Posts by Mburggraf

1) Questions and Answers : Windows : URL of other Projects? (Message 12922)
Posted 28 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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I like Berkely (birthplace of 'free speech' and the freedom of information movement), but don't like the team handling this project.

I'm sure it will get better 'soon'... but really have lost interest.

I'm going back to 'Folding' unless there is another steller type project that DOESN"T require my constant attention and 'retry, retry, retry, retry' input to insure WU availabilty.

Afraid to say I'm no longer interested in this (obviously ALIEN) attempt to guage the LIMITS of human patience, tolerance, and what Humans consider an 'acceptable amount of information'.

'They' recommend we have alternate projects in case WUs become unavailable, but I can't find a link anywhere except 'predicter'... which also appears to have multiple 'beta-test' type problems.
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : NOW what's wrong with BOINC....? (Message 12880)
Posted 27 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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Are you, by any chance, on a network?


> Any ideas?
> <p>Rick A. - BOINC not getting results....</p>
> <img> src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=827&trans=off">
>
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to get work units (Message 12099)
Posted 24 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> Everyone needs to calm down. SETI is a group of people who have a very
> limited budget, and resources.

So where do I send a donation? If everyone sends a buck or two, then 'Budget' shouldn't be a problem.

Please post a 'donation'link.

We're very giving people... a buck or two won't hurt any of us.

> If they had a lot of money and resources they
> wouldn't need to utilitize distributed processing in the first place.

Non-sequiter... and an illuminating comment.

The computer power being offered is not available ANYWHERE on this planet.

Therefore, the idea that 'they' are ONLY doing this because they can't afford to purchase a computer with the same computational power of 50,000 P4 2.8Ghz computers is aburd...

> If you read the web site they have a very good explanation of what is going
> on,

True, the information is a little bit more available than before... but the information OFFERED still ain't equell to what is the HUGE amount of computational power being offered for FREE!

And just for Logics sake... and to reiterate my position... there is no mention of a BUDGETARY shortfall on the information page.

TELL us you need $100,000... and you'll GET a $100,000!

> so chill out.

So go to hell.
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to get work units (Message 12052)
Posted 24 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> > If you're interested in donating your computer time... this particular
> project
> > is NOT the place.
>
> If you BELIEVE in the project, it is worth to have the patience.

Of course! Personally, I BELIEVE the truth is 'out there'.

But I'm beginning to BELIEVE that this project was designed to test the limits of human patience.

> Greetings from Belgium.

Greetings from the bowels of Texas.
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to get work units (Message 12036)
Posted 24 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> There is no problem on your side and you will need some patience.

Correction: "You will need MEGA patience, understanding, and gullibility!"

If you're interested in donating your computer time... this particular project is NOT the place.

If you're interested in LEARNING and HELPING to increase knowledge in the area of TESTING the LIMITS of HUMAN compasion, short-sightedness, and tolerance for ERROR... then this IS the place!

But be forewarned... this project is run by ALIENS!

(It's the ONLY explanation that makes any sense!)
6) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC 3.20 ? (Message 7539)
Posted 14 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> Yes you can use 3.20 to run S@H. It was handed to the Alpha testers to use
> for all projects late last week.
>
> <a> href="http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&userid=9915">

Warning Will Robinson!

NEVER download a version of x.0 or x.x0!!!
7) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC 3.20 ? (Message 7537)
Posted 14 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> Yes you can use 3.20 to run S@H. It was handed to the Alpha testers to use
> for all projects late last week.
>
> <a> href="http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&userid=9915">

Hee, hee!

Alpha Testers!
8) Questions and Answers : Getting started : BOINC 3.20 ? (Message 7536)
Posted 14 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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Don't run with 3.2 yet!
"Warning Will Robinson!"

Not until they fix some fundamental problems.
"Warning Will Robinson!"

If what you've got works, stick with it.
"Warning Will Robinson!"

9) Questions and Answers : Windows : Tried to download WU - not found on server error message (Message 7533)
Posted 14 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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Duh... ya think?!?

I think MOST of us are posting to alert 'those in charge' of problems on THEIR end... since there doesn't appear to be any way to report problems directly.

(Oh, yeah... all problems were taken care of in the Beta release).

:(
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : File not found on server (Message 7483)
Posted 14 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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The worst problem I've encountered with BOINC is not keeping us updated with information. To read the 'update' page, you'd think things have been going rather smoothly since June 22, with only an occasional downtime for a 'few hours'.

Hope SETI finds that ETI... they could sure use some help with this extensively tested Beta.

Please add the following to the list of problems:


SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:09 - Started download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.45
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:09 - Started download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.170
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:18 - Temporarily failed download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.45
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:18 - Giving up on download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.45: file was not found on server
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:18 - Started download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.222
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:18 - Unrecoverable error for result 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.45_1 (file transfer error: couldn't get input files:
04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.45: file was not found on server)
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:18 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:19 - Temporarily failed download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.170
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:19 - Giving up on download of 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.170: file was not found on server
SETI@home - 2004-07-13 20:30:19 - Unrecoverable error for result 04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.170_2 (file transfer error: couldn't get input files:
04ja04aa.7402.23585.54816.170: file was not found on server)
--- - 2004-07-13 20:31:28 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work

Etc. etc.
11) Questions and Answers : Getting started : 13.54 Billion Years Later (Message 3316)
Posted 2 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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13.54 Billion Years Later we STILL can't get the system administrator to give us honest answers about what is REALLY going on... or what the fate of our efforts mean...

