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(Message 1977159)
Posted 26 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: I'd be very interested to see your source/sources, M5WJF. I had a look myself, but struggled a bit to find one that hadn't been debunked somehow or other... or even utterly :/ You obviously haven't been looking hard enough, I'm not here to prove what I say to you, and neither is Sirius, do you expect other people to do your research and answer on your behalf? Even a reference to that bit of the Lisbon Treaty would be helpful (that bit that mentions 2020 and 2022 in particular) because I haven't been able to find that either I suggest you keep looking, and take off the rose tinted spectacles whilst you do it, whilst you're at it, look up the terms of that EU Partnership Agreement Zambia has with the EU, they will completely empty your EEZ of all marine life for the pittance they offer your Government, your Coastal Communities will catch nothing, you have yet to see the size of the factory ships they will send to do this. Ask people in other African Coastal States what has happened to them. Something positive I did find though, if it helps at all, is the majority voting thing (as far as I've been able to ascertain), would apply to every proposed amendment and clause that might pass into EU law at some point in the future... if they're not unanimously accepted by all member states, they simply won't be adopted. I think you'll find that no country can have the veto you mention after Qualified Majority Voting is in place, all existing vetoes will be repealed. I doubt knowing that would have made much difference to those who didn't when it came time to vote though. Not with all the appealing packaging it came in. What appealing packaging? I've yet to have anyone explain what is so appealing about being ruled from abroad. You'll want to protect those sources, I know ;) And as spokesperson for your people, it's perfectly understandable, M5. I do hope you don't mind me calling you that, it's just your full name is quite hard to pronounce... I don't need to protect anyone, its all over Social Media, and even the heavily D-Notice Censored Mainstream Media here now, indeed I'm merely going to celebrate our Independence Day at 11pm on 29th March. Spokesperson? What are you on about? Just my opinion, and I'm reasonably certain you're aware of that, and I am fairly sure I wouldn't be able to pronounce your name either. Have a happy one. |
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(Message 1976865)
Posted 25 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: And also a strange answer from the Royal Navy that once send a Task Force to the South Atlantic in less than a week when the nation called on it to do so. There's a long established principle that the UK Government uses for offensive sea operations, we use STUFT, like we did in the Falklands Conflict, STUFT = Ships Taken Up From Trade. Basically the UK Government Compulsory purchases existing shipping, they become part of HM Merchant Navy , fly the Red Ensign, and get fitted out quickly with weaponry, that's why we had a fleet of 75 ships for the South Atlantic in 1982. Indeed, this bull about struggling with medicines is particularly asinine, if the Royal Navy can divert a small Aircraft Carrier to pick up British holiday makers and their vehicles from France one Summer, which were stranded due to a French Trade Dispute, all within five days notice, then we can knock the problem of a cargo of medicine on the head with a new QE Class Aircraft Carrier, the same carriers we'd have been forced to hand over to EU Military Control in 2022, having spent £6 Billion building them. No the EU is your worse nightmare, best wake up. |
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(Message 1976861)
Posted 25 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: If those referendums had been carried out in the UK, then half of the reasons some people used to vote BREXIT would have already been dealt with. Quite a lot of those that voted in 1972 have said they voted for a common market not the EU. That's the problem right there, there wasn't a vote in 1972, the European Communities Act was forced through by a Tory Commons Majority, and joining the EEC was legislated to happen on 1st January 1973, no-one had a say. By the Labour Party Conference in April 1975, the Labour Party voted against Membership of the EEC, this forced the Tory Government to rush through a Public Referendum within four months, yet the Electoral Commission has stated in 2018 that such a Referendum, like the one in 2016, would take 12 months to organise and take place. The same Project Fear arguments were used in 1975 by the Tories as were used in 2016, the Prime Minister Lied in 1975 about the future loss of Sovereignty to both the EEC and later EU, he admitted this a number of years later, he knew what he'd signed us all up to in 1972. In 1975 