Posts by Sarge

1) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2109251)
Posted 28 Oct 2022 by Profile Sarge
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No matter how hard MAGA tries ... .
2) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2109250)
Posted 28 Oct 2022 by Profile Sarge
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someone stuck with their nick? oh the humanity!


I hereby accept the modship offered me by Papa back in 2006. My new screen name is "King Mod".
3) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2104988)
Posted 12 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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That's actually her "Yippee!" face.
4) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2104987)
Posted 12 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I refuse to answer because I might tend to incriminate ... no that isn't right.


"I refuse to answer because I forgot to incinerate ... no that isn't right."
5) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2104757)
Posted 9 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I guess the storm finally came. Thank you Thor for last night.
6) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2104754)
Posted 9 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Everything I've read says that the raid started around 10:00 am local time, and was completed by late afternoon. So why does the BBC keep showing helicopter TV coverage filmed in darkness, with emergency service vehicle lights illuminating the building walls?

Have I missed something? Florida still is in the Northern hemisphere, isn't it? Summertime - long days, short nights?


Raid?

Anyway, it was not 10 a.m. Florida time.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/aug/09/donald-trump-says-mar-a-lago-home-raided-by-fbi-search-warrant-raid-live-news-updates

Around 6 p.m. eastern time.

#TrstDrkJsPlnSgndR
7) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2104752)
Posted 9 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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#TrustDrkJ
8) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2104694)
Posted 9 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Oh, ye of little faith.
Keep heart.
Trust the plan.

#DrkJ
9) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2104554)
Posted 5 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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There's this thing about the relationship between age and memory.


Yes, but gasbuddy can be your friend. Unless the they done hacked it?
10) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2104553)
Posted 5 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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If These Things and Other EVIL Things DID NOT HAPPEN At All -

NON -BELIEVERs would Have a Much Harder Time NOT BELIEVING.


Not true in my case. As I like to put it: I don't believe there are god(s) for precisely the same reasons you (probably?) don't believe there is an actual Santa Claus. Evil acts can be "explained" away. The utter lack of any reasonable evidence for god(s) cannot be.


Is explained "away" the best way to put it to our doubters (the ones agnostic or atheist to our reasoning)? Why not just say explained?
11) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 4 (Message 2104552)
Posted 5 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Hope this Woman gets psychological help while being locked up ...
Woman faces murder charge after lighting boyfriend on fire at Arlington gas station, police say
The Woman then entered the gas station, purchased 50 cents worth of gas and pumped the gasoline into the back seat of the car, where her boyfriend was sitting, the affidavit stated. She then “ignited the gasoline with an unknown object as she stood outside her vehicle,” the document said.


There's probably some connection to https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85882&postid=2103781.
12) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2104528)
Posted 5 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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A few weeks ago, on a site that shall not be named, I saw someone comment on a post about the fact that prices have been dropping that "the they" are "grooming" us to believe such high prices are acceptable. Do they think Trumpy Bear had us at $2.50 per gallon his entire term? Do they forget the prices of 2008-2009? So on and so forth. Sad. Very sad.
13) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2104466)
Posted 4 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Toto I don't think were in ...


Kansas?
14) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2104382)
Posted 3 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I see that your selection of far right fake facts/news/science sites is expanding and I must say that there are some really sick people attached to that delusional mob.


Been a while, but my last searches showed several sites copying some original "article" verbatim. Couldn't even change the title.
15) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2104343)
Posted 2 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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If you are wondering why Donny buried his first wife at the Bedminster, N.J golf course, it could be because a cemetery in New Jersey doesn't pay Property, income & sales tax.


And I'll ask as I have elsewhere: so, one body makes it a cemetery?

Cambridge says plural to me: an area of ground in which dead bodies are buried.

Donny has apparently set out two plots, one for the family and one, large enough for up to a 1,000 of his friends, who of course will have to pay for the privilege.

story at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/31/donald-ivana-trump-cemetery-golf-course-taxes and other media sites.


Hmmm. Are those New Jersey tax laws ... "settled law"?
16) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2104303)
Posted 2 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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If you are wondering why Donny buried his first wife at the Bedminster, N.J golf course, it could be because a cemetery in New Jersey doesn't pay Property, income & sales tax.


And I'll ask as I have elsewhere: so, one body makes it a cemetery?

Cambridge says plural to me: an area of ground in which dead bodies are buried.
17) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2104302)
Posted 2 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I reckon that "Tuckerpox" should've been the winner.

Carlson poll to rename monkeypox lands on “schlong covid” as winner.

Who writes this stuff for him?


Is it true there are other euphemisms for that s- word?
18) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2104287)
Posted 2 Aug 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Joe with rebound, still winning!
19) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103809)
Posted 25 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Steer clear of the 12 Monkeys.
20) Message boards : Politics : KARI LAKE for VP Running Mate with SUPERTrump. Wat A FIREBRAND. A Female SUPERTrump. Maybe More So. (Message 2103808)
Posted 25 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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So irrelevant. Sad. Very sad. Loser Lake. He tries to make read.
21) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2103807)
Posted 25 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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BTW, on that adventure I reached the halfway point to the mountain peak. At that point is a camp. The caretakers there had COVFEFE19. Therefore, I kept my distance from the main cabin.
22) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2103780)
Posted 24 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Still dodging it. 80% in the US have had it?!?

Yes...

Interestingly, that's very similar to the rate for here in the UK.


So is it that 1-in-5 of the population are more aware so as to be able to dodge covid?

Or is it that those 1-in-5 people are just generally more healthy in how they work and live?...


Somewhat an interesting mix!

Stay safe folks!!
Martin


Disclaimer: my workplace has not had regular testing since April of 2021 or so. I have not felt symptoms and so have not tested. I am broadcasting a 10g signal, though. I have been working on improving my health for 7 years. Less than a month ago I reached 10100 some odd feet in elevation and soon I plan to go another 500-2000 feet higher. I think we have a mix.

P.S.-anyone I regular interact with here wishing to see pictures or videos from that adventure, PM me.
23) Message boards : Politics : KARI LAKE for VP Running Mate with SUPERTrump. Wat A FIREBRAND. A Female SUPERTrump. Maybe More So. (Message 2103779)
Posted 24 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Larri Kake is becoming more irrelevant by the day.
24) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103778)
Posted 24 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I said, he is fine. So, he can keep raising the price of gas on y'all, make ya drive electric cars, drink Starbucks and get jabbed!
Oh, and that handsome man, he is fiiiine. Ohhhhh, myyyy.
Lulz.
25) Message boards : Politics : KARI LAKE for VP Running Mate with SUPERTrump. Wat A FIREBRAND. A Female SUPERTrump. Maybe More So. (Message 2103760)
Posted 24 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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And some people just love hypocrites.


Now that post contained relevant information! :) Thanks, Wiggo!
26) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2103759)
Posted 24 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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For a worldwide update and news report on the progress of, and progress against, covid:


DW: Why do some people not get covid?
wrote:
... Researchers are trying to figure out natural immunity. For now, it looks like vaccination will be vital as we learn to live with the virus.



There is good hope and good progress yet.

Stay safe folks!
Martin


Still dodging it. 80% in the US have had it?!?
27) Message boards : Politics : KARI LAKE for VP Running Mate with SUPERTrump. Wat A FIREBRAND. A Female SUPERTrump. Maybe More So. (Message 2103704)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Loser Lake was lamestream media before she hated lamestream media.
28) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103702)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Our sword and laviour Joe is super-fine.
29) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why won't ET introduce himself? (Message 2103698)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Besides participating in seti@home for several years, I've been interested in ET in other ways. Lately, I've been watching The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch (History Channel, Tuesday nights) as well as other ET-related shows. I watched the movie A Tear in the Sky. (I highly recommend it.) And there are various other shows about alien visitations, not to mention the many books on the subject.

I've started to wonder, why doesn't ET introduce himself/herself to us? I mean, it's becoming sort of evident that they exist. They're not even trying to hide their ships anymore.

So why do you think they're still avoiding us? I have one or two ideas, but I'd like to hear from you all first.


Not trying to hide their ships?
Suggest you check the multiple YouTube debunking vids.
Flapping bird wings quite evident in many.
And perspective is also being destroyed in these films.
30) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103693)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Content in lacking information or purpose is the definition of ... ?
31) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103690)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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We love our pronouns!
32) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103673)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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C'mon, [insert pronoun here].
33) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2103656)
Posted 23 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Seriously, no one else has seen this before or has thoughts on it, in either direction?


They did.


Thanks.
34) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2103648)
Posted 22 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Yes or no?
food is too healthy


Look at the magnification of the drawer that was to his left (right side of the picture). Faked or not?


Seriously, no one else has seen this before or has thoughts on it, in either direction?
35) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2103473)
Posted 20 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Yes or no?
food is too healthy


Look at the magnification of the drawer that was to his left (right side of the picture). Faked or not?
36) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103472)
Posted 20 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I do not love the fact he's not yet in prison but I love the fact he will be.

Wouldn't count on that as a "fact" until it actually happens... the wealthy and powerful have a different set of laws. Always have. Always will.

Usually the issue is the prosecution wants a feather and in their quest to get a feather severely over reach and make themselves look like the fool.


And then they (both the one being investigated and the prosecutor) come down with cases of bird affluenza and get into MyPillow fights.
37) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2103455)
Posted 20 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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This came up four years ago when he was POTUS

Actor and comedian Tom Arnold accused President Donald Trump of previously abusing Adderall on the set of NBC's The Apprentice.

"Donald Trump abused Adderall on the set & it made him crazy. He even snorted Adderall. Mark Burnett knew it. It's scary," he wrote in a tweet, accusing The Apprentice creator of knowing that the president took the attention deficit hyperactivity disorder drug.




Yes or no?
38) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2103439)
Posted 19 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Man ... just ... c'mon.
39) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103225)
Posted 15 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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CluelessJoe admitted he doesn't know who the president is


Yer funny.
Breitbart?
Seriously?
G'me a break, man.
40) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2103224)
Posted 15 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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You mean Tucker who is afraid of women with power?


Does Tucker actually fear much or does he get to sit pretty while stoking fear to those that watch and listen to him?
41) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2103001)
Posted 12 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Don't ever use the word smart to describe DJT. (C'mon, man!)
42) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102997)
Posted 12 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Trump needs to be color coordinated, an orange prison jump suit would do the job.


Exactly when in the last 30-40 years has he shown fashion sense? (C'mon, man!)
43) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102991)
Posted 12 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Yep Joe is lovable, vaxed and boosted. Go Joe, what a guy.

And not Orange.


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44) Message boards : Politics : SCOTUS returning the U.S. back to the dark ages. (Message 2102929)
Posted 11 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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It seems to have been overlooked that the Puritans were exceedingly intolerant of even other Christian denominations.


By some, apparently. Not all. The strife in Europe just followed people over across the pond.
45) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102928)
Posted 11 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Cmon man do we need to keep going over these debunked theories no Hunter is not a hunter no more so than DonJr nor Erick von Danichen ancient aliens not saying it was but it was they made the guidestones and Marjorie and Kandiss are human-grey alien hybrids or at the least hologramic reptiloid clones of JFK and Hillary cmon man!
46) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2102885)
Posted 9 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Whatever I think of Boris, it's light years above what I think of Vlad. Come get me, Vlad.
Left to his own devices, he probably would


I actually have no doubt he would if I posed even a modicum of a threat to him.
47) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102884)
Posted 9 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Yes the Qer died of the Covfefe91 and the nurses and doctors are suing his next of kin for abuse along with medical bills because he had TrumpCares instead of ACA aka ObamaCare plus the Qer had multiple pre-existing conditions including a receding hair line, beer gut, IBS, weak lungs and stoopidity and no no link to Elon Musk has been found yet but the hyperloop might still yet just get built maybe before the wall gets built and so Joe no stopping the wall now right Joe oh what happened to that Twitter sale someone had to bail fancy he had a child by 2 gals within two weeks guess something about that guy ain't weak but sheesh he is a follower of the Georgia Guidestones what was he thinking 1.21 gigawatts,
48) Message boards : Politics : SCOTUS returning the U.S. back to the dark ages. (Message 2102882)
Posted 9 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Oh YES :-)

(Or maybe a well located trash can or two)


When I was just a little boy in 1943, because my Daddy was in the Navy fighting fascists and Mommy was riveting, there were bi babysitters because all other adults were in similar situation thank the great green arkleseizure for TV and Sesame Street so mr smith are you suggesting we have Clarence the Grouch?
49) Message boards : Politics : SCOTUS returning the U.S. back to the dark ages. (Message 2102881)
Posted 9 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Wonder when SPLC will put the Federalist Society on one of its lists?


Likelihood?
50) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102880)
Posted 9 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Say what you want, Joe is vaxed, boosted and you claim not to be. Joe is great and Trump is going to prison, lsn't that great?


I hear his boosting is working so well that some secret Qer within gov tried to give Covfefe91 to Joe but the boost was like those shields in TOS Star Trek and it repelled the Covfefe91 back to the Qer and then the Qer got sick and hospitalized and put on oxygen and the Qer kept screaming at the nurses "I'm not sick" and then the Qer died of the Covfefe91.
51) Message boards : Politics : POTUS Harris (Message 2102828)
Posted 8 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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And still no repercussions over it after all this time. ;-)


Pretty cool, huh?
52) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102803)
Posted 8 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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Did anyone here or anywhere make the claim contraception is the same as abortion? No? Didn't think so. Straw man ignored. Moving right along.
53) Message boards : Politics : POTUS Harris (Message 2102758)
Posted 8 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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We love you, Kamala!


So do we!
54) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102757)
Posted 8 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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History lesson: look up the Comstock Act of 1873. Relevance? We've already rolled things back 49 years.
Give a break? Yeah, no, "C'mon, man!"
55) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102726)
Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I spoke truth and the opposition knows it. Saying the opposite multiple times a day for years on end just to be edgy is counter productive. Mitch and Jordan don't want lazy men.
56) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102725)
Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
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I have said this before, Joe is great, vaxed and boosted. What's not to like?


he sho aint no scrub!

    57) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102709)
    Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't talk to me about "protected sex" when there's already work to ban contraception. Protection is contraception and you know it.
    58) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2102708)
    Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Moscow's answer to the demise of Bozo the Clown.
    President Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Mr Johnson "really does not like us - and we [do not like] him either".
    He said he hoped "more professional people" who could "make decisions through dialogue" would take over in London.
    Hilarious.
    Moscow's glee


    Whatever I think of Boris, it's light years above what I think of Vlad. Come get me, Vlad.
    59) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102707)
    Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No need to talk about the soon-to-be-convict, anymore. Let's talk about Joe.
    Let's talk about Joe, baby.
    Let's talk about you and me.
    No Scrubs.
    60) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2102706)
    Posted 7 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yummy.

    Amanita phalloides, very tasty.


    Adenochrome.
    61) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2102671)
    Posted 6 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only reason the right doesn't like GWB anymore is because Trump told them to not like him anymore.

    GOP speaks ill of GOP. The deadly unpardonable sin. The true measure of a RINO.

    It's literally open season.
    What's the bag limit?

    538?
    62) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102556)
    Posted 5 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jill texted me back. She said she's cool with it. 100s of millions can't be wrong!
    63) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2102555)
    Posted 5 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only reason the right doesn't like GWB anymore is because Trump told them to not like him anymore.

    GOP speaks ill of GOP. The deadly unpardonable sin. The true measure of a RINO.


    It's literally open season.
    64) Message boards : Politics : SCOTUS returning the U.S. back to the dark ages. (Message 2102554)
    Posted 5 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just more proof that you don't read links. ;-)


    The only way I see the other is by others quoting, but pretty sure I saw that admitted once.
    65) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2102498)
    Posted 4 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, it's not the obvious example. :^p Much more recent. People who disagreed with George W. Bush's 2003 Iraq invasion were routinely pilloried as traitors or libby loos or wimps or whatever insults were fashionable at the time, and the media was almost completely onboard with it (as Michael Moore demonstrated in Fahrenheit 9/11, for the making of which he was constantly slandered and received death threats... the usual.) As time went by, it became evident what most of the rest of the world was already aware of and found obvious: that no or exceedingly minimal WMDs were present in Iraq, that the regime was secular and antagonistic to, never mind not merely affiliated with, Al Quaeda or other Islamist groups, and as predicted this would energize Islamist terrorism in the region when their opponent was removed... ISIS/ISIL and others ended up being fertilized in the ashes of the war.


    The only reason the right doesn't like GWB anymore is because Trump told them to not like him anymore.
    66) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102497)
    Posted 4 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SUPERJOkE Aching to Get Home SOZe He Can Speechify and SPEW LIEs

    His Brain Chemistry when LYING is Like a MainLine Rush for RATFACE.

    America Waitin' to Give BIGGuy a SUPERLoveHug

    C'mon Man. Get Back Home Bro!!!!!

    SUPERUpChuck

    Joe is great, vaxed and boosted, you claim to not be vaxed or boosted, that's not great.


    We luv Joe. Might Jill allow us into a pan polygamist relationship with Joe? :)
    67) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102494)
    Posted 4 Jul 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am not against the death penalty because of the guilty (having very little sympathy with murderers) but the innocent wrongly convicted.

    Similarly, I am not pro-abortion because of perfectly healthy consenting people who don't take precautions etc. I do acknowledge them the right, but with similar disdain to not wanting public nosepicking to be criminalized. I am not merely pro-choice, but pro-abortion, for rape victims, especially children, and if the mother's or fetus' life is in danger.

    It's a complex shades-of-grey issue, one whose ethical nuances are lost in a world where everything needs to be simplified down to bumper sticker slogan size.


    Well said. Also, Gary's comment that followed.
    68) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2102140)
    Posted 28 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #SenileJoe is about to exit Air Force one in Munich Germany for the G7 Summit and they have rolled out the red carpet for him making sure it's straight and even so he doesn't trip and fall.

    Will he make one or more unintelligible "speeches" at the Summit meetings that needs deciphering?

    Time will tell.


    #Senile
    #unintelligible
    #Time
    #post
    69) Message boards : Politics : KARI LAKE for VP Running Mate with SUPERTrump. Wat A FIREBRAND. A Female SUPERTrump. Maybe More So. (Message 2102139)
    Posted 28 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Paula White Cain or Kat Kerr would make better running mates for Trumpy Bear.
    70) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102014)
    Posted 26 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I personally think that men have little or no right to take a stand against abortion rights. It is the one issue that could ruin a candidates chances of winning an election. All women should have the right to choose that path. They should also take better precautions to prevent pregnancy in the first place. I also would never council a woman to have an abortion, But as long as there are orphanages that are crammed full and there are babies dying from starvation banning abortion is absurd. Fortunately for those who feel the need to get one, many states will never make abortion illegal again as well as most civilized nations around the world.


    +1 but ... .

    If the midterms do the GOP way, as someone else mentioned, there will quite likely be a bill to ban nationally. Though Biden would veto, nothing stops another attempt at a time when the GOP has both branches. Unless the 3rd, judicial branch, has become less extreme by that time.
    71) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102013)
    Posted 26 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must confess, never thought about that angle.
    However, it will be a boon for tourism in the RotW.
    All those lovely vacationers travelling to a country with legal abortion. :-)
    All that profit for the airlines.
    Pretty sure that the airline lobbyists will pressurise the numpties in power to NOT interfere in curtailing those profits.
    Edit:

    As for banning contraceptives, well...
    Market to reach $20.5 billion by 2026
    Any ban surely has to impact some American companies to a fairly large degree. How many American pension funds hold shares in contraceptive companies?


    Oops, pro-corporate Amy forgot this! Citizens United! Corporations are people, too, my friend. Check out the statement from the CEOs of Dick's Sporting Goods.
    72) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102011)
    Posted 26 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closing his brief remarks, Biden asks everyone, on all sides of the abortion debate, "to keep all protests peaceful, peaceful peaceful".
    "Violence is never acceptable,” he says. "Threats and intimidation are not speech".
    Finally, Biden addresses American women, saying he knows they will now face "incredibly difficult situations. I hear you. I support you. I stand with you".

    At the conclusion of his brief remarks, Biden said that the US people "can still have the final word" in the ongoing fight for abortion rights in the US.
    "This is not over," he said.
    Biden took no questions from journalists at the White House.

    Welcome to the latest banana republic.


    I could be wrong, but I believe he also said something along the lines of vote. Organize and vote "harder". Though those comments may have come later. When he could talk about unpacking the court.
    73) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102010)
    Posted 26 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apologies to all.
    Joe Biden speaks.

    Speaking now, US President Joe Biden says the Supreme Court has taken away a constitutional right of the American people.
    "They didn't limit it, they simply took it away," Biden says.
    "It's a sad day for the court and for the country."


    I also apologize when Joe speaks, but the Trumpys are never satisfied. It's almost as if they think I'm some DINO/RINO.
    74) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2102009)
    Posted 26 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    dA WAY Weeee da Weeee Peoples LIKE 'IT'.


    If you're seriously agreeing with banning birth control, I highly doubt "Weeee da Weeee Peoples" is more than a disproportionately noisy ten percent or so radical fringe.


    Is not "agreeing with ... a ... noisy ... radical fringe" dangerously close to "you're radical fringe"?
    75) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2101809)
    Posted 23 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh those far right RINO's do it yet again, 1st it's Texas and now Tennessee GOP leaders urge delay of toddler COVID-19 shots

    What is it with these moronic lunatics?


    I believe it was DeSantis first.
    76) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101808)
    Posted 23 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sokath, his eyes open!
    77) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101806)
    Posted 23 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The beast. At Tanagra."
    78) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101728)
    Posted 22 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember, MAGAworld has said it's ok to go rHino hunting!
    And, Pence saying Biden is the most dishonest president ever in his lifetime. To that I say "40. Feet."
    79) Message boards : Politics : North Korea Part 4 (Message 2101727)
    Posted 22 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    North Korea reports 'epidemic' of unidentified intestinal disease after Covid wave.

    North Korea has dispatched medical crews and epidemiological investigators to a province battling the outbreak of an intestinal disease, state media reported on Sunday.

    At least 800 families suffering from what North Korea has only called an “acute enteric epidemic” have received aid in South Hwanghae Province so far.

    Enteric refers to the gastrointestinal tract and South Korean officials say it may be cholera or typhoid.

    The new outbreak, first reported on Thursday, puts further strain on the isolated country as it battles chronic food shortages and a wave of Covid-19 infections....


    I wonder if Kim is forcing several to go out and work much like happened here in the US very early in the pandemic.
    80) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101512)
    Posted 18 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm fine video 0m:28s


    JOE! He can ride a bike! Some other guy canNOT!
    81) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101507)
    Posted 18 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, Donny sure is "BATSHITE CRAZY" and certainly has a 'Sanity' problem.

    But then again so do many of his supporters and that a actual fact that can be supported by many hundreds of links (oh, but I've already posted many of those havn't I?). ;-)


    Did you like the ratface Don pic link I shared? :)

    Not quite as much as the pictures of him humping the US flag.


    I took this over to the Donny thread.
    This is our thread for praising glorious JOE!!!
    82) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101506)
    Posted 18 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not just flags!
    83) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2101505)
    Posted 18 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's he going to prove beyond all doubt that he's a total moronic lunatic?


    Do you mean what's he going to sell?
    84) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101470)
    Posted 17 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DJT, flag molesting sniveling ratface!
    85) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101466)
    Posted 17 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, Donny sure is "BATSHITE CRAZY" and certainly has a 'Sanity' problem.

    But then again so do many of his supporters and that a actual fact that can be supported by many hundreds of links (oh, but I've already posted many of those havn't I?). ;-)


    Did you like the ratface Don pic link I shared? :)

    Not quite as much as the pictures of him humping the US flag.


    That was awessssommme!
    86) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101448)
    Posted 16 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, Donny sure is "BATSHITE CRAZY" and certainly has a 'Sanity' problem.

    But then again so do many of his supporters and that a actual fact that can be supported by many hundreds of links (oh, but I've already posted many of those havn't I?). ;-)


    Did you like the ratface Don pic link I shared? :)
    87) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Cats Part II (Message 2101405)
    Posted 16 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kiva Mu.
    88) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101402)
    Posted 16 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A picture of a sniveling ratface!
    89) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2101401)
    Posted 16 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I agree, but we are indicators of people who have and use their brains.


    Generally, yes. Still, we all also have others thing with which to tend. Moreover, as we ourselves are not international investigative reporters, we must rely on outside sources for more information.
    90) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2101369)
    Posted 15 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, we have gone three days without any posts about what's going on in the Ukraine. So the interest of the whole world dwindles.


    S@H fora are not indicators of the world at large.
    91) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101368)
    Posted 15 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donny’s raising of $250m for fund that ‘did not exist’ suggests possible fraud.


    The grift that keeps on taking. They're going to rob us while we're in our graves.
    92) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101367)
    Posted 15 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We'll See RATFACE in ORANGE - Along with His Crime Family


    Will that be before or after Hillary Clinton, as "predicted" over many years?


    Ratface? I haven't heard anyone describe DJT such, but it is quite fitting. Isn't it?
    93) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101338)
    Posted 15 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    60k to Newsom's former wife. To spend 3 minutes introducing her new guy.
    94) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101337)
    Posted 15 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The second best part is he will get to wear an orange jump suit, maybe one of our favorite unvaxed posters will vist him.

    Think they wear green in the federal joint.


    I'll check with Alfonso G. To see if this is true. He used to appreciate hearing me sing "Policy of Truth" after one of his shifts there.
    95) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101318)
    Posted 14 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to be a political reporter for Fox News, then what Fox New's response when you call it correctly.

    A. You're congratulated
    B. Given a Bonus
    C. Fired
    D. Promoted

    The answer is in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA-MfbrzNms


    Ooooh, I know this one! C!!!
    96) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101317)
    Posted 14 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It will really be awesome when we see Trump in the NY state prison for criminal tax fraud.

    Followed quickly by transfer to ADX Florence.


    Sounds familiar. :)
    97) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101278)
    Posted 13 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Joe, you awessssommmmeee![/quote
    Yes and he's vaxed, boosted and doesn't like Putin.


    "'Member, 'member, Paul, when Joe was a Beatle?"

    "Why, yes, Chris, I do remember!"

    "That was awwwwwesommme!"
    98) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101258)
    Posted 13 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe, you awessssommmmeee!
    99) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101257)
    Posted 13 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't he take notice of Donny? You're suppose to lead from the rear and out of site.


    Or Pink Floyd in "Us and Them"
    Forward he cried from the rear
    And the front rank died
    And the general sat
    And the lines on the map
    Moved from side to side


    But, they criticized Obama for "leading from behind". We needed that strongman Donny?
    100) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101236)
    Posted 12 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Helping Joe out while keeping the babies fed.

    190,000 pounds of baby formula landing in US Sunday.

    More is coming. ;-)


    All praise Joe, feeding DA b4bi3z+!!
    101) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2101235)
    Posted 12 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a user of leg power and public transportation, I agree with a lot of this list. I do have to wonder what has happened to gas use in the US since the mid-90s, as well as accidents/mortality since then.


    Average MPG has doubled since the 1970s, but only increased from about 20 to 25 since the 1990s. The industry ends up making larger and heavier vehicles when efficiency improves, which minimize the gains. Source.

    Deaths per distance per capita has been on average falling since the 1960s and is close to its lowest point. We can probably thank seat belts, air bags, laws and social pressure against DUI and anti-lock brakes as major contributors. Source.


    My car in 1994 was getting mpg in the high 30s. :)
    102) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2101218)
    Posted 12 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is making money from the Fox 'Entertainment'?
    My Pillow? The stuff that won't sell on shopping channel?


    On a local TV station, they started airing his commercials on Sunday mornings during local news and national news. A good 50% of the commercial is Lindell whining about supposed "cancel culture" rather than selling his product!
    103) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2101217)
    Posted 12 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #ChurchToo revelations growing, years after movement began.


    I'm betting there will be more.
    104) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2101216)
    Posted 12 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, all that doesn't matter to her is the price of gasoline... she is not so special. For me you can also add: insurance, licensing, registration, depreciation, repossession, maintenance labour, breakdown tows, unrepairable and unnecessary onboard electronics, parking, traffic jams, most road closures, carjackings, speed limits, unnecessary stop signs, unnecessary red lights on some three-ways, and a bunch else. I think Sarge may be in agreement with this list as well.


    As a user of leg power and public transportation, I agree with a lot of this list. I do have to wonder what has happened to gas use in the US since the mid-90s, as well as accidents/mortality since then.
    105) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2101182)
    Posted 11 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps no advertiser is prepared to have their good name sullied by being associated with Tucker?


    Just the opposite: his rate is the highest on cable "news"

    It would seem that that Fox was willing to lose well over $100K in revenue to keep its viewers from changing their channel.


    As is frequently pointed out, there are a fewer big conservative TV stations. Anyone not on that side has multiple TV stations as well as magazines, YouTube channels and on and on to split up across.
    106) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2101181)
    Posted 11 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And before Dull comments on gas price being too high, spare a thought for those outside the U.S.
    US gas prices hit fresh high of nearly $5 a gallon as UK sees record equivalent to $8.60


    We can't think outside our own country. That's how we're conditioned. So that we can then blame the US leaders we don't like.
    107) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2101180)
    Posted 11 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge is an LGM


    S@H found me long ago. I was hiding under your noses all this time.
    I am also the last glacial maximum.
    Leg power over petrol!
    108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A new Critter thread (Message 2101179)
    Posted 11 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just look to India and some of their gods.


    I'm missing what you're getting at here. Are you suggesting that being familiar with conjoined twins back then led to (at least in part) the conceptualization of the images of the Hindu gods and goddesses with multiple limbs?
    109) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2101021)
    Posted 8 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe does it again.

    Millions of Vets Sickened by Burn Pits, Toxins Allowed Care Under New Law.

    More than 3.5 million veterans exposed to burn pits and other toxins while serving oversees will be eligible for health care and benefits under a bipartisan bill signed into law Tuesday.

    President Joe Biden signed legislation intended to give veterans suffering from respiratory illnesses and cancers from toxins they came across in war zones access to needed medical care. The landmark legislation is the culmination of years of work by veterans groups who say it's long overdue....
    When Donny didn't when he had the chance too.


    Bc0s donNy is fer da dyin of da militurz. He no carez.
    110) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2101020)
    Posted 8 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got your charger yet?


    The sun charges me! fotoSYNtheSIZE, baby!!!
    111) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21st Century #2 (Message 2100945)
    Posted 8 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Continuing from https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76907

    Picking it up because Chris doesn't want to.


    More like 18th or 19th century. eh?
    112) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100944)
    Posted 8 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ‘H2Hubs’ will fuel American hydrogen production in $8 billion program.


    Dat's cuz Joe keeps a rollin, all night long! Chooo, choo! Hydrogen, baby!!!
    113) Message boards : Politics : Fake News! (Message 2100943)
    Posted 8 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wouldn't be at all surprised if the fossil fuel industry was the original source of that mushroom feeding piece of crap. ;-)


    sORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO POST THAT On the myspaceoface/
    114) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100917)
    Posted 7 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... your poo does not smell.

    What?!

    Hope that isn't a new fast-food product?!!


    Stay healthy folks!
    Martin


    If Kim Jung Il can bowl 300 and not defecate, then Biden can have non-smelly poo.
    115) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100907)
    Posted 7 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I love you, Dear Leader Joe. I pray you continue to lead the USA along the righteous path you have put us back and upon and your poo does not smell.
    116) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2100906)
    Posted 7 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tennis? He plays tennis, too? I'll bet he hits a birdie in the back 40 love?
    117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A new Critter thread (Message 2100857)
    Posted 6 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... Two - TWO headed snake found on an Arizona golf course

    Yikes!

    I'd be very worried about what chemicals are sprayed on that course, or for what might be in the water...!


    Stay safe!
    Martin


    I don't know if I will be back to the response to this soon, as you know I usually go to politics.
    But, why?
    Do we ask the same question with conjoined twins?
    Conjoined twins existed well before the industrial revolution, I am betting.
    118) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2100856)
    Posted 6 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How will Trump run when he's in prison?


    "IK,R"?
    119) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100855)
    Posted 6 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All posts to the contrary are FAKKKE NEWSY!!! JOE is the BESSST! PERIOD!!! Accept it and join Build Joe Back Better!!! It will only take SIX MILLLLLLLION dollahz!
    120) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100829)
    Posted 6 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JOE has DEEESTROYEDDD corona! CVD9 totally HUMILLYIATEDDDD!!!
    121) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2100615)
    Posted 2 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just like China and Russia. Spin spinning, disinformation.
    The truth is a state secret, disclosure of which is a capital crime, even if it is just the weather report.


    If Abbott, DeSantis & Trump have their way, it'll be the same here.
    122) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100614)
    Posted 2 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear Joe is a beast in the ... . No meds needed. Jill must be very happy.
    123) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100550)
    Posted 1 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear Joe hits a hole in one, every time.
    124) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2100549)
    Posted 1 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Typo there.
    You missed out the 'm'
    SUPERDrumpfers


    Fixed it for you.
    125) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2100547)
    Posted 1 Jun 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With America and the NATO countries, plus Ukraine, on one side, and Russia on the other, we appear to have two firm rivals.


    I better choose to take part for just one here, because Russia could be an aggressor in a war noone really wants.

    Just bad wording here, Michael Watson.


    What?
    Really, this is confusing.
    126) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100454)
    Posted 30 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As some continue to scream and screech incoherently it's now a fact.

    Trump Added More to the National Debt Than Obama and Bush.

    I wonder how much of it he pocketed himself.


    Lots, just on the golf outings.
    127) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2100275)
    Posted 27 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SUPERHealthy

    Not convinced.

    You got me thinking of this.


    Maybe just "shine on"?
    128) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100274)
    Posted 27 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ad hominem attacts instead of attacks on policy show the strength of your arguments.
    I speak as one who is vaxed and boosted twice.


    THEY CONFUSE POLICY WITH POLITICS.
    129) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100167)
    Posted 26 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, Joe! There goes Toky-Joe!
    Joe, Joe, Joe-zilla!
    130) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2100166)
    Posted 26 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is the one I cannot see somehow justifying?
    131) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2100113)
    Posted 24 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Discover Magazine was reporting on drug-resistant super-bacteria in the late 1990s or early 2000s. One thought floated for their existence is the desire for "complete eradication". I wonder if that thinking has changed. Or, do we have more evidence that we should not go the route of complete eradication and also go with more "natural" ways of cleaning.
    132) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100110)
    Posted 24 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joltin' Joe!
    So glad you're here, Joseph R. Biden.
    A happy nation
    turns it's adoring eyes
    to you.
    Woo hoo hoo.
    What's that you say,
    Mrs. Robinson?
    133) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2100079)
    Posted 24 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go Joe! Go go! You go this Joe! Go!!!
    134) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2100078)
    Posted 24 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When will these moronic RINO's finally understand what the "First Amendment" actually stands for?
    When they join the ACLU and defend all civil rights.


    Need the first domino to fall to get them to do that. Now, what do we think that domino is?
    135) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2100077)
    Posted 24 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Many of the unvaxed will cull themselves from the gene pool and the specie will evolve.


    Pretty sure he's already reproduced.
    136) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2100019)
    Posted 23 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is 30 years of appeasement coming to an end?
    Thank god that Merkel's dream of a "political union" was dashed!
    Too little too late?
    The West's political leaders should hang their heads in shame allowing a comedian to show them how to stand up & be counted.


    https://www.nato.int › nato-welcome
    NATO's purpose is to guarantee the freedom and security of its members through political and military means
    ... .

    (Emphasis added.)

    Ummm?
    137) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2099998)
    Posted 23 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has Tuck been vaxed and boosted?


    Claimed on April 12 to not be.
    I emphasize claim.
    And, if not, am pretty sure he doesn't have the "FOX Clear Pass" and so is probably continuing to getting a lot of swabs of his nose.
    Or, is he broadcasting from his basement?
    138) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2099997)
    Posted 23 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    House approves bill to take aim at gasoline 'price gouging'.

    Go Joe.


    Joe! Joe! Joe!
    139) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2099707)
    Posted 17 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GOP just wants to make money from you at this point.
    140) Message boards : Politics : When will the West stop pandering the Israeli government? (Message 2099568)
    Posted 15 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They're only doing to the Palestinians what Hitler did to the Jews and it must end.

    They had a good teacher ...


    YHWH?
    Babylonians circa 500 BCE?
    141) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2099567)
    Posted 15 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is said ”Wayne Dehoney, Southern Baptist Convention president in the 1960’s, noted, in 1976, the difference between Protestant and Catholic theology when he said: Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception.'"
    My question is, can anyone track down where he originally said this?


    This is a possibly "official" info source for the denomination:

    "The blog cited as evidence a 1971 Southern Baptist Convention resolution that supported “legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental and physical health of the mother.”

    In his 2006 book, Thy Kingdom Come, Randall Balmer noted the approval of the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized most abortion by First Baptist of Dallas Pastor W.A. Criswell, president of the Southern Baptist Convention at the time."

    “Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception,” Dehoney said.


    At the time the Declaration and Constitution were written, given that instruments for safe internal examination were basically non-existent, it was uncontroversial that a fetus was not considered alive at all until its "quickening", when it began to noticeably move, at 17 to 23 weeks which is in the second trimester. There were absolutely no restrictions against termination before quickening whether by chemical, surgical or other means in any state. (Even Benjamin Franklin published a how-to walkthrough based on pennyroyal.)


    Christians be like, "U no wanna be pregnant, no does the s33x".
    bLESSED hOLy mama Mari virginesco be like: looks on in stoopified horror. Very shocked by her/her son's followas.
    142) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2099541)
    Posted 14 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Joe!
    143) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2099359)
    Posted 12 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The USA no longer has men. It does have conspiracy spouting [redacted]

    Livin' in VA, There are Plenty of MEN.
    Nope just wanna's.

    Real men do, they don't talk about it. Talk about it is envy of what you don't have.


    Cardbord Sarge is in VA.
    144) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2099353)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is said ”Wayne Dehoney, Southern Baptist Convention president in the 1960’s, noted, in 1976, the difference between Protestant and Catholic theology when he said: Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception.'"
    My question is, can anyone track down where he originally said this?


    This is a possibly "official" info source for the denomination:

    "The blog cited as evidence a 1971 Southern Baptist Convention resolution that supported “legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental and physical health of the mother.”

    In his 2006 book, Thy Kingdom Come, Randall Balmer noted the approval of the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized most abortion by First Baptist of Dallas Pastor W.A. Criswell, president of the Southern Baptist Convention at the time."

    “Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception,” Dehoney said.


    At the time the Declaration and Constitution were written, given that instruments for safe internal examination were basically non-existent, it was uncontroversial that a fetus was not considered alive at all until its "quickening", when it began to noticeably move, at 17 to 23 weeks which is in the second trimester. There were absolutely no restrictions against termination before quickening whether by chemical, surgical or other means in any state. (Even Benjamin Franklin published a how-to walkthrough based on pennyroyal.)


    I thought I'd found the resolution mentioned, but this link https://www.sbc.net/resolutions/amResolution.asp?ID=13 doesn't work.
    One moment, let me see if a link I found last night still works. Yep: https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/resolution-on-abortion-2/?fbclid=IwAR2jibZ9iShOksxQRJ56U3jxMtwMnOi_KmNGWSuL-A8wm9XU4nxVV_BhgSY.
    145) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 2099275)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On July 2, 1776 when the Declaration was done and for many years after, the father could abort the child until the twenty first year after birth. Since the GOP so loves the founders, adopt that as the standard.


    It is said ”Wayne Dehoney, Southern Baptist Convention president in the 1960’s, noted, in 1976, the difference between Protestant and Catholic theology when he said: Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception.'"
    My question is, can anyone track down where he originally said this?
    146) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2099274)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These look good and I bet that they smell better too

    Volta's electric delivery trucks coming to the U.S. in 2023.


    I didn't smell good after getting shocked by the fence.
    147) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2099273)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OOps, thought this was the p**p thread.
    148) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2099272)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe he's working on a comic strip for us?


    I don't remember what I was talking about.
    Pull my finger.
    I mean, shake my hand.
    149) Message boards : Politics : Never forget Christopher Steele (Message 2099271)
    Posted 11 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uh huh?
    150) Message boards : Politics : Never forget Christopher Steele (Message 2099069)
    Posted 6 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I get it. Reading is hard. But it is fundamental. RIF. Woooof, help McGruff take a .... grrr, biiiite ... outta crime.
    151) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2099068)
    Posted 6 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Removing a Prez with Less than 2 Weeks Left.

    Congress Takes Years to Get NOTHING DONE.

    'cept for RAISING Their Pay and Other GiveAways to Their DONORs

    SUPERYap

    And ensuring they are re-elected.


    Then why did he vote for the guy that INCREASED THE SWAMP?!?

    Any who ... it's time for Dems to throw the entire lousy lout in jail. Bunch a lousy traitors. Guilty until proven innocent, new null hypothesis for GOPhers.
    152) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2099067)
    Posted 6 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He truly is quite the soopah. Almost Greek-goddish. Jill is a lucky woman.
    153) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2099052)
    Posted 6 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see that Joe got a rousing welcoming in Alabama at the Lockheed Martin.

    They loved him.


    SupaJo!
    154) Message boards : Politics : Never forget Christopher Steele (Message 2099051)
    Posted 6 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Read the thread title


    +1
    155) Message boards : Politics : Never forget Christopher Steele (Message 2098862)
    Posted 3 May 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Never forget he was first hired by REPUBLICANS!!!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=steele+was+hired+for+gop+opposition+research&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS886US886&oq=steele+was+hired+for+gop+opposition+research&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2j33i299l2.9049j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
    156) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2098613)
    Posted 29 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NO, that is just being very wokey.


    Ah, so being woke is not an offense here?
    157) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2098584)
    Posted 29 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is asking whether Tucker is hateful, or says or does unwise things ... provoking him?
    158) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2098561)
    Posted 28 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question: do most of us here believe Tucker is a hateful person?
    159) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2098526)
    Posted 27 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya know, I barely read the messages anymore. Because they're fake messages. Do your thing, I'll do mine.
    160) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2098481)
    Posted 27 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is 'THEY'.

    Name 'em

    EVERY ONE

    Part 1, with pictures
    if you want more let me know ...


    Albert,.
    Alfredo.
    Billy Bob.
    Carlos.
    Diane.
    Diiue Xhan.
    Ernest.
    Friedrich.
    Gerald.
    Hiram.
    Ira.
    Irene.
    Jack.
    KAREN!
    Little Ditty.
    Mary.
    Nico.


    Superman
    Kal-El
    CALIfornication
    Expo
    Expy
    Al Bundy
    Atrocious.

    DON'T SAY DESANTIS!!!
    161) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2098440)
    Posted 26 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even Super Joe can't rescue us from the mess of the Trump-Kushner administration. We're doomed!
    162) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2098326)
    Posted 24 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wat? 'bout 10,000 Links So Far of 'BAD DEEDs' by dA BAD GUYs.

    Yet SUPERDonny and His SUPERSupporters are FREE BIRDs.

    And Always Will Be.

    FREE FREE FREE heeeeeheeeeeheeeee

    Like So Many DEMs Before and Now.

    ALL CRIMINALs ALL da TIME

    Life is GOoD REAL GOoD

    ROTFLMMFAO

    SUPERYep


    Because he's baaaaaaad, he's bad, you know it's true. Beat it. Just beat it. No one wants to be here, beat it.
    163) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2098267)
    Posted 22 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just wow, MTG! I don't remember? Etc. ... . Sounds like a b.s.er that has learned from Putin well.


    Surprised this crazy lady didn't answer, "NO, that's not me on that video, it's a deep fake!"
    164) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2098260)
    Posted 22 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just wow, MTG! I don't remember? Etc. ... . Sounds like a b.s.er that has learned from Putin well.
    165) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2098218)
    Posted 22 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is 'THEY'.

    Name 'em

    EVERY ONE

    Part 1, with pictures
    if you want more let me know ...


    Albert,.
    Alfredo.
    Billy Bob.
    Carlos.
    Diane.
    Diiue Xhan.
    Ernest.
    Friedrich.
    Gerald.
    Hiram.
    Ira.
    Irene.
    Jack.
    KAREN!
    Little Ditty.
    Mary.
    Nico.
    166) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2098059)
    Posted 19 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I watched this the other night.

    While the Rest of Us Die: Secrets of America's Shadow Government: Radical Religion

    Some religious organisations are protecting their wealth and political influence while threatening democratic norms--all with the aid of America's political elite.
    It's a real eye opener. ;-)


    The true deep state.
    167) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2097947)
    Posted 17 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we lay off the pipe already?

    I'm bored already. See you in 23?


    Spreading the disease. Everybody needs. But no one wants to see,
    168) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2097946)
    Posted 17 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's ok Kev, I'll let this post die also, no one cares of today now........


    It's a democracy and the no votes have it. God is thus voted out of existence, as if She existed previously.
    169) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2097894)
    Posted 16 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you want to live under a dictator?


    Got my answer from a "former friend" close to July 4, 2020: he wanted to live free under a dictator so long as it was the right dictator. Yes, he said that.

    Guess people no longer want to think.

    Probably the case that most people don't want to make decisions, which would require thinking.
    So they just go along with what they are told and that's usually from an unreliable source.


    And look to Jordan Peterson for how to be a better man?
    170) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2097893)
    Posted 16 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To say "I want to live free under the right dictator" is a fine oxymoron.
    By definition a dictator removes all personal freedoms apart from those of a very select few.
    So, no rights to property, no rights to a salary of one's choice, no rights to drive, hunt, fish. Be directed to where one must live. Expect to be arrested or "vanished" on (probably) false grounds.
    Have to apply to the State to go to visit either another country, or another part of the country you live in.
    A pretty bleak existence for 99.99% of the population, while the ruling 0.01% are seen to profit and live a life of massive excess.


    Of course it's an oxymoron. And that's why I no longer associate with him nor support his business. If I never see him again in my life, I will hopefully be better for it.
    171) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2097892)
    Posted 16 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you want to live under a dictator?


    Got my answer from a "former friend" close to July 4, 2020: he wanted to live free under a dictator so long as it was the right dictator. Yes, he said that.

    Guess people no longer want to think.


    Around the same time, I told him we had shutdowns not lockdowns. I pointed him to the videos of Chinese people being forced back into their homes in December 2019 or January 2020. He said it was because of communism. I said, in response, it was due to totalitarianism (or authoritarianism) of which communism is just one flavor. He retorted, "No! It's because of communism!"
    172) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2097868)
    Posted 16 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you want to live under a dictator?


    Got my answer from a "former friend" close to July 4, 2020: he wanted to live free under a dictator so long as it was the right dictator. Yes, he said that.
    173) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2097831)
    Posted 15 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am vaxed and boosted, I don't think Tucker is but he is a Putin lover and I'm not.
    So there you go.


    Fox News drops testing option for office workers and will ...https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Americas
    Dec 21, 2021 — Employees in Fox News's New York office will now have to show proof of vaccine, the Fox Corporation told staff on Friday.
    174) Message boards : Politics : The Ukraine Crisis (Message 2097828)
    Posted 15 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why hasn't Trump done anything about this?!? I'm OUTRAGED!!!
    175) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2097487)
    Posted 10 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
      x

    176) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2097407)
    Posted 8 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ketanji Brown Jackson sounds like a good pick. ;-)
    And confirmed 53-47.

    Senate confirms Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court in historic vote.


    I'm poot-in, cuz I have gas.
    177) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2097156)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we lay off the pipe already?

    I'm bored already. See you in 23?
    178) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2097155)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Being squished. Who isn't, more or less?


    Some squishin ain't so bad. Others, aint so gOOd?
    179) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' DONALD (Message 2097154)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +42
    180) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2097151)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Religion and GOD was 'Created' to HOPEFULLY STOP da CARNAGE.

    Are you sure about that? I suspect it was created to amplify the carnage, to increase us vs them.


    Strongly suspect as well. And I doubt the one you quoted believes that anyway. Learns from gAslighTeRs well?
    181) Message boards : Politics : GOD or NOT #2 (Message 2097150)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your Children are GOoD at Their MOST Favorite Task.

    DESTROYING Each Other.


    Children tend to be influenced by their parents.


    Ahhhh, you quoted an example of pROjeCTION?!
    182) Message boards : Politics : The "Other" Electric Vehicles Thread (Message 2097148)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread had such potential!
    183) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2097147)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    mo Fo

    Wow perfect descriptions of RINO's! Incestuous. Like it better than echo chamber!


    Cocaine & orgies? Don't let Goofy near him!!!
    184) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2097146)
    Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Treasonous Tucker the accidental Russian agent supporting Putin.

    How Russia Is Using Tucker Carlson as a Propaganda Pawn.


    Axxidental?
    185) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2092220)
    Posted 15 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, no. You are wrong. BYE!!!
    186) Message boards : Politics : Best new political movie I've seen in a while. (Message 2092116)
    Posted 13 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After reading the last few posts I would never guess what the original topic was. But in a way that is what the original topic was. If the subject matter is un comfortable divert the attention and change the subject. Well done everyone, and remember "Don't Look Up"


    There was a topic? And remember, "Look up. Look down. Look out. Look around. There's a crazy world outside, but they're not about to steal me pride. It can happen to you. It can happen to me. It can happen to everyone ... eventually."
    187) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2092114)
    Posted 13 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joeccult practices are strong with these ones.
    188) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2092113)
    Posted 13 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The moderators may be contacted at seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu
    189) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2092062)
    Posted 13 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Down a MERE 2 cents this time. C'mon Joe-man! We need bigger drops in prices for us to stay in da worships of the joecult!
    190) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2092061)
    Posted 13 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Believe Some One has purposely put my RAC at ZERO. No one else seems to be at ZERO. Hmmmmm. Years and Years and Years have gone by.

    When the servers were shut down everyone's RAC went into free-fall for a few days. If your initial RAC was near zero it ended up at zero, if it was high it was reduced by a couple of orders of magnitude before someone hit the "stop playing about with RAC" button.
    As to the red-x, it is out of control of the mods and is still visible on my phone but is ever so tiny - what type device are you using?


    Going back to the 2nd post, quoted above, we see there's apparently a legitimate concern. The Red X not being accessible to some anymore. However, we have had (for years and years) another way to draw attention to concerning posts. Namely, with each post, we are given the email address.

    The moderators may be contacted at seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu
    .
    191) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2091957)
    Posted 11 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Moderators are not able to change the ownership of a thread.


    They clearly are, since I did not start the thread. Someone complained about something. in a separate thread I apparently made a semi-decent comment. Then the comments were gathered into this thread and my name was assigned to it. That I did not start this thread can clearly be seen by the fact that the thread opener is not by me.
    192) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091920)
    Posted 11 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did You Get Voted Into Your Job?

    Yes.
    By the other engineers in a very small office that covered nearly all engineering disciplines.
    The Office Manager only got a vote if there was a tie, didn't happen in my case.


    +1
    193) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091885)
    Posted 10 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas down ANOTHER 3 cents per gallon!


    Yet again!
    194) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2091884)
    Posted 10 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.fox4news.com/news/audit-finds-no-widespread-fraud-during-2020-presidential-election-in-texas

    Note when this or anything similar was published.
    195) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091882)
    Posted 10 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Electric Vehicles in action:


    Does the Tesla Tunnel make sense?? Angry checks out Elon Musk's LVCC System!


    That looks to be a good win for the very low infrastructure costs and as an actually useful demo.

    How will that get developed further?


    All on our only one planet,
    Martin


    Check out what "Thunderfoot" on YouTube has to say about Musk's various ideas. What points of agreement do we have with his assessments? Disagreements?
    196) Message boards : Politics : Don;t know where it should go? Stick it here 3 (Message 2091739)
    Posted 8 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, but! He can't be from California!? Theyz all libz?!
    197) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091738)
    Posted 8 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That "other Joe" is fast losing the support of some of his constituents.

    Manchin can support the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund by backing Build Back Better.

    It's no wonder that West Virginia has been a dwindling state since the 1950's.


    Almost went to a college in the southwest portion, though. Some parts of the state are very pretty.
    198) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091659)
    Posted 7 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas down ANOTHER 3 cents per gallon and polling at its highest ever, period!
    199) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091596)
    Posted 7 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe we need a "Good Will Hunting" moment with the MAGA. "It's not your fault. It's not your fault." "Don't f' w/ me. Not you. ... ... ... . Wah ha ha, blubber blubber."
    ?
    200) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091594)
    Posted 7 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd like a populace who are smart enough to tell the difference between regurgitated pap and investigative journalism, and demand the latter.


    Am quite unaware of a large percentage purchasing cars on the basis of journalism, good journalism or otherwise.
    201) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091558)
    Posted 6 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think you are hitting the nail on the head. Much of today's media are either too lazy, or too incapable, or both, to do real-world tests of new cars. These so-called motoring journalists get flown off to some exotic location where they are wined and dined then given a quick trip round the area in a nice new car, then return to more wining and dining. Gone are the days when they would have a car for days if not weeks, trash it mercilessly round a track for a day and at the end of this abuse write the report, including the fuel consumption for various aspects of the test.


    You want reporters doing statistical analysis (n = 1) rather than statisticians?
    202) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091501)
    Posted 5 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, guess we're back to serious conversation? OK, then, who can beat CRUSHING DINOSAURS?!? Put the feet of those MAGA rioters to good use and have them CRUSH DINO!
    203) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2091477)
    Posted 5 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's no problem with my crowd sizes down there, BELIEVE me!
    204) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091476)
    Posted 5 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess this thread has bitten the dust.

    Frozen solid


    Like Joe as he exited AFO?
    205) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091471)
    Posted 5 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-air-force-one-snow-b1986005.html whilst DJT doth at the Winter "white house" golfeth.
    206) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091470)
    Posted 5 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess this thread has bitten the dust.
    207) Message boards : Politics : The "Other" Electric Vehicles Thread (Message 2091437)
    Posted 4 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those looking for real solutions.
    208) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2091417)
    Posted 4 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The nooses tighten.

    January 6 committee gets inside Trump's West Wing wall of obstruction.

    Ex-National Archivist Thinks Trump Is Hiding His Records to Avoid ‘Prison Time’.

    New York AG subpoenas Ivanka Trump, Don Jr. in fraud inquiry into family business.

    Even Iran wants him.

    Iran calls for Trump, Pompeo to face trial for Soleimani assassination.

    And some Canadians are getting worried about their neighbour due to Donny, his fleas antics and their brain dead supporters.

    US could be under rightwing dictator by 2030, Canadian professor warns.

    It should be an interesting year for Donny and his family, well for us decent and actual law abiding people anyway, though crooked delusional Donny will disagree.


    Bumping your post, since you're an honest actor in this conversation.
    209) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091403)
    Posted 3 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems that no one wants to conduct a serious discussion about this issue but would rather make stupid jokes that shed no light on potential solutions, probably motor heads.


    Someone looking for potential solutions would be a breath of fresh air. We would greatly appreciate if such honest actors were the ones starting threads. Well, we is at least me.
    210) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091402)
    Posted 3 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Being squished. Who isn't, more or less?


    Well, I lost 60 pounds 3 years ago. I've mostly kept it off. Does that man "other" Joe is squishing me?
    211) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091346)
    Posted 3 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because?
    212) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091345)
    Posted 3 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not?
    213) Message boards : Politics : The 'Other' JOE (Message 2091328)
    Posted 2 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Top o' the morning to ye! Caffeine, yea or nay?
    214) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2091295)
    Posted 1 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MODs: Please See Message 2091240.

    Thank You


    No.

    Mods, please place this thread in the name of the person I am replying to, not me.
    215) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091243)
    Posted 1 Jan 2022 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So telling the truth is biased now?

    Well after all rhe earth us flat.


    sIR sIC.
    The Earth ams the flats.
    216) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2091178)
    Posted 31 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did you get your jab while on vacation?
    Like uncle Donny asked you to?


    Candace Owens is not one of the beautiful people. Her heart is evil. Allegedly.
    217) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2091177)
    Posted 31 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're a few days late with that 1. ;-)


    :)
    218) Message boards : Politics : We See ENORMOUS Amounts of MONEY Going to ILLEGAL Border Crossers. Let's See How Much Monies Will Go to STORM Survivors and Their Towns (Message 2090837)
    Posted 25 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess that you can only blame Donny for all those refugees heading north in the 1st place and here is just 1 example of why.

    Migration to U.S. empties Venezuela's once-booming oil capital.


    Strangely, things were net negative before Trumpy bear. Negative.
    219) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090836)
    Posted 25 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas down another 3 cents per gallon! All praise to our saviour Joe!!!
    220) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090721)
    Posted 22 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Am staying at The Biden Tower Hotels...


    Good marketing opportunity: "I get the best night's rest ever at the Biden Hotel. Thanks, Sleepy Joe! And the complimentary shampoo leaves my hair smelling so nice..."


    We griftas gotta grift!
    221) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090707)
    Posted 22 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Am staying at The Biden Tower Hotels this weekend for the holidays. Don't expect me to post. I'll be enjoying some Biden Steaks and Biden Vodka out on the fairway. Gonna plot 22 re-election schemes with Hunta. Later, losas! /sarcasm
    222) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2090706)
    Posted 22 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do do such a menial thing as an IQ test was well below his pay grade.....


    Thought he didn't take a salary?
    223) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090684)
    Posted 22 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No Dunning Krueger on the Joe part. Overton window reset.
    224) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2090683)
    Posted 22 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well those Donny and Bill shows are still not pulling in the fans, I wonder why?

    Meanwhile Donny may soon be in more trouble.

    The January 6 committee is toying with asking the DOJ to prosecute Trump for obstruction of Congress.

    Is he really that stupid?

    Trump plans news conference on January 6, anniversary of deadly U.S. Capitol riot.


    Anybody that claims "only I can solve it" is indeed that stupid. Dunning Krueger on steroids.
    225) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090649)
    Posted 20 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Awwwwww, yeah. JOE!!!!!!!!!!
    226) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090496)
    Posted 18 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's called "efficient" journalism - one poorly paid journo writes the article and their agent markets it to several media outlets....


    Oh, "efficient" would be one word for it. I do believe Samuel Clemens had something to say on these issues.
    227) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090464)
    Posted 17 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My Links are NEVER Believed.
    Maybe that's because your links go to delusional far right gutter rags that can't get anything correct (though they are renowned for making up plenty of fake news B.S.). ;-)


    Do a copy and paste from one of these articles and you'll find at least 3 other sites using the exact same article, word for word.
    228) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090456)
    Posted 17 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a leftist living in a leftist state it is obvious that on a daily basis I need to look forword to commiting violent crime on a every day.


    In a peaceful patriotically way.
    229) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090400)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just so you know.



    She didn't vote Biden.
    230) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090397)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only person to use that word is a Donald tRump appointment to the Fed.


    Well I have heard it from Joe Biden, Jen Psaki,
    various other advisors and chairman of the Fed and countless synchophants in the news media.

    I deem it to be a Narrative of the recent Left Wing news cycle. Some opinions there in may be changing as I post.

    Chairman of the Fed was appointed by 45. Extreme right wing. Anyone else is just an echo of him.


    A hologramophic clone.
    231) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2090396)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here in the UK the pandemic is now two overlapping epidemics of SARS2-Delta and SARS2-Omicron.

    Both are rampaging through the unvaccinated. However, the rapid increasing spread of Omicron is amazing!

    We'll be beyond 100,000 new cases each day before this weekend!!!


    Stay safe folks...
    Martin


    Actually, the worst variants are
    D
    J
    and
    T.

    You are so right D J and T, just remember the T is a silent killer.


    Eric understood as well.
    232) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2090354)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here in the UK the pandemic is now two overlapping epidemics of SARS2-Delta and SARS2-Omicron.

    Both are rampaging through the unvaccinated. However, the rapid increasing spread of Omicron is amazing!

    We'll be beyond 100,000 new cases each day before this weekend!!!


    Stay safe folks...
    Martin


    Actually, the worst variants are
    D
    J
    and
    T.
    233) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090353)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For starters most people know that it takes around 2yrs for a new government's policies to take effect and some of you here applauded Donny while he was still riding on Obama's policies 2.5yrs later until things started turning bad on him just before COVID hit which made things even worse and now you want to blame Joe for what COVID and Donny has done?

    Hypocrites is 1 word that comes to mind 3 others are Alzheimer's, Dementia and Senility.


    Yep and in the meantime, thread on top so WINNING!
    234) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 2090352)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just back from a good few hours out and about and didn't see anything like that happening anywhere.


    Beware the Jubjub Bird and whatever other imagined nightmares... Keep off the mind benders!!!


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    I was attacked by falling Ents!
    235) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 2090348)
    Posted 16 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just did 1.6km today just pushing a mower around the yard and I feel so good now I can handle a few beers. ;-)


    It's almost as if the human body is a machine!
    236) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090333)
    Posted 15 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Transitory = moving.
    237) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2090332)
    Posted 15 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A quarter of a mile is NOT a long walk.
    I also have bad knees, and at least once a week, usually twice, I walk to my local shops and carry the shopping, fresh milk and veg being the order of the day, home, which are, according to google maps, 600 mtrs away by the crow flys, and have no problems,
    N.B. I am older than you.


    That's 5 minutes or less.
    I walk 5-7 miles a day.
    238) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2090276)
    Posted 14 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Far far far less of a problem compared to the spectacular car exploding gas tank...

    Hollywood style, yeah?!!!

    Go bang!!!


    In all pessimism and Hollywood make-believe.

    Or...


    Go green and clean folks!
    Martin


    I saw a car explode. 1995, after the drunk driver hit me. It wasn't a big explosion. But an explosion. ;) Good ol West Virginians.


    It's almost as if his car exploding was ... (non-existent) amrak?
    239) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090275)
    Posted 14 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The inflation is not a local problem it is world wide and is caused by the supply chain disruptions caused by covid. No person or policy except SUPER JOE! can fix it as long as covid is in control.


    Super Joe alone can fix it!!!
    240) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090261)
    Posted 14 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you believe that Inflation has only been 6.8 % since a year ago. Do you believe they used a correct consumer price index to come up with this. Do you believe inflation is "Transitory" as per sleepy Joe and the narrative of the Media. If so, I have some property in Florida that I would like to offer you and part ownership in the Brooklyn bridge. I am also offering freezer distribution rights in Alaska and Antartica.

    I figure anyone who drives to work, heats their home, shops for a new or used car likes bacon and eating a good steak would put the inflation rate so far at about 15 to 20 % or more.

    Rebuttals welcome
    Okay, what levels of importance do you attach, and why?
    https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t01.htm


    Well, in order of importance

    1
    2
    3
    4
    ...

    Need I continue?
    241) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2090198)
    Posted 14 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Amrak.
    242) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090134)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you believe that Inflation has only been 6.8 % since a year ago. Do you believe they used a correct consumer price index to come up with this. Do you believe inflation is "Transitory" as per sleepy Joe and the narrative of the Media. If so, I have some property in Florida that I would like to offer you and part ownership in the Brooklyn bridge. I am also offering freezer distribution rights in Alaska and Antartica.

    I figure anyone who drives to work, heats their home, shops for a new or used car likes bacon and eating a good steak would put the inflation rate so far at about 15 to 20 % or more.

    Rebuttals welcome


    Uh huh?
    243) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090133)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RATFACE Said This:

    And my job is to be straightforward, shoot from the shoulder, let people know exactly what the truth is, and lay out how I’m going to try to make life better for them.”


    Man O Live

    Pop Those Pills RATFACE. Delusion Pills.

    Yep


    Nope.
    244) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090132)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join JoeHeaven'sGate! We'll beam ... you ... up!!!
    245) Message boards : Politics : We See ENORMOUS Amounts of MONEY Going to ILLEGAL Border Crossers. Let's See How Much Monies Will Go to STORM Survivors and Their Towns (Message 2090131)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No we don't.
    246) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2090130)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Post was made with a Link to someone dying of CV

    Another Poster said: KARMA

    If I said this, I would Get Banished.

    Why is this Poster Not Banished?


    I don't know the post(s) but there are some criteria:

      Was it a forum member who died or an outside celebrity or personality? There will always be less tolerance of statements about forum members.
      Was it in Politics or another forum? Politics allows discussions and statements that don't fly in the other forums. This is done so that forum members who don't wish to have their threads turn into political arguments or participate in them can avoid them simply by staying out of here.
      Did the person who died actually make public statements to about COVID-19 which may have justified the comment? ieTo try to get others to avoid getting vaccinated/wear masks in indoor public spaces? Spread conspiracy rumors that it was a hoax/engineered? Diminish the issue by saying it was hype or overblown, etc.?


    I think it was 2090077 which is about a politician who advocated conspiracy theory about the novel corona virus and vaccination.


    Post 2090077 not found.
    247) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2090129)
    Posted 13 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Post was made with a Link to someone dying of CV

    Another Poster said: KARMA

    If I said this, I would Get Banished.

    Why is this Poster Not Banished?


    I don't know the post(s) but there are some criteria:

      Was it a forum member who died or an outside celebrity or personality? There will always be less tolerance of statements about forum members.
      Was it in Politics or another forum? Politics allows discussions and statements that don't fly in the other forums. This is done so that forum members who don't wish to have their threads turn into political arguments or participate in them can avoid them simply by staying out of here.
      Did the person who died actually make public statements to about COVID-19 which may have justified the comment? ieTo try to get others to avoid getting vaccinated/wear masks in indoor public spaces? Spread conspiracy rumors that it was a hoax/engineered? Diminish the issue by saying it was hype or overblown, etc.?



    Then again, karma does not exist.
    248) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090071)
    Posted 12 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://gasprices.aaa.com/gas-prices-retreat-on-fears-of-covid-19-resurgence/

    Go, Joe!!!

    (oOPS, wait, based on fears of TrumpVID resurgence.)

    Nevermind my parenthetical comment, the un-nuanced need to think I', i a JoeCult!!!! HAHAHA!!!
    249) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2090069)
    Posted 12 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Detroit Fake News lies! He's still alive! Hanging with Elvis?

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/01/wayne-county-canvasser-hartmann-dies-after-contracting-coronavirus/8819812002/#Echobox=1638399716
    250) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2090064)
    Posted 12 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe to the tornado rescue!!!
    251) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089994)
    Posted 11 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SO, What's dA ADVANTAGE and SMARTNESS in Being or Becoming VAXXed?

    I KNOW. Less Serious Illness/Sickness and LESS Likely to Die.

    Waiting

    You got it, why wait?
    The only thing you are waiting for is to see if you get sick and if so how sick.


    When did Dennis Prager join dUh forums?
    252) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089973)
    Posted 10 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am vaxed and so is Joe the Great, we are smart.
    Covid cares if you are vaxed.


    But you do agree Merica is a town in Turkey? Wonder how those turkeys are doing with the VID?
    253) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089962)
    Posted 10 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, Donny pity party is over. If only several autocratic leaders hadn't followed the autocratic Donny lead, we wouldn't be worrying about CVD9 so much. Mostly Donny's fault.
    254) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2089961)
    Posted 10 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's give the Donny thread a temp bump above Joe, for a pity party.
    255) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089960)
    Posted 10 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we talking those little bumps in the Appalachians or real mountains.


    I've been to approximately 8000 on a "14er". Not my fault the surrounding town is already starting at approximately 6000. All measurements in feet because Mericans are stubborn about our measurement systems. (Yes, Merica is a town in Turkey.)
    256) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089928)
    Posted 10 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have pix of me on a mountain. Can other poster say the same?
    I don't need a pix as I live on top of 1. ;-)

    Cheers.


    Well, you're not "other poster". But slightly jelly. I have to go 40 miles.
    257) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089904)
    Posted 9 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh I Wish for a Health Off.

    I Challange Any VAXXed to My UNVAXXed Health Status.

    Young Old In Between.

    Let's Compare Our Physical Prowess.

    Let's Run Up a Mountain from Desert Floor to ICY Peak and Down Again.

    C'Mon MAN!!!!!

    Let's Do da RATFACE RUMBLE Baby!!!!!

    Winner Gets a Signed AutoGRAFT Pic of RATFACEs VAXX Arm!!!!!

    YEp

    Covid doesn't care,
    Yep


    Have pix of me on a mountain. Can other poster say the same?
    258) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2089901)
    Posted 9 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Reports coming in that New York Attorney General Letitia James is seeking a deposition from former president Donald Trump on Jan 7th as part of a civil investigation into whether Trump’s company committed financial fraud in the valuations of properties to different entities, such as Banks and the IRS.


    He's been a bad bad boy.
    259) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089788)
    Posted 8 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas prices down 14 cents a gallon! All praise to his gloriousness Joe!
    260) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089787)
    Posted 8 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The broken record continues with nothing to say.
    Yep


    Oy?
    261) Message boards : Politics : Fake News! (Message 2089786)
    Posted 8 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good to dream??!

    Keep searchin',
    Martin


    Nah, she might have a decent body, but the mind? As monstrously ugly as I am, I have dated women far smarter with bodies just as good or better.
    262) Message boards : Politics : Fake News! (Message 2089778)
    Posted 8 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boebert's left her husband. FOR ME!
    263) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089711)
    Posted 7 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OY!
    264) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089695)
    Posted 6 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the U.S. is about to open the doors of its brand new 50M+ clubhouse a question that has been on my mind has been finally answered.

    People in pro-Trump areas nearly three times more likely to die from COVID-19: NPR analysis.

    People living in counties that voted for former President Trump in the last presidential election are nearly three times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those who live in counties that voted for President Biden, according to an analysis conducted by NPR.

    For its analysis, NPR looked at about 3,000 U.S. counties and the deaths per 100,000 people since May 1, 2021. The news organization found that individuals living in counties that voted for Trump by at least 60 percent had 2.7 times the death rate of counties that voted for Biden at the same clip.....

    ....NPR noted that while vaccine hesitancy was more spread out across different demographics earlier in the pandemic - African Americans, younger people and those who live in rural areas - the vaccination rates have since risen for most of those groups.

    However, the vaccination rate among Republicans has stagnated at around 59 percent, while an estimated 91 percent of Democrats are now immunized.


    You didn't mention independents.
    And as for why independents still exist? We know of the Great Party Switch of the early 70s.
    265) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089694)
    Posted 6 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eh?
    266) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089683)
    Posted 6 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm obviously the least funny. And working my butt off. Thanks, Trumpy Bear, for helping things soooo great again. So so greeeaat.
    267) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089652)
    Posted 6 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sten my moderna booster did not have the nano bots but I have turned metalic and magnetic. I am eagerly awaiting to grow a third eye.
    Those who had Pfizer may glow in the dark due to luciferin ;-)
    My friends keep getting really close to me while using their 5G phones.


    I'm 7.5 and still ppl keep their distance.
    268) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089524)
    Posted 3 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull I don't know where you get your numbers from but when I google about vaccinations worldwide I find that 44% have been fully vaccinated. That equates to 3.5 billion fully vaccinated and over 8 billion shots in total.

    edit] The NYT says 4.29 billion have received at least the 1st dose. That's nearly 60% of the world population.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

    And one company alone has delivered more doses than you claim have been given.
    AstraZeneca will deliver up to 3 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccine across the globe by the end of 2021

    https://www.astrazeneca.com/what-science-can-do/topics/technologies/pushing-boundaries-to-deliver-covid-19-vaccine-accross-the-globe.html


    Where'd the numbers come from? Probably the same place as where we get survivability rates by dividing by population size instead of number of cases.
    269) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089472)
    Posted 3 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did you understand? I don't think so.


    The "not chaos and confusion" part was probably confusing.
    270) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2089471)
    Posted 3 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, he sad (correctly) BAD news for Trumpywumpysnufflelugalupisbear.
    271) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089470)
    Posted 3 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Covid: Trigger of rare blood clots with AstraZeneca jab found by scientists
    These clots, known as vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia, have been linked to 73 deaths out of nearly 50 million doses of AstraZeneca given in the UK.


    To put that in perspective
    The risk of a gun-related death in the U.S. - 1,060 in a million.


    Perspective.
    272) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089415)
    Posted 2 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Until the computer surfaces with the FBI this is swiftboating.


    The FBI loooovvvves Joe!
    273) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089414)
    Posted 2 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the virus does is not your decision.

    What YOU do to protect yourself, your family, your friends, your workmates, your community - IS your decision.


    +1
    274) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089355)
    Posted 1 Dec 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We love you, JJJJJoooooe!
    275) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089319)
    Posted 30 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It sort of looks like to me that the virus is settling into a typical flu like scenario. Granted, if people around the world continue to practice better health care procedures the overall health of the planet will benefit but some activities are bound to resume. People are getting restless.


    They were restless before 15 days was up. Gimme a break. No wonder "15 days to stop the spread" failed when some people GAVE ZERO DAYS!!!
    276) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089318)
    Posted 30 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The OmniCRON SCARIANT

    more $$$$$$$$$$$ for me, love the OT.


    Yer just part of the big corporate scary afterlife bizness, so we can't take your schilling word fer nuttin. /sarcasm
    277) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2089215)
    Posted 29 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and you thought Covid was bad ...
    France has detected a "highly pathogenic" strain ... . The virus is being analysed by the French Agency ... . All ... affected ... in the northwestern town of Warhem will be killed and a 10-kilometer surveillance perimeter has been set up, with all movement ... prohibited in the area.


    Okay got you attention on how an outbreak must be handled to prevent spread ...
    France has detected a "highly pathogenic" strain of bird flu at a poultry farm close to the Belgian border, the government said today.

    It's the first time since an serious outbreak last winter that the avian flu has been found in a French farm, the agriculture ministry said in a statement, although four cases have been found among wildlife and three in backyard poultry.

    The virus is being analysed by the French Agency for Food, Environmental and Occupational Health and Safety. All birds at the affected farm in the northwestern town of Warhem will be killed and a 10-kilometer surveillance perimeter has been set up, with all movement of poultry prohibited in the area.

    Part of the circumscribed area is in the Belgian province of West Flanders. Belgium's Federal Agency for the Safety of the Food Chain today adopted additional measures for the towns of De Panne, Veurne, Alveringem and Poperinge. Poultry farmers and private owners must keep birds caged, and poultry shows and markets are prohibited.


    This is against poultry free will! YHWH gave them the right to be uncaged, strut stuff at shows and go to market to find someone to eat them.
    278) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089181)
    Posted 28 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [The Golden Toupee] Sleeping and Dreaming of His Next Ice Cream Cone.

    Beds in a BILLIONAIREs Home Must be da COMFYist.

    Wat a [past has-been] ...

    Wat a JOkE

    So Sad

    Yep

    Isn't that the story of Trump.

    One for the Trump corruption thread?


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    Yes.
    Yes, it is.
    279) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089037)
    Posted 26 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He told Roker we're back! Yayyy!
    280) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2089013)
    Posted 26 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kumbayah, our Joe. Kumbayah. Kumbayah, our Joe. Kumbayah. Oh, Joe, kumbayah.
    281) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2089012)
    Posted 26 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Far far far less of a problem compared to the spectacular car exploding gas tank...

    Hollywood style, yeah?!!!

    Go bang!!!


    In all pessimism and Hollywood make-believe.

    Or...


    Go green and clean folks!
    Martin


    I saw a car explode. 1995, after the drunk driver hit me. It wasn't a big explosion. But an explosion. ;) Good ol West Virginians.
    282) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2089002)
    Posted 26 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't forget the RV's & Caravans.
    Wonder if the manufacturers have cottoned on yet & start designing those with Solar panels & internal charging points. :-)

    ICV ones already have solar, for the cabin electric. There are places where you can't run the generator due to noise regulations.


    And the generators cause ear cancer? :)
    283) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088946)
    Posted 25 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ohmyjoe, thank Joe we've made it through another year!
    284) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2088945)
    Posted 25 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, now broadcasting 7.5 ghz. You're welcome!
    285) Message boards : Politics : Electric Vehicles (Message 2088944)
    Posted 25 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So you not only forget to fill your vehicle, you forget to charge your phone.

    Do I see a pattern here?


    Pat ... turn? Pat ... riot? A pattern with a patriot?
    286) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088895)
    Posted 24 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hunter just published "My Daddy's First 6 Months". In his foreword, he wrote, "No other U.S. president has done slightly more than average as my Daddy has in history, and it's slightly more than average because of the Trumpdemic recovery! PERIOD!!!"
    287) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088872)
    Posted 24 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just in time for the electric CARRRS!
    288) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088871)
    Posted 24 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe's brought gas prices down 7 cents in just one week!
    289) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088809)
    Posted 23 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe thanks Hunter for not suggesting he endorse Parnell.
    290) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088800)
    Posted 23 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nuclear football Joe!
    291) Message boards : Politics : Fake News! (Message 2088588)
    Posted 21 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread will probably fail ...

    That is a fake lie?...


    Correct.


    Note this beautiful example that even pre-dates Trump!


    Not in age, only in public attention to him.

    An Example of Trump's Lies?

    Excellent!

    Does Trump smoke?...


    No.

    That criminal on the right is at least better dressed than Trump!! Even has a better shaped belly...


    Truth.
    292) Message boards : Politics : POTUS Harris (Message 2088506)
    Posted 20 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We love you, Kamala!
    293) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088493)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An absolutely wonderful thing is happening here.

    Let George Washington explain it:
    "The foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing...
    is a vice so mean and low, without any temptation, that every man of sense and character detests and despises it."

    Hence we know who the men without sense and character are.


    But, muh familah valooz?
    294) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088485)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's go Martin!


    "Let it go Buddha"?
    295) Message boards : Politics : Let that .... go, Buddha (Message 2088451)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "It's not just a saying, it's a ..." movement? It's ok, SteveyK, everybody poops. Do you need some laxative?
    296) Message boards : Politics : Let that .... go, Buddha (Message 2088449)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Buddha = Bannon and .... means.
    Compared to this, LGB is weak.
    297) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2088426)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Drive?
    DRIVE?
    LOL!
    Shrushly?
    Bruh.
    Bruoaheim.
    Git wit dhe pergam.
    298) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088423)
    Posted 19 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas down 2 cents. Praise Messiah Joe Bacon!!!
    299) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088271)
    Posted 17 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Enough bacon will choke out the mindless drivel.


    Awww, yeah, bacon economy is heatin up!!! I'm on fiiiire!
    300) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088238)
    Posted 16 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bacon seems to have shut down the background noise for now.


    How in the ever living Hades could bacon go unappreciated? Isn't it big biz in Fairfax, Alexandria & Springfield. Maybe even more so in Richmond! Dems big city slickers got 2 git therre baon frum the farmurz out in da stickz of Virginyeah. Bacon economy is herre in a da hizhaus!
    301) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2088195)
    Posted 16 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Usually, rock solid is a compliment.
    I think I've lost some brain plasticity during all of this.
    302) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088194)
    Posted 16 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like I said, great and spectular. Competent. Winning. Multiplicity of ways. I'm glad you agree. Thank you for jumping ship from one cult to another. ;) JOE IS GREAT
    JOE IS GREAT
    Repeat after me
    JOE IS GREAT.
    Robots welcome chicken users of the day that stack exchange?
    303) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088168)
    Posted 15 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe, the world's great winner. In so many ways.
    304) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088141)
    Posted 15 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spectactularly competent!
    305) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2088140)
    Posted 15 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spectacularly incompetent.
    306) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088097)
    Posted 14 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarg, well spoken, but there is still a lab rat who makes background noise.


    I echoed Eco.
    307) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088039)
    Posted 14 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, lab rat


      The cult of tradition. This is the belief that the truth is already known once and for all. Fascists believe there is no need to advance in learning.
      The rejection of modernism. Fascists reject the Enlightenment and its evidence-based rationality.
      The cult of action for action’s sake. Fascist leaders act impulsively, without thinking or planning ahead.
      No analytical criticism. Fascists ignore nuance and see any disagreement as treasonous.
      Fear of difference. Fascists fear diversity. Thus they are racist by definition.
      Appeal to a frustrated middle class. An economically frustrated and/or politically marginalized middle class is easy to stir to anger.
      Obsession with a plot. Because the followers must be made to feel besieged, an internal “enemy” is provided: Immigrants, Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks. (Historically the Jews were often made to be “the enemy.”)
      Anti-elitism. The followers are made to feel humiliated by the wealth and strength of the educated “elite.” This is used to create resentment.
      Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. Fascists believe that life is permanent warfare. Therefore a desire for peace is treasonous.
      Contempt for the weak. A fascist leader despises his underlings, who in turn despise those under them. They all either mock or ignore the poor, the sick, and the disabled.
      The cult of heroism. The Fascist is eager to die a hero’s death. In his impatience, he frequently sends other people to their deaths.
      Machismo. Fascists show disdain for women, disregard for chastity, and condemnation of homosexuality.
      Selective populism. Under fascism, the “voice of the people” is not the democratic majority, but only the voices of those who support the leader.
      Ur-fascism speaks Newspeak. Just as in Orwell’s 1984, Fascists use an impoverished vocabulary and an elementary syntax to limit complex and critical reasoning.

    308) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2088035)
    Posted 14 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yet. Continuing to Listen.
    We're compiling a very important thesis and you're 1 of the test subjects so we must.


    Echo, Umberto?
    309) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087965)
    Posted 13 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Finally, Garland's doing something.
    310) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2087949)
    Posted 12 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Transfer is Based on This, and Implicated by your Statement - So Easy -There Would be 100s of Times MORE Infection. And Death.

    Just how many are face to face with a WT? What percent of WT are infected? OBTW do you think WT get it by some other method than via air? If so, please state the method so we can prevent human to human transmission via that method.

    We know millions of humans have gotten it via air.


    Fashiontas gamble with lives, happiness, and even destiny itself!
    We know what the fashionistas we';; do next.
    We have their play book.
    311) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2087938)
    Posted 12 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Please state the method so we can prevent human to human transmission via that method.


    Gubmint mandates don't work! We need 2 create nu religion to 10 commandment against it! How bout we call Ghostbusters? I mean, call nu religion MAGA? 1st Commandment of MAGAism: no transmission with white tailed deer cept thru air.
    312) Message boards : Politics : With this covid will never go away (Message 2087921)
    Posted 12 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Core belifes = antiscience, but it doesn.t matter because you have been cancelled.


    We sciencies already be the am cancelled.
    313) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087843)
    Posted 10 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We need to know if Brandon is pro bacon


    We know what's coming because we know what a fashionista would do next.
    314) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2087842)
    Posted 10 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And liars.
    Crooks and liars.
    FILLED the swamp.
    315) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087808)
    Posted 10 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is SUPERJOkE Still Prez?

    Wat a WHACK

    Yep

    Yep, Joe likes bacon.


    Nah, trumpyber not da prez no more joke ova now that we gots da joe bacon let's go bacon bakin some onesixers? wot wud a fashionista do?
    316) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087777)
    Posted 9 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MurgA
    317) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2087728)
    Posted 9 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lET'S ... EAT ..bacon! With some melania syrup? hee hee
    318) Message boards : Politics : The Larry Elder Thread (Message 2087727)
    Posted 9 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bACON?
    319) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087726)
    Posted 9 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow! BMAA! He DID it!


    bbb. bE BEST LULZ
    320) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087716)
    Posted 8 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow! BMAA! He DID it!
    321) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087669)
    Posted 8 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donny the Job Destroyer so jealous of the Joeness right now. Get your Joeness!
    322) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087549)
    Posted 6 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bacon intersts me more how bout you, are you interested in bacon?
    I like bacon do you?


    I hear MAGA is totally down with bakin', then get hungry, so they bake some bacon after bakin'.
    323) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087533)
    Posted 5 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should Brandon go in his fump truck or some other mode of transport?


    I'm feeling verrry frumpy.
    324) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087525)
    Posted 5 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I vote on foot carrying a cross


    Well, I will one up that and vote from a cross with a foot!
    325) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2087524)
    Posted 5 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nedd Ludd,

    Is dat youz??!


    There has to be a better way.

    Keep searchin'!
    Martin


    Nah, I'm a Lepp. Are ya def?
    326) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2087473)
    Posted 5 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Union Jack is back,
    with a hole in his head.
    Gettin' badly burned
    every time!
    He's laughing at me
    and dancing on my sneakers.
    And his 60s songs
    are blowing up my speakers.

    I say,
    You got no respect.
    Respect for authority.
    You're just playing your dirty tricks
    And then come cryin' to me.

    Well, it's South Yorkshire, but not southern England.

    Let's work at a spoon factory.
    327) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087421)
    Posted 4 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bacon could help you understand.


    Bruoaheim, I totally rolled up some bacon and baked that bacon until I understood.
    OK, not really, but will someone be shrooming in 1-2 months to properly celebrate astrotheological Xmas? Errr, HAPPY HOLIDAZE!!!
    328) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2087396)
    Posted 3 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like with lil' Donny, there will always an excuse.


    Growing up, I was way north. But Appalachin culture stretches to some parts about 240-300 north and east. And one of my neighbors owned a junkyard. Their son turned one of the cars into the General Lee and the horn played Dixie. The "Dukes of Hazzard" TV show was big at the time.

    Somehow I have a doubt that a city boy in a midwestern state where that city is even further north of where I grew up ... soomehow I doubt that person has one lick of experience with the South proper nor Appalachia. (Note, the i is not pronounced.) I doubt that person knows what "this floors needs worshed" means. (No, they didn't say that in my area, but I didn't have to travel far to hear that.)
    329) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087360)
    Posted 3 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Biden lives Dixie Bacon, let's goooo!
    330) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2087359)
    Posted 3 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Somehow I doubt Dixie, or anything else, is sung.
    331) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087290)
    Posted 2 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find discussing bacon to be more interesting.

    Apple Bacon
    Maple Bacon
    Bacon Bacon!


    Let's ... goooo ... Baaacooonnn!

    Bacon's approval rating, on the rise, except for those not paying attention.

    Gas prices plummeting! Plummeting, I tell you!
    332) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087222)
    Posted 1 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have just watched a news report that the Biden administration is going to try to get a bill passed that would give illegal immigrant families separated at the border from other members of their families a check for $450,000 to cover their pain and suffering. A friend told me about this and I didn't believe him. I sure as heck hope that congress doesn't even consider this possibility.


    C'mon, how are you going to find your own senorita if you don't want immigration? Times running down!
    333) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2087200)
    Posted 1 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A bacon deficiensy could very well cause that'
    Yep


    Let's go bacon?
    334) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2087199)
    Posted 1 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, really, people vote for that?!


    Yes. They're pwning da libz so they ken go 2 heavenz.
    335) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2087198)
    Posted 1 Nov 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An abnormally long wait.
    336) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086973)
    Posted 28 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/202674/brown-sugar-bacon-waffles/


    I'm so glad Joe invented the internet waffle! I'm so glad Will.R.Am reads things literally.
    337) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2086972)
    Posted 28 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The writing was already on the wall, but Donny didn't take notice.

    Federal judge in Florida says Trump Twitter case must be heard in California.

    It comes after Donny's requests to invoke executive privilege over a 2nd lot of records fails.


    He has a hard time with "no".
    338) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086954)
    Posted 27 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's go, Joe Bacon!
    339) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086953)
    Posted 27 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Joe likes bacon and you claim to have wrapped a hot dog with bacon, that's not showing a love of bacon.


    I don't mind bacon on a hamburger, Ya know?
    340) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086864)
    Posted 26 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the MBS move


    They say MbS hates bacon.
    No. FEARS bacon.
    Why did Trumpy Bear dance with Saud terrorists?
    Our boy Joe ain't gonna dance with no terrorists!
    341) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086860)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That probably precludes crispy bacon


    Beggin' Strips!
    342) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2086859)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've know for a while that Russia's Sputnik V is a poor performer (as well as China's efforts), but now there's another twist to it that has lead to it being banned. :-O

    Namibia suspends use of Russian COVID vaccine after S.Africa flags HIV concerns.

    Namibia will suspend the rollout of Russia's Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine, its health ministry said on Saturday, days after the drugs regulator in neighbouring South Africa flagged concerns about its safety for people at risk of HIV.
    And what sort of state Surgeon General is this?

    Top Florida health official asked to leave meeting with lawmaker for refusing to wear mask.

    1 that I wouldn't want that's for sure and then there's this waste of space with more totally false and unsupportable B.S..

    Roger Stone Claims COVID Vaccination Has 'Injured or Killed Millions of Americans'.

    Is he still running around with that bunch of proudless infants protecting his stupidity or has he changed over to the oathbreakers now?


    Let us suppose that "millions" is exactly 1 million. With a population of 330 million and assuming that neither the vaccinated nor the observers are in any way special, this would mean for each of us in the US on average 1 out of 330 people we know have died in the last 9 months or so. Funny, no one I know has died in the last 9 months or so. But, our family did lose someone considered family since the early 80s, to CVD9, September 2020.
    343) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2086858)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe he's working on a comic strip for us?
    344) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086849)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do Carlson and Trump like bacon?


    It's baaaconnn! Num, num, num!
    345) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086846)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get yer coffee here! Coffee! Coffee! Get yer coffee here! None of the Starbucks crap Carlson & Trump want you to have to drink ... like, forever.
    346) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2086845)
    Posted 25 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess he didn't want to post evidence.
    347) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086724)
    Posted 23 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Checking in for some morning Joe!
    348) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2086723)
    Posted 23 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Discovered at last, a case of voter fraud and guess what it's by a Republican.
    Las Vegas executive faces voter fraud charges in 2020 election


    "He" told them to commit it.
    349) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2086698)
    Posted 23 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Myth #2: gas prices temporarily go down when Kimberly Guilfoyle fills up. Or, is the Ivanka? A few seconds after replacing the pump, prices go back up.
    350) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2086692)
    Posted 22 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You may also post random feels.
    351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2086677)
    Posted 22 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like Mrs. Miggins and Sidney to me!
    352) Message boards : Politics : Alternative gas facts (Message 2086675)
    Posted 22 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post fake news on gas prices here! Please provide altered/misleading graphs to weaken your point.
    353) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086654)
    Posted 22 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't think so. Curtailment of fracking and cancelling of pipe lines has led to near term peaks in oil prices and they are still going up. I don't see any stabilization . Gas up another 20cents here in Tenn.

    Hard to accept arguments against what I see happening.

    Forgot my vow not to discuss politics with the convinced.


    DO NOT b..s. me.
    Do NOT call me your slur "the convinced".
    *I* see prices here HAVE NOT GONE UP IN MONTHS. Do NOT lie to me!!!


    Fascinating. Look at the five year chart, my fellow unconvinced ones.

    https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts

    Let us speak with evidence ... data, not blind party obedience.
    354) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086586)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't think so. Curtailment of fracking and cancelling of pipe lines has led to near term peaks in oil prices and they are still going up. I don't see any stabilization . Gas up another 20cents here in Tenn.

    Hard to accept arguments against what I see happening.

    Forgot my vow not to discuss politics with the convinced.


    DO NOT b..s. me.
    Do NOT call me your slur "the convinced".
    *I* see prices here HAVE NOT GONE UP IN MONTHS. Do NOT lie to me!!!
    355) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086580)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your exception has been noted.


    Annnd ... https://www.google.com/search?q=world+gas+prices&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS886US886&oq=world+gas+prices&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l4j0i390l4.2761j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.
    356) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086575)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Joe for a 50% increase in the price of a gallon of gas.


    LOL!
    Both the drop and the increase occurred under Trump.
    The increase continued for a while under Biden and has been stable for months.
    Trump only got gas prices (lol, presidents you like only have control over gas prices when you like the gas prices) under where they were when Obama left due to a pandemic and then started raising them again.

    I previously took your posts with nuance.

    Now, I shall not.
    357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2086544)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ditto


    358) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2086543)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or bacon


    Iiiit'sss baaacon!
    359) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2086542)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For UK over 50's, http://www.nhs.uk/covid-vaccination to book you booster vaccination.

    I got a booking for Sunday morning.


    Durn it, I'm only 33 and in Thailand.
    360) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086541)
    Posted 21 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “So, my question is: You’ve had 84 days since that interview [on Spectrum News] to go back and check the records. So, when did you speak with the former President on January 6th?” McGovern asked.
    361) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2086460)
    Posted 19 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LIve Free or Die Baby!!!!!!

    Wrong conjunction, it's live free die.


    There's no "liberty & the pursuit of happiness" without "life".
    362) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086459)
    Posted 19 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Biden endorsed DINOs are kicking butt in their campaigns!
    363) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086367)
    Posted 18 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe likes bacon. In moderation.
    Grisham indicates Melanoma also likes bacon, whereas Dumbnald foreswore back upon Donette's marriage to Skeletor.
    364) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086331)
    Posted 17 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Barfed Up My Bacon Wrapped Hot Dog while Watching.

    You poisoned your bacon with a hot dog?
    You just proved karma is a thing.


    It's baaaaacon!
    365) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086264)
    Posted 16 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wat Most People are Eating

    Bacon, yep.


    Exactly. Bacon. Can't choke on bacon.
    366) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086256)
    Posted 15 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nowww he's getting it!
    367) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086246)
    Posted 15 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe!
    368) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2086245)
    Posted 15 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald.
    369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Sabine Schmitz. (Message 2086166)
    Posted 14 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In 2004 she drove a Ford diesel van around the track for a Top Gear episode, lapping in just over 10 minutes — only nine seconds slower than fellow presenter Jeremy Clarkson's best effort in a Jaguar S-type.
    Jeremey was so proud of his effort, and she nearly matched it in a bog standard Ford Transit van.

    She died after a long battle with cancer.
    She was only 51.


    Huh? She S@H crunched?
    370) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086153)
    Posted 13 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, now, if THAT is what you're saying I ...

    still couldn't read it.
    371) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086104)
    Posted 12 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Look, I said Biden thinks it is ok for you to have bacon. He's against the stoning thing, but he won't stop it.
    It's your side that's against stoner bacon.
    Live with it, bruoaheim.
    P.S.-I don't actually know what you said.
    372) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086067)
    Posted 12 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Being the strongly most consistent on the planet, Trumpists follow the OT and do not eat bacon. Nor do they boil a baby goat in its mother's milk. When one Trumpist posts on a Sunday, this is work and all other Trumpists get stoned. Joe the Evolving is against stoning, but won't stop you from getting stoned anymore.
    373) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086041)
    Posted 11 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you post after me, I see nothing.
    374) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2086033)
    Posted 11 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woe for those that think that they are missing out on some self imposed divine right according to them being white.

    We can do well without those who wish to uphold those beliefs.


    I thought it was "Woe unto the anointed leader that does not step back into his anointing?"
    375) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085881)
    Posted 9 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Name calling is always a constuctive contribution to the conversation.


    I'll be posting pix of all the celebs I'm chillin with here at the peaceful non-event.
    376) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2085880)
    Posted 9 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly facts don't matter to the skeptics, their beliefs are well set and will not be shaken.


    Fact lives don't matter?
    377) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085853)
    Posted 9 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who else will be staying at Joe Tower this weekend for the 10/9 rally, then headed over for some suds with bikers in Springfield, eh?
    378) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2085851)
    Posted 9 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They told me the Pfizer vaccine early on was about 95% effective, so why did they never tell me it might not protect everyone?

    /sigh
    379) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085681)
    Posted 6 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald is from Mars, Joe is from Pandora.
    380) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085661)
    Posted 6 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe KOOOL, my bruthas and sisters.
    381) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085628)
    Posted 6 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe is better with money than the last guy.
    382) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085561)
    Posted 5 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Restore Joe's Facebook, now, Zuckerberg!!!
    383) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2085560)
    Posted 5 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump sues to get his Twitter account restored, claiming tech giant caved into pressure from rivals.

    The former US president asked a federal judge in Florida to request Twitter restore his account – which was removed nearly 10 months ago, The Sun reports.

    Mr Trump has now filed a request for a preliminary injunction against Twitter in the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida.
    I wonder if he'll also get told, like others have been of late, to take it to a Californian court.


    Trump's request can eat dust.
    384) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085536)
    Posted 4 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top with Joe?
    Top o' the free worlds to ye?
    385) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085505)
    Posted 3 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't Joe just the bestest?
    386) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2085504)
    Posted 3 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The difference is, we recognize the creeping fascism while they still can't define socialism.
    387) Message boards : Politics : Are Germans; Dutch; Irish; Scottish; and English People TAKING ADVANTAGE of US of A Open Borders? (Message 2085503)
    Posted 3 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I see an open bored-er, I'll let you know.
    388) Message boards : Politics : Are Germans; Dutch; Irish; Scottish; and English People TAKING ADVANTAGE of US of A Open Borders? (Message 2085447)
    Posted 2 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey!

    The USA needs ALL the character it can get!!


    Keep searchin'!
    Martin


    Hence, send yer Welsh lassies!
    Kinna change the laws of physics, unless in the wessels in Alameda.
    389) Message boards : Politics : Are Germans; Dutch; Irish; Scottish; and English People TAKING ADVANTAGE of US of A Open Borders? (Message 2085396)
    Posted 1 Oct 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...but the Welsh can't.
    Now there's a bit of really good news, no more Welsh entering the USA ;-)


    Send the incels yer Welsh lassies?
    390) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2085254)
    Posted 30 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's Cardboard, man!
    391) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2085253)
    Posted 30 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're happy with your corner coffee shop?
    Joe Biden wants to make you drink Starbucks
    from now
    until forver
    ?

    Uh huh, lil Tuck'?

    But Starbuck returned to the angels 150000 years ago?!
    392) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2085252)
    Posted 30 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A booster shot every Sunday, lil Tuck'? Uh huh?
    393) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2085247)
    Posted 30 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You do realize I see nothing.
    In other news, who has more funny lil Tucker quotes or do I have to find them all?
    394) Message boards : Politics : Tucker Says the Darndest Things! (Message 2085227)
    Posted 29 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello, and welcome to the inaugural episode of "Tucker (Carlson) says the darndest things!" I'm your host, Sarge. In our first clip, lil Tucker claims no one voted for Kathy Hochul. Is lil Tucker suggesting she's an illegitimate governor? Or is he decrying his ignorant fanbase voted for Puffy Daddy Combover Cuomo but didn't realize, should P Diddy resign, the Lt. Gov. on the ticket would succeed him? Is lil Tucker's comment an indictment on his fanbase's understanding of civics? Stay tuned!
    395) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085194)
    Posted 29 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A country boy can survive. And keep JOE ON TOP!
    396) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085186)
    Posted 28 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe's on top, make ur mind pop don't stop. Flip flop, flopping Trump takin' a dump like a chump in need of a fist bump lookin like a lump ... he's lump ... he's lump.
    397) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085132)
    Posted 28 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Breaking news!
    Joseph R. Biden has now stated he "has lost all patience" and, like Trump's buddy the Filipino president, is going to "allow you to die" (if you so choose). The death panels are finally here!
    /sarcasm

    For you anti-Kevorkianists, time to live up to your principles, if you ever really had any.
    398) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2085130)
    Posted 28 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Entry into MY BLOODSTREAM became VERBOTEN, unless I Said So.


    So says Ellen White, "scientist"?
    399) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2085113)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... So, I'm Askin': How Many CV Shots a year Would a Person Care to Take to Protect themselves and Others?...

    I'm in there immediately as soon as summonsed for the booster!

    No brainer really.

    I've seen various of my friends and some others succumb to a blast of COVID. Very definitely not pleasant. Various expletives of anguish uttered by some. Along with various other comments of dismay about a lingering loss of taste and smell spoiling all food and beer. Also complaints of lingering headaches and a sense of dreamy (non-fun) drunken fuzziness for a time afterwards. Very definitely not pleasant.

    The choice of risking that, or becoming a recluse, or suffering a teeny weeny little jab?

    Totally a no brainer. I'm going for the booster jab as soon as called.


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    But!
    But!
    The vaccine is based on the SARS vaccine.
    With technology at least 10 years old!
    That's TOTALLY way to rushed. Right?
    /sarcasm
    400) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085112)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jab it!
    Jab it good!
    Jab it real good!
    When the virus be spreadin
    smart ppl be jabbin.
    an' ignorant people
    sitting there, jabbrin.
    401) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085103)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who be jabbin' with Biden, yo?
    No Elder Jabbin, but jabs for the elderly.
    Don't need to pipe for this jab.
    402) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2085102)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the other news, the fake news, the conservative rag in Alexandria best stop spam mailing. Otherwise I'll get my GOPer uncle who helps them campaign on their asses. He's just a few miles away. Get ready "Conservative Direct" or "Conservative Action" or whatever the heck you call yourself.
    403) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2085074)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe on top! Top o the wooorld!
    404) Message boards : Politics : The Larry Elder Thread (Message 2085073)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In other news ... .
    405) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2085072)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What? You can't find enough volunteers for that bucket line yet?


    Volunteers? They don't even give to charities or churches!
    406) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2085071)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you don't want to get the jab for yourself or your family then how about getting it for your animal friends?

    Ferret tests positive for coronavirus in Florida.


    Ah, we finally find the thing GOPer jokers care about, da feRre+s!
    407) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2085070)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thought a VA guy could spot an NYC conman. Guess not. Sigh.
    408) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2085069)
    Posted 27 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll be honest about something. Something GOP'ers can't do. (Rhymes with jokers.)
    I was receiving text messages last fall, supposedly from 1 or 2 states I used to live in.
    Obviously, it was enough of a hassle just to go to the drop box, so of course I didn't vote in more than the state I'm in currently.
    How the heck they even got my number, plus not realize it was not an area code for their state, is beyond me.
    409) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084986)
    Posted 25 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Audit confirms that Trump lost by a little more than 1st thought. In other news, I love you Joe, welcome to Costco.
    410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Selecting Seti in Boinc (Message 2084821)
    Posted 23 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Forget it. SETI will never come back again. And when the scientific papers of "nothing found" is published, this board and the entire SETI site, will be gone too.
    Just face it, SETI as a project is over for good.


    Alrighty, then! Had to be grumpy, eh? Allow me to be, at the same time, Sargey about this and maintain agnosticism.
    411) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084809)
    Posted 22 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boris has challenged Biden & Macron to settle their differences via a game of Krikkit. If they agree, the game shall take place on Krakafoon.
    412) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084803)
    Posted 22 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #InvestigateTrumpFlatEconomy
    413) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2084752)
    Posted 22 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heard yesterday at the pub, "I'm not putting that swill in my body!"
    Ain't been to a pub since the first week of March 2020. Not even much in the 3 months before that. NYE celebration seemed haunted. Not that I'm psychic. Or ... am I? No. No, I am not.
    So you have a good big beer fridge as well Sarge?


    I moved about 2 months ago and, actually, the fridge here holds more general. (Surprised I wasn't able to wait until this was over, but life happens.) And, I must admit, some alcohol goes in this fridge. I wish it didn't. But, again, life happens.
    414) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084751)
    Posted 22 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    exploit the scientific method for political hay [which only works for those that have rejected science]


    I declare, I say, I do declare, there's nothing but dark matter in dem lib'rul minds! :)
    415) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2084750)
    Posted 22 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm sure the three letters are having a field day.


    Not
    D
    J
    T
    ?
    416) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2084694)
    Posted 21 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heard yesterday at the pub, "I'm not putting that swill in my body!"


    Ain't been to a pub since the first week of March 2020. Not even much in the 3 months before that. NYE celebration seemed haunted. Not that I'm psychic. Or ... am I? No. No, I am not.
    417) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084639)
    Posted 20 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They'll deny that deportations have begin again.
    Meanwhile, "mainstream" media adopts Republican talking points (calling it a crisis for Biden), as they often do, but Republicans watch them less and less.
    Similarly, "confusion about booster shots"? Ummm, I'm not confused. It was clear Biden suggested one thing, our medical "elements" disagreed in general and that we were supposed to wait for the elemental words. Elemental words have now come down from heaben.
    418) Message boards : Politics : The Larry Elder Thread (Message 2084638)
    Posted 20 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Given the party flip of 5-6 decades ago, there's good reason for remaining independent.
    419) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2084637)
    Posted 20 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump may have succeeded in decreasing GOP turnout.
    420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2084536)
    Posted 18 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh. And wear a mask plus get the vaccine.
    421) Message boards : Politics : The Larry Elder Thread (Message 2084535)
    Posted 18 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Conservatives consider liberals well-intentioned, but misguided. Liberals consider conservatives not only wrong, but really, really bad people.

    Seriously? For at least 30 years, the slurs against anyone further left of a conservative have moved towards and now flat out call the left evil!
    422) Message boards : Politics : The Larry Elder Thread (Message 2084521)
    Posted 17 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bad Larry, bad Larry. What's he gonna do next when Trumpy comes for his do?
    423) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084478)
    Posted 17 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm guessing we will have our first female president real soon.


    I'm not.
    424) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2084477)
    Posted 17 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tut, tut Sarge, you disappoint. You ever heard of the "Greatest Generation"
    Just in case you haven't:
    1939-45


    You really think I haven't heard of the "greatest" generation?
    Tut tut instead to the lack of specificity regarding "this" country", type of lockdown, for what reason, etc. ... .
    425) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084349)
    Posted 15 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JOEy Openly HATEs and DIVIDEs Citizens of U S of A.
    Nah, ya got it wrong there.

    Joe's just operating the header to separate all the goodness from the near on useless chaff. ;-)


    If that were the case, he wouldn't be urging his non-supporters to get vaccinated.
    Welcome to bipartisan I love you Joe World.
    426) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2084348)
    Posted 15 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More than 300,000 suspected of breaking quarantine
    But Conservative MP Huw Merriman, chair of the Transport Committee, said: "There was a balancing act from government... would we have had the resources to check every single person who was quarantining at home? Of course not - so we always knew those risks were in the system".
    Bull!
    Said it before.
    No computers
    No smartphones
    No CCTV
    Yet...
    ...this country was locked down for 6 years effectively.
    I suppose "entitlement" takes precedence.


    6 years? Which country is that? NK?
    427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2084158)
    Posted 11 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wash your hands.
    Don't touch your face.
    Wear a mask or maintain 18-24 feet distance.
    Get the vaccine.
    Best support possible.
    428) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084155)
    Posted 11 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Choices, they have got consequences.
    They also have got price tags.

    Chose wisely.


    Death cultists love body bag tags.
    I love Joe. Welcome to Costco.
    429) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084147)
    Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, darn, did I post in the two threads in a specific order.
    Welcome to Joe World. I love you.
    Welcome to Joe World. I love you.
    430) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2084146)
    Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must VAX!

    Joe baby, only thing missing is what the right would demand, NO VAX and no WELFARE! Then they would be leading the bandwagon!


    No more corporate welfare.
    431) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2084145)
    Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Christie: trump betrayed oath.
    Melanoma's assistant, writing tell-all. Madagascar should've fired her sooner.
    432) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2084144)
    Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No point in pumping or piping until you've got the supply (reservoirs) sorted out. And that's where the NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard) will object.


    But we 'Murkans love dat pipe! Yo-ep!
    433) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2084143)
    Posted 10 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/10/new-study-finds-unvaccinated-are-11-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-cdc-says-.html
    Key Points

    More than 600,000 Covid cases from April through mid-July were analyzed and linked to vaccination status.
    Those who were unvaccinated were about 4.5 times more likely to contract the virus, more than 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with the virus, and 11 times more likely to die from the disease.
    About 54% of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

    There is only one logical conclusion.
    GET VACCINATED

    The numbers have been crunched the CONTROL GROUP is no longer needed.


    A high school friend of mine was in the control group. So, he had to go get the real vaccine later. P.S.: he works for NASA.
    434) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2083988)
    Posted 9 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He'd do even better if it wasn't for Donny's crazy RINO collaborators. ;-)


    +42, except this isn't an SEP field.
    435) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2083987)
    Posted 9 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He must be The Saddest, right about now.
    436) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2083986)
    Posted 9 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aw, DeSaddist won't be getting his stimulation from the suffering masses tonight.


    Unlike de Sadist, we're always here to speak over the unhelpful.
    437) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2083976)
    Posted 8 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poor Ron.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-florida-cant-enforce-ban-172823591.html
    438) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2083971)
    Posted 8 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ladies & gentlemen, I present to you ... the Amazing ... JOE!!!
    439) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2083770)
    Posted 5 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All in an overly greedy world...

    Greed, it is the fiduciary duty to the shareholder. The sole reason a corporation exists.


    I love Joe. And lamp. I also love lamp.
    Stay classy, San Diego?
    440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 108 (Message 2083702)
    Posted 4 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    atoms


    Quark
    441) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2083683)
    Posted 3 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    gotta build the pump before you build the pipe


    Only chumps pump then go for the pipe?
    442) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2083648)
    Posted 2 Sep 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... not to worry as I have previously posted, [Q Anon] has stated you will get your manditory covid vacine which has the 5G mind controlling microchip which Bill Gates had developed. The overlords led by George Soros will have you rendered compliant and you will be happy wearing a mask!

    ... And that is just one of the less imaginative 'simple' Conspiracies...

    Where's all the UFOs and leprechauns and Boojumwoojits??...


    Instead, stay real in the real world?

    Far simpler than the fanciful Conspiracies, by far!


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    Aliens that in their holograms look like reptiloid leprechauns invented COVID-19 and spread it via neo-panspermia to make Joe Biden look bad?
    443) Message boards : Politics : PIPE (Message 2083405)
    Posted 30 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nancy said No Pipe.
    444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2083403)
    Posted 30 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back Mark.


    And to Snodgrass, as well.


    Shall Miggins arise like The Phoenix?
    445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : COVID support thread............. (Message 2083227)
    Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back Mark.


    And to Snodgrass, as well.
    446) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2083226)
    Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see it clearly, and my vision is poor. So, why are some having that option removed???
    447) Message boards : Politics : Red-x discussions (Message 2083216)
    Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Next

    I didn't detach some of my computers.
    We were TOLD some straggling WUs may occasionally be sent out
    WERE WE NOT???
    448) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2083215)
    Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    0.49
    Debunked!
    449) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2083130)
    Posted 27 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The persecution complex beatings shall continue until morale improves!
    450) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2083039)
    Posted 25 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why oh why do the press have to 'over-simplify' or otherwise dumb-down far too far?...


    Covid infection protection waning in double jabbed
    wrote:
    Researchers say they are seeing some waning of protection against Covid infections in double-jabbed people.

    The real-world study includes data on positive Covid PCR test results between May and July 2021 among more than a million people...

    ... Protection after two shots of Pfizer decreased from 88% at one month to 74% at five to six months. For AstraZeneca, the fall was from 77% to 67% at four to five months. Waning protection is to be expected, say experts.

    Although some breakthrough infections may be happening, vaccines are still doing a very good job at protecting people against severe Covid illness and deaths...

    ... estimates that around 84,600 deaths and 23 million infections have been prevented as a result of the Covid-19 vaccination programme in England so far...


    What isn't explained there is that what 'it is' that is 'waning' are the front line antibodies that your immune system produces for an infection.

    Meanwhile, what is just as important is that the longer lasting 'memory' part of your immune system will still be primed to produce new antibodies quickly for any new infection. You still get a 'head start' to head off or at least recover from infection far faster than without the vaccine.


    A further part to the story not mentioned in that article is that good healthy caution is still needed to stay healthy!

    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    CDC May or so announcement about masks, states removing mandates very quickly after: caution went to the wind for many!
    451) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2082625)
    Posted 18 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not sure if this has been covered already but this article 'popped up' whilst checking for the effectiveness of responses to the COVID pandemic:


    Trump lied about science
    wrote:
    Science 18 Sep 2020:
    Vol. 369, Issue 6510, pp. 1409

    When President Donald Trump began talking to the public about coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in February and March, scientists were stunned at his seeming lack of understanding of the threat...

    ... Now, because ... recorded him, we can hear Trump's own voice saying that he understood precisely that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was deadly and spread through the air. As he was playing down the virus to the public, Trump was not confused or inadequately briefed: He flat-out lied, repeatedly, about science to the American people. These lies demoralized the scientific community and cost countless lives...


    Wow!

    Ya can't get clearer than that!



    Don't get sacrificed...

    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    ... = what, Woodward, correct?
    452) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2082459)
    Posted 17 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, amazingly, even smallpox had its shared of anti-vaxxers. Happily they did not prevail which is why the worst disease ever is extinct. Perhaps this one will be too someday, I hope.

    There is now a segment of society that wants to be stupid and attempt to suicide the entire human race. They don't see a future and intend to be sure there isn't one for anyone else.

    But! But! Isn't the fyouture up in da heben's place in da sky?
    Its the apocalypse!


    They need brain juice?
    453) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #8 (Message 2082440)
    Posted 16 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, amazingly, even smallpox had its shared of anti-vaxxers. Happily they did not prevail which is why the worst disease ever is extinct. Perhaps this one will be too someday, I hope.

    There is now a segment of society that wants to be stupid and attempt to suicide the entire human race. They don't see a future and intend to be sure there isn't one for anyone else.


    But! But! Isn't the fyouture up in da heben's place in da sky?
    454) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2082385)
    Posted 16 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once again I say that there should be an upper age limit for those that lead/govern.
    IMV, it should be 70 (or younger). Too often it has been old men in power that cost their nation's citizens their lives.
    On 8 July, President Joe Biden poured cold water on the theory that the Taliban could swiftly conquer Afghanistan.
    "The jury is still out," he said, speaking at the White House last month.
    "But the likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely."
    Yet, just weeks after this pronouncement, little of the country remains in government control.
    It is "reported" that both the President & VP have fled the country.
    "The president of the United States said, 'As you stood with us, we will stand with you'. So right now, where are they?"
    Omar applied for a US visa in 2016, but was rejected for what the US embassy called a "lack of faithful and valuable service".
    Now, Omar believes the Taliban's punishment will be worse for translators, despite a spokesman saying there will be "no revenge".
    "There's no mercy for the linguists," he says. "The Taliban has said before, interpreters were the eyes and ears of the Americans - so the punishment will be different for us.
    "As an interpreter I saved many American lives. So, they've really left me behind. Now I'm about to be killed, as is my family."
    Can't make the comment I want to on that as this country is just as bad.


    And ... this has what precisely to do with his ... age?
    455) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082384)
    Posted 16 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Food for thought...
    Spick & Span (1962)
    ...has outsourcing damaged society to the point that epidemics/pandemics spread so fast?
    When it was in-house, it had firm oversight.
    Now...


    We leave the K off on this side of the pond.
    Had the pandemic originated in the city of Spic 'n' Span headquarters, how would the rest of the world get Spic 'n' Span for several weeks for months?
    We need some level of decentralization, so that when one node fails, another might be able to pick up the slack.
    Just no Wolf 359, please.
    456) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082383)
    Posted 16 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Covid doesn't get you and antivaxer will.


    It goes without saying that they cry "medical tyranny" while supporting the former guy. The former guy that loved tyrants. That did some tyrannical things. That was on his way to realizing his tyrant dreams.
    457) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082234)
    Posted 13 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now if this is true then I'm totally flabbergasted as we've been doing regular sewage sampling at all of our treatment plants here since the HIV days. :-O

    Sewage is the latest disease detection tool for Covid-19.

    It has come in handy a few times here for a variety of disease outbreaks. Even this little country village's water treatment plant sends off regular samples to be tested.


    Was happening at a university in Utah last year.
    458) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082195)
    Posted 13 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wonder what the percents are for that age group across several different countries? Yeah, I know I could look it up, probably a country at a time and, of course, I'm concerned about the USA because that's where I am. But, I'm working on other things and I'm tired.

    Hey Alexa, build Sarge a table of ...

    I don't use them Alexas thingys.
    459) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082161)
    Posted 13 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By 'eck! This has been a positively quick move!


    7 in 10 young people aged 18-29 vaccinated with a first dose
    wrote:
    Young people urged to come forward for both doses to support cautious return to normal life

    Over 70% of young people aged 18 to 29 in England have received a first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine...

    ... A total of 5,940,038 people in this age group have received a first dose (70.2%) and 2,683,434 people have received both doses (32.4%).

    The latest data from Public Health England and Cambridge University shows that vaccines have saved around 84,600 lives as well as preventing 23.4 million infections and 66,900 hospitalisations in England up to 6 August...


    All good stuff but we've still a way to get yet...


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    Wonder what the percents are for that age group across several different countries? Yeah, I know I could look it up, probably a country at a time and, of course, I'm concerned about the USA because that's where I am. But, I'm working on other things and I'm tired.
    460) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2082049)
    Posted 11 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bringing them more internet! Woo hoo!
    461) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2082021)
    Posted 11 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go, go, Joezilla!

    Biden Ramps Up Pressure on Cuba, Abandoning Obama's Approach

    The White House imposed new sanctions against Cuban officials in the past few weeks in response to the arrest of hundreds of protesters who took to the streets in cities across the island nation on July 11. Biden also asked government experts to draw up plans for the United States to unilaterally expand internet access on the island and has pledged to increase support for Cuban dissidents.
    462) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2082007)
    Posted 10 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After 9/11 families told Biden not to attend memorials, FBI could release some secret files. Go, Joe! Release the files! Don't go meet them and do weird light shows.
    463) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2082006)
    Posted 10 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]That's east and south of here now blocked off to us here, westward is our only chance of escape now with the border to the north closed. :-O
    If you can't see it, it doesn't exist!


    What, the closed off to the north border? More than a few miles north, so can't be seen? (Dark humor for dark times.)
    464) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2081836)
    Posted 7 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is going ahead again after last years superspreader event. And the expectations are that 50% more people will attend.
    Meade county in South Dakota only has 37% of its populaHad thistion fully vaccinated.


    I've heard this as well.
    About 500 miles from here.
    465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2081712)
    Posted 5 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen to the thunder! See the thunder. And the rain! Thor MUST have created this!


    Errr, see the lightning. And stuff,
    466) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2081711)
    Posted 5 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I finally heard an explanation for why everyone should wear a mask in public. It appears that people who have been vaccinated and those who have had the disease and recovered can be carriers and still spread the virus.


    Precisely why I've continued to wear a mask 3+ months.
    467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2081673)
    Posted 5 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen to the thunder! See the thunder. And the rain! Thor MUST have created this!
    468) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2081672)
    Posted 5 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I love jiberish.
    So do anti-vaxes, far right extremists, right wing politicians, crooks and your general outright idiots. ;-)


    W3 anNi3v4X3rs r 'n' R no+ pRo-jibb3r jaBb3r!
    469) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2081442)
    Posted 2 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jim Jones?!

    Jones, Smith ... . ?

    Koresh ...


    Unfortunately, I might resemble that last one.
    470) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2081401)
    Posted 2 Aug 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jim Jones?!


    Jones, Smith ... . ?
    471) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2081109)
    Posted 29 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    dum de dum dum
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-children-cannot-arbitrate-marketing-scam-case-us-appeals-court-2021-07-28/


    https://youtu.be/jRwbtgLQ5No
    Trump = moden day Joseph Smith?

    You're old enough Sarge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6buYYt-bA


    Though I've heard it, it's before my time. But the opening is reminiscent of the SP tune. Well, vice versa.
    472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPHW #307 (Message 2081077)
    Posted 28 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    473) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2081076)
    Posted 28 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    dum de dum dum
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-children-cannot-arbitrate-marketing-scam-case-us-appeals-court-2021-07-28/


    https://youtu.be/jRwbtgLQ5No
    Trump = moden day Joseph Smith?
    474) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2081075)
    Posted 28 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was our latest spike in numbers (and deaths) a consequence of the (maskless, drunken) Euro-football watching/partying?
    Don't forget these...
    Our sickest patients are unvaccinated & under 40. Matthew is fighting for his life...
    Some learn too late...
    ...Self-confessed vaccine sceptic until he caught Covid, if he could turn back time he would.


    Someone should collect all the videos of people saying things like this and make a montage.
    475) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080969)
    Posted 27 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here down under Gladys' continuing "Screw Up" has seen the Sydney cluster blow past 2,200 infections (and spread further) along with 10 deaths at last count and 1 of those deaths was a 38yr old woman with no previous health conditions. :-(

    Even the other states and territories are now Gladys' back to do a proper lockdown and stop her increasingly leaky problem (and I totally agree with them).

    There are now 169 hospitalisations (only 1 elderly woman who only had 1 jab of the vaccine is included in that number) while 46 are now in ICU (all unvaccinated) with 19 of those now on ventilators.

    Across the country there are now in total 205 hospitalisations with 49 in ICU and with 20 of those being on ventilators.

    ATM I'm hitting the supermarket, post office and chemist shop 1st thing of a morning as soon as they open plus I've been staying away from the pub just to be sure that I avoid any out of village disease spreading covidiots that may travel through here trying to escape the state.

    Anyhow stay safe.


    No pub since 3/6/2020.
    And ... I *walked* home.
    476) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080838)
    Posted 25 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Better not type my first thought.
    LA man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines dies of virus
    A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.
    Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine.
    "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.
    ...
    Prior to his death, had joked about the pandemic and vaccines, sharing memes saying he trusted the Bible over top US disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci.


    Apparently he attended a mega-church.

    Maybe he didn't pay his tithes.


    Well, since the god they worship doesn't exist, not paying tithes could only mean one thing. His pastor or financial arm of his church council ... ? :)
    477) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080800)
    Posted 25 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Better not type my first thought.
    LA man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines dies of virus
    A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.
    Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine.
    "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.
    ...
    Prior to his death, had joked about the pandemic and vaccines, sharing memes saying he trusted the Bible over top US disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci.


    Apparently he attended a mega-church.
    478) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2080799)
    Posted 25 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    String theory at work shows us alternate universes.
    Yep


    Joe's not stringy! He's got branes colliding with other branes, creating new universes and revitalizing Muriqua!!!
    479) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2080705)
    Posted 23 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    VAXX Versus UNVAXXed. Gunna Get UGLY.

    Yep watching those unvaxed die will be ugly


    [sarcasm]Hello, this is your favorite 45th president, Donald J. Trump SIR! Operation Warp Speed continues apace. VAXed libturds dropping like FLIES! Flies, I tell you. Believe me!]/sarcasm]
    480) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080653)
    Posted 22 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't forget the joint 10 to 1's Pfizer & Moderna for causing bran inflammations.


    Reading this thread inflames my brain ... in the membrane.
    481) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080604)
    Posted 22 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Report: "Kids and skinny people are dying from COVID."
    MTG: "You guys are cracking me up! Look, people are responsible for their own health."
    Yeah, MGT, 5 year olds are responsible for their own health. That's what family values now means, eh?
    482) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080422)
    Posted 20 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got to ask:
    220 countries (along with 2 ships)

    What/why/how for the 2 ships?!
    Cruise ships that were not allowed to dock at the time.

    Yes, docking rights denied, no entry, drop your anchor in international waters.


    .Makes one wonder why Trump didn't declare all waters international waters. as that would've made his early "number go down".
    483) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080421)
    Posted 20 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No problem. Just forced me to recheck & confirm my memories.
    Something I think all politicians do not have.
    They have very good memories of who gives them donations.



    Mitch McConnell, meet your memory!
    "Do you ... uhhhh, mean ... uhhh. the donors that .... uhhh, finally decided to try to ... uhhh, thin the populaton .... not realizing ... uhhh, that means ... uhhh, less people to profit off ... .uhhh, of?"
    484) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2080219)
    Posted 17 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was Trump!
    https://news.yahoo.com/allen-weisselbergs-ex-daughter-law-145713173.html


    Interesting. Trying to think of rebuttals, like she has an axe to grind, one would think it would be against Barry, Or Allen. Not Allen's noss. Yes or no?
    485) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080187)
    Posted 16 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Media hysteria?
    Scientific bickering?
    Pharmaceutical propaganda?
    Who knows?
    Haven't trusted SAGE since they appointed Cummings & his B/S. About the only good thing in that report is:
    Despite estimates suggesting half of people given the jab would still be vulnerable to getting infected, all of the jabs offer high levels of protections against hospitalisation and death.


    Last line was my earlier point.
    486) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080186)
    Posted 16 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wear your mask again.


    Haven't stopped in most situations. Swimming at work is about the only mask-less time when around people.
    487) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2080029)
    Posted 15 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My worse concerns have become fact.
    Whether or not it is an isolated incident is now the question.
    Overheard a conversation in the office so asked my supervisor, it is true.
    A work colleague caught Covid from her boyfriend so is now self isolating & has being doing so for close to 2 weeks now.
    Hmm, they kept that quiet..
    The issue is - She has had both jabs.
    So...


    I have heard no one of repute stating that someone fully vaccinated say one will not catch the coronavirus after. The question is, how bad will the disease get for her?
    488) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2080028)
    Posted 14 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    turn about is fair play
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/05/mitch-mcconnell-joe-biden-obstruction

    Nope.

    That is all just childishly stupid blind vandalism.

    Out of spite or worse, are the Republicans hell bent on sinking their own ship to damn themselves and the rest of the USA, all just to spite the Democrats?

    Crazy.


    Stay safe folks!!
    Martin

    Well, it's the U.S .
    New book maybe: "The suicide of a Nation".
    Nuff said.


    Of course.
    Why you do you think, on the right, politicians and pundits that are likely vaccinated are bad-mouthing in front of constituents? They want more deaths, to make our darling Joe look bad.
    489) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2080027)
    Posted 14 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your Speech Today. Certified You as CRAZY WHACKO.
    Only to the crazy wackos of this world. ;-)


    Is it possible the person you are responding to has never met a "crazy whacko"? The probability seems pretty low. Maybe "crazy whacko" is being defined differently? Perhaps we should abide by the DSM? Oh, wait. Last I heard, if it's a shared delusion such as a religion, it's still not "crazy whacko". It has to be an individual delusion.
    490) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2079808)
    Posted 12 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I read what ML1 quoted as claims that the vaccinated engage in all sorts sorts of other risky behaviors. I want to know what the scientific evidence is for such claims.
    491) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2079803)
    Posted 12 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many Vaccinnated and preach costantly to VAX:

    This is all a question of scale, how many people, and consequences upon how many other people...

    Are we sociable and cooperative and happy to help each other out?

    Or is it uncaring dog-eat-dog and everyone else go get damned?...

    What works better?...


    Drink and Drive?

    Dangerous to the perpetrator. That one drunk then kills an innocent family in a vehicle crash...


    Smoke 2,3, 4 Packs of Cigs a Day?

    Usually kills the perpetrator with an unhealthy death. Unpleasant smell for all around. Expensive for everyone else for any social care costs for that smoker.


    Are Extremely Obese?

    Usually kills the perpetrator with an unhealthy death. Expensive for everyone else for any social care costs to nurse the perpetrator along.


    Never Exercise?

    That one is of little consequence to others.


    Drive their cars too fast in residential areas; and all Other Roads and Hiways while talking on phone and barely watching road?

    Same as for drunk driving but with added recklessness and added consequences against others for a deadly crash.


    How many Nod off while driving?

    Too many!... With deadly consequences... One notable example is our Selby crash where one sleepy road driver 'took out' two entire trains with great death and mayhem... Consequences.


    Continue to do harmful illegal drugs or legal drugs to harmful excess?

    Same as smoking but worse/faster/sooner...


    The List of 'Doings' harmful to Health and Life of Doers and Ones purposely or 'accidently 'Done To' by da 'Doer' is Extremely Long.

    All up to your imagination.

    Instead, why not try the simple beautiful commandment for the good of yourself and for all around: "Love (be considerate/kindly towards) thy neighbor (fellow man/woman)".


    Yet before their VAX and After their VAX they continue with these Uncountable 'Doings' Harmful to Life and Limb.

    Hmmmm

    Yep

    The consequences of all those listed deadly ills are for a single localized event. The consequences are against a few unfortunate victims and yourself, all at only one place.


    This is all in stark contrast to, the consequences of not getting vaccinated and so spreading the COVID infection... One uncaring/unaware person can go on to infect very many other people to make for a lot of new victims. From that, some will die, some will be left permanently disabled, some suffer long term being ill, and most are made very badly ill but recover.

    The consequences are BIG.

    One recent COVID example is the taxi driver in Australian who has been found to have now directly caused over 100 people to be seriously ill...


    Youz haz consequences!

    Big YEP!


    Stay safe folks!!
    Martin


    How exactly does the questioner know the ones involved in such behaviors are the ones vaccinated? Anecdotal evidence? Confirmation bias?
    492) Message boards : Politics : Don;t know where it should go? Stick it here 3 (Message 2079753)
    Posted 11 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unsure whether to put this in the Trump or the Biden threads, but eventually decided this neutral thread might be best.

    The poll you won't hear much about on Fox news. https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/06/Fox_June-19-22-2021_National_Topline_June-23-Release-1.pdf
    Do you approve or disapprove of the job Joe Biden is doing as president?
    19-22 Jun 21 , Approv - 56%, Disapprove - 43%
    I that must of smarted. LOL


    Am smarted after aliens were killed me. :)
    493) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2079752)
    Posted 11 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now you know why people will die. Utter stupidity.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lauren-boebert-tweet-variant/
    On June 30, 2021, U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colorado, tweeted, “The easiest way to make the Delta variant go away is to turn off CNN. And vote Republican.”

    An excellent example of Darwinism


    I would not doubt this is the endgame. (I cued it up something toward the very end. Feel free to watch the whole thing.)
    494) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2079561)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/09/charlottesville-remove-confederate-monuments-saturday/7917769002/
    495) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079551)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And you know what one of the primary policies of communism is?
    All totalitarian governments, including fascists.


    They claim fascism and communism is the same. Then claim to not be fascists.
    496) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079550)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And you know what one of the primary policies of communism is?
    Of course....control the media, and crush all dissenting opinions.

    Yes and all dictatorships are the same as well. China has banned Western broadcasts to the masses, both Radio, TV, and the Internet. The worlds press is owned by media moguls that only want to push their own agenda.

    Kittyman is right.


    Sort through the contradictions, Chris. Your mind is capable. You will find he is wrong.
    497) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079547)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.’’


    Luke 4: 18.

    References provided because Pat Robertson isn't here and (non-existent Christ) "followers" usually don't read "His" words.
    498) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079546)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled. Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.'


    Luke 6:21.
    499) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079545)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous’


    Luke 14: 12.
    500) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079544)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ‘Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.’


    Mark 12: 43-44.
    501) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079543)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’


    Mark 10:21
    502) Message boards : Politics : Why I don't contribute here anymore..... (Message 2079542)
    Posted 9 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’


    Matthew 25:34-40.
    503) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2079303)
    Posted 6 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump wasn't last.
    C-SPAN - Presidential historians survey 2021


    Sad. Very sad.
    And for clarity, "sad very sad" is something DJT would say.
    504) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2079302)
    Posted 6 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "If there's a problem at the border, yo, Kamala'll solve it. Check out our gooks while my DJt's head's revolving. Ice, Ice, Joey. Joe .. Biden ... Baby."


    That was supposed to say "hooks".
    505) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2079047)
    Posted 1 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like Hunter Biden isn't helping the family reputation any. Sex and drugs on Daddy's credit card.


    Anywho, so you say, just like Tucker says the NSA is spying on him, lulz.
    506) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2079046)
    Posted 1 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "If there's a problem at the border, yo, Kamala'll solve it. Check out our gooks while my DJt's head's revolving. Ice, Ice, Joey. Joe .. Biden ... Baby."
    507) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2079036)
    Posted 1 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like Hunter Biden isn't helping the family reputation any. Sex and drugs on Daddy's credit card.


    JY Young: "Heavy Metal ... Poison-ing!"
    "Dr. Righteous, Righteous, RIghteous!!!"
    508) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2079035)
    Posted 1 Jul 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Where's your crown, King Nothing (Donald)?"
    509) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2078835)
    Posted 28 Jun 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    510) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2078834)
    Posted 28 Jun 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OOPS there goes another one ...
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/rudy-giuliani-suspended-law/index.html


    +1
    511) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2076607)
    Posted 26 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What ever works
    https://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/las-vegas-officials-hold-pop-vaccine-clinic-strip-77848024


    At least one of the vaccine lotteries has people automatically enrolled. When I first heard of the lotteries, I suspected (and annoyed by the possibility) it would only apply to those that were hesitant and need to be enticed by a lottery to dive in, but apparently I was wrong.
    512) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2076305)
    Posted 21 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No surprise there. If one can lie about the election being stolen, there should be no problems to lie about being vaccinated...

    Is ... a topic allowed, here?...

    Very simply:

    Do no harm with your posting, do not incite harm.


    Interesting that the particular baseless, harmful and reprehensible topic goes un-named in the response.

    With that, please leave the medical stuff for the medics!


    Stay safe all,
    Martin


    What does that even mean?
    Are you implying I'm trying to pretend to be a health professional? If so, where are you getting that from?
    I am clearly discussing statistics, thank you very much.

    For "equal" time:

    https://data.cdc.gov/stories/s/Vaccine-Hesitancy-for-COVID-19/cnd2-a6zw
    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/americas-vaccine-hesitant-demographics/
    513) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2076287)
    Posted 20 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All praise to mighty and wise Joseph R. Biden, final arbiter of middle east peace!!!!
    514) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7 (Message 2076284)
    Posted 20 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No surprise there. If one can lie about the election being stolen, there should be no problems to lie about being vaccinated.
    Fear of demographics change seems to be all that's needed to throw truth, democracy, decency, and normal behaviour to he**

    Edit: If there's going to be more of "them", than of "us", then we have no longer any interest in democracy.

    And so, the U.S experiment failed, and ended......


    Is Great Replacement "Theory" going to be a topic allowed, here?
    Besides, posters that can't be named can't link it to vaccines, give the demographics of vaccine hesitancy.
    515) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2076283)
    Posted 20 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, tripped. Now Joe's on top of Donny again, thread-wise,
    516) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2076282)
    Posted 20 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BBC - New York prosecutor says Trump inquiry now 'criminal'


    Occasionally I call these correctly... I've been saying since the election to wait until at least May before any results are forthcoming. This is a large and convoluted investigation and it needs to be done properly. So for those who were expecting him to be arrested as soon as he left the White House: patience. :^p


    Patience is a bit more difficult now, considering a pandemic and an insurrection.
    517) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2076180)
    Posted 19 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess I'm more concerned about the election than you are.
    518) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2076179)
    Posted 19 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right guys - stop going for each other - Setizens are NOT the subject of this thread.


    I smell funny.
    519) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2076060)
    Posted 17 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    does "smelled funny" include a sewage treatment plant on a hot day?


    That and more!
    520) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2076020)
    Posted 17 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, blame Hillary.


    Lock h... ?
    521) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2076016)
    Posted 17 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Missing child tiger from the border now caught and in a cage. THANKS, Obama!
    522) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2076011)
    Posted 16 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Raise your hand if you think DJT smelled funny and added nothing of consequence to discussions.
    523) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075932)
    Posted 15 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Raise your hand if you love Joe and think Representative "He Whom Shall Not be Named" should be impeached?
    524) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2075931)
    Posted 15 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another case of voter fraud has come to light. :-O

    Man suspected of murdering wife charged with Trump vote forgery.

    The husband suspected of killing missing Colorado mother Suzanne Morphew has been charged with forging her vote for Donald Trump five months after she vanished.

    Barry Morphew was arrested last week and charged with murdering 49-year-old Suzanne Morphew, who vanished near their southwestern Colorado home on Mother’s Day last year.

    On the day she vanished a co-worker noticed a “bad” chlorine smell in a room the landscaper was staying in.

    Morphew, 53, has been charged with forgery of a mail-in ballot he allegedly submitted in his wife’s name in last November’s presidential election.

    Voting officials in Chaffee County, 240km from Denver, alerted police last October that they had received a ballot in the name of Suzanne Morphew, even though she was reported as missing.

    The ballot was unsigned, but listed Barry Morphew as a witness.

    Prior to his arrest on suspicion of murder, Morphew allegedly told an FBI officer he knew his wife would have voted for Trump and he “wanted Trump to win” and “figured all these other guys are cheating”.....
    I wonder if he done her in because she refused to vote for delusional Donny and his delusional mob.


    A possibility.
    Boehbert, btw, is from central to western north part of CO. Check out the shape of her district.
    525) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075884)
    Posted 15 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope, not taken out of context.
    Pedantic attempts at defining to distract.
    Yet he had to help barricade the doors.
    526) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075815)
    Posted 13 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rep. Clyde must go.
    527) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075809)
    Posted 13 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Pumps and Valves. C'mon Man!!!!!

    OPEN da Frickin' Valves and START da Frickin' Pumps. Don't tell me a Valve and Pump CANNOT DO THEIR JOB absent Friggin' Computers.


    As one who was involved in the early days of the use of computers to control large chemical plant to an great extent I share your sentiments - we spent a lot of time in making sure that there were adequate manual controls available so that essential valves and pumps could be run to keep the plant running and safe (but probably nowhere near as efficiently as the computer was capable of).
    Also something that really concerns me is the fact that the hackers were able to (remotely) access the control network. Why the <insert adjective of choice> are these systems using "public" communications networks? Why not have their own PRIVATE network completely isolated from the public networks? <screams in despair> This one shut-down has probably cost far more in terms of lost production than each company concerned having their own fully isolated control & monitoring network.


    Well, clearly, "invisible hand" here in da US be sayin' manual override cuts into profits, so we yapped about it and then snapped our fingers and send no to the manual over-ride chaps.
    528) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075769)
    Posted 13 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HIRE Illegal Aliens OOOPs - I mean Hire Wonderful New Citizens lookin' fo a JOB to OPEN Valves and Push a Button. C'mon Man!!!!!

    Hiring for the pipeline is the pipeline's job not the govt's or do you thing the govt. should run the pipeline?

    Sometimes I wonder, then I realize that the followers of the messiah are not real conservatives who want to limit government at all costs, but are in fact closet communist who want to make government bigger at every opportunity.

    I love Messiah Joe.
    529) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075290)
    Posted 8 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yay, lo, I hear him. Even now.
    530) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075237)
    Posted 7 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe talks to me.
    531) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2075160)
    Posted 7 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One to watch...


    Trump Supporters Freak Out After Ivanka Trump Says To Get Vaccinated
    wrote:
    Ivanka Trump posted a picture of herself getting the COVID vaccine this week, and she encouraged her supporters to do the same...




    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    Barbie Doll elitist ain't gonna tell ME what to do! ;)
    532) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2075157)
    Posted 7 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lock up the unvaccinated lazy freeloaders!
    533) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2074872)
    Posted 3 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sloppy Sleepy is WINNING!
    534) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2074868)
    Posted 3 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blame it on Sarge for waking him up. ;-)


    Sleepy Joe has awakened?
    535) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2074867)
    Posted 3 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blame it on Sarge for waking him up. ;-)


    This fails to be about the topic. ;)
    536) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2074829)
    Posted 3 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why does JOkE always SCREAM during his speeches, da Worlds; NOW!!!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! Over and OVer and OVEr.???
    Screaming and Braying does JOkE.

    While BobbleHead Kam a BLAH Bobbles her head behind him.

    Delusion. A Pol never gets anything NOW!!!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!! 'cept their MONIEs fO 'back room' deals with their 'Donors'.

    JOkE

    Yep

    The reason Joe screams is to get people's attention, your posting about it proves by defintion it works unlike the canceled SuperTrump whose only press is the ongoing legal issues he will have for the rest of his life.


    Someone needs a comparison of screaming versus a raised voice.
    537) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2074729)
    Posted 1 May 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen, and pray that what he sings about.
    This country was paid for with blood.
    Mine and yours.
    And now so many of you are spitting on it.
    You are disgusting.
    If you dislike the sitting president, vote against him.
    But in the meantime, show him the respect that the president deserves.
    You are all disgusting in your lack of respect for this nation and all that it represents.


    Puhlease ... put on the big boy pants.
    The GOP stopped being the "party of personal responsibility" LOOOONG ago.


    Oops, I tripped!


    I be trippin yo!
    538) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2074444)
    Posted 28 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I hear the term "cancel culture", I think "largely non-existent".
    539) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2074443)
    Posted 28 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They call themselves Cyber Ninjas. Maybe that says something.
    540) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2074442)
    Posted 28 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, it's the heart and mind that will be distant, lol. Androids will be listening. Fake androids won't be.
    541) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2074272)
    Posted 26 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Karma karma karma con man. The common man c'mon go! C'mon go!
    What ya got, common man?
    Not so common?
    Conman?
    542) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2074105)
    Posted 23 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah, so the lesson here is ... Fow-Chi.
    How Lo-wil-wego?
    543) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2074069)
    Posted 23 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's an Italian surname, not Asian.

    That's debatable. As it originally from Sicily.


    Does Sicily have a dramatically different history of language development apart from the rest of Italy? One so dramatically different that Fauci should be Fow-Chi instead? Or, is it more likely that Fow-Chi was typed as a slur?
    544) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2073973)
    Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's an Italian surname, not Asian.
    545) Message boards : Politics : Where's the Prince Phillip thread? (Message 2073972)
    Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well that's good. I never expected it to be in the "Cafe". Seemed to me to be more suited to politics.


    But it's not.
    546) Message boards : Politics : Positive World News (Message 2073971)
    Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Two very positively inspiring people:


    Greta Thunberg: Meeting David Attenborough was 'indescribable'
    wrote:
    Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg says meeting with fellow campaigner Sir David Attenborough was "indescribable."

    He features in the 18-year-old's new BBC documentary on climate change, A Year to Change the World.

    Speaking to Greg James on the Radio 1 Breakfast show, Greta said Sir Attenborough is the kind of person everyone looks up to...



    Enjoy!

    The world is how we shape it for ourselves.

    Be Excellent to one another!
    Martin


    I joked elsewhere that Barron will eventually meet her, become enamored with her and ask for her hand in marriage.
    547) Message boards : Politics : The empty space where Paul Harvey used to be...................... (Message 2073970)
    Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull yet miss me?
    548) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2073969)
    Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Borat, is dat youz??


    Stay safe folks!
    Martin


    Making never tell time!?
    549) Message boards : Politics : The empty space where Paul Harvey used to be...................... (Message 2073736)
    Posted 18 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How ...
    shall I ...
    fill ...
    these empt...
    -y spaces ...
    where we used ...
    to talk?
    550) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2073735)
    Posted 18 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon common conman make interesting thread more.
    551) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2073444)
    Posted 16 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK who shrunk the GOP?



    https://news.gallup.com/poll/343976/quarterly-gap-party-affiliation-largest-2012.aspx


    It was me.
    Sorry.
    552) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2073443)
    Posted 16 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dominion Voting Machines were created by Christian Dominionists.
    Change my mind.

    Wrong Dominion, it was built by the Ori!


    The Ori are too many lightyears away to have done this.
    553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dustin Diamond, (aka: 'Screech', "Saved by the Bell"), dead at 44 - Cancer. (Message 2073278)
    Posted 14 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R.I.P. :'-(

    44 is MUCH too young to go.

    God Bless his family.


    TL


    When I wake up in the morning
    and the alarm gives off a warning ... .
    554) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2073277)
    Posted 14 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    C'mon con-man, DJT is a great & consistent business/country leader.
    Change my mind.
    555) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2073276)
    Posted 14 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dominion Voting Machines were created by Christian Dominionists.
    Change my mind.
    556) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2072965)
    Posted 9 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know that it's pretty bad when little Donny causes things like this to happen.

    Texas man who stormed Capitol accused of threatening to shoot kids if they turned him in.

    Not only has he broken an already fractured country, but he's broken families.

    Lack of intelligence, education, and living on the edge of a black hole.
    The more I see of all these <censored>, <censored> Yanks, the more I'm convinced the native Americans will soon have their continent back.
    Perhaps a bit radioactive though, unfortunately. It's time for the Yanks to realize, that their so called "experiment" have failed, and failed utterly.
    That of course was inevitable, especially with such a crappy constitution.
    The greatest nation on Earth, yeah sure.....NOT!!

    Reminds me of what v2.0 said about Haiti, and some African countries. I think that statement actually fits the U.S much better.


    It'll be the fault of Dominionists.
    557) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2072547)
    Posted 5 Apr 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the border was being properly enforced, they wouldn't have gotten into this country to be apprehended in the first place.


    Pshaw. By that reasoning, the border has never been properly guarded, under any administration, including Kennedy's.

    All the way back to Washington's!


    I mentioned Kennedy based on someone that someone respects. I can only someone because other than someone and it's factual and therefore perhaps causes pain and can result in disappearance or worse.
    558) Message boards : Politics : The Joe Biden Thread - Part I (Message 2071890)
    Posted 27 Mar 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the border was being properly enforced, they wouldn't have gotten into this country to be apprehended in the first place.


    Pshaw. By that reasoning, the border has never been properly guarded, under any administration, including Kennedy's.
    559) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2071889)
    Posted 27 Mar 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Antifa to attack tomorrow!


    Darn, I missed it. I was hanging out with them while counter-protesting Westboro,
    560) Message boards : Politics : Rush Limbaugh has passed away (Message 2071888)
    Posted 27 Mar 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As if I pay attention to claims of someone being "gone".
    That's right, I'm suggesting ... ummm, Rush (Limbaugh) ... is with Elvis on a distant planet in a parallel dimension, lurking in this thread. So, when Elviro-Rush reads this, R.I.P.
    561) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2066329)
    Posted 22 Jan 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen, and pray that what he sings about.
    This country was paid for with blood.
    Mine and yours.
    And now so many of you are spitting on it.
    You are disgusting.
    If you dislike the sitting president, vote against him.
    But in the meantime, show him the respect that the president deserves.
    You are all disgusting in your lack of respect for this nation and all that it represents.


    Puhlease ... put on the big boy pants.
    The GOP stopped being the "party of personal responsibility" LOOOONG ago.


    Oops, I tripped!
    562) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2066327)
    Posted 22 Jan 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No more PINOs!


    Is Donald Trump still my president?
    563) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2064932)
    Posted 5 Jan 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No more PINOs!
    564) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2064737)
    Posted 1 Jan 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    America, are you tired of winning yet?



    Whatever next?...

    Stay safe folks,
    Martin


    In the true spirit of Trumpian empathy, I'd like to give the rightists here a win: me banned for all or a good portion of 2021. What do I need to do? :)
    565) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2064736)
    Posted 1 Jan 2021 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmm hmmm? Yes? OK. Now, tell me, when did you ... .
    566) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2064355)
    Posted 26 Dec 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not unhiding that.
    567) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2063970)
    Posted 20 Dec 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice to see you once in a while Sarge


    My butt is working even harder than it was before. The opportunities to rant or debunk the rants of others has significantly decreased.
    568) Message boards : Politics : I sing dixie.................. (Message 2063882)
    Posted 19 Dec 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen, and pray that what he sings about.
    This country was paid for with blood.
    Mine and yours.
    And now so many of you are spitting on it.
    You are disgusting.
    If you dislike the sitting president, vote against him.
    But in the meantime, show him the respect that the president deserves.
    You are all disgusting in your lack of respect for this nation and all that it represents.


    Puhlease ... put on the big boy pants.
    The GOP stopped being the "party of personal responsibility" LOOOONG ago.
    569) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2062709)
    Posted 2 Dec 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sidney also didn't want Flynn given a pardon because she reckoned that she could get him off, but obviously #BlubberBoy wasn't convinced. LOL


    Thought Flynn was married.
    I hope this doesn't get ... Stormy?
    570) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2059654)
    Posted 20 Oct 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ooooh, look, a shiny new Joe thread from our common man urging us to come on, man.
    571) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean" (Message 2059481)
    Posted 17 Oct 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The old thread was getting very messy.

    A few simple notes to happy posting
    Don't point fingers at other posters
    Answer requests for fact with either the facts or links to the facts
    Fact check external sources in a reasonable manner
    Keep the size of pictures SMALL, and certainly with the larger dimension less than 1024
    Be very aware when "deep quoting" that when you get above three deep the message can become unreadable on some small-screen devices
    Remember posting is a privilege not a right, and that privilege may be withdrawn at any time
    All posts here are accessible to the public, so don't post anything you don't want to spill outside this community.


    ooooo! Look! A shiny new Donny thread! Lemme post, Donny style!
    My boys are HUNTERs of the ELEPHANT in the room.
    Bake those crumbs into bread.
    572) Message boards : Politics : China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and The World (Message 2057476)
    Posted 22 Sep 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man, he thinks a world exists? What's he smoking up derre wit da bears? (Not you, RW.)
    573) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump thread part V (Message 2057475)
    Posted 22 Sep 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The old thread was getting long and messy.
    A few simple notes to happy posting
    Don't point fingers at other posters
    Answer requests for fact with either the facts or links to the facts
    Fact check external sources in a reasonable manner
    Keep the size of pictures SMALL, and certainly with the larger dimension less than 1024
    Be very aware when "deep quoting" that when you get above three deep the message can become unreadable on some small-screen devices
    Remember posting is a privilege not a right, and that privilege may be withdrawn at any time
    All posts here are accessible to the public, so don't post anything you don't want to spill outside this community.


    Not only is the evidence for DJT's existence pretty poor (who ever mentioned him before "The Art of the Deal" was ghost-written? A handful of drunken NYCers), but there's evidence he never existed at all. Change my mind. =Signed, Steven Crowder.
    574) Message boards : Politics : CON MAN!!!!! Where's dA JOE aka OUR NEXT PREz Stuff? C'MON MAN!!!!!! Certaninly Posts to a CON MAN JOE Thread should be OVERFLOWING with ACCOLADEs to Our SOON to be NEXT PREZ. CON MAN!!!!! (Message 2057474)
    Posted 22 Sep 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still not here, not reading this junk, just saw a thread from whoyouknow and interjecting nonsense enjoy or hate November Rain 3 we'll see what happens by the way lots of rightists are CVD9 dead bye.
    575) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2039052)
    Posted 20 Mar 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't need to keep records to cut and paste months and years later, out of context and misconstrued. Buh bye.


    Should've supported impeachment when you had a chance.
    I mourn you.
    I shall not be reading the S@H obituaries here.
    Good luck to you.
    Yahweh does not exist.
    576) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029586)
    Posted 27 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't need to keep records to cut and paste months and years later, out of context and misconstrued. Buh bye.
    577) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029556)
    Posted 27 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Feigning neutrality.
    Prevarication.
    While in fact defending the most heinous of the heinous.
    And then slinging what one actually does as an accusation against another.
    Is intolerable.
    Yet one slides.
    Enjoy your stupid election.
    578) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029314)
    Posted 26 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And before House impeachment manager Adam Shiff took the floor, Senate Chaplin Barry Black issued some words of wisdom.
    For heavens sake. Are you real in the US?


    I thought Blackberry's weren't allowed?
    579) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029306)
    Posted 26 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump doesn't have to follow rules & now neither does the Senate.
    580) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029067)
    Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There’s a fashion these days for identifying left and right purely with notions of stances on laissez-faire economics. This has emerged out of the ideological battles of the 1980s in which the right came to embrace economic liberalism and is a relatively recent phenomenon.

    In reality the history of what has been considered left vs. right wing political thought has been principally to do with stances on social hierarchies. The left, at least notionally, advocates for the end or reduction of social inequalities and hierarchies. The right either believes in their continued existence or denies that social hierarchies exist at all. When the term was first used it came from the French Revolution. Shortly afterwards the revolutionaries sat on the left side of the assembly while monarchists sat on the right.

    The thinking has evolved with time. Liberals (in the classical sense) were typically identified with the left at first as they desired equality before the law, they were considered to be more right wing as socialists, who desired a more radical equality of economic outcome, emerged.

    Fascism hence came to be seen as far right because fascism at its core is an ideology which advocates hierarchy above all else. Every element of fascist ideology is about hierarchies, whether it be of nations, of leader above their subjects, or of ethnicities. Fascism is often misunderstood as having socialistic economics, this is untrue (for instance, on the Nazis read Adam Tooze’s excellent Wages of Destruction). Mussolini embraced economic liberalism at first and then moved to economic interventionism later. Mussolini himself saw fascism as embracing a combining of state and corporate power. In reality the actual tool didn’t matter so much - there is not a strict fascist economics in the way of communism or capitalism, rather instead fascists used the state or the market in whichever way they saw would best mould the hierarchical, anti-egalitarian world of their dreams. That is why they are described as far-right. To be a fascist is not merely to be against notions of making the world more equal, but to be against the very notion of equality itself. To describe that as socialistic in practice is to misunderstand socialism, which is similarly defined by its goals as one of economic equality above all else.


    By C.T.
    581) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2029049)
    Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "So help me God". So what could possible go wrong:)

    God is the excuse to do evil, because he is on your side and you are doing his work.


    Yeppp.
    582) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028982)
    Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do those that are behind the impeachment not realize that this just what Trump wants. Free advertisement and more sympathisers ,


    "Behind"?
    Anyway, I support it for the same reason I supported WJC's and the reasons that got us here are far far worse than what took us to WJC's,
    583) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028913)
    Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Dreamers learn to steer by the stars. All of us do time in the gutter. Dreamers turn to look at the cars. Turn around and turn around and turn around. Turn around and walk the razor's edge." (NP)

    Yeah, ummm. NO. We're not on the ground, bruoaheim.
    584) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028849)
    Posted 23 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How you enjoying the Senate Trial in the "Star Chamber"?
    585) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028828)
    Posted 23 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I could go on, but you get the point." (J.N.)
    586) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028761)
    Posted 21 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "OK, I didn't let the dinosaurs out, but if I had, let me tell you exactly 'How I Would've Let the Dinosaurs Out (Even Though I Didn't)'". But only if you say "the magic word".

    (Just caught my own third meaning to this. LOL!)
    587) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028673)
    Posted 20 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just to get out in front of this, "Lev Parnas didn't kill himself."
    588) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028650)
    Posted 20 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Marked Safe from the 'Maybe Even Before I Came down the Escalator' Hoax" of June 2015.
    589) Message boards : Politics : Flight PS752 Tehran-Kyiv (Message 2028605)
    Posted 20 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What matters is the flight data to see how the air-frame responded under stress and if there are any weak points that should be reinforced in a subsequent design.

    What?! We are now to make passenger airliners proof against anti-aircraft missiles??!


    If the capability exists and until such time as humans become non-violent (if ever), why would we not endeavor to protect civilians?
    590) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028498)
    Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's all good & well to have such thought patterns, but not so good for America or the world, as your Secretary of State said:"He's a f---ing moron".
    What has happened to that all pervading American Superiority?


    #shamexceptionalism
    591) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028450)
    Posted 19 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #shammitch
    592) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028321)
    Posted 18 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So much for v2.0's claim that, "no Americans were harmed in the assault by Tehran".

    11 U.S. troops evacuated from Iraq base after Trump claimed none 'were harmed'.

    Where do his lies end?


    Which is the lie?
    593) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028273)
    Posted 18 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is Trumpy Bear always just so ... GRUMPY?

    Because some of his cabinet find out what he is really like and express it out loud.
    There was silence in the Tank. Several military officers in the room were grateful to the secretary of state for defending them when no one else would. The meeting soon ended and Trump walked out, saying goodbye to a group of servicemen lining the corridor as he made his way to his motorcade waiting outside. Mattis, Tillerson, and Cohn were deflated. Standing in the hall with a small cluster of people he trusted, Tillerson finally let down his guard.

    “He’s a f---ing moron,” the secretary of state said of the president.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/youre-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-inside-trumps-stunning-tirade-against-generals/2020/01/16/d6dbb8a6-387e-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html


    Well, he "knows" more, even than the generals. which is quite... believable.
    594) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028171)
    Posted 17 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is Trumpy Bear always just so ... GRUMPY?
    595) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028126)
    Posted 17 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, this should be a report of the re-election campaign money Trumpy Bear is throwing to his cronies. But, it's not.

    And Moscow Mitch will make sure no one finds out about it.

    Mollified Mitch has difficulty shoveling and covering Trumpy Bear's excrement.
    596) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2028049)
    Posted 17 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The FIX is in, jury is bought off.


    So, this should be a report of the re-election campaign money Trumpy Bear is throwing to his cronies. But, it's not.
    597) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027977)
    Posted 16 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    White House 'broke law' by withholding Ukraine aid, says watchdog
    The White House broke the law by withholding aid to Ukraine that had been approved by the US Congress, a government watchdog has said.

    The Government Accountability Office (GAO) ruling is a potential blow to President Donald Trump as he faces an impeachment trial in the Senate.

    He is accused of freezing aid to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival.

    Ukraine has opened a probe on separate allegations linked to the impeachment.


    See above.
    Hard to believe the mobsters ... errr, monsters ... pulled it off.
    598) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027976)
    Posted 16 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NBC - Treasury's internal watchdog is probing the Trump administration's Opportunity Zone program
    WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department's internal watchdog has opened an inquiry into the department's Opportunity Zone program after a request in October from three Democratic members of Congress, Acting Treasury Inspector General Richard Delmar said.
    In late 2018, NBC News reported that Richard LeFrak, a friend of Trump's, and the family interests of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, among others, could benefit from possible projects in designated opportunity zones. The New York Times published a similar report last year.

    From the NYT,
    Last year, The Times reported how money eligible for the tax break — supported by both Democrats and Republicans — was going to luxury projects in affluent neighborhoods, including deals that were underway long before the tax break took effect.

    In October, The Times described how the financier Michael Milken stood to benefit from a move the Treasury Department made over the objections of some agency officials to permit a census tract in Nevada to qualify for the Opportunity Zone tax break. Mr. Milken is a longtime friend of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin’s.

    “Despite these warnings from staff, Secretary Mnuchin instructed Treasury officials to allow the otherwise ineligible tract to qualify for the incentive,” the lawmakers wrote in seeking the inquiry. “If the Treasury Department provided a stamp of approval as a political favor, it is not only unacceptable, but in complete violation of the congressional intent of the Opportunity Zones.”


    Swamp needs draining. Swamp mobsters ... errr, monsters ... don't want it drained. But, they put on a pretty face and convince some they're not mobsters ... errr, monsters.
    599) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027872)
    Posted 16 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's all kiss the butt of criminal China? :-D :-D :-D

    Crims cuttin dealz with crimz n distrackin u wit da stimz slim.
    600) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027763)
    Posted 15 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To be honest I think that if Bloomberg gets the democratic presidential nomination and if Trump is still President in November I might vote for Bloomberg, making him the first democrat I have ever voted for as president. Last time I voted for the libertarian (whoever he was).


    Probably just as a difficult choice as last time. Not Trump equals ... ? Ugh.
    601) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027762)
    Posted 15 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Louisiana is just a small part of America and it does not matter much to the left coast or the upper right coast where most of the wealth and power resides.


    Sorry, just doesn't sound like a good way to put things. Besides, I'm originally from NYS. What about where I live now, on neither coast?
    602) Message boards : Politics : Flight PS752 Tehran-Kyiv (Message 2027761)
    Posted 15 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of the people who filmed when the Iranian army shot down the Ukrainian plane has been arrested and may be prosecuted for endangering the security of the kingdom. The BBC reports.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51119415
    Iranian media reports that the country's Islamic Revolutionary Guard has seized a person who filmed the missile that hit the Ukrainian Boeing plane which, according to Iran, was accidentally shot down. The clip was used by experts to analyze the event and spread widely on the web.
    But uncertainty prevails over whether it is really the person behind the scattered clip that has been seized. According to Iranian journalist Nariman Gharib, who lives in London and who has interviewed the author behind the clip, that person is not deprived of liberty.
    Nariman Gharib writes on Twitter that he has spoken to the person, saying that the Revolutionary Guard has arrested the wrong person.


    Either the film-er was fairly lucky, timing wise or ... ? Filmed by someone in the military?
    603) Message boards : Politics : The end of the U.S democracy is near! (Message 2027500)
    Posted 12 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could that be because the children in different states are not taught the same things about the same subject.
    NYT - Two States. Eight Textbooks. Two American Stories.
    American history textbooks can differ across the country, in ways that are shaded by partisan politics.


    The textbooks cover the same sweeping story, from the brutality of slavery to the struggle for civil rights. The self-evident truths of the founding documents to the waves of immigration that reshaped the nation.

    The books have the same publisher. They credit the same authors. But they are customized for students in different states, and their contents sometimes diverge in ways that reflect the nation’s deepest partisan divides.

    Hundreds of differences — some subtle, others extensive — emerged in a New York Times analysis of eight commonly used American history textbooks in California and Texas, two of the nation’s largest markets.


    This is, however, not new news. Aron Ra's been speaking about it for at least a few years already.
    604) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027192)
    Posted 10 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How much valuable taxpayer money was wasted on this?


    How many wars in Iran could it have funded?
    605) Message boards : Politics : Flight PS752 Tehran-Kyiv (Message 2027171)
    Posted 10 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The point about appeasement is well taken, but make sure you are defining the term accurately.

    Winston Churchill - not unknown as a successful wartime leader - said 'Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war'.

    War should be the last resort, not the first.


    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/appease
    Appease definition is - pacify, conciliate; especially : to make concessions to (someone, such as an aggressor or a critic) often at the sacrifice of principles.


    It would seem one poster has been calling other posters appeasers and has done so before. If I am correct, that person should then explain how individuals posting at this site have made concessions or sacrificed our principles.
    606) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027145)
    Posted 10 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    L. Graham is reading from an alternative Constitution.
    From an alternative universe by any chance?

    I wish I knew.
    607) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2027067)
    Posted 10 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A US appeals court has lifted a legal block on $3.6bn (£2.7bn) in defence funds, allowing President Donald Trump to spend the money on a US-Mexico wall.

    The order by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a lower court's ruling that stopped the funds being used while the case continues.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51011034


    L. Graham is reading from an alternative Constitution.
    608) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2026892)
    Posted 9 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Amazing how many times everyone has reacted to The President's comments made 'tongue in cheek', no wonder he keeps doing it! It keeps him laughing.


    Proof of the real reason they voted for him. Too bad he's hurting the wrong people, eh?
    609) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2026762)
    Posted 8 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is and has always been ... .
    Happy 1st 2nd Wednesday of the New Year.
    610) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2026760)
    Posted 8 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is and has always been infertile.
    611) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2026665)
    Posted 7 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, no, has Trump lost Rand Paul?!?
    612) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 2026646)
    Posted 7 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/media/fox-news-iran-soleimani/index.html
    New York (CNN Business)On Friday afternoon President Trump praised Tucker Carlson along with other conservative Fox News stars. "We have great people," Trump said.
    A few hours later Carlson tore into Trump's decision to authorize the US airstrike that killed Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani.
    While he mostly refrained from criticized Trump directly, Carlson condemned "chest-beaters" who advocate for foreign interventions. He asked four questions that made clear his anti-war point of view: "Is Iran really the greatest threat we face? And who's actually benefiting from this? And why are we continuing to ignore the decline of our own country in favor of jumping into another quagmire from which there is no obvious exit? By the way, if we're still in Afghanistan, 19 years, sad years, later, what makes us think there's a quick way out of Iran?"
    "Nobody is thinking like that right now," Carlson added. "Instead, chest-beaters like Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska are making the usual war-like noises, the noises they always make."


    And there's also Rivera's recent comments to Kilmeade.
    BTW, with YouTube and similar things, one doesn't necessarily need to have cable or tune in to those stations on a TV.
    613) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 2026645)
    Posted 7 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where are the occasional Pro Trump opinions, or occasional pro Trump Hosts, on the daily opinion shows of CNN and MSNBC?
    Ask someone who has cable.


    Joe & Mika gave him plenty of free air time during his campaign.
    614) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2026643)
    Posted 7 Jan 2020 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now we have Trump threatening violence against cultural sites in Iran. Remember the Buddhas of Bamyan? They're the ones the Taliban blew up. Trump is sinking to their level.

    Culture belongs to the planet, not solely to the tribe, race or religion that created it. And certainly 1,500 year old culture like the Buddhas doesn't belong to a 40 year old rebel tenant. The UN is right to declare violence against cultural artefacts as a war crime.


    I was going to mention this. It was news a few months before September 11. A nun I knew was arguing we should go there to stop the Taliban from destroying those sites.
    615) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2023603)
    Posted 18 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also there has never been an incumbent President defeated when approval of the economy was high.


    Except the economy still sucks.
    616) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2023058)
    Posted 14 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listening to the impeachment hearings I am impressed with how utterly disingenuous the Republican arguments are.
    They are worse than the worst we get in this forum.

    From whom is the lead taken? Conspiracy spouting voters or conspiracy spouting politicians?

    Neither, it is from click bait spouting professional liars who steal from the gullible.

    Let's ignore the "I like Trump" (but can't explain why) folks, since they "liked" Bush previously and couldn't explain why 9 or 10 years ago, either.
    I mean the people that have *some* awareness of things. People that know what their conservative beliefs are. People that liked GWB and couldn't believe in the the 9-11 conspiracies spouted by Alex Jones and his ilk. I'd say it's safe to say that, among the aware group, they didn't believe a lot of conspiracy theories. But now, Trump & Jones are cozy. Do they accept more conspiracy theories now? Or not?

    You perhaps forget the power of the 11th commandment. The one the devil himself created to capture the souls of the church going conservative crowd. Thou shalt not speak evil -- or the truth -- of a Republican.

    The subset you speak of may simply be silent in public. One hopes the jury vote will be secret as all judicial jury votes are, but the devil's minions are in power.


    Silent in public these days seems to be keeping away from the secular world. HIDING.
    617) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2023011)
    Posted 13 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listening to the impeachment hearings I am impressed with how utterly disingenuous the Republican arguments are.
    They are worse than the worst we get in this forum.


    From whom is the lead taken? Conspiracy spouting voters or conspiracy spouting politicians?

    Neither, it is from click bait spouting professional liars who steal from the gullible.


    Let's ignore the "I like Trump" (but can't explain why) folks, since they "liked" Bush previously and couldn't explain why 9 or 10 years ago, either.
    I mean the people that have *some* awareness of things. People that know what their conservative beliefs are. People that liked GWB and couldn't believe in the the 9-11 conspiracies spouted by Alex Jones and his ilk. I'd say it's safe to say that, among the aware group, they didn't believe a lot of conspiracy theories. But now, Trump & Jones are cozy. Do they accept more conspiracy theories now? Or not?
    618) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2022949)
    Posted 13 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listening to the impeachment hearings I am impressed with how utterly disingenuous the Republican arguments are.
    They are worse than the worst we get in this forum.


    From whom is the lead taken? Conspiracy spouting voters or conspiracy spouting politicians?
    619) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2022317)
    Posted 8 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hot damn, our dunnies have been 3L/6L for a long time now (replacing the old 9L single flush jobs) and you'd be having to shove a lot of B.S. and paper in them for 6L not to work properly. :-O


    Ukraine had us convinced in 2008 that 1.5L was enough.
    620) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2022283)
    Posted 8 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rump knows what he spews
    Unless they take 2 or 3 flushes.
    Trump says. “People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times as opposed to once. They end up using more water,'' Well I guess he knows.


    It's been 10 years, but I do know of one that often required 2 or 3 flushes.
    621) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2022262)
    Posted 8 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rump knows what he spews


    Unless they take 2 or 3 flushes.
    622) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021908)
    Posted 6 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?


    Do YOU believe every time a guilty person is acquitted due to a technicality, poor argumentation from the prosecution or whatever is a waste? Fp UPI ;olr Frank Azar, the strong arm?

    Do YOU believe the chopper talks are NOT a waste a fuel and therefore taxpayer money?


    And ... let us not forget ... he's the golfer in chief.
    623) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021907)
    Posted 6 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone should provide him with some Special Counselling. :-)


    Maybe a GOP/evangelical council will recommend counsel?
    624) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021906)
    Posted 6 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?


    Do YOU believe every time a guilty person is acquitted due to a technicality, poor argumentation from the prosecution or whatever is a waste? Fp UPI ;olr Frank Azar, the strong arm?

    Do YOU believe the chopper talks are NOT a waste a fuel and therefore taxpayer money?
    625) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021637)
    Posted 4 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The remarks suggested another round of China tariffs - due 15 December - might become reality, sending US shares to their largest losses in weeks.
    Some people just do not know when to keep their mouth shut. :-(


    He didn't "say" it; it's just what he "thinks". ;)
    626) Message boards : Politics : The Donald Trump Thread (IV) (Message 2021451)
    Posted 2 Dec 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What did you have to show (documents) in order to register and vote in your State?


    Government photo-ID, or a mailed voter reg. card (derivative from tax records and previous voting) + proof of address, or, ie for people in assisted care facilities who have neither, a guarantor must present government photo ID and their identity is logged.


    State? I thought they called them provinces in Canada.
    And I showed permissible ID in my state.
    627) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2021149)
    Posted 30 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh!
    628) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020802)
    Posted 27 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another question is why does Eye continually perpetuate Trump's easily disproven lies?


    Gotta keep owning the not-Trumpers?
    629) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020517)
    Posted 25 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was unaware Vindman or Eye "took" a meeting. If they did, maybe they should "give it back"?
    630) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020495)
    Posted 25 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting.....that the majority of the Witlesses in the Kangaroo hearings were fired former Administration Employees....🤔

    Maybe they believe in following the Constitution and place their loyalty to the country and not to him.
    It has been said by many, including Roger Stone, that Trump demands "utter loyalty" to him.

    Try searching "utter loyalty" or "highest loyalty".


    Interesting ... that Eye didn't name which were in that majority. Does he think Vindman's been fired, for example?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/still-there-vindman-not-removed-from-national-security-council-despite-alarm-over-vengeful-firing
    631) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020455)
    Posted 25 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, Lev.
    632) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020353)
    Posted 24 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde we were talking about people not governments, don't switch the topic in order to justify Eye's incorrect statement!
    +1
    Cheers.

    + 2


    So now Socialist is not a Philosophy of Governing, it's an individual?


    ......(sigh)........there's no debating that branch of illogic...

    I guess Bubba is correct "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is....."

    That is quite correct a socialist is a person, governments are made of people. Your misunderstanding of syntax appals me.


    And, Eye, WJC enjoyed his time Oral Office a lil' too much. That he did should've been between him, HRC & ML to work out. Possibly "whatever gods they believed in" (snort, I'm am atheism). But, previously, the KS and BK witch hunt hadn't been gong so well. Now they had "something" and WJC lied about it. Not only to investigators. but with the elitist "it depends on what the definition of the word 'is' is," With that, not only did he try to lawyer speak on the investigators and courts, but on all of the people of the USA as well. It was disgusting. It was his downfall.

    Your Trump learned from the best of the worst or the worst of the best and is, himself, far far worse.

    I support(ed) both impeachments.

    And, betreger is right: a suffix of nouns, often corresponding to verbs ending in -ize or nouns ending in -ism, that denote a person who practices or is concerned with something, or holds certain principles, doctrines, etc.:
    apologist; dramatist; machinist; novelist; realist; socialist; Thomist.
    . LOL!!!
    633) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020328)
    Posted 24 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde we were talking about people not governments, don't switch the topic in order to justify Eye's incorrect statement!
    +1
    Cheers.

    + 2


    +3
    634) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020124)
    Posted 22 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is the public interest in this Democrat Impeachment Inquiry Hearing overwhelming?

    The 13.8 million people who tuned in on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CSPAN and PBS marks a 31 percent drop from the number of people who watched former FBI Director James Comey’s testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee in June 2017, which delivered more than 19 million viewers.


    Why do you frequently put incorrect words, as indicated above, into your comments?

    By doing so it implies to me that you are a Republican Trump supporter, no matter that you claim to be impartial and critical of both parties and don't like Trump.

    In answer to your question, could it be that FBI Director James Comey’s testimony only lasted one day and this hearing will go on for two or more weeks.


    Gee. June. Now what possibly could happen in June?
    635) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020121)
    Posted 22 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did you watch the testimony, as I did. Or are you relying upon the "spin" by Fox, or CNN or other outlets?

    Clyde, neither I listen to it on NPR.


    I will remind you yet again, 47% of us work & pay taxes. It is not possible for many of us to watch them live and energy resources are limited to watch recordings in their entirety later. That said, I did (while multi-tasking)watch or listen to some hours, with the office door shut. But, for the rest, yep, I have to listen or read summarizations and analysis. Sue me, for having a job.
    636) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2020118)
    Posted 22 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    $50,000 per month with no experience and his father was Vice President?
    Yes, all was just a coincidence!
    But in Eastern Europe and elsewhere in the world it's fairly common for well-known public figures to be given well-paid positions to improve the public image of a controversial company.

    Is that like getting a bank to loan you $70million to build a building and you have no experience?


    Someone beat me to the point of pointing out the hypocrisy. Clearly, Ivanka (Jared), Don Jr. & Eric have not benefited from Trump's presidency or any else their father has done or claimed to have done. Clearly.
    637) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019669)
    Posted 19 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @RepDevinNunes 47% of us have jobs. You cannot expect us to follow every minute of the impeachment hearings. Thus, your little "ratings are down" jab is fallacious.
    638) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019560)
    Posted 18 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keep on trumpin' while you can:)

    https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1611151200000/america-new_york/yodhms/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/Time_Until_Trump_Leaves_Office


    That's 3 minutes to 11 p.m. (2257 for you enlisted folk), not 2 minutes to midnight.
    639) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019550)
    Posted 18 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have not seen much criticism of the deportation of knowingly illegal immigrants. The major issue is the forceful and arbitrary separation of families even of lawful asylum-seekers, thousands of which have lost their children in the bureaucratic maze of detention camps, as well as other issues such as allowing ICE onto domestic bus routes and other issues.


    To them, which are the illegals? Just about all of them?
    640) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019349)
    Posted 17 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wrong again!
    641) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019219)
    Posted 16 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do I have a feeling that there is going to be a vote by Turkey Day? Give everyone something to talk about over a bird.

    It might be my first good Thanksgiving in about 26 years!

    yep - Moscow Mitch = senate trial in December? or January?


    Voted out next November!
    642) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019208)
    Posted 16 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do I have a feeling that there is going to be a vote by Turkey Day? Give everyone something to talk about over a bird.


    It might be my first good Thanksgiving in about 26 years!
    643) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019164)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fox host admits Trump committed impeachable offense w/ tweet during hearing. A crime.
    644) Message boards : Politics : Help the Intel Community Whistleblowers (Message 2019163)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At what point do the presumed innocent have the right know the identity of, and to question, under oath, those making an accusation?
    When they testify [make accusation] in a court of law.

    Under the "Discovery" process.
    So you are saying the President has been indicted and the bill has been filed with a court of law?


    And that he's witness tampering?
    645) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019158)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In today's wonky and insane name calling world. Why anyone would wish to be an important elected official. Or take the job as spokesperson for a President, or her/his Chief of Staff, or Director of the FBI, or an appointed Ambassador, et al. Is beyond me.


    Yet it's as close as your signature:

    "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."


    He wanted it and millions let him have it.
    646) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019156)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but 15 min ago. Here's the key moment in Yovanovitch's hearing that everyone is talking about. We're 45 minutes into the first round of questioning during ex-ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch's testimony. The questions — and the conversation outside the hearing ��� turned to allegations of witness intimidation after Trump tweeted attacks on the former ambassador in real-time. Here's what happened: Minutes into Yovanovitch's testimony, after she detailed some of her work in Somalia, President Trump tweeted this:


    See my post immediately above yours.
    647) Message boards : Politics : Help the Intel Community Whistleblowers (Message 2019155)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How do you feel about "snitching" on gang activity?
    648) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019133)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Hey, Jim! Jim Jordan!" "Yes, Chris Farley?" "'Member that time when The Donald live obstructed/intimidated and slurred Ambassador Yavonovich with demonstrably incorrect stuff and made you guys scramble for a new cross-examination tactic during a 40 minute recess?" "Why. no Chris, I can't say I recall any of that." "That's because you're memory is totally NOT awesome!!!"
    649) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2019075)
    Posted 15 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah the unending broken record continues, how boring.


    Steve Castor must have ingested some castor oil! He looked bored with his own line of questioning! Terrible for ratings!!!
    650) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018970)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question: How do you know politicians are lying?

    Answer: Their lips are moving.


    So... if one politician tells another that they did a certain specific action, and the other says they did not... both can somehow be lying at the same time? Politics is quantum computing?


    Ummm, thought duplicate posts were not allowed.
    651) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018969)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Indeed, Jim Jordan was a snooze-fest.
    652) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018956)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, Rump telling Sondland not to testify.

    After all if Rump would let him testify he would swear what Taylor was told was all a fabrication. Right?

    I mean Rump does want this over doesn't he?

    Why isn't the GOP putting every one of the people in on the call on their witness list? Fastest way to prove Rump innocent. Right?



    Consciousness of guilt?


    Dang television Representatives.
    653) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018897)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I don't know him. I mean, I might have a picture with him, 'cuz, like, I have a picture with *everybody*" Like, 7-7.5 billion ppl? Dang, u missed me, Donny!
    654) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018896)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got a use for you
    Besides you ain't got nothin' better to do
    And I'm bored

    It's so easy, easy
    655) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018894)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lock rump --- LOL

    By
    Ann E. Marimow
    November 13, 2019 at 4:44 p.m. PST

    Congress can seek eight years of President Trump’s tax records, according to a federal appeals court order Wednesday that moves the separation-of-powers conflict one step closer to the Supreme Court.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit let stand an earlier ruling against the president that affirmed Congress’s investigative authority on a day when the House was holding its first public impeachment inquiry hearing.

    Trump’s lawyers have said they are prepared to ask the Supreme Court to intervene in this case and in several other legal battles between the president and Congress.
    The D.C. Circuit was responding Wednesday to Trump’s request to have a full panel of judges rehear a three-judge decision from October that rejected the president’s request to block lawmakers from subpoenaing his longtime accounting firm.

    Congress can have access to eight years of Trump’s tax records, appeals court orders


    There was a duplicate post? Never saw it.
    656) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018893)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not like green eggs,
    I do not like spam.
    I do not like green eggs nor spam with an orange tan.
    657) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018892)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, yeah ... no, wrong again.
    658) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018873)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @RepDevinNunes claims it will take years or decades to restore faith in the government. But they believe government is the problem and needs to get out of the way. What better way to get it out of the way than to actively undermine people's trust in it.

    Don't you get it yet? Privilege me! Throw money at me! I am self aggrandized! (the new GOP)


    We both know these are each two sides to the same problem.
    659) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018872)
    Posted 14 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No can do, 1LM. :)
    660) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018834)
    Posted 13 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @RepDevinNunes claims it will take years or decades to restore faith in the government. But they believe government is the problem and needs to get out of the way. What better way to get it out of the way than to actively undermine people's trust in it.
    661) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018833)
    Posted 13 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    point of order, I demand delay in exposing the truth

    point of order, I wont testify because I'm a crook

    point of order, it was perfect because it got the point across

    point of order, I won't read the schedule, tell me what it says

    point of order, his tie color is wrong

    point of order, GOP proving Dem case!


    Yep.
    662) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018802)
    Posted 13 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wrong.
    663) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018706)
    Posted 12 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meanwhile.

    Anonymous anti-Trump book is already a hit and it's not on shelves until next week.


    From that article:

    "In addition to English, the book will also be published in French, German, Bulgarian, Lithuanian, Dutch and Arabic," Hachette said.


    Way to miss your target market there.. coughSPANISHcough. 😄


    There'll be a wall around the Spanish version.
    664) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018623)
    Posted 12 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump has referred to Vindman as a “Never Trumper,” part of a group he described as “human scum.” Now Trump’s Veteran’s Day gift for Vindman is removing him from his position for doing his job.
    Sigh... It's Trump himself and his entourage that is a “human scum.”


    Now, now.
    Is it right to feel superior over someone that thinks he/she/they is/are superior over all?
    Oh, crap, in 6.3 years, Clyde is gonna resurrect this post, chastising me for not feeling superior to Trump,
    665) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018510)
    Posted 11 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Florida is most likely a very, very important swing State.
    Well to me Florida is swinging a lot:)
    More than Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Hmm. Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin are almost Scandinavian territories...


    You're not accounting for the 2008 recession.
    I believe he is talking about a different kind of swinging.


    Wasn't aware that was accepted as a Scandinavian trait.
    666) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018471)
    Posted 11 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Florida is most likely a very, very important swing State.
    Well to me Florida is swinging a lot:)
    More than Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Hmm. Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin are almost Scandinavian territories...


    You're not accounting for the 2008 recession.
    667) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2018415)
    Posted 10 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the a few.”


    Why even respond to the talking points of m jercer and Clyde?

    BBC: "We of course made sure he was clinically safe, patient safety is paramount, and once I established that, he was removed from the ward."


    Translation: their needs were handled!


    Translation: end of discussion. Move on, goal post movers.
    668) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2018340)
    Posted 10 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the a few.”


    Why even respond to the talking points of m jercer and Clyde?

    BBC: "We of course made sure he was clinically safe, patient safety is paramount, and once I established that, he was removed from the ward."


    Translation: their needs were handled!
    669) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018235)
    Posted 9 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ideological compass,

    Eye your moral compass needs to be recalibrated.
    670) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018234)
    Posted 9 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does it matter who the whistleblower is now? The information the whistleblower heard or seen has been confirmed by others in their evidence to the committee.


    "evidence to the committee"...........of what?
    Bribery or attempted bribery.

    You need to see an eye chart to see that attempting a crime is the same as completing the crime.


    The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    this post needs repeating --- Bribery or attempted bribery.


    Bribery or attempted bribery.
    671) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018176)
    Posted 8 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It matters not who makes the tip, it matters only what is found.
    ....so it IS about substance and not the process?


    Of course! Rush told us it should be substance over symbolism.
    672) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2018168)
    Posted 8 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BBC: "We of course made sure he was clinically safe, patient safety is paramount, and once I established that, he was removed from the ward."

    So, Nick, is the thread OP purveying fake news?
    673) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2018094)
    Posted 7 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Seek, and you will find" :)


    "Searchiiing ... ! SEEK AND DESTROY!!!"
    674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : California - "Third World" - Nation Status!!! (Message 2018024)
    Posted 7 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The reason the are up high is in part RF radiation but mainly heat.


    I think that the primary reason is that being that high up, the air gap is an effective insulator, so the conductors are a bare un-insulated aluminum alloy cable with a steel core. This is why they are so cost-effective compared to underground or near-ground conduit where very heavy insulation is a necessity and the conductor must be surrounded and supported at all points.

    If you put the conductors too near each other you start getting some really nasty magnetic inductive effects and that wastes energy by making heat.


    Youse guys really need to rake your forest floors!
    675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : California - "Third World" - Nation Status!!! (Message 2018023)
    Posted 7 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/10/12/how-pges-power-shutdown-threatened-a-nasa-mission/

    Eric had a payload on that. He was keeping us informed on his FB page.


    Nah, Eric isn't on Facebook,
    676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2018022)
    Posted 7 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thankfully Thor isn't due to perform here today, there's lots of red fire trucks, water bombing helicopters and planes getting about and still lots of smoke in the air from his last few shows, but the celebrations will continue while commencing as usual in around 2hrs time.

    All Hail Thor!!!

    Cheers.


    Thor may a cold performance provideth.
    677) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017989)
    Posted 6 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    US Senator Moscow Mitch is up for re-election in 2020 for Kentucky. He is at about 20% in Popularity in Kentucky. I wonder if he will have rump come and hold a rally for him?


    Please?
    678) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2017857)
    Posted 5 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing as Clyde has such a bad memory, I've had to attend more MVA's than I care to remember and as both a warranted officer as well as a firefighter so don't try pulling your so called extensive experience B.S. routine again.

    Sure some will scream and some will swear (that is easily handled), but there is no excuse for personal abuse and those that do here will be waiting for the police to secure them before they get attention.

    So Clyde, why do you keep wanting to defend those antisocial minorities?


    Maybe he thinks hospital workers act superior? ;)
    679) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2017855)
    Posted 5 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be so few innerwebs places for conservatives to let their voices be heard.

    Not just innerwebs, it must be shouted on the street. He's a fill in the divisive negatives. His mere existence offends. He must disappear! I am privilege!

    Wonder where they learned that hate? Their good book?

    Think there is a lesson in many of those good books that says something to the effect of an eye for an eye. So when they shout this conservative voice, they should disappear, just as they require others to do. After all, fair is fair.


    My eye offended me, so I plucked it out. It was jaundiced.
    680) Message boards : Politics : UK: National Health Service to Deny Treatment for ‘Racist or Sexist Language, Gestures, Behaviour’ (Message 2017817)
    Posted 4 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/04/uk-national-health-service-to-deny-treatment-for-racist-or-sexist-language-gestures-behaviour

    A National Health Service (NHS) trust has announced that it will withdraw treatment from patients it deems to be racist or sexist.

    The North Bristol NHS Trust announced that patients will be subject a “sports-style disciplinary yellow card and then final red card in which treatment would be withdrawn as soon as is safe” on its official website.

    So now the government says, "If you want to live, obey."


    BBC: "We of course made sure he was clinically safe, patient safety is paramount, and once I established that, he was removed from the ward."

    So, Nick, is the thread OP purveying fake news?
    Must be so few innerwebs places for conservatives to let their voices be heard.
    681) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017744)
    Posted 3 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES! Michael Bolton WILL testify!!!
    682) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017637)
    Posted 3 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why the sudden changed Clyde? :-O

    You've done your fair share of shouting at others over the years. ;-)


    It must e an ideological necessity.
    Or, at least, convenience,
    683) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017525)
    Posted 2 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde the answer is NO!


    There was a question and not a statement?
    Only our superiors make statements.
    The above line is a statement.
    I must be superior to myself.
    Which makes myself inferior to myself.
    Which ... .
    684) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017444)
    Posted 1 Nov 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Worst, most divisive Ruler SINCE THE LAST GUY, Yep, say "Nope to Hope" Tiny SPINY Hands more hair color than in my own hair Long Black Coat Wearin (sorry, I looked better as a Terminator wannabe wasabi than the obese clown); LOSING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap, I don't have his back and he doesn't have his supporters back.
    SUPER RATIONALIST&blahblahblah I'm tired, I think I've made my point and no need to replace every word LOL hashtag.
    685) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017407)
    Posted 31 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ....Interesting how all these NYT and WaPo 'News' stories are gleaned from leaks in a closed Star Chamber hearing.........

    Impeachment by secret hearing and leaks............a new judicial process? Not in Russia or China or DPRK.


    As an example, Clinton's impeachment was done by the same process. It has to start off with closed-door secretive hearings with both Democrats and Republicans in attendance to prevent witnesses influencing other witnesses, ie falsely repeating and claiming what others have said. Once those depositions are recorded it then becomes public in the House.


    Star chamber?
    Is this, like, near the star Kolob (planet Kobol), where Apollo & Serina got married, man?
    686) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017382)
    Posted 31 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Deer derp state,

    Tank u for seeding me rights to dis thread. I will rename it appropritully, as Dull haz silly name fer it.

    Ur friend,

    Jaymz
    687) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017365)
    Posted 31 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That video is clearly not of el-Bagdaddy,
    688) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017304)
    Posted 31 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Minimal posts on my part, already tiring out the other "side". LOL!
    689) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017283)
    Posted 30 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One "side" does understand we're all in this together. They are attacked mercilessly, for decades upon decades, yet seldom if ever return attacks.
    690) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017212)
    Posted 30 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde thank Newt for that.

    I thank [sic] both deranged sides for what is happening.

    And neither side understands they are the same as what they attack.

    Clyde examine history, I'm old enough to remember, Newt started this in modern times.


    His examination and analysis of history is superior to ours,
    691) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017177)
    Posted 30 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To the person trying to respond to me, probably trying to tell me I'm wrong: it comes from years of comments from conservative friends.
    692) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017169)
    Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Best option


    I believe Trump & many of his followers believe all Democratic politicians, all people registered for as Democrats and all people that have ever voted for any Democratic candidates are savages. They are our betters. We will burn in hell while they lose their free will and memories in heaven.
    693) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017141)
    Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For some reason, Sasha tends to be the nickname Oleksandr.
    694) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017130)
    Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They are from Kyiv not Kiev:)
    https://www.kyivpost.com/world/kyiv-not-kiev-us-changes-spelling-of-ukrainian-capital.html


    And his name is Oleksandr, not Alexander.
    695) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017068)
    Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you, Deep State, for cleansing us of al-Baghdaddy,
    696) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2017057)
    Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Breaking news: DJT has captured Sasquatch in the vicinity of Beta Reticulon!
    697) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016990)
    Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When the fighting began, al-Baghdadi ran down a tunnel with three of his children, Trump said on Sunday. The commandos feared he was wearing a suicide vest and sent a military dog into the tunnel. Then the terrorist blasted himself and the children. Two of his wives, who wore suicide vests that didn't exploded, also died in the explosion. However, 11 children who were in the house managed to be rescued by the soldiers. The dog was injured in the operation, Trump stated.
    Arf...


    Well, there couldn't have been 11 children! Eye's own CNN grab said he only had 3 children!!!
    698) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016978)
    Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    53%ers got in their eye dissent, dissent, dissent.
    47%ers like me gonna present, present, present.
    Later!
    699) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016976)
    Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    700) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016971)
    Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    .............wait for it...........


    And there it is. Our superior places the word "unarmed" in the "breaking news" line when the rifle on the left is clearly seen. This is what they've learned from Jones: put their fake news in plain sight.
    701) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016907)
    Posted 27 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Re: al-Baghdadi and al-Baghadadi's attempt to re-institute the power of ISIS.


    Wait. For and against foreign entanglements?
    702) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016898)
    Posted 27 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Donald Trump has confirmed that it was the Daesh leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi who was killed in a raid night last Sunday.
    "We have been searching for him for many years and now he is dead," the president said.
    But didn't the stable genius Trump several months ago that "mission is accomplished"?


    I guess NOW the war on terror is over?
    703) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016897)
    Posted 27 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye, how's that border wall in Colorado going?


    Quite well.
    704) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016773)
    Posted 26 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stock market to soar uon Trump resignation/impeachment, predicted by Wall Street firm.
    705) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016682)
    Posted 26 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    After what he was put through in confirmation......
    This is going to be SO delicious........."best served cold".


    Really? You rightists have dropped all pretence of an independent judiciary and appear gleeful at the prospect
    of this (accused) sexual abuser and admitted heavy drinker taking personal revenge against those he feels wronged his good name.
    Is that the system of justice conservatives now seek?
    Don't you dare make squeaking noises if the next Democratic President just adds a couple of justices to the court for no other
    reason than because she or he can.


    Much or all of this has been about some sort of revenge.
    706) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016498)
    Posted 24 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The feckless are the capitol police who did not shoot on sight those attempting to bring phones and cameras into a SCIF.


    I know, right?
    Maybe the cops didn't shoot because they didn't flee & present their backsides?
    707) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016471)
    Posted 24 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They tried to be for 5 hours. They failed. Meantime, this post stood 10 hours. Alternative winning.
    708) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016446)
    Posted 24 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump says his fellow Republicans aren't hard enough.
    709) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016211)
    Posted 22 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the majority of voters voted against Hillary in 2016

    What a failure to understand simple arithmetic, as applied to elections

    Hillary won the majority of votes, of those that chose to vote.

    No candidate won over 50% of the population entitled to vote.

    To achieve a 50% + 1 majority of the population of voting age, that winner would have had to won 90% of all the votes cast in 2016.
    If someone ever won by the popular vote by that margin, they would have probably won the electoral college by 538:0


    It doesn't need to be +1. Add any non-zero number to 50.
    BTW, no, we don't want to undo 2016. A so-called "undo" would give us Hillz.
    710) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016209)
    Posted 22 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's called "Livin' the Dream". Hah ha!!

    All I see is a bunch of butt hurt folks here.


    Yeah? You're the one posting. Great job, "livin' da life".
    711) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016161)
    Posted 21 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think he is in his 70s as I, so our work is done and time to play at retirement laughing all the way to the bank as our moneys grow. Hah ha!

    Shine on Eye!


    So what?
    712) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2016123)
    Posted 21 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    You post a lot.
    I was taught by a conservative parent to work, not post my days away.
    713) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015915)
    Posted 19 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now try replacing that with corporations.
    Countries.
    And so on.
    714) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015914)
    Posted 19 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With Trump, you know exactly where you stand.


    I do give him that... other politicians try to hide their shenanigans, but Trump does them right out in the open, and has since long before he even had inklings of being president. I leave it to others to determine whether it's brazenness or bravery.

    The latest instance that brings this up, one I am very surprised hasn't been mentioned in this thread (or that it just fell to the bottom of the pile) is that Trump's own golf course is being used to host the 2020 G7. He claims he won't profit from this. I highly doubt it, unless he or any of his organizations don't actually own it nor is he profiting from having his name on it.

    And this is just the latest of several official state functions where it just happened to be determined that a Trump property was the most ideal location. (How did the federal government function before, I wonder?)


    I do not give him that.
    Jeff Sessions once stood in one place.
    Then in another.
    The moment he was picked up and move elsewhere, he was unaware and didn't know where he stood.
    Until he got tweeted to death over the course of 2 years.
    The litany of people not knowing where they stood with Trump or one point or another is endless.
    715) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015870)
    Posted 18 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With Trump, you know exactly where you stand.


    And it's this kind of delusional b.s. that led me away from any GOP support, playing diplomat, etc. ... .
    716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2015805)
    Posted 18 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And all I can do
    is to pour some tea for two
    ... there's no raaain.
    717) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015804)
    Posted 18 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Especially considering the political hysteria infecting the Democrat Party.
    The political hysteria today has very much to do with Trump. Everyone that criticize him are called witch hunters by him.
    The Greatest Witch Hunt in American History!
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184820057001598976
    Trump "The Chosen One and a Stable Genius from Karlstad," doesn't know what being a politician means.
    Unless ripping off other people that is!


    These quotes were found in the secret server.
    718) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015799)
    Posted 17 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This should give Eye the warm fuzzies since he claims how well the economy is doing. Chalk it to be another win for Trump.
    US industrial production fell sharply in September

    https://www.ft.com/content/6fbb8bf0-f0e0-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195


    Is he thinking the cannabis economy? That'll go up in smoke when the rest tanks.
    719) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015721)
    Posted 17 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The same reason the Russian Space Program didn't broadcast their launches live in the 60s, when it blows up in their face no one will see it.
    LOL:) Many US people believe that the Apollo 11 moon landing was a hoax as well:)


    Only Trump can finally put a man on the moon.
    720) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015676)
    Posted 17 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    USAF scrambling to remove B-61 (nukes) from northern Syria? Anyone else hearing this?
    721) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015628)
    Posted 16 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alternate universes alive and well

    Yep, I also find it interesting that Eye doesn't find the betrayal of the Kurds not to be disqualifying in itself.


    When a GWB-type returns as a GOP president, protects Kurds but also goes well beyond (many police actions, offensive wars rather than defensive), JE or someone like him will do another about-face. As they mock GWB now & praise Trump. in the future (if we have one), they will mock Trump & praise the new Bush.

    In the meantime, ISIS likely won't just be causing problems in northern Syria. Or just in Europe.
    722) Message boards : Politics : The end of the U.S democracy is near! (Message 2015436)
    Posted 14 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull the fantasy world you are living in is scary. Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Dull here is one for ya.

    WHAT ICE REVEALS ABOUT ITSELF WHEN IT DETAINS U.S. CITIZENS
    https://theappeal.org/what-ice-reveals-about-itself-when-it-detains-u-s-citizens/
    Here's another
    After more than 3 weeks, ICE releases U.S. citizen from custody

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/23/detained-american-citizen-border-immigration-1428424
    Here are a bunch more.
    ICE Is Dangerously Inaccurate

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/opinion/ice-raids.html


    I was told Saturday morning I "look like a Salazar". My ancestry is English, German & Irish, I think the woman that said it may herself be Hispanic. But I'm not. I've heard 4 times before that I look Hispanic. Once was definitely from a Mexican. So, if they can't tell, I don't trust ICE to be able to tell, either.
    723) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015222)
    Posted 12 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No need to respond to him. He's also just running his mouth.
    Just have to. There are so many misconceptions from American people about European countries. Many that are hilarious:)


    Look how he just said "you" "lost in the war on terror".

    I'm not for the US having non-defensive wars and our multiple police actions. I also don't hide inside, fearing a terrorist attack. But it is foolhardy to think Turkey's actions in Syria, against the Kurds, resulting in some ISIS prisoners escaping ... will lead to peaceful results.

    What do you think his stance on the war on terror was before Trump was elected? Maybe our resident archivist can dig up some old posts to inform us?
    Even if he'd been against it, what about Trump supporters in general?

    Some people have misconceptions.
    Others are inconsistent.
    And yet others will take on a position to see what will provoke a (negative?) response. Trump himself did it. 5 positions in 5 minutes to see what would get the best reaction.
    724) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2015079)
    Posted 11 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    moomin you seem to have a lot to say regarding the Kurds.........exactly how many Swedish troops are being sent to defend them?......just asking.
    Everyone is always willing to run their mouth but when the shooting starts they want the US to ride to the rescue. I do not agree with the decision but maybe the almighty UN should do something for a change? Besides talk about it.
    Because the UN haven't requested any military support from Sweden.
    When asked Sweden might engage like we done in Afghanistan, Mali, Libya, Egypt, Congo, Cyprus and other nations over time.
    https://www.government.se/government-policy/sweden-and-the-un/
    Then Sweden has only a defense. Not an army fighting "overseas" to "protect" Swedish interests in a specific region.
    We have a lot of refugees that are Kurds here though...
    Özz Nûjen for instance - Swedish relation to the US https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c05l2Xe_xI


    No need to respond to him. He's also just running his mouth.
    725) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014767)
    Posted 9 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I AGREE SUPERTrump. F**K dA MIDLLEast. F**K TURKEY.

    I ENJOYED Livin' in Ankara and Bahrain.

    Shed Blood fO 'em. F**K 'em.

    LET 'em FIGHT IT OUT. SAME as It Ever Was.

    Time fO RUBEWorld to Take Care of RUBEWorld

    Tasty ORANGe and DELICIOUS YAPe


    Dear not-so-smart-guy, Turkey is the bridge between Europe & Asia. Yep, Turkey is part-European, just likes youze. And dem Kurds, they be not so far away. So dey must be kinda like u. So u must be wanning supahtrump to supahtrump ya and killa ya. Now y don u go n simma donna?
    726) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014682)
    Posted 8 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump today.
    So many people conveniently forget that Turkey is a big trading partner of the United States, in fact they make the structural steel frame for our F-35 Fighter Jet. They have also been good to deal with, helping me to save many lives at Idlib Province, and returning, in very good health, at my request, Pastor Brunson, who had many years of a long prison term remaining. Also remember, and importantly, that Turkey is an important member in good standing of NATO.

    Meanwhile Turkey (Erdogan) will go after the Kurds, the US allies in the war against the Califat. And Turkey will also bying S-400 missiles from Russia.
    Then Trump says
    We may be in the process of leaving Syria, but in no way have we Abandoned the Kurds, who are special people and wonderful fighters. Likewise our relationship with Turkey, a NATO and Trading partner, has been very good. Turkey already has a large Kurdish population and fully understands that while we only had 50 soldiers remaining in that section of Syria, and they have been removed, any unforced or unnecessary fighting by Turkey will be devastating to their economy and to their very fragile currency. We are helping the Kurds financially/weapons!
    Doesn't Trump understand that Turkey (Erdogan) want the Kurds to be eradicated?


    There are two possibilities: he understands & doesn't care; he doesn't understand; or he's playing 26-dimensional checkers.
    727) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014447)
    Posted 6 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how many more whistleblowers does it take, before Trump calls on his loyal flock to march on Washington, and start a new civil war?

    Three. Everything comes in threes! :)


    "Always two there are. One master, one apprentice."
    728) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014297)
    Posted 5 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Repuglican Porn?
    or
    How Repuglicans pleasure themselves?

    Losing my mind while ROTFLMAO.


    The biggest sign this is fake news is the idea that Barron would wait in line after Eric.
    729) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014203)
    Posted 4 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You forgot, of course, to reference AP's "Obama talking about himself in an almost obsessive manner is no new phenomenon" which I additionally underlined above.
    This was well known and reported on during his Presidency.
    Clyde "Liberal"

    Sorry Clyde you provide no link to an AP story of Obama's penchant for self-reference.
    Why are we even talking about Obama when the pig in the sty is tRump.
    I do miss Obama.
    If i were to name 4 Presidents they would be
    Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Obama.


    I don't miss his drone strikes in other countries.
    But then, I rue Trump's drone strikes in other countries.
    Or, more correctly, strikes they authorize(d).
    730) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2014166)
    Posted 4 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano argued in a column and video published on FoxNews.com Thursday morning that President Donald Trump’s possible “criminal behavior” with regard to Ukraine is impeachable, and that his threats against the whistleblower are dangerous.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-trump-attacks-presidency
    Yes... FOX!

    Scaramouch, Paul Ryan, FOX, and others bailing on the "Commander in Chief".
    The "Life After Trump" movement is gathering steam.
    tRump isn't the villain here, the real losers are those who failed the "tRump IQ test" and supported him.
    tRump successfully milked "STUPID" for all he could.
    The dividends will keep coming cause "stupid is what stupid does".

    Napolitano has been talking this way for weeks. Old news.
    Oh, sorry. I'm supposedly an ideologue and so ... (oh, scheizz, dis is going in his cut/paste file and certain things will be left out)
    wow, thank you for this info!
    731) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013904)
    Posted 1 Oct 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yesterday the Ukraine and today it's Australia.

    Trump pressed Australian P.M. for help investigating Mueller inquiry into Russian election interference. (more to come)

    Behind the paywall, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html, maybe more info.

    So Clyde, why do you keep defending the behaviour of idiots and criminals?


    Making Australian Great Presciptions into Eternity.
    732) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013800)
    Posted 30 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm so glad Ukrainian corruption is being dealt with, as that's what the 2016 election was for, to Make Ukraine Great.
    733) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013734)
    Posted 29 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When all you watch on TV is Cartoons,
    other people do your thinking with internet memes.

    You know things are getting really serious by how often tRump supporters screech.


    734) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013459)
    Posted 27 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... well, you can't get fooled again ... YEAH! Meet the new boss. Same as the ... ."
    Indeed:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htz9CS-Zmms
    735) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013446)
    Posted 27 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do believe Mr Rump has confirmed he asked Mr. Putin to interfere in the last election.

    ‘He that deceives me once, its his fault; but if twice, its my fault.'

    Con men run the same scam all the time.


    "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... well, you can't get fooled again ... YEAH! Meet the new boss. Same as the ... ."
    736) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013389)
    Posted 26 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump acting world leader:)
    "I know that you have never been to Ukraine. And your predecessor – how to say it in English – did not find the time. So, can you give me your word that you will come to our great country?" Zelensky asked Trump during a bilateral meeting in New York City on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.
    In turn, Trump replied: "Well, I'm gonna try." "I know a lot of people from Ukraine. They are great people," Trump said and recalled that he had owned the Miss Universe pageants many years ago, and once they had had a winner from Ukraine. "Ukraine is a country with tremendous potential," he said.


    Just in case nobody's interested, I briefly dated a Ukrainian woman. She hadn't won any Miss Universe pageants. In fact, she was differently abled. But still .. wow. :)
    737) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013307)
    Posted 25 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well here is the transcript from Trump's and Zelensky's phone call.
    Yes they talked about Biden and his son and also about the prosecutor general in Ukraine.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
    https://www.unian.info/politics/10698366-white-house-publishes-transcript-of-july-25-phone-call-between-trump-and-zelensky.html
    The call was 30 minutes long so obviously the transcript is not complete.


    Look, it was a "perfect" conversation and that's all we ... err,r, I mean Democratic politicians ... need to know.
    738) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2013176)
    Posted 24 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rube world = Oozlum bird, Ha Ha Ha
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oozlum_bird


    A good, strong, beautiful bird. Had a perfect conversation with one once.
    739) Message boards : Politics : "They can't stop all of us..." (Message 2013157)
    Posted 24 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is a good idea!

    +1
    740) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2012493)
    Posted 19 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh!

    Fetid smell left today. It will take it a while to blow across the country to DC, the source will get there sooner.

    Dust Bowl? Lies!
    741) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2011900)
    Posted 14 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A big win for Trump.
    Number of Americans Without Health Insurance Increased in 2018, Report Finds

    This is keeping a promise to his base. What's not to like?
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/fewer-americans-health-insurance-2018-report.html

    Yes, he wants you too sick to work so you have to be on welfare benefits!


    No, just sick enough to work but too sick and too tired to realize just how you should take care of yourself. Like the stereotypical 1950s father.
    742) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 2011725)
    Posted 12 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fox News - El Paso 'hero' arrested by Secret Service before meeting Trump at White House
    A Texas man touted as a hero following last month's mass shooting at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas, was detained by Secret Service agents upon his arrival at the White House on Monday due to an outstanding criminal warrant, according to a report.

    And now authorities say Chris Grant, 50, may have lied about his supposedly heroic deeds amid gunfire that left 22 people dead and about two dozen more wounded.

    But El Paso police spokesman Sgt. Enrique Carrillo told the Washington Examiner that Grant’s “statements were inconsistent with what was revealed on video." He said Grant was visible in the footage but did not reveal what his actions were.

    "Nobody bothered to check with us," El Paso police spokesman Sgt. Enrique Carrillo told the Examiner. "They would have been informed, as I am telling you now, that our detectives reviewed hours of video and his actions did not match his account."


    Seriously? FOX would report that? Essentially a retraction? Must be the Shep Smith/Chris Wallace wing. Maybe Bret Baier?
    743) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2011724)
    Posted 12 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yup.......the Donald is living in Liberal heads rent free............
    And that is the pinnacle of success for a narcissist. {the country can go to hell}

    Golly Gee Wiz, imagine that, American Citizens conscious of who their President is.
    Given the worthless piece of trash he is I suspect most would just like to forget.


    Sounds like you have a problem with we posters in the USA and you should take it to the gripe thread. Also sounds like you have a sweeping generalization problem. And that's not a gripe. That's about how people discuss things. [For our overlords. measuring things.]
    744) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2011528)
    Posted 10 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rent free, my butt.
    It's paid for by our taxes.
    745) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2011486)
    Posted 10 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    moomin....here's another progressive Swedish Idea...makes hail to the Chief sound good.
    https://www.lacortenews.com/n/swedish-scientist-suggests-eating-humans-to-combat-climate-change?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1CQLpkOf031Lp-op7miR9nVeV0nZwv7pc6ylVcX-IeAZ4IvFp6rOIU3hc
    Swedish scientist suggests eating humans to combat climate change
    LOL:) Magnus Söderlund is NOT a scientist. He is a professor of business economics! Just like Trump.
    https://nyheteridag.se/heberlein-ett-ansprakslost-forslag-ar-2019-nar-manniskokott-skulle-radda-klimatet/ In Swedish but use your computer translator tool.
    During the week, a bizarre proposal to investigate the possibility of eating human flesh - as some form of climate action - was given to the media in earnest by big-eyed journalists. Without critical countermeasures or questions. That such a crazy idea is not immediately dismissed as a bad joke or pure idiocy is ominous, writes Ann Heberlein.
    And it's not a Swedish idea. Actually it's an old Irish idea.
    In 1729, Jonathan Swift launched an idea of ​​how to solve the famine that plagued Ireland's poor. In an article entitled "A Modest Proposal for Preventing the Children of Poor People from Being a Burden of Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Public", he suggested that poor parents sell their children as delicacies to the rich people.
    But Jonathan Swift wrote that article as a satire. Nothing else!
    I suggest you should read news more carefully:)
    Magnus Söderlund https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_S%C3%B6derlund


    C'mon, suggesting reading "news more carefully" must be some sort of personal gripe, right? You need to "couch" such admonitions in more general, less stern tones.
    746) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010963)
    Posted 6 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's about cleaning while bored.
    Burn calories at the keyboard.
    :)
    747) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010826)
    Posted 5 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Down there in (I blame) O(la)bama?
    (Because DJT is not the only one measuring, lol! P.S.-Rushdie's on TV!)
    748) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010794)
    Posted 5 Sep 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spot the difference

    After tweet https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1168174613827899393




    During his briefing.


    "I can assure you, there's no problem ... down there."
    749) Message boards : Politics : The end of the U.S democracy is near! (Message 2010243)
    Posted 31 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lol...make that 2028 as well. :_)

    How many decades will the Trump crime family rule as dictators?
    That is the question, not if.....


    Don't forget, HRC isn't running this time.
    750) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010090)
    Posted 31 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This has thrown the missile and arms control community on the Twitter-sphere into a frenzy.
    It is an amazing thing for a US president to do, giving all Washington's enemies a very public insight into its extraordinary intelligence-gathering capabilities.
    What a bozo!




    ?
    751) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010066)
    Posted 30 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Madeleine is the key. She's the secret," Mr Trump said.
    According to CBS, Mr Trump has also often referred to her as "my beauty".
    Trump's "beauty" fired


    Beat you to it. :)
    752) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 2010013)
    Posted 30 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FOX found the leaker!
    Comey's been exonerated!!!
    753) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2010012)
    Posted 30 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At last:)
    Trump statue erected in Melania's home country Slovenia
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49514462

    Seems like they missed the torch though...


    Home town, as well?
    754) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2009236)
    Posted 25 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    its practice typically shares the same principle beliefs of ... anti-conservatism.

    I guess the real GOP has all died. Must only be RINO's left in the party.


    People have responded with "How is this not socialism" to Trump's "order" to corporations late last week. Unfortunately, the right has managed to muddy the waters for decades. They claim the Nazis were not extreme right, they were socialists. Some, because of the name of the group, when translated. Others, precisely because of their economic practice. These people also claim that socialism leads to communism, when the idea was that communism would lead to socialism and that the government would be the *people*. The extreme right (Nazi Germany/Mussolini's Italy) and the extreme left (USSR) meet in totalitarianism. The difference between fascism's mix with the corporations and socialism;s is the direction: fascist is top down.
    755) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2009206)
    Posted 25 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he has ordered American companies to exit China...


    The POTUS ordering private businesses around telling them how to do business... How is this not socialism?


    What is a Fascist Economy?"
    756) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2008981)
    Posted 23 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's certainly the king of selfish lowlifes.

    He is a two year old, and Mom just told him no so he is going to throw a temper tantrum. This is not how a sane adult handles being told no.


    1) Obama is visiting Denmark soon after the no-longer-happening Trump visit. There wasn't enough time to get Danish escorts to pre-wet the bed for Obama.
    2) Trump really believes in anthropogenic climate change and is simply trying to buy us a place for us to evacuate to.


    8+ hours, uncontested.
    Tired of winning.


    I'm still winning.
    Just so you know.
    757) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2008891)
    Posted 23 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's certainly the king of selfish lowlifes.

    He is a two year old, and Mom just told him no so he is going to throw a temper tantrum. This is not how a sane adult handles being told no.


    1) Obama is visiting Denmark soon after the no-longer-happening Trump visit. There wasn't enough time to get Danish escorts to pre-wet the bed for Obama.
    2) Trump really believes in anthropogenic climate change and is simply trying to buy us a place for us to evacuate to.


    8+ hours, uncontested.
    Tired of winning.
    758) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2008819)
    Posted 22 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's certainly the king of selfish lowlifes.

    He is a two year old, and Mom just told him no so he is going to throw a temper tantrum. This is not how a sane adult handles being told no.


    1) Obama is visiting Denmark soon after the no-longer-happening Trump visit. There wasn't enough time to get Danish escorts to pre-wet the bed for Obama.
    2) Trump really believes in anthropogenic climate change and is simply trying to buy us a place for us to evacuate to.
    759) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2008678)
    Posted 21 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Politically building a wall is more important to Trump than science.


    I wonder if we could build a radio telescope that just happens to look/act like a border wall. Two for the price of one?

    Tom


    +1
    760) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2008677)
    Posted 21 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Apparently this is again relevant......
    Not the 'source of fake news ' but he is the source of 'dancing bears and puppets '............

    Pwned.
    761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2007580)
    Posted 15 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Signs of Thor have been noticeably absent these last few days in this neck of the woods.
    762) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2007577)
    Posted 15 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, unfortunately, things like this can then be used by those currently oppressed by such an approach to do the same type of oppression when they're in power.
    763) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2007453)
    Posted 15 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think King may be working under the Ham/Hovind hypothesis regarding the rate of populating?
    764) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2007132)
    Posted 13 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The problem with every universal statement is that ... .
    Oh ... .
    Carry on.
    765) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2007082)
    Posted 13 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Political Ads don't change people's opinions, just enthusiasm to come out and vote.
    Well the US voting turnouts tell a different story. And are there any real "get registered to vote" ads in the US without the candidate giving a whole list of things that the opponent can't handle according to the candidate and saying "It will be a change" without saying how it will be changed?


    The product ads don't change people's opinions, just enthusiasm to go out and buy.
    Tide is the best detergent! Best you can do is get me to try Tide Pods,
    You'll never get me to try Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent!!!
    766) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2006866)
    Posted 11 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pro Hillary, Pro Democrat and Never Trumping Facebook and Google influenced between 2 and 10 million voters?


    Fascinating. Never saw word one from Marky Mark Suckerberg about for whom to vote. Perhaps Taylor Swift had more influence, by November 2018?

    Understanding that we must, as with the Capitalist Monopoly's of the 19th Century. Break up these 21st Century Capitalist Monopoly's.


    Of course!
    But, could we also break up the Socialist monopolies as well?

    IMHO: People listen to those agreeing with their preconceived beliefs and then vote.


    That would argue against "one becomes more conservative as they age" or any such shift. If one only listens to those agreeing with their preconceived notions, one is unlikely to shift. And we know shifting can and does occur.
    767) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2006862)
    Posted 11 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Too soon?......................naw..........



    CNY? Lulz!
    WJC is just demonstrating how to unlock the door for his long-time close friend, DJT.
    768) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2006725)
    Posted 10 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More undocumented workers employed by Trump's Trump’s construction company, Mobile Payroll Construction LLC.

    For nearly two decades, the Trump Organization has relied on a roving crew of Latin American employees to build fountains and waterfalls, sidewalks and rock walls at the company’s winery and its golf courses from New York to Florida.

    Other employees at Trump clubs were so impressed by the laborers — who did strenuous work with heavy stone — that they nicknamed them “Los Picapiedras,” Spanish for “the Flintstones.”

    For years, their ranks have included workers who entered the United States illegally, according to two former members of the crew. Another employee, still with the company, said that remains true today.


    https://thehill.com/latino/456868-trump-org-uses-construction-company-that-hires-undocumented-workers-report


    No surprise?
    769) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2006362)
    Posted 8 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SO FULL of HATE, is dA LEFT

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/08/07/netflixs-dear-white-people-depicts-trump-supporters-as-kkk-members


    Well, a few of them actually are KKK members: the Klan did officially endorse Trump for POTUS in its publication The Crusader. (David Duke did as well.) Trump's campaign was quick to reject these endorsements (he took a little longer but eventually did, but this is not atypical... politicians don't like saying no to votes), but there you have it.

    I'm sure that the Communist party and other radical parties on the "left" also endorse the Democrats just as unwantedly too.


    Well, we could look it up. Errr, I mean ... google it.
    770) Message boards : Politics : "They can't stop all of us..." (Message 2005816)
    Posted 5 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    You find this image funny?
    771) Message boards : Politics : "They can't stop all of us..." (Message 2005815)
    Posted 5 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only response I can think of is "You wanna make a bet?" It will be interesting to see just what lengths the government will go to in keeping the lunatic fringe out of the base.


    The stormers ARE this government's base.
    772) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2005279)
    Posted 2 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Paul Whelan, an American citizen, has been held captive by Russia since late December on dubious spying charges.
    POTUS has not posted a single tweet about Mr. Whelan.
    Shouldn't the Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs Robert O'Brien be in Moscow instead of Stockholm?

    You don't piss off the person who elected you!


    Yeah, Vlad, stop p!55!ng me off! I mean ... ummm ... errrr.

    How about that Ajit Pai post?
    773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 2005253)
    Posted 1 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor visited at 3. Left the office at 4 and only Thor's dark clouds remained. :(
    774) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2005252)
    Posted 1 Aug 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What? Ajit Pai actually doing something for the people, regarding robo-calls? Then again, maybe it took hospitals being over-run by the robo-calls to finally prompt action?
    775) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2004837)
    Posted 30 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ivanka Trump congratulated Boris with this Tweet:)

    The Trump Family is something else. LOL.

    Probably so, but what's out of the ordinary in this respect?

    covfefe perhaps?

    SSDD, then.
    776) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2004781)
    Posted 29 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ivanka Trump congratulated Boris with this Tweet:)

    The Trump Family is something else. LOL.

    Probably so, but what's out of the ordinary in this respect?
    777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 2004680)
    Posted 28 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lovely that you have done so much for this again!
    Would be great to get 2 - XL. Prefer black but one of each color would be great as well.

    Wearing my 15 year shirts around Philadelphia a number of people have asked me about SETI@home and seemed interested. :)


    I didn't get similar questions there. :(

    778) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2004679)
    Posted 28 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey! What's new in Baltimore?
    I don't know!
    Hey! What's new in Baltimore?
    Better go back and find out


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-7K-MP80c


    779) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2004228)
    Posted 25 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Presidential Seal, showing ties with Russia and his favourite sport.


    3 days & that's the only thing posted in this thread?
    780) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002675)
    Posted 15 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My point wasn't about immigration, but rather that he just called his own government, of which he is the leader "a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world..." etc.


    As he doesn't (on some level) believe (or is acting as if he doesn't believe) the Congresswomen "are from here", that would not be what he said, etc. ... .
    781) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002649)
    Posted 15 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm surprised no one has picked up on Trump's wording yet...

    So interesting to see 'Progressive' Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all)


    Er... three of his intended targets were born in the United States of America, so this is the country they "originally came from."


    It's not as if this hadn't been addressed eksewhere.
    It's not as if we need to repeat all of that here.
    And isn't it implied ... that if we were literally followed his directive, it would be (as I said) all of us flooding back to Africa?
    Sigh.
    782) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002647)
    Posted 15 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG. Pastor Steven Anderson sounds very Swedish to me:)
    Actually he has been to our country and about to come here again soon.
    Add some spooky music to this https://www.varldenidag.se/nyheter/okand-hatpredikant-kan-vara-pa-vag-till-sverige/repscC!ubEG1ph0svD7PMRX13zJAA/
    OK. A bit off topic since Trump is not religious at all:)

    With a last name of Anderson, some Nordic background is perhaps likely?
    And, while I'm free-associating and being sarcastic, this is not exactly off-topic. It addresses what you, and Mr. Kevvy immediately prior, discussed. (I also typed it elsewhere, a little earlier in the day, before seeing what you & Mr. Kevvy had written.)
    What? I have not discussed anything with Mr. Kevvy so what do you mean?


    I didn't say you did. However, what you said plus what he said just prior to you (as well as one more prior to that by Bernie Vine) are linked.
    783) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002605)
    Posted 14 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG. Pastor Steven Anderson sounds very Swedish to me:)
    Actually he has been to our country and about to come here again soon.
    Add some spooky music to this https://www.varldenidag.se/nyheter/okand-hatpredikant-kan-vara-pa-vag-till-sverige/repscC!ubEG1ph0svD7PMRX13zJAA/
    OK. A bit off topic since Trump is not religious at all:)


    With a last name of Anderson, some Nordic background is perhaps likely?
    And, while I'm free-associating and being sarcastic, this is not exactly off-topic. It addresses what you, and Mr. Kevvy immediately prior, discussed. (I also typed it elsewhere, a little earlier in the day, before seeing what you & Mr. Kevvy had written.)
    784) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002594)
    Posted 14 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aha! It's the " “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world" as the Genius says, that is the US worst problem:) LOL:)
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
    Sigh...
    But does not Trump having a hate speech, both racial and gender, at Twitter, right now?
    Jeeez...


    If Donny wants us to go back to our original countries, guess over 7 billion people will be flooding eastern and southern Africa. Perhaps Ethiopia? Maybe this is his way of getting the Evangelicals to help in more archaeological digs? It'd be hilarious for some member of the NIFB "church" discovering the next Lucy.
    Make "Pastor" Steven Anderson dig again.
    785) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002209)
    Posted 12 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you saying Eye lives in an echo chamber?


    When you can't shoot a bear either on the Eastern plains or the Western Slope, all you can do is fart in your skillet, hear it echo, and they eat it?
    786) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2002050)
    Posted 11 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Laffernomics
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/12/why-are-we-still-pretending-trickle-down-economics-work
    It all began in 1974, when Laffer walked into a bar with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who were working for the Ford administration at the time. Out of it came the “Laffer curve,” a U-shaped graph illustrating the relationship between tax rates and revenue.
    The Laffer curve has done immense damage to the US economy in the 40 years since its inception. It also ignores a fundamental reality: tax cuts for the rich don’t work.
    Each and every time state or federal governments have tested Laffer’s trickle-down theory, deficits balloon, rich folks hoard their wealth at the top, and average Americans suffer.



    I tried to find out a lot of information about the Laffer Curve just a few years ago. I seem to recall reading posts at The Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, for example. To the best of my recollection and to the best I could tell, the Laffer curve was developed based on "the way things we think they ought to be" rather than statistical analysis of existing data.
    787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 2002049)
    Posted 11 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posting this for Uli.

    This years artwork.


    No more out of stock messages by this weekend. Black and white shirts sixes M, L, XL and 2XL will be available again.

    So don't hesitate to send me a pm.

    @Sarge Yours will be the first to get shipped.


    PM me expected shipment date?
    788) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001963)
    Posted 10 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is mainly for Clyde, as he keeps repeating Trump's claim that the Christopher Steele dossier is bogus.

    Reuters - Trump 'dossier' author grilled by Justice Department watchdogs: sources

    In that same month, Attorney General William Barr, who now heads the Justice Department, told a congressional committee that the Horowitz probe would be completed by May or June.

    One of the two sources said Horowitz’s investigators appear to have found Steele’s information sufficiently credible to have to extend the investigation. Its completion date is now unclear.


    Well ... he ... says ... a lot of stuff.
    789) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001802)
    Posted 9 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://apnews.com/7cd0c552a20d4a62a7efcba5699638a1
    Guess r/the_donald is the only thing left that is right enough for his spew

    “Fox News is changing fast, but they forgot the people who got them there,” Trump wrote.
    What does he mean? Is Fox News paid by Trump?
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1148016424864104448


    The media got Trump to where he is. Typical projection.
    790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric (Message 2001801)
    Posted 9 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not sure if he is fishing, in the lab or enjoying some home backed chocolate cake. Where ever he might be.
    Happy Birthday Eric


    Ditto!
    791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations OzzFan... a married man as of today!!! (Message 2001799)
    Posted 9 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Sirius. She's more than made an honest man out of me. She's kept me afloat during some very rough times and I love her all the more for it. She's an amazing person and I'm delighted that she said yes.


    Congratulations!
    792) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001633)
    Posted 8 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Milkshaked
    793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 2001578)
    Posted 8 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please do me a great favor and pm me your name and address. Without the info, I can't ship them.


    Anxiously awaiting mine,
    794) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001577)
    Posted 8 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1 Sarge.

    OBW, didn't they have a conspiracy theory about a master race?


    Yes.
    Think I'll switch to history.
    I did usually kick butt in those classes.
    Shouldn't be to hard to knock out a Ph.D.. in that area.
    (To the super-morons, that means "complete", not "knock out" as in punch or milkshaking.)
    795) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001568)
    Posted 8 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Image of:
    Thoma Sowell wrote:
    In a sense, the political left's attempts to silence ideas they cannot, or will not, debate are a confession of intellectual bankruptcy.

    Is adding a user to your ignore list a similar confession?


    Can't believe we fought the Axis. Should've gone the Chamberlain route: debate and appease.
    PS: note to morons, that's sarcasm.
    PPS: note to morons and super-liars, the Axis was on the political right.
    796) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001133)
    Posted 5 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got a message from my future self, dated 2020 Nov 4.
    Kamala Harris is POTUS, Pete Buttigieg is VPOTUS.
    Both Houses of Congress are controlled by Democrats.
    Get ready for some real change!


    Please, not them. No change.
    797) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001081)
    Posted 4 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The super orange country says no. Trump is a loser according to them.


    A *sore* loser.
    798) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 2001080)
    Posted 4 Jul 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Today it's Fourth of July.
    Trump. Please don't mess that up.
    Why a military parade? Tanks on the streets?
    That's Putin style.
    ........Can you say 'France'?

    Of course. Vive la France:)
    Actually Trump was so delighted when visiting France two years ago at Bastille Day so here we go.
    Personally I think Russia's parades are better:)

    btw. Have you been to France at Bastille Day?
    I have twice:)


    Who cares if France has tanks out? This is America!!!
    799) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 2000366)
    Posted 30 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eastern European style authoritarianism is obsolete.
    800) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1999739)
    Posted 26 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fascism, Communism. Socialism, et al are the enemy of the people.
    And are you thinking of National Socialism somehow?
    Hm... I wonder if there is a National Capitalism political branch...
    Got it! The United States of America. MAGA:)
    MAGA? Does that mean that countries like Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and Venezuela will be great again as well?


    We've interfered ... we've worked to make those 3 ... those 4 Mexican countries great for decades! Just look at the excellent job we're doing so far!
    801) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1999479)
    Posted 24 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Surely, the large number that like to claim "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS) exists ... is a thing ... would nt be happy with statements such as he is "disgusting" and a "firm stance" against one f his "policies".
    802) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1999060)
    Posted 21 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I found this youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ipRaLa4Jw of our professor lecturing about socialism & again he contradicts himself.
    803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1998965)
    Posted 20 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the upper left coast I wish all a happy Thor's day
    Hail Thor and be happy


    As usual, Thor left as quickly as he arrived.
    804) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1998880)
    Posted 20 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shhhh. Their feelings don't care about your facts,

    +population of Earth


    Now nothing else I say can ever be as good as what I just said. Is this a good time for another departure?
    805) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1998848)
    Posted 19 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW 2: As I have posted a number of times. I disagree with any attempt, including Trump statement to deport a million people soon and possibly millions of people in the future.

    @Clyde....you do realize the deportation actions slated to start next week are aimed at specific individuals and groups that have been ordered to leave the country by a Federal Court? This is enforcement of a legal judgement, nothing more or less. Rule of law dictates there must be such enforcement when necessary.
    I don't think Trump actually mean what he says.
    "Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States. They will be removed as fast as they come in."
    That would be mass deportation with lot of administration and logistics. Would be like in some countries in Europe in the 30's and 40's...
    Interesting though is that the number of illegal aliens today in the US has dropped to the level it was in 2004.
    And that it started to drop already in 2007, long before Trump was a president...
    5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/12/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


    Shhhh. Their feelings don't care about your facts,
    806) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1998827)
    Posted 19 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump campaign says it will fire multiple pollsters after unflattering numbers leak.

    When your own pollsters can't supply the numbers that you want to hear, fire them and get some that can B.S. just as well you.

    ROFLMFAO!!!!!

    Will that include Fox News.
    				Approve 	Disapprove	Don't Know
    Latest (9-12 Jun 19) 		45% 		53		3
    


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-6-16


    .....because the Dim pollsters were so much better in 2016......

    The only poll that matters involves a ballot.......

    These polls were all conducted by Trump acolytes, not a dim in sight, and they still can't poll results that show approval for dangerous donald.


    Dangerous.
    Deranged.
    Dozey.
    Don.
    807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 1998498)
    Posted 17 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Today is my 20th SETI anniversary! Do you have the t-shirts available in larger sizes? I am interested if you do!


    Well, I'm formerly obese, now in the healthy range, still large t-shirt size and those are available. So ... .
    808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 1998202)
    Posted 14 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shakes her head. Doesn't it say not to late. Maybe time to fix the spelling error.
    Please let me know, if there are any special request sizes you may have. I am hoping to put in another order on the 21st.


    It may not be the shirt timing issue, but an issue of timing in some other way.
    809) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997864)
    Posted 12 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now to get away from the stupidity of others and back to the subject.

    More China tariffs could push the US into a ‘Trump recession,’ CEO says.

    However, Shapiro said he believes that countries like the U.S., Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand share a “cultural bond” that will drive them together.
    And he could be very wrong there as many are getting very sick of the so called "American Way" (especially of v2.0's "American Way" which has more greed behind it than usual), meanwhile that doesn't take into account the unsustainable financial bubble that the U.S. is riding ATM which is now looking more like a double whammy (but what do idiots like v2.0 know?).


    Europe is one heck of an awesome country. And our common bond couldn't possibly explain quotas in past decades on Irish immigrants Or Italian immigrants. Or ... .
    810) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997862)
    Posted 12 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye why are you so fixated on the D's impeaching the POTUS when everyone knows the senate will not convict?


    Eye, why are you so fixated on D's impeaching the POTUS when 99.44% of your R's policies suck and actually impact your day to day life?
    811) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997363)
    Posted 8 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But then Sarah Sanders, White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary, believes God wanted Donald Trump to become president in 2016.
    "So let it be written"...
    moomin, why do you and others insist and persist in demeaning others for their religious beliefs?

    What someone believes is between them and their God, or whatever deity the believe or do not believe in.

    That's the kind of discrimination that started the holocaust. You expect everyone to be accepting and open minded regarding your views, yet when they voice their own you heap ridicule as do others in this forum (i.e. "Fairies in the Sky"). So what you actually mean is you are accepting of other points of view as long as the coincide with your own. Selective freedom of speech.

    You can worship a jar of Ludefisk for all I care, or not, as you desire. Don't make a point of trying to denigrate others for whatever blows their hair back, it just lessens your own position and erodes whatever respect they have FOR your position.

    If Sarah Sanders voices her belief in God, if people wish to Pray for The President, that's their prerogative and should not be a subject for disdain just as expression of LGBTQ beliefs or equality of races should not be treated with scorn.
    For heaven's sake! So to speak.
    I don't demean others for their religious beliefs.
    But I simply don't trust that Trump and Sanders have a religious belief.
    I BELIEVE they are lying about their religious belief and are hypocritics!
    I respect many people that have true religious beliefs but Trump and Sanders are NOT among them.
    That's my belief and I will continue to mock hypocritics.
    And it won't start any holocaust.

    btw. I don't worship a jar of Ludefisk what ever that is:)


    Holy sweet Stryper's, Batman! Moomim being mean/? Nah People he refers to or talks to.
    Hypocrisy? Yes. Persecution complex? Yes.
    812) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1997256)
    Posted 7 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your local NBC station fawned over Trump's visit to the Air Academy, so give us a break.
    813) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1997034)
    Posted 6 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ....and so 'Fake News' is calling the kettle black..........not unexpected.


    As I wish Donald Trump would be asked more often:

    What specific "fake" stories qualify this oft-repeated statement?
    What more reliable source(s) do you then propose?
    What independent entities have validated they are more reliable?


    Look, tariffs ... now watch this golf swing ... on intergalactic aliens will work! Believe me!
    Some of my own SETIzens are going ... and they don't to be doing this! Terrible, I'll tell you that! ... against me.
    Mitch McConnell, he's a good guy, except right now he's evil.
    Isn't Ivanka so beautiful?
    But, see, I just proved tariffs will work.
    814) Message boards : Politics : Big City Life. Unsustainable? (Message 1996343)
    Posted 2 Jun 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And here we will differ, at least a little :)

    It's not that you're wrong but... you're wrong :)

    Trump is not the cause. He is the effect.
    If an Obama presidency can deliver a Trump presidency ... what would a Hillary presidency deliver?

    (@ Gary However I am glad to hear Pasadena is not really a Hillary fan)


    I thought you were better than this. Never anywhere in that post nor anywhere else have I said Trump is a cause or an effect nor implied it.
    815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 1995800)
    Posted 29 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posting this for Uli.

    This years artwork.


    Just bumping the design.


    Two colors? Black and white? But one of the colors is out on certain sizes?
    816) Message boards : Politics : Big City Life. Unsustainable? (Message 1995362)
    Posted 26 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And Bernie could've turned a lot of it blue.

    And Obama could have too.... If he actually did anything in those years he had the senate on his side.
    But he sat on his hands.
    People voted for change. He didn't deliver.

    And why were smart people in the cities tripping over themselves to vote for Hillary? What was Hillary ever going to do for middle-class-city folk?

    It's a big club and we ain't in it.

    The day Amazon has to pay even a LITTLE bit of taxes, is the day any of us here has the right to say, "Yeah, I like my president."
    Until then we're just bickering over my-grifter-is-better-than-yours.


    And here we will differ, at least a little.
    HRC would not have set in motion or allowed for the attacks on Roe v. Wade.
    She would not have had tried a complete ban on Muslims.
    Had children in cages.
    So on and so forth.
    But, she most definitely was a flawed candidate.
    Perhaps we'd be interefering in Yemen more than we currently are under HRC?
    "Pick your poison," indeed.
    And what the Trumpists don't understand, is a good portion of us would have been fighting HRC on her worst impulses, had she won. People who'd only contacted their elected officials once in the previous 20 or so years contacting them multiple times now, never made political donations but making them now ... HRC's successes and failures would have been guiding the choices we'd make on those things, just like DJT's complete failures (except maybe something on criminal justice reform???) are guiding them now.
    817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Angela's birthday! (Message 1995070)
    Posted 24 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday Angela, even if you want to forget it. :-)

    I can never read Gary's small print. I must not be far behind in age.
    HBD, Angela!
    818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 1994945)
    Posted 24 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank all for your patience. I am back from a deserved vacation. I will catch up on orders and shipping this weekend.
    It is not to late to get your requests in.


    Please PM if it is still possible to put in an order.
    819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1994941)
    Posted 24 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor is active in these parts today.


    Ditto.
    820) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1994910)
    Posted 23 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's a result of population density, and that cities are frequently populated with centrist Democrats.
    Probably repeated in just about every other state, and if there are any democrats in rural areas they will tend to the fringes, politically as far away from the Republicans as they can get.

    You could ask from this map. "How did Clinton win the popular vote?"



    Perhaps generally true, but the map f WI is not showing a big city. Madison is north and west of there, roughly. Also a ways from Janesville & Milwaukee.

    I lived in WI 2 years. That yellow region looks like the nice country drive I took as an alternate route to Chicago.
    821) Message boards : Politics : NOTE: I stand for good stuff. I stand against bad stuff. Just thought you should know. That is all. Thank you. (Message 1993931)
    Posted 16 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How do I know which things are good things?
    Well ... .
    My donors tell me!
    822) Message boards : Politics : NOTE: I stand for good stuff. I stand against bad stuff. Just thought you should know. That is all. Thank you. (Message 1993930)
    Posted 16 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    42?
    823) Message boards : Politics : NOTE: I stand for good stuff. I stand against bad stuff. Just thought you should know. That is all. Thank you. (Message 1993900)
    Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get it? Got it? Good! (Sam Goody's!)
    824) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1993899)
    Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-and I suggested previously that, the reason for why, is that someone is lying.
    825) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1993898)
    Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It must be a terrible burden not being able to understand what others obviously and clearly do.

    Why some cannot understand that a primitive belief in a small ruling class of imperfect humans and some will be evil centralizing control of not only Government but also the 'Means of Production'.

    Has always and will always destroy the people.

    Is a great question.
    Is actually a dumb question. "Imperfect humans"? "People"? Are you saying that "people" are perfect & ruled by imperfection?


    Put another way, why one repeatedly says it will be that there is a small ruling class of imperfect humans (which is what we have now), when what many are calling for is widening the amount of input (multiple imperfect) people can have and hoping that we can come to concensus ... is a great question.
    826) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1993877)
    Posted 15 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm only guessing but I bet she loved the fact that Trump killed the TPP. Can't think of anything else off the top of my head but I'm sure there are a couple more. I really don't understand why she has to agree with Trump on anything? Why are you saying that?

    Again, my question was: Why are you afraid of A O-C?
    That's all I asked...
    (Forget Trump and Bernie and Biden for a minute)


    I have heard it said that the worst parts of TPP were put into NAFTA 2.0. True or not? And, if true, does that allow for the possibility of a resurrection og TPP?
    827) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1993679)
    Posted 14 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A O-C is playing Repugs and Fox for the fools that they are.
    They just can't stop talking about her, and stuffing their Jack-Booted feet in their mouths while doing so.
    The more they attack her the more Democrats listen to, and like her.
    Fox is making her a Super Star, all the while she's living rent free in the
    heads of the Dittoheads who take their daily marching orders from Fox News.


    It's not the left the right hates, it's the pundits on MSNBC, who are pretty much Republican​s or Republican​-lite.
    828) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1993678)
    Posted 14 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not the left the right hates, it's the pundits on MSNBC, who are pretty much Republican​s or Republican​-lite.
    829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1993279)
    Posted 9 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor is active in these parts today.
    830) Message boards : Politics : Abortion and Birth Control (Message 1992894)
    Posted 7 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, they're allowed out of the house there? :-O


    Who would buy the groceries?
    831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We lost another Setizen (Message 1992841)
    Posted 6 May 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R.I.P.
    832) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1991917)
    Posted 29 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's not forget who originally enlisted Steele to investigate.
    The Washington Free Beacon

    And what the Obama DOJ and FBI then did for apparent political reasons.
    They added it to the already open investigation.


    Is there a glitch in where posts with quotes are showing up within the thread??
    833) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1991467)
    Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, just in case anyone would like to use the report's exoneration of Donald Trump's involvement in Russian interference in the 2016 election to also claim that such never happened... well, give it a read. The complete redacted report, all 448 pages of it, can be read online or downloaded from here.

    Only 9 pages in, in the introduction to Volume 1:

    The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.


    It goes into much detail... the Internet Research Agency was of course behind it, and payments in BitCoin were not enough to stop the funds being traced. Basically all of this was known before the report was released anyways, right from the days following the election.

    (No, I'm not claiming the election is somehow now invalid... there's no provision for that anyways.) The only ambiguity was whether Donald Trump was personally involved. So far that has not been established, so the presumption of innocence applies.

    Understanding that Obstruction of Justice is a problem (big?) for Trump.

    The Trump/Russia Delusion hysteria and the so-called Steele dossier, a political opposition research hit on Trump, funded in part by Hillary Clinton, that was provided to American intelligence and law enforcement, and formed the basis for the investigation.

    Is a problem (big?) for the DNC and Obama's Administration's DOJ and FBI.

    Both sides may face criminal charges.

    BTW: Russia's historical attempt to influence elections is a real concern. But should not deflect attention from the more concerning activities of both political sides inside the USA.

    There is a fact checker article in the WaPo of the Steele document as reported in the Mueller report. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/24/what-steele-dossier-said-vs-what-mueller-report-said/?utm_term=.dfc7ca356027
    Basically all it says the only thing not factual is Cohen's visit to Prague. Otherwise,
    The dossier itself was not intended to be published and consists largely of rumors and gossip — the starting point for investigative reporters and law enforcement officials, not the end point.


    Plus it must be noted as I have said before the Russia interference investigation started months before the FBI and others received the dossier, so therefore cannot be the basis for the investigation.

    Thius has been regurgitated many times and it appears that you are incapable of reading the posts and links of others. Stop repeating unsubstantiated opinion.


    Let's not forget who originally enlisted Steele to investigate.
    834) Message boards : Politics : North Korea Part 4 (Message 1990886)
    Posted 21 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I also seriously doubt if murdering and enslaving Kim will eventually take the correct course of action for his people.
    Does anybody?
    However his people still love and adore Kim. When at last the Korean people learned that Kim was abroad meeting Trump they all burst out in tears because they missed their great leader. Well almost everyone anyway:)

    Would the enslaving be before the murdering? Or, would we remove another head of state, murder him & then enslave him? Has quantum mechanic switched the direction of Time's Arrow?

    As with the German people under mass murdering Hitler, or the Russian people under mass murdering and enslaving Stalin.
    That a people may "love and adore" a murdering and enslaving Leader. Is irrelevant in stopping a Hitler, Stalin or Kim type threatening more millions.
    A poll recently done in Russia shows that Stalin's approval rating among Russians hits record high.
    Blin. That's crazy!
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/16/stalins-approval-rating-among-russians-hits-record-high-poll-a65245
    I don't think there are any polls in NK, but if it were, the result will probably be a 99.99% approval to Kim Jong-un...


    Hitler was mass murdered?
    835) Message boards : Politics : North Korea Part 4 (Message 1990762)
    Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I also seriously doubt if murdering and enslaving Kim will eventually take the correct course of action for his people.
    Does anybody?
    However his people still love and adore Kim. When at last the Korean people learned that Kim was abroad meeting Trump they all burst out in tears because they missed their great leader. Well almost everyone anyway:)


    Would the enslaving be before the murdering? Or, would we remove another head of state, murder him & then enslave him? Has quantum mechanic switched the direction of Time's Arrow?
    836) Message boards : Politics : North Korea Part 4 (Message 1990761)
    Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Donald Trump is preparing for his second summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, he said on Monday while meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-preparing-2nd-summit-kim-nuclear-progress/story?id=58049260

    miner edit.


    How about dat new testing?
    837) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1990760)
    Posted 20 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How long did Haters, Racists, Bashers beat on Obama?
    At least 8 years, and they're still at it.
    Game Over?
    Nah.
    Game On!
    tRump will be hated till the day he croaks.


    I don't hate Trump.


















    He hates me.
    838) Message boards : Politics : Greatest Best Leader of ALL TIME Yep Dat BeeeZZZ Big BIg BIG Hands Golden Haired Long Black Coat Wearin; WINNING ALWAYS Prez #45 45ers Gots His Back. You, Not So Much.......Yap (Message 1990732)
    Posted 19 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about them exempt-from-emoluments-clause-notell-motels?
    839) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1990346)
    Posted 17 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's talk about left wing media bias and two exercises in satire....


    Oh? Yawn. Whatevs!
    840) Message boards : Politics : Amazon (in New York) (Message 1990345)
    Posted 17 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I'm an Amazon. A legal Amazon. Living in New York."
    841) Message boards : Politics : How is agent Orange leaving? 25th Amendment? Handcuffs? Both? (Message 1989866)
    Posted 13 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh?
    842) Message boards : Politics : How is agent Orange leaving? 25th Amendment? Handcuffs? Both? (Message 1989330)
    Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and let the feeding frenzy begin...


    Whatevs.


    And, I'm right again, no feeding frenzy has begun.
    843) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1989329)
    Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is Trump and Fox News so afraid of A O-C?

    Trump just echo's Faux. What surprises me is until Faux reports something about A O-C, CNN doesn't. (Or for those who don't have enough brain cells to rub together, A O-C is a non-event to democrats, but a massive threat to GOPers)


    CNN = establishment ("neo"-liberal, aka not so liberal except maybe on social issues).
    844) Message boards : Politics : How is agent Orange leaving? 25th Amendment? Handcuffs? Both? (Message 1989044)
    Posted 7 Apr 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and let the feeding frenzy begin...


    Whatevs.
    845) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1986958)
    Posted 24 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, life isn't fair! If I'm right, how does that stack up against the intentions of our Constitution's framers??

    Sarge it sucks.


    https://www.270towin.com/news/2017/01/24/if-electoral-votes-were-weighted-by-state-population-alone-trump-303-clinton-235_442.html#.XJgMQyJKgdU
    846) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1986955)
    Posted 24 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "without the electoral college 4 states would have 1/3 the voting power in the USA."
    Those 4 states have nearly 1/3 of the electoral college votes.

    It only needs a 0.6% swing in Florida and a 2½% swing in Texas and all those electoral college votes will go to the Dems. If it was proportional then in 2020 Trump, I assume, would get a share of them.


    If they don't want their states swinging, maybe they should work harder to avoid recessions. 2008-2009, mass relocations? Previous purple people given a chance in another state, run into a bunch of other purples, start becoming bluer.
    847) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1986680)
    Posted 23 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would it be fairer to have each states electoral college votes proportional as in Nebraska and Maine?


    I did some reading on this a few years back. If I understood correctly, a simple (a / b) = (c / d) approach was not or is no longer used. It appeared that recursive formula using square roots is what is being used. Something, unfortunately, many people would not be able to follow.

    First, has anyone read up on this recently? Can you back what I'm saying?

    Second, yes, we know the U.S. is a representative republic. But, what does this say about "one person, one vote" in the sense of what one person's vote does in the Electoral College? I suspect my one vote carries more weight than another's one vote in another state, but less than another's one vote in another state. If I'm right, how is that fair? OK, OK, life isn't fair! If I'm right, how does that stack up against the intentions of our Constitution's framers??
    848) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1986679)
    Posted 23 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aye.
    This is why I leave for extended periods of time, among other things.
    Aye.

    Have you tried filter? Results in clean pure water.


    Of course. But people I do not want to filter respond to those I have filtered.
    Yes, I learn some things from those I do not have on filter.
    But, I could probably learn it elsewhere.
    849) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1985840)
    Posted 18 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye, you are conflating socialism, which is an economic system with autocracy which is a form of government.


    Of course he is.
    As always.
    And, since Clyde says people don't change, Eye will continue to do so.
    Even when he's been told to the contrary.
    Explained to.
    Had the explanation justified.
    Aye.
    This is why I leave for extended periods of time, among other things.
    Aye.
    850) Message boards : Politics : The A O-C (aka Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) thread (Message 1985402)
    Posted 15 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's talk about left wing media bias and two exercises in satire....
    851) Message boards : Politics : SERIOUS Man. REAL SERIOUS. dAt EX-CEO of MEGACoffeeHouses and dAt NY RichieRich BBurg, ARE F**Kin IMPRESSIVE. And I HATE DEMs Like a mO fO. BUT These GUYs are TALKin' SENSE. REAL SENSE. MAN O LIVE. WHO'd a THUNK? (Message 1985374)
    Posted 15 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dole wasn't the GOP nominee in '92, GHWB was. Dole was the GOP nominee in '96.

    Don't we all love fake news!


    I haven't checked the percents of the popular vote. They may be from '92 and, if so, misattributing to Dole instead of Bush. I do seem to recall Perot running again in '96, but not getting close to 18% ,,, ?

    FWIW
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidential_election


    I could have looked it up. I've double-checked my memory before. But I was deliberately testing my memory- only and implied this.
    852) Message boards : Politics : SERIOUS Man. REAL SERIOUS. dAt EX-CEO of MEGACoffeeHouses and dAt NY RichieRich BBurg, ARE F**Kin IMPRESSIVE. And I HATE DEMs Like a mO fO. BUT These GUYs are TALKin' SENSE. REAL SENSE. MAN O LIVE. WHO'd a THUNK? (Message 1985206)
    Posted 15 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dole wasn't the GOP nominee in '92, GHWB was. Dole was the GOP nominee in '96.

    Don't we all love fake news!


    I haven't checked the percents of the popular vote. They may be from '92 and, if so, misattributing to Dole instead of Bush. I do seem to recall Perot running again in '96, but not getting close to 18% ,,, ?
    853) Message boards : Politics : SERIOUS Man. REAL SERIOUS. dAt EX-CEO of MEGACoffeeHouses and dAt NY RichieRich BBurg, ARE F**Kin IMPRESSIVE. And I HATE DEMs Like a mO fO. BUT These GUYs are TALKin' SENSE. REAL SENSE. MAN O LIVE. WHO'd a THUNK? (Message 1985199)
    Posted 15 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1992 election
    Clinton: 44,909,889 (43.0%)
    Dole: 39,104,545 (37.4%)
    Perot: 19,743,821 (18.9%)


    I wouldn't discount Howard Shulz potential effect on the 2020 election.


    That's 1996.


    No, that's the '92 results.

    Also note that, in 1992, Perot had about 19% of the popular vote but won no electors.


    He didn't have to win any electors to kill Dole's electoral count in key states.


    Dole wasn't the GOP nominee in '92, GHWB was. Dole was the GOP nominee in '96.
    854) Message boards : Politics : SERIOUS Man. REAL SERIOUS. dAt EX-CEO of MEGACoffeeHouses and dAt NY RichieRich BBurg, ARE F**Kin IMPRESSIVE. And I HATE DEMs Like a mO fO. BUT These GUYs are TALKin' SENSE. REAL SENSE. MAN O LIVE. WHO'd a THUNK? (Message 1984995)
    Posted 13 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1992 election
    Clinton: 44,909,889 (43.0%)
    Dole: 39,104,545 (37.4%)
    Perot: 19,743,821 (18.9%)


    I wouldn't discount Howard Shulz potential effect on the 2020 election.


    That's 1996.
    Also note that, in 1992, Perot had about 19% of the popular vote but won no electors.
    855) Message boards : Politics : SERIOUS Man. REAL SERIOUS. dAt EX-CEO of MEGACoffeeHouses and dAt NY RichieRich BBurg, ARE F**Kin IMPRESSIVE. And I HATE DEMs Like a mO fO. BUT These GUYs are TALKin' SENSE. REAL SENSE. MAN O LIVE. WHO'd a THUNK? (Message 1984633)
    Posted 12 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The coffee chain CEO isn't leftist at all.
    He's center right and designed to split the Republican base so a Democrat can win.


    Shhh!
    856) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1983708)
    Posted 7 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not counting on staying long. Haven't looked a lot, but I see little has changed. Why stick around to have people deliberately twist my words?
    857) Message boards : Politics : Socialism (Message 1983519)
    Posted 5 Mar 2019 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Argue if you will whether we want to achieve socialism or, even if we do want to, whether we could. But don't make it something it isn't. The people are supposedly the state, Not the state forces the people into something. "... everyone equally owns production ... ."
    858) Message boards : Politics : Major Kong (Message 1945888)
    Posted 22 Jul 2018 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have been on a self-imposed year break from this site. No, I'm not lurking, I just happened to read some threads a few days back and saw this one. So ... where do things stand now, Mrs. MK?
    859) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1911870)
    Posted 8 Jan 2018 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not advancing the discussion at all.

    If people really do not like what others post, and do not get satisfactory replies, the moderators advice is always put them on filter.

    It is very difficult for the moderator in a "he said" type of argument.


    About 1 year, 44 still not in jail.
    See you again in a year.
    860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : R.I.P. Tom Petty (Message 1893556)
    Posted 6 Oct 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You Got Lucky cover.
    861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dr SETI (Message 1890693)
    Posted 19 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dr. C.E.T.I. profile.
    862) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1890692)
    Posted 19 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I usually right click to open as link in a new tab so that I can then comment in the tab where someone linked it. But, that's just me.
    863) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1890691)
    Posted 19 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    "Teachers wrote in, as did farmers, doctors, shopkeepers, even soldiers. An astonishing number of disillusioned children also put pen to paper.
    We're being educated in lies. I can't tell truth and lies apart any more. The whole world is dishonest. Politics is just a lying contest. What's the point of life?"

    Jailed for writing to the BBC


    Powerful.
    864) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1890061)
    Posted 15 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's the resources thing that matters. The US destroyed the Soviet economy by spending so much GDP on weaponry(made possible by a Capitalist system) that made it impossible for the Soviets to match without starving the populace(a result of the Socialist system) and starting another Revolution(which 'kinda happened' anyway).


    "Kinda". Yeah. Right. It was forced on them by well off people that were unhappy they weren't the most well off.
    Anywho, so glad you narrowed it down to the one and ONLY reason for each.
    865) Message boards : Politics : Terrorist Attacks (Message 1889948)
    Posted 15 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What most leaders of the Western world and the progressive left fail to realize is that the "Religion of Peace" has been at war with other religions since its inception. Christianity was like this until its Reformation in the late middle ages. The leaders of the "Religion of Peace" refuse a reformation and that the so-called moderates in the religion are unable and/or unwilling to reform it. President Trump and the President of the Philippines recognize this war; The question is will the other Western leaders and progressives realize this in time to do anything about it?


    Good thing ex-Muslim atheists are speaking out.
    866) Message boards : Politics : Following is an Alt-FAKE View:TAKE DOWN Washington Monument; Jefferson Memorial;All Other Monuments to Slave Owner Founding Fathers If NOT TAKEN DOWN, DEFACE IT Alt-FAKE Views are NOT to be BELIEVED Alt-FAKE Views are NOT A Call to Action in REAL WORLD (Message 1889842)
    Posted 14 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Smart Entrepeneur Could BUY ALL ALT-LEFT HATED Statues/Monuments Throughout America-plus Pay for TAKE DOWN and Shipment-and Open a Statue/Monument/Historical Facility, and MAKE A BUNDLE.

    Christopher Columbus Statues/Monuments on dA TAKE DOWN List by ALT-LEFT?

    http://www.oann.com/christopher-columbus-statue-in-n-y-may-not-receive-landmark-status

    Man O Live.

    Monumental Yap


    Build it beside Ken Ham's money losing ark.
    There's plenty of open parking spots, so I've heard.


    Plus, check into Arkanomics.


    Thanks, I will.
    867) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1889638)
    Posted 13 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That only confirms my own personal impression (for both sides of the pond) - The more things change, the more they stay the same. :-(


    Except now it's ok to act like a crazy maufauubupoopoo.
    868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1889598)
    Posted 13 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woohoo, today is the day before Thor's day, once again we will have another excuse to celebrate.
    Hail Thor and his celebrations.
    As an aside I suspect Wiggo is already getting it on.


    Depends on how late socialists can stay awake?
    869) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : First map of Pluto (Message 1889304)
    Posted 11 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Next you'll tell me Mars was named after the Roman god of war instead of the candy bar.


    lulz!
    Anywho, looks more like Snoopy, not Pluto.
    870) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1888937)
    Posted 10 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The article has to use the "If" because the investigation has not been completed. Read the entire article, it is about "possible" fraud involving same-day registering voters that used an out-of-state driver's license to register. The possible fraud involved was noticed in that many of those voters failed to obtain a new state ID from New Hampshire, so were they really residents as they claimed or were they really from the neighboring states? The President's committee investigating the possible voter fraud doesn't meet until Tuesday. An investigation takes awhile, someone has to physically go to each of the new registrant's address to verify that they are actually living in the state and inquire as to why they haven't obtained a new state ID and/or registered their vehicle with the state. If the voter can't be found living within the state, then the vote mostly likely is fraudulent and if enough votes are found fraudulent, which is quite possible, then the election outcome for that state is incorrect.


    Here's a reason for not updating one's license when legitimately moving to a new state: no car (license only used for ID and occasional rentals). In new state, kept very busy and nearest spot to make the needed changes is in another town 15 miles away. No bus service between the two. Crazy cab company charges about $80 round trip between the two towns. Yes, ones only 15 miles away. People need to get off their high horses.
    871) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1888936)
    Posted 10 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4,000 out of state student voters out of a population of >100,000 doesn't look like a big number to me.

    Dartmouth College has over 6,500 students and considering its age probably very few student parking places. I know Cornell in Ithaca, New York has virtually none.


    You're talking the neck of the woods I grew up in. You've been there?
    872) Message boards : Politics : Container Ships and Shipping Logistics (Message 1888704)
    Posted 8 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, who in the discussion actually knows logistics?
    873) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1888699)
    Posted 8 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First one makes him sound vaguely anti-business.
    874) Message boards : Politics : Container Ships and Shipping Logistics (Message 1888698)
    Posted 8 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Before you even consider that conveyor system you need to study the art/science of loading container ships.
    You will soon realize it is as stupid unrealistic idea. If for no other reason than the last ones off need to be the first ones back on.


    That problem would be easily solved by reversing the stacking order at the original loading port for a ship that would use the conveyor. If they can build a system like they have for the new containment building at Chernobyl ( Building a new containment building and sliding it into place), someone could design a container carrying conveyor. Just don't know which would be more cost effective?

    And now you have put all the heavy containers at the top of the piles, all the hazardous materials in dangerous places and all the containers containing valuables where pirates can easily get to them.
    How wise is that?

    Makes perfect sense to the wave the hands make it so crowd.


    Put ya hands in da airre like u jes don't care, Snoop Dawg & da dawwwwg pound. Bow wow wow, yippy yo, yipper yay, wave the hands in the air, make it so, okay? :)
    875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1888673)
    Posted 8 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hope yousall had a good Thor's Day!
    876) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1888208)
    Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This map shows the states the most and least dependent on the federal government
    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2015-7


    The line above the map states "the deeper the blue, the less dependent the state is on the Federal Government," which is directly opposite of what they list as the 5 most dependent and independent states below the map.

    Then there is this map which shows the military bases in the US: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1XFBnIuaJ-71hcaDJvdmBmeXNhYM&hl=en&ll=47.323248104393464%2C-114.05083400000001&z=3

    There's a lot of bases in California, which if it were to secede would withdraw a lot of income. The bases could be closed and moved east. Next, the shipping cargo that passes thru the state's ports would be routed to other ports, another major loss of income. Then without the protection of the 2nd Amendment, the liberals in the state would take away the resident's guns. Once this is done, China would invade and take it over since there would be no one to resist them. Plus the fact that California offers nothing that can't be bought or made elsewhere in the USA or the world, no great loss :)


    Libby's want yer guns.
    Blah blah blah.
    Wah wah wah.
    Funny, I know a left-leaning libertarian who earned his Ph.D. at Stanford and could probably out duel you. ;)
    877) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1888178)
    Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This map shows the states the most and least dependent on the federal government
    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2015-7


    Surprised you came up with that one. You strike me as independent, with a bit of right lean. Even I've figured out Business Insider is pretty liberal.
    878) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1888041)
    Posted 6 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It only takes one major hurricane to make a believer out of you. Same with earthquakes, or at least it SHOULD...

    Yep, the same with a good volcano, the planet is dangerous and how we prepare for it can be critical. Will we ever be totally prepared, no but we should try to do what we can.


    Someone name a place on this Earth that is 100% safe. Then, let's all move there.
    879) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887943)
    Posted 5 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please cite the exact executive order that states "A Total Ban on Muslims" , for those of us less well informed...........

    None given, IIRC that was a campaign promise. The Orange One's heart is in a good place.


    Meet Trump the new Boss. Meet the new Swamp. Same as the old Boss. Same as the old Swamp. New Swamp reminded new Boss they and he get rich dealing with, say, Saudi Arabia. The whole Saudi Arabia thing, that's one thing Alex Jones gets right. There are .. gasp, neo-Progressives that are in agreement with Jones on this,

    So, of course, Trump scaled back his promise.
    880) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1887921)
    Posted 4 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china/chinas-anger-at-west-to-overshadow-tougher-action-on-north-korea-idUSKCN1BE0MB
    BEIJING (Reuters) - North Korea’s latest nuclear test is likely to pile more pressure on China to take tough action against its neighbor, but Beijing already doubts economic sanctions will work and says it is not its sole responsibility to rein in Pyongyang.

    China has lambasted the West and its allies over recent weeks for promoting the “China responsibility theory” for North Korea, and been upset by Seoul and Washington’s own military drills that Beijing says have done nothing to cool tensions.

    “The United States has to play its own role and should not be blindly putting pressure on China to try and squeeze North Korea,” said Ruan Zongze, a former Chinese diplomat now with the China Institute of International Studies, a think-tank affiliated with the Foreign Ministry.

    While the seriousness of Sunday’s nuclear test means China will likely support tough new action, including possibly cutting off oil supplies, China will make clear others need to step up too, Ruan added.

    Over the past week, China’s foreign ministry has repeatedly hit back at calls from Western countries and Japan for China for to do more to rein in North Korea, saying that pushing for dialogue was an equally integral part of the U.N. resolutions, and that escalating sanctions alone had been evidently ineffective.


    Meanwhile, the Times of India suggests Kim jung Un's saber-rattling and testing is to put pressure on China to act as a go-between in order to open up direct negotiations with the US.
    881) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887559)
    Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    And how much humble pie, filled with crow, are Senators Ted Cruz and John Cornyn going to swallow after they opposed the spending package for Sandy.


    Answer : NONE.

    Sandy hit mostly Democrat areas.
    Harvey hit Texas (mostly Republican).

    That crap to which you refer is all about party politics, and not about the good of the country.


    The crap idea that a mostly Democrat or a mostly Republican idea is not for the good of the country. Your qualifying is also telling. Too bad for those Republicans that live in mostly Democratic areas, eh?
    882) Message boards : Politics : DREE THEIR WEIRDS? (Message 1887558)
    Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Weirds? Words?

    And how do you feel about the "English only" movement?


    Eye roo da day wenz wee was werdin dree!

    Which version of "English".
    Even in the UK there are probably "57 Varieties", and it's not very pure. It's full of Latin, German dialects (Anglo-Saxon), Scandiwegian (Vikings), French (Normans) and all sorts of words we 'borrowed' when we had an Empire.
    And that doesn't even cover the bastardisation of the language performed by Americans, Canadians and other "English speaking" nations.


    Kno, duo naht suhgjist dat laaangwijs ebulb! Dat ees blafemmy ahn dis bordt,
    883) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887423)
    Posted 2 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    House Speaker Paul Ryan is held in a “very favorable” light by only 6 percent of poll respondents, and a combined 26 percent view him positively.

    It doesn't matter, what does matter is how his constituents feel, they keep electing him.
    The same is true for all the others mentioned.

    To add to my observation the orange one is the only one listed who answers to a national audience.


    +1
    884) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fast Radio Bursts (Message 1887406)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AFAIK the first FRB was detcted at Parkes, then at Arecibo. But this new source is repeating, This explains the interest. Maybe the China FAST 500 meters antenna could join the search.
    Tullio


    +1
    885) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887403)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's always got to be "someone's more American than some other American". Why is Texan or cajun resilience ant more or less than that of any other. You're in Colorado. I guess you're less resilient, eh?
    Racist isn't it?


    Jaundiced looks like a white Coloradan, so a little hard to say it's racist. Regionalist? Nah, statist. Though why someone from one state would be statist in fabor of someone from another state is beyond me.

    Real American's are ...
    Texan's are ...
    Cajun's are ...
    White Coloradan's are ...

    Tell me again there isn't racism in there.


    We know 1 or 2 that use the bit about "real Americans". When they do, I believe they are speaking about where they live (real Americans aren't on the coast) and the kind of work they do (real American's don't not do manual labor their entire lives). So, I don't consider that part racism or not entirely racist at least. There's some -ism there, though. Whatever it is, something else fits better. Same goes for Texans.

    I can't speak for referring to Cajuns, unless I read up some more. Must a Cajun be White? I'd never heard that. Maybe. Don't know. So, if someone lives in the same area, eats Cajun cuisine, generally similar lifestyle, etc. ..., but is not White, they're not Cajun?

    I'm the one that brought up White Coloradan, but merely in counterpoint to his previous statements. If Texans are the most resilient, he must, by his definition, not be among the most resilient.
    886) Message boards : Politics : DREE THEIR WEIRDS? (Message 1887386)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Weirds? Words?

    And how do you feel about the "English only" movement?


    Eye roo da day wenz wee was werdin dree!
    887) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887385)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's always got to be "someone's more American than some other American". Why is Texan or cajun resilience ant more or less than that of any other. You're in Colorado. I guess you're less resilient, eh?
    Racist isn't it?


    Jaundiced looks like a white Coloradan, so a little hard to say it's racist. Regionalist? Nah, statist. Though why someone from one state would be statist in fabor of someone from another state is beyond me.
    888) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887384)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obama donated to the Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook victims.


    But how much WAS it, they shall cry.

    It is also not clear yet that 45's donation is from his own pocket, or his charity, into which he has personally paid very little.


    Ah, another aspect to consider.
    889) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887358)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    House Speaker Paul Ryan is held in a “very favorable” light by only 6 percent of poll respondents, and a combined 26 percent view him positively.

    It doesn't matter, what does matter is how his constituents feel, they keep electing him.
    The same is true for all the others mentioned.

    I'm going to +1 that. Someone will say this FACT has someone revealed our BELIEFS. Schmatever.
    890) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887357)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's always got to be "someone's more American than some other American". Why is Texan or cajun resilience ant more or less than that of any other. You're in Colorado. I guess you're less resilient, eh?

    Donated $1000000? Real "Art of the Deal" author says no way it is going to happen. Either way, "Trust by verify!" (Gee, where'd I get that quote from?!)

    Strictest building codes in NY? Why? Just because it leans more left than you? Didn't do any good"? No way you could test that unless you could compare to two parallel universes: one where Sandy was stronger and one where Sandy was weaker. Do you know something we don't? (How to "slide"?)

    Additionally: back up and running immediately? Guess that means today.
    891) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1887300)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's a good one that I took at the moment of totality.



    Either that was totality or you blacked out a picture. How could we tell? :) Did you have a telescope with protective covering? Any video?
    892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1887298)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major thunderstorm here last night.
    893) Message boards : Politics : Captain's log, Stardate 6969.72 (Message 1887259)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New entry for Captain's log.

    So far. I have been, able, to come back. Once more. I have observed postings, on this strange medium. Disappear. Right before my. very. eyes. I have been, having Bones catalog as much as, he can. I need to know, if this strange version of events, has anything to do with. My ancestors. A major natural event has, just occurred. I see infighting and, human rights violations. Along with hypocrisy. A known hateful group has been, protected. Thus preserving their. Ideology. Instead of working. To eradicate, such hatefulness.

    I must. see more. I must, know. more. Spock tells me we need. more. dilithium crystals to power, this device. I don't know if I can return? But rest assured, we will study the data, we have captured. for future examination.

    Captain out.

    Could you switch your Tricorder back to normal speech?

    Please...


    Those that. Demand. "Normal speech". Are ... .
    Fascinating to. Behold. Reveals. Much about. j mercer.

    I too... want to... believe.


    Make us. Believe.
    894) Message boards : Politics : Captain's log, Stardate 6969.72 (Message 1887215)
    Posted 1 Sep 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New entry for Captain's log.

    So far. I have been, able, to come back. Once more. I have observed postings, on this strange medium. Disappear. Right before my. very. eyes. I have been, having Bones catalog as much as, he can. I need to know, if this strange version of events, has anything to do with. My ancestors. A major natural event has, just occurred. I see infighting and, human rights violations. Along with hypocrisy. A known hateful group has been, protected. Thus preserving their. Ideology. Instead of working. To eradicate, such hatefulness.

    I must. see more. I must, know. more. Spock tells me we need. more. dilithium crystals to power, this device. I don't know if I can return? But rest assured, we will study the data, we have captured. for future examination.

    Captain out.

    Could you switch your Tricorder back to normal speech?

    Please...


    Those that. Demand. "Normal speech". Are ... .
    Fascinating to. Behold. Reveals. Much about. j mercer.
    895) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887175)
    Posted 31 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Kremlin confirms that Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen reached out during the 2016 US presidential campaign looking to develop a real estate deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow
    ?
    896) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1887150)
    Posted 31 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nazis, Communists, and Anarchists. The KKK and its modern day equivalent the Antifa. All are abhorrent, misguided, and one could say Evil. But under the first amendment of the Constitution of the USA, they have the right to gather and say what they want, as long as they do it peacefully. And as much as I dislike them, I have defended (12 years in the Navy) and will continue to defend their right to do so, as long as they do it peacefully. Once they start fighting, then law enforcement needs to come down hard on them.


    Fascinating. Yet, FOX News brought on an EX-neo Nazi and an Antifa, and the EX-neo Nazi was agreeing with the Antifa "opponent". (FOX News did not tell the EX-neo Nazi until just before the interview that it would not just be him in the interview.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okUMGSuYAug&t=58s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBuLNnEQYds
    897) Message boards : Politics : Captain's log, Stardate 6969.72 (Message 1887017)
    Posted 31 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks to. Spock's brillaint. Time traveling device. I have been able to. Travel back in time. To visit a more primitive age of my people. On Earth.

    I have, ventured into. A public forum. Available on a primate version of. Our advanced systems. I see, lots of bickering. These people are so, confused. They fight amongst themselves. Over petty disagreements, and. Can't seem to grasp onto their. Own identities. I'm not really sure what, to make of it. This must be. An alternate timeline that my people. The people of Earth. Did not descend from.

    I must try. To find out more, about these people. Where do? their descendants end up. How do, they survive, all the polarizations. I only have more questions? I need Spock to, give me more time, in this. device. In this timeline.

    Captain out.


    OM non-existent G, I think you figured it out!
    898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1886958)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes it's Thor's day and in about 4 hrs the grand celebration begins.
    Hail Thor and remember to celebrate properly.


    You don't get to celebrate all day? :)
    899) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1886956)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did any of our community get some good pictures?
    900) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1886917)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What to listen for in the tRump budget ...
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/08/30/At-160B-Harvey-expected-to-be-costliest-natural-disaster-in-US-history/9371504093972/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ls&utm_medium=1
    AccuWeather President Joel N. Myers called Harvey a 1,000-year flood, and warned that some parts of Houston will be "uninhabitable for weeks and possibly months due to water damage, mold, disease-ridden water."

    "This will be the worst natural disaster in American history," he said. "The economy's impact, by the time its total destruction is completed, will approach $160 billion, which is similar to the combined effect of Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy. The disaster is just beginning in certain areas."

    What is he going to cut to pay for this? Medicare? Social Security? The VA? The Pentagon? Declare bankruptcy? Where is he going to come up with $160B? Raise taxes on the 1%?! ROFTLAMOPMP!

    You will find out with the budget if he is a President or an idiot in far over his head.

    Ask yourself has New Orleans fully recovered? Houston, fourth largest city, er revenue source, won't be up and running for how long?

    Trump would slash disaster funding to the very agencies he’s praising for Harvey response


    I heard he reversed Obama executive orders that could mitigate issues in future disasters, regarding regulations for new hospitals and infrastructure. Can try to find details if you'd like. So, if true, I'd say he already slashed.
    901) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1886916)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have not confirmed it's fantasy. Hitchens' Razor has been applied.


    Not 'Occams Razor"?.................in case you forgot............"His principle states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected".,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lots of assumptions in that fantasy..........


    Occam's Razor could also be applied.
    In my field, there are statements proved that begin with short lists of assumptions. Others with longer to much longer lists of assumptions. If enough other knowledge has been built up, Occam's Razor does not invalidate this.

    My issues with your response are:

    1) You haven't listed the assumptions.

    Say what you will about me. Say, on the small chance that 10 new people (that haven;t been called in by current posters) stumble into this forum. Besides ideology, what's to convince them that you're right and Gary is wrong? You haven't given a thing. Leading to:

    2) Hitchens' Razor. (Keep in mind that Hitchens was no fan, at all, of the Clintons.)

    "That which is asserted without evidence may be as easily dismissed" or something to that affect.

    You've asserted this is as fantasy. You haven't backed it up.


    As for the hiding under a rock comment from earlier, you mistake me: I'm the guy that nearly always knows what is behind him.
    902) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1886888)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice point by point rebuttal.


    There is no rebutting a fantasy..............Keep living under the rock, it'll protect you from 'Bubba Bong Pong's' accident waiting to happen..........


    You have not confirmed it's fantasy. Hitchens' Razor has been applied.
    903) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1886885)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    tRump's swamp.


    So now you're blaming him for natural disasters??????????

    Clyde's right, you just keep going to new levels of silliness............(_?_)


    And you. Go to. Confirms. Wonderful.
    904) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1886883)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice point by point rebuttal.
    I do like your irony sarge. Expecting an adult response from a ditto bot is too much.
    Any points you wish to discuss sarge? Be nice to have an adult conversation in Politics for once.

    I do see tRump has decided MAD nuclear war is the only option.


    Still trying to work up the energy, when time allows, to watch his Afghanistan speech from last week or so. Not quite about North Korea, but related. Also, it is quite likely I will be doing my "mostly not here" disappearing act after posting about the speech.
    905) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1886862)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Never equate Gary and Chamberlain.
    Correct, Chamberlain was willing to give the Nazi's whatever they wanted, except the UK, because he knew the UK would lose until it could build up its MIC.

    Kim wants the USA knife removed from his throat. He doesn't understand if that happens he is out of a job and likely in front of his own anti-aircraft guns. He isn't Fidel, he isn't loved. His people obey him because they are dead if they don't, unlike the majority of Fidel's who love him, like some here love tRump.
    China doesn't want a unified Korea and will ensure that doesn't happen, because they aren't stupid and know a unified Korea would be west leaning. They have repeatedly warned against moving in this direction quickly - quickly being before that can force a unified Korea to lean to China.
    China is pissed at Kim because he has brought the THAAD radar to just a few scant miles from their border and it sees hundreds of miles into their country. They have lost a couple minutes of vital time from launch to detection in the MAD game.
    China is terrified of the refugee crisis if a war started would wreak on them. 1/2 the DPRK would stream across the Yalu and suddenly China would have to house and feed them. (As China becomes more capitalist it has to care how others see it because it is good business to be seen as good.)

    Do you remember, "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall"? More importantly do you remember what happened after the wall came down? Isn't that exactly why you want a wall on the southern border of the USA?
    Why do you think it would be different in Korea?

    The worst possible outcome for China and DPRK would be the surrender of the ROK. Kim has no idea how to run a Capitalist country, and he needs the money desperately to feed his own people. His people won't put up with deprivation without an enemy! Much of his troops and civilians would rush south to have the western lifestyle. If he tried to continue his repression on those left, without an enemy they will have a coup. He would have to leave all the ROK government in place to keep the cash flowing. He loses several ways all at once.

    Kim is a child having a temper tantrum. He is looking for attention. The more attention you give him the louder the tantrum.

    In all the years since 1953, what has he and his father and grandfather done? A few artillery shells, a few fishing boats, a few very limited incursions and a few kidnappings. They haven't shown any real interest in starting the war again outside of a lot of hot air in a tantrum. He is crazy like a fox. It would not surprise me if he has a secret agreement with China if the US attacks first to have China launch everything it has towards the USA. Might have been his grandfather who got that deal. Remember there were a lot of those right before WWII. He seems to be trying everything he can to get the USA to start a war and have it be against China, not him, like a fox. And you want to oblige him and murder innocent civilians while you are at it. Disgusting and deplorable.*

    If there is to be war Kim must start it and we need to keep silent and ignore the child until then. Eventually the child will tire of his own noise.


    Oh, finally does the USA have a good record of Nation State building? What would make DPRK any better? Or, what kind of ISIL would spring from the DPRK?!


    *Am I going to hear some clap trap about the USA needing to be the world's police officer because Kim does terrible things to his own people? I thought that making sure the USA stopped being the world's police officer is one of the reasons you supported tRump. Is that a flip flop, a forked tongue or a bald faced lie?

    Nice flight of fantasy.............


    Nice point by point rebuttal.
    906) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1886830)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kaput?


    If Ozz's thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81817 can't withstand arguing and getting locked, things here are just about finished.

    Whatever occurs, keep on crunching.

    [EDIT]Not a prediction of what admins/mods, will do. A prediction of dwindling participation in conversation.

    Your forecast is late for this slow motion train wreck...


    I've been around here 11-12 years. I know the history. I predict the small amount left will become far smaller still and virtually no new participants.
    907) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1886802)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kaput?


    If Ozz's thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81817 can't withstand arguing and getting locked, things here are just about finished.

    Whatever occurs, keep on crunching.

    [EDIT]Not a prediction of what admins/mods, will do. A prediction of dwindling participation in conversation.
    908) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1886776)
    Posted 30 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh woe is me, I've been shut off from my US non-faux news channel, Sky stops broadcasting rightwing US channel Fox News in UK


    No more Wallace or Shep?


    All gone. The President tells me that CNN, CNBC, Bloomberg are all fake news channels, so who do I believe now.


    Alex.
    909) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1886770)
    Posted 29 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump mixes up blonde reporters:)
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/blonde-reporters-trump/index.html
    Some believed that is a sign that Trump can not see a difference in women. Trump has previously been criticized for her way of talking about women and treating female journalists.


    Maybe so; There are also a number of other reasonable possibilities. And this issue pales to his general dangerousness.
    910) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1886769)
    Posted 29 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh woe is me, I've been shut off from my US non-faux news channel, Sky stops broadcasting rightwing US channel Fox News in UK


    No more Wallace or Shep?
    911) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1886736)
    Posted 29 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kaput?
    912) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1886171)
    Posted 26 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

    Note to all.

    Sarge, who also doesn't wish "ill" to a murdering and enslaving Dictator. Believes one, who tattoos Swastikas. Reduced the Evil of the use of a Present Day Symbol of Evil.

    The moral and ethical self destruction of those attacking this poster. Is wonderful to behold. And a necessary confirmation of what I have been posting.

    ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE:

    Let's Pray for, and Hope for the best. For the people of Texas.


    Note to all:

    CLYDE has, unsurprisingly, dug up what I expected him to but misrepresented it. Dig up the exact quote if you must, we all know the spirit of that was "Castro's gone, good luck Cuba".

    You are not being attacked by me. Over and over and over I and we in general have attempted to understand exactly what you are trying to say.

    But you have now attacked me.

    Worse, by the way you've worded this, you make it seem that your attack on me is less serious. So, the murderous Hitler is lower on the totem pole than an inhuman hurricane? This has gone beyond ridiculous. There is no point to it, anymore.


    We have condemned the actions of neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
    45 and some here have equivocated on it.
    And they think we’re the ones squirming when we discuss the symbol? We condemn the actions!!!
    Squirming? Gimme a break.

    P.S.-an atheist would not be praying for Texas. An atheist will keep texas in the MIND and, if and when possible, depending on the damage, send money or make a trip to help rebuild. (Inclusive "or".)

    An atheist would not be wishing for Hell for a murderous dictator, because an atheist doesn't BELIEVE in Hell. (Hence, the lack of wishing for further ill. It's done, over. The dictator is dead and gone.)

    Bye!
    913) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1886138)
    Posted 26 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

    Note to all.

    Sarge, who also doesn't wish "ill" to a murdering and enslaving Dictator. Believes one, who tattoos Swastikas. Reduced the Evil of the use of a Present Day Symbol of Evil.

    The moral and ethical self destruction of those attacking this poster. Is wonderful to behold. And a necessary confirmation of what I have been posting.

    ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE:

    Let's Pray for, and Hope for the best. For the people of Texas.


    Note to all:

    CLYDE has, unsurprisingly, dug up what I expected him to but misrepresented it. Dig up the exact quote if you must, we all know the spirit of that was "Castro's gone, good luck Cuba".

    You are not being attacked by me. Over and over and over I and we in general have attempted to understand exactly what you are trying to say.

    But you have now attacked me.

    Worse, by the way you've worded this, you make it seem that your attack on me is less serious. So, the murderous Hitler is lower on the totem pole than an inhuman hurricane? This has gone beyond ridiculous. There is no point to it, anymore.
    914) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1886107)
    Posted 25 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From Christianity Today. Related or not? When did the cross supplant the ichthus (fish) as a symbol of the Christian faith?.
    915) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1886105)
    Posted 25 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Modern Day use of the Swastika. Is for evil.

    What it was used for, prior to the Nazis. Cannot be used to dismiss, what is understood by those with a modicum of ethics and morality. To be a present day Symbol of Hate.

    It is most educational regarding the true beliefs of some. That it is those on the Left of the Ideological Spectrum. Who are the only ones that are in denial of that fact.

    Siran, who now calls anyone speaking against using this Modern Day Symbol of Hate as an Avatar in these Threads. "Dude, you are getting pathetic with this crap."

    No Siran, Sarge and Sirius B... I will continue to enjoy the self inflicted destruction of your beliefs.

    Just a Note: The attribution that Siran uses to show that the Swastika was used in the West after The Nazi's for non evil reasons.

    IS FALSE. The examples are all prior to WW2. Excepting the fellow who tattooed his body with Swastika's.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

    Repeating my question:

    Siran...

    Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

    Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.


    Just a Note: The attribution that Siran uses to show that the Swastika was used in the West after The Nazi's for non evil reasons.

    IS FALSE. The examples are all prior to WW2. Excepting the fellow who tattooed his body with Swastika's.


    Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???
    916) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1886070)
    Posted 25 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the swastika was shown in a white circle on a red background as in the Nazi flag, I would have a problem with it. If, however, the swastika was shown in the myriad other non-"evil" ways, no, I would not have a problem with it.

    Just because the Nazis used it for their Aryan ways does in no way make the swastika an "evil" symbol.

    Learn your history dude... :|

    So Siran...

    Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

    Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.

    If you cannot...


    I think he's got you from his BBC link, particularly in the pic of the Hindu boy. It's color, so more likely recent, way past WWII. Furthermore, given the centuries worth of Hindu use, he's probably using it as Hindu's intended, not how Hitler intended it.

    917) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885640)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Trump made and interesting speech.

    However no one here seems really interested in discussing the pros and cons.

    They just continue to define what they think other posters mean by good an evil.

    [Mod hat off] I believe that Fidel Castro was possible the best thing that happened to Cuba. Ridding the island of corrupt capitalists and the Mafia.

    I think he believed he did mostly good for Cuba. Later the US government allied itself with the Mafia (is the Mafia not an evil murdering organisation?) in an attempt to overthrow Castro.

    So does my belief that Castro did more good than harm make me a supporter of evil. Does the fact that this is an internet forum mean that every word I type is truly what I believe? [/mod hat off]

    Perhaps we could get back to discussing the current POTUS.


    I am actually interested in pros and cons. Digging deep into whether they are truly pros or cons. I specifically asked, is it worth watching a replay of the entire speech on Afghanistan from two days ago. Or is a synopsis enough?
    918) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885593)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Greetings, Lazarus.
    919) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885591)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alleged personal attacks equivocation.
    920) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885585)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm, still don't know what youseall are referring to, but if some ideological lunatic is attacking somewhere in some thread, isn't that a moderatable offense?
    921) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885581)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What an echo chamber of Liberal Lunacy this thread has become in the last 24 hours.

    @Sarge, I do believe he is talking about you since you seem to have a lot of posts in the last 24 hours ...


    Who?
    922) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1885579)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all the "cosmetic surgery" done on the site, one would think it a simple matter to put a character limit in place.


    Would that violate the First Amendment?
    If it does then a lot of American websites have already violated by having character limits.


    Darn it! YAP is going to be so upset about his Tweeter account. He'll have to break up his twits.
    923) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1885574)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all the "cosmetic surgery" done on the site, one would think it a simple matter to put a character limit in place.


    Would that violate the First Amendment?
    924) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1885514)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Maniac with Nuclear Weapons.
    Getting more and more convinced he is crazy like a fox.


    Largely irrational but not 100%?
    925) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1885513)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have another 80+ characters to go in your tweet. IIRC it can be 254 long as it's a unix string and those a null terminated.


    Funny story: as I created this, one such questionable thread title greatly expanded and then contracted shortly after this thread went live.
    926) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885512)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keep in mind, there are those that believe all sins are punishable by death and eternity in Hell ... unless, of course, you make believe. Their equivocations, along with their sense of justice are ... interesting.

    It's a matter of looking in a mirror and deciding if you like what you see.


    Obviously, some do. Me, personally, I'm not them.
    927) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885506)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That they are more dangerous and destructive to the USA, than he is.

    Than a thief? I guess integrity doesn't matter.


    Should it?

    That's a good question, I guess it depends upon your self image.


    Keep in mind, there are those that believe all sins are punishable by death and eternity in Hell ... unless, of course, you make believe. Their equivocations, along with their sense of justice are ... interesting.
    928) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1885486)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Was it good for you?"
    929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1885485)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm leaving Sunday about noon, I figure I may need that much time due to potential gridlock. I missed Woodstock I don't intend to miss this. Totality at 10:17 in Eugene.
    Hail Thor and the eclipse.


    89% here. Had to catch glimpses of start and maximum between classes.
    Hope it was worth it for you, betreger.
    930) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885484)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A continuation of this thread...

    The is the Donald Trump (45th President of the United States of America) thread. Everything about Donald Trump is on-topic: ie himself, his Presidency, his cabinet, his family, his business interests, and the state of the U.S. Federal Government during his term.

    This is not the Personalities Of and Gripes About People Who Post in the Donald Trump Thread Thread. You'll have to start you own one of those, and I will then have to remove it of course! Please keep to the topic and thank you.


    666th post!
    931) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885483)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nick you have to understand he is consistently inconsistent.

    He's like a landed fish try to flip flop his way back into the swamp water.

    I wonder how much further into debt he'll push the country (and he's been doing very well in that department already).

    Cheers.

    Funny you should use that phrase, so did Steve Bannon's Breitbart (WaPo article)


    Bannon is a mixed "blessing".
    932) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885482)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It looks like the orange figure is in for a warm reception at Arizona in a few hours, but it doesn't look like it'll be the type of reception he wants.


    And possibly for an unexpectedly good reason...
    (I rather hope he doesn't go off-cue and do it anyway.)


    It's anything can happen Tuesday. Odds are 50% he does it anyway.
    933) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885481)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That they are more dangerous and destructive to the USA, than he is.

    Than a thief? I guess integrity doesn't matter.


    Should it?
    934) Message boards : Politics : The Longest Thread Title by the User with the Longest User Name Wins Yes This is Political and Within the Rules So Let's Discuss! (Is this community dying?) (Message 1885480)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's discuss the political issue of stretching the screen and making the politics forum look like "The Last Person to Post Here Wins" as in the SETI Cafe.
    935) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885479)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nick you have to understand he is consistently inconsistent.


    Just like the father of a dysfunctional family.


    +1
    936) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885475)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nick you have to understand he is consistently inconsistent.


    Just like the father of a dysfunctional family.
    937) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885474)
    Posted 23 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Trump will Address the Nation soon.

    Let's see if he has improved.


    NK, Venezuela and now back to Afghanistan, where DeVos' brother, Prince (of Blackwater fame) may get free rein?
    Should I watch a replay of it on youtube?


    No response = so, no?
    938) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885405)
    Posted 22 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Trump will Address the Nation soon.

    Let's see if he has improved.


    NK, Venezuela and now back to Afghanistan, where DeVos' brother, Prince (of Blackwater fame) may get free rein?
    Should I watch a replay of it on youtube?
    939) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1885378)
    Posted 21 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny no one has mentioned the back of the $2 bill!

    Yes. He had about 600 slaves!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves

    And believed to have children by his Slave Sally Hemings.

    Yes, it was a wonderful time for capitalist slave owners when they could literally rape profits into existence.


    We could get around this by, I don't know, using that credit card idea they came up with in the 70s that never went anywhere.
    940) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1885335)
    Posted 21 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got to see it starting at about 90% (maximum here), via special glasses and a protected telescope.
    941) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1885181)
    Posted 20 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also understanding the statistics, I also do not bet. (Once in 1998 or so, on some sort of lottery ticket. That's it.)
    But what might those betting at https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/international/ know that we do not?
    942) Message boards : Politics : Would you want to live forever? (Message 1885180)
    Posted 20 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday, Bob.
    Still, am trying to discern why this thread is "political"? I could see how it could turn so, but the opening wasn't and I see nothing where it has turned so.
    943) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1884991)
    Posted 20 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How have we even got to the point where Nazi's aren't automatically the bad guys? I'm mystified.

    Not specifically mentioning Mass Murdering Marxism, Nazism, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, KKK, et al. When attacking all evil beliefs. Doesn't mean that one supports Mass Murdering Marxism, Nazis, KKK, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao, KKK.

    Having lost the moral and ethical arguments. These attacks by the Radical Left, that is permeating our Country.

    Will hopefully result is their Political Suicide.

    Show us the evidence,


    Interestingly, Noam Chomsky is now addressing this.
    944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1884972)
    Posted 19 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here on the upper left coast, I wish a happy Thor's day to all as I contemplate a 200 mile drive south to enjoy Monday's totality.
    Hail Thor and the upcoming eclipse


    Have you decided?
    945) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1884935)
    Posted 19 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rather than repeating variations of the same posting over and over in often questionable contexts, what improvements would you propose to the current political system and both parties in order that you would find one or even both palatable and worth voting for again?


    +1
    946) Message boards : Politics : Following is an Alt-FAKE View:TAKE DOWN Washington Monument; Jefferson Memorial;All Other Monuments to Slave Owner Founding Fathers If NOT TAKEN DOWN, DEFACE IT Alt-FAKE Views are NOT to be BELIEVED Alt-FAKE Views are NOT A Call to Action in REAL WORLD (Message 1884821)
    Posted 18 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Smart Entrepeneur Could BUY ALL ALT-LEFT HATED Statues/Monuments Throughout America-plus Pay for TAKE DOWN and Shipment-and Open a Statue/Monument/Historical Facility, and MAKE A BUNDLE.

    Christopher Columbus Statues/Monuments on dA TAKE DOWN List by ALT-LEFT?

    http://www.oann.com/christopher-columbus-statue-in-n-y-may-not-receive-landmark-status

    Man O Live.

    Monumental Yap


    Build it beside Ken Ham's money losing ark.
    There's plenty of open parking spots, so I've heard.


    Plus, check into Arkanomics.
    947) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1884820)
    Posted 18 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW: Your silence, or excusal, or acceptance (pick one) of the following post by Gary. Also confirms everything have been saying.

    Gary... "I don't think he [Trump] should be assassinated. He should be executed, with formalities."

    What would have been your immediate response, if I had posted in the past. 'I don't think Obama should be assassinated. He should be executed, with formalities'.

    As I have posted: Welcome back!


    I will not hope for this.
    But ...
    If he is somehow found guilty of treason, following due process and the remainder of his life in prison or execution are the options, then a judge (or however this is handled by government/politicians/military) the decision is for execution ...
    Are you going to argue against the due process of law?
    948) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1884789)
    Posted 18 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye, when was a mass shooting recently in this country attributed to the left?
    Seeing as he couldn't (or wouldn't) answer the question to any degree of satisfaction for most of us then let's look at the stats.

    Over the past 10 years (2007-2016), domestic extremists of all kinds have killed at least 372 people in the United States. Of those deaths, approximately 74% were at the hands of right-wing extremists, about 24% of the victims were killed by domestic Islamic extremists, and the remainder were killed by left-wing extremists (that's 2% for the mathematically challenged)..


    I heard pretty much the same figures recently. Probably came from the same source.
    Note that 2% <> 0%.
    As I said, a few days ago, call out the specific actions of the particular "side" as it happens. Don't use blanket condemnations.
    The only violent act from the Left I sure of from last weekend was Kessler being knocked down Sunday.
    949) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1884551)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one to ponder:

    Many years ago I worked for an auto fasteners sales company in San Diego, CA. I was not a sales person, my work was strictly on the computer. Anyway, our North San Diego County salesperson was talking with me, one day, on one of his trips to the warehouse. He told me that at one of his customer's the shop manager (a Mexican national) asked him if he was learning Spanish. The salesperson told him "no". The manager told him he had better start learning because they (the Mexicans) are taking over this country.

    I have never had any reason to disbelieve anything that salesperson ever told me; I tend to believe him. And, the salesperson believed the shop manager because he was not one for making jokes or anything of a humorous nature.


    I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Did you agree that the Mexicans are "taking over"? Do you feel that Mexicans entering the workforce threatens your Caucasian culture? (I'm assuming you're Caucasian.)

    About that video: it sucked big time. And, no matter what is done, bigotry will never go away. Everyone is bigoted in one form or another, myself included.


    I would also like some more elaboration on this. Do you feel that since we are all prejudiced/biased in our own ways, we can't try to better ourselves and overcome our natures? That sounds rather defeatist to me.

    Hi Ozz,

    I'm not sure what to believe. I just introduced an experience I had. Whether or not that manager believed what he said and what he said is true, I don't know.

    One other thing that happened personally and still bugs the heck out of me was that at that same company I worked at, INS came in one day and made my boss and me prove we were U.S.A. citizens. My boss is Italian and I'm Swedish and Italian. Neither of us looked Mexican in the least, and yet we were harassed by INS. This happened over 20 years ago. At the time I had long, very blonde hair ( it's darkened with age :( ). My skin is very fair, not brown at all. To say the least, we both were pissed about the INS harassment.

    @Sarge: Once again, mind your own business.

    Have a great day, Ozz. :)

    Siran


    @Siran, who had to post twice before I posted once, YOU mind YOUR own business, c'mon at me, big boy.
    950) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1884550)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]-[ snip ]-
    -[ snip ]-

    -[ snip ]-


    Siran posts perhaps once a year. Don't expect a response. (If he does, not the un-Vulcan approach. :-])

    Dude,

    Just mind your own business and if you post, post FACTS not fiction that suits your own mindset.

    Siran


    YOU mind YOUR own business, I DID post FACTS!!!
    Come at me, bro.
    951) Message boards : Politics : A message for all to hear and heed (Message 1884383)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one to ponder:

    Many years ago I worked for an auto fasteners sales company in San Diego, CA. I was not a sales person, my work was strictly on the computer. Anyway, our North San Diego County salesperson was talking with me, one day, on one of his trips to the warehouse. He told me that at one of his customer's the shop manager (a Mexican national) asked him if he was learning Spanish. The salesperson told him "no". The manager told him he had better start learning because they (the Mexicans) are taking over this country.

    I have never had any reason to disbelieve anything that salesperson ever told me; I tend to believe him. And, the salesperson believed the shop manager because he was not one for making jokes or anything of a humorous nature.


    I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Did you agree that the Mexicans are "taking over"? Do you feel that Mexicans entering the workforce threatens your Caucasian culture? (I'm assuming you're Caucasian.)

    About that video: it sucked big time. And, no matter what is done, bigotry will never go away. Everyone is bigoted in one form or another, myself included.


    I would also like some more elaboration on this. Do you feel that since we are all prejudiced/biased in our own ways, we can't try to better ourselves and overcome our natures? That sounds rather defeatist to me.


    Siran posts perhaps once a year. Don't expect a response. (If he does, not the un-Vulcan approach. :-])
    952) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1884380)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the world is well aware of America's understanding of the lesser of two evils, so a question for you:

    Which was the lesser evil - Shah of Iran or Ayatollah Khomeini?


    Morally equivalent?
    953) Message boards : Politics : Kid Rock is NOT for da Peeplez, hee is wyrd (Message 1884379)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well he can't delete his own posts now so he had to have something to delete. ;-)

    Cheers.


    LULZ!
    === is just so classic. I wish a current mod would go back and revert those hundreds of posts.
    954) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1884378)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd never heard this term before it spewed out of Trumps mouth, so I'm guessing it's some sort of Newspeak coined by Fox News.

    Yep


    Nope.

    Alt-Left was used in an editorial in World Net Daily on Aug. 28, 2016 (http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/lets-take-a-look-at-the-alt-left/).

    Fox News didn't use the term until some time in Dec. 2016.

    The meanings of 'alt-left' (and 'alt-right')? Something of a newspeak term... People like labels on things, and these two terms are more... sanitary... than the older, more descriptive labels. As far as I can gather, the term 'alt-left' means the part of the old mainstream Democrat party that abandoned the Democrat traditional voter-base (unionized working class) in the early to mid 1960s in favor of identity politics and racial minorities as a way to try to ensure their ongoing electoral dominance. It is totally bizarre. But the Democrats can't really and truly be called 'Left' any more (since they abandoned the basis of the 'Left'... organized labor). Come to think of it, Trump is more 'Left' than most of the Democrats, since the disaffected, ignored members of the working class voted him into office. ROFL.

    I've said it before and I will say it again. U.S. Politics... Political theater at its finest.


    LOL.
    Another measuring contest?
    NOPE!
    I found a video from Sep 6, 2016 where the term alt=left was used.
    955) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1884377)
    Posted 17 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no problem with a removal. Especially if they are located in a State Capital Building, or other place of honor. A Replacement to an area where people can visit and understand our history. Both the good and bad. Is the Non Orwellian solution.


    History should not be erased by any means, but these statues belong in a museum, right beside the exhibits on slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, and every other ugly and thankfully bygone relic institution that they fought to preserve.

    They do not deserve a place of honor on public land within the United States, because they fought against the United States as citizens of another country. To give them such officially legitimizes with the force of government and sanctions their actions, and those of every one of their followers today.


    Museum.
    956) Message boards : Politics : Kid Rock is NOT for da Peeplez, hee is wyrd (Message 1884061)
    Posted 16 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No response, Guy?
    His RAC is below 0.5 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=7787259

    and no computers active in last 30 days.


    My posts always resurrect him. He is my Lazarus. He wants to respond to me.
    957) Message boards : Politics : Kid Rock is NOT for da Peeplez, hee is wyrd (Message 1883826)
    Posted 14 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lA7KeO1dgp.


    No response, Guy?
    958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NFL 2017 season................ (Message 1883738)
    Posted 14 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NFL 2017 ignore all that's wrong.
    959) Message boards : Politics : Kid Rock is NOT for da Peeplez, hee is wyrd (Message 1883737)
    Posted 14 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lA7KeO1dgp.
    960) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883733)
    Posted 14 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do.

    Knowledge is power.

    It will not immediately stop Kim. It will plant the seeds for stopping Kim from with in.

    The weak will always bow but the strong will get stronger and fight for freedom.

    Your reality is not mine.

    Anyone listening will be, at best, consigned to a Work Camp. Or worse, tortured before killed.

    Understand that no one, in these enslaved societies, trusts their work associates, neighbors or friends.

    That is the reality.

    Back to the Present Problem: Maniac Kim.


    Anyone listening must first be caught listening.
    It took some time for Winston to be caught.
    961) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883713)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kessler surged upon, then pushed and knocked down.
    Are words something you can use the self-defense for?
    962) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883709)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    However, my condemnations are predicated upon what at the moment is happening and who is responsible. When another tribe is responsible for something at another time, then at that time that tribe shall also have my condemnation.

    Sarge you address the situation at hand with specifics, not so with Clyde who chooses worthless generalities.


    Remember, I stand for good things and against the bad things. Sarge 2018.
    BTW. without scrolling back, I seem to recall even Eye addressed ONE group and called out a liar.
    963) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883700)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do.

    Knowledge is power.

    It will not immediately stop Kim. It will plant the seeds for stopping Kim from with in.

    The weak will always bow but the strong will get stronger and fight for freedom.

    Your reality is not mine.


    I find no problem with this, j mercer, nor Gary's expression of the same. I do not see it is as guaranteed to work, but it is a strategy and not a new idea.
    And, Clyde, it seemed you were responding to my post, not Gary's response to it. My post about Panama, etc. ... was dark humor.
    964) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883699)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Condemning ALL the Bigots. Black, White, Female, Male, Radical Left or Right. Is correct.

    Those not condemning ALL. Are the real problem.


    Here's how blanket condemnations sound: "I stand for good things! We're stronger together!" About as weak as Hillary's losing campaign slogans.

    Then one believes in nothing if a Deranged Liar as Hillary, or an Idiot (or Worse) Trump says it

    Sorry Sarge....

    My personal beliefs, are not predicated upon who says what.


    However, my condemnations are predicated upon what at the moment is happening and who is responsible. When another tribe is responsible for something at another time, then at that time that tribe shall also have my condemnation.
    965) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883662)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Condemning ALL the Bigots. Black, White, Female, Male, Radical Left or Right. Is correct.

    Those not condemning ALL. Are the real problem.


    Here's how blanket condemnations sound: "I stand for good things! We're stronger together!" About as weak as Hillary's losing campaign slogans.
    966) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883649)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you for allowing me to repeat the truth. It needs to be repeated over, and over, and over again.
    In that case it would be best to check before posting. Also, putting a "full stop" in mid sentence would at least prevent many from laughing at you & maybe start to believe you really were a teacher.

    Sirius B...

    You are correct about my Computer/Typewriter skills.

    As i (ooops) posted in the past: That is why, for extra credit of course, I always had one of my students 'proof read'.

    My verbal skills where always admired. Not...


    Extra credit should only be for showing understanding of the material covered. I gave up using it for anything else 21 years ago.
    967) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883646)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The locals in South Korea and in Guam seems not so worried about the situation.

    Thousands of people have enjoyed a pop concert close to the demilitarised zone between North and South Korea this weekend.
    Having speakers blairing it in to North Korea:)
    K-POP http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40914330/korean-border-concert-draws-thousands
    Seoul http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40892777/north-korea-s-nuclear-programme-how-worried-is-seoul

    Guam http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40890024/guam-resident-we-re-used-to-hearing-about-being-bombed

    However in Japan.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/japan-deploys-missile-defence-over-north-korea-threat-to-guam-reports
    Japan has in the past vowed to shoot down North Korean missiles or rockets that threaten to hit its territory.
    The defence ministry deployed the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) system in Shimane, Hiroshima and Kochi in western Japan, which North Korea had warned could be along its missiles’ flight path, public broadcaster NHK and Kyodo News said.

    I wish to personally congratulate janne.

    Who, unlike some others. Understands that Kim's threat to murder millions of innocent people. Is no joking matter.


    My personal congratulations to all others that understand dark humor, a la M*A*S*H*.
    968) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883533)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have an idea! One that worked before! We could, like, blair rock 'n' roll music at Un's compound!!! :)
    blare?
    ROK has a bunch of speakers already. I'm not sure but Barry Malinow might be more effective.
    However likely much more effective, would be reading the super market specials touting 24/7/365 electricity, gasoline, cars and SUV's, and all the other things we take for granted in the west. Tell them it is free for the asking as soon as kim surrenders.

    Too bad we can't hack his state TV and run that.


    Who says we can't :)

    Blair Witch Project!

    969) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883521)
    Posted 13 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have an idea! One that worked before! We could, like, blair rock 'n' roll music at Un's compound!!! :)
    970) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883329)
    Posted 12 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary you couldn't make that up but The Independent Journal Review did.

    Or the "experts" that get paid to engage in flights of fancy.

    The only arrest, so far, is of a DNC Staffer.

    It is possible that this Russia/Trump Collusion Hysteria by The Left and the Democrat Party. Is an attempt to deflect from their own criminal conduct.

    Why not? It has more corroboration, in this Hysterical Time. Than the Trump/Putin theory.

    Where do you get this "Russia/Trump Collusion Hysteria by The Left and the Democrat Party" from?

    If the latest poll, from Public Policy Polling survey, commissioned by VoteVets, is anything to go by, the majority of Americans are against everything Trump.
    http://action.votevets.org/page/-/NORTH%20KOREA%20POLL%20MEMO.pdf

    The Trust regarding Trump in the the 30 - 40 percentile.

    The Trust regarding the Anti Trump Media is approximately 10 % lower.

    The Trust of the Washington Politicians attacking Trump, is even lower.

    Why is it so hard for the Never Trumps to understand, or refuse to acknowledge, that they are held in greater contempt.


    Strange, I heard of polls well before Trump being elected that Congress had approval ratings of 9% to 21% in January of a new session and supposedly this goes back several years.
    971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NFL 2017 season................ (Message 1883286)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    National Football League


    Oh. That silly thing?
    972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NFL 2017 season................ (Message 1883226)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What does NFL even MEAN???
    973) Message boards : Politics : DREE THEIR WEIRDS? (Message 1883225)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Weirds? Words?

    And how do you feel about the "English only" movement?


    Why should we post in a thread when we don't even know what the title means?
    974) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883223)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump’s Ridiculous Solution For Opioid Crisis: Tell Kids ‘Drugs Are Bad, Mmkay?'
    975) Message boards : Politics : DREE THEIR WEIRDS? (Message 1883189)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Weirds? Words?

    And how do you feel about the "English only" movement?
    976) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883188)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .......It's true previous presidents did little, but we are all still alive.

    Steve


    And have those 'previous presidents' to thank for the nuclear blackmailer we now have on our hands. Apparently the buck didn't stop with anyone from Eisenhower through Obama...........thanks, guys, for your forethought.

    .......at least we're still alive..........for now.

    Glad to see you mention Republican Eisenhower, the root of the problem. Drew a line in the sand and used military. Always f's things up beyond recognition. Always comes back to bite you in the Rump.

    The only answer is for the North to have its pyhric victory. The line in the sand has to vanish.


    Republican Reagan, that some think "Republican" Trump hearkens back to, is also on his list.
    977) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1883174)
    Posted 11 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This whole scenario scares the daylights out of me. It's true previous presidents did little, but we are all still alive.

    Steve


    A little street epistemology: so, you think still being alive is a good thing? :)
    978) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883073)
    Posted 10 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The US Congress?
    No. It was introduced in the United States Senate in 2017.

    The Senate is part of Congress (along with the House of Representatives.)

    Kind of like a House of Lords and a House of Other Lords.

    He, He:) Every US citizens knows that and even Trump. Right?
    We did have two Chambers (like House of Lords) until the 60's.
    But why complicate it so much?
    Here we vote for political parties that form the Parliament (House of Representatives).
    The party in majority forms the Government.
    Every proposal and changing legislation given from either Representatives or the Government have later be approved by voting in the House of Representatives. (Riksdag)
    That's it.


    In order to have, in the Senate, to have equal representation for the states roughly and roughly proportional representation (by population size) in the House.
    979) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883064)
    Posted 10 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So a nonspeaking English person can get 40 points more than an English speaking person?
    Must be a joke.
    It was introduced in Congress, nothing more need be said.

    Of course it is a joke.
    Most Nobel winners are of retirement age. Very few get one before the age of 40.
    The average Scientist or Engineer with a Masters, gets it in their mid 30's and has a salary under $100,000. Might just get enough points to pass if they apply immediately.


    If the quiz was anything like the Act introduced, then, no, the Master's degree isn't worth all that much to them.
    980) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1883052)
    Posted 10 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The US Congress?
    No. It was introduced in the United States Senate in 2017.


    The Senate is part of Congress (along with the House of Representatives.)


    Kind of like a House of Lords and a House of Other Lords.
    981) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1882928)
    Posted 10 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Click you heels three times ans pray, tRump isn't JFK and because of that Kim will misread him and we don't have enough iodine pills.


    I shall survive.
    As a zombie. And I'll go hang out with JE. We shall hunt bears. Lots of protein.
    982) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1882713)
    Posted 8 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Simplistically, with the GOP going more to the right, thanks to the "tea party" and the Democrats going more to the left with Bernie Sanders.
    Is there room for a charismatic leader from the center that could form a new party, which is maybe what Trump should have done but couldn't because he has too many negative traits.

    Edit] Who is Nicole Mincey?


    Sanders is trying to move in one direction. The establishment Dems (what Clyde confusingly seems to refer to as the Alt-Left) has been and is moving further right.
    983) Message boards : Politics : Marijuana (Message 1882478)
    Posted 6 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Appears the Trump Administration's Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety, got it right.

    But will Sessions and Trump themselves get it right??

    But betting it right means less votes from prison guard unions ...

    Fair point. How about the private prison industry?
    984) Message boards : Politics : Marijuana (Message 1882476)
    Posted 6 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Appears the Trump Administration's Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety, got it right.


    But will Sessions and Trump themselves get it right??
    985) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1882264)
    Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Foxconn liked everything about Illinois, but Wisconsin officials convinced Gou they made the best business partners. How could that be? Wisconsin will provide $3 billion in tax benefits over 15 years,

    Mark the state is paying them to come.

    Damn right they are. And a great investment of my tax dollars I might add.

    Just like Solyndra or GM or TARP. Got it.

    Oh, I get it, Rump. No more investing in the future, because there is a chance of failure.
    Forget the almost certain return on investment and the creation of new jobs.
    Sound like a true rumper talking, you do.


    WHAT?!? You're against worrying about failure?
    "How's that hopey changey thingy workin out fer ya? How's that MAGGOT ... errr, MAGA thingy workin out fer ya?"
    986) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1882259)
    Posted 5 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW: If you don't like a President and believe she or he is dangerous. As many believed regarding Obama, Reagan, Lincoln, and many now believe with Trump. Which unlike Bill Clinton and Nixon. There is no evidence of him personally committing a crime.

    Clyde The grand jury in DC will find fire behind the smoke. The oligarchs feel the laws don't apply to them. That may be true in Trumpworld.
    An election for the entire House of Representatives and 1/3 of the Senate. Will be held next year.

    Clyde The public has a lower opinion of the Republican controlled congress than it does of bone spurs.

    betreger... Again...

    The truth of what is happening is this:

    The Washington Swamp, the Democrat Party, the Republican Party, The Media, and the Never Trumps, are held in more contempt than Trump is.

    The Republican Party, who keeps on winning, and winning, and winning elections. Is presently seen as a necessary alternative to the Democrat Party, the Alt Left, the lying Left Wing News Media, et al. Those outside of the Washington Swamp do understand this, as noted below.

    "West Virginia governor, a Democrat, to switch to Republican"

    https://apnews.com/60ba4af9956a4bbabe4330ea76870ef9/West-Virginia-governor,-a-Democrat,-to-switch-to-Republican

    Those only attacking Trump, and not acknowledging they are held in greater contempt then Trump is.

    Are in for a big surprise in 2018.

    CLYDE


    WV Gov. was never really a Democrat

    Before he ran as a Democrat, Justice had been a registered Republican and also a political independent. Still, many of West Virginia’s Democratic leaders embraced his run. Sen. Joe Manchin, West Virginia’s sole Democrat in Congress, endorsed Justice more than a month before the Democratic primary.


    Meanwhile, as Clyde keeps talking about how the Republicans are going to keep winning, some of us are waking up to just how big the con is, how close the parties are and how far the parties are from voters of the same "tribe".
    987) Message boards : Politics : Marijuana (Message 1882112)
    Posted 4 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now if this was government controlled, the order would go out - Increase production :-)

    In the USA, where States have 'legalized' cannabis. And the Federal Government, as of now, has not been able to stop the practice:

    The operations are becoming very large and profitable. With expensive labs, testing, decontamination suits, etc. Not Mom-and-Pops backyard growers.


    Interesting, All I see is small operations.
    988) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881941)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Orange is dA New HATE

    Well yeah, and rightly so. Obama's skin tone is natural. Trump's orange is not.


    Not quite sure why you went off on your tangent about being OK to hate people. All I said was that picking on Trump for his unnatural skin color is not the same as picking on Obama's natural skin color. Anything about hate was incorrectly inferenced by you and had nothing to do with my post or my feelings and opinions.

    OzzFan... Agree.

    Negatively mentioning Trump's unnatural skin color is neither hate nor bigotry.

    As a person of advanced years, who has lost much hair and my favorite grandniece affectionately calls me "baldy". Wondering what Trump would look like without his, ridiculous looking to me, dyed blond, ton of hair spray pompadour?


    So now you ARE in on one of the side conversations?
    989) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881899)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you imagine the out cry if that was Obama and spoofing his skin color/colour.

    You would be drummed off the boards as a racist/bigot.

    Hah! ha!!


    Can you imagine the outcry if it was Intellejunt Dezine that made such a strawman argument as the one above?
    Why, he'd be debated on the boards ad nauseam until he went away with his coccyx between his legs!
    Ha! Ha!

    Any body can be what they want, male/female/trans/black/red/brown/tan, but Trump can not be orange. Maybe Trump is a George Hamilton fanboy.

    Orange Straw Man...


    Sorry. Wrong. I can't be Black. I may tan decently, but no amount of tanning is going to make me Black.
    No surgical procedure exists.
    Any further strawmen?
    990) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881898)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you imagine the out cry if that was Obama and spoofing his skin color/colour.

    You would be drummed off the boards as a racist/bigot.

    Hah! ha!!

    Believing an individual is inferior, subhuman, racist, et al, because of their skin color. Is a Bigot.


    Believing someone has a bad tan job is not bigotry.

    Sarge...

    Negative beliefs about an individual because of their Race (Skin Color). Or that individual not being admitted to a University because of their Race (Skin Color).

    Is Bigotry against that individual.

    I emphasize individuals. Because unlike the Nazi's and KKK Fanatical Right Wingers, and their Fanatical Left Wing Cousins in Hate and Bigotry. Who must assign people as belonging to, in their definition, a Positive or Negative Race, Gender, Religion, Sexual Orientation, et al.

    Results in denying an individual entry to a University, because of their Race, Gender, Sexual Orientation.


    We can have this conversation, but that is not the current conversation. The current conversation is:

    991) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1881887)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So many irrational fantasies... But all allegories is lame.
    If the WW3 will begin, it will begin as the NATO/USA attack. Of course, it will be named in NATO/USA as "Preemptive strike" or "Precautionary blow for preventing future aggression" or something like this.