:(
:(
:(
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : Parse Error (Message 2924)
Posted 1 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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Can't view pending credit.

I could, before the upgrade.

Details:

Parse error: parse error in /disks/koloth/raid5_b/users/boincadm/projects/sah/html/user/pending.php on line 11
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to update (Message 2923)
Posted 1 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> There are problems with the server. Nobody can download WU's or upload results
> for the moment.
> I would advice to shut down the GUI in order not to overload the servers
> unnecessary.
> You may try starting the GUI again in a couple of hours.

LOL!

"in a couple of hours", "Moment", "Soon", "Shortly", "Just Now", "Earlier".

Ya'll have been saying that for a week!

The main page doesn't tell us squat. In fact, I'm now getting the message "Project is down".
:(
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : No schuedulers responded (Message 2918)
Posted 1 Jul 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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Well, consider yourself quite lucky that it's only been 2 hours.

I've had this problem for several days.
15) Questions and Answers : Getting started : How long does it take for pending units to be approved? (Message 2192)
Posted 26 Jun 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/forum_thread.php?id=413

SO THE ANSWER IS 413?

Great answer... what does it mean?!?

What it REALLY MEANS IS "Thanks for the answer. I would like to point out that this is contary to what is written on http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/intro_user.php:

This is a classic example of "If you don't know... then I ain't gonna tell you till you beg... cuz I don't really know either" mentality.

Look, all we want to do is help ya'll.

But you're forcing us to learn a whole new set of 'rules', languages, etc.

What was the Beta for... didn't you learn anything?!?

Latest crap from 'the client'...

SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:17:57 - Requesting 317656 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:17:57 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:18:02 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:18:02 - Message from server: No work available
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:18:02 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:18:02 - Deferring communication with project for 17 minutes and 22 seconds
--- - 2004-06-25 18:35:25 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:25 - Requesting 318116 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:25 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:31 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:31 - Message from server: No work available
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:31 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:35:31 - Deferring communication with project for 7 minutes and 13 seconds
--- - 2004-06-25 18:42:45 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:45 - Requesting 318279 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:45 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:51 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:51 - Message from server: Not sending work - last RPC too recent: 439 sec
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:51 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:42:51 - Deferring communication with project for 13 minutes and 18 seconds
--- - 2004-06-25 18:56:10 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:56:10 - Requesting 318322 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:56:10 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:56:36 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:56:36 - No schedulers responded
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 18:56:36 - Deferring communication with project for 3 hours, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds
SETI@home - 2004-06-25 19:56:36 - Deferring communication with project for 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds


1. Stupid server-clinet relationship... RPC this, RPC that. My stupid client is wasting MY TIME and BANDWIDTH asking for crap that will be denied because 'it's too soon'. It wastes the SERVERS TIME TOO!

It's also causing us a lot of needless anxiety because we DO want to help, but can't get work units to do the crunching.

Didn't you guys check ANYTHING before launching this project?!

2. Look at the last two lines... I've got TWO DAYS WORTH of addition and subtraction errors... but this is the most sad.

3. Why doesn't the client even save my preferences locally?!? If I tell the thing to operate ALL THE TIME and DON'T CONNECT... then I MEAN IT!!! When I re-boot it goes back to "I'll do what I want when I want" mode.

I'm just about ready to go back to 'folding'.

16) Questions and Answers : Windows : Boinc Disappears but still runs!??! (Message 2159)
Posted 25 Jun 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> Looks like the BOINC client is crashing but its child process (the seti@home
> client) is somehow surviving.

Correct! And each time he starts BOINC a NEW child process will start. (I had 5 of them running...)

Check the STDERR.txt file... you will see that BOINC is causing an invalid exception error... and shutting itself down. It's probably writing somewhere that isn't allowed. I have the same problem at work.
17) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Why am I getting the "no work avalible" message? (Message 1500)
Posted 24 Jun 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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> The lines above the no work availble message give an indication of why no work
> is available. The project was down for maintenance for a while this
> afternoon, and you may have tried to connect during the outage.
> jm7

Um, you mean it's been down since 8am CST... and is still down.

And on my home computer it does not mention anything about the Project being down.

--- - 2004-06-24 18:16:39 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:39 - Requesting 339291 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:39 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:44 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:44 - Message from server: No work available
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:44 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:16:44 - Deferring communication with project for 4 minutes and 56 seconds
--- - 2004-06-24 18:21:41 - Cache low-water mark hit; requesting more work
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:41 - Requesting 339477 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:41 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:45 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:45 - Message from server: Not sending work - last RPC too recent: 302 sec
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:45 - No work from project
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 18:21:45 - Deferring communication with project for 15 minutes and 17 seconds

And it's been doing this at my work computer for 11 hours now.
:(
18) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Data Server Status? (Message 1459)
Posted 24 Jun 2004 by Profile Mburggraf
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I can't download any work units.

Server message:
SETI@home - 2004-06-24 17:21:41 - Message from server: No work available

On another computer it says the server is down for maintenance... and that no work is available.

I've been all over this site and can't find the DATA SERVER STATUS PAGE.

Help?





 
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