I was 10 years old, ineligible to vote, yet no-one complained about old people ruining the futures of young people, that is a feature of the snowflake generation we have today since they lost in 2016. In 2016 the Prime Minister lied again along with every major institution, that staying in the EU was best for Britain, we even had the threat of World War 3 and the sky falling in, nobody believed them, we voted to Leave, by a small majority, but a majority of over 1.4 million people. People started this nonsense about a 2nd vote, that we didn't know how good the EU really was, but they never say in what way, BUT neither side said what the Lisbon Treaty would do in 2020 and 2022, when clauses became Laws, we'd be forced to cede control of everything to the EU, our military, taxation, foreign policy, border control, trade, our veto on EU Commission (unelected) enacted Laws gone, direct EU Control, imposition of the Euro as our National Currency, our EU Parliamentary voting influence reduced from 8% to 3.5%, our Membership Contribution to the EU Budget significantly increased by the order of Billions a year, and if we tried to Leave the EU we'd have to have EU Permission by Majority voting of the other 27 Member States. No, they all failed to tell us about that. It's a no Brainer we Leave, retain control of everything, including our vast EEZ (the EU take more than 80% of our Fish, and our Fishing Fleets have been decimated, along with coastal communities since 1975), pay them nothing, and live by our own Laws, even our news is censored by UK Government D-Notices, we get nothing about the Yellow Vests Protests all across the EU on our Mainstream Media, the BBC and Channel 4 are both owned by the UK Government anyway. The only truths we see are on Social Media these days, as nothing but nothing can undermine the EU Project and trying to get us all to accept Staying in the EU. Lets face it, if we leave we prosper, the EU wouldn't use our money to pay for UK based Manufacturing Companies to be relocated to Eastern or Southern Europe, yes that's right as a Net Contributor in the Billions, the EU uses that money to asset strip the UK, UK Tax Payers are paying to be put out of work, they have been doing this for more than 20 years. If we leave the EU would collapse, other member countries would see our booming economy and want to leave too, for example in the first year we'd be £137 Billion better of in GDP, we'd not pay the £39 Billion that the UK Government has no legal reason to pay the EU, and our independent economists (trashed by our own Government BTW) predict within the first five year period we'd be £640 Billion better off, and the EU would be £500 Billion worse off, so you just know that when a politicians lips are moving they are lying. No Deal and leaving on WTO Rules is the best outcome for the UK, 60+% of our Trade is on WTO, only 7% of the UK companies trades with the EU, big global companies, with lots of influence in the UK Government, these are the vested interests ranged against democracy. This is why it's such a big deal here, this is our Independence Day, 'No Taxation without Representation', remember we'll have no-one in the EU Parliament after March. If we don't leave at 11pm on 29th March 2019, expect riots on British Streets, there will be wholesale civil unrest, and the Government D-Notices will not be able to hide it. |
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(Message 1976858)
Posted 25 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: Wouldn't have happened in the UK, handguns banned since 27th February & 27th November 1997 , use of guns for self protection banned since 17th October 1946, no Good Reason under the Firearms Act 1968 for possession of a firearm in a Bowling Alley, Uber Taxi, Public Street, or a Shopping Centre. Five Years Mandatory Prison. Police Interviews in the applicants home for a Firearms Certificate would include the mandatory fitment of a Home Office Approved Gun Cabinet to stop Six Year Old children from gaining possession of firearms and ammunition to take to a Children's Nursery. The same Interview process would also identify Mental Illness, through records obtained from a General Practitioner, NHS Mental Health Services, or from family members and partners. The NHS is FREE, so there is no financial reason for an individual to not be treated for a mental illness, and have this identified through school, social services, or via a General Practitioner a long time ago. Yeah, I own firearms and shotguns for sport and pest control, and I'm happy the system is so strict, I don't walk about paranoid that someone is going to attack me, rob me, and kill me. Walking a couple of miles at night here after an evening out is not dangerous, no-one is 'packing'. Yes its a rural town I live in, not a City, where the risk might be higher, or Londonistan where knife attacks are a result of uncontrolled immigration, so there are problems here, I don't deny that, but all of the situations described, as just not happening here. |