    Allegories stuff up my nose and sometimes make me sneeze.
    992) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881886)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you imagine the out cry if that was Obama and spoofing his skin color/colour.

    You would be drummed off the boards as a racist/bigot.

    Hah! ha!!


    Can you imagine the outcry if it was Intellejunt Dezine that made such a strawman argument as the one above?
    Why, he'd be debated on the boards ad nauseam until he went away with his coccyx between his legs!
    Ha! Ha!
    993) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881885)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you imagine the out cry if that was Obama and spoofing his skin color/colour.

    You would be drummed off the boards as a racist/bigot.

    Hah! ha!!

    Believing an individual is inferior, subhuman, racist, et al, because of their skin color. Is a Bigot.


    Believing someone has a bad tan job is not bigotry.
    994) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881884)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you imagine the out cry if that was Obama and spoofing his skin color/colour.

    You would be drummed off the boards as a racist/bigot.

    Hah! ha!!


    Uh, uh, uh ... now, you have to understand, I was just moving my tan forward.
    995) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1881737)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does Putin fear the Military Capabilities of these 8 nations.

    Apparently. Russia's military buildup around the Baltic Sea has increased very much the last years.
    According to Russia it's a response to NATO's buildup.
    It's the Cold War all over again...
    Let's say that Germany, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania left NATO.
    Would Russia de-escalate?
    I don't think so...

    Do the American people care about the Baltic Sea. Or willing to go to war with Russia?
    It will probably, for good or bad. Be considered a 'European Problem'.
    It is just the USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism. The foundation of Trump's and his supporters America First. Is not Xenophobia, nor stopping historically large Legal Immigration, but Isolationism.
    Meaning: Stopping unfair Trade Agreement. And letting Europe and Asia solve, what the American people incorrectly believe, are only Europe's and a Asia's problems.

    I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Sea.
    I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Countries.
    I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Cap of the North.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_of_the_North
    Well thats our 'European Problem'..
    So whats is NATO supposed to do?
    Backing home to sweet USA?

    USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism?
    I don't think Trump like that idea:)
    His very idea to make USA Great Again is that the Global Economy will follow the US economy.

    Misunderstanding of what words mean in a different culture.

    Trump's 'Make America Great Again'. Is Pre Pax Americana, and founded (excluding the fading Post WWII world) in the American Culture of Military and Political Isolation.

    IE: Russia? China? Your problem.

    IE: If you want to trade. If must be fair to both. If not... We go home. Manufacture what we need at home, at a greater price. But greater employment and pay.

    BTW: I am not saying I agree. It just is, what it is.

    NATO? Treaties throughout history. Are just Gentlemen's Agreement. With no meaning when one or more parties to the agreement. Believes it is not in their best interest.


    Trump's post Pax Americana need not be the pre-Pax Americana his supporters, or even some of his non-supporters, wanted/want.
    janne may be correct? re: Nafta 2.0 borrowing from "defunct" TPP.
    996) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1881698)
    Posted 3 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm old enough and somewhat experienced enough to recall owning in the mid-80s non-connected computers. I even recall making phone calls to connect to the VAX at work in the early 90s.

    VAX. Ah, memories:)

    At my university KTH in Stockholm they had those and it was called the WAX cabinet in the early 90s:)
    Together with the Norwegian NORD 100. It was shipped with the Sintran III operating system.

    Ops. That was a bit off topic.
    But the thought that North Korea doesn't have the know how and ability to use common technology to guide a missile is very naive.
    But not as far as to New York I hope:)


    I believe the suggestion is, even with what they lack, there's still much they could do.
    997) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1881671)
    Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right..........because their ICBM guidance, launch and support systems are made of wood and bubblegum and their communications systems are tin can/string telephones.........there is no way launch systems sophisticated enough to damage SoKo, Japan and US Territory, and other infrastructure can be remotely managed without computer control systems.


    Seriously?
    Perhaps we could have someone very very familiar with military history, along with the history of computers and of the Internet comment on this?
    Before ARPANet, early 1960 (?)s, supposedly the first successful test of an ICBM was in 1957? So ... ?

    There are digital computers and there are analog computers. Lots of people forget about the latter.

    Besides TCP/IP isn't the only way to network digital computers, despite what you think.


    I'm old enough and somewhat experienced enough to recall owning in the mid-80s non-connected computers. I even recall making phone calls to connect to the VAX at work in the early 90s.

    But maybe you meant "you" in a general sense?
    998) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1881657)
    Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right..........because their ICBM guidance, launch and support systems are made of wood and bubblegum and their communications systems are tin can/string telephones.........there is no way launch systems sophisticated enough to damage SoKo, Japan and US Territory, and other infrastructure can be remotely managed without computer control systems.


    Seriously?
    Perhaps we could have someone very very familiar with military history, along with the history of computers and of the Internet comment on this?
    Before ARPANet, early 1960 (?)s, supposedly the first successful test of an ICBM was in 1957? So ... ?
    999) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881654)
    Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe I should visit New York before it's too late.
    Start spreading the news, I am leaving today:)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u1zK8AaHic

    janne...

    Since most American's don't believe that European, Asian, African etc., are superior in their beliefs. No one cares what Europe, Asia, Africa, etc., thinks about America.

    Most American people only care , for good or bad. About The Economy and Illegal Immigration.

    Not Trumps Small Hands, Tweets, Lying Russia/Trump Collusion, Trump Administration Follies, etc.

    Until the Never Trumps, Democrats, etc. Come up with specific proposals to address the real concerns of the American People. Their Political Theater Hysterics will not change the outcome of the 2018 elections.


    So, janne should not visit NYC until after Kim Jung Un's missles can and have reached it?
    1000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1881576)
    Posted 2 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor is presently at the lower left coast and supposed to be here for the next couple of days.

    All Hail Thor!


    What what?
    1001) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881493)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Straw man, ye straw manneth thine self. (Thy self?)
    1002) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881492)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe if you work hard and pay taxes, you should understand quantum mechanics.
    Neil deGrasse Tyson, anyone?
    1003) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881491)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe if you work hard and pay taxes, you should not "stop believin'".
    Arnel Pineda or Steve Perry, anyone?
    1004) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881490)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe if you work hard and pay taxes, you should understand mathematics.
    1005) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881489)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MajorKong and I agree on some things. Especially that any viable alternative to Trump... Is worse.


    Make that us three who agree.

    Make that four of us...............

    +5

    Where is this list of viable alternatives?
    <snip>
    Who is on this list?
    <snip>

    Current viable alternatives to Trump are anyone who is a product of the swamp/sewer of washington dc.

    Future viable alternatives have yet to rise up to become citizen legislators.

    Kid Rock anyone?

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/23/kid-rock-run-senate-serious-michigan-analysis-215408

    https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/



    L ... oh ... fricking eL (Jor-El-Ohim, anyone?).

    Next up, the real Slim Shady, Eminem, MARSHALL MATHERS, everyone!!!

    Let's throw Dwayne Johnson, Kid Rock, Eminem and Scott freaking Baio in the ring all at once. Hunger Games style. Winner? Rules Panem.
    1006) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881487)
    Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But WHY lose him in 10 days? Why not 9? 11? Not at all? What about losing women?
    1007) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881443)
    Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scaramucci, Scaramucci, no longer gets to do the Fandango!
    Another one bites the dust!
    Oops, I mixed two Queen songs.
    1008) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1881440)
    Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FOX allowing this to be said: Scaramucci not the problem, Trump is: Gasparino. Must be those deep staters!

    Anyway, I believe this is Gen. Kelly saying, "Donald, I do not trust your decisions/hiring picks."
    1009) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880976)
    Posted 29 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't Reagan say something along the lines of "Government is not the solution, it is the problem"?
    I think one of things Trump is trying to do is be the problem.
    (I imagine MK will be in soon to say "And Reagan was right, and here's why." If so, save it, focus on the second line.)
    1010) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1880642)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the arm-chair conservative pundits on the innerwebs would quit complaining about Russia, Dear Leader could finally get around to doing what he's supposed to do. Destroy the U.S.A.
    1011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1880617)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Thor's day to all regardless of which way is up.
    Hail Thor on his day and enjoy


    "Up" is not Thoristically defined.
    1012) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880608)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wouldn't put that out of the realms of any reality ATM.

    Cheers.

    How about this for a reality ATM?

    Maybe tRump ought to ban that as well :-)


    How long before we wake up to a tweet such as "Upon consultation with Jared, Alaska is no longer a part of the U.S.A." That'll show Lisa Murkowski!
    1013) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1880607)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But DO YOU LIKE his music??

    BTW, basic math indicates there is a majority of REPUBLICANS in the Senate. And most of the so-called Democrats are more on the side of the Republicans than they "the Left",
    1014) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1880585)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://kidrock.com/blog/announcement/448202/when-my-name-was-thrown-out-there-for-us-senate
    One thing is for sure though…The democrats are 'shattin’ in their pantaloons' right now…and rightfully so!

    that guy...

    Off Topic. But perhaps more important.

    Your RAC is down to One. There are no active computers in the last 30 days. The last 'contact' with your computer, was June 6, 1017.

    Have you exited the Seti@Home attempt to find other intelligent life?


    Don't worry, he's off-topic, too. Nothing to do with 44 and jail.
    Perhaps even more important, "the guy", do you like Kid's "music"?
    1015) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880507)
    Posted 27 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly, those were holographic projections from both the past and future behind Trump. Furthermore, they were THIS close to revealing Trump as a Reptilian (like them), but they decided to wait.
    Clearly the reason tRump loves global warming is because he is cold blooded!


    Well I'm cold blooded, check it and see
    I've got a temperature of 23
    Come on baby, do you more than freeze?
    I'm cold blooded, I'm cold blooded!

    You don't have to read my mind, to know what I have in mind
    Russia, you oughta know
    Now you hack so fine, let me lay it on the line
    I wanna know what you're doin' after the popular vote

    Now it's up to you, we can reveal our secret renezvous
    Just me and you, I'll show you a business partnership like you never knew!

    That's why I'm cold blooded, check it and see
    I've got a temperature of 23
    Come on baby, do you more than freeze?
    I'm cold blooded, I'm cold blooded!



    (apologies to Foreigner)


    Mama, just killed a man.
    I was on 5th Avenue.
    Didn't lose a vote, not even two.
    Mama, political life had just begun.
    Now Spicy's gone away.
    Mama, ooo ooo ooo.
    I don't wanna be prez,
    sometimes I wish I'd never run at all.

    I'm just a rich man, 30% love me.

    Scaramucci, Scaramucci!
    Sean won't do the Fandango.
    Orangening, nor whiteniing.
    Very, very frightening!
    Michael Jackson!
    1016) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880484)
    Posted 26 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the same article if you read all of it.
    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/face-body/a-woman-with-interesting-eyebrows-upstaged-us-president-donald-trump-at-a-press-conference/news-story/ffbf51219f81c01f6e5f206854a16245
    But before you have too much fun, this Twitter-user made this salient point, which really sucks the joy out of the situation:

    The same people that criticize Trump's comments and gestures towards women are bashing on the eyebrows of the lady behind him yesterday


    Clearly, those were holographic projections from both the past and future behind Trump. Furthermore, they were THIS close to revealing Trump as a Reptilian (like them), but they decided to wait.
    1017) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880293)
    Posted 26 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Republican controlled House passes sanctions on Russia.

    Was that while he was crying to all those boy scouts about his life?

    Cheers.


    That was last night and this was today.
    1018) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880281)
    Posted 25 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Republican controlled House passes sanctions on Russia.
    1019) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880199)
    Posted 25 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Scaramucci! Scaramucci!
    Sean won't do the fandango.
    Orangening, not whitening.
    Very very frightening!"
    1020) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880198)
    Posted 25 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As long as we have big donors dumping money into the "horse races" on both sides, there's no reason to believe they will "fight for US".

    It was refreshing to see the most money spent did not win the election.
    http://classic.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do


    This does not change my sentiment.
    1021) Message boards : Politics : 45 LOVERS and 45 NON-LOVERS Thread.....DREE THEIR WEIRDs (Message 1880179)
    Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Mr. Kevvy

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic leaders believe they lost to President Donald Trump partly because voters don't know what the party stands for. So they're trying to rebrand themselves with a new slogan and a populist new agenda as they look ahead to the 2018 midterms.
    It's called "A Better Deal"...

    "There are three overarching goals: raising wages, lowering costs for families, and giving working Americans better skills for the 21st century economy."

    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2017-07-24-US--Democrats-Message/id-574c58d40d4649a58db6ad0d064af77d

    About time.

    Understanding that Anti Trump attacks, especially the hysterical phoney attacks. Do not translate into Pro Democrat Votes. Ir appears the Democrat Party has finally entered the real world.


    Still just words.
    As long as we have big donors dumping money into the "horse races" on both sides, there's no reason to believe they will "fight for US".
    1022) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1880127)
    Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the world of alt-centrism, one must preface every post with "I f'in hate f'in Hitler and f'in Stalin". But, it must be in a way where a more sanitized version of "f'in" is used.

    Sarge since you didn't include Castro or Pol Pot you must approve in all forms their ways.

    You are forgetting some others Vald and Kahn come to mind, you must approve of their ways. The pope and the Inquisition and the Crusades, you must approve. Rome and decimation. Lots more, too many to count, but you approve of them all.

    Alt-bridge-dwellerism, the destroyer of adult discussion and the promotion of temper tantrums and playground bully-ism.


    Didn't I already post "I condemn all bad things and praise all good things"? Can't we get a "better deal" around here? We'd be "stronger together"!

    Sarge... Guessing you have changed your mind.

    When the Murdering and Enslaving Dictator Fidel Castro died. I posted:

    Just another Criminal Leader dead. Good riddance.
    Unfortunately. The Cuban People's Ruling Class, as the Venezuelan People's Ruling Class, are still in Power.

    You replied:


    I would like to also say "good riddance" but ... .
    Though it was probably never specifically said by my elders while growing up, I believe somehow I was taught I should not wish anyone ill, not even any enemy.
    So, instead, I say, "Good luck, Cuba."

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80574&postid=1832863#1832863

    I condemned evil.

    Your equivocation in condemning evil. Was most informative.


    Nope.
    1023) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1880088)
    Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I, too, enjoy J.E.s blank posts. I am glad the mods let it slip that he posts blank things.
    1024) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1880062)
    Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting echo chamber responses. Keep it up. Wonderful confirmation, although they cannot admit it, of what I say.

    Off Topic... But worth repeating -

    that guy...

    I notice that you have no computers active in the last 30 days.

    Are you still participating in our Seti@Home attempt?

    Back to Subject:

    A much-discussed question at the top of the White House: just what magnitude of indignity would it take for Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to resign?

    President Trump knew that appointing Anthony Scaramucci as communications director would humiliate Reince, who fought hard against it.
    Scaramucci was smuggled into the meeting with the President on Thursday so Reince wouldn't know about it. Trump had already taken pains to hide the discussions from his Chief of Staff, knowing Reince would try to foil the move.

    Trump also knew that inserting a line in the press release saying Scaramucci would report directly to the President — doing an end-run around Reince — was perhaps an unendurable public humiliation.


    What will Priebus response be if he resigns? Will he 'spill the beans'?


    Past experience shows us that when "the Silly One" tires of not getting the conversation here to go this way, he stops accepting new S@H tasks. One must therefore wonder, did he ever wish to participate in the search for a signal? (Alternatively, to stack up a number of non-results, perhaps indicating absence?) Or, did he see that we had a political forum here and attach for only that reason?

    And what beans would Priebus spill? It's all a big nothing-burger, right?
    1025) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1880061)
    Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the world of alt-centrism, one must preface every post with "I f'in hate f'in Hitler and f'in Stalin". But, it must be in a way where a more sanitized version of "f'in" is used.

    Sarge since you didn't include Castro or Pol Pot you must approve in all forms their ways.

    You are forgetting some others Vald and Kahn come to mind, you must approve of their ways. The pope and the Inquisition and the Crusades, you must approve. Rome and decimation. Lots more, too many to count, but you approve of them all.

    Alt-bridge-dwellerism, the destroyer of adult discussion and the promotion of temper tantrums and playground bully-ism.


    Didn't I already post "I condemn all bad things and praise all good things"? Can't we get a "better deal" around here? We'd be "stronger together"!
    1026) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879990)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the world of alt-centrism, one must preface every post with "I f'in hate f'in Hitler and f'in Stalin". But, it must be in a way where a more sanitized version of "f'in" is used.

    Sarge since you didn't include Castro you must approve in all forms of his ways.


    Shoot, I forgot Castro wasn't a Stalinist Marxist. Thought I had that covered. "I freaking hate Hilter, Stalin and Castroinian Marxism!"

    But, you see, we can't even say "freaking". Because that would be non-sanitized. And we can't say anything remotely mean about people until they DO something, even if their ideologies fall smack dab into the same toilet dump to which one has so often referred.
    1027) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879985)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what can you expect from a person who doesn't believe that Mass Murdering Nazi's and Marxists should be assigned to Society's Toilet.

    Clyde I take VERY STRONG OBJECTION to you ascribing characteristics to anyone especially me when I have made no statement on this subject. What mental problem is causing you to project your biases on others?


    In the world of alt-centrism, one must preface every post with "I f'in hate f'in Hitler and f'in Stalin". But, it must be in a way where a more sanitized version of "f'in" is used.

    Because we don't want to seem deplorable and irredeemable, as we consign others to the trash heap of deplorability and irredeemability ... errr, I mean the toilet of history.
    1028) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879982)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of Chris Wallace.

    And Shep said "It's lie after lie after lie."
    1029) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879962)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As Darwin disposed of Aristotle's ladder of progress, so too eventually shall the Clydeian ladder hypothesis be dispelled.
    1030) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879955)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Ideology, of Alt-Centrism. of. Those that Speak Softly and Politely. while Doing. Terrible Things. The. False ideology of. False eQuivocation, Simplistic Explanation. The Ideology of Mistaking. The Terrible Deeds of Those that Desire Totalitarian. Power. for Their. Supposed. Spot. on the. Political Matrix. and Belief or. Lack of. Belief.

    Are destroying this country.
    Sad to watch.
    1031) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1879864)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I went to the planetarium today to get some special glasses, and they told me this area should experience a 96% eclipse this time. I'm kind of leery of using the glasses. I just hope it doesn't rain!


    I also obtained special glasses, Thurs. evening.
    1032) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879861)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Believes both Pence and kittyman are moral and ethical people.

    Clyde Pence wants to impose his religious values on me, is that moral or ethical?


    Some confuse speaking softly (with a silver tongue) with being good.
    1033) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879771)
    Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just say it. "Sarge is an independent." BELIEVE ME!!!
    1034) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879731)
    Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just say it: Trump is your Messiah.
    1035) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1879728)
    Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes Gordon, I remember that event here in Nashville. It was around noon here as well and. I had a pinhole in a piece of cardboard projecting onto a sheet of white paper. I think that it got up to a 3/4 eclipse. Yes the light was quite different then. The total eclipse will be even more strange and exciting.


    It is probably also the one I experienced in south central NY in the early 90s.
    1036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1879574)
    Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor took Chester Bennington home yesterday morning.
    1037) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Solar eclipse Aug 21, 2017 (Message 1879572)
    Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The science channel is making a big deal out of this. They are cool to watch but unfortunately I live about 300 miles south of the path the total eclipse will follow. I think my area will get between 50 and 75% totality.


    Nyah, nyah! 89% totality here!
    1038) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879569)
    Posted 22 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where can we find data on how long such investigations last?
    1039) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879531)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The New York Times states:

    "The F.B.I. has spent several months investigating the leads in the dossier, but has yet to confirm any of its most explosive claims."


    Translation? If it can't be confirmed in one day, it's fake?
    1040) Message boards : Politics : What? No thread on the USS Fitzgerald and the ACX Crystal? (Message 1879517)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Collision conclusion collusion delusion?!
    1041) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879476)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sean Spicer Resigns as White House Press Secretary, the swamp got too deep for him.
    WASHINGTON — Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned on Friday morning, telling President Trump he vehemently disagreed with the appointment of the New York financier Anthony Scaramucci as communications director.

    Mr. Trump offered Mr. Scaramucci the job at 10 a.m. The president requested that Mr. Spicer stay on, but Mr. Spicer told Mr. Trump that he believed the appointment was a major mistake, according to person with direct knowledge of the exchange.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html
    Guy is this fake news?


    FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1042) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1879451)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's a company like Exxon doing? Probably pretty well, Subsidies.
    1043) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1879449)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scaramuchi! Scaramuchi!
    Sean won't do the fandango.
    Orangening, not whitening.
    Very very frightening!
    1044) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1879437)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence may be dismissed.
    A paraphrase from a man that was no friend of the Clinton's.

    And schtuff would be easier to pay for if we weren't spending on crap such as ... what, SEVEN ... SEVEN?!? .... g*dd-g*dd-g*dd ... ummm, goofy foreign interventions? Among other things.
    1045) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879368)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-am sure recent poster has a sweaty limp handshake. :)


    Snowflake shall protesteth much.
    1046) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879363)
    Posted 21 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump's NAFTA Renegotiation Is TPP 2.0? Caution: mild language.

    P.S.-am sure recent poster has a sweaty limp handshake. :)
    1047) Message boards : Politics : What? No thread on the USS Fitzgerald and the ACX Crystal? (Message 1879168)
    Posted 20 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's Hillary's fault! All part of the devious plan she has to get Pence as 46.
    1048) Message boards : Politics : One good thing? (Message 1879148)
    Posted 20 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IIRC, I said some months ago if anything positive comes from the Trump presidency, I'd acknowledge it. And we might have one small thing, via Jeff Sessions.

    Search results.

    Does this mean I think Sessions is good? No. Trump is good? No. That I think Sessions won't find a way to turn this into something unnecessary/bad? No.

    Was that sessions or just the career lawyers, i.e. the swamp?

    The owner, Eric Snyder, and an associate were charged with fraudulently billing insurance companies for more than $50 million for false treatment and urine tests over nearly five years, the authorities said.

    Bruce Alan Zimet, a lawyer for Mr. Snyder, said that his client had been cooperating with investigators since 2014. “We anticipate having additional communications with the government,” Mr. Zimet said, “and we’re hopeful they’ll be listening carefully and evaluating whether this is a case that should go forward or not.”
    (source emphasis added).


    So, not really of Sessions' doing or remotely connected to being started by him?
    1049) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879147)
    Posted 20 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Correct.

    There has always been, is now, and will always be a Ruling Class.

    Only supreme idiots believe that either their Ruling Class is good. Or another Ruling Class will be better.

    So if you know that, why all the bullsh*t you continuously post?


    I wonder if the supporters of the French Resistance were "supreme idiots", after all, did they not believe a ruling class would be better than the occupying overlords they had? The Soviet refuseniks? The opposition to South African apartheid? The American revolutionaries? etc. etc.

    Here are a few Clyde condemns as supreme idiots for believing "another Ruling Class will be better":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montesquieu

    Seems to me the supreme idiot is one that claims complete and unerring knowledge of all time (was there a ruling class before life arose? "has always been" suggests yes), the supreme idiot is one that does not allow for the possibility that others may be able to make reasonable assessments of their "ruling class" and conclude a replacement may be better.


    My vote was for Tyrannasaurus Rex.
    1050) Message boards : Politics : What? No thread on the USS Fitzgerald and the ACX Crystal? (Message 1879146)
    Posted 20 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well there is now.
    It;s been a month and the biggest mystery in modern times for a Naval vessel has happened and not a word in here. What in the world could have been going on on the bridge of the Fitzgerald to allow it to be rammed by a ship twice its size but only capable of less than half its speed. Nobody at the wheel? Who was supposed to be monitoring the radars? Where were the required lookouts? Could it be that on the midwatch maybe some hanky and some panky was happening distracting those who were responsible for running the ship?

    What has happened to the world's morbid curiosity.


    Maybe

    1) The morbid curiosity is drawn elsewhere.
    2) We had our morbid curiosity burned out of us after discussing missing planes for more than a year?
    3) ?
    1051) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1879108)
    Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy your point is the things on the list should be encouraged?
    Clyde do you want me to clean fish in your drinking fountain?

    So are you suggesting that since there's no CFR saying it's illegal, that the federal government is encouraging me to urinate in water fountains?

    What you don't understand is that some K street lobbyist wrote these CFRs to force the wildlife and fisheries department to purchase faucets from the only supplier which labels some of their faucets "fish faucets" and then charges a price that returns a 10:1 or 100:1 profit.

    Drain the swamp!

    that guy... Attribution?

    If true and the reason to have this on your list.

    Accept my apologies. But don't expect any apologies from betregger or Gary.

    If not true...


    It would not be surprising. I mean, who could forget the evening news in 1985 where toilet seats for Air Force One cost $40000. 11 years later, wonderfully dramatized as "What? You don't really think they pay $40000 for a hammer, do you?" But, let us not forget that this particular fleecing of Muriqua took place under President Whitmore ... errr, ummm, Reagan.
    1052) Message boards : Politics : One good thing? (Message 1879007)
    Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IIRC, I said some months ago if anything positive comes from the Trump presidency, I'd acknowledge it. And we might have one small thing, via Jeff Sessions.

    Search results.

    Does this mean I think Sessions is good? No. Trump is good? No. That I think Sessions won't find a way to turn this into something unnecessary/bad? No.

    Was that sessions or just the career lawyers, i.e. the swamp?


    BTW, was this a slick way of saying sometimes a swamp can sometimes produce something good? Something other than gas?

    Surprised nobody else has jumped in.
    1053) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878905)
    Posted 18 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nasty Hobbitses won't deal with debt ceiling, mmm. Nasty Hobbitses taking the Ring to Mordor insteadses!
    Oops, wait, Andy Serkis is busy being Caesar the Mutated Ape, now.
    1054) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878903)
    Posted 18 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The popularity of Bernie's movement and Trump's success in the election are not the results of their charisma alone but reflect a major discontent with the status quo.

    Include the continuous false allegations from, and dismissed by the people: Ruling Class, their Fraud Media, the Democrat Party, the Alt Left, et al. Which is now, with increasing hysteria, including Trump Jr. Which even CNN admits there was no illegality.

    Hopefully, and I have no hope. Those making and parroting these falsehoods. Will eventually understand that personal ethics and morality, are more important than Power or Ideology.


    So, CNN is the interpreter and arbiter of the law? Thanks for that tidbit. I'll start watching.


    Wait! What?
    Chris Christie (a former prosectuor, yes?) had to go and disagree with CNNs admission of non-illegality?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/christie-getting-russian-oppo-research-probably-illegal-205306729--politics.html.

    Look, I know sometimes you have to sort through legalese. You have to sort through intent of writers of laws. Yadda yadda yadda. But, come on. Is there not a dang thing in this country that we can say without a doubt is legal or illegal?!? Yes, bring evidence. Have a trial of peers. So on and so forth. Whether there's evidence a crime was committed or not is one thing. But do we have to quibble over every single thing regarding whether it is a crime or not???
    1055) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878894)
    Posted 18 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And why hasn't the state of California, which is run totally by progressives, implemented a single payer health care system yet? California has more than their fair share of rich people, why haven't they raised taxes on the rich to pay for free health care yet?
    They are working out all the details right now. Who knew how complex Health Care is? Once it is adopted tRump will steal it and say it is a wonderful GOP thing and shove it down your throat as the replacement for Obamacare. Of course being Norquistian, the rates will be set at half the cost of running it, creating massive additional unfunded liabilities like the Nixon expansion of Vietnam, Bushes Iraq and Afghanistan. Looks like Korea and China are next on the Republican table.


    Is Guy still asking about this?
    Corporate Democrat Blocks Single Payer Healthcare In California.
    Now, if there's incorrect info in here somewhere, please let me know.
    In the meantime, it just looks to me like more of politicians (both "sides") not representing their constituents but their donors.
    1056) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878807)
    Posted 17 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Conundrum,
    How can Trump products be the best in the world, when they are not made, in the country that produces the best products in the world?

    Facts are lies.

    But which are the facts and which are the lies?


    This all sounds doubleplusungood to me.
    1057) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878779)
    Posted 17 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The ruling class of DC is necessary but must be contained (limited).

    Our ruling class in DC is supposed to be contained (limited). They've escaped over the last 100 years. The swamp creatures are running wild. The tyranny of progressivism is growing stronger and stronger. The ruling class of DC must be re-contained.

    We have a way to do it.

    CONVENTION OF STATES.


    Except that DC itself is not directly the 'ruling class'. The money driving DC, that money is coming from the *real* ruling class.

    Politicians are mostly puppets. That's why I have great respect for the few that stand by their guns, the few that can't be bought, the few that are really there because they've achieved great things or because they truly want to.


    [edit]
    and No, Guy, I'd not blame *you* for not paying your fair share of taxes. Not unless you're a billionaire. Otherwise you are probably paying *more* than your fair share.

    Progressive taxes aren't robbery. They are a way to keep the big money, the ruling class, in check, while making sure their success benefits THE NATION.

    Otherwise they might just take all the money, keep it, and let the rest struggle. Oh wait....


    Yap!
    And, from the post you're responding to, does this mean Guy thinks we still have a swamp???
    1058) Message boards : Politics : One good thing? (Message 1878731)
    Posted 17 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was that sessions or just the career lawyers, i.e. the swamp?


    In other words, who's idea was it? Even if not his, he'd have to approve it.
    1059) Message boards : Politics : One good thing? (Message 1878657)
    Posted 17 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IIRC, I said some months ago if anything positive comes from the Trump presidency, I'd acknowledge it. And we might have one small thing, via Jeff Sessions.

    Search results.

    Does this mean I think Sessions is good? No. Trump is good? No. That I think Sessions won't find a way to turn this into something unnecessary/bad? No.
    1060) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1878496)
    Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As suspected, there are currently no stances on policies currently listed.
    https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/.
    1061) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1878483)
    Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of the guys... Dismissing the silliness of the previous poster.

    We have had great disagreements. But, unlike the previous poster. I do find your thinking to be intellectually stimulating.

    Believing that you probably disagree with my description of 'Liberal' Academia and others.

    Do you believe that most of them really understand the USA and its people?


    While we await his reply ... .

    What are Kid Rock's stances on specific policy issues? Does he have any?

    Note to Clyde: if your children and grand-children haven't shared Kid Rock with you, he's a rapper, then rap-metal, then country singer. Not the same as Duane ("The Rock") Johnson.

    Now that he's apparently mostly country, it looks like he calls himself a king of "white trash" music.

    If the early part of the Wiki on him is anywhere near accurate, he did not have an impoverished childhood, as his father owned several car dealerships. He just got bored of be un-impoverished and ran away to Detroit to try his hand at r&b/hip-hop/rap music.

    Again, what are his policy stances, if any? Why should he be any better a representative of the average person than me or Marshall Mathers ("Eminem"/"The Real Slim Shady") for that matter?

    (Note: Eminem also grew up in a trailer park. There's at least a moderate amount of things he described, via his raps, about real childhood difficulties he had that I can relate to. However, I never had anywhere near the mouth he has and I chose to try to rise above than wallow in it. Kid Rock rose to prominence around the same time Eminem did and I suspect Kid Rock was a fake. Once a fake, always a fake?)
    1062) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1878464)
    Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's have a Constitutional Convention, where we can demand the wrong things! Because NOOOBODY wants the dark money out of politics.

    And who chooses the participants?

    The same people who are screwing us.


    Guy chooses, of course.
    1063) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1878463)
    Posted 16 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ROFLMAO................
    The comments sent listed after the story are just priceless.
    Huff Post take bus tour of Real America....

    Having just returned from Missouri. Staying with one of our daughters, her husband and this time, a new grandchild. Visiting their shops, parks, eating at their restaurants and attending a St. Louis Cardinal Baseball game.

    The Huff Post, in addition to the Fraud Alt Left Media and Left Wing Academia. Have no idea, will never accept, and will degenerate what, is to them, a 'Foreign Nation' and its people.

    Yes... The Huff Post, Alt Left, Fraud Media, Left Wing Academia, et al. Are that ignorant and stupid.


    This academic grew up in a TRAILER PARK. Don't pretend YOU know REAL Muriqua.
    1064) Message boards : Politics : Repeal it all - YAP (Message 1878280)
    Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess some guys like the corporate Dems of California, eh?
    1065) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1878276)
    Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is a rock a FAKE American?

    This is why the name calling Democrats and The Left are losing election, after election, after election.


    Obviously, you have not heard the suggestions Dwayne ("The Rock") Johnson run for President in 2020 as a Democrat.


    Jeeze...

    I was hoping that was not what you all had in mind when I saw the phrase 'a rock' used earlier...

    You all REALLY want to replace one WWE-affiliated putz in the White House now with another one?

    I can see it now...

    The Rock gives the Smackdown(tm) to the Swamp with the People's Elbow (tm).

    Sorry, but in my opinion, that would be an even bigger circus that we have now...


    All I have seen is "'a rock' a FAKE American?"

    As fake American is undefined and asking whether a rock is an American (fake or not) is just silly, the only rational thing to do was to mention the silly idea of running Johnson. Now that we've all (three of us) obviously agreed that running Johnson was and is a silly idea, let's move on.


    And now Kid Rock is running for Senate.
    1066) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1878232)
    Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I want *all* money out of politics. It's a horrible pit of tar.


    If we are to be educated on the candidates, they need to campaign and advertise. (You brought up education in another thread.) What I am for is only having donations from individuals and a cap on the donations.
    1067) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878189)
    Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Riiight. You think the world does not know it's Pence you really want after all?
    1068) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1878163)
    Posted 14 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alt-centrism is destroying this country.


    ROFL!


    We must lure the alt-centrists back to our Establishment-centrist fold. CNN. Joe Manchin. John McCain and Lou Gramm! The two "sides" working together to screw the country is the only way to save the country!


    Let's have a Constitutional Convention, where we can demand the wrong things! Because NOOOBODY wants the dark money out of politics.
    1069) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1878082)
    Posted 13 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is a rock a FAKE American?

    This is why the name calling Democrats and The Left are losing election, after election, after election.


    Obviously, you have not heard the suggestions Dwayne ("The Rock") Johnson run for President in 2020 as a Democrat.


    Jeeze...

    I was hoping that was not what you all had in mind when I saw the phrase 'a rock' used earlier...

    You all REALLY want to replace one WWE-affiliated putz in the White House now with another one?

    I can see it now...

    The Rock gives the Smackdown(tm) to the Swamp with the People's Elbow (tm).

    Sorry, but in my opinion, that would be an even bigger circus that we have now...


    All I have seen is "'a rock' a FAKE American?"

    As fake American is undefined and asking whether a rock is an American (fake or not) is just silly, the only rational thing to do was to mention the silly idea of running Johnson. Now that we've all (three of us) obviously agreed that running Johnson was and is a silly idea, let's move on.
    1070) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878052)
    Posted 13 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No CNN for you! Come back, one year! NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!
    1071) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1878048)
    Posted 13 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alt-centrism is destroying this country.


    ROFL!


    We must lure the alt-centrists back to our Establishment-centrist fold. CNN. Joe Manchin. John McCain and Lou Gramm! The two "sides" working together to screw the country is the only way to save the country!
    1072) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1878047)
    Posted 13 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The popularity of Bernie's movement and Trump's success in the election are not the results of their charisma alone but reflect a major discontent with the status quo.

    Include the continuous false allegations from, and dismissed by the people: Ruling Class, their Fraud Media, the Democrat Party, the Alt Left, et al. Which is now, with increasing hysteria, including Trump Jr. Which even CNN admits there was no illegality.

    Hopefully, and I have no hope. Those making and parroting these falsehoods. Will eventually understand that personal ethics and morality, are more important than Power or Ideology.


    So, CNN is the interpreter and arbiter of the law? Thanks for that tidbit. I'll start watching.
    1073) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1878015)
    Posted 12 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alt-centrism is destroying this country.
    1074) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1877970)
    Posted 12 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And tell me 'Socialist' are the refugees still occupying the island concentration camp in your 'enlightened' part of the World?

    STILL haven't seen any refuting of the FACTS presented.....................

    That's what you get when the right wing xenophobic nutters are in control of a country, but they've just about run their course down here so once the left get back in those remaining poor people should be freed quickly. ;-)

    Cheers.

    Another example of "Socialist" and Alt Left degeneration into personal name calling.

    JanudicedEye, as I have observed...

    Just scratch a Radical Lefty or Radical Righty enough. And what emerges, is the exact same.

    Of course... Neither will understand.

    Cheers.


    You're right, he won't, but stop calling him radical you Alt-Centrist. :)
    1075) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877969)
    Posted 12 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is a rock a FAKE American?

    This is why the name calling Democrats and The Left are losing election, after election, after election.


    Obviously, you have not heard the suggestions Dwayne ("The Rock") Johnson run for President in 2020 as a Democrat.
    1076) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1877868)
    Posted 11 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many things does 46 not have knowledge of?
    1077) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1877861)
    Posted 11 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the Republicans keep on winning, and winning, and winning.

    Donald Jr, talks to Russian lawyer, the Republican are truly winning. They can do anything.


    Only. In. the. Minds. of. the. Center. Right. Establishment/Corporatist. Media. which. I. Shall. Call. the. Alt-Left. is. Donald. Trump. Jr. talking. to. Russians. more. than. Anything. but. ... .


    sArge, what the heck are you talking about?
    1078) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1877833)
    Posted 11 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the Republicans keep on winning, and winning, and winning.

    Donald Jr, talks to Russian lawyer, the Republican are truly winning. They can do anything.


    Only. In. the. Minds. of. the. Center. Right. Establishment/Corporatist. Media. which. I. Shall. Call. the. Alt-Left. is. Donalf. Trump. Jr. talking. to. Russians. more. than. Anything. but. ... .
    1079) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877674)
    Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Define "voting history".

    Elections voted in?
    Or votes cast in those elections?

    Didn't know any place in the USA kept track of who you voted for in each contest. Must be one of those commie red counties.


    Is there any chance there's a district somewhere in the US that has kept track? Since 2006?
    If not, then they're just looking for when we've voted?
    1080) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1877673)
    Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So how's that "going to jail" bit progressing?

    Cheers.


    No, no, no, it's said as "How's that 'going to jail' thingy working out for ya? You betcha!"
    1081) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877652)
    Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Define "voting history".

    Elections voted in?
    Or votes cast in those elections?
    1082) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877547)
    Posted 9 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They say they are there to serve the people, but if you watch what they actually do when they get in office, all their decisions are based on self-serving needs.


    Donors needs.
    1083) Message boards : Politics : Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food and Drugs, Recalls #5 (Message 1877421)
    Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Odd how these deadly diseases get wiped out in one locale and then pop up somewhere else. And yes I know technically ebola and dengue are not the same.


    Also odd, where do cicadas go for 17 years?
    1084) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877420)
    Posted 8 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our obese leader with small hands doesn't think so, but his mission is to not have people look at the man behind the curtain.

    Another important factoid is that he is orange.


    Trump is like the father of the dysfunctional family, promising much and ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS disappointing his children.
    1085) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877353)
    Posted 7 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We truly have bigger things to worry about in this great country of ours. Much, much bigger things.


    Ditto.
    Our obese leader with small hands doesn't think so, but his mission is to not have people look at the man behind the curtain.


    I hear he was told "Go jump in the Gulf of Mexico"?
    1086) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1877351)
    Posted 7 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    betreger, if it didn't matter in the past, why should it matter in the present? (oh... that's right... hypocrisy...)

    Guy a couple of points.
    One, Don't put words into my mouth. I did not make any statement on whether it mattered or not.
    Two, neither Clinton was president at the time. You allegation of corruption is not a constitutional question but a civil or criminal one. There is a difference.
    Three, Trump is president now and it does matter whether he follows the constitution. His ethics advisor thought so and reacted accordingly.


    4: One reason HRC lost was a large number of people believing she was corrupt, something donald JOHN! trump may have been correct in calling her out for, but the hypocrisy is on the side of the "winner(s)".
    1087) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877347)
    Posted 7 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This was an excellent post, MK. I'd only like to add that it should be expected in any system that there will be a percentage of people looking to take advantage of loopholes. It only depends on how much energy you want to expend on decreasing that percentage to as close to zero as you can, in this case at the cost of liberty over enforcement.

    I do not think voter fraud requires this much energy and attention. It is mostly sore butts on both sides trying to make excuses for why they lost (in recent years that's been the R's). Does voter fraud happen? Undoubtedly. Is voter fraud bad? Yes, absolutely. Is it widespread causing major loses for any party? I seriously doubt it.

    We truly have bigger things to worry about in this great country of ours. Much, much bigger things.


    Ditto.
    1088) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1877164)
    Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "Hi, I'm Sarge! I'm here from the Church of Sesame Street to ask you 'Have you found reason yet?' Because you could really use some reason in your life right now!"
    1089) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877093)
    Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On looking around I notice that just about every case of alleged voter fraud in 2016, was committed by a republican. Could it be that by convincing his core supporters that there was going to be "massive voter fraud" by the democrats, they decided to do their little bit to offset it to get the fakepresident into power, or is it his core supporters have a higher than average number of criminals.

    I also see it reported, in several places, that 44 states have now said they will not release all of the data requested, without looking further, I can only assume that this is only bad news if you live in the states that will submit their data to the Secretary of State Kris Kobach, presumably these are deep red states that voted for the Fakepresident, so that's not going to upset many people.


    I have also heard 40+ to 44. (You beat me to it.) Maybe it's fake news? Maybe 44 states have agreed to provide the info?
    But, if it's true, what do Democrats AND Republicans, now, have to hide? Hmmm, Clyde?
    1090) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1877016)
    Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And each citizen should only be allowed to vote once. And if citizens need to show an ID card for dozens of other services/goods, then showing an ID to vote is not a problem today. Period. bill

    A tattoo on the forehead or wrist would be much more efficient.


    Ooooh, the Mark of The ... !
    1091) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1877014)
    Posted 6 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You won't be missed Clyde as there are a few others around here that will continue to promote what we find to be the worst of U.S. attitudes and thinking while you're away anyhow. ;-)

    Cheers.


    I'll cover for Clyde, ok?
    1092) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1876994)
    Posted 5 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As betreger doesn't understand:
    Unless we can verify that the person is who they say they are. Unless we can verify that the person lives in the District they vote and is a Citizen...
    Well... See the problem of stopping voter fraud.

    That's not a problem on a micro or macro level, you are creating a straw man argument.

    I think not.
    Voter fraud is real.
    Both in the US and Russia.
    Sorry to say I have no proofs of neither countries does it.
    But there are many video clips on the Internet showing how it works!

    There are also video clips purporting to show UFOs and claims that NASA has child sex slave colonies on Mars. (With no life on Mars, how they produced cheese for the enticing pizza is beyond me.) So, clearly, not all videos are to be believed. If one person can claim Hollywood faked the Moon landings, what's to stop me from believing purported evidence of voter fraud is not also faked? It'd be easier to make such a video, wouldn't it?
    My problems with Trump administration demands?
    1) Who was ever told, when moving, you have to un-register in the old place? I never ever heard that. Just register once at your new home. Not my fault if the previous state hasn't noticed I haven't voted there in 8 years.
    2) What business is it of theirs what my voting record back to 2004 or 2006 is? If it's their business, why do we even have secret ballots in the first place and why aren't they then asking for my voting history in its entirety?!?

    Cheese?
    Wallace - Everybody Knows The Moon's Made of Cheese
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qagA4_eVQ

    You apparently haven't looked at the CCTV videos from the last election in Russia.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRqEMIdSDGE


    Focus on

    1) Who was ever told, when moving, you have to un-register in the old place? I never ever heard that. Just register once at your new home. Not my fault if the previous state hasn't noticed I haven't voted there in 8 years.
    2) What business is it of theirs what my voting record back to 2004 or 2006 is? If it's their business, why do we even have secret ballots in the first place and why aren't they then asking for my voting history in its entirety?!?
    1093) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876783)
    Posted 4 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

    A summery of the actual doco.

    A direct link to the doco, but whether it works OS can't be guaranteed.

    No "Big Capitalist News Media's" involved here you silly man. LOL

    Cheers.

    CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post et al, are not, according to "Socialist". Capitalist News Media's, making big profits from those with his Anti Capitalist beliefs.

    Fascinating.


    You assumed, when he mentioned ABC, that he meant "American Broadcasting Corporation", did you not? Or. have I added another layer of assumption? I think not, based on the previous posts, taken along with you're now mentioning other media outlets in the USA. Yet, it would appear Wiggo is NOT referencing US media outlets. Whether Australian media outlets, or at least the one he mentions, is/are "cleaner" than those in the US is another question.
    1094) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876733)
    Posted 4 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Hey, You OLD WHITE Guy HATERS Got Nothin' Else to Do, So Indulge Your BOREDOMs.

    Dull was one a worm I'm an old white guy but I have values,


    <=== White.
    Not old, but faaaar from young.
    Hope I have values and knowledge, too. :)
    1095) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1876732)
    Posted 4 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As betreger doesn't understand:
    Unless we can verify that the person is who they say they are. Unless we can verify that the person lives in the District they vote and is a Citizen...
    Well... See the problem of stopping voter fraud.

    That's not a problem on a micro or macro level, you are creating a straw man argument.

    I think not.
    Voter fraud is real.
    Both in the US and Russia.
    Sorry to say I have no proofs of neither countries does it.
    But there are many video clips on the Internet showing how it works!


    There are also video clips purporting to show UFOs and claims that NASA has child sex slave colonies on Mars. (With no life on Mars, how they produced cheese for the enticing pizza is beyond me.) So, clearly, not all videos are to be believed. If one person can claim Hollywood faked the Moon landings, what's to stop me from believing purported evidence of voter fraud is not also faked? It'd be easier to make such a video, wouldn't it?

    My problems with Trump administration demands?

    1) Who was ever told, when moving, you have to un-register in the old place? I never ever heard that. Just register once at your new home. Not my fault if the previous state hasn't noticed I haven't voted there in 8 years.
    2) What business is it of theirs what my voting record back to 2004 or 2006 is? If it's their business, why do we even have secret ballots in the first place and why aren't they then asking for my voting history in its entirety?!?
    1096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday, Eric (Message 1876663)
    Posted 3 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday, Eric!
    1097) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876545)
    Posted 3 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, finally, someone who says something that's not implying I want total anarchy by zeroing out government. (betreger...)

    You, being a neighbor of the north, and only seeing a news media which is so far left, you, and many others have been conditioned to believe that the majority of the news media is in the center.

    And now we have someone in the white house who knows how to defeat them at their own game and everybody is flipping out.

    $20T in "on the books" debt, $200T in "off the books" debt and all anybody is talking about is spending more and more money on health care.

    All this debt and since the CBO can only score "statically", everyone is afraid to try something bold and new *in a dynamic market place* which would cause a little bit of pain initially, but would in all likelyhood, make healthcare much better within a few years.

    Of course, saving health care, while not causing us to go through a currency reset and permanent rationed health care would be devastating to the democratic party, so the democrats are fighting it to the death.

    Our constitution was created from a group of *independent* and *sovereign* states. We are a nation of *states*. We all came together and gave our *federal* government enough power to do the things the states could not do on their own effectively/efficiently. We have 50 experiments in government and we can learn from the mistakes of each of our states. Illinois, California, and a few other states are on the verge of financial collapse. Guess what? If a state goes bankrupt, we *as a nation* can handle it, recover from it, learn from it and move on. The progressive movement is working to do away with these 50 experiments and put all power and control in one place. Guess what, if that one, big, centralized, all powerful government causes us to go bankrupt, who's going to help us? NOBODY.

    Our federal government has been ignoring more and more of the rules. And it's this alone which is causing most of our problems.

    If Florida wants to have a law which allows parents to contest science subjects in school, WHY NOT? It's not affecting the other 49 states. If California wants a single-payer health care system, WHY NOT? If Nevada wants to legalize weed, WHY NOT? Let them do it. Let's see what happens. If it works out, we can learn from them. If it's a total failure, we can RECOVER FROM IT and learn from them also.

    Our strength lies in the fact that we are a nation of independent and sovereign states, with an agreed to federal government handling the things which can't be effectively handled by each state--currency, post office, national roads, telecommunication standards, standardized weights/measures, etc.

    Why did the obama administration force so many things down the throats of each INDEPENDENT and SOVEREIGN STATE? Look into the human nature our founders knew about already and you'll find the answer.

    It's not me portraying a false dichotomy, it's the left who promote things which always lead to failure on a national level--which has been shown time and time again throughout the last couple thousand years of human history. There's never enough "PROGRESS." When progress is made, it always leads to MORE "progress." "Progress" is always a government solution. And the government solution to everything is to keep 10%/20%/30% of the revenue to pay federal workers to manage the rest of the revenue and they *NEVER* have enough revenue to do all the things they promise. The ultimate "end" to progress is 100% tax on everything, and rationed services and goods with what's left. I've talked to folks from the former soviet union and they told me what life was like prior to 1993 and after 1993. "It was in the news one day that the USSR is 'no more.' Then, all of a sudden, there were things on the shelf at the grocery store to buy and no more lines."

    When you hear the term "American exceptionalism", it's the idea that the U.S. flipped the power structure for the first time in history. Our constitution was written so the individual has maximum freedom and is able to keep maximum freedom from the natural tyranny which always starts off with from "good intentions" and grows into a form of slavery of one type or another.

    A Convention of States could go a long way to restoring our "American Exceptionalism" by putting our federal government back into its tiny little steel cage it was originally created in and allowing our 50 experiments in government to carry on with what works and to try other things. If enough of the states find something that works, guess what? We can then codify it at the national level with a CONVENTION OF STATES.

    Trump von Karlstad doesn't like long postings.
    Could you please boil it down to about four sentences please.
    LOL:)


    Gullaume thinks we think he is an anarchist? LOL!
    No.

    http://www.cslewis.org/resources/studyguides/Study%20Guide%20-%20Miracles.pdf

    Lewis pictures the Naturalist as having a “democratic” picture of reality, and the Supernaturalist as having a “monarchical” one.


    He wants a king, a king to rule in substitute for his "King".

    When a president does not seem to follow their view of "the King", they accuse him of wanting to be "a" king.
    1098) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1876388)
    Posted 2 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How does that rank against a Masters from a university in the top 10 world rankings.

    Nick: ID 666...

    Your question confirms what I have been posting.

    Actually, it may be worse.

    Do you actually believe it is only The Right of The Smartest of The Superior's, to vote?

    Absolutely not.
    All people, including prisoners, should have the vote. It is not the people's fault that allows politicians and so called news outlets to feed them false information.

    Acknowledging The Right's, so called news outlets:

    Mostly, it is The Left's, so called news outlets, are the problem regarding our future.

    Their hysterical, lying, acceptance of violent anti freedom criminality, and extremely dangerous to our freedoms Fake News. Is what is fueling The Resistance to the Democrats, and the correctly dismissed alleged news.

    Unfortunately... The necessary destruction of their freedom destroying, hate filled and evil ideology. Will probably lead to another freedom destroying, hate filled and evil ideology.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    --- George Santayana


    Leftist news outlets?!? LOL! LOL! LOL! Joe & Mika are largely responsible for the normalization and success of Trump. Lauer & Guthrie are close seconds.
    Remember, how, around the time of invading Iraq, Katie Couric, a few years after losing her husband, oozed "mmm, I loooove a man in uniform!"
    1099) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876384)
    Posted 2 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is making some progress in fixing our out-of-control government. And zeroing out the science teachers in the white house is one of many small steps in fixing our out-of-control government.

    Guy, I agree our government mandating an educated populous is just appalling. If they use the scientific method they may reject the oligarchs, bible thumpers and ideologues.
    Once again you are a mighty source of knowledge about the world you inhabit.

    betreger...

    I was thinking the same about you, in addition to Guy ;-)


    I wasn't thinking anything.
    I just believe everything y'all says on herre. Imma confused. U all having sum sort of disagreement?
    1100) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876352)
    Posted 2 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where in the constitution does it authorize the white house to teach science?

    That's a very silly question.
    In order to read and understand the US Constitution you need to have some education.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8zAWm80CQ


    After a localized flood and some other things, education in Sumeria ground to a halt. People couldn't understand each other eventually. Later, less-informed people from a nearby land blamed it on the Tower to Marduk. As if the Sumerians could read THE King, as THE King is beyond time & space.
    1101) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1876345)
    Posted 2 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tweet
    Vice President Pence
    ✔
    @VP

    I’m honored and frankly enthusiastic about the role @POTUS has asked me to play in renewing our nation’s commitment to space.


    Liar, Liar, pants on fire.

    RSC BUDGET OPTIONS 2005
    Rep. Mike Pence, RSC Chairman

    TITLE III:  REPRIORITIZATION OF FEDERAL SPENDING
    Table 3:  Summary of Savings in Title III 
    (Savings from Baseline, in Millions of Dollars)				5-year		10-year 
    							2006		savings		savings 
    Eliminate the National Science Foundation
    Math and Science Program				-188		-973		-2,036
    Cancel NASA's New Moon/Mars 
    Initiative						-1,493		-11,51		-44,042
    Eliminate State and Community Grants 
    for Energy Conservation .......

    Obama... Obama Care will save you $2500.00.

    Yes... Pence is a Member of the Corrupt Washington Political Class.

    What else is new?


    But! But! He's so POLITE. And Tim Kaine was such a meany!!!
    1102) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876343)
    Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If your king tells you they can teach science, you won't complain about the Constitution.
    And, if your king and his cronies twist it to sound as if THE King (as CSL discussed), you will roll over and fawn at their attempts to "teach" "science",
    1103) Message boards : Politics : Emoluments of FAKE 'Science' and of ROTFLMAO, 'Real' 'Science'. (Message 1876342)
    Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this science real enough for you?

    P.S.-you're welcome for the fake "views" count.
    1104) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876245)
    Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning Joe is the most offensive cable show there is. The ONLY theme, day after day is bash Trump. They call him a pig, a thug, unfit to lead and now that he is unhinged.............

    The People do understand that the Radical Left, Fake Alt Left News Media, Dumocrat Party, et al. Are totally unhinged.

    The Dums keep on losing, and losing, and losing.

    Fun to observe.


    So now Joe S. is a Democrat? Riiight. He's largely responsible for Trump's normalization and election.
    1105) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1876135)
    Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is a smart person?


    No he isn't a successful businessman; what is it now, 5 bankruptcies? He is a successful thief and bully. Con man would be an apt description. Con men belong in jail.


    I'm trying to be nice.


    Why not say exactly what you think? You can do the same about Obama's mistakes and so on.
    1106) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1875724)
    Posted 29 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't worry, his socialist veteran healthcare will take care of him.
    Guy accept welfare?! You owe me a keyboard.

    Payment for services rendered is not welfare.

    Funny thing is it is still mandatory https://www.sss.gov/
    You might have put your hand up, but it is still welfare.
    http://missoulian.com/news/opinion/mailbag/veterans-affairs-it-s-just-a-social-welfare-program/article_9fa64134-e808-11e3-ae0a-0019bb2963f4.html wrote:
    The VA and Social Security Administration have been turned into social welfare programs by the Obama administration and the government’s own statistics prove my thesis. Veterans be damned!


    But if you really want a shock, VA is just the same problem sinking Kansas and Illinois. Unfunded future obligation, combined with Grover Norquist. Want their cake and eat it too. You see Reagan got this, that is why he did the largest tax increase in history. He knew you have to pay for what you spend, unlike Grover Norquist. And that is why he is great.


    Is the military socialist? | Debate.org
    www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-military-socialist

    We All Benefit. It is socialist because we all benefit from the services of the military regardless of how much we pay into it individually. A rich person that pays a ...
    1107) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1875427)
    Posted 28 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    guy, since you are my source of non fake news I hope your AC is working OK, after all heat stroke can cause hallucinations. I am concerned about your health.


    Don't worry, his socialist veteran healthcare will take care of him.
    1108) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1875262)
    Posted 26 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The media has allied themselves with progressives??? You mean, the media has allied themselves with corporate Rs & corporate Ds who speak politely but then enact non-polite things.


    There is a difference?

    I said progressives.

    You said Rs and Ds.

    Same thing.

    Progressiveism infected both parties in the late 19th to early 20th centuries.


    Ah, I see. Sanders & Warren types, for example, are everywhere in both parties. Sha', right.
    1109) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1875051)
    Posted 25 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When he is presented with data that he doesn't like he always says "It's a fake"
    When media writes about him that he doesn't like he always says "It's a fake"


    The same as everyone including you.

    Now, I don't like Trump, nor did I vote for him in any way. Populists and populism are very, very Dangerous. And Trump's campaign was extremely populist.

    That said...

    I think that Trump is doing a fairly good job as President... so far...

    Most of what the 'media' presents as 'news' is, to varying degrees, FAKE. The 'media' has allied itself with the big government progressives, Trump campaigned that he was going to 'drain the swamp'. At least he is TRYING to fulfill his campaign promise. I will give him that much credit. However, I am of the opinion that Trump grossly underestimated the power of the big-government progressives in all aspects of Washington D.C. (and the media too). Trump is having a hard time doing what the electorate sent him to Washington D.C. to do... Drain the Swamp.


    The media has allied themselves with progressives??? You mean, the media has allied themselves with corporate Rs & corporate Ds who speak politely but then enact non-polite things. Hence, why CLYDE thought Pence was better than Kaine (when in fact, both are bad). Pence, the corporate R plus a theocrat and Kaine a corporate D.

    Trump is not facing a hard time draining the swamp. He has filled positions with exactly those he planned to (probably along with Pence & Bannon). Mega-wealthy Christian dominionists.
    1110) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1875050)
    Posted 25 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All hail & praise to Pence! He has successfully sent gas prices tumbling down! Keep 'em guessing, 46! Never know which way those prices are going to go!!!
    1111) Message boards : Politics : Repeal it all - YAP (Message 1874522)
    Posted 22 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Demographics of the US indicates that most of the top 20% who will benefit from the tax cuts associated with ACHA are college educated people living in States that vote Democrat.

    Those states may vote Democrat but the top 20% are mostly Republicans IMO.

    Even the 1%ers are not totally Republicans.


    About 70% those in the top Quintile have college degrees or higher, and of those with college degrees or higher 55% vote Democrat.


    Get more data and make a Venn diagram.
    1112) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1874057)
    Posted 19 Jun 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gets it wrong everytime, just like his boss 45 did.


    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

    I'm being investigated for posting by the man that told me to post!
    This Sarge is NOT under investigation and this SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED!!!
    1113) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1870359)
    Posted 31 May 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gets it wrong everytime, just like his boss 45 did.
    1114) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1870358)
    Posted 31 May 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whuzzap?

    Same crap just a different day. Nothing to see here. Move along now...

    This is my thread. Do I have to bodyslam you before you realize I'm the one that says "Nothing to see here, move along"?!? ;)
    1115) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1868209)
    Posted 19 May 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whuzzap?
    1116) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1862140)
    Posted 18 Apr 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, just my pivot to being more Sarg-e-dential. Ain't I such an honorable Sarge now that I've "pivoted"?
    1117) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1862106)
    Posted 17 Apr 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A "modest proposal". Is just a typical Need to Control. Under the pretext of...

    Very informative.


    Yes, a need to control one's own self, to avoid the need to comment on every single thing. To take time to reflect, I shall demonstrate for you.

    Yes Sarge...

    I will obey!

    :) :) :)


    Hilarious! See ya later!

    OK :)


    I do hereby declare this is the only message I've read here in a few weeks. However, I also declare that everything Clyde has said is good is good and everything Clyde has said is bad is bad. I denounce all you extreme rightiy/leftys and all you have said in my absence!

    +1 :-)


    ^
    |

    Fake news?
    1118) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1858496)
    Posted 31 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A "modest proposal". Is just a typical Need to Control. Under the pretext of...

    Very informative.


    Yes, a need to control one's own self, to avoid the need to comment on every single thing. To take time to reflect, I shall demonstrate for you.

    Yes Sarge...

    I will obey!

    :) :) :)


    Hilarious! See ya later!

    OK :)


    I do hereby declare this is the only message I've read here in a few weeks. However, I also declare that everything Clyde has said is good is good and everything Clyde has said is bad is bad. I denounce all you extreme rightiy/leftys and all you have said in my absence!
    1119) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1856033)
    Posted 17 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A "modest proposal". Is just a typical Need to Control. Under the pretext of...

    Very informative.


    Yes, a need to control one's own self, to avoid the need to comment on every single thing. To take time to reflect, I shall demonstrate for you.

    Yes Sarge...

    I will obey!

    :) :) :)


    Hilarious! See ya later!
    1120) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1853939)
    Posted 9 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the time being, please PM me suggestions.
    1121) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1853817)
    Posted 8 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A "modest proposal". Is just a typical Need to Control. Under the pretext of...

    Very informative.


    Yes, a need to control one's own self, to avoid the need to comment on every single thing. To take time to reflect, I shall demonstrate for you.
    1122) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1853738)
    Posted 8 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mr. Chairman, I propose an amendment, to have politics open to posts only after your BAC is above .50

    <opens thread>
    ...
    <opens another thread>
    ...
    <opens another thread>
    ...
    <starts saying very questionable things in each thread>
    ...
    <stops typing coherently>

    It seems to be what happens here, except perhaps about opening threads, more like float by open threads.


    Will the esteemed Congressman ofrom Malastair accept a counter-amendment proposal?
    1123) Message boards : Politics : A modest proposal (Message 1853626)
    Posted 7 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I propose that our politics forum only be open Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
    And for anyone with "--" as a post several hundred in a row, only open Tuesdays.

    ;)
    1124) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1853521)
    Posted 6 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...

    If DNA does Change or Mutate.

    Wouldn't the Change or Mutation result in either an Advancement or Decline?

    I accept your apology.


    There's a subject?
    As the thread has not "advanced", is it time for a lock?
    1125) Message boards : Politics : I am now very sad to have watched the Oscars. (Message 1853332)
    Posted 5 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All I am seeing here in politics across multiple threads is personal attacks by many people.

    I think it is time to look at what you are all posting, it is just the same rehashed posts over and over.

    Nothing really new for days and days now.

    As someone from outside the USA I would quite like to try and understand what is happening in the political situation currently..

    And how it might affect Europe and the world.

    I am not getting any information from these threads.


    Didn't you notice I didn't post Saturday? I've had, what, 6 posts this week? I take breaks. When I come back, I find a load of stuff to read through, not much of it good. Why must people post so much so quickly? For some, it is clear that involves a lack of reflection.
    1126) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1853330)
    Posted 5 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I look at the present era, as an Historian. 1000, 2000, or more years in the future.

    Now... Look at the past 500,1000, 2000, 5000 years of Human Civilizations and Era's.

    Nothing significantly new or different. Especially if one understands that Human DNA has not advanced.


    An "Historian" would appreciate that molecular biology is not their area of expertise. To the best of my understanding DNA does not "advance" it mutates, to the best of my understanding all life on earth present today is the result of the same 3 or so billion years of genetic mutation; and from the perspective of DNA, no species is more "advanced" than any other. Oh, and human DNA has changed over the past 5000 years.


    DNA advance? A belief in a b*****dization of Darwin's theory, a.k.a. "social Darwinism"? Who else has held that belief? DNA does not advance!
    1127) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1853111)
    Posted 5 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @realDonaldTrump @POTUS Tell us what happened at Roswell! @billclinton wouldn't do it! http://preview.tinyurl.com/hfc82yx
    1128) Message boards : Politics : LOCK (Message 1852240)
    Posted 2 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread may now be locked.
    It went about as expected.
    Some from both "sides", but mostly a so-called independent casting aspersions onto most of the rest of us, claiming we think and do things we do not. DISGUSTING! Having exposed that, done here.
    (And no, I have not and will not forget.)
    1129) Message boards : Politics : I am a Christ child, so therefore I shall attempt to save you as well. (Message 1852239)
    Posted 2 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Y'all can quit beating each other up on my behalf.
    It was not my intention to start up such infighting.

    So, please kiss and make up now....

    ....

    ROFLMFAO!!!!!

    Cheers.


    C'mere, marky, so I can plant a big un on ye.

    Tickle them tonsils!


    They only do that on Class BA dash 3 PLANETS.
    1130) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1852238)
    Posted 2 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are far more angry white christians in the US than agnostics.
    That is a simple fact, and not an attack on anybody.


    So do those agnostics have an equal right to have their voices heard? Or should they resolve themselves to be second-class citizens whose opinions don't matter?

    And The Left and Progressives are not doing the same to Religious Believer's? Attempting to make them "second-class citizens whose opinions don't matter"

    OzzFan...

    Those you attack. Are just following The Left and Progressives lead.


    Horse puckey, false equivalency. As the religious still make up at LEAST 75-80%, that means there are many on the left that are (1) religious and (2) likely Christian. Furthermore, S.E. Cupp is a famous conservative atheist.
    1131) Message boards : Politics : I am a Christ child, so therefore I shall attempt to save you as well. (Message 1852195)
    Posted 1 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Y'all can quit beating each other up on my behalf.
    It was not my intention to start up such infighting.

    So, please kiss and make up now....

    ....

    ROFLMFAO!!!!!

    Cheers.


    C'mere, marky, so I can plant a big un on ye.
    1132) Message boards : Politics : Whispers in the corridors of the U.S Congress...Impeachment is coming soon. (Message 1852194)
    Posted 1 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another rat jumps ship.

    Damn right.

    Trump is correct. He's not, as Gary apparently believes in and accepts: One of Washington Rats!

    Trump is getting rid of the rats.


    EXCUSE ME?!? Trump picks someone super ratty to mildly ratty, person refuses, and TRUMP gets credit (after making a bad choice) for the other realizing ... ummm, I'd just be helping you FILL your swamp?

    HUH?!?
    1133) Message boards : Politics : I am now very sad to have watched the Oscars. (Message 1852193)
    Posted 1 Mar 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Better yet, I vow to never view another useless post by a useless person like yourself.
    Consider yourself now blocked.
    And you would be the first EVER.

    kittyman... Don't block. Shake you head in disbelief, responding every now and then.

    Regarding The Topic:

    It is better that their putrid and fetid inner hatred of those Not Them. Is exposed to the Cleaning Air of Ethics, Morality and Tolerance.

    Understanding they have no Ethics, Morality, nor Tolerance. And most probably will never. Their self-exposure will probably lead to their consignment to the Toilet Bowl of History.

    We can only hope.


    What's an Oscar?
    And, please, kittyman, DO block. Seeing you spew your hatred back at people (via quotes of quotes of quotes) who have had the good sense to ignore you, as you have done for 10+-11+ years ... ugh. Give it a rest already! Clyde is going to try to act as if YOU are a well-behaved man after all this time, that will pull the rest of us up or consign us to the toilet??? NO!!!! Stop dragging US in with YOU! Or I'll get so depressed I'll need to down some Fireball this weekend.
    1134) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1851941)
    Posted 27 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And just when we thought it was all over.
    I see his freakish smirk again.
    The csucker is getting front page news again.
    I hate the arrogance of the man.

    kittyman...

    Don't lower yourself to the Left Wing Toilet. Just let them continue exposing their evil and hate.

    The Left and Progressives are doing a wonderful job destroying any belief in their Tolerance, Morality, Ethics, et al.


    I'm shocked.
    kittyman never sinks to this.
    He must be right, he's so emotional about it.
    1135) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1851769)
    Posted 27 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @realDonaldTrump 44 @POTUS 44 (@POTUS44) and Dems tweeted too much! You can one-up by ing less than him! #ugotthisbro
    1136) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850648)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...

    Do you wish to comment regarding the following post by Sirius B:

    I think 12,000 years of historical use outweighs the paltry 80 years or so it was evil.

    My response:

    Ask the millions murdered under that symbol. What is The Truth about about you! I will agree 100%

    Asked the survivors of the Death Camps. What is The Truth about you! I will agree 100%

    Ask the relatives, crying over the fading pictures of their murdered loved ones. What is The Truth about you! I will agree 100%.

    Ask any Moral and Ethical person to describe you. I will agree 100%

    I am also asking all other Poster's. What their response, if any, to Sirius B is.


    I would like the 12000 years to outweigh the 80, but understand that some can't see it that way. I also would like it if symbols such as flags had no meaning at all and couldn't invoke blind patriotism vs. Kaspernick on a knee.
    1137) Message boards : Politics : LOCK (Message 1850647)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many vile symbols here?


    Well asked.
    1138) Message boards : Politics : LOCK (Message 1850644)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's not interfering with the freedom of the press.

    What?
    I have seen press conferences where Trump explisity have been saying to some of the journalists trying to ask questions.
    "Not you, Next please".
    "Not you, Next please".
    Who would believe this?
    In the US...


    Maybe he'll listen to you, janne. He sure as heck won't give any of the rest of the time of day. We're all pinkies to him.
    1139) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850554)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I won't go round and round on this with you.
    I'm not going to search my post history here or other places I discuss things with people for further evidence. But you will never ever find me in support of that regime.

    Sarge...

    Sorry for the Inconvienent Question.

    NAZIs SUCK! The Holocaust was HORRIBLE! Is that clear enough for you? It wasn't evident to you? WOW!

    Disingenuous argument.

    We were speaking of the use of their Modern Day Evil Symbol as an Avatar.

    The only responses to this. Was your and other's Historical References. Never the Necessary, Moral, and Ethical attack against using this Evil Symbol as an Avatar.


    Is there someone that has or is currently using the swastika as an avatar?
    Keep in mind, I have some people on ignore. Not only do I not see their posts, I do not see their avatars nor their signatures.
    Is there someone using a screen name and picture (not a swastika) of the same person as in the screen name that can be viewed as offensive? Yes. Have I argued against that poster, publicly and privately? Yes, some. Have I argued against the person's avatar? No. I have, however, raised the issue, more generally, in another thread.
    1140) Message boards : Politics : LOCK (Message 1850539)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well said, MK.
    1141) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850531)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While you were contributing to the non-intellectual discussion last Friday, I made my concerns about certain related issues known to the mods. I'm sorry not sorry that you believe everything about a topic must be discussed all at once AND must be done within your view.

    Sarge...

    Guessing we disagree which Poster's contribute to a "non-intellectual" discussion. As happens in most Threads.

    BTW: Attacking the 'Right of Response'. And not the Original Post. Is interesting.


    I took my concerns about one of the other posters in that non-intellectual discussion to the mods. To name that poster here, I'm sure, would be called a flame. Frankly, I'm surprised that poster wasn't offered a vacation.

    Original post? Already addressed.

    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80480&postid=1850418

    NAZIs SUCK! The Holocaust was HORRIBLE! Is that clear enough for you? It wasn't evident to you? WOW!


    I won't go round and round on this with you.
    I'm not going to search my post history here or other places I discuss things with people for further evidence. But you will never ever find me in support of that regime.
    1142) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850527)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will not tolerate my words being twisted because every single post I write has not addressed every single issue pertaining to a topic. <--- Official Notice.

    Sarge...

    #1 - Where is your post attacking anyone using a Modern Day Symbol of Hate?

    Answer: No where. Why not?

    #2 - Thank you for confirming my description of those on the Right and Left - They believe they have a 'Right to Control'.

    I used to believe better of you. Oh well.


    While you were contributing to the non-intellectual discussion last Friday, I made my concerns about certain related issues known to the mods. I'm sorry not sorry that you believe everything about a topic must be discussed all at once AND must be done within your view.
    1143) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850524)
    Posted 22 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Turns out Trump was right about "last night in Sweden."
    It must annoy the liberals and the press to find out how often Trump is correct.
    There are "no-go" zones in Paris and now there are "no-go" zones in Stockholm.
    We don't want any "no-go" zones in the USA.
    The violence from the left/democrat/socialist/marxist/communists must stop or they'll soon start getting violence back as a response.

    Trump is correct? Give me a break:)
    There are NO "no-go" zones in Sweden!
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/world/europe/stockholm-sweden-riots-trump.html
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html
    6 things that are completly wrong!
    1 "There has been an absolute increase in gun violence and rape after Sweden's borders were opened."
    According to the National Crime Prevention Council's national security investigation exposed more than 13 percent of the population of the so-called "crimes against the individual" in 2015. This is an increase over the previous year, but about the same level as in 2005. A good report from 2015 shows that deadly violence decreases over time in Sweden. The number of reported abuse cases was 85,100 in 2015, an increase of two percent compared with 2014. In the same year 5920 reported rapes, a reduction of twelve percent from the year before. The police have created a special code to cases in which migrants are involved. Thomas Wallberg, national commanding chief of the National Police Operations Department, has indicated to the Daily News that refugees only involved in a few of police intervention in Sweden.
    2 "Refugees are behind the increase in crime, but it blinds authorities".
    There is no statistical evidence that can coat these claims. National Council makes no regular surveys of the ethnicity of people convicted of crimes. There is, however, a 2005 study that showed that the proportion who were suspected of a crime was slightly higher among foreign-born than among people born in Sweden. According to the liberal facts site migrationsinfo.se this depends above all on conditions linked to the homeland, lives in Sweden and discrimination in the justice system.
    3. "160 000 asylum seekers came to Sweden in 2016".
    Last year examined only about 30 000 people asylum in Sweden. The previous year was, however, the number of applications for asylum to nearly 163,000.
    4. "Only 500 of the asylum seekers who arrived in 2016 have jobs."
    According to the Immigration Service received only 494 of the refugees who came to Sweden in 2015 work. It was partly because the authority has not prioritized the issue of employment when the power of migrants was most intense. How it looked last year is not known.
    5. "The applicants have one of the state's most generous subsidy programs in terms of financial support and help with housing and education."
    Applicants who do not have jobs or other assets can receive financial support. The daily allowance ranges 71-19 per day for adults. In one month, equal to the maximum 2201 crowns. The national standard for social assistance is almost 4 000 per month for a single adult. Furthermore Migration Board provides accommodation to asylum seekers, and children who are seeking asylum have the right to go to school. They are not subject to compulsory school attendance.
    6. "There are no go zones in disadvantaged suburbs that police did not go into because it's too dangerous."
    In February 2016 police released a report in which the most vulnerable residential areas in Sweden were listed. When it began the term "no go zones" to circulate. But it is not used in the report, and it is not true that the police do not venture into areas.


    Is it true or not that the community where the riot took place had riots occur before the refugees were brought in?
    1144) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850418)
    Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing was twisted by me regarding your dismissal of a Modern Day Symbol of Hate and Mass Murder. And your dismissal of the Pain of the Nazi Victims and their loved ones.

    That you and Sirius B engaged in an Intellectual Charade. By refusing to acknowledge The Victims of this Symbol.

    Says everything.


    Everything was twisted by you.
    Because someone on a message board did not write a dissertation for you (far from providing the solutions you once pushed Michel to provide) that covers every single aspect of a topic, you call it is a dismissal. THAT is DISGUSTING. You have ZERO evidence that I've dismissed the Holocaust and its horrors. You need a clear statement of something that should be evident??? NAZIs SUCK! The Holocaust was HORRIBLE! Is that clear enough for you? It wasn't evident to you? WOW!
    I will not tolerate my words being twisted because every single post I write has not addressed every single issue pertaining to a topic. <--- Official Notice.
    1145) Message boards : Politics : LOCK (Message 1850351)
    Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not expect this to go well. Nonetheless:

    Sarge and Sirius B...

    Since you believe this. I will always respond to any of your posts, this way.

    Sarge... (Who believes the Modern Day usage of the Nazi Swastika. After the Swastika was the symbol, under which the Nazi's murdered millions of people. Is neither evil nor hateful - Message 1850278)

    Sirius B... (Who believes the Modern Day usage of the Nazi Swastika. After the Swastika was the symbol, under which the Nazi's murdered millions of people. Is neither evil nor hateful - Message 1850275)

    Any problem repeating your belief?


    Since you have twisted his post and mine, I absolutely have an issue with you lying and then repeating a lie.


    To Sirius' post, I simply said "Fascinating. (Actually, I knew this.)"

    If there is good evidence that the symbol has NOT been around for millenia, symbolizing peace, etc. ... . Point it out. If there is evidence it HAS been around for millenia BUT always stood for something negative, point it out. If you agree the Nazi's appropriated a symbol and twisted it, say so. If you have a different take on the last, say so.

    Yadda, yadda, yadda.

    And, as you used to ask Michel, what is your solution? Once a symbol is associated with something negative, must it always remain negative? If so, how shall the mods and S@H admins respond to this issue? What is your solution?
    1146) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850338)
    Posted 21 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge and Sirius B...

    Since you believe this. I will always respond to any of your posts, this way.

    Sarge... (Who believes the Modern Day usage of the Nazi Swastika. After the Swastika was the symbol, under which the Nazi's murdered millions of people. Is neither evil nor hateful - Message 1850278)

    Sirius B... (Who believes the Modern Day usage of the Nazi Swastika. After the Swastika was the symbol, under which the Nazi's murdered millions of people. Is neither evil nor hateful - Message 1850275)

    Any problem repeating your belief?


    Since you have twisted his post and mine, I absolutely have an issue with you lying and then repeating a lie.
    1147) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1850287)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Usually reliable moles from inside the Trump crime syndicate, say that Trump at the Redneck rally in
    Orlando on Saturday Feb 18, will try to get his Redneck supporters into marching on Washington.

    Their goal is to scare the progressives, much like the brown shirt SA (Sturmabteilung), did in Germany during the 1920s-1940s.
    They plan to occupy the U.S congress, and from what I hear, try to make a repeat event of the infamous Reichstag fire in Berlin on
    27 February 1933. The Trump criminal will try to blame the liberals and progressives for the fire, and the violence.

    WG56L798X (NSA6h995/CIA66H8)
    EOM/EOF


    They could already have reached D.C. by now. So ... ?
    1148) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850281)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hich leads me on to the question. Do you think that the "Tea Party" are Republicans?

    WinterKnight...

    In the American Political System - Winner take all - yes they are.

    Our two Major Political Party's are Coalitions. Unlike your Political System. Where The Government may be a Coalition of Different Party's.

    American Political History 101:

    FDR's 'New Deal' Democrat Party. Included a Coalition of KKK, Blacks, Marxists, Liberals, Unions, Capitalists, etc.

    Yes, as shown by "Socialist Sanders' in the Democrat Primaries. There being no viable alternative. Socialists are usually Registered Democrats.


    Which is why the hostile take over from the corporate Dems is under way.

    The Democrats, are on their way, especially in two years, to becoming irrelevant as a National Political Party.

    Nothing new in American history. That a Major Political Party either collapses, or forms a New Coalition. Retaining the same name. But not the same ideology.

    The future will be interesting.


    In this case, a member of the coalition is going to erupt from the belly like in the Aliens movie and put it on a different course,


    Since in many ways the Democratic Part is the Lite version of the Republican Party.
    1149) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850280)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hich leads me on to the question. Do you think that the "Tea Party" are Republicans?

    WinterKnight...

    In the American Political System - Winner take all - yes they are.

    Our two Major Political Party's are Coalitions. Unlike your Political System. Where The Government may be a Coalition of Different Party's.

    American Political History 101:

    FDR's 'New Deal' Democrat Party. Included a Coalition of KKK, Blacks, Marxists, Liberals, Unions, Capitalists, etc.

    Yes, as shown by "Socialist Sanders' in the Democrat Primaries. There being no viable alternative. Socialists are usually Registered Democrats.


    Which is why the hostile take over from the corporate Dems is under way.

    The Democrats, are on their way, especially in two years, to becoming irrelevant as a National Political Party.

    Nothing new in American history. That a Major Political Party either collapses, or forms a New Coalition. Retaining the same name. But not the same ideology.

    The future will be interesting.


    In this case, a member of the coalition is going to erupt from the belly like in the Aliens movie and put it on a different course,
    1150) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1850278)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Clyde, after all that furore over an avatar, what would your answer to this be?

    Crazy Yank spends $243,000 on an old phone

    Who cares?

    Posting, as a positive, a Swastika Avatar. Is OK with you?

    Oh absolutely!

    You see I do know history. It was originally an ancient Indian symbol that got hijacked by Nazi's.

    As a history professor, you should have known that :-)


    Fascinating. (Actually, I knew that.)
    1151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1850276)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AAAAnnnd, he'll get it sooner.
    1152) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850273)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hich leads me on to the question. Do you think that the "Tea Party" are Republicans?

    WinterKnight...

    In the American Political System - Winner take all - yes they are.

    Our two Major Political Party's are Coalitions. Unlike your Political System. Where The Government may be a Coalition of Different Party's.

    American Political History 101:

    FDR's 'New Deal' Democrat Party. Included a Coalition of KKK, Blacks, Marxists, Liberals, Unions, Capitalists, etc.

    Yes, as shown by "Socialist Sanders' in the Democrat Primaries. There being no viable alternative. Socialists are usually Registered Democrats.


    Which is why the hostile take over from the corporate Dems is under way.
    1153) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850272)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once again: COMMUNISM is implemented with a strong government.

    Sarge and your point is?


    That Guy is parroting Beck and Palin and has and will say next "Communism leads to socialism!"
    1154) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850249)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    betreger, socialism is implemented with a strong government, they are symbiotic; they depend on each other.

    Guy there is a range of of countries varying from North Korea to Sweden. You see the world in black and white and ignore all shades of gray.


    Once again: COMMUNISM is implemented with a strong government.
    1155) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850189)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *A question mark after such a statement does not make it a question.


    Why not. It did for me, I understood straight away that it was a question not a statement.

    Perhaps formed in a way to make it look like a statement, but in the end still a question.

    Different people express themselves in different ways, and definitely on these forums with many different nationalities and personalities involved comprehension can often be a problem.


    ?

    !!!
    1156) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1850183)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, if you noticed, I am not getting sucked in by any of the windbagging around here trying to diminish the man.

    Problem in diminishing Trump.
    His attackers are doing a very good job in diminishing themselves.
    Why don't they understand this?

    Why do you think they got the nickname of 'Snowflakes'?

    kittyman...

    You do understand I believe Trump is probably very dangerous.

    We just agree regarding The Left.

    OK, distance yourself from me if you need to.

    No 'distance' needed. You are not a Freedom Destroying Left/Right Wing.

    We just disagree about this matter.


    Disagree.
    Evidence? Years of his posts. One recently telling foreigners to f'ing butt out of a conversation; i.e., anti-free speech

    The Foundation of both Left and Right Ideology are dangerous. As is Non Right/Left Trump.

    The danger of one. Does not negate the danger of another.

    [/list]


    Agree. You responded to a dangerous one.
    1157) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1850121)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Referring to "new immigrants feeling a sense of entitlement that earlier immigrants did not":

    Watch "Galactica 1980: 'Space Croppers'". G80 was a terrible continuation of the original BSG (which had about 1/3 good episodes as it was). But, one could see/hear that same b.s. line of "entitlement" in that show. Of course, the Colonials from the other 12 Tribes were more enlightened.
    1158) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1850118)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, if you noticed, I am not getting sucked in by any of the windbagging around here trying to diminish the man.

    Problem in diminishing Trump.
    His attackers are doing a very good job in diminishing themselves.
    Why don't they understand this?

    Why do you think they got the nickname of 'Snowflakes'?

    kittyman...

    You do understand I believe Trump is probably very dangerous.

    We just agree regarding The Left.

    OK, distance yourself from me if you need to.

    No 'distance' needed. You are not a Freedom Destroying Left/Right Wing.

    We just disagree about this matter.


    Disagree.
    Evidence? Years of his posts. One recently telling foreigners to f'ing butt out of a conversation; i.e., anti-free speech
    1159) Message boards : Politics : "Don't believe the main stream (fake news) media..." -D.J.T. (Message 1850065)
    Posted 20 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Which is where Trump failed yesterday. He watched a program where Ami Horowitz made numerous false assertions about Sweden (not for the first time), which Trump tried to say was an actual incident on Friday.

    So, he was in error. What president has not been? Or what human being for that matter.
    Get over it.


    Oh Trump of Earth and altar,
    bow down and hear our cry.
    Our Earthly rulers falter.
    Our people drift and die.
    Tump's gilded walls entomb us, the swords of scorn divide;
    Take not thy thunder from us,
    but take away Trump's pride.
    1160) Message boards : Politics : "Don't believe the main stream (fake news) media..." -D.J.T. (Message 1850043)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Real problem is this:

    Anything associated with, or controlled by The Political and/or the Global Capitalist's, IE: Washington, Mega Capitalist News Media, ...

    Is, because of their failures to protect the American People. Being dismissed.

    It is not Trump, nor his allies who are turning The People against them. The People already believe this, and are just using Trump. As he is using them.


    Why do you believe that global capitalists and the news media are responsible for protecting the "American People"?


    The media does have the responsibility of keeping us informed, which in itself is a form of protection. And despite all the bogus complaints, one complaint is certainly valid: most mainstream media is under the control of six huge companies.
    1161) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1850023)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please suggest tweets.
    1162) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1850022)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a concession to the R's, the ACA did not implement this
    (single payer)

    COW FECES bobby, gary, ex!

    NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR THE ACA. IT BELONGS WHOLEY TO THE DEMOCRATS. (just another example of selective amnesia...)

    As a matter of fact, 4 or 5 democrat senators had to be BRIBED to get to the final 59 in the senate. (yes, they even had to push the limits of sanity to say a 60th voted for it)

    It's failing because the American people DON'T WANT IT. Only the dictators want it. The dictators already decide if you're allowed to be born or not. The dictators want to decide when you DIE.

    The democrats used to (edit: still do) refer to you supporters of single-payer (and other seizures of power) as "house negros." They just don't say it out loud these days, they use third-party encryption to hide it from you. Wake up! Quit taking the blue pills! Take a RED pill! Morpheus cannot explain it to you; you must SEE IT.


    providing a service is NOT a "seizure of power".

    And seriously, the ACA was designed after 'Romneycare'- a REPUBLICAN plan.


    Heritage Foundation.
    1163) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1849988)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Human Sin

    I thought atheists didn't believe in religion?

    No religion - no sin.


    When I announced my atheism to 2 local friends about 1.5 years ago, one engaged me in a long conversation. I do not know if he believes, but he argued that there are still things that could be called evil. Can there be a definition of evil acts without reference to religion?
    1164) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1849987)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.npr.org/2013/11/12/244772593/jfks-lasting-economic-legacy-lower-tax-rates

    Top income tax rate was lowered from 91% down to 70%. Budget deficits DID shrink. Unemployement fell to 3.8%. Stock prices doubled. Inflation remained stable. Good times.

    Just an Inconvenient Truth.

    MK...

    Do you believe in a Flat Income Tax?


    Not on-topic.

    Since MK's post regarding tax rates is apparently on-topic.

    So is my tax rate post question, responding to his post, on-topic.


    His original suggestion of a tweet to Trump is, as was Gary's.
    His latter was not.
    I chose not to tweet Trump regarding taxes, given the opposing views.
    I chose not to ask MK, at the time, to stick to topic because it was a single post. Now that there are two posts about it:

    As Trump appears to have a need to do "better" than others, this will in particular include better than 44, it is incumbent on US, the PEOPLE, to let him know WHAT we want him to do better on. It would also help if it were more than just me tweeting to him.
    1165) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849986)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's how it goes when your government is bought and paid for. The government works for the oligarchs, not the masses.


    But! But! Trump is draining the swamp?!?

    Sarge...

    Dangerous Trump is correct in his attempt.

    Problem: As with the necessary destruction of the Marxists in Germany in the '30s. It resulted in...

    Well... We know what.


    It is not an attempt.
    It is saying one thing while doing another.

    Sarge...

    100% correct. But for both sides.

    But of course we now see that politics has become polarised and any bill introduced by one party is 100% rejected by the other party.

    Noting the Democrat ACA.

    It's both sides.


    The PEOPLE who are not worshipping leaders or demonizing them are our hope.
    1166) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849976)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's how it goes when your government is bought and paid for. The government works for the oligarchs, not the masses.


    But! But! Trump is draining the swamp?!?

    Sarge...

    Dangerous Trump is correct in his attempt.

    Problem: As with the necessary destruction of the Marxists in Germany in the '30s. It resulted in...

    Well... We know what.


    It is not an attempt.
    It is saying one thing while doing another.
    1167) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849975)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You seem to conveniently forget the Obamacare is only an adaption of Romneycare introduced in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts when he was Governor. Who I am certain was the previous Republican nominee.

    So presumably the only reason Republicans don't like it is because a Republican didn't win and introduce in nationwide, allowing Obama to introduce it. Probably because he thought it was a reasonably idea and better than any plan he could think up and because it originally came from the Republicans they would not have too many objections to it.

    But of course we now see that politics has become polarised and any bill introduced by one party is 100% rejected by the other party.


    Goes back before Romney. Look it up in The Heritage Foundation's archives.
    1168) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1849974)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #lastnightinsweden ?
    1169) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1849973)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.npr.org/2013/11/12/244772593/jfks-lasting-economic-legacy-lower-tax-rates

    Top income tax rate was lowered from 91% down to 70%. Budget deficits DID shrink. Unemployement fell to 3.8%. Stock prices doubled. Inflation remained stable. Good times.

    Just an Inconvenient Truth.

    MK...

    Do you believe in a Flat Income Tax?


    Not on-topic.
    1170) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849907)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's how it goes when your government is bought and paid for. The government works for the oligarchs, not the masses.


    But! But! Trump is draining the swamp?!?
    1171) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1849901)
    Posted 19 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just tweeted to Trump again! @realDonaldTrump 44 @POTUS 44 (@POTUS44) vacationed too much! You can one-up by vacationing less than him! #ugotthisbro
    1172) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1849783)
    Posted 18 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This was a Conway-type.

    Sarge... Love your reference.

    Not the other silly, false, and more importantly, uninteresting responses


    Wish you hadn't done it.
    1173) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1849733)
    Posted 18 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This was a Conway-type.
    1174) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849478)
    Posted 18 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the New Testament probably wasn't written before the end of the first century, and there is no real indication that the followers of Jesus were considered separate until the Romans threw out all the jews from Jerusalem in 132CE.
    And the excuse that some give, that christians split when the stopped being circumcised probably doesn't hold water. They probably did it because Romans considered it barbaric and it was an easy way to identify jews and the followers of Jesus (both groups being the unwanted immigrants of their day) that were in the most part still following jewish customs.


    Then when did it start again?

    If you want a date that christianity is completely separate from the jewish religion, then probably not until Council of Lodicea, 434 CE, that's the last date I found where christians were finally banned from worshiping in synagogues.


    No. Circumcision of Christian males.
    1175) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849438)
    Posted 18 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the New Testament probably wasn't written before the end of the first century, and there is no real indication that the followers of Jesus were considered separate until the Romans threw out all the jews from Jerusalem in 132CE.
    And the excuse that some give, that christians split when the stopped being circumcised probably doesn't hold water. They probably did it because Romans considered it barbaric and it was an easy way to identify jews and the followers of Jesus (both groups being the unwanted immigrants of their day) that were in the most part still following jewish customs.


    Then when did it start again?
    1176) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849418)
    Posted 18 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RE: The Thaw - Attempting to Create an American Theocracy

    An American Theocracy?
    It's definitely more of that in US than in the European Theocracy.
    Rather strange.
    Whatever.
    How much of a religious guy are The Donald?
    Hmmm......


    It's likely Pence wishes to be a Theocrat, See him talk about evolution vs. creationism.
    Trump is likely acting as if he's Christian these days, to serve Pence and a good fraction of those that voted for him.
    Look up the video clip from the 1st week or so where Trump attended church with Pence. See the discomfort Pence tries to hide?
    1177) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849410)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela has the cajones to actually quote my post and then delete it with her mod button.
    I do declare, this is the first time ever I have witnessed such arrogance.

    Wow.


    An oversight. My apologies. I have hidden my post that quoted your post.


    This and the previous? Great responses! May I say, you did miss one thing. God was not removed from the schools. Kids can pray before a test if they wish. etc. ... . Teachers/administrators, however, may not lead them in such activities. So. Mark, when you go back to school, feel free to pray to your Allah before final exams.


    RE: The Thaw - Attempting to Create an American Theocracy
    1178) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849409)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela has the cajones to actually quote my post and then delete it with her mod button.
    I do declare, this is the first time ever I have witnessed such arrogance.

    Wow.


    An oversight. My apologies. I have hidden my post that quoted your post.


    This and the previous? Great responses! May I say, you did miss one thing. God was not removed from the schools. Kids can pray before a test if they wish. etc. ... . Teachers/administrators, however, may not lead them in such activities. So. Mark, when you go back to school, feel free to pray to your Allah before final exams.


    I will also say: I know of avid gun owners that supported BERNIE. So, um, no. WE didn't create YOU. Get over it.
    1179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Richard Hatch dies Feb. 7 2017 (Message 1849389)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R.I.P.

    He now resides in that Battlestar in the sky with Lorne Greene.

    God bless his family.


    TL


    And John Colicos.
    :(
    1180) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849383)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela has the cajones to actually quote my post and then delete it with her mod button.
    I do declare, this is the first time ever I have witnessed such arrogance.

    Wow.


    An oversight. My apologies. I have hidden my post that quoted your post.


    This and the previous? Great responses! May I say, you did miss one thing. God was not removed from the schools. Kids can pray before a test if they wish. etc. ... . Teachers/administrators, however, may not lead them in such activities. So. Mark, when you go back to school, feel free to pray to your Allah before final exams.
    1181) Message boards : Politics : Totally FAUX news (Message 1849379)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    True or False??


    Fox News Settled Sexual Harassment Allegations Against Bill O’Reilly, Documents Show



    In the weeks after Roger Ailes was ousted as the chairman of Fox News in July amid a sexual harassment scandal, company executives secretly struck an agreement with a longtime broadcast personality who had come forward with similar accusations about the network’s top host, Bill O’Reilly.


    Heard of this earlier than 1/10/17, I am sure. By a few months, I am fairly sure.
    1182) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849310)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Snowflake Trump needs a safe space from the media. Asked a question about rising anti-Semitism in the USA, makes it about himself and his in-laws.

    What do you expect of narcissism? No one else matters.


    The very definition of snowflake.
    1183) Message boards : Politics : Whispers in the corridors of the U.S Congress...Impeachment is coming soon. (Message 1849307)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #diagnosetrump
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38991171
    But now, some professionals have spoken out, including those who have signed a petition asking for Mr Trump's removal. It has now gathered more than 23,000 signatures.

    23,000 "professionals"?
    How can they tell and even give a diagnose?
    Nobody of them have met Trump.
    OK. He's acting crazy but mentally ill?
    Give me a break.


    Given his high profile over decades, is it not possible some of them have met him?
    Furthermore, diagnoses can occur via observation. Still, it would be better to bolster observation via interview.

    [Edit]It is worth wondering about the credentials of some.[/Edit]
    1184) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849219)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the tax bill next year, and for the next 'x' years will be at least 2 FREE BRAND NEW CARS.

    There will be no tax bills, this will be paid for by inflation, as we have paid for all our wars since Korea.


    And Obama got us into 5 more interventions. Donald JOHN Trump will continue those and add more. He'll borrow from China while we intervene in China!
    1185) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1849216)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about a random "Overthrow General Tso" before back to the reverse psychology?
    1186) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1849215)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ***And paying taxes... I just gave the federal government their ANNUAL FREE BRAND NEW CAR! <golf clap>

    Better start cutting down on your spending, that payment for last year. If the present rate that Trump is digging into the coffers, the tax bill next year, and for the next 'x' years will be at least 2 FREE BRAND NEW CARS.

    Obama $1 million/month
    Trump estimated $50 Million/month min.


    He doesn't care how we here are doing, let alone the USA in general. And he wants us to play a sad tune on a violin for him and cry??? What a special little snowflake!
    1187) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1849214)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I seem to recall seeing ROTFLMAO and Kruschkev, but forgot to type them ... ?
    1188) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849213)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Snowflake Trump needs a safe space from the media. Asked a question about rising anti-Semitism in the USA, makes it about himself and his in-laws.
    1189) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849212)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    1190) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1849192)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your claim that the
    9th Circuit has a record of 80% rulings overturned by SCOTUS
    is demonstrably false.

    Snopes presents data between 1998 and 2008 and PunditFact presents more recent data that effectively debunk this misleading claim.

    From YOUR source Pundit Facts more recent data:

    "Among cases it reviewed from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, it reversed about 79 percent.

    The 9th Circuit’s reversal rate is higher than average, but it’s not the absolute highest among the circuit courts. That distinction goes to the 6th Circuit, which serves Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee, with an 87 percent average between 2010-15. The 9th Circuit is in third place."

    So I missed it by ONE percentage point.............the point being if you fail at 79% of your judgements you need to be replaced. I vote to remove all judges from the bench at each election for one reason. Familiarity breeds contempt. Judges like everybody else need to be reminded they too are mortal and fallible, and foremost they are not paid to be Legislators.

    This is just a case of "Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics".

    It depends on how you calculate the claimed numbers.
    SCOTUS only deals with about 64 cases per year.
    The 9th deals with the highest number of cases per year.
    It is therefore logical that there could be more cases in the 9th that could/should be reviewed by SCOTUS, but only a few are. These tend to be the cases where the lawyers believe there is a very good chance of a reversal by SCOTUS, the remaining cases which if they were from other districts would probably get that far don't.
    So the figures show that there is a very good chance that cases from the 9th that SCOTUS reviews will be reversed. So the number of cases reversed by that accounting method will always be very high. But as a percentage of all cases presented to the 9th in is very, very small.

    edit] If all the cases brought before SCOTUS came from the 9th, and they were all reversed (100%).
    Then that would still be <0.6% of the total of cases brought before the 9th in the last 10 years.

    edit2] You could say that the 9th is doing a wonderful job because less than 0.1% brought in that district have been reversed by SCOTUS in the last 10 years.


    WK, do a mic drop. BOOM!
    1191) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1849191)
    Posted 17 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ask
    him
    b*mb
    Trump
    Clinton
    K*ll
    Hate
    Reagan?
    1192) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1849125)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did you read Guy's post.

    A majority of American's are sick of this. This is why Donald Trump was elected.

    Trump, the Republican Senate and House, majority of State Governor's and Legislative's. Are just a reaction to the The Left and Progressives.

    Who spew their hate and intollerance against the Majority of White Women who voted for Trump, Whites in general, Men, Working Class, et al.


    Agree Ex...

    Captain Picard would have also responded to your beliefs, as I do.

    I, and Captain Picard understand those "Who spew their hate and intollerance against the Majority of White Women who voted for Trump, Whites in general, Men, Working Class, et al.".

    Unlike the Left and Progressives. Captain Picard is a person of Tolerance, Ethics and Morality.



    I think he may be suggesting you are anti-white, anti-working class, Ex.
    1193) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1849096)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just posted:

    @realDonaldTrump @POTUS 44 (@POTUS44) promised less foreign interventions, You can succeed where he failed!!!
    1194) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1849045)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Mmm, no ... . Those were the "sins" of the Corporatist Democrats, You don't think those are the Progressives. Bernie would be closer. Those were not his sins, were they?

    Sarge...

    Since I was not replying to a "Corporatist Democrats". I didn't include them.[quote]

    Poster or people off these boards? Because I think you were replying to the country-at-large and Corp Dems.
    1195) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1849044)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Partisan HACK opens another thread.

    Exactly what is the difference between a partisan Left and Right Wing hack opening another thread?

    Answer: Nothing

    Therefore Sarge: Why limit your attack against a Hack of one side, and not the other?


    I already pressed Tut for evidence.

    Mic drop.


    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80976&postid=1846641
    1196) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1849039)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Partisan HACK opens another thread.

    Exactly what is the difference between a partisan Left and Right Wing hack opening another thread?

    Answer: Nothing

    Therefore Sarge: Why limit your attack against a Hack of one side, and not the other?


    I already pressed Tut for evidence.

    Mic drop.
    1197) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848971)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will only enable Trump.

    Are the Anti Trump really that stupid?


    Yes, yes CLYDE, we know that according to your view everything anybody does aids "45". Thus far you have only criticized "45"s opponents, and not advocated any alternative strategy. You are the back seat driver that only ever says "we're going the wrong way" and never helping find the right way., more annoying that the child that says "are we nearly there yet?"

    Please try to find something else to say.

    Again bobby. The foundation of your posts are incorrect.

    Solution to The Left and Dims psychosis regarding Trump?

    How about giving positive solutions to our problems. Not just Anti Trump.

    Of course, you cannot comprehend that The Left, Dims and the Media are held in greater contempt than Trump.

    Solution: The Dims must disavow, the dangerous to our freedoms, Left. And positively engage Males, Whites, the Working Class, and the Majority of White Females who voted for Trump.

    Unfortunately. The Left and Progressives hateful belief regarding those not them. Make this very unlikely.

    Or to put it more distinctly. The Left must go, before we can Intelligently discuss any solutions to our problems.


    Mmm, no ... . Those were the "sins" of the Corporatist Democrats, You don't think those are the Progressives. Bernie would be closer. Those were not his sins, were they?
    1198) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848966)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess THIS is the discussion about mental illness Wayne LaPierre called for?
    1199) Message boards : Politics : 44 GOING TO JAIL CONmutiny DESTRUCTIONizer to Have Teachable 'Moments' fO a 'CAPTIVE' Audience (Message 1848965)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Partisan HACK opens another thread.
    1200) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848932)
    Posted 16 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When FBI Director James B. Comey announced less than two weeks before the election date that they were looking at a laptop which might have copies of files from Clinton's server on it, why didn't he mention the ongoing investigation into Trump and his friends links with the Russians?


    He figured this mess would be more "fun"?
    1201) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848809)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People get harsh penalties for lying, in this case to the Vice President, if he had admitted his error he would probably had got a talking to, in a private room and still have a job.

    WinterKnight...

    100% correct.

    Lying to the VP is inexcusable.


    INEXCUSABLE, Guy!!!
    1202) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1848801)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1203) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1848790)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All look good.
    1204) Message boards : Politics : Hope and change...................... (Message 1848742)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, 1 gator, leaving the swamp so soon! Wassup wit dat?
    1205) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848740)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yap, we don't want no hacks. Yap!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
    1206) Message boards : Politics : Goad (Message 1848738)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "@realdonaldtrump @barackobama didn't have the guts to ___. You're a winner, you can do it!"

    Fill in the blank with something Obama didn't do that we can goad Trump into.

    I'll tweet it to him.

    (We could act like Obama didn't release his taxes and trick him into supposedly one-upping Obama!)
    1207) Message boards : Politics : Horde (Message 1848735)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A horde of wacky hackys smoking wacky tobacky while enjoying A.G. Sessions war on drugs attacky.
    1208) Message boards : Politics : Horde (Message 1848734)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    they are at it again https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80891&postid=1848716
    horde of goons

    Just change one letter for real a racist statement.
    who wants to tell us which letter?

    OMG!


    Bored of a horde of hacky goons?
    1209) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848732)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HACKS NEED TO GO AWAY!!!
    1210) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848731)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've never defended Hilary's actions- I would rather have voted for the other guy (Bernie).

    Who's being deliberately blind to flagrant infractions of laws designed to protect national security now?

    Justice is not a game. Many of our leaders have been put through hell over lesser offenses, like ol' Bill getting a 'Lewinsky'- which is nothing compared to compromising national security.

    As long as it's not whom? Don't do bad stuff, no problem. Do bad stuff- you *should* have a bad time.

    What will you say when Trump is found to also be vulnerable to blackmail?

    Yes, let's move on to the next guy NOW. Maybe Priebus or Bannon can be ousted?

    The *OLIGARCH* created swamp is alive and well, and this is a BIPARTISAN issue!


    [edit] And do you really want to start a debate on what constitutes a police state? Because I can argue all day why the Trump administration's policies and actions are wholly supporting and even encouraging a harsh police state- like trying to hire 10,000 'immigration officers' to go through our inner cities and... I'll stop now before we get to the heart of our political differences.


    He's a partisan HACK!
    HACKs are DESTROYING this country!
    HACKs need to sign off this message board and never come back!!!
    1211) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848676)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #diagnosetrump
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/mental-health-professionals-warn-about-trump.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    And then Pence. :(

    Horror!


    Yes.
    1212) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848674)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]What Flynn did is nothing compared to what ted kennedy did to Ronald Reagan (russia) and nancy pelosi did to Bush 43 (Iran).

    For purely political reasons, this time it's an issue. The dishonest press is steaming ahead full blast. The dimocrats would rather destroy this country than not be in power.


    Horse pucky. Wrong is wrong, you partisan HACK!
    1213) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1848670)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michael Flynn, did Trump know about his conversation with the Russian ambassador and if so when? At least one of them committed treason.
    Flynn is taking the fall but it looks like Donald very well knew and encouraged it. Totally amazing but it is consistent with Trumps history of ethical behavior.
    The country wanted change and boy it sure is getting it.

    Please Mr. 'President', I can't take all of this winning. Please stop!


    +1
    1214) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848668)
    Posted 15 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #diagnosetrump
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/mental-health-professionals-warn-about-trump.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article


    And then Pence. :(
    1215) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1848589)
    Posted 14 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MK, am curious, how did you decide on the moniker "Trumphole"?
    1216) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1848581)
    Posted 14 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *Thinking* "I hate ________" is the same as "believing" "I hate ________." Liberals have argued this.

    Thinking is not the same as believing. I can think of invisible purple unicorns, though that does not mean I believe that such creatures exist. I guess that means I'm not what you would consider a "Liberal".


    The beginnings of thought crime: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A27-28&version=NKJV

    27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[a] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[b] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    As anyone who reads understands this: The belief in Thought Crime. Is not solely confined to those who believe in a Deity.

    Note: I highly recommend Orwell's 1984. It should be required reading in our High Schools.

    CLYDE, as anyone who reads and comprehends understands, Sarge did not explicitly or implicitly suggest that thought crime was solely confined to those who believe in a deity, his comment was on the origins of thought crime. Thus your reference to Orwell is somewhat tangential.

    Back to Sarge, I suspect it's older than Matthew, "You shall have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3) might also be viewed a thought crime.


    Correct, I did not suggest that.
    On the other hand, I was tying it to both what you'd said and what Guy had said. I was also deliberately implying 1984.
    As for the other verse: wouldn't it need to be along the lines of "If you even think of another god, yer gonna burn in hell"?
    1217) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848541)
    Posted 13 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bought some shoes. Ohhh, myyy ... I look *fabulous* in Ivanka!


    1218) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1848513)
    Posted 13 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note: I highly recommend Orwell's 1984. It should be required reading in our High Schools.


    I read it by my own CHOICE at age 23.5 yrs., while finishing my Master's, one hour east of Twain's Octagon.

    It was in the California school system. Maybe that is why the state is blue?


    The state I grew up in was blue as well.
    I believe I was supposed to read "Animal Farm" senior year, but I was "out of it" for the last 1/2 of junior year and first 1/2 of senior year (without any substances).
    1219) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1848457)
    Posted 13 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *Thinking* "I hate ________" is the same as "believing" "I hate ________." Liberals have argued this.

    Thinking is not the same as believing. I can think of invisible purple unicorns, though that does not mean I believe that such creatures exist. I guess that means I'm not what you would consider a "Liberal".


    The beginnings of thought crime: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A27-28&version=NKJV

    27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[a] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[b] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    As anyone who reads understands this: The belief in Thought Crime. Is not solely confined to those who believe in a Deity.

    Note: I highly recommend Orwell's 1984. It should be required reading in our High Schools.


    I read it by my own CHOICE at age 23.5 yrs., while finishing my Master's, one hour east of Twain's Octagon.
    1220) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848456)
    Posted 13 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bought some shoes. Ohhh, myyy ... I look *fabulous* in Ivanka!
    1221) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848423)
    Posted 13 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge shame on you, it is a fact that public education is a wasted profit opportunity for the oligarchy.


    Seems the Oligarchy is willing to shoot itself in the foot.
    1222) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1848410)
    Posted 12 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hearbys apologises fer my beeing aginst Bitsy DuVos. Sawry!!!
    1223) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1848383)
    Posted 12 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *Thinking* "I hate ________" is the same as "believing" "I hate ________." Liberals have argued this.

    Thinking is not the same as believing. I can think of invisible purple unicorns, though that does not mean I believe that such creatures exist. I guess that means I'm not what you would consider a "Liberal".


    The beginnings of thought crime: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A27-28&version=NKJV

    27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[a] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[b] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
    1224) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1848155)
    Posted 12 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the intent was to ban Muslims why are only 17% of them covered by it? Why is it only countries Obama identified as terror risks? He must be a bigot too.


    17% of all Muslims anywhere or 17% of Muslims that would try to come to the U.S.A.?
    1225) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847990)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nasty hobbitses, screaming about nasty sign wavers.
    GOLLUM
    GOLLUM!
    1226) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847989)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Run dNc?
    1227) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847948)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Snowflakes gonna keep landing on big Don until all the orange die washes off him.


    SnowGate?
    1228) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1847947)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They hold grudges. At least 7 years.

    It is 10 years for a bankruptcy now.


    That is extremely biased against rednecks! Stop feeling superior to them! It is the hillbillies we should feel superior to!

    And Redneck hillbillies ?????


    Not possible!
    That's like mixing rap and metal. They don't mix. Will never happen.
    1229) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1847928)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They hold grudges. At least 7 years.

    It is 10 years for a bankruptcy now.


    That is extremely biased against rednecks! Stop feeling superior to them! It is the hillbillies we should feel superior to!
    1230) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847919)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Snowflakes are complaining to President Trump "We're winning too much! This is too much winning in 3 weeks. Please slow down!"
    1231) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847918)
    Posted 11 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WP - Trump administration won’t appeal ruling against immigration order to the Supreme Court, says senior White House official

    The Trump administration can wage a legal battle in the lower courts to address more squarely whether the president's immigration directive violates the Constitution. The White House is also mulling whether to rewrite the executive order. No matter what, the administration faces a difficult fight to restore the ban.

    This is a developing story. It will be updated.


    :President Trump, I'm sooo tired of winning already!"
    1232) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1847881)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hehe, the criminal in chief, will soon speak live from MacDill Air Force Base in Florida.
    What stoopid things will come out of his mouth this time?
    Oh my, what a moron the Rednecks has elected.

    The "Rednecks"?
    Silly, or worse "Communist". Your Ideology has resulted in more Mass Murdering and Enslavement, in the past 100 years, than any "Redneck".

    It's sad when a redneck calls a fellow redneck a city boy.

    It's true. Truly sad.


    They hold grudges. At least 7 years.
    1233) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847880)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know how simple this is to me, Guy - Trump and all his evil minions can't prove this order is necessary, so the hold on the order remains in place.


    It's just a matter of time before someone from one of those countries, entering right now, kills someone here in the U.S. in the name of allah. And that senseless murder will be plainly, clearly and totally on Judge Robart.

    Bad things can and do happen. That said I am not aware of many incidents of domestic terrorism that involved illegal immigrants from any countries on The Listâ„¢.

    I'm not so sure why you wan't overbearing government control on some issues, but when it comes to offering social programs to the people you want no control. Pick one.


    Christian Dominionist terrorism doesn't even need guns or anything of the like!
    1234) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1847842)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hehe, the criminal in chief, will soon speak live from MacDill Air Force Base in Florida.

    What stoopid things will come out of his mouth this time?

    Oh my, what a moron the Rednecks has elected.

    The "Rednecks"?

    Silly, or worse "Communist". Your Ideology has resulted in more Mass Murdering and Enslavement, in the past 100 years, than any "Redneck".


    It's sad when a redneck calls a fellow redneck a city boy.
    1235) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847839)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Neoliberal = Corporatist (Rep/Dem).
    1236) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847837)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It marks them as colored, seldom wakes them up, and relieves us who really control world events.

    Mark, methinks more like a puppet of the oligarchs, open your mind and see how you are being manipulated.


    Imma so in control, I needsta control less and burn thru some dem brain clls tonite! Mebbe I'll use "Fireball" ta dues it?
    1237) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847826)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the decision was unanimous, please explain how it can be "Liberal insanity" when one of the judges, Judge Richard R. Clifton, was appointed by President George W. Bush.


    Well, to use the word 'Liberal' the way most of you around here use it, Dubya was a VERY liberal President.

    Evidence for this statement includes (but not limited to):

    1. NCLB (No Child Left Behind).
    2. Medicare Part D.

    The first was a massive Federal power-grab into what has traditionally been under the control of State and Local Governments. The second was a classic example of modern tax-and-spend liberalism.


    Dubya a Conservative (or a Libertarian)? Pull the other one.


    Nope.
    Corporatist Republican.
    1238) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1847655)
    Posted 10 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ivanka's brand tanking. Sad. Very sad, And WTF is "Nordstrom's" anyway?!?
    1239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A thing you shoud hear. (Message 1847391)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you ever heard the saying Mark

    Respect is hard earned and easily lost ????

    Might be worth thinking about it , while you sit there with your bottle :-) !!


    I'll have what he's having! ;)
    1240) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1847359)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is wrong to assume that ALL of them would like a job. It is ALSO wrong to assume that NONE of them would like a job.
    1241) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847325)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I don't even wait. I don't even read 'em. I just reach in and grab the pen by the middle and I sign 'em. I sign what Stevie hands me. And they LOVE it!" Sad. Very sad,
    1242) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847322)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I went to sign up for TKMSA (Trump Keeps Me Safe Act) at http://travel.ban.gov/enroll and the SITE DID NOT WORK! Roll out, a TOTAL disaster. Page created by Canadian Mexican programmers. Sad. Very sad.

    It is a disgrace that the full website is still not in place, the longest such delay in the history of our country. Obstruction by Democrats!


    Sad. Very sad.
    1243) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847260)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I went to sign up for TKMSA (Trump Keeps Me Safe Act) at http://travel.ban.gov/enroll and the SITE DID NOT WORK! Roll out, a TOTAL disaster. Page created by Canadian Mexican programmers. Sad. Very sad.
    1244) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1847258)
    Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As far as silly-con valley... Most of its stuff is made in Asia (and 'stolen').

    Apparently some don't understand where and how software is made. While hardware may be manufactured overseas, hardware sales is not how the valley makes it's money. That's why Sun sued Microsoft and Oracle sued Google over Java implementations, because software matters.

    Oh, and on the hardware front, the ARM processor that's in the majority of cell phones is the result of a UK development.


    Software/hardware difference misunderstanding doubleplusungood?
    1245) Message boards : Politics : Fake News sites. ("Alternative Facts") :-) (Message 1847152)
    Posted 7 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Reasonable ponits on both sides, but ... .

    MK, MSM ignored Hillary's bad? WHAT?!? What about the "story" that Clinton exploded at her staff after the "Commander in Chief Forum"?!? Couldn't even be a story (real or fake) if Lauer hadn't asked her certain "tough" questions.

    We could probably dig some more and find Trump's "good points" being shared. And he got a lot of air time via his call ins.



    There is no denying that the MSM ignored Clinton's bad and Trump's good.


    I just provided evidence to the contrary.
    1246) Message boards : Politics : Fake News sites. ("Alternative Facts") :-) (Message 1847132)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Reasonable ponits on both sides, but ... .

    MK, MSM ignored Hillary's bad? WHAT?!? What about the "story" that Clinton exploded at her staff after the "Commander in Chief Forum"?!? Couldn't even be a story (real or fake) if Lauer hadn't asked her certain "tough" questions.

    We could probably dig some more and find Trump's "good points" being shared. And he got a lot of air time via his call ins.
    1247) Message boards : Politics : Fake News sites. ("Alternative Facts") :-) (Message 1847115)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MK, do you have a rational response to Ozz, or a rationalization?

    P.S.-I hope A.R. kicks some butt running for the Texas State Senate.


    By "A.R.", are you talking about A.R. Schwartz?


    Nope.
    Science educator.
    Famous on the innerwebs these last 7 to 9 years.
    Am sure I.D. was pointed A.R.'s way a few years back.
    1248) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1847016)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Patriots Won:)
    In Trump We Trust.
    Donald Trump Says "Tremendous"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFz3Y3Zyt8o


    Is that a fake youtube link? 'Cuz I don't trust Trump when he uses more than two syllables.
    1249) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1847014)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sports ain't nuttin but yap'n.
    Besides, the will of The People was ignored last night.
    More Establishment winning nonsense.
    1250) Message boards : Politics : Fake News sites. ("Alternative Facts") :-) (Message 1846937)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great "news"! Chocolate rations are going up from 20 to 25 grams per week!!!
    1251) Message boards : Politics : Fake News sites. ("Alternative Facts") :-) (Message 1846936)
    Posted 6 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MK, do you have a rational response to Ozz, or a rationalization?

    P.S.-I hope A.R. kicks some butt running for the Texas State Senate.
    1252) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846892)
    Posted 5 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stretching for dA yaPs nOw, eH?
    1253) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846773)
    Posted 5 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why Regressives on the Left are responsible for the Trump Muslim Ban.
    1254) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846753)
    Posted 5 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Therefore, the still open question is this: Since 'The Left' must first be stopped and/or dismissed in order to 'clear the way' to stop Trump.

    How is this done with a Cheerleading Media and a Coerced Educational System?

    Your question is based on an assumption that you appear to believe is axiomatic. It's unclear why you believe "The Left" (whoever that may be) must first be stopped.


    "The Left" or "The Dangerous Left"? Is the Left dangerous or is it that there is a dangerous faction on the Left?
    1255) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846644)
    Posted 4 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You cited a personal story about how poorly treated you were by a bunch of liberal-minded people, so you now sit there as judge of any liberally minded person and attack them at any chance you get, thus making you no better than the people who attacked you.

    Must have missed that post!

    Find that hard to believe from a Nam vet who did 2 tours & then a police officer for 20 years.


    Couldn't tell you the post(s), but he has said it at least once.
    Still, enjoy great-grandfather-hood, Clyde.
    1256) Message boards : Politics : Whispers in the corridors of the U.S Congress...Impeachment is coming soon. (Message 1846641)
    Posted 4 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The whispers in the corridors of the U.S congress, is that more and more republicans are now
    leaning towards impeaching Trump as soon as possible. They say he's out of control, and probably clinically insane.

    Yeah well, what have I said the whole time?

    What does this tell about those (mostly redneck deplorables) who voted for an insane man? Are they clinically insane too, or just uneducated political analphabets?

    Run for the hills deplorables, your president is about to be thrown out of the WH.

    Bwahahaha.....


    Really? Not a single link to a non-fake news website? Just building false hopes? Have seen two videos from decent youtube pundits, but not enough to have real hope as yet, yet you're acting like it's pretty much a done deal with no substantiation.
    1257) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846422)
    Posted 4 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, let's watch as they implode due to Dear Leader's deception.
    1258) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846411)
    Posted 4 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    North America perhaps have some more interpretations.
    What a mess...

    Over here that is known as freedom [to impose] religion.

    As one looking for freedom from religion it does appear that way now.

    Did you see what I did there. I agreed with you.

    ;^)


    I suspected we had points of agreement.
    1259) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846348)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [For good or bad, the Republicans will probably gain more Senate Seats in two years.


    There is a hostile take-over of the Dems in the works and building, right now.

    Sarge...

    Just a Democrat suicide.

    Probably, as is normal throughout our History: After the self-destruction of a major political Party. The remaining major Party will control, for possibly a generation. Awaiting the necessary political realignment.

    Our 'Winner Takes All' (50.1%) political/constitution, demands two major political parties. Not a coalition of many different political parties.

    Sarge...

    Don't believe I wish the Republicans to have this control. If the above happens. It is the Democrat Party that is at fault.


    You mistook "hostile takeover" as meaning "take away their voters tp a third party", it seems.
    The leaders of the takeover know about the winner-takesw-all and all related institutional biases against third parties.
    They are/will taking/take over the party from within,
    One of the most rational people I've never met. A.R. of Texas, has aligned himself with this group and is now running for an office.
    I'm willing to bet Ozz, SciManStev and at least a few others know of A.R.
    1260) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846343)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    North America perhaps have some more interpretations.
    What a mess...

    Over here that is known as freedom [to impose] religion.
    1261) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846300)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And if Trump delivers a better economy, we will admit it.
    But we will point out the multiple errors he is bound to make.

    Sarge...

    Despite our disagreements. We need more like you.


    It remains to be seen if he will do any good things.
    If he does, it remains to be seen if I will admit, true to my word.
    But I most definitely try.
    And I think, while there are some who would never give him any credit, something like at least 75% of his dissenters would admit when he gets something right ... errr, correct.
    1262) Message boards : Politics : Horde (Message 1846260)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Buzkashi in Tajikistan - Central Asia's oldest proto-polo ...
    http://www.theodorekaye.com/buzkashi

    Young spectators view a horde of buzkashi horses from a nearby hill in Dangara, southern Tajikistan. A buzkashi rider escapes from rivals with the prize goat carcass.
    1263) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846249)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wow. You really have it almost 100% a$$-backwards. (Guy)
    doublespeak? that's a republican thing. calling $hit 'freedom of speech' when it's just elitist speak for 'let the money flow [to them]'

    Taking away freedoms? again, that's a republican thing. You assault freedoms that have no negative effect on things, and attack the very things that are there to protect said freedoms.

    And the majority of the country did NOT elect Trump.
    And the majority of the country IS to the left- of the satus quo. (to your left you'll find everyone)


    ^^^
    1264) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846248)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or maybe it died when I outed j_mercer for posting links to dodgy websites? Not just fact-wise, but maybe we're dang lucky we didn't get malicious software dropped on us from his link?

    Funny you be only one to complain. Red X it and let the Mods decide.

    8^)


    Only a libtard would call a warning against a security risk a "complaint". Limbaugh was right, liberals redefine words!
    (See what I did there? I redefined you as a liberal. Pretty witty, huh? No? Then don't call a "warning" a "complaint".)

    Ouch!
    Mommy!!
    Make it stop it!!!
    It hurts!!!!

    R0FLMA0!!!!!


    Then let's get back to critiquing DNC convention song picks ... .
    1265) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846243)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

    Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
    No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
    He is not like Richard Spencer.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

    Uhh, you from Sweden..............
    I suggest you stand down.
    Trump is going to deliver. And that is what all this tooth gnashing is about.
    Because he promised to dismantle most of what the government has been about for many many years.
    'Draining the swamp.'
    Ever pick up a large rock and watch the little bugs suddenly hurry and scurry to get out of the light?
    That is what this is all about. Trump has picked up the big rock and looked underneath.
    And they are all hurrying and scurrying and hissing and trying to find cover.

    How many presidents have promised to drain the swamp...... and failed.
    About the most they have ever done, and I see nothing to change my mind this time, is re-arrange things and feed different alligators.
    He might try and close things, like the green agenda and reduce some regulations, but he wants to increase manufacturing and the carbon fuels usage. So while some parts will decrease others will grow. Net result at best will be a status quo.


    ^^^

    And if Trump delivers a better economy, we will admit it.
    But we will point out the multiple errors he is bound to make.
    1266) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846167)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The black clad protesters wearing masks are the republican anarchists who want to dismantle government. They aren't students. They get their funding from the traditional republican sources like the Koch Brothers.

    Gary (who posted "invading horde of Jews" - Message# 1834379)

    What is the attribution regarding your allegation?


    While we await that, in the meantime, it appears you missed the link I provided, showing the word "horde" used multiple times ... in The Bible.

    Ancient and racist foundation.

    In these modern times. anyone posting or saying "Horde of Blacks", "Horde of Jews", etc. is...

    Sarge...

    Please explain what your reaction to any poster who today, referenced a people as "Horde of Blacks".


    My reaction is that Gary opened the thread "Racist? [Yes, You Are]", with, as I recall, data to indicate that we are all racist to some extent, or something akin to it resides in us and we must fight our baser instincts. I believe he, you, I and all others are fallible, but I suspect Gary "sees" motes in his own eyes more quickly or more clearly than you'll give him credit for.

    Sarge... Dismissing the other Posters constant inexcusable excuses, regarding a 'Fellow Traveller'. They just confirm what I have been posting.

    I thank you, as always, for your intelligent and insightful response. Even if we disagree regarding certain matters.

    Yes, we do agree that all People, Cultures, Ideologies, and Religions, including all Country's, are with sin.

    I have never dismissed, nor denied, the sins of my Country, Culture, etc. Nor dismissed or excused any Intolerant, Racist, Homophobic, etc. posting of those, with whom I agree politically.

    In my opinion. Gary. Who has posted "Jesus Freaks" (Message# 1834501), "invading horde of Jews" (Message# 1834379), ad nauseum. Is, as The Right Wing, The Left Wing, and The Religious Fanatics. Disclosing a Dangerous Intolerance.

    BTW: I have many times posted a mea culpa when shown to be incorrect. Awaiting Gary's mea culpa.


    Then please request the "Racist [Yes, You Are]" thread be re-opened.
    And, I see Christian band DC Talk has a song called Jesus Freak.
    1267) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846157)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or maybe it died when I outed j_mercer for posting links to dodgy websites? Not just fact-wise, but maybe we're dang lucky we didn't get malicious software dropped on us from his link?

    Funny you be only one to complain. Red X it and let the Mods decide.

    8^)


    Only a libtard would call a warning against a security risk a "complaint". Limbaugh was right, liberals redefine words!
    (See what I did there? I redefined you as a liberal. Pretty witty, huh? No? Then don't call a "warning" a "complaint".)
    1268) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846086)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Groundhog's Day to all, including to my enemies. (That includes you, Punxatawney Phil! But don't worry, I'm writing an executive order right now to de-fund Phil.) But seriously, f' my enemies!
    1269) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1846068)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, that thread must have slipped by me :-(

    I wonder what those who demanded that we non Americans butt out of their country are thinking now?

    I give it 6 months at the most before congress will look for the best excuse to impeach him.

    If that happens & Pence ends up impeached, who takes over?


    Sorry, if I'm wrong, but weren't you recently "happy" Trump had won?
    1270) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846066)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The black clad protesters wearing masks are the republican anarchists who want to dismantle government. They aren't students. They get their funding from the traditional republican sources like the Koch Brothers.

    Gary (who posted "invading horde of Jews" - Message# 1834379)

    What is the attribution regarding your allegation?


    While we await that, in the meantime, it appears you missed the link I provided, showing the word "horde" used multiple times ... in The Bible.

    Ancient and racist foundation.

    In these modern times. anyone posting or saying "Horde of Blacks", "Horde of Jews", etc. is...

    Sarge...

    Please explain what your reaction to any poster who today, referenced a people as "Horde of Blacks".


    My reaction is that Gary opened the thread "Racist? [Yes, You Are]", with, as I recall, data to indicate that we are all racist to some extent, or something akin to it resides in us and we must fight our baser instincts. I believe he, you, I and all others are fallible, but I suspect Gary "sees" motes in his own eyes more quickly or more clearly than you'll give him credit for.

    Yes I did and if anyone wants to continue that thread, and it seems to be the right place for a lot of this, just red-x any post in it and ask a mod to unlock it.

    It does look like the travel ban of Rump's didn't apply to people who dwell under bridges. Too bad. I suspect many here would have supported that ban.


    Nah. Paraphrasing: if you don't stand up for the free speech of people you disagree with the most, you don't really stand for it at all.
    1271) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846051)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The black clad protesters wearing masks are the republican anarchists who want to dismantle government. They aren't students. They get their funding from the traditional republican sources like the Koch Brothers.

    Gary (who posted "invading horde of Jews" - Message# 1834379)

    What is the attribution regarding your allegation?


    While we await that, in the meantime, it appears you missed the link I provided, showing the word "horde" used multiple times ... in The Bible.

    Ancient and racist foundation.

    In these modern times. anyone posting or saying "Horde of Blacks", "Horde of Jews", etc. is...

    Sarge...

    Please explain what your reaction to any poster who today, referenced a people as "Horde of Blacks".


    My reaction is that Gary opened the thread "Racist? [Yes, You Are]", with, as I recall, data to indicate that we are all racist to some extent, or something akin to it resides in us and we must fight our baser instincts. I believe he, you, I and all others are fallible, but I suspect Gary "sees" motes in his own eyes more quickly or more clearly than you'll give him credit for.
    1272) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1846046)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny how this thread died once it came out that it was a Christian terrorist who committed the murders.


    Or maybe it died when I outed j_mercer for posting links to dodgy websites? Not just fact-wise, but maybe we're dang lucky we didn't get malicious software dropped on us from his link?
    1273) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1846024)
    Posted 3 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The black clad protesters wearing masks are the republican anarchists who want to dismantle government. They aren't students. They get their funding from the traditional republican sources like the Koch Brothers.

    Gary (who posted "invading horde of Jews" - Message# 1834379)

    What is the attribution regarding your allegation?


    While we await that, in the meantime, it appears you missed the link I provided, showing the word "horde" used multiple times ... in The Bible.
    1274) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845978)
    Posted 2 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Trump family has already introduced the now famous product called "Alternative Reality"!

    And Anti Trump? Of course.

    Unfortunately, for the Anti Trump. They are increasingly becoming an irrelevant and boring Reality Show.


    Ah, I see! You mean anti-Bunyan!?
    1275) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845935)
    Posted 2 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1276) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1845883)
    Posted 2 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [For good or bad, the Republicans will probably gain more Senate Seats in two years.


    There is a hostile take-over of the Dems in the works and building, right now.
    1277) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845807)
    Posted 1 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Longer than 25 years.
    Furthermore, it is not in dispute that POLITICIANS of establishment PARTIES have moved WAY right over the decades and it is not in dispute that about 80% of the country, issue by iissue, are not conservatives.
    1278) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845804)
    Posted 1 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1279) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845709)
    Posted 1 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These days, regardless of type of job, if pne is working full time and under some amount I can't imagine to name, it feels like "working class". It seems "white collar" and "blue collar" lines are far beyond blurred. And I'm sure some will disagree with me. But I'll guarantee a good percentage that think I am wrong and are classical working class are making more than me. Perhaps a lot more.
    1280) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1845708)
    Posted 1 Feb 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    90,000 vs. 109? Those numbers aren't even in the same ballpark!

    That sounds like a thought crime!

    POTUS' people say it's 109, so- IT'S 109!

    That's because there are two ballparks. The "POTUS Ballpark" and the "Real World Ballpark"


    "You're a thought criminal!"
    1281) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845683)
    Posted 31 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80890&postid=1845634

    While the lesser of two evils is still evil, it is also LESS evil!
    And Hillary would've been easier to fight, Lynn. Now we have a shock and awe president ramming things down our throats much worse than ACA was a ramming.
    1282) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845682)
    Posted 31 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "President Trump, I'm tired of winning."


    "How's that MAGA thiny workin' out fer ya?"
    1283) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1845582)
    Posted 31 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee"


    That is far from a literal translation.
    My god, I am sorry with my whole heart for all of my sins is more technically correct. Four years of high school Latin and 4 years serving on the altar with the Latin Mass.


    Are you suggesting a less literal, less technical translation has somehow twisted the meaning?
    Or are you just picking nits?
    1284) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845581)
    Posted 31 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    says that 82% of such attacks since 9/11 were committed by "Citizens and Permanent Residents"


    That's why we don't want any more citizens and Permanent Residents from Islamic countries who travel back and forth to those seven countries for training and then commit acts of terrorism here. This has been the case here lately in case you haven't noticed. My daughter lived down the street from the Boston Bombers there in Cambridge Massachusetts. There is no way to gage their intent when they seek to immigrate here. France, Belgium, Sweden and Germany have learned this the hard way as well as England.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlan_Tsarnaev#2012_visit_to_Russia.2C_through_April_2013

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Malik#Religious_views_and_travels
    1285) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1845491)
    Posted 30 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As far as I know, the correct translation of Allahu Akbar is "God Is Great", not "OH My God".
    The first is an expression of praise and worship, the second is an expression of disbelief.
    Two entirely different things if one is committing an act of terror whilst shouting the phrase.

    Your translation is correct.
    Actually Allahu Akbar is "God Is Greater",
    Your interpretation is wrong.


    "God is great(er)!" ---> "Oh, my great God!" ---> "Oh. my Gawd!"
    1286) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1845481)
    Posted 30 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quebec mosque suspect identified as Mohamed Khadir: ‘Weird name for a white supremacist’

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/01/30/quebec-mosque-suspect-identified-mohamed-khadir-weird-name-white-supremacist-442233


    Does that link also contain web security risks?
    1287) Message boards : Politics : In Quebec Canada, are French Canadian Citizens seeking Revenge for recent past Killings in France? (Message 1845440)
    Posted 30 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BREAKING: TERROR ATTACK In Quebec, Canada…Attacker Yells “Allah Akbar”…Several Dead

    http://100percentfedup.com/breaking-terror-attack-in-quebec-canada-attacker-yells-allah-akbar-several-dead

    This is changing fast.


    It is well known that some Muslims have attacked some other Muslims many times. (Sunni vs. Shia.)
    Someone yelling "Allahu akbar!" is not proof a Muslim committed the act. I mean, come on, if at age 17, on "senior skip day", we yelled our school's name out of the car, it made our school look bad. So, we started yelling the name of other schools.

    I'll add that this "article" you linked to is highly emotional. And, it or a related page has a web security risk. THANKS.
    1288) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845419)
    Posted 30 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    House of Saud

    The family is estimated to comprise 15,000 members, but the majority of the power and wealth is possessed by a group of only about 2,000.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud

    Looks like of lots of players there.

    Yes those people,
    who have locked up >30,000 political prisoners,
    have links to violent groups in Syria and Iraq,
    links to al-Qa’ida,

    Need I say more.


    Have called all atheists terrorists.
    Behead people.
    Prosecute "witches".
    Their "drug war" is far more draconian than ours.
    1289) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845279)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I could vote in any primary I wanted at will, I'd be registered as independent (unaffiliated). But in NY you can only vote in a primary within your registered party, which is why I am a registered dem.


    I know... but it does tend to discourage some rather fun political games that are possible in so-called 'open primary' states such as Texas.

    Such as: 'Organized effort by one party to vote in the other party's primary for a total loser so that your party's candidate is a shoe-in to win the General Election.'... Loads of fun!


    Which can go "both" ways. so might it not tend to cancel out, eh?
    1290) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845254)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Really? You gave your life for your country like they did too? Wow! It's amazing that you can still type.


    And vote?

    Further spittle-flecked authentic frontier gibberish promoting bigotry will result in further A.C.LU. donations. Keep up the good work.


    YES!
    1291) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845253)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-tears-up-as-he-calls-trumps-immigration-ban-mean-spirited/article/2613299

    Somebody get chuck YOU! schumer a tissue.

    Continued rising debt.
    Continued rising unemployement.
    Continued rising terrorism.
    Continued sound of SUCKING (from jobs going over seas)
    Flat income.

    and the stock market keeps making the rich richer.

    This country has needed some BOLD action since Bush 41 said "no new taxes" and then let the democrats raise taxes. Trump is taking action.

    Trump is the first to stand up against the destruction of this country. You're witnessing real leadership.

    It's going to be a bumpy ride. But I welcome it. We'll be better off in the long run. I'd bet on it.

    Its a price worth paying as long as your not the one paying it, right? Shame on you. You actually defend this scapegoating and persecution of people different from you. Shame on you.


    No, see, this is where you refer to the multi-national corporatist Republicans and the eventual and increasingly multi-national corporatist Democrats that brought on all he is talking about (as opposed to identity politics) and his Lord is really the guy that isn't going to turn around but ramp it up!
    1292) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845252)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    See what I did there? Age-ism sucks, in both directions. But you've had several THREADS about it recently.
    But seriously, quit whinin', sit down, shaddup and listen.


    See what I did there? Being told to sit down and shaddup? I'm Steve Bannon.
    But seriously, quit whinin', sit down, shaddup and listen.
    1293) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845235)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    See what I did there? Age-ism sucks, in both directions. But you've had several THREADS about it recently.
    But seriously, quit whinin', sit down, shaddup and listen.
    1294) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845231)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80894&postid=1845218

    Ha ha ha! I endured 2 years of your winter weather and 37 of my 48.5 years in similar or worse winter weather. Those longer winter walks have inured me against your emotionalism. And my last 7.5 years have been because of your last mistake. Quit yer cryin', shut up and listen. Senior snowflakes must be the worst of all.
    1295) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845215)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yip meow yippity yap!
    1296) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845214)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    TJWs (Trump Justice Warriors) yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip at angles orthogonal to reality. Put a rubber band in your coffee, invent improbability drive! Yip yappitapy yip yap!
    1297) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845209)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cry babies crying about "cry babies".
    You're a special little snowflake, aren't you?
    Keep it up! Ha, ha, HA!

    He may be, I certainly am.

    Just as women appropriated the word "pussy" (among others); homosexuals the words "queer" and "gay" (among others); it may be time for those opposed to the normalization of "45" to appropriate the word "snowflake".


    The post you have responded to is indeed the beginnings of that appropriation.
    1298) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845208)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...her exact words were, "you have to have a public position and a private position" or something like that...

    What makes you think I didn't take notice?

    What makes you think Hilary was my preferred candidate from the democratic party?


    So you cut your nose off to spite your face?

    Hilary only behaved like politicians have behaved since forever (actually she wasn't as bad). The only mistake she made was being female so that her normal politicians behaviour suddenly became unforgivable.

    Being a sexual assaulting racist lying bully wasn't a deal breaker for you.


    I'm confused? Bernie was a sexual assaulting racist?

    ...There were people that voted for Bernie in primaries who then voted for Clinton in the general election (Ex could be among this group), just as there were Clinton voters on 2008 who voted for Obama.

    Ex is among this group yes. I'd never have voted for Trump.

    Sorry, I got you mixed up with someone else. I hadn't had my morning tea. There are a couple of people here who wanted Bernie, but voted for Trump when they couldn't have him.


    Here? Who?
    1299) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845206)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...her exact words were, "you have to have a public position and a private position" or something like that...

    What makes you think I didn't take notice?

    What makes you think Hilary was my preferred candidate from the democratic party?


    So you cut your nose off to spite your face?

    Hilary only behaved like politicians have behaved since forever (actually she wasn't as bad). The only mistake she made was being female so that her normal politicians behaviour suddenly became unforgivable.

    Being a sexual assaulting racist lying bully wasn't a deal breaker for you.


    Sigh. I know others already responded, but COME ON, Es! You do know at least one more reason she lost, don't you? Sending surrogates to certain states she thought were guaranteed instead of going herself? States that Trump flipped? You did learn of this, yes?
    1300) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845203)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Customs agents ignore judge, enforce Trump’s travel ban: ACLU
    http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-agents-ignore-judge-enforce-trumps-travel-ban-aclu/

    I hope the above is not true. :(


    This is a nation of laws. TRUMP laws.
    Hillary would have been easier to fight.
    1301) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845081)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought Trump was the 45th president or am I mistaken?

    Unfortunately that isn't an alternate fact. This is about how long before #46


    Did you fail to see :-)?

    I find people that have no humour either insane or dangerous.

    Didn't see your :-) after ....46....

    So Obama will be the 48th then :-)


    Michelle, Malia or Sasha?

    Does it matter, it'll still be Obama :-)


    If I were an Obama, I'd say "No way am I running, we've been put through enough." Not to say we won't hear from Barack, but any of his family running? Doubt it.


    EXcellent point, EX!
    1302) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845080)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll know it's over with when judges and or lawmakers start to 'disappear'. At that point you may not hear from me for awhile, as I'll probably disappear myself voluntarily.

    Only possible if the rest of the world doesn't introduce a ban on Americans :-)

    Who will sponsor a Setizen?


    Maybe Eric & Angela will let us start a commune in their area?
    We promise to work hard.
    And to be nice to squirrels.
    1303) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845079)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Palmistry- Types of hand (small,long, ordinary, primary, square ...)

    Very Small hand

    "Very Small hand: Persons of this kind of hand are narrow minded and suspicious by nature. They quarrel for small gains.
    They give first priority for their selfish aims. They talk ill of others. They do not contribute anything for the society. "

    Yeah, no need to add anything to that :-)


    Phrenology next?
    1304) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1845078)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (hahaha! what US citizen wants to go there? I spent some time in a couple different muslim-majority countries and I never want to go back to one!)
    So now you speak for, er dictate to all Americans!


    The "Christian Dominionist" thinks he does. Dictate.

    Isn't that identical to Sharia Law?


    Well, one thinks the savior's already been here. The other thinks he is the savior but just isn't divine and hasn't saved us yet.
    1305) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1845076)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    8 days, 1 suspension. Keep it up, Donny!
    1306) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1845023)
    Posted 29 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (hahaha! what US citizen wants to go there? I spent some time in a couple different muslim-majority countries and I never want to go back to one!)
    So now you speak for, er dictate to all Americans!


    The "Christian Dominionist" thinks he does. Dictate.
    1307) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1845016)
    Posted 28 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have seen presidents that I agree with and disagree with,
    But I have never known one that scared the s**t out of me.
    This one does, on so many levels.

    Steve

    Same here my friend, same here. You are not alone.


    Dump Chuck Shumer, it's just us now (coded message).
    1308) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1845000)
    Posted 28 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yappin 'Bout HATEred Nnn INTOLERANCE Nnd XeNOphobia Yap.


    ReAL AmeriCANS 'R AGAINST the yappity HATE


    America can! AmeriCAN!
    Real AmeriCANS do, though some yappity YAP on da S@H fora!
    Yippity yap!
    1309) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844992)
    Posted 28 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/business/technology-h-1b-visa-immigration.html

    OMG! Trump's going to force some American tech companies to hire American workers and the only way the American companies are going to be able to do this is to pay American's more than what they pay H1B immigrants!

    The HORROR! Just WHO the HECK voted for this guy?! Investors are going to potentially take a hit! OMG! And they can't move their businesses over seas because their choice is either start paying the 93 Million+ unemployed Americans more or pay an import tax! OMG!

    How refreshing.

    If Obama had acted like this, I'd have never heard the end of it from you Guy.

    =P


    x v y = 0 when x and y are mutually exclusive.
    1310) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844991)
    Posted 28 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YAppITY YAP!
    1311) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844990)
    Posted 28 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cry babies crying about "cry babies".
    You're a special little snowflake, aren't you?
    Keep it up! Ha, ha, HA!
    1312) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844825)
    Posted 27 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "And Mrs May said the two of them share a political approach of putting "the interests of ordinary people" first."

    The best joke of the 21st century :-)

    May & Trump


    HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1313) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844749)
    Posted 27 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "President Trump, I'm tired of winning."
    1314) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844695)
    Posted 27 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80891
    1315) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1844662)
    Posted 27 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I don't think Orwell intended that book to be treated as a guide.


    Then you haven't been paying attention. Orwell wrote 1984, Animal Farm, et al as warnings against communism, nationalism, censorship and surveillance. To say he didn't intend his book to be "treated as a guide" is pretty ignorant.

    Also, if I had a penny for every far-rightist that compared Obama to Hitler, Fascism and Orwellian works, I'd have enough for a SETI-Server2. It gets old watching the left call the GOP President Hitler and the right call the Dem President Hitler. Both sides crying wolf about how "this is the end, surely Obama/Trump will be the end of democracy and the beginning of a dictatorship!" is getting pretty silly. Our democracy was sold out a long time ago to corporate interests and greed.


      A guidebook for survival? Barely. More of warnings.
      But Bobby meant it should not be a guidebook for dictators.
      And I'm sure, when it came to previous presidents, the percent that drew comparisons to some nasty figure pales in comparison to those making them now about Trump.
      Our democracy sold to multi-national corporations? NO

    1316) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844660)
    Posted 27 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought Trump was the 45th president or am I mistaken?

    Unfortunately that isn't an alternate fact. This is about how long before #46


    Did you fail to see :-)?

    I find people that have no humour either insane or dangerous.

    Didn't see your :-) after ....46....

    So Obama will be the 48th then :-)


    Michelle, Malia or Sasha?

    Does it matter, it'll still be Obama :-)


    If I were an Obama, I'd say "No way am I running, we've been put through enough." Not to say we won't hear from Barack, but any of his family running? Doubt it.
    1317) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844623)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought Trump was the 45th president or am I mistaken?

    Unfortunately that isn't an alternate fact. This is about how long before #46


    Did you fail to see :-)?

    I find people that have no humour either insane or dangerous.

    Didn't see your :-) after ....46....

    So Obama will be the 48th then :-)


    Michelle, Malia or Sasha?
    1318) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844604)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yap, that's they way banana republics do it, arrest members of the losing party, that works for me. What's not to like?


    Those weak, silly Dems, not locking up Dubya right after O'bummers inauguration.
    1319) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844603)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought Trump was the 45th president or am I mistaken?

    Unfortunately that isn't an alternate fact. This is about how long before #46


    Did you fail to see :-)?

    I find people that have no humour either insane or dangerous.
    1320) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844547)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, but a majority of America just voted against socialism.

    Only about 50% of the "majority of America" voted!


    And just under a majority of them simply voted to reject center-right, pro-international corporations Democrats. Or, at least, voted against an individual, named Hillary.
    1321) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844537)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good enough reason for me.

    Ahmed Ressam
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ressam


    Aw, gee, ya caught me. Turn me in.

    Poof... you are human. ;^)


    Well, gee, thanks for upgrading me.
    1322) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844536)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Insanity is being able to cross Niagara Falls from NYS into Canada in 1976 without a passport but not being able to without passport in 2007.
    I haven't been through that border since they started requiring a passport, I guess they don't want my money. I don't travel to other continents or Mexico and as such I refuse to get a passport just to make a trip that I consider to be local.

    It is indeed sad that this is the world we live in. It's ok though, it's gonna be GREAT again as soon as we are living in a police state.


    I am pretty sure it wasn't Canada's fault.
    The U.S. wanted me to pay more for a longer trip after leaving a funeral.
    1323) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844508)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good enough reason for me.

    Ahmed Ressam
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ressam


    Aw, gee, ya caught me. Turn me in.
    1324) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844507)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yap!
    1325) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844408)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Insanity is being able to cross Niagara Falls from NYS into Canada in 1976 without a passport but not being able to without passport in 2007.
    1326) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844407)
    Posted 26 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yap.
    1327) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844367)
    Posted 25 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Presidential Order: Wall to be built

    Has anyone stopped to think about this?

    It's not to keep people out...

    ...but to keep you Yanks in :-)

    Think Canada had better build theirs just in case :-)


    I already suggested that possibility a few months ago.
    How did it work out for China?
    East Germany?
    1328) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844366)
    Posted 25 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not necessarily to keep the US citizens in, it more likely to keep the Latinos in as they are needed to keep the US economy going.

    Of course it is.
    How many US citizens would like to work with a minimum wage as best?

    You are forgetting, tRump is going to lower the minimum wage, it is one of those regulations that harm business!

    Actually in my country we dont have a minimum wage.
    It's up to the employer and the employee to come to an agreement.
    Still we are loosing jobs!
    In Sweden, unlike most countries, no statutory minimum wage, but these are established through collective bargaining between the social partners, ie employers and trade unions, without direct government involvement.
    Collective agreements are voluntary, why their lowest landmark represents only the minimum wage in the companies that have chosen to join collective agreements.
    Thus, there is no minimum wage in Sweden, but the salary is a legally unregulated agreement between workers and employers.


    But unions receive much scorn here in the USA.
    1329) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844365)
    Posted 25 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Typical of your thinking that 'spent time living/serving in PA' would be a factor for consideration rather than actual views on the Constitution.

    Justice Gorsuch will be confirmed over the weeping and wailing of the Dims........


    about Hardiman, well, YES I do think that's a factor. Of those 3 choices he would be my pick. Although like the others, he is a hard line conservative, the worst thing I see about him is that he's pro-gun (which doesn't bother this liberal much). That, and I think someone who's served in a busy northern city might not have such ridiculous views as the others, due to possibly being grounded in some sort of actual realty (as opposed to alternative reality).

    Obviously Gorsuch is likely my least desired of the 3.

    In any event, it's up to our wonderful and intelligent president to make a pick. And it's up to the dems in office to fight tooth and nail if the pick is absurd.


    Sounds like somebody doesn't realize there's much much more to PA than Philly, Pittsburgg and Scranton. Much is rural. Heck, within 20 miles of Scranton are COAL MINES!!! Sheesh. But maybe it has to be somebody from W. Va.?
    1330) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844248)
    Posted 25 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Outage! Make SETI@Home great again!

    Maybe Trump should take some pointers, and shut down the US government every Tuesday and work out bugs and perform upgrades.


    Interesting, but I think our atheist president won't even taken a Saturday or Sunday off.
    1331) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844219)
    Posted 24 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Outage! Make SETI@Home great again!
    1332) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844176)
    Posted 24 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    As for the SCOTUS (probably the most important reason he was elected)...


    As if many Trump voters even understand the implications of presidential party affiliation and it's affect on SCOTUS... Let's be real here- he was elected by the working class, for the promises he made to the working class.

    One thing he did today that made me happy- ditch the TPP. (even though it was already likely d-e-a-d dead)


    Every non-economic thing he does will receive backlash from 75% of the U.S. And that's assuming he doesn't crash us.
    1333) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844174)
    Posted 24 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would anyone be so ridiculous as to claim that the conservatives that attended Dan's Bake sale (promoted by Rush Limbaigh) were all unemplyed, etc. ... ?
    1334) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1844143)
    Posted 24 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, please ... have had some experience as a judge beforehand.
    1335) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844133)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not quite, someone tipexed the last 2 letters: "OT"


    "Tipexed"?

    For those academics who demand perfection: White Correction Fluid


    We just call it "Correction Fluid". And type much then spell/grammar check.
    I'll be[t] this is like "facial tissues" and "Kleenex", a generic product taking on the name of a specific brand of it.
    If Ivanka gets into office products, it may become Trumpex. Or Kushex. And isn't Kush a type of weed?


    Correction: we also call it "white out".
    1336) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1844132)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Non-US Citizens? Not really any of your business.

    This is so wrong as to be laughable. It is perfectly reasonable for non-US citizens to be concerned about who has the position of POTUS, just as it is perfectly reasonable for US Citizens to be concerned about the Head of State of, for instance, North Korea.


    As well as whether Brexit succeeded or failed.
    1337) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844131)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The question is will he be a trivia answer in a century?

    Hopefully if he is, the question will be "Which president served the shortest term" (or second shortest, assuming he makes it more than 31 days).

    Careful what you wish for:

    Armando Iannucci wrote:
    You are the worst person ever; and yet not as bad as Mike Pence.

    (source)


    Agreed. Pence is even worse/
    1338) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844130)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    communism *is* repressive.

    So what if it is? Oh, that's right, in your topsy turvy view of the world Clinton and all her supporters are communists. Given that facts don't matter, there's no arguing against your view.


    Uhhh ... which definition of communism are you using, Bobby? I've always understood it as the extreme, totalitarian version of socialism. I do view communism as repressive.
    Surely, Guy though, thinks socialism is communism is socialism. Or that socialism is the extreme, totalitarian version of communism,
    1339) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1844113)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull who was once a worm, here is something you need:
    To become a member and Friend of the Flat Earth Society, a donation of $12.00 is requested. By becoming a Friend of the Flat Earth Society, you will receive a membership card, a signed membership certificate and a hand-cast (by Daniel Shenton himself) pewter medallion which will be individually numbered with your unique Society membership number. These items will be sent to you by international air-mail. More than likely, I'll also include any little Flat Earth Society trinkets I have on hand at the time -- stickers, fridge magnets, postcards.. stuff like that. As with the Associate Membership, your name will be included with our online membership records only if you request it.


    Yap yippity!
    1340) Message boards : Politics : The US has elected its most dangerous leader. We all have plenty to fear. (Message 1844087)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump White House shuts down comments line.
    Giving new meaning to “no comment.”

    Yeah well, who is surprised? The Russian government doesn't have a comments line either.


    Poor Donny just got another signature to a petition that already has enough signatures, yet his internal numbers tell him the US citizens don't care about.
    1341) Message boards : Politics : ....................45....................aka CITIZEN No. 1 Calls 'em RIGHT Every Time...Greatest LIARS In PREZ History: O'BLABBY; SHRUB II; SLICK WILLIE 9 to Zero WINNING!!! by American & BEST PREZ EVER (Message 1844085)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We now live in a new Great era.
    War is Peace.
    Freedom is Slavery.
    Ignorance is Strength.

    Lies are Alternative facts.


    LOL, quoting Orwell's 1984...


    OMG, is THAT where it came from?! You think maybe somebody turned it into a guidebook? Is Orwell spinning in his grave? (The "Soup Lady" from the 1984 film "1984" is. :()
    1342) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1844041)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Non-US Citizens? Not really any of your business.

    Since your new Fascist president is trying to destroy the world with his Fascist Neck Sunburn (RN's) ideas, it is indeed our business too.
    The Non-US Citizens will continue to point out the criminality of the Trump administration.
    If you don't like that, then tough shi*.
    Maybe going to your local Trump Halleluja rally would help boost your confidence.

    Geeze.....


    He is not a Trump supporter.
    1343) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844040)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, dark humor (a la the U.S. show "M*A*S*H*") is never to be appreciated?

    M*A*S*H* in the eyes of many on this side of the pond, probably the only US TV show that is appreciated.


    Then why is BBC America showing so much Star Trek? :)
    1344) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844034)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, at times your posts do the right things, but at other times you shoot yourself in the foot.

    Greater thinking is required buddy.

    Cheers.


    So, you expect everyone to be on target every single time?
    So, dark humor (a la the U.S. show "M*A*S*H*") is never to be appreciated?
    So, you don't want to make SETI@Home great again?
    :)
    1345) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1844010)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My friends, you'll be pleased to know that 46 ("Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] ") emerged from his first weekend. Scandal free.

    The number of work units returned by him and the entire S@H community was HUGE!
    The only drugs taken at the Friday night only parties were Geritol and Mylanta. VP "kittyman's" rendition of "God Bless SETI@Home (Save the Kitties)" was stellar. "His axe work and soaring vocals were the best I've heard from him and I think may be the best performance ever in human history!" said musician JJ.
    Free of deletorius effects Saturday morning, the team set to work. 46 passed an executive order to get us to Mars by 2019 and his VP donated $200000 of his own many to the Breakthrough Listen project.
    Make SETI@Home great again!
    1346) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1844008)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, it's sarcasm.
    1347) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843926)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich habe viel vergessen.

    Ich auch.
    Grüß Gott.


    Gute Nacht.
    Ich werde morgen sprechen.
    1348) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843918)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich habe viel vergessen.
    1349) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843910)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope Trump is aware of the concept "Alternative Accounting".
    For all I know alternatives don't exist and that goes for "Alternative Reality".

    They'll just have to use "Alternative Mathematics"

    Hmmm.
    I haven't read or studied that math.
    Only the Tits alternative, named for Jacques Tits, that is an important theorem about the structure of finitely generated linear groups.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tits_alternative


    "I don't even wait. I just grab 'em by the theorem. Move in a like a female dog (eine Hunde) on 'em!"

    ?
    1350) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843895)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope Trump is aware of the concept "Alternative Accounting".
    For all I know alternatives don't exist and that goes for "Alternative Reality".

    They'll just have to use "Alternative Mathematics"


    I've lost colleagues due to some idiot administrator's alternative accounting.
    1351) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843876)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And yes, there's a simpler reason: those who voted for Trump had to go to work on Friday.


    Try again. Metro stats suggest some DC residents did not go to work.

    Perhaps the low turnout has something to do with a realization that "Drain the swamp" was an empty promise (given the Goldman Sachs, etc appointments).

    bill of goods


    No, no, no, of course Guy is correct! ONLY those that voted for Trump have jobs!!!
    1352) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843874)
    Posted 23 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not quite, someone tipexed the last 2 letters: "OT"


    "Tipexed"?

    For those academics who demand perfection: White Correction Fluid


    We just call it "Correction Fluid". And type much then spell/grammar check.
    I'll be this is like "facial tissues" and "Kleenex", a generic product taking on the name of a specific brand of it.
    If Ivanka gets into office products, it may become Trumpex. Or Kushex. And isn't Kush a type of weed?
    1353) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843819)
    Posted 22 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who cares how many people showed up.

    You cared enough to create an 8 year liberal conspiracy of picture taking.

    Like it matters...

    Right, facts don't matter anymore.


    C'mon, everybody knows only the gubmint owned cameras 8 years ago. It wasn't until 2013, when cell phone companies did an end-run around Obama, that cameras got into the hand of the common man.
    1354) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843810)
    Posted 22 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is so much better than watching re-runs of the "Benny Hill Show"

    DOES IT really matter how many attended on Friday & in 2009?

    Trump is POTUS & unless some mishap occurs or stupidity on his side, you will have to wait 4 years before you can get rid of him so sit back & enjoy the ride :-)


    Here's why it both does and does not matter.

    It does not matter because, as stated in the sparring this morning between kellyanne conway and Chuck Todd (both lame in their own ways), it the actions of a president that will matter, not how many attend an inauguration.

    See what I did with lowercase and uppercase letters there, guy? Pretty witty, huh? No? Then it's not witty from you either, Guy.

    It does not matter how many people were there because:

    An inauguration can be watched on TV or online.

    Weather can be deterrent.
    Distance and cost of travel can be a deterrent.
    Work commitments can be a deterrent.

    These last three impact Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians (and libertarians, those that are libertarian but not in lock-step with the party of that name), Greens and so on down the list, plus UnAffiliateds (such as myself). While j_mercer (I think it was him) is having a good laugh, I shake my head at his contention that a reason for the a difference in crowd size had to do with more lazy and unemployed people attending a certain inauguration. (I also reject another's characterization of what jobs are respectable, as that ignores the other jobs a person has held in the past or what that person does outside of official work time. I do not judge the intrinisic value of types of jobs, but I do question what some of them are worth)

    Here's why it does matter.

    He may have officially become president on Friday, but Trump (not trump, right, Guy?) already has a record of leading large organizations. Not just in business, but even politically. He made Cabinet picks. He inserted himself in situations before "the peaceful transition of power". Trump has already taken actions that we can analyze and judge.

    It matters because the Tweeter-in-Chief can do whatever he wants while the National Park Service has been grounded from Twitter for re-posting the comparison picture. ("Only our truth is the right truth!")
    (Need a link for this news?)

    It matters because Press Secretary Sean Spicer went out and threw a temper tantrum Saturday. He has continued the story and the coverage. Not only those not happy with Trump that are discussing this are responsible for making it a controversy. Trump supporters that discuss it continue it. You and I, by discussing it, bear responsibility. Spicer has demanded that their version is the correct one (need a link for this, as well?) and is yet more evidence of how this administration will govern, interact with the press and ... I have fair to good reason to believe ... we the people ourselves.
    1355) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843804)
    Posted 22 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, "kittyman" (aka Paul Ryan), you are the VP to "Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] ".
    1356) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843684)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not quite, someone tipexed the last 2 letters: "OT"


    "Tipexed"?
    1357) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1843604)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not even your God can save you now.

    Yap that.


    Yappity yap!
    1358) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens (Message 1843603)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And Fred Trump was released without charges.

    The power of wealth in action.

    OJ didn't do it!

    Free OJ! Santa Claus is handing out orange juice! Free OJ!
    1359) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843543)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] ", a.k.a. Mike Pence, has already been sworn in as the 46th President of the USA.

    What
    God
    wants.
    God
    gets.
    God help us all!


    This thread appears to be winning the popular vote, but "Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] "'s boss won the Electoral College and then handed it over to ""Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] ".
    1360) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843457)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where were the flag waving, cheering crowds and V.I.P.'s?

    That would have to be the smallest and quietest P.P. that I've ever seen by a long way.

    2009 on top, 2017 on bottom, not much hope in America today

    That's probably why I could quite clearly hear the "Boos" over the now and again "Cheers" during the parade.

    The parade itself will likely go down as the greatest non event of this century.

    Guy, and others like him, have just got to learn to live with the fact that the Donald is the most unpopular U.S. President in history, and a picture is worth more than a thousands words.

    Cheers.


    You mean guy? trump?
    (Yeah, we know what he's doing, thank god! donald JOHN!!! trump.)
    1361) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843454)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Too many slaves in this world
    Die by torture and pain
    Too many people do not see
    They're killing themselves, going insane

    Too many people do not know
    Bondage is over the human race
    They believe slaves always lose
    And this fear keeps them down

    Watch the damned (God bless ya)
    They're gonna break their chains (hey)
    No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
    They're coming to get you
    And then you'll get your

    ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall, ***** to the wall

    You may screw their brains
    You may sacrifice them, too
    You may mortify their flesh
    You may rape them all

    One day the tortured stand up
    And revolt against the evil
    They make you drink your blood
    And tear yourself to pieces

    You better watch the damned (God bless ya)
    They're gonna break their chains (hey)
    No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
    They're coming to get you
    And then you'll get your

    ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall, ***** to the wall

    Come on man, let's stand up all over the world
    Let's plug a bomb in everyone's ***
    If they don't keep us alive, we're gonna fight for the rights

    Build a wall with the bodies of the dead, and you're saved
    Make the world scared, come on, show me the sign of victory
    Sign of victory, SIGN OF VICTORY!!!

    You better watch the damned (God bless ya)
    They're gonna break their chains (hey)
    No, you can't stop them (God bless ya)
    They're coming to get you
    And then you'll get your

    ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    ***** to the wall
    You'll get your ***** to the wall, man
    1362) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843453)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'Member what the peasants said/did when she said "Let them eat cake?"
    1363) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843451)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Peasants at it again?" So much for some Dems revealing their true natures. MANY are revealing they're true, dark, natures. On both "sides". Scary to watch.
    1364) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843450)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRWRRBX3TB0

    OMG.
    What God Wants?
    Don't you already know it?
    God bless America.

    BTW. Great performance by Jeff Beck together with Roger Waters:)


    Whaaaat? Beck played at the inauguration?
    1365) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843446)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! "Veiled personal attacks"? No, I say it outright, again and again. You do not live by the standards you set. Why in the world anyone has the patience to politely discuss things with you when you do not live by the standards you set is beyond me. I'd rather read what non-MajorKong writes than what you write. guy


    P.S.-whining about personal attacks while skating over many valid points is what's really the last vestige of one on the losing end.
    1366) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843443)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Mark, you're saying you're in?
    1367) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843439)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! "Veiled personal attacks"? No, I say it outright, again and again. You do not live by the standards you set. Why in the world anyone has the patience to politely discuss things with you when you do not live by the standards you set is beyond me. I'd rather read what non-MajorKong writes than what you write. guy
    1368) Message boards : Politics : Conservative woman regrets voting for Trump (Message 1843400)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Things are getting shaken up in all the wrong ways. I would have been in favor of draining the swamp if he'd actually done that. But all he's done is to replace career politicians with the rich elite and/or anyone in direct conflict with the position to which they've been assigned. That isn't draining the swamp. That's just being reckless.


    All he's done with the swamp is the former swamp denizens' masters are now the swamp themselves. Rather than pulling the strings, they are now directly in power. Congrats, Alex Jones fans.
    1369) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843369)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where were the flag waving, cheering crowds and V.I.P.'s?

    That would have to be the smallest and quietest P.P. that I've ever seen by a long way.

    2009 on top, 2017 on bottom, not much hope in America today


    "How's that 'Nope' thingy workin' out for ya? You betcha!"
    1370) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843368)
    Posted 21 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRWRRBX3TB0
    1371) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843333)
    Posted 20 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can let your RAC dwindle to 0 again, Guy.
    Or, "--".
    1372) Message boards : Politics : (Always wrong) ... 46 ... (Message 1843298)
    Posted 20 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Make Science GREAT Again. STOP dA FAKE Science of Political Bias; Agendas; Hoaxs; Scams; Schemes of Money Granting. All To Perpetuate An Indocrination of FAKE Science fostering FAKE Policies Thieving from TaxPayers. [Top 25% in average credit] ", a.k.a. Mike Pence, has already been sworn in as the 46th President of the USA.

    What
    God
    wants.
    God
    gets.
    God help us all!
    1373) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843118)
    Posted 20 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I personally had to pay a $2500 deductible that took almost 3 years when my wife broke her wrist.
    I work a good job, but don't have $2500 sitting around. Now, my wife was put on two days a week, and lost her insurance, vacation, holiday pay. I put her on my plan, but $140 a week gets us a $5000 deductible. The US is 27'th world wide in health care. France is #1. I don't understand why we don't look at countries that have success, and keep defending being in 27'th place as the right way to go.

    We are also 29'th in education. It seems to me that as AI and automation continue to take hold, a lack of education will cripple us.

    https://www.thebalance.com/healthcare-costs-3306068

    This is what is happening to jobs. What happens when this matures?

    https://flipboard.com/@flipboard/flip.it%2FJouBYS-bet-you-didnt-see-this-coming-10-jobs-t/f-22fa871a8d%2Ffastcompany.com

    Steve

    Unfortunately the answer is already there. Education. However it has been held back so long by so many that the masses who vote no longer have the ability to see how to connect the dots.


    Trump's pick DeVos is the daughter-in-law of one of two co-founders of Amway.
    Won't get scammed again?
    Looks like Daltrey was wrong.
    1374) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1843042)
    Posted 19 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note to other Posters.

    Are you enjoying The Lefts squirming, as I am?


    Translation: "Help! I'm being attacked and I sure could use some help from some of the people that have been battling these lefties on the forums. They're starting to make me defensive and I'm losing my cool. Sure could use some backup!"

    Nope.

    One Non Left or Right poster, with one hand tied behind his back. Can defeated the silliness, and worse, of a Universe of Ideologues.

    BTW: You guys are sinking faster and faster.


    Translation: "Never show them blood! Never show them your sweat! Never let on how bad you're doing so long as you keep saying you are winning, you're winning!"

    I kinda feel like a cat toying with a mouse. I would almost feel bad if you didn't do this to yourself.

    I am enjoying this.

    BTW: You are the mouse. But you don't understand it.

    Excusing "So the Palestinians should be kicked out of Gaza by an invading horde of Jews with an army?

    As if one described a Black African Country, invading a White African Country as:

    "So the Whites should be kicked out of... by an invading horde of Blacks with an army?"

    Pure Racist Comment. As "hoard of Jews' is pure Anti Semitism.

    Case closed.


    https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=horde&qs_version=NIV


    Janne, it helps if you:

    1) Think back to some other recent discussions and
    2) Note what I quoted, to see the context in which I shared that link.
    1375) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842973)
    Posted 19 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note to other Posters.

    Are you enjoying The Lefts squirming, as I am?


    Translation: "Help! I'm being attacked and I sure could use some help from some of the people that have been battling these lefties on the forums. They're starting to make me defensive and I'm losing my cool. Sure could use some backup!"

    Nope.

    One Non Left or Right poster, with one hand tied behind his back. Can defeated the silliness, and worse, of a Universe of Ideologues.

    BTW: You guys are sinking faster and faster.


    Translation: "Never show them blood! Never show them your sweat! Never let on how bad you're doing so long as you keep saying you are winning, you're winning!"

    I kinda feel like a cat toying with a mouse. I would almost feel bad if you didn't do this to yourself.

    I am enjoying this.

    BTW: You are the mouse. But you don't understand it.

    Excusing "So the Palestinians should be kicked out of Gaza by an invading horde of Jews with an army?

    As if one described a Black African Country, invading a White African Country as:

    "So the Whites should be kicked out of... by an invading horde of Blacks with an army?"

    Pure Racist Comment. As "hoard of Jews' is pure Anti Semitism.

    Case closed.


    https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=horde&qs_version=NIV
    1376) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842956)
    Posted 19 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Mark, I don't feel it's asking too much that they share a bit of the profits with me.

    By all means, let them profit. Just give me (us) even a tiny bit!


    Well, they kind of do share it. In both Taxes and Wages.

    The employer pays his employees their wages... That is the employer buys the employee's labor at a price they mutually agree on. If the employee feels it is not enough, they can always either quit or not take the job to begin with. Either find another job that will pay more, or go into business for yourself.

    If enough people feel that the Taxes are not enough, well... that is why we have elected representatives in Government... the taxes can be increased thusly.

    Just don't be an indolent whiner. Either do something to help yourself, or hush.


    As I said before .... .

    Yes, one can seek better (higher paying( employment.
    But that search requires time and money.
    Time above and beyond the current work.
    Money to send one's transcripts, for example.
    To travel to job interviews.
    T move to the new job.
    So on and so forth.

    You often point out factors people miss, yet you leave out many factors as well.
    1377) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842674)
    Posted 16 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should a good idea, that leads to (for example) a good product, be worth something? YES!
    Now, how MUCH more should it be worth than what is paid to those that GREATLY HELP in seeing that product come to fruition and distribution?
    1378) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842527)
    Posted 16 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Eight billionaires 'as rich as world's poorest half’"

    "The world's eight richest individuals have as much wealth as the 3.6bn people who make up the poorest half of the world, according to Oxfam."

    Yes, it is far worse than we can imagine.

    <ed>If it isn't trickling down now, what makes you think it ever will?



    But! But! But! The spending cuts were never enacted!?!
    1379) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1842435)
    Posted 15 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    File types I'm pretty sure I should not transfer:

    Application
    Application extension (.dll)
    JPG
    PNG
    Text

    Not sure:

    BIN
    CL
    VLAR


    ?
    1380) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842329)
    Posted 15 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. Wrong city anyways.


    Doubting it's WENY or WETM. And I suspect you're not further west of there. :) Unless you're a Democrat & Chronicle subscriber?


    Democrat and Chronicle, Bingo.

    Preferred outlets, WXXI TV (PBS) and AM (NPR)


    Eastman-Kodak.
    Gundry.

    Gates. Chili.
    Webster. West Henrietta.

    Strong-Memorial.
    1381) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842327)
    Posted 15 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. Wrong city anyways.


    Doubting it's WENY or WETM. And I suspect you're not further west of there. :) Unless you're a Democrat & Chronicle subscriber?
    1382) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1842321)
    Posted 15 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope there're enough paddy wagons to contain all these cry-baby, temper-tantrum democrat children.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/14/inauguration-protesters-plan-to-destroy-property-and-disrupt-balls/

    I don't remember anything like this planned for obama's inauguration from the republicans.

    It's about time for some adult leadership. We've been without it now for 8 years.

    Yes, because people planning on protesting (in an improper fashion) is *also* the fault of POTUS (like everything else...).

    sigh.
    Maybe our new totalitarian dictator can change this country into something that will make you happier.


    @MK, unfortunately like many Americans I do not pay as much attention to my state and local elections as I should. That said, my local media is also at fault for not giving enough information to make a truly informed opinion, especially at the city+county levels.
    As far as congress and senate- my preferred candidates hold office in both. luckily.


    Dude, don't denigrate WSTM!
    1383) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1842082)
    Posted 14 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't you worry Dull, on inauguration day I will be protesting or throwing my support behind protesters in one way or another.


    @Clyde, when the whole ship starts taking on water, we ALL sink.

    United We Stand.

    Yap.


    But it was only fan-ta-zy.
    The WALL was too high,
    as you can see.
    No matter how he tried,
    he could not break free.
    And THE WORM ate into his brain.

    Hey, you!

    ...

    United we stand!
    Divided we FALL!!!
    1384) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1841958)
    Posted 13 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's wrong with the electoral college has an easy fix. The number of votes each state gets is the number of representatives it gets in the House.

    No problem gary.

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate

    gary... You stated "an easy fix"

    What!!!!!


    I did some reading in December on how we've had a few changes in how the calculations for apportionment are done.

    1) I did not see anything in it regarding how this involved amending the Constitution. The language used in the Constitution was apparently a little vague. Apportioned "according to their numbers". I believe they meant "proportional".

    2) It appears that, like the difference between an arithmetic and geometric mean, rather than using proportions as the general population understands them (something linear), we are using something geometric.

    Again, I am fairly sure that change did not involve an amendment and I'd like to know the logic, the pros and cons for doing the apportionment as we do now.
    1385) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1841930)
    Posted 13 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    File types I'm pretty sure I should not transfer:

    Application
    Application extension (.dll)
    JPG
    PNG
    Text

    Not sure:

    BIN
    CL
    VLAR
    1386) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1841927)
    Posted 13 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder if US ppl are ok with the current system. For me it seems strange that the candidate who gets less votes can still win.

    Not the first time.

    BTW: Bill Clinton only received 43% of the popular vote in 1996.

    I believe he was the Duly Elected President of The United States.

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    Correction over 49%, that was the year Perot got 8.4%.

    Correct, it was 1992 where he received only 43% of the vote.

    Therefore: Duly Elected (receiving less than a majority of votes both times) 'Bill' Clinton was President of the United States.

    Correct?


    Percentages Clinton: 43.0%, Bush: 37.4%, Perot: 18.9%.
    1387) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1841568)
    Posted 12 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Search for account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml on the old computer's hard drive. That'll ought to get you to the correct directory.


    Don't know if it is the search you provided me versus Wiggo's, or that I used the program Kuriuz to seach this time (hate Windows 10 searching), but I found it. Which file types should be moved?
    1388) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1841447)
    Posted 11 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Push...

    The Left is not Illogical. They are as hateful, as The Right they attack.

    I do enjoy their Intellectual Suicide in general. And now specifically excusing an Anti Semitic Post, in these Forums.

    As I said in another Thread: Just enjoy, for the Defense of Our Freedoms, their Dismissal and Destruction in these Forums and Internationally.

    Fun to watch!!!


    Wait. So, you enjoy watching as people hate one another? The damage it inflicts?
    1389) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1841425)
    Posted 11 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was it a Windows XP computer?


    No,
    1390) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1841299)
    Posted 11 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Mr Trump vowed to work with Russia "to solve some of the many... pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!""


    OK.

    "In a series of tweets on Saturday, Mr Trump said that having a good relationship with Russia was "no bad thing" and that "only 'stupid' people, or fools, would think that it is bad!""


    OK.

    The only ones against the above would Reagan (Evil Empire) and The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump. Who apparently have become Reagan supporters.

    Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.ha.

    Yes... The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump are sinking faster and faster. Fun to watch.


    Would you prefer to hear a more nuanced "Better relations with Russia would be good if it weren't for them being led by authoritarian Putin"


    Perhaps not.
    1391) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1841087)
    Posted 9 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No luck. Found the folder on the new PC and the workunits, but then searched for \ProgramData\BOINC in the external drive, with "show hidden folders" selected/ Could not be found.

    Maybe I'll try one more time with a different search engine, but if not .... . Is there a way to cancel the workunits so they're sent to someone else, rather than waiting for the due date to pass? (An online way to cancel, since of course I can't turn on the old laptop and cancel within BOINC.)
    1392) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1841083)
    Posted 9 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Mr Trump vowed to work with Russia "to solve some of the many... pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!""


    OK.

    "In a series of tweets on Saturday, Mr Trump said that having a good relationship with Russia was "no bad thing" and that "only 'stupid' people, or fools, would think that it is bad!""


    OK.

    The only ones against the above would Reagan (Evil Empire) and The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump. Who apparently have become Reagan supporters.

    Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.ha.

    Yes... The Left, The Progressives and the Anti Trump are sinking faster and faster. Fun to watch.


    Would you prefer to hear a more nuanced "Better relations with Russia would be good if it weren't for them being led by authoritarian Putin"
    1393) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1840883)
    Posted 8 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wouldn't it. at worst, toss the ones that had been started?

    Message 1817061


    Does it help to know that I do not currently (and did not, recently, on the dead laptop) have any of the optimized apps running?
    I do see in the post you linked that it would discard the 5 work units that were being worked on, but would anything worse happen?
    I now seem to recall I have to have BOINC not running when I make the transfer of files. Correct?
    I have the BOINC folders open both on the PC and the external drive. Which folder are workunits stored in? Is it a hidden folder?
    1394) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1840851)
    Posted 8 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wouldn't it. at worst, toss the ones that had been started?
    1395) Message boards : Number crunching : Transferring work units from a dead laptop (Message 1840766)
    Posted 8 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had a laptop die yesterday morning. I've bought a new PC and the drive from the dead laptop is removed and enclosed in an external drive case. Several years ago, someone told me how I could move the workunits I had already received to the now dead laptop to the new computer and it worked. Anyone remember how to do this?
    1396) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1840206)
    Posted 5 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [As far as the wealth gap... Looks ok to me as it is. You want more wealth? EARN MORE. People need to STOP expecting or feeling entitled to free handouts.


    What a JOKE.
    Hmmm. Let's see. Earn more. Well, I could give motivational speeches for Amway. (Shame you couldn't see the sarcasm a few days back and had to cite posting rule #2.) I could be a partisan hack journalist and get paid tens of millions of dollars. I could sing karaoke for millions of people on New Year's Eve ... errr, wait, lip-sync my own material and botch it and make booku bucks.
    SCAM!
    We aren't asking for handouts!!! We're already working!
    1397) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839889)
    Posted 4 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But.
    But.
    Aren't ethics EEEViLLL?
    And, besides, if we try to follow them, well, Bill BAD!!! Hillary BAD!!! I can do anything as a moderator because Slick Willy got seduced by an of age woman of consent and he fell for it!!! Bill BAD!!! So, it's ok if the rest of us are BAAAAD!
    1398) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839664)
    Posted 2 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone care to join my Quixtar rep team?!

    That will truly make America great.


    Well, it's really two companies. Mine and then Quixtar. Would you like to help me sell vitamins? You might be able to even make more than your full time job and therefore quit that job, selling only vitamins. If you work hard enough.


    ROFL... Amway...

    :P American Way :P ?


    Ummm, no, it used to be Amway, but now it's revamped and better than ever. It's Quixtar. Interested?
    1399) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839658)
    Posted 2 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some simple facts remain.

    1. The very rich people at the top are paying a lower percentage of their income than MOST of the rest of the population.

    2. Regardless of where what people live and whomever voted for whom, more Americans voted for the candidate that lost.

    So you fans of Trumpler can have your victory, but let's not forget the truth. And you that want to point at who's not paying their share of taxes?? Look up to the very rich first.


    (also that first chart Major posted would tell a disgustingly different story if it were broken into more brackets)



    Ex,

    On your point #1:

    The top 1% made 20.58% of the income in the USA in 2014, but paid 39.48% of the Income Tax that year.
    That same year, the bottom 50% made 11.27% of the income in the USA, but paid only 2.75% of the Income Tax.

    Your statement is not supported by the data.

    On your point #2:

    Totally Irrelevant. 'The People' do NOT vote for President, the State Governments do, according to the US Constitution. This has been upheld by the US Supreme Court. There are NO Federal officials elected by a national popular vote, nor should there be.

    The People in each State get a vote (currently, per the US Constitution) in electing their State's two US Senators.
    The People in each Congressional district in each State, per the US Constitution, get a vote in electing their district's member of the US House of Representatives.

    The People in each State get a vote in electing the various members of their State's Government. The People's elected representatives in their State's Government have the power to choose a method for appointing the electors in the Electoral College for choosing the President (and Vice President).

    The States DO hold, by custom, elections to choose which set of electors to appoint, but this has not always been so. There is NO US Constitutional requirement to do so (see any one of several SCOTUS cases... namely Bush vs. Gore (2000)). The decision is totally up to the State Governments how THEY want to do it.

    There is NO US Constitutional basis for ANY election for President, much less a National one. Any look at any sort of 'national popular vote' is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS.

    Want it to be different? Get the US Constitution amended. But since the State Governments have to approve any amendments (in one of two ways), good farking luck getting it ratified. The State Governments are probably not going to be receptive to any diminishment of their remaining powers, and besides this is a vital part of the checks and balances system between the US Federal Government and the Governments of the several States.

    Besides, The People's elected representatives make decisions for the People. This is the foundation of a representative democracy (republic). Any diminishment of this is an attack on our entire form of government. You want Direct Democracy (aka Mob Rule)? Then, there would not be a President, nor any other ELECTED officials, would there?

    As far as my first chart telling a different story if it were broken into more brackets... Yes.

    The 'bottom 35%' bracket... not only '0%' of income taxes paid, but that percentage is negative due to refundable credits such as the EITC. Many can get a 'refund' of thousands of US$ that they had not earned. You are correct. That IS disgusting.


    Are you prepared to join my rep team?
    1400) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839656)
    Posted 2 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone care to join my Quixtar rep team?!

    That will truly make America great.


    Well, it's really two companies. Mine and then Quixtar. Would you like to help me sell vitamins? You might be able to even make more than your full time job and therefore quit that job, selling only vitamins. If you work hard enough.
    1401) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839653)
    Posted 2 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone care to join my Quixtar rep team?!
    1402) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839479)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major: Guilford County, for example, went from having 16 early voting locations in 2012 to just one this year. Because of those cutbacks, voters had to wait several hours to cast a ballot. Turnout in Guilford County over the first few days of early voting was down 85 percent. Six counties across the state that cut polling locations saw turnout drop by at least 50 percent.


    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=%22Guilford+County%22+polling+stations&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8


    Oh??

    Looks like for 10 of the 15 days of early voting, Guilford County had 25 early voting locations open. Yeah, on the other 5, they only had one (the county courthouse, open until 5pm)... but on the last 2/3rds of the days of early voting, they had 25... most of which were open until 6:30 PM.


    http://www.myguilford.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EV-Schedule-Revised-092916.pdf

    I call BS on this accusation.


    Why "Oh?" me? I just provided a link to further links so you and betreger could discuss further. I made no claim on this issue one way or the other.
    1403) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839466)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major: Guilford County, for example, went from having 16 early voting locations in 2012 to just one this year. Because of those cutbacks, voters had to wait several hours to cast a ballot. Turnout in Guilford County over the first few days of early voting was down 85 percent. Six counties across the state that cut polling locations saw turnout drop by at least 50 percent.


    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=%22Guilford+County%22+polling+stations&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
    1404) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839463)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Early voted the first time ever this cycle.
    Clyde, IIRC, also early voted. [Yep, poor grammar on my part. ;)]
    Restriction? Elimination? BAH! HUMBUG!!!
    1405) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1839447)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ex that sounds like left wing hate speech.

    LOL.


    lulz!
    1406) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1839420)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No his own, he pontificates as if his absolutist views are THE ANSWER to societies ills.
    Pontification seems to be a major component of this thread but is only vilified when coming from the Conservative viewpoint............


    If.................you..............don't................like...........what.................I.....................post..................use...............Mr.................Filter......................Button.....................

    " : >

    JaundicedEye...

    Unlike you, me, and a few other posters. 'They' must censor idea's they disagree with. 'They' cannot compete in a world of ethical, moral, nor intellectual exchange of views.

    IE: Disgustingly accusing ALL who disagree with them of Xenophobia, Racism, Sexism, etc.

    Please don't encourage, the must be stopped Right Wing Speech Police, and their Cousins in Hate, the Left Wing Speech Police.


    Yes, Clyde. Thought Police doubleplus ungood... And they are running rampant around here.

    Freedom of thought and freedom of speech are meaningless... UNLESS one has the FREEDOM to think and say things that others either disagree with or are offended by.

    Orwell's 1984 is coming to pass... a few decades late. His 'Animal Farm', however, is ALREADY here.


    Oh, PUH-LEEEASE. Give us a BREA-AK!
    People choosing which people to converse with is NOT 1984. 1984 is government censorship.
    I don't agree with everything you say, or Bobby or OzzFan or Gary or Clyde, etc. ..., but I read and converse.
    I don't read, nor converse with, those who choose not to put me on ignore yet refuse to understand what I am saying and give it no thought no merit ... then put words in our mouths and minds. And throw insults. Those that frequently break, or are just on the border of breaking, the rules you yourself once had to enforce. I am sure many others that choose to employ the ignore button do so for similar reasons. NOT because we are seeking a safe space/echo chamber nor because we are the hateful ones.
    1407) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1839304)
    Posted 1 Jan 2017 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bernie, isn't there a rule about double-posts? Some of those "--"'s are in the same thread!

    Wiggo, care to PM some of those hidden then un-hidden posts?
    1408) Message boards : Politics : Since Bob has locked the Trump thread I will post this. (Message 1839233)
    Posted 31 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think if we weren't all so hung up on party associations, a lot of the angst would stop, and some actual good things for everybody would happen. I wish the political party system would go away, and we could vote based on the actual candidate.

    And that all eligible voters shows up.
    Unfortunately it's now a common trend not to vote.

    A lot of effort was put in by Republicans to stop certain groups from voting at all. It was openly part of their campaign strategy.


    Yep... Groups such as dead people. Also people ineligible to vote such as illegal aliens.


    "Funny, I don't feel illegal;." (Dillon, 1980.)
    1409) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1839232)
    Posted 31 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys are trying to hide the fact that you either want more government or you want less government.

    Worse.

    They are trying to hide the fact they believe they are Superior to The People, The Deportables, the Masses, or The Peasants. Who they believe must be controlled.

    They must call ALL who disagree with them Homophobic, Racist, Sexist, etc. Using name calling in an attempt to cover up their real beliefs, and stop any ethical, moral, and intelligent disagreement with their Beliefs.

    As I posted elsewhere. They are just, knowingly or unknowingly, following the George Lakoff 'Rules of Discussion and Debate'.




    No, I just call him a corruptible/corrupted authoritarian. A man who abused the power he briefly held, by altering approximately 2000 of his posts, well past the time we unclean masses would be allowed to do. He is hiding the fact that what he wants is big government that agrees with him, not less government. Virtually everything he says shows how he feels he is superior. He is tainted. He is not intellectually interesting, let alone intellectually honest. Couldn't even turn down modship the way I did.
    1410) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1839062)
    Posted 31 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If there had been no political party associated with Trump or Clinton, who do you think would have won?

    The very idea to vote persons instead of the political party values is to me totally disgusting.


    Really? I assume you're being tongue in cheek. The political party system seems to cause a lot of strife and negativity. I think if Trump and Clinton expressed their ideas on their own without all of our preconceived notions about what right or left is or should be, we would have had a more representative election.


    Political parties now are very close to being like football teams. No real reason to root for and cheer on any of them.
    1411) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1838923)
    Posted 30 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    --
    1412) Message boards : Politics : Hope and change...................... (Message 1837883)
    Posted 25 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's that "Lock her up" thingy working out for ya?
    How's that "Drain the swamp" thingy working out for ya?
    How's that "Wouldn't it be nice if we were, you know, friendly with Russia" thingy working out for ya?
    You betchya!
    When even Sarah Palin recognizes you've elected a crony capitalist Estab, you know there's problems ahead.
    1413) Message boards : Politics : Hope and change...................... (Message 1837782)
    Posted 25 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait 4 years to talk to you? Sure, I can do that. Meantime, enjoy another Estab and stop worshipping Trump as a savior. According to your religion, Christ is your one and only savior.
    1414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1837781)
    Posted 25 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woden just dropped by with some gifts.
    1415) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1835308)
    Posted 11 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Putin said the American people prevented WWIII by voting for Trump. (Implying if that felon had won the election...)


    Implying Putin would've attacked?
    1416) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1835034)
    Posted 9 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mark Twain. Where are you?.


    Woodlawn Cemetery.
    1417) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1835029)
    Posted 9 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do teachers choose to work in cities where they cannot afford accommodation, why not go somewhere else?
    If they did maybe someone would do something about it.


    Of course, one with work can always find other work.
    And it's always easy to then move to the place where the other work exists. I mean, moving is free and we use molecular transportation to do it, right?

    RIP John Glenn, who explored from the coast of the entire Earth and then, when serving, did not serve for the party of ancient grandness.
    1418) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1834423)
    Posted 6 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do these numbers, when applied across the whole country, actually mean anything.
    Surely the US median income, in one place means you have a comfortable life, and in another means you cannot afford a roof over your head. Even in the same place, the same income for households of the same size, will be viewed differently if one of the households owns their own house outright and the other has to pay a mortgage or rent.

    But that eventually leads to another conundrum, should Federal employees or people working for statewide companies, with the same qualifications and experience, be paid the same rate no matter where they live and work?


    As I have posted before ...:

    If you're carrying other debts and move because of finding a new job after a recession, it matters little if the new place has a lower cost of living,.
    1419) Message boards : Politics : Overtime (Message 1833857)
    Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What foolish person starts pumping out kids before they can properly provide for them? Not me.

    With no oxygen I managed to comfortably retired with a paid off mortgage and zero debt. Life is good.

    How are you oxygen breathing folks doing?


    Ah, I see.
    Glad you are able to choose to deep sea dive and go to the Moon without special apparati.

    P.S.-I have no children. Where did that come from??
    1420) Message boards : Politics : Overtime (Message 1833641)
    Posted 2 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is foolish enough to work for/be part of/stay with a company hell bent on screwing the employees?

    Maybe you but not me.

    Life is full of choices and I own mine.


    Have you owned your inability to breathe without oxygen?
    1421) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1833534)
    Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only people NOT able to use GUNS are the 'Law Abiding' Euro Citizens.............

    Nonsense.
    We have both a police and an army who are very able to use guns.
    And yes, we are 'Law Abiding' despite the fact that most citizens here have guns.
    The terrorist threat is however a minute problem considering all other threats in life.


    Why not take a video of you shooting your gun? Reference Seti@Home as you speak in your video. That way, he'll know it's you. :)
    1422) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1833531)
    Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the U.S.A., would a U.S. citizen be allowed to burn the flags of Nazi Germany and the U.S.S.R.? I want to buy one of each and make a video of me burning them. Maybe a Confederate flag, too, for good measure? :) Can this get me a year in jail or loss of my citizenship?
    1423) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How soon will planet 9 be found? (Message 1833512)
    Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?


    If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.

    I don't understand your reply.


    OK, stay in the heartland and don't find it. :)
    1424) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1833511)
    Posted 1 Dec 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it far fetched to come to the conclusion that those who follow the word of allah (as per the koran) is *incompatible* with those who follow the rule of law (as per our constitution)?


    LOL!

    Is claiming sharia law incompatible with U.S. law what you call xenophobia?


    LOL!

    Are you claiming that the U.S. should allow all people from all of the world free access into our country without any type of background check?


    LOL!

    Are you claiming that anything other than allowing anybody from anywhere in the world to come across our borders and set up all the problems they claimed to be running from here in the states... is xenophobia?


    LOL!

    Are you claiming that if we control our borders in any form or fashion, we are not the U.S.A.? We are Nazis?


    LOL!

    Just WTH are you saying?


    Don't you know? I'm coming for your way of life. DEAL WITH IT cry-baby sore-winner. LOLLOLLOL!
    1425) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : How soon will planet 9 be found? (Message 1833395)
    Posted 30 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On Tuesday Nov. 29, 2016 the science channel aired a program dedicated to providing us with what is known and speculated about the discovery of a new large planet in our solar system dubbed planet 9. Although the astronomers interviewed are all positive that the planet exists no one has actually located the object. Most of the program was filled with speculation about the composition and history of the planet. It is estimated that it is about 10 earth masses and can either be rocky, a small gas planet or icey like Pluto. Who knows?


    If it's there, we'll never find it if we stay away from the coasts.
    1426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1833393)
    Posted 30 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank Thor for Coastals!


    Daaang straight!
    1427) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1833392)
    Posted 30 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "How's that sore winner thingy working out for ya? You betcha!"
    1428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1833110)
    Posted 29 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank Thor for Coastals!
    1429) Message boards : Politics : Fidel Castro, Cuba's longtime revolutionary leader, dies at 90 (Message 1832863)
    Posted 27 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just another Criminal Leader dead. Good riddance.

    Unfortunately. The Cuban People's Ruling Class, as the Venezuelan People's Ruling Class, are still in Power.


    I would like to also say "good riddance" but ... .
    Though it was probably never specifically said by my elders while growing up, I believe somehow I was taught I should not wish anyone ill, not even any enemy.
    So, instead, I say, "Good luck, Cuba."
    1430) Message boards : Politics : Since Bob has locked the Trump thread I will post this. (Message 1832791)
    Posted 27 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My answer depends on why you ask:

    a) Because Obama thinks it's a good idea?
    b) Because Libertarians think it is a good idea?
    c) Because we couldn't possibly be smarter than someone writing for CNBC?
    d) Other?


    (A)? No.
    (B)? No.
    (C)? Depending on what sigma is (15 or 20?) and what it was the last time I took the test, my z-score for IQ is either 1,90 or approximately 2.53. Thus, I am supposedly smarter than 97.13% to 99.43% of the population. That does not mean I have all the information and background understanding to analyze that information that someone writing for CNBC does.
    (D)? Can't answer yes or no or depends because you didn't suggest a fourth option.

    Perhaps the best response is "epistemology". You've questioned Winterknight's apparent acceptance of certain things as facts. I am asking you why you clearly reject certain things as facts.

    I think we are in agreement regarding the overwhelming power corporations have over our lives. Yes? But, if so, do you then reject everything coming from "corporate thought"? Do corporations get everything wrong?
    1431) Message boards : Politics : Since Bob has locked the Trump thread I will post this. (Message 1832772)
    Posted 27 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How long before he realises that cancelling TPP will actually help China and be bad for the US, China's gain? The collapse of the TPP could be bad for everyone


    How long before you figure out you often parrot stuff thought up by a corporate "think tank"? Meanwhile, please explain to me why VW customers in the UK don't deserve a refund.


    And it makes him or those he quoted wrong because ... ?
    1432) Message boards : Politics : US Elections 2016 (Message 1831960)
    Posted 23 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First, start with the abusively biased and corrupt media.

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

    Yes, no question Rupert Murdoch media is totally corrupt.

    As all are.

    Point?


    Dear ... supporters: left and right corporate media are corrupt. Do not allow their corruption to go unquestioned. You're better than that.
    1433) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1831858)
    Posted 22 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-not liberal, not conservative, but surrounded by openly conservative people in academe.


    Bump!
    1434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A heartfelt good by. In memory of Celttooth (Message 1831689)
    Posted 21 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R.I.P.
    1435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Android Tablets and Displays (Message 1831480)
    Posted 19 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, between a friend that had a unused Chromecast dongle laying around and also input from Es99, I have both my Android tablet and Windows 10 laptop casting to my TV. If anyone else wants to try this and has questions, let me know.
    1436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Android Tablets and Displays (Message 1831292)
    Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody use an Android tablet? If so, have you "cast" the screen on to a larger display monitor? If so, how are you doing it?


    I have to check which version it is running when I get back home.
    1437) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1831291)
    Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Indocrination Centers aka K-12; College&Uni_Run By DEMLibProgressiveCOMMIESocialist Indocrinators Led by DEMLIbProgressiveCOMMIESocialist Unions&Pols Creating CRYBABIES Hugging;Cryin';Whimpering Into A Collapsing Future


    LOL! Yep! Math. Science. All that libby stuff.
    1438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Android Tablets and Displays (Message 1831268)
    Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody use an Android tablet? If so, have you "cast" the screen on to a larger display monitor? If so, how are you doing it?
    1439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1831255)
    Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hail Thor as I broke 3000000!
    1440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1831254)
    Posted 18 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blessed is Thor for he grants overtime.

    All Hail Thor.


    So much so I keep posting late in his thread! Or early?
    1441) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1831077)
    Posted 17 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Booored.
    1442) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1830980)
    Posted 17 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Borrred.
    1443) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1830901)
    Posted 16 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-not liberal, not conservative, but surrounded by openly conservative people in academe.
    1444) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1830900)
    Posted 16 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump protestor here. Busy at work.
    Quick scan of this thread finds much boring and ideological.
    PROTEST ON!
    1445) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1830668)
    Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wish I could still sit next to Clemens' study. Gilded Age 3 coming.

    1446) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1830658)
    Posted 15 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cher président élu Trump. Je suis un immigrant canadien-français illégal du Canada. Veuillez m'enlever. Je m'appelle *** ***. (Waving to Donald Trump, the NSA and Julian Assange.)
    1447) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829716)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YOU are NOT qualified to determine who IS qualified to EDUCATE (not MOLD) ADULT minds.
    YOU lost. We ALL lost.
    Get it through your head.
    BUH BYE!!!

    Hi Sarge...

    Students from multiple high schools in San Francisco march to City Hall in protest

    Youths attending multiple San Francisco high schools are walking out of class Thursday morning in protest of the results of the 2016 presidential election.


    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Multiple-high-schools-in-San-Francisco-march-to-10606389.php

    Apparently the Illiberal Educators of San Francisco. Aren't qualified either.

    Educating students, not Liberal nor Conservative Indoctrination. Is what Real Education is.

    Another example of why there will be a President Trump.


    I am aware of the protests.
    Protest is an American right. We heard plenty of it the past 8 years verbally and I've done some of it too.
    Doing damage to property or harming others is unfortunate to unacceptable.
    That is not what he is talking about. He's claiming that because I don't agree with him 100%, I am unfit to teach. Political differences and knowledge of a subject outside of politics, plus one's ability to teach it, are completely separate.
    Not only is it that, it's not that he thinks I don't agree with him 100%, he thinks he and I completely disagree, 100%.
    I have rarely seen him analyze.
    He has.
    He can do it.
    He seems to rarely do it.
    And now he's blocked.
    I'm glad you and I have found a way to speak to one another.
    He has never ever ever tried.
    1448) Message boards : Politics : Now What? (Message 1829679)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW Jerry Brown is STILL Governor!?


    It's complicated.


    LOL!!!
    1449) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1829678)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...there's a silent majority who'll be watching what he does also.


    Trump supporters have been anything but a silent group this election. They're also not the majority as the majority vote went to Clinton (by a small margin, but the majority nonetheless).

    Doesn't matter what percentage of votes Trump received.

    He is 100% President.

    BTW: How would many of Johnson's Libertarian Supporters would have voted for Trump or Hillary If he was not in the race? Johnson received 4,042,291 votes.

    Yes, many would have stayed home. But not all.


    I have heard, but not researched, that there was about a 50%-60% turnout. Which is disgusting, but we also know what forced voting looks like, right? If this is correct (has anyone else heard this reported? I heard of record turnouts in my area. Around 80%!) Even if they voted, would it have changed anything??? Oops, sorry, I'm an unrealistic ideologue, so of course they would have all voted against Trump.
    1450) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829618)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YOU are NOT qualified to determine who IS qualified to EDUCATE (not MOLD) ADULT minds.
    YOU lost. We ALL lost.
    Get it through your head.
    BUH BYE!!!
    1451) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829585)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go have some expensive alcohol and celebrate your win.
    1452) Message boards : Politics : Now What? (Message 1829584)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is now begging for a California Ãœber Alles joke! ;)

    (Though I'm guessing not a lot of people here listen to the Kennedys, or know the lyrics to the song)

    BTW Jerry Brown is STILL Governor!?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Ãœber_Alles

    Edit: And Laugh of the Day easily goes to WK. I really did laugh out loud :D


    The DEAD Kennedys? What about milkmen? How is the public image, lately?
    1453) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1829582)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, maybe, cry babies cry about cry babies crying. Why not quit crying about the cry babies and drink some expensive alcohol in celebration of you won? (Don't worry, most of the opposite of you/same as you cry babies will be drinking to drown their sorrows. while only a few will planning how to screw us all, and a smaller fewer will be working on how to figure out a way to make the screwing hurt a wee bit less.)
    1454) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1829528)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you are arguing that there are more constructive ways to deal with a disappointing outcome than setting garbage on fire and getting hit by a car, then PRIMITIVE deplorable I actually agree with you.


    Or ... someone is guessing where all non-Trump voters live and gets to decide who is a real American and who is not.
    1455) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829520)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those who should be dining on Crow today never seem to learn. 1st it was 'Trump will never be elected', now it's 'he can't be a good President'.

    Give me a break!

    Do you ideologues EVER admit you're wrong ?

    About everything.

    Sniffle, whine, cry, it's over.

    Trump is President, DEAL WITH IT!

    As B. Hussein Obama famously said after the last go round to Republicans, "Elections have repercussions'.


    The Establishment and their lapdogs genuflect at the Altar of Power.
    Buh-bye, genuflecter.
    1456) Message boards : Politics : Immigrant Migrant Refugee SUPREMACY-Is RACIST DEPLORABLE & TREASONOUS KKKOMMIE KKKryBABY KKKLOWNS with Their Continuing TREASONOUS Behaviours, will LOSE All Elections if They Keep Spouting TREASONOUS Free Speech (Message 1829519)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Really?
    1457) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829518)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which Previously Failed Alex Jones Predictions Will Alex Help Trump Bring to Fruition?
    1458) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829514)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ CLYDE & Alex: The truly sad thing is, Trump is not the anti-establishment the electorate think he is. He may not be a career politician, but he's part of the elite ruling class that's rubbed elbows with politicians all his life. He's even bragged about buying off politicians. He's always been one of them.


    +1.

    "It's the Main Street Economy, stupid!"

    I am trying to figure out if Trump's first act won't be economic, but instead something along the lines of:

    1) Reinstating "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".
    2) Getting creationism taught in schools.

    Something like that.

    Something that would make about 40% of his supporters, and 20% of the country, happy, but will be Establishment and having nothing to do with the "valid fears of the American people".
    1459) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1829512)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ CLYDE & Alex: The truly sad thing is, Trump is not the anti-establishment the electorate think he is. He may not be a career politician, but he's part of the elite ruling class that's rubbed elbows with politicians all his life. He's even bragged about buying off politicians. He's always been one of them.


    +1.
    1460) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1829494)
    Posted 10 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What a load of BS. You knew. You knew because EVERY SINGLE f'in poll told you that Bernie would have mopped the floor with this guy. Every. Single. One.


    Didn't the polls also say she would have beat Donald? How do we know those polls about Bernie would have been correct? It may have had the same outcome if what people are saying is true about the mood in the U.S.


    Ozz does have a point.
    On the other hand, we are now getting numbers that reveal Clinton pulled in less Blacks, Latinos and Millenials than did Obama in 2012. Maybe Bernie would have been able to hold on to them or expand their support?
    1461) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829456)
    Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those who should be dining on Crow today never seem to learn. 1st it was 'Trump will never be elected', now it's 'he can't be a good President'.

    Give me a break!

    Do you ideologues EVER admit you're wrong ?

    About everything.

    Sniffle, whine, cry, it's over.

    Trump is President, DEAL WITH IT!

    As B. Hussein Obama famously said after the last go round to Republicans, "Elections have repercussions'.


    Ideologue my a$$.
    1462) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829403)
    Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What you have feared, you have most likely brought about. Congratulations.
    Oh, hell, Winston. Julia.

    1463) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829397)
    Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Royally boned.
    1464) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1829315)
    Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Presidential election was a joke to me. My opinion was that both of the main candidates were terrible in their own ways. I am in a heavily partisan state anyway, so the choice I made wouldn't make much of a difference in the results. At least it's over now. Can only hope for the best, prepare for the worst.


    Time to become a prepper.
    1465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1829117)
    Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This week, can we skip Tuesday and go straight to Thor's Day?

    I agree.

    I submit the amendment to all SETIzens for viewing by Thor.
    1466) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1829098)
    Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would also prefer the criticisms against Hilary were based in reality.


    OK. Here's one:

    Are you prepared to watch her try and privatize Social Security?

    Based in reality?

    Defend Social Security against Republican attacks.[snip]
    Fight any attempts to gamble seniors’ retirement security on the stock market through privatization.

    (source)


    On a related note, suggesting Alex's fear could be reasonably founded.

    https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/manufacturing/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Cq422Tb4c
    1467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1829078)
    Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This week, can we skip Tuesday and go straight to Thor's Day?
    1468) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1828957)
    Posted 7 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW: American Businesses move themselves, and their Jobs to other, less taxing, less costly, and less regulation States, all the time.

    Case in point, MAGPUL a will known military, police and civilian manufacturer of accessories for firearms, most notably the ubiquitous 30 round AR 15 magazine used by armed forces the world over.

    Started in Longmont Colorado and for many years employed 600 people at very good wages. 2012-13 the Democratic controlled Colorado Legislature banned the possession of magazines capable of holding more than 15 rounds(without a vote of the people I might add), which was an arbitrary number pulled from someones nether regions.

    Magpul, which has an extensive line of other products, pulled it's entire operations from Colorado and moved 'up the road' to more friendly environs in Wyoming. The small city of Longmont lost 600 jobs overnight, the manufacturing tax revenue from a multi-million dollar company as well as losing local business income from those 600 employees.

    Two State Senators were recalled by petition drives and one resigned to avoid certain removal over that one measure. And a local economy was disrupted by an infringement on the 2nd Amendment by one State.


    If they don't care about your economy, guess what else they don't care about?
    1469) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1828647)
    Posted 5 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ....
    You didn't state what side of the center point your liberal beliefs are. Statist or Libertarian? or did you end up right on the center line?
    That is why I explained it in advance.
    That was what I was hoping for.
    That was my point.

    I came up as left liberal. Right on the centre line.


    Cool :)

    That tells me more about you. Thanks for answering.


    In keeping with (l)ibertarian principles, I will not take your little quiz.
    Even if I did, I would not report to you what it told me.
    1470) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1828551)
    Posted 5 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With The Bottom (Toilet?). Populated with Marxists, Progressives, Socialists, Global Capitalists, NAZI's, KKK, and others who believe in the destruction of Tolerance and Individual Freedoms.


    And the route sign on the 'road to the bottom'........



    Before you rotated it, the graphic pointed right. Note also the arrow is red. It is her way of saying "I'm really a rightist, except on a few social issues."
    1471) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1828548)
    Posted 5 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, now.

    I'm sure if Donald Trump had been made aware that Michael Forbes, his wife Sheila and Michael’s mother, Molly, were without running water that he would have gathered up his plumbing tools and jetted over to fix the pipe himself.


    So, you're saying Trump was Joe the Plumber's Apprentice?
    1472) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1828343)
    Posted 4 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On Oct. 22, it was reported 45% of Republicans would not accept the results if Trump loses while 16% of Democrats would not if Clinton loses. http://www.wcnc.com/news/politics/voters-wont-accept-election-results/340144453. I heard similar numbers this morning but did not memorize them before trying something. The one number overall was that of all people, 25% would not accept. I do not have numbers for those supporting Johnson or Stein refusing to accept results if they lose. Still, let's say Jonhnson and Stein are polling at a total of about 8%. Solve 0.45x + 0.16(0.92-x) = 0.25, where x represents the percent of Trump supproters. x = 0.354483, i.e., about 35%, which is about what I said a few weeks ago.
    1473) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1828158)
    Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, I see the problem.

    Nobel laureates are to academics as oscar winners are to actors--they both pat themselves on their backs for what they think is good. Problem is, neither one of them has held a real job on main street America and both think they know everything since they've read a lot of theory or played the part in a play.

    There is definitely a problem there, though it's unclear to me that it's the one you identified.


    Me, I'm just glad we have someone here that can judge what a "real" job is.
    1474) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1828157)
    Posted 3 Nov 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kong, you can't go back and start quoting from the federalist papers, especially in these forums. Those words were written by old white men with wigs, wooden teeth and owned slaves; therefore, they are no longer relevant. Besides, today's liberal no longer follows the intent of the law. Today's liberal only goes by the letter of the law. Today's liberal bends the letter of the law because in their minds, words change meanings based on what they think they need to force on everybody else today. And in many cases, just ignores the letter of the law if she's been in a position of authority before and/or if she's on the verge of being placed in another position of authority.

    [snip]

    --


    --
    1475) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1827645)
    Posted 31 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine?

    Probably and that might not be a bad thing. Maybe Coomey knows what what he's doing, how Machiavellian.



    Good points.

    Politics seems like a game of poker, with some chess strategy and the skill and luck of pool thrown in for good measure.


    More like checkers.
    And I see obstruction of Kaine as well, as the center rightist gets called a leftie commie pinko socialist by those even further right.
    1476) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827644)
    Posted 31 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I also know Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame start was defaced or destroyed.
    These actions are no more justified than the violent acts of Trump supporters.
    Will Wiggo and betreger acknowledge the two I pointed out?

    Sarge I do, and as you have stated that has nothing to do with the exception I take with Clyde's unfounded assertion.


    Thank you.
    Though I think the Turing Test comments go nowhere.
    1477) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1827636)
    Posted 31 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine?
    1478) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827605)
    Posted 31 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not justified, but then, you didn't respond to what they were talking about.
    When has Hillary thrown out ones of her own supporters for not matching the type of supporter she wants? What if I appeared, looking more and more like Phil Robertson as my beard grows. Are you suggesting I might be thrown out of a Hillary event?

    Sarge...

    Unlike others. Thank you for asking this question.

    My point was there are Thugs supporting both candidates. There are Racists (Anti Black/White) supporting both candidates.

    Both candidates refuse to condemn their own Racist's and Thugs.

    These accusations against the other Candidate's Supporters. Is just The Pot Calling The Kettle...


    I haven't followed your links.
    I do know, on the other hand, about the destroyed local GOP headquarters. (Was it in N.C.?) (On the other hand, Es noted it was a Dem that started the fund to get them headquarters replacement.)
    I also know Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame start was defaced or destroyed.
    These actions are no more justified than the violent acts of Trump supporters.
    Will Wiggo and betreger acknowledge the two I pointed out?
    Was your response to something they were currently discussing, though. I think not? Again. has any Hillary supporter been kicked out of a Hillary event?
    Is it wrong of me to wonder, after acknowledging unjustifiable violent acts have been committed on both sides, which side is doing more?
    1479) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827602)
    Posted 30 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll same about Hilary supporters.

    Clyde cite examples or retract your unfounded assertion.

    betreger and Wiggo... What Universe are you living in?

    After only a Few Minutes searching what was already reported here:

    Violent crowd attacks, insults homeless woman guarding Trump’s Hollywood star (VIDEOS)

    https://www.rt.com/usa/364631-crowd-attacks-homeless-trump/

    Some protesters even threw water bottles and water at the Trump supporters as they walked along a sidewalk leading to the Albuquerque Convention Center.

    Dereck Scott of Albuquerque was among those who were hit with a plastic bottle.

    Scott, who is in a wheelchair, said the attack was unprovoked and unnecessary. He says he has a right to vote for the candidate he prefers.


    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/report-trump-supporter-wheelchair-hit-plastic-bottles-protesters/

    Agitators pelt female Trump supporter with eggs, tomatoes in San Jose

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-agitators-pelt-female-trump-supporter-eggs-bottles/

    Kid Chased, Tackled at Trump Rally Had Been Beaten Before He Tried to Run From Mob

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/witness-white-kid-chased-tackled-trump-rally-beaten-tried-run-mob/

    Trump Supporters Attacked

    https://twitter.com/reneejon/status/766851862876135424

    Hmmmmm. Hillary Supporters attack a Person in a Wheelchair, a Homeless Women, a kid, etc.


    Not justified, but then, you didn't respond to what they were talking about.
    When has Hillary thrown out ones of her own supporters for not matching the type of supporter she wants? What if I appeared, looking more and more like Phil Robertson as my beard grows. Are you suggesting I might be thrown out of a Hillary event?
    1480) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827599)
    Posted 30 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    socialism kills...

    Trump is not Reagan.

    #1 - Reagan understood the Power of Words. Trump does not.

    #2 - Reagan was very focused regarding what he wanted. Trump is not.

    #3 - Etc., etc., etc.

    It is my belief, that those supporting Trump are just picking-and-choosing what they wish to believe Trump is for, and will do. And dismissing, as hyperbole, all other Trump statements.

    I believe that is a big mistake.


    "When I hear Trump speak, it's like he's a balloon whose end has not been tied off and when he says 'There was once a man from Nantucket" ... he doesn't know what he's going to say next, but his first line pushes him to his second line, so he has to say 'who always carried a bucket'."
    1481) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827149)
    Posted 28 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have some coffee and enjoy the sunrise, guy.
    1482) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827037)
    Posted 27 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do we think that what Trump wants? Or, that if that's what he wants, he's the one that can do it? Pretty much, no.
    Maybe not, but I'm sure Hiliary will give lip service and lies. Why not try something different? There's a reason the GOP Establishment fears Trump as much as the Democrats......
    Stop the irrational rejection of good points and good ideas just because someone that proposes them also believes something you don't agree with. Please.
    My point exactly. Compromise or 'the Art of the Deal' has been lost in Government, starting in the 2nd Bubba term. And has grown to stone wall proportions in the last 7 1/2 years.

    The USA was not built by intractable positions.


    "Try something different"? I'd vote for you before I'd vote for Trump.
    1483) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1827008)
    Posted 27 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The electoral reaction happening at the polls is due to three irrefutable facts.

    Fact 1 The system has been rigged for over a century to insure the rich get richer.

    Fact 2 In order to perpetuate the rigged system of wealth, those in power have made sure the very poor get free stuff.

    Fact 3 To pay for the free stuff the poor receive to prevent them from rioting, the working wage Americans get the bill.

    The Trump movement is about believing that upsetting that apple cart by 'draining the corrupt swamp' that is Big Government will change things for the better for everyone. Instead of giving the poor free stuff, Trumps economic plans give them a chance to move into middle and even upper class incomes through job training. This country needs Welders, Mechanics, HVAC Techs, Plumbers, Electricians, Stone and Brick Masons and those who are trained and skilled in those professions are capable of earning as much as Doctors and Lawyers without the liability factor.

    Wikileaks points out each day that Hiliary and Bubba have profited from that corruption and the proof is the Clintons don't deny the emails are true, they just discredit the source as Russian meddling.


    Maybe that's what a lot of his supporters want. (So do I!)
    Do we think that what Trump wants? Or, that if that's what he wants, he's the one that can do it? Pretty much, no.
    1484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1826832)
    Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall.

    Lengi lifi Þór!


    Sung by Robert Plant.
    1485) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : A lot of Galaxies (Message 1826829)
    Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What, if any, light (pun?) does this shed on expected amounts of visible matter and energy versus dark?
    1486) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1826813)
    Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Telling crowds that the 'numbers are looking phenomenal in Florida,' when he should be urging his supporters to work their tails off and get people out to the polls.". #DearDonald are you rigging it so you lose Florida???
    1487) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1826734)
    Posted 26 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Both my wife and I, just Voted Against Trump (Hillary received 2 votes).


    Dr. HO HUM aka Dr. DATA says: Illegals; Non-Citizens; Felons; DEAD PEOPLE, All Voting fO Madame Yoga. I Don't Hear So GOoD, but I Hear Lava Rockin' Rocks are Voting DEM/Libs/COMMIE etc etc etc

    To Be Part of A MOVEMENT, is A GOoD Thang. FRAUD and CORRUPTION, is Manna to DEM/LIbs/COMMIES/Socialists/Progressives

    Beat Beat Beat dat Illegal CORRUPT DRum DRum

    HowYA Likes Me Hat? ALL BIG BIG BIG Don, ALL DA TIME. DRAIN DA SWAMP in DC

    Legal Yap


    Neowp!
    1488) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1826671)
    Posted 25 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good googly moogly!
    1489) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1826632)
    Posted 25 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump will get 35% of the popular vote. 45% at best.
    Remember, I called in December that Trump had an 80% chance of getting the GOP nomination.
    People want change.
    But not the Trump change.
    1490) Message boards : Politics : Fraud, Suppression (Message 1826629)
    Posted 25 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shep Smith.
    1491) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825971)
    Posted 21 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    His possible victory.


    I'm thinking that even Donald has difficulty believing that a victory is possible.

    He's may be laughing all the way to victory.

    Reminds me of Reagan/Carter 1980.

    Carter had a 3-6 point advantage, two weeks before the election.

    Democrats, Liberals, and the Media are just smugly talking among themselves. They have no clue what is outside of them. They are just living in a La La Land.

    In 1980, there was only one presidential debate and that didn't happen until the 28th October. Like Hillary this year, Reagan got a large upsurge in support which was still ongoing a week later when the election happen on Nov 4th.

    Totally different scenario.

    Correct. But not my many points regarding this election.

    #1 - The Media's Support and Negative Attacks again Trump, means little. They are just 'Preaching to The Choir'.

    #2 - Both Nixon's 'Silent Majority' and Reagan's Support were vastly underrated, and possibly dismissed. As may be happening with Trump.

    #3- What both Trump's and Hillary's Supporters dismiss, is that BOTH are considered, by a majority of Voter's, as 'Untrustworthy'.

    They point this out about their Opponent, but dismiss or fail to acknowledge the Negatives regarding themselves.

    #4 - Hillary's supporter's smug and possibly incorrect beliefs. May result in a great shock on Election Day.


    I was quite young for Nixon's 1st term. I can speak to the "silent majority" of now: they haven't been so silent. But, in the last 1-2 weeks, they have been. Their arguments have decreased. I think some of them mifht be going to Johnson or staying home.
    1492) Message boards : Politics : Who won the last Presidential debate? (Message 1825772)
    Posted 21 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But if only he were a decent alternative.
    And 48 states weren't winner-takes-all.
    1493) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825614)
    Posted 20 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is your take on last night's Debate?

    My wife and I:

    #1 - Chris Wallace was the only Professional Moderator of this Election Season.

    #2 - Just a confirmation, that our choice is between 'The Ignorant' and 'The Incompetent'.

    Guess which is which :-)


    But he brought up the "Grab By the ..." issue.
    How unprofessional of him.
    He must be a member of the Secular Right.
    They must be opposed, as their cousins, the Religious Left, must also be.
    1494) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1825273)
    Posted 19 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder if the Russians can also recover all of Guy's deleted posts.

    Cheers.


    Google cache?
    1495) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825272)
    Posted 19 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Put down that bone you are gnawing and have a look outside. The sun is shining and it's a new day.
    Good grief.
    I now see clearly why we are having problems as a nation finding political compromises on local, state and national levels.
    Little wonder it's so difficult to get a dialogue going about actual issues.
    The baiting and twisting prevents actual communication.
    Enough already.


    Now you're getting it. :-D You can't have compromise or get a dialog going so long as one side levels insults at groups on the other side. You can't compromise with the other side if you disrespect them so much that you insult them for seeing things differently.

    (And I like my bone! It was a juicy steak when I started and now I'm savoring the flavor and relishing in what it once was.)


    +1!
    1496) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1825104)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Off=topic, but did you SERIOUSLY just denigrate the hand with which I write? I've seen no sign of you as a Christian fundamentalist, so where's this sinister view coming from about lefties being sinister???


    Off topic response. You should not let your sinister, dominating, Authoritarian Left hand slap your sinister, fundamentalist Authoritarian Right hand.
    Liberate your self from the fracus of slapping hands.
    Let Freedom and Liberty be your guide.


    My nearly balanced hemispheres would not allow me to do so.
    1497) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825103)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Enabler of a Sexual Assaulter - Hillary


    Still waiting for what definition of "enabler" is being used here. Seriously. Because I don't think it's one I am familiar with.



    I guess the implication is Hillary enabled her husband by either sticking with him or intimidating his accusers.


    To me, one plausible use of "enabled" would be: she knew it happened, without a doubt, and made excuses for him and even provided opportunities for him to continue doing so. Much like enabling an alcoholic.
    1498) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1825097)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can't get alot more left handed reporting than CNBC, (Except for sister MSNBC), So it is a little surprising to see the following:
    A new trove of interview summaries and notes from the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails lays out a series of allegations that could prove fodder for future attacks on the Democratic presidential nominee.
    The 100 pages, released Monday morning, include claims that Clinton "blatantly" disregarded protocol. Other claims include that a group of powerful State Department employees attempted to coordinate a document release, and that a department official asked for a "quid pro quo" related to the former secretary of state's emails.
    The documents, part four of four to be released by the FBI, include notes and interview summaries that may illuminate more about the bureau's decision not to recommend Clinton be prosecuted for her actions.
    Many Republicans have criticized that decision, but FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly insisted the move was apolitical.
    "I want the American people to know we really did this the right way. You can disagree with us, but you cannot fairly say we did it in any kind of political way," Comey said in July.

    hmmm.. what would the FBI consider more "political way" than timing than waiting until a few weeks before national election? Too late to allow critical inspection by the voters.

    but wait, there's more!

    Separately, one claim from the FBI documents that was receiving attention online was that one interviewee said there was a "stark difference" between Clinton's "obedience to security and diplomatic protocols" and that of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Clinton, the interviewee said, "blatantly" disregarded such protocols, including her frequent refusal to attend foreign diplomatic functions with the local ambassador.

    "This frequently resulted in complaints by ambassadors who were insulted and embarrassed by this breach of protocol," the interview summary said, adding that the subject claimed that "Clinton's protocol breaches were well known throughout Diplomatic Security and were 'abundant.'"

    —NBC News and Reuters contributed to this report.


    Critical inspection by the voters? What?!?
    Those that think she's corrupt, remain convinced.
    A small percentage might be swayed to that as a new opinion. No inspection.
    Some will vote for her knowing she's corrupt but, knowing the Ls and Gs have no chance and that Trump stands a chance of being far far worse.
    And then that small percentage of her acolytes.
    1499) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1825096)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Off=topic, but did you SERIOUSLY just denigrate the hand with which I write? I've seen no sign of you as a Christian fundamentalist, so where's this sinister view coming from about lefties being sinister???
    1500) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1825093)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All hail our corrupt governmental overlords... <spit>


    No, hail the corporations that have them in their pocket.

    There's a difference?


    I've said it before. I'll say it again. Those supporting Trump wish to remove the puppets and put in place a puppet MASTER.


    And I have said it before, and I will say it again...

    Yes, Trump is bad... VERY bad...

    Clinton, however, is worse... MUCH worse...

    Neither one have my support.

    It is a choice between a fascist dictator wannabe (Trunp)...

    And a psychopathic corrupt mobster (Clinton)...

    No matter which one wins, the USA is screwed... And it is a virtual certainty that one of them will... The electoral process in the USA has been corrupted by the two 'major' Parties, the D's and the R's... Yes, the process is RIGGED. Evidence: We have the choice between these two.... thugs.

    Sorry, but as much as some of us would like it if the L's or the G's won... ain't gonna happen. The D/R oligarchy is too firmly entrenched.


    For now.
    Enabled by Citizens' United and 48 states will winner-takes-all.
    1501) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825092)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At the close of a week that began with him trailing by seven points, Donald Trump still holds a slight lead over Hillary Clinton in today’s White House Watch survey despite a flurry of news reports alleging a history of sexual harassment on his part.



    Well, good for him, but look at it this way: If you or I were running for political office, do you think completely fabricated sexual misconduct allegations would be made against us? I don't think so. I think the opposing party would find some legitimate skeleton in our closets to rattle. These sexual misconduct allegations against Trump have real bones(pardon the pun). I just can't dismiss it and say it's better to overlook it, and get him in the White House than Hillary.

    The Real Problem?

    Both Sexual Assaulter Trump and The Enabler of a Sexual Assaulter - Hillary, are being judged, by the voter's, the same. As it should be.

    Perhaps that is why, despite 24/7 Anti-Trump (but not Hillary) Negative News Coverage. There doesn't appear to be 'movement' in the Polls.

    Both sides are correctly accusing the other of Gross Hypocrisy.


    Still waiting for what definition of "enabler" is being used here. Seriously. Because I don't think it's one I am familiar with.
    1502) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825091)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you say,

    you must be f---ed in the head to actually believe that your anecdotal experience must be the totality of truth and clear evidence that the media's polls are rigged and/or biased.

    Jumpin...

    You will notice the use of curses to personally attack, is the 'Last refuge of...'

    It is a Poster admitting they have lost the intellectual argument. Perhaps they never really had an intellectual argument to begin with.


    I think this is the 1st time Ozz ever used "demonstrating absurdity by being absurd". Perhaps coupled with another 1st, a bleeped curse. Perhaps some have not lost the intellectual debate but tire of having to repeat themselves every few months/years.
    1503) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1825090)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But is ~20% of the population enough to win even with a low turnout?

    Unfortunately the USA does not require a majority of registered voters to win. If it did a contest such as we have this time would be self destructive.

    The #nevertrump seem just as energized as the #voteforpervert crowd. They cancel each other.

    If the turnout is extremely low then all the down-race contests become unpredictable. We could end up with a super-majority for either party. Likely the opposite of the presidential winner.

    That is what is difficult for a people living under a Parliamentary System of Government to understand.

    Voters 'Split' their votes regarding President, Senate, House of Representatives, State Governor's and State Legislator's.

    Most of the State Governors and Legislative's, US Senate and House, are Republican. At the same time they voted for a Democrat President.


    I expected a bit more nuanced response.
    Some do split.
    Then, not long after they get into or back to office, Congress has, what, a 9% approval rating?
    Then, the much smaller percentage that votes in the "off" years swings one or both houses to the other side.
    1504) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1825083)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But the FBI decided not to prosecute her, so it can't be that bad, right?
    I certainly hope that was sarcasm coming from someone as intelligent as you Gordon.

    Since undocumented accusations seem to be the norm in this campaign here's something interesting making the 'rounds'.


    We ... control.”


    No sources quoted, but it's out there.


    Seriously? And she must've found all the hidden hot mics and slammed them to destruction.

    This is also includes any ZOOM recorders, small and easy to hide.

    C'mon folks, there are better things to attack her on than unsubstantiated claims. Same goes for Trump.
    1505) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1825082)
    Posted 18 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All hail our corrupt governmental overlords... <spit>


    No, hail the corporations that have them in their pocket.

    There's a difference?


    I've said it before. I'll say it again. Those supporting Trump wish to remove the puppets and put in place a puppet MASTER.
    1506) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1825039)
    Posted 17 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/15/multi-media-journalists-face-jail-time-for-reporting-on-north-dakota-pipeline-protest/

    Still think that fears of Government corruption are groundless?

    Two reporters are facing jail.. one for 30 years, one for 45 years... for filming a protest against an oil pipeline where some of the protesters were injured by pipeline personnel, and interviewing some of the protesters.


    All hail our corrupt governmental overlords... <spit>


    No, hail the corporations that have them in their pocket.
    1507) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1824996)
    Posted 17 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the 80s, people feared listening to hard rock & heavy metal music would lead to:

    1) Disrespect for authority.
    2) Depraved sexual and violent acts.
    3) Suicide.
    4) Etc. ... .

    Don't think we hear much about that these days.
    So, if it was a valid fear, why does a valid fear sometimes become invalid?


    All fears are valid, to those that have them.


    Why does a valid fear (to someone that has it) sometimes become invalid (to the person that use to have it)?
    1508) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1824992)
    Posted 17 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the 80s, people feared listening to hard rock & heavy metal music would lead to:

    1) Disrespect for authority.
    2) Depraved sexual and violent acts.
    3) Suicide.
    4) Etc. ... .

    Don't think we hear much about that these days.
    So, if it was a valid fear, why does a valid fear sometimes become invalid?
    1509) Message boards : Politics : Fears of the American People (Message 1824970)
    Posted 17 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From this study/poll, here are the people I FEAR the most.
    The "personal fears" these people have require me to fear them.

    Clowns Personal Fears 7.8
    Zombies Personal Fears 10.2
    Needles Personal Fears 16.7
    Reptiles Personal Fears 33.2
    Ghosts Personal Fears 8.9
    Blood Personal Fears 11.7
    Insects/arachnids Personal Fears 25

    Q. Do people who fear zombies and ghosts vote?


    Now, now, Clyde and Kong have told us these are valid fears.
    1510) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824346)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The 2nd... fights sexism by being sexist.
    ...
    I call BS on the 2nd-wave radical feminists.

    When was the date of your sex reassignment surgery?

    Or cease telling other humans what they are supposed to feel.


    My statement is not a feeling, but a fact.


    To misquote Mrs. Mary Cooper, also a Texan, "And that's how you feel about it."
    1511) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824345)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WTH? I finally get a chance to post and nothing from anybody else in an hour? Did you all take on new employment?
    1512) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824344)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald Trump caught saying he will date 10-year-old girl 'in ten years' in new video

    I think I threw up in my mouth a little..


    Daaang, almost as good as when I referred to "The Waterboy" when talking with Chuck 10 years ago. OK, maybe better. :)
    1513) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824343)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is a difference between feminism, and 2nd-wave radical feminism.

    The first fought for women's civil rights under the law, and was successful (in the USA) with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution on Aug. 18, 1920.

    The first fought sexism.

    The 2nd... fights sexism by being sexist.

    [...]
    No... I call BS on the 2nd-wave radical feminists.

    In other words, good feminists only fought for equality with men one or two times a year (at most). bad feminists want equality the rest of the time. Outrageous.


    Check out Jaclyn Glenn (liberal, atheist, pro-LGBTQ) as she goes against Anita Sarkeesian, then.
    1514) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824342)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fact of the matter is all of the sniping is just cover for lack of honest, workable plan to correct past mistakes.

    60% of the voters are wrong to blindly support the Authoritarian Liberals and Authoritarian Conservatives.

    40% are bright enough or honest enough to realize the other 60% are full of crap and are willing to lie and believe lies in order to gain the power to tell everyone else how to live and what to do.
    Further the 60% are blithely willing to destroy their own country and their children's future for their own selfish satisfaction of wielding political power.

    100% of us loose thanks to the unending sniping and bickering of the 60%.


    Sorry, I'm lose-ing track as to where you came up with those percents.
    1515) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824341)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Children...
    You, and The Capitalist Ruling Class incorrect belief, that they are more intelligent than The Proletariat. Will ensure a Trump victory.
    Question: Where is the vaunted intelligence of those who cannot understand this?
    Answer: I have looked and looked, and haven't found it. It must be very well hidden :) :) :)

    CLYDE.
    As in all your posts you make sure that you get a litany of insults in before you say anything.
    Insults about the last poster, against female posters, and claims that you, an old man know better.
    Well I'm an old man, and call your BS.

    You say that you'd like to see Joe Biden on the ticket.
    As if Joe Biden would even agree with you on anything.
    Joe Biden does a have a "Moral Compass", has fought for Women's Rights, and supports Hillary Clinton.
    What is your "Moral Compass", and have you ever fought for the rights of Women?
    Your attacks against Es99 are pathetic at best.


    There is a difference between feminism, and 2nd-wave radical feminism.

    The first fought for women's civil rights under the law, and was successful (in the USA) with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the US Constitution on Aug. 18, 1920.

    The first fought sexism.

    The 2nd... fights sexism by being sexist.

    Case in point: the Candidacy of H. Clinton for President of the USA in 2016.

    No matter how much voters that happen to be men lay out a case for not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy on grounds of not liking H. Clinton's political stances, or disapproving of H. Clinton's behavior (violating laws all over the place) a 2nd-wave radical feminist will tend to accuse (at least in my experience both here and elsewhere) the man of being sexist... not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy solely because H. Clinton is female.

    It does not matter how willing the man would be to vote for a woman for President that they thought would do a good job. Personally, I can think of several this election cycle (Condoleezza Rice, where were you?). Sadly, either they did not run, or they got defeated in the primaries.

    But noooo... not supporting H. Clinton's candidacy gets men branded a sexist by the 2nd-wave radical feminists. sigh...

    No... I call BS on the 2nd-wave radical feminists.


    Jaclyn Glenn for President, 2036!
    1516) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824340)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

    Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

    The excuse of 'years after...' cannot be used as Trump himself said of his Bill Clinton allegations, by saying accusers should be believed and that decades-old misdeeds matter.


    In 1998, didn't Trump call Paula Jones a fat looser? Er, loser?
    1517) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824339)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

    Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....


    Yes, why did they wait so long to accuse Cosby?
    Oh, that allegation that Trump raped a teen? That the mainstream didn't quite say much about? The trial's been scheduled.
    YAP!
    1518) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1824338)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Australia must be proud of the important legislative work done by the Upper House of the NSW parliament.


    "Donald Trump for President"? Australia?
    Oops, don't wanna go Saul on y'all! Carry on!
    1519) Message boards : Politics : Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate... (Message 1824332)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Been there, done that. Art of debate? How about "immoral debate tactics?" Are you going to be the logical fallacy police in here now? I'm curious to see what your results will be. I'm going to guess it'll be the same as my results.

    What results? What are you going on about?

    Give it a read. It is just a short paper / guide to debate tactics and methodology. It has NOTHING to do with morality. Nothing was said about policing. Nobody suggested that there were going to be judgements.
    Go on now. Give it a good look see.
    It may even enlighten you to examine your own tactics and how to better use them... if you were to be bothered to read and study up on the paper.
    Perhaps you may even be able to correctly identify other's debate tactics used against you. That would be helpful, would it not?


    Didn't you knoe, it's all Saul?
    ALl Saul Alinsky's fault?
    Batman robbing Robin,
    Peter robbing Sarge to pay Paul.
    Sarge keeping it light.
    Guy (socialism kills) last name omitted, call
    calling me an Alinsky acolyte.
    :)

    NOT!
    1520) Message boards : Politics : "How about "immoral debate tactics?" (Message 1824331)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Been there, done that. Art of debate? How about "immoral debate tactics?"

    As requested by socialism kills.


    Why? (Jams to Stryper's "To Hell with the Devil" while awaiting the answer from either.)
    1521) Message boards : Politics : U.S. VP debate (Message 1824330)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bill Weld had this to say about the second farce of a VP "debate".

    "Wish I had been there. Unfortunately, there was a gaping ideological void left between two candidates representing polarizing tickets.

    While unconvincing to those of us who have heard it before from Republicans, Gov. Pence presented a bit more fiscal restraint. But, he enthusiastically embraced a social agenda that makes most Americans uncomfortable.

    Senator Kaine, on the other hand, rightly rejected the Trump social and immigration extremes, but is saddled with Ms. Clinton’s spending and tax plans.

    That left tens of millions of nonpartisan Americans without a comfortable voice on the stage, a voice they would otherwise hear, and have, if the debates were not limited to the partisan extremes."


    Johnson and Weld have records.
    They'd be more fiscally conservative (draconian?) and provide a wink and a nod to civil liberties.
    1522) Message boards : Politics : U.S. VP debate (Message 1824328)
    Posted 14 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would have liked to hear what Bill Weld would have said.
    I have a feeling it would have been alot more interesting than the half-truths I heard tonight.
    Too bad this is what the media and the voters get to hear instead of reason and truth.

    That Cain guy really blew it. What an Clinton A$$ kisser apologist... My opinion.
    Pence had very little to add to what we already know about Trump.
    Bill Weld would have said plenty about the issues they stepped around.


    Gordon acknowledged it was a SHOW.
    Does how they said things matter? Yes, some.
    KAINE's demeanor sucked. No kidding.How much did any of you pay attention to what was really said, POLICY wise?
    1523) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823866)
    Posted 13 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary used the term "consenting adults" earlier. Good point,

    Think it was a quote, but it is something I would point out.

    Wait, no, one was even worse: a pedophile.

    Yes, something about a pageant owner of a miss teen pageant walking into a dressing room full of nude underage women because he is the owner*. Seems the pageant owner said he did it. Seems former contestants say he did it. Pedophile! Is there a statute of limitations on that?

    *owner of them?


    I was referring to Dennis Hastert.
    1524) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823837)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you deny what bill did and why do you deny hillary's actions to support what he did to (to name a few) Broaddrick, Willey and Jones?

    Bill. Is. Not. A. Presidential. Candidate.

    I have yet to see any evidence of what Hilary allegedly did apart from the usual mudslinging from the usual sources.

    The attempted impeachment of Bill when he was President was not for sexual assault, but for lying under oath about his affairs (it went no where despite Republican best efforts). Trump has admitted to sexual assault before he is elected. I am quite positive that all those people who condemned Bill and launched investigations about him will now condemn Trump before he gets a chance to do more damage. Right?

    Or is that the real double standard here? It's OK for Trump to do it, because Bill is alleged to have done it? That argument belongs in the school play ground.


    Gary used the term "consenting adults" earlier. Good point,
    The House did impeach WJC while at the same time 3 are now known to have been engaging in similar behavior. Wait, no, one was even worse: a pedophile.
    I fail to see how Hillary's mudslinging back then equates to enabling: I would've thought enabling was akin to setting up situations that would make it easier for WJC to cheat.
    1525) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823818)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great last audience question: "Name one thing you respect in the other candidate."

    Hillary complimented Trump and how his children have grown up. Trump had a genuine smile with this.

    Trump complimented Hillary as someone who is tenacious and won't give up.

    Nice positive way to end the debate.

    I think they both kept their ground.


    The opening and ending questions were lousy.
    In the end, "It's the Main Street Economy" ... .
    1526) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823815)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone?
    Why do you dislike General George Clinton so much?


    Personally I LOVE Funkadelic............



    Not that George.
    The 1700s. General.
    1527) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823814)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Locker room talking is not criminal.

    Show your proof that Trump was lying when he said he did it!

    Gary...

    Show your proof that the females alleging Rape and Sexual Assault, by Hillary's husband. Are lying.

    Gary...

    Show your proof that Hillary did not threaten a female, who said she was raped by her husband. A criminal act by Hillary.

    The silence by Hillary supporters is shocking.

    P.S. Their silence is not really shocking. Just true to type.


    There aren't many here.
    Those here that will vote for her, are not her supporters, and will be vomiting, like you.
    1528) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823771)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My guess is many of the Republicans that are also on the ticket are going to have to withdraw their support for Trump and put out ads asking with instructions on how to split their votes. Or else the Senate will swing to the Democrats as well, the polls prior to this latest, suggest the Senate race is already on a knife edge.


    This, as I have said here before likely was Trump's plan all along.


    I just can't believe Trump's candidacy has been a conspiracy to get Hillary elected.


    I can.
    But he played the racism and xenophobia part far better than expected. He must've studied the opposition very closely for years to emulate them so closely.
    1529) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823770)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can educate the ignorant, if they are willing to learn. Stupidity is a whole other world. Donald is like a Doctor with no 'bedside manner'. He says you need to lose 100 pounds and quit smoking. It pisses you off, but you know he's just telling you the truth(a concept unknown to ANYONE named Clinton).


    Anyone?
    Why do you dislike General George Clinton so much?
    http://www.biography.com/people/george-clinton-9251272
    1530) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1823747)
    Posted 12 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our only hope for the immediate future is that Trump gets elected and shortly afterward gets impeached, thus propelling Pence into the White House.

    Agree.

    All the past Republican and Democrat Candidates. Hillary, her VP Clown and Trump, included.

    Pence is the only Presidential one.


    Seriously? Theocrat Pence?
    1531) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1821181)
    Posted 2 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    P.S.-to all libertarians ... small government sounds nice, but do you really believe small government can fight all these fat cats? Do you say, on a similar issue, that with what Wells Fargo did in recent years, the ONLY protection is just the individual being more vigilant???


    Well, since the 'fat cats' exist primarily BECAUSE of big government, yes.

    The price of freedom (and liberty) is eternal Vigilance.


    Roughly speaking, prior to the Enlightenment, we were dealing with totalitarianism in the hands of a very few. I disagree with your assessment that they ONLY exist due to big gov't.


    I did not say 'only'... But still, big government is a huge enabling factor in the existance of large(r) numbers of fat cats.

    Fat cats ... do you mean the KING? Or the Barron? As you should realize there were many more of them back years ago as each city - castle - had one as the head.


    Each a small gov't for a small area.
    1532) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1820974)
    Posted 1 Oct 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    P.S.-to all libertarians ... small government sounds nice, but do you really believe small government can fight all these fat cats? Do you say, on a similar issue, that with what Wells Fargo did in recent years, the ONLY protection is just the individual being more vigilant???


    Well, since the 'fat cats' exist primarily BECAUSE of big government, yes.

    The price of freedom (and liberty) is eternal Vigilance.


    Roughly speaking, prior to the Enlightenment, we were dealing with totalitarianism in the hands of a very few. I disagree with your assessment that they ONLY exist due to big gov't.
    1533) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1820921)
    Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The media and politicians answer to the Big Businees Boys.

    You forgot to mention Citizens United!


    SCOTUS, (US supreme court), has become a collection of lifetime political devotees that are appointed to their post after spending their career running for office in mostly judicial positions.

    In 2009 - 2010 Citizens United sought an injunction against the Federal Election Commission in reference to creating a movie about the Clintons and whether or not it was subject to "application of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act."

    In their decision, the SCOTUS literally tore up the 1st ammendment and with a wink and a nod, made it possible to continue corporations ability to contribute vast sums of cash to a candidate through PACs (Political Action Committee), rather than directly.
    The majority maintained that political speech is indispensable to a democracy, which is no less true because the speech comes from a corporation.
    Hence, Corporations are people too, with full first ammendment rights.
    (Do corporations have the same rights as the citizens? 2nd ammendment? 5th ammendment?)
    In a separate concurring opinion, Chief Justice Roberts, joined by Justice Alito, emphasized that the Court handles constitutional issues as it attempts to "avoid constitutional issues when at all possible".
    Wait, what??? I thought that's what they were supposed to do; or am I not understanding the judicial DoubleSpeak?
    The american people thought that they had ruled to limit corporations influence on political campaigns. Instead the effect was to throw open the restraints, (except for reporting requirements), on unions and corporations contributeing to PACs dontating all or part to a single political campaign.


    I have never heard it said that many US citizens thought it was a restraint.

    This has enabled Clinton, et.al. to create HUGE war chests to blanket the airwaves and media with slanted disinformation. This money feeds the news/entertainment industry and furthers the nefarious activity of the Debate
    Commission to sustain the Republicrats and Demopublicans in their single domination of american politics.


    Something you seem to have overlooked, though it doesn't make it much better.
    Citizens United did it because of Clinton's campaign in 2008. They were anti-Hillary most of all. What does that tell you about those in Citizens United and those on the SCOTUS that allowed it through?
    No use crying over the spilled milk that it was anti-Hillary and she now takes advantage of it.

    P.S.-to all libertarians ... small government sounds nice, but do you really believe small government can fight all these fat cats? Do you say, on a similar issue, that with what Wells Fargo did in recent years, the ONLY protection is just the individual being more vigilant???
    1534) Message boards : Politics : America's Shame (Message 1820726)
    Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do remember telnet, gopher and ftp.

    Before pichures. Har! ;^)

    www.whitehouse.gov (1993 I think) one of the first websites with images I went to and was instantly hooked after nothing but text. ;^)


    Was able to view jpgs in 1995 on an 8086.
    1535) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820725)
    Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Qay I see it: we've had supply side economics, with just slightly higher corporate taxes during the neo-liberal years.
    1536) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1820713)
    Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Newsweek allegation that Trump did business with Cuba in 1998, http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cuban-embargo-castro-violated-florida-504059?rm=eu

    Possible confirmation by Trumps campaign manager, https://thinkprogress.org/trump-manager-conway-admits-illegal-cuba-spending-c53ab74ff200#.3m3ct6nvy

    So should the authorities take Trumps advise on felons, and lock him up.

    Do they have Coed Cells?

    Donald and Hillary can then share one.

    :) :) :)


    Copy cat! :P
    1537) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1820685)
    Posted 30 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems like the media and the two major party machines are in cahoots.


    Yes. They are.

    Well, who pays the media bills?


    The commercial sponsors want their ads run to big audiences, so they pay the price, but major news media today are so intertwined with entertainment companies, they can be manipulated too easily by politicians in power.


    You mean their donors, the true ruling class.
    As one of the donors, Donny cannot be accepted as an outsider.
    It's replacing the puppets with a puppet master.
    1538) Message boards : Politics : America's Shame (Message 1820657)
    Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We taxpaying US Citizens paid for it to be invented.

    Where is Al Gore in all this?

    Any of you old enough to remember a bang path?


    Old enough or have been online long enough?
    (I probably actually telnetted and used e-mail as early as '85, but not cognizant of what it was at the time.)
    I do remember telnet, gopher and ftp.
    1539) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820582)
    Posted 29 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge,

    When you say, "Wahhabism: How Saudi Arabia Exports Ultra-Conservative Islam," you are adding to the confusion of the symbols we use to communicate.

    You should at least add some sort of caveat to that statement.

    Because I say I'm conservative, many people will now think that I want to oppress women, execute people for the crime of being homosexual, and chop the hands off thieves.

    No, they will think you want to jail people for 50 years for smoking some weed, jail them for burning a flag, jail them for doing any work on Sunday, refuse trans people a restroom, bar all knowledge of contraception ... execute, yes you are in favor of capital punishment, just not pubic where the people might see it and rise up against you.

    bobby,

    Look at the history of the democrat party.

    Let's. Until the 1960's all the southern states were rabid democrat. Then in the late 60's the Democrats dropped their racism and George Wallace broke off the DixieCrats from the Democrats. By the 1990's all of those racists had left the Democrats forever and joined the Republicans, calling themselves TEA. They had to have some place to spread their racist filth.

    They are the ones who who didn't want to free the slaves. They are the ones who had to be defeated in our civil war. And they are the ones who wrote the Jim Crow laws.


    Did Guy SERIOUSLY try to go there with that one?
    Wow.
    Don't tell me about blurring lines.
    1540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nitro coffee? (Message 1820332)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have heard that Irish coffee can explode.
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2015/mar/12/how-to-make-perfect-irish-coffee-st-patricks-day-recipe


    Seriously, be nice to Sirius.
    1541) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1820329)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nickleback is touring?
    1542) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820321)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note the complete lack of ways to discredit the claim "Islam is Conservative".
    Further, fiscally, probably Hamas (?) is closest to acting socialist (not communist, to the one that complains about blurred definitions but is most guilty). I would not be surprised if most Islamic countries are also fiscally conservative.

    Gosh OPEC you think?


    That's in the back of my mind without having looked up any specifics on the fiscal/economic policies of any Muslim countries.

    More further to the disagreer: we tend to hate that in others which we hate in ourselves, thus the rabid dislike of Islam from ... ?

    Note to all: if you are on my ignore list, it's not what you say, it's that you say it like an ... .
    1543) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820317)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note the complete lack of ways to discredit the claim "Islam is Conservative".
    Further, fiscally, probably Hamas (?) is closest to acting socialist (not communist, to the one that complains about blurred definitions but is most guilty). I would not be surprised if most Islamic countries are also fiscally conservative.
    1544) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1820316)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bathyscaphe?

    Yep, that's just what I thought!



    Jacques Cousteau?
    1545) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1820298)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Borrow and spend instead!
    1546) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820264)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wahhabism: How Saudi Arabia Exports Ultra-Conservative Islam.

    5:04 in Saudi Ambassador Defends Law Declaring All Atheists Terrorists. Saudi Arabia (Wahabi'ists) behead atheists, drug dealers, drug users, being supposed witches/sorcerers. Yeah, they sound so liberal and so (if Al Jazeera really is a propaganda arm of Saudi Arabia) ... ? WTH?
    1547) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1820257)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which ever way you believe, the American People lost. Big Time.


    Bigly.
    1548) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820253)
    Posted 28 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No offence but I would give Al Jazeera more credit if the polls where done by them than any of the news services you mentioned Clyde :)

    Why?

    They are Liberal/Left.
    Worse, they are the wholly owned mouthpiece for the Radical Islamic movement. Cut from the whole cloth of Wahabi propaganda.

    Al Jazeera, also known as JSC, is a Doha-based state-funded broadcaster owned by the Al Jazeera Media Network, which is partly funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar. Initially launched as an Arabic news and current affairs satellite TV channel, Al Jazeera has since expanded into a network with several outlets, including the Internet and specialty TV channels in multiple languages.

    Al Jazeera has been called a propaganda outlet for the Qatari government and its foreign policy, by analysts and by news reporters, including former Al Jazeera reporters.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera

    Too bad they closed Al Jazeera America, the lack of commercial advertising support would have bankrupted Qatar.


    You seriously think Wahabi'ism is a leftist movement?
    1549) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1820095)
    Posted 27 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The jury is still out, they decided to try on an other
    round before they come out with their final announcement.



    edit:
    I see cracks in the wall....


    T4ump w2ould slump and pass out before the round finished.
    1550) Message boards : Politics : Who won the 1st Trump/Clinton debate? (Message 1820090)
    Posted 27 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One thing Trump has brought up previously, is Stamina.

    But wasn't it Trump that looked tired and a little confused at the end.


    He was a test subject for Viagra 50 years ago.
    1551) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820060)
    Posted 27 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there significance that she's wearing red and he has on a blue tie?
    1552) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1820055)
    Posted 27 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, there is anecdotal evidence that a dollar is worth more to a poor person than to a rich person.

    No that has been documented for many decades.
    But that's a tired argument. This makes the assumption that a poor person *can't* increase his income.

    That is a straw man argument.
    Reagan, despite a democrat controlled congress, demonstrated empirically that supply-side economics improved the lives of millions.

    The income gap which has occurred since then contradicts your assertion.
    Guy you should take a course or two in micro-economics then you might be able to at least lucidly discuss the economic issues which you are so concerned about.


    Hmmm, I hear other conservatives discuss the velocity of money. But not Guy?
    1553) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1819961)
    Posted 26 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My Prediction in the farce debate between the two most hated candidates in US history:

    Clinton will be declared winner because the questions will be geared to her answers.

    Trump is at a disadvantage of being 1 against 2. Holt and Clinton are on the same team and Lester has NO intention of asking relevent questions. The questions will be geared toward creating theater.
    Trump will have trouble containing his anger when Clinton baits him with half truths and rudeness.

    Despite stronger polls than Ross Perot, and now with a petition signed by over 1,000,000 voters, the R and D controlled Debate Commission will not allow Gary Johnson to show the viewers what a rational, even tempered and highly qualified candidate should look like. They really don't want their two to look so much worse than they already do.

    The bought-and-paid-for national press & media will announce that H. Clinton wins the debate.


    Really?
    You did catch the "Commander in Chief Forum", did you not?
    1554) Message boards : Politics : Other independent candidates for U.S. President... (Message 1819786)
    Posted 25 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A bit surprised you haven't heard about McMullin.



    Has he been discussed? I just draw a blank there.


    He's a Republican and, IIRC, a Mormon from Utah. I won't guarantee this, but it smells like Romney and the never Trumpers trying to stop Utah from going to Clinton or Johnson.
    1555) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819785)
    Posted 25 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My opinion is that these arrogant, overpaid sportsmen should be kneeling and kissing the ground they walk on for the blessing they have to be able to play a game for millions of dollars in this great country.
    Instead, they come off like snot nosed little children.
    The NFL should immediately add a clause to all contracts that proper respect for the national anthem is mandatory behavior at all publicly televised events.

    And if anybody does not, immediate suspension is in order.

    I am not saying that they cannot express their opinions off of the playing field.
    That is certainly their right.

    But, on the field, they should be expected to honor this country and those who have paid with their lives to make it our home.

    Ding Ding!

    We have another winner!


    Not like no one's mentioned kneeling yet.
    Not like some of them aren't kneeling.
    Not like some people are taking offense to their kneeling.
    Make up your minds.
    1556) Message boards : Politics : Other independent candidates for U.S. President... (Message 1819533)
    Posted 25 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A bit surprised you haven't heard about McMullin.
    1557) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819532)
    Posted 25 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not like no one else mentioned "tradition".
    1558) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819456)
    Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You've disagreed with something, but it's still not even clear to whom or what you're responding. My question to you was "How?" Because you seem to be saying there is a inherent connection between sporting events and patriotic events ... ?

    The connection is the National Anthem itself. If you cannot see how so...


    Circular.
    1559) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819455)
    Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you mean this?


    Yes.
    1560) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819281)
    Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    betreger, I did not ASK anything in this post.
    I said, and have continued to say, that there is no inherent connection between sporting events and observances of things related to the nation,
    The singing of the national anthem appears to gave started (or at least became institutionalized) during dark times of war, when they had the opportunity to rouse patriotism at a time when a great multitude was present.

    I agree there is no connection, my point is he used that platform to start a potentially useful dialog. If you don't get that your not as smart as I thought you were.


    You grabbed that pic from 1 of 2 posters in this thread arguing against Kaspernick's protest. Respectfully, as far as I can tell, your argument is with Sirius B and qbit.
    1561) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819280)
    Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary sarge what no comment about my Hunger Games post .

    Your willing to use 1984 but reject the Hunger Games !! why is that I wonder


    Glenn, what?!? People in Australia don't sleep? People in Australia don't have jobs? Of course, that's as ridiculous as your responses to me, because you aren't even addressing what I'm saying. Not by a long shot. As for "The Hnuger Games", I've read the 3 books many times and watched the movies many times. (The first movie was good, the remainder left too much out. They cut out many of the other redeemable characters from The Capitol.) Your comment about Katinss raising her arm has absolutely nothing to do with what I've said.
    [b]I've said elsewhere that people are also taking offense to some of these athletes "taking a knee" during the anthem. Kneeling is recognized by many as a submission or deference, so how in the world anyone is taking offense to that is beyond me.[/i[


    Gee, Glenn! You're right, we don't understand kneeling and none of us has talked about that.
    1562) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819274)
    Posted 24 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's a time & place for everything.

    Sports Arenas & Movie theatres are there to provide entertainment for the crowds/audience.

    If they want to spout political bovine excrement, then they should use the Jeremy Kyle Show, Opfrah Show, social media or political conventions.


    AS ENTERTAINMENT. there is NO connection to NATION. Such so-called connections are only now perceived as connections due to the weight of tradition.

    If ANYTHING, at football games, they should pledge the flag of the state a team is from and sing its state's anthem. That's all it is: fake wars between teams from major states or major cities.

    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.


    betreger, I did not ASK anything in this post.
    I said, and have continued to say, that there is no inherent connection between sporting events and observances of things related to the nation,
    The singing of the national anthem appears to gave started (or at least became institutionalized) during dark times of war, when they had the opportunity to rouse patriotism at a time when a great multitude was present.
    By the weight of tradition, this practice continues.
    I said, essentially, that the trotting out of memes/pictures, by 2 here, of the dead and hurt is shameful to their memories. Since there is no inherent connection between sorting events and patriotic observances, as these 2 protest Kaspernick's protests, they plead to emotion while dragging along those that can longer speak for themselves. Dragged them into a conversation of which they should not even be a part. There is no inherent connection between sporting events and patriotic observances.

    You've disagreed with something, but it's still not even clear to whom or what you're responding. My question to you was "How?" Because you seem to be saying there is a inherent connection between sporting events and patriotic events ... ?
    1563) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819249)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Like we didn't see you type the Brit word for excrement with the i changed to y and then chastise me for my words.)

    You now the rules just as well as me. For further clarification, question those in power.

    If I could I wouldn't change the letters mentioned.



    SETI Forums wrote:
    Message 1660510 - Posted: 1 Apr 2015, 22:29:38 UTC

    Just a reminder as there seems to be some confusion in the policy regarding swearing:

    *) Swear words need to be self censored. (&%(^##^ is perfectlly accpetable as is f***, f**k, f-ing, and WTF. If you do not censor yourself, we will be forced to do it for you.


    How many times have I even used such words here? 2 or 3 times in 11 years?
    1564) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819248)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.
    Sarge I disagree this picture says there is.
    http://i.imgur.com/8S5zkBh.jpg


    So, are you saying that because Kaspernick has protested one inequity or perceived inequity, all inequities or perceived inequities should be protested, all at once? Or, as you still have not answered, do you believe he should not be protesting at all? Don't go off on "grammar nazi" about the placement of the comma. You're still not being clear.

    Sarge I am stating that the fact Kaspernick's protest has started a a much needed conversation that previous protests have failed to start. He apparently sees hypocrisy in pretending all is OK in this country as that picture of that destitute veteran shows it is not.


    And why, cxactly, are you saying this in response to what I said? What do you think I said? Do you continue to think that?
    1565) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819234)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.

    Incorrect.

    They fell to preserve freedom. That athlete & your statement dishonours that!

    Yes, that athlete had the freedom to do what he did, but he did it in the wrong manner & the wrong place.

    Those fallen also fell to give me that same freedom & I'm saying you're wrong.


    B***s***. Read the article I linked, for one.
    Two, how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem. Just like not thinking about God when reciting/singing liturgy/hymns (particularly if in Latin, not understood).

    So they fell to give you the freedom of speech while at the same time to quell the freedom of others - Is that what Yanks really think? Are they really full of bovine excrement?

    BTW I've often attended sports stadiums & want to watch the game - not some greedy overpaid wally woofer making politic statements.


    You call disagreement "quelling"? Really? Seriously?? (Like we didn't see you type the Brit word for excrement with the i changed to y and then chastise me for my words.)
    1566) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819229)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.
    Sarge I disagree this picture says there is.
    http://i.imgur.com/8S5zkBh.jpg


    So, are you saying that because Kaspernick has protested one inequity or perceived inequity, all inequities or perceived inequities should be protested, all at once? Or, as you still have not answered, do you believe he should not be protesting at all? Don't go off on "grammar nazi" about the placement of the comma. You're still not being clear.
    1567) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819211)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Don't Want To Stand when National Anthem is Sang/Played. I Don't Go to any Event for Purpose of Standing and Listening to National Anthem.

    Most People Look Ridiculous during Anthem. Embarrassing to Witness.

    I Don't Want to Give A Few Minutes of My Time, Stand, and NOT CARING at This Moment about PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE SACRIFICES.

    I'll Care or Not Care, when I Want To.

    Because Some People BELIEVE INTENSELY, I Should Stand/Participate in Anthem, is, for me, A Great Reason Not To.

    Were My GrandDad, Father and Me a Vet? Yes. SO F**king What.

    Leave Me Alone World. F**K Off.

    F**King Yap, Man.

    Heh, finally I can put a big +1 to one of your posts. I couldn't agree more.


    +2
    1568) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819201)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1

    As Ozzfan stated, everyone has the right of self expression & to protest as those rights were earned the hard way.

    To see one person's opinion lambasted as b***s*** & by a teacher no less, speaks volumes.


    No, it doesn't.
    Call a spade a spade.
    I could be wrong, but I don't think Ozs is in agreement with you.
    1569) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819200)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth,


    Good, I salute you. I also request that you check again on
    the freedom thingy, Freedom comes in many shapes and flavours.
    I could go into the definitions stuff, but I believe we all know
    where we stand on such things.


    That's great that you can pick and choose areas where you believe you are freer than us. How about taking my comments within context of the discussion? Nah, let's just take exception to individual statements and disregard the context with which they're given! /s That is to say: do you believe a symbol or gesture should be held in higher regard than one's right to self expression and even protest?


    And if I'm correct that many pledge, recite and sing by rote, are they even thinking of the symbol?
    1570) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819198)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary sarge what no comment about my Hunger Games post .

    Your willing to use 1984 but reject the Hunger Games !! why is that I wonder


    Glenn, what?!? People in Australia don't sleep? People in Australia don't have jobs? Of course, that's as ridiculous as your responses to me, because you aren't even addressing what I'm saying. Not by a long shot. As for "The Hnuger Games", I've read the 3 books many times and watched the movies many times. (The first movie was good, the remainder left too much out. They cut out many of the other redeemable characters from The Capitol.) Your comment about Katinss raising her arm has absolutely nothing to do with what I've said.
    I've said elsewhere that people are also taking offense to some of these athletes "taking a knee" during the anthem. Kneeling is recognized by many as a submission or deference, so how in the world anyone is taking offense to that is beyond me.
    1571) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819193)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sarge that is one hell of a leap .
    To associate 1984 with 1 sportsman holding his fist up in protest

    It's also a good example of why we in the Colony's laugh at you lot

    You all ways go to the extreme left when it comes to Freedom but the extreme right is ok hence 60,000 direct deaths from guns . To blind to see the problem .

    Because to do away with guns is to infringe on your rights .what about the right not to get shot ?


    It is no leap.
    What is in the mind of a person when they pledge the flag?
    What is in the mind of a person when they rise and sing the national anthem?
    Are they thinking of their country? Any of the good? Any of the bad?
    What is in the mind of a person when, at church, reciting liturgy or singing hymns? Are they thinking of God?
    Or are they performing things by rote? Trying to make sure they look good and proper in front of their peers?
    Has anybody read the article from ESPN of why we have the national anthem at sporting events? I browsed parts of it. I'll bet some of the reasons no longer apply or or were bad reasons in the first place.
    Again: what place does singing the national anthem have at sporting events??? And if it has a place, then why isn't it required at every entertainment event? Or reciting the pledge to the flag? Or either of these whenever 2 US citizens have gathered???
    1572) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819191)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sarge that is one hell of a leap .
    To associate 1984 with 1 sportsman holding his fist up in protest

    It's also a good example of why we in the Colony's laugh at you lot

    You all ways go to the extreme left when it comes to Freedom but the extreme right is ok hence 60,000 direct deaths from guns . To blind to see the problem .

    Because to do away with guns is to infringe on your rights .what about the right not to get shot ?


    This also addresses nothing of what I said.
    Not one bit.
    1573) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819190)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The latter, which has nothing to do with the Nation. They're whipped into a frenzy. Just like Winston and Julia were against whomever Big Brother said they were currently at war against.

    So using a sports arena to incite war & political statements is okay then.

    Gordon Bennett, what are you teaching your students?


    This addresses nothing of what I said.
    Don't blame it on the teacher. You like to use that ATTACK.
    Number one, I don't teach history or politics.
    Number two, you attempt to absolve yourself of any responsibility as a "student".
    1574) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819189)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1575) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819065)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're stiiillllll not reeeading!

    So clarify, after all you are a teacher & your pupil does not understand.

    how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem.

    So what are they thinking of? Some wally woofer going to make a political statement or their team ready to kick some ass?


    The latter, which has nothing to do with the Nation. They're whipped into a frenzy. Just like Winston and Julia were against whomever Big Brother said they were currently at war against.

    1576) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819059)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Next thing you know, you Borg will be demanding we pledge the flag and sing the anthem before a movie. Then, whenever 2 or more US citizens are gathered.
    1577) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819058)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.

    Incorrect.

    They fell to preserve freedom. That athlete & your statement dishonours that!

    Yes, that athlete had the freedom to do what he did, but he did it in the wrong manner & the wrong place.

    Those fallen also fell to give me that same freedom & I'm saying you're wrong.


    B***s***. Read the article I linked, for one.
    Two, how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem. Just like not thinking about God when reciting/singing liturgy/hymns (particularly if in Latin, not understood).

    So they fell to give you the freedom of speech while at the same time to quell the freedom of others - Is that what Yanks really think? Are they really full of bovine excrement?

    BTW I've often attended sports stadiums & want to watch the game - not some greedy overpaid wally woofer making politic statements.


    You're stiiillllll not reeeading!
    1578) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819046)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.

    Incorrect.

    They fell to preserve freedom. That athlete & your statement dishonours that!

    Yes, that athlete had the freedom to do what he did, but he did it in the wrong manner & the wrong place.

    Those fallen also fell to give me that same freedom & I'm saying you're wrong.


    B***s***. Read the article I linked, for one.
    Two, how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem. Just like not thinking about God when reciting/singing liturgy/hymns (particularly if in Latin, not understood).
    1579) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819040)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did reread your post and I disagree there is a connection.


    So, you agree there is no connection? The lack of the comma suggests this. If otherwise, you have not given sufficient reason. Ozz's post is a good reference. Another is:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/garcia-time-put-national-anthem-sporting-events-article-1.2647068.
    1580) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819036)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I really think you two need to read what I said again.
    1581) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819029)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.
    Sarge I disagree this picture says there is.
    http://i.imgur.com/8S5zkBh.jpg


    How?
    1582) Message boards : Politics : Athelets and Celebrities anthem protests (Message 1819023)
    Posted 23 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's a time & place for everything.

    Sports Arenas & Movie theatres are there to provide entertainment for the crowds/audience.

    If they want to spout political bovine excrement, then they should use the Jeremy Kyle Show, Opfrah Show, social media or political conventions.


    AS ENTERTAINMENT. there is NO connection to NATION. Such so-called connections are only now perceived as connections due to the weight of tradition.

    If ANYTHING, at football games, they should pledge the flag of the state a team is from and sing its state's anthem. That's all it is: fake wars between teams from major states or major cities.

    Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories.
    1583) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818932)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know some people around here who have told me verbally or online they'll vote for Trump.
    No Trump signs out.
    1 sign for Clinton.
    1584) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818931)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Now even FOX admits it! Take away the racism & xenophobia and Tump is catching others with LEFTIST policies. "She also assumed that a larger number of conservative Republicans would stick to their ideological guns and refuse to move left with Trump."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/never-saw-it-coming.html[/url]



    Hmm...

    Remember what I said a few months ago about the USA being in the middle of a realignment of political parties?

    Clinton(D) is moving somewhat towards the right.

    Trump(R) is moving somewhat towards the left.

    Has hell frozen over yet? :P


    If a good portion of Trump's supporters knew which of his policies were on the left, they'd probably drop him like a hot potato and go for Johnson. Or, if they realized they like left policies after all. maybe go to Clinton or more likely Stein because they've been fed "Hillary, bad" for 24 years.
    1585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : intergalactic quotes 2 (Message 1818907)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ford Prefect: "I read of one planet in the seventh dimension got used as a ball in a game of intergalactic bar billiards. Got potted straight into a black hole, killed ten billion people."


    Finally, HHGttG!

    Only scored 30 points, too.

    Now that's THIS from? "I'm afraid you have us mistaken for somebody else. My name's not 'Turkey' and neither is his!"

    ST IV?


    May I say, in a friendly way that since' you're wrong, "A double-dumb### on you!"?

    Is that not Star Trek The Voyage Home


    The latter was, the former was from the 1st episode of Galactica 1980.
    1586) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818904)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I rode around through my retirement community today and this is what I saw. Possibly a dozen yard signs supporting Trump/Pence. That's a pretty small number but what was significant, there were NO signs or posters supporting Clinton. It is the same on the roads around here, lots of Trump bumper stickers but only rarely a Clinton sticker.

    Same here in Florida. Add many Trump Buttons proudly displayed.

    No Clinton Signs. And few Clinton Buttons.


    Saw several T-shirts today in separate locations with "Irredeemably Deplorable" blazoned thereon.


    And some of them won't be voting for either, even if they're turning Clinton's line about Trump supporters into a gag. One of them was supporting Kasich. I'll bet he plans to go with Johnson now.
    1587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : intergalactic quotes 2 (Message 1818809)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ford Prefect: "I read of one planet in the seventh dimension got used as a ball in a game of intergalactic bar billiards. Got potted straight into a black hole, killed ten billion people."


    Finally, HHGttG!

    Only scored 30 points, too.

    Now that's THIS from? "I'm afraid you have us mistaken for somebody else. My name's not 'Turkey' and neither is his!"

    ST IV?


    May I say, in a friendly way that since' you're wrong, "A double-dumb### on you!"?
    1588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : intergalactic quotes 2 (Message 1818773)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ford Prefect: "I read of one planet in the seventh dimension got used as a ball in a game of intergalactic bar billiards. Got potted straight into a black hole, killed ten billion people."


    Finally, HHGttG!

    Now that's THIS from? "I'm afraid you have us mistaken for somebody else. My name's not 'Turkey' and neither is his!"
    1589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : intergalactic quotes 2 (Message 1818772)
    Posted 22 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Are we in an alternate universe?"
    "It is more aptly described as a pocket in the garment of time."

    - Kirk and Devna, Interpreter of Laws


    One of the books? (If yes, please PM me.)
    1590) Message boards : Politics : UC Berkeley suspends course on Palestine (Message 1818770)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We could have the percents discussion over here as well.
    How many are sympathetic to terrorism in academe or how many Muslims are there in academe?
    How many are professors?
    How many are admin?
    In this case, besides the Dean, there was a faculty advisor to the senior teaching the course.
    There's a layer at least 2 deep. Now we need 2 lazy academics or 2 corrupt academics or 1 of each, then we have a problem.
    (A decimal between 0 and 1 times are decimal between 0 and 1 yields a decimal, still between 0 and 1, smaller still. Assuming independence of events.)


    In fact, there was 3rd layer from outside the school. As Gary quoted, "Students and academics charged university administrators with buckling under external political pressures from Israel advocacy groups ...". )Emphasis added.)

    It looks like what we have here is an over-sensitive left at first buckling to an over-sensitive right (Netanyahu's side of Israel) but, on a 2nd left, now that 3 layers have looked at it, reinstated.
    1591) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818763)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Now even FOX admits it! Take away the racism & xenophobia and Tump is catching others with LEFTIST policies. "She also assumed that a larger number of conservative Republicans would stick to their ideological guns and refuse to move left with Trump."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/never-saw-it-coming.html[/url]


    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/donald-trump-not-conservative/
    1592) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818759)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Now even FOX admits it! Take away the racism & xenophobia and Tump is catching others with LEFTIST policies. "She also assumed that a larger number of conservative Republicans would stick to their ideological guns and refuse to move left with Trump."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/never-saw-it-coming.html[/url]
    1593) Message boards : Politics : UC Berkeley suspends course on Palestine (Message 1818740)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We could have the percents discussion over here as well.
    How many are sympathetic to terrorism in academe or how many Muslims are there in academe?
    How many are professors?
    How many are admin?
    In this case, besides the Dean, there was a faculty advisor to the senior teaching the course.
    There's a layer at least 2 deep. Now we need 2 lazy academics or 2 corrupt academics or 1 of each, then we have a problem.
    (A decimal between 0 and 1 times are decimal between 0 and 1 yields a decimal, still between 0 and 1, smaller still. Assuming independence of events.)
    1594) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818739)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As noted: Low percentages (numbers) do not tell the entire story.

    Another question to those in these threads.

    What is the chance, in percentage, of you personally, or those you love, being killed by any Terrorist?

    1%, .01%, .001%, .0001%? Less? More?


    Perspective.

    Family lived near the early 2000s sniper attacks.

    Sarge...

    Good answer!

    BTW: Grew-up in the streets, Combat Veteran, Law Enforcement. Always 'looking over my shoulder'.

    All are living in their own universe.

    Between 2001 to 2013 a US citizen was 120 times more likely to be killed in a violent gun incident inside the USA that be killed worldwide by a terrorist

    WK...

    Correct.


    As an academic, I am definitely in my own universe. Looking over my shoulder means making sure the brane of another universe from another dimension doesn't collide with my brane as I spend too much time inside my brain.
    1595) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818707)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As noted: Low percentages (numbers) do not tell the entire story.

    Another question to those in these threads.

    What is the chance, in percentage, of you personally, or those you love, being killed by any Terrorist?

    1%, .01%, .001%, .0001%? Less? More?


    Perspective.

    Family lived near the early 2000s sniper attacks.
    1596) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818698)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As someone that grew up in a dysfunctional family, I have never felt 100% safe. A person in the city I currently live in has said "Sarge, you always have one eye looking over your shoulder." He's pretty much right. But, that has not made me paranoid and I can put these percentages in their proper perspective. I'm more worried about being hit by a careless motorist.
    1597) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818670)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is One Murderer, One Child Rapist, and One Armed Robber living amongst you.

    Fact: Your chance of being either Murdered, Raped or Robbed is .003%

    Clyde that's what was done in the past not what will occur in the future.


    It takes "people do not change" as an axiom.
    But, what if a murderer doesn't kill again, yet another murderer crops up?
    1598) Message boards : Politics : Crimea 7 (Message 1818645)
    Posted 21 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Sarge, well spoken as usual. I am offended by that posters abusive behavior ..



    Though with 2 or 3 typos. :(
    1599) Message boards : Politics : Crimea 7 (Message 1818529)
    Posted 20 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Flooder never recognizes his mistakes, he try to mask his mistakes and fakes by means of further flood.
    In the reality it was two official languages in the Estonian SSR, it was Estonian language and Russian language. Two official languages was in all 14 non-Russian republics of USSR (Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakhstan, etc.).


    Maybe I should ask my Ukrainian colleague (also named Igor)? Or e-mail my former Ukrainian girlfriend? In the meantime, ik's not he said-she said, since Janne has supplied links to support his claims. We could call you "flooder", Igor, but that's probably a bannable offebse. Oh, you didn't know about that? Just like you didn't know you could report complaints? Now, who is misinformed or under-informed? :)
    1600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1818338)
    Posted 20 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mama said "Fussball is gott-less. Fussball is THE DEVIL!"
    "Aww, mama, you say everything is The Devil!"
    1601) Message boards : Politics : UC Berkeley suspends course on Palestine (Message 1818334)
    Posted 20 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New information for me and am dumb founded. Feel like I am living under a rock on this one. LOL!

    Like everywhere else, graduate students teach, professors research and their names look good on solicitations.


    In the case of me, I taught at a community college while I got my Master's. And I was already provisionally certified, after Bachelor's, to teach secondary. Everything I taught a c.c. was something that could have been taken in high school. Continued teaching a while at the c.c. and a private school for e.d. teens before returning to grad school.
    1602) Message boards : Politics : UC Berkeley suspends course on Palestine (Message 1818276)
    Posted 19 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Paul Hadweh, a senior undergraduate, had already started teaching the course through the university's DeCal programme, which allows students to teach courses on material of their choice under faculty supervision.

    They offer courses taught by non-certified student instructors at taxpayer expense?

    WOW! That doesn't sound right?

    New information for me and am dumb founded. Feel like I am living under a rock on this one. LOL!

    We wonder why university costs have spiraled out of reach.

    That's like "Basket Weaving 101" on steroids. Har!

    ...


    "... under faculty supervision."

    Like starting a graduate teaching assistantship before grad school?
    1603) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818093)
    Posted 19 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As an Australian without any vested interest in U.S. politics, I would say Hillary is your worst case scenario and you don't really have a lot of choice.


    The Libertarian Govs for Pres/VP, Johnson/Weld, are on the ballot in 50 states... that IS a choice.

    We can only vote for what we believe in and the person we believe...
    (or be told what to believe and who to vote for by the authoritarian right or the authoritarian left).
    Luckily there is an honest choice.


    Discuss Johnson's economic plan (preferably in the thread about his candidacy). Is it in keeping with the LP Platform? What are the chances it will be enacted with little to none of his party in either house of Congress? Is he a civil libertarian while an econmic ideologue/authoritarian?
    1604) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818092)
    Posted 19 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ clyde

    A bomb would not be an act of terrorism if, for instance, a number of them were used to demolish a building so that new construction could take place.

    MK...

    Repeating... If a person plants a bomb to advance a Religious, Secular or Personal Agenda. Why isn't it Terrorism?

    As to the BTWs: Bobby, Clyde is saying he doesn't respect your contributions here. I wish he did.

    Sarge...

    bobby just engages, as has been described by other posters in these Threads and PM's, in Circular Logic.

    I must agree with them.


    I've communicated with Bobby 9-10 years. While he doesn't engage in sarcasm (or, not in the way I do) nor flat out wild posts as I have done (which has, on occasion, elicited another person to say something in a way that I begin to understand them and therefore change the dynamic). But, his presentation, I believe, is very similar to mine. Another similar poster in terms of presentation is OzzFan. (I don't know if he'd acknowledge that, as he and I have also communicated 9-10 years and, in the early days, it was not kindly. I believe both of us lacked sufficient information to get around what we were battling over at the time.)

    Inasmuch as one can be friends with someone they have never met but only communicate with online, I consider Bobby a friend.

    Given that we are among the ones not in support of Trump, isn't it possible to find some common ground?
    1605) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1818090)
    Posted 19 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS SEPT. 18, 2016, 4:54 P.M. E.D.T.

    WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. — Hillary Clinton on Sunday condemned what she described as "apparent terrorist attacks" in Minnesota, New Jersey and New York.
    Hmmm, apparently it takes Hiliary longer than Trump to figure out the obvious....


    Right thread!

    Hey, you had all the forensic evidence, and forensic experience, to make it obbbvious?
    1606) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1818027)
    Posted 18 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi bobby...

    Most people understand that Bomb and Explosion are used interchangeably.

    BTW 1: WK (with whom I have great respect - despite our disagreements) can respond. Doesn't need your help.

    BTW 2: Understand the real meaning behind BTW 1?

    Your estimation of "most people" may differ from others, the two words do not mean the same thing, for instance, there was no 'bomb' when the transformer station on 14th Street exploded during Sandy (which happens around the 3 min mark of this), nor when it exploded in 2002. Rushing to judge the cause of an explosion, might not be a characteristic some people want in their President.

    BTW 1, who, other than you is suggesting WK needs my help?

    BTW 2, no I don't understand, please clarify what this "real meaning" is.


    Indeed, explosions occur for many reasons other than bombs. I personally would prefer a president that does not rush to judgment and can choose words better.

    As to the BTWs: Bobby, Clyde is saying he doesn't respect your contributions here. I wish he did.
    1607) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1817972)
    Posted 18 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't exactly see how a real estate mogul is to blame for people falling to the seduction of consumerism.


    Pursuit of post-secondary education is consumerism?
    1608) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1817688)
    Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even if she doesn't like people in uniform, she likes what they can do for her, like intervene, topple, replace.
    1609) Message boards : Politics : Is Donald J Trump a Rapist? (Message 1817622)
    Posted 16 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shall we trust the courts to work this out or the court of public opinion.
    There are plenty of other things to suggest he'd be a bad president anyway.
    To misquote him he could have a harem and be a serial murder and he "still wouldn't lose any votes".
    In this cycle, if there are any undecided swing voters that could swing his way in 60 days, I'd be amazed.
    1610) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1817400)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unfortunately, this forum has not "Complaint" button for messages with fakes and flood.


    It doesn't? [sarcasm]Sweet, I'll say whatever I want.[/sarcasm]
    1611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1817345)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember Thor's day is also Friday Eve, Happy Thor's day.
    Hail Thor

    Yes. But where is he?
    Not here. 25C (75F) degrees and no thunder and lighting.


    He used to be on a mountaintop or in a volcano, but then we moved him to the sky. Once we learned to fly, we moved him beyond time and space.
    1612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Star Trek series!! (Message 1817344)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CBS All Access has delayed the launch of Star Trek: Discovery from January to May 2017.

    I just said that.

    I just said that.
    1613) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1817315)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Signs of antisocial personality disorder

    â–  exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others
    â–  lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress
    â–  behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour
    â–  have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships
    â–  be unable to control their anger
    â–  lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes
    â–  blame others for problems in their lives
    â–  repeatedly break the law

    Includes BOTH major candidates.

    How did we get into this mess?

    Perhaps because you american voters elected them.
    I'm however pleased to see that most americans are not in favour of any of them.


    Unfortunately, it appears "that's ... not ... entirely ... accurate". (Wait a minute. Which part?) In many states, to participate in a primary or caucus, you must be registered with the party. Registered well enough in advance. I've heard (can someone find a link to confirm or deny?) that only 9% of US citizens eligible to vote took part in the primaries/caucuses. For some , that could be due to lack of interest. Others, such as myself, have so far refused to register with one of the parties. That makes it impossible for me, in many states, to be able to help in the winnowing process.
    1614) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1817301)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Signs of antisocial personality disorder

    â–  have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships
    Includes BOTH major candidates.

    That's bill not hillary.


    There are other things in that list that do seem to apply, though.
    1615) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1817300)
    Posted 15 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some of us, when pointing out a negative of Hillary, post in Es' thread and, when pointing out a negative of Trump, post it in Bob's. Generally speaking.

    Sarge...

    Perhaps we should combine the Donald Trump for President? and Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? Threads into:

    Next US President?


    Since I did say "generally", I was suggesting that sometimes it is difficult to separate one comment into one thread when it overlaps another. So, perhaps this is not a bad idea?
    1616) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1817200)
    Posted 14 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some of us, when pointing out a negative of Hillary, post in Es' thread and, when pointing out a negative of Trump, post it in Bob's. Generally speaking.
    1617) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1816811)
    Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-it is NOT a more realistic question. The REALITY is that Johnson IS on the ballot in all 50 states and, last I heard, Stein is on the ballot in about 23. Though I plan to respond further to Clyde, overall, it IS due to lack of attention and lack of being able to take part in the debates ruining their chances. The set up of the electoral votes will THEREFORE lead to a result of little or none won in the 2 states Clyde has mentioned and none elsewhere. Were it more like districts electing their Reps in the House, then district by district, they might do a little better.
    1618) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1816810)
    Posted 13 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let him say what he wishes to say and let him pay the price for it if he goes too far.
    I didn't see a question from him because I have him blocked currently. I see no reason at present to remove him. All he's doing lately is attacking anybody and everybody and I will not be drawn into it. I can't force you to not respond to him, let alone quote him ... .
    And if he hasn't been able to tell that I was one of the first in this country, as evidenced in Bob's Trump thread, to speak out against Trump, consistently, with good reasons and quite repeatedly? Well, it just goes to show wha I alluded to earlier ... he does not go back and read in-depth and does not connect dots.
    I DO NOW AND ALWAYS HAVE DENOUNCED TRUMP!
    Is that clear enough?
    1619) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816755)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps after the next election you all may be
    very glad if the winner has real bad health.....




    Guess you missed my parenthetical?
    New maxim? "Don't wish on your enemies what you wouldn't wish on your friends"?
    1620) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816752)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    @ Wiggo you country would create much good will in North America if you took him back.

    Or silence him, perhaps a nice long tax fraud term and forfeiture?
    Well seeing as he gave up being an Aussie to become a Yank back in 1985 there's not a great deal we can do with him these days. But you guys did welcome him with open arms though when yous could've said no. :-D

    Cheers.

    When you (and Glenn) say "you", I assume you think the entire USA is responsible. Correct?


    Your Gov. is elected buy all Americans ..No!

    So wasn't our problem as Wiggo said you could have rejected his application for Citizenship but NOOOOOO you only saw $$$$$$$ and now you have a monster that only

    YOUR Gov. Can control.

    Oh that's right you can't control him because of your silly constitution ! :)


    Would YOU please STOP mis-using the quote function?
    Removing sub-quotes makes it look one person said everything in the quote. It is, at best, annoying. It is, at worst, misleading/lyinh.
    And, after figuring out WHO the heck you were talking about, sorry, NO, I did not see money when Ken Ham came here. Thank you very much.
    1621) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816750)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am surprised . A lot of you are in the age group of middle to old age and have medical problems .

    Walking up stairs like the picture shows looks like lower back problems not hart problems . I'm shore the Doctors would not let a terminally ill person run for POTUS.

    And is it really anybody's business to know her personal health problems !!!


    Short of violating The Hippocratic Oath, it has become de factor that our POTUS nominees release health info. Do YOU want a candidate (particularly if on your "side") becoming unable to perform the duties of the position or dying mid-term???
    1622) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816746)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm a whole basket full of deplorable all by myself.........an elderly white male who reveres the Constitution as written, an NRA Lifetime Member who exercises my Rights under the 1st and 2nd Amendment daily.

    A Trump supporter because nobody else has the balls and Hillary's worst nightmare.

    To be deplorable you have to be racist, sexist, xenophobic, Islamophobic. I suspect you actually belong to the second group Hillary described the 'forgotten, ignored and desperately want change' group.

    Reality...

    Both sides contain Deplorable People.

    Undoubtedly true, just as there are probably some deplorable people that post to the SETI@Home fora.

    Probably in the same percentage.

    And your basis for this is?

    Hillary and the Left are The Pot calling the Kettle black.

    Oh I see, to justify this remark.


    Is there reason to believe the percents differ by party? If so, condicy a hypothesis test with null hypothesis: mu1 - mu2 = 0. Alternate? Or, have such studies already been done? How do we quantify "deplorable"?
    1623) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816731)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    The picture was taken a few months ago.
    Want a president who can walk up the stairs.


    Funny, the version I saw didn't have Reuters plastered over it multiple times.
    She's ill. Fine. Could it be a big concern? Yes.
    Is that pic real? ???
    1624) Message boards : Politics : Ark park (Message 1816699)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, there's no accounting for taste, or faith, or the lack of either.

    I think it is a most amazing undertaking. You needn't be a man of faith to appreciate the creative effort at hand there.


    I have no problem appreciating the sheer engineering beauty of it, but as said in this thread already, the only thing that worries me are the people who think Noah's Ark was a real event, down to the flooding of the Earth - rather than the parable it is meant to be: that of rebirth and renewal.


    I just help shape the minds of people that may build, not build myself, nor have I looked technical details, but: seriously, are we talking about a technologica/engineeringl marvel for 2016?


    Since the thread has been necromanced, I'll ask again: pyramids, 40000 years or more, technological feat for the time. Ken Ham's ark replica in 2016? Technological wonder?
    1625) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1816697)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is the MAIN reason Johnson (and Stein) do (does) not have a chance is not being able to get in the debates?

    No...

    Just our 'Winner Take All' Election System.

    IE: In most States. Presidential Candidate taking 50.1% of the vote. Receives 100% of the Electors.

    This, in most instances, forces minority factions to join one of two Party's. If they wish to have any influence.


    Which, if any states, award electoral votes based on who has the majority/plurality for that district?
    1626) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1816673)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is the MAIN reason Johnson (and Stein) do (does) not have a chance is not being able to get in the debates?
    1627) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816669)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People can discuss whether Johnson or Stein have a chance all they want. Few people (percentage-wise) are saying that, as far as I can tell. If I temporarily narrow my focus, I am allowed that right. And that is where the discussion overall was going amongst a few of us. I don't think I in anyway led or forced such a narrowing of focus.
    1628) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816644)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry for repeating facts.

    If no Candidate wins 270 Electoral Votes:

    A Republican majority House of Representatives elects the next President.

    Can either Johnson or Stein win 270 Votes?

    Where? Exactly which States?

    If it is improbable, despite wishful thinking, either will garner 270 votes. Who will the Republican Politicians in The House really vote for?

    A Non-Republican?

    Again... Wishful Thinking.


    The discussion is, who will Johnson and Stein voters draw votes away from? Few people would be trying to suggest at this point that either has a chance of winning, so who do they inevitably wind up helping or hurting.
    1629) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816643)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since very popular Third Party Candidate, Former President 'Teddy' Roosevelt couldn't get 270 Electoral Votes (1912):

    Wilson captured 41.9 percent of the vote to Roosevelt's 27.4 percent and Taft's 23.1 percent.

    Johnson (Don Quixote), has as much chance.


    That was neither of my 2 points. And I hear Lincoln was a 3rd Party Candidate ... that before then the Republicans were not a major party ... ? (I did well in my history classes, but I can't say I remember every single thing and I search for a lot to bolster my memory, but I don't search every single thing.)
    1630) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816637)
    Posted 12 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who will lose votes due to Johnson?

    http://cornellsun.com/2016/09/02/cornell-republicans-break-party-lines-endorse-johnson-for-president/.

    I hear the group has been stripped of its funding for not being cheerleaders.
    1631) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816530)
    Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge but You make vacuous charges as easily as djt.
    Any vote for Gary Johnson, is a vote for djt.
    It's simple math.

    Correct.

    Republicans, in The House of Representatives, may determine who will be the next President.

    Their ONLY choice will be between Clinton, Trump and Johnson.


    Incorrect.
    Just because some readers can't look further back in a thread doesn't mean good reasons haven't been given elsewhere.

    @Clyde: It is far more likely, since it does not appear Johnson or Stein will garner much support (it's getting too late) that a vote for Johnson would help Hillary and a vote for Stein would help Trump.



    Ahh... So that explains why I saw (last night) a program (an op-ed program) on CNN (Clinton News Network) really pushing the Johnson ticket as the best candidate in the race.


    Maybe, maybe not.
    Do you agree or disagree, if Johnson can't get enough support, who it will help?


    Well, that is a tough one...


    Agreed.

    The big question is whether or not he would pull more support from the Republican's core groups with Libertarian Fiscal Conservatism... or pull more support from the Democrat's core groups with Libertarian Social Liberalism...


    The votes, on the left, that Hillary loses will likely be those that supported Bernie and many of them were millenials. While some of them will be attracted to Gary's social liberalism,if they do their research they may be turned off by his fiscal conservatism. Moreover, Gary has admitted he kind of missed the point of BLM until recently (would have to re-find a link about that). What about gay marriage? Apparently a lot of millenials that are not gay don't care to obstruct the eligibility of gays to marriage. Maybe Gary feels the same, but where would it go with the leigslators parallel to him? Where would it go with Supreme Court judges he nominates?
    1632) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816428)
    Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge but You make vacuous charges as easily as djt.
    Any vote for Gary Johnson, is a vote for djt.
    It's simple math.

    Correct.

    Republicans, in The House of Representatives, may determine who will be the next President.

    Their ONLY choice will be between Clinton, Trump and Johnson.


    Incorrect.
    Just because some readers can't look further back in a thread doesn't mean good reasons haven't been given elsewhere.

    @Clyde: It is far more likely, since it does not appear Johnson or Stein will garner much support (it's getting too late) that a vote for Johnson would help Hillary and a vote for Stein would help Trump.



    Ahh... So that explains why I saw (last night) a program (an op-ed program) on CNN (Clinton News Network) really pushing the Johnson ticket as the best candidate in the race.


    Maybe, maybe not.
    Do you agree or disagree, if Johnson can't get enough support, who it will help?
    1633) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816412)
    Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then perhaps it is time for another reminder of how Trump would do with the First Amendment.[/quote]
    1634) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816411)
    Posted 11 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge but You make vacuous charges as easily as djt.
    Any vote for Gary Johnson, is a vote for djt.
    It's simple math.

    Correct.

    Republicans, in The House of Representatives, may determine who will be the next President.

    Their ONLY choice will be between Clinton, Trump and Johnson.


    Incorrect.
    Just because some readers can't look further back in a thread doesn't mean good reasons haven't been given elsewhere.

    @Clyde: It is far more likely, since it does not appear Johnson or Stein will garner much support (it's getting too late) that a vote for Johnson would help Hillary and a vote for Stein would help Trump.
    1635) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816223)
    Posted 10 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't take the USA far did he.


    No, and Hillary will take the nation even further right than he did )hawkish corporatist).
    1636) Message boards : Politics : Faux (Message 1816222)
    Posted 10 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I always wonder why in our society, how bad behavior often results in huge financial reward.

    Steve

    If you or me were guilty of the same activity we would be thrown under the jail.


    Sorry, but that takes the conversation back a step, not forward.
    Regular person, do the crime, pay major fines and major time.
    Rich person (Republican, Democrat, etc. ...) settles, walks, etc. ... .
    What would you like done about the discrepancy?
    Could it be done?
    Or shall we just wring our hands?
    1637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : all the Treks (Message 1816103)
    Posted 10 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In honor of the 50th
    Me as an extra in the Wrath of Kahn



    As the kiddos say, fer realz?
    1638) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816100)
    Posted 10 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JaundicedEye wrote:
    Wrong thread.
    Don't care.


    Don't care.


    Uh huh?
    1639) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1816098)
    Posted 10 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dem lib social commie Lauer kowtowed to Trump. Just more evidence that the middle left is the middle right and vice versa, meaning it's the corporatocracy. But enjoy expending energy being a team's fan when they go on the gridiron. You can cheer for them and boo the opposing team.
    1640) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1816011)
    Posted 9 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "No, no! I smell bad! You all smell wonderful!"
    "If you're a parrot, you repeat things. It's what you do."
    "It's what you do!"
    1641) Message boards : Politics : 2016 general election debate schedule (Message 1815816)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris Wallace has stated it his job to get Clinton & Trump to engage (as if they would not otherwise?) and it is not his job to be a truth hound. Falsehoods must be caught and countered by the candidates themselves. Thus, not only will he not call out Trump in clear lies, he will also NOT CALL OUT HILLARY WHEN SHE LIES (and Wallace is on clearly right FOX). Neutral infotainment sucks. It IS his job to report the truth, even while moderating.

    It is his job.

    Having the Participants attack each others lies. Will only result in a Yelling Match.

    Good for Ratings and Headlines.

    Not a Substantive Debate.


    I think Matt Lauer gave us a good idea of what to expect. Getting close to yellow.
    1642) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson hasn't smoked Weed in 5 Weeks, and Will Not Smoke Weed as Prez (Message 1815803)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Ummm, do I need to point an arrow at it? C'mon, this is a fairly bright group! :)
    1643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1815786)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you take Thor's Day too seriously, you might need some Thor-azine!
    1644) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson hasn't smoked Weed in 5 Weeks, and Will Not Smoke Weed as Prez (Message 1815773)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1645) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson hasn't smoked Weed in 5 Weeks, and Will Not Smoke Weed as Prez (Message 1815765)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am traumatized. :P
    1646) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1815759)
    Posted 8 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WOW!......the 'Alternative'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01nH4aZqlCc


    Wrong thread. And I'd hazard a guess that this may just be ... may just be the result of slight differences in pronunciation/enunciation.
    1647) Message boards : Politics : 2016 general election debate schedule (Message 1815634)
    Posted 7 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are three Presidential debates scheduled, and one for the vice presidential candidates. Here's the lowdown:

    The first presidential debate: This happens Monday, Sept. 26, at Hofstra University, in Hempstead, New York. The moderator will be NBC News anchor, Lester Holt.

    The vice presidential debate: On Tuesday, Oct. 4, Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine and Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence will debate at Longwood University, in Farmville, Virginia. The moderator will be Elaine Quijano, an anchor at CBSN and a CBS News correspondent.

    Second presidential debate: On Sunday, Oct. 9, the presidential candidates debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. Moderators will be Martha Raddatz, chief global affairs correspondent and co-anchor of ABC News' "This Week," and Anderson Cooper, CNN news anchor. The format will be a town hall-style event.

    Third presidential debate: On Wednesday, Oct. 19, presidential candidates will debate at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas in Las Vegas, Nevada. The moderator will be Chris Wallace, anchor for Fox News Sunday.

    added debate moderators.


    Chris Wallace has stated it his job to get Clinton & Trump to engage (as if they would not otherwise?) and it is not his job to be a truth hound. Falsehoods must be caught and countered by the candidates themselves. Thus, not only will he not call out Trump in clear lies, he will also NOT CALL OUT HILLARY WHEN SHE LIES (and Wallace is on clearly right FOX). Neutral infotainment sucks. It IS his job to report the truth, even while moderating.
    1648) Message boards : Politics : Faux (Message 1815447)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the meantime, they've also lost van Sustern, too. Greta initially defended Ailes. As of my reading this morning, no reason yet given.
    1649) Message boards : Politics : It can't happen in THIS election, but.... (Message 1815445)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys owe me a new keyboard and monitor - my coffee exploded ;-0


    :)
    1650) Message boards : Politics : North Korea. (Message 1815444)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not good at all. (Not a deep analysis, but ... .)
    1651) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1815387)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're right, my kids and grandkids won't live to their 70s.
    I don't have any.
    1652) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1815296)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the Orwellian Left Wing


    Are you sure about that?



    Kyle Kulinski, progressive (civil liberties libertarian), speaks of the "Regressive Left". Here, he discusses the very recent (within about 1 week) University of Chicago stand on NO safe spaces and NO trigger warnings: University Drops The Hammer On 'Safe Spaces' & 'Trigger Warnings'. (WarningL Kyle curses alot, but worth listening to his argument.)

    Similar, without the cursing, is David Pakman: University of Chicago Against Safe Spaces & "Trigger Warnings" .

    Clyde has used the term "regressive left" before and when he uses the term "Orwellian left wing thugs" I believe he means the same thing. I believe Kyle and David are in agreement with Clyde on this.

    Kyle says "This isn't liberalism" it's "the authoritarian left".

    Being on the left is the intersection. Civil liberties vs. authoritarianism is where thy do not intersect.

    And Trump is on the authoritarian right that seeks his own safe spaces. How?
    1653) Message boards : Politics : It can't happen in THIS election, but.... (Message 1815284)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the NEXT election: Hillary as Dem nomination, The Donald as V.P.


    (It won't work the other way, because while Trump may want to be in charge and obviously chose to run this time as Republican, for the votes, Hillary won't switch from Democrat.)


    You mean when Trump admits he's a Dem and was a Manchurian candidate?
    1654) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1815283)
    Posted 6 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Alex, there is a factor of Clyde you may not be considering. If Clyde is in person as he is on these boards, all those people telling him they are closet Trump supporters may simply be telling him that to shut him up.

    http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/39.htm
    SPOCK: It was far easier for you as civilized men to behave like barbarians, than it was for them as barbarians to behave like civilized men.


    Gary, I think you may be, at the least, assuming that Clyde is getting his info by informally polling those around him. Perhaps they are telling him this unsolicited. Perhaps they know he finds Donald dangerous. Then again, they ma not be telling him the truth. But they could be.

    Like Alex, I have said Nate Silver may not do so well this time. I believe I posted some links breaking down some reasons why.
    1655) Message boards : Politics : America's Shame (Message 1815180)
    Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh and using their own vehicle likely means that vehicle is paying personal use tax levels and not commercial vehicle tax levels. Stopping this is just easy. Since they put a sticker in the window, the license plate camera on the cop car sees the sticker, reads the plate, checks the database and if it isn't commercial ... ding ding ding! Car goes right to the impound yard, driver cited for not having a commercial drivers license, points assessed and their insurance will eventually get a copy of their citation and their rate goes through the roof.

    In an ideal world.

    You have been keeping up with what the police are doing with license plate reading cameras haven't you?


    Not I. I haven't driven since June 2008.

    Hehe.
    There goes my view and stereotype vision of a typical american out the window.
    Owning a car and if you have a family, several cars.
    And those who wants to active themeself going to some gym and complaining that the parking lot is so "far" away...

    It's still a draw between America's shame and other countries shame!


    I have not owned a car since 1995.
    Except for 2001-2002, when I was 4 miles away, I've managed to live within 1-2 miles of where I was working (or, studying/working for part of that time period).
    Nonetheless, walking at least 2 miles most days is not enough to keep in shape, so, yes, I do currently go to the gym but don't worry about the distance from the parking lot. :)
    1656) Message boards : Politics : America's Shame (Message 1815098)
    Posted 5 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh and using their own vehicle likely means that vehicle is paying personal use tax levels and not commercial vehicle tax levels. Stopping this is just easy. Since they put a sticker in the window, the license plate camera on the cop car sees the sticker, reads the plate, checks the database and if it isn't commercial ... ding ding ding! Car goes right to the impound yard, driver cited for not having a commercial drivers license, points assessed and their insurance will eventually get a copy of their citation and their rate goes through the roof.

    In an ideal world.

    You have been keeping up with what the police are doing with license plate reading cameras haven't you?


    Not I. I haven't driven since June 2008.
    1657) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1815021)
    Posted 4 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump brings message of unity to black church in Detroit

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/03/politics/donald-trump-black-voters-detroit/index.html

    Donald Trump strikes a softer tone in Mexico but holds fast to his stand against illegal immigration

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-mexico-visit-20160831-snap-story.html

    Where is Fraudlairly?

    Fraudlairly, and her supporters, are living in a Dream World.


    Trump looked and sounded weak and deferential (fake?) during that speech. Will his supporters say he was strong?
    1658) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814862)
    Posted 3 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Guy: great that you rescued some folks. But your analogy is flawed. A better analogy is that we now have sloop manufacturers deliberately designing sloops to fail at a certain point in time. Impossible to catch in advance. Can't blame "inexperienced folks trying to sail with the big boys". Some of these big boys get sold the time-bomb defective sloops, too. Derivatives, derivatives, derivatives, split, split, split. Take bets on when the defect will manifest itself, guess when it fails, guess when you get to laugh at the "poor saps".


    I believe you're twisting the analogy in order to disagree with me without explaining the inevitable outcome of what you are advocating. I believe I *can* blame inexperienced sailors trying to sail with the big boys if they don't learn some basics about sailing.

    Errm, JaundicedEye said "Rising tides really do lift all boats", with no stated requirements for experience on the part of the sailors. If anybody is twisting the analogy to suit their own ends ...


    It's clear Guy barely read the post, as I said the new analogy is that CLEVERLY CRAFTED SLOOPS ARE NOW BEING MADE TO DEFECTIVE THAT CANNOT BE DETECTED IN ADVANCE ARE NOW BEING SOLD, INCLUDING TO THE EXPERIENCED.
    1659) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814861)
    Posted 3 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde: Trump and many of his supporters are clamoring for the wall.
    Change the name on the shirts to Hillary and 1/2 the meaning of the picture is lost. You only refer to the education. Not "The Wall" (Pink Floyd song reference). Still a deeper look into Hillary reveals she's created policies causing a need for immigration, then forces those that do try to immigrate back out. IIRC, she has also called for fences as well.

    Sarge...

    Sorry for the delayed response.

    Disagree about 'The Wall' being the Primary attack against Trump supporters.

    It was "educated". As if that matters regarding beliefs, or having an unsound mind and judgement.

    There appears to be (actually real) belief among many Anti-Trump Intellectuals. That they are superior to Trump supporters.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The intellectual is different from the ordinary man, but only in certain sections of his personality, and even then not all the time.


    --- George Orwell

    I think Sarge was trying to draw your attention to a pop culture reference:

    Pink Flyod wrote:
    We don't need no education
    We don't need no thought control
    No dark sarcasm in the classroom
    Teachers leave them kids alone
    Hey teacher leave them kids alone
    All in all it's just another brick in the wall
    All in all you're just another brick in the wall
    (source)

    As for belief in one's own superiority, you might want to start looking closer to home, implicit in your "Trump must go" or "Clinton must go" comments are statements of your superiority to the people that selected these two as candidates.


    Precisely. The cartoon, having been a Pink Floyd-ish cartoon, refering education and walls, can only be about Trump.

    A NON-Floyd referenced cartoon, NOT refering walls, but the intelligence or lack thereof of Clinton supporters can do whatever they want. She's not the one calling for a wall. And Pink Floyd did not just write an entire album focused only on walls or only on education.
    1660) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814771)
    Posted 3 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Rising tides really do lift all boats.


    Wrong.
    The boats anchored to bottom end up being swamped.

    Poster was told this before and ignored it. It may not have passed through his rose colored glasses.http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1813699


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1813674 you mean? :)

    @Guy: great that you rescued some folks. But your analogy is flawed. A better analogy is that we now have sloop manufacturers deliberately designing sloops to fail at a certain point in time. Impossible to catch in advance. Can't blame "inexperienced folks trying to sail with the big boys". Some of these big boys get sold the time-bomb defective sloops, too. Derivatives, derivatives, derivatives, split, split, split. Take bets on when the defect will manifest itself, guess when it fails, guess when you get to laugh at the "poor saps".

    It is well documented that Trump spent many years as a registered Democrat. It is well documented that he has praised William JEFFERSON and Hillary RODHAM Clinton and even Barack HUSSEIN Obama. I'm sure you knew he campaigned for a bit in 2000 in a reform party, which could have pitted him against George W. Bush.

    I would not be surprised if you've argued somewhere "people don't change". If so, why do you believe Trump is one of the few that can change his spots?

    It is approximately the last 3 years that he has been speaking the way he currently does. He found his angle. He's studied you, the Republican base for years. His populism is probably largely stolen from Bernie Sanders, repackaged, some with a right wing spin, angled to suck in the right wing base.

    What do we have to lose???

    That is such a weak argument, regardless of who tries to employ it.

    Many of us here and elsewhere, of all stripes and different backgrounds, different political leanings, etc. .... many of suspect we have a lot to lose. What precisely we will lose is the question.

    Wiggo is right that we don't know what Trump will do because he has offered so many positions on one issue. It is even worse than Wiggo says. It is barely an exaggeration to say Trump can hold five positions on one issue in five minutes.

    Makes it hard to answer what exactly could/would be lost.
    1661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1814733)
    Posted 2 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Watched Thor last nite. He does good work.

    The reindeer in Norway were very impressed.

    Thor's will be done!
    1662) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814732)
    Posted 2 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ Wiggo you country would create much good will in North America if you took him back.

    Or silence him, perhaps a nice long tax fraud term and forfeiture?

    Well seeing as he gave up being an Aussie to become a Yank back in 1985 there's not a great deal we can do with him these days. But you guys did welcome him with open arms though when yous could've said no. :-D

    Cheers.


    When you (and Glenn) say "you", I assume you think the entire USA is responsible. Correct?
    1663) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814718)
    Posted 2 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, now, Dull, your screen name is supposed to be something about me, not Bobby. Though I wonder if including his name has finally raised your shenanigans to an banishable offense? :)

    Clyde: Trump and many of his supporters are clamoring for the wall.
    Change the name on the shirts to Hillary and 1/2 the meaning of the picture is lost. You only refer to the education. Not "The Wall" (Pink Floyd song reference). Still a deeper look into Hillary reveals she's created policies causing a need for immigration, then forces those that do try to immigrate back out. IIRC, she has also called for fences as well.
    1664) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814480)
    Posted 1 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are some very sick people around here

    Possibly many are listeners of Faux News headed of course by Murdoch who your country won't take back.

    Can you blame us for not wanting him back? :-O

    Cheers.


    Can we be on topic? :)
    1665) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1814382)
    Posted 1 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That felon, clinton, is a complete fraud.

    If she takes the white house next, she will be the in the highest leadership position in the U.S. (and some might say the free world.)

    I was a student of leadership (you never stop learning) for many years and had followers watch what I did and listen to everything I said and believed anything I said was absolutely correct for no other reason than being in a position of authority/leadership/trust.

    As a leader, you learn quickly people follow what you do more than what you say. As a student of leadership, one of the things you learn very quickly is if you create a standard, that standard must meet three criteria: It must be universally known, it must be consistently applied, and it must be non-selectively enforced. If it does not meet all three of these standards, all you do is make people angry. If you try to hold people to a standard that you do not hold yourself to, all you do is make people angry.

    If that felon, clinton, takes the white house next, she will anger more Americans. (as if enough aren't angry enough as it is.)

    As a leader, people will follow her example--some blindly for no other reason other than the fact that she's in a leadership position.

    Her example (time and time again) is to ignore the laws she doesn't believe she needs to follow -- for what ever reason, usually because she thinks laws are for people who don't know how to think for themselves and if she had followed those laws, she could not have made it to where she is today.

    If she leads with this example, how many other people are going to start ignoring laws because they think they are smarter than the laws they are not following and believe they would not be able to achieve their greatest potential if they followed all the laws?

    Personally, I don't see how she can take the white house next, unless her Department of Homeland Security takes control of the election process and rigs it.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-eyes-special-declaration-to-take-charge-of-elections/article/2600592

    There's only one other choice. What's more dangerous? Continuing on our current path which is leading us to banana republic status? Or standing up and demanding to the world that we maintain our unique national identity? (I guess this depends on who you're trying to protect.)

    If she takes the white house next, I give up. Don't blame me for the things that are going to get worse.


    AUTHORITARIANISM kills.
    1666) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1814381)
    Posted 1 Sep 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alex nailed it. "What do you have to lose by trying Clinton or Trump? LOYT!
    1667) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1814173)
    Posted 31 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump plays the politics of fear but it is more him I fear than the boogeymen and boogeywomen he presents and says he'll protect us from.
    1668) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1814034)
    Posted 31 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Breitbart produced, Trump's advisor.
    Christian ISIL.

    I see.
    Stephen K. Bannon, the head of Breitbart News, a conservative website that is one of Trump’s earliest and most loyal media allies.
    He and Manafort will be joined in the inner circle by Kellyanne Conway.
    And Manafort that has a tight connection with Putin.

    God bless America...


    Ummm ... hasn't Manafort been out for a week?
    1669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Star Trek Beyond (Message 1814003)
    Posted 31 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Enjoyed "Fairest of them All". Now that is an example of taking an arc further.
    1670) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1813998)
    Posted 31 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this what Trump watch and then will make some foundation of a future US policy?
    Then I get nervous.

    R0TFLMA0!

    Of course US policy is founded in You Tube videos.

    Thanks Jan that made my day. ;^)


    And Trump hasn't referred to a video in the last few weeks, criticizing current US policies towards Iran? And Trump wouldn't then form his own approach 180 degrees from his interpretation of that video and of the policies?

    Did not Carly Fiorina early on refer to a video? Did that not suggest policy actions (attempted or enacted) for those currently in the House and Senate?
    1671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1813891)
    Posted 30 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meanwhile at Peter Parker's window...


    ^
    !
    1672) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1813888)
    Posted 30 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 year ago today, somewhere, "Sarge" wrote:
    Stumbled onto Trump talking on C-Span. 5 minutes in, brief mention of "I want to build a wall" and the rest like Eminem complaining Fred Durst dissed him.
    Oh, now he's comparing his idea to the Great Wall of China. (Wait, will he actually do a comparison or go off on a bunch more tangents.)
    But, yes, please, let's consider the pros and cons of that ancient decision.
    And more recently, of the pros and cons of the Berlin Wall.
    My prediction: Trump elected? Then he builds a wall? A whole bunch more of US will have difficulty trying to travel OUT of the country.
    [
    1673) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1813887)
    Posted 30 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Adding Intolerant and Narrow Minded Atheists, Secular Ideologues and Religious Fanatics.,


    Clyde buddy, your gonna' cut out most of the posters with a rule like that eh?




    DO not tolerate intolerance.
    Or, "I can learn to resist ... anything but temptation" (Rush [the Canadian hard rock band, not the pundit]).
    1674) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1813674)
    Posted 30 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A quote from an old British film, possibly Monty Python went "Money is not the root of all evil, it's the whole bloody tree"........so true on both sides.

    My feeling is it's more logical to make it easier for someone of moderate intelligence to generate wealth than to 'redistribute' wealth generated by someone of moderate intelligence. Trump, no matter his failings, is more likely to achieve that state than Hiliary.

    Rising tides really do lift all boats.


    Or, those people that create the rising tides that also put their houses on stilts don't get their houses washed away?
    1675) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1813632)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Mexican president did already tell Trump .... about Mexico paying for his wall.

    Clinton or Trum could both start more wars. Both are hawkish, Trump just has his hair styled like a hawk.

    But, to tie your two posts together (Ddrth and what/who you responded to), why is Hillary corrupt. Hmmm. Greed! COngratulations on praising what makes Hillary so bad? Guy? (AUTHORARIANISM kills.)
    1676) Message boards : News : "Baffling" "signal" "from HD 164595" is probably none of the above. (Message 1813559)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the expected information. I wonder if the person announcing needs funding? I shouldn't be so cynical I suppose.


    :)
    1677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1813558)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor vs Santa?
    The mysterious loss of reindeers has been blamed on a lightning strike.
    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/environment/20160829/1044731337/norway-reindeer-death-lightning.html


    I've read/heard Santa is avtually Odin, anyway, co-opted by ... .
    1678) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Juno spacecraft approaching Jupiter (Message 1813556)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, it may take a week. Download from Jupiter is not fast, due to power limits.
    Tullio


    Indeed.
    1679) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Juno spacecraft approaching Jupiter (Message 1813504)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Monday we may see some new pictures.


    That's today! :)
    1680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1813503)
    Posted 29 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    only TWO captions in 24 hours? C'mon folks, put on your thinking caps!


    I like to jump out after having just won something, plus a new semester has begun.
    1681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1813193)
    Posted 28 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Due to circumstances beyond my control I'm not going to be able to post anything for at least another day, so, it is with some regret I request that the baton be passed to KWSN who was in second place.
    So, if it is OK with Sarge, he may post a picci for yo to all enjoy & caption.


    That'd be fine.
    Should Ipm?
    1682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1813003)
    Posted 27 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3. Carlos with wish I had a stick.
    2. KWsn with extremely temporary she protection.

    Winner is Rob with eyes protected but I can't breathe.

    Sending pm.
    1683) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1812844)
    Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here in Tennessee they can't even drive safely in the rain. If it were raining at 5:00 PM during the drive home from work (15 miles) I could count on seeing at least 5 wrecks. Most of these were caused by Bubbas in their pick-up trucks who liked to tailgate you at 75 Miles per hour wet or dry.

    As long as you have good tires and an uncluttered road, 100MPH is perfectly safe on a not-too-curvy stretch of Interstate Highway.

    I like to drive fast in open, lightly travelled and lightly patrolled Interstate highways especially when I have hundreds of miles to travel that day. When there is rain or snow on the highway I slow down and, as always, maintain a wide interval between myself and the car ahead of me.

    Stupid is as stupid does.


    Driver's ed and Dad taught me 4 seconds apart. By 2000, people we're doing 2 seconds and one claimed that's what HE'D been taught in driver's ed in NW OHio. People these days are doing 1-2 seconds.
    1684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1812843)
    Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So on Friggsday it becomes mandatory overtime.

    Hope everyone had a great Thorsday.


