81) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A point to ponder or things to make you go HMMMM (Message 60646) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: > Faster than light communications... in Star Trek its called SubSpace > communications. Considering many things that Star Trek envisioned have been > created I think its only a matter of time. > > Star Trek (original series) Communicator = Nextel flip phone. > Lets just hope the Borg isn't one of them... Then again, some would say Microsoft :D

82) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60635) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: Yeah, saw that... Lucky bastages, I envy them now :D I should have just been allowed to continue slipping in...that I got so close :(

83) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60631) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: hehe, I wouldn't be so impatient if I didn't ALMOST have an account created though. Being that close... /me not a person that can almost have something, and then have it taken away, without...well everyone used to say I can be a very determined individual :D Good thing, is it can work the same way with projects, jobs, etc If I'm too close to completing something, I'm less apt to walk away and come back, then when there's a lot left to do...

84) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Do you guys take part in other projects ? (Message 60625) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: > > > A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be > able > > to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research > they > > would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to > be > > making money from a not-for-profit project. > > This I don't mind at all. If the data is open to all then there is less chance > of development being stunted or held back for profits sake. > I get your concern... Though if it's available to all, progress wouldn't be stunted, as some claim the oil companies are responsible for buying out/keeping alternative sources of power off the market. Anyhow, as long as companies can't come back latter and lay exclusive claim to certain portions of data, not really concerned. Also, as the data is being crunched through (I gather) a university using certain research funding, and they might publish it themself...how much of a chance would they have to do this? Oh, one thing I would have to add on the business model though...Linux (and open source development) has probably effected Microsoft more then they would have liked. Competing with free, can also be, well... Especially in the business space, some of the developments I've heard - Oracle has made Linux it's officially supported platform for Oracle server. One can of course load it on other systems still, but as to support... - Cisco has announced that it won't be porting all it's networking tools to Windows any longer - Intel, IBM, and other corporate heavy weights on the hardware side of things are throwing some support Linux's way - Liscensing 6.0 (and it's terms) have many corps dis-pleased, who also being a "for profit company" think about their bottom line when it comes to liscensing charges... s'pose I should get back on topic though :D

85) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60617) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: Was posted as open, and was though... But yeah, I signed up as a test user... Seriously though, I don't mind beta tests and what not (see below) and the irony of all is I don't have a Mac and can't get Linux to load on this machine (have tried). /me thinks Linux doesn't like my nForce 1 chipset, and now with the nForce 2 (also Athlon 32) and nForce 3 (nForce 64) chipsets out...that is how things will be. For that reason, deleted Linux partition till I have an A64. Is part and parcel to being an adopter of new tech during it's first gen...

86) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60610) Posted 5 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: I think I was most unluky of all...to have almost got in, thought it was for real...and then get it closed just as I went to hit the submit button after typing my info. That was worse then either - it didn't open and trick me as such - everyone who got that far was just allowed to finish account creation argh, and double argh Isn't looking like today now however :(

87) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A point to ponder or things to make you go HMMMM (Message 60498) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: > > People look, partially due to curiosity, partially because space is the > next > > frontier, and partially because we want to know. Should mankind find > > evidence, I seriously doubt humanities curiosity would be satisfied, but > > rather I suspect it would be intensified. People's drive to explore > space > > (and perhaps to try to "get there one day") would itself, I very much > suspect > > be intensified as well. > > > > I have no doubt that should we be successful in finding firstly a signal from > an intelligent source and secondly on the outside chance that we may be able > to communicate with that source, humanities curiosity would be intensified to > such a degree that half would be absolutely delighted and embrace it with open > arms. While they other would flee in terror of something they fail to > understand or even want to (I won't mention religious zealots...:-)) > > Time at Cas's Place: Tue 04 January 2005, 20:43:43 (GMT Standard Time) > > Cheers, Cas. > True, but also consider what we've seen over the past 40 odd years since John F. Kennedy set as a goal, man landing on the moon. Much of the technology that went into space exploration has also benefited other areas of technological development, and more so the pace of technological development has picked up. Going from one generation CPU we have available to us (and I'm just talking PC processors here, not some of the higher end RISC processors) sees development that 30 years ago peeps wouldn't have expected. Technological development certainly hasn't exactly followed in a linear fasion (heck from the industrial revolution to present). There would be challenges no doubt, and time/space would be among the biggest. I do see such an intensity in man's curiosity and desire to reach out to find whatever is out there however, could hit a point where we could possibly see the rate of development also increase...as now they're would be a goal, an objective of something to reach for, and an inner drive/determination to reach that goal. Again one could bring up when Kennedy set as goal "man will land on the moon".

88) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A point to ponder or things to make you go HMMMM (Message 60490) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: What's more, and keeping that in mind, the push to explore space wouldn't necessarily subside; and as the old saying goes "necessity is the mother of invention". In terms of discovering extra-solar planets, and also given the finding of what could be described as "aliens on Earth" at the heat vents at the bottom of the ocean floor, and else where...the field of astro-biology has been formed. They're also looking, through the use of spectography on whether they could find elements that could be indicators of life (from an extra-solar atmosphere). Would have too look the article back up again. People look, partially due to curiosity, partially because space is the next frontier, and partially because we want to know. Should mankind find evidence, I seriously doubt humanities curiosity would be satisfied, but rather I suspect it would be intensified. People's drive to explore space (and perhaps to try to "get there one day") would itself, I very much suspect be intensified as well.

89) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A point to ponder or things to make you go HMMMM (Message 60480) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: I have thought this myself...and the answer is we'd be looking for beings with an equivalent level of technology, or so it the responce I've gotten from some people in the past. Of course, not all planets would have aliens more advanced or less advanced then us. Logic would dictate that we'd be somewhere in the middle, with both santient species which are more advanced then us, less advanced then us, and those at an equivalent level of tech... Those experiencing a stone age, bronze age, or equivalent type civilization wouldn't have yet discovered radio waves and couldn't communicate. Those more advanced, all I could say is this: If I were a member of a race already posessing space travel capability (between solar systems or intergalactic well within in the course of a single life time) I wouldn't try to communicate by radio. Reason is, I'd want a conversation, not a message that might arrive 1 million years in the future (assuming a million light years away of course). By the time they'd reply, what human would even know what message would have been made 2 million years ago (accounting for the time it would take a reply to be returned as well). Anything, multi-dimentional communication (aka sending the signal through a dimention where time and space isn't the same as here), create a worm hole beam the message through, anything (and yes it would all be theoretical to us now, at best) would most likely render the message undetectable to our level of tech. Radio works well on a planet, but to communicate accross interstellar space? I wouldn't use it if I could find a better means. But another planet of equivallent tech could use radio (much as we are) is I guess part of the thinking, and if we could pick it up... That doesn't necessarily mean they'd be trying to use it to hold a conversation with us, or some other distant planet...

90) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Joke of the Day (Message 60476) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: BTW, the actual vid is in English though... It used a Windows Media Player plugin... Just the host page the vid loads off of is a foreign language...

91) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cafe SETI/ Come in and have some Coffee.. (Message 60471) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: Oh, if we were to go Stargate, forget a zat... Perhaps an Asgard (sp?) warship, or one of em things the ancients would have used...

92) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cafe SETI/ Come in and have some Coffee.. (Message 60467) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: > paraphrasing ARLO GUTHRIE...you can get anything you want at the seti > cafe...the rhyme is a bit off...but hey...you work with the name you are > given. > Would that include info on one of Zo'or's rather nepharious plans to bio-engineer humanity for their war against the Jaridians? Sorry, have been re-watching Earth Final Conflict of late...albeit in that case I s'pose it'd be the "Flat Planet Cafe"

93) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Joke of the Day (Message 60459) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: Here's something wrt the Simpsons http://www.manzonderkop.be/Post/?P_ID=7165 It's an interview with some of the voice actors. BTW, it's funny yes, but not necessarily dial up user friendly as it's a vid. As the site is in a language I don't recognize (vid is in English), don't have more details on that.

94) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60454) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: If you really wanted a new/upgraded machine there would be several ways...though recovering it after would be a bit tricky and there'd be a matter of conscience of course. One involves a can of canned air, turned upside down as one sprays/erm dusts the thing out. And yes, I should probably put a disclaimer "in no way do I advocate this sorta action with the work supplied comp, etc, etc..."

95) Message boards : Number crunching : tech news (Message 60450) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: I would gather that's what "pending credit" is supposed to be about (well perhaps not the number of units) but it's been disabled since I left classic. Perhaps someone else can ellaborate. I did notice a number of pending with 3 results of 3 sent (probably about 15 or 20, or so), albeit I did get some additional credit this morning.

96) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60445) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: > o sheesh, ME beta?? *shudder* as if the released version weren't total > crap. > > i did RC2 for win2k, it was fine, other than explorer.exe crashing 5 times a > day... > > yeah, i'm not afraid to beta either, i like the sound of einstein (will still > run lots of SETI too though) > OMG, let me tell you, winME in it's beta, release candidate status... I had it on my comp for awhile to test it, but mostly used win2k The thing was so bad the MSDN subscribers were saying they wouldn't use this thing even though they got the CDs for free... Mind you, many MSDN subscribers (probably most) are third party developers of Windows software. When the devs start calling the thing a PoS and won't use it for "free", that says something... That was largely the consensus then in the MSDN subscriber news groups... I had a few other probs with win2k RC One dealt with demoting from a PDC and having the partition get crapped up. One dealt with upgrading from beta 3 to RC1, but largely comes with the territory. Nothing a format couldn't handle...

97) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60440) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: hehe, personally I wouldn't care if there were a few glitches (though almost getting something done and being stopped so short...) I was a beta tester for Microsoft, MSDN subscriber actually. And after having had Windows Millenium Edition pre-release, umm how should I put this :D (Computer programming/engineering is one of my majors at uni, the other comp networking...hence I was able to get a subscrip student discounted years ago...)

98) Message boards : Number crunching : tech news (Message 60432) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: thx for the update...

99) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60427) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: As in today, tomarrow? Ugh, I'm serious...I got right to the submit button on that create account thing before it was disabled again... The forums over there shows everything going OK on the recent posts and with the IP server change, new server, etc, but no word otherwise...

100) Message boards : Number crunching : Einstein@home Account Creation has been enabled (Message 60423) Posted 4 Jan 2005 by Nuadormrac Post: Yeah, read that last week (was hitting their page daily for news updates). Why I thought it was for real this time :(

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