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(Message 1975353)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: There's been some interesting comments, but maybe some are coloured with a degree of ignorance and misinformation. I have not met anyone that wants anything other than to leave on WTO Rules, Corbyn and his front bench of clowns is unelectable, and the Tories are riddled with people with hands up the backs of MPs trying to protect the vested interests of less than 4% of businesses at the undermining of democracy. It really is a pigs ear, and if democracy is undermined, expect civil unrest on a very large scale. |
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(Message 1975351)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: NO DEAL You think its not been happening since we joined in 1973? The EU calls the UK 'Treasure Island', has done for decades. |
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(Message 1975350)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: There were 432 no votes and 202 yes votes. A historically large defeat: Never before has a British government lost so much in a parliamentary voting. Good precedent, maybe Treason May will hand in her notice now. |
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(Message 1975349)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: enjoy no deal, your lot has earned it At least with no deal we're not parting with £39 Billion for no reason what so ever. |
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(Message 1975348)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: If you like to see what the polls say, with lots of charts and graphs then How voters want Brexit to be sorted out. I'd agree with that. |
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(Message 1975347)
Posted 16 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: A much better analogy is Brexit is shooting at the chains keeping us in solitary confinement, and the EU supplies the chains, and we pay for them. |
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(Message 1973526)
Posted 5 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: Not seen anything on here about Brexit, any reason why this is? |
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(Message 1973507)
Posted 5 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: Nice spot, I think mine is worth £275k, but I have a mortgage for about £20k left to pay, I'm hoping for CANZUK to be implemented after BREXIT, as I want to emigrate/retire to the Gold Coast in Australia, since I have family and friends there. |
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(Message 1973505)
Posted 5 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: I did a test this summer - 1,300 miles in a week from Yorkshire to Dublin via Stranraer, ferry to Belfast, Stroke City (Derry/Londonderry) and the wild west coast of Ireland. The car recorded 65 mpg overall, with the first fill-up after 675 miles. That's a good test, I recently got a free car, a 2000 Audi S3 Quattro petrol 6-speed manual, 210 bhp, although it has an induction kit so it might have more horses, but probably does no better than 30mpg, its supposed to do 148 mph, but I think I'm changing the rear transmission oil and timing belt before I do anything silly, say a trackday, but you can do 79 mph on a motorway/dual carriageway, or 68 mph on normal 60 mph roads without prosecution. They have to give you education at the roadside above those speeds, but not until you go 87 mph (70 mph), and 76 mph (60 mph) should you expect a Summons to Court, unless you're driving like a crazy person. http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf See Section 9.6 Enforcement Guidance |
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(Message 1973496)
Posted 5 Jan 2019 by ![]() Post: As I still use DOS, 95OSR2.1, 98, 98SE, and XP SP3, and have plans to run 1.04, 286, and 3.11, I don't see what the problem is; none of my OSes before 98 are on the Tinterweb using a browser, but they are connected to the net via Packet BBS, and the World via Amateur Radio. |
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(Message 1971049)
Posted 19 Dec 2018 by ![]() Post: Well, if that's what they want to charge us for a visit, still cheaper than the Tax Burden of £39 Billion on 65 million Brits (£600 a head) anyway. |
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(Message 1950498)