    Mandatory? You make them work too hard!
    1685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812800)
    Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Need 3 more. (Counting Carlos' last as 2.) Looks like we go into over time. A little under 25 more hours to go~
    1686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812773)
    Posted 26 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Need 5 more entries. (Has been about 22 hours.)
    1687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812601)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6 hours, 4 entries. Let's see if we can have 12 more in a total of 24 hours?
    1688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812526)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I've got a bun in the oven! (Daphne's Blog) (Message 1812470)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No child should be subjected with living with Trump hair. :)
    1690) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1812379)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post something on topic or buh bye!
    1691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812374)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zapped Sparky.

    Or

    I don't need a rolling pin.

    Or

    Nikola Tesla's competition.

    Or

    Time to crack the whip on those two candidates.


    Don't you mean "Edison's competition"? *Was it not Edison that stole from the actual work of Tesla?_

    (Consider this an entry, along with brief discussion.)
    1692) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1812371)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are coming up sorely lacking. It is you that should stand down. BUH BYE!

    Let me guess.
    After your 3 post tirade against me in another thread,
    you sent me a PM, and then to be petulant you placed me on ignore, so i couldn't respond.
    I've seen this pattern before from you, as i suspect many others have.

    Just because You attempt to teach children, does not mean you have to be one.

    You've seen it before? That's an interesting statement from somebody that joined 5 days ago. Makes me wonder why you took such offense at being given a label by another poster.


    Just say buh bye to him.
    See the assumptions he's making?
    Teach "children"?
    He's coming up not huuuge.
    Buh bye, Guido.
    1693) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1812347)
    Posted 25 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Being sarcastically contrarian): Did you? DID YOU? :)

    I suspect that when other posters ignore you, in a thread that you started,
    even when you are responding to a poster responding to another poster,
    that,
    "Your post is a Contradiction in Terms". :)


    You are coming up sorely lacking. It is you that should stand down. BUH BYE!
    1694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812275)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lady Liberty takes Metallica's "Ride the Lightning" a little too literally.[/url]
    1695) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1812274)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I was just about to respond but I think Bobby hit the nail on the head better than I could. And yes, sorry, it is non-ionizing, not non-ionized. My bad.


    I long ago learned that Bobby almost exclusively disagrees for the sake of disagreeing.

    Did I disagree with anything you posted? I thought I added some information to the discussion.


    (Being sarcastically contrarian): Did you? DID YOU? :)
    1696) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1812270)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just another Ross Perot, or 'Teddy' Roosevelt (1912)?

    To the Johnson supporters:

    Johnson will only split the Anti-Establishment vote. Handing the victory to Hillary.

    YES!!!!!

    Hillary is a Fraud, Corrupt, a Puppet of the International Capitalists, and Totally Incompetent.

    Trump is Dangerous!

    So you obviously support Drumpf over Clinton correct?


    I think we all know, no, he does not.
    [EDIT: if we expect Clyde to read precisely what we say and not assume words and ideas we have not put forward. then it is only fair to afford him the same respect no matter how often we may disagree.]
    1697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1812233)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Monday.
    Let's see if we can come up with something appropriate for this. Try not to make it too political.



    "Ben Franklin ain't got NOTHING on ME, Lady LIBERTY!"
    1698) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1812232)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    She has talked about "wi-fi radiation", but not cell phones to my knowledge.
    1699) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1812231)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having second thought regarding my subscription.


    I agree with you, after fifty years I decided that I
    no longer needed a newspaper editor to lie to me about
    the con' any more. All I do now is just figure who is
    making what money from any issue, and all is then clear
    to me.
    Again I say, we think you should fix this condition as
    soon as you can before even more hurt happens.
    Of course Canada is moving in to a similar circumstance,
    hopefully we may use your experience as a guide to our
    own restoration.



    This also replies to your recent post in the GJ thread ... .

    1) We have the candidates we have, in part, because in some states independents cannot take part in primaries or caucuses. Must I fake agreeing with one party more in order to be able to help narrow the field? Hopefully to a better field?

    2) Corrupting money from the donor class. Should we be looking into organizations seeking to get each state to call for a constitutional convention working for the repeal of the Citizens United ruling? Organizations such as Wolf-Pack and Represent.Us? Can these gain "bipartisan" and independent support?
    1700) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1812198)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A far as I'm concerned we have two assclowns running for President.

    In four years you will wish you had two choices as good as these two. Our system is broke as it is all about the game now, not running the country.

    The really, really frightening thing is, you're probably right.


    I don't think there's any reason to doubt anymore.
    The media covers campaigns as in a horse race.
    1701) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1811958)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am sure Gary was referring to the speed of their ... flagella?
    1702) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1811955)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PitifulPeacePrizin'Hustlin'BIGLYHussein, Doin' Da WEDGE Politics Again wif Da TransAgender BullShat.
    DEM/Libs LOSE BIGLY Every Time they Insert A Wedgie into Elections.
    I Care BIGLY Dat A Toilet Flushes, Faucets work, Gots Butt/Hand Paper, Privacy Shields in Place, and Da Friggin' Bathroom DooozNot Stank like a mO fO, and Is Clean.
    Other Dan Dat, who Wears Skirts, Pants, etc etc etc don't mean a Thang.
    Got Wedge?
    Got Ballistic Missile?
    Da Wall is Comin'
    Hey Tollah, How's Your Buddy Barry Workin' fO Ya?
    BIG DON'S Taxes is NOBODY'S BUSINESS
    Yap.

    B.E.N./Yapper you do realize the contradiction that you're in? Right?
    You only care about "How Clean".
    States want to check your birth-certificate.

    Is it really Obama's Fault?


    account abandoned in May.
    1703) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1811951)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone Knows, Da Tollahs Know, Dat All Americans Are Now Worth, at Minimum, 100 MILLION Dollars.
    Dat Makes Me Feel GOoD. REAL GOoD.
    I'm A 100 MILLION Dolla Man.
    At Minimum.
    Thanks Taxpayers.
    Yap is REAL GOoD.

    Ya know B.E.N. i actually believe you.
    But if you want to throw a real Seti Party, you would send your Gulfstream to pick us beggars up, for a Real Cosmic Party.
    I want to drive your Ducati from the Airstrip to your Mansion.

    I transcribe "Da Tollahs" to "I Told You".

    Do i get paid now?


    2 referrals to B.E.N., a long ago used name for Dull. Fascinating.
    1704) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1811950)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull, do you love me? Can I be the inspiration for yet another of your screen names? I'm straight, but let me be your muse! Ha ha ha ha!

    There used to be a guido that posted here in the forums. But that guido would have a posting history and an old sign up date.


    Batter up. Swing away, Merrill Marie Pierre.

    It actually is Guido.

    It was Gary who accused me of being a sock puppet after 2 initial posts.
    I've watched the videos you post in the "whatever self post crap is worth posting thread", and it's not.

    Please Stand Down.


    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You hurt my FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS!
    1705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Star Trek Beyond (Message 1811944)
    Posted 24 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.


    I can't agree with that in regard to the TNG movies. Generations, besides having Kirk, Scotty, Chekov, and Sulu's daughter... I forgot what I was going to say. First Contact brought back a character from TOS and Borg developments from Voyager, plus a cameo by the Defiant from DS9. Insurrection didn't weave in anything notable from the past (unless you count Riker and Troi finally getting back together), but I thought it was underappreciated, especially for its humor (Data to Worf: Have you noticed how your boobs are starting to firm up?). 10 I didn't like so much; the cameo by Janeway was completely gratuitous.


    I question how deep the "nods" in "Generations" and "First Contact" were. Also, you and I may need to double check the Voyager episodes. Off hand, I suspect "First Contact" came out 1/2 to 1 year before the "Scorpion" episodes where Botager (first?) encountered the Borg.
    1706) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1811699)
    Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull, do you love me? Can I be the inspiration for yet another of your screen names? I'm straight, but let me be your muse! Ha ha ha ha!

    There used to be a guido that posted here in the forums. But that guido would have a posting history and an old sign up date.


    Batter up. Swing away, Merrill Marie Pierre.
    1707) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1811688)
    Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The REAL problem with Monsanto appears to be that the seeds from their crops spread to nearby non-GMO fields and then they sue the farmers for growing their patented GMO crops. Perhaps that is a subject for another thread?
    1708) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1811684)
    Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dull, do you love me? Can I be the inspiration for yet another of your screen names? I'm straight, but let me be your muse! Ha ha ha ha!
    1709) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811683)
    Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Revealed: Donald JOHN Trumps's Debt.
    1710) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1811660)
    Posted 23 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Establishment Democrats Are Worried About The Clinton Foundation /
    1711) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1811567)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So you have the luxury to throw muslims, blacks, women, homesexuals, hispanics and so on under the bus to salve your conscience? Because in this regard there is a clear difference between the candidates that are likely to win.


    This is "identity politics", is it not? I think you know me well enough, including through my recent posts, regarding what I think about discrimination.

    However, a case has been made (one I believe) that if we handled the economic problems of Main Street, not Wall Street, the puppet masters would have a much smaller audience trying to play divide and conquer with the 99%.

    I could try to present you links making the argument.

    One was posted by a black friend of mine on social media. "Racebaiting: 101". It addressed our implicit 3 tier caste system. Another source is internet pundit Kyle Kulinski.

    Trump offers so many positions and speaks so negatively, it is hard to believe he will help economically and will not discriminate.

    Hillary will not be another Obama. She's even further right of the neo-liberal rightist Obama. She''ll probably make token to good faith efforts in the identity politics realm, reducing discrimination, but still 99% of us will be thinking about the economics of Main Street.

    Johnson has a much smaller chance, but if he got in would probably throw us under the economic bus as well.

    Stein might try to help both reduce discrimination and help economically, but she's got even less of a chance than Johnson, would have a heck of a fight with both houses of Congress if she were elected and I still wants to know where she stands on anti- or pseudo-science things.

    I don't think we have ANY decent choices.


    Racebaiting 101; i.e., it's the Main STreet Economy, Es.
    1712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Star Trek Beyond (Message 1811543)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Probably yes. That Next Generation episode about the meta-morph was without phaser fire, if I recall correctly. The Next Generation episode about the culture whose linguistic system was based on metaphors (one of my "favs", of course, as a lover of language) was a great example of the extremely judicious use of violence.


    "The river Tamok! Iiiinnn wiiinnnter!"

    "Darmok ... and ... Jalaad ... at Tanagra?"

    Not sure about the original Star Trek... better experts here than me. Same deal for Deep Space 9 and Voyager and most of the movies.

    Anyway, a little phaser fire, used in moderation, can be a good thing. Non-stop phaser fire, explosions and falls from which one could not possibly survive physically intact are completely beyond my ability to appreciate.

    If I were 19, perhaps I would think Star Trek Beyond was a great movie.

    At 53, I am simply too old for such nonsense.


    I think every movie, from Generations on, has disrespected the years worth of story telling (building story arcs lasting several episodes to seasons to other series) more and more and it has proportionally become more about stunning us visually.
    1713) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1811514)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We used to have two competing political parties. One wanted more power and control, the other wanted to push as much power and authority down to the lowest level. We don't have that anymore.

    Never did. We had one party that wanted to control the bedroom and the other wanted to control the wallet. It was inevitable that control would win.


    Dear Guy: after Gary's post, the younguns' add "Ohhh, SNAP!"
    1714) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1811499)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So you have the luxury to throw muslims, blacks, women, homesexuals, hispanics and so on under the bus to salve your conscience? Because in this regard there is a clear difference between the candidates that are likely to win.


    This is "identity politics", is it not? I think you know me well enough, including through my recent posts, regarding what I think about discrimination.

    However, a case has been made (one I believe) that if we handled the economic problems of Main Street, not Wall Street, the puppet masters would have a much smaller audience trying to play divide and conquer with the 99%.

    I could try to present you links making the argument.

    One was posted by a black friend of mine on social media. "Racebaiting: 101". It addressed our implicit 3 tier caste system. Another source is internet pundit Kyle Kulinski.

    Trump offers so many positions and speaks so negatively, it is hard to believe he will help economically and will not discriminate.

    Hillary will not be another Obama. She's even further right of the neo-liberal rightist Obama. She''ll probably make token to good faith efforts in the identity politics realm, reducing discrimination, but still 99% of us will be thinking about the economics of Main Street.

    Johnson has a much smaller chance, but if he got in would probably throw us under the economic bus as well.

    Stein might try to help both reduce discrimination and help economically, but she's got even less of a chance than Johnson, would have a heck of a fight with both houses of Congress if she were elected and I still wants to know where she stands on anti- or pseudo-science things.

    I don't think we have ANY decent choices.
    1715) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811490)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!

    Howard Roark (Mr. Ayn Rand?). Is a very interesting character, with many valid observations and ideas.

    But as most fanatics disclose, if they gain power: "My way, or..."


    Spoiler as to what happens after the first quarter of the book?

    No spoiler...

    Just a general observation.

    What he does, his explanation, and where he explains...

    You will not put the book down.


    I have no problem with wanting to be functional and original. Creative. I am sometimes creative.

    I do have a problem with the idea that following anything classic is sub-human.

    Putting in the realm of architecture? Maybe interesting in the 1920s? Now? It's boring?

    Ms. Francon and Mr. Toohey and the dances they do to appear different? Boring.
    Roarke and Ms. Francon's weird submission/domination dance? Perhaps a bit creepy, what I've read so far.

    Should continued reading shed any light for me, understanding the minds of others? Particularly, Trump and his supporters?
    1716) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1811487)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Demonstrated? Try hypothesized, lol,
    1717) Message boards : Politics : Jill Stein anti-science? (Message 1811449)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is she? I've seen some evidence for it, but several websites available I did not check as they appear spurious. Es and Ozz indicated they were aware of Stein's anti- or pseudo-science bent, so could they or others provide more background?
    1718) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811447)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand

    May Director Comy sleep well at night......


    Anywho:

    1) Couldn't this go in the Hillary RODHAM Clinton thread? This thread is for Donald JOHN Trump and in your post, it lacks the sometimes necessary overlap.

    2) This is one of the few things Rand says that makes complete sense. Are we sure she didn't actually say "When a man cannot make the courts agree with him, he's not truly a man ... not worthy of being called human"?
    1719) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811435)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!

    Howard Roark (Mr. Ayn Rand?). Is a very interesting character, with many valid observations and ideas.

    But as most fanatics disclose, if they gain power: "My way, or..."


    Spoiler as to what happens after the first quarter of the book?
    1720) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811373)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand

    May Director Comy sleep well at night......


    Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!
    1721) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811343)
    Posted 22 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald JOHN Trump shall be to US politics what Ryan Lochte is to US olympics ... a liar that disappoints.
    1722) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811061)
    Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is THAT legal? (Trade Federation to Palpatine/Sidious: "Is that LEGAL?")
    The short answer is yes. The question is 'Is it Moral?', probably not depending on your personal definition of 'moral'(Hiliary, Soros, Buffett, Gates, Bloomberg, et. al. do it as it is an accepted risk of swimming with sharks, you stand the chance of being the meal.).


    Really? We hear a lot about fiduciary duty in this forum ... .
    1723) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811051)
    Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least Donald Trump knows not to lie in front of a grand jury, judge or congressional hearing.


    Wow that's one hell of a leap to say he wouldn't lie before Congress . seeing as you don't personally know him .

    Of cause his workers at his company's I would say think about him differently .

    Maybe it's best you don't vote seeing as you have made assumption about Trump so easily and don't understand human nature . Trumps nature would be to lie you can't get to where he is if your not a good B/s artist and lie .

    To go Bankrupt 4 times is to lie about what was happening at those company's ergo that why he has court cases pending about his bankruptcy's


    #DJTsFellowStakeHoldersDeserveTrmpSteaksToo
    Well, not to defend Trump the Poisonous, but....

    Bankruptcy is an accepted business practice and is TOTALLY legal. A LOT of businesses are set up specifically to go bankrupt, providing a tax loss for their owners, to reduce the taxes owed on other businesses that they own.

    The business is set up, and operates at a 'loss' for a period of time... Then, bankruptcy, and the business goes *poof*.... Rinse... Repeat....

    Also, bankruptcy is a way to get out of undesired contracts.

    Furthermore, litigation is an accepted business method these days, not to mention a 'jobs program' for legions of lawyers. Again... its legal.

    Trump the Poisonous has enough stuff that is actually *wrong* with him and what he has done/ is doing...

    Bankruptcy and 'excessive litigation' don't need to be incorrectly invoked.


    We the PEOPLE invoke that Donald JOHN Trump did take his PERSONAL debts and move them into companies in which he shared some stake, saddled them, crushed them and leaving the companies and other stakeholders holding the bag after DJT got out of undesired situations. Is THAT legal? (Trade Federation to Palpatine/Sidious: "Is that LEGAL?")
    1724) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1811038)
    Posted 21 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The ruling class? Politicians are the puppets of the donors. The donors do the true ruling. Trump has donated for years. Trump has already been ruling.
    1725) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1810784)
    Posted 20 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.

    Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.
    1726) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1810759)
    Posted 20 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    if you elect Hillary
    your democracy shall survive, for now.


    I am not smelling any roses here. What I smell is a lot more onerous and foul.

    We are vastly socialist now. If the trend continues under Madam Clinton then there will be riots and another civil war when the money runs out and those on the indolent's dole find that the Government tit goes dry and payment on the borrowing and loans come due.

    Her policies, like Obama's, will assure that there are more people in poverty who are dependent on the government for food, housing, health care, higher education, free day care, a blind eye to civil crime and disorder and so on. These people like big government and will vote Democratic for the promise of a bigger handout for less work.


    Indeed, William JEFFERSON Clinton and Barack HUSSEIN Obama continued Reagan's flood up economics, a redistribution of wealth. Not only that, Obama use a Republican health care plan when he could have gone left on it given how many DEMOcrats were in the House and Senate at the time. Hillary's going to be ven further right of Obama.
    1727) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810640)
    Posted 20 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is the state of the Union, buddy.
    And if I can be so bold to admit this......
    The selling out of our country to illegal immigrants who were born to take handouts and vote Democratic to reward those giving out our tax dollars to those who do not deserve, nor have earned nor paid for them.

    These are not Klu Klux Klan members who feel this way, but, as the chestnut term goes....'Honest, law abiding white folk'.....who have paid their dues and taxes for years and see their influence in our government coming to nothing.

    Whether you believe that is right or wrong, they and I are NOT bigots or racists.

    They simply wish the borders to be protected and their rights and protections not given away willy nilly to any special interest group that raises their voice.

    Trump, I believe, has struck a chord with those of us who have worked all of our life to pay into the system and wish it to remain intact when we need it.
    Which I shall have to just not too many years from now. Not to see liberal democrats give it away from under our feet.

    This is the fear that Trump is playing into, and sadly, I am afraid it is a real fear.

    I only wish for hope and change, just not the brand of it that Obama has delivered.


    And the reason Obama did not deliver om hope and change is because hs is a neo-liberal, like the Clintons. Which means, they are essentially Republicans excpet on a few social issues ,such as abortion ands gay marriage. And notice how long it took both Barack and Hillary on gay marriage, even.
    1728) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810596)
    Posted 20 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What Motivates Trump Supporters, Bigotry Or Economic Strife?

    Caution: some swear words.
    1729) Message boards : Politics : Anyone else supporting Bernie Sanders for president? (Message 1810593)
    Posted 20 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Too bad neither Bernie nor Biden will be the next President.


    Biden might be OK. Bernie is Mao Tse Tung with a goofy face and bad hair.

    Understand about Bernie. But...

    After watching his performance during a Cooper 360 Town Hall Meeting on CNN:

    Found that Socialist Bernie, unlike Obama. Understands he has to 'work' with his Political Opponents in Congress, if he ever became President.

    IE: Get, what you can get. Negotiate the best deal. Go to the American people regarding the rest.

    His answers were close to what Reagan stated he did when President.

    Not Obama's stupid and incompetent 'My Way, or the Highway'.

    Even more interesting: His answers regarding International Trade Agreements. Could have come from Trumps mouth.


    More likely Trump's statements came from Bernie's mouth.
    1730) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810254)
    Posted 19 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IE: The Poster (you know who he is). Who has continually attacked Christians. Attack those, who attack Muslims, as Bigots. Then, I asked, why isn't he a 'Bigot' against Christians?


    So, you're saying he cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundametalist Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.

    BTW, OzzFan was a mod 9 years ago, so he and I go way back. He may go further back with the poster you do not wish to name than you do.

    Sarge...

    The 'Poster' I mentioned, wasn't OzzFan.

    The 'Poster' and I. Also go back a long time. With great disagreements.

    With Clinton or Trump, we'll get more of the same: flood up economics.

    Yes Sarge. I agree.


    So, you're saying he (the poster who shall not be named that is not OzzFan, added) cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundame[n]talist (sic on my part) Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.


    As for something relatively on topic, the above quote remains unanswered.
    And Clyde, the next part is not an attack: I do agree with others that you are missing some things being said and thus may not be responding to what they actually say.
    Case in point, a very minor example just occurred: I know your main disagreement is not with OzzFan. I know who it is with.
    The only reasons I included OzzFan at the end of my post are: (1) he's basically making the same point I am now and (2) you told him you have a long history of disagreements with "the poster you aren't naming right now", but Ozz has been here a looong time as well. Maybe longer when it comes to using the message boards. (I also suspect he has a pretty good memory.)
    1731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Phone scam from India-Your Microsft computer is crashing our system. (Message 1810240)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was privy to 15-20 minutes of a woman being harassed on her cell phone. The caller would not tell her where to send a payment being demanded. Long story short, when she hung up (stating she'd call back), I said "Sorry, but I think someone might be trying to scam you."
    1732) Message boards : Politics : Anyone else supporting Bernie Sanders for president? (Message 1810239)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FEEL DA BURN! Da SandMan, burnin' 600 THOU$AND $ocialist Buckarino$ on a THIRD HOME. And It's Lake Front.

    Man O Live. SOCIALISM LIVE$ and LIVE$ GOoD.

    A Third Home fO Every Amerikan. Prime Rib on Every $ocialist Plate.

    YeahBa. I Definitely SUPPORT BIG BIG BIG Money Bern.

    600K Yaps is a Lot of Yappin'


    1733) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810235)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With Clinton or Trump, we'll get more of the same: flood up economics.
    1734) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810193)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IE: The Poster (you know who he is). Who has continually attacked Christians. Attack those, who attack Muslims, as Bigots. Then, I asked, why isn't he a 'Bigot' against Christians?


    So, you're saying he cannot see the mote in the eyes of some fundametalist Muslims? I think you've missed quite a few of his posts.

    BTW, OzzFan was a mod 9 years ago, so he and I go way back. He may go further back with the poster you do not wish to name than you do.
    1735) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1810192)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hurts, don't it....


    Only if you listen to country music.
    1736) Message boards : Politics : Who has been the best U.S. President in your lifetime? (Message 1810067)
    Posted 18 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This question is open to everybody. Just talk about why a particular U.S. president was the best in your lifetime.


    Geoff Tate, 1985-1995.



    You're going to have to explain that one to me.


    Check with OzzFan.
    1737) Message boards : Politics : Who has been the best U.S. President in your lifetime? (Message 1809794)
    Posted 17 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This question is open to everybody. Just talk about why a particular U.S. president was the best in your lifetime.


    Geoff Tate, 1985-1995.
    1738) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : New Dwarf Planet Discovered Far Beyond Pluto's Orbit (Message 1809478)
    Posted 15 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah, found a news item that explains it - the 110 degree tilt is used to indicate the object is orbiting in the wrong direction. That is to say its orbit is in the opposite direction to the majority of the other objects in the Solar system.
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2100700-mystery-object-in-weird-orbit-beyond-neptune-cannot-be-explained/

    Hmmm.
    So if Niku should be orbiting in the same direction as the other objects in the solar system the tilt would be 20 degrees.
    I see, I think:)

    Whatever.
    That Niku is orbiting in an opposite direction is very remarkable.
    The tilt is unrelevant.


    Perhaps try thinking negative 70 degrees north, something like that?
    1739) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1808962)
    Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

    Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

    WinterKnight...

    Most?

    As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist?

    See The Problem?


    Live next door to a murderer. possibly dead. Live next door to a rapist, rapist could be killed by potential victim in self-defense.
    1740) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1808827)
    Posted 13 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7 hrs. of silence in the Politics forum? Guess Dil and guy got banned, eh?
    1741) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1808739)
    Posted 12 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald Trump’s golf resort in Aberdeenshire has admitted it failed to comply with strict data protection laws after not registering with the UK’s privacy watchdog, the Guardian can reveal.

    Why would anyone compare a Golf Course with The State Department?

    Do you expect a 70 year old man and those he brings into his organization to change their ways? If you do not, then we should expect a Trump presidency will have a private server in The White House, unsecured and so on ... .

    And how old is Hillary?

    In addition to her age. She is a fraud, and has an incompetent track record.

    Trump? Much more dangerous than Hillary.

    One of the many problems with these two.

    Perhaps both (not just Trump) can be 'dumped'. Our future would be more secure.


    I could easily look it up, but let's say she's at least 65. Just sliiightly younger than Trump.
    We have a good idea what Hillary has done as a politician.
    Trump hasn't been a politician. So now we have another piece of evidence on what he and his organization could be like.
    1742) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1808730)
    Posted 12 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald Trump’s golf resort in Aberdeenshire has admitted it failed to comply with strict data protection laws after not registering with the UK’s privacy watchdog, the Guardian can reveal.

    Why would anyone compare a Golf Course with The State Department?

    Do you expect a 70 year old man and those he brings into his organization to change their ways? If you do not, then we should expect a Trump presidency will have a private server in The White House, unsecured and so on ... .
    1743) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1808660)
    Posted 12 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump could ask if a postmenopausal woman can be trusted not to do the same.


    OK, let's de-age her back to the hot flashes. :P
    1744) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1808626)
    Posted 12 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    360 degrees = full circle = doing what they are already doing.
    1745) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1808375)
    Posted 10 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Though we don't and will never know for sure what Trump meant; it may well have been:

    If the supreme court changes or cancels the 2nd amendment and the Government tries to come and collect up the Nations 300 million Guns then these gun owners may not give them up; but instead, may use them to fend off the confiscators.

    It was probably said in ironic jest with a allusion to the "they will have to come and pry them out of my cold, dead hands" which is often repeated by fervent gun owners when a suggestion is made that the Government might someday want to collect up all of the legally held weapons in the land.

    Those whom are anti-Trump, which includes almost the entire Liberal Media, would be quick to attribute more sinister intent to his comments.

    Out of the 320 million people in the United States, how in the Hell did we come down to a choice between these two miscreants ?? I suspect it is because of the intentional division of the population into class warfare. All this for the permanent institution of voting blocks, and the desire to let each "CASTE" in society believe that they are or will be discriminated against. One or the other party getting into the White House will either take away something or grant more freebees to the indolent.

    Trump was created by the anger and revulsion to: Lawlessness, social welfare costs for the non-productive, rampant terrorism, failure after failure in the Middle East, lies, loss of jobs, Illegal immigrants, unsustainable National debt, bribes for and by special interests and do-nothing career politicians.


    Even FOX (or some there) refuse to play the spin game anymore.
    1746) Message boards : Politics : Erasing history? (Message 1808374)
    Posted 10 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Erasing history is a basic necessity in the fundamental transformation of this country into another failed communist nation. Besides, it'll be confusing to the school children if their town centers don't match their latest history school books.

    Nice avatar.

    Of course Donald Sutherland is from Canada, which happens to be a socialist country. His father in law is Tommy Douglas, who is a famous socialist Prime Minister who set up Canada's socialist healthcare. Just a little history lesson for you.

    Socialist? Ha, ha, ha.

    Every notice how Wealthy the 'Socialist' Leaders are?

    Just Crony Capitalism, under a different name.

    Of The Controller's - By The Controller's - For The Controller's.

    They are laughing all the way to the bank.

    Ha, ha, ha.


    Indeed, it is corporate socialist wealth redistribution flood up economics but what does this have to do with Gordon's discussion of a monument?
    1747) Message boards : Politics : End Socialism Now!!! (Message 1808372)
    Posted 10 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You all know that Christianity in it's purest form is nothing but socialism. Everybody works and shares what they don't need to exist with his or her neighbors.

    But of course it never works well no matter what you call it. With no incentives to produce more nobody produces much of anything.


    In flood up economics (corporate socialist wealth redistribution), it never works, because all that leaves the ones doing the producing for the so-called producers expend so much energy that after producing, about all they can do is pay the bills an maybe find a few ways to anesthetize themselves so they can sleep and get back up to do the producing. If that.
    1748) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1808239)
    Posted 10 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got a social list of your inflated view count yet? ;)
    1749) Message boards : Politics : Erasing history? (Message 1808049)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is a monument in my city that has stirred some controversy. It is a "Confederate Monument" which honors the dead soldiers from the Confederacy of the U.S. during the Civil War. Some say it should be taken away because of the relationship the Confederacy had with slavery. I feel that would be wrong because it would be taking away something that represents a historical period in the U.S.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_Monument_in_Louisville

    What do you think?


    It could be moved. Say, the Creation Museum or the Ark Encounter?

    'Questionable' Historical monuments. As long as it is not on top, or in front of a Government building...

    BTW: Which 'movement' and/or people decide?

    Where, when The Right in in control. Do the Statues to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. go?

    When Fundamentalist Muslims are in control of a City. Which Historical Monuments are they allowed to...

    The USA is degenerating into a Primitive and Intolerant Secular Theology. Trumpeted by the Orwellian Left.


    My previous comment was obviously sarcastic. However, rather than remove and destroy or hide a monument or something similar, such items CAN go to museums, etc. ... . Destroying or hiding these items is ... white-washing history.
    1750) Message boards : Politics : End Socialism Now!!! (Message 1808048)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh the chump train! (I love that stuff!) I'm on the chump train (and I can never get enough!) I'm on the chump train (ready to crash and burn, I never learn!)


    You have spotted the inspiration, Ozz and Clyde, yes, I think "flood up" is probably a better description than "trickled down" for this wealth redistribution.
    1751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Star Trek Beyond (Message 1808007)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Finally saw it. Yes there are plot problems and it's not your father's Star Trek, wait we are the old men now. It's not our Star Trek, but my son loved it. I did like the gentle throw backs.


    Change the franchise name. Change the character names. Change the ship designs. Would these stories fly or sink like a lead balloon?
    1752) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1807989)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just listened to The Donald speak for an hour in Detroit. He wants to cut taxes for the wealthy and we all would prosper from trickle down economics. For further prosperity getting rid of most regulations will be a boon for the country. After all rivers that catch on fire means factories won't have costly expenses. He envisions himself as a reincarnated Reagan who did have Alzheimer's He had so much to say.


    Flood up corporate socialism economics.
    1753) Message boards : Politics : Erasing history? (Message 1807977)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is a monument in my city that has stirred some controversy. It is a "Confederate Monument" which honors the dead soldiers from the Confederacy of the U.S. during the Civil War. Some say it should be taken away because of the relationship the Confederacy had with slavery. I feel that would be wrong because it would be taking away something that represents a historical period in the U.S.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_Monument_in_Louisville

    What do you think?


    It could be moved. Say, the Creation Museum or the Ark Encounter?
    1754) Message boards : Politics : End Socialism Now!!! (Message 1807975)
    Posted 8 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Choo. choo! Riding the chump train! (I'm making chump change.) I'm on the chump train. (Love that flood up economics!) I'm riding the chump train! (And something's ready to crash and burn.)
    1755) Message boards : Politics : Erasing history? (Message 1807776)
    Posted 7 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Erasing history is a basic necessity in the fundamental transformation of this country into another failed communist nation. Besides, it'll be confusing to the school children if their town centers don't match their latest history school books.

    Too funny that Mr "--" would post to a thread about erasing history.

    Isn't it just?

    I'm just ROTFLMFAO!!!!! :-D

    Thanks for such a good laugh Guy. ;-)

    Cheers.


    Rather Orwellian, in fact.
    1756) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807772)
    Posted 7 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    -[ snip ]-

    Then please tell me why it is that Clinton told her daughter, in an email, that she (Hillary) knew it was a planned terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11, but turned around and said the attack was because of some video on YouTube?

    There was too much irrelevant crap in the proposal from the Democrats which is why the Republicans denied it.

    Peace! :)

    Who exactly did we go to war with over the youtube video? The reason I ask is that was a similar conflation following 9/11, Bush/Cheney linked Saddam Hussein with Al Qaeda This conflation was repeated by other Republicans in the lead up to the war in Iraq. Pretty sure current evidence suggests that Saddam Hussein was no friend or ally of OBL.

    Did any of this make Bush untrustworthy enough for Republicans to withhold their votes in 2004, despite the 9/11 commission telling them that there was no collaborative relationship?

    How many US and allied troops died and were injured as a result?

    If we allow benefit of doubt, then we could give some to Clinton's argument that her mail to Chelsea was written in the fog of war, there was no such fog when Bush and Cheney re-iterated the link between Saddam and OBL in 2004.

    Perhaps Esme is right and their maybe some double standards at play.

    I have no idea what prompted your response which has nothing to do with what I was talking about. What war over a video? I said nothing about a war over a video.

    This is what I was referring to.

    Where in my post did I suggest a war was started over a youtube video? For all the bluster Republicans have made over the issue, no war was started on the basis of statements regarding the youtube video.


    Could it be the opening line of your response?

    Who exactly did we go to war with over the youtube video?
    1757) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807770)
    Posted 7 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do wish you would present some believable evidence not some over-hyped piece in the sensationalist comic called the Daily Mail.

    Try again, please.

    Dude, get off my back. If you don't like what I post, put me on ignore. I found that link with Google, and besides, it's from your own neck of the woods. If you're saying that that site or any site in your country is getting "it" wrong, than I have to wonder about all the links posted from non-U.S. citizens here from non-U.S. sites.

    I will let that post stand. You don't like it, don't read it.

    Peace! :)

    [edit]
    Ok, just to be fair about it, here's one from my country.
    [/edit]


    Stunning logic.
    1758) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807490)
    Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Concerns I have heard is that she is a warmonger. That seems a valid concern and not related to negative stereotypes about women. I am not sure where those concerns stem from, and would love to be enlightened.


    How many do you need? Shall we begin w/ the NY Times?

    How Hillary Clinton Became a Hawk
    1759) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807486)
    Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or better yet, leaving aside gender, the question should be: - Is she trustworthy enough to lead?

    This is why seti makes me sad.

    I post a video that shows how her honesty and capability has been questioned from since she barely graduated school. She has been an activist an involved in politics from before she met her husband. Time and time again from before she even had the chance to do anything..anything at all her trustworthiness was questioned and challenged.

    As she progresses through her career she is judged again and again and again and evidence is constructed and exaggerated to prove that she is not trustworthy. She is judged on harsher terms than her male peers who have done far worse with far less outcry. There is a huge double standard here, and watching you all twist and turn so you don't see it makes me sad.

    The sad terrible thing is that I totally recognise this behaviour. I've been a woman all my life and know exactly what she is up against.
    Women constantly have their judgement questioned in a way that men never do unless they actively do something crazy (see Trump). The fact that there is even a contest between her and Trump says it all.

    So I say again. Are you absolutely sure that you aren't subconsciously judging her on stereotypical assumptions of how women and men are supposed to behave? Because is really, really looks like it to me.

    Simply claiming that you judge men and women the same doesn't cut it because clearly, obviously, undoubtedly you are not.

    *goes away to bang head against a brick wall*


    I reiterate:

    My "issues" with Hilary reside in my fears that she might end up a "hawkish" president and that she might be a president who is more of a fiscal conservative than I would want her to be.


    ^
    |
    |
    |

    This.

    Jill Stein, on the other hand, appears to be non-hawkish and not a pro-corporatist neo-liberal. None of that has anything to do with gender. On the other hand, Jill is, to my knowledge, still not on the ballot in all 50 states. Furthermore, info is coming out about her views on vaccination and "wi-fi radiation" that could be non-evidence based and detrimental to gaining support. None of this has anything to do with gender.


    AND

    Bernie has pulled Hillary to the left, however those fears could be founded.


    McAuliffe: Clinton would flip-flop on TPP

    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe caused Hillary Clinton a political headache Tuesday night when he said he expects her to reverse her position on a major free trade deal.


    Gov. McAuliffe (D).

    Anyone want to place bets one of the first things Hillary does is something social, to reduce discriminiation? Perhaps all well and good, but nowhere near addressing our biggest concerns.
    1760) Message boards : Politics : Erasing history? (Message 1807484)
    Posted 6 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Powerful post, Ozz.
    1761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Star Trek Beyond (Message 1807331)
    Posted 5 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If they used none of the names or ship designs and did not call it Star Trek. how well would these movies do? And did anybody hear the sound effect that sounded like the pod racers from The Phantom Menace???
    1762) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807214)
    Posted 5 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bernie has pulled Hillary to the left, however those fears could be founded.


    McAuliffe: Clinton would flip-flop on TPP

    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe caused Hillary Clinton a political headache Tuesday night when he said he expects her to reverse her position on a major free trade deal.


    Gov. McAuliffe (D).

    Anyone want to place bets one of the first things Hillary does is something social, to reduce discriminiation? Perhaps all well and good, but nowhere near addressing our biggest concerns.
    1763) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1807165)
    Posted 4 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My "issues" with Hilary reside in my fears that she might end up a "hawkish" president and that she might be a president who is more of a fiscal conservative than I would want her to be.


    ^
    |
    |
    |

    This.

    Jill Stein, on the other hand, appears to be non-hawkish and not a pro-corporatist neo-liberal. None of that has anything to do with gender. On the other hand, Jill is, to my knowledge, still not on the ballot in all 50 states. Furthermore, info is coming out about her views on vaccination and "wi-fi radiation" that could be non-evidence based and detrimental to gaining support. None of this has anything to do with gender.
    1764) Message boards : Politics : Hillary Clinton - the next president of America? (Message 1806906)
    Posted 3 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My "issues" with Hilary reside in my fears that she might end up a "hawkish" president and that she might be a president who is more of a fiscal conservative than I would want her to be.

    She is an attorney, has served the nation as First Lady, has served as a senator and has served as secretary of state.

    I will have no difficulty voting for her in November.


    No, no, no! Dull taught me she's a non-hawkish, non-fiscal conservative, liberal/socialist/pink/commie!
    1765) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1806905)
    Posted 3 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3691301/Is-balding-French-president-Francois-Hollande-s-99k-year-barber-s-bill-tax-ruse-Disgraced-aide-contract.html
    But now there are fears fraudsters may have set up a bogus contract to rake in hundreds of thousands of pounds.


    French hypocrisy at it's greatest refinement.......

    No just ordinary fraud, like a candidate refusing to pay workers and violating copyrights.


    No, no, no, this is ecidence of socialism! Dull taught me this.
    1766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1806696)
    Posted 3 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dogma.

    Steve


    Steve is the winner. Sending PM now.
    1767) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1806505)
    Posted 2 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    KHAN Blustered: Have You Read US A Constituition? I Have!

    BIG BIG BIG Don's Real Response: Have LIBERAL Supreme Court Justices; and All Other LIBERAL Judges; State LIBERAL AGs; and All Other Justice System LIBERALS-Read US A Constitution?

    Answer: Like PitifulPeacePrizin'ConstitutionalProfHustlin'Hussein-NO NO NO they HAVE NOT.

    Got IT? GOoD.

    We Da Yappers; Of Da Yappers; fO Da Yappers DECLARE Our Independence from LIBERAL/COMMIE/DEM/ANARCHIST/SOCIALIST Shredders of US A Constitution.

    Yappin' Like a mO fO fOevA


    Sorry, but if you think any of them even come close to a socialist besides a small number such as Sanders or Warren, then you wouldn't know a socialist if a socialist jumped up and bit you on the nose. Obama has been a pro-corporatist neo-liberal and the only changes have been (pretty much):

    1) More drone strikes.
    2) Further reduction of our liberties as begun by Bush era Patriot Act,
    3) Social issue: gay marriage. Less discrimination is nice, but by far not the most important issue.
    4) Health care. Do noy forget Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA), which passed under Reagan. This meant you had to put your taxes to paying for emergency treatment of those who could not afford it. You want to go back to letting your taxes go to that? As I understand it, ACA strongly influenced by an idea of Nixon, the right-wing think tank CATO Institute and Mitt Romney. Did not push for a more leftist approach to health care reform even though Dems had a majority in both the House and Senate.

    And in all this time, the biggest issue has veen barely touched. The very source of our livelihoods. Main Street Economy still sucks Wage stagnation and I'm not just talking about minimum wage. Wall Street usually doing fine. They took the biggest risks and got bailed out. Several them made money by betting on us failing. Offer a sub-prime mortgage that the buyer should have known better than to sign up for, but would never have even had the chance if not offered. Speculators betting on mortgage defaults and winning. Bail out (started under Bush and continued under Obama) money going to bonuses for CEOs. And how many went to jail? Maybe one? Bernie Made-off.

    If you can't tell me why my points are wrong ...
    If you can't tell me wby the points I've raised of a reasonable summary of the Obama era are basically left when I say it is center-right, pro-corporatist, somewhat hawkish neo-liberal ... .

    And don't forget, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was Bill Clinton's first act (less discrimination, again, nice), but he was elected on "It's the Economy, Stupid". So was Obama. It hasn't helped. Hillary Clinton would be as bad or worse. But there's NO reason to believe The Donald when he says "I hate tp say it, but I used to be one of The Establishment. but I've switched" and that he's really going to help.
    1768) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1806488)
    Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it would be great for others to stand up and run for president. It's not brainwashing that makes people stick with Democrat or Republican. It's just the lack of knowledge that there are other options, and that also means fewer people try to run independently. It's a catch-22.


    Please do not forget that votes for Ralph Nader inadvertently helped George W Bush into the White House. Can you blame some of us for being gun-shy?

    If everyone switched there would be no reason to be gun shy. Today at least tell the pollsters you are voting for Gary Johnson. It will put him on the debate stage and in a three way debate Trump will look more the buffoon.


    Whereas not on the debate stage ... .
    1769) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1806401)
    Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    on the Amtrak back from PA, met a reporter. Said she was a Democrat that will vote for Trump. Why? Because nothing has really changed for the common person in 8 years and we just need some sort of change.
    1770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1806399)
    Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Approximately 24 more hours!
    1771) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1806165)
    Posted 31 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This article says loads about Donald Trump and how much of a ignorant racist he is .

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36936692

    And if he does become your next president , it really does vsay a lot about the people who live in the USA


    No, it would only say something about a plurality of those that vote. Among 3 candidates, that would mean anything greater than (100/3)%. Among 4, Anything greater than 25%. It says nothing about those who vote against him. It could say something about those who forego voting which could then allow him to become POTUS anyway. It says nothing about those too young to vote. So on and so forth.
    1772) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1806129)
    Posted 31 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the recent Trump coverage in the biased media. Learned commentators feign the obvious knowledge that Donald Trump was sarcastically asking the Russkies to hack the missing E-mails. This was a taunt on the recent hack of Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz's E-mails that show her and the DNC working against poor Bernie. And the fact that 30,000 E-mails have "mysteriously" gone missing from Madam Clinton's private collection of graft and influence solicitations. Also, I think that Trump doesn't think that the Russians were involved at all and that this was a fabrication by the DNC to take the reporting away from the outrageous content of these very DNC E-mails about Bernie.

    There was never more obvious sarcasm--those that deny it are disingenuous; in fact they are bald-faced Liars.


    Was Trump crowning Bret Michaels a winner of Celebrity Apprentice sarcasm as well, then?
    1773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jack Lass (Message 1806128)
    Posted 31 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodbye, Jack.
    1774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1806106)
    Posted 31 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1775) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1805619)
    Posted 29 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, I think you're just addressing mission creep of laws. Fair topic but I do not see it as the same as the question I raised.

    I think Clyde gave an honest answer. However, it's not the answer we here most often. We hear things where a broad brush is used. Is it any wonder some of us hear/read these broad, and so eventually incorrect on some point, arguments and tune out?
    1776) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Interesting (Message 1805477)
    Posted 29 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rather than being pond scum life may be from volcanism.


    Q says pond scum goo. When has Q been wrong?
    1777) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1805476)
    Posted 29 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not as simple as that...

    Please tell the Donald. Believe me. We'll fix that.


    We're looking into it.
    1778) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1805453)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No hablar espanol mi amigo? Por que'.


    If my independent study of 1st Year Latin (that I stretched into 1.5 years) helps me figure out what some of that means, my friend, it may not be so bad and so we shall not have to wonder why. :)
    1779) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1805405)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge is using logic to refute your position, your ideas come from emotion.

    Emotions:

    Picks your Significant Other.

    Picks Leaders in any Election.

    Causes rebellions.

    Logic:

    Explains why they happened.


    No, you both have it wrong.
    I have asked a question.
    Are all criminals going to break all laws? As for Gary's response, please re-phrase, Gary.
    1780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1805404)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Leaving PA before tonight's travesty.
    1781) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1805402)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't it curious that the 'leaving' celebs always check out Canada and Australia when they make their moving threats, but never Mexico...........


    Isn't it curious that you know what everybody's thinking?
    I have heard from a number of 3 or more rightist sources that immigration from Mexico (illegal or otherwise?) is at net zero. Why? Because conditions have apparently improved. Improved more than enough to get several to return.
    Would I consider Mexico? Yes, and I believe they'd consider me for my talents, but I do not speak Spanish nor do I relish the idea of an even warmer climate than where I now live.
    Having been born just the NY side of the Canadian border (no, no the Falls) and Being from the southern tier of NY for nearly 30 years and given that several in Canada speak English, it would be a more logical choice for me. I am sure, however, that they have plenty already there that can do what I do plus those that wish to emigrate there at the same time as me would include others that can do what I can do.
    So on and so forth.
    1782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #64 (Message 1805265)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    "Bill, I finally bought something I've been looking for since 1998. C'mere."
    1783) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1805247)
    Posted 28 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I only remember that the US in the late sixties had a lot of problem with riots.
    Riots that the police couldn't handle properly.

    I was involved with those, and those in the 1970's..

    The New York City Police response was 'effective' in 'containing'. Not the later ones. When police were ordered by a NYC Mayor to 'Stand Down. He was, of course, defeated in the next election.

    BTW: Rioting and burning down sections of a city. Have a long history in the USA. Guess we will now have another 'Long Hot Summer'. With the results the same.

    Right, same thing happened in NYC in 2003, where the police were outnumbered by over 200 to 1, naturally chaos ensued (*).

    (*) there was no widespread chaos, indeed "Since most perishable items were going to spoil anyway, many restaurants and citizens simply prepared what they could and served it to anyone who wanted it, leading to vast block parties in many New York City neighborhoods."


    Limbaugh claiming lefties to get very violent if Trump wins.
    As a left-handed, am offended; will be looking at where I can move to, not violence, should Trump win.
    1784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1805197)
    Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor has commanded me to head back west early. That's fine, didn't want to see/hear her anyway. Historic event my patootie.
    1785) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1805115)
    Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hollywood shows sex and gun violence. DUH!

    Hollywood PROMOTES sex and gun violence. DUH!

    And then some revered icon of entertainment(Matt'Jason Bourn'Damon)makes the disingenuous, hypocritical statement that all guns in America should be banned and confiscated.

    Can't have it both ways, Bubba.


    Without Hollywood, rates of sex would decrease until, very quickly, the rate of sex would be virtually 0%! DUH! Darn promoters of things for which there is no biological imperative ,let alone any other imperative. Occupy Hollyweird!
    1786) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1805071)
    Posted 27 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get on with it.

    He is going to be our next president, so, would you please start spinning in his direction?

    It would be to our total benefit if you would stop dissing and start moving forward.


    Question: Putting aside your own personal opinions, will you do the same if Hillary is elected? Will you start spinning in her direction and stop dissing her and start moving forward?


    I don't consider myself a Hillary supporter, but if you're going to use such rhetoric in discussion, be prepared to accept your own challenge you're laying out for everyone else. If you're not willing to do as you say, then perhaps telling others that they should is disingenuous at best.


    I'm not a betting man, but I'll put down a bet on just how disingenuous he is. Need to come up with a good one that does not depend on who wins. :)
    1787) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1805000)
    Posted 26 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To reduce suicides, look at guns

    In 2014, 42,773 Americans killed themselves according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Half did so with guns. That’s not only more than the number of Americans who were killed in mass shootings, it’s more than the number of people who were killed with guns in homicides and accidents combined.

    Fifty percent of Americans who commit suicide do so with a gun. In our hypothetical, we assume that figure is just 9 percent — the average level of those four other Western countries. We then assumed the remaining 41 percent would try to commit suicide by other methods, such as suffocation or poisoning. Because none of these methods is as lethal as a gun, fewer people would succeed at committing suicide than if they used firearms. Of course, in reality, it’s possible some people in this 41 percent would not attempt suicide otherwise; we assume they all do to keep our estimate conservative.

    We calculate that the total suicide rate would decline by 20 to 38 percent, depending on the alternative methods used.

    You just DON'T get it do you?

    It doesn't matter if every gun in the galaxy was gone, those who want to kill themselves will find another way to do it. Sheeeees... Drop it already. It AIN'T gonna happen. Guns will always be available for those that want them for whatever reason they want it for. If they cannot get one, they will find other ways to attain whatever goal they want to.

    Peace! :)

    It is painfully obvious that the one not getting it is you.
    Read the article and learn something rather that just posting your mistaken beliefs. Try using some facts if you disagree, and if you do have facts then go and argue them with the Washington Post.

    Firearms are deadly and usually quick, especially when used as a suicide device. If they were not so available to these vulnerable people, then they would try one of the other methods, which is what suicidal people in virtually all other countries have to do. As these are not as immediate they more fail or are discovered before death occurs.

    Uh-huh. Figures. I do not have to read the article. It is a bunch of liberal crap whether the "facts" are true or not. I am NOT a liberal and do not follow what liberals say.

    As I said, you just don't get it. Ban guns and they will still be accessible for those that want to use them for ill. Ban guns and only law abiding citizens will follow the law. Criminals will NOT. Criminals and those that want to "end it all" will get a gun or use whatever means they can to achieve their goals.

    Quit reading the liberal crap you find on the Internet!

    Peace! :)


    As a poster that plays a Vulcan on message boards, I invite you to destory the following logic. I have seen NO ONE address these points, when I have raised them, before. Please ... have at it ... .

    Ban guns and only law abiding citizens will follow the law. Criminals will NOT.


    You, and others that uses this tired lamestream response, assume that all breakers of the law break all rules and do so all the time, (And since no one is perfect, we must all be guilty of the following.)

    Everyone that has ever jaywalked has also run someone over.
    Everyone that has smoked weed has used meth.
    Everyone that has taken a pack of gum from a convenience store at age 9 grows up to embezzle from the corporation he or she works for as an adult.
    Every rapist is a pedophile.

    So on and so forth.

    This is no attempt at a strawman nor do I think it is a strawman.

    I disagree with your quoted claim. The corporation embezzler need not worry about whether he or she's following the gun laws because it's a different type of crime. And there's absolutely no guarantee that, if that person does obtain a gun, that just because he or she breaks rules/laws about embezzlement, he or she will break every other single law he or she can.
    1788) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1804995)
    Posted 26 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All we Americans have to do is disband the Electoral College. That is an 18th century thing, not needed in the 21st century! Every time I've voted, the WRONG person was elected.

    Peace! :)


    Given your other recent posts, this one is different. Thus, one must ask, what do you think the purpose of The Electoral College was & is and why is its existence not in keeping with the philosophy you seem to be espousing in other recent posts?
    1789) Message boards : Politics : Oh christ, another terror attack in France. (Message 1804989)
    Posted 26 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A priest has been killed in an attack by two armed men at his church near Rouen in northern France.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36892785


    Perhaps ... just perhaps ... a little "dark humor" is needed at the moment,

    In another news, an atheist was killed in attach by three-armed men at his favorite local coffee shop near Philadelphia.
    1790) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804917)
    Posted 26 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And you think posting this link somehow discredits the notion that some sealot is going to try to cram his or her version of Christianity down your throat via turning the USA into a theocracy (the Christian Saudi Arabia)?

    Sorry no, I had not read the platform in detail and found it an interesting read compared with posts here.

    So now I'm wondering if you think posting this link somehow credits the notion that some zealot is going to try to cram his or her version of Christianity down your throat via turning the USA into a theocracy (the Christian Saudi Arabia)?


    Being one of the most recent atheists on the message board, I'm fairly sure ... yes. Along with my knowledge of the religion as a former practitioner and as an intelligent person, I can now also see some intelligent arguments from my new fellows. One interesting point that applies is that the current platform indicates tacit belief in US Christians being victimized. (Note the bold and look into the truth, outside the US and within.) The persecution of Christians inside the US is, it appears, [i]a perception[/i\ and ... the perception may need to be exist because they belive Jesus existed and, not only that, He died on the Cross to save them from their sins. Thus, as their leader was a victim, they must see themselves also as victims for following him.

    BTW, it appears fundamentalist Muslims also play the victim.
    1791) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1804915)
    Posted 26 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread view count is ... ahem ... . ;)
    1792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Name your top 3+ music artists (Message 1804816)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All this Pink Floyd! Is there Nobody Home???
    1793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Name your top 3+ music artists (Message 1804815)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Today I am going to choose

    The Pet Shop Boys ...


    Are you a "West End Girl"? (I'm assuming it's not a bad thing.)
    1794) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804804)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ChattyCharp said:


    Remember David Duke endorsed and Drumpf had to be told repeatedly over several days to denounce!


    TOLD

    Hay Chatty. You Like to be TOLD what to say and do?

    Bill of Wrongs #1: All Peoples, are TO BE TOLD what to DO; SAY; THINK, by Their Intellectual SUPERIORS aka SmartOnes with IQs OVER 100.

    Man O Live, What A Yap dat was.

    BIG BIG BIG Don. Telling YOU Da PEOPLE dat He Beez Your Voice.

    Another Great Yap


    Let me tell ya what ta do. Re-watch Forrest Gump.
    1795) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804798)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The 2016 Republican Party Platform

    https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform

    The First Amendment: Religious Liberty on page 11 of the 'Click here to read through the full platform link'. It's a PDF file.


    And you think posting this link somehow discredits the notion that some sealot is going to try to cram his or her version of Christianity down your throat via turning the USA into a theocracy (the Christian Saudi Arabia)?
    1796) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804743)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got a kick out of it when Hillary said "And I hate to say it, but until a few months ago, I was one of the Establishment. But then, I switched. I switched to non-Establishment." Who would believe her???
    1797) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804742)
    Posted 25 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We also have freedom FROM religion; whereas' not all people living in Muslim countries do.


    Except, no, not really and looks like the 2016 GOP Platform is working to cement that.
    1798) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804709)
    Posted 24 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes. Religion is bad for democracy.
    And the US republican party now wants that laws should be based on pre-medieval texts called the Bible!

    Yes they are introducing Sharia into the United States.

    The Christian version of Saudi Arabia, being advanced by portios of the GOP 2016 platform.

    The scary part is, if they succeed in getting the Cristian version in, when the demographics of the USA shifts (look up the population growth rates) Sharia type laws will have stare dices and every Christian will be forced to live under Islamic Sharia by their own short sighted actions.

    No one ever said followers think for themselves.


    This is an argument (opening the doors for Sharia) I have heard elsewhere and I cannot think of a counter-argument. Unless even more Muslims choose atheism. (There's a growing (?) apostate community on youtube.)
    1799) Message boards : Politics : Gary Johnson for President (Message 1804708)
    Posted 24 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it very strange that a nation thinks that a vote for a presidental candidate that is not a Republican or a Democrat is a waste.
    Brain Washed.

    Interesting read on two party systems.

    Duverger's law


    However, any discussion of other ways of indicating your votes/preferences and selecting the winner from these indications should be followed with heavy consideration of the findings of Kenneth Arrow.
    1800) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804698)
    Posted 24 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My GF worked and lived in Teheran back in the late 70's for about seven years.
    As you say very few wore scarfs and they who did was mostly from nomadic tribes.
    But when Khomeini seized power everything changed.
    It took only a few hours and suddenly all women wore scarfs.

    Yes. Religion is bad for democracy.
    And the US republican party now wants that laws should be based on pre-medieval texts called the Bible!

    Yes they are introducing Sharia into the United States.


    The Christian version of Saudi Arabia, being advanced by portios of the GOP 2016 platform.
    1801) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804525)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having a sufficient,ready and capable set of armed forces may well mean that won't have to use it. Or if we do use it we won't bog down with pussy-footing, inadequate numbers and political correctness. Pretty soon we will all be carrying uzi's to go to the supermarket like they do in Israel if world trends continue.

    So I say to you: Sprechen Sie Deutsch or how are you at teaching the finer Murderous dictates of the Koran.

    For all of our pacifist friends, we are at war now and so are our allies. Wishing it will go away is a fools game.


    So, let's say ir clearly: do you believe, as Jodi Ernst claimed, that ISIS is now present in all 50 states? That they have a base just over the border in Mexico? Or some similar belief at least?

    And what exactly are you saying in your second paragraph? Are you leveling an accusation at me or another here? How exactly did this prevent what you speak of in your second sentence?

    As for your third paragraph, could you tell me when the U.S. has not been at war???

    Was not the draft still in effect during Vietnam?
    1802) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1804520)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to know something? ;)
    1803) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804519)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pretend that you were the advisor to President Donald Trump. What would you advise ?

    I would like to take a shot at it myself. This is just the start.

    [list]Withdraw troops from S Korea, Germany, France, Japan, England. Keep only airbases in these countries.

    Close 60% of our overseas bases.

    What about Turkey. Airbases need defending, who's going to do that. Defense is probably best done offshore, you are proposing bringing it back to the shores of the US and endangering millions if a war was to break out.

    Eliminate entire departments: Education etc

    Who ensures at least a common set of standards across the country. Who pays to educate subjects and level so that students can be moved from low to higher standard states?

    Mandate 10% reduction per year in all remaining departments except DOD--use early retirement for those with 20 years. Mandatory retirement with those having 30 years.

    Who employs retrains and employs these people after this service?
    30 years work is not long enough to save enough for retirement and health care in old age, who pays for this. Without immigration the birth rate is not high enough for the younger generations to support the old'uns.

    Initiate a draft.

    Ah this is where your education budget is going, as a lot will now need extensive education and training to do the required jobs, and don't forget draftee's are usually only in for 19 months to two years.


    Reinstate the draft, go to a few more wars (perhaps with corporations that are in our WR's "territorial waters", ones at least 50% U.S. owned according to WK, kill off several young men (and women) in this war, less need for using money to support post-secondary education. Also likely to severely reduced/completely cut any teaching WR might still do. Round 'n' round!
    1804) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804489)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?


    As a matter of fact, I can and do.

    In front of how many?

    No, it is are they forced to be there?


    They can walk out as easily as the alternative media cameras showed people easily walking out on several key RNC speakers. (EDIT: for about 17 months I did work a job where the level of compulsion was quite a bit higher and legally so.)

    And, Sirius, "in front of how many" increases as years go by. If something I say angers them or is difficult to understand, I have much less separating them from me and I have to answer their questions, where as a politician can just barrel on, factually or fact-free.
    1805) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804486)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tell me how you can respect someone who has absolutely no respect for anyone else but himself?
    Perfect description of Hillary...........


    We get it. Hillary sucks. No, really, I agree, she does!
    But ... how many threads do we have about Hillary now? (Including 1 new one this week?)
    I hope it's not that stuff your state legalized that's making it hard to determine which thread to post in? ;)
    1806) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804474)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?


    As a matter of fact, I can and do.
    1807) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1804473)
    Posted 23 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I really wish that some of you would have a bit more respect.
    Whether you like it or not, I have little doubt that Trump ;is going to be our next president......Of the good ol' USofA.

    It might not be to everybody's liking, but consider the alternative.

    And she might be jailed before the election, God willing.

    Meow.


    Sorry, respect and politicians overwhelmingly tend to be mutually exclusive.

    Trump is poison.
    Clinton is worse.

    Either one of these two wins, the nation is screwed. Effectively we are presented a choice between Hitler and Stalin.

    We NEED someone else.


    You mean Hitler and MADE-OFF.
    CALLING CLINTON ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF A LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE/SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST is ab ASOLUuuuute .... FREAK'ing HILLARYous jOOOke.
    Get it together, Kong.
    P.S.: love how all posts end with a note that your posts have ended "textexit"! NICE! ;)
    1808) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1803754)
    Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump's Foreign Policy Advisor...

    "He will never give up his style, his way to target his enemies. The Americans are fed up with the bullshit they heard for many years. They want the truth, they want to believe what their leaders are saying again. Trump is such an underdog, a fighter -- a man who rebels against the establishment, against all kinds of resistance. That is what Americans love."

    ... :-)

    Report


    Underdog mein patootie.
    1809) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1803753)
    Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

    Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.


    What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.


    Oh, gimmie a break...



    Ms. Trump (or more likely her speechwriter) may have lifted some material from a speech Ms. Obama gave a couple of DNCs ago. So?

    Ms. Obama (or more likely her speechwriter) lifted some of the material from *that* speech ( a couple of lines) from Saul Alinsky's publication "Rules for Radicals"... (the phrases 'world as it is' and 'world as it should be'.) So?

    Mr. Obama lifted some stuff from Deval Patrick. So?

    Ms. Clinton lifted some stuff from Mr. Sanders. So? (he probably lifted it from someone else anyway).

    Plagiarism... They ALL do it. To expect them to either not use others words and/or ideas, or to provide attribution when they do, would be... quite unrealistic.


    The same thing keeps happening, over and over.

    I've seen it before, I will see it again.


    I don't care so much about the plagiarism. As you said, it happens all the time. All I care about is how he handled it, and all he did - all he ever does - is blame others.


    It's how one responds.
    1810) Message boards : Politics : WWII and Modern Terrorism (Message 1803622)
    Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/27/al-qaeda-urges-lone-wolves-to-target-whites-to-avoid-hate-crime-label.html
    Lone wolf jihadists should target white Americans so no one mistakes their terror attacks for hate crimes unrelated to the cause of radical Islam, Al Qaeda writes in the latest edition of its online magazine.

    In an article first reported by The Foreign Desk, Al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) called for more self-directed Muslim terrorists to kill in America. But the article, titled “Inspire guide: Orlando operation,” tells terrorists to “avoid targeting places and crowds where minorities are generally found” because if gays or Latinos appear to be the targets, “the federal government will be the one taking full responsibility.”
    ...
    Although Al Qaeda does not take credit for Mateen’s attack in the online article, it urges more “lone wolves” to take up arms. Jihadists should target “areas where the Anglo-Saxon community is generally concentrated,” it states. “This class of the American community is the majority and it is the one that is in the American leadership.”

    Al Qaeda is "very carefully threading a needle" by endorsing the attack while criticizing Mateen's target selection, said Ryan Mauro, national security analyst for Clarion Project, a Washington-based nonprofit that tracks the international terror threat.

    "This is Al Qaeda's way of asserting itself above ISIS in the wake of its competitor's success," Mauro said.

    Inspire magazine often exploits terror attacks in the West and makes threats against Europe and the United States. While the terror group responsible for 9/11 has been overshadowed by rival ISIS in recent years, it praised Mateen for his monstrous act.

    “We stand by and support all Muslims who attack America in their homeland regardless of their affiliation to any group or loyalty,” the guide states, though adding that Mateen could have killed even more if he had used bombs in addition to the guns he carried: a Sig Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle and a Glock 17 handgun.

    "Al Qaeda is talking condescendingly toward ISIS while remaining supportive, like a guru of jihad mentoring a reckless amateur," Mauro said.


    Gonna work on my tan!
    1811) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1803621)
    Posted 20 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Both of them are frauds and probably both deserve to be locked up ... in a cell ... together, Maybe with "female Ted Cruz"?
    1812) Message boards : Politics : Coup in Turkey (Message 1802798)
    Posted 15 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Erdogan, a petty authoritarian. Bad.
    Military coup of someone democratically elected? Probably bad as well.
    1813) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1802593)
    Posted 14 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, this time it is about who can use a bathroom, who can refuse to bake a cake, who gets birth control, who gets a gun, and Jim Crow voter laws.

    Yes, exactly the same issues as 1860's.

    And this time around one side likes guns and has guns and the other side doesn't like guns and doesn't own guns. But they will expect the LEO/Government/Military to protect/defend them while, those ranks are filled with lots of gun loving/owning people who will be expected to kill their like kind. Oh! Yah!

    R0TFLMA0!!

    ;^)

    ...


    Where is your evidence "they" don't like guns?
    Broad brush?
    1814) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Race (Message 1802560)
    Posted 14 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Margin of error for sample of 400 ~ 1.58 * Margin of error for sample of 1000.
    IFF samples are random and all answer when questions are put to them.


    AND answer sincerely/honestly.

    However, margin of error is NOT meant to cover these issues. m = critical value for confidence level * standard deviation / sqrt(sample size).
    1815) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Race (Message 1802553)
    Posted 14 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One also needs to study,

    number of those polled, low numbers like ~400 will produce much larger errors than a poll of over 1,000.

    history of the poll, is it the first or is it an update and therefore shows trends.

    and probably more importantly who did the poll, are they biased. Like Rasmussen Reports since Mr. Rasmussen left.


    Margin of error for sample of 400 ~ 1.58 * Margin of error for sample of 1000.
    1816) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1802421)
    Posted 13 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Trump were to win, he would be world's only national leader to reject climate science
    Donald Trump would be the only national leader in the world to dismiss the science of climate change should he become president, putting him out of step even with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe and Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea.

    The potential isolation of the US on climate change has been laid bare by a new Sierra Club report which found universal acceptance of climate science among the leaders of the 195 countries recognized by the US state department.


    You believe he doesn't believe in it? He'll say anything, except when it comes to rising sea levels endangering one of his golf courses in Scotland.

    I didn't know that the golf course was under threat, and I have lived, for a short time, in that part of the world.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en-gb
    The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
    Donald J. Trump


    One source for what I said: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436.

    WHy believe he BELIEVES climate change is a Chinese-made hoax rather than one more thing he'' SAY to get attention/power? On some issues he's brought up, approximately, 5 positions in 24-48 hours.
    1817) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1802321)
    Posted 13 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Trump were to win, he would be world's only national leader to reject climate science
    Donald Trump would be the only national leader in the world to dismiss the science of climate change should he become president, putting him out of step even with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe and Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea.

    The potential isolation of the US on climate change has been laid bare by a new Sierra Club report which found universal acceptance of climate science among the leaders of the 195 countries recognized by the US state department.


    You believe he doesn't believe in it? He'll say anything, except when it comes to rising sea levels endangering one of his golf courses in Scotland.
    1818) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1802174)
    Posted 12 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bill Clinton's law license was suspended for five years in Arkansas and he was also suspended from practicing law in front of the Supreme Court over the Lewinski incident.

    Mr. Clinton was given the opportunity to contest his Supreme Court disbarment, but declined to do so.

    He also paid a $25,000 fine over the Lewinski incident in order to avoid being disbarred in the state of Arkansas.

    He also paid an $850,000settlement over the Lewinski incident.


    In addition, a federal court imposed a civil contempt penalty of more than $900,000 on President Clinton for violating its orders.

    He was also fined $90,000 for giving false testimony in the Paula Jones case.

    So Bill Clinton, a disbarred lawyer, a President who was fined for lying under oath, asks the American people to believe him when he says the best thing for the Country is 4 years for Hillary.

    Just wanted to make sure I had it right . .


    Just wanted to make sure you are posting about Clinton in a Trump thread, speaking to a group where few to no Hillary supporters exist. I'm right. Thanks.
    1819) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1802167)
    Posted 12 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poster 1: Yadda yadda yadda.

    Poster 2: Show me your evidence.

    Poster 1: FracK You, Poster 2. Don't interrupt my bull-splat.
    1820) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801878)
    Posted 10 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My statement that Trump could win is not based on belief. I have provided both anecdotal and wider evidence. And I expect my evidence to be debated. I expect to provided counter-evidence, also to be debated.
    1821) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801851)
    Posted 9 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For both of them, the levels of unfavorability are so large that each should be un-Presidented.

    WK in speaking with some various folks, there are Republicans who were against Trump that are now for him as the presumptive nominee. I am sure they would never ever vote for a Democrat, let alone a Clinton. My attempts to get them to consider independents such as Johnson or Stein (particularly Johnson in their cases) are met with a befuddled lack of knowledge he exists to no response.

    I know a Latino that said he was for Trump about 7 months ago. About a month ago, he was against him. I did not find out why. But I know he does not like Hillary, either, and who knows whether he get swayed back into the Trump camp?

    Look over your shoulder.
    Be prepared.


    Sorry, Bernie, i shall endeavor to speak more intelligently regarding Mf. Trump in the future.
    1822) Message boards : Politics : Ark park (Message 1801712)
    Posted 9 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Noah's Ark is Plagiarized-Here's How We Know.
    1823) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801680)
    Posted 9 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For both of them, the levels of unfavorability are so large that each should be un-Presidented.

    WK in speaking with some various folks, there are Republicans who were against Trump that are now for him as the presumptive nominee. I am sure they would never ever vote for a Democrat, let alone a Clinton. My attempts to get them to consider independents such as Johnson or Stein (particularly Johnson in their cases) are met with a befuddled lack of knowledge he exists to no response.

    I know a Latino that said he was for Trump about 7 months ago. About a month ago, he was against him. I did not find out why. But I know he does not like Hillary, either, and who knows whether he get swayed back into the Trump camp?

    Look over your shoulder.
    Be prepared.
    1824) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801606)
    Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Either side is open to surprise at this point.
    Let us hope that one such surprise could come from low percents, being siphoned off by Johnson & Stein. So much that either Johnson or Stein wins or that whichever of Clinton or Trump wins, the percent is so low it cannot possibly be seen as a "mandate".
    1825) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801503)
    Posted 8 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After thinking about it for much time I'm surprised that none of the subcontractors that the Donald stiffed on contracts he had with them haven't tried to kill him.


    They are more moral than him?
    1826) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1801339)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was Hillary under oath for the Benghazi hearings?
    1827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kitty needs help. (Message 1801338)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poor kitty!
    1828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric!!! (Message 1801337)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hippy Burp-Day, Eric!
    1829) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : RNA-tC19Z/Miller-Urey experiment / creation of biological life (Message 1801336)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I want them to build me a new totally functioning body and then transfer the contents of my brain into it. ;)


    I wish to attain Moksha, escaping the Samsaric cycle. Once is enough, thank you very much!
    1830) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Why not build a space elevator at the moon? (Message 1801333)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The whole idea of building a space elevator is bring the cost of getting to space as cheap as possible (once the original cost is recovered). Building one on the moon where gravity is much less would have less benefit and it would not help reduce the cost on this planet at all. This isn't to say that putting one on the moon makes no sense it just seems earth would be the priority.

    Bob


    Uhhh ... get to the Moon, but then get from the Moon to some other place more easily in 2 hops than 1 direct hop from Earth to non-lunar destination?
    1831) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1801332)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    betreger: Do you believe the private server scandal is just another partisan witch-hunt scandal?

    Sarge methinks it has turned into one.


    If so, strip that away. Of what remains, is Hillary trustworthy? Did she do something wrong? Did she do something criminal?
    1832) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1801329)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah the great revered right wing conspiracy theory always come up when ever useful.

    Want conspiracy theory? Bill arranged the meeting knowing that would force the AG to prosecute.

    betreger believes this is the last century. Where these type of stupid and unintelligent attacks work.

    FAR WORSE! Hillary also believes this.

    :( :( :(


    betreger: Do you believe the private server scandal is just another partisan witch-hunt scandal? (Personally, I do not.)

    Clyde: I agree about acting if it is still the 90s. In so many ways.

    Dull: Who here supports Hillary? Perhaps none or a very small percentage. I love your preaching to the choir.

    Clyde is correct: independents will decide this and a bunch of us are sick of choosing the lesser of two evils. Sick of voting against what we fear instead of voting for what we believe in. Hillary's veneer has slipped away. If I'm saying this, imagine that multiplied by a big number and apply it to millenials.
    1833) Message boards : Politics : Ark park (Message 1801255)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, there's no accounting for taste, or faith, or the lack of either.

    I think it is a most amazing undertaking. You needn't be a man of faith to appreciate the creative effort at hand there.


    I have no problem appreciating the sheer engineering beauty of it, but as said in this thread already, the only thing that worries me are the people who think Noah's Ark was a real event, down to the flooding of the Earth - rather than the parable it is meant to be: that of rebirth and renewal.


    I just help shape the minds of people that may build, not build myself, nor have I looked technical details, but: seriously, are we talking about a technologica/engineeringl marvel for 2016?
    1834) Message boards : Politics : Ark park (Message 1801208)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An artistic replica of Noah's Ark as described in the bible has opened in Kentucky. I'm not that far away, and might go out of curiosity.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/noahs-ark-creationism-ken-ham.html

    California's got it's Apple spaceship, and Kentucky's got it's Ark. ;~)


    Depressing. Sorry.


    Ah well, it's entertaining to me.


    Just be ready to be surrounded by people not there for entertainment, but a "history" lesson.
    1835) Message boards : Politics : Ark park (Message 1801206)
    Posted 7 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An artistic replica of Noah's Ark as described in the bible has opened in Kentucky. I'm not that far away, and might go out of curiosity.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/noahs-ark-creationism-ken-ham.html

    California's got it's Apple spaceship, and Kentucky's got it's Ark. ;~)


    Depressing. Sorry.
    1836) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801155)
    Posted 6 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    She was their boss... The ones that raised the issue were told to drop it and never mention it again or they would be fired (or worse...).

    An absolute case of being able to take an employer to court for unfair dismisal. Therefore I question that without authoritative substanciation

    And no I do not get it. From what I have read of your remarks on the subject I can only assume you are very anti-Hillary and make my judgement on that.


    Many progressives are saying essentially what MK says. Want links?
    1837) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1801004)
    Posted 6 Jul 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge it is Obama that has stopped things like minimum wage , health care OR

    was it the Republicans in the congress that has stopped him doing things that would have helped the average joe ?????

    You all blame Obama but he has had a hostile senate and has been stopped from doing the things he wanted to do and now your all whining and blaming him when it was the Republicans in the senate that has stopped him doing the right thing .

    And here we see your all whining about him but are going to vote for the very people that have stopped Obamama

    My you lot need to think for yourself instead of spending to much time in the backstabbers club playing follow the leader to the bottom or the morality pile and Remember who's party has got you in the trouble that your in . BUSH not Obamama Republican not Democrate


    I guess in America maybe it would be better if there was a test for IQ before you vote and a test for EQ as well fail the EQ (less than 80) and score below 100 in a IQ then you can't vote


    I really ... really ... really wish you would read all related posts made by an individual.

    You act as though criticizing anything Obama has or has not done means I wanted McCain in 2008 or Romney in 2012. You act as if any critique of Hillary now means support for Trump.

    Show me where Obama really fought for anything regarding wages.

    If I make claims that:

    Obama (and Hillary) are neo-liberals, which are essentially neo-cons except on a few social issues ,,,

    Who are pro-Wall Street, which has done tremendously under Obama ...

    While the MAIN street economy (the non-elites, i.e., just about everybody else) has been stuck where they were in 2008 or are worse off ...

    and I think I have provided a few links here or there and could provide more, in the meantime ...

    why don't you try to prove me wrong, instead of assuming I am whining or that I am supporting Trump?

    Hmmm?
    1838) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1799720)
    Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that should be can't stand the a$$***es vote Gary Johnson, make America sane again.

    The libertarian candidate, while being more to my liking, can never gain the support of enough of the voting population to do more than give the election to Hillary.


    Again:

    Perot earned 19%-20% of the popular vote in 1992, though not enough in any district to get any of the Electoral College. Still, that percent among 4 major candidates isn't bad and now we have Clinton & Trump with huge unfavorables. Do not write off a 3rd party candidate this time, at least ones on the ballot in all states.
    1839) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1799719)
    Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nate has spoken for the first time in 2016, fivethirtyeight - Who will win the presidency?

    Hillary Clinton - 80.3%, Donald Trump - 19.7%

    If you are not familiar with Nate Silver then Guardian - Hillary Clinton has 81% chance of defeating Trump, Nate Silver predicts can be your introduction.


    Nate Silver Apologizes For Bad Predictions, Then Makes Bad Prediction .
    1840) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1799718)
    Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde that'a the argument the LNP is running here and I don't think anybody is listening , there listening to other things

    Like giving a 57 billion tax cut to companys (US shareholders benefit not us)

    The tearing down of Medicare our Universal health care

    Private Education over Public Education

    Stuff the economy it's fine only the mugrels in office are the ones that are the problem

    So don't be surprised if it's not Just the economy stupid

    Case in point Brexit !!!


    Obama continued the bail out of the crony, international capitalists.
    The ordinary person took some hits not deserved.
    I make about what I made 20 years or slightly more (if more, by a few thousand, not tens of thousands), despite being far more educated and experienced now than I was then. And I'm working more hours for it. That's just one story.
    1841) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1799715)
    Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I understand Trump has peed a lot of them off and they do count for 50% of the vote so I wouldn't count Hillary out of the race yet in fact I reckon she has a very good chance of winning if only because of the female voters

    Negative.

    There is a Generation Gap among Democrat female voters.

    In addition to an all inclusive Generation Gap within the Democrat Party.

    The Anti-Incumbent, Anti-Establishment, Anti-Ruling Class, Anti-Capitalist Globalization (Screw the Western Worker) Voters.

    May surprise many.


    The younger ones wanted Sanders.
    A few may get sucked in by Trump's faux populism. Some I know are too smart for that. I would not be surprised if they either write in Sanders or go to Stein,
    1842) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1799713)
    Posted 30 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only reason I may vote for Trump is Hillary. I still think she and Donald conspired this who campaign up to guarantee her a victory. I also think they should either formally charge either or both of them before the conventions or drop the investigations.


    Yes, both might get charged.
    Please, don't vote for Trump!?
    Look into Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, etc. ... .
    Anyone know if the Libertarians and Greens will be on the ballot in all 50 states?
    1843) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1798940)
    Posted 27 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fair point, but don't security have the right to check that after all that has happened at airports & on aircraft?


    Do you really need me to answer that?
    1844) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1798614)
    Posted 25 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, did you see where Clyde called you a supporter of the left?!


    This independent would rather be called a supporter of some of the Left than supporting, in any way, Trump.
    1845) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1798287)
    Posted 24 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who wants to be associated to a mob sociaty?

    Drumpf wants to run one. See that [fill in the blank] over there, he is [fill in the blank] and must be beaten down and devalued as a human.

    Problem for Anti Trump voters:

    It is a small faction of Pro Hillary/Anti Trump people who are committing most these disgusting actions and words.

    Not Pro Trump.

    Gary...

    As the old saying goes, regarding The Left's assertions regarding Trump Supporters:

    Do you believe The Left, or your lying eyes?

    It the the Thuggish Left which may be enabling a Trump Victory.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZm8fkc0aaQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2225661629&feature=iv&src_vid=KZm8fkc0aaQ&v=ji9avtS_8hc
    1846) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1798214)
    Posted 23 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    & then play around with balls on a Trump golf course :-)


    %$&&^*$@&^ censored.
    1847) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1798091)
    Posted 23 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We went back and forth on who they 'profiled' as a terrorist. It was fascinating. And contrary to what I (and most others) would think it was.

    It is very different. They don't profile on skin color. They profile on observation of traits, at least that is what my friend who has also talked to a few alleged Mossad. They have lists of things people should do or should not do. Missing the should and have should not and you get a talking to. They don't like the answers and you aren't getting on an airplane.

    One item might be wearing a bulky jacket on a hot day.


    Last sentence: motorcyclists do this.

    Would that be getting on a motorcycle or plane?


    I have seen the jacket remain on for several minutes after getting off the motorcycle. So, what if the motorcycle was left in the airport parking lot because that's how the person transported himself or herself to the airport?
    1848) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1798070)
    Posted 23 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We went back and forth on who they 'profiled' as a terrorist. It was fascinating. And contrary to what I (and most others) would think it was.

    It is very different. They don't profile on skin color. They profile on observation of traits, at least that is what my friend who has also talked to a few alleged Mossad. They have lists of things people should do or should not do. Missing the should and have should not and you get a talking to. They don't like the answers and you aren't getting on an airplane.

    One item might be wearing a bulky jacket on a hot day.


    Last sentence: motorcyclists do this.
    1849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1798069)
    Posted 23 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Lynn.

    Here's another, all! (Click the pic to get to the video.)



    Uploading caused compression of the audio. If you'd like to hear the version with better audio, PM me.
    1850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1798056)
    Posted 23 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Lynn.

    Here's another, all! (Click the pic to get to the video.)

    1851) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1797706)
    Posted 21 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Janne, I mis-spoke. I now see Trump was referring to Muslims.
    1852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1797576)
    Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not bad at singing Sarge. :)
    Julie, you are also good. :)


    Thanx Lynn, I'm performing in a television show here later on this year, I'm going for the win :)

    [edit] Here's my new tune:

    https://soundcloud.com/rozz-591401140/johnnys-bliss


    Thank you, Lynn.
    Julie, I think this might be might favorite of yours.
    Welcome back, Dan. Haven't heard that song of yours in a while; like an old friend, hearing it again.

    Click the pic below to hear/see me singing G'n'R's "November Rain".



    Nice pic Sarge :)

    My second album is at the publisher right now, it contains 17 songs, this one is one of them.


    Did you also click the pic to check a recent performance? :)
    1853) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1797478)
    Posted 20 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What?
    Are muslims a race?
    Does that mean that jews are also a race?
    I didn't know I was of a particulary race but perhaps I am.
    Geeze...


    While I respect your question, I don't think it requires an answer since I did not see anything in the quote mentioning Muslims. He could be referring to Hispanics, which was the first group he came out swinging against. Were Muslims mentioned in a larger article of which Gary only quoted a part or not?
    1854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1797448)
    Posted 19 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not bad at singing Sarge. :)
    Julie, you are also good. :)


    Thanx Lynn, I'm performing in a television show here later on this year, I'm going for the win :)

    [edit] Here's my new tune:

    https://soundcloud.com/rozz-591401140/johnnys-bliss


    Thank you, Lynn.
    Julie, I think this might be might favorite of yours.
    Welcome back, Dan. Haven't heard that song of yours in a while; like an old friend, hearing it again.

    Click the pic below to hear/see me singing G'n'R's "November Rain".

    1855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing Persons Bureau (a.k.a. The Mother Hens Thread) (Message 1796949)
    Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm am doing well Julie. Don't post much on the main boards anymore. The Angst isn't worth it:)


    Thanks again for the book suggestion, James!
    1856) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1796886)
    Posted 17 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody remember Ronald Reagan saying "Mr. Gorbachev - tear down this wall."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NjNL4Nsa4Q
    Now the Donald says "Build that wall"!
    If you are complaining he says "That is another 10 inches higher".

    Mass Murdering and Enslaving, Marxists Walls - Are to keep Enslaved People INSIDE!

    What exactly is the correlation?


    Perhaps I have not said it here, but I have thought for a while that HE DOES also wish to keep US in.

    Sarge...

    Very interesting.

    If I understand The Donald: Perhaps.


    Just a hunch. But my hunch last December was Trump had an 80% chance of being the GOP nominee.
    1857) Message boards : Politics : WWII and Modern Terrorism (Message 1796478)
    Posted 16 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you sure about the U.N., Wiggo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fch3U2kcgPw




    So no blame for the USSR for invading Afghanistan in the first place, and no evidence to support your claim of US funding for ISIS/ISIL (or their precursor, AQI).

    Actually, since WWII, both Russia and the U.S. are both equally to blame with their "tit for tat" acts of stupidity around the world.

    Both countries have enough problems at home to fix and they should be concentrating on them instead of going around destabilising the rest of the world.

    Quite frankly the U.N. would be the best way to fix world problems if those ridiculous powers of veto were totally scrapped.

    That way the world has a whole would have its say instead of just the power hungry greedy ones just wanting the same old "tit for tat" acts of stupidity to continue.

    Havn't these "tit for tat" acts of stupidity by power hungry countries, which have for so long dogged our world history, enough to learn from?

    Can't we finally put an end to "merry-go-round" of such acts in history and just become one whole peaceful planet?

    Cheers.
    1858) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1796477)
    Posted 16 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aljazeera? Really? ROFLMAO!!!!!!

    A new low Gary.


    Ummm ... to the best of my recollection, I have seen an atheist of Jewish ancestry, that is a gun-toting Libertarian post at least one thing from Al Jazeera on Facenook. So ... ?
    1859) Message boards : Politics : WWII and Modern Terrorism (Message 1796218)
    Posted 15 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The US is blamed for the creation of Al Qaeda; this blame is assigned as a result of CIA support for the Mujahideen.


    The U.S. did and does fund Saudi Arabia, correct?

    The Saudis also funded the Mujahideen.


    If the answer to my question above is "yes", then the U.S. funded the Mujahadeen + Saudia Arabia funded the Mujahadeen = the U.S. funded the Mujahadeen. No?

    Yes, the US funds Wahhabism for oil.


    Wahhabi'ism the ideology of ISIS, eh?
    1860) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1796176)
    Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody remember Ronald Reagan saying "Mr. Gorbachev - tear down this wall."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NjNL4Nsa4Q
    Now the Donald says "Build that wall"!
    If you are complaining he says "That is another 10 inches higher".

    Mass Murdering and Enslaving, Marxists Walls - Are to keep Enslaved People INSIDE!

    What exactly is the correlation?


    Perhaps I have not said it here, but I have thought for a while that HE DOES also wish to keep US in.
    1861) Message boards : Politics : WWII and Modern Terrorism (Message 1796169)
    Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The US is blamed for the creation of Al Qaeda; this blame is assigned as a result of CIA support for the Mujahideen.


    The U.S. did and does fund Saudi Arabia, correct?

    The Saudis also funded the Mujahideen.


    If the answer to my question above is "yes", then the U.S. funded the Mujahadeen + Saudia Arabia funded the Mujahadeen = the U.S. funded the Mujahadeen. No?
    1862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1796166)
    Posted 14 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge sings "Hurt".

    Originally written and performed by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails and covered by country legend Johnny Cash, the background music here is of Cash's version. I sing the first verse/chorus in a Cash style, the 2nd cverse somewhat like Reznor and then add my own twist on the 2n/ending chorus.
    1863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1795634)
    Posted 12 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In 10 days:

    Swam ~ 1.159 miles.
    Biked 8 miles (first ride today).
    Walked ~ 33.64 miles.



    In 10 days:

    Ate ice cream twice. Hey... for me that's pretty good!!!

    (Sarge, you must be in terrific physical shape! Good for you!)


    Nope, I'm not.
    1864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1795270)
    Posted 11 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In 10 days:

    Swam ~ 1.159 miles.
    Biked 8 miles (first ride today).
    Walked ~ 33.64 miles.
    1865) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1794776)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder, why this Hillary Clinton—Bernie Sanders competition goes on. Why not make it a POTUS—VPOTUS arrangement against the Puffed Up Evil?


    There is one obvious reason: what if Hillary is indicted on the e-mail server is issue. As days and weeks wear on, it's not looking any better for her and perhaps much worse.
    1866) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1794775)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder, why this Hillary Clinton—Bernie Sanders competition goes on. Why not make it a POTUS—VPOTUS arrangement against the Puffed Up Evil?


    Yes, Trump is bad.. very bad... poisonous bad...

    But as bad as Trump is, Clinton is *worse*.


    Yes, Clinton is bad. Very bad. But, as bad as Clinton is, Trump is worse.
    1867) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1794594)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any suggestion how we may stop The Left Wing Thugs, from ensuring a Trump Victory?
    Have the secret service look the other way?

    Was, for the first time, going to push the Red 'X'.

    Thought it would be better for all to see what Gary is.


    I'm curious. That I've posted on social media, "Give Clinton & Trump a cell together and let them waterboard each other" ... just as bad? Or a sign of a warped sarcasm?
    1868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1794592)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PS. I hope that everyone understand that the Norse mythology is a rip off from the Greek mythology, which originated from even older indoeuropean mythologies.
    Which is all the reason one needs to celebrate Thor!


    The newest/youngest version is ALWAYS the correct interpretation.
    Ummm .... .
    Errr ... .
    1869) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1794590)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Political, Cultural, Gender, Bias and Agenda, and More Other Bias/Agenda than One Can Imagine is What All Judges are made of.

    Lawyers when Finding Out a Certain Judge will be Hearing Their Case, either Love or Hate this Judge, Due to Their Inherent Biases and Agendas.

    All Case Outcomes are affected by Bias and Agenda.

    When a Jury Trial, Jurists are Picked According to Percieved or Known Bias and Agenda.

    Bias and Agenda is Why Supreme Court Decisions are 5-4 or 4-4.

    All This and More is Known.

    So Why The OUTRAGE over DJT's Concerns 'bout A Judge?

    People, even if They Are 10th Generation 'Americans', will be referred to as Italian, Irish, Polish, French, Spainish, etc etc etc.

    This OUTRAGE is A F**kin' Joke.

    YapYapYap because My Parents and Ancestors are Yap.

    Come On BIG BIG BIG DON, Keep Up The Reality and DO NOT SUCK UP.

    YapparOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOski

    Indeed, this judge is clearly biased when it comes to Mexicans, who wouldn't be after finding out a Mexican drug cartel had put a price on your head?

    Oh, that wasn't what you meant. Apologies for any confusion.


    I posted a similar LA Times article elsewhere.
    In any case, I wonder if Dull has served jury duty. I got out of it once, then reported reported the second time. BOTH sides got to vote on jurors, which should've done SOMETHING to reduce bias.
    1870) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1794589)
    Posted 9 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michael Reagan, the son of former President Ronald Reagan, said Monday he will not vote for Donald Trump in California's primary Tuesday — and he doubts his father would have supported Trump either.

    The Eleventh Commandment (by Ronald Reagan): "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican".

    BTW: Reagan's children, from two marriages. Were not on the same page as their father.

    As the son of Robert Kennedy (Robert Kennedy Jr.). Cannot be compared favorably with his father.


    IIRC, not entirely correct. Ron Reagan is or was a liberal radio pundit. Michael, conservative (on air, not sure?).
    1871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1794286)
    Posted 7 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait.
    Wait.
    Wait.

    Complex things require designers.
    Thor is infinitely more complex than humans.
    .
    So, who created Thor?

    You'll have to talk with the gods of Wednesday & Friday about that 1. ;-)

    Cheers.

    Actually Frigg is the step-mother of Thor.
    His mother is Jörð meaning Earth and is like the Greek god Gaea.


    Maybe she IS Gaea!?
    1872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1794155)
    Posted 7 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anybody tried the Slendertone abs belt?


    ?


    Nope. Did hear you sing a couple of threads back. Not bad. :)


    There will be more to share in that thread at a later date.
    I bought a Slendertone belt last May/June, but didn't get it working so set it aside until 8 days ago. It's working now. We'll see if doing that along with the other things I did last summer that I'm doing again makes a difference. (I toned up, but did not lose weight after some intensive exercise I did last June to October.)
    1873) Message boards : Politics : WWII and Modern Terrorism (Message 1794125)
    Posted 7 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They try to write these uncomfortable FACTS out of official history , shame people remember these things !!!


    Really?
    Whose history?
    I knew of this.
    So, not mine.
    1874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1793506)
    Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anybody tried the Slendertone abs belt?


    ?
    1875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1793297)
    Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait.
    Wait.
    Wait.

    Complex things require designers.
    Thor is infinitely more complex than humans.
    .
    So, who created Thor?
    1876) Message boards : Politics : The Valid Fears and Concerns of The American People (Message 1793247)
    Posted 4 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks all for participating in this thread. It appears I was operating under a misapprehension that "the valid fears and concerns of the American people" meant something other than "the fears and concerns of American people".

    You have run into the issue of language being fuzzy. Mathematics is precise. If you intended for people to "use common sense" common sense is not common. If you were looking for the mythical standard America, she doesn't exist.

    Perhaps what you wanted is what items concern 25% of more of Americans. Studies of such are done by firms like PEW so that candidates know what topics to rail about and where geographically it will play best. Obviously what they are will change with the demographics of any population, age, sex, party affiliation, ethnicity, etc. Again much money is spent researching this.


    So why not go with something like "Perhaps what you wanted is what items concern 25% of more of Americans"?
    1877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday to Angela! (Message 1792764)
    Posted 2 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Belated Birthday, Angela!
    1878) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1792595)
    Posted 1 Jun 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby...

    The Bush's have been rejected by both Republican Voter's and Democrats.

    Understanding the differences:

    What is happening in The Republican Party. Has an eerie resemblance to Reagan 1980.

    bobby...

    What ever happened to, Huge Negative Numbers, Reagan?


    I disagree.
    While Jeb(!) didn't get many votes (and Cruz didn't get much more), if you remove Trump from the conversation, you will hear several Republican voters defend George W. Bush (or Ted Cruz). At least that's what I am picking up in local conversations and discussions with conservative friends back home.

    Politics, is just a Game.

    Almost all politicians are in it, for their own gain.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.


    Of course, that's about the motivations of the candidates, not the voters' motivations for voting for them which I addressed.

    Talk to long time Republicans about the past and I'll bet they're still pro-Bush, etc. ... .


    Waiting (for the worms).
    1879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing Persons Bureau (a.k.a. The Mother Hens Thread) (Message 1792284)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge you've done that before, a pattern has been established.


    Reasons for patterns may be studied. :P
    1880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lose Weight With Monday II - Double Digits, but no double chins!!! (Message 1792283)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anybody tried the Slendertone abs belt?
    1881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing Persons Bureau (a.k.a. The Mother Hens Thread) (Message 1792255)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was gone about a month and nobody asked about me! Yay! :)
    1882) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1792188)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby...

    The Bush's have been rejected by both Republican Voter's and Democrats.

    Understanding the differences:

    What is happening in The Republican Party. Has an eerie resemblance to Reagan 1980.

    bobby...

    What ever happened to, Huge Negative Numbers, Reagan?


    I disagree.
    While Jeb(!) didn't get many votes (and Cruz didn't get much more), if you remove Trump from the conversation, you will hear several Republican voters defend George W. Bush (or Ted Cruz). At least that's what I am picking up in local conversations and discussions with conservative friends back home.

    Politics, is just a Game.

    Almost all politicians are in it, for their own gain.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.


    Of course, that's about the motivations of the candidates, not the voters' motivations for voting for them which I addressed.

    Talk to long time Republicans about the past and I'll bet they're still pro-Bush, etc. ... .
    1883) Message boards : Politics : The Valid Fears and Concerns of The American People (Message 1792181)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My FEAR and CONCERN:

    Bobby and Charp Existing and People As Bobby and Charp Existing.

    There are Many Bobby[s] and Charp[s].

    The Existence of These People, CONCERN Me. And I FEAR Their Existence is Harmful to All Peoples Not Them.

    The Above is VALID. And [Source] is Me.

    Yap.


    Then stop procreating. ;)
    1884) Message boards : Politics : The Valid Fears and Concerns of The American People (Message 1792160)
    Posted 30 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Samuel Clemens' Octagonal Study.



    It overlooks a pond. A nice place to sit and think at night.
    1885) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1791893)
    Posted 29 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby...

    The Bush's have been rejected by both Republican Voter's and Democrats.

    Understanding the differences:

    What is happening in The Republican Party. Has an eerie resemblance to Reagan 1980.

    bobby...

    What ever happened to, Huge Negative Numbers, Reagan?


    I disagree.
    While Jeb(!) didn't get many votes (and Cruz didn't get much more), if you remove Trump from the conversation, you will hear several Republican voters defend George W. Bush (or Ted Cruz). At least that's what I am picking up in local conversations and discussions with conservative friends back home.
    1886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What If... (Message 1784743)
    Posted 4 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would another species have reached self awareness or domination in the way we have?


    I've always wondered this about dinosaurs. They certainly were around long enough to get smart, so why didn't they invent computers?

    I read a Star Trek novel some years ago in which the Enterprise (no bloody A, B, C, or D) got into an alternate universe where there was no Federation and nobody had ever heard of humans. Eventually they discovered that in this universe, dinosaurs had survived the asteroid and become sentient and technological... and wiped themselves out with nukes or something because they still had the more ferocious temperament of their ancient forbears.

    [edit]
    I don't remember what species of dinosaur was in the book.


    If you remember the title, PM it to me?
    1887) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1784611)
    Posted 4 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There will be no learning from this.
    1888) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1784392)
    Posted 3 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could he not expect to be nominated?


    I think he's genuinely surprised he's gotten this far.


    That is what a woman that quit his campaign said.
    1889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1784352)
    Posted 2 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1890) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1784067)
    Posted 1 May 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Trump wins I would love to see what happens when he and Putin have their first face to face meeting.

    They will understand each other.

    LOL.
    A former school boy bully meeting a former KGB agent that played with rats as a child.
    How does that sound for a starter?

    Sounds correct, and it sometimes 'works'.

    ;) ;) ;)

    It would help if the two could speak the same language.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awWAd-jdwDg
    Kremlin chief of staff Sergei Ivanov and Putin sometimes converse in Swedish:)


    Here is some help to Donald.
    Even if you don't have any plans to speak Russian, learning these can be a real ice-breaker when you meet a Russian
    http://waytorussia.net/WhatIsRussia/Russian/Part2.html

    Forgot. Donald has been married to a russian woman:)


    So, do I have something in common with The Donald for dating a Ukrainian woman briefly?
    1891) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1783562)
    Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Trump wins I would love to see what happens when he and Putin have their first face to face meeting.


    They are alike in "one day I admire him" and the next day "I don't like him".
    Life is like a box of Trumpputins ... y never know what you're gonna get!
    1892) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1783544)
    Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's Time To Do It.

    Lots of People Decried NOT DOING ANYTHING 'bout The Many 'Humanitarian' 'Disasters' created by Men with Guns, Machetes, or Other Killing Devices, in Many Many Many Countries Throughout The World in Last Many Many Many Decades.

    Syria. The US Military Can Be Resonably Sure where Assad and His Cohorts are Located.

    With No Warning, and No Consideration for Civilians, It Is Time to DROP our Most Destructive Convential Bombs, On Top of Their Heads, and Keep Dropping until NOT A PEEP remains of Their Regime.

    And Do The Same for Korea and Any Other Nasty mO fOs About The World, who Contribute and Cause these 'Humanitarian' 'Disasters'.

    After These Regions Settle Down, A BIG OLE BILL for Services Rendered will be DROPPED on The New Government's Headquarters.

    Let's Do It.

    BIG DON for Prez. Where Hope becomes REAL CHANGE and All Fiends and Friendlies WILL PAY.

    Yap.


    And on another day, we can be isolationalist! Yippee! Yeppee!
    1893) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1783522)
    Posted 29 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's going to be great on climate change. He'll renegotiate with volcanoes and even with the Sun! He will get the best mathematicians, physicists and engineers together and when it's too warm he's going to have the orbit of the earth pushed back when it's too cold he's going to push it forward. It'll be a great climate! The best climate!!
    1894) Message boards : Politics : Unions? (Message 1779458)
    Posted 16 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, Darth Glenn, you really should ask more questions instead of making statements. Why not PM your question to me, so we can keep on topic?
    1895) Message boards : Politics : Unions? (Message 1779434)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Continue the discussion here?

    BTW, how was the abuse of alcohol and drugs before unions? More, less or the same? Sources?
    1896) Message boards : Politics : Forget Wikileaks & Snowden :-) (Message 1779432)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unions never did anything good for this country.
    Six day workweek, no overtime, no workers compensation insurance and no OSHA. Where does Mark sign up?


    Where did?
    1897) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1779430)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or am I missing simething?

    Yes. Elsewhere it is provided that the President can make appointments when the Senate is in adjournment. The Senate isn't that dumb.

    Recently, the Senate never goes into adjournment.

    Obama made appointments, when most members were out of Washington. When the Senate stated they were still In Session.

    SCOTUS ruled correctly, that only the Senate could say when they were in adjournment. And the Unconstitutional Appointments were vacated.

    In the USA. A President has no power, or authority, over another Branch of Government. Nor can tell it how to do its business.


    Bet they paid themselves while not technically adjourned.

    They get paid if they never gavel themselves into a session.


    And then pat themselves on the back believing they work hard, represent hard-working people and are doing things that allow us to rise?
    1898) Message boards : Politics : We need to push to allow nuclear weapons to be used in space. (Message 1779392)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw Sagan speak in person twice.


    Lucky you. :~)


    Live not too far away and have an intelligent father who knows letting his son see Sagan is a good idea, and ... .
    1899) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1779388)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or am I missing simething?

    Yes. Elsewhere it is provided that the President can make appointments when the Senate is in adjournment. The Senate isn't that dumb.

    Recently, the Senate never goes into adjournment.

    Obama made appointments, when most members were out of Washington. When the Senate stated they were still In Session.

    SCOTUS ruled correctly, that only the Senate could say when they were in adjournment. And the Unconstitutional Appointments were vacated.

    In the USA. A President has no power, or authority, over another Branch of Government. Nor can tell it how to do its business.


    Bet they paid themselves while not technically adjourned.
    1900) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1779387)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or am I missing simething?

    Yes. Elsewhere it is provided that the President can make appointments when the Senate is in adjournment. The Senate isn't that dumb.


    Smart enough to not take vacations until Trump is sworn in? :)
    1901) Message boards : Politics : We need to push to allow nuclear weapons to be used in space. (Message 1779385)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not for military purposes but solely for space travel. They should only be used when far enough from earths orbit that fallout will not be an issue. Carl Sagan once said it is the most appropriate use of nuclear weapons. It's a shame that they've been banned in this way. The Orion never took off. Anyone else agree?


    I saw Sagan speak in person twice. I am pretty darn certain he said the exact opposite. Do you have a link to a quote saying otherwise?
    1902) Message boards : Politics : Forget Wikileaks & Snowden :-) (Message 1779382)
    Posted 15 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Thread exploded. Apologies for previous posts being out-of-sync again... was doing other stuff while posting.

    CLYDE, I honestly can't remember. The best I can remember is:

    - strong unions

    Unfortunately it's a subject I know nothing about. But I do have 2 quick pieces of advice, off the top of my head:

    a) create a thread about it.

    b) do us all a favor, quit being a sissy, come out of your closet and just vote for Sanders 'cause that's what you really want to do :D

    Hi Alex... I was getting tired of (you know who);

    Yes, you are correct regarding Unions.

    Unlike believing you can created a Great System, putting Great People in Power. Who will not become corrupt (good luck):

    It appears that the only real 'solution' to Corrupt Centralized Political/Economic Power: Are other competing Corrupt Powers.

    In the case of the Working Class, and studying the History of National Unions:

    National Unions were able to increase the Standard of Living of their workers. Since every dollar spent, goes around 7 times. This also increases the Standard of Living for most.

    Therefore: Corrupt International Unions. Are the best remedy, and least dangerous solution, regarding Corrupt International Capitalist's.

    In short... Corrupt International Unions, competing with Corrupt International Capitalist's = A practical, and least dangerous, 'solution'.

    This will take decades, and violence. As it did with national unions.

    RE: Bernie

    He is the only Ethical and Moral Candidate.

    As I have stated, in past postings:

    Would not be a bad president. IF... The Republicans Control the Congress.


    As for the last sentence, if some think they've been obstructionist during Obama's presidency, just imagine how much more so they'll be to a democratic socialist.

    As for unions, I think so many people have bought into the lines about unions since the 80s as the union-busting has continued, namely under Scott Walker in Wisconsin.
    1903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1777273)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @betreger:
    Really sir, you can speak for Blighty?

    Many decades ago while in university near the northern border I had some Canadian roommates and teammates and I learned their ways. Among other things I learned was all sentences ended with the question eh? I shall be going north tomorrow to watch a rugby match and verify with some of them then, eh?
    Hail Thor and his design, eh?


    What are you going on aboot?
    1904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1777254)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's it:

    Flame War!


    :):)



    Thunder and Lightening skirmish!
    1905) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1777252)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Haven't you been reading about the FBI breaking encryption? Can't verify without unbreakable encryption.


    No, I haven't really been following that. There should be some sort of solution for internet voting. If everybody was honest, it would work. ;~)

    If everybody was honest we wouldn't need a massive government, or elections or the need to vote.


    So, "honesty" and "different ideas" are mutually exclusive? I.E., the set of all completely honest people contains only those with the same ideas?
    1906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My niece is evil (grin). (Message 1777251)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge wrote:

    Is she cute? :)

    I'll let you decide. From left-to-right, my niece's mom, my niece's sister (after neck surgery), and my niece:



    BTW, my niece didn't have time to pull the joke and didn't want to do it from out of town. But, she's considering it for next year's April Fools' Day. Her sister had some kind of "bone" surgery. Not sure what it entailed.


    All are cute and the mom is probably closer to my age range. :) But at least 26 is not 18!
    1907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thor is the Designer Cafe! (Message 1777250)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With this move possibly more people will realize the importance of Thor and his design especially to Canada, eh?


    All hail Thor and his intelligent ways!
    1908) Message boards : Politics : Forget Wikileaks & Snowden :-) (Message 1777030)
    Posted 8 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The kicker is going to be when they find an account in Hillary's name.......that Bill didn't know about........or vice versa. ":-)>


    Or Obama
    or The Donald
    or TrusTed Ted (or Heidi).

    Equal time.
    Fair and balanced. :P
    1909) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1776761)
    Posted 7 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have to wonder if the two parties had to have "none of the above" on the list, how well "none of the above" would have done.


    Related: how do y6u decide who gets the delegates if who originally one has since dropped out? Why the heck the U.S. doesn't employ ranked voting, at least at some point, is beyond me.

    There are two types of "dropping out"
    1. those who drop out and remove their name from the list
    2. those who suspend their active campaign but remain on the list of nominees.

    for 1.'s they can either vote
    a. for whoever they wish,
    b. follow recommendation of their former candidate,
    c. if a candidate has the 50% + 1, or more, then voting for that nominee is common, to maintain party unity.

    for 2.'s they should still vote for their candidate.
    u
    edit] They, of course, could choose to abstain.

    There are also different State rules for the delegates if it goes to a second or more votes.


    My point was not to ask how it is done, but to ask why it is not done some other way. Has any suspender of a campaign ever revived his or her campaign? I am not aware of this ever happening, but I admit I could be wrong.

    Thus, to reduce the risk of contested conventions and bribes and riots, why not do the following?

    Voter ranks five still running (at an earlier point in time):

    Cruz
    Trump
    Bush
    Kasich
    Rubio

    Bush drops out, so that voter's ranking becomes:

    Cruz
    Trump
    Kasich
    Rubio

    Rubio drops out:

    Cruz
    Trump
    Kasich

    If, by some weird event, Cruz dropped out before Kasich, we'd have.

    Trump over Kasich.

    There'd be much less question as to "what the people have decided".
    1910) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1776720)
    Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have to wonder if the two parties had to have "none of the above" on the list, how well "none of the above" would have done.


    Related: how do y6u decide who gets the delegates if who originally one has since dropped out? Why the heck the U.S. doesn't employ ranked voting, at least at some point, is beyond me.
    1911) Message boards : Politics : Are you left wing or right wing? (Message 1776718)
    Posted 6 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel.


    Much in the last few days to respond to, but I'll respond to just this for now. I am crying foul about the article describing the research and then linking to the test. We did not see a research journal article about the test, nor the test as originally presented. So, yes, the version Es linked us to was probably a bit tongue-in-cheek.
    Did anyone here actually think this was meant to be a serious test? I think it was very tongue-in-cheek with a kernel of truth. I see several people crying foul bs when all of us should be smarter than this.
    1912) Message boards : Politics : Are you left wing or right wing? (Message 1776304)
    Posted 5 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's settle this once and for all. Try to answer honestly. I am actually curious about whether Americans who call themselves centrists are actually right wing.

    There's a simple test to tell whether you’re more left-wing or right-wing

    You'll never guess what I came out as (actually, you will)


    What the heck?
    Why are we being told what the outcome should be before we can find the link to the test???
    Terrible terrible terrible methodology!
    Shall I now predict what the test will say about me, without taking it, and why I believe so based on what I do know about myself?
    1913) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1776287)
    Posted 4 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darth...

    It took awhile. But I finally succeeded in having you exposing yourself.

    Obviously you are one of the 'If you ain't US. You must be THEM', Left/Right Wingers.

    Just a couple of questions:

    Why doesn't the Hate-filled, believing in their Superiority, Right and Need to Control Others - Left/Right/Marxist/NAZI/KKK/Progressives. Understand they are only Projecting their own inner hate, upon others?

    IE: Whites are... Men are... Straights are... White Privilege (Disgustingly similar to the NAZI Jewish Privilege).

    What is their twisted inner need to do this?


    Something we don't see don't hear and don't acknowledge ........

    Tea Party's = Policy made from drunken people AKA: Gossip feast , the back stabbers club !

    Gossip = To big note ones self's I'D by putting others down

    Gossip = local church , coffee shop , local footy Club , R.S.L , Blah ,Blah


    Glenn, Glenn, Glenn ... .
    Do you recall what kind of work I do?
    If so, would you be surprised that among my department there is one socialist amongst many coservatives, including one I am pretty sure has gone to Tea Party meetings?
    1914) Message boards : Politics : Are you left wing or right wing? (Message 1776284)
    Posted 4 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It says I'm left wing, so you know it's 100% reliable and accurate.

    Maybe I want the same things many of you in here want, I just compare history to modern day, apply some principles and see I want to do what has worked in the past while many of you in here want to repeat history for some reason.

    I think I'm done here.


    You're done here until you're not again. History shows this trend at least 3 times. Having triangulated, chances are good it will happen again.

    BTW, as a left-handsr, I am the only one in my right mind.
    1915) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1775715)
    Posted 2 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which you should go and study, rather than posting your beliefs.
    And there we are with the usual leftist BS tactic of stifling free speech when they disagree.


    WK, a leftie? If I really roflmao, I'd be doing just that right now.
    Please, stick around, don't have a heart attack and run to the Cafe only for several months. Really get to know people.

    Well, instead of taces going to funding college education (STEM or otherwise, from this STEM guy right herrrre), I supposed we could put our tax money to:

    (1) Depose this ruler but not that ruler and
    (2) funding our "allies" that are the true sources of the ISI ideology.

    Oh, wait. We already to that.
    So, if we stopped these interventions ... hmmm, well, let's just tax less!
    1916) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1775625)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you in favor of investments?
    1917) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1775622)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only problem with this statement is you've only picked the worst examples of socialist countries.
    And the best examples are...........

    Do you really not know of other countries that are already somewhat socialist?
    Isn't Social Security somewhat socialist?
    1918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My niece is evil (grin). (Message 1775605)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I admit I put her up to it, hehe. In the USA, a week from tomorrow, it's April Fools day. My 26-year-old single niece lives next door with her mom while she's attending college. And we were talking the other day when the subject of April Fools day came up. She asked me for a good one to pull on her mom.

    First, realize that though she's 26 years old, her mom treats her like she's a teenager ... always wanting to know who she's going out with and when she'll be coming home. So, this is what I suggested. I asked her if any of her female friends are currently pregnant. She said YES. So (evil grin), I told her to go to a drug store like Walgreens or Rite-Aid and buy 3 different brands of home pregnancy tests ... the ones that "turn blue" if you're pregnant. Then I told her to get her friend to pee on the test media ... making them turn blue. And then, on the morning of April 1st, she'll run to her mom, test media in hand, with a worried look on her face and say, "Oh my God, Mom, they all turned blue!"

    That should put some color in her mom's cheeks, hehehe ... until she laughs a few seconds later and says "April Fools!"


    Is she cute? :)
    1919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My niece is evil (grin). (Message 1775604)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Occasionally, pregnancy test jokes can have profound results.


    Darwin works in mysterious ways, for it to be "pregnancy" and sometimes "testicular cancer". Must be some sort of evolutionary advantage.
    1920) Message boards : Politics : North Korea. (Message 1775599)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    American student was sentenced to 15 years in prison for crimes against the state. What I want to know is why would any American go to N. Korea in the first place?


    In my case, morbid curiosity.

    I heard that student was trying to collect souvenirs, which was pretty dumb.


    There are two reasonable sides to this. As you say, it's pretty dumb.
    On the other, it's a pretty harsh response. Over-punishment. Yeah, probably some punishment could be expected, but 15 years hard labor.
    North Korea ... it ain't the communism, it's the totalitarianism that's the problem.
    Slightly off-topic: heard anything about Turkey's leader, lately? Dude looks to be going to the totalitarian route lately. Going so far as to tell government's of other countries what to censor.
    1921) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1775597)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, your selective reading (as many others in here do) suggests you're going to disagree with me no matter what I say.


    I think your selective interpretation of my opinions makes you think I'm going to disagree with you no matter what you say. I used to agree with a few things you said in the past before you erased it all. I even still agree with a few things you say need to change. I simply disagree with your method and your political position.


    +1

    Guy has always, from his first moment here, tried to turn those not in 100% complete agreement with him into an enemy. And Trump will probably do the same. Call Obama a dictator and then cry out for some other authoritarian to undo his work. Ironic.
    1922) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1775596)
    Posted 1 Apr 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The majority of AMERICAN CITIZENS believe the whole can needs to kicked over in Washington and the professional politicians(read pathological liars and felonious thieves) run out of town.

    I would much rather that be accomplished by a Capitalist Pig than by either of the Socialist/Communist/Idiots running from the left.

    There are SO MANY shining examples of the wonderful lives enjoyed by those living in Socialist societies......N. Korea, Nicaragua, Cuba...and all the advances made in technology and medicine in those vaunted venues.........
    "Just exactly what is your fair share of something someone else worked for?"

    "The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state." Thomas Sowell


    The only problem with this statement is you've only picked the worst examples of socialist countries.
    1923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rock make overs (Message 1774982)
    Posted 29 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More Sounds of Silence
    1924) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1774641)
    Posted 28 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is a narcissist arsehole and would no doubt bankrupt America like he has so many of his own businesses, but the one who really scares me is Cruz. He's the one who believes in the End of Days.

    Es99...

    Trump is not an A.. H... Nor does his bankruptcies mean anything. Just 'Business' with other Mega Capitalists (Trump won).

    Trump is playing The Left for the fools they are. And also winning. Negative attacks will not be effective. As Republicans learned.

    To defeat a Trump: Stay positive. Don't attack his supporters as (fill-in the negatives).

    Regarding Cruz: You may be correct.

    BTW: I am busier than I have ever been. Not a boring life in my senior years.


    Are we "allowed" to mention his negatives without calling him slurs or addressing those slurs to his supporters?
    1925) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1773267)
    Posted 22 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have a theory that Nixon was set up by his own party after he imposed a very unrepublican wage and price freeze. I think he didn't know about the Watergate break in until after it happened. Why spy on a campaign that was already predicted to lose big? After that his paranoia and ego took over his thinking.

    Back to Trump, recalling a movie called Brewsters Millions we should all vote for "None of the Above" then congress would have to pick the next President.


    Do you trust Congress to do it right either?
    1926) Message boards : Politics : M E T Three (Message 1773105)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of out how many?


    Is it any better than knowing how a few react badly to a no? You did say it is a problem among "mainstream" Muslims.
    1927) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1773103)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Richard Nixon was d Democrat, wasn't he?
    (Please pardon me if I am wrong, I was 6 when he resigned and my Dad tried to take Polaroids of it as it was shown on TV. And the funny thing is, he revealed later that it was not this day that he thought the Republicans ... I mean Democrats, had left him.)

    Sarge...

    I was a Street Cop when he resigned.

    That was after The Republicans, led by Barry Goldwater, went to the White House to tell him: GOODBYE!!!!!

    Nixon, in my opinion. Was an excellent Foreign Policy President.

    BTW: Believe I have previously related having coffee with him, a couple of years later. He paid. Didn't have to. We got free coffee back then.


    I believe you'd mentioned you'd met. I don't recall if you provided the other detail.
    However, I was saying what I did to counter Major's claim of someone simply trying to demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.
    1928) Message boards : Politics : M E T Three (Message 1773098)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    M E T 1

    M E T 2

    Please continue the discussion here.


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76688&postid=1773080

    Not good enough! Mainstream Islam & it's extremists all have one thing in common...

    They don't like hearing one word

    NO

    Change that mindset 1st & then you may see changes for the better.


    Really? I guess that explains how nothing happened when Akram asked out Jessica (25% Syrian) in 2006 and she said no.

    She's married to an Anglo now and Akram recently married a Muslim woman.
    1929) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1773076)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Islamic honour. Shooting a woman in the back of the head because she rejected him. What a brave wonderful honourable man he is.

    I hope you're being sarcastic, bro :-(

    Side stepped that nicely sis. So no view on so called called honour killings?

    Where's the honour in killing a defenceless woman & all because she said NO!


    We already had this discussion elsewhere, brother. We all need to throw away/disregard every religious text and passage that promotes the subjugation of our sisters imo. There aint any that are truly "dormant". Wouldn't leave much would it.
    1930) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1773055)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just don't have the time to wade through divisively politicised religious texts, mon. Sorry.

    From the above quote, I take it that you did not read that book, so your comment is not valid.

    I attended two of her lectures in 2004, bro, and no way was I the only one who found them offensive. She's a regular on several US channels and time hasn't softened her messages of hate.

    So yeah, I'm not commenting on the book you recommended. I'm commenting on my reluctance to read it when I've heard its author, in person, describe a large proportion of decent people as subhuman, and who dismisses peaceful Muslims as "irrelevant".

    Not difficult finding anti-islamic material all over main stream media these days, brother.

    That may be true, but why is that you think? Let's take a look at just one reason shall we?

    Islamic honour. Shooting a woman in the back of the head because she rejected him. What a brave wonderful honourable man he is.

    I hope you're being sarcastic, bro :-(

    Don't you think it would be much more honourable if Islam stopped treating women like chattels - Now that would go mainstream & surprise all, much more than showing the world that it's a POS.

    We already had this discussion elsewhere, brother. We all need to throw away/disregard every religious text and passage that promotes the subjugation of our sisters imo. There aint any that are truly "dormant". Wouldn't leave much would it.

    This caught my eye a few months back. I'm posting it because Duke's where I first came across Brigitte Gabriel. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/23/muslim-call-to-prayer-duke-university-highlights-divisions-solidarity
    No need to read it if you don't want to, bro. :-)


    To put it more succinctly, it appears she hates as much as some of them hate.
    I have heard some much better commentaries speaking out against Islamic extremism than hers. You might be surprised where these commentaries are coming from.
    1931) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1772988)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ....

    The democrats (most of whom are felons) want to force their idea of heaven on everybody by ignoring the rules we all originally agreed on.

    So that statement must make you a democrat as well Guy, seeing as you've ignored plenty of rules as well as trying to push religion on us here in your past (most of which you edited out before being dropped as a mod) and there's no telling how many other things you've done in your private life (if you do that stuff here then it stands to reason that you'll likely do it anywhere and everywhere). ;-)

    Cheers.


    Richard Nixon was d Democrat, wasn't he?
    (Please pardon me if I am wrong, I was 6 when he resigned and my Dad tried to take Polaroids of it as it was shown on TV. And the funny thing is, he revealed later that it was not this day that he thought the Republicans ... I mean Democrats, had left him.)

    Of course he was a super left wing one. He negotiated with Red China!


    I blame the sucking sound down south on Nixon. And M.L.
    (China is in South America, right?)
    1932) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1772944)
    Posted 21 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ....

    The democrats (most of whom are felons) want to force their idea of heaven on everybody by ignoring the rules we all originally agreed on.

    So that statement must make you a democrat as well Guy, seeing as you've ignored plenty of rules as well as trying to push religion on us here in your past (most of which you edited out before being dropped as a mod) and there's no telling how many other things you've done in your private life (if you do that stuff here then it stands to reason that you'll likely do it anywhere and everywhere). ;-)

    Cheers.


    Richard Nixon was d Democrat, wasn't he?
    (Please pardon me if I am wrong, I was 6 when he resigned and my Dad tried to take Polaroids of it as it was shown on TV. And the funny thing is, he revealed later that it was not this day that he thought the Republicans ... I mean Democrats, had left him.)
    1933) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1772930)
    Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, please stop lying.


    I'm not lying.

    Well, according to the democrat's (most of whom are felons) definition of lying, I'm not lying.

    If the democrats raise their standard for civil discourse, I'll raise mine.

    FTFY

    You know you are lying and now you're also abdicating personal responsibility for your actions.

    Is it an ambition of yours to be known as a liar and a troll?


    Bobby,

    Hasn't it been said by mods here to not go around calling other posters by that term 'troll'?

    Besides, he is not exactly lying... He is using a technique of rhetoric that can be termed 'demonstrating absurdity by being absurd'. Your constant demand for 'sources' can be trying at times, since you can come up with a source that can be construed to support any statement that you might want to make.

    He is just doing that trying to convince you to stop being so... silly...


    If that's his version of "demonstrating absurdity by being absurd", I don't think he's doing it very well. And when I sometimes employed it here, lots hated me for it. (Which is not to say I'll never do it again.)


    Anywho, the Brett Fahhh-ver-ray of S@H Pollutics has an RAC down to 133, so he'll be gone until he's back soon. In the meantime, "Little Guy" will probably feel contrition that he'll express privately because he had to go negative and use methods of "argumentation" that went against his fundamental being whilst going up against The Bobby.
    1934) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1772908)
    Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, please stop lying.


    I'm not lying.

    Well, according to the democrat's (most of whom are felons) definition of lying, I'm not lying.

    If the democrats raise their standard for civil discourse, I'll raise mine.

    FTFY

    You know you are lying and now you're also abdicating personal responsibility for your actions.

    Is it an ambition of yours to be known as a liar and a troll?


    Bobby,

    Hasn't it been said by mods here to not go around calling other posters by that term 'troll'?

    Besides, he is not exactly lying... He is using a technique of rhetoric that can be termed 'demonstrating absurdity by being absurd'. Your constant demand for 'sources' can be trying at times, since you can come up with a source that can be construed to support any statement that you might want to make.

    He is just doing that trying to convince you to stop being so... silly...


    If that's his version of "demonstrating absurdity by being absurd", I don't think he's doing it very well. And when I sometimes employed it here, lots hated me for it. (Which is not to say I'll never do it again.)
    1935) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1772850)
    Posted 20 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nobody know what "Repugnicants ... equals Unthinking, extreme right" means. It doesn't make any sense to call our constitution "unthinking and extreme right" by any stretch of anyone's imagination.


    Nice job putting words in my mouth.
    1936) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Astronomers discover the biggest object in the Universe so far - the BOSS Great Wall (Message 1772493)
    Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And we sit on an insignificant little flyspeck of a planet in an insignificant galaxy proud of ourselves at how much we think we know.


    +1
    1937) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1772475)
    Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary and No Name are the same.

    Both make a couple of valid points (a million monkeys, typing a million years...)

    But the Foundation of their Unthinking (Give us 'The Power') Philosophy.

    Is what we must stop!


    Do you really think Gary wants power? Yes, he makes over-the-top comments at times. Sometimes he is sarcastic. I've been that way as well.

    On the other hand, I think we can pretty sure Guy wants power or to have a lot more say in who gets power. (Guy, are you a super-delegate in disguise?)

    We also know how, when in power, Guy has abused power. Do we know of something similar for Gary? I don't think so.


    Put another way, without further direct comments from you or Gary, when I read him saying "Repugnicants" it equals "Unthinking, extreme right" in the voice I assign you and, similarly "Demoncrats" = "Unthinking, extreme left".
    1938) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1772472)
    Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary and No Name are the same.

    Both make a couple of valid points (a million monkeys, typing a million years...)

    But the Foundation of their Unthinking (Give us 'The Power') Philosophy.

    Is what we must stop!


    Do you really think Gary wants power? Yes, he makes over-the-top comments at times. Sometimes he is sarcastic. I've been that way as well.

    On the other hand, I think we can pretty sure Guy wants power or to have a lot more say in who gets power. (Guy, are you a super-delegate in disguise?)

    We also know how, when in power, Guy has abused power. Do we know of something similar for Gary? I don't think so.
    1939) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1772471)
    Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I repeat, with all the sincerity I can muster.

    Donald John Trump IS going to be our next president.
    You can discuss or cuss about it all you want to.

    I believe this is true, and you better start to get used to it.
    Nobody is going to out trump Trump in this election.

    Certainly not Hillarious. I hope she is soon in prison where she belongs.

    Didn't know you believed in miracles.


    As Mark is a Theist, yes, yes he does.
    Now, could God be on Trump's side?
    Note to the haters of haters: point out Mark is a Theist is not hate.
    1940) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1772280)
    Posted 18 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor, I bessech Thee, please allow your next Thor's-day to be a little more peaceful.
    1941) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1771751)
    Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked it before. I'll ask again, in a somewhat naive phrasing this time: why do people LOVE what is supposed to be a TOOL for self-defense?

    It gives people who don't think it through a sense of security, usually wrongly.

    You only need to look at the number of firearm accidents, suicides and the number of times they get into the wrong hands, other family members or criminals who steal them.


    I'm not sure that answers it.
    For example (apologies to vegetarians), "I loooove a good steak!"
    3 locks on my doors also provides a sense of security, but do people say "I looove locks. I get 'jacked up' locking my soors!"?

    People do have preferences in the weapons they use, how it fits their hands, and into the shoulder for rifles, where the safety catch and magazine release are, and most importantly the balance. Sights can usually be changed.

    I didn't like the UK Armies SLR (modified FN) when I served, and would prefer to be on the Bren or GPMG.
    But by far preferred my Anshutz rifle I used for Biathlon. But I wouldn't say I loved it, it was a tool that suited me best.

    It's probably to do with the language used by so many people in the media these days, they love this and are so excited about that.


    But, as a tool, why do you not then here people say "I am so excited about this new [insert name brand] hammer I got for Christmas. Dang, I can't wait to go swing that against some nails, knock them nails into wood. Shoot, all that swinging and pounding gets me ALL jacked up! Yee haw!!!"? (Or, do you hear people speak that way? Can't say I recall anyone doing so.)
    1942) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1771721)
    Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked it before. I'll ask again, in a somewhat naive phrasing this time: why do people LOVE what is supposed to be a TOOL for self-defense?

    It gives people who don't think it through a sense of security, usually wrongly.

    You only need to look at the number of firearm accidents, suicides and the number of times they get into the wrong hands, other family members or criminals who steal them.


    I'm not sure that answers it.
    For example (apologies to vegetarians), "I loooove a good steak!"
    3 locks on my doors also provides a sense of security, but do people say "I looove locks. I get 'jacked up' locking my soors!"?
    1943) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1771667)
    Posted 15 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked it before. I'll ask again, in a somewhat naive phrasing this time: why do people LOVE what is supposed to be a TOOL for self-defense?
    1944) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1771482)
    Posted 14 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Left and Progressives are Fundamentally Unintelligent and/or in need of Psychiatric help.


    Most democrats are felons.

    No Name...

    You left out the The Right and KKK.

    An innocent omission?


    No.
    1945) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1771068)
    Posted 12 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Democrats (Hillary) better stop calling these people sexist and racist names.

    And Republicans better stop insults, sexual innuendo and just plain bizarre antics.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35729921

    janne...

    You are also correct.

    No, you are incorrect. Janne is correct about the Republican candidates, whether you are also correct is unknown as you have yet to provide any sources to validate your assertion, despite being asked for them.


    Does this serve as a source for what Clyde is talking about? Even if Clyde is talking about something different, I de think Bernie has had a mis-step.

    Sarge...

    Disagree.

    Bernie is also tapping into a large part of the American people's anger. As Trump is.

    Noooooo... They are NOT the same danger.

    American politics has changed. With a Billionaire Capitalist and a Socialist, capturing peoples imagination.

    The 'Rules' have changed. The Republican Establishment appears to have finally admitted to the 'New Reality'.

    Will the Democrat Establishment (Hillary) understand?


    To say that whites do not know what is like to be poor, or to live in a generally low income area, is in my opinion a mis-step. To say I don't know what the experience of Blacks is, or poor blacks, is fair. I can only really know my own experience.

    I do not believe Trump is tapping into the same mood as Sanders is. As a friend of mine from high school said elsewhere:

    I think I get what people mean when they say Trump says what everyone is thinking. They mean he expresses anger we can't express in daily life We can't punch each other for being idiots and he somehow makes it seem like maybe we could and that would somehow be a good thing. But really if we want to go with how stuff makes us wish we could react, bad driving would be grounds for immediate capital punishment, at least in my book. In any case while it's nice to think you could punch someone you think needs it, do you really want to be punched by someone who thinks you need it? Keep in mind I'm pretty critical so I probably have thought you need it.
    1946) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1770767)
    Posted 10 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Democrats (Hillary) better stop calling these people sexist and racist names.

    And Republicans better stop insults, sexual innuendo and just plain bizarre antics.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35729921

    janne...

    You are also correct.

    No, you are incorrect. Janne is correct about the Republican candidates, whether you are also correct is unknown as you have yet to provide any sources to validate your assertion, despite being asked for them.


    Does this serve as a source for what Clyde is talking about? Even if Clyde is talking about something different, I de think Bernie has had a mis-step.
    1947) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1770683)
    Posted 10 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great sources. Wonderful sources.The best sources. HUUUGE sources.
    1948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1770445)
    Posted 8 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There appear to be several cat impressions in the rug.
    1949) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1770264)
    Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it actual Christian persecution? (How does it compare to un-doubtable Christian persecution taking place in Africa, the Middle East and Asia?)

    Is it the perception of persecution, manipulated by church leaders that know it is not but their followers do not realize it? Is it oppressors playing the victim? (If so, not tolerating the intolerant should be applied.)

    If the latter, how will Trump, Cruz or Rubio attempt to use it to his advantage if at all?
    1950) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1770177)
    Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What assaults against Religious Freedoms?

    WinterKnight...
    Assault against Religious Freedoms????

    I'm an Atheist, and can see it. Can't you?

    Typical CLYDE response, make a claim, fail to provide any substance when asked.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYaJjiHr4rs
    1951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Former First Lady, Nancy Reagan has passed. (Message 1770173)
    Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Farewell Mrs. Reagan.
    1952) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1770164)
    Posted 7 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like his signature.


    Why?
    It's back and forth on whether it leans left or right.

    1953) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education 2 (Message 1769746)
    Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a^b^c in Excel example
    4^3^2 = 4096.
    However.
    (4^3)^2 = 4096
    4^(3^2) = 262144

    a^b^c is an example where parenthesis are nescessary not only in Excel but in general math as well.

    Exponents go before Mult and Div.

    Again. Parenthesis gives instructions to the parser how to handle precedences.

    Parenthesis is not needed in general maths, you start at the top, therefore b^c is done first.


    Really?

    F = R([(1 + i)^n - 1] / i), where i = r / m and n = m * t.

    These may not be using letters your familiar with, but does this look like a formula you've seen that gets frequent use?
    1954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1769657)
    Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "And Drumpf calls hum 'Little Marco'?!?"
    1955) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1769623)
    Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    but is un-shakeable in his conservatism

    Brain damage can cause that?


    Sorry, I did not mean to come close to suggesting a link.
    1956) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education 2 (Message 1769622)
    Posted 5 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    if the precedence of operators is in question, then wouldn't it be:
    (10 + 10) * (0 + 10) = 200
    ?

    No:)
    You use parenthesis to change the precedence of operators as you just did.
    200 is the correct answer in your case.
    But the question given is without any parenthesis and gives 10 + 0 + 10 = 20.
    NO. The precedence has not been specified. Computer Geeks know that there is more than one system of precedence and know that the system must be specified or the problem can't be parsed.

    in a western math class 20 is the answer, but that incurs an assumption


    When I use MAPLE, a computer algebra system that will do arithmetic, algebra, calculus and more, it knows the order of operations. So do TI-83/84 graphing calculators. Though it's been a while, I do not recall ever being told when I learned to program that the language being used "was unaware" of the usual order.

    Bobby, Janne is correct.
    1957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1769569)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Casting call for a re-imagined 'Are You Being Served?'"
    1958) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education 2 (Message 1769567)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sigh.



    The person who shared this said 10 and after I wrote out the solution, following the order of operations (yielding 20) insisted it was 10.
    1959) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1769566)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, where is his voter base? And would you want to meet one of them in a dark alley?


    I've met at least 2, while out for 1-2 beers and karaoke. (One happens to have been hit by a truck when he was 14 and continues into his 40s to deal with a traumatic brain injury. He strikes me as eloquent [when not drinking], is my friend, but is un-shakeable in his conservatism.)
    1960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1769509)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Guess what we are? Paranormal Investigators for the SyFy Channel or the next best thing since 'New Kids on the Block', 'Menudo', "Backstreet Boys', ''N'Sync' and 'One Direction'?"
    1961) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1769507)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder what his view on disabled persons is. It's probably our fault we have been afflicted and are a burden on society.

    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn


    Beat me to it.
    1962) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1769482)
    Posted 4 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Speaking of ... as I've mentioned two or three times here, if I (of German, English & Irish descent) can be mistaken for a Hispanic by a Mexican named Sergio, who's to say The Donald wouldn't think so, too?
    1963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1769016)
    Posted 2 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump
    1964) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1768921)
    Posted 2 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Missing Story of the 2014 Election.
    1965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1768842)
    Posted 1 Mar 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posted on youtube by Julie today!
    1966) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1768691)
    Posted 29 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Believe 'No Name' 'is' A 'Law' 'Enforcement' 'Entity', Fishing fO Like-Minded.

    Once Hooked, This 'Entity' will 'Decide' if 'Fish' 'is' 'Worth' 'Catching'.

    Usually, 'Like' 'Minded' will be A 'Fish' Under 'Size' 'Limit' and 'Thrown' Back.

    IOWs, usual WASTE of Time and 'Money'.

    RED BUTTON Don fO Prez in '16

    Yap.


    CLYDE is the former officer, actually.
    Guy is ex-Air Force and now teachers computer programming, or something along those lines.
    1967) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1768676)
    Posted 29 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because none of you cannot refute what I say, or refute what I quote others as saying, you digress into the Alinsky rules for radicals and insult me, and attack me with veiled threats (and the moderators allow this).

    When I make a spelling mistake, some of you point it out with "[sic]" to try to invalidate what I say.

    Your short-term thinking, which is encouraged by the mentality of the 140 character limit septic tank of twitter, is the natural cycle of civilizations.

    You want two classes of people: those who are smart (who you claim to be a member of), who are exempt from manual labour [sic] and those who are stupid and *do* the manual labour [sic] which serves you.


    NO I DO NOT!!! Nor do I support this. Thus, you are refuted,

    Our founder lit the fire of individual freedom and fanned those flames greater than at any time in the history of human existence.

    You'll never be able to extinguish it.

    Trump is scary. Yes. But to continue with what we are doing is even more scary. Look at history. History has lessons. And because of your arrogance, you'd rather destroy everything around you than admit that there are some in history who are smarter than you.


    You are ignoring some history yourself.
    1968) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1768629)
    Posted 29 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I suspect Guy (no name, to those unaware) is shocked by several independents and Libertarians speaking out against Trump.
    1969) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1768504)
    Posted 29 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please, let's get back on topic, and stop the internal bickering.

    Sounds good.

    Since V.P. Biden, back in 1992, stated there should be No Nomination to SCOTUS, in an Election Year:

    Has his position changed?


    Without including Bobby's respnose in my reply, I say: I thought the GOP was supposed to be the party of integrity. If they thought Biden was wrong then, then why is it not wrong now. What would O.W. Holmes say?
    1970) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1768503)
    Posted 29 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Huh?
    Intentionally invoking Godwin's law.
    In December 2015, Godwin cited several articles on Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump for their Nazi and Fascist comparisons.[13]


    No, it's the effect of years worth of pundits conflating fascism with communism, Hitler with Stalin. Because there was totalitarianism and crimes against humanity, they can no longer tell the difference. The two extreme ends have been glued together to go from the one-dimensional line of a political spectrum to a topolgiocally non-homeomorphic circle.

    That, and a deliberately misleading name chosen by Hitler and his party seals the deal for them. It'd be like me changing my screen name to "Dr. Sarge, Professor of Economics, History, Psychology and Politics" and someone here believing me. (Then yelling at me for getting something wrong about Skinnerian theory.)

    [Guess what the next name change of a certain poster will be, once he's tired of the farm? ;)]
    1971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1768426)
    Posted 28 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sigh.... It would be nice if anyone would actually buy my CD :(

    Really difficult when you have to do everything yourself. The artistic side, the promotional side, the economic side,.. it's all for me.. *sob*

    Link me, and I'll buy one.
    I love you hon.
    And you know that........we have some history.

    BIG hugs. Really big hugs.

    Now, gimme that link again.......
    And I hope a few others get the hint here.
    Julie needs our support.


    https://www.discogs.com/Rozz777rozz777-rOZZ-Songs-From-My-Seasick-Guitar/release/8157515
    1972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This house that Seti built................ (Message 1768396)
    Posted 28 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    + 1
    I did 2 years as a mod. It sure is full of stress. To be fair to the mods, They get it from the posters, From each other when they do have discussions on what should happen and from Fred if they do make a bad choice.

    I still say the Café is getting to rowdy.


    James, with all due respect, one indicator of both the vitality and the rowdiness of the Cafe is how many days it's been since the thread showing at the bottom of p. 1 has been posted in. As I respond, it is currently 8 days. It's been that way a long time. At a time when the Cafe was both rowdy yet had a vitality to it, what would show at the bottom of the page was probably, at best, 12 hours old. Maybe at worst 1 or 2 days old.
    1973) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1768098)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge Ted Cruz is a republican .


    He is?
    1974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This house that Seti built................ (Message 1767971)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wanna COOK? I know the chemistry. 'Bout to break bad. 20k in 20 minutes.


    Interesting beginning to your sig, Mark,
    1975) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767968)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...
    The age of the Zodiac Killer would ne, at a fair minimum, 65 years. Cruz is around the age of you and I, Es...


    How do you know how old he is?

    Have you seen his birth certificate?


    Had no reason to believe otherwise, but now this ceritifies I was correct about Cruz's age range.



    The Zodiac Killer's killing spree began before Ted was born, unless Ted is a time-travelling Teddy ... errr, Freddy Krueger.
    1976) Message boards : Politics : "Apple, The FBI And iPhone Encryption: A Look At What's At Stake" (Message 1767966)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, I see you have a credit of more than 100 million.

    When it comes to myself, the total credit here is about 7 million.

    Is English the same language, or did you happen to learn to speak this way?

    Presumably this is still Seti@home.


    No, this Einstein@. Close, but no cigar.
    1977) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767965)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, it looks like Trump is leading by double digits in Florida currently.
    But that's among those interested in voting in a Republican primary.
    Half asleep during 30 minute news tonight, but I could swear I heard, at the same time Florida in general would be 60-70% scared or angry if Trump ends up the nominee? Did I hear right? I am trying to find more info on that poll.
    1978) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767961)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One more chink in the armor of Trump, along with hiring of foreign workers.

    Poll: Nearly 40 Percent of Florida Voters Think Ted Cruz Might Be the Zodiac Killer

    I believe it.


    Ridiculous.
    The age of the Zodiac Killer would ne, at a fair minimum, 65 years. Cruz is around the age of you and I, Es.

    Here's a good reason to be concerned about Cruz. And Rubio. Even for Christians, because their brand of Christianity could be the "wrong" denomination.

    Cruz = Theocrat?

    Rubio = Theocrat?
    1979) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767931)
    Posted 27 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Point out that he's not making any sense on whatever subject and you're a communist. I have no problem calling this guy an idiot, and if POTUS I'll still be calling him an idiot. But I'd rather not be calling the President an idiot if you know what I mean.


    Put another way, the USA was born of a protest.
    No person is perfect.
    So no president can be perfect.
    Given that mistakes will be made, does Mark or anyone else want to be the one to feel the wrath for pointing one out?
    1980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This house that Seti built................ (Message 1767927)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will be the first to admit that my posting history is not without acerbity. It is the rare regular poster who does not flare up from time to time. The quickest "fix" to making the tone of the Cafe more pleasant is for posters to make a concerted effort to be as kind as possible as often as possible.


    Indeed. If you want to make it better, be part of the solution, not the problem.


    +1
    1981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This house that Seti built................ (Message 1767889)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I 100% agree with Mark, and James and I will add my 4C worth.

    The Seti boards have degenerated into nothing more than a social networking competitor to Facebook, and a magnet for the worlds waifs and strays, and the intellectually challenged. The majority of posters having no interest whatsoever in the Seti science which underpins it all. The truth is that the word has gone round that Seti is a soft touch.

    *Fed up with Facebook or Twitter, hey come to Seti, just as good to keep in touch with your mates, free PM system, and only means an hour or so a month to crunch for something you're not interested in.


    Besides TimeLord looking for a temporary way to contact a friend, what evidence do you have for this???

    Really, a bunch of the people that left here left in 2008 for reasons most of us know. Some never returned because, in the end, despite the sin of omission of a certain number, the others were found to be in the wrong. A large amount left because they too had been treated unfairly. Unfortunately, they also chose not to crunch along with leaving the fora. The moderation we see today is a result of evolution and is generally for the better. Those that left are largely on the social media sites you mentioned and are not coming back. This is all stuff you should know and understand.

    I see no evidence for people being drawn here due to "a message board being better than a social media site" nor for the "light moderation". Message boards, to them, are ridiculously archaic. Moderation by the people connected to (the general) you, let alone by site administrators, at a place like Facebook is virtually non-existent.

    I would never invite anyone here if I knew they had no interest in the search.

    *You want to bang your extreme (usually left wing) political drum, go to Politics where you can do so anonymously.


    Are you using a U.K. definition of "left"? I thought the US was thought of as being further right than the UK and much of the rest of the world. No?
    Or, is it that you've ignored a poster such as Guy (under his many GUYses), among others?

    Even the science threads have deteriorated, the one place where idiots and politics tended not to appear, not any more.


    Yes? Then please do elaborate on how this is the case. I daresay what you see as a cause for deteroriation is not what I would say is a cause and vice versa.
    1982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1767886)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sigh.... It would be nice if anyone would actually buy my CD :(

    Really difficult when you have to do everything yourself. The artistic side, the promotional side, the economic side,.. it's all for me.. *sob*


    Payday is next Monday! :)
    1983) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767846)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uh huh?
    1984) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767835)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe I have already made it abundantly clear I will not vote for Trump. Who I will vote for, though, is my own business.

    Sarge...

    Are you for anyone?

    I am not. Just a lesser of evils candidate.


    There is one I believe is ranking higher than others.

    My choice, in order (as of today).

    #1 - John Kasich... Centrist and successful Governor.

    #2 - Marco Rubio... But dropping fast.

    #3 - Bernie Sanders... With the proviso that the Congress is controlled by the Republicans.

    Never should be President (in order).

    #1 - Trump... #1 because he will be successful, in what he wishes to do.

    #2 - Cruz... Crazier and more Fanatical than Trump. #2 because he is incompetent.

    #3 - Hillary... Total Fraud and believes in nothing but Hillary.

    Dr. Carson... Smart, Intelligent, Ethical. Not a President nor Leader.


    I would need to read up more on Kasich and look for parts of debates where he's speaking. (I catch what I can, but sometimes I do not know which network, or am multi-tasking or am too darn tired by the time they air. I was up at 3:30 this morning and in the office at 6.)
    Plus, he's dropping fast after NH. As I am not registered with a party, I do not vote in caucuses/primaries.

    Rubio, not interested, but I'd have to do more reading and watching to explain. Could I be turned? Maybe, but in ways he seems too much like Cruz.

    Cruz, agreed and he would be aiming towards theocracy. (Even when still Christian, I would have been against that.)
    So would Carson (aim toward theocracy). Carson is smart about some things, but I question his intelligence in other areas.
    Have stated elsewhere that even if Benghazi and the e-mail thing weren't such issues, she's given us reason for pause before she even became a senator.
    1985) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767833)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder if Dr. Eric Korpela is getting a laugh out of this discussion. He's from Wisconsin too.


    Indeed, he is.
    1986) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767789)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe I have already made it abundantly clear I will not vote for Trump. Who I will vote for, though, is my own business.

    Sarge...

    Are you for anyone?

    I am not. Just a lesser of evils candidate.


    There is one I believe is ranking higher than others.
    1987) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767785)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Sarge are you going to vote for him ??

    Just because your educated doesn't mean to much as even educated men can chose the wrong person . I guess it all comes down to how much are you a "country Bumkin" as we say here , are you ! :)


    I believe I have already made it abundantly clear I will not vote for Trump. Who I will vote for, though, is my own business.
    1988) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767776)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see Glenn has not been to Wisconsin. LOL!


    No I haven't but I'm shore he lives out of the city in the country , mite be a small state but still there must be some farms and small towns there yes ?


    Has he told you he lives in the country?

    I would not call it small nor large. Look at a map. It's north south stretch is pretty big.

    It is a diverse state. It does include small towns and farms. At least nne such small town includes farms and a university.

    And, by the way, when it comes to "country boys", having grown up around farms in a town with 700-1400 people and much of my life in areas with 60000 or less ... .
    1989) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767771)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump is going to be our next president.

    Can we possibly get back to the thread?

    I see little possibility that he is not going to win.
    None.

    Yes, we little people are going to have our say, finally.

    And whether you like it or not, the man with an attitude is going to be president.

    I am voting for him.


    Get on the bandwagon, kitties.



    Trump is going to win, the die is quite cast.


    Little people do not get their way under fascism and we shall fight fascism in the hills, on the streets and in the air.
    1990) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1767770)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we possibly get back to the thread?


    I was on subject the pope named him . He's the Devil , Mark not even your kitties will be safe

    But I'm not surprised your gona vote for him thou , your in the middle of nowhere a country boy . Or as your man says the "uneducated I love the uneducated " sarcastic basta is all I can say about that one , but good luck you'll be stuck with him for 4 years


    I see Glenn has not been to Wisconsin. LOL!
    1991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1767749)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Horse to girl, Dude girl! You need a tictac!


    1st place winner is Lynn!
    2nd is STeven Meyer with the phone charger caption.
    3rd?
    1992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1767638)
    Posted 26 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Need at least 1 more!
    1993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1767545)
    Posted 25 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4 or 5 entries to go!
    1994) Message boards : Politics : "Apple, The FBI And iPhone Encryption: A Look At What's At Stake" (Message 1767374)
    Posted 25 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you're not doing anything illegal, why should anyone care if the government monitors everything you do online?

    Ask people in China, North Korea and Egypt that question. I'm sure you will get very informative answers, well, if you get candid answers.


    Wow. Does Guy need a reminder of that line from "V"?
    I hope he was just being sarcastic.
    Because that sure as h311 isn't what a constitutional conservatibe should say.
    1995) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1767373)
    Posted 25 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you care about my participation in the project or what's happening in my life?


    Make a claim, back it up. Nothing new about that.
    Maybe if you acted human you'd be treated as such more often.
    I'll wear you down. LOL!

    A constitutional conservative justice died... constitutional conservatives are considered fools in this forum...


    Each death diminishes us.
    You continue to misconstrue to flat out lie about what others think and feel, particularly those of us here.
    A constitutional conservative is not a fool unless he makes his or her points in ridiculous or downright hostile ways.

    According to many in here, elitists need to run this country ...

    We need a king; a king ...


    This is flat out projection and a blatant lie.
    If any of the candidates will be act like a king, it's TRUMP.
    Who's spoken out, here, in favor of him? msattler, maybe one other person and ... YOU!!

    Beware the WOLF in wolf's clothing.
    1996) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1767314)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This coming Thorsday will be the best! Thor has provided an unexpected gift. A person who desperately deserves it now has the word bail next to their name. thosrday is also my birthday


    Or is that Ba'al?
    (Happy Birthorsday!)
    1997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1767313)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1767302)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's judgement time...

    In third place, by a whisker, is Clyde with:

    "I didn't do it!

    It was the Poodle next door." Would that poodle's name be "Puddles", by any chance? ;-)

    in Second Place, by a head, is Gnu, with:

    "Catastrophe!!! As feline felon is finally cornered..." I take that to be "A feline felon"...

    And in FIRST PLACE, and the honor of next picture, goes to: [dramatic pause]
    SARGE with:

    "Another example of evolving cats; now they can stand!"

    My caption for the shot would'a been:

    Dude, your finger is bent — and I don't like where its pointing!

    PM goin' out after this missive is posted!


    Will look, for a new pic, during lunch!
    1999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1767301)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Buy my CD. All support is welcome.

    https://www.discogs.com/Rozz777rozz777-rOZZ-Songs-From-My-Seasick-Guitar/release/8157515


    Been working on the quality of some of my original songs, so I will announce when ready for sale. Not live. Working on studio quality sound via laptop! :)
    2000) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1767299)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My opinion (as I wait for my RAC to drop to ZERO) is this country's gone too far left

    What does your opinion of the direction of the country have to do with your participation in this project?


    That ... and ... how has his life, and the lives of those close to him, fundamentally changed.

    Lay it out there! Tell us, on a day-to-day basis, you've been impacted.
    2001) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1767298)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those wishing to disarm the State of Texas, raise your hand.
    Those wishing to disarm all citizens of the USA, raise your hand.


    There being no raised hands, the measure fails.

    Wasn't a relevant question to what was proposed, so no wonder there are no raised hands.

    The above two questions. Are what many Americans believe to be the real position of many proposing Sane Gun Regulations.

    And they are correct.


    Then, in a way, you've finally answered one of mt questions from a few months ago.
    You believe there's the left and right of the people and there's the left and right of the politicians.
    Yes? No?

    Speaking in general terms, with many, many, many exceptions.

    The Majority of the USA's Population are not Left/Right Wing.

    The Majority are Centrist (in American terms) . With some beliefs Right-of-Center, and others Left-of-Center.

    Generally... The Democrat Party was American Left-of-Center/Liberal. And the Republican Party American Right-of-Center/Conservative.

    They were not Ideological, in European Terms.

    Now... The Democrat Party appears to have been high jacked by their Left Wing. And the majority of Americans are reacting with switching their votes to the Republicans.

    The Republican Party has taken over most State Governorships. Most State Legislatures. The Federal House of Representatives, and The Senate. They are in position to claim the Presidency.

    Sarge...

    To understand American Political Culture. Study Franklin Roosevelt's 'New Deal' Democrat Coalition. Very successful for 40 years.

    It included the KKK, Blacks, Atheists, Religious Fanatics, Marxists, Unions, Capitalists, etc.


    It'd be more a matter of re-studying it, as it has been a long time.
    Though I am aware that the Religious Right became on the Right sometime between the '60s and '80s.
    2002) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1767183)
    Posted 24 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those wishing to disarm the State of Texas, raise your hand.
    Those wishing to disarm all citizens of the USA, raise your hand.


    There being no raised hands, the measure fails.

    Wasn't a relevant question to what was proposed, so no wonder there are no raised hands.

    The above two questions. Are what many Americans believe to be the real position of many proposing Sane Gun Regulations.

    And they are correct.


    Then, in a way, you've finally answered one of mt questions from a few months ago.
    You believe there's the left and right of the people and there's the left and right of the politicians.
    Yes? No?
    2003) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1766999)
    Posted 23 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Obama wants to be stubborn and nominate some Leftist, Progressive Democrat to the court, to go with the others he has nominated (and managed to get confirmed), this will be a huge rallying cry to the Republicans and if you think it will be limited to delays and 'no' votes, well... you ain't seen nothing yet...

    Don't believe me?

    Let me remind you that Fox News has been the highest rated basic cable network of all (and yes, not just the news networks but all of them) for the 4th consecutive week.


    1) You assume that people tuning in to FOX (or any other network) must agree with much or all that network has to say.

    2) You yourself have stated how technology has impacted. and is impacting, the job market. Along similar lines, why do you believe that TV ratings are in any way particularly indicative of the mood of the country when there's good evidence that large amounts of people are returning to print news? Only, this time, the print's online! (I sometimes learn of recent events HERE, in this forum.) If not print, but still video, what about the growing numbers of right and left wing pundits or skeptical independents on youtube and their thousands to millions of subscribers?

    3) By saying you assume, I'm not really in your mind. But, I'm basing it on the evidence of your post, in which you overlooked the evidence I have now brought forward.

    BTW, if FOX was/is such a good indicator, why did Sarah Palin's network close down? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=palin+network
    2004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766998)
    Posted 23 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Another example of evolving cats; now they can stand!"
    2005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766997)
    Posted 23 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Look how cute I am!"
    2006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766941)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, try this:


    funny pictures by Cuc cu cu, on Flickr

    This one isn't mine: It is copyrighted, all rights reserved by "Cuc Cu Cu"


    "Cat lives matter reacts to unethical questioning techniques."
    2007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1766927)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those into music from the 50s or 60s.
    This is a duet. I’m doing the higher part.
    The video itself is too dark and the person the camera was jumping around with it, so just listen! 


    And here’s another Julie vid, too! Show Me You.
    2008) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1766914)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those wishing to disarm the State of Texas, raise your hand.
    Those wishing to disarm all citizens of the USA, raise your hand.


    There being no raised hands, the measure fails.

    Wasn't a relevant question to what was proposed, so no wonder there are no raised hands.


    No kidding. :)
    2009) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1766913)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MajorKong...

    Good luck with your back-and-forth with bobby.

    I was burned once. Never again.


    "That boy ain't right..." -- Hank Hill re: Bobby Hill


    An ad hominem by MajorKong?
    Whatever has happened to the quality of his posts?
    By the way, unlike you, I believe it is the right that is more dangerous. Why? Theocracy. (That's one word more than the reason you gave in your recent post.)

    (Signed: a left-handed singing math prof. Sarge = fair and balanced.)
    2010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766908)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What you get when you comb your hair with razor-sharp claws...

    The dis-appearing act may be your browser purging it's file cache...


    Too tired to talk about runner-ups. This is the winner. About to send PM.


    Hopefully KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! received the PM?
    2011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766826)
    Posted 22 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What you get when you comb your hair with razor-sharp claws...

    The dis-appearing act may be your browser purging it's file cache...


    Too tired to talk about runner-ups. This is the winner. About to send PM.
    2012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766623)
    Posted 21 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4 captions to go!
    2013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766418)
    Posted 20 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Went to the link directly. It took me to a page with several photos. Only one of which is the one you want. Is it the first one on the page?

    http://fun-gallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Funny-Hugh-Jackman.jpg


    is the one indeed.
    2014) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1766384)
    Posted 20 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Send two 747's worth of illegal immigrants from Mexico

    Are there still illegal immigrants from Mexico? I thought after NAFTA they got better jobs by staying south of the border?

    In any case WWJD?


    Jeb(!), the Christian Science Monitor and others are saying it's net zero or below since around 2008-2009. Links wanted?
    2015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766382)
    Posted 20 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    And ... go!
    2016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1766342)
    Posted 19 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about this picture?
    I will prepare for the onslaught of criticism or boycott or possibly a letter bomb.



    "Future rap music star pushes the fashion sense another step further."
    2017) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765924)
    Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you really want a person like this as President. Donald Trump and the Central Park Five

    Trump want's that "America" should be great again.
    Putin want's that "Russia" should be great again.
    Is this not great?


    Let's let all countries be great! Together! We'll be equally awesome! :)
    2018) Message boards : Politics : "Apple, The FBI And iPhone Encryption: A Look At What's At Stake" (Message 1765923)
    Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... someone did a good job convincing a judge that looking through someone else's information served the public.


    Am I incorrect to say
    the (an) issue has not been "looking at someone's information"
    but "looking at someone's information without reasonable cause and without a warrant"?
    2019) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765921)
    Posted 18 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and will have access to pushing the red button.

    The 'nuclear football' isn't always near The President- whoever he/she is- though, right? So we rely more on the person that presents The Button to the President to decide to go ahead and get it ready; even if Trump is 'more likely' to push the button, things have to be bad for it to even be an option.


    Maybe I could look it up, but ... is the carrier Secret Service?
    2020) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1765850)
    Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I always believe a blog.

    Good for you :-)


    That's where your link is from.
    2021) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1765810)
    Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I always believe a blog.
    2022) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765751)
    Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm

    Interesting read. TY

    Comments?

    Looks to support what Gary says, certainly does not appear to contradict it. If women are chattel, then it matters not when life begins, the decision to abort is not one an incubator is qualified to make.

    CLYDE's earlier objection to this idea, seconded by Darwin's Worm, "Not the foundation of Anti-Abortion beliefs, in the USA" doesn't really tell us anything other than CLYDE believes Es to be wrong, might be more useful to know why he believes Es to be wrong. I suspect the foundation for most US Anti-Abortion beliefs is religious and predominantly Christian (note, "most" and "predominantly", not "all" and "exclusively"), based on biblical doctrine. As your link shows, there's little in the bible about the value of a fetus (though there's a fair amount about women as property).


    If it is the same link I found before, when discussing this with someone else on another site, then it said little about women, more about the child. Some verses for and against, but primarily indicating the ancient Jews believed abortion could be ok and that an unborn child was officially human not until birth.

    Did I give the wrong link?
    2023) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765562)
    Posted 17 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm

    Interesting read. TY

    Comments?
    2024) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765537)
    Posted 16 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm
    2025) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1765233)
    Posted 15 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The99OneSaid:
    Perhaps she and the doctor she trusts should be the decider.


    Exactly as I Said. And 'It' 'Is' Legal. In The U S A.

    Don't Think So?

    Yep

    Its not illegal in Canada, there are no abortion laws at all here. The laws aren't necessary and haven't been shown to be necessary. No politician here will touch it.

    So the only reason a US politician will do so is because they don't think women are capable of making these decisions for themselves.


    Or, they think they will also burn in hell for allowing someone to choose differently than they would, as instructed by their Bible. Except ... .
    2026) Message boards : Politics : RIP Antonin Scalia (Message 1765080)
    Posted 15 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1

    +2.

    Elitists.

    Those presently controlling Western Media, Education, Political Structures, et al.
    2027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1764689)
    Posted 13 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "'Tell me Winston, how many copies do you see?'

    'I see three copies. I wish I could see more, but I only see three.'"
    2028) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : LIGO detected gravitational waves at last! (Message 1764515)
    Posted 13 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I call Poe's Law.


    Read some of the posts from the last few weeks to last few months to realize this characterization is not entirely accurate.

    Back to topic?
    2029) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : LIGO detected gravitational waves at last! (Message 1764514)
    Posted 13 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Theory never leads to practical things!!!

    Of course not:)
    But seriously we humans would be back in the stone age if we didn't know how to utilize knowledge.


    Glad you understood, Janne. There are several examples of theoretical results that either immediately yielded practical results. Others could take 1-2 centuries. But it does happen.
    2030) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1764400)
    Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A vote for the guy 2nd from the left



    will lead to



    Well, for at least the next 75 years.
    2031) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1764391)
    Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thing that is funny, eh?

    Trump is kickin' butt and takin' names.

    Many more pre-election votes, but I assure you........
    Trump is in this for the long haul, and I also assure you that.........

    A lot of muck is gonna be tossed, that is the way political thingys are.

    But personally I believe that Trump is gonna be our next president.

    And I welcome whatever he leaves in his wake,
    Because there has never been a shakeup like this in the country before.

    And it has ALL of the old school boyz shakin' in his boots.

    It is about time.

    He has the polls. He has the money (his, of course) to see this through.

    I am going to say here, on point.......

    He is going to be our next president.


    Lunatic Fringe ... we can see you coming ... we won't let you kill the laughter.

    (By Tom Cochrane, Red Rider/)

    Sarge...

    This dismissal of these people has, is, and will always be, dangerous.

    When a population is fearful for their future, and the Elitist's and Establishment's dismiss them as a Lunatic Fringe:

    Many times in History, a 'Leader' emerges. Saying "Trust me". "I will make you great again". "I will destroy those destroying you".

    Very powerful argument.

    Dismiss at your own peril.


    You know I am not dismissing it.
    IIRC, Tom Cochrane had a Jewish girlfriend at the time he wrote the song Lunatic Fringe. Surely, in the early 80s or so, he was reiterating "Never Again".
    I want people to tell me their "real concerns".
    Persecution for being Christian? Compare what is so-called persecution happening here to the no-questions-is-persecution of Christians in Muslim nations, particularly in Africa.
    I want them to tell me how Obama has really fundamentally changed this nation by telling me how their lives, day-to-day, have been fundamentally impacted.
    In the meantime, I will heed the call of Tom Cochrane, and the Founding Fathers, and remain eternally vigilant ... not eternally paranoid.
    The supporters of Trump could very well be inviting in that which they fear most (what Cochrane sang against and we said "Never Again" to).
    Some cannot tell the difference between communism and socialism.
    Some cannot tell the difference between communism and fascism (focusing only on the totalitarianism).
    Extreme right-wing TV and radio pundits have worked hard to make it so people do not remember the differences anymore.
    You and I know which way Trump could very well take things.
    So, please don't regard my post as dismissive. Not everyone can make every post clear when they have other things to do, so they elaborate a little later.
    Speak out clearly, Clyde, with your knowledge of history and cogent observations of current events, to those supporting Trump. You yourself have called Trump dangerous on several occasions.
    2032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1764344)
    Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another cover of "Sounds of Silence".
    2033) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1764331)
    Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thing that is funny, eh?

    Trump is kickin' butt and takin' names.

    Many more pre-election votes, but I assure you........
    Trump is in this for the long haul, and I also assure you that.........

    A lot of muck is gonna be tossed, that is the way political thingys are.

    But personally I believe that Trump is gonna be our next president.

    And I welcome whatever he leaves in his wake,
    Because there has never been a shakeup like this in the country before.

    And it has ALL of the old school boyz shakin' in his boots.

    It is about time.

    He has the polls. He has the money (his, of course) to see this through.

    I am going to say here, on point.......

    He is going to be our next president.


    Lunatic Fringe ... we can see you coming ... we won't let you kill the laughter.

    (By Tom Cochrane, Red Rider/)
    2034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1764226)
    Posted 12 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “Sounds of Silence” (acoustic, open mic)

    Click the pic to hear it!
    2035) Message boards : Politics : George Bush and the National Guard (Message 1764091)
    Posted 11 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Other than being a lesson in power what difference does it make now?


    It could be another attempt to link Jeb to his brother and poison the well.


    Any evidence to suggest this has happened (or was a motive for making the movie)?


    Just hypothesizing. As I said, one might be better served looking at Jeb's own record in Florida.
    2036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763841)
    Posted 10 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Julie performs The Mercy Seat.
    2037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763659)
    Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With her permission, here is Julie performing her original A Reasonable Reason (Aka The Pirate Song).
    2038) Message boards : Politics : George Bush and the National Guard (Message 1763587)
    Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Other than being a lesson in power what difference does it make now?


    It could be another attempt to link Jeb to his brother and poison the well.
    The problem is, Jeb has a record as a governor of Florida that would be better examined, with its weakness and ... presumably, strengths. (An example of a weakness: the idea of publicly shaming unwed mothers.)

    (Fair and balanced: Hillary was against baking cookies and standing by her man until she was for it.)
    2039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763585)
    Posted 9 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those in the 30s-40s age range, mostly, particularly if you liked the music coming out of Seattle 1991-1995.
    2040) Message boards : Politics : George Bush and the National Guard (Message 1763559)
    Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are the Democrats still so unwilling to own their own mistakes that they are still trying to blame everything bad that happens on Bush??? The Democrats desperately need a new game plan. Their 'Blame Bush' playbook is a little... stale.


    I call straw man. What, other than the events around the reporting of George W. Bush's National Guard record, is being blamed on anyone in Rather's book? Does Dan Rather speak on behalf of the Democrats? Have Democrats used the book as a reason to blame "everything bad that happens" on Bush?


    My two cents: a decent movie and a decent book take time. MajorKong indicates Rather had generally been a good investigative journalist, right? When did his book come out? When did the movie come out? If recently, no wonder Gordon asked. Otherwise, I agree with "Why bring it up now?"
    2041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763354)
    Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yet another genre.
    2042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763326)
    Posted 8 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am really hoping we'll get at least 2 or 3 others from our community (I know some others perform) posting here.

    Also, I have some acoustic open mic recordings from 9 and 10 years ago.

    In the meantime, for something completely different from my last performance posted: click the pic to go to the vid at tinypic. (Was just recovering from a sore throat that lasted 8 days when this was recorded. Still, I think this one came out well.)

    2043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763155)
    Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear Es99 has been known to play the piano ... ?
    2044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now back to "The Live Performance Thread!" (Message 1763016)
    Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you have a video of yourself performing a song? Care to share it here?

    Sarge covering "Policy of Truth" by Depeche Mode.

    Does it have to be music? I suppose it not. Do you do stand-up comedy, for example?
    2045) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1763008)
    Posted 7 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm aware of the death penalty for apostasy.
    How do they do tracking down their apostates?
    And how does Daesh do at tracking down its deserters?
    2046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Whatcha Watching? (Message 1762701)
    Posted 6 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops! I thought this was the whatcha wearing thread. Oh, well, don't know where to.
    2047) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1762564)
    Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are rumors the IS killed a 22 year old Belgian Muslima, accusing her of witchcraft. I couldn't find an English article on the internet. The Belgian government is investigating the case.
    http://www.knack.be/nieuws/wereld/belgische-vrouw-in-syrie-onthoofd-door-is-federaal-parket-informeert-zich/article-normal-655357.html

    Here is an article in English.
    http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/5030/a-belgian-decapitated-for-sorcery-by-the-islamic-state
    Doesn't say much but I wonder why so many European muslims join Daesh.
    Regreting and leaving/deserting Daesh means death penalty and often decaptition.


    How well does Daesh do with tracking a particular individual not already held captive?
    2048) Message boards : Politics : Mood of the US population (Message 1762543)
    Posted 5 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does the current title apply to the thread subject?
    Maybe.
    My two cents. I try not to use any of those terms at all. Many of my neighbors and students where I now am would meet the "requirements" of at least one of those designations.
    I deal with them as individuals and call them by their first names.
    Not too long ago, I mentioned that I was once mistaken for a Mexican in the past 6.5 years ... by a Mexican! He wanted me to sing Feliz Navidad with him for karaoke. (His name was Sergio or something close to that. Of course, at karaoke, as in many places, I go by what I go by here, Sarge.)
    I am 75% English/Irish and 25% German. All I can think of is perhaps my German ancestors were from southern Germany, close to Austria and therefore close to Italy.
    2049) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Election -- Iowa caucuses (Message 1762086)
    Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You don't believe that the (non-Fox, at least) mainstream news media is pro-Clinton? Look at this:

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/02/bernie-sanders-iowa-caucus-loss-response-nr.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/

    The video title:

    Sanders: Last night we began the political revolution


    Look closely at the caption...

    The last line...


    Sen. Bernie Sanders | (R) Presidential Candidate


    CNN is calling Sanders a Republican... ROFLMAO

    I looked very closely. My screen does not say what your screen does. I'd suggest you do a virus and spyware scan.
    Mine says:
    Democratic candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders speaks at a rally in New Hampshire after a razor-thin loss to Hillary Clinton in Iowa.

    That is indeed what it says under the video image, though when playing the video the text on the video says:

    2016 RACE
    SANDERS RALLIES IN N.H. AFTER RAZOR-THIN IOWA RACE
    Sen. Bernie Sanders | (R) Presidential Candidate

    Naturally this is part of the undeniably pro Clinton liberal media's attempt to portray her opponent in an unflattering light, rather than an error, the kind of which happens every day on TV.

    Oh, graphic on video, NOT CAPTION UNDER VIDEO!

    I'm sure some now unemployed onscreen graphics person who was operating on zero hours sleep and 200 cups of coffee. Just like the live closed caption typists. Never make an typo or spelling mistake. Perfect dictation.


    Was that deliberrate? :)
    2050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1762030)
    Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heavy Metal band Disturbed recently did a cover of their song The Sound of Silence

    It's not very often that a cover is better than original.
    This one is.
    It's not the first time that a singer-songwriter song are interpreted by a rockband.
    Jimi Hendrix did a cover of Bob Dylan's All Along the Watchtower.
    I think I read somewhere that Bob thinks Jimi's version is better:)


    Hear is another reworking of it by Bear McCreary. Adds an element of suspense to it.
    2051) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Election -- Iowa caucuses (Message 1762028)
    Posted 4 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of errors on TV, I've caught a few during local news broadcasts, such as misspellings. One happened yesterday morning, in the "ribbon" at the bottom of the screen, reporting cancellations and delays due to snow. I can't remember the exact word/phrase, but here is something similar. See if you catch it.

    "Rreview your text messages to see if you must report for work."

    Guess they have an agenda?

    To deny any agenda at all? Naive. To suspect it at every turn? Perhaps a bit paranoid? Should we revive KM's "Myths & Conspiracies" thread series?
    2052) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Election -- Iowa caucuses (Message 1762007)
    Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I have that right?

    Looks like that is what is being said to me .....

    (Deliberate misread) Yes, Bobby, you have the liberty to say that to Gary.
    (We now you return you to our regularly scheduled serious conversation.)
    2053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1761990)
    Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Who is the fairest kitty, of them all?"
    2054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1761979)
    Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Picture bump, with entry........
    ".....are you look'n at me?,,,,,ARE YOU, LOOK'N AT ME?"



    "I do solemnly swear, to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ... even to myself ... and I will e-mail this truth to myself ... @ ... my server."
    2055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ad slogans and jingles (Message 1761953)
    Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No ad has made me change my car insurance.
    I use ads for social media fodder: i.e., I post their quotes and see if my friends like my post. Given the insane amount of money they put in to making the ads and putting them on the air, I must be "white trash" to them because I do not consume nearly as much of their crap as they'd like.
    2056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1761951)
    Posted 3 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the link Mark. I have heard that song before. Just never really ever paid attention to the words that close before.
    That is a very lonely song. Reminds me of Harry Chapins Taxi.I would add a link. But as this is OzzFans thread I don't want to go off topic.
    I think most of us can relate to being that alone at times in our life.


    S&G's "I Am a Rock" is about choosing to self-isolate: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=simon+%26+garfunkel+i+am+a+rock+.
    2057) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Election -- Iowa caucuses (Message 1761689)
    Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note: There were some irregularities:

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

    Clinton won ALL 6 of the coin tosses....

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/gamblers-take-note-the-odds-in-a-coin-flip-arent-quite-5050-145465423/?no-ist


    Even still, if they were, P(6 heads in a row) = 1 / 64 (odds, 63 to 1 against). Those aren't bad odds. And I doubt empirically it'd be very much different.

    Note: this is not support of Clinton.

    The idea of letting it come down to a coin toss is at least mildly annoying.


    Put another way: I'm not a gambler. In a certain sense, 63 to 1 against is bad. But, given the Law of Large numbers, one could expect with many applications under the same conditions the number of times the event would occur out of how many trials were performed would reduce to roughly 1 / 64. Compared to many other things considered, this is far from improbable.
    2058) Message boards : Politics : US Presidential Election -- Iowa caucuses (Message 1761658)
    Posted 2 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note: There were some irregularities:

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

    Clinton won ALL 6 of the coin tosses....

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/gamblers-take-note-the-odds-in-a-coin-flip-arent-quite-5050-145465423/?no-ist


    Even still, if they were, P(6 heads in a row) = 1 / 64 (odds, 63 to 1 against). Those aren't bad odds. And I doubt empirically it'd be very much different.

    Note: this is not support of Clinton.

    The idea of letting it come down to a coin toss is at least mildly annoying.
    2059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1761339)
    Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After a night of drunken bar hopping you wake up in bed and find…



    (Based on the stuff above the door knob) "I put 'Do not Disturb', not 'Maid Service Required'!"

    And thanks for joining in, Clyde!
    2060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1761146)
    Posted 31 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PM sent?
    2061) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1760533)
    Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You clowns laugh loud and long at yourselves now.
    I'll check back in here a year from now and have the last laugh at ya.

    The very fact of his multiple bankruptcies shows he is reckless and and the contracts he signed show his word is proven to be worthless, the man lacks integrity.

    Nothing like Obama then? LOL, reread what you just posted.

    I would not buy a used car from that man or anything else for that manner, he has proven to be a self-serving robber baron and should be shunned by those who believe in integrity regardless of what you think about Obama.


    With Mark, as many, it is tit-for-tat. That argument won't work with him,
    2062) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1760526)
    Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You clowns laugh loud and long at yourselves now.
    I'll check back in here a year from now and have the last laugh at ya.


    I'm not laughing.
    He has a reasonable chance.
    If he wins, it will probably be time to cry.
    You haven't seen anything if you think the USA has "fundamentally changed".
    Dark times may very well lie ahead if Trump wins. Very dark.
    Do you suppose your support of him now will protect you?
    May we all survive if Trump wins.
    2063) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1760458)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sophistry!
    2064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1760453)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry.

    First busy. Then problems with Seti.

    Here is my try...



    "Does my butt look big in this robe?"


    "You are the wind ... beneath my robes."


    "Happy Birthday ... Mr. President."
    2065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1760452)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry.

    First busy. Then problems with Seti.

    Here is my try...



    "Does my butt look big in this robe?"


    "You are the wind ... beneath my robes."
    2066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1760451)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry.

    First busy. Then problems with Seti.

    Here is my try...



    "Does my butt look big in this robe?"
    2067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1760365)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... then slowly getting angrier at the inability to help change the world around him, before finally settling into acceptance of the sound of silence.

    Thinking more about it, even S&G got kind of loud in that one part, although I would not want to call them "angry."


    Agreed. I listened to the original, and as beautiful as it was, it was missing that passion this version brings to the song. You said in a prior post that this wasn't necessarily one of your favorite S&G songs to begin with, and that's probably true for others as well. I don't think this was one of their more popular songs. Certainly not as popular as, say, Mrs. Robinson or Bridge over Troubled Water. In my humble opinion, the ability of a band like Disturbed to be able to bring this song to life almost 50 years later, really says something about not only the masterful songwriting, but to put the right spin on the performance of the song itself to make something old beautiful and new again.

    The S&G song that I thought might do with a similar makeover is The Boxer,

    In the clearing stands a boxer
    And a fighter by his trade
    And he carries the remainders
    Of every glove that laid him down
    And cut him till he cried out
    In his anger and his shame
    “I am leaving, I am leaving”
    But the fighter still remains


    On volume, I tested it yesterday at full wick with 200W + 200W rms, with 12" base speakers.


    I cover that song (though less often) and have also occasionally done "I am a Rock" which is the main song by S&G that I thought deserved a hard rock/metal cover. Not just because of the word "rock" in the title/choruses, either. :)
    2068) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1760363)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL....Trump stepped aside to let his challengers tear each other and the opposing party up.

    He's well in the lead and does not need the crapfest.

    Now, tell we who is being shrewd...LOL.

    He is.

    I agree.
    Now, if this thread could somehow be limited to discussion about Trump and not the backbiting BS between political thread rivals.............
    This is supposed to be about Trump being a viable candidate for our next president, not about your personal infighting.

    Let's get back to the thread topic, please.
    And stay on it, if we could.


    Trump is shrewd. But I do not believe he is a good candidate. I believe Clyde and I am some others have given good reasons as to why he is not. Viability is not the same.
    2069) Message boards : Politics : Housing, 2002-2005 (Message 1760361)
    Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I get time, I'll explain later today why I was asking. Otherwise, I should get to it tomorrow.
    2070) Message boards : Politics : North Korea. (Message 1759906)
    Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    North Korea is preparing to launch a long-range missile as early as next week, according to a Japanese news agency.

    Kyodo cited an unnamed Japanese government official, who said there were signs of possible preparations for a missile launched based on analysis of satellite imagery of the North's Tongchang-ri missile test site.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1631036/north-korea-preparing-to-launch-missile

    In the news..

    Assuming China's Leadership is Intelligent and Sane:

    Are they really comfortable with a Nuclear Armed and Missile Capable, North Korea?

    If not...

    Can China and the West, come to some sort of understanding, agreement, and 'solution'?


    IIRC, and if reporting is truthful, no, they're not comfortable with it.
    As to the last sentence, I have no idea.
    2071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1759899)
    Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ Sarge - I'll have to check out Scaborough Fair. Never heard of them before. I do have to respectfully disagree with you on the song though. I'm thoroughly impressed and don't think it could have been any better than it currently is. I haven't been emotionally touched by a song like this in quite some time. This was truly amazing, IMHO.

    Scarborough Fair is a song, the proper name of the song better know by its repeated words parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. The performers Sarge linked to are Queensryche, which I've heard of but never been interested in or listened to before this moment. I'm less impressed with this than with the other one. (But SF was never one of my favorite S&G songs anyway.)


    Hopefully Ozzfan will see this as part of a larger discussion spawned by his original post rather than steering it too far away ... .

    Here is a version the vocalist Geoff Tate did with another band before he joined QR: Myth: Scarborough Fair. (Warnings (bad pun, for QR fans): poor recording quality and Geoff stays in the high range the whole time).)

    More later, (comments & links) if ok with Ozzfan?

    Anyway, "Sounds of Silence" allows for more emotion than "Scarborough Fair", anyway, simply by the topics. Also, wasn't "Scarborough Fair" covered by S&G; isn't it a song that is several hundred years old (or at least the melody, if not the words)?
    2072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Accounts... (Message 1759892)
    Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just tested on my parents' computer. The person I need to talk to privately can create an Account here without installing BOINC - for now.

    Maybe later, they will end up installing BOINC and participating in crunching... Don't know, yet.


    TL


    I think that ability is a bad idea and I wonder why you didn't go with Skype or many other similar options?
    2073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1759812)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heavy Metal band Disturbed recently did a cover of their song The Sound of Silence, and I'm completely blown away by lead singer David Draiman's versatility in this song. Giving up his distinctive rough "demon" voice for some amazing vocal work at the beginning... like a sad and haunting remembrance of depressing childhood memories... then slowly getting angrier at the inability to help change the world around him, before finally settling into acceptance of the sound of silence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

    This is obviously going to have limited appeal since metal very popular among this crowd, but give it a listen if you want to. It has a certain beauty to it that I thought I'd share.


    It's good, but could be better, knowing somewhat his voice.

    Sounds like what I do when I perform "Hurt". Somewhat like Johnny Cash (the coverer) on the first verse/chorus then a bit like NIN on the remainder. (For those who do not know, hear my words, I'll teach you: Cash did NOT write "Hurt". He still kicked butt, though.)
    2074) Message boards : Politics : Housing, 2002-2005 (Message 1759810)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I recall the big game during that era was to form a corporation,
    get a lot of loans, cut big paychecks to yourself and friends,
    and then the corporation went bankrupt...

    Leaving things unfinished and tied up in legal red tape.

    Around here it was usually housing developments with only a few homes
    actually built. Roads and utilities to vacant lots.

    So.. what is the question?


    The point will be reached. The question is, where you live, did you see much built then go unoccupied at least 6 months to a year?

    For the moment, I am looking for answers:

    (1) Yes, I saw this occur.
    (2) No, I did not see it, but I wasn't really looking for it.
    (3) No. (As betreger said, in his area, demand was high.)

    In NYC real estate is, umm, weird. I didn't notice anything special about the years 2002-2005, and I can't say I've noticed any residential buildings (or indeed office space) go unoccupied for any great length of time over the 17 years I've lived here.


    Makes sense for the NYC area. It was pretty filled up far earlier.
    Anybody else with observations, perhaps particularly if you were living in area not already very highly populated to begin with in 2000-2002?
    2075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Never knew Simon & Garfunkel were so talented (Message 1759792)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was also raised on S&G and didn't start listening to rock until 1983, then metal wshortly thereafter.

    My own former favorite (progressive?) ,etal band covered Scarborough Fair long ago.

    I will have to listen to Ozzfan's post later in the day.
    2076) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1759777)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To whom are you responding?

    The "in response to" link (above the message) takes me to a post by Gary Charpentier, if that helps.


    I overlooked that. Thanks. I fail to see, still, why people would choose quote instead of reply, then remove the quoted portion.
    2077) Message boards : Politics : Housing, 2002-2005 (Message 1759757)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I recall the big game during that era was to form a corporation,
    get a lot of loans, cut big paychecks to yourself and friends,
    and then the corporation went bankrupt...

    Leaving things unfinished and tied up in legal red tape.

    Around here it was usually housing developments with only a few homes
    actually built. Roads and utilities to vacant lots.

    So.. what is the question?


    The point will be reached. The question is, where you live, did you see much built then go unoccupied at least 6 months to a year?

    For the moment, I am looking for answers:

    (1) Yes, I saw this occur.
    (2) No, I did not see it, but I wasn't really looking for it.
    (3) No. (As betreger said, in his area, demand was high.)
    2078) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1759748)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Twisting what is actually being said to you does not do you or your argument any credit. You obviously don't cope well with viewpoints that conflict with your own so I suppose gun ownership must help you with that in some way.

    And FWIW: mental health services = "crazy control" doesn't improve a great deal on the Abrahamic view: illness = sin. Odd you can't see that for yourself.


    To whom are you responding?
    2079) Message boards : Politics : Housing, 2002-2005 (Message 1759746)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    16 views in 1 hours and no answers. I am asking for a serious reason. Please respond.
    2080) Message boards : Politics : Housing, 2002-2005 (Message 1759731)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I recall, between roughly 2002 and 2005, seeing several houses and apartment buildings being built. I saw many sit empty for at least a good half year to a year.

    Did anybody else see this happening?

    If you didn't, please be honest:

    Were you not watching for such a thing?
    How do you rate your memory?

    Might it have happened in some areas but not where you lived?

    Or is it my memory that might be faulty?
    Please, speak up. What do each of you recall?
    2081) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1759729)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't you know that being a nerd is cool? They wear t-shirts advertising it.


    False advertising.
    These days it is bad or maybe even worse. There are now sub-cultures of nerd-dom. To them, geek and nerd do not mean the same thing. In the 90s, they were synonymous.
    2082) Message boards : Politics : North Korea. (Message 1759728)
    Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If so... How?

    Send them back to god and let him sort them out?

    Just so you know, Gary, it's this type of response that brings out Clyde's abbreviation "SLDM" for you.
    2083) Message boards : Politics : Another example of USA Gun Laws (or lack of...)? (Message 1759503)
    Posted 26 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You do know that mercury is not kept in schools any more? Nor are nitric acid of a strong molarity. I'd be interested to see how you could get hold of the materials.
    Wow another precondition. They have to make it at school from school materials. Your head is buried so deep in the sand your feet aren't visible anymore.

    ALL/some ask yourself, is it the popular kid or the bullied science geek who is likely to explode in rage?


    Removing "likely", we do find examples sin recent history where it's been the popular kid that did. Sorry, I do not remember the name and location right off the top of my head.
    2084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The X-Files ***Spoiler Alert*** (Message 1759305)
    Posted 26 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone told me a 2nd episode is on tonight.

    The X-Files
    Founder's Mutation (Season 10 | Episode 2)


    Yeppers, it's a two-night premiere event, so there is another new episode tonight at 8pm on Fox.

    In reference to last night's episode, the stupid football post game show ran about a half hour into the X-Files start time, but Fox did broadcast the entire episode from the beginning when the football crap was done.

    If you had your DVR setup than you missed the last half hour of that episode due to the late start time. It should be On Demand here in a day or two, but it doesn't look like they are showing re-runs of season 10 on normal TV (at least, it's not listed when I do a search).

    You can go to Fox.com and pick up last night's episode. Through your Internet's assigned IP Address; Fox.com picks up your provider, (U-Verse in my case), and allowed me to view Full Episodes' List and there you will find "My Struggle", last night's episode. :-)


    TL


    I do not like the (re-)premiere title.
    2085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1759254)
    Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Given that the servers were off-air for a large chunk of the last 24 hours, and you've sent him some instructions it might be worth hanging on for a bit longer, just in case he's struggling with the shock of winning sch a prestigious competition.


    Hence the "may" need. :) I'm sure we'll survive however things play out. :)
    2086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1759246)
    Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge from the rules:

    The winner of the round has 24 hours to post another picture to be captioned; if no picture within the 24 hours, (or notice posted by the winner that he/she is looking...) then second place is up, who also has 24 hours...


    I have just PMd Jaundiced that this may need to fall to him as it has been about 24 hours.
    2087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1759201)
    Posted 25 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CLYDE has been given a PM tutorial regarding how to post an image. I suggest we wait a few more hours, at least, to see if he finds something funny to post.

    If not, I do have a plan for where to go from there.
    2088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy New Year From Our Home To Yours (Message 1759089)
    Posted 24 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has become an enjoyable January tradition for me to review photos we took last year and then share a few of them with you.

    As always, the photos come along with snippets of wisdom from various members of the Korpela family.




    Angela advises that wherever you travel, you do your best to converse with the locals.




    Dain would like to remind you that it is impolite to look down upon others.
    (Unless of course they are mice and you are planning to eat them for dinner.)




    Stinky Lou suspects that thinking outside of the box may be over-rated...




    ...and Eva concurs.




    Spawnie suggests that if you are about to get upset about something, lie down and take a nap.
    The feeling will pass.





    Purvis reminds you to always be grateful to those who welcome you home...
    no matter what kind of a stink you've gotten yourself into this time!





    Eric says, "They're out there... keep crunching."



    Happy New Year, from our home to yours.


    Excellent!
    2089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1759069)
    Posted 24 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The winner ia: CLYDE, with "Ok... The truth... Who's better. Me, or Sinatra?"

    2nd place goes to Jaundiced Eye, with "Wow, I can't believe we BOTH got Mr Microphones for Christmas!"

    3rd place is a 3 way tie: Carlos with "Broadcasting live from Central Park.
    The other Central Park",
    Chris S with "I'm a Marble Thinker
    No you're not
    Yes I am
    No you're not
    Yes I am",
    and Carlos again with "Sarge: So, do you have seti@home installed on that computer?
    Otherguy: seti what?"

    (He knows what SETI is, but still hasn't installed it apparently.)

    PM being sent.
    2090) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1758883)
    Posted 24 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We are not amused.
    2091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1758868)
    Posted 24 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since there were not 10 entries in the first 24 hours, I wait a second 24 hours?
    2092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1758759)
    Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Perhaps even pictures of ourselves are funny? (Or can be re-perceived as funny?) Try to caption THIS?


    We need at least one more caption!
    2093) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1758521)
    Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please re-read it, very very carefully.


    I see she says she can't endorse someone like Trump, but like I said, I think her tune would change if offered the VP job.

    What am I missing?

    - Things Sarah Palin never said.


    That's part of it.
    It is a re-wording of her very own stump speech for Trump. But, I replaced her references to her son and PTSD from his time as a soldier with McCain's time as a POW. That McCain brought her into the limelight and now she endorses Trump after Trump said POWs were not among the true heroes of our vets defies reason.
    2094) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1758439)
    Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PLEASE tell me that you got more out of that than just how it replicates her rambling.


    She may have said that, but when it comes right down to it, if the possible job of VP is open, I think she will take it.

    If someone was running for president who I didn't agree completely with, I would still probably consider the VP position if it was offered.


    Please re-read it, very very carefully.
    2095) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1758426)
    Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    - Things Sarah Palin never said.


    Yes, she rambles, and all politicians obfuscate, but it still wouldn't surprise me if she becomes Trumps' running mate.


    PLEASE tell me that you got more out of that than just how it replicates her rambling.
    2096) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1758410)
    Posted 23 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I can talk personally about this. I guess it's kind of the elephant in the room. Because my own extended political family, going through what we went through back in the 1970s with my former running mate ... having served ... fighting for you all, America, in the Vietnamese war zone ... . But Senator McCain, like so many others ... . Some don't come back. Some die. Some are captured and are never released. Some come back a bit different. Some are amputees. Some, like my former running mate, John McCain, can't lift his arms through the entire range of normal motion. They come back wondering if there's that respect. And that starts from the top! And that's a shame that our former military personnel even have to wonder if they're respected anymore. So. when my own former running mate, John McCain, went through what he went through, coming back, I can certainly relate with other former POWs and American in general when I heard what Donald J. Trump said about him! Trump said McCain was not a hero and 'I like people who weren't captured'. And it makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never, for the sake of America's finest, that we will have that Commander in Chief who will who will respect them and honor them! That is why, logically and in all good conscience, I *cannot* endorse Donald J. Trump as a candidate for President of the United States of America!!!"

    - Things Sarah Palin never said.
    2097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1758289)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Perhaps even pictures of ourselves are funny? (Or can be re-perceived as funny?) Try to caption THIS?
    2098) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1758262)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"


    Woosh. Woosh.
    2099) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1758261)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My new philosophy is that Philosophy is rubbish. What say you?
    2100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1758259)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "At best, one million years, and we cats will have both opposable thumbs and color vision. Then? Look out!"
    2101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1758258)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks rob!

    Let's try this, Caption friends.



    "I'll bet the Human I adopted is glad I do not have opposable thumbs!"


    "I'll plug them back in correctly when you pay me ... one ... millllllion dollars ... and introduce me to Mr. Bigglesworth."
    2102) Message boards : Politics : The state of the global economy (Message 1758021)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Well no, anybody paying attention sees clearly that he's a tyrannical dictator.

    Says the poster who claimed there are no toll roads in Texas and the US has the best economy in the world even though UNESCO stated that the US ranks second highest among all measured countries, with 23.1 per cent of children living in poverty, just under Romania's 25.6 per cent.
    Guy why don't you get data not just voice paranoid opinions?


    1) Why don't you show me someplace you can't go because of a toll road and

    2) Try living *anywhere* outside the U.S. and then tell me you're staying because it's better.


    A blank name again.
    Awww, how sweet.
    2103) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Latest nonsense (Message 1758000)
    Posted 22 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doh, yes we know that Janne. The point is that passengers don't travel up and down the aircraft, they travel WITH it. Do try to keep up at the back there.

    I have never seen passengers travel up and down an aircraft.
    Whats matter is how a passenger percive speed.
    If it's in a tube or an aircraft doesn't matter.

    If Elon Musk thinks it will work, it will work.
    I find it queer that the op would start a thread in science by bashing right from the start.
    Seems like someone is trying to turn the science forum into a politics forum he's self-exiled from.


    You down with O.P.P.?
    Yeah, you know me.
    2104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1757859)
    Posted 21 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I'll show my Human what happens when it ignores me-ow!"
    2105) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Researchers find evidence of a real ninth planet (Message 1757763)
    Posted 21 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I seem to remember one of the conditions was that to be called a planet an object has to have cleared it's orbital path


    Wikipedia wrote:
    cleared its neighborhood

    Definition Of A Planet


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_planet#Clearing_the_neighbourhood

    Why not point particularly to this point?

    Anyway, seems to me calling "clearing the neighborhood" vague, when what is described as other things being attracted (such as moons), might be a false dichotomy. Why call a moon debris?
    2106) Message boards : Politics : Ebola and Infectious diseases #3 (Message 1757762)
    Posted 21 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't expect the recent good news regarding Ebola would mean "Wi[ted out everywhere forever", but such a quick rollback is disheartening.

    Can we blame Obama?
    ISIS?
    Misfit?
    2107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #63 (Message 1757727)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks rob!

    Let's try this, Caption friends.



    "I'll bet the Human I adopted is glad I do not have opposable thumbs!"
    2108) Message boards : Politics : The state of the global economy (Message 1757707)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    welfare make approximately $60,000 in free stuff annually

    Frank where did you pull that from?

    LOL! From government website data, right, Frank? Link us up! ;)
    2109) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Researchers find evidence of a real ninth planet (Message 1757701)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Researchers find evidence of a real ninth planet

    "Caltech researchers have found evidence of a giant planet tracing a bizarre, highly elongated orbit in the outer solar system. The object, which the researchers have nicknamed Planet Nine, has a mass about 10 times that of Earth and orbits about 20 times farther from the sun on average than does Neptune (which orbits the sun at an average distance of 2.8 billion miles). In fact, it would take this new planet between 10,000 and 20,000 years to make just one full orbit around the sun."


    Nibiru? :)
    2110) Message boards : Politics : 43 Flint, MI - USA - residents have high lead plasma (Message 1757700)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The poor people of Flint. What is astounding is how long it took for anything to be done once the it was apparent that the water was poisoned.

    Flint water crisis: 6 things to know about the toxic taps


    "Residents say they were kept in the dark for 18 months, assured their water was safe, until a local physician started noticing signs of lead poisoning in some of her patients."

    So who is to blame?

    "Lawyers have filed three class-action suits so far on behalf of Flint residents, alleging that state officials made multiple false assurances to claim the water was safe."

    So why is this considered a racist issue?
    How a Racist System Has Poisoned the Water in Flint, Mich.

    "Flint’s citizens, 52 percent African American, have been deprived of the right to govern their city since 2011. Michigan's Emergency Financial Manager law allows the governor to appoint an unelected official to control a city determined to be in fiscal crisis. Emergency Financial Managers have been primarily assigned to majority-African-American cities across Michigan. In the past decade, over half of African Americans in Michigan—compared with only 2 percent of whites—have lived under emergency management. EFMs are supposed to take over cities based on a neutral evaluation of financial circumstances—but majority-white municipalities with similar money problems have not been taken over. Flint’s poisoning is one effect of the systematic stripping of black civil rights in Michigan."

    So as the mayor was not in charge I really don't understand Clyde's point.


    He asked "What were their knowledge?" You've filled in a piece of the puzzle regarding MI EFM.

    (For 7 years, I lived about 2 hours from Flint.)
    2111) Message boards : Politics : TWO smoking guns? (Message 1757676)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What, pray tell, doctor, do you not understand?


    Your code word suggests you are not as new as your "146" posts suggests.

    What you appear to not understand is this community has few to more likely NO supporters of Mrs. Clinton.
    2112) Message boards : Politics : TWO smoking guns? (Message 1757534)
    Posted 20 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html

    Can you take it as well as dish it out?


    Who? What?
    2113) Message boards : Number crunching : Spontaneous detachment (Message 1757481)
    Posted 19 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I updated my two laptops to V8 last week. This morning one of them had no new tasks. When I brought it to work, still no new tasks. So, I looked more closely at Manager and saw I had been detached from the project, but not by my own doing. (I have re-attached after the outage this morning.) Anyone know why this might have occurred? If so, please PM me.
    2114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I do not come from where you come from, Dr. Becker............... (Message 1757359)
    Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not come from where YOU come from, Dr. Becker..........I never have.


    Class BA-3; future, uncertain.
    2115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I do not come from where you come from, Dr. Becker............... (Message 1757340)
    Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I, roo, am from K-PAX. But, I am older than you and somehow you do not know me.
    I want to tell you something; something that you do not already know.
    There's enough life in this forum to fill 50 forums and yet, when I leave, you will not post the same things. Will either posting be missed? Who's to know?
    2116) Message boards : Politics : TWO smoking guns? (Message 1757329)
    Posted 18 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ir's always good to simply post a link and then provide no commentary.
    Such threads are almost always the most lively.

    Professor Sarge
    2117) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1756897)
    Posted 16 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mentioned Trump and Fox. Leaving out The Clintons and CNN.

    I just entered your Universe. And pointed out the danger of your beliefs.

    Nothing more. Nothing less. ;)

    This is a thread about Donald, If you want comments on the Clintons then start a new thread.


    Disingenuous. But...


    No emphasis added.
    Any clearer now?
    2118) Message boards : Politics : Executive "OverReach" or a President being a President (Message 1756650)
    Posted 15 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the sake of simplicity here in these forums, I suggest we all adopt the terms "Freedom Party" (those who want less government) and "Slave Party" (those who want more government.)


    For the sake of simplicity, I command that we all have the ability to go back and edit our posts that go further back than one hour. When doing so, they must all be edited to "--".
    2119) Message boards : Politics : Republic or Democracy? (Message 1756439)
    Posted 15 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NOTE … look at today’s sexual freedoms.


    Bristol Palin, unwed & two unplanned pregnancies. Family fighting the fact that the second baby-daddy wants to be involved.
    2120) Message boards : Politics : Republic or Democracy? (Message 1756434)
    Posted 15 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Bringing this Thread back on track...]

    The US Government, under The Constitution, is a Republic:

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    John Witherspoon, signer - “Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state – it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.”

    Zephaniah Swift, author of America’s first legal text - “It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.”

    Benjamin Rush, signer - “ a simple democracy … is one of the greatest of evils.”

    John Quincy Adams - “The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.”

    Noah Webster - “In democracy … there are commonly tumults and disorders … Therefore a pure democracy is generally a very bad government. It is often the most tyrannical government on earth.”

    James Madison - “Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

    John Adams - “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

    Fisher Ames, author of the House language for the First Amendment - “A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way. The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and the ignorant believe to be liberty !! NOTE … look at today’s sexual freedoms.

    Gouverneur Morris, signer and penman of the Constitution - “We have seen the tumult of democracy terminate … as [it has] everywhere terminated, in despotism … Democracy! savage and wild. Thou who wouldst bring down the virtuous and wise to the level of folly and guilt.”

    Samuel Adams – “… it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds …”

    ---------------------------------------------

    As stated by the signers, we are governed by Rule of Law.


    TL


    This thread has NOT gone off track.
    Do you DENY that, despite the intentions of the Founders, the USA has become an oligarchy?
    2121) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1756393)
    Posted 14 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...I didn't, Odin did


    Ah, yes.
    2122) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1756382)
    Posted 14 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:





    Why did you black out "Rob"? :)
    2123) Message boards : Politics : Republic or Democracy? (Message 1756252)
    Posted 14 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oligarchy.
    2124) Message boards : Politics : Executive "OverReach" or a President being a President (Message 1756077)
    Posted 13 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well no worries. Texas will just forge a birth certificate for Ted Cruz if it becomes an issue like Hawaii did for Obama.


    Problem solved!
    2125) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1755441)
    Posted 10 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which Left? Which Right?
    That of the People?
    That of the Government?
    Or that of a few people or of a few that govern?
    2126) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1755349)
    Posted 10 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those wishing to disarm the State of Texas, raise your hand.
    Those wishing to disarm all citizens of the USA, raise your hand.


    There being no raised hands, the measure fails.
    2127) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1755147)
    Posted 9 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I ask again: where's the line between legitimate fears and paranoid delusions?


    ...is like asking where the line is between insanity and genius.


    Really?
    http://www.livescience.com/20713-genius-madness-connected.html
    Anything else to contribute?

    Here's a rational fear:
    Candidate hands out 20000 tickets to an event in a location he knows only holds 1400.
    Those able to get in raising a voice of dissent or, reportedly, even wearing something contrary leads to one's immediate ejection from the event, no questions asked.
    Rather than even allow the slightest bit of questioning (which, if allowed and then answered reasonably might even bring more into his fold), instead he quashes dissent.

    Then we have this:

    (Note, in the following image, there are some swear words. I do not know where the "kid-friendly" policy currently stands at S@H, particularly in the Politics forum. However, I submit that this can easily by found by kids on the site I have linked to and multiple other sites. Also, they have been said by public figures, not me. I think it is worthwhile seeing how this is an example of where political discourse stands these days.)



    Trump quashes dissent.
    He is clearly a "divider". I have provided some concrete examples.
    When he does respond to dissent, it is via junior high level insults, insults that aren't even very good.
    The sad thing is, I have seen a few interviews where Trump talks some sense.
    Where we are now, though? This is spiraling out of control. I too wonder, as Clyde has: when will we see blood spilled at a Trump event?
    (And when we do, will Alex Jones and Ted Cruz claim atrocities were perpetrated by a liberal or Illuminati agent provocateur?)
    2128) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1754994)
    Posted 9 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A tool? Pencils and spoons?

    Can you say something that makes sense?

    The first step to another disastrous genocidal maniac is to take away the means of the people to protect against another genocidal maniac.
    How about reading something that makes sense from the *governor* of Texas?

    http://gov.texas.gov/files/press-office/Restoring_The_Rule_Of_Law_01082016.pdf


    So, you wish to have the Governor speak and not the Lieutenant Governor?
    What do you not understand?
    See about 2 minutes in to the video.
    Do you deny cars, hammers, pencils and spoons are tools? (Do you have trouble seeing why I have chosen to include these particular examples?) Do you deny that a gun is a tool?
    DO YOU LOVE YOUR TOOLS?
    2129) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1754967)
    Posted 8 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those wishing to disarm the State of Texas, raise your hand.
    Those wishing to disarm all citizens of the USA, raise your hand.

    Those wishing to love a tool, please speak with the Lt. Governor of Texas. I for one love pencils and spoons.
    2130) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1754935)
    Posted 8 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I ask again: where's the line between legitimate fears and paranoid delusions?
    2131) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1753453)
    Posted 3 Jan 2016 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, stop looking at the symptom and focus on the the problem. The problem is how the US refuses to treat mental illness.

    The problem goes back to a time when mentally ill persons could be institutionalized against their will.


    In the mid-1990s, for a while, I taught at a private school for teens deemed either “emotionally disturbed” or PINS (“person in need of supervision”). Certain steps could be taken when a student “posed a danger to self, others or property”. To my recollection, the rules were similar when making a decision to institutionalize someone that was mentally ill against his or her will.

    Facilities were terrible.


    Having seen not only the facilities where I taught in the mid-1990s but also having visited inside a psychiatric center associated with a nearby general hospital throughout the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, I question this statement. I would say the one I saw was a mixed bag. On the one hand, locked in a room at night, like a jail cell. Food as good or bad as one would consider hospital food. On the other hand, opportunities for entertainment and exercise. Not only were some (all?) on medication, there were also counseling sessions. My impression was that the worst thing must have been having to be around other mentally ill people. How does one fight depression when surrounded by others also depressed, for example? Also, what an “excellent” way for people who are paranoid, for example, to improve, when there’s the opportunity for hearing about the paranoid delusions of others and grafting it on to the story in one’s own mind?

    Your comments, now and earlier, make me wonder what you really saw. if anything, of the mental health system? It sounds as if you are describing conditions of an earlier decade. Conditions railed against by the … ahem … the Scientologists. (Why did Tom Cruise, in the early 2000s, argue against the origins of psychiatry and conditions of an earlier decade as opposed to things as they currently stood?)

    Gary, I’m not saying these things to attack you. Rather, let’s see if together we and others can come to a better understanding. If we can, we then have an opportunity to share our thoughts with others and politicians.

    Bleeding hearts did as they do and didn't consider the final result of their well intentioned action, and forced these facilities to close. They did not build any replacement system for care. The ill were literally tossed on the street. As you know the US does not have any health care. They sat and festered. Some of them may have been able to function enough to get the money to buy a gun. You would expect in a sane country that there would be a list of mental cases that gun sellers could check. Not in America because privacy of medical records is more important than the safety of the public at large.


    http://www.sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html

    Conventional wisdom suggests that the reduction of funding for social welfare policies during the 1980s is the result of a conservative backlash against the welfare state. With such a backlash, it should be expected that changes in the policies toward involuntary commitment of the mentally ill reflect a generally conservative approach to social policy more generally. In this case, however, the complex of social forces that lead to less restrictive guidelines for involuntary commitment are not the result of conservative politics per se, but rather a coalition of fiscal conservatives, law and order Republicans, relatives of mentally ill patients, and the practitioners working with those patients. Combined with a sharp rise in homelessness during the 1980s, Ronald Reagan pursued a policy toward the treatment of mental illness that satisfied special interest groups and the demands of the business community, but failed to address the issue: the treatment of mental illness


    I’ve commented similarly before. Did “bleeding hearts” play any role? Maybe, maybe not. I maintain what happened in the 1980s had a lot to do with his fiscal cutbacks. Though the following is from 2 years ago, note that it refers to “the marketplace”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vko1OA_wz-8.

    Around the same time the Vietnam war ended. The vets came back with PTSD and got home to being spat on and called baby killer. The VA didn't treat, and still doesn't. A huge influx into a system that had no treatment.


    That was about 8 years earlier, though I wouldn’t be surprised vets suffered from the cutbacks in the following decade.

    At the same time America declared war on drugs.


    Yes, that was at about the same time. I know of a man, while an out-patient, that was using marijuana during that time. I wonder how well it mixed with his prescribed medication.

    America has begun the legalize drugs and the gangs have been able to put their weapons away.


    Violent gang activity continues in areas with legalized marijuana.

    All the while the USA has been putting more and more guns into the hands of citizens. The vast majority of which are completely level headed responsible persons. So it appears as if more guns means less gun deaths.

    Finally if you look at the real numbers you will find that gun death by suicide is the only category which is going up. If some nut blows his own brains out to society as a whole that is not a terrible outcome. It is only if the nut decides to take others with him that society has a negative outcome. Perhaps the solution is to legalize suicide, go to the pharmacy and get your suicide pill.

    Yes, Ian, the US has a problem. The problem isn't the gun, the problem is the nut holding the gun. Treat the nut, not the symptom.


    I have anxiously awaited the follow up to Wayne La Pierre’s suggestion that we in the U.S.A. have a frank discussion about mental illness in this country. I do not see it on the horizon. Those last two paragraphs do not move it forward. There are a variety of faces to mental illness. There are also … ahem … a variety of ways to commit suicide, several of which have nothing to do with guns.

    Finally, http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/5695/20130320/25-percent-u-s-population-mentally-ill-40-smokes-cigarettes.htm claims 25% of the population of the U.S.A. suffers from sort type of mental illness. Is this from a source you would trust? If not, what would be a source you would trust?

    In any case, does that still leave “a vast majority which are level-headed”? Well, yes, it does. However, it says nothing about whether that statistic will go up or down, let alone that it says nothing about something crucial in understanding mental health: some stay the same, some get better, some go round-and-round (thank you, 1980s cutbacks!) and others get worse.
    2132) Message boards : Politics : Democratic Presidential debates (Message 1751564)
    Posted 24 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, we are taking bets on who will be the
    First Citizen in the new American Imperium!


    edit:
    I have my money on the Donald!

    I honestly think that it will be...
    Hillary and Sanders, President and VP.
    You could not get a more vibrant, and robust duo, out of the field, out there.
    Most, i think, would agree. History is on their side.
    Then there is the Donald, who i believe is a Manchurian Candidate, out to
    implode the Republican Party.
    Republican attacks on Women, Muslims, Immigrants, and their admiration of Putin,
    will change voting, of those demographics, towards the Democrats.
    I think it's a done deal.


    Except I'm seeing people adopt their admiration of Putin. They fail to see a contradiction. I think, at this point in time, you're being overly optimistic.
    2133) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1751561)
    Posted 24 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's hoping Thor is kind to the new Sun after her mother was devoured by Fenrir two days ago.

    Yuletide greetings to one and all.


    Fenrir always got my goat.
    Blessed Saturnalia to all!
    2134) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1751524)
    Posted 24 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are having this discussion with a European (at least by birth).

    I do not believe as you that European cultures are primitive, nor do I believe, as you suggest Churchill did, that American culture is in need of civilizing.

    I suspect that cultures are something like species, different in character though not significantly different in advancement (all extant species have been subject to essentially equal levels of evolution, and can be traced back to a common ancestor, I suspect cultures are are subject to equivalent pressures, and also have a common ancestor).

    bobby...

    I spoke of American, not European. Your mistake?

    Ever read Winston Churchill's (American born mother): History of the English-Speaking Peoples?

    Re: Different Cultures.

    Please explain the Cowboy and Gun Culture (200,000,000 guns and support of Assault Rifles in their hands) of Americans. And if it differs from most Western European Cultures?


    Clyde, I have not read Churchill. Before Bobby posted, I guessed what you meant but I also saw how it could be read. Whether Bobby guessed what you meant but responded based on the way it could be read or did not know what you were saying and responded based on how it could be read ... ?
    2135) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1751106)
    Posted 22 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JaundicedEye...

    'They' neither care, nor will acknowledge the following:

    Criminals and terrorists do not follow any law.

    Disarming ONLY the Law Abiding. Is an attempt to fulfill their dream of Controlling You.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.


    Jeb Bush admitted at a debate to having smoked pot as a teen.
    At the time he did it, in the place he did it, it was against the law.
    That makes Jeb Bush a criminal.
    Criminals do not follow any law?
    2136) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750982)
    Posted 22 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You support slavery?

    Ya see, this is why people are angry.

    When I say I'm for the constitution, you demonstrate liberal Tourette’s Syndrome and start accusing me of things like this.

    You are correct.

    Also agree with Sarge, regarding Fascism increasing in The USA.

    Fascism is a response to The Left's:

    I just find it so amazing that most of you Yanks will support a racist bigot warmonger

    Unfortunately. The response to Evil. Is, most times, another Evil.

    As with Marx. Trump correctly identifies The Problem. His Solution, as with Marx, is worse.

    There must be a better way to reduce the Internally Hate Filled Left's influence.


    Clyde: does not "the response to evil is another evil" (paraphrased) run counter to "evil is evil" and "not due to circumstances"?

    When I say fascism is increasing, I am saying I have seen it since before 2008. I have given an example.

    I also have another question: is there a "left" and a "right" for the average person that is different for the politicians?
    2137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Star Wars movie (Message 1750718)
    Posted 21 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rather disappointed in the new movie. I don't think JJ Abrams knows what he's doing with this franchise.


    Did Lucas, either, really?
    We know he paid homage to various film traditions as well as paid attention to history. But, I think he cobbled together way too many things to make the 6 episodes a good story. Only the last 1/2 of Episode III saved anything for me.

    That said, Abrams' attempt could have been worse ... a lot worse. So, I may see VIII.
    2138) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750672)
    Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To add to my response to Clyde's question:

    Two people I see often have expressed support for Trump. One of them was a relaxed guy at the time of the 2012 elections. I can't tell you who he voted for because I don't know, but he didn't spout anti-Obama rhetoric. However, since July of this year, he's talked to me and others about conspiracy theories, owning a gun, having witnessed greater military activity, worry that Obama's coming after his gun, etc. ... .
    2139) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750608)
    Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2140) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750606)
    Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now... Back to Subject.

    Anyone really FOR Trump.

    Or is it a 'Protest Vote'?


    Anecdotally, yes, there are people really for Trump.
    2141) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750605)
    Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's hilarious how some self-proclaimed centrists indirectly claim moral and
    intellectual superiority by bashing both the Left and the Right.
    None of their opinions ever offer solutions to problems, since by doing so their
    solutions could then be labeled as either Leftist or Rightist.
    Centrists never have, and never will, accomplish anything.
    The Status-quo is all the "squishy middle" will ever understand.

    There are three kinds of people who claim to be centrists in this country today. There are embarrassed Republicans. There are lazy people. And there are liars.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19957-focus-i-hate-centrism

    Looking from the outside, I would have thought the opposite applied. At the moment any attempts at passing any laws, seems to be a struggle because those from the other side, will say that this is an attempt to impose extreme measures and automatically vote against the motion. Therefore nothing gets done, until absolutely necessary and at the last minute, like funding for the government departments. This seems to happen every year recently.

    If the parties were closer to the centre, then the opposition might say there is some mileage in those suggestions, we will vote for the motion with these slight amendments.

    And I must point out, in general from a world viewpoint US politics are actually more central than extremist. The extremes would be Fascism on one side and Communism on the other.


    And you fail to see the fascism here, which is growing?
    2142) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750602)
    Posted 20 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clinton, however... has way too many legal issues involving her to be qualified to be POTUS, IMO.


    She is an empty pant's suit. The fact that she didn't leave Bill was all I needed to disqualify her as anything but an opportunistic leach. I am far from being a prude; but Jeezsh !


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGranwN_uk&feature=youtu.be&t=19
    2143) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750302)
    Posted 19 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah the intelligence of a voter for Trump:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/poll-finds-41-trump-voters-bomb-aladdin-city-article-1.2470693
    The Return of Jafar: Poll finds 41% of likely Trump voters want to bomb Agrabah — the fictional city from ‘Aladdin’


    Nothing new there. Here are several examples which show the intelligence of democrat voters:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=watters+world+channel

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+dice+channel

    And of course, I showed a few posts back that students at Yale think it's a good idea to repeal the 1st amendment... The amendment which guarantees them the right to... does anybody else see any hypocrisy there?


    Maybe your next brief screen name change should be to "Whining Guy"?

    ...

    You are ...

    CORRUPT ...

    and we are no longer accepting open or closed statements or questions from you until you admit the error of your ways. We will, however, listen to the same things you would say, if said by an intelligent person that admits to being a human being.

    ...
    2144) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1750159)
    Posted 18 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1. "temporary" ban


    Right. And walls to hold us in. Even Alex Jones has a clip on youtube where his associates decry one of the latest proposals regarding the internet. Is Jones' love affair with Trump ending?

    2. wants to find out what's going on


    People are killing people.

    3. wants to find out where the hate is coming from

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/13/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-state-of-the-union/


    Hate is everywhere. It comes from the medulla oblongata. Even yours.
    2145) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1749306)
    Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Gary...

    This confirms what I have been saying about The Left.

    Thank you.


    Except that Gary is not on the left.
    2146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Graduate Student Project Questions - SETI@Home (Message 1749236)
    Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you, Angela! I'll reach out in a few weeks.


    Claire, I am grading final exams. You may PM me in approximately two days so I can be reminded and for me to give you my answers.
    2147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I do not come from where you come from, Dr. Becker............... (Message 1749182)
    Posted 14 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we mixing Brewer with Ted Danson's second big role?

    Probably neither.
    Either "The Day the Earth Stood Still" or "K-Pax"
    Gonna have to wait until Mark comes back to find out for sure.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-PAX

    K-PAX is the name of the first novel in the K-PAX series by Gene Brewer.


    Brewer called the doctor in his novel by his own last name. In the movie, the character became Doctor Powell (played by Jeff Bridges).

    The thread title is a line, or a paraphrase of the line, from the movie (which may have also been in the book, I'd have to re-read it).

    Celt: he may be invisible for now, but his post history (of un-moderated posts) can still be viewed and I am responding to one of those posts, made in this thread.
    2148) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1749033)
    Posted 13 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've lived in 6 states and been through and to others.
    I've never met a country,
    let alone a great one.
    I've met people that were great or at least have had moments of greatness.
    Do you want a great country or great PEOPLE?
    2149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I do not come from where you come from, Dr. Becker............... (Message 1749032)
    Posted 13 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we mixing Brewer with Ted Danson's second big role?

    Anyway:

    I've lived in 6 states and been through and to others.
    I've never met a country,
    let alone a great one.
    I've met people that were great or at least have had moments of greatness.
    Do you want a great country or great PEOPLE?
    2150) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1748729)
    Posted 12 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There can be no banning of Muslims or any other religion from the US because of the Constitution Article 6 para 3.

    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

    WinterKnight...

    Apples/Oranges.

    This does not apply to Foreign Policy (Including Immigration).

    All a President, or Congress must do, is give any reason, to ban any group.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/opinion/trumps-anti-muslim-plan-is-awful-and-constitutional.html

    But Trump did not only say he wanted to stop all Muslim immigrants he also said he wanted to remove all Muslims from the US, and that is, as far as I can find out is unlawful.

    And as I said before, he is one person along with his family, by his own logic would have been removed from the US in the 30's or 40's, as he is of German/Scottish descendancy, he cannot have it both ways.

    edit]There was nothing before the San Bernardino incident to stop Syed Rizwan Farook running for office as he is an American Muslim, born in Chicago.


    The way Einstein was not removed from the US during that time?
    2151) Message boards : Politics : Forced Religion (Message 1748727)
    Posted 12 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.ktvn.com/story/30711005/woman-sues-over-alleged-forced-scientology-sessions
    LOS ANGELES (AP) - A Southern California woman claims she was fired after being forced to take on-the-job Scientology classes.

    City News Service says Annie R. Lee filed a lawsuit Tuesday against Pasadena-based Lusida Rubber Products and two company executives.

    Lee says a month after she was hired as a customer service representative last year, the company began requiring employees to attend 30-minute classes based on Scientology teachings. She says the classes eventually were held almost daily and that one executive repeatedly urged her to denounce her existing religious beliefs.

    The suit contends that Lee and other employees who complained were fired and most were replaced with members of the Church of Scientology.

    Lee alleges wrongful termination, religious discrimination and harassment.

    One executive, Wayne Chin, declined to comment on advice of his attorney.

    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20151209/arcadia-woman-says-refusal-to-learn-scientology-got-her-fired-in-pasadena


    You rightly point out only Clyde responded to the story.
    So, I will say that, on the one hand, I do have a friend that I went to high school with who is a Scientologist. He is a talented musician, having worked both with rock/metal and some things more experimental, and now country (though I do not think he fits in the traditional mold, from I've listened to). I refrain from posting on social media things I have learned, or suspicions others have aired, about Scientology. When he posted to me directly a video to a song of his that urges better choices than pharmaceuticals for mental illnesses (a term they don't acknowledge as I understand it), I did not comment, though I have strong opinions due to watching the experiences of ones close to me in this respect. Had someone else commented, for or against, I would have shared some of my thoughts, in as respectful a manner as I could.

    But employers forcing their religion on others? Intolerable!
    2152) Message boards : Politics : Forced Religion (Message 1748488)
    Posted 11 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our IRS is already too powerful, can't even rationally implement our existing 74,000 pages of tax code, is a Marxist redistribution arm of our current regime, oppresses our middle class, and is abused and taken advantage of by our ruling class and rich.

    By the way, I like how people who reside in other countries demonstrate how much they know about our country by telling us we need to centralize more power into the hands of our bureaucrats in order to fix things. Why don't you just suggest our king publicly burn our constitution?


    And I like how you act morally superior. "..." should be your new screen name.

    But SERIOUSLY, how the FREAKIN' FRACK?!? do you go from "oppresses our middle class, and is abused and taken advantage of by our ruling class and rich" to "Marxist redistribution arm". FRACKING TELL ME, "...", how that is not you contradicting yourself?
    2153) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1748437)
    Posted 11 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering this country.

    Is this the truth? Yes.

    Is this the *whole* truth? No.

    Is this nothing *but* the truth? Not answerable yet because it's not the *whole* truth.

    By some standards (which I have had to live up to in previous occupations), this would, therefore, be called a lie because it presents an idea which could be misinterpreted by many and therefore calls into question whether or not it is intentionally misleading.

    Ok, so Clinton is finally recognizing that some are afraid of what's happening in the world and what might happen more here in the U.S.

    What about *all the other issues* that Americans are tired of, scared of, and angry about--that Hillary will continue to make Americans tired of, scared of and angry about?


    I'm tired of people who abuse power, leaving "..." in place of original words and then claiming to be someone that lives up to high standards. And those people will always be reminded of it. Such people may border on evil, but how could I discriminate, I can't even tell which party I'm not registered for!?

    Should we ban people from not having passports?
    Sure, you can fly from the northern mid-west off our continent to Hawai'i with no need for a passport (or at least you could in January 2007), but you can no longer pass through (for 360 miles) through the contiguous land of an ally. Pragmatism lost in fear.
    2154) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1748256)
    Posted 10 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we will need protection from him.

    Sarge...

    You are correct. But his supporters are only responding to their valid concerns.

    Unfortunately. No one else has stepped up, to voice their concerns. They just attack him. Thereby, reputing not only the concerns of his supporters. But possibly the concerns of the majority of the American people.

    Hopefully, for everyone's sake. Someone else 'Steps Up'.


    When does a valid concern become an irrational fear?
    2155) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1748209)
    Posted 10 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think The Donald needs a sort of security force
    to protect him in public. You know, like a squad
    or company of men to travel around with him.
    He could even dress them the same in a distinct uniform,
    or even just the same colour shirts say. Then every
    one would know better who was who at meetings. I bet
    things would go better then.


    edit:
    Why hasn't any one thought of this before....


    I think we will need protection from him.
    I estimate a 33% chance, at this time, he will be the GOP nominee and win the election.
    The paranoid faction that has feared what they have feared are now inviting it to happen in their support Trump.
    For those supporters that are Libertarians, we need other Libertarians to let them know why ... very specific reasons ... Trump does not have the support of all Libertarians.
    Gun owners: gun owners that do not support Trump need to give gun owners that do specific reasons why they do not support Trump.
    As for this being the result of rejection of the Left, sorry Clyde, but I just don't see it. You yourself have said Obama has been ineffectual, correct? Obama and his crew have at best done 2 things to move this country left and it hasn't been by much.

    In 1986, I could cross into Canada at Niagara Falls with no passport and again in 1996 at Alexandria Bay. On my mother's death in 2007, I could not return back to the state I studied by crossing Canada. I was forced to make the trip 2 to 3 times longer for lack of a passport. Why the hell should I need a passport when it was not needed before. A driver's license should have been good enough! And you know it wasn't the Canadians putting the limitations in place. It was the fascists in our country, building a wall around us and penning us in.
    2156) Message boards : Politics : "Evil is Evil" (Message 1747740)
    Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This subject is dealt with in exquisite allegory in Sir William Golding's novel, Lord of the Flies, published in 1954.

    A few quotes that touch on this subject:

    Civilization is hideously fragile... there’s not much between us and the Horrors underneath, just about a coat of varnish. -C.P. Snow

    Civilization: a thin veneer over barbarianism. -John M. Shanahan

    And my favourite:

    There are many humorous things in the world; among them, the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages. -Mark Twain, Following the Equator


    Regarding your post and Steve's:

    Rush
    ====
    "Lock and Key"
    ==============
    http://www.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dPYAsDQuYHIM/RK=0/RS=N0x_TNudkQOuXhpTjjw4hCzVmzw-
    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me

    We carry a sensitive cargo
    Below the waterline
    Tickin' like a time bomb
    With a primitive design

    Behind the finer feelings
    This civilized veneer
    The heart of a lonely hunter
    Guards a dangerous frontier

    The balance can sometimes fail
    Strong emotions can tip the scale

    Don't want to silence a desperate voice
    For the sake of security
    No one wants to make a terrible choice
    On the price of being free

    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key
    Lock and key

    It's not a matter of mercy
    It's not a matter of laws
    Plenty of people will kill you
    For some fanatical cause

    It's not a matter of conscience
    A search for probable cause
    It's just a matter of instinct
    A matter of fatal flaws

    No reward for resistance
    No assistance, no applause

    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key

    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key
    Lock and key

    I don't want to silence a desperate voice
    For the sake of security
    No one wants to make a terrible choice
    On the price of being free

    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key

    I don't want to face the killer instinct
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key
    Lock and key

    We don't want to be victims
    On that we all agree
    So we lock up the killer instinct
    And throw away the key
    [url]Read more at http://www.songlyrics.com/rush/lock-and-key-lyrics/#2Jocd6Rk6CspSVcS.99[/url]
    2157) Message boards : Politics : "Evil is Evil" (Message 1747738)
    Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.apa.org/monitor/apr04/second.aspx
    http://psych.colorado.edu/~carey/Courses/PSYC5112/Readings/psn_Markon02.pdf
    http://www.crimetimes.org/04a/w04ap6.htm

    Need to finish reading the second.

    Am I correct in my interpretation. That a persons 'DNA' may have a greater effect upon a persons response. Than environmental?


    Like Socrates would say, I wouldn't claim to know for sure. I don't think the articles I posted all say the same thing, either.
    I am simply soliciting thoughts regarding the nature versus nurture continuum debate.
    If there's anything to it, that each has an effect, then I think we do "need to understand". Saying that does not necessarily excuse a crime, a bad or evil choice or
    2158) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1747723)
    Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With things like this doing the rounds, makes one think what is wrong with the US.


    Look at France and Germany, too.

    What is the 'Problem' with The Entire West, is The Left and Secular Progressives.

    They, and all of us, will 'Reap what they have sown'.

    Unless the we can find a way to reduce the power and influence of The Left, and Secular Progressives. Without a Trump.

    Germany couldn't. Pray we can.


    The fascism was already here. The Left has never attained the level of power some believe. An arrow aimed at the right will be shifted to the arrow at the left, easily destroyed while the right chokes on its own blood.
    2159) Message boards : Politics : "Evil is Evil" (Message 1747598)
    Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.apa.org/monitor/apr04/second.aspx
    http://psych.colorado.edu/~carey/Courses/PSYC5112/Readings/psn_Markon02.pdf
    http://www.crimetimes.org/04a/w04ap6.htm

    Need to finish reading the second.
    2160) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1747594)
    Posted 8 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mr. Trump does more to make America unsafe than al Queida and ISIL combined. Plays into hands of terrorists by suggesting America has declared war on Islam.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/
    Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump called Monday to block all Muslims from entering the United States.

    Sigh:(
    Trump is a stupid man.
    Ibrahim Hooper, director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, reacted indignantly.
    - Now we are into fascism area. This should worry not only American Muslims, but all Americans, that the leading Republican presidential candidate in practice do a fascist statement like this.
    Wonder what the reaction would be if if he said block all Jews or any other religion from entering the United States...
    Perhaps our FM Margot should say that we now block US Christians to enter our country!


    We already were in that area. It's just becoming a lot worse and a lot more obvious. A certain series of books (fiction) did well illustrating the dangers of totalitarianism on either side. Unfortunately, the movies didn't do the illustration as well. Meantime, we still have the intolerant calling independents liberals. That will never ever ever get those independents to come to their side and vote like them.
    2161) Message boards : Politics : "Evil is Evil" (Message 1747305)
    Posted 6 Dec 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If, as Clyde says, "evil is evil" and "thus, it is not a matter of understanding what conditions led to performing evil acts, but a choice an evil person made" (not necessarily a quote, but probably a good paraphrase?) ... .

    If this is the case, why does it seem to me that often "evil" is usually rare, random, low-grade, etc. ... but we have periods in time where it congeals and many people are engaged in horrific acts all at once?

    Why are some in the US government saying they wish the Anonymous Hacktivist group would not work to shut down as much of ISIS' social media as possible?

    What is "temptation" in the face of the statement "evil is evil"?

    (If anyone makes a particularly good post, feel free to also PM me. Otherwise, starting Tuesday, I am going to be very busy for a about a solid week.)
    2162) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1745264)
    Posted 27 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regardless of the he said/she said of why the protester was there, was his being roughed up and then saying "Maybe he deserved it" the only option? No security/cops around?
    2163) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1745092)
    Posted 26 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it fascinating that so many good answers were given in the previous thread, saying in many ways what Rob said towards the end (expressed given our time constraints with lives outside reading and posting here), yet the OP of the previous thread trashed all earlier answers and applauded Rob's. What game was being played? Why close the previous thread and expect us all to understand his perspective when so there was so little effort on his part?
    2164) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Mark II) (Message 1744799)
    Posted 25 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
    2165) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1742585)
    Posted 16 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not sure of a better place to put this.
    Busy weeks here at work, folks. Plus, I just managed to break 10000 posts here last week.
    So, if you don't see me post much or at all until next week or beyond, don't be surprised.
    Keep the discussions going.
    2166) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1741898)
    Posted 14 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Therefore it is a fact that you are much more likely to be killed or injured by one of your own citizens with a gun or rifle than by any outside group.

    I don't believe I qualified madmen seeking martyrdom by any distinction of origin. A madman is a madman, treat the illness or execute them, that is the only answer.

    I will continue to 'cling to my Bible and my Guns' as my President suggests. If anyone wishes to think gun laws or gun free zones make them safe, I will not attempt to dissuade them. That's the way natural selection works.

    A French police official confirming two suicide attacks and one bombing near the Stade de France stadium.
    At least 15 people were killed at the Bataclan concert hall in central Paris.
    Between 60 and 100 people are reportedly being held hostage at the Bataclan arts centre.
    How do you feel safe in such situations even if you have an own gun?
    If one in the hostage where about to shoot to defend himself that person would be most likely be dead by now!
    You cannot protect yourself with a handgun against suicide bombers and persons with automatic weapons.
    Ah, you don't understand the fantasy that every one of those hostages has a gun. The person with the automatic weapon would be so full of holes from all those hostages that he would only be able to hit a scant handful of hostages before his insides were splattered on the wall.
    +1
    In addition, if there is the possibility that every hostage is trained and armed, the terrorists might not be so quick to do something like this. There is a difference between slaughtering sheep and wolves.


    So, despite their hatred and desire for revenge millenia old, they will be logical to an extent and only kill what they view as "the sheep"? Despite the fact that they know there will be retaliation from "the wolves"?
    2167) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1741824)
    Posted 13 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be nice if this can be confirmed


    This story will be around for weeks bit funny how that hospital that got bombed disappeared from the news after a couple of days . Wonder why that was ?


    If the media forgets, DO YOU? I know I don't.
    2168) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1741789)
    Posted 13 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be nice if this can be confirmed

    Just a 'Feel Good' incident.

    Doesn't change anything.


    I agree.

    There are 3 options, as I see it:

    1) Total destruction, as you have acknowledged yet not advocated.
    2) People putting things in proper perspective: ISIS is dangerous, yet the probability of me dying due to an ISIS attack within the next 72 hours is 0.0001.
    3) Or, really change hearts and minds of fundamentalist terrorists. Get them to see we are all better off, even them, if the madness comes to an end. Now. And forever.
    2169) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1741607)
    Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is a graph of field of science.

    For some reason I like to think that the field noted as ? is philosophy.


    As others have stated and I posted here some years ago, mathematics and science most definitely arose from philosophy. Thank Euclid for putting it on solid ground to silence the sophists.

    Luckily, Chris is on solid ground ... solid for 3500-500 BCE.
    2170) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1741606)
    Posted 12 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor's 40 mph winds make this Nor'easter cold when they blow down from the 14ers.
    2171) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1741405)
    Posted 11 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    only 48.7% said they were christians.

    Attacking, and vilifying minorities, is disgusting.

    Whether Racial, Cultural, or Religious.

    You need to do some more homework.

    How many times do I have to tell you this.

    The 18 to 19 year old christians in the US are not a minority group because in the US the social majority are the christians.


    What percent of 18 and 19 year olds in the U.S. are Christian?
    Or, if you prefer (a la Eleanor Arroway), christian?
    2172) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1741011)
    Posted 10 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fascinating that a sophist should mention axioms.
    2173) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1741001)
    Posted 10 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should correct myself.

    Apparently I pasted the link following "in response to" when making a reference to an earlier posting.

    Rather it should be the first link that should be used here.

    Sorry about that mistake.


    Geoff Tate used to be an amazing singer.
    Via his spirit. I transcended to a belief in the spirit of Darwin which may or may not have Platonically existed.
    Alas, Geoff no longer retains his awesomeness. At a rate greater than c. amidst lack of practice, alleged smoking and arrogance, he no longer soars across the octaves.
    Is it because of this that my faith in Einstein shattered?
    2174) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1740999)
    Posted 10 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822%2815%2901167-7.pdf

    Results from a linear regression with number of stickers shared as the dependent variable ... .


    What was on the stickers? If Luke Skywalker, I could see Chinese kids not giving a #%$@ and sharing away something not cared about anyway.

    I do not see documentation of the issue Michel raised, but it is a believable concern: could most of the Chinese children been atheist (and maybe a small percent Buddhist), all the Jordanian children Muslim and most of the Turkish children been Muslim (with, maybe, less than a majority, some Christianb)? Where is the control for culture?

    What about what I asked: length of time the family the child is from been non-religious (or religious)? Number of years or number of generations? Where's the control for that?
    2175) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1740996)
    Posted 10 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least he is not afraid of telling about his possible opinions when it comes to at least a couple of things, including the subject of being able to believe.


    Yes, Mark does do that and he is free to do so.
    Which opinions of yours were you supposed to be sharing?
    2176) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1740920)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... but why not perhaps make a distinction between God and some fanatical religion which may be around?


    Other than this, how is your post a response to something Clyde's said?

    You know I am having my own thread here and it is supposed to be about science quite often or most of the time.


    Looking back as far as October 5 in Politics and as far back as August 3 in Science (non-SETI), I cannot find a thread about science originally authored by musicplayer. To which thread were you referring, please?
    2177) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1740916)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To clap as we understand it needs two hands or a hand and another object.

    Young Sir, I suggest that you are getting your transitive and intransitive Verbs, and nouns mixed up.

    See here Clap

    The last time I clapped a hand on someone's knee she was not amused!


    Sorry, I win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL-msGUwyug.
    2178) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1740888)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think The Donald is like the great
    Gretzky,(All Bow!) he can do any thing!

    Elect The Donald!




    Not everyone has eyes as good as yours. Edited to magnify.
    2179) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1740881)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You make some very good points in your post, mp.


    Then please translate, Julie.

    BTW ... banished: ID 10223287.
    2180) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1740873)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know you are quite good at it ...


    You are.

    Definitely a definition of God is impossible to give, because not everyone is believing in his existence.


    Really?
    In Euclidean geometry, an equilateral triangle is defined as a triangle with all equal sides. (As a consequence, all angles are all 60 degrees.)
    I propose it is highly probable that all attempts to ever construct an equilateral triangle have failed, not because of the method (which can be proven to produce a perfect result if followed perfectly) because of human inaccuracies and inaccuracies in the straightedges and compasses used.
    If all attempts to produce an equilateral triangle have, in truth, produced a-not-so-equilateral triangle, then the definition is of something that does not (yet) exist.
    Yet that thing can still be most certainly be visualized and talked about.
    Nonetheless, people wonder, what the h311 are you talking about and whether you really contribute anything to a discussion.

    Therefore we are left with using the scientific method in order to be able to understand certain things, regardless of whether or not God should in fact be existing.


    I see. So, not only do we get to decide on the existence, but we also get to decide on whether something should or should not exist. I say it doesn't exist, but feel it should, thus, I will make it so.
    2181) Message boards : Politics : Will the "YouTube Era" change policing? (Message 1740837)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Street Anarchy and Criminalizing Childhood, must continue.


    As in the "zero tolerance" approach of the past 10-20 years?
    2182) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1740827)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "the sound of one hand clapping" is "woosh, woosh", from the proper perspective.


    Ah, but think on this. We all know from experience what it sounds like when two hands clap together in applause. One hand moving through the air at about the same speed for that distance, makes no sound at all. Try it. To clap as we understand it needs two hands or a hand and another object.

    Strictly you sentence should read

    "the sound of one hand moving in the air fast enough, is "woosh, woosh", from the proper perspective."

    ducks behind sofa ....


    So, you've never clapped a hand on or near your knee.
    2183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Star Wars movie (Message 1740752)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge have you seen all six movies in order ??.....Maybe you should !!


    Are you disagreeing with my analysis? ("I've got a bad feeling about this.")
    2184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Star Wars movie (Message 1740729)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cool clip Admiral I like the new R2-D2 and the light sabre . Can't wait to see how they take this one .

    Free to Air T.V has been showing all the movies in the right order for the last 6 weeks and I was thinking after last nights Return of the Jedi how can they take the story line on from this as the Emperor is dead and so is Darth Vader the universe celebrates and the Republic is safe .

    But the more clips I see the more I know I'm gona like this next one and a few twists are in order so the story will continue .........

    Without losing the plot Yeeeeeee


    How?

    How did it go from a time of a peace to a time of the Sith rising to their defeat to Darth Plaegus to Darths Sidhious and Vader to their defeatr and peace to ... ? Lucas just capitalized on a very very old idea, the cyclical nature of time. More specifically, the belief that peace cannot last. That evil will arise again and be even harder to defeat.
    2185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Star Trek series!! (Message 1740726)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have that book somewhere. It's not really all that useful. Besides, the TV and movie writers did NOT stick to what was in it after it was published.

    Damn, so it won't be all that useful when Seti finds some Klingons?

    Maybe some. Nooknekh and Qapla (however you spell them) are still accurate.


    MIRi'yap!
    2186) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1740724)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-"the sound of one hand clapping" is "woosh, woosh", from the proper perspective.
    2187) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Philosophy (Message 1740723)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Added to all this is Zeno's paradoxes, the most famous being Achilles and the tortoise, and Homer and the bus. Zeno It COULD be said that in THEORY Achilles is always some distance away from the tortoise, even if just 1 millionth of an inch, and the same as the bus. But in practical terms, one last flying leap would put him in front of it, or one last hop would put him on it.

    This is explained by the dichotomy paradox that concludes that all motion therefore must be just an illusion. Utter tosh.

    The three examples that you gave DO exist, we can detect them, we just don't know exactly what they are. This business of the cat and the tree is just woolly thinking, from people that think too much, and has no practical purpose that I can see.


    What Xeno described essentially involved two particles of no dimension, which he and his contemporaries could not imagine or sufficiently imagine. In the case of Achilles and the tortoise, Achilles' heel ... errr, foot, could only include a millionth of an inch rather than be encapsulated in a millionth of an inch.

    As Sagan pointed out in Cosmos, not be able to delve deeper into this led to many more centuries going by before math and science could advance much further. Thus, application could not advance much further, either.
    2188) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1740721)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Capt. Hardy puts it at S39 22' 46” E087 6' 20”.

    Captain claims to have pinpointed MH370 crash site

    There is a strong belief in the aviation industry that searchers scouring the southern Indian Ocean for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 may find the Boeing 777 in the next four weeks.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30033110/captain-claims-to-have-pinpointed-mh370-crash-site/

    The plane needs to be found. 239 souls and their family's need closer.


    There are so many ways in life many people do not get closure.
    I suspect that, after a certain amount of time goes by if the plane is not found, citizens are going to tell their representatives, quit spending money on the search. Maybe some private funders would keep the search going?
    2189) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1740720)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NEWS in Croatia:
    http://www.jutarnji.hr/na-filipinima-pronaden-nestali-mh370----otkrila-sam-olupinu-aviona--bila-je-puna-ljudskih-kostura--a-unutra-malezijska-zastava-/1436390/

    MH370 found on Filipini?!
    :/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3269008/Plane-wreckage-containing-skeletons-painted-Malaysian-flag-remote-Philippine-island-fuelling-speculation-MH370.html

    Be very skeptical.


    On average, can human bodies decompose that much, in about 20 months, to be completely down to the skeletons?[/img]
    2190) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1740716)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now here is a good reason for governments to rid themselves of religion.

    Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds
    Children from religious families are less kind and more punitive than those from non-religious households, according to a new study.

    Academics from seven universities across the world studied Christian, Muslim and non-religious children to test the relationship between religion and morality.

    They found that religious belief is a negative influence on children’s altruism.


    I'm surprised they were able to find 27.6% non-religious children around the world. Not because of the numbers, but because they'd find that many parents and children willing to admit it so openly.

    I suspect they did not control for "first generation non-religious" versus two or more generations. Whether this produces any difference in a replication of the study could be interesting.

    Put another way: for millenia, it's been difficult to be a non-believer let alone admit being one and I suspect the percent of non-believers relative to the world population has been very small until the past century. And just where the ... ahem ... h311 ... did the non-believing children come from? Parents that until recently believed or a few generations back non-belief began. Perhaps a fair percentage of those moving to non-belief were those a bit more moral/ethical to begin with, regardless of the influence of religious beliefs on them?
    2191) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1740715)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still wondering if anyone would like to comment on the use of the term "rejection of God" (see the youtube video linked) or otherwise comment on "
    Now, what about others who are not 'friends, family and other loved ones'?"

    Is it always about power? What about the reaction to perceived rejection?

    Believe this video is from a perspective of a certain type of Atheist.

    An Atheist who needs, for some internal reason, to diminish Theists.

    Why some Atheists need to attack Theists rejection, and some Theists need to attack Atheists rejection. Is their individual internal problems.


    There may be truth to your first sentence. I have watched 10-20 of his videos but do not entirely know where he's coming from. Nonetheless, the question is whether there psychological validity to his argument.

    Furthermore, for those atheists that were believers previously, think of the amazing promises made by theists: we can handle, eventually, no Easter Bunny, no Santa, no tooth fairy. But if there's no eternal life as promised (for example), why would someone not be a bit mad at the biggest lie ever told?

    Good question.

    My perspective:

    Leaving out the fear of eternal nothingness (Death). A certain percentage of Humans (perhaps majority), have a need to 'Believe' in something better and greater than themselves.

    We also see this, in Non-Religious - Secular Ideology. People marching and waving Mao's Little Red Book, and Goose Stepping people chanting Sieg Heil.

    How many of these people really Believe. Or, for their personal protection, say they Believe. Is an interesting question.

    I can ask the same question about Religious Cultures.

    As I have said many times. I am an Atheist to both Religion and Ideology. Believing they both serve the same need.


    Upon further reflection, regarding the "author" of the video I provided a link to: I know he can be very sarcastic. I suspect something may have happened that he is at least a bit bitter about.

    I suspect his videos are for those on the edge of agnosticism/atheism or those recently having decided on atheism. Though I may be projecting.

    About a year ago I stumbled on his videos and those of many others: Aron-Ra, Dusty Smith, Jaclyn Glenn, King CrocoDuck, Steve Shives, TheThinkingAtheist and Thunderf00t among them. (Links can be provided.)

    I find it very hard to believe that, whatever their experiences and approaches, that we can simply call everything they say "attacks" and lump them (as Michel has) into the "Dawkins' trolls", Each of them may have some "piece of the truth" (as I say about many of us here, as well). I would rather have the discussions, what's good and bad in what they say? In what we say here? What, if anything, can we agree upon here?
    2192) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1740707)
    Posted 9 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Marxist, Nazi, Progressives, are all the same.

    These self righteous BGH (Better - Greatest - Humans) types have no moral superiority over the similar self-righteous religious believers.

    They all have, and if allowed, always will, inflict human slaughter and enslavement upon humanity. A the religious have done.

    Yes. I do understand the BGH religious. As I understand the non-religious BGH people. Both do believe in their superiority.

    bobby...

    You are not one of them. Are you?


    Is there anyone, through his or her entire life, that has not at least temporarily thought of himself or herself as above another?

    Is it possible that this is just a natural human failing?

    If so, should we worry about everyone we meet or should we be vigilant for the signs from those where that belief is not just temporary?

    In other words, do we need to insist everyone is able to provide proof that they're a card carrying member of the "not a member of those bad groups" group?

    I could provide examples of people posting here that, while they make some strong statements, they really do seem to have thought things through quite a bit and yet basically get called a monster:

    (A) Because of something else said elsewhere, even if on the current topic, there's agreeement.
    (B) Because of disagreement on the current topic, even if there's been at least some agreement elsewhere.
    (C) Because the "I'm not a member of those bad groups" card has not been presented.
    2193) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1739991)
    Posted 5 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ben Carson, Donald Trump Receive Secret Service Protection


    Lynn, I like that you post these things (usually with links) because I like other sources or someone finding out something before I do that I can go learn about. On the other hand, I rarely get a sense of what you think about the news you pass on to us ... ?
    2194) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1739806)
    Posted 5 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did properly prepare.
    Hail Thor and the preparedness of those who hail Thor.


    Oh, mighty Thor. Might it be that your Grand Design Intentions match may plans for tomorrow to be less stressful than most of your recent Thor's Days?
    2195) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1739777)
    Posted 5 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would never advocate voting for someone on the basis of their gender.


    Well of course not, but a lot of people do--which is blatantly sexist. And they are the one's complaining the loudest about sexism in America.

    Actually, it would be better to scrap thousands of pages from the tax code


    Are you actually an American citizen flying a different flag in here to mask your identity? I actually agree with you on this. And the best plan I've heard is from Carly Fiorina. 3 PAGES!

    Meh, I'd start with strengthening the existing regulatory agencies.


    Well, back to disagreeing. Over 4 Million federal employees, almost 500 federal agencies and sub-agencies. When we go into "government shutdown," our "non-essential services" lock their doors and their employees go home. Why are tax payers paying for "non-essential" services? The Donald needs to point his finger at the "non-essential" services and say, "You're Fired!" and then for all agencies and sub-agencies that are duplicating efforts of other agencies and sub-agencies, The Donald needs to point his finger at them, too, and say, "You're Fired!" I'd say that's at least HALF that need to be fired, total, to begin with. And then we could start looking at why the federal government is doing things that need to be pushed down to the states to handle, where authority and responsibility truly belongs.

    Its not a matter of allowing. Face the fact that the US isn't all powerful and that some things can't be solved just like that.


    If we took our gloves off, we could really hurt a lot of bad guys in the middle east.

    Furthermore, cut back on military spending,


    Our military has been in degredation mode for several years now.

    institute better checks on the way defense contracts are awarded,


    Been corrupt since Reagan gave the military so much money, and the democrats tied the hands of the military in how the military spent it. (*MUST SPEND ALL MONEY ALLOCATED WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR*)

    increase funding for NASA dramatically, increase funding for scientific research dramatically,


    Ben Carson wants to fix both of these since the current administration has tried to destroy both of these.

    impose further restrictions on polluting energy, invest and create incentives for states to invest in more green energy, spearhead an effort to turn the economy greener,


    Ya, right. The world runs on petroleum for the time being. We need to free up burning fossil fuels for the time being. Otherwise, we'll probably piss away our *real* chance of surviving a post petroleum based world economy.

    create a new constitutional amendment overturning the Citizens United ruling by the supreme court, if necessary create a constitutional amendment overturning the hobby lobby decision of the Supreme Court, create a constitutional amendment banning any and all mandatory minimum sentences, ban all private prisons, deinvest in the prison system.


    Looks like you are *all* for centralizing all power and control into the hands of the Washington Crime Syndicate and it looks like you are *all* for not encouraging citizens to follow the law. I'm more for the following list of constitutional amendments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Liberty_Amendments

    Eh, yeah that would be my priorities I suppose in an ideal world. However, I'm fully aware that for most of those things I would need a majority in congress and for the constitutional amendments I think I would also need support in at least 2/3 of all the states right? So it would be an uphill battle to even get 5 of those things done.


    The thing that most people are unaware of, such as yourself, is the fact that our federal government hasn't been following the rules at an accelerated pace. If the federal government had been following the rules (and the intent of the founders) all along, we would not be facing the issues we have today.


    Don't begin to dream that seeing a blank in our ignore lists, with not even thing to click on, means we cannot still tell who you are and read your post history (which you can no longer delete and replace with "..." now that you are no longer a mod).
    2196) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1739614)
    Posted 4 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still wondering if anyone would like to comment on the use of the term "rejection of God" (see the youtube video linked) or otherwise comment on "
    Now, what about others who are not 'friends, family and other loved ones'?"

    Is it always about power? What about the reaction to perceived rejection?

    Believe this video is from a perspective of a certain type of Atheist.

    An Atheist who needs, for some internal reason, to diminish Theists.

    Why some Atheists need to attack Theists rejection, and some Theists need to attack Atheists rejection. Is their individual internal problems.


    There may be truth to your first sentence. I have watched 10-20 of his videos but do not entirely know where he's coming from. Nonetheless, the question is whether there psychological validity to his argument.

    Furthermore, for those atheists that were believers previously, think of the amazing promises made by theists: we can handle, eventually, no Easter Bunny, no Santa, no tooth fairy. But if there's no eternal life as promised (for example), why would someone not be a bit mad at the biggest lie ever told?
    2197) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1739164)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As in many cases, I think Bobby answers for himself quite well, but, put another way: given where I understand Bobby to live and work, I think he has many colleagues, acquaintances and friends from many walks of life. Am I correct, Bobby? Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist, etc. ... ?

    It's no secret that I live and work in NYC, and have done since sometime in 1999. I was raised Catholic, as was my partner. We are both atheists.

    In terms of racial background, the apartment building in which we live has a reasonable cross section of NYC residents. During Jewish holidays we frequently get a knock on the door from members of the local orthodox community probably because, even after 8 years of living here, neither my partner nor I have taken the time to remove the Mezuzah that was, presumably, installed by a former resident.

    The neighborhood also has a fairly large Bangladeshi community, and we're close enough to the local mosque to hear the adhan.

    Given that the local populace generally does not walk around with tags indicating which religion they follow, that's probably covers the most visible religious affiliations. I don't doubt that there are a fair number of Christians of various denominations nearby too. There are certainly churches nearby.


    And I can imagine you're friendly with a lot of them.
    I don't recall in 2006-2008 that you put me down for being in the process of Christian to agnostic.
    I doubt you discriminate, period, or do your best not to, on religious or any other grounds.
    2198) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1739125)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said elsewhere (in this thread, I believe) that I was not attempting to meaninglessly debate philosophy. I believe you have turned a point of the discussion into some meaningless tangent. The point was "Could it be that the reason, or one of the reasons, fundamentalists impose Earthly restrictions on others is because they believe they will face punishment in the afterlife otherwise." (This is not a direct quote, as I am not going to waste even more time scrolling back to find my exact words.)

    If thats the question you want answered then the answer is yes, some will undoubtedly think that. An other reason might be that they consider hell to be a real place and simply hate to see friends, family and other loved ones end up there because they haven't accepted Jesus Christ. It can be a blunt, annoying but genuine attempt from their side to help people and save them from eternal damnation.


    Finally, you've given your answer to the question, which was repeated, what, 3 to 5 times?

    Now, what about others who are not "friends, family and other loved ones"?

    And what if those others reject God, or the God as presented to them?


    Still wondering if anyone would like to comment on the use of the term "rejection of God" (see the youtube video linked) or otherwise comment on "
    Now, what about others who are not 'friends, family and other loved ones'?"

    Is it always about power? What about the reaction to perceived rejection?
    2199) Message boards : Politics : KGL9268 crash (Message 1739117)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crash maybe but break apart in mid air !! Unlikely it's Boeing not a plane built in Russia and ISIS has already clamed responsibility . A suicide bomber for shore . We are talking Egypt here not L.A.X or Heathrow so crap security let a suicide bomber get through. Booom in mid air


    Michel is being vigilant. If he hears more (credible) evidence that it was a terrorist act, he may come to believe it. I believe he also was not talking about the manufacture of the plane, but of its maintenance over several years. There have been reports here that crew that had repeatedly flown in the same craft had complained to their spouses about repeated technical/maintenance issues.
    2200) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1739114)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...

    Just one question.

    Since all movements, both religious and secular, have their 'crazies':

    Would you rather have your loved ones, including your women, children, gay friends/family/significant other. Live in an area controlled by the Jihadists, or Christians?

    Many decisions in life, are a choice between Bad and Less Bad.

    Why juxtapose the "crazies" of one religion with the entirety of another?

    bobby...

    I understand that you cannot comprehend that the Jihadists, are not mainstream Islam.

    Since I only noted the "Jihadists", and not of course, Islam:

    Why are you making The Jihadists the "entirety' of Islam.

    I am not making the Jihadists the entirety of Islam, nor am I saying that you did. I am commenting on the choice you provided to Sarge (Jihadists [the "crazies"] or Christians [the entirety of a religion]), and asking why you made that choice.


    I would nor want myself nor them living in the midst of any extremists.

    As I stated, I was raised Lutheran.

    I currently live across the street from a make-shift mosque.

    And I was around many Muslims while in grad school. I spent so much time with some of them that I was welcome to break bread with them, among other things. They knew I had been raised Christian, occasionally told me how they thought when I asked and never tried to convert me that I could ever get even the smallest sense of.

    As in many cases, I think Bobby answers for himself quite well, but, put another way: given where I understand Bobby to live and work, I think he has many colleagues, acquaintances and friends from many walks of life. Am I correct, Bobby? Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist, etc. ... ?

    Edit to add: also, as mentioned, I have conservative friends, some that might be fundamentalists. (They've never used the term to my knowledge, but it might fit. Might.) I continue to be their friends because: we have shared experiences, we have similar likes, we have similar senses of humor, etc. ... . I continue to talk to them about my views (and they to me about theirs) because maybe one day one of us will get the other to see something in a more nuanced way.

    And, because I do not seek power, if one of my friends ever becomes one of those murdering extremists, if I am not the one that is the one to talk them into putting the gun down, I will be one of the first killed instead. OK?
    2201) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1739109)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Translation?

    Rejecting part of something is being viewed as a complete rejection of all of it and, in turn, acceptance of all of the "opposite" not even just part of it.

    Sarge...

    This is what I am attempting (failing so far), to understand about bobby's thinking.

    It appears he rejects most of a Specific Peoples History. Because of their belief in a Deity, Miraculous Events, Superhumans, outright lying, written decades or centuries after the event and personalities depicted.

    All Ancient Peoples History do the same.

    Why the rejection of one, and not the others?


    May I ask a favor? As your time allows, please take a random sample of Bobby's past postings. I suggest 10 from each year Bobby has posted, so about 100 posts? I don't think you're going to get a good enough idea about what he accepts, rejects and takes a more nuanced approached to from just a few posts in one thread. I tried to provide another angle by a link to his posts in Matt Giwer's anti-Semitic thread from about 2 years ago. Bobby provided the best arguments (present) against Matt Giwer's anti-Semitism. You replied when I linked that but I didn't really follow. Seeing a larger picture, I don't think Bobby is the type of person you think he is. I think I can tell fairly well now what you have your guard up against and you are right to have you guard up. But, I have found it best, in my own experience, to always have my guard up, while most people cannot even tell it is up and there is a time to act and there is a time to remain vigilant.
    2202) Message boards : Politics : The Race that Stop a Nation (Message 1739051)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And this is in Politics because ... ?
    2203) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1739049)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby...

    Ain't gonna work. I do understand the technique you use when shown to be incorrect.

    What was shown to be incorrect?

    The open question you cannot answer:

    Why accept the Non-Jewish/Christian Pagan History, with all its incorrect references, and not Jewish/Christian History? It is the same.

    bobby...

    This is a question regarding your assertions.

    Answer, if you can.

    When information is shown to be incongruent with the available evidence, it is my understanding that the appropriate action is to discount that information as factual in nature. Thus I would not propose that anybody accept as a factual account of events the incorrect references in whatever it is you mean by "Non-Jewish/Christian Pagan History", just as I would not propose a person accept such references in "Jewish/Christian History" as a factual account of events.


    It is unclear to me:

    what you mean by acceptance, (e.g. acceptance as fact, vs acceptance as myth)

    what you are classifying as history, (the historicity of people and events, cultural heritage, legends, etc)

    why, in a discussion about historicity, you choose the terms you use.


    Translation?

    Rejecting part of something is being viewed as a complete rejection of all of it and, in turn, acceptance of all of the "opposite" not even just part of it.
    2204) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1739036)
    Posted 2 Nov 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
    Apparently NOT!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

    Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
    What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?

    Gary...

    We do understand you.


    Is not the KKK an extremist Christian group that hs and, to a degree, continues to commit widespread terror?

    Attribution? Including 'the numbers'.

    It is the Extremest Islamist, who are committing these mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities. In The Name of Their Religion.

    Today: What mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities, are being committed in The Name of Christianity? Not just by people who happen to be Christians, Buddhists, etc.

    Sarge...

    You made the comment. Please educate us with 'the numbers'.


    http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront

    Created by former Alabama Klan boss and long-time white supremacist Don Black in 1995, Stormfront was the first major hate site on the Internet.


    ... Southern Poverty Law Center’s exposure of the identity of many Stormfront funders and the fact its registered users have been behind almost 100 murders ...


    http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/kkk/default.html?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=kkk

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism



    http://armyofgod.com/EricRudolphHomepage.html
    2205) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1738446)
    Posted 31 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My personal contribution to the "slash and burn" mentality to fix our government will be to vote for Bernie Sanders in the democrat primary.


    Butus I must say that was a good post and you have surprised me your going to vote "DEM"....!!

    Just remember what you have said as I have been trying to make you see what you have explained so I say remember that the rich are the one's whom screw'd things up so DON'T vote for a rich man .

    Also remember that some of your laws and I think Consitution are some of the problem and will have to be addressed how you do that is up to you .

    It sounds like some of you are learning to stop hearing the B/S said for the press and working out what is wedge politics and how they use it .


    Unfortunately, "Brutus" is very transparent.
    When he was "Guy" and a moderator with past posts (not "..." *), he spoke exactly the same way.
    Back then, he said I was a radical, but so was he and everyone else here.
    Why? Simply because we think about and discuss these things more than the average person? If not that, then what?
    On the basis of us all being radicals, he oft said before no longer being a moderator that we followed Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" when I'm sure a lot of us had no idea who Alinsky was. (Could it simply be that there are natural, predictable options from which we will choose at each branch in a conversation? Apparently not! No, we must be radicals! Following the subversive rules of some "demagogue" we know nothing about yet nonetheless are reading and are slaves to!)
    Why is Brutus, at this moment, transparent?
    Claiming he will vote for Sanders in the Dem primaries.
    Of course, he doesn't want Sanders for President. Maybe, this time, he will succumb to that temptation *(* just as his older posts say "...") ... ohhh, so tempting, probably to so many ... but for him to succumb would be for him to become even more immoral (* as when his older posts turned into "...") ... and if he sinks to that immorality, he will do so in hopes to torpedo and sink any chances the Dems have of winning the Presidency in 2016. Because he hopes there are enough people, like him, who worshiped Joe McCarthy in the 50s ... all socialism is bad ... all socialists are bad (and anyone that really read Marx knows socialism does not lead to communism but vice versa and the idea was that the PEOPLE would be the STATE ... not that we have an existence proof that could actually work) ... enough people that think socialism is so bad that Sanders, if put forward as the Dem candidate, would get completely clobbered.

    So, tell you what "Brutus" ... GUY ... . Why don't you just go ahead and do it? We already know how low you can sink. Want to show us you can sink further? Go ahead. Register as a Democrat. Vote for Sanders in your primary. If it backfires, don't cry to us. If it succeeds. it will be a Pyrrhic victory. You will have sunk even lower and you will know it. And it will be the result of so UN-radical a strategy as to be laughable.

    (* = so far, GUY, you have failed "trust but verify". We have no reason to trust you after what you did before your self-imposed vacation after power corrupted you, because you act the same way under a new moniker.)
    2206) Message boards : Politics : Republican Presidential debates (Message 1738243)
    Posted 30 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just so y'all know, that was probably the first time I watched CNBC. And I've only watched MSNBC, for a few minutes, maybe ... 3 times?
    2207) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1738122)
    Posted 29 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wrong.

    Which part of the World, and what eras, may I be referring to?

    You said you are talking about after Vietnam and given that you said it was against Muslims its somewhere between the Balkans and South East Asia. You also said it was against a guerrilla insurrection. Well, I'm telling you, in this time frame, in this geographical area, the United States has not fought and won from Muslim insurrectionists. The few wars that were fought in that area and that the US actually won have all been against functional states (first Gulf War, Yugoslav War, Libya) meaning it was a conventional war.

    But by all means, do name the conflicts you're talking about.


    Beyond means outside of, not after.

    The dictionary disagrees with you.

    Besides would be 'outside of'.

    Unless you were playfully pointing out Clyde's somewhat dubious use of the English language.


    Please. Stop. This serves nothing. Your own link includes:

    1. Farther along or away.
    2. In addition; more:

    ...

    A place that is remote ...


    So, beyond this side show ("in addition to" and "more than" this side show and "further long" and "away" from this side show) let us return to "a place" of the discussion where the real points are.
    2208) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1738058)
    Posted 29 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wrong.

    Which part of the World, and what eras, may I be referring to?

    You said you are talking about after Vietnam and given that you said it was against Muslims its somewhere between the Balkans and South East Asia. You also said it was against a guerrilla insurrection. Well, I'm telling you, in this time frame, in this geographical area, the United States has not fought and won from Muslim insurrectionists. The few wars that were fought in that area and that the US actually won have all been against functional states (first Gulf War, Yugoslav War, Libya) meaning it was a conventional war.

    But by all means, do name the conflicts you're talking about.


    Beyond means outside of, not after.
    2209) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1737809)
    Posted 28 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What Russia’s Own Videos and Maps Reveal About Who They Are Bombing In Syria
    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2015/10/26/what-russias-own-videos-and-maps-reveal-about-who-they-are-bombing-in-syria/

    Meanwhile...
    Iraqi Parliament May Discuss Request for Russian Military Aid This Week
    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151027/1029170437/iraq-parliament-russian-military-aid.html#ixzz3pm7sZiWA
    Russia and Iraq, alongside Iran and Syria, created the Baghdad Information Center to coordinate military actions against the ISIL extremist group in late September.
    So when will Russia start military actions against the ISIL extremist group?

    When Putin believes it is in Russia's best interest.
    My hope.
    That neither Assad, nor Iran, understand that Putin has no friends.
    Just temporary allies. To be destroyed when/if he wins.

    Mayby Donald Trump will become friend with Putin:)
    At very least thats what Russian media says.
    Wait a Second, Trump is Actually Right on Russian Airstrikes in Syria.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20151027/1029181676/donald-trump-russian-airstrikes-syria.html#ixzz3pmRsKwhs

    He is correct.

    Should have been The West.

    However... Western Europe's 'influence'. Meaning capable of using extreme, and effective force (killing civilians, as is always necessary to win a war), is nonexistent.

    The USA is unwilling to use the force necessary to win.

    Putin isn't.


    Kasparov claims Putin is a lot of bluster and doesn't actually have a strong hand. So, Syria could become Russia's second Afghanistan? We might not learn, but it seems USSR/now Russia might not learn from the past, either.
    2210) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737303)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Thought that might be it.

    Returning to the above, so, what about John Nash's "zero sum"? Does that play into any of this?

    I am not familiar with that, although I have heard of it. Are you suggesting that religious belief could fall under the auspices of Game Theory?


    Quite the opposite. That the universe plays a zero sum game.
    2211) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737270)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the meantime, I didn't read the link.
    One might be surprised at how little science I had to take at the Bachelor's degree level.
    So, since it's been so many years since I had Physics, I could only look at it mathematically and then ask "is there a rate and, if so, a constant or an average?"

    You did statistics though. Entropy is a statistical calculation, so like any statistical calculation there can be apparent regions of order while the disorder of the entire system is increasing.


    In the end, yes, quite a bit of Stats, learning it and teaching it.
    So, is there an average rate?

    Off the top of my head, the entropy of a system is calculated by the formula S= KBln(Omega). S (or entropy) is the number of possible ways the states of a system can be arranged and Omega is the number of states. KB is Boltzmann's constant. So you are just working out all the probable ways a system can be arranged. The more disorder, the more different arrangements there are. It is basically a statistical analysis of the probability of any one state being possible.

    And can someone please remind me how this fits in to the thread topic?


    Someone trotted out the old Intelligent Design argument about life breaking the law of Entropy thus proving the existence of a Designer.


    Thought that might be it.

    Returning to the above, so, what about John Nash's "zero sum"? Does that play into any of this?
    2212) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737259)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the meantime, I didn't read the link.
    One might be surprised at how little science I had to take at the Bachelor's degree level.
    So, since it's been so many years since I had Physics, I could only look at it mathematically and then ask "is there a rate and, if so, a constant or an average?"

    You did statistics though. Entropy is a statistical calculation, so like any statistical calculation there can be apparent regions of order while the disorder of the entire system is increasing.


    In the end, yes, quite a bit of Stats, learning it and teaching it.
    So, is there an average rate?

    And can someone please remind me how this fits in to the thread topic?
    2213) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737243)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could it be that atoms organizing into a life form, and then our attempts to organize our lives into schedules and tidy homes are what he thinks delays entropy? Could it be that our efforts simply speed up entropy elsewhere in the universe? In other words, is there a rate at which entropy is supposed to occur? Is it a constant or an average? If it is an average, then increasing organization in one locality would lead to decreasing organization in another neighborhood. Maybe?

    That's what the link I provided earlier was intended to show. I was told the linked page was read and afterwards the "life violates the 2nd law" claim remained.

    My "claim" was only that there is a LOCAL decrease in entropy when it comes to life — while at the same time the TOTAL entropy increases.
    Is there some other physical laws that behave in the same manner?
    Gravity? Don't think so.


    My attempts to decrease my own entropy might be sapping the life from a 90 year old in Japan, or a walrus?
    2214) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737242)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I read the link.
    The second law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems.
    It's very hard to find closed systems in our universe.
    Some even belive that our universe is part of a multiverse.
    The WMAP image suggest that there is a birth mark on it from the time our universe was connected to an other universe.

    Related data? The 2nd law would probably rule even without universal expansion. But the expansion makes the disorder from order faster.

    "I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ..." :)

    If you still believe that life violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics then I can only conclude that we have different ideas of what that law states.

    How can we have different ideas of what that law states?
    I know that the 2nd law will win in the end eventually.
    I think it's very strange though that we can discuss it and even come to some conclusions.

    Strange indeed, though you appear to suggest that life has some means to delay the onset of increasing entropy, there is nothing in the 2nd law as I understand it that permits a delaying mechanism to exist. Thus we have a different idea of what the law states.


    Could it be that atoms organizing into a life form, and then our attempts to organize our lives into schedules and tidy homes are what he thinks delays entropy? Could it be that our efforts simply speed up entropy elsewhere in the universe? In other words, is there a rate at which entropy is supposed to occur? Is it a constant or an average? If it is an average, then increasing organization in one locality would lead to decreasing organization in another neighborhood. Maybe?

    That's what the link I provided earlier was intended to show. I was told the linked page was read and afterwards the "life violates the 2nd law" claim remained.


    In the meantime, I didn't read the link.
    One might be surprised at how little science I had to take at the Bachelor's degree level.
    So, since it's been so many years since I had Physics, I could only look at it mathematically and then ask "is there a rate and, if so, a constant or an average?"
    2215) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1737179)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said elsewhere (in this thread, I believe) that I was not attempting to meaninglessly debate philosophy. I believe you have turned a point of the discussion into some meaningless tangent. The point was "Could it be that the reason, or one of the reasons, fundamentalists impose Earthly restrictions on others is because they believe they will face punishment in the afterlife otherwise." (This is not a direct quote, as I am not going to waste even more time scrolling back to find my exact words.)

    If thats the question you want answered then the answer is yes, some will undoubtedly think that. An other reason might be that they consider hell to be a real place and simply hate to see friends, family and other loved ones end up there because they haven't accepted Jesus Christ. It can be a blunt, annoying but genuine attempt from their side to help people and save them from eternal damnation.


    Finally, you've given your answer to the question, which was repeated, what, 3 to 5 times?

    Now, what about others who are not "friends, family and other loved ones"?

    And what if those others reject God, or the God as presented to them?
    2216) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737087)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2217) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737063)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then please demonstrate to us how it does not fit in with the things you are discussing here, while it does fit in to the context of wherever the post was before. Your move.
    2218) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1737060)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Мишель, you don't quite understand. Fundamentalists have their own personal bible. It isn't one you can buy and read. It tells them the order in which everything is sacred. Being an anti-gay bigot isn't quite as sacred as proving a male prostitute is a gay male prostitute and should be stoned.

    Well no, that was my point all along. Sarge claims that fundamentalist *should* find the free will of other people sacred as he claims its a gift from God, I'm saying that fundamentalists (as well as the bible itself) don't look at free will that way.


    As I have stated before, I defend the right of people to be believers and there several posts I make to that effect from 2006-2008 in particular. (I also defended the right to be a non-believer, even though at that time I was agnostic and thought there was a possibility that something might possibly sway me back.)

    Мишель, at this point in time you seem to often fill that same role, attempting the right to be a believer. (Let's battle over who defends that right better, ha ha!)

    At first, I thought you might be a Christian. As you have posted more, I suspect you are not, but you do believe in a God of some sort. (You have that right.) But, if you have not been and are not now a Christian, and did not know that I was (specifically, a Lutheran), then I believe your ability to speak for those of the Abrahamic faiths is limited.

    I said elsewhere (in this thread, I believe) that I was not attempting to meaninglessly debate philosophy. I believe you have turned a point of the discussion into some meaningless tangent. The point was "Could it be that the reason, or one of the reasons, fundamentalists impose Earthly restrictions on others is because they believe they will face punishment in the afterlife otherwise." (This is not a direct quote, as I am not going to waste even more time scrolling back to find my exact words.)

    One more attempt and that's it:

    Granted, some do not believe in free will. Some of those also believe they are God's chosen and therefore they could never do anything wrong in God's eyes. Fine. Whatever. Leave them out of the discussion.

    There are others that believe in free will. Some of them are Christians. (Quite a lot, I believe. Here, in the US, a small percent that do not believe in it are called Calvinists.)

    For those that believe in free will, Christian or some other religion that believes in a Supreme Being that created them, where else could they believe their free will comes from??? If it comes from God, how could it be anything other than sacred or some suitably similar word?

    Of course, those of the Abrahamio faiths believe God gave them the 10 Commandments. In that set of belief systems, then, yes, of course God has his will for us and our behaviors. And we know that, according to that set of belief systems, how that turned out: God had not created robots that mindlessly obeyed. They did not always obey and we know the stories of how God responded to those instances.

    http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/C_2c.html

    The "repeating cycle of 'acceptance and rejection'" of God mentioned in the above link is not something I learned of today, but years ago because I was raised as a Christian.

    Indeed, how can there be any meaningful judgement of humans by God if we are not given the choice to follow His rules or not?

    To further my claim, I point out that I heard a few years ago the etymology of Israel is "against God".

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Israel

    Israel
    Old English, "the Jewish people, the Hebrew nation," from Latin Israel, from Greek, from Hebrew yisra'el "he that striveth with God" (Gen. xxxii.28), symbolic proper name conferred on Jacob and extended to his descendants, from sara "he fought, contended" + El "God." As the name of an independent Jewish state in the Middle East, it is attested from 1948. Compare Israeli, Israelite.


    Perhaps other interpretations are possible, but it does look like it could mean "has fought against God", as part of the historical cycle of acceptance and rejection of God. Anyone raised as a Christian that paid the slightest bit of attention knows that, without looking at the first link I provided, the Israelites had the ability to choose and, if a choice was made that God didn't like, they believe God punished them directly or allowed them to face hardships. They made those choices despite believing they were God's chosen people. If they could make choices against God's will, they had free will.

    I can't think of a single thing you've said here that isn't just nit-picking word choices. I still think my question and suggested answer is an interesting one: "Could it be that the reason, or one of the reasons, fundamentalists impose Earthly restrictions on others is because they believe they will face punishment in the afterlife otherwise."

    Others have suggested other reasons, such as enjoying having power over others, including you (by pointing to the Old Testament). Speaking of the Old Testament:

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-17.htm

    Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


    (NIV = New International Version.)

    For those that do believe in free will that also believe in God, particularly, the Christian God (again) where else could they believe their free will has come from? If they believe in free will and are Christians, where does it say that only they were given it?

    Again, nothing you've said here has stopped me from thinking, for those Christians that believe they have free will that also seek to inhibit the free will of others in instances that are not causing immediate dangers, that they are going against God in doing so. In the Abrahamic set of belief systems, God has His will, then let's his people choose to either accept or reject Him and the rules of life He puts forward and He reacts in the manner He sees fit when his rules are rejected.

    As for some terms Clyde has recently used, "tolerant" and "intolerant":

    1) That exists on both sides.
    2) Thus, it is no surprise, since Christianity and other religions have been around far far longer, that if they have often showed intolerance (and some continue to do so) that some atheists show intolerance in return.
    3) Most people posting here that have admitted being atheist state that they were not raised this way, but were raised Christian.
    4) I suspect that they, as I, have family members, loved ones and friends that are Christian. It's a bit hard to lob around the term intolerant in that case, as I imagine most of them have remained close to family members, loved ones and friends. Even fundamentalist friends.
    2219) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1737051)
    Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I read the link.
    The second law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems.
    It's very hard to find closed systems in our universe.
    Some even belive that our universe is part of a multiverse.
    The WMAP image suggest that there is a birth mark on it from the time our universe was connected to an other universe.

    Related data? The 2nd law would probably rule even without universal expansion. But the expansion makes the disorder from order faster.

    "I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ..." :)

    If you still believe that life violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics then I can only conclude that we have different ideas of what that law states.

    How can we have different ideas of what that law states?
    I know that the 2nd law will win in the end eventually.
    I think it's very strange though that we can discuss it and even come to some conclusions.

    Strange indeed, though you appear to suggest that life has some means to delay the onset of increasing entropy, there is nothing in the 2nd law as I understand it that permits a delaying mechanism to exist. Thus we have a different idea of what the law states.


    Could it be that atoms organizing into a life form, and then our attempts to organize our lives into schedules and tidy homes are what he thinks delays entropy? Could it be that our efforts simply speed up entropy elsewhere in the universe? In other words, is there a rate at which entropy is supposed to occur? Is it a constant or an average? If it is an average, then increasing organization in one locality would lead to decreasing organization in another neighborhood. Maybe?
    2220) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1736702)
    Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is not "in my eyes" (not that we have it nor, if we do, where it came from). They believe they and all humans have free will and that it comes from the God they believe in. Choosing to dominate others is a choice they have due to their "free will", but then that goes against the very choice "He" gave others (the ones being dominated) as well. In so doing, they violate "His" will.

    No, they don't violate "His" will because "He" never made it clear that it is "His" will that you don't use your free will to impose your beliefs onto other people and thereby restricting their free will. Again, God himself has on numerous occasions demanded the utter destruction of people who used their free will to worship a different God.

    And clearly God quite from the start intended to put certain restrictions on free will. The Ten Commandments are proof of that as they clearly restrict what you can and can't do. And usually the punishment for violating such restrictions was death. Just think of the tale of the stick gatherer who was stoned to death for working on the wrong day. Sure, you could argue that God gave that person free will to do whatever he likes, including gathering firewood on whatever day he likes, and that the people who killed that guy on Gods orders ignored that person's free will. But again, God commanded that the guy got executed, thereby setting a rather clear precedent that its totally acceptable for his followers to ignore other peoples free will.

    Your entire argument rests on the idea that God at some point said that peoples free will is sacred and should never be violated by anyone, but that idea is nowhere present in the old testament, which happens to be the testament fundamentalists like the most.


    So, you think fundamentalists believe that there are things that come from God that are not sacred? Hmmm. Ummm, yeah, but no.
    2221) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1736610)
    Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It must give you atheists a nice, warm fuzzy feeling to huddle together, here in the darkness, nodding in agreement among each other and acknowledging to each other that we are here, all alone. Nothing but the product of randomness in the vastness of space. A series of lucky rolls of the dice to lead us to "think, therefore we are... but why?" And then conclude that we all eat, reproduce and then die--all for no reason. A blink of an eye on a cosmic scale, then we vanish, cease, extinguish--back into nothingness.

    Ah... Feels good to come to that conclusion, doesn't it?

    I've never heard a better description about the belief of religion as you have just offered. Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to believe in the mythical man in the sky who will make it all better.

    psycosis: noun: a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

    BTW there is a reason we eat, reproduce and die: entropy.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGC_FE-pr_w
    2222) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1736603)
    Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is quite simple.
    Certain people believe God gave them free will. Not just them. All humans.
    Setting up laws against certain actions, actions which do not create Earthly dangers or at least immediate ones, restricts the free will of others. God says, essentially, "I give you free will. Choose. Live your way or live by my rules and have eternal life. But, go ahead and live your way for now if that's what you like." Some of his followers say, "No, we're going to make you live our way which we believe is God's way."
    They attempt to nullify the choice offered by their own Most High.
    It is quite simple.
    Don't want to call it a paradox?
    It's still a heck of a big conundrum.

    Sorry, I was on a holiday break the past week.

    Anyways, no thats not a paradox. Again, people supposedly have free will, so why is it either a conundrum or a paradox to use that free will to try and dominate other people? Its a valid choice, although other people may consider you a horrible person for making that choice.

    If the problem is that they try to restrict the free will of others while free will is in your eyes a divine gift...well, at least according to the bible god itself never really bothered with it either. There are dozens of stories of him punishing people for making a choice God didn't like. He had his followers slaughter entire tribes of people because they worshiped the wrong Gods. Clearly to some religious fundamentalists, especially the ones that excessively focus on the old testament, have a good cause to think their God is fine with them imposing their will on others.


    It is not "in my eyes" (not that we have it nor, if we do, where it came from). They believe they and all humans have free will and that it comes from the God they believe in. Choosing to dominate others is a choice they have due to their "free will", but then that goes against the very choice "He" gave others (the ones being dominated) as well. In so doing, they violate "His" will.
    2223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1736341)
    Posted 23 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, I didn't expect that!. Many thanks for the win, Michael and for the congrats.

    OK everyone, try this one for size. I hope it hasn't been shown yet...




    "Hey, Han Solo, I ain't gonna be fur for your hurt friend Skywalker. Go find a Tauntaun, why don't you? Come one step closer and I'll ..."
    2224) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1736301)
    Posted 23 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since nobody has mentioned it yet HAPPY THOR'S DAY
    Hail Thor and his colorful ways

    Up with Thor Pride!

    As long that everyone is happy:)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk_Vu6AcbWg

    Lengi lifi Þór:)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=372436tJiaM
    2225) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736278)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's possible.
    I believe it's 1 of about 3 ways things could've gone down.
    I wonder if it being a charade ever even crossed his mind but he was too afraid to think more about that, let alone speak it aloud.

    Considering what the church did only a few years later to an astronomer, he likely understood that some things simply could never be expressed if you valued life.


    Clearly, others in that era did stand up against them.
    2226) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736273)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade?

    He didn't believe that.

    He would readily admit to "The Sins" of his Church, the Priests, and Parishioners, by saying in different ways: 'We (meaning all people in his Church), including The Holy Father, are sinners'.

    But, he believed the Church's Theology (Not Organization) was True. He separated the two. And never, excepting by example, attempted to 'convert' me. He did understand me.

    He was a very intelligent, and good man. He recently 'Passed'.

    If his beliefs have some validity: I know where he is.


    I was referring to Luther and his reaction to (among other things), "Bread thou art and bread thou shall remain."

    Oh.

    Perhaps Luther's belief was similar to my Father 'C'. Believing in The Foundational Theology. But believing the Roman Catholic Church was heretical in its actions.


    That's possible.
    I believe it's 1 of about 3 ways things could've gone down.
    I wonder if it being a charade ever even crossed his mind but he was too afraid to think more about that, let alone speak it aloud.
    2227) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736259)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade?

    He didn't believe that.

    He would readily admit to "The Sins" of his Church, the Priests, and Parishioners, by saying in different ways: 'We (meaning all people in his Church), including The Holy Father, are sinners'.

    But, he believed the Church's Theology (Not Organization) was True. He separated the two. And never, excepting by example, attempted to 'convert' me. He did understand me.

    He was a very intelligent, and good man. He recently 'Passed'.

    If his beliefs have some validity: I know where he is.


    I was referring to Luther and his reaction to (among other things), "Bread thou art and bread thou shall remain."
    2228) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1736247)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since nobody has mentioned it yet HAPPY THOR'S DAY
    Hail Thor and his colorful ways


    Up with Thor Pride!
    2229) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736221)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My thought is, what stopped him from going beyond simply thinking it was due to a corrupt Catholic church? What stopped him from going a step further, from thinking maybe the whole thing was a big charade?
    2230) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736105)
    Posted 22 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Steve...

    Sorry for the delay. Having trouble with a new computer.

    The more you learn, the more you learn that it's more to learn:)

    100% Janne.


    Any thoughts on what I posted regarding Luther's trip to Rome?
    2231) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736024)
    Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://helios.augustana.edu/~ew/des/illustrated-articles/su21.html

    In October 1510 Luther, the pious monk, arose from his bunk at the Augustinian monastery in Erfurt, located in central Germany, and prepared himself for a journey of 850 miles south on foot to the eternal city of Rome.


    http://www.answers.com/Q/What_did_Martin_Luther_witness_in_Rome_that_upset_him

    Some of the Italian clergy however were flippantly unbelieving and would address the sacrament saying "Bread thou art and bread thou wilt remain." To a devout believer from the unsophisticated Northland such disclosures were truly shocking.


    If true, one wonders:

    1) Were they just jerks, but believers?
    2) Or, were they non-believers? If so, why were they priests? What did they know (if anything) that they weren't telling the followers?!?

    For I think over 200 years, the public wasn't aloud to read the scriptures, as they were so full of holes, that a 10 year old could see through them. It was only much later, after many changes and the convention of keeping this as orthodox, and discarding that as heresy, would they make the scriptures available for some of the public to read. For the most part, they were intentionally deceived, and that is still true today.

    Steve


    Did you mean not allowed for 1500 years?

    Thought experiment: if those priests actually were believers, still, what did they know that made them make that joke about the bread?
    2232) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1736016)
    Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://helios.augustana.edu/~ew/des/illustrated-articles/su21.html

    In October 1510 Luther, the pious monk, arose from his bunk at the Augustinian monastery in Erfurt, located in central Germany, and prepared himself for a journey of 850 miles south on foot to the eternal city of Rome.


    http://www.answers.com/Q/What_did_Martin_Luther_witness_in_Rome_that_upset_him

    Some of the Italian clergy however were flippantly unbelieving and would address the sacrament saying "Bread thou art and bread thou wilt remain." To a devout believer from the unsophisticated Northland such disclosures were truly shocking.


    If true, one wonders:

    1) Were they just jerks, but believers?
    2) Or, were they non-believers? If so, why were they priests? What did they know (if anything) that they weren't telling the followers?!?
    2233) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1735838)
    Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Religion is a mental disease.
    Many educated,intelligent people believe in religion.
    Many educated,intelligent people are mentally ill.
    They are afflicted with the SWI syndrome.
    Selective Willful Ignorance.

    Correct.

    The same as Secular Marxism.

    I am using Einstein's definition of insanity.


    Sigh.
    As Einstein did not study the mind, this quote (or purported quote) may very well not be a good one to keep quoting. What it describes is neuroses, which pales in comparison to the mental illness Wayne La Pierre mentioned after Sandy Hook yet apparently has never really spear-headed a conversation about since.

    And what "Admiral Dave" refers to falls short of mental illness as well.
    It has been demonstrated people can hold two conflicting ideas at the same time within their minds. We know that acceleration due to gravity is a constant (and that in most cases something like air resistance will make little difference). Despite this, ask a lot of people and they'll say a bowling ball, dropped from the same height as a baseball, will hit the ground first. I believe it was Howard Gardner and Emma Laskin that analyzed/discussed this at great length. Not once did they call it a "mental illness", but a conflict of the educated mind with the "five year old mind" within the same person.

    Quit throwing the term "mental illness" around so blithely,
    2234) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1735825)
    Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe this will answer some of them.

    Infinity.
    A Fable by David L. Nelson

    Two beings, unknown too each other, sat on a bench on planet Earth, each in deep thought. For hours in silence they thought. Then one broke the silence. Why is there something rather than nothing he asked? I think, she replied that we will never know the answer to that question. They parted, never too meet again.

    Billions of years passed. The Sun became a red giant and vaporized the Earth, went super nova and destroyed the solar system. The Milky Way evaporated. The Universe took no notice.

    In a trillion years or so, in a galaxy very much like the Milky Way, out of a huge cloud of dust, perhaps containing some molecules from the old Milky Way, a new solar system formed. Under the force of gravity the cloud collapsed and a new star came into being. Wisps of dust that escaped the initial collapse took up orbits around the star and evolved into planets. On one of these, perhaps the third from the star, the laws of nature allowed evolution, guided by natural selection, to bring forth life. In time this life evolved into an intelligent species.

    And two beings, unknown too each other, sat on a bench···


    Having now posted that about 3 times, though several days apart, your behavior borders on ... .
    2235) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1735823)
    Posted 21 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What conclusions? It does not seem to me that I an very much out of line with the majority of the other posters on this thread. I will be happy answer specific questions.


    Come now. Surely you remember things you post within 1 or 2 says that are specific statements.

    Religion is a mental disease.
    Many educated,intelligent people believe in religion.
    Many educated,intelligent people are mentally ill.
    They are afflicted with the SWI syndrome.
    Selective Willful Ignorance.
    2236) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1735612)
    Posted 20 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Total White: 244,253,000
    Whites in poverty: 31,089,000 (12.7%)
    Total Black: 41,112,000
    Blacks in poverty: 10,755,000 (26.2%)


    26.2% / 12.7% ~ 2.063 = 206.3% times more likely to be in poverty?

    Therefore: 73.8% of Black Americans, are not in poverty.

    It is not, excepting those who stereotype: Race.

    What is the 73.8% doing right?

    What is the 26.2% doing wrong?

    What can the 26.2% learn from the 73.8%?


    The Far Right will ask "what are the 26.2% doing wrong?" The Far Left will ask "what is Society doing to the 26,2%?"

    The independent will say "I think you'll find it's more complicated than that" and ask "What's the balance of the competing forces?"
    2237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Scammer Alert!!! Phone number 99999423575 (Message 1735607)
    Posted 20 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not recall a phone call about this scam, but when I get a crank or scam call, I treat them to something like the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1GyPLQmdec.
    2238) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1735568)
    Posted 20 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I understand that Marmot desires to ask me some questions?

    At your service.


    Just about everybody does, regardless of where they stand.
    What brought you to these conclusions?
    2239) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1735566)
    Posted 20 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Total White: 244,253,000
    Whites in poverty: 31,089,000 (12.7%)
    Total Black: 41,112,000
    Blacks in poverty: 10,755,000 (26.2%)


    26.2% / 12.7% ~ 2.063 = 206.3% times more likely to be in poverty?
    2240) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1735504)
    Posted 19 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see both numbers of people and percents in Kong's post, then Kong only compares via the numbers of people and not via the percents. This is not a typical Kong post. I expect honesty from Kong, even if I don't agree with him.
    2241) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1735063)
    Posted 18 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been wondering if it's ever useful to discuss Jesus or religion on boards such as this for the Backfire Effect seems to come into play and the only end result is to harden everyone's initial stance.

    So why try?

    This would make an interesting new thread.


    My guess is that pretty much every human being can be susceptible to this. I think a lot will say "Ah ha!" At least, at first. However, there must be a portion of humanity that will eventually say "What? Wait a minute ... !" Otherwise, how would this phenomenon be recognized, observed & analyzed? I do be most of us posting here will often say the second thing. Part of my evidence is for this is people here changing how they speak to each other.
    2242) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1734905)
    Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've never heard anyone cast doubts on the accounts of Josephus, except for the paragraph about Jesus. Are the other writings of Josephus generally accepted?
    2243) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1734838)
    Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only asked why the existence of Jesus, or his reported sayings. Should be held to a higher standard, than others in History.

    Really simple.


    About a month ago I suggested:

    By all means start a separate thread on these matters. Discussion of them in this one would appear to be off topic.


    I don't see those threads, yet you continue with this line of inquiry. Perhaps you could provide the names of some of the other historical figures are held to a lower standard when it comes to questions of existence, and someone else can start threads on them for you.

    bobby...

    Your, as others, non-answer, to inconvenient questions. Regarding the assertions of another Poster. Who states he has great knowledge of Biblical History.

    Question #1 - What is the difference between Accepted Secular (with their own Gods and Beliefs) History, and Biblical references?

    Question #2 - Why is the above accepted, and the other (with their own God and Beliefs) not?

    Any answers?


    I suggest a secular figure:
    Helen of Troy.
    Certainly, there was doubt she existed or that Troy itself ever existed. Correct? Now we have evidence, via Heinrich Schliemann, that Troy did exist. (I have heard that Schliemann's method were, however, decried.) Does this say much else about the works of Homer? Do we now believe in the Olympian gods and goddesses as well?
    Am I incorrect that, for a long time, Helen of Troy was not an accepted secular figure?

    That is correct, and as you noted, the very existence of Troy.

    As I have stated many times. I am an atheist. However, this does not mean that a peoples historical history (The Bible), must be denied because of their belief in a Deity.

    This unthinking, or perhaps Anti-Jewish/Christian bigotry. If applied to Non-Biblical History. Would render all history, as false.

    Do they really believe that?


    I have no reason to doubt some deny Jesus' existence, or that of other Biblical figures (such as Moses) based simply on bigotry and rigid ideology.

    However, around the time you first entered the politics forum (I see you posted occasionally in the Cafe and mostly number crunching until about 2 years ago), there was this: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72926&sort_style=5&start=75. Please do note that it was Bobby who worked hardest against the anti-Semitism of Matt Giwer. I did what I could, probably as a dilettante.
    2244) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1734809)
    Posted 17 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nonetheless, I have provided a secular figure. One that the existence, or non-existence, of does not depend on whether that figure was mentioned in the Old or New Testament. One whose existence has been doubted.
    2245) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1734695)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When does it become "mass" murder?
    10? 20? 100? 1000?
    2246) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1734694)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
    Apparently NOT!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

    Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
    What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?

    Gary...

    We do understand you.


    Is not the KKK an extremist Christian group that hs and, to a degree, continues to commit widespread terror?

    Attribution? Including 'the numbers'.

    It is the Extremest Islamist, who are committing these mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities. In The Name of Their Religion.

    Today: What mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities, are being committed in The Name of Christianity? Not just by people who happen to be Christians, Buddhists, etc.

    Sarge...

    You made the comment. Please educate us with 'the numbers'.


    http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront

    Created by former Alabama Klan boss and long-time white supremacist Don Black in 1995, Stormfront was the first major hate site on the Internet.


    ... Southern Poverty Law Center’s exposure of the identity of many Stormfront funders and the fact its registered users have been behind almost 100 murders ...


    http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/kkk/default.html?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=kkk

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
    2247) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1734684)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only asked why the existence of Jesus, or his reported sayings. Should be held to a higher standard, than others in History.

    Really simple.


    About a month ago I suggested:

    By all means start a separate thread on these matters. Discussion of them in this one would appear to be off topic.


    I don't see those threads, yet you continue with this line of inquiry. Perhaps you could provide the names of some of the other historical figures are held to a lower standard when it comes to questions of existence, and someone else can start threads on them for you.

    bobby...

    Your, as others, non-answer, to inconvenient questions. Regarding the assertions of another Poster. Who states he has great knowledge of Biblical History.

    Question #1 - What is the difference between Accepted Secular (with their own Gods and Beliefs) History, and Biblical references?

    Question #2 - Why is the above accepted, and the other (with their own God and Beliefs) not?

    Any answers?


    I suggest a secular figure:
    Helen of Troy.
    Certainly, there was doubt she existed or that Troy itself ever existed. Correct? Now we have evidence, via Heinrich Schliemann, that Troy did exist. (I have heard that Schliemann's method were, however, decried.) Does this say much else about the works of Homer? Do we now believe in the Olympian gods and goddesses as well?
    Am I incorrect that, for a long time, Helen of Troy was not an accepted secular figure?
    2248) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1734664)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
    Apparently NOT!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

    Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
    What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?

    Gary...

    We do understand you.


    Is not the KKK an extremist Christian group that hs and, to a degree, continues to commit widespread terror?
    2249) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1734663)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No Adding To Discussion Here! ROTFLMAO. I Say mO in One Sentence, than All dA Brainiac Verbiage in Pages Upon Pages of Massive Waste of Edu & Exp. Da Endless Game Between Swollen Skulls Is A Game of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Yep Yup fO shOProject donor


    Adams, Franklin, Jefferson ... darned Brainiacs. Yeah, keep hatin' on we country boys dat raised ourselves up by oUr Boot stRaps. Yep, fo sho.

    Sarge...

    'Dull' is not stupid. He may be other things. But, don't underestimate him. He is counting on others stupidly.

    'Dull' is playing a very interesting game. Seeing who will enter, and fall for it.

    Apparently, you have.


    Or haven't I? :)
    2250) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1734641)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No Adding To Discussion Here! ROTFLMAO. I Say mO in One Sentence, than All dA Brainiac Verbiage in Pages Upon Pages of Massive Waste of Edu & Exp. Da Endless Game Between Swollen Skulls Is A Game of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Yep Yup fO shOProject donor


    Adams, Franklin, Jefferson ... darned Brainiacs. Yeah, keep hatin' on we country boys dat raised ourselves up by oUr Boot stRaps. Yep, fo sho.
    2251) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1734620)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked if we are given free will (presuming the existence of the [Christian] God), how is it so many fundamentalists seek so often at so many levels to interfere with the free will of others? Particularly when the acts they condemn do not create Earthly emergencies, such as robbery, rape and murder do create.

    A paradox happens when two statements are both true and mutually exclusive. The original paradox, namely we have free will and God is omniscient is a paradox because it would appear that having free will and having someone know everything we do before we know it are things that are supposedly mutually exclusive, yet both are also regarded as true.

    Your question is not at all a paradox ...


    I know what a paradox is.
    There is no need, in this current portion of the discussion, to discuss whether there exists a supernatural being and whether that being exists paradox free.
    We face them.
    If you feel the word "conundrum" suits what is being described better, then go ahead and use that instead and focus on the question.

    ... because having free will and then using that free will to try and impose your views/will onto others is not at all mutually exclusive. Nor is it hypocritical or otherwise against the Christian teachings. There is no command in the bible that says you shall not try to impose your views onto others. In fact, in some parts its quite the opposite, basically saying 'convert or die' (mostly the old testament, which happens to be the testament most fundamentalist Christians like the most).


    It is quite simple.
    Certain people believe God gave them free will. Not just them. All humans.
    Setting up laws against certain actions, actions which do not create Earthly dangers or at least immediate ones, restricts the free will of others. God says, essentially, "I give you free will. Choose. Live your way or live by my rules and have eternal life. But, go ahead and live your way for now if that's what you like." Some of his followers say, "No, we're going to make you live our way which we believe is God's way."
    They attempt to nullify the choice offered by their own Most High.
    It is quite simple.
    Don't want to call it a paradox?
    It's still a heck of a big conundrum.
    2252) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1734561)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3) If talking about whether or not someone will burn in hell for eternity if they follow the law based on a God that exists outside of space and time and is immune to paradoxes is not philosophy, then what is it?

    What law would a Christian not be following by permitting others to marry?


    And let's consider answers both from the point of view of Earthly laws and "God's" laws. (The latter being my question.)
    2253) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1734532)
    Posted 16 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But to try to narrow my comment down to what you've presented, all I see are philosophical debates about free will and whether or not someone will burn in hell for eternity if they follow the law based on a God that exists outside of space and time and is immune to paradoxes. (?)


    Whether you did not read the other posts or are feigning ignorance, I do not know.

    This is not philosophy. It was Michel that brought up (much as I.D. did about 2 years ago) that God exists outside of time and space and is immune to paradoxes (such as how can He both be omniscient and give us free will). I brought those points up merely to tie together other discussions in this or similar threads and to make the point that we are not God(s), so the paradoxes Michel claims God is immune to does not apply to us: we are faced with paradoxes. As I elaborated, Clyde found it an interesting point.

    I asked if we are given free will (presuming the existence of the [Christian] God), how is it so many fundamentalists seek so often at so many levels to interfere with the free will of others? Particularly when the acts they condemn do not create Earthly emergencies, such as robbery, rape and murder do create.

    Kim Davis is a special case. I'll admit she's kinda weird. I'm sure there are many, many other county clerks who experienced conflict of conscience but they never made the news because they found ways to work around the federal government dictate that all county clerks will issue same-sex marriage certificates. I'm sure there was a way for Kim Davis to around it.


    How is it you think mentioning her name means you addressed the question "if we are given free will (presuming the existence of the [Christian] God), how is it so many fundamentalists seek so often at so many levels to interfere with the free will of others? Particularly when the acts they condemn do not create Earthly emergencies, such as robbery, rape and murder do create."

    ???

    I'm not going to quibble over whether I asked "fundamentalists" or a particular "fundamentalist" such as Kim Davis. I would have been at least somewhat satisfied with a reason or the reasons Kim Davis felt the matter was so important, both in an immediate Earthly sense as well as for her eternal soul and the eternal soul of others to deny marriage licenses. (Again, this is not philosophy. Her action, or inaction, based on her beliefs, had an impact on the lives of many.)

    All you did was mention her name and state workarounds were possible. How does that answer the question?

    It's just another struggle for absolute power.


    Clyde indicated he found my proposed reason interesting. That if the "sin" does not rise to the level of causing an immediate Earthly danger, then it must (?) mean fundamentalists believe if they allow another to commit what in their view is a sin, it does not have an impact on the fate of just the sinner, but also on those that did not condemn the sin.

    This should have been very clear.

    Gary's suggestion was that they do it for power. This may very well be true and may be the reason or part of the reason. But what of my thought, that not condemning the sin also condemns the non-condemner's fate?

    Speaking of power: more could be said, but suffice it to say, other things you brought up in your post were not in response to what I said and what I asked. Some of it, at least, was in response to the thread title and specific issues brought up in this thread by others.

    It does make it a little more difficult to follow, but to a degree, it is understandable.

    But when you don't point out when you're addressing what parts and to whom you are speaking and then don't even really answer my question (which was asked because of your several posts in the past about your faith) ... well, why do you think you get the responses (or lack of response) that you do?

    You clearly missed the point of my question.

    I don't expect you will respond or, if you do, as you seek power (and have been corrupted by power before), you will seek to exercise your power of your posting style to wrest the conversation in the direction you wish it to go. It doesn't change the fact that my post was on topic and I asked a good question that others found interesting. I would have preferred if you'd raised your other points in a separate post and I really wish you could have tried to answer what was clearly the main point of my question.
    2254) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1734237)
    Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
    Apparently NOT!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/


    Ugh,

    Knew someone from New Hartford.
    2255) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1734222)
    Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'It' 'is' being 'Credibly' 'Reported', The Shooter asked Victims, -'Are You Christian?'-and when Answer is Yes, He Shot them in the head. If No Answer or said 'No', then Person was wounded.

    Wonderin' Why there has been An Almost Complete 'Lockdown' on 'Info'.

    SomeOne from 'On High' has 'Silenced' 'Release' of 'Info'.


    Lock down on this info?
    Sorry, but the AP is mainstream.
    Thus, you are a liar.

    http://news.yahoo.com/terrible-day-9-killed-gunman-oregon-town-063530204.html


    "One sentence", please, tell us another lie.
    2256) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1734221)
    Posted 14 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i believe the topic is
    "Obama using words, and saying stuff, but not to Pukes".
    Is it a problem of words, or Pukes?


    I thought the topic was "Obama should never be allowed to speak"?

    No.

    Just that every time he lectures us. We go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


    And he's not even really a professor! :)
    2257) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1733973)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brutus: every lie you tell that is recognizable and demonstrable as a lie will be confronted. If you're not deliberately lying, please, get yourself help.
    2258) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1733954)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

    Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/03/doctors-without-borders-killed-afghanistan/73271370/ posted 8:09 p.m. EDT October 3, 2015, 4 days before this thread was started. And a bunch more to be found. Not a lot of coverage? Blacked out? LIAR?
    2259) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1733953)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You asked the question, "should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?"

    I answered, "I don't care."

    Then you claimed that I redefined the main thrust of a point and implied my reading comprehension is a mess.

    I'm raising my THREATCON from ALPHA to BRAVO with anything you post directed at me now.


    READ!
    LEARN TO FREAKING READ!!!

    Screw screw SCREW!!! your Alpha, Bravo and Charlie.
    We ALL know it is a deflection.

    I did not NOT!!! post what I posted to ask if the U.N. should investigate.

    Learn to READ more than one post per thread.
    I already stated why I posted that last line: as more proof to (main thrust of post) DISPUTE YOUR FREAKING BOGUS CLAIM!!!

    Read my debunking of the claim that reports of refugees are rioting in Europe are being blocked in the U.S., in the MET Two thread. And find my debunking of Dull's claim that the media is also blocking out reports of the Oregon shooter asking the religions of his victims.

    Learn to read READ!!! more than one thread, get the context, get the spirit of the debunking (catch the mystery, catch the spit, today's Tom Sawyer, trampling over YOU!).

    Most of all, please ... just ... Learn to read READ!!!!!!
    2260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1733897)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Lynn, have a slice at this one folks.



    "I only play a lumberjack on 'photo-shopped next to trees' pictures!"
    2261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1733896)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Lynn, have a slice at this one folks.


    .
    "No trees above a certain elevation near Pumu Punku? I'll show that Giorgio Tsoukolos no trees!"
    2262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1733877)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lovely picture Ian, thanx for sharing :)

    Agreed, that is a lovely picture.


    And he resembles his avatar. (Just a light jab with his spear. :P)
    2263) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733876)
    Posted 13 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brutus:

    1) Sorry, this isn't philosophy. This is some people telling other people how to live their day-to-day lives.
    2) While I formulate my answer to your post, I'll ask you something else: do you believe only the Left seeks absolute power?

    Side-note: I grew up 6 hours from Boston and about 4 hours or so from Philadelphia and Gettysburg. 6 hours from Manassas. Most of those places, and historical sites, visited more than once. I read many of the documents or large portions of them as a kid of my own choice, not just when it came up in school.
    2264) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733830)
    Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll have to read that more closely later. Sure doesn't look like you've answered "Why does a fundamentalist feel they must stop another from sinning?"
    2265) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1733828)
    Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

    Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.


    That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
    My cable TV has been out a MONTH (no, not because I didn't pay the bill!) and I know about this.
    So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?


    I'm still awaiting Guy's ... I'm sorry, Brutus' response ... to this.


    Oh. Sorry. Answer:

    I don't care. They can if they want. They don't have to if they don't want to. This incident has already been forgotten by the majority. And the POTUS has already closed this issue by going around and saying "sorry." After all, if a liberal says he's "sorry," that's all that's needed, right?


    What is it with people redefining the main thrust of a point these days?
    I swear, UnCommon Core, as pushed the ideologue Right, has made a mess of reading comprehension!
    Brutus, you claimed it wasn't being discussed because of it being covered up by liberal media. Just like Worm/Dull/whatever-his-screen-name-is-now claimed a week ago that the media was covering up the shooter in Oregon asking about his victims' religions. I provided him a link disproving his cover up claim, and I dispute your claim as well.
    2266) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733802)
    Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Sarge Who:

    "It's my, my, my i-i-interpretation.
    Founding Fathers this,
    Founding Fathers that.
    I know what they said and you don't,
    George Washington hit me over the head with a whiffle Constitution bat.
    I wish all these people that can't read and interpret it
    my way
    would just
    f-f-f
    fade away.
    My, my, my, i-i-interpretation!"
    2267) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1733800)
    Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

    Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.


    That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
    My cable TV has been out a MONTH (no, not because I didn't pay the bill!) and I know about this.
    So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?


    I'm still awaiting Guy's ... I'm sorry, Brutus' response ... to this.
    2268) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733706)
    Posted 12 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, you and WK are focusing on the wrong thing: most Christians believe God gave them free will, with the exception of those such as Calvinists. Since most, by and large, do believe they have it as a gift or curse from God, the fact that they try to get others to behave they do in accordance with the laws of their God, they in effect go against God's gift or curse of free will.

    Therefore, the discussion of the paradox (real or not) is not gernane to this portion of the discussion.

    The paradox, is perhaps germane to this Subject.

    Some Christian Government Officials (Kim Davis for one), believe their God forbids them to issue Marriage Certificates to those committing 'a sin'. Therefore 'The Sinner' has no free will to commit 'the sin', and must be stopped.

    Other Christian Government Officials, do not believe their God forbids them. Because 'The Sinner' has free will to commit 'the sin'. And must accept the consequences.


    The paradox you describe is not the one Michel describes.
    Michel speaks of a God that exists outside of space and time and immune to paradoxes.
    I, and now you, speak of paradoxes we humans face.
    I believe emphasis should be put on something leading to your last sentence: the so-called sinner is the one that faces the consequences.
    Outside of "eternal damnation", what are the Earthly consequences of being a homosexual and a homosexual marriage? At earlier points in time, it might have meant greater susceptibility to STDs. It can lead to being stigmatized. But what harm does it cause, if any? (I know there are studies, for example, on children raised by same sex parents and, at least early on, they were finding no ill effects.)
    Supposing it hurts no one during life on Earth, except God doesn't like it and will eternally damn the gays (supposedly), what does Kim Davis and her kind fear? Clearly, God won't be eternally damning them for being gay, because they're not gay! So, they must (?) fear being damned for allowing others to sin. Yet, in giving free will, God gives people the choice whether to sin or not and I know of no commandment type thing that says "Thou shalt not be happy, and shallst burneth in the Burning Lake of Gehenna, if thou seest of another person that breaks one of my other thou shalt nots!"

    Sarge...

    Extremely interesting, and thought provoking Post.

    As The Nazarene is reported to have said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone".

    I do not understand, as I believe you do not understand. Why Davis (and others who believe as her) believes it is their sin, if they do not stop and/or punish other peoples sins.


    Having been raised Lutheran ...
    and calling myself until 2002 or a little after ...
    and at least Christian for a few more years after that ...
    I have friends, ones I grew up with and current ones, that are fundamentalists.
    I have thrown this question out there, similarly worded. I've never received a response or satisfactory response.
    So, no, I don't understand.
    But I am looking for the source.
    There's the story of the Good Samaritan. Certain things, we cannot stand idly by and allow to happen: seeing a person being robbed, raped or murdered. If we cannot help directly, we can call for help, etc. ... .
    But I think there are many things being called sin that simply don't rise to the level of the three heinous examples I just provided. And I really doubt that they think this is just like the Good Samaritan story, My suspicions.


    Really, "Brutus" no comments on ANY of this?
    The repetition is becoming ... brutish.
    2269) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1733364)
    Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Refugee riots in Europe blacked out in US media? Awww, bless your heart. Guess The Washington Post is media from outside the U.S. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-refugee-riot-puts-a-german-town-on-edge/2015/10/01/fa9075bc-65f5-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html. It's time to be blunt: LIARS BUSTED AGAIN.

    Not even in Russia media are refugee riots in Europe blacked out.


    I wasn't actually responding to something someone said here or something that's true.

    The poster who changes his screen name on a weekly basis or so claimed about 8 days ago that the media was not reporting on the Oregon shooter asking the religious affiliation of his victims.

    Guy (Brutus) claimed that if the US currently had a Republican president, we'd hear the reports about the hospital recently struck and Doctors without Borders calling it a war crime.

    On another site, a Jewish friend yesterday posted something along the lines of "See what happens when you let them in? Look what's happening in Europe! I hope we (in the US) don't let them in here as well." I think his concern about Muslims motivated the post, but the article he linked claimed the refugee riots were not being reported in the US.

    1) I Checked frequently-changes-screen name's claim the next day after his post and the Associated Press was reporting that, indeed, the shooter had asked his victims about their religious affiliations.
    2) I (truthfully) told Guy my cable TV had been out a month (it was just fixed yesterday) and that even so, I had heard about the hospital being struck despite the fact we currently have a Democrat for a President.
    3) I did not respond to my friend on the other site. Instead, I posted what I posted here as my own "thread" and then a copied and pasted it here with the link that, indeed, the Washington Post had been reporting for at least a week already about Syrian refugees rioting (or Afghani or whatever).

    It deeply disturbs me that, three times in a week, I could find three examples of claims so quickly and easily demonstrated as false. It makes it really really hard to listen to anything such a person says. That I still try to listen says I am neurotic or stupid or patient or wise. Darned if I know which one it really is.
    2270) Message boards : Politics : Will the "YouTube Era" change policing? (Message 1733360)
    Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As long as the police approach a suspect in a civil manner and only use force if the suspect is genuinely trying to resist arrest, I see no reason why they should be jittery.

    It is when a squad of police officers throw an unarmed and co-operative street hawker to the ground and commit fatal GBH on him they should feel nervous.

    T.A.

    Edit: For those unfamiliar with the term GBH = Grievous Bodily Harm


    Agree.
    Do I need to give reasons here, as well?
    2271) Message boards : Politics : The Racism Quandary (Message 1733358)
    Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Analyzed to the nth degree? Whaaat?
    Disagree.

    Then state why

    Do you prefer the term "Analysed six ways from Sunday" ?

    T.A.


    Actually, I'd prefer if you understood what I was saying in some other "recent" posts, such as in the massacre thread. That you'd read and think deeper and not assume you knew on the first or second read precisely what I was saying.

    But, on this one, I believe the bad reactions are generally due to gut reactions, not analysis. Further, that to say, in essence "the ones it supposedly insults don't care a jot" probably does not cover everyone it supposedly insults. Few Asians post here, so far as I know. I haven't seen Orgil post in quite some time. And even if he said he was or was not insulted wouldn't tell us much of anything.

    Does the fact that I have been able to solve the cube since 1982 make me Asian?

    Why is it I have had Asian students in both higher level classes I teach as well as remedial (a.k.a. developmental ones)? To respond to something Clyde has brought up elsewhere, why is it that two black students in one of my current classes have some of the best averages with no extra help from me?

    I try to not assume a darned thing when it comes to race. (And that includes what will or won't be considered offensive.)

    Last: I call people from India Indians because I've met a good handful of Indians and once I did, it makes no sense to call Native Americans (or First Peoples as Gary says) Indians.
    2272) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733355)
    Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, you and WK are focusing on the wrong thing: most Christians believe God gave them free will, with the exception of those such as Calvinists. Since most, by and large, do believe they have it as a gift or curse from God, the fact that they try to get others to behave they do in accordance with the laws of their God, they in effect go against God's gift or curse of free will.

    Therefore, the discussion of the paradox (real or not) is not gernane to this portion of the discussion.

    The paradox, is perhaps germane to this Subject.

    Some Christian Government Officials (Kim Davis for one), believe their God forbids them to issue Marriage Certificates to those committing 'a sin'. Therefore 'The Sinner' has no free will to commit 'the sin', and must be stopped.

    Other Christian Government Officials, do not believe their God forbids them. Because 'The Sinner' has free will to commit 'the sin'. And must accept the consequences.


    The paradox you describe is not the one Michel describes.
    Michel speaks of a God that exists outside of space and time and immune to paradoxes.
    I, and now you, speak of paradoxes we humans face.
    I believe emphasis should be put on something leading to your last sentence: the so-called sinner is the one that faces the consequences.
    Outside of "eternal damnation", what are the Earthly consequences of being a homosexual and a homosexual marriage? At earlier points in time, it might have meant greater susceptibility to STDs. It can lead to being stigmatized. But what harm does it cause, if any? (I know there are studies, for example, on children raised by same sex parents and, at least early on, they were finding no ill effects.)
    Supposing it hurts no one during life on Earth, except God doesn't like it and will eternally damn the gays (supposedly), what does Kim Davis and her kind fear? Clearly, God won't be eternally damning them for being gay, because they're not gay! So, they must (?) fear being damned for allowing others to sin. Yet, in giving free will, God gives people the choice whether to sin or not and I know of no commandment type thing that says "Thou shalt not be happy, and shallst burneth in the Burning Lake of Gehenna, if thou seest of another person that breaks one of my other thou shalt nots!"

    Sarge...

    Extremely interesting, and thought provoking Post.

    As The Nazarene is reported to have said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone".

    I do not understand, as I believe you do not understand. Why Davis (and others who believe as her) believes it is their sin, if they do not stop and/or punish other peoples sins.


    Having been raised Lutheran ...
    and calling myself until 2002 or a little after ...
    and at least Christian for a few more years after that ...
    I have friends, ones I grew up with and current ones, that are fundamentalists.
    I have thrown this question out there, similarly worded. I've never received a response or satisfactory response.
    So, no, I don't understand.
    But I am looking for the source.
    There's the story of the Good Samaritan. Certain things, we cannot stand idly by and allow to happen: seeing a person being robbed, raped or murdered. If we cannot help directly, we can call for help, etc. ... .
    But I think there are many things being called sin that simply don't rise to the level of the three heinous examples I just provided. And I really doubt that they think this is just like the Good Samaritan story, My suspicions.
    2273) Message boards : Politics : The Racism Quandary (Message 1733349)
    Posted 10 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Analyzed to the nth degree? Whaaat?
    Disagree.
    2274) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733195)
    Posted 9 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw on Charlie Rose's program last night that Kim Davis has been married and divorced several times, has by her own admission committed adultery and had a child out of wedlock. It looks to me like her strict faith in God has some holes in it.


    I don't suppose your post was directly a reply to mine.
    However, her answer to what you've pointed out (and many have pointed out, many times) is that she was "saved" after these events.
    2275) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1733179)
    Posted 9 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, you and WK are focusing on the wrong thing: most Christians believe God gave them free will, with the exception of those such as Calvinists. Since most, by and large, do believe they have it as a gift or curse from God, the fact that they try to get others to behave they do in accordance with the laws of their God, they in effect go against God's gift or curse of free will.

