Posts by Bob Bihari
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Welcome to the 7 year club
(Message 528512)
Posted 9 Mar 2007 by  Bob Bihari
Post: Officially Registered 21 May 1999, but actually joined in March...had a problem with my original registration. .....interesting couple of years. |
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Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 308185)
Posted 17 May 2006 by Bob Bihari
Post: I'll wait until I can no longer get 4.18 work, and then I'll be gone. Well, when the Admin shows you the door, I guess it's time to leave...... It really shows how the people running this project feel about the folks who are VOLUNTEERING to do work for them.... The last Seven Years have been a real slice.... C Ya. |
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Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 306359)
Posted 15 May 2006 by Bob Bihari
Post: Well, It's fascinating reading all the justifications being espoused by folks about how this new credit system is "really just the same because everyone is in the same boat" and various formulae and convoluted logic to justify how things "really aren't any different..." (if you have a quart of pineapples and exchange them for a stack of brass slugs....Yada Yada......) My Seti Stable is pretty small in comparison to many, but I just got my electric bill on Saturday..... my power usage for my home systems and associated hardware (on a separate circuit) was over $230 for the month.....and this doesn't include the strain on my air conditioning (this is Florida, and it's getting hotter by the day). I know the standard response will be "well, nobody asked you to do this.....etc etc" ....well ,you're right. It's just a hobby. I guess I'm competitive by nature, but without the competition and camaraderie of belonging to a competitive team, it has no appeal to me. Obviously, your mileage may differ. I figure with what I can get by auctioning off some systems, what I typically spend on new/upgrading crunchers, monthly electric/air-conditioning bills, (let alone going deaf from listening to fan noise)etc, I can buy myself another Harley, or a new car. A NICE new car...... Sounds like a no-Brainer. |
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Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 304178)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Bob Bihari
Post: Fairness, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. It will be fair to some and not to others. The fear I have is that there may be a mass exodus of people away from Seti. Many people crunch solely to help the science (and some claim to do so), but many more crunch for the competition and the bragging rights and they will be the ones who will leave when everybody starts getting the same credit regardless of the time spent and CPU used. The current enhanced credit system will remove the incentive to update to faster machines which coupled with people leaving the project is ultimately hurting the project. IMHO, the project should be setup to attract people, not run them off. Sorry....just had to add a bit more (I'm on a roll....) While I admire the hard work and the dedication of the developers in this community, there seems to be a severe dis-connect in regards to your audience (sounds like the Politicians in Wash DC: see .Sig). The people you rely on to do your crunching are VOLUNTEERS who donate their resources to your project....different things motivate different people.....and I'm afraid there seem to be some "cliques" that are driving the debate; I see too many posts from people that treat this project as if it were their own private club, and they set the standards. You really can't afford to alienate your "workforce".... I normally just lurk and don't post....but this has finally gotten to me. OK.....I feel better now..... rm -r /Dev/Rant/ |
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Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 304142)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Bob Bihari
Post: Fairness, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. It will be fair to some and not to others. The fear I have is that there may be a mass exodus of people away from Seti. Many people crunch solely to help the science (and some claim to do so), but many more crunch for the competition and the bragging rights and they will be the ones who will leave when everybody starts getting the same credit regardless of the time spent and CPU used. The current enhanced credit system will remove the incentive to update to faster machines which coupled with people leaving the project is ultimately hurting the project. IMHO, the project should be setup to attract people, not run them off. Hear Hear!!! I agree 100%. Many of us nut-cases out here have invested in newer/faster systems, or upgraded our memory/processors/etc in order to gain a little more RAC (I know I have). The underlying science is a wonderful goal, however, to MANY of us, if you take the competitive spirit out of it.....you'll loose us. I was planning on adding a couple of 940 Ds to my stable to bump my RAC up....but now, I've lost the incentive to do so......I don't really have a need for more than 5 computers to do what I do....and three of the ones I'm running now are strictly SETI crunchers. I've been at this game almost since day one, but I can save a lot of Time/$$$/electricity and aggravation by just shutting them down. |
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Hints, cheats, and advice for New users.
(Message 304132)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Bob Bihari
Post: ......and you can abort them ... if you wish ... Well...so much for science..... Sorry....but I think you missed the purpose of this entire project..... JMHO |
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