Posted 18 Aug 2018 by ![]() Post: Yup! And why are those defenses needed? I'm not jealous mate. Thanks for the explanation of moderator ownership earlier, however, most of that dealt with permission to purchase. I already own these for every rifle (except a .22lr Target Rifle), if a US Citizen visits the UK with their declared Firearms, they have to apply for a Permit, at least six weeks in advance. although certain Firearms are prohibited (a Moderator used on a Firearm is itself a Firearm under British Law), the Police will determine whether a particular Firearm is allowed into the UK. You have to declare any criminal convictions, (they will be checking with your FBI anyway), but if you're found to be lying or fail to mention anything in your application about anything then you will likely be refused entry into the UK, let alone be allowed to bring in any Firearms. Possession of Firearms is a privilege here, and certain convictions, criminal history, or your mental health conditions and history can result in a refusal of an application for possession here by a UK Citizen, and as you will be subject to British Law, if you meet the criteria as a risk to Public Safety, your Permit will be refused. Under a Permit you may possess your own Firearms in the UK, but you will not be allowed to purchase any whilst here, you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase ammunition allowed under Section 1 of the Firearms Act. Under a Shotgun Permit (separately applied for and issued), you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase Shotguns whilst here, in addition you may bring with you, acquire, or purchase ammunition allowed under Section 2 of the Firearms Act, however, you cannot borrow a Shotgun for up to 72 hours as is possible under a Shotgun Certificate. Be sure to read up on the allowed ammunition types here, BEFORE bringing them. You require a UK Resident to act as a Sponsor for your Permit within the Police area you are staying, they are required to submit your application for a Permit to the Police. A Permit costs £20 per person, or no more than £100 to cover a Group of up to 20 people., and can last a year, but the Police might restrict the period that the Permit covers. There's other rules, but those are the main one's. So, £20 for a Permit, and if you already own a Moderator (Silencer), which you will have to declare as a Firearm, there's no charge, or tax. |
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(Message 1949963)
Posted 15 Aug 2018 by ![]() Post: @JE, perhaps there is no size limit anymore, California's restriction was struck down Federally. In the UK you need to show a Police Issued Firearms or Shotgun Certificate to buy smokeless powders for reloading, and can buy/possess up to 15Kg at a time. If you want to buy Black Powder, then you need a separate Police Issued Explosives Licence. Which might make it a little more difficult to obtain. |
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(Message 1949941)
Posted 15 Aug 2018 by ![]() Post: (7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code) Mmm...so if I visited the US and brought any of my firearms, I'd not be able to bring the moderators? Seems pretty restrictive. |
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(Message 1946098)
Posted 24 Jul 2018 by ![]() Post: Bullets & Bills: The cost of getting shot in America This just doesn't happen in a developed society anywhere else on the planet. Certainly not in the UK, nobody gets to play drug lord with AK47s on the street, and nobody pays for medical bills, and nobody is prevented, by Law, from applying for a job with a disability. Our culture is not based on owning a gun, our Gun Laws make possession of a gun illegally very difficult, our Gun Laws are severe with mandatory sentencing. Since 1948, our National Health Service has cared for everyone, free, and for as long as you live, paid for out of general taxation. Our Disability Discrimination Laws prevent people from being left jobless, they can still earn money, and pay taxes, and contribute to society like everyone else. Yet we still manage to pay more than 2% into our NATO Commitment, with a planned increase towards 3% long before Trump started having ago at those members of NATO that fail in their commitment. So why do Americans put up with such a culture, healthcare system, and inequality? You guys have to sort this out, if not only to stop Americans suffering and struggling, but to stop the embarrassment you must feel when you learn how much better a person's Human Rights are protected in developed societies elsewhere in the World. Just because we regard Guns as sporting equipment, or tools for land management, and we have socialised Healthcare, and Laws to protect the weak and vulnerable, does not mean we're a bunch of weak communists (although I suspect Jeremy Corbyn is a Commie), it means we don't live in fear of being shot, crippled both physically and financially, or discriminated and ignored due to disability and racial profile. In short, we have a caring society, based on Law, not a selfish one, reliant on goodwill, publicity, ans crowd funding. |
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(Message 1944762)
Posted 16 Jul 2018 by ![]() Post: There will be no response from me to anything posted by Vadim in the future. Then we have something in common. |
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