    Therefore, the discussion of the paradox (real or not) is not gernane to this portion of the discussion.

    The paradox, is perhaps germane to this Subject.

    Some Christian Government Officials (Kim Davis for one), believe their God forbids them to issue Marriage Certificates to those committing 'a sin'. Therefore 'The Sinner' has no free will to commit 'the sin', and must be stopped.

    Other Christian Government Officials, do not believe their God forbids them. Because 'The Sinner' has free will to commit 'the sin'. And must accept the consequences.


    The paradox you describe is not the one Michel describes.
    Michel speaks of a God that exists outside of space and time and immune to paradoxes.
    I, and now you, speak of paradoxes we humans face.
    I believe emphasis should be put on something leading to your last sentence: the so-called sinner is the one that faces the consequences.
    Outside of "eternal damnation", what are the Earthly consequences of being a homosexual and a homosexual marriage? At earlier points in time, it might have meant greater susceptibility to STDs. It can lead to being stigmatized. But what harm does it cause, if any? (I know there are studies, for example, on children raised by same sex parents and, at least early on, they were finding no ill effects.)
    Supposing it hurts no one during life on Earth, except God doesn't like it and will eternally damn the gays (supposedly), what does Kim Davis and her kind fear? Clearly, God won't be eternally damning them for being gay, because they're not gay! So, they must (?) fear being damned for allowing others to sin. Yet, in giving free will, God gives people the choice whether to sin or not and I know of no commandment type thing that says "Thou shalt not be happy, and shallst burneth in the Burning Lake of Gehenna, if thou seest of another person that breaks one of my other thou shalt nots!"
    2276) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1733070)
    Posted 9 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All Hail Thor!


    All Hail, Sleet, Rain & Tornadoes be Unto Thee, Thor!
    2277) Message boards : Politics : MH370 Missing (Message 1733069)
    Posted 9 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On Oct. 8th, 2015 the H2 channel aired an hour long documentary covering the search effort for the missing airliner. There were also interviews with friends and relatives of the missing passengers. I guess the program was finalized before the discovery of parts from the airliner at Reunion Island.


    I saw a short part of it and that much was obvious. I also suspect it was a re-broadcast, as they often do.
    2278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1732959)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great pictures! Very fun to look at.


    The one of Drake Hogestyn?
    2279) Message boards : Politics : Doomsday predictions (Message 1732907)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did read a couple of days ago about yet another doomsday prediction that is supposed to occur today, Oct. 8th. Supposedly a comet or asteroid is supposed to strike Puerto Rico. I think the hour of the event has already passed. This came from the same organization that predicted doomsday in 2011.

    This non-event did get press coverage, go figure.


    Oh, so they pushed it back from September 23?
    Another InfoWorrier?
    2280) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1732905)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Refugee riots in Europe blacked out in US media? Awww, bless your heart. Guess The Washington Post is media from outside the U.S. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-refugee-riot-puts-a-german-town-on-edge/2015/10/01/fa9075bc-65f5-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html. It's time to be blunt: LIARS BUSTED AGAIN.
    2281) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1732897)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This airstrike will be hard to attribute to "whoops we made a mistake". Back in the days of LBJ during the Viet Nam war a decision such as this came from the white house. But I get the feeling that the current POTUS isn't so interested in the day to day management of the troops. I'm guessing some poor Major or Col. will get hung out to dry.


    Sorry, but dictators micro-manage the second-to-second freaking management of everything they freaking can.
    2282) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1732748)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    In all years over 80% of those stopped were completely innocent.


    20% crooks and undesirables. Not a place to live. Born there but escaped; Washington Heights is a zoo now.

    For someone who claims to have taught statistics you exhibit a total lack of understanding statistics.
    Over 80% innocent does not equal 20% crooks/undesirables.
    "The number of stops increased dramatically in 2008 to over half a million, 88% of which did not result in any fine or conviction, peaking in 2011 to 685,724 stops, again with 88% resulting in no conviction. On average from 2002 to 2013 the number of individuals stopped without any convictions was 87.6%....Wikipedia

    Minorities were the ones stopped disproportionately.
    the percentage of blacks and Hispanics subjected to stop-and-frisk encounters has declined slightly, but last quarter amounted to 81.5 percent: 51.7 percent of stops were blacks and 29.7 percent were Hispanics.

    Showing blatant racism.
    The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to uncover contraband....https://www.rt.com/usa/stop-frisk-whites-drugs-weapons-667/


    __________________________________________________________
    The Internet is a conspiracy to out Racists and Bigots at their leisure.


    I believe we have a case of a fuzzy definition of the complement of the set in question. This need not reflect on his knowledge of, and ability to teach, statistics. Rather, it reflects on his views on human nature. (Unless you meant "over 80% means less than 20%"?)
    2283) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1732746)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Step 5: Enforce. Guns won't just disappear because you passed a law.
    So very true.
    Like crystal meth, heroin, PCP, cocaine, marijuana, MDMA, et. al.? Haven't we proved just how perfect bans are. What an incredible drain on society with the number of felons they create. We have a great lesson when they banned booze, and now someone finally realized the war on drugs in no different and retroactively reduced sentences. But the it's terrible "BAN IT!" crew is at it again creating another failure and massive drain on society.


    Not all calls are calls for a ban.
    To relate it to the things you've compared it to, it's not as if, in the states that have legalized recreational marijuana, you can smoke it without any limitations. (Still not a user. Don't let the long hair fool ya.)
    2284) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1732743)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?

    The U.N.?
    Since when have they done something useful?

    Just giving further evidence that I knew about this despite Guy's/Brutus' claim: "Dcotors without Borders", I believe, has called for it to be considered a war crime to be investigated by the U.N.
    2285) Message boards : Politics : Just curious (Message 1732718)
    Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

    A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

    Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.


    That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
    My cable TV has been out a MONTH (no, not because I didn't pay the bill!) and I know about this.
    So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?
    2286) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1732443)
    Posted 7 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution:
    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and happiness.
    Wrong document Janne

    Is it?
    Does Thomas Jefferson and The Declaration of Independence ring a bell?
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

    Declaration of Independence != US Constitution.


    Note to Janne: != is also represented by <>.
    2287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1732376)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the win, here's a little stroll down memory lane....




    "These human hand gloves don't fit over wings very well!"
    2288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1732375)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the win, here's a little stroll down memory lane....




    "Hi, I'm a duck, dressed as Carlton from 'The Fresh Prince' of Bel Air!'"
    2289) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1732372)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our current ruling class is out of control. Has been for a couple of decades now. The problem is not imaginary. It's quite obvious everywhere you look. The list of changes because of light and transient causes are becoming too numerous to list. The left and most of our press are just ignoring this very real problem. But they are not prosecuted because they are the prosecutors. The reason our country is becoming lawless is because our ruling class has become lawless.

    Our country was created to be run by our citizens. Our constitution can be read in is entirety in one sitting. It is written so the majority of citizens can read and understand it. But the left and the press say only smart people can understand it now and many people, such as you, believe them. It's in plain English. Anybody can understand it but it seems like most are not reading it any more.

    Tyranny is happening before our very eyes. They have been governing with out the consent of the governed with greater and greater tenacity. Our founders predicted this. Our founders were worried the citizens would become stupid and ignore the principles in our constitution and they were right.

    The right to bear arms here in the U.S. was to give us a last chance check on tyranny. It hasn't gotten bad enough to invoke that extreme measure and hopefully it never reaches that point. The left wants to remove that last check so they can become even more brazen about seizing all power and control away from the people. It won't happen soon. Too many people like me still here.

    We do not limit who can vote. We allow anybody who shows up at the poll to vote. The left likes it that way. When people breach our borders, they can vote for free stuff and then get it. When the right says we are going bankrupt, the left laughs. It's not funny.

    Our government is broken. The minority is in charge. Our judicial branch has gone rogue. The left is spending us into bankruptcy. The left is becoming more brazen about destroying this country.

    But it looks like the people are starting to wake up. Many of us are getting desperate to try anything to fix it before it's too late. Term limits would be a good start. It was good enough to enact after FDR, it would be a good thing to enact on our congress and our judicial branch. We need more citizen representatives, more citizen presidents, and less life-time judges.

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

    ...just as relevant today as it was 239 years ago.


    Without the details at the moment, this lacks nuance (something Clyde just referred to in another thread).
    2290) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education 2 (Message 1732370)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Margaret Sanger? Hmmm. Born in the city of famous glass works and not far from the hills where things soar very very well.

    So, if one does not support eugenics and I'm sure the percent that do world wide is low and on the S@H fora few to none) and believes/knows Sanger was a racist/eugenicist, how could that one support Planned Parenthood. The ones claims Progressivism in the US follows from her and her ilk, yet swo does Planned Parenthood. Contradiction?

    Not really. If one is able to understand the Nuanced Positions, of those who are neither Narrow Minded Secular or Religious Ideologues.

    I am for Planned Parenthood, and disgusted by one of its Founders.

    The Disgusting Sanger is used by The Right and Religious Fanatics, to promote their agenda.

    I believe The Truth, is The Truth, and cannot be suppressed. Even for the 'Good of The People'.

    Sarge...

    Understand?


    Indeed, positions can be and often are nuanced.
    So, if you like, please provide a link or a book I can look up with some nuanced discussion of Sanger. So far, all I've read is a Wiki, but that page seems nuanced. Her politics appear to have been Socialist (left), yet she also spoke to far right groups about birth control.
    The way the Right uses her as an example to promote an agenda is to continue to say she was racist and a supporter of eugenics in order to dissuade people from using birth control or having an abortion. Correct?

    Note: there is no need for italicizing people's name or screen names.
    2291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1732199)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the win, here's a little stroll down memory lane....




    "So, there I was, at the casting/interview for Aflac, when they suddenly said 'What we need is a goose, not a duck!'. (Plus, they said when I said 'Aflac' it sounded like I was saying 'Affleck'!)
    2292) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1732198)
    Posted 6 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    No, I want to know, what is it intended to fix. I mean, if you advocate for term limits it means that having people constantly run for office somehow causes a problem, what is that problem? Or is the fact that people keep voting for the same guy the problem? If so, why is that a problem.


    A rather strict term limit will fix one problem... That of the 'career politician' and its consequent corruption.

    I have frequently advocated for a strict term limit of one term in one office (elected or appointed)... once...

    Serve one term in one office, then after serving your city/county/state/country you go back home and go back to work at your *REAL JOB*.

    In our country it would be ment that we wouldn't have any politicians.
    Or at least only a handful.
    Our politicians dont know what a *REAL JOB* is:)

    Actually our prime minister does and the leader of the left party.
    The others...


    Kong and Janne make good points.
    Don't we have some Representatives or Senators that have been in D.C. since their teens? Anybody ever visit Washington D.C. and here about the "page" program? Anyone that served as a page or in anyway as an assistant to a Senator or Representative and then ran for office themselves ... how can they do a good job at listening to the people if they've been away from the main body of the people for so long?

    (If this isn't clear to most but someone else understands, please clarify? I've been pretty exhausted most times this past week or so.)
    2293) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education 2 (Message 1732147)
    Posted 5 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Margaret Sanger? Hmmm. Born in the city of famous glass works and not far from the hills where things soar very very well.

    So, if one does not support eugenics and I'm sure the percent that do world wide is low and on the S@H fora few to none) and believes/knows Sanger was a racist/eugenicist, how could that one support Planned Parenthood. The ones claims Progressivism in the US follows from her and her ilk, yet swo does Planned Parenthood. Contradiction?
    2294) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1731938)
    Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    She will not be convicted of anything. She won't even go to trial. The worst that will happen is that she will not be elected POTUS.

    She is a well entrenched member of the ruling class. The law does not apply to her.

    I never thought we'd agree on anything, but there you have it, miracles happen.


    I believe it unlikely she could win even if she becomes the nominee for the Democrats. Rightly or wrongly, there were already concerns about her character before she was Secretary of State.
    2295) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1731937)
    Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most of the religious right statists believe their God gave them free will, but enact laws to restrict the free will of others. They are against their God.

    But doesn't their God know everything, including the future, so surely their future is preordained and therefore they don't have free will. Because if they do have a free will then their God cannot know the future.

    Thats only true if you follow the common human understanding of how time works. But God isn't human and I doubt that something that is all powerful and all knowing perceives time the same way we do.

    That said, humans don't have free will, its just not because God knows everything already.


    I have already indicated elsewhere specific reasons why I believe that free will is at the least limited. I can post them again in a current appropriate thread if desired.

    But, you and WK are focusing on the wrong thing: most Christians believe God gave them free will, with the exception of those such as Calvinists. Since most, by and large, do believe they have it as a gift or curse from God, the fact that they try to get others to behave they do in accordance with the laws of their God, they in effect go against God's gift or curse of free will.

    Therefore, the discussion of the paradox (real or not) is not gernane to this portion of the discussion.
    2296) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1731882)
    Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one very big problem it causes: most running already hold some office. The campaigning for the 2016 Presidential Election is stretched out more than a year and I suspect that period is lengthening. If they already hold some other office, that means their attention to their current position is greatly diminished.

    Yeah but term limits aren't going to fix that. That just means that there is a limit on how often someone can run for office, but while they are running for office and they already have a job, this conflict between the old job and the campaign will arise.


    This overlooks the campaigning that goes on while holding a job to maintain having that same job.
    2297) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1731805)
    Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most of the religious right statists believe their God gave them free will, but enact laws to restrict the free will of others. They are against their God.
    2298) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1731665)
    Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And then, on Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change...”


    One woman in a London coffee shop bolted out of her chair because she'd figured out and this time no one would need to nailed to a cross. Only problem? Shortly thereafter, Arthur lost her in a multi-dimensional accident during a hyperspace flight. Everyone knows species from the Plural sectors should not go into hyperspace.
    2299) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1731514)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not sure what problem term limits fixes. Tell me exactly what problem is caused by the lack of term limits?


    Gary has hypothesized in this thread some good and bad possible outcomes.
    You can respond to that or add good and bad possible outcomes you can hypothesize your own.

    What limits exist in other countries?

    Why did the US impose a 2 term limit on Presidents after FDR?

    No, I want to know, what is it intended to fix. I mean, if you advocate for term limits it means that having people constantly run for office somehow causes a problem, what is that problem? Or is the fact that people keep voting for the same guy the problem? If so, why is that a problem.


    Here's one very big problem it causes: most running already hold some office. The campaigning for the 2016 Presidential Election is stretched out more than a year and I suspect that period is lengthening. If they already hold some other office, that means their attention to their current position is greatly diminished.

    Nor do I believe that a longer time to campaign means we'll get to know our choices better. There are plenty of sources out there to distort the truth and they have as much time to get their story out there as do the ones trying to get the truth out there.
    2300) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1731512)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the bible stories of Jesus, note how they follow similar patterns to such as the legends of King Arthur and Robin Hood and others, including the ideas of various 'doing good' and suffering trials and quests...


    Deliberately misunderstanding you so you can rephrase and move the discussion: so, you're saying 2000 year old Jesus was modeled on 1400 year old Arthur and such?
    2301) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1731469)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But rather than accept that it's often just a popularity contest, the result of this discussion will be that we'll let them campaign more (not just put signs in people's lawns) and they'll get more power.
    2302) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1731468)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not sure what problem term limits fixes. Tell me exactly what problem is caused by the lack of term limits?


    Gary has hypothesized in this thread some good and bad possible outcomes.
    You can respond to that or add good and bad possible outcomes you can hypothesize your own.

    What limits exist in other countries?

    Why did the US impose a 2 term limit on Presidents after FDR?
    2303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1731414)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which one is me?

    If your avatar is you now, I would guess #1 and/or #4
    #2 has a longer face and nose, and #3 I've seen on TV.

    But I've been fooled by pictures posted here before.


    It is, as of 14 months ago.
    2304) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731364)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That tired old line has become threadworn and the logic disproven earlier in this thread,
    2305) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731340)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We have banned claymore mines, sawed off shot guns and fully automatic guns and no second amendment rights were infringed. The reason behind those actions was not to eliminate gun violence but to reduce firepower. Getting rid of semiautomatic weapons would also reduce fire power.
    I ask why would that infringe upon the second amendment? I contend fewer rounds per minute would reduce the number of victims per minute. Why would that be a bad thing?
    I await replies from Thirsty, Brutus, who was once Guy and any others who have thoughts on the subject.


    Come now, betreger. Clearly, more per minute was needed as the citizens of Texas battled Jade Helm 15 this summer.
    2306) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731314)
    Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'It' 'is' being 'Credibly' 'Reported', The Shooter asked Victims, -'Are You Christian?'-and when Answer is Yes, He Shot them in the head. If No Answer or said 'No', then Person was wounded.

    Wonderin' Why there has been An Almost Complete 'Lockdown' on 'Info'.

    SomeOne from 'On High' has 'Silenced' 'Release' of 'Info'.


    Lock down on this info?
    Sorry, but the AP is mainstream.
    Thus, you are a liar.

    http://news.yahoo.com/terrible-day-9-killed-gunman-oregon-town-063530204.html
    2307) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731312)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since you obviously don't like responses you've heard before, what's your solution?
    Round up the talk radio hosts and put them in a hermetically sealed room. That might do wonders lowering the violence level.


    That would require making an association between far left or far right (inclusive or) to violent acts. (Of course, one of us here claims there is no difference. But a West Point study [I think it was a WP study] points to a 400% increase in more violence from the far right in the last 15-20 years. I wonder if that excludes the Bush years? Also, a colleague of mine claimed a few months ago that many recent shooting sprees were by leftists but, when pushed, could not name a single incident.]

    How do you feel about the push by other Libertarians to legalize pot or prostitution to reduce violence (gun or otherwise)?
    2308) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731309)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    ES99, treatment of mental illness isn't always, here take this pill. Treatment frequently includes a locked door. Or would you only be satisfied with some perfect utopia? In which case you can stop posting your dreams and annoying others. And we haven't even touched on the druggies.

    Don't be rude.

    It is clear that I know more about it than you. Even when treatment needs a locked door those doors are rarely ever locked permanently, nor should they be.

    As a libertarian you should understand that.


    The reality is more likely somewhere in the middle of what the two of you say.
    I know for a fact that in the 70s and 80s, in the US, there were patients going through "revolving doors":

    A) In-patient.
    B) Out-patient.
    C) No care at all, except possibly via meds.

    C often led back to A after a certain amount of time. Though C could lead back to B in some cases I guess.
    2309) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731194)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't it time that the US follows suit and becomes a civilised society


    It is time for all of us who are wringing our hands in anguish and outrage to calmly list what should be specifically done to change these patterns.

    List the actions that you are recommending be taken and by whom.
    Remember that there are 350,000,000 guns in the US already. (Perhaps another 100,000,000 added since the Columbine shooting in 1999.
    Every day 80+ people die via firearms in the US--mostly due inner-city drug turf wars (50 alone last weekend in Chicago).

    I challenge you not to list utopian desires, but rather concrete actions that could be taken in our society which is filled with crime, hunters, inept politicians and criminals.


    Since you obviously don't like responses you've heard before, what's your solution?
    2310) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731186)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, Es. You know better than to bring this up.
    Clearly, only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.
    Since people don't change, bad guys are always bad guys and good guys are always good guys.
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.

    snipped

    They did it Australia, so why not in the US?


    Yeah, you snipped it and TOTALLY changed the meaning of the post which you clearly did NOT understand.

    I snipped it to highlight the first paragraph. specifically:
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.


    some years ago Australia decided to do something about the rights to have guns after a "massacre" and since then gun crime has decreased to about the norm for
    civilised countries.


    You still CLEARLY misunderstood the overall post.
    The "reasoning" of the second half reflects on the "reasoning" of the first.
    Get it yet?

    Actually I don't think it does, you are wrong in comparing minor crime, pot smoking, with serious crime, gun crime.

    If you were to compare, vehicle crime of excessive speed, driving under the influence or dangerous driving in built up area I might have agreed.

    Pot smoking is just a prohibition crime, assuming it doesn't involved cars or dangerous machinery, and we all know how well the laws banning alcohol worked.

    So all in all I reject your criticism and would like an answer to the point I made.

    Australia did something about gun crime.

    Isn't it time that the US follows suit and becomes a civilised society.


    Your rejection of my criticism is not warranted because you are still not understanding. Your lack of understanding is compounded by focusing on minor or major crimes. I will not answer your "question" until you understand.

    To help you, based on your "major crime" requirement, say, involving a vehicle, fine, here you go:

    "Similarly, Senator Ted Kennedy reportedly drove drunk in Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts on July 18, 1969. The crash resulted in the death of his young colleague, Mary Jo Kopechne.
    If true, he was a criminal. He didn't obey law.
    Since people don't change, we must accept that, as Ted would have broken all current laws of the time and the new laws passed by Congress, he was unfit to be a Senator for Massachussetts of the U.S.A."

    Furthermore, I don't think you even know what I am criticizing. You think it is you or your point. Again, the second half of my post reflects on the first half. Figure out what, then, I am criticizing.
    2311) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1731104)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, Es. You know better than to bring this up.
    Clearly, only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.
    Since people don't change, bad guys are always bad guys and good guys are always good guys.
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.

    snipped

    They did it Australia, so why not in the US?


    Yeah, you snipped it and TOTALLY changed the meaning of the post which you clearly did NOT understand.

    I snipped it to highlight the first paragraph. specifically:
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.


    some years ago Australia decided to do something about the rights to have guns after a "massacre" and since then gun crime has decreased to about the norm for
    civilised countries.


    You still CLEARLY misunderstood the overall post.
    The "reasoning" of the second half reflects on the "reasoning" of the first.
    Get it yet?
    2312) Message boards : Politics : Monarchy v Republic (Message 1730968)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Simon face the facts driving on the right side of the road is right.


    It's ok. They invented the automobile and its mass production, so they get to decide.
    2313) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1730959)
    Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, Es. You know better than to bring this up.
    Clearly, only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.
    Since people don't change, bad guys are always bad guys and good guys are always good guys.
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.

    snipped

    They did it Australia, so why not in the US?


    Yeah, you snipped it and TOTALLY changed the meaning of the post which you clearly did NOT understand.
    2314) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1730900)
    Posted 1 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Scared Democracy does...

    All wars are terrible. The Moral Side uses the exact same tactics to win the war, as its Evil Adversary. In this case the Jihadists. In the past - The Nazis.

    The Moral Side wins, if they kill and destroy their Enemy's Soldiers, Supporters, Income, War making Capability, and if need be, their Family's. At a far greater rate than the Enemy can.

    This is the Historical problem a Moral Democracy has:

    Its unwillingness to accept what must be done, until the Threat becomes so immediate, that the reaction is more terrible, than needed to be done in the past.

    This is one of those instances, where the Ethical and Moral, as you are Мишель, causes more deaths and destruction, by not acting sooner.


    So true Clyde so let's roll out those nukes and be done with the whole area .

    Sounds cruel but i can see no other way to solve the problem as all side there are to blame so nuke them all and be done with it .


    And, of course, everyone were worried about is in the same area. No one exists elsewhere that will dream of revenge.


    A lot of the M.E. problem is the desire for revenge. Revenge for things remembered and things ancient and not clearly remembered. Glenn, if you nuke the M.E., you will not rid the world of everyone you're worried about. They don't all live in the same area. So, do you propose to track them down everywhere and commit genocide or religocide?
    2315) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1730873)
    Posted 1 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We must accept random shootings if we expect to remain a free society.

    For the last 30 years, 569 people have died from mass shootings. That's about 19 people per year.

    Every year, more than 300 people die from drowning in a bathtub; therefore, we must ban bath tubs before we ban guns.

    Every year, more than 500 people die from slipping, tripping or falling; therefore, we must ban floors before we ban bathtubs.

    Every year in America, more than 10,000 people die in drunk driving crashes; therefore, we must ban cars before we ban floors.

    http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/06/heres-what-the-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-about-mass-shootings/

    Guy who is now Brutus you keep posting the same tired old litany, and using straw man arguments to justify it.
    Doing the same thing over and over will continue to get the same results. That is a good definition of insanity.


    No, it's a definition of being neurotic. These areb't exactly the same. (Since that phrase is so oft-repeated as well, I felt it was time to point this out.)
    2316) Message boards : Politics : Another Mass Shooting in the U.S.A. (Message 1730859)
    Posted 1 Oct 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, Es. You know better than to bring this up.
    Clearly, only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.
    Since people don't change, bad guys are always bad guys and good guys are always good guys.
    Bad guys (a.k.a. criminals) are such because they don't obey the laws. We can't expect more (restrictive) gun laws to stop them (the bad guys) from getting guns.

    Similarly, Jeb Bush recently admitted he used to be pot smoker.
    At the time and place he did so, it was illegal.
    Thus, he is a criminal. He doesn't obey law.
    Since people don't change, we must accept that, as Jeb will break all current laws and the new laws passed by Congress, he is unfit to be the President of the U.S.A.
    2317) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1730268)
    Posted 30 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But if governments collapse and anarchy prevails ...


    If the former occurs, then the latter occurs if we let it.

    So many people lack ... ummm, lack of a better word? ... faith in the government, no matter which "side" is in charge. Yet they fear it's break down and insist it will be anarchy?
    2318) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1730264)
    Posted 30 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gold is a fairly good store of value, but not so much as a medium of exchange, it is too bulky to move around in rapid manner.


    I started a thread on gold about 2 years ago and the discussion did not go much of anywhere.

    As I recall, I said, obviously, gold has it's values as a good conductor, etc. ... . Paper/wood also has value: we can write on paper and build shelter our of wood. But why do we need it, or anything else backing our money? No matter what is backing our money, it is still really perception, isn't it?

    I believe, if a currency-reset is coming, it is because the doom-and-gloom Revelation's believers lost faith in our currency and pushed the rest of us over the edge. (Did they not fight the introduction of the credit card?)

    Again, if anyone's got good reason to believe currency reset is on the way and it's not wrapped in Armageddon end times doom-and-gloom prophecies, have at it. Make us understand.
    2319) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1730194)
    Posted 30 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, is it time to buy and hoard as much gold as you can get your hands on for the impending switch to the barter system?


    I think the gold hawkers might be making a profit from convincing us to purchase gold.
    2320) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1730159)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    God was invented by the small minority of clever "Haves" to keep the vast majority "have nots" from stealing their booty. So they invented the concept of heaven and a big reward after you die to dissuade the have nots from breaking their laws. Great scam, because when you are dead it's hard to come back and complain that you were bilked.

    It was relatively easy to control or eliminate those who didn't buy the lie by promising loyal soldiers an even bigger piece of the pie, again after they died.


    You stated the essence of that before.
    You never responded to my legitimate question.
    The haves and have-nots is perhaps 12000 years old, from around the time of domestication of animals and agriculture beginning.
    Evidence of worship goes back at least 30000-40000 years.
    So, was God invented by those you claim or, once they came to be (with the God concept already in existence), did they take advantage of it along with so many other things they take advantage of?

    In my opinion your second explanation fits the facts. Early humans were apparently highly superstitious and like I have stated before needed an explanation for why natural events happened. Why does it rain, why are there draughts, why are there floods, why do volcanoes erupt, what are the stars and so on. They came to the conclusion that a god or gods caused things to happen and about the time humans shifted from being hunter gatherers to living in ever more organised communities the leaders and shamans got together to figure out how they were going to keep the population under control and gradually worked out the precepts of religion. They used the already in place concept of god(s) and created an atmosphere where the fear of god and themselves was used to control behavior. So they told the people that they were appointed by God to rule them and a combination of brutal punishment here on earth for misdeeds and a promise of a happy bountiful afterlife kept most of the masses in line. It has been ingrained in the human psyche for so long that modern humans, even in the face of massive evidence of how things really work, still believe in heaven and hell. My question is, where are heaven and hell? And without them in some form religion has no basis of operation and no hold over men and women.

    When you think about it without bias it makes sense, doesn't it.


    Thanks for the clarification. Putting your past two statements together makes it easier to understand where you're coming from. So, "hijacked" instead of "invented"?
    2321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1730157)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would not have guessed #4 as Johnny Depp.


    :)
    2322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1730126)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which one is me?

    If your avatar is you now, I would guess #1 and/or #4
    #2 has a longer face and nose, and #3 I've seen on TV.

    But I've been fooled by pictures posted here before.


    1) Robby Takac, bassist and some vocals for the Buffalo band the Goo Goo Dolls.

    (I think I look like him when I wake up in the morning.)

    2) Drake Hogestyn of "Days of Our Lives".
    3) Dave Grohl, drummer for Nirvana and now guitars/vocals for The Foo Fighters.
    4) Johnny Depp.

    7 years ago, a student snapped his fingers and said "This has been bugging me all semester. I finally figured out. I know who you remind me of: you're some weird combination of Dave Grohl and Johnny Depp."

    Since then, I've heard the Johnny Depp thing 3 more times.

    Unfortunately, it hasn't been women saying it.
    2323) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1730120)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    God was invented by the small minority of clever "Haves" to keep the vast majority "have nots" from stealing their booty. So they invented the concept of heaven and a big reward after you die to dissuade the have nots from breaking their laws. Great scam, because when you are dead it's hard to come back and complain that you were bilked.

    It was relatively easy to control or eliminate those who didn't buy the lie by promising loyal soldiers an even bigger piece of the pie, again after they died.


    You stated the essence of that before.
    You never responded to my legitimate question.
    The haves and have-nots is perhaps 12000 years old, from around the time of domestication of animals and agriculture beginning.
    Evidence of worship goes back at least 30000-40000 years.
    So, was God invented by those you claim or, once they came to be (with the God concept already in existence), did they take advantage of it along with so many other things they take advantage of?
    2324) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1730057)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2) Again, you've evaded something I've brought up that I do not think is necessarily minor. I've read Marx, and I've read research by Soviet researchers on math education. While they tried to get things to fit the Soviet mold, they did not focus on one thing. So, again, I ask: what biological imperative, if any, might have pragmatically inspired the concept of private property in the first place? (Whether rules have kept the concept in place is another issue and is not the one I am addressing.)

    (On a perhaps related note: why do any socialists get married?)

    Biological imperative? None. I think it more or less happened when we stopped being hunter gatherers and started settling down and working the land. I suppose that once we started living in separate houses and working individual plots of land, its likely that people start to designate their houses and the land they work as theirs.

    But biological imperative? Yeah, that doesn't exist as far as I know. Also, there are still tribes around the world that don't recognize the idea of private property.


    Sounds like some sweeping generalizations in these last two posts.
    Perhaps I should be asking anthropologists, biologists and historians.
    Also, at least some of those tribes you were referring to were exploring longer and perhaps had the idea of private property re-imposed upon them by those that had settled a long time before beginning to explore again.
    2325) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1730054)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy who is now Brutus, you are smoking better stuff than is allowed in my part of the country.


    This "currency reset" is what was behind the video Ron Paul kept advertising on TV all summer. I watched maybe 30 minutes of it and heard of no concrete suggestions for how to survive it, let alone whether to believe it is coming. I believe it all stems from belief in Revelations. So, if anybody's got any evidence that it's deeper than end times hysteria, start posting it.

    If there really was going to be this "currency reset" the feds would have been forced to put $500 and $1000 bills back into circulation. We might get a little beep when the penny goes away, but I wouldn't call that a reset.

    Oh how to survive it is advertised on the news radio station I listen to for the traffic reports going in to work in the morning. The ad is for a currency exchange with limit orders, forward contracts, hedging tools, etc. You do have to know how to play the game or you can get burned real bad.


    So, no extra guns, 3 months worth of food and magic-don't-get-sick-from-radiation medicine?
    2326) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1729997)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy who is now Brutus, you are smoking better stuff than is allowed in my part of the country.


    This "currency reset" is what was behind the video Ron Paul kept advertising on TV all summer. I watched maybe 30 minutes of it and heard of no concrete suggestions for how to survive it, let alone whether to believe it is coming. I believe it all stems from belief in Revelations. So, if anybody's got any evidence that it's deeper than end times hysteria, start posting it.
    2327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beet's give us a caption #62 (Message 1729988)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The choice having devolved to me, CAPTION This!:


    Eastern Grey Squirrel A 9-19-14 by Paul Sullivan, on Flickr

    Photo Copyright © 2014, Paul Sullivan, all rights reserved...

    Must be a really long weekend, Mark, if it starts on a Monday... [snicker...]


    1) "Mom said we're flyig squirrels. So, why do I have to climb to the top of the tree?"

    2) "This is me, a squirrel, after a weekend around Mark's cats!"
    2328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Real Pictures of Real Seti Friends (Message 1729981)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which one is me?







    2329) Message boards : Politics : Vote Canada!!....All hail Little Boots, Emperor! (Message 1729963)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet he could take out Putin in fight.


    Only if hugging and kissing are allowed...


    edit:
    I certainly agree that we can't have Dear Leader back...

    Indeed. I would absolutely recommend tactical voting where ever you are.


    Tactical voting for tactile politicians?
    2330) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1729962)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ouch.
    After all the fretting a few years back about 47% not paying taxes and generally supposedly being lazy, now Trump is saying many of them might not be taxed under his plan? Did I hear/understand this correctly?

    You don't really expect logical consistency in political matters do you?


    I never claimed to be an economist nor to have even had a class in macro or micro. What I am referring to is what this will do to his support. However, yes, even that could refer to logical consistency: will the people that complained about it 3-5 years ago that now support Trump continue to support him with this plan unveiled?
    2331) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1729957)
    Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, any state which *relies* on federal funding to maintain *any* state program. (ya… ya… blue states pay for red states if you google it, but there are several things those data collectors are not taking into consideration such as military installations and large government contractors. Besides, that’s immaterial. So, before you point this out let me say YES, let the RED states fail! Though, I’m sure you’d see something different.)


    As someone that grew up in a blue state (though it was not obvious to me until I left), I know there are several bases there. (Including a major base where Air National Guard had people report for monthly duty. Care to guess how I know that?) I'm sure that's still true after the cutbacks of the Clinton era.

    So, while I dislike the idea of important things being left out of consideration, I wonder if, across the red, blue and purple states, the expenditures (or percentages?) wind up about equal or not.

    As for your last few sentences, well, it's been posted about here before and I've done some additional search-engining (Google is not my go to for searches but I occasionally use Google Scholar).

    I think you know me well enough to know that I am not going to post something if I do not know a lot about it, unless I am throwing an idea or a question out there. So, why this suggestion "I'm sure you'd see something different"?
    2332) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1729953)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ouch.
    After all the fretting a few years back about 47% not paying taxes and generally supposedly being lazy, now Trump is saying many of them might not be taxed under his plan? Did I hear/understand this correctly?
    2333) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1729947)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i believe the topic is
    "Obama using words, and saying stuff, but not to Pukes".
    Is it a problem of words, or Pukes?


    I thought the topic was "Obama should never be allowed to speak"?
    2334) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1729945)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet Obama could take Putin in a fight.
    He'd just punch his lights out while Putin was taking off his shirt.
    Putin would run home crying to his mother Russia.


    Though I hear Putin is hellagood at BasketBall.


    Yeah, but Chuck Norris can slam a basketball without jumping.


    And he's single-handedly protected Texas from Jade Helm 15!


    He was also once bitten by a snake in Texas, and after 3 agonizingly painful days, the snake finally died.


    Norris for Prime Minister?
    2335) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729941)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, but that's how Phil Robertson (Duck Commander) would behave if it were proven to him that there's no God (or that some other religion was "the correct one" instead of his.)

    I think he said thats how he thinks other people would behave if there really wasn't a god.

    It is my claim that laws came from practical considerations. The practical considerations could have existed for millenia before being codified into laws.

    Well sure, all these laws regulating private property do come from the practical considerations of keeping private property a thing. But that doesn't mean that private property has practical or logical reasons for existing and by extensions it makes all these rules that aim to protect private property rules based on personal beliefs. Namely the belief that private property is something that should be kept intact.


    1) His hypothetical scenario not only to applies to his thinking that atheists are immoral and unethical, but also to what he must think would happen to Christian behavior if they suddenly found out they were wrong.

    (Without looking up Es' specific post, it was because of Robertson's sick rant that I said, "Sure, some people need religion." And Ozz recently pointed out that there are other ways to kick alcoholism than Alcoholics Anonymous and its implicit/explicit reference to a higher power.)

    2) Again, you've evaded something I've brought up that I do not think is necessarily minor. I've read Marx, and I've read research by Soviet researchers on math education. While they tried to get things to fit the Soviet mold, they did not focus on one thing. So, again, I ask: what biological imperative, if any, might have pragmatically inspired the concept of private property in the first place? (Whether rules have kept the concept in place is another issue and is not the one I am addressing.)

    (On a perhaps related note: why do any socialists get married?)
    2336) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729940)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, yeah ... but, no.

    We don't kill (generally) because of pragmatic reasons. If we're free to kill whomever we wish whenever we want, we are subject to being killed just as easily. Since many tend to want to live as long as they can, we don't kill others in hopes that they'll think the same way and decide not to kill us either.

    Really? You mean to say that the only reason you don't want to kill people is because you are afraid you might get killed in return? But otherwise you got no moral or ethical objections to killing people?

    Here I thought the golden rule was a pretty good reason. I guess some people need a stone tablet, probably applied repeatedly to their cranium, to catch on.


    Pretty much my point.
    Why is it we wish other do not bad things unto us?
    2337) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1729939)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet Obama could take Putin in a fight.
    He'd just punch his lights out while Putin was taking off his shirt.
    Putin would run home crying to his mother Russia.


    Though I hear Putin is hellagood at BasketBall.


    Yeah, but Chuck Norris can slam a basketball without jumping.


    And he's single-handedly protected Texas from Jade Helm 15!
    2338) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1729936)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only advertising that exceeds that of Pharmaceuticals is that of the Pharmaceutical Mal-Practice attorneys..........any questions?

    SCOTUS did that for us when they said the State Bar Associations could not prevent shysters from advertising. Something about the First Amendment.


    Am I correct that was not too long before 1995?
    2339) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729909)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, yeah ... but, no.

    We don't kill (generally) because of pragmatic reasons. If we're free to kill whomever we wish whenever we want, we are subject to being killed just as easily. Since many tend to want to live as long as they can, we don't kill others in hopes that they'll think the same way and decide not to kill us either.

    Really? You mean to say that the only reason you don't want to kill people is because you are afraid you might get killed in return? But otherwise you got no moral or ethical objections to killing people?


    No, but that's how Phil Robertson (Duck Commander) would behave if it were proven to him that there's no God (or that some other religion was "the correct one" instead of his.)

    But fine, in the end your logic holds so its possible to argue that there is a logical reason not to promote pointless murder, or at least regulate when murder is acceptable and when it isn't. Thats one example against a whole host of laws and rules that exist because we all feel that they should exist based on our personal beliefs.


    It is my claim that laws came from practical considerations. The practical considerations could have existed for millenia before being codified into laws.

    And unlike say pointless murder, there is no logical reason for private property to even exist.


    What do areas such as biology and psychology have to say about the need for privacy? How does one have any time away from others if they have no private place to go? If they have a place to go, but it is not owned (or rented), then the possibility of privacy being invade may be greater because then why does someone else have to respect the desire for privacy in a public place? Are you so sure there's nothing pragmatic behind the development of the private property concept and the laws to uphold it?
    2340) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729889)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Why have, and continue to be, murder and rape been "bad ideas" (to put it mildly).

    2) Why was eating pork a bad idea? Why do Jews and Muslims still have a rule about it? Why do Christians not, when Jesus never said part of the New Covenant was the removal of the rule against eating pork? Is there a reason eating pork is no longer a bad idea?

    3) Why was sex between two men a bad idea in the past? What was different then that may not have continued in to the present?

    EDIT: Sure, if you need to believe to be good, that's fine. Right.

    Answers:
    1. if u need an answer 2 that Q, u definitively need a psychiatric help!

    2.
    - try to slaughter a pork in Middle east & prepare d meat...it will B clear 2 u! also, there is a problem about pork eating habits & it's meat...
    - they live in Middle east...
    - rule against eating pork was in Bible 'cause of their eating habits & it's meat...but many don't practice that rule...Christan & other...
    - no, eating pork is still a bad idea...nutritionally!

    3. gay sex is all about dominance & submission - analog 2 animal kind...even in old Greek a small boy would give himself 2 older man, but when he grows up he would dominate other boys...so nothing has changed!
    also, all faiths says we r all equal...
    ;)


    So, if the English swear word is not an abbreviation of "for unlawful carnal knowledge" but rather the English equivalent of the German "fokken" = "to strike" ... ?
    2341) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729888)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, if you want to account for all the bad things religion supposedly causes, you also need to account all the good things religion also causes. And in general, the overwhelming majority of religious people are good people who in their way try to do good. And often, their way of doing good doesn't even differ from the way atheists try to do good.

    I agree that some people need religion to be good people, that's fine, atheists can also do good things and be good people. However, what you do see is religious people using their religion to justify bad things.


    Meant in all seriousness ... .
    Discuss the following:

    1) Why have, and continue to be, murder and rape been "bad ideas" (to put it mildly).

    2) Why was eating pork a bad idea? Why do Jews and Muslims still have a rule about it? Why do Christians not, when Jesus never said part of the New Covenant was the removal of the rule against eating pork? Is there a reason eating pork is no longer a bad idea?

    3) Why was sex between two men a bad idea in the past? What was different then that may not have continued in to the present?

    EDIT: Sure, if you need to believe to be good, that's fine. Right.


    And now that I have given my own opinion on #1 in the question I asked (and I bet we could back up this hypothesis), anyone care to try #s 2 and 3 again?
    2342) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1729885)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet Obama could take Putin in a fight.
    He'd just punch his lights out while Putin was taking off his shirt.
    Putin would run home crying to his mother Russia.


    Though I hear Putin is hellagood at BasketBall.
    2343) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729884)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, as I've argued before, all laws and rules made by humans and that rule society are based on someones personal beliefs.


    Ummm, yeah ... but, no.

    We don't kill (generally) because of pragmatic reasons. If we're free to kill whomever we wish whenever we want, we are subject to being killed just as easily. Since many tend to want to live as long as they can, we don't kill others in hopes that they'll think the same way and decide not to kill us either.
    2344) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1729871)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only advertising that exceeds that of Pharmaceuticals is that of the Pharmaceutical Mal-Practice attorneys..........any questions?


    So obvious.
    But it started around 1995 and was satirized in a great science fiction show.
    Here is a ripoff of what was in that show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6pMgPfvbjw.

    "Comrade, comrade, get on down. Get that grain right into town.

    "Pledge your support for public television ... or else. We know who you are."
    2345) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1729859)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Hey Hey, InsaneBlabbin'DroneHItManPitifulPeacePrizin'Hustlin'Hussein 'is' Speechifying Again at Da U N.

    Man 'O Live, what A Bunch of BULL SHAT this Community Destroyer 'is' Shovelin'.

    Everytime This Freak Speaks, things Worldwide Go mO to Shat.

    Save U S GOD. Please, from This IDIOT.

    General MacArthur, Where Are You?

    Nuke 'em, if you Gots 'em.

    yep Yup fO shO


    So ... free speech makes you nauseous?
    2346) Message boards : Politics : OMFG..............free speach? (Message 1729826)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To follow up on my previous post, as one spending much time on campuses, the bigger concern is whether faculty/staff can speak out freely against the actions of Provosts, Presidents, Board of Governors and Chancellors.

    100% correct. I too spent decades on Campus.

    I do not understand why those in positions of authority, and professing to be Liberal. Will take negative actions , against those who disagree.

    Perhaps another example of the 'Of us, by us, and for us' position, All Authority finally succumbs to.

    I did not realize that in order to be a member of the group "Provosts, Presidents, Board of Governors and Chancellors" one first had to profess to being a liberal. If this is not a prerequisite, is there a comparison of the negative actions taken by those that are liberal to those that are not?


    Nor a prerequisite to being a faculty or staff member.
    2347) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1729804)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems like our American friends are being screwed twice for their medicines.

    The manufacturers claiming the need to charge high prices so they can research new and better drugs, when they actually spend more on PR and advertising. And what they do spend on research is on making their own slightly different version of known drugs.

    While all the time the US government is spending taxes to fund the Universities to research completely new drugs. This is then sold to the pharmaceutical companies for pennies.

    washington post - Why do drug companies charge so much? Because they can.


    What's wrong with advertising? The ones for .... male ... problems are hilarious! Someday soon, I shall go to my doctor and be asked to be prescribed everything advertised for problems I do not have. LOL!

    I'll answer that with a question.

    Why do prescription drugs need to be advertised to the general public?

    Are you saying that the American in the street is qualified to make choice between drug A and drug B. If so then show me evidence because I see signs of it, the average American seems just as uneducated as the average Brit.


    I was being sarcastic.
    Clearly, much of what of is advertised is not widely-used because it is not widely-needed.
    I also seem to recall a law was changed or passed in the not-so-distance past to allow this type of advertising in the first place. We didn't see this junk when we were much younger.
    2348) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1729799)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Scared Democracy does...

    All wars are terrible. The Moral Side uses the exact same tactics to win the war, as its Evil Adversary. In this case the Jihadists. In the past - The Nazis.

    The Moral Side wins, if they kill and destroy their Enemy's Soldiers, Supporters, Income, War making Capability, and if need be, their Family's. At a far greater rate than the Enemy can.

    This is the Historical problem a Moral Democracy has:

    Its unwillingness to accept what must be done, until the Threat becomes so immediate, that the reaction is more terrible, than needed to be done in the past.

    This is one of those instances, where the Ethical and Moral, as you are Мишель, causes more deaths and destruction, by not acting sooner.


    So true Clyde so let's roll out those nukes and be done with the whole area .

    Sounds cruel but i can see no other way to solve the problem as all side there are to blame so nuke them all and be done with it
    .


    And, of course, everyone were worried about is in the same area. No one exists elsewhere that will dream of revenge.

    Another (what else is new) mischaracterization of my position.

    Can you stop with the silly Debating Point of 'If you are for Free Speech, you are for falsely yelling fire...'

    This is an Intelligent Discussion. Not a 'Winner Take All', brainless and boring Debate.


    W-in-T-ever-lovin'-F are you TALKING ABOUT?

    I did NOT mischaracterize YOUR position, SILENCER!!!
    I responded to GLENN'S response to your comment.
    Are you BLIND?!? ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    The follow-up to Glenn's scenario of nuking the Middle East is that people in Dearborn, MI will want revenge. That's not just idle speculation. It's a very real possibility.
    Quit your whining debating tactics.
    2349) Message boards : Politics : Religion in government (Message 1729764)
    Posted 28 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    God the Idea does not exist outside religion. It is a religious concept, and acknowledgement of that concept is to endorse religion.

    Yes it does. There are plenty of people who believe in God without being part of some religion, myself being one of them.

    No, that is not my definition of religion.

    Well then I'm having trouble following you. If the act of believing in God is not religion, then how is it possible that believing in God automatically means you are religious, and endorsing the idea of God is endorsing the idea of religion?


    Unfortunately, unless you are scrupulously engaging in some activity of intense interest to you, according to Merriam-Webster's dictionary, Ozz is correct.

    As for religions without gods, I take issue with that: some sects of Buddhism make this claim, but as it is an offshoot of Hinduism and seeking for individuals to escape the Samsaric cycle, one must admit in its original conception Buddhism had gods.
    2350) Message boards : Politics : OMFG..............free speach? (Message 1729652)
    Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To follow up on my previous post, as one spending much time on campuses, the bigger concern is whether faculty/staff can speak out freely against the actions of Provosts, Presidents, Board of Governors and Chancellors.
    2351) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1729649)
    Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This country was created on the principle that there is a higher authority and that each of us will ultimately be held accountable for our trespasses against one other.
    You seem to be confused as to what country you are a citizen of. You are not a citizen of the country that failed and used the Articles of Confederation.
    Declaration wrote:
    Laws of Nature and of Nature's God

    Articles wrote:
    Great Governor of the World

    But: Constitution wrote:
    We the People
    is not a reference to some mythical being in the sky who will punish or reward you.

    LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!
    WWJD?
    All this liberal bashing from someone who claims to follow Jesus. Why do you bash Jesus? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/12/09/jesus-christ-liberal/

    What's crazy is the liberal's insistence on this course which brings down the U.S.
    So your answer is to destroy the only shining light on this planet because you are a greedy bastard who doesn't want to live the pauper's life your lord god has ordained.

    the outright assault on the Christian religions
    The only such assault is being carried out by minions of Satan who preach adherence to some or all of the deadly sins to the exclusion of all else.
      Greed
      Envy
      Gluttony
      Sloth
      Wrath
      Lust
      Pride


    In any case this describes the absolute refusal to help fellow citizens or states very well as a deadly sin.

    LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!
    WWJD? I don't think Jesus would let them fail. Now Lucifer would!
    Of course you could do as the signers of the Declaration did and give up your worldly possessions and become one with Jesus' commands.Declaration wrote:
    we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

    You have framed your post that your god demands a government shutdown because of abortion. Your god does no such thing. Your god does demand that you relieve suffering. You refuse that because you follow the deadly sin of greed and lust of money. You refuse to relieve her suffering by paying for an abortion. Then you compound her suffering by refusing to clothe, feed, and house her and her child, refuse to give her child a good environment to grow. That is another deadly sin, wrath. You even take pride in your proposed actions! I could go on, but an agent of Luicifer will never back down from his job to harvest souls, so there is little point.

    The path of religious fundamentalism is the path to Satan's trick trap door.

    OB: It does seem inevitable that Lucifer's minion, the Tea Party, will win their pyrrhic victory and there will be a Government Shutdown, likely right before Christmas shopping season so that Government checks won't go out, the best time to cause the most damage to the economy. Talk about wicked evil plots!


    I'm also curious which states he thinks are failed?
    2352) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1729585)
    Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A Scared Democracy does...

    All wars are terrible. The Moral Side uses the exact same tactics to win the war, as its Evil Adversary. In this case the Jihadists. In the past - The Nazis.

    The Moral Side wins, if they kill and destroy their Enemy's Soldiers, Supporters, Income, War making Capability, and if need be, their Family's. At a far greater rate than the Enemy can.

    This is the Historical problem a Moral Democracy has:

    Its unwillingness to accept what must be done, until the Threat becomes so immediate, that the reaction is more terrible, than needed to be done in the past.

    This is one of those instances, where the Ethical and Moral, as you are Мишель, causes more deaths and destruction, by not acting sooner.


    So true Clyde so let's roll out those nukes and be done with the whole area .

    Sounds cruel but i can see no other way to solve the problem as all side there are to blame so nuke them all and be done with it .


    And, of course, everyone were worried about is in the same area. No one exists elsewhere that will dream of revenge.
    2353) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1729561)
    Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems like our American friends are being screwed twice for their medicines.

    The manufacturers claiming the need to charge high prices so they can research new and better drugs, when they actually spend more on PR and advertising. And what they do spend on research is on making their own slightly different version of known drugs.

    While all the time the US government is spending taxes to fund the Universities to research completely new drugs. This is then sold to the pharmaceutical companies for pennies.

    washington post - Why do drug companies charge so much? Because they can.


    What's wrong with advertising? The ones for .... male ... problems are hilarious! Someday soon, I shall go to my doctor and be asked to be prescribed everything advertised for problems I do not have. LOL!
    2354) Message boards : Politics : OMFG..............free speach? (Message 1729446)
    Posted 27 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spend some time on campuses and find out if its real.

    Myself, on campuses where I've studied (and taught as a GTA) or just taught, I've done imitations of Reagan, Bush and Clinton for years and a minor imitation of Obama more recently. (Putting my hand out, pointing my index finger left, saying "We're ... uhhh ... gonna move this country ... uhhh, forward.")

    Since people have wondered with each new President if now the Anti-Christ has arrived, I say, "The Anti-Christ is supposed to be charming, but Obama says 'uhhh' too much and his suit jacket buttons clack on the podium, so he can't be the Anti-Christ."

    Still not called before the university President, Provost or whatever.
    2355) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729224)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does inability to communicate toward or away from the existence of God? Or neither?
    2356) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1729223)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, please.
    Get over yourself already.
    Silencer, leave Janne and his flag. Alone.
    The topic is. Racist?

    I wonder what Janne and his flag has to do with racism to do:)
    Anyway. Racism is a subset of xenophobia. Full period.


    Careful, the anti-PC brigade may call you a xenophobe for calling xenophobia what it is.
    2357) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1729222)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Translation: fe.....ts just want to make m.n feel bad and they are id.....es?

    ferrets?


    Quite possibly.
    2358) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1729220)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread all cleaned up and refreshed ...
    Continued from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75026

    In the absence of any contrary evidence Thor must be accepted as the designer of the universe. Prove it wrong.

    ALL HAIL THOR!


    May we continue to celebrate Thor and all His Thoriness in a thinking and un-silenced way?
    2359) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1729151)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Translation: fe.....ts just want to make m.n feel bad and they are id.....es?
    2360) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1729148)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, please.
    Get over yourself already.
    Silencer, leave Janne and his flag. Alone.
    The topic is. Racist?
    2361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I ain't played for anybody in years............... (Message 1729073)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning post for the night!
    2362) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729070)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

    That is their problem.


    You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.


    I wonder what it makes people that spent 33 years as a Christian, 13 years as an agnostic somewhat sympathetic and certainly willing to defend people's right to believe to finally an atheist of about 1 year (and still willing defend)?


    It makes them i....s.


    And fa....al no.-th....ng!
    2363) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729054)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

    That is their problem.


    You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.


    I wonder what it makes people that spent 33 years as a Christian, 13 years as an agnostic somewhat sympathetic and certainly willing to defend people's right to believe to finally an atheist of about 1 year (and still willing defend)?
    2364) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1729034)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Figgers.
    2365) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1729033)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And here, too? Well, hello there, person against people being silenced but works hard to silence them.
    2366) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1729032)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And The Silencer makes his Friday evening appearance.
    2367) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1729031)
    Posted 26 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, now we cannot say f..g according to The Silencer.
    2368) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1728930)
    Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, "PC" has become an insult? Much like "ideo...gue"? Those using the term(s) are "deliberately hostile or insulting ... intended to annoy or antagonize other people", right?

    I think its less of an insult and more like a way to shut down a discussion. You know, kinda like how *some* people here hold it against others if they are 'intellectuals' or 'academics'. No one will feel insulted if they are called smart, but in the context of a discussion it can be used to dismiss someones argument without actually going into the argument. Its a really cheap and lazy rhetorical trick.


    If C***e only understood I'm half hillbilly. :)
    2369) Message boards : Politics : Government Shutdown (Message 1728903)
    Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe there is a thread on Canadian politics, so please keep that discussion there.


    Eh?
    2370) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1728901)
    Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PC. Have you noticed that no matter the word used to refer to a group, eventually it becomes insulting ...


    Usually because it starts being used in the pejorative sense to denigrate someone. Take my two previous examples of retard or gay - both had perfectly innocent meanings and usage until, like I said, people used it to insult others. Once the word is used in a pejorative or negative manner, no one wants to be associate with the word anymore.


    So, "PC" has become an insult? Much like "ideo...gue"? Those using the term(s) are "deliberately hostile or insulting ... intended to annoy or antagonize other people", right?

    Only when referencing a specific individual or group.
    <ed>Of course for the mods the specific individual or group referenced would generally have to be a reader at Seti to trigger action. So as we have lots of posts talking about "ideo...gue" here, there must not be any of them who frequent the boards! ;)


    Because we all love each other and would never push one another's buttons. :)
    2371) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1728832)
    Posted 25 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PC. Have you noticed that no matter the word used to refer to a group, eventually it becomes insulting ...


    Usually because it starts being used in the pejorative sense to denigrate someone. Take my two previous examples of retard or gay - both had perfectly innocent meanings and usage until, like I said, people used it to insult others. Once the word is used in a pejorative or negative manner, no one wants to be associate with the word anymore.


    So, "PC" has become an insult? Much like "ideo...gue"? Those using the term(s) are "deliberately hostile or insulting ... intended to annoy or antagonize other people", right?
    2372) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728630)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're evading the main point. If it's just a bunch of beautiful allegories, why should we believe there was anything divine behind it??

    Divine behind what? Our self awareness?


    If you wish to ask that question as well, fine. I think it's quite clear what I'm talking about. The Bible is claimed to be telling us the story of God's interaction with humanity. Is it merely a beautiful story or is it something divinely inspired (or even the inerrant word of God)? If it's just a beautiful story, then what the heck are we doing worshiping something that's just a story? Or, if beautiful stories inspire worship, how about "1984", "The Hunger Games", "Crime and Punishment" and "Othello" as well?
    2373) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728505)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And if we view it only as a beautiful allegory, essentially removing God from the "equation" ... ?

    Well then it would make it just another story from the Bible that you shouldn't take as literal history.


    So, I should worship the Jewish, or Christian, or any other God, because ... ?
    Because humans can write beautiful allegorical stories ... ?
    Or ... ?

    You should worship whatever God you want because you feel you want to worship that God. I can't give you any reasons for why you should worship God and as far as I'm concerned, its a personal choice that you have to make for your own reasons.


    You're evading the main point. If it's just a bunch of beautiful allegories, why should we believe there was anything divine behind it??
    2374) Message boards : Politics : Vote Canada!!....All hail Little Boots, Emperor! (Message 1728374)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we all still paying attention?



    Eh? :)
    2375) Message boards : Politics : Term Limits (Message 1728373)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is for term limits on US Representatives and Senators?
    I think many to all of us are, including myself, for various reasons.
    Besides the difficulty of those in power trying to hold onto it, what (if any) practical difficulties do you foresee?
    2376) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1728366)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe you will find this relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC13vq4ZDsA.


    So is this:


    and this:


    As he recently publicly stated again, he essentially does not believe our discussions actually serve any purpose. That no hearts and minds have changed. This despite links to posts from nearly 10 years ago that, when compared to the posts of today, show clear changes. One wonders, not only why so much patience is showed to him, but why he bothers with us if we are really what he claims we are.

    To the "he" I refer to: you stated recently, essentially, woe to us if I and my type ever come to power. 8 years ago, a mod offered me a mod position here. Project administrator Eric Korpela was cc'd on the e-mail. As a mod himself at the time, OzzFan may be able to corroborate my story. (If he can, so can KWSN MajorKong.) I had previously stated publicly and privately I had no desire to be a mod, even if how moderation occurred back then needed revision. When the offer came, I turned it down. On the other hand, Brutus (formally known as Guy and a few other handles), when offered, accepted a modship. We know the result of the disappeared posts.

    Do bear that in mind when you rant on about types and people desiring power and what we'll do if and when we get it, mmmkay?
    2377) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1728350)
    Posted 24 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PC = Deciding who cannot be offended, and who it is correct (and the duty of all) to offend.

    Of course. PC it is just a mechanism to Control Populations.


    PC is an attempt to change people's minds and perceptions. Often terms are used in a very negative fashion, such as retard or gay, to call people names. Retard, of course, originally meant slow, or mentally slow, but in time was used to offend those who didn't catch on quickly enough. Gay of course meant happy, but has been used with very negative connotations, such as when you dislike something you call it gay, thus equating gay with bad or terrible.

    Of course, the anti-PC brigade has to put a negative spin on the idea of trying not to offend people that they have to make PC sound bad so that they can continue using words in the ways described above without caring about other people's feelings.

    And yes, I do think in some cases being politically incorrect goes too far, such as calling a garbage man "sanitation and waste management" or a janitor as "building services" or "building custodian".

    All Power, including who decides who cannot, and who must be offended.

    Will end up destroying freedoms.

    OzzFan...

    When I contemplate any issue. I have only one question.

    Would I like to have my, and possibly humanities enemies, controlling this?

    If not. Then it goes into the garbage can.

    You really want the possibly that The Right, or Religious Fanatics may - in the future - control of your speech?

    Since neither you, nor anyone else can ensure 'they' will be in power: PC has to go into the garbage can.

    Note: This is why all must be eternally vigilant against, or at least reduce, any power.


    /sigh It's not about power. It's about empathy.


    I believe you will find this relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC13vq4ZDsA.
    2378) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1728251)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge it is a good thing that the one who was once a worm is being ignored, life gets better all the time.


    He must defend my rights the same as we must defend his.

    Absolutely.


    I believe every post made here by Sarge and "Ugly American" are both irrelevant and highly relevant. "Ugly Amercian", will you stand by me as I believe this and preach our word of contradictory relevance?
    2379) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1728244)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hansen: Recall the lessons of Adam Smith, the father of modern economics. "In competition …"
    Everybody: "… individual ambition serves the common good."
    John: [after thinking] Adam Smith needs revision.
    Hansen: What are you talking about?
    John: Adam Smith said the best result comes from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself. Right? That's what he said, right?
    Hansen: Right.
    John: Incomplete. Incomplete, okay? Because the best result will come from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself … and the group.
    Hansen: Nash, if this is some way for you to get the blonde on your own, you can go to hell.
    John: Governing dynamics, gentlemen. Governing dynamics. Adam Smith...he was wrong.


    How close was what Nash said in the movie to what he really did and proved?
    Does this apply to the current topic?


    Yes. In a way.

    In regards to that $750/pill story, as an example...

    In competition, individual ambition serves the common group. Absolutely.

    The individual ambition: make some money.
    The drug: pyrimethamine.

    It has been noted that the cost for making it was about $1/pill.
    It sold for $13.50/pill BEFORE the hedge-funder bought the rights to the name brand medication and raised the selling price to $750/pill.

    Someone wants to make some more money? Buy or build a drug factory. Start cranking out pyrimethamine (and a number of other generics in similar situations). Sell them for, oh, I dunno... 3x or 4x cost.

    So, 3 or 4 dollars a pill. Much LESS than the price for the pill BEFORE the hedge-funder bought into it. Still a nice profit.

    Individual ambition DOES serve the common good.


    Not a denial or a confirmation, but a follow up. Is not the hedge funder also flexing his or her individual ambition?

    Or, are you saying, those that sold it for only 3 to 4 times the cost were an example of those following Nash's idea?
    2380) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1728226)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Emphasis added.)


    And, as usual, irrelevant to the conversation.

    LOLOL...


    Get your act together.
    If Kong had missed something, or the person he responded to had, it is relevant.
    And Kong has made a long response to a relevant question I asked.
    2381) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728224)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And if we view it only as a beautiful allegory, essentially removing God from the "equation" ... ?

    Well then it would make it just another story from the Bible that you shouldn't take as literal history.


    So, I should worship the Jewish, or Christian, or any other God, because ... ?
    Because humans can write beautiful allegorical stories ... ?
    Or ... ?
    2382) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1728198)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can read, Sarge. I saw his word 'thousand'. But, as I said, that figure is the VAP, not the number of voters in the election. That is what I was responding to.


    I know you can read.
    We can all overlook something, though.
    2383) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1728196)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hansen: Recall the lessons of Adam Smith, the father of modern economics. "In competition …"
    Everybody: "… individual ambition serves the common good."
    John: [after thinking] Adam Smith needs revision.
    Hansen: What are you talking about?
    John: Adam Smith said the best result comes from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself. Right? That's what he said, right?
    Hansen: Right.
    John: Incomplete. Incomplete, okay? Because the best result will come from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself … and the group.
    Hansen: Nash, if this is some way for you to get the blonde on your own, you can go to hell.
    John: Governing dynamics, gentlemen. Governing dynamics. Adam Smith...he was wrong.


    How close was what Nash said in the movie to what he really did and proved?
    Does this apply to the current topic?
    2384) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1728190)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Tax them and let that money go to healtcare:)

    I wonder why the US let those companies cashing in.
    On the other hand US people doesn't seem to care.
    Only 235,248 voted in the last election.


    Which election would that be? The last 'national' general election in the USA was the 2014 'midterm'.

    Sorry MajorKong:) I'm getting old.
    It was 235,248 thousand that voted in 2012 with a turnout of 54.9%.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections


    Umm... no. Per that Wikipedia article that was a voting age population (VAP) of 235,248,000. There were 129,235,000 people voting in that election, for a turnout of 54.9% (as you said).

    Per the data source I quoted, found here on another page on that site:

    http://www.electproject.org/2012g

    The Voting-Age Population (VAP) was 240,257,993.
    The Voting-Eligable Population (VEP) was 222,381,268. (not everyone of voting age in the USA can vote. Non-citizens, and convicted felons can not.
    130,292,355 total ballots were counted, making the VEP turnout 58.6%.

    Still, over half the people voted, no matter whose data-set you look at or which counting method used.

    That is hardly a LOW turnout.


    235,248 thousand

    (Emphasis added.)
    2385) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728166)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To me, the tale of the Garden of Eden is a warning to the ignorant not to try to apply critical thinking and knowledge towards debunking the entire bible. It is a warning not to do too much science and logic.

    You do realize that the story existed before 'science' was ever a thing right?

    And its a shame, I think its actually a beautiful allegorical story of how humanity evolved from animal incapable of self awareness to a being with the brains capable of introspection and critical thinking.


    And if we view it only as a beautiful allegory, essentially removing God from the "equation" ... ?
    2386) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728162)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yet, "we disregarded Gods command", thus, our sinful nature caused us to disregard God's command and sin, therefore causing our sinful nature.

    Thats circular logic. We sin because we are sinful and we are sinful because we sinned.


    That's the point!

    This doesn't begin to even touch on the paradox of why God would put us to the test like that and allow the snake into the Garden of Eden. As you have claimed, being supernatural, paradoxes don't apply to the Christian God. But they sure do apply to us and our nature, do they not?

    I am not entirely convinced that this is a paradox. Also, paradoxes don't apply to any all powerful God, be they the Christian one or not.


    As I already said, this is not being applied to any (G/g)od, it is a paradox applied to us and our natures.
    2387) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1728144)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe Michel said a few points back that God is not subject to the paradoxes we consider.

    I stumbled on to a video a few days ago that raises an interesting point, involving a paradox for humans, not God.

    The Christian God sent Jesus to forgive us of our sins if we accept Jesus. That only makes sense if sin exists in the Jewish/Christian sense, following on original sin.

    So, why did we disobey God with the eating of the fruit of knowledge? Because we (Adam and Eve) were sinful? Weren't we originally innocent? So where did that rebellious nature/sinfulness come from if we were originally innocent? Eating the fruit was the result of the sin of rebelling which caused us to be sinful creatures?

    I think it goes like this (according to the bible). Before we ate the apple, we lacked self awareness and we basically lived like animals. An animal is not sinful because it lacks the self awareness to differentiate between right or wrong, good or evil. An animal just does things because his nature tells him to do it. If an animal kills another creature, we don't see its evil because we know its in the nature of the animal to kill other creatures. So in that sense, we were innocent, because we lacked the self awareness to differentiate between right and wrong.

    After we ate the apple, we gained self awareness and with that also the knowledge to differentiate between right or wrong. That is also why, after we ate the apple in the story, we were suddenly ashamed of our nakedness.

    Anyways, were we sinful for eating the apple? No, we disregarded Gods command, we got tricked by the snake, but in the end, we were animals, we couldn't comprehend the consequences of our actions and we didn't know that what we did was wrong because we couldn't differentiate between right and wrong. Its like a dog pooping on the carpet, you may have told the dog not to poop inside the house, but its not like the dog ever realizes that what it did was 'wrong'.

    Now as for Jesus dying for our sins, I never really thought it meant he died for our 'original sin', more like he died for all our sins. What sins? Well, all of them, the many many sins we commit every day. I think sins there should be understood as 'general wrong doings' or 'unethical/immoral behavior'. And we do that a lot. When Jesus said 'he who is without sin cast the first stone' I don't think he referred specifically to the fact that our ancestors supposedly at the apple. I think he meant the fact that no one is perfectly ethical and moral all the time.


    If you accept we are sinful, in the sense as we would find in the Old Testament, then we are sinful because of "Original" Sin.

    The question, then, would be "How did we become sinners?" (If we never became sinful, we'd still be in Eden and Jesus would never have had to die for our sins.)

    If we were innocent beforehand (as you put it, "we were innocent, because we lacked the self awareness to differentiate between right and wrong"), then we were without sin. Hence, we were not and could not be rebellious toward God.

    we got tricked by the snake


    So, it was not rebellion toward God.
    Hence, eating the fruit was not caused by sin.

    Yet, "we disregarded Gods command", thus, our sinful nature caused us to disregard God's command and sin, therefore causing our sinful nature.

    This doesn't begin to even touch on the paradox of why God would put us to the test like that and allow the snake into the Garden of Eden. As you have claimed, being supernatural, paradoxes don't apply to the Christian God. But they sure do apply to us and our nature, do they not?
    2388) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1728134)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge it is a good thing that the one who was once a worm is being ignored, life gets better all the time.


    He must defend my rights the same as we must defend his.
    2389) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1727990)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, why did we disobey God with the eating of the fruit of knowledge? Because we (Adam and Eve) were sinful? Weren't we originally innocent? So where did that rebellious nature/sinfulness come from if we were originally innocent? Eating the fruit was the result of the sin of rebelling which caused us to be sinful creatures?

    It's autumn and the apples are ripe.
    I remember as a kid we sometimes knicked apples from our neighbors.
    I however don't remember that we got any knowledge from that:)


    I hear frequently nothing said it was an apple, just some kind of fruit.
    Here is the original source of the question.
    2390) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1727980)
    Posted 23 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And ... he's BaaaAAACK!

    Anyway, I believe 2 + 2 = 5 and Benjamin Franklin was our first president. Please defend my right to believe these things and, n fact, to even teach the former.
    2391) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1727953)
    Posted 22 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe Michel said a few points back that God is not subject to the paradoxes we consider.

    I stumbled on to a video a few days ago that raises an interesting point, involving a paradox for humans, not God.

    The Christian God sent Jesus to forgive us of our sins if we accept Jesus. That only makes sense if sin exists in the Jewish/Christian sense, following on original sin.

    So, why did we disobey God with the eating of the fruit of knowledge? Because we (Adam and Eve) were sinful? Weren't we originally innocent? So where did that rebellious nature/sinfulness come from if we were originally innocent? Eating the fruit was the result of the sin of rebelling which caused us to be sinful creatures?
    2392) Message boards : Politics : Monarchy v Republic (Message 1727576)
    Posted 21 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Technically GB is a constitutional monarchy nothing like the kingdoms of old when a king or queen had absolute power. Personally I have no problem with the system as it exists today. I just wonder when they will realise the error of their ways and start driving on the right side of the road :)

    We do drive on the right side, you lot drive on the wrong side!

    Typical British snobbery. We are right, everybody else is wrong ;)

    Japan, Australasia, India and a large chunk of southern Africa agrees with us.


    Why is that?
    Why are you not mentioning closer, European countries?
    :)

    Because we went to war with the last chap who marched across Europe forcing them to change driving sides.


    Yes, I'm sure it was which side of the road people drive on that was on the bloke's mind.
    2393) Message boards : Politics : Monarchy v Republic (Message 1727552)
    Posted 21 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Technically GB is a constitutional monarchy nothing like the kingdoms of old when a king or queen had absolute power. Personally I have no problem with the system as it exists today. I just wonder when they will realise the error of their ways and start driving on the right side of the road :)

    We do drive on the right side, you lot drive on the wrong side!

    Typical British snobbery. We are right, everybody else is wrong ;)

    Japan, Australasia, India and a large chunk of southern Africa agrees with us.


    Why is that?
    Why are you not mentioning closer, European countries?
    :)
    2394) Message boards : Politics : Monarchy v Republic (Message 1727445)
    Posted 21 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Technically GB is a constitutional monarchy nothing like the kingdoms of old when a king or queen had absolute power. Personally I have no problem with the system as it exists today. I just wonder when they will realise the error of their ways and start driving on the right side of the road :)

    Beg your pardon, but we drive on the correct side of the road.

    In days of old how would you have saluted or handled weapons when your right hand is in the center of the vehicle. Your right arm needs to be able to be outside of the vehicle.
    Does seem strange to me, that the USA a country that loves its guns so much, they disadvantage themselves by driving on the wrong side of the road.

    Have you heard the term shotgun? You know it derives from horse drawn wagons and the need to defend against redcoats. :)

    But a shotgun has the ability to move and turn, an option the driver hasn't.

    People have had to defend themselves in horse drawn wagon's long before the America's were even discovered.

    Also going by traffic stats, the majority of journeys only have the driver in the car, so no shotgun.


    About 200-300 years? If we go by the Columbus story?
    2395) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1727128)
    Posted 19 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So we agree that Citizens United (or many parts of it) is also bad?

    The donors who don't publicize their donations or intentions are the ones you should be worried about.

    See, we do have common ground.

    Citizens United Motto: Dedicated to restoring our government to citizen control.


    Does a motto have to really reflect the truth? Mirror intentions?
    2396) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1727125)
    Posted 19 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does anyone really believe there will be any Changing of Minds, regarding this Subject?

    +10 that's what I have been saying. These religion threads are a waste of space and time.

    And here I am contributing to the problem.


    No, you aren't.

    Don't fall for the trap, attempting to divide.

    There has been changing of minds.
    (Thus, no one need "believe" whether minds have been changed when faced when incontrovertible facts.)
    Evidence has been provided.

    Let us continue our discussion and do not fall for the divisive trap.
    2397) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : IG Nobel.. (Message 1726968)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    why I wasn't invited for a medical purposes IG Nobel? :D


    Ehhh, I dunno ... ?
    2398) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1726966)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So we agree that Citizens United (or many parts of it) is also bad?


    The donors who don't publicize their donations or intentions are the ones you should be worried about.


    See, we do have common ground.
    2399) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1726943)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, the only reason someone says one thing and then does another is because of donors?

    Or, is it because power corrupts?

    Or, something else?

    Or, some mixture of things?

    (How about learning the "true" true nature of the state of things, from the CIA, NSA, military etc. ... once one gets in the White House as another possibility?)


    Been there inside the other possibilities (in 2/3rds of the above mentioned organizations), done that... for many years.

    When I say don't trust politicians beholden to donors, it's not because I'm guessing.

    But you don't have to trust me. Just look at the last 4 presidents and compare what they said to get elected to what they did.

    This Jeffersonian Liberal just wants to save this country. Get rid of the donors and you'll have a better chance at repairing the other possibilities.


    So we agree that Citizens United (or many parts of it) is also bad?
    2400) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1726914)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... The question is why such persons are allowed to vote?


    wow...

    Ok, well, I also think there are some people out there who should not be allowed to vote.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77907&postid=1710094#1710094

    And anybody unaware of the real state of our nation should not be allowed to vote either.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1709717#1709717

    Trump's most attractive feature is that he is not beholden to any donor. There's no reason to believe he's saying one thing right now and then will do something different when he is elected. Everyone else running for president is saying one thing right now and then if elected, will do what their donors tell them to do later. If you really want to hear what they're going to do if elected, ask their donors.


    So, the only reason someone says one thing and then does another is because of donors?

    Or, is it because power corrupts?

    Or, something else?

    Or, some mixture of things?

    (How about learning the "true" true nature of the state of things, from the CIA, NSA, military etc. ... once one gets in the White House as another possibility?)
    2401) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1726883)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He made a historic deal with Iran and Cuba


    Yes he did..........and coming soon to a city near you, courtesy of Iran and Obama and the oil greedy European co-signers of the 'Agreement' and delivered by ISIS..........


    No that is coming to you via Kim in the DPRK who desperately needs cash, and ISIL has been selling lots of oil and has piles of cash. Even China has woken up to the possibility. http://news.yahoo.com/china-respond-firmly-north-korea-nuke-test-133752226.html

    Iran won't because there is far too much factional strife in the area and it would be too easy for a faction that hates their guts to get one if they put it on the open terrorist market.


    Plus ... if it were really as bad as he and so many others claim, they'd be doing a heck of a lot more than posting on message boards and making youtube videos with these "warnings". A lot more.
    2402) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1726822)
    Posted 18 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I wonder how the new president of the US will handle the situation in Europe today...


    Well, I know how I would handle it. Pull our military out, and ignore it (Europe). You are capable of handling yer own bidnizz. The occasional trade agreement between the US and Europe is about all that might be needed.


    Treat most of the rest of the world the same way too. We kinda have to interact with Canada and Mexico, since we have a common land border with them. The rest of the world? Ppppppttttttt!

    I would hope that whoever gets elected in the USA in 2016 would believe this way as well. But, almost certainly, ain't gonna happen.

    Who wants to be leader of a world power if their express aim is to stop being a world power?


    Kong 2016!
    2403) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1726634)
    Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check out the current thread entitled: Migration Period now? It's not a fantasy. It's happening right now. You can thank our current president for most of what’s happening right now across the middle east and north Africa. When Hillary gets into the white house, it’ll only get worse for Europe. Your welcome!

    Actually, that's Bush's fault, along with decades of bad American foreign policy. Obama's reaction may have not been the best, but to blame it all on him? No, thats inaccurate and unfair.

    And quite honestly, I think the Republicans would cause much more problems for Europe. They might be stupid enough to start another war and create more chaos and instability in the region. They might further provoke Russia to step up its involvement in Ukraine. Obama's reaction may have been comparatively weak, but that is mostly because we have arrived at a point where further US involvement will not help the situation, and he is at least smart enough to acknowledge that.


    Plus, why is Brutus putting it all on the US.
    Does he not believe the Middle East and North Africa bear some responsibility?

    I believe the Islamitic State IS bear all responsibility to what happen there and now.
    If there are Republicans or Democrats running the US it doesnt matter...


    But they'll argue the other side bears the complete responsibility for that group forming, as people that are "of a type that shall not be named" often do rather than putting things in perspective.
    2404) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1726587)
    Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check out the current thread entitled: Migration Period now? It's not a fantasy. It's happening right now. You can thank our current president for most of what’s happening right now across the middle east and north Africa. When Hillary gets into the white house, it’ll only get worse for Europe. Your welcome!

    Actually, that's Bush's fault, along with decades of bad American foreign policy. Obama's reaction may have not been the best, but to blame it all on him? No, thats inaccurate and unfair.

    And quite honestly, I think the Republicans would cause much more problems for Europe. They might be stupid enough to start another war and create more chaos and instability in the region. They might further provoke Russia to step up its involvement in Ukraine. Obama's reaction may have been comparatively weak, but that is mostly because we have arrived at a point where further US involvement will not help the situation, and he is at least smart enough to acknowledge that.


    Plus, why is Brutus putting it all on the US.
    Does he not believe the Middle East and North Africa bear some responsibility?
    2405) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726554)
    Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CLYDE, is a discussion of the evidence, or lack thereof, supporting the statement "there is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified", an attack?


    A secular "unused word that another often uses" attack is what it was called.

    An "unused word that another often uses" is one that dogmatically follows a belief.

    Secular = "not of religion".

    When one that believed (dogmatically or not), over the course of 14 years, begins to have doubts and then no longer believes, it can neither be that the source of the questions are secular nor that there was any "unused word that another often uses" involved.

    Even many religious people accept the scholarly work that led to the theory that 4 authors were behind the writing of The Torah/Pentateuch.
    2406) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726281)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

    Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

    Thats very true.
    The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
    Nothing more.


    plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

    what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


    He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

    You are not the arbiter of definition of words either.
    There is a difference between a debate and a discussion. (In swedish Debatt and Diskussion).
    A debate is usually two persons arguing for a position to an assembly of people.
    A discussion is an assembly of people talking of issues that sometimes gets argumentative.


    Do not fall into his trap to try to divide us.
    I did not define the word.
    I copied and pasted from a dictionary, universally recognized as including the (singular or plural) definitions.
    Because I have used the word debate, he tries to put his interpretation on it and think he understands me.

    Let us not fall into his trap.

    Let us not discuss this meta-analysis further.

    Discuss Jesus.
    2407) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726280)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

    Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

    Thats very true.
    The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
    Nothing more.


    plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

    what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


    He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

    Debate | Define Debate at Dictionary.com
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debate

    noun 1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints:


    Our discussions here ... our debates ... are not for the sole purpose of winning. They can and do in fact alter opinions. We have recently had a few state what and how. The movement in thought makes it unlikely that we are board full of ideologues.

    Dear Clyde: you came in firing with all guns, in September of 2013. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=239521&offset=4860. You aren't mirroring anything. You attacked pretty much from the start. Stop whining like Trump. Quit your own attacks. Discuss issues, not a meta-analysis of discussion/debate or whatever word you feel like using, and using to your own definition. Recognize when others are discussing issues.

    Or, enjoy things be the same as they have been for you since September of 2013.

    That's "Rich".


    Put another way:

    you either do not understand us or LIE about your observations of us.

    We do not have to tolerate this.

    We are free to ignore you.

    We are free to red-X you.

    Or, you are free to change.

    Or, you are free to show us how to change if it is really necessary.
    2408) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726275)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

    Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

    Thats very true.
    The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
    Nothing more.


    plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

    what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


    He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

    Debate | Define Debate at Dictionary.com
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debate

    noun 1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints:


    Our discussions here ... our debates ... are not for the sole purpose of winning. They can and do in fact alter opinions. We have recently had a few state what and how. The movement in thought makes it unlikely that we are board full of ideologues.

    Dear Clyde: you came in firing with all guns, in September of 2013. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=239521&offset=4860. You aren't mirroring anything. You attacked pretty much from the start. Stop whining like Trump. Quit your own attacks. Discuss issues, not a meta-analysis of discussion/debate or whatever word you feel like using, and using to your own definition. Recognize when others are discussing issues.

    Or, enjoy things be the same as they have been for you since September of 2013.

    That's "Rich".
    2409) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726271)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You continue to demonstrate your ignorance. That is not an attack. It is a fact. That you view it as an attack is sad.

    I guess I will have to help you out, "rookie investigator".


    Sarge...

    Yes.... I do understand your, and others, 'Inner Needs'

    Why you, and others need to believe in their 'Superiority' over a "rookie investigator" and other Intelligent and Highly Educated Poster's: Is difficult to understand.

    You have repeatedly stated the Political Boards are Debates. Sorry to disagree with you.

    Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

    Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

    Both sides (only a completely unintelligent idiot would believe there are only two sides) are just there to Win.

    I enjoy, and believe Intelligent Discussions are the only true way. You don't, and possibly do have the Emotional Capability to engage in Vigorous and Intelligent discussions of issues.

    Sarge...

    I believe in the Correctness of my opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    But... When attacked by those who believe in their superiority over "rookie investigator". I respond in the same manner. Just one of my many defects.

    Therefore... Since I am 'Mirroring' you, and others of your type (a very usefull technique, better suited to a group discussion):

    Your silly attacks are just showing what you are.

    BTW: Yes, I do understand you, and others of your type, is like talking to a vacuum.

    But... Keep it up. Does give me a chuckle. My bad.

    :) :) :) :) :) :)


    You used the term.
    It sure does seem to adequately describe your ability to make sense of what you read here. Thus, not an attack.

    And in the meantime, you are not discussing the issues.
    2410) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726111)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think its time some people in this thread turned the other cheek.


    OK.

    Clyde, please slap me some more with your claims that I don't discuss issues. :)

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199&postid=1725563
    2411) Message boards : Politics : Catholic criticism. (Message 1726100)
    Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm very tired right now but tomorrow I will try to craft an answer to some of your questions.

    Seaman 1sc(former admiral)Nelson


    Or, if you wish to be re-instated to your admiralship (a la Kirk), well ... .
    2412) Message boards : Politics : Catholic criticism. (Message 1726058)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The internet is full of a variety of opinions, many could be considered insulting; intentional or unintentional. I would hope that people holding views which may be considered insulting to some would still be protected free speech so long as a civil dialogue could be opened and all people are able to share their views, including those counter to the stated opinion.

    Still, I don't see the need to have so many religious threads opened which all pertain to a similar topic and could be grouped into one. I also note the OP simply starts a thread without elaborating or engaging in the discussion itself.

    Well of course, I don't wish to silence people who want to criticize the Catholic church. And there are plenty of things the Catholic church can be criticized on, for example its handling of pedophile priests, its dubious role in the Second World War, its stance on LGBTQ rights, its stance on euthanasia, etc. But I don't see any of that here, just an out of context quote from Voltaire calling the church imbeciles. Really, why not poop heads? Silly hat brigade? Blood sucking vampires? Thats about as constructive and 'critical' as calling them imbeciles and honestly also funnier.

    Honestly, 12 year olds can come up with better criticisms than this.


    In the era of Voltaire, calling them "poop heads"? Seriously? C'mon, let's not be anachronistic about this.

    The question now is, why did Seaman Nelson believe he should report this centuries olde news on Voltaire?


    Well, why would you have a problem with Voltaire (1694 - 1778) using the phrase 'poop head'?

    Others have used similar phrases.

    For instance, Martin Luther (1483 - 1546) is quite famous for his mildly off-color remarks.

    In "Two Reformers: Martin Luther and Mary Daly as Political Theologians"
    By Caryn D. Riswold on page 114 and 115, we see some examples.

    Luther quite famously referred to the Pope as an 'ass', and Dr. Johann Cochlaeus as either a 'Spoon of Snot' or as 'Dr. Snotty-nose', depending on how one translates the German word "Rotzlöffel".

    Again, per Caryn D. Riswold,
    Luther clearly felt free to be excessive, slanderous, and creative in his assessment of the pope, the Roman church, and his theological enemies.


    Why should it beyond possibility that Voltaire did similar?


    Fair enough. Nonetheless, "The question now is, why did Seaman Nelson believe he should report this centuries olde news on Voltaire?"
    As Ozz pointed out, Dave takes very little part in the threads he has started.
    Is there, perhaps, a reason the 3 threads should be merged?
    2413) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1726056)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I truly think you are not reading things in full. I respect you, so I ask that you take a deeper look at things be said before typing a reply.

    1) Gary pointed out, correctly it seems, that a dispatcher relayed incomplete to incorrect information. This should, perhaps, help you in giving the officers some benefit of the doubt.

    Even had it been a real gun, the officers should have tried more non violent methods of securing the gun before resorting to shooting, even more so because they were dealing with a child who may not fully understand whats going on or why the police are yelling at him. Police using guns should always be the ultimate last resort in a situation, not their default response.


    I think nearly all of us posting about Tamir agree with you.
    However, see yet another post here, where Es said police seem to regard blacks as older than they actually are.
    Also, the fact that I have already stated the video sure does seem to show the officer that shot him fired as he exited the police car leaves me baffled as to why you'd say something about "a child who may not fully understand ... why the police are yelling at him". It doesn't look there was even time for that to have been yelled, or if it had been, time for Tamir to comply.

    2) I have pointed out that it appears the police car entered the scene very quickly. As Gary and I have pointed out, it may have been a bit stupid to pull right up to Tamir rather than approaching a little more slowly, parking a bit further away and doing a little more observation. This should, on the other hand, reduce some of the benefit of the doubt granted.

    Well you should know that the cop who shot Tamir was fired from another police department because he was emotionally unstable and deemed wholly incompetent to safely do his job. In this case it meant that the officer was a danger to the people he was supposed to be protecting.[/quote]

    I believe at one point that I had heard that, though possibly forgot. Do you have a link I could check to refresh my memory? In any case, I think you may be making a valid point here: why would someone discharged from another department as mentally unfit for the job be hired by another police department?
    The same question goes for one of the dispatchers: she had a criminal record.

    3) Were others near Tamir at the time, so that if it had not been a toy gun, they could have been endangered? Or, was the place relatively empty except for Tamir, then Tamir and the two officers? Depending on the answer and how you view it, in light of the gestalt, whether this increases or decreases the benefit of the doubt could go either way.

    Even if there were more people around, its not an excuse to start shooting this soon. For one, if the kid is just waving his gun around, he is not an immediate danger, and second, the police aren't sharshooters, if they use their guns they are just as dangerous to their surrounding area as the person with a gun. If it was a crowded area, the fact that there were bystanders should have been an incentive to try and talk someone into surrendering, and if there weren't any bystanders there would be no immediate danger that justifies such a quick escalation to deadly force. So either way, the police was wrong.


    On what do you base that "police aren't sharp shooters"? Are you referring to police in your country, or do you have some information to share with us about the average level of fire arms training received here in the U.S. by police officers?

    Again, many of us appear to agree with several of your points: many of us think things escalated in a way they should not have. In fact, if my analysis of the video is correct, the escalation was virtually immediate.
    2414) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726042)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point?


    I would like to beg to differ on the "it is [..] obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject" part. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, and now identify as Atheist. This means I've had my opinions change at least once in my own life, and they continue to evolve as I learn more about the world around me.


    But ... but ... isn't that impossible?! Aren't 99% of us here "ideologues", unchanging and dogmatic in our following of an ideology? ;)


    Yes, and we attack anything that doesn't fit our secular, religious, belief system(s) too. /s :P


    Yeah, "asking a question" is now defined as "an attack". :)
    Gary, if Australia is North in some ideology (see "Foundation" by Asimov), then yes, the sun rises in the west.
    2415) Message boards : Politics : Catholic criticism. (Message 1726035)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The internet is full of a variety of opinions, many could be considered insulting; intentional or unintentional. I would hope that people holding views which may be considered insulting to some would still be protected free speech so long as a civil dialogue could be opened and all people are able to share their views, including those counter to the stated opinion.

    Still, I don't see the need to have so many religious threads opened which all pertain to a similar topic and could be grouped into one. I also note the OP simply starts a thread without elaborating or engaging in the discussion itself.

    Well of course, I don't wish to silence people who want to criticize the Catholic church. And there are plenty of things the Catholic church can be criticized on, for example its handling of pedophile priests, its dubious role in the Second World War, its stance on LGBTQ rights, its stance on euthanasia, etc. But I don't see any of that here, just an out of context quote from Voltaire calling the church imbeciles. Really, why not poop heads? Silly hat brigade? Blood sucking vampires? Thats about as constructive and 'critical' as calling them imbeciles and honestly also funnier.

    Honestly, 12 year olds can come up with better criticisms than this.


    In the era of Voltaire, calling them "poop heads"? Seriously? C'mon, let's not be anachronistic about this.

    The question now is, why did Seaman Nelson believe he should report this centuries olde news on Voltaire?
    2416) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1726034)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Мишель...

    Real World problem:

    When you may have less than a second to decide to use Deadly Physical Force to save the life of others and/or yourself -

    When the Information you have is either incorrect or incomplete -

    Neither you, nor any other Human will always make the correct decisions.

    What criminal level of responsibility, do you assign to this human?

    That assumes that in each of those cases you actually only have a split second to make an actual life or death decision. In the case of Tamir Rice, it wasn't a life or death situation, and because the cops shot first and then started to ask questions, they completely missed out on the fact that it wasn't a life or death decision they had to make.

    And its not like this happens once in a while, the casualty list caused by police shootings is appallingly high. The number of innocent people killed by the police is appallingly high.

    How much blame do I assign on a human for being wrong in a split second decision? That happens on a case by case basis. I can understand that if a cop encounters someone with a fake gun who uses said fake gun to rob a store or threaten someones life, then yeah I can understand the cop shoots. If its a 12 year old walking around in a park just waving a gun around and you shoot him within two seconds after arriving, then you failed to do your job as a police officer and you deserve to go to jail for killing someone. And as later investigations showed, the officer who killed Tamir Rice was fired from another police department for being to incompetent and emotionally unstable.


    Michel, not to tear down your argument ... I do believe, however, you have overlooked some other related recent posts that should inform your response.

    [Non-ideologue mode, lol!]
    1) Gary pointed out, correctly it seems, that a dispatcher relayed incomplete to incorrect information. This should, perhaps, help you in giving the officers some benefit of the doubt.
    2) I have pointed out that it appears the police car entered the scene very quickly. As Gary and I have pointed out, it may have been a bit stupid to pull right up to Tamir rather than approaching a little more slowly, parking a bit further away and doing a little more observation. This should, on the other hand, reduce some of the benefit of the doubt granted.
    3) Were others near Tamir at the time, so that if it had not been a toy gun, they could have been endangered? Or, was the place relatively empty except for Tamir, then Tamir and the two officers? Depending on the answer and how you view it, in light of the gestalt, whether this increases or decreases the benefit of the doubt could go either way.
    [/Non-ideologue mode, lol!]
    2417) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726029)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point?


    I would like to beg to differ on the "it is [..] obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject" part. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, and now identify as Atheist. This means I've had my opinions change at least once in my own life, and they continue to evolve as I learn more about the world around me.


    But ... but ... isn't that impossible?! Aren't 99% of us here "ideologues", unchanging and dogmatic in our following of an ideology? ;)
    2418) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1726026)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's a really good one.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&postid=435477

    "Sarge" wrote:
    Now that I am home, I will post one more thing. Hopefully, I can get a good night's sleep so I can work hard tomorrow and complete one big task on which I have been working.

    Consider this. Earth is not the center of the universe. It revolves around the sun. The solar system is in the armpit of the Western Spiral Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy (another Adams reference). The Milky Way Galaxy is an average one among many others.

    We are small. Insignificant. Imperfect. (No, I do not think we will not work out all the things that are mysteries to science now in a few thousand years. It is not in our capacity, I believe, now or ever. I doubt most scientists function under that assumption. The most we can hope for are theories/models that allow for increasingly better explanations/predictions.)

    If you accept evolution as a premise (and all you can do, if you aren't a scientist performing an extensive literature review on it or doing research it, is accept or not accept it), then we came from lifeforms we would consider insignificant ... dirty. ([humor on]Think "Planet of the Apes."[/humor off]) So, we too are insignificant. We should be humble.

    If you accept that a creator exists and if you accept some portion of the Genesis story ... that Adam was created from something like dirt and clay ... then we are insignificant ... dirty.

    Weird parallel, huh?
    Rather than suggest that all followers of all religions follow out of fear, why not consider the possibility that they do so out of recognition of their insignificance? If you accept that God exists, one that cares, that's pretty stunning in light of our insignificance. (Too bad some religious people do not follow the admonitions to be humble.)

    With that said, hopefully I will be asleep soon!


    Secular attack my patootie.


    Please note: I said it is really good one, not too say whether it was a particularly deep thought or not (I will leave that up to the readers). Rather, it demonstrates Clyde does not understand where the questions (as opposed to attacks) have come from.
    2419) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725984)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point?


    Clyde attacks because he thinks he knows what people's points of view are.
    He does not realize many of us have come here to here each other out, learn from each other and perhaps improve our own arguments or finally cast aside our old beliefs.
    2420) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725980)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's a really good one.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&postid=435477

    "Sarge" wrote:
    Now that I am home, I will post one more thing. Hopefully, I can get a good night's sleep so I can work hard tomorrow and complete one big task on which I have been working.

    Consider this. Earth is not the center of the universe. It revolves around the sun. The solar system is in the armpit of the Western Spiral Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy (another Adams reference). The Milky Way Galaxy is an average one among many others.

    We are small. Insignificant. Imperfect. (No, I do not think we will not work out all the things that are mysteries to science now in a few thousand years. It is not in our capacity, I believe, now or ever. I doubt most scientists function under that assumption. The most we can hope for are theories/models that allow for increasingly better explanations/predictions.)

    If you accept evolution as a premise (and all you can do, if you aren't a scientist performing an extensive literature review on it or doing research it, is accept or not accept it), then we came from lifeforms we would consider insignificant ... dirty. ([humor on]Think "Planet of the Apes."[/humor off]) So, we too are insignificant. We should be humble.

    If you accept that a creator exists and if you accept some portion of the Genesis story ... that Adam was created from something like dirt and clay ... then we are insignificant ... dirty.

    Weird parallel, huh?
    Rather than suggest that all followers of all religions follow out of fear, why not consider the possibility that they do so out of recognition of their insignificance? If you accept that God exists, one that cares, that's pretty stunning in light of our insignificance. (Too bad some religious people do not follow the admonitions to be humble.)

    With that said, hopefully I will be asleep soon!


    Secular attack my patootie.
    2421) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725975)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys/gals have no clue.

    Keep up the truly unthinking attacks against those outside of your little universe.

    Yes... There are very intelligent beliefs beyond yours.

    Your obsession with attacking and not discussing opinions different from your beliefs:

    Is sad.

    Your belief in your superiority, as different from believing one is correct: Has resulted, if your type takes power:

    In the mass murder and enslavement of Humanity.

    That is a fact.

    BTW: I have posted "Then we agree, to disagree" to Es99 and other truly Intelligent Posters.

    Agree, to disagree is beyond your understanding.

    How sad.


    You continue to demonstrate your ignorance. That is not an attack. It is a fact. That you view it as an attack is sad.

    I guess I will have to help you out, "rookie investigator".

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39810&postid=577700

    "Sarge" wrote:
    "BillHyland" wrote:
    "Sarge" wrote:

    "BillHyland" wrote:
    Actually, the problem is that most normal Muslims are not declaring against "those zealots who are terrorizing others" (I will just call them those murderers from now on), leading most of the rest of us non-Muslims to believe that thay agree with the those murderers. We feel certain that "normal Muslims" don't go out and murder women, children and men like those murderers. But when Al-Jazeera sings the praise of those murderers and shows those murderers cutting the head off someone who is helping rebuild the Iraqi infrastructure it's hard to remember who the "normal Muslims" are, because we never hear from them.



    I see and talk to Muslims on a daily basis. So I know what they're saying and what they claim to agree with. I suppose you do not meet many Muslims in your area of the country.



    What is your point and how does it relate to what I said? I also work and talk with Muslims every day. The statement is a non-sequitir.

    Let me spell out what I am saying very clearly. When those murderers are murdering in the name of Islam and Allah, we do not hear the Imams anywhere refuting their words and repudiating their acts. This leads many to the assumption that the Imams agree and support those murderers.



    The Muslims I know DO speak out against the words and actions of extremists.
    Thus, it is your conclusion that is a non-sequitUr.


    I say with a high degree of confidence that I more than other posting here now or ever have done more to get people to show respect to those posting here with religious beliefs. Not just Muslims, as this post from 2007 shows (just the one I found quickest), but all.

    If you would take the time to read others in that thread and the ones that preceded it in a series, you will learn a lot, "rookie investigator". And perhaps you will see "secular attacks", "secular ideological believers", "obsession", "your belief in your superiority" and other lines you spout for the bull crap claptrap they really are.

    You haven't read the clues that have been dropped you.

    Do you have the intellectual honesty to follow the link, read that post, others in that thread and preceding threads to back to about March 2006?

    (If I were you, asking me that question, you'd end with "I doubt you will.")

    And you still need to respond in the Racism thread.
    2422) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725972)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    That's why I asked the questions about how fast. Does he have time to ask?

    2 seconds. Thats how long it took them to shoot him.

    Wikipedia gives a short overview.


    To be fair, Gary's question was "did they have time to ask", which implies some sort of urgency or public safety concern.

    Quite. Cop responding to call of man with a gun. Cop sees gun in hand. That is what he is trained to look for. They go tunnel on it. Cop has already done the stupid and has no position to hide in. Child having no frame of reference for what a gun in his hands in front of a police officer means, moves the hand/gun combination, he may not even know there is a cop there! Cop does as trained and fires. As he does so for the first time he begins to look at the entire person and may wish he could stop the bullets in mid-flight.

    This is cop training. Shoot first ask questions later, we'll make sure the report CYA's you.

    Oh, and think of this. Instead of a gun, it is a remote detonator. Now does that make a difference?


    I see a lot of valid points being made. Including by Clyde. He will certainly be shocked at my saying this, but that, of course, is because he thinks he knows my type.

    In Gary's post here, I see "Cop has already done the stupid and has no position to hide in." From the video, that I and Ozz already mentioned, we can see Tamir was in the vicinity of a park pavilion. We can see the pavilion fairly well (nearly all of it), but not the surroundings. It seems the car raced up and shots were being fired as the officer was exiting the car

    Yes, it looks like the car was doing about 30 mph and then came to a quick stop. This seems fast for a park. Were there others in the vicinity at the time that, if Tamir had an actual gun, could have been endangered? If not, why race up virtually on top of him? They did not park someplace nearby and observe for any time.
    2423) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725856)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.


    Do you even read more than a few words of anyone else's posts anymore?

    Was the Josephus passage a forgery?

    So?

    There are many persons and events in secular history, we only have ONE or Two mentions, or only ONE interpretation.

    They are taught in our Universities (as I did) as 'A Story - Accepted'.

    Why this Secular Attack against the existence of Jesus?

    To this Atheist. Since Secular Ideological Believer's, have committed as many atrocities as Jesus/Religious Believer's:

    The Ideological believer's have no Ethical, nor Moral Foundation for their attacks.

    Because physicists created the atomic weapon, and chemists and physicists have been involved with the creation of many other types of weapon, and, over time, these weapons have killed millions, physicists and chemists have no moral nor ethical foundation for an attack on flat earthers. Likewise, due to biologists involvement with chemical weapons, I.D. should be free from attack by them.

    Right?

    Alternatively, facts are facts and woo is woo, and it doesn't matter who points out what belongs in one category or the other.


    Or, yet another alternative: there is no secular attack. You, Bobby, know very well where I stood on religious matters 9 years ago. Clyde does not and, of course, will not. He thinks he knows my type, but is consistently proven wrong by those really paying attention. :)


    I suspect the definition of secular eludes.
    2424) Message boards : Politics : Catholic criticism. (Message 1725840)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is the point of this thread anyways? To insult Catholics?


    Do you believe Catholics would find it insulting?
    2425) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725839)
    Posted 15 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, bobby.

    But for now I missed out on what you meant with I.D. here.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/602289/EXCLUSIVE-Does-mysterious-alien-corpse-found-in-Russia-prove-ETs-visit-Earth

    Came across this web-page.

    Whether you happen to be an anthropologist, or perhaps something else, are not some of these pictures supposed to be shocking, or perhaps even weird?

    Are we ever supposed to be speaking about "weird science" and by doing this being able to carry out any valuable science when it comes to such things?

    I already posted a follow-up reply to SciManStev's post regarding ancient aliens versus the subject of gods in the sky.

    For now I am not able to make any direction connection here.

    For heavens sake.
    It's shocking but not weird and definite not ET.
    Those misscarriages happens all the time.
    Go to a museum and you can see them in glassjars.


    Janne. I have yet to read a bluestar/musicplayer that does seem like a stream of consciousness post that just throws random things together. If you can see what he is getting at, please let me know. But, if you don't, I am simply saying it may not be worth trying too hard to make sense of his ramblings. (Or hers, as the case may or may not be.)


    When it comes to bluestar/musicplayer I am amazed of him in terms of rambling:) :)
    bluestar/musicplayer quote.
    Science is best carried out by means of not having any religious belief and for now scientists are unable to make a direct connection between matters relating to the subject of religion with those subjects that are supposed to be related to science.


    If musicplayer is truly a musician, this may mean the poater is more right-brained and explain part of it with the inability to communicate well with left-brained analytical thinkers here. Perhaps even more so those with more balanced hemispheres such as myself. Offline, I speak quite well to my musician friends and other musician types seem to enjoy taking a certain class from me.

    It may also explain Clyde's more, stubborn, left-brained thinking difficulty at communicating with more balanced hemisphere me. :) (He should really ask his wife about pros and cons of more balanced hemis.)
    2426) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725806)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.


    Do you even read more than a few words of anyone else's posts anymore?

    Was the Josephus passage a forgery?

    So?

    There are many persons and events in secular history, we only have ONE or Two mentions, or only ONE interpretation.

    They are taught in our Universities (as I did) as 'A Story - Accepted'.

    Why this Secular Attack against the existence of Jesus?

    To this Atheist. Since Secular Ideological Believer's, have committed as many atrocities as Jesus/Religious Believer's:

    The Ideological believer's have no Ethical, nor Moral Foundation for their attacks.


    A witness will see what he or she expects to see and a rookie investigator understands this, he says.

    You may be a great investigator, for all we know. But, as a witness, you see what you want to see. I can absolutely tell now you've done little to no looking at our posts of more than whenever you first arrived. (2 years or so, now.)

    I don't care if you have people PMing you about how they think I'm stupid. You make yourself look more and more foolish with your invalid assumptions about us and your evidence only being misunderstood recent posts.

    Really ...
    really ...
    foolish.

    Your deflection will. Not 'work'.
    2427) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725805)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh my...


    Ditto.
    2428) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725804)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, bobby.

    But for now I missed out on what you meant with I.D. here.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/602289/EXCLUSIVE-Does-mysterious-alien-corpse-found-in-Russia-prove-ETs-visit-Earth

    Came across this web-page.

    Whether you happen to be an anthropologist, or perhaps something else, are not some of these pictures supposed to be shocking, or perhaps even weird?

    Are we ever supposed to be speaking about "weird science" and by doing this being able to carry out any valuable science when it comes to such things?

    I already posted a follow-up reply to SciManStev's post regarding ancient aliens versus the subject of gods in the sky.

    For now I am not able to make any direction connection here.

    For heavens sake.
    It's shocking but not weird and definite not ET.
    Those misscarriages happens all the time.
    Go to a museum and you can see them in glassjars.


    Janne. I have yet to read a bluestar/musicplayer that does seem like a stream of consciousness post that just throws random things together. If you can see what he is getting at, please let me know. But, if you don't, I am simply saying it may not be worth trying too hard to make sense of his ramblings. (Or hers, as the case may or may not be.)
    2429) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725782)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    12 year old shot by police


    If he's going to go waving a gun around in public, what else was likely to happen?

    From the original call to the police: "There's a guy in there with a pistol, you know, it's probably fake, but he's like pointing it at everybody,"

    Unfortunately the dispatcher relayed it as "it's probably real" and that is the person who should be put on trial.

    Question, in a park after dark how long does it take to determine if a figure standing there is a young adult or a violent criminal? Oh are those mutually exclusive? Is that more of less time than it takes that figure to aim and fire a real gun at you?


    The video doesn't seem to show it being dark. Wasn't it occurring around noon?


    That's correct - it happened around noon local time.


    Ozz: good to know my memory is serving me correctly.
    Gary: since I'm about to go teach another class, have a link regarding the mis-relaying of "it's probably fake" vs. "it's probably real"?


    I did find http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_dispatcher_who_handl_1.html.

    Constance Hollinger took the initial 9-1-1 call from a man outside the Cudell Recreation Center who said that someone was pointing a gun that was "probably fake" at people.

    The details of what Hollinger relayed to Mandl are not clear. At no point were the officers told that the gun was "probably fake" or that Tamir was a boy and not an adult.
    2430) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725781)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    12 year old shot by police


    If he's going to go waving a gun around in public, what else was likely to happen?

    From the original call to the police: "There's a guy in there with a pistol, you know, it's probably fake, but he's like pointing it at everybody,"

    Unfortunately the dispatcher relayed it as "it's probably real" and that is the person who should be put on trial.

    Question, in a park after dark how long does it take to determine if a figure standing there is a young adult or a violent criminal? Oh are those mutually exclusive? Is that more of less time than it takes that figure to aim and fire a real gun at you?


    The video doesn't seem to show it being dark. Wasn't it occurring around noon?


    That's correct - it happened around noon local time.


    Ozz: good to know my memory is serving me correctly.
    Gary: since I'm about to go teach another class, have a link regarding the misrelaying of "it's probably fake" vs. "it's probably real"?
    2431) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725773)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...



    ...

    The irony of this is that is it pretty much what happens.

    Ask any young gang member why they joined a gang and a lot of them will tell you "protection".

    Who else do you go to for protection when the police are dangerous to you and won't help you?

    So I saw that poster and thought it was incredibly ignorant and rather sad.

    I grew-up on the 'Mean Streets' of New York. I was not a 'Saint'.

    Gangs today, as then: Need protection from other Gangs. Not Police.

    Rather sad, the inability to understand facts and 'Inner City' needs.


    DEFLECTION!
    Answer the points I raised!!!
    Immediately!!!
    (The same demand you made of me. Don't try to. Deny it. Won't work.)
    2432) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725771)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    12 year old shot by police


    If he's going to go waving a gun around in public, what else was likely to happen?

    From the original call to the police: "There's a guy in there with a pistol, you know, it's probably fake, but he's like pointing it at everybody,"

    Unfortunately the dispatcher relayed it as "it's probably real" and that is the person who should be put on trial.

    Question, in a park after dark how long does it take to determine if a figure standing there is a young adult or a violent criminal? Oh are those mutually exclusive? Is that more of less time than it takes that figure to aim and fire a real gun at you?


    The video doesn't seem to show it being dark. Wasn't it occurring around noon?
    2433) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725768)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.


    Do you even read more than a few words of anyone else's posts anymore?

    Was the Josephus passage a forgery?

    So?

    There are many persons and events in secular history, we only have ONE or Two mentions, or only ONE interpretation.

    They are taught in our Universities (as I did) as 'A Story - Accepted'.

    Why this Secular Attack against the existence of Jesus?

    To this Atheist. Since Secular Ideological Believer's, have committed as many atrocities as Jesus/Religious Believer's:

    The Ideological believer's have no Ethical, nor Moral Foundation for their attacks.

    Because physicists created the atomic weapon, and chemists and physicists have been involved with the creation of many other types of weapon, and, over time, these weapons have killed millions, physicists and chemists have no moral nor ethical foundation for an attack on flat earthers. Likewise, due to biologists involvement with chemical weapons, I.D. should be free from attack by them.

    Right?

    Alternatively, facts are facts and woo is woo, and it doesn't matter who points out what belongs in one category or the other.


    Or, yet another alternative: there is no secular attack. You, Bobby, know very well where I stood on religious matters 9 years ago. Clyde does not and, of course, will not. He thinks he knows my type, but is consistently proven wrong by those really paying attention. :)
    2434) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725591)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People have Given Their Life for One or Many, Tens of Thousands of Years before 'Jesus'.


    Ur woddafook kestion? Sum gud stuph rite there.
    Butt y u askin dis? Haz da inflooenz of ID pazt on? U gots da Brutus postin 2 ya gin, so y u got to go and kestion wot he be belieberin?
    2435) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725570)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am going to add something to follow on my previous post. Several posts here have concentrated on police and ethnicity, rather than solely on what was raised in Gary's original post. At risk of going slightly off topic.

    1) I went on a dinner date with a police officer in fall of 2013. No, I won't post a picture of her. :P
    2) I found a wallet on a sidewalk yesterday. I called the Sheriff's Office soon after and two deputies showed up to get info and take it. I was told more than once "You're a good man" and received more than one handshake.
    3) I stated elsewhere (not on s@H fora) "Hating cops is not the same as being suspicious that some will overstep their bounds." That was in response to seeing the following posted by a local friend.



    Nonetheless, in the past 8 years, I have had some negative experiences with police officers in the past 8 years despite having done nothing wrong.

    1) Around May 2007, while on a long trip involving two job interviews in that one trip, I was tired enough to have my situational awareness escape me. I saw a guy that had a bunch of people rounded up at the side of a city street, just off the sidewalk. Turns out it was an non-uniformed officer, but that was hardly clear at the time and I was exhausted anyway. I had wandered about a mile from the ritzy hotel to a fast food restaurant and then was trying to find a nearby convenience store when I saw this. Seeing that situation, I sped up my walking. For all I knew, it was two rival gangs and one had the better of the other at the moment. I was told twice to stop. At that point, I figured, if the main guy was trouble, I was screwed either way. Stop, screwed. Keep going, get chased down or worse = screwed. So, I stopped and the guy proceeded to give me a rough time for a few minutes. He could have simply asked for ID right away, asked why I was around (some hundred of miles away from where my license and university ID indicated I would usually be) and then stated, "Look, you're in a rough area. Get back to your hotel ASAP and don't wander to this side of town again."

    2) Christmas-time 2010 or 2011. Armed robbery at a Target retail store occurred while I was at the mall across the street. I saw 3 officers running out to the parking lot before I turned the corner to the exit from the mall, at least 200 feet from at the time I saw them. I saw police cars speeding out of the parking lot as I went through the doors. I walk at a decent clip. 5-10 minutes later, walking along the walking/biking path to cover part of the 1.5 mile walk home, I saw some of those cars were pulled over along the highway. The path cuts under a bridge to the other side of the highway where there is a sidewalk. One of the officers was walking quickly from his car to under the bridge. I slowed. I asked him if it was safe to continue walking along the path. He asked me to stop and asked if I was aware of what had just happened. I had slowed even more and was coming to a stop, when another officer screamed "Stop" twice as she ran down the hill. She began pawing at my light coat and hooded sweatshirt (that's why we non-younguns call hoodies and, no, the hood was not up, so it was acting more as a sweater). She asked me what sports team was advertised on my sweatshirt. (How they even saw a hooded sweatshirt after dark until standing right next to me is a wonder.) I told her "I own no sports-related paraphenalia." I hope that sent her for a loop. Then my wallet was groped out of my back pocket and they apparently saw the ID card of the university I teach at. They left within a few seconds.

    The male officer was acting reasonably. Things were under control. She wrested control from him and escalated the situation.

    And she was one of the 3 officers I saw bolt out of the mall. Despite my walking at a decent clip, they should've been way ahead of me and the likelihood of me being the perp extremely low.

    I thought she looked cute as she ran out.

    No, she ain't the one I had the date with. :P (Or, for you grammar freak, "No, she isn't the one with which I had a date. :P"
    2436) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1725563)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, Clyde asked:

    Of course. Two thoughts.

    #1 - Investigation 101: People recall, what they expected to see. Any rookie Police Investigator understands that.

    #2 - We may (are?) dealing with a role reversal of 'Old South Justice' and testimony.

    Edit: Which does one tend to believe. Human 'Eye witnesses'. with all their prejudices (white and Black). Or the Forensics and Science.

    Again: Why would the Obama Justice Department and Holder, not press criminal charges, with all these witnesses?

    Sarge...

    What is your belief regarding this?


    Gary, I have now provided Clyde a very direct answer, straight from the source.
    That 18 U.S.C.§ 242 was not violated beyond a reasonable doubt. (Of course, it raises the question what is 18 U.S.C.§ 242?)

    What was your point? That government search engines aren't very good?


    That may also be true.

    Sarge...

    I do understand my simple question was very uncomfortable for you,

    BTW: Your simplistic attempt at deflecting the discussion, and not answering a question. Is very typical of your 'type'.

    Not going to work.

    Again: What is your answer?


    Dream on.


    There are two things you say/do that make me uncomfortable, Clyde, and you have already been told what they are. One is simply how you type out your posts. Can you remember the other? If so, do you understand it?

    Your question was not uncomfortable for me. What a joke.
    'Type' or type? (You do realize you can use bbcode to underline, bold or italicize things?)
    Please, tell me my type. :)
    Deflection? I finished some other things then I took the time to look up the fact straight from the source. It has nothing to do with my belief.
    If you think you know my type, why do you even bother to ask my belief? You already think you know. You do not need one more shred of evidence to (wrongly) convince you.

    Gary, why did I look up Tamir Rice at the DoJ website after? Simple. I wanted to see if at least one of the other recently discussed cases, from the past 1.5 years, has led to the DoJ stating 18 U.S.C.§ 242 or anything else like that had been violated. So far, I only looked this up at that site for Rice and Eric Garner. (It was a few days ago, but I seem to recall the same problem with the Garner hits produced as with Rice.)

    dg###### seems to believe that, in stating BLM "is based on a lie" that this all revolves around Michael Brown. Clyde may also believe the same thing.

    But I, and perhaps many, are giving BLM the benefit of the doubt for a reason I have already stated.

    Clyde has repeatedly stated power corrupts.
    Police officers are given some measure of power. Thus, they can become corrupt. At the least, they are fallible, like any other human being. (dg###### provided some interesting info a few months ago, about the police officer involved in the pool party incident ... regarding the particularly stressful day he had already endured.)
    I have seen many reports (written and video) on the militarization of police forces around the country. Reports from many types on the spectrum (matrix).
    So, I have to wonder, given that power can corrupt, police officers have some power, etc. ..., why do some have so much difficulty allowing the possibility that we have a number of examples where police officers have overstepped their bounds? The focus may be on ethnicity at the moment, but if we don't address this now, when? Is it happening or not? Is it happening to blacks? If it is, will it spread and not just to blacks but all of us?
    2437) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1725562)
    Posted 14 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The ever lasting controversy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

    Both ... either.


    SNip!

    (Did you forget which account to post from in this particular discussion topic?_
    2438) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1724830)
    Posted 11 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Other commonly used terms are ghetto blaster, jambox, boomblaster, Brixton briefcase, and radio-cassette. A boombox is a device typically capable of receiving radio stations and playing recorded music (usually cassettes or CDs, usually at a high volume).

    They probably still do there.


    We're gonna
    rock down to
    Electric Avenue.

    One more who remember the Brixton riots in 1981.

    Oi! Oi! No popcorn Chris:)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0


    It was a hit song here, but I did not know the connection to Brixton Riots until a year ago. Strangely, the connection was made for me by a show on BBC America.
    2439) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1724788)
    Posted 11 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

    Because Wilson did not act with the requisite criminal intent, it cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt to a jury that he violated 18 U.S.C.§ 242 when he fired his weapon at Brown.

    VI.
    Conclusion
    For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.


    Yet, http://search.justice.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=justice&query=doj+report+on+shooting+of+tamir+rice, while it produces 3 hits, these hits are to blogs within DOJ and not reports with final conclusions.
    2440) Message boards : Politics : Jesus (Message 1724779)
    Posted 11 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.


    Do you even read more than a few words of anyone else's posts anymore?

    Was the Josephus passage a forgery?
    2441) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1724777)
    Posted 11 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Other commonly used terms are ghetto blaster, jambox, boomblaster, Brixton briefcase, and radio-cassette. A boombox is a device typically capable of receiving radio stations and playing recorded music (usually cassettes or CDs, usually at a high volume).

    They probably still do there.


    We're gonna
    rock down to
    Electric Avenue.
    2442) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1723952)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked for names so I can do the research and answer.
    Besides Brown, Garner and Rice, the one in Baltimore was Fredie Gray, correct?

    If you want names might include Eula Love and I'm sure you remember Rodney King, although he didn't die.

    http://gawker.com/unarmed-people-of-color-killed-by-police-1999-2014-1666672349


    Thanks Gary.
    I certainly do remember Rodney King.
    I was thinking more than past 1-1.5 years.
    I won't be including Trayvon Martin as George Zimmerman was Neighborhood Watch.

    Then perhaps this site: http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2014.html


    Domo arigato.
    2443) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1723950)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...

    I do understand my simple question was very uncomfortable for you,

    BTW: Your simplistic attempt at deflecting the discussion, and not answering a question. Is very typical of your 'type'.

    Not going to work.

    Again: What is your answer?


    Dream on.
    2444) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1723948)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, you're a hiker too? I might have to remove you from my ignore list then.

    My wife and I did this one a couple weeks ago with full packs.

    http://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/clouds-rest/clouds-rest.htm

    Spent the night on it to watch the peak of the perseid meteor shower on the evening of 13 Aug.

    I didn't bring my cell phone.

    There are a couple of great apps for smart phones that tell you when the showers are at their peak and also a map of the night sky that shows the constellations when you point the phone at it.


    And the fitbit app is great for telling you approximately how many miles (steps) you've walked and/or how many calories you've burned doing so.

    Yes, I hear those are good. Also the GPS is useful, there is also a compass app to help you not get lost, along with of course the maps, plus weather apps to make sure you don't get caught in a storm.

    My phone camera is actually better than my old camera so its always good to have on nature hikes to take pictures of wildlife.

    There are also altimeter apps to see how high you have climbed. Pretty cool.


    Dang! 40 somethings have been assimilated, too! (Yes, these cameras are better than the clunk ones we carried in the 70s and 80s.)

    2445) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1723938)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, you're a hiker too? I might have to remove you from my ignore list then.

    My wife and I did this one a couple weeks ago with full packs.

    http://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/clouds-rest/clouds-rest.htm

    Spent the night on it to watch the peak of the perseid meteor shower on the evening of 13 Aug.

    I didn't bring my cell phone.


    I have always (or at least since my late teens) done a lot of walking.
    Most places I've lived have had plenty of wooded areas nearby, so, besides walking to and from work, I've often had the opportunity to walk for the sake of walking and clearing my head or contemplation. I'd call these hikes. They could go from 4 to 16 miles.
    Where I live now, not much in the immediate area for woods. But, within 30-60 miles, opportunities for climbing. That report, which helped me keep track of my performance so I could report it as part of a health challenge here at work, was from my first climb. (Then again, I have a bit of a climb every work day for about 0.2 miles. But now, I'm doing that on my bike.)
    2446) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1723917)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know, right? Spot on, Chris! WHy do them younguns spend so much time on their phones?!?

    Partly because they can. With those things they have a computer, the internet, a filofax, and phone all in one device., The world is literally in their pocket, or in their case in their hands. It is partly showing off, look at me, I have the last i6 or whatever, and partly to answer it in seconds if anyone calls. Of course the content of conversations is mind-zapping.

    So I went
    so he goes
    and I was like
    So he went
    And I goes

    etc etc. You will be assimilated, resistance if futile!


    I guess you didn't look at the picture. I suppose you think my health is unimportant?
    2447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing Persons Bureau (a.k.a. The Mother Hens Thread) (Message 1723679)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Officers Mess
    47A Silk Road
    Khyber Pass
    UR1 IR2

    My esteemed colleagues,

    Re your posts of the 11th inst, I have been given to understand that general enquiries have been made appertaining to my whereabouts and general disposition. I am pleased therefore to take this opportunity to respond to your kind concerns.

    I have been for some time now in foreign climes to recover from an iniquitous altercation in the local Emporium run by no other than the aforementioned Mrs. Miggins, when I had popped in for some warm bloomers. In previous communications from her I had believed that she was chaste, and I was a welcome suitor, but I discovered to my dismay that this was not indeed the case. It appeared that her spelling was somewhat bereft of accuracy and that in fact she was chased (by many others), and that my attentions did not suit her.

    To recover from such a cruel blow, I therefore purchased a Postal & Orient steamer ticket, packed my portmanteau, and embarked on a journey culminating at my present location. I find the climate equitable, although the local cuisine is shall we say somewhat different from the New Delhi in Gasworks Lane.

    I would venture to suggest that I still have high hopes regarding Mrs Miggins and would be pleased to receive any news of the said personage. In the meantime I send you all my warmest felicitations and good wishes for your future prosperity.

    I beg to remain you most humble friend,

    Sidney J. Snodgrass (Retd)
    Late of her Majesties 3rd Foot & Mouth


    Hello ... Chris.
    2448) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1723608)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yOK, and explain this. Why do all girls in their late teens or early 20's walk about all day with a smart phone clamped in their hand. You see it in every town and city all over the country. I bet they don't even put it down to have a pee! They are like a bunch of assimilated Borg zombies.


    I know, right? Spot on, Chris! WHy do them younguns spend so much time on their phones?!?

    2449) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1723606)
    Posted 9 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I asked for names so I can do the research and answer.
    Besides Brown, Garner and Rice, the one in Baltimore was Fredie Gray, correct?

    If you want names might include Eula Love and I'm sure you remember Rodney King, although he didn't die.

    http://gawker.com/unarmed-people-of-color-killed-by-police-1999-2014-1666672349


    Thanks Gary.
    I certainly do remember Rodney King.
    I was thinking more than past 1-1.5 years.
    I won't be including Trayvon Martin as George Zimmerman was Neighborhood Watch.
    2450) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1723567)
    Posted 8 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, the witnesses found not credible were left out?
    Or, the table maker selected his or her own way to skew the point made?

    Is PBS Newshour known for its political bias? And do you think that in a case this controversial, they would get away with showing a deliberately skewed table? Besides, if you wanted to skew a table, wouldn't you include more witnesses that support one side of the story?Aka, less witnesses that contradict what other witnesses said?


    PBS stands for Public Broadcasting Service. It gets money to run from the government and from people donating directly to them. It is often accused of a left-wing bias.

    And, didn't we all agree that, according to the table, the majority said MB had his hands up?

    Of course. Two thoughts.

    #1 - Investigation 101: People recall, what they expected to see. Any rookie Police Investigator understands that.

    #2 - We may (are?) dealing with a role reversal of 'Old South Justice' and testimony.

    Edit: Which does one tend to believe. Human 'Eye witnesses'. with all their prejudices (white and Black). Or the Forensics and Science.

    Again: Why would the Obama Justice Department and Holder, not press criminal charges, with all these witnesses?

    Sarge...

    What is your belief regarding this?


    I am still looking for time, between work, entertainment and posting responses in other popular threads, to look up some facts on this issue.

    I do think Michel pinned correctly one of the things you're trying to say. I was going to post it, but wanted more to add, and he beat me to it.
    You're saying the fear of many blacks is not of whites but of the thugs of their own community.
    (As stated earlier today, in another thread, recognition of your point is not a comment on whether it is correct or not.)


    I am going to ask a favor. If you wish to assume me as lazy for not doing this myself, fine, belive what you like.

    The names, besides Michael Brown, that immediately come to mind are Eric Garner and Tamir RIce. Others, I can just think of a general area of the US and a few other areas.

    To answer Clyde on why I think Obama, Holder and the Department of Justice have not done certain things, I need help remebering some other names.

    Please provide me a list of 2 to 7 more names held up by BLM, so I can do some web searching.

    Thank you.


    Clyde simply restated the question.
    I asked for names so I can do the research and answer.
    Besides Brown, Garner and Rice, the one in Baltimore was Fredie Gray, correct?
    2451) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1723377)
    Posted 8 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, the witnesses found not credible were left out?
    Or, the table maker selected his or her own way to skew the point made?

    Is PBS Newshour known for its political bias? And do you think that in a case this controversial, they would get away with showing a deliberately skewed table? Besides, if you wanted to skew a table, wouldn't you include more witnesses that support one side of the story?Aka, less witnesses that contradict what other witnesses said?


    PBS stands for Public Broadcasting Service. It gets money to run from the government and from people donating directly to them. It is often accused of a left-wing bias.

    And, didn't we all agree that, according to the table, the majority said MB had his hands up?

    Of course. Two thoughts.

    #1 - Investigation 101: People recall, what they expected to see. Any rookie Police Investigator understands that.

    #2 - We may (are?) dealing with a role reversal of 'Old South Justice' and testimony.

    Edit: Which does one tend to believe. Human 'Eye witnesses'. with all their prejudices (white and Black). Or the Forensics and Science.

    Again: Why would the Obama Justice Department and Holder, not press criminal charges, with all these witnesses?

    Sarge...

    What is your belief regarding this?


    I am still looking for time, between work, entertainment and posting responses in other popular threads, to look up some facts on this issue.

    I do think Michel pinned correctly one of the things you're trying to say. I was going to post it, but wanted more to add, and he beat me to it.
    You're saying the fear of many blacks is not of whites but of the thugs of their own community.
    (As stated earlier today, in another thread, recognition of your point is not a comment on whether it is correct or not.)


    I am going to ask a favor. If you wish to assume me as lazy for not doing this myself, fine, belive what you like.

    The names, besides Michael Brown, that immediately come to mind are Eric Garner and Tamir RIce. Others, I can just think of a general area of the US and a few other areas.

    To answer Clyde on why I think Obama, Holder and the Department of Justice have not done certain things, I need help remebering some other names.

    Please provide me a list of 2 to 7 more names held up by BLM, so I can do some web searching.

    Thank you.
    2452) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1723282)
    Posted 7 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this zany debate could go on forever.

    As has [the] God.......


    ... that never was.


    "Follow the God that failed"?
    2453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : First Dane in space (Message 1722240)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wasn't there a Dane that used to post?
    2454) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1722239)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now look here folks this has to stop, and right now!! Not only am I agreeing with Es99, now I find myself agreeing with Sirius. This is most disturbing to my cosy equilibrium.

    Equilibrium exists to be upset. Get used to agreeing with both Sirius and Es99 and even at the same time. Brain cells need their exercise from time to time.

    I try to base whether I agree with someone on what they've said rather than who they are. I may have even agreed with you, Gary, once or twice.

    I didn't notice the earth stop rotating.


    But it does explain the frigid temperatures last winter. :P


    Meantime, OzzFan and I are secretly agreeing on many things lately and nobody's talking about it!? Maybe because our past arguments were behind the scenes?
    2455) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1722185)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, the witnesses found not credible were left out?
    Or, the table maker selected his or her own way to skew the point made?

    Is PBS Newshour known for its political bias? And do you think that in a case this controversial, they would get away with showing a deliberately skewed table? Besides, if you wanted to skew a table, wouldn't you include more witnesses that support one side of the story?Aka, less witnesses that contradict what other witnesses said?


    PBS stands for Public Broadcasting Service. It gets money to run from the government and from people donating directly to them. It is often accused of a left-wing bias.

    And, didn't we all agree that, according to the table, the majority said MB had his hands up?

    Of course. Two thoughts.

    #1 - Investigation 101: People recall, what they expected to see. Any rookie Police Investigator understands that.

    #2 - We may (are?) dealing with a role reversal of 'Old South Justice' and testimony.

    Edit: Which does one tend to believe. Human 'Eye witnesses'. with all their prejudices (white and Black). Or the Forensics and Science.

    Again: Why would the Obama Justice Department and Holder, not press criminal charges, with all these witnesses?

    Sarge...

    What is your belief regarding this?


    I am still looking for time, between work, entertainment and posting responses in other popular threads, to look up some facts on this issue.

    I do think Michel pinned correctly one of the things you're trying to say. I was going to post it, but wanted more to add, and he beat me to it.
    You're saying the fear of many blacks is not of whites but of the thugs of their own community.
    (As stated earlier today, in another thread, recognition of your point is not a comment on whether it is correct or not.)
    2456) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1722181)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Es and Gary, it was your two responses that surprised me and if you do not follow/watch the video at the link then you miss the point I am trying to make. (Which is surely not the same as his.) My point is also to get Es to either expand on her earlier comments on finding solace or perhaps reverse her views.
    2457) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1722125)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lots of newbies around in 2015 Sarge, most still learning the ropes. Be kind, giggle up your sleeve.


    Not talking about the newbies. Really, the words/thoughts put on me make no sense given what the respondents know of me. That they missed a suggested link is also odd.

    Sometimes your posting style is very opaque.


    There are times for it and reasons for the times.
    It should not be difficult to understand what I was getting at in that particular post.
    Did you follow the link?
    2458) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1722122)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lots of newbies around in 2015 Sarge, most still learning the ropes. Be kind, giggle up your sleeve.


    Not talking about the newbies. Really, the words/thoughts put on me make no sense given what the respondents know of me. That they missed a suggested link is also odd.
    2459) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1722121)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...
    3. gay sex is all about dominance & submission - analog 2 animal kind...even in old Greek a small boy would give himself 2 older man, but when he grows up he would dominate other boys...so nothing has changed!
    also, all faiths says we r all equal...
    ;)

    Well this is bizarre..I have never heard this claim before...i take it you don't know many gay people and you are also ignorant of how heterosexual intercourse has been used to dominate people?

    This is probably one of the strangest claims I have seen written on this forum and that is saying something.


    I have heard this claim. Probably more than once. Having heard it is not a comment about whether fact or not.
    2460) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1722034)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow.
    Some epic misreads
    and nussubf the
    Overall 'Point'.

    Please ... try again.
    2461) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721875)
    Posted 4 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, if you want to account for all the bad things religion supposedly causes, you also need to account all the good things religion also causes. And in general, the overwhelming majority of religious people are good people who in their way try to do good. And often, their way of doing good doesn't even differ from the way atheists try to do good.

    I agree that some people need religion to be good people, that's fine, atheists can also do good things and be good people. However, what you do see is religious people using their religion to justify bad things.


    Meant in all seriousness ... .
    Discuss the following:

    1) Why have, and continue to be, murder and rape been "bad ideas" (to put it mildly).

    2) Why was eating pork a bad idea? Why do Jews and Muslims still have a rule about it? Why do Christians not, when Jesus never said part of the New Covenant was the removal of the rule against eating pork? Is there a reason eating pork is no longer a bad idea?

    3) Why was sex between two men a bad idea in the past? What was different then that may not have continued in to the present?

    EDIT: Sure, if you need to believe to be good, that's fine. Right.
    2462) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721360)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where does it appear in the wave equation?

    Well oh wise one, you tell us, but have a word with your new best friend first.


    Me? :)
    2463) Message boards : Politics : Africa (Message 1721355)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Chikungunya virus is passed to humans by two species of mosquito of the genus Aedes: A. albopictus and A. aegypti. Animal reservoirs of the virus include monkeys, birds, cattle, and rodents. This is in contrast to dengue, for which primates are the only hosts. Since 2004, the disease has occurred in outbreaks in Asia, Europe and the Americas.


    If I had not seen it in this thread, with a name such as "Chikungunya", I would think Asian or African, possibly Native American. Further seeing A. aegypti would further ... ?
    2464) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721109)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does his power include the ability to revoke his power such that he can't get it back?

    Paradoxes such as those do not apply to God. The concept of God is beyond human comprehension.


    How convenient.
    2465) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721107)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I never heard or read a scientist disregarding anything.

    Science disregards anything that is considered metaphysical. That is understandable because things that are metaphysical are impossible to detect using your senses, and therefor can never be 'proven' to exist. It is important to note here though that it is science itself that has defined how and when something is proven, and that through its own definition it has shut out the metaphysical.


    I will assume it is simply lack of knowledge that made you say something false, rather than intentional distortion or flat out lying.

    Research on prayer.

    Research on near death experiences.

    Weight of the soul?.

    All three of these come too close to your metaphysical, which you claim scientists would run screaming from and continue to run for miles. I have provided evidence to the contrary.
    2466) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721104)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Faith is arrogant. It places humanity at the center of the universe and each believer as the apple of the creator’s eye.

    Yes, faith is arrogant, but science isn't? Science basically says that it will discover everything there is to know about the universe, and everything it can't know it simply disregards as non existent. Also, if we were to drop the arrogance we get from having faith, what would we get?Rational nihilism and fatalism. Is that better? Personally I feel more comfortable thinking I'm the center of the universe and master of my own actions, rather than an insignificant, meaningless speck of dust which moves around on cosmic winds.


    As a non-entity, science cannot be arrogant.
    At best, we can have arrogant scientists.
    Those that are perhaps do not fully understand something underpinning science.
    Math has been called both the Handmaiden of the Sciences and the Queen of the Sciences. Either way, their work and assertions, based on evidence, depend on the (small set of axiomatic) assumptions made in mathematics. For example, using statistics to test hypotheses, and then to speak of the degree of certainty with which we can reject a null hypothesis depends on the axioms of calculus and probability.

    As I stated years ago, no, not all things can be known. Not in mathematics and therefore, not in science either. There will always be something to discover.

    Your suggestion of what happens when faith is removed is false. I've heard statements from a number of atheists that they believe, since they have no evidence of an afterlife, that they must make this life on Earth the best they possibly can (often by helping others).
    2467) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1721095)
    Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are enough contemporary accounts from the time just 2000 years ago to confirm that a man known as Jesus did proclaim his ministries in the area of the Eastern Mediterranean we call the Holy Land.


    There are? Care to provide some sources? To my knowledge there are no sources prior to Paul's letters some 20 years after the crucifixion. For non-Christian sources there's Josephus in the 90s and Tacitus 20 or so years later (or about 80 years after the crucifixion). If a book were to be written today on the oil crises of the 1970s, would you say that was also a contemporary account?


    And it has been asserted that the Josephus account (which what I've heard is very brief) was later inserted into his writings by a Christian. If so, then not even Josephus serves as a slightly later than contemperaneous Jesus accountant.
    2468) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1720657)
    Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Devil's Purpose. Part of an interesting youtube series in progress.
    2469) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1720417)
    Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I patiently await your response to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77510&postid=1718669.
    2470) Message boards : Politics : Big Pharmaceutical companies price gouging (Message 1719871)
    Posted 29 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep. You hit the nail on the head. The Patent system in the USA (as well as a number of other nations in the world) is horribly, horribly broken.

    Major I did not "hit the nail on the head", I hit a nail on the head.
    A subject that has not been discussed is DR.s and other healthcare providers gaming the system.


    Kickbacks for prescribing s particular frug?
    2471) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1719755)
    Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or, the witnesses found not credible were left out?
    Or, the table maker selected his or her own way to skew the point made?

    Is PBS Newshour known for its political bias? And do you think that in a case this controversial, they would get away with showing a deliberately skewed table? Besides, if you wanted to skew a table, wouldn't you include more witnesses that support one side of the story?Aka, less witnesses that contradict what other witnesses said?


    PBS stands for Public Broadcasting Service. It gets money to run from the government and from people donating directly to them. It is often accused of a left-wing bias.

    And, didn't we all agree that, according to the table, the majority said MB had his hands up?
    2472) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1719563)
    Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michel, why are some witnesses left out or, if not left out, not numbered sequentially?

    Sorry, I don't know, I didn't make that table ;)

    Perhaps its what Gary said, the others are people who were asked but didn't turn out to be witnesses? Or perhaps they were witnesses of some other aspect of the investigation and not the shooting itself?


    Or, the witnesses found not credible were left out?
    Or, the table maker selected his or her own way to skew the point made?
    2473) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1719359)
    Posted 28 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He wasn't shot in the back. As many initial and untruthful, perjuring themselves under oath in the Grand Jury, stated.

    Actually according to the chart almost everyone said that Michael Brown was facing Darren Wilson when he got shot. So again, what lying witnesses?

    Why were those, basically backing up the Officer's account (according to The Facts and Forensic Evidence) afraid to publicly speak the truth?

    Clearly they weren't given that they all said that MB was facing DW. Its in the chart. Have you actually looked at the chart?





    Michel, why are some witnesses left out or, if not left out, not numbered sequentially?
    2474) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718854)
    Posted 27 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?

    Yes please.


    First, remember that before 2008, the posting community here was more diverse and vibrant. It has never fully bounced back.

    Second, I have been trying to see both sides since at least age 23, so there's little to no transitioning occurring. Bobby says essentially the same for himself. I doubt Es is transitioning much. 272902 says he sees little transitioning in himself or others.

    The old maxims may no longer be holding. The reasons given by Michel and others may also explain why some 40somethings think as they do and are not transitioning to become more conservative as they age.

    What exactly is meant by transitioning? I have definitely become more left wing as I have grown older and wiser. I think Tami makes some very valid points in that the reason someone doesn't like young people gathering is most likely because of fear.


    In the context of this discussion, I think Chris first brought up the term and I think it is pretty clear he means moving from one side of the political spectrum to the other side, by whatever degree. Becoming more left wing, then, would not fit in this theory of transitions Chris has but rather seems to be one example in favor of my point. I think Bobby's making the same point.

    Chris, can we then take Es as counterpoint to your female relative? We're back to 0 to 0, then; i.e., single examples do not provide proof.

    Anecdotal evidence is never going to be proof (in the sense of mathematical proof, however large samples of anecdotal evidence can be sufficient when dealing with non-mathematical areas such as human interaction). Its not even possible to assume that because you are surrounded by people who think like you that you represent a majority or a 'norm' because we tend to surround ourselves with people who think like us.

    That is often the reason people get so upset when posting on seti and coming across points of view totally oppostie to theirs that they would never normally come across. Some peole can find it quite distressing when they realise they are not the sole keeper of the 'correct' world view.


    1 example versus 1 counterexample can be thought to balance to 0 versus 0; i.e., nothing gained in forwarding either of the claims.
    2475) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Universal time? (Message 1718851)
    Posted 27 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When did you get to decide the rest of us do not sign petitions in an s@h science thread?

    Well start one then!



    https://www.change.org/p/government-stop-daylight-saving-time?recruiter=298694645&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

    https://cdn.urbantimes.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/baa0c621409a710233685deecc6e66bb-how-queen-elizabeth-ii-felt.jpg

    Janne, he is simply avoiding the question.
    KLIK already provided the two above.
    2476) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718711)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Meredith Clark, an assistant professor at the Mayborn School of Journalism at the University of North Texas who is conducting research on the Black Lives Matter movement, told the Los Angeles Times the lack of outrage over Hammond’s death did not appear to be race-related. She said the lack of compelling video or a history of brutality complaints with the police department was more of a reason the story did not reach national levels."


    I read that part very closely.
    Your point?

    So tweets by BLM were all they did.


    All that was done by whom? As opposed to ... what ... else did you want them to do?

    Bye the way, from the quantity and length of your posts, I assumed you WERE retired.....lot of time on your hands? And yes I DO have a lot of time on my hands as I am happily retired, thanks for asking?


    9699 posts now, including this one.
    First post was late 2005 or (less likely) early 2006.
    Dividing by more days would provide a lower rate. So let's say January 1, 2006. 365*9 = 3285. 2 leap years in there. 3287 days. Since Jan. 1 of this year, add about 238 days, for a total. 3525 days. Divide this into the 9699, to obtain an average posting rate of a little more than 2.75 posts per day.

    Of course, this ignores hidden posts (deserved or not) as well as an extended vacation.

    It also assumes linearity, the same per day. Clearly, this is false. (Unless, of course, you think these are just facts for me to distort or ignore, lol ... .)

    Similarly, I am sure your analysis of my posting rate and the lengths of the posts was equally insightful, such as subtracting the length of the quoted parts (to put things in context) to see how long the remainder (my contribution) was.

    Even accounting for these things, the average posting rate would still be close to 2 or 3 posts, with some/many days of 0 and 1, some a little higher, some much higher. (Or do you dispute the non-linearity of my posting behavior and the works of Newton and Leibniz?)

    But, sure, let's talk about these things, with only one minor point regarding my previous post in this thread.

    Buy the way ... . ("Oh, well, whatever, nevermind.")
    2477) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718702)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?

    Yes please.


    First, remember that before 2008, the posting community here was more diverse and vibrant. It has never fully bounced back.

    Second, I have been trying to see both sides since at least age 23, so there's little to no transitioning occurring. Bobby says essentially the same for himself. I doubt Es is transitioning much. 272902 says he sees little transitioning in himself or others.

    The old maxims may no longer be holding. The reasons given by Michel and others may also explain why some 40somethings think as they do and are not transitioning to become more conservative as they age.

    What exactly is meant by transitioning? I have definitely become more left wing as I have grown older and wiser. I think Tami makes some very valid points in that the reason someone doesn't like young people gathering is most likely because of fear.


    In the context of this discussion, I think Chris first brought up the term and I think it is pretty clear he means moving from one side of the political spectrum to the other side, by whatever degree. Becoming more left wing, then, would not fit in this theory of transitions Chris has but rather seems to be one example in favor of my point. I think Bobby's making the same point.

    Chris, can we then take Es as counterpoint to your female relative? We're back to 0 to 0, then; i.e., single examples do not provide proof.
    2478) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1718669)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Logically, it follows that it is ok for the rest of the world to be susceptible to their own threats from within.

    That is a stupid argument. Logically it follows? By whose logic, yours? It is not up to the people of the US what form of government people in another country choose unless they ask for our help or become a threat to us. It IS on the other hand the business of the American citizenry, and nobody else, to determine our own course.


    I don't see Gary or Mark arguing with it.
    But I can see you did not understand.
    You said you do not care what other countries do regarding an equivalent to a 2nd Amendment.
    So, some or many countries may (and have) fallen to despots.
    Is it so hard for you to understand, regardless of how the US responds, it does make our existence more difficult? Interfere or don't interfere. Cold War or no, we are affected.

    If a people are sufficiently dissatisfied they will overthrow the perceived oppressors (most recently the Arab Spring). What succeeds that oppressive regime depends on the strength and resolve of the people. Sometimes it's a worse oppressor (The Islamic Brotherhood), or total chaos (as in Libya), when a vacuum is created it is filled, sometimes with evil such as ISIS (or are you defending their right to exist?, just using your own tactic of extrapolation to the absurd).


    You've gone way beyond. I am not defending their right to exist.
    Prior to your parenthetical comment, we agreed on that paragraph. But, I'm sure that ... .
    2479) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1718636)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The extravaganza of bold text appeared to suggest otherwise.


    You misinterpret passion as issues.

    I'm interested. I get why the right to bear arms was so cherished to begin with. Wherever colonial Britain stuck her snout - scars abound. I suspect the Africa thread will highlight a few. But you've been electing your own for long enough, and you're more armed than ever. Which leaves your civil war.

    Other nations disarmed on cessation of hostilities. Why not America?

    This entire part of your post indicates your misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the reason for the 2nd Amendment. The Right to keep and bear arms is not just for personal protection or as deterrent to invasion by a foreign power, it was intended by the authors as insurance against a tyrannical threat from within as well. A disarmed population is the first step to total control. Many examples exist in history I will not belabor them. I don't understand what your comment on the Civil War was about.

    If you don't mind another question? You believe gun ownership makes America a safer place. Do you advocate that the rest of the world follows your example?

    I really don't know where this comes from. No other government on earth that I am aware of, Constitutionally guarantees it's citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Speaking for myself I really don't care what the rest of the world does or does not want in the way of personal firearms. What I do have a BIG problem with is other countries trying to change our guaranteed rights(UN Small Arms Treaty). That is what 1776 was all about in the first place.


    Logically, it follows that it is ok for the rest of the world to be susceptible to their own threats from within. Only we should guarantee not being susceptible. And living in a world where some or all the rest of the world is enslaved by their tyrannical governments from within would be ... ?
    2480) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Universal time? (Message 1718623)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DST has nothing to do with GMT or UTC. We do not sign petitions in a science thread. Go bang your personal drum elsewhere please.

    When did you get to decide the rest of us do not sign petitions in an s@h science thread?


    Still wondering.


    Anybody else wondering?
    2481) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718607)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And so a Huffington Post editorial is your source.


    I suspect you are saying "the source is poison, so the story cannot be true".

    1) Oh,no! Fox talks about it as well! http://fox2now.com/2015/08/07/south-carolina-officer-shoots-unarmed-white-teen-during-pot-bust-2/

    2) There are sources within the Huffington Post source which you do not discuss. Perhaps you did not even notice them. They provided a link where you could read the tweets from several BLM propoonents. To discredit those sources, you would have to do a lot of research, such as proving many were from accounts claiming to be owned by blacks when in the person at the keyboard was not actually black or they were in fact black but they didn't post what they really felt but posted otherwise (perhaps to make themselves look better by defending a white, for example). I doubt you'd spend the time to discredit these things or, if you did, I bet that you'd have difficulty.

    Michael Brown was a thug, a bully and a punk no matter what color he was. Witnesses, Black Witnesses, testified before a Grand Jury that he charged the officer and tried to take his weapon. He never knelt and said that.


    Knelt and said ... what?

    Michel has already addressed the many other shootings. Can all be dismissed so easily? Yes, I saw the video of the store being robbed and it did look like it might be Michael Brown. I also saw several minutes of video of Tamir Rice at a seemingly empty park in Ohio, pacing around (IIRC, his sister was visible for a bit at the beginning). Then, with no apparent deletion of intervening video, a police car zooms up. I'd say the time from first seeing the car in a corner of the frame to seeing a body fall is about a mere 2 to 3 seconds. Do you dismiss this one as well? All of them?

    BLM is a movement based on a lie.


    Which lie?

    HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT is a lie.


    It is? How so? This could be read as saying "There longer exists a universal gesture nor statement one can make to indicate surrender to the police."

    The more I read what you're saying, I have to back up on the compliment of making what you believe very clear. I'm not so sure now.

    They tried to intimidate and bully Hillary Clinton into lip service instead of discussing the issue. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4noK5LFLs


    Is this the one where she essentially said, "You're not going to be able to change all hearts, so what we need to do is change the laws"?

    BLM 'leadership' such as it is ...


    Self-appointed leaders are not true leaders.

    Now, you worked very hard to redirect the conversation into what you wanted it to be. Yet, all you did was:

    1) Attempt to discredit the source.
    (A) Did not address the sources within the sources (link to several tweets).
    2) Discredit "leaders" of the movement.
    3) Discredit me. In my world, facts are the bread and butter. You know little to nothing about me. You have not been around long enough to see my real posts. If I was retired, I would unleash the full power of not distorting facts and cogent reasoning upon you like I used to do here years ago.

    You now have, count them, 3 sources, one of them a Fox source and another with sources inside the source. You're going to have to work harder at discrediting.

    Furthermore, the fact that you are trying to do so is mind-boggling.

    You favor limited government? You are a member of the NRA? You believe you reasonable fear that there will be a time when you need that gun to rise up against an oppressive government ... oppressive authorities? Then why do you have such a hard time believing there were times in recent years that some of our public servants ... our authority figures ... have acted with excessive force ... force not proportional to the situation, whether a white, black, Asian, Latino or whomever else was involved?

    If you believe in every single instance that's been discussed the last 1.5 years or so involved a legitimate level of force, well, then, maybe you can just retire, give me your gun because I could use more firepower if our government ever becomes too oppressive.[/quote]
    2482) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718596)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You really live in a messed up world if you think its acceptable for police to gun down someone for something as little as shoplifting.

    Yep, in Мишель's world you shouldn't even go to prison for petty crimes like robbing banks.

    Bank robberies


    You think someone like that should be stuck in jail for more than 7,5 years, which is the sentence they gave him? To me that sounds proportional.

    How is that arguing that people shouldn't go to jail for petty crimes?


    Good question.
    2483) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718595)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?

    Yes please.


    First, remember that before 2008, the posting community here was more diverse and vibrant. It has never fully bounced back.

    Second, I have been trying to see both sides since at least age 23, so there's little to no transitioning occurring. Bobby says essentially the same for himself. I doubt Es is transitioning much. 272902 says he sees little transitioning in himself or others.

    The old maxims may no longer be holding. The reasons given by Michel and others may also explain why some 40somethings think as they do and are not transitioning to become more conservative as they age.
    2484) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718337)
    Posted 26 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby sees here (and in general) pretty well the point of my post(s).
    So, next, does Chris (or anyone else) care to know why I think 40 somethings or transitioning viewpoint 40 somethings will be hard to find here?
    2485) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718322)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3PtX_Bw7Q

    Published on Aug 8, 2015

    (CNN)You think you've heard this story before. A young, unarmed man is gunned down by police, black activists are outraged -- the only difference with this scenario is that the young man is not black, he's white

    Didn't see one reference to BLM in your cited reference. All this shows is if you are in the company of a sought criminal you may become a collateral victim. I don't defend or accuse the officers involved, I wasn't there.

    Once again Sarge, like the camp trailer in the Walmart parking lot, there is no substance to your claim.


    That is not the only source, nor did you read closely. I quoted the caption added under the video.

    You made the extraordinary claim that Obama is promoting divisiveness.
    It is not the burden of the stater of the null hypothesis to bring evidence for or against it, but the one stating an alternate hypothesis.
    That I provided you anything is kindness.
    To show you further kindness and patience, I have now tracked down the original article I was exposed to, by a colleague: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zachary-hammond-police-killing_55c0e240e4b0c9fdc75dfda3?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067.

    As for the off topic bit about the campers at Wal Mart, rest assured, if I can further bolster my claim, I will return to that topic. I think you overestimate the number of people owning campers in that city, regardless of how many you see in your city tailgating at Raiders games.
    2486) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718298)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't wait to see how far "Black Lives Matter" will blow this incident out of proportion. The police have more efficient uses to devote their time than investigating a minor 'he said, she said' incident.

    Just another symptom of the divide and vilify culture promoted by Obama.

    And here comes the 'slings and arrows'.


    You mean the same BLM that is also defending white lives?


    Cite reference please.

    Here's the view of someone who actually lives there. **PLEASE BE AWARE OF SOME PROFANE LANGUAGE**
    https://video-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xpf1/v/t42.1790-2/11878300_1176910949004865_865831763_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjk2MSwicmxhIjozNzY2fQ%3D%3D&rl=961&vabr=534&oh=77b7d2d88fbadfb440c9fe3a93614f6e&oe=55DCFCF9

    Is SHE racist?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3PtX_Bw7Q

    Published on Aug 8, 2015

    (CNN)You think you've heard this story before. A young, unarmed man is gunned down by police, black activists are outraged -- the only difference with this scenario is that the young man is not black, he's white.
    2487) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Universal time? (Message 1718256)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DST has nothing to do with GMT or UTC. We do not sign petitions in a science thread. Go bang your personal drum elsewhere please.

    When did you get to decide the rest of us do not sign petitions in an s@h science thread?


    Still wondering.
    2488) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718253)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't wait to see how far "Black Lives Matter" will blow this incident out of proportion. The police have more efficient uses to devote their time than investigating a minor 'he said, she said' incident.

    Just another symptom of the divide and vilify culture promoted by Obama.

    And here comes the 'slings and arrows'.


    You mean the same BLM that is also defending white lives?
    2489) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718251)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...

    One side says they were too loud. The other says they were not.

    One side says no police were involved. The other side says that a deleted Facebook post shows otherwise.

    No reason, at this point, to know which side is telling the truth.


    When such a post is deleted, it usually indicates the post was in error.


    yup.


    Similarly, when a former mod overwrites all or most of his/her posts with "..." on his/her way out the door?

    You do also realize that, upon doing so, quotes remained, but now you/he/she no longer has a defense against altered, deliberate misquotes?

    Little problem with rewriting history, that.
    2490) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1718206)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...

    One side says they were too loud. The other says they were not.

    One side says no police were involved. The other side says that a deleted Facebook post shows otherwise.

    No reason, at this point, to know which side is telling the truth.


    When such a post is deleted, it usually indicates the post was in error.
    2491) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718138)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's what is wrong with society, the wrong people in the wrong places.

    That is the best quote you have made for quite a long time. Now shall we make a list, oooh where shall we start, plenty of material on these boards. Would you care to start the ball rolling?

    Sorry, we are sidestepping Tami's thread, wanna start a new one, I'm starting my list now!

    Lists?
    Sounds like J Edgar Hoover to me:(
    Or STASI:(


    No doubt the lists of one person would differ from the lists of another, eh, Janne?
    2492) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1718130)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge ......I thought you had more cents than to look at crap like that .


    It helps to know what the ideologues are saying and how they try to defend their silliness.
    2493) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1718128)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Janne 1 and Chris 0.

    Hehe glad you are enjoying the side show Sarge, complete with movie breaks. I hope it gets to J=100 Vs C=0 the more Janne posts the more silly he makes himself look, bring it on I say. Popcorn anyone?

    Sarge asked why there were no 40 year olds around. Simple answer is that they are out there running the world we live in. Those that gravitate to on line bulletin boards are the youngsters who think the world is being run wrongly, and the elder people who are now past running it. These sort of places are irrelevant to the shakers & movers.


    You mis-attribute the asker.
    2494) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717989)
    Posted 25 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Chris S.
    Pediaphobia - The fear of infants and/or young children
    Ephebiphobia - The fear of youth
    Gerontophobia - The fear of elders/seniors
    These fears often lead to discrimination. Any discrimination based on age is called ageism; discrimination against youth specifically is called adultism.

    The fear of youth is not a recent phenomenon: a cover title of Newsweek Magazine in 1954 read, "Let's Face It: Our Teenagers Are Out of Control." However, ephebiphobia is alive more than ever right now. In 2002, author Mike Males wrote, "Ephebiphobia... is a full-blown media panic. Images of “ordinary” teenagers besieging grown-up havens are everywhere... Today’s ephebiphobia is the latest installment of a history of bogus moral panics targeting unpopular subgroups to obscure an unsettling reality: Our worst social crisis is middle-Americans own misdirected fear."


    Janne 1 and Chris 0.
    2495) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717894)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG! Tell me this won't happen...

    Posting after death

    ...the young will never win...

    ...poor Seti :-(

    OMG, imagine if a Friday night poster ... no don't!


    Friday night's alright ... alright for posting. Alright, alright, oh my!
    2496) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717797)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But I do see stalking and sustained harassment as requiring legal redress. When some person says something and the same 3 or 4 people all turn up and decry it, then it is fairly obvious that there is a some sort of organised response going on. Well whoopie doo, I should be so deserving ....


    The community of posters in Politics is relatively small. Thus, when you

    simply tell


    your opinion via many many posts, it should not be surprising to find dissent.


    I notice you skipped over this part.
    2497) Message boards : Politics : U.S. Presidential issues questionnaire (Message 1717794)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    who you advocating , Obama's wife ......Say what !!!!!!!!!

    Advocating? Not really. But...

    #1 - Michelle appears much more competent than Hillary, and Barack - of course.

    #2 - Michelle appears to be much smarter than Hillary, and Barack - of course.

    #3 - Michelle is younger, and appears more energetic than Hillary, Warren and the other aged, too Left Wing to win, Democratic Contenders. (O'Malley is just a wimp).

    #4 - Michelle doesn't come with the same 'baggage' as Hillary. And doesn't have Hillary's track record of failure.

    #5 - No matter who the Republican Nominee is: Michelle would become our next President.

    Just a bit of advise for my Democrat Friends.


    I agree there Clyde I would seriously think about it if she could be convinced to run and her husbands legacy doesn't make people prejudge her .

    She is or was a Lawyer right !!

    So she is not stupid and I haven't herd anything bad about her neither .


    Then look up the youtube videos claiming she is really a man.
    2498) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717789)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, I do not think you will find (here or much elsewhere) these transitioning 40-somethings you seek.

    Yes I fear you are quite right about that. And we all know why as well.


    No, I don't think you do.
    2499) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717707)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But I do see stalking and sustained harassment as requiring legal redress. When some person says something and the same 3 or 4 people all turn up and decry it, then it is fairly obvious that there is a some sort of organised response going on. Well whoopie doo, I should be so deserving ....


    The community of posters in Politics is relatively small. Thus, when you

    simply tell


    your opinion via many many posts, it should not be surprising to find dissent.

    Also, I do not think you will find (here or much elsewhere) these transitioning 40-somethings you seek.
    2500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Possible to recover old account? (Message 1717598)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Provided you can remember the email address (and probably the password) you can recover accounts.

    But it is not possible to merge the accounts :-(


    Sorry, that is not entirely correct. My classic credit was recovered.
    2501) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Universal time? (Message 1717596)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I found other sources that indicate the UK did not invent longitude.


    You are about right Bob. The UK did start it, and other nations were happy to join in.

    Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is the mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London, from 1675. GMT was formerly used as the international civil time standard, now superseded in that function by Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).

    As the United Kingdom grew into an advanced maritime nation, British mariners kept at least one chronometer on GMT to calculate their longitude from the Greenwich meridian (for navigation), which was by convention considered to have longitude zero degrees, internationally adopted in the International Meridian Conference of 1884. Greenwich Mean Time was adopted across the island of Great Britain by the Railway Clearing House in 1847, and by almost all railway companies by the following year, from which the term "railway time" is derived.

    The main point is that the world now uses UTC for all precise scientific measurements, but by convention we use GMT in our daily lives. People still set their watches by the pips on the 6 o'clock news, despite modern radio controlled clocks. Old habits die hard.

    UTC was officially formalized in 1960 by the International Radio Consultative Committee in Recommendation 374, having been initiated by several national time laboratories. The system was adjusted several times until leap seconds were adopted in 1972 to simplify future adjustments. A number of proposals have been made to replace UTC with a new system that would eliminate leap seconds but no consensus has yet been reached.

    The current version of UTC is defined by International Telecommunications Union Recommendation (ITU-R TF.460-6), Standard-frequency and time-signal emissions, and is based on International Atomic Time (TAI).
    2502) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Universal time? (Message 1717594)
    Posted 24 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DST has nothing to do with GMT or UTC. We do not sign petitions in a science thread. Go bang your personal drum elsewhere please.

    When did you get to decide the rest of us do not sign petitions in an s@h science thread?
    2503) Message boards : Politics : Ephebiphobia (Message 1717443)
    Posted 23 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Мишелb - Tami has already given her age as 23, care to give yours?

    Meh, I'm almost 26.

    Cool. I'm 32.
    2504) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715984)
    Posted 20 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People here seem to enjoy bringing my personal life into this discussion.

    Now that's rich coming from the person that 1st crossed that "line that should have never been crossed" in the 1st place.

    Then you complain about "personal attacks" (sounds a lot like Clyde does these days) when a lot of your posts are just that (see above comment), and when not they look just like they come from your typical "know it all, know nothing" school yard bully.

    I find it also very funny that when you've backed yourself into a corner Hev turns up to try and pull you out (that pattern repeats itself constantly and is also very predictable), you never see Hev otherwise.

    You expect others to abide by 1 rule, but you act/think like that rule doesn't apply to you.

    And all this from someone who would be expected to set a good example to others and not a bad 1's?

    Well suck it up and stop complaining as you are the 1 responsible for it in the 1st place so live with it.

    Cheers.


    Add to that nothing specific was said. Es, you have children!
    2505) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715713)
    Posted 20 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My whole post was about the Royal Family in the context of the paparazzi, I am sorry you fail to see that. I shall explain again.


    I see exactly what you're saying. And it is easy to see you did and continue to conflate two issues.

    1) The royal family are paid to do nothing but serve as a distraction for the populace, i.e. "oooh, look at how much baby weight Kate has lost" etc.

    2) The Parazzi exists because of this. The media that obsesses about the Royal Family do so as a deliberate tactic to keep people distracted from the real problems.


    My post about Hawking goes against point 2.

    3) The royal family have no other function in modern society.


    Pretty much a rehash of point 1. Yet some have found useful ways to serve the greater good, as pointed out in Exhibits A and B regarding charity.

    4) They live and extremely privileged life because of this function. Their children go to schools that mine could only dream of. They have wealth that none of us can fathom.


    If, by some chance, you become the next Bill Nye (not entirely impossible), you could be hounded by paparazzi as Hawking was.

    5) The paparazzi hound them because this is the role of the royal family. Although other people could get hounded, they do not get paid millions of pounds to do so. There is no sweetener for the average person in the street. I suspect there are many people out there who would swap places with the royal family in a heartbeat despite this.


    A rehash of earlier points.

    [quote[6) I have no sympathy for them because they are fine. They will always be fine. They have had far more than most people, they are not treated as ordinary and they get far more protection than ordinary people. There are many people deserving of my pity. The royal family are not any of them.[/quote]

    Humans are humans.
    They will always be fine? On what do you base this prediction? How's the former royal family of France doing?
    2506) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715707)
    Posted 20 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon Sarge, Hawking is pretty well respected.


    In the context of the rest of the thread, the reason for posting that link is clear.

    At least Hawking has done something of merit to earn the public attention.

    edit:and I don't mean nearly run Gary over.


    And now to completely destroy your point of being worthless: http://www.dianaexhibition.com/diana/charity-work.

    You do know she's dead, right?


    Despite a certain poster's questionable posting style over the past few months or so, said poster is not entirely wrong when calling you out on your own posting style. While I wish to continue considering you a friend, do please think how it comes across asking someone if he knows Diana is dead sounds. (Like many, I can recall where I was, what I was doing, etc. ... when I learned of her death, just as I recall learning about the two space shuttle disasters and 9/11.)

    Now, to topic: you didn't object to my pointing out Diana's charitable activities, only that she's now dead. Without further elaboration, may I then take it you had some degree of respect for Diana at least because of her charity work?

    If so, then please consider Exhibit B.

    Also note that I have not commented, at all, about what I believe regarding whether any country should still have a monarchy. You can probably guess what I think about that, though. My posts, though, question your dehumanization of them.
    2507) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715663)
    Posted 20 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon Sarge, Hawking is pretty well respected.


    In the context of the rest of the thread, the reason for posting that link is clear.

    At least Hawking has done something of merit to earn the public attention.

    edit:and I don't mean nearly run Gary over.


    And now to completely destroy your point of being worthless: http://www.dianaexhibition.com/diana/charity-work.
    2508) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715511)
    Posted 19 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon Sarge, Hawking is pretty well respected.


    In the context of the rest of the thread, the reason for posting that link is clear.
    2509) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1715302)
    Posted 19 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmmm, sorry, no. Stephen Hawking exists for the paparazzi and the paparazzi exist for Hawking.

    http://www.danwei.org/media_and_advertising/science_vs_the_paparazzi_strin.php
    2510) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1714648)
    Posted 17 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no enjoyment.

    Then why do it?


    See the bolded below.

    Perhaps unlikely, but there could be a time when you become a person the media pays attention to, starts to hound you and then hound your children. (Now, to further point out the lack of enjoyment, this could happen, no matter how unlikely it is not impossible, to any poster or reader no matter the gender or amount of their younglings.
    If that happens to you or anyone else, your children should not be dragged into the media's new and sudden obsession with you.


    Clearly, "you" and "your" were like "Sie" in Deutsch, rather than "du" and "dein"

    Agreed, however, when my children have access to the things that the royal children have at the public's expense, the public will no doubt want their pound of flesh. If not for the public entertainment, what are they actually for?


    So, your solution to bread and circuses is to replace it with a different type of bread and different circuses? Spoiler alert: Katniss shoots Coin, not Snow. Why?

    Incorrect. There was no bandwagon. What I did see was a sinister and quite fascist demand that these photographers be arrested and deported. Such a horrible and offensive post needed to be put in perspective.

    The royal family are parasites. They have no place in modern Britain or Canada. As such I have very little sympathy for them.


    No, correct. This is off topic, so discuss the need or lack of need for royals in the new thread.

    Also note that dehumanizing those on welfare is the same as dehumanizing royals. Dehumanizing is dehumanizing no matter who it is about and how it is worded. We all suffer for it.

    Certainly not enough to start behaving like a police-state towards people trying to photograph them. If the paparazzi are breaking any laws such as assault or trespass, they should be dealt with as if they were harassing any other citizen.


    Most or all of this sounds like something for another thread.

    As far as I can tell this thread is about the Paparazzi. What did you think it was about?


    By separating your quotes, we can finally see the only spot where you discussed paparrazi. What did you and others try to turn the thread's topic to be?

    Last, I think it was Bernie who said and said it well enough about someone's recent posting behavior. The only thing to add was about separating out the points into different threads, which has now been done (though not assisted by the mods in the movement of particular posts into the appropriate thread(s)).
    2511) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1714207)
    Posted 17 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I highly doubt you wanted your two sons hounded at the age of 2. No child of that age deserves that, royal or not.

    People here seem to enjoy bringing my personal life into this discussion.]/quote]


    There is no enjoyment.

    However, my children did not have any of the privileges that the royal children do, they will however have to subsidise these people. Fortunately not so much here in Canada.


    Perhaps unlikely, but there could be a time when you become a person the media pays attention to, starts to hound you and then hound your children. (Now, to further point out the lack of enjoyment, this could happen, no matter how unlikely it is not impossible, to any poster or reader no matter the gender or amount of their younglings.
    If that happens to you or anyone else, your children should not be dragged into the media's new and sudden obsession with you.

    You know that, but you jumped on the bandwagon of questioning the UK continuance of royalty. That should be for another thread.

    Incorrect. There was no bandwagon. What I did see was a sinister and quite fascist demand that these photographers be arrested and deported. Such a horrible and offensive post needed to be put in perspective.

    The royal family are parasites. They have no place in modern Britain or Canada. As such I have very little sympathy for them. Certainly not enough to start behaving like a police-state towards people trying to photograph them. If the paparazzi are breaking any laws such as assault or trespass, they should be dealt with as if they were harassing any other citizen.


    Most or all of this sounds like something for another thread.
    2512) Message boards : Politics : Paparazzi (Message 1714198)
    Posted 17 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I take it that as someone that is so against feudal dynasties i.e. Monarchies, that you will be renouncing y our Canadian citizenship shortly and be moving to the USA or elsewhere similar. You would not want to leave yourself open to thoughts of hypocrisy I am quite sure.


    -100

    I've seen where you've made this kind of post before. Poor. Very poor.

    :-[

    Don't worry, personal attacks are usually a sign that the person has no real argument to make.


    I highly doubt you wanted your two sons hounded at the age of 2. No child of that age deserves that, royal or not. You know that, but you jumped on the bandwagon of questioning the UK continuance of royalty. That should be for another thread.
    2513) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1713830)
    Posted 16 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I found this rather entertaining cartoon on George Will's column

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will081315.php3

    Entitled:

    Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican


    LOL... yep.


    Or not?
    2514) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1713266)
    Posted 15 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No issue. Just a question. Should it be possible for anyone who wants to present themselves at the border, show their medical, pass a criminal check, pay a small fee, and be assigned a number and let in? Like it was when your ancestors came?


    I don't see why not.
    As long as they are applying legally to this country, I have no problem with admitting them. Let them come. Legally.


    Great, then you support an amnesty program allowing them all to become legal provided they can pass those prerequisite checks.

    I agree.

    Does msattler agree?


    If he did, he probably would've responded by now. (A little lesson in the posting habits of individual users. Signed, Hari Seldon.)
    2515) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1712979)
    Posted 14 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No issue. Just a question. Should it be possible for anyone who wants to present themselves at the border, show their medical, pass a criminal check, pay a small fee, and be assigned a number and let in? Like it was when your ancestors came?


    Or, if the ancestors were early enough, hop on a ship, brave the ocean and worry about falling off the "edge" and when they didn't, land on the opposite shore, stride in (getting water in their boots), walk up and, if someone was there to greet them, say "Hola!"?

    I mean, they sure didn't say "Hello!" or "Wie geht es?" at the earliest landings.
    2516) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1712501)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is coming into sharper focus now.

    Interesting. Beginning to wonder if the focus knob is connected to the PM?


    Possibly the elevation?


    Or perhaps perspective?


    Indeed.
    2517) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : CERN (Message 1712479)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There you go, what have I always said? All that will happen is the the LHC will discover more smaller and different particles, it will NOT solve the Universe.

    New particle


    Solve the Universe???
    2518) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1712464)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is coming into sharper focus now.

    Interesting. Beginning to wonder if the focus knob is connected to the PM?


    Possibly the elevation?

    2519) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1712385)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will say the Donald has rasied issues that should have been talked about, But were not. Immagration for one, Amensty for another.
    Sure he says stupid stuff. But he will answer the question. How many of the mealy mouthed idiots who run give a non answer?
    Hes only bringing up issues that should be openly talked about. But NO we have to suck up to the voters and say nothing that can be used against us.
    And then we wonder why get it up the keyster no matter who we vote for.


    I'm sorry, James, but immigration was most definitely being talked about before Trump announced his candidacy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm7ndHb3RqE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMwRNO3cuA
    2520) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1712382)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is coming into sharper focus now.
    2521) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1712111)
    Posted 13 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fact or your personal opinion? Is there some external influence on the market that distorts the laissez faire system and makes their salaries far higher than elasticity and the demand curve would have them?

    It takes a skill set most people don't have to be a CEO and obey the Fiduciary duty to the shareholder. Besides the obvious skill sets of management and business acumen there is a dark side. You can't be a nice guy ever. You have to be bastard 24/7. Every minute you need to be finding redundancy and firing good loyal employees because you don't need them. You need to run the rest ragged and get double the work out of them for half the pay. You have to pretend to be friends with underlings to motivate them, while cussing them out as no good second class losers. You have to ship that defective product you know will hurt people but the legal judgements will cost you less than remaking a warehouse full of it. You must find ways around government ethics/safety regulations to increase your profit. Being a CEO is being a 99.999% legal con man while making sure the other 0.001% of the time you aren't caught. Of course you have to get a good nights sleep while doing this. Are you so sure that skill set is out there in large numbers? I would hope not, as I hope most of our fellow men would never be so morally bankrupt.
    <ed>I think I just described Al Capone

    That is part of the difference between public and private ownership. In the private case the boss can follow the morals of the owner. In the public case the fiduciary duty to the shareholder to make the most money possible must be followed by law, and that becomes the morality of the company. The morality of legal ethics.

    Yeah see, what you just described is an absolutely worthless businessmen. That guy, you know how he makes profits? By running a company into the ground. He cuts entire deparments, sells of entire divisions and then screws over customers. All it gets him are short term profits. Then, after 5 years he has moved over to the next company to do the same thing, but the previous company is just a shell of what it was. And it starts to make less profits, causing the next managers to cut even more jobs, sell off more divisions and screw over more customers, just so it looks like they are making money. And in a few years, the company is dead. Sold off in its entirety.

    What you described is not Al Capone, what you described is Dracula. Corporate vampires that suck companies dry.

    Is that someone you want to pay 400 times the rate of what the rest of his company earns? Are those skills that you want to reward?


    http://definitions.uslegal.com/b/breach-of-fiduciary-duty/

    Gary has spoken about fiduciary duty several times.

    When one person does agree to act for another in a fiduciary relationship, the law forbids the fiduciary from acting in any manner adverse or contrary to the interests of the client, or from acting for his own benefit in relation to the subject matter. The client is entitled to the best efforts of the fiduciary on his behalf and the fiduciary must exercise all of the skill, care and diligence at his disposal when acting on behalf of the client. A person acting in a fiduciary capacity is held to a high standard of honesty and full disclosure in regard to the client and must not obtain a personal benefit at the expense of the client.


    Also, if I have understood correctly, Gary is not in favor of this law.
    Am I correct, Gary?

    In any case, what this shows is that it may not be what most of us in the US want rewarded, but that somebody wants it rewarded and so has made it something that is indeed rewarded.
    2522) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1710543)
    Posted 9 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, it does matter where the money is. Always has been, always will be. Economics 101.

    Re: "Actual Communists".

    Only those, fitting Einstein's definition of Insanity. Would try again.

    No, it doesn't, not for this. People are mad because they don't have the money, thats what is important here. They don't care if the 1% has their money hidden in their mattress or on a bunch off shore bank accounts or in the form of investments.

    As for the stupidity of trying Communism again, well different time, different place, different people, completely different situation. Einsteins definition of insanity wouldnt apply.


    Didn't Marx argue it must come from the proletariat in a highly industrialized country and, since Lenin was from a bourgeoisie to very wealthy family and Russia was not at the time highly industrialized then it should be no surprise it failed. The axioms weren't satisfied.
    2523) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1709614)
    Posted 7 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor asks us to all reflect on the events 70 years ago today, and pledge that it never happens again.

    All Hail Thor!


    Gary and I don't agree on everything, but we agree on this. Gary is wise.

    Oops. Ummm, replace Gary with Thor in all instances above.

    Though I suspect Gary designed Thor. :)
    2524) Message boards : Politics : Hey! You Gots Dat Shipment Packed Stacked and Ready to Go? (Message 1709326)
    Posted 6 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is the proof for his statement, that the Right Wing allegations are false?

    Editing a long tape, is not the same as falsifying the evidence. If any.

    Correct?

    Did you not read the 5 links I posted? Four of them clearly stated that the tape was edited in such a way to make Planned Parenthood look like they were doing something illegal. The 5th link showed that the organization that made the tape and who edited it have connections to a domestic terrorist organization. But sure, by all means, trust their word for it when they say they did no such thing.


    As I have not followed the links, do they provide evidence that the tapes are edited in such a way as to misrepresent the story or do they just claim that?
    2525) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1709323)
    Posted 6 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I for one dont post to get praised. I post to give my point of view. Some like it some dont. I like the exchange of ideas that can help me expand my own mind and make me grow as a human being, On ideas I would never have thought of.

    Do I like being called out on some of my opinions and beliefs. No. But how else can I learn different ways of thinking about a subject If I close my mind to other ways.
    I dont post in politics like I used to. In fact I dont post much in any of the other forums either. But I do read the threads every day.

    There are calls to do away with the politics thread. I have always stated that would be a big mistake. I have lost a lot of my stereotypical bigoted ideas thanks to this forum. Yes I still have a hell of a long way to go. Buts its this place that is changing those views.


    That reading and sharing here has changed how you think provides evidence weakening of the argument that we are "ideologues". I have already provided Clyde a hint of a change in my thinking. I wonder if he caught it? (Hint: I will still defend those who choose to believe in a certain thing even if I do not believe similarly anymore.)
    2526) Message boards : Politics : Hey! You Gots Dat Shipment Packed Stacked and Ready to Go? (Message 1709319)
    Posted 6 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He was being silly. But making a valid point. And my reply was sarcastic. But making a valid point.

    So?


    Fascinating.
    2527) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1708700)
    Posted 5 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One thing I noticed was American Samoa has *different* minimum-wages for *different* industries. Maybe the rest of the USA might need to consider this. Or not.


    As this mirrors a suggestion I was going to make, please elaborate on the potential pros and cons you see in this.
    2528) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1708694)
    Posted 5 Aug 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I must say, I appreciate the retraction.
    You are correct that I am a left/right thinker. As I am left-handed, simplifying for you, that means I have an artistic side. However, my hemispheres are nearly balanced, I also have other aptitudes which I chose to hone, seek training in and work in those areas.
    I doubt you have read all 9645 of my other posts. (This does not included hidden posts or hose posts lost with a big message board data base error some years ago.) I doubt you have read much of what I said more than 2 years ago, Clyde. (How's Bonnie?)

    They make stupid, silly, and nonthinking assertions. Then other Shallow, Cloistered Culture types say - Oh how wonderful and brilliant you are.


    This reminds me of something Erich von Daniken said on Ancient Aliens. That he did not expect to be immediately believed and applauded by the scientific community, but that he also did not expect the attacks.

    In any case, your so-called non-ideological viewpoint seems to be anything but non-ideological, as do many of your observations of this community! Please, please, please, find many examples and post them here me being praised, Angela being praised, Bobby being praised, Chris S being praised, Es99 being praised, Gary being praised, Glenn Saville being praised, James Sotherden being praised, KWSN MajorKong being praised, msattler being praised, OzzFan being praised, you being praised and so on. You've made an assertion, so back it up, so we can praise you! ;)

    Some of my posts, and threads, are pressure valves. While you think we reveal so much about ourselves in them and elsewhere, you miss the hints (such as the opening paragraph). As stated before, you reveal much about yourself. You have stated these message boards are just for wasting time. Yet you post so much here. It is clear you feel very strongly about what you post. It is clear you feel just about everybody else posting here is wrong about just about absolutely everything. What threads have you not posted in? I suspect you post in just about every one of them. You are very convinced of how correct you are. This, I believe, comes close to the definition of an ideologue.


    Hi Sarge. How are you doing?


    Thank you for your "concern". I'm sure you "missed" me for 4 days, right?
    Of course you didn't. Look, you can't even catch the hints I drop you, so why should I tell you more? Based on your posting style, you do not deserve to learn more about us. So, I'll let it drive you crazy that I do not see most of your posts. I'll let it drive you crazy when I do not post for days, weeks or months at a time. It will drive you crazy because that's one less person you can rant against.

    (Here's another hint: besides practical reasons, another reason I do not post in every thread and sometimes disappear is because I don't know everything! That's hardly something an ideologue would say. Yet, you seem to have something to say on just about every topic brought up in S@H Politics.)[/quote]
    2529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Skype warning (Message 1707178)
    Posted 31 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have been informed today that a fellow Setizen has received a Skype message, apparently from me, giving links that lead to infected web sites. I have not used my Skype account for many months, so I can safely say that they did not, and would not, have come from me.

    My skype account appears to have been compromised, so accordingly I have changed the password. If anyone else receives a similar message purporting to be from me, please delete it and ignore it.

    Thank you.


    Was the site mentioned by the Setizen a supposed Google Plus site?
    2530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim Hunt/Captain Avatar (Message 1706900)
    Posted 31 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Tim and Dog...in times gone by..

    Greetings Gnu,

    Does photobucket not allow images to be copied once they are on their site?

    I have tried to save the photo so I can memorialize Timmy, but it keeps coming to me as being corrupted or whatever. That's what Windows photo viewer tells me anyway.

    Keep on BOINCing...! :)


    Not sure if Siran has been checking back, but: please try this version.

    2531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "I'll be back..." (Message 1706896)
    Posted 31 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AWESOMESAUSE!!! It was excellent. I do believe a sequel can be in the works.

    @TL and @Sarge
    Did you watch the end credits? Around halfway through there is a scene. I do believe a sequel can happen.

    I forgot to mention that one needs to stay through the entire end credits. (With what is done with Marvel movies; I just take it for granted that there is a "surprise", now, with most movies - so, I just stay through to the very end...)


    TL


    I did not stay. I saw some people sitting through the credits and said to myself, "This .isn't 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off'". Should I go back to see it or wait to buy it
    2532) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1706891)
    Posted 31 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rather more likely is that the irony detector was spot on, and continues to be and that I was attempting to draw you out into expressing what you really believe regarding the desire to work versus laziness.

    However it is irrelevant to the question if an individuals total compensation is more if they work less, as willingness to work would not be a factor in the decision: To Work or Not?


    I was about to say "fair enough" to it being irrelevant to your question.
    But is it?
    Are the only rewards of work monetary? (Is it foolish to [i]not]/i] look at work solely based on money?)
    2533) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1706889)
    Posted 31 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Not bad. Above your usual silliness.

    Sarge...

    There is perhaps hope for you.


    You base your qualification of my "usual" on limited observations. Such an approach is impractical.
    2534) Message boards : Politics : Liberal or Conservative? (Message 1706746)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For my money, I am with Peter Stuyvesant when he founded the successful colony of New York. "No work---No eat"


    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." Who said it? Sure sounds to me like (most) people need to work.
    2535) Message boards : Politics : Liberal or Conservative? (Message 1706737)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This quite funny to me, because this is how I see myself. Yet your recent posts to me indicate you believe me to be 100% liberal when in fact I identify more with Libertarianism (with a few notable exceptions).

    My 'Bad'.

    I do apologize.


    This is why some of your responses to others seem really flippant. As I said to you previously, you have put people into boxes they probably don't belong in simply because you disagreed with one or two of their positions, and you have assumed the rest of their viewpoints accordingly.

    My guess is you probably noticed a time when I actually agreed with a liberal solution so you assumed my entire viewpoint was that of a liberal. I do have several viewpoints that coincide with liberals, so it would be easy to make that mistake, but it is dangerous to assume that all of my views are liberal. Most people are more complex than that, which is why the 'independants' are a large group in the U.S.

    I am a Left Winger when it comes to understanding the Foundations of most Problems. But do not agree with most of their 'Solutions'. And especially the Foundation of their 'Solutions'.


    Agreed. It really depends on the problem and which solution is the worse of two evils.

    If I understand how you describe yourself. Would we be considered Schizophrenic? :) :) :)


    Heh. No. It would mean we're likely progressive in our thinking (liberal), but pragmatic in our application of spending money.

    What would our brains show, if asked the same questions?


    Dancing monkeys vs chinchillas? :-P


    Lenin was from a wealthy family.
    2536) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1706731)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote] So what is going on?

    Gary I do consider the source, Faux news. Since I live across Puget Sound from Seattle and most of my local news comes from there I hear of very few locals complaining. Most seem to find it to be a non event since it has not gone into effect yet.


    Wow, not even in effect yet? Wow.

    Except it has, at least one step.


    Pardon for posting before reading the rest of what you and betreger said regarding the issue.

    Or maybe, they started counting the "homeless Kurt Cobain wannabes" again?

    Seriously, though ... . Gary, your ending comment in the opening post sounds Marxist! "Everybody wants to work." (Funny how so many miss this, as well as "from each according to his abilities".)

    Personally, I do believe most want to work and that living on assistance is not easy. (I know how hard this has been on a friend and his small family the last 1.5 years.) But can we really say everyone wants to work? 100%? While 47% sounds ridiculous, is no one lazy?

    What hearsay. The people know for a fact that no one is lazy. Everyone contributes. There is no 47% or even 99% or 1%! All are equal.

    Give your irony detector a clean out! It was very intentional so that there could be no issue with lazy complaints.


    Rather more likely is that the irony detector was spot on, and continues to be and that I was attempting to draw you out into expressing what you really believe regarding the desire to work versus laziness.
    2537) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1706669)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is welfare more valuable than work?

    Yes.
    So good to know that Welfare is more valuable that work.
    Thats why we work.
    Well, just goes to show that there are dolts out there. :)


    I believe that assessment of Janne is unfair as English is not his first language.
    Perhaps you could have restated your point or your question.
    Welfare has multiple meanings. For example, I was concerned about your welfare when you disappeared from posting for some time about a year ago.
    It need not only refer to government assistance.
    2538) Message boards : Politics : To Work or Not? (Message 1706665)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So what is going on?

    Gary I do consider the source, Faux news. Since I live across Puget Sound from Seattle and most of my local news comes from there I hear of very few locals complaining. Most seem to find it to be a non event since it has not gone into effect yet.


    Wow, not even in effect yet? Wow.
    Or maybe, they started counting the "homeless Kurt Cobain wannabes" again?

    Seriously, though ... . Gary, your ending comment in the opening post sounds Marxist! "Everybody wants to work." (Funny how so many miss this, as well as "from each according to his abilities".)

    Personally, I do believe most want to work and that living on assistance is not easy. (I know how hard this has been on a friend and his small family the last 1.5 years.) But can we really say everyone wants to work? 100%? While 47% sounds ridiculous, is no one lazy?
    2539) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1706658)
    Posted 30 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2540) Message boards : Politics : Liberal or Conservative? (Message 1702028)
    Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What if you tend to be Liberal, regarding Social Issues., and tend to be Conservative, regarding Economic Issues?


    This quite funny to me, because this is how I see myself. Yet your recent posts to me indicate you believe me to be 100% liberal when in fact I identify more with Libertarianism (with a few notable exceptions).

    My 'Bad'.

    I do apologize.

    I am a Left Winger when it comes to understanding the Foundations of most Problems. But do not agree with most of their 'Solutions'. And especially the Foundation of their 'Solutions'.

    If I understand how you describe yourself. Would we be considered Schizophrenic?

    What would our brains show, if asked the same questions?


    Because I am probably one of the few here with balanced hemispheres, I suspect you will never be able answer this question. :) :) :) :)

    P.S.-that's an example of Ozz's idea of opening up. But I'm sure you'll do something like point out the dangers of near hemispherical balance. Don't worry, bud, I already read some of the reports about it.
    2541) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1702026)
    Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OzzFan...

    You have disappointed me. Thought there might be some hope for you. Regarding an Intelligent Back-and-Forth Discussion.

    Clyde there is so seldom forth from you that discussion is impossible.

    Do understand.

    But you have to understand.

    My attackers, which include you, do not understand this:

    Although your silly attacks, and false ascertains, may succeed in silencing others, in your little, and shallow thinking universe.

    Your, and others of your type. Obsessive Inner Need to Silence and Ridicule, those who are not you:

    Shows me I am correct in my assessment.

    I will continue to respond to your, and others, obviously desperate attempts at Ridicule, Childish Attacks, and False Ascertains.

    Why not. I find your type fascinating.


    False this, false that, Jesus hit me in the head with a wiffle ball bat.
    Sebse of humor: some of will respond to Adam Sandler movie references.
    Or, you could yadda yadda yadda kitty man's thread no longer being about sparing a square and sponge-worthiness.
    But, to be more to the point: you name things you have done from the beginning or very nearly so. I sent you wise-guy PMs at the beginning to lightly warn you of the error of your ways, but,no, you had to plow on and now you cry that on occasions people lose patience with you, dishing out what you dish all the time. That anybody still gives you creedence revival of the clearwater in FLorida (waving to Tom de la Cruz) is absolutely astounding.
    To be honest, I think the last such example of such incredible patience (not by me this time) was by me in 2006 and 2007 with atheist rappa Chuck D. (Funny how OzzFan and Gary's SHORT inputs on a few of these matters helped plant a seed to change my thinking. Which, of course, never actually changed, because, naturally, I am an Ideologue and by your wack definition tyhat's what I am and how I am.)

    POINT BLANK, buddy, MOST OF US are here to GAIN additional ways of looking at things. This place used to be a LOT more active. It is quieter now, not because others were silenced, but because a small number of the silencers held power and abused it. Project admin/scientists eventually dealt with it. But, a price was, with a calmer and more peaceful board compared to before, also less diversity. Most of us that remain do enjoy the DISCUSSIONS. If you do not believe or like that, I could come up with a few choice phrases with what I'd like you to do with your UNINFORMED *beliefs*.
    2542) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1702025)
    Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question...

    What is YOUR Solution to the Evils of Capitalism.

    Good starting point, for this discussion.


    Let's start a new thread if we're going to change subjects, shall we?


    Not the question?

    How did I know you could not answer, without proving my point.

    Thank you.


    I don't know CLYDE. How did you know I couldn't answer without proving your point? You're just too smart for me! You've out-witted me with your superior discussion skills. I am defeated!

    Responding to your question, is 'changing subjects'.


    Yes, answering my question was changing subjects. That doesn't give us license to continue to move the thread even further off topic. I didn't realize that trying to avoid hijacking threads was my attempt to avoid answering your questions though. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Why don't we both admit defeat, and move on.

    :) :) :)


    Because, despite what you obviously think, I am not here as some sort of sport to "defeat" the other person. Your responses betray that you actually do think that is the purpose of discussion here.

    It's no wonder that no one can engage in discussion with you. Your automatic defenses to your ideology prevent you from seeing outside your position. To this Atheist of your ideology, you seem afraid to open up.


    This would go against his early claim that these message boards and their discussions are pointless and worthless and merely for killing time. Not an exact quote but a darn good paraphrase.
    2543) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1702024)
    Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could it be said that proposing the destruction of "left wing/right wing secular ideology" is itself an ideology that has the potential to snuff out a few hundred million, perhaps even a couple of billion, people?


    I told CLYDE the same exact thing once upon a time. Every person's opinion is their belief system or ideology. Yet CLYDE proffers that he's an Atheist to ideology, and has named all "ideology" the enemy. He claims ideology is like a religion and asserts those stating a strong belief in something that happens to be in line with left-wing or right-wing are akin to religious beliefs.

    I attempted to point out the irony of his claims but he hasn't yet realized how impossible his position is.

    OzzFan...

    You, and others, sharing your Belief System, do not, nor will never understand this:

    Non-practical, I Have The Truth, Ideology/Religion Believers. Are, what they are. Which, as History Instructs. Will eventually, if they gain power, murder and enslave Innocents.

    Is a Believer in a Religion and/or Ideology, capable of Thinking outside their very small box?

    Haven't seen any evidence of that, yet.

    Sorry in disturbing your 'Of us, By us, For us' thinking. This Blasphemer and Apostate, to your 'Beliefs', cannot help himself.


    CLYDE...

    Why do you claim I don't understand your position? Is it because I disagree with your assertions that you conclude I mustn't understand lest I would agree with you? What box have you put me in that you think I can't think outside of?

    Those are serious questions. You seem to think that disagreement with another is equivalent to an inability to understand or consider other positions to a given scenario.

    By all means... 'disturb' my thinking and enlighten me. That is the entire reason I enjoy reading posts of opposing views. But please, at least engage in answering questions posed of you so that I may better understand rather than your typical hand waiving non-responses.


    Worst of all, "I Have The Truth: ... he's one of the few here that acts as if he is in any possession of truth. Thus, all that's left to still judge him on is the "practicality" of his "Truthiness".
    2544) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1702023)
    Posted 16 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Destroy, destruction ... those are strong, angry words.

    Attempting the destruction of ideologues, whether they are secular, religious, left wing, right wing, or any combination thereof, strikes me as being an exercise in futility - much like a game of whack-a-mole. Which particular ideology is the "greater enemy" (and therefore, in your world, up for early obliteration) is a matter of subjective opinion - and your opinion is that it is a numbers game. Well, good luck with that. More moles to whack, I guess.

    I think that Tim Lott's opinion piece published in The Guardian earlier this year, shortly after the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris, presents an interesting take on ideologues. Could it be said that proposing the destruction of "left wing/right wing secular ideology" is itself an ideology that has the potential to snuff out a few hundred million, perhaps even a couple of billion, people?



    I claim that very few people are ideologues except under whatever bizarre definition Clyde holds. Waving to Clyde from within 60 miles of the banished kitty man, lol!
    2545) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1700578)
    Posted 11 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is freedom of religion?

    Can the government give you this without having to decide what is a religion? Does the government having to define religion make freedom or religion impossible?

    This is a serious question that does not have an easy answer in the traditional sense. So many of us are rooted in Abrahamic religious practices that we would not find other practices to be religious at all. If the Government were to use such a test it would fail to give freedom to other practices, such as offerings to the volcano god.

    Government must not fall into the trap of only making rules that the followers of Abraham would enjoy, but make rules for a corporal reason. For instance a rule preventing offerings be left to the gods, but a rule for sanitation purposes preventing litter being left to rot. So they can make their offering, but before it rots and becomes a health hazard they have to clean it up.

    Then there is freedom from religion. Does this mean that the individual gets to shut out the world? Many troglodytes would enjoy that, but religions that believe in proselytizing would hate it. Or does this mean the Government will not adopt a religion and all laws need to be based on demonstrable facts. For instance a law against murder, not a law against human sacrifice.

    The happy medium would not give tax breaks to religions, so that the government never has to decide is a particular practice is a religion and hence tax free, or weigh in on what isn't a religion and hence taxed.

    The happy medium would not target a religious practice, but have rational reason to place restrictions on conduct or encouraging it.

    I think you are missing the point of religion, and therefor of religious freedom a bit. Religion is far more than just a set of practices like going to a church on a set date or offering some food at an altar or whatever. Religion at its core is a system of beliefs, and thats where the real freedom of religion comes in. It means you can have any system of beliefs you want, no matter how outrageous those might be, and the government will not prosecute you for it. That also eliminates the need for the government to come in and determine what sort of religion is 'real' and what sort of religion isn't.


    Actually, I think you are the one missing the point, and it could be due to not being in the USA. What Gary is referring to is whether a government checking whether a "church" is "real" to see if it is really deserving of a tax exempt status.
    2546) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1700214)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Handouts via social services are gonna stop dead.
    Yes, crime might rise for a short while when the entitled find out the are not anymore.
    Once everybody realizes there is no free lunch anymore, there is going to be a landslide in crime. But not if we have enough bullets.


    So, you think the acceptable way forward is to make life more difficult for the poor (those you describe as "entitled"), and when they rise up due to poor conditions, your answer is to kill them with bullets since they will be criminals.

    How is this the answer? Why is killing people the right thing to do?

    I'm just trying to understand why you obviously have no regard for human life but then profess to love Jesus Christ. WWJD?


    Jesus
    2547) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1700188)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll spend the money.
    It would cost less in the long run to do it right and stop the bleeding from across the border than to do nothing and support countless illegals streaming across to take our life's savings from us who have supported and contributed to the system for all of our working lives to rather than to give it to some bastard who never contributed a dime and now thinks he has rights to our social services.

    F all of them, every single one of them.

    Build the damned wall, Mr. Trump.


    You shall NOT, repeat NOT spend ONE dime of MY tax money to wall US in. GOT THAT buddy?
    2548) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1700175)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But they took our jobs!


    Rationality dang you for pointing that out! My rationality is better than your rationality. Only my rationality leads to the right conclusions. P.S.: don't piss off the otters.
    2549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "I'll be back..." (Message 1700051)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Going to see Terminator with a friend, today. :-)


    TL


    Saw it yesterday. Was good. And I'd say still room for sequels.
    2550) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1700048)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was raised in both the African Methodist Episcopal Church (A.M.E) and the Episcopal Church and I respect and enjoy the religious freedom that Amendment I of the Constitution expresses"

    AmendmentI:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
    religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    ; or abridging
    the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right
    of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
    Government for a redress of grievances.


    My question is this - If we are guaranteed the freedom of religion, are we not also guaranteed the freedom from religion?


    Cliff, do you mean freedom from religion as imposed by government or freedom from the religion of other individuals?
    2551) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1699991)
    Posted 10 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's really not that hard to be a Christian these days Mark.

    Just don't try and force your beliefs on others and you'll get far, both personally and in business. ;-)

    Cheers.

    And force your beliefs upon Muslims, or any other Religion?

    Tolerance, and belief in Freedom for All. Is a Two Way Street.


    What is your issue with Muslims? And what has it to do with this thread?

    There is no issue with Muslims of course. He just has to throw out the chum to see if there are any bites. However all he has done is foul the water.


    "According to Pipes and Fischer, Lenin was intolerant of opposition and often dismissed opinions that differed from his own outright"

    Sounds like someone else we know.
    2552) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1699529)
    Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dung Beetles are Awesome,

    Dung beetles are currently the only known animal to navigate and orient themselves using the Milky Way.
    They possess exceptional dung disposal capacity and one dung beetle can bury dung that is 250 times heavier than itself in one night.
    Those that eat dung do not need to eat or drink anything else, because the dung provides all the necessary nutrients.
    Dung beetles can roll up to 10 times their weight. Male Onthophagus taurus beetles can pull 1,141 times their own body weight:
    the equivalent of an average person pulling six double-decker buses full of people.
    ...from Wikipedia.

    ....but are they left or right handed?


    It's as if they were designed to remove the dung!
    Of course, first, the dung had to be designed as excreted,
    2553) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1699527)
    Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I only play a left-hander on S@H to annoy the O.P., Clyde, ID and Guy.
    Or is that left-ist?
    Some use their left hand and some their right.

    Those green handled leftie scissors are clumsy, so I just cut right-handed,
    2554) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1699435)
    Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I only play a left-hander on S@H to annoy the O.P., Clyde, ID and Guy.
    Or is that left-ist?
    2555) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1699409)
    Posted 8 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dere Once Was Is Are Dung Beetles, I Am Happy to be One. Roll Roll Around, Eat Shat all Day Night, Tasty Treats left by Others. Sheer Delight. I Finish Dis Scrumptous Meal, I Go Lookin' fO Another. 'Cause Being Full of Shat 'is' My LifeLong Druther

    A record of the screen names of the thread originator.
    2556) Message boards : Politics : Speaking of Politics. (Message 1699053)
    Posted 6 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More below.



    Oh, didn't you know I am not using this account anymore.

    Still, I guess she is quite pretty, although becoming of age.

    Blame wearing glasses perhaps.


    This is why you get so few responses.
    2557) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1698868)
    Posted 6 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank You, Defender of My Liberty. I Know Your Cards and Memberships are Protecting Me As I Vomit.
    I Always Feel Better after A GOoD VOm'it'.
    Yep

    Gee DungBeetle, it must really suck to be angry all the time, and have no-one but your cats and plants to take it out on.
    Thank the Lord for the Seti Forums.
    If Setizens are too harsh in their words you can always claim elder-abuse.


    Don't worry, if we work to take away his liberties, instead ... the false flag Clyde raises ... he'll be vomiting then as well. Can't win.
    2558) Message boards : Politics : Speaking of Politics. (Message 1698821)
    Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of Politics.

    Or perhaps I rather should say science instead.

    Everyone knows that we are supposed to be here for the sake of science.

    Who are supposed to be speaking for mankind if such a thing should ever be needed?

    The church perhaps, with all its assumed or supposed infallibles when it comes to dealing with the subject of science?

    Most people probably do appreciate the fact that important scientific discoveries for the most time are being validated by means of a general consensus and not some weird or crazy idea which for some reason may be popping up in the mind of a possibly mad scientist which might be around.

    Whether or not it is all about "Sleep and be Happy", or possibly "War of the Worlds" instead, being able to make a distinction of what may appear to be definitive facts may at times appear to be a hard thing to catch or grasp.

    The more relevant or clearly defined something may appear to be, the more the whole picture apparently becomes lost as a result and the same goes with the possible truth behind the wole story which might be there all the time.

    Definitely the world is full of lies most of the time, but behind many lies there also are truths to be found.

    The difficulty may sometimes be about making the possible separation between one given truth versus one other, because a lie is never supposed to reveal the truth behind a given story at all, including those hidden secrets which may always be around.

    Definitely Politics may be about the inner circles behind the White House conspiracies and likely other hidden stories as well.

    Also Politics may be a way of possibly discussing in which way certain elements being related to the subject of science are being carried out.

    For now the way of approaching certain subjects may appear to be valid, but if you happen to disagree with some elements of the discussion by means of given postings that are being made, you may perhaps be doing such a thing by voicing your opinion or concern by posting in Politics.

    Doing such a thing might in fact result in progress when it comes to both scientific knowledge when it comes to science as a whole as well as specific results which likely may be at hand.

    Definitely there is never a truth being found in an untold story.


    Progress? One of our vociferous posters claims "After The Guillotine, things get WORSE for The People. Just History and Human Nature."
    2559) Message boards : Politics : Speaking of Politics. (Message 1698820)
    Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nailed 'it'.

    You Da HuWoMan.

    To Those letting this Languish for 9 Hours-You.....

    Yep.


    ... you have jobs and are not part of the supposed 47%. I, Gollum, applaud you for working. I also applaud you for having jobs outside the S@H fora and I, Dull, applaud you.
    2560) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1698812)
    Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...Don't PISS OFF Da Left....

    My dear troll, please know that we lefties staunchly defend your right to stand up and vomit whatever hateful speech you should happen to spew forth from that orifice you call mouth. In fact, I have a current ACLU card to prove it.

    You're welcome.

    Just know that we reserve the right to challenge you when your hate exceeds the boundaries of good taste and we reserve the right to prosecute you when your hate exceeds the boundaries of civil liberty. I have a current Southern Poverty Law Center membership and a current Americans United For Separation of Church and State membership to prove that too.


    +1!
    "
    They can't even tell who is "left" vs. independent. So=called "anti-capitalist" cannot be entirely "right", either.
    2561) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1698763)
    Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to yet another thread, Gollum. ;) Or, since you change your screen name so often, would you prefer "Smeagol"? "Former possessor of the Precious"?
    2562) Message boards : Politics : Damned hard to be a Christian these days.......... (Message 1698715)
    Posted 5 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am 99.44% certain I am most responsible, on the S@H fora, for working to guarantee the freedom of the Religious (Christian, Mulsim, Buddhist, etc. ...) and Atheist to speak here. (May we call upon, as witnesses, Jeffrey, Chuck etc. ... ?)

    What we have in this thread is a threat from one person and an elitist misjudging name-caller also implying a threat.
    2563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric!!! (Message 1698467)
    Posted 4 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ditto!
    2564) Message boards : Politics : Just watched the Showtime series "The Tudors" (Message 1698277)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope, but sort of close. Presbyterian. (United)


    Then I think your perspective on similarities and differences varies.

    I'm not going to give the greatest analysis as it has been a long time since I studied it, plus I have no "dog in the fight" anymore, so to speak.

    The reasons for the COE = Anglican = Episcopalian in the US separating from Rome are, of course, not the same as those as Luther's or Calvin's. If I remembered more, I'd address whether they are completely different reasons, on the other hand.

    I was raised Lutheran.

    In the mid-70s to mid-80s, my church took part in many joint services with the nearest Episcopalian church. When it was at their church with their liturgy, there was much that was the same. Much that was word for word or only slight variations. Musically, close enough for little discomfort it seems.

    As for Presbyterians, there is a camp/"re-creation" center in JS' neck of the woods (mid way across the north side of the big lake with is not a great one) that is or was owned jointly by Lutherans and Presbyterians. I worked there two summers. Later, I dated a Presbyterian woman I had met there several years earlier. (It did not go well, but not because of religious beliefs, though, unknown to her, I was agnostic when we dated.)

    My terms may not be absolutely correct here, but call Catholicism "high church" as in highly ordered services and a great focus on that ... a ceremony. As Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists and Presbyterians were some of the first to separate from Rome, on average, most of it could be called middle church. I suspect, in many cases, the later the splinter (or when a splinter from a splinter), the further from Catholicism and each other it seems. The 4 above, and Catholicism? Probably most different of all is Calvinism. The rest and Catholicism? Though different, provably more zimilarities, in beliefs and practices than you suspected.
    2565) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1698272)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Homer Simpson for President:)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM9LeILM-pM


    Thanks for the smile.
    2566) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1698202)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would be different.

    Yes, 10,000 foot snow drifts in hell would be different.

    We need to boycott all his properties and businesses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization and all the places that give him money.

    'The Donald' is a Successful Business Man - Idiot.


    And there's the tolerance showing again.

    Re: Boycotts.

    Do you really believe Boycotts, by Christians, against....


    By ... Christians ... ?

    Can someone please translate?

    Where did Gary says he's Christian?

    When did Gary call, specifically Christians, to boycott against "...."?

    May we assume "...." = Donald? Or are we supposed to read more people/groups into the nebulous "...."?

    Sarge...

    I was calling 'The Donald' an IDIOT.

    Again, your 'Brain' is wrong.

    Who said Gary is a Christian?

    Again your 'Brain' is wrong.

    Sarge...

    Again, your Posts are a refreshing break from Intellectual Discussions.

    But are getting boring.


    Yes, CLYDE, you are so right. You are so smart. I am so stupid. You are so tolerant. I am so bigoted. I really appreciate how you consistently point out the real me to me, how your analysis of me is so much more insightful than anyone else's. That includes the analysis of me by your PMlandia friend, "blank guy".

    You know you am but what is not id? You are bored? Really? I thought you enjoyed trivializing others like you're on the kindergarten playground.
    2567) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1698198)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would be different.

    Yes, 10,000 foot snow drifts in hell would be different.

    We need to boycott all his properties and businesses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization and all the places that give him money.

    'The Donald' is a Successful Business Man - Idiot.


    And there's the tolerance showing again.

    Re: Boycotts.

    Do you really believe Boycotts, by Christians, against....


    By ... Christians ... ?

    Can someone please translate?

    Where did Gary says he's Christian?

    When did Gary call, specifically Christians, to boycott against "...."?

    May we assume "...." = Donald? Or are we supposed to read more people/groups into the nebulous "...."?

    Sarge...

    I was calling 'The Donald' an IDIOT.

    Again, your 'Brain' is wrong.

    Who said Gary is a Christian?

    Again your 'Brain' is wrong.

    Sarge...

    Again, your Posts are a refreshing break from Intellectual Discussions.

    But are getting boring.


    I challenge anyone other than you to read your post and deny it could EASILY be read that way. Clyde
    2568) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump for President? (Message 1698187)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would be different.

    Yes, 10,000 foot snow drifts in hell would be different.

    We need to boycott all his properties and businesses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization and all the places that give him money.

    'The Donald' is a Successful Business Man - Idiot.


    And there's the tolerance showing again.

    Re: Boycotts.

    Do you really believe Boycotts, by Christians, against....


    By ... Christians ... ?

    Can someone please translate?

    Where did Gary says he's Christian?

    When did Gary call, specifically Christians, to boycott against "...."?

    May we assume "...." = Donald? Or are we supposed to read more people/groups into the nebulous "...."?
    2569) Message boards : Politics : (Un)Justify Same Sex Marriage (Message 1698174)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back the guy with no name and a deleted posting history.


    I suspect that there was a major breach of the Seti Forum database when
    User ID: 7787259 decided to become a referee in this playground and
    edited all of his posts up to june 3, 2014. The posts weren't hidden, but
    rather changed. That's not nice.

    There was a moderator that was doing this. I tried to point it out to no avail. ;)

    The person concerned was a moderator and moderators can edit their own posts. However moderators cannot edit other peoples posts, only hide or move them.


    Can <> should, let alone doing that to scores of his own posts.
    This is now off-topic and I'm sure you'll next try to give us a thread to let off steam about it.
    Let me preempt that: we've said our peace, I believe. It was obvious well before his modship that could be done; i.e., mods have more than the hour to edit than we do. He's not the only one to have done it, though the scope is far more wide-ranging and it makes no sense to have done so; people can disagree, vociferously so. His erasures seem to have been related to "I want no evidence remaining that I ever spoke to these people."
    Bernie, your post provided no new information nor explanation of motive. We have said, in our own various ways, we believe an abuse of power occurred. About 5 hours passed until your post. I believe we have said our peace and no further discussion of it is necessary, most likely, as that person is no longer in a position to abuse the power.
    2570) Message boards : Politics : Just watched the Showtime series "The Tudors" (Message 1698169)
    Posted 3 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have been to them all, at least once. Part of our church's preparation for being a member was to attend at least one service at a church of each of the major faiths, including a visit to a synagogue. The Episcopalian service as I recall was very similar to the Catholic service except there was no latin.
    We were all impressed that the rabbi got to sip from a glass of wine during his service.


    Do I recall correctly you were raised Lutheran?
    2571) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Any truth in it? (Message 1697847)
    Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It could also be that the cooler, denser air is more conducive to the transmission of the signal from the tower to your location, so the received signal strength is higher.

    Water is a signal attenuator. Possible that some interfering signal is less when wet (attenuated), hence a better experience. Also possible that the wet roof acts as a ground plane giving a better experience. You could test for that with a garden hose. Finally don't forget that in the winter, without a storm, the air is much dryer than in the summer. Check the relative humidity.

    Now today in the digital world, the signal should either be there, or not at all. No snow anymore, but blockies from bad jpeg decompression.

    Back in the analog days, I noticed that when a cold weather front passed here in Los Angeles the VHF San Diego stations became available, in the winter, and in the summer they were usually there but not always watching quality.

    More than you wanted to know:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation

    http://www.dxfm.com/content/propagation.htm

    http://www.arrl.org/propagation-of-rf-signals


    70s, Dad watching snowy MASH from 60 miles away. Hard to look at. But the theme song haunts.
    2572) Message boards : Politics : Just watched the Showtime series "The Tudors" (Message 1697846)
    Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They changed actresses for the part of Jane Seymour from season two to season three which confused me at first. I also kept waiting for Henry VIII to get plump.

    Regarding the church it has always seemed to me that the primary difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England is the Pope. I have never thought of the COE as protestant like the Lutheran or Presbyterian churches.


    COE = Episcopalian in the US. Try going to a Lutheran service, then an Episcopalian (or vice versa). Then see if you say the same.
    2573) Message boards : Politics : (Un)Justify Same Sex Marriage (Message 1697839)
    Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back the guy with no name and a deleted posting history.


    I suspect that there was a major breach of the Seti Forum database when
    User ID: 7787259 decided to become a referee in this playground and
    edited all of his posts up to june 3, 2014. The posts weren't hidden, but
    rather changed. That's not nice.


    Noticed that about a year ago. Totally agree. INCRRDIBLY SCUMMY.
    2574) Message boards : Politics : (Un)Justify Same Sex Marriage (Message 1697835)
    Posted 2 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After all, I (along with Clyde) believe it's naive to think we are not going to fail as a nation. Look at history! All nations eventually fail.


    Oh, that's what Clyde's been saying?
    Thanks for sharing ... what I figured out by age 18.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSTct2FFamw
    2575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Pactrick Macnee dies (Message 1697153)
    Posted 1 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RIP


    And the voice of The Imperious Leader.
    Also, RIP ro CHris Squire, bassist of Yes.
    2576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday TimeLord04!!! (Message 1697151)
    Posted 1 Jul 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday TL.!!! :-)

    aka: Doc and Scott. :)




    Ditto!
    2577) Message boards : Politics : We can't even pray in our churches safely! (Message 1693697)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having grown up not too very far from Charleston I would agree that
    modern day Charleston is a pretty special place. Some of the friendliest
    people you will ever meet - even if they have never seen you before.

    Haven't been there in a while but I'm looking forward to another visit.
    Savannah and Charleston are my 2 favorite cities anywhere.........


    Charleston will handle this with calm dignity and do the right thing.

    The black guy who got shot by the police officer was in N Charleston and
    they handled that very well.....so it can be done and Charleston will lead
    by example.


    Having seen "some" of my posting probably gives you no clue where I am coming from. When we can be moderated here, and when others will put words and beliefs in your mouth and mind on a frequent basis ... .

    But, tell you what, you've made up your mind.
    So, rather than politely offer, I metaphorically YANK your foot out of your mouth.
    2578) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693695)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge I guess I'm missing your meaning with regards to the camper and the Giron recall. I didn't see anything significant in the photo.


    Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?

    The restrooms are for customers only!


    To my knowledge, they were not unwelcome by WalMart or other places they set up to have petitions signed.
    2579) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693694)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
    They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
    Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
    SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.

    Campers? Like gypsies? Sorry should be the Romani/roaming people


    No, "campers" as in the type of vehicle of which I showed a picture yesterday. My family used tents and campers for several summers for our vacations. (To "rough it" rather than stay in hotels.) We would stay in campgrounds both of well known management ("KOA") and less know ones. The trips were more than 40 miles. More like hundreds of miles from home. Not within a home political district.
    2580) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693673)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still don't see where your difficulty with it is.
    They drove CAMPERS within the district. CAMPERS.
    Now, you mention ordinary; ordinary people TEND to take CAMPERS on further trips than that. Not on in-town/in-district trips.
    SO, either, they are non-ordinary for their short distance use of campers or they weren't from the area making it infiltration and not grass-roots.
    2581) Message boards : Politics : We can't even pray in our churches safely! (Message 1693613)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Standard comments I see coming from someone in The Peoples Republic Of
    California .........


    At least *try* to maintain an air of objectivity to opinions that
    are different from yours......thats what liberals are "supposed" to
    do right ? Fair - inclusive - kind and all that jazz ?


    I know liberal sounds so similar to libertarian when you pronounce the syllables, but at least *try* to not label so quickly. May I help you extract your foot from your mouth?
    2582) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693612)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge I guess I'm missing your meaning with regards to the camper and the Giron recall. I didn't see anything significant in the photo.


    Why is it difficult to understand? If it was, as claimed, grassroots from that side, that would mean it was free of outsiders on that side. Is it normal for someone to travel 5 miles ... yes, 5 ... 10 at best ... to set up a location for signing petitions in a WalMart parking lot ... drive that 5 to 10 miles in a camper?
    2583) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1693379)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As with Superiority people. Nazi/KKK/Progressives types. The 'ending' if they get power, is the same.

    Doesn't matter if one group lies to itself, regarding their 'motivation'.

    However, the structure they build upon their 'Superior' Foundation is different.

    Progressives, The Left and Marxists, promote their agenda, this way:

    #1 - We will Educate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

    #2 - We will Regulate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

    #3 - We will Criminalize 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

    #4 - We will Eliminate them.

    The KKK, The Right and The Nazi's, dispense with #1 and 2, and move immediately to #3.

    Again you are calling me a would be murderer. According to you the only reason I haven't killed millions of people yet is because I don't have that type of power. Your argument is kinda like the argument some Christian fundamentalist make, who claim that without God people would just rape and murder each other all day long. People who think that they only reason they don't do that is the fear for divine retribution. I've always found that such arguments say more about the people that are making it than the people they are trying to use it against.

    Also, it feels like an argument about extremism. Yeah, movements on the left and right have killed millions of people. But that was because they were extremists versions of left wing or right wing ideology, not because they were left wing or right wing ideologies. Everything that has turned to extremism is dangerous, doesn't matter what it is. But its a mistake to claim that just because something has the potential to evolve into extremism, it makes everyone who believes or follows that thing is therefor automatically an extremists who is just moments away from setting up death camps.

    Мишель...

    I do acknowledge your inability to Think out of your Intellectually Cloistered Universe. One day, you may want to expand your understandings of certain 'Movements'.

    Will you? Possibly not.

    And there we go again, dismissing the opponent as 'inferior' because they don't think like you. Are you sure you are not secretly a right wing bigot yourself? Because according to you, thinking of others as inferior is the foundation of their thinking.


    Huh? The un-named poster isn't a left-wing extremist?!?
    2584) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693374)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The guy that started the recall



    thought he'd been so successful that he'd seek office a year later. He failed to win the election.

    The guy he helped to bring in to replace Giron



    had an admission on his own website that while an infant he was brought to the USA as illegal immigrant. (Somehow, his family elf-deporting, then "coming back and doing it 'right'" is supposed to make it all ok.)

    His 5 or 6 point "platform" was so short, it should've been insult to all voters.

    He was replaced in about a year by

    2585) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693365)
    Posted 19 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. Grass roots, out of a garage. That explains the campers, eh?

    Pueblo Freedom and Rights...http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2013/06/giron-recall-effort-delivers-petitions-sets-stage-for-second-gun-battle/


    The Colorado Observer is a well-known ideological web version of a rag. It is propaganda. Here is visual proof of the truth I spoke. (Zoom your page momentarily to see it better.)

    2586) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1693176)
    Posted 18 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Giron was recalled, but Rivera did not make it mich more than 13 months, being beaten by Garcia. While Morse was also recalled, his replacement was of the same party.


    The beautiful part about the Giron recall was that it was a true grass roots movement. Very little funding and done out of a garage. That's TRUE democracy at work. I worked for the Hudak recall effort which was rendered moot by her 'abdication' to avoid embarrassment.


    LOL. Grass roots, out of a garage. That explains the campers, eh?
    2587) Message boards : Politics : What is Black Privilege? (Message 1693170)
    Posted 18 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cliff, I fear the "privilege" may be that few are willing to post in the thread, either to show agreement or dissent.
    2588) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1692506)
    Posted 17 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any member of Congress has the ability to sponsor a bill to change or enact any law they feel needs changing or enacting. There are less than 4 million members of the NRA, so it's not numbers that make up whatever power you see. What does make up that power is the many other millions of citizens who see the truth in what they say and who exercise their rights under the Constitution including the 2nd Amendment.

    Every time gun control bills are defeated the Bloombergs of the left call it a subversion by the NRA. As long as that continues, the NRA is doing it's job. I don't know if you are aware that one of the purposes for the formation of the NRA in the 1870's was to champion the right of Blacks to own and possess firearms after the Civil War for their protection.

    I am proud to be a member of the NRA and I will continue to support their efforts to defend the 2nd Amendment as well as the 1st. The only thing a despot fears worse than the 2nd Amendment is the 1st.


    Gironwas recalled, but Rivera did not make it mich more than 13 months, being beaten by Garcia. While Morse was also recalled, his replacement was of the same party.
    2589) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1691746)
    Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    The difference I see in the Black culture (and most other cultures)and Asian culture in the US is respect. Respect for each other, respect for authority, respect for family, and respect for tradition. Americas today say if it's old, throw it away and get something new. We no longer value the worth of unity but instead worship the God of diversity as an end instead of as a component of a greater inclusive society.

    Do you think that respect or lack of it, might have something to do with the legacy of slavery?
    The Asian people were not kept as property and their history and culture destroyed, their families split up and generations of women raped. I suspect that will leave a strong mark on people.

    You can't compare them as they did not have the same experience. As far as I am aware the Jim Crow laws did not apply to Asians.

    EDIT: I just want to clarify that I am also talking about the legacy of slavery on white people and how it formed stereotypes about black people.

    May have different oppression. But...

    This 'Blame Game' is self destructive.

    Black can do it. They, as others, will do it, and don't other peoples help.

    Only Racists believe Blacks are incapable.


    But I said teaching for over 20 years has shown me what they are capable of. Yet, in your bizarro definition world, I am an ideologue. So sad.
    2590) Message boards : Politics : Dallas PD HQ Attacked! (Message 1691448)
    Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In Europe it's more easy to buy an illegal weapon than a legal one.
    If you want a Kalashnikov go to Tallin Estonia.
    If you want a hand gun go to the Balcan States.

    Two of the finest handguns I own and regularly shoot were made in Croatia. A Springfield Armory XDm 9mm competition target pistol and a Springfield Armory XDs .45 ACP as my concealed carry weapon.

    Yes I'm licensed, went through an FBI background check and carry daily, as do 12,000 other citizens in my county of Colorado alone. In my philosophy there are 3 legal reasons for owning a firearm. a) For sport/target shooting. b) For hunting/survival. c) For personal protection. Having a firearm for any other reason should be considered illegal possession.

    Robert Heinlein once wrote "An Armed society is a polite society".

    ":D)


    Why do you think I'm growing my hair to look like a better-looking Ted Nugent? ;)
    2591) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1691447)
    Posted 15 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Micheal do you know what being a hermaphrodite is , i suggest you study it .

    You may then understand what gender is and why people opt for the full sex change . You will also learn why there are gay people and at what time in a fetus life that happens .

    You might be at uni but you still have much to learn about things

    Glenn,
    Gender and sex are actually two different things.

    For example, a hemaphrodite might have sexual organs from both sex, but identify with one gender more than another.

    A person might be of the male sex, but feel their gender is female.


    Yep exactly Ess . Spose i should have read the rest of his post in stead of stopping harf way through reading it which sounded like he didn't understand what gender is .

    I understand now . I didn't think using that woman thou was a good example seeing as she doesn't know what she is or is a con artist .

    so sorry Micheal i should have read the whole posts i'll shut up now and crawl back down my hole .


    Dang it, Glenn, why are you such an ideologue? (Sarcasm and not meant at your expense.)
    2592) Message boards : Politics : Thermite. (Message 1690175)
    Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
    I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

    Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
    There are already lot of those metals in a building.
    Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

    Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

    Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

    Chemical traces are physical evidences.


    And here I was starting to doubt myself. I was worried chemical traces might be supernatural!

    Ok have your fun at my expense. What I should have stated and you both well know it Was.
    Your eyes can tell the differance in steel that has been cut, burned or sheared. But your nose might not be able to detect what explosive, acid, And or whatever was used. But a chemical test should.


    I was indeed being silly, but I figured you'd handle it ok.
    2593) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689993)
    Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's lovely for children when "society" gets involved...

    Social experiment gone wrong

    ...over 50 years later...

    "an internal investigation showed that some of the documents detailing the organisation's involvement have disappeared - Save the Children admits they could have been deliberately destroyed."

    ...nothing new there then.

    This probably belongs in the racist thread, it is similar to the residential schools in Canada that have been mentioned there. Although not as bad, the intent was the same.

    Or the similar schools in the USA.


    A Look Inside Creepy Christian Textbooks. Yay, vouchers!
    2594) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1689958)
    Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know you are Thor, for this thread tells me so.
    And they shall know we are Thorians, by our thunder ... by our thunder.

    Bagpipes AC/DC "Thunderstruck" with flames Bad Piper


    Catch some metal thunder at View My Video. Particularly at 14:23, but catch the whole song starting at 9:47.
    2595) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1689940)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then why don't you understand Thor?

    Evidence for Thor is spurious! And even if He existed/exists, he surely didn't cause The Big Bang. :)
    2596) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1689932)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has fallen on my shoulders to remind all that tomorrow is that very special day. Prepare well for Thor's day.
    Hail Thor


    We shall only heed the Wednesday (Odin's Day) calls to prepare if they come from Thor's Chosen One, Gary Charpentier!

    Sarge as an academic you should read "The long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul" by Douglas Adams then you might better understand Thor.
    Hail Thor and I will prepare for Thor's day late this afternoon.


    I read that and Dirk Gently, IIRC and both IIRC while in high school. (Before the route was decided.) I hated them. I would much rather re-read any of the Hitchhiker's, except sometimes maybe not read "Mostly Harmless".
    2597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Facebook says today is Julie's birthday (Message 1689885)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HB!


    Julie knows better than to have a Facebook account. Much too smart for that.
    2598) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689881)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them.
    I'm not justifying or trying to justify, that is up to the court. I'm saying there was a lot going on, both actually and in the mind of the police officer. Please remember, there has been a kill order put out on all law enforcement in the USA.

    USA 2015 Year to date police fatalities by cause.

    Line of Duty Deaths: Total 54 9/11 related illness: 2; Accidental: 1;Assault: 1;Automobile accident: 15;Gunfire: 14;Gunfire (Accidental): 2;Heart attack: 11;Motorcycle accident: 1;Struck by vehicle: 3;Vehicle pursuit: 2;Vehicular assault: 2

    Of the 14 killed by Gunfire, six were outright assassinations. This fact is in the back of the mind of every police officer every minute they are awake. No it does not justify the actions of a few out of many thousands who protect us daily, but it speaks to a possible state of mind during stressful situations. This makes it all the more important for each citizen to comply with police when ordered to do so. To not comply is a criminal act. There are enough amateur videographers that if abuse is committed, it will be recorded and judged.

    We do not have to accept our peers over-generalizing and making it sound like we are against all police officers.
    I do not think any sane individual is against all police officers, but the rhetoric spouted by the racial agitators would make it appear they want it that way if possible.

    What has this got to do with children?


    As far as I can see, absolutely nothing.
    But, we're just unthinking ideologues. White and nerdy.
    2599) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689880)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They deserve more respect than they are given by most.

    They need to give the people they encounter in their job more respect.

    It is a two way street.


    +1
    2600) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1689879)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Odin is the great brooder amongst the Æsir ("yggjungr ása")
    We like Thor because he is not as clever as Odin.
    Almost human:)
    Only 10 days to Midsummer...
    Frigga love that day.

    Why yes, a day of celebration, feasts and orgies.


    Woo hoo!
    2601) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689867)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them.
    I'm not justifying or trying to justify, that is up to the court. I'm saying there was a lot going on, both actually and in the mind of the police officer. Please remember, there has been a kill order put out on all law enforcement in the USA.


    By ISIS, no? If so, not the same as "racial agitators", no?
    2602) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1689865)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has fallen on my shoulders to remind all that tomorrow is that very special day. Prepare well for Thor's day.
    Hail Thor


    We shall only heed the Wednesday (Odin's Day) calls to prepare if they come from Thor's Chosen One, Gary Charpentier!
    2603) Message boards : Politics : Thermite. (Message 1689823)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
    I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

    Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
    There are already lot of those metals in a building.
    Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

    Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

    Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

    Chemical traces are physical evidences.


    And here I was starting to doubt myself. I was worried chemical traces might be supernatural!
    2604) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689821)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    you didn't know that those teens were all there on the invitation of someone and had been granted access to be there.
    ...and you didn't know they were not allowed there under the homeowner association rules. So we are both making statements without complete knowledge which is the point I've already made.


    Were the rules of the homeowner association clearly posted by the pool so that the teens would know those rules trumped the invitation?

    They deserve more respect than they are given by most.


    This country was formed by dissent.
    We have the right to point out the errors of the few.
    We do not have to accept our peers over-generalizing and making it sound like we are against all police officers.

    Many people of many occupations deserve far more respect than given by most.
    2605) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689777)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, there exist 14-15 minutes long versions.

    Michel, please post a link and state the time that proves that (1) they were invited and (2) a white woman started the fight. I have heard the first reported, but that still doesn't make it true.

    (Sorry I couldn't be more ideological for my hataz!)
    2606) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689756)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please, do edumucate us some more.
    2607) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1689755)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What a waste of time this thread is. Ive read it twice, Trying to see the humour or the irony.
    The only thing that makes sense is the Dilbert cartoon. And I can see that it applies to both sides in here.

    Dont get me wrong, I have posted some stupid things in my life, And Im sure I will in the future. But this is turning into a, I can outlast you thread.
    You win I cant read anymore of this.


    Then you have truly missed the irony.
    2608) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689659)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde says:
    Today is the Day Marty McFly Went to the Future!



    Sarge says:
    Watch about 5 minutes of the movie.



    Clyde cries:
    You lying ideologue!!!


    PMLandia watches movie, finds Sarge is the one that is right.

    Please try a non-strawman. Nothing is lost otherwise.
    2609) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689629)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Мишель, we have had these differences before. You cannot allow yourself to consider another viewpoint.

    You mean that white lady that started yelling racist slurs at the teens there who where there on invitation and had every legal right to be there?


    Why didn't the offended parties call the police on her?


    If Michel has pointed to where that is in the video, please do so again. In the meantime, I wonder (true withholding of judgment), were the police already there?

    I'm sure your sentiment is shared by the 47 murder victims in Baltimore in the last 30 days and their families(sarcasm). No cops=no crime(more sarcasm). Oh and 45 of those murdered were black. Where's Al Sharpton? Why is there no outcry for justice for them? [edit source cited] http://data.baltimoresun.com/bing-maps/homicides/index.php?range=30&district=all&zipcode=all&age=all&gender=all&race=all&cause=all&article=all&show_results=Show+results

    Because they are Hypocrites. Because they cannot profit from black deaths that do not have a racial component. Black on Black deaths don't matter to Al or Barrack or Erick Holder or Rom Emannuel or DeBlasio. Because they cannot gain publicity or financially from those cases. That dirty little fact is ignored.


    You are right. You are absolutely right. They never ever to speak out about Black crime. Never. I applaud your ability to prove a negative and so effectively.
    2610) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689619)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't obvious that there are two police officers on the scene?


    2 police officers controlling ...


    You need to watch again. Two other police officers ran up within 2 to 3 seconds to de-escalate Officer #1. Hence, officer count >= 3.
    2611) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689617)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Black children are not even safe from police violence at a pool party


    Everyone needs to watch CAREFULLY the video ...


    You need to watch again. Just microseconds before, 2 black females rushed up from the other side.
    2612) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689611)
    Posted 10 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He deserves no response. HE is the ideologue.
    2613) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689457)
    Posted 9 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My, my my. For someone who claims to be center, you seem to be channeling Rusty Lintball here.

    Care to explain what that means? Google was no help.


    Rush.Limbaugh.
    2614) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The Secret Air Force Space Drone Heads Back Into Orbit (Message 1689377)
    Posted 9 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not 30?


    Because the 30 never really had that many in one place. Ice that had accreted from various comets pumped up the numbers, since Ice occupies a greater volume than does water. (Or ... does it? Dah, dah, DAH!)
    2615) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689376)
    Posted 9 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The slight problem I have with these forums is when someone "quotes" another poster, the original posters ID is lost, not a problem when it is only a couple of posts apart.

    However when a post is re-quoted multiple times with additions and commissions each time the original posters' ID can be harder to see, and sometimes the original meaning gets totally lost.

    Especially when as in this case the first quote misunderstood the original post.

    You could try clicking the "in response to Message 1706487" link

    Yes I tried that but unfortunately in this case as there are "in post" quotes added it does not lead you back to the original post.

    There is the search feature .....


    I do believe filter trumps search.
    It still doesn't explain the gluons fused to two different discussions of Muslims under 18.
    2616) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1689246)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Big (butts) Brains laying about, dats No (never get) Lie(d). Wat Iz noZ Fill dA Sky (toilet). Leave It All 2 Me (Myself and I), I Gots dA Facts (The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here!); Evidence; Data (21.341 hours at Warp 6)); All Dat Kraps (bought my crap at 7/11 gonna go ta Vegas and play 7/11). No Need ta Learn (when your weed u can burn), Cause I noZ All (yes, the schnozz is a big bigger than the norm). Letz Me Leads U (Cuz ur da Pied Piper?); feeds U (Feed me, Seymour!); Haz A Ball!. I tell ya wats ta say, feel, Do. (Never get) LaZ(d) About! Gunna (Tom or Ted?) CruZZZ
    2617) Message boards : Politics : Wringing out the Illogic (Message 1689228)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I understood it perfectly. Did that for over 2 decades with my late mother. She often thought that I had issues with siblings when in fact, neither liking or disliking them, could not fathom their reasoning in their actions.

    Time won out & on her deathbed (Thank god I was not there at the time, or they would've hated me more), told them with her last breaths that she wished she had all boys rather than the 6 girls she did have, as they brought nothing but trouble & shame to the family.

    Still did not apologise though for interfering with my relationships. Says a lot for the female species I suppose.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebptEpIQfuU
    2618) Message boards : Politics : I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. #2 (Message 1689187)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HOWEVER, what makes decent police officers continue doing their job when incidents such as this occur?

    Police are, and have to be, practical.

    It is a practical occupation. Where much bad, by everyone, is experienced and witnessed. Police therefore, don't expect good, only not too bad. It is the nature of that occupation.

    Unlike 'Brain Dead' accusations: Most try to do their best.

    Except for the ones who think they are Judge, QC's & jury. Actually slapped one down on Friday afternoon & there was no comeback on me. Details in the Rape thread after the case is over :-)

    Of course you are correct.

    Why would anyone believe my Post above, or previous Posting, believe differently?


    You sure are busy this morning. Must be easy to make short responses to every current thread.
    2619) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1689184)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Right doesn't disguise their Racism against Blacks, and other minorities, as The Left does.

    The Left Wing belief in the Evil 19th Century Theory of 'White Man's Burden' is alive and well in their hearts.

    Of course they will yell, rant, and scream RACISM against those who believe Blacks, and other minorities, can do it, as everyone else did.

    Their Racism. Their problem.


    Silly, unthinking, "I'm not a rightist" typical rant.
    Those that work with them on a daily basis see what they can do and feel no need to carry any burdens.
    2620) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1689180)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are all still talking among yourselves. Believing you are the greatest, best, smartest, etc.

    Dismissing others is typical.

    You really are the living embodiment of irony, aren't you?


    Hate the sin-naming, not the sin-namer. ;)
    2621) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1689172)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't mean for you to really post your solutions. These would be facts, as you are always right and that would be boring.
    2622) Message boards : Politics : Wringing out the Illogic (Message 1689170)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nurse!

    He's out of bed again!


    C'mon, Simon, surely you understand the point? If not, may you be touched by His noodly appendage.
    2623) Message boards : Politics : Wringing out the Illogic (Message 1689167)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't hate the sin-namer, I hate the sin-naming. See what I just did there? Perfect out. I'm not a hater.

    Now, I am not for bullying. I am not a bully. But, when I try to let the sin-namer know that if they repent of their sin-naming, they can rest in peace six feet underground for eternity, I am just doing because it's the truth and I love them.

    Now, you must understand, you have to tolerate this, because I am speaking the truth and it's my intolerance of the act not the actor or actress.
    2624) Message boards : Politics : What sort of teacher is that?????? (Message 1689066)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Referring to what exactly?


    My apologies for the confuaion, Sirius.
    I think the thread can be locked now.
    2625) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689065)
    Posted 8 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An apostate, yes, Muslim no.

    What is that?

    A Muslim would have no part of attacking a solicitor of alms.


    Ummm ... who was soliciting alms? When? Where?
    How is being struck by a car equivalent to an attack?

    What are you on about?
    I have seen a muslim kid kicking a football right in the face in a romani begger.
    He thought it was OK!!!


    (I do not know who said anything about a football being kicked into the face of someone or what the context was.)

    Gary, your response was to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199&postid=1688959

    Well, I'd better go clean up the house. My son's best friend is a muslim and his mum is freaking out more than I did about my son's accident. She wants to come over and make sure he is ok.


    Translation: Es' son was recently hit by a car. His best friend is a Muslim. The friends' mother is worried about Es' son because of the accident. It looks like Es will let the friend's mother come over to see her son so she can she he is ok.


    More specifically, it was a response to Sirius, who responded to Es.
    I now see the football kicked into a face, was told by Janne.
    The link I see is Muslim kids being discussed, but I do not see further connections. ?
    2626) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689030)
    Posted 7 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An apostate, yes, Muslim no.

    What is that?

    A Muslim would have no part of attacking a solicitor of alms.


    Ummm ... who was soliciting alms? When? Where?
    How is being struck by a car equivalent to an attack?

    What are you on about?
    I have seen a muslim kid kicking a football right in the face in a romani begger.
    He thought it was OK!!!


    (I do not know who said anything about a football being kicked into the face of someone or what the context was.)

    Gary, your response was to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199&postid=1688959

    Well, I'd better go clean up the house. My son's best friend is a muslim and his mum is freaking out more than I did about my son's accident. She wants to come over and make sure he is ok.


    Translation: Es' son was recently hit by a car. His best friend is a Muslim. The friends' mother is worried about Es' son because of the accident. It looks like Es will let the friend's mother come over to see her son so she can she he is ok.
    2627) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1689014)
    Posted 7 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An apostate, yes, Muslim no.

    What is that?

    A Muslim would have no part of attacking a solicitor of alms.


    Ummm ... who was soliciting alms? When? Where?
    How is being struck by a car equivalent to an attack?
    2628) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1688998)
    Posted 7 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An apostate, yes, Muslim no.

    What is that?
    It's like saying there is american apostates...

    Cenk Ungur would be one.
    2629) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1688997)
    Posted 7 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Since ... left, right, center and all approaches have failed or made matters worse [with no supporting evidence] ... they may be safely ... dismissed."

    So, un-named poster, what are YOUR 'Solutions', hmmm?
    2630) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1688784)
    Posted 7 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gooba you check'y boy you , i just read you tag .

    Hey if Brainiac wasn't posting you would have nothing to laugh about mate

    You gotts to admit mate i do put a smile on your face don't i ???????


    Do you think 'He' likes da Applez? I knoez 'He' dozz.
    2631) Message boards : Politics : What sort of teacher is that?????? (Message 1688621)
    Posted 6 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sounds to me like a person who was not a teacher yet, since it was 35 years ago or so. It also sounds to me, just possibly, like someone saying "Learn to stand up for yourself."
    2632) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1688427)
    Posted 6 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

    Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


    WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

    WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

    I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

    Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

    Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

    I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".


    I'm sorry, Es, but we do hear a term like that here. Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?

    Somehow I think Mara Salvatrucha are thugs and in need of capital punishment. And Sarge, I think she lives too far Norte to understand.


    I don't know who Mara is off the top of my head.
    While you may be right about Es being too far north (and, previously, across the pond), I do believe Es ... and Michel ... can be helped to see a big picture and they can help us. Often, we are talking past each other.

    ES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PneRfRYysPA. In this video, Latin Kings are referred to as thugs. (Warning to Es and all, profanity in the video.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTXq-Eqsd6w (I have not watched all of this fuller length video.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKv03FnBoc

    Gary: do either of the following 2 videos at all have to do with the culture you are talking about?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGqlrVmVULc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqpC_nrzEs

    Note to all: my posting of these videos should in no way be construed as condoning either the views of those in the videos nor those against them. I post them for Es, Michel and others to get a better idea of the complex situation here in the USA.
    2633) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1688307)
    Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

    Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


    WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

    WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

    I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

    Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

    Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

    I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".


    I'm sorry, Es, but we do hear a term like that here. Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?
    2634) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1688305)
    Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde: No, no...there's no problem here. I was just hoping you might give me some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the Southern colonies. My contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War, the economic modalities, especially in the southern colonies, could most aptly be characterized as agrarian, pre-capitalist --

    Michel: Let me tell you something, alright --

    Sarge: Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished readin' some Marxian historian -- Pete Garrison probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to James Lemon, and then you're gonna be talkin' about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year -- you're gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin' about, you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

    Clyde: Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social --

    Sarge: Wood drastically -- Wood 'drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.' You got that from Vickers, 'Work in Essex County,' page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you...is that your thing? You come into a bar. You read some obscure passage and then pretend...you pawn it off as your own idea just to impress some girls and embarrass my friend? See the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One: don't do that. And two: You dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a f----n' education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library.

    Clyde? "Do you like apples?"


    Love Good Will Hunting!


    Ditto.

    The problem with the un-named poster is, he thinks I am the Michael Bolton clone. Thus, he believes almost all of us here are are cloistered insiders. That probably includes you. He is unaware of:

    1) I am actually a mixture of the Good Will Hunting character (and not just for the subject the prof tried to get him into) and that first year grad student.
    2) Of the ways in which we so-called insiders used to interact with each other.

    He does not realize how his assumptions lead him to baseless conclusions, increasingly difficult to comprehend posts and annoying ways of communicating with us, yet is suprised/upset/annoyed when any of us point it out and that we wish to ignore him.
    2635) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687977)
    Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "He's got big brains and she's got big brains, but Gooba's got the biggest ... brains ... of them all!"
    2636) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1687976)
    Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Gooba you cheeky boy you"!
    2637) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687973)
    Posted 5 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde: No, no...there's no problem here. I was just hoping you might give me some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the Southern colonies. My contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War, the economic modalities, especially in the southern colonies, could most aptly be characterized as agrarian, pre-capitalist --

    Michel: Let me tell you something, alright --

    Sarge: Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished readin' some Marxian historian -- Pete Garrison probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to James Lemon, and then you're gonna be talkin' about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year -- you're gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin' about, you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

    Clyde: Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social --

    Sarge: Wood drastically -- Wood 'drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.' You got that from Vickers, 'Work in Essex County,' page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you...is that your thing? You come into a bar. You read some obscure passage and then pretend...you pawn it off as your own idea just to impress some girls and embarrass my friend? See the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One: don't do that. And two: You dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a f----n' education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library.

    Clyde? "Do you like apples?"
    2638) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1687793)
    Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

    Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


    WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

    WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]
    2639) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1687791)
    Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you telling her children to 'Drop Dead', awaiting an improvement to Public Schools. Then it will be to late to help her children.

    The needs of the many outweigh, the needs of the few, or the one.

    Except in a system that gives choice, you only serve the wants of the few. Choice costs money and the only ones that can afford choice are the people with a large and stable enough income. And those people are getting increasingly rare.

    Furthermore, this promotes the division of society. If rich people can essentially live their life avoiding all the unpleasant bits caused by poverty, they will be less likely to give a damn or understand that there even is a problem. I mean, what does poverty mean to someone who grows up in a gated community, going to one of the better schools and only interacting with people who have a similar socio-economic background? Its just something they read or hear about on the news. But it will remain an entirely abstract problem in their heads for most of their life.


    Your more recent quote is of Gary, but I don't think that's who you're responding to. That or you're not seeing his point on this topic.
    2640) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687789)
    Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Therefore, as they always do: They 'Ignore' (AKA attempt to censor) others. As if anyone, outside of their 'Intellectual Monastery' would care.

    This small group cares. No one else does.

    And there you go again, complaining about getting censored. Except no one censors you here. At worst, they ignore you because you are the intellectual equivalent of a wet blanket. Otherwise, they criticize you for saying dumb, offensive, racist or just ignorant nonsense.

    Of course, having the intellectual capacity of a wet blanket, you cannot respond to any actual criticism, so you repeat the same drivel ad nauseam, complaining that you are getting censored by either right wing or left wing intellectuals and how they all follow some kind of agenda. Its so boring. You are so boring. You aren't even trying anymore to actually make a point, to actually engage with other people on the content of their argument. All you try to do is some horrible attempt at character assassination by pretending everyone who you disagree with is part of some political side.

    Of course, this will just go right over your head and you will respond in an entirely predictable manner.

    Thank you for your Intelligent reply.

    RE: Your use of the word 'Intellectuals'. Let me give the following analogy.

    You are living in the European Middle Ages. The Brightest, Most Intellectual, and Educated people have gathered inside a Monastery, on top of a mountain. They shut themselves from the World for 20 years. They do acknowledge other Thinking and Cultures. But ignore and deman them. Because they are the Best...

    One day, you approach the Monastery, asking for food. They allow you to enter (first outsider in 20 years), and you sit down at the dinner table, listening to their their conversation.

    Listening to their 20 years of Cloistered Intellectual Conversation: You begin to realize, they have entered a Fantasy World, as all cloistered persons do.

    As your attacking, name calling Post above, and others on your 'World' believe: I am this 'Outsider', who needs to be 'dismissed'. No different from the Monastery, I noted.

    Do you understand? No.

    Will you understand? No.

    I understand that's a load of simplistic bollox.


    The un-named poster just doesn't get it. When one's "cloister" involves less than 5000 within a small city of 106000, where the remaining 101000 are willing to tell you, "I don't like you" simply because they haven't known you all their lives ... who will tell you "I will put a knife in you if you mess with so and so" (and you know some of these people have spent time in jail), when if fact you and so-and-so are actually interacting just fine and becoming friends ... . Then maybe the so-called outsider, pointing fingers at the s0-called cloister, is in fact the insider of a cloister and is CLUELESS to the totality of the rest of our day-to-day experiences. The un-named so called dismissed so-called outsider WILL remain ignored until it is clear the wider spectrum is understood.
    2641) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687541)
    Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've watched both The Prisoner and TOS... All as TV repeats.

    Does that make me the youngest of the lot of yer?!


    And to get back on topic:


    Facts are fascinating.

    Who needs other's tedious tawdry dreams and make-believe when we have an infinity of the real world around us yet to explore?!


    Forever onwards with the quest to forever roll back the boundary of ignorance!

    Keep searching
    Martin


    +1
    2642) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687532)
    Posted 4 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The 1960s show with Patrick McGoohan.


    umm i may have seen it as repeat i was a bit to young back then 4 yrs old , 1967-1968 The Prisoner (TV Series)

    I know the actor he's in a few things .


    You're older than her.
    I was barely alive for Star Trek TOS (maybe one season), yet I saw some as a kid when we only received 4 TV stations and even BetaMax was not on the market yet.
    2643) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687497)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But....



    I....



    Wha...








    Meh.


    Exactly. And I think my new screen name shall be: AronRa..
    2644) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687465)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, apparently, someone thinks all of us work in academia or something similar and all have graduate degrees? So wrong. Even if the person does not believe it, he or she acts like it is believed.

    Still a newbie and it's been, what, 2 years?

    Ancient S@H history reveals how the inside was not the inside in 2006 and so on.
    There was an inside then.
    There is not now.
    We just want to be able to make sense and if someone is a disruption, they eventually get ignored. (Do you understand? No? Too bad!) DEAL WITH IT!!!

    (P.S.-to the unnamed person worried about the hidden agenda, I will bet I post at a slower rate than you since your arrival, but that I getting a higher rate of moderation notices, including notices from my friends that are mods. SO, who is persecuted, if true. hmmm? Oh, if only you'd seen the ancient S@H west.)
    2645) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687462)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzz. Snore.
    You like facts. I don't.
    Such a bore.
    Come at me with an axe. I know you won't.
    All you Brainiacs.
    I'm right. You're not.
    You got a cool axe?
    All light I am, you are nought.

    That's the message. Not the messenger.
    And dem's da facts.


    So distressing, not seeing the multiple usage of axe. (Jimi H. played a mean axe.)
    2646) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1687461)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people

    I don't understand this from the graph.
    "About half of all the people killed by police are White and half are Minorities".
    Doesn't that mean that all Minorities in the US are not White?
    Doesn't make sense to me.
    Please explain to me what a Minority is in the US.
    And Unknown...


    Less than 50% of the population is what it (should) mean(s).
    2647) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1687457)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here are some of the more common barriers to learning that I have come across in my years of teaching. Some are related to poverty and some are across the board:

    • Poor nutrition/hunger (result: cannot focus in class/ health issues/fainting etc)
    • Poor housing/homelessness/overcrowding (result: tired/health issues/ no where to study)
    • Violence in the home/outside the home (results:behavioural problems/not able to focus in class)
    • Drug/alcohol abuse(results: not able to focus in class/behaviour problems)
    • Family drug alcohol abuse (results: unstable home/ sometimes actual physical disabilities caused by parents drug/alcohol use while pregnant)
    • Parents in prison (results: behaviour problems relating to anger, abandonment, poverty, lack of hope for future)
    • Gangs (result: students subjected to violence or constantly in trouble with police)
    • Poor clothing (result: students cannot afford warm clothes in winter or proper shoes so cannot be comfortable in class and focus)
    • Sexual abuse (result: students act out in class or disengage completely)
    • Physical or mental disabilities (problems range widely)
    • English as a second language (result: Cannot follow lessons properly)
    • Children in care (Result: sometimes moved from home to home, sometimes not emotionally attached to carer despite having excellent foster parents, trust issues with figures of authority, abandonment issues )


    These are just some of the issues I've had to deal with on a regular basis before I can even begin to teach them.
    So do let me know how vouchers and better teachers are going to fix these actual barriers to school success.


    I'm sure you have missed a few.

    Before I go any farther, my fraternal lodge at the state level, operates http://www.rcskids.org/services/ I support this program. Let me tell a little story. Our campus, which started as an orphanage, does still have children where the system can't find foster parents. On a recent field trip for those kids down to the beach, one of the adults found out it was the 16th birthday of one of the kids. He snuck off and bought a birthday cake for him. When the kid got the cake he had a total meltdown. Crying like a baby. You see, this was the first birthday cake anyone had even given him and he is 16! Now you tell me how vouchers are going to fix this!

    Oh, for you teacher types, I believe we do have an opening if you are up to a huge challenge.


    I agree, it is a huge challenge.
    While working on my Master's degree, I "stumbled" into a part-time position teaching at a community college (I did not go on for further graduate study immediately after that). My first full-time teaching job (while continuing part-time nights or weekend classes) was at a private school for emotionally disturbed teens.
    I left after 1.5 years. I watched a continuous string of faculty and staff leave before me and for a little while a colleague would e-mail me about who else left not long after I did.
    Unfortunately, I believe the bigger problem was inconsistency on the part of administration, making it difficult for us to work with the students in a consistent way (despite their constant claims that ALL of the students there were there due to inconsistencies in parenting).

    Yes, government administration, with the election of extreme right or left wing idiots with an agenda, other than education, is one of the biggest problems. Citizens United is not going to help.

    As to Es's list, it applies in Beverly Hills as much as an inner city slum. Some people should not be given a permit to breed. Oh, wait, there is no test or requirement for that is there? But society, the taxpayer, has to foot the bill when the predictable worst happens. Sigh. Do you think society should attempt to educate everyone or should we pick a privileged class -- call them voucher kids -- and only educate them? We can make it hard to apply and put all kinds of arbitrary barriers up just to be sure the voucher kids are from the right kind of people. After all the non-voucher kids will be just fine and not have to apply for welfare with their substandard education. It will be less expensive by far ....

    Thanks, Sarge. I know you understand.


    The admin I am referring to was the small admin group of the school, not feds.
    As for feds, I wish I could say where I'm at. I understand, to a degree, the calls for limited government, as from the LP. You subscribe to a brand of libertarianism, correct? When I mentioned force earlier, I didn't mean deadly force. I know some libertarians would not accept the enforcement of what you mentioned earlier via the force of the tax code.
    So, if I am understanding you correctly enough, this is why you and I or you and Es or Es and I can ever understand anything the other says at all; because we are not ideologues.
    2648) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687453)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This does give one a different perspective. Not as you, and others believe, an inferior perspective.

    I never said you have an inferior perspective nor do I think that. You don't have a perspective and if you do have one, you don't show it. You never reply to people with actual arguments, just with snide dismissals.

    And you are one to whine about how we think of you. Its not like you don't constantly claim that all our perspectives are 'inferior'. Granted, you don't call it like that, you just claim our perspectives are out of touch, informed by some political agenda, unthinking and insulting towards you. I suppose thats technically only implying that our perspective is inferior compared to your own.


    Indeed! It's not like "Silly", "unthinking". "ideological" "leftist" "right" "like a religious person" is an insult. It is in no way calling the other (or the other's words or the other's perspective) inferior.

    That's why I like him so much and wish he would move closer to our interior.
    I wish to welcome to at least the 33rd level.
    2649) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687385)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-the invisible agenda/PM campaign is starting to work against me. I have credible PMs telling me I am 3 hours from being banned for a month. Darn it! WHy can't you all understand fascism = communism = we're all already living it? Back off, over-reaching state!
    2650) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687383)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RX for Мишель: Enter the number 239521 in the filter box on this page and click "add user to filter." Your blood pressure and stress levels will fall.

    Your Doctor.


    Hey, I'm number 239521! I am going to give Мишель a voucher so he can choose another doctor! :)
    2651) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1687382)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here are some of the more common barriers to learning that I have come across in my years of teaching. Some are related to poverty and some are across the board:

    • Poor nutrition/hunger (result: cannot focus in class/ health issues/fainting etc)
    • Poor housing/homelessness/overcrowding (result: tired/health issues/ no where to study)
    • Violence in the home/outside the home (results:behavioural problems/not able to focus in class)
    • Drug/alcohol abuse(results: not able to focus in class/behaviour problems)
    • Family drug alcohol abuse (results: unstable home/ sometimes actual physical disabilities caused by parents drug/alcohol use while pregnant)
    • Parents in prison (results: behaviour problems relating to anger, abandonment, poverty, lack of hope for future)
    • Gangs (result: students subjected to violence or constantly in trouble with police)
    • Poor clothing (result: students cannot afford warm clothes in winter or proper shoes so cannot be comfortable in class and focus)
    • Sexual abuse (result: students act out in class or disengage completely)
    • Physical or mental disabilities (problems range widely)
    • English as a second language (result: Cannot follow lessons properly)
    • Children in care (Result: sometimes moved from home to home, sometimes not emotionally attached to carer despite having excellent foster parents, trust issues with figures of authority, abandonment issues )


    These are just some of the issues I've had to deal with on a regular basis before I can even begin to teach them.
    So do let me know how vouchers and better teachers are going to fix these actual barriers to school success.


    I'm sure you have missed a few.

    Before I go any farther, my fraternal lodge at the state level, operates http://www.rcskids.org/services/ I support this program. Let me tell a little story. Our campus, which started as an orphanage, does still have children where the system can't find foster parents. On a recent field trip for those kids down to the beach, one of the adults found out it was the 16th birthday of one of the kids. He snuck off and bought a birthday cake for him. When the kid got the cake he had a total meltdown. Crying like a baby. You see, this was the first birthday cake anyone had even given him and he is 16! Now you tell me how vouchers are going to fix this!

    Oh, for you teacher types, I believe we do have an opening if you are up to a huge challenge.


    I agree, it is a huge challenge.
    While working on my Master's degree, I "stumbled" into a part-time position teaching at a community college (I did not go on for further graduate study immediately after that). My first full-time teaching job (while continuing part-time nights or weekend classes) was at a private school for emotionally disturbed teens.
    I left after 1.5 years. I watched a continuous string of faculty and staff leave before me and for a little while a colleague would e-mail me about who else left not long after I did.
    Unfortunately, I believe the bigger problem was inconsistency on the part of administration, making it difficult for us to work with the students in a consistent way (despite their constant claims that ALL of the students there were there due to inconsistencies in parenting).
    2652) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687373)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread reminds me of this: How To Trap A Cat In 3 Easy Steps

    I am sure this thread will be locked very soon.



    So, you believe Thor IS the designer, then? ZZZ Snore once proved to me Hera was the designer. I accepted her logic, if not her love.
    2653) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687309)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question. Why does this thread exist and why is it posted here? I mean, how is this related to politics? All this thread seems to be about is provoking some kind of internet drama.

    And here I was thinking that internet drama was mostly for angsty teenagers. Though I have to say Sarge does a great job at impersonating an angsty teen in this thread.


    No, we're discussing the angsty teen that disrupts the flow of conversation.
    P.S.: Thor is NOT the designer.
    2654) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687296)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzz. Snore.
    You like facts. I don't.
    Such a bore.
    Come at me with an axe. I know you won't.
    All you Brainiacs.
    I'm right. You're not.
    You got a cool axe?
    All light I am, you are nought.

    That's the message. Not the messenger.
    And dem's da facts.

    You do know you are the only one giving this person any attention at all?


    LOL, he's not the only one Es :)


    Yeah! He's not the ONLY one, Es, lol!


    I tend to care too much for people, my mistake.


    I think just about everyone here gives everyone else a chance, whether they agree with their views or not. But everyone has limits, right?

    Besides, She (ZZZ) doesn't care if you care about her. She's just here to keep tabs on me after I rejected her 12 years ago.
    2655) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687278)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzz. Snore.
    You like facts. I don't.
    Such a bore.
    Come at me with an axe. I know you won't.
    All you Brainiacs.
    I'm right. You're not.
    You got a cool axe?
    All light I am, you are nought.

    That's the message. Not the messenger.
    And dem's da facts.

    You do know you are the only one giving this person any attention at all?


    LOL, he's not the only one Es :)


    Yeah! He's not the ONLY one, Es, lol!
    2656) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1687200)
    Posted 3 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzz. Snore.
    You like facts. I don't.
    Such a bore.
    Come at me with an axe. I know you won't.
    All you Brainiacs.
    I'm right. You're not.
    You got a cool axe?
    All light I am, you are nought.

    That's the message. Not the messenger.
    And dem's da facts.

    You do know you are the only one giving this person any attention at all?


    She (ZZZ) has a crush on me. I'm just leading her on until I find a cuter and more interesting woman. Then she will be Dull to me again. Is this wrong of me?
    2657) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1687083)
    Posted 2 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's right, we can't wait decades for trickle down to operate. So we need to force the rich kids into the inner city public schools so their rich mommies and daddies will finally spend time and money to fix the public schools. This way the problem will be solved PDQ. As long as rich mommies and daddies can ignore the problem by sending junior to some private voucher school, the issue will get worse.


    Gary: part of my btain is reading this and thinking "Gary's being sarcastic. I don't think he would go for this force." Yet, it does seem you agree there's a problem and that it will remain as bad, or get worse, by allowing us to self-segregate. I do wish to understand your view as I wish to understand Es' and that of many others. So, could you clarify?
    2658) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1686827)
    Posted 2 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/31/electoral-reform-general-election-results-2015-first-past-the-post?

    Time to change the voting system and i would advise you to do it our way .

    NOT FIRST PAST THE POST but preferences , if your man doesn't get enough to win outright then he has to give his vote to someone else and will have to tell everyone whom that will be before the election , a much better system , not prefect but much better then what you have now .


    (Kenneth?) Arrow proved in the last century or so that all methods of selecting the winning candidate can lead to paradoxical/unfair results.

    For a short, beginner's level introduction to this, see "Excursions in Modern Mathematics" by (Peter?) Tannenbaum.

    Further in the book, coalitions are discussed. Been a while since I've looked at that part, but I seem to recall some odd/unfair things can happen there. To misquote a circus guy, "You can't please all the people all the time."

    But ... zzz ... snore ... facts are boring.
    2659) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1686781)
    Posted 1 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes. Facts is boring.
    Science is boring. zzz
    Art is boring. zzz.
    Politics is boring. zzz.
    Music is boring. zzz.
    Hmm come to Think of ZZZ Top.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCLXy-vSu3o


    LOL!
    2660) Message boards : Politics : Facts are Boring (Message 1686691)
    Posted 1 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzz. Snore.
    You like facts. I don't.
    Such a bore.
    Come at me with an axe. I know you won't.
    All you Brainiacs.
    I'm right. You're not.
    You got a cool axe?
    All light I am, you are nought.

    That's the message. Not the messenger.
    And dem's da facts.
    2661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Youtube is getting greedy............. (Message 1686689)
    Posted 1 Jun 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The point is...of course, youtube makes money by showing ads with some clips.


    Perhaps. However, see below.

    First off, when you try to watch a full movie, some of them are split up into many separate posts, each with an ad intro.
    Second, some of the full movie posts have ads injected every 5-15 minutes. You cannot get by them.


    In most cases, posting of these movies, by the average user, is a copyright violation. Posting songs or even covers of those songs, also copyright violations.
    Users can "monetize" their accounts. (SO, is the money really going to youtube? Maybe some.) But, if they have copyright "strikes" against them, I believe they are unable to monetize the account or, if the offending material is detected later, monetization could be lost.

    Third, and I find this the most insiduous....in the past, when a clip ended, it freaking ENDED. You had the choice of selecting another clip to view or exiting.


    Two others have now told you how to turn off this auto feature.
    It would have been nice if we chose to opt in instead of being forced to choose to opt out.

    Now the pricks automatically stream another clip after the one you just watched.
    They are hoping that you left the window open and they can get another damned hit from your browser because they launched another clip with it's attached ad.


    The great thing about ads, even if allowed to run and even if an average user or youtube gets kickback money from the advertiser, is conditioning your mind to ignore the crap being advertised. Let the companies waste their dollars on ineffective advertising.
    2662) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1685943)
    Posted 30 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course. Everyone believes in Thor.
    You do have to prepare to receive his miracles or you will not see them.
    I know he can perform them. He grew a rock inside me and had it delivered on Thorsday. It is now at the assay office.
    All Hail Thor.

    I believe in Thursdays.
    I Think everybody does that.
    The very same as Fridays as today.

    Lengi lifi Þór.


    Before my Hammer of Disbelief, Thor is powerless!

    But do you have thunder?


    Does "metal" thunder count?
    2663) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1685860)
    Posted 30 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course. Everyone believes in Thor.
    You do have to prepare to receive his miracles or you will not see them.
    I know he can perform them. He grew a rock inside me and had it delivered on Thorsday. It is now at the assay office.
    All Hail Thor.

    I believe in Thursdays.
    I Think everybody does that.
    The very same as Fridays as today.

    Lengi lifi Þór.


    Before my Hammer of Disbelief, Thor is powerless!
    2664) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1685747)
    Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I regret to inform you all I am coming out as an Athorist.

    What is your proof of Athorism?

    I have the hammer.
    Thor doesn't.
    I win.
    2665) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1685534)
    Posted 29 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor is so generous as to let me spend the weekend all alone with Him and the kids, hail Thor..


    Thor did not bless me this past day. I am mad at Him. I regret to inform you all I am coming out as an Athorist.
    2666) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1684894)
    Posted 27 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that there is no racism because they were racist against Chinese as well?

    No, I'm telling you that the blacks benefited from the racism against the Chinese [and others], perhaps not as much as whites, but more than zero.

    OBW, the first panel, actually the first four panels, are also about the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese and Filipino exclusion and controls on Irish, Italians, Jews and other "undesirables."

    The history of the USA is not so black and white as some want to make it out to be.

    No one is suggesting it is just black and white.

    I'm really not understanding why you think black people in particular benefited from racism against Chinese people. Did racism against black people stop or something just because another group was being treated badly?


    First sentence? Doubt that's what he means, but perhaps.
    Second paragraph? I think he means sometimes others got it even worse than Blacks did. Whether that assessment is correct can be debated, but I think this is Gary's meaning. But, to me, racism is racism and the degree of racism doesn't change that it's racism.
    2667) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1683881)
    Posted 25 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We do understand the answers.


    Clyde who is we? Is that an admission of multiple personalities? That could explain a lot.

    Many people in this forum are refering to "we" and "they".
    Who are "we" and "they"?

    Us and them, Me and you. Up and down, Black and Blue and who is who...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qnMB7pOKA


    You have excellent taste in music.
    2668) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1683356)
    Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]I find it incredibly funny! You're all descendants of convicts! Ha ha ha ha! That's why we sent you to the butt-end of the Earth! Yay, Coriolis effect!

    That is a silly statement.

    Yes, it is. I'm glad you understand that. You and Glenn seemed to have missed the further silliness which could be taken as insult in the last two sentences.

    Many current Australians can trace their descendants back to the original convict ships, but as Glenn says, in the 1960's Australia was crying out for skilled workers to emigrate out there. That is why we had the government backed "£10 Assisted Package" scheme.


    The fact that this is being repeated now for at least the third time indicates a thin skin, perhaps?

    See, some of us in the US did receive a decent education. I am aware of the reasons for the origination of non-First Peoples being in Australia. I knew it by age 18. Not from this thread.

    What I was not aware of was the 10 pound program. However, it is not surprising given what I learned from a fellow grad student who stude3nt taught in Australia for a year. I have also since heard of other programs to bring teachers to Australia.

    Yes, respect should go both ways.

    Yet, I fail to see it occurring in this thread.
    2669) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682852)
    Posted 23 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Janne over here if a cop comes to you and says stop swearing and using words like that , (not being politically correct) then you just say "f" off i'm a ozzie and we have a "f"ing colourful "f"ing langauge and i'll "f"ing say what the "f"ing words i "f"ing want , so go ahead ya "f"ing onk onk you "f"ing know it will get "f"ing thrown out of "f"ing court ya "f"ing Onk Onk but you must swear heaps so it sounds like your a true blue Australian as it has been thrown out of court for that reason we do have a colourfull language

    Hrmmm.
    Only for some months ago I walked the dog in unknown places.
    Suddenly 4 hysterical persons shouted at me that I was trespassing their property and accussed me for vandalism and being a peeping Tom.
    I was not. I was 30 yards from their precious property.
    THREE police officers came and was very confused.
    However one of them shouted at me and said:
    "Where are you coming from? I can hear that you are not from here".
    I answered that I live here. He said "shit in your pants" !!!!
    I said "I dont Think a police officers should say so"
    He said "1-0 to you" as if it was soccergame.

    Sweden today:(


    Janne your side of the story does not sound right to me , so some advice next time a cop says something like that to you understand why .
    He did not believe your story and was trying to pee you off as people make mistakes when they are angry and it is a typical tactic used by cops to test if someone is telling them the truth.

    Why the hell did you stick around till the cops turn'd up . i would have just given them the bird (the finger) and walked off


    Why do you assume he waited?
    Here's what one judge did to a defendant for flipping the bird.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLA7dQ-uxR0[/url
    What do you think some police officers will do?
    2670) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682836)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Indeed.
    Quite right.
    It would be a typical, silly, unthinking poster that is but a prisoner of Her Majesty.


    Not quit shore what your trying to say there . Australia was built on the convict labor from England and is meant as a joke as most Australian can trace there origin back to convicts so it's also meant as a joke to all Australians not just English people

    But what can i expect from people without a sense of Humor


    I find it incredibly funny! You're all descendants of convicts! Ha ha ha ha! That's why we sent you to the butt-end of the Earth! Yay, Coriolis effect!
    2671) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682832)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People need to grow up and get thicker skins . It's not what you say that makes a comment a racist remark it's the context of the comment , to many times a comment is meant as a joke so if you can't laugh at your self then your a miserable person .

    The old saying when in Rome be a Roman apply's to anybody that moves to another country , you don't go there and then whinge about what people say or call you as you can all ways get back on the plane and go back to where you came from if you find the people s comments offensive

    When i came to Australia i did not understand many of the things people would say to me and took a long time to understand things . When you understand that is a normal thing and part of being what is called a Larrykin and every group of forigners has had the same thing , Chineese , Italian , Veitnameese they have all had to put up with it , it's called a right of passage here and should not be thought off as racist you should wear it like a badge as my father in law did as i do , so grow up people .


    Indeed.
    Quite right.
    When another poster calls your post a typical, silly, unthinking post, you should take it in context, laugh at yourself and accept it as that newbie poster's way of making those who've posted much longer accept it as his rite of passage imposed upon others.
    Indeed. Everything you say is absolutely quite right, chap.
    2672) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682828)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Chris people think pommy is a racist comment is is not and now people know what it actually means and even i had forgotten what it meant and i have been called it plenty of times .

    I'm a pom and proud of it .


    Indeed.
    Quite right.
    It would be a typical, silly, unthinking poster that is but a prisoner of Her Majesty.
    2673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone at Blizzard is also a fan of puns. (Message 1682741)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm in for 11:30, if that works for Jim and Celt.

    Just let me know if that is 11:30 Pacific, or if I need to make a time adjustment.


    I don't want to get in the way of any mopping.

    My friend, you couldn't if you tried, for I fully intend to CLEAN UP this evening. I shall WRING OUT every last pun until I am able to SOAK UP all of your concession speeches. Everyone should watch, as the contest will be highly ABSORBING. You will just have to SUCK IT UP and watch as I expel all of my opponents into the VACUUM of space. Yes, I am anticipating quite a DUST UP...


    Breaking News! Angela has been rounded up by Anna of the Vs as a 5th column word master and Anna has thrown Angela in the PUNitentiary for an undisclosed amount of time. This is Chad Decker, saying, it doesn't look 11:30 tonight is going to happen after all. :(
    2674) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682740)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will post this a second time....

    Brits are called Limeys because back in Elizabeth 1st days, sailors got scurvry on long sea voyages due to lack of fresh food with vitamin C. So they took barrels of limes on board to make up for it. Brits are also called Poms because in times past when they murdered someone, they would be banished from England and sent off to Australia. Pom stands for Prisoner of her Majesty.


    I will post this a first time.
    So, Brits are all sailors? All Brit sailors had scurvy? So, since limes didn't work, Elizabeth I sent them, as prisoners, to Australia, as original sinners and now all in Australia are scurvy infected sailors?

    I doubt your short post or your longer posts would really explain why you bring it up or help anything.

    Why mention the terms?

    Repeating the slurs, with inadequate explanation of them and why it is silly to use them, keeps the slurs alive.
    2675) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682417)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was connecting "empire" and "empirical".

    Using Google translate works sometimes very bad.
    To much synonyms to handle.
    Today I translated the Word "Huvudstad" English capital in a text and got Helsinki the capital of Finland!
    And Swedish swearwords that are in a religious context to us become obscene in English.


    I wasn't using Google.
    In fact, after I posted, I used the reverse from the same service and got exactly the same thing you did. I figured you would understand most of it and then the small parts that came out ridiculous could be quickly clarified.
    2676) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682385)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was Quick:)
    Here is what you mean.

    Thor mun ríkja langan tíma á meðan hann er að upplifa.
    Thor will reign for a long time while he is experiencing.
    Thor må regera en lång tid medans han upplever.

    Asatru er skemmtilegur "trú" og við sérstaklega eins Thor.

    Lifi Thor.


    It was connecting "empire" and "empirical".
    2677) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1682383)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess what?
    99% of your posts go unseen.
    More evidence you enjoy anti-discussing?
    Seriously, as you said, these message board political discussions don't mean anything. What does it say, then, when you post so much?
    2678) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682366)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Long may Thor king over his empire while experience!
    Hmm Does not make sense to Thor...


    Long may Thor reign over his empire while using empirical evidence!
    2679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Someone at Blizzard is also a fan of puns. (Message 1682363)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm proud that you looked pasture fears, took the bull by the horns and didn't kowtow.

    Yes, Ozz Fan is certainly no COWard!

    (Anyone up for a Pun War tomorrow night?)


    By Jove, it's the PUNic Wars all over again?! Were the PUNics PUNy people?
    2680) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1682361)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let me guess.
    You found my response unthinking and silly.
    Guess what?
    I gave you what you wanted.
    And you like to waste your time on anti-discussing such things.
    P.S.-addressed months ago why I mention Koch Brothers. You want to throw Soros in every time? Sure, go ahead, what do I care? My ironic point is made, with or without him.
    2681) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682360)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor, I know you exist! You speak to me! Surely, personal experience is evidence of existence???

    Já, vissulega. hvað annað.
    það kallað eftir reynslunni vísindi!

    Lifi Thor:)


    Lengi getur Thor konungur yfir heimsveldi hans meðan reynslan!
    2682) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682352)
    Posted 22 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor, I know you exist! You speak to me! Surely, personal experience is evidence of existence???
    2683) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1682348)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor, may I honor you by sleeping?
    2684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1682183)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is a current picture.

    Sexy and Clyde knows it!
    2685) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1682182)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All these 'types', are a scourge upon humanity.


    Including those "types" who type what type they think others are. ?

    !!!

    ;)
    2686) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1682168)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, I whistle and they come running! :)
    P.S.-Clyde, when will you realize you're more cloistered? When will you realize I pushed no button? When will you realize I gave a prime example of why I do not fit the mold you think I fit? When will you realize that your posts represent the analytical level of 60 months?
    Please, do demonstrate more of your "thinking" and "maturity" so that we can all do it right.
    (Posting here isn't the pleasure you're looking for. You don;t want to sell us death sticks. You want to shut down your tablet and re-think your life and your posts.)
    2687) Message boards : Politics : Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga. No Politician 'Is' Too BIG to FAIL. And NO Politician 'Is' Too Big, Not to go to JAIL. Plenty of Time for Yoga coming. (Message 1681977)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Madame Yoga while S of S and CoHorts had Plans to 'Carve Up' L I B Y A into Great Big Bags of Cash.

    Man 'O Live.

    Saw a Docu 'bout 3 PhotO-Journos in L I B Y A during Dat Countrys' 'Little Dust Up' during Da Spring a Few Years Back.

    2 Died during a blast and 1 injured. He is telling The Story.

    Mega Destruction, Death, and All Out Misery.

    And This is Where 'Lady Hustle' 'was' Going to Go from 'Broke' to 'Queen' Money Bags.

    Yep


    Got money is cool? Got the ends justifies the means? Double yep! Go cry to the Koch Brothers.
    2688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1681976)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I tried the site out and it said i was 54 not bad seeing as i'm 52 can't post the picture to prove it you'll just have to believe me .

    Post it, post it!
    2689) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681974)
    Posted 21 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    As most everyone who posts here is very far removed from the ghetto and attitudes of the ghetto it can be very hard to understand how much depression and lack of self worth is in that attitude. You might ask yourself why it was called the Great Depression and if that might have anything to do with the ghetto

    ...

    Speak for yourself. I lived and worked in the ghetto for nearly 20 years. I had these issues up in my face on a daily basis.


    Same here. I grew up in a neighborhood just a few steps above trailer-park trash. My mother always tried to give off the impression we were more well-off than we were. But I am quite familiar with the atmosphere and attitudes of the environment.


    I'll one-up that. I grew up in a trailer park.
    C'mon, Dull and Clyde, let's hear you now.
    2690) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681322)
    Posted 19 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, as to those Asians and their names, what the professor doesn't know, because it isn't on his roll sheet, is they mostly have Asian middle name(s). Their parents just chose to give their children a given name that will allow them success in the culture of the USA.


    Because of privacy, I cannot list names of recent Asian students. But, in recent years, I have seen no sign of Anglicized names. And the last time an Asian student/colleague told me I could call him an Anglican name was over 10 years ago. Why call him Charles when Ling Ji (leeng gee) is easy to pronounce? I do my best to pronounce all names as correctly as possible: eastern European, middle eastern, Asian, Hispanic/Latino, etc. ... .
    2691) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1681240)
    Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DUKE_PROFESSOR_CRITICISM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- A Duke University professor criticized for an online post comparing blacks and Asians said Monday that it's not racist to discuss what he sees as differences in how the groups have performed in the U.S. over the past few decades.
    ...
    In his online comments, Hough wrote that Asians have been described as "yellow races" and faced discrimination in 1965 at least as bad as blacks experienced. Of Asian-Americans, he wrote: "They didn't feel sorry for themselves, but worked doubly hard."

    The posting goes on to say: "I am a professor at Duke University. Every Asian student has a very simple old American first name that symbolizes their desire for integration. Virtually every black has a strange new name that symbolizes their lack of desire for integration."

    hmmm..I guess he is unaware of the fact that black americans had their african names stolen from the them because of slavery and were given white names by their white owners and took the slave masters surnames. This is why they make up their own names, its not about being different. Its about trying to regain some dignity after the forced assimilation of slavery.

    The claim that one ethnicity is cleverer of stupider than anther has shown to be false on many occasions and any such claims are racist. What Asian students have is respect for teachers and education. Many black students have a justifiable distrust of the educational institutions and teachers. Its not something that is innate. It is due to history.


    Furthermore, it's been a long time since I've had an Asian student telling me it's ok to use some English name for him or her. Certainly not in this past year or two.

    There are some rare good reasons for changing names. When I was in 8th grade, the church I attended sponsored a family of Vietnames refugees (single mother and 2 boys a little younger than me).

    Their first names were Dot and Phuc (pronounced fook). Think a moment and you can see why Don and Frank were suggested as replacements.
    2692) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1680878)
    Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Moops
    If that doesn't sum up this board ......... thanks for the laugh.

    The bubble boy insisted it was the "Moors", but George said the card said "Moops".
    Seriously, though, was there much interbreeding? Could this be a further source of prejudice against Hispanics?
    2693) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1680867)
    Posted 18 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No. Racism has nothing to do with skin color.

    And you would be 100% correct. Racism is a misnomer. It has zero to do with race. The issue is discrimination based on ethnic culture or being different. That even includes white trash culture. That also includes the finger pointing and name calling "fatso."

    Until you can properly identify a problem, you can't hope to fix it.

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article21200154.html
    Senate candidate Loretta Sanchez appears to disparage American Indians
    “I am going to his office, thinking that I am going to meet with a,” she said, holding her hand in front of her mouth and making an echo sound. “Right? ... because he said Indian American.

    Ms. Sanchex is the daughter of Mexican parents. Without a DNA test I'd wager that means Ms. Sanchez has a good bit of Native American blood in her. Of course her family might be pure Spaniard in which case she is White European. But neither of these are her ethnic label.


    Actually, it seems the Moops spread fairly far into Spain, for an extended time. Thus, some African or Middle Eastern DNA spread into Spain, right? The Moops may be another reason for some of the racism towards Hispanics.
    2694) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1680341)
    Posted 16 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy belated Thorsday everyone, hope y'all had a good one.
    ____________


    Ops it's Friday here , has Thor got a sister .Friegjrd-ay !


    Friggs is Thor's mom.

    Yes, but Thor is the designer. Even if he isn't the unmoved mover!

    All Hail Thor!


    The Prime Mover exists outside of both space and time. The Prime Mover, therefore, can have no cause. It is no contradiction to say Frigga is the mother of Thor, for Thor create the universe and created Frigga could become his incarnate Mother.
    2695) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1680025)
    Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy belated Thorsday everyone, hope y'all had a good one.
    ____________


    Ops it's Friday here , has Thor got a sister .Friegjrd-ay !


    Friggs is Thor's mom.
    2696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679809)
    Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Taken June 2014 and very wrong.
    2697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679806)
    Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh puh-leeze!!! ANYONE can take a bad picture. I can look like a venerable elder in real life. Now THAT takes talent!


    Bad pic? Carlos looks very distinguished in both.
    2698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679770)
    Posted 15 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well I guess it depends on my facial hair. Two images both taken last month.

    I am much closer to the bearded one.


    A 29 year difference? Wow!
    2699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679694)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This was taken about 2.5 months after my 39th birthday.

    P.S.-I am still 39, as shown in the pic as my avatar.
    2700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679691)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was 27, not 23.
    [/img]

    P.S.-@msattler ... THIS is a mullet.
    2701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How Old are You compared to what this photo website says you are? (Message 1679648)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was 27, not 23.
    [/img]
    2702) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1679646)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know you are Thor, for this thread tells me so.
    And they shall know we are Thorians, by our thunder ... by our thunder.

    Bagpipes AC/DC "Thunderstruck" with flames Bad Piper

    Already watched it.
    2703) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1679638)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know you are Thor, for this thread tells me so.
    And they shall know we are Thorians, by our thunder ... by our thunder.
    2704) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1679464)
    Posted 14 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the UK has a lot of space to let refugees in.
    Period.


    "Unperiod", no we don't, unless of course someone would like to live on the top of Ben Nevis....Period!!

    Your theorem is fundamentally floored. Population per square mile in the UK
    stands at 1,349. If you think that one square mile of land can produce enough
    food to feed these 1,349 heads of population then I'd like to know what
    farming methods you choose to adopt. Especially so if you think there's room
    for more refugees to come in, just hope that if they do come they then bring
    their own food with them....Period!!


    Ia that an average (arithmetic mean)?
    2705) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1678508)
    Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    are by no means free. However lets look at the freedom scores:

    Yes, lets do that.

    The index of freedom is constructed as follows. We combine economic freedom measures from the Economic Freedom of the World (EFW) index with measures of what we somewhat imprecisely call civil or personal freedoms

    Seems pretty flimsy to me. But of course if it suits your purpose.


    Wouldn't it be more constructive to talk about how the index is determined (who creates it, where is it from) and where you disagree with its assessment? Please, tell us, how is Es manipulating it to suit her purposes?

    More snitty comments from you?[/quotte]
    One of your more senior Moderators had this to say recently

    [quote]First step is to politely remind posters about personal attacks and to stay on topic. Second step is to hide the posts that continue to fall into the above categories, The last step will be to lock the thread.

    That is fine with me. Can we be told when this policy will be put into effect?


    So, "snitty comment" is, in fact, not a comment about the comment but rather a comment about you? Fascinating interpretation.
    2706) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1678506)
    Posted 12 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    1 New Zealand
    2 Netherlands
    3 Hong Kong
    4 Australia
    5 Canada
    6 Ireland

    12 places above the UK? Hmmmm, think it could be time to return home. :-)

    7 United States of America
    8 Denmark
    9 Japan
    10 Estonia
    11 Switzerland
    12 Norway
    13 Finland
    14 Austria
    15 Luxembourg
    16 Chile
    17 Iceland
    18 United Kingdom
    19 Slovakia
    20 Costa Rica
    21 El Salvador
    22 Uruguay
    23 Spain
    24 Albania
    25 Portugal
    26 Bahamas
    27 Malta
    28 Panama
    29 Sweden
    30 Mauritius


    Golly gosh!! Glad I don't live in either Germany, France or Belgium, none feature in the top 30 at all. Funny, all are strong proponents of a United States of Europe...makes one think "what do they really want"?...for us all.
    ...a dictatorship???


    US at 7? Slightly surprised.
    2707) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1678504)
    Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Easier said than done.

    No it isn't.


    Yes, after the election results I think that they are the poorer, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.

    I totally disagree with your assessment. The lib dems got what they deserved. The British media is controlled by about six right wing men who ran a scare campaign to keep labour out.

    Nobody liked the Human Rights act

    You don't speak for everyone, much as you think you do. I liked the human rights act. Last time I looked, I wasn't nobody. You might think otherwise, but again, you don't speak for everyone.

    ...that allowed out and out Terrorists to remain in the UK, saying to be deported contravenes their 'uman rites. (deliberate spelling)

    You are going to have to provide evidence of that statement and explain at what point terrorists (assuming they have actually been tried and proved to be terrorists) stop being human beings.

    History shows that the Canadian Bill of Rights was flawed. They started again with the Charter, and even that has criticism. Canada will never sort itself out whilst a large chunk is French.

    That's pretty insulting. No document is going to be without its criticisms, but the Canadian Charter of Rights is held up as a blueprint of how to do it.

    I am not a citizen neither am I a subject, I am a person.

    You are a subject of the Queen.

    I accept that generally speaking people living within a Monarchy are described as subjects, people living within a republic are citizens, and in a dictatorship prisoners. (I am not a number, I am a free man).

    You are by no means free. However lets look at the freedom scores:
    An Index of Freedom in the World (pdf document.) The list in on the 10th page of the document and it lists Canada in the top 5 whereas the UK is in 18th place. That will obviously change if you get rid of the Human Rights Act.

    The kindergarten group need to grow up.

    More snitty comments from you?


    I would have said snotty.
    Or shitey.
    Love this webshite.
    2708) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Shapes on Mars (Message 1678344)
    Posted 11 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This vid is for you, Bob!

    A bit too far fetched for my taste.


    And you find it far-fetched compared to ... ? And for what reasons?


    These are serious questions, Bob.
    2709) Message boards : Politics : 5 year Political future for the UK (Message 1677822)
    Posted 10 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Conclusion: Mr Chris S. does not gather the difference between EU and NATO. If that would be a general British case, well that might explain a thing or two.

    Ok another one for the list.

    So sonny, what country might you be thinking you speak from then? Got the guts to say, or hiding behind pseudonyms? No profile either we see.


    If you're going to try to make these requirement5s, then I shall remove such information from my account.
    2710) Message boards : Politics : What makes someone a M.C.P (Message 1676805)
    Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of boring. And whining.

    In a needed response to your post Sarge...

    Just two (or more) Peas in a Pod.

    You guys/gals with your silly, unthinking, must call names, aren't We Superior, Ideology are, in fact, totally boring.

    Will you, or your Cousins in name calling - Religious Fanatics - understand? Never.

    Just my opinion as an Atheist of Religion and Ideology.

    Wondering if a need for Ideology, both Left and Right. Is just a Primitive need, of some, to 'Believe'.

    :) :) :)


    You do describe yourself very well.
    2711) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Shapes on Mars (Message 1676489)
    Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This vid is for you, Bob!

    A bit too far fetched for my taste.


    And you find it far-fetched compared to ... ? And for what reasons?
    2712) Message boards : Politics : What makes someone a M.C.P (Message 1676404)
    Posted 9 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of boring. And whining.
    2713) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Shapes on Mars (Message 1674557)
    Posted 7 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This vid is for you, Bob!
    2714) Message boards : Politics : What makes someone a M.C.P (Message 1674543)
    Posted 7 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As much as we've disagreed in the past ...


    While this is way off topic, I have to say it: at least some of those disagreements were due to some people manipulating perceptions. They never ever allowed us to find out what we had in common with each other.
    2715) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1672840)
    Posted 1 May 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, god of sky and thunder/
    fly down to hear my cry./
    Our message board torn asunder/
    lurkers drift and die./
    Golden ideologies entomb us/
    multiply rather than divide./
    So cast down your thunder upon us/
    and my S@H enemies chide-reride. :)
    2716) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1670799)
    Posted 27 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They clearly are not interested in education.

    No, just pontification.

    Can't say it's not tempting, but turns unfulfilling very quickly.
    2717) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1670741)
    Posted 27 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They clearly are not interested in education.
    2718) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1670223)
    Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Really busy in pm land again.
    2719) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1670132)
    Posted 26 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ooooh threats now?

    Please explain. I'm lost...

    Sure.
    2720) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1669690)
    Posted 25 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Geez o' flip, did he change dat screen name 'gin?
    If he only 'stood the song.
    2721) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1669562)
    Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SETI started a Fora called Politics, Discussion of Political Topics, not Debates of Political Topics.

    Actually, Seti did neither. It started a forum (singular) simply called Politics. The reason for that was to take all the heated stuff away from the cafe where it was causing a problem. It was then decided to take a rather more "lenient view" of posts made within the new forum, but still firmly within the rules.

    Posts here are discussions, debates, exchanges of views, however you wish to see it, upon a range of topics.


    Besides, now someone wants to debate the meaning of debate? LOL!
    2722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1669404)
    Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2723) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1669235)
    Posted 24 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bless me, Thor, for I have sinned. It has been 13 Thor's Days since I honoured you. It will be 1 or 2 more.
    2724) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1668651)
    Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should have a statistics page on the block list so we can behave more like a collective .....


    I doubt you would actually agree to that, but OTOH I suspect you would agree it is wise for some of us to have some others on ignore. Further, that you probably ignore some of the same, or don't have them blocked but still ignore much of their posts or, finally, are losing your patience for some.

    The point of my previous post was to demonstrate the ridiculous extremes to which a few took my prior to previous post. I believe it should have been clear: I am not here for mudslinging. I am here for debate, even if with people I do not agree. If someone crosses my self-defined line of offensive, why should I read anything more from that person? Or would they prefer I sink to their level(s)?
    2725) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1668390)
    Posted 22 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your honor, I submit to you, San Francisco has 'Nothing' to do with Dull's rant that we fail to criticize Obama. I move to strike. I also file a motion that we be forced to use the red X a minimum of 10 times a day and that I be forced to publicize my block list so that others be forced to block the same people I do. Because, you know, 'It'.
    2726) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1667869)
    Posted 21 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Freedom, au! (With an umlaut. For the Yiddish, oy!)
    2727) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1667266)
    Posted 19 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor has chosen to make today challenging for me.

    All Hail Thor


    Concur.
    2728) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1667075)
    Posted 19 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you learn at age 3 what it is for life to kick you in the derriere, it's hard to lead a monastic existence. When one seeks out conversation and friendship (in person and online) with several outside the supposed "cloister" of one's department (or even several of opposing points of view within one's cloister), it is hard to lead a monastic existence. When one routinely encounters people who would like to kick one's derriere for having long hair, a different sense of humor or one's occupation, it is hard to lead a monastic existence. At best, one can catch a few moments of peace by switching from listening to hard rock and metal over to the space ambient stuff for a while and, here on the S@H fora, putting someone who he believes he knows what existences others lead on ignore. Granted, that moment of peace can be tainted when, by coding/design flaw, others that do not have that user on ignore quote that user in their responses. I predict three things:

    1) He will eventually disappear.
    2) Or, he will be ignored by more and more to become the empty can, rattling most, that no one hears.
    3) Or, he will eventually learn to change his tactics/communication style and become someone we enjoy speaking with, even if we do not see eye to eye.

    My prediction will deliberately lack what probabilities I think should be assigned to this partition of the sample space.[/list][/list]
    2729) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1666968)
    Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If you disagree, on who is winning:

    So what. I don't care.

    I know who is really winning, by your, and others, silly, not to the point, responses.

    Not understand any thinking, outside of a Monastic Type Intellectual Environment: Is to be expected, from those with a Theological/Ideological Belief.

    Just as many would get bored, and worse, attempting to have an Intellectual Discussion with a Religious Believer:

    I find the same with Ideological Believers.

    Neither you, or others sharing your Beliefs, will ever truly understand.

    Just Human Nature.

    I'm sorry Clyde, I've raised too many teenagers and taught too many teenagers to not see your posting style for exactly what it is.


    Monastic? LOL! He'a totally missed all the hints. Sees only what he wishes to, 'Tis a wonder more than 4 people have left his posts visible.
    Besides, the point was, why does Dull believe no one goes after Obama (when, of course, it was already demonstrated even libs do, but we wanted to hear his supposed reasons for believing this).
    2730) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1666934)
    Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your free association comes at a cost. Mine does not. Stream of consciousness from me, Your stream? River sentiment, dredged up, only to have the pebbles left in da delta.
    Bow ye, to your stone idol, jailed "Dr." Kent Ho-hum-vind. Speciation. Glaciation.
    Oh, that mud you flung, was not by you, but by 'The' Flood?
    2731) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1666827)
    Posted 18 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You, and Gary, are at least consistent. Which in some ways positive, and in others, negative.

    Perhaps we see the Emperor's clothes.


    See, this is where I don't even get what Clyde is trying to say.
    Is he saying, "among the qualities Gary and Sarge have, they are consistent in the way they speak"?
    Or is he saying, "among the S@H posters, we can say there are at least two posters that are consistent"?
    This is such interesting use of the American language, if confusing.
    2732) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1666538)
    Posted 17 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aren't Christian women still asked to cover their heads when they go onto Church?


    Eh?
    2733) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1666537)
    Posted 17 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For example, the wearing of the veil for Muslimas. Am I being patronising if I try to tell women from another culture what they should or should not wear? (its not like western women are free from restrictive clothing expectations) or is it a sign of an oppressive misogynistic culture and I should condemn it.

    Why the questioning of your own thoughts?

    More importantly why would you not question your own thoughts?

    Gary...

    Thank you.

    Very typical response from you, and others, when confronted by an 'Inconvenient Question'.

    Does make our point concerning those who believe, as you do.

    Again...

    Thank you.

    So glad to know that in your case all the answers to all questions are in that "good book" you read.


    Hence, my recent Socrates quote.
    One who is not questioning one's thoughts is the same as, or one step away, from one who believe (s)he is right on sll matters. Thus, the recent suggestion this particular man is employing the Socratic method seems to be allowing extreme patience. The probability appears to be exceedingly small.
    2734) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1665757)
    Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The problem is, despite someone claiming that something is a religion, such as the social structures Dr. Crichton observed, does not make it so.

    It is a perpetuation of the myth that all belief systems are secular religions. That Dr. Crichton, and anybody that agrees with him, sees similarities between these social structures and religion is merely our pattern matching brains attempting to identify and categorize our observations with things we've seen in the past. However, to always use old paradigms for classifications of belief systems is to expect that all things remain the same. This obviously could not be further from the truth. Things change all the time, and with new data comes new classifications (e.g. Pluto becoming classified as a dwarf planet).

    Ergo, not all belief systems are religions.


    +1
    2735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderation April 1. (Message 1665467)
    Posted 15 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe the OP was expecting an April's Fool's Joke?

    Now that is an interesting thought!!

    Perhaps Pebbles or Bam Bam will be the next mod?
    2736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1665248)
    Posted 14 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    2737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1665247)
    Posted 14 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1665240)
    Posted 14 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Yes, this is the feral cat that adopted me about 3 years ago.
    2739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1665198)
    Posted 14 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow! Seriously? No one wants to take part in this new game thread? Julie? Angela?
    2740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1664535)
    Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    You can do it! Go to http://makeameme.org!
    2741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Create a Meme! (Message 1664353)
    Posted 12 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2742) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1663959)
    Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It can't be such an amazing place that it took...

    "Bourne is grateful that the work of the World War II code-breakers has so much recognition today, after years of being overlooked. Millions of pounds in funding from the National Lottery has allowed the huts around Bletchley Park to be restored and a visitor centre created."

    ...funds provided by gamblers to restore something that a grateful nation should have done.


    So, is it not a great place or is your nation full of ungrateful people? Please, make your point clearer.
    2743) Message boards : Politics : Myths and Realities (Message 1663933)
    Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michel, I am often surprised when someone is saying similar things to you, you overlook this. Furthermore, while there is some truth to some of Dena's recent posts, I was attempting to provide a more nuanced version of reality to both what she said and what you have said.

    Let's not "nitpick". Here's an example you should find easier to follow.

    Science fiction author Isaac Asimov died in 1992. His Foundation books have never been made into movies. "I, RObot" was, but about a decade after his death.

    I am willing to bet he also was a rich man, but he died of "Heart and kidney failure related to AIDS". Even so, he was 72 at his death.

    The worlds/galaxy he described from the Robot series to the Foundation series took a lot of description. I think it could be fair to say that up to and including 1992, a movie trying to show what he described would have been quite inadequate. If he had said, there's no way I'd let my book be made into a movie because movie technology could not adequately convey my words, I would not be surprised.

    He was born and died too early for CGI. That his existence occupied the time span it did, from 1920-1992, was pure coincidence (unless you subscribe to belief in a divine creator, and specifically a creator that puts each person on Earth precisely when he/she/it plans to). Pure coincidence = luck. Plain and simple.

    BTW, I imagine any of his heirs received money from the "I, Robot" movie. But, coincidentally, Isaac did not. IE, by luck, Isaac did not.

    Stanley Kubrick, who helped Arthur C. Clarke bring 2001 to film, lived 81 years, dying in 1999 of natural causes. This was right about the time CGI was appearing in movies. By coincedence ... by luck ... he did not live long enough to even consider putting out with Clarke an edited or updated version of 2001.

    The problem I have with your point is that you are essentially saying that you need to exist in order to benefit from capitalism. I mean sure, technically thats true, but its also such a vague statement that becomes sort of meaningless.

    Furthermore, opportunities also need to first exist before they can be grasped and profited from under capitalism. Again, technically thats true, but its again a vague statement. Clearly Asimov and Clarke couldn't benefit from CGI because they were dead by the time it became useful for their works. So according to you, they weren't lucky because their existence and the opportunities existence didn't coincide.

    Say that Asimov and Clarke were both born later and were still alive today. Their existence and the existence of the opportunity that CGI provides coincide. According to you, now they are lucky and therefor they will benefit because of capitalism, right? Wrong. Just because your existence and the existence of an opportunity exist side by side does not mean you automatically profit from it. You need to grasp the opportunity, by having the superior idea on how to exploit the opportunity, and only then will you profit.

    Think about it. Right now, you and billions of other people exist side by side with millions of opportunities. But only a handful of people will profit from those opportunities, because they are the people with the smartest ideas, while everyone else does not. Yet according to you, those people have the same sort of luck as Asimov would have had if he had lived long enough to witness the might of CGI.

    I would say that you can't speak of being unlucky when you simply don't exist at a moment to profit from an opportunity, nor are you unlucky when you can't profit from an opportunity that simply does not exist when you are around.


    I believe you have inferred a fair amount about what I said that I did not say nor implied. To take your first paragraph and put it in nearly your words but to more accurately reflect what I believe "When you exist determines what benefits you do or don't reap."

    "Unlucky" is a response to a pure chance event. You cannot determine in advance when you roll a six-sided die what side it will land on. What you wanted it to land on and your response to it has no bearing on the fact that the phenomenon is random.

    I did not say "Just because your existence and the existence of an opportunity exist side by side does not mean you automatically profit from it", nor can it be inferred. At best, one could say such a person might seem at first to have the first and best chance of reaping the benefits, but it might not work out that way. Clearly, I did not say "If I lived when Bell lived, I would have been the one to create the telephone." Nor did I say, "Dang that Bell, he lived earlier than I did, I am so unlucky" or "I lived when Bell did but that rat b45+4rd under cut me and put the phone out first."

    I could write more, but I am winding down from a long work week, want to go out tonight and then wind up working a fair portion of the weekend, so I am not going to delve into further explanation for now. Hopefully, mu shorter post was succinct and explanatory enough for you.
    2744) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1663927)
    Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I am, and will continue to, pay for mine. Affordability is key.
    However, I will soon be filling these forms out: Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF)


    Here you would not owe $100,000 + student loans as it's regulated and subzidised by Fed and state Governments .

    Christopher Pine Minister for Education want's to deregulate the system , but that would mean over time the Uni free's will increase and become like your system and they don't wish to stop there , they also wish to have Local school Boards, like i believe the States have .

    Big no to second one ...YOU END UP WITH WITH stupid boards teaching B/S like

    divine creation


    My student loan debt is not that large, nor is it very small.
    Most of it was accrued during graduate school, past a Master's degree. When one decides, after a few years, to go back to school and earns about 1/3 or less of what he earned prior, one cuts back, but there are still earlier bills to pay, plus it may take time to figure out what and how much to cut. Also, as I implied, I do not wish to leave my debts for the taxpayers to pick up. On the other hand, I have put in a great amount of public service and so I will be applying to get some of that debt forgiven. Note that one of the requirements is 10 years of on time payments for at least the amount due each month.

    Your second point had nothing to do with anything I posted, yet I shall address it. Yes, it is in our Constitution that education is left to the localities and the state governments, not the federal government. Given what most of what I gather from your posts, you would not like, say, the Texas curriculum, but you might like the curriculum of NY State, or at least what it used to be. I am a product of the latter, for better or worse.

    What you seem to be unaware of is that the US federal government has become more and more involved in local state decisions. You might think that is a good thing. If so, look more into Laura Bush's "No Child Left Behind" (sounds so grand on the surface) or "Common Core" that is working its way through during the current Obama administration. I am not passing judgment, but I am aware of pros and cons.

    Pro: a family with children could move in the middle of a school year from Texas to New York State and not lose time because a child learning 7th grade math in Texas turns out to be learning 5th or 6th grade math in NY State. (No offense to Texas: this is just a hypothetical example!)

    Con: apparently one publishing company is producing materials for this nationwide curriculum. (Disclaimer: I have done freelance accuracy checking for the publisher.)

    Furthermore, in Texas, there are apparently enough politicians from the local to state level to have Creationism taught in science classes. Texas remains the largest state in terms of population, so there curriculum choices can have influences on publishers' choices. If you are against Creationism, do you want Texas to eventually force it to be taught nationwide via their influence on the publisher? Or, if you are against evolution, that NY STate (perhaps around 4th in population these days?) to force teaching of evolution on the rest of the nation?
    2745) Message boards : Politics : Myths and Realities (Message 1663905)
    Posted 11 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, but I would say there's at least a 3rd and 4th option.

    ... it grants success to smart work.


    It also grants success to luck in the sense of inheritance (among other things) and luck mixed with hard work and smart work.

    Example: George Lucas had the luck to live long enough for CGI to be developed so he could go back and add special effects to his original trilogy of Star Wars movies. In that luck, hr was able to get lots of people to watch them again at the theaters and sell new versions on VHS and DVD. It also served as hype to get people interested for the next installment of trilogies.

    No, luck is not a factor. What you call luck is either the result of an unequal playing field, giving some actors natural advantages from the start, or its not really luck, but smart work and being simply better than the competition in some crucial way.

    In the first case, capitalism doesn't inherently reward it. Yes, your life is probably easier and you gain a lot of advantages, but those are not the result of capitalism rewarding you for being lucky. In most other systems such a person would have a unfair advantages. Besides, being born with money or the right genes is not a guarantee for success. You can still be outsmarted or you can still screw up and make mistakes and end up losing the advantage.

    In the second case, which would be your Star Wars example, George Lucas wasn't lucky. I mean, living to the ripe old age of 55 is not lucky if you are a rich American. He saw and made use of another opportunity and thats it. Smart business move, no luck involved.


    Michel, I am often surprised when someone is saying similar things to you, you overlook this. Furthermore, while there is some truth to some of Dena's recent posts, I was attempting to provide a more nuanced version of reality to both what she said and what you have said.

    Let's not "nitpick". Here's an example you should find easier to follow.

    Science fiction author Isaac Asimov died in 1992. His Foundation books have never been made into movies. "I, RObot" was, but about a decade after his death.

    I am willing to bet he also was a rich man, but he died of "Heart and kidney failure related to AIDS". Even so, he was 72 at his death.

    The worlds/galaxy he described from the Robot series to the Foundation series took a lot of description. I think it could be fair to say that up to and including 1992, a movie trying to show what he described would have been quite inadequate. If he had said, there's no way I'd let my book be made into a movie because movie technology could not adequately convey my words, I would not be surprised.

    He was born and died too early for CGI. That his existence occupied the time span it did, from 1920-1992, was pure coincidence (unless you subscribe to belief in a divine creator, and specifically a creator that puts each person on Earth precisely when he/she/it plans to). Pure coincidence = luck. Plain and simple.

    BTW, I imagine any of his heirs received money from the "I, Robot" movie. But, coincidentally, Isaac did not. IE, by luck, Isaac did not.

    Stanley Kubrick, who helped Arthur C. Clarke bring 2001 to film, lived 81 years, dying in 1999 of natural causes. This was right about the time CGI was appearing in movies. By coincedence ... by luck ... he did not live long enough to even consider putting out with Clarke an edited or updated version of 2001.
    2746) Message boards : Politics : Myths and Realities (Message 1663850)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, but I would say there's at least a 3rd and 4th option.

    ... it grants success to smart work.


    It also grants success to luck in the sense of inheritance (among other things) and luck mixed with hard work and smart work.

    Example: George Lucas had the luck to live long enough for CGI to be developed so he could go back and add special effects to his original trilogy of Star Wars movies. In that luck, hr was able to get lots of people to watch them again at the theaters and sell new versions on VHS and DVD. It also served as hype to get people interested for the next installment of trilogies.
    2747) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663848)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So what benchmark do you use to judge the value or worthiness of a 'culture'?


    By How Much My Living Abode SHAKES and VIBRATES when a Neighbor Pulls Up across the street.

    Like earlier today. I Hear the BOOMING, look out my window, Steadying Myself against the Vibrating Frame, and there, Lo and Behold, the Cultural Equivalent of OBlabby's Sons of Hope and Change.

    They HOPE, their NOISE, will CHANGE my Abode to A Pile of Rubble, by Shaking and Vibrating 'It', Every Chance 'dey' Get.

    I Know How Some Feel, when 'They' 'Decide' to RUN AWAY.

    'Is' Dat 'Evidence' Enuf, Prof, 'bout what 'Race' I am?

    Yep.


    Nope.
    Nope. Not at all.
    I dislike most of the music publicly heard of the style you are obviously referring to and I've heard of it come from the tin foil cars of Whites and Hispanics as well, from teens to their 40s.
    If Cliff Harding said he dislikes rao, hip-hop or modern R&B (not the R n B of, say, BB King), would that make him white? Or just of an earlier generation?

    Besides, if the sun really shines on you so much, move to the mountains and get away from the noise. Simple. Quit yer whining.

    Anywho, interesting how you dodged the primary question.
    2748) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663730)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, if we were talking pigmentations, I would say ethnicity. There is only one race, the human race. "Race" for these matter is taxonomically incorrect.
    2749) Message boards : Politics : Myths and Realities (Message 1663677)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Second of all, you just called 1890's Germany 'socialist'. 1890's Germany was conservative. It enacted some social reform, implemented a few measures that could be described as socialist, but those were introduced by conservatives for the sake of robbing actual socialist movements of momentum.


    She has been told this numerous times and still refuses to accept it. I find her attempts to counter the claim to be unconvincing. I have a half-baked theory that it comes from Ayn Rand's false dichotomy that back in the 1930s, Europe was choosing between fascism or socialism as if democracy/capitalism was an unknown or forgotten choice to them. I have found several websites claiming fascism and socialism are the same. Ask people that grew up in the 40s and 50s (or their parents) and I doubt most in the US would say the same.
    2750) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1663643)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well said MajorKong. Yes, real Libertarians do not consider themselves part of the Grand Old Party (Republican), nor do they support a tax-and-spend gov't like the Democratic party seems to.

    Should we call those Libertarians in the Republican party LINOs? :-P


    Unfortunately, it seems the Republicans instead borrow (from China, for one) and spend, right? Doing a web search before finishing this post, I see I am not the only one using the phrase. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/10/13/borrow_and_spend_conservatism/


    Borrow-and-spend is the same as tax-and-spend in all respects except that in borrow-and-spend the taxes are collected in the future, not the present, and also an interest charge is incurred therefore increasing the amount of taxes needed.

    Other than that, they are totally equivalent.

    Besides, 'borrow-and-spend' is what the BOTH of the major parties in Washington DC do... witness the growth of the national debt.

    BOTH the Democrats AND the Republicans will tax what they think they can get away with, then borrow the remainder needed to spend at the level they wish.


    I recently paid off a credit card and will never do business with them again.
    To paraphrase my fiscally conservative father, and I'm sure other heard similarly, don't borrow what you can't afford to pay back.
    So, it is stunning to see Republicans borrow.
    How will the taxes be collected in the future when they do so little to raise taxes?
    Guess we can expect to see some more bridges collapsing, right?
    2751) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663640)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You say you're white, but we really have no evidence of that.

    WHAT!
    Do we need to prove evidence of our ethnic heritage to discuss here?


    Your misconstruing of my post is once again ridiculous and I once again urge you to put me on ignore. I am not going to take your false implications against me, whether it is due to your emotions running high or a poorly functioning translator,
    2752) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1663367)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well said MajorKong. Yes, real Libertarians do not consider themselves part of the Grand Old Party (Republican), nor do they support a tax-and-spend gov't like the Democratic party seems to.

    Should we call those Libertarians in the Republican party LINOs? :-P


    Unfortunately, it seems the Republicans instead borrow (from China, for one) and spend, right? Doing a web search before finishing this post, I see I am not the only one using the phrase. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/10/13/borrow_and_spend_conservatism/
    2753) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663358)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Every Brainiac and Dumb Dumb Dumb as Box of Rocks person As I Am Knows, if All Peoples are Vanilla, or All Chocolate, All Beautiful Face, All Healthy Perfect Physical Specimens, ALL Equal Opportunities, and ALL Else Same, GOoD, and Right,

    We Will Be Bad, Do Bad, Discriminate, Prejudate, Biasdate, Agendadate, Stratify, Classify, Hate, Dislike, Go To PM Land,

    and Generally Do What HuWoMan Do,

    NO MATTER WHAT LAWS and PUNISHMENTS.

    So, Racism, What's The Biggie.

    Oh, I Know, I'm White and Have to DEAL LESS with HuWoMan Nature.

    Life 'is' So GOoD to Me cause I'm White.

    Empirical Academic Studies Say: I Gots 'it' Made In Da Shade.

    Yep.


    You say you're white, but we really have no evidence of that.
    While we're at it, speak honestly: on what basis do you think people are afraid to criticize Obama (a claim which I have provided just a little evidence for but can find you more)? Are you claiming it is fear due to be viewed as racist? Or something else?
    2754) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663357)
    Posted 10 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He said he thought I was Mexican and told me he was.


    Interesting. Many moons ago, when I used to work retail, I had a similar experience while working the electronics booth. Happened on more than one occasion too. Latinos would come up to me and start speaking in Spanish, and when I looked confused they would say, "?Se hablas Espanol?". I learned to say "Se um pouco".

    And no, I'm not of Latin/Hispanic descent at all. I'm probably whiter than Casper.


    All I can say is I can tan reasonably well in the summer. One might suspect Italian ancestry at those times and, if one did, I would not be surprised. I wonder if my Germanic ancestors were from the southern part of Germany, getting closer to Italy? Any way, by, say, October, the tan is quite gone.
    2755) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1663086)
    Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps raising wages slow down job growth because the ones that create the jobs are sad they have a few less pennies. They want to take their ball and go home. Give me a mathematical proof it must occur this way. Don't throw me something like the Laffer Curve. I believe that was created as "this is the way things ought to be".

    "Voter ID". Look at my picture on the left. Look hard. Do I look Mexican to you? If no, good, you can tell I am of English, Irish and German descent.

    But I live around several Hispanics or Latinos or whatever the correct term. Close to Christmas 2013 or so, I had a Mexican guy ask me to sing "Feliz Navidad" with him at karaoke. I said, "I don't know Spanish." He was shocked. He said he thought I was Mexican and told me he was.

    Inspired by that, along with the Voter ID laws here, I taunted people over seeing the fall 2014 election. I provided several pieces of supporting documents, along with a picture ID. But not a driver's license. Then I asked, "Do I look Mexican?" (Guy next to me said, "No, but if you were, we'd have to let you vote even if you were an illegal immigrant." What a bunch of unsubstantiated crap.)
    2756) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1663068)
    Posted 9 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hail Thor!
    (Signed, me: putting Saturn back in Saturnalia since 33 A.C.E.)
    2757) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1662615)
    Posted 8 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gentlepersons:

    We do have a thread to talk about racism.

    I'm sure the OP doesn't mind while it is related to OBLABBY but you seem to be wandering away from him.


    Thanks, Gary. Actually, I do mind. It is not about race at all in this thread, it is about Dull's assertion that no one will argue against Obama when in fact plenty of libs have. (For those who do not know who I mean by "Dull" or think I am insulting someone, it is part of a poster's former screen name. His screen names now stretch the screen.)

    P.S.-wish I had seen Cliff's post before responding to Gary. I think Cliff's post has comments relevant to this thread and the racism thread.
    2758) Message boards : Politics : PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY (Message 1662154)
    Posted 7 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly, he means Obama.

    So, both Obama himself and Jon Stewart slay Obama in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViLWT1Xz--E.

    Young Turks cry tears over their disappointing lib Prez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRlfyR4v0rE.

    Got being wrong, Dull? YEP! ;)
    2759) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1662152)
    Posted 7 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the offer but no thanks, e-readers are for 21C nerds. I have just bought the paperback for £8 on Amazon. You will hear further when I have read it.

    So, you're glasses are strong enough? I found mine were not up to the challenge of the very small print in an old printing of the "FOundation" trilogy.

    You should get an ereader. You can change the font size.


    Es: I read most of the rest of the series, and the robot series via kindle plus a few other books since then.

    Chris: thus, it is not a matter of trying to be trendy.

    Steve: I am in your court, but some small concerns. How many of us know the ancient languages besides, perhaps, Latin? If we don't, it is hard to verify for ourselves the claims in the scholarship of others on this matter. Also, though I'm sure it would only hold out small hope, but what about some other accounts that did not survive or have survived but have not been found yet?

    Jim: so, either Jesus (Christ) existed, dying around approximately 26 or 33 A.D., or he didn't. If Steve's summary is correct, nonetheless, a story begun to be spread sometime between approximately 46 and 63 A.D. Your point just indicates a story (true or not) had at least approximately 60 years to spread and gain some believers. Thus, Christians existed. That still doesn't answer whether their beliefs were correct or not.
    2760) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1662099)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the offer but no thanks, e-readers are for 21C nerds. I have just bought the paperback for £8 on Amazon. You will hear further when I have read it.

    So, you're glasses are strong enough? I found mine were not up to the challenge of the very small print in an old printing of the "FOundation" trilogy.
    2761) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1662022)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those contemporary accounts, outside the Bible, were ... ?

    Non biblical evidence

    User 1 makes several posts a day and User 2 a few a week. User 1 replies to nearly everything User 2 says, usually in a rude manner. User 2 puts User 1 on ignore. Which one is the stalker? (Hint: go with the smaller number.)

    User 1 is likely a paid lobbyist for Youtube.


    Chris: is this link to combat Islam or written by Muslims? Muslim friends I had in grad school stated Jesus existed and died on the cross. But, until his second coming, is not YET the Messiah. (Never ever have I heard anyone claim Mohammed was a Messiah, only a prophet, unless it was an unlearned/misinformed Christian.)
    But, this raises another question: did Christians .just plagiarize and change Judaism, then Muslims plagiarized and changed both

    Clyde: Steve has provided his evidence, so what evidence do we have for no contemporaneous accounts of Alexander?
    2762) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1661971)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How 'is' 'Belief' of Invisible Man/Being/Entity In The Sky by 'Religions', Not Same as 'Believing' , Invisible Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence, In The Same Sky? You Know, Up There, and Out There.

    You can't equate belief in God with belief that there could be intelligent life in the universe capable of sending signals.


    Why leave it at this?
    Like many things, the brush is broad, distorting reality.
    The Matrix of Gary we need, or falsity in this thread shall bleed and bleed and bleed.
    How many dimensions will Gary see, for there are at least three!
    One, those that believe ETIs exist, believe be! (Yes, neutral or no?)
    Two, those that think SETI@Home or something similar shall find the signals, believe be! (Yes, neutral or no?)
    Three, Justin Bieber is a reincarnation of a Monkee, now I'm a belieber! (Yes, neutral or no?)

    There are certainly fundamentalists running this who hope we never find signals, because then God will have to send Ransom to Perelandra and, my, what a lot of work that would be!

    There are certainly those that believe in ETs but not ETIs that expect we shall never find a signal.

