Do you really believe that with all the best lawyers that large corporations and wealthy businessmen and staunch conservative Republicans been able to hire, not one person or business sought to declare it unconstitutional if that were even remotely possible? Do you really believe that in close to 100 years, nobody has stumbled onto these arguments until now?

No. The reason it hasn't been challenged in close to 100 years, is because the best legal advice in the country has often informed the ambitious that such a challenge could not succeed in law.

Many people have tried. All have failed.

I think we're getting a little off track insofar as the laws of thermodynamics debate is going. Seems to me the real key point of the video is the use of hydrogen in place of other fuels, ...

The 'clever' trick would be to extract hydrogen gas from oil and natural gas at source and pump the CO2 liberated back down the source oil/gas well.

The geological strata there has kept the oil confined for millennia. If the oil/gas company are not too sloppy about their well heads, then the stuff should stay confined for a few millennia yet. The heat and pressure down there might even let the CO2 form carbonaceous rocks.

And then again, there could well be the sort of disaster as has happened with the mud volcano in Indonesia...

For whatever is proposed, the complete fuel cycle must be considered.
Regards, Martin

Astronomy is a science and Seti is a quest/exploration, while Boinc is a program using bits and pieces of computer science.

Since nothing has been discovered, nothing can be duplicated and validated...a cornerstone of science.

Yes indeed! :)


And I like the look of the new paint job, too.

The Big Wheel keeps on turning, Brian; what was downside,
becomes upside.

Never lose optimism- even if only that the sun will rise tomorrow,
because you gain a richer perspective with time.

My best wishes to you, my fellow Human

I'm going to get on a soapbox now...and this isn't about you at all greg. I have no issues with you...

You know, I sit back and watch the pettiness that goes on with some of the fights here. All of the wrongs that have been done, has any of it made it "right" again for anyone to just commit more wrongs against the person who you felt wronged you? Those in positions of power, is it possible that you misunderstood? Those of you not in positions of power, is it possible that you push to far?

The person I'm upset about feels I wronged them. In response, they have decided that they are going to wrong me. The temptation for me to retaliate is very strong, particularly when there never was anything for them to be mad about in the first place, as it was all in their head.

Why can't people forgive? Why do people hurt others, especially the people that really genuinely care about them? Why do we all take each other for granted so often?

Almost... You see, there is no need for a corporation to make HHO. You put water in a tank on your car and that's it.

That is the part that won't work. Where does the energy come from to turn the water into hydrogen and oxygen (it has to come from someplace)? Remember that you get less energy out than was put in.

Kinda sad that we would have absolutely no idea if Seti has found another signal since we have no way of analysing the data that we are happily crunching away at.

Unfortunately, this is a perpetual motion machine - and these have been proven impossible. The basic idea expounded is to start with water, produce hydrogen and oxygen from the water, turn the hydrogen adn oxygen back into water, and extract extra energy during the entire process.

The first law of thermodynamics states (paraphrased) that energy cannot be produced from nothing. Basically states that a system cannot gain energy.

The second law states that any actions turn some of the available energy into base heat (you can't even break even).

The HHO engine is garbage science.

Mikey.....
You shouldn't posture here, you don't know who you are dealing with. That's all I will say. We are in virtual reality, and what would happen if you pushed your position in somebody's face might not be pretty.
Let's just keep a civil tongue, and eveybody gets out of here alive.

Okay Mikey...YOU WIN! I don't want to brawl with a 300 pound strongman.

You think I'm nuts or sumptin'??

You're beginning to sound as if you're taking some of this banter personally. That isn't my intention at all. I'm just fooling around, having some fun. When you think about it, my proposal that men should be wearing muslim-style veils down to beyond their navels, is totally ridiculous to begin with. ;)

So...I'm getting outta here before I get hurt! LOL

One person will know what this is about. The rest of you, please pray for me. With all that has happened in my life in the past 8 months, what happened today was total devastation.

I'm going to try to not post in any sensitive subjects, because I may say things because I am so upset.

"They are just enjoying themselves just like everyone else" is a dangerous rationale when it comes to depravity. Consider the possibilities...

I don't dare say them here out loud. LOL

You're playing with fire, mikey. Someday someone will come along and kick sand in your eyes! oO.

[quote]Definitely below the waist!

I mean, have you ever seen some of those fat slobs lolling around on the beach, with their pale fat bellies hanging down over their speedos?

It's indecent, I tell you!

Heyyyy...I happen to BE one of the fat slobs. I just refuse to go to te beach....lmao

HEYYYY if you don't know the people at the beach and will never see them again, let them see it all! What are they gonna do, say something? Your modesty is alive and well around your friends, among people you will never see again.... flash em!!

Poverty, while unfortunate has, at least in the western world, the ‘cure’ of hard work and diligence.

And all this time I thought it had to do with being a sluggard and taking risks... ;)

Definitely below the waist!

I mean, have you ever seen some of those fat slobs lolling around on the beach, with their pale fat bellies hanging down over their speedos?

It's indecent, I tell you!

Heyyyy...I happen to BE one of the fat slobs. I just refuse to go to te beach....lmao

The women are covered up to preserve the intimacy of their appearance for their husbands' enjoyment, I think. It seems more of a property right to me, than any kind of cowardice.

Ah yes, now that is so much more humane. Gee, think what would happen if some woman took off her vail. All that intimacy, gone forever.

Right! And let's not forget about sexual equality...
Surely men should have to wear them too!

I know that both of those speeds are over the posted limit...but the police usually won't mess with you as long as you are not more than 5 over the limit. Unless of course, they are having a REALLY bad day.

As for Montana, an ex-g/f told me when she lived there, her ex-husband would do 100 mph outside of Bozeman.

And back on topic, wheres your green star?

I've been asking Matt that very question since 2005.