    And so on.

    Use a broad enough brush, distort what it is to believe.

    The painter, a worm of Darwin's, he be!
    2763) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1661967)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [There was a man called Jesus, who was crucified for his beliefs about 2000 years ago. We know that to be true from enough contemporary accounts that have survived from the time.


    Those contemporary accounts, outside the Bible, were ... ?
    2764) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1661906)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Round and Round. Before too Long I Hit the Ground. Circle meet Circle. Hi!

    Now We Have A Point!

    I Exist and 'Prove' Non-Existence, by 'Proving' I Don't Exist.

    The Numbers 'Told' Me So. For 'They' Speak'. What did 'They' 'Say'?

    G O D. The Letters 'Appeared' Out of Nowhere.

    From Somewhere, Out There.

    The More Science Founded and 'Funded', The More 'is' 'Found'.

    Until We 'Create' Existence' of All We Have Looked For.

    What Fun!

    All We Have Questioned.

    'It' Seems Miraculously True.

    We Can Make You, Believe In Me, Believe In You.

    Whooo Hooooo!

    Yep.

    That's pretty good. Did you write that yourself?


    LOL! Pretty sure I could've written that at 15, particularly considering a popular song of the time. Got been de-funded? Yep!

    Truth -
    "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said.
    Falsehood -
    is what we keep getting fed.
    I will offer up
    a fight until I'm dead.
    No, I won't swallow it -
    hook, line & sinker.


    Me.
    2765) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1661870)
    Posted 6 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is easier to say that "all squares are rectangles" but, strangely, some do not fully understand what that means, let alone how to prove it, simply from (the simplest stated) definitions. Nonetheless, proofs of non-existence of non-trivial things (to the mathematician) are indeed performed. A (57,14,1) strongly regular graph does not exist.
    2766) Message boards : Politics : Monotheism (Message 1661853)
    Posted 5 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GOD Can't Prove 'Its' Existence? Homo Sapiens Sapiens Cannot Prove 'Its' Existence.

    How Can We Prove Our Existence? We Can't Prove 'it' To Ourselves. We Can Prove 'things' Exist to Ourselves. I'm holding a rock in my hand, and hit you with the rock, you say ouch and bleed. We Can't Prove We Exist to Each Other.

    How 'is' 'it' Done. By hitting Each Other with a Rock? By Saying Hi, How Ya Doin'?

    We Have to Be Proved to Some 'Thing' Else, to Be Real.

    When ETI Meets Up Face to Face with Homo Sapiens Sapiens, then A 'Possible' 'Proof' is Probable.

    Until there 'is' Proof of Us, 'We' Do Not Exist. GOD does Not Exist. ETI does Not Exist.

    Yep

    Cogito ergo sum


    1) There is nothing in proving that involves one thing being proved by something different; e.g., the President of the USA from 1980-1988 was Ronald Reagan. Proof: by example and history books. Proved by a man, about a man.
    2) In some ways, yes, you can prove a negative. "Prove, in Euclidean geometry, there is no square that is not a rectangle." Of course, Es' first post to me in 2006 addresses how proof in math is different from pretty much everything else.
    3) Of course Lutherans have peacefully spoken with Catholics, as well as Episcopalians! I was present for several ecumenical activities in the mid-70s and perhaps part of the 80s. One was at a large cathedral in NYC.
    2767) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1661274)
    Posted 4 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do people insist on such quick responses?

    Their knee jerks?

    Or they're elbow jerks? You know, bend the elbow, work out by lifting a pint, then post tirades? :)
    2768) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1661238)
    Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do people insist on such quick responses?

    Their knee jerks?


    "True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing." - Socrates

    Thus, one claiming to have all the answers and to use the Socratic method cannot be the same person.
    2769) Message boards : Politics : GOod GOodly MOogly.*** U.S. Embassy in ***Yemen ***Oh Heeba Habba GOoba Gabba (Message 1661226)
    Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Would these, Now Dead Christians, be Dead 'cause PeacePrizin'DroneHitManHustlin'Hussein 'feels' and 'Decides', Interrogating Bad, Drone Strikin' GOoD?


    I think those Christians would be dead one way or another. Islamic Terrorists are bent on killing all other religions or subjugating and converting their followers. Including other sects of Islam.

    They are brutal, sadistic, mad animals and I have NO problem with ANY drone target so far.

    Colorado does good work.


    Need some steel for dem der drones?
    2770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ‘X-Files’ officially returning to Fox in Summer 2015 (Message 1661224)
    Posted 3 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closing track for the 1998 film: Noel Gallagher - Teotihuacan

    Are you a STALKER?

    And now it is clear, you really know how to kill a thread.
    2771) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : CERN (Message 1660477)
    Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Update:

    http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2015/04/cern-researchers-confirm-existence-force

    CERN announced today the first unequivocal evidence for the Force. “Very impressive, this result is,” said a diminutive green spokesperson for the laboratory.
    (?)

    April fool


    Thanx Bernie!


    Yoda.
    2772) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1660474)
    Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Typical. Had good intelligent debate going on and then .... now people are intentionally talking past each other.

    Don't take the bait!


    As for others, it's hard to even read through the nearly 50 to 100 posts since last reading. Why do people insist on such quick responses?
    2773) Message boards : Politics : Forms of Government (Message 1660469)
    Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I suggest everyone stop defending or trying to argue with this made up nonsense.Totally false BS.

    What? A moderator using obscene language?
    We all know what BS is.
    Ok?
    And don't give me some bull that I don't know US idioms that are infecting the civilized World know!
    Ok?
    Stop your nonsense!

    Buttered Squash?

    Don't worry, we know why he's (Person 1) whining.
    And someone else sure sounds like a third person, so I hope if Person 2 = Person 3, maybe he's not taking Alinsky's high road?
    2774) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1660265)
    Posted 1 Apr 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    April Fools, pre thorsday.


    May we be able to put Thor back into Thor's Day and end the pagan April Fool's practice, right? :)
    2775) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1659577)
    Posted 31 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The independent responds when someone says something demonstrably incorrect about the woman. But, you'll never understand why, that some of us prefer to get to the truth regardless of which party someone represents.

    OzzFan, remember that tune, "Never Know Why"?
    2776) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1659530)
    Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]
    You do understand, that any silly comment against me, from a handful of Posters:
    
    Is taken as a compliment.

    Clyde Sarge's comment was not silly, your perception of reality I find to be weird.

    As Einstein said. Everything is...

    You find one way. I another.

    Just happens, I am correct.

    :) :) :)

    I applaud your very convincing argument, quite excellent.[/quote



    So, besides one person with an interesting definition of "thinking", now when someone speaks like Sarah Palin, it is called "silly"? Fine, shall we fine (sic; was supposed to be "find") several videos of her speaking in much the same way? It is easily done.


    Exhibit 1. It'd be a lot easier to follow if she'd said from the start, this ru;e change is a distraction and it stinks. But, she waxed "eloquently" about what would be discussed at the Thanksgiving Dinner table for several seconds in between.

    Exhibit 2. Is energy independence a matter of prosperity and security? Sure, but she's just jumping all over the place from 0:40-0:55! Beginning at about 2:00, why is she addressing being an outsider rather than slaying her critics???

    Exhibit 3. She went from "wage equality" to vegan eating practices and Purgatory? What the heck?
    2777) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1659427)
    Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You do understand, that any silly comment against me, from a handful of Posters:
    
    Is taken as a compliment.

    Clyde Sarge's comment was not silly, your perception of reality I find to be weird.

    As Einstein said. Everything is...

    You find one way. I another.

    Just happens, I am correct.

    :) :) :)

    I applaud your very convincing argument, quite excellent.


    So, besides one person with an interesting definition of "thinking", now when someone speaks like Sarah Palin, it is called "silly"? Fine, shall we fine several videos of her speaking in much the same way? It is easily done. THAT, Mr. Extremist trying to paint someone as a Leftist (ha ha ha ha ha ha!) is what forms a convincing argument.
    (If only the message board coders would hide not only the posts of the hidden, but replies made to the hidden, then we could have the hidden living deeper within their bubbles ... their echo chambers.)

    P.S.-that you thought the original comment was someone how directed at you is ... sad. I'm so sorry you are obsessed with my comments. PLEASE, you also, PUT ME ON IGNORE!!!
    2778) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1659423)
    Posted 30 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A revolt is growing as more people refuse to pay back student loans
    I'd like to see more people refusing to pay these loans back. Student debt is a big problem in American and Canada, and is getting that way in the UK.

    An educated populace is a foundation stone to a functioning democracy, I suspect anyone who wants to throw barriers in the way of people becoming educated. Universities should be, if not free, then at the very least affordable.

    But granting the discharges could mean the loss of billions of dollars in taxpayer money and set a precedent for future requests for loan forgiveness.

    Another fine mess the taxpayer will have to pay for, or the taxpayer's children and grand children.

    Because the scheme was set up stupid to begin with. That is what happens when you try to apply free-market ideas to something that absolutely should be in the public sector such as education.

    The idea of for-profit schools and universities is so obviously idiotic and open to abuse.


    I am, and will continue to, pay for mine. Affordability is key.
    However, I will soon be filling these forms out: Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF)
    2779) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658979)
    Posted 29 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NO, it's the ignore button that keeps that anarchist under control.

    And It should result in that ignored person disappearing from the world view entirely. That is the real problem here, not the politics forum.


    It should, but it doesn't. Indeed, it is a coding flaw pointed out years ago.
    2780) Message boards : Politics : Close the Politics Forum? (Message 1658434)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spend a little time on World Community Grid and you will find out how boring this place will become if you don't allow politics. I think most of not all users understand if you don't want a bloody nose you don't post in politics. Even in politics you need to stay on topic so it's possible to post in politics without getting into a argument you don't want. This is the only open thread board I post on and it will be greatly missed by me if it is shut down. Something not measured is there are many people who read our post without ever posting. The way I know this is every once in a while a person make their first post and they understand far more than a first time poster should. There has to be a reason why SETi seems to have more computer power than other Boinc boards and I think this s part of it.

    The other point is the people who post on this board are well educated even if it's self educated. They want to explore ideas with other educated people that are beyond the limits of the Cafe. SETI has kind of a natural filter along with the mods that keep the anarchist out or at least under control.


    NO, it's the ignore button that keeps that anarchist under control.
    2781) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1658432)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Amazing how people denigrate Sarah Palin, and remain strangely silent about the ignorance and stupidity of Barack Hussein Obama that she warned us about.

    Oh, that's right, she's a white, conservative woman who believes in the constitution AND thinks so is therefore evil.

    The thought of Russia trying to retake Alaska is in and by itself just idiotic. So if thats why people give Palin a hard time, its because they have a good reason for it.

    But honestly, every time that women gives a speech all you get is a garbled mess of words that don't even form coherent sentences. That women could have had a stroke and no one has noticed. I think thats why people make fun of her instead.


    And the neutrality ... of the health care ... that is so important for the gun rights of our children!
    2782) Message boards : Politics : Russia in the 21C (Message 1658424)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First, I admit I haven't read every post in this thread. But I did read about the possibility that the Russian leadership might be entertaining thoughts of retaking Alaska

    Thank god for that! Perhaps they could send Sarah Palin to the Siberian salt mines :-))

    Amazing how people denigrate Sarah Palin, and remain strangely silent about the ignorance and stupidity of Barack Hussein Obama that she warned us about.

    Oh, that's right, she's a white, conservative woman who believes in the constitution AND thinks so is therefore evil.


    You appear to have an interesting definition of "thinking".
    2783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ‘X-Files’ officially returning to Fox in Summer 2015 (Message 1658423)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Their back :-)

    It’s been more than 13 years since “The X-Files” aired on network TV, but on Tuesday Fox announced the spooky sci-fi series is returning for a six-episode run that will begin in the summer of 2015.

    “The X-Files,” which originally premiered in Sept. 1993, aired for nine seasons and earned 16 Emmy nominations during its run. The series centered on FBI agents Scully, played by Gillian Anderson, and Mulder, played by David Duchovny. Both stars will be reprising their roles for the reboot.

    So can others like Fringe ever hope to be resurrected?


    Good one Vic!

    Fringe is on the SCIence channel, Friday @ midnight pacific time to 2am on Saturday. Thanks Julie.

    I missed Fringe, it's a very well made show, FOX was nuts, ending the show after 100 episodes. The late Leonard Nimoy was on tonight as Mr Bell.


    Have you heard the soundtrack for "Fight the Future"? Pretty good stuff, considering how quickly 90s alternative became cookie-cutter.
    2784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 234 The number was 708, TL wins! (Message 1658195)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning win.

    Good morning, Mike!
    2785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link #80 (Message 1658194)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Columbia

    Coffee!
    2786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ‘X-Files’ officially returning to Fox in Summer 2015 (Message 1658179)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closing track for the 1998 film: Noel Gallagher - Teotihuacan
    2787) Message boards : Politics : US versus Europe The nice version (Message 1658178)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice version? Admit it, you hate the USA and everything about it except possibly one person. ;) CHEERS!
    2788) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1658177)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people


    If that rule were upheld as strictly as you interpret it, there would be no politics forum. I do believe the post at the top of this forum says the rules a bit more relaxed here - meaning not so strictly interpreted.


    Sometimes demonstrating absurdity by being absurd is all THEY understand, right?
    2789) Message boards : Politics : Extradition policies (Message 1658175)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still haven't put me ignore? Interesting. It reveals much about you and a lot of people are talking about it in PM land. Still trying to WEASEL your way out of admitting what you said? WE know your tactics.
    2790) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1658056)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]

    Note to those stating, in the PM's, I should not respond to Es99's stupid attacks: Sometimes it is a slow day :)

    ...
    Oh, so your inbox has been over run with them too.


    I get them, too, usually from Es99. :)
    2791) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? II (Message 1658040)
    Posted 28 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is what humanity is capable of:

    forgiveness and reconciliation, the Spirit of Enniskillen

    Gordon Wilson lived very much on this planet.

    "I bear no ill will. I bear no grudge"

    Very powerful.

    No "ill will" against those who have Brutally Raped and Murdered YOUR Infant Child?

    After that has happened to YOUR Child: Then, and only then, will you have any real understanding.

    Or will you still have Empathy FOR this vile and evil person, who has slaughtered YOUR Child.

    Well if my child had been raped or sexually assaulted I would hardly publicly announce it would I? There is too much shame and stigma associated with it.

    So your demand that anyone with a child who had been through that should use such a horrific event to make a point on the internet is more than silly. It is not one that people would be willing to admit to for the sake of the child who has to live with something like that for the rest of their lives and doesn't deserve to have it posted all over the internet.

    How do you expect people to respond to your statement Clyde? The fact that you made it shows that you don't even have empathy for the parents of victims.


    HIS way of Thinking is the Result of having grown up in an Ivory Tower. Even his Former Profession could NOT make a Dent on such an INGRAINED Way of Thinking.
    2792) Message boards : Politics : Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion along with one other charge. (Message 1657565)
    Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This has quietly slipped into the news. I found it by accident while checking an online weather report.
    http://abcnews.go.com/international/bowe-bergdahl-charged-desertion-lawyer/story?id=29901602


    You have an interesting definition of "quietly".
    2793) Message boards : Politics : Extradition policies (Message 1657564)
    Posted 27 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Italy is the country that recently found geologists guilty, in a court of law, for not being able to adequately predict an earthquake and warn citizens of a town to evacuate in time.
    Sad, considering the country's intellectual history.
    But, to adhere to the wacky system they have now? No way in the fictional place below the Earth the Swedish guy told me to go to.
    2794) Message boards : Politics : CommunistOrganizerHustlin'Hussein Vs NukeWhackin'Bibi (Message 1656324)
    Posted 24 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These posts are off topic. They should be put into a separate thread. Let us also not forget a small dog's attempt to obfuscate a flame.
    2795) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1655316)
    Posted 21 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If a woman goes to a groggery and picks up Thor, then Thor picks up his hammer, did the woman therefore pick up the hammer?
    2796) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1654361)
    Posted 19 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am now properly prepared to face Thor's day and I look forward to it.
    Hail Thor

    +1! Pray tell, your method of preparation?
    2797) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the Designer! #3 (Message 1654311)
    Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dearest Thor, I beseech Thee, teacheth me thy Sophistic Method. For Loki, he is ... .
    Ah, never mindeth.
    2798) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1654284)
    Posted 18 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And others. ;)
    Make them smile.
    Be their slave.
    Sha, right. As if. And monkeys might fly outta yer butt, too~ ;)
    Guess someone wants to "control the boards".
    2799) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1653729)
    Posted 17 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am so surprised there is so much contention in this thread...and as someone who knows fairly little about cryptography I am totally baffled.

    I would really appreciate it if someone can explain to me what the contention actually is.

    All I see is Glenn claiming that the virtual currencies depend on cryptography (which seems obvious to me, what am I not understanding?) and then other people saying no, it doesn't.

    Then there is some serious nitpicking about the dates the engima machine was used...well surely that information is easily checked?

    So I would really appreciate a potted summary of the issues here (not from someone invested heavily on either side of the debate) so that I can follow the thread a little better.


    Glenn was not at all clear in his post, to which I responded first I guess.
    If I was not the first, then I suggest earlier posts be moved in here as well.
    I guess Glenn's cannot be since he was also addressing racism in that post and that part was on topic for that thread.
    I am also unclear as to why Sirius B is listed as the thread originator. I though I had noticed in the past that when a mod separates a thread into two threads, that mods name was listed as thread originator. Was this not the case?

    I have seen some people tell Glenn to get on topic. Well, sorry, he wasn't clear about it, but his topic is virtual currency. As far as I can tell, Gary has explained it well and he has explained it's relation to encoding and decoding. Thus, the discussion of Enigma or things similar is still at least somewhat on topic.

    Finally, to Glenn, I will say this: nothing I have said on this topic has been a smart aleck remark. You seem to be upset that I am acting as if I know more than you. No. I know differently from you. Your education and experiences are not mine and vice versa. Since the more general topic of making and breaking codes has played a small part of my education, yes, I do have a right to speak about it.
    2800) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1653090)
    Posted 15 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since infinitely many private keys can be made, no government could possess them all.

    Nonsense!
    My source is this but it's in Postscript format so I will explain later if some wants to.
    •Paper by Ravi Ganesan and Alan T. Sherman: Statistical Techniques for Language Recognition
    http://www.cs.umbc.edu/pub/REPORTS/cs-93-02.ps


    http://www.sans.org/reading-room/whitepapers/vpns/prime-numbers-public-key-cryptography-969. Primes (numerical or polynomial) are heavily relied upon in the creation of keys. http://primes.utm.edu/notes/proofs/infinite/euclids.html 2300 or was so, Euclid proved there are infinitely many primes.
    2801) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1652998)
    Posted 14 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since infinitely many private keys can be made, no government could possess them all.
    2802) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1652996)
    Posted 14 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge you might wish to look up your history books about the enigma machine . You may think it was just some clumsy machine but it was not and why England nearly lost the war .
    Also i do know a fear bit about code breaking and encryption in fact i use a code breaking program called the Bible code .
    so i do know what public and private keys are . Did you know the government has the keys to get into most encyption programs i even heard that it was some sort of law in your country but not shore and would not surprise me .
    You have herd of the computer the Brits had in ww2 to break the codes but they still needed the enigma machine to see exactly how they did it .
    Also if coding is not inportant then what did the U.S do to stop the Japs from breaking there codes seeing as you think you know more than me on this as for your code mate can't be bothered but i to can play that game and i bet you wont be able to figure out any code i put up so i would not try and be a smart alex .
    You Americans have stuffed up with crypto and it's not just me that know this your own military also know it ask any of your generals at the pentagon


    You have completely misrepresented my response to you.

    And I will say again, I took a class with one of those on the team that cracked Enigma. The probability that it's my errors is small.

    http://www.ams.org/notices/201111/rtx111101538p.pdf
    2803) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1650693)
    Posted 8 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michel, as of 1812, the land we had still wasn't much more than the coastal areas anyway.
    James, putting your point together with Michel's, it's apples and oranges. We now span (east-west) the continent. We didn't back then.

    Well, look at a map of that time and you'll see the US consisted of a bit more than just those coastal areas. And that aside, the coastal area itself is pretty huge.

    In any case, my point still stands. The 2nd amendment doesn't deter nations from invading the US, the sheer size of territory that would need to be conquered, raw military power of the US army and the impossible logistics involved with such an invasion do.


    You will notice the "not much more than" qualifier.
    You will also note that in what at the time was a recent acquirement (about 8 years before), land size versus population density would tell very different stories.
    2804) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650529)
    Posted 8 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, it's academia that's quibbling. You've removed the US & UK, so let's remove Libya & Ethiopa. Next question.

    You are entitled to your belief. I suggest you start a thread called "I Believe Academics are Rich and Research Just Lines Their Pockets while Producing Nothing Useful." Let's see what you find out about the "truism".
    2805) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650224)
    Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201209/37-quotes-power
    2806) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650223)
    Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2013/07/how-power-corrupts/
    2807) Message boards : Politics : Codes & Cyphers (Message 1650173)
    Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary I will talk your comment as a apology . Thank you

    I am very peed of because I have been accused of being a racist because of the trouble I had with my nabour whom I tried to help in many way for over 18 months before I said enough is enough she is black trailer trash . she happened to of been Koori(aborignal)
    I am not a racist to for you Americans to come out and call me a racist when you make comment like what was said on 2 broke girls has realy peed me off as well as the crypto thing aka me calling Americans traitors .

    just so you all understand even thou this is the rong thread I will explain why I'm peed of about crypto curries (namecoins)

    1941 German U boats sank 1600 supply ships and almost broke England at the time they had only 3 more months to stop the U boats sinking the supply ships .
    With a bit of luck and a very clever rues the Brits got a hold of the Enigma code machine the Germans where using and was able to stop the U boats as they knew where they where . Releasing crypto is one off the biggest mistakes you guys have done . so stop thinking we live in a Utopian world and stop the b/s about freedom as it's only a illusion your attitudes are fine in a Utopian world but not in these times . I just hope it doesn't cause a big problem
    after all if the brits did not get the Enigma machine they would have lost the war


    One of my professors from when I earned my Master's degree was one of those that worked on cracking Enigma.

    Glenn, I do not know why you are on about this. I think it shows you do not understand code making and code breaking very well.

    I may be oversimplifying, but Enigma was essentially just a very clever and many layered shift system. Shift systems existed as far back as Julius Caesar, if not earlier. See if you can decode the following:

    Hmfoo, ipx bsf zpv?

    If you want to know more about code making of the last 60-70 years, learn about public and private keys. RSA, NTRU and so on. Those that lack the private keys will generally have a tough time to fail due to the extreme computational difficulty and time involved to determine whether a large number is prime, or the product of two very large primes, and so on ... .
    2808) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650169)
    Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No I wouldn't want to waste time & money on getting that "truism" tested. We drive one way, the US drives another.

    To put it your way, who's to say that driving on the right is much better than driving on the left & vice versa?


    You're quibbling or parsing.
    Let's make it sound better for your end, by completely removing the UK and US (let alone that my post had nothing to do with which side the steering wheel is on or on which side of the roads we drive).

    "The Libyan system of k-12 education is better than the Ethipian K-12 education system. Specifically, we do X and the result is this very great Y!" Certainly, people in Ethiopia are going to want to look closely at Libya's results and also test is on small scales in Ethiopia if it looks good to begin with, then larger and larger scales over time. Why would they just turn their entire system over to another method, just on someone's say so?
    2809) Message boards : Politics : Racist? [yes you are] (Message 1650163)
    Posted 7 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This small town

    Image snipped to avoid thread lengthening.

    Library of Congress is a great place for info.


    Visiting is even better.
    My father lived there for 1.5 years. Upon retiring, he's now back close by, about 30 miles away. I was there a little over a year ago, though I didn't go to the battle field this time.
    2810) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650099)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Authority is needed but what happens when that authority itself is corrupt?

    Doesn't matter. Bussines as usual.

    So it comes back to what I said earlier...
    "Why the need for experiments or studies?"

    To see how common this is.

    & here's me thinking it was just academia justifying their existence :-)


    If I claimed "US citizens drive more safely than do those of the UK" and claimed it was a "truism", would you not want the truism tested? If it were indeed true, perhaps driver ed programs in the UK could be modified to reflect what's done here in the US. You wouldn't want UK driver ed programs modified to reflect our model if it turned out there was no difference or, worse, that we drive a lot less safely, would you? (Note: I do not claim they do drive better, see previous side notes.)
    2811) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1650070)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats not true. the Us wa invaded in by the Brits in the was of 1812. They did burn down the white house. Plus I seem to somewhat remember that todo in New Orleans With Andrew Jackson.
    Also dont forget that the Japnenese invaded Wake Island,Guam, Attu, And Kiska. All U.S. possesions at the time.
    And do not discount our Northen neighbors. Canada has bloodied our nose twice that I know of. Once during our Revolution, And once after our cival war.
    And yes it helps to have a big ass ocean on both sides.

    Well, for one, it werent the British that begun the war in 1812, America declared war first and invaded Canada. It took the British 2 years before they were able to launch an offensive against the US and they never came close to conquering the US. All they did was capture some coastal areas, marched against certain cities and they were defeated by the American military. The 2nd Amendment did not play such a massive role.

    As for capturing those islands, well if you count that as US territory than yes, I suppose the US has been successfully invaded. Which then just goes to show that no, the 2nd amendment again did not deter nor defeat an enemy invasion into US territory.


    Michel, as of 1812, the land we had still wasn't much more than the coastal areas anyway.
    James, putting your point together with Michel's, it's apples and oranges. We now span (east-west) the continent. We didn't back then.
    2812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim Hunt/Captain Avatar (Message 1650066)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RIP Tim my friend. As long as I have my Fruit Bat avatar I will remember you.

    He made a pic of my face set on Worf's neck. Now that I nearly have the hair length, it would work better. I have no idea where that old file might be hiding.
    2813) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1650021)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If an experiment cannot be replicated, under the same/similar conditions, with the same/similar result(s), it's rejected or retracted. I'd go so far as to say possibly unscientific.

    Psychologists and sociologists have worked hard to be careful about this, even when applying quantitative research, looking for events that can be triangulated to make qualitative research a scientifically based method as well.

    The problem with replicating Zimbardo's research now would be that is has been well-publicized. Besides the problem with participants knowing they're part of an experiment, now, they'd even know the expected results!

    The brake light issue is a side-note, so please do not spend too much time on it.
    Nonetheless, I will say I will look up the reference to what was said in my textbook.
    The point was novelty also has an effect on experiments which may lead to things that will not occur in everyday life.
    As for it being the norm, Gary, I'd saying it is becoming more and more of a norm. Decades ago, when we had the national speed limit of 55 mph, it was simple physics. Leave 4 seconds worth of space between. Now, we have people who think they heard 2 or 3 seconds from their high school driver education teachers, or want to believe that, or idiot driver ed teachers. Plus, the drivers who just don't care and act as selfish maniacs.

    P.S.-even if there are no flaws to ZImbardo's research, he's not a god.
    2814) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649936)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.apa.org/research/action/brake.aspx

    Flashing lights, honking horns, meandering pedestrians, fighting kids in the back seat — a driver's attention is spread thin, which is one reason car accidents are so commonplace. In 1974, psychologist John Voevodsky, PhD, tested a small, inexpensive gadget that would eventually make U.S. highways much safer. The gadget was a third brake light, mounted in the base of rear windshields so that when drivers pressed their brakes, a triangle of light warned following drivers to slow down.

    To test whether such a small addition would make a significant difference, Voevodsky equipped 343 San Francisco taxicabs with the third brake light and left 160 taxis with no additional light as a control group. Taxi dispatchers then randomly assigned taxi drivers to taxis with or without the third light, regardless of drivers' expressed preferences. At the end of a 10-month experiment, taxis with a third brake light had suffered 60.6 percent fewer rear-end collisions than had the control-group taxis. Additionally, drivers of taxis with the third brake light that were struck in the rear by other vehicles were injured 61.1 percent less often than were drivers of taxis without the light, and repairs to all taxis with the light cost 61.8 percent less than did repairs to taxis without the light.


    Now that third brake lights are commonplace, the novelty has worn off and I have read in a textbook that the percent of collisions reduced is much lower than in the experiement.
    2815) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649924)
    Posted 6 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you are paying people for a study I think you have allready tainted the study.


    I didn't say they were paid. They may have been. Or received some other sort of compensation. If so, it does bring in another factor when analyzing the results. I think tainted may be too strong a word. As college students, the participants could have missed classes or some hours of part-time work. So, how do you convince people to take part otherwise?
    2816) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649746)
    Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now this thread are becoming ridiculous.
    I thought it was about ABSOLUTE POWER, not to find some "funny" one-liner to "impress" on the other SETI participants.
    That is to say that some people with authority has the ability to control over other people in a way that we normally would not do, and maybe even kill them because an authoritarian say so.
    Calling this experiment for an "experiment" is even more ridiculous.
    Because I've seen it for several decade ago and still remember it, I think that it might be the best social experiments ever made.

    Philip Zimbardo, the professor who conducted the infamous Stanford Prison Experiment in 1971, created this list of seven social processes that he believed were preconditions for people to become like monsters in some situations.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
    - To take the first step without seeing where this will lead (by extension)
    - To remove the human value from others.
    - Seeing himself as anonymous
    - To not see his own personal responsibility
    - To blindly obey authority
    - Uncritical adaptation to group norms
    - A passive tolerance "evil" by his inability to act, or inability to care about what is happening.

    Hmm. These points seems familiar to me especially in this forum :)
    - To remove the human value from others.
    - Seeing himself as anonymous
    - To not see his own personal responsibility
    - Uncritical adaptation to group norms

    btw lets introduce some alcohol into this experiment and forum and see whats happen. Maybe the three other points will be fullfilled:)

    Errare humanum est, ignoscere divinum

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority#Other_social_sciences


    Michel raises good points.
    I raised, in my opening post, the point that the guard found to be the most sadistic admitted (in the video I linked) to be very much into theater/movies at the time. In other words, perhaps he was acting rather than doing what he would naturally do.
    You raise the point of "uncritical adaptation to group norms", which was essentially a point raised in the video by saying "not one of the 'prisoners' spoke out against the cruelty."
    Is it not possible that knowing one was in an experiment altered their behavior and led to them not protesting, when otherwise they would? What compensation were the "guards" and "the prisoners" offered for taking part? Is there any chance that they were told, or nonetheless believed, that if they ended their participation early that their compensation would be reduced or cancelled?
    These, along with Michel's, are among several critical questions that can be asked. Perhaps they have been asked before, by experts, Zimbardo's colleagues. Watching videos, with their own agendas, can only provide so much of the information. It is my guess that more could be learned by actually looking at what Zimbardo has written and the professional critiques.
    As for "adding alcohol" to the forums, I suggest you take a look at the Cafe. the several threads authored by a banished user, and the responses to that poster.
    No one posting in this thread has any authority over this forum. That belongs to the project administrators at S@H of Berkeley. Through them, we have the moderators. Over several years, the administrators have worked hard with the mods to develop an approach to dealing with posters in a fair and balanced manner. Besides the poster I mentioned in the previous paragraph, that probably applies most to this portion of the forums, "Politics".
    If, by some chance, your comments were referring to me, I suggest that if all you got out of my last post was the "semi-humorous aside", then you did not read or did not understand the rest of the post. Nor was there any attempt to "impress" other posters.
    We are not devoid of responsibility here. If we cross a line, we risk having our post or posts hidden and, at worst, being banned for some period of time.
    Since we all seem to agree no one is perfect, then, yes, in heated debates we may unfortunately devalue others. You seem to me to be a good person, jannesti, but you also seem to me to be a person that does not recognize those that are most guilty of hiding behind their computers and devaluing others.
    2817) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1649463)
    Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As A Citizen of Only Country to Vaporize People by Exploding Burgers, I want to say...

    ...to da Ayattollahs: heeba habba, like a Coke and Fries wif dat?

    You Know, like, Last Meal Thingeee.

    From Sea To Burning Sea.

    Yep.


    LOL!


    Ayatollah, drink this special cola.
    Ayatollah, I made it just for you.

    Can't remember the rest of the words. Something lacing it with arsenic or something like that. :)
    2818) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649414)
    Posted 5 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, on about one-quarter to one-half the days after I leave campus, I head to a nearby convenience store which serves better coffee than Starbucks'. Often I run into Carl, a 73 year old man who recently retired and, a couple of months later, moved into a retirement home.

    Inspired by the recent discussions, I asked him, "Carl, do you think power corrupts? Does absolute power corrupt absolutely." He answered, "Yes!"

    I told him "I believe power has the potential to corrupt." Then, since I also believe there can be "gradations of corruption", and that being corrupted can lead to self-delusion, I asked him, "Why is it since the passing of term limits [22nd Amendment, 1947, ratified by states in 1951], why has no U.S. president not been so corrupt [deluded] as to attempt to stay past his term? They've all stepped down."

    (As a semi-humorous aside, does this mean Congress is more corrupt than Obama?)
    2819) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649344)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To the "other posters" ... to the ones "laughing at me or those 'similar' to me with Clyde in PMs" ... or to Clyde ... what is your difficulty with believing "truism" with "generality"? True 100% of the time? 90%? 75%? Or is Clyde on the "truism" if it's true 25% of the time? Hmmm?
    2820) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649340)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-wonderful job, trying to continue to spread the lie about how all university profs are libs libs libs. If I didn't respect the privacy of my colleagues, I'd post pix of their "Romney/Ryan" bumper stickers, the "Obama: most polarizing president ... EVER" posters on their doors, their ads on their doors for the Catholic Church services and "Life is Precious" posters, audio or video recordings of the Obama jokes made.

    Yeah, keep up the lie. FOX News must love it.

    Silly, unthinking foolishness from his type.

    Again lying about what I said.

    I said only said that Left Wing Zealot Professors... DIDN'T SAY ALL, NOR MOST PROFESSORS, of course.

    Thank you for again confirming what I say about your type.

    Let's see: I am against Capitalism, For Gay Marriage, First Read of the day is The New York Times. First 24/7 News is CNN. Believe BBC and CNN are Superior to FOX. Etc., etc., etc.

    Hey Sarge...

    What Fantasy World do YOU inhabit?

    Please enter The Real Word.


    I inhabit the world where I knew the crap that can happen by age THREE. What crap it was is none of your g-d business. What did YOU know about real life at age 3?
    2821) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649338)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...

    Funny, it seems to me that you are the one playing the question game. Why don't you search my posts and figure out if I think humans are pure?
    Meantime, since you don't, is it because of evolution, or did God make us not pure and we made a bad choice? Original sin?

    How much further would you like to drive this away from your fundamental argument?

    Your arguments were against this...

    Are Humans perfect?

    How much power would you give to imperfect persons? Or any organization run by them?

    Your reply:

    This is your chance to make your case. Provide your evidence.

    And when I said...

    Power Corrupts. Absolute Power Corrupts, Absolutely.

    YOU asked me to 'prove' a truism about human nature. Which you NOW say you believe?

    Your above reply confirms, what I have been saying about YOUR arguments:

    When you are shown to be wrong...

    NOTE: Sorry to the other Posters, for my long reply to foolishness. Sarge is just... Well, you know what.


    Sorry to other posters for Clyde making assumptions.
    2822) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649336)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    janneseti, in the video I linked, do you see a potential flaw in the study?

    Not everyone sees the same things as others, so rather than hinting at any possible/potential flaw, why not point it out for discussion?

    Agreed, but, in a way, I did point 2 possible flaws out. (Which would answer: are humans perfect? Ummm, how could an experiment have flaws if humans were perfect, right?)
    So, I want to know if janneseti, or you, or others see it or see other issues?
    2823) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649279)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-wonderful job, trying to continue to spread the lie about how all university profs are libs libs libs. If I didn't respect the privacy of my colleagues, I'd post pix of their "Romney/Ryan" bumper stickers, the "Obama: most polarizing president ... EVER" posters on their doors, their ads on their doors for the Catholic Church services and "Life is Precious" posters, audio or video recordings of the Obama jokes made.

    Yeah, keep up the lie. FOX News must love it.
    2824) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649270)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting side-discussion, about power and gender in relationships. But that was not the source of my initial post, nor was janneseti's response restricted to that.

    Yes. Please back to the topic.
    Philip Zimbardo's experiments is about behaviors when authorities make others to do things that they normally wouldn't do.
    I saw an other docu where the test people was in the impression that they was part of a science project. They where given instructions from white coated men to submit electrical charges to persons they couldn't see, only hear them.
    The white coated men came back and forth and said that you should increase the current. Most people did that despite hearing the screams from the other room.


    janneseti, in the video I linked, do you see a potential flaw in the study?
    2825) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1649269)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are Humans perfect?

    How much power would you give to imperfect persons? Or any organization run by them?


    This is your chance to make your case. Provide your evidence.

    Evidence that Humans are not perfect, and do bad things?

    You are refuting that?

    You are refuting that Evil In Power, is more dangerous, than Evil Not In Power?

    Are you kidding?

    Sorry...

    Won't play that silly Academic Game of yours.

    That silly, very mind numbing game, was attempted on me, for over 20 years in Academia, with no success. My students loved me for not playing that ridiculous game. They understood, but were afraid not to play it.

    Why Students, in a supposed Liberal Arts University, were afraid to say what they really thought, to Left Wing Zealot Professors and Administrators (and I was repeatedly threatened, if I did not accept THEIR beliefs), should be part of another Thread.

    Question: All Humans are Pure?


    Funny, it seems to me that you are the one playing the question game. Why don't you search my posts and figure out if I think humans are pure?
    Meantime, since you don't, is it because of evolution, or did God make us not pure and we made a bad choice? Original sin?

    How much further would you like to drive this away from your fundamental argument?
    2826) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1648973)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are Humans perfect?

    How much power would you give to imperfect persons? Or any organization run by them?


    This is your chance to make your case. Provide your evidence.
    2827) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1648914)
    Posted 4 Mar 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting side-discussion, about power and gender in relationships. But that was not the source of my initial post, nor was janneseti's response restricted to that.

    Clyde, and others, did/do make the claim that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I suspect that is an old old statement. One that did not really get tested until recent times. (Previous evidence would have been anecdotal.) Also, I am suggesting the possibility that there were flaws in the study referred to in the video for which I provided a link.
    2828) Message boards : Politics : Absolute Power (Message 1647916)
    Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does it, in fact, corrupt? Absolutely?
    Check out this wonderful, double-blind study: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-mDhg09pcw.
    Hmmm, the "most sadistic" of the guards was very much into theater at the time.
    2829) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1647904)
    Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But! But?!

    Can't stir the pot if he answers - only if he asks!

    Hi Gary...

    One good thing about your Reply's:

    The Reply, signifying nothing, is short. Unlike other's.

    Remember this axiom: When ones Ideas are Bankrupt. Get personal, and silly.

    Now let's see if you can/will respond to my forthcoming answer to Sarge, with an Intelligent and Thoughtful Disagreement.

    I have faith you can.


    Remember this axiom?
    Why post something too long to read when you can post hundreds of short replies? I have faith you do remember and apply, as well as distort the meanings of short and long.
    2830) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1647888)
    Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But! But?!

    Can't stir the pot if he answers - only if he asks!

    I think he's saying he hasn't read it.
    Though I enjoy italics.
    2831) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1647539)
    Posted 28 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President has no authority to Declare War.

    Yes he does for at least 90 days. In a nuke world that is forever. Perhaps you should learn some of what powers government has.

    "Declare War", a Constitutional Term and Specific meaning, does not mean Wage War.

    The '90 Day Congressional Authority' is about Waging War, not Declaring War. Which is an entirely another level, concerning 'Treaty's and Obligations'.

    The USA's last Declared War, Constitutionally Declared by Congress, was WWII.


    Since YOU have READ the Act about NET NEUTRALITY, which points, specifically, are you against?


    Aw, c'mon, broh! You've had more than 4 hours to answer. Why don't you answer questions asked directly of you?
    [That's FOUR (4) good comebacks! ;)]

    Sarge...

    Get a life. This maybe important to you. Not me. Have more important things to do.

    Just came home, and now going out, under swaying palm trees, to have a bite to eat. With the most beautiful woman in the world.

    Just sit by your computer, and await my reply tomorrow morning.

    :) :) :)


    But! But?!
    2832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tim Hunt/Captain Avatar (Message 1647474)
    Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rest in Peace, Cap'n.
    2833) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1647473)
    Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President has no authority to Declare War.

    Yes he does for at least 90 days. In a nuke world that is forever. Perhaps you should learn some of what powers government has.

    "Declare War", a Constitutional Term and Specific meaning, does not mean Wage War.

    The '90 Day Congressional Authority' is about Waging War, not Declaring War. Which is an entirely another level, concerning 'Treaty's and Obligations'.

    The USA's last Declared War, Constitutionally Declared by Congress, was WWII.


    Since YOU have READ the Act about NET NEUTRALITY, which points, specifically, are you against?


    Aw, c'mon, broh! You've had more than 4 hours to answer. Why don't you answer questions asked directly of you?
    [That's FOUR (4) good comebacks! ;)]
    2834) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1647370)
    Posted 27 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President has no authority to Declare War.

    Yes he does for at least 90 days. In a nuke world that is forever. Perhaps you should learn some of what powers government has.

    "Declare War", a Constitutional Term and Specific meaning, does not mean Wage War.

    The '90 Day Congressional Authority' is about Waging War, not Declaring War. Which is an entirely another level, concerning 'Treaty's and Obligations'.

    The USA's last Declared War, Constitutionally Declared by Congress, was WWII.


    Since YOU have READ the Act about NET NEUTRALITY, which points, specifically, are you against?
    2835) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1646688)
    Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clyde wrote:
    Much verbiage, signifying nothing.

    Now that is the best self assessment I've seen on the boards.

    Not bad.

    Finally, an interesting comeback. Keeps me on-board.

    :) :) :)

    Why? Did you fall over?

    I was being pushed.

    :) :) :)


    Welcome back on the wagon?
    2836) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1646687)
    Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is humor defined by whether a good number of people find it funny?
    Because, yeah, I actually found this funny as well.
    But, the other post, by someone else, talking about humor? Where is it? Because a whole bunch of people from different walks of life just ain't seeing it, bro'!
    Maybe the supposed humor was in what the "last" question was. I didn't answer his question. I answered my own "last" question, as he so often does with questions he asks.
    I have simply stated I need to go look up more info and that, in the meantime, I am not for ISPs charging more for the same or more for less service.
    What's so difficult to understand about that response, ha ha, hee hee, ho ho? And to take it for, that's the closest I have to an answer right now?
    When I'm certain on a response I provide, you'll know it. Meantime, enjoy the warm fuzzy feelings.

    Of course. Makes a lot of sense.

    When unable, or unwilling, to answer a pertinent question.

    Much verbiage, signifying nothing.


    You have an interesting sense of "much", sir. Was that sentence too long for you, too? [See, I used "too" instead of "as well". Please inflict more Orwellian reduction of speech on us. ;)]
    2837) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1646638)
    Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As Long As My Bill Continues to go UP UP UP and Service Continues to go Down Down Down, I'll Be A Happy, Smiling Consumer.

    Got Throttled?

    Got Pinched Pipe?

    Got Lame Streamed?

    Got Higher Bill?

    Got Shat Service?

    Got 'it'?

    Yep.


    ROFL! Now that's humor done right.


    Is humor defined by whether a good number of people find it funny?
    Because, yeah, I actually found this funny as well.
    But, the other post, by someone else, talking about humor? Where is it? Because a whole bunch of people from different walks of life just ain't seeing it, bro'!
    Maybe the supposed humor was in what the "last" question was. I didn't answer his question. I answered my own "last" question, as he so often does with questions he asks.
    I have simply stated I need to go look up more info and that, in the meantime, I am not for ISPs charging more for the same or more for less service.
    What's so difficult to understand about that response, ha ha, hee hee, ho ho? And to take it for, that's the closest I have to an answer right now?
    When I'm certain on a response I provide, you'll know it. Meantime, enjoy the warm fuzzy feelings.
    2838) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1646233)
    Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question:

    Those FOR the Entire Act -

    Anything gives your pause?

    If so... What?


    Ok, I tried getting you to admit this earlier, but you were just not getting the hint.

    They haven't released the entire proposal. The FCC is not suggesting that all regulations under Title II be enforced. So asking people if they are "FOR the Entire Act" is very misleading on your part. No one in favor of Title II Regulation / Net Neutrality is "FOR the Entire Act".

    What you should be asking is, from the proposal, is there anything you disagree with or would add? For me, I would add the local loop unbundling section as well. But otherwise, I agree with the entire summary that has been proposed so far.

    Again, the FCC has tried to establish Net Neutrality without Title II previously. There's no way this can be described as a gov't power grab. The ISP Cartels have only themselves to blame for this. Verizon should have left well enough alone.

    Therefore...

    You were FOR this Act, before knowing The Details?

    Please explain.


    Clyde, here's an honest answer for you: I have not read it. (Do we have a link to it in this thread or could someone provide it? Yes, I know I can search engine it, but, hey, I'm multi-tasking as it is.)

    On principle, Clyde, I believe ... yes, believe for the time being, that it is not a government power grab but rather the result of not doing this would be instead that the big ISPs will be the ones making the grab ... the grab for power and money. So, while I must educate myself on the exact details of the Act, let me ask YOU: do you *not* believe *companies* are sometimes the ones grabbing for power??

    Why will you not accept that BOTH are SOB'S?


    Why do you not, and when will you, accept that I am independent and, despite any leanings I have, I do not subscribe to the idea that our goverment is or has been perfect? Why is it, for so many (and that includes some posting here), that if one does not agree with a person on one point, it is belleved the disagreer must therefore hold an opinion diametrically opposed from the other on all issues? Why is it, besides work and life (such as it is) that some people disappear from here for months? To answer the last question: because there's only so many ways we can explain ourselves and get tired of running over the same old ground.
    2839) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1646154)
    Posted 25 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question:

    Those FOR the Entire Act -

    Anything gives your pause?

    If so... What?


    Ok, I tried getting you to admit this earlier, but you were just not getting the hint.

    They haven't released the entire proposal. The FCC is not suggesting that all regulations under Title II be enforced. So asking people if they are "FOR the Entire Act" is very misleading on your part. No one in favor of Title II Regulation / Net Neutrality is "FOR the Entire Act".

    What you should be asking is, from the proposal, is there anything you disagree with or would add? For me, I would add the local loop unbundling section as well. But otherwise, I agree with the entire summary that has been proposed so far.

    Again, the FCC has tried to establish Net Neutrality without Title II previously. There's no way this can be described as a gov't power grab. The ISP Cartels have only themselves to blame for this. Verizon should have left well enough alone.

    Therefore...

    You were FOR this Act, before knowing The Details?

    Please explain.


    Clyde, here's an honest answer for you: I have not read it. (Do we have a link to it in this thread or could someone provide it? Yes, I know I can search engine it, but, hey, I'm multi-tasking as it is.)

    On principle, Clyde, I believe ... yes, believe for the time being, that it is not a government power grab but rather the result of not doing this would be instead that the big ISPs will be the ones making the grab ... the grab for power and money. So, while I must educate myself on the exact details of the Act, let me ask YOU: do you *not* believe *companies* are sometimes the ones grabbing for power??
    2840) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1645827)
    Posted 24 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please point to specific statements in the proposal. It really sounds like you've read a GOP pre-interpreted version of the proposal. There's no way lower speeds, higher consumer costs, and small independents are going out of business with this proposal.

    GOP??? Silly, Ideological, Rant.


    Its no longer ironic that you accuse everyone else of ideology and ideological standpoints while refusing to see your own.

    GOP Sucks.


    Yet you enjoy drinking their swill. Refill on your stein, sir?

    Read The Entire Proposed Regulations.

    Not the title.


    Again, please point to specific clauses or sections that indicate anything what you've claimed.


    Wow, Ozz, he most certainly does NOT have your number, does he? Has he called you a lib yet?
    2841) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1645826)
    Posted 24 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Start reading the Entire Proposal.

    Just a Government Takeover, via Regulations.

    More Consumer costs. Small Independents out-of-business. Lower Speeds possible. Government Control of Speech, More, and More and More.


    Please point to specific statements in the proposal. It really sounds like you've read a GOP pre-interpreted version of the proposal. There's no way lower speeds, higher consumer costs, and small independents are going out of business with this proposal.

    Net Neutrality? Another Obama-ism, AKA - A Lying Title. He loves that.


    You do realize that Obama has only recently thrown his hat into the debate. He made no statements when the original Net Neutrality rules were put in place then shot down by Verizon via a court challenge. This issue has been going on for a few years, but I do note that anything that Obama tags his name to, his detractors immediately find the worse possible angle behind it then say it is all Obama's fault.


    I wrote to one of my congressmen about Net Neutrality back in 1999 or so. Yes, I did get a response. So yeah, it's not just another "Obama-ism".
    2842) Message boards : Politics : Is there really any hope for America? (Message 1645821)
    Posted 24 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...so what's the problem?


    Spear Chuckin' Neanderthals Still Live. Look at da Pic fO Proof.

    And, of Course, da posted word.

    Yep.


    Who is Sean Penn?
    Is he a spear chucker? Will Clyde find the hidden connotation in your post?
    Hey, leave those elephants alone!
    Sometimes, the unposted word is better?
    Yep? Nope!
    Au weh.
    2843) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Then Again - There May Have Been No Big Bang (Message 1645818)
    Posted 24 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like what I am reading! This is partly agreeing with my own long held theory about the universe. But there are too many "mights" for any conclusions yet. It is as much a theory as mine is, but first time I've found anyone seemingly agreeing with me.


    So, you've been forming hypotheses, running experiments, collecting and analyzing data, revising your theory as you go?

    Or did you mean "hunch"?
    2844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The return of the kittyman..... (Message 1645520)
    Posted 23 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Hippy, how Ya' doin'?

    <=== Thought I was the "hippy" 'round here.

    And bud...that mullet?

    I had one too just until I had to look for a job ten years ago and it would not work for that. I cut it off and gave it to Locks for Life.
    Love the look still. Amen, brother.


    Hair that is all one length is not a mullet.

    Well, when it kinda falls off to both sides an looks like a mullet, I calls it a mullet look.

    Sorry if you do not consider it at such, nice locks nonetheless, my friend.
    As I said, I used to were such locks. Some do not think so, but I think a man looks mighty fine wearing long hair.

    I am not a gurly man, but I consider you a very fine looking guy.

    Take that without any sexual connotatitons on my part.


    A mullet has long hair in the back, short to medium on the top and sides. There are layers. It has nothing to do with how it is combed.




    For further distinction, here is the "reverse" mullet, short on the sides and in the back, longer on the top.

    2845) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The computer that crunches cloud data to heat your home (Message 1641365)
    Posted 13 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i suspect that it's been mostly heated by your less frugal neighbors.


    Which is why I have my air condition set to turn on whenever it goes above 68 to 72 degrees F. Which happens year round.
    2846) Message boards : Politics : M E T Two (Message 1639945)
    Posted 11 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So point out the posts where Arabs were mentioned with regards to Islam!

    Questions regarding Islam:

    Just why is Islam such a fractured religion/culture?

    Aren't all women supposed to be covered in Islamic states?

    Celebrities in Dubai

    Unless my geography is grossly out of whack, isn't Dubai in the United Arab Emigrates?

    The UAE is an Islamic Nation is it not?


    Such negativity. Which is why I didn't post in one of your newest threads. BTW, care to try to spread lies about me again? Go on. Have a whack at it.
    2847) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1639202)
    Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What we don't understand about Russia because we don't know their history is the satellite states or as I was taught buffer zone was Russia a thousand years ago.


    And what about those who trace their roots there back to earlier than 862? How should they view this Scandinavia "invasion"?
    2848) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1639175)
    Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2) As for releasing the information, the article claims it was due to a Freedom of Information request.

    Yea... Sure...

    Just a suggestion to those in power (guess who).

    Just because you apparently conduct Foreign Policy from 'Hurt Feelings', and Personal likes/dislikes (Very Amateurish):

    Don't make this personal with Putin.

    Putin is not Israel's Leader. Putin is REALLY dangerous.


    Speaking of that, as I read further into the article, it reminded me of Israelis training the TSA to spot potential terrorists by physical cues given while waiting at the airport.
    2849) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1639173)
    Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Moai statues by the Rapa Nui people from rock on the Chilean Polynesian island of Easter Island were carved between the 1250-1500 AD. Rather more than 400 years ago.


    To be in the hundreds rather than, say, tens of thousands, would seem not too different when it comes to this matter.

    LIBS, LIBS, LIBS!

    NI!!!
    2850) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1638803)
    Posted 8 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kong, this is patently breaking the rules.
    We do not follow the links of those who will not follow ours, let alone when no description or thoughts of one's own on the link were shared.
    Besides, from your description, this has absolutely nothing do with the planet Venus nor the mythical goddess Venus. I call that bait and switch. Let the market sort it out and do not click the links. :)



    Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights" wrote:

    As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.


    Ni?
    2851) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1638791)
    Posted 8 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'm surprised no one has posted about Putin and Aspberger's.

    I'm very suspicious of that claim.

    Why? The blurb I saw with the link to the article said this was the hypothesis of some group such as the CIA, so ... ?

    Associated, on the periphery, with these Agency's, when Attached to NATO, many decades ago.

    Many reasons to release this type of 'information'.

    Truth may not be one of the reasons.

    EDIT: If true: Why release this information?


    Looking at a USA Today article (in the middle of it):

    1) I erred when I said CIA (but, I wasn't claiming I knew for sure which agency made the report). It was The Pentagon.
    2) As for releasing the information, the article claims it was due to a Freedom of Information request.
    2852) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1638774)
    Posted 8 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kong, this is patently breaking the rules.
    We do not follow the links of those who will not follow ours, let alone when no description or thoughts of one's own on the link were shared.
    Besides, from your description, this has absolutely nothing do with the planet Venus nor the mythical goddess Venus. I call that bait and switch. Let the market sort it out and do not click the links. :)
    2853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TurboTax troubles? Refund intercepts? (Message 1638754)
    Posted 8 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't know about TT (not Audi) LOL. I have been using TaxAct for some years now. My dad gets the regular updates each year. Already efiled and have my state refund. Expect federal in a few more days. Cost for filing? $20.00 USD.

    Yes, I kind of like the idea of them getting no taxes from me, so that Admirals can build roads either for their own use or to charge even more than toll roads. Sounds great!!! :)

    Are you saying that those of us who choose to not let the governmet use are money interest free are shirkers?

    I'm saying it's not as black and white as that.
    2854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TurboTax troubles? Refund intercepts? (Message 1638473)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't know about TT (not Audi) LOL. I have been using TaxAct for some years now. My dad gets the regular updates each year. Already efiled and have my state refund. Expect federal in a few more days. Cost for filing? $20.00 USD.

    Yes, I kind of like the idea of them getting no taxes from me, so that Admirals can build roads either for their own use or to charge even more than toll roads. Sounds great!!! :)
    2855) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1638467)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'm surprised no one has posted about Putin and Aspberger's.

    I'm very suspicious of that claim.

    Why? The blurb I saw with the link to the article said this was the hypothesis of some group such as the CIA, so ... ?
    2856) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1638464)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe it is a video with a lib lib lib agenda?

    I think that is a lib to the third power.

    Maybe the binary operation is multiplication instead of exponentiation? If so, then it is 3lib!
    Oops, I just gave King Assume Elitist Fake Non-Elitist more reason to hate on me.
    Ach, werde.
    Au weh!
    2857) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1638463)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +42
    ROTHLAMO!

    What's the H? Or was it a typo?
    2858) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1638392)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have mixed feelings about whether I want to watch the entire one hour and fifteen minutes of that video. Is it worth the time?


    Maybe it is a video with a lib lib lib agenda?
    2859) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1638391)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Haven't read the article yet, but I'm surprised no one has posted about Putin and Aspberger's.
    2860) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1638389)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will it do to have the video?

    Did He use the word domino? Yes he did! When was the last time that was used?


    Was it worth watching?
    Does it help address my previous questions?

    Then, perhaps we can ask, was no one else thinking or saying the same thing, was no one listening to Glenn?
    Remember, the Mujahadeen were in existence in the 1980s.
    Remember that al Qaeda attakced the WTC with a car bomb (essentially?) in an interior parking lot in 1003.
    IIRC, al Qaeda attacked American interests abroad in late summer of 1998.
    No one else knew something was up until Glenn?
    Hmmm.
    2861) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1638388)
    Posted 7 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [If you think this is black and white then I would suggest getting your eyes tested.


    +42
    2862) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637236)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The REAL political power in the USA is

    the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

    How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

    Moreover, the Koch brothers are low hanging fruit in a sense.
    Many people on the left and right and in the middle agree, get Citizens United reversed. Get the big money out of campaigns, out of politics. I heard/read never anyone say, get only Koch brother money out, but let Soros' continue, let the unions continue and so on, or vice versa. ALL OF IT. If anyone does, I imagine it is a small minority.
    2863) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637233)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What I can't understand about some of the right is if someone disagrees with them about some things, the disagreer must be a leftist libber What a frackin' joke.
    Sounds just like what happens when someone disagrees with a leftist libber and is assumed to be a rightist money grubbing thief.

    But, I haven't called you that in 7 years! :)
    2864) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637231)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dat's Right. Yep

    Let ... San Simeon Elitists Spew On. They are So Laughable, it hurts when I ROTFLMAO. at them.

    Yep


    Yep, let fake non-elitists label others as elitists after assuming much about their lives. Yep. THAT is TRULY laughable.
    2865) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637227)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.


    Dat's Right. Yep
    blah blah blah.

    Yep

    What I can't understand about the left is they talk about personal freedom all the time but they are the first ones to make the government so powerful that you have no freedom. I just can't see the logic of the left.


    What I can't understand about some of the right is if someone disagrees with them about some things, the disagreer must be a leftist libber What a frackin' joke.
    2866) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637226)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The REAL political power in the USA is

    the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

    How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

    Because no one has brought forth evidence, that I am aware of, that Soros or Bloomberg or whomever created a fake grass-roots movement that took 15-20 years to catch on.

    Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.

    My understanding is based on cached documents from the early days of the web. :)
    2867) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1637122)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... in his world it's all black and white. I just so wish his Uni tutor could read his posts here, I really do.


    Quite unlikely. I could name you a few that apparently see things in black and white, and you'd agree. At times, though, we can all slip into that mode. You've been in that mode lately.
    2868) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637118)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

    Because he is not evil?

    I find it hard to believe somebody who worked with the Nazis, broke the bank of England and contributes huge amounts of money to the Democratic party in order to gain power isn't evil.


    Werner von Braun meets at least category one.
    Please continue.
    2869) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1637117)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The REAL political power in the USA is

    the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

    How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

    Because no one has brought forth evidence, that I am aware of, that Soros or Bloomberg or whomever created a fake grass-roots movement that took 15-20 years to catch on.
    2870) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1637115)
    Posted 4 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Sarge (et al): Just to explain my now oddly out of place post, the person's name that prompted it has changed, so it may be disregarded. :^)

    I totally got it. :)
    Gary, see the link?
    2871) Message boards : Politics : We are doomed. (Message 1636859)
    Posted 3 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The REAL political power in the USA is

    the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.
    2872) Message boards : Politics : The Venus Project-The Choice Is Ours (Message 1636857)
    Posted 3 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    !!!
    2873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The return of the kittyman..... (Message 1635958)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Hippy, how Ya' doin'?

    <=== Thought I was the "hippy" 'round here.

    And bud...that mullet?

    I had one too just until I had to look for a job ten years ago and it would not work for that. I cut it off and gave it to Locks for Life.
    Love the look still. Amen, brother.


    Hair that is all one length is not a mullet.
    2874) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635957)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know where this all is going don't you?
    What kind of false propaganda about bad things Poland did to Germans living in Poland, did the Nazi regime spread, in order to find an excuse to invade Poland? (1 September 1939)
    Answer: Exactly the same kind of false news....
    Be prepared Europe, be very, very prepared. The deeper Russia sinks economically, the greater the risk that the Putin regime decides that the only way out, is to launch a full scale war against western Europe.

    Russia has not launched a full scale war against western Europe yet.
    They dont have to. Now its a hybrid warfare going on and "small" countries are going to suffer the most.

    From Part 3 which many refuse to read

    Scotland attempted to split from the UK. The Golden Dawn party gained ground in Greece. 15,000 Nazi’s marched in Germany last month. The list goes on and on and Russia has ties to nearly every major right-wing group involved:

    Bulgaria – Ataka Party (there are claims that they report directly to the Russian embassy) Hungary – Jobbik (Dugin hosted their leader Vona at Moscow State University)
    Austria – FPO
    Italy – Forza Nuova (Met multiple times with the Russian Duma and Putin himself) Greece – Golden Dawn (Dugin wrote their leader Michaloliakos while he was in prison) Germany – Pegida
    Netherlands – Freedom Party
    France – National Front (In November a Russian bank donated 9 million euros to Marine Le Pen and the National Front)

    Not only is the Kremlin supporting these groups at the highest levels they’re also targeting Europe’s youth.


    Putin is a fascist and as such his only political goal is power.


    Once again, fascism is on the right. Communism is on the left.
    Do not be led astray by the decades old false dichotomy apparently perpetrated by Ayn Rand. What links Nazi Germany and the USSR is totalitarianism. Again, see Gary's 2 and 3 dimensional matrices.
    (And don't try telling me about what NAZI was an abbreviation of. Hitler was devious, so of course he and his cronies came up with a misleading name for their party.)
    2875) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635956)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Dena, anything written by a fascist like Beck will not be read by me. I don't need opinions from fascists. And absolutely not a lesson of Russian history from a fascist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

    You have made a statement that is conflicting. In Europe the the left is communist and the right is fascist. In America the Left is communist and the Right is small government. I have been watching Glen for years and he has never ask for more than freedom for everybody and small government.He only opposes those who would limit a persons freedom. You have been brain washed and like many members of a cult you refuse to look at any view point other than the one that has been installed in your head. This thread is not intended to debate the politics of Glen Beck but is intended to discuss Russia. What I posted limits the discussion to that and how Russia could change the world. Years ago while Glen was still at Fox, he proposed what is happening in the middle east. Sadly, what he predicted has come true because nobody listened to him. He as defined a possible Russian future and has the facts to back it up. Read it or don't but stop the debate about Glen Beck.


    Perhaps for another thread, but:
    Please state when Glenn made these predictions about the middle east.
    Please state precisely what these predictions were.
    Then, perhaps we can ask, was no one else thinking or saying the same thing, was no one listening to Glenn?
    Remember, the Mujahadeen were in existence in the 1980s.
    Remember that al Qaeda attakced the WTC with a car bomb (essentially?) in an interior parking lot in 1003.
    IIRC, al Qaeda attacked American interests abroad in late summer of 1998.
    No one else knew something was up until Glenn?
    Hmmm.
    2876) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635954)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Dena, anything written by a fascist like Beck will not be read by me. I don't need opinions from fascists. And absolutely not a lesson of Russian history from a fascist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

    You have been brain washed...

    Brainwashed eh? There goes another one. I have no patience for right wing Yankees.
    Goodbye.
    *plonk*


    This is getting funny!
    Berates Michel, who is clear neither a "Yankee" nor right-wing.
    Perhaps the brush I am painting with is too broad, but would might think, then, that Sten-Arne is right wing! Guess not?!
    2877) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635951)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From what I have seen in all your posts, you're a posting happy troll, and just a very young academic type with no real life experience. One might call you an "opinion machine", having opinions about everything, but no real knowledge about that which you have opinions about.

    Blah, blah, blah. People like you apparently have no clue what life experiences those studying at college or professional academics have been through.
    Let me tell you something, while without much detail: between the ages of 3 to 5, I had already seen far more than I should have and I had a reasonable understanding of why it was happening.
    Also, while earning my Bachelor's degree, there were times I worked as many as 3 part-time jobs. So, don't you DARE talk to me or others about academics lacking life experiences.
    Plonk yourself, go away a while and re-evaluate your dislike of academia.
    (Goes for a few others posting here as well!)
    2878) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635949)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Edit: Added. 2015 will be an "interesting" year to say the least. With the western world finding itself in deep sh*t. Two enemies at once, the radical Islamists, and a power crazy Russia. I wouldn't be suprised at all, if the radical Islamists, and Russia negotiated another "Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact". This time maybe called the "Putin-Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi pact"

    Hmmm. Please do correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Russia historically thrown its support to Iran and Syria in great part? So, they've support Bashad, correct? Now, Russia will support ISIS and al-Qaeda? I don't think this very likely! (Besides, al-Qaesa grew out of the Afghan Mujahadeen fighting against the USSR's occupation of Afghanistan, correct?)
    Unless Putin/Russia would now like to play the game of "The enemy of our enemy is our friend"? Maybe Putin will ignore how "well" that has worked out for us in the United States! :)
    2879) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635946)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll just let Wikipedia do the talking :)

    You might just as well, seeing as you clearly can't :-)

    Michel, give Chris another 9 to 12 months and he'll be nicer to you. Though he remembers differently, he has some initial difficulties with INTPs.
    2880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The return of the kittyman..... (Message 1635944)
    Posted 1 Feb 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Hippy, how Ya' doin'?

    <=== Thought I was the "hippy" 'round here.
    2881) Message boards : Politics : Open Message to Russia (Message 1635583)
    Posted 31 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Love Russia.

    Yep.


    Of course you do. Because when a TRUE far left DICTATOR (one who forced his way back into power and another term by creating a new office, the office that really holds power) acts like he's a centrist capitalist and pokes fun at Obama, you'll ignore the contradictions and love him because he picks on Obama, just like you. Nice bedfellow you have. ;) Does he look as good in person without the shirt? ;)
    2882) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1635581)
    Posted 31 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    High-speed internet access business is so fragmented across the US that most people don't have a real choice in services. Big ISPs have remained out of each other's territories so they don't have to compete. Not only have internet speeds in the US languished behind all other countries in terms of $/Mbit, but customer service is at an all time low. Why provide good service if you know your customer has nowhere else to turn to and you're the only game in town?

    This is one of those moments in time where an unregulated market has become a problem and free market principles have fallen apart. Competition must be fostered so that there is incentive for these companies to do better in all areas; speed, service, and price.

    It is time the cartel(s) are stopped.


    Right on.
    My father's brother has been in northern VA ... near DC ... since 1982 or so. They are used, or believe they are used to ... in that area ... the best the USA has to offer, it seems. The monopoloy there, IIRC, is Cox. My father moved to the area in 1997, leaving in the last 1.5 years. He told my uncle how awful Cox's quality, service and prices are. Of course, my uncle would not hear of this.

    Luckily, by ALREADY paying COMCAST *extra* for "Blast", I can watch this Seth Andrews video. But, now I am paying for ONE item (internet) (apartment complex covers cable TV from the same company) very nearly the same I did to Charter up north for bundling tv, internet and phone in 2007-2009.
    2883) Message boards : Politics : Hi. I'm Alex and I am an INTJ. (Message 1634111)
    Posted 28 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blah. Figures people don't know what "extroverted" and "introverted" mean.

    I do. For me there is an uncomfortable feeling being before more than a few people and I feel more comfortable in the shadows. Many of my feelings I am uncomfortable sharing.
    What you see is how I learned to be a more open person. My roommate of 30 years was an extrovert and enjoyed the company of many others. She would drag me to places where I was uncomfortable and I had to learn how to be comfortable in that environment. I now know it's important to to mix with other people but I still need to fight the deep down feeling to stay away from others and remain in my shell.

    With no surprise, this is incorrect.
    Fictional character Superman is an introvert. He fictionally deals just fine with fictional people (save fictional evil ones such as Lex Luthor). But he has his Fortress of Solitude.
    Why?
    Because extroverts and introverts differ on how they recharge, not how they deal with people.
    Typical misunderstanding.
    "After a long work week, would you rather go dancing downtown or go for a hike in the mountains?"
    2884) Message boards : Politics : Hi. I'm Alex and I am an INTJ. (Message 1634067)
    Posted 28 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blah. Figures people don't know what "extroverted" and "introverted" mean.
    2885) Message boards : Politics : Hi. I'm Alex and I am an INTJ. (Message 1633396)
    Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bet none of you can get the test to evenly split on even one of the 4 dimensions.

    Maybe you could do that if you just kept every answer in the original/neutral position?


    I took the test (Myers-Briggs) 2 or 3 times in the late 80s. I do not recall enough about it to know if there were neutral choices. My guess is, no, there weren't. I see to recall consistent answers to multiple questions led to certain qualifications.

    I did not set out to split it on 1 dimension, I did.
    A year to 1.5 yrs. later, it was not split and on another dimension I had reversed, but I blame that on a breakup with a girlfriend. ;)


    Wow, I must've been more tired than I realized when I typed this!
    Replace "see" with "seem" and "qualifications" with "classifications" or "categorizations".

    Begin the 2nd paragraph with "Although I did not set out ...".
    2886) Message boards : Politics : Hi. I'm Alex and I am an INTJ. (Message 1633299)
    Posted 27 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bet none of you can get the test to evenly split on even one of the 4 dimensions.

    Maybe you could do that if you just kept every answer in the original/neutral position?


    I took the test (Myers-Briggs) 2 or 3 times in the late 80s. I do not recall enough about it to know if there were neutral choices. My guess is, no, there weren't. I see to recall consistent answers to multiple questions led to certain qualifications.

    I did not set out to split it on 1 dimension, I did.
    A year to 1.5 yrs. later, it was not split and on another dimension I had reversed, but I blame that on a breakup with a girlfriend. ;)
    2887) Message boards : Politics : Hi. I'm Alex and I am an INTJ. (Message 1633241)
    Posted 26 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bet none of you can get the test to evenly split on even one of the 4 dimensions.
    2888) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1629034)
    Posted 17 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, Michel is doing just fine. 95 to 50, in favor of Michel over Chris.

    Hi Sarge,

    I wasn't aware that it was a competition or that people were scoring with points. He certainly doesn't get a "Ten from Len" from me. But if 2:1 is the result I am happy with that. These free bulletin boards have always been a left Wingers and outsiders haven, so to get even that score is quite an achievement in my book.


    BTW, Gary's doing quite well in elaborating and defending his points as well.
    But I could name several non-left wingers on this forum in your so-called left wingers "haven", current ... and old.
    2889) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1629017)
    Posted 17 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Religious extremism will only go away when religion goes away.

    That leaves extremism.
    Should not it be the other way around?
    Religious extremism will only go away when extremism goes away.

    Moderation in all things. But I'm told you can be an extremist following that religion too.

    Of course. But do jihadist really follow the religion?
    Don't Think so.
    And why are the jihadist not following the religion?

    So now you have appointed yourself arbiter of their religion?!

    Really?!!


    Q: We are surprised and not surprised by this self-appointed arbitership?
    A: No.
    2890) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1629013)
    Posted 17 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone else want to try?


    No, Michel is doing just fine. 95 to 50, in favor of Michel over Chris.
    2891) Message boards : Politics : Net Neutrality Part Deux (Message 1628767)
    Posted 17 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My initial thought would be, talk by actions: get internet service from a smaller company. Make them feel it in the wallet/purse. However, it seems like:

    1) This isn't enough.
    2) I know of no one in my area that has a different service. So, I have no way of knowing the quality of another service such as Century Link. Indeed, Comcast, Charter, etc. ... have essential monopolies across large swathes of the country.
    2892) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1627242)
    Posted 14 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shall we begin a lesson on data mining? Oh, wait, people will need a prerequisite amount of math and statistics knowledge.

    Fact remains that for all that data collection they have done, every independent inquiry done into the effectiveness of the program has found that it has not helped at all.


    As far as I know, you're pretty much correct.
    2893) Message boards : Politics : Ebola and Infectious diseases Part Two (Message 1626945)
    Posted 13 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Six days no new cases, in United Sates. Yet?


    Ebola and Infectious diseases Part Two


    I did not post for a few months because ...


















    ... not that I had contracted Ebola, but ...


















    ... these threads made me scared to go outside much or use the interwebs because I did not want to catch an online version of the bug ...


















    ... or not.
    2894) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626940)
    Posted 13 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You never even acknowledge the condemnations, anyway, so, you just keep waiting for "only then". Good day to you, sir.

    Show me where condemnations actually stop attacks.

    Yanks fan the flames

    Yanks can't make up their minds


    To be blunt, don't give me that crap.
    Tell me why I should follow your links, when you are shifting your statements.
    Are you not?
    In the post I responded to, and in a number of other cases in the last few years, have you not many times called for the general Islamic world to condemn the attacks of the extremists? (As if to demonstrate they're not all the same?)
    Answer honestly.
    I will not, for the time, address whether condemnations stop attacks or not because that has not been what you've previously discussed to the best of my knowledge.
    Besides, I would've expected Michel to make a point on whether condemnations have any power to deter.

    In the meantime, while I admit having divided attention, seems I just heard Abbas and Netanyahu both showed up to show support for France. Furthermore, that a Muslim was working at a kosher Jewish food store in France who protected Jewish customers of said store?
    2895) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626862)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Religion and Culture are one in the same in the Middle East. If you don't believe it then ask all of those poor women shrouded under the veil about why they hide themselves from the world and accept de-facto second class status ??

    Especially when their "good book" states this: -
    "Respect & Honour your wife" Quran 4:19


    Ah, I see you are referring to the "War Scrolls"?
    Oh, wait, *everybody* follows the same "good book" over yonder?
    Ya larns sumtin new eberryday, eh?

    (Or, not.)
    2896) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626861)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Religion and Culture are one in the same in the Middle East. If you don't believe it then ask all of those poor women shrouded under the veil about why they hide themselves from the world and accept de-facto second class status ??


    Why, I didn't know the Coptics & Gnostics did that! Wow! You learn something new, every day!

    (Or, not.)
    2897) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626859)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The internet has become a much more potent tool for recruiting more Jihadists exactly because its so difficult to monitor.

    Apparently not PRISM

    Meh, as far as I'm aware, its still possible to use encryption services to hide from the NSA. Also, while they seem to be collecting almost every scrap of data found on the internet, that data is useless if there is no way of sifting through the data to find actually suspicious persons. In all likelihood, such mass data collection programs are probably making the intelligence work more difficult. There is an overload of data, 99.99999% of it being irrelevant that you still need to sift through. Its looking for a needle in a haystack.

    I guess thats why those programs have not resulted in captured terrorist or foiled terrorist plots.


    Shall we begin a lesson on data mining? Oh, wait, people will need a prerequisite amount of math and statistics knowledge.
    2898) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626857)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about getting back on topic? If you want to get personal, use the PM system.


    Message 1626216 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 19:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1626198.


    Pot, meet kettle?
    Or, is a leaf turning over?
    2899) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626856)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hehehehe good one Dull , he want's people to feel sorry for him , oh i have Dislexia Blah Blah blah and then calls you a worm .

    I may call you Gooba but that is just a friendly way of talking to you and i only use it as you had that as part or your user name . But to refer to you as the worm says a lot about the man .


    As one of his MANY other screen names, he used "Darwin's Worm". Many have simply given up trying to change how they address him every 2 weeks or so, which gets to be a longer and longer screen name, and just call him by some screen name he has used before. One was "Dullnando" or something like that. Do you claim it says a lot about me to call him, as many do, "Dull"? If so, how mistaken you are.

    Second, if ANYONE screams at me for my earlier post to you, they are also mistaken. Despite discussions about dyslexia and the like, when you get out of Michel's or someone else's posts the exact opposite of what he has said, expect to be called on it. (Plus, don't forget how I publicly and privately asked people to give you a chance to express yourself a few years ago.)
    2900) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626837)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok folks, time to calm it down before the thread gets locked.

    Coming from someone who incites matters as well? Give me a break!

    It seems dumbness & education are birds of the same feather, neither knows when to stop getting personal.

    Returning to the topic at hand:

    It's hypocritical of those who hold sway over the masses a la Murdoch. The problems do not lay at ground level, it is much higher. The judge in the Abu Hamza case stated it nicely...

    Have fun in the Supermax Hotel

    ..."He had used his powerbase at the Finsbury Park Mosque in north London to encourage his followers to train and fight in the cause of jihad."

    & therein lies the problem! It is down to those of Islamic faith to kick the extremists out of their mosques rather than vocally condemn incidents which have occurred recently.

    Only then, we may see some improvements.


    You never even acknowledge the condemnations, anyway, so, you just keep waiting for "only then". Good day to you, sir.
    2901) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626835)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More LOL!

    Ok folks, time to calm it down before the thread gets locked.

    ===>Coming from someone who incites matters as well? Give me a break!

    It seems dumbness & education are birds of the same feather, neither knows when to stop getting personal.<===
    2902) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626834)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A comment about the Charlie Hebdo terrorists that I found to be unexpected from the leader of the Shi'ite Muslim group Hezbollah ... .


    LOL!
    2903) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1626833)
    Posted 12 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Мишель so let's do it your way pull all the troops out now and let ISS establish there state country or wat ever
    And what do you think will happen then ....war against Isreal ? Iran ? Lebanon ? Kuwait ? U.A.E ? Jordon ?

    It's getting out of hand with this latest attack in France . When one of theses nutters puts a gun to your head or injur's you , you might change your mind


    Glenn, besides the writing, also work on the reading. And I am saying that nicely.
    2904) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1625386)
    Posted 8 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Reading conservative UK Prime Minister David Cameron's statements sound more like reading Michek's "BHL" posts here than Clyde's. So, let us declare Cameron's views reprehensible and, yet, ask that his speech not be censored.
    2905) Message boards : Politics : Middle East Timebomb (Message 1625334)
    Posted 8 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An attack similar to the one in Paris could happen in the UK, according to Mohammed Shafiq from the Ramadhan Foundation, which works with young British Muslims. He said "the thing that keeps me up at night is the fact that we have these lone wolves".

    Why the bloody hell do think we raised the terror threat level from 3 to 2 ???

    All a lot of fuss about nothing according to some ars**oles around here. Ok tell that to the families of the twelve murdered people in Paris.


    Terrorism succeeds when people are terrorized.
    2906) Message boards : Politics : Society's Role in Education (Message 1625313)
    Posted 8 Jan 2015 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I conceive them to be those of which he who has no use nor any knowledge at all cannot be a God, or demi-god, or hero to mankind, or able to take any serious thought or charge of them. And very unlike a divine man would he be, who is unable to count one, two, three, or to distinguish odd and even numbers, or is unable to count at all, or reckon night and day, and who is totally unacquainted with the revolution of the sun and moon, and the other stars. There would be great folly in supposing that all these are not necessary parts of knowledge to him who intends to know anything about the highest kinds of knowledge; but which these are, and how many there are of them, and when they are to be learned, and what is to be learned together and what apart, and the whole correlation of them, must be rightly apprehended first; and these leading the way we may proceed to the other parts of knowledge. For so necessity grounded in nature constrains us, against which we say that no God contends, or ever will contend."

    "All freemen, I conceive, should learn as much of these branches of knowledge as every child in Egypt is taught when he learns the alphabet. In that country arithmetical games have been invented for the use of mere children, which they learn as a pleasure and amusement. They have to distribute apples and garlands, us "

    "I have late in life heard with amazement of our ignorance in these matters [science in general]; to me we appear to be more like pigs than men, and I am quite ashamed, not only of myself, but of all Greeks."

    All attributed to Plato.

    As I suggested to Chris quite some time ago, there has never been any Golden Age where everything was done right and the results were glorious.

    Plato was complaining about Greece dumbing down more than 2000 years ago.
    2907) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1578925)
    Posted 28 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, I'm just wondering what he will call himself when Obama is replaced.

    I'm betting he will go back to being a worm.

    Oh, be nice! :)

    More likely it'll be, "I'm Screwed". ;-)

    Cheers.

    I'm betting he may go back to chicken stacker. Might be the only job left.


    I was a chicken cutter in the meat room at a supermarket one summer.
    OOPS! I wasn't supposed to admit to my humble beginnings.
    Hey, folks, my beginnings are closer to those of Marshall Mathers' than of, say, Carl Sagan's. But, some of you can go on assuming things.
    2908) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1578596)
    Posted 27 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, I'm just wondering what he will call himself when Obama is replaced.

    I'm betting he will go back to being a worm.

    Oh, be nice! :)
    2909) Message boards : Politics : Civil Rights will soon be losing its biggest champion since Robert Kennedy! (Message 1578555)
    Posted 26 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When The DEM/Libs try to Get Him into The Su Preme Cou rt before BombsAway OBlabby Leaves in Jan. '17, we will Hear All The GOoDies of His AG Ter m and befo re.

    'It' will Be Sweet.


    Didn't you know? He'll go the route of Putin. Create a new office, stronger than the presidency and occupy this new office at least another 4 years. He and Putin are secretly buddies. Socialistic buddies.

    Goobly gabbadoo?
    2910) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1576667)
    Posted 23 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    After The Guillotine, things get WORSE for The People. Just History and Human Nature.

    Really? I take it you've never been to France. Lovely country.

    Isn't this really off topic.

    Only if you don't know French history.

    What have France with enemys to do?

    I don't know what you are trying to say here.


    Is it "hate" to not understand what janneseti is saying?
    Or, is it hate for janneseti to not understand you (and keep repeating about it, even when asked to stop publicly, via PM and red X's before a certain event happened)?
    Or, is none of it hate and for the most part that little box to check is usually a ridiculous misnomer?
    Anyway, yes, if you're a native speaker and know anything of the French revolution, it's quite on topic.
    2911) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1571248)
    Posted 13 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye keel u!!!

    Bienvenido al club.

    La banda está tocando Sabes Que.


    La bande me recule pendant que je chante ma chanson « Démontrant absurdité par étant absurde » ! :)

    "The band back to me while I sing my song "Demonstrating absurdity by being absurd"!"
    Meaning what? :)


    I'm sorry you do not know a common phrase from a POLITICAL pundit here in the USA. Please refrain from speaking to me or about me when you lack information. Otherwise you just make the political discussion more absurd. For the time being, you should put me back on your ignore filter or stop un-hiding my posts.

    Goodbye for Now, so long!
    2912) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1571238)
    Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye keel u!!!

    Bienvenido al club.

    La banda está tocando Sabes Que.


    La bande me recule pendant que je chante ma chanson « Démontrant absurdité par étant absurde » ! :)
    2913) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1571083)
    Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ozz, apparently Clyde was a cop, or in his SEMI-retirement he is now a cop.
    He probably was among those in the early 80s that voted for reducing funding to psychiatric centers.
    It probably gave him more to do as a police officer, as people are more intent on criminalizing the mentally ill, as used to occur.
    Wayne LaPierre squandered his chance to get a conversation about mental health going. Then again, he was probably going to try to get them put in jail.

    Sarge...

    Very Primitive thinking. Your 'thinking' of: Since someone was/are this, therefore they MUST be this.

    That is the same, as some Unthinking Right Wing Nut Posting: Oh he was/is a Professor and a Liberal Arts University. Therefore he MUST be a MORON.

    None of your Post, except noting less than 50% of my working life, makes any sense, and is totally wrong.

    It is possible for you to stop this Unthinking, and Worse, Categorizing of People?

    My answer: No. :) :) :)


    Eye keel u!!!
    2914) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1570803)
    Posted 12 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

    If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.


    No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.


    Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)
    2915) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1570504)
    Posted 11 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see Dena is posting again, but I suspect with the change of thread name, she does not realize this is the same thread.

    In any case, some interesting responses lately and I will respond (or bring more of my questions) as time and health allow.
    2916) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1569881)
    Posted 10 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since i'm a Liberal Progressive Social Democrat i'm more than eager to learn of your findings with regard to socialism being problematic.


    I put experiment in "quotes", so please do not expect me to outline something quantitative. Rather, it is a brief qualitative observation from something long ago. I do not know how it "scales up" to the situation of countries or even smaller areas governed, but it is a thought I cannot move past.

    When I was an undergrad, I DJd for the college's student run radio station.
    My last year I was also on the executive board. I forget my title, but it was probably something to do with equipment, technical issues, etc. ... .
    At the time, CDs were still fairly new. Until some point in my senior year, there were no CD players in the dj booth. (A few had successfully brought in their own and found a jack, and the controls related to that jack, to get their CDs to broadcast.)
    So, at first, in my executive position, I was working on reclaiming the "lost art" of transferring music we had in other formats onto carts, which were essentially single song 8 tracks, re-usable. I was also showing some of my fellow DJs, so the knowledge would not be lost when I graduated within a year.

    At some point that last year, our faculty advisor secured money for us to buy a CD player or 2. But then, the station did not have CDs! Those DJs that had their own could bring those in, of course. The rest were stuck with the older formats (carts and vinyl).

    Even though I did not have a CD player (bought one for myself 1-2 years later), I bought about 20 or so to use for my shows. (I had a friend with a CD player copy them onto tape so I could listen to them on my own away from the station.)

    Some people came to borrow a few of the CDs, as we played similar music.

    After a short time, I decided to put them in the station saying "On loan to W*** from Sarge" (Sarge began there as my DJ handle-blame "Sid" [Sid Vicious] Ward, another DJ-and yes, there is a good reason for the nick, but not what a lot of the assumers here at S@H think).

    I suppose this was essentially charity on my part. My plan was to leave them there all that year and, since I'd made tape copies, perhaps even leave them after my graduation.

    That plan was changed when one of our freshman Djs thought it'd be fun to take old lp's at the station of music he didn't much care for (and maybe thought was not getting played much) and throw them around like frisbees just outside the DJ booth, breaking several.

    I thought, if he's willing to do that, what's to stop him from breaking my CDs next?

    As for connecting this to socialism, if "everyone in the public owns something" supposedly, isn't it really like no one owns it, there's no face ... no person ... to be responsible to for its destruction ... so how would we get everybody in a socialistic society to protect the property as they all have a stake in it? If you answer "security"/"police", aren't you really in a communist society, not socialist? (I realize several don't every accept that there's a difference. I think there is.)
    2917) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1569403)
    Posted 9 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pointing out capitalism has problems does not make one anti-capitalist. Dropped any foreign substances into holes in the ground holding potable water lately?

    Longer post responding to some other, rational previous posts by others, later tonight hopefully.
    2918) Message boards : Politics : So, where is the thread against Islamic violence? (Message 1568251)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Almost as soon as the troubles in Gaza blew up, we got the " The Israel and Palestine conflict" thread, with lots of criticism of Israel's response.

    The title asks the question, give us your answers, or do I have to assume the worst?


    Hmmm, I think you created it?

    Next, "where's the thread on Israeli's who like Palestinians but hate Hamas" or "Muslims that stand up against violence", right?

    Sir, these things have been discussed, at least somewhat. So, why the need for a separate thread?

    The Islamic violence has hardly been discussed at all, yet the numbers killed, injured and made homeless in Islamic countries is far greater than the numbers killed in and close to Israel.



    Sorry, did not realize you had so many posters hidden and so missed it.
    2919) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1568250)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Return to topic.
    WWII Germany should only be discussed in connection to making clearer what socialism is and is not.
    2920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free SMS text messages to Mobiles! (Message 1568136)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A heck of a lot better than poking a mobile keypad. Now you can send texts from your computer keyboard!

    http://www.afreesms.com/intl/


    Not new: try Pinger as well.
    2921) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1568132)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Certainly Magdelena (Polish girl i knew during my MSc year) was very friendly!


    Fascinating! That reminds me of Oleksandra from Ukraine. ;)
    2922) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1568129)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why on earth could you be bothered to make that post??? I really do worry about you at times.



    Goobelly gobbelly geebeley doo unter gleeten glauten globen chicken pompadown, keyboardism in da void, hate the Pres when he does nothing, hate him when he some something, bombin' da ISIS, Egyptian Goddess oh my what hotness. Catch 22, Lunatic Fringe, won't let ya kill dat lafta.
    2923) Message boards : Politics : So, where is the thread against Islamic violence? (Message 1568126)
    Posted 6 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Almost as soon as the troubles in Gaza blew up, we got the " The Israel and Palestine conflict" thread, with lots of criticism of Israel's response.

    The title asks the question, give us your answers, or do I have to assume the worst?


    Hmmm, I think you created it?

    Next, "where's the thread on Israeli's who like Palestinians but hate Hamas" or "Muslims that stand up against violence", right?

    Sir, these things have been discussed, at least somewhat. So, why the need for a separate thread?
    2924) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567549)
    Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I went on a wondering hike, I began to wonder if I'd known your enemy in a family way or was I loosing the spelling battle?
    2925) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567372)
    Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posting to re-title.
    2926) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567369)
    Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Es, but, it was meant as an invitation to one person at first.
    2927) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567343)
    Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Return to topic.

    Just for the sake of clarification, what is the topic Sarge?

    "For Dena" doesn't give me a lot to go on.
    I'm guessing that for Dena the topic is to define socialism,
    but for the rest of us is the topic " ignore this thread "?
    If so then i've not stayed on topic.

    Sorry.


    If you wish, I can certainly rename the thread. Since Dena has indeed joined in, that invitation is no longer needed.

    As my response to betreger points out, we should not focus on a "definition" so much as getting straight what Marx said. As I've been trying to say, if socialism is an enemy, one must know the enemy, not what some radio/TV host tells us about the enemy.
    2928) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567341)
    Posted 5 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While I await a response to my long post and we wait for Dena to return, or just in general a return to topic, would anyone like to know of a little "experiment" I ran within a year of taking the course I described and why the results lead me to beileve there's a problem with socialism others do not mention?
    2929) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1567256)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is Lady al-Qaeda - the woman all jihadists want.
    Mother of three Aafia Siddiqui, 42, was the only woman on America's list of the world's most wanted terrorists before she was arrested by security forces in Afghanistan in 2008.
    Siddiqui studied cognitive neuroscience at Brandeis University located in Waltham, Massachusetts.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui
    Weird don't you Think?


    Look, Dena! Look at Siddiqui the socialist.

    Evil - yes. I haven't seen anything that indicates she is a socialist.


    I claimed it. Isn't that enough?
    2930) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567248)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Return to topic.
    2931) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567048)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A man who LOVES George Carlin can't be bad:)

    Clyde is a classical assumer, as Gary has so aptly shown on multiple occasions.
    Until people on multiple fronts (i.e., including outside this "supposed forum" (ha ha, now I sound like Batter Up!)) describe me in the same way at least 3 times (triangulation), I shall ignore Clyde's character assassination of me. I shall also recognize he lacks a sense of humor.

    P.S.-he also like to talk about the tactics of a person losing an argument, which is high-larry-us, given the opening post asked a question and then the o.p. has only made one post debating the response(s) and no one has addressed the issues in that response. Anywhom, I'm gonna go take a Prevacid now.

    P.P.S.-it is also high-larry-us to describe 5 to 8, approximately, as multiple. It's more than a few, but nothing like his exaggeration. He has also not been PMd since he was plonked. His post being responded to was only made visible by someone not plonked that quoted it. The forum developers should really upgrade based on our plonk lists, eh?

    Sigh... (Suck in Swedish)
    Personal attacks...
    Who are interested to read all that postings?
    Boring.
    It is so easy to ignore all that postings.
    Why do you dont use PM instead?
    Last resort is to x-mark that postings.


    Clyde issues personal attacks without realizing he is guilty of doing what he calls others out on. I, on the other hand, am fully aware of my humorous zany remarks and how he misconstrues them for attacks.

    Many here have had trouble with my zany remarks, but, when they read enough, they understand where I am coming from. Some of us could be friends.

    I have won many over.

    I do not expect Clyde will be one of these and I will not put out excessive effort to do so.
    2932) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567023)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, I see he was posting as I modified and PPsed some more. I'm sure he'll want to go back and read my additions as he is obsessed with every post I make. Yes, that's the price of me being too sexy for my shirt. Anyway, thankfully, his newest post plonk/invisible to me. I hope the rest of my thread shall remain Clyde-quotes free. :)
    2933) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1567013)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michel, it would seem Clyde is trying to lead you off topic.
    As he is or was a police officer, he was or is a person in a position of a great power/authority. I advise you to consider: we should not trust police officers simply because that is the job title. Power corrupts and they have power, plus guns and tazers. Let their history of words and deeds speak for them.
    In the meantime, be very wary of the Clyde. He has admitted he is posting for fun, not serious important discussions during his semi-retirement.

    My Police Career, which you have an Obsession, and ALWAYS mention - is less than 50% of my adult working career.

    Sarge...

    I haven't responded to your multiple PM's to me, for a simple reason.

    You are the Classical 'shoot the messenger' when losing an argument, as your above post shows.

    In one of many-many-many of my Post's, I did say it was 'for fun'. Please don't continue you Classic Left/Right Wing Misinformation Campaign against other's.

    Can a Left/Right Wing 'Believer' discuss the issues?

    In my experience...

    A man who LOVES George Carlin can't be bad:)


    Clyde is a classical assumer, as Gary has so aptly shown on multiple occasions.
    Until people on multiple fronts (i.e., including outside this "supposed forum" (ha ha, now I sound like Batter Up!)) describe me in the same way at least 3 times (triangulation), I shall ignore Clyde's character assassination of me. I shall also recognize he lacks a sense of humor.

    P.S.-he also like to talk about the tactics of a person losing an argument, which is high-larry-us, given the opening post asked a question and then the o.p. has only made one post debating the response(s) and no one has addressed the issues in that response. Anywhom, I'm gonna go take a Prevacid now.

    P.P.S.-it is also high-larry-us to describe 5 to 8, approximately, as multiple. It's more than a few, but nothing like his exaggeration. He has also not been PMd since he was plonked. His post being responded to was only made visible by someone not plonked that quoted it. The forum developers should really upgrade based on our plonk lists, eh?
    2934) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1566972)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't be jealous that I look this good.


    Get a haircut !!

    LOL


    Totalitarianists insist on uniformity. The pdf here is not uniform and the likelihood of that occurrence in the next 3 months = 0.

    Now, please read and response to my long hair ... er, long post.
    2935) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1566784)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keyboardism.

    Yep.

    Get Social.

    Pound till ya drown.

    ' '


    u da mensch. post on, brouddy. ur insight on dis one dazzled meh eben mo DAN USUAL.

    razzle dazzle tango
    2936) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1566782)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michel, it would seem Clyde is trying to lead you off topic.
    As he is or was a police officer, he was or is a person in a position of a great power/authority. I advise you to consider: we should not trust police officers simply because that is the job title. Power corrupts and they have power, plus guns and tazers. Let their history of words and deeds speak for them.
    In the meantime, be very wary of the Clyde. He has admitted he is posting for fun, not serious important discussions during his semi-retirement.
    2937) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1566738)
    Posted 4 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “Socialism in practice ends up with two classes of people, the haves and the have not.”

    Where is your evidence of this statement?
    Replace first word with capitalism; is there a difference to your claim?

    “We are seeing the United States government evolve in to this form of socialism and the proof is the Washing[ton] DC area. While the entire country as been feeling the effects of the depression/recession for over 6 years, Washington DC has had a booming economy.”

    Have you been there?
    Where are your supporting links?
    My Dad lived there from 1997 to 2013. My Uncle and his family have been there since 1982. Not in government, though. I have a sense of what many people there are like; well-educated and hard working.

    “About a third of the people are receiving some form of welfare from the government.”

    In D.C. or around the country? In either case, where are your supporting links?

    “Common core is proving to be a way to control our thinking.”

    Prove your statement, as well as see below regarding education.
    For this statement, as with the “New Math” post-Sputnik, I get a kick out of people who were in school at the time saying they didn’t get math because of the reform when, in fact, the reforms were not country-wide by any means. It was barely implemented before it was scrapped! (If you wish me to locate support for this claim, I’ll look it up again.)
    So, not being in K-12, but dealing with results, I will claim, “Common Core” is a plan, barely beginning, not implemented across the country in full as of yet and so I find your claim … what, non-sequitur?

    “The IRS is controlling elections by eliminating the opposition's voice.”

    As time goes by, this may or may not be true, but I suppose some of you will think what’s good for the goose is good for the gander and, when a Republican is president again, won’t be too upset if the IRS gives upstart liberal groups too much scrutiny.

    “The EPA is controlling land use and the economy with carbon dioxide restriction.”

    Hmmm, I guess lots of people are affected by this in their daily lives and that’s it really crippling our country’s businesses that have chosen to stay here. Or, not. Did you hear about the politician that criticized … which company was it, CVS? … for not sending most of their business overseas? I guess because them doing so would’ve been an embarrassment for Obama, this Republican was willing to call them traitors for keeping an American business in the U.S.A. How ridiculous!

    “Wall street and the banks are not only restricted as to what they can do but they are required to contribute to liberal causes as the result of an over active department of Justice.”

    Forced to contribute to liberal causes? What?!? This certainly requires a supporting link. The uproar over such a thing would be most likely far louder and far wider than Hobby Lobby seeking exemption to a part of the A.C.A.! Think about it. We get news from each other on this site, or friends of various beliefs and political leanings on social media sites. I have plenty of friends on the “right” of my somewhat center standing and no one in person or online has mentioned that banks are forced to contribute to liberal causes.

    All your comments about what’s going on in the U.S.A. … sorry, but I think if we are moving away from the Republic … or Democracy (I know, I know, you want the first and rue the last 90 years), then we are moving towards fascism or feudalism.

    Now, we get to where you really address the question! Please concentrate the bulk of your responses, Dena and others, to my following responses and only to my responses above if you can somehow link the topics.

    “Russia applied Marx's teachings with a even more damaging result.”

    Yes. Yes, they did. And, without re-reading the thread, I believe Michel (Мишель) has already addressed this. But, I will re-iterate; Marx wanted socialism to be applied to an industrialized country! The Russia of the time of Tsar Nicholas was not industrialized or it was barely beginning. One piece of evidence I provide is the book “Nicholas and Alexandra”. (It paints Tsar Nicholas II as mostly a tragic figure. If I recall correctly, it gives a good description of what the country was like, Nicholas’ strengths and weaknesses, successes and failures and how Alexandra (Oleksandra? Sasha?) was drawn in by Rasputin in trying to help her hemophiliac son. Rasputin is a clear example of a figure from a pre-industrial society. In any case, so, small wonder socialism (actually, it was communism they got, see below) failed.

    “Germany attempted it and we had WWII.”

    Wrong. Again, Michel addressed this, but I’ll say it again, Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist or communist. I believe I have posted before, why was the USSR allied with us and not Germany if they were both socialist countries? I suspect Hitler and his cronies knew exactly what they were doing when they chose their name. including the Germanic equivalent word of “socialist” to hide what they truly were.

    Some of us have stated in posts over the years here that socialism and fascism (or communism and fascism) are diametrically opposed.

    Gary may have given us a better way to express things in the discussion. Rather than a one-dimensional spectrum, he has talked about putting things in a two-dimensional matrix, where one direction includes one extreme as totalitarianism. (Gary, post in this thread!)

    I have listened to folks like Glenn Beck who must be willfully equating socialism (communism) with fascism simply because both had/have the totalitarianism aspect and I suspect to deliberately confuse their listeners/watchers. (As an alternative to Gary’s matrix, another way I view it is to tie negative infinity and infinity together in the one-dimensional spectrum/number-line and that point of gluing is where the extremes have become totalitarianism. Also note that socialism is not communism. Communism is the totalitarian extreme of socialism. Anyway, with the two extreme points glued, maybe they start to seem the same, and just as bad, but they were not arrived at by the same routes.)

    “Socialism almost destroyed England until they moved away from it.”

    I get a kick out of readers of “1984” that did/do not realize that Orwell was a socialist. So, yes, there’s one piece of evidence socialism got a fair hold in England. Whether it nearly destroyed them or whether they did/are move/moving away from it are claims that require supporting links. As our UK posters have talked about, surveillance of the public has increased greatly, for a longer amount of time than here in the USA (or they’ve been aware longer). That points towards totalitarianism. Is it towards fascism or communism, though?

    Many posts in the thread have talked about stealing from the hard-working individuals and giving to the lazy ones. I wish I had my copy of his book with me. (I had to read it in college. More on that below.)

    One, to the best of my recollection, it was Marx’s belief, right or wrong, that the great majority of people want to work! If I am remembering correctly, then does that surprise you? (By the way, even if he said that, again, his belief could’ve been wrong or the implementation of socialism was never implemented as he suggested. I’m not going to sit here and type out some claim, let alone trying to justify it that “Socialism will be tried correctly somewhere and work this time.” As I said, I am not a socialist.)

    Does the following also surprise you? “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need[s]”. You left out half of that and focused on the “lazy masses”. (My phrase in quotes.) If my recollections are correct, does it change how you follow up with comments about what socialism is? If so, how? If not, why not???

    “In case you didn't know it, Karl Marx wouldn't have been able to produce what he wrote if it weren't for the fact that his man friend supported him. Karl wasn't much of a worker and preferred to hang around the bars and talk politics than do a day's work.”

    For how you finished this paragraph, see my last two paragraphs. This seems to be a wonderful statement to discredit a person, but, again, you have not provided us supporting links, just two claims.

    (Are you also trying to suggest he was gay or bi with the phrase “man friend”?)

    A few years after I read “The Communist Manifesto”, I read Limbaugh’s “The Way Things Ought to Be” and “See, I Told You So!” (This probably surprises many of you. If you’d like to know the story behind why, I’ll tell you. Again, this should be evidence towards my somewhat centrist stance.)

    Given that Limbaugh had already been on the air a number of years (his TV show was only on the air maybe a year, and yes, I did watch some of it, too), I am willing to bet he was able to churn out those two books fairly quickly. I do not think much of what he said was new. Some of it we may have agree with. What took maybe a little time was adding his sensationalistic spin on it; throwing in a word like a femin4z1 here and there, for example. (Another attempt at conflation of two different things.)

    Have you ever tried to write something of significant length? Not a post here; not a 20 page paper for a high school or college class which requires mostly synthesis of the ideas of others and maybe a little opinion at the end and with no original research to report? (I no longer consider reading and synthesizing research; that is a literature search and synthesis.)

    I am willing to bet Marx needed time freed up in order to write because what he wrote was pretty radically new. See how well you do working 40, or even 80! hours a week and producing a new original work. You might need some NoDoze … oops, 5-Hour Energy for that, these days, and we know that stuff is junk.

    “As for the United States, we did it to ourself. In the late 1800's, We decided we lacked a good university system and the lack of skilled people was holding us back as a country. The solution to the problem was simple. We would send our best and brightest to Germany for a world class education. This worked out well for the engineering students but it was a disaster for the political science students. They get mixed up in the German Marxist movements and brought it back to the United States.”

    I mentioned above I had to read “The Communist Manifesto” in college. It was my junior year. All students there took 3 core courses in the first 3 years and the third year was on the 1850s or so on and how the works developed then did or did not shape things as we saw them in 1989 or 1990. The professor I had that 3rd year was an open socialist.

    Have you been to college? Either way, what makes you think professors are not argued against, particularly when it is a course on history or political science and the topic is socialism? You think all those poor college age students that went to Germany in the late 1800s were “sucked in”, apparently? Oh, come on! You really think there weren’t people among that group of students that wouldn’t debate/argue just like you do now and that such students do not exist today? At times, there may not be enough of them, but they are there! Sometimes they are legion! And often, whatever the size of the group, at least a few speak up!!! I have seen it from both sides and it does not even have to be in classes like history or political science. I think you seriously need to reconsider and revise what was happening in the USA and around the world in the 1880s to 1920s or so and what direction it has sent us in, or at least the strength of the movements.

    ‘Nuff said for the moment.

    P.S.-betreger, please don't be so literal about my opening post. Defining it depends on what Marx actually first said. If socialism should be an enemy, known thine enemy, not what Glenn Beck claims about your enemy, right?

    P.P.S-Dena, what you posted over the past few years seems to indicate the power of someone like Glenn Beck over your high school education, which I am sure was nowhere near as liberally influenced as you might claim, based on what seems to be your age range.
    2938) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1566362)
    Posted 3 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What good would a singular definition be?
    The USA is heading towards Capitalist Feudalism.
    Russia is becoming a Capitalist Autocracy.
    China a Capitalist Socialist Plutocracy.

    Whatever the Europeans have they're the only ones taking Democracy seriously.

    Good observations and totally off topic. This thread asks for a definition.
    Daddio has an idea but he does not define anything he only describes a few things. IMO poor form for a university professor.


    Don't worry about that.
    I'll try to respond before the week is up, despite being a bit busy and ill.

    Daddio's posts are ok.
    Michel has done the best so far to counter her answers.
    There are CLEAR errors and Dena, you are re-hashing misunderstandings you stated when you used to post.
    Maybe we can get Gary to come on and talk about "the matrix" again. It really fits.

    P.S.-I'm not a socialist, but I'd sure rather people get straight what they are fighting against.
    2939) Message boards : Politics : Know thine enemy (Message 1565982)
    Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dena.

    Define socialism.

    You'll probably be wrong, so most of us will ignore this thread. :)

    Have at it and have fun!
    2940) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1565981)
    Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is Lady al-Qaeda - the woman all jihadists want.
    Mother of three Aafia Siddiqui, 42, was the only woman on America's list of the world's most wanted terrorists before she was arrested by security forces in Afghanistan in 2008.
    Siddiqui studied cognitive neuroscience at Brandeis University located in Waltham, Massachusetts.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui
    Weird don't you Think?


    Look, Dena! Look at Siddiqui the socialist.
    2941) Message boards : Politics : If we could remove ... (Message 1565980)
    Posted 2 Sep 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While it wouldn't eliminate all of our problems, the majority of our major problems would be eliminated if we could eliminate evil. That is a human trait that serves no useful purpose and causes much harm.

    In the same vein as "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter", Evil, to a large degree, is in the eye of the beholder.

    Just where do you start and where do you stop in the elimination process ?

    T.A.

    The concept of evil is pretty simple. It is defined by the 10 commandments but if you want a simple definition, evil is to harm another for personal gain. While evil is defined by christianity, other religions have the same concept. It's a socialistic idea to think evil is relative because it isn't. Now many people in history who were evil didn't consider themselves evil. We have seen examples in Germany, Russia, China and many other countries where I am sure the leaders thought they were doing the best thing they could for their country but killing millions of innocence people just to get them out of the way can't be called anything other than evil.


    Enjoy Heaven and your 72 Virgins. :)
    2942) Message boards : Politics : The racial teachings of Rudolf Steiner. Founder of Anthroposophy and Waldorf education (Message 1564215)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well i haven't and after reading that i know why . Another crack pot .

    You don't have to be a brainiac to see it's all B/S Gooba Gaba

    Another arty farty person who thought he was better than every one else .


    I have very little time for so called ppl in the arts . Stuck up , pompuse , insulting nobody's .

    Politeness is a form of insult and i have no time for pretentious ppl


    Why, Glenn, so nice to see ye matey! I am sooo sorry you're offended by my well-formed, hyper-developed corpus callosum, allowing me to be both supra-logical and yet fairly artistically inclined. Thus, I shall politely decline from posting much. :)

    P.S.-as Cap'n Avatar used ta say ...












    "POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!"
    2943) Message boards : Politics : The Israel and Palestine conflict - Part 2 (Message 1564195)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope, Clyde is not representative of US USAians. :)

    I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

    The Left Wing Ideology cannot stand anyone pointing out their stupidly. I ALWAYS take their silly attacks as a compliment. Keep it up.

    Just wondering if there will be a response to this Post. If there is, it will, of course, be filled with Super Intelligent Thoughtfulness.

    On second thought. I almost forgot. Left Wing? Nah. Will not be Intelligent.

    :):):)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th3g7LwOrgg; screw ur left! HA HA HA HA HA!!!
    2944) Message boards : Politics : The Israel and Palestine conflict - Part 2 (Message 1564188)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

    You missed the deranged center and all those who are at right angles to your failed left-right world view.


    He's firing missiles at left angles to the reality of SEP fields with more spiritual fortitude than his Gorn heritage can muster and fight?

    Or shall we dub his new new screen name Anon 7, unforgiving/unforgiven?
    2945) Message boards : Politics : The racial teachings of Rudolf Steiner. Founder of Anthroposophy and Waldorf education (Message 1564184)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Live In A Hood Like This'n and Youse Gets Real Racial Real Fast.

    No Need fO nO Brainiac Sophist Readings.

    Nun Uh.

    ' ! '


    Awww, yeah, preach on, Bruthah DeAdly! Only youse n me knows bout dat hood! Vourse, mah hood was da farms where I was be shootin da 22z on da farm, hittin geese that liked dA saltinez. Please splain us ur hood?
    2946) Message boards : Politics : The Israel and Palestine conflict - Part 2 (Message 1564142)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope, Clyde is not representative of US USAians. :)
    2947) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1564137)
    Posted 29 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It looks like the woman had serious mental health problems rather than being "evil". She should have been sent to a psychiatric facility rather than prison as she wasn't responsible for her actions.

    Just as the guy who chopped-off that Reporter's head?

    He's sane? No.

    Is he responsible for his actions? Yes.

    That reporter had as much right to life, as the children.

    Using Religion/Ideology, Voices, etc., to excuse murderous and evil behavior: Is a dangerous road.


    You're drawing a correlation between two different issues and attempting to infer a simple and similar conclusion. A religious jihadist isn't mentally insane in the same way that someone suffering from schizophrenia is insane.

    Why aren't persons using Religion/Ideology suffering from schizophrenia?


    Because most of them are not claiming to literally hear the voice of their God, which would be a clear sign of schizophrenia. Most of them are claiming to be carrying out the work/word of God according to their interpretation of the scripture. That's a very minute but important distinction which makes all the difference in how we should handle each case.


    Ozz, apparently Clyde was a cop, or in his SEMI-retirement he is now a cop.
    He probably was among those in the early 80s that voted for reducing funding to psychiatric centers.
    It probably gave him more to do as a police officer, as people are more intent on criminalizing the mentally ill, as used to occur.
    Wayne LaPierre squandered his chance to get a conversation about mental health going. Then again, he was probably going to try to get them put in jail.
    2948) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1562502)
    Posted 26 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, the laptop discussed earlier is the oldest of 3. While I let that one go on two WUs using stock apps ...

    The 2nd oldest is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6729536 and I assume, by some of the returned WUs' application listed, I still have optimized apps on there. Can anyone tell if I need to update them?

    This one is my newest. I've only had it about 2 months and have not bothered to install optimized apps on it yet. I'm going to bed soon, so if anyone call tell me what options I need to set, I can work on it early tomorrow morning.

    I also downloaded CPU-Z to perhaps give more info about the CPU and GPU, if that will help provide more info.
    2949) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1561740)
    Posted 24 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Re-asking, since no one addressed it yet: is http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item114 still an ok place from which to get the optimized apps?
    2950) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1560909)
    Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is more worrying, why is your host got work for the opencl_ati_nocal_100 plan_class, your GPU doesn't have OpenCL capabilities, but does have CAL capability,
    So why is getting work for a plan_class that should only be used when NO CAL support is available, while OpenCL support is available.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5338308

    201 (0xc9) EXIT_MISSING_COPROC


    Claggy


    Are you referring to the two tasks which it claims I aborted?

    Yes, your GPU isn't OpenCL capable, while the apps that use that planclass only use OpenCL.

    Claggy


    Well, I am sure it's nothing I've done. I haven't installed the optimized apps yet, either. When I do, looks like I'll be getting them from http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item104 ... ?
    2951) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1560893)
    Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is more worrying, why is your host got work for the opencl_ati_nocal_100 plan_class, your GPU doesn't have OpenCL capabilities, but does have CAL capability,
    So why is getting work for a plan_class that should only be used when NO CAL support is available, while OpenCL support is available.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5338308

    201 (0xc9) EXIT_MISSING_COPROC


    Claggy


    Are you referring to the two tasks which it claims I aborted?
    2952) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1560863)
    Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like you just got 1 AP task to chew on.


    You are correct. Just after I responded to Rob, I rebooted the laptop to see if that would make a difference in helping along the rest. Two WUs being worked on, one with the assistance of the GPU.

    you have four project locations/venues available


    4? I would think it shows 3. My office computer (yes, I have cleared using the work computer for BOINC) has not run BOINC for months, do to some persistent issue with updating the BOINC manager.
    2953) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1560732)
    Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quite simple - it is trying to get task types that have been depreciated for some time.


    Rob, either I am not understanding your response or you did not read everything I said, specifically:

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72884&postid=1420638

    No, resetting the project won't take care of that. You can either delete app_info.xml and then perform a project reset, or ...


    That is what I have done.
    2954) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1560694)
    Posted 22 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The laptop mentioned in the beginning of this thread has, after several months of inactivity, been resurrected. All other projects have been set to No New Tasks. Yet, with S@H set to allow new tasks, none have downloaded.
    I updated to the latest version of BOINC manager.
    In notices, I saw messages similar to what I reported here, so I followed Ozz's advice again. Nearly 18 hours later and still no tasks have been downloaded.
    My plan is to run with stock apps for a bit, then get the optimized apps.
    2955) Message boards : Politics : Are humans born evil? (Message 1559034)
    Posted 19 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The NeoCortex has to Constantly Battle The Lizard Brain and The Old Mammalian Brain.

    If your NeoCortex is Damaged or Badly Formed, Evil can Take Hold. 'specially if you've Learned The Wrong Things.

    I'm Battling Right Now.


    I do hope your neocortex one day allows you to better connect your fingers to your brain and allow you to refine your typing skills.
    Whether you realize it or not...or care.

    Your betwixt and between posting style belittles what I think may be a fine mind.
    You have opinions. And are certainly not an idiot. Why post like one.
    Take this in stead, my friend.
    You have castigated me many times for my posting abilities or lack of same at times.

    I mean this to be a constructive suggestion to you.
    Revise what you think might be humorous or amusing and start posting how you really think, man.
    I believe you have a lot to offer without the nonsense of trying to glean what you are trying to say within the chaff.

    You can do this, I know.

    Give it a try, maybe?
    It may mean giving up a little, but you can rise above that.


    His posts are pure genius. Genius, I tell you, man! We bow before his mighty brain. May we ever hope to be able to post something one-tenth as brilliant as he.
    2956) Message boards : Politics : Energy channeling herbalist nut job (Message 1556532)
    Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    2957) Message boards : Politics : Energy channeling herbalist nut job (Message 1556531)
    Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela...

    I'm just like you.

    I will, in a calm, moderate voice, say EXACTLY what I think, to 'nut jobs' like you had. Some get very belligerent. But I just get 'calmer', and they sometimes leave. Sometimes very loud and profane (just shows what they really are).

    Interestingly. Immediately afterwards, people come up to me thanking, or agreeing with me. But, not during the incident.


    Perhaps it was like this, where former Scientologist Tommy Davis pushed the buttons of British journalist John Sweeney? The nutter being the parallel of Sweeney, except Sweeney was prodded. Hmmm.
    2958) Message boards : Politics : The Israel and Palestine conflict (Message 1556527)
    Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How would YOU defend your Family/Country against those who wish to Exterminate those who aren't THEM?

    Yeah yeah, you have asked that question a dozen times now. You know my answer.

    Why don't you answer your own question? How would you defend against people who wish to exterminate you. If your answer is self defense through the use of deadly force then you have justified the actions of Hamas as much as the actions of Israel.

    Still refuse to answer WHAT YOU would do. Not what you WOULD NOT do.

    Therefore. One MUST surmise you are admitting losing the argument.


    Clyde's demands for ideas from others are ... ?
    Clyde's selective reading is ... ?
    Clyde is ... ?
    Further responses to Clyde will be ... ?

    Please folks, erect your S.E.P. fields around him.
    Drop the E from that acronym and you have, in Scientology, ... ?

    He has admitted what he is doing. Stop wasting your time with him. Keep calm, post on, to nearly everyone else here who is legitimately trying to express their thoughts, ideas and concerns.
    2959) Message boards : Politics : Energy channeling herbalist nut job (Message 1556522)
    Posted 14 Aug 2014 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela, I am surprised you did not erect an S.E.P. field around the nutter.
    2960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437760)
    Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodbye.
    2961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437688)
    Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blurf, auto-IP detecting? That'd be easy to get around, wouldn't it? One for a computer at home and one for a computer at work.
    2962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437562)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am sure this is hyperbole. When we asked months back if that was a banishable offense, we were told no. I am sure if the previous poster would review his e-mail records, he would find the screen name was not the reason for it.
    2963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437558)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW. If you see a thread of a troll, don't write in this thread.
    Just let him write, don't care about.
    Don't feed him.
    He will die of starvation.

    That is about the best advice there is for handling many types of posters.


    But you post in my Waiting for Godot threads! :)
    2964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437539)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodbye.

    Computers are on NNT.

    PM notice is off.


    :(
    2965) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437537)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Barrel scraping tonight?

    ID, you are successfully demonstrating that your argument is circular by using the same flawed sources in an attempt to "prove" two ideas that need to be handled in very different ways.

    Others might say you are "spamming" these boards by repeating the same links in such a short period of time, so be aware of this please.


    Not might. I do. He put the very same links in his thread and them spammed mine.
    2966) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1437496)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Intelligent Design
    is unscientific, because it is not testable or
    falsifiable. It makes claims about events that were not
    observed and can never be re-created.

    ...Sci-Am.


    Pssst. THAT thread is over <=== here.
    2967) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1437473)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What predictions does "intelligent design theory" make, that can be tested?
    If the designer is no longer actively meddling in this Universe does that mean that she's dead?


    One of their predictions is "there will be no junk DNA" (and, perhaps, no vestigial organs/appendages?).

    If we remove a vestigial tail, does a human no longer function?
    2968) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437465)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Frankly it is...

    in error? Your previous post? Thank you for your admission and good day. :)
    2969) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437456)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The previous post is in error.

    1) The poster does not provide his own logic, but the arguments of others.
    2) It shows a deep misunderstanding of what circular reasoning is.
    3) The poster is now on a campaign of "you hate ME, so you ruin my threads". I'm so glad you posted this, because I was strongly thinking of posting the following.

    It is you, sir, that have ostracized yourself. You (and Guy) were (both) offered friendship (such as it can be online only) by me, publicly and in private messages. Because I, and others, do not agree with you 100% ... well, maybe a lower percent, because clearly your other ally, with a new name each month or so, does not believe in everything you do ... you insult us and call us enemies. (See Guy's posts regarding Salinsky's rules. He uses the term enemy.

    4) This thread is not about evolution. If you wish to discuss evolution and your dislike of it, put it one of your threads.
    5) Therefore, your point about people having "faith" in evolution similarly cannot be discussed here.
    6) Think hard about what circular reasoning is. Realize that the term "irreducible complexity" assumes the conclusion, and thus, I.D. (as it currently stands) cannot be employing the scientific method.
    7) If you cannot discuss #6, "stand silent" until you can.
    2970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437421)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe I don't say thank you enough Donald, but I might miss the daily reminder to feed the Animals.
    There is Spam and there is SPAM. It is a fine line.

    An auto-locked thread could always be re-opened if the thread merits it. :)

    Regarding the FreeKibbleKat thread, Thanks, Uli, Chris, and Robert for the kind words. I do seem to have inherited that one from Mark. When he went on time-out during the 1st iteration, I was one of several who were keeping it going until Mark returned, and there were occasional comments from others about the Trivia questions. Not so much any more. This thread is one of Mark's GOOD ones, and both the "banished user" and "7 consecutive posts" rules would have taken out that thread and the good it does. And requesting the Mods to unlock the Thread on a weekly basis seems an unneccesary pain in the rear. As KibbleKat II is now over 400 entries, I'm thinking about opening KibbleKat III under my own sponsorship, with some sort of acknowledgement to Mark, as we do with Beets and Rocky's.

    Auto-hiding threads started by "banished" members seems to me a meat-axe solution where a scalpel would suffice - does potentially as much harm as good. SOME of those threads were good ones, with wide participation and enjoyment. Remember when Clayton had all his threads hidden, we were having some real fun in a couple of them, and that went away. And there is the "What are you watching on YouTube today" threads that many of us have posted to, or followed the links and enjoyed. If they don't already have it, I favor giving the Mods the ability to hide whole threads as well as individual posts for unacceptable content, but I think auto-locking "banished user" threads and "X Number of consecutive posts by the same user" goes too far.


    Donald:

    I used to read and post in the Cafe quite a bit more. Not so much, these days. My "home" here, so to speak, is this Politics and Non-SETI Science fora. Thus, my suggestions were based on recent and ongoing trends in those parts of the message boards. I hadn't even looked at the Kibble thread, though I like cats and in fact "rescued" a feral kitten a year-and-a-half ago. (She's quietly looking out a window right now.)

    I seem to recall the auto-hiding of any threads started by banished users being tried at one point. If I am reading your response correctly, I take it you remember that happening as well? You may be right about an axe versus a scalpel. I don't know.

    So, though I see no comments from mods on these ideas at the moment (but we have seen a former mod, James, comment), then perhaps if it were by some chance to go forward, maybe the rule could apply to certain fora?

    Specifically:

    Science (non-SETI)
    Discussion of other Science Topics

    Politics
    Discussion of Political Topics

    A thread started and only posted in by one person is not discussion (unless they like the look of their own type or have multiple personalities).
    2971) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Dark matter/Dark Energy (Message 1437417)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that there are far too many scientists that concoct theories to try to explain what they are observing. This formuala will work if we can find substance X, so lets go looking for X. Perhaps they should be taking the opposite approach. Let's use the LHC to find new particle and stuff, then lets see how they might fit into what we already know.

    There is no one single "God Particle" there will be many of them, each one a piece of the unfinished jigsaw. Scientific journals have to make a living. I predict that the LHC over the next few years will find many new particles that change what we already know.


    Darn that Leonhard Euler. Why did he spend his Sunday afternoons trying to walk the 7 Bridges of Koenigsberg? Who cares if it had a solution or not? Who cares if this started the field of study known as graph (network) theory? Who cares that it took 100 years or more to bear fruit via applications in such diverse areas as chemistry, scheduling, traffic flow and so on ... . He was just one of those far too many mathematicians trying to solve a silly riddle and concoct new areas of mathematics.
    2972) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437400)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still waiting to see 13 threads (including this 1, 12 otherwise) to be moved to a more appropriate forum category. ;-)

    Cheers.


    This thread is about science. The opening post, and Skil's just before yours, verify this.

    I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you there on this point, as this is more a debate on what the definition of science is, not science itself.

    But please do notice my remark in brackets as I'm your side as well. ;-)

    Cheers.


    I do realize you are. However, there is nothing political about what science is.
    If the "history of math" was not math, it would be taught in history or political science departments. So, why is taught in a math department? Because it is about math.
    2973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437399)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe I don't say thank you enough Donald, but I might miss the daily reminder to feed the Animals.
    There is Spam and there is SPAM. It is a fine line.


    An auto-locked thread could always be re-opened if the thread merits it. :)
    2974) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437289)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still waiting to see 13 threads (including this 1, 12 otherwise) to be moved to a more appropriate forum category. ;-)

    Cheers.


    This thread is about science. The opening post, and Skil's just before yours, verify this.
    2975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437258)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The ignore feature would work a lot better if:

    1) Rather than hiding the post of someone filtered, but providing the option to un-hide it, just make completely invisible, period. Also, do so for responses that quote the invisible post. (Whether the quote is in the post, use this whenever the quote button was used, where it shows what message number was being responded to.)
    2) Make threads created by someone filtered, making it completely invisible as well.

    Also, we have people who create threads for their vitriolic rants and raves, then proceed to be the only one posting in the thread. If a thread originator is the only posting in that thread for, say, 10 posts in a row, perhaps the thread should be auto-locked. Why should the S@H message boards be turned into niches for blogs?
    2976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1437169)
    Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Saw that. Hope he accepts.
    2977) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1437126)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Agreed Sarge. But there are also many people that should be banned but aren't.

    +1


    Many?
    2978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1437122)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hereby dedicate this thread to WinterKnight, whatever his final decision may be.
    2979) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1437120)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems that getting banned is no longer effective as it's becoming a 'badge of honour' so to speak.

    It seems that no one is learning from the past. Give the project a good enough excuse and we'll all end up banned. That'll be a sad day indeed.


    The "badge of hono(u)r" idea was discussed in 2006 or 2007.
    I would have to disagree, at least in this current climate. We know who tends to get banned these days. Since people that tended to get banned before tend not to, or not at all, these days, I would have to say a lot of people have learned from the past. Those that get banned these days are clearly breaking rules and it cannot be a badge of honor if they have no cheering section.
    2980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1437107)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess it should have stayed having fun WRONG, eh?
    2981) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437101)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Evolution is not the topic here.


    Now you're using Saul Alinsky's, Rules for Radicals, Of means and ends, rule #4 against me.

    Your very last line is a flame. You are trying to suggest I am a radical.


    Looks like you're starting to get it. I was pointing out the Saul Alinsky rule I'm using against you. I'm the radical in this case, not you.

    And now you're beginning to see that we're both radicals. Right?

    The question remains, which one of us was the radical FIRST?

    (Possible responses: Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals, On Tactics, Rules #2, #3, #5, #12 and #13. If it were anybody except you in here, I would expect rule #5. From you I'm expecting rule #12. Are you going to take the high road or the low road?)


    I am not going to follow any of your perceived rules.
    Evolution was not, is not and will not be the topic in here.
    Neither will faith be the topic here.
    2982) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437077)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And all I'm doing is pointing out that:

    Evolution = circular reasoning NOT = science

    You should recognize it for what it is.

    (Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals, On Tactics, Rule #4)


    You have not pointed out anything. If you had, you could defend it. You cannot.
    Evolution is not the topic here.
    Your very last line is a flame. You are trying to suggest I am a radical.
    2983) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437070)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "the term irreducible complexity assumes both the hypothesis and only one possible, desired, [sic] conclusion". This is circular reasoning. Even if they were doing experiments, the initial setup is flawed.


    Hmmm, hypothesis working towards one possible, desired conclusion...

    Random chance or something (or someone) started it in motion.

    You have to use doublespeak to explain doublespeak.


    "Circular reasoning" is well-defined. You are engaging in baiting and sophistry.
    "Random chance" and "something (or someone)" setting things in motion were not mentioned in the very first post of this thread. The flaw at the very core of I.D., circular reasoning, making it NOT science is the topic of this thread.
    2984) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437062)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, there are still many people claiming evolution is not science either.


    Evolution was not mentioned in the very first post of this thread.
    One "claiming" evolution is not science would have to state the correct definition of what science is and then show how that field of study violates the long accepted tenets of what science is.

    But if you look at the methods of science, you can see folks doing those steps in both evolution and in ID. They are just beginning to do those steps in ID. Why not allow them?


    The term "irreducible complexity" assume both the hypothesis and the conclusion. This is circular reasoning. Just beginning? What experiments have they performed, as opposed to analyzing the research of others? Even if they performed experiments, if the base is flawed, they would be building a house of cards.
    2985) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437059)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID is a subject that is being riduculed [sic] by many right now.]/quote]

    You will find no ridicule in the very first post.

    [quote]A quick google turns up many famous scientists who started out as crazy people as described by their peers:

    Galileo Galilei (The sun is the center?)
    Robbert Goddard (space travel?)
    Georg Ohm (linear equation for electricity?)
    Karl Jansky (radio astronomy?)
    James Lovelock (CFC's harming our atmosphere?)

    All absolutely crazy ideas at the time. They must be wrong. It's so obvious they were wrong at the time.

    Just to name a couple. They turned out to be right after some time and someone ELSE made their discoveries also.

    Many, many times people have published ideas in science that were initially rejected by their peers simply because they went against the accepted wisdom of the time. These people submitted their work to journals only to have them repeatedly rejected with comments from the referees stating that the author simply could not be right.

    Phillip Johnson (not a scientist), Michael Behe and William Dembski are unjustifiably getting the same treatment right now.


    The rejection put forward in the very first post is not on the grounds of "that's just so different from what we currently accept that it can't be right!" nor on the grounds of faith, religion or lack thereof. The rejection put forward in the very first post of this thread is "the term irreducible complexity assumes both the hypothesis and only one possible, desired, conclusion". This is circular reasoning. Even if they were doing experiments, the initial setup is flawed.
    2986) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437051)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have yet to find 1 legitimate Science Organization through all my googling on a certain person's subjects that back there is any real science involved at all with intelligent design.

    Intelligent design – a war on science.
    The “War on Science” documentary showed that there is no real controversy within science about evolution. This battle is actually occurring in the non-scientific world – the courtrooms, school boards, politics and the battle for the hearts of minds of the non-scientific population. Robert T. Pennock, professor of history and philosophy of science at Michigan State University, USA, pointed out that “at its base [the creation/evolution debate] is about religion and it is about philosophy.”

    Intelligent design/creationism may indeed be carrying out a war on science, but it is not a controversy within science. If anything it is a conflict within religion.

    Cheers.


    From what I can see, IDers do not perform experiments themselves, but "analyze" what researchers have published, looking for something that fits their conclusion.
    2987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437046)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I joined the project, I had no idea that the forums existed.
    I was just going to allow SETI to run on my machine.

    If postings are causing you grief, avoid the forums and just leave BOINC running in the background.


    +1
    2988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1437041)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Life is tough out there in the big bad world so when one needs a good belly laugh, pop onto these forums.

    I have only the one hypocrite filtered everyone else is free to spam me.

    Oh and in case anyone is wondering, well you will be wrong, it is not Chris S.

    Now there's a surprise.


    Darn. It's not me, either.
    2989) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437017)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PURE and REAL science. Undeniable. You must face it.


    hmmmm, where and who have I seen similiar words from?


    You might think it was from I.D. You'd be wrong, as I have defended what I have said, and succinctly.

    Now, if you wish to truly discuss this, then point out, if you can, how I am wrong. I am pretty sure you cannot. Not because of your abilities or beliefs, but because deep down, you know I am correct. Return to topic.
    2990) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1437016)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm sorry, you've mistaken the classic "Fahrenheit 451" for the classic "1984". In this current situation, the former is the one that is germane.
    2991) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437008)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For a number of reasons Guy, that I know you are fully aware of, I would support that view. But as Wiggo points out ID has made so many threads, that they will all have to go over.

    +1


    Don't even engage him. He knows full well my original post succinctly and eloquently explains what science is and why ID is not science. If he moves this thread, he will learn of the message board version of "Revelations".
    2992) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1437004)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should I point out an inconsistency? Ok, I'll do it to make a point.

    I don't see any science in here, so shouldn't this thread be moved to politics?


    Shall I point out that you must not have read the original post? Why, yes, I shall. Very very very much all science and nothing else. PURE and REAL science. Undeniable. You must face it.
    2993) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1436902)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This subject goes round and round and ends up nowhere. I guess it does make a nice space filler. I.D. doesn't want to face up to the fact that science and religion don't mix and the rest of us will never convince him.


    It does not go round-and-round. Science is well-defined. It is shown in the very first post how ID is not science.
    2994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1436894)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, ID can post all he wants and so can you. It doesn't need the approval of people with more brains and knowledge to do so, whether it is declared as science by whoever or not.s it.


    1) Spam is not allowed.
    2) Brains or lack thereof, and opinions, do not get to decide what science is. The definition and years and years and years of following that definition ... that is what decides what science is.
    2995) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1436878)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method?



    1) "They then seek to find CSI. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity (IC)." In the sciences, the terms must not be ambiguous. You cannot form a researchable question upon ambiguous terms. The term "irreducible complexity" assumes the observation and the desired conclusion.


    Evolution is not mentioned in this post.
    Religion/faith is not mentioned in this post.
    This post succinctly and eloquently provides the slam dunk: ID is NOT science. Using their own words, we examine their terminology ... their operational terms. Their operational terms are not well-defined. The term "irreducible complexity" jumps straight to the desired conclusion of "intelligent design". Very unscientific. At its very core. No post here has denied that nor shown it to be in error.
    Slam ... dunk ... game over.
    If it wasn't flawed at its very core, we could examine the fact that they do not conduct experiments but instead analyze the experiments of others from their own "understanding" and desire to show that there is "IC" and "ID". But, because it is flawed at its very core, it's not even worth following up on this part.
    2996) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1436843)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The topic is "ID uses circular reasoning, and is therefore not science". Specifically, the term "irreducible complexity" is ambiguous and, most importantly, assumes both the observation and the conclusion. Please return to topic. :)
    2997) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1436763)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL !!

    You see, my fellow Americans, the Brits DO have a sense of humor !!


    You have nothing, NO-thing, to say for your fellow Amerioans.
    2998) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1436757)
    Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't disagree with you. We are long overdue for a change in Washington DC. Get rid of all of them and start over with a clean slate.

    Libertarians will get their way soon.


    Hope most of them won't call me a THUG when I'm out one cold night with a hoody on. I know some of them are scared of long-haired dudes. Which is funny, because they're the hippies smoking legal weed.


    Typical Spin


    What a fracking joke, Mr. Typical. Time to block yer butt, just like somewhere else.
    2999) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436753)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3000) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436752)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. He started that thread March 13? This has only been open a few days!
    3001) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1436751)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Slam dunk.
    3002) Message boards : Politics : ID = circular reasoning NOT= science (Message 1436741)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method?



    1) "They then seek to find CSI. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity (IC)." In the sciences, the terms must not be ambiguous. You cannot form a researchable question upon ambiguous terms. The term "irreducible complexity" assumes the observation and the desired conclusion.
    3003) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1436733)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, as we see in my previous post, first bullet point: circular reasoning is NOT science.
    3004) Message boards : Politics : Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method? (Message 1436732)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does intelligent design theory implement the scientific method?


    It is poor netiquette to have 3 separate threads on the same topic all coming from the same poster.

    1) "They then seek to find CSI. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity (IC)." In the sciences, the terms must not be ambiguous. You cannot form a researchable question upon ambiguous terms. The term "irreducible complexity" assumes the observation and the desired conclusion.

    2) "If they find them [supposed evidence of IC], they can conclude design." No. Very unscientific. They should be calculating the probability it was due to design or the probability it was not due to design. (Now, how do they propose to do THAT?!?) Even if the probability it was not due to design turned out to be very low, it could still be not due to design! Perhaps a lurking variable has been ignored.

    3) " Language and machines are good examples of things with much CSI. From our understanding of the world, high levels of CSI are always the product of intelligent design." Who's understanding? Wait. What?!? OK, please find me evidence of the first humans that spoke and evidence that they designed language and how.

    From the table:
    4) "Similar parts found in different organisms. Many genes and functional parts not distributed in a manner predicted by ancestry, and are often found in clearly unrelated organisms. The "root" of the tree of life is a prime example." Why did the creator(s) choose to repeat themselves? Functional things could be made in so many ways! So, it must be they said, "Hey, we've found something that works. Let's stick without. We could go around being original for each and every life-form we create ... errr, design, but heck, we're ust happy we could do it this once."

    3005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goodbye (Message 1436712)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will not tolerate a project that allows pseudoscience on a science thread and have the moderators defend him and also not allow criticism of the moderators when they make unwise decisions.

    The moderators decisions are in opposition to SCOTUS, the main scientific institutions of the USA, UK and EU education policy on science and The Roman Catholic Church.

    So I am detaching all computers.

    Goodbye and wish you all the best.


    Too bad you did not read, or take to heart, my post.
    3006) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436702)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been banned before.
    How about you?

    working on it without success. They keep moving that danged line

    Banishment,
    Banishment,
    Oh purgatory,
    Where art thou,
    Try I must,
    Try I might,
    Why won't you let me in?


    Gary, seeing you banned would be odd and sad.
    3007) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436628)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And your idea of filtering users doesn't work because it just makes threads where the filtered person(s) post incomprehensible, so you end up reading the posts after all. Stupid idea.


    Good point.
    At the very least, I wish the posts were completely invisible, not something we could un-hide.
    3008) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436626)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The main focus I believe here is to allow as much participation as possible, thus, more WUs get completed. That's a fair goal, isn't it?


    I have said for, what, 7 years or so? I will never let what happens on these message boards effect my crunching. Never. So, WK, if you do, that's your choice, but I disagree with you. You are not talking to the project scientists here when it comes to most of this stuff. You may occasionally hear from them when taking a complaint to e-mail, or they may occasionally post in the fora.
    3009) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436620)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been banned before.
    How about you?

    working on it without success. They keep moving that danged line


    OMG. LOL!
    3010) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436566)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At what point do we begin to realize that the poster known as ID - and seemingly yourself - already have your minds made up and simply accuse everyone else of dishonesty in an attempt to show you how you've misunderstood something?


    Ozz, isn't that an example of this?
    3011) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436565)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NoName, I've already admitted (or pointed to an article) that verifies that ID is a relatively new movement and that it is currently a small group of people (compared to the evolution theory group).


    Please define "relatively new".

    If I disagreed with evolution and vehemently argued that it's a *belief* that we are here today because of a random role of the dice because it, too, has neither been proven nor disproven, and can't possibly be proven today, wouldn't I be treating you with as much closed mindedness as some of the folks in here are treating ID with his promotion of ID? All I see posted in here is that evolution *has been proven* yet no one points anywhere on the web that shows it *has* been proven.


    OzzFan and Bobby have, quite correctly, said "it is the best fitting theory for the evidence, until someone comes along and proposes something that fits better". Inductive science never proves in the sense of mathematical proof. But they can sure narrow down the probability of being incorrect.

    Quit placing me on your ignore list and removing me from your ignore list at random intervals and either choose to see everything I post or nothing I post or you miss things that I say and post things which indicate that.


    I have made no changes. Ever. My ignore list does not de-evolve and then re-evolve.
    3012) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436564)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michael Behe is a professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, but this is what the Biology Department say about his views.

    http://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/news/evolution.htm

    Department Position on Evolution and "Intelligent Design"

    The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.

    The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of "intelligent design." While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.


    So even his own department refuses to support his views.


    That should not be the key point. This is: I.D. "has not been tested experimentally".

    Lest the poster I.D. or a supporter say something now about aliens, S@H looks for evidence of attempts to make contact. It makes no assumption about whether aliens exist or not.
    Drake's Equation allowed for a probability, above 0, that intelligent species have arisen elsewhere, hence this follows.
    Given the detection of extra-solar planets ... none were known at the time of Drake ... so much the better, but still, no assumption has been made and gathering of evidence (or lack thereof) is what makes S@H scientific.
    3013) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436548)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If he bugs you, don't read what he posts. There is no reason to hide/lock/banish ID if the only reason is that some posters disagree with what could be a final conclusion that you disagree with. If that were the case, we'd need to hide/lock/banish just about everything except the Q&A and Cafe forums (if we want to be consistent).


    As "We Are Family" makes quite clear, it's not what he posts, it is how he posts. I will not provide evidence, because OzzFan has provided ample examples recently, in this very thread. When the evidence is there, there is no need to repeat it to those with eyes wide open.
    3014) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436528)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Until the poster known as Intelligent Design actually starts engaging in discussion, that is, answers direct challenges to his assertions and beliefs instead of accusing the entire message board of intellectual dishonesty, incompetence in understanding the pseudo-science called Intelligent Design, and bigotry, discussion will never be possible. If he is going to assert his beliefs are true and correct, he cannot take it personal when someone directly challenges him to provide additional proof or evidence from unbiased sources.

    Ultimately, I feel if the poster known as Intelligent Design is going to continue on as he does, it would be best if everyone simply ignored all of his posts and his false assertions and arguments. If the entire message board turned their back on him in response to his belligerence and denigrating accusations, then perhaps he'll get the message - because he's certainly not getting the message with banishments.


    +3

    Could we find evidence for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdiz0k0Rudw?
    3015) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436509)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Predictions?
    Place your bets.
    The science on this one is fairly sound. :)


    I was 100% correct, if only briefly.
    The beauty is, I will be correct, again and again and again.
    3016) Message boards : Politics : On the Origin of Codes, Computers, and Clocks... (Message 1436508)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So why is there such a strong demand to move this thread to politics? Does it really matter whether it remains in Science (non-Seti) or if it is moved to Politics? If so, why?


    Besides the other reasons given, the precedent set up from the very beginning of the Science (non-SETI) and Politics fora.

    By his own admission:
    Do not EVER attack my personal Faith again!


    We all know what this is about. Even you.
    3017) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436504)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been banned before.
    How about you?
    3018) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436463)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris, do you have 3 or 4 wall screens in your home?

    One in the bedroom due to space. I like TV's to look like TV's, not landscape pictures.


    Wow, you will never keep up with Guy & Mildred.
    3019) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436445)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides. I was more of a Heinlein, Zelazny and Ellison fan

    Emmerson, Lake & Palmer for me :-)


    Chris, do you have 3 or 4 wall screens in your home?

    [EDIT, a la Letterman]And now, a message for our friends in Texas [moves toward camera, gap tooth showing]NARW, indeed[/moves back]. That will be all.[/EDIT]
    3020) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436440)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which book ?

    [edit] Besides. I was more of a Heinlein, Zelazny and Ellison fan [/edit]


    Seriously? Did you not read the first few posts?
    Meanwhile, keep posting. I am sure it will edify him, with e "family" posting ad nauseum.
    3021) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436396)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's even more sad is not recognizing Bradbury.
    3022) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436395)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's really sad.
    3023) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436374)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thinks he's all that, using Glen Larson's word "frak!"
    Got the bag of chips, and onion dip, too?
    No? Didn't think so. :)
    3024) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436337)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Predictions?
    Place your bets.
    The science on this one is fairly sound. :)
    3025) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1436320)
    Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are those who think that life has nothing left to chance
    A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance

    A planet of play things
    We dance on the strings
    Of powers we cannot perceive
    'The stars aren't aligned
    Or the gods are malign...'
    Blame is better to give than receive


    Can we handle it?
    3026) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1435884)
    Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got a while to Thor's day here, but I'm getting ready.

    Hail Thor!
    3027) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435883)
    Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-all caps through a medium length paragraph, man? Wow. Bad netiquette, yo.
    3028) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435817)
    Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "You can CHOOSE from" (not "chose").
    And back on top!
    3029) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435810)
    Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ladies: note, this is a gender neutral thread. Except I'd have to call you sister, aunt, etc. ... .
    3030) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1435808)
    Posted 31 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Person.
    3031) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435793)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We shall not behold your mighty hand.
    Mighty is really weak
    when it only speaks,
    long after the fact,
    in an echo chamber.


    Frequency Unknwn Kenneth banging in his band,
    he lacks tact.
    His opinions are facts.
    His own self importance unfortunately still intact.
    Listen, in the chamber, they clamor.

    He only complains
    when it's the other side.
    Mind full of mush, faux decide.
    From both "sides"
    the tide
    that will drown him.

    His "side"
    shall not save him.
    3032) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435575)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This family it totally nuts!!

    Good to see you consider yourself part of the family.

    I'm the neighbour who plants leylandii along the fence.

    And I'm the one with the chain-saw.

    Nah, you're the crotchety uncle that had his dreams of becoming an (horror movie?) actor frustrated.
    3033) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435574)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This family it totally nuts!!

    Good to see you consider yourself part of the family.

    I'm the neighbour who plants leylandii along the fence.

    No, you're the young cousin.
    3034) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435422)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did ya hear the one about how the button clacker deliberately had the website set up to have glitches, so as to annoy the worm and drive him to more diatribes?
    3035) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1435421)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor caused our woes
    when he did chose?
    I think
    he drink.

    Hail Thor

    Indeed. Hail!
    3036) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435391)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Errrr, I'm a second Cousin, twice removed, once replaced, vertically homogenised, and I plead the Fifth Amendment. I can't help it if I'm on the email distribution list for family updates ....

    I didn't know you on that side of the pond had a Fifth Amendment to plead.

    Dear Uncle Gary: http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fifth_amendment.
    3037) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : CERN (Message 1435361)
    Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that would be science 'fiction' if you will.

    He is very much into fiction. ;)
    3038) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435325)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Errrr, I'm a second Cousin, twice removed, once replaced, vertically homogenised, and I plead the Fifth Amendment. I can't help it if I'm on the email distribution list for family updates ....


    You and Gary are uncles to me, Skil and OzzFan.
    3039) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1435324)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bottom feeder in the Mariana's Trench?

    Sure! Why not? LOL.
    3040) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435234)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do worms like sunshine?



    You raise the blade, you make the change
    You re-arrange me 'till I'm sane
    You lock the door
    And throw away the key
    There's someone in my head but it's not me.



    I'll vote for the insane party, please. Thank you

    Worms like moon light. though I keep my pants up. QWorm mating season is a busy time in the night time lawns of the world


    Usually the prime mover has allowed us to keep things under lock and key, underneath a civilized veneer, no?
    3041) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1435232)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    only if you're a reptile

    Maybe I am. :)

    Some might say you are lower than a reptile's belly. ;)


    There may be a few here that still think that. I have won over most, though. ;)

    you're no reptile. Your sweat and eye lids betray you.

    Darn.
    I wanted to be lower than a worm, even!
    3042) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : CERN (Message 1435149)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How long has it been running already, and the world's still here ... ?
    3043) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435139)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do worms like sunshine?
    3044) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1435042)
    Posted 29 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When listening to the band Tonic, I slow down, from 45 to 33 & 1/3, spielen the record, made of the same materials as petroleum ... oil ... eul ... Euler ... eulen.
    Tonic ... makes ... me ... sleepy.
    3045) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1435010)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gooback

    Could "gooba" of "gooba gabba" really be a slur ("goo back")?
    Nah, I doubt worms watch South Park.
    I'll keep searching.
    3046) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1434940)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    only if you're a reptile

    Maybe I am. :)

    Some might say you are lower than a reptile's belly. ;)


    There may be a few here that still think that. I have won over most, though. ;)
    3047) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434926)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The most endangered species,
    The honest man,
    Will still survive annihilation.
    Forming a world
    State of integrity,
    Sensitive, open and strong


    But what shall become of we jibber jabberers?
    3048) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434920)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey teacher leave the kids alone

    Well, I am a teacher, but is 'it' a kid?
    3049) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1434900)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops, I thought this was thread about NSA spying programs, which Obama just continued after Bush, so lib and con are equally bad, but some will just blame the other party particularly ... if ... hey, like my run-on-sentence?
    Anywho, since this must be about Syria, I shall exit now.
    3050) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1434898)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    only if you're a reptile

    Maybe I am. :)
    3051) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434897)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Can I mow your lawn?"
    "No!"
    "For God's sake, ma'am. Let ... the ... boy ... mow ... your ... lawn. He won't do ya no harm. Just let him mow your lawn, please?"

    Let ... the ... man ... have ... his ... thread?!?
    Is that how it works?
    3052) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1434818)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They have big "pretty" pictures of the Kardashians ... errr, Cardassians.



    That's hawt.
    3053) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1434794)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah! It was a good design, so that as you get older you can't read tabloid newspapers!


    People Mag is sure trying.


    They have big "pretty" pictures of the Kardashians ... errr, Cardassians.
    3054) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434778)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    gabba gabba doo doo . whatevs narf
    what are we doing tonight Brain?

    Same thing we do every night pinkie,
    try and take over the world.


    Right on. But, before tonight ...

    I do not like
    waking up,
    heading straight to work
    without strong coffee already in my cup.
    Forget green eggs and ham,
    this is what matters.
    3055) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434724)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Ding, dong, the Worm is dead!
    3056) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434723)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My internet persona is nice too. Anyone who doesn't think so is probably persisting in being openly wrong right where I can see them and point it out to them.

    ROTFL, another classic ES99 response :-)


    Es, could you tutor The Dull Meta-Critic Worm?
    3057) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434712)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Youse Looks Da Fool, and The Estranged Family Member, not me.

    Maybe if a certain person could communicate like an intelligent adult then we wouldn't be seeing a certain person play the part to perfection. ;-)

    Cheers.


    Mebbe heeba notba realizeba theba partba isba beingba playedba toba perfectioba?

    Meta-critic's realizing his reign of terror is just about over, and this is his very weak last gasp.
    3058) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434626)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1!!!
    ("'Can' it?" Oooh, multiple meanings!!! "Can it? Is IT able?")
    3059) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434590)
    Posted 28 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Well, if it isn't Mrs. Dead to me."
    3060) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434580)
    Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The rest of us, even with our differences ... we are family.


    No Family In Real Life are Together with Differences. 99.9999% of Families are Estranged.


    More unsubstantiated bull crap!
    http://www.apa.org/topics/divorce/
    Marriage and divorce are both common experiences. In Western cultures, more than 90 percent of people marry by age 50. Healthy marriages are good for couples’ mental and physical health. They are also good for children; growing up in a happy home protects children from mental, physical, educational and social problems. However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce. The divorce rate for subsequent marriages is even higher.


    [Emphasis added.]

    So, Please Keep The BS Down to a Minimum. Thank You.

    I knew Dat yOu cOuld.


    And I knew you couldn't.
    3061) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434578)
    Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm nice too.

    You forgot to mention that.

    Ok, fair comment. Es & Hev are two of the nicest and intelligent Ladies that it has been my pleasure to meet over recent years. It is South London's loss and Canada's gain I can assure you. I could post pics but she'd kill me and eat me on toast!


    I hear that's what families do, lol.
    3062) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434553)
    Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A poster by the name of Rush used to use that picture in his signature.

    Yes he did! I met him in London with ES99 when he was at the LSE. He and I used to be daggers drawn on the boards but in real life he was a nice guy. ...

    I'm nice too.

    You forgot to mention that.


    This has been rumored, but most of us have not met you. So, we only have your internet persona to go by. :) (Said to the lady who was surprised by Sarge's deep voice on Skype. LOL!)
    3063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : English as she is spoke (Message 1434515)
    Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just luv this :-)

    By the cringe!

    Slang


    Slang.
    3064) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1434513)
    Posted 27 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump to surpass abnormal equipment. Remember, most of us kind of like each other. :)
    3065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1433857)
    Posted 26 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was too slow to get a tissue. I've just sneezed all over my desk.


    Sweet!

    There is somtehing good about it isn't there?


    It gives you an excuse to clean it! :)
    3066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1433737)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was too slow to get a tissue. I've just sneezed all over my desk.


    Sweet!
    3067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1433706)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What was that? A sneeze? To the next table with you!

    This is Ahchoo, son of Ahsneeze.

    And these are my men.

    (Seriously? There isn't a better clip of that scene on Youtube than someone pointing a camera at a TV screen?)


    Excellent.
    And now, the impetus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBF-pqw0MFE.
    3068) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433695)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We like to post lots,
    we cannot lie.
    We hate spiders and bots,
    all you other posters (including meta-critic) can't deny!
    3069) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433629)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know it makes no difference
    To what you're going through
    But I see the tip of the iceberg
    And I worry about you...

    Cruising under your radar
    Watching from satellites
    Take a page from the red book
    Keep them in your sights


    The sky is falling.
    Chicken little,
    meta-critiquing from the sidelines,
    tells us, no,
    it's this crisis,
    not that one.


    I ... am I.
    Not that.

    What
    may appear
    might easily be explained.
    But given the situation
    of Fox News and meta-critic saturation ... .

    Are we keeping you occupied? ;)
    There, there, let the adults discuss the politix.
    3070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1433621)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi!
    3071) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : New galaxy 'most distant' yet discovered (Message 1433618)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What happened in the time from being able to speak until we could also write and record thoughts and history?

    Cave drawings.


    Hard to swallow.
    Speaking.
    Tens of thousands of years making cave drawings.
    Then ... BAM!!!
    Monoliths & megaliths?
    Nothing between?
    3072) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433614)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I'm asked :-)

    Send a PM, Chris. :)
    LOL!
    3073) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433613)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know it makes no difference
    To what you're going through
    But I see the tip of the iceberg
    And I worry about you...

    Cruising under your radar
    Watching from satellites
    Take a page from the red book
    Keep them in your sights


    The sky is falling.
    Chicken little,
    meta-critiquing from the sidelines,
    tells us, no,
    it's this crisis,
    not that one.
    3074) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : New galaxy 'most distant' yet discovered (Message 1433394)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you, too, are trying to suggest non-sequitur logic is being used in the non-rational thinking, then I think you're doing a great job! ;)

    Put it this way: we know wormholes are theoretically possible. If we somehow can open one and safely travel one, great. Which opens the doors to all those discussions about aliens, ancient or not. In the meantime, we have not one shred of evidence that wormholes actually exist, let alone that we can open one and travel through one. So, for now, it's wishful thinking. And, for me, I do watch "Ancient Aliens", because it's better than something like "Honey Boo Boo" or "The Voice."

    One thing one of their guest had, I think, correct is (for whatever reason): we have amnesia. What happened in the time from being able to speak until we could also write and record thoughts and history?
    3075) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433391)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoa Ted we're not in San Dimas anymore

    I think a PM from Chris can help explain the wavelength, eh?
    3076) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : New galaxy 'most distant' yet discovered (Message 1433316)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or be able to pass through a wormhole...

    I like to keep my mind open to these possibilities, as well as open to the idea a Nigerian prince e-mailed me with a monetary opportunity. :) [How's my Ozz imitation? :)]
    3077) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433294)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am just a worthless liar.
    I am just an imbecile.
    I will only complicate you.
    Trust in me and fall as well.
    I will find a center in you.
    I will chew it up and leave,
    I will work to elevate you
    Just enough to bring you down.


    Sounds familiar.
    Even if I have never heard it, reminds me of Liar.
    3078) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1433074)
    Posted 25 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Please Keep The BS Down to a Minimum. Thank You.

    Peddle the kettle,
    put your pedal to the metal.
    Know something, one thing?
    Nobody ... no-thing ... to give ya a medal.
    Pot picked up a cell phone,
    to call the kettle.
    Texting and driving.
    Now, the pot is dead.
    Not the kind of pot,
    to be smoked by head,
    and jock
    and Richie Rich prep
    all alike.
    Ask us not,
    to respect your hangover.
    Stream of consciousness,
    while your unconscious,
    thinking,
    What's the frequency, Kenneth?
    Bang and blame.
    Blame, blame, blame.
    NRA bang , bang, bang!
    Meta-critic's
    reign of terror
    now over.
    Let it rain, rain, rain.
    Let it rain down.
    On ... .
    If I saw you in Heaven ... .
    Wait.
    LOL!
    3079) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1432906)
    Posted 24 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A poster by the name of Rush used to use that picture in his signature.

    Yes he did! I met him in London with ES99 when he was at the LSE. He and I used to be daggers drawn on the boards but in real life he was a nice guy. I challenged him that he was just baiting posters because he was intellectually bored and he admitted it! We could do with more of his ilk around here :-)


    I never had a problem with Rush. We shared many long e-mails and private messages. I never let differences in beliefs be a barrier. A barrier arises when some express their views in a certain way. They will never be family. The rest of us, even with our differences ... we are family.

    3080) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1432697)
    Posted 24 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gooba gabba do
    for me and you.
    Vile words
    do not spew.
    Blahg blahg blahg.
    3081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1432695)
    Posted 24 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wasn't that the Higgs Boson? ;)

    No the Higgs Boson was really somtehing, my particle was really nothing.


    Mysterious...

    It could also be Mister-serious.


    No no, that's Godot, seriously;))

    Seriously really?


    I don't know...

    I don't know as well.



    Now what are we going to do *scratches head*;)

    I don't know...


    It's infectious!! ;)


    What was that? A sneeze? To the next table with you!
    3082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 10 Years Here, What You Got! (Message 1432409)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, Your still a newbie:)

    :P
    3083) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1432405)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor caused our woes
    when he did chose?
    I think
    he drink.
    3084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1432343)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    doing.


    Know-Nothing Parties should move along. Nothing doing here.
    3085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 10 Years Here, What You Got! (Message 1432057)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lets see what you've got, I just hit 10 years of crunching yesterday. I wish I kept this on my computer more than I did, but hey at least I keep coming back.


    14
    3086) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1432051)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That can be arranged.....

    That sounds ominous. :)
    3087) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1432031)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Influence of Tonic Force is Strong.
    To Ted Nugent listen not.
    With Audio off Watch Fox News.


    Tonic is Toxic.
    unless one "Break[s] Down Walls", "If You Could Only See" them. Sometimes, "You Wanted More", even a lil bit of that sweet American pie.
    3088) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1432030)
    Posted 23 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this is the real world Neo.


    Could a worm survive by bread, water and maize alone, outside the Matrix?

    nice one, Ted! Most Excellent!!!


    What if Geoff Tate and James LaBrie were to do a duet of "Real World" and perform it for the Tea "Party, excellent!"?

    love that song and It would be a huge duet. such strong voices


    Duet already happened.
    Geoff's voice not so strong anymore.

    Does the dull worm recently remind you of the saddled m?
    3089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431937)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    that we brainiacs on both sides of the pond have such time on our hands that we can post ad nauseum


    Someone call?

    Brainiacs is a British reality show that aired on Sky One from 13 November 2003 to 30 March 2008. During each episode of the show, numerous experiments are carried out to verify whether common conceptions are true (such as whether it is possible to run across a pool of custard) or simply to create impressive explosions. The show centres on the three core branches of science for the key stages in British education: chemistry, physics and to a lesser extent, biology. The experimenters on the show are referred to as "Brainiacs", and each episode usually finishes with the destruction of a caravan.


    But the term has been around for decades.
    3090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431935)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could it also be known as the "Seinfeld" thread?

    That may or may not be appropriate. Shall we yadda yadda yadda over it, just in case?
    3091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431934)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So then, a difference that makes no difference is no difference?

    Daniel Graystone thinks so.
    3092) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1431932)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep! don't like lager!


    I'll take a Killian's Red, please? :)
    3093) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1431931)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I cant argue with that logic.


    Is anyone else reminded of Mark and the strong tonic there?
    3094) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1431853)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warning --- straight line ahead --- danger Will Robinson
    Yup, I'd guess at about late 60's. Rather sad really to end up being such an obsessed and bitter old man. I'll try and make sure it doesn't happen to me :-)

    I suggest you redouble those efforts ...


    Hey, Chris is only bitter, not obsessed! :)
    3095) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1431832)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you really want to continue this?


    You do. ;)
    Indeed, keep speaking.

    I don't care what you think you know about my experiences, memories, knowledge and wisdom. ;)
    But, keep speaking.
    Reveal the maize, brouddy.


    As long as you are learning something.


    Ah, so you wish to be a teacher, having retired from something else in 1991?
    It must be difficult, filling these past 22 years, eh?


    Must be hell to need a job to have a life. Needing a boss to give you something to do. Sad really.


    Why do you speak of non-existent Sheol? :)
    Why do you speak of bosses that need not direct the self-directed?
    Why do you suppose life is not filled with other things?
    Why are you a poor psychiatrist? :)
    3096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431721)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris S., get in here!
    We have to prove our favorite meta-critic correct, that we brainiacs on both sides of the pond have such time on our hands that we can post ad nauseum. :)
    3097) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1431692)
    Posted 22 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this is the real world Neo.


    Could a worm survive by bread, water and maize alone, outside the Matrix?

    nice one, Ted! Most Excellent!!!


    What if Geoff Tate and James LaBrie were to do a duet of "Real World" and perform it for the Tea "Party, excellent!"?
    3098) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1431639)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this is the real world Neo.


    Could a worm survive by bread, water and maize alone, outside the Matrix?
    3099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last post for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time then. (Message 1431638)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mark, it takes a man to admin [sic] when he is wrong. For that, I commend you. Seems there are fewer and fewer these days who are willing to stand up and admit when they're wrong.


    Bull. Learned to do that around age 5. Second, one admission is good, maybe a second. Third and beyond? Maybe something's being missed?

    To the Canadian's. Having been born just the other side of the St. Lawrence River, and having lived in northern states for 37 of 45 years, I reserve the right to go on aboot posting as I like and am an honorary user of "eh". :)
    3100) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1431560)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Saw those guys at a small Midwestern University circa '89 or '90 touring with soundgarden and Voi-Vod.

    Less than 15 people in attendance at the show. I went for VoiVod and left a lifetime fan of Faith.


    Sweet.
    I think the floppy fish was some sort of political statement.
    3101) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1431558)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Care to guess his age Sarge?


    I believe he said he retired from the military. I know military folk are hard-working, so they retire as early as 35 and 40. I figure he's about your age, Chris. (Other comments of his indicate this as well.)
    3102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431555)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing is a very deep subject that scrambles my mind if I think about it too hard.


    Let us calmly reflect on the nihilism of it all.
    3103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun RIGHT! (WFG: Mach III) (Message 1431476)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread, a continuation of "Having Fun Wrong (WFG: Mach II)", which may now be closed, is a thread about NOTHING! This will be to the ever-increasing enjoyment of our favorite meta-critic.
    3104) Message boards : Politics : Goober*Care and The CONtroversy Brewing About The American Goober*s Scammed Into 'it'. *Goober aka Stupid Person aka American Public(or So Your Leaders Say[In Private, of course]) (Message 1431472)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn it, Barry HUSSEIN O'Bummer, why did you not clack your buttons on the podium EVERY time you lowered your arms after making a point? It was that distraction that made you powerless over me. Now, I am so charmed by you.
    3105) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1431406)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you really want to continue this?


    You do. ;)
    Indeed, keep speaking.

    I don't care what you think you know about my experiences, memories, knowledge and wisdom. ;)
    But, keep speaking.
    Reveal the maize, brouddy.


    As long as you are learning something.


    Ah, so you wish to be a teacher, having retired from something else in 1991?
    It must be difficult, filling these past 22 years, eh?
    3106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last post for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time then. (Message 1431402)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another hissy fit over foul language being removed from the boards.
    Same old same old.


    *** **** **, why can't I post whatever the **** I want, eh? :)
    3107) Message boards : Politics : Goober*Care and The CONtroversy Brewing About The American Goober*s Scammed Into 'it'. *Goober aka Stupid Person aka American Public(or So Your Leaders Say[In Private, of course]) (Message 1431401)
    Posted 21 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I missed the start of this thread since the originator is in my twit filter list.


    I was finally able to access the site and log in (the roll out was a disaster).

    What I've found out -- without subsidies, a comparable plan from the same provider with the same network will cost me $360 LESS a month than what I'm currently paying. Yes, $4K a year less. To max out of pocked in this plan is $6350 versus my current $5500. I make up tat difference in two months.

    So, in case you were wondering about the plans in AZ -- the savings are significant -- on the order of what I expected though.

    For those having an AGI of say $40K for a 1 person family in AZ, the cost would be about $1000 a year less than that since Arizona (surprisingly) was one of the states that opted for the medicaid extension.


    Nooo, Barry, you weren't supposed to reply.
    Besides, now, Dull might think he should sign up and save, because, you know, savings are sweeeety sweat, bro'uddy, "Maize 'that'!"
    3108) Message boards : Politics : Goober*Care and The CONtroversy Brewing About The American Goober*s Scammed Into 'it'. *Goober aka Stupid Person aka American Public(or So Your Leaders Say[In Private, of course]) (Message 1431228)
    Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You needed a whole thread for this question, that dead-ended pretty quickly? Or, will you post 20 things in a row in your made-up whimsical, nonsensical way? Ha ha ha. ;)

    Aw he just has conversations with himself.

    Maybe we should do that, too?
    Nah, when absurdity is pointed out by being absurd, people tend to get mad at the pointer, red laser or no.
    3109) Message boards : Politics : Goober*Care and The CONtroversy Brewing About The American Goober*s Scammed Into 'it'. *Goober aka Stupid Person aka American Public(or So Your Leaders Say[In Private, of course]) (Message 1431103)
    Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You needed a whole thread for this question, that dead-ended pretty quickly? Or, will you post 20 things in a row in your made-up whimsical, nonsensical way? Ha ha ha. ;)
    3110) Message boards : Politics : Goober*Care and The CONtroversy Brewing About The American Goober*s Scammed Into 'it'. *Goober aka Stupid Person aka American Public(or So Your Leaders Say[In Private, of course]) (Message 1430955)
    Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, he's commented. You have not read it? LOL. I wonder why THAT is. Ha ha ha ha ha.
    3111) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Do you think the pace of technology innovations has slowed down? (Message 1430900)
    Posted 20 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And some educated people produce fewer babies.

    I'll go further and say most educated people produce less babies ... .


    I hesitated to put that qualifier, most, and put some, because I had not looked at numbers recently.

    I suspect the US is in a similar position, as I have seen reports that one reason the Republicans are struggling to recruit voters is because the US is getting to the tipping point where the non-white population will outnumber the whites.


    I have heard similar suggestions. However, this is not to say that all Hispanics, for example, go Democrat.
    3112) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1430677)
    Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When the world was warmer ...


    If I used your style ...

    "I take it you're saying the world is colder now? Surely you don't mean to suggest that it was always warmer until just recently, do you? Well, maybe it was colder up in your hills, living in caves with hillbillies."
    3113) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Do you think the pace of technology innovations has slowed down? (Message 1430653)
    Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is only one group of people who are making a deliberate effort to produce fewer babies and I'll let you all guess who that is and isn't. Think about how that will affect the decision makers of the future.


    Why be mysterious?

    GLBTs produce fewer babies. (I'll let you guess why that is, lol!)
    And some educated people produce fewer babies.
    3114) Message boards : Politics : Type II diabetes and nicotine (Message 1430570)
    Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Never met a pack-a-day pot smoker.


    Most pot smokers I've known are heavy smokers or heavy smokers/drinkers.
    3115) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1430567)
    Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thermohaline circulation.


    When the world was warmer Britain was subtropical. And I own the palm tree franchise for London.


    Riiight.
    I have a bridge in Brooklyn for ya.
    3116) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1430566)
    Posted 19 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    now if only I knew what it is.


    "It is it?"

    Circular argument


    If you trust
    in Faith
    No More,
    circular it is not.
    Rather,
    it is
    Epic.
    3117) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1430493)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    now if only I knew what it is.


    "It is it?"
    3118) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1430423)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone gets it. :)
    3119) Message boards : Politics : We Are Family (Message 1430409)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We are family.
    On the walls,
    screens oh three.
    Save enough,
    before stock falls,
    to have screens oh four.

    No wonder
    we post so much.
    A blunder,
    he questions luck.

    Corn pops at 451 degrees.
    3120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1430384)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not at 2300 mph we don't !!!


    How about 4600 mph?
    3121) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1430209)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you really want to continue this?


    You do. ;)
    Indeed, keep speaking.

    I don't care what you think you know about my experiences, memories, knowledge and wisdom. ;)
    But, keep speaking.
    Reveal the maize, brouddy.
    3122) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1430205)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thermohaline circulation.
    3123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1430031)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With over 500 posts and no certain sightings of Godot, is it time for WFG III?
    3124) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Do you think the pace of technology innovations has slowed down? (Message 1429982)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I think all this decentralization leads to greater security concerns.
    3125) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1429975)
    Posted 18 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor's day starts here in an hour. We should all give thanks that Thor's great design includes grog, mead, lager, ale, vino, distilled spirits, etc. so we can enjoy. All have a happy Thor's day.


    Oh, almighty Thor, you have blessed Gary with great wisdom. How great thou art!
    3126) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1429945)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL LOL LOL. You can't read skol, the empty set?
    3127) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1429563)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    8 and counting. Wow! even Mark would be hard pushed to keep up with that!


    Do you know how to get to ten?




    Number
    Hebrew
    Phonetic and Translation
    1

    talmida ah'at* : a student (female)
    1

    talmid eh'ad* : a student (male)
    2

    shtey* yeladote : two girls
    2

    shney* yeladim : two boys
    3

    shalosh kitot : three classes
    3

    shlosha banim : three sons
    4

    arba tmounote : four pictures
    4

    arba'a h'averim : four friends
    5

    h'amesh ah'ayote : five sisters
    5

    h'amisha ah'im : five brothers
    6

    shesh shahote : six hours
    6

    shisha yamim : six days
    7

    shèva bah'ourote : seven young women
    7

    shiv'a bah'ourim : seven young men
    8

    shmone médinote : eight countries
    8

    shmona ganavim : eight thieves
    9

    tesha morote : nine teachers (women)
    9

    tish'a morim : nine teachers (men)
    10

    esser agorote : ten agorot (dimes)


    Odd. I would have thought the Israelis would have invented the abstract concept of ten by now.


    ∅
    {∅}
    {∅,{∅}}
    {∅,{∅,{∅} }}
    {∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } }}
    {∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } }}
    {∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } } }}
    {∅{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } } } }}
    {∅,{∅{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } } } } }}
    {∅,{∅,{∅{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } } } } } }}
    {∅,{∅,{∅,{∅{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅,{∅} } } } } } } } }}

    Abstract enough for you, yet?
    3128) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1429510)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not at all, but it'll do here until someone comes up with something better. :-D

    Cheers.


    How do you presume to know the mind and drinking preferences of almighty Thor? :)
    3129) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1429509)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hmmm. Didn't know producers had time for protests. :)
    3130) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1429496)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge in response to your post,
    However, Robert, you mentioned Gates: at least he is involved in charity work.
    Bill Gates gave us Windoz, like it or hate it, it is a big deal and worth a lot of money.

    I didn't deny that. I was, briefly, responding to one part of Robert's post.
    I'd dare say Gates produces/produced more than Rand.
    3131) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1429494)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor's day is half over here, but the beers are flowing well. ;-)

    Cheers.


    Are we certain that is Thor's drink of choice?
    3132) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1429476)
    Posted 17 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mr Robert Waite your displeasure may be misdirected.

    I suspect that Sarge is referring to a greater enumeration of people other than those that have Sh$t/money.
    Those with skills in science, those with artisan skills, and good workers are the ones who create wealth.
    Never seen money create wealth, only more money.


    You interpret me pretty much correctly.
    I guess there are producers and takers, but I do not believe it follows the lines of demarcation Rand or other would claim. Rand claims virtually all people are takers; a very small percentage produce. Many others would claim the people Rand points to are producers along with others, and then there are the "welfare queens" so often decried by a certain political party.
    I say it is not so easy to make these judgments. I believe we must take a hard look at what we believe to be our personal successes. How much came from us, how much assistance did we have?
    However, Robert, you mentioned Gates: at least he is involved in charity work.
    3133) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1429385)
    Posted 16 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As he's a Mormon

    Is that information correct or relevant?


    It is true Beck is Mormon (as is Romney).
    Honestly, though, I attended high school with a Mormon guy. He was smart, a talented bass player and usually nice.
    I grew up about a mile from a Mormon family. They, too, were nice.
    So, what is it making Beck talk the way he does? I can't believe it's just religious affiliation.
    3134) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1429140)
    Posted 16 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    His words not mine.

    Glenn Beck worked himself into a tirade on his talk show Wednesday, telling his large and worshipful audience to push their children into walls.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/glenn-beck-advice_n_4097877.html

    _______________________________

    The universe wastes nothing, it's simply transferred.
    Lynn


    Thanks that this m*********ing j*****s m*********er was NOT my father. Thanks for all the fathers out there who know how to "push" in the right ways without needing a j*****s m*********er like Glenn Beck to give parenting advice.
    (This is the same moronic j*****s m*********er who thinks English of the 1770-1780s was so different that we need someone to translate the Declaration of Indepedence and Constitution for us! Hey, j*****s m*********er Glenn Beck: big hint! That larger scripty B thingy? That's a double S, from the Germanic influence. That's about the only thing that would confuse people. Now, go try reading Shakespeare or Chaucer. THAT, we could use translations of, from Olde and Middle English. Ya j*****s m*********er.)

    And if YOU (the general reader) don't like my post? Too bad. Ya just got PUSHED.
    3135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1429135)
    Posted 16 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aaah! China?!?


    No one can hide from the Chinese inquisition!


    Crap.
    (Never trusted the country.)
    3136) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1429133)
    Posted 16 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    8 and counting. Wow! even Mark would be hard pushed to keep up with that!


    Do you know how to get to ten?




    Number
    Hebrew
    Phonetic and Translation
    1

    talmida ah'at* : a student (female)
    1

    talmid eh'ad* : a student (male)
    2

    shtey* yeladote : two girls
    2

    shney* yeladim : two boys
    3

    shalosh kitot : three classes
    3

    shlosha banim : three sons
    4

    arba tmounote : four pictures
    4

    arba'a h'averim : four friends
    5

    h'amesh ah'ayote : five sisters
    5

    h'amisha ah'im : five brothers
    6

    shesh shahote : six hours
    6

    shisha yamim : six days
    7

    shèva bah'ourote : seven young women
    7

    shiv'a bah'ourim : seven young men
    8

    shmone médinote : eight countries
    8

    shmona ganavim : eight thieves
    9

    tesha morote : nine teachers (women)
    9

    tish'a morim : nine teachers (men)
    10

    esser agorote : ten agorot (dimes)
    3137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1429002)
    Posted 15 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have a hard wired phone, probably made in China.


    Aaah! China?!?
    3138) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1428667)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Atlas Shrugged III

    Ayn Rand fOevvA.

    fO shO

    Corn 'it'


    Ayn Rand would take your manner of expression, eat it for breakfast and vomit it out back upon you.
    3139) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1428567)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ayn Rand was, IIRC, a teenager at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, not a child.
    3140) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand (Message 1428507)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    she died. Call me anything you want, but loved the movies Atlas Shrugged.


    If & when the TRUE producers strike, you will be surprised who is doing the striking. Yes, indeed, many surprises will be in store.
    3141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1428428)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To summarize: in attempting to draw on many mythologies, Lucas was guilty of over reach. (Don't even get me started on Jar Jar and Ewoks, a totally different matter.)

    Were the six movies a visual masterpiece? Yes.
    Did he get kids thinking about space travel? Yes.
    3142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1428367)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now......please don't misunderstand or misquote the kittyman.
    I misquote myself often enough that I don't require others to do it for me....LOL.


    Not intended, hence the question I asked, rather than expressing something else some other way.

    'Star Wars', for example, is chock full of cinematic blunders.


    I am not so concerned with gaffes in Star Wars as I am with George Lucas mixing so many things together, from earlier mythology, to create his own mythology, that it gets annoying.

    For example, are a Jedi and his/her apprentice merely Batman and Robin types, or Samurai Warriors, or Buddhist Monks, or Supermen and Superwomen?

    I believe Lucas tried to liken the first 3 (the prequels) to the lead-up to WWII. But rather than dealing with appeasement issues, instead we have an arrogant young apprentice, then Jedi, bungling at nearly every step until it's too late but to accept the Dark Side as his "destiny".

    So were every single 'Terminator' release.
    There are fan sights dedicated to every blemish they could witness.


    Despite any gaffes in this, I find "The Terminator" series more interesting.
    Perhaps it is interesting to some of us to think we can get our collective butts kicked.
    Then we have to deal with the questions of "Can we avoid this?", "Can we change what is to come or change the present?" or "Will nothing we do change anything, now or later?"
    3143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1428352)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all of that (the handcuffs and all)
    I fear he may be gone for a long time.

    Oh no. Was the bench actually a chesterfield sofa drifting through a meadow and popping through eddies in time?


    "W ... h ... a .... t i ... s s ... i ... x t ... i ... m ... e ... s n ... i ... n ... e?"
    3144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1428345)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Lynn" wrote:
    Unlikely recipe for box-office success: a long-established star gets stranded in a hostile environment. Sandra Bullock, lost in space, led Gravity to a win in its second week with a stratospheric $44.3 million at the North American box office, according to preliminary studio estimates.

    Who cares about Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just a movie.


    Somehow, I doubt that's what you generally think of Dr. Tyson.
    I sense an emotional response to a little good-natured ribbing and further suspect you did not read everything Dr. Tyson had to say about the movie (including, IIRC, that overall, he liked it).

    "msattler" wrote:
    Anybody want to point out the scientific gaffs in the best movies of all time?


    Are you calling "Gravity" one of the nest [edit]best[/edit] movies of all time?

    The best sci-fi does one or both of two things:

    1) Inspires us to develop that which is currently thought of as impossible or at the least very far off.
    2) Gives us new perspective on current situations.
    3145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1428344)
    Posted 14 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a younger person I liked to judge a SiFi story by how few impossible things were used to make up the plot.


    +1
    3146) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1428218)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Really? Just how much talking has been done over your budget?

    You can't even get around a table to discuss the running of your country without brinkmanship.


    Topic changer. Just like some in the NRA and GOP.
    Here, I thought you were assailing my character and ability to do my job, when you were really concerned about the mugjapes in DC.
    Well, now that that's cleared up, I'll leave you alone a while. :)
    3147) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1428204)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When the logical arguments come up with solutions that work, then I'll listen and learn. Until then all I see is just talk for the sake of talking.


    I think some of you are talking more than me, so ... ?
    [Of course, someone will now point out how many posts I have made in the last 72 hours, relative to someone else, with no qualifications such as length of post, worth of post, so on and so forth. :)]
    3148) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1428176)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, what a difference a year makes......

    ...changing your tune are we? Or is it that no one must post serious topics unless you're in control of it?

    China - Is she getting frisky


    Gooba gabba! :)


    ..and you a teacher... Tch, Tch, Tch.


    You don't listen to the logical arguments, so now you get the dullnando style post. :P


    Nice teaching. Aren't teachers supposed to rise above that sort of behaviour?


    You seem to think so, and seem to think every place is a classroom, every moment is a teachable moment. Someone just doesn't want to learn. ;)
    3149) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1428170)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We Are Too Busy Getting Fat to Care.


    Translation: "We = ...".
    Nah, I will let you figure it out.
    Yabba dabba goobedy goo, "Maize 'that'!"
    3150) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1428168)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, what a difference a year makes......

    ...changing your tune are we? Or is it that no one must post serious topics unless you're in control of it?

    China - Is she getting frisky


    Gooba gabba! :)


    ..and you a teacher... Tch, Tch, Tch.


    You don't listen to the logical arguments, so now you get the dullnando style post. :P
    3151) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1428108)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I simply give up with Matt, I'll leave it to the Mods.


    Back in grade school there was always this one kid trying to do the teacher's job.


    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"


    Get your movie quotes right.

    It is "Gooble Gobble."


    Ain't no movies involved up in herre brouddy.
    3152) Message boards : Politics : Do you trust China? (Message 1428105)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, what a difference a year makes......

    ...changing your tune are we? Or is it that no one must post serious topics unless you're in control of it?

    China - Is she getting frisky


    Gooba gabba! :)
    3153) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1428103)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [img]http://libe\emiumsHighDeductiblePenaltyLacedHusseinNotCare Workin' for yOu?

    Corn 'it'


    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"

    Ah you broke the sting of 11 straight posts starting Sept 9 of a man having a conversation with himself, it was amazing to watch.


    Ah, man, gooba gabba!
    3154) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1428100)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    And 95% of our press would support you.

    Who owns 95% of the press?


    Rupert Murdoch and corporations (e.g., General Electric). Corporations allowed to grow so large due to deregulation. So large that now they're small, as in "Corporations are people, my friend" (a la Mitt).
    3155) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1428096)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't disagree with you. We are long overdue for a change in Washington DC. Get rid of all of them and start over with a clean slate.

    Libertarians will get their way soon.


    Hope most of them won't call me a THUG when I'm out one cold night with a hoody on. I know some of them are scared of long-haired dudes. Which is funny, because they're the hippies smoking legal weed.
    3156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grabbity (Message 1427920)
    Posted 13 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You go, Neil deGrasse Tyson! Sic 'em!

    'Gravity's' science is questioned by astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson.
    3157) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1427856)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [img]http://libe\emiumsHighDeductiblePenaltyLacedHusseinNotCare Workin' for yOu?

    Corn 'it'


    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"
    3158) Message boards : Politics : Define Jesus (Message 1427811)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jesus is another perennial one. Like the other subject, define the Jesus you are talking about.


    How absolutely ridiculous.
    Terms are defined.
    People, dead or alive, real or not, are not terms.
    At best, a person could be described, not defined.

    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"
    3159) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1427795)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I simply give up with Matt, I'll leave it to the Mods.


    Back in grade school there was always this one kid trying to do the teacher's job.


    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"
    3160) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1427627)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You (Chris) have used the term "extinct" when it was already used and disallowed from further use. Point proven? Or did Chris not understand the rules?

    Ooooopps, sorry my mistake :-) It is only a game though.


    OK.
    3161) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1427527)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mistakenly believe this is all about you and your thread. You are apparently unaware of a long line of discussions on this forum. Hence, you try to attack, but cover it up with big words in a semi-lengthy post. Face it. Euclid was right. A small set of undefined terms are necessary, for if this "game" were carried out properly, we would eventually find ourselves going in a circle. Similarly, a small set of "postulates" (a.k.a "axioms" or "unproven statements") are also needed. You mistakenly brought up "Euclid's Fifth Postulate" (a.k.a. "The Parallel Postulate"), either thinking that postulates were undefined terms, or at least hoping to point out a flaw in Euclid's approach.

    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ParallelPostulate.html
    Given any straight line and a point not on it, there "exists one and only one straight line which passes" through that point and never intersects the first line, no matter how far they are extended. This statement is equivalent to the fifth of Euclid's postulates, which Euclid himself avoided using until proposition 29 in the Elements. For centuries, many mathematicians believed that this statement was not a true postulate, but rather a theorem which could be derived from the first four of Euclid's postulates. (That part of geometry which could be derived using only postulates 1-4 came to be known as absolute geometry.)

    Over the years, many purported proofs of the parallel postulate were published. However, none were correct, including the 28 "proofs" G. S. Klügel analyzed in his dissertation of 1763 (Hofstadter 1989). The main motivation for all of this effort was that Euclid's parallel postulate did not seem as "intuitive" as the other axioms, but it was needed to prove important results. John Wallis proposed a new axiom that implied the parallel postulate and was also intuitively appealing. His "axiom" states that any triangle can be made bigger or smaller without distorting its proportions or angles (Greenberg 1994, pp. 152-153). However, Wallis's axiom never caught on.

    In 1823, Janos Bolyai and Lobachevsky independently realized that entirely self-consistent "non-Euclidean geometries" could be created in which the parallel postulate did not hold. (Gauss had also discovered but suppressed the existence of non-Euclidean geometries.)

    As stated above, the parallel postulate describes the type of geometry now known as Euclidean geometry. If, however, the phrase "exists one and only one straight line which passes" is replaced by "exists no line which passes," or "exist at least two lines which pass," the postulate describes equally valid (though less intuitive) types of geometries known as elliptic and hyperbolic geometries, respectively.

    The parallel postulate is equivalent to the equidistance postulate, Playfair's axiom, Proclus' axiom, the triangle postulate, and the Pythagorean theorem. There is also a single parallel axiom in Hilbert's axioms which is equivalent to Euclid's parallel postulate.

    S. Brodie has shown that the parallel postulate is equivalent to the Pythagorean theorem.


    Face it. It's not all about you. It's not all about your topic(s). Not this thread. Not it's topic. Face it. You have made a mistake.
    3162) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1427427)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man 'O Live. Youse UKers shO be Keepin' Bizzy. All Ad Nauseam Likee.

    Glad I could Hep Ya Enjoy yOselves.

    Corn 'it'


    Gooba gabba!
    "Maize 'that'!"



    3163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1427424)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all of that (the handcuffs and all)
    I fear he may be gone for a long time.

    I fear Godot has been banned?
    3164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1427388)
    Posted 12 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is most definitely a bench.

    Lost in a maze of maize, 'it'.
    3165) Message boards : Politics : Biased Much (Message 1427342)
    Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the average American family, the cost of cash is about $1,739 a year.

    That isn't chump change. Can't believe people are so dumb as to pay non-network ATM fees, check cashing service fees and the like to such an amount. If this is a real number we have just located the biggest failure of the public school system! No financial education.


    Hate to say it, but in the 80s in NYS, if you were smart enough to be in Algebra I, you were also supposedly smart enough to not need the Financial Math.

    It isn't just the math. It is the sense to realize what the math means to your life. Sigh, then again with social welfare to take care of you for life, I wonder if I have it all wrong and I don't need to work my ass off.


    Indeed, it's not just the math.
    But somehow, the two got ... conflated, I think, would be a good word?
    I think if my father had known that (he also went through the NYS Regents system, but high school was in the 50s for him), he'd have had my brother and I in the financial courses as well.
    3166) Message boards : Politics : Biased Much (Message 1427316)
    Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the average American family, the cost of cash is about $1,739 a year.

    That isn't chump change. Can't believe people are so dumb as to pay non-network ATM fees, check cashing service fees and the like to such an amount. If this is a real number we have just located the biggest failure of the public school system! No financial education.


    Hate to say it, but in the 80s in NYS, if you were smart enough to be in Algebra I, you were also supposedly smart enough to not need the Financial Math.
    3167) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1427179)
    Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I take it you are referring to the Western Seaboard? Do get your terminology correct, that's a good chap.


    The term "Left Coast" has been in use since at least 1992. Rush Limbaugh used it disparagingly to cast all west coasters as radical lefty liberal dirty socialists.

    HAIL THOR!!!
    3168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1426959)
    Posted 11 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    3169) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1426794)
    Posted 10 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Dodo (Raphus cucullatus) is an extinct flightless bird that was endemic to the island of Mauritius, east of Madagascar in the Indian Ocean.

    So there!


    You (Chris) have used the term "extinct" when it was already used and disallowed from further use. Point proven? Or did Chris not understand the rules?
    3170) Message boards : Politics : Fibonacci Sequence Myths (Message 1426793)
    Posted 10 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've watched about 15-20 minutes so far. Were some Pi myths exposed as well?

    LOL, you didn't even watch it. So much for.......


    Which part of "let us watch together" baffled you, Brainiac Five?
    3171) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1426489)
    Posted 10 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hail Thor!
    Praise thee, Thor, for thine mighty hammer and infinitely wise Design.
    In humble supplication to thee, Thor, I pray you allow this Gary thread to continue for many more turns, singing of thine awesomeness every 7 days or more.
    3172) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1426364)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, an ante-now species of flightless non-placental feathered warm blooded creatures no longer existent?


    Thanks for playing! Based on our latest entry, we are at:

    A done species of flightless non-placental feathered warm blooded creatures.
    3173) Message boards : Politics : Some melting glaciers are not due to global warming (Message 1426360)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I built a glacier once.
    One big fridge. Yee haw!
    Then, I created the innerwebs and made sure everything on it were true. Mo true, in fact.
    Gabba gooba.
    (As on topic as ... .)
    3174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : John Clark's family (Message 1426357)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My condolences, John.
    3175) Message boards : Politics : Some melting glaciers are not due to global warming (Message 1426153)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The heavens revolve around the Earth,


    Errr doesn't the Earth revolve around itself within/underneath the heavens


    Of course not. Just use your sight and other senses.
    No need for brainacky 'Links' 'References' 'Sources' 'Proof'.
    (Of course, we have all sorts of people, so it is nice for our favorite meta-critic to deem all are brainiacs.)
    3176) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1426149)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about defining the dodo bird by its DNA sequence?

    ATCGTTCGATTCGCGATTCATC....


    That would be quite interesting.
    But, then, how does one define things that were never alive?
    Thus, it just pushes off the point of the discussion.
    3177) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1426142)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let the lesson begin.

    "A dodo is an extinct bird."

    It is now on the next player to define "extinct" or "bird" or both.

    I like bird as a non-placental warm blooded creature with feathers and extinct being a specie which no longer lives.


    So, we have three choice to continue on. (Is specie the singular?) (Also, IU forgot to mention the dodo was flightless. This may need to be included.)

    "A species of bird which no longer lives."
    "A non-placental warm blooded creature with feathers that is extinct."

    Or, ""A species of non-placental warm blooded creatures with feathers that no longer lives."

    I think we can ignore defining "a", "with", "that".


    So, an ante-now species of flightless non-placental feathered warm blooded creatures no longer existent?
    3178) Message boards : Politics : Some melting glaciers are not due to global warming (Message 1426140)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As any child knows, the sun rises and sets. The heavens revolve around the Earth,
    As any child knows, when a bigger/heavier bowling ball dropped from the same height as a lighter one, the heavier ball will hit the ground first.
    As any child knows, if you have 24 ounces of sippy juice in a container that is 4 inches tall, when you try to pour that 24 ounces into a container is 3 inches tall, some of it will just magically disappear, because the 3 inch tall container cannot possibly hold as much as a 4 inch tall container.
    You do man.
    Brainiac.
    Ha!
    3179) Message boards : Politics : Fibonacci Sequence Myths (Message 1425969)
    Posted 9 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've watched about 15-20 minutes so far. Were some Pi myths exposed as well?

    No. Pi is irrational and so is my comment.


    Hail Thor! :)
    3180) Message boards : Politics : Fibonacci Sequence Myths (Message 1425900)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've watched about 15-20 minutes so far. Were some Pi myths exposed as well?
    3181) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1425899)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we can ignore defining "a", "with", "that".


    If you do that, it'll ruin the game.


    I think the point can still be made.
    So, how to say "species no longer existing" without going back to "extinct", for example?
    3182) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1425878)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let the lesson begin.

    "A dodo is an extinct bird."

    It is now on the next player to define "extinct" or "bird" or both.

    I like bird as a non-placental warm blooded creature with feathers and extinct being a specie which no longer lives.


    So, we have three choice to continue on. (Is specie the singular?) (Also, IU forgot to mention the dodo was flightless. This may need to be included.)

    "A species of bird which no longer lives."
    "A non-placental warm blooded creature with feathers that is extinct."

    Or, ""A species of non-placental warm blooded creatures with feathers that no longer lives."

    I think we can ignore defining "a", "with", "that".
    3183) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1425860)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let the lesson begin.

    "A dodo is an extinct bird."

    It is now on the next player to define "extinct" or "bird" or both.
    3184) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1425859)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, let's see if a point can be made here.

    Define "dodo". (Hint: an animal.) Be brief but specific.

    Impetus: besides recent (and old) discussions here, I was telling a friend the other day how in elementary school one of my teachers would admonish us for not explaining when she asked us too, saying, essentially, "All you did was tell me 'a dodo is a dodo'."


    A definition was presented and I am owning it. Lets get back to the discussion shall we?


    No.
    You missed a point.
    3185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gravity The Movie (Message 1425586)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go get 'em, Neil deGrasse Tyson, or whateverurnameiz. :)
    3186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gravity The Movie (Message 1425585)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least there are no sharks up there like in the movie "Open Water".

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374102/


    +1!
    3187) Message boards : Politics : The "Undefined Term" Game (Message 1425584)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, let's see if a point can be made here.

    Define "dodo". (Hint: an animal.) Be brief but specific.

    Impetus: besides recent (and old) discussions here, I was telling a friend the other day how in elementary school one of my teachers would admonish us for not explaining when she asked us too, saying, essentially, "All you did was tell me 'a dodo is a dodo'."
    3188) Message boards : Politics : Theft of computer services and other matters (Message 1425572)
    Posted 8 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I dare say none of the BOINC projects or the original SETI would have ever gone passed the wishful thinking stage were it not for the credits.


    Seems highly unlikely.
    I knew, and cared, nothing of the credits when first joining S@H, about 6 years before BOINC.
    I only really started to care, via use of optimized apps for example, when joining a team amd using the message boards here and there.
    3189) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425450)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now if someone had said "Made in Amarna" the site of King Akhetaten's Temple to Aten, When he tried to make Egypt follow a one god religion. And that people who continued to follow this religion had fled north-east to escape persecution after the Egyptians reverted to multi-god worship.

    Then it might be believable(ish).


    But no member of the Ha-Bi-Ru (Apiru) ever spent time in Egypt, in any fashion, so how could they know what was going on in Amarna?!? :)
    3190) Message boards : Politics : Theft of computer services and other matters (Message 1425437)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is purely a "falling out" based on irrelevant criteria such as skin color or religion or national origin.


    Hmmm.
    Interesting.

    As for "leaving the credit [as?] is", just no more WUs? While this seems fair, I have to wonder what had to be done in the coding to enforce no more WUs being sent. Could the loss of credits been an unfortunate side-effect of not being able to send any more WUs? Perhaps assuming the removal of credit was childish, petty and vindictive indicates a paranoid delusion?
    3191) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425432)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now if someone had said "Made in Amarna" the site of King Akhetaten's Temple to Aten, When he tried to make Egypt follow a one god religion. And that people who continued to follow this religion had fled north-east to escape persecution after the Egyptians reverted to multi-god worship.

    Then it might be believable(ish).


    +1.
    3192) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425416)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Matt Giwer" wrote:
    However a paranoid divination of ulterior motives as in

    "Sarge" wrote:
    As there's been a rise in atheism or agnosticism around the world, or in the western world, and it is unlikely it is due to your efforts or those who might be like you, one wonders what you are trying to achieve.


    is clearly not on topic. It is in fact delusional.


    I have clearly stated where I am on the continuum many times, as well as why I post on these topics.
    I am agnostic. Unlike the enthusiasts here, I and a few others are trained mathematically or in the "hard" sciences.
    I post on these topics because I happen to know a fair amount about how we come to know things and this overlaps with beliefs and psychology. Thus, I take unsubstantiated claims about a group of believers as seriously as I take the hard to believe claims in The Bible or any other spiritual/religious source.
    3193) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425401)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you want to discuss something else please start your own thread.

    It is common courtesy not to try divert the discussion topic.


    As your first response to me in this thread was along these lines, one must assume you considered it part of your topic. Avoiding a reasonable question about your topic, or your overall goals, then claiming "off topic" is a disingenuous deflection.


    I get distracted too. I make the same mistakes. That is why we should make the effort to stay on topic. It should only take the first person to realize the subject has strayed to remind the other.


    Made in Alexandria, as in, not in Judea or Canaan or whatever you want to call it, I couldn't care less. As you stated, this is part of your overall goal to chop off, at the knees, Judaism and therefore Christianity and Islam, in an economical fashion. It is not off topic to talk about your overarching goal when in fact this thread is one portion of that goal. If you disagree, take it to the mods. They've modded me before. But I'll bet they stand with me on this one.
    3194) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Space Race (Message 1425315)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    have not come through with the money for the tickets.


    I don't think there are that many millionaires in this world...


    How many seats are there. 4 or 5? Yes, there are that many millionaires to fill 4 or 5 seats. :)
    3195) Message boards : Politics : Climate disaster is coming again (Message 1425270)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have followed this climate change thing since it was the coming Ice Age. Funny thing. The cause of the coming Ice Age and the coming global melting is the same industrialization the hippies were against on general principles and LSD. But let us ignore this unexplainable coincidence and admit the Luddites were right back in the early 19th c.

    Back in 1989 and 1990 we were solemnly assured that if we did not do something about the hippie concerns in ten years it would be too late. Those guys were all in a panic over the ten years or else.

    Naive me thought if nothing was done by 2000 they would all pack it in, buy SUVs and party. Little did I realize they were in a perpetual state of panic and would always give the world ten years to do something. Of course there are some wiser heads who simply say, Real Soon!, instead of a giving another year extension every year.

    Oddly the same people who were issuing the 1990 warnings, if not retired, are still in the camp of the melters. And you know they have not done? They have not said why they were wrong in 1990. Perhaps I was expecting to much. Don't they know why they were wrong? Why is it never to late? The only prediction I know that has been wrong every year for more years is when Iran will have the bomb, 28 vice 23.


    Funny thing ... the warming will be a relatively short trend. It will not continue up, but in fact set in motion the next ice age, much longer relatively speaking. Yee haw. Yippee! Funny thing, eh?

    Hey, maybe some certain one group is behind it. You know, dem ELHM followers? No? Then go back to that thread.

    Yee haw! Yippee! Funny thing, eh, Matthias?!
    3196) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425216)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you want to discuss something else please start your own thread.

    It is common courtesy not to try divert the discussion topic.


    As your first response to me in this thread was along these lines, one must assume you considered it part of your topic. Avoiding a reasonable question about your topic, or your overall goals, then claiming "off topic" is a disingenuous deflection.
    3197) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425095)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Matt Giwer" wrote:
    "Bobby" wrote:
    What's nonsense is your denial of your own anti-semitism. While you may argue that a person may not have to be an anti-semite to be anti-Isreali, the distinction is lost in your writings on your website, which contains so many falsehoods it would take years to uncover them all.


    First let me point out there is no law against it.


    Last I knew, there's no law against shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater, either. However, we are told since childhood it's not a particularly good idea, as an example that free speech has limitations. Words have meanings and uttering/typing them have consequences. Perhaps the only reason there's no law against shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater is because there may be a time when indeed there's a fire. In the meantime, just randomly shouting it could lead to a stampede and deaths.

    As there's been a rise in atheism or agnosticism around the world, or in the western world, and it is unlikely it is due to your efforts or those who might be like you, one wonders what you are trying to achieve.
    3198) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425092)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had a quarter million credits when some hysterical izziehugger found my website and the project erased the credits committing criminal theft of computer services not to mention unethical and unprofessional behavior. Is that what you are attempting?


    Credit from BOINC projects have no value, as we all know.

    "I'm sorry, Mr. Cooper, but I don't ... ."
    "Doctor."
    "He's kidding, right?"
    "Not the kind of doctor with access to drugs."
    "I'm sorry, Dr. Cooper, but I don't have jurisdiction in Pandora."
    3199) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1425091)
    Posted 7 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    רוץ ( ביולוגיה )
    3200) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1424994)
    Posted 6 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    Which appears most primitive?
    Least?


    Primitive is not an operative word here. Which of those is the more primitive? A phonetic script needs many, simple shapes that are not readily confused. After you assign O and X and I to letters you have to get creative.

    Anyway is Phoenician. Fake archaeologists who are also known as biblical archaeologists deliberately misidentify Phoenician inscriptions as "hebrew" even though the script is identical. For example the inscription in the old Jerusalem water tunnel which believers stupidly call the Hezekaiah tunnel is clearly in Phoenician. What Israelis today call "hebrew" script is 1st c. AD Aramaic script.


    Nope, that one is altered. Here is the Phoenician.

    3201) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1424787)
    Posted 6 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    Which appears most primitive?
    Least?
    3202) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1424433)
    Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since the religious impulse goes back about 40000 years, at least, no one finds it odd that Matt Giwer chooses to attack one group?
    3203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1424432)
    Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If GODOT hasn't been here how do you know his show size?


    This thread has a life of its own, that I could not have designed. Spontaneous emergence?
    3204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gravity The Movie (Message 1424431)
    Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This movie should bee seen in 3-D. I caught a late night showing on Thursday.

    This movie is absolutely stunning from the get go. I can't remember ever being pulled into a film so completely and thoroughly, and I don't think I've seen a more beautiful film.

    Sandra Bullock and George Clooney seem to float effortlessly in "Gravity," a terror-filled tale of two shuttle astronauts set adrift by a space disaster.

    ________________________________

    The universe wastes nothing, it's simply transferred.
    Lynn

    I'm going out to see this shortly.


    Good for you :-)

    I'd been excited about seeing this movie for a while, and I have to say it lived up to my expectations. Brilliant movie.


    Yeah, but you liked "Snakes on a Plane" and "2012", too. So, I'll look to you for other advice, but not movie advice. :) BTW, congrats.
    3205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Gravity The Movie (Message 1424277)
    Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This movie should bee seen in 3-D. I caught a late night showing on Thursday.

    This movie is absolutely stunning from the get go. I can't remember ever being pulled into a film so completely and thoroughly, and I don't think I've seen a more beautiful film.

    Sandra Bullock and George Clooney seem to float effortlessly in "Gravity," a terror-filled tale of two shuttle astronauts set adrift by a space disaster.

    ________________________________

    The universe wastes nothing, it's simply transferred.
    Lynn


    Aging hipsters that listen to Korn in space? I think we went there with "Space Cowboys". No thanks! :)
    3206) Message boards : Politics : Fibonacci Sequence Myths (Message 1424276)
    Posted 5 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Long video, but let us watch together, shall we?
    3207) Message boards : Politics : What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design? (Message 1424216)
    Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Millions of people around the world believe we have been visited in the past by extraterrestrial beings, but what if it were true? Did ancient aliens really help to shape our history...
    ...and, if so, what if there were clues left behind, sometimes hiding in plain sight? What if we could find the evidence?"

    What is the best evidence/argument for the ancient alien astronaut theory?
    3208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1424207)
    Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Corn 'it'


    He can't even spell it right. It's cornet!




    Roger Waters has a pair of Gohill (not Godot) boots.
    3209) Message boards : Politics : What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design? (Message 1424151)
    Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Confucious he say, "man who sit on ice pick, gets the point"



    Cornfucius confuses us?
    3210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1424069)
    Posted 4 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, I know the band but what does it have to do with my post?


    Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn, Korn!
    3211) Message boards : Politics : English/UK Citizens have Nothing To Do. So, They Post Ad Nauseam about USA (Message 1423481)
    Posted 3 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As The Internet Saying Goes: Get A Life.

    fO shO

    Post 'it'


    Dreadlocks.
    3212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1423480)
    Posted 3 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Ian, you have your green star in your avatar, now how cool is that! :)


    Korn?
    I do not really think much of that band.
    3213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time for freekibblekat II. (Message 1423479)
    Posted 3 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Corn.
    3214) Message boards : Politics : Made in Alexandria, The Origin of the Yahweh Cult (Message 1423478)
    Posted 3 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Five myths about MG:

    1)
    2)
    3)
    4)
    5)

    Blah, blah, blah la-tee-da Corn.
    3215) Message boards : Politics : What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design? (Message 1423462)
    Posted 3 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They got it in last week but sadly I didn't find it until Monday.

    Please stay on topic, thank you.


    Beer was designed. Drink some.
    3216) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1422898)
    Posted 2 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I nominate the design of the human spine.
    What the hell was the invisible sky dude thinking when he stacked a bunch of bones up vertically with the expectation that it would hold up under the stress of workloads applied to it.

    The human spine is proof that intelligent design is a myth.


    If invisible sky dude/dudette/entity exists, he/she/it is answering you with "WTH are you doing putting so much stress on it? Didn't you read the instruction manual I left for you? Frackin' idiot humans!"


    Can you please point to this instruction manual that this deity left for us?


    Marvin found part of it.
    The message said "Sorry for the inconvenience."
    3217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1422897)
    Posted 2 Oct 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has the other Godot arrived yet?
    3218) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1422703)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ROFLMAO I love Robin!


    Mork ... and Mindy ... have left the building, due to flooding.
    3219) Message boards : Politics : Best examples of SD, Stupid Design (Message 1422702)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I nominate the design of the human spine.
    What the hell was the invisible sky dude thinking when he stacked a bunch of bones up vertically with the expectation that it would hold up under the stress of workloads applied to it.

    The human spine is proof that intelligent design is a myth.


    If invisible sky dude/dudette/entity exists, he/she/it is answering you with "WTH are you doing putting so much stress on it? Didn't you read the instruction manual I left for you? Frackin' idiot humans!"
    3220) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1422700)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More direct evidence for Intelligent Design the for UFO's. It's just a fact. Yet you place blind faith in UFO's. WoW!

    If it is unidentified and you think it flies you say it must be evidence for intelligent design. That somehow must make sense to you.


    Which people are placing faith in UFOs?
    If anything, most here believe in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life but few if any believe it is possible they traveled here.
    3221) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1422697)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since this thread has wandered off subject to the topic of Intelligent Design I will make this one last statement from my viewpoint. If all of this is the product of an individual designer then I would call it stupid design. Why you ask? Spend your first sixteen years in and out of children's hospitals where all you see are children with all sorts of birth defects from paralysis to limbs attached backwards or of unequal lengths or young children with one form of cancer or another then maybe you too will question whether there is an intelligent designer behind all of this. An intelligent designer would never allow such defects to happen. I can quote hundreds of similar defects just here on earth all of which point to the conclusion that S#*t happens, totally at random and without reason.

    Telling me or any other disabled person that their condition happened for a reason is the biggest insult of all. I can live with knowledge that my condition is a random act of nature but I get livid when someone tells me God made me this way for a reason.

    And by the way, I do believe UFOs are possible but I really doubt that anyone has seen a craft from elsewhere in the universe.


    The thread is apparently about UFOs and not ID.
    3222) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1422696)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    According to wiki the humanities is an academic discipline referred to as a social science, not an empirical science like biology, chemistry or physics.


    Social sciences employ either quantitative research (and thus, all the math and science learned in a stats course) or qualitative research (which, when using triangulation among other things, works to be also scientific rather than just the observations and opinions of some observer). Some studies may even use both types.
    3223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1422695)
    Posted 30 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge you are not him,
    unless you can fly with
    out an air craft.


    I must be a Godot, for you waited.
    Now, wait for some other Godot?
    3224) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1421894)
    Posted 29 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Autism often gets mixed up with Aspergers, and as I said earlier needs expert diagnosis. Autism

    During my 8 years as an FE teacher in IT, I had a number of students that had varying degrees of difficulty in socialising with other people, which is the common link here. Yes, some can be over bright, and others educationally challenging. I don't think that anyone can be categorised as 100% this, or 100% that, it is usually a combination of a number of factors that are individual to them. In WK's case, someone aged 30+ with the capabilities of an 11 year old, would probably be classed as a medium + disability.

    there is a comparison between those with Autism and scientists. In some aspects they are not that far apart.

    I have always said that you have to be partly off the radar and on the extreme edge, to be able to think outside the box, and to come up with some scientific discoveries. It's the same with psychiatrists/psychologists, it takes one to know one.


    Autism spectrum includes Aspberger's.

    Does Bill Gates have Aspberger's?

    Chris, I would not have discussed it further if he had not brought it up.
    3225) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1421892)
    Posted 29 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heppy Thor's Day everyone. Celebrate Thor today.


    Only 4-5 days to go!
    3226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1421152)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You waited for me.
    3227) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1421148)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not going to give you published examples. I have to live, some of the time, with one my 30+ year old Autistic son.
    And as you might realise I had to deal with him and the education system for a long time. For him the expensive system they put in place, for all the "special needs" children, did not work, and if they had listened to me and the doctors should have realised it was not going to work.

    Special Needs as far as I can make out on my experience, is all kids who the normal teachers cannot deal with.


    You're not telling me much.
    30+ could mean 39, which means not all that much younger than me, and so the changes I described would have had none to little impact on him (if any, maybe 3-6 years).
    You haven't mentioned where on the spectrum he is. Does not Bill Gates have Aspberger's?
    At the university, if I have a legally blind student, I *must* (LEGALLY!!!) find ways to work with such students. And I have.
    3228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1420802)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fascinating.
    3229) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1420800)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thor has Designed Idiot Humans with Too Much Time on Their Puny Hands.
    fO shO thOr
    'it' Prove it.

    Thor's greatest achievement may arguably be the design and creation of the MetaCritic.
    The MetaCritic scoffs at scoffers, criticizes critics, and name-calls name-callers.
    Some MetaCritics think that Metacritism is the driving evolutionary Intelligence in our Thorian Universe,
    while others say

    fO shO nOt.


    Thou shalt not posteth on Thor's Day!
    STAND in SILENCE and reflect on HIS awesome design.
    3230) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1420797)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The problem is a lot of the institutions involved in teaching those who don't pass the required standard, put all those students in the same "special needs bucket".

    I think you have hit a nail on the head there. That is the easy option for those who are not that good a teacher in the first place. Lets label all "difficult" pupils with the same brush, then we don't have to deal with them any more.


    Uhhh ... what?
    On what do you base this? Provide some current examples.
    The trend in the US since somewhere around 1993-1995 has been "inclusion" ... elimination of "tracks" (advanced, college bound but not advanced, etc. ... ). I'm willing to bet it was already occurring elsewhere, like the UK, before here.
    What you describe is more like what I experienced.
    Neither is a perfect approach.
    3231) Message boards : Number crunching : Notice from server, error message (Message 1420794)
    Posted 27 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shouldn't the following have been taken care of by resetting the project?

    Unknown app name in app_info.xml.
    Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usabe version of SETI@Home v7.


    Would detaching and then rejoining the project help?



    http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item104


    Done. Will see what happens with the first 3 WUs.
    3232) Message boards : Number crunching : Notice from server, error message (Message 1420632)
    Posted 26 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shouldn't the following have been taken care of by resetting the project?

    Unknown app name in app_info.xml.
    Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usabe version of SETI@Home v7.


    Would detaching and then rejoining the project help?
    3233) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1418739)
    Posted 21 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can prove a negative using a system of deductive reasoning. A collection of entities and operations is defined (via axioms), and from those definitions, other conclusions are derived.

    It is inevitable that there will be true things in that system that cannot be proven. Also, anything that is proven is true under the rules of the system.

    Science does not use deduction. It uses induction. We do not know what system of logic, if any, can be used to derive all known properties of the universe. (And even if we did, thanks to the Incompleteness Theorem, there would *still* be true things we couldn't prove.)

    We do not know the axioms of the universe. Induction is a way to use observations rather than derivations to conclude things about the system. Assuming that all things cannot be observed, observation cannot prove general statements. Fortunately for science, the complementary operation, disproving general statements, does not need a exhaustively complete set of observations, it only needs one.


    Thank you, cov_route. You've echoed statements I've made here 6 and 7 years ago.

    Unfortunately, these are the types of responses received:

    1) Looks like Chinese to me. (No effort to find out a little about it?)
    2) You don't know what you're talking about.
    3) Extremists at either end cherry picking what they need from statements like these and slamming the contest (and poster of the content) for the rest they don't want.
    (A) Primary in this is, as you said, that science uses inductive reasoning, thus does not "prove" in the way we do proofs in mathematics. Once again, we have people of mathematical/scientific background making claims they should know better than to make or science enthusiasts who act as if certain things in science have been 100% "proved".
    The extremists at the other end, somehow sensing/knowing that in science we do not have the type of proof in mathematics, try to use this against science. What they do not understand, apparently, in some cases it is not just replication of a study in one area that makes a point, but also evidence from multiple areas/lines of reasoning. Take climate change, whether it is real and whether humanity has been a significant contributor since the Industrial Revolution. Scientists haven't just been looking at temperatures, but also things such as changes in migration patterns, etc. ... . When there are multiple lines of evidence/reasoning, it is not just a strong case being made, but a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very strong case being made. A 10% probability of being wrong goes down to 5%, to 1%, to below 1%. There can still be a mistake, but the chance of that has been reduced enormously.
    4) Now a new response. Yes, of course proof in mathematics is different than elsewhere. I've pointed out it several times. But, to completely separate mathematics from "reality" is folly. If you want our practical results, you are bound by the axiomatic reasoning that produced them.

    No wonder extended breaks from this place are necessary.
    3234) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1418459)
    Posted 21 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You cannot prove that something doesn't exist, A single example will, conversely, prove that it does exist.


    "The strongly regular graphs with λ=0 are triangle free. The seven listed above are the only known ones. Strongly regular graphs with λ=0 and μ=1 are Moore graphs with girth 5. Again the three graphs given above, with parameters (5,2,0,1), (10,3,0,1) and (50,7,0,1), are the only known ones. The only other possible set of parameters yielding a Moore graph is (3250,57,0,1); it is unknown if such a graph exists, and if so, whether or not it is unique." (Wiki)

    Wait. Wait! What?!? "The only other possible set of parameters"? How the heck do they know there isn't an srg with parameters (63,17,0,1)? Did they somehow prove something doesn't exist after all?
    3235) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The study of UFO's (Message 1418457)
    Posted 21 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You cannot prove that something doesn't exist, A single example will, conversely, prove that it does exist.


    Proof that the only groups of order 4 are, up to isomorphism, Z_4 and the Klein-4 group; i.e., a proof that no other groups of order 4 exist.

    Assume you have a group, G, of order 4. A consequence of LaGrange's Theorem tells us the order of any element divides the order of the group. So, the orders of the elements in group of order 4 are 1, 2 or 4.

    If the group has an element 4, it is cyclic and hence isomorphic to Z_4. So, assume that there is no element of order 4.

    There must be an identity, say e, and it is unique. Let G = {e, a, b, c}, where e, a, b, and c are distinct. If a^1 = e (i.e., a has order 1), then a = e, making these two elements not distinct. Thus, a does not have order 1. Similarly, neither do b or c. Thus, a, b and c must each have order 2.

    a^2 = e ===> a = (a^2) * (a^(-1)) = e * a^(-1) = a^(-1).
    Similarly, b = b^(-1).

    If a * b = e, then a = a * e = a * (b * b^(-1)) =(a * b) * b^(-1) = e * b^(-1) = b^(-1) = b, a contradiction.
    If a * b = a, then b = e * b = (a^(-1) * a) * b = a^(-1) * (a * b) = a^(-1) * a = e, also a contradiction. Similarly, a * b = b yields a = e, another contradiction.

    Therefore, a * b = c, and c is order 2.

    As the group presentation of the Klein 4 group is <a, b | a^2 = b^2 = (a * b)^2 = e, we see that if G is a group order of 4 with no element of order 4 (is not cyclic/is not isomorphic to Z_4), then G must be the Klein 4 group, proving there are no other groups of order 4 besides these two, up to isomorphism.

    So, yes, people, please, keep telling me you cannot prove a negative.
    3236) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1417278)
    Posted 18 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thos is not the designer and I have proof. You all saw in the Avengers that the Hulk decked Thor with one punch. And forget Loki too. The hulk treated him like a rag doll.
    Its Odins wife Frigg that is the designer. Come on didnt you see how nice Asgard looked?

    Heh I see desention in the ranks. if He so powerful how come Anu allows him to live... Double trick question. Anu loves peace and a god is neither living or dead.

    Skill, you are clearly confused. As proof the Vikings visited North America and the Sumerians did not. With the Vikings early appearance they could have helped with the founding of the republic and our freedoms. I have previously stated that Thor is the designer and my mind is closed to your blasphemy.


    Moderate that, Thor!

    Errr? Ummm???
    3237) Message boards : Politics : Thor is the designer! (Message 1416977)
    Posted 17 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID is Gone for Now and The Brainiacs Are Making Fun.

    Sad Sad Sad.

    fO shO

    'it'


    Haven't said a word, except "WISDOM". Get it? Got it! GOOD!!!
    3238) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1415823)
    Posted 15 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I left this place to be over-run by 2 to 4 folks that have turned it into their personal blogs.

    No One is stopping you from Becoming A Moderator.


    You get one response.
    You are not aware of history.
    I was offered, or came close to being offered, a modship here in October 2007. I had said for 1-1.5 years beforehand that, if ever offered one, I would refuse. On October 7, I e-mailed back "respectfully declining", asking I not be offered the position or, if still at the discussion stage, that the discussion not be continued.
    I stopped myself. That's WISDOM.
    Plus, I'm sure if the discussion had continued, there would have been at least 3-4 strident voices arguing against it, whether with good reason or not.

    Debate is good. It can sharpen the mind. If one adopts a zen-like attitude, the sharper mind can also lead to good choices.

    What occurs here is not debate. What it is, I am not going to rack my brain trying to put a name to it and explain it. It would be one more useless effort, most likely. WISDOM suggests leaving you to your own devices.

    It is my hope that the few that still speak here will eventually realize there are other places and ways we can debate with each other, learn from each other, and yet remain civil.

    It is my hope that, as the field thins even more, those that read will recognize what is being said here, and how it is being said, and put it in its proper place as they seek to understand the world, including the drama that is politics.

    And I imagine at least one will continue to post because, "The sound of your own voice must soothe you", yet, "They say the empty can rattles the most".
    3239) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1415822)
    Posted 15 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In light of recent events ... .
    3240) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1415336)
    Posted 13 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keep both the NRA and Bloombergian money out when the recall is recalled.
    P.S.-one of the guys shooed in is an illegal alien Republican.
    3241) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1415335)
    Posted 13 Sep 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    57 days!
    And I left this place to be over-run by 2 to 4 folks that have turned it into their personal blogs.
    Meantime, CO is now known as East California. Funny, it started raining that evening, and now it looks as if the 1st Covenant has been revoked.
    3242) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1392124)
    Posted 18 Jul 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Miss me yet? Ha ha! 59 days!

    Yesterday, I posted elsewhere on the outrage people are expressing over the photo of terrorist Jahar Tsarnaev on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

    Today, let’s consider the outrage of a few months ago over the handling of his older brother, Tamerlan. Many people, including several I am connected to on Facebook, expressed anger that he was going to be, and indeed was, buried on U.S. soil.

    1) Show me precedence. What traitor or terrorist that has died on U.S. soil has been buried outside the U.S.? The first thing I looked for was Timothy McVeigh, Oklahoma bombing, 1995. He was executed on June 11, 2001 and cremated. Where were his ashes spread? I have not found an answer to that yet, but I’ll bet it was within the borders of the U.S.
    2) How much did it cost, incidental or direct, to have Osama bin Laden buried at sea, May 2, 2011? Certainly, there were costs in transporting his body from Pakistan to the USS Carl Vinson. There were costs in having the ship move to wherever his body was taken to dump into the sea. At the least, we are talking about the cost of time (what else could these people been doing) and fuel. Where did the money for the fuel and the paychecks of the people involved come from? Is there any other way the government and the military get money besides taxing us?
    3) Similarly, then, if Tamerlan Tsarnaev were to have been buried outside the U.S., what would have been the cost? I.E., how would your tax dollars been spent on his burial?
    (A) Would we have paid the price for the transportation of Tamerlan’s body?
    (B) What country or organization would have offered to take his body off our hands?
    (C) If any exist, would they have taken on the costs?
    (D) Would that country or organization be one that the U.S. “recognizes” and with which we have good relations?
    (E) If not, would we have even accepted the offer?
    (F) If we did:
    (i) Would they have actually followed through and taken Tamerlan’s body off our soil?
    (ii) If they did, would there be people demanding proof that he’d actually been buried outside U.S. borders?
    (iii) If such demands were made, would such proof be offered? If yes, would that proof be accepted, or would someone cook up some conspiracy theory claiming Tamerlan had actually been buried on U.S. soil and would such claims go viral on social media?
    (iv) If the deal were struck with a nation or organization we don’t have good relations with, would they, in fact, loved to stick it to us by, in fact, not taking him anywhere else and actually buried him on U.S. soil? Or, at least claim that’s what they had done, even if they hadn’t. Leak the news some amount of time later, and watch with glee as once again U.S. citizens lather with anger and tear into each other, over and over, in person and on social media?

    Now, go back to missing me.
    3243) Message boards : Politics : In light of recent developments (Message 1370039)
    Posted 20 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No more high school games.
    No more multiple accounts for you. (Each receiving multiple bans?)
    No more bad bromance.
    Drop your obsession.
    The discussion isn't worth it.
    My final thought for you, as you turn this into a blahg: "My independent social welfare group, known as "Math Graduates Students Living in Communes Eating Ramen Noodles that Really Really Love the Constitution" was targeted for audit by the IRS when we applied for tax exempt status back in August, 2005. Where were you then, conservatives? Where the HELL were you then?"
    Now see what self-imposed really means. That includes not making another account or two while pretending you are gone.
    3244) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Has the lost city of Atlantis been found?? (Message 1368346)
    Posted 16 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've seen on TV some of the Akrotiri paintings, in Thera/Santorini and they are strikingly beautiful. The Minoan civilization was a peaceful one and was conquered after a tsunami had destroyed its fleet.
    Tullio


    Simka Jacobovich has claimed that the Thera explosion is behind the 10 plagues in Egypt.
    3245) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Has the lost city of Atlantis been found?? (Message 1368013)
    Posted 15 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't forget this thread! We could usefully combine the two??

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70929


    I agree, but there are some here that are acting as if there is no evidence for there being any grain of truth to such legends.
    3246) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1367846)
    Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then again, perhaps the Issa Benghazi star chamber McCarthy emulation could be used in a time warp to investigate the dozen or so consulate and embassy attacks in the Bush administration after 9/11.



    Until then, well, let's just remind folks that the topic is Romney and how we should vote for him in an election that is already over. (Is that the new GOP plan? Time traveling to sway votes?)



    I dunno, Barry, that might be a little too ... gooba gabba gooba?
    3247) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Warp drive continues to be tested (Message 1367716)
    Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This one of my earlier posts so please tell me again that I don't understand what Quantum Entanglement is even if I could not explain it scientifically


    Yes Einstein did say that God does not play dice with the Universe,
    to which someone replied,
    Stop asking God.

    I have no idea what you're babbling about half of the time, if not more.

    So in the vein of babbling i posit this,
    at the moment of the Big Bang,
    all of space, time, energy, and maybe no matter, was condensed within a Planck Unit of Space-Time and here we be.
    Surely all of space-time is entangled on a quantum level given its origin.
    And what ...i have no idea.

    Please enlighten me.


    WTH is your problem?
    Glenn clearly has trouble expressing himself to us, but it seems pretty clear he has tried to learn some things, pass on what he's learned, and then learn some more, including from us.
    Aren't you the guy who's profile said a month ago that you're from Zambia and how you were going to stop posting and crunching, followed by a brief lament about those who have disappeared?
    Well, keep it up. Maybe you can help a few more disappear.
    3248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1367715)
    Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My dear sir, I shall defend the honor of the lady Julie. I tell you, she is never in a pub, unless her band is playing.

    Actually old chap, the Lady in question is quite a connoisseur of fine ales and beers, and occasionally embarks upon a soiree to enhance her knowledge of such refreshments, in suitable hostelries. The band you refer to are her loyal followers of a particular brew called Westvleteren.



    I fear you have been misinformed Sir.


    Nein. Das ist nicht richtig.
    Julie wird Gitarre zu spielen, während ich singe.
    3249) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1367712)
    Posted 14 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Until then, well, let's just remind folks that the topic is Romney and how we should vote for him in an election that is already over. (Is that the new GOP plan? Time traveling to sway votes?)


    Amazing how long gooba gabba gooba is allowed, eh?
    3250) Message boards : Politics : Master and servant (Message 1367452)
    Posted 13 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Master and Servant, indeed!
    3251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1367342)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, that was the pub on the corner ...


    My dear sir, I shall defend the honor of the lady Julie. I tell you, she is never in a pub, unless her band is playing.
    3252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1367341)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is JG aka Godot?
    3253) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO's exist - I've seen at least two (Message 1367278)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4. Like Star Trek - To seek out new life, or if Klingon like, to conquer.


    Or, 4. Find more resources.
    3254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1367273)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think he will show up when my brother gets more wine.

    Godot quit drinking 26 years ago.


    And he still attends the AA meetings it seems...


    That's not where he met you.
    3255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Johnny,Johnny, where for art though Johnny Guinness ? (Message 1367271)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... you can't doubt for a moment his own sincere belief in them.


    I can.
    3256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1366996)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think he will show up when my brother gets more wine.

    Godot quit drinking 26 years ago.
    3257) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Interesting Solutions to the Fermi Paradox (Message 1366975)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please explain what is "sub-space communication"



    Have you never watched Star Trek ??? ;)

    John3760

    EDIT :
    OOPS

    I'll read the whole thread before I reply next time !!! :)


    No need. People who can imagine are sometimes the innovators. Those that cannot, never innovate and just post on internet forums. :)
    3258) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO's exist - I've seen at least two (Message 1366972)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To refute all the UFO nuts, why not look at it from their point of view: -

    They Exist so questions: -

    1: Where do they come from?
    2: Physiology of the pilot
    3: Their technology
    4: Their reasons for visiting

    With the majority of the ones "supposedly" seen, they are fairly small craft, so: -

    Speed
    Cosmic Radiation
    Power

    Have never seen plausible answers to any of those questions!


    Wow.
    One doesn't have to believe to come up with a plausible answer to the size of the craft.

    1) They aren't the main craft traveled in from ... well, wherever else. They are scout craft launched from the larger/main craft.
    3259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1366971)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There was yellow post it note that said

    "Where were you, back tomorrow" ......


    Does that mean he's been back already? I didn't see him.

    Again.


    He's tricky like that.
    3260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Johnny,Johnny, where for art though Johnny Guinness ? (Message 1366970)
    Posted 12 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think he fell in a black hole and cannot get out since he does not believe in their existence.
    Tullio


    +42!
    3261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Johnny,Johnny, where for art though Johnny Guinness ? (Message 1366810)
    Posted 11 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's probably deep into his studies and can't break away

    What can he be up to???



    Yes Im wondering that as well .

    John3760


    JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us a Caption #51 (Message 1366809)
    Posted 11 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please be aware that Sunday I will be occupied almost all day w/ family and church events-I may not get back on until Monday about 3pm EST.

    Now for something a little on the different side....

    Caption this!



    "But I can't whistle anymore. Besides, I'm trying to get Henry Winkler to co-star in The Da Vinci Code III."
    3263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1366805)
    Posted 11 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eh? Wha'?
    3264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 44th Birthday Blurf!!! (Message 1366552)
    Posted 10 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday, Blurf!
    3265) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Has the lost city of Atlantis been found?? (Message 1366194)
    Posted 10 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    dead Greeks are still dead

    Non-sequitur.
    3266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1366177)
    Posted 10 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Don't fret!"
    3267) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Has the lost city of Atlantis been found?? (Message 1366104)
    Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Other than Atlantis being a complete work of fiction, Yep they found it. I recall that the writing that Homer created that included Altantis was the first mention of this fabled city. Why? because it only existed in His mind. The moral of the story basically is that no matter how great a society man builds, nature will always be greater.


    Yep, Troy was complete fiction!
    3268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1366103)
    Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Al Capone knew that he would lose the next shoot out since his tommy gun in the guitar case had been replaced with a cat."
    3269) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1366101)
    Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bound For ...
    Alzheimers?
    File under Gooba gabba gooba?
    3270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1365900)
    Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, sorry, my cellphone batteries died ....


    Ditto!
    3271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1365897)
    Posted 9 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the recognition, Michael. :)
    3272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1365689)
    Posted 8 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "How many more years before we get to re-enact this scene on the Titanic?"
    3273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1365680)
    Posted 8 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He was here.

    And you let him get away?????!!!!!!

    You were absent from his presence?
    3274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is going to be a long day (Message 1365625)
    Posted 8 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stretch ... .

    Good luck to the mods here!

    Yawn.

    *clinks glass*

    Cheers! :)


    I see I was proven correct.
    Ah, well, it'll be 1/3 more peaceful here now.
    3275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1365622)
    Posted 8 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He was here.
    3276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is going to be a long day (Message 1364201)
    Posted 4 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stretch ... .

    Good luck to the mods here!

    Yawn.
    3277) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1364059)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I seen my UFO about a year and a half ago and still today it still bothers me yet today. It was my one and only time but no one can tell me any different what I saw, many seen just the same. I was smart and wrote it down that night in a file.


    Dude, I was standing right next to you and what I seen was a Chinese lantern.
    Now, dude, where's my car?
    Sweet!
    3278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is going to be a long day (Message 1364055)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can tell it will be a long day at S@H.
    Unfortunately, I will not see much of it. Time to grade final exams!
    3279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 'Why don't you just shoot her?' (Message 1364054)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Astral map error?
    3280) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1364053)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't do anything near that complicated I just said mm 60mph is 1 mile per minute added a extra 20mph for the .3 then forgot I needed the spped for approx. 30 sec posted it and ops i'm a bit out . I was thinking after I posted it was about 140-150 mph so i'm glad I put Sarge your math is better than mine as I figured you would be able to correct me and work it out properly....thank's


    That's not supposed to be complicated.
    If there are extraterrestrial life forms, intelligent, and visiting, they may want to hold off a few centuries before making themselves known. We want to make sure everybody's got the basics of measurement, arithmetic and biology down! :)
    3281) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Documentary Reveals How Bacterial Flagella Self-Assemble (Message 1364050)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Documentary Reveals How Bacterial Flagella Self-Assemble

    How does this make you feel?
    3282) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1363970)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep Sarge I realised I was off a few miles per hr and yep again not that fast some ultra lights can reach 220 mph


    (1.3*nautical*miles/((28*seconds)))*(6076*feet/(1*nautical*miles))*(1*miles/(5280*feet))*(60*seconds/minutes)*(60*minutes/hour) = 192.3409091 miles / hour.
    3283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1363964)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Al Gore & the South Park Boys finally track down the man-dog-bear (not bear-dog-man) just as the people celebrate/mourn that there will be no Ididiterot this year."
    3284) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1363790)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If the radar track 1.3miles away was it then it prob was ,
    Your better at maths than me Sarge but I figure appox 80 odd miles per hour to cover that distance in 28 sec's so man made ultra light plane probbaly


    If I found correct information on converting nautical miles, I think you might have made an error converting seconds to hours. I am getting about 192.3 miles per hour. Either way, not a particularly fast aircraft.
    3285) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1363754)
    Posted 3 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A320: "Er not quite sure what it was but it definitely er quite large [1255:40] and it's blue and yellow"

    UFO's would be unlikely to be blue and yellow, obviously something man made, I guess a balloon.

    Right. Because, we all know aliens are color blind.
    Who are we to say?
    3286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1363587)
    Posted 2 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Karma, not Kama.
    3287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1363462)
    Posted 2 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just had fun wrong in the Caption thread.
    Let's all have fun wrong now and invite Dull & ID in herre.

    Don't you dare young fellah me lad, we have enough trouble with them two where they are thank you very much. And Oi! certain people can't help being clever you know, it isn't a conspiracy.

    Although they may be still out to get you ...

    If either of those two show up before Godot does, I'm outta here......


    And if they show up after Godot? :)
    3288) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1363390)
    Posted 2 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Behold The Mighty Hand of Neo-Atheism.

    Gooba Gabba Gooba Gabba Gooba Gabba

    Bound For It.


    HE knows what gooba gabba means and HE is not amused. (Or SHE.)
    Glad we can have this discussion.

    Blahhhggg for it.
    3289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1363365)
    Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To be honest, I thought Rob's line about the olive was just a response to Chris's joke about the martini. If it was a real entry, I don't get it.


    Well, that sounds like karma! ;)
    3290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1363306)
    Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Point 1.

    Then why do American soldiers get indoctrinated into responding "Sir, Yes Sir!"

    Isn't that one Sir too many?

    Point 2.

    In all Navies "Aye Aye Sir" is the correct response, not one aye less (that was Nelson...)

    C'mon Sarge get a grip :-)


    Please tell Commander Riker that in "Lower Decks".
    I just had fun wrong in the Caption thread.
    Let's all have fun wrong now and invite Dull & ID in herre.
    3291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1363305)
    Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nobody seemed to realize that this gal (hen, remember?) is landing, not taking off...

    Well we won't get in a flap about it, as we wing our way onwards ...

    Chris ('e iz so teric)


    I think it's time we all go find friends who will BOINC, because this is getting darn boring when 3 ppl have similar senses of humor and primarily cycle the winnings of this thread amongst the 3 of themselves.
    3292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1363238)
    Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does the #3 bus come by this way?


    Aye, aye, aye.


    One aye is sufficient acknowledgment, Ensign!
    3293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1363237)
    Posted 1 May 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1 (for Bernie!!)

    Bernie?
    3294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1362756)
    Posted 30 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does the #3 bus come by this way?


    Aye, aye, aye.
    3295) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Broken clock (Message 1362636)
    Posted 29 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time does not stand still, therefore in theory there is no one instant in time that the clock is at midday. It is always going to be fast or slow. whether it is a billionth, trillionth, zillionth of a second is irrelevant.

    For all practical purposes to an earthbound observer, a stopped clock WILL be a reasonably accurate display of the current time twice a day on a 12 hour clock-face. But scientifically it simply cannot do that. That is my point :-)


    A stopped clock is neither fast nor slow. It is stopped.

    Chris is stuck in Xeno's paradox, pre-Leibniz and pre-Newton, thinking all limits are limits that cannot be reached, only approached.
    3296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1362634)
    Posted 29 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please do not quote from the dog of Dorothy, Toto, whilst I am south of the equator, down in Africa.
    3297) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1362630)
    Posted 29 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Until then, well, let's just remind folks that the topic is Romney and how we should vote for him in an election that is already over. (Is that the new GOP plan? Time traveling to sway votes?)
    3298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1362182)
    Posted 28 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Caption THIS!


    Wild Turkey A 11-5-12 3 by THE Holy Hand Grenade!, on Flickr


    Sarah Palin (who "studied" Journalism) and her constant attacks on the "lamestream media" have reduced the NBC peacock to strutting in people's backyards.

    (Who cares if I'm a turkey? Just paint my wings, I'll be a peacock!)
    3299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1362179)
    Posted 28 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do not post a comment and submit an entry at the same time. That's having fun wrong! :)


















    BAZINGA!!!
    3300) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1362177)
    Posted 28 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm glad Barry & Gary created a website that will allow us to discuss these things in a civilized manner. Now, we can watch the Politics Forum here become Dull's place for blahgging.
    3301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #5 (Message 1362054)
    Posted 28 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just a reminder - If you want to discuss a game this is the place to do so, if you want to enter the game, the post in the game thread. If you post both discussion of the game and an entry in one on the game thread don't moan if your post ends up here.


    1) Ridiculous.
    2) Will we next have an expanded "Rules" on the left specifically or posting in those threads. At what point is it no longer any fun at all for anyone?
    3) Plenty of other "discussion" occurred from the posting of a photo to caption and before the declaration of a winner.
    3302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #5 (Message 1361921)
    Posted 27 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think Steven was saying Rob was the winner, but so be it.
    "Now we know what Dune Finkleberry (S@H) goat poster has been ip to when not posting much on here."


    Clearly, the portion "Now we know what Dune Finkleberry (S@H) goat poster has been up to when not posting much on here" is an entry in the caption contest.
    3303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of Cafe games #5 (Message 1361612)
    Posted 27 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think Steven was saying Rob was the winner, but so be it.
    "Now we know what Dune Finkleberry (S@H) goat poster has been ip to when not posting much on here."
    3304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1361584)
    Posted 26 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zzzzzzz wassat? Yawwwwwwwn, scratch scratch, burp, peers out window, rained again - sigh, stumbles to bathroom, naff off cat - wait, splish splosh splish, wheres me razor?, whirr whirr, wander back to bedroom, naff off cat, look in mirror, get depressed, fumble for clean clothes, stagger down stairs, feed cat, open bills through letterbox, get depressed, makes tea .....

    Well, good day everyone, lot of noise around here earlier, must have been the neighbours again. Is it beer o'clock yet?


    'Ave the Vogons arrived yet, to demolish the Earth and build their 'yperspace 'ighway?
    3305) Message boards : Politics : Hey, Second Amendment Lunatics! Think About This: (Message 1361583)
    Posted 26 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    we need to limit pressure cooker size to one quart!!! why would anyone need more then one quart?

    Why do we need to speak to someone who has only made silly analogies?
    3306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1361246)
    Posted 26 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pssst ... to my brothers and sisters in the USA, Canada, Central or South America ... let's wake up our European friends. (I think our Asian friends our already awake?)
    3307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1361069)
    Posted 25 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I clearly should've won the last caption contest.
    3308) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1360927)
    Posted 25 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Room? Qualified? Huh?!?
    Is this somehow connected to the link?
    3309) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1360896)
    Posted 25 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Course run.
    3310) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1360452)
    Posted 24 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Errr, completely logical.
    3311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1360440)
    Posted 24 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our corp firewall blocked it as Porno...

    I guess their firewall is so strong, she'll need to put on a burqa to be acceptable?
    3312) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1360437)
    Posted 24 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is perhaps a poor name? If it relies on probability, then I am willing to bet there's a completely logically foundation for fuzzy logic, which in turn relies on the axiomatic set up on probability I already mentioned.

    There is only one way in which I came anywhere close to fuzzy logic of which I am aware. A prof had handed off to me something he had not been able to completely solve. He thought it would only get to a certain point and then would have to go off into something probabilistic. (We knew we could not determine the number of some things completely and why. But, I was able to show him that through a change in perspective we could determine it concretely with only one thing unknown, eliminating the need for probabilistic solutions.)
    3313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1360423)
    Posted 23 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Tiffany Amber Thiessen soon learns that being 'Saved by the Bell' doesn't apply to the wrath of cows."
    3314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Diss Is One Tasty Troll Sandwich. (Message 1360188)
    Posted 23 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqNlQlJ4Jo
    3315) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1360102)
    Posted 23 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe he is talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmPFMB09fU. Check out about 7 minutes into it.
    However, I think someone even convinced the UFO Hunter Bill Byrnes of a debunking of it.
    3316) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1359983)
    Posted 22 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Logic is considering various parameters, and using rational thought processes, coming to a considered conclusion".

    But I'll chuck a spanner in the works - If certain scientists hadn't thought "outside the box" we wouldn't have discovered some of the breakthroughs that we have done. So secondary question - what about fuzzy logic and Chaos Theory? is plain logic always the best thing?


    I posted this at the beginning, never got a response, at least not one that I saw.


    No, there was no response. Please define "fuzzy logic".

    Chaos theory can be thought of, one level, as a branch of geometry that deals with self-similarity. (This is an oversimplification, but will do.) I know of no ways in which Chaos Theory lies outside the rest of mathematics and its use axiomatic reasoning.

    However, "is [using] plain logic always the best thing"?
    I'd say outside of philosophy and mathematics, we're all using something else as well. Still, in political and scientific debates such as what takes place here, not knowing the logical basis leads to easily torn apart posts.
    3317) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1359639)
    Posted 22 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would suggest that a team of Seals could get the job done.
    No telling what would break loose after that though.


    And, curious....
    Who would be next in line if Pingpong bit the big one?

    Good question Mark, Does he have kids?


    No. He just recently married.

    As for sending in a SEAL team ... yeah ... let's see people deny it happened ... or deny it succeeded (if in fact successful), so on and so forth.

    How many years did it take before the death of Bin Laden was acknowledged?

    I suggest you watch zero dark thirty again.


    Sounds like a deliberate misinterpretation of what I posted.
    I see Bono's words a true now: apparently I must watch your movie in place of news/analysis, eh?
    3318) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1359584)
    Posted 22 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blathering is not the same as difficulty expressing one's self.
    3319) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1359562)
    Posted 21 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is what Wikipedia says.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

    Steve


    I find the title of the "further reading" suggested interesting:
    The Myth of Religious Violence: Secular Ideology and the Roots of Modern Conflict, W. Cavanaugh, Oxford University Press, 2009. ISBN 978-0-19-538504-5
    3320) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1359559)
    Posted 21 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The lack of comments on this topic tells me that this subject is of little use to the majority of the posters on these boards. Many post with no clear methodology on how they reached their conclusions.


    I'd say it's not whether it is of use or not, but not realizing the usefulness.

    (I also think even those of us applying logic cannot claim to be doing so all the time.)

    I do wish those responding to I.D. has joined. Maybe the problem is that the thread where this came up is not visible. Frankly, I do not know what caused that; probably only one post towards the end needed to be hidden. But, I'd better say no more than that.
    3321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1359557)
    Posted 21 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot likes bananas...

    How do you know? Have you met him?


    I met him backstage...


    Did you kiss him?


    Hmmmm...that's between him and me...;)


    Because I am pretty sure that was me. ;)



    Ah! So you are Godot! ;)


    You just thought I was.
    But you looked so good, I couldn't turn away from your kisses.
    3322) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1359553)
    Posted 21 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would suggest that a team of Seals could get the job done.
    No telling what would break loose after that though.


    And, curious....
    Who would be next in line if Pingpong bit the big one?

    Good question Mark, Does he have kids?


    No. He just recently married.

    As for sending in a SEAL team ... yeah ... let's see people deny it happened ... or deny it succeeded (if in fact successful), so on and so forth.
    3323) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1359170)
    Posted 21 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge I don't think I.D will come here your talking about logic and there an't any logic in I.D
    only the logic that the earth doesn't spin or wee would all fly off ?????

    good one


    (The poster) I.D. is currently on "vacation". The invitation was to Mr. Kevvy or whomever it was that responded to I.D. in a certain way, which I found to not be entirely accurate, either.

    @William

    Point of order. All math is based on formal logic. All logic is based on Axiomatic set theory. Specifically, the Zermelo-Frankel system


    You and I know this.
    I essentially said it.
    Beyond what was already said, I don't think it moves the discussion forward any.

    This might have: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71387&postid=1356988.

    But, since Mr. Kevvy or the poster that talked to I.D. about "armchair philosophers" vs. "experimentalists" has not joined, or no one has responded to the comments in the above link, then this thread has just about run its course. If no one follows up on that post, whether Mr. Kevvy or otherwise, then I may ask the mods to just lock the thread. We're not going anywhere with this right now.
    3324) Message boards : Politics : Nevmind............ (Message 1359115)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Iba ba thinkba thatba Markba and Dullba needba toba goba inbatoba businessba tobagetherba, formba onbalineba blatheringba blogba!
    (They are so alike, it's funny when they dig at each "other".)

    Yeah, you'll laugh when the day comes.

    And Dull and I are shooting at each other because you all are gone.

    Enjoy your day.


    You might think so, but if God exists, most assuredly you do not know all in God's mind, nor I, nor anyone else. Your brand of Christianity (similar to I.D.'s) wants to condemn to Hell all those who disagree with you or you believe have done you wrong. You and I have been told to love our neighbors (including our enemies). I do not see love from you. I do not see attempts to understand from you. If I have done you wrong, there is a source for it. Somewhere in these past 6-7 years, you demonstrated that same not wanting to understand, when in fact I was trying to assist you is quite likely the reason. And trust me, there are so many times when people could take digs at you that they let slip by. Because ultimately, we do understand, at least a little. And we give you your space.
    In the meantime, what is there about this thread (besides jabs) that merits it being in the Cafe and not Politics?
    3325) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1359111)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

    I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


    And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.

    Trying to forget all the massive killing done in the name of the lord huh?

    1) The crusades.
    2) The inquisition.
    3) The killing of the Native Americans.
    need I go on?


    I have not forgotten and have, I am sure, discussed those things here before. I would not accuse you of trying to forget all the killing via Stalin and his ilk during the atheist rule of the USSR. I would not expect you to go for a simplistic answer.
    3326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : arghhhhhhhhhhh. (Message 1359011)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen the DullMSat blog site? I hear they're RACing in MILLIONS!
    3327) Message boards : Politics : Nevmind............ (Message 1359010)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Iba ba thinkba thatba Markba and Dullba needba toba goba inbatoba businessba tobagetherba, formba onbalineba blatheringba blogba!
    (They are so alike, it's funny when they dig at each "other".)
    3328) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1359009)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RELIGION has killed more people than other men intended.

    I remember saying exactly that here 5 years ago, when I got roundly castigated by everyone.


    And rightly so, trying to blame violence and death solely on religion, when we know the USSR had no religion. Such a statement seems to be about as silly as saying that atheism has killed millions in the 20th century. Both simplistic views.
    3329) Message boards : Politics : Boston Marathon Bombing (Message 1358758)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We put people in jail who yell jump at people standing on a bridge. When are we going to put radical preachers in jail for telling people to go out and murder in the name of a deity?


    Good question!
    3330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1358757)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot likes bananas...

    How do you know? Have you met him?


    I met him backstage...


    Did you kiss him?


    Hmmmm...that's between him and me...;)


    Because I am pretty sure that was me. ;)

    Maybe that's Godots plan. We all sit around chatting and before you know it someones preggers.
    The cafe does have a shed for us guys to hide in yes?

    [run for the shed gif :)]


    Speechless!
    3331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : arghhhhhhhhhhh. (Message 1358745)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    that is why I seem so...........distinct.
    It's because I live there. And you don't quite understand.
    I have another life.......

    In other words.........in the Twilight Zone.


    You need to be Taken Away to the Padded Cell Zone.

    Bound For It.


    Don't worry, Mark, he's as guilty or more of the the type of posts of which you've been accused.
    3332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1358723)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Snow ball fight? I got this!"
    3333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1358721)
    Posted 20 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot likes bananas...

    How do you know? Have you met him?


    I met him backstage...


    Did you kiss him?


    Hmmmm...that's between him and me...;)


    Because I am pretty sure that was me. ;)
    3334) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1358327)
    Posted 19 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The problem is not mental health . Nodody wont's to take your guns away . Militay weapons should stay in the military . It's called gun control . Under to 2nd ammendendment you could advocate owning your own nuke but is anybody realy suggesting that is ok

    I was going to put up a defence of the 2nd ammendmant but it's obvious America is most respectful or intelligent enough to hold the write to bear arms


    Mental health most certainly is an issue.
    On the other hand, one might wonder if there is some healthy paranoia about the Second Amendment rights or if it just plain paranoia.
    3335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1358325)
    Posted 19 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot likes bananas...

    How do you know? Have you met him?


    I met him backstage...


    Did you kiss him?
    3336) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1358323)
    Posted 19 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4.7 billion years old.

    Steve

    Edit: And, just about everything on earth is the result of a previously exploded star(s).


    HIS HOLY NOODLINESS curses you, blashpemer!










    ;)
    3337) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1358312)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Spaghetti is only a variation on Noodles and they have been around for over 4,000 years.


    So, you believe the world is only slightly older than 4000 years?
    How dare you?!? His Noodliness writ in his Noodly hand in his Holy Noodles Book that he created it 83242 years ago!
    3338) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1358243)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank goodness we have Brainiacs today like Robert Waite to set out a righteous path for us.


    It was a simple question Sarge. Why wouldn't the creator of the universe and all life within it have something to say about microbes?

    After all, those microbes that the creator saw fit to place here with us are the source of so many of our illnesses.
    If the invisible man in the sky had time to spell out what to eat and what not to eat, if he had time to tell us how to treat our wives, children and slaves, why not take a moment to tell us about microbes and the functions they provide in the grand scheme?


    Look, pasta wasn't even invented until a few hundred years ago.
    How could the Flying Spaghetti Monster have created the world?!?
    Unless ...
    ... we had help from extraterrestrial pasta, that interacted with some primitive form of pasta and manipulated it over the course of thousands of years until it look like the pasta we have and eat today?
    Could it be?
    And the answer is ... yes!
    3339) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1358239)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, apparently James isn't at work 10:45a Syracuse time (and not hiding posts violating rules).
    Hop on I-81. Drive south. Pass Cortland. (You may notice around Cortland a change in the weather. One can be in a blizzard in Syracuse and then enter wonderful springtime weather while passing Cortland. Yes, this can happen in April, such as in 1994.)
    Do not cross the PA border.
    At Binghamton, turn west onto old NYS Route 17 (I-86 now?). Proceed to Elmira. Do not turn too early, as you probably do not want to end up in Southside.
    Take what is probably called the Water Street Exit. Very quickly, you should see St. Joseph's hospital. See if St. Joe's Psych Center is still there. If so, look into its conditions. Educate yourself about mental health issues.
    On your return, if you can figure out which big hill the psych center of the Binghamton area is on, you can also check the conditions there and further educate yourself on mental health issues.
    None of this will suggest to you that care should be cut.
    All of this will suggest you could not read that I said they should have stayed on the mental health topic and that many do not understand mental health issues.
    Your response remains one of the most bizarre misreads ever. Nice to see you and Dull patting each others' backs over it.

    As I work nights why would I be at work? As to not hiding posts see the forum moderation post up above about off topic posts. Seeing as the OP isnt redXing off topic posts they stay.

    As for your directions Thats the long way. Id get off at Cortland and take Route 13.


    Some would do that, as my Dad did. I haven't had to make the trip in over 20 years, so not remembering Route 13 is forgiveable. Either way, the trip's about 2 hours.
    But the focus is on mental health. Something that was in the narrative in December and January, but is not now. It should be.
    3340) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1358064)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, apparently James isn't at work 10:45a Syracuse time (and not hiding posts violating rules).
    Hop on I-81. Drive south. Pass Cortland. (You may notice around Cortland a change in the weather. One can be in a blizzard in Syracuse and then enter wonderful springtime weather while passing Cortland. Yes, this can happen in April, such as in 1994.)
    Do not cross the PA border.
    At Binghamton, turn west onto old NYS Route 17 (I-86 now?). Proceed to Elmira. Do not turn too early, as you probably do not want to end up in Southside.
    Take what is probably called the Water Street Exit. Very quickly, you should see St. Joseph's hospital. See if St. Joe's Psych Center is still there. If so, look into its conditions. Educate yourself about mental health issues.
    On your return, if you can figure out which big hill the psych center of the Binghamton area is on, you can also check the conditions there and further educate yourself on mental health issues.
    None of this will suggest to you that care should be cut.
    All of this will suggest you could not read that I said they should have stayed on the mental health topic and that many do not understand mental health issues.
    Your response remains one of the most bizarre misreads ever. Nice to see you and Dull patting each others' backs over it.
    3341) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1358061)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris they where intended for the one who advcakes if more the 6 children are killed then 3 gen's should got to jail wont planet is he from

    I suspect he's watched a bit too much Star Trek & thinks he's a Klingon!
    3342) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1358058)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I recall there is evidence in the bible of a leper colony practising what we would recognise today as an isolation hospital or barrier nursing.


    Those silly, stupid ancients. Thank goodness we have Brainiacs today like Robert Waite to set out a righteous path for us.
    3343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1357919)
    Posted 18 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should write plays, Sten Arne, really good:)


    Heh, I didn't write that. It was directly from the play itself:

    http://samuel-beckett.net/Waiting_for_Godot_Part1.html


    I knew that.
    3344) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1357856)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The problem with appreciating microbes is that they are invisible, Dr. Woese said. But they make up at least 80 percent or perhaps even 90 percent of the biomass. In terms of living protoplasm, he said, microbes outweigh all plants, insects and animals."

    I've heard this from many different sources over the years. The quote is from the article the link will take you to.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/15/science/microbial-life-s-steadfast-champion.html


    I repeat: where did the Hebrew and Hindi cleansing rituals come from?
    3345) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357855)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Wonder who wrote this the the roof of the building at the bomb site so it can be seen from space?


    Looks like the first word is "Lord".
    Then again, is it REALLY writing? Maybe it is like the "Pyramids on Mars"?
    3346) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357854)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gun powder isnt the only thing you can use. There is a whole host of chemicals that you can throw together

    you've answered your own question ???

    why ??

    maybe reasonable laws ?

    So you think a law would have stopped this? Sorry your wrong. People who want to kill will allways find a way to kill. How about a law that whackos have to be in a mental hospital. Oh sorry the it costs to much to lock up a whacko. We have to save that money for folks who smoke pot.

    So whats your point? Just bashing the US? You stated gunpowder, I stated you can use more than just gunpowder to kill. I suppose you would make a law to have humans live like they did 3000 years ago? Seems like even then we were killing each other.


    Yet the NRA and Marco Rubio have changed their narrative, as I already stated. The discussion of mental health last how long?


    So I take it that your in favor of closing all metnal health facillities and opening half way houses right next door to you?


    James, pardon me, but that was one of the most BIZARRE and WRONG misreads of what I posted. Your assignment for the day is to look up all my posts regarding mental health, then post (in a single post) 100 times "I will not misconstrue what Sarge has posted."

    We KNOW who cut mental health, when and why.

    Sorry, I will not look up all your posts scatterd all over the forum. Say what you have to say in this thread.

    So repaet after me, I will not be nebulous 100 times. :)


    No, I will not post 100 times to not be nebulous.
    1) When I say something vague, it is to parody the vagueness of the post of another who says he himself is doing a parody.
    2) What is so hard to understand about what I said? I commented on it earlier in the thread. You want it in this thread? Then go find it in this thread or at least also consider some other recent related threads.
    Link to posts by me in which "mental health" came up in the thread.
    Link to psots by me in which "gun" came up in the thread.

    See, James, I try to get a sense of where a person is coming from over the course of several of their posts.
    You should easily recognize my parody posts, particularly as a mod.
    You should know the difference between when I am parodying versus when I am being serious.
    And I would think you would know fairly well what I've said with regards to guns and with regards to mental health.
    Your response was as if you'd never read anything I've ever posted, ever.
    3347) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357790)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gun powder isnt the only thing you can use. There is a whole host of chemicals that you can throw together

    you've answered your own question ???

    why ??

    maybe reasonable laws ?

    So you think a law would have stopped this? Sorry your wrong. People who want to kill will allways find a way to kill. How about a law that whackos have to be in a mental hospital. Oh sorry the it costs to much to lock up a whacko. We have to save that money for folks who smoke pot.

    So whats your point? Just bashing the US? You stated gunpowder, I stated you can use more than just gunpowder to kill. I suppose you would make a law to have humans live like they did 3000 years ago? Seems like even then we were killing each other.


    Yet the NRA and Marco Rubio have changed their narrative, as I already stated. The discussion of mental health last how long?


    So I take it that your in favor of closing all metnal health facillities and opening half way houses right next door to you?


    James, pardon me, but that was one of the most BIZARRE and WRONG misreads of what I posted. Your assignment for the day is to look up all my posts regarding mental health, then post (in a single post) 100 times "I will not misconstrue what Sarge has posted."

    We KNOW who cut mental health, when and why.
    3348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1357785)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gulp. No no, it's Sirius that is related not me .... :-))


    Well, Chris will be a monkey's uncle!
    3349) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357783)
    Posted 17 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gun powder isnt the only thing you can use. There is a whole host of chemicals that you can throw together

    you've answered your own question ???

    why ??

    maybe reasonable laws ?

    So you think a law would have stopped this? Sorry your wrong. People who want to kill will allways find a way to kill. How about a law that whackos have to be in a mental hospital. Oh sorry the it costs to much to lock up a whacko. We have to save that money for folks who smoke pot.

    So whats your point? Just bashing the US? You stated gunpowder, I stated you can use more than just gunpowder to kill. I suppose you would make a law to have humans live like they did 3000 years ago? Seems like even then we were killing each other.


    Yet the NRA and Marco Rubio have changed their narrative, as I already stated. The discussion of mental health lasted how long?
    3350) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1357370)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Peace Prizer Has Spaken.

    I Feel Safer Already In My Little Corner Of Hustlin'HusseinWorld.

    Got Jobs Jobs Jobs? Got Better, Less Costly Healthcare? Got Another Fundraiser To Attend?

    Bound For It.


    Follow GWB's advice after 9/11: go shopping.
    3351) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357354)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People can be "normal" well into adulthood, then things go wrong. And with that "normality" follows law-abiding. After things go wrong, there MAY be criminal acts that follow.
    Also, "why the change in narrative?"
    When a politician cannot stick to narrative, you may want to worry about HIS or HER mental health.
    3352) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1357311)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    It says that God created all the living creatures. It says God created the Birds that fly in the air and the Fish that swim in the sea.



    Hey Johnney
    Is there any mention of microbial life in the magic book of true history and all knowledge?
    I think microbes deserve their own chapter as they are the dominant form of life on this planet.
    Hell, as a biomass, they outweigh all other lifeforms combined in pure tonnage.


    Where do you think the cleansing rituals in India and Israel came from, lol?
    3353) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357307)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Marco, we have a violence problem? 2 months ago, the line from your side was "We have a mental health problem in this country." Background checks will hinder the law abiding citizens and criminals will ignore them? Hmmm. Everybody that commits a criminal act was a criminal from birth? No one was ever a law abiding citizen, but then snapped? Yeah, not only do we have a mental health problem in this country, but people do not even understand the problem.

    +1
    3354) Message boards : Politics : Hospitals (Message 1357306)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If there is truly any sin at all, then perhaps bureaucratizing is humanity's worst sin.
    3355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1357302)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our Chris has good ears you know...;)

    Either he or Sirius B has ears like my Dad.
    3356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1357194)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's trying to be logical but hedging his bets at the same time ...


    Chris is way off.
    Let's have him take a trip
    in the way-back machine,
    shall we, eh?
    3357) Message boards : Politics : interesting gun facts (Message 1357193)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Marco, we have a violence problem? 2 months ago, the line from your side was "We have a mental health problem in this country." Background checks will hinder the law abiding citizens and criminals will ignore them? Hmmm. Everybody that commits a criminal act was a criminal from birth? No one was ever a law abiding citizen, but then snapped? Yeah, not only do we have a mental health problem in this country, but people do not even understand the problem.
    3358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1357061)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did I miss him?

    Don't think so.....

    Well, yes ... and no.
    3359) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1357060)
    Posted 15 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I (and betreger, I take it) see logic as a tool, it stands apart from the math. In my day, in my part of the USA, we were explicitly taught about axiomatic systems/reasoning as part of our 10th grade geometry. How much we understood at the time is another matter.

    I think we are saying the same thing, math uses logic as a tool but logic is not a subset of math.


    Thanks.
    I think, for this to continue, I may have to invite Mr. Kevvy in here. Or, find out who it was that posting what I am responding to (besides I.D.) if it was not Kevvy.
    3360) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356988)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would also say that someone may claim to be using logic, but if we come upon two statements from that person (honestly held to be true by that person) that are contradictory, then logical thinking was not used ... or not used extremely well.

    There are posts from just a few days ago in a thread that can no longer be seen. That's what got me started on this ... again.

    I believe it was Mr. Kevvy, responding to I.D., that said something along the lines of:
    "Logic is used by armchair philosophers, and then there are the experimentalists."

    Also: "The Earth can't be rotating. Things would fly off. That's not logical."

    As for armchair philosophers, there's some truth to this, but anyone that knows enough cannot deny how this has led to applications.

    As for the experimentalists, in the time frame that was being referred to, I would guess that the classical age Greeks were just barely moving behind trial and error engineers. Just a bit past those that were able to build pyramids.

    Yes, they were developing the scientific method.

    But it has taken a long time to work out how we know whether the results of an experiment are significant. It is a marriage of the correct application of logic with the experimentation phase.

    Here's a place to start: http://www.psych.utah.edu/aoce/web-text/Hypothesis-Testing/index.htm.

    An experiment, testing a null versus alternate hypotheses only yields significant evidence against the null hypothesis if the probability (assuming the null hypothesis is true) we would have obtained a sample with such a result is low.

    Since probability is relied on, the experimenter is thus bound by the axioms of probability. The statistician, or a user/researcher of probability, is in turn bound by the axioms of calculus because probability draws heavily on calculus.
    3361) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356848)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I (and betreger, I take it) see logic as a tool, it stands apart from the math. In my day, in my part of the USA, we were explicitly taught about axiomatic systems/reasoning as part of our 10th grade geometry. How much we understood at the time is another matter.
    3362) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356745)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For instance the Axiom 1. We take 1 to always be 1. We do not believe 1 to ever be 4. Without this axiom, we can't even define addition.


    This bring me to ask which logic is it you wish to discuss. I'm assuming it is not formal logic as that branch of mathematics seems rather well established.


    Obviously (?), I am going to come at this from my own perspective. I'm looking to see what common ground we have amongst those of us here. Is there something I can say to broaden someone else's perspective, or vice versa?

    The current impetus is I.D.'s frequent attempts to discuss science in a way that fits his beliefs.
    When I originally discussed this, I jumped into Religious Thread 8 back in late 2006. There, as now, I stated I was raised Lutheran but am now agnostic.
    My ... ahem ... discussions back then were with Chuck. He claimed to believe nothing. That every correct statement could be proved. He was, of course, coming at it from his brand of an atheist viewpoint.
    I believe I.D. now, and Chuck then, from opposite sides, did not have a good understanding of logic, proof and science. Whichever angle we're coming from, if we're going to discuss things (as opposed to bashing each other, which happens often enough), then we could all use a better understanding of logic.
    Regarding the first part of your post that I quoted, it remind's me of Chuck's post:
    Demonstrate that 2 + 2 = 4.


    Peano's Axioms, which I have not done much studying about, worked on putting arithmetic on the same kind of "firm ground" Euclid put geometry on by working out axiomatic reasoning.

    But can 1 ever be 4?

    This is like my responses to Chuck.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&postid=435014
    Do you want to go into the 2 + 2 = 4 bit? We all know it's true! You can "demonstrate" it to a child by taking two sets of objects with two elements in each set, count up the total and get 4. Is that a proof? Would it surprise you to learn that mathematicians 100-200 years ago felt a need to axiomatize counting and arithmetic, and in fact did so? If you want more details on how they did it, I'll have to get back to you. I've only seen a little bit of it and it is more in the realm of set theory, of which I have only needed to use portions and have not studied as a content area in its own right.


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&postid=435015

    Then again, you should have been more specific. Right now my clock says it is 3:36. 13 hours from now, it will read 4:36. So, 3 + 13 = 4 (modulo 12). Similarly, 2 + 2 = 0 (mod 4). The set of integers {0, 1, ..., n - 1} form a group under addition modulo n. Refer to my previous post about group theory. Again, it has been shown that the set of axioms for group theory are logically consistent, etc. ... . Plus, in some cases, group theory is demonstrably applicable to "real-life" situations, like my clock arithmetic example.

    I didn't create this and the people who did had little to no agenda except to abstract upon the familiar in order to expand the body of mathematical knowledge.


    So, can 1 ever be 4? Yes, in the sense of "equivalence" modulo 3.

    The other portion, which I'll try to respond to tomorrow, was Mr. Kevvy's apparent assertion to I.D. that logic and experimenting are completely separate things. He may have even been asserting logic can be flimsy, using Glenn's looser definition, perhaps?
    3363) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356731)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was another point my friend made about Logic peoples logic can be wrong if the assumptions are wrong to start off with . It mite sound Logical to them from there point of view.

    So when your told it's Logical look for the hidden assumptions the person made to get to there veiw

    I beg to differ, I posit that the conclusion would be correct based upon the assumptions however weird the assumptions are and we have seen some real weird assumptions on these boards at times.


    I think he is using a looser version of a definition of logical thinking.

    I agree with you, though.



    This shows line segments in the Poincare half-plane.
    3364) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356726)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Axioms, somehow I group with assumptions.


    Essentially the same. I cannot think of a reason to say otherwise. Except, perhaps, there must be a clear to statement, in a certain form, of an axiom/postulate.
    3365) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356725)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I posit that logic is a tool used, sometimes in the thinking process. It has certain rules and can give different conclusions depending upon what assumptions are made. Since not all of us have the same view of reality many start witht different assumptions.


    Precisely. Hence, Euclidean and non-Euclidean Geometry, once it was realized Euclid's Fifth Postulate could not be proven but must in fact remain a postulate.
    Not the exact point I wished to make to Mr. Kevvy, but, from another angle, we see how use of logic as a tool in mathematics has then, in turn, led to experiments: what is the curvature of space? (Can Tullio add to this point? I'm not a physicist.)

    Thank you Chris, Glenn and betreger for joining in. We can learn from each other.

    Humbleness like Socrates.
    3366) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1356690)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I want China and the US to be on the same page, and that can only happen through dialog.


    NEWS FLASH: It is 2013, The 21st Century, and Diplomats Do Not LIE Face To Face Anymore! WE ARE CIVILIZED NOW.

    Bound For It.

    And we weren't civilized a week ago?.....

    Steve


    Is this your first response to him? (The one with the currently hooded figure avatar?)
    3367) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356688)
    Posted 14 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Logic is a thought process by which conclusions are made, based first on known provable facts and then supported by assumptions that are most likely to be true. Also logic depends on being able to rule out conclusions that would result in contradictions to known facts.


    No, known provable facts comes after the assumptions. (Furthermore, we don't always know what facts we'll end up proving.)

    I made this post "Last modified: 4 Oct 2006, 20:42:05 UTC"

    What Euclid put forth as an axiomatic system, and what was accepted for several centuries, is now seen to be flawed. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, people such as David Hilbert tightened things up again. The current view is that an axiomatic system is:

    1) A set of undefined terms. (This avoids circularity. Look at a dictionary, and every word they choose to include --- deemed to be socially accepted as a word --- is defined in terms of other words. Look up these words, and they again are defined in terms of other words. Expand the search far enough, and you'll likely come back to the word you started with.) The set of undefined terms should be kept small.
    2) The set of defined terms.
    3) The set of axioms. This set should also be kept small. (* I shall return to the discussion of axioms momentarily.)
    4) Theorems, if-then statements built up through reasoning/proof.

    From Euclid until Hilbert, axioms were statements taken to be true without proof. These statements were viewed as "self-evident." Interesting? The current approach to axioms is that there does not need to be any self-evidence. The axioms may even be about mathematical structures for which there is no currently known way to view them in the ways we perceive the universe, so how can we talk about them being self-evident? However, the axiomatic system must be consistent. It cannot lead to two if-then statements later on which contradict each other.
    Most importantly, so long as these and perhaps a few other requirements are met, axioms are essentially taken on faith. A "group" is defined as a set where any two elements of the set can be combined by an operation. Every such combination under the operation results in another element of the set. (When I say another, this does not have to mean different.) The operation is associative and, with respect to the operation, there is a (unique) identity element and every element has a(n) (unique) inverse.
    The concept of a group historically came about from recognizing similarities between the addition operation on the set of real numbers, the multiplication operation on the set of real numbers without the 0 element, and several other sets with an operation as I have described. Mathematicians abstracted the ideas, boiled it down to "these are the basics, the minimal set of things, we need to discuss something of interest." The concept was at some point agreed upon through social agreements and formalized.
    Since then, we don't question the axioms. We take them on faith and simply consider what things we can show as a consequence of what we have set forth.
    3368) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356664)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I.D., the poster, recently claimed Logic is a science.
    I said I disagreed. I said if it was, point me to a recent new theorem, or experimental finding, from logic. (It will have to be about logic.)
    Of course, I.D. disagreed, but did not answer my points or say anything else I could find reasonable, whether due to his posting style or understanding or whatever.
    Mr. Kevvy accused I.D. of having an understanding of logic that is 2000 years (or more) old.
    But I did not find Mr. Kevvy's elaboration particularly satisfactory. It was primarily him I was inviting ... as the original invitation to discuss is ... well, you know ... though through know fault of my own that I know. All parts of that other discussion are ... well, you know.
    Mr. Kevvy may have been trying to be brief. He may have been trying to address the response to I.D. on I.D.'s level. I would like to know what he and others think logic is, how it compares to my own understanding, and to either educate or be educated myself, at least a bit.
    There are things I posted about logic 6-7 year ago on these fora. I took more time then. I did a better job at making my points. (Whether I swayed anyone is another matter.)
    I shall begin by saying that it is not just assumptions. Logic includes undefined terms, axioms (or postulates; i.e., unproven statements. A.K.A., the assumptions.) The number of these first two are kept small. Consistency, among other things, is required. Then we have the defined terms. From there, Logic is a TOOL for mathematics and the sciences (not a science itself as far as I can remember/see-refer to the second paragraph). The tool of logic, is to prove or disprove other statements.
    Why Mr. Kevvy thinks this is separate for the experimentalists he mentioned, of classical Greece, I do not know. Perhaps they viewed it this way back then. Today, the two are most definitely NOT separate. To determine whether an experiment has produced significant results, there are specific methods, and these methods rest on logic.
    With this said ... it is now Mr. Kevvy's turn or that of others who wish to join in a serious conversation.
    3369) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356662)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I should not have to write a grand opening to get a ball rolling. You all know what was being discussed in recent threads and how this serves as a point to jump in a different, though related, direction. Instead, a number of times, when I have opened a thread, without writing a grand opening, people jump in with wiseguy comments. When my own thread is clearly parody, or someone else's is, this is not surprising. When the intent is clearly serious, the wiseguy comments are not appreciated. In my next post, I will introduce the impetus for this thread, which people should have known, as they read/posted in recent related threads. I thank the mods in advance for acting on the red Xs I sent last night regarding off-topic posts.
    3370) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1356660)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C.I.A are up to there old tricks again remember Iraq had W.M.D until we got there

    That's not entirely fair, it should be borne in mind that the British MI6 also agreed with the prior assessment of the CIA. And there have been reports that WMD WERE found but were so old and obsolete they couldn't have been used in anger anyway. Of course Iraq hyped up its capability, it's what you do when your back is against the wall.

    The BBC says Mr Kerry is likely to tell Chinese leaders that unless they do more to rein in North Korea, the US will be obliged to keep on focussing strategically on the region - something that makes China nervous. But correspondents say that it is unclear whether Beijing has the political will to do so, and that while Beijing is growing increasingly frustrated with Pyongyang, it is likely to continue supporting the status quo, rather than risk creating instability across its border.

    Time for China to step up to the plate I think.

    @Blurf - is NK targetting Japan as a country, or USA military bases in Japan? Treaty Either way the USA will protect Japan.


    I saw/read 1 or 2 reports that the state news agency in NK has named Tokyo as a major target.
    3371) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1356659)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems Johnney has said that God is/was an immortal ancient alien scientist. Am I remembering correctly? In this case, is this really a God at all?
    What power would such a creature have now?
    And does this merely push it further back. This creature is not a God, but there's something "further out there" in time and space that is Supreme?
    3372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1356500)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have never seen a Clint Eastwood movie and have never wanted to. Though Marty McFly choosing his name in 1885 was might highlarryus.

    Well, you might have the distinct honor of being one of the few who never has.
    Sorry for your loss.

    I have a vague memory of getting my grandma to take me to one or the other, or maybe both, of the orangutan movies. Other than that, I don't think I've seen one either. Just not interested.


    I suspect you are thinking of Charlton Heston.
    3373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1356421)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Relax. Think good thoughts. Wait for Godot.
    3374) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356419)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge but you did leave yourself wide open for that one

    You were following the other thread.
    Do not STIR in here.
    Let the serious discussion begin.
    3375) Message boards : Politics : Good News; God created all Living things! (Message 1356418)
    Posted 13 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Love You GOD.

    Now, will YOU Destroy HumanKind. Me Included.

    Thanks.

    Earth To Be Wonderful Again. Soon.

    Bound For It.


    God has created PETA and Lesbians. Soon, men shall go, and not long after, so will women. So, your lefty-libby please destroy the world desires will be satisfied.

    To Johnney: you think you've provided NEWS? Dude, this is OLD. It's only a matter of whether people believe it or not.
    3376) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356338)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Logically we shouldn't.

    I disagree and I meant the question seriously as it came up in the last 24 hours, plus it has come up time and time again, even before there were Political and Non-SETI Science fora.
    3377) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Discussion of what logic is and is not? (Message 1356334)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shall we discuss?
    3378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1356332)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not seeing "Go ahead, punk, make my day" crap is a loss?
    Man, I dealt with people spewing junk like that, and ACTING on it, when I was FIVE.
    3379) Message boards : Politics : OZZY, as Ambassador Ozzy. (Message 1356329)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Figured this two week ago, but at least it is now.
    3380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1356127)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Double facepalm: when the Fail is so strong, one facepalm is not enough!"
    3381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1356124)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe next election cycle, we can see Michael J. Fox wearing an 80s knit tie, expounding upon the greatness of Ronald Reagan to an empty chair. If only his Parkinson's disease, and Rush Limbaugh's picking on him for his disease, can be controlled long enough for him to complete the skit.
    3382) Message boards : Politics : We are NOT the greatest country in the world anymore......... (Message 1356106)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wish Obama wasn't a dictator. He's really harshing my ability to post on the internet buzz.
    3383) Message boards : Politics : We are NOT the greatest country in the world anymore......... (Message 1355928)
    Posted 12 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Austria = Australia, eh?
    Adam Sandler was from H'os'tra'lia in one movie.

    So I get my history wrong once in a while/.
    you folks all travel around so much it's hard to keep track.
    Except for that bit about parting the red sea.....that was fun.

    We're not talking history at the moment, we're talking geography and also countries with similar sounding names. Just add in an "al" and you can be your own continent, outside Europe, and further south.
    Latvia is strongly considering this, to become Latvalia.
    I have never claimed to be well traveled.
    At best, I was in Canada twice. That's because where I was born in NY was so far north, you just had to go over a bridge.
    Then, once in 1996 for a gathering of internet friends.
    (I don't recall my 1986 trip to Niagara Falls being on the Canadian side, but, if so, then 3 times. Not at all a big whoop for someone already in NY.)
    Family vacations took us no further direct south than Virginia and no further direct west than Tennessee.
    Since then, I only get to see more of this country due to extending my studies or finding work. I am the furthest west I have ever lived. I have lived and worked in YOUR state, Mark. I might be there right now.
    A conference took me to Hawai'i. A minor amount of fun while there, and a whole heck of a lot of work, finishing my presentation and actually giving it, and attending other talks.
    How much impact do you think GWB or BO have had on my travels, positive or negative?
    3384) Message boards : Politics : We are NOT the greatest country in the world anymore......... (Message 1355909)
    Posted 11 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Austria = Australia, eh?
    Adam Sandler was from H'os'tra'lia in one movie.
    3385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1355864)
    Posted 11 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have never seen a Clint Eastwood movie and have never wanted to. Though Marty McFly choosing his name in 1885 was might highlarryus.
    3386) Message boards : Politics : We are NOT the greatest country in the world anymore......... (Message 1355688)
    Posted 11 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YOU may be at YOUR apex,
    but this country
    is going up
    up
    and AWAY!!!
    3387) Message boards : Politics : We are NOT the greatest country in the world anymore......... (Message 1355687)
    Posted 11 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Every couple months, you create a thread with this title.
    I have news for you.
    WE ARE THE BEST FRIGGIN' COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ... IN THE UNIVERSE!!!
    Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3388) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1355507)
    Posted 11 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was an education major in college with math and history as my primary study areas. As I am and was handicapped after graduation I had a difficult time finding a teaching position and the one that I did find was set up for me to fail. Only then did I fall back on my drafting skills to get my first job in the civil engineering field where I stayed until five years ago. Does that explain my comments to your satisfaction, Sarge?


    I will answer quickly, then allowing things to return to topic.
    Yes. In fact, that is credible.
    As I originally studied to teach at the second level, I recall on graduation day a few people shocked to find out I was in the bunch of grads for math. We'd be in education classes together and to fulfill some distribution requirement I'd taken a 300 level history class. Some of my peers from the education classes were in that class. They were preparing to be secondary history teachers. They thought I had was as well. Meaning: I'd held my own and impressed them (and the prof) in an upper level class outside my major. If I remember correctly, the course title was something like "The Gilded Age".
    3389) Message boards : Politics : Ayatollah Lovin' InsaneHustlin'Hussein Workin' Wif Da Tollahs, but No Talkin' or Dealin' wif Da Pukes to Get Country Rolla. Jeez 'O Flip. Did I Type Dat? (Message 1355180)
    Posted 10 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was a history major in college and WWII Naval history is one of my favorite subjects.


    Personal background
    I live in ..., ... about 35 miles north of .... I am a retired civil engineering designer with experience using Autocad and Microstation.


    This, what is found in your profile, is more in keeping with what you've claimed in previous posts than the claim of "history major" you're now making.
    3390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1355162)
    Posted 10 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ...And the Beets goes on

    "When you see Charlie Sheen as a child, it's no wonder he turned out the way he did."
    Turn the beet around!
    3391) Message boards : Politics : More evidence the press is always seeking the negative side of a story (Message 1355161)
    Posted 10 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Panem et circuses?
    Well, enjoy that. LOL!
    3392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1355130)
    Posted 9 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More is better? There is a hole in that theory..

    And our winner is Soft^Spirit!
    With Skil as a runner-up.
    3393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1355023)
    Posted 9 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Minimum of 3 more hours, folks!
    3394) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354847)
    Posted 9 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny how people blame the left or the right for all the problems of the world. Whats funny is the left AND right are bought and wholly owned by the big companies and even international companies. Neither left or right run a person picked by the population itself, what we see is just a dog and pony show. Reckon you all missed Eisenhower's warning of the military industrial complex.?......

    "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
    - Samuel Adams

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    ID. You hit the nail square on the head.

    Politics these days has been reduced to a completely stage managed circus, much like football (pick your own favourite code). Both sides have their rusted on followers, who with varying degrees of fanaticism, claim "their" side is the only one to follow and any new team that wants to join the league is prevented by the prohibitive costs.

    In the end, however, we all know that whatever side is in, nothing much really changes.

    T.A.


    On the other hand, this thought of his is nothing new. Look at the Politics forum from 5-6 years ago.
    3395) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354846)
    Posted 9 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rob you telling me you don't have compulsary voteing in Canada !!
    gasp shock horror

    And for those Americans that think compulsory voteing was introduced by Labour (Democrates) I can inform you it was those bloody Liberals (Republicans) but it backfired on them they still lost the first election after it came in
    Now the bloody Pr$%ks wont to get rid of it and be like the states.

    And all because J.W.B (freaking jerk) won with only 32% of the vote

    Kill all Liberals

    Liberals are only good for F65king things up


    You're post is confusing.
    You have referred to JWB. I suppose you mean Jorge ... errr, George W. Bush?
    If so, Bush, a liberal?!?
    I am sure part of this confusion is different names in different countries, but here in the USA, GWB was/is a member of the Republican party, a conservative.
    3396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1354808)
    Posted 8 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I see 9 entries. Let's get at least 1 more, preferably from someone we haven't seen in the thread lately, or in other threads but not here.
    3397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1354492)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah so is Manyana :-)


    Denada.
    3398) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1354490)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Strangely Sarge, on the subject of Rastafarians Chris is right. It is hard to comprehend how a leader from the Middle East, or North Africa (depending on where you draw he line) is revered by a groups that is normally associated with Jamaica. The group takes their name from Emperor Haile Selassie's pre-reign name "Tafari", and one of his many titles "Ras", which roughly translates as "King", "Duke" or "Head", with Biblical overtones.


    Thanks, Rob. BTW, I did receive your message two weeks ago. Understood. Please pass that on to Fred and the team, as well, if you could.
    3399) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354489)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I have yet to see a piece of paper pay a tax. It would be a neat trick for it to do so. Heck I have never seen one even open a checking account.



    The problem one encounters when trying to discuss issues like this with people like you Gary ...


    Your problem, Robert, is, like the people on the right who castigate those who do not toe their line, you do it from the left. To me, it is very clear Gary is an intelligent person who does not toe much of any line and is certainly no troll. When you or ML1 say such things to him, it does not help those trying to make sense of the things they read here and trying to make decisions. Further, it makes it a lot harder to tell who the true "trolls" are.
    3400) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354444)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    It's reported than more than 50 BILLION dollars will be required to support the illegals that voted for Obama and his amnesty shall require.




    "Illegals" are allowed to vote in the US?
    I'm bringing every lefty I can find and we're voting in the next US federal election.


    And the odds are very good that you'll get away with it, too.


    And I'll repeat the story of how the 55 year old white guy in the voting line just ahead of me left because they told him he needed photo i.d. I'll bet he never came back. I'll bet he planned on voting for Romney. How could he not know Romney & friends wanted him to supply i.d.?
    3401) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1354442)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ethiopia is in the middle east?
    Jamaican Rastafarians. Jamaica is in Ethiopia?
    All Asians have always worshipped their leaders?
    No Westerners ever did or do this? Never ever?
    Severely confused here, Chris.
    3402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1354439)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1354438)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have told you this, many, many times. Godot is real and is on the way!
    3404) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1354261)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stop groaning about your tax burden while supporting tax cuts to the corporate pigs and the pampered wealthy elites. SHEESH

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151376530806275&set=a.180479986274.135777.177486166274&type=1&ref=nf

    Corporations don't pay tax. Never have, never will. The people who buy stuff from corporations pay tax.


    Even the guy from Zambia responding to Dull yesterday knew that.
    3405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1354236)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry about the wait, but I couldn't get a photo posted before the long outrage... (snicker...)

    Yes, that should be left, taken from the kid's perspective...

    And now, for something completely different:...
    Caption THIS!:


    Easter Grey Sq Mer 3-14-13 2 by THE Holy Hand Grenade!, on Flickr

    Photo copyright © 2013, Paul Sullivan (AKA: THE Holy Hand Grenade!)
    Photo taken Merced, CA: photo equipment: Nikon F4s, Promaster 100-400 lens, Kodak Portra 400


    Eric wonders, "Why is the squirrel having an easier time finding food than I am finding alien signals?"
    3406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1354235)
    Posted 7 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, He exists, alright!
    3407) Message boards : Politics : As a Chinese perspective on North Korea (Message 1354022)
    Posted 6 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Humans Are Human.

    Humans Only Want To Destroy.

    Destruction Is The Human Way.

    No Hope. No Change. No Humans. Soon. Real Soon.

    Bound For It.


    Someone award the man a Ph.D.! :)
    Brainiac for it.
    3408) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1353912)
    Posted 6 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Say Any Citizen Of Any Time, AnyWhere In The World where CERTAIN CITIZENS can say:
    Things aren't bad for us....I just don't see your concerns.
    And MOST OTHER CITIZENS can not SAY.

    Doin' Fine and Drinkin' Wine

    Bound For It.


    Wait.
    You claim to be privileged.
    Do you really think you're the one out there fighting for the disadvantaged?

    Blurf, glad things are going well for you. For some of us, it's a mixed bag. But, where the blame lies, that can be debated.
    3409) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1353908)
    Posted 6 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The MIGHTY HAND Is About To...

    Bound For It.


    Play some racquetball?

    Blog for it.
    3410) Message boards : Politics : I don't suppose.......... (Message 1353907)
    Posted 6 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Left or right seems to depend upon where you are viewed from.


    betreger, I think you'll understand me when I say "Sounds like something liberals would say."

    Where we stand is not determined by how others perceive or even where we think we stand, but where we actually stand. I do not believe there is a principle similar to Heisenberg that can apply here.
    3411) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1353903)
    Posted 6 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wonder Twin powers, activate!

    Obama: form of ... a SHIELD!
    Boehner: shape of ... WATER!

    Blog for it.
    3412) Message boards : Politics : I don't suppose.......... (Message 1353899)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More left than right?
    Are you only focusing on the past 1-2 years?
    Do you think I'm a lefty? (I do write with my left hand, lol!)
    Funny, Blurf stated a few months back he thought I was a conservative, or at least more on the right.
    How is it you two draw such different conclusions, then, if you think I'm a lefty, Mark?
    3413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : And I suppose you really do not know. (Message 1353808)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But I really DO want to know if we've received signals from aliens.
    3414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1353807)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot was a synthpop band formed in England, in November 1980, by Merseyside musicians Dave Hughes on instruments, and Keith Hartley on vocals and instruments.




    You see, I knew it...;)


    You say you did, but we have no proof via previous post.
    3415) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1353801)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lets face it 1 day they will be right might miss 99 outa 100 but it only takes 1 time and it's bye bye see ya on the other side.

    To about a third of the worlds population that "1" has already occurred with
    the Prophets prediction of, "The coming of the Messiah" To the Muslims this will
    have been a reference to Mohamed, for Mohamed states that both he and Jesus were
    sent by God. Hence since Mohamed came along after Jesus then it could be
    construed that the second coming of the Messiah was Mohamed himself. So that's
    the one the prophets got right. Well one of them anyway but I don't hold out
    much hope for any of the others. Well, I don't suppose the Christians would agree
    that Mohamed fitted the bill for this Messiah business so to this end it could
    be stated that we are still waiting for a prophesy to come true...if ever one
    of them eventually does come to pass.


    WTH? No, no, no. What are your sources? You think Muslims believe Mohammed was the Messiah? No, no, no. They believe he was just the Last Prophet. (David Koresh disagreed.) Jesus ... they (or some ... half?) ... believe he was a man ... a prophet ... that God pulled up to Heaven. They say he did not actually die on the cross. Someone else did. Jesus is with God in Heaven. They believe that it is at the Second Coming that he will fulfill his role as Messiah/Savior. But, nonetheless, is a man.
    3416) Message boards : Politics : Why? (Message 1353797)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let me state in clear, simple language, why.
    Because the presentation sucks. Sucky, sucky, sucky. Abysmally bad.
    Or it is so clear the presenters are acting, while off camera (similar to the way some here post) they act, believe and think a different way.
    You are losing because people that are anywhere remotely close to thinking like you do are put off by your abysmally bad presentations. (That, and when there's even a minor disagreement, you dignify them with the moniker of Ba'al.)
    Crap. I guess "abysmal", "dignify" and "moniker" might have had a few too many syllables.
    Oh, well, I actually trust you get the gist.
    So, lesson is: keep giving sucky presentation, continue to lose, not because the other side is taking over the world and satisfying your apocalyptic nightmares.
    3417) Message boards : Politics : I have told you about this for a long, long time, my friends. (Message 1353793)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't that the definition?
    3418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1353479)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot was a synthpop band formed in England, in November 1980, by Merseyside musicians Dave Hughes on instruments, and Keith Hartley on vocals and instruments.


    Is this the plot line of the Drew Barrymore movie "Music & Lyrics"?
    3419) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1353477)
    Posted 5 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    according to news sources, the North hasnt moved any troops or equipment that would show any sign of imminent attack or provication. The north has made one thing clear. they tell a good story.


    Really? That's not what I've heard. And I haven't tuned into FOX recently.
    3420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1353122)
    Posted 4 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello.

    Is it you we're looking for?


    Are you Godot? Am I?
    3421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1353036)
    Posted 4 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello.
    3422) Message boards : Politics : Behold HIS MIGHTY Hand (Message 1352667)
    Posted 1 Apr 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has UCB offered blog space yet?

    Blog for it.
    3423) Message boards : Politics : Absolutists (Message 1352549)
    Posted 31 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, you and I tend to agree a lot -- even though I characterize myself as 'center-left' and would not assail you with that characterization. <smile>

    Center-orthogonal might be closer to correct <smile>


    Dang it, I come here to GET AWAY from the math, and then Gary has to fire a missile at right angles to reality.
    3424) Message boards : Politics : Absolutists (Message 1352546)
    Posted 31 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is The Smart Ones, The Educated Ones, The Intelligensia, The Brainiacs, The Aristocracy Of The Mind Ones, who Are To Be Feared/Not Trusted.

    The Dummies Amongst US will Always Be on The Losing End with These Highly Educated Ones In Control.

    And Said Ones who are Not Inclined to Decimate The Dummies Into Submission, they fill The Halls Of Bureaucracy, Academia, and Other Bastions Of Control and Further Pummel The Dummies with Their Superiority Of Rules, Regs, Laws and General Suffucations Of Spirit and Draining Of Resources.

    Give me A Dummy Anyday. One who has learned Right From Wrong, and Other Absolutisms. They also will Take From The Weaker of Mind, Body and Spirit, but on A Personal Level and can be Paid Back In Kind.

    What Revenge Can Be Had Against Superior Minds on A Macro Level? None. Voting Is A Joke. Protesting Is A Joke. All The Constitutional Rights Of Assembly and Free Speech Are A Joke.

    Education and Critical Thinking has Put The US into This Madness. The Smart Ones use Their Advantage Of Mind against All The So-Called Ones Who Can't Think Critically.

    Bound For It.


    P.S.-if the "ads" posted in 2008 were anywhere near close, then those in control are not brainiacs at all. They are barely above average. So think again about how they got into positions of power, and how the rest you railed against are nearly as powerless as the rest you lament.
    3425) Message boards : Politics : Absolutists (Message 1352544)
    Posted 31 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is The Smart Ones, The Educated Ones, The Intelligensia, The Brainiacs, The Aristocracy Of The Mind Ones, who Are To Be Feared/Not Trusted.

    The Dummies Amongst US will Always Be on The Losing End with These Highly Educated Ones In Control.


    Given those here you think are the brainiacs, now you think we're in control?
    Man, what a hoot and a holla.
    Blog for it.
    3426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1349294)
    Posted 22 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know a hottie from Naperville.

    I know a few too, but none of them is interested in me.


    Her name is Tanya C.
    3427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1349272)
    Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    3428) Message boards : Politics : What's Worked, And What Hasn't, In Gun-Loving Switzerland. (Message 1349261)
    Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's Worked, And What Hasn't, In Gun-Loving Switzerland.


    Ah. Another link.
    Please, click my link even though I've said pretty much nothing about it.
    Then talk about it,
    so I can claim you didn't really read it.
    Because my whole point is to shut you up.

    My response? Go write a blog.

    I hope no one responds to your latest thread after this one. Believe whatever you like about my reasons for saying this. They are clear to all others.
    3429) Message boards : Politics : OZZY, as Ambassador Ozzy. (Message 1349243)
    Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2004, According to a poll on Yahoo! News, Ozzy Osbourne was named the nation's favourite ambassador to welcome aliens to planet earth. The poll of internet users was carried out following the discovery of signs of water on Mars. Ozzy won 26 per cent of the vote, Simon Cowell, came last on the list, with just three per cent of the vote. For some reason, no troubled former child stars made the list.


    Your point was to shut us up.
    You're welcome & enjoy (the silence, DM).
    3430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1349242)
    Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn, I missed him again??

    We don't know for sure. Either he still hasn't come or we all missed him.

    Hmmm...ok...back to sleeping again then...

    But I thought it was your turn to stay awake for him.


    I know a hottie from Naperville.
    3431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1348961)
    Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn, I missed him again??

    We don't know for sure. Either he still hasn't come or we all missed him.

    Hmmm...ok...back to sleeping again then...

    But I thought it was your turn to stay awake for him.


    Nope.
    3432) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1348507)
    Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoo wee! Woman o'livey! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
    Er. Wait.
    "There is no immediate debt crisis."
    Obeekabey, sky is NOT falling.
    Er. Wait.
    "But, it's on the horizon!"
    Doesn't he sound a lot like AlGorithm? Let' join the Debt Deniers Club!
    Impeach John Boehner pages forming all over Facebook, populated by people from outside Ohio.


    17 trillion in debt.

    80 trillion in unfunded liabilities.


    You be Chicken Little congruents into AlGoreRhythym.
    3433) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1348499)
    Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoo wee! Woman o'livey! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
    Er. Wait.
    "There is no immediate debt crisis."
    Obeekabey, sky is NOT falling.
    Er. Wait.
    "But, it's on the horizon!"
    Doesn't he sound a lot like AlGorithm? Let' join the Debt Deniers Club!
    Impeach John Boehner pages forming all over Facebook, populated by people from outside Ohio.
    3434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 50 (Message 1348328)
    Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm so stupid and short, I predict Angela will love my response to what pic she posts and will make me winner. :)
    3435) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1347919)
    Posted 17 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our Prez is good, real good!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? wow what mind altering substance have you been consuming. the prez as you put it is the worst thing to happen to this country since taft was prez. when he was re-elected i felt that most of the voting population had turned into lemmings and are fully ready to blindly follow an idiot off the cliff.. there is no way that obooboo is even remotely a good prez.


    I'm still laughing at your inability to see past a thread title.
    But, here's on for you.

    Sarah Palin, "step away from the teleprompter ... and do your job." Oh. Forgot. YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE, Sarah!!!
    3436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really do care about my Seti friends.................... (Message 1347652)
    Posted 17 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was it Sinalco? New fuer mich.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinalco
    3437) Message boards : Politics : Colored glasses (Message 1347505)
    Posted 17 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How do colored glasses work in reverse?

    When you choose to look at the world through colored glasses it is obvious you get a distorted view. Depending on the glasses such as the infamous rose ones, you see a pleasant place, or a pair with dark dank color you see a cesspool. This much is the easy to understand thing.

    But what does the world see when it looks at you through the glasses the other way? For instance in the rose case, does the world see you as rosy, or does it see you as blue and being in denial of the truth? In the case of dark does it see an incredible light, that is just going to waste?

    What about a pair colored with religious fervor?


    Keep it abstract please, make both me and the mods happy.


    The question answers itself, as the terms are applied to another, not one's self.
    3438) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1347491)
    Posted 17 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi, Trader.
    This is the thread you wanted.












    LOL, LOL, LOL!
    3439) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1347488)
    Posted 17 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha, another person that can only read a thread title.
    3440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really do care about my Seti friends.................... (Message 1347190)
    Posted 16 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OUIY what bad German.
    I don't like those translate sites, as you get garbage in garbage out.
    If you want a good translation send me a PM.


    Meany. :P
    Ich habe viel vergessen! Ich trinke Sinalco.
    3441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really do care about my Seti friends.................... (Message 1347159)
    Posted 16 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bericht der Aktionen wird nun dem des Obersten Führers unternommen.

    Setiforums bei ssl.berkeley.edu

    Auf Wiedersehen.

    Ich bin selten auf diese Längen entnommen. Einige schieben mich um sie, so sind wir hier. Ich nehme nicht wie ein Hund behandelt leicht.

    Meow.


    Dann lassen Sie uns gehen Sie einige Karaoke singen und SETI-Message-Boards für eine nahezu vergessen.
    3442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really do care about my Seti friends.................... (Message 1347135)
    Posted 16 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bericht der Aktionen wird nun dem des Obersten Führers unternommen.

    Setiforums bei ssl.berkeley.edu

    Auf Wiedersehen.
    3443) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Plutos Moon has a name. (Message 1347123)
    Posted 15 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.wmur.com/news/entertainment/Live-long-and-prosper-Vulcan-wins-Pluto-vote/-/9857564/19144036/-/1yxpvgz/-/index.html

    Steve


    It's still a dwarf. :P
    3444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really do care about my Seti friends.................... (Message 1347093)
    Posted 15 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was ist in hier auf gehen?!?
    3445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1346949)
    Posted 15 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Gorbachev! Here I come!


    "How long do I have to hang out like this before Soft chooses my winning caption?"
    3446) Message boards : Politics : Argentina's Jorge Mario Bergoglio elected Pope Francis (Message 1346537)
    Posted 14 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tread carefully Sirius, religion and politics don't mix. The Mail ought to know better as well.

    Funny, I thought the Tea Party proved they were one in the same ...


    "One AND the same"?
    I was going to try and not use that phrase anymore. :)
    So many things I tried TO do.
    3447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to this morning? (Message 1346376)
    Posted 14 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CCR: Suzy Q


    Julie should follow my link.
    3448) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1346173)
    Posted 13 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Public Service Announcement: if you are on an airplane with me while I am traveling with my well-behaved children, and you decide to recline your seat in front of us, I will not correct my children from kicking or pulling on your seat. I also cannot promise that I won't turn my air on high and point it on your bald head for the remainder of the flight. Thank you and have a nice flight.


    When I was consulting and flying every week I quickly learned that business travelers are far more of a pain if the ... to share a plane with than children. I'll take a screaming baby over a ...... with a briefcase and sense of entitlement ALL DAY long.


    Love it.
    Yeah, most people can smell the real bacon-loving entitlement grubbers.


    Aw, yeah, bacon-loving lawsuit suity boy Hanky Greenberg wants some pork.


    SSCP say: give hanky suity boy a big sugary drink to go with him pork.
    3449) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1346172)
    Posted 13 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Public Service Announcement: if you are on an airplane with me while I am traveling with my well-behaved children, and you decide to recline your seat in front of us, I will not correct my children from kicking or pulling on your seat. I also cannot promise that I won't turn my air on high and point it on your bald head for the remainder of the flight. Thank you and have a nice flight.


    When I was consulting and flying every week I quickly learned that business travelers are far more of a pain if the ... to share a plane with than children. I'll take a screaming baby over a ...... with a briefcase and sense of entitlement ALL DAY long.


    Love it.
    Yeah, most people can smell the real bacon-loving entitlement grubbers.


    Aw, yeah, bacon-loving lawsuit suity boy Hanky Greenberg wants some pork.
    3450) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1345965)
    Posted 13 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    teaching to the group slows down everybody not just the bright ones.

    Sorry Dancer you are quite wrong.

    I think I've seen you post about tracks in the UK schools. There are no tracks in USA schools. The morons sit in the same class as the gifted. The class is taught with the aim of getting the most passing scores on the standardized test. Better the pass rate the more $ for the school.


    ====================================================
    my schools were tracked


    We are of a different generation.
    3451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1345964)
    Posted 13 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no idea what to make(up) of this.
    3452) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1345963)
    Posted 13 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Celebrity Apprentice-in-Chief aka Hustlin'HusseinDaCharmer aka When Do Da Peace Equal Da Prize is Hostin' Expensive Dinners w/ His Fav GOPTers.

    No Tours For Da People's House, but Plenty Of Six Figure Staffers at Da House Workin' La Vida Loca.

    Life Is Good As A Guv Emplayee.

    Hope DEM Heavy Ribboned MO FOs are Giving The COMMANDER Good Advice and Pitiful's Emblazoned Leather Jacket and Shades are At The Ready.

    Looking Forward To The Situation Room Pics showing Peace Prizer IN COMMAND.

    Wonda IFn Da Body Bag Suppliers have been told to Increase The Inventory?

    Bound Baby Bound For It.



    Wow, bro'uuuddy, at least you used to post these things before they hit the lamestream media. Now you're behind.
    3453) Message boards : Politics : Tax Avoidance & Evasion (Message 1345628)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The tax in that case is the burden of getting off your butt and doing something to help yourself. As I have commented before, we have grown into a something for nothing society where people can get away with being lazy. Sadly the welfare agencies, although they have peoples best interests at heart, are simply perpetuating this.



    & why wouldn't they? They're only guaranteeing themselves a nice monthly salary shuffling paper around the offices. Put those muppets into employment where they have to actually work & make decisions for themselves & we'll then see if they up to scratch!


    No matter the difficulty teaching, it is easier to teach people to fish than to keep handing them fish.
    That's why I have no qualms teaching for a state university. State or private, whatever.
    3454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1345624)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey that worked a treat I like this game :-)) I've still got my old BBC B computer, and an ancient Zenith P90 computer. Please laugh and buy me some more beer!

    I still have my Orange + II sitting around.

    In lieu of beer, I'll take pizza.


    As thread originator, I insist it be cheeseless. However, it may be heavy on the sauce.

    Pizza without cheese is sacrilege, diet or not. For the pizza I made myself last week, I used mostly low fat cheese and some no-fat.

    I can actually go pretty light on pizza sauce, and prefer it to be processed as much as possible. I want my sauce to be folded, spindled, and mutiliated as much as possible so it doesn't taste like tomatoes any more. I don't like the joints around here that just smush a tomato, add some herbs, and call it sauce.

    If you were making a double entendre, I have no problem with certain types of that kind of sauce, but it doesn't go well with some of my meds.


    No double entendre. I like it medium spicy and tomatoey.
    As for cheeseless, it is probably due to a mild intolerance for lactose since age 30.
    3455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to this morning? (Message 1345490)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stories about life.
    3456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1345445)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah it's Superman !!!

    My cheeseless pizzas, though FAR lighter (note, to those who wish to lose weight) do not fly. They have no chance. I eat them before they have any chance to learn to fly.
    3457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. (Message 1345443)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I live at 43 degrees north latitude. In the winter the high school kids are in the dark. We had been a few weeks into where they had daylight but turning the clocks ahead they are back in the dark for a few more weeks.

    Plus I get some more driving into the rising sun. Thats allways fun.

    And as for farmers, Most I ever knew got up at dawn and worked till dusk. They could have cared less about DST. Cows need to be milked regardless of what the clock said.


    Oh, yeah, I-81 old Route 17, driving into the morning sun in the Syracuse or Binghamton area was a real blast.

    A little west (still in NYS), in winter, sunrise at about 7a, kids furthest out in the district would be getting on the bus at right about that time. There were no long waits in total darkness.
    3458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1345330)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess Nutri-System really DID work for Terry Bradshaw!
    3459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1345326)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is suprapizza.
    3460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. (Message 1345201)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I agree DLST sucks.


    +1!
    3461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1345199)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey that worked a treat I like this game :-)) I've still got my old BBC B computer, and an ancient Zenith P90 computer. Please laugh and buy me some more beer!

    I still have my Orange + II sitting around.

    In lieu of beer, I'll take pizza.


    As thread originator, I insist it be cheeseless. However, it may be heavy on the sauce.
    3462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1345198)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Running behind schedule again... sorry for the delay......

    3rd place - Steven Meyer with "Chihuahua? What chihuahua?"

    2nd place - Bill Walker with "So, where will YOU be sleeping tonight?"

    And the winner is......

    Angela with "Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me."

    Honorable mention goes to all!!


    But, has the PM been sent?
    3463) Message boards : Politics : Tax Avoidance & Evasion (Message 1345197)
    Posted 11 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As to the comparisons in the disparity in wealth, I find this interesting. Back when Romanov, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Ford, Astor, Rothschild, Morgan, and Rockefeller were on top, each had more than any of the top do today, some more than the top 10 combined do today. So when they were at the top, was the bottom much higher that it is today? Or was the disparity far greater than it is today?


    Well, I think Samuel Clemens (aka Mark Twain) had some opinion on this.
    I have sat by his octagonal study.
    3464) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1345115)
    Posted 10 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sirius, you have hit the nail on the head.
    Very much one for governments to get their combined heads around before we walk (crawl, blindfolded?) into a potentially nuclear war, something that no sane person wants.

    (However we do want to see a better deal for the majority of North Koreans who just want enough food on the table)

    The real question to ask, Are Obama and Jong-Il as smart as Kennedy and Khrushchev in the Cuban Missile Crises? If not, prepare to glow.


    A less relevant question to ask would be, if going by last names, shouldn't it be "Kim" or maybe "Kim Jong"?

    Then again, maybe it's not so irrelevant. I know some get offended by not recognizing the difference in order with Occidental versus Oriental names. What other offenses have been taken as many in one culture do not care to know much about another culture?

    "Le Vinh ..." ... two Vietnamese boys I knew when I was about 14. "Le Vinh", IIRC, meant "the son of Vinh" and this was followed by their first/given names.
    3465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1344655)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You'd be shocked at how cheap and limited my phone is.
    Over in the Politics forum, I call it my ObamaPhone.
    3466) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1344653)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How disconnected from reality is our Dictator in Chief?

    ...

    It wouldn't actually be such a bad thing if those in Washington were forced to cut back as well.


    Senators, Representatives, both parties.

    Meanwhile, our favorite name changer should go by the moniker "Devine" next.
    3467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battlestar Galactica Prequel "Blood & Chrome" (Message 1344448)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Honestly, 1/3 to 2/3 of Classic was cheesy. But there was enough, for a late 70s show, of building up the myth.

    Moore, with 4 years, had more time to do so, and probably followed Larson's ideas, and ideas Larson had for a second season, a bit more (pun) closely than most think.

    Where Caprica and B&C fit in with respecting Larson's original ideas, I do not know.
    3468) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : God of the Gaps? (Message 1344317)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID, are you happy that Johnney has already seen the mind of God and knows you are condemned to Hell?
    3469) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : God of the Gaps? (Message 1344316)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would have been nice to meet you in heaven and we could share a laugh together about how we got one up on the atheists.


    Please reminder which book and verse guides us to, "Shun the non-believing, analytically-minded? Whoa, is he. For he shall make a wasteland of his home and yours"?

    Oh, that was "Planet of the Apes", misquoted.

    See, the Bible I learned from growing up told us to spread the Good Word. To love our neighbors. To love our enemies as we love ourselves. And, by what I would say is a reasonable extension, mourn those that will not let themselves be saved.

    Do you choose Jesus Christ as your saviour? Or do you side with the atheist scientists, who are the devil in flesh and blood?


    It is much more this type of attitude ... the fundamelntalist attitude from some Christians and some other faiths as well, that drove me to agnosticism, not the mathematics I know very well and the science I follow.
    3470) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1344312)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    my father always said there were lairs, d@#$ lairs, and statistic's


    Otherwise referred to by a former professor of mine as Sadistics


    Can I tell my class that Monday?
    3471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1344310)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, David!!

    OK, gang, let's see what you can do with this one....



    When I said "Dog-a-pus, I meant an 8 pawed dog/octopus that would use all 8 paws to play fetch. Not some weird dog/cat hybrid!"
    3472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. (Message 1344309)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    UK clocks go forward 31st march. For most of the year, London-New York is 5 hours, New York San Fran is 3 hours. Its roughly 1 hour per thousand miles, as the circumference of the earth is 24,000 miles, and it rotates once a day.


    Reminder: the latest change in dates for the time change occurred around 2005-2007, due to the Bush administration, in hopes that more days with more daylight hours where people are awake would pump up the economy. We see that failed miserably.

    Consume, baby, consume!
    Same advice we got right after 9/11.
    3473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battlestar Galactica Prequel "Blood & Chrome" (Message 1344308)
    Posted 9 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Loved it. Although the combat at the beginning was intense, taking out a cylon ship with his sidearm was great. It's too bad they went with the BORING Caprica series first.

    Btw, these are the events between Caprica and Galactica.


    That's like saying every episode from the Classic series was cheesy crap. We know that's felgercarb.
    3474) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : God of the Gaps? (Message 1344155)
    Posted 8 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cite who you are quoting.
    3475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1344147)
    Posted 8 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well we don't have any double decker trains over here. They were experimented with in the 50's and 60's on the Southern Region, and I remember seeing a couple of them. Class 4DD But we have too many tunnels in the UK and they were too cramped to make them fit under the loading gauge.

    Tell you what, I'll swop one of ours for one of yours :-)


    Hey, Chris, if you have an Android phone, you can now listen to music wrong. ANd for free! :)


    Yoo hoo, Chris!
    3476) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1344068)
    Posted 8 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Such as when you find your spouse in bed with another person? Jealousy is a requirement for that. Not everyone is jealous.


    P.S.-rut roh! Did you just make an argument for socialistic treatment of male/female relations?!?


    P.P.S.-I think Scooby Doo is even realer than Spock. ;)

    ==================================================================

    as to the spock scooby-doo argument I I say more scooby-snacks a.k.a.

    ganja goo balls would lead to less violance.


    Ganja = bad.
    3477) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1343918)
    Posted 8 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps Obama should say that the US received the latest request from NK for glassification and that the request is being studied for rapid implementation.


    Is Rodman back yet? :)
    3478) Message boards : Politics : Tax Avoidance & Evasion (Message 1343899)
    Posted 7 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Point of order.

    The corporate tax rate is lower and the income would have to be declared by the wife and then would be taxed at a high rate for married couples-right now probably at 38%.

    So the supposed scam doesn't hold water.

    I am not a tax accountant but I play one on TV.

    Daddio


    Well, if "corporations are people, my friend", I guess they can get married, though in most places, it'd better be to a corporation of the opposite gender.
    3479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1343780)
    Posted 7 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well we don't have any double decker trains over here. They were experimented with in the 50's and 60's on the Southern Region, and I remember seeing a couple of them. Class 4DD But we have too many tunnels in the UK and they were too cramped to make them fit under the loading gauge.

    Tell you what, I'll swop one of ours for one of yours :-)


    Hey, Chris, if you have an Android phone, you can now listen to music wrong. ANd for free! :)
    3480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1343638)
    Posted 7 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "What do you mean, they've introduced testoterone testing for ice cream models?!?"
    3481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1343637)
    Posted 7 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Is this too anachronistic, me, with my 90s grunge tats and piercings, standing in front old skool 50s cars and ice cream shops?"
    3482) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1343552)
    Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it just empty threats that N.Korea is saying? Who knows.

    Iraq boasted it had WMD, it was decided to play safe and not to take a chance, in case it had. The same view will likely be taken against NK.


    But is there a difference here?
    I'd say, yes.
    It's been proven they're doing nuclear testing.
    The item that's been the butt of jokes has been the delivery system-their missile technology. I've heard no such joking of their nuclear tests.
    3483) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Results from the LHC soon? (Message 1343359)
    Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At the moment: I believe it is quantum loop gravity that is the most promising.


    "Bolderdash! Matter is clearly stringy."
    Besides, quantum lukewarm gravity is better.
    3484) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1343358)
    Posted 6 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    White House Tours For The Public Cancelled Due To Sequestration Cuts.

    (I'm Sure Celebs Can Come and Go As They Please and Others With Fat Checkbooks) Sweetness Be.

    However, AF 1 Continues To Fly to The Next Round Of Golf.

    You Get What You Vote For and We Have A Goodin. Praise Be.

    Tours For Eternity In The Nummulosphere. Free.


    I take it back.
    It's not even a blog.
    It's just a repetition of news stories, from all outlets.
    3485) Message boards : Politics : North Korea (Message 1343321)
    Posted 5 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems China is finally getting worried about N. Korea. Why else would they agree with sanctions. Its about time they stopped aiding and abetting.

    Is it just empty threats that N.Korea is saying? Who knows. But S.Korea should go on high alert mobilize the entire miltary.

    If the North did invade they would find a much better army than they did in 1950. Ive talked with a few vets of Viet Nam and Iraq who said that the ROK troops were feared by the opposing forces.


    They've had time and reason. I wouldn't doubt they're fearsome.
    3486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1342875)
    Posted 4 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe you are correct, Donald.
    3487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1342853)
    Posted 4 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *knock knock knock* "Godot?"

    *knock knock knock* "Godot?"

    *knock knock knock* "Godot?"


    You do realize Godot waits until you've knocked 3 times? :)
    3488) Message boards : Politics : Speaker Boehner is good: time to get 'er done. (Message 1342769)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3489) Message boards : Politics : Speaker Boehner is good: time to get 'er done. (Message 1342709)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blah blah blah.

    Finger' pointin' Hustlin' House Speaker Johnny (Walker0 Boehner, sittin' in his non-flyin' chair stayin' in Washerton.

    Blamer: "Why didn't Senate Demoncrats take a vote and pass a bill to avoid sequestration?"

    Fear-mongerer: "The sequester is dangerous."

    Well, sequestration is now here.

    Is you scared yet?

    SSCP say/sez: turnabout, fair play.
    3490) Message boards : Politics : The rest of the story ... (Message 1342705)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My plan is working. Make Gary think I think Spock is real, and now that I can't remember the scandal at some restaurant that does not exist in my area.
    3491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1342594)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I drank coffee wrong this morning.
    It was very early (for a Saturday morning).
    And it was with company.
    An attractive woman.

    Why is that drinking coffee wrong?


    Because it was a break with routine.
    Sheldon is nothing if not an unadaptable creature of habit.
    He also has a habit of making others wait for Godot.
    3492) Message boards : Politics : The rest of the story ... (Message 1342593)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/02/27/poll-shows-too-many-believe-olive-garden-serves-authentic-ethnic-food/ wrote:
    the poll asked which restaurant had the best chicken. It turns out that 48 percent of Republicans like Chick-fil-A over the 29 percent who like KFC better. Democrats, at 39 percent, like KFC to Chick-fil-A at 18 percent.



    People still eat at Olive Gardens? That's so 1993.
    And what's a Chik-Fil-A? X-rated movie?
    3493) Message boards : Politics : The rest of the story ... (Message 1342592)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I though this was a thread about Paul Harvey.


    Good day.

    On topic, anything owned by Darden is pretty much garbage.


    "I said ... 'Good day!'"
    3494) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old Continent (Message 1342562)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pretty sure the Bermuda stuff is bunk.
    Can't believe how many still talk about it, compared to other more substantial finds.
    3495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1342559)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I drank coffee wrong this morning.
    It was very early (for a Saturday morning).
    And it was with company.
    An attractive woman.
    3496) Message boards : Politics : Religion in schools: All or none? (Message 1342558)
    Posted 3 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am pretty sure "never participated in" (if that was the phrase) refers to being childless; i.e., he's never had a child to send to either apublic or private school.
    3497) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1342373)
    Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally I think Beyonce should be getting about what a lounge singer gets in a dive. But she has a skill set that includes the ability to self aggrandize.

    I hear what you say about the value of different jobs. It does seem crazy. But given the weird ways of value that society places on things, I still say people are paid what society perceives they are worth. That the supply and demand curves are working.

    I think she deserves a pay cut, but I broadly agree with you :-)


    Including the part about perception, Chris?
    3498) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1342371)
    Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear what you say about the value of different jobs. It does seem crazy. But given the weird ways of value that society places on things, I still say people are paid what society perceives they are worth. That the supply and demand curves are working.

    You will find that that the salaries of Hedge Fund CEO's, Bank CEO's and Fortune 500 companies are not decided by "the free market". These companies are a cartel and the internal market inside it is anything but "free".

    All are linked by those on the inside having multiple directorships across many companies and other opportunities for mutual back scratching. i.e. You vote for my rise/bonus and I'll vote for yours.

    We all know what "society" thinks of these people, yet their incomes still stay in the seven figure plus bracket as these people are beyond "society's" reach.

    If anyone truly believes that Wall St, London and Zurich are truly a "Free Market" they're smoking better stuff than I can get.

    T.A.


    I could get you better stuff. ;)
    But I won't partake. :)
    3499) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1342328)
    Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I still say people are paid what society perceives they are worth. That the supply and demand curves are working.


    That's quite different from

    presumably market forces have valued an hours time somewhat close to correct
    .

    No mention of perception was indicated in the earlier was posted.
    3500) Message boards : Politics : Religion in schools: All or none? (Message 1342327)
    Posted 2 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I really don't understand that response, Es.
    3501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Darn it if we didn't go and miss another special birthday... (Message 1341954)
    Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday Young Man!!!

    Now that is a good message.

    These days PYT's mostly call me a [redacted] OLD man.


    PYT? I think this means Gary was listening to Michael Jackson in his "youth", as this is his abbreviation for "Pretty Young Thing(s)".
    3502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1341953)
    Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still haven't found out what the title of this thread means...

    BBT. SHeldon.
    I just woke up wrong, after only 3 hours sleep.
    3503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Darn it if we didn't go and miss another special birthday... (Message 1341840)
    Posted 1 Mar 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And here I thought I'd just go on like any other day ...

    Thanks, guys.


    Is the "h" usually left out on other days?
    Happy birthday, Sir Charpentier.
    3504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1341622)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . Switch mattresses; I believe most European guys have more than
    one mattress; take a tip. :oD


    Apparently, that works for Chris. So well, he sleeps while posting in this thread! :)
    3505) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341534)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But seriously, I believe that perhaps I used allegory, and I find evidence on the web that you have before as well. Namely:

    3506) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341528)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Such as when you find your spouse in bed with another person? Jealousy is a requirement for that. Not everyone is jealous.


    P.S.-rut roh! Did you just make an argument for socialistic treatment of male/female relations?!?


    P.P.S.-I think Scooby Doo is even realer than Spock. ;)
    3507) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341527)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even Spock had to manage his boiling half Vulcan blood.)

    You think Spock was real? Don't think I need say any more. Up to you to undo the damage you have just done to your argument and provide a study.


    You think I think Spock was real? :)
    OK, well, I'll go conduct a study at Comic Con. :)
    3508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1341524)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm about to go to sleep wrong.
    3509) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341523)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Such as when you find your spouse in bed with another person? Jealousy is a requirement for that. Not everyone is jealous.


    P.S.-rut roh! Did you just make an argument for socialistic treatment of male/female relations?!?
    3510) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341522)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've got news for you. While the capacity to snap and strike out violently is present in the majority, it is not universal.


    I'm sorry, but that sounds like an opinion to me.
    If it weren't, I think you would have already provided some links.
    If not, please enlighten me and provide some of those links.
    In the meantime, I would say that we all have the capacity because of the reptilian portion of our evolution. How we react, to twist what dancer42 said a bit, is what matters: we can manage the feelings of jealousy, etc. ... .
    (If some portion of humanity has evolved in the direction of Data, please let me know. Even Spock had to manage his boiling half Vulcan blood.)
    3511) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341505)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 and likely you make more than the 100-120 you judge


    Some I judge go on to make more than me ... perhaps much much more. Standing on the shoulders of giants, a la Isaac Newton, indeed.

    2 I have worked many jobs that in one way or another were unpleasant and payed a premium because others would not or could not work them


    While my profession is "white collar", along the way I have worked some unpleasant jobs or jobs that included some unpleasant tasks. Others could have done them, but did not. I repeatedly took care of unpleasant tasks at some of these jobs, and even outside of work. I was never paid a premium for this.

    3 collective bargaining and federal regulation have made what you say some what true but a doctor is still going to make more than a janitor.


    I've only been a member of a union once. Your point would apply there (thus, not being paid a premium for doing unpleasant tasks).
    There is no union at my current place of employ. In this case, your point does not apply. There are people a few miles away that I have more education than, more years of experience, and probably better reviews of my work than theirs, yet they make more.


    And, to clarify, two people that started the same time as me, with even more education than me, with 10 to 20 more years experience were hired on to make about the same as me.
    3512) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341504)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 and likely you make more than the 100-120 you judge


    Some I judge go on to make more than me ... perhaps much much more. Standing on the shoulders of giants, a la Isaac Newton, indeed.

    2 I have worked many jobs that in one way or another were unpleasant and payed a premium because others would not or could not work them


    While my profession is "white collar", along the way I have worked some unpleasant jobs or jobs that included some unpleasant tasks. Others could have done them, but did not. I repeatedly took care of unpleasant tasks at some of these jobs, and even outside of work. I was never paid a premium for this.

    3 collective bargaining and federal regulation have made what you say some what true but a doctor is still going to make more than a janitor.


    I've only been a member of a union once. Your point would apply there (thus, not being paid a premium for doing unpleasant tasks).
    There is no union at my current place of employ. In this case, your point does not apply. There are people a few miles away that I have more education than, more years of experience, and probably better reviews of my work than theirs, yet they make more.
    3513) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341501)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    three things determine what a job is worth

    1 there is grate responsibility

    i.e. I decide 3 things a year but they will make or brake a fortune 500 company.

    2 the job is nasty or dangerous and a premium must be payed to get anyone to do them

    i.e. I drive a dynamite truck.

    3 there is a need for specialized knowledge

    i.e. I am a doctor.

    yes many people work hard for low pay but they can choose to change their

    situation by doing or preparing to do one of the above three things.


    I'm sorry, but that's a bit naive. Perhaps a kinder way of putting it is "Well, that sounds about the way it should be (maybe), but not how it works out in reality."

    1) My (final) decisions affect the lives of about 100-120 people twice a year. The decisions made by me and my colleagues are to submit subpar/negative reports for 30-40% of those people. Think that's not a big deal? Dig deeper. My/our decisions impact the future earning power of each and every one of those people.

    2) Nice example. But you said nasty, as well as dangerous. So, janitors make what dynamite truck drivers do, or something close?

    I thought not.

    3) When someone with more years of experience, more years of specialized knowledge, and good evaluations from superiors as well as the ones served, but someone else with the same specialization in the same region/area but with less of both experience and level of knowledge can make more their first year than the better qualified at a nearby similar place of employ? Disgusting.

    Sarge, you make an argument that the "free Market" is not working.


    When ID returns, he can look at my post right here and call "intellectual cowardice" (learn what it might look somewhat like in the following, ID):

    Betreger, I do not feel qualified to make that argument. I am simply providing these examples to ask, should we assume it is, or not?
    3514) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341500)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am 53 and as an adult I have never thrown a punch in anger though several times

    I have stopped violence that was in front of me, even when it scared the piss out

    of me.

    I do not claim to be a paragon of virtue, but I have been willing to do what I

    can to protect the little piece of the world I live in.

    big answers are for someone else.

    I feel that if more people would do the say the world would be a nicer place.

    can you say the same?


    Well, I can say that, while I have thrown a small number of punches, to the best of my recollection most or all were in self-defense. Am I not allowed that?

    Can I say the same of what? Trying to make the world a nicer place?

    If you are not a "paragon of virtue", you too have the capacity to snap at some point. Like I said, everyone has the capacity.
    3515) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1341489)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    he made a deal 2 years ago for his tax increases by offering the sequester

    now he is crying fowl on his own deal?

    even with the sequester 42 cents out of each dollar spent will be borrowed.


    "Fowl" is a bird.
    I believe you mean "foul".
    So, you do not believe him when he says something to the effect of, "The sequester was proposed to force compromise. We never dreamed things would actually get this far."

    ??/
    3516) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341487)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    three things determine what a job is worth

    1 there is grate responsibility

    i.e. I decide 3 things a year but they will make or brake a fortune 500 company.

    2 the job is nasty or dangerous and a premium must be payed to get anyone to do them

    i.e. I drive a dynamite truck.

    3 there is a need for specialized knowledge

    i.e. I am a doctor.

    yes many people work hard for low pay but they can choose to change their

    situation by doing or preparing to do one of the above three things.


    I'm sorry, but that's a bit naive. Perhaps a kinder way of putting it is "Well, that sounds about the way it should be (maybe), but not how it works out in reality."

    1) My (final) decisions affect the lives of about 100-120 people twice a year. The decisions made by me and my colleagues are to submit subpar/negative reports for 30-40% of those people. Think that's not a big deal? Dig deeper. My/our decisions impact the future earning power of each and every one of those people.

    2) Nice example. But you said nasty, as well as dangerous. So, janitors make what dynamite truck drivers do, or something close?

    I thought not.

    3) When someone with more years of experience, more years of specialized knowledge, and good evaluations from superiors as well as the ones served, but someone else with the same specialization in the same region/area but with less of both experience and level of knowledge can make more their first year than the better qualified at a nearby similar place of employ? Disgusting.
    3517) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341479)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lots of people who work very hard are very poor.

    Define what makes work "hard" or "easy"

    How do you compare if a dishwasher's work is harder or easier than a bank CFO?

    Gary, that is a fundamental question in micro economics. Each person has their own set of marginal utilities.

    I would like to see ES's meaning and thoughts. I suspect she attaches a meaning to hard work more like I would expect to find in the physics department rather than the economics department.

    Yes, it is a interesting question but presumably market forces have valued an hours time somewhat close to correct.


    I'm not so sure about market forces. Here in Washington state we have the highest min wage, $9.19, in the country and I have not noticed any McDonalds or Burger Kings relocating to Texas. There is still unemployment but the burger joints are fully staffed. If wages were lower as supply and demand presupposes they would hire more people.


    Betreger, you should expand on this, unless it is in fact higher wages due to higher cost of living, which is what Gary suggested. Seattle, I hear, is a VERY expensive place to live. What about other areas of the state?
    3518) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341478)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We have seen temper tantrums here.

    We have. And the tools the mods have are about the same as you use to control a child, a "time out."

    But a temper tantrum here does not have the same results as one in a bar full of other drunks.

    As to 99.44%'ers first we need to define what control is. Control is not getting into physical altercations. Anyone who is 0.56% out of control that way is going to end up in jail, or a mental institution where they belong, thus ending their access to weapons. Perhaps the phrase "road rage" has some application here.


    To respond to this and the next post:

    Lock and Key
    Words by Neil Peart, music by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson

    I don't want to face
    The killer instinct --
    Face it in your or me

    We carry a sensitive cargo
    Below the waterline --
    Ticking like a time bomb
    With a primitive design

    Behind the finer feelings --
    This civilized veneer --
    The heart of a lonely hunter
    Guards a dangerous frontier

    The balance can sometimes fail --
    Strong emotions can tip the scale --

    Don't want to silence
    A desperate voice
    For the sake of security
    No one wants to make
    A terrible choice
    On the price of being free
    I don't want to face
    The killer instinct --
    Face it in you or me
    So we keep it under lock and key...

    It's not a matter of mercy
    It's not a matter of laws
    Plenty of people will kill you
    For some fanatical cause

    It's not a matter of conscience --
    A search for probable cause
    It's just a matter of instinct --
    A matter of fatal flaws

    No reward for resistance
    No assistance --
    No applause...

    We don't want to be victims
    On that we all agree
    So we lock up the killer instinct --
    And throw away the key...


    Perhaps many of us know the great band Rush and recognize the lyrics.
    ANYONE can snap. ANYONE. I posted about the medulla oblongata here 5-6 years ago.
    The degree to which someone snaps can vary.
    But, worse, whether the person who snaps is caught before recovering that "civilized veneer" ... ?
    3519) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1341473)
    Posted 28 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hiyah sarge.

    "The Marble Thinker" by me sometime in Fall 1994 or Winter 1994/1995.

    From one of your early posts in this tread. And one of my favourite "shades of Rodin" songs of yours.


    Rodin?
    3520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1341364)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Somebodies snoring woke me up.

    Story of my life!

    Ooops


    Innit figgerin'?


    figures now ;)


    Mebbe, if'n we pulls Chris outta his retirement, he won't go n sawing logs in threads, now would 'e?
    3521) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1341360)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IMO, people who are unable to control their temper should not own weapons.


    What if one can control one's temper 99.44% of the time?
    To paraphrase a recent post of mine, "I'm so glad people who can control their tempers come with t-shirts with some symbol indicating this emblazoned on it, that temper tantrum throwers never are able to purchase such t-shirts, and that all such t-shirt wearers will maintain such an approach the rest of their lives (hence always being able to wear the t-shirt)."

    Put another way: I treat even the supposed good guys with much healthy skepticism.
    3522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1341283)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Somebodies snoring woke me up.

    Story of my life!

    Ooops


    Innit figgerin'?
    3523) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341277)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lots of people who work very hard are very poor.

    Define what makes work "hard" or "easy"

    How do you compare if a dishwasher's work is harder or easier than a bank CFO?

    Gary, that is a fundamental question in micro economics. Each person has their own set of marginal utilities.

    I would like to see ES's meaning and thoughts. I suspect she attaches a meaning to hard work more like I would expect to find in the physics department rather than the economics department.


    I suspect she is thinking of women in Africa.

    Yes, it is a interesting question but presumably market forces have valued an hours time somewhat close to correct.


    Why should we presume this? This from the same system that believes "corporations are people, my friend"?
    3524) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1341272)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Please implode and get it over with.. so we can get back to reasonable discussions.


    This thread has been around for months.
    You did not recognize the satiric title compared to another? If not, I am very disappointed.
    3525) Message boards : Politics : Intent... (Message 1341270)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    © 2002 - Citizens for a Sound Economy

    So much for that then :-)


    Yes, so much for it being a grassroots organization. Big money is driving it,
    3526) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1341119)
    Posted 27 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whichever of them might might have won, you can't run a country with 1/3 of the people being pissed off. No wonder there is so much unrest in America.

    Vote NONE OF THE A$$E$ BELOW! the only reasonable candidate.


    That would be nice.
    But ...
    any Libertarian candidate that makes it on the ballot would be one those to which you refer. If this person's "brand" of Libertarian matches yours fairly well, would you still use that option?
    3527) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old Continent (Message 1341054)
    Posted 26 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe Plato's Atlantis was there, instead of at Thera/Santorini which happened much later as a volcano explosion which triggered a tsunami hitting the Crete coast and destroying its fleet.
    Tullio


    Researchers have found evidence for a landmass that would have existed between 2,000 and 85 million years ago.


    I do not believe the "2,000" part literally means Roman Empire times. I think the writer(s) meant to say, lasted from 2 billion (2000 million) years ago to 85 million years ago. I believe this makes sense in the context of the mention of Rodinia, which broke up "750 million years ago" (i.e., nearly a billion).

    If correct, your suggestion about Atlantis makes no sense. Atlanteans before the demise of the dinosaurs? I do not think so.
    3528) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1341052)
    Posted 26 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Socialism refers to an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, or citizen ownership of equity.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]



    so there is not just one kind of socialism

    i have yet to see anyone here in america advocating socialism as your definition states it to be.


    You are using someone else's definition (perhaps some UK website), not looking at Marx's original writings.
    What I quoted squares with what I remember reading, from his original, while an undergrad.
    Many people I have met from various walks of life who know what Marx said state it is a "good idea that will never work" because of human nature.
    Marx was responding to abuses of capitalism. Ever since, his ideas have been vilified by those who stand to lose something. What do they stand to lose? Ill-gotten gains; rewards that do match their contributions. Twist the story, and those who stand to lose something can make it sound even worse and convince much larger amounts of people that they, too, stand to lose something.
    3529) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1340900)
    Posted 26 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp.

    Somebody got it right. Anyone that has actually read Marx would know this.
    Hint: you do not need to be socialist to read Marx. And for those 100% opposed to it, shouldn't you actually read his work, instead of taking someone else's definition, so that you really "know your enemy"?

    Many critics have maintained that if anyone in the original scenario were to receive a failing grade, it should have been the economics professor who clearly didn't understand the difference between socialism and communism. Socialism is a system that advocates social ownership of production and distribution, not an equal distribution of resources. (The socialist motto "To each according to his contribution" reflects the principle that members of a socialist society are still rewarded based on how much they contribute to society, not on some more egalitarian basis.) Communism, not socialism, advocates the principle of distributing resources based on an individual's needs rather than the level of his contribution to society ... ."


    This is directly the opposite of IDs claim in the opening post.
    Now, why in the WORLD would Marx have EVER suggested this. Hmmm?
    We like to think in our society that we'll be rewarded for our hard work and good contributions, right? Well, how well have you REALLY contributed? Do your rewards REALLY match YOUR contributions?
    3530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1340894)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    God's final message to His creation, in the Quentulous Quasgar Mountains on whatever planet it was:

    We apologize for the inconvenience.

    If the author received that apology in person, he was very surprised, being an atheist.


    LOL!
    Meanwhile, some "guy" is having fun wrong over in the Politics forum.
    3531) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1340891)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm really glad "good guys" come with good guy symbols emblazoned on their chests, that such symbols are always accurate and no one EVER changes from good to bad (or vice versa).
    3532) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1340889)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head scratcher #n+1

    Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone

    How would you go about informing this lady that she's not making a very strong case to vote for Obama?

    Scratch scratch scratch...


    It'd be QUITE simple.
    You see, Obama was FAR from the Senate, let alone the Presidency when anything EVEN CLOSE to what you purport began.
    It began in 1984.
    That's NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR.
    I guess we should blame Reagan?
    Nah.
    Because it's still not precisely what you purport.
    I'd post a link or two, but we know you wouldn't read it. You wish to force your opinion down all our throats, then change your screen name to one suggesting that someone other than you feels a need to control things here.
    Others have gone down your road ... and failed.
    3533) Message boards : Politics : Intent... (Message 1340883)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check out the date, lol!
    3534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1340797)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Godot is into late night relativistic experiments involving rubber bands and coffee.


    Coffee at relativistic speeds? Where exactly was that silver thingy headed?


    To the one and one place in the universe, as yet unfound, where the constellations spell something really obscene.
    The closest, to date, was when the constellations spelled "Sorry ... about ... the ... inconvenience."
    3535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1340736)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I regret to inform all that, while the rest of you could not view the forum, Godot arrived. I am the only who saw him and conversed with him. He then left in a silvery craft, but promised to return in 2000 minutes.

    They always leave in a silvery craft when no one is around to see it...

    Is he using the alias Wowbagger these days?


    I think Godot is into late night relativistic experiments involving rubber bands and coffee.
    3536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1340633)
    Posted 25 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I regret to inform all that, while the rest of you could not view the forum, Godot arrived. I am the only who saw him and conversed with him. He then left in a silvery craft, but promised to return in 2000 minutes.
    3537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Potatoed fish fries (Message 1340498)
    Posted 24 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dunno where you heard that from, not to my knowledge, and certainly not round my way.


    I was just teasing, Chris.
    3538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Potatoed fish fries (Message 1340386)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear it's the newest food craze in Great Britain?
    Yess, yess?!
    3539) Message boards : Politics : Warning (Message 1340362)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of two that likes to change his screen name often has reacted to my indicating the folly of that (through changing my own screen name).
    You all know this is Sarge.
    If someone else posts as Sarge, here in the Political Forum particularly, before I return to my usual screen name, check their post history. You will quickly figure out who it is.
    3540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1340201)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oddly, a portion of this song was left on my voice mail at work after I'd left Thursday.

    Does your work keep phone logs that you could determine where it may have come from?


    As far as I know, no. Maybe if it came from on campus, such as another office extension.

    If it tells you anything, a phone with caller ID that is off campus will only show a "switchboard" number when called from campus.
    3541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Check Out Musician/Comedian Comedian/Musician Tim Minchin (Message 1340063)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Feeling The Love, Broheims, Feeling The Love.
    IGNORE Say: T.M. Is Worth A Look.


    OK, fellow goatee bro-uddy, gimme your "bad bromance". :)
    3542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1340062)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to topic, such as someone (the young lady or some weirdo freak) leaving me weird voicemail ... on Valentine's Day.
    3543) Message boards : Politics : Religion in schools: All or none? (Message 1340061)
    Posted 22 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The first amendment to the constitution, as follows

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Says that the us government can neither aid or appose religion.

    so as long as pubic schools take federal money they must either teach no religion

    or all of them as well as atheism and agnosticism.

    down this slope would be the ruin of public education.

    States can do as they like if they forgo federal money.

    religions schools take no federal money and once again can do as they please.

    If you want religion in your schools fund them locally that is all you have to

    do, as long as you do not bar any one else from doing the same for their belief

    system or lack there of.

    then the fed will not have to pay for it helping to balance the budget.



    NCLB = LB ===> GWB
    3544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1339885)
    Posted 21 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Converting from two- to one-way proved more difficult than expected, as evidenced by these striped poles." (The police officer noted the direction the poles leaned.)
    3545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Check Out Musician/Comedian Comedian/Musician Tim Minchin (Message 1339765)
    Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Saw his Show On Showtime. Tim Minchin and The Heritage Orchestra at The Royal Albert Hall.

    IGNORE Say: Don't IGNORE This Master/Maestro Of Music/Comedy.


    I tend to not click your links. (Who knows what sots of infestations lurk at sites you tend to link us to?)
    But, this time, you did not even provide a link! :)
    Thus, easily ignored, as you requested! Bravo!!!
    3546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1339551)
    Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oddly, a portion of this song was left on my voice mail at work after I'd left Thursday.

    Returning to topic.

    While I await the return to topic, hey, I finally have over 1000000 credits with S@H!
    3547) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1339549)
    Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IMO, the person who once was a worm has often tried to be obscene long before the avatar changes. I espouse free speech, so I just say roll with it, and learn what he is and try to be different.


    I also advocate free speech.
    But these fora seem to have been set up for DISCUSSION.
    What we have in this and other similar threads is a
    BLOG.
    3548) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1339493)
    Posted 20 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ignore say .

    Note to mods: a preemptive red-X of my own post when "Ignore" changes his avatar to something obscene.
    3549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1339171)
    Posted 17 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oddly, a portion of this song was left on my voice mail at work after I'd left Thursday.

    Returning to topic.
    3550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1339054)
    Posted 17 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oddly, a portion of this song was left on my voice mail at work after I'd left Thursday.
    3551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1338789)
    Posted 16 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, I ran into a friend of hers today.
    She was surprised to hear that the aforementioned young lady no longer speaks to me. (The friend doesn't hear from her anymore, either.)
    3552) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1338667)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apply what you said about Mark recently to ... .
    3553) Message boards : Politics : Why do the devoutly religous search for E.T. life? (Message 1338634)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The ZEAL Of The Atheists Is Getting Out Of Control.

    Pick The News Story. Thousands Of 'em.

    Heil Atheism!

    IGNORE Say: Same 'ole Same 'ole. Frakking Humans.


    Then please convert from your atheism to some zealotrous religion.
    May I suggest Westboroism?
    Otherwise, your hip-hop-anonymous says what?
    3554) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1338346)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The fruit,
    present and absent,
    both bittersweet.
    3555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338335)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How bout The Man From Rio? It's he coming


    Rio?!? LOL!
    3556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338334)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But that might lead to earlier warping when humanity is not yet ready to meet other species!
    Could it be Dr. Sam is the Man from La Mancha?

    Tilting at windmills, is he?[/quote]

    Precisely!
    3557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338326)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I'm sure you all knew, Godot is derived from a French slang for "shoe", godillot. Which Samuel Beckett later admitted.

    As I'm sure Chris knows, this admission is not possible, because Dr. Sam is currently lost in quantum entanglement. He may have even leaped outside of his own lifetime.

    The last I heard, he'd spent four years in the 2150s, with occasional excursions to 1944 and the 2800s.

    Or are he and some buddies waiting for Godot in a diner somewhere?

    It would be nice if he could look some recent history when he was in the 2150's - say about 120 to 130 years old and report back!


    But that might lead to earlier warping when humanity is not yet ready to meet other species!
    Could it be Dr. Sam is the Man from La Mancha?
    3558) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1338283)
    Posted 15 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The low hanging fruit was picked and tossed into the Mariana Trench.

    Self-picking fruit?
    3559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338255)
    Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I'm sure you all knew, Godot is derived from a French slang for "shoe", godillot. Which Samuel Beckett later admitted.


    As I'm sure Chris knows, this admission is not possible, because Dr. Sam is currently lost in quantum entanglement. He may have even leaped outside of his own lifetime.
    3560) Message boards : Politics : Why do the devoutly religous search for E.T. life? (Message 1338254)
    Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not believe we currently have a representative sample of the "devout", "agnostic" nor "atheist". A few years ago each group was *somewhat* better represented. These days, we also have those using their own definitions trying to convince agnostics they are actually atheists.
    I also take issue with "Catholicism and Christianity are different beasts."
    Probably only Catholics would really harp on this distinction, as their group was the first organized/institutionalized group of Christians. Make no qualms: they are Christians.
    Also missing here: discussion of other spiritual/religious routes outside the Abrahamic faiths.
    3561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338098)
    Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did I miss him?


    Still waiting on both Godot and "Mother Ellen".
    3562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1338011)
    Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Big Bang references.

    As was the opening post.
    But "Only Father Sam is missing."
    4 are in the fleet.
    3563) Message boards : Politics : Pope resigns (Message 1338001)
    Posted 14 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great movie. Wonderful actors. Goes a long way on the issue of the afterlife.

    You will like it.

    I've seen it. It was ok.


    You should read the review on it at www.wnd.com!
    3564) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1337850)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear ID:

    The BRAINIACs Say There Is No GOD.

    The BRAINIACs Rule SETiVille.


    Wasn't it a "brainiac" (your term) that said no killings, with guns, take place on firing ranges? Still not going to say who that brainiac was? Or are you applying "brainiac" to different SETIzens differently?

    (Looks around for Socrates. Or Sgt. Schultz.)
    3565) Message boards : Politics : Discussion of State of the Union address (Message 1337781)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is basically what I witnessed last night...

    Care to elaborate? :)
    Have a similar one from, say, 8 to 12 years ago?
    3566) Message boards : Politics : Discussion of State of the Union address (Message 1337768)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The government does not create jobs. It creates debt.

    Thank you gubment for my current and former job.


    I also work for the government. It is by debt I'm also paid. The government makes nothing but debt. If the government took in taxes to pay for my WORK it wouldn't be by debt I was paid. The government borrows to pay my check. As they do your job. The government spends more then it takes from it's tax base.


    Yet with this "debt", as you call it, you have money to pay your bills and otherwise put back into the "economy at large", including to buy goods from a privately-owned company such as ... gasp ... Wal-Mart (or insert whatever company you prefer). Thus, they have the opportunity for profit and to create jobs for their associates.

    If you wish to have a real discussion on this, quoting a short line from Reagan from 30 years ago won't cut it.
    3567) Message boards : Politics : Discussion of State of the Union address (Message 1337741)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Question. Are "State of the Union" speeches meant to say anything?

    I would say they can only put the spotlight on the positives and hope that the negatives remain in the shadows.

    Therefore it has to be a speech about nothing and pure hopes for the future, and therefore the least commented about the better.

    They are just a place where the (current) President (at the time) can pat himself and his cronies on the back for what a great job they are doing.
    Its worthless.


    Edited it for clarity for you. :)
    3568) Message boards : Politics : Discussion of State of the Union address (Message 1337638)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The government does not create jobs. It creates debt.

    Thank you gubment for my current and former job.
    3569) Message boards : Politics : Discussion of State of the Union address (Message 1337598)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy e-mailed me a couple of hours ago and asked me to set up this thread, as his RAC has fallen below the posting threshold. I am happy to do so.
    Worm also e-mailed me, and asked me to say something snarky about the president, as well. I am happy to do so.
    So, as we watch (or not watch) the SotU Address, I wish you to know ... the kitty I rescued about a year ago is asleep. Apparently she's not all fired up by Mr. Obama.
    3570) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1337568)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    put money on it

    Place your bets, ladies and gents.
    3571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1337566)
    Posted 13 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"

    "I had to leave. They were having fun wrong."

    In this 2nd version of "Waiting for Godot", there are no rules beyond the usual S@H general Cafe rules.
    So, take a seat. Or whatever.
    Just wait for Godot patiently.
    Or impatiently.
    Examine the gestalt of the existential emptiness.
    Or fullness.

    Have fun.

    (Or hang "on in quiet desperation." I've heard "it's the English way.")


    "Oh, heck no ... .
    I am SOOO done with Twitter."



    Luckily there's still Facebook ;)


    Geordi LaForge is not as easy to find there.
    3572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1337236)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"

    "I had to leave. They were having fun wrong."

    In this 2nd version of "Waiting for Godot", there are no rules beyond the usual S@H general Cafe rules.
    So, take a seat. Or whatever.
    Just wait for Godot patiently.
    Or impatiently.
    Examine the gestalt of the existential emptiness.
    Or fullness.

    Have fun.

    (Or hang "on in quiet desperation." I've heard "it's the English way.")


    "Oh, heck no ... .
    I am SOOO done with Twitter."
    3573) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1337235)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All law comes from God in some way, shape or form my Country we are a Christian Nation. As Christians we follow Christ. We do not step on another's Faith. Even if that Faith not of Christ. if that person has no Faith at all. As Christians we know that we cannot change a person, they do that themselves.

    What country are you from? I don't recognise it from your description.

    It is by example that we put--thoughts into someone. What that person does with that thinking is all up to them. Some see it as it is, love. Others see it as it isn't, force. The truth is that one cannot force another to accept anything. Such force is just one saying that accept, it isn't true acceptance of God. Such a thing is a personal choice.

    God's morals are something that He has passed down over time to all of us. I'm of the belief that we are born with the basics. A child knows evil when faced with it at a very, very early age. Proof of this has been shown. You believing this proof is not of my concern. I do believe it. I find it proof of God.

    If being Christian makes you so moral, why have so many Christians done so many evil things?

    Ethics would be man made. They do follow the lines of Gods morals. But they are gray lines, wishy-washy. One example is love. We find in love, least I do, that it is made for one man and one woman. This is for procreation. The stable place for children. This would be morals. Mans ethics say that love can be between one man and more then one woman. And or two men or two ladies. Or any combination there in other then one man and one woman.

    Christ had absolutely nothing to say on this issue, so where are you you getting your information from. Please quote the source.

    What this boils down to is what a society is willing to accept in general. Just because a majority accept ethics does not make it right morally or ethically. A simple look a Darwin tells us the such relationships as being gay yield nothing for the society in the short term of long term. It is born of self-gratification and gives nothing of use to the whole of society.

    Not true. There is a whole lot more that can be done to benefiting society that just breeding. A lot of great advancements have been made by gays, possibly because they are not distractracted and burdened with childrearing. Besides, homosexuality is found in other species.


    He has already stated, about a month ago, how he differs with you (or others) on the usage of these two words.
    Do you hope to learn something from him or he from you? If not, you are responding ... why?
    3574) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1337234)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Corprorate Government State--Fascism.

    So, we're on the right after all, and Obama is center-right or righty-right.
    3575) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1337160)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Soooo not reading any what was written here... Could we consider corporations socialist... follow me for a second. By rule a Socialist organisation uses centralized sites to distribute the services. Corporations use centralized places called warehouses to store their goods in centralized locations to make it easier to distribute goods and services.


    No, communist, the totalitarian state Marx believed would be necessary before true socialism, Unbelievable that the Free Dictionary reversed this. Thank goodness for my education at a private college.
    3576) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1337157)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GOD/Religion has been A Net Benefit To HumanKind/HumanUnKind since GOD/Religion has First Appeared-by A Huge Margin over The Destruction In The Name Of. And Will Continue So For Many Epochs and Eons.

    I am Glad For GOD/Religion. I am Not Glad For Atheism. Atheism Is A Scourge which Rears Its Ugly Head Often and is A Net Detriment To HumanKind/UnKind.

    I Say This as An Atheist. An Atheist Glad For My GOD/Religion Believing Broheims.

    IGNORE Say: Thank You Believers. I Do Not IGNORE You. I Applaud You. Net BennieWise Dat Is.


    Told ya.
    Now he knows who P Diddy is.
    Yeehaw, babee boo, all about da Benjamins, yo?
    3577) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1337135)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe some people are dangerously close to baiting ID.
    While their status does not preclude their also posting, still, I think the actions tread a thin line at the moment.
    What do you hope he will learn, or that you can learn from him, if anything? If nothing, then it becomes far harder to still to say he is not curently being baited.
    He seems to believe S@H, or UC Berkeley, have no rights to set up rules for the use of the S@H fora. To believe that he has not broken any rules.
    But, in the meantime, the rules are there and will be enforced.
    I believe he will be his usual self and follow his usual pattern soon enough, with no extra bait needed.

    And we will continue to wonder exactly what he is saying.

    Has he come here for a give-and-take in discussion? If so, let us all give and take. If not, then seek elsewhere. It is not difficult to find those who do not see eye-to-eye with you yet can *discuss* things (and in an understandable fashion).
    3578) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1337070)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh dear, another little glooper - morality and ethics are different words for the same thing. Which one is used is very much a cultural choice, morality being the preferred word in "non-academic" circles, while ethics is the preferred word in academic circles.


    He has already stated, about a month ago, how he differs with you (or others) on the usage of these two words.
    Do you hope to learn something from him or he from you? If not, you are responding ... why?
    3579) Message boards : Politics : so·cial·ism (Message 1337067)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe some people are dangerously close to baiting ID.
    While their status does not preclude their also posting, still, I think the actions tread a thin line at the moment.
    What do you hope he will learn, or that you can learn from him, if anything? If nothing, then it becomes far harder to still to say he is not curently being baited.
    He seems to believe S@H, or UC Berkeley, have no rights to set up rules for the use of the S@H fora. To believe that he has not broken any rules.
    But, in the meantime, the rules are there and will be enforced.
    I believe he will be his usual self and follow his usual pattern soon enough, with no extra bait needed.
    3580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Battlestar Galactica Prequel "Blood & Chrome" (Message 1336965)
    Posted 11 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since there is no Sci Fi board I figured this is the best place to put this post. I just watched this program on the SyFy channel and was generally impressed. I hope they are planning to create a series from this movie if it was well received. Without revealing the plot it tells the story of the first combat mission of Bill Adama's military career. The actor playing the young Adama reminds me in some ways of Keanu Reeves. As with the Battlestar Galactica series there is some partial nudity and suggested sex. Most of the women are pretty hot babes. There are even some of the actors from the series. I guess they are playing the parents of the characters from BSG.

    If you were a follower of BSG and didn't watch Blood & Chrome it will probably reair this week and I recommend seeing it.

    It would be interesting, I liked BSG, except for the ending where they set everyone on the path of repeating what had gone on before. I hear that Angela is a big BSG fan, as am I.


    I guess you missed that theme is well-known/used throughout myths around the world, and particularly missed Lee (Apollo) Adama's response to the "3" towards the end of the mid-season cliff-hanger in the last season? "But it doesn't have to happen again." ?

    Don't count on "Blood and Chrome" being made into a series.
    SyFy was stupid enough to cancel Caprica.
    Everything I've read since it was indicated B&C would be a web series indicates that's it, no series. Frankly, I'm shocked they aired it on TV.
    I watched it. It was, at the least, ok, but I was multi-tasking, so that's all I can say.
    ABC's cancellation of the original BSG was a bad move because, despite 1/3-2/3 of the cheesiness, the remainder was good, with a very very interesting story to tell. Far better than the rammed together junk George Lucas has in Star Wars.
    The fact that the re-imagined series was done indicates that people realized the gem of the story core that had been, and could be again, told.
    SyFy's cancellation of Caprica ... with it's good story ... even if there were any missteps ... and their airing of WRESTLING ... ?
    Why do you think B&C was made/aired?
    MONEY, and to see if they could pull any of us that left them 2 years ago back. Not gonna happen. That was the only time I've watched that trash network in 2 years. Gimme DVDs or re-runs of The Big Bang Theory or even Ancient Aliens, but don't give me SyFy's crap.
    3581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : arghhhhhhhhhhh. (Message 1336063)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should write lyrics with Rick Dion.
    3582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1336058)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then again, why am I drinking a milkshake when its 20°f outside. Ah well.


    I do that here, but I would not do it if I was back in my home state (your state). Winters just aren't the same here, even though nearly a mile high.
    3583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1336037)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you go to make a milkshake, and realize the ice cream you bought mistakenly is LOW FAT.

    Oh the HORROR!


    Lactose.
    3584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : arghhhhhhhhhhh. (Message 1336034)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's some blues for ya, Mark. Track 4 rocks!
    3585) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1335997)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is free speech here? It's called--banished!
    Why is it called banished? Because socialist don't understand free speech.
    Why don't they understand free speech? They are sheeple.
    3586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335961)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, I've been working a lot again. Good stuff. Unfortunately now I don't know if I've missed him or not?


    Thought you were just loafing around sitting under a tree, puffing on your pipe?


    Ahh, now that's what I call waiting ;)


    Picturing Julie puffing on a pipe. Corncob pipe.
    3587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335960)
    Posted 9 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I take a nap while I wait?


    I don't think it would hurt/
    3588) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1335875)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, by the way...

    All the latest shootings of the mass type, movie house, and schools, were done by people who came from VERY liberal families.

    Just sayin...


    Yeah, his mama liberally took him out to the gun range quite often, and then liberally lay down to let him shoot her.

    Not just saying, except for the lay/lie down thingy.
    3589) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1335850)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe until they are of age, they should be taught the religion of their parent's choice. That is a parent's right, I think.

    My position is that yes, parents have the right to 'force' their religion upon their children


    R. Dawkins has made it Quite Clear, doing The Above Quoted is ABUSE. And IGNORE Agrees with R. D.

    Christians have Stood Up For GOD for Millenia with BLOOD DRIPPING from Sword, Lance, Dagger, Club, Arrow, Fist, etc etc etc.

    IGNORE Say: The Devil Made Me Do It.


    And now R.D. IS Standing Up, with Mouth Frothing ... . Rue the day when he (or his ilk) also picks up a weapon. It will happen.
    3590) Message boards : Politics : When are Christians going to start standing up for God......... (Message 1335808)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ?



    ?
    3591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1335807)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "They say the used to be dinosaurs, but I don't believe in that meowvolution!"
    3592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335805)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, I've been working a lot again. Good stuff. Unfortunately now I don't know if I've missed him or not?


    Thought you were just loafing around sitting under a tree, puffing on your pipe?
    3593) Message boards : Number crunching : Opencl Computation Error (Message 1335673)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What about being marked "Invalid" or "Validation Inconclusive"?
    I've had 1 error out, 1 marked as valid, and am waiting on the final results of 3 that are marked inconclusive.

    Your host's AP Wu's are overflowing with 'repetitive pulses: 30' while your wingmen aren't.

    Claggy


    OK, so, now that I've taken this here to number crunching (instead of news) and in a pre-existing thread that I think is an appropriate place ... what do I do? I seem to have an acceptable version of CCC and driver for the GPU. Could this still be the problem? If not, what other troubleshooting can I do?


    Nothing to do, it is all part of normal processing. People get these all of the time,just hang in there.


    Hoping that's all it is.
    3594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335659)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tell me again who/what we are waiting for?


    Godot!
    3595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335658)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These things have a life of their own. :)

    What? We have created life? Could we then create Godot so we wouldn't have to wait for him anymore?

    This is possible, but don't let ID know, ok?

    Why not?


    He doesn't want abiogenesis to be true.
    3596) Message boards : Number crunching : Opencl Computation Error (Message 1335654)
    Posted 8 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What about being marked "Invalid" or "Validation Inconclusive"?
    I've had 1 error out, 1 marked as valid, and am waiting on the final results of 3 that are marked inconclusive.

    Your host's AP Wu's are overflowing with 'repetitive pulses: 30' while your wingmen aren't.

    Claggy


    OK, so, now that I've taken this here to number crunching (instead of news) and in a pre-existing thread that I think is an appropriate place ... what do I do? I seem to have an acceptable version of CCC and driver for the GPU. Could this still be the problem? If not, what other troubleshooting can I do?
    3597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335626)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These things have a life of their own. :)

    What? We have created life? Could we then create Godot so we wouldn't have to wait for him anymore?

    This is possible, but don't let ID know, ok?
    3598) Message boards : Number crunching : Opencl Computation Error (Message 1335625)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What about being marked "Invalid" or "Validation Inconclusive"?
    I've had 1 error out, 1 marked as valid, and am waiting on the final results of 3 that are marked inconclusive.
    3599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1335578)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These things have a life of their own. :)
    3600) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1335466)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Saying there is more red is disingenuous at best considering the low population in rural areas.

    How many districts are red, how many are blue?

    And there in lies the only reason Republicans hold any seats... Add a pinch of strategic re-districting and voila!



    How many PEOPLE are red, how many are blue?

    ;-)


    Thanks Skil, I haven't had the time to answer Dull, who responded to my statement about the populous with something referring to land area.

    Republicans rejoice! You have far more square footage than any other political affiliation. We need trees and farms, so thank you.

    (I'll quietly await a clever "roses are red" political poem from Mr Ignore)


    Anyway, I'm pretty sure gerrymandering is not just a red or blue thing.
    3601) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1335465)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ignore Say:
    Roses red
    liberalism dead.
    You feelin blue
    my boo?
    Boo hoo hoo!

    Vote Meh.
    Canuck, eh?
    Feel red love,
    enough,
    can't get enough.
    3602) Message boards : Number crunching : Opencl Computation Error (Message 1335316)
    Posted 7 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump.
    3603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1335073)
    Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Ever wonder how Robin Williams ('RV') and Steve Carrell ('Evan Almighty') would be together in a movie?!? Wonder no more! Coming this May, 'Evan's RV Ark'!!!"
    3604) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1335028)
    Posted 6 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly, 80s kids are the target of some commercials these last few years; i.e., ones that were teens then. Perhaps even more so the headbangers? Well, Madison Avenue, you met your match. I may be a headbanger, but I'm pretty darn smart and not falling for your attempts to drive me over my personal fiscal cliff.
    3605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1334933)
    Posted 5 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3. soft^spirit, with "oh my GAWD Dr. Eric that is a silly costume!!!" and a nice connection (I assume) to our S@H scientist.
    2. KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade!, with "[Wonder Woman] Ok, I'm going to step away and put you all in the Lasso of Truth!
    Then I'll find out who's groping me!"
    (It was probably Captain Sweatpants, or more likely Wallowitz.)

    The winner is ... due to NO connection to S@H and furthest from a Big Bang Theory reference ...

    1. John McLeod VII, with "It's dragon con. Why is no one dressed as a dragon?"

    PM sent!
    3606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1334806)
    Posted 5 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Talking in my sleep, check
    Walking in my sleep, check
    Posting in my sleep, hmmm...

    I sometimes fall asleep while posting, especially late on a work night. Keyboards do NOT make good pillows. Not good for dreaming, either....


    I sometimes fall asleep while reading posts in the Politics forum.
    It's not the point of view, it's the presentation.
    3607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1334800)
    Posted 5 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, we've got 10-11 unique respondents. I shall mull over the responses so far and check what's also posted by morning, my time, so look for my winner announcement in 9-12 hours! :)
    3608) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1334751)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We NEED a Separate Thread to deal with Mental Illness...Some of these Posts have Nothing to do with Danger from Firearms...Just My Opinion.

    A firearm is an inanimate object. It only becomes dangerous when held in the hand. Hands generally are attached to human minds. It is the same subject.


    Agreed on all points.
    It was, in fact, the meaning/point behind IDs titling of the thread.
    3609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1334683)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First 10, or 24 hours, or what?
    3610) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1334682)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dr. West said it would Be Worse if Romney became Prez?

    Well, I know I wouldn't have learned a bunch of new cuss words in Spanish if he was Prez. What a blue streak as the workers opened their first paychecks of the year and saw the 'bama SS tax hike.


    Less Spanish speaking employees in 1990/1?
    3611) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1334514)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    None of the 4 of us who have posted here have said anything doubting whether the story is genuine.
    It is something else that I questioned.

    Yes, and I remember a fool posting that here too.

    I would expect more people to get shot at a range than any other location. Mind you most of the time it is unintentional.

    In any case the alleged shooter is an alleged mental case. Another failure of feel good must re-integrate policy.

    I don't see why you are so scathing of policies that are designed to recognise someone's human rights, even if they are mentally ill. Are the options for you really between locking up sick people, or letting them run riot with guns? how about simply making sure that they can't get hold of guns.


    Es, I know you're responding to Gary, but I advocate in-patient programs for those whose illness is severe enough. In the 70s, there'd be a bit of the merry-go-round I mentioned in an earlier post, but it became worse in the 80s. And I think it had to little to nothing to do with "feel good", "reintegration" policies. Even in the 90s, some people, even do-gooder/feel-gooders knew what needed to be done when someone was a "danger to self, others or property".

    Yes, and I remember a fool posting that here too.


    Gary, who said that?
    Has Worm altered his usage of the slang term "brainiac"?
    3612) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1334492)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    None of the 4 of us who have posted here have said anything doubting whether the story is genuine.
    It is something else that I questioned.
    3613) Message boards : Number crunching : Opencl Computation Error (Message 1334489)
    Posted 4 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Make sure libfftw3f-3.dll is in your project directory,

    Claggy


    I believe this may be the reason for the problem I described in this thread (in the News area.
    I could see a .dll file downloading at the same time as a AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100) WU. As far as I can tell, download of the WU finished before the download of the .dll file.
    I have since completed other AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100) WUs. I'm waiting to see what kind of credit I get, but I have yet to see an Error message except for the very first AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100) WU.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6838776&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=12
    3614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1334436)
    Posted 3 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I remember dreams from childhood, but very few current dreams.
    3615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1334435)
    Posted 3 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's OK, Rob, work comes first and have a good rest! PM on its way to SSCP.


    3616) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1334280)
    Posted 3 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One Of Our Noted Brainiacs stated there are No Attacks At A Gun Range, because that is Where The Guns Are.


    Really?
    Who said that?
    Coincidence that I saw a post like that in a "meme" a few hours ago on a social media site?
    3617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1334183)
    Posted 3 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Talking in my sleep, check
    Walking in my sleep, check
    Posting in my sleep, hmmm...

    Better than posting in some other conditions, I suppose.

    Hehehe.


    We have a dead poster.
    Said dead poster voted Romney last November. Vote early, vote often.
    3618) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1334181)
    Posted 3 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can read 99.44% of it.
    And increasingly 70s slang (think "Different Strokes", "Good Times" and "The Jeffersons") is used.
    You should really worry when he learns who Dre & Snoop are.
    Let alone Jay-Z.
    3619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333894)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're sleeping wrong.
    I am able to post in my sleep.
    My fellow Americans, who are sleeping, you are not posting. Hence, you are sleeping wrong. :)
    3620) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333891)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you have a problem it would be much better to try to solve it over in the number crunching forum.


    Suggestions (link?) to a current thread dealing with such issues? Would rather put it in the "right place" than start a new thread.

    The right place is number crunching, just start a new thread.


    I get the first.
    I don't like starting new threads if one already exists that might already be dealing with the same/similar issue(s).
    3621) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333890)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you have a problem it would be much better to try to solve it over in the number crunching forum.


    Suggestions (link?) to a current thread dealing with such issues? Would rather put it in the "right place" than start a new thread.

    The problem is you don't follow the links.

    How else you can explain your "Searched high and low for an older version of CCC. Found one."
    after the 2 posts by Claggy with 3 proper links and explanations what to do?


    Your response is NOT helpful.

    I made it quite clear I was at work. That means this had low priority. Preparing for teaching a class or grading for it obviously MUST carry higher priority.

    I followed TWO links provided by Claggy.
    One was to AMDs spot for download of DRIVERS.
    Hence, the blue screen of death I mentioned.
    I disabled the GPU so that would stop and so other WUs could be crunched in the meantime, and until I could get another chance to try to sort things out.
    Rather than using a Fix/Uninstall feature Claggy mentioned, I used "Roll back driver" when I followed CONTROL/SYSTEM/HARDWARE (as mentioned by another poster, and as I stated before).
    The second link I followed was to the "HAL6000" cheat sheet. From that, I figured that I needed a CCC version that matched the driver version. I uninstalled the CCC I had, and downloaded and installed the earlier version that matched the driver.
    Upon doing that, and re-enabling the GPU, then re-booting BAM, BAM indicated GPU computing was enabled and downloaded 1 WU for it to work on, among other non-GPU associated WUs.

    I've been with S@H since '99, and BOINCing since '05. I've followed along with a number of tweaks, and usually get it right on the first attempt. If not, the second or third. Sometimes, the issue isn't even anything any BOINCer has ever encountered, yet I get it straightened out. But, I ask.

    So, thank you so much for your cordial and informative (and WRONG) post (I followed TWO ... count 'em, TWO) of the links.
    Pardon me if I am not going to stay around at the office for a few more hours to get it straightened out on day one, and pardon me for having a job that takes priority over tweaking BOINC to do more.
    3622) Message boards : Politics : Opinion on name changes... (Message 1333803)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Changeing a screen name is ok in its own right, The complaint was that some were changeing to many times. Yes you can figure out who is who by what they post and history or just a sig.

    My gripe is when they change to a banished ID #. Now regular posters cant see hidden posts, us mods can and it gets confusing. When you see posts that are up to date and following a theme. How can they still be posting? Untill you figure out that this person really isnt banned.


    Hint: they're in blue and clickable, not black.
    And, as I said before, such screen name changes are a public comment on moderation.
    3623) Message boards : Politics : Opinion on name changes... (Message 1333801)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    However, it should be pointed out that ID has never changed his screen name, except, IIRC, to correct a spelling error.
    3624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333799)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brothers and sisters.
    We're one.
    But not the same.
    We get to carry each other ...
    carry each other.
    One ... !
    3625) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333798)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you have a problem it would be much better to try to solve it over in the number crunching forum.


    Suggestions (link?) to a current thread dealing with such issues? Would rather put it in the "right place" than start a new thread.
    3626) Message boards : Politics : Opinion on name changes... (Message 1333797)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My screen name change uses self-deprecating humor.
    Quite different from the others.
    My screen name change points to the ridiculousness of the other recent changes.
    3627) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333765)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clarification, for two words I left out:

    Is there (a way) of checking the REASON for the error? This WU.
    3628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333762)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, Godot's sister is a former lover of mine. ;)

    TMI?
    3629) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1333726)
    Posted 2 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RIP, Barney B.
    3630) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333670)
    Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A whole pile of your results have ended in errors.
    If you visit the "number crunching" message board you will see a pinned topic which deals with this known problem.
    (I suffered the same with my new cruncher, and the solutions offered work, but you may have to try them one at a time to see which works best for you)


    I suspect you were responding to Vito, but ... .

    I only had 1 WU for opencl, and it errored out. Another has downloaded. I have not checked its status yet.

    Is there of checking the REASON for the error? This WU.
    3631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333627)
    Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, Godot's sister is a former lover of mine. ;)
    3632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333415)
    Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godot has a sister?

    I hear she's kind of cute.
    3633) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1333414)
    Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The new way to get rich is to provide more and better mental health care.
    There's great demand for it at the moment.
    3634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333373)
    Posted 1 Feb 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps Godot doesn't like brother-in-law jokes?
    3635) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333323)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Searched high and low for an older version of CCC. Found one. Installed. BAM now indicates GPU computing enabled. Now to see if it'll actually download such WUs and process correctly.
    3636) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333284)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did a "roll back driver" while in control panel/system/hardware/... .
    It is now at 8.821.0.000.
    No more blue screens, but BAM does not indicate GPU computing is enabled.
    Under Tools/Computing Preferences, use of GPU was already checked (by default?).
    3637) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1333230)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Going back to CCC Version 12.1 did NOT change the DRIVER. The driver is still 9.0.100.2000.
    3638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1333068)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "An emergency 174 km ahead? I wonder how they could they could know that? Is it a state of perpetual emergency? Well, best to exit this highway before I go another 174 km on it, right?"
    3639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333065)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Soon, the number of posts here shall surpass those in the original thread. Think that might do a better job of attracting Godot?
    3640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1333033)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL, Donald!
    3641) Message boards : Politics : MS Office 2013 (Message 1333032)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Office 2000 will do me...

    But that is over 14 years ago! Time and documents and computers have moved on since then. Especially so for "odf" becoming established as the standard document format.

    And for odf, LibreOffice is a long way ahead of Microsoft Office.


    But why are we discussing this here in "Number Crunching" when similar such threads have been pushed over to and relegated to "Politics"?

    Happy crunchin',
    Martin


    How is the topic political (beyond, I like MS or I don't).
    This is more a Cafe topic. Not fun, but techy.
    3642) Message boards : Politics : MS Office 2013 (Message 1333031)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm sticking with Office 2000 or sometimes Open Office.

    Wish OpenOffice and Equation Editor were more friendly.
    Current version of Equation Editor is closer to LaTeX than before, in looks.
    3643) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1333014)
    Posted 31 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, ya see, when someone is an inpatient, the caregiver working with them on their treatment sets up these goals. Goals to achieve before moving from 3rd to 2nd floor, 2nd to 1st, 1st to outpatient, outpatient to fully out in society without a net.
    Then, in the late 80s, the goals were made ridiculously easy to achieve, the patients were told what goals they had to achieve, etc. ... . Hey, when you see that guy about 20 years old, brown hair, don't assume he's the son you haven't seen a few weeks and run up to him and start talking to him.
    Why did they make the goals easy to achieve and known to the patients? It's cheaper. In the short run.
    3644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332966)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I iz voting for the in between ;-)

    Can I do that?


    Yes, until such time as Godot arrives, because he may bring a few ten thousand more commandments.
    3645) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1332965)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, between classes, or just after the last class of the afternoon, I will have to check what driver it gave me. I think I might find this fairly easily, but, just in case, can you or someone else indicate where to look for what driver it installed?

    Usually, Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager->Display Adapters->[Your Card (double- or right-click->Properties)]->Driver.

    To follow my last post, and to respond to this, specifically, Driver 9.0.100.2000. It seems the numbers referred to in the post I responded to an hour ago refer to the version of Catalyst/CCC? And I'm assuming that the CCC version and the driver I get might be tied together ... ?
    3646) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1332943)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Updated AMD driver on one of my newer office computers so I could get it working on WUs the GPU could help with.
    Upon reboot of system and BOINC, I got the blue screen of death.
    A file by the name of, approximately, atiok3x2.dll was trying to write to rom, and it was stopped.
    Before I complain to IT, any thoughts from the BOINC side?
    (Yes, the provost knows I run the program. There will be no NEZ type stuff here.)


    All AMD Catalyst starting from 12.10 are broken in term of usage with SETI OpenCL apps (at least with OpenCL MB app). And 13.2 beta 3 known to be unable to compile CL files for both apps at all.
    So, better to stay with Cat 12.1 or 12.8.


    OK, my action was prompted by a notice in BOINC manager, so I went directly to the AMD website and used their auto-detect to see what system I have and let it auto-decide what driver I needed.
    So, between classes, or just after the last class of the afternoon, I will have to check what driver it gave me. I think I might find this fairly easily, but, just in case, can you or someone else indicate where to look for what driver it installed?


    Fire up Catalyst Control Centre from the Task Bar, then go to Information, then Software, it should then give you a Catalyst version.

    If you want to revert to an earlier driver, Uninstall the Catalyst driver, reboot, then Use the AMD Catalyst Uninstall utility (only for Windows 7 at the moment), reboot, then install the older driver,
    (The Catalyst driver Installer/uninstaller doesn't remove all the files from System32 and SysWOW64 directories, and earlier driver Installers won't overwrite later APP runtimes)

    Claggy


    Looks like they gave Catalyst Version 13.1.
    I'll have to worry about this in an hour.
    Next question is where to get the old driver (like 12.1, 12.8). Is that easy to locate on the AMD website?
    3647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332896)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But are we still having fun?

    As much as ever.

    I just don't know if we're doing it right.


    Right?
    3648) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1332894)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What?

    Are we allowed to use that here for this particular kind?
    3649) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1332893)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Updated AMD driver on one of my newer office computers so I could get it working on WUs the GPU could help with.
    Upon reboot of system and BOINC, I got the blue screen of death.
    A file by the name of, approximately, atiok3x2.dll was trying to write to rom, and it was stopped.
    Before I complain to IT, any thoughts from the BOINC side?
    (Yes, the provost knows I run the program. There will be no NEZ type stuff here.)


    All AMD Catalyst starting from 12.10 are broken in term of usage with SETI OpenCL apps (at least with OpenCL MB app). And 13.2 beta 3 known to be unable to compile CL files for both apps at all.
    So, better to stay with Cat 12.1 or 12.8.


    OK, my action was prompted by a notice in BOINC manager, so I went directly to the AMD website and used their auto-detect to see what system I have and let it auto-decide what driver I needed.
    So, between classes, or just after the last class of the afternoon, I will have to check what driver it gave me. I think I might find this fairly easily, but, just in case, can you or someone else indicate where to look for what driver it installed?
    3650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi Gang! (Message 1332853)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't believe you people are still here. It will take me a few weeks to determine whether or not this place is smarter or dumber than when I left it.


    Welcome back, Robert.

    If you have to ask that question then your return may well lower the collective IQ. :P

    Now if only Rush would return . . . :)


    I have his e-mail addy. Our conversations are very cordial, even when we do not see eye to eye.
    3651) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1332851)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Updated AMD driver on one of my newer office computers so I could get it working on WUs the GPU could help with.
    Upon reboot of system and BOINC, I got the blue screen of death.
    A file by the name of, approximately, atiok3x2.dll was trying to write to rom, and it was stopped.
    Before I complain to IT, any thoughts from the BOINC side?
    (Yes, the provost knows I run the program. There will be no NEZ type stuff here.)
    3652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332630)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally, I think Godot is the remaining model Cylon.
    3653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332620)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I met that rabbit once. I think. I can't remember anymore.

    I met the blue rabbit. AND the red rabbit, too.

    Smoking with the cheshire cat were you? I only saw the white rabbit.


    Never partook, though I may have inadvertantly received a contact ...., but the more likely explanationis I stumbled across Morpheus while awaiting Godot.
    3654) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1332611)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's getting real tough to keep track of Dull, Sarge, and Guy...

    Time to go numeric?


    But if we must, well, I am pretty sure I joined first and also posted earlier. Hence, 0 would be appropriate.
    I think Dull was next. He can be "Number 1".
    Thus, guy is "Number 2."
    ("I was wrong. Turns out there is no law of diminishing returns when it comes to jokes about space poop.")
    3655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332608)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I met that rabbit once. I think. I can't remember anymore.

    I met the blue rabbit. AND the red rabbit, too.
    3656) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1332606)
    Posted 30 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I trust, therefore, that I have indeed demonstrated, through my own screen name changes, how annoying and ridiculous (pointing to lack of credibility) that the name changes of two others have been?

    If not, and the mods do not address avatars and sigs as well, my next ID shall be "banished ID: ...", but it'll be somebody else's ID. Someone not even banished.
    3657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332588)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Waiting for Godot is a play that's about the passing of time. It asks all the big philosophical questions, about life and death and the uncertain purpose of what goes on in between.

    Well, I'm not waiting any longer, at this time of day my certain purpose in life is going down the pub for a lunch time beer :-)

    We'll let you know if he came around when you get back.

    Conspiratorial whisper to JMVII-yeah, that's our story, and we're sticking to it.

    Well, he didn't show up, did he.

    This is what we shall tell Chris.
    3658) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1332587)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ..and Sarge?...well he's just plain crazy.

    3659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332525)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Waiting for Godot is a play that's about the passing of time. It asks all the big philosophical questions, about life and death and the uncertain purpose of what goes on in between.

    Well, I'm not waiting any longer, at this time of day my certain purpose in life is going down the pub for a lunch time beer :-)

    We'll let you know if he came around when you get back.

    Conspiratorial whisper to JMVII-yeah, that's our story, and we're sticking to it.
    3660) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1332413)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi Gang! (Message 1332395)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332386)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *sigh* a waste of good energy...

    Perhaps we should become capitalist/producers while we await Godot?
    3663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi Gang! (Message 1332385)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't believe you people are still here. It will take me a few weeks to determine whether or not this place is smarter or dumber than when I left it.

    Dude! Judge not, lest ye be judged...


    +1 to Angela


    Indeed, and to Blurf.
    3664) Message boards : Politics : Why are we still having to debate about abortion? (Message 1332383)
    Posted 29 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The tax deduction for a dependent occurs in the year of birth not the year of conception.

    Anyone see a contradiction? :)
    3665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332306)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just using it as an excuse to hang out and party! (Btw you are blocking the punch)


    Well, of course I am.
    Why do you want to punch me, anyway?
    3666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332305)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe we shouldn't wait on him?

    From what I've learned in school (okay, that's been some time) you can't wait on someone who isn't there, you'll have to wait for him to arrive first. ;-)

    Gruß,
    Besserwisser


    I only typed it that way because Godot has me so frustrated, and to check Deutsch grammatical rules vs. Anglo rules. :)
    3667) Message boards : Politics : My friends, this is QUITE clear........ (Message 1332303)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our businesses are not hurting because domestic demand is creating profits.


    Woo hoo, profits! Hey, let's count our potatoes, Scary! Er, I mean, count TO potato.
    3668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332278)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought this was floor 7 1/2?

    I think I could climb to 9 3/4, but no way will my knees make 42.

    Like I said. The stairs are perfectly functional. Now you have to work on your knees.

    Actually, I recently did 4 flights in a parking garage and then had to walk up the ramp to my car. It took me at least 5 minutes to return to normal breathing.

    And it was all for nothing. Godot never showed up.


    Never repeat this, but I am beginning to think this Godot fellow may not be that reliable a chap.



    He'll even be late to his own funeral!


    Ya got that right!
    I'm losing faith in this chap.
    Maybe we shouldn't wait on him?
    3669) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1332243)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hear that certain southern Sheriffs will get to decide what is constitutional, instead of the Supreme Court.

    Sure sounds rational to me, with me IQ of 62.
    3670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332160)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought this was floor 7 1/2?

    I think I could climb to 9 3/4, but no way will my knees make 42.

    Like I said. The stairs are perfectly functional. Now you have to work on your knees.

    Actually, I recently did 4 flights in a parking garage and then had to walk up the ramp to my car. It took me at least 5 minutes to return to normal breathing.

    And it was all for nothing. Godot never showed up.


    Never repeat this, but I am beginning to think this Godot fellow may not be that reliable a chap.
    3671) Message boards : Politics : DisLike Anyone? (Message 1332144)
    Posted 28 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah. Aint sayin who though.


    :(

    Thought we were friends.
    3672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332109)
    Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do we know what Godot thinks of elevators, escalators and stairs?
    3673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1332010)
    Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know if Godot would ride and elevator... This might be the wrong place to wait.


    Shouldn't we leave that up to Godot? I mean, he really does want to meet with us, right?
    P.S.-Penny tells me the elevator is broken,


    It doesn't need to go anywhere, it's been a great place to relax all day.

    The stairs work as well.



    Depends on which floor we have to be...


    3. Always, it is 3.
    I think?
    3674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331816)
    Posted 27 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know if Godot would ride and elevator... This might be the wrong place to wait.


    Shouldn't we leave that up to Godot? I mean, he really does want to meet with us, right?
    P.S.-Penny tells me the elevator is broken,
    3675) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1331484)
    Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Over a million people attended Obama's inauguration! And only 14 people missed work!

    It was a holiday.

    LOL!

    Thanks for pointing that out. I was sariously habin trouble figgerin that out.

    Question is, did the OP know it.


    Perhaps it was a doubleplus unoffday?
    3676) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1331415)
    Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Over a million people attended Obama's inauguration! And only 14 people missed work!

    It was a holiday.

    LOL!

    Thanks for pointing that out. I was sariously habin trouble figgerin that out.
    3677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331367)
    Posted 26 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should have made the title more obvious. Like "Waiting for Godot, act 4"

    People just don't like waiting in here. Maybe it's the horrible elevator music.


    "La Isla Bonita"?
    3678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331211)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All but 3 posters may or may not be having fun wrong, but clearly, they are posting in other threads besides this one.
    3679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331147)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're all doing it wrong

    I am not.

    Now you're getting existential! (Or not.)
    3680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331121)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Stand still laddy!"


    Perhaps Godot would only recognize me if I keep moving, causing quantum perturbations?

    Aren't you a bit large to cause quantum perturbations?


    Depends.
    Besides, the atoms that i am composed of are not.
    3681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331022)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Stand still laddy!"


    Perhaps Godot would only recognize me if I keep moving, causing quantum perturbations?
    3682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Having Fun Wrong (a.k.a., "WFG: Mach II") (Message 1331001)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"
    Knock, knock, knock.
    "All my friends?"

    "I had to leave. They were having fun wrong."

    In this 2nd version of "Waiting for Godot", there are no rules beyond the usual S@H general Cafe rules.
    So, take a seat. Or whatever.
    Just wait for Godot patiently.
    Or impatiently.
    Examine the gestalt of the existential emptiness.
    Or fullness.

    Have fun.

    (Or hang "on in quiet desperation." I've heard "it's the English way.")
    3683) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1331000)
    Posted 25 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    However, Not As CEOs, Cabinet Postings, And Other High Power, High Visibilty Positions.

    Such as Sens. Johns Kerry & McCain!
    3684) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1330785)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Patriot Act did more to take away American "freedom" than gun control ever would.

    + Infinity

    The terrorists win when you let them.


    Ditto.
    3685) Message boards : Politics : Why are we still having to debate about abortion? (Message 1330647)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Person with The Clump Of Cells in them, which are Dividing and Can Become A Human, has The Only Say in The Final Destination of Said Cells.


    Dare I respond?
    I think Worm/4th Angel/Demonella is also disagreeing with I.D.
    Does this now make him a socialist sherpson?
    I don't think so.
    3686) Message boards : Politics : Why are we still having to debate about abortion? (Message 1330631)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This isn't a clump of cells like the wart on the end of your nose.

    A wart on the end of your nose has human DNA. So by your rules cutting it off is murder.


    You deflect from point.

    I simply point our your logical fallacy.

    Something either is or is not human life. You came up with the hypothesis to determine human life and we get to tell you where your hypothesis fails, and in this case rather spectacularly. Come up with a better hypothesis.



    +1
    3687) Message boards : Politics : Why are we still having to debate about abortion? (Message 1330630)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, now a libertarian is a socialist?
    How very interesting.
    As I mentioned earlier, Rush L. claimed it was the liberals that shift the meanings of words.
    So, either Gary is a socialist, or I.D. calls anyone that disagrees with him (on at least 1 thing) a socialist.
    I wonder how which is true?
    And how the field of allies shrinks?
    3688) Message boards : Politics : International Law (Message 1330615)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If an incident happened on US soil outside of a foreign embassy and the person doesn't have diplomatic privileges, American law should be used.

    American or US Law still can be used if the person has diplomatic privileges as by treaty US law recognizes such privileges, just as it does the ICJ by treaty. Of course US law applies to US citizens everywhere.


    You just really don't have any idea what you are talking about. Just make it up as you go along do ya?


    I suspect libertarian Gary knows precisely what he is talking about.
    3689) Message boards : Politics : International Law (Message 1330542)
    Posted 24 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, of course, in our dealing with other countries, and their people, our US Constitution should be the final word on the LAW. Right, it's obvious?
    3690) Message boards : Politics : DEAD. Murder? usa internet LAW REFORM REQUIRED! (Message 1330457)
    Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I for one am getting sick of being called a criminal.

    Clearly, you are not reading the posts in full.

    Well then please enlighten me.

    I think he is making an over the top comment that it is not possible to stay within the TOS. Of course that is false, one can stay within the TOS. You simply have to realize that IP has rights and respect that. Some people do not and can't believe that all others don't think as they do. Perhaps they have a collectivist mind set and believe everything belongs to everyone.


    I'm not sure who you are referring to with "he" and "they". If, perhaps, you are suggesting, that I am in complete agreement with Martin, I haven't said that. I've just been reading. I think that post and this post make just 2 posts by me in this thread.
    All I said is this: James seemed to be saying that his interpretation of Martin's comment "all US citizens could be called criminals" is that he thinks/thought Martin is saying we're all responsible for Aaron's death. Martin did not appear to be any such thing at all. Instead, more along the lines of your opening to your post: Martin was saying all US citizens with an internet connection run the risk of doing something considered illegal and that, if caught, Martin believes that the punishment does not fit the crime.
    (Actually, Martin seems to have made two possible points: is it a crime at all vs. it's a crime, but does the punishment fit? Which do you stand by, Martin?)
    3691) Message boards : Politics : DEAD. Murder? usa internet LAW REFORM REQUIRED! (Message 1330380)
    Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I for one am getting sick of being called a criminal.

    Clearly, you are not reading the posts in full.
    3692) Message boards : Politics : Final arbitrator of law and ignorance of it. (Message 1330308)
    Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Years ago (early 90s), Rush Limbaugh liked to say "Words mean something" and would frequently claim that liberals like to shift the meanings of things.

    http://onphilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/intellectual-cowardice/

    To say that someone is demonstrating intellectual cowardice is to say that they are simultaneously putting forward a claim as a claim and refusing to stand by it. For example, a scientist could demonstrate intellectual cowardice by presenting an empirical generalization on the basis of data but refusing to stand by that generalization as a good one. Intellectual cowardice is motivated by a fear of being shown to be wrong, hence its name, but at the same time desiring to recognized for intellectual accomplishments. And this leads to the somewhat contradictory practice of putting forwards claims in one context, but at the same time adopting the position that the claim is not necessarily worth standing by. This allows them to accept any compliments that come their way as a result of the quality of their claim, but at the same time dismiss any criticism of it as reflecting badly on them, because they refuse to stand by it.


    We all know yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, when there is no such fire, does not fall under "free speech".

    Similarly, S@H has its rules. You're allowed to say a lot. But:


    Posts must be 'kid friendly': they may not contain content that is obscene, hate-related, sexually explicit or suggestive.
    No commercial advertisements.
    No links to web sites involving sexual content, gambling, or intolerance of others.
    No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people, or to hijack a thread.
    No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.
    No abusive comments involving race, religion, nationality, gender, class or sexuality.
    Do not post pictures of graphic violence or links to images or videos containing graphic violence.
    Do not posts comments related to specific moderator actions. The moderators may be contacted at seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu
    Your posts may be deleted if it contains material from another post which has been deleted. You should avoid including material from a post you expect will be deleted.
    Team recruiting is only allowed in the Team Recruitment Forum
    Additional information on moderation policy can be found here.


    Breaking any of these rules leaves us subject to a post or thread being hidden, and, if severe enough, banishment. It is like yelling "fire". Many of us have learned that the hard way. Some, a very very hard way. We have the right to post elsewhere, in the way we like, if the rules are different in those other places. And there are plenty of other places to do so. When here, we follow the particular rules of S@H, so that we are not yelling "fire!"

    Consider this thread in light of:
    No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.
    Along with:
    No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people ... .


    Casting claims of "intellectual cowardice", incorrectly used, antagonizes all but about 3 posters in the Political Forum. Calling them socialists, when many demonstrably are not, is similar. "Sheeple"? Same logic.

    This thread also comes quite close to "comments related to specific moderator actions".

    In the last few years, the project scientist acting as the Forum Admin, and the current mods, have worked very hard on fair moderation approaches. They are a lot easier to discuss concerns with. Do keep that in mind when feeling "persecuted".
    3693) Message boards : Politics : "Freedom" of speech (Message 1330269)
    Posted 23 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Written by another:

    What is free speech here? It's called--banished!
    Why is it called banished? Because socialist don't understand free speech.
    Why don't they understand free speech? They are sheeple.


    Freedom of speech does not grant one the "right" to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater when no such fire exists.
    As these are S@H's fora, as part of UC Berkeley, S@H has the right (no quotes needed) to state their version of rules surrounding free speech. (Don't like it? Post elsewhere.)
    In the past, has there not been a rule about not discussing moderation openly in the fora? To not flame, whether other posters or the mods themselves?
    (Example: referring to socialism in the way it is in the above quote is, at best, a sweeping generalization and at worst a flame against most to all posters and mods.)
    3694) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1330210)
    Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then THIS is the guy you want, right? I see a lot of people applauding his recent stance and comments. Do they really know what they're in for? :)
    3695) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1330050)
    Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In The Libber World, We The People Are All Safe. From Ourselves and Others.

    There will be No Who Or What Is Dangerous.

    Remember The Happy, Safe, Working, Partying, Vacationing Germans? From '33 to '39. They thought The German Guv Was Da Bomb.

    Then The Germans, brought Into The Camps, to View What Their Guv Had Wrought-IN THEIR NAME.

    What Is The Government Doing IN OUR NAME? Making US Safe?

    Let The Working, Partying, Vacationing Begin.

    You Know, Like It Is Inaug Day and Night, Every Day and Night.

    PROFessor S. Say: You Can't Bring Back 1999, But Youse Kan Liv' it Every Moment.


    We follow that with a brief interruption to this political "discussion". A lil "Alternative/Brit Pop/Life-Go-Round" music to calm y'all down. http://www.reverbnation.com/tyroneschulaceandhispals
    3696) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1330014)
    Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't see any slaves in your pictures sarge. Thanks for supporting me.


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329878
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329931
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70368&postid=1329955
    3697) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1330007)
    Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Free men have guns. Slaves don't.


    3698) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1330006)
    Posted 22 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Free men have guns. Slaves don't.

    3699) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329955)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya know, it's kind of difficult to have a civilized conversation with you when you refuse to acknowledge more than four percent of the facts.

    Have you taken a look at what's happened in Australia since they banned guns?

    Where's our Australian friends? How come you're being so quiet now?

    How's that long-gun registration going for you up in Canada?

    Ask me politely to turn in my assault weapons for destruction and to register all my other guns. Let's see how that'll work out.


    It's also hard when you conveniently overlooked that it wasn't Hitler or the Nazis that banned guns in Germany, it was the Weimar Republic.
    I pointed that out 1-2 days ago.
    A former S@H cruncher, conservative, whom I am connected to elsewhere (as are some of the other posters here, people more liberal than I am independent), conceded this point.
    Your response should either have been concession as well, or educating me on how I was wrong.
    Alas, that was not to be. Instead, you repeated it:
    Ya mean like Mao Ze-Dong's China, Adolf Hitler's Germany, Joseph Stalin's USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodia and Kim Il Sung's North Korea?

    If you want civil conversation, be civil. When you claim something, and some believes they've disproved it (in this me, and I can look up the links again), then follow it up! If you find the counterclaim is correct, drop it (or even admit it "out loud".) Don't repeat your original, wrong, claim! If the counterclaimer is wrong, prove it to them. You, nor the "memes" posted here or on social networking sites, have not proven Hitler banned guns. I have seen much evidence brought against this claim. I have seen evidence brought against some of the other, similar, claims as well (though some of that may just be the dates someone was in power).
    If this can't be done, well, I'll quote some Metallica & Styx for ya, and I think we know how the rest of your posting career here at S@H is going to work out.

    Metallica: My Friend of Misery

    You just stood there screaming
    Fearing no one was listening to you
    They say the empty can rattles the most
    The sound of your own voice must soothe you
    Hearing only what you want to hear
    And knowing only what you've heard
    You, you're smothered in tragedy
    And you're out to save the world


    Styx: Cold War

    Ya talk, talk,
    and get so intense
    that ya almost make sense.
    And that's what scares me the most.
    3700) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1329937)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aaaaaand that that, this thread just got ridiculous.

    Then you have a higher threshold for ridiculousity than most.
    3701) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329931)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So what evidence suggests making the entire U.S. a gun free zone will reduce these mass killings?


    When I am the person making such a claim, I'll provide the backing.
    If I cannot provide the backing, I won't make the claim. See how that works?
    In the meantime, answer the REASONABLE question I posed (as it is claim some have made), or talk about something else, instead of trying to derail.
    P.S.-how's the non-hyperbolic posting working, like 5 gallon tanks, eh?
    3702) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1329924)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once enacted by a majority of the governed or our representatives, all laws are enforced by, duh, force.


    You're sounding a lot like the Khmer Rouge, the Chinese Secret Police, Che Guevara, the Gestapo, and the NKVD.

    If civil war breaks out, I'll know which side you're on.


    Hint: we're already seceding from you before you can. We are well past the process of petitions. You have lost and will continue to lose. Be sure to gather all your friends and relatives in TX.

    LOL! Your unarmed! LOL!


    Care to test that hypothesis? ;)
    3703) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329916)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because gun-free zones are generally areas where there will be lots of potential victims so you get a bigger splash on the news.


    That has been suggested before.
    The killers want to live in infamy.
    But, wait! They usually commit suicide.
    So, they just want their name(s) remembered long after their deaths.
    To that, I respond, what proof do we have that, for example, Klebold and Harris thought this way. Who did they tell this to? Did they post it somewhere on the interwebs? Was it written in their journals?
    Provide me evidence that they were looking for infamy, and not just looking to get their jollies as much as they could as they shot so many rounds and killed so many people.
    3704) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329822)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not know where people get this notion that the nazi's closed christian schools ar had their symbols removed.

    Those people seceretly admire the tactics but don't want to be seen as espousing the same ideal so they repeat a lie until it becomes truth, but that is the key to building a religion; the repetition of lies until they are believed to be truths.

    They in fact closed secular schools, because of their belief that secular schools could not teach morals.

    +1


    You continue To Be Der Mensch.

    Right Side of the Continuum Nature. You have Improved It.

    You stand Above the Worm.

    I Cannot draw, otherwise I'd paint Your Picture (or a Raccoon) ... with Parted Hair, of course.

    PROFessor S. Say: Smart Posts from Others besides Gary? ROTFLMAO!!!
    3705) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329821)
    Posted 21 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lamestream media is downplaying the numbers at the "festivities" in D.C. (truly closer to 5 million) so as to seem less tempting for madmen. Madmen like to perform to millions, not hundreds of thousands.
    3706) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329612)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/incremental.htm
    Kitty Werthmann told us how Hitler nationalized the education system. Christian symbols were removed and prayer was banned. Through their government-run child care program, the Nazis would indoctrinate the children with politically correct ideology and absolute loyalty to Hitler. Hitler worship became part of the new structure. The daycare workers were trained in Marxist psychology, not motherly love, for Hitler was fascinated with communist mind-control.

    Really? Guess the commies were quick to organize, research and disseminate after their Bloody Revolution, then, right?

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/luria/works/1979/mind/intro.htm
    All of these ideas, which are to be found in Luria's writings as early as the 1920s, render him a prematurely modern psychologist who happened to begin life before his ideas could find confirmation in existing technologies or data. But it is not possible or appropriate to locate Luria's ideas only in terms of world psychology and neurophysiology. The fact that he was a Russian intellectual actively involved in the building of Soviet science and psychology shaped his career from its earliest days.

    For approximately a decade following the Revolution there was a great deal of experimentation and improvization in the conduct of Soviet science, education, and economic policy. Less well known than the political struggles after Lenin's death are the experiments with new forms of schooling, free market agriculture, modern means of expression in the arts, and new branches of science. During the 1920s, virtually every psychological movement existing in western Europe and the United States found adherents in the Soviet Union. Perhaps because psychology as an academic discipline was embryonic at the end of the tsarist era, with only a single institute devoted to what was then recognized as psychology proper, an unusual variety of viewpoints and activities competed actively for the right to determine what the new Soviet psychology should be like. Educators, doctors, psychiatrists, psychoanalysts, neurologists. and physiologists often contributed to national meetings devoted to discussions of research and theory.

    As the decade progressed, three issues came to dominate these discussions. First, there was increasing concern that Soviet psychology should be self-consciously Marxist. No-one was certain what this meant, but everyone joined in the discussion with their own proposals. Second, psychology must be a materialist discipline; all psychologists were obliged to search for the material basis of mind. And third, psychology should have relevance to the building of a socialist society. Lenin's exhortation that theory be tested in practice was a matter of both economic and social urgency.

    Toward the end of the 1920s this discussion had progressed to a point where there was agreement on some general principles, but the major conclusions did not single out any existing approach as a model for others. At the same time, the country experienced new economic and social upheavals with the advent of the rapid collectivization of agriculture and a greatly accelerated pace of heavy industrial development. Existing psychological schools were found to be wanting in their practical contributions to these new social demands as well.

    A major result of these ideological and performance deficiencies was a deliberate reorganization of psychological research in the mid-1930s. While the specific events associated with this reorganization grew out of dissatisfaction with the use of psychological tests in education and industry, the result was a general decline in the authority and prestige of psychology as a whole.
    3707) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329528)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another multiple shooting, no details at moment so no speculating.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21110435


    It was a 15 year old kid, the only Democrat in a 6 member family. He heard Obama's voice in his head telling him to shoot the rest of his family, so Obama would have more cause to take away the guns.
    3708) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329491)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As stated before, his cuff buttons clack against the podium almost every time he speaks. It is hard to find him a "charming" speaker, leading us to the world's end, when there's that constant distraction.
    3709) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329488)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations, such as ad hominem attacks by people ...


    Yeah? Find one. Red X me. Your posts have been demonstrably hostile to ALL people from several months.

    ... like "Sarge the Pro..tagonist" (name change number .... 4 or 5?) who project on people who spread the truth.


    You have a problem with "using absurdity to demonstrate the absurd"?
    Whose line is that? Hint: initials R.L.

    History shows us that ...
    ... it was the Weimar Republic that passed the gun laws in Germany, before the Nazis rose to power.

    BTW, find out what your current hero, Alex Jones, really believes: Alex Jones discusses Area 51 with "Tim".
    "Project" them holograms. Mmmm, bacon holograms, hot and tasty, fer shur hair parted and more lampoony posts on the way!
    3710) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329484)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't a person who would commit homicide by definition mentally ill?


    No, not if the victim is a conservative, a republican, or an unborn child.


    Cite, please? LOL!
    3711) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1329451)
    Posted 20 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We currently have legislation (proposed or otherwise) to ban all guys?

    (If we did I might have my over your button)


    How many times does a screen name need to be changed anyway, right?
    3712) Message boards : Politics : West Point analyzing "terrorists" in the US. (Message 1329124)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I liked the last few sentances.


    Implying that West Point (and perhaps other things military) have/has become (a) hotbed(s) of liberalism?!?

    NO not at all. That maybe they should confine the study to people we know are actually trying to or killing us.


    Before Al Qaeda first struck us in 1993 (remember!?), they first planned.
    But you want internal?
    OK: Timothy McVeigh. I'm sure he did some planning first, as well.
    3713) Message boards : Politics : West Point analyzing "terrorists" in the US. (Message 1329017)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I liked the last few sentances.


    Implying that West Point (and perhaps other things military) have/has become (a) hotbed(s) of liberalism?!?
    3714) Message boards : Politics : DEAD. Murder? usa internet LAW REFORM REQUIRED! (Message 1329015)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe the owner of said papers ran out of cash and cant take his reasearch any farther. So if you want to expand on my work you have to pay my fee or you cant get access to my work.


    Write a grant. Apply for NSF funding. Or even a Pepsi Grant. (Yes, they exist.)
    3715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1328963)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He;s on again.
    If nothing else, the show is entertaining.
    But not liking this episode on Einstein.
    3716) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1328954)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting. 2 hang ups from an area code in TX.

    if they weren't from India via VOIP -- pick your caller ID message


    My Obamaphone doesn't allow that.
    3717) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1328935)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting. 2 hang ups from an area code in TX.
    3718) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1328894)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, completely off topic, but...are you serious with that screen name, Guy??


    no, but others in here are.


    Grow up and stick with one screen name.
    3719) Message boards : Politics : West Point analyzing "terrorists" in the US. (Message 1328893)
    Posted 19 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yup!
    3720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waiting for Godot (Message 1328705)
    Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    3721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waiting for Godot (Message 1328505)
    Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does Godot know how to get here?

    He has always not known forever, simultaneously being here yet on his way.
    3722) Message boards : Politics : DEAD. Murder? usa internet LAW REFORM REQUIRED! (Message 1328492)
    Posted 18 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the sake of academic papers that are supposed to be publicly available in the first place!

    Says Martin and Swartz. US Copyright Office certified they were not publicly available. Penal code says you don't use someone's computer without permission. Martin, do you want unauthorized use on your computer?

    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


    Is JStor free?
    3723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waiting for Godot (Message 1328170)
    Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is absurd.

    Had to look up "Godot"...

    Now I get it. ;-)


    Please, Dave, don't tell me the quality of NYS education has gone down since my day.


    It probably has- but I think my lack of knowledge was due to a generational gap coupled with a lack of interest in plays.
    :-P

    @David, I am also posting from my phone at the moment.
    Waiting to leave work. Ready for dinner.


    Just a 10 year difference!
    3724) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1328168)
    Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method?

    I didn't expect Godwin's law out of you Es?


    So, you're saying Hitler (or Stalin) made no such attempts?
    Sorry, but most times, Godwin's Law probably applies. There are, however, times when the response is germane to the conversation.


    P.S.-when I asked you a few weeks back or so what experience you had with the mentally ill, and you responded with passing by them on the streets often enough (though I wonder if homeless and drunk or whatever is enough to make that designation), I meant what experience with family members or friends suffering a mental illness (to whatever degree).
    3725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Waiting for Godot (Message 1328134)
    Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is absurd.

    Had to look up "Godot"...

    Now I get it. ;-)


    Please, Dave, don't tell me the quality of NYS education has gone down since my day.
    3726) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1328132)
    Posted 17 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method?

    I didn't expect Godwin's law out of you Es?


    So, you're saying Hitler (or Stalin) made no such attempts?
    Sorry, but most times, Godwin's Law probably applies. There are, however, times when the response is germane to the conversation.
    3727) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : A Quantum of Qusars? (Message 1327564)
    Posted 14 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting article.
    3728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lypozene (Message 1327302)
    Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1 to all recent posts.
    Thanksin yousa for my dull loneliness removins!
    3729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lypozene (Message 1327242)
    Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ask your doctor about Placebo. Placebo may be right for you.

    Take one tic tac at four hour intervals... :)


    If you see signs of early puberty or increased severe acne in women nearby, stop use immediately and contact your doctor.
    3730) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1327240)
    Posted 13 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meesa am so lonely, and meesa only 4'5" tall! Yousa discussin with me da ancient aliens?


    Enough discussion threads here already...;)


    So, what you're saying is ... ?
    3731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lypozene (Message 1327220)
    Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you 4'5: tall?
    Do you weigh at least 450 pounds?
    Would Lypozene work for you?
    The commercial says "You just can't do it on your own. You know, fo sho, you can't!"
    Try it.
    It might help with that side-effect of talking like Jar Jar Binks, or believing in Ancient Aliens!

    Or even having ones hand stuffed in ones jacket? ;)

    Oh and I'm 6'1" tall and somewhere near 400lbs, whether I like it or not and I'll not go into that further.


    So, neither applies! :)
    And jackets are cool!
    3732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lypozene (Message 1327219)
    Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ask your doctor about Placebo. Placebo may be right for you.

    +1!
    Ask your doctor about every medicine mentioned in every ad, even if none of the symptoms apply!
    3733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Lypozene (Message 1327153)
    Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you 4'5: tall?
    Do you weigh at least 450 pounds?
    Would Lypozene work for you?
    The commercial says "You just can't do it on your own. You know, fo sho, you can't!"
    Try it.
    It might help with that side-effect of talking like Jar Jar Binks, or believing in Ancient Aliens!
    3734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1327057)
    Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meesa am so lonely, and meesa only 4'5" tall! Yousa discussin with me da ancient aliens?
    3735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Year, New Moderator rotation for the team (Message 1326894)
    Posted 12 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uli and Julie: superlative work and a rest well earned.

    Ex and Clive: Hehehe, fresh blood. Yummie.


    While Ex is in your age bracket, I think he's married. Hands off! :)
    3736) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1326711)
    Posted 11 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man O Live!
    You Sho Be Da "story teller".

    "My Dad had a SleepOver with Marilyn Monroe and a few other well known Starlets.
    And they always gave me a hug, kiss, and pat on the head." ...Mr"5' 4" PROFessor SARCASM"

    i don't be knowing yo Daddy, but do know of Marilyn Monroe.

    Mr "5' 4" PROFessor SARCASM" you be the "Son of a Nobody" riding the coattails of a Hollywood Star.
    Dig those ditches, i know you can.

    You are a Legend in Your own Mind.


    3737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326570)
    Posted 11 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now THAT is disgusting!!!!!!

    I know I am. I'm so sorry! :)
    3738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326461)
    Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most discussing thing EVAH!



    Yes, Uli, that's me, 6 yeas ago. You didn't need to ask via PM.
    3739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326252)
    Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, time to put this thread to sleep with the most disgusting thing ever.

    Yesterday, Allie was fooling around with one of my cameras and took a really disgusting photo.

    /thread

    Oh da horror, You don't want to show that... ;)


    3740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussing the disgusting (Message 1326239)
    Posted 10 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most discussing thing EVAH!

    3741) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1326201)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3742) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1326187)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FOX News just reported this one's going viral!

    3743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1326002)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If in dought,
    blame it on Aliens,
    They cant prove you wrong,
    Or,
    They think you R a total nut case and stop pestering you,
    Dont try this if they are wearing a SETI tee shirt, coz then U iz realy in for it :¬)





    Oh God, they're all around us!!! ;)


    Muhaha! Yes, they are.
    But, not God (or gods). Misunderstood technology! Ancient aliens!
    3744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1326000)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's on right now!!!!!!!!!!!

    +1
    3745) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1325995)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listen Up Mr. Hug 'em, Kiss 'em, Speechify 'em and Promise DEM Bacon.

    GUV CHRISTIE WANTS HIS FRAKKING BACON. NOW MO FO!

    And YO, Mr Commander, Thanks For Making Afganistan A Frakking Disaster. Ruskie Much? The World Is Laughing Their Socialist/Communist/Muslim Butts Off. AT US

    Thanks Mr. ZERO DARK Laid A Turdy.

    And The New Report About Social Security? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Man O Live. YOu SHO Get Wats YOu Vote For.

    PROFessor S. Say: BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBacon


    3746) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1325942)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like Biden came through and gave the liberals what they wanted. However, all those details and numbers turned everyone off. All that finger pointing, the incessant interruptions, talking angrily and down at the moderator, the head swinging, smirking, laughing and his continuous repetition all made Biden sound desperate and condescending. Although the liberals want a leader to talk to them like this, most Americans are tired of it. Looks like he realized all the non-verbal gaffes he was making about 15 minutes before the end of the “debate.”

    I especially didn't like Biden pointing his middle finger at Ryan.

    CNN tried copying what Frank Lutz does on Fox with a group of people and their little knobs to turn up and down and afterwards Wolf Blizted didn't want to admit what's happening to the rein of the current regime.

    Even PMSLSD is starting to admit the fall of the current dictator-in-chief.

    The swing voters who voted for hope and change in 2008 have realized that voting for someone based on his skin color and not on the content of his character does not work.


    3747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1325941)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If in dought,
    blame it on Aliens,
    They cant prove you wrong,
    Or,
    They think you R a total nut case and stop pestering you,
    Dont try this if they are wearing a SETI tee shirt, coz then U iz realy in for it :¬)


    3748) Message boards : Politics : First meltdown of the year (Message 1325926)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was hoping some of the Brits on the forums could chime in, since, you know, Piers is so loved in the UK!

    Piers is a friend of Rupert Murdoch.
    Rupert Murdoch is a friend of conservatives.
    3749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1325916)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3750) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1325913)
    Posted 9 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Good thing
    that guy
    ^
    |
    isn't our vice-president, eh?!
    3751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1325904)
    Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...///...

    How about a redhead in a black dress and boots?



    Offering??


    I'm a dude, dude! :P
    3752) Message boards : Politics : First meltdown of the year (Message 1325893)
    Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It felt a bit like trying to have a civil discussion with (banished: ID 7787259) here online!
    3753) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1325672)
    Posted 8 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Romney should hold a press conference and announce he's withdrawing from the last two debates.


    I think that that is a very good suggestion. Middle-school, playground behavior is unbecoming to who we are or used to be.


    How'd that plan work out?


    Not well, I guess, as it appears it was not tried? ;)
    3754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Joan Marie Larken. (Message 1325576)
    Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait.
    Jett who?
    Jet Li?
    3755) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1325435)
    Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll take the lack of a response, after 22 hours, as a no; i.e., it's acceptable for me to look like this. :)

    Is your name John Malkovich?


    Nope, I'm Chumlee from "Pawn Stars" on the History Channel. :)
    3756) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1325421)
    Posted 7 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Are you saying this is an unacceptable look for me?


    I'll take the lack of a response, after 22 hours, as a no; i.e., it's acceptable for me to look like this. :)
    3757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of anti-discussion (Message 1325175)
    Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh my, you are all at it again with the discussions.

    Do we need to have a discussion about the discussion of the anti-discussion thread in response to the discussion of discussions thread?

    I'm going back to the anti-discussion thread, where I do not have to discuss things.


    You could (do any and all of the above).
    3758) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1325148)
    Posted 6 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you saying this is an unacceptable look for me?

    3759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of anti-discussion (Message 1325071)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Drive them, insane? Prod the mods?
    Nah, I think they're having as much fun or more.
    3760) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1325060)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, you (plural) think ALL men that are single are single because all they do/say is "look, I can win you bread" and do not treat women as equals?
    3761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1324833)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think I'd like being a Cylon. Being able to download into a shiny new body has appeal. :P

    Especially if I download into Tricia Helfer's body.

    If that`s the blond bint in the red dress she would be out the air lock faster than she could say,
    but.......

    blond = fail
    red dress = fail
    high heels = fail

    [i never got married, wonder why]


    Gee that's too bad. I've been blond in the past, I have a red dress and most around here already know that I've love my heels.

    :(


    SHHHHHHH!
    (before they all start up with the shoes again)
    ;-)


    3762) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1324829)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Between contraception and the subsidy of women with children there is a hole

    generation of neets in japan and Nintendo kids in the US were young men do not

    even try to com-peat for women in there life because they know they won't be

    chosen, not when they see the girls that are available choosing the same short

    list of guy's that because they can treat women badly.

    lol


    I am not joking many women date men solely because other women are dating them

    men not dating are automatically suspect.

    uh huh...and I am sure they keep telling themselves that.


    Think again, Es.
    3763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1324763)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not wish to discuss the "Ancient Aliens" guy.
    3764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1324762)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to my screen again, Giorgio. Where have you been all week?
    3765) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1324759)
    Posted 5 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has been, unfortunately, socially acceptable for people to share widely and loudly with others their mental illnesses and other such things. I blame 1/2 of the Seattle grunge music movement.
    3766) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Linkvolt_Neil Young's 6000 lb. Hybrid. Ready To Roll (Message 1324644)
    Posted 4 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Silence is Deafening as Prof Sarc berates from the podium and the blackboard.
    3767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of anti-discussion (Message 1324513)
    Posted 4 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This monkey business, interested I am


    Monkey business, none there is here.
    3768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1324375)
    Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eric is truly a sad Badger tonight...

    Isn't that three times in a row? And this time to those trees across the bay!


    It is, in fact, three consecutive invitations to the Rose Bowl in a row for those mighty University of Wisconson @ Madison Badgers (Eric's undergraduate alma mater), with a resulting three consecutive painful defeats. And Gary, you are correct. Given that Eric did his Ph.D. at Berkeley and there is a huge Berkeley/Stanford rivalry, losing to Stanford was exceptionally awful for poor Eric.

    If anything can get him snapped out of the doldrums I'm sure Angela's Kitchen and Wounded Animal Love and Care Center can bring him around. :-)


    Could work!
    3769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of anti-discussion (Message 1324260)
    Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally, I think they just don't want to discuss.
    3770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1324257)
    Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    3771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1324010)
    Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eric is truly a sad Badger tonight...

    Isn't that three times in a row? And this time to those trees across the bay!


    I do not follow football, but my translator indicates U of M, Ann Arbor, Michigan?
    3772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1324009)
    Posted 3 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think I'd like being a Cylon. Being able to download into a shiny new body has appeal. :P

    Especially if I download into Tricia Helfer's body.

    If that`s the blond bint in the red dress she would be out the air lock faster than she could say,
    but.......

    blond = fail
    red dress = fail
    high heels = fail

    [i never got married, wonder why]


    How about a redhead in a black dress and boots?
    3773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Anti Discussion (Message 1323502)
    Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I told you about it, I would have to kill you.

    So, you want to hang me?
    3774) Message boards : Politics : HIGH POWER AIR THE OTHER GUNS (Message 1323501)
    Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    high power air over the last few years have become what they were for Lewis and

    Clark a good way to hunt and a better way to protect themself's.

    modern air such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlxcFSq5k8c

    can be used for hunting or target practice and differs only in two

    distinct way form a conventional rife 1 it is quieter and 2 it does not

    use chemical burning to expel the bullet so BTAF HAS NO JURIDICTION.

    I thought it might be interesting to see here peoples views on these.


    So, now we have a 5 thread clip? .... er magazine? ... magazine clip, maybe? ... for discussing these issues?!?

    One thread should suffice.
    3775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1323440)
    Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I demand cut backs in discussion.
    Errr ... wait ... ?
    3776) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1323418)
    Posted 2 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only answer and the way forward is to restrict as far as possible the ownership of guns to sane people ...


    Once again, I ask, do we have mental health experts here?
    Do you not realize some people are not able to be diagnosed for years?
    Or that some can be "mentally healthy" and then begin to exhibit mental illness?

    Cops (in the US) are perhaps the most psych tested people. Cops abuse their wives at a much larger rate the the population in general. Cops are taught that violence is the answer to most conflicts. Think a bit. What is the problem?


    A reasonable question, and we could go round on the reasons, but that wasn't the point of my questions. I am thinking of the general population. Not just police officers.
    3777) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1323362)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only answer and the way forward is to restrict as far as possible the ownership of guns to sane people ...


    Once again, I ask, do we have mental health experts here?
    Do you not realize some people are not able to be diagnosed for years?
    Or that some can be "mentally healthy" and then begin to exhibit mental illness?
    3778) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1323067)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== yowza! This guy wakes up with his hair parted!
    3779) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1323065)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3780) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1323056)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lets see. My lights gas and phone bills have gone up. My medical insurance as gone up. Gasoline is way up, food costs are up. I havent had a raise in over 2 years. And now the do nothing, stupid, idotic , thieving fingerpointing crooks from both sides have decided I need to pay another $ 3500.00 in taxes.

    I work my ass off 6 days a week just so I can get farther behind because the assclowns we elect would rather play the blame game.

    And the sad part is the next election the same jerks will get relected. Screw it maybe I should just sit on my butt and get my Obammy phone.


    Obamaphones do not exist.


    But the dole does.


    Bob Dole says Bob Dole's still kicking.
    3781) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1323053)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lets see. My lights gas and phone bills have gone up. My medical insurance as gone up. Gasoline is way up, food costs are up. I havent had a raise in over 2 years. And now the do nothing, stupid, idotic , thieving fingerpointing crooks from both sides have decided I need to pay another $ 3500.00 in taxes.

    I work my ass off 6 days a week just so I can get farther behind because the assclowns we elect would rather play the blame game.

    And the sad part is the next election the same jerks will get relected. Screw it maybe I should just sit on my butt and get my Obammy phone.


    Obamaphones do not exist.
    3782) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1323039)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

    Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

    Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

    If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



    he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

    mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

    or doing them.


    Wow. What a concept!


    I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

    No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


    this is dancers room mate

    about 95% of "gun crimes" are performed with a gun that has been obtained illegally. therefore, gun crimes won't really decrease by not allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns.
    It's just like drugs. Ya just abuse them and obtain them illegally


    I think if Dancer's roommate is going to post so much, Dancer's roommate should get a separate computer working for SETI@Home so that Dancer's roommate will have his or her own account.
    3783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1323015)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG!!! Where will it end...? ;)


    With the award of the Seti ID Scholarship for Disambiguity.


    Hey! No awarding awards without an operational definition of disambiguity being spelled out, in triplicate, with a copy on Eric's desk by 5pm and an additional copy filed with the office of the UC Berkeley Chancellor in Charge of Procurement of Toilet Paper.

    You failed to specify which day, therefore, it is always on Eris's desk before 5 p.m.


    5pm tomorrow.

    Rumor has it he isn't at his desk tomorrow. Something about a football game.


    Panem et football?
    3784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1322991)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still wondering what an ailen is?
    3785) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1322964)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And in the midst of all the higher taxes coming for we, the people....
    Obama, by executive order, lifted the ban on congressional pay raises last week.

    "So who benefits? Vice President Biden, for starters. According to disclosure forms, Biden made $225,521 last year. After his raise which goes into effect March 27, 2013, he’ll be taking home $231,900.

    Rank-and-file members of Congress, meanwhile, will see a $900 bump -- up from $174,000. Congressional leaders will receive a slightly higher raise, with the House speaker receiving a $1,100 salary increase to $224,600. The top two Senate leaders will see pay rise $1,000, to $194,400."


    Yeah, they all share our pain.

    Did you get a rise on your basic salary this year and was it bigger than the 0.5% the politicians got?


    While I received a 10% raise, if you knew how low the total still is, you'd be appalled.
    3786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1322946)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If it's not on his desk soon, we're going over the discussion cliff!
    3787) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1322944)
    Posted 1 Jan 2013 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apparently, it is time.
    3788) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1322872)
    Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

    Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

    Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

    If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



    he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

    mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

    or doing them.


    Wow. What a concept!


    I know but he/she didn't seam able to understand.

    No, he/she thought it was a stupid equivalency.


    3789) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1322836)
    Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Romney should hold a press conference and announce he's withdrawing from the last two debates.


    I think that that is a very good suggestion. Middle-school, playground behavior is unbecoming to who we are or used to be.


    How'd that plan work out?
    3790) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1322765)
    Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, you da man!
    What's that smell?
    Gary uses Axe deodorant for the ladies and doesn't have anything going on with pre-creation entities.
    Wait. Is this dangerous?
    3791) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1322546)
    Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So making assault weapons illegal will take them of the street? We should make heroine and meth illegal too.

    Are you suggesting that guns are addictive? and that once a person starts using one they become chemically dependent on it and trapped in a circle of violence and addiction as the gun takes over their life?

    Are there then people out there that will steal if they can't get hold of a bullets? That will go without food to get their bullets? That will neglect themselves, prostitute themselves if they can't get bullets?

    If guns are like meth and heroine then the problem is more serious that we thought.



    he was making the point that just because you make something illegal doesn't

    mean that you can get it out of the hand of the people or stop people using

    or doing them.


    Wow. What a concept!
    3792) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1322494)
    Posted 31 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the rare event that it is a single father raising the children, snide comments are made in that case, too.
    3793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1322470)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Soft. Here is some inspiration for all of us who are listening for aliens. Mabey we have heard them already?



    "Do I have to make your ears bleed to make you pay attention to the messages we've been sending?!?"
    3794) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1322437)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm still interested in what religious believers think their god was doing before creation? I don't care which god you follow.

    If I may ask, to what end?
    Do you hope to find something convincing in what they say?
    Do you hope to dissuade them?
    Or some third end I have not thought of?
    3795) Message boards : Politics : The Gender Wars (Message 1322434)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just how much TV had she absorbed by then?

    Not a lot, we weren't a TV watching family

    Was she home-schooled?
    If not, how many of her female classmates and female neighbors her age were playing with dolls?
    3796) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1322365)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pitiful Peace Prize Potus says, AGAIN FOR THE BILLIONTH time: It's Up To You GOP.

    Hustlin' Hussein is, this time, calling on The Dead GOPers Of Yore to Get 'er Done, along with The Dead Acting GOPers.

    Ya See, Hawaiian Hustlin' Hussein is not only The Useless-In-Chief, he is The Re-animator-In-Chief.

    Bacon Gettin' Barry is Ready To Serve The 47 Percent.

    Surf's Up Bronco.

    DEMON...Hellish


    BZGL MPOP AYLW SKKU LHPV HFNW ANYN ITUN HXQF FPTI WXWZ HMZU VYIS PPVG HRTM LEYY GHCR TOTD JANJ IUBR KQQZ DQCW XWRI SKAR MIEJ RYGJ IBVO SNHG MYIN NTUJ PJIJ AEEX IKGJ HXOL FPVW ASA4
    3797) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : One unanswered question that still allows for the existence of God (Message 1322271)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    euh... personally i really dont believe gravity can affect time, nor the speed of light.

    does anyone here travelled one time in his life at light speed and can effectively prove that the time was different ? or someone sent an object or a clock at light speed for x hours or x days and can effectively prove the difference of time ?
    Very accurate clocks have been sent into orbit and their running compared to similar clocks on Earth. They appear to slow down very slightly, from our point of view, even when traveling at the speed of ~ 5 miles per second. The degree of slowing is in agreement with Relativity theory. If the relative speed could be increased to nearer that of light, the degree of slowing would be expected to be greater.

    Yes, those clocks are on GPS satellites and your GPS has to know about relativity to get your position.


    +1
    3798) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1322268)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you want to know what is wrong with your hypothesis, you argue about crime and theft. That is the withdrawal of capital from society going to the less fortunate.


    Is this how Bernie Maddoff is describing himself? No. Crime and theft are not only perpetrated by less fortunate.
    3799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1322262)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    and on the subject of Red Dwarf i got series ten on DVD for christmass presi from my sister :¬)

    Sniff I am jealous. I love that series.


    How about "Firefly"? ;)
    3800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1321976)
    Posted 30 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Closer to the truth, you know you're gonna have to face it, you're addicted to aliens.
    3801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1321816)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! love the title.

    (Talk amongst yourselves)


    You get it, man, you get it. Let me award you the Demonella Brouddy Prize.


    I thought that was Bro Heim prize?


    Nein. Be like Theee Weeeeasel, buuuudy. Now say it ... bro'uuuuuddy! ("Don't bro' me if ya don't know me.")

    3802) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1321810)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once enacted by a majority of the governed or our representatives, all laws are enforced by, duh, force.


    You're sounding a lot like the Khmer Rouge, the Chinese Secret Police, Che Guevara, the Gestapo, and the NKVD.

    If civil war breaks out, I'll know which side you're on.


    Hint: we're already seceding from you before you can. We are well past the process of petitions. You have lost and will continue to lose. Be sure to gather all your friends and relatives in TX.
    3803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1321473)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps this thread needs some rules.
    Wait, that might spawn a discussion of the discussion of discussions thread?
    3804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1321469)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Now that is cool. :)

    You know that makes 3 Starbucks in one spot don't Ya?


    That's 9 years old.
    And, unfortunately, Dirk later went on a rant about how the re-imagined series was no good.
    3805) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1321412)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do we have experts on mental health here?
    I'm not so sure.
    Encountering homeless people on the street frequently I do not think counts.
    And the suggestion that it is not a problem if it is being treated? Ludicrous! I have experienced the danger. Don't tell me it's not a problem when treatment is going on.
    3806) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1321406)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The general welfare clause was not meant for the use you imply. Before you go and use someones thinking on that clause you should go to the founders and find the intent of it. Just sayin...

    Out of curiosity, As you are a constitutional "literalist" can you please explain your interpretation of this ? The phrase "Promote the general welfare" draws a pretty wide bow.

    I'm not being smart when I ask this question. I ask it from the position of an observer located many thousands of miles away who is unfamiliar with all the quirks, interpretations and court rulings that have taken place over the last 230 odd years.

    T.A.

    If he says intent, he will quote from The Federalist Papers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers


    I'm sorry, I have trouble reading that late 17th century muddle. Those big Bs meant in place of double s's make my eyes hurt. Maybe I could get Glenn Beck to translate to modern day language for me? ;)

    Hessian!
    3807) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1321102)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Fearful-of-ban-frenzied-buyers-swarm-gun-stores-185101411.html
    3808) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1321092)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bad move?
    3809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption # 49 (Message 1321091)
    Posted 29 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And.. GO!



    "AH, nuts, I forgot which side of the road to drive on in the US."
    3810) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1320968)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Article I
    Section. 8 of the US COnstitution

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    Sixty-first Congress of the United States of America, At the First Session,

    Begun and held at the City of Washington on Monday, the fifteenth day of March, one thousand nine hundred and nine.

    JOINT RESOLUTION
    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which, when ratified by the legislature of three-fourths of the several States, shall be valid to all intents and purposes as a part of the Constitution:

    "ARTICLE XVI. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
    3811) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1320707)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sassy Speculators aka World Wide Price Makers (Got That Pride, Right?), aka The Spectifier (Tearboy Up and Makes US/us in the gas lines ... errr ... milk lines Tear Up Along With Them) aka The Possessed Hired to Get 'Er Down.

    Price Hit Men aka Profitus Protem are Working Hard for their 100 Percent.

    Man 'O Live. Me oh my! They're coming to take you away. Hee hee! You Get What You Speculate/Pay For.

    The Bakers are Coming. Tasty.

    FOny SHOrn unparted hair.

    DEnOm...HOT Crispy Bakers.
    3812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1320702)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I suspect this was written by Chris S. ;)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378284/Secret-memo-shows-JFK-demanded-UFO-files-10-days-assassination.html
    3813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As I have posted for many years..... (Message 1320700)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As I have posted for many years..... (Message 1320699)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . See!
    3815) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1320684)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    I am neither, Constitutionalist point of view would be me.


    I am not a Democrat, not a socialist and not a leftist. I am independent.

    Oh..oh! Are we labeling ourselves now?

    I'm an independent too.

    With pragmatist socialistic capitalistic libertarian anarchic tendencies.

    I follow Cthulhu and all his teachings.


    Cthulhu?
    3816) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1320680)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How does looping my cash through D.C. back to Springfield Il. then down to the person cost cutting. If I loop my cash into these cities they, by bureaucracy apply checks {to themselves} cut my dollar into 23 cents {or less} before it gets back here.

    It would be better for people who are in need to ask for help local, very local, as a matter of fact the more local they more the person will get and with less paper work.

    Example, schools would be funded by property tax {LOL, ya right} that was sent to the county treasurer. That would make the election of the county treasurer of more importance then elected state officials, even federal officials. And if a problem arose you wouldn't have to go to D.C. or Springfield to fix the problem.

    Also, who knows best who is in need of help where I live? D.C.? Springfield? Or us in our own county? If you have answered anything other then county level you are a shill for party not a realist who cares for neighbor.

    If my taxes weren't going for the pay checks of a HUGE bureaucracy...

    ...many more would be cared for correctly.

    From what I understand you as a democrat state are subsidising the Republican states as they tend to get more money back than they pay in taxes.

    You should probably be annoyed about that and ask that the Republican states start to pull their weight and stop free-loading off the Democrat states.

    I am not Left or right. I am a Constitutionalist. Both need to stop begging off the people.


    Since when is Left or Right restricted to the two major parties? It's not. You are most definitely on the right. Your response to Reed just provides further evidence of this.


    My response was right from the Constitutionalist point of view. It was not from the right. The federal Constitution does not allow this type of spending. Nor does it allow the bureaucracy that develops around it. Spending is enumerated for a reason. Such spending falls under the tenth amendment and as such is left to the state and it's people. This is not what you will hear from the right or the left. Proof is the 16 trillion dollars we are in debt for. We didn't get that far in debt by just the socialist/left like yourself or the fascist'right.

    I am neither, Constitutionalist point of view would be me.


    I am not a Democrat, not a socialist and not a leftist. I am independent.


    P.S.-Blurf would disagree with you, and he's observed my posts for far longer. (About 5 years.) (Not that I agree with his assessment, either, but he did not mean it as an insult, the way you seem to.)

    You perceive inconsistencies where none exist.
    I have stated all along that I am independent.


    You're not inconsistent to me at all...you say you're an independent but you have a very clear conservative slant (not that that is a bad thing).


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70041&postid=1309085
    3817) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1320679)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should remember that we are looking for patterns in nature and their possible numerical representation. An example of such patterns are the cubes in a beehive where honey is being stored.

    As mentioned, 33183434030525011217 equals 73*65657*6923368254097

    Once again, please take a number like 33183434030525011219 for example.

    This number is some 2 higher than the previous one.

    This number is also composite: 7*40543*8610139*13579921

    Also, each of the four composite numbers are again all prime numbers, meaning that 40543 is only divisble by 1 and itself (40543).

    If you try multiply 33183434030525011217 with 33183434030525011219 and then add 1, you end up with an even number.

    1101140294058205391135301533859025843524 equals 2*2*3*3*14633*14633*377952049369291*377952049369291

    These numbers are also prime numbers on their own.

    Oh, what strange. In fact I double-checked this number. What is the next prime number, by the way?

    This number can therefore not be even, but it should be clear that such factorization could return the individual patterns or structures where the complete structure is based on these individual elements.

    In the same way an E.T. could equally well be Battlestar Galactica or the Death Star / Darth Vader's command ship as it could be the shining blue-white "Star Queen Nebula" M16, which is located in the constellation of Serpens Cauda.


    1101140294058205391135301533859025843829
    3818) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1320678)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How does looping my cash through D.C. back to Springfield Il. then down to the person cost cutting. If I loop my cash into these cities they, by bureaucracy apply checks {to themselves} cut my dollar into 23 cents {or less} before it gets back here.

    It would be better for people who are in need to ask for help local, very local, as a matter of fact the more local they more the person will get and with less paper work.

    Example, schools would be funded by property tax {LOL, ya right} that was sent to the county treasurer. That would make the election of the county treasurer of more importance then elected state officials, even federal officials. And if a problem arose you wouldn't have to go to D.C. or Springfield to fix the problem.

    Also, who knows best who is in need of help where I live? D.C.? Springfield? Or us in our own county? If you have answered anything other then county level you are a shill for party not a realist who cares for neighbor.

    If my taxes weren't going for the pay checks of a HUGE bureaucracy...

    ...many more would be cared for correctly.

    From what I understand you as a democrat state are subsidising the Republican states as they tend to get more money back than they pay in taxes.

    You should probably be annoyed about that and ask that the Republican states start to pull their weight and stop free-loading off the Democrat states.

    I am not Left or right. I am a Constitutionalist. Both need to stop begging off the people.


    Since when is Left or Right restricted to the two major parties? It's not. You are most definitely on the right. Your response to Reed just provides further evidence of this.


    My response was right from the Constitutionalist point of view. It was not from the right. The federal Constitution does not allow this type of spending. Nor does it allow the bureaucracy that develops around it. Spending is enumerated for a reason. Such spending falls under the tenth amendment and as such is left to the state and it's people. This is not what you will hear from the right or the left. Proof is the 16 trillion dollars we are in debt for. We didn't get that far in debt by just the socialist/left like yourself or the fascist'right.

    I am neither, Constitutionalist point of view would be me.


    I am not a Democrat, not a socialist and not a leftist. I am independent.
    3819) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1320647)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the topic: did one of the biggest of the gun supporters, Ted Nugent, evade the draft to go to Vietnam?


    Ummm...he admits doing so Sarge

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp


    The Snopes page I read said the exact nature of getting out of it was undetermined. He has given different stories.
    3820) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1320641)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the topic: did one of the biggest of the gun supporters, Ted Nugent, evade the draft to go to Vietnam?
    3821) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1320637)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That would be Design, not chance.


    It would be pure chance which reveals an underlying structure--you may call it design but I could write an equation for the shape of the resulting curve from logic and math. Not so hard to understand if you study probability and statistics and while you are at it throw in a little formal logic. You will be the better man for it !!

    Thanks, but am I not a good man without it? Is it required, to be a better man?

    Either you would be convinced by what many of us have said or have real "weaponry" to use in your debates.
    3822) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1320635)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right after this last national election, I quit being fair and have untied the half of my brain that I had tied in the past to make debating liberals fair.

    Didn't you previously announce some sort of conversion to liberalism around election time?

    And we all knew he was being sarcastic. Demonstrating absurdity by being absurd, indeed.
    3823) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1320634)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right after this last national election, I quit being fair and have untied the half of my brain that I had tied in the past to make debating liberals fair.

    I'm an no longer wanting to be friendly with the mind-numbed robot voters who are successfully destroying this nation through athiesm, socialism, Marxism and communism.

    I no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh. He now listens to me and then repeats what I have to say on over 600 AM radio stations. I don't know how he's doing it because we've never talked.


    Please stay on topic. You were invited here to discuss the gun issues raised in my opening posts.
    3824) Message boards : Politics : What if expanding the safety net is LESS expensive than cutting it? (Message 1320633)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How does looping my cash through D.C. back to Springfield Il. then down to the person cost cutting. If I loop my cash into these cities they, by bureaucracy apply checks {to themselves} cut my dollar into 23 cents {or less} before it gets back here.

    It would be better for people who are in need to ask for help local, very local, as a matter of fact the more local they more the person will get and with less paper work.

    Example, schools would be funded by property tax {LOL, ya right} that was sent to the county treasurer. That would make the election of the county treasurer of more importance then elected state officials, even federal officials. And if a problem arose you wouldn't have to go to D.C. or Springfield to fix the problem.

    Also, who knows best who is in need of help where I live? D.C.? Springfield? Or us in our own county? If you have answered anything other then county level you are a shill for party not a realist who cares for neighbor.

    If my taxes weren't going for the pay checks of a HUGE bureaucracy...

    ...many more would be cared for correctly.

    From what I understand you as a democrat state are subsidising the Republican states as they tend to get more money back than they pay in taxes.

    You should probably be annoyed about that and ask that the Republican states start to pull their weight and stop free-loading off the Democrat states.

    I am not Left or right. I am a Constitutionalist. Both need to stop begging off the people.


    Since when is Left or Right restricted to the two major parties? It's not. You are most definitely on the right. Your response to Reed just provides further evidence of this.
    3825) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : One unanswered question that still allows for the existence of God (Message 1320600)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whether or not the earth is or was perfect for the formation of life was not my point. Especially since our presence here makes that statement obvious. For me, the fact that we have neither created any form of life no found a suitable formula for how that first one celled ameba came to be is sufficient to allow for the possibility of God. If and when man or other intelligent being demonstrates that capability then the need for God is dimenished to nothing.



    Not only would that cell need to be created by man, but it would need to be created with atoms not of this universe.

    You people just don't seem to get it. I have told you over and over again and you still don't seem to get it. WE MIMIC what we see, we create nothing.

    Man will never create from nothing, life, as was done the first time around. We would first need to create atoms. Then monocles, from them atoms. And the design blueprints that are not a duplicate of something that is already here for that cell.

    As I have said--there is no such thing as a simple cell.

    Luck with diminishing God. LOL!


    Monocles from atoms:
    3826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1320589)
    Posted 28 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! love the title.

    (Talk amongst yourselves)


    You get it, man, you get it. Let me award you the Demonella Brouddy Prize.
    3827) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1320329)
    Posted 27 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet?

    Has anyone attempted to? Are you sure it hasn't been done?


    It has indeed been attempted.
    Originally, success was touted.
    Unfortunately, I cannot find anything that still touts it as a success. I guess the beaker was contaminated?
    I do not know where I originally heard of the experiment. I'd like to say "Cosmos", but something tells me I am wrong.

    [EDIT]I guess it was covered in Cosmos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet1xkAv_HY.
    3828) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1320258)
    Posted 27 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With the first indication that you are not a responsible member of society in any way, shape or form ...

    Let ye who is without sin be the first to cast a stone?
    I wonder how many "good guys" become "bad guys"?
    And why is "felony arrest" your apparent criterion for not being a responsible member of society? Not everyone gets caught. Not all irresponsible actions are felonies. Not all people "guilty" of an irresponsible behavior maintain that behavior throughout their lives.
    3829) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1320257)
    Posted 27 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet?

    Why do you believe man should have been able to create a single celled life form, given that the current best approximation suggests it took nature a few hundred million years, and man has been trying to reproduce the event for at most a couple of hundred years?


    bobby

    I didn't say "man should have." How do you know what happened before you became aware? You weren't there so how do you know? What IS nature to you? Is there anything that has been proven to you to your satisfaction without witnessing it?


    Who says you're aware now?
    "Go ask Alice" ... or Reginald Broccoli.
    3830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : As I have posted for many years..... (Message 1320077)
    Posted 26 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3831) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : One unanswered question that still allows for the existence of God (Message 1320064)
    Posted 26 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do believe abiogenesis HAS been discussed.
    3832) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1319954)
    Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ......Are you guys accepting Americans?? :-)

    Yes, we take Americans. There is a skills shortage over here and you do speak English (sorta, kinda) :)

    My wife is American and we came to the agreement that as long as she pronounced Aluminium (Al-yu-min-ee-um) and place names correctly that would suffice. :D

    T.A.


    May I say "Foster's"?
    3833) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1319897)
    Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of Head Scratchers.

    Got a Nano Machine Auto Hair Parter for Christmas.

    Now, I can keep A Perfect Part 24/7/365 and Get Head Scratching to boot!

    Man 'O Live. Christmas Is Cool.

    FO SHO Bro...ahem Heims.

    DEMON...Hair Parted ALL HOT


    3834) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319779)
    Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When they finally figure out how to tell who's well in mind, watch out. You'll find a very small percentage of us are. So, stop throwing around the "another mentally ill guy off his rocker and meds" comments.
    3835) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1319773)
    Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    good reason to require testing of basic knowledge of government functioning before allowing voters anywhere near a ballot box!


    I like it.

    Sample test.

    1. Where does Obama get his "stash" of Obama money from?


    Sales of "The Audacity of Hope". ;)

    2. When the Federal Reserve creates official looking documents using Microsoft Word, prints them on expensive paper, names them U.S. Treasury securities and then sells them on behalf of the Department of the Treasury, what happens to the value of the money currently in circulation?[/quote[

    Oooh, oooh! The opposite of upvalue?
    That is, of course, assuming they actually use Microsoft Word and expensive paper. Did you work at the Treasury after your stint in the pot-smoking, Satan-worshipping A.F., but before your teaching career?

    [quote]3. Name the branches of the government.


    Goodness, this a tough one.
    Ummm ...
    Executive
    um ...
    Legislative
    ummm...
    and Jugularlicial?

    4. Which branch of govenrnment has the authority to decide how to spend money?


    Errr, Leggywomenturnmeonaslaveit?

    5. True or False? The U.S. government has been operating on a constitutionally approved budget since President Obama has been in office.


    The last-time the Congress has agreed on a budget, under either majority, occurred when ... ?

    6. In a few sentences, describe the difference between deficit and debt.


    Deficit - debt = {f,i,c,i,t}, while debt - deficit = {b,t}.

    7. What is the U.S.'s current budget deficit? (round to the two most significant digits)


    42.

    8. How many zeros are in "one trillion"?


    In the US system,
    three zeros = thousands
    six zeros = a pair of three zeros = millions
    nine zeors = three triple zeros = billions
    and twelve zeros = a quaduplet of three zeros = trillions

    However, since tri = three and bi = two,

    this naming system is illogical.
    I hope it was not The Founders who dreamt up this naming system.

    9. What is the U.S.'s current debt? (round to the three most significant digits)


    420.

    10. When the government borrows money it pays interest. How much did the U.S. government pay in interest last year?


    0. We don't pay our stinkin' debts!

    [quote]11. How many years would it take for you, personally, to pay off the national debt as of the static number last year based on how much you paid in federal income tax last year? (round to the nearest 1,000 years)[/url]

    1
    3836) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1319769)
    Posted 25 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Saw a pic of the Webster Whack Job.

    Man 'O Live. Like looking In The Mirror at meself.

    Age is A MO FO. FO SHO.

    Can't remember if his hair is parted. Well, guess it depends how he let the Final Round Fly. he a he a he.

    Lady said 80 Million Moms are not going to let 5 Mil NRA members push them around. Flex it Momma.

    Tiny Bubbles Broheim. Tiny Bubbles. When I was stationed at Pearl, I watched a guy in a bar play his uke and sing Tiny Bubbles.

    Memories. Like when I parted my hair in The 60s.

    DEMON...I Remember HOT



    You're right, people don't part their hair anymore.
    Can we keep him distracted?
    May the odds
    be ever in your favor
    in 2013.
    3837) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1319727)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    5 there is no such thing as an unloaded gun refer to 2.

    All guns magically load themselves the instant they are out of sight. No really they do. That or some other idiot is waiting in the wings to do it.


    This cannot be correct. We reject magicks, so it must've been God.
    3838) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319726)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let me ask you statists something.

    Why do we need city, county and state governments if we have a federal government?

    (Careful, it's a trick question. No matter how you answer it, I'll have you verbally cornered.)


    Careful, a statist is a statist, not a fedist or a nationallst. ;)
    3839) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1319725)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And soon, hopefully a limit on magazine capacity.


    Yes, getting shot from a 10 round magazine is much less fatal than being shot with a 30 round magazine.

    It is a lot more difficult to shoot 26 people with a 10 round magazine than a 30 round one.


    It's not a lot more difficult to shoot 30 rounds from 3 10-round magazines than from one 30-round magazine.

    (MAGAZINE, not CLIP. A CLIP is used to LOAD MAGAZINES faster--for all you anti-gun nut experts.)


    No, a "clip" is short for "roach clip", well known by pot smoking Satan-worshipping A.F. newbies in the mid-to-late '80s.
    3840) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1319701)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sounds like a Al Qaeda attack.

    Fire good at destruction of evidence, or so felony stupid thinks.

    Ah, new news. Seems it was an ambush.
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/24/16125861-4-volunteer-firefighters-shot-2-killed-in-apparent-trap?lite

    Now was that suicide by cop?


    It was another senseless tragedy.

    The shooter is dead.

    Two civic duty minded public servants are now dead. Why? We'll never know.

    Is it because ...


    What evidence do you have for any of these?
    Ever been to Webster, NY? Know what's it people are like? Ridden the snowmobiles with them over to the tavern for a good ole Irish drink? Enjoyed some of their venison? No? I have.



    Here's a nice little home in Webster. Funny, I even knew a road name to search for.
    3841) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1319673)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas Prices, down below $3. Man 'O Liveee.

    Oh My. Me Produces Lots 'O Gas, not use much. Start of Life me dranks Coke One, end of Life me rotses me teeth and drink Milk I. Tasty.

    So, Hobbitsesey', CONS PO Folks whosa readed yousa postses Again, was askin' FO NUTTIN, NOT DOUBLIN' of gas producded by ur posts.

    Wha'sup Wid Dat? Bro.....ahem... uddy?

    CONS Votes Is Costly. Oh My.

    No posts and No coke zero FO Da Kitties.

    You Gets Whats You posts FO. FO SHO.

    When Is The Post, Going To Equal The Hype?

    Got Death after life? Etc. Etc. Etc.

    ...HOT air In Life, But No coke zero and Milk
    3842) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : 2012 - real or not? (Message 1319670)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps some of those who believed in this apocalypse will now have learned to apply reason to extraordinary claims; examining them with real care. If so, this incident will not have been for nought.

    Whatever happened to that American Apocalyptic Pastor after his non-apocalypse earlier this year?

    Is he still on the scene?...


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping
    3843) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319518)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did anyone else watch David Gregory wave a 30 round mag on Meet the Press this morning? Did he or the producers of the show get fined or jailtime for doing that considering its against the law in DC to have possession of such an item even if it's not installed into a weapon.


    David Gregory? "Meet the Press"?
    Oh, isn't that on crappy liberal NBC?
    Nah, no one here watches that crap.
    3844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let it snow! (But go away promptly!) (Message 1319493)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess Sarge the PRO .. tagonist? knows the answers to all the questions.

    He is the scientist here. Please give me more, I love this stuff.


    I also reject clairvoyance.
    3845) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319487)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108505 Words from "conservative intelligentsia member" William F. Buckley, Jr.

    William F. Buckley, Jr.
    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/w...20020410.shtml
    April 10, 2002

    Exit gun control

    News stories from around the nation identifying gun control as a trip-wire issue dividing conservatives and liberals don't surprise. The events of Sept. 11 have heightened the resolution of the "individual rights" interpreters of the Second Amendment. These are distinguished from the "collective rights" faction. The former stare the language in the face and come away with a reading different from the collective crowd.

    At issue is the interpretation of a single sentence: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Opponents of comprehensive gun-control laws view this as a constitutional guarantee of the right of Americans to own guns. An easy way to put it is that they view the amendment as if the initial clause were irrelevant, leaving us simply with a guarantee against federal gun control that challenges the right of citizens to own weapons.


    By contrast, of course, there are those (roughly speaking, the nation's intelligentsia) who insist that the Second Amendment goes no further than to say that Congress may not legislate against the right of individual states to organize militias of arms-bearing citizens.


    The learned arguments go on and on. The gun-control lobby has suffered two severe blows in the recent period. One of them is that professor Laurence Tribe of Harvard, much esteemed by American liberals in part because of his enthusiasm for abortion rights, having examined the historical documents, opines that indeed the people who framed the Bill of Rights intended to guarantee individual, not merely collective, gun-ownership rights. And the 5th Circuit ruled in the same direction in United States v. Emerson.


    As with other contentions requiring constitutional interpretation, the division over gun control is only one part historical: What did the framers intend? Another, more significant part, is political: What does the American public want? But it's better, and safer, to ask the question: What do the American people reasonably want?


    It probably could be established by polling that the American people would be happy to hang anybody who burns the U.S. flag, but such sentiments are not likely to be codified. It's more fruitful to argue reasonable limitations on gun ownership. A comic routine in Las Vegas in 1980 featured a debate between presidential contenders Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter on the matter of gun control, Walter Cronkite presiding.


    "What about atom bombs, Governor Reagan? Do you believe the Constitution guarantees the right of individuals to have atom bombs?"


    "Well, Mr. Cronkite," the comedian answered pensively, "just small atom bombs."


    The assertion of a right at ridiculous lengths -- the absolutization of it, in the manner of the American Civil Liberties Union -- is a way of undermining it. If the Constitution says you can say anything you want under any circumstances, then you can shout "fire" in a crowded movie theater. If you have the right to remain silent in all circumstances, then you can decline to give testimony vital to another citizen's freedom and rights. If you insist that a citizen has the right to own a machine gun, you discredit his right to own a pistol or a rifle.


    What ripened in the aftermath of Sept. 11 was a sensibility of the individual citizen's dependence, at the margin, on his own resources. George Will put it pithily (as ever), when he asked, Call for a cop, an ambulance and a pizza, and ask which is likelier to get to you first. A rifle in the closet wouldn't have been useful against the swooping 767s that struck the Twin Towers. But a sense of the implications of chaos and anarchy was sharpened. An analyst 20 years ago remarked that an 82-year-old couple living in an apartment in the Bronx, after twice being assaulted, found it possible to sleep at night only after acquiring a pistol and advertising its presence on a note pinned to the outside door.


    Both sides will find it useful to temper extreme expressions of their positions. But it is certainly true that at this moment it is likelier that members of Congress running for election or re-election in November will not press the collective interpretation of the Second Amendment.


    William F. Buckley, Jr. is editor of National Review, a TownHall.com member group.


    There you have it. Debate against your guy.
    3846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Let it snow! (But go away promptly!) (Message 1319477)
    Posted 24 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We got a little bit of a break. Great thing is that the temp is nearing 40°F so everything we've accumulated over the last week is starting to disappear! However, we're due for a weeklong hammering.


    Giorgio has called on the aliens to make it snow over your area. He will then mop it up with his hair.
    3847) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319413)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. Maybe Glenn Beck can help me with the correct translations of late 18th century speech, instead? Certainly, this guy has it wrong. Right, rights?

    Who here has alluded to this quote?


    I have seen it "elsewhere".
    We have seen several other quotes appearing "elsewhere" being repeated here.
    So, when I debate "elsewhere", I tend to share the same information here.

    ok, just trying to clarify the point you are trying to make.


    This is an "independent" thread for discussion of the US gun issues, created after the locking of another, and before the creation of two other such threads.
    The opening post is a response to something Gary Charpentier has brought up twice.
    3848) Message boards : Politics : Christmas Opportunity (Message 1319396)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Holidays = holy days.
    People with no religion should simply say "Happy Vacation." :)
    As an agnostic, I'm tempted to do this myself.
    3849) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319394)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. Maybe Glenn Beck can help me with the correct translations of late 18th century speech, instead? Certainly, this guy has it wrong. Right, rights?

    Who here has alluded to this quote?


    I have seen it "elsewhere".
    We have seen several other quotes appearing "elsewhere" being repeated here.
    So, when I debate "elsewhere", I tend to share the same information here.
    3850) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1319392)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clairvoyance...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance

    You know, science is not only Seti@home and PrimeGrid (numbers all the way). Remember that we are dreaming while we are sleeping. It is soon forgotten.

    The task which are up to scientists is to understand and explain is about everything we know (and do not know) in this Universe.

    UFO's is one such subject. Seti@home is not looking for these things or trying to explain them either, it is looking for signals from space which may indicate that humans or humankind is not the only intelligent civilization in existence.

    So are UFO's perhaps rather angels - and not someone visiting us from other star systems? Extraterrestrial visitors most likely are much more advanced than we are.

    On the Kardashev scale, we rank some 0.84. Other civilizations may be Type 1, Type 2, or maybe even Type 3, the latter type may indicate that they may not be detected at all - they are too advanced.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

    Also I could have written "measurement itself" in the previous post for better clearance or clarification.


    You are not addressing the topic.
    We can see that ID frequently state chance cannot be a factor, or even that chance does not exist.
    To say one believes in chance is to say we believe there are "random events", events that we cannot predict the outcome of, from trial to trial, but often we can see patterns in the long run.
    To reject chance is to say that we can, with enough information, predict each outcome, each time. In other words, become clairvoyant.
    Yet ID has also rejected clairvoyance.
    3851) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319384)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. Maybe Glenn Beck can help me with the correct translations of late 18th century speech, instead? Certainly, this guy has it wrong. Right, rights?
    3852) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319336)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the National Review online http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/336338/columbine-had-armed-guard-daniel-foster# (associated with the magazine of William F. Buckley?)
    That’s right, but it isn’t like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris’s gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan — a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris.
    So, how does that fit with those claiming the guard "was not on campus"?
    3853) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319199)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    George H.W. Bush was outraged by LaPierre and quit the NRA?
    3854) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319198)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Liberals liked the idea of armed cops in schools before?
    3855) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1319189)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chance cannot be a factor.

    Clairvoyance cannot be a factor.
    3856) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319182)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why conservatism RULES!
    3857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Discussion of discussion threads (Message 1319181)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm all fahrklempt.
    3858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319155)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    "Dave's not here, man!" (Aliens took him?)
    3859) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319147)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I fixed your link--again.


    You need not remind me of the movie I was treated to for my 19th birthday.
    3860) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319134)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    During the war of 1812 it was the ARMED CITIZEN that won the war for us USING arms that was EQUAL to that of an army. And the USE of GORILLA warfare was the defining tactic in that war.

    My case and point made.

    I win---you ALL lost.

    Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller?... Bueller?


    Fixed your link. AGAIN!
    3861) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319128)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You'll feel safer if everyone, even me, are armed?

    I really don't give a damn what goes on in YOUR Country.

    I'm 30 minutes from the border.

    Ola


    And you pretty much kicked our tushies in 1812 ;)

    That was ENGLAND, and they won a BATTLE, not the war. Please learn correct history.

    They were Brits from Canada. Just like me.

    She does know her history.

    LOL! In 1814 it Canada was part of the Crown/Empire, not a independent nation as it is now. Get your history correct. LOL!

    Never said it wasn't.

    Ya manyuk!
    3862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319120)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What no Starbuck?

    Classic or reimagined?

    Either, doesn't matter at this point.


    "'Phone'! It's what they use to communicate!"
    3863) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1319117)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Never pass in the House of Reps.


    LOL@lazy House of Reps, stealing our money for their unearned salaries. They're going to get fired soon.
    3864) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319115)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx

    Interesting. The only way I can see it applying to the US is if you also consider the US a war zone.

    Is the US a war zone?


    Shall we use these message boards as evidence for or against? :)

    :p


    So, how is life down there in Cabo Wabo these days?
    Are you still dating post-Van Halen Sammy Hagar?
    3865) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319114)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You'll feel safer if everyone, even me, are armed?

    I really don't give a damn what goes on in YOUR Country.

    I'm 30 minutes from the border.

    Ola


    And you pretty much kicked our tushies in 1812 ;)

    That was ENGLAND, and they won a BATTLE, not the war. Please learn correct history.

    They were Brits from Canada. Just like me.

    She does know her history.


    You mean Mehico!
    Ola!
    3866) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1319112)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You'll feel safer if everyone, even me, are armed?

    I really don't give a damn what goes on in YOUR Country.

    I'm 30 minutes from the border.

    Ola

    So? Your point?


    Senor, do you have any Papel Higenico por favor?
    (Can you spare a square?)
    3867) Message boards : Politics : This is what I believe........UFOs. (Message 1319103)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh my, don't tell me about the Annunaki...Some kind of story...


    So sit back and lemme tell you a story, about a 3 hour cruise star trekkin' across the universe, McCoy, Spock and Captain Kirk on a mission, 'cuz they thought (as taught in school that) JFK was some kind of jerk. But that hypocite smoked 3 packs a day! BUSTED!
    3868) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1319100)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx

    Interesting. The only way I can see it applying to the US is if you also consider the US a war zone.

    Is the US a war zone?


    Shall we use these message boards as evidence for or against? :)
    3869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319099)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What no Starbuck?

    Classic or reimagined?
    3870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319070)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The hills are alive
    with the sound
    of Ancient Aliens!"

    "Ray, a thing I shoot outta my phaser."
    3871) Message boards : Politics : This is what I believe........UFOs. (Message 1319068)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are many conspiracy theories, non proven.


    No, no! I've proven this one! Really! It was even foretold in the Book of the Annunaki!
    3872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319064)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man, if there are aliens, they are gonna be SOOO pissed the thread originator spelled it ailens.
    3873) Message boards : Politics : This is what I believe........UFOs. (Message 1319063)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    UFOs assassinated Kennedy!



    Euh...I thought that was Oswald?



    I found a few files on ... someone else's computer. He thought they were deleted. But, it turns out Oswald was/is Giorgio!
    3874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319056)
    Posted 23 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't want to be 60. I might be a curmudgeonly old nellanomed by then!

    I'll give you some lessons on how to avoid it. As I know you, you'll get 10% discount.

    ;-)


    So, I can get lessons on how to avoid being a udll morw nidwar?
    3875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319034)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By MALCOLM W. BROWNE
    Published: March 12, 1998


    Some 14 years ago. It is now known the asteroid XF11 will pass the Earth on October 26, 2028, at a distance of 0.0062 AU (930,000 km; 580,000 mi), about 2.4 times the Earth-Moon distance, and pose no hazard.

    I'll likely not be here, so good luck to the rest of you :-)


    Thanks Chris, I'll be here most likely, if My health doesn't do more than drip some blood sometimes...



    Let's just say we'll all be here:)


    I don't want to. I don't want to be 60. I might be a curmudgeonly old nellanomed by then!
    3876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319031)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, the guy with the jacked up hair do that either hosted or had cameos is nearly every single rediculous apocolyptic and ailen abduction show on H2 (cause it's too stupid for the regular history channel). Is he unemployed now that he cant make yet another show on the history channel telling of how the world ended today?


    Dude, the guy with a cameo on almost every show is NOT Giorgio. It's the guy with the pony tail and ugly mole on his left cheek, the fan of Nah-Im-Just-a-Dummazz. Instead of asking silly questions, google it or tune in. You would have seen Giorgio last night. No, he's not unemployed. LOL.
    3877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319029)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Sending a police sting after ya! :)
    3878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319028)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, the guy with the jacked up hair do ...

    Dude. Dropping the J-bomb? What the H-bomb is up with that?!?
    3879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319025)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wacky new age spiritualist debunks other wacky things.
    3880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Ailens guy (Message 1319023)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, the guy with the jacked up hair do that either hosted or had cameos is nearly every single rediculous apocolyptic and ailen abduction show on H2 (cause it's too stupid for the regular history channel). Is he unemployed now that he cant make yet another show on the history channel telling of how the world ended today?


    Ah, I see. So, you think "Pawn Stars" and "American Pickers" is the height of intelligence. "Ancient Aliens" has amuch greater entertainment factor than either of them, or combined. :)
    3881) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318996)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello.
    If only more people had balanced hemispheres. :)
    3882) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1318995)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/281934646038650880

    Eric CantorVerified ‏@GOPLeader

    The House of Representatives has concluded legislative business for the week. The House will return after the Christmas holiday when needed.


    You voted him in, and you pay his salary.
    3883) Message boards : Politics : This is what I believe........UFOs. (Message 1318991)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    UFOs assassinated Kennedy!
    3884) Message boards : Politics : Firearms. Who or what is dangerous? (Message 1318990)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't time your waste with these toilet paper (Higenico Papel) threads. The at is independent topic thread thinkers' thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70354.
    3885) Message boards : Politics : NRA and school security. (Message 1318988)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't waste you time with these guys. The independent thinker's' thread on this topic is at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70354.
    3886) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1318977)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can't talk about a nation if you can't tell the difference between a city (5 burros) and the state of the same name that contains it.
    3887) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318974)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23572/Default.aspx
    3888) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1318939)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Simple New York ... .

    You have a problem with New York? Bring it!
    3889) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1318937)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More conspiracy theory bunk. Your same statement has bneen made many a time in many another fashion. This stuff that you know more than others on this simply isn't true or you wouldn't "slip" and say "too much". Either lay out what you know or let it wash, man.


    +42 to Blurf! :)
    3890) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318935)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://jewishpreppers.com/2012/12/are-israeli-teachers-armed/
    3891) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318931)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=254616


    Unbeknown to Pearl at the time, the men who picked him up had no intention of setting up any interview - let alone with Gilani, whom they did not know. The promise of meeting the Pakistani militant had been a hastily thrown together ruse to lure him into a fairly simple trap. The Islamist kidnappers wanted to use him in order to seek the release of captured militants and terrorists being held by the United States in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    The kidnapping plot was amateur, despite being ultimately fatal. The kidnappers did not even know how to operate the cameras and computers needed to make their demands.

    The red Suzuki Swift, with Pearl in the front seat, made its way out of Karachi toward an isolated safe house an hour away. When they arrived, Pearl was ushered out at gunpoint and told to hand over his belongings and disrobe. Still unaware of his hosts’ true intentions, he warily believed the increasingly hostile actions of his kidnappers were simply security measures for the high profile terrorist cleric he was supposed to meet. An hour or two later, after telling him they were bringing food, one of the kidnappers chained Pearl to an old car engine.


    Wait! Wait! What? They needed guns to kidnap him, before they coould behead him?
    3892) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318926)
    Posted 22 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/sca/rls/rm/8784.htm

    The additional indictment against Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, being unsealed today, makes clear that Daniel Pearl was not the first American to fall victim to terror at the hands of Saeed. In October 1994, the indictment charges, Saeed met Bela J. Nuss, an American tourist, at a restaurant in New Delhi while scouting areas of the city known to be frequented by U.S. citizens and other Westerners. As in the case of Daniel Pearl, Saeed carefully selected Nuss, used lies to befriend him, and lured him to an isolated place where he was kidnapped at gunpoint. Also like the case of Daniel Pearl, Nuss was held in brutal isolation and photographed with a gun pointed at his head while Saeed and his co-conspirators communicated their demands to the media.


    Nah, you don't need a gun to behead somebody.


    Ha ha ha. No responses, eh? Lame, having to open two new other threads to debate the topic.
    3893) Message boards : Politics : I think some from other countries do not underand our bill of rights. (Message 1318231)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I lost a brother to suicide ...

    Enough is enough.
    That does not give you oneupsmanship on grief or knowledge of our country.
    It'd be like a guy, who when he was 7 years old, witnessed his own mother's suicide attempt claiming HE had the corner on grief, and to talk anyway he wanted, and to make any claim he wished about the state of our country.
    It's time for you to stop playing that card. Enough is enough.
    3894) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1318221)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't understand this, anybody got idea's why NI and Fox are not facing shutdown asap.

    Well, was a law broken? AFIK it doesn't sound like any money changed hands.

    Anyone can urge anyone to run for any office. Anyone can offer to run a campaign. As to bankrolling it, post Citizens United, even that is likely 100% legal.

    Its still ok to be outraged at destructive legal things, and outraged at destructive laws.


    However, that was not what WinterKnight implied. He asked or suggested if it was illegal. Both Gary and I have indicated that, to the best of our knowledge, it is not.
    3895) Message boards : Politics : I think some from other countries do not underand our bill of rights. (Message 1318182)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad. The Rule of Law was made for ALL and is what we ALL agree to as a FRAMEWORK for our LAW. NEVER to be broken for any reason! THAT is why they all swear an OATH to uphold the LAW before GOD and COUNTRY. What is damn SAD is that YOU don't get it!

    This is why a third Party is NEEDED and a Party that WILL uphold and demand that the LAW is upheld!

    There is NO compromise on the Rule of Law. What is NOT within the Rule of Law is up to the states and the people within that state, such things have NOTHING to do with the Federal Government at all and MUST be passed back down to the state for them to make up THEIR minds on how best to deal with it. And HERE is where virtue comes to play. The federal government MUST understand that it is not "within the Constitution", that takes virtue. Then that MUST passed down and it MUST be OUT of their hands. Then the state must act, or choose to pass it down to the county. They (federal elected and judicial) have become Dictators and THAT is TREASON!

    You make excuse for what is done to the Rule of Law. That is what is sad.


    Be "quite".
    3896) Message boards : Politics : Independents' thread for discussing gun issues (Message 1318157)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/sca/rls/rm/8784.htm

    The additional indictment against Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, being unsealed today, makes clear that Daniel Pearl was not the first American to fall victim to terror at the hands of Saeed. In October 1994, the indictment charges, Saeed met Bela J. Nuss, an American tourist, at a restaurant in New Delhi while scouting areas of the city known to be frequented by U.S. citizens and other Westerners. As in the case of Daniel Pearl, Saeed carefully selected Nuss, used lies to befriend him, and lured him to an isolated place where he was kidnapped at gunpoint. Also like the case of Daniel Pearl, Nuss was held in brutal isolation and photographed with a gun pointed at his head while Saeed and his co-conspirators communicated their demands to the media.


    Nah, you don't need a gun to behead somebody.
    3897) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1317979)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Incoherent.

    That's what alcohol does, especially the kind bought with food stamps.
    3898) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1317964)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From Twitter:

    Eric CantorVerified ‏@GOPLeader

    The House of Representatives has concluded legislative business for the week. The House will return after the Christmas holiday when needed.


    People that THINK they are working men voted for this guy.
    People that ARE working men tweeted to him, calling him lazy and suggesting he get back to work.
    3899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1317959)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Next, I show the world the Camelot style dance, where I look like I'm riding an invisible horsey! Muah ha ha! NI!!!"
    3900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1317958)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Muah ha ha, they thought a fly couldn't take over the table, but I did. Now, what next? Muah ha ha!"
    3901) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1317956)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +4 to the kitty man...

    -100 to the kitty man
    and -1*100^2 to the designer.
    3902) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1317952)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In todays Guardian there is a story - Why the US media ignored Murdoch's brazen bid to hijack the presidency. That says the Owner of News International, who has had to close the News of the World in the UK over the phone hacking scandal, tried to get Fox News which is his US News Channel to get Gen. David H. Petraeus to stand for the Republican nomination.

    The main worry is that the Washington Post who broke the story, and who apparently have a digital recording of the conversation, didn't put it on their Front Page. They consigned it to the Style section. WP - Style - Fox News chief’s failed attempt to enlist Petraeus as presidential candidate

    I don't understand this, anybody got idea's why NI and Fox are not facing shutdown asap.


    I'm sorry, but how is getting someone to run equal to buying the presidency?!?
    There are no laws about one person trying to convince another person to run,
    3903) Message boards : Politics : Did Murdoch try to buy the Presidency (Message 1317950)
    Posted 21 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In todays Guardian there is a story - Why the US media ignored Murdoch's brazen bid to hijack the presidency. That says the Owner of News International, who has had to close the News of the World in the UK over the phone hacking scandal, tried to get Fox News which is his US News Channel to get Gen. David H. Petraeus to stand for the Republican nomination.

    The main worry is that the Washington Post who broke the story, and who apparently have a digital recording of the conversation, didn't put it on their Front Page. They consigned it to the Style section. WP - Style - Fox News chief’s failed attempt to enlist Petraeus as presidential candidate

    I don't understand this, anybody got idea's why NI and Fox are not facing shutdown asap.

    Uhhh...
    OBAMA bought the presidency.

    With my tax dollars.
    Catering to the lowest level of people in this country he could convince and buy their votes. The takers.
    Those who were quite content to take his handouts and not ready to get off their arses and work for a living. The public dole. His supporters. His vote.
    The WORKING man in this country is going to flex their muscle soon. They are NOT going to continue to take Obama's Robin Hood attitude.
    He shall some day soon have to grapple with the fact that it's not 'The problem is we have too little income', but that he cannot go around splashing cash at his minority support groups at the expense of those who really make this country run. It's not that the government has too little income, it's that they spend too much.

    Best not to get me going right now.


    Given the inordinately high amount of posting you do, I question how much and how hard you work. In the meantime, stand back, I am flexing my muscles.
    3904) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1317471)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


    I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

    How very Christian of you.

    I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


    You Christian?

    I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

    You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

    My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

    Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.


    Actions, not words.


    Fixed your link.
    3905) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1317466)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +2^omega (aka aleph_nought) = c to:

    BarryAZ
    Betreger
    Blurf
    Bobby
    Chris S
    Es99
    Ex
    Gary Charpentier
    KWSN MajorKong
    OzzFan
    Sirius B
    Skildude
    Soft Spirit

    And while I have forgotten some that deserve, there a certain definite omissions. ;) To those of you omitted, I'm sorry you missed the November 6 Rapture.
    3906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1317441)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Jeb swore it'd be a cold day in ... before he'd ever get his trusty blue 4 wheel drive three-quarters submerged in ice and snow>"
    3907) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1317438)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... and the key is to never give anyone more power than the people.


    No, no, NO! Revoke the 17th Amendment!!!
    3908) Message boards : Politics : Full time working (Message 1317433)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Federal employees here in the U.S. work 40 hours/week. Work is defined as "being at your duty location." Doesn't matter if you're playing video games or not. You just can't be seen leaving the building until the second hand passes the 12 on the clock.


    I'm pretty sure he's talking about his time in the military. Glad video games supplanted our nation's defense!!!
    3909) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1317431)
    Posted 20 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think it's about more gun control. I grew up in the south with gun's everywhere and we never shot anyone. This (shooting) is about people who aren't taught the value of life.
    ~Samuel L. Jackson


    I CAN'T WAIT FOR ANOTHER HOLLYWOOD ACTOR TO LECTURE ME ON THE REASONS WHEN ...

    (Note: supposed similar Morgan Freeman statement debunked.)

    Samuel L. Jackson is as much a spokesman on this as Ted Danson was on race relations.

    Or Danson on the environment, lol.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2007/11/13/danson_i_lied_oceans_didn_t_die2

    RUSH ARCHIVE: They're always making me justify my existence. I wish they'd do that to Hollywood celebrities who claim to be oceanographers and so forth. "Mr. Danson, Mr. Danson, what do you mean we've only got ten years left on earth unless we do -- what's -- what's -- what's your source?" They never do. They just -- whatever Ted Danson or Whoopi Goldberg, any of these other Hollywood celebs say, they just accept it as gospel. When I say it, "Prove it! Where did you get that information? You have no right to say that. You're just a racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe pig."

    RUSH: That's how the media reacts to me, "You can't say that, prove it!" Ted Danson makes these claims, "Oh, oh, he cares so much." Well, last Friday on CNBC's High Net Worth, the reporterette Jane Wells interviewed Ted Danson, and she said, "There was a time when you said the oceans are going to be dead in ten years. They're not dead?"

    DANSON: No. They're not. But, I'm sure there was some hyperbole in what I said to draw attention to the issue, but you go to science journals now, 70% of the world's fisheries are at a point of collapse.

    RUSH: Really? Oh, you lied, it was just hyperbole. So now after being proven to have lied, but, but, but 70% of the ocean's fisheries or the world's fisheries or whatever are at a point of collapse, 70%. So he's been proven wrong, throws another figure out there, wow, we're in trouble, oh, no, 70% of the world's fisheries are closed. So Jane Wells then said -- well, the answer she reported after -- "Danson says some people have wondered, why listen to an actor? They make fun of celebrities taking up causes. He gets that."

    DANSON: Celebrities can be silly, we can take swipes at them, and what the heck, why not, we are silly. But we do raise money. You know something, this community raises more money for charity than any other community in the world. This community is so generous.

    WELLS: He says over the years he's probably given $3 million of his own money to the Oceans Campaign, and just last week he flew to Geneva to urge the World Trade Organization to lift subsidies which may result in overfishing.

    DANSON: I do want to be engaged in the process. I do not want to be victimized, or embarrassed, or guilty that I haven't done something during this really critical time.

    RUSH: So, once again, after being proved wrong about the death of the oceans, he remains an expert, he remains a go-to guy. Why? Because he donates so much to charity to the oceans. He threw $3 million down the drain if he donated it to an ocean charity. The idea we can control the oceans is about as absurd as being able to control the climate! Anyway, I just think that just illustrates the point. Celebs are silly, he admits all this, and yet we know that you people are going to take us seriously because we're like the big clique in high school, and you all wish you were in our group.

    END TRANSCRIPT


    Let's also consider some other things Samuel L. Jackson recently said. Warning! Extreme Language (Profanity).
    3910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1316653)
    Posted 18 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "This new morphing technology is so cool! They'll never figure out I'm really a dog."
    3911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What are you listening to this morning? (Message 1316363)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alone in the Dark.
    3912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1316314)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Hard kitty,
    cold kitty.
    Knotted ball of fur.
    Angry kitty,
    cranky kitty.
    Grrr, grrr, grrr.
    3913) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1316312)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How is Fox news the news channel of the Repubicans and the NRA going to respond to their owners tweet.

    ‘‘Terrible news today. When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy,’’ Mr Murdoch said.


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64890&postid=1316285

    Fox News has had nothing on the shooting, because they do not sensationalize, and are not part of the media problem raising killers to fame status.

    P.S.-and Mike Huckabee did NOT just raise the "violent video games" question.
    3914) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1316302)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Is that how YOUR God would respond? With sarcasm?
    If there is a God, God cried Friday.
    Furthermore, are you suggesting that legislation is capable of stopping children from praying privately at school?
    3915) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Comet Next year (Message 1316287)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I remember back in 1957 I was out back yard in a dark area seeing my first comet, oh it was so far away. I showed my brother and mother, I was tickled pink. Next mornings paper ( New Comet Discovered ) "and my name wasn't on it". LOL I now have a pair of 25 X 100 and have yet see another one.


    Were you not able to see Hale Bopp in 1997?
    3916) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1316285)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I told you! http://www.businessinsider.com/rupert-murdoch-gun-control-newtown-ct-school-shooting-2012-12. Just wait for the Koch Brothers to chime in. ("In 1996, Murdoch decided to enter the cable news market with the Fox News Channel.")
    Yep, the guy that started Fox News is the guy that's coming after your guns.
    3917) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1316275)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Gary" wrote:
    "Es" wrote:
    So why doesn't it have a mental health service?

    Funny thing is it used to. Then bleeding heart do gooders came along.

    Then the bleeding heart do-gooders came along and made it so the Jew, the Muslim, the Buddhist and the Atheist didn't have to put up with Nativity scense, and blue laws that prevented them from shopping at Wal Mart 24/7.
    Then the bleeding heart do-gooders came along to the defense of your transgender friend.
    What experience do you have with mentally ill people?
    Rather than refusal of treatment being the norm of the day, they change the name from manic depression to bipolar, and people are very open about telling you they have it and what different medications are being tried.
    3918) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1316265)
    Posted 17 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not giving links here but if you look up church-goers by state and firearms deaths by state, there are some interesting similarities.

    Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi appear in the top ten on both lists.

    When you are ordered to be ethical because of a mythical god it is easy to discard ethics, especially when your religion encourages sin by saying a few prayers and you will be saved again.
    When you self discover ethics as an atheist does, it is much harder to discard ethics as it is part of you. Atheism doesn't have exceptions.


    5 yea old kid's parents take him to church, where they say "Thou shalt not steal."
    But 5 year old kid wants that toy car.
    So, he takes it from his fellow 5 year old.
    Fellow 5 year pounds the crap out of him.
    First 5 year old kid learns that "Thou shalt not steal" idea is a good one, though later in life may wonder about its sources.
    Armchair Christians and armchair Atheists, on the other hand, still battle it out, particularly over the Internet.
    3919) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1315328)
    Posted 15 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here, you have the USAs greatest thinkers.
    They do not say things that have already been said, and most certainly not arguments along party lines.
    Which is why they have already solved the problems.
    And today did not happen.
    3920) Message boards : Politics : Obama sending troops to Turkey (Message 1315117)
    Posted 14 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your solution is to just dissolve NATO.
    3921) Message boards : Politics : A letter from Thomas Jefferson that reads like it was written for today. (Message 1315003)
    Posted 14 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."


    -Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)

    +1

    Not sure I've seen anybody +1 their own post before, is this an indication of dissociative identity disorder?

    Just a new concept based in creativity. The more ID posts the more we know about him, I enjoy the novel ideas.


    You act as if the S@H fora are the only places you can find these.
    This also is a novel idea.
    At least when these ideas are espoused by people you know offline, there is opportunity for discussion and the finding of common ground. Even friendship.
    Such possibilities here are few and far between.
    3922) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1314485)
    Posted 13 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No such thing as clairvoyance.
    Hence, chance exists.
    3923) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Prejudice v. Science: When Theory Trumps Hard Evidence (Message 1314123)
    Posted 12 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did Darwin opine on infallibility? Is that your question?


    I was wondering whether Darwin stated that there was no God involved in Evolution.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin#Religious_views

    Religious views
    For more details on this topic, see Charles Darwin's religious views.

    In 1851 Darwin was devastated when his daughter Annie died. By then his faith in Christianity had dwindled, and he had stopped going to church.[155]

    Darwin's family tradition was nonconformist Unitarianism, while his father and grandfather were freethinkers, and his baptism and boarding school were Church of England.[19] When going to Cambridge to become an Anglican clergyman, he did not doubt the literal truth of the Bible.[24] He learned John Herschel's science which, like William Paley's natural theology, sought explanations in laws of nature rather than miracles and saw adaptation of species as evidence of design.[26][27] On board the Beagle, Darwin was quite orthodox and would quote the Bible as an authority on morality.[156] He looked for "centres of creation" to explain distribution,[48] and related the antlion found near kangaroos to distinct "periods of Creation".[50]

    By his return he was critical of the Bible as history, and wondered why all religions should not be equally valid.[156] In the next few years, while intensively speculating on geology and transmutation of species, he gave much thought to religion and openly discussed this with Emma, whose beliefs also came from intensive study and questioning.[85] The theodicy of Paley and Thomas Malthus vindicated evils such as starvation as a result of a benevolent creator's laws which had an overall good effect. To Darwin, natural selection produced the good of adaptation but removed the need for design,[157] and he could not see the work of an omnipotent deity in all the pain and suffering such as the ichneumon wasp paralysing caterpillars as live food for its eggs.[131] He still viewed organisms as perfectly adapted, and On the Origin of Species reflects theological views. Though he thought of religion as a tribal survival strategy, Darwin was reluctant to give up the idea of God as an ultimate lawgiver. He was increasingly troubled by the problem of evil.[158][159]

    Darwin remained close friends with the vicar of Downe, John Innes, and continued to play a leading part in the parish work of the church,[160] but from around 1849 would go for a walk on Sundays while his family attended church.[155] He considered it "absurd to doubt that a man might be an ardent theist and an evolutionist"[161][162] and, though reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he wrote that "I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God. – I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."[85][161]

    The "Lady Hope Story", published in 1915, claimed that Darwin had reverted to Christianity on his sickbed. The claims were repudiated by Darwin's children and have been dismissed as false by historians.[163]
    3924) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1314120)
    Posted 12 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obama is the best President ever.

    When you get old, white, angry men talking like "Me, Me, Me" teeny boppers,
    you know you're doing something right.

    Obama is OK in my books!


    You can have him. I'll trade ya for the rock band Rush.


    Sorry Rush is a National Treasure, no candu.
    Now if you'd asked for the Albert Tar Sands you might have had a deal
    since they seem to be up for grabs.
    We'll give you Stephen Harper, and the Tar Sands, for Barack Hussein Obama.

    Going, going, ...


    Xanadu.
    3925) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1313988)
    Posted 11 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, fair enough. And there was me thinking that all pot smokers were people with goatee beards, open toed sandals, clutching a copy of the Guardian.

    Sigh.
    As you know, I have long hair. AND a goatee.
    I have sometimes worn sandals. Sometimes they were "open-toed".
    I have owned/worn four tie-dye shirts since about age 26.
    And I've NEVER touched marijuana.
    I have known people from well off families that smoke it.
    I have known Republicans that smoke it.
    I have known people that served in the Air Force that smoke it.
    Shall I scour my memory and come up with more examples?
    3926) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1313866)
    Posted 11 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course PM Cameron has got it 100% right. Those who advocate going soft on drugs are also going soft in the head. As we have a cluster of Left Wingers on these boards, no doubt I'll be strongly disagreed with. Nothing new there then!

    Drugs use


    I have already indicated those voting for it in CO are Republicans or Libertarians, unless in Boulder. I possess some deep knowledge on this fact.
    3927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1312863)
    Posted 9 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have had similar situations.
    First, a ring can be a defense and not an actual marker. Where I work the ratio of men to women is over 100 men to each woman. All of the office women in the office are encouraged to wear a ring just to deter potential harassment.
    Second, fear of commitment. A great many men and women fear commitment. What you are describing sounds like she enjoys your company but is afraid of you for several potential reasons. She might be afraid of commitment in general, or she might be afraid of getting evolved with you because of the age gap. I have one friend at work who sounds like your friend. She is 20 years younger than me and we have great conversations. I asked her out once and she withdrew. I was able to reestablish a friendship by asking her and a number of her friends out, send the message that I was not interest in a romantic relationship. We are good friends but it's clear there is a line that will not be crossed.
    Search your own desires. Are you looking for a friend or a lover. If a friend, then you can rebuild that, just make sure to send the message you are not looking for a lover. If you want a lover, search elsewhere. for whatever reason she is unavailable to you.
    While it is possible that a friendship can grow into a romance it sounds like she will run a soon as she feels you are make a move on her.
    just my 2 cents worth.


    Interesting responses.
    Seems people my age to 10 years younger respond one way, those above (as best as I can tell), another way.
    Well, I gave finals this week and am nearly 60%A done grading, with a little under 48 hours left to finish and submit them. So, one response (perhaps lengthy), and then back to working hard the next two days.
    Carlos, think of how many people go straight to a romantic relationship without being friends first, and it fails because of no foundation. Obviously, I'd rather be friends first, and I am pretty sure that was attained previously, but is now a question mark.
    To a variety of respondents, regarding things seeming to drag out: one, keep in mind how incredibly busy I am much of the time.
    Two, besides the age difference, which I did not initially know (I previously thought she could be in her late 20s or early 30s, given the way she often acts and appears) ... another issue is the fact that she is a student majoring in the area I teach. Now, I must emphasize, she *was* NOT, *is* NOT, nor ever will be a student of mine (I even checked this last part). I also checked with an administrator here. Under these conditions, he said, there is no issue in pursuing something.
    Further, I did stick my neck out, first with the e-mails and second inviting her to coffee (something I think most people regard as neutral, but a possible starting point).
    One reason I brought this up here was to see if people thought that, from what i described, if it sounded like she was acting if she liked me, on whatever level. And, with discretion, more could be shared. To me, it is the sum of things pointing to her having, at least previously, been/being interested in me.
    My brain is already fading here. Trying to keep it together to make some salient points before closing this post out.
    I believe I mentioned it is not just me she has cut off association with. The friend I mentioned in the first post, I think, gets little interaction from her, he's observed that she no longer talks to classmates she used to talk to. Most importantly, a friend of hers, who took 3 classes from me last year, has also indicated having far less interaction with he (though she doesn't feel she's been blown off). In fact, the woman I am discussing sat in on one of those 3 classes, last spring, to assist her friend. Again, NOT as my student.
    I think that's about it, except that in the last 2 weeks she may be coming out of hiding a bit, but I've been in no position to try to follow up with her in some non-pushy way. The end of the semester is stressful for all. I wasn't about add stress for either her or me.
    3928) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome Back! (Message 1311605)
    Posted 6 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage?

    No, RAC is derived over time.

    And all crunchers were, in effect, in a time out. Thus, project-wise, no time passed.
    3929) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1311591)
    Posted 6 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, wait, this would tax Hollywood actors and professional athletes too.

    Oh, Noooo! Bummer! :(
    3930) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome Back! (Message 1311588)
    Posted 6 Dec 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why would RACs go down during an outage? No one's done more or less work than another, so shouldn't RACs freeze during an 8 or so day outage?
    3931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1311226)
    Posted 29 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I appreciate the thoughts so far. I am trying to grade and return stuff before the end of the week, because next week is finals week. But, I'll try to keep reading, respond, provide further observations based on what was said or asked.
    3932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1310905)
    Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, as the OP of this thread, you have control over the content. Red x is your friend.
    A ring my not indicate marriage, but an engagement(?). Also there is quite a bit of age difference, but should not be an issue, if Love is involved.
    Don't be pushy. I think right now, the ball is in her court.
    Thank you for sharing some very personal insight here, that took alot of courage.

    I will disagree slightly. He should make certain she know he cares. Then the ball would clearly be in her court. At the moment, she might not even realize that there is a court...

    OK, responding to both JM and Uli.
    (And, thanks in advance, again.)
    Regarding the ring, the friend I mentioned asked her about it, perhaps about a year ago. It's not a wedding or engagement ring. She actually told him she wears it to keep lots of guys away. Which makes the fact that twice she seemed to notice me spotting it and trying to hide it interesting.
    Regarding "courts": well, that's the way I look at it, that the ball is in her court. In fact, I did my best, without being pushy, to try to let her know a court existed, and it seemed when we started talking more back in the spring/early summer that she'd picked up on this fact and metaphorically picked up the ball, tossing it back and forth. Then she decided to drop the ball, or something bad happened. Perhaps something like having been attacked? This is just a wild guess.
    Oh, and yes, I realize that's a big age difference. It took a while for me to find out her age. In this case, directly from her.
    3933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1310890)
    Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JM, thanks. Looking forward to other insights.

    To the poster formerly known as Dull, I try ignore you as much as possible. Why? Because, despite your supposed age of around 70, and that you've supposedly lived in two countries, your point of view is so narrow.
    I am 44. She's 24.
    I've never been married. One major reason is my own parents' divorce when I was about 10 (after it dragged out about 3 or 4 years). The reasons for it were very different than the typical reasons of the mid-70s, and were somewhat tragic, for lack of a better word. I already knew by age 3 ... (3!) ... about how life can throw you lemons and worse.
    Beyond that, it's none of your business.
    So, if you cannot step out of your shoes for a moment and then provide useful insights, then kindly hold your tongue in this thread and to anything else I post. I'm sure you learned that a young age from your respected elders in Deutschland, richtig?

    Rant over. Thanks again, JM.
    3934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can't figure this one out (Message 1310880)
    Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Cafe seems to be a place for sharing fun or personal things.
    I rarely do this, but I'd like to discuss something of a personal nature, that I can't quite figure out, and see if anybody in the Cafe might have some insight that can help me make sense of something.

    Around March of 2011, I met a young lady who is rather unique. I mean this in terms of her intelligence, as well as how she presents herself and appearance.
    At first, we occasionally engaged each other in small talk.
    But over a few months, I began to suspect she might want to talk to me more, and might even have a crush on me.

    I brought this to the attention of someone that knows the both of us, and during a small mild-mannered social gathering all three of us were at, he observed her in terms of how she might interact with me She didn't actually interact with me, but he said she had her eyes on me almost the entire time I was there; that I was, essentially, being "tracked".

    Later, on two occasions, I noticed a ring on her left hand, and I wondered if she might not be single, or might even be married. It seemed she noticed me glancing at her hand, both times, and both times, she moved her hand away or covered it up. The same guy that knows the both of us (he's married) later asked her in a casual conversation if she was single, and it turns out she was/is single.

    Nearly every time she would pass by me, she was smiling. This continued for many months.

    Fast-forward to this year:

    She asked me a question in April or May, and I realized after she could use a more complete answer than I had provided, considering her intelligence, and I decided to e-mail her to follow up on it. I also wanted to see if she would open up and want to discuss other things.

    Indeed, we wound up talking about a great many things, mostly by e-mail and also occasionally in person over the early part of the summer.

    She went so far as to indicate she considered me a friend (and some other compliments), and I believe thee were further indications of a crush.

    The way she began addressing me in the e-mails could almost be considered giving me a pet name.

    When I pretended I was being long-winded in some of my responses, she said "I find your emails delightful and not the least bit long-winded. Too many of my
    friends seem to think that a brief paragraph, or worse a sentence or
    two, is sufficient when they write an email. I prefer these longer
    emails." Later, she said, “So your emails are going to take me awhile to reply to just because of their length. In no way think that statement is a complaint - on the contrary, your emails are spoiling me. I now view the ridiculously
    short emails I receive from my other correspondents with extreme
    dissatisfaction. :)” There was more along similar lines, but I'd rather not cut and paste a lot more, as I have no wish for her privacy to be invaded (and I realize, just in asking people to try to help me figure this out, and including just a few brief lines crosses the line a little bit).

    I asked her if she'd like to get together at a coffee shop to catch up on the discussions, and she basically said yes. But, shortly after she stopped e-mailing her and for about 2 months, I did not even see her around.

    The person I mentioned above, who's familiar with both of us, also he would no longer run into her at some places around town that he used to see her, like bookstores or a library.

    Now that I see her around again, it's not very much. My friend and I both think she's been hiding. Not just from me, but several people she used to talk to or was friends with. She's only said anything to me once since around June or July, a "Hi" when I rounded a corner, but she sounded different: depressed? surprised? scared? I don't know.

    I was so busy and tired, all I did was nod and passed her by. I thought, after the effort I made, if she was trying to re-open communications, it was on her and it would take more effort than that.

    But, she hasn't spoken to me since then. That was maybe 6-8 weeks ago. I tried to make up for my passing by with only nodding by forwarding an e-mail inviting people to an event I thought she might be interested in. She didn't attend, nor did she reply in e-mail or in person. Nothing to say "Thanks" or "Thanks, but I have to do other things" or "Thanks, but please stop talking to me and stop e-mailing me." Nothing

    On the one hand, I feel like she's cut me off, and I should do the same in return.
    On the other hand, I have to wonder what happened to her over the summer. Did something bad happen? Or what else could have been going on in her mind that made her want to cut not only me off, but other people she used to associate with, and to act as if she is hiding from people?

    I don't know if I've provided enough information, but, if so, anyone have any insights?
    3935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aw, yeah! (Message 1310876)
    Posted 28 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulate me on my earning over 5000000 combined.
    (Oh, this doesn't belong in NC? Don't blame me, I didn't place it here.)



    It IS a milestone thread, Sarge. Congratz by the way.


    IF I may ask, when did milestone threads start getting relegated to NC?
    Number Crunching, I thought, was supposed to for discussing *issues* such as optimized applications.
    The Cafe is for discussing fun and personal things, and I consider a milestone a fun and personal thing that I wished to share in the appropriate manner/forum.
    3936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aw, yeah! (Message 1309782)
    Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulate me on my earning over 5000000 combined.
    (Oh, this doesn't belong in NC? Don't blame me, I didn't place it here.)
    3937) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1309582)
    Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Our intelligence reports to disgruntled spice miners from one of the moons of Naboo." BENGHAZI!!!
    3938) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1309543)
    Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You act as if legalizing pot is moving that line...


    It IS moving the line. After we move the line to the other side of weed, it's then time to start working on moving the line again. That's leaning forward. That's progress.


    Time to start boycotting posts by Guy. He has ceased contributing anything worthwhile to discussions.
    3939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aw, yeah! (Message 1309098)
    Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3940) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1309097)
    Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You perceive inconsistencies where none exist.
    I have stated all along that I am independent.


    You're not inconsistent to me at all...you say you're an independent but you have a very clear conservative slant (not that that is a bad thing).


    That will confuse Guy.
    3941) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1309067)
    Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Guy, don't hate me because I can grow this much hair in my mid-40s.)


    I don't hate you. I question your inconsistency over the months through.

    And I have a full head of hair also. It's just turning white as I cross over into the second half of my century of life.


    You perceive inconsistencies where none exist.
    I have stated all along that I am independent.
    3942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1308996)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    mine

    Gold!
    3943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1308922)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    influenza

    Vaccine!
    3944) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1308920)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    San Franscisco just demonstrated a little bit of right-wing extremism by outlawing public nudity except at government approved events.


    Guy, why do you believe that a Democratic Board of Supervisors, with a Democratic Mayor, in a state with a Democratic legislature, would behave in a way that is consistent with your description of "right-wing extremism"?


    Crossposted from another thread:

    No one should dictate to another how to live their life. Tolerance is a requirement.


    Anything else is considered right-wing extremism.

    Considered by whom?


    Right wing extremists? ;)
    HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
    (Guy, don't hate me because I can grow this much hair in my mid-40s.)
    3945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 36 (Message 1308584)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yeast

    Antibiotic!
    3946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Thanksgiving! (Message 1308573)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those who celebrate, may Thanksgiving be loaded up with family, football, food and a fun day. We all have much to be thankful for.

    As I am way too far away from family, I will rest.
    Happy Thanksgiving to you, Blurf.
    3947) Message boards : Politics : Can good and evil exist without man? (Message 1308572)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Needs a definition of good and evil.

    There are incidents that were regarded as acceptable in the past that would get you locked up for life as a minimum these days and vice versa.

    And are similar "evil" acts carried out in the animal kingdom, actually evil or a means of survival?

    Yes, but is defining good and evil only something man can do? If so, then would you say that they don't exist without man.

    Ok, accept your point, but in the animal kingdom, especially those where there is a Alpha leader does not the Leader make decisions about the behavior of the "guilty".

    Anthropomorphism?

    Isn't that more about observing human chacteristics in the animal kingdom, such as humour?


    And attributing decision making ability to animals is ... ?
    3948) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1308564)
    Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm surprised no one has posted:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZiL1PMF3xA

    In honor of California: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ok4-H_w9Fs.
    3949) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1308551)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Being a newly transformed modern day moderate liberal, I think people have a right to put what ever they find in nature into their mouths or lungs. Be it weed, mushrooms or frog licking.

    No, the voters in CO that approved it are Republicans. About time they admitted they're no better than hippy libs.


    What? Colorado is a blue state.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/co/colorado_romney_vs_obama-2023.html


    Before 2008, it was red. Now, it is purple. Haven't spent time in CO. Would've thought you at least knew a little bit about Springs.
    If Ted Nugent was a pothead, he'd fit right in with the pot smokers in CO. Possibly with the exception of Boulder. ;)
    3950) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1308397)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Being a newly transformed modern day moderate liberal, I think people have a right to put what ever they find in nature into their mouths or lungs. Be it weed, mushrooms or frog licking.

    No, the voters in CO that approved it are Republicans. About time they admitted they're no better than hippy libs.
    3951) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1308395)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe everybody knows what's coming.


    The Rapture?
    I'm sorry, that already happened.
    144,000 people, gone.
    Of course, it happened Election Night.
    However, most of them were not in the United States.
    3952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link # 35 (Message 1308283)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    judge

    Jury.
    3953) Message boards : Politics : Colorado approves RECREATIONAL use of marijuana (Message 1308265)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary. where did that come from.? I am talking Pot, not ot the rest of the hard core drugs.
    Let's stick to Pot per Soft's request.


    It's not Soft's thread, it's Ex's.
    And, as I stated in another thread a few months ago, and also said to Ex, quite a few who use, use concurrently, and it is likely alcohol, cigarettes and marijuana. I find Gary's post relevant.
    3954) Message boards : Politics : This is why .... (Message 1308222)
    Posted 21 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

    Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
    Is it the Greys?



    I just did. It's catholics, or more broadly, christians.


    No you didn't.
    Besides, replacing Ayatollah with Pope?
    Just won't work.

    Ayatollah,
    drink this special cola.
    Ayatollah,
    I made it just for you!
    3955) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1308184)
    Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One website indicates that the Milky Way Galaxy is "... about 13.2 billion years old". The Earth, about 4.5 billion years old. If any planets elsewhere in the galaxy formed earlier (i.e., there's still a few billion yeas to mess arounf with here), developed life, developed intelligent life, developed intelligent space-faring flight ... ? What's to stop them from making the long flights (tens of thousands of years) on inter-generational ships that have been postulated? And if that's the case, perhaps these far off or impossible technologies we're postulating would not even be needed.
    3956) Message boards : Politics : This is why .... (Message 1308182)
    Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    & Just what & who was he?

    You don't know how to use google and wikipedia?

    +1


    That's surprising coming from you WK.

    Why, I usually use unlinked clues from other peoples posts to further my own knowledge. Either to get more and sometimes better information to backup or oppose their claims.

    Our friend who is taking a holiday, always, without exception, leaves things so wide open, so that with only a little searching, one can bring up many other sources to oppose his views, quite often from the same person. Unfortunately he has a tendency to lose it, so that we have weeks to wait until the fun can begin again.


    Hey, Thursday IS a holiday here in the US. Our friend has every right to not write as he celebrates and passages the rites.
    3957) Message boards : Politics : This is why .... (Message 1308148)
    Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

    Guy, thanks for your brilliant, incisive critique.

    Or straw man, take your pick.


    Actually, in this case, I think he wants someone else to say it is the ....... before he does, so he can then jump on and say it's fair game.

    Ayatollah,
    drink this special cola.
    Ayatollah,
    I made it just for you!
    3958) Message boards : Politics : This is why .... (Message 1308126)
    Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, catholics are the BIGGEST problem in the world today.

    Go for it, Wonderful Guy, tell us who REALLY is the BIGGEST problem in the world today.
    Is it the Greys?
    3959) Message boards : Politics : The Fiscal Cliff -- Is it time? (Message 1308011)
    Posted 20 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly, it is not time, by order of House Speaker Boehner last week.
    3960) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1307781)
    Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Item 15
    You will use the proper tea which is Earl Grey.

    What?! It isn't tea-publican?!! Wait till the NRA hears about this!!

    Now we've got someone saying NASA "didn't build that"! Apollo 17 "On The Shoulders of Giants" - NASA Space Program & Moon. Quit quoting that liberal, Sir Isaac Newton.
    3961) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1307600)
    Posted 19 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The piece quoted by Sarge also misses the point that the popular vote in a US Presidential election is meaningless, it's the Electoral College that decides the president and the EC vote does not have to concur with the popular vote. Is the author of the piece in question insinuating that there is "voter fraud" in the Electoral College ?


    The Electoral Votes "mirror" the popular vote.
    (As I seem to recall, the Senate is for equal representation of the states, while the House of Representatives and therefore, similarly, the Electoral College are based on population.)
    Thus, if voter fraud were widespread, that would be "mirrored" by the Electoral College.
    By "mirrored", of course, I mean that if a candidate wins significantly more electoral votes, that is because that candidate carried more of the districts.
    I cannot recall any time where an electoral vote has differed from who carried a district in my lifetime. If it has happened in my lifetime, I suspect only once, at best twice.

    If voter fraud was so rife, how come the numbers in the house of Representatives and the Senate didn't change ? According to the theory, the Dems should have won both houses in a landslide.


    A very good question, I suppose.
    3962) Message boards : Politics : 5: Big Bang Looming....... (Message 1307441)
    Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aww Jeeze... Not this 'stuff' again....

    Just what is so difficult about this topic such that so many people totally fail to understand it?

    Lots of people want their Government to be a combination helping hand and safety net. If some people can't meet all their needs by themselves, the Government will give it to them. Nobody would be homeless. Nobody would suffer from lack of health care, or not enough food to eat. Everyone would have nice clothes to wear and anything/everything else they could possibly want. In short, everyone would live like kings. Noble sentiment... (here it comes... wait for it...) BUT...

    I don't expect the government to give people enough money to "live like kings", I am not even against the government cutting spending for welfare programs.

    Ok, I will say this. You are somewhat ahead of the curve for being willing to make any cuts. And I agree that 'live like kings' is a tad unrealistic, but where do you draw the line on what is cut-able and what isn't?

    The programs that most will protest over any cuts whatsoever and going to be the most expensive ones. You know the ones I am talking about. The Big Three.

    FDR's Social Security, Bush the Younger's Medicare Part D, and LBJ's Medicare.

    I don't think that most people understand the magnitude of the problem. Per data from both the Federal Reserve and the IRS, in order to totally fund these 3 programs (and this is JUST these 3), every single US Taxpayer will have to pay a bit over 1 Million dollars each over and above the taxes and fees currently dedicated. Assuming a 50 year working life (age 20 through age 70), that is about an extra $21,000.00 a year, every year over and above Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, and other fees and premiums they already pay. The money just isn't there to pay for these three, and to try to do so would tank the economy raising costs even more and putting these programs in even worse shape.

    We need cuts in a BAD way. Not just cuts to the rate of growth (though those are vital as well) but actual, real CUTS to every sector of Government spending. To fail to do so is to tax/borrow/print each and every one of us into abject poverty. The US Government has over-promised us all. Some of us see the bill coming, and know that we are going to have to pay it.


    The 'but' is 'how is the Government gonna pay for it?' (NB: It does not matter which Government we are talking about here, they ALL have the same constraint).

    Governments can only fund their activities using some combination of the ONLY three sources of money available to them. And, each one of the three sources has a downside.

    The three sources of money for the Governments to spend are: 1. Taxes, 2. Borrowing, and 3. 'Printing' it.

    The downside of taxation is that the higher taxes are, the less money is left over to help fund the sort of economic activity that creates wealth, and it is kinda hard to redistribute that which you don't have....

    The increased taxes could be used to fund infrastructure projects. Hence putting the money right where it needs to be to create wealth, at the bottom. This employs people of all classes, and puts the money directly into the economy, where it needs to be.


    Or... how about this radical idea... We COULD leave the money in the economy, where it needs to be, and you know.... NOT tax it out of the economy in the first place.


    Newton: if I have seen further, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants. Curse that liberal, Sir Isaac Newton, Of course, you built that, not Leibniz!
    3963) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1307435)
    Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    COINCIDENCE?? OBAMA LOSES IN EVERY STATE REQUIRING PHOTO IDS

    The liberal trolls are out in full force on this page. Once idenified they are immediatedly dismissed.

    To those who read this I would but ask, "What are you doing here?" Should
    n't you "compassionate ones," be busy today working out that "Hope, and Change?"

    One such deluded soul just posted this; "Just face it Liberals outnumber you?" My reply before sending him out the door; "If you are so condident in this assertion why then are you afraid of photo id requirements?"

    Remember all those lawsuits by Democrats demanding that any voter identification laws be repealed. Well, now we know why they filed them. They needed to steal the vote in certain key states so that Obama could be reelected.

    Curiously, Obama lost in every state that requires a photo ID to be produced before voting. A list of closely contested state elections with no voter ID, which narrowly went to Obama include: Minnesota (10), Iowa (6), Wisconsin (10), Nevada (6), Colorado (9), New Mexico (5) and Pennsylvania (20). This amounts to a total of 66 electoral votes. When added to Romney’s total of 205 electoral votes, that would give Romney 271 electoral votes, enough votes to win even without Ohio or Florida.

    Romney also likely had the states of Florida and Ohio stolen from him, which don’t require photo IDs. Ohio requires a non-photo ID. Would a library card do? Florida “requests” a photo ID, but doesn’t require it. So what happens if they request a photo ID and the illegal alien Haitian doesn’t have one? Do they just count the vote anyway?






    Really? "OBAMA LOSES IN EVERY STATE REQUIRING PHOTO IDS" Really?

    http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/vote/acceptableFormsOfID.html

    CO is shown in blue, meaning Obama won CO.

    From its own Secretary of State webpage:

    All voters who vote at the polls must provide identification. If you are voting by mail for the first time, you may also need to provide a photocopy of your identification.

    Please note, a Social Security number (or last four digits) is not a legal form of identification for voting in person. Additionally, if any form of identification listed below shows your address, that address must be in the state of Colorado to be valid.

    The following are acceptable forms of identification:

    (a) A valid Colorado driver’s license;

    (b) A valid identification card issued by the Department of Revenue in accordance with the requirements of Part 3 of Article 2 of Title 42, C.R.S.;

    (c) A valid U.S. passport;

    (d) A valid employee identification card with a photograph of the eligible elector issued by any branch, department, agency, or entity of the United States government or of this state, or by any county, municipality, board, authority, or other political subdivision of this state;

    (e) A valid pilot’s license issued by the federal aviation administration or other authorized agency of the United States;

    (f) A valid U.S. military identification card with a photograph of the eligible elector;

    (g) A copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector. For example:

    (I) A cable bill or telephone bill,

    (II) Documentation from a public institution of higher education in Colorado containing at least the name, date of birth, and legal residence address of the student elector,

    (III) A paycheck from a government institution or private company, or

    (IV) A Certificate of Degree of Indian or Alaskan Native Blood.

    (h) A valid Medicare or Medicaid card issued by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (formerly the United States Health Care Financing Administration);

    (i) A certified copy of a U.S. birth certificate for the elector issued in the United States;

    (j) Certified documentation of naturalization;

    (k) A valid student identification card with a photograph of the eligible elector issued by an institute of higher education in Colorado, as defined in section 23-3.1-102(5), C.R.S.;

    (l) A valid veteran identification card issued by the United States department of veterans affairs veterans health administration with a photograph of the eligible elector.

    (m) A valid identification card issued by a federally recognized tribal government certifying tribal membership.


    There is a report of an angry potential CO voter who stormed out when he was asked for a photo ID, refusing to listen to those working at the polling station who tried to tell him what his options were. He was angry it was a law. He looked ready to vote Romney.

    Logic and proof: frustrating extremists since Euclid.
    3964) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1307432)
    Posted 18 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least one is NOT working, having decided to ... take an extended VACATION.
    3965) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1307011)
    Posted 17 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    America voted.
    Republicans noted,
    that history left them behind.

    All in a tiz,
    with no one to dis,
    they all blamed a global warming.

    The cry went out,
    to all who would listen,
    that this is a fight to the end.

    In the end,
    we'll all find,
    that republicans my friend,
    are nopublicans et al.


    "The Marble Thinker"
    by me
    sometime in Fall 1994 or Winter 1994/1995.

    Truth -
    permeates our existence.
    Falsehood -
    hinders our persistence.
    What will you offer up
    in resistance?
    Will you swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time,
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to sell ya -
    It's called
    propaganda.
    Truth rearranged,
    money's exchanged.
    Truth become lies, bought.
    Never given a 2nd thought.

    We -
    are watching from the fence.
    Watching
    them fight for the defense.
    Just takes a few thousand dollars,
    for them to put a spin on the evidence.
    Will we swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to tell ya -
    could it be
    they have an agenda?
    It's all perception.
    If there are 2 sides to every story,
    is there no such thing as deception?
    Artful depiction -
    leaving only 1 choice for the jury ...
    Not enough evidence for conviction.

    Truth -
    "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said.
    Falsehood -
    is what we keep getting fed.
    I will offer up
    a fight until I'm dead.
    No, I won't swallow it -
    hook, line & sinker.
    I define the fine line
    between an open mind & a marble thinker.

    So awkward and out of place -
    I see
    you're charmed by my smiling face.
    Put me on the stand -
    raise my right hand.
    Of course, you believe me.
    "He couldn't be lying, could he?"

    Listen to it now!
    3966) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1306984)
    Posted 17 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Prez was in a pool! The prez was in a pool!!!
    3967) Message boards : Politics : Pres is bad. Really really bad. We're lost. Time to implode! (Message 1306971)
    Posted 16 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jerry: "It was like I was on some sort of Bizarro world."

    George: "It was the summer of Bizarro. October surprise, baby!"
    3968) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1306907)
    Posted 16 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's this guy named demonella,
    who seems like a nice fella.
    Changed his name from dullnando and worm
    and continues to stand firm.
    I don't know why more don't fall under his umbrella!

    Does Rihanna wanna protect the Demonella under her "umbrella"?
    3969) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1306905)
    Posted 16 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who are we to try to put a stop to true love?

    You really are too busy, and do not post enough.
    3970) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1306900)
    Posted 16 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mr. Clash, of gay orientation
    enticed someone with a Sesame Street fixation
    He attracked a young boy
    with his hand and Elmo toy
    and will soon be in a jail relation

    Public funds support Sesame Street.
    Most people think that's pretty neat.
    With a known pedophile
    they make kids smile
    and the public thinks it's pretty sweet!


    Gotta love
    how the accuser recanted,
    while Guy
    still slanted
    still ranted.
    3971) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1305934)
    Posted 14 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The belief, right or wrong is, if you can lie to your wife about that, what could you like to the people you govern about?
    3972) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1305734)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To further Hev's understanding ... . Title alteration.

    Edit: well, I guess the way to change a thread title has altered? Henceforth, this thread is "Paula Broadhips and General GoldCialis."

    You can't change it in a reply or quote, it has to be a new "post to thread", then edit.


    Yeah, I had forgotten that after all.
    Well, if the thread gets more ... ahem, action ... I shall change it later.
    3973) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1305696)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To further Hev's understanding ... . Title alteration.

    Edit: well, I guess the way to change a thread title has altered? Henceforth, this thread is "Paula Broadhips and General GoldCialis."
    3974) Message boards : Politics : When will US introduce direct election system for President? (Message 1305680)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aftermath: A Distorted View of America and Why Seceding Can’t Succeed

    "Of course any of the other aforementioned states could, in an act of treason, secede by force to become the world’s newest impoverished nations. Not only are the majority of blue states the most populous, they are also the states with the most wealth, and with that comes the most taxes. And those blue states’ taxes pave their roads, turn on their street lights, run their schools, and make their water drinkable.

    While some Republicans in the Great Plains, the Rockies, and much of the Deep South complain about the bright red map, they’ve failed to realize it’s the deceptively small blue cogs that actually keep the machine that is America rolling along — and it’s the blue states’ money that fills the tank."


    The 53% is PURPLE, baby!
    3975) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1305677)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is Paula Broadhips?

    Paula Broadwell was General Patreaus' biographer.

    Eric hopes that some day he will be famous enough to have an attractive female biographer who is half his age. Eric is hoping his biographer will have earned high B's in her highschool science classes and will supplement her publishing income by modeling swimwear. He feels this will uniquely qualify her to be his biographer.

    If such a biographer is ever assigned to Eric, I shall attend every interview!!!

    Thanks Angela, I suppose I asked the question because I was annoyed by another woman being described as body parts.


    Surely, Hev, you understood?
    'Tis I, Sarge.
    In the finest English tradition, Bond, James Bond, I didst thus name her, much like we have Octo... .
    3976) Message boards : Politics : Obama 2016 (Message 1305676)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blurf, she might run -- especially if Biden decides to run -- then it would be the Social Security ticket <g>

    Then again, Cuomo from NY might run as well.

    As to the Teapublican party -- depends just how much dominance the Teaparty social conservatives have -- they might run Ryan, if the right wing of the party has its wings clipped then Jeb Bush, or for that matter, Rubio or Nikki Haley.

    One of the problems for the the incumbent party -- it is difficult for candidates to build up a following without seeming to undercut the President.

    For the Republicans -- well they have a fair amount of talent, but they need to figure out if they can pivot to the center-right from the far right. If they stay on the far right, the electoral map is NOT friendly for them -- I mean just how many times can the Confederacy dominate politics.


    4 years ago, they whined. They said, we need to regroup.
    They didn't regroup. They talked a little sense for a few months, and then most of the next 2 years was a mad dash for power.
    That worked.
    Another two years, and it didn't.
    Plus, Romney ran 6 years.

    As a reminder, 20 years ago, Limbaugh suggested a lady hold a bake sale to raise a large amount of money she needed, to demonstrate how people could rely on themselves and charitable other individuals rather than always looking to gubment.
    I'll bet Rush hasn't talked like that in years. I'm sure all his negativity from back then has been focused and filtered, and now that's pretty much all you get from him.
    3977) Message boards : Politics : Neither side can handle the truth. That's why they don't talk about it. (Message 1305675)
    Posted 13 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And that is how we got into this fiscal mess with RINO's like yourself who with your mouths write checks that your rearends cannot keep.

    So now I'm a RINO. Damn strange. Let's see I've been called a liberal, a tea party member, a republican and now a RINO. Someone finally got it right a few days ago.

    I advocate a zero debt ceiling, using accrual accounting. But somehow I'm responsible for all the debt. I know. I must be a white male. :)

    Well, I will admit one exception to zero. Declared War. Hurricanes and earthquakes are predictable enough that emergency funds should be set aside for them. So, one and only one exception.


    Is it so hard for people to remember you're a Libertarian?
    And, oooh, oooh, yes, I know how to change "it"! :)
    3978) Message boards : Politics : Neither side can handle the truth. That's why they don't talk about it. (Message 1305621)
    Posted 12 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Try reading for content or get your glasses updated...


    I think that answered a question or two. ;)
    3979) Message boards : Politics : Paula Broadhips & General GoldPeneTraitorUs (Message 1305381)
    Posted 12 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know you want to talk about her.
    And Petreaus.
    And

    Benghazi.
    3980) Message boards : Politics : Obama 2016 (Message 1305142)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should just ignore the 22nd amendment and keep Obama since he's doing such a great job.


    Remember, playing opposite Guy gets guy ignored even more.


    I knew an about face wouldn't take long.
    Re-join the 53%, get some work done.
    3981) Message boards : Politics : I voted. (Message 1304789)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you think we burnt the White House down? You wouldn't listen then so what makes us think you'll listen now? :)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYiDC04Q5lk

    They've given me a mission
    I don't really know the game yet
    I'm bent on submission
    Religion is to blame
    I'm the new messiah
    Death angel with a gun
    Dangerous in my silence
    Deadly to my cause

    CHORUS
    Speak to me the pain you feel
    Speak the word
    The word is all of us

    I've given my life to become what I am
    to preach the new beginning
    To make you understand
    To reach some point of order
    Utopia in mind, you've got to learn
    To sacrifice, to leave what's now behind

    CHORUS

    Seven years of power
    the corporation claw
    The rich control the government, the media the law
    To make some kind of difference
    Then everyone must know
    Eradicate the fascists, revolution will grow
    The system we learn says we're equal under law
    But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
    Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
    Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down
    CHORUS
    3982) Message boards : Politics : I voted. (Message 1304788)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela for Alameda County Board of Supervisors!

    The nuclear wessels? In Alameda?
    3983) Message boards : Politics : I voted. (Message 1304787)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And before you give me any ####, just remember that about 48% of the US voters agree with ME, you damned, ignorant, snotty liberals.

    I may be "damned" and I may be "snotty", but I personally take issue with the charge of "ignorant".

    +1.
    And he and so many have so much figuring out who the true liberals are.
    3984) Message boards : Politics : I voted. (Message 1304785)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has been my experience, at least in the SF Bay area, that crazy-busy people lean left.

    Or at least independent!
    Sure have to wonder about a few that have time to post so much, eh?
    3985) Message boards : Politics : Republicans Can't Handle The Truth (Message 1304784)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pretty soon, we'll all be paying for 'Bamacars.
    And they can be driven by illegals too, seeing as how some of them have no problem obtaining DL's.

    States issue drivers licenses, not the federal government. So if you have a problem with the issuance of DL's, your objection is to states' rights.


    The states are discriminating. It's the federal government's job to step in and do away with this institutional racism.

    What about the folks who can't afford driver's licenses? Or produce any other form of identification required to get a driver's license? That's blatant discrimination right there in plain site.


    I have never sighted an example of a discrimination being cited on this site.


    There once was a discussion about voter cessation.
    The answers were expounded by expansion.
    Some identification,
    was the fixation,
    until it was called discrimination.


    So, now you are Cay-juhn Man? NOW?
    3986) Message boards : Politics : I voted. (Message 1304783)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean the same effect as your various screeds here? <smile>.

    +1

    + another 41 = positive 42.
    3987) Message boards : Politics : Republicans Can't Handle The Truth (Message 1304764)
    Posted 11 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pretty soon, we'll all be paying for 'Bamacars.
    And they can be driven by illegals too, seeing as how some of them have no problem obtaining DL's.

    States issue drivers licenses, not the federal government. So if you have a problem with the issuance of DL's, your objection is to states' rights.


    The states are discriminating. It's the federal government's job to step in and do away with this institutional racism.

    What about the folks who can't afford driver's licenses? Or produce any other form of identification required to get a driver's license? That's blatant discrimination right there in plain site.


    I have never sighted an example of a discrimination being cited on this site.
    3988) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1304340)
    Posted 10 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, tithing (10%) is the nominal requirement. I say nominal -- not sure it is an absolute requirement. His contribution rate exceeds that.


    Gary, I realize that Romney has given a great deal of money to his Church and ...

    Word is, that's required. I guess it's ok for a "church" to demand it, but your country, no way! Render NOT to Caesar!!!



    The emphasis is on required.
    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AnGF6Y1xoaIAEWd.k6txKVybvZx4?p=mormon+tithing+requirement&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701-10
    3989) Message boards : Politics : Republicans Can't Handle The Truth (Message 1304260)
    Posted 10 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boner (Boner... ha ha) and McConnel need to compromise and allow NO cuts to social programs.


    Kirk Cameron played Mikey Seaver in "Growing Pains". That was the name of his best pal in that series.
    And we all know what Kirk is doing now, right?
    Starring in movie versions of the "Left Behind" series.
    3990) Message boards : Politics : Obama 2016 (Message 1304127)
    Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should just ignore the 22nd amendment and keep Obama since he's doing such a great job.


    Remember, playing opposite Guy gets guy ignored even more.
    3991) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1303906)
    Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    monoloquilize to empty chairs.


    One would rather to an empty chair than An Empty Brain.

    We, The Robots Of The Dark Side Of The Moon, wish No Joy in the coming Bipartisan Gymnastic Events.

    In The House and Senate, and Especially The Oval Office, All Chairs and Brains are Empty.

    11-06-2012, The Day The Last Vote For True Americans Was Cast.

    The DEMON...ella


    That's impossible.
    And you don't make tacos.
    3992) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1303842)
    Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, your premise about the President is wrong. His black ancestor was not the slave of an American.


    I am Guy's slave.
    3993) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1303828)
    Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of chairs, Here's one for dull.
    3994) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1303827)
    Posted 9 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Republican Party
    Obituary

    Washington D.C. — A memorial service for the Republican Party of Washington D.C. will be 11 a.m. Sunday, January 20, 2013, at the west front of the capitol in Washington D.C., Brother Barack Hussein Obama officiating, under the direction of Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies. The Republican Party passed away Tuesday, November 6, 2012, at multiple locations throughout the United States.

    Founded in the northern states in 1854 mainly by anti-slavery activists and the Whigs, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Southern Democratic Party. The Republican Party dominated politics nationally from 1860 to 1932 mainly because many of its principles were based upon classical liberalism.

    Early Republican ideology was reflected in the 1856 slogan "free labor, free land, free men." "Free labor" referred to the Republican opposition to slave labor and belief in independent artisans and businessmen. "Free land" referred to Republican opposition to plantation system whereby the rich could buy up all the good farm land and work it with slaves.

    The Republican Party played a main role in the support of one the nation's greatest presidents, Abraham Lincoln, who led the nation through one of its darkest periods and finally ended slavery.

    The Republican Party unfortunately began a long fight with the cancer of modern day liberalism beginning with Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt and the coalition he put together called "The New Deal." In 1933, New Deal legislation metastisized and a long, painful journey to death began. Several more bouts with extreme cases of cancer such as the Social Security Act, Medicare, Medicaid, and finally "Obamacare" was all the Republican Party could take before it took its last breath.

    The Republican Party was preceded in death by generations of independant, rugged individuals who built this country, the free market, God and success.

    The Republican Party is survived by the modern contemporary liberalism of today's Democratic Party.

    The family would like to give a special thanks to the generations of Americans up through today who provided a beacon of light for other nations struggling under the harsh conditions of dictatorships.

    Please leave online condolences at S@H.


    The new rugged individuals have rejected the old, and will not visit them at the Senior Care Home whilst the monoloquilize to empty chairs.
    3995) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1303449)
    Posted 8 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, I realize that Romney has given a great deal of money to his Church and ...

    Word is, that's required. I guess it's ok for a "church" to demand it, but your country, no way! Render NOT to Caesar!!!
    3996) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1303446)
    Posted 8 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Americans don't know what REAL

    brutal oppression and control,
    corruption,
    extreme poverty,
    terrible education,
    poor,
    media is highly controlled,
    wanton destruction of the environment on a global scale and
    constant war


    is.

    Americans do know what

    super wealthy


    is.

    I say this with authority because as a former volunteer member of the most capable Air Force in the world I had the opportunity to see the results of REAL oppression, control, corruption, poverty, etc. in other parts of the world.

    Lose the guilt.
    Be happy with what you can achieve.
    Stop trying to equalize good and evil by being indiscriminate.
    Stop being diametrically opposed to that which is good, right, and successful.
    Stop siding with evil, wrong and behaviors that lead to failure.
    Stop thinking good must be the beneficiary of some sort of prejudice.
    Accept the fact that because there are evil people there will be war, poverty, crime, and injustice.
    Fight evil, not those who are fighting evil.
    Stop trying to eliminate rational thought.
    Stop thinking rational and moral thought is an act of bigotry.
    Believe in SOMETHING.
    Have some STANDARDS.
    Stop being utterly unwilling and incapable of critically judging the merits of a child's positions.
    Stop believing that indiscriminateness is a moral imperative.
    Stop believing America is EVIL.
    Grow up beyond the age of Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and fairy tales.
    Stop thinking that somehow success is the results of cheating.
    Accept the fact that some people are smarter than others.

    There IS another choice!

    Realize individual freedom works best for any society. And the reason some of the things in the US are WAY OUT OF WACK and we are failing is because our government is taking more and more freedom away from its citizens.

    And do what it takes to get out of debt!

    There are still people in this world who are literally dying to cross our borders in order to have the freedom we still have today.

    And the reason some people are wary of the cries from those who are suffering through the damage caused by Sandy is the absolutely reprehensible responses from the victims towards those who waded through the water and tried to help after Katrina.


    http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp.
    1/2 truths?
    More later.
    I know you can't wait.
    3997) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1302714)
    Posted 6 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Excellent -- an oligarchy. But to make that really work, since corporations are people too, they also would get votes based on this.



    You get one vote for every $1000.00 or part thereof you pay in tax, less any entitlement payments. Income tax, sales tax, property tax, luxury tax ... less earned income credit, TANF ...

    Franklin was a brilliant man ... :)





    Plutocracy?
    3998) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1302387)
    Posted 5 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby,

    My latest avatar is from a vintage video game.

    Qbert lived in a world where the force of gravity came from three directions and when he spoke, he spoke in an alien language.

    You, being the NARW type of person you are, are hearing the sounds of Qbert from me.

    We cannot communicate because I apparently speak an unknown alien language to you.


    I hope my Appalachin was close enough to Texan to make sense to you. ;)
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66639&postid=1302370.
    P.S.-glad to see you finally posted a pic of yourself. It was really hard to believe you resembled Mr. T. As QBert, indeed, I do now hate you because you're sexier than me.
    3999) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1302370)
    Posted 5 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Public education has been indoctrinating liberals since the hippie movement of the 60s. Liberalism teaches discrimination is wrong. Wrong in ALL cases. You see, to discriminate is ...

    Dang dem Libs (that came in with Dewey, about 3-4 decades before the hippy 60s)!
    I sure hope dem Libs don't mess mah kids up on dat Quadratic Equation ... err, Formula (1).
    Cuz I done heard you can duhstinguish a difference between 2 real solutions (and wedder they be integers, rationals or irr-LIBBER-asstional), a single real solution (repeated, hens Mikey Keaton "Multiplicity") or 2 complex solutions (eye hates those imaginary nummers!).
    No how they does it? By using a thingy called a DISCRIMINANT.
    BTW, the floor needs worshed in here.
    4000) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1302344)
    Posted 5 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The capitalized E, though lacking the 4 usually included, is further indication of one's need for simple stories. In this case, there is no question that the conclusion drawn is demonstrably wrong. One wonders what other things simple thinker could be wrong about.

    May the odds
    be ever
    in your favor.

    Fo sho.
    4001) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1302326)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, folks. We're going to have a conversation about choices. Settle down, get comfortable, and read the comments following:

    First, I overheard the following Friday morning: "I'm sorry that the people back East are going through what they are but you choose where you live."

    The setting: I have a strange teaching schedule this semester. The first class I teach, all 5 days, starts at noon. I set my office hours to be 11a. A number of times I have arrived 7:30-9:30a (though usually closer to the latter). This past Friday, I wanted to get some work done, away from home, before my office hours but I did not feel like doing it at the office. A nearby convenience store has awesome coffee and, if not occupied, a place where I can sit and do grading.

    Some guy, perhaps around my age, was sitting at the next table. Wielding a mediumly-nasting looking knife, he was sitting there, talking to a friend, using the knife to scratch off lottery tickets. Then, I overheard him make the comment about Hurricane Sandy, the pain of people back east (my home area) and that his sympathy could only go so far, because, as he claimed, "You choose where you live."

    I made a brief comment, he retorted, said "Agree to disagree" (what a nice way to end something, I now realize ... a way to say "I cannot really defend my beliefs"). I continued to grade, fuming. And I fumed off and on throughout the day.

    1) The hurricane was of unprecendented proportions, was it not?

    2) What about the children? Anyone under 18 sure has NOT made the choice of whee they live, unless (s)he is a runaway, and I doubt many, or any, would advocate that.

    3) The comment "You choose where you live" might seem like commonsense, as many things might seem. I've probably let that idea slip through my mind, too, from time to time. Why? Because we in the US are taught from an early age that we live free ... that we have freedom of choice.

    Can you choose to live without air? Of course not. (Duh, you say to me, as you read.) But, wait a minute! We now know how to make oxygen tanks. People dive underwater, to great depths, for long periods of time. We've sent people into space and as far as the moon (unless you're a conspiracy theorist, lol).

    But how many get to participate in those dives? The percentage, I'm sure is small. How much smaller, still, the percentage of human beings that have escaped Earth's bounds? We may be able to make choices, but within a limited set of options. There are ways to get around some of those limitations, to some extent. However, in the end, we are "finite creatures". Whether you are religious or agnostic or atheist, there are justifications I can make for that statement. We are limited. That includes that all of us, in one way or another, knowingly or not, come up against limitations in the choices we have available to us.

    The guy that made that comment claimed he was able to choose to move back to this city, to raise a family. Certainly, going back someplace you've already been, with some connections already made, remains a choice to many, and perhaps it is easier to make. How easy is it, for most, to be 500-1000 miles, or more, from where they grew up, from family, from a familiar culture, and so on? How available is such an option, to many, when trying to make a go of it in life?

    I can imagine that he, or someone of similar ways of thinking, would've gone on to say, the federal government should not fund emergency relief through either what we've been taxed, or borrowing from China. Particularly when those people should not have been living in an area prone to these problems. Again, understandable, common sense thinking, right?

    But, again, this particular storm was unprecedented. Just like the earthquake near Roanoke VA about 13 months ago, which was preceded by an earthquake about 60-90 miles from me 36 hours before that. To my understanding, earthquakes are very rare here. (But, I've only been here 3 years, so maybe I've missed something?)

    Many of you know I am intelligent and hard-working. But, perhaps I do not support the person you do for president. Maybe you wonder why. Could it be that I've been deceived on just this one kind of thing, but intelligent about other things?

    I don't think so. I think that guy's comment cuts to the heart of what's been simmering in this country for years, about our fundamental beliefs, the types of storylines we embrace, the choices we make based on these things. I try not to subscribe to simple thinking. Only in math do you get clear cut answers. Science is messy. The whole rest of life is messy. This is why I do not embrace these stories, nor support a certain person for candidate.
    4002) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1302300)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to announce the Halloween poll.

    Walked the hood on Halloween night.
    Houses with Obama signs out front with lights on to give out candy - ZERO!
    Houses with Romney signs out front with lights on - 25%
    Houses without signs with lights on 20%

    Results very interesting.

    Obama supporters are either broke or jerks.
    Romney supporters have more cash and are charitable.
    There is a lot of people hurting.

    This is a non-scientific poll.

    Back to your regularly scheduled worming ...


    That's insulting.

    It is an observation and as valid as any political survey.

    I could go on and on about demographics here...

    Perhaps you should ask the demographics of the hood

    In two days we will know who wins, and who won California.

    Obama

    Here's an unscientific observation to counter yours.
    I live in a state where Obama will win: Number of Obama signs I've noticed in my neighborhood or any; 0.

    In my experience, signs around here tend to focus on local races and/or current issues up for vote (i.e. "For clean energy" or "Against 500ft eyesores.")

    There were far more signs up for local congressional and state representatives than presidents, many for city council. There were zero signs up for the US senate race. Only one for any of the state propositions.

    You didn't ask how many signs were up for either candidate. I wasn't attempting to predict the election results, just an observation on who the people voting are in this hood.

    If it was a scientific poll the sample size is so small as to have a 50% error bar.


    Which population parameter? z or t procedure?

    x bar plus or minus z* * sigma / sqrt(n).
    4003) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1302296)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I won't say that didn't cost much, but I blame paying for things like art work entitled "P*SS CHRIST." This is not only a waste of taxpayer money, but it also insults the tax payer.

    From 1992 or 1993, eh? You had to make that stretch?
    4004) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1302293)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to announce the Halloween poll.

    Walked the hood on Halloween night.
    Houses with Obama signs out front with lights on to give out candy - ZERO!
    Houses with Romney signs out front with lights on - 25%
    Houses without signs with lights on 20%

    Results very interesting.

    Obama supporters are either broke or jerks.
    Romney supporters have more cash and are charitable.
    There is a lot of people hurting.

    This is a non-scientific poll.

    Back to your regularly scheduled worming ...


    So, was it from your observations? Anecdotal?
    Just curious.
    Because my own anecdote is that I noticed a guy 1/2 way between home and work (i.e., campus( had taken his five Romney/Ryan signs down. At first, I thought he might have withdrawn his support. (Very early this year, his signs were "Santorum: Game On!" Apparently, that's the name of a song played on modern evangelical radio stations.) Then it occurred to me: did he take the signs down so as not to scare the kids too much?
    4005) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1302290)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Romney, if elected, will attempt to save America by discriminating against stupidity. But he will fail because of Harry Reid vowing to make him a one-term president and the main-stream media continuing to attack him with lies.

    Curious, can you site one of these "lies" the media has told us about Romney?


    Just as much as you can site some "truths" the media has told about Obama.


    Since that was a non-answer, I'll also go off and remind you that you are posting on a webSite, but I have Cited nothing. Got me in your sights from your compound?
    4006) Message boards : Politics : My prediction for America? (Message 1302288)
    Posted 4 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 year ago, I would have said, no, it'd be another revolutionary war, as we realize these two sides are false and in cahoots. But, either that is wrong or many are too blind to see that.
    So, civil it will probably be, and it will be the producers, not those who THINK they produce. The non-producing, of course, will sit it out, as always.
    4007) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1301739)
    Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, the reason the US economy if failing is because of liberalism.

    LOL@trying to decide which person is responsible for lower unemployment in certain states. Um, hello, let's talk about people who moved OUT OF those states!?!
    The Republican governors or Obama?
    Yeah, those Republican governors drove some of the workforce out of their states.
    :P
    4008) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301736)
    Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sounds like you are endorsing the Electoral College here.




    All or none from each state is a means of preventing a pure democracy.




    +1
    4009) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1301551)
    Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Mainstream Media Bias" is an oxymoron.

    If it's mainstream, and you disagree, then it's you with the bias.


    You are quite correct, it should be "So Called Mainstream Media Bias!"

    In any case there are no journalists left in the USA. They all sold out to the all powerful fiduciary duty to the shareholders. Gotta sell the advertising, anything to whore the ads.


    And let's remember what Sarah's major was in college. :)
    P.S.-Gary, it's Friday again. :)
    4010) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301550)
    Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    ... Vote wisely.

    and vote sober.


    +1 googolplex.
    4011) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301524)
    Posted 3 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And Obama does???
    Let's get down to nuts.

    You are in favor of infinate benefits to those who do not want to work and illegals, eh?

    Answer, yes or no.


    You do not, and have never, know/known who I am voting for.
    :P

    And you wish to reveal?

    Or have something to be shy about?

    Your preference, of course.



    Q: Oh, you'd like me to connect the dots for you, lead you from A to B to C, so that your puny mind could comprehend. How boring.

    Q: Goodbye, Jean-Luc. I'm gonna miss you…you had such potential. But then again, all good things must come to an end…
    4012) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301478)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And Obama does???
    Let's get down to nuts.

    You are in favor of infinate benefits to those who do not want to work and illegals, eh?

    Answer, yes or no.


    You do not, and have never, know/known who I am voting for.
    :P
    4013) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301454)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mitt looks equally unelectable, and certaily never to be trusted

    NO professional politician is to be trusted, they all change their stripes and their lies once they are safely in office.
    But, I guess I would cast my lot with one who has not yet proven his deceit before I would cast mine with one who has already proven his.


    You're right.
    Of course.
    Mitt has no record.


















    Not as a governor.


















    And not as a captain industry.


















    You're right, he has no record of deceit.
    4014) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1301453)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least one good thing has come out of this.....

    "Big Bird" debate ensures increased halloween sales


    Dad: Here’s the deal, kid. You go up to the door and ask for candy.
    Kid: Why? What did I do to deserve them giving me candy?
    Dad: You didn’t do anything to deserve it. You get it just because you’re alive.
    Kid: OK.
    Dad: And if they don’t give it to you, you threaten them with a trick.
    Kid: Wait, I didn’t do anything to deserve it, but I have the right to get mad and threaten them with a trick if they don’t give it to me?
    Dad: That’s right.
    Kid: Are we Democrats?
    Halloween - teaching kids to be Democrats since 1947.


    OMG. Powers of observation?!? How long has been Halloween around?

    Oh. 1947. 'Cos guy sez so.

    Oh, Halloween's like Democrats? That's the holiday where all sorts of kids dress up and go around to different houses to get fee candy WHILE AT THE SAME DANG FREAKING TIME A PARENT IS BACK AT HIS HOUSE GIVING OTHER KIDS FREE CANDY, TOO?!?

    Oh. OK. He's right. Halloween demonstrates the failures of liberalism. 'Cos he sez so.
    4015) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1301448)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As long as folks other than those who work directly for President Obama bow and say "amen" to his "executive orders," ...

    A few months ago, I posted a link to a very complete list of executive orders issued by several presidents. Looking as far back as, say, George H.W. Bush or so, I noted that Obama has issued about as many as anyone who had a one-term presidency, and about 1/2 the number issued by those with two-term presidencies.
    Were you aware of this?
    Or is it that, as I asked then, the NATURE of the executive orders issued? If so, specifically, which ones? (Can we find equally bothersome executive orders issued by presidents of either side? I knew we could!)
    But, you did not participate in that discussion, to my recollection. Did you?

    Sure got quiet in here during my self-imposed two week banishment.

    I AM THE ANTOGONIST. Gotta have one in theater otherwise the play's no good.


    Vacationing Guy became Self Banished Guy became ... became "banished ID: XXX". Yes, my powers of observation remain alive, quite well (and also recognize how many times you've let your RAC slip below 10 the other times you've imposed some time away on yourself).

    A mere moment's thought provides alternate reasons for quiet: it was all because I had another run of exams to grade for all classes, plus those 12 hour days on Mondays and Wednesdays are killer.

    Oh. Say. What? There are other posters here? But you just claimed that you are the antagonist. So maybe my claim that the quiet was due to me being fairly absent explains it!
    No? Oh, could it be that at the same time, coincidentally, several other posters had a busy few weeks?
    No?

    Well, ok, you go on believing the answers are simple. That YOU are the antagonist. Others might think you have delusions of grandeur. But me? I say we'll never know for sure, one way or the other.

    And it's that ambiguity that bugs you.
    4016) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1301265)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doesn't matter who gets in the white house for the next four years.


    Doesn't matter if you're banished or not.
    You mock S@H.
    4017) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1301147)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Demon, who was once Dull and a worm, the Floyd of Pink will have it's way with you.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7mV07OlIww?
    4018) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1301137)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And don't forget to watch Jersey Shore. Tans are a little less this time of year, but, oh my...the other stuff. Who Ba.

    The DEMON...ella


    Because you invest in production of reality tv shows, speculating their popularity will continue to rise.

    I do not await your reply.
    4019) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1301135)
    Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Soft Spirit said:
    and push us all back into the ditch.


    And We Will Fill The Ditch In, This Time.

    GuidoMan said:
    just in time to crawl under


    No need to crawl, just fall. We have a Ditch For You. Covered and Properly Grave Stoned. RIP Rest In PitifulVille.


    Wow, you need to resort to something just short of death threats?
    4020) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1300854)
    Posted 1 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Soft Spirit said:
    and push us all back into the ditch.


    And We Will Fill The Ditch In, This Time.

    GuidoMan said:
    just in time to crawl under


    No need to crawl, just fall. We have a Ditch For You. Covered and Properly Grave Stoned. RIP Rest In PitifulVille.

    John T. singing Sandy for The Libber In You

    The DEMON...ella


    GREASE was awful.
    Summer Nights? ANNOYING!!!
    4021) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1300852)
    Posted 1 Nov 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing to say, my fellow Americans?!?
    This is supposedly the heart of what this election is about!
    4022) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1300685)
    Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QtDExs6lM
    4023) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1300640)
    Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Desperation has set in. Their tracking polls must be trending down. They know they are going to loose. Some jackass slapped a politician for president bumper sticker on my new car while I was in the grocery store tonight.

    Fortunately for me he didn't press it down hard and left a corner up and I caught it before the sticky hardened, so no damage. Otherwise do you have any idea what it costs to repaint a bumper cover? Felony vandalism!

    Felon for President!


    Johnson?
    4024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #48 (Message 1300634)
    Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry for the delay. This one was by request.



    "When astronomers run out of ideas for Facebook profile pictures, it really bites the Jupiter"?
    4025) Message boards : Politics : Thomas Petterfy ads (Message 1300633)
    Posted 31 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was born in a non-socialist country. I have lived my entire life in the same country. I was told, growing up, that if you were smart and worked hard, you could pull yourself up by your bootstraps. I am smart. I have worked very hard. But I have learned that Americans can have same strange ideas of what things are worth and WHAT successes are rewarded. That's not bad mouthing success. That's not some sign that I'll stop working hard. But this is the USA, and I sure as heck have the RIGHT to say that many things about our system our way out of whack.
    4026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1300464)
    Posted 30 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a 23 year pediatric speech pathologist


    Wait. You're only 23 years old?



    I wish!!! No, I have been in practice for 23 years. My chronological age is 49.


    Hmmm. I've been at my practice 21 years, but I'm a little more than 2 years younger. Chronologically.
    4027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1300463)
    Posted 30 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    37,500

    In one of the six languages you speak, right?

    Ha! Six is a slight exaggeration. I was relieved to see that my English cannot be getting too rusty after over twenty years in Germany, though.

    How high do you rate reasonably structured sentence length when evaluating linguistic abilities?


    Personally, I'd rate it very highly.
    4028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1300426)
    Posted 30 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Worked for me this time.



    I expected higher. In law school one of the things my study group did was to choose 10 words each week from the OED that none of us knew and use them for the week. Really helped build vocabulary. But then when was the last time you attended a bacchian soiree. It was actually counter productive. We were being taught how to write legal opinion in layman English.

    Many of the words are archaic, but one thing I enjoy is study of the evolution of language. English is so rich because of the various invasions, Romans, Saxons, Viking, etc. I enjoy reading old English, it's almost Germanic.

    Oh where's my ticket to the shuttle.


    Ja, das ist richtig. Aber, ich habe viel vergessen!
    4029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1300425)
    Posted 30 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a 23 year pediatric speech pathologist


    Wait. You're only 23 years old?
    4030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Navaho Taco's (Message 1300424)
    Posted 30 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People from India also fry bread. One name for it, probably mispelled, is parata.
    4031) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1300055)
    Posted 29 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember O Levels and A levels and using one of these?



    I was slightly different and used one of these instead ...



    The Oatis King spiral slide rule was accurate to 4 decimal places (depending on the size of the calculation).


    The grandfather of the calculator.
    Use a slide rule, or a table, and you are not using your own abilities for the entire problem.
    4032) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1299973)
    Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I still have mine from 1961.





    Again, my point that log(1) = 0 in any base.

    log[3](243/27) = log[3](3^5/3^3) = log[3](3^2) = 2 * log[3](3) = 2 * 1 = 2.

    Beyond that kind of manipulation, the rest will not be easy because many things cannot be (readily)written as a power of the base in question (paticularly when the power ... the exponent ... is not an integer). You had tables (as did I for just a *couple* of years) and now I have a calculator, as do my students. The technology for the "tougher" log questions has changed, but a table is still a technology of sorts.
    That is not to say that some students (and some teachers) do not do the easy things on a calculator when I can do it faster, as fast or nearly as fast in my head or on paper/blackboard/whiteboard.
    BTW, I *seem* to recall small exposure to logs in 6th grade (age 11-12 years). If not, at least I can guarantee I did work with different bases, like how to write 234 (base ten) in base five, etc. ... .
    4033) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1299809)
    Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Same for me, and the log one I plotted ...

    log(1) = 0, in any usable base.
    4034) Message boards : Politics : Monks in monasteries are hiding ET/God/Yahweh!! (Message 1299807)
    Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Johnney, if you're working for one of the US presidential campaigns, forget it. You have not swayed my attention.
    4035) Message boards : Politics : Push Poll!!! (Message 1299603)
    Posted 28 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I answered one push poll and I had to get rude with the caller.

    Basically, it was a gun lobby pushing an agenda. The questions were so slanted that by disagreeing with a remark you appear to weak on crime and anti american. I basically told the individual that I couldnt answer his questions the way he wanted. THis threw him off. He told me it was an up or down question. I disagreed insisting that the question was invalid on its face. The call devolved from there.


    LOL Skildude!!! You are one tough customer!

    I wish I had known more about the young man who called me. If he was a volunteer working for the campaign of the challenger, and willingly using these obnoxious tactics, then I wish I had really chewed him out. If, however, he was just some young person trying to do his job, then I probably shouldn't have tried to make him feel guilty about doing it. A job is a job sometimes.

    I imagine most of us have compromised our principles at least a few times in life because we could not handle the consequences of not doing so. With age and some degree of financial security it becomes easier to stand up and consistently trumpet one's core values. It is difficult to judge behavior out of context.


    When I get such calls, I start singing like some combination of Axl Rose and James Hetfield into the phone, plus hit the phone against the wall, until they hang up.
    4036) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1299525)
    Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get back on topic folks, or I'll start pressing buttons fo sho.

    With all due respect, IS there a topic?!?
    4037) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1299266)
    Posted 27 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New polls showing R-money winning by a slight margin...



    Perhaps Guy may get to keep his 50$ after all. I'm ready to give seti my 50$.

    I however will be horribly depressed about losing, because of what it could mean for this country.


    So soon now.


    2004 will pale in comparison.
    4038) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1298821)
    Posted 26 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who knows?
    The Shadow knows!!!
    4039) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1298786)
    Posted 25 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what I really hope for is organized thoughts in a single thread

    Still hoping, eh?

    Yes, I am.
    Yes, I can.
    LOL LOL LOL!!!


    I think I know that I don't know, but do you know?
    4040) Message boards : Politics : LOL.....discussing Obama's raping of our economy for his political means?????/ (Message 1298472)
    Posted 25 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It sounds like self-deportation.
    Gary, regarding which side the online test of your personality suggest you support, well, if you have not already provided us enough info, please provide you year of birth and I will feed it into the year/sex-ratio/predominant political persuasion calculator. (As described in a recent Discover magazine article: http://discovermagazine.com/2012/oct/21-sex-ratio-women-men-affects-attitudes-facial-hair-politics/?searchterm=sex%20ratio.
    4041) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1298471)
    Posted 25 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what I really hope for is organized thoughts in a single thread

    Still hoping, eh?

    Yes, I am.
    Yes, I can.
    LOL LOL LOL!!!
    4042) Message boards : Politics : LOL.....discussing Obama's raping of our economy for his political means?????/ (Message 1298443)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's that creating severally multiply vitriolicy thready thingy workin' out for ya, Mark?
    4043) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1298442)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what I really hope for is organized thoughts in a single thread

    Still hoping, eh?
    4044) Message boards : Politics : If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it? (Message 1298441)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    like the rape pillaging and genocide that occurred in the name of god. Sounds shockingly familar to modern times. It seems the more things change the more they stay the same


    Exactly, so it doesn't say much for the bible then does it?

    It really makes me wonder why anyone worships it in the first place. You can add incest, sodomy, and rule by fear and intimidation to the content. God creating horrific acts, like torturing Joeb, killing his family just to get a rise out of him. Any modern person would be given a death sentence for a tiny fraction of what God is said to have done.

    Steve

    Edit: God even had to torture and kill his own son just to make a point, that in the long run changed nothing.


    When you go on like this, you'll think you can add just about anything.
    Where did you find in The Bible that sodomy is ok? I suspect you found no such thing, not even a change in opinion (what to punish for, and what is a suitable punishment may likely have changed in other cases).
    I mean, you know the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, don't you?
    You do realize the people of Sodom were being punished for sodomy, do you not?
    Then again, Guy will wonder in here and accuse the NARW and LGBTs of thinking sodomy is a-ok.
    Last: it? So, you have the mistaken impression that people are worshiping the book? Certainly, your "it" follows the last proper noun in the quote just above your opening sentence.
    Of the things stated here today, I find myself most closely aligned to OzzFan, at least with regards to the Old Testament, much as he also finds the most horrifying things there.

    I'm not sayinbg the bible said anything is OK, only that it is mentioned, and part of the story. No, I also did not mean they are worshipping the book, only what it stands for. My wording was not as accurate as I had wished.

    Steve


    You can add incest, sodomy, and rule by fear and intimidation to the content. God creating horrific acts ...


    Considering this and several of your other posts, you are not just mentioning, you are saying The Bible says many horrific things are ok.
    Horrific things are indeed described in The Bible. Some, for lack of a better way of putting it, seem to be "horrific at the moment for the overall purpose of driving toward some good". Rather Machiavellian, now that I think about it.
    In any case, I am sure you'll find things condemned in The Bible that you also condemn.
    4045) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1298322)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    fo sho!

    Brylcreem; Mirrored Shades; Go-Tee; and White T-Shirt

    fo sho!

    The DEMON...ella


    Brylcreem, lol. You're so 1950s. :)
    People moved on to Grecian Formula in the 60s and 70s, and beyond.
    Are you still using Burma Shave and driving on roads without those yellow lines? ;)
    4046) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1298293)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having fun Gary? Next you will rail against alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription drugs. Then breathing toxic air. And then fire, fog and rain.

    Someone send Gary up against the forest fire near me! He'll beat it back, fo sho!
    4047) Message boards : Politics : Italian Scientists Convicted of Manslaughter for NOT predicting an Earthquake (Message 1298292)
    Posted 24 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    still why would anyone want to have a position that attempts to negate damage and prevent harm to others be tried and even convicted on a flimsy premise.

    I'll ask again. Isn't the persons responsibility to make ones own home safe. To make it as earthquake proof as possible. What happened to personal responsibility


    I think we have a case of reverse-Romneyism?
    4048) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1298215)
    Posted 23 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wobbly worm is good, real dull. You've won with your latest screen name change. You new screen name is better than Guy's new screen name. Time to get nothing done.
    4049) Message boards : Politics : LOL.....discussing Obama's raping of our economy for his political means?????/ (Message 1298095)
    Posted 23 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, your response to my approval of Soft Spirit/s post does not make sense to me, please spell it out for an elder. Sorry if I am slow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jx1QZskGFg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxk9PW83VCY
    4050) Message boards : Politics : Italian Scientists Convicted of Manslaughter for NOT predicting an Earthquake (Message 1298093)
    Posted 23 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would of thought such a thing could only happen in the US...


    ...just sayin'


    I say we vote to banish the phrase "just sayin'" from these fora. Also, henceforth, "my bad" shall return to "my faux pas" so we can sound classy again,
    4051) Message boards : Politics : If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it? (Message 1298011)
    Posted 22 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    like the rape pillaging and genocide that occurred in the name of god. Sounds shockingly familar to modern times. It seems the more things change the more they stay the same


    Exactly, so it doesn't say much for the bible then does it?

    It really makes me wonder why anyone worships it in the first place. You can add incest, sodomy, and rule by fear and intimidation to the content. God creating horrific acts, like torturing Joeb, killing his family just to get a rise out of him. Any modern person would be given a death sentence for a tiny fraction of what God is said to have done.

    Steve

    Edit: God even had to torture and kill his own son just to make a point, that in the long run changed nothing.


    When you go on like this, you'll think you can add just about anything.
    Where did you find in The Bible that sodomy is ok? I suspect you found no such thing, not even a change in opinion (what to punish for, and what is a suitable punishment may likely have changed in other cases).
    I mean, you know the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, don't you?
    You do realize the people of Sodom were being punished for sodomy, do you not?
    Then again, Guy will wonder in here and accuse the NARW and LGBTs of thinking sodomy is a-ok.
    Last: it? So, you have the mistaken impression that people are worshiping the book? Certainly, your "it" follows the last proper noun in the quote just above your opening sentence.
    Of the things stated here today, I find myself most closely aligned to OzzFan, at least with regards to the Old Testament, much as he also finds the most horrifying things there.
    4052) Message boards : Politics : LOL.....discussing Obama's raping of our economy for his political means?????/ (Message 1297987)
    Posted 22 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you for +1ing "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for Mitt", Betreger. :)
    Next time we have a 911, I will do as the LowestCommonDENOMinatorELLA tells me to, and "go shopping", so he can profit from his speculations.
    4053) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1297774)
    Posted 22 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what I really hope for is organized thoughts in a single thread
    4054) Message boards : Politics : LOL.....discussing Obama's raping of our economy for his political means?????/ (Message 1297772)
    Posted 22 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now THAT might be considered politics.

    But he gets away with it with you liberals.

    Now THAT might be considered obscene.


    Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for Mitt.
    4055) Message boards : Politics : What you seem to not know........ (Message 1297415)
    Posted 21 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is Obama valley........

    Perhaps then you shall get the answere to you where your hops and dreams whent to.

    We had to..........


    I prefer "hanging on in quiet desperation, it's the English way" to hope. Hope sucks. :P
    4056) Message boards : Politics : How tight is the United States budget, really? (Message 1297033)
    Posted 20 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    maybe I should take a two week break. I'm tired.)


    I'd rather you didn't. I may not agree with about 70% of what you say, and I may not like your long diatribes when you use 'stream of conscious' writing styles, I do enjoy seeing other people's perspectives. This forum would be boring if everyone agreed.


    I agree with BlankOzzManFan! :)
    4057) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1296045)
    Posted 17 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== Vote to the bring sexy back.

    ===> Hast du ein sexy back?
    4058) Message boards : Politics : How tight is the United States budget, really? (Message 1296019)
    Posted 17 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... my meager success was based purely on luck ...

    The cold war continues...


    That's you response to me?
    You twist my words.
    And you wonder why people ignore you or insult you (or you perceive them to insult you)?!?
    You insult me when you lump that brief response into a rant against "Liberals", when you know ... YOU KNOW!!! ... I am not. Barry is not. So on and so forth.
    4059) Message boards : Politics : How tight is the United States budget, really? (Message 1296018)
    Posted 17 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, I too welcome back the Major, now onto your post. I shall ignore your rather long list of straw man arguments and center on personal experience. An organization hires when it has more profitable business than it can deal with, with the current staff. Demand for goods and services is the determinant not the cost of labor per se. The quality of the labor matters much more than the cost.
    Most of the time the best deal is not the cheapest.

    Ah, if that were the case. At least you are trying to see it, but it isn't the 1950's anymore.

    Consider the Walmart customer. The Walmart customer cares not in the quality of the goods; his only care is the price tag. So having good skilled labor that produces quality goods is a determent to a company that wants to sell to Walmart consumers. Having cheap labor that makes low quality goods is an asset. And for another reason. The shorter something lasts the faster a replacement is needed and more profit can be generated in repeat sales.


    Guess that explains why some people ... young people ... 20s and 30s ... avoid WalMart? And why I, mid-40s, rarely enter it?
    4060) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1295959)
    Posted 16 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since this thread started, I've had an over riding image of Mitt Romney standing over an oven with a roasted big bird on a platter....

    ..I'm surprised that no images are available for that......

    ....it'll be a cracker of an image if someone did!


    Maybe Mitt could enlist Big Bird as a surrogate & drive him around in a cage secured to the top of one of his Cadillacs?
    4061) Message boards : Politics : "IVF" and the Virgin Mary (Message 1295815)
    Posted 16 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yay to Jesus and his magic penis!

    (I am not sure how much you know about lesbians, but they do have sex.)


    With men?
    Isn't that where the term bi gets applied, then, not lesbian?
    4062) Message boards : Politics : How tight is the United States budget, really? (Message 1295779)
    Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Suppose I were to suggest to you I was one who has always thought of my future and made decision earlier in my life to prepare for later in life? Suppose I were to suggest to you that because of my sacrifices earlier in life, because I chose to work instead of going out and partying on Friday night, I now have a little more than many?


    And now suppose I told you that just because you did that, it was not a guarantee of success, and there exist people who also did the same/similar who are not reaping those benefits. Suppose I told you a little thing called "chance" exists, no matter how much a certain poster likes to deny that. Suppose I remind you and others, again and again and again that we are not the sums of ourselves and our efforts. Our environment undoubtedly influences us.
    4063) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : No more "Junk DNA" in Human Genome (Message 1295440)
    Posted 15 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, the appendix is not junk/.
    4064) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1294553)
    Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They'll be funding it once they're annexed

    Oh no, you guys are going to try it again? The last time all you got was your capital city burned down, and poor old Dolly Madison had to take the low road out of town. Don’t forget that back then you didn’t have Big Ootpix to help you.


    You'll be annexing us.
    4065) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1294531)
    Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    VERY COOL!

    A Million Muppet March


    Soon, we can debate if a million really showed up, or how they counted, so on and so forth. ;)
    4066) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1294529)
    Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, and this reminds me of some posters in here.

    How long does it take to travel 80 miles if you're going 80 MPH?

    1 hour, provided you survive. I hear you Texans are looking for NASCAR on the public highways. ;)
    4067) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1294528)
    Posted 13 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Teeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee!

    Finally, a picture of ... .
    Nah.
    Jib.
    Jab.
    4068) Message boards : Politics : If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it? (Message 1294482)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh fer hecks sake, of course it is not going to happen! Only religious nuts believe in that sort of stuff. "It will happen because god told me so". No he didn't, just because you read something in a book that is what you want to believe, you have convinced yourself it is true. But you are too prone to exaggeration and emotional rhetoric to try to get your point across to others.

    If you feel it is your mission in life to educate and convert the world, why are you wasting your time here at Seti? Go on a lecture tour somewhere.

    Chris,
    My understanding of what you said there is that you don't think people can be cloned.


    You know that'w NOT what he said.

    Time for people to fill out DNCs, just like DNRs?
    4069) Message boards : Politics : If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it? (Message 1294477)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That has always been postulated Robert, that if there were ET visitations in the past then apart from the locals trying to record that for posterity, you would think that they would leave some sort of message that would only be found when that society was sufficiently advanced to recognise it.

    The old favourite was a marker of the far side of the moon which wouldn't be found until an unmanned probe went by at the earliest. Haven't found one yet. Parking something at one of the Le Grange points L1 or L2 is another, but we would have found that by now. Ancient stone buildings really don't cut it, nor do religious books, or Kilroy was 'ere type of stuff.

    So what would they likely have left as a message, and one that apparently we haven't found yet?

    Chris,
    Why are the 150 Pyramids down in Egypt not proof that someone was here in the past doing something suspicious?

    Remember Chris, no Pharaoh was ever found in a pyramid, so they don't know what the pyramids were built for, yet! ALL the Pharaohs were buried in the valley of the Kings, and carefully "preserved" so at a future date, DNA samples could be extracted and they could be cloned and brought back to life. The Pharaohs WILL live again. And when we clone the Pharaohs, people will revere them and treat them like Kings. They will be Kings again, and they will rule Egypt again!

    THE PROOF IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, if you just wake up and open your eyes!

    John.


    Really? Are you saying Tut was not found? Are you saying Tut was found outside his pyramid?
    And you claimed before that no pyramid was entered before 1900, yet others say that they'd be looted for centuries, and Jedifray's was looted perhaps the most, when Romans actually took it apart, largely, stone by stone, to use the stones for other purposes.
    4070) Message boards : Politics : No debate about the VP debate (Message 1294181)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go back to sleep.

    The swing voters ...

    ... don't want your spoilers.
    May the odds be ever in your favor.
    4071) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Ancient aliens "scientist" has, in my opinion, lost last trace of credibility (Message 1294028)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm working on that Giorgio look, myself.
    <===
    Am I doing ok, so far?
    4072) Message boards : Politics : Some thoughts on what it means to be a Christian (Message 1294012)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps, though the middle-eastern origin of monotheism don't help explain christmas trees, for example.


    That assumes that turning to monotheism occurred in a short time span in the middle east, assumes Christianity is the only middle eastern religion to have an impact on "western" cultures and that earlier forms of belief from the middle east (cradle of civilization?) did not spread out much earlier, does it not?

    http://discovermagazine.com/2005/aug/desert-people
    4073) Message boards : Politics : If ET wrote the Bible, would u read it? (Message 1294011)
    Posted 12 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My Bible is sexier than ETs Bible. ;)
    4074) Message boards : Politics : Some thoughts on what it means to be a Christian (Message 1293919)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the Jews and the Christians sprung from the middle east, if in fact Easter is some amalgamam of previous celebrations with the, at the time, new Christianity, it makes more sense for it to be fused with other middle eastern celebrations and customs.

    And, I am willing to bet the whole Ishtar thing had a few 100-1000 years head start, and could have made it to the isle, in some form, with Ishtar become Eostre.
    4075) Message boards : Politics : Some thoughts on what it means to be a Christian (Message 1293855)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    st the Bible is part of their history, not the totality.

    Christianity was an import to the UK that was interwoven with the original polytheist religion that was already there. Hence why we celebrate Easter (named for the goddess Oestre). Worshippers of Cercunnos (AKA, Herne the Hunter, Cerna etc) the horned god believed in a human sacrifice of the 1 year king at Easter time(or Beltane) to ensure that the crops would grow. Now we commemorate the sacrifice of Jesus at that time. Cernunnos is still remembered in pub and old English place names. The green man is still to found carved in churches.

    Every Brit knows the tale of King Arthur and although Christianity has embedded itself in British culture, the old legends and myths are still very much part of us.


    Nah, it was Ishtar, not Oestre.
    4076) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1293816)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm trying to figure out what that means.

    You sound like Clinton.
    Disgusted.


    You might want to refigure that one out, in context, redefiner.
    In the meantime, may the odds be ever in your favor.
    4077) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1293729)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Four Americans died in Benghazi.

    We've done such a great job in the past at choosing our friends (anybody remember our buddy from the 80s, named Saddam Hussein?).
    Heaven forbid we hang back a bit now and wait a little while to see who our friends should be.
    Here, Guy, I have a cake you can admire forever but eat, too. All it will cost you is 99% of what you're not currently making in taxes.
    4078) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1293705)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ]Four Americans died in Benghazi. I suppose you could reduce the seriousness of that by just calling it four extremely late abortions.


    -1

    I guess, with you, it depends on what the meaning of "abortion" is, eh?
    You sound like Clinton.
    Disgusted.
    4079) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1293684)
    Posted 11 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Four Americans died in Benghazi. I suppose you could reduce the seriousness of that by just calling it four extremely late abortions. Or, we could give it the attention it deserves and figure out who's RESPONSIBLE so we can take action to reduce the risk of more Americans dying.

    Responsibility is critical? Even mentioning something like this indicates the people inside the beltway have been in crisis for a while.

    I've been saying for a while now that we can't fix our financial mess without fixing/simplifying/adjusting the tax code so more people pay taxes and it remains somewhat progressive and and AND AND cutting spending. Killing funding for big bird is a no brainer.

    Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see if Reid is capable of compromising on anything at all after Romney moves into the white house. I suspect he'll keep doing what he's been doing and the republicans will have to figure out a way to check mate him into doing SOMETHING/ANYTHING.

    And, if by some miracle, Obama remains in the white house, it doesn't matter. Seti@home wins $50 either way.


    Killing gubment funding for NASCAR is a no brainer.
    4080) Message boards : Politics : Is the US heading towards being a secular society? (Message 1293468)
    Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Indeed, and what's the crime committed by this act under Sharia law? Sirius suggested Sharia brings the "punishment", if true, then there must be a criminal activity under Sharia. Alternatively, the Taliban and its violent supporters are a bunch of thugs that care not a jot about Sharia, though, for reasons that are not clear, many news articles mention Sharia when reporting on the thugs.

    Islam is not the only religion thugs use to justify outrageous behavior, there are Christian thugs too.


    My favoutire saying comes to mind here Bobby....

    The more one specialises the narrower one's mind gets. & another is: -

    Those that can do - those that can't teach!


    Bobby's not the teacher. I am.
    4081) Message boards : Politics : Is the US heading towards being a secular society? (Message 1293376)
    Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    tea idiots want to throw that away and invite sharia to rule the USA.

    TEA IDIOTS WANT TO THROW THAT AWAY AND INVITE SHARIA TO RULE THE USA?!

    [rant]

    Ya know, people like me are starting to get tired of trying to discuss the real issues of our nation and of the world with the likes of some of you folks in here. Whenever I start pointing out facts, the responses I get are absolutely ridiculous. It’s almost as if some of you in here are actively working to destroy the state of society. Why? I don’t know. You must think that a destroyed nation is better than the one we’re living in right now. You must think, somehow, that you will be better off in a destroyed nation. This game of politics is borderline childish. It’s almost as if you are making sure the other side doesn’t get what they want if you don’t get what you want. It’s almost as if there are childish temper tantrums in here and from the liberals across the nation. Look at what’s happening in Greece and Spain right now. You don’t know what a trillion is, do you? You don’t know the difference between deficit and debt, do you? Continuing to print more and more fiat currency is a sure path to destruction. Is that what you want here in the U.S.? Some of you still don’t understand the reality of the situations across the world. Here in the U.S. we’ve already gone over the fiscal cliff in that no matter how high you raise taxes, we will still be running a deficit. You want to raise taxes on the rich! Well well well... do you realize the current distribution of taxpayers and tax takers? Do you realize what raising taxes further on the rich will do? You don’t believe that will destroy upward mobility even further, cause even more middle class to drop down into the poor class, ruin more rich people and concentrate wealth in even fewer people chosen by the likes of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Is that what you want? Again, do you know the difference between the deficit and the national debt? The national debt is so big now, tax payers 3 or 4 or 5 generations away, yet to be born, will be paying for the debt created from the absolute lack of responsibility out of Washington DC today. And the people who created this massive debt will not be held accountable. It started in the Reagan years. Everybody blames Reagan. But did you even take notice of what the democrats in the house and senate did while Reagan was in office? NO! You refuse to look at the facts. Because the facts don’t align with what you want to believe. Those responsible are now either dead or are now living a comfortable life in an exclusive area of the country, completely insulated from liability or threats. Don’t some of you realize some of the things that have occurred lately? What do you think the Dodd-Frank bill did? Don’t you realize it forced banks to loan mortgage money to folks who could in no way shape or form ever have a chance at paying back their loan? And the bank bail out... don’t you realize that was a way to cover up the disastrous effects of the Dodd-Frank bill? And now, don’t you realize the $40B/month being printed and used to buy “mortgage backed securities” is another attempt to keep the housing market bubble from collapsing for a few more months? Don’t you realize what inflation is? Don’t you realize inflation, which devalues the dollar, which lowers the buying power of the individual American and enables the irresponsible politicians in DC to use freshly printed money at the current rate before it gets devalued shifts more and more power to the irresponsible politicians in DC? Don’t you realize the principles which made this country great are being ignored more and more and the liberal press is working to keep people misinformed because the only way for the liberal press to make money is to focus on the short-term and ignore the future? Don’t you realize that we are on a path of destruction and we’ve gone so far down this spiral that there is no other course but to start suffering now because of it? Don’t you realize the only hope we have at easing the suffering is to return to the principles which made this country great? Don’t you realize that freedom works? And that socialism/Marxism/communism fails every time it’s tried? What would you have done after some Muslim extremists stole our planes and drove them into our buildings killing almost 3,000 people from 80 different countries in world trade center? What would you have done differently? Say, “I’m sorry?” Do you want Al Queda and the Muslim brotherhood to continue to grow in strength and numbers? Do you actually believe the religion of peace is a religion of peace? Do you women in here really want to implement Sharia law? Do you even know what Sharia law is? You think women don’t have equal rights right now? You think the Equal Rights Amendment failed because of angry white Anglo-Saxon protestant males? Don’t you realize ERA was never about equal rights, it was about special privileges and when NOW realized what the ERA was going to do THEY were the ones who killed it? We already live in a society of gender-neutral laws. We treat women like women (except for the women who don’t want to be treated like ladies) and the ERA would have force us to treat all women like men. Is that what you wanted? Back to Al Queda and the Muslim brotherhood... Did you realize what was going on in Iraq shortly after that with Hussein and his two evil sons? No, you kept on repeating the mantra, “Bush lied, people died” and there were no WMDs. What would you have done if the general consensus from NATO countries was that there were WMDs as president of the U.S.? HUH? What would you have done? Said, sorry, that’s not my business—neither Iraq nor Afghanistan. Let Hussein and his two absolutely evil sons continue terrorizing its citizens. Let Hussein keep working towards creating WMDs. Let those tribes in Afghanistan continue training its children to become terrorists because when the time comes, all they have to do is press the button, have the bombs explode on their chests and they’d be rewarded with 72 virgins. That would have been OK for you as president of the U.S. or even as a reasonable human being? Now we have U.S. citizens being killed in Benghazi, Syria is mortaring Turkey, and Iran is months away from nuking Israel. Are you OK with this? You think the U.S. should just stand back and let them do it? Are you thinking in some sort of sick twisted way that maybe that would be a good thing because it would be a way to thin the heard a bit on this planet, thus reducing global warming and saving the planet? At the cost of WWIII? You think this would be a good thing? You think we are consuming too much of the earths resources even though we are a minority on the planet so anything that lowers our standard of living is a good thing? There are still people dying to cross our borders because we still have more freedom here than in most other places on this planet and you think that’s a bad thing? You thing the U.S. is a bad decision from the very beginning because some of our founding fathers honestly thought there was divine intervention at the beginning of the great nation? You think the revolutionary war should have been lost? You think Canada should be facing a 75% tax on the rich to fix Frances problems now? You think Queen Elizabeth should still be taxing us without representation to solve the problems in East London? You think everything south of the Big River should be under control of Spain? Well, get over your hard feelings, that’s all water under the bridge and some of us are getting tired of you liberals continuing to screw things up and then complain about it. You keep working to destroy the institutions of this great nation such as the Boy Scouts of America because they are a private organization that frowns upon homosexuality but teaches self-reliance, personal responsibility and a positive work ethic towards society. You liberals keep working to destroy the basic unit of this the country, the family by taxing married man/woman more in taxes than the single dog who goes around impregnating the whores of society. You encourage single parents and gay adoption and think this is good for society. You encourage the behavior demonstrated on the Jerry Springer show. You cheer and congratulate 16-year-old teenagers in high school when they get pregnant and the father is gone. You cheer and congratulate anyone who comes out of the closet and say that’s a good thing. You want to force the producers of society who believe in God to pay for things that go against their beliefs. You keep saying their beliefs are outdated and racists/bigoted/homophobic. You fail to realize the reason for some of those beliefs because time has passed you by, you refuse to look at history, and you can’t see for yourself the results of those beliefs. You refuse to look at the facts and keep distorting the truth in order to do what? Just what is it you are trying to do? Whether you realize it or not, you are reducing the capacity of this nation to remain a guiding light to the dreams of many the world over. You are destroying a nation that was created like no other time in history. You are destroying the only nation left who can reach out and actually help others in dire straights. But you don’t want that anymore. You want it all yourself. You refuse to admit the fact that you are a leech on society and you want more. You’ve been trained from generation to generation and made to believe you can’t do anything for yourself and you have a right to take from others who can do for themselves. You are working to create a world of over 200 political entities, all going to war with each other to become the next leader of the world. Is that what you want? Hugo Chavez just won re-election. Do you actually want someone like him telling you how to live and how much to give him? Do you really want another Stalin/Hitler/Pol Pot/etc to rise to power over the world? I’m telling you, there are still people out there that will bring back the statement, “give me liberty or give me death!” and mean it. Is that what it’s going to take to get some of you to realize what you’re bringing to the nation/world? You want it to be too late before you admit what you’re doing is destroying a nation? What’s going to happen when you can no longer afford gasoline and the solar panel on your roof only gives one luke warm shower in the summer per day? What are you going to do when it takes you an hour to walk to the grocery store to spend a week’s wages on a loaf of bread, a bottle of milk (if they have any) and there are no more trees in your back yard to cut down for a fire? Is that what it’s going to take? Well, we’re well on our way to a world dictator. This health care debacle is a giant step to moving towards destroying this nation and giving more credence to the uninformed about how we need one world dictator. The health care bill was passed purely by democrats (and only after bribing 5 democrat senators with money they can use for their own personal pet project and for their own grab towards more power in thier own districts) and has now been deemed the largest tax hike in history. What did it bring us? We now have an unwritten right to free health care. Free health care which includes free abortions, free sex change operations and million dollar operations to extend the lives of some specially selected people by a few months because they played a part in the total take over of the big pile of money created by our fathers and grandfathers. Since Obama takes the place for God for some of you liberals in here, he (or his dictator replacement) will now first decide if you are allowed to live through the use of a death panel as long as you are still inside your mother, but that will soon be extended to up to two years old or some arbitrary number to account for the burocratic blunders of another totally inefficient government agency and then decide if you are to be taken away from your mother to be raised by the government (hitler and a few other gems in world history did this) and then when you are no longer able to pick enough rice to meet your daily quota out in the fields you will be deems a burden to society and will be allowed to die from the first ailment that hits you while those in charge will sit in their castles, smoking thier cigars, drinking their whiskey and what ever other chemically induced euphoria they are doing will get all the medical attention available when the lung cancer or what ever ails them starts to make an appearance. Why do some of you want this? Have you no shame? Freedom works. Socialism/Marxism/communism doesn’t.


    You may or may not realize this but the more you tear down the conservative, the more the conservative is going to prepare for what’s coming and guess what? The conservative will still have more to eat, more heat in the winter and a more comfortable place to live. And when the temper tantrums start, the conservative will still have unregistered automatic and semi-automatic weapons, black powder rifles and defensive perimeters while you starving grasshoppers will still be outside complaining about the ant having more.

    [/rant]


    I'll be plenty warm since I'm a northeasterner (over 1/2 my life spent there, still) and not in the northeast. Moreover, I use less gas than a lot of you. ;)
    4082) Message boards : Politics : Romney to cook Big Bird............. (Message 1293352)
    Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The people who run the Chidren's workshop are multi-millionaires yet they were given over a miilion dollars out of our last stimulus package. It created about 1.5 jobs.

    Screws loose somewhere.


    Link.
    4083) Message boards : Politics : Is the US heading towards being a secular society? (Message 1293351)
    Posted 10 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We have made some terrible decisions when religion has intruded on our government.


    So, the founding of The United States of America was a terrible decision.

    Got it.

    Yes, the total and complete suppression of state religion was a fantastic decision. Unfortunately some tea idiots want to throw that away and invite sharia to rule the USA.



    Oh, you're getting that there now? Welcome to the club!


    AND this is what Sharia Law brings: -

    Outcry over attack on 14 year old girl


    Could you be a little more specific? What crime under Sharia do you believe was being enforced?


    She was speaking out against the Taliban, which was tying to curtail her education.
    4084) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : 2012 - real or not? (Message 1292685)
    Posted 8 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Original thread closed. Credit Johnney Guinness.

    ?
    4085) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : No more "Junk DNA" in Human Genome (Message 1292684)
    Posted 8 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps you'll answer this one after being asked three times:

    Why do you believe that tRNAs never evolve via random mutation?

    I'm sorry Bobby,
    Perhaps i won't answer the question. See if you can figure out why.

    John.


    Uhhh ...
    uhhh ...
    uhhh ...


















    Why?
    4086) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1292557)
    Posted 7 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am sure people are using quotes to serve their own agendas, and cherrk-pick.
    So, I am gathering just a "few" sites you can peruse, and as I gather and copy and paste the links, we may find evolving perspectives from Einstein. Read for yourself, and, of course, we may also be skeptical of the agendas of the website authors.

    http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/einstein.htm
    http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp
    http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/EinsteinGodReligionScience.htm
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/albert-einstein-god-letter-ebay-auction-3-million-religion_n_1940726.html
    http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm
    4087) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1292135)
    Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know when it started, but we human beings are just another link in a very long unbroken chain of intelligent scientific peoples that have done this for a very long time. And we will repeat the process.

    So then I can see a brotherhood of beings gatherd around the intergalactic telly laughing themselves silly at the reallity show of their handywork. Look planet xyz just wiped out this city with a nuke. Think they can survive untill they grow up?

    As parent you dont let your kids do what ever they want unsupervised, you teach them and guide then and correct them when they do wrong.

    If thats how this club of immortals works, Maybe we dont want to join them.


    I think I saw this on South Park. Or was it the reimagined Battlestar Galactica?
    4088) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1291883)
    Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If there is a God, "He" gave me the high intelligence I possess, and that includes knowing the difference between "your" and "you're". :)
    4089) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : No more "Junk DNA" in Human Genome (Message 1291849)
    Posted 6 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your a child of God Bobby. And God loves you. God wants you to research this topic and learn about what he created. God whats you to learn so you will understand what happened in your past. Your not a monkey Bobby, you never were, and your never going to be a monkey.

    John.


    Until, after his death, when Judgement Day arrives, and he is cloned/resurrected into a monkey body with a human mind, unable to speak with his fellow evolutionists' in monkey bodies, because monkeys can't speak? This for his sin believing in evolution?
    4090) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1291822)
    Posted 5 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clearly, the previous comment is in error, as 150-160 years later, people are still arguing against evolution and so many believe The Bible. Or, before I chose agnosticism, I was willing to accept evolution as one of God's mechanisms.

    Regarding cognitive science and believing easier to believe stories: Leading Minds.
    4091) Message boards : SETI@home Science : UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not? (Message 1291036)
    Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting that no one here has discussed the former Arizona governor's second reaction. I think his name is ... Fife Symington?
    4092) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : No more "Junk DNA" in Human Genome (Message 1291034)
    Posted 4 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the ENCODE team deserve credit, big credit, and big publicity! Its time to reverse the public misconception that some of the code in your DNA is junk. None of your DNA code is junk, none of it!

    Don't know about yours.
    99% of mine is junk.
    Want it? LOL?
    Actually, do you have any cute single female relatives?

    LOL.....:)

    John.


    Aged 28 to mid 40s?
    4093) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290935)
    Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having read Genesis,and played their Abacab album, you certainly do need to explain.

    I don't recall reading anything about what God was doing in his scheming ways before the Darkness at the beginning.

    skildude,
    Its ok if you don't understand. Of all the people in human history, you skilldude were born into an age with the internet. You had access to more information that any other generation in human history. So you had plenty of time to check if human evolution theory was correct. You choose to be lazy and not bother to check.


    That is a flame.
    And maybe he just asked nicely.
    I've been more blunt: I do not believe you.
    If God exists, maybe I am not allowed to question Him/Her/It, but nothing has ever prevented me from doubting a fellow human. There are no sacred writs indicating I should believe you nor anyone else.
    4094) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1290933)
    Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I shall miss the original airing of the debates, due to a work day nearly 12 hours long. Don't worry, Dull, it's real work, even if you do not understand this. Don't worry, Mitt, I'm in the 53%.
    4095) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290723)
    Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Indeed, I posted about it a few weeks/months ago.

    Similarly, try converting x = 0.121212... to a fraction.
    100x = 12.1212... .
    So, 99x=12.
    x = 12 / 99 - 4 /33.
    4096) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290507)
    Posted 3 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What was god doing before the creation? Laying down the groundwork for Maths, so that once the creation was finished, the "many" can be bamboozled by the "few".

    No bamboozling.
    4097) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290477)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 - 0.999999... = 0, just like Sarge hinted at.

    Where was that chink?


    Indeed.
    4098) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290330)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are those here who do not believe that:

    (infinity) * 1 / (infinity) = 1

    is a true statement.

    This because an application of the associative and communicative laws results in:

    {1 / (infinity)} + {1 / (infinity)} + {1 / (infinity)} {repeated (infinity) times} = 1

    If they were to believe that, then any positive probability for the universe and given an infinity of time results in certainty that the universe arose from random chance.

    Of course in Algebra we are taught that: A * 1/A = 1. There is no special magic by replacing A by (infinity).

    I dont believe it because I know that infinity/infinity its not equal to 1.

    It happens that Infinity its not necessarily equal to infinity. (there are infinite points in a line, there are infinite points in a plane, and its not hard to see that there should be more points in a plane than in a line... thats because the number of points in the plane is an infinite of a higher order of magnitude than the number of points in the line (and my wording its not fully right as there are no such thing as the "number of points in a line" because the set of points that belongs to a line is a not an enumerable set).

    infinity / infinity, 0 * infinity, 1/0, 0/0 and 1/infinity are undeterminated values and the result of such operations can only be solved using limits and knowing the function that gives the "infinity" or "zero" value.

    You can say that the limit when n tends to infinity of n/n is equal to 1
    But, the limit when n tends to infinity of n/n^2 (which is also infinity/infinity) equals 0... Take out the magic word "limit" and you will get that 0 = infinity/infinity = 1 => 0=1!! Avada Kedabra!

    (I just hope that all this makes sense in english... Ive learned maths in spanish, and learned english mostly reading things on internet, so its highly probable that Im not using the right "technical" words...)


    c^2 = c.
    If you want something larger than c, you need the cardinality of the power set of the reals, for example.
    4099) Message boards : Politics : Time for the BBC to go? (Message 1290269)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's like giving terrorists front page headlines, it gives them credence & as for the bleedin' heart liberals that run it, just gives them credence to keep producing crap programs as it ensures their ratings.


    Not having watched the program at all, I would like to comment on this part since you brought up terrorists and 9/11:

    How else are you supposed to highlight a particular thread of thought, examine it, and show the world why that type of thinking is wrong? The only way you're going to do it is by talking about it; bringing it out into the open and asking people for their thoughts on the subject, and correcting/challenging people when you believe they're wrong.

    That is the very basis for freedom of speech, and that seems to be the very point for the Politics thread. I imagine it's the reason why Matt Giwer was allowed to speak his anti-semetic hatred here. No one is necessarily giving people a free forum for which to spew their hatred; they're being exposed for the frauds they are. If they persist, the whole world turning their metaphorical back on them is the ultimate message.

    Not talking about these things is the worst thing you can do. I would only hope that the victims of the families understand this. Too many subjects are considered taboo, and we never learn from those mistakes because no one wants to confront them. The bravest thing a victim's family could do is to allow the talking to happen in hopes that people will gain a better understanding of why something was wrong. Bernie even said that all but one were already re-thinking their positions - that's the best thing that could happen and the victim's families should be elated over this.


    +1
    4100) Message boards : Politics : Time for the BBC to go? (Message 1290268)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the world of the conspiracy theorists. We have the whack jobs over here spouting the same nonsense.

    Nobody in washington DC can keep a secret but yet we are to belive that 9-11 was planed years in advance. Yeah right.


    Common sense would seem to suggest this is true. It's too big (not in the I'm Worried Guy big gubment, necessarily, but, big in some sense) for secrets not to get out.
    But, wait. Where's the evidence?
    Any data to back this up?
    If not, well, I am comfortable believing that they can keep a lot more secrets than most of you could believe, and this whole "gubment's too big for us to keep a secret" has been a major part of their disinformation scheme.
    4101) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290267)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You are correct, but purists would use a dot or line over the first decimal figure. But of course you would never be that picky ... ;-))




    My question about the equality or otherwise of 1/3 and 0.333333.... was to William Rothamel, I'll wait for his answer.

    While waiting, and seeing as you have time on your hands, maybe you could answer what is 1 - 0.999999....?


    No, betreger, nothing has changed, but William wants to bring in another, currently nonstandard view, the hyperreals.
    From the standard view, the equalities Bobby and I state ae correct.
    And if Chris does not want to answer, I'll wait precisely 0 seconds before giving bobby my version of the answer. :)
    4102) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290266)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You are correct, but purists would use a dot or line over the first decimal figure. But of course you would never be that picky ... ;-))



    I would, but both are accepted conventions and, short of embedding a pic or maybe ... maybe looking up an arcane bbcode, the ellipsis is preferable,
    4103) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1290265)
    Posted 2 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sigh .........

    1/3 is a fraction. To convert that to base 10 decimal the answer is 0.33333..... recurring, an approximation. There is no direct equivalent. You are trying to combine two number systems.


    We've been down this road before. And, as I said, barring any discussion of hyper-reals, indeed 1/3 = 0.3 (repeating 3), i.e. 0.333... .

    To say it is combining two number systems would thus reject 1/2 = 0.5, but I doubt anyone has any problem with that one, eh?
    4104) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1290126)
    Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My, just love the Bush tax cuts were for the uber-rich only.


    I hsven't heard a single person claim that, verbally or in an online post.
    As it is, such a person would then have a hard time explaining the so-called attempts to hold on to the tax cuts for the middle class (and let the ones for the rich expire).
    4105) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1289928)
    Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, you seem to have missed a critical point here -- taxes by the Federal government are at their lowest level in over 60 YEARS.

    Guy's the one that has said the Dems have controlled or almost completely controlled the US gubment for the past 70 years. I think both Phil Collins and Ozzy have both sung about calling it black when I know that it's white.
    4106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Remember the Nez Controversy? (Message 1289925)
    Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems to me that plagiarism is a form of using someone else's resources without permission. Hmm.

    Strictly speaking, plagiarism is more properly passing off someone elses work as your own original work. You can buy MSc and PhD thesis's on line these days for example. But it applies in principle to this matter.

    As someone who knows the results/ramifications of a superior being accused of plagiarism in a grant proposal, I'm having a hard time with quoting in an e-mail (without citation) also being called plagiarism a bit hard to swallow.
    If that's the case, apply that to EVERY post here. EVERY post on a social networking. And so on.
    4107) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1289921)
    Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godel simply stated that in our system of Algebra we cannot prove every provable hypothesis or theorem. We must appeal to outside thinking to do so. I don't think that that implies that there are things that we can't eventually figure out--at least in terms of how we abstract our view of reality.

    Frankly, I have had a hard time convincing myself that Godel didn't just prove that you can't prove a contradiction. I have had a formal course in Logic but I still wonder.


    As I have said multiple times, the natural sciences rely on mathematics, and are therefore bound by it ... its use of axiomatic reasoning ... the fact that there are indeed axioms, on the one end, and at the other, that there will always be a set of statements which cannot be a determination of truth or falsehood. (I am not sure William if your first line is a typo or the source of your difficulty. Nonetheless, yes, it would be worthwhile to reexamine his proof.)
    4108) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1289885)
    Posted 1 Oct 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's been quite a lot said in here but I haven't been offered a satisfying answer.
    The only response that sort of tried was to state God exists outside our time frame. Still most disappointing.

    Who cares if God exists outside our time frame? What was he doing where ever he was?

    The followers of religious beliefs like to insert religion as an explanation when science admits that it has no answer at this time. An admission such as this doesn't mean that there truly is no answer, it just means that science hasn't found it yet.
    Here was a golden opportunity for the Godists to show their stuff, and they have failed, again.


    One thing I must remind people of is that, no, science will not at some point be able to answer everything. See Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. (This is not a comment on anything but what I've said.)
    4109) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1288936)
    Posted 28 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Certain things have more than one possible outcome, such as flipping a coin. Sample space = {Heads, Tails}.
    We cannot predict in advance of a coin toss which side it will land on. "We do not believe in clairvoyance." [smile]. ;-)
    However, though we cannot predict the individual outcomes of these random events, in the long run, patterns of regularity emerge.
    1 / 10^(10^128) is a calculation of a chance ... a probability. Such numbers should not be referred to by those who have rejected chance. (But, of course, such people have also rejected clairvoyance, and are now in an awfully muddy circle.)
    4110) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1288601)
    Posted 27 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, to get back toward the source topic, Romney, who pushed for the mandate in Massachusetts in part to reduce ER traffic by those without insurance (which he decried as not cost effective use of resources), has now stated as part of his 'repeal the ACA' -- that folks would thus become 'uncovered' could use the ER.

    I wish the folks pulling Romney's puppet strings could keep their story straight.


    Hmmm. In the past 1-2 weeks, I could swear I heard *him* say that, in the repeal, he'd *replace* it with something better, but it would *retain* the "best parts of" the ACA. In this version of the story, then, Federal Government still imposes health insurance of some kind. This rather than the states, localities or individuals.
    4111) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1288543)
    Posted 27 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    is proof that they have lost control of the penal codes.

    not everyone understood the Ant and the Grasshopper and many still don't.


    Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you, you right-wing extremist. I, too, am a right-wing extremist according to many folks.


    You're the only one to call him an extremist.
    And he has indicated before he's not siding with you.
    4112) Message boards : Politics : What the US Presidential election will boil down to. (Message 1287721)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fuel prices have close to doubled

    B.S.-they were close to $4 in the summer in 2008, they are now again close to $4, but I do not recall them falling below $3 in the last 4 years. If they'd doubled in the last 4 years, they would not be $7-$8.

    Did a Big Mac, fries and a drink cost $6.00 four years ago?

    Just about, yes!

    Did your clothes cost as much?

    Pretty much.

    I know it's not Obama's fault specifically but that's what the President is there for.


    No, you have personal responsibility as well.
    4113) Message boards : Politics : Are Robots taking our jobs? (Message 1287598)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this takes the jobs of three people


    Bit optimistic there aren't you. If you do the figures of machine working 24/7/365 and people doing 35/week then there needs to be a min of 5 people working. And that assumes the people work for every one of the 35 hours and is not sick or want holidays etc. etc.

    So I would say "this takes the jobs of seven people"

    But you would need 7 robot maintenance, repair people at a higher rate of pay.


    Whichever answer Johnney receives first, he will disagree with and tell us the old book will reveal in a few years how very wrong we are.
    4114) Message boards : Politics : Immortality: Can we extend human lifespan? (Message 1287597)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By the mere power of communication, ideas can be immortal.


    Keep searchin',
    Martin


    Whichever answer Johnney receives first, he will disagree with and tell us the old book will reveal in a few years how very wrong we are.
    4115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #47 (Message 1287595)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes me too Julie. But thanks for the win Celt, I'll get back with something asap.

    I don't think we've had this one before.



    "The bad news, Robin, is we've lost our uniforms. But, the good news is this makes a lot better time than the Batmobile!"
    4116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give Us A Caption #47 (Message 1287579)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes me too Julie. But thanks for the win Celt, I'll get back with something asap.

    I don't think we've had this one before.



    "Gosh darn it, Paul, I'm the one steering here!"
    "Gollygeewilligers, sorry, Mitt!"
    4117) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : No more "Junk DNA" in Human Genome (Message 1287575)
    Posted 25 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the ENCODE team deserve credit, big credit, and big publicity! Its time to reverse the public misconception that some of the code in your DNA is junk. None of your DNA code is junk, none of it!

    Don't know about yours.
    99% of mine is junk.
    Want it? LOL?
    Actually, do you have any cute single female relatives?
    4118) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1287533)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    greater access to contraceptives leads to increased sexual activity, do you have data to support this argument?


    Don't need data to support this argument. It's really quite simple. Taking away the consequences of poor choices made by minors gives them the freedom to continue making those poor choices, thus, increasing the number of poor choices being made. Another way of saying this is that it is being encouraged.


    That's what asking for data is all about, bro'uddy!
    Your comment seems reasonable, on the surface, to a lot of people.
    Get the data. See if "common sense" is really sense or nonsense. It can go EITHER way.
    4119) Message boards : Politics : Gender Bias (Message 1287516)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, considering that I originally trained to teach at the secondary level (12-18 year olds), I never heard of men returning from WWII to become teachers in large numbers here.


    There might be reasons for that. In UK and a lot of the British Empire conscription started at 17.5 years and in UK generally took precedence over college/unversity entrance, the immediate need was higher.

    In the US WW2 started over 2 years later, and conscription, over 18 years old, could be deferred if in college or with proof of college acceptance until the end of the 4 year degree program. So most even if conscripted would not have served overseas.


    Thanks, WK.
    4120) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1287501)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is a decent argument about wanting to both provide support for people who need it and ideally to have that support empower people to rise above the need for that support over time.

    What it seems Romney (and others) have not a clue about is that absent the support, our country would be a poorer place and not just for those who get the support.

    What it seems some liberals are confused about is that, improperly handled, that support can create a level of dependency for some segment of the population which also makes the country a poorer place.

    It isn't the temporary 'welfare mothers' that we should focus on (except as models of what the programs can do) -- they can be folks that don't have Romney's parents to help them. Rather, some attention should be placed on 'permanent recipients' -- particularly the younger permanent recipients -- to see if there are ways to make the government aid operate as a 'leg up' as the referenced article demonstrates.


    Why THANK YOU Barry! That's the most balanced thing I've seen you write in a while. Keep going brother!


    I'm sure, by now, that Barry has pointed out he has posted several other balanced things, frequently, in the past, but that your perspective would not admit them as balanced. Seriously, if you're like that with a fellow Republican, this country truly is doomed.
    4121) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1287451)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning-after Pills Available at 13 NYC Schools

    NEW YORK (AP) - The New York City Department of Education is making the morning-after-pill available to high school girls at 13 public schools. The DOE says girls as young as 14 will be able to get the Plan B emergency contraception without parental consent. Parents have been notified about the CATCH pilot program and how their daughters can opt out of it. City Council Speaker Christine Quinn says she supports the program because high school students are sexually active and getting pregnant. The city says about 7,000 girls get pregnant by the time they reach the age of 17. It says more than half choose to get an abortion. NYC schools already distribute free condoms to students.

    Why are we encouraging sexual activity in teenagers in NYC?

    scratch scratch scratch...


    Why are they providing without the knowledge of parents? Why are they providing without prescriptions?
    4122) Message boards : Politics : Gender Bias (Message 1287322)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There were at best 2 or 3 male teachers in my decent size elementary school. This was the mid-to-late 70s. I do not think your reason applies.

    Oh yes it does. There were several boys in my daughter's high school class who were considering becoming teachers. They changed their minds when one of the incidents mentioned above happened.

    T.A.


    Though we are all (those of us posting in here) in countries in the UK or fomerly part of it, we do share some common culture.
    However, you perhaps are forgetting that in the US (my country), throughout the 1800s, we were spreading from one coast to the other, and you can bet that the simple version of women were left to teach while men did other things is still fairly accurate.

    Check Australian history, The timelines are very similar.

    Maybe here in Oz, more returning WW2 servicemen chose to become teachers than in the US. Most of my male teachers were about the right vintage for that. I can only quote from my experience.

    Over the years the situation has changed and now most teachers here are female, and one of the reasons is that men are not going into teaching because of the fear of harassment charges.

    T.A.


    Well, considering that I originally trained to teach at the secondary level (12-18 year olds), I never heard of men returning from WWII to become teachers in large numbers here.
    4123) Message boards : Politics : I guess I am not quite done here............ (Message 1287314)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or ... ?
    4124) Message boards : Politics : The Gospel as spoken by Mitt Stupid.......................... (Message 1287302)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, He hasnt missed the point. Its called satire. I get it. If Mitt is the best the republicans can put forward, And he still shoots himself in the foot ...

    And the stupid stuff he REALLY does should be enough to go on. THAT in itself is RIFE with satirical opportunities.
    4125) Message boards : Politics : Gender Bias (Message 1287301)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There were at best 2 or 3 male teachers in my decent size elementary school. This was the mid-to-late 70s. I do not think your reason applies.

    Oh yes it does. There were several boys in my daughter's high school class who were considering becoming teachers. They changed their minds when one of the incidents mentioned above happened.

    T.A.


    Though we are all (those of us posting in here) in countries in the UK or fomerly part of it, we do share some common culture.
    However, you perhaps are forgetting that in the US (my country), throughout the 1800s, we were spreading from one coast to the other, and you can bet that the simple version of women were left to teach while men did other things is still fairly accurate.
    4126) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1287294)
    Posted 24 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1 to Skil's last post.


    Why you all over me brother Sarge? I tried responding to skil's last post but it got hidden for blasphemy or something. Having been a public high school teacher I guess I'm not allowed to mention any truth in here about the public school system these days. I've moved on.

    Come to think of it, I've seen an increase in heat in these forums in the last week or so. I wonder why.


    Who?
    Anywhosiewhatsis, I'd guess you let slip a swear word along with the response, or something like that, but think you're still smelling like roses.

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    4127) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1287109)
    Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +1 to Skil's last post.
    4128) Message boards : Politics : The Gospel as spoken by Mitt Stupid.......................... (Message 1287107)
    Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Make this stuff up? I am a Canadian; I can assure you there is nothing I could think of that would surpass anything that has come out of the GOP in 2012. I am certain that Mr O’Bama is in fact part Irish; also part German, English, and Laplander as well.
    I am gravely concerned that this all bugs you, and I want you to know that I will be taking your feeling under consideration just as soon as I want to. I have fact checked your charge that I make up things. I must say that after extensive consideration I find your charges to be just that.
    If you find that I have missed anything don’t worry, I’ll think of it later.
    For those of you who have found this to be a bit too much reading all in one go, there could be images at eleven.


    You really ... really ... REALLY miss the point.
    4129) Message boards : Politics : Gender Bias (Message 1287101)
    Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I was in primary school, the ratio was 50/50. When I was in high school the ratio was 80% male to 20% female.


    There were at best 2 or 3 male teachers in my decent size elementary school. This was the mid-to-late 70s. I do not think your reason applies.
    4130) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1286881)
    Posted 23 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What caused this? Obama dropped the requirement the do 20 hours training to get a job per week.

    Left the decision of what requirements to make to state and local governments? If correct, then I would think a Libertarian would be happy.

    The State's Rights part is very happy. The anti-entitlement part is disgusted. It is never the function of the Government to have entitlement programs. If a private entity wants to do entitlement fine, but no citizen should be forced at gunpoint to provide entitlements. An entitlement is for the good of one, not the common good, and not a function of government.

    I imagine you find Unemployment Insurance an entitlement, and probably the worst one of all. Suppose someone takes it for ONE MONTH? Finds another job in the same field, thus continuing to provide a much needed service and contributing to society (and the economy) in other ways?

    Myself and Gary have already had the discussion about unemployment benefits. I really am bothered by his take on it. I'm all for reforming the system into something that does a better job of making sure receivers are out looking for a job, but I have said it before and will say it again, if I ever loose my job the first thing I would do is file for UI, I pay into it weekly and that's what it's there for. I also would have a new job in less than a month as my trade is somewhat useful in my city, but I do NOT think unemployment is an entitlement, I think it's a protection.

    I agree, though I do not know, for the person mentioned, in either state, whether the person pays directly in.
    However, if it's as Gary suggests (the employer pays in), well, guess what? Then they probably wee paying the employee a lower amount to offset also paying into UI,
    4131) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1286692)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you admit the point that the politicians in DC have been "influenced" by a constant stream of well funded lobbyists from the financial sector and other areas (...is an understatement...) and that this is one of the main reasons no action has so far been taken ?


    Another way of asking that very same question is, "Do you believe there is corruption in DC?"

    Do you really need to see me answer that question?

    ok.

    YES.

    Now, which side is more subject to corruption is a subject of debate. But I believe it'll serve no purpose to bother trying to agree on anything there because some people in here look at the exact same thing, but describe completed opposite things.

    I believe the first step to recovery (if a recovery is still possible) is to do a budget in accordance with the law. <---- I'm being very gentle on how I word that statement because I don't want to offend any Obama supporters in here. Romney has alluded to the fact that we need to do a budget, but hasn't outright stated it. I believe that'll be one of the first things he demands from congress. That'll be a start in the right direction. (Now, if that's not reaching out and being civil to the folks who call me names and put down everything I say in here, I don't know what is.)



    Hi, Guy!
    4132) Message boards : Politics : Death, do you fear it? (Message 1286690)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, another thread, because these thoughts cannot be organized in one thread.
    4133) Message boards : Politics : Anti Mohammed Movie? (Message 1286687)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:





    Love your lack of response.


    3rd pic - is that a smile or a grimace?

    Don't see any Inman's or chairmen of any Muslim Councils apologising.....


    Well, it's a start ... .
    4134) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1286684)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What caused this? Obama dropped the requirement the do 20 hours training to get a job per week.

    Left the decision of what requirements to make to state and local governments? If correct, then I would think a Libertarian would be happy.

    The State's Rights part is very happy. The anti-entitlement part is disgusted. It is never the function of the Government to have entitlement programs. If a private entity wants to do entitlement fine, but no citizen should be forced at gunpoint to provide entitlements. An entitlement is for the good of one, not the common good, and not a function of government.

    I imagine you find Unemployment Insurance an entitlement, and probably the worst one of all. Suppose someone takes it for ONE MONTH? Finds another job in the same field, thus continuing to provide a much needed service and contributing to society (and the economy) in other ways?
    4135) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1286683)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only a fool who does not understand genetic engineering would dare to challenge the word of God!

    Johnney, I'm sorry, what the heck has HAPPENED to you in 5-6 years?!?
    Has it really transformed you SO MUCH that you now think the people who understand genetic engineering is anywhere near a majority of the world's population?!? Who painted you this very rose picture of the state of education across the world?!?

    Sarge,
    I will tell you exactly what happened to me.

    You did not answer the question Has it really transformed you SO MUCH that you now think the people who understand genetic engineering is anywhere near a majority of the world's population?!? Who painted you this very rose picture of the state of education across the world?!?[/quote]
    I suspect some of us think something else happened to you, but are coddling you.
    4136) Message boards : Politics : The Gospel as spoken by Mitt Stupid.......................... (Message 1286679)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am not happy with this thread. It offends me.

    Can I start a thread labeled, "Shining moments in Obamania...."


    No. Why? Because you'd forget the Limbaughism "I don't need to make this stuff up, people!"
    Mitt's said enough ridiculous things, but Celt feels he needs to make extra stuff up, when there's no need. Plus, he thinks there's an apostrophe in Obama: wouldn't calling him O'Bama indicate you think he's an Irish American?
    4137) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1286515)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL I guess I must be middle of the road then, I pretty much voted R until my early 40's then I gravitated to mostly D the last 25 years or so.
    ____________


    If you are not Democratic when you are young you have no heart. If you are not Republican when you are older you have no brain.

    You are a candidate for the wizard of OZ. Maybe you should change your name to OZfan, Er perhaps OZfan2


    I know you're an intelligent man, William, but when it comes to politics, why do you tell the simple stories? (Follow the link, rethink Occam's Razor.)

    P.S.-Hi, Guy!
    4138) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1286491)
    Posted 22 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Barry, shame on you, trying to logical or pragmatic does not seem to be part of today's politics.

    +1!!!
    (Hi, Guy!)
    4139) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1286419)
    Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Middle of the road is someone who has voted for both Democratic and Republican presidential candidates across their voting history, in nearly equal numbers, and I would be willing to be that, as I have done just that, I am a very small minority here.
    4140) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1286114)
    Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What caused this? Obama dropped the requirement the do 20 hours training to get a job per week.

    Left the decision of what requirements to make to state and local governments? If correct, then I would think a Libertarian would be happy.
    4141) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1286113)
    Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wikipaedia calls them a "movement".

    That is a fair assessment.
    4142) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1286112)
    Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember, there was a pretty solid economic expansion from 1993 to 2001.

    Yes, it was called Y2K. Or have you forgotten how many people were temp hired to do Y2K compliance? Once we got past Y2K all these positions become useless and that was the beginning of the recession. However no one ever wants to hear the truth.

    I would say there is some plausibility to this, but just how many jobs are we talking about? Besides, I thought you said the major problem was the Clinton era expansion of the Carter era FaAH Act. ?
    4143) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1286108)
    Posted 21 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only a fool who does not understand genetic engineering would dare to challenge the word of God!

    Johnney, I'm sorry, what the heck has HAPPENED to you in 5-6 years?!?
    Has it really transformed you SO MUCH that you now think the people who understand genetic engineering is anywhere near a majority of the world's population?!? Who painted you this very rose picture of the state of education across the world?!?
    4144) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285984)
    Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Tea Party" is a name, not an actual party, largely consisting of Libertarians and Republicans (both of which have many flavors, and a lot are not supporting the Tea (p)arty group), but the TP is definitely having an effect on policies and platforms of the Republicans.

    Real Libertarians told the tea party to go to hell when the repugnants took it over.

    Hence the words "many flavors".
    Yet, I wonder why, in the last few weeks, one of your responses to Es(?) was "Now you're starting to think like a Republican ..." rather than "Now you're starting to think like a Libertarian ..."?
    4145) Message boards : Politics : Anti Mohammed Movie? (Message 1285980)
    Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's an inman?
    4146) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285968)
    Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sequestration is brilliant!

    The only people who don't think so have a pet hate they want to cut out completely in favor of a pet project they want to double.

    As to the Democrat erasure of the Republican tax stimulus, well, if you want to discourage capitalism, I can't think of a better way to do it, than increase the tax on capital creation.

    So what does this boost on capital taxes do? The person who has cash to lend is much less likely to lend it. Interest rates get driven up. With higher interest rates comes more foreclosures. Why do you think the credit rating of the US will be cut?

    Gary, when I buy a stock from you that is not a capital investment. When a new factory is built, that is a capital investment. The stock purchase is merely the transfer of ownership of the existing capital. Taxing the speculative gains made on a stock sale at at least the same rate as earned income would tend to reduce speculative bubbles and make producing and it's rewards relatively more attractive. Our society used to focus on production rather than get rich speculation.


    +1
    4147) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285966)
    Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then we have another 5 years of dismantling.


    Exactly. People may not like how the money is spent, but take the Affordable Healthcare Act for example. Apparently, money is already being spent in preparation. If Romney is elected, and does as he originally said, and the ACA gets repealed, that's money down the drain, wasted by government, rather than working to spend that money on something similar but "improved" before it's too late.

    You have the same situation over the pond with the Democrats and Republicans, and now the emerging Tea party. Would a coalition work in the USA?


    "Tea Party" is a name, not an actual party, largely consisting of Libertarians and Republicans (both of which have many flavors, and a lot are not supporting the Tea (p)arty group), but the TP is definitely having an effect on policies and platforms of the Republicans.
    4148) Message boards : Politics : Anti Mohammed Movie? (Message 1285934)
    Posted 20 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:





    Love your lack of response.
    4149) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285686)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    America likes a split government for some reason.

    Praise be to Allah!

    Now if we could just fix the constitution to force it into a three party system and forever prevent any of the parties from ever getting over 40% control then we might be able to progress beyond schoolyard bully games.

    Imagine congressmen and congresswomen actually having debates and conversing on the merits of a bill instead of just digging in their heels and denying votes or filibustering. Imagine no more filibusters.

    Heaven.

    We also need a mandatory "none of the above" on the ballot. Finish behind "none of the above" and your name is never printed on the ballot again. Oh you can run but as a write in. Remove lots of slime that way.


    Gary & Skil holding an S@H John Lennon lovefest? Who would have thought we'd see the day?!?
    4150) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285676)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, but employment depends on the job market. How many highly qualified people (technicians, tradespeople, engineers etc.) are working at McDonalds or Walmart merely to survive because there are no jobs available in their chosen field ?

    Choose wisely.

    (I'll let that simmer for a while)


    Sorry, I already put it on the stove before you posted that.
    4151) Message boards : Politics : How will Mitt Romney Save America ? (Message 1285674)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not only do they think they're entitled to health care. They have the hide to think they're entitled to food as well.

    Was this bloke elected the Republican candidate by Democrat "Ring Ins" ? Surely out of 150 million potential candidates the GOP could have found someone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together.

    T.A.


    There's a difference between intelligence and wisdom.
    A number of candidates from both major parties over the course of my lifetime have been/are highly intelligent people.
    There's only been one that that has not been said about, that I can recall, in my lifetime,
    4152) Message boards : Politics : What would convert you to God? (Message 1285642)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Johnney, as uaual, Johnney, you read my post too literally, Johnney.
    (I'm 5 steps ahead of you. Johnney.)
    4153) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1285534)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unfortunately, so many people use the word 'theory' when they mean 'hypothesis' that the meaning has been obscured.

    Hence my (unstated) discomfort in my posting last night. Typing out "string theory", when it should be "The Stringy Hypothesis" was gnawing at me at some subconscious level.
    4154) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1285353)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY - New Normal: Majority Of Unemployed Attended College

    Out of 9 million unemployed in April, 4.7 million had gone to college


    Bloomberg - Low-Paid Grads On Tight Budgets Switching to Discounters

    The number of waiters and waitresses ages 18 to 30 with college degrees increased 81 percent from 2000 to 2010, to 159,645, according to U.S. Census Bureau figures. Educated bartenders, dishwashers and file clerks in that age group doubled. The number of janitors with college degrees rose 87 percent to 20,475, and the number of maids climbed 52 percent to 10,930, the data show.


    Hate to say it, but the opportunity for a post-secondary education is different from being capable of succeeding in its pursuit. How many easy majors are there? How many departments look to my department and expect us to be gatekeepers, failing those not ready for a college education? How many get through, anyway? Ignore those numbers a moment. What is a college degree really worth these days? Soon, a master's degree will be worth the same as well. It's already begun.
    4155) Message boards : Politics : Anti Mohammed Movie? (Message 1285344)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    4156) Message boards : Politics : What would convert you to God? (Message 1285315)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To everyone,
    Most of the people who have posted to this thread are aware of the research i have been carrying out down in the Middle East, and the "old book" i am decoding.

    These are some of my current results;

    Soon, in the next year, or next few years, you are going to hear scientific news on your television. All the news channels all over the world, in every country will carry the same news story. This scientific news story will be about a team of scientists and these scientists will have "cloned" an extinct creature that has been extinct for a long time!

    Now while this scientific news story about cloning the extinct creature will be fascinating in itself, it will not be the true news story. The real news story will be peoples reaction and the public discussion that will follow this cloning event!

    The public discussion that will follow the cloning of the extinct creature will be about human cloning. And the basis for the discussion will be simple;

    "If we can clone an extinct creature that has been dead for many years, then we can clone human beings that have died".

    The discussion will be very public and will be discussed on TV stations all over the world. The discussion will be about "raising the dead", or the "resurrection" that is described in the Bible. The discussion will continue for ......I think the Bible says 1355 days, or something close. About 3 and a half years.

    Then it will happen, very quickly. The first person to be cloned will be announced on the TV. It will most likely be a child that died recently in some car accident, or something like that. But once its announced, there will be many more people who have recently lost their loved ones will want their relative cloned, and brought back to life.

    Once it starts, it will be unstoppable. Once people realise just how easy it is to clone a dead person, there will be hoards of people going into church grave yards with excavators to dig up their deceased loved ones to get them cloned and returned to life.

    This will be the first block of the "resurrected" as described in the Biblical Book of Revelation.

    That will continue for many years, and as time goes on, the scientists will gain more experience and dare to clone older and older bodies that have been dug up. Within a few years, they will have perfected the cloning and will be resurrecting people who died thousands of years ago. The scientists will figure out that you don't actually need a perfectly preserved body to extract the DNA. You can literally clone anyone!

    After many years, the scientists will announce that there is a "flaw" in what they were doing, a flaw in the cloning process. But at this stage, many tens of thousands of people, or even millions, will have been resurrected.

    The flaw will be.......... I will discuss the "flaw" later. See how ye get on with that much first.

    John.


    “If people believe they’ll go to heaven no matter what they’ll lose control over themselves.”
    “Why would you say that?”
    “Because nothing anyone does ... will matter to them. The real worlds would turn into a game ..., people would kill, rape, destroy, they’d be forgiven and blessed and go to heaven anyway.”
    4157) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1285314)
    Posted 19 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID, so you agree that intelligent design is a hypothesis and should not be presented as a theory?


    LOL, no, it should be taught right along all the rest of the hypothesis being taught in school.

    ID, conjecture is not being taught, theory is taught and a hypothesis IS conjecture.



    So, string theory is NOT being taught in University? There is not even a honorable mention of M Theory in say any of the top ten University?

    Come now betreger...

    ...you really don't believe that do you?

    It is only taught in a few places, and all of these students would probably have a fit of giggles if you even mentioned I.D.

    MIT’s 8.251, based on Barton Zwiebach's String Theory for Undergraduates,
    Caltech has Physics 134
    Carnegie-Mellon has Physics 33-652
    and Stanford has Physics 153A and Physics 153B


    And it is hypothesis, NOT proven fact.

    Just like Intelligent Design is best explained by intelligent cause, not undirected process.


    I'd like to know why one thinks it is only being "taught" in a *few* places.
    Nonetheless, I suspect in lower level classes, it may receive brief mention. When brought up in upper lever classes, it would have to be in discussions of what could be done to further the theory or experiments that could be done to test it.
    I could ask some colleagues in the near future.
    4158) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1284535)
    Posted 16 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can tell there are some ruffled feathers in here.

    Where? Whose?
    Oh.
    OK, yes, I'll drink a beer with you in November to help you through it,
    4159) Message boards : Politics : I happen to belive in God....... (Message 1284534)
    Posted 16 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it really that hard to make a "scientific" approach when it comes to certain subjects for those people who insist or state that they are "believers"? (Read at the bottom).

    Is it all about churchgoing and worshipping?

    If so, if you are an agnostic or an atheist, you are not supposed to be any better than the Catholic Church which once had a scientist (Giordano Bruno) burnt to death in the fire.

    Perhaps a good reason to hate (or at least dislike) those "believers". Religion is not supposed to have done us anything good, never.

    Yes, definitely an approach to a specific subject should be carried out in a proper manner. By means of such an "deterministic" approach (please suggest an alternative wording), the desired results may be obtained in the same fields which are related to the particular subjects of interest (this can be put around).


    You make very little sense, and a lot of people are ignoring you.
    4160) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1284128)
    Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, I'm off to work for hours 51-63 today


    While doing this Work, do your muscles bulge, your brow sweat, get cut, scraped and bleed, dirt and grime get under your nails, on your clothes and face? When you plop down for a few minutes rest are you aching and groaning?

    No sweat, no muscles bulging, no filth, no blood.

    Then you are not Working.

    No one(me) who has Worked as described above and still do maintaining a home, do not consider what you do work.

    Get a grip. A Strong, sweaty, dirty, bloody grip.

    M'Kay.

    SunToMakeSweatBoilOffTheBrowFourthAngel


    Which SETIzens have you met? Smelled their sweat, or lack thereof? Ever walk in cow dung? I have, smart guy. Ever walk 4 hours to get home after work, through deep lake-effect snow, wearing out your shoes, your feet wet and bleeding? I have, smart guy. Ever step on a stray nail when tearing out old parts of a house in order to reconstruct? I have, Mr. Prof. Dull Hard Working Smart Guy.
    Your brain has been working too hard, trying to assume what the rest of us have and have not experienced. Quit slacking and get back to REAL Work. ;-)
    4161) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1284125)
    Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GODless/Atheist Libbers are HYPOCRITES and Do Not Deserve anyone's vote.

    Watched Ceremony at Andrews, and Your Libber Leaders Spake GOD and quoted Scripture over and over and over. PITIFUL. SICKENING.

    Puting GOD back in The Democrat's Platform gives them The Right to Spake GOD and Scripture? ROTFLMAO.

    You either Believe or Do Not Believe and Speak Accordingly, NO MATTER THE SITUATION, Grave or Not. To GOD this, and GOD That, and Scripture This and That is Why The DEM/Libs Got To Go.

    When Libbers need The Extra Vote to WIN, they Puke Out GOD and Scripture. PITIFUL. Peace Prize JOKE Pitiful.

    Vote Leaders who Believe and when they Speak, you know it is not A LIE.

    SunWillSpakeTheTruthAndBurnEveryoneFourthAngel


    As you are an atheist, you're being hypocritical as you point out what you PERCEIVE as hypocrisy.
    4162) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1283892)
    Posted 15 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, if I'm delusional to believe that FREEDOM WORKS, then I guess I need to set up an appointment with my doctor to see about maybe totally changing my medication. Oh wait... I'm not on any medication. Maybe that's my problem?

    Maybe a couple of shots of Bell's will help clear things up for me. If not, it'll only make me feel more love for all you seti@home scientists.

    :)

    Guy the Great!


    Barry, his current lack of work (so well-defined by Dull, who chose to misconstrue words about "getting hands dirty" a few weeks back) is what's getting to him.
    4163) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1283418)
    Posted 14 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They're all on the table. Each and every one of them would solve the problems discussed.

    For example, a massive overhall of the education system and the single mother...

    And jobs program for those incarcerated...

    ... all brought up in just the last couple of posts. If I went back farther, I'd find more.

    Love ya!

    Guy the Great!

    P.S.

    Thank you Blurf. I'd like an answer too.


    Slacker = one who posts too much to S@H. Get back to work! ;)
    4164) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1283027)
    Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shame, so much time being wasted, slacking, by posting to S@H, when the bipartisan solution was suggested just a few posts back. With all Guys' sincere lub lub lub for ya, SLACK ON, SETI Slackers! :)
    4165) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1282912)
    Posted 12 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why haven't A10s Chopped Up into hamburger, every living being surrounding for blocks?

    Pres was born into islam, could there be a connection? Only birthers know the truth. ;)


    Some damn fool idiot and a hundred of his idiot buddies make an intentionally inflammatory movie and post it to the net and people get killed. Obviously the rest of the world hasn't learned to tolerate. I thought tolerance was a requirement to believe in Allah? Must be wrong.



    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68800&postid=1270140
    4166) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1282496)
    Posted 11 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's a slacker/leech? Google-video or youtube "free obama money." You'll find several specific examples there.

    Why are most of those videos uploaded by a youtube user with the handle "greatguyintx"?


    Not me.

    OK, here's a definition of "slacker/leech" to work with. How about a person who refuses to be a productive member of society? How about a person who refuses to earn what he/she consumes? How about a person who has a sense of entitlement to other people's money with out doing anything to earn it? How about a person who refuses to recognize their field of expertise has an excess of other people who have their same field of expertise and refuses to find a field where there is a shortage of laborers and do what it takes to become an expert in a new field? How about a person who blames their ancestry on their current predicament? How about a person who feels their efforts are worth more than what someone else is willing to pay and therefore refuses to do anything and would rather continue collecting unemployment?

    Is that enough of a definition? No? Then I don't know what your looking for.

    Try giving me a definition of someone who is NOT a slacker/leech and then maybe we can work from there.

    I truly care for all producers/slackers/leeches, sincerely,

    Guy the Great!



    Here's a bipartisan definition: the more you can post to S@H forums, the more you are slacking.
    How's that?
    Everybody happy?
    4167) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1282227)
    Posted 10 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's a slacker/leech? Google-video or youtube "free obama money." You'll find several specific examples there.

    Why are most of those videos uploaded by a youtube user with the handle "greatguyintx"?
    4168) Message boards : Politics : America - The Land of the Free (Message 1282065)
    Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They think they are free.
    Does that count?


    I charge for my services. ;)

    4169) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1281960)
    Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just as much a chuckle about Gingrich and the guy that was supposed to succeed him, eh?
    4170) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1281763)
    Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-clinton-did-elevate-democratic-convention-215344170--election.html
    4171) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1281745)
    Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    submit to a nameless, faceless government run by people who you give total control of your life over

    Already there, and been there for a long long long time.

    No Matter Who Is Prez. No matter who is in Congress. No matter what party.

    WillItMatterToTheSun?NoFourthAngel


    You're finally starting to get it!
    4172) Message boards : Politics : I happen to belive in God....... (Message 1281738)
    Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Self edited.

    +1? :)
    How are ya, Chris?!
    4173) Message boards : Politics : I happen to belive in God....... (Message 1281219)
    Posted 7 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe Musicplayer is the latest reincarnation of Fjernhode.


    Perhaps now morphed into bluestar? Stylistic similarities...


    People spent more than 2 seconds reading any of MPs posts?
    4174) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1281218)
    Posted 7 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is Putin stockpiling gold?

    Actually an interesting read.
    4175) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1280826)
    Posted 7 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

    John.


    I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?

    Bobby,
    Its difficult to say exactly because its proving difficult to read some of the pages of the old book. Many of the pages are damaged beyond repair and i can't read them. Many more pages are only partly readable. Even with the pages of the book that are in good condition, its still difficult to read the information on the pages. So its going to take time!

    My current estimate would be "years" rather than any lesser time period. When i first found the old book, i thought i could quickly decipher some of the pages. But it has turned out to be much more difficult than i originally thought. The book is very old and very damaged. It will be a few years before i have compiled enough to publish.

    John.


    I'm sorry, but the Atlanteans have that book, and they're safe and sound under Cadiz (though suffering a bit from hypobaria).
    4176) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280700)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where are these new plants?
    Where's the equipment?
    Where are the houses?
    Where are the new home owners?
    WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!?


    As Long As The OBlabby Gravy Train is still running, they wait for The Moola to be Handed Out.

    Once Election Night sees OBlabby Inc. defeated, they will stop being Dogs Looking For Hand-Outs and become Wolves On The Prowl.

    And they will start "Building That" will this Large Cache Of Dough everyone says they have.

    Once R & R is Leading The Way, ALL WILL KNOW it is Time To Build It with Your Own Minds, Hands, and Money, 'cause The Gravy Train Is Derailed. Daddy Government will Part The Sea and The Chariots Of Industry will be Kicking Up The Dust to The New America. YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    Capiche? Good.

    ChariotsOfFireToBelchForthFourthAngel


    Wayt a minnit. So youse be sayin dey duez gots da mooolah money, but dey be sittin on it fo dese fo yearz cuz dey be wannin' Barry be a one term precedent? But dat dey won be sittin on it if one deir own be da winner? Oooh, yessir, Lawdy, I vote fo yo man, cuz I believe his promises dat he will release da flood gates affa Novemmer, provided we let him win. Darn I haffa do dis, cuz sittin on da moolah money be reprehessibul, but I so want him be movin us forward affa Novemmer! VOTE ROMNEY!
    4177) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280660)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right on, Betreger.
    So, folks, let's consume those houses that were built 2002-2006, with very few people filling them.
    Consume, consume, consume! Make Dull, GWB and Mitt happy! :)
    4178) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280621)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R & R for America.

    Rest & Relaxation? Great economic recovery plan there, brouddy.
    4179) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280620)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The "money" is not sitting in an account. It went to purchase a stock, bond or commodity future. The issuer of these instruments receive capital which it invests in plant, people and equipment. If cash sits in a bank --it isn't really there; it has been lent to someone to buy a house --an action that also creates capital.


    Where are these new plants?
    Where's the equipment?
    Where are the houses?
    Where are the new home owners?
    WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!?
    4180) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280499)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is about the forth coming election in a small, insignificant country somewhere on the wrong side of the Atlantic., NOT the how/who/where various people from other insignificant countries have hidden their money.
    Get back on topic or the topic will be heading into the invisibility of the freezer.


    In the beginning, this that and the other thing was created, and this made a lot of people angry, because they didn't want this, or that, or the other thing, or some combination of all three, or wanted someone else entirely.
    Some happening really zarkingfarkworthy dude (or dudette) came up with a solution to make everyone happy, which involved little green slips of paper and moving them around, but in general the little green slips of paper were feeling just fine, while the people moving them around found little joy in the transactions.
    Briefly, the powers-that-be decided to demote Pluto to a dwarf planet as a way to wag the dog and divert people's attention. (Surprisingly, this trivial thing has met with large success!)
    Meanwhile, back on Earth, people are scratching their heads over the above comment (and threat) for discussing one of the campaign issues IN THE SAME COUNTRY in question (whether it should be a campaign issue or not, IT IS one), with the poster acting as if people have dragged things off topic (as if they're talking about people from some other country) when in fact they have NOT.
    Seriously: just which country, which election and which person do you think they're talking about?!?
    Mark asked, what shall we do about Obama. When people respond with comments about someone's money (a US citizen's money) hidden in accounts in other countries, we know who they are talking about, and we know they have strong doubts about the main alternative against Obama that is being provided.
    That sure as heck IS on topic.
    Now, if you believe the attacks against Romney are unfair, not being presented in full context,whatever, you can discuss that. Explain to Mark and others why you think Romney is an acceptable choice ... IF you believe that. Because, again, Mark asked what do about Obama.
    4181) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280482)
    Posted 6 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear SETI, I have found The Aliens and they are here on this forum. You Gots to be from Another World to Believe in Take Take Take.

    99% of the people you are talking to are giving.
    Guess when you hitched across the good ol US in the 70s, you didn't walk a mile in anybody's shoes but your own.
    Guess you missed out on the jog with Forrest, eh?
    4182) Message boards : Politics : Free speech (Message 1280447)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To illustrate: How many people have called our sitting President illegitimate - the birther controversy?

    Can you imagine what would happen to a person saying that about the Queen?

    In the USA I can burn the Stars and Stripes in front of the White House.

    Can you imagine what would happen if I burned the Union Jack in front of Windsor Castle?


    Interesting.
    I hear an American was arrested in 1984 for burning a US flag on American soil.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5wTpFIW300
    While I go to teach the evening class, perhaps someone else can look to find if there's more to the story?
    4183) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1280446)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knowledge, partial or full, of something does not necessarily imply being part of that thing. I am not, nor ever was, Mormon.
    In this case, the knowledge comes from something near and dear to your ancient aliens theory: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Kobol.

    Sarge,
    Its not my theory.

    John.


    Johnney,
    it is.

    Is not.

    John.


    Is so, Mr. Johnney Daniken.
    4184) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1280445)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4th angle makes a great deal over those job creators.
    Where are the jobs dude?

    The pampered wealthy elites have increased their share of the pie.
    The corporate sector is sitting on mountains of cash.
    Where are the jobs?

    Society bought the dribble down theory and allowed the rightists to lower taxes on the corporatists and the wealthy. They promised that a rising tide raises all boats.

    Well, the tide is in.
    The biggest yachts are all afloat but those working people sitting in their canoes are adrift and taking on water.

    North America's best years were when the working class had stability and a voice in the country's direction.
    Now, it's money that does the talking.


    Probably your best post. Ever.
    4185) Message boards : Politics : Gawd, I do so love Clint Eastwood..... (Message 1280441)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, seeing his impromptu performance, not via the silver screen but in person, he came across an an old man close to the touch of dementia, and possibly best kept away from the public now.


    Critiquing his speech due to delivery and appearance is disgraceful.

    I listened to every word. Caught every nuance and inflection. Excellent timing and the delivery added Punch and Emphasis.

    To be totally oblivious to his Great Performance, I would think a person to be blind and deaf, or if not, biased and prejudiced beyond reason.

    TheSunWillPerformMasterfullySoonForYourNotPleasureFourthAngel


    You are the least biased posting here, DullZeroethObtuseAngle. ;)
    4186) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1280439)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regardless of gold, people "should" be able to find a way to make these trades equitably.


    We have found a way. Form precious metal into thin little circles so it's easy to count and carry around in your pocket.


    OK, so you're not one of the people worried whether the US' gold is all gone or not, like I've seen a few people here post, and is covered in a few conspiracy theory type TV shows.
    4187) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1280286)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, yes, gold has value because people place value on it. It is pretty, has unique characteristics, it is pleasant to the eye, and it is limited in supply. Yes, it is a choice to tie its worth to other things. It also happens to be a very convenient thing to use to trade for other things.


    Since a great many people wish to trade a great many things, something in short supply does not seem to be a very convenient thing to use in the trading.

    How do I buy something from you? Suppose you have something that took you (arbitrarily) 5 minutes of labour (English spelling) to produce when the only thing I have to trade for that took me (arbitrarily) 8 hours of labor (US Spelling) to produce?


    Regardless of gold, people "should" be able to find a way to make these trades equitably.
    4188) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1280128)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Knowledge, partial or full, of something does not necessarily imply being part of that thing. I am not, nor ever was, Mormon.
    In this case, the knowledge comes from something near and dear to your ancient aliens theory: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Kobol.

    Sarge,
    Its not my theory.

    John.


    Johnney,
    it is.
    4189) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1280123)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    But I do not think you will find the answer to my main question at that site. (If I am wrong, please tell me, I'll go read.it.) WHY is gold assigned the worth it is assigned. beyond its intrinsic worthwhile properties?


    Id like to know that answer also. Is it bankers who put the value on it?

    In many so called primitive cultures they dont use any money. They barter what they raise or grow or create. I would also guess that even now those cultures are far and few between.[/quote]

    Thanks, James. But apparently more than just bankers place a high value on it.
    4190) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1280120)
    Posted 5 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, just what did God do before creating the universe?

    Why only one creation? Is God somehow bound that he can only do one creation event? What limits him?


    Gary,
    There are many planets with people living on them, just like us.

    John.


    Kolob? ;)

    Sarge,
    Interesting, i never heard of it. You must be a Mormon. I had to Google to find the meaning of the word;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob

    John.


    Knowledge, partial or full, of something does not necessarily imply being part of that thing. I am not, nor ever was, Mormon.
    In this case, the knowledge comes from something near and dear to your ancient aliens theory: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Kobol.
    4191) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1279895)
    Posted 4 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the reception goes in and out with my Black and White TV, seems The Message Becomes Clearer. The tin foil on my Rabbit Ears and constant fiddling with adjustmet is Decoding the Tin Foil Hat Wearing Zombie Spin. It's like Last Century Low Tech is Decrypting the 21st Century, Billion Dollar paid for Communist/Fascist/RiechStagish Propaganda(ironically a Last Century technique being used by DEM/Libs-so why the Last Century Barbs OBlabby?). I double-checked with my couple crystalled AM radio from the 60s and it confirmed my B&W TV.

    So why is Future Nick TV Star OBlahBlahBlah demonizing The Past? Is it because Pitiful's Past(last four years-well, whole life) a Total Fail? Peace Prize Potus thinks the 21st Century Mind cannot comprehend Failure. Failure is the same now, as it Ever Was. There is No Forward into The Future without The Past. And Drone Hit Man's Past is the Future 2012 Election Fail.

    Keep wearing The Tin Foil OBlabby and your Zombies will view on their 21st Century huge LCD/LED/Plasma TVs, their small Smart Phone and tablet devices your Election Night 2012 LOSS to the Future President and Vice President of The United States, the team of R & R.

    WrapTheEarthInTinFoilFourthAngel


    Not learning from the past and using that to move forward?

    BTW, I do not own a tablet, and my phone cost about $15 and I pay for minutes, which I can stretch out quite a while. It's no "smart" phone.
    If you really are what you've claimed, someone like me must drive you crazy. You rail against "zombies" consuming, but it's what you profit from via your trades, I'd bet.
    I think I understand now why hard working intelligent people call themselves white trash, when at worst, they listen to country music. It's because to YOU, as they limit their consumption, serve YOU little, and so they are trash.
    4192) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1279894)
    Posted 4 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, just what did God do before creating the universe?

    Why only one creation? Is God somehow bound that he can only do one creation event? What limits him?


    Gary,
    There are many planets with people living on them, just like us.

    John.


    Kolob? ;)
    4193) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1279802)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Allen, from your posts it isn't that you are a conservative -- or rather if you think of yourself as a conservative, you've essentially maligned conservatism as much as the TeaPublicans have mangled the Republican party.

    There is room for intelligent discussion of differences -- but not from your vantage point.

    As of yet I have seen no discussion, only statements.



    The time for discussion is over. It's time for the liberals to see how vile Obama is.

    AllenIN. OK I get it, you really dislike like Obama. Now if you could enumerate what "vile" acts you anticipate I would be more informed.


    Research, research, research.

    Something you progressives tend to forget, avoid or don't care about.
    Check his upbringing and school records. Very telling.


    AllenIN, thank you for your deep and thoughtful response. You enlighten.


    Apparently, it is a vile act to be born, brought up by parents (a few different dads?) and get an education.
    BTW, AlienIN, try checking out MY school records. Yeah, then, do you research on a little thing called FERPA.
    4194) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1279798)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is the absolute truth at least in Seti ground:

    1 billion years ago bacterias came alive
    170 million years ago dinosaurs ruled
    10 000 years ago humans figured out Sun god thing
    5 000 years ago religious cults invented
    1 000 years ago 3 major cults have gone extreme that these 3 cults have caused most horrible crimes in the last 1000 years.
    +150 years into future no religion will bother the human civilization.

    For example Buddhism is kind of new religion in central asia just over 3 centuries old in this region. But in 8th century at its birth place of northern India that the birth place nation has fallen into big wars and social instabilities so the native people kicked out Buddhism after practicing it for 1000 years. For tibetans it is another weird story too that maybe over 1000 years of practice they have no right in their land and their land turned into nuclear waste dumping ground. Which proves the oldest religious cult is not that useful stuff like all other religions.


    Buddhism began around 600 BC, 1400 years earlier than what you've claimed.
    4195) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1279797)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, so the US and most or all other countries detached from the gold standard in the 70s. Does it matter? Does this really mean they can no longer tell how much your work, or my work, or a loaf of bread is worth, relative to each other?

    I don't know enough to answer that one! Gold Standard


    But I do not think you will find the answer to my main question at that site. (If I am wrong, please tell me, I'll go read.it.) WHY is gold assigned the worth it is assigned. beyond its intrinsic worthwhile properties?
    4196) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1279501)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I suspect the claims of dictator come from the executive orders issued by Obama.
    Any of the more impartial people care to look at the following? I will honestly state in advance of cut and paste I have not read these at the moment:

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/executive_orders.php
    4197) Message boards : Politics : What did God do before creation? (Message 1279490)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69213&postid=1279321
    4198) Message boards : Politics : I happen to belive in God....... (Message 1279469)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm getting rather tired of these Religion threads.

    All of them are the same people, saying the same things to each other, over and over like a broken record and it's obvious that neither side will convince the other to change their minds.

    I acknowledge that it is a very personal subject but from the number of threads on this subject over the last 12 months everybody knows where everyone else stands on the matter, so there is no need to keep rehashing the same old stuff over and over again. At least in the political threads we have Fourth Angel and Sirius B to provide some interesting and humourous asides.

    Believe or disbelieve as is your wont, I just don't care.

    T.A.


    An attempt to organize it one thread, "The Great Debate", in the spirit of Qui-Gon's old "Religious Thread #x" was ... . Well, you get the picture. Maybe.
    4199) Message boards : Politics : So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama? (Message 1279467)
    Posted 3 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe both sides are wagging the dog, for a very long time now.
    4200) Message boards : Politics : Gawd, I do so love Clint Eastwood..... (Message 1278619)
    Posted 1 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All.

    4201) Message boards : Politics : "So how poor were you?" (Message 1278579)
    Posted 1 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Over heard at the GOP convention.........

    We were so poor when we were young: I starved to death at the age of two.


    Impossible, not for the obvious reason, but because they would not remember it.
    Case in point, Marco Rubio is 3 years younger than me, but cannot remember US politics until 1980.
    I remember the gas lines. I remember Nixon resigning. I remember hostages held in Iran something like 444 days. I remember stressful times, starting maybe as early as 3 years old, no later than 6.
    4202) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1278578)
    Posted 1 Sep 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The conspiracy theory that there is no gold left has been around for many years now. It is being continued by the anarchists that want to bring down society as we know it. And yes we have them here at Seti, even we are not immune!


    The question is, "should it matter?"
    Gold is pretty. It is malleable. It has low reactivity. It is a conductor.
    For these reasons, it has worth.
    Beyond that, it was by the choice of humanity to tie its worth to the worth of other things.
    Some say that economies that have relied on paper money always fail. Always.
    Is this true?
    If so, why?
    Part of it, they claim, is due to manipulation by governments.
    Again, is this really why?
    As it is, how many of us are really carrying paper money around all that often, as opposed to using a debit card, which draws directly from our checking accounts? (With some fees in certain cases.)
    OK, so the US and most or all other countries detached from the gold standard in the 70s. Does it matter? Does this really mean they can no longer tell how much your work, or my work, or a loaf of bread is worth, relative to each other?
    (Then again, maybe they cannot really tell, when athletes make so much, supposedly because entertainment is worth so much to so many people, 10 to 100 times as much as education, supposedly.)
    4203) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1277765)
    Posted 30 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no gold in Fort Knox.

    What was there is now under the twin towers in New York.

    Id still rather ride a Unicorn...coward.


    Awww. You'd still be OFF TOPIC, you *&*&^&%&^%&@(*&(*&!!!
    4204) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1277390)
    Posted 30 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good deal, we get to have an overt British action attempting to influence our domestic and international policies. LOL, I thought that was figured out somewhere around 1776 and 1812.

    If only. And I wonder who gets to contributed to the SiperPACs?
    4205) Message boards : Politics : Gold (Message 1277337)
    Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is your thread to:
    talk about ancient aliens mining Earth for gold and enslaving humans to do so;
    talk about Brad Meltzer and the conspiracy theory that Fort Knox is empty (at least of gold);
    talk about the intrinsic values of gold (IIRC, it's a great conductor?);
    talk about why other things of worth should or should not be tied to gold.
    Have fun!
    4206) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1277313)
    Posted 29 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How did a post about a shooting in New York end up where it is currently? Gun control I can *kinda* see, since everyone was freaking out over why another shooting took place and some possible remedies for the problem...but US debt and selling our children? For crying out loud, people...stay on the topic of a thread or help yourselves to starting a new one.


    +1. (Note the portion I did not quote. You usually need to red X something you find off topic, particularly if it is your thread.)
    4207) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1276560)
    Posted 28 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone pointed out that you can't do a mass killing with a knife ...
    Seventeen villagers beheaded in southern Afghanistan

    Link please, for context?
    Suppose they were first approached at gun point, herded together, tied up? Then they have all the time they want to carry out the beheadings.

    As usual first news reports aren't quite right. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/08/201282772631941208.html I assume you do keep up on the news. In any case http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/08/2012827141644149141.html seems to have the best story.


    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/08/28/Beheaded-bodies-of-17-Afghans-found/UPI-59651346132854/

    Provincial government spokesman Daoud Ahmadi said all of the victims were beheaded, but it was not clear whether they had been shot first, the Post reported.


    The Times reported the U.S. Embassy in Kabul said the 17 victims had been shot and beheaded in a "shameful act".

    4208) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1276469)
    Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone pointed out that you can't do a mass killing with a knife ...
    Seventeen villagers beheaded in southern Afghanistan

    Link please, for context?
    Suppose they were first approached at gun point, herded together, tied up? Then they have all the time they want to carry out the beheadings.

    As usual first news reports aren't quite right. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/08/201282772631941208.html I assume you do keep up on the news. In any case http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/08/2012827141644149141.html seems to have the best story.


    I posted just before I headed to work, IIRC. I had switched between two different stations, neither mentioned this that I caught on, or it was very brief. I also will be busy the next two hours. I will try to remember to read your links when I get home.

    But, in the meantime, how was Nick Berg originally kidnapped? Was it at gunpoint? He was held for some time before the beheading took place. Right?
    4209) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1276255)
    Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone pointed out that you can't do a mass killing with a knife ...
    Seventeen villagers beheaded in southern Afghanistan

    Link please, for context?
    Suppose they were first approached at gun point, herded together, tied up? Then they have all the time they want to carry out the beheadings.
    4210) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1276250)
    Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not show the items responsible for the most deaths?

    Or doesn't the truth help?


    http://chronicle.com/article/Does-Religion-Really-Poison/133457/?cid=cr&utm_source=cr&utm_medium=en

    That includes laying the blame for much of human conflict at the feet of the faithful. In a recent Science article, Atran and Jeremy Ginges, an associate professor of psychology at the New School, cite evidence suggesting that "only a small minority of recorded wars" have been mainly motivated by religious disputes (though making distinctions between religious and political causes is notoriously knotty). They complain in the article that the New Atheists are quick to remind everyone how fundamentalism fuels Al Qaeda but neglect to mention the role of churches in the civil-rights movement. The New Atheists are, according to Atran and Ginges, cherry-picking the horrors. "Science produced a nuclear bomb. Therefore we should throw away science," says Atran, to illustrate the baby-bathwater logic. "Sometimes it can be really noxious, and other times it can be quite helpful."
    4211) Message boards : Politics : Another American shooting (Message 1276217)
    Posted 27 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems as no one wants to consider the possibility of the "honest citizen" that already owns "snapping" at some later point.
    4212) Message boards : Politics : Whats in a word? (Message 1275056)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just like looking for mushrooms in the woods I guarantee you that you will not ever find a one if you are not looking for them. Same goes for Design, gotta look. When you eliminate the possibility you're sure as hell not looking.


    A very naive assertion - when I was doing a lot of running (long distance cross country, often through wooded areas) I used to find plenty of fungi with my feet, hands, body, face - particularly when I tripped on a part buried root - and I certainly wasn't looking for them.


    Good point!
    4213) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1275048)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess you would as most of the internet is packed with liberal lamebrains that don't even know how to tie their shoes yet. Stop believing the morons at CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CNN and you might learn something about the real world.


    Why do you put me in the liberal category when you don't know all of my views? I can assure you I do not put myself there. Regardless, what does your attack on liberalism have to do with the fact that President Obama is a natural born American citizen?


    I didn't mean to imply. Most people that deny the possibility of Obama not being eligible to be president are liberal.


    You're on a message board for a science project, so where's your scientific data to back up this assertion?
    4214) Message boards : Politics : The "New" ("Militant") Atheism (Message 1275047)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fair enough, the experiment wasn't flawed, the conclusion (that religious belief leads to greater fairness) may be.


    Perhaps I need to read it again, or the primary sources, but I don't think it was claimed they have definitively shown that, either. I take the point to be that at least they are studying it, while "The Four Horsemen", when saying such is not the case, are advocating an idea without scientifically studying it. That the fact that they are scientists and also are advocates are conflated in the eyes of others to mean, as scientists, they know better than us on those issues.

    Still, a growing body of research suggests that religion or religious ideas, in certain circumstances, in some people, can elicit the kind of behavior that is generally good for society: fairness, generosity, honesty. At the very least, when you read the literature, it becomes difficult to confidently assert that religion, despite the undeniable evil it has sometimes inspired, is entirely toxic.

    Appears to be a straw man. I'm not aware that any of the advocates of "The New Atheism" have stated "religion is entirely toxic", that type of absolutism is generally not part of their case.


    All we need to do to see it is not a straw man is to look at some posts in Qui-Gon's old threads from 5-6 years ago, plus some scattered threads in the past 1-2 years.
    It is indeed statements (unfounded by science) such as "nothing about religion is good, it has caused many bad things, so it is entirely bad, we'd be better off without it and we will eventually evolve beyond it" that have led me to not label myself as atheist, and maintain the label agnostic.


    I suspects it's a truism to state that whenever one accepts a label one runs the risk of joining others that one does not wholeheartedly agree with. Nevertheless, provided one is reasonably sure that the label is appropriate, it should not matter. It does not matter to me that some other atheist may not be able to see the beauty of the Sistene Chapel, my understanding of the label does not prohibit me from doing so.

    Apologies, the reference to "the advocates of the New Atheism" was intended as shorthand for the Four Horsemen (Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens), which I suspect are more likely the targets of the article than posters to these fora.[/quote]

    From the Wiki you linked,
    New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of 21st-century atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises.


    Of course, the comment was meant as a response to "The Four Horsemen", but we've seen it echoed here. Where do you suppose such intolerant comments are coming from?

    Again, I suggest it is possible that just because science has shown we need not believe some of the religious explanations provided to us (how the universe came to be, etc. ...), we now see "The Four Horsemen" and their comments being echoed by others, when these others may not realize that while they are scientists, when it comes to the extreme case they make for atheism, they may just be advocates. Wilson's overall idea, to investigate scientifically what religion may or may not do for us is precisely what a scientist should be doing.
    (I mean, who wants the actor Ted Danson to be the one to tell us about global warming?)
    4215) Message boards : Politics : The "New" ("Militant") Atheism (Message 1274891)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The "dictator game" experiment in "Does Religion Really Poison Everything?" appears flawed, in that it appears to compare two groups, one that has no prompting and another that is given "spiritual" prompting, where's the third group, given emotive (though spiritually neutral) prompting?


    That does not necessarily make it flawed: that would be a call for further research, as if often found at the end of reports or in critiques.

    Still, a growing body of research suggests that religion or religious ideas, in certain circumstances, in some people, can elicit the kind of behavior that is generally good for society: fairness, generosity, honesty. At the very least, when you read the literature, it becomes difficult to confidently assert that religion, despite the undeniable evil it has sometimes inspired, is entirely toxic.

    Appears to be a straw man. I'm not aware that any of the advocates of "The New Atheism" have stated "religion is entirely toxic", that type of absolutism is generally not part of their case.


    All we need to do to see it is not a straw man is to look at some posts in Qui-Gon's old threads from 5-6 years ago, plus some scattered threads in the past 1-2 years.
    It is indeed statements (unfounded by science) such as "nothing about religion is good, it has caused many bad things, so it is entirely bad, we'd be better off without it and we will eventually evolve beyond it" that have led me to not label myself as atheist, and maintain the label agnostic.
    4216) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1274657)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have not left the Republican Party, but it sure as heck seems to have left me.


    So We Can Count On You and Your Zombie Followers to Vote For Pitiful? Good.

    OBlabby will need All The Defection Votes It Can Get.

    TheHeatIsOnFourthAngel


    Hello, Glenn "Fry". :)
    4217) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1274655)
    Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AllenIN, were you a member of The John Birch Society?


    No, but I am a member of the "I've got a brain society".


    I see you've posted a lot today. Must be one of those 1%ers that works 60 hoours a week and doesn't have much time for anything else.

    Errr, wait ... .
    4218) Message boards : Politics : Whats in a word? (Message 1274479)
    Posted 23 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whats in a word?


    Letters.
    Syllables.
    Ideas.

    What more proof do you need?
    Please, do try to keep up.
    4219) Message boards : Politics : The "New" ("Militant") Atheism (Message 1274132)
    Posted 22 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the far left:

    http://chronicle.com/article/Does-Religion-Really-Poison/133457/?cid=cr&utm_source=cr&utm_medium=en

    http://chronicle.com/article/The-New-Atheists-Narrow/126027/?cid=cr&utm_source=cr&utm_medium=en
    4220) Message boards : Politics : Tax returns? (Message 1273167)
    Posted 20 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CookingWithGasFourthAngel


    Hmmm, didn't expect you to have such strong connections to Bobby.
    4221) Message boards : Politics : Tax returns? (Message 1273115)
    Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Irony much?
    4222) Message boards : Politics : Tax returns? (Message 1272774)
    Posted 19 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68081&postid=1271309
    The parties not only kick each other when they are down, but they also pick each other back up, because each needs its opponent in order to continue the farcical show of difference in order to contain real opposition within their bifurcated fraudulence. The object is to contain all differences within the party system in order to keep real opposition from mounting from without.


    Yet engages in furthering the farce?
    4223) Message boards : Politics : Tax returns? (Message 1272403)
    Posted 18 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate.pdf

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/trump-proud-honored-obama-released-birth-certificate/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-fringe-conservatives-are-completly-obsessed-with-obamas-college-grades-2012-8

    http://www.louisianaweekly.com/romney-show-us-your-papers/

    http://www.louisianaweekly.com/romney-show-us-your-papers/
    4224) Message boards : Politics : Tax returns? (Message 1272241)
    Posted 17 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.ilga.gov/PreviousGA.asp
    4225) Message boards : Politics : The 5 best sentences you’ll ever read... (Message 1271826)
    Posted 17 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, you amaze me.

    What? You didn't figure out "the boss", yet, from a few days ago?
    4226) Message boards : Politics : PitifulPeacePrizin' POtus aka PrisonerExchanging You Can Believe In, 'is' Tee'd Up & Ready tO Act. HOle in One fO da Vrold. (Message 1271315)
    Posted 13 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Paid for by Billionaires For Romney


    Oh Yeah.

    Billions For The Billionaires.

    The Way It Is. The Way It Will Stay. Sweet.

    LightingCigarsWithHundredDollarBillsFourthAngel




    ?

    :=)
    4227) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1271244)
    Posted 13 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh no!
    Paul Ryan is to be the new VP pic to help Romney win the election once and for all.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Camptowm race track five miles long, Doo Dar Doo Dar.....
    Oh the Doo Da day.

    Your country has just made insomnia worth every minute of it for me. Say would any one down there in the lower 48 like to buy a bridge from me, or perhaps some snow, I have a very large stock of wet snow for a great price, don’t put this off, these sorts of deals tend to go very quickly.

    The bridge to nowehre was pointed somewhere before somewhere was redefined as nowhere.
    4228) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1271241)
    Posted 13 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-shooter-apprehended-near-texas-m-campus-183653265.html

    PostedThisBeforeDullButHeCanSensationalizeItIfHeWantsByTheBarbieque.
    4229) Message boards : Politics : Was the past more sensible than the present? (Message 1270500)
    Posted 11 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well if you want to leave the world, this could help you....as you're serving no useful purpose on the planet......asides from knocking down your so called friends for the past year or so.....

    Good Idea

    Want some help?


    I love the comedy team Chris & Sirius have put together. Their good-natured ribbing of each other, along with at least some easily shot down claims ... this is hilarious stuff! :)
    4230) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1270140)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, 2 points, one severe criminal and civil penalties should be assessed and two the law concerning the fiduciary duty to the share holders needs to be changed. Currently short term gain takes precedence over national precedence, humane behavior, and even long term profitability. The mantra is get as much as you can right now and F--- tomorrow.

    Finally someone else gets it. You have put your finger on the problem and it does need to change. We the people can't continue to allow corporations an unlimited grant of sovereignty, we must limit it. Sure a bunch of them will flee the USA but I suspect that the socialist powers in Europe won't allow that crap either and they will come back in a decade at most.

    Agreed

    Gary, will you now say 2 people get it, based on Ex's post?
    Gary, I think a lot of us get what you're saying, even if you wrap it in sarcasm (making it sound like the results of fiduciary duty are ok, when in fact you mean the opposite).
    Question is, what to do about it? What can we, the people, do about it, particularly when some have decried the 17th Amendment? (I believe you have been one of these people, correct?)
    4231) Message boards : Politics : Could I do this? (Message 1270138)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    you do know Randy Travis was found drunk and naked on the side of the road after crashing his Trans AM

    I don't follow the lives of country music stars much since the mid-80s. But, boy, we sure are discussing politics, aren't we, just as Mark intended when he started this thread, right?
    4232) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1270135)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Correct me if Im wrong but Prez Barry said we have 57 states? LOL!

    Goode


    Old news, lol.
    4233) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1270129)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Papa John's: 'Obamacare' will raise pizza prices

    That's nasty Pizza. Ate it once and that was enough.

    I prefer my italian guy down the road. He's from Brooklyn. Ohhh Fugitaboutit


    I had no idea Papa John's was a subsidiary of Papa Cain's!?
    Now let's all get some Chick-fil-A, even if no such restaurant exists in your area.
    BAKE SALE FOR ROMNEY, woo hoo!
    4234) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1270121)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would think that as a Professor you would appreciate clarity through information (i.e. "wordy") than to simply correct someone without an explanation. I hope you don't teach like you post.


    This is not a teaching situation.
    Provide the info first.
    Then, if needed, follow up.
    4235) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1270093)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the ver 7 and above (or what ever ver 7 tried many times, this LT is 100% OK) on yours dl page does not even start at all on this LapTop. So I am tied to version 6.smth. I have tried everything and you can bet your moneys

    ...

    So question:
    Is there anyone who can take those improvements to working 6 ver or could someone who is coding now those 7 versions take a second look onto their codes.

    This is annoying situation the Boinc-manager shouts everyday to update to the never version, or did it you say: "should update!"


    You should really try the Questions and Answers forum for all trouble-shooting related questions. I am willing to bet my money against yours that you have not tried everything, and that there is no way this is due to a code bug in BOINC v7, but likely an issue specific to your computer's configuration.

    Sorry man, but did you mean Opengl, not Opencl?


    In this very thread I already addressed that question in message 1269250:

    No, OpenGL is a graphics library or API designed to be cross-platform to aid in graphics-related apps (CAD, virtual reality, games, screen savers).

    OpenCL, the correct term, is an API that is designed to assist or allow running standard applications on the GPU via a common programming language regardless of the hardware underneath (i.e. an OpenCL application can be executed on any GPU that supports the OpenCL standard as long as an OpenCL compatible driver is loaded).


    Wow, you're even too wordy here.

    NOTE TO ALL: openCL (C as in sea).

    Thank you.

    Good day. ;)
    4236) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1269851)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And you want R-money because he will stop corporate handouts?

    You missed that he switched to celtopposite mode, Barry?
    4237) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1269761)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry I solved my own confusion.

    But, as stated, sometimes you need to go back and start from the beginning, I didn't know I had to install the Opencl program first, I assumed it would be in the newest BOINC upgrade.

    In any case, I have 5 cores running CPU and one thread using .05 processor, and the rest GPU, and MAN is it FLYING speedwise.

    I think I got it solved, but, feel free to ad any helpfuls if you wish.


    Keep your eye on results from that computer for a week or two, to be sure none are deemed invalid or something like that.
    4238) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1269752)
    Posted 10 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    as if he is Irish.

    I think he is American.

    The " O ' " is generally in last names of people of Irish descent. While his mother has a minor amount of Irish ancestry, her surname is not his.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
    Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at Kapiʻolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (now Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children) in Honolulu, Hawaii,[2][4][5] and is the first President to have been born in Hawaii.[6] His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born in Wichita, Kansas, and was of mostly English ancestry,[7] along with Scottish, Irish, German, and Swiss.[8][9][10][11][12] His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya.
    4239) Message boards : Politics : Was the past more sensible than the present? (Message 1269746)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes I did see it!

    Oops! Wild, wacky, math educationalists suggest Do the math in your head!

    It will never catch on Sarge, the poor little dears will get a headache trying to do independent thinking without a calculator, and go into therapy which we will all have to pay for through taxes.

    Way too radical. We can't have mentally able kids now can we, what will the world come to .....


    If you followed the link, and investigated, you'd find it came from an organization that is in the US and supposedly loony left.
    4240) Message boards : Politics : Could I do this? (Message 1269744)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought your first post was a channeling of Randy Travis


    Well, then, it must be political. I mean, so many country songs are political. Just look at Toby Keith and The Dixie Chicks!
    4241) Message boards : Politics : Was the past more sensible than the present? (Message 1269644)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1. The loony left were in charge of UK education for far too long and did irrevocable damage.
    2. Too many USA thoughts and ideas filtered over from across the pond.


    Guess you didn't read my latest post in your "Parents in Classes?" thread?
    4242) Message boards : Politics : Time to have some fun with the US Elections! It could be worse, you could be Canadians. (Message 1269634)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course Mr. O’Bama would never sign an order that would consign some lower member of society to oblivion for the good of the country.


    I laugh every time you type this, as if he is Irish.
    4243) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1269595)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]In places where I teach about half drop out of class or make F's each semester in math. Almost all have financial aid. My community college accepts students who have an ACT score of 13. These do not predict to graduate with the required C average. Here maybe 1/3 will pass the math courses that I teach and I do everything possible to get them through the course. The government grants and support are around $100 Billion per year. I would rather teach just those students who are capable of passing. I would limit aid and grants to those scoring a minimum of 19 on the ACT. This would fund maybe 50 billion of socialist security reforms as well.

    Are you familiar with the term "ghost student"? I ask this in all seriousness.[/qu
    Are you implicating that a certain POTUS is one? Id like to see his collage transcrits along with Mitts tax returns. lets see who has what to hide.


    I have not implied anything of the sort. Mr. Rothamel share similar employment, and I wanted to know if he is aware of efforts being made to end waste of financial aid money, or if that is occurring at the institution he teaches at. How you ever came up with the thought I was implying that is far beyond me.
    4244) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1269511)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In places where I teach about half drop out of class or make F's each semester in math. Almost all have financial aid. My community college accepts students who have an ACT score of 13. These do not predict to graduate with the required C average. Here maybe 1/3 will pass the math courses that I teach and I do everything possible to get them through the course. The government grants and support are around $100 Billion per year. I would rather teach just those students who are capable of passing. I would limit aid and grants to those scoring a minimum of 19 on the ACT. This would fund maybe 50 billion of socialist security reforms as well.

    Are you familiar with the term "ghost student"? I ask this in all seriousness.
    4245) Message boards : Politics : Could I do this? (Message 1269323)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is Paul Harvey... Good day!


    Yep, that's what happens to Mark's trials and tribulations threads when they're moved out of the Cafe over to Politics. The thread dies quickly.
    Good day.
    4246) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1269322)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You may be right about the Supremes -- after all, that branch of the legislature has a 5/4 Teapublican majority.


    What about The Commodores?
    4247) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1269321)
    Posted 9 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Adam Smith was right. He never visualized a social world order where indolence was rewarded. The problem is capital; and who is vacuuming up all of the capital that should be used to drive the economy.


    Everyone is into their own interests. That is not a bad thing. I trade my work for monies. Problem is that money is not backed by anything of worth. The gold standard needs to be brought back. If you think there isn't enough gold, draw in some of that paper floating around. If that isn't enough add silver, even Plutonium and Uranium [refined] would work, might even work better?

    Your capital has gone to the Oil Patch, funding social programs for the unproductive, the medical community, China, fighting useless wars of religious idiocy, the Corn producers and the phony Wall Street, Banking and financial market manipulations.


    Indeed, agreed 100%.

    It's all about special interests on a global scale. We cannot grow out of this without cheap and abundant energy and a return of a manufacturing base. In other words we can't grow out of this by taking in each others washing and those that can't pay for theirs as well.


    Once again, agreed.

    I think that people around the world need to be told, just as Peter Stuyvesant told his early group of settlers in New York. "No work--No eat". Well, I am a New Yorker by birth.


    I wouldn't call it the rotten apple if more believed as you do.

    Do you agree? What are your prescriptions for fixing these conditions??


    Yes, with it all but taxing Churches. Really, how much of a dent would be made by taxing them?


    And Dena laughed at me when I said the Tea Party & Occupy Wall Street are pissed about some of the same things.
    4248) Message boards : News : New AstroPulse applications for GPUs. (Message 1268869)
    Posted 8 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've released the first of four new AstroPulse Windows applications for ATI/AMD Graphics Processing Units that support the OpenCL language. If you've got an one of these GPUs you may be able to process AstroPulse results 15x faster than your CPU alone

    The first release supports ATI GPUs on BOINC 7.0.25 or later. The second release (probably next tuesday) will support ATI GPUs on BOINC versions prior to 7.0.25.
    The final two version will be for NVIDIA GPUs. (Until then NVIDIA GPUs will have to satisfy themselves with SETI@home results).

    Thanks to the optimizers at KWSN and the folk at the beta project for helping me get this out.


    If we're already using the Open CL from the optimizers, should we stick with this?
    4249) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1267788)
    Posted 5 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can take whatever tone you wish. I don't care, but if you think that you can bring up a PM key word being Private and then expect me to answer your questions you have another thing coming. It isn't gonna happen...

    To use one of your recent phrases, I've got news for ya, there's no breach of privacy since I repeated something I said, not something you said.
    4250) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1267748)
    Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID -- fair point, in order to re-define what SCOTUS has defined a tax in the ACA, all that need be done is an Amendment to the Constitution -- I agree with you there.

    As folks say these days, 'Good luck with that'.


    And I will agree with you on..."Good luck with that".

    But point being made is that "We the People" are the last word on what is law and what is not. Most don't even know that let alone care about it. But the fact remains that we can and very much should take control of our OWN lives and I mean that in evert little detail because if we don't someone else will for us. And that, that by itself is what has driven our debt, foreign policy, etc, etc, etc...


    Corporations are people, too! Guess they'll help us figure out what our last word should be, eh?

    As I have stated here and firmly believe [by facts, not personal only] the crowd is alot more smart then ANY one person.


    Hmmm ... collectivist/socialist thinking.



    Corporations do not vote in the ballot box.

    No, not collectivist/socialist thinking. Democratic thinking, that being within the state, not federal government. As I have been talking about so far in this thread, Democratic state, and a republic of states, ergo the amendment process.

    Please do try to keep up...


    Corporations influence the individual voters and donate to the SuperPACs, do they not?
    Yes, what I said is an example of collectivist thinking is precisely that: that the masses will make better decisions for most or all involved than can the aggregate result of individuals acting on their self interests.
    As for "please do try to keep up", I remind you now publicly of what I told you in PM, that I do not show you disrespect ... and ... follow the points made up to this post.
    4251) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1267617)
    Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID -- fair point, in order to re-define what SCOTUS has defined a tax in the ACA, all that need be done is an Amendment to the Constitution -- I agree with you there.

    As folks say these days, 'Good luck with that'.

    Is ID saying that is possible today? He is delusional!


    Put your glasses back on and re-read his response to Barry.
    4252) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1267615)
    Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID -- fair point, in order to re-define what SCOTUS has defined a tax in the ACA, all that need be done is an Amendment to the Constitution -- I agree with you there.

    As folks say these days, 'Good luck with that'.


    And I will agree with you on..."Good luck with that".

    But point being made is that "We the People" are the last word on what is law and what is not. Most don't even know that let alone care about it. But the fact remains that we can and very much should take control of our OWN lives and I mean that in evert little detail because if we don't someone else will for us. And that, that by itself is what has driven our debt, foreign policy, etc, etc, etc...


    Corporations are people, too! Guess they'll help us figure out what our last word should be, eh?

    As I have stated here and firmly believe [by facts, not personal only] the crowd is alot more smart then ANY one person.


    Hmmm ... collectivist/socialist thinking.
    4253) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1267613)
    Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah -- so you, like Gary, would 'eliminate' from our country those who don't fit...

    By the way, he also wants to 'cull' the lazy. I suspect your definitions might differ though <smile>

    I would banish the lazy who think they are not lazy (including 1%er laziea) to Dante's Fourth Level of H311.


    Precisely the point.


    I mean, who gets to decide who is "lazy"? Maybe we should base it on the higher one's current posting rate is, the lazier they are?
    4254) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1267433)
    Posted 4 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I sort of understand that folks growing up in the 70's and 80's got very much into being the 'me generation'. Some of the discussion here reflects that.


    Not a fair description of my generation ... ?
    4255) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1266887)
    Posted 3 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah -- so you, like Gary, would 'eliminate' from our country those who don't fit...

    By the way, he also wants to 'cull' the lazy. I suspect your definitions might differ though <smile>

    I would banish the lazy who think they are not lazy (including 1%er laziea) to Dante's Fourth Level of H311.


    Precisely the point.
    4256) Message boards : Politics : What would you do to fix the economy. (Message 1266801)
    Posted 2 Aug 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would banish the lazy who think they are not lazy (including 1%er laziea) to Dante's Fourth Level of H311.
    4257) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1266018)
    Posted 30 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why are you conflating poor and elderly with slacker?

    Got a slacker at work. Has a job. Pay is above minimum wage. His attitude is slacker. He is going to college. Yet, he'll never advance. There is another as well. Occasionally this one shows promise. More often he is a f-up. Doubt he will advance.

    Life, it is what YOU make it.


    I suspect this is off topic, but ... .

    Gary, have you done anything like try to take the second one under your wing and set him in the right direction? If not, why not? If you do not see it as your responsibility, why not?
    4258) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1265048)
    Posted 27 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The educationalists say, why should we bother to teach kids mental arithmetic in the 21st century, when for all practical purposes they don't need that ability, because technology has given them a tool to do it for them.

    But, if you follow that line of reasoning, then people in the future will be a generation of machine minders, and not independent thinking human beings.


    Oops! Wild, wacky, math educationalists suggest Do the math in your head!
    4259) Message boards : Number crunching : Update (Message 1263253)
    Posted 22 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics [Family 20 Model 2 Stepping 0]
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Processor: 512.00 KB cache
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni ssse3 cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Memory: 3.60 GB physical, 7.19 GB virtual
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Disk: 283.29 GB total, 256.38 GB free
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | ATI GPU 0: Loveland (CAL version 1.4.1664, 384MB, 351MB available, 160 GFLOPS peak)
    7/21/2012 6:24:57 PM | | OpenCL: ATI GPU 0: Loveland (driver version CAL 1.4.1664 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (851.4), 384MB, 351MB available)


    Settings for opti apps should be ... ?
    4260) Message boards : Politics : Another American Massacre (Message 1262749)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am very familiar with the law and nothing you said differs with what I said. Any fool can sit through a whole 8 hours of training and still be nuts.


    This has to be one of the rarest threads on here ever, with the people who are agreeing with each other actually doing so.

    Kudos to many who need not be named.

    But let me expand a bit on Gary's and Skil's comments:

    Replace "fool" in Skil's post with Gary's term ("fruitcake", though it'd sure be nice if he cleaned up, such as mentally ill).

    A mentally ill inpatient can learn to mimic the words and behaviors set forth in the goals of the people working with them to move from inpatient to outpatient. Similarly, outpatient to receiving no care at all or at least only in the form of the meds.

    On the one hand, then, someone who is mentally ill but shrewd could go through that 8 hour training mentioned.

    It also says something about those working with the mentally ill. How do they get tricked into believing someone is ready to be released?

    Maybe I need to re-read Gary's post, but, Gary, you do recall what happened to the mental health system in the early 80s, right? (Were you saying you'd be willing to pay the taxes to beef that system back up in place of the tax money going elsewhere?)
    4261) Message boards : Politics : Why should Mitt have to show his tax returns? (Message 1262684)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm Old, Fat, Ugly, White and Bald.

    Luckily, I've got Rich, Good-Looking, Fine Head of Hair, White Guys watching My Back and looking to take care of The DEM/Lib Riff Raff.

    Why should Mitt have to show his tax returns?


    Like Father Like Son. ROTFLMAO.

    Privileged Is It!

    MEH For 2012

    Smoke DEM Cigars!

    Oh Yeah!

    I'llLightDEMCigarsUpWithTheSunFourthAngel



    Winston, do you miss Julia?
    4262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1262454)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I started to forget M'ikMaq, I switched to KnickKnack.
    4263) Message boards : Politics : Why should Mitt have to show his tax returns? (Message 1262445)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So F*** 'em. And they ALWAYS have a cig dangling from their Pie Hole Eating Mouths. Again, F*** 'em. And their kids.

    BarbecueTheHumanRaceFourthAngel


    Yep, kittens in woodchippers. :-(


    ThankfulNoOneLikeDullIsInChargeHere


    Another fat tobacco-smoking guy:



    He must be struggling to make ends meet.
    4264) Message boards : Politics : Why should Mitt have to show his tax returns? (Message 1262437)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the repubs want the rich to pay 10% while the rest struggle to pay 25-35% and eat.

    When a Rich Person cuts a check to The IRS for Their 10%, and The Check is $100,000 to $10,000,000, The Struggling Rest can Kiss Their A**.

    I've seen a lot of The "Struggling Rest". And they look like they Eat Just Fine. They are Fat Fat Fat.


    Ladies & gentleman, we briefly interrupt this DarwinsDullFourthWormNandoAngel rant:



    We now return you to the rant.

    So F*** 'em. And they ALWAYS have a cig dangling from their Pie Hole Eating Mouths. Again, F*** 'em. And their kids.

    BarbecueTheHumanRaceFourthAngel

    4265) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1262381)
    Posted 20 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    most likely Martin already recognized Zimmerman if he had habituated the area. Heck, as far as we know, his friend that he was visiting could have told him about zimmerman being a barking dog. There's just to much we just don't know.


    Trayvon Martin was not from Sanford, one of his parents' is. He went to the other parent's place after a suspension from school.
    4266) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1262238)
    Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    defense only goes so far when you are beating on a supposedly defenseless man. I assume that Martin assumed that same thing, that Zimmerman, as neighborhood watch, would be defenseless and easily subdued.


    Sorry, Skil, but in the interest of equal time:
    Did Zimmerman identify himself as neighborhood watch?.
    4267) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1262116)
    Posted 19 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Zimmerman
    hadn't shot and killed Trayvon Martin, he would have been killed by Trayvon Martin
    , in an act of self-defense on the part of Martin?
    4268) Message boards : Politics : American History (Message 1261737)
    Posted 18 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Chris, looks like Johnney has come up with a seriously thread killer response...

    Oh I wouldn't say that!

    The land bridge, called Beringia, existed during the final period of the last Ice Age, about 15,000 years ago and was about 1000 miles long. The Clovis people spread quickly throughout the New World, populating most of North and South America in less than 1500 years.

    primitive men, women and children slowly crossing Siberia is completely outrageous!

    Walking at 2 mph for 4 hours a day, you could cover 1000 miles in less than 4 months !


    At age 19, I was capable of walking at least 4 mph for at least 3-4 hours along the snowy eastern and norther shores of Lake Onondaga.
    4269) Message boards : Politics : American History (Message 1261645)
    Posted 18 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was Ice. Atlantic Ice.

    During Last Ice Age, 20,000+ years ago, Europeans in boats, Fishing along the Ice Edge, made it to The East Coast. Fishing as they went and staying Onshore during The Long Trip.

    Many of them were banned from Their Tribes and Set Off West to New Lands.

    They made it to the Lower 48 before The Siberians.

    Most Siberian and European "Indians" died when A Meteor hit the Ice Sheet around the Great Lakes region 'bout 13,000 years ago.

    The resultant Shock Wave, Heat Blast and Massive Floodings took out most Large Animals and most Humans.

    Afterwards, mostly Siberian "Indian" decendents repopulated The "US".


    Have also heard this, and an attempt to refute that theory from 2006.
    4270) Message boards : Politics : American History (Message 1261640)
    Posted 18 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do believe some Native Americans have in their legends a long journey over ice. I'll see if I can track that back down. BTW: 12,000, or 17,000, or 30,000-these still fit "created them thousands of years ago."

    Sarge was correct.

    Land Bridge

    Three waves


    My point was not that this is how it happened. It is a theory that has been proposed and a lot of people accept.

    John:

    1) The evolutionists? Sorry, I am pretty sure you're going up against anthropologists, not evolutionists.
    2) You essentially stated we should pay attention to the oral traditions of the Native Americans.
    3) Yes, some of their oral traditions state for as long as they have existed, they have existed on the American continents. This was bolstered as I did some searching last night, trying to track the other thing I thought I'd recently read, and this is the most important point:
    4) I believe I recently read that some of the oral traditions indicate a migration over ice or water. That in fact some do not believe there were always here.

    If I cannot track this down soon, I will speak to my Cherokee acquaintance about different belief systems amongst Native Americans.

    Also, just as someone can give reasons why the idea that The Bering Land Strait was crossed may need to be suspect, so too the counterargument and underlying agenda may be regarded with skepticism.
    4271) Message boards : Politics : Noise and Privilege. Beatle and Boss Silenced. (Message 1261630)
    Posted 18 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winston, do you miss Julia?
    4272) Message boards : Politics : What is "God" and what can "It" "Do"? (Message 1261369)
    Posted 17 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the Native American Indians, with the stone tools, ask them how they got there! They will tell you that "The Creator" created them thousands of years ago. They will tell you that the sky Gods came down from the sky and created them. The Indians know exactly where they came from! They know better than any western culture or white European man.
    John.


    I do believe some Native Americans have in their legends a long journey over ice. I'll see if I can track that back down.
    BTW: 12,000, or 17,000, or 30,000-these still fit "created them thousands of years ago."
    4273) Message boards : Politics : Noise and Privilege. Beatle and Boss Silenced. (Message 1261362)
    Posted 17 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    TheWorldOnFireMakesANiceCracklingSoundFourthAngel

    Don't worry, you are Bradbury's "fireman". 451. But you're no Montag. Degrees, Enjoy the four walls of your parlor. Fahrenheit.
    4274) Message boards : Politics : What caused the obesity crisis in the West? (Message 1260940)
    Posted 16 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is basically what I think. People with low or no self control want to blame anything or anyone else for their lack of self control. If you are too fat simply stop eating so much.

    But not enough control to avoid The Chronic. ;) The 60s are over ... dude.
    4275) Message boards : Politics : What caused the obesity crisis in the West? (Message 1260939)
    Posted 16 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The free market at work.

    There is a reason it is called the boob tube ...


    Looks kinda flat to me.
    The previous TV was more bodacious, but told me I did not prefer that.
    4276) Message boards : Politics : Noise and Privilege. Beatle and Boss Silenced. (Message 1260938)
    Posted 16 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, The Boss and Sir Paul are indeed privileged.
    Yer so funny.
    4277) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1260066)
    Posted 14 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge,

    Looks like you've turned against me for some of the absurdity I've pointed out in these forums.


    Not at all. I asked a serious question.
    As I am currently explaining to someone in a PM response, friends can disagree.
    And I suspect Barry didn't like my tone in a PM to him last night. (Barry, I simply could not find another way to phrase it.)
    4278) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1259675)
    Posted 13 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Civil wars are always between the producers and the non-producers.

    So, one side, North or South, produced, and the other did not?
    I'm fairly certain that's not true. Different regions produced different things, though.

    I'll be on the producer's side.


    What will you be producing?
    Knowledge? Is that even accepted as a product?
    I thought by now you'd realized how little teachers are respected, let alone paid, particularly in certain regions of the country.
    4279) Message boards : Politics : Supreme Court upholds Obamacare (Message 1257807)
    Posted 9 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GuyMan has RIPPED The Engagers; Gorebal Warmers; Egalitarians; Altruists; Government Control Lovers; DEM/Lib/Socialist/Commies; Discussers; Diplomatists; Complicatorists; Smarties; Brainiacs; Profs; White-Collar Do Nothings; Paper Pushers; Cubicle Dwellers; Never Got Their Hands Dirty; and General Can't We All Get Along posters, TO SHREDS.

    Simple. Black and White. Good/Evil. Done. Cooked To Perfection.

    FryingTheWorldSoonRealSoonFourthAngel


    Yeah, no prof or anything like that ever got his or her hands dirty.
    Right.
    Get a life.
    You know next to nothing about ours.
    4280) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1256787)
    Posted 7 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    or the infinite sum of 9 * 10^(n) for n from 1 to infinity.

    Too late to edit: a -n as the power, not n.
    4281) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1256261)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That being said the soviet system was not socialism.


    You can't be saying this with a straight face, can you?


    You can't be asking him this with a straight face, can you?

    That was nothing more than a series of brutal dictators.


    You haven't read The Communist Manifesto from Carl Marx, have you?


    I have read Karl.
    Bloody Revolution was supposed to come from the proles. It did not.
    It came from people already doing reasonably well who wished to replace the dictators and be dictators themselves, thus what Marx envisioned as temporary totalinairism (sp?) after the revolution became instead decades of it.
    4282) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1256255)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Half the problem is the government being in the pocket of big business. Unfortunately this is both sides of the [a]isle...

    Hmmm, ExDave agreeing with Dena. But I'm sure she'll find a way to say they're not in any kind of agreement.
    4283) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1256248)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The power and the money is so strong that they will violate their word to get it.


    So, someone has lots of money.
    Said someone is willing to spend a significant portion to get politicians to do things his or her way.
    Now, if someone has lots of money, that puts them in some small percentage of the population?
    Top 5%?
    Dare I say it? The 1%ers?
    And you think the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street aren't ticked about some of the same things and will never come together?
    Right ... .
    4284) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1256243)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy -- sorry, you misunderstood me (no surprise there) -- I'm suggesting that (when you are honest instead of sarcastic) you would rather see the sort of thing I outlined and THAT would be TeaPublicarationing.

    I see that Dave figured that out.

    Given that you have (in your Guy mode) made your position rather clear, when you post in your Guyopposite mode, it is rather clear as well.

    Some might suggest the two posting modes reflect an internal conflict -- I don't see you as conflicted at all, you just see that Guyopposite mode as your mode of Teapublican humor.

    Since folks who haven't seen your Guy honest mode might pop in over here, it is something that needs pointing out periodically when you post in sarcastic opposite mode.


    I can guyhonestly say I have never seen this.
    ;-)
    4285) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1256242)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Democracy is not a good thing and you don't want it. The reason so many of us "right wing nut-jobs" argue what we do is to look out for YOU and our children and recent immigrants and the poor and the hungry and the diseased and the downtrodden and minorities, and...


    No. The cry of the right is that the left is trying to "watch out for us"-not only in the wrong way, but that we should not be looked out for at all, because we're all big boys and girls.

    The way things need to work, whether they do or not, is for the minority to be protected from the majority. It doesn't matter what side of any given argument you might be on.


    Interesting. I'd always heard it went both ways: protect the minority from the majority AND the majority from the minority (a minority such as, say, King George III).
    Otheriwse, why the bicameral representation?

    The problem is that collectivist thinking is bad. It's always bad. It's always been bad. It's never, ever, ever worked-out well when it is codified and enforced. What we used to call being "Civic Minded" is turning into "central planning."


    Heavy-handedness and government enforcement is totalitarianism, not collective thinking.

    Take a plumber or an electrician or a CPA or a lawyer or the cleaners. If you make their work too hard on them and pay little enough, they will go away.


    What a great idea. Which countries respect professors and pay them decently? I'll get my passport in order.
    4286) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1256233)
    Posted 6 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I am replying to some of the other issues raised to see if, in the end, they have any relevance to the original post.

    William:

    3 times 1/3 equals 1

    3 times .33333333...... equals .9999999999.......

    So I conclude that our numbers are inadequate to correctly express 1/3 as a decimal even though it is a "rational" number.


    Your "dot, dot, dots" imply repetition.
    As such, I do not see a problem.
    Yes, irrational numbers, when written as decimals, will not be expressed exactly. As the rationals either terminate or exhibit periodic repetition, when written as decimals, since we have a method (either the dot, dot, dots or a repetend bar or the part that repeats), any rational number can still be written exactly, even in decimal form.

    2 * 1/2 = 1.
    Yet, also, 2 * 2/4 = 1.

    We do say 1/2 = 2/4, or, at the least, they are equivalent, if you will.

    So, how is this any different from your quoted part of the post?
    If anything, perhaps there are different assumptions involved. That will be addressed below.

    Quantum mysteries in space and time may be nothing more than the fact that there are problems with our numbers and with the Calculus. These have served us well but things get weird in Physics at the very large and the very small.


    I suspect you have not expressed this well.
    You and I should both know about undefined terms, defined terms, axioms and theorems, and the application of logic to develop an axiomatic system.
    Provided consistency, etc. ..., Analysis stands on its own just fine. Whether it serves as a good model for something natural observed in the universe is another question entirely.

    Read a few articles on the Hyperreals and I think you will see what I am getting at in rejecting the popular proofs of .999999..... equal to 1.00000...... . A Hyperreal is a number that is smaller than any real number but greater than zero. It's inverse is larger than any real number . Sounds goofy doesn't it ; but dig into them and you will see what I am talking about.

    There is a video explaining why the popular proofs are incorrect. I will try to find it again when I have more time.


    Again, I suspect you have not expressed this well.
    As I said before, I have not been addressing the hyperreals
    My proof (a "popular proof", as you call it) clearly makes use of classical/standard Analysis.
    In particular, you could say I am considering the infinite sequence {0.9, 0.99, 0.999, ...}, or the infinite sum of 9 * 10^(n) for n from 1 to infinity. Further, the use of if {a_n} ---> A and {b_n} ---> B as n ---> infinity, then {a_n - b_n} ---> A - B as n ---> infinity.
    Given the current axiomatic approach resurrected in the past 100-250 years, approximately, my proof is not wrong. It is correct within a particular axiomatic system.
    To not address this is like denying that the sum of the interior angles of a triangle is 180 degrees. If it is stated or otherwise clear that the other is working within Euclidean geometry, that speaker is not wrong. If you wish to say that sum is not constant and always less than 180 degrees, you should state you are in the Poincare half-plane or something like that.
    4287) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1253964)
    Posted 1 Jul 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You rounded off and you are only accurate to that level. You have no right to assume that the "last" digit at infinity would be any number other than 9. In fact there is no last infinite number.

    William, i am surprised at you.
    No rounding occurred.
    This is something you quite likely saw in your own first semester of calculus.
    And, I hope you read where I typed "(repeating)".

    2/3 = 0.6 (repeating)

    Let x = 0.6 (repeating).
    Then 10x = 6.6 (repeating).

    10x = 6.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 (repeating)
    -1x = 0.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 (repeating)
    ==============================================================
    9x = 6.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    In every single place, except for the ones place, the digits agree: they are sixes. So, in every spot except the ones place, the difference will be 0 (no borrowing/exchanging needed). (IE, the zeros repeat. There is no rounding!)

    Now, since 9x = 6, x = 6/9, and of course, 6/9 reduces to 2/3.
    Right back where I started.

    Similarly, with no "tomfoolery", 0.9 (repeating) = 1, as stated.
    4288) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1253361)
    Posted 29 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wait a tic you substituted 0.9 for .999999999etc thats not a logical substitution


    No, I didn't.
    And the earlier part of the convo suggested infinite repetition was involved.
    4289) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1253212)
    Posted 29 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, 0.999999999999999999999999, if the 9's are allowed to repeat infinitely, equals 1 (not 0.000000000000000000000001), and this is easily proved with no tricks or flaws
    .

    You may be assuming something that is not strictly true.

    Repeating 9's are different in every single decimal position . In my study of the hyperreals that does not make them equal, They would have to match in a substantially BIG Set of decimal positions.


    Let x = 0.9 (repeating).
    Then 10x = 9.9 (repeating).
    10x - x = 9x
    and,
    since in each place except the ones, the digits agree,
    9.9 (repeating) - 0.9 (repeating) = 9.
    So, 9x = 9. Hence, x = 1.

    This used to be shown in first semester calculus. It is also included in texts for preservice elemntary teachers, such as by Long et al. and Billstein et al.

    I am not saying anything about the hyperreals.
    What little I do know, IIRC, is that one mathematician or a small group of them are trying to restore the concept of the infinitesmal to the development of calculus, and has had some success in setting up an axiomatic system and developing from there. Also, that the hyperreals contain the reals and that, locally (in the topological sense), the properties of the reals remain the same.
    4290) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1253008)
    Posted 29 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID, it is clear that you do not understand Borel's law of large numbers as applied to random chance and infinity. Borel stated that as long as a probability exists and given an infinite number of attempts the event will occur! At least that is what the link you cited states.

    you could also do the mooWrapper project which is looking to crack secure coding. The project at current rates of work would take about 250 years to process all possible combinations. This isn't infinite.



    Whats a fact Jack is that them two numbers [zero and the one given at the site I posted] walk so close together that when they get up in the morn they get into the same pair of pants.

    Show some understanding of the math...


    so 0.000000000000000000000001 is virtually identical to 0.999999999999999999999999? I'm betting math will tell me this are significantly different numbers. So if I were looking at a precision piece of equipment and it said the tolerances were +/- 0.000000000000001 thats not even close to 1 but it is a lot more than 0. You seem to forget your authors point about the magnitude of numbers.


    No, 0.999999999999999999999999, if the 9's are allowed to repeat infinitely, equals 1 (not 0.000000000000000000000001), and this is easily proved with no tricks or flaws.

    Clearly, 0.000000000000000000000001 is 100000000000000000000000 times smaller than 1 = 0.9 repeating.
    4291) Message boards : Politics : Big Bang ain't got no religion (Message 1253006)
    Posted 29 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Math doesn't use philosophy


    Sigh. (Along with Gary's apparently opposite earlier comment, that someone with a Bachelor's in Philosophy will understand mathematics.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics

    4292) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250786)
    Posted 24 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apparently you are so ignorant


    Don't worry, Gary, I won't red X you, even after a clear flame, even though you threatened me with a red X after you perceived I had flamed you, via saying you "would not quote" but responded to the post.

    as to think that isn't going on today. I bet you believe everyone obeys the law all the time. That no one would ever cheat on their taxes. That no one would ever drive one mile per hour over the speed limit. That no one would ever drink and drive.


    Speaking of evidence, show me one bit of evidence anything I said in this post or any other post suggested I think this. You're not talking to Guy.

    Show me some data. Several states made pot legal recently, did they suddenly have an epidemic of new car crashes?


    As I understand it, they made medicinal marijuana legal. As I do not use it or any other form of it, I do not go following the details entirely.
    Who is it you worry will wrap their car around a telephone pole will be? (Really, I do not think you worry. There's no evidence for it. Which is strange, considering someone else could be pulled in as collateral damage.)

    You know, I really like the phrase, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary ... " (proof?).
    But:

    1) Seems you and several others have plenty of time on your hands, with well over 10 posts a day. So, why don't you fill some of that time looking up the data for me? Let me know if I am right or wrong. Besides, I do not think mu suggestion is THAT extraordinary.
    2) Here's a place to start. Or, use google if you prefer. You might find this one interesting.
    Oh, sorry, you still thought you were talking to Guy, and weren't expecting a single shred of evidence?

    Ex: I am hypothesizing based on having known many people who use, from different walks of life, from across the USA, and do make use of 2 or all 3. Let's do a little additional hypothesizing, followed by perhaps some ... oops ... evidence! The additional thought is this, following Bob DeWoody's comment about cost. So, alcohol and tobacco are easier to obtain, due to legality and cost? Then perhaps people will have 2 or all 3 present when the marijuana is present. Now, consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_smoking.

    As of 2012, there is still no conclusive correlation between the effects of cannabis smoke and an increased incidence of lung cancer in humans. There are difficulties in finding and studying subjects who have only been exposed to cannabis smoke as many subjects tend to smoke or are exposed to tobacco smoke concurrently.


    (Emphasis added.)

    Granted, that quote is followed by "citation needed".

    But certainly, due to legality, it will indeed be difficult to find subjects to study.
    And someone else is suggesting concurrent use.

    Given the concern about driving while impaired, from alcohol or other items: Bob DeWoody, I walk home, 1.3 miles. And even with my low tolerance, an average of 2 pints isn't that much. Particularly when metabolized over 2-3 hours. I would likely not even be there for that if I was not there for the music. Once or twice a week.
    4293) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250653)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. I finished that last post just before 4:20. But, of course, you'll claim to not know the significance of that number/time of day, either, right?
    4294) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250650)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well that disqualifies you for the office of President -- disqualifies Romney too, but that's another story <smile>



    As for my ccnsumption of weed: none. EVER.
    Alcohol? Prolly far less than you and the average person.


    But surely Richard & Ronald abstained? Maybe even Jimmy and GHW?
    4295) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250648)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Legal drugs for all. Just declare yourself, sign the DNR. Then anything you want. Congress can then sin tax it up the ying yang.


    Sure, the sin tax will sound great to a lot of us.
    Except that you probably really do not want to be around the chronic users of the chronic. Right? At best, they might serve as a source for jokes, regarding their lack of self-control.
    At worst, we'll find out that when they drive impaired, they'll cause accidents, too. Then, despite the money raked in from the sin tax and the libertarian point of view, when one of those accidents draws you or a relative, loved one or friend in as collateral damage, then you'll be screaming.
    4296) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250643)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, how little you know Sarge. Nobody has ever thought of me as a liberal hippie. And I can't afford to smoke enough pot to be labelled as a chronic smoker. I don't know you personally but I'd be curious to know whether you are a consumer of alcohol and if so how much?


    For further elaboration: what's the best estimate of the true percentage of those who use marijuana that do not also drink alcohol and smoke Philip Morris' tobacco cigarettes? I will bet it is close to 0%. So, it might be a good idea to drop the false di/trichotomy.
    4297) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250472)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, how little you know Sarge. Nobody has ever thought of me as a liberal hippie. And I can't afford to smoke enough pot to be labelled as a chronic smoker. I don't know you personally but I'd be curious to know whether you are a consumer of alcohol and if so how much?


    Oh, how much I know.
    Chronic is slang for weed.
    Too bad you missed the sarcasm. It's ok for the well-to-do to smoke it, but not for the lower class. Remember, it'll be a gateway drug for them, sending in them into wild rages!
    Guess your high school was one of the few that lacked the cliques, jocks, preps and heads? (Heads = potheads.) Except the jocks were smoking it, too. Such irony. Again, you missed the sarcasm.

    As for my ccnsumption of weed: none. EVER.
    Alcohol? Prolly far less than you and the average person.
    4298) Message boards : Politics : Uruguay to legalize and sell cannabis (Message 1250267)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Something that should have been done a long time ago everywhere else.


    Chronic smokin' liberal hippies ... makes me sick.
    4299) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1250217)
    Posted 23 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BarryAZ, you said you're in your late 60s? You're in a group that probably won't be around for the transition.


    Hmmm. That explains my great grandfather living to 88, his daughter and her husband (my paternal grandfather) each living to 83, and my father being 72 in a few days. I'm so glad you have explained the left shift of life spans to me. That, in fact, none of them could live to more than 73 (as 69 is the maximum possible value for later 60s, and 69 + 4 [the length of a presidential term] = 73).

    TheEnlightenedGuyWhoJustGotBackFromTooMuchAlcoholDrugsGambilingStrippersAndProstitutionInLasVegas


    Drugs are for chronic smokin' hippy liberals. But, perhps this explains the bit about age spans, above, eh?
    4300) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1246827)
    Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The progressive system you are decrying was based on child centered learning. However, what has cause the death of standards is not the "loonie left" agenda, but the over testing of pupils to asses teachers and the ranking of schools. (Because the Right-wing did not trust teachers to do their job)


    Right on, sister! Preach it! In the US, we have ... you guessed it .. .Laira Bush! ... to thank for that.
    4301) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1246824)
    Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why did you drop the last sentence from the quoted paragraph "But she mastered the job and was toughened by the experience", and why not provide its source?


    Oh dear we are being Mr. Picky today aren't we. She might have been a good Prime Minister but she will be forever remembered as "Thatcher the milk snatcher" for her time as Education Secretary, and I don't think she did a particularly good job in that role. And no, before you ask, I'm not going to quote you chapter and verse as to why.

    I'm just waiting for your Freudian slip - "Why? because you sez so?" then I will know it's Rush back under a nom de plume.


    LOL. That's funny. Rush & Bobby e-mail me from different accounts. Rush/Bobby, has u been messin' wit my head? :)
    Besides, Rush is clearly a libertarian, and Bobby well to the left of that.
    4302) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1246819)
    Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, I'm closer to the high end of my 40's.

    As for his latest edict, that's going to get him as many as 800,000 votes!

    And this is going to cause civil unrest no matter how it turns out.


    I take it you're referring to Marco Rubio's plan?
    4303) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1246626)
    Posted 15 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see that Obama would prefer a rational rather immigration policy -- perhaps more like that suggested by McCain before he got 'TeaParty fever'. I can see how a rational policy would antagonize those for whom rational is a bad, evil word.


    Barry, I think the fever McCain caught is Bieber.
    4304) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1246311)
    Posted 15 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm going to vote for the American. Whomever that may be.

    Is there an American running for President?

    How about the Mexican-American that consumes mass quantities of "Just For Men-Touch of Grey"?
    4305) Message boards : Politics : SETI ''NO PREJUDISM'' thread. (Message 1246046)
    Posted 14 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't like the tone of this thread

    I don't understand it myself.

    Since we don't understand it aren't we obligated to hate it?


    I don't understand women! :P
    4306) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1246033)
    Posted 14 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, you don't have to answer this, but are you over 60 years old? (It could explain a lot to me)


    ok


    I suspect Guy is in his mid-fiddies.
    4307) Message boards : Politics : Danged Liberals and their debates (Message 1243091)
    Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK -- that's a non-partisan presentation and thus more nuanced. William was suggesting that Republicans are industrious and Democrats are lazy (using your terms). I rejected that as being a tad over the top.

    There ARE decent conservative arguments to be made -- frankly, you have a far better aptitude for making them than some others who populate the boards.



    No not an attitude by the poor. An attitude described by the difference in the thought process. I know many poor whose first thought will be to get out and hustle up another job. Call them industrious. I also know many whose first thought will be to grab for assistance. Call them lazy.

    Why are some industrious people poor? Because the skill set they have to offer is common and not rare and in demand. Lazy people are poor because ...


    Don't sell William Rothamel short on aptitude, Barry. From what I can tell, William and I have very similar backgrounds and interests, with him being about 20 years older.
    The thing is, we are interested in these politics, but I and I suspect he, didn't take courses in political science, macro- and micro-economics, so on and so forth.
    I, and perhaps WIlliam as well, can only contribute so much to these discussions. I do my best not to assert things as fact if I do not know them to be with 100% certainty or nearly so.
    4308) Message boards : Politics : Danged Liberals and their debates (Message 1243087)
    Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    being a white men's club.


    I see it as a distinction, not of race, but rather of those who want to earn their living and those who think they are entitled to a handout from those that do.


    Most people would be happy to earn a living. Most are not content with "earning" subsistence while others wallow in wealth that is certainly not "earned" but compiled in the blood sweat and tears of others desperatly trying to earn a "living" only to be cast aside at the whim of those with the purse strings.

    I think the distinction is a bit different. Those that when laid off first thought is to start sending out resume's and those whose first thought is the unemployment office. Likely the difference is thought process, "well that is life, better get on with it." vs "damn the man stuck it too me again, he'll hold me down so I better milk it for all I can."


    Yeah,
    You're right.
    I mean, it's not like there's anyone out there that at the same time would both send out resumes while also thinking "the MAN stuck it to me" and signed up to get unemployment for ONE MONTH ... ONE MONTH ... the first time in their middle age life.
    I mean, heck, those unemployment checks are sooo HUGE! Certainly, they are incentive to stop one from seeking new employment.
    4309) Message boards : Politics : Evidence for God from Science: Christian Apologetics History of the Bible: How The Bible Came To Us (Message 1243053)
    Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some dude called Noah, at some indeterminate point in history was forewarned some time in advance, some say 2-3 years, by 3rd parties unknown, that a serious flood was going to happen in his neighbourhood. He was apparently given precise instructions on how to build a wooden ship to survive this flood, and what he was supposed to embark as the cargo. The vessels dimensions were to be roughly 450 feet long x 75 feet wide, and 45 feet in height.

    Myths

    This is a modern 500 foot tanker.



    This flood seems to have lasted for ten months and was said to be 22 feet above the tops of mountains. The Ark is supposed to have come to rest on the Mount Ararat range which is in the Armenian plateau with elevations 12-16,000 feet above the current sea level.

    Quite amazing really that this dude and his family spent all that time building this ship, from it would seem an inexhaustible supply of timber, nails, and pitch, and access to umpteen animals which were presumably spread all over the world, just upon the say so of this 3rd party, without any proof of a valid reason.

    Nah.

    There probably was a biblical flood, it may well have been the Black sea rising, or the Med deluge, but not one 16,000 feet deep, and not lasting nearly a year. Where would the excess water have drained off to anyway? Fact has got mixed up with fiction, which has got mixed up with metaphoric statements.


    Who said 10 months to a year, Chris?!?
    The lines is "40 days and 40 nights ...".
    Not that that makes the story true or untrue, either. But I do not recall any version of the story where it stretched 10-12 months.
    4310) Message boards : Politics : Evidence for God from Science: Christian Apologetics History of the Bible: How The Bible Came To Us (Message 1243041)
    Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, that is a very interesting paradox you posit. If it is someone else's thought I still thank you.

    I don't remember reading it anywhere, but the mind is the second thing to go.


    Actually, your post here, and some other recent posts, quite remind me of the ending of A.C. Clarke's "Rama" quadrology.

    As for Blank and Dull's posts, I think Blank hit the nail on the head pretty well, because Dull is the type of guy to ignore the defenses I provide in favor of places where I disagree with him or the community, just so, as Blank says, Dull can create a wound a pour lemon juice on it.

    Go for it, Dull, rave about me being a professor. Rave on, while my full reality passes you by, so that we can make assumptions about you, never really knowing your full reality. Because, ultimately, that's how you like it.

    [EDIT]Crap. I just agreed with Blank on something, but as he recently said, I don't give him things to agree with me on. In the end, his quote "evidence means nothing to me" rings down the tunnel of time 5 years later.[/EDIT]
    4311) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1239656)
    Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Madison, Monroe, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin and Hamilton were all deists. Also there is reason to believe that many of the other so-called "founding" fathers had no specific belief in Christianity at all.
    No Socialistic (if it isn't a word, it is now lol) faith there, not until later when the Puritans took over and all hell broke loose that culminated in the Salem tragedy (among other religiously inspired horrors)


    Oh, so the Puritans of the early 1600s came after the founding fathers of the late 1700s? OK. :)
    (THIS is where Gary should be talking about the causal principle.)
    4312) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1239654)
    Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID, mere words can not say enough about your delusions. Get out of your sheltered "university enclave" and go try the real, working world.

    He never said he was a professor. He could be a janitor. It's all good.
    To my knowledge, among current posters in the Political Forum, only I and WIlliam Rothamel are professors. Maybe 1 or 2 others.



    Why does this worry you so? [smile] What if I am the janitor? Or groundskeeper? Or perhaps a glorified light bulb changer? What does it matter? Are you inferring that I cannot have correct answers unless Im a professor?


    He was actually sticking up for you...


    Interesting how people miss such things, eh? And how many more times will he ask me, I wonder?
    4313) Message boards : Politics : An argument for the existence of God: First formulation… (Message 1239648)
    Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then you are a Father, assuming you are Gary and not really Geraldine. And, assuming Gary rather than Geraldine again, even if you do not have children, you are certainly someone's son.

    Ah, so there are at least two Gods in the Christian religion. God, the dad, and God Jesus the Son. As I said this drives Muslim's insane as they believe in only one God.


    That is not what I said, nor what I implied.
    The One is *manifested* in three ways, just as the one person (substitute Gary Charpentier if applicable) manifests himself as his parents' son but also manifests himself as the father of his own children.

    Quite a trick to be your own father ... seems to violate cause and effect.

    This interpretation by no means proves that there is a good, or the Triune Christian God. It simply points out a strawman. There's no real issue, no contradiction.

    It also says nothing about my current agnosticity.

    If there's a flaw in what I state, please, feel free to elaborate.

    Funny, I thought a causal principal was assumed to arrive at God. If no God, no universe. So if God existed before he was born about 2000 years ago, that violates the causal principal or there are two Gods. Or we get into God moving copies of his conscious around between vessels. ID didn't like that when I mentioned it earlier in the thread. Also the causal principal is really ID's line.


    Gary, i think you are once again resorting to an approach that is beneath you. Maybe being deliberately obtuse?
    Another term that has been used, IIRC, besides Trinity is the Triune God. Three-in-one. Three manifestations ... three perspectives ... of the same thing.
    I have never heard any Christian claim there is more than one God, that I can recall.
    This is a non-issue. A debate is being manufactured where one need not exist.
    There is nothing regarding 2000 years ago and the causal principle.
    I would think the example regarding one person, say you, being your parents' son, and, if you have children, you are your childrens' father, would easily explain things. The same person, viewed from different perspectives. No b.s. claims about you being your own father.
    But, as an agnostic, I do not care whether the explanation of how Christians (or some Christians) view it works for you or not.
    4314) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1239131)
    Posted 31 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID, mere words can not say enough about your delusions. Get out of your sheltered "university enclave" and go try the real, working world.

    He never said he was a professor. He could be a janitor. It's all good.
    To my knowledge, among current posters in the Political Forum, only I and WIlliam Rothamel are professors. Maybe 1 or 2 others.
    4315) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1239129)
    Posted 31 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know why all you socialist worry about the economy taking a dive? It's going to by over regulation. It's a money bubble and it's going to pop by all the printing [e-money] going on. It's a simple fact we can't print our way out of debt just look at Germeny between WW1 and WW2. Same thing going on, but we are the cause of it. It will pop or the Middle-East will unhook the dollar from oil, either way it's going down. And the problem is both sides of congress and the idiots we have as our top bankers.

    Socialism isn't the cure. It never will be the cure. It can never be a cure. To take from another and give to another by means of government, not the 'one', can only lead to once more the rich getting richer. Look a North Korea, the old USSR, China, the dear leaders of them countries and party officals are the rich. You have only traded the slave masters, thats all.

    A Constitutional Republic of the people themselves is the only cure for the sickness we have.

    As soon as we unpegged our dollar from the goldstandard of 1970 and hooked it to the oil standard, the death nail was driven into our coffin. We became slaves to the Middle-East and had no real power of negotiation. Slowly the power of the dollar was taken from us and put into the hands of multinational corporations I post the book 1984 for a reason...

    How the hell do you think Socialism will cure our problems when it is in fact what we already have? It isn't working and we have had Socialism for many a year now [1913] with both sides of the party line running things. It isn't working!

    Return to the tax system we had in 1790, federal level. Allow the states to tax how they wish. Allow the free market to correct and fix the economy. Undue all the laws that allowed companies to leave our land in the first place with tax credits. Enforce the Tariff System. Reenstate Adam Smith's ideas of how to run a sound free market.

    This worked so well for over 150 or so years that it is a time to return to old ideas that gave us true freedom in the first place.

    I refuse to let you people keep us and yourselves in slavery.


    Once again, a reminder: George Orwell was ... ... ...
    ... a socialist! 1984 was a book abou socialism that goes to far, or, perhaps, totalitarianism mixed with socialism.
    4316) Message boards : Politics : An argument for the existence of God: First formulation… (Message 1239126)
    Posted 31 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then you are a Father, assuming you are Gary and not really Geraldine. And, assuming Gary rather than Geraldine again, even if you do not have children, you are certainly someone's son.

    Ah, so there are at least two Gods in the Christian religion. God, the dad, and God Jesus the Son. As I said this drives Muslim's insane as they believe in only one God.


    That is not what I said, nor what I implied.
    The One is *manifested* in three ways, just as the one person (substitute Gary Charpentier if applicable) manifests himself as his parents' son but also manifests himself as the father of his own children.

    This interpretation by no means proves that there is a good, or the Triune Christian God. It simply points out a strawman. There's no real issue, no contradiction.

    It also says nothing about my current agnosticity.

    If there's a flaw in what I state, please, feel free to elaborate.
    4317) Message boards : Politics : An argument for the existence of God: First formulation… (Message 1238934)
    Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    VeryHowever I will say that Christians do seem to believe there are three gods, a point that drives Islam insane as they believe in only one god. To get away from the three Gods then God must have caused himself to cease to exist as God when he created and entered Jesus's body. Then upon his death, caused himself to be a spirit.

    Gary,
    Its not 3 separate gods. The 3 gods are one! The father, the son and the holy spirit are one.

    Here is the break-down;
    1. The Father - The original guy
    2. The Son, Jesus - A DNA cloned copy of his father. Hence he is the same guy as the father.
    3. The Holy Spirit - The DNA code that can be used to create another copy of the original guy anywhere he choses.

    So they visited the Holy Virgin Mary in the middle of the night, put her under anaesthetic, and impregnated her with the Jesus embryo. Same as we do today with IVF treatment for couples with fertility problems. Hence Jesus was the father, the son and the holy spirit all in one.

    Now that wasn't so hard to understand after all, now was it?

    John.


    What in the world is this?
    And why the question?
    Gary, do you have children? Then you are a Father, assuming you are Gary and not really Geraldine. And, assuming Gary rather than Geraldine again, even if you do not have children, you are certainly someone's son.
    Geez, seriously, that's not how other people explain the Trinity?
    Anyway, that still doesn't state whether any religions' got it right or not. But The Trinity should be a trivial issue. Sorry, Ziyad, Marwan, Omar, Achmed, and other former Islamic colleagues of mine.
    4318) Message boards : Politics : An argument for the existence of God: First formulation… (Message 1238931)
    Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I said...

    People are born and then they die (quantified variables, a tangible absolute). First-order logic. It is the act of counting and measuring that maps human sense of what we see, taste, feel, and this translates into experiences into members of some set.


    Platonism of some sort I do believe in.

    The square of any nonzero number is nonzero.

    [smile]...if one assumes the continuum hypothesis.


    Folland paraphrase: "If your dissertation winds up depending on assuming the continuum hypothesis, drop it and find another topic."

    So, either you read a few random things here and there, or you've hidden pretty well who you are/what you do. Which is it?
    4319) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1238910)
    Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hope you all are well rested after Monday.
    Here's a topic I really wanted discussed.

    Again, the main issue is, Zimmerman was told in training and during his phone call to authorities NOT to get out, pursue or confront.


    Next, on further reflection, just because Zimmerman is of mixed race does not mean he cannot be racist. (Whether he is or not is not for me to decide.) In the mid-90s, I taught at a school for emotionally disturbed teens, but it also included teens deemed PINS (person in need of supervision). It as a step or two below juvenile hall. Some of these teens were multiracial. Some of that group had ambivalent feelings about their heritage. Some identified more with a particular race. Could they have had racist thoughts?
    4320) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1236047)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of moon colonization, yes, it is sad that Gingrich was mocked for it. Except ... just how close to being CAPABLE of it are we? What's the longest anyone's been able to stay in the ISS? How much more difficult is it going to be to deliver supplies of food, gases (oxygen) and so on to a moon base than to the ISS? And these are just some preliminary questions.
    4321) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1236032)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It makes sense there are only two parties in that you either want MORE government or you want LESS government. There are only two sides to that coin. It's a binary question. Yes, no. Black, white. On, off. One, zero.


    Strikes me as a false comparison.
    Pay more in taxes to fund Homeland Security to keep the mom who's worried with every new al Qaeda related story.
    Or, pay more in taxes for better education.
    Either way, you pay the taxes.

    So, the natural course is to crash as nations. That's the only way I can see resetting some laws. But by this time, it'll be a pretty scary proposition. Because we won't be reviewing/slashing/burning/revitalizing since 1900, we'll be starting all over again from 1776 but with different circumstances.


    Careful, I suggested such a thing and Dena essentially said I'm an idiot.
    4322) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1236028)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It makes sense there are only two parties


    Sorry, I'm gonna challenge you upon that, I think you are wrong. We have that very same problem in the UK in that the Tory and Labour parties play leapfrog and take it in turns to run the country. Most people don't want either of them in power, but what other choice have they got? We don't have a strong enough 3rd party to make a realistic change.

    You have the same problem in the USA ......


    +1
    4323) Message boards : Politics : My take on the US presidential election. (Message 1236026)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks to democrat created inflation, a million dollars is not that much any more. Try a billion.


    Thats true. I remember a longish time ago the definition of a millionaire also included those families with an income of $100,000 per annum.

    Well, guess what, if a couple, over 25, both earn just over the average income in full time work, that figure has been reach in 2012.


    Hmmm. As a poster from the UK, could that have anything to do with the difference (or former difference) in how we named our larger numbers?
    4324) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1236020)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "...that depends on what the definition of "is" is."
    Lol, classic lawyer talk. (seriously though, the guy was on trial for getting a bj, that's not fair)


    The original act should have been between Bill, Hillary, Monica and few others. It should never have gone to the levels it did. But since it did, Bill's double-talk was disgusting. How anyone could trust Al Gore or Hillary after that, when they did not distance himself from him, I do not know. It proved they were opportunists.

    Once Bill lost his pretrial with Paula Jones and had to testify, only a dad blame fool would not have settled. A sorry would have made it all go away. Being a "lawyer" he had to know he would be deposed and asked the question. How the hell did he ever get his law degree, or does he represent the average lawyer?


    I did not recall what happened with the Paula Jones trial. I think I do remember it did go beyond the rumors heard during the '92 campaign, though.

    I could be wrong, but I do not think it speaks to his intelligence.
    I think it speaks volumes about his wisdom and his opportunism.

    Yes, maybe a "Sorry" to Paula Jones would have gone a long way.

    I just think it was sad that Ken Starr went after Clinton the way he did. Sadder still that Clinton denied. Worst of all, that he played games with words, like the lawyer he is, only in the end to admit it had indeed happened. Clinton didn't just play those games with his accusers, he played the game with the entire country.

    And, ironically, Gingrich was involved in similar philandering at the same time.
    4325) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1235695)
    Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.

    Right wing spin on huffington post?... I'll try to keep my eyes open for that but honestly the idea never jumped out at me...


    I think Barry managed to trick us younger folks (as in at least 15-20 years younger than him). I think I know what he meant, but tiredness on my part and possible mild sarcasm on his ... .
    4326) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1235577)
    Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I supposed I could state the US Constitution wasn't legitimately passed and you'd agree?


    I was just referring to my curiosity as to what is a "legitimately passed" amendment. It would help me to understand what amendments you may feel were not passed properly, and why.

    I'm not asking what the meaning of "is" is.


    "...that depends on what the definition of "is" is."
    Lol, classic lawyer talk. (seriously though, the guy was on trial for getting a bj, that's not fair)


    The original act should have been between Bill, Hillary, Monica and few others. It should never have gone to the levels it did. But since it did, Bill's double-talk was disgusting. How anyone could trust Al Gore or Hillary after that, when they did not distance himself from him, I do not know. It proved they were opportunists.
    4327) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1235576)
    Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, if on a 1 left and 10 right scale, one is at say about 8 or 9 then most of the world has a left wing spin....

    You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.


    The articles I've read online from Huff Post seem to the left. (Funny, since it and others are owned by corporations or individual 1%ers.) This would fit the right-wing spin, that much of the media spins left. Am I making sense yet? :)
    4328) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1235547)
    Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, I'm expected to do something for my paycheck.


    As am I. :)
    Again, the main issue is, Zimmerman was told in training and during his phone call to authorities NOT to get out, pursue or confront.
    Also interesting: if I remember correctly, he had a prior record. Why would such a person be on a Neighborhood Watch team and, further, be a captain of it?!?
    Next, on further reflection, just because Zimmerman is of mixed race does not mean he cannot be racist. (Whether he is or not is not for me to decide.) In the mid-90s, I taught at a school for emotionally disturbed teens, but it also included teens deemed PINS (person of need of supervision). It as a step or two below juvenile hall. Some of these teens were multiracial. Some of that group had ambivalent feelings bou their heritage. Some identified more with a particular race. Could they have had racist thoughts?
    Last: just because GS is now with ABC and not with BC doesn't fit the right wing spin of how the media is biased towards the left.
    4329) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1234596)
    Posted 21 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush has an odd notion of suppression, the news about the examination by Zimmerman's doctor comes from ABC (or is that media organization of "the right"?). Hiding in plain sight?


    I believe the head talking head reporter at ABC is Georgy Stephystephanoplois (Rush's pet name for him in the early 90s), once the talking head for Bill Clinton.


    What?! No answer to this, Guy? Surely you remembered how much Rush hated the Snufflelugapus, errr, Stephystephanopolis. and realize how odd it is for for Rush to now credit the Snufflestephy lamestream network with, well, pretty much ANYTHING. Right?
    4330) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1233204)
    Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush has an odd notion of suppression, the news about the examination by Zimmerman's doctor comes from ABC (or is that media organization of "the right"?). Hiding in plain sight?


    I believe the head talking head reporter at ABC is Georgy Stephystephanoplois (Rush's pet name for him in the early 90s), once the talking head for Bill Clinton.
    4331) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1233201)
    Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Another detail that has come out in the local reports. Zimmerman's grandfather was black. That's exactly right. That has also surfaced. I wonder how long all of this stuff has been known by our friends in the Drive-By Media? George Zimmerman has more black in him than Elizabeth Warren has Indian. Exactly right. George Zimmerman's grandfather was black. Now, I had never heard that before, but assuming that that's true, George Zimmerman is a heck of a lot more black than Elizabeth Warren is Indian, exactly as you stated,"

    "RUSH: A minor, minor correction here. It was Zimmerman's mother's grandfather who was black, which would make it his great-grandfather. Zimmerman's great-grandfather was black. "

    Pay attention, much, Rush? Just found this out? May 16, 2012?

    "The local prosecutor in Florida claims that Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin. Not only did he profile Trayvon Martin, he stalked Trayvon Martin before killing him, and unlike the charge of second-degree murder, this hate crime, if he's convicted of it, could get Zimmerman executed.

    So apparently noticing a stranger in your neighborhood is profiling and following this stranger to see what he's up to is stalking. They both are hate crimes, according to the Obama regime, even though the article mentions in passing that Zimmerman's mother's grandfather is black."

    Local prosecutor = Obama regime?
    4332) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1233196)
    Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why the left dropped the Trayvon Martin case? No longer a head scratcher.

    The answer is here!


    Or perhaps "the left" were interested in seeing the judicial system be allowed to take it's course.

    As for the Rush piece:

    Everything Zimmerman said about what happened to him turns out to be true after the media trying to cast him along with the civil rights coalitions of this country, the race-baiters, as abject lies. (interruption) What do you mean, not rush to judgment? It's been two months. I'm not speculating. I'm telling you what the doctor said. There's no speculation going on. The doctor is not speculating. The doctor did the exam the day after the incident happened. It's all been suppressed.


    Speculation is precisely what Rush is doing. What's the "chain of custody"? It's possible that the injuries to Zimmerman were made after Martin was shot. As I recall Zimmerman was not held in custody prior to the doctor's examination. Concluding that Zimmerman has been scrupulously truthful based on the doctor's account may be premature.

    Rush has an odd notion of suppression, the news about the examination by Zimmerman's doctor comes from ABC (or is that media organization of "the right"?). Hiding in plain sight?


    Zimmerman was at the police department. I think it was said for about 4 hours? In any case, it was at that point he refused their offer to take him to a hospital, opting to see his own doctor the next day.

    "Was it when they found out that George Zimmerman is actually Hispanic and a Democrat to boot?"

    Really? It was pretty clear from the beginning he's Hispanic. Hence my surprise a few weeks ago when he was described as a "white man".
    4333) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1233152)
    Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why the left dropped the Trayvon Martin case? No longer a head scratcher.

    The answer is here!


    The fact remains that Zimmerman was told in training, and during his call to 911, to not get out of his vehicle and pursue/confront. Perhaps it was Martin who was "standing HIS ground"?!?
    4334) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1231414)
    Posted 13 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is being locked for 24 hours. Debate is welcome, Attacks are not, Hence the time out.


    Greetings, James et al.

    Jim_S has suggested that I ask for this thread to be locked again, as it is already long (particularly for those that still have to put up with dialup) and that I start a second version of this thread, perhaps laying down some ground rules. This might not be a bad idea. however, S@H already has rules for posting on their message boards. What could I add? I can look at Qui-Gon's old "Religious Thread"s for ideas, if he'd added anything, but I do not recall that he did.

    Here is one rule I absolutely insist on: no one that is discussing religion (from whatever angle) may be run out of this thread.
    I had plans to create the thread anyway, but when the intelligent design and whether it should be taught in US schools arose in my "Head Scratchers" thread, it made it all the more necessary, as it was off-topic.
    So, sorry, but when "xclusive (aka Dave Two)" tried to run our fellow poster Intelligent Design out of this thread and into one he (xclusive) created, that was wrong. It is part of the discussion that this thread is for, whether I agree with it or not.
    And just to be clear, I do not believe the I.D. theory. But I do defend the poster I.D.s right to discuss it, in a thread which includes that as a topic.

    These things being said, moderators, if you do wish to lock this thread again and have me open Mach II of this thread, let me know. However, I would appreciate some guidance, via PM discussion, regarding ground rules to set, beyond what has already been mentioned.
    4335) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1230611)
    Posted 11 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We have no accepted set. Not that I haven't been making that attempt.

    0+0=0 then you say..."Well, sometimes that is not true." Prove it, show me the verse where anti-matter won the day.


    Math is not a natural science, thus the rules that govern it are different to the ones governing the natural sciences, for example, there are such things as mathematical proofs. Who here, other than yourself, has said that "sometimes 0+0=0 is not true"? Who here, other than yourself, has suggested anything about multi-verses?


    0+0=0, always.
    But 2+2 = 4 in Z, yet 2 + 2 = 0 in Z4. I am willing to bet William Rothamel knows what I mean.

    Indeed, math is different from the natural sciences. As I said, though, the natural sciences use our tools.

    Grades submitted after a hectic 1.6 weeks. I am back.
    Thankfully, only two people chose to PM me during that timeframe, and they were moderators.

    I hope one of them does not mind my paraphrasing something he said, particularly since he also posted the same idea publicly here in the thread: a lot of what we've been reading is junk, repetitive, and two people trashing each other. I was essentially asked privately if I would take a little more control of my own thread.

    The things I had to get done would not allow that, for one, plus ... ha ha ... it would violate free will. ;)

    But, now that I am back, give me some a few hours, and maybe I can summarize what I believe are the good points coming from either side.
    4336) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1229866)
    Posted 10 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will infighting tear the 1% apart? http://www.forbes.com/sites/michelinemaynard/2012/05/08/mitt-romney-takes-credit-for-the-auto-bailout-say-what/.
    4337) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1225762)
    Posted 1 May 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Atheism may be more socially acceptable in Europe, but I find that here on this side of the pond, Atheism is still largely discriminated against:

    Legal and social discrimination against atheists in some places may lead some to deny or conceal their atheism due to fears of persecution. A 2006 study by researchers at the University of Minnesota involving a poll of 2,000 households in the United States found atheists to be the most distrusted of minorities, more so than Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians, and other groups. Many of the respondents associated atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, and elitism. However, the same study also reported that, “The researchers also found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related not only to personal religiosity, but also to one’s exposure to diversity, education and political orientation—with more educated, East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their Midwestern counterparts.”


    Maybe I just need to move to the east or west coast?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists


    [Edit] I would also like it to be said that I have no problem with people choosing to have faith in the absence of observable evidence. Many of my friends are still quite religious (and a few of them have espoused the same ignorance that has been said here), but I generally know that, individually, religious people are very nice, forgiving, decent people. I think they choose to be, and aren't that way because their religion makes them so.


    Every Sunday morning I didn't go to church, neighbors called police on me. In two years, the only Sunday morning they didn't call was one Easter morning.

    Several times, the coffee shop that opened at 9 a.m. on a Sunday was raided, to harass poor students studying and teachers grading.
    4338) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1225438)
    Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, at least people started talking about when we first have signs, minimal or not, that humanity thought of an afterlife.

    Now, please look at the rest of the paragraph in my post. Why might it be relevant?

    Hint: this one could score a point for the believers.

    And another hint: discussing the "why eyes at all" could score a point for the non-believers.
    4339) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1225195)
    Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regarding using fear to control: I do not believe anyone took much of a look at my question regarding when spiritual/religious thinking began. Was it before the crossing of the Bering Strait? Had it spread to the people that made the crossing? Did the crossers make the trip in a large group, with a shaman reminding them of things and, perhaps, seeking to control them? If not, did they cross in small groups, family units? If so, who was the one seeking to control, if anyone? Or, would it be reasonable to assume the family units dropped religion/spirituality during the crossing, only to spontaneously begin believing in things again some time after the trip was complete? (I think this last is unlikely.)


    I don't see why it matters.


    Keep thinking about it.

    And in the meantime, try also addressing some points we can agree on, such as, say, senses and organs.
    4340) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1225172)
    Posted 30 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID -- the moderator has absolute knowledge, he calls it spamming, therefore it is -- you must understand the approach <smile>.

    As to toning down the debate -- well from what I've seen this remains a 'not debate' with folks assiduously talking past one another with frankly no inclination to accept (on faith) the view of the others *faith* as providing *proof*. There is precious little science here -- at least from the ID view -- it is all faith.

    3+ Posts in a ROW is called SPAMMING. Please tone things down to a more controlled DEBATE!.

    Where is that called spamming? I have read the rules for a second time.
    And why am I being the only one called out on this when there are others as well who have done the same thing?


    Agreed, Barry.

    Regarding whether some posts have been spam: Jim, I think moderators should look at the time between posts. Three posts in a row, but if it took an hour or more (for example) to make those separate posts, might not be worth calling spam. Short responses made in a matter of seconds to a few minutes may qualify.

    Regarding "weasel words" and the like: I think even people who agree with you or have several points of agreement can recognize when the manner in which those points are expressed is lacking.

    Regarding using fear to control: I do not believe anyone took much of a look at my question regarding when spiritual/religious thinking began. Was it before the crossing of the Bering Strait? Had it spread to the people that made the crossing? Did the crossers make the trip in a large group, with a shaman reminding them of things and, perhaps, seeking to control them? If not, did they cross in small groups, family units? If so, who was the one seeking to control, if anyone? Or, would it be reasonable to assume the family units dropped religion/spirituality during the crossing, only to spontaneously begin believing in things again some time after the trip was complete? (I think this last is unlikely.)

    (Edit: I believe it was ID that said something along the lines of religious thinking beginning when we began to bury our dead. WHat about the fact that a decaying body stinks and draws predators/scavengers?)

    Regarding cephalopod eyes: again, no one addressed my point? If "designed", why even have such similiarity in senses and organs across a large number species? Why not be imaginative and approach it many different ways?
    4341) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1225120)
    Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, wait. If you understand a double-blind study, and everyone in the world is supposed to be a subject, then who is collecting the data? Ha ha!


    Fine with me. Please explain the evidenciary basis for the assertion religion is beneficial society. One does hope against all hope and knows one will be disappointed to learn there is no basis other than the apocalyptic ravings of believers.


    Even from what little I've posted recently, an intelligent person can get some feel for where I stand, and here you are blathering about a position you think I have taken.

    Unless you meant to respond to someone else's post?

    Because my post that you are quoting was regarding that apparently someone in here has a misunderstanding of what a double-blind study entails. There can be no double-blind study if everyone on Earth is supposed to be a subject. Your blathering is in no way a response to that point.

    (Furthermore, you could not get everyone to participate in a study on prayer, as obviously some do not believe in it and so would not pray, Or deliberately masquerade as praying. Or pray for something else. Of course, statisticians and those that use statistics know they have to consider honesty of subjects in certain things.)
    4342) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1224999)
    Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, how about I suggest we move this discussion along to something more "down to earth" but still based on the topic of this thread? How about we discuss the effect(s) on society with religion and with out religion?


    That is most certainly within the topics I wanted discussed here.

    Question: With out a (super majority of the world's) belief in a higher authority than man, what do you think would happen to society?


    I suspect we know how this will be answered.

    Now how about we propose a double-blind study on this.

    Oh, wait. If you understand a double-blind study, and everyone in the world is supposed to be a subject, then who is collecting the data? Ha ha!
    4343) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1224942)
    Posted 29 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [I asked you if you believed in absolutes.

    Ummm, no, that was Guy's question?
    Speed limits and all that good stuff.
    4344) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1224201)
    Posted 28 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How the hell can somebody get to university to study physics without knowing calculus. I'm gobsmacked.

    There has been calculuse-based vs. algebra-based physics for at least 27 years.
    Those only going so far can do the algebra-based physics if they like.
    Someone that majors in it will be better off already knowing calculus (though I know from experience 1 year high school calculus is not as good as the first two semesters of univerity calculus). But, the major can also learn the calculus in their first year of college.
    4345) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1224052)
    Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the Socratic method of debate, how can we achieve anything without first identifying commonly held truths that shape our opinion?


    So religion is then in your eyes a commonly held truth?


    That is clearly not what Guy was saying.
    4346) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1223911)
    Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As Sarge is telling you, at times logic [weaker of science] and math flow as one.

    I make no claims that logic is weak. In my posts, in thar respect, I am countering you when you claimed that earlier.
    4347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : John Clark (Message 1223811)
    Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sheila went to see John today and although still quite ill, he is better than he was and has been sitting in a chair by the bed. They are talking of transferring him to a specialist renal unit at Leicester to assess what future treatment he needs. Sheila will see him next on Saturday. All your good wishes have been passed on.


    TY Chris for letting us know.
    4348) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1223801)
    Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I must admit I'm struggling a little in following you here. While it certainly seems to be the case that for science it is axiomatic that the natural is:

    1) real
    2) measurable (at least to some extent)


    I am talking about the axioms of mathematics.
    Science uses math, so implicitly or explicitly is bound by the same axiomatic approach.
    4349) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1223794)
    Posted 27 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People who point out the margins and limits of science seem to only do so in an effort to somehow vilify science as a whole, so they can continue to justify their beliefs (usually in spirituality) as being just as valid as evidence based science.


    Yet you have no evidence that I have forwarded such beliefs, attempted to vilify science or tried to suggest something is as valid as evidence-based science.
    I have provided evidence of how math (and so science) proceed.

    Trying to vilify science in my position would be incredibly stupid.

    BTW, try replacing in one of your previous posts "mathematician" with "statistician".
    4350) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1223662)
    Posted 26 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Blank :)], I didn't say you had said that, but it came up in previous discussions. I believe it was in Qui-Gon's Religious Thread 8 or so. Someone else did believe that. My point, then, as now, is that science has limits, it has limits in what it can do to help us decide this overall question, and we have limits on our understandings of science ... and math.

    Yes, Guy, there is chance in science, because it employs statistics. Unless you refer to social sciences when they go the route of qualitative research, along the lines of ethnographies.

    Bobby, I think it also intellectually dishonest when people are blind to the fact that mathematics, and therefore science, is built on a small set of undefined terms and axioms (unproven statements). You are not one of those people, but these people do exist and think they can use science as a hammer to the head. Gary's post about simulations is an interesting and good one, but I am really not interested, myself, in going down the nihilistic road. I choose a different route to discuss our uses of the terms faith, proof, etc. ... . (or should I type ect ect ect?)

    I am pretty much in agreement with your comment, "that the faithful have no scientifically valid method for disproving, let alone proving, the basis of their beliefs, whereas for a scientific theory to be accepted it must be falsifiable"

    However, following this, and on one of IDs IDs common themes ... there was an article in Discover magazine within the past few years regarding randomness.

    I have already stated I believe in randomness, and what it means: a random event is an event whose outcome we cannot predict in advance.

    The article dealt with a small group that believes that this is because we simply do not have all the information, but perhaps eventually we'd be able to get all the necessary measurements of variables in advance.

    I found the theory weak, but I seem to recall they were discussing ways they might test things.
    4351) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1223452)
    Posted 26 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Faith: n.
    1. Belief that is not based on proof.


    And this is something I have wanted to expound upon (again). However, you may have to wait as much as 1.5 weeks before I can do so.

    I discussed this with "Chuck" about 5.5 years ago.

    Short version, and from what I understand of Bobby, he should be able to comfirm this.

    Mathematics does not prove everything.
    Math uses an axiomatic system. There is a small number of undefined terms and axioms (aka postulates).
    Science relies on math. It has been called both the Queen of the Sciences and the sciences' Handmaiden.
    Thus, use our tools, you implicitly or explicitly are also bound by the fact that we have made a small number of assumptions.
    Euclid realized trying to define all terms and prove all statements leads to circular reasoning. He battled the Sophists, who always played the Devil's advocate and employed circular reasoning, and I believe that is where we get the term sophistry from.
    Math uses logic. Some logicians have tried to root math in logic. Others have tried to root logic in math.
    We also have Godel's incompleteness theorem, which is to have proved that not all statements can be proved or disproved: there will always remain mathematical statements for which there is no proof or counterexample. (Then again, I have not read Godel's proof, so ... ?)
    Again, from what I understand of Bobby's background, he should be able to confirm the use of axiomatic systems and the axiomatic approach.
    So, if we are going to accept "faith" as having one acceptable meaning as "belief that is not based on proof", I still say we have a problem. Unless we can somehow come to consensus on what "belief" means, without going in a circle?
    This is not meant as completely supporting or rejecting the points made by the poster with no screen name showing but I know who it is, nor to completely support or reject points made by ID.
    It is meant, as I have meant to do other times, to clarify mathematics, and to state it certainly has an implication for science.
    You do not need to have faith in me. You can check these facts for yourself.
    4352) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222941)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Folks, I think I figured it out, ID is really a cleverly conceived and implemented AI program. Think about it, a fixed position, extensive quoting and links, and by and large polite.

    I'm sorry, Dave, but I can't do that. :)
    4353) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222625)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But it does bring up a good question. In this day and age of "enlightenment" (or so I'd like to believe), does religion cause more harm than good?


    I personally do not have an answer for you.
    I can look to family members and friends that continue to call themselves Christians. I cannot easily see them directly causing someone harm.
    A few of them, how that guides them to vote, maybe indirectly? ;)
    4354) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222624)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That said, I can see value in people having spiritual or religious beliefs to the point it helps guide them. When those beliefs tell them to convert others or eliminate others.. I have a problem with them.


    I think most or all of us here also subscribe to that.
    Though I have a problem with ascribing that mentality to an entire religion if in fact it is only demonstrated by a subset of that religion.
    4355) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222616)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And lets no forget someone dosn't like my spelling or sentence structure. Ad hominem, ad nauseam! Man, get in a hurry and.............


    No, you confuse pointing out errors with attacks, and error pointing out or attacks on an arguments as attacks against a person.
    My spelling and grammar, as other posts will show, is not perfect either, but I do my best.
    4356) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222613)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I also suspect that others here may not require belief in a supernatural being as a precursor to moral behavior.

    Let us, for sake of simplicity, accept that living a moral life need not come only from a belief in a supernatural being.
    However, what does history show about how codes for living in peace with our fellow humans came into being. Were they not often tied to religion?


    as were many genocides committed in their name. Convert or die has sadly not been uncommon through history. I am quite grateful not to live in such a society, with politics and religion as seperate as possible. Unfortunately, it creeps into politics as well.


    This is an oft brought up issue: the "evils" committed in "religion's" name.
    I have agreed with the fact that this has happened, many times. That does not invalidate my last paragraph.

    Another thing that has been suggested in past discussions is that one person cooks up religion to gain control over a group. While we can point to recent/current instances, such as the Heaven's Gate Cult of the late 90s, what evidence is there for that in the origins of religious/spiritual thinking, if any?

    Just how far back was it when humans began to worship something? Now that is something we can use the number 6000 for-it's been at least 6000 years. What if it is 10000-30000? If so, then who was the person seeking to maintain control for, say, the people who were to become Native Americans as they crossed the Bering Strait Land Bridge? Did religious/spiritual thinking already exist? Did this include that group? Did they cross in large groups, with a shamanic type figure already in place, with them, or at various times in small groups, family units? If the latter, who in that group was seeking control? If religion/spirituality is at least that old, it seems a strange idea that they would not have it before the crossings. If they had these thoughts, I assume they carried them with them, rather than abandoned them, only to spontaneously at some points after the crossings again start having religious/spiritual thinking again.
    4357) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1222608)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    personal opinion.. I for one would like to see us back to current events, with an eye on "what WERE they thinking?!?!?"


    OK, Soft, what's personally had you scratching your head from national or world news?
    4358) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222522)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I also suspect that others here may not require belief in a supernatural being as a precursor to moral behavior.

    Let us, for sake of simplicity, accept that living a moral life need not come only from a belief in a supernatural being.
    However, what does history show about how codes for living in peace with our fellow humans came into being. Were they not often tied to religion?
    4359) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222501)
    Posted 24 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But I've pretty much stated my beliefs to that person, and I've noted his. At this point I really don't have anything left to say on the subjects he is arguing for.


    Hopefully the thread will evolve. I was actually planning to make such a thread a few weeks ago when I saw how some people responded to a thread of msattler's.
    4360) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222406)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Causation is fiendishly difficult to prove.

    For example, we do not understand how the many variables of a "systems model" interact with one another through the passage of time. The millions of variables at work during a summer storm cannot be reconstructed in a systems model for weather, the weather man is 50% wrong, all the time, and still has a job. Those constructing systems models in an attempt to prove the causes of global warming do not get the desired result---and then mess and mess with the math in an effort to force the preordained results. One can't prove causation with a systems model, but you can create an illusion [magic] of proof with a rigged model. Einstein's "cosmological constant" was a plug figure — to make the chalk formulas on his blackboard work. Why do the scientists cheat? They are desperate. Their honor and job depends on finding a model that works---but they are ticked because they cannot prove 'causation' with the model of a closed system. We make a system like daisyworld and look at it from the outside in. This is a step in the right direction but not a true cause, it is however a start.

    Think for a time that both man and nature are open systems within the universe. The God partical is the way the Designer keeps tabs on us. We see the Designer can intervene in the creation and suspend the natural laws at will — an event we call a miracle. The guiding Hand of Design, the leap of Faith in evolution, the Cause of change.


    True consciousness is impossible in a closed system. There must be an observer from outside a system in order for there to be a consciousness of the system itself. Any function designed for conscious self-observation cannot operate within a closed system because whatever was observed would be processed, conditioned, corrupted, and misconstrued by the system, like looking at a atom or blackhole. That is why those who love themselves first and only, are blind about themselves. When they look at 'self', it is not observation, it is self-projection. The observation function must be able to detach itself from the system.

    When China or the old USSR treats man as a closed system, it robs him of the freedom and crushes his humanity. We cannot be fully as human beings without a measure of freedom. To the founders of the USA, this was a "self-evident" truth. The American Constitutional Republic has plenty of room for freedom because it is an open system. China has no room for freedom because they are a closed system.

    More later....


    I thought this was a cut and paste until I saw "partical" instead of "particle" and "China have" instead "China has" or "The Chinese have".

    Furthermore, China is not closed. They have the hands on a large amount of our debt. Plus, ever heard of HSBC Bank?
    4361) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222402)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As none of your summarizations in anyway clearly connects it to what I posted, the definition of a random event, I see no reason to follow your links.

    Thats it, stick your fingers in your ears and say...."la, la, la, la, la, Ad nauseam.


    You might think that is what is happening, but you'd be wrong.

    This thread was not created solely for you and for people to debate with you.
    The topic comes up a number of times. There used to be a series of "Religion Thread #n".

    You might also suspect I am atheist. You'd be wrong. I am agnostic who was raised Lutheran, with two family members that work in churches. I posted about this before you came along.

    You might think I am attacking you. You'd be wrong. I am trying to understand you, across your large number of posts for such a newly arrived member. And I have not yet had a chance to tell you or others not yet familiar with my current beliefs. THat is because you and your detractors are so intent on having the last word and have posted a large amount in a short amount of time, particularly for those of us who work 6 or 7 days a week for a supposedly 5 day a week job.

    Right now, it is indeed you I have the most disagreements with. That is not to say I agree with all other posts in here or the other thread that come from your detractors. But because you have posted the most, and you say things I know are wrong, I point these out. That attacks the facts, not you.

    I was going to post about The Drake Equation, but I suspect Bobby has now made the point.

    1) Did you want us to comment on the validity of the equation?
    2) Did you want us to check your arithmetic, or the arithmetic you cut and paste?

    I suspect neither is the case.

    I noted a number less than 1 at the end of your post. So, I take it, to you, this means we beat the odds and that must be because of God. ???

    Well, maybe.

    Or, since none of the factors was 0, the answer had to be non-zero. And since there cannot be a fraction of an intelligent civilization surviving beyond a certain time of "infancy", and the answer is not 0, then we must round a number between 0 and 1 up to 1.

    On the other hand, with 15-17 years of increasing evidence for exoplanets, and now maybe super "Earths", the estimate should start to go up.

    As Bobby said, though, these are estimates.

    So, be clear. What part did you want a comment on? The equation itself, the arithmetic, the estimates, or the low final answer your estimates lead to?
    4362) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222362)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    random mutations

    Why is it called random? As I have said, remove chance and it's design.


    It's "random", because some of those first cells of life on earth turned into what we evolved from, and the rest turned into everything else. Randomly.


    Yes, what you call---Randomly.

    I do not. If one random event fits into another which fits into another, ect, ect, ect, random isn't a word that we can use anymore.


    Let's not beat around the bush.
    A "random event" is an event with an outcome that "cannot be predicted in advance". Plain and simple.
    If you can predict everything in advance, well, please prove it by going out and raking in some big lottery earnings and publicly announcing it, not only here but also on television. Then we will accept chance doesn't exist. (Call me "Thomas", ok? [smile]

    On the other hand, despite knowing "Dull" will accuse me of "parsing words", if you wish to say, "We humans cannot predict some things in advance, simply because we lack certain pieces of information", well, you are welcome to do so, but don't count on everyone buying that approach. In the past 1-2 years, there was an article in Discover magazine about precisely the idea. I found it an unsatisfactory article. I do not recall what was said about attempts, if any, to test this hypothesis.


    I posted about daisyworld.

    Evolution without Natural Selection: Further ... - Mathematics
    Department of Mathematics, King's College,. Strand, London WC2R 2LS, England. Journal of Theoretical Biology 166 (1994)
    www.mth.kcl.ac.uk/staff/pt_saunders/gaiajtb.pdf

    Emergent patterns in space and time from daisyworld
    4Department of Mathematics, University of York, York YO10 5DD, UK
    rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/368/1910/161.full.

    Philosophical implications of the Gaia Theory
    Using sunlight and water and nutrient minerals to grow and change. ... Lovelock offered The Daisyworld model as mathematical evidence to refute most of these ...
    www.bibliotecapleyades.net/gaia/esp_gaia07.htm

    I go pop-ups but nevertheless If I have to do homework to keep up with you I dang well expect the same from you!


    As none of your summarizations in anyway clearly connects it to what I posted, the definition of a random event, I see no reason to follow your links.
    4363) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222359)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who removed 5 atoms?


    What direct evidence do you have that suggests there is a "who"? If you have no evidence, then that is "faith" and should not be taught in public schools.


    I have addressed this question. Remove chance.

    I have addressed this question in another way too, show me a atom, show me a blackhole. In just the same way you believe in both I believe in a God/Designer.

    Think harder....


    I have demonstrated to you what chance is. Your definition is clearly at odds with the real definition. As for "work harder"? Ummm ... to use your words, "have you not read"? Seems you and a few others have a lot of free time on your hands.
    4364) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222340)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *snip*
    What is beauty? ;-]


    It is in the eye of the beer holder. Again, perception is reality.


    Ahhh, the old beer glasses trick.

    God does not make junk.


    Appendix, anyone?
    4365) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222337)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Proof in this case is somewhat circumstantial. All available evidence indicates that our Universe is 13.75 billion or so years old. There are many different measurements that have lead scientists to believe this,

    Ok so far.

    though, just as with Gary's simulator thought experiment, it is possible (though outside scientific consideration) that the Universe was created a fraction of a second ago with all the elements set up to make it appear it's age coincides with the best approximation of science.

    Um ... sorry, I'll leave you out on your limb there. Think you might be a bit lonely.



    It's Gary's limb.
    Gary stated a hypothetical situation.
    Bobby simply said something along the lines of, "Now, if instead, reality really fits Gary's hypothetical situation, then ...".
    And I do not think Gary nor Bobby believes the hypothesis, but they are saying we have no way of testing it, to prove or refute it.
    4366) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222303)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    quick note on evolution (darwin as prophet is not in the curriculum)

    Although the scientific evidence that evolution has occurred many times over,
    this neither proves nor disproves the "Divine" theory. It does however disprove the universe is less than 10,000 years old.


    Weather it's being said out loud to the student matters not.

    It's a game of chance. I do accept very large parts of Darwin as true and correct[the book he wrote]. It's what was done with his work after that I object to.


    Social Darwinism and other misinterpretations to outright deliberate misconstruations have nothing to do with the part about random selection.
    4367) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222302)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    random mutations

    Why is it called random? As I have said, remove chance and it's design.

    So your God decides when each and every radioactive atom undergoes decay, what direction the decay products travel, when chemical bonds form and break, etc. That seems a bit much for me. It also removes free will as his decisions on the chemical bonds prevent you from doing anything except what he divines. So if you sin, it is God who made you sin as he controls your body.


    The soul has freewill. The soul commands the body. We have freewill over what we have freewill over. You don't believe in the soul?


    Gary believes his argument means, with no chance, God decides all, so you have no freewill. Re-read what he said. He said nothing one way or the other about belief in a soul.
    4368) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222301)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is only String Theory used in schools and called correct? The list of why's is very long if we say who is correct... Man?

    No one has called String Theory correct. Not anyone that knows even a little about it. The TV character "Leonard" got it right, "It's just a beautiful internally consistent theory" that has not been proven yet by any means. Via Leonard, even non-science people will have some inkling of where things stand on string theory so far.
    4369) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222300)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    random mutations

    Why is it called random? As I have said, remove chance and it's design.


    It's "random", because some of those first cells of life on earth turned into what we evolved from, and the rest turned into everything else. Randomly.


    Yes, what you call---Randomly.

    I do not. If one random event fits into another which fits into another, ect, ect, ect, random isn't a word that we can use anymore.


    Let's not beat around the bush.
    A "random event" is an event with an outcome that "cannot be predicted in advance". Plain and simple.
    If you can predict everything in advance, well, please prove it by going out and raking in some big lottery earnings and publicly announcing it, not only here but also on television. Then we will accept chance doesn't exist. (Call me "Thomas", ok? [smile]

    On the other hand, despite knowing "Dull" will accuse me of "parsing words", if you wish to say, "We humans cannot predict some things in advance, simply because we lack certain pieces of information", well, you are welcome to do so, but don't count on everyone buying that approach. In the past 1-2 years, there was an article in Discover magazine about precisely the idea. I found it an unsatisfactory article. I do not recall what was said about attempts, if any, to test this hypothesis.
    4370) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222055)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there *any* common point from which we can start?


    Forget about it. The Dem/Libs and other Compromise Types also only want it Their Way or The Highway. Although they try to seem not.

    The Academic Educated Types with All Their Degrees and/or Vast Lifetime Self-Education are Worse. These Types Love to use their Down Time to Play With The Lesser Of Us for Their Amusement. Barely Hidden Patronizations while they try to Keep Within The Community Spirit.

    Anyways, GOD Is The Creator. GOD being However One Might Think Things Got Created in the First Place.

    Poor Darwin. I saw a Wonderful Movie made in 2009 about His Creation. It dealt a lot about his relationship with his Believer Wife and Death of his Daughter and how these Conflicts held back his writing/publishing of The Book. Movie is called Creation.

    CreativeDeistNOTDullNando


    "Dull" ... . Almost everyone ignores you. Though they used to post in your threads, they now steer more and more clear of you. Though I sometimes respond to you a bit harshly or in kind (using your kind of humor), you continue in your assumptions, over-generalizations and insults. You test even my patience. If you came here to discuss, then join the human race and speak with the rest of us. If you came to spew assumptions and over-generalizations, and blather, get yourself a talk show to compete with Rush, or a late night tv comedy show like Conan, Colbert, Maddow or Huckabee. :) Here, it's really wearing thin and soon all you'll hear in response to you is crickets. (Of course, crickets do sound nice ... maybe you can teach them to play violins?)
    4371) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1222052)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Accusing me of ad hominem attacks. Hardly, Since he decided to bombard us with his facts the only real way to respond was to break it down and respond to each.


    Sorry, Skil, but from time to time, some of your responses to people are some of the harshest, whether you intend them to be or not. If not ad homs, I think they may come close. Now in too tired mode and going to bed soon, but if I really have to, I can track some down and PM to you.
    That said, none of us are perfect posters, and so I'm not claiming perfection, either.

    I watched a wonderful show today on Tectonics in North Africa and the Europe. Very interesting to learn that Italy sits on the African Plate. the Northern border of Italy to Switzerland is where the 2 continents have met. These made some interesting geographic changes to the British Isles. Namely, tossing the bedrock on edge or at extreme angles in Southern England/Wales. Hardly something that happens in a day much less a day 6000 years ago.


    I think you can drop the 6000 year old thing. Our poster ID does not accept it, if I read (among all these posts correctly)), and I know some creationists who do not go by it. They did not even know of the claim, believe it or not, nor, stranger still, how the claim came to be made.
    4372) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1221966)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No problem, thanks Sarge. Sorry for hijacking your thread.

    I have not even had a chance to read everything posted there today.
    4373) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1221939)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, the head scratchers thread was meant for things in current news, not science and religion (though those can certainly affect what is in current news and how we perceive these events).
    For the solely science/religion stuff, I suggest The Great Debate (religion).
    4374) Message boards : Politics : The Great Debate (religion) (Message 1221936)
    Posted 23 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is needed, but I am, as usual, too tired or too busy to elaborate my own views at this moment.
    4375) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1221505)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IIRC, simply put, Darwin's goal was to explain the similarity and the diversity amongst Earth's life forms.
    Why is a whale skeleton so much like ours?
    I seemed, about 20 years ago, to score some points with a fan of Star Trek but conservative, fundamentalist Christian friend of mine that I'd grown up with (even went to the same church, so how he became fundamentalist, I am still not sure of), when I said something along the following: so, God's omnipotent, right? Why do most lifeforms on Earth have eyes, then? He could have created a different sense, and a different sensory organ, to do a different job, or a better job, right? I'm sure He's imaginative enough, right? So, if God exists, if he wanted to let evolution do some work for him, and that led to most lifeforms having eyes, that's Hio way and His business.
    Sadly, I think I was only awarded temporary points. He remains staunchly fundamentalist, and I ... .
    4376) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1221497)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I my own defence about being off way off topic. Rick Santorum [topic in this thread] is a backer of Intelligent Design.

    I await judgement. I'll stop till I hear from Sarge and a moderator.


    I've been working. The joys of a 5 day a week job that you really work all 7, or at least 6, days a week.

    Regarding Santorum, I'm curious about how you'd respond, or anyone else, regarding my post about abortion.
    And while I have not formulated my post yet, I found the response to the questions about murder, in general, and in relation to current events, to be dodgy.
    4377) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1221266)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One wonders, has I.D. not met the university math professors that go to Christian churches?
    Or does he choose to ignore them? Pretend they do not exist.
    Has he never walked the halls, past the office of graduate students, to find at certain times of day, the Islamic graduate students exercise their faith, praying in the direction of Mecca?
    Does he not know they do not exist? Or does he ignore them, because it goes against his point?
    Moreover, the head scratcher is, for the most part, what do his posts have to do with the Head Scratcher thread?
    4378) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220929)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have argued against abortion with the words you have posted. How can we ensure liberty and the pursuit of happiness if we take the life before the child has even drawn it's first breath?


    I cannot ever recall hearing someone say he or she is "pro-abortion". It is pro-life versus pro-choice.
    And I am willing to bet most/all here would not want to be involved in such a hard personal decision. My apologies to anyone who has had to be partof such a decision.
    But here's the head scratcher ... .

    Why are the adamantly pro-lifers so concerned with the choices others make?
    Do you think God is going to rain down His wrath on us because we have not prevented others from making these decisions?
    Is he going to d@mn us? D%mn America?

    Well, no, that can't be, because there sure was an uproar when Reverend Wright suggested that's what God would do, rather than bless this country.

    Scratch ...
    scratch ...
    scratch?
    4379) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220921)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this a test of current events?


    SargeNOTagent thinks some of The Right Wing Element Here might bite and give This Stale Thread some New Life.

    Nope. Not gunna happen.

    Time to put This Thread To Bed. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    SleepingTightAndRightDullNando


    Awww, poor Dull, upset this is the most posted in thread the last few days, despite my barely being around 1.5 weeks?
    Awww, poor Dull, I thought you were starting to get it: there are NO "wings". They created these "sides" to deceive you.
    4380) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220891)
    Posted 21 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is absolutely no deflection.
    SO, let us ask, based on the evidence you've heard so far, what you think about the actions of George Zimmerman?


    I don't have any evidence. What I have heard is TV News, this is not always called fact or evidence. Since I don't have much nor do I know the actions of Mr. Zimmerman.

    Is this a test of current events?



    George Zimmerman took the life of Trayvon Martin. All else aside, does this fit your definition of murder?
    4381) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220777)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obama IMO is the lesser of two evils, and on that alone he will get my vote. Not because I love Obama, but because I really wouldn't love the other option.

    Please vote for a third party. It is the only way to get better choices.

    If we consistently had a strong candidate from a third (or more) party/parties, we could consider that a good way of getting better options. To my knowledge, in my lifetime, Perot is the ONLY third candidate who made any appreciable dent. Though in the electoral college, it was abysmal for him, the percentage of the popular vote he got was decent: near 20%, correct?

    In other words, if we had this happen a few times in a row, more people would consider third parties, and we could truly get some other/better choices.
    4382) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220669)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...What is an Absolute Truth? Is there not a thing called Universal Truth? Does science look for such things as Absloute Truth?


    ....ummm I though that was the very definition of science. Maybe I'm mistaken.

    Politics is not "science" (it's more about discussion and decision), we have science forums here however this one is "politics".


    Politics is a Social Science, and like the other Social Sciences, can employ some of the methods developed to assist the Natural Sciences, that is it can be more than discussion and decision making. Personally I believe evidence based policy making is likely to have a greater chance of success for desirable outcomes than opinion based decision making.


    There is also research into decision making.
    4383) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220664)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is absolutely no deflection.
    SO, let us ask, based on the evidence you've heard so far, what you think about the actions of George Zimmerman?
    4384) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220658)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On this rock it's 32.2 feet per/per.

    We draw our law from truths that we have found over time from our Faith.



    I have faith that at my elevation, I can jog longer, jump higher, and sing as nearly as low as Johnny Cash and nearly as high as Michael Jackson, so, thank you, gravity, for varying. :)
    4385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Greg Ham - Flautist with Men at work (Message 1220502)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "It's a Mistake" was my favorite.
    4386) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220498)
    Posted 20 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To all,

    What is an Absolute Truth? Is there not a thing called Universal Truth? Does science look for such things as Absloute Truth? Gravity works at 32 feet per second/per second ect, ect ,ect, is that not an Universal Truth? By the way, I accept that gravity is not a pulling force for all you physics geeks, and yes, 32.2 feet per/per/per.


    I wrote a paper during my junior year of undergrad on truths with a capital t versus lowercase. I stated then I did believe there are some absolute truths. But not all are. In any case ... .

    We have a pretty sharp crowd here (and, yes, I include people I have disagreements with in that group if there is no evidence to the contrary besides differences of opinion and interpretation), and when something is flat out wrong, we call people out on it. (Sometimes the words are sharp, too.) So, when you want to make a point, consider carefully what you are using to back it up.

    32.2 feet per square second (or 9.81 meters per square second) is NOT an absolute truth. Those numbers refer to acceleration due to gravity in an ideal situation (consider one of Guy's recent posts) near Earth's surface. It decreases, for example, at higher elevations.

    On Mars, I find it to be around 3.7 meters per second squared.

    Hence, we have strong evidence acceleration due to gravity is not universal.
    Now, if you meant to discuss whether gravity itself is universal ... ?
    4387) Message boards : Politics : George Washington named Britain's greatest ever foe (Message 1220391)
    Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9204961/George-Washington-named-Britains-greatest-ever-foe.html

    So as you see after a few hundred years we can recognise the eforts of our cousins across the pond.

    Wonder what the views will be in another 300 years of the 20th/21st century leaders.


    I have not followed the link. By any chance, was it meant as "one of our most worthy opponents?
    4388) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220196)
    Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Example the Dept. of Education. It has given us no child left behind. This dept. is also unconstitutional. [smile]

    Both create huge bureaucracies at the federal level. Both belong within the state. Id argue that Education needs to be at the county level, the competition
    would soon breed excellent schools.


    The Constitution cedes control of education to the states and localities. Again, who was it that overreached here?
    4389) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220195)
    Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Example the Dept. of Education. It has given us no child left behind. This dept. is also unconstitutional. [smile]


    Courtesy former librarian LAURA BUSH.
    4390) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1220194)
    Posted 19 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy Navarro,

    The federalist papers are a fine place to start. It is written in Old English with many now extinct English words but nevertheless the intent of the document is still there.


    Bxxxy! WRONG!!! Even Shakespeare was not writing in "Old English". IIRC, many of Shakespeare's were written in the early 1600s, in MIDDLE English. By 176-200 years later, we were already using Modern English. Certain phrases may be a bit archaic now, when we look at writings from 1776-1800, and you have to realize that big curvy looking B thing is really a double S (showing the Germanic influence on English), but it can most certainly be read. This is true despite some archaic phrasing and terms, and beginnings of legalese.
    4391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's with the age gap around here? (Message 1220056)
    Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    ...and Coke.


    I have argued against ... Captain Morgan and Coke ... with the words you have posted.
    4392) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1219908)
    Posted 18 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, now we hear that, in part of the videos filmed during the waste of our $800,000 in taxpayer money, that Obama's Clean Energy Plan is mocked. That would make the money wasters, what ... ? Clearly, they can't be fiscal conservatives, can they? ;)

    It makes them government employees, the ones who are in the know about the efficiencies of building bureaucracies.

    Let's cut to the chase. This is a great example regarding what may be the fundamental source of political disagreements.
    The debate is over whether a collective can make rational decisions in the interest of all more often/netter, or whether an individual can act rationally, making good decisions for himself or herself, while not harming others.
    I'm sure federal employees include both those that vote Republican and those that vote Democrat.
    Clearly, the GSA spending scandal is an example of a group not being able to make rational decisions.
    But it also an example of individuals not being able to make rational decisions, either.
    Those of the Democratic persuasion that work at the GSA, we should think, would not have allowed such things to happen/continue, because it goes against their implicit or explicit belief in collective rationality. So, on an individual level, their choices were also not rational.
    Those of the Republican persuasion that work at the GSA (particularly those that believe themselves to be fiscal conservatives), we should think, would not have allowed such things to happen/continue, because of the waste of money. By allowing this to happen, continue, and taking part in it, their choices indicate a willingness to act against their beliefs. Their choices were not rational.
    I think we should view this as a blow to the beliefs of both the left and the right: neither individuals or collectives can act rationally 100% of the time.
    4393) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1219355)
    Posted 16 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hilary swilling beer abd dabcing? At 62? For shame!
    4394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello... (Message 1218152)
    Posted 14 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pardon me, is this the thread where all SETImens declared their love for BenzeneK?
    4395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 23 things every adult knows (Message 1216945)
    Posted 11 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phone?
    4396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello... (Message 1216943)
    Posted 11 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do so love living in Canada, now. Pay for professors is so much better, too. ;)
    4397) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216672)
    Posted 11 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, now we hear that, in part of the videos filmed during the waste of our $800,000 in taxpayer money, that Obama's Clean Energy Plan is mocked. That would make the money wasters, what ... ? Clearly, they can't be fiscal conservatives, can they? ;)
    4398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216492)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4399) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216487)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are probably right, though the number of deaths one could attribute to Nazism, Facism and Communism might make things be a bit closer. Also, you have ethnic cleansing in Africa with little of God in the middle of things.



    I believe I'm correct in saying that more people have been killed in the name of "God" than in all other conflicts combined. Makes a statement about strict observance vs. live and let live.




    Nazism had some weird mix of religion in it.
    4400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216473)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Click for video.
    I am still in the process of narrowing down names.
    I received many suggestions from my class for pre-service elementary teachers.
    I am down to the following:

    Mu (because I also teach statistics and one of my students is in both classes; Mu stands for population mean or average, and there is obvious play on the word specific to cats).
    Kiva ("protected").
    Ying.
    Penny (from the Big Bang Theory)
    Ms. Bigglesworth (referencing the Austin Powers movies).

    So maybe something like Ms. Kiva Mu-penny Bigglesworth? :)
    4401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216465)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    looks siamese.. they look really pretty but the sound they make.... Ooooo.


    I say at least part Siamese.
    4402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216435)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pretty cat, I see Yer cat has a rat play toy already, still very pretty.


    That's so she can do a little hunting while I am at work. :)
    4403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216429)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    4404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1216398)
    Posted 10 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    About a month ago, I was able to take in a feral kitten from across the street. I will probably post pictures, and perhaps video, as we see luck turn for the kitties.
    4405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 23 things every adult knows (Message 1216308)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello SETI!!!


    Chris de Burgh / Lady in red


    Some adults do not know Chris De Burgh.
    Tennis.
    Serena.
    4406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello... (Message 1216304)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]So I spoke at Kenzie B.

    Thought I should mention ... I have not.
    4407) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216299)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, I think you are generalizing both 'camps' (monotheism and libertarianism). Within the monotheist there is certainly a broad range not only of faiths but of interpretations of faith. Within libertarianism there is a fairly broad range of interpretations as to just how far it goes.

    Because of this I'd submit it is possible to practice one or another brand of monotheism (religion) and hold to something within the range of libertarianism (politics).

    That being said, there are certainly groups of monotheists who are distinctly 'my way or the highway' just as there are numbers of libertarians perhaps might more closely resemble the image of armed anarchists we have from the late 19th century.



    Personally I don't see how monotheism and libertarianism can coexist. The one generally calls for strict rules to follow and the other the complete lack of rules.




    Or ... there's the "complete lack of rules" libertarian (just do no harm to me, and I shall do no harm to others), and perhaps there's the "just not a huge set of rules from a federal government" libertarian (make federal government as small as possible, limit the number of rules they can impose).
    Can this second group be justly called libertarian? If so, they want their rules to come from God, not Big Brother.
    ???
    4408) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216241)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, then, I think I see the source of our confusion.
    In discussing the government jobs, specifically teaching jobs, I referred to my personal experiences teaching at the college/university level. I do not think I or anyone else was talking about teaching at an earlier level.
    At the K-12 level? Yes, I suppose you have a small percentage of private schools (I taught for one, as I originally studied to teach at the secondary level) and then, as far as I recall, public K-12 schools are paid for by the local government.
    And how does the bit about differences affect the discussion then? Not sure, since it has been so long since I was focused on finding a secondary level position, for one. Also, I'd start getting into the real of anecdotes even more.
    Vary by location? Yep. Absolutely. That's when I first noticed the difference, in the early and mid-90s.
    Vary between private and public? I am much less able to answer this. In 1996-1996 I taught at a private school for emotionally disturbed children and teens. I worked only with the teens. It was run by the Methodist Church, IIRC. (No, I am not Methodist.) I'd say for a first year teacher, the pay was fairly(?) competitive? On the other hand, we were there all year long. Summer vacation was turned into 1 or 2 weeks off at the beginning, when everyone else's vacations began, and another 1 or 2 weeks off just before everybody else would return.
    4409) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216226)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are the schools paid for by the Federal Government, uh no, private are paid for the the attendees and public by the local government


    P.S.-while I suspect you know this, your statement about where the money comes from is not entirely accurate, so let's get some portion of the truth out there.

    "Private are paid for by the attendee".

    Students at a private college/university may pay up front, out of pocket.
    These days (and ever since, what, the 60s), that is less and less likely.
    Restricting our attention to, say, only tuition for the moment, some tuition is paid for by loans, including private bank loans, but also by Federal loans. Until the student has paid back the loan, in the meantime, banks and governments have initially "paid" for it. And, of course, they get interest back, as well. Some tuition is paid for by scholarships: private, local/state government and federal.

    "public ... [is paid for] ... by the local government"

    Of course, I'm sure you didn't mean it, but it comes out sounding like you're saying the students don't pay anything, government handles it all. But, we know, of course, everything I said in my previous paragraph applies here as well.
    4410) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1216218)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are the schools paid for by the Federal Government, uh no, private are paid for the the attendees and public by the local government, so why are you shocked that the pay varies by location, or is this the thinking level of person who is teaching our children today?

    Scroll up. My paycheck while teaching at a community college (my first teaching position), IIRC, came from the county. But, it might have been the state. NOWHERE in the post you quoted or elsewhere in this thread did I suggest otherwise.
    Suggest you not read into posts or, worse, put words in people's mouths. This applies to suggesting that I am "shocked", as well.
    What does surprise me is you overlooked "What I saw is a great deal of variance. Some state schools pay well, some do not. Some private schools pay well, some do not... what part of the country the school is in.", which was the main point.

    Happy Easter,

    So my point -- it is obvious that a local jobs pay will vary by location -- flew right over your head. You cutting out the part of your own words where you put emphasis via the underline and trying to blast me, well, I'm not shocked.


    Gary, occasionally ... occasionally, you remind me of some people who seek to disagree over a point they are not disagreeing on.
    Do we really need to summarize the discussion so far? Will you accuse me of getting Orwellian in my summary?

    1) Guy laments the creation of an inefficient (his words, or close enough) government agency that employs people.
    2) I ask him if government can create jobs. I also, at this point or somewhere nearby, ask if he is distinguishing between the federal and state/local levels.
    3) While Guy meant the federal level, he says he'll accept for sake of the current argument no distinction. Guy does not take the usual Republican route and parrot, who was it, Reagan?, that no, government cannot create jobs. Rather, he talks about self-sustaining ... something I wish to respond to later.
    4) I make a point about some of my teaching positions being at state colleges/universities. I mention some of those have paid nicely, some have not.
    5) Guy says he *knows* government jobs pay more.
    6) Skildude says that, except for janitorial jobs, no, they do not pay more.
    7) I clarified, stating they appeared to vary by location.
    8) You, Gary, jump into this portion of the conversation. You are, of course, welcome, but I wonder what other parts you read. You take one my points, claim it is your point, and tell me it flew right over my head. Then you say I attacked you, but "or is this the thinking level of person who is teaching our children today" preceded my much tamer suggestion of reading into things.

    Gary, I believe you see a bigger picture ... much of the time. But not always.
    I believe we all see some portion of the picture. I think we can all learn at least a little from speaking to each other on these message boards.

    From time to time, though, I think some of the responses you give to others are beneath you. They lack the dignity I think you usually display, and reflect a narrowing of the view you usually have, which is much wider.

    If you really feel my response to you was an attack, let the mods decide. If you feel very strongly about it, feel free to press the red X on that post you believe included an attack.

    But I disagree with you.

    And it leads me to the latest installment of a "head scratcher".
    Elsewhere in this forum, you have either stated, or heavily implied, that you are a Libertarian.

    One wonders why some of your most ferocious attacks (when you sink below your usual dignity), have been on MajorKong, a Libertarian, and Guy, a leaning-towards-Libertarian-but-didn't-know-yet-there's-a-name-for-it-other-than-Tea-Party kind of ... "guy"?
    4411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello... (Message 1215998)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So I spoke at Kenzie B.


    ...

    ROFL


    Ditto!
    4412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hello... (Message 1215997)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tell it to the project admins and UC Berkeley, not the mods such as Jim, lol! :)
    4413) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215987)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are the schools paid for by the Federal Government, uh no, private are paid for the the attendees and public by the local government

    Scroll up. My paycheck while teaching at a community college (my first teaching position), IIRC, came from the county. But, it might have been the state. NOWHERE in the post you quoted or elsewhere in this thread did I suggest otherwise.
    Suggest you not read into posts or, worse, put words in people's mouths. This applies to suggesting that I am "shocked", as well.
    What does surprise me is you overlooked "What I saw is a great deal of variance. Some state schools pay well, some do not. Some private schools pay well, some do not", which was the main point.

    Happy Easter,
    4414) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215938)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The example I used specifically referred to federal government jobs. But my point applies to all levels of government jobs.

    My point is, government employees get paid out of some fund generated by tax revenue. So, mathmatically, government employees are not self-sustainable. Government employees *must* be supported by the producers of the nation/state/county/city.

    Yes, I know *more* than income tax is removed from your paycheck. Yes, I know government jobs pay *more* than private sector jobs. Neither of these was my point.


    Suggest both you and Skildude reconsider what I said. As Bobby's sig says, "I think you'll find it's more complicated than that ..."

    Having applied to, and interviewed at, a number of places in 2007 and 2009, what I saw is a great deal of variance. Some state schools pay well, some do not. Some private schools pay well, some do not. It seems that a big factor in the differences is ... what part of the country the school is in.
    4415) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215937)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/7/simmons-bill-cosby-weighs-trayvon-martin-case/

    Is it the gun? Or the person carrying the gun?


    Suggest you also re-read this one.

    Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran, said “the gun” empowered Mr. Zimmerman, whose actions have stirred a firestorm of debate, protests and remarks from President Obama.

    “We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch,” said Mr. Cosby, whose remarks were the first he has made publicly about the case.

    “Without a gun, I don’t see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself,” Mr. Cosby explained. “The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations.


    I do not claim to know Bill Cosby's entire political mind, but, this strikes me as a Marx-like statement.
    And before people get turned off by hearing about Marx, I suggest a number of people have NO IDEA about the entirety of socialist/communist theory. I am aware of a number of their writings that discuss how we have been transformed by the tools we have created; essentially, the tools create something new in us, as individuals and culturally.
    WHatever else may be said about socialism/communism, to me, there is a very interesting thought.
    So, read again the quoted part: possessing the gun empowered Zimmerman, allowing Zimmerman to commit the act. And what if he had not possessed it?
    This point is made, along with the very important point, whst was a neighborhood watch volunteer doing with a gun while on watch, and pursuing Trayvon, when in training they are told not to pursue, and he was also told this during the 911 call? So on and so forth.
    Did we not hear recently that even the NRA, which supported the Stand Your Ground Laws, stated "We never intended for the law to be applied to a situation like this"?

    “When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said.


    I disagree with this statement by Cosby. But, carrying out the above line of thought, it does make it easier for someone who plans to do so to carry it out, or changes the mindset of someone: what would have been different about Zimmerman's actions, without the gun? I speculate many things would have unfolded differently.

    In his remarks at the 2004 event, Mr. Cosby pointed out to the audience that blacks had essentially created a new lower rung on the socioeconomic ladder by failing to police their children.


    And what do you think about this last part? I think that should generate a lot of discussion.
    4416) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215921)
    Posted 9 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/coke-caves-face-democratic-boycott-threat/444346

    Ah! The attempt to make voters flash an ID card has now been linked to the Trayvon Martin shooting case.


    Suggest you re-read what you linked. Voter ID cards and Trayvon's death have not been linked in as clear a way as you suggest. All that is stated is that there is a group, American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), inserting itself into both issues.
    4417) Message boards : Politics : Because the Christianity thingy does not work work for some of you......... (Message 1215674)
    Posted 8 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I cannot figure out what in the world Lynn is trying to say.
    But, to our Christian friends, and those raised Christian but now agnostic, Happy Easter.
    4418) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215534)
    Posted 8 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They sure can create jobs!

    Problem is, government jobs are not self-sustaining.

    government employee wages = government employee wages - income tax


    Explain whether you are referring to federal govt. or state govt. jobs, or if you think this does not matter, state this.
    Clarify what you mean by "self-sustaining".
    As an employee of a state university, I can tell you more than income tax is removed from each of my paychecks. Same as the last state university I taught at, though the previous one was in another state and paid me more than additional $10000 per year than what I make here.
    I can also tell you that I started my teaching career at a community college (part of the SUNY system, making me an employee of either the state or county government), as a part-timer, while working on my Master's degree. Along with that part-time teaching, I also tutored in the college's Learning Center. Between these two things, for 1991-1996 dollars, while what I made was far from putting me in the 1%, was a very nice amount for part-time work. I am pretty sure my working in retail, like I did as an undergrad, would not have pulled in the same kind of money for me.
    4419) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1215196)
    Posted 7 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head scratcher #(n+1)

    THE NIGHT WATCHMAN

    Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.

    Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job. Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies. Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?"


    So, government can and indeed does create jobs?
    Scratch, scratch, scratch.
    4420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (Message 1214872)
    Posted 7 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    but once we realized there are no Martians, unless microbial well hidden, those Burroughs novels fell apart.
    But what was up with The Twin Peaks like Martian Chronicles, eh?


    Try this. Most ficton requires it.




    I exorcise that with ur every post. :P
    4421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Keeping Cool (Message 1214816)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We need to start a rumour that there is oil on the moon, but it is guarded by terrorists...


    Wonderfully put.
    4422) Message boards : Politics : Truth In Labeling.....For Politicians (Message 1214803)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It Was Believed By Everyone. NO ONE Spake Negatively about The Messiah. It Was Hands Off! We Gots Prime, A Number 1 Beef with Dat Man! Has Ta Be! Believeth!

    Put bluntly: YOU LIE!!! Even more bluntly, you speak b.s. If you TRULY believe this, you are scarier than you have tried to be to us (which is not all that scary), and I am MORE than willing to find for you, to the Nth degree, negativity spoken before November 2008.
    (Is it time for you to drop your act yet?)
    4423) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1214655)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the answer to the deficit is the Buffett-rule?

    scratch, scratch, scratch....


    No ... . The Buffett Rule is a claimed answer to a claimed unfairness.

    P.S.-word is The Daily Mail is less news and more a tabloid. Isn't this the same one with the article by the woman who claims she is so beautiful people hate her?
    4424) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1214415)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head scratcher #(n+1)

    Speaking of activist SCOTUS judges, here's the full explaination of the president's remarks about the potential for the supreme court to invalidate his signature legislation:

    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/DOJLetter.pdf

    scratch scratch scratch...


    Obama's statements were out of line, and there's no head scratching about that.
    4425) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1214414)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Department of Energy was instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.

    Hey, pretty efficient, huh???


    Or, could it be we either have several people on a particular side that have something to gain by maintaining that dependence, or even several people on both "sides" with something to gain (again raising the question, who really pulls the strings)?
    4426) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1214411)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head Scratcher #(n+1)

    In today's age of computing technology, how come the US Census Bureau has *still* not completed the 2010 census?

    http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/


    In the 2010-2012 age of ca;;s for cutbacks, there are less computers for the crunching of census data and less government employees to act as button pushers?


    I don't think so.

    http://www.opm.gov/feddata/HistoricalTables/TotalGovernmentSince1962.asp


    1) I assume my earlier understanding of your point/question was correct?
    2) Based on (1), where is it stated at the site you originally linked that the analysis is not done?
    3) Your second link, quoted here, only goes through 2010. Thus, it does not let us see the effect, if any, of the Novemner 2010 elections.
    4) I believe, both from several reports and personal experience, that there have been significant reductions in the number of government employees, both at the federal and state levels.
    4427) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1214410)
    Posted 6 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They're just following all the current rules and taking advantage of all the current exceptions to the rules.

    This next question belongs in the "head scratchers" thread, but I'll go ahead and ask it here.

    Why not simplify the tax code so that everbody can understand it and everybody pays a fair shair instead of adding *another* exception to the rules?

    Because too many people get a free ride now.


    Suggest you find out the BB code for resizing images.
    In any case, why would your point NOT be a point for a flat tax/a tax with no exceptions and loopholes?
    4428) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1214350)
    Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I occupied Dull's brain the other day.
    There's actually stuff in their, folks.
    He just doesn't want you to know he's a real person.
    4429) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1214268)
    Posted 5 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/coke-caves-face-democratic-boycott-threat/444346

    Ah! The attempt to make voters flash an ID card has now been linked to the Trayvon Martin shooting case. This proves beyond all reasonable doubt that we have a bunch of folks (like me) trying to institutionalize racism here in the United States.

    Ok, how about a compromise? How about dipping your finger in purple ink each time you vote?

    or a tattooed number?

    Sorry should butt in on an American thread, but couldn't hold my tounge.


    American thread?
    4430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ok I'm still new/Noob to Seti@home, but it has began pulsing every few seconds whats happening? (Message 1214002)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOINC will never make a noise at you, no matter what application you run, S@H or otherwise. Put simply, you must have experienced a coincedence: your 3 year old accidentally pressed play on WinAMP and some weird Ke$ha song started playing. It beeped (because she over relies on electronica) in unison with some mildly high spikes you analyzed for S@H. These spikes are most likely meaningless. If they do contain meaning, you will be contacted: by ET, men in black, or project administrators. :)
    4431) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213975)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guy, in addition to Sarge's explanation, you need to consider the response from some of your libertarian buddies to the imposition of questions from the 'blue hats'. Some of those folks might also run afoul of state election identification requirements.

    Actually, it's a hypothesis. So, I'm waiting to see if someone can suggest a reason why my idea about cutbacks makes sense, or if someone can support it.
    4432) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213973)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head Scratcher #(n+1)

    How is requiring voters to present a state issued identification card in order to vote preventing minorities from voting?

    Because it is a poll tax. Ask yourself, is that state issued ID card free?


    Also ask: is there a small percentage that can drive, but do not, for whatever reason.
    Or, have you ever lost some of the supporting documents required to that card?
    4433) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213951)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A census is inherently inaccurate. There has to be canvassing and it will still be inaccurate since where people live is fluid and uncertain. This is especially true in the age of illegals and migrants.

    Better to take a poll and divide up districts by other numbers ( registered voters, tax rolls, jury lists, school populations etc)


    William, I am surprised you have misread Guy's question.
    Data gathering, which is what is done by the canvassers, is done.
    Guy is also not asking about the flaws of our continued attempts to call it a census.
    He is asking, why, 2 years after the data has been gathered, the analysis is not complete.
    4434) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213908)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Head Scratcher #(n+1)

    In today's age of computing technology, how come the US Census Bureau has *still* not completed the 2010 census?

    http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/


    In the 2010-2012 age of ca;;s for cutbacks, there are less computers for the crunching of census data and less government employees to act as button pushers?
    4435) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1213835)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The USDA seems to agree.

    Don't you worry at all, big brother knows best.

    If she believed that, she wouldn't be posting about this.
    4436) Message boards : Politics : First Amendment? (Message 1213786)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary, the Arizona legislators are a collection of dim bulbs from the right wing of the TeaPublican party. The very scary thing is that have the majorities to over ride any veto of a 'moderate' TeaPublican governor.

    The good news is that the games these radicals are trying are in fact annoying some remaining moderate Republicans -- and if those moderate Republicans vote with the Democracts, some of the worst legislation might not succeed.

    Barry, moderate republicans do not count in any meaningful way, that is why I became a moderately liberal independent about 20 years ago.


    No, it's topologists that don't count. If it is finite, add little omega and make it infinite.
    4437) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213769)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Activist judges are those that try to legislate from the bench instead of doing their job which is to interpret the Constitution.

    Gee, is something about probable cause in the Constitution?
    4438) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213767)
    Posted 4 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Judicial Activism: Any decision a nut case doesn't agree with!

    Well, when the Arizona state troopers come to Cali for a "visit" with you, regarding your "annoying" S@H posts, decide to arrest you, then proceed with the "full cavity searc", despite NO PROBABLE CAUSE for believing you might be smuggling something ... in the cavity known as YOUR BUTT ... . Well, maybe you'll feel things differently afterwards. Er, I mean, feel differently. :)
    4439) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213678)
    Posted 3 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    #2:
    ---
    Activist judges on The Supreme Court rule you can be ... searched ... when arrested for any level of violation.
    Bur I'll bet they'd be very upset if searcher and searchee began a relationship after such an intimate search.
    This is from the group that brought you "Corporations are people" and SuperPACs.
    4440) Message boards : Politics : Head Scratchers ... (Message 1213484)
    Posted 3 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... in the current news.

    #1:
    ---
    Rick Santorum just advocated emplyers getting away from offering their employees health insurance. Just another way for them to invest less in us, yet still expect us to do a good job for them. Sha, as if. Sure, go with that, Rick. Watch more of America in turn be less willing to invest themselves in their jobs for their employers.
    4441) Message boards : Politics : I have been slimed.. (Message 1213286)
    Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like hamburger is going to get hard to find.
    Beef processor files for bankruptcy over 'pink slime' uproar.

    http://news.yahoo.com/beef-processor-files-bankruptcy-over-pink-slime-uproar-132022703.html
    Will the price of a hamburger double?


    I've been tracking Big Mac prices for 24 years. (Big Mac, no extras, supersize or otherwise.) Based on my (B)ig(M)ac(P)rediction(N)etwork, I am, sorry to say, sir, not able to confirm your doom and gloom and scenario. In fact, I deny your claim.
    4442) Message boards : Politics : Because the Christianity thingy does not work work for some of you......... (Message 1213094)
    Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now folks can see why I chose not to participate. Been round the block a few times. I've learnt not to go looking for trouble.

    I did not go out looking for trouble, just wanted to share my faith in God.

    I did not count on the bashing that would commence.

    My faith has not diminished.


    I think it was only 1 or 2 of the posters,
    (And in this thread, perhaps a new 1.)
    Personally, I would like to see your other thread re-opened, as I wished to respond to some of the more recent posts at the end. Namely, scimansteve's bit about Christianity being used to promote slavery. I really think the "all religion is good" (or, "everything about my religion is good") and "all religion is bad" stances are, bluntly put, dishonest.
    4443) Message boards : Politics : NewsFlash (Message 1213093)
    Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sirius is being mischievous...


    Oh gosh! Really? Wow, would never of thought it, well I never .....


    Crackin' good post, matey!
    In the meantime, so long, and thanks for all the fish!
    4444) Message boards : Politics : Afghan girls who live as boys (Message 1211153)
    Posted 28 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this article racist? Because the woman lived in Pakistan and they mention the country where events occurred? If that's our standard, well, I mention you're living in Ireland. Ta da, now I am a ******, even though I am 25%-50% Irish.
    Funny thing, how that works, eh?
    4445) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1209232)
    Posted 23 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What does genetics, tracing back 3500-4000 years have to say about this?


    They are all semites


    As far as I know, that's correct, so as I said, it's much like a civil war, and we know the U.S. does not get involved in civil wars, right?
    4446) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1209166)
    Posted 23 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the goal this summer should be $8/gallon.

    If the Israelis have their way, we may just get there.

    A bizarre thought hit me today, and I do not wish to be offensive here, but let's think about this: is supporting Israel close to supporting a civil war? What does genetics, tracing back 3500-4000 years have to say about this?
    4447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1209162)
    Posted 23 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3) Chris S.: "I bet Agent 99 never have to do this."
    2) Skildude: "The latest episode of "I didn't know I was pregnant."

    And the winner is ... !

    1) Celt Tooth: "Mommy I promise to be good, please let me out!"

    Congratulations! Sending PM now ... .
    4448) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1208815)
    Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'm glad the 1% can waste their money on thousands of Etch-a-Sketches to hand out at campaign events. Now THAT's a sure sign of being a "fiscal conserbative".

    BTW, class warfare is waged by those that can afford the weapons.
    4449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1208650)
    Posted 22 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, so either 10 posts or 48 hours, whichever occurs second?
    4450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1208377)
    Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I will need someone to PM me with the current rules. 10 posts? Because i was thinking of making he decision Friday.
    4451) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fibonacci numbers (Message 1208349)
    Posted 21 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pi is an infinite series. The nth Fibonacci number has a closed form equation. What's interesting is that the equation has irrational numbers in it yet gives a whole number (rational)

    That is one definition of Pi.
    One could also define it as 4 * integral(sqrt(1 - x^2),0 .. 1,dx).
    So many ways to start.
    4452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1208275)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wink wink, nudge nudge, vote Sarge. ;)
    (Double meaning.)
    4453) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fibonacci numbers (Message 1208274)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice respondence to Fibonacci numbers thanks.
    I am not a math wize I took my math in the old days before computers and we use slide rules so what does a:=1 mean
    As a part of the symbol sometimes used to mean "A is defined as 1" or is a=1?
    And what does === mean?

    On the software I was using, well known constants such as Pi cannot be redefined. If I type "evalf(Pi);", it returns 10 digits (or whatever I set it for) of 3.141592654... .
    If I want to define Sarge's constant as 2.176218, i could use SC:=2.176218. So, indeed, the colon before the equals sign indicates I am defining something the software package does not already know to be equal.
    4454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1208121)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "OK, guys at Saturday Night Live, try imitating THIS face! HA!"
    4455) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fibonacci numbers (Message 1208120)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a:=1;
    >
    > for k from 1 to 10 do
    > b:=a*(1+sqrt(5))/2:
    > print(evalf(b));
    > a:=b:
    > od:

    a := 1


    1.618033989


    2.618033990


    4.236067980


    6.854101971


    11.09016995


    17.94427193


    29.03444188


    46.97871382


    76.01315574


    122.9918696

    >
    4456) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fibonacci numbers (Message 1208119)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a:=1;
    > b:=1;
    >
    > for k from 1 to 100 do
    > c:=a+b:
    > print(c);
    > a:=b:
    > b:=c:
    > od:

    a := 1


    b := 1


    2


    3


    5


    8


    13


    21


    34


    55


    89


    144


    233


    377


    610


    987


    1597


    2584


    4181


    6765


    10946


    17711


    28657


    46368


    75025


    121393


    196418


    317811


    514229


    832040


    1346269


    2178309


    3524578


    5702887


    9227465


    14930352


    24157817


    39088169


    63245986


    102334155


    165580141


    267914296


    433494437


    701408733


    1134903170


    1836311903


    2971215073


    4807526976


    7778742049


    12586269025


    20365011074


    32951280099


    53316291173


    86267571272


    139583862445


    225851433717


    365435296162


    591286729879


    956722026041


    1548008755920


    2504730781961


    4052739537881


    6557470319842


    10610209857723


    17167680177565


    27777890035288


    44945570212853


    72723460248141


    117669030460994


    190392490709135


    308061521170129


    498454011879264


    806515533049393


    1304969544928657


    2111485077978050


    3416454622906707


    5527939700884757


    8944394323791464


    14472334024676221


    23416728348467685


    37889062373143906


    61305790721611591


    99194853094755497


    160500643816367088


    259695496911122585


    420196140727489673


    679891637638612258


    1100087778366101931


    1779979416004714189


    2880067194370816120


    4660046610375530309


    7540113804746346429


    12200160415121876738


    19740274219868223167


    31940434634990099905


    51680708854858323072


    83621143489848422977


    135301852344706746049


    218922995834555169026


    354224848179261915075


    573147844013817084101


    927372692193078999176

    >
    4457) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Fibonacci numbers (Message 1208115)
    Posted 20 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2
    4458) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our Flo-RIDE-uh (Message 1208078)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The entire situation is just bizarre. Zimmerman makes the statement that "these assholes always get away" to the 911 operator, chases down the kid without cause and against the orders of the operator, ends up drawing and firing his weapon at an UNARMED person, kills him, and then claims it was self-defense. I hope the police investigation gets to the bottom of it.

    I didn't hear that quote, but I heard the rest.
    And whatever happened to "responding with equal force" as opposed to the escalation (responding with a more powerful weapon) in the Florida "Stand Your Ground" law?!? (And in this case, I guess since the teen turned out to be unarmed, any weapon besides fists would be more powerful.)
    I hope somebody does a voice analysis to prove it could not have been Zimmerman screaming for "help".
    4459) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1208044)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    relive 1972 and the gas lines


    I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

    Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

    You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

    When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

    So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

    Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

    Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

    Loving1972DullNando


    We are 3 years away from the second coming of Doc Brown & Marty.
    Oh, and Just for Men works better than Grecian formula. ;)
    4460) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1207944)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    relive 1972 and the gas lines


    I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

    Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

    You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

    When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

    So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

    Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

    Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

    Loving1972DullNando


    Hurricane Agnes turned the sandbox into a horizontal mudslide.


    And, yes, I remember it.
    4461) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1207942)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    relive 1972 and the gas lines


    I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

    Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

    You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

    When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

    So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

    Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

    Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

    Loving1972DullNando


    Hurricane Agnes turned the sandbox into a horizontal mudslide.
    4462) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our Flo-RIDE-uh (Message 1207826)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, Florida, sounds like you've got some GREAT self-defense laws. But why is "Zimmerman's" voice so high when he's crying for help?
    4463) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1207825)
    Posted 19 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't Worry Broheims, The Election will be A Real Humdinger.

    Once Billion Bucks goes against Billion Bucks, The Sheeple and Zombies will Be Flocking and Frothing To The Booths to Throw The Lever.

    I'm Looking Forward to the Ugly Nastiness of It.

    May The Better of The Worst Win.

    GrecianFormulaDullNando


    Those of us not born until the very late 60s do not want a rehash of the 60s culture wars, any more than we want to relive 1972 and the gas lines.
    P.S.-Grecian Formula sucks, try pomade. ;)
    4464) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : OPERA experiment (Message 1206719)
    Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course it was flawed. Everyone knew that almost immediately. This is why it's so important to properly review and confirm new information before going public with it, you don't need to get people all excited over nothing. It makes the entire scientific community look foolish.

    One of the most basic tenets of science is reproducibility. That means this result should be able to be produced again and again, preferably NOT on the same (apparently broken) equipment. Did they do this? Well they reproduced it, but they used the exact same equipment, in the exact same configuration. It stands to reason that they're probably going to get the same bogus result. Now if someone can actually corroborate these results and produce superluminal neutrinos, that's a whole different story. As it stands this is just another case of scientists seeking their 15 minutes of fame.


    I think skildude responded well, but you do not seem to agree, and so I ask, how are scientists supposed to reproduce something they do not even know about it, because possible findings were not made public, hmmm? Catch 22. I am much more worried about criminal cases being discussed so much in the media and convictions (or failures to convict) in the court of public opinion that take place long before the actual trail even takes place!
    4465) Message boards : Politics : New Russian President (Message 1206718)
    Posted 16 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Putin have no strong ideas, he is the representative of interests of a parasitic bureaucratic administrative layer. Therefore he is not the reformer and not the conservator, he is the dexterous imitator of ideas and deeds.

    I do not think we have any Putin defenders here.
    4466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Science Channel program "Alien Encounter" (Message 1206017)
    Posted 15 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps Dan could tell us if it was a recycled clip.

    The program did give a nice nod to SETI@home.

    Of course, while there was a focus on Hat Creek, there was no mention of Arecibo.

    I think to get that answer, you'd have to PM to ask him to visit this thread.
    I think it still remains the main person we see here from time to time is Eric.
    4467) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1206016)
    Posted 15 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Putting it bluntly, if the Republican field was different, which would you like to see as a candidate that you would vote for?
    Or, is it as we suggested recently in another thread: it really would not matter?
    4468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1205927)
    Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I've found one that might work....

    Now what's this little critter thinking/saying/about to do....



    "Back in the day, I use to carry my beak with me to school. Think anybody messed with me? Well, do ya?"
    4469) Message boards : Politics : American Civil Rights - Do They Really Exist? (Message 1205924)
    Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You would need to define "USA Foreign soil". The USA has (or did have) airbases in the UK with our permission. Whether they would have any more legal rights to "try" someone within those areas as against 5 miles down the road, I have no idea.

    Bentwaters!
    4470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Science Channel program "Alien Encounter" (Message 1205687)
    Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, little interest here in the program?

    I watched it, seeing some of my heroes.

    My usual two complaints: BOINC was never mentioned; Dan from SETI@home still speaks of the project being done in "a screen saver", which, of course, most of us do not run any screen saver.


    Perhaps it is a recycled clip.
    4471) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1205686)
    Posted 14 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OBlahBlahBlah aka Commander-In-Cheese/Of Cheese, There is a Problem. Second Term has now been Taken Out Of Being In-The-Bag.

    Peace Prize Potus has Now Officially been Burned in Effigy.

    This ain't The World of My Lai anymore Mr. Cheese.

    The Rampaging Soldier needs to be Handed Over. You do that, Say Good-Bye to Second Term. Don't do it and Say Good-Bye to Second Term.

    So many Were Hoping for Something. It Is Now Here. The Big Smile has a Bug-A-Boo. Sticky Wickit Much?

    It would of been nice if The Incident would have been Just The Usual Sexual Shenanigans, and Not Something So Tragic.

    Oh Well.

    Enjoy The Last Months of WH Cusine, bro.

    DangItAllDullNando


    "They will greet us as liberators", oh, Darwin's Worm,
    around the world infuriators, are always awarded the second term, lol.
    4472) Message boards : Politics : New Russian President (Message 1204965)
    Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    you forgot the wink wink
    Vote Early and Vote Often! It is the Chicago way!

    Vote often and then start a petition (gaining enough signers) to repeal what was just voted in, it's the California way!
    BAZINGA!!!
    4473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beets Give us a Caption #43 (Message 1204932)
    Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'ma lo0kin' ima lookin'

    Ooooo how about this one



    "Look at Ginger go! (If I can get my huge body moving, I might catch him!)"
    4474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My Hibiscus has gone bananas! (Message 1204931)
    Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    This is the third such flower in the last two weeks, I reckon it's an alien Triffid in disguise ....




    Dude, stop doing hibiscus.
    4475) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1204905)
    Posted 11 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone else just plain disgusted with the total amount of wasted $,$$$,$$$,$$$.$$ on the entire contest?

    How DARE you?
    Moving that money around stimulates the economy without government help. Far more stimulation than the purchase and resale of painting. You should bow before those spending so much to keep these campaigns going.
    4476) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1203416)
    Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OBlabBlabBlab, show US The Way to A One Pot and One Chicken Community. Where We dip Our Shared Bread in Our Shared Gravy on Our Shared Plate.

    In OBlabBlabBlab's New USA, there is No Unemployment. Everyone Works For Benefits For All.

    We The Sheeple will All Be Baptized on Inauguration Day 2013 In The Shared Waters of Our Own Tears being shed For Our Blessed Salvation by Our Messiah, The Blabber.

    DrowningDullNando


    ODulldull, take me to Jesus, with Judas my guide. Ride on, you son of a gun, into the setting sun, straight into history.


    "Dear Newt, it seems something is afewt. Romney, and now Santorum, have the SuperPACs with all the lewt, Can you keep your campaign aflewt?"
    4477) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1203364)
    Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OBlabBlabBlab, show US The Way to A One Pot and One Chicken Community. Where We dip Our Shared Bread in Our Shared Gravy on Our Shared Plate.

    In OBlabBlabBlab's New USA, there is No Unemployment. Everyone Works For Benefits For All.

    We The Sheeple will All Be Baptized on Inauguration Day 2013 In The Shared Waters of Our Own Tears being shed For Our Blessed Salvation by Our Messiah, The Blabber.

    DrowningDullNando


    ODulldull, take me to Jesus, with Judas my guide. Ride on, you son of a gun, into the setting sun, straight into history.
    4478) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1203345)
    Posted 7 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OBlameBlameBlame for President in 2012!

    Unless you would like to see BigEars in a Chevy Volt sooner than later.

    Nah. OBlameBlameBlame Speechifying Forever!

    CanYouDigItDullando


    "Oh, Mitt Romney, anointed one, I bow to thee. Trickle thy bounty down upon our country, and explain the ways to become a 1%er to me."
    4479) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our government...... (Message 1202667)
    Posted 5 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I don't believe it's outside the realm of possibilities for some republicans and some democrats to call each other up and plan out some sort of short-term, limited agreement to fool their constituents for their mutual benefit every once in a while, especially in some of the swing districts (and maybe even a couple of the swing states), but I don't believe all republicans and all democrats work together to maintain power. It's not in the individual politician's nature to work together with someone else and share power.

    Perhaps the Second Greatest Illusion is that governments can't do anything big or keep a secret? Maybe they do it incredibly well? Because the string masters above them make them make it so? How did George H.W. Bush become Ronald Reagan's running mate, anyway? Aren't there video clips of Reagan swearing up and down he'd never ask Bush to be his V.P. running mate?
    4480) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our government...... (Message 1202466)
    Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's the only thing I can think to do at this time because I believe we've already lost the country.

    Those who are in charge right now are tired of dealing with the threat from the continuous upward mobility our system of individual freedom has created. I believe Ohblameblameblameblahblahblah is successfully destroying the nation he loaths so much by pushing as many middle class down into the poor class so he and his cronies do not have to worry about power being taken away from them again.


    I think you're missing the point.
    Let me spell it for you.
    M-O-S-T to A-L-L of them (both "sides") are dirty.
    So, they're cronies together?
    4481) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our government...... (Message 1202446)
    Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SargeE4

    Ass-uming makes an ... out of
    DoDoDoNothingDullNando

    :)
    4482) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our government...... (Message 1202272)
    Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, you keep bringing up old stuff.


    I take it, by this, you mean, "Sarge, I have seen you occasionally .,.. like, 2 or 3 times in the past few weeks, mention something more than 3.5 years old"?

    But in this case, it's relevent because nothing has changed in the last 30 years.


    Of course it is relevant, and your point is precisely my point.

    So, what do we do about it? Whine like Dull, band and blame (what's the frequency, Kenneth?)?

    Most of them, on both sides, are dirty, right, Guy? Again, who pulls the strings, and what do we do about it?
    4483) Message boards : Politics : Gotta luv our government...... (Message 1201973)
    Posted 3 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.wnd.com/2000/10/4314/

    ELECTION 2000
    Gore brings back $640 toilet seat
    Investigators: VP's 'Reinventing Government' causing widespread defense purchase abuses
    Published: 10/27/2000 at 1:00 AM

    Charles C. Thompson II is a network news veteran, both as a founding producer of ABC's "20/20" and as Mike Wallace's producer at CBS's "60 Minutes." An experienced print journalist, Tony Hays' recent 20-part series on narcotics trafficking received an award from the Tennessee Press Association.

    Learn About FakegatePeter Gleick Confessed His Crime But This Scandal is Far from Over www.fakegate.org

    The military procurement horror tales of the early 1980s –
    immortalized by the $435 claw hammer, the $640 toilet seat and $7,600
    coffee makers — have returned, say investigators, thanks to Vice
    President Al Gore’s “Reinventing Government” campaign.

    CIA - Intelligence DegreeEarn an intelligence degree online at American Military University. www.AMU.APUS.edu/Intelligence

    When President Ronald Reagan first heard of the outrageous
    overcharging on ABC’s 20/20, which exposed the labyrinthine military
    purchasing bureaucracy that allowed $1,118.26 to be paid for a spare
    plastic cap for a navigator’s stool on a B-52 bomber (worth about two
    cents), he demanded answers from Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger.

    Weinberger promised Reagan he would determine the malefactors and
    punish them, but instead he appeared on Capitol Hill and defended the
    shocking prices. Outraged, Washington Post cartoonist Herblock lampooned
    Weinberger by drawing a toilet seat around his neck. The seat remained
    around his neck as long as Weinberger remained in office.

    Shortly after Gore took office as vice president in 1993, he began
    his campaign to “reinvent” government, frequently appearing on the David
    Letterman and other television talk shows, smashing ash trays to show
    how ludicrous government regulations could be. Government rules
    specified how many shards were allowable when the ashtray disintegrated.

    Fed up with bureaucrats and overly burdensome red tape, the public
    and the media basically gave Gore a wide berth and accepted what he said
    at face value. However, some were worried over Gore’s proposal to pare
    back auditors and basically pay bills on good faith.

    The Pentagon, which faced the bulk of the criticism over shoddy
    buying practices and poor fiscal controls, was therefore amenable to
    embracing Gore’s cuts of oversight, dubbing its new program “Acquisition
    Reform.”

    The Department of Defense inaugurated a system (sometimes called “Pay
    and Chase”), in which every bill that came in was paid, no matter how
    apparently inflated or otherwise suspicious, and later chased down if
    necessary in an attempt to retrieve the overpayment. The Defense
    Accounting Finance Service writes $22 billion in checks every month.

    Air Force fiscal expert Ernest Fitzgerald and veteran Capitol Hill
    investigator Charles Murphy, both working for Sen. Charles Grassley,
    R-Iowa, on a study of Air Force billing practices, recently examined 200
    items selected for them by the Air Force. They discovered that not a
    single one had been properly invoiced. This, they say, results in
    serious fraud:

    Take the case of Mark Krenik, a Pentagon fiscal oversight
    officer, who created a phony company and then billed himself $504,000.
    He had to repay the money, but was not sentenced to prison. Probation
    only, and a $495 fine. He told the federal judge that he did it because
    everyone else in his section was doing to the same, but he was not
    required to name names.

    Sgt. Robbie Miller, who was stationed at the Wright-Patterson Air
    Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, was convicted and sent to prison for
    stealing $1 million in a deal similar to Krenik’s. Miller would not
    have been caught had he not been involved in two adulterous affairs with
    female co-workers in the middle of his swindle. The second woman didn’t
    entirely trust Miller and compiled a detailed file, which she turned
    over to criminal investigators. Agents say they swooped down on Miller
    as he was hauling garbage bags of evidence out of the office to burn it.

    Fitzgerald says that even in the “bad old days of the early
    1980s,” the Air Force would prosecute someone who engaged in a
    conspiracy to defraud vendors, made false entries in financial ledgers
    or turned in fake accounts. “But now the brass doesn’t think it’s worth
    the trouble,” Fitzgerald said. Contractors were billing $300 a night
    hotel rooms, private jet flights, meals at five-star restaurants and bar
    bills to the government.

    Air Force non-commissioned officers like Miller, who handle giant
    accounts at Dayton, call any vendor account that is less than $100,000
    “budget dust” and say it’s not worth the time or effort trying to
    recover. Fitzgerald and Murphy also uncovered many instances of
    Pentagon checks being sent to deceased persons.

    According to the Project On Government Oversight, the Defense
    Criminal Investigative Agency used to get hundreds of criminal case
    referrals each year. Now it only gets a handful.

    “Drastically cutting oversight personnel blinds the government in its
    oversight of tens of billions of dollars of contracts each year,” said
    Danielle Brian, executive director of POGO.

    Another phrase used to describe fraud is “bucket billing.” This is
    for really big stuff. It means, according to Fitzgerald, that you have
    the money, but don’t have any particular program to which to allocate
    it, so you stick it willy-nilly in places where it’s hard for overworked
    auditors to discover. “Straight Pay” means you pay a contractor for
    doing no work.

    “Each time you pull one of these shenanigans, it’s a lot of work.
    Your boss and his dog have to change their books,” Fitzgerald said.

    “Fast Track” — the Pentagon’s favorite phrase for what amounts to
    lax fiscal controls — is part and parcel of the streamlined government
    Gore has promoted, but it generally means that no cost controls are in
    effect, say investigators. In fact, a Department of Defense inspector
    general’s report issued in Jan. 1999 stated that there was between two
    and three trillion dollars in “unsupported accounting adjustments” on
    the books. That doesn’t mean all that money has been stolen or wasted
    – it just means nobody knows for sure where it is.

    At a time when both George W. Bush and Al Gore are talking about
    beefing up the military, and bemoaning reports that some units are
    incapable of being deployed because of a chronic lack of spare parts, it
    now appears that some of those spare parts have been drastically
    overpaid.

    The Pentagon is paying 618 percent more for its spare parts than it
    should, according to the inspector general’s report, titled “Commercial
    Spare Parts Purchased on a Corporate Contract.” It cited a $24.72 spare
    part that the government bought from Boeing for $403.39 — a markup of
    1,532 percent. Another contractor charged $76 for 57-cent screws.

    “The problem is that by going so far in reducing oversight, ‘the
    reformers’ have thrown the baby out with the bathwater, resulting in
    cases of 618 percent overpricing again,” Brian said.

    Most responsible for the return to gold-plated military toilet seats,
    she said, is “Al Gore and his ‘Reinventing Government’ program.”
    4484) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1201869)
    Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gosh Sarge, when you need to prod the dullster to generate traffic things must be slow <grin>

    It's something that was somewhat asked of Guy, not Dull, and everyone, I would think, should have some sort of response to the linked video and the suggestion I have made.
    4485) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1201703)
    Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Texas dept Of edumacation doesn't bother listening to the Fed. they set their own agenda and the Board is packed full of God Fearing COnservative Anti-Evolutionary bible thumpers. It's hard to learn science from people that provide text books that attempt to deny science


    Ya. That's what wrong. Not enough athiests teaching our youngun's that Oblahblahblah is nothing more than a random role of the dice in which he hit the jackpot and won the lottery naming him the supreme ruler of the universe and will save us from evil corporations.

    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah
    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah

    Kneel and bow your head before the annointed one and chant!

    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah
    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah

    TheDumbSoutherRedNeckWhoNeedsToBeShownTheTrueWay


    Less than a month before the 2008 election, McCain mocks your characterizations. Yep, these guys are buddies. Their "contest" and McCain's repeated outrages since the election at Obama's moves and policies are all theater. Who really pulls the strings?


    "The silence is deafening."
    4486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dan's Poetry Corner II (Message 1201600)
    Posted 2 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The State of the Union, today:


    Choose Up Sides

    What side are you on?
    There's no middle-ground.
    Our Congress is ready--
    constituents found.

    What side are you on?
    No time to decide.
    The people who think,
    we cannot abide.

    Election-time comes,
    for hand-helds, alone.
    Conventional methods,
    we cannot condone.

    What side are you on?
    It's winner-take-all.

    * * *

    jm
    1 March 2012



    The Marble Thinker (by me)

    Truth -
    permeates our existence.
    Falsehood -
    hinders our persistence.
    What will you offer up
    in resistance?
    Will you swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time,
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to sell ya -
    It's called
    propaganda.
    Truth rearranged,
    money's exchanged.
    Truth become lies, bought.
    Never given a 2nd thought.

    We -
    are watching from the fence.
    Watching
    them fight for the defense.
    Just takes a few thousand dollars,
    for them to put a spin on the evidence.
    Will we swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to tell ya -
    could it be
    they have an agenda?
    It's all perception.
    If there are 2 sides to every story,
    is there no such thing as deception?
    Artful depiction -
    leaving only 1 choice for the jury ...
    Not enough evidence for conviction.

    Truth -
    "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said.
    Falsehood -
    is what we keep getting fed.
    I will offer up
    a fight until I'm dead.
    No, I won't swallow it -
    hook, line & sinker.
    I define the fine line
    between an open mind & a marble thinker.

    So awkward and out of place -
    I see
    you're charmed by my smiling face.
    Put me on the stand -
    raise my right hand.
    Of course, you believe me.
    "He couldn't be lying, could he?"

    The Marble Thinker on ReverbNation.
    4487) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1201456)
    Posted 1 Mar 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But shirley you understand that the best of humor has an element of truth in it and it give the author a way out of being held accountable, in the same fashion as some books have been written, like "Animal Farm." I laughed at your humor when I first read it. The problem is, nobody can tell what I'm laughing at. Am I laughing at the surprise ending (another element of good humor), or am I laughing at how you made fun of those who support things like larger government and their just rewards? Well, it depends on who you are and what your philosophy is on government and my decision on whether or not I want to show you I agree with you, offend you, or console you.

    I was personally laughing at the end of the second paragraph. Reading further made me laugh even more.



    Orwell was a socialist, and that ain't no joke. ;)
    4488) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1200533)
    Posted 28 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Texas dept Of edumacation doesn't bother listening to the Fed. they set their own agenda and the Board is packed full of God Fearing COnservative Anti-Evolutionary bible thumpers. It's hard to learn science from people that provide text books that attempt to deny science


    Ya. That's what wrong. Not enough athiests teaching our youngun's that Oblahblahblah is nothing more than a random role of the dice in which he hit the jackpot and won the lottery naming him the supreme ruler of the universe and will save us from evil corporations.

    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah
    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah

    Kneel and bow your head before the annointed one and chant!

    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah
    Oh Blah Dee, Oh Blah Dah

    TheDumbSoutherRedNeckWhoNeedsToBeShownTheTrueWay


    Less than a month before the 2008 election, McCain mocks your characterizations. Yep, these guys are buddies. Their "contest" and McCain's repeated outrages since the election at Obama's moves and policies are all theater. Who really pulls the strings?
    4489) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1200418)
    Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    U.S. Math Education reform is trying to fight the "inch deep, mile wide" curricula. Kids from Asian countries score higher on international comparison tests because they obtain this deep knowledge beginning in elementary school.

    US education is a mess, I wouldn't compare it to French or German for example where kids do the baccalaureate. They don't specialise before they are 18, but they certainly cover a good depth of the subjects they learn.

    A Mile Wide, an Inch deep.
    TIMSS-Third International Mathematics and science study.
    Cross-Cultural comparisons of Mathematics Achievement

    Some interesting reading there. Thanks.


    Your thoughts?
    4490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (Message 1200387)
    Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    but once we realized there are no Martians, unless microbial well hidden, those Burroughs novels fell apart.
    But what was up with The Twin Peaks like Martian Chronicles, eh?
    4491) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1200335)
    Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Un ver court évoluera les longues jambes d'un homme,
    un homme qui est un auteur des lettres.
    Le matin du 27 février 2012,
    il prédira.

    Good morning, Dull!

    (Wave to BarryAz!)
    4492) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1200245)
    Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Moon will be colonized ... the attempt would be made under Newt, not Obama. And I have to admit I'd like to see some push towards that effort, even if the only one talking about is Newt and he is being laughed at for it.

    In response to Nostradmus, I rebutt with Die with Your Boots On.
    4493) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1200132)
    Posted 26 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    correct, since the republicans seem hellbent on running liberals against liberals, i see no reason to bother voting, myself.

    I vote conservative.

    If they will ever run one again, i will vote for him.

    Although, if he (0bo0) makes good on his promise to "Do away with the second amendment", i do foresee a second American civil war in the next 4 years.


    Increasingly, I believe that once The Tea Party and Occupy movements realize they're pissed about some of the same things, they will join forces, and it won't be a "civil" war, version 2.0, that we'll be looking at. It'll be something else Version 2.0.

    How little you understand. The Tea Party thinks the Government is to big and the Occupy movement thinks the government is not big enough to serve their needs. This alone would prevent them from ever joining.


    Then how fooled are you by your own version of lame media? Try reading a bit more deeply.
    4494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Not for KB............ (Message 1199520)
    Posted 25 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From a neurobiological standpoint, Leonard, you may be alone because your psychological state is causing an actual pheromone-based stink of desperation.
    4495) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1199261)
    Posted 24 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    correct, since the republicans seem hellbent on running liberals against liberals, i see no reason to bother voting, myself.

    I vote conservative.

    If they will ever run one again, i will vote for him.

    Although, if he (0bo0) makes good on his promise to "Do away with the second amendment", i do foresee a second American civil war in the next 4 years.


    Increasingly, I believe that once The Tea Party and Occupy movements realize they're pissed about some of the same things, they will join forces, and it won't be a "civil" war, version 2.0, that we'll be looking at. It'll be something else Version 2.0.
    4496) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1199243)
    Posted 24 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we PLEASE get back to the hopelessness?
    4497) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198979)
    Posted 23 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yawn...

    ronald R. Codney for PREZ!
    4498) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198877)
    Posted 23 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we PLEASE get back to discussing DullNando's second term? :)
    4499) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198631)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Sarge my friend, don't encourage 'em. They'll only breed and we'll have to deal with their offsrping as well ;-))

    He's past breeding age, and the ladies are no longer attracted to men that wear lADYrhosen. :)

    Anywho-Dull, the "Gullible Store" called, They want their you back.

    Some things never change.

    Like jokes from seinfeld. ;)
    4500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1198620)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you taunt me so.



    :D

    Those shoes look like a recipe for pain...and an enhanced chance for falling down.


    She was 6'4" in her high heels.
    Never saw nuttin' like her before,
    had to stop and screech my wheels.
    she had enhancements
    that made me think of romancin'.
    Lemme tell ya what was enhanced,
    it gave a her a chance ...

    a chance ...

    a chance for ...

    a chance for falling down,
    looking like a ***** clown.
    On her face is it a bloodstain
    following that recipe for pain!
    4501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (Message 1198615)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It actually looks kind of interesting.

    Only on the SeeDee channel, readily lampooned by lovers of true science fiction.
    4502) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198612)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG! Sarge Of Academentia has spake of me! Mr. 140,000+++++ words himself!

    You SWAllOWED that? You swallowed THAT? Call the S@H doc mods, pump this man's stomach! :)
    Gee, I thought you had some degree ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    of humor. I always thought my humor was some sort of bizarre mix of English & Deustch ancestry.

    The Irish side just makes me like redheads and occasionally drink one extra beer.
    4503) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198510)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-when the poster who currently refers to himself as Dullnando refers to Obama as "OBlahBlahBlah", that's kind of funny


    OMG! Sarge Of Academentia has spake of me! Mr. 140,000+++++ words himself!

    Sorry to top your Blistering Rant Sssssarge. I'm sure Those Who Care will read it. People who have to 'splain' themselves on an Internet Message Board really get me To Shaking My Head. And then The Dullness is really exascerbated(definition?).

    Again, I reitterate(definition?)

    LOL!

    Dummies Like Me give you Brainiacs a Great Backdrop for your Debates/Arguments/Points-Counterpoints. You can Puff Out your Chest and Frontal Lobes and think you are All That.

    And still, nothing is solved. Nothing accomplished. The World Stays The Same except for some mental and posting Pats On The Back.

    We The Name Callers Represent The Greatest of Founding Father Traditions.

    So, go ahead. Talk, agree to disagree and Compromise till you are Blue In The Fingertips and your Keyboards are screaming No More!.

    We The Name Callers will be Enjoying calling The Change Agent names He Has Earned.

    DimBulbDullnando


    My dear friend Dull, who likes to call it academe(nt)ia ... let me 'splain to you.

    Is it a bit Blurry for you? I'm in academia because I worked my butt off for it, pulled myself up 2 inches by my bootstraps, and am proud of it. So suck on that. 'Splain again to me?
    4504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For Mark (Message 1198508)
    Posted 22 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cute and plays a mean guitar.

    I find her guitar playing too shrill for my tinnitus.
    4505) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198325)
    Posted 21 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obo0's

    His name is Barack h. Obama. His predecessor's name was George W. Bush, not Dubya.

    When did you ever make such a comment to any poster who used the pejorative name "Dubya"?

    At the very least, on Posted: 20 Feb 2012 | 17:24:18 UTC.

    My point exactly. That is, by my recollection, the only time. There were lots of posters here who called GWB by that name and worse during his tenure. Isn't it a little disingenuous to point it out only now when someone uses a less-than-flattering term for President Obama?


    If you care to look through all my posts, you MIGHT find a VERY small portion of my posts being about GWB, and a VERY VERY small portion may have me referring to him by the southernization of the letter W (his middle initial).

    If I ever did it, it was in EXTREME frustration. This is opposed to the people that were frustrated before Obama even took the bumbled oath of office. :)

    (With a first name beginning with W as well, a cousin recently referred to me as "Dubya". Do you think I was super-offended? Nope. Just mildly annoyed.)

    Perjoratyive? Yes. Really really perjorative? Super perjorative? I do not think so.
    On the other hand, if we knock the beginning O off of oBoo, what do we get? I wonder what the source of this nickname is.

    Disengenuous? Since you seem to think that I think alike with those you have known me to associate, I have long suspected you have dumped me in the liberal bin, when I have repeatedly pointed out I am an independent. My votes in presidential elections have been equally split. However, it is not your business to know who I voted for (and in the case of re-elections or failed earlier runs) when.

    Even people that vote for someone can become disappointed with them. When considering that Reagan was accused of being the antiChrist for having six letters in each of his names, I think a southernization of the letter W is pretty tame.

    I remind you of your "Religious Threads" of years back. Threads where you and I first "met" and walked on common ground. I remind you of Chuck. I remind you of when I finally blew my lid with him. (Recall that you were amazed how much patience I showed with him, above all others. Refer back to this post: "If I ever did it, it was in EXTREME frustration.") Even after my post where I called him out (made public again by the shenanigans of a friend of yours, but at least I have the honesty to admit I made the post and parts of it and nearby posts went too far to way too far), I still defended his right to question. And he and I shared a few cordial PMs before my unplanned S@H absence. I also found one from him, cordial as well, waiting for me upon my return. (Note: I was one of the last, or last, to accept the offer to return.)

    So ... disingenuous ... . If I can have my disagreements with Chuck, and finally blow my lid with him, but then speak to him cordially and STILL, after all that, defend his right to be an atheist, no, I do not think I am being disingenuous.

    Furthermore, I said, "at the least" in my previous response to you.
    Added to that, you know nothing of whether I have made similar statements offline in face-to-face discussions, or when I started speaking that way.

    P.S.-when the poster who currently refers to himself as Dullnando refers to Obama as "OBlahBlahBlah", that's kind of funny, and when you take the first letter off, there's no question as to what is meant and what the source of thie nickname may be.
    P.P.S-I have offline and on these message boards made fun of Obama for how his suit jacket cuff buttons clatter on the podium every time his hands bounce up and down as he makes a point. It's an annoying sound.
    4506) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1198083)
    Posted 21 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obo0's

    His name is Barack h. Obama. His predecessor's name was George W. Bush, not Dubya.

    When did you ever make such a comment to any poster who used the pejorative name "Dubya"?

    At the very least, on Posted: 20 Feb 2012 | 17:24:18 UTC.
    4507) Message boards : Politics : A country that dosen't exist:England (Message 1198020)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even the yanks could join in on this thread...they have New York, Boston, New England & their main language is English (Albeit Americanised)

    AmericaniZed. +Zed for your post due to this error.


    LOL....We're talking about England & we use an S to your Z


    Sigh. I guess I have to point out I went out of my way to call it ZED for you. :)
    4508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1198010)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gotta Love Geoff Tates voice. I lost touch with the band after Hear in the Now Frontier


    The Needle Lies!

    and for those still stuck in the Matrix

    for those looking for someone something to hold grasping desperately at sanity and sobriety... pray for change, accept what you can't Someone else not me


    Hood call on "Hear".
    As for "Real World", that was to "The Last Action Hero".
    4509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1197972)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My eulogy to Skil, as well as to make Dull's ears bleed: London!

    C'mon, Skil, these guys toured with DT! Vocal duet with LaBrie, man!
    4510) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1197855)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    U.S. Math Education reform is trying to fight the "inch deep, mile wide" curricula. Kids from Asian countries score higher on international comparison tests because they obtain this deep knowledge beginning in elementary school.

    US education is a mess, I wouldn't compare it to French or German for example where kids do the baccalaureate. They don't specialise before they are 18, but they certainly cover a good depth of the subjects they learn.

    A Mile Wide, an Inch deep.
    TIMSS-Third International Mathematics and science study.
    Cross-Cultural comparisons of Mathematics Achievement
    4511) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1197844)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obo0's

    His name is Barack h. Obama. His predecessor's name was George W. Bush, not Dubya.
    4512) Message boards : Politics : Obama's second term. (Message 1197842)
    Posted 20 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    correct, since the republicans seem hellbent on running liberals against liberals, i see no reason to bother voting, myself.

    I vote conservative.

    If they will ever run one again, i will vote for him.

    Although, if he (0bo0) makes good on his promise to "Do away with the second amendment", i do foresee a second American civil war in the next 4 years.


    You think THAT will be the reason? HA HA HA!
    4513) Message boards : Politics : A country that dosen't exist:England (Message 1196555)
    Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even the yanks could join in on this thread...they have New York, Boston, New England & their main language is English (Albeit Americanised)

    AmericaniZed. +Zed for your post due to this error.


    To be fair the 's' is a modern affectation in British English, use of 'z' was still the preferred spelling of many words in British English dictionaries into the 1990s (the last time I had regular access to new editions). I curse Microsoft Word and it's UK English spell checker as it, like many Americans, believe that the 's' version is preferred.


    Plus "Zed" :P
    4514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How many words do you know? (Message 1196554)
    Posted 18 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many words do you know

    Interesting little test that estimates how many (English language) words you know.

    I'll be honest: I only know 26,600. Roughly as literate as the average fence post. :P


    132,644
    4515) Message boards : Politics : The F word......... (Message 1196517)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like the'N' word.........
    It has been bandied about through the ages.

    Increasing in use as a stable of modern vocabulary.

    This lesson is in order. The word is NOT going away,......

    Use it wisely, and proudly.


    Sorry, George Carlin was a liberal.
    4516) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1196516)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep. Geography. Pretty much meaning one and meaning two from that definition.

    The exam had a list of several nations, and for each one the student had to discuss the physical features (mountain ranges, rivers, approximate area, etc.), the biological features (the types of climatic zones found in that nation, etc.), the cultural features (approximate population, language(s) spoken, prominent religion(s), the government of that nation, major cities, etc.). Additionally, they had to discuss things like major crops, resources, industries, imports, exports, trading partners, friendly nations, and unfriendly nations.

    And it was an essay exam. No short answer. No fill in the blank, no true/false, and especially no multiple choice.

    Like I said... Daaayyyuuummm!


    I realize I may be guilty of dredging by going back to the question of "dumbing down" of exams, though while I was researching something only adjacently connected I found a reference to the Flynn effect, which makes for interesting reading. I found the link here, which does suggest that there may be some basis to recent grade inflation in the UK, though it is by no means clear cut (in typical Goldacre style, there are many caveats).

    I do know that I gave questions from my old GCSE physics exam revision guide to my 'A' Level students to do.

    However, to be fair, 'A' Level students cover a wider breadth of subjects now than we did back then. It makes the British curriculum a little more like the rest of the world where students don't specialise so early.


    U.S. Math Education reform is trying to fight the "inch deep, mile wide" curricula. Kids from Asian countries score higher on international comparison tests because they obtain this deep knowledge beginning in elementary school.
    4517) Message boards : Politics : A country that dosen't exist:England (Message 1196514)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even the yanks could join in on this thread...they have New York, Boston, New England & their main language is English (Albeit Americanised)

    AmericaniZed. +Zed for your post due to this error.
    4518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1196382)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My eulogy to Skil, as well as to make Dull's ears bleed: London!
    4519) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1196380)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well they got it partly right, the bankers of the future became the Ferengi.

    In theory, every business transaction that a Ferengi makes is governed by two hundred eighty-five Rules of Acquisition, though the rules themselves give the Ferengi license to cheat, steal, and bend the truth to suit their needs.


    +1
    4520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1196187)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most New Years' I go to Vancouver's 'Sin City Fetish New Years Party' but there is no way I can get from home to the party in the boots I wear, so I change when I get there.

    Minstrel.
    4521) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1196186)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Certainly there is one A Level maths teacher, who lives with about a 100 mtrs from me, was astounded when I told her, that in my trade knowledge of Trig Indentites (you know that stuff about double and half angle formulas) and logarithms (for Chris's favourite subject db notation) was essential.
    She said they covered Trig Identites in one session and the students do no work on them because they take too long and are therefore not in the exams. And that logs are not used because they now had claculators.

    If such is the case, they are in for a rude shock in college.
    In the past 14 years, I have taught 100 level classes requiring coverage of logs and trig identities (not always in the same course). I do not make these choices. It is what I am told to include in the courses. At more than one institution.
    I am also pro-technology ... appropriate use.
    4522) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1196184)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There was a debate stop for a GOP candidate. Addressing the crowd he said
    The media has continued to be biased. Why, consider Star Trek. There is a one-world government -- Scotty is Scottish, Chekov is Russian, and Kirk is from the US.

    > They get all their medical care for free.

    > All the women work instead of having kids and staying home.

    > Everyone fools around without being marriage.

    > There is never any mention of God. Instead, science solves everything.

    > There is no private enterprise -- the Federation runs everything.

    >
    > Why is there never any representation of good Republican principles in the show or movies?
    >
    > He then paused for dramatic effect.
    >
    > And a voice in the audience drifted across the crowd…
    >
    > Well duh! It's in the FUTURE dude, not the PAST!


    +1 ... though it's a terrible oversimplification of Star Trek. Recall that in Season 5 or 6, Picard likened Kirk & Spock to George W> Bush. :)
    4523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1196180)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kenzie, we kept the thread warm for you ....

    I necromanced it.
    4524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1196179)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I agree with Everything you have said Skildude.

    And I, for one, will not care one iota when You Decide To Rest Eternally.

    DrowsyDullnando


    Happy Valentine's Day, Dull!
    4525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Skildude (Message 1196178)
    Posted 17 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    D'oHpe

    How's that dopey chamy thing working out for ya?
    4526) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1195311)
    Posted 14 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does a follow up on a story always or sometimes beat the original one?

    Mark comes in best here with his original posting, be it a joke or not, followed next by Sarge.

    Anyone better?


    Mine was not a joke, it was a skewering of perceptions.
    4527) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1194937)
    Posted 13 Feb 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has the direction of the thread changed in the past two weeks, or should I just bail out of trying to contribute anything further here?
    4528) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1190184)
    Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A 110 year old man from Kansas City, MO who was a gun-toting ultra right-wing conservative purchased a large tract of land in Illinois so his grandsons and great-grandsons could grow corn and sell it to be turned into ethanol. Well, one of the neighbors to the land, a 93 year old man who was also an ultra right-wing conservative, thought ethanol was a bad idea and he went to vociferously complain to the man about how the land was being used. When the 110 year old man had had enough, while the 93 year old still complained, he went to get his gun, came back and fired. Unfortunately, being 110, his aim was off and shot himself. In a region that would be difficult for a man to tolerate being shot in. As an ultra-conservative, hating hospitals and everything related to them, he went to a local charitable lady add asked for her help. She refused. She told him, at 110, he didn't have use for that kind of thing anymore.
    4529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1190177)
    Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4530) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1190130)
    Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd say the joke is a bit ... limp.

    There's a little pill that can help with more rapid and vigorous response to my jab, ha ha.

    Perhaps turnabout is not fair play, and the sense of humor is now ... deflated?
    4531) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1190117)
    Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd say the joke is a bit ... limp.

    There's a little pill that can help with more rapid and vigorous response to my jab, ha ha.
    4532) Message boards : Politics : Pubic tolerance...... (Message 1190061)
    Posted 30 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd say the joke is a bit ... limp.
    4533) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1189843)
    Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep. Geography. Pretty much meaning one and meaning two from that definition.

    The exam had a list of several nations, and for each one the student had to discuss the physical features (mountain ranges, rivers, approximate area, etc.), the biological features (the types of climatic zones found in that nation, etc.), the cultural features (approximate population, language(s) spoken, prominent religion(s), the government of that nation, major cities, etc.). Additionally, they had to discuss things like major crops, resources, industries, imports, exports, trading partners, friendly nations, and unfriendly nations.

    And it was an essay exam. No short answer. No fill in the blank, no true/false, and especially no multiple choice.


    Well, then this does sound like quite a bit. Then again, I know I got at least some portion of that in my education in the 70s.
    And I still ask the question, how many (better, what percentage) of children were getting at least an 8th grade education? Further, of them, what percentage were learning that much about Geography?
    We may both be rounding when we think of "100 years ago". So, what would the answers be for both before and after compulsory education in the U.S.?

    Based on this (and it matches what I have learned elsewhere about it), Major, are you sure this is the math you were "exposed to"?


    Yes. An emphasis on theory and a lack of emphasis on the practical. But the *point* of elementary school (grades 1 to 4) "math" was to teach the students the practical arithmetic skills they would need to function in society. 1st & 2nd grades: addition & subtraction. 3rd & 4th grades: multiplication, division, and some work with fractions (both rational and decimal)... The theory would come later on in Jr. High (5th through 8th grade), so that the student would be ready for Algebra I in either 8th or 9th grade.


    Fair enough. Some people do not remember much about their early education. And, as I said, it is my understanding that the New Math that followed Sputnik did not get applied nationwide.

    Note: I didn't say mathematics, I said arithmetic. And it wasn't the school that expected it, it was the community. Back then it was because of the new math.


    Arithmetic: among other things, adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing, factoring numbers. 9IN the last case, factoring of natural numbers.) Working with inverse operations and numbers that are inverses under a particular operation.
    Algebra: among other things, adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing and factoring polynomials; applying the first four to rational expressions (aka, algebraic fractions, with polynomials as numerators and denominators); applying the first four to radical expressions (radical, or root); solving equations, using what I said about inverses.
    Linear algebra: doing much of this for matrices.
    Abstract (or Modern Algebra): etc. ... .
    Given this repetition , you can see why spoke of mathematics in general, not restricting myself to arithmetic. One can also understand why New Math was attempted, even though they got it wrong.
    4534) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1189813)
    Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As to that buck a week, I suppose I'm going to have to decide if people under 18 owe the buck a week. Obvious Mom and Dad are the ones who would have to pay. Lots of people would get offended at that because it could be seen against "go forth and multiply."

    "Be stewards" already goes against that.
    4535) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1189810)
    Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major, I think skil misread some of your early comments -- regarding flat tax -- this is an area (all income = income in a true flat tax) that I'm in agreement with you.

    Same applies to my feeling about the 'peoplehood' of corporations. Taking the current 'corporations are people' plus the Teapublican 'life begins at conception' together, that would mean that discussions to form a corporation that failed could be construed as being an illegal act (abortion). What's with that.



    ROFLMAOASTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks, I needed the laugh!


    I think Barry has borrowed from me.
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65688&nowrap=true#1186899 and http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65688&nowrap=true#1186898
    If corporations are people, at what point does people life begin for the corporation?
    If corporations are people, were the bailouts pro-life?
    Or, is it more like "end of life decisions. Probably doctors' violations of DNR orders"?
    4536) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1189643)
    Posted 29 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apparently my need for rest was far greater than I thought.
    As I write this very long post, it occurs to me that most of what I am writing is not direct response to things Bobby has brought up. So, before I forget, I feel I must point out that if the same standard were applied to me, Bobby, I'd be in trouble:

    Bobby wrote
    Posts by Chris S > 14,000
    Posts by Bobby < 1,000

    As your sig says, "I think you'll find it is more complicated than that...".
    First, a database error a few years back resulted in several posters older posts disappearing. This may include some of your posts. My own post count could be 1000 higher than indicated.
    Also, back when I was posting on a daily basis, in the morning being involved in some of the discussions could be like a strong cup of coffee, sharpening my wit and getting ready for the day. Night time posts might have helped me wind down.
    So, just with these few points, I think we can see that gauging how anyone might manage their time and it's correlation to post counts is not as clear cut as you might expect.

    There are some different points being raised about parenting: their role in discipline and their role in education.
    I do not feel myself qualified to talk about the discipline issue much, as I am not a parent.

    Chris wrote:
    The school stated that no child of the age of 5 was in anger management classes, therefore as a Primary school, we are left to conclude that the age group concerned is from 6-11. Anger management classes are usually given as part of sentences at Youth Courts to unruly teenagers up to the age of 17, it is incredible that this should prove to be necessary with children of that age.

    I had a lot of anger in me building from, about, ages 5-8. For good reason. It started to well up again around age 17. Within that year, I made a choice to curb the negativity. All the while, I did well in my schooling, and Chris, you know how much further I took it. I will also point out that my father was the valedictorian of his high school in 1958.

    My first teaching position was at a community college, part time, which began as I was working on my Master's degree. Upon finishing, I taught there another 3.5 years. The last 1.5 years of that, I also taught full time at a private school for emotionally disturbed, or those deemed PINS (Person in Need of Supervision) by the court, teens. "Therapeutic restraints" were allowed to be used there (legally) when a student posed a danger to self, others or property.
    I met several of the parents, once or twice a year, and while some of them might have justifiably been labeled as not interested in their child's behavior or education, others were but were simply in over their heads. (Consider that some of those emotional disturbances might have been genetic. We know some things skip generations. Also, some of the parents were adoptive parents.)

    I think that's all I have to say at the moment about the discipline issue. On to education itself.
    One difficulty we will have in this discussion is talking about differing systems. That in the US versus that in the UK, as that is where the thread contributors have been posting from.
    The other is, to put a term to it, "belief in a golden age" (primarily espoused by Chris (one link to a comment along those lines) & John (another link to a comment along those lines), and I've seen a bit of it from MajorKong, as well). So, let me state right off that I do not believe there was a golden age, and attempt to defend why I believe that. On the other hand:

    Bobby wrote
    What to do about it? Well that's the question isn't it?

    Presupposes that something needs to be done. If the comments were meant as more than statements of opinion, then they need to be supported and the question of what to be done can be examined. However, if they are opinion, then the question has no place, why should anybody be reasonably expected to act based on the unsubstantiated opinion of another?

    Yes, Bobby, I agree with Chris (and John, and MajorKong) that educational systems are in a mess and that something needs to be done about it.

    MajorKong wrote
    You're correct about the education standards. The slipping started well before the 1970s, but got bad around then. I have seen, for instance, an 8th grade geography exam from about 100 years ago. Dayuuuummm!
    When I saw it, I might have been able to pull a C on it. These days, I doubt that even PhD students could pass it, and high school students would likely only be able to stare at it and drool on it. And only about 100 years ago, this was expected to be common knowledge for 8th graders.

    If you were speaking of Geology (Earth Science), this might be easier to follow. But Geography?

    Pardon a moment of being pedantic. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/geography:
    1: a science that deals with the description, distribution, and interaction of the diverse physical, biological, and cultural features of the earth's surface
    2: the geographic features of an area
    3: a treatise on geography
    4a : a delineation or systematic arrangement of constituent elements : configuration <the philosophers … have tried to construct geographies of human reason


    To me, Geography is about locations. Memorizing shapes of states, or countries. Knowing their capitals. Knowing where these things are in relation to one another. Things that I and my classmates were expected to memorize in 5th grade. (Ages 10-11.) However, Geography tended to go hand-in-hand with History and Current Events. And it has been my long-held belief that the latter things about Geography can be memorized, as I did in 5th grade, and some of which I am still able to recapture.On the other side there are concepts. For someone my age, born in the late 60s, the two come togehter to help understand the problems the US faced in fighting in Vietnam. (Perhaps this is related to John's comment about "searching questions"?-http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66639&nowrap=true#1187519.)

    BTW, Major, I had access to some of my Dad's textbooks from the 50s, and also picked up some old textbooks or pamphlets ranging from the late 1800s to 1950 or 1960. These, too, were found in used bookstores-one in Ithaca, NY, near Cornell University.

    For those not in the US, or not versed in the history of education, particularly "compulsory education" here, this might be worth a read.

    I believe education is something everyone should have access to. That does not mean everyone will benefit from it equally. I believe this to be part of democracy: "equality of oppotunity".

    Major, how many people had at least an 8th grade education 100 years ago?

    My grandmother on my father's side, born in 1920, never had to take Algebra. Neither did some of my peers in the 1980s.

    From my grandmother's time, in some ways, more has been expected of students. Or, more students have been expected to go further than they were in earlier decades. Or some combination of the two. The website I linked mentions the 1983 report "A Nation at Risk", attesting to declines in U.S. student achievement. That was determined, in part, by use of international comparison tests. The third such test, TIMSS for short (Third International Mathematics and Science Study, IIRC-some of you may wish to search for information on it), took place in 1996 and further underscored the decline of U.S. students' performance. Often at the top were students from Asian countries.

    But it goes back further. Say about 1958? http://www.education.com/reference/article/new-mathematics/
    The impetus for the "new math" was the successful launch of Sputnik, the Soviet Earth-orbiting satellite, in 1957. In the United States, there was concern that we were so far behind the Soviet Union, our cold war foe, that our national security was in danger. In response, a spate of federal funds became available to improve the mathematics, science, and foreign language competence of our school children. University mathematicians saw the necessity of having some students understand the structural underpinnings of mathematics as the basis for their future work in mathematics. These mathematicians intended to "jump-start" young people who demonstrated a talent for mathematics and better prepare them for the rigors of university mathematics programs. Their strategy was to introduce topics into the school mathematics curriculum that aided the development of mathematical reasoning and proof.
    Two components of the "new math" that appeared in elementary and secondary textbooks at the time were set theory (including set notation) and the structural properties of mathematics (commutative, associative, closure, etc.). Sometimes structural properties were developed through the study of number systems other than our Hindu-Arabic base-lO system. These topics often were presented abstractly in textbooks, not connected to any practical applications.

    Society's Concerns with "New Math"

    Many elementary teachers, already insecure in their own mathematical knowledge, failed to fully understand or appreciate the mathematical implications of "new math's" structural approach. Indeed, many had difficulty connecting their familiar calculation skills with the abstract underpinnings promoted in materials grounded in the new approach. Exacerbating their lack of content knowledge was the fact that insufficient professional development was provided to support the change.

    Likewise, support materials for teachers and students did not account for parents' needs and reactions. Worksheets on abstract reasoning were sent home, instead of worksheets on calculations. The result was considerable parental confusion and consternation. In short, most parents had no understanding of what their children were learning and its relationship to their conception of arithmetic. Parents complained, for example, that students could identify the associative property underlying multiplication and addition but were not able to get correct answers on standard arithmetic exercises. Most elementary programs based on the "new math" were soon discontinued.

    The overall response in the mathematics community, however, was not to do away with "new math" altogether. Most current textbooks continue to include lessons emphasizing fundamental concepts important to student understanding and appreciation of mathematics. For example, various sorting activities still appear in elementary textbooks, with or without set notation. Sets are used in algebra (solution sets, for example) and in probability (sample space). Learning multiplication facts is made simpler by knowing that the operation is commutative, whether the term is introduced or not. In fact, students working with matrices, a topic now occurring in some ninth-grade materials, are astonished to realize that some mathematical systems are not commutative under multiplication.

    Read more at the site or do your own searches.
    The point is, "New Math" was a response to realizing the U.S. was lagging behind in math, science and technology.

    Based on this (and it matches what I have learned elsewhere about it), Major, are you sure this is the math you were "exposed to"?

    Besides what is mentioned on the site I linked, New Math, where and when it was used, failed because attention was only paid to the structural underpinnings of the knowledge domain, and ignored how children learn mathematics and how teachers can teach it. Chris, who do you suppose leveled such charges? Besides practitioners, cognitive psychologists were also quite likely involved.

    Now, to "Educational Psychologists". As I initially prepared, as an undergrad, to teach at the secondary level (and, as mentioned towards the top of this post, I did get some experience doing), I had to take a course in Educational Psychology (after having had Psychology 101 and Child & Adolescent Psychology). I do not recall the ideas being attributed to them being in my textbook (which I believe I still own, but if so, it is unfortunately currently in storage in another state, as it has been for 2.5 years). Even if there was anything along those lines and I do not remember it, I can state with certainty there was a section of the book about "Educating the Gifted Child". I was using the book in 1989-1990.

    In my home state, New York, we used to have 4 levels. The highest was not available for all subjects. High Regents, Regents, Local, and Practical Local (or PSEN at other times-I do not recall what this meant). The first two were college track. Not all of them went on to college. I think 25% of my class, including me, immediately went on to college. But within 5 short years, working at the community college, I got to work with student with a variety of backgrounds and from a wide age range. I am sure not all of them had been in the High Regents and Regents classes, meaning that having been on some other track while in secondary precluded them from a college eduction later.

    Sometime during the 1990s, in New York State, the tracking began to be removed. I do not know why. As far as I know, this has pretty much happened across most or all of the country. Perhaps it did come from something on the left, but I would be surprised if it came from people with a background in education. Politicians that had no idea? Wouldn't doubt it. Others on the left? Possibly. Why do I say this? If it were "Loony Left Educational Psychologists" (Chris' characterization), why did my textbook have anything about "Educating the Gifted Child" at all in it?

    With the "No Child Left Behind Act", I believe our federal government has pandered to those that eliminated tracking, exacerbating the problems of a 'One size fits all' education, as Luigi called it (though he was describing the U.K. situation). The odd thing is, it was championed by George W. and Laura Bush, bringing the federal involvement in education to an even greater level, even though The Constitution leaves education to the State and localities.

    MajorKong wrote
    And the illiteracy problem... Kids these days are crippled in more than just reading and writing. They can't even make change without the cash register telling them how much it should be. If I owe $3.68, and I pay with a $5... I have to tell them that 'that is $1.32 in change'... Back in the day when I was in school (late 60s and the 70s), we were expected to be able to do such simple arithmetic in our heads, almost instantly.


    I think you have it backwards. People are more likely to have difficulty with mathematics than they are with literacy. Look at the history of when language, followed by writing, developed, versus the developlment of anything mathematical beyond counting. The latter is newer, and continues to be developed. Algebra is 400-600 years old! The Ancient Greeks and others only had glimmers of it. Speech and writing is, by any measure, thousands of years older.
    While in grad school, I heard (I believe from a Cognitive Psychology professor) that all human cultures have language, even those that in this ever-increasingly connected world that still remain fairly isolated. Such is not the case when it comes to mathematics.

    Guy wrote (in response to Luigi's point about "One-size-fits-all" education:
    Luigi, that would immediately be called institutionalized racism here in the U.S.

    (Guy, please note that I did see your follow up post and completely understand where you're coming from.)
    No longer being in secondary education, but of course seeing its effects for the last 21 or so years ... yet also knowing other factors involved (it's a bit more complicated), I have the academic freedom to not follow this "One-size-fits-all" educational approach. As I indicated to MajorKong in another thread recently, I am now in an area of the country where many of my students are Hispanic/Latino. I have also, over the years, had a number of Asians as students, students from Africa (and, for lack of a universally accepted term, African American students), the U,K., former Soviet bloc countries, etc ... . This experience bears out we cannot prejudge based on "race". I have seen all ranges of results from all groups.
    As I said above, what I do stand behind is "equality of opportunity".

    Bobby wrote:
    If you ask me, the divisive nature of this system was pointless, far better to let parents and their children decide at 14 what specialisms they should enter into than have a test at 11.

    As I think Bobby has indicated in this thread and others, he is originally from the U.K., but now living/working in the U.S.
    Bobby, I wonder if you would consider the tracking that took place in New York State, of which I am a product, was similarly divisive?
    If so, please consider the following: 1) all 4 tracks existed within the same school; 2) only those that opted to go in a "vocational" direction went, for part of the day, to another campus, and IIRC, such decisions were not made until 9th or 10th grade.
    Frankly, what some of you are saying about how the tracking worked in the U.K. before, with early decisions on life path (perhaps directions students' and their parents were pushed in?) and separate schools ... it sounds like what I believe I heard about Soviet schools! If so, WTH?

    Chris wrote
    Don't forget of course we also have Citizenship classes, a compulsory part of the national curriculum for 11 to 16 year-olds in England since 2002. Wasn't that something your parents used to teach you at home as a normal part of bringing you up?

    What is covered in these Citizenship classes?
    If it is anything like what I think it might be, then, no, I do not think parents teach these things at home.
    My father took us to places such as Boston, MA, Philadelphia, PA and Gettysburg, PA so we could see places where the Revolutionary and Civil Wars took place. Of course, we learned some things. As we did in Washington, D.C., at The Smithsonian and other sites. But in no way could these experiences or others be construed as equivalent to a "Citizenship" (or "Civics"?) class, and I do not think they be expected to be.

    Chris wrote:
    How did we get in this sorry mess? Easy. Too many modern day parents don't give a fig about their kids education, they bring them up until the age of 5, then hand them over to the State Education system, and then wash their hands of any further responsibility.
    Add into the melting pot successive governments that refuse to champion marriage with the resultant increase in one parent families, without role models, and its not hard to see why we are in this situation. What to do about it? Well that's the question isn't it?

    As someone raised by a single parent, as well as some of the points I made about parents of the students I worked with at the private school in the mid-nineties, again, "I think you'll find it is more complicated than that ...".
    I will not go into the circumstances of being raised by a single parent in this open/public thread.

    Getting back to the very earliest posts ... .

    Chris wrote:
    ‘In the Far East, they regard every classroom as an open place. If a parent wants to come to observe a lesson, they think [that's] fantastic,’ he said.

    ‘If a parent says, I would like to come along and watch when my children are being taught, then I think teachers should not be afraid and encourage that level of commitment.’

    Total poppycock ...

    ...

    The average parent would not be able to assess a lesson in those ways without prior training ...


    As indicated in an early response of mine, I agree with Chris that "[t]he average parent would not be able to assess a lesson in those ways without prior training". (And I was not responding to anything Chris brought up about discipline issues.)

    Bobby wrote
    As Sarge points out, there's often more than one approach to teaching, even in subjects such as mathematics, and a parent who has been taught one way may not be equipped to assist their child if s/he is being taught in a different way. Attending the classroom may help equip parents with useful tools as well as the child ...

    I did not initially see part of what Bobby was saying. Yes, "Attending the classroom may help equip parents with useful tools as well as the child". If the parent is willing to go in with an open mind. Again, the comparison to how things work in Asian countries is a difficult comparison to make. From what I have read of international comparison studies, Asian parents are likely already familiar with multiple methods to get something across, for one.

    Well, this has been a long response, and with all the different directions the discussion has been going, I didn't see a neat way to organize things in my responses. So, I'll stop for now.
    4537) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1189509)
    Posted 28 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes. Please Mr. Sarge(E4 likely)

    Not likely.
    4538) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1188952)
    Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dullnando is good. Real good.
    If he keeps calling Obama the Messiah, people will start to believe him.
    So get 'er done, Dullnando. You go, boy. Make all us Americans fall sway to your hypnofrog. Charm us into believing Obama's HessiahHood.
    4539) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1188950)
    Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A lawyer utilization tax. How does that sound to you all?

    Perhaps the "john" and the "lady" could both be taxed (said with only about 5% humor).
    4540) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1188932)
    Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Agreed, though it might surprise you how small a proportion of health care system costs are in lawsuit and malpractice payments. Then again, the threat of those suits makes for a lot of costly and unneeded defensive medicine.

    But if we reverted to the European system -- we'd have an unemployment problem -- a quarter of a million lawyers (and their staffs), plus even more medical insurance industry people. And virtually all of them are private sector -- we can't eliminate those folks, that would be socialism <smile>



    Europe does not have an American legal system that must assign blame and $$$ to every act of God that goes wrong in treatment. If it did their medical costs might be more than those in the USA.

    It isn't just the medical system that needs to be changed, but the you legal and malpractice systems too.




    You mean the only cases they can defend in are malpractice cases? Well, that's their fault for over-specializing.
    Besides, I think the only ones that love lawyers are lawyers.
    Hence, the Jackson Browne tune, "Lawyers in Love."
    4541) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1188931)
    Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Europe's health care model is demonstrably more cost effective than the US.

    You have a apples to brussels sprouts comparison going on.

    Europe does not have an American legal system that must assign blame and $$$ to every act of God that goes wrong in treatment. If it did their medical costs might be more than those in the USA.

    It isn't just the medical system that needs to be changed, but the you legal and malpractice systems too.



    To that I say, good luck. Re: similar to discussion of changes of labor laws from about a week ago ... the woman fired for continuing to do work even though she'd clocked out for lunch.
    So, any ideas on a more fair and balanced set of labor laws? (Fair/balanced for both workers and owners/bosses.)
    Ideas for fixing the legal system?
    4542) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1188927)
    Posted 27 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what type of evidence would you suggest be used in defense of a position?

    Sigh. I have said before and I'll say it again. This is a discussion forum, it is not a court of law. I'm not the accused in the dock, there is no Judge and Jury, and you are not the barrister for the prosecution. It is absolutely ridiculous that no-one is allowed to have free speech around here, without every sentence having to be justified by scientific analysis and systematically collected data to your personal satisfaction.

    Opinions, thoughts, feelings, ideas, are not allowed in the court of Bobby, unless they are prefaced with a description of exactly what they are beforehand. If I held discussions like that in real life, I'd end up with no friends at all, or a punch on the nose, and probably both.

    Your constant use of anecdotes to justify a position is frustrating

    My occasional use of those is intended to give a wider panorama upon the topic in discussion, and no more frustrating than your constant attempts to undermine anyones contribution.

    As for patronizing, the repeated references to how things were done in the 50s is not? If not, why not?

    You are clearly of a younger age group than me, and I would have thought you would have been grateful to learn of others experiences in a time when you weren't around, and things did work better. That might give you food for thought on how to change and improve the current situation.

    It is my opinion that idle speculation is frequently the product an idle mind.

    I expect that was aimed at me, and a poor attempt at a personal insult. I actually wish I had some more free time to be idle, perhaps you could let me know at some point how you manage to do it, I'd be most grateful.

    My question, which also seems to have escaped you, is "Why should children not be given the same protection from assault that adults expect?". I believe that it is currently unanswered

    Using a slap or the slipper, as a mild admonishment to instil acceptable behaviour in a child is not assault. If you were to hit someone in the street and break their jaw, that would be classed as assault, and quite rightly you would end up in court charged with GBH. This link might be helpful. Childrens law.

    as it likely demonstrates a fallacious appeal to authority.

    Well I'll let that one ride, I expect most others will be as nonplussed as I am.

    I'm most intrigued by your choice of avatar. But then again as Hank Hill regularly observes "That boy ain't right."


    As I watch this, Chris and John, what comes to mind is that the two of you and I initially did not get along, either. Yet I consider the two of you good friends here on the S@H forums, and though it's been a while, discussions on Skype calls were great, too.
    I also consider bobby a friend.
    Currently, if i am not busy, I am often tired and so do not post as much.
    But, I feel that, given time to respond, I might be able to bolster at least some of Bobby's points, or at least also help in providing wider perspective. I might also have some bits bolstering your side, as well.
    Could you gents call a truce for a bit, maybe give me 1 or 2 days for me to get work done, rest, re-read some posts and then give my anecdotes and knowledge?
    4543) Message boards : Politics : Thank You Mitt for paying $6.2 MILLION Taxes last 2 years (Message 1188316)
    Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's always been fashionable to suggest and proselytize that someone else should pay more taxes.

    I am somewhat surprised that Americans would accept a graduated income tax to begin with. This may not be equitable but might be just and perhaps half fair.

    That means that the rich will pay not only more but also a higher percentage of their income. The rich do not get any more out of the federal government than the poor, probably less. If they pay a lower percentage on Capital Gains it is because that money has already been taxed at the 35% corporate rate. This promotes Capitalism which is (was??) the foundation of our society. Now suggesting that the upper 3% who pay 60% of the taxes should pay more to subsidize the 50% of us whom are freeloaders is blatant class envy if not outright warfare. How much do you want them to pay ??

    Perhaps there should be a flat tax in the sense that everyone's share of the budget be the same, rich or poor. So your share of the load might be $15,000 each year. The 50% of the population that pays no taxes currently would be financially embarrassed.

    15% of 50 million is 7.5 million.

    35% of 100,000 is 35,000

    Let Buffet's secretary match his tax bill, penny for penny, and then I will no longer be outraged at what is being fed about "fair share" to us ignorant Americans.


    Wait. You do, or do not, like proportions?
    4544) Message boards : Politics : Getting excited about 12/21! (Message 1188308)
    Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Me thinks someone was trying to be cute. And failed.

    Look to the flag.
    4545) Message boards : Politics : More proof the US Constitution is not being followed by the US Govt. (Message 1188176)
    Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So let's see how far out that small twig you can go. Sen. Snort holds up the bank to get cash to get to Washington DC for a session.

    And I thought some scenarios went out on a limn to help me illustrate a point.
    Ummm ... which Senator is Snort so that Snort is too poor to get to a session in DC these days?
    4546) Message boards : Politics : Thank You Mitt for paying $6.2 MILLION Taxes last 2 years (Message 1188174)
    Posted 25 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Obamas for paying 25%.
    And, for equal time in a fashion Rush Limbaugh fails to understand, thank you Gingrinches for paying 35%.
    4547) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1188083)
    Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dang it. Skil, I warned you not to hack Gary's account. Now people are going to be very confused, seeing avowed Libertarians infighting.


    Sewer Service: I pay a private, non-government company for my sewer service.

    And not a foot of that sewer line runs in government land or discharges a drop into government property.
    Water Service: Same. I pay a private company.

    And not a foot of that water line runs in government land. Not a drop of that water came via a government project or managed by a government water basin manager.
    Same with trash service. Direct business relationship with a private company.

    Notice I didn't list trash, but I bet they use a government road to haul it away. Wonder if they dump it in a municipal dump?
    Food: I have over a week's worth of food in my home, and no real reason to leave for the next week (I usually go shopping only about once every two weeks or so, and rarely leave my house otherwise). Besides, the street outside my house is privately owned, not public, and there is a grocery store at the end of it.

    Wonder how the store is going to restock ... or is it just past the end of the private road, which will be blocked so you can't get to the public government road.
    Bills: They are all paid for the next two weeks.

    Good for you and I bet you don't get a paycheck either.
    Easements: they are not government property, but private property. An easement is just permission from the private property owner to another private entity to run a certain thing through the property along a certain path. The property is still owned by the initial owner.

    Precisely. The government owns the street all your utilities either run down or cross somewhere, so they grant an easement to the utility company.
    My electricity and internet come to me via private business arrangements with private businesses.

    Really? Are you sure your private utility company generates every electron, or do they buy power from government generators?

    How can you get internet without using IP? After all IP is a government invention.
    The only government involvement is through setting rates. If the PUC goes away, and I cannot negotiate a rate I am willing to pay with those private businesses, I will disconnect service. Simple as that.
    Cell phone: I don't currently use a cell phone, nor do I have one active at the moment.

    I rarely use local government services.

    You use them every day, you are just so stupid that you don't realize it or intentionally want to deceive yourself into believing that you don't. Your precious faux news wouldn't exist without the FCC.
    Never had to call the police or fire dept. in the 15 years I have lived here. State governmental services? Some use, but meaningless over the week in question. Federal services: well, aside from the continuous services like military protection, I don't use much, if any. But, I do still pay my taxes (all levels), and receive zero in 'government benefits' wealth transfer payments. Effectively, I 'put up' YEARS ago.

    I chose where I live very carefully.

    Going a week without voluntarily making direct use of government services would not inconvenience me at all. How about you? You say the same?

    4548) Message boards : Politics : More proof the US Constitution is not being followed by the US Govt. (Message 1188082)
    Posted 24 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regardless of all the points made, ANY politican should not be hindered during parlimentary/congressional meeting....including travelling to/from

    ...if they are...

    ..then that road leads to dictatorship...

    DIDN'T the US go to war to remove one?

    Or did I imagine it?


    The dictatorship of WMDs?
    4549) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186996)
    Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-Gary, if you are telling us it is you that bid on it ... . Well, I neither envy your acquisition nor, well, fill in the blank with any positive or negative statement you wish. It simply is: you now possess it.
    4550) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1186990)
    Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, there likely is ethanol used in potato chip production, especially in the flavoring agents.

    Major, well, without even looking, I suggested it would be found in the additional flavoring. It sounds you're just telling me I guessed correctly?
    4551) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186984)
    Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He does care about the thread but it is obvious the 1% are beyond imagining how they live.


    Huh?

    Did you mean that we (99%) can't imagine how the 1% lives?? Or, did you mean that the 1% can't imagine how they themselves live? Or something else entirely?

    Also, talk about yourself in the 2nd/3rd person much? <grin>


    :), Major.
    Gary: c'mon. C'MOOON! Really? Basic claim is, what, they work really hard, and can perhaps invest in something that may ultimately benefit a lot of people?
    Hmmm. Sometimes that works, sometimes it does not.
    Given that so many people posting here have so much time to post, I could suggest that NONE of us here is among the 1%. Would that be right. Maybe. Maybe not.
    And the remaining 99% ... what ... doesn't work hard, or doesn't work smart? Generalizations much?
    In a few more minutes, I'll go back to working (hard or smart) ... to finish a project that, when done, will bring me an extra $4000. Does this tell you anything? Or not? (The very fact that I was sought out to be part of it might at least say something, imho.)
    4552) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1186976)
    Posted 21 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Sarge, you may be part of the problem.[/quote[
    I have made a claim, and I provided a link (or links) to support my claim.
    I do not teach any subject except math.
    You chose ot ignore the rest of my post.
    Clearly, you try to make a point I already made, ignore that I am making it, and suggest I am part of the problem? You are incorrect.
    If I am incorrect about phonics, which is outside my area, that is not surprising, and besides giving me your word, it is on you to back it up.
    4553) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186911)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thus, the price increases we have seen of late have ...

    Bread: up 88 cents to 99 cents. Happened a few months ago.
    Gas, down, 50 cents to nearly a dollar, in about 6 months.
    Beer: up $0.75 to $1.00, per pint, for a certain well known, commonly consumed in the US, but still kind of cheap brand. Time frame? 10-14 years. (That is, out on the town, not when purchased for home consumption.)
    4554) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1186899)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If corporations are people, were the bailouts pro-life?
    Or, is it more like "end of life decisions. Probably doctors' violations of DNR orders"?
    4555) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1186898)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If corporations are people, at what point does people life begin for the corporation?
    4556) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1186897)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not entirely sure how corn ethanol gets into "Potato" chips or Diesel fuel. Diesel can use Ethanol because it burns to easily. It would cause massive preignition.
    Business doesn't run that way. Big Business certainly does. They are to big to fail. They own every facet of common foods we purchase in stores. We don't have much alternative so they are guaranteed to succeed. Basically, when 2-5 companies own all the major food processing plants in a country you can see how collusion and greed can easily manipulate prices.


    you and I do not own or work at a place involved in the production of potato chips. nonetheless, rather than react as you did, I did this:

    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AiK_BmXMmNfzpWlUi4LHKi.bvZx4?p=ethanol+in+%22potato+chips%22&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-374

    Lo and behold, more than one website mentioning there's ethanol in potato chips.
    Veracity? I don't know.
    But potato chips are obviously not just potatoes. Some are flavored to tatse like they have onion dip on them (when they do not), or barbeque sauce, and so o.
    4557) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186893)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good to hear that Major, I have also donated to Kittymans shelter twice. But we had better leave animal welfare to another thread, as that was not what Gary had in mind when he started this.

    It's about how the 1% live and deal with others, including cats; conversely, how the 99% live and deal with others, also including cats.
    For Major's sake, I will step in and be BarryAZ a moment, speaking for Gary: "I doubt Gary cares as much about this thread." :)
    4558) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186890)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know I didn't help very *many* cats, but the ones I did help lived long, happy lives and due to the 'fixing' didn't add to the problem. I have also donated some money towards a couple of 'catch em and fix em' programs over the years.

    What is the more compassionate way to deal with the feral cat problem? Feed them and let them remain wild and free? Or, catch a few and keep them as pets? Up to the individual, I suppose.


    I completely agree, and I plan to catch one of the kittens. (The group here is far smaller than what you describe, but there are more, of different groups, spread out over a several block radius here.0

    but ... even though I can pet and pick up the mother, the kittens are about5-6 months old and still skittish. I can pet them as they eat, sometimes. 1/2 the time, they scoot away. I have picked both kittens up once or twice, and one of those time got a bloody palm for it, lol! (Two other kittens apparently did not survive very long.)
    4559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1186853)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So are these, to a point...

    Do those come in thigh-highs? (he asks innocently)

    Probably not, their womens Colonial combat boots, of course their replicas of what was used on the TV show...

    4560) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186843)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah Sarge, it was a joke -- remember, my wife is a trained psychiatrist/psychoanalyst. <smile>.

    Forgot, though you've elaborated more here than i've noted before.

    I was hoping that Major would take the bait end talk about the Austrian school of economics. He did.

    I was not seeking to be part of baiting.
    Gary brought up education, and I responded.
    4561) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186822)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There you go -- but go back a ways -- back to Freud -- remember earlier in this thread the mention of the Austrian economy -- well Freud was Vienese. Just sayin'




    Roughly speaking, new teaching methods followed from new theories in psychology. I am pretty sure we can look back to around 1920 or 1930 to be the time when this began. Dewey being one proponent.



    But Freud was more about therapy/meeting of psychology and psychiatry. I refer to things such as behaviorism, followed by cognitive science ... .
    4562) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186811)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    “How could anyone sleep soundly knowing their neighbours were awake, in pain, and hungry in the house next door?”


    I spend $60 a month feeding feral cats.

    If I were to instead give this to someone as described in above quote, they would take the $60 bucks and go buy a carton of cigs. Or as many packs as 60 bucks can buy.

    The people I've encountered who are down on their luck, before anything else-food or shelter-will make sure they have their cigs.

    Frak 'em.

    Feed the kitties. Frak the humans.

    SleepingSoundlyDullnando


    Nope, i bought my food first.
    And you obviously don't know how to shop for food for feral kitties. I'm feeding feral kitties, quite well, for far less. Didn't your Depression Era grandparents teach you anything?
    4563) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186671)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As Sarah Palin would ask, how is that post communist crony capitalism working out for the Russians now?


    Socialism is what's unfair since the industrious have to carry the indolent on their backs. Ask the Russians about this.




    Well, I know the Russians have been protesting Putin, so ... ?
    4564) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186669)
    Posted 20 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regarding manufacturing jobs -- So it was new math that caused globalization? I suspect we both might be simplifying cause and effect here.

    Twasn't just new math, but it is about that time schools began to experiment with different teaching methods. Some worked, some failed. Overall however I think they had a decline in the student being ready at graduation to earn a living. I'm sure other factors were at work too. Perhaps in a hundred years or so they will call that the beginning of the silicon era.

    Roughly speaking, new teaching methods followed from new theories in psychology. I am pretty sure we can look back to around 1920 or 1930 to be the time when this began. Dewey being one proponent.
    More specifically to the mathematics, as I said, "new math", following Sputnik, was not nationwide. "Back to Basics" soon followed, and was nationwide. I am a product of it, and yet I know it did not work for all.
    4565) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186593)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major, your initial impression was the one i had and, I believe, the one most intended. I say this because, one, I'm not as far from you geographically as I once was. So I am learning a little about culture in a new part of the country. Second, I got that link from a band I have some loose connections with. The singer is either from the US or Canada, but the rest of his bandmates are Mexican.
    4566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer Drinkers thread part 5 (Message 1186590)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I read this thread and now I need a beer.
    4567) Message boards : Politics : Getting excited about 12/21! (Message 1186589)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice play on words, Barry.
    Though, since Qui-Gon started the thread, I'd like to know his take on Nostradamus and why he believes Michel de Nostre Dame did say something about 2012. (Something I've only heard for about 2-3 years. Previously, they were touting that Nostradamus predicted the world, or humanity, would last until 3757. Now there are all these shows claiming that many cultures have ancient predictions coinciding with the Mayan 2012 "prediction", and that Nostradamus predicted something about 2012. I say it sounds like a lot of bunk, to change the story now.)
    4568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh, Amazon (Message 1186573)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you taunt me so.



    :D


    Yes, you would be rather Amazonian in those shoes.
    4569) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186565)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The problem has already been dealt with, despite the AARP. SS COLAs have been indexed to the CPI. No inflation, no COLA. Previous 2 years, SS has received no COLA, and this year they only got a very TINY one.

    I'm going to say that you don't know how the SS COLA works.

    Yes, for a couple years no COLA was given. However this year the COLA given was much bigger than last years inflation! Know why?

    And just because the last couple of years we didn't have a SS COLA does not mean it has been dealt with. I'm worried about the US Greenback achieving parity with the Zimbabwean dollar before I an eligible for SS.


    How COLA works depends on if it is Coca or Pepsi.
    One makes you pee more.
    4570) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186564)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As to your second question... I got no idea... I guess we really *are* just a bunch of kooky old geezers with a heck-busted ideal or two... Maybe the party you were discussing, being a bunch of fired up young'uns, can break away from its parent party (the same one we broke away from about 40 years ago), and make a go of it. We are likely a bit too... out of touch... and maybe they aren't... I dunno.

    They don't look like young'uns to me. Not a one of 'em.
    4571) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186563)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The loss of industrial jobs started about the same time as the first batch of "new math" kids entered the work force. I know that the populace does not have the work ethic necessary to reindusteralize the USA. The typical USA worker is soft and believes he is owed a living because he is from the USA.

    "New Math" = response to USSR launch of Sputnik. Did not even get used in the entire US. Over before I entered elementary school. Paid no attention to the how we learn. Tried to simply turn all little kids into little Bourbakis. Don't know what Bourbaki is? Look it up.
    4572) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186560)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Furthermore, I have noticed BarryAZ, that you seem to be trying to speak for Gary... rather frequently... of late. If Gary has a problem in his thread, surely he can handle it himself... Or is there some arrangement between the two of you that I am unaware of?

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66505&nowrap=true#1186315 was posted by Gary Charpentier, not BarryAZ. Perhaps the rhyming first names is getting confusing?
    4573) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186557)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only way you learn is by failure, getting back and trying something different. American schools have taken that away. We are too soft.

    Tell that to the kids/young adults I give failing grades to.
    4574) Message boards : Politics : Getting excited about 12/21! (Message 1186530)
    Posted 19 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    19 down, only 337 to go......

    Personally, I'm looking forward to D-Day +1


    (There's no Nostradamian confluence with the Mayan calendar. No other culture talked about 2012. The media is lying to you.)
    4575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is it going to be so, or............... (Message 1186361)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Make it so? Number 1, ENGAGE!
    4576) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186340)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Democrats tend to favor the poor, the minorities, the labor unions, the environmentalists, and oppose business interests.

    (That are outside, the interests of the business dude and dudettes that funnel them cash.)
    4577) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186330)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4) In some countries, tax evasion -- perhaps much worse in the US where the tax structure encourages tax avoidance versus tax evasion.


    4) I don't know about how true this one is.


    Anecdote: I've heard of at least two British musicians that set up legal residence elsewhere, such as a hop over to Ireland, to evade the main part of the UKs higher taxes. I cannot remember both names. The one I recall is Joe Elliott, singer for Def Leppard.
    4578) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186198)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Biggest problem aside from the Ponzi aspects is that those paying in in the future are far fewer in number due to a drastic drop in fertility (# of children per couple).

    probably need to :

    Raise the retirement age to 68
    Eliminate payments to children if a spouse dies at any age unless need can be established
    Create a needs test for those wealthy individuals.


    Best bet is to wean us off of socialist security. Those 55 and under would go into their own retirement plan that would build equity. If we can cover the one-time hit to cut off the incoming money from these folks and to give them what they have paid in plus interest into their retirement accounts, then we should do it. Of course those older people will need to keep getting paid so the money for that would also be a big one-time hit as well.


    My father is 71 and will be retiring in 2013.
    4579) Message boards : Politics : Getting excited about 12/21! (Message 1186197)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nostradamus predicted my bowel movements on that day.

    Rivers of pestilence shall flow
    The white whirlpool shall be befoul
    Foul wave shall pass from room to room
    Families shall be shaken asunder.



    And thou shalt poot and toot until the year 3757? (There's no Nostradamian confluence with the Mayan calendar. No other culture talked about 2012. The media is lying to you.)
    4580) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1186084)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How can the company prove it didn't pressure her? Nearly every place has a get the work done or your fired policy. There is the pressure.

    In this case, they have her statement that she was not pressured.
    In general? Suppose much of the communication is by e-mail: I imagine enough unscrupulous employers/supervisors (where they exist .. not to say all of them are) would be careless enough to accidentally put such pressure in an e-mail.
    Hmmm, what else? Would it be legal to place a webcam near a time clock? If so, if the pressure to work during a break occurs right around the time of clocking out, the supervisor would ve caught. So and so forth.
    4581) Message boards : Politics : Getting excited about 12/21! (Message 1186078)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I sure am looking forward to the December date. If the predictions are right, there will be a change associate with that date. We may notice it or we may not, but looking back, it could very well look like something momentous took place. This same phenomenon might explain the uncanny predictions of Nostradamus.

    Knightmare, you have returned, as Qui-Gon?
    4582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 23 things every adult knows (Message 1186077)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Socrates comes to mind.
    Or Sergeant Schultz.
    4583) Message boards : Politics : USA Bankrupt (Message 1186073)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not that it matters much, but this is the second time I've seen it spelled Rockafeller. The other time was a few weeks ago on a local TV news broadcast. WTH? Is it going to be -Rock-a-fella next? (I envision John swaying his hips along with Elvis in a video. "Moves Like Rock-a-Fella", a la Maroon Five, anyone? LOL!) Last time i double-checked (only to be extra sure tt was not me in error), the family name (and the buildings in the NYC area named after them), it's Rockefeller.
    4584) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1186069)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Is this on topic?


    ROFL

    Good one, Sarge!


    I believe multiple meanings were intended.
    4585) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1186066)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On the matter of parental admittance to class rooms, if it is effective in the Far East, and it helps the parents help their children, I'm not entirely convinced the idea is without merit. As Sarge points out, there's often more than one approach to teaching, even in subjects such as mathematics, and a parent who has been taught one way may not be equipped to assist their child if s/he is being taught in a different way. Attending the classroom may help equip parents with useful tools as well as the child ...


    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=handbook+of+research+in+mathematics+education&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C6&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22liping+ma%22&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1%2C6&as_sdtp=on

    Teacher preparation in Asian countries is different. The opportunities for newer teachers to confer with "master" teachers in Asian countries is different. I'd perhaps go so far as to say that Asian parents are different from Western parents, as well. I think the parental involvement there, as claimed here, might be overstated. Trying to translate their approaches over to the West, as a whole, is not easily achieved. And people like Dena might claim, when we attempt to include at least some of the Asian approaches here in terms of teacher preparation programs, then they're "untested", because that's not how it has been done before in the US.
    4586) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1186055)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With only 11 posts in this thread so far, there is still so much to respond to. Unfortunately, I'm a 99%er, who actually worked through his break between semesters and am tired as the new semester begins. So, I'll just ... start? ... with this.

    When I was in school, I was the product of some of the educational fads (no parent involvement and no Phonics). As the results, it always seemed like I was a year or two behind. I know what I am talking about and it's good to see that others are making the right decision in education.


    Pardon me, Dena. but I've pointed this out to you before and apparently you've forgotten or chosen to ignore it. Regarding "Phonics", first, apparently the program began in the 1980s and widely "marketed" in the early 1990s. That corresponds to my memories of when I first heard of it. That means I was finishing my BA or working on my MS. From your posts, I can reasonably surmise you are at least as old as me, perhaps even in your 50s. Thus, of course you received no Phonics! Second, as I told you before, it was quickly maligned. See the picture of the bumper sticker shown at http://www.zazzle.com/hooked_on_phonics_joke_bumper_sticker-128284086582077834. Unfortunately, I must point out that, except for the post of yours I am responding to, the spelling errors you make seem to fit the mold suggested in the catchphrase illuminated in the bumper sticker. Odd, since Phonics was not available to you as an elementary student (again, because it did not exist yet).
    So far, I have not tracked down any indications of studies performed to test the program.
    On the other hand, I do know of many many many educational studies that have taken place. I have assisted in, or performed, some myself. Frankly, you sound like someone complaining about "untested" educational ideas that came out of Chicago around the 1920s, but, guess what, that was about 90 years ago. Do you really think no testing of these ideas have occurred? That there has been no modification in theory? If so, you are sorely mistaken. You are also sorely mistaken when you claim that there is "no oversight of the 'professionals'".

    Think of the value you would least like to have your child taught. How would you feel if they started teaching it to your child without telling you about it and without letting you check on the class room progress. This is why you must take a very active role in you child's education.


    This has virtually nothing to do with the issue Chris raised. You ignore the influence of parents and peers on values, as if the child has a mind and soul that is "full of mush" (Limbaugh misquote) ready for the teacher to fill with "values" (as opposed to facts, concepts, and so on?) in a ... vacuum? Sorry, don't buy it.
    Last, I pretty much agree with Chris. If I was teaching at that level instead of at a university, I can imagine a parent going berserk over my showing a different approach to multiplying whole numbers ... simply because, to the parent, "that's not the way *I* learned it". The standard/traditional algorithm used in the US is not the same as what is used elsewhere, and probably has only been around 100-200 years. It is correct, has its pros and cons, and should not be eliminated from the curriculum. But, if there's another good algorithm (one that works in all cases, is justified, etc. ...), there's nothing wrong with including it. And I would not be surprised if I could find studies checking how well children learn whole number multiplication when using the "Lattice Algorithm" (hopefully as one option, not forced as the only approach).

    P.S.-I was present when a math education professor asked a group of math grad students that were generally only interested in math, not the teaching and learning of it, whether the answer to something such as such as (5/72) divided by (15/108) could be determined by finding a least common multiple. They either said no or were very uncertain, much like elementary and second teachers I have read about.

    But it can be: 5/72 = 15/216 and 15/108 = 30/216. 15/30 = 1/2.
    The answer is the same with the method most of us "older" folk in the US have learned, invert the second fraction and multiply (which will be easier if common factors of the numerator and denominators are canceled first): (5/72) * (108/15) = (1/2) * (3/3) = (1/2) * (1/1) = 1/2.
    There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches, but both are mathematically sound. Completely.
    4587) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1186052)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-$375,000 pay for speaking in one year is "not that much".
    4588) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1186051)
    Posted 18 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://gma.yahoo.com/chicago-woman-fired-doing-lunch-wins-unemployment-claim-145926016--abc-news.html
    Punishing good workers?

    Required by law.

    Just having some training in the subject, the company is required to pay overtime to the worker if they work at lunch. The law does not permit them to voluntarily do work. If the company is unaware of this lunch work, it does not relieve them of having to pay overtime for it. If they don't pay the worker at the end of the pay period then they are subject to fines, big fines. Of course they have to pay what should have been paid, plus interest and a daily fine for being late. There is no cap on the fine nor time period for the worker to complain. So if a few years pass the daily fine can run into the billions of dollars. What do you do if an employee subjects your company to potential fines of billions of dollars?


    In response to you, Gary, and Major, then I suggest modification to the laws.
    Not that companies should not have to provide break times. But that the company not be held liable when, first, it can be demonstrated that she indeed clocked out and, two, she was not forced by any superior to work during the time she was clocked out. The way things ought to be ... ? With some such modification of the laws, the company is not at fault for anything because she was offered her lunch time, they did not force her to work during that time, so no wrongdoing on the part of the company, hence no liability/no fines. Hence, not being in danger of fines, instead they could have done what makes sense: reprimand her, not go so far as fire her.
    4589) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1185986)
    Posted 17 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, it the case of the Brazilian spill, it is more a case of politics and an effort by the Brazilian national oil company to maintain its hold. The spill was actually quite small (several thousand barrels, not millions as in the Gulf). Further, the systems worked there (those that failed badly in the US spill. Also, the company involved was very open about the spill.

    I'm all for accountability -- but in this case the Brazilians were/are playing games.

    As to the US -- well there are billions of dollars which were agreed to.

    On the other hand, if corporations are people too (Romney and 5 justices on the Supreme court agree), then for the US, a money settlement seems the civil action. How about the criminal action -- after all, there were deaths -- I wonder, given that corporations are people, what the penalty for a corporation is for manslaughter?



    Speaking of lawsuits, Brazilians charge Big Oil for spill...why didn't we?. What do you think?



    The premise of what is discussed in the vid, IIRC, is that is what political theater that took place here in the US. So, how is Brazil playing the political games instead? Also, again IIRC, the vid indicated lack of openess on the part of the oil company in the Brazilian spill as well. If so, what evidence do you have this is not the case?
    4590) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1185985)
    Posted 17 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://gma.yahoo.com/chicago-woman-fired-doing-lunch-wins-unemployment-claim-145926016--abc-news.html
    Punishing good workers?
    4591) Message boards : Politics : How the 1% live (Message 1185977)
    Posted 17 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having the money to bid on this

    with its $720,000.00 reserve price
    and knowing it will sell a lot above the reserve ... and have cash left over to pick up a few more from the show.
    http://theautry.org/masters-of-the-american-west-2012/silent-bid


    Is this on topic?
    4592) Message boards : Politics : Closing the Department of Commerce. (Message 1185875)
    Posted 17 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's the Committee chairmen and the oversight committees in Congress that will fight to

    "Fight to ..." what?
    4593) Message boards : Politics : Parents role in Education ? (Message 1185035)
    Posted 13 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The moment they try and hide stuff from inspection, you know there is a rotten apple in the barrel and they know it too are are conspiring to hide it which is worse.

    That's really unfair of you to call Chris a rotten apple.
    4594) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1184469)
    Posted 11 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org/2011/12/most-ridiculous-lawsuit-of-2011-announced/

    In the two thousand twelfth year of our Lord, amen.


    Speaking of lawsuits, Brazilians charge Big Oil for spill...why didn't we?. What do you think?
    4595) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1182828)
    Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But then there is the ugly mix of class warfare where there is resentment against the upper classes (financially speaking) for having been successful.

    If, in 10-20 years, we find the younger people of the group having morphed into something like the yippies of the 70s and 80s, your point will lhave been borne out. I, however, believe that at least some of them do not covet, but rather are against the excesses.
    4596) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1182826)
    Posted 4 Jan 2012 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org/2011/12/most-ridiculous-lawsuit-of-2011-announced/

    While different, I guess this falls under who and what is, in part, to blame.
    I think we all have pieces of the picture. I wish we could all deal with each other positively, get together, and come up with some good ideas.
    4597) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1181523)
    Posted 30 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heck, yeah, we're going to find out if "The Big Splat Theory" might be correct! GOOO NASA!
    4598) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1181522)
    Posted 30 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you live in a rundown house or mobile home, that is YOUR FAULT, not theirs.

    So, a child growing up with parents that live in a mobile home ... the child is to blame?

    They are willing to work 60-80 hrs. a week to achieve the goals they have set.

    Do we have PROOF they really work that long?
    How many hours a week do *I* work, hmmm?

    Those of you that I mentioned above, work your 40 hrs. a week and set on the couch drinking beer and watching sports on your bigscreen t.v.

    You're the one with the picture next to your screen name that is of a football helmet. Not me.

    If you are really upset with the successful people in this world, don't sit around complaining about it, go out and change it. Make yourself one of the successful. Or would you rather not give up your spot on the couch?

    You mistake discussing a problem and possible solutions with inaction.
    4599) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1181204)
    Posted 28 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The natural state of the universe is constant change. What is good? What is the truth? The concept of "good" and "truth" change and have opposite meanings at different times. There is no such thing as one correct and obsolute viewpoint.

    P.S.-I did not expect your opening paragraph from you. Since my junior year of college, I have believed myself to be mostly a pragmatist. But though there is some shifting in what is considered good and true as time passes, these concepts are not in complete random flux. We can trace our beliefs, laws we set up and follow, back thousands of years, to things such as the Hammurabi code. Perhaps more importantly, haven't researchers even found certain things about ethics are hardwired into us?
    4600) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1181202)
    Posted 28 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The natural state of the universe is constant change. What is good? What is the truth? The concept of "good" and "truth" change and have opposite meanings at different times. There is no such thing as one correct and obsolute viewpoint.

    History marches forward despite our efforts to improve ourselves as a society. In recent times, we've added another class of people as we try to grasp that which is beyond our control--we have the poor class, the middle class and the rich class. For reasons of nature, we are born, we are raised, and we are taught to be in one of the above classes and to perpetuate it. By nature, the rich class exploits the middle class and the middle class exploits the poor class.

    What is success? There are some who define success as having found a suitable mate, one hot meal per day, a comfortable place to sleep, and one child. There are others who define success as becoming supreme ruler of the universe. Who's to decide what success is to each and everyone?

    Who's to blame? No one... Every one...


    If you mean the "midd;e c;ass" as being recently created, well, I think we could say then that recent is as little as 250 years and as much as 600-700 years. Bu the latter, without looking up specific years, I am referring, for example, to Italy in Renaissance times. Thus, I would say that the "middle class" was not "created" but arose as a natural consequence of such events. However, I feel, as I said a few months back, that we are "serfin' the waves of medieval times" lately, and this corresponds to one of your points. With the upper class exploiting the middle class, we are being squeezed, and I wonder if eventually we will be serfs again?
    4601) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1180670)
    Posted 25 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just to reboot the discussion, I'd say the answer is now clear. The advertisers are to blame: http://www.orderforeverlazy.com.
    4602) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1177399)
    Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for keeping the discussion going, folks, during a very busy time for me.
    4603) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1177398)
    Posted 12 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.ehow.com/about_5413083_history-bank-deregulation.html
    Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980
    The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 (DIDMCA) abolished state caps on interest rates that could be charged for primary mortgages, giving banks the incentive to approve mortgages for people with problematic credit histories. Banks made more money by charging higher rates to riskier customers, and a broader range of people were able to purchase homes.


    Yet, Gary, you have often stated the problems with mortgages began during the Clinton administration? I didn't realize Clinton had begun his terms as early as 1980! I could have sworn it was Reagan. And looking at the other things listed at the site I link to and quote, more deregulation took place during the 1980s. Some during the 1990s is also listed. (1994-1999. Republican Revolution, COntract with America?)


    While Reagan won the 1980 Presidential election, he was not in office until January 20th 1981, thus the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 was signed into law by his predecessor, Jimmy Carter.


    Ouch. You're correct, Bobby. You caught me in an error I generally point out to others. :(
    4604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1175788)
    Posted 5 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For love and forgiveness

    Missing my Dad


    Skil, if you find yourself "Wait[ing] for Sleep", perhaps you will find "Silent Lucidity" in it.
    And because you're a DT fan, it seems, here's "Trial of Tears" (live at Budokan).
    4605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1175273)
    Posted 3 Dec 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where Have All the Posters in this Thread Gone?
    4606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1174634)
    Posted 30 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to Old Yeller.
    4607) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1174082)
    Posted 27 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary Charpentier said in the UK Riots thread:
    The root cause of the riots is Madison Avenue. They have done such a fantastic job of creating demand that people who have no chance in life of owning an item now have a burning desire for it and feel entitled to have it. The result is criminality to obtain it to satisfy the false desire. Uh, is that like lying on a loan application to buy a house?

    Perhaps governments should prevent children under the age of 15 from watching the telly or at least advertiser supported telly. Same for the net, a no ads net for kids. Kids are not mature enough to resist the scientifically crafted ads aimed at them. Ask any parent near XMAS about their children screaming gimme gimme gimme! They feel entitled, when they are not. They carry this through life. Life is: "The survival of the fit." Not "The survival of the entitled."

    Sigh.
    4608) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1174081)
    Posted 27 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary Charpentier said in the UK Riots thread:
    The root cause of the riots is Madison Avenue. They have done such a fantastic job of creating demand that people who have no chance in life of owning an item now have a burning desire for it and feel entitled to have it. The result is criminality to obtain it to satisfy the false desire. Uh, is that like lying on a loan application to buy a house?

    Perhaps governments should prevent children under the age of 15 from watching the telly or at least advertiser supported telly. Same for the net, a no ads net for kids. Kids are not mature enough to resist the scientifically crafted ads aimed at them. Ask any parent near XMAS about their children screaming gimme gimme gimme! They feel entitled, when they are not. They carry this through life. Life is: "The survival of the fit." Not "The survival of the entitled."

    Sigh.
    4609) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173830)
    Posted 26 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What we need is a benevolent, all knowing dictator. They are few and far between, Lee Kwan You (Harry) in Singapore comes close as far as I know.


    I suspect you do not really mean that. Besudes ... "all knowing"? Dream on!
    4610) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173794)
    Posted 26 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We have pure socialist "economies" on this planet today. You likely can't name them however. Something to ponder.

    I put the word economies in quotes because the pure versions of them are so brilliantly successful that they don't even register in the scheme of this world.

    Where can you find them? Look in places like the Amazon for lost tribes, look to the South Pacific islands where the local language doesn't have a word for ownership or time. This is the best success of pure socialism on the planet.

    Is this what you pine for? Subsistence?

    The successful parts of the world are in part based on Capitalism.

    Capitalism is the worst form of economy except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.


    DO I personally pine for subsistence? No. I think you and I have some common ground. Did you not say something in the last few months about people being driven to buy things they do not really want or need all that much, and that one of the driving forces is external? Madison Avenue? How about capitalism based on legitimate wants and needs? Not produce whatever, convince people they need it, make them want it, etc. ... .
    4611) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173728)
    Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The definition of "Capitalism" doesn't have much to say about producing.
    It does say more about ownership of inputs.

    Ownership of inputs could just as easily be collective, and work just as well,
    if people just weren't so selfish.

    Capitalism only makes selfishness a defacto standard by way of the
    synthetic attribution of "First Ownership" and it's derivative of "Property Rights".

    In the "End" socialism "WILL" win!


    Whilst people feel they should be rewarded for their efforts through work then
    there will always be Capitalism present. Whilst people feel they should be
    rewarded through other peoples efforts and work then there will always be
    followers of Socialism. Presently this world can not survive on Socialism
    alone for it would just not pay the rent for most of us presently residing
    on this planet. Capitalism is an ability, Socialism is a belief and there is
    no way a belief can conquer an ability if most people wish they had this ability
    themselves. Communism tried it's hand at conquering this ability and in the
    end it totally failed.


    Where do you get that Socialism is being rewarded for other people's successes?
    From each ... to each ... .. I think your way is stretching it.
    4612) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173627)
    Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the "End" socialism "WILL" win!


    i should not have spoken such.

    to me,
    Socialism means the "broadest consensus".
    Capitalism means the "application of a force".

    Capital, especially money, is an artificial human construct.
    It's misuse has led to more grief than it is possible to convey.
    It's proper use could accelerate Human evolution irreversibly, unimaginably.
    A construct, an idea, could propel this planet's consciousness into forever.
    At some point we'll leave even the idea of "Capital" behind.
    We'll realize that "We" are our "Imagining". There will be no need for an intermediary, a capital, for our "Completion".

    Till that day arrives,
    find a sock,
    put some money in it,
    and remember where you hide "it".

    If you can do that,
    then the whole exercise becomes pointless,
    you are no longer part of the problem.

    The "Rest" will follow.


    I do no think many of us would subscribe to your definitions of capitalism and socialism.
    Knowing that communist thinkers placed a great deal of emphasis on how tool use allowed our minds to changed I wonder if any of them ever thought of capital ... money, as a tool which became not a means but an end?
    Anyway, on what do you base your belief that "proper use could accelerate Human evolution irreversibly."
    4613) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173626)
    Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But are you a capitalist? If so, what are you producing?


    We used to have a scary one around here ....


    Irrelevant.
    4614) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1173625)
    Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is epic. We now know which capitalists to exploit in order to pay our ways through life! :D

    Terry


    If you wish for an epic thread, post something serious.
    4615) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173624)
    Posted 25 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't do direct deposit -- then again, I'm self-employed <smile>.

    There are still fees for using ATM cards for cash -- under a number of scenarios.




    On a related note, I've been required to enroll in Direct Deposit since 2001, by 3 different employers. Required. What's up with that?


    Required huh? Perhaps because the bank your employer uses for payroll charges a fee to cash a check for a non-customer and that makes the use of that bank for payroll not legal. So if you don't do direct deposit they would have to pay you in cash to be legal. They don't want to handle cash ergo it is required. (Or they are to lazy to use e-verify but know you can't get a bank account without a valid SSN)

    What pisses me from my self employment days is the banks charging for cash deposits. Bring them money and they want 1% as a counting fee.


    Yes, required, bu a 1988 state law.
    Now, I recently heard or read somewhere that there were no bank failures from the 1930s to 1980s. Her'es some interesting things I found:

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5413083_history-bank-deregulation.html
    Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980
    The Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 (DIDMCA) abolished state caps on interest rates that could be charged for primary mortgages, giving banks the incentive to approve mortgages for people with problematic credit histories. Banks made more money by charging higher rates to riskier customers, and a broader range of people were able to purchase homes.


    Yet, Gary, you have often stated the problems with mortgages began during the Clinton administration? I didn't realize Clinton had begun his terms as early as 1980! I could have sworn it was Reagan. And looking at the other things listed at the site I link to and quote, more deregulation took place during the 1980s. Some during the 1990s is also listed. (1994-1999. Republican Revolution, COntract with America?)

    Perhaps because the bank your employer uses for payroll charges a fee to cash a check for a non-customer and that makes the use of that bank for payroll not legal.


    If I was given a check instead, and took it to the bank my employer cuts the checks with, then either:
    (1) The fee would be charged to me, or,
    (2) There would be no fee, because the check is with them, regardless of which bank or credit union I am with.
    At least, that's how I remember it working, when I received paper checks. And, besides my first one here, I do have not had a paper dcheck since 2001.

    Now, I wonder, knowing for a fact it was a state law passed in 1988, and bank deregulations began in the 1980s for the most part, if there is some connection.
    4616) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173288)
    Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Folks would get hit up with ATM fees and the banks would say thank you. Which side are you on? <smile>


    What would happen if a large number of ATM users withdrew $20, made a small purchase nearby, and then re-deposit the change (around $15) with a note included, along the lines of "We the people of the United States of America hereby request withdrawal amounts be returned to multiples of $5, with $5 as the minimum"?



    Our side?
    The People managed to get them to back off on debit card fees. Still, they're probably planning to drop some other shoe.

    On a related note, I've been required to enroll in Direct Deposit since 2001, by 3 different employers. Required. What's up with that?
    4617) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173265)
    Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What would happen if a large number of ATM users withdrew $20, made a small purchase nearby, and then re-deposit the change (around $15) with a note included, along the lines of "We the people of the United States of America hereby request withdrawal amounts be returned to multiples of $5, with $5 as the minimum"?
    4618) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173129)
    Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that a fair number of those college degrees are going to folks who get remedial education in college to compensate for a declining skill set when entering college.

    If you can provide more detail to support this, please do. But, in the situations I've been in, there are remedial math courses, but no one's going out to walk out of the college or university with a BA or BS in Mathematics or anything remotely related to that simply by catching up on high school level algebra. That is one way your opening paragraph can be read. If that's not what you meant, well, also consider that the people who are getting the remedial math then have to take another math class, and this in itself can add 1-2 more years to their "4 year" degree, either because they aren't trying hard enough the 1st or 2nd time around, or just really continue to not get it.

    You teach folks to 'run machines' as you say, and by the time they get to the work force, the 'machines' are something entirely different.

    Agreed.
    4619) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173126)
    Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now we are getting to the root cause of the problem in the USA.

    Contradicts your statement about Madison Avenue being the root of the problem. See my above post.

    I believe there is a saying: Those that can, do; those that can't, teach. Unfortunately it seems like they [collectively] can't teach either.

    Is there such a saying? Yes. So, you do not have to put the "I believe" part in front of "there is a saying."
    Is it correct? For a gentleman who can suggest/realize a matrix, not a continuum, is needed to explain where different systems of government are in relation to each other, but then just accept that saying uncritically amazes me.
    There is a scientist, I think his name is ... ummm, uhhh, oh! Eric Korpela! I see that he does some teaching. I guess he can't do, and none of us are crunching S@H workunits. :) Once you get past my sarcasm, I'm glad you'll realize the contradiction. And then you can work on finding more counterexamples to your saying's assertion.

    Some time ago it was decided that every kid was supposed to be on a college prep path.[/quote[
    Yes, roughly 16 years ago. Interestingly, what happened in 2001 that further propped that up, as perhaps the biggest federal government intervention in education, which the Constitution leaves to the state and local level? See a contradiction here? I think I do.

    [quote]Big mistake.

    Agreed.

    Now we have far too many with useless degrees of questionable quality ... .

    Agreed.

    It will take a couple of generations to sort this mess out.

    Maybe.
    4620) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1173123)
    Posted 23 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    f I get the gist of this, you are blaming your lack of success on those that are very successful.

    Then I guess you do not get the gist of it.

    If you live in a rundown house or mobile home, that is YOUR FAULT, not theirs. If you are driving a 1989 ford tempo, that is YOUR FAULT, not theirs..
    I certainly understand the fact that some people, due to physical or mental limitations, are limited in the options they have to obtain wealth. Luck is what happens to people that are willing to make plans and then carry them out. They are willing to work 60-80 hrs. a week to achieve the goals they have set.
    Those of you that I mentioned above, work your 40 hrs. a week and set on the couch drinking beer and watching sports on your bigscreen t.v.
    If you are really upset with the successful people in this world, don't sit around complaining about it, go out and change it. Make yourself one of the successful. Or would you rather not give up your spot on the couch?

    Guess you didn't read Es' post just before yours.
    Even some others that responded very early on said on the one hand "it's your fault" but then "conceded" our circumstances are chance ... accidental ... thus, contradicting the "it's your own fault" claim.

    Now, about this 1989 Ford Tempo ... . I learned from Depression era grandparents, and my parents, many lessons. One of them is not to covet. Another is to make things last as long as you can make them last. I do not desire your great car, and I suspect many of the Occupiers do not, either. You can keep it!

    But ... maybe you're caught up in this?
    Gary Charpentier said in the UK Riots thread:
    The root cause of the riots is Madison Avenue. They have done such a fantastic job of creating demand that people who have no chance in life of owning an item now have a burning desire for it and feel entitled to have it. The result is criminality to obtain it to satisfy the false desire. Uh, is that like lying on a loan application to buy a house?

    Perhaps governments should prevent children under the age of 15 from watching the telly or at least advertiser supported telly. Same for the net, a no ads net for kids. Kids are not mature enough to resist the scientifically crafted ads aimed at them. Ask any parent near XMAS about their children screaming gimme gimme gimme! They feel entitled, when they are not. They carry this through life. Life is: "The survival of the fit." Not "The survival of the entitled."

    Sigh.


    So, maybe we should occupy Madison Avenue, instead? Get them to stop advertising the things we do not want or need? Oh, wait. Wouldn't that still impact Wall Street, as less of what the traders invest in to be produced would be purchased, reducing the worth of their stock?
    4621) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1172009)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cap·i·tal·ist

    1. A supporter of capitalism.
    2. An investor of capital in business, especially one having a major financial interest in an important enterprise.
    3. A person of great wealth.

    You make the mistake of assuming that one who is a "Capitalist" actually produces anything.


    No, I do not make such a mistake. However, you're pointing out these three definitions greatly advances the purpose of this thread. And I do not accept any of these definitions except perhaps 2. The investor may not be the producer, but the investor may fund the producer/inventor.

    (Just like I do not accept the Supreme Court ruling that "Corporations are people.")
    4622) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1171992)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But are you a capitalist? If so, what are you producing?
    4623) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1171962)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you tell me where the library is please?

    Why, certainly. :)
    4624) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1171955)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, reverse protesters, quit whining about the Occupiers and ge back to "work".
    4625) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1171954)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, reverse protesters, actually EAT on your lunch breaks! I've GOT a job! Take THAT!!!
    4626) Message boards : Politics : Occupy this thread (Message 1171953)
    Posted 18 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Really? What do you "produce"?
    4627) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1167539)
    Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't you know, socialism is any policy proposed by a non-white President.


    I always wanted to know what is the notion of socialism for a US citizen, it seems like something bad, awfull like socialists will eat childreen at breakfast.


    The race card doesn't apply here, and you know it.
    4628) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1167537)
    Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    thugs ...
    http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_19246904
    at Whole Foods at 27th and Bay streets, a group wearing all-black and face masks threw paint balls, left graffiti, tore up a fence and broke a window ...

    A man who witnessed the attack on Whole Foods, but declined to give his name, said he was buying an organic orange when the vandalism started.
    "I heard a thud as I walked out, and I looked and saw this whole parade of people walking toward the store," the man said. "Most of them were holding signs, walking peacefully, but about three people ran out and kicked down the gate, so I turned to run away."
    Joan Bechtel, of Pittsburg, said she and her friend were inside when the vandalism started and were held inside the store for 45 minutes.
    "People were scared at first, and there was a lot of tension there for quite a while," Bechtel said. "We heard they were coming back and the employees said they had to close the store, and they let us out."
    Oakland City Council President Larry Reid took was not pleased with the destruction.
    "Look at Whole Foods. Look at Bank of America and the Kaiser Center. Look at Chase Bank. It's not even dark yet." Asked if he thinks the city can control the vandalism, Reid sighed, and said simply, "No."
    Occupy Oakland demonstrators turned their ire on big banks, the Port of Oakland and corporations Wednesday by marching, blocking traffic and chanting -- and in some cases, defacing ATMs and breaking windows -- at Wells Fargo, Bank of America and Chase Bank branches around downtown Oakland.
    At Bank of America, some protesters pounded on the locked doors, defaced ATMs and broke a window before moving down the street to Wells Fargo.
    Several windows were also broken at the Wells Fargo at 12th and Broadway ...


    Dear 99%er Gary Charpentier, I like how you and 99% of the conservative corporation controlled media outlets are "working" hard to discredit. Enjoy your new role as a news media outlet. :)

    Signed, non-dull, 1 in 7 billion.
    4629) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1167534)
    Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great Nations have always sponsored exploration. Failed nations have sponsored socialism.


    I'm curious about what is your notion of socialism.

    China is sponsoring exploration and as per US standards is a socialist state.

    I always wanted to know what is the notion of socialism for a US citizen, it seems like something bad, awfull like socialists will eat childreen at breakfast


    we have no clue.
    We're Americans!
    But, it's interesting you ask this question, since you do not sound particularly socialist yourself.
    Not that I'd know what a socialist sounds like. :)
    4630) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1167532)
    Posted 3 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great Nations have always sponsored exploration. Failed nations have sponsored socialism.

    Get government off the back of space exploration. That's what the founding Fathers would have wanted.
    4631) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1167322)
    Posted 2 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear 99% who sleep.

    One of us 1%'s just passed. He stayed awake. Started in his parent's garage with a hobby. Turned it into the biggest corporation, beat out all the banks and oil companies.

    99% if you continue to sit on your rear and expect someone else to make you rich you will continue exactly where you are now. The only person who can make you rich is the one you see in the mirror every morning.

    Now deal with the facts of life.

    Sincerely,
    1%



    Dear Gary Charpentier,

    Von Braun and JFK are long dead. One had the scientific knowledge and inspiration, the other the political will and wherwwithall, to get us to Luna. Now, when a government agency is out of big inspiring ideas, and the "little private corporation guys" trying to get space tourism and exploration going in a different way, you would rather gripe about Obama and the Democratic Party for reducing NASAs role and worry that they will scrap it altogether.
    I could go on and on, but, are you saying you do not trust a Werner Von Braun or Steve Jobs to appear on the private side of space tourism and exploration, who might keep the technological innovation?
    If not, I see contradictions in your overall thinking. Do you?

    The 1 in 7 billion = 0.1428571429 * 10^(-7) %.
    4632) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1167303)
    Posted 2 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cafe Owner Says He Was Forced to Cut Staff by Nearly a Fourth Because of 'Occupy' Protests
    A New York City cafe cut its staff by nearly 25 percent last week because of lost business due to the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests, the cafe's owner told FoxNews.com.

    Marc Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street in lower Manhattan, said he had to cut 21 of the 97 members of his staff on Thursday and Friday after seeing sales plummet by 30 percent in the six weeks since the protests began. He's also been forced to slash the restaurant operating hours, moving up his closing time from 9 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Mondays through Thursdays.

    The incessant noise and police activity aside, Epstein said the biggest obstacle to his business has been the ubiquitous New York police barricades surrounding Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan.

    "It's not only a physical impediment, it's a psychological impediment," Epstein told FoxNews.com. "You look down Wall Street now, and it looks like it's under siege. So, people who have to walk down Wall Street don't walk down Wall Street. It used to be a beautiful pedestrian mall, and now it's not -- it's ugly."

    More jobs lost to Occupy. How soon before the only job is state police officer?


    Will you swallow it,
    hook, line and sinker?
    Prime-time, boob tube ...
    you're a Marble Thinker.

    What they're tryin' to sell ya,
    could it be,
    they have an agenda?
    4633) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1167299)
    Posted 2 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since we are too poor to fund space endeavors and too broke, too politically correct and beat up to pursue wars we will find out that technological development may be slowed or the next new technology may not be forthcoming at all.

    Same question to you, William, as to Bob DeWoody. Why do you want a government program for this, and not put a lot, or any, support behind the private sector industry leading us further into space? (Which, if it happens, could just as well spur the technological developments you so rightly refer to.)
    and if I am understanding you and Bob correctly, again I ask, do you not see the contradictory stance you are taking, compared to just about anything else either of you have posted in the Politics forum. If you see it as otherwise, please explain what I'm missing.
    'Til then, "Woo hoo, gooo ANSARI!"
    4634) Message boards : Politics : Judgement day is next friday (Message 1167027)
    Posted 1 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why are you even giving this crap any further attention?
    4635) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1167026)
    Posted 1 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Getting back to whether Obama is going to close NASA even though I believe he would like to I doubt that he can without a lot of help from somewhere. California, Texas and Florida have a lot to lose if NASA and all it's programs were closed down and those three states have a large impact on how National elections turn out. Also their members of congress from both parties heavily support the space program. NASA may not initiate any new space missions over the next few years but it is very doubtful that it will close it's doors. Move along, these aren't the droids you are looking for.

    Still telling ya, with the previous suggesting we go back to the Moon first, before Mars, NASA was in trouble.
    And it's funny, the self-contradiction: why do you not support the private industrialization of space travel/exploration?
    4636) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166865)
    Posted 1 Nov 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Average (Median?) on the Stanford-Binet scale 1s 100. Most of us would find people at this level extremely dull. !28 is not too bad but far from near genius.

    Too bad that of my recent posts, this is the one people have seized on.
    But, since you choose to, Barry, William is closer to correct.
    As IQ scores, as with many standardized tests, is nearly Normally distributed, William, it is mu that is referred to here.
    Now, in my earlier days, it was stated the standard deviation, sigma, was 20. Now I see some texts claiming it is 15.
    The bit about Obama and Palin's IQs is merely what some ads claim to try to get you to follow their link at take their test (and perhaps get some spyware and malware dumped on you). I hoped people would realize I was joking when citing it.
    However, with sigma = 20, roughly 68% of people are in the 80 to 120 range; roughly 95% in the 40 to 140 range; roughly 99.7% in the 40 to 160 range.
    Focusing on the upper end: 34% in the 100 to 120 range; 13.5% in the 120 to 140 range; 2.35% in the 140 to 160 range. That leaves 0.15% in the range above 160.
    If youo accept the sigma = 15 instead, use the same percentage but say the 100 to 115, 115 to 130, 130 to 145, and above 145 ranges.
    Now,how do they define "genius"? I'll bet that varies, too. But I'm sure if you're not more than 2 standard deviations above the mean, you don't meet the condition, no matter what.
    By probabilities, I would not be at all surprised if Obama's and Palin's IQs are as stated, but I am sure that's not part of what they are legally required to disclose, lol.
    4637) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166841)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Probes are easier and require much less space than sending people to planets. I'd rather see near time use of NASA's budget spent on probes to planets/asteroids than trying to get someone there.


    The whole point of this report is that Obama wants to scrap all space exploration, manned or robotic. I guess he thinks we have learned everything there is to learn about space.


    Dude! Palin has an IQ of 125. Obama has an IQ of 128. (It's been all over the web the last 3 years.) Of course they've learned all they can about space!
    (Oh. Wait. 125 and 128 just barely go above the average range. OOPS!)
    4638) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166838)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder about all the hype over the "privatization" of building space hardware, specifically manned space craft. Boeing and Lockheed/Martin are private corporations just like Space X. I doubt that anybody will build a fully functioning manned spacecraft without any government backing and funding. No matter who builds a manned spacecraft they will have to meet NASA safety standards before getting permission to put one human into orbit or beyond. So there won't be any backyard homeboys building their own low tech space dump trucks to collect space garbage.

    So whether or not a small underfunded start up aerospace corporation will build the next manned space vehicle remains doubtful to me. I am not counting Burt Rutan's sub orbital craft as it has no potential to evolve into an orbital vehicle.

    Abandoning NASA is about as stupid as closing the FAA would be.


    Despite standards and laws, eventually, someone who thinks they can do it is going to do it or try to do it. And the question is, will it be the right choice? Still, someone will most definitely try. And I'd rather see them try that than see if they can rap better than Marshall Smathers.
    4639) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166835)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Probes are easier and require much less space than sending people to planets. I'd rather see near time use of NASA's budget spent on probes to planets/asteroids than trying to get someone there.


    The whole point of this report is that Obama wants to scrap all space exploration, manned or robotic. I guess he thinks we have learned everything there is to learn about space.


    Face it, when Bush said let's go BACK to the MOON, an accomplishment we already achieved and didn't need to revisit before shooting for MARS, you know NASA was screwed right then and there. BACK TO THE MOON? NUTS!!! :)
    4640) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166833)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    does seem like you have really drunk Becktaid or Rushpills. I took you for less stupid than that.

    When The MSNBC Wonks quit using Terms of Derision for The Repugs/TeaPots, then I might decide not to use them for The DEM/Libs and Potus.


    Wah, wah, Rush coined Feminazis, so when some less moral wonks on the "other side" mimic him, Rush fans cry foul when it's "turnabout is fair play."

    Except there probably is no other side.

    MSNBC is owned by a corporation. Those corporations the Occupiers you dislike are protesting against.

    So which is it? Do you support the protesters or oppose them?

    Do you support corporations and the media outlets they own, or oppose them?

    Sowwsh. Slam. Dunk.

    Thank you.


    I mean, seriously, Sarah, "I studied journalism in college", "I hate the lamestream media" that I "manipulate so well" Palin?
    She and Obama could be best friends for all we know.
    A video AFTER the election with McCain and Obama sure seemed to show cooler sides of them way to soon after a supposedly vitriolic election.
    4641) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166768)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    does seem like you have really drunk Becktaid or Rushpills. I took you for less stupid than that.

    When The MSNBC Wonks quit using Terms of Derision for The Repugs/TeaPots, then I might decide not to use them for The DEM/Libs and Potus.


    Wah, wah, Rush coined Feminazis, so when some less moral wonks on the "other side" mimic him, Rush fans cry foul when it's "turnabout is fair play."

    Except there probably is no other side.

    MSNBC is owned by a corporation. Those corporations the Occupiers you dislike are protesting against.

    So which is it? Do you support the protesters or oppose them?

    Do you support corporations and the media outlets they own, or oppose them?

    Sowwsh. Slam. Dunk.

    Thank you.
    4642) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1166660)
    Posted 31 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOINC client version 6.10.58

    Need another reminder: when updating BOINC, do i need to go through the opti apps installation again? I've been holding off on updating opti apps for other projects until I checked this.


    No.


    Thanks!
    4643) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1166050)
    Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOINC client version 6.10.58

    Need another reminder: when updating BOINC, do i need to go through the opti apps installation again? I've been holding off on updating opti apps for other projects until I checked this.
    4644) Message boards : Politics : Obama to cancel NASA (Message 1166049)
    Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been saying since the day Obama announced the "plan" to visit an asteroid that it was just a smoke screen to mask his intention to scrap US participation in manned space flight. So it's no surprise to me, if true, that NASA is heading for the chopping block. Funding NASA does not buy many votes whereas a new fat welfare program will. It is so short sighted to claim that the money spent on the space program is a waste. Like I have said before, the money does not get shot into space and lost. The vast majority of the money goes to pay highly intelligent and talented people to do jobs and they in turn spend that money to buy houses, cars, clothes, food and all the other things that keep the economy going. Too much welfare money goes into the pockets of the people providing services to those at the recieving end.

    I thought there was nothing government could do that private industry couldn't do better. GO, AnSARI! WOO!!!
    4645) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1166033)
    Posted 28 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You tell me! They seem pretty lame, compared to the CND protesters that we used to get 'camped' outside the main gate of the RAF station I was stationed at, years ago. Perhaps the modern 'protester', enjoys rather too much, the 'gifts' that the system they hate so much, allows them to have, or lacks that level of conviction.

    From a personal perspective, when people were paid by cash for the work they'd done, at the end of the week, the banks were a place you might put your spare cash into. Once the method by which one was paid (and the frequency), changed, the banks then had vast sums of money to 'play with'....in total, massive sums that would never have been 'available' to them, when we were paid in cash. So, what changed all that? You will find no argument from me, that the banks need to be more strictly controlled....especially if you'd paid out some of the insanely high bank charges that I have.


    Never, ever, ever, have I been paid by my main employer, in cash. Payment in cash occurred when I was in high school and helped out someone on their farm for a day or so and they paid me cash "under the table" for that day of help.
    For any "real" job, it's been by check. And that is going back to the 1980s.
    What changed, 10-15 years ago, was the insistence that the checks be direct deposited.

    P.S.-so what's this about there were no bank failures from 1930 to 1980?
    4646) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1165660)
    Posted 27 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lets look at a study that has been done about why people are successful:

    "One in 25 business leaders may be a psychopath, study finds.
    Psychopaths use charm and manipulation to achieve success in the workplace, according to a US study"

    What sort of world do we live in where psychopathic traits are what we aspire to?
    No wonder these people go on the TV and claim that it's your own fault that you are poor. Why would you even give a second thought to such a ludicrous claim???


    To William Rothamel, Bob Dewoody & Ozzfan: you might want to read http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~pzapf/classes/CRJ70000/Formulating%20the%20research%20question.htm. In particular, looking into "researchable question" and "operationalization" (i.e., an operational definition of a term).
    What Es cites, I take it without having yet read what's at her links, probably does this: defining luck as successful in some way, which can be measured, say in the case of monetary success by looking at something like a.g.i. orr and other monetary measures.
    I used your words from this and another thread, essentially boiling down to, "We, as individuals, are completely responsible for our own successes and failures."
    You tried to seize on my use of your word, "luck". Bob tried to give me a lesson on what Probability & Statistics are and are not, not knowing my background apparently.
    But, as I say, we can find something roughly synonymous with "lucky", such as "successful" and create a reasonable operational definition of "successful" and thus measure it. From there, one might be able to answer a researchable question involving the term.
    BTW, Bob, no offense, but one of your ending comments in a later post is contradictory to your earlier statements. It makes me think of one of the ending lines from "Forrest Gump", where Forrest muses aloud by Jebby's grave that he doesn't know if his mother was right and everyone has a purpose, or if Lt. Dan was right and everyone is "floating around, accidental like, on a breeze. But I think .. maybe ... mabe it's both?"
    4647) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1165154)
    Posted 25 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the GPU, am I correct that if it's ATI, the only choices are:
    1) Enable/disable using GPU on MultiBeam and
    2) Enable/disable using GPU on AstroPulse?

    No other options besides that, right?


    I take that back. I see two options for each. Don't know why I couldn't see that earlier.
    AstroPulse: based on age, series, and "no double", looks like I need the 2nd option.
    MultiBeam: looks like I am out of luck using the ATI GPU here. Both mention a series above mine.

    Correct?
    4648) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1165136)
    Posted 24 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for the GPU, am I correct that if it's ATI, the only choices are:
    1) Enable/disable using GPU on MultiBeam and
    2) Enable/disable using GPU on AstroPulse?

    No other options besides that, right?
    4649) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1165105)
    Posted 24 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been a while:

    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow

    I do not see SSE3 listed. So, for AstroPulse_v508 (CPU), I user what is automatically selected, SSE (or higher)?

    'PNI', for "Prescott New Instructions", is an alternative name for SSE3.

    Hmmm. OK, then. That makes the options:

    SSE3 (x64, generic)
    SSE3_AMD (x86, fatser on sse3 AMD)
    SSE3x (Intel only)
    or SSE4.1 (Intel only)

    I know it's an AMD CPU, so one of the first two options?
    4650) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1165100)
    Posted 24 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been a while:

    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow


    I do not see SSE3 listed. So, for AstroPulse_v508 (CPU), I user what is automatically selected, SSE (or higher)?

    Thus, for MultiBeam, I should not be letting the CPU work on it, as everything listed there is SSE3.(fill in the blank)?

    Had something weird happen a day after I opened this thread, which made the GPU not talk to BOINC again, but it looks like I solved that. Right now, I just have the GPU working on a Collatz workunit.

    I'll worry about Lunatic opti apps settings for that next.
    4651) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1164236)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just an FYI you have a fairly old ATI card. Do not expect miracles if you choose to run AP WU's on it. Also be aware that those cards don't have very good HSF setups so you'll need to be aware of the GPU heat

    I'm running 2 extra fans under the laptop.
    The laptop is 2-3 years old. Never got a driver going with it so BOINC would recognize it until now.
    I'm in no position to put some other GPU in in place of it.
    4652) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1164222)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the link you want is this one for the Lunatics 0.38 installer for Windows 32 bit. LadyL is quite right....ATI drivers are a real pain to cleanly remove - Cat 11.5 works OK for me, but since it is such a pain to install older drivers that may work better, I've taken the 'if it works, that'll do' attitude!

    Never had the right driver before. Data Execution Protection kept making the Catalyst Control Center on me. This time, I selected autodetect when installing the ATI driver, and finally BOINC recognizes it.
    I will check your link later today.
    4653) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1164208)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That says, BOINC sees the GPU.

    On SETI you will have to run optimised (already doing that I see) and if I'm not mistaken that is the 11.9 driver which does not work too well with the apps we have. I've been told downgrading cleanly is big fun.

    Apparently your alternative is to reserve a core to feed the GPU, but your system only has one.


    My next question was indeed about opti apps. I have not updated them in quite some time,

    "ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (CAL version 1.4.1546, 512MB, 36 GFLOPS peak)" doesn't have OpenCL support from AMD, but ought to be able to use the hybrid ap_5.06_x86_win_SSE_BROOK_NO_DOUBLE_r453.exe application from the 0.38 installer. As it does a lot of the processing on the CPU anyhow, the driver version may not have a lot of effect. OTOH, did I read something about AMD dropping Stream support in recent drivers?

    I've run that application with an ATI HD 2600 XP, about 20% of the runtime was on the GPU, the other 80% was on one core of my Q8200 quad. That's with 11.5 drivers as supplied by an update from Microsoft for Win7 32 bit. Basically, it left 20% of that CPU core free to do other work, so you could do AP work with that and also run MB work on the CPU. But the runtime of the MB work will be lengthened so much that estimates and DCF are likely to vary a lot. If work supply was such that you could count on having both AP and MB almost always, those variations would be no problem. Even with the likely cases where there's only MB work much of the time, it would mostly just make work fetch and the estimates bounce around more than is comfortable.


    I believe there are other projects which might use that card more efficiently, but I haven't checked. [pre] Joe[/pre


    Joe, since it's been a while, I don't remember where to look. Where can I get ap_5.06_x86_win_SSE_BROOK_NO_DOUBLE_r453.exe (or the installer you mentioned)?
    As for other projects, all I see is Collatz and Milkyway among those I crunch for. But MW needs double precision, which I do not think I have. Also listed is S@H Beta. Is that running still? Wasn't that testing Astropulse, and now we get those in regular S@H?
    4654) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1164130)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That says, BOINC sees the GPU.

    On SETI you will have to run optimised (already doing that I see) and if I'm not mistaken that is the 11.9 driver which does not work too well with the apps we have. I've been told downgrading cleanly is big fun.

    Apparently your alternative is to reserve a core to feed the GPU, but your system only has one.


    My next question was indeed about opti apps. I have not updated them in quite some time,
    4655) Message boards : Number crunching : Finally?!? (Message 1164122)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can someone tell me, does this mean I finally got my GPU to work with BOINC?

    10/20/2011 10:31:30 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
    10/20/2011 10:31:30 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
    10/20/2011 10:31:30 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
    10/20/2011 10:31:30 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
    10/20/2011 10:31:30 PM Running under account hp
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Neo Processor MV-40 [Family 15 Model 127 Stepping 2]
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Processor: 512.00 KB cache
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 4.24 GB virtual
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Disk: 219.79 GB total, 101.04 GB free
    10/20/2011 10:31:31 PM Local time is UTC -6 hours
    10/20/2011 10:31:32 PM ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (CAL version 1.4.1546, 512MB, 36 GFLOPS peak)
    4656) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1164095)
    Posted 21 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh No! Potus is off The Bus and is Speaking! Say it ain't so.

    The Messiah has His Audience Messmerized.

    Duke is cracking jokes and Everyone of His Zombies is Laughing.

    When Potus brings up The Half-Trillion $$$$$ Stimulus-Yes, I believe Da Potus said Stimulus-they still Laugh. Say What?

    What are The Occupiers thinking of The Bus Tour? A-Okay with them? No Doubt. As long as They don't get run over. Ya know, Unda Da Bus.

    When it comes to Chief Executives-and Potus is THE CHIEF(CEO) EXECUTIVE of The Country, it don't matter How Much He Spends on Trips. Nor how much The Company(USA) Spends on Foolishness(Potus Loves That Word). As Long as The $$$$$ comes out of The Shareholders Pockets(Citizens). What?

    Where's The Fudiciary Duty in that? Whoa there! Pull back on DEM reins Boyz!

    Nah. Spending is The Way. It has been Scientifically Proven ya know.

    Dull


    The problem with the hypnotically suggestible is:

    (1) When they come out of hypnosis, they claim everyone else is (still) under it.
    (2) They just go look for someone else to hypnotize them, instead of avoiding hypnosis.
    4657) Message boards : Politics : Big Media silence on those Occupy places (Message 1163206)
    Posted 17 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You need to look at who owns the mainstream media and who has shares in them. They are not going to embarrass their investers by printing headlines they dont want to see. There are too many fingers in too many pies.

    The Koch Brothers and Rupert Murdoch, huge conservatives, paid Sarah Palin to coin the phrase "liberal lame-stream media"? Nah, say it isn't so!
    4658) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1161981)
    Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe that basically we make our own luck with that random factor thrown in from time to time. Case in point, last year I had a nearly fatal car accident. Did I make my own luck when the driver of another vehicle coming from the other direction lost control and swerved into my lane on a curve. No, of course not. But the fact that I chose to wear a seatbelt on that occasion probably saved my life so in that regard I did make my own luck. Life is full of little twists and turns like that. It was bad luck that I was born with spinabifida but it was good luck that my Dad was stationed at a Navy base only 50 miles from Boston where the best surgeon in the country was able to operate and prevent me from ending up totally paralyzed. Bottom line sh#t happens and it is how we deal with it that makes us successes or failures.


    Here you indicated you earned a BA in Math Education, which means you studies a lot of math, not just education. And, depending on the school, you may have also had a fair amount of science classes. So, you should understand the line of inquiry I am proposing: "What does science tell us about the idea that we make our own luck." Anecdotes (n = 1) won't cut it here.
    4659) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1161951)
    Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it interesting, time and time and again, how some people who are interested in the various scientific projects hosted through BOINC, with some of these people themselves involved in the teaching or research of mathematics or other sciences, will often fall back upon unfounded opinions. And they do so with as much certainty as the certainty they attack in the threads about religion and spirituality.
    Rather than fall back on the old saying, "You make your own luck," have you at least heard about, or read, studies that can help delve into the complex questions about nature, nurture and myriad other factors? One area that immediately came to mind was studies on twins. This is just to start.. And if anyone can think of similar research areas, please include them.
    If you prefer a different search engine, enter my search phrase at google, or better yet, scholar.google.com, and those of you that have access to university research databases such as ERIC (not Korpela!) ... go for it!

    Too bad no one's tried to respond to this yet. (You do that pretty often, S@H Politics debating community. Get asked a d@mn3d good question, and you clam up.)
    Well, I've made a connection that's going to might help me start providing you some of science's answers.
    So, maybe we'll find out ... what's science got to say about this concept ... "you make your own luck."
    4660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1161927)
    Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to Jenna Bush Hager for interviewing Ozzy Osbourne this morning on the Today show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AMFF-R_xgc.
    4661) Message boards : Politics : It's all in the Semantics [the criminal Israeli dictatorship] (Message 1161925)
    Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Writing it here ain't worth jack.
    4662) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1161155)
    Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ugh, woke up after only 90 minutes of sleeping.

    But perhaps that sort of 'change the environment and where would you be' scenario is a bit off the charts for this discussion...


    It'd be almost perfect.
    One thing I'm asking is, who's read, or seen TV reports that summarize about, the research on twins? Some of it has involved identical twins that were separated shortly after birth and, IIRC, while some turned out very similar, in other cases, the influence of nurture caused very big differences.
    So, what does science have to say about "we make our own luck"?
    Anecdote: whether you like his stuff or not, the rapper Eminem is a success and he id work hard to get there. But, part of that success story was also that Dr. Dre heard some of his stuff, got interested, and plucked him up. Dre helped in that success story.
    4663) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1161080)
    Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I agree with this -- but does it really say that much. We are in a very much interconnected world. Our own skills and determination matter, as do the 'preconditions' (ie family situation when growing up, early schooling, etc.). Over the past several years, the external conditions have had an increasingly large effect as well. With the tanked economy, even people with the right 'preconditions', skills and determination are among those struggling today.

    Then again, I don't think one could every attribute personal success solely to one's own decisions.


    Hmmm. Such as, say, Steve Jobs if he lived in the 1500s? Maybe his skills really only fit techy stuff, and back then, he would've had nothing to grab onot, thus not being a success no matter how determined a dude he was?
    4664) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1161079)
    Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is to Blame?

    99% of the 99% is to Blame. They need to Blame Themselves.

    0.0099% of The 1% is to Blame. They would be MO FOs.

    Earthquakes, Hurricanes, Meteors, Tsunamis, Volcanos are not included.

    Dull


    You can gibber in your own thread. ;)
    4665) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1160943)
    Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it interesting, time and time and again, how some people who are interested in the various scientific projects hosted through BOINC, with some of these people themselves involved in the teaching or research of mathematics or other sciences, will often fall back upon unfounded opinions. And they do so with as much certainty as the certainty they attack in the threads about religion and spirituality.
    Rather than fall back on the old saying, "You make your own luck," have you at least heard about, or read, studies that can help delve into the complex questions about nature, nurture and myriad other factors? One area that immediately came to mind was studies on twins. This is just to start.. And if anyone can think of similar research areas, please include them.
    If you prefer a different search engine, enter my search phrase at google, or better yet, scholar.google.com, and those of you that have access to university research databases such as ERIC (not Korpela!) ... go for it!
    4666) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1160840)
    Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Reason The Movement Will Fail.

    Because The Occupiers/Protesters are The Government. Are The Corporation.

    They are Protesting Against Themselves.

    In Their Rage they will Learn Nothing.

    Blame, Blame, Blame some Other Entity besides Yourselves. And End Up for The Effort, Worse Off Than Before.

    And Blame Again Others for it: Government/Wall Street.

    Be Frugal Rabble Rousers, be Frugal and Flourish. Otherwise Flounder.

    Don't let A Neanderthal be Smarter Than You. It does not take much of A Noggin'.

    Dull.


    Transcript:
    PICARD: They are not vermin. They are citizens of the Federation. I will not permit this outrage!
    SHELIAK: Intelligent converse is impossible. You do not discuss, you gibber.
    PICARD: Between intelligent species of good will

    [Bridge]

    (Picard and Troi are zapped back onto the Bridge in mid sentence)
    RIKER: I take it the Sheliak just hung up on us again.

    4667) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1160774)
    Posted 10 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I blame Herman Munster, Sarge, for stopping my business and creative abilities.

    It's a serious question, John.
    4668) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1160664)
    Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michele, with one L. She'll correct you on that. ;-)

    ...

    To say that "I can't be successful because I'm not paid enough by my employer and I didn't receive a large inheritance" is to blame all outside factors and refuse to admit one's responsibility in one's own life.

    I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that everything one endures during their own life outside of their control will negate their ability to be or remain successful, even for a small percentage of the population.


    I suspected I would be corrected on the one or two Ls.
    As for your last two paragraphs, then it sounds like we're in agreement, except perhaps about the degree to which internal and external factors balance.
    As for the last example I posted Friday, using 3 generations was just throwing out a number, but still, success stories do not always occur in one generation.
    As for community colleges, as I began my teaching career at one (even though I had just prior been preparing to teach at the secondary level), I can say I do know what some people can manage to pull off, but I also watched others with tremendous struggles.
    I do not feel like jumping on the bandwagon of bringing up Steve Jobs and any adversities he experienced as a child for examples. But if he'd been born later, to a crack mom, remember, he might have been low functioning, fairly well functioning ... . But to be born to a crack mom and her drug use not affecting brain functioning, despite genes for genius? Getting a genius in that situation seems much less likely. The nature and nurture debate.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=65731&nowrap=true#1160599
    4669) Message boards : Politics : Who is to Blame? (Message 1160599)
    Posted 9 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On "Meet the Press," right now, Paul Ryan speaking to host David Gregory. Mr. Gregory plays a clip of Herman Cain: "If you're not a billionaire, don't blame Wall Street, blame yourself." Gregory asks Ryan, is what Cain is saying the Republican message for 2012? Gregory responds that he wants to work on removing the barriers Washington has placed on people that keep them from rising.

    Implicit in this is that there are outside factors that effect lives of individuals, possibly so much so that one cannot just attribute personal successes and failures on one's own decisions.

    That's what I think. What do you think?
    4670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1160278)
    Posted 8 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to all those following the Conrad Murray trial:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRcqelVSRfU
    4671) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1160008)
    Posted 8 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah, heck, one more, less hypothetical ... .
    Late 80s. 16 year old girl, living in a gherto, addicted to crack, has a baby ... .
    Child grows up, luckily fairly high functioning.
    Success in such a situation? Heck, just avoiding crack and all other drugs! Not getting pregnant (or impregnating someone) at such a young age. Avoiding a life of crime.
    It might take something like at least 3 generations more for more successes for the family to get out of the ghetto.
    Would the person born as a crack baby have the right to fault the crack mom for very bad decisions? I think yes.
    4672) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1160001)
    Posted 8 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-and that last line is not to suggest that is the behavior to be found among the set of all who have inherited one million or more.
    4673) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1160000)
    Posted 8 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Ozzfan" wrote:
    "Sarge" wrote:
    Internal locus or external locus of control? After 3.5-4 decades, sorry, I'm going to accept some things and other things ... sorry ... just not my fault. I'm not some spirit in the material world.
    There's owning one's self and then there's unnecessarily beating one's self up.


    You honestly lost me here... I'm not clear at all what you're trying to say.


    You are correct that I included my emotions in the previous post. That is not necessarily a problem.
    As for "locus of control," it is a term I first encountered in a Child & Adolescent Psychology class taken as an undergrad. You might be interested in some brief reading about it included at http://wik.ed.uiuc.edu/index.php/Locus_of_control.
    Since it was the crux of my points in posts today, and it is implicitly what you are responding to, here's the bottom line as I see it:
    People must bear responsibility for their decisions, One that does so completely has a(n) (completely?) internal locus of control.
    I do not think it is reasonable to say one's situation, successes and failures, are completely due to one's previous decisions.
    "No one is an island."
    "We are not just the sum of our parts."
    So on and so forth.
    We are indeed impacted by outside factors. We cannot control everything.
    That is not to say blame every bad thing in one's life on anything and everyone else.
    Here's a hypothetical situation:
    Suppose 40000 years ago, a pocket of Neandertals survived on some small island. Over time, the population dwindles. No Homo Sapiens ever stumble across the island. (I know, big assumption, but go with it.) Finally, a man and woman remain, have one child, then the parents pass away at some point after a regular, but lonely Neandertal life. The one child, now an adult, is completely alone. If Neandertals (or ones that survived) could contemplate one's situation the way we do, then that one remaining Neandertal is about the only creature I could think of that could think to himself or herself: "I am completely responsible for my successes and failures ... my fate."
    To say otherwise, about us, essentially, subscribes to the position: " I affect myself, only, I have no effect on others, and nothing effects me."
    I do not subscribe to that philosophy. It is not one of my axioms.
    Frankly, I do not think you do either. On at least two occasions, you've mentioned the death tax ... regarding the difficulties that tax, by government (made up of people) has affected .. her name is Michelle? ... and you.
    I'll close for now with a brief aside to you and Skil. Skil, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I suspect what you brought up about the Founding Fathers applied to the elite of their time and earlier. What Ozz has been describing, I think, is what nearly every parent would hope to be able to do: pass on just a little bit to their children to make life a little easier after the parents are gone. That is far different from inheriting millions and sitting on one's butt living in debauchery once getting an inheritance.
    4674) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159974)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-Ozz, just stating questions bluntly, not arguing with you. Raising issues for debate, as you have done for me.
    4675) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159970)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ozzf4 you are really ignoring the fact that american society is realistically nurture only few Steve Jobs's and only few Obamas and rest of more than 90% is really end up with capitalism victims.


    The only victims of capitalism are the ones that are uninterested in their own education and uninterested in developing a useful skill to earn a living off of.


    When one university views doing essentially the same job one did at another university as being worth $16,000 per year less (and getting that job sure as heck required using da old noggin), the professor is a victim of his or her own ... what? It's his or her fault that one place puts a lower value on things? It's his or her fault that a football player is worth hundreds of thousands to millions? It's his or her fault that the university cut positions back due to the choices others were making economically? It's his or her fault the ax chopped his or her head (that (s)he USED) because (s)he was the newest in the department?
    But (s)he used the NOGGIN'!
    4676) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159969)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But ozzf4 your individualism always lead to this. Here is the fact:

    This is very clear fact seemingly:

    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/


    Those 99%, like myself (as I am drowning in debt), are responsible for themselves and their debt. This is not the result of an individualistic society, and it would not necessarily be better in a communal society. This is the result of people being allowed to and borrowing more than they should have (again, myself included).


    Internal locus or external locus of control? After 3.5-4 decades, sorry, I'm going to accept some things and other things ... sorry ... just not my fault. I'm not some spirit in the material world.
    There's owning one's self and then there's unnecessarily beating one's self up.

    Success is all but guaranteed for those who use their heads.


    if that were 100% completely true, my Dad the valedictorian would be much better off today. Were any of his troubles his fault? Maybe? not studying his first semester in college? Maybe? Or was high school really that easy for him that he never needed, let alone learned to study until the first semester of university kicked his butt?
    What about the business he worked for nearly 30 years nearly giving him a heart attack? That company went bankrupt a few years later. The company was spread across the East coast. Large enough that no way could he be at fault for their demise. But if they could go bankrupt, maybe they were doing enough things wrong to cause him enough stress to cause a heart problem to develop? Hmmm? He had to leave the company, to do something he'd be happier at, and in so doing sacrificed the benefits they would've extended to him had he stayed another year.
    All his fault?
    All the company's fault?
    Let's drop these false dichotomies.
    We are not, as Sting claimed, "Spirits in the Material World."
    4677) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159964)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But ozzf4 your individualism always lead to this. Here is the fact:

    This is very clear fact seemingly:

    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/


    Because billionares and high paying professionals always felt individualistic so the society crumbles after few cycles.

    I have read that both Michele and Barack Obama just managed to pay off their student loan debt just after Obamas successful first book sale. Was that before or just after presidential election.

    ============

    Maybe in the west some degree of individualism really succeed and in the east some degree of communialism really succeed i am not sure something human natural law is working here.


    Students loan repayments might be spread over 20 years. Particularly when one has studied for more than the 4 year bachelor degree. Since Barack was around 45-47(?) at the time of election (?), it is not so surprising that he just paid off those loans.
    4678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1159698)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to Norman Copeland because he's looking for Somebody (a Female explorer wanted for companionship).
    4679) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159599)
    Posted 7 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe out of G8 supreme empirials union only america has 0% heredity tax. What I heard is in japan heredity tax is 80%.


    What incentive do I have to bust my ass for my entire life if I can't leave the fruits of my labors to my family? I sure as hell don't want the majority of the it going to the government!

    Soooo you've accumulated more that $6.5 million? I don't see passing ones wealth to our children as benefitting them. I recall the founding fathers being against Hereditary titles and wealth. But I might be mistaken as well or maybe they were


    No, I haven't, but what if I did? It should be at my choosing as to what to do with that generated wealth, not forcefully taken by the government. You may not see it as benefiting my children, but I see it as allowing them the freedom to live life without all the financial worries I had... and it would go to more than just my kids. I would give some of it away to charity, but at my choosing and the government isn't a charity.

    ...and back to: what incentive do I have to begin building a $6.5 million dollar fortune if at the end it's all going to be taken away (assuming a major 80% cut is given to the gov't like that which I quoted in my post).


    I think Skil might be saying apply the death tax the same way to everyone, regardless of how little or how much one could accumulate in his or her lifetime. Perhaps this is at odds with views he has expressed elsewhere. Maybe the way to go is that the tax should be at a lower rate for those in lower income brackets? But I'm sure someone else would scream bloody murder about that. But what do you think, Ozz?
    4680) Message boards : Politics : Occupy Wall Street (Message 1159412)
    Posted 6 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear 1%, We Fell Asleep For A While. Just Woke Up. Sincerely, The 99%.

    So Sad you Fell Under The Spell 99%. The Spell of Greed.

    Spending what you don't have. Not Saving. Not Managing Your Finances. Not One Ounce of Frugality. Not reading Contracts or Understanding what you sign. You did go to School, right?

    Didn't you listen to Your Grandparents? You know, The Ones who lived through The Depression and Learned? Not that Most People need to have That Example.

    It is Common Sense for Us Non-Corporatists. Got Common Sense? No?

    Well, then You Deserve What You Sow. Yes, it was You Who Screwed Up.

    So, go ahead, Protest Your Own Stupidity and Greed. Because You Are Stupid and Greedy. Heck, you are Human. Still, No Excuse.

    So Blame Others. It's The American Way in The 21st Century.

    Oh, by the way 99%, we live in An Era of Unprecendented Consumer Protection and Availability of Info and You Still Screw Up. Sad.

    So light up a cig, fill your coffee cup and Think About It.

    And Oh Yeah, Protest. LOL.

    Dull
    What a load ... .
    4681) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1159411)
    Posted 6 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... when most of his voters where expecting the return of the messiah.
    What a load ... .
    4682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1159122)
    Posted 5 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Double post. Sorry...

    You didn't double post. The guy before you did. But, you're right, nothing beats the real Pink Floyd. Still, this wasn't even my best performance of the tune. I just finally got a recording of it, :)
    4683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1159040)
    Posted 5 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This one is dedicated to Dune FInkleberry: Hey, You!.
    4684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Das deutsche Haus 3 (Message 1158869)
    Posted 4 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich glaube Uli sind richtig!

    Or is this a case where I should replace glaube with wunsche?
    4685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Das deutsche Haus 3 (Message 1158686)
    Posted 4 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich glaube Uli sind richtig!
    4686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Das deutsche Haus 3 (Message 1158685)
    Posted 4 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One people! :)
    4687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Das deutsche Haus 3 (Message 1158646)
    Posted 3 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    See left of center.
    Schauen Sie auf der linken Seite des Mittelquadrats.
    4688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Das deutsche Haus 3 (Message 1158607)
    Posted 3 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Begnadigen Sie bitte, dass ich Deutsches nicht gut sprechen kann. Mike, konnten Sie einen näheren Blick an dieser Abbildung nehmen wünschen.
    4689) Message boards : Politics : Serfing the waves of Medieval Times (Message 1158004)
    Posted 1 Oct 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Class warfare? Ha! Try serfing the waves of Medieval Times!" -Sarge
    4690) Message boards : Politics : Serfing the waves of Medieval Times (Message 1157602)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - attributed to to Mark Twain
    4691) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1157599)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah, or you can blame the Tea Party as they are totally focused on taking everything from the poor and middle class and giving it to the rich.

    Now THAT's class warfare. Beginning to wonder just how far we ever made it past serfdom. My guess? Not too dang far, after all.
    4692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1157539)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to all of us who have the propensity to fall off the wagon and land right under the wheels, then go out and get all Bent and Bound.

    There's a wagon??
    4693) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1157538)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris, actually, Churchill became Prime Minister BEFORE the fall of France, in fact early on during the German attack.


    Apparently by only a few hours ;-)

    On 10 May 1940, hours before the German invasion of France by a lightning advance through the Low Countries, it became clear that, following failure in Norway, the country had no confidence in Chamberlain's prosecution of the war and so Chamberlain resigned. The commonly accepted version of events states that Lord Halifax turned down the post of prime minister because he believed he could not govern effectively as a member of the House of Lords instead of the House of Commons. Although the prime minister does not traditionally advise the King on the former's successor, Chamberlain wanted someone who would command the support of all three major parties in the House of Commons. A meeting between Chamberlain, Halifax, Churchill and David Margesson, the government Chief Whip, led to the recommendation of Churchill, and, as a constitutional monarch, George VI asked Churchill to be prime minister.

    With a name like Klargessen, it HAS to be good. :)
    4694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1157524)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dedicated to someone who is facing the possibility of experimenting with sobriety on a Friday night - All My Favorite Drunks Have Given Up Drinkin'

    Keep laughing, friend. I hear it has medicinal properties...


    What? My having 1-3 beers on a Friday night is too much? Dang!
    4695) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1157481)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tevatron is shutdown today.
    It seems that OBAMA will be known by the president who destroyed and dismantled the US Space program and scientific research.

    When science get’s political, then the result is like always bad, looks like that current politicians have the ability of turning in to crap everything they touch. Is like the Midas Touch but reversed.


    Wow. Maybe you should read about the dump the G.W. Bush administration took all over science for 8 years straight. Limiting stem cell research is just the best known thing to point to.
    4696) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1157479)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting developments in the discussion.
    So, there's one definite factual error (despite Barry's indication that we had some involvement prior to Pearl Harbor and in an undeclared fashion) and major stretches of credibility in the rest of the spam e-mail I quoted?


    It would be nice to know which, if any, Chief of Staff made the comment that's attributed. I'd imagine that the reason no name is provided is to thwart fact checking, and that it's also a falsehood.

    I'd agree, the general thrust of the email stretches credulity to its breaking point, if not beyond.


    And it's getting widespread repetition: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=The+prediction+from+our+Chief+of+Staff+was+we+would+not+be+able+to+stop+a+massive+invasion+until+they+reached+the+Mississippi+River&ei=UTF-8&fr=yff35ck
    4697) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1157477)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just a thought.
    Much is made of US volunteers enlisting with the British and the French forces before the official entry of the US during both world wars.

    I wonder if figures are available as to how many enlisted on the German side in both WWI and WWII?

    T.A.


    A reasonable question i suppose.
    4698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1157335)
    Posted 30 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The "frienemy" song of 2011!
    Crush Me, Lift Yourself
    4699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1156961)
    Posted 29 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm so jealous - you have more hair on top your head than me! ;-)

    But I have to use Just for Men to cover the grey on the temples and bit in the goatee. That started about 11 years ago! That's reason to tell ppl to not do grad school! :)
    4700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1156922)
    Posted 29 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For my lovely Michele, though she doesn't read SETI much anymore:

    Never be anyone else but you by Ricky Nelson

    I dedicate these to those who like harder/heavier music that has a message:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfD3ttgkIM&feature=related
    http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/6877102
    4701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Can you draw a stick-man? (Message 1156746)
    Posted 28 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did somebody call me? No? OK... thought I heard something.

    Concur.
    4702) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1156670)
    Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    can't we even rib each other?

    No.

    Superior Minds like yours should not confuse Mush Minds like mine. It is Not Nice.

    So Sarge, you must've at least read Euclid's Elements by The Sixth Grade, and also Ptolemy's Almagest?

    Looks like The Dems have Bottomed Out and are on The Upswing again. If The Solyndra Debacle and Other Mistakes don't do them in, they may Have a Chance.

    Can't Believe how Frakking Crappy are The Repugnants.

    Dull



    Gotta love the hyperbole. I'll go hang with some blue collar dudes at a bar tonight (provided i can get enough work done beforehand, and leave early enough), and see if they give me the same kind of B.S. you do. Just to double-check. As I already know they won;t.
    4703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : S@H Song Dedication Thread (Message 1156512)
    Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is for the all the Seti@home staff, because I know they're all die hard Justin Bieber fans.

    Never say never: Justin Bieber and Jaden Smith


    Bieber? Ugh!
    Well, I dedicate this to everybody.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trgKtnfS31g
    4704) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1156491)
    Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You missed the point............first to third grader might've learned...

    Geez 'O Flip Professor. The Prof v. Idiot can stop at any time now.

    I know you are a Prof and you know I'm an Idiot. So, I will show my 3rd Grade Education in Every Post.

    Now, some of The Most Famous Men, Seemingly Smart and Richest had only 3rd Grade Educations, but I am not such, and therefore, my opinions reflect it.

    So why continue to beat up on me. Berate?

    Again, Perry wears some Killer Suits. And Obama will be going on a Vacation as a Privite Citizen after The Next Election.

    The New Prez will not be any of The Clowns now Debasing themselves.

    Who? Who knows. It won't be me.

    Dull


    I guess "dull" here means lacking a sense of humor? Sheesh oh cheese, cheese and rice, can't we even rib each other?
    4705) Message boards : Politics : Seti Debating Society? (Message 1156487)
    Posted 27 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought they were large, ate babies and lived under bridges

    John, do you have pictures to prove this? ;)
    4706) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1156184)
    Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting developments in the discussion.
    So, there's one definite factual error (despite Barry's indication that we had some involvement prior to Pearl Harbor and in an undeclared fashion) and major stretches of credibility in the rest of the spam e-mail I quoted?
    4707) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1156182)
    Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rick Perry won't go into office the day right after the election

    Thank GOD for it. I would Pray to be turned from Atheist to Believer if it could prevent him from being elected to Prez.

    All The GOTP Contenders at the moment are an Embarrassment to US Politics.

    None of The Present Ones will be The Nominee.

    The Nominee is waiting In The Wings and will toss their hat in when We can't take anymore of The Present Bobbleheaded FreakaZoids.

    Although Perry was wearing a Killer Suit the other day.

    Dull


    You missed the point.
    If Obama loses his re-election bid in November 2012, his "vacation" will not begin then. Even if, as you claim, you do not vote, hopefully you do realize the next term begins in January of the following year. In this case, 01/13 for my fellow Americans. So, maybe it was an oversight on your part. If not ... ? As for Perry, that was just a matter of insert the name of any current GOP presidential candidate. Again, I thought you might pick up on that.

    P.S.: no, I obviously did not read "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" before finishing 1st grade. That is hyperbole built on an earlier comment of mine. There are things people think others don't know, when in fact an at least mildly curious first to third grader might've learned on his or her own or learned in school.
    4708) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1156179)
    Posted 26 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Agreed Sarge. See my suggestion elsewhere.

    Seems to be a work in progress, which is all one can ask, right? If I don't like the results, can I cane someone? :)
    4709) Message boards : Number crunching : How BOINC became like Facebook (Message 1155835)
    Posted 25 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Sarge.
    Just out of interest. What version of BOINC are you running ?

    Haven't had a lot of time for tweaking, with updates of BAM ir some opti apps I use. Looks like the BAM version says 6.10.58. Still, it shouldn't send me stuff from projects I set to NNT to not current;y crunch for that project currently.
    4710) Message boards : Number crunching : How BOINC became like Facebook (Message 1155781)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As the kids say, no worries.
    4711) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1155737)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    John calling Bobby a troll? WTH? John, have you forgotten who Bobby is?


    Thanks for the vote of confidence Sarge.

    I am still waiting for my apology from John. Perhaps I should escalate and red x the offending post :-).


    Indirectly, via PMs, I think all is cool. You just didn't get the apology made to you, directly or indirectly. But the error recognized.
    4712) Message boards : Number crunching : How BOINC became like Facebook (Message 1155722)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, not kidding.
    4713) Message boards : Number crunching : How BOINC became like Facebook (Message 1155716)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woke up recently (last few days), to find work units downloaded from projects I have, for the time being, set to no new tasks. Interesting, no?
    4714) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1155486)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All I pointed out, implicitly, was that we (the US) were not explicitly at war in December, 1941. No declaration by us or against us.
    That was my memory of history lessons. Posting it was essentially saying, can anyone confirm my correctness, or straighten out my memory? I think we have the answer to that from many thread contributors.
    And how anyone could construe that as an agenda ... .
    Now, feel free to discuss the gun control issue further.
    4715) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1155485)
    Posted 24 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has The Prez booked his 2012 Vacation Yet? As a Private Citizen? hehehe

    Dull


    Upi'd have to wait at least 2 more months, into 2013. But, you've claimed you don't vote, so it's understandable you didn't realize Rick Perry won't go into office the day right after the election. :)
    4716) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1155290)
    Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What parents? No father, and the mother works full time. Child is raised by grandmother (no grandfather either)or by no one. You will not fix public education without fixing this problem. Any Ideas ? The solution would have to be radical and draconian.

    Here in the US we have created this underclass due to mis-guided welfare policies. Monetary assistance and public housing based on number of children and whether or not a father was living in the home.

    Well, we have a global warming problem too, perhaps the Chinese fix works for both problems.


    Well, Gary, you sure caned this thread, eh?
    4717) Message boards : Politics : The World's Largest Army? (Message 1155281)
    Posted 23 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I received this e-mail this morning. Seems like spam. But, regardless of facts and opinions, one thing struck me as wrong. I don't recall the US already being in Europe fighting Germany before Pearl Harbor ... ?

    " The Worlds Largest Army "
    True story and most people will never know it.. Here is an interesting side bar. After the Japanese decimated our fleet in Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941, they could have sent their troop ships and carriers directly to California to finish what they started. The prediction from our Chief of Staff was we would not be able to stop a massive invasion until they reached the Mississippi River . Remember, we had a 2 million man army and war ships...all fighting the Germans. So, why did they not invade? After the war, the remaining Japanese generals and admirals were asked that question. Their answer...they knew that almost every home had guns and the Americans knew how to use them. The world's largest army... America 's hunters! I had never thought about this.... A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion:There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin ... Allow me to restate that number. Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. More men under arms than in Iran .. More than in France and Germany combined. These men deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed. But that number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan 's 700,000 hunters, Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of just those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. The point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower. Hunting -- it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security. ************************************************* That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed. Food for thought when next we consider gun control.
    4718) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1153437)
    Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    John calling Bobby a troll? WTH? John, have you forgotten who Bobby is?
    4719) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1153436)
    Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    teaching children that violent acts are the way to enforce leadership is not a valuable lesson.


    I agree.

    The purpose of the slipper and the ruler in school was to instil, NOT enforce, acceptable standards of behaviour, to enable the teacher to teach the class in an appropriate environment conducive to learning.

    In the 1950's our parents taught us to respect our teachers, that you didn't steal others possessions, or trespass on others property. Clearly that doesn't happen today. Hence my opinion that most modern parents are useless at parenting.

    But it is NOT the Schools job to put that right!


    Sorry, Chris (and John), but there's never been a golden era. Stealing, trespassing and the link did not suddenly appear after you entered adulthood. They have been with us ever since we viewed certain things as our property. Codes of behavior or law going back, say 3500-5000 years, have said people should not steal. Why say you should not do it if it was not occurring? Now, taking into consideration all things that have been said in this thread, let us also consider that the world's human population keeps growing and growing, and the ability to observe and report on such activities are growing and growing. I suggest some of the reasons these things seemed to be less of a problem in the past is that there were less people, and it was easier to sweep things under the rug.
    4720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Female explorer wanted for companionship. (Message 1153059)
    Posted 17 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Norman, I'm sorry, they confused me for you. All the ladies have been PMing me. I explained their eros ... err, errors, and told them to contact you, and provided the link for sending you a PM. I hope they've followed through, as I think some would be real catches for you! :)
    4721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mod notices by PM....... (Message 1153058)
    Posted 17 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mod notices by PM

    I don't like them, as that means I need to go into messages and delete It.


    Too late now. All started 3-4 years ago with how a concern was supposed to be reported. This is just an extension of those changes, as I see it.
    4722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mod notices by PM....... (Message 1153057)
    Posted 17 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just try and interpret what happens from the big hand on the clock and where it point(s).

    I'm just too busy to post much anymore. And apparently I'm slightly less offensive than I used to be. ;)
    4723) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1153054)
    Posted 17 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Messiahs' Speech to Congress was Especially Strident.

    Like a Child at it's Dead Parents Grave begging for money for an ice cream cone.

    Duke getting Bashed from Every Quadrant.

    Low Poll numbers; Solyndra Fiasco; GOP winning Special Elections; Ghadaffi not found; Embassies being shot at; Whackos attacking Bases; Oh boy, The List keeps growing and The Speeches Keep Failing.

    Like The Shrub is Still in Office. Only Better.

    At least there is Still Basketball and Cig Breaks, eh Duke?

    Dull, Null and Void and A Thriving Barnacle.
    . Click it! :)
    4724) Message boards : Politics : Bring Back Caning In Schools? (Message 1152729)
    Posted 16 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I sometimes think people should have to apply for a licence to have kids.

    Like in China?
    4725) Message boards : Politics : TAX on Fast Food! (Message 1149579)
    Posted 6 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fast food is already taxed in the US.

    Virtually any purchase is taxed.
    While working on my Bachelor's degree, I worked in a retail store. A small amount of food was sold there. I can't remember for sure, but I think it was just stuff like bread and sugar free gum that was not taxed. And that was a little over 20 years ago.
    4726) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1148514)
    Posted 3 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well Michael, it won't be long before we have our backsides smacked for going off topic

    Oh Come On, going off-topic is the Time-Honored Way of Sticking It to The OP. You all can Giggle and Stab The OP in The Back while Looking him/her straight in The Eye.

    And The Mods(who are on your side, let you get away with it).

    No Biggie. I enjoy it. Some of The Off-Topic stuff is funny. Made me Giggle.

    Anyways, guess you Jokesters hadn't had any Friends/Loved ones Blown-Apart and Sent Home in Pieces. After 2006. When The Democrats Promised to Get US Out of Iraq NOW.

    Or maybe you did.

    Keep Off-Topic. It's fun, funny, entertaining and More Interesting than anything I can say.

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle.


    Some of the guys I'm pretty sure you're referring to as jokesters are guys I've been talking with 5 years, know fairly well, and I'd say in general follow a philosophy learning more towards conservative (if I ignore the comments about Thatcher). But go ahead and assume everyone is against you, all the time. It's not entertaining at all, but when we're being serious, it allows ot question our points of view or hone our arguments.
    4727) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1148091)
    Posted 2 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since 2006, Every DEATH, MUTILATION, INJURY, DISEASE and other Horrible Affliction as a result of ALL THE WARS is Directly Attributable to THE DEMOCRATS.

    You can't possibly believe that.

    What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    He is stating the reality of political discourse in the USA today.


    Which is not reality.
    So let's force reality's reality upon them, instead of joining them in their fantasy version of it.
    4728) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1148089)
    Posted 2 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i think they were into non-violent civil disobedience..

    Maybe I've had my terminology get mxied around over the years, but ... .
    I view "disobedience" as a tamer term; i.e., "civil disobedience" implies non-violence. Thus, rioting is not civil disobedience. Rioting is what it is: rioting. But, again, read my first sentence.

    Still waiting for Skil's response to my comment and Soft's to my question.


    Quite simply, as long as the commodity market continues, and oil is listed, then speculation on oil by those who have no material interest(i.e. they NEED to buy it or they themselves have it for sale) Continues.

    Simply put Dubya never stopped anyone from speculating on oil.


    Then it looks like you were responding to Skil, not me.


    Or you could consider it supportive to your (long ago obscured)post.


    OK, well, that wasn't clear. But which post? The one questioning Skil's assertion?
    4729) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1147899)
    Posted 1 Sep 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cognitive dissonance.
    4730) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1147731)
    Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Job.

    The Vaunted New Green Company Praised by Potus Going Under. Solyndra. 1100 more Jobs Down The Drain. DOE $500M Down The Drain. Photo Op on Solyndra Mfg. Floor picture collecting dust.

    Yep, Most People starting to feel like Job. Trials and Tribulations galore.

    And Peace Prize Potus NOT THERE to Help.

    Sure, Another Speech Coming. About Jobs. Again. And Again. And Again.

    Job aka The People. Your Pain is Felt. You know, like Slick Willie felt it.

    Only by Pure Luck, Willie Prezed during a The Final Peak of A Business Cycle.

    Change is A Coming America. Change from Your Dollar to Their Dollar.

    And you get Cents.

    Cents is Coming America. Dollar to Cents.

    Will Potus mention in His New, Shiny, 'Let's Get The Future Going' Speech The Solyndra Debacle. Naw. Nary a Word.

    I am Null and Void and A Darwin Barnacle


    No one owes you a job.
    No one should look to a President to get him or her a job.
    Get off your duff.
    Put out more applications.
    Do things to improve your resume, such as better your education.
    Quit being a whiny worm, claiming he hates Democrats and then wants the democratic President to provide jobs, when he know Reagan's mantra "Government doesn't create jobs." Quit being a whiny worm and become a man.
    4731) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1147460)
    Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i think they were into non-violent civil disobedience..

    Maybe I've had my terminology get mxied around over the years, but ... .
    I view "disobedience" as a tamer term; i.e., "civil disobedience" implies non-violence. Thus, rioting is not civil disobedience. Rioting is what it is: rioting. But, again, read my first sentence.

    Still waiting for Skil's response to my comment and Soft's to my question.


    Quite simply, as long as the commodity market continues, and oil is listed, then speculation on oil by those who have no material interest(i.e. they NEED to buy it or they themselves have it for sale) Continues.

    Simply put Dubya never stopped anyone from speculating on oil.


    Then it looks like you were responding to Skil, not me.
    4732) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1147302)
    Posted 31 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i think they were into non-violent civil disobedience..

    Maybe I've had my terminology get mxied around over the years, but ... .
    I view "disobedience" as a tamer term; i.e., "civil disobedience" implies non-violence. Thus, rioting is not civil disobedience. Rioting is what it is: rioting. But, again, read my first sentence.

    Still waiting for Skil's response to my comment and Soft's to my question.
    4733) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1147043)
    Posted 30 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The truth is that corporations are doing whatever they want, specially with commodities and with the price of energy. We are paying more for less, this is the truth, and no matter if you are in the US/UK/Australia/Portugal or even Singapore, there will be a time when people will get feed up with a situation, simply because it becomes unbearable.


    But surely you are not advocating civil disobedience? We just had a taste of tht in the UK.


    Would Gandhi or MLK Jr. accept this as an example of civil disobedience?
    4734) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1147042)
    Posted 30 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sad but true W actually set in motion the elimination of certain speculation(people that had no oil holdings or businesses involved in any way with oil) on Oil during his last few years in office. It had a nice chilling effect on speculator. Unfortunately, like most pond scum they seem to have found another means to survive off the very thing they were banned from

    Really? This does not sound like something George W. Bush would do. Please provide links or some sort of elaboration.
    I would think regulating things such as stem cell research was more up his alley.


    I was not aware the commodity exchange had stopped listing oil.

    How is this a response to my post?
    4735) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1146537)
    Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sad but true W actually set in motion the elimination of certain speculation(people that had no oil holdings or businesses involved in any way with oil) on Oil during his last few years in office. It had a nice chilling effect on speculator. Unfortunately, like most pond scum they seem to have found another means to survive off the very thing they were banned from

    Really? This does not sound like something George W. Bush would do. Please provide links or some sort of elaboration.
    I would think regulating things such as stem cell research was more up his alley.
    4736) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1146536)
    Posted 29 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    why go back to just the big bang, certainly something caused the big bang...

    There is no reason to assume a causal principle.

    why do we think TIME started at the moment of the big bang?

    Because that is when the dimension of time unfolded became greater than zero length.

    there is no reason not to...

    how do we know that time unfolded then?

    Actually there is a reason not to. Many people have a very hard time accepting it.

    I think therefore I am is false. You can not get to I am from thinking without an assumption of a causal principal. The rest of the things you need you can prove mathematically, but you have to assume causality.

    Here is the rub, If an artificial intelligence is capable of thinking, then you disprove causality. This because of a computing law about a program running on a simulator being unable to tell if it is running on a simulator or on real hardware. Hence thinking is unable to tell if it is a simulation or real.

    This leaves us with: I think, therefore there is thinking. And you and the world cease to be real. Besides with the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle we are at best a probability function. So it all neatly falls into place and we can not prove ourself to be real, but we can't exclude reality either.

    It is kind of circular, but until time unfolds, there isn't time. Therefore it did not exist before that. However I think you are trying to say that the other dimensions - X,Y,Z - unfolded after time. I'm not aware of a theory that has them unfolding at a different point. Perhaps that is inflation. I can't do the math.


    Sounds nihilistic.
    Anyway, which math can't you handle? Seems you've handled it well enough whenever you bring it up elsewhere.
    4737) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1146190)
    Posted 28 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The big bang may or may not have been the start of this particular universe. M-theory suggests a collision of membranes changed the frequency of the point of contact, hence allowing mass as we know it to exist, although it is purely theoretical.

    The way I see it, is that before I was born, I had a lot of practice being dead. I will be putting that practice to use one day. I don't remember much of the 13.7 billion years that elapsed before I was born, and I don't expect to remember much of the eons that will come after my death. The trick for me, is to stay alive as long as possible. It's too bad people don't live long enough to watch plate techtonics in action. To see mountains and seas rise and fall, and continents change shape. We get a tiny glimpse of what happens, but don't live anywhere near long enough to experience real changes to climate and topography. Even the Earth itself has only been here for about 4.5 billion years, and will be swallowed by the sun in about another 4 billion years. About the same time as the Andromeda galaxy collides with the Milkyway. The rest of the universe will continue on for about 10^100 years, when it will evaporate back into the membranes where it came from.......

    Steve

    While generally correct, I do believe events such as the 2004 tsunami did allow us to see changes in the shapes of landmasses, IIRC.
    4738) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1146189)
    Posted 28 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    plus Einstein's relativity theory has been proven on numerous occasions.
    he predicted gravitational lensing...and lo and behold it exists...
    his theory predicted black holes...and they exists..

    the simplest theory wins...

    that is the problem everyone has with "The Standard Model"
    its unwieldy, its cobbled together...it doesn't flow together...and there are
    huge gaps....


    String/M-theory builds on Relativity and Quantum Mechanics...
    and its the best answer so far...


    No.
    I found it interesting that I located a website where my question was echoed.
    And that same site reminded me, it's not "the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one," but that "all things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the best."
    I have some questions, which I am unable to frame just yet, but I still believe my point is a valid one.
    4739) Message boards : Politics : Damn the oil speculators........ (Message 1146188)
    Posted 28 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Just wow.
    You really want regulation?
    That stance flies in the face of the stances you take on so many other issues.
    Sure, blame it on Obama. Riiight. (Not that we could say politicians of either US party aren't rich.)
    4740) Message boards : Politics : How the government can be debt free in 6 months (Message 1144578)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, the US Empire will not follow the history of the rise and fall of empires recorded during the last 2,000 years. This makes the US , and the humans, different to all other ones in recent history ... I don't think so. You guys are still human, and most peoples have looked for independence as you suggest will happen.

    Looking to Governments, or another equal authoritarian power, to solve their problems has been a human reaction only during the last 50 years. Certainly, the rule of law in society has been the norm only for the last 100 years or so.


    To Rome, immigration was good, until it became bad.
    4741) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1144577)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    some cognitive researchers are positing that dreams are flashes of alternate universes...

    That's just multiple personalities talking.
    4742) Message boards : Politics : Jack Layton, may he rest in peace........... (Message 1144576)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for this CT.
    I'm still in a state of shock. Jack was a once in a generation type of politician.
    He leaves behind a powerful legacy of striving to improve the lot of common working people and I truly feel the fates have robbed Canadians of a golden opportunity.

    I just don't see anyone waiting in the wings who is capable of holding the torch quite as high as Jack Layton did.


    Wot's it matter?
    Your plan, "Between these oblivions" is to "drink beer, go fishing and get **** as often as the situation presents itself. :)"
    Oh, wait, was Layton protecting this? (Doubt it!)
    4743) Message boards : Politics : Libya (Message 1144465)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "With a name like Qgadafiy, he's GOT to be gone!"
    4744) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1144461)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and the proof of that is....

    There's no proof in either direction. So, I suspect he's trying to apply Occam's Razor.
    And it occurred to me in the last few days: which idea about gravity is simpler? Newton's or Einstein's? But which is accepted as closer to the truth, currently?
    General and special realtivity, and quantum mechanics are strange things. Can we really say still that the simplest explanation tends to be the best/correct one?
    4745) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1144387)
    Posted 24 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm dead in 8 dimensions already! I made an interdimensional call and asked.
    So, 1 more to go! Woo hoo!
    'Til then, landing on my paws.


    Do you get billed in Euros, Dollars, or Inter Galactic Credits?


    Skype!
    4746) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1144308)
    Posted 23 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The conscious, that part of you that tells you - you are living can be created again. Logically it can for it has produced you already once so what stops it all from happening for you again sometime. We and our consciousness's are solely the product of a conversion of energy into matter when our universe was created. There would have to be 'something' in the conversion that stops anything from being produced again if it has already been previously produced once in this or another universe in the past. Can anyone think what this 'something' could be? I can't for
    what ever this 'something' is then it would have to contain memory.



    if the "multiverse, 11 dimension" theory is correct...big if...then we may go on...unconsciously of this life...of course, we may already be dead in another
    dimension.....


    I'm dead in 8 dimensions already! I made an interdimensional call and asked.
    So, 1 more to go! Woo hoo!
    'Til then, landing on my paws.
    4747) Message boards : Politics : How the government can be debt free in 6 months (Message 1144306)
    Posted 23 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Absolutely. Though the Chancellor that reduced UK Debt as a %age of GDP between 1999 and 2002, was clearly a genius by comparison, right? I wonder what caused UK debt to go up in the years that followed ...


    During the period 1997 to 2002 the Labour Government (Gordon Brown) agreed to continue the previous Conservative Governments fiscal approach. But, after the next General Election returned Labour the public purse strings were loosened and all manner of crack pot schemes got money. Gordon Brown flung money at everyone during the period 2002 to 2007/2008.

    There was some good spending programmes, but most of them gave no social or fiscal return. While this wild spending was going on Gordon Brown was keeping to the Election promise of not raising direct tax. Instead he raided pensions (now see how the UK stands on private pensions from the position in 1997), raised more stealth taxes than anybody can shake a stick at, etc.

    Lots of money coming in, even more going out and no preparation for the downturn part of any economic cycle, as he had abolished Boom-and-Bust.

    The man should have been locked up after University and the key thrown away.


    Ahh, so it was typical Labour tax and spend, and nothing to do with wars?


    Tax & spend, bad; war, good?
    4748) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1143975)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One chance. No afterlife. No reincarnation. No returning to an "ultimate" source. You live. You die. That's it.


    Go on Ozz, prove it?


    Prove what?


    That we live? ;)
    4749) Message boards : Politics : how do you expect to spend eternity? (Message 1143974)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One chance. No afterlife. No reincarnation. No returning to an "ultimate" source. You live. You die. That's it.

    You missed the "you suffer" bit.

    Yep.
    Start following the sevenfold path now!
    It starts underneath this tree.

    Anywho, I know no better than any of you. What we do all know is: we'll be dead.
    4750) Message boards : Politics : Libya (Message 1143829)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PM Cameron has yet again cut short a replacement holiday to return to Downing Street because of it.


    Well done Mr Cameron

    Oil prices fall as rebels enter Libyan capital


    Yay, Mr. Obama! I knew you could bring down gas prices, Superman! Captain America! Woo hoo!
    4751) Message boards : Politics : Libya (Message 1143727)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [After The End, The Real War Starts.

    I can agree with this part, or at least the possibility.
    4752) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1143713)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My doing this won't guarantee they'll agree with me, and I am certainly not "entitled" to do this. In fact, for giving them so many red X reports to review, I would probably be the one receiving the ban.
    Last, if you are the type to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, just because you've done it or could do it does not mean you were/would be "entitled" to do it.

    P.S.-sorry you did not realize these were analogies.
    4753) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1143712)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gaming The System is A Fact of Life. And The People who do so believe they are Entitled to do so.

    The "Facts of Life" approach to viewing what "entitled" means was already tried earlier in the thread. I have stated that I reject it as a way to define the word. Just because someone does something does not mean they were entitled to do so. (There, I kept it short so you can get the point.)
    4754) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1143693)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The American Citizen or Non-Citizen is Entitled to Game The System. For All That They Can Get.

    Why Not. The Entitled(The Greedists[Corporations, Politicians, Rich People]) do it.

    Fill The Money Bags anyway you can.

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle


    That it happens does not mean we are entitled to it.
    See above posts.
    I may go red X every post you ever make, and attempt to convince the mods that you are insane and should receive what was once referred to as a perma-ban.
    My doing this won't guarantee they'll agree with me, and I am certainly not "entitled" to do this. In fact, for giving them so many red X reports to review, I would probably be the one receiving the ban.
    Last, if you are the type to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, just because you've done it or could do it does not mean you were/would be "entitled" to do it.
    4755) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1143669)
    Posted 22 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i'm sure that there has been some abuse of the EBT/Foodstamp program.
    however, the frequency that Mister Blurf regurgitates the same story
    brings its truthfulness into question.

    Then deal with your concern in a proper way. Trashing my thread because you have an issue with Blurf's honesty is not acceptable. Since you did not respond to the last three sentences of my my previous post, which you are responding to, indeed indicates to me that is your goal. Further attempts to carry out the sub-discussion ... in my thread ,,, so you can score a few points in an argument with Blurf will be met with my pressing the red-X. I am fully aware you are both former mods, that at the time Blurf was there was a conservative bent from many of those mods (though that does not necessarily apply to Blurf); that while you were a mod, the pendulum had swung mostly to the opposite direction; but, I am an independent.
    4756) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1143642)
    Posted 21 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i'm sorry you misunderstood me...
    i think you made the stories up...

    Hmmm. People taking advantage of a government handout (handup)? So, Phud, one would not find it much of a stretch of the imagination if you were to claim that "businesses used the stimulus money they were given to pass on huge bonuses to their execs" was a made-up story?
    In any case, how does your doubt of Blurf's sincerity contribute to the question I raised?

    I mistyped when I said stimulus. I was referring to the bailout money. Bailouts for the banks, specifically.
    While I reject the (Supreme Court?) decision that "corporations are people" (and not that they'll care, since it's just my opinion), corporations are made up of people, some of whom are greedy. I do not believe greed knows boundaries based on socioeconomic status and the like. Thus, I do not reject Blurf's story out of hand. However, I thought there are, or were, restrictions on how welfare money could be spent: that it could not be spent on alcoholic or tobacco products. Has this changed?
    Last, to the doubters, what are you going to type if and when he or someone else produces a video of such an incident?
    4757) Message boards : Politics : How the government can be debt free in 6 months (Message 1143541)
    Posted 21 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tax organized religion and organized crime. Close 70% of overseas bases, fire 50% of federal, state, local, gov't workers. Place a 25% tax on all goods from China.


    From your own profile:
    ABD in Operations Research from University of Illinois.
    From WIkipedia about the University of Illinois:
    The University of Illinois is a system of public universities in Illinois ...
    (Emphasis added.)
    Your professors were state employees. Were you a graduate teaching assistant during that time? Most likely, you were a state employee, as well.
    I believe you've indicated several times that you have taught, including statistics courses Did any of these occur at a public institution?
    4758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I soooo want one of these! (Message 1143150)
    Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, you can't have one.
    4759) Message boards : Politics : S&P Under investigation bu US authorities (Message 1142877)
    Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This all has to do with one thing. It is much easier for the DOJ to take one corporation into court rather than millions of liars for the fraud they did when they signed the loan papers.

    It should have never gotten to a point where people that were clearly not eligible were allowed to sign anything. Banks and mortgage institutions need to only look at themselves when they make paper that is worthless and they know it going into the sale. Remember they are the ones that are guarantying that the individual was cleared to get a loan.

    Banks??? What part of a mortgage broker is a bank? Why do you think they were called sub-prime. No part of a bank ever saw them!

    It was a wall street firm, now defunct, that should have caught on but "it was our most profitable line of business." They were making too damn much money to look at the total risk they were taking on. Since they were wall street they didn't have to prepare a risk report and pass it on to a regulator like a bank. Greed meet stupidity.

    The other people who should have caught on were a couple of Government chartered loan companies, but they were forced by law to buy even junk. Nice social engineering law that was and still is. Oh I suppose S&P should have caught on if it wasn't lied to, but that now defunct wall street firm was the one paying S&P's invoice.

    Radio commercials here are touting option ARM Super Jumbo's again, so it begins again as the laws still haven't been changed. SIGH! I thought there was supposed to be "Change."


    I always learned that changes begins within one's self. If your case is so strong, why are you only sharing it with us on the S@H message boards?
    4760) Message boards : Politics : S&P Under investigation bu US authorities (Message 1142872)
    Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This all has to do with one thing. It is much easier for the DOJ to take one corporation into court rather than millions of liars for the fraud they did when they signed the loan papers.


    If they lied, here are some of the possibilities:
    1) They've flown under the radar because, somehow, they managed to keep up with payments. Does this seem possible?
    2) They've been foreclosed on already. They have banks, creditors, whomever, harassing them for the money they owed before the foreclosure.
    3) They will be foreclosed on. They have all that to look forward to.
    4761) Message boards : Politics : S&P Under investigation bu US authorities (Message 1142869)
    Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't have proof, as I'm just expressing an opinion which of course you have the right to disagree.
    I also agree with you that President Obama is that kind of person, or have that kind of action line, however the momentum of the Investigation makes me wonder about it.
    Again I agree, that the rating agencies, sometimes act by some rules that can be very unclear.
    And for sure that the department of justice will find some ground to take them to court about this mortgage ratings that they have done.
    I don't have any proof on this, but all organizations have dirt under their carpets, and S&P is not an exception, the question is if someone is willing to dig enough


    News reports have already been saying the investigation was under way before the downgrade.
    4762) Message boards : Politics : S&P Under investigation bu US authorities (Message 1142868)
    Posted 20 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well said, Ozz. Excellent post throughout.

    For me this is pure and simple retaliation. Is the way of Obama's saying don't mess with me...


    Funny how we see two seemingly related topics and tie them together to draw a conclusion without proof.

    +1 on Google_, Like on Facebook!

    whatsupwithdat?

    Picturing Cliff Claven, in one of the last Cheers episodes, slapping his knees, asking "What's up with that?!?" and Norm is the only one at the comedy club.
    4763) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142613)
    Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The stimulus money for "shovel ready projects" went largely to the States so that they could keep from laying off their State employees. The fact that these employees are mostly Union workers whose dues go to support mostly Democratic Candidates (read Obama) is seen by some on the right as keeping a lock on those who vote democratic along with those who are the entitlement recipients. Hell, I am on Socialist Security and I vote Republican.

    As for entitlement. I am not entitled to anything that I or my immediate ancestors didn't earn other than the right to pursue what is guaranteed by the Constitution ;or in equal measure that I paid into.


    States laid off public employees anyway.
    If you paid into it, you deserve a return on it, correct?
    4764) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142479)
    Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I could say something, but I think it would just result in a flame fest so I'll just say don't judge someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes.


    I hope that's in response to the last few posts and not in response to my asking where you were (as I have stated that some of your posts were the inspiration for this thread).
    Phud: as a former mod, you should not be encouraging someone to say something that could lead to a flame fest. Please contribute directly to my thread or take a break.
    4765) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142459)
    Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i'm sorry you misunderstood me...
    i think you made the stories up...

    Hmmm. People taking advantage of a government handout (handup)? So, Phud, one would not find it much of a stretch of the imagination if you were to claim that "businesses used the stimulus money they were given to pass on huge bonuses to their execs" was a made-up story?
    In any case, how does your doubt of Blurf's sincerity contribute to the question I raised?
    4766) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142420)
    Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The point is, that an entitlement is only valid when everyone else also agrees. If I use a shop for 30 years and think that I'm entitled to walk in and go to the front of the queue, I might get a rude shock!

    It sounds, then, Chris, that you also essentially agree with me. "Wanting" versus "wanting because it is thought to be deserved." You add that "all must agree it is deserved."
    Wonder where Gary is?
    4767) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142415)
    Posted 19 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I didn't read it that way.

    And I didn't read it that way the first time through, either.
    Point is, that list is essentially a list of what animals (including humans) do, at least when they are able. And they are not always able to do so. So, I don't know how that is a list of things humans are entitled to.
    4768) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1142103)
    Posted 18 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ENTITLED...an interesting word.

    What are you actually entitled to.
    1). The body that your born with.
    2). The air that you breath.
    3). Natural Bodily functions.
    4). To mate.
    5). To have offspring.
    6). To eat.
    7). To drink.
    8). To communicate.
    9). To defend yourself.
    ....All things given to you by Mother Nature.


    I'm sure people will continue to try to deconstruct this. Not sure this post (yours or my response) helps the conversation.
    Entitled to mate? I am pretty sure that female lifeforms (i.e., not just human) around the world and throughout history (and prehistory) have "refused" (denied access to) certain males. These days. amongst we humans? Yeah, that really sounds like a good idea, claiming you are "entitled" to mate with a woman you want. I don't think that is going to go over very well.
    4769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chris' music question (Message 1141744)
    Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Try this link Bill. And yes I have followed your music endeavours over the past couple of years. Matt Lebofskys as well.

    Bill


    I fixed my link in the original post.
    Hope you liked the "teaser" clip. Busy, but hope to finish the rest in a few days.
    Don't forget to click the Facebook "Like" button! Daniel already did!
    4770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chris' music question (Message 1141708)
    Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris asked
    Hi Sarge! Hows the music career going?

    I wouldn't call it a career, but it has also certainly involved way beyond a hobby. A new song is in the works. Well, more of a re-do of a song we initially did a few years ago. New new songs may show up in a few months. To hear a portion of the "new" old one, visit http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_9770696. Warning: the song will auto-play once it has buffered enough.
    4771) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1141643)
    Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well Bobby, we are just going to have to agree to disagree then aren't we :-)

    A person thinking they were insulted does not necessarily make it so, thus is not grounds for an entitlement to an apology.

    It is to the person that FEELS they have been insulted.

    There are some that believe the passing of years is just cause for an entitlement to respect. I don't believe this is correct, to my way of thinking respect is earned by deeds done, not by the number of years lived.

    I don't know which generation you grew up in, but in mine, it was considered the right and proper thing to do, to respect your parents and grandparents. Your elders have lived a lot longer than you, which means they are probably quite wise and have a lot of experience and advice which they could pass on.

    When I see youngsters today say to an older person shuffling along the footpath, Oi, get out the way you silly old git, I just totally despair. I think you are wrong, but you are entitled to your opinion.



    Chris, you are correct that you did directly answer my question, but I have to think some more about how your response fits in and how it helps address the inspiration of my asking the question.
    I grant T.A. "entitlement" to discuss the UK rioting/looting here, as it fits in the "entitled" question, since, as I said, my asking the question was inspired by post of Gary's in that thread.
    Chris, I do not recall what it is that makes me think this, but I believe Bobby and I are around the same age, and Es is just a couple years younger than me. So, think of us as your nieces and nephews. Keep in mind, though, that Dune is now your brother-in-law, because he's my uncle too!
    As for elders being entitled respect: I suspect Bobby thinks in a way similar to me. (If not, he can say so.) Pragmatically. Here's an analogy. I would like to think that people start out inherently good. I would like to walk the streets of a city after sundown and not worry about being mugged, and not go around suspicious of anybody regardless of what they look like. I try to either treat people I run across in that or similar situations either well or at least neutrally. But that doesn't stop me from keeping my guard up when I am walking the streets.
    So, for the elderly, maybe what I would say, and perhaps what Bobby would say as well, is not that you are entitled to respect, but you should not be accorded disrespect simply for being older.
    (While many elderly may have wisdom to pass on, check out recent reports on the elderly couple that have written books on raising children, with no educational background in this, claiming that The Bible states God wants parents to inflict physical pain in their punishments. A couple that read one of their books beat their (adopted?) daughter to death!!!)
    4772) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1141625)
    Posted 17 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mr. Buffet speaks his mind. Despite his wealth, he keeps a sense of fair play. A very rare commodity on wall street.

    A talking point? I totally disagree. He is speaking his mind, not a partisan agenda.

    But entitled is just that.. "I think I deserve this". Whether it is a tax break, an unemployment check, maternity leave, a bigger piece of the pie..
    So entitlement is a mis-used word, implying selfishness as it is used today.

    Unless we consider survival an "entitlement". Most of the country is struggling to survive. A few are struggling(with lobbyists and connections at their disposal) to snap up every resource and potential that the masses might
    find some relief with.

    But a view you disagree with does not make it a talking point.


    Now, Soft, I cannot go read every post you've ever written, and I doubt you've read all of mine (ever while as a mod), but really, you have no basis for thinking Buffet's view is one I disagree with. I have not said one way or the other, explicitly or implicitly in this or any other thread. While he is not a politician, I have indeed made a decent case for how bringing up his statements from yesterday are indeed being used in this thread as partisan talking points (while none of those bringing him up are, presumably, politicians either).
    So, to cut to the chase regarding what I've asked: you and I are essentially in agreement as to what "entitled" means, though I suspect people can think they are entitled to something when they are not. However, indeed, I was stating "I want this" is a statement of selfishness.
    Now, let's see what others think.
    4773) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1141230)
    Posted 16 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not think I have heard of Warren Buffets positions as being talking points before. Fascinating.

    But obviously many feel entitled to subject the masses of working population, and the rapidly vanishing middle class to subsistant wages so that a few may live excessively well.


    Refer to my opening post.

    What does "entitled" mean to you?
    Is that what it really means?
    To me, I have interpreted it as "I am entitled to this" means "I want this because I deserve it."
    And, to me, that is different from simply "I want this."
    What are the thoughts of our community?


    Gary stated
    The root cause of the riots is Madison Avenue. They have done such a fantastic job of creating demand that people who have no chance in life of owning an item now have a burning desire for it and feel entitled to have it. The result is criminality to obtain it to satisfy the false desire. Uh, is that like lying on a loan application to buy a house?

    Perhaps governments should prevent children under the age of 15 from watching the telly or at least advertiser supported telly. Same for the net, a no ads net for kids. Kids are not mature enough to resist the scientifically crafted ads aimed at them. Ask any parent near XMAS about their children screaming gimme gimme gimme! They feel entitled, when they are not. They carry this through life. Life is: "The survival of the fit." Not "The survival of the entitled."


    As a side-note, I found it interesting, given that when Skildude rails against "The Man" and "Big Business," Gary provides an opposing view, yet here Gary concedes there is at least one instance in which they do have enormous power over young impressionable minds.

    But, specifically, I disagree with his use of "entitled." They want it. That is different from thinking they deserve it. What evidence is there that they think they deserve it?
    Digging isnto this could then lead to the discussion about other ways in which entitlement is used, specifically Social Security etc. ... .

    Just as there is a difference between "want" and "need," there's a difference between "want" and "deserve." Similarly, there is a difference between "submit" and "respect" (despite recent claims to the contrary, IMO).

    Yes, Buffet's statement is essentially a talking point: "The rich should pay higher taxes and shoulder an equal (or greater) burden." He merely builds on that a bit, by saying, I'm one of those super-rich guys and I do believe I should be carrying more of the burden.

    So, yes, drop the talking points for a while.
    It' quite simple. I want to know if you think "feeling entitled" means merely that "you want something," say so. If you think "feeling entitled" means "you want something because you think you deserve it" (my interpretation), say so.
    4774) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1140990)
    Posted 16 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "That sounds like a lot of money," wrote the Omaha, Neb.-based billionaire. "But what I paid was only 17.4% of my taxable income - and that's actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office."

    Interesting as the AMT tax rate is 28%. He must have some big AMT eligible deductions and there are far fewer things which are deductible under AMT rules.

    "Let's drop the talking points." (This applies to Soft, initially, and Gary following up on it.)
    Only Pasi Karonen and Bobby have directly addressed my question, and the question has been inspired by some of your posts, Gary.
    4775) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1140781)
    Posted 15 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We are Entitled to our Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness, along with The Other Unalienable Rights, and Not have them Reduced, Curtailed or Removed by those recieving Entitlements.

    I am Null and Void and A Darwin Barnacle.

    "I before E except after C!"
    "You make me unhappy.'
    "Care to discuss Libya?" :)
    4776) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1140587)
    Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you mean the dictionary definition or the current [ab]use of the word by conservatives in the US to deride anyone receiving a salary or benefit from the government?

    I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly, but this is part of the inspiration of the question. It is further inspired by a post of Gary's in the thread about the London riots. I do not follow his use of the word "entitled" there, referring to the younger generation(s), while he does concede, it seems, that the advertising industry has considerable power over young impressionable minds.
    4777) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1140426)
    Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I tend to vote regularly for the least bad choice I have.

    We all need a none of the above choice. Loose to none of the above and your name can never appear on a ballot again.

    Sounds like a version of Plurality with Elimination.
    4778) Message boards : Politics : Entitled (Message 1140423)
    Posted 14 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What does "entitled" mean to you?
    Is that what it really means?
    To me, I have interpreted it as "I am entitled to this" means "I want this because I deserve it."
    And, to me, that is different from simply "I want this."
    What are the thoughts of our community?
    4779) Message boards : Politics : UK Riots (Message 1139567)
    Posted 12 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why are seven year olds allowed in the streets after 6/7 PM?

    Why do some young parents do their laundry at a laundromat at midnight or 1 a.m., their 2 or 3 kids, all under 5, in tow? I saw that in 2001 or 2002. Stunning.
    4780) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1139565)
    Posted 12 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HE** YEAH! I Love Shock and Awe Baby!

    That was Iraq. I asked if you wished to discuss Libya further.
    Barry, I can name you 3 Norwichians right off the bat.
    4781) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138919)
    Posted 11 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, The Duke was A Shootist. Continuation of 2 Wars. But mostly, authorizing Strikes(Shooting) against Libya and Others. Hence, Duke Attribute, again.

    At any point, did you support the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq? I'll bet there's a good chance you did.
    As for Libya, 1988 or so, "A message to terrorists everywhere. You can run, but you can't hide." "Today, we have done what we had to do. He counted on America to be passive. He counted wrong." (Or something like that.) Who said it? About whom?

    Hint: At 4:56, here the voice of the quotee.. You will certainly recognize it.


    "Hear," that is.
    So, shall we talk Libya? Which president? Good for goose, good for gander?
    Effects on economy?
    4782) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138666)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've read Carl Sagan's Contact. Bet most SETI Crunchers can't say that. Wanna Bet on that Prof?

    I do not place bets.
    I read it before it was made into a movie.
    As the book/movie has come up before, there is at least 1 more than the 2 of us who have also read it.
    Upon what do you base your generlization?
    (Note: I grew up about 30 miles from Ithaca, where Cornell is, and saw Carl Sagan speak twice in person while I was in middle school aka junior high.)
    But, we can go tit-for-tat on these things, taking your own thread further off topic. :)
    4783) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138613)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did The Duke Speak Today?

    Aren't you the one that's retired? Sorry, some of us have to work and can't keep on all the trippings that come from all three sides.
    4784) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138611)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You never read a Benjamin Franklin biography?
    i was reading those at age 6!!!
    4785) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138609)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, The Duke was A Shootist. Continuation of 2 Wars. But mostly, authorizing Strikes(Shooting) against Libya and Others. Hence, Duke Attribute, again.

    At any point, did you support the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq? I'll bet there's a good chance you did.
    As for Libya, 1988 or so, "A message to terrorists everywhere. You can run, but you can't hide." "Today, we have done what we had to do. He counted on America to be passive. He counted wrong." (Or something like that.) Who said it? About whom?

    Hint: At 4:56, here the voice of the quotee.. You will certainly recognize it.
    4786) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138601)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are welcome for the continuing education, as I am a professor.

    The Duke aka John Wayne. JW swaggered. The Duke aka The Prez also Swaggers. Sometimes. If one can describe a chin up, looking down nose, and head-shift from side-to-side a swagger. I do. It's an effective arrogance show.

    Plus, The Duke was A Shootist. Continuation of 2 Wars. But mostly, authorizing Strikes(Shooting) against Libya and Others. Hence, Duke Attribute, again.

    Talk Radio. You would know more about it than I. Never listen to it. Only catch sound bites of it from watching TV news. Of course if one watches DEM/Lib News(msnbc) a person would get lots more right wing sound bites than me.

    I'm not a Professor, but more than one person has said I look like one. Of course when I Open my Mouth or Type, all doubt is Removed.

    I will Proffer I am An Idiot. As one of my ex-wives has said: King of the Idiots.

    So continue To Educate Prof and TagUp with Your Choice.

    The Problems will not Be Solved. However, they Will Evolve. Got Evolution?

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle.


    You, and others, say the president is arrogant: swaggering, looking down his nose, and so on.
    I see and hear a guy who says "Uhhh" a lot and has an annoying habit of clattering the buttons/cuffs on his suit jacket sleeves on the podium. The clattering is annoying.
    I haven't told you who I voted for.
    I never will.
    It's not your business.
    But to suggest ANY president, past or president, has (had) me hypnotized ... ha.
    Is anyone else? Maybe.
    But I think you want to exaggerate it.
    A plurality were, and maybe now are, hypnotized.
    It's certainly the theme of 2 or 3 commercials being aired my area the last few weeks.
    ("He spoke so beautifully. But now, I'm worried. There's got to be some way to take away Obama's blank check!")

    Blank check my arseschloch!
    4787) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138597)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will Proffer I am An Idiot. As one of my ex-wives has said: King of the Idiots.


    Says it all really .....


    So instead of taking personal shots at a man with admitted humility, why don't we stop obsessing over the fact that we disagree with him and simply allow him his opinions and viewpoints?

    Personally, I think his freestyle creative writing is really good, even if and regardless of the fact that his writing is anti-Obama.


    I'd give him more accreditation
    for his free style,
    if he'd give up obfuscation,
    even just once in a while. :)
    4788) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138421)
    Posted 10 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, and if you wish to be Orwellian, Prez and Pres are more easily recognized as abbreviations for President (of the United States). Besides, aren't prepositions usually left out when abbreviating?


    Thanks for The Continuing Education Sarge. Surprised SkilDude and you are not tag-teaming this one.

    The Duke aka The Messiah aka Potus is going on Vacation soon. Needs to rest DEM/Lib Vocal Cords for the Upcoming Fall Blitz against The GOP/T'ers.

    Solving is a Tough Job. I hope The Microphones are up To The Task.

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle.


    You are welcome for the continuing education, as I am a professor.
    Skildude is not. (As far as I can tell, he works in the biomedical industry, for lack of a better term.)
    I agree with Skildude sometimess.
    Sometimes I agree with Gary, Gary's comment 1-2 months ago to the contrary being ignored. chalked up by me to a misunderstanding.
    So, maybe Gary and I can also tag-team here in correcting you?
    Seriously, how many nicknames do you have for Obama? How many nicknames were there for Bush? "Dubya" and "Bush II"? That's pretty much about it, right? On the surface, these were to distinguish him from his father. Digging deeper, they mock.
    In a typical move of the last 2-3 years, rather than rising above as they did in the mid-90s, now those that are vehemently upset with the current administration resort to "What's good for the goose is good for the gander"---sevenfold. Remember that some sore loser, if and when the tide turns again, will then return it seven and seven fold.
    Worse, your use of these wildly varying nicknames obfuscate whom you are talking about. I have yet to hear anyone else ... anyone! ... refer to Obama as "Duke." Where'd you get this from?!? Did you make it up? Is it a code amongst those that listen to talk radio all day long?
    4789) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1138054)
    Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Right is Right on this one. Cut, Cap and Balance. Makes Perfect Sense.

    The Left is using Scare Tactics. They should be ashamed. They know Bush won Two Terms using Scare and they desperately want 2 Terms for Their Messiah. Scare is their only Power.

    The Real Messiah needed only 3 Years. Potus is in his 3rd Year and is losing his followers/Deciples. His Sermons at The Dais(with Telepromter) is not doing it. Believers are few and far between. All Potus has is The Bully Pulpit.

    The Bully Pulpit and its Surrounding Structure will fall down.

    The 'ists will out. The 'ists are it.

    I am Null and Void.



    The only ones who call him a messiah are those who didn't, and don't, want him to be a Messiah. So they can claim those who chose differently were zombies picking the WRONG messiah. LOL! Don't worry, Wormy, there will NOT be ANY messiah.

    Oh, and if you wish to be Orwellian, Prez and Pres are more easily recognized as abbreviations for President (of the United States). Besides, aren't prepositions usually left out when abbreviating?
    4790) Message boards : Politics : Global warming debunked........by NASA. (Message 1138053)
    Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    heating being dissipated into space. They should come to good old DFW. you can go outside at 5 AM and still feel the heat on the pavement from the previous day. That's substantial heating. let alone that it stays in the high 80's overnight and the tap water is closer to bath water temperatures.

    I give my place 30 to 60 minutes to get to 80 degrees with the air conditioner off. When I return, turn it back on, it takes until some time between midnight and 5 a.m. to have the place back to 70 or a little below.
    But ... this is also some of the furthest south I have lived.
    4791) Message boards : Politics : Global warming debunked........by NASA. (Message 1138051)
    Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yup......Al Gore been hoodwinking you.

    Most of you believe NASA.

    Here is their take on the subject of CO2 and global warming.
    It just ain't so.

    It's an urban myth, my friends.


    I doubt most here will mind the blunt language.
    Gore calls it BS!.
    Is this better than him kissing his (ex)wife to convince us he wasn't/isn't a robot?
    4792) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137873)
    Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Potus Spake Again Today. I'll let others do the math on number of Speeches since 2007(Campaigning) or 2004(Democratic Convention).

    Potus gets a Tripe AAA BS'er rating for todays Inspiration.

    Potus POINTED out The Problems are Solvable.

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle.


    Pow-Neigh-Lorahn
    4793) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137871)
    Posted 9 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Potus Spake Again Today. I'll let others do the math on number of Speeches since 2007(Campaigning) or 2004(Democratic Convention).

    Potus gets a Tripe AAA BS'er rating for todays Inspiration.

    Potus POINTED out The Problems are Solvable.

    I am Null and Void and a Darwin Barnacle.


    I'm sorry.
    Who are you speaking about?
    Obama?
    Duke?
    Potus?
    Mabus, maybe? Evil snicker.
    4794) Message boards : Politics : Global warming debunked........by NASA. (Message 1137764)
    Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yup......Al Gore been hoodwinking you.

    Most of you believe NASA.

    Here is their take on the subject of CO2 and global warming.
    It just ain't so.

    It's an urban myth, my friends.


    These days, geese can't even make up their minds when to fly South out of Wisconsin for the winter, and then fly North to return. They leave and arrive in fits and starts in the Fall and again in the Spring.

    But, no, let's not consider the possibility that those trying to determine if climate change is occurring, and whether humanity has a sizable effect on it, would look at multiple areas ... not just run computer simulations on various scenarios.
    4795) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137761)
    Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would REALLY like to see the Norquistican/Tea Party form itself formally as a third party and then run a full slate of candidates, along side Republican and Democrat candidates in the coming election.[/quote]

    That would assure the re-election of the president. The 40% who don't pay taxes and/or the 44% who get a check from the government would vote Democratic, Moderates and right wingers would split the Republican vote.

    We would have to allow all the states to split the electoral vote and then have a runoff among the top two. As of now it's winner-take-all in most states. Technically, the electors are not bound to vote for the plurality winner but so far as I know they do.[/quote]

    Most states? What state does NOT use Plurality?
    (And, I think if we looked, we might find rare instances where the elector did not vote in the direction of the Plurality winner of the popular vote.)
    4796) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137760)
    Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One man out of 307 Million People is Stopping it.

    The Person who during 18 months of an Election Campaign in '07-'08 said at least 100,000 Times, 'Change is Coming to America'. One man. The Prez.

    He said 'Change'. He meant He is The One to 'Change' Washington. Not with Help. Him and Him alone. Through Leadership. Through being The "Adult" in The Room-In Washington. That is what he hypnotized Independents and Republicans into Believing and voting for Him. Dem/Libs needed No Convincing. They were already Zombietized. They were already Spewing out their ears with The Koolaid.

    The Nobel Peace Prize Winner. The Adult in The Room. The Change Agent. The Messiah. The One and Only out of 307 Million. The Potus.

    Lead Now. Change Now. Walk The Talk Now. Plenty of The 307 Million Remember The Speeches.

    Maybe Billary was Right. Ouch.

    I am Null and Void.







    Ha.
    Ha ha.
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
    OMG, you're ramblings would make me roll on the floor, but I was never told to roll on floors in the speeches, so I can't!!!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

    I'd keep on typing "HA"s, but besides the fact that I wasn't told to in speeches, well, even most of people across the spectrum realize how ridiculously you make your points ... when you make a point, that is.
    4797) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137756)
    Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Pres now says that whether or not he wins a second term depends entirely on him and not who the Republicans choose. Well, duhhh. A President who runs for a second term and looses or decides not to run has always had only himself to blame.

    Looses?
    What is he loosening?
    The knot on his tie?
    If he's not re-elected, he LOSES, not LOOSES.
    For something-or-other's sake or lack of sake, SPELL IT RIGHT.
    4798) Message boards : Politics : Prez is Good, Real Good. You've Won. Time to Get 'er Done. (Message 1137755)
    Posted 8 Aug 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Speeches were Dollars, I wouldn't worry anymore. From the song by Don Henley-If Dirt were Dollars.

    Prez doing another Speech again today. Maybe this speech will accomplish something. You know like the thousands of other Speeches he has done.

    The Real Messiahs' Speeches have lasted over 2000 years. Want to bet on This Messiahs' Speeches Longevity?

    3 Wars(actually more); Financial Collaspe Pending; High Unemployment; but Speech Writers are making a Great Living.

    I am Null and Void


    365 * 3 = 1095.
    Now, yes, we're a few months away from him being in office for 3 years. So, if he has given a speech a day, then we barely get into the "thousand" range. But, you have pluralized thousand, to make it thousands.

    And you get made when others exaggerate. Shame, shame, SHAME! Ya shoulda known better ... than to exaggerate to me. Shame, SHAME, *SHAME*! Now it don't matta!
    4799) Message boards : Politics : Boinc's Death Knell? (Message 1128894)
    Posted 17 Jul 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah -- OK -- I thought you were saying your classic 'credits' were merged into your account -- they are listed separately -- as our mine -- I was a busy camper even back then so I have 168,000 work units and 905,547 hours. I wonder what that would be worth in CreditNew credits <smile>


    Sorry that wasn't clear, Barry.
    4800) Message boards : Politics : Boinc's Death Knell? (Message 1128892)
    Posted 17 Jul 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I opened my classic account, the e-mail address I used was a .edu account. Once someone leaves an educational institution, the e-mail account only remains open for something like 6 months to a year, depending on the institution and what you did there. (Student? Faculty?)


    There's your mistake. You thought that the email needed to be a currently active one to join a Classic account to a BOINC account. In fact, the old email does not need to be active to "merge" a Classic account with a BOINC account.


    If that's the case, all that needed be done was the intermediary could have sent me a link with short instructions on how to accomplish it, or the admin could have provided the intermediary the link to then provide to me.

    Furthermore, without the earlier e-mail address being valid anymore, how would one validate they indeed the Classic account?

    Nevertheless, the merger was accomplished, and, as you said, that situation doesn't fall under what was being discussed here.

    Glad we agree.
    4801) Message boards : Politics : Boinc's Death Knell? (Message 1128560)
    Posted 17 Jul 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why credit is screwed anyway.

    It is based on a FLOP count, if that is counted accurately, and it is not. But it completely ignores the true amount of work done for a project. It ignores the cost of electricity and the cost of the network connectivity and the cost of the computing box. If you want a fair credit comparison then those factors must be included. It also doesn't reward the right people. If someone runs boxes at work on his account (with permission) the company is supplying the electricity, network connection and cost of the computers, but they are not getting the credit. I wonder is the IRS would want all that countable cash included on the W-2 form for the person getting the credit?


    The Dean is aware I run BOINC on the two desktops in my office and that it is running when I bring my laptop to the office as well. I told him that if I was told to stop running it, I would comply, to save the university money for electricity. He said we probably weren't at that point yet, so just be sure I made wise choices for the screensaver settings, which I believe I already have.
    4802) Message boards : Politics : Boinc's Death Knell? (Message 1128555)
    Posted 17 Jul 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AFIK people are selling credits now. All they need do is crunch for a while and offer the account for sale. After the cash arrives, send the password and create a new BOINC account and do it all over. The buyer who now has control over the account just gets it merged with his account and the deal is done.

    Perhaps better is acknowledging the truth as it exists and setting up a credit trading board where BOINC and the projects get a cut when the sales happen.

    you can't merge accounts. They made sure of this because as I recall there were a few bad eggs in the old seti that were somehow merging their accounts.

    A user can't but an admin can. Attach some tears to the e-mail and ...


    I will step forward and state that I am someone who had his BOINC account merged with an older account from the S@H classic days. This was done by an admin. Eric, perhaps? No crocodile tears were involved.
    When I opened my classic account, the e-mail address I used was a .edu account. Once someone leaves an educational institution, the e-mail account only remains open for something like 6 months to a year, depending on the institution and what you did there. (Student? Faculty?)
    If you look at my account, if it shows you, you will see "SETI@home classic workunits 2,329
    SETI@home classic CPU time 81,529 hours."
    This did not show up until late 2006 or some time in 2007. I mentioned it to someone, and apparently that someone passed on word to an admin (Eric?) and not long after that, the information showed up, accounts merged.
    I may have had to state what the earlier e-mail address had been. I'm not sure if I was asked that.
    Hopefully the discussion about "bad apples" is not including this being done for my account.
    4803) Message boards : Politics : Buh bye, Blago! (Message 1122269)
    Posted 28 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He'll get long enough he won't be out on appeal, and he has none.

    Oops! Sawwy this thread didn't fit the mold of the absolutist position you believe I hold.
    But all these "appeal" puns are great fun. :)
    4804) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1122185)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cite please.

    P.S.-in my circles, citing doesn't just mean throwing in numbers. Citing includes quoting, and, short of quoting, providing a summary of someone else's statements. Those statements may be either opinion or from research. A citation will carry more weight when it is based on evidence eloquently summarizes statements, boiling things down to their essence. A citation includes what one's source(s) were.
    Including numbers means nothing. If I am wrong and it does, well ... 42! I rest my 42 case. Thank you, Cleveland! Good night!!!
    4805) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1122172)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But when you take absolutist positions you usually do.

    Also incorrect. Ha ha. Maybe you should read some of my posts from 2006-2007, except the ones where Chuck drove me to exasperation. :)

    Ah, you have zero reading comprehension or at least can't understand the concept of a paragraph. Now I understand. <plonk>

    Your shortest response ever?
    Seriously, the whole "poor reading comprehension" and "plonk" things didn't work for a certain former mod, and they don't work for you. In fact, they are beneath you.
    Also beneath you is putting words and thoughts in the mouths and minds of others.
    You do understand that this compliments your usual posting style, right?
    4806) Message boards : Politics : Buh bye, Blago! (Message 1122169)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    300 years in prison! Woo hoo! See ya when ya get out!
    4807) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1122159)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Census. 308,745,538 is the 2010 U.S. population stated there. In fact, this figure probably is in dispute. Those that would argue would probably argue it is higher, for various reasons. So, suppose Michele's inheritance she is fighting for is supposed to be $308,745,538. Divide this across the U.S. population, and we each get $1.


    So you're saying that each person in the U.S. will get $1 if Michele were to get $300 to $400 Million. I love how you break it down to sound so little for everyone else, but that's a large chunk of change to forceably take from us for having done nothing.[/quote[

    Rather than read everything, you respond angrily. I said "It matters to you and Michele," did I not? DO you deny this? Do you deny that the rest of us getting $1 is virtually worthless to most of us?

    Well it does actually. Because it sounds to me like you're saying you're perfectly OK with taxing inheritance and forceably taking money from other people seemingly just to profit off the death of another.


    I said no such thing.
    Thus, still state laws do matter one bit to the point I am making.
    DO not put words and thoughts into the mouths and minds of others.
    (Haven't we been here before, minus the l33+ version of the name? 4 years ago?)

    If you want to make it sound so little that it's not even going to help anybody else, then I'll gladly ask everyone for our money back. It wasn't their father who busted his ass and died for it.


    Once more. Clarification should not be necessary, but you'll get it, one last time.
    Little to us. Not to you and Michele. Get it?!? Leave your analogies about the price of a motorcycle out of it.
    4808) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1122157)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW Sarge, since you now want to claim what skildude wrote, both on taxes and jobs regarding tax cuts ...

    Incorrect assumption.

    But when you take absolutist positions you usually do.

    Also incorrect. Ha ha. Maybe you should read some of my posts from 2006-2007, except the ones where Chuck drove me to exasperation. :)

    Sarge if all you wanted to do was keep the thread going and not let it die, then perhaps you should have taken a different tack.


    Eh? This is a young thread. Not much time had passed since the previous post, relatively speaking. This is by no means thread necromancing.
    4809) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1121886)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm rooting for the GOP this time around. I hope they don't budge on tax breaks or tax hikes. I can't afford any more taxes as it is, nor do I think the entire US deserves a bit of Michele's inheritance (that she's still battling for in court) just for the "price" of living in the U.S.A.

    Suppose your Michele has a $300 million to $400 million inheritance owed her. Then we'll a get a wonderful one buck[. Darn her for being selfish.


    Can you provide a source for your data? I do believe the law varies by state as well.


    While I have some questions for you, I will hold them off for the moment. (I say this because this was not the type of response I expected from you.) I don't think this is too hard to follow. While much maligned, it should only be maligned for those things in dispute. To double-check what I believed to remember, I went to Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Census. 308,745,538 is the 2010 U.S. population stated there. In fact, this figure probably is in dispute. Those that would argue would probably argue it is higher, for various reasons. So, suppose Michele's inheritance she is fighting for is supposed to be $308,745,538. Divide this across the U.S. population, and we each get $1. If you "wish" to also have it spread out to those not counted for some reason (perhaps illegal immigrants?), that number will of course go down somewhat. If, on the other hand, we should only send it to adults, leaving out the children, ok, the figure will come back up ... slightly.

    Laws varying state by state have nothing to do with this portion of the discussion.

    I was simply responding to the part where you said "I [do not] think the entire US deserves a bit of Michele's inheritance (that she's still battling for in court) just for the "price" of living in the U.S.A."

    Whatever the amount of money, I am sure it matters to Michele, and you, but if you wish to make the case that, if she is not awarded the inheritance, this is an example of redistribution of wealth ("to the entire US" (emphasis added), well, I do not buy that. One ... hey, I'll even make it two ... dollar(s) per person isn't going to help the rest of us much at all. (And that's all using the assumption that the inheritance being battled over in court is as huge as the figure I have used.)
    4810) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1121885)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cutting taxes to the wealthy has never generated jobs or increased tax revenue.

    Cite please. World wide and for recorded history. We know that cutting taxes from 100% to 50% will increase tax revenue so that part of your statement is false from the get go.


    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Cite, please. Preferabky, from multiple sources from widely varying points of view.

    Why are you so hung up on working for the man? In your life you have never worked for a small business?


    For the record, I have; 2 small organizations at the least.
    4811) Message boards : Politics : Prices (Message 1121884)
    Posted 27 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    UK petrol prices are getting completely out of hand. Over here I pay £1.45/litre for 99 RON petrol, which is £6.58 per UK gallon. A year ago I could do a round trip of about 120 miles for £15 of petrol, now the same trip takes nearly £20, a 1/3 increase.

    So I still only spend the same monthy outgoings on fuel, I just have to drive less miles for the fuel I buy. The buggers won't get any more money out of me, the higher they push the prices, the less I will drive. Saves wear and tear on the car as well.


    The point of the thread was this: simplistic thinking leads certain people to simple answers. Case in point, as prices went up, one person ... Obama ... was to blame. (Obama was apparently also to blame in the summer of 2008, too? Or was it George W. Bush? I guess it depends on if you seek simplistic answers, then which party do you affiliate with, and do you remember that the campaign was not over and Obama hadn't even been elected yet.) So, with the decreases I have recently seen, it must be because of Obama, as well. Not too worry, we'll still throw him some blame because he can't help control gas prices for Chris over in the UK.
    4812) Message boards : Politics : Which Way to Economic Recovery?? (Message 1121586)
    Posted 25 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm rooting for the GOP this time around. I hope they don't budge on tax breaks or tax hikes. I can't afford any more taxes as it is, nor do I think the entire US deserves a bit of Michele's inheritance (that she's still battling for in court) just for the "price" of living in the U.S.A.

    Suppose your Michele has a $300 million to $400 million inheritance owed her. Then we'll a get a wonderful one buck[. Darn her for being selfish.
    4813) Message boards : Politics : Prices (Message 1121554)
    Posted 25 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gas prices down $0.20! Praise Obama!
    4814) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1118163)
    Posted 17 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What no-ne has mentioned so far is the phenomenen where people are quite strongly atheist or agnostic for all of their lives, and then at the final knockings, they suddenly go all religious just to hedge their bets. Seen it many times.


    It's not unusual for someone who has enjoyed living life to wish to cling to the hope of continuing the journey afterward. Hope is certainly a strong constant for most humans, but I wouldn't conclude that because one has hope at death that somehow it is proof of spirituality.


    Life is misery and suffering.
    Let us hope reincarnation is a cruel lie or that the ledger indicates a karmic residue of 0 on this go around.

    ;)
    4815) Message boards : Politics : Sarah Palin (Message 1113283)
    Posted 5 Jun 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since her parents moved the Heath family to Alaska when she was only a few months old, perhaps they failed to take her on vacations where she could learn our history by traveling throughout the lower 48. And, further, she's making up for not having done that for her own children until now.

    I'm glad she set us lowly 48ers straight on what Paul Revere did.
    4816) Message boards : Politics : A Misogynist World - Minus 8 MILLION women! (Message 1109835)
    Posted 26 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yeah a few more men per women are born and darwin clears out a few men as the population ages until there are fewer men than woman

    Indeed.
    4817) Message boards : Politics : A Misogynist World - Minus 8 MILLION women! (Message 1109833)
    Posted 26 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    don't you mean 3 sets of 3 zeros. 6,000,000,000 for brits its 6,000 million

    You are correct, I erred. I reversed things. A billion in the UK has 2 sets of three zeros. We have 3 sets.[/list]
    4818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1109828)
    Posted 26 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge you tried to do the right thing-I'm sorry it didn't work out.

    Once I was able to get the one kitten, I should've taken her home. But, I can't change what is.
    4819) Message boards : Politics : A Misogynist World - Minus 8 MILLION women! (Message 1109479)
    Posted 25 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Theoretically, for each birth, P(B) = 1/2 and P(G) = 1/2.
    I think you will find empirically, the percentages of women is somewhere between 50 and 51 percent. The percentage of men is below 50%, but not below 49%.
    Now multiply by a number between 6 billion and 7 billion. (To avoid confusion in the UK, that's 6 or 7 followed by two sets of three zeros.)

    By no means, though, does this justify misognystic behaviors/policies.
    4820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1109441)
    Posted 24 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Sarge -
    Sorry to hear your efforts came to nought. But at least you made the effort to help them.

    Maybe the next time......


    Glen says feral cats can have 2 litters a year. I suspect with the loss of both her kittens, she may go back into heat almost immediately. (Is this a good guess?) So, we might see more kittens by late summer, early fall.
    4821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Luck changes for kitties (Message 1109203)
    Posted 23 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's a coffee shop I go to downtown when I have grading to do.
    Every 30 to 60 minutes I like to take a break on the patio outback.
    Last summer i spotted some cats traipsing around that area into a fenced off adjoining area.
    It turns out the cats are feral, but have been willing to accept the food the coffee shop owner leaves out back, underneath a Winnebago-type camper they've been using in the back parking lot for extra storage space.
    Well, one of the young cats I spotted last year is probably around 1 year old now. In the past few months, I've been able to get her to allow me to come closer and closer; within 2 feet, then within 6 inches, etc. ... . It usually works best when I have food in my hand, she has the fence in between us, and i put the food down for her.
    I and a friend, who helps me grade, were a bit shocked 2 months ago to see she'd had some kittens. I think she only had 2. That's all we've ever seen, though 1 or 2 of the coffee shop employees thought there might have been 3 kittens.
    Last Friday, with the gate to the adjoining fenced-in area unlocked, I ventured to see how close the "mama" cat would let me come to her and to her kittens. Without the fence in between us, mama won't let me any closer than 2 feet again. Being feral, she's ultimately looking out for herself if something gets to close to her kittens, I guess.
    Well, I was able to pick up 1 of the 2 kittens. Repeatedly. Gently, I carried her out, went around to the back entrance to the coffee shop, opened the door, and called to the owner, then pointed to the kitten.
    My hope has been to capture all 3 cats: mama and her 2 kittens. I want them to have a good home. I'd rather they not be separated, if at all possible.
    So, I put the kitten back. I told Glen, the friend and grading assistant, that I had been successful at picking up 1 of the kittens, repeatedly. We agreed to meet there Sunday to see if, with 2 people involved, both kittens could be picked up. The idea was to see if we could do this repeatedly. Then, to bring in a third person, one that could try to capture the mama cat as well. Overall, the plan was, once it was known what home all 3 could go to (if they could be kept together), to pick up the 2 kittens and trick mama into following one of her usual escape paths and finding a human just out of sight then having a pet (animal companion) carrier set up that she would accidentally run in to. With the 2 kittens picked up and mama in a carrier, all 3 could go to a new and loving home.

    When Glen and I arrived Sunday afternoon to make a test run for the 2 kittens, we quickly found those plans had been ruined.
    The gate to the fenced-in area was still unlocked. I walked back to one of the usual area I could find them in, near a stack of wood piled up against the window of a largely unused building near the coffee shop. As I got closer, mama cat moved off, following one of her usual paths. Then I could see part of 1 of the kittens. Something wasn't right. Then I realized I was really seeing parts, in separate spots!
    I quickly exited, and told Glen what I'd seen. He figures a dog, or fox (apparently fox sightings are not unusual around here, even downtown at night) went in Saturday night and snagged the 1 kitten. I think that was the kitten I'd manage to pick up and carry on Friday.
    Later, Glen went to look for himself. As he did so, I looked more closely at the stack of wood. I saw one of the kittens' head between two pieces of wood. This one lacked the extra orange, just black and white, compared to the kitten I picked up.
    So, apparently mama lost both her kittens Saturday night or so. We figure the dog or fox got in, went across some of the wood, while one kitten was nestled inside ... it's movement shifted the wood enough for the kitten to get trapped, and meanwhile the dog or fox was able to then snag the other kitten just after stepping off the wood.

    It's disappointing, because just two days before, I'd been able to pick up one of the kittens. I could tell neither was in perfect health. I knew I was close to getting them all at the same time, and I just had to be sure I could get them all in a good home, perhaps the same one.
    So close, and then the law of the wild kicks in before I could enact the overall plan.
    :(
    4822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good news? (Message 1107435)
    Posted 18 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I believe this to be the usual confusion between SETI@home and the SETI Institute. Journalists are simply unable to grasp the difference.
    Tullio

    Agreed, It's like they see the word Seti and then think their the same place, When their not.

    Similar to there, their and they're being pronounced the same.
    They are not the same place, hence they're.
    also note the domain in the link: Berkeley itself. They above all should not be making this kind of error.
    4823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brazil on Star Trek (Message 1107094)
    Posted 17 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A country where a senator's chauffeur is paid more than a navy official who commands a frigate.
    A country where an elevator operator of the congress is paid more than an air force official who flies a jet fighter.
    A country where the "director" of the senate's garage is paid more than an army general who commands a military region.
    A country where a senate's "director of nothing", who is called director on paper just to have a higher paygrade, is paid more than an university professor with a doctorate and international prestige.
    A country where a 3rd level congressional aide is paid more than a scientist researcher of the Oswaldo Cruz Institute, a public health research center which develops cures and vaccines.
    A country wich has the largest and most biodiverse forest in the world but chop it down to make room for soy and cattle.
    A country that is rich (#7 GDP in world) but its people are poor.
    A country that has high taxes but terrible public services.
    A country that moves its production mainly by roads but has very poorly maintained roads.


    Wait. This is different ... how?
    4824) Message boards : Politics : SocialSecurity in Far Worse Shape Than You Think (Message 1107091)
    Posted 17 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So bad, the two words have had to be merged into one.
    Oh, crap. I broke my promise to myself. I posted in a keith (yes, with lower case k) thread.
    4825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Now I think I know........ (Message 1106843)
    Posted 16 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think some Socratic thinking would be best here.
    Or, at least, Sergeant Schultz: "Ich kenne nicht!" oder "I know nottingnk!"
    4826) Message boards : Politics : Frankly,,,,,,,I wish (Message 1106623)
    Posted 15 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, I have some wishes, too. Oh, well, that's life.
    4827) Message boards : Politics : 3 Tanks of gas since January... (Message 1105490)
    Posted 12 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's see, how many tanks of gas have I used since, say, oh, 1994?
    Well, there have been the occasional rentals.
    And how much have I contributed towards this when using public transportation?
    But, I can say since April 2008, I have not filled a tank of gas. Period.
    My legs carry me far and fast, and have done so for a long time. Even if the upper body isn't great, I retain the legs people used to think were soccer player legs. :)
    4828) Message boards : Politics : Ohhh, snaAAPPp! (Message 1105488)
    Posted 12 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I *told* you *not* to do it!
    4829) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104989)
    Posted 10 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    McVeigh.

    Klebold

    and Harris.
    (90 mile trip.)
    That guy Guy says we forgot already, that shot Gabbie Giffords.
    Unibomber.
    4830) Message boards : Politics : Ohhh, snaAAPPp! (Message 1104872)
    Posted 10 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When Jon Stewart commands you to take a Google break, don't do it!
    Do NOT google (Rick) "Santorum".
    4831) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104862)
    Posted 10 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Legality, schmegality (smeagol)!
    Pakistan acted as our ally in the "war against terror," and Osama Bin laden was a war criminal.


    I'm wondering how legal, schmegal America would feel if another country covertly sent equipment and troops onto American soil to assassinate or capture someone.
    Just sayin'


    Can't count on the Pakistanis. We've let them know of ongoing operations before whereby the target conveniently disappears. The ISI is not committed and are duplicitous. Pakistan also has these random prison breaks where umpteen terrorists suddenly break out by accident in the dead of night. *rolleyes*

    The blustering from Pakistan over their airwaves the last few days is probably for face saving and domestic consumption. No biggie.

    This was a perfectly good killing and trying to capture him could have proven fatal to the SEALS.

    I would have no problem with the government of a country snatching up a terrorist here. I would hope we'd kill the SOB first. As for Americans like Adam Gadan joining the Taliban or AQ or whoever overseas, screw them. They deserve to be killed by us also, American passport or not. I have no sympathy for turncoats.


    McVeigh.
    4832) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104709)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, essentially, you're saying it's lazy and cowardly. (With no evidence, then. A very big assumption.)


    No. I'm saying that, like Penn says, it's a binary theological question. You either believe there's a deity or you don't believe there's a deity. It's a belief, and you can't "not" have a belief.


    And again, I direct you to read the thread i posted links to, where one of your fellow atheists said, repeatedly, he "believed nothing."

    And most people reject false dichotomies, btw.
    4833) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104708)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's be clear on this: G.W. Bush did NOT behead Saddam Hussein. It was a poorly tied noose. G.W. Bush just happened to be the one that recognized, "Oh, no! It's tied too loose! He's gonna be be- be- you know, that word where ya lose yur head!" It was not a Bush victory, but a ... ?

    Let's be clear on this: Admiral Ackbar did NOT destroy the Death Star. A Rebel Pilot in the Red Squadron did. Ackbar just happened to be the one that recognized it's a trap. This is not an Ackbar victory, but a Rebel victory.
    4834) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104707)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's be clear on this: G.W. Bush did NOT behead Saddam Hussein. It was a poorly tied noose. G.W. Bush just happened to be the one that recognized, "Oh, no! It's tied too loose! He's gonna be be- be- you know, that word where ya lose yur head!" It was not a Bush victory, but a ... ?
    4835) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104682)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last thought for the night: where's your evidence that "if one has been 'agnostic' for 2 years, (s)he is either an atheist or a believer to scared too make a decision"? (Rough paraphrase, but I think it fits.)
    On what do you base this, or who else did you pick up this idea from? What is that person's evidence?
    Otherwise, I will have to assume you have made an assumption, one that many of us here, at various points on the continuum, simply do not accept.


    I hold it to be a truth that's self-evident. The entire agnostic belief circles around the fact that they wish to abstain from making a decisive stance on the existence of a deity.


    So, essentially, you're saying it's lazy and cowardly. (With no evidence, then. A very big assumption.)
    How does that cognitive dissonance fit with not responding to other issues raised and lack of reading references to which have been pointed?
    4836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1104652)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thx Sarge...I'll put you on my list of ppl to contact when it's done...although I've been told it's a multi-year project to finish publishing.

    Well, I intend to live at least a few years more, so sounds good!
    4837) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Royal Weddings (Message 1104615)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi kenzieB!

    ;)
    4838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Original music corner (Message 1104614)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meta-For, You on ReverbNation. Hard rockin', but with a message. Hear the only example (so far?) of the guitarist harmonizing with me at the end, as I hit a cool high note.
    4839) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104612)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, my ADD started kicking in before I even started reading Steve's post. I certainly cannot read the entire thread surrounding the post you linked to.

    As an educator, I will not accept that excuse. Allowances may need to be made, but I will not withdraw my challenge to read much of that thread, or for you to read Steve's post.
    Since Steve, at a cursory glance, seems to be saying he is atheist, why would you not read a post that you could use to support your case?
    Furthermore, your own posts are not short. You have responded to some long posts.
    So, I'm not buying it.

    Last thought for the night: where's your evidence that "if one has been 'agnostic' for 2 years, (s)he is either an atheist or a believer to scared too make a decision"? (Rough paraphrase, but I think it fits.)
    On what do you base this, or who else did you pick up this idea from? What is that person's evidence?
    Otherwise, I will have to assume you have made an assumption, one that many of us here, at various points on the continuum, simply do not accept.
    4840) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104611)
    Posted 9 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer.

    Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins wrote, "It seems more probable that those patients who knew they were being prayed for suffered additional stress in consequence: 'performance anxiety', as the experimenters put it. Dr Charles Bethea, one of the researchers, said, 'It may have made them uncertain, wondering am I so sick they had to call in their prayer team?'" Study co-author Jeffery Dusek stated that: "Each study builds on others, and STEP advanced the design beyond what had been previously done. The findings, however, could well be due to the study limitations."[22] Team leader Benson stated that STEP was not the last word on the effects of intercessory prayer and that questions raised by the study will require additional answers.[23]


    LOL@Dawkins and "performance anxiety"!
    Dusek's explanation makes sense abn can be seen as being like an anti-placebo.
    I thought there was a study which compared those who knew they were receiving prayer against those that received prayer but did not know it (and were not even told there was a possibility they would). If so, I believe the latter group fared better than the first. But maybe there was no such study, or I am remembering details incorrectly.
    At a cursory glance, it seems easy to develop a follow up study to "STEP" (aka "GPE=The Great Payer Experiment.") I have already stated two possible groups. What about others?
    1) Told they'd receive no prayer, and in fact do not receive it.
    2) Told they'd receive no prayer, but actually do receive intercessory prayer.
    3) & 4) The groups in "STEP."
    And so on.
    To quote Bobby, I think we'll find it's more complicated. :)
    4841) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104427)
    Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There were a couple of studies done on prayer in 2006 on heart patients. They showed that patients who knew they were being prayed over were more likely to have complications, slower recovery times and higher death rates.

    So it looks like prayer does work, and I would kindly request that no one prays over me if I'm sick.


    That study rings a bell, but it is not the only one. I remember reading contradictory findings around the same time, 200-2007 or so.
    So, Es, have a link to that article? And what else have we learned since 2006?
    4842) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104426)
    Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One may wish to quibble about using the words "belief" or "faith" in place of "assumptions." Nonetheless, math, and therefore science, have assumptions at their cores. If you disagree with this, you do not have a deep enough understanding of science and mathematics.

    Godel's Incompleteness Theorem: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=36463&nowrap=true#502402. Not everything can be proved.


    I don't think anyone here is arguing that all conclusions made are based upon some sort of assumption. I'm sure that much is a given. The issue currently is that the basis for conclusion must be motivated by some sort of faith in one's correctness. This is a notion most non-believers reject as nonsensical. See my response above for details.


    Rather than a quick read and a quick response, I challenge you to read the posts I linked to, and much of the thread(s) around them.
    I'm sure as heck not going to take the time to re-write them here, edit them for my possibly improved understandings, and to address the more specific posts within this new thread.
    And I included in the very beginning of the post you are responding to the glimmers of scientific responses to Robert's opening question in this thread.
    4843) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1104416)
    Posted 8 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, what is the benefit of orayer or meditation? http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#447240. However, I have found contradictory articles, and cannot find yet my previous posts to links of both of the ones I remember mentioning.

    The first of many posts on science and assumptions/belief/faith: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#430894.
    Euclid realized not everything could be defined. Hence, axiomatic systems: undefined terms, definitions, axioms (or postulates-statements made without proof and accepted as such, because, like definitions, attempting to prove them all leads to circular reasoning). Euclid was fighting the circular reasoning of The Sophists. (Familiar with the term "sophistry"?)
    David Hilbert and colleagues vindicated Euclid around one century ago, and they worked very hard to shore up all of mathematics by placing all within axiomatic systems.
    Science depends on mathematics. Assumptions are made at the earliest stages of mathematics. (We keep the number of undefined terms and axioms to a minimum, and they must lead to consistent results as other statements are proved.) Hence, science is dependent on these assumptions.
    One may wish to quibble about using the words "belief" or "faith" in place of "assumptions." Nonetheless, math, and therefore science, have assumptions at their cores. If you disagree with this, you do not have a deep enough understanding of science and mathematics.

    Godel's Incompleteness Theorem: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=36463&nowrap=true#502402. Not everything can be proved.
    4844) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104120)
    Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We don't need no stinkin' pictures ... especially since al Qaeda has confirmed Osama is dead.
    4845) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1104118)
    Posted 7 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Legality, schmegality (smeagol)!
    Pakistan acted as our ally in the "war against terror," and Osama Bin laden was a war criminal.
    4846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Original music corner (Message 1103794)
    Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Im new here

    here is my music page My interest in this subject unsurprisingly surfaces in some of the songs


    http://www.icompositions.com/artists/henno

    let me entertain you (rolls eyes) enjoy!



    john


    Checking out the first track, "Can You Believe?", right now. Good stuff!
    4847) Message boards : Politics : OSAMA IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!! (Message 1103749)
    Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But it was OK when the Abu Ghraib pictures were released, right? Really tired of the double standard.

    Are you comparing the two? The pictures out of Abu Grahib were evidence of an alleged criminal act by US personnel; these pictures, as I have already explained, serve no evidentiary purpose. I don't need to see them, you don't need to see them (even if you want to), and the people you think should see them either won't believe them or will believe them but be offended at the callousness of exposing such gore. How did you feel when you saw the slow motion beheading of an American journalist? Whether you believe the video or not, it probably made you pretty mad.

    Good points.
    I wonder if, by some small chance, he meant how we saw the pictures of a slain al Zahrawi (sp?)?
    4848) Message boards : Politics : OSAMA IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!! (Message 1103746)
    Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But it was OK when the Abu Ghraib pictures were released, right? Really tired of the double standard.

    We're not the ones who came up with that double standard, now, are we? Not a single one of us posting on the S@H fora ... ?
    4849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1103744)
    Posted 6 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm in the process of writing my book. I've got 25 pages single-spaced :) My interviews with contributors start this weekend. My co-writer starts their interviews in a week. Really looking forward to how it comes together.

    Roughly, what are you writing about, Blurf?

    Anyway, starting a new thread.


    Wrote 15 more pages today and yesterday...it's based on living life w/ a disability and how I was raised and such. Basically intended to be inspirational to other families dealing with children w/ disabilities.


    Very cool!
    I imagine many people on my campus could use something uplifting like that to read.
    4850) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1103279)
    Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Robert has a long history on these boards of weak arguments and, more importantly, to refer to your post, of personal attacks.

    [snip]

    Often, Robert just seems like the liberal anti-Darwin's worm, and so skildude's post earlier in this thread can be equally applied to both of them.


    So then why bother responding at all? Not that I don't support your right to Free Speech.


    I usually do not respond to most of Robert's posts. Every once in a while, though, he needs to be called on things.
    4851) Message boards : Politics : We don't need no stinkin' pictures (Message 1103263)
    Posted 4 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He does more before 5 a.m. than most people do all week.
    He can wrestle an alligator and break it's neck.
    He can bounce bullets off his chest.
    He can leap tall buildings in a single bound.
    He doesn't always drink Dos Equis, but when he does, world leaders listen.
    He trains Seals and swims with them.
    He is ... the most interesting President in the world!
    4852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Original music corner (Message 1102797)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shucks, all the grand kids liked it. I do get your point, it is just that Alvin made a lot more money than we did. LOL

    Was that not the intention of speeding it up?
    4853) Message boards : Politics : OSAMA IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!! (Message 1102785)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm wondering about the reaction from the Skyman over burying Bin Laden in such a manner as proposed by VW Bobier.
    Since both religions pray to the same dude in the clouds, will the Skyman be pleased or angered?

    Here we have "Skyman" and "dude in the clouds" ... . Obvious attempts at mockery, rather than asking questions.
    However, in the end, despite it's poor presentation, Robert actually asks a good question here. [I know, he'll overlook that I said this. :)]
    Then again, Muslim's are the one's that claim they worship the same God that Christians do. I wonder what most Christians' take on this is?
    4854) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102781)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [I think and who am I, to judge about another way of thinking and doing, which I do or do not like?
    (Too many wars started out, this way!)


    Which is exactly why having more communication is so important. The personal attacks do nothing to help the situation, regardless if you think the person hasn't "grown" in the past 3 or 4 years. It just means they haven't grown toward your views favorably. Everyone has a right to dislike something and vocalize that dislike without being attacked personally.


    Robert has a long history on these boards of weak arguments and, more importantly, to refer to your post, of personal attacks.
    It has little to nothing to do with what my beliefs may be, and it certainly has nothing to do with "growing more favorably towards mine."
    Go read some of the "Religious Threads" here from 3-4 years ago. Except for my finally losing it in my frustration with a poster "Chuck," you'll see many posts where I defend people's right to have some sort of faith, I defend the *choice* to be atheist (being raised atheist ultimately makes it no better than being raised religious/spiritual, in the sense that one has already been indoctrinated into a way of thinking) and I welcome *reasonable* questions. In the end, a few months after the blow up with Chuck, he and I reached *some* sort of understanding-particularly his right to ask the reasonable questions he did, and to not be moderated based on a moderator's religious and political beliefs. Of course, if Chuck's reading this now, he's probably scratching at my head at me still calling myself agnostic. Oh, well.
    Often, Robert just seems like the liberal anti-Darwin's worm, and so skildude's post earlier in this thread can be equally applied to both of them.
    4855) Message boards : Politics : OSAMA IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!! (Message 1102735)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bury Him on US soil not facing Mecca.

    NO! Bury him over there with full military honors. I know none of his followers would, but we don't sink to their level. Confuse the jihad right out of them.

    OK, now I'm in: Gary, where do we join the group of followers you have? Ha ha!
    4856) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102734)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Just ... wow.
    Well, while my students take their final exam in Statistics, where they have to back up their claims, I can say actually we do agree on at least one thing: teachers are NOT paid too much.
    And if that doesn't make you think, you really have no idea where I stand, haven't read with any depth any of my thousands of posts, etc. ... . Your claim that I am politically threatened by your atheism ... so far off base. Pay attention.
    4857) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102636)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now it's your turn to make me laugh.
    I'm the only proponent for my own beliefs in the entire universe buddy.
    No one else is me and no one else can speak for me.

    Hee hee hee, except I've heard you before, even when it wasn't you. "Buuudddy."
    Or, are you going to suggest that evolution has resulted in you, something so unique, that your thought patterns are completely different from that of other humans?
    I wonder what Darwin would say about that, considering he did such a good job at illuminating homologous structures within bodies? What about mind? Can it be that all humans must share common ground cognitively?

    You seem intimidated by the fact I have reached such a conclusion regarding religion.

    Hardly. But take comfort in your belief that you intimidate me.

    You do realize that if the Skyman exists, you get to do time on the nonbeliever rack in hell too. There's no room for "thinking agnostics" in the christian world view either. LOL

    Ooooh, wow, I never thought of that NOT!!!

    Of course, all of this will pass when you've changed your mind again, if for no other reason than to not be dogmatic. (more laughter)

    Dream on! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Qd9VR1gD8
    Get some rest. It's 9:29 in B.C. Tomorrow, think about how to become convincing.
    Hint: it's not in ignoring the very valid point I raised regarding Haiti. Nice try, slipping past it and instead pretending that you intimidate me.
    4858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Original music corner (Message 1102625)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Years ago Long Sufferin’ Marie and I were working on a web site for the kids. One of the things we put on it was a song that we always sang to each other called “Take me along.” To make it more interesting for the little ones, we recorded the song and then doubled the speed. At the same time we had a cat named Minerva. The result was a group called Minerva and the Deer Mice.
    Beware of the volume.
    http://www.tootpix.ca/we.wav

    If you have the original recording, before it was sped up, you could now try a program where you raise it by an octave but maintain the original tempo.
    4859) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Donald Trump! (Message 1102624)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the spirit of Rush's old threads, and Chris S' recent "Fun with Royal Weddings."
    Have at it!
    4860) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102623)
    Posted 2 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My original point was to question why believers in the Skyman still feel the need to seek solutions for their ailments from more Earthly sources.
    One, in particular, seeks prayers and mercy when personal wants are to be fulfilled but offers nothing by way of mercy or humanity when it concerns others who may or may not be members of other ethnic groups.

    You seem quite stirred up for a 'thinking agnostic' over the contents of this thread.


    Far from it.
    You make me laugh.
    I will listen to some liberals. (I also listen to some conservatives. It's called equal time, something Big L likes to spout but doesn't understand.)
    I will listen to some atheists.
    You tend to make terrible cases for what you bring up.
    Case in point, you have brought up the above "beliefs" before (more than 1, 2, or 3 times in the past 3-4 years or so), and ignore the examples contrary to the argument you wish to make. Some of the simplest recent examples would be the responses of some churches to recent natural disasters. Lest you argue, thinking I am referring to responses to the multiple tornadoes across the south of the U.S., no, I refer to responses to the Haiti earthquake. (With a bit of cringing over the scene over a certain group removing some children from the country without, IIRC, following proper procedures.)
    Look up a video on youtube regarding atheism, religion and dogma. While you will think much of it supports your views, I ask you and all reading, are you guilty of dogmatically overgeneralizing? Irrationality?
    If anything is working me up, it's that you're a terrible proponent for your beliefs. I would much rather hear from someone who's not stuck at the same point (s)he was years ago and can actually really back up what (s)he's saying rather than simply quoting negative ideas about religion and spirituality they've heard from someone else.
    4861) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102588)
    Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    However, he claims to have only addressed this 1, 2, maybe 3 times on these boards over the past few years? Yeah, right!

    Thus, it is for this reason that I strongly suggest that atheism, in the case of Robert Waite, is dogma. He's not asking questions. He's at the same place he's been, for 3 or 4 years, if not more. THAT is what dogma IS! Do not question what Robert has to say? Hmmm. OK, thanks for the contradiction, Robert Waite. I'll wait until you clear it up. I hope it's not too heavy a weight on your heart and mind.
    4862) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1102579)
    Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the first ammendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    various Supreme Court rulings have held that the first ammendment doesn't rule out religion, it also holds "freedom from religion".

    which i think applies to Roberts reasoning.

    "...or abridging the freedom of speech,..."
    also supports Robert in his right to say what he thinks
    without persecution.


    He hasn't been persecuted here.
    However, he claims to have only addressed this 1, 2, maybe 3 times on these boards over the past few years? Yeah, right!
    And what most people have told him in this thread is, he hasn't added a darn thing to the discussion.
    Look elsewhere on these board, and you'll see where I defend a person's right to believe. And I'll also defend a person's right to believe they believe nothing.
    4863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Original music corner (Message 1102370)
    Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All Good Things on ReverbNation.

    This thread is to be like Dan's Poetry Corner.
    In particular, I invite Dan to share links to his original music he has posted on Myspace and Youtube, as well.

    All others who have been involved in creating original music and have it posted somewhere to stream on the web, please share here as well.

    The link above is to a mellow song I sing two parts on. It'd be greatly appreciated if you like to press "like," become a fan, share it elsewhere, etc. ... . But, just garnering new listeners is great, too!
    4864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1102369)
    Posted 1 May 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm in the process of writing my book. I've got 25 pages single-spaced :) My interviews with contributors start this weekend. My co-writer starts their interviews in a week. Really looking forward to how it comes together.

    Roughly, what are you writing about, Blurf?

    Anyway, starting a new thread.
    4865) Message boards : Politics : Prayer (Message 1101921)
    Posted 30 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why make light of others' beliefs Robert?


    Why can't he question what he doesn't understand, and phrase that question in a way that states his level of understanding?

    Personally, I agree with the questions he's asking, but I already know the answers that believers give, which are not good enough for me so I don't bother asking anymore.

    Because Robert's questions are instead reflections of dogmatic beliefs he already holds. He's bought into the anti-religion propaganda, hook, line, and sinker. I, on the other hand, am a thinking agnostic.
    4866) Message boards : Politics : Well, 'Birthers' can hush now. (Message 1101918)
    Posted 30 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope that the majority of Americans are more rational than either extreme, rejecting the shrill partisan claims; but judging from these boards, I am not encouraged. Hypocrisy too often reveals itself when one wholly accepts claims that support one's own view but belittles and insults the view of opposing parties--all without valid evidence to support either claim.

    Indeed?
    4867) Message boards : Politics : Donald Trump.....a man after my own heart....and vote. (Message 1101917)
    Posted 30 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Me!" wrote:
    Like people suddenly remembering his business went bankrupt in the late 80s and he was nearly personally bankrupt, as well? Can this be a "media distraction"? :)

    When I pointed that out to a new Trump supporter, she essentially, said, "Hush, think positive thoughts." And Guy thinks it's the liberals that spout "robotic, knee jerk" responses? "Think positive thoughts," as opposed to being pragmatic ... hmmm, who's robotic?
    4868) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Royal Weddings (Message 1101614)
    Posted 29 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi kenzieB!
    4869) Message boards : Politics : Well, 'Birthers' can hush now. (Message 1101613)
    Posted 29 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The moral of the story (as has been actually clear since late 2008) is that the GOP is now the party of "what's good for the goose [being a crybaby] is good for the gander."

    No wonder some people see no difference between the two parties.
    Grow the h311 up.

    Republicans/conservatives didn't act like this '92-'94. And as my roommate of the time was and is a "dittohead" (you know what I mean), I had a good idea of how they were acting, as I was treated to coming home for lunch breaks to him listening to, and me hearing, one of your favorite radio pundits of the time. (Hint: the big L is still around.)
    4870) Message boards : Politics : Well, 'Birthers' can hush now. (Message 1101296)
    Posted 28 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Master's ... 3.875.
    4871) Message boards : Politics : Well, 'Birthers' can hush now. (Message 1101259)
    Posted 28 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This will not stop birthers. Conspiracy nuts and racists will have a new angle by tomorrow.

    No doubt S^S, No doubt about It. Trump seems to have swung away from the birther argument though, But I'll wait and see what He says next.

    I wouldn't worry about Trump he'll figure something else to complain about.

    Like people suddenly remembering his business went bankrupt in the late 80s and he was nearly personally bankrupt, as well? Can this be a "media distraction"? :)

    When I pointed that out to a new Trump supporter, she essentially, said, "Hush, think positive thoughts." And Guy thinks it's the liberals that spout "robotic, knee jerk" responses? "Think positive thoughts," as opposed to being pragmatic ... hmmm, who's robotic?
    4872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1101073)
    Posted 27 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Is that me hitting you over the head, Chris?
    4873) Message boards : Politics : Some facts about Wisconsin & public employees (Message 1101032)
    Posted 27 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's a very telling statement from a WI citizen:

    I like Walker thank you. Its about time he has the union the rich pay insurance out of their pockets. I gotta do they do too.


    So, while some Tea Partiers cry that it is their opponents hating success and wealth, and trying to start class war, instead we see someone misinformed about who it is that is actually rich?!?
    4874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1100715)
    Posted 26 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess another tact will have to be tried, in the near future, in another thread.
    This was intended to be along the lines of Dan's Poetry Corner.
    4875) Message boards : Politics : My fellow Americans.... WE ARE INSANE. (Message 1100712)
    Posted 26 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For all the talk of charity ... .
    Particularly to those in California ... .
    If he's open to it, meet VW Bobier. If you find you can trust him (no offense to you, VW Bobier), then ...

    ... put your charity where your mouth is, and offer him some.

    And before you point your finger at me, I have a friend here that helps me grade, and much of his pay has come out of my pocket. I help him, and so help his wife and the child that is on the way. And every once in a while, besides grading, he's helped me out as well.

    And, to MajorKong, I (and my friend) like the idea of growing food for ourselves. But what do you propose to the many many people around the country that live in apartments? At best, they could grow a small amount of vegetables (maybe fruits?) off a balcony, and that's if the owners/managers don't have rules against it!
    4876) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1100351)
    Posted 24 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'This is a loaded question. Belief such is this is quite subjective in the absence of a defined standard of a 'strong leader'. A person's personal beliefs and biases will color their decisions of which ones were stronger."

    As can be seen in the later expansion of the thread, seeing whether the choices indicated the beliefs, and whether that was more easily determined by the definition of left and right provided by Guy, or the definition to be gleaned from the quotes I provided from http://www.ask.com/wiki/Left-right_politics ... was precisely the point.

    And, a fairly rough analysis says that, for the most of you, it's not that cut and dry.

    Particularly Gary's response, which, without more scrolling, I believe included Carter.
    Yet, MajorKong, you "glare" at Carter.

    In fact, I would expect many to give Carter a low ranking, with the hostages being held, what, 444 days in Iran?
    (People might give him more points as a peacemaker since then ... ? ... but not rank him highly as a president. ?)
    4877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1100344)
    Posted 24 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. No real talent?!

    Pbbbt. :P
    4878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzens' got talent! (Message 1099731)
    Posted 22 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey!
    What's your talent?
    Would you like to share just a little with your friends at S@H?
    Pictures of paintings you've done? Poems you've written? Your incredible video of a pristine performance of you on 1st violin playing some Bach fugue?
    Share a little something with us.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eABkoKj1I7s
    4879) Message boards : Politics : Paul Ryan for President 2012 (Message 1099707)
    Posted 22 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, I hate to admit it, but even The Duke(sorry, can't say his real name) had me Hynotized before the last election. I even put his Yard Sign in my front yard. But a couple months before Election Day I snapped out of it. Whew, got my mind back.

    Unfortunately, many Zombies went to The Poles and got him Elected.


    I admit I too was hypnotized by Duke McCain. I was hypnotized by how he told me
    "The fundamentals of our economy are strong." I mean, who doesn't want to be comforted and told everything is alright?
    I was also hypnotized by his complete reversal a few days later. Hypnotized and scared! No! Everything wasn't alright! Things were so bad that he suggested he, The Duke McCain, and Barry suspend their campaigns and return to Washington to fix the problem as quickly as possible.
    Unfortunately, people from Poland living in Antarctica performing scientific research weren't enough, with their write-in ballots, to sway the election results.

    iOutEvolve'Em


    I love how you cannot come up with a reply to me, Wormwood.
    Ever.
    I flummox you.
    Completely.
    4880) Message boards : Politics : Paul Ryan for President 2012 (Message 1099706)
    Posted 22 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    by cookie jar you mean schtuping a staff "member". the Congressional Ethics(snicker) Committee "Probe" was beginning to dig into this incident. Ensign has "pulled out" of the 2012 race

    I knew It was something, Just read the "story", I hope His wife is understanding doesn't go volcanic.

    Maybe she can.
    "Fire and Ice."
    ?
    4881) Message boards : Politics : Ayn Rand was nuts (Message 1099705)
    Posted 22 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ayn Rand is A Goddess. Charles Sheen has two Goddesses and Sheen is My God.

    I am so glad In This World, there are People who do not See, Eye To Eye.

    You Cannot Stand My World and I Can Not Stand Yours.

    No Biggie. My Next Door Neighbors and I Do Not Either See Eye to Eye.

    Makes for Good Neighbors.

    iWorm 'em.

    Yes yes you said the opposite of everyone else. WTG


    C'mon, BOINC forum devs, include a "Like" button! :)
    4882) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1097550)
    Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've discussed the x,y (or, as Gary put it, matrix) approach before, and it would probably be better than this false dichotomy some are trying to force us into.
    Putting together what Soft and Gary said, it makes me think of the 60s radicals on the one hand and the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 on the other.
    Still, Soft's answer of "anarchists favor disorder" explains Ask.com's reasoning, I believe.
    Yet I think maybe libertarianism comes close to anarchism. Not that they favor disorder, but that they favor less intrusion.
    4883) Message boards : Politics : Anyone understand Trusts? (Message 1097549)
    Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The way the Republicans are so intent on tax breaks for the Uber Rich and cuts to Medicare and Soc. Sec. I am thinking I may need a trust to protect my kids from the Government Stealing all I have accomplished with just an illness. Does anyone know what kind of Trust I would need to set up to make sure my kids do get an inheritance? I have always believed in paying my share but things are getting crazy.

    This doesn't seem like a real request for information, but a slap at policies you don't agree with.

    And your reasons for this response?
    Sounds like a concerned citizen to me.
    Gary strikes me as a guy with a head on his shoulders, capable of discernment, and he has chosen to provide hiamps a reasonable response.
    There's healthy paranoia and there's ... what?
    4884) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1097324)
    Posted 15 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Skil, you seem to have boiled one part of argument down reasonably well, but, as Bobby's sig says, "I think you'll find it's a bit more complicate than that ..." or something along those lines.
    I'm just as focused on the characterization of the Right as favoring strong individuals as leaders as I am on the competing characterizations of the left. The source(s) of these beliefs, and so on.

    With varying levels of power in federal government, you have (on the left) total government power (dictatorship). On the right, you have absolutely no power in federal government (anarchy). Our nation started out a little to the left of total anarchy (limited government) and has been moving to the left (more centralized power in federal government) since the beginning of the 20th century.


    vs.

    Left-wing values include the belief in the power of human reason to achieve progress for the benefit of the human race, secularism, sovereignty exercised through the legislature, social justice, and mistrust of strong personal political leadership.


    One thing I get from the first definition is something I've also gleaned from the beliefs of others in posts seen these last few months: dictatorship = leftist. I, and others, have repeatedly indicated these two are not equivalent, as Hitler's fascist dictatorship was right wing extremism.

    Further quotation from the Ask.com article I was referring to earlier:

    In France, where the terms originated, the Left is called "the party of movement" and the Right "the party of order".[1]

    Traditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, plutocrats, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.[6]

    The terms left and right are often used to spin a particular point of view rather than as simple descriptors. In modern political rhetoric, those on the Left typically emphasize their support for working people and accuse the Right of supporting the interests of the upper class, whereas those on the Right usually emphasize their support for individualism and accuse the Left of supporting collectivism. As a result, arguments about the way the words should be used often displace arguments about policy by raising emotional prejudice against a preconceived notion of what the terms mean.


    One I have trouble with is including anarchists on the left. Why? Also, the quote at the beginning of this post clearly indicates Guy puts anarchists at the exact opposite end.
    4885) Message boards : Politics : Paul Ryan for President 2012 (Message 1097022)
    Posted 14 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, I hate to admit it, but even The Duke(sorry, can't say his real name) had me Hynotized before the last election. I even put his Yard Sign in my front yard. But a couple months before Election Day I snapped out of it. Whew, got my mind back.

    Unfortunately, many Zombies went to The Poles and got him Elected.


    I admit I too was hypnotized by Duke McCain. I was hypnotized by how he told me
    "The fundamentals of our economy are strong." I mean, who doesn't want to be comforted and told everything is alright?
    I was also hypnotized by his complete reversal a few days later. Hypnotized and scared! No! Everything wasn't alright! Things were so bad that he suggested he, The Duke McCain, and Barry suspend their campaigns and return to Washington to fix the problem as quickly as possible.
    Unfortunately, people from Poland living in Antarctica performing scientific research weren't enough, with their write-in ballots, to sway the election results.

    iOutEvolve'Em
    4886) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1096838)
    Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Ronald Reagan.

    And if Mr. T had ever been president, him too. I PITY the fool!


    Guy has indicated he's done posting. Forever? That's up to him.
    The thread began due to a discussion in PM with him.

    He has stated:

    If you see value in re-posting anything I've sent to you via PM, then go ahead and do it.


    I know this is a tricky subject. But, I was up front with him, when he told me he was stopping posting, that since the thread began due to our discussion via PM, that I might want to copy and paste certain things from our discussion into this thread. And I am being up front with all of you. You see the quote above, and you see a few posts back a PM quote from him regarding his belief of what "left" and "right" currently means in US politics. I intend to be very sparing in any copy/paste I do from those PMs. It is also my understanding that:
    1) We do not want to share publicly things which one party may not wish to share and only discuss in private.
    2) Beyond that, one of the biggest concerns has been about copy/pastes from e-mails or PMs to get around a ban. That does not apply here, as Guy has not been banned.

    The only other thing to share from Guy at this time is the reasons for his choice. He did, at the very least, want this included in the thread.

    George Washington: Because he was able to convince thousands to pledge their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor for a greater cause as commander of the continental army. Because he presided over the constitutional convention, and although he wasn't able to convince everyone of everything in his vision, he convinced most people of most of his vision. Because he was our first president and set the tone for "limited federal government."

    Abraham Lincoln: Because he led our country through the greatest constitutional, military, and moral crisis. Because he was able to force through the "all men are created equal" clause to mean "all men." Because he saw keeping the nation together as one would be better for us in the long run. Even though his emancipation proclamation didn't free *all* slaves (most people don't know that...), he knew it was enough to eventually end all slavery in the states.

    Ronald Reagan: Because through words alone (and a little extra defense spending), he brought an end to the "cold war." Because with words alone, he unified our country and its politicians more than anyone else in recent history. Because he was able to unify more people, he demonstrated being "conservative" works.

    All three were for limited federal government. All three saw strength in the accumulation of individual freedom. All three were aware of history and what not to do. All three were bold enough to advocate their beliefs and visions against seemingly insurmountable odds. All three were great leaders.

    And Mr. "T". Because he's not afraid to hold people *personally accountable* for their actions. I PITY the fool!
    4887) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1096601)
    Posted 13 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    your link flips over to something about ken snyder. I think you'll need a new link.

    It didn't do that when I followed it upon seeing your comment.
    Try copy and paste of: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Left-right_politics
    4888) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1096593)
    Posted 12 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The reason for this thread was a comment from someone:

    With varying levels of power in federal government, you have (on the left) total government power (dictatorship). On the right, you have absolutely no power in federal government (anarchy). Our nation started out a little to the left of total anarchy (limited government) and has been moving to the left (more centralized power in federal government) since the beginning of the 20th century.


    I know this is what some would have us believe. But is doesn't jibe with what I learned, and I found evidence that, with consideration to the history of the terms "left" and "right" in politics, from before our becoming a country, that the understandings I have held are more in line with that.

    The evidence is at: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics. Specifically, one part inspired this thread: "Left-wing values include the belief in the power of human reason to achieve progress for the benefit of the human race, secularism, sovereignty exercised through the legislature, social justice, and mistrust of strong personal political leadership. To the Right, this is seen as anti-clericalism, unrealistic social reform, doctrinaire socialism and class hatred. The Right are skeptical about the capacity of radical reforms to achieve human well-being, which they see as harmful to personal liberties. They believe in the established church both in itself and as an instrument of social cohesion, and believe in the need for strong political leadership to minimize social and political divisions." (Emphasis added.)

    So, while I think about the responses, what do you think of the overall article and in particular the part I have quoted?
    4889) Message boards : Politics : The last government shutdown (Message 1096590)
    Posted 12 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Health care during LBJ? Blue cross. It covered things. Period.

    Was it available?
    Was it cheap?

    Yes.
    No.

    Interesting answers.

    What was the co-pay and deductible? How would you describe the cost of such a plan today (if you could find it)?


    Geez. No Co pays. Deductables were fair, no limits to how much Blue cross had to cover. Capped the maximum it could cost YOU, not them.

    Basic doctor visits you ended up paying cash. When you NEEDED insurance, it was there.

    That was a lot of years ago.

    Such a plan today without the national health bill is, absolutely not available.


    Care to change your answer about cheap?


    Review the order of your questions, and the order of her answers.
    She said "no," it was not cheap.
    Later, she said "Basic doctor visits you ended up paying cash. When you NEEDED insurance, it was there."
    If you want to get from A to B, you have to actually start at A.
    That means, despite some peoples' rants against longer posts, you have to elaborate. If you are getting at the other costs, such as the cost of a minor surgery for removing a sebaceous cyst, what was the cost covered by insurance and what was left for the insured person paid, in comparison to those monetary amounts today (taking into account 2011 dollars, etc. ... relative to whatever time period you are referring to), so state.
    4890) Message boards : Politics : Some facts about Wisconsin & public employees (Message 1096536)
    Posted 12 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quite a few views, and no comments? Seriously?
    4891) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1096259)
    Posted 11 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would assume the Invite has the stipulation of staying with American Presidents and not other Foreign leaders

    Yes, at least for the time being.
    Otherwise, it'd make "analysis" a bit tougher.
    Also, to give a hint as to the reason for this, I'm working on examining (with others in our community) definitions within U.S. politics.
    4892) Message boards : Politics : The last government shutdown (Message 1095908)
    Posted 11 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The first time he walked into The Situation Room and saw The Real Numbers; was shown The Real World; was Told how The Real World is A Threat, The Duke turned White and Almost became A Republican.[quote]
    Starting to sound racist here.

    [quote]You People have Not been On The Inside.

    You have?
    4893) Message boards : Politics : The last government shutdown (Message 1095907)
    Posted 11 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cut the Military Budget in half?

    Why do you think The Duke has done an about face?


    John Wayne?
    4894) Message boards : Politics : The last government shutdown (Message 1095906)
    Posted 11 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Excuse me there is a fair amount to cut in light of realities such as the Cold War is over. I used to work for US Navy and have nothing against the military per se but the Cold War is over. That can cut military costs in half at least.

    As someone already responded, for real reasons or paranoid ones: 9/11; "homeland" secutity.

    People live longer so they should retire later.

    My Dad is 71 and will be working 2 more years. (Do the math; he's not a boomer.)
    He left a job of 30 years in 1996 because he believed one more year would literally kill him. That meant sacrificing some of what he built up. He knew he'd make less and have to work longer by making the choice. He had the guts to do it.
    How many of us will? Will I?
    4895) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1095904)
    Posted 11 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just want to remind everyone that all are now welcome.
    There was a reason for asking that initial responses about US presidents only come from that are US citizens or currently living here. Hopefully those reasons will be clearer in 2 days.
    But, now that we're in Phase II, everyone, from all around the world, are invited to read/post/comment.
    4896) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1095533)
    Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phase two begins. Please provide explanations. All others may also discuss now.
    If deemed absolutely necessary to keep the conversation moving, I'll state my purposes for the "observational study." I'd rather wait until Tuesday (April 12), though, to do so. This is to allow time for explanation and discussion.
    4897) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1094804)
    Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phase 1 is nearly complete.
    Anyone else wish to post their answers to the 3 strongest U.S. presidents?
    Matt, skil is correct that explanations were not to be included yet. Also, if you have 2 others to name, please do so.
    4898) Message boards : Politics : Average income of Tea Party supporter? (Message 1094672)
    Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank GOD for The Gangsters in Wall Street.

    Any of you ever have a 10 Bagger? You know, a stock that goes up 10 times in short span or longer span.

    Or, how about a 2 Bagger? Or just 40%?

    Sure beats those Bank Savings Rates; CD rates; Bond rates, etc.

    Thank you Wall Street for making Us(those who Play the Game) lots of That Gangster Dough.

    And you can be poor or Midlin' Class to Play. Doesn't take much. Just make the Right Decisions. You know, Do it Like The Gangsters Do.

    All Legal and Quite Profitable.

    iWorm 'em.


    Doubt you believe in God. (Dawkins is more like it.)
    But if you do, you know God wants to save the Gangstas, not celebrate their ways.
    But, he might chill wit dem in da Club, in da Club.
    Yet your post is off-topic. :)
    4899) Message boards : Politics : Average income of Tea Party supporter? (Message 1094542)
    Posted 8 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Its frightening that people are so energized against something without really knowing what they are actually energized against.

    Like http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62702&nowrap=true#1094331?

    Tolerance is something that is lacking worldwide.

    How does that saying go, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insanity. Just consider electing politicians to political office.

    Disagree: we need to reconsider that phrases. It is a sign of neurosis, not insanity. Insanity is more severe.

    We need none of the above on every ballot. When a politician loses to none of the above their name never can appear on a ballot again. Give them a reason to stop with the mud.

    We need to put some teeth into budget deadlines. If it isn't passed on time the legislators don't get a dollar for office staff or their own salaries for that budget year. Give them a reason to cooperate.


    Agree. Why do we have term limits on a president but not on congressional representatives (both houses)?
    4900) Message boards : Politics : My fellow Americans.... WE ARE INSANE. (Message 1094330)
    Posted 7 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    they seem to be pandering to the Tea party now. Talk about crazy the Tea party folks want to shutdown the gov't to prove a point of what extremes they'll go to get their way. Clinton successfully used the bully pulpit the last time lets hope Obama can get folks to see reason


    Crazy? No. They see a debt of $46,000 for every person in the United States and realize you can't raise taxes enough to pay for it all. That means cutting things, just like families and people do when they have too high debt.

    I wish Democrats would do what sane individuals do everyday in their personal lives and as they run their households.... Say to themselves "NO, I actually can't afford that. I'll pass. Thank you for the offer."

    It's called willpower. Something that's absent with Pelosi/Reid/Obama and Company. Even RED China is saying we spend too much. When communists are admonishing you on spending, you know you have a problem.


    Willpower is not having too many kids, bringing them into an uncertain world, and then gnashing one's teeth over how the looming economic crisis is going to crash in on them or their children.
    4901) Message boards : Politics : Average income of Tea Party supporter? (Message 1094327)
    Posted 7 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi, amps.
    Er, I mean, hello, hiamps.

    I've seen some of your other posts that seem to suggest you're not a Democrat, or generally left-leaning, either. Correct?

    Seriously, I think the average socioeconomic level of a Tea Party supporter is probably not what you should look at. It probably varies a lot. Lower class through middle or upper part of middle class.

    It's the socioeconomic level of the apparent forces behind it, the driving forces, that might be better to consider.

    ?
    4902) Message boards : Politics : The government can't even do THIS correctly.... (Message 1093726)
    Posted 6 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, they'll never be fired. They're gubment workers. They'll just slow up to one sheet inspected per hour!

    SEIU! SEIU! SEIU! Si se puede!


    Apparently you've never been employed by a government or known someone who has been, or you wouldn't suggest such a silly thing.
    4903) Message boards : Politics : My fellow Americans.... WE ARE INSANE. (Message 1093491)
    Posted 5 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the true ability of an independent, who can sound like a conservative at times: well, you're the one that chose to have children (you and your partner/spouse, that is).
    And you think you won't feel it before you pass on; that it's only a matter of the pain of being passed on one or two generations down the road?
    4904) Message boards : Politics : My fellow Americans.... WE ARE INSANE. (Message 1093480)
    Posted 5 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, both parties are insane.
    And for a MINOR moment of levity: maybe they're indeed confused about our numbering system, as we have some different names than used elsewhere in the world.
    Search results on naming differences in the numbering system.
    4905) Message boards : Politics : Some facts about Wisconsin & public employees (Message 1093464)
    Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not all that teach at public schools/institutions in Wisconsin are members of unions.
    Not all are provided with health care automatically.
    Wisconsin began cut backs in early 2009. Teachers at public institutions were let go.
    http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=12724
    From that website:
    In each of the two budget years during the 2009-2011 state budget cycle, state employees have eight required unpaid furlough days, four of which are designated campus-wide with the remaining four being selected based on individual preferences.

    (Emphasis added.)
    In another thread, someone suggested public employees produce nothing.
    Do you truly believe teachers produce nothing?
    Do you not value the protection provided to you by policeman and firefighters?
    4906) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1093462)
    Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    William Henry Harrison for testing the line of succession.

    Warren G. Harding for showing Chicago how to do politics.

    Richard Nixon for opening trade with China and starting the path to globalization.

    If I could get 4, Jimmy Carter, Panama Canal.

    Have fun.


    Thanks, Gary. Interesting.
    (But, you provided some explanations, which was to be saved for later. So, all others, wait until discussing your reasons or Gary's reasons.)
    4907) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1093450)
    Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good start!
    More responses, please?
    4908) Message boards : Politics : Defining "left" and "right"? (Message 1093233)
    Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread will evolve in stages. Please do abide by the timeline for the time being.
    From now until April 8 or 9, U.S. citizens or those living in the U.S. are asked to simply state the three past U.S. presidents they believe have been the strongest leaders.
    Please do not provide explanations until the 8th or 9th, or discuss the answers of others until such time as explanation period is deemed to be over by me, thread originator.
    When the explanation phase is over, I shall explain my reasons for the "experiment." (More of an observational study, actually.)

    Note: past means past, so Obama is not to be included in any response. This is not due to the author's political beliefs.

    P.S.-if I do not post again by the 9th, someone please send me a private message.
    4909) Message boards : Politics : BONUS!!!!!!! (Message 1093230)
    Posted 4 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Corporations for Existing. Thank you for giving your hard working people Bonuses. Thank you for creating jobs.

    This World is a Wonderful Place because of Corporations.

    Keep The Bonuses Coming!

    iWorm 'em.


    Which jobs?
    Or, yes, those accountant jobs for mapping out and keeping track of those bonuses! ;)

    iFish 'em.
    (Fish eat worms.)

    Signed
    -Picard's Goldfish.

    (See, I can type weird and contrary things, just as well as you!)
    4910) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1092154)
    Posted 1 Apr 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ooh, ooh! I get mt news from the Jon Stewart show!
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-28-2011/i-give-up---pay-anything---
    4911) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1092091)
    Posted 31 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That 47% apparently includes General Electric.
    (And I thought threads not posted in for over 60 days were auto-locked?)
    4912) Message boards : Politics : Is "Fox News" entertainment or Fascist Propaganda? (Message 1089893)
    Posted 24 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OOOH! OOOH! I heard a lie on FOX NEWS today!

    Megan Kelly said she actually walks in those high heel shoes she wears, they're not just for show.

    Then Shep Smith called her on it and called it an "untruth."

    She didn't deny it!

    Another very significant lie on Fox News.

    You just can't trust them, can you?


    Not a good example of using absurdity to demonstrate the absurd.
    4913) Message boards : Politics : Beating down the working people (Message 1089877)
    Posted 24 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    keith wrote:
    I'm a member of the "get rid of the progressive tax system and institute the flat tax" party.

    I see it's taking you time to grasp this "show WHO was quoted" thing. It's ok. I'm patient. Let's break it down a bit further. When someone does something cool (like put something in bold), look at the code around that section of the post to see how to do it for yourself.
    Granted, those liberals at the Berkeley forum developing team made a little button for you (see above, when you click on "Reply" or "Quote"-it's that button with a capital B in the top left of the frame). But, they didn't include in the coding, or provide you a little button, for "showing WHO was quoted." Darn them!
    Oh, well, soon they'll have a code that allows you to press "Post a contrary point of view for me."
    4914) Message boards : Politics : Beating down the working people (Message 1089874)
    Posted 24 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    keith wrote:
    no one EARNS that kind of money.

    Time to pay their fair share.


    No, time for YOU to pay your fair share.


    T.E.A. = "taxed enough already."
    So, you are a member of the N.E.T. ("not enough taxes") party?
    4915) Message boards : Politics : Beating down the working people (Message 1089868)
    Posted 24 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "keith" wrote:
    Since your reply is to your own post, and the quote does not seem to appear in it, Have you taken to talking to yourself? Perhaps addressing yourself in the third person?




    No, I am quoting Celt Tooth in the post above mine. It's targeted towards a specific point he made on Stalin depriving workers of their rights and associating that with anyone arguing against unions today.

    These lines of argument do not hold up on their merits.

    More to the point, this forum software doesn't even cite WHO is being quoted when quoting a previous post. No username is given. How crazy is that?


    No?
    So, you'd rather have someone do something for you rather than figure out how to do it yourself?
    Now, quote me and look at how I did it. Learn. From a teacher. For free. Enjoy.
    4916) Message boards : Politics : Is "Fox News" entertainment or Fascist Propaganda? (Message 1089663)
    Posted 23 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jerry Springer was quite a hit too.


    What is it with you and your fascination with Jerry Springer? Former mayor of Cincinnati and made millions bringing functionally illiterate people (probably people who regularly voted democrat) together on the air to fight.


    It's been said before, but let's say it again, concisely:
    High ratings do not mean a TV show is good. It just means many people watch it or it is reported to us as such.
    Now make a similar argument for op-ed shows and news broadcasts.
    Let us also not forget Rush Limbaugh's claim that he had a large number of liberal listeners, listening so that they could call in and argue with him.
    4917) Message boards : Politics : Is "Fox News" entertainment or Fascist Propaganda? (Message 1089397)
    Posted 22 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I recently listed some very recent lies from hosts on PMSNBC, no one refuted them.

    How about some recent examples of lies from hosts on Fox News?


    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/22/libya.robertson.report/index.html
    4918) Message boards : Politics : Do you think to bomb another country is "democratic" mean? (Message 1088928)
    Posted 20 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I beleive when a dictator starts slaughtering his own people using artillery and airplanes they have lost any legitimacy. The world should be prepared to offer the people of Libya any assistance they require to recover their country.

    Although I am sure corporations and their minions care about the oil, they can leave it in the ground for all I care. In the long term it would be better that way.


    But not Iraq, right?


    Late 1990-early 1991: few (not none, not a lot, but few) protested Operation: Desert Storm. Stated reason? Actual reason? Result(s)? Time taken to accomplish objective? Immediate events after objective accomplished?
    Early 2003-mid 2003. Stated reason? Actual reason? How "displacement" (to use your term) occurred? Surprise that people were disappointed to downright infuriated by this displacement?
    4919) Message boards : Politics : Is "Fox News" entertainment or Fascist Propaganda? (Message 1087994)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fox News is #1.

    What happened to your long posts?
    #1 in what? Please elaborate.
    4920) Message boards : Politics : Is "Fox News" entertainment or Fascist Propaganda? (Message 1087993)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Glen Beck is against violence and I would love to see an unedited clip where you think he is in favor of it.



    Dena, let me help you out with that...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48cCPz3SZg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq-kW-ifRR4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66UQDzW3yU


    Let's help you with doing more than posting 1 minute long clips, with a lot of silence, and no context.
    4921) Message boards : Politics : Curveball uses US to take out Saddam? (Message 1087981)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did anyone else notice how much Dick Cheney resembled "Mr. Potter"
    from "It's a wonderful life"?

    No.
    4922) Message boards : Politics : What the hell? (Message 1087959)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I beleive we need more sanity and the two parties actually working together


    Try a coalition like the UK :-)


    I keep finding out near the beginning of many semesters how little people know about how other democracies work with regards to expressing one's vote and selecting a winner.
    So, give up hope of most having more than a very basic idea of what a coalition is.
    4923) Message boards : Politics : What the hell? (Message 1087958)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Believing only when Everything that happens has met all of your pre-determined criterions before the fact.

    Seems a certain recent Presidential candidate met all of your pre-determined criterions before the fact. And You Believed. Believed the man right into The White House.

    How's that Belief working for You?

    Now don't go re-arranging those pre-determined criterions to now Meet the Facts.
    No no, don't do that. That tain't the way it works.

    Or is it. For the Left that is.

    Warp drive Scottie. Warped minds.

    LOL

    iWorm 'em.


    How's that "Making sense thing" working out for you?
    Seriously, I think you like to play Devil's Advocate. Give it enough time, if something really weird happened such as Es supporting Sarah Palin, you'd still find a way to disagree with her.
    4924) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087956)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what have ducks ever done to you?

    Off-topic.
    4925) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087954)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-right_politics

    "Traditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.[6]"

    Quit displacing.




    Dang interesting. Who ever wrote this couldn't find a single source that placed them consistently as they had to cite five different sources to get their statement out of it.

    I find it much more interesting to use two lines at right angles. Label one line government control of economics and the other government control of social morals. Now go plot those groups. More interesting and more real.


    I may not agree with Gary all the time, but the man clearly is a thinker!
    See my above post on "matrix."
    4926) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087953)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

    "However, fascist economic controls were left wing.[11]"

    Who's saying Qadafi is a fascist?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

    He is a dictator. He holds all the power, was about to lose it, and is now killing all the dissidents, who want democracy, to maintain total control.

    Until we agree on some definitions, I see no point in continuing to exchange ideas.

    Changing definitions is called displacing. Quit it.


    Changing definitions is called "changing definitions."

    And as I have done so before, I will point out again:
    1) Look at the *history* of the definition of "planet."
    2) Look at the *history* of the definition of "continuous function."

    Finally, for say, 30 years, fascist has meant right wing extremism. But maybe we will see that change. Maybe we'll see a matrix rather than a continuum?
    4927) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087951)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-right_politics

    "Traditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.[6]"

    Quit displacing.

    This has no refuted ... reproofiated ... Es' point.
    And as I asked you in PM, do you accept (insert your favorite spelling here)'s claim that the Libyan rebels are being helped by, or are in fact, al Qaeda? Because that's about the only way I could see them as extreme right wing. And if you accept his claim, why?
    4928) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087950)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, Qadafi is re-seizing the power of his dictatorship by force against his right-wing extremist dissident rebels, while up in Wisconsin, the private sector voters are winning at the ballot box by beating back the public sector unions who are currently lying down on their bellies, flailing their arms and legs, and generally crying like babies.



    Ahh I see where the confusion is now. You need to learn your left from your right.


    Now that I understand Guy is a supporter of Gaddafi his statements start to make more sense.


    No, I believe you have it backwards.

    Qadafi is the ultimate in centralized power in government. He's a dictator. The liberals (left) in the U.S. want to centralize more power in the U.S. government.

    I am a conservative (right). I want limited government power.

    Quit obfuscating.




    Who convinced you of that nonsense? I suggest you go and find out what the terms right and left actually mean. Especially considering that monarchists are generally considered to be right wing and anarchists are considered left wing. That would suggest that you actually have your definition backwards.

    However, the true concept of right and left is more complicated than either your backwards definition or my example.


    Despite his experience around the world, apparently Guy is limiting his use of political right and left to the narrow US arena.
    ?
    4929) Message boards : Politics : Isn't the internet great? (Message 1087948)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These unions that everyone loves to hate are one of the reasons most people are not working in sweatshops 72 hours a week at the age of 12 for barely enough for a loaf of bread at the end of the day.

    What gives you the idea most aren't? Your job will quickly be exported to a country where the conditions you describe are an order of magnitude better than what they had before. They will love that job. And to top it off it will be a country where freedom to associate is banned so they never can form a union.

    What makes you think "they'll take the job" equates to "they will love the job"?
    Given the new version of unrest in the Middle East, northern Africa and China, what makes you think people aren't going to keep trying again and again to rise up and say, "This is wrong" until maybe we see more successes?
    4930) Message boards : Politics : Pass out the blue helmets!! (Message 1087944)
    Posted 18 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am thinking that Canada has done enough lately.
    Time for someone else to jump in there.
    celttooth

    Say, Brazil?
    4931) Message boards : Politics : Online bullying redux (Message 1086909)
    Posted 14 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it kinda sad that people are making entertainment about someone having a mental breakdown. It seems a little cruel to me.

    Besides this, Es, I think you know I have not been addressing it. In fact, except for the short blurbs I catch as part of the "news," I am pointedly ignoring it. I do not watch "Entertainment Tonight" or whatever to catch up on "celeb 'news'."
    4932) Message boards : Politics : Why Are OFF topic posts allowed ? (Message 1086749)
    Posted 13 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes it is wise to be conservative with the conversation.
    4933) Message boards : Politics : Online bullying redux (Message 1086123)
    Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWnptnoDW6Q&feature=player_embedded
    4934) Message boards : Politics : This pretty much speaks for itself (Message 1076198)
    Posted 11 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a professor teaching statistics I can assure you a relatively small sample can give very good insight as to the behavior of the entire population.

    Claims made about a proportion or ratio should be backed up with a properly run sample and cited in a respectable publication or web site.


    To which posts are you referring? At a quick glance, the two above yours, referring to 99%, have nothing to do with statistical study. They are talking about 99% of people not meeting certain conditions.
    4935) Message boards : Politics : How many people actually use Facebook on a regular basis? (Message 1076196)
    Posted 11 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well apparently the people of Egypt do.

    "Like."
    4936) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1075897)
    Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We in the UK are pretty much peed off with our political parties, and it seems you guys in the USA are as well with yours.

    Perhaps we should kick the lot of 'em out and appoint a world government? Oh sorry, I just tripped over the UN, never mind only a stubbed toe .... nothing important.


    LOL, Chris!
    4937) Message boards : Politics : Another experiment filled with hope (Message 1075706)
    Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've changed my mind. Since I've had a little bit of time to think about it, what's happening in Tunisia, Egypt and Lebanon no longer giving me any hope. The Arabs have been fighting among themselves and with others for 1300 years; they're not going to stop fighting anytime soon. Until they figure it out on their own, no amount of outside assistance is going to help them.

    Where do the Semites, Persians and so on fit into this? Why a focus just on "Arabs"? Why the estimate of 1300 years, when in fact we could look back even 4000-5000 years; i.e., LONG before the formation of Islam.
    BTW, how's the venison? I found you have to be a good cook to make it taste good. Spices, etc. ... . (That could be answered in another thread.)
    4938) Message boards : Politics : Another experiment filled with hope (Message 1075705)
    Posted 10 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, is that a rank formerly held in one of the branches or just a randomly picked login name? If so, what branch, what MOS, and what time frame?

    My login name is by no means a random choice. However, the precise reasoning and any response to that question will be withheld, for my privacy.
    Further, it is irrelevant. As I already stated, the only reason I brought any of that up was to make a comparison between regime change, perhaps towards democracy, forced from the outside versus swelling from within.
    4939) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1075590)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://majorityleader.house.gov/

    More symbolism?

    On this page right now:

    The Cut-and-Grow Congress

    Make no mistake about it, we are going to cut spending. This week, the House will debate and vote on a resolution instructing the Appropriations Committee to deliver on our promise of reducing nondefense discretionary spending to 2008 levels. We will also be asking our committees to look for the savings that we can achieve through the oversight process. The specifics will come from the committees of jurisdiction and the different agencies. Everything is on the table. We are serious about effecting spending reform in this town.



    We'll reduce non-defense spending while raising non-non-defense spending.
    4940) Message boards : Politics : Canada is having less of a foreclosure problem? (Message 1075589)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    well without a job, here in CANADA you get no mortgage....

    once you have a job, it takes about 5 yrs for a down payment for a house, if the bank will let you have MORTGAGE.....then once you buy the house, if you lose your job, you have to sell you house...so alot of those stats, just dont fit into your canada dream!!!!

    So in other words they don't lend money to people who can't afford to pay it back. Which is why the banks didn't collapse here.

    How novel we perhaps should try something similar in our backwoods. perhaps it might even work

    Oh no we can't do that. It would discriminate against the poor and minorities. That is exactly what the CRA was designed to prevent, discrimination against poor and minorities. It required loans that could not be paid back.

    So repeal the CRA and replace it with a better way of being non-discriminatory.
    And for the poster that so loves "the Market," gee, at a glance, it seems like MORE of the Market was involved than ever before.
    4941) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1075583)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While some sects of Buddhism attempt to be atheist, they do so while ignoring the roots of their religion as set forth by Siddhartha Gautama. He did not aschew faith in gods. He wanted to escape the Samsaric cycle of reincarnation. And if I'm wrong, prove it, somebody.

    Or is that eschew?
    4942) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1075582)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it quite understandable, that humans would want to understand that which cannot be understood, to believe themselves somehow important in the grand scheme of things, and wish to believe we are "something more" than the sum of our lives.

    Our discontent with our own lot in life is ample motivation for creativity in perception.

    Do you consider yourself

    Above average intelligence?
    Above average driver?


    Most people do. About half are wrong. But we like to think better of ourselves.
    I would call that "normal" for humans. We can even rationalize why we are the most intelligent species on this planet.


    Some would say it is insignificance, not significance, that makes the story interesting.
    4943) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1075578)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ...
    But they are beliefs. Right, wrong, or somewhere in between.. they deserve respect.
    ...


    Some day we might find out who started this "beliefs deserve respect" thing, open the grave and desecrate the body.

    Young earth, intelligent design, respect anyone? A show of hands. Who respects those? Vaccines cause autism -- how about another show of hands?

    To easy? Voodoo? Santeria? Do I see any hands? How about the what is mixed with Voodoo to get Santeria, Roman Catholicism? Did some hands go down?

    Anyone respect religions that are nothing but rituals and taboos? Do the number of hands change when I point out both Islam and Judaism are ritual/taboo religions? Do I get respect for one but not the other?

    There is belief and there is knowledge. Beliefs are stupid. I do not know is a legitimate answer.

    We all have emotions but most of them we have the courtesy to keep private. For some reason religion is given a pass. Public displays are encouraged. Public worship services are the equivalent of public orgies.


    Your post is a rather rambling one. Having read some of your others, I seriously question whether I should even engage in a dialogue with you.
    "Beliefs are stupid"? Wow, I believe i went over this whole issue with someone a few versions of this thread back. Do you believe ... or accept ... Euclid's Fifth Postulate (The Parallel Postulate)?
    4944) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1075553)
    Posted 9 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While some sects of Buddhism attempt to be atheist, they do so while ignoring the roots of their religion as set forth by Siddhartha Gautama. He did not aschew faith in gods. He wanted to escape the Samsaric cycle of reincarnation. And if I'm wrong, prove it, somebody.
    4945) Message boards : Politics : Sure has gotten quiet in here... (Message 1075223)
    Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jared Laughner has already been forgotten,

    Really? Who's forgotten?

    Keith Olberman quit (or was fired) and Rachael Maddow is showing the world what a fool she is on MSNBC,

    Never watched either. So ... WHO CARES?!?

    and it's really starting to look like the U.S. Congress is going to cut spending.

    To the tune of Aerosmith: "Dream On." Those in power LOVE to spend our money, regardless of their supposed party. They just like to direct it to different places.
    4946) Message boards : Politics : Sure has gotten quiet in here... (Message 1075221)
    Posted 8 Feb 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sure has gotten quiet in here. Looks like repealing the health care bill is going to pass the senate, the Arab nations are falling into chaos, Jared Laughner has already been forgotten, Keith Olberman quit (or was fired) and Rachael Maddow is showing the world what a fool she is on MSNBC, Canada has begun metering their internet, and it's really starting to look like the U.S. Congress is going to cut spending.

    What, no comments?


    You know, Guy, vacations do come to an end. People do have lives outside of reading and posting in the S@H Politics forum. I think you've used the latter explanation yourself, correct?
    So why is it when someone does not jump to start a conversation here about something you expect to be discussed, it must mean we've forgotten something, or we're not happy with some result? Hmmm?
    Once again, we implore you, stop putting words in our mouths, thoughts (or lack thereof) in our minds, and stop with these assumptions of who is a liberal, who is a democrat, who's on your side, so on and so forth.
    4947) Message boards : Politics : Awesome! (Message 1071781)
    Posted 29 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The thread was created before the speech began, about the time that the Sergeant of Arms entered the room. Interesting that no one noticed this. More on the real thought behind this thread soon.
    4948) Message boards : Politics : Is it too much to ask? (Message 1071594)
    Posted 28 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was wonderful, sitting in the shadow of Clemens'/Twain's Octagonal Study so many times over 3 years, overlooking the pond.
    Just down the avenue was the plaza where once stood the mansion of the family of Clemens' wife. Last name Langdon, I believe.
    4949) Message boards : Politics : Another experiment filled with hope (Message 1071022)
    Posted 27 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya, well, it's not like Bush 43 was the only person, group, political party, country, saying there were WMDs in Iraq at the time. And it's the most repeated reason given for Bush 43 deciding to attack because it's the most politically expedient mantra to chant. All I can do is roll my eyes when I see people walking back and forth carrying signs and repeating in unison, "Bush lied, people died."


    You did not see me type here or anywhere else that I can recall my thoughts on whether Iraqi WMDs existed or not. I said nothing regarding whether other countries, or people across party lines initially supported the decision of the administration of the time.

    It's not like a president decides to attack a country for just one reason.


    Rather than read into your statement, do you support or disagree with the claim that the bulk of reasons supplied to those of us in the USA, late 2002-early 2003, was surrounding the WMDs, supposed ties to al Qaeda and so on? Do you support or disagree with the claim that little to nothing said about helping the Iraqis to establish a democracy? That about all we heard along those lines were "They will greet us as liberators" (Cheney, I believe?) and that this was not a reason, but rather would be a side-effect of taking on Saddam with his claimed WMDs and claimed ties to al Qaeda? (No comments are being made here regarding whether any of the claims about WMDs and al Qaeda ties were close to the mark.)

    You don't hear one of the reasons Bush 43 decided to attack (among others) was to facilitate a Muslim country's transition to a real democracy in order for them to act as a guiding light for other Muslim countries. You don't hear this mantra being chanted over and over because it's not politically expedient, and, it takes a little bit of thinking to understand the long-term implications.


    Funny, I did hear that, but not in the initial build-up late 2002-early 2003 that I can recall.

    Tunisia is now the new hope, in my eyes. I'll be watching what happens.


    This is perhaps the most important part of your post, because apparently what's going on is from within! So, yes, it will be very interesting to see how they manage this, as compared to democracy being imposed by outsiders.
    4950) Message boards : Politics : Another experiment filled with hope (Message 1070937)
    Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of the least repeated reasons


    Least repeated reason for an obvious reason: not the reason given. Reason given: WMDs. 3 months later, reason shifted.

    the U.S. went into Iraq was to do something the people were powerless to do--to change their "elected officials." Saddam held regular elections and claimed he was re-elected every time with 100% of the vote.

    4951) Message boards : Politics : Awesome! (Message 1070622)
    Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great State of the Union address!!!
    4952) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1070621)
    Posted 26 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cantor said Sunday that T.E.A. in "Tea Party" stands for "Taxed Enough Already."
    By the opening post and responses in this thread, it is clear you believe in "The NET" (Not Enough Taxes). "And isn't it ironic? Don't you think? A little too ironic. Yeah, I really do think."
    4953) Message boards : Politics : Canada is having less of a foreclosure problem? (Message 1069150)
    Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's to blame?
    http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/credit/whos-to-blame-for-the-mortgage-mess-banks-not-homeowners/19803636/?icid=maing|main5|dl12|sec1_lnk3|37976_aim

    http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2011/01/18/why-canada-doesnt-have-a-foreclosure-problem/?icid=maing|main5|dl12|sec3_lnk1|37976_aim
    4954) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1069078)
    Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't consider H.R. 2 "Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act" as symbolic as some of those listed above as this actually attempts to do something.

    There's nothing about perception here. You just keep leaving out the fact that we all know it's most likely it will be defeated in The Senate. Thus, nothing is done in the end. That's symbolism.
    P.S.-that was HARASS Michael Jackson, not HONOR him. :)
    P.P.S.-as for the bolded part, please see my Forbes thread.
    4955) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1069028)
    Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Parallel thread.
    4956) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1069026)
    Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stick to the topic.
    Guy has called it a job-killing bill.
    Why? Presumably, it will be so onerous to small businesses that they will have to cut back on employees or even go out of business.
    Being what Forbes magazine is, why have they reported promising preliminary information? Could it be tax breaks greatly reduce how onerous this would be to small businesses?
    4957) Message boards : Politics : Unemployment ("Ironic"-Alanis) (Message 1069025)
    Posted 21 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01/20/poll-voters-want-congress-to-focus-on-jobs-before-health-care/?ncid=webmail

    George H.W. Bush was riding high with Operation: Desert Storm. Not long after, though, in the midst of a recession, cries of "It's the economy stupid" boomed across the USA. He lost his bid for re-election.

    But what was the first (or one of the very first, and big) thing(s) William Jefferson Clinton did? No, it wasn't their failed attempt at health care reform, led by Hilary.
    No, it was passing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
    That was not why most people elected him.

    Barack H. Obama was probably also largely elected due to a repeat of "It's the economy, stupid!"
    Though he tries, rightly or wrongly, to tie much of what he's been doing to the economy, many don't perceive it as connected, or making things worse.

    But what do we have now?
    A symbolism over substance vote by the G.O.P. in The House, to repeal the health care reform.
    And guess what, it's having repercussions faster than someone can say "Gesundheit!" after another sneezes.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01/20/poll-voters-want-congress-to-focus-on-jobs-before-health-care/?ncid=webmail

    That's right: the G.O.P. is going to hear "It's the economy/unemployment, stupid!" all over again. Politicians on both sides lose the benefit of the doubt very quickly when they ignore the reasons people voted for them. First acts should not be about ideologies and social engineering.
    4958) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1068788)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now, here's an example of viewing the same facts, but interpreting them differently. Let me highlight some key words to emphasize them, in order to maybe clarify my perception.

    Did anybody actually *watch* CSPAN in the first two years of the Obama administration? I guess not. If you had, you would have seen the Democrats *blatantly* ignore the republican's efforts to *try* to work with the democrats. And they did it with *smirks* on their faces.

    There are *dozens* of examples of republicans attempting to add/subtract/modify bills that were *blocked* by house/senate rules and passed without a *single* republican vote.

    Now, since the *fillibuster proof* democrat senate and a *majority of democrat* house could do what ever they wanted, and did on some occasions, why didn't they do *everything* they wanted?

    I know the real answer to that question. And it's not because the republicans blocked them somehow. Let me stress again, "without a single republican vote."

    Hmmmm, reality is perception... Why do I percieve these facts differently?


    Side-note: no need to add the extra lines.
    Now, as to perception, you apparently perceive you are among a small group like-minded ppl on these fora arguing against a much bigger group of liberal Democrats. Again I will remind you I am not a Democrat.
    Further, your post indicates you perceive that I support that Obama said "You Republicans can come along for the ride, otherwise, step aside" or something to that effect, or the smirking by Democrats while they held a majority in The House. Again, you are simply flat wrong about that.
    The topic here is, if it is not good for the gsnder, it's not good for the goose. (The contrapositive of the more commonly known version of the phrase.) More specifically, if you're against "symbolism over substance" in one setting, don't be a hypocrite and accept it in another situation. THAT is the topic of this thread.
    4959) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1068729)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since they knew it would probably pass in the House (and did) but not in the Senate, it was a symbolic vote. Rush Limbaugh, most likely their biggest pundit in the early and mid 90s, frequently criticized Clinton and the Democrats of providing symbolism over substance. If you're against that, then "turnabout is fair play" is NOT the way to go. Republicans also engaging in symbolism or substance may indeed be 2012 election fodder, backfiring against them. As it is, I've recently heard reports that Obama's favorability ratings are rising significantly.
    4960) Message boards : Politics : Somali pirates......... (Message 1068622)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Russians have it right. When caught, chain them to the boat and sink it.


    So that gets rid of half a dozen, what about the rest? Organised crime happens because the perpetrators see an illegal way to make money. The only way that the Somali pirates will be got rid of is for an international task force to be put together to shell their land bases and wipe them out.

    But as we all know that is unlikely to happen. Unless as I posted before, one Nations major shipping gets hit on, an elicits a response.


    Predators, Globalhawks and MQ-9 Reapers do wonders. I get aroused everytime another hellfire missile or a JDAM is deployed (and it keeps another 72 virgins busy too)!

    When word gets around that nations aren't playing around with piracy, pirates will think twice.


    "I'm Rick James!"
    4961) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1068621)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah! Yes. I believe we are now narrowing it down to one of the main reasons people have different opinons about the same fact which both observe--perception is reality.

    I've asked this question in a previous post. Why do different people see differnt things when looking at the same fact?

    Reality... hmmmm.... Perception...

    Let me contemplate a while...


    How is the contemplation proceeding?
    4962) Message boards : Politics : what time is it ??? (Message 1068619)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    excuse me but i have problem with mouse on one PC and keyboard on other PC. sorry Momo

    Try moving the good keyboard to the PC with the good mouse. :)
    4963) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1068616)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sure, there are several examples in history and at present to demonstrate government mandating you purchase something. The justification is, well, we've done it before, so, therefore, we can do it again.

    The question I have, is, what's next? Where's the limit? Is there no end?


    No, the question is why a Forbes' writer would say "Because the tax cut created in the new health care reform law providing small businesses with an incentive to give health benefits to employees is working."


    Gotta love how when you remind people to read the original post and direct them to keep on topic, the wild tangents cease and the thread dries up. I know, it is a matter of reading comprehension, isn't it?
    4964) Message boards : Politics : Symbolism over substance (Message 1068527)
    Posted 20 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rushy used to bemoan it back in the 1990s.
    Great job on that "symbolic" vote to repeal yesterday. I'll bet Rushy's proud of you.
    4965) Message boards : Politics : what time is it ??? (Message 1068313)
    Posted 19 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Salaam alikum!
    4966) Message boards : Politics : what time is it ??? (Message 1068312)
    Posted 19 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    your name let me know you were spanish, but i did not know you were morocco.
    the text i read is from USA, sure.
    nut the origin you are is ???? GOD Knows certainly better than me.
    God said, in Koran sure, roughly: " You went out some of the others ".
    So i don' t see my genetic clearly, i can say you from where i came and for where i go ( hell or paradise ? ).
    but my mother was my mother and my father my father, it is the Blood relationship.
    but science will certainly make relation about genetic in future.
    so you will see that north african and european and chinese, that are friend ?
    or something like this, a black or a white man have excatly same genetic in ADN.
    so do you understand anything about nationalities and nation ????
    So why do you tell to me you Plunge head lowered(dimmed) with Americains, either Russians or Chinese, or the others, while these nations did not exist has the origin of the man. And that these men(people) mixed, and migrated of all part, and reproduced between them, in a different way of today;
    momo19


    تحياتي. ومن sarge.
    كنت مؤرخا له australopithecus مرة واحدة.
    بينما كانت ساخنة, وقالت انها شعرت بشيء وإن الخرقاء ذكي, لم تكن سريعة الامتصاص حول بعض الامور. استخدام أواني الطبخ على الأكل هي a big issue, وكلما سجل عمار على قراءتها والرد على منتدى السياسة, إلا أنها بدأت عويل في القمر!
    4967) Message boards : Politics : what time is it ??? (Message 1068309)
    Posted 19 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    momo,

    I tried to open a dialog with you. I asked you what you were trying to say. I told you a little about my perspective and my background in order to show some common understanding. I tried to make it easy on you, since my French is weak, I used google translate. I asked for clarification. I told you a little about the audience that reads what you write. You told me you seek the "truth." Well, anybody who thinks, seeks the truth also. I wish more seeked the truth. You answered my question. Thank you.

    I suggest you do not judge people's origin by name alone. My first name is very common in France. My last name is very common in Spain. My mother has ancestors who landed here in the new world 14 years after the Mayflower from England. My father's father is from France, my father's mother is from Algeria. My father is from Morrocco.

    I am an American (and I do not say this with my head held low).

    Science tells us man evolved from Australopithecus, 3.5 million years ago, from Africa. Religion tells us otherwise.

    Religion is very personal. Let's keep it that way.

    Allez en paix avec Dieu



    I dated an Australopithecus once.
    While she was hot, she was a bit clumsy and though intelligent, not so quick on the uptake with some things. Using utensils for eating was a big issue, and whenever I'd log on to read and respond in the Politics forum, she began howling at the moon!
    4968) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1067394)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's unfortunate beliefs like this that don't allow me to wear a bandana (now also referred to as do-rags) when I leave my home. Bandanas are great to wear when one has a headache, or if they are preferred over ridiculous baseball caps. Society has accepted that that these "colors" have the meaning that the gangs think they do, according to Guy's posts.
    It is like how the term "tank-top" for a type of shirt has become the un-analyzed and disgusting term "wife-beater."
    As the gentleman that opened the event looks to be in his 50s or above, and apparently is a professor at the university where the service was held, I doubt he is a member of The Bloods. Doubtful, but perhaps he is unaware of the new meaning "colors" have taken on. But if he is aware, hopefully this was his way of denying that he accepts a red (or blue or whatever color) bandana as having the meaning the gangs have given them and society has largely accepted.
    4969) Message boards : Politics : Somali pirates......... (Message 1067345)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And don't forget, it's not *all* of the Somalians who are violent, just as it isn't *all* of Islam who are terrorists, or just as it wasn't *all* of the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor.

    So, from this point forward, I'm going to correct anybody who doesn't say, "Somali Extremists" when ever referring to the subject.


    I like that idea.
    4970) Message boards : Politics : Somali pirates......... (Message 1067236)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary Charpentier wrote:
    Robert Waite wrote:
    Why go to the trouble of finding out what is driving these men out to sea to commit such desperate acts?

    I see you don't know who the pirates are. They are not desperate hungry people. They are perhaps best described as capo's of the Somali crime families or Warlords. They hire muscle men to get on the skiff and take over the boat, while their lieutenant stays with the mother ship. It has little to do with the poverty in Somalia, it has to do with the lack of government to have a police force. If there wasn't poverty in Somalia the pay scale would just be a little higher.


    Though I haven't researched the Somali piracy issues, I am inclined to side with Gary on this one. Just as shown with the 9/11 hijackers, or members of al Qaeda since, while some are poor/desperate, there are others with decent education/income.
    4971) Message boards : Politics : USA a Global Policeman? (Message 1067232)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S.-it is also not correct to suggest the "U.S.A. as a world policeman" is a new idea or that it began subsequent to 9/11. It is perhaps subsequent to WWI and certainly in force subsequent to WWII.
    (BTW, for those with a reading comprehension problem, "subsequent" here is being used as a synonym for "after.")
    4972) Message boards : Politics : Somali pirates......... (Message 1067231)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    msattler wrote:
    ML1 wrote:
    msattler wrote:
    ... What say you......

    Duke, nukem?

    That's fine and expected on some video game or back in the bad ol' days of the Wild West...


    Much better is to look at the wider picture and sort out the real problem rather than scratch a few symptoms by blowing up a few unfortunate quickly replaced stooges.


    It's ALL our world,
    Martin


    OMG.....are you saying that even Somali Pirates have rights?????


    If we remove the "innocent until proven guilty" and due process, etc. ... for others, how many steps away are we from having the same rights removed from all of us?

    msattler wrote:
    You are either the biggest troll in the world, or the most..............


    I'll bet you and ML1 have known each other on here for a few years, probably even helping each other out over in Number Crunching. You're now calling him a troll because he disagrees with you on at least one political issue ... ?
    4973) Message boards : Politics : Somali pirates......... (Message 1067228)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The real answer is a UN response of providing a naval shield in
    international waters subject to piracy. The next intervention
    is a UN response to the conditions that lead nation states to revert
    to piracy.

    And which navy/navies will that be, as the UN is not a country, etc. ... ?
    4974) Message boards : Politics : USA a Global Policeman? (Message 1067227)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris S. wrote:
    I thought I would start this new thread because there was some interesting comments in the Edumacation one, but it was in danger of becoming off topic.

    unknown poster wrote:
    I think that everyone is capable of patrolling their own neighborhood. The USA does not need to be the global watchdog. You'd be surprised how much influence Russia, China, Europe could exert
    in the Middle East if the USA didn't push itself forward as the schoolyard bully.


    9/11 gave the USA an international bloody nose, and the American people demanded retribution. In response, the Bush administration set the USA up as the worlds policeman against terrorism. First up on the agenda was Iraq who apparently had WMD. Since then, Iran and North Korea have also incurred USA wrath.


    I think it's unfair to say that the American people demanded retribution. However, I think we could say most of us were largely behind entry into Afghanistan.
    4975) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1067226)
    Posted 16 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I find it disappointing that a native american invocation drew such criticism.
    I did find from the snipets I have finally seen the cheering and applause out of place, but that I would not pass judgement upon it. Everyone processes things in their own way.

    And I find a memorial service being turned into a political issue more than a bit disgusting, but not unexpected these days.


    Since Guy hasn't provided links (at least, not yet), Soft, can you provide links to articles/videos showing the Native American invocations?

    As to processing things in different ways, while this is true, I have to wonder if the ones cheering were there to mourn or were there for an event.
    4976) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1067028)
    Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Obama could have raised his hand and said something to the effect that this was a solemn occasion. Either he wasn't prepared for all the hootin' and hollerin' or he realized if he had done something to this effect, he would have received backlash from them and lost total control of the situation and turned it into a completely embarassing moment for himself and most everybody else there.

    I know a lot of people were cringing, including myself.


    The cheering was going on for all the speakers (or, at least, from the point I started watching), long before President Obama took the podium. Thus, the responsibility for raising a hand and calling for the poor decorum to stop fell to the first speaker (or, first speaker where cheering began).
    (For those with reading comprehension problems, synonyms for decorum.)

    I found it rather surprising for him to, all of a sudden, go Christian on us.


    Please start your own "I think Obama is a Muslim" thread.

    But I guess it was balanced by the feather and Los Angeles Bloods gang flag waiving pagan prayers at the beginning.


    Waiving, as in dismissing them? Interesting. But also a topic for another thread, preferably with links to articles and video clips, where we can clearly see these people were at that service.
    Or, if you mean waving ... hmmm ... so, flags send our prayers? Interesting. Please also start a thread discussing this concept.
    4977) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1067016)
    Posted 15 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sure, there are several examples in history and at present to demonstrate government mandating you purchase something. The justification is, well, we've done it before, so, therefore, we can do it again.

    The question I have, is, what's next? Where's the limit? Is there no end?


    No, the question is why a Forbes' writer would say "Because the tax cut created in the new health care reform law providing small businesses with an incentive to give health benefits to employees is working."
    4978) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1066470)
    Posted 14 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems to be in poor taste to me, or lacking in maturity.
    P.S.-no, I have not seen or read no reports on this, just the service itself.
    P.P.S.-gotta love ppl that make sweeping generalizations. Sorry I'm not a liberal, Keith, ha ha ha!
    (For those with a reading comprehension problem, P.P.S. means post-postscript; i.e., another postscript after the first one. ;)

    If you are talking about the memorial that Obama spoke at, I wondered that myself. I just assumed it was an American thing and that's what American's do at memorials.

    Is it unusual then?


    Es, yes, I'd say it was unusual
    When President Obama announced that earlier in the day, "Gabby opened her eyes," clapping and cheering was perhaps appropriate.
    At the introduction of each speaker, the clapping was questionable. And people going "Whoo! Whoo!" seemed way out of line.
    4979) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1066362)
    Posted 13 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posts indicating a lack of reading the article linked to in the original post shall not be responded to.
    A barrage of other links, even if read, will not be discussed when a poster lacks the courtesy of doing the assigned homework before entering this classroom.
    4980) Message boards : Politics : Cheering at a memorial service = ? (Message 1066340)
    Posted 13 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems to be in poor taste to me, or lacking in maturity.
    P.S.-no, I have not seen or read no reports on this, just the service itself.
    P.P.S.-gotta love ppl that make sweeping generalizations. Sorry I'm not a liberal, Keith, ha ha ha!
    (For those with a reading comprehension problem, P.P.S. means post-postscript; i.e., another postscript after the first one. ;)
    4981) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1066254)
    Posted 13 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary Charpentier wrote:

    Not open to interpretation. Very explicit.

    I think the issue is that it wasn't dumbed down enough for those that don't understand the precise meanings of the tax and accounting lingo that was used. Then again that came from the Tax Policy people and not the reporter.


    These two paragraphs are an example of what I referred to as waffling.

    And then, "dumbing down"? Do you really want to go there? I'm not going to take the time to combat that, except to say this:
    This was reported by Jeanne Sahadi of CNN. The reporter does have a responsibility to take the information provided/obtained and express that in a concise yet clear way. Doing a little translation for intelligent people who do not specialize in the areas contained within finance is not dumbing down.

    KWSN - MajorKong wrote:
    Ok, Sarge. Once again.You seem to perceive only two possibilities (please correct me if I am wrong):


    It doesn't matter how many possibilities there are.

    KWSN - MajorKong wrote:
    When money is withheld from your paycheck for the purposes of 'federal income tax', that money is not 'paid tax' at that time. It is only an interest-free (sadly) loan you are giving the Government, which then adds this withholding as a credit to your account with them.


    This is not news to me.

    KWSN - MajorKong wrote:
    You have not officially 'paid your federal income tax' until you have sent in your return and it has been processed. Why? They cannot know for certain how much you owed until your return has been sent in and processed.


    Again, this is not news to me, and in my case (shared by others), it is just semantics. Because, in my case and the case of others, it is a matter of switching calling it, "you provided us (the federal government) a (interest free) loan" to "you paid us your taxes" but you overpaid or underpaid or balanced out at 0. For us, semantics, semantics, semantics.

    KWSN - MajorKong wrote:
    If, according to your return (for one reason or another), you owed no federal income tax at all, and you get a complete refund of everything that might have been withheld, then you have PAID NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX that year.

    Yes, that's been the question, and I think, despite the wording of the article, it's been cleared up that it is what the article claimed. I don't think you'll find at any point that I've been debating whether the 47% is correct or not.

    [quote=KWSN - MajorKong]And at that income level, their situation is rather typical. Why else do you think you see so many people at H R Block (and its competition) lining up for 'tax refund loans', though if they were smart, filed rather early, and choose 'direct deposit', they could get their 'refund' in 2 or 3 weeks and not pay the rather high interest rate these loans have.


    I do not look at what's going on at H & R Block or any of their competitors, because I generally do not need their services. I did call them last year with a question and it turned out they could not help me, hence I did not make the 1.5-2 mile trip over to their office. That's the only contact I've ever had with H & R Block.

    As for recent comments about "reading comprehension," "mathematical ability" and "liberals" ... . Wow. More sweeping generalizations.
    4982) Message boards : Politics : Who to vote for in 2012 (Message 1065917)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember, the thread is CLOSED.
    4983) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065850)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I process in parallel back and forth between SETI and Rosetta, but you need not concern yourself.

    Apparently with a completely different computer?

    The benefit of the doubt begins to crumble.


    What are you talking about? 'Splain yourself.


    LOL, LOL, LOL, Weezy, da links do all da 'splainin' for us.
    4984) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1065849)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The blog linked to (at the magazine for rich folks) does not use the word "security" or "thousands," hence Keith must not have read the article he claims to be responding to. Hence, we have no reason to read the 50 articles in his heaps of links.
    4985) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065848)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "keith" denied having another account here. The numbers, tell me the account was made, just to post in politics. I also notice a keith1 in a ressurected thread. I think that account had 1 RAC.

    So either keith was dishonest, or.. keith was dishonest.



    Really? What did I deny? Where? What?

    I've had a little over 50 postings here. Cite the numbers and how you reach your factual conclusion. I don't care about your opinion.

    I have one account here... and I will add I've only had one account EVER.
    This is my first venture in to global parallel processing through BOINC.

    I have BOINC on a Linux harddrive and I switch processing times between SETI and Rosetta with that drive.

    Explain yourself. What are you accusing me of?

    Be honest. Are you some 8 year old in your mom's basement playing on the intertubes?

    For that matter, is Sarge also?

    If you guys are INEPT at arguing and debating politics, don't divert to lick your wounds.


    Now, now, Keith, do avoid the flames.
    And I have already shown the claim you made that strongly appears false.
    P.S.-they're called inNer tubes.
    4986) Message boards : Politics : Who to vote for in 2012 (Message 1065847)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny most/all missed the point of the thread.
    Thread closed.
    4987) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065745)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wish I'd taken a picture of my bookcase when I placed "The Bible," "The Dragons of Eden" (Sagan), "Earth in the Balance" (Gore) and "The Way Things Ought to Be" (Limbaugh) all in a line.

    You seem to be missing, "A Stranger in a Strange Land" (Heinlein).

    There was a context to the entire post, of which you replied to a part. There are, unsurprisingly, other books in the library. Consider the mentioning of the juxtaposition of the books listed in the context of the overall discussion.
    4988) Message boards : Politics : How many people actually use Facebook on a regular basis? (Message 1065743)
    Posted 12 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are some here who play the game of having as many friends on their seti friends list as possible. That is just one aspect of seti that you can ignore if you don't like it.

    Oh, shush. We know nobody here is like that. :)
    4989) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065730)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that we're finding out Jared Loughner is a "left wing pot-head," the issue will die down soon.


    http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/drugs-alcohol/marijuana6.htm

    More than 71 million Americans over the age of 12 had tried marijuana as of 1998, which is more than 25 percent of the national population. Frequent usage is lower than it was in 1979, when 13.2 percent of the U.S. population over the age of 12 was using marijuana on a monthly basis. In 1999, it had declined to 5.1 percent.


    With millions of users, marijuana use isn't limited to one demographic group. It cuts across all racial and economic boundaries. However, marijuana use is highest among younger people. The prevalence of marijuana use in teenagers doubled from 1992 to 1999: One out of every 13 kids aged 12 to 17 were current users of marijuana in 1999. The 1998 National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse indicates that marijuana is very easy to obtain. Half of all 13-year-olds said that they can find and purchase marijuana, according to the study. Of teens surveyed, 49 percent said that they had first tried marijuana at age 13 or younger.
    (Emphasis added.)

    Wow. 49%. And they'd all decided to be "leftists" by age 13 or earlier?
    And how do you explain traditionally red states that have legalized medical marijuana?
    4990) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065718)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that we're finding out Jared Loughner is a "left wing pot-head," the issue will die down soon.

    The left is so anxious to try to explain what happened in November, they jumped the *gun* on this issue, only to find out he wasn't the golden nugget.


    Now that we're finding out Jared Loughner is a mentally ill young man with no discernible coherent ideology, there are still issues to consider.

    Now that we're finding out that the side you listen to tells you want you want to hear, there are still issues to consider.

    Now that personal experience has shown us that there are plenty of pot-smoking Republicans and pot-smoking does not equal being a leftist, there are still issues to consider.

    Now that we know Sarge not only never inhaled, but never even tried smoking it once, will Sarge be the first one allowed to cast a stone? Nah.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110110/cm_ac/7577804_jared_loughner_portrait_of_the_tuscon_safeway_shooter_1
    4991) Message boards : Politics : Who to vote for in 2012 (Message 1065711)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4992) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1065618)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Consider: choosing to not go through such things with the TSA, by deciding not to fly, one also denies himself or herself another freedom; that of the fastest mode of transportation in most cases above a certain mileage. (This even includes original and new wait times.)


    Ah, but if it is a freedom, do I not also have the right to choose to not do so? Or has the exercise of one's freedoms suddenly become compulsory? If so, then I submit to you that those activities are no longer 'freedoms'.

    Edit: I have the freedom to travel. Must I then travel? Or do I also have the freedom to stay at home and take it easy?

    What happened to my choice of modes of transport? Do I not have the freedom to choose the one I wish, assuming it is within my means?

    To me, a big part of the joy of travel is seeing new places during the journey, up close and personal. I can stop if I wish and look at something that catches my interest.

    That is a bit difficult to do if I am jammed into a metal tube with many other people like sardines in a can, flying over at 38,000 feet at 500mph.

    I have the freedom to travel, if that is my wish and I can afford it. I also have the freedom to not travel, if that is my wish.

    I have the freedom to choose modes of transportation as I wish (again, subject to affordability), if I choose to travel.

    Everyone else has the same freedoms.

    Ever hear of another freedom... called 'freedom of choice'?


    Degrees of freedom. Number of options.
    4993) Message boards : Politics : Who to vote for in 2012 (Message 1065607)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4994) Message boards : Politics : Who to vote for in 2012 (Message 1065497)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4995) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1065435)
    Posted 11 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gary Charpentier wrote:
    As a little aside, if you are a single male (or childless female) in the USA most likely you pay income tax. If you aren't until you make well above the poverty line most likely you don't pay income tax. If you look at the number of single head of household plus the number of married people in the USA then the 47% zero total income tax figure begins to make sense. The Government wants you married and making babies.

    This is not news to me.
    However, MajorKong stated here that "Oh, and that family of 4 with the $30,000 / year income isn't officially 'poor'. Federal HHS poverty level for that family of 4 is $22,050." I recently heard that the median salary in the U.S. is about $42000-$43000 per year. If so, then, of course, approximately 50% make less than this. But, what percentage, single or married or married with children fall below the poverty line?

    Gary Charpentier wrote:
    My answer to you to work it out is because I am confidant if you do you will see that the zero that is mentioned in the article is not the refund line, but the total tax line, the one above the credits on the tax form. I also don't think my telling you it is so will be as effective in pulling the wool from your eyes as if you figure it out yourself.

    The phrase "pull the wool from your/his/her/our/their eyes" implies deception, perhaps including self-deception. I believe your use of the phrase in this instance is inappropriate, but I am willing to give you a (thin) thread of benefit of the doubt because you don't know me.
    Next, I will tell you a far better way to get an inkling as to whether your intepretation of the article is correct: in http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62490&nowrap=true#1060400, I stated:
    Sarge wrote:
    I did bring up this thread to a friend who helps me with my grading. He did tell me he makes so little that he has had very very little withheld over this entire year. But it is not nothing. And while this pushes me closer to being able to believe Gary, I still do not see this made clear in the article.


    Gary Charpentier wrote:
    I am somewhat curious why you believe it can not be the total tax line and must be the refund line? Is it because you have been led to believe most people in the USA pay Federal Income Tax and you simply can't believe it to not be so?

    Gee, who could be leading me to believe this? Oh, that's right, no one, because this is not a typical topic of conversation among my family, friends, or news I pay attention to. Remember, (thin) thread of benefit of the doubt.
    Now, what I have argued all along is the lack of clarity in the article. If I haven't made it clear to you the instances of lack of clarity, see below.
    When working part-time jobs, for a pittance, as an undergrad, I don't recall having a total tax owed of $0 or even close to that. But, that could either be me not remembering well enough (a rarity) or there have been changes in the tax code (more likely and not surprising). Add to this what I already said about my grader. a non-traditional age student, one year older than me, married but no kids, and mostly pulling in a pittance from tutoring.

    As I have said, people who have responded have, or appear to have, vacillated on to which thing this total of 0 refers. No, I am not referring to anyone who has said all along that it is not the total tax is 0. Let us examine again the first few paragraphs of the article.

    keith wrote:
    Jeanne Sahadi wrote:
    47% will pay no federal income tax

    Nope, not clear. How hard would it be, in the article, to say either:
    (1) The total tax paid by withholding from paychecks, is 0, versus
    (2) After credits, amount already paid in, and determining whether there is a refund or an additional amount to be paid, yadda yadda yadda.
    Nope, not clear in the title. But, hey, it's a title and lengthy titles tend to be reserved for theses and dissertations. :) Let's examine further down.

    keith wrote:
    Jeanne Sahadi wrote:
    In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

    Nope, not clear here, either. A clear statement in support of your interpretation could read as "In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not have any federal income tax withheld from their paychecks and will further find they do not owe anything when completing their 1040s ... ." Just a few more words. No need for interpretation. My suggesting this does not indicate what I believe about which interpretation is true, it simply indicates I find the article lacking in clarity.

    keith wrote:
    Jeanne Sahadi wrote:
    The ranks of those whose major federal tax burdens net out at zero -- or less -- is on the rise.

    Focus on the phrases "federal tax burdens" and "net out at zero."
    It should come as no surprise that, here too, the lack of clarity of Jeanne Sahadi's writing has left things open to interpretation.
    Dealing with the second phrase first, "net" is probably interpreted by most people as "amount after all is said and done."
    "Federal tax burden": nope, not clear that this refers to a total amount of 0 withheld from paychecks during the year and also not owing after that. I'm sure most or all regard being taxed as a burden. And we can argue about the constitutionality of being taxed, or the particulars of the current tax code, or how our tax money is spent. But one can say, "Phew, I didn't owe" or "Phew, I got a refund," yet have paid their federal taxes through their paycheck withholdings and after a refund still think "Well, I did my part, paying my federal tax burden. Thank goodness I overpaid and got some back!"

    Gary Charpentier wrote:
    I will point out two others in the thread, both tax preparation persons, back up my reading of the article.

    Then I think I can take this as indirect support of my claim in this post: the article lacked clarity that could have been easily fixed.
    Can we at least agree on this?
    4996) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1065389)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Consider: choosing to not go through such things with the TSA, by deciding not to fly, one also denies himself or herself another freedom; that of the fastest mode of transportation in most cases above a certain mileage. (This even includes original and new wait times.)
    4997) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065331)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It might just be your paranoia talking, and wouldn't that make you 'disturbed' too, just like the alleged shooter?

    You did see this was a question, not a statement or accusation ...?
    4998) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1065329)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do we need a bunch of undereducated, poorly motivated, never-do-wells on power trips working for the government making our lives miserable?

    Sounds like an assumption about the nature of TSA employees. Sweeping generalization?
    I know some semi-well educated ne'er-do-wells.

    It is simple, if you don't like the job one airline is doing, book on another. If an airline makes a bad mistake, put them out of business through a combination of (1)loss of business and (2)many law suits.

    (Numbers added.)
    (1) Sure. Good idea.
    (2) Just what we need. Not!
    4999) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065326)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet you think this posts about you! don't you! hehe

    I'm ... soooo ... vain.
    5000) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065317)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just does not add up. There has to be a lot more in regards to motive that we are not aware of at this time. Can't we just let it all come out at trial and let the judge and jury do their jobs?

    Yes, I can. And that includes not siding with the side you're arguing against nor accepting your suggestion that there's more to this.
    Supposedly, the guy is mentally ill. Depending on the severity, then, regardless of his political beliefs, it is quite possible he wasn't even paying attention to the party affiliation/voting record of the Congresswoman, and similar comments could be made about the Judge.
    Moreover, the fact that he had read (had in his library?) both "Mein Kampf" and "The Communist Manifesto" is not an indication of being either a far-leftist or a member of the extreme right. It can mean he was well-read. It could mean he was confused. Only analysis of overall patterns can answer this.
    (Of course, Glenn Beck likes to confuse people and make them believe Nazism was the same as Socialism.)
    I wish I'd taken a picture of my bookcase when I placed "The Bible," "The Dragons of Eden" (Sagan), "Earth in the Balance" (Gore) and "The Way Things Ought to Be" (Limbaugh) all in a line.
    5001) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065312)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like a doctor striking just below the knee cap to test for reflexes, the Arizona incident causes reflexive responses from some in congress:

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Rep. Carolyn Maloney , D-N.Y. want to introduce legistation to further limit the 2nd amendment.

    And Rep. Robert Brady, D-PA, wants to introduce legislation to degrade the 1st amendment.

    A dose of swift justice would send a clear message to anybody thinking about these kinds of shenanigans in the future. But noooOOOOOOoooooo, the alleged suspect has *rights.* The people he killed are already dead, so they don't matter any more.

    And people wonder why violence seems to be on the rise.


    Whoa, wait a minute, you want to remove the Miranda Rights from The Constitution?
    5002) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065308)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". While the term troll and its associated action trolling are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

    so does this make you think of someone


    Hey! I'm not that bad!
    5003) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : 2012 - real or not? (Message 1065202)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Die With Your Boots On
    5004) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065200)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I process in parallel back and forth between SETI and Rosetta, but you need not concern yourself.

    Apparently with a completely different computer?

    The benefit of the doubt begins to crumble.
    5005) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of ... (Message 1065199)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    15 out of 54.
    Equivalent to 5 out of 18.
    0.27(repeating 7).
    27.7(repeating) percent.

    54 = total posts.
    15 = posts outside a thread of own creation.
    5006) Message boards : Politics : Take back the 20 graphic.. (Message 1065168)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like printer's registration marks to me, but they seem to be gone amok and not outside the trim area as normal.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSyZt1v128w ... "Don't retreat, reload." Clearly, the marks are gun targets. The question is ... an incitement to violence or not?
    5007) Message boards : Politics : How many people actually use Facebook on a regular basis? (Message 1065133)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm keeping well clear of such silliness.

    I have real friends! Who needs a 'virtual' 5000?

    (Unless you're called ... :-p )


    Cheers,
    Martin


    Shhh!
    5008) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1065132)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A post so I can change the thread name.
    5009) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1065131)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is also not allowed to detonate a nuclear weapon within its city limits.


    Take heed, Russia, should you wish to re-form the USSR, and all ye dirty bombers of al Qaeda.
    5010) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1065126)
    Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obviously, the original post was a joke.
    What is serious is:

    If you can not overcome your fears, the terrorists have won.




    As far as it goes, Sarge, you are correct.


    But, again, it was Soft that said it.
    However, this has been said before, by many.

    The 'terrorists' won, in so far as they were an excuse for fundamental negative changes in the fabric of our society.

    The actions of the terrorists provided an excuse for the more authoritarian elements in power in this country to justify actions that significantly curtailed the freedoms and liberties of the people in this nation with very little if any gain in security. I would go so far as to say that given the loss of the safeguards of our freedoms and liberties, we are LESS secure. The 'security' used as justification was illusion, nothing more.

    But, regardless of who you class as the 'winners', the terrorists or the authoritarians, it is clear that The People were the 'losers'.


    Agreed.
    But can we blame Bush for this one?
    Or do we have to go back to 98 or 99-Clinton had his shot at bin Laden and missed?
    Personally, I haven't flown since 2007. I don't need to do a lot of flying.
    5011) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1065113)
    Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Somebody Necro'ed a thread again. The last posts with much of any substance on Religion are from back in August, including one from Qui-gon I thought was a rather nice statement of Deism. Is the topic of religion around here fallen out of favor, is it discouraged either officially or unofficially? Please forgive me the question, I have been away for a while.


    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#420919
    5012) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1065048)
    Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We await your response, Keith.
    5013) Message boards : Politics : Forbes: more small businesses offering health care to employees thanks to Obamacare (Message 1064347)
    Posted 7 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/01/06/more-small-businesses-offering-health-care-to-employees-thanks-to-obamacare/
    5014) Message boards : Politics : The Simple Math of CO2 Reduction (Message 1063617)
    Posted 5 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Honda Civic, about 30MPG, less than $20,000 new.

    Heck, I could get a 1986 Honda Civic CRX to do 38 mpg in 1994. So much for progress!
    5015) Message boards : Politics : HAHAHA! Dennis Miller: The Big Speech (Message 1063613)
    Posted 5 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In 1988 or 1989, Miller put on a show at the college I was attending.
    He went for about 45 minutes.
    The opening act, an acoustic guitar player, also went 45 minutes and was more entertaining to listen to.
    5016) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1063611)
    Posted 5 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obviously, the original post was a joke.
    What is serious is:

    If you can not overcome your fears, the terrorists have won.

    5017) Message boards : Politics : Understanding USA Politics (Message 1062578)
    Posted 2 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris S
    You can believe that whole speel posted by MajorKong or you can look at the reality of the facts.
    The United States has one political party. It is the party of the super rich and the corporations.

    The party of the super rich has two divisions, each of which fight for the right to form government and do so under the watchful eye of their super rich masters.

    The super rich don't care which, republican or democrat, forms government because the policies and wants of the super rich will still be advanced.
    But, Robert, I think you do it much more. Much.
    This is why I laugh when anyone calls the democrats a pack of socialists.
    The people who say this are either politically naive or they are part of the lie.


    Though MajorKong has already responded to this, Robert I am sorry to say this post of yours does a disservice to your attempts to explain your points of view and argue against those viewpoints you disagree with. I suspect you read in one of MajorKong's recent posts that he considers himself closest to Libertarian, and you probably shut down after that. Yet, I completely agree with MajorKong that your post has major points of agreement with his, while you act, through your post, as if his post is diametrically opposed to your view (and "the truth").
    Unfortunately, I also see evidence that MajorKong will also misread posts and shut down further communication with certain posters.
    5018) Message boards : Politics : Swinging to the "Right" (Message 1062572)
    Posted 2 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Robert, you suffer from a persecution complex.

    Evidence exists that you do as well.
    5019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 4 (Message 1062513)
    Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woman

    mystery!
    5020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original Cafe @ 12-04-10 (Message 1062512)
    Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Good morning.

    I hope without a hangover.


    There seem to be some in the Political forum, lol! :)
    5021) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1062505)
    Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I can't find your reference to "Reckless Medicine" from the November 2010 issue of Discover Magazine. You have my attention and interest.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtQKcBg6z_GppM4BZAncXy.bvZx4?p=%22reckless+medicine%22+november+discover+magazine&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=%22reckless%20medicine%22%20november%20discover%20magazine&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=b54c4bac999a8c85&pf=p&pdl=3000

    I have sometimes been able to find direct links some articles posted online, posted by the magazine itself, but so far, no luck on this one.



    Yes, it seems that Discover have changed their policy when it comes to viewing past articles:

    In January, 2010, DISCOVER launched a login system that gives magazine subscribers exclusive Web access to some of the recent feature articles from the magazine. If you're not a subscriber and you want to read one of these premium articles, you can subscribe to the magazine online (you'll get instant access to the entire DISCOVER Web site) or buy the digital edition of that issue.


    Source

    Looks like an interesting article.


    They tried it before, say around 2006, and I registered then, but am no longer registered. (As I am already a subscriber-a cool Christmas gift from Dad every year-I'm sure I could do it again, for free.) However, I am pretty sure I was able to find another full article from them this year ... an article only a month or so old.
    5022) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1062267)
    Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Though such a point was implied, it wasn't my main intention. Skil asked "What is this Google you speak of?" and I was reminded of a recent statement to me from ML1 (Martin) in the "What's wrong with this picture" thread, so I copied and altered it to fit the Google question.
    Google is not my first place to search.


    My comment about "[t]here always google" was followed by a link to the UK TV license fee site itself, and was a response to a request for a British friend to post the current cost of the license. I'm not sure I qualify as a "British friend" any more, having been a documented US resident since March '99 and a US citizen since November '11, though I was trying to show that a Brit was not required, an internet search would suffice. Apologies for not using a product neutral term in my earlier post. Google is my first place for an internet search, though I understand there are alternatives :).


    Doh, correction, US citizen since November '07. What was I thinking?


    "21.1 gigawatts? What was I thinking?!?"
    5023) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062259)
    Posted 1 Jan 2011 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, that was difficult. You couldn't spend 1 minute doing a search?

    Only one minute on another site, when there's so many other things to respond to with backing provided?

    Besides, why research something that hardly comes as a surprise?
    5024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original Cafe @ 12-04-10 (Message 1062149)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello.

    It looks like Sarge...It smells like Sarge...It must be Sarge!

    I showered!
    5025) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1062121)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, yes, bigger, more, less... can apply to other large organizations. Please allow them to fail. The biggest organization, our country--please don't allow them to fail.


    I include in large organizations the following:
    1) Corporations.
    2) Unions.
    3) Religious institutions, such as The Catholic Church.
    4) Of course, government.
    That is just part of a list we could build.
    Which ones can be allowed to fail? Is there a "domino effect" potential?

    Sarge, in reference to the "...care about U.S. politics?" This was in response to a barage of quips based on false premises and borderline insults. ... . I have asked our friend, Robert, up in Canada at least one very specific question about health care, and he has ignored it.


    I generally read, but do not add to or respond to Robert's posts. I have told him before, essentially, that his style of debate is much like those he decries: toeing a party line; short; insulting; and so on. This covers both things I agree and disagree with him on.

    Sarge, in reference to "Are we all Google victims?" question. You have a good point. However, I believe the victims are those who don't look at where Google points and first determine the credibility of the source of information they're trying to retrieve. Google is good in that we no longer have to rely on an outdated bookshelf full of Encyclopedia Britanicas or have to take the effort to drive to the nearest library. It's fault is that it points into a free and open society able to publish anything--true or false. Of course, (this can't be stated enough) with freedom comes responsibility.


    Though such a point was implied, it wasn't my main intention. Skil asked "What is this Google you speak of?" and I was reminded of a recent statement to me from ML1 (Martin) in the "What's wrong with this picture" thread, so I copied and altered it to fit the Google question.
    Google is not my first place to search.
    Note in responding to your next question, about the "Reckless Medicine" article, I provided you not one link, but links both from Yahoo and Google to several websites referring to the article.
    I've mentioned this before: Howard Gardner wrote a book, with Emma Laskin, called "Leading Minds" in the late 90s. There is a short bit towards the end about leadership in the information age. Unfortunately, even for its time perhaps, this bit was too short and I wonder what an update on it would be like now.

    Since you do not wish to pay Brett Favre's salary, you do not have to. The free market says there's a demand for his service, since the demand is so great, the price people are willing to pay is great.


    Should the demand, and salary, be that great? It's similar with other entertainers, actors and musicians. Have you ever met someone that sings at least as well as someone that won American Idol? (Do I watch it? No!) And before someone says, well, that person that won American Idol took a chance, consider the musicians that took a chance and struggled for 10 years before hitting it big and deserved to hit it big. The entertainment industry is another one of those "large" things we could mention. I believe they do not seek to push talent. They seek to push trends.
    5026) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062108)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see where this is headed. You twist words for amusement. I am not playing that game. Be well.


    That's a shame, I'm still waiting for the answers to my two questions:


    I'm pretty sure he's talking to me, and it's still a shame.
    5027) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1062070)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I can't find your reference to "Reckless Medicine" from the November 2010 issue of Discover Magazine. You have my attention and interest.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AtQKcBg6z_GppM4BZAncXy.bvZx4?p=%22reckless+medicine%22+november+discover+magazine&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=%22reckless%20medicine%22%20november%20discover%20magazine&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=b54c4bac999a8c85&pf=p&pdl=3000

    I have sometimes been able to find direct links some articles posted online, posted by the magazine itself, but so far, no luck on this one.
    5028) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062068)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, that was difficult. You couldn't spend 1 minute doing a search?

    Only one minute on another site, when there's so many other things to respond to with backing provided?
    5029) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062066)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps your sister either did not live in the better parts of the USA, or she did not know how to take advantage of the help that was available.

    I can't wait for the answer to this part.
    5030) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062065)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Taking a measured look at the usefulness of such funding is besides the point, earmarks are all "bridges to nowhere". Right?


    "I was for the bridge to nowhere before I was against it." :)
    5031) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1062062)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see where this is headed. You twist words for amusement. I am not playing that game. Be well.

    Hardly.
    5032) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1062060)
    Posted 31 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What do we do with our time?[/quote[

    Check my last 20 to 30 posts to find 1 or 2 ideas. :)

    [quote]And what is the 'real story'?... You can't say much in a Soundbite.


    Clearly, one can hear a soundbite or watching an interesting program and then learn more looking on the internet or going to a local library.
    5033) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061344)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew you were British, but your current residence in Canada is new to me.

    This is not news. Her plan was made public knowledge on these fora, and I believe so was the fact that she had followed through.

    Uhh.. I didn't say it was news... I said 'new to me'. I haven't been around much in a while, and did not know she had moved.

    And why did she make such a large move? While it'd be best to let Es elaborate itself, I'll say "Guess what? To better herself!"
    I believe it was in this thread that you responded with something along the lines of "If you're not happy with your wages, you are free to find a better job with better wages." Correct?
    If so, that approach is fine, but why is it not fine by your standards to make the demand for better wages at one's current job?


    Simple, the word 'demand' is confrontational and has an implied 'or-else' subtext. Request a raise all you want. Improve your productivity, and demonstrate to your employer how much more money you are making for the company, and they will likely reward you. Pop a demand on them, especially if you haven't earned it, and you will likely get fired.

    Now, all that said, I do think that teachers tend to be underpaid in the USA. I can't speak for Canada/the UK/elsewhere, but here they are. But, since most tend to be public employees, their rates of pay are set by at least one level of government, from the local school board on up. They can't very well go ask for a raise. My wife is a teacher, and I was close to being one myself before my illness hit a few years ago.

    For example, if a teacher can make $43000/year in one position and then wind up making $27000-$32000 in another that requires the same amount, or more, work ... ? Well, I'll let you chew on that and ask your own questions or offer your own thoughts.
    Returning to Es and her decision to make such a large move to improve herself (and, by extension, those she teaches), while that is an example of exercising the freedoms you mention. However, I'm willing to bet you are familiar with the terms "constraints" and "degrees of freedom." Consider for some time what constraints she might have faced, as well as anyone else making similar choices, either of the same scale or even smaller scale.


    She had every right to change jobs, and even nations, if she determined it was what she wanted to do. You seem to have gotten the idea that I was somehow against her doing so. Where, may I ask, did you get that silly idea?


    Where, may I ask, did you get the silly idea that I had such a silly idea? You spoke of people having a sense of entitlement. I pointed out that instead Es took it upon herself to improve herself. How do you see that as a suggestion that you would be against her doing so, when clearly your recent posts suggest that is an action you would applaud? When did providing additional background become putting words in someone else's mouth that are clearly opposite of what they say elsewhere?

    As for "demand" ... . Kinetic versus potential energy. A demand in itself is not necessarily hostile nor for something undeserved.
    5034) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061339)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW, what does Brett Favre produce?


    Entertainment.


    Not to me. Unless you want to include his bit part at the end of "There's Something About Mary," lol.

    I am of the school that believes it's funner to get a bunch of friends together and knock each other around in the snow while a brown pigskin ellipsoid shape wonders why it is occasionally thrown and carried around at semi-high speeds.
    And if that cannot be done, I am "free" to seek out or create other forms of entertainment. None of which require paying a questionable person hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars per year.
    5035) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1061337)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As to who has fought over it and when, I didn't pay that much attention in history class. IIRC there wasn't a fight when Moses led them there. The first fight I remember much of would be the Romans. However they fought over every hunk of land they invaded so it wasn't specific to that land. Jesus came in there about that time. I don't remember him having a fight over the land there at that time. Then a few centuries later I think the Mohammed came. Not much after that the crusades started and ever since then there has been war over there. Now it wasn't until the British came in and drew lines in the sand that the war became over land and not I want to kill you because your relative killed my relative. Anyway that's how I remember history class.

    The great thing is, one can make up for the deficits of earlier learning experiences (wherever the fault may lie).
    At the very least, one could read The Bible (and, if you like, read it for the history behind it as opposed to the supernatural matters), and watch the History Channel or look things up on the web.
    As the oft-repeated shows on The History Channel have reminded me, there were battles fought immediately after Moses death and upon the entry into Canaan. Beginning with the Canaanites themselves. Apparently, these battles with the Canaanites and others who came along who wishes to conquer the area for themselves (such as, as mentioned in brief by Skil, the Philistines) lasted around 3 centuries, from Joshua (immediate succesor to Moses?) through David. Chronicled in The Book of Judges.
    As for The Crusades, were looking at at least 400 years between the time of Mohammed and the beginning of those wars.
    5036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original Cafe @ 12-04-10 (Message 1061310)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello.
    5037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sign The World Is Ending (Message 1061309)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm..no I have been on it all evening with no problem

    Interesting, its been unreachable here in Oz for about 8 hours.

    I don't believe in Facebook. Or is that "I Don't Believe in Love"?
    5038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 4 (Message 1061305)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Frozen (over)

    East.
    5039) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061302)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I have to?


    You're not getting into the spirit of the twisting! You are welcome to do the checking or do nothing. (You will also be welcome to get sick from tainted eggs. Or you will be welcome to not buy eggs. Or you will be welcome to start a little chicken house and persuade the chickens to procreate and then lend you some of their eggs. Starting to see how the "you are welcome to ..." thing works yet?)

    I guess that presupposes that the USDA inspectors are sleeping with Kelloggs and Nabisco execs, kind of like the Interior Department's "Minerals Management Service" government inspectors were sleeping with BP'ers on the oil rig, LITERALLY.


    You already mentioned this. Literally. But you didn't provide us to links of the Paris Hilton type videos that implicate government inspectors. You are, of course, welcome to either provide or not provide those links. However, at left it does say that "Posts must be 'kid friendly': they may not contain content that is obscene, hate-related, sexually explicit or suggestive" so making links to such videos in the public fora is probably not a good idea. :)

    Is that happening? Do you know something the rest of us don't?


    Unless you have a cloned copy of my brain and receive constant updates on my experiences and new knowledge gained, then, yes, I know something you don't and vice versa. Straw man. :)
    5040) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061296)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Later on, you say you can't take the educator credit? If you spend your personal money on items for your classroom, you can take up to $250 in credit. That's money that's subtracted from your tax bill, not from your AGI. Double check that, you may be paying $250 more in taxes than you need to be paying. That's was something that nobody was going to have if the "bush tax cuts" had expired.

    IIRC, there are conditions.
    Yes, I've bought some red pens for grading, but I can also get them from my department. Really, I highly doubt what I spend directly per year on items/materials adds up too much.
    However, the laptop I am using to type up this response also is heavily used for communicating with students outside of class time and developing things. Development of assessments and classroom materials that can be printed (usually at the cost of the department-rarely do I print things at home, since it uses up too much of my personal paper and ink very quickly), or displayed on the "old school technology" of an overhead projector or a "visualizer"/"ELMO."
    Add to that the addition to my energy costs for keeping the laptop on to perform these various tasks.
    I do not see how the things I mentioned in the last 2 paragraphs could be quantified and documented in order to claim the credit. And part of the issue in that is that they are not physical materials such as an elementary teacher purchasing poster boards so kids can decorate his/her classroom.
    5041) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061289)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone can work their whole life so the government can WASTE it on crap like this: from Senator John McCain, we learn that the massive, unread, monstrous omnibus spending bill contains the following earmarks:

    $277,000 for potato pest management in Wisconsin
    $246,000 for bovine tuberculosis in Michigan and Minnesota
    $522,000 for cranberry and blueberry disease and breeding in New Jersey
    $500,000 for oyster safety in Florida
    $349,000 for swine waste management in North Carolina
    $413,000 for peanut research in Alabama
    $247,000 for virus free wine grapes in Washington
    ...
    $94,000 for blackbird management in Louisiana
    $165,000 for maple syrup research in Vermont
    ...

    Hope & Change, huh? No thanks.


    Well, then, to twist a frequent response, you are free to check for yourself that the food you buy is safe and you are free to research improving or creating new foods, or the production of those foods. :)
    5042) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061282)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew you were British, but your current residence in Canada is new to me.

    This is not news. Her plan was made public knowledge on these fora, and I believe so was the fact that she had followed through.
    And why did she make such a large move? While it'd be best to let Es elaborate itself, I'll say "Guess what? To better herself!"
    I believe it was in this thread that you responded with something along the lines of "If you're not happy with your wages, you are free to find a better job with better wages." Correct?
    If so, that approach is fine, but why is it not fine by your standards to make the demand for better wages at one's current job? For example, if a teacher can make $43000/year in one position and then wind up making $27000-$32000 in another that requires the same amount, or more, work ... ? Well, I'll let you chew on that and ask your own questions or offer your own thoughts.
    Returning to Es and her decision to make such a large move to improve herself (and, by extension, those she teaches), while that is an example of exercising the freedoms you mention. However, I'm willing to bet you are familiar with the terms "constraints" and "degrees of freedom." Consider for some time what constraints she might have faced, as well as anyone else making similar choices, either of the same scale or even smaller scale.
    5043) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061279)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    -Educator credit if you're a teacher

    Unfortunately, this either does not apply to all that teach in the US (consider the different levels of education one can teach at) or even if it does, there are conditions to meet. One way or another, I have not been able to claim this credit.

    Does this clear anything up?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I knew credits were out there, and virtually all of them are ones I cannot apply for, except sometimes I have been able to use the one on student loans.
    So, you've provided details I did not necessarily know, but conceptually it did not answer anything for me.

    To reiterate, my main question right now is: either we've got 47% of the population with no federal income tax being withheld, period, or we've got 47% of the population that have, around 4/15, either a net balance of 0 or a refund.

    Sarge, it really isn't that hard to do the math on what is withheld from a paycheck. I provided the link to the publication from the IRS for employers to calculate it. Or try page two here on the W-4

    All I say is over the years when I calculated payroll where I have worked I've seen a bunch with no income tax taken out. Yes, everyone pays FICA, but that is pension and medical. I've seen a $100,000+ salary with nothing taken out. I've seen just above minimum wage with nothing taken out.

    So yes, it means 47% of Americans get everything in income tax they had taken out of their check refunded at the end of the year.

    Ask at your local H&R Block office.


    Gary, asking me to do the math is like asking you to do ... well, whatever it is you do for a living ... and the simplest of the tasks you tackle, of all things.

    What I see here is waffling. I asked a simple question.
    "This does not say that 47% will not have it deducted from a single paycheck. It says, or strongly implies, that on April 15, they did not owe or received a refund."
    I asked whether the 47% have nothing withheld at all, from paycheck to paycheck, or is that they're net is 0 when doing their taxes yearly? The former has been certainly implied, I asked about it, I was referred back to the article, I pointed out the article does not say the former, and so on, ad nauseum.

    A balance of 0, or a refund, is not the same as the former.
    Furthermore, someone suggested, a balance of 0 or a refund means you've wound up paying no federal tax for that year? Really? IIRC, my tax forms say "This is the amount you overpaid" (i.e., the refund you are owed). No, this does not mean if I have a balance of 0 or if I get a refund that I've paid no taxes. It means I paid and paid more than needed. It strikes me as being like a time-deferred instance of handing a $20 bill to a cashier for an item that rings up as $12.99 and getting the change. [That's $7.01 for the arithmetic impaired. ;)]

    I also raised the issue of what they get to do with that money in the year before the refund. I doubt our money is getting spent as soon as it is withheld from our paychecks. So, where is it? What is it doing? Is it earning interest? Who gets that interest? (Given the discussion of the EIC, earned interest credit, apparently the answer to the second to the last question is yes. So, since as far as I remember, I have never been able to claim the EIC, if the money withheld from my paychecks also earned interest-and why should what was withheld from my paychecks be any different from the money withheld from the paychecks of people who did get the EIC-then it must be that the government got that interest.

    Hence, I must conclude that except for the 1 or 2 years I got to claim as "exempt" in my late teens, even though I have only owed once, and all other years received a refund, yes, I did really pay income taxes and the government got to receive interest while they withheld my money.

    Last, lol, we must not be dealing with a Normal distribution here. Since 47% is less than 50%, the distribution is skewed left. Thus, the majority (anything greater than exactly 50%) is not made up of "freeloaders" as the thread originator (is this what TA means by OP?) indicated.
    5044) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1061273)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here are the next two paragraphs:

    Some in that group will even get additional money from the government because they qualify for refundable tax breaks.

    (Advance) Earned Income Tax Credit.

    The ranks of those whose major federal tax burdens net out at zero -- or less -- is on the rise. The center's original 2009 estimate was 38%. That was before enactment in February of the $787 billion economic recovery package, which included a host of new or expanded tax breaks.


    I still see things about refunds, and net (balance after 4/15), etc. ... .

    Net is the line on the form, "THIS IS YOUR TOTAL TAX"
    Net is not the line "AMOUNT YOU OVERPAID" or "AMOUNT REFUNDED TO YOU"

    Go read a dang tax form!


    I have to every year. I'm not Willie Nelson. :)
    5045) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061267)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Skildude, Soft^spirit,

    From what you both just said, it's obvious neither one of you read my post.

    Let me put it in a one-liner: It's not *all* the insurance companies' fault


    The article I mentioned to Bobby was "Reckless Medicine" from the November 2010 issue of Discover Magazine. It considers different angles. It is, however, worth also looking at the 3 letters they published as responses in the following issue.
    5046) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061263)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A british woman came in the other day and said a tv stamp is around 300 pounds now. Perhaps one of our British friends can let us know more.


    There's always google, it's £145.50 per year.

    what is this google you speak of


    Are we all Google victims?
    Is this the New Religion?
    Are we all trained/hypnotised to only swallow Google search results?
    I know I'm in a very small minority that does not do all his web searching via Google, but I'm not hounded and presumed guilty in the disbelief that there is life without Google...
    Is Google soon to be worshipped as a 'right'?
    "Forced"?...
    Perhaps we all should go back to church...
    5047) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061255)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The homeless here *think* they have it bad. Here, there are places the homeless can find a meal and a cot.


    Though movies should not be a source of information, I caught a bit of "The Pursuit of Happyness" being broadcast on TV. It showed people being turned away from homeless shelters.
    I have a friend from my undergraduate days who apparently spent time homeless and unemployed in recent years. (He didn't think I'd figure it out, but I could read between the lines of his posts.) Perhaps I should ask him about what he may have seen in that respect.

    Look a little more closely at the carpenter's union and what they've done since 1980. Unions were a good thing there for a while back in the early part of the 20th century, but now they've become a burden. Heck, his union is probably the reason his retirement pension was raided and part of the reason why his pay is so low.


    Hmmm. Government (including under Republicans/conservatives) get too big. Unions get too big. Anything else that gets too big? Corporations, maybe?

    But there's just no way to force everybody to produce the same amount. Our founders knew this. Our founders knew the best thing for society was to allow the individual the freedom to go out and produce as much as he/she wanted and to reap the rewards of his/her effort. As a whole, we'd produce more as a society, and the best/fairest market value of goods would be achieved. Some would have more, some would have less--based on the amount of effort.


    I don't think the idea is to produce the same amount. First of all, produce!
    BTW, what does Brett Favre produce?
    5048) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061249)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, when people get tired of the quips, they quit trying. And on many occasions, I've seen the person spewing out the little one-liners indicate they've won by following up with snide remarks. And the non-responses I've personally received indicate to me the person who disagrees with me can't support what they're saying. I've asked several direct questions that would not have taken a lot of effort to answer. And they go unanswered. I don't ask people to write a research paper for me in these forums. But I've been asked to write research papers back (such as your request for me to teach you about dishonest debate tactics and their uses in these threads). When people don't respond and I see them in other threads, I consider that running from me.

    Strangely, I think it is Keith with the most one liners, snide remarks (and those snide remarks used to claim he has won).
    5049) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061220)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about looking at some real numbers instead of some un-dated, un-sourced JPEG picture?

    This is a reasonable request/point. When someone makes a good point, it is easier to dismiss when it is not stated well or lacking in support.

    To tax for the sake of raising revenue, and *then* deciding how to spend it is why this nation is crumbling under the weight of pensions, earmarks, corruption and debt.

    I am proud to say that my father us 70.5 and still working (and no, not as a Wal Mart greeter) and not drawing on that pension.
    5050) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061213)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see a couple of canadian flagged responses. Why do you care about U.S. politics?

    Guy, it's been a while since you posted this, and you've posted a lot elsewhere, but this part of this post really surprises me.
    First, the title of this area of the fora does not say "U.S. Politics," it simply says "Politics." (I'm pretty sure that others have already indicated that, while BOINC and S@H were created in the U.S., crunchers are spread out around the world and these and any BOINC fora are generally open to any cruncher. So, I will not expound upon that further.)
    Second, why should I care about the politics/events in, say, Afghanistan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia? (Yes, a question with a question: the Socratic - not sarcastic - method.) Why should I care about Canadian or UK politics? (I'll answer this one, and leave the other for you. If I wanted to either look for reasons to decry universal health care or support its implementation in the USA, in either case, I would like to other countries that have it and point out either its failure or its successes or even explain why, if it is successful, it could not be applied the same way here.)
    5051) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061203)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have a sickness......


    Yeah, pity the homeless guy.
    Who probably had no mental problem other than being gutless and unwilling to get up offa his sorry a** and account for his life.


    I've tried to steer clear of this ... .
    Have you had to spend any time around some of those suffering from a similar affliction?
    Back in the 70s, they called it "manic depression" (a term you have recently posted somewhere). Now it's called by the cotton candy "bipolar" and people come out of the woodwork saying that's what they are like it's a badge of honor or entitles them to something.
    But, unfortunately, there are indeed people truly suffering and while you've been able to keep yourself afloat and work or look for work, there are truly people that have been crushed so much by the illness ... are so far gone ... they can barely function at work, in society ... etc ... .
    5052) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061198)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President of the United States.

    Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her, "If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people!"

    Her parents beamed.

    "Wow...what a worthy goal," I told her. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

    I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

    Her parents still aren't speaking to me.


    So, you instilled in the young lady an aversion towards work, even as simple a task as mowing a lawn? I mean, unless you own several acres and have incredibly high grass ... . :P
    5053) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1061196)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cuz it's land that belongs to the Jews. Remember, Judiasm is several thousand years old. Islam started in what? Around 680AD?

    More like 630 AD, but there's no use in quibbling over half a century, when both religions have been in existence for more than a millenia.
    And besides the comparison another made in this thread, what is the justification for calling it the Jews' land? We could say before that that it belonged to the Canaanites, right? (Were the Hebrew people part of the Canaanites before their time in Egypt?)
    If you wish to say the justification comes from what we're told in The Torah and The Bible, you may do so, but you should make this clear.
    Otherwise, don't be surprised if others believe it is because they had the military might/backing to take it at various points in time. (They took it, then were driven out, and returned yet again, multiple times in history.)
    5054) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1061194)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cuz it's land that belongs to the Jews. Remember, Judiasm is several thousand years old. Islam started in what? Around 680AD?

    Well, if there was any even least sense in that statement, then the American mainland, including the North and South American continents plus anything in between, belongs to the Native Americans.

    Regards

    PK
    Finland


    Kudos.
    5055) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1061191)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    President Carter gets the short end of the stick for his Presidency, though he brought the first peace to the middle east ever.

    He did?! Funny I don't see peace there. If you meant to say he got a temporary truce, I'd agree with you.

    True peace can't come there until the religions involved abandon the corruption of bloodline thinking that pervades them. That can not be imposed from the outside.


    Yes, I do believe it'd be better to say "temporary truce" as opposed to lasting "peace." Though someone did point out those countries that have not, directly or indirectly by supporting others, shown aggression to Israel in decades.
    As for your second paragraph, how much of it is really about religion when that land was fought over for centuries before Islam even existed?!?
    5056) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1061189)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unfortunately one of the founders of the "We Won't Fly" website has gone on to make statements that not only TSA needs stepped back, but that the government
    "Must be abolished".

    I happen to love my country and feel a duty to help correct it when it strays. Not destroy it.

    Passive resistance. If enough people stop flying, the airlines will support reason. Court challenges are in order. But the clowns at We Won't Fly can not be counted on for rational action.

    General advice: never follow anyone crazier than yourself.


    Unfortunately, that happens often enough: some people with a good idea get their idea co-opted by a smaller group with ideas that are more fringe.
    P.S.-I was so tempted to copy and paste some of your quips, like the bit about Depends and anomalies. :)
    5057) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1061187)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Though pawning that tv just might have gotten her the money to pay for her energy needs.

    Perhaps.
    5058) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1061186)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe having the TV and game console is her way to keep er kids home and out of trouble (Bad crowds, drugs, etc).

    Why is everyone here assuming the TV is paid for? Jose's house of super screens may have had one of those take it home and don't pay for two year deals.


    I don't care if the TV is paid for or not....that wasn't my point at all.

    Blurf, you are someone, not everyone!

    Just picked your post as a clear example of why everyone's rush to judgement thinking was wrong.


    I find it odd that you call most or all posts "a rush to judgment," when clearly a wide variety of posts suggested alternative possibilities, attempting to guess and enter into what the woman's situation might be. Indeed, it is quite the opposite of rushing to judgment, and Blurf's post was a stellar and succinct example of not rushing to judgment.
    5059) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1061184)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we all TV victims?
    Is this the New Religion?
    Are we all trained/hypnotised to only swallow The Soundbite?
    I know I'm in a very small minority that do not have a TV, and I'm hounded and presumed guilty in the disbelief that there is life without TV... (Yes, I've had the multiple Visits...)
    Is TV soon to be worshipped as a 'right'?
    "Forced"?...
    Perhaps we all should go back to church...


    I still maintain that this was a non-sequitur.
    Martin, based on your other threads, you are very very welll informed about world events. Add to that the fact that, in order to read and post in these fora, you obviously have a computer. (I think that's a non sequitur, too, but I'm building on it.)
    Now, where are people to get information about local, national and world events?
    One could read a newspaper. How much are newspaper subscriptions, per year, these days? Let's say each daily paper is 50 cents and we'll pretend the Sunday paper is the same price. Then For the year, that'd be $182.00. As I said, I was able to purchase an HDTV for less than that.
    One could listen to radio. I suppose that's the cheapest approach to getting information, let alone entertainment.
    Even though netbooks and notebooks are extremely low in price, I'd hazard a guess that a decent one is still going to cost more than a good but low end HDTV. (My current notebook cost $350.)
    Many many possibilities have been presented for how it is the woman came to possess the HDTV, why she may choose to continue to possess it and so on. Or, there indeed the possibility that it is some sort of "stunt."
    Martin, it is your choice that you do not own a TV and that you (clearly) get your (large amounts of) information from your computer and internet connection. I also wonder if you get any entertainment from it? Watch any new clips or music videos online?
    However, if this woman does not already own a computer, it seems unlikely that she's going to be able to go get one right now. Thus, if it is her choice, added to by current constraints, to own a TV as her method of obtaining info and entertainment, it is what it is. And, given what it is, then, yes,she and most of the rest of us are stuck with two options: buy an HDTV or get a converter box. Those of us in the USA were told repeatedly if we did not, soon we would find most of our channels (including news and weather channels) showing up as blank ... because they would be broadcasting at different frequencies, to free up the previously used frequencies for things like emergency medical services and so on.
    5060) Message boards : Politics : Non-Specific Discussion on Board Moderation (Message 1061174)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is how I handle things.
    When I post as a regular poster that's what I am.
    When I moderate I show NO favorites, I moderate.
    The second is the Hard part...That is why we have several Moderators working together to help each other keep things in perspective.

    Well, sometime MY perspective it hard to keep in view too, eh?


    I do not think that is the moderators responsibility.

    Their job is to keep the Regents of the University of California's perspective in view.


    And how, exactly, are they, as volunteers rather than employees, made aware of this and then monitored to make sure they are indeed doing this? Not to say that this currently a matter of concern ... .
    5061) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1061164)
    Posted 30 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My premise is, the bigger government gets, the more they try to do, the less they acutally do.

    Could this premise apply to any other large organizations? Seriously. Could it?
    5062) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060678)
    Posted 29 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In fact, there are no links to Wiki in this thread, from me or anyone else.


    Good lord. It's a full time job correcting errors here.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=62490&nowrap=true#1060103

    "neocons defined"


    Good Lord (if you're going to refer to the Lord, you might as well capitalize it)!
    I did a search in this page for "wiki." Note that skildude didn't use
    [url]name of url[/url],
    he used
    [url=name of url]title[/url].
    Pardon me that I didn't view source and then search, lol!.
    5063) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060421)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    -Educator credit if you're a teacher

    Unfortunately, this either does not apply to all that teach in the US (consider the different levels of education one can teach at) or even if it does, there are conditions to meet. One way or another, I have not been able to claim this credit.

    Does this clear anything up?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I knew credits were out there, and virtually all of them are ones I cannot apply for, except sometimes I have been able to use the one on student loans.
    So, you've provided details I did not necessarily know, but conceptually it did not answer anything for me.

    To reiterate, my main question right now is: either we've got 47% of the population with no federal income tax being withheld, period, or we've got 47% of the population that have, around 4/15, either a net balance of 0 or a refund.
    5064) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060419)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Demand better wages. Demand better working conditions and demand healthcare and let the people who live of your hard work give some of it back.


    This is the 'entitlement mentality'. QED


    No, I do not think so.
    This may be a part of it.
    But more of it, or all of it is, "give me that without me even having to work for it."


    Pardon the obscure web link, but ... .

    Beware the Entitlement Mentality.

    Are you erroneously thinking that the world owes you something? Are you looking to others to do something for you rather than focusing on what you can do for yourself?


    By first working, and then working to obtain the things Es mentioned, I would, offhand, consider this as doing something for one's self. To twist an earlier quote, from this thread or another, it'd be like someone saying "Quit giving me these fish" (or "Quit grabbing the pole when a fish starts to bite") and adding "Just teach me to fish, will ya?!?"
    5065) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060416)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Demand better wages. Demand better working conditions and demand healthcare and let the people who live of your hard work give some of it back.


    This is the 'entitlement mentality'. QED


    No, I do not think so.
    This may be a part of it.
    But more of it, or all of it is, "give me that without me even having to work for it."
    5066) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060415)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It has nothing to do with 'deadbeats' or any such thing. It is just the way that the tax system is designed.

    That is, however, essentially how this thread was opened. Replace "deadbeats" with "freeloaders."
    5067) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060412)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The exchanges here seem so convoluted to me, I'm still not sure what you guys are trying to get at. The best I can figure to this point is that you're aurguing about the wording of the article.

    -roughly 47% of households, or 71 million will not owe any federal income tax....

    Seems pretty clear to me. But I see vague references to whether or not they actually don't pay anything, actually have the correct amount withheld, or actually have too much withheld.


    Yes, Guy, this is precisely what I am asking about.
    Do they pay no federal income tax, deducted out of their paychecks and then get the net balance of 0 (or even a refund) around 4/15, or is it a matter of they do not even have anything deducted from their paychecks?
    Gary tells me it is the latter. I say that is not at all clear from the article.
    I did bring up this thread to a friend who helps me with my grading. He did tell me he makes so little that he has had very very little withheld over this entire year. But it is not nothing. And while this pushes me closer to being able to believe Gary, I still do not see this made clear in the article.
    Furthermore, you refer to personal experience. So, let's talk personal experience. Why did I have federal income tax removed from my paychecks as a teen and early adult when I was only working part time and earning less than a total of $10000 a year? Sounds to me like you (the general sense you) are telling me if I was working those jobs now, I would not have the federal income tax withheld ... ?
    5068) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060410)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another item that might help would be some strict term limits for all elected / appointed federal officials. One term in one office, then that is it. That would help the officials remain in touch with the citizens, and would also help to prevent them being 'owned' by corporate / special interests.

    This, at the very least, I strongly agree with. Lest someone bemoan the fact that was just "one line," note:
    1) It is agreement.
    2) Majorkong explained it well. Thus, I do not need to expound upon it.
    5069) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1060354)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If this is anything to go by, it seems that doctors make decisions they have less faith in if a patient requests the drugs to prescribe, rather than one based on their own assessment. Also, it's been estimated that big pharma spends about twice as much on advertising as it does on research and development. So two outcomes of their advertising could be increased costs for the drugs (due to advertising spend) and unnecessary prescriptions (due to doctors acquiescing to patient demand).

    Of course any attempt to stop big pharma advertising is an unnecessary restriction on the free market ...


    There is a recent article in Discover magazine providing two or more points of view on big pharma, doctors, and patients. If I can track it down, I'll link it. Sound good?
    5070) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060353)
    Posted 28 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Suggest you actually read what you posted.
    The 47% figure is income tax. That's right, no income tax taken out of the pay check.
    There is a 24% figure who also don't pay social security or medicare, but those are not taxes, they are a mandatory pension plan and a mandatory medical plan.

    From the opening post, first lines:
    In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center

    This does not say that 47% will not have it deducted from a single paycheck. It says, or strongly implies, that on April 15, they did not owe or received a refund.
    If this is incorrect, rather than suggesting that I did not read, you would do better to quote some other line to point out my error, if it exists.

    Try reading the next two paragraphs!


    Here are the next two paragraphs:

    Some in that group will even get additional money from the government because they qualify for refundable tax breaks.

    The ranks of those whose major federal tax burdens net out at zero -- or less -- is on the rise. The center's original 2009 estimate was 38%. That was before enactment in February of the $787 billion economic recovery package, which included a host of new or expanded tax breaks.


    I still see things about refunds, and net (balance after 4/15), etc. ... .
    I still do not see anything directly or indirectly stating that there are people that do not even have any federal income tax deducted from paycheck to paycheck.

    And to Guy Navarro: ok, that was atwo line response.
    Why do, at least some, people give you or others short responses?
    Consider: I'm on vacation, and besides wanting an immense amount of rest, I have also set myself two projects to work on over the break: one mathematical and another musical.
    Furthermore, if I am not knowledgeable about a topic, or unsure, I tend not to post or ask a question. If I do know quite a bit about something, I have certainly expounded on it a great deal.
    My last reason can probably not be explained in a post, but I assure you, it has nothing to do with fear that my post would be moderated just because you and I have some differences in beliefs.
    Does this satisfy you at all?
    5071) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060244)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Suggest you actually read what you posted.
    The 47% figure is income tax. That's right, no income tax taken out of the pay check.
    There is a 24% figure who also don't pay social security or medicare, but those are not taxes, they are a mandatory pension plan and a mandatory medical plan.

    From the opening post, first lines:
    In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center

    This does not say that 47% will not have it deducted from a single paycheck. It says, or strongly implies, that on April 15, they did not owe or received a refund.
    If this is incorrect, rather than suggesting that I did not read, you would do better to quote some other line to point out my error, if it exists.
    5072) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1060240)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you were a child were prescription drugs advertised on TV? You see the UK and many other nations have direct government involvement in health care, yet these nations do not have costs sky rocketing in quite the same way as the US. The US is one of 2 nations in the world that permits the advertising of prescription drugs. Anybody care to hazard a guess at the result of such advertising?

    One line response: I do know that those commercials are cramked up in volume in comparison to most other commercials.
    5073) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060208)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew we had some freeloaders, but Jesus!
    ...
    [url]http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm[/url


    CNN's just a bunch of liberals, anyway, Keith, so don't let their fear-mongering get to you. Don't let them twist things for you, either. What the liberals aren't telling you is that just because no additional federal income tax is owed or even if a refund is received:
    1) federal income tax has still been paid, with each and every pay check and
    2) that's money the payers can't put in the bank or otherwise invest and earn interest on, but big bad government can (earn interest on it).
    5074) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060203)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In fact, there are no links to Wiki in this thread, from me or anyone else.
    5075) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060116)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, when factual information is to the contrary and people continue to backpeddle and rationalize, I cut them off.

    I don't go for revisionist history. History is history. Don't like it, read the book I cited.

    And frankly, I couldn't care less what wikipedia says. Anyone can write into it. I'll take a well researched published work over it anyday.

    Don't tell me Neocons have always been Republicans. It's BS, plain and simple


    I presented you a video link to a Ron Paul speech, not a Wiki link. ;)
    5076) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060110)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Look, the statement was made:

    "Wrong again but who is counting at this point. Neo CONs as they are called have always been republicans. Neocons in a sense means a "new conservative movement" not people that switched aisles."


    That's BS. The person that made it doesn't know what they're talking about.

    PERIOD. End of discussion.


    What an excellent method of debate!
    5077) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060108)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    don't get me started on that crap trap

    I believe it counters the earlier claim that the neocons are hawkish dems?
    And, if so, why would it come from a libertarian and father to a current big star of the "tea" party?
    5078) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060105)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aewpvcxAwTk
    5079) Message boards : Politics : 47% of households will pay NO federal Income tax ! (Message 1060096)
    Posted 27 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is still spelled with a K in Germany Soft.


    Keith is not in germany. California is not in germany. The inference is towards socialist/communist. It was not lost on me. Just sad to see it.


    Wirklich? Wo bin ich? Es ist nicht Deutschland? Ist die netz durch die ganzen welt?

    Kalifornien is nicht Kommunist. Aber die regierung von Kalifornien ist.

    Ein schoenen tag noch.

    Uhh.....English speaking forum.......

    And besides......most of this discussion is based in the USA.

    And I am German by birth, mind you. From 2nd gen German parents born here.


    A rough translation, with no online translator, would be:
    "Really? Where am I? It is not Germany? Is the ... something ... whole world?
    California is not Communist. But it's rulers are.
    A nice day ... something."
    5080) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1060008)
    Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Might I remind you that democrats still have a controlling interest in the senate, as well as the presidency. Republicans have a slight majority of congress. This hardly leaves them in charge. And more moderate republicans are faring better than the extreme right. (read tea party/libertarian leaning/etc).

    And let me assure you dear, I am not your pal.

    Tea Party != Libertarian. Please pay attention.


    "!=" ?
    Unless there's a BB code for the not equal sign, a better choice would be "<>".

    ≠
    5081) Message boards : Politics : Another liberal idea (Message 1060006)
    Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Might I remind you that democrats still have a controlling interest in the senate, as well as the presidency. Republicans have a slight majority of congress. This hardly leaves them in charge. And more moderate republicans are faring better than the extreme right. (read tea party/libertarian leaning/etc).

    And let me assure you dear, I am not your pal.

    Tea Party != Libertarian. Please pay attention.


    "!=" ?
    Unless there's a BB code for the not equal sign, a better choice would be "<>".
    5082) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1059737)
    Posted 26 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there some sort of Libertarian Convention coming up?
    All the corporatist/wealthy elite supporters seem to be extra vocal recently.
    Please keep the Anne Rand quotes to a minimum. LOL

    I do believe it is spelled Ayn Rand.
    5083) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1059477)
    Posted 24 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Republicans choose life then support the death penalty.
    Republicans, the party of contradiction where Christ is their saviour but if you end up poor it's due to some personal flaw in your own character and are unworthy of help.

    Christ, as represented in the bible, was a socialist.
    He didn't say "Go forth and amass great wealth."

    Unfortunately, The Bible itself has such contradictions. Remember "Be fruitful and multiply"? This and probably other verses, as opposed to being stewards of the Earth, can, and have been, taken as license for Manifest Destiny ... domination of the Earth.
    5084) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1059474)
    Posted 24 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unless your super rich then voting for the Republicans is like turkey's voting for Christmas.

    I suspect you mean a turkey voting for Thanksgiving? :)
    5085) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1059295)
    Posted 24 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe having the TV and game console is her way to keep er kids home and out of trouble (Bad crowds, drugs, etc).

    Why is everyone here assuming the TV is paid for? Jose's house of super screens may have had one of those take it home and don't pay for two year deals.


    I don't care if the TV is paid for or not....that wasn't my point at all.

    Blurf, you are someone, not everyone!

    Just picked your post as a clear example of why everyone's rush to judgement thinking was wrong.


    It is far from a clear example of what you suggest, and your point about rushing to judgment is precisely the point a handful of us are trying to make.
    Edit-including, directly or indirectly, Blurf.
    5086) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1059245)
    Posted 24 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe having the TV and game console is her way to keep er kids home and out of trouble (Bad crowds, drugs, etc).

    Why is everyone here assuming the TV is paid for? Jose's house of super screens may have had one of those take it home and don't pay for two year deals.

    Another interesting point (thought I pretty sure nothing in Blurf's post indicated, one way or the other, whether the TTV is paid for).
    Keith returns to his thread with an interesting response to Es. Worry not, Keith, Es could care less about "The Cross."
    5087) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1059153)
    Posted 23 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe having the TV and game console is her way to keep er kids home and out of trouble (Bad crowds, drugs, etc).

    Good point, Blurf. I'd say that's the spirit of the responses (save a few) ... . Someone asks "what's wrong with this picture?" I say "What may be wrong with this picture?" And then I try to consider what some of the other possibilities may be. I like that you've done the same thing, Blurf.
    5088) Message boards : Politics : $50.00 lesson (Message 1058995)
    Posted 23 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    II said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

    Has nothing to do with the party. Keep thinking that & say hello to more gridlock.
    5089) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1058992)
    Posted 23 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So...

    Martin, do read the thread from beginning to end. Your comments are quite out of context. Or would "non-sequitur" be more appropriate?
    5090) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1058869)
    Posted 22 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, don't forget, we've basically been forced to either get hi def TVs or get the converter boxes.
    5091) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1058183)
    Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess we settled this to the thread creator's satisfaction? :)
    5092) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1058181)
    Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    TSA's new slogan: "We now handle more packages than UPS."

    Ouch!
    5093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 4 (Message 1058000)
    Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Rose) Princesses

    snobbish
    5094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 4 (Message 1057875)
    Posted 19 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sharp

    witty
    5095) Message boards : Politics : What's wrong with this picture? (Message 1057620)
    Posted 18 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Says she was unemployed for a year, she must have bought the TV before then.

    I doubt she'd get what it is worth if she tried to sell it, and then she'd be cold and unable to watch TV.

    Of course it's poor people's duty to be miserable.


    Not to mention that these types of TVs have gone down tremendously in price since the early 2000s. Mine is smaller but I bought it 1 year ago for $150.

    More importantly, some people have already given such TVs away to organizations such as Goodwill, then others can buy them from those organizations for prices starting at $25.
    5096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1056744)
    Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bracket

    grouping
    5097) Message boards : Politics : Wiki Leaks and free speech (Message 1056521)
    Posted 16 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Secrets are to protect the law breakers not the the good people that count good people don't need laws they do what is right without the laws

    Yeah, r-i-i-i-ght. You've never had a police officer or person of authority question you even though you hadn't been doing anything wrong?
    Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RV0EDrsa38
    5098) Message boards : Politics : Wiki Leaks and free speech (Message 1056383)
    Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ]there are limits to the US freedom of speech. Yelling FIRE in a packed theater comes to mind. Inciting a riot is another. Hate speech is particularly limited in that, hate speech leading to harm to others is clearly not. For example anyone that actively eggs on a crowd to attack a person or group can be held responsible for the act

    Now, now, Skil, let's not remind people of these little caveats. It would really ruin the argument they're trying to make, that our USA brand of freedom of speech is better than anyone else's.
    5099) Message boards : Politics : NEZ (Message 1056380)
    Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nez on YouTube!

    Funny, Sarge.

    One more like this and you'll be a Corporal!

    Lieutenant? Sweet!
    Seriously, though ... :

    1) Eric wouldn't need to comment on it. It is made clear when downloading BOINC that you must be own or be authorized to use the computer(s) it is installed on. I'm willing to bet it also indemnifies (is that the right word) UC Berkeley from taking any responsibility.
    2) The link someone posted for us indicates the school district claims it will cost $1 million to fix the problem, including removal of the program (BOINC). B.S., I say. All it takes is removing BOINC. That's it. No way will it take that much time and effort to remove it thus costing $1 million.
    5100) Message boards : Politics : NEZ (Message 1056207)
    Posted 15 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nez on YouTube!
    5101) Message boards : Politics : Wiki Leaks and free speech (Message 1056035)
    Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well Sarge, I read quotes like this one and I guess I just take a leap of faith that the author is supportive of Wilson...

    I have been living in a socialist like country all my life and while it hasn't treated me all that bad, I fear very much what we are becoming because it could become very evil. To understand what we are dealing with you should read Woodrow wilson and the Roots of Modern Liberalism. This book will put you in the head of of the Progressive movement and you will find by wilson's own words that the end goal is form of government very much like what Russia had before 1990.

    PS:
    If you are going to quote me, that's fine but please don't proceed to misquote me in your own text under it.


    Iona will have to pardon me for seeing the "na" and thinking it was Dena that posted. An extreme rarity for me.
    And where have I misrepresented what you said? I am saying you've misrepresented what Dena's said.
    5102) Message boards : Politics : Wiki Leaks and free speech (Message 1055840)
    Posted 14 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dena loves to speak of Woodrow Wilson as a great hero of the American people but neglects to look any deeper into his actions than her right wing asshat Guru permits.

    Wow, Robert.
    I hope you read closely enough to realize that I disagree with much of what Dena says here.
    But you just put your foot in it ... big time ... saying Dena raises Wilson to the level of the greatest American president.
    As I've long suspected, you do not read certain things very closely.
    If you did, you'd know you've just claimed the exact opposite of what Dena says.
    Strangely, seeing a post from Dena for the first time in a while, in this very thread, and not reading her responding to your error is shocking.
    Then again, maybe she steers around reading much of what you have to say, Robert. And I think it's more than just conservatives steering around you, Robert. ;)
    5103) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054870)
    Posted 11 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    True, though the ambiguity of the English language doesn't help matters either. I believe Darwin was using the term in it's sense of suited (fit for purpose if you will), which I think Sarge was referencing too when speaking of habitats.

    Environment ... habitat, yes. Actually, the word I should've remembered is "niche," as Es did. (Edited: typed "nice" at first, instead of "niche," lol!)
    5104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1054730)
    Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Organ

    transplant
    5105) Message boards : Politics : Your Taxes AT Risk... Tricky Title (Message 1054675)
    Posted 10 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What I usually see in political debate is intellectually dishonest tactics used to win the debate at any cost, despite the content of the debate. At first, I didn't make assumptions. But this gave the master-debaters an advantage. I would usually burn out supporting my side of the aurgument because of little assumption based one-liner come-backs and my almost always inevitable conclusion of an incorrigable opponent who refused to accept facts and quite possibly was doing it for no other reason than to just piss me off. In the mean time, I am watching the world crumble around me.


    With less than 20 posts, some very short, I find it hard to believe you'd be burned out already.
    Intellectual dishonesty? What I see is 4 or 5 people who are as deeply entrenched in their beliefs as you appear to be, some agreeing with you and others not.

    "Independent" to me, is just another word that represents someone who votes based on the last sign he sees before entering the voting booth. Sorry, this is just what I see.


    Then you've let the media impose their view of independents on you.
    A true independent is one that pays attention as much as they can, is not bound by party loyalty, and votes for the one they believe can do the best job in the current setting.
    5106) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054182)
    Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, individuals do not evolve, evolution takes place between generations.

    So if I discover how to use and control fire, I didn't evolve. It is only when I teach my children the discovery that the evolving happens?

    It isn't all about random or targeted changes in DNA.

    Since when is the obtainment of knowledge, or the passing on of it, an example of evolution?
    Memory ... learning ... it is the development of the capability for these things that is evolution.
    5107) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054179)
    Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Applying the associative law to Darwin you do get what you said.

    Let + stand in for any binary operation. The associative law states a + (b + c) = (a + b) + c.

    However his statement was the survival of the fit. That means individually. Remember he was talking about an individual evolving to be better that others.

    Wrong. Best fit in a particular environment, not a progressive overall betterment.

    Wrong, no best about it. Statement was not survival of the fittest. It was survival of the fit. Huge difference.

    Allow me to bold the word I used.
    And if I change the word "best" to a "good fit" or "a very good fit," it does not change my meaning nor whether you should debate my comment.
    You may scroll back up to double check that I did not change it. ("We have never been at war with Eurasia.")
    When choosing to debate, you should be sure that you are not debating things not different from what you said.

    You yourself raised the "better"/"best" issue:

    Remember he was talking about an individual evolving to be better that others.


    My comment correctly drew attention to your error, that the environment matters.
    The moths or butterflies or whatever they were that evolved to be black in a matter of months, during the mid-1800s in industrializing England (an example of punctuated changes, I believe?) ... once pollution levels were reduced, and their cover returned to normal colors, did the creatures maintain the mutation, or evolve again, returning to previous coloration?
    5108) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054150)
    Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Applying the associative law to Darwin you do get what you said.

    Let + stand in for any binary operation. The associative law states a + (b + c) = (a + b) + c.

    However his statement was the survival of the fit. That means individually. Remember he was talking about an individual evolving to be better that others.

    Wrong. Best fit in a particular environment, not a progressive overall betterment.
    5109) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054147)
    Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Truth be told Mussolini, Hitler and Franco were not the political descendants of Marx or any other socialist thinkers.

    It's the typical confuse a fascist dictator with a communist one.
    5110) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054146)
    Posted 9 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I suppose your premise is that because capitalists exist, war exists. Is this correct? Only capitalists cause war, right?

    As straw man arguments go, this is one of the most ridiculous ones I have ever seen. One need simply consider capitalism arose in the, what, 1700s, while war has been with humanity since we've had organized into societies. Are you going to attempt to put something in someone's mouth ... that they claim the Trojan's were capitalists? [That's Trojans of the famous horse story, The Iliad and The Odyssey and so on ... not the prophylactic company. ;)]
    5111) Message boards : Politics : A New World Order (Message 1054073)
    Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL, gotta love the dedication to love of unfettered capitalism, don't you know that died in the 19th century? It killed (quite literally) too many people.

    You do realize that capitalism and Darwin's law are the exact same thing don't you?

    To change a natural law you will have to apply a lot of force. Likely kill exactly as many as if you had done nothing. The difference will be in who is dead and the entropy -- for lack of a better word -- to survive of the civilization at the end of the experiment.



    What? Let's compare. How many people did capitalism kill in the 19th century? I suppose your premise is that because capitalists exist, war exists. Is this correct? Only capitalists cause war, right?

    http://www.taphilo.com/history/war-deaths.shtml

    Here are some round numbers of how many people marxist/socialist/communist dictators killed in the 20th century.

    http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

    I could probably make the case that the 19th century was the best 100 years of personal freedom, inovation, invention, and happiness (across the plains of the U.S., at least...)

    Change natural law? Yes, true, in order to defy the law of gravity, you have to apply an equal and apposite force. Who do you think will win in the long run?


    Wait? What? You read so fast you didn't even realize you weren't responding to one person but two, and so contradicted both yourself and someone who, up until your post here, seemed to be in your philosophical zone? Please do slow down, read carefully. Think before you post. :)
    5112) Message boards : Politics : Your Taxes AT Risk... Tricky Title (Message 1054071)
    Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're not thinking long-term, are you? Typical of liberals. ("It's MY money and I want it NOW!") He can't tell us the real reason he signed uncontrolled spending into law. Hint: Look at the timing of elections.

    You're not reading long-term, are you.
    One thing I'll give (most) liberals is this: they don't assume I'm one of them or the opposing party.
    LEARN what an independent is, and you'll need to pull your foot out of your own mouth less often.
    [And if you read this post first, please see in the "New World Order" thread where I'm about to point out where you really stuck your foot in it! :)]
    5113) Message boards : Politics : Your Taxes AT Risk... Tricky Title (Message 1053958)
    Posted 8 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    True, the democrats have a spending problem.

    If we allowed the big corporations to fail, they'd have an incentive to quit doing stupid things. And if investors got a dose of reality and learned there is risk in investment, there'd be incentive to look a little more closely before investing.

    Ah, I see another person needs reminding that it was G.W. Bush that started the bailouts. "One recession, who's spending now?"


    Right... right... G.W. Bush and a majority of democrats in congress... It's all Bush's fault... right...


    Hmmm. And does he say he regrets passing (not vetoing) in his new book and recent interviews?
    5114) Message boards : Politics : Your Taxes AT Risk... Tricky Title (Message 1053400)
    Posted 6 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    True, the democrats have a spending problem.

    If we allowed the big corporations to fail, they'd have an incentive to quit doing stupid things. And if investors got a dose of reality and learned there is risk in investment, there'd be incentive to look a little more closely before investing.

    Ah, I see another person needs reminding that it was G.W. Bush that started the bailouts. "One recession, who's spending now?"
    5115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1052618)
    Posted 3 Dec 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's Dan!
    It is!
    It's Sarge!
    OMG! It is!
    It was! :)
    5116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1052011)
    Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least you avoided McDonald's. That reconstituted artificial egg is worse than the War time powdered egg.

    Good morning on a lovely sunny, cloudless and, ATM, windless day. Outside temperatures are currently -4C, and they hit -9C last night. No new snow dusting though, just sheet ice.


    First snow was last night.
    5117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1052010)
    Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG!!!

    Amongst our mail today was a magazine called "Embellish". I thought i must have subscribed to it because I had thought about doing so a few months ago - I figured I'd forgotten.

    As I was flicking through the mag, towards the back, I saw that a garment I had re-purposed was featured in their 'chop-shop' column, winning me a year subscription - WOW! I emailed photos of the garment to them months ago, and promptly forgot all about it.

    I got such a surprise :-)

    Congratulations, Magenta!...You deserve the attention for your excellent work!

    It's Dan!


    It is!
    5118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1052009)
    Posted 30 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    buds

    polyp
    5119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1051758)
    Posted 29 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Horn

    ensemble
    5120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1051652)
    Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darwin

    reward
    5121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Recognise anyone? (Message 1051590)
    Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People who use the word 'offline' when referring to things not computer related.

    I recently tried to rent studio space for an upcoming photo-shoot and was told that the space was 'offline' until the new year.

    Good, I don't need internet access for the shoot.


    First Known Use of OFF-LINE
    1950
    5122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Original SETI Cafe 082410 (Message 1051581)
    Posted 28 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WAKE UP!

    IT'S TIME TO GET UP!

    It's nearly lunch time and we're getting ready to go and check out the sale at Old Navy. They've got some good deals on kids clothes.


    In the beginning the Universe was created. The creation of Old Navy (as well as The Gap and Abercrombie & Finch-meister) are relatively recent events and widely regarded as bad moves. Then families went shopping there in search of deals on kids' clothing and this turned out to be an even worse move.
    Best to go for lunch at that restaurant at the end. :)
    5123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1051208)
    Posted 26 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sensless

    (sense ... in ...) poor (taste).
    5124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1050780)
    Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Robbie

    Goo
    5125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1050745)
    Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    waves

    Shalom
    5126) Message boards : Politics : Flying Wednesday in the USA? (Message 1050744)
    Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those of you flying on Wednesday, why not make it easy for TSA? Walk into the terminal, and remain, naked.
    5127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1050685)
    Posted 24 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    things

    objects
    5128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1050236)
    Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hunting

    foraging!
    5129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1050144)
    Posted 21 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    spice

    Saffron (hopefully breaking the loop)

    Muad'dib.
    5130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1049677)
    Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Matter

    doesn't
    5131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1049447)
    Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bacon (lettuce and tomato)

    kosher
    5132) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1049446)
    Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The details of what is going on currently in California is something I am not an expert on. My personal experience is I was not taught Phonics and was instead taught to remember each word.


    Phonics is largely mocked, so why would you lament not having been taught that way? Besides, anyone interested in education should know multiple methods are called for.

    I was lucky that they did teach me math, but I bump into people who learned some of this new math and have no feel for numbers in their head.

    The problems in the school system are not new and many of the problems may have been around for 50 years or more. It's possible that the current testing is just showing a problem that's been there for a long time.


    And what do you know of this math?
    "New math" is the term used for what was taught in some places in the period shortly after Sputnik. It was scrapped, and rightly so, because no attention was paid to how people actually learn math. We were then rewarded with back to basics in the 70s, and I can tell you I got it while several others did not.
    And that's the rub. Learning math is hard. It does not come as naturally as, say, learning language. People have had trouble with fractions since humans began using them through the present day.
    With history, you can probably blame the same mindset as those who brought us "Back to Basics" math. And I will bet big money it wasn't Progressives. While there is more than name, place and date, not knowing those things is also a problem. Think about why.
    The problems of schools go back far beyond having only existed 50, 60 or 90 years. They are, however, exacerbated by growing societal troubles and by the fact that we have universal education until a certain minimum age, However, I take that to be part of the Great Democratic Experiment that the united States is and, despite the frustrations, I would not advocate for the removal of the opportunity to better ourselves through education.
    5133) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1049445)
    Posted 19 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [There is a difference between Socialist movement and the Progressive movement. The Socialist movement is bottom up. The idea being a revolution taking control of the government. The progressive movement is top down. A group of big money people trying to take control of the government by selecting officials and backing them. In progressivism, the top group is small, maybe only a few hundred people and very little is known about their actions. Most of the people who are progressives have no idea that the upper structure exist as assistance is delivered through one or more buffer groups.

    Why do you just re-word my statements and expand upon them?
    5134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1048794)
    Posted 16 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seti

    quest
    5135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1048556)
    Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Islands

    invade
    5136) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1048505)
    Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is doing the spending right now?

    Oooh! Oooh! Mr. kotter! Can I answer this one, Mr. Kotter?!?

    Let's see ... ummm ... not the banks and corporations? :)
    BTW, I think we need an equivalent for Godwin's Law for the term "troll." So easily bandied about.
    5137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own WORD LINK! 3 (Message 1048504)
    Posted 15 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cooking

    bite
    5138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047994)
    Posted 13 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    rights

    responsibilities
    5139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047988)
    Posted 13 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sherman-Williams

    I believe that should be Sherwin, but I will go with Sherman...

    March.


    civil
    5140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047878)
    Posted 12 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Carmenere

    carmen ... electra ... electron
    5141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047722)
    Posted 12 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    locomotive

    flute

    ?

    Piccolo


    Come now, John. By now you must realize I am thinking 2 or 3 links ahead, and surely you are at least aware of "Locomotive ... Breath" ... Jethro Tull ... the flute-playing "metal" band (according to the first metal music award in the early 90s, lol).

    To follow up on inquisition ... hmmm ... Crusades ... Middle East ... Arabic ... words from Arabic ... algorithm! ("Al Gore ain't got no rhythm.)
    5142) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1047719)
    Posted 12 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is what I was referring to. The period from 1962 to 1963 is a bit unclear. The last quoted paragraph indicates he had, for a while, abandoned his search for Ph.D. dissertation topic. Was he still taking classes? (At the least, he attended some talks, such as the one by Penrose.) If not taking classes, what was he doing to support himself and cover his medical costs? Did the NHS (or the benefits of current times Bobby has mentioned) exist at that time?

    http://discovermagazine.com/2009/jul-aug/11-stephen-hawking-is-making-his-comeback/?searchterm=hawking

    Not surprisingly, Hawking grew depressed, seeking solace in the music of Wagner (contrary to some media reports, however, he says he did not go on a drinking binge). And yet he did not disengage from life. Later in 1963 he met Jane Wilde, a student of medieval poetry at the University of London. They fell in love and resolved to make the most of what they both assumed would be a tragically short relationship. In 1965 they married, and Hawking returned to physics with newfound energy.

    Also that year, Hawking had an encounter that led to his first major contribution to his field. The occasion was a talk at Kings College in London given by Roger Penrose, an eminent mathematician then at Birkbeck College. Penrose had just proved something remarkable and, for physicists, disturbing: Black holes, the light-trapping chasms in space-time that form in the aftermath of the collapse of massive stars, must all contain singularities—points where space, time, and the very laws of physics fall apart.

    Before Penrose’s work, many physicists had regarded singularities as mere curiosities, permitted by Einstein’s theory of general relativity but unlikely to exist. The standard assumption was that a singularity could form only if a perfectly spherical star collapsed with perfect symmetry, the kind of ideal conditions that never occur in the real world. Penrose proved otherwise. He found that any star massive enough to form a black hole upon its death must create a singularity. This realization meant that the laws of physics could not be used to describe everything in the universe; the singularity was a cosmic abyss.

    At a subsequent lecture, Hawking grilled Penrose on his ideas. “He asked some awkward questions,” Penrose says. “He was very much on the ball. I had probably been a bit vague in one of my statements, and he was sharpening it up a bit. I was a little alarmed that he noticed something that I had glossed over, and that he was able to spot it so quickly.”

    Hawking had just renewed his search for a subject for his Ph.D. thesis, a project he had abandoned after receiving the ALS diagnosis. His condition had stabilized somewhat, and his future no longer looked completely bleak. Now he had his subject: He wanted to apply Penrose’s approach to the cosmos at large.
    5143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047558)
    Posted 11 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    locomotive

    flute
    5144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047313)
    Posted 10 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sound barrier

    sieve
    5145) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1047166)
    Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And that is what is wrong with America. The Red Chinese are correct, we are too damn soft. A couple of million wasted, and on what? Feel good?! Oxycontin is cheaper. Face it the kid never was going to produce, he was a parasite. Cut the parasites off. Darwin applies. Without parasites we are stronger and more fit.

    All this foolishness trying to prevent Darwin's law from working is like trying to prevent the law of gravity from working. Utter nonsense. Capitalism is Darwin in action. Yes, it is a wild ride and never pretty. Nothing better has been devised in the billions of years of the cosmos. Are you going to say you know a better way than the creator?


    And your social Darwinism applies to someone such as Stephen Hawking how?

    Mr. Hawking pays his own way.


    He does? Maybe you mean a different Hawking?

    nope

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6017878/Stephen-Hawking-I-would-not-be-alive-without-the-NHS.html

    Don't think the NHS paid for his care while he lived and worked in the United States, but maybe they did. I don't know their rules on that.
    For those who don't know, the NHS is the state funded, state run, state controlled, National Health Service in the UK. For all the the British right wing would like to dismantle this creation of the post WW2 Labour Government, whenever it has set its sights on the NHS it has had to back down.

    Ahh, perhaps you meant Mr Hawking pays his way by way of his income tax?

    In any case, I'm quite sure most any US University of the stature to have him as a professor would pick up his medical cost as part of a compensation package. Don't sell his draw short. Cambridge doesn't have to because of the NHS.


    I do believe when he was diagnosed, he either took time off from grad school, or delayed his entry to it. (Can anyone finding support of this?) If correct, then what was he doing and how did he pay his own way at that time?
    5146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1047165)
    Posted 9 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    selfreplication

    mitosis
    5147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1046745)
    Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Leary

    twenty

    Jackson
    5148) Message boards : Politics : Hard for me to say this......... (Message 1046743)
    Posted 7 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What part of Ted's argument do you not understand????????


    The part where every citizen can take justice into their own hands and deliver capital punishment at a whim.

    The part where every citizen is armed to the teeth and the streets become some insane version of a Sam Peckinpaw movie.(probably spelled the name wrong)

    The part where a multi millionaire can advocate for such craziness on the streets while he is one of the few priviledged elites who can afford to hide behind walled properties and hire protection from the idiots he's encouraging outside.


    A nation with a state that passed a "Make My Day Law." Did I make your day because I looked at you, as you perceive it, the wrong way? Because I said something you didn't understand , and you took it the wrong way? Is that why you pulled your gun? Did I make your day?

    I'm sorry you have such a thin skin.

    Nah. I don't. I'm dead!
    5149) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046544)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Global warming deniers, including Fox News talk-show host Glenn Beck, have asserted that the e-mails show collusion by climate scientists to withhold scientific information.
    However, prominent climate scientists, such as Richard Somerville, have called the incident a smear campaign. Phil Jones called charges that the e-mails involve any "untoward" activity "ludicrous", and Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research stated that the skeptics have selectively quoted words and phrases out of context in an attempt to derail the Copenhagen summit on global climate change in December.
    According to an offical statement from the University of East Anglia, "The selective publication of some stolen e-mails and other papers taken out of context is mischievous and cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way".

    http://www.examiner.com/environmental-news-in-tallahassee/climategate-debunked


    Don't forget the big discussion of the word "trick."
    Guess none of them had a math class with a teacher that said something like, "Here, let me show you this little trick for solving this problem ."
    5150) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046527)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And who do you suggest be in charge of deciding who makes the decision of who is a parasite and who is not?

    Why do you think some "governmental individual" will be making choices?

    Why do you think that's what I think? Hmmm?
    5151) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046408)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We created the Roaring twenties and we got out of the Carter stagflation. It goes to prove recovery is possible without a war, just a little political backbone is required. We should know by the next election.

    Oh. SO, there wasn't The Cold War. SDI. Funding the Mujahideen in Afghanistan?
    5152) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046406)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    for every job you do away with from a major corporation or government, you can count about 10 other jobs going away with it. We need more jobs, not fewer.

    This would be a great time for government sponsored wind and solar farms.

    Government jobs take away from the capital available for industry to expand. Government jobs are nothing other than a money sink. You need some government but it is best when kept small. As for the great hope of wind or solar, look at we are about to receive link. Think anybody is going to want to use green california power?


    And my state government teaching position takes away from what, and how?

    In my state (california) we have some of the highest education cost and some of the lowest test scores. I don't have a problem paying for quality but we are not getting it. Before the twentieth century schools were private in this country. The progressives were the ones pushing for pubic schooling. I think the problems started when when teachers decided that they could experiment with untested teaching methods and they didn't pay a price for failure because they were protected by government and the union. I suspect we have many teachers who deserve every cent they earn and more, but we have many who should be nowhere near our children.


    Hmmm, I happen to know quite a bit about testing of teaching methods. Care to discuss an issue of major debate in California from the late 90s? :)
    5153) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046405)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even today I find it hard to believe that such a group could exist for so long without the public knowing about it, but part of the reason is that they put themselves in the education system and teach the ideas of socialism without teaching the full history of it. The student walks away with the wonders of socialism without all the evils and they have another convert.

    Really? And just what connection do you have with a current education system, allowing you to draw this connection? (EDIT: replace connection with conclusion.)
    The following is a description of a course all are currently required to take at the college I attended as an undergraduate:
    This course examines episodes of cultural collision,
    moments when different world views-ideas about human origins, cultural
    values and practices, systems of politics, theories of science-come into
    contact with one another. We will study instances of cultural collision
    and exchange in order to consider some fundamental questions: How are
    human knowledge, values, and beliefs shaped? How do they evolve and
    spread? What can we learn about the values and belief systems of
    different cultures when they come into contact with one another? What
    can we learn about ourselves by exploring our encounters with other
    cultures?

    When I was an undergraduate, we had to take three of these courses, 1 in each of our first 3 years. When I took the junior level course, my professor was a known Socialist.
    By your way of thinking, all of us poor, mindless (and insert numerous other adjectives) college kids were easily duped by the guy, all walking across the graduation stage a year later converted to socialists.
    How very wrong you'd be, if that's what you think. He was vigorously debated against. (And I'm sure many others just shut down than allow themselves to be even exposed to Marx for a portion of the semester, because the Wall was still up ... it came down during my time as an undergrad ... and their parents and grandparents most likely spoke of socialism/communism in a manner similar to what you say about it.)
    Even those that walked away thinking there was some grain of truth to what Marx wrote pretty much realized that there have been no major successes of socialism.
    That sentiment was recently echoed by a 23 or 24 year old I met in the past year, now in a different part of the country, in what has been known as "Red State." To paraphrase him, "It's a nice idea, but it hasn't and never will work because people will always screw it up." He and I are about a generation apart, have very different backgrounds, etc. ..., and this young adult (what do we call his Generation? Z?) has come to the same conclusion. A convert of the educational system? I think not. I doubt there are nearly as many "converts" as you suspect.
    But I have to ask, in all your reading of original documents, have you read Marx? Do you dare? At the very least, you need to see how it was one of the major responses to the topsy-turvy world we were thrown into as a result of the Industrial Revolution, roughly beginning say around 1820 (?)and Marx responding within 30 to 50 years. You need to see it to understand the counter-responses, and the ensuing debate to all out battle that has ensued in the 160 years since.
    Two things in closing: remember that Marx did not believe socialism could be introduced by governments, but by the proletariat in revolt.
    Second, various things I have read from other sources suggest they want the same end goals as the Socialists, but differ on how those ends should be brought about. In fact, some would rather God do it.
    5154) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046399)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It all depends on the Republicans making major cuts in spending.

    What planet are you living on? Denial? It is utterly impossible to get or be reelected by cutting spending. If you cut spending you have less people who can give you a kickback to use on campaign advertising. You need more kickbacks so you have to spend more. This is how the system works!

    It has been done very effectively in the past and reelection was assured. My proof is here. Besides that, other than government workers, who cares if a bunch of government workers lose their jobs?


    Sure, let some professors at a state university go, and force the students to be crammed into the larger classes with fewer professors. Or, hire someone with less experience that you can pay less.
    5155) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046398)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    for every job you do away with from a major corporation or government, you can count about 10 other jobs going away with it. We need more jobs, not fewer.

    This would be a great time for government sponsored wind and solar farms.

    Government jobs take away from the capital available for industry to expand. Government jobs are nothing other than a money sink. You need some government but it is best when kept small. As for the great hope of wind or solar, look at we are about to receive link. Think anybody is going to want to use green california power?


    And my state government teaching position takes away from what, and how?


    In fact, I would reach less students at a smaller private college or university.
    5156) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046397)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It all depends on the Republicans making major cuts in spending.

    What planet are you living on? Denial? It is utterly impossible to get or be reelected by cutting spending. If you cut spending you have less people who can give you a kickback to use on campaign advertising. You need more kickbacks so you have to spend more. This is how the system works!


    IE, you don't like either party?

    Seriously, I think it is time for other offices besides the presidency to have 2 term limits. Senators, Representatives ... . Now, do we agree, and if so, how do we do it? Certainly, we can't let them vote on it in Congress.
    5157) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046395)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    for every job you do away with from a major corporation or government, you can count about 10 other jobs going away with it. We need more jobs, not fewer.

    This would be a great time for government sponsored wind and solar farms.

    Government jobs take away from the capital available for industry to expand. Government jobs are nothing other than a money sink. You need some government but it is best when kept small. As for the great hope of wind or solar, look at we are about to receive link. Think anybody is going to want to use green california power?


    And my state government teaching position takes away from what, and how?
    5158) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046393)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For years I have been trying to understand how people could fall under the spell of Hitler and I still don't fully understand it.

    Then you don't have to worry. Barack has been saying "Uhhh ... uhhh .uhhh ..." enough times that eventually it can become at least slightly annoying, and thus begin to be comparable to George W. Bush's several verbal gaffes. :)
    5159) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046391)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    he control the evil jews who were running the business that were keeping the german people down,



    What the hell is this Dena?
    I think empty minds like yours were the fodder for Hitler's rise.
    You use words with no understanding beyond the definitions given by Beck.
    You spout strange concepts that are historically incorrect but woven together to make sense in the chimp minds of Beck followers.

    You frustrate anyone attempting to speak truth to you with your Beckerhead logic.
    It's like you've lived in a cave for most of your life, with no access to real knowledge, history or current events.
    Suddenly, you find some twirp who speaks at such a level that you feel connected and there's just no turning you away.

    Enjoy your teabag party with all the other racists and hate mongers.


    Your attempts at rebuttals of Dena aren't much better.
    Your tone is quite a bit worse, and you toe a "party line" as well as she does, just not the same party.
    I find most of your posts as frustrating to read as Dema's, even when I agree with your basic premise!
    5160) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1046388)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And that is what is wrong with America. The Red Chinese are correct, we are too damn soft. A couple of million wasted, and on what? Feel good?! Oxycontin is cheaper. Face it the kid never was going to produce, he was a parasite. Cut the parasites off. Darwin applies. Without parasites we are stronger and more fit.

    All this foolishness trying to prevent Darwin's law from working is like trying to prevent the law of gravity from working. Utter nonsense. Capitalism is Darwin in action. Yes, it is a wild ride and never pretty. Nothing better has been devised in the billions of years of the cosmos. Are you going to say you know a better way than the creator?


    And your social Darwinism applies to someone such as Stephen Hawking how?
    And who do you suggest be in charge of deciding who makes the decision of who is a parasite and who is not?
    Have we ever seen someone some, or many, might label as a parasite eventually redeem themselves and become a great benefactor? Hmmm ... I think we could turn up aat least one in such a search.
    5161) Message boards : Politics : Does the UK own or run anything any more? (Message 1046383)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The UK government has sold the London to Folkestone high speed rail link to a Canadian consortium for £2.1bn ($3.4bn).

    Is that the British billion the US billion, as two sets of three zeros to you is a billion (correct?), but for some wacky reason that's our million.
    5162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1046382)
    Posted 6 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    forth

    fifth
    5163) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1045709)
    Posted 3 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Voted already by absentee ballot, Democratic, As I remember too, All of what Meg said is a bald faced lie. Repubs at the higher end just wanted a way to rule, So We put in Term Limits which they admit was a mistake and Prop 13 which gives business a nice tax break as Corporations own the buildings and so they rarely get reassessed when their sold as It's the Corporation that owns the property and It's the Corporation that gets sold, So We pay the rate for whatever Year we bought our homes and they for the most part still pay 1978 levels. And so they found a way to steal power by conning the California Public into doing what the couldn't do honestly, Win the power of a Majority, While being a Minority party.

    I voted No  on 20, 23, 26, 27.
    I voted Yes on 19, 21, 22, 24, 25.


    Go Jerry!

    You really should learn more about Fabian Socialism.

    Not interested. Most in the US wouldn't know a real Socialist from a hole in the ground and that includes Me. HSR, Being frugal, those are good qualities, Sure He'll spend money if It's worth It as an Investment, But then He has a Harvard Education, Today most Californians are in favor of HSR, Meg isn't, She wants to create jobs by doing nothing and spending nothing, No pain, No gain, So far both have proved that their good at exporting jobs(Carly and Meg), But then both are just Corporate Shills. We don't need Arnold in a skirt, He had no experience and look so does Meg, Most employers want to see experience, Yet the people seem to think cause they don't get all that they want that the worst must be happening and so We have Term Limits and a Republican takeover by a Minority Party that can't gain power the old fashioned way, By earning It.

    You don't understand. The american name for Fabian Socialism is progressivism or liberalism. Obama has admitted to being a progressive and Jerry is one. All the people who voted for the bailout and health care are progressives as well. I am not playing favors because some of the Republican including John McCain are progressive Lite. You should be interested in know just what the people you voted for want to do with your life and what they want to make the world look like.


    George W. Bush started the bailouts.
    5164) Message boards : Politics : 'I REMEMBER, SO I'M VOTIN n I AIN'T VOTIN REPUBLICAN' (Message 1045708)
    Posted 3 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then you must be voting Tea Party!

    AKA Republican.
    Name one Tea Party candidate that ran as an independent.
    5165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1045406)
    Posted 1 Nov 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    vibrations

    cosmic
    5166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1045163)
    Posted 31 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Charlie

    checkpoint
    5167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1045018)
    Posted 30 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lipitor

    (federal food and drug) administration
    5168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044911)
    Posted 30 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    tuber

    Solanaceae
    5169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044815)
    Posted 29 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    shirt

    more
    5170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044620)
    Posted 29 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rock & Roll

    dinner (on a Mesa)

    second
    5171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044308)
    Posted 28 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spray

    (Hair ... Godspell ... Gospel) ... epistle.
    5172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044281)
    Posted 28 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    stingers

    insect
    5173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1044182)
    Posted 24 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tulips

    Steve

    invertebrate
    5174) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1044181)
    Posted 24 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cause the idea of god is ridiculous.

    Your contribution is dogmatic tripe. :)
    5175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! 2 (Message 1043806)
    Posted 23 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Game

    theory
    5176) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1043762)
    Posted 22 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your taxes will be down when you file for 2010.

    Do you not know that? Republicans hope it remains a secret.
    If you are in the filthy rich category that may not be true.

    The title of this thread is offensive.
    I never liked W but I did not call him names.
    Name calling is so childish.
    The worst thing I ever called him was W.

    W did to America what he did to his Baseball team.


    Swindle is not name-calling. Now, if you want to say "Obama the Swindler," that is.
    5177) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1043760)
    Posted 22 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Well, thank you.......

    That's why I post these things here, so you can straighten my little republican a**ch out.


    Now, can you tell me why my social security taxes, income taxes and every other f'n tax I pay is going up, but my income has not been increased to compensate?

    Waiting.......the kitties are waiting......


    Mark, to say it bluntly, you need to watch your mouth. I am sure it is posts like that that made you invisible to me the occasions I looked in on the board while "lurking" for about 1.5 years. When we disagree, I still think most want you around to talk to.
    You do not know, necessarily, that the other cruncher is a Democrat.
    And here would've been a better reply (one it seems it takes an independent to post):
    1) Why go to factcheck.org? Why not go directly to health care bill? I am sure it is online (I seem to recall finding it once), as a pdf, and searchable. (E.g., words/phrases within the pdf document can be searched for while reading it in Acrobat or whatever.)
    2) Ask a question such as: what in the world is the connection between taxes on real estate and health care?!? Even if the other cruncher quoted from factcheck,org correctly, and they have their facts right, it skirts the real question.
    5178) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1043224)
    Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, if those three people believe what was in the link then I don't want them around either.

    Don't change the argument, now. You first spoke of an entire belief system, and how you take certain folks as representative.
    So, I have exposed the fallacy by taking things similarly large and pointing to one bad member: of a profession or locality.
    But now you don't want to be around the people? No, no, no, you said earlier you do not want to be around the entire larger thing they're a member of.
    Consistency is needed. :)
    5179) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1043219)
    Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about this for a reason.
    I don't want to be associated with people like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hga-mQyjYrI&feature=related


    Gotta love how the video maker gives NOT A SINGLE reference backing these things.
    Though, of course, an observant being knows at least some of things have indeed been said.
    5180) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1043216)
    Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about this for a reason.
    I don't want to be associated with people like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hga-mQyjYrI&feature=related


    I don't want to be a teacher because I do not want to be associated with Debra LaFave.
    I don't ever want to live in Massapequa, New York, so as not to be associated with Joey Buttafucco.
    Shall I come up with more silly examples?
    I don't want to be a scientist, so as to not be associated with Dr. Hwang.
    5181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1043213)
    Posted 18 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DSL(Down)

    broad
    5182) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042531)
    Posted 16 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Glad I/we made you laugh. And I think the thoughts clear. Either it's bogus, or it's business as usual like what we get from BOTH sides.


    ...and then Obama gets rich

    Because he and Cheney are cousins, right? :)
    5183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042519)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Matchlock

    (matlock) court
    5184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042508)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bat food(copyright Wayne Industries)

    gordon
    5185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042486)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    friend

    Lots(of)

    raccoons!
    5186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042455)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela!
    5187) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042448)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL....
    I ask for your opinion and I get the most amazing display of sarcasm this side of Henny Youngman and Rodney Dangerfield.

    Glad I/we made you laugh. And I think the thoughts clear. Either it's bogus, or it's business as usual like what we get from BOTH sides.
    5188) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1042446)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Her response was a less than eloquent or quick, "I'll have the information on my website tomorrow." well you were spouting numbers today. Numbers that you made clear you don't understand or know where they came from. So much for just reading the script. Perhaps a politician would think it prudent to actually understand what one is taking about

    Maybe I was not listening closely enough, but I thought was an answer to name a S. Court ruling in the last 5 years she disagreed with ... ?
    5189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042440)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Water

    drowning
    5190) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042438)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think bush 43 is a lefty as well. IIRC correctly it was noted that no matter who won the election 200 and 2004 we'd have had lefties in the house

    No, I watched. Knowing his father is a lefty, I checked. George W. is not, George H.W. is.
    If you have a link to a vid (undoctored!) showing otherwise, to test my memory, let me know.
    Of all vids of him around the innerweb, there must be one of him signing something.
    5191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042403)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    backache

    massage :)
    5192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042390)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    reunion

    confederate

    failed(Government)

    raise
    5193) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1042388)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    might as well talk about the Neoconservative talking points that Beck etal. use to lie to America. Heck, I watched about 15 minutes of the Odonnell debate from Deleware and I saw how she couldn't think once she got off message. These people are a sham. Much like the TACS test here in Texas. You can teach the kids the test but beyond that they are lost.

    When questioned on where she got her numbers she was a deer in the headlights

    Have a video link to that 15 mins. of debate and the deer in the headlights look for that question?
    5194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042371)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    reunion

    confederate
    5195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042271)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Diamond (ring)

    police
    5196) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042270)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/left-handed-presidents.html
    The following presidents were all southpaws:

    * 20th James A. Garfield
    * 31st Herbert Hoover
    * 33rd Harry S. Truman
    * 38th Gerald Ford
    * 40th Ronald Reagan
    * 41st George H.W. Bush
    42 Clinton
    33 Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

    BILDERBERGER!!!
    5197) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042217)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Left-handers are out to get you!

    George H.W. Bush
    Bill Clinton
    Ross Perot
    and now
    Barack HUSSEIN Obama!!!
    5198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042209)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ALCO(Locomotives)

    steam

    Turbine

    Wind

    flux
    5199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042193)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ALCO(Locomotives)

    steam
    5200) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042192)
    Posted 15 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (To jog your memories, Bill Ayers is a Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago . He founded the Weather Underground, a radical revolutionary group that bombed buildings in the 60s and 70s. He had no remorse for those who were killed, escaped jail on a technicality, and is still an admitted Marxist).

    To jog your memories, during the McCarthy era, an amendment to the Constitution was passed which made it illegal to be a Marxist in the USA. The amendment has never been repealed, and may in fact be bolstered by making it treason, punishable by death.
    BTW
    ENRON!
    HALIBURTON!
    (Ahhh, equal time ... WHITEWaTER!!!)

    I must have a problem with my copy of the constitution. My indicates the 22nd Amendment was passed in 1951 and limited the president to two terms. The 23rd Amendment was passed in 1961 and allowed the District of Columbia the right to be in congress. McCarthy was riding high in the mid 50's so I don't think it was an Amendment.

    Sorry, I heard it on the Ron Reagan show, so it must be true. :)
    5201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042159)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tap

    hammer-on-pull-off
    5202) Message boards : Politics : Behind the scenes.....the Obama swindle? (Message 1042158)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (To jog your memories, Bill Ayers is a Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago . He founded the Weather Underground, a radical revolutionary group that bombed buildings in the 60s and 70s. He had no remorse for those who were killed, escaped jail on a technicality, and is still an admitted Marxist).

    To jog your memories, during the McCarthy era, an amendment to the Constitution was passed which made it illegal to be a Marxist in the USA. The amendment has never been repealed, and may in fact be bolstered by making it treason, punishable by death.

    BTW








    ENRON!
    HALIBURTON!
    (Ahhh, equal time ... WHITEWaTER!!!)
    5203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042151)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    spinal
    5204) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1042150)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's talk about Glenn, baby. Let's talk about you ... and ... me. Let's talk about ... some plans ... about marr... y...ing a member ... of ... the Tea Party. Let's talk about it.
    5205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042028)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    green

    spectre
    5206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1042014)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    pulsar

    star!
    5207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1041955)
    Posted 14 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nicaragua

    Nicroette
    5208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1041863)
    Posted 13 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spiral

    hieroglyph
    5209) Message boards : Politics : I don't like Spinach... (Message 1041862)
    Posted 13 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I frackin' HATE spinach!!! It's one of the worst frickin' things in the universe, second only to broccoli (the one thing Robin Williams and George H.W. Bush could agree on).

    Broccoli is something else that can be ruined with little effort. If not fresh it gets a bad taste to it. If over cooked the same can happen. If you eat it fresh without cooking, use a ranch dressing dip. If you steam it, pull it as soon as it is tender and serve with a cheese sauce. I couldn't stand the taste of broccoli when I was young but with this knowledge I now like it.

    It's like carrots. Why would anyone cook them, when they are just fine cold and crunchy?
    5210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1041694)
    Posted 13 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    prudence



    Abstinence?

    Nancy, ha ha!
    5211) Message boards : Politics : I don't like Spinach... (Message 1041693)
    Posted 13 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I frackin' HATE spinach!!! It's one of the worst frickin' things in the universe, second only to broccoli (the one thing Robin Williams and George H.W. Bush could agree on).
    5212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040930)
    Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tire

    sleep
    5213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040884)
    Posted 11 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clinical

    alternative
    5214) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1040431)
    Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there a shred of original thought in the beginning lines of http://www.oppapers.com/essays/Opiate-Masses/134773?
    5215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040430)
    Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Charles

    Foregoing Darwin, let's think Lindbergh, and the Lindbergh baby.
    5216) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1040421)
    Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The great thing is the atheists are little to no better explaining themselves than the spiritual/religious! Ha ha ha ha ha!.......

    The problem is that Belief and Atheism are opposite sides of the same coin. One side can totally believe in something without proof and the other can totally disbelieve without similar proof.

    As a practicing agnostic I can admit the possibility of a "Superior Being" but can also see that billions of years of "Random Chance" could create the universe we live in. It's my opinion that if there is a Superior Being, He/She/It is a long way from the figure described in most religious texts. On the other hand, random chance says one of the religions might just be right. Who knows, the Gods may really live on Mt Olympus afterall.

    T.A.


    http://atheism.about.com/od/weeklyquotes/a/marx01.htm
    Overall, an interesting read, but I focus on the beginning:
    Karl Marx on Religion
    Is Religion the Opiate of the Masses?

    This quote is reproduced a great deal and is probably the only Marx quote that most people are familiar with. Unfortunately, if someone is familiar with it they are likely only familiar with a small portion that, taken by itself, tends to give a distorted impression of what Marx had to say about religion.

    (Em. added.)
    Thus, I think this and other statements trotted out are themselves treated like dogma, with little critical thought behind it, and it seems the bit I have em. added may bolster my claim. ???
    5217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040418)
    Posted 10 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Herculaneum(Near Pompeii)

    shrug
    5218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040277)
    Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    granted

    (Yer) pardon (has been)

    disastrous
    5219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040098)
    Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Green

    side
    5220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1040061)
    Posted 9 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Word

    lyric
    5221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1039410)
    Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    literature
    5222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038985)
    Posted 7 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Negative

    repulse
    5223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038864)
    Posted 6 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Less

    inequity
    5224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038773)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DOOM

    (Doctor Doom) Marvel.
    5225) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1038733)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Story always changes. :)
    5226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038732)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    up

    preposition
    5227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038572)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More

    greater

    (than the ... sum ...) conglomeration!
    (Winning!)
    5228) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Milky Way barred galaxy? (Message 1038549)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are there more bars than in Madison? :)
    5229) Message boards : Politics : UN to appoint Space Ambassador (Message 1038545)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got a link?

    None of the 2-3 articles I read said anything about a pulse.
    5230) Message boards : Politics : Why do/don't you believe in God? (Message 1038524)
    Posted 3 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The great thing is the atheists are little to no better explaining themselves than the spiritual/religious! Ha ha ha ha ha!
    Seriously, how many of you atheists grew up with atheist parents/guardians? :)
    5231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti's own... WORD LINK! (CLOSED) (Message 1038185)
    Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pedals

    Organ!
    (Winning!!!)
    5232) Message boards : Politics : Ya see, it went like this........... (Message 1038136)
    Posted 2 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A singer sits reciting Dylan its now that I welcome the end.

    When the Walls Came Tumbling Down!
    5233) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [14] (Message 1037621)
    Posted 1 Oct 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7540427.stm
    Perhaps one of the most surprising things in Garwood's book is her revelation that flat earth theory is a relatively modern phenomenon.

    Ms Garwood says it is an "historic fallacy" that everyone from ancient times to the Dark Ages believed the earth to be flat, and were only disabused of this "mad idea" once Christopher Columbus successfully sailed to America without "falling off the edge of the world".

    In fact, people have known since at least the 4th century BC that the earth is round, and the pseudo-scientific conviction that we actually live on a disc didn't emerge until Victorian times.

    Theories about the earth being flat really came to the fore in 19th Century England. With the rise and rise of scientific rationalism, which seemed to undermine Biblical authority, some Christian thinkers decided to launch an attack on established science.

    Samuel Birley Rowbotham (1816-1884) assumed the pseudonym of "Parallax" and founded a new school of "Zetetic astronomy". He toured England arguing that the Earth was a stationary disc and the Sun was only 400 miles away.

    In the 1870s, Christian polemicist John Hampden wrote numerous works about the Earth being flat, and described Isaac Newton as "in liquor or insane".

    Note: this says it is a relatively recent thing, so don't forget that before Victorian times, this means a flat Earth is not what Christians (or most) believed in.

    BTW, yes, I am answering a question from 30 minutes ago, lol.
    5234) Message boards : Politics : UN to appoint Space Ambassador (Message 1037603)
    Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can see the UN ambassadore miss pronouncing a key word. It will sound like this. HGTF HDSE HJ ywre jnxgiw- Translated- Feed me to your leader:)

    Hardly original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p06hdPTMJLo&feature=related
    5235) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1037200)
    Posted 30 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, I thought that I was responding to the the previous post. And the topics in the news about banning certain religious icons in France and Switzerland.

    next time i will check deeper into the starting posts, and I too like to stay on the topic.

    I suppose Glenn Beck vs MLK is not necessarily dealing with religion.

    je me excuse


    S'ok. It's just that Frank said something about majority and democracy, which Soft answered, eventually, with "You have every right to not be gay. You have a right to not be (insert ethnicity/religion/political affiliation of choice) if you do not wish to be. You do not have a right to tell others not to be (copy from previous insert)" (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61285&nowrap=true#1035374).
    Soft was just, I think, talking about the balance between minority and plurality (not necessarily majority). He only addressed religion tangentially.
    5236) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1037006)
    Posted 29 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I have the right to tell others that they can't join a cult (or for that matter a "religion" ) that espouses the overthrow of the Government. Do I have the right to outlaw a cult that enforces the degradation and subjugation of women to sexually-distorted notions left over from Harem days.

    Can I outlaw a religion if it fraudulently promises rewards in exchange for fealty and tithing. Promises such as life everlasting and the rewards of heaven. Or, a religion that has as it's ultimate secret (that we pay to find out) that we were visited by aliens.

    Can I outlaw a religion that advocates conversion or death for non-believers.

    So what is a cult and what is a religion? What is fraud and what is feel-good nonsense?

    Ku Klux Klan
    Branch Davidians
    minutemen
    All Religions ??

    You make a lot of great posts, but how does this have to with the topic?
    Please don't let vehement anti-religiosity send you into an evangelizing tirade trying to convert folks to atheism, k-o? It has little to nothing to do with this thread.
    5237) Message boards : Politics : Facebook ban on Cyberstalkers (Message 1035805)
    Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's about time they cracked down on this.

    Cyberstalkers

    Prosecutions under the Malicious Communications Act have nearly quadrupled in the past six years with 899 offenders charged over the 12 months to April this year, compared with 227 cases in 2004/05.


    Legislation

    Page Not Found

    Is the UK gov hiding its websites from me? :(
    5238) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1035802)
    Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dena tells us about the 17th Amendment. Well, looking very quickly how it use to work, it is easy to see other problems from that angle: nepotism, internal corruption, or the like.
    So, the state governor use to select the state legislature or something along those lines? Tell me, then, how was the governor elected or selected?

    Article 1 Section 3 of the constitution states they are selected by the state Legislature. The neat thing about our constitution is they never erase. They just add on and correct it as flaws are found. When we made the mistake of passing prohibition, we left it in with the correction to remove it.
    The idea was to counter the power of the people with the power of the state. This is also why we don't elect the president directly but instead use the Electoral College (Article 3 Section 1).

    I sense more contradictions. Is it just me?
    Without scrolling through the thread, I believe previously you said, or it was stated at a link you provided, that state governors appointed members of the nation's senate. I then asked how the governors got into office, and you said in what I quote here that they were appointed by the State Legislature.
    I suspect we both misread some things here, as it looks like in the past state legislators were elected by the people, and then they selected who would go on to be the nation's legilsators in D.C.
    This explains why recent commercials in my current state point to the conservative candidate for Senate wanting to "re-write the Constitution so that state legislators select our national senators."
    Dena, you've talked about Republics and Democracies. I can certainly find links on my own, but first I'm going to try to remember and hypothesize: Republics (planned or actual) were/are more in line with the people electing their representatives at the local level, while those representatives chose those serving at the federal level.
    (Note: I was going to say something myself about the Electoral College in my earlier post. My not mentioning it did not mean I needed a reminder about it. Let's see if we can find more than 1 or 2 instances in our entire history of the USA where the Electoral College turned in a result contrary to the popular vote.)
    So, back to contradictions: conservatives/libertarians talk a lot about individual rights. You should be just as concerned about possible corrupt practices under the old system, because it still leads to you having to put up with the senator working at the national level, as your fellow person your worried won't make good decisions ... because their reasons for voting for someone could be due to "demagoguery," "popularity" and fickle things.
    As you, or some link I found, stated, it was to balance "the power of the people" and "the power of the state." Since you're so worried about the "state" (federal government) intruding into your life too much, do you think the federal government now or ever did need protecting from the people? if you do, well, aren't you offended that you're lumped in as one of those "people" the federal government needs protecting from your "power"? You believe you make good choices, don't you? Is it a matter of worrying that your fellow citizens might not be as smart, or wise, and that it is them that will tip the balance? But, if we were to go back to old system, a right you were granted with the 17th Amendment, just so the 90 pound weakling at the beach of a federal government could be protected from the "power of the people" and you could be protected from the "power of your fellow citizen to make bad choices or ones you disagree with," you're in a vicious circle. You want the federal government to intrude into all facets of our life less, and yet you'd cede control over something you now have a say in back to the politicians.
    What say you, folks? Real contradiction?
    5239) Message boards : Politics : Facebook ban on Cyberstalkers (Message 1035794)
    Posted 24 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I used social networking, I'd lock down those privacy controls I keep hearing about.
    5240) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1035410)
    Posted 23 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The stock market did not bring up the unemployed. You are right everyone has a right but when we do not honor the will of the majority then we are not a democracy. I suppose if a few (minority) wants something they should be able to force that on the majority? I think not. Democracy is based on the vote (will) of the majority or there would be no reason to vote. Just give everyone what ever they want.

    Sigh.
    Majority can only be achieved when garnering more than 50% (including 50.000001%).
    When there are two choices/candidates, short of a tie, then, yes, we can have a majority winner.
    We use the Plurality Method instead, since often there are more than two choices. Under this method, the winner is the one with the most votes. (If we ranked all choices in our votes instead, we'd be referring to the one with the most first place votes.)
    Remember, Obama and McCain were not the only candidates. Nader ran, among others. In such a situation, a majority win is still possible, but perhaps less likely? I imagine most Americans believe Plurality is the next best thing: if you can't satisfy a majority, at least satisfy the most.
    Dena tells us about the 17th Amendment. Well, looking very quickly how it use to work, it is easy to see other problems from that angle: nepotism, internal corruption, or the like.
    So, the state governor use to select the state legislature or something along those lines? Tell me, then, how was the governor elected or selected?
    5241) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1035136)
    Posted 21 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In any case, if you think about it, there is little to separate the left anti war protesters from the right anti abortion protesters. The both resort to the same tactics and about the only thing that's different is the issue they are protesting.

    Which mirrors my comment about communism and Nazism being similar mostly or only in being totalitarian.

    Back to your question. Glen is not perfect and has made mistakes but the best response I can provide is from Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left . Page 71 contains the following

    Hitler is just as straightforward in Mein Kampf. He dedicates an entire chapter to the Nazis' deliberate exploitation of socialist and communist imagery, rhetoric, and ideas and how this marketing confused both liberals and communists. The most basic example is the Nazi use of the color red, which was firmly associated with Bolshevism and socialism. "We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation ... so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings... so that in this way we got a chance of talking to people." The Nazi flag-a black swastika inside a white disk in a sea of red-was explicitly aimed at attracting Communist. "in red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for victory of the Aryan man".


    Page 72 states

    Nazism's one-nation politics by its very definition appealed to people from all walks of life. Professors, students, and civil servants were all disproportionately supportive of the nazi cause.

    Though with more detail than I knew or remembered, this says what I said., but for one thing: Glenn Beck did not make a mistake. I think most viewers regardless of association would realize he was guilty of deliberate twisting of the truth.

    Be warned that someone who is a strong liberal will consider the book junk or will have many of their believes shattered by reading the book.

    Disagreeing with Beck or addressing his major errors or deliberate twists does not make one a liberal. I do not discuss these things like most, or any, others here. Trying to guess my affiliations will cause you great difficulty. :)

    BTW, you made these detailed comments about what Hitler was able to do, yet ask below how Beck can get the ratings or reviews that he does if Beck is so filled with hate as others here have asserted, Truly, truly, I ask of you, do you not see the contradiction between that question and your statements here about Hitler?
    5242) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1035130)
    Posted 21 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The news agencies put news crews on the planes with the candidate. The amount of time these stories are broadcast is the coverage. The Muslim thing was not an issue then, but some attention was payed to the country of birth. On the other hand, Fox was about the only network that covered Joe the Plumber. John McCain was an old hand at election so it was hard to find fault with him till he picked a Vice President. Then the left came down on him like a ton of bricks. Most the coverage for both sides consisted of speeches and interviews, Over all, the attacks were within limits for both sides.

    Once again, history disagrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRq6Y4NmB6U. Remember these words from John McCain?
    5243) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1033639)
    Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... when I get some time to properly address them ... .

    Message 1030499 - Posted 3 Sep 2010 18:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 1030326.
    Last modified: 3 Sep 2010 18:26:38 UTC
    5244) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1033525)
    Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can talk issues till your blue in the face and you can talk left and right but that's not getting to what's important. Glen put the following chart up but I expanded it somewhat to include additional forms of government. It comes down to how much impact government has in your life. Every time the government does something for you, you have given up or they have taken a freedom from you. Where is America? That depends on when you are talking about. Under the Articles of the Confederacy, we were an Anarchy. We quickly discovered that we couldn't survive that way, so the Constitution was written and we became a Republic. We remained a Republic for the most part till around 1929 drifting out of Republic during the Civil War and the Wilson administration. From 1929 on we have had a Progressive government and it's hard to say exactly where we are today, but we are around Progressive 3-4.

    It's not so much what you call the government, it's what the people behind the government do. The Progressives in our country were in love with the Nazis and the Fascist before World War II and the Nazis got many of their ideas about racial purity from the American Progressive. What I find fearful is many of those early Progressive ideas are still alive in the modern Progressive party of today. Go beyond Glen and learn your history, You will find what Glen is saying is truthful and he still hasn't told all of the story. The Left is full of Progressives and the Right has it's share as well. The difference is that the Right Progressives think the Left progressives have gone to far. There are few in congress who truly believe in a Republic.

    The Progressive idea is that you are unable to take care of your self so the government must take care of you. The government is now going to take away your ability to make your own health care decisions. In the past they made the decision as to weather you will serve in the military and they have decided that Union workers are entitled to more protection from the government than non-union workers.
    The question I ask you is are you an adult and able to take care of your self and make your own decisions or do you need the government to take care of you. If you want the government to take care of you, back the Progressives. If not, look for people who believe in the Republic.

    NO GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE
    Anarchy
    Republic light
    Republic medium
    Republic heavy
    1 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Socialist-light
    2 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Socialist-medium
    3 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Socialist-heavy
    4 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Communism-light
    5 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Communism-medium
    6 Progressive Marxist Sharia Sovereign Fascism Dictator Communism-heavy

    TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE


    Nice.
    You didn't address the fact that I pointed out a MAJOR error of Glenn's. MAJOR.
    I didn't post to you the way others have. Many of the other posts can be boiled down to "Beck is a nut and you're nuts for listening to him."
    Watch the video at the link I posted, or watch it again. Glenn Beck said the Nazi's were socialists solely on the basis of the name of the party, which, translated, was/is Nationalist Socialist. It's just a name, and there is no element of socialism to it. A visit to the US' Nationalist Socialist party website reveals American Neo-Nazi's are in no way liberal/socialist.
    5245) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1033185)
    Posted 16 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks a lot Sarge, here you go bringing in a bunch of actual facts and this thread just quiets up....

    While I used to feel your angst with what is a muck with the NeoCon right, aka Tea Party... I felt there's not much that can be done when a multi-million dollar so-called "News" agency floods the market with their agenda and propaganda.

    It makes me feel warm inside when fact based arguments, not - I've researched this and it's right - are brought to light for everyone to see. Thank you for your diligence and keep fighting the Good Fight.


    I used a tactic of Rush Limbaugh's: "You don't need make this stuff up!" If you want to combat what Glenn Beck says, listen to what he says and address what he says.

    I am very curious what Dena's reaction was when she reading my first post to this thread.
    5246) Message boards : Politics : Do you believe in GOD? (Message 1031429)
    Posted 6 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As someone raised Lutheran but a professed agnostic for almost a decade, here's something to consider:

    Some point to people of religion/faith as people that are simply believing the same fairy tales as their parents; people that do not question.
    So, if you are atheist, how is it any different if your parents (or other caregivers until the time you were 18) were atheists? Did you choose to be atheist? If all we get to read are old ideas, like those of Marx, or whomever it was that said religion is the opiate of the masses, designed by a ruling elite to control the masses, how does that show that you have reasoned through anything and chosen something?
    Someone who has actually thought it through and moved from faithful to agnostic or to atheism is someone who is really making a choice, and dealing with discomfort. If religion/faith supposedly brings one comfort ... comfort that they are right and will be rewarded at some point ... how is it different for the undiscerning atheist that takes comfort that (s)he is the one that is right, or any other comfort that may be derived from atheism?

    As for the questions of whether science helps expel faith, no, it does not. I dealt with that issue elsewhere in these forums 3 years ago, and quite well (until I got sick of dealing with some thickheadedness and abusive comments, and fell to nearly the same behavior). Whether you want to accept it or not, science and math do have a small body of underlying assumptions from which all the rest follows. Fact.

    Recent web news articles point to Hawking saying either there is no God or that God is not needed. (Need links?) One essentially quoted him as saying that gravity can create something out of nothing, hence the Big Bang was possible without God. Is gravity itself not something of some sort? So, where did gravity come from? If Hawking truly believed in a God beforehand, and now does not, he had pushed the search all the way back to the Big Bang (reductio ad absurdum?), then how does this decide it one way or the other? Where did gravity come from?
    5247) Message boards : Politics : Glenn Beck vs Dr. Martin Luther King (Message 1030499)
    Posted 3 Sep 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't take Glen at his word and I checkout what he is saying from other sources. So far I have only found one very minor error in what he said that didn't change the message.


    A post from the prodigal son, soon to disappear again. The independent prodigal son.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWT5Q7TloM
    Make up your mind, Glenn. Is it fascism (far right) or socialism (far left)? Within this one video, he confuses the two (probably deliberately): read "1984" and learn something about Orwell himself ... Big Brother was socialist/communist, not fascist. (In fact, Orwell was also a socialist, and was predicting how views similar to his could be taken too far.)
    But here he is saying it's socialism we're headed for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4FgeVOabSg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_QwNnFSI-U&feature=related.
    Oh, lovely! In that last video link I provided, he points out Nazi stood for "Nationalist Socialist"-the name didn't make them socialists! They were fascists!

    Break for emphasis: that last video link is the most important. It is no minor error to conflate the fascist, far right, Nazis with communist, far left, Stalin and the USSR. It is a MAJOR error or, at worst, outright deception.

    http://remember.org/guide/Facts.root.nazi.html
    Quote: "Totalitarian regimes differ from older concepts of dictatorship or tyranny. Totalitarian regimes seek to establish complete political, social and cultural control, whereas dictatorships seek limited, typically political, control. Two types of totalitarianism can sometimes be distinguished: Nazism and Fascism which evolved from "right-wing" extremism, and Communism, which evolved from "left-wing" extremism. Traditionally, each is supported by different social classes. Right-wing totalitarian movements have generally drawn their popular support primarily from middle classes seeking to maintain the economic and social status quo. Left-wing totalitarianism has often developed from working class movements seeking, in theory, to eliminate, not preserve, class distinctions. Right-wing totalitarianism has typically supported and enforced the private ownership of industrial wealth. A distinguishing feature of Communism, by contrast, is the collective ownership of such capital.

    Totalitarian regimes mobilize and make use of mass political participation, and often are led by charismatic cult figures. Examples of such cult figures in modern history are Mao Tse-tung (China) and Josef Stalin (Soviet Union), who led left-wing regimes, and Adolf Hitler (Germany) and Benito Mussolini (Italy), who led right-wing regimes."

    And here's a funny observation: if the Nazis were socialists as Glenn *wants* us to believe, then who did the USSR (the REAL communists) team up with? Ohhh! THAT'S right!!! US! Against the FASCIST axis members of Germany, Italy and Japan.
    Nazism and Scoailism/Communism = diametrically opposed. The only similarity? Each falling to totalitarianism,

    Yes, it was Orwell that also wrote about the rewriting of history, pulling the wool over our eyes. And I tell you now, we always knew the USSR and Nazi Germany were diametrically opposed. It was so refreshing of Glenn to take on his socialist visitor to the show and set us straight after about 50 years. Not.
    5248) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 6 ) (Message 985020)
    Posted 29 Mar 2010 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Calm Chaos, a great little team with a big impact.

    5249) Message boards : Politics : Critical Mass Bicyclist Assaulted by NYPD (Message 790819)
    Posted 1 Aug 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Critical Mass, for those that don't know, is a monthly event in New York where cyclists "take control" of a few streets. Relations between the cyclists and the NYPD have at times been fraught, last Friday was the first incident that I've heard of in a while.

    In this case the Officer has said that he wanted to stop a cyclist who was riding erratically. The Mayor has said the Officer's beahvior looked "totally over the top and inappropriate".

    [edit]There's an article on the subject here.
    [/edit]


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxjxAMQXpY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFTOttgaA0w
    5250) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790490)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby,

    Since I posted the knot link I thought I'd put a small note in there for Sarge to keep in mind since relative airspeed affects relative ground speed.


    Huh?


    I think it's that planes measure their speed through air (airspeed) and as air is often moving, ground speed may be different, e.g. a plane heading into a 40 knot wind may read airspeed as 340 knots, relative ground speed would be 300 knots. Given the weather conditions on 9/11 I suspect the highest gust would be less than 20 mph meaning the ground speed would be over 500 mph.


    My point is I do not know why he is referencing me in that portion of the discussion.
    5251) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790473)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bobby,

    Since I posted the knot link I thought I'd put a small note in there for Sarge to keep in mind since relative airspeed affects relative ground speed.



    .


    Huh?
    5252) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790472)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the charity, Bill Gate$! :)
    Seriously, though ... ok, so he had trouble landing at a slow speed. But he wasn't trying to land on 9/11, was he? What do they say about his ability in flight? With nothing said, I'd venture he was either a little shaky or ok ... ? It just said he had difficulty with landing. On 9/11, a landing did not matter to him, striking The Pentagon did.
    On another note, why is it my Muslim friends never said something to me along the lines of "They didn't do it"? Is someone that claims there's a cover-up by the U.S. going to tell me they've even pulled the wool over the eyes of intelligent Muslims? (My Muslim friends simply said that the hijackers were not "true" Muslims ... meaning, they had not really been following the faith truly.)


    How are your Muslim friends supposed to know? They can't deny or confirm anything because they haven't looked into it just like most people. Their comments about them not being real Muslims is true in that in their religion violence is forbidden. Just like in Catholicism, but that doesn't stop some Catholics, or any religious faith members from being jackasses. Except for most Buddhists. They're pretty human. Or should I say non-human.


    .


    How do you know whether they looked into it?
    5253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 790469)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "If Sarge can't this laptop working, it's time to take things into my own hands ... errr, paws ... errr ... ."
    5254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 790467)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops. I mis-read that. :( BD got honorable mention.
    5255) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790432)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the charity, Bill Gate$! :)
    Seriously, though ... ok, so he had trouble landing at a slow speed. But he wasn't trying to land on 9/11, was he? What do they say about his ability in flight? With nothing said, I'd venture he was either a little shaky or ok ... ? It just said he had difficulty with landing. On 9/11, a landing did not matter to him, striking The Pentagon did.
    On another note, why is it my Muslim friends never said something to me along the lines of "They didn't do it"? Is someone that claims there's a cover-up by the U.S. going to tell me they've even pulled the wool over the eyes of intelligent Muslims? (My Muslim friends simply said that the hijackers were not "true" Muslims ... meaning, they had not really been following the faith truly.)
    5256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 790427)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Honorable mention goes to BeefDog for:

    Even younger members of the population were deeply distressed to hear that G.W.Bush had been re-elected.


    Runner up goes to rebest for:

    Oh, please don't give me to W! He screws up everything he touches! NO!!


    And the winner is Es99 for:

    "Here you go..this must be worth a couple of barrels at least."


    Nice work all!


    ES99's pretty avatar had nothing to do with the judging.

    :x



    .


    Thanks!!!! And well done to Es99!


    Now you have to post a funny pic and judge the responses.
    5257) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790168)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what would we expect to happen to a plane at over 500 mph?

    Dunno, planes don't go 500 mph... ;)

    As a heckler, Jeffrey, you're slipping.
    Dry sarcastic humor like that is supposed to be a Sarge forte.
    Come on. Just how fast do planes go, then, eh?
    (Hopefully you do not think as slow as some of the answers to d = rt problems I've seen some students submit.)
    5258) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 6 ) (Message 790166)
    Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos, an International team. Meet people from all over the world. Be a name instead of a number. Red makes great BBQ.

    Check our recruitment thread here and our forums. Links to the forums and to join are in my signature.



    See? Labbie's helpful, not scary like his avatar might suggest. :)
    5259) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790074)
    Posted 30 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I'm not sure you got my point about bringing about the auto accident.


    I think I got it, you were saying a car is wrecked at something less that 100 mph, what would we expect to happen to a plane at over 500 mph? I was talking to the other side of the equation, a concrete barrier is hardly damaged by a car, what should we expect if a plane were to hit one?


    OK, you got it. (My mention of "the other side" was the jokingly said part "The concrete, by all reports, walked away dazed and confused, shaken not stirred, but undamaged/alright.")
    5260) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 790018)
    Posted 30 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I'm not sure you got my point about bringing about the auto accident.
    5261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 789896)
    Posted 30 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The probability to hit a circle with radius r is 2*pi*r*dr/(pi*r0^2) = 2xdx, where r0=1 radius of the board, x = r/r0.
    So the mean distance is R = 2*r0/3 = 2/3

    Luke, your response? :)

    Luke?
    5262) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789657)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for footage of the collision, there's some out there, including this. Not the best of angles, but it is a running camera (as opposed to stop motion).

    Doesn't show the airplane? It certainly shows something following a path that ends in an explosion.


    Interesting,

    I didn't see anything the first time since it blends in with the cars traveling in the same direction. Switched computers to big screen. Laptop let me down even with 17 " monitor.

    Reassessing.


    OK, so say the plane is going "due" east. You can see a car going, say, southeast. But I can still see something, possibly a plane.
    5263) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789654)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the original question: ok, so maybe the plane was being flown lower for longer than I thought. Is there information on this? For example, is there info stating how long before striking that they'd pulled out of the dive? We're they skimming just above the highways for a few minutes?

    Also, how many of you have been in auto accident? Did that involve hitting concrete on the side of the road (for example, concrete guards in areas where there's a steep drop to the side of the road)? In 1994, on my way back from an interview, I was on an interstate, doing plus or minus 1 or 2 mph the speed limit (65 or 70?). It was 1-2 a.m. A drunk 19 y.o. passed two semis doing 80-100 m.p.h. He pulled back in to the right lane and realized too late I was there and how quickly he was coming up on me. As he pulled back out to try to pass, he clipped the left rear end of my car. I was sent spinning, hitting the concrete on the side of the road many times. Guess which thing suffered damage? The car or the concrete. All reports indicate the concrete (as well as myself) were shaken and stunned but undamaged. The car was totaled. Now imagine a plane at 300-500 m.p.h. slamming directly into really really strong concrete. I can see much of the plane being pulverized in this action.

    What originally did not make sense to me was the path. So, now I am asking for info about that path, if it exists. (Height, over what, etc. ... .)
    5264) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789642)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As for footage of the collision, there's some out there, including this. Not the best of angles, but it is a running camera (as opposed to stop motion).

    Doesn't show the airplane? It certainly shows something following a path that ends in an explosion.
    5265) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789638)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since they refuse to show the American people and the world the videos of the Pentagon strike I call foul. Nothing to hide? Then show us.

    Sick of the "truthers"? Then show us.


    .


    I've seen a few. One looks like a plane. One looks like it might be a missile. A couple of days ago, when I started following your thread, I saw one from a nearby gas station where no plane or anything striking the building at all is evident (only that there was an explosion). Maybe we should just believe all these contradictory things to play it safe? :)


    Given that people like eye witness accounts, here's one from Mike Walter, the man who saw a "cruise missile with wings" (at least that's what you'll read in the French account).

    And here you'll find several pictures of debris.

    As for footage of the collision, there's some out there, including this. Not the best of angles, but it is a running camera (as opposed to stop motion).


    Thanks, Bobby. I've watched one so far and this was a related video in the same vein.
    5266) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789627)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since they refuse to show the American people and the world the videos of the Pentagon strike I call foul. Nothing to hide? Then show us.

    Sick of the "truthers"? Then show us.


    .


    I've seen a few. One looks like a plane. One looks like it might be a missile. A couple of days ago, when I started following your thread, I saw one from a nearby gas station where no plane or anything striking the building at all is evident (only that there was an explosion). Maybe we should just believe all these contradictory things to play it safe? :)


    Oh for crying out loud, JUST DRINK the Kool-Aid.


    Please be sure to read all of my posts in this thread (there aren't that many).
    5267) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789602)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since they refuse to show the American people and the world the videos of the Pentagon strike I call foul. Nothing to hide? Then show us.

    Sick of the "truthers"? Then show us.


    .


    I've seen a few. One looks like a plane. One looks like it might be a missile. A couple of days ago, when I started following your thread, I saw one from a nearby gas station where no plane or anything striking the building at all is evident (only that there was an explosion). Maybe we should just believe all these contradictory things to play it safe? :)
    5268) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789529)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, for people on both sides, how in the world was the plane that hit The Pentagon able to dive and then fly nearly parallel to the ground just before the strike. Having passed by The Pentagon a few times in the past 11 years, while riding the Metro, I just don't get it.

    What I want to know is how in the world was someone was able to pick the Lotto winning numbers last week. Having purchased Lotto tickets a few times in the past years, while drinkin' a cool 40, I just don't get it. I mean, the odds are what, nearly 200,000,000 to 1 against?

    Sarge, you know better than this. You can't look at something that happened after the fact and then try to calculate the odds against or the difficulty as if that hit was intended to hit that spot on the building in exactly that way.


    It's not a matter of trying to calculate odds. I mean this question sincerely. Watching (or, in some cases, re-watching) some of the vids about the planes crashing into the WTC, I don't find that a stretch ... particularly given a last moment angling that put one of the planes back on target. So, while this isn't a question about odds, I suppose a related question would be "Why didn't they hit The Pentagon along the roof, instead?"
    5269) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 6 ) (Message 789527)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos..Join Calm Chaos!!

    Calm Chaos, the team where you can hear guitar virtuoso Exit 13 jam!!!
    5270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 789525)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The probability to hit a circle with radius r is 2*pi*r*dr/(pi*r0^2) = 2xdx, where r0=1 radius of the board, x = r/r0.
    So the mean distance is R = 2*r0/3 = 2/3

    Luke, your response? :)
    5271) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789353)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's how it seems to me.
    At a glance, there does not seem to be much room for leveling out.
    5272) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789285)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you champ,

    I'd like to expand the topic to include the entire 911 phenomenon.


    PS: It was a joke Sarge.


    .


    P.P.S. - it was funny. ;-)

    So, for people on both sides, how in the world was the plane that hit The Pentagon able to dive and then fly nearly parallel to the ground just before the strike. Having passed by The Pentagon a few times in the past 11 years, while riding the Metro, I just don't get it.
    5273) Message boards : Politics : Mythbusters To Tackle Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories (Message 789249)
    Posted 29 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the link. I have a friend who thinks we never landed on the moon in the 60s and 70s, and we've discussed this topic in detail. I'd like to forward this link to him so that he can watch this episode (if he can) to see how he reacts to it.


    What if the two guys (Jamie and that other one) suggest there's plausible evidence that we didn't?
    LOL!
    5274) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox v3.0.1 bugs & work-arounds (Message 789094)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops. Siran, if you didn't want other FF bugs discussed, my apologies for joining in a tangential topic.
    5275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kpax.......... (Message 789091)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can only take 1 person
    back with me when I go......

    Pick me... Pick me... ;)

    "I think you should get to know your own PLANET a lot better first."
    5276) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox v3.0.1 bugs & work-arounds (Message 789076)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have another fix. Firefox is known not to display embedded windows media player. I have a version of the driver for this that DOES work with FF. You can download it here

    That still didn't help me play the music at the Calm Chaos forums. :(

    That's the only media player that I've found that doesn't work with this program :(

    I wish I knew what Buga set up to compress. What program is running in the background and with what codec.
    5277) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox v3.0.1 bugs & work-arounds (Message 789073)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have another fix. Firefox is known not to display embedded windows media player. I have a version of the driver for this that DOES work with FF. You can download it here

    That still didn't help me play the music at the Calm Chaos forums. :(
    5278) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 789065)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge can't read

    LOL! OK, let me get you the addresses of my high school and the institutions (yes, plural) that have granted me the degrees I've earned. They'll be horrified to know they let an illiterate man graduate, with honors, even! Funnier still that I help prepare pre-service teachers. Good thing it's not the part about reading, huh? :)

    The amazing thing about you, MrGray, and at least a handful of others that have posted on these forums about similar topics is this: you forget when some people have shown an interest in some of your posts and indicated their open-mindedness to some of your ideas; when these same people point out some glaring errors (such as in logic) or even raise the smallest possible of objections, you turn on them. The way you turn on them is quite disturbing indeed.
    5279) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't Connect to Server (Message 789054)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woooooohooooooo

    Up and download of WU´s works for me now.



    Scheduler seems to be down again.

    Upload server works though.


    Not for me: 7/28/2008 18:13:16 UTC||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
    5280) Message boards : Number crunching : Server Problems Mon 7-28-08 6:00AM ? (Or is it me?) (Message 789049)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have been getting work, but that work has not be able to get reported, but the upload has worked since about friday.


    Scheduler seems to be down again.

    Upload server works though.


    Not for me: 7/28/2008 18:13:16 UTC||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
    5281) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (8) Server problems (Message 789048)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scheduler seems to be down again.

    Upload server works though.


    Not for me: 7/28/2008 18:13:16 UTC||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
    5282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kpax.......... (Message 788941)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bluebird....

    Blubird music
    5283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kpax.......... (Message 788939)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bluebird....

    "Mrs. Archer! Coming out of her room!!!"
    5284) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 788922)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    See emphasis.

    Let's look at the instant replay:

    Rush said ->

    For the Pentagon, that wasn't a plane that a pilot tried to set down on a freeway, using as much control as the pilot had left, moving as slow as he possible, that just happened to hit a building. That plane was flown as fast and hard as possible, directly and intentionally into a bomb-resistant and blast-reinforced building. Net result? It literally shattered--just like the test video of the plane hitting the concrete wall.


    I said ->

    Show us the video.


    Scroll down 3 posts to see lawsuits for the "supposed" videos, Sarge...


    Do I need to make a Power Point presentation for you guys?

    :D



    .

    5285) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 788815)
    Posted 28 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice finds, Rush.
    If MrGray wanted videos that the FBI supposedly confiscated, he should have said so to begin with. No, he just said, vaguely, show us the video.
    5286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 788262)
    Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge, Jason Gee is correct. The tests are the equal...
    ....


    Hi Luke, I've spotted the problem with that gold sampling question and think Sarge should get at least a 1/2 point. It states:"It is assumed that the amount of gold in a sample in either location have a standard normal distribution with a fixed, yet unknown, mean and variance, and that the variance in both locations is equal..."

    To get the 'right' answer, I calculated the variance independently in both locations, for the 'test for equal means':

    Location A variance = 0.018626667
    Location B variance = 0.033536667

    clearly different (well depending on if there's a 'test for equal variance' I'm unaware of... LoL.)

    Assuming equal variance implies selecting a different test formula, which is probably what Sarge has done. I was lucky enough to choose to ignore the bolded part of the question in favour of the 'simpler' test.


    Even if the means and variances were the same, the sample means and sample variances could differ. But, I did use a formula that made the assumption of equal but unknown variances as stated in the problem conditions.
    5287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 788115)
    Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks!

    I've never won so how about this one? Has it been used before?




    .


    "I'm a beliefer in ... ummm ... *cough* *cough* ... pheeeyew! ... pro-living."
    5288) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 787799)
    Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So sacrifices and burnt offerings takes away a persons sins

    In the Old Testament, under the old covenant, yes... In the New Testament, under the new covenant, no...

    So to answer your question: No, sacrifices and burnt offerings do not take away a persons sins... ;)


    As Data would say, "Did I not just say that, sir?"
    5289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 787798)
    Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm,
    That's odd, I get t = -1.75129 which passes the test against 1.782 (Just), meaning they'd be equal. Oh well, I'm probably using the wrong formula(usual story).
    Specifically I'm using the test of equal means one to get my t:
    t = (Xa-Xb)/ SQRT( ( Na*Sa +Nb*Sb)/(Na+Nb))) , X being the mean, N being the count, and S representing the variance (normally written as s-squared)

    Jason


    The difference is in where we summed the total from the two samples. I have this, but 2 is subtracted from it. Like I said, it's been awhile, but notice how that is the same as the degrees of freedom. Why should these be the same, and why use n[1] + n[2] - 2 for the degrees of freedom? I don't recall. I'm just guessing that it is 1 off from each sample size.

    [EDIT 1] Na*Sa +Nb*Sb vs. Na * Sa + Nb * Sb - 2.
    [EDIT 2] There's another difference. sqrt (1 / Na + Nb) vs. sqrt((1/Na) + (1/Nb)).
    5290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 787758)
    Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, it's been a while since I've had to work out this type of problem, either a student or a teacher, but, here goes.

    With calculations below.
    The null hypothesis was that the two means were equal. The null hypothesis must be rejected. If I recall correctly, we can say with 90% confidence that the mean gold content of both locations is not equal.
    The formulas used here come from Mathematical Statistics (5th edition), by John E. Freund. (The fact that the two random samples are small, from normal distributions with the same unknown variances.) Formulas were entered on the software package MAPLE.

    > with(stats):
    >
    Warning, these names have been redefined: anova, describe, fit, importdata, random, statevalf, statplots, transform

    > sample[1]:=[1.23, 1.42, 1.41, 1.62, 1.55, 1.51, 1.60, 1.76];
    > sample[2]:=[1.76, 1.41, 1.87, 1.49, 1.67, 1.81];
    >

    sample[1] := [1.23, 1.42, 1.41, 1.62, 1.55, 1.51, 1.60, 1.76]


    sample[2] := [1.76, 1.41, 1.87, 1.49, 1.67, 1.81]

    > sample_mean[1]:=describe[mean](sample[1]);
    > sample_mean[2]:=describe[mean](sample[2]);
    >

    sample_mean[1] := 1.512500000


    sample_mean[2] := 1.668333333

    > s[1]:=describe[standarddeviation](sample[1]);
    > s[2]:=describe[standarddeviation](sample[2]);
    >

    s[1] := .1503121752


    s[2] := .1671742272

    > n[1]:=8;
    > n[2]:=6;
    >

    n[1] := 8


    n[2] := 6

    > s[p]:=sqrt(((n[1]-1)*s[1]^2+(n[2]-1)*s[2]^2)/(n[1]+n[2]-2));
    >

    s[p] := .1575574925

    > t:=simplify((sample_mean[1]-sample_mean[2])/(s[p]*sqrt((1/n[1])+(1/n[2]))));
    >

    t := -1.831377608

    > alpha:=0.10;
    >

    alpha := .10

    > alpha/2;
    >

    .05000000000

    > degrees_of_freedom:=n[1]+n[2]-2;

    degrees_of_freedom := 12

    >

    |t| = 1.831377608 > 1.782 = t[0.05,12] = t[alpha/2,degrees of freedom].

    The null hypothesis was that the two means were equal. The null hypothesis must be rejected. If I recall correctly, we can say with 90% confidence that the mean gold content of both locations is not equal.
    5291) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 787676)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope.
    Not anymore.
    And maybe they never did.
    LOL.
    5292) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 787657)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please provide data.




    http://www.davince.com/download/kjvbible.pdf

    Genesis {31:54}, {46:1}

    Exodus {3:18}, {5,3}, {5,8},{5,17}, {8,8}, {8,25}, {8:26}, {8:26}, {8:28}, {8,29}, {10:25}, {12:27}, {13:15}, {18:12}, {20:24}, {22:20}, {23:18}, {24:5}, {29:28}, {30:9}, {32:7}, {34:15,}, {34:25}

    Leviticus {1:3}, {1:9}, {1:10}, {1:13}, {1:14}, {1:17}, {3:1}, {3:3}, {3:5}, {3:6}, {3:9}, {4,10}, {4:26}, {4:31}, {4:35}, {7:11}, {7:12}, {7:13}, {7:15}, {7:16}, {7:17}, {7:18}, {7:20}, {7:21}, {7:28}, {7:29}, {7:32}, {7:34}, {7:37}, {8:21}, {9:3}, {9:4}

    Petty tired now. You get the idea.


    I'm too lazy to go upstairs and pick up one of my Bible's.
    I'm too lazy to go to a site you didn't link, and lazier still to look up the chapters and verses you have not linked.



    I guess I'm asking the people who are actually willing and able to discuss the topic, Sarge.


    .


    I guess you haven't asked anything. You said you were wondering about something and provided absolutely no elaboration.
    How about I say this? "Yeah, so, ummm ... I was wonderin' 'bout dem stars. How 'bout 'em?"
    It's like that one episode on Cheers when Cliff thought he could be a stand up comedian. "Drinking and driving? What's up with THAT?" (Slaps knees, just like at the end of every joke, which also ended in "What's up with that?") (Lights come up, only Norm is still there.)
    5293) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787618)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you comparing a mid air, high altitude explosion / re entry burn up, to a ground impact?


    .


    Come on, now.
    You know the point was that the field of vision of those cameras was extremely limited.


    The released videos for public consumption was even more limited. Why is that and where is the debris? I asked where the planes were not what the limits of the cameras were.

    Truth is nobody knows the limits of those cameras because the FBI took and buried the videos.

    No cameras at the field where flight 93 supposedly crashed.

    Where are the planes?


    .


    OK, you keep looking for a plane in a 12 foot wide section. Good luck.
    5294) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787615)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    for comparison:
    This discusses the size of debris pieces, witness & government photos as well,
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/debris.html, References DoD briefing.

    also via the same site, crashes into terrain for comparison, only some of which appear to have large intact pieces.
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/compare/jetcrashdebris.html



    Thanks Jason


    Did you read the links he provided?
    5295) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787614)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    for comparison:
    This discusses the size of debris pieces, witness & government photos as well,
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/debris.html, References DoD briefing.

    also via the same site, crashes into terrain for comparison, only some of which appear to have large intact pieces.
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/compare/jetcrashdebris.html


    Nice stuff. But, even there, we don't know the range of views being shown.
    5296) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 787607)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please provide data.




    http://www.davince.com/download/kjvbible.pdf

    Genesis {31:54}, {46:1}

    Exodus {3:18}, {5,3}, {5,8},{5,17}, {8,8}, {8,25}, {8:26}, {8:26}, {8:28}, {8,29}, {10:25}, {12:27}, {13:15}, {18:12}, {20:24}, {22:20}, {23:18}, {24:5}, {29:28}, {30:9}, {32:7}, {34:15,}, {34:25}

    Leviticus {1:3}, {1:9}, {1:10}, {1:13}, {1:14}, {1:17}, {3:1}, {3:3}, {3:5}, {3:6}, {3:9}, {4,10}, {4:26}, {4:31}, {4:35}, {7:11}, {7:12}, {7:13}, {7:15}, {7:16}, {7:17}, {7:18}, {7:20}, {7:21}, {7:28}, {7:29}, {7:32}, {7:34}, {7:37}, {8:21}, {9:3}, {9:4}

    Petty tired now. You get the idea.


    I'm too lazy to go upstairs and pick up one of my Bible's.
    I'm too lazy to go to a site you didn't link, and lazier still to look up the chapters and verses you have not linked.
    5297) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787606)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you comparing a mid air, high altitude explosion / re entry burn up, to a ground impact?


    .


    Come on, now.
    You know the point was that the field of vision of those cameras was extremely limited.
    5298) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787597)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I put away the argument on the word pull long ago,

    Now I ask you where two of the four planes are and you refer back to a single word?

    bobby, bobby, bobby...


    Your the 911 expert. Post some pics in your defense.


    How many square miles was the debris from the 2003 space shuttle Columbia explosion spread over?
    5299) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [12] (Message 787524)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was just wondering about sacrifices and burnt offerings being required by the God of the Bible.

    Has anyone ever worked that one out?


    .












    Please provide data.
    5300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kiity talk (Message 787410)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ground control to Major Mark? Can you hear me? Is this some kind of lark? Do these words come for free? Or, is there a cost? A burden inflicted by The Boss?
    5301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 787408)
    Posted 26 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, it's 2:15 a.m. here.
    I just grabbed my 5 Probability & Statistics related books.
    If no one's tried it by the time I wake up, I'll give this one a shot.
    5302) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787110)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where are the actors involved in this huge conspiracy.

    You ask THIS question, yet you reject 'any theory' other than the 'official theory' which you yourself admittedly disbelieve... ;)

    (That's quite a strange approach to truth seeking.)


    No, it's not.
    One can have doubts in one thing and still (justifiably) say that other theories are not well-supported. Again, Bobby pointed out "integration." Heck, he's pointed out downright contradictions --- again, which was it: missiles, military planes, passenger planes, holograms ... ?
    5303) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787085)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys really going to hang on to that thread of a stronghold, while forgetting all about the rest of the data provided here?

    Side stepping into denial?


    .


    Ad hominem attack.
    I barely read or post in threads like this. It's the first time I ever posted about the phone calls. So, don't you dare accuse me of hanging on to some thread.
    When it comes to denial, buddy, let me tell you something: when a whole bunch of crap befell my family in my youth, repression failed me. I remember a lot more things that happened, and more clearly, than my elder family members. I sought to understand the crap that was happening to my family, just like I seek to understand things today and solve problems if I can. While humans have the natural tendency to repress and deny, these things are very much suppressed in me.
    5304) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787083)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys really going to hang on to that thread of a stronghold, while forgetting all about the rest of the data reprovided here?

    Side stepping into denial.



    :) you're too funny MrGray. GIGO when it comes to much of the data you've provided and reprovided. Throw in the likes of John Lear and the other even more ridiculous theories and well, what hope do you have? It's not the amount of data you provide (and reprovide) it's the quality.

    Are we to believe that the planes were holograms, military planes remote controlled with missiles, regular passenger aircraft? How does one deal with the questions that follow on from anything other than regular passenger aircraft

    If military planes with missiles, what were the missiles for? To bring down the buildings?

    If holograms, how was this achieved, acoustically as well as visually (note the planes were seen for miles before reaching their destinations).

    How does one integrate this data with the notion of controlled demolition? If controlled demolition where's the supporting physical evidence? Eye-witness testimony is all well and good, and you may choose to discredit mine and those I've talked to, but forensics is better.

    Where are the actors involved in this huge conspiracy. Was Silverstein one of them? Where's that evidence of the use of "Pull" as an alternative term for demolition you mentioned back on the 5th that we'd get back to? As this seems to be the only "evidence" the Truthers have when it comes to his involvement.

    If the methods used to bring down the towers in a controlled demolition did not use high explosives, where's the evidence of this having been done elsewhere? If it is thermite (or thermate) seen falling from one corner of one of the twin towers, why is this not seen elswhere? Could a controlled demolition of 4 buildings (WTCs 1, 2 & 7 and the Marriot Hotel) really be started by a single thermite/thermate "charge" at one corner of one floor in one of the towers?

    &c., &c., &c.


    Thanks, Bobby. You have nailed one or two things I could not find a way to say.
    First, as you say, which conspiracy is it to be? Missiles, military planes, passenger planes, holograms, so on and so forth? (How about all of the above and none all at once?)
    Second, a more global issue, which the first probably falls under: integration. Excellent way to put it!!!
    Now, you've mentioned eyewitness testimony. I wasn't going to say anything, but you've alluded to it. You live in that area, right? How long have you been there? If there in 9/2001, did you see some of what was going on?
    5305) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 787051)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm reading the one at democraticwarrior right now, Bobby.
    Now, my Dad re-married in 1994. My step-mother has a brother named Bill, which is also my first name. So, while I do not recall doing so, it's possible in these past 14 years that I've called and said, "Hi ......, this is Bill" noticed she wasn't recognizing my voice for some reason and added in my last name.
    5306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 786995)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The mathematician weighs in with Dominique on this one.
    Fred, your statement about idealization is only true to an extent.
    A well-posed problem would have indeed addressed what has concerned Dominique.
    5307) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 786933)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I wonder how the conspiracy theorists try to explain away people on the flights making phone calls to their loved ones?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ci6Q5B1mWhU&feature=related


    Awww, c'mon! Ya got nothin'? :(


    Me or the Truthers? From what I've seen the Truthers believe that actors made the calls, using high tech voice synthesizers to assist the disguise. As MrGray has noted, one of the callers (Mark Bingham, on United 93) used both his first and last name when calling his mother, this is taken by the Truthers as confirmation that Mark did not make the call, for them no other plausible explanation exists.


    Sorry, Bobby, I meant the "Truthers."
    If a link to a video or article about this Mark Bingham exists, I would like that link provided (or provided again, as the case may be).
    Even then, that is not proof. It might raise some doubts.
    Furthermore, is the source trustworthy? How many of the "Truthers" are doing nothing more than accumulating information from web sources (videos and articles)? How many of them have actually gone out into the field and actually researched this? Was Mark Bingham really on the flight? How do you know? How do you know such a person ever existed? So on and so forth.
    5308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SLI (street light interference) (Message 786921)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ? huh ?

    He's taking the dog for a walk because some people suggested he exercise to get a little more handle on depression. See the other thread.
    5309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 786918)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Orville & Wilbur! Orville & Wilbur!! I am so tired of hearing that no one's made any fundamental improvement of powered flight since Orville & Wilbur!!! I'll show them! I'll show them all!!!"
    5310) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 786917)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I wonder how the conspiracy theorists try to explain away people on the flights making phone calls to their loved ones?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ci6Q5B1mWhU&feature=related


    Awww, c'mon! Ya got nothin'? :(
    5311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression/Depressed (Message 786916)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just guessing, but I think that exercise might go a long way in counteracting depression. I can't run now because my left foot is sore. So at dawn this morning I took my bike to a nearby loop and rode around it 11 times (10 miles) at a good clip (for me).


    I think your right! Im going to start doing my push ups again.


    Get down and give me 20, mister!



    Only 20?


    You're all worthless and weak!

    All will be explained at 5:04.
    5312) Message boards : Number crunching : something odd is going on ... (Message 786911)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this has been going on for some time. That is, boinc trusts any client requesting an initial DL to eventually return something. Obviously this is a bogus assumption; boinc should only download in proportion to work received. So a new client would have to prove its worth by returning a few wu's on-time before getting its full allotment.

    As it is, however, I bet there are a lot of zombie-clients out there slowing down the processing. Is that someting that centralCommand can compute?


    Your're missing the point here... the host i'm talking about did not download a single wu for the past 2 years simply because it was setup with a pre enhanced optimized app...therefor the app_info.xml prevented downloading any enhanced wus...
    That worked properly till 22nd july...


    Thanks for the heads up, cRunchy.
    (Nice to see you in number crunching.)
    I'll turn off my old machines that should not be receiving WUs so they do not dl any!
    BTW, nice new avatar. A bit aggressive for you, though, don't you think?
    5313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 786801)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK here you go...lets see what you do with this...



    The other Smithsonian planes never let poor Chop Chop play in their Smithsonian plane games.
    5314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 786800)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK here you go...lets see what you do with this...



    Joe Elliott, vocalist of Def Leppard, had no clue what lay ahead when he told airplane manufacturers he wanted a plane that looked like his jeans from 1987.
    5315) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The Scientific Method; Academia (Message 786799)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread closed. Thanks.
    5316) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 786797)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What? There are people still on dial-up?

    Calm Chaos: a team where it's ok if you dl and ul your WUs via dial-up.
    5317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression/Depressed (Message 786768)
    Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just guessing, but I think that exercise might go a long way in counteracting depression. I can't run now because my left foot is sore. So at dawn this morning I took my bike to a nearby loop and rode around it 11 times (10 miles) at a good clip (for me).


    I think your right! Im going to start doing my push ups again.


    Get down and give me 20, mister!
    5318) Message boards : Politics : 911 Anomalies (Message 786435)
    Posted 24 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bobby, I wonder how the conspiracy theorists try to explain away people on the flights making phone calls to their loved ones?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ci6Q5B1mWhU&feature=related
    5319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 786402)
    Posted 24 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope Johnney does not mod these folks for spelling his screen name Johnny ... ?

    Good point sarge!. I guess i will have to moderate everybody who spelled my name wrong...LOL :)

    Seriously, thanks to everybody. Glad to take up the challenge.

    Johnney Guinness.


    They're still doing it, Johnney. :)
    5320) Message boards : Politics : Politics board and friends - CLOSED (Message 785928)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angry, angry pints!!

    Pint of "bitter"? :)
    5321) Message boards : Politics : Politics board and friends - CLOSED (Message 785904)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since Rush and I seem to get along (agree on some things and disagree on others) on the forums during the day, can we get in arguments over a pint or two?
    5322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 785890)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not bad at all Sarge and Hev ;) This is always a great thread to come to when you need a bit of inspiration.

    The thing is, it's my own.
    I'm just not as prolific as Daniel.
    5323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 785843)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulations!

    A question for our new moderator. Does everyone whose name is Guinness write it with ß or ßs for the double ss like we see on Guinness bottles? Will you be enforcing this as a new forum rule?


    Must be a "other side of the pond thing."

    I don't think we see the Germanic capital-B-like symbol for the double s on the bottles here n the States.
    (Interesting to look at documents such as The Declaration of Independence or The Constitution and see the symbol used, though.
    5324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 785819)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope Johnney does not mod these folks for spelling his screen name Johnny ... ?
    5325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 785724)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So who nominated Johnney?

    I think we gotta offer up a round for that too.

    Congrats Johnney!


    His name probably came up 13 months ago or so.
    5326) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 785597)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Before another hour passes ... .

    Join us.

    Calm Chaos.
    5327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Life Explained.... (Message 785595)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I already have all the answers... even the ones I don't particularly like... ;)

    "I am Legend."
    5328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Another New Moderator (Message 785593)
    Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome, Johnney (and Uli)!
    5329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 785517)
    Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Marble Thinker

    Truth -
    permeates our existence.
    Falsehood -
    hinders our persistence.
    What will you offer up
    in resistance?
    Will you swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time,
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to sell ya -
    It's called
    propaganda.
    Truth rearranged,
    money's exchanged.
    Truth become lies, bought.
    Never given a second thought.

    We -
    are watching from the fence.
    Watching
    them fight for the defense.
    Just takes a few thousand dollars,
    for them to put a spin on the evidence.
    Will we swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to tell ya -
    could it be
    they have an agenda?
    It's all perception.
    If there are two sides to every story,
    is there no such thing as deception?
    Artful depiction -
    leaving only one choice for the jury ...
    Not enough evidence for conviction.

    Truth -
    "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said.
    Falsehood -
    is what we keep getting fed.
    I will offer up
    a fight until I'm dead.
    No, I won't swallow it -
    hook, line & sinker.
    I define the fine line
    between an open mind & a marble thinker.

    So awkward and out of place -
    I see
    you're charmed by my smiling face.
    Put me on the stand -
    raise my right hand.
    Of course, you believe me.
    "He couldn't be lying, could he?"

    Sarge: October, 1994.
    5330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Life Explained.... (Message 785496)
    Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that you custodiet the Custodes from within, does this mean we must watch this video?
    5331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Moderator (Message 785242)
    Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulations, Uli. If you and Champ just concentrate on keeping all the wild threads in German under control, the rest of the mods will have a very easy time.



    Yeah, the crazy Germans. LOL


    Warum sagst du das?!?
    5332) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 785139)
    Posted 21 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Calm Chaos, where Australians in the Bush can chat with team-mates in the country "run" by Bush.
    5333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression/Depressed (Message 785135)
    Posted 21 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who?

    Is on first.
    5334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Classic (Message 784132)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I joined in 1999 and had nothing to do with the Classic forums, let alone had any idea they existed.
    5335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 784131)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More Kobyashi Maru.
    As D heads towards C, C has light. As they pass, C starts walking backwards, but very carefully.
    Again, where is it said there's only one flashlight?
    5336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 784100)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For that question, I will award JD & Jason a 1/2 Point.... Well Done both of you!

    Standings:
    1. Jason Gee - 4 Points
    2. Fred - 1 1/2 Point
    3. The Gas Giant - 1 Point
    4. JDWhale - 1 Point
    5. TBD...

    Question 12 (1 Point) : Four people need to cross a bridge at night. The bridge is only strong enough to hold at most two people at once. Because it is night a flashlight must be used for all crossings. It takes person A ten minutes to cross, person B five minutes, person C two minutes, and person D one minute. If two cross at the same time they must walk at the slower man's pace. How can you get everyone across in 17 minutes?

    Luke.


    Have you indicated there's only one flash light?
    If A or B, then C and D have flash lights, then you could have A and B cross, then C alone, then D alone. C is very heavy, so that's why C and D did not cross at the same time. Kobyashi Maru.
    5337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AriZonaMoon`s web-site + AZM City ,and other relevant inputs ;-) (Message 783821)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's 9:30 a.m. in England.
    What time is it in Norway?
    5338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression/Depressed (Message 783820)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I keep looking for my old friends but I cant find them anywhere.

    I seem to have misplaced my entire generation... not that they were my friends, but still... ;)

    People try to bring ... Jeffrey down.
    Talkin' 'bout ... Jeffrey's generation!
    5339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Depression/Depressed (Message 783799)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny words, yo!
    5340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why do you love Cafe Seti? (Message 783798)
    Posted 18 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Re: who said I did/do?
    5341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why do you love Cafe Seti? (Message 783439)
    Posted 17 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In our microcosm of a society we have loads of interesting characters. And Man, do we ever interact! Most lurkers would tell you we have some real characters around here, stranger than denizens of the deep...amid lots of great regular people, too.


    Here's one of my Seti friends, but I'm not saying who it is. LOL





    I thought I removed all pix of me so SETIzens could not post them.
    5342) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 783019)
    Posted 16 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not Sarge? Don't you think you would be a good PR rep for Calm Chaos?

    Or would you rather KM and the Reaper do the PR?


    I thought KM is the Reaper?!?

    Nah, I don't want the job. Because, then, this thread would turn into one of those threads where only one person from the person posts. That in no way suggests community. :)
    5343) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 782941)
    Posted 16 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon, guys. Keep the thread active. I don't want to be the team's PR rep.!
    5344) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 782790)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With the Cafe and Politics sections now down, I think it is time for all CC members here to join up at our own forums if you haven't already. Come and chat with the team. Just click on the link in my sig (the picture of the Prometheus).

    No pressure guys and girls.

    Anyone else looking for a team or a home, come and check us out...


    Join us, or at least chat with us, at ... http://www.calmchaosonline.com!
    5345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 782662)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now isn't that odd?
    5346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AriZonaMoon`s web-site + AZM City ,and other relevant inputs ;-) (Message 782660)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Drop it? Like it's hot?
    5347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 782574)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    says it all..


    Huh?

    Oh! I'm winning!
    5348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 782572)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apparently, more than one person needed sleep, lol.
    5349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Daily Funnies VII - Closed (Message 782566)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Good stuff. Good stuff.
    Amazing how the oft-rejected Jon is finally given, by the comic author, a g/f.
    5350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 782466)
    Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn, I could only answer yes to 1 and 3. And those happened years ago, as a child, when somehow being woken up from sleep. However, I do recall it happened more than once. That's probably why those memories remain.
    5351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Photo Thread (Message 782321)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Paul, this is wonderful! A photo thread for all. :)
    5352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 782280)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey asked me if I was trying to his comedic position here on the forum. While I did say yes, what I really meant was that is just one more legend. :)
    5353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 782278)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only God/Rush knows, and Rush hasn't struck KM down with lightening, so ... . ;)


    Tsk tsk and you an educated man as well. One presumes you meant Lightning?


    I do believe both spellings are accepted, but I did not bother to double-check in this instance. (I have checked on judgment versus judgement and, IIRC, both are accepted in that case as well.)
    5354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I AM NOT A GOD! (Message 782276)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "In place of a dark Admin you would have a harmless little fuzzball named Rush, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn, treacherous as the sea, stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love me and despair!" --El Rushbo, Harmless Fuzzball and LL.M Student Extraordinaire.

    For those of you that have problems with quotes from fictional characters, please do not read the preceding paragraph.


    Apparently, this is the correct thread.


    See? Don't post in incorrect threads.
    5355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 782198)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you seen Windsor Castle?
    No?
    Nor have I.

    Not much of a traveler...

    But, if you were, you could take lots of photos, with a thread dedicated to each and every place of so-called interest.
    5356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I AM NOT A GOD! (Message 782194)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "In place of a dark Admin you would have a harmless little fuzzball named Rush, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn, treacherous as the sea, stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love me and despair!" --El Rushbo, Harmless Fuzzball and LL.M Student Extraordinaire.

    For those of you that have problems with quotes from fictional characters, please do not read the preceding paragraph.


    Apparently, this is the correct thread.
    5357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BSG (Message 782192)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kara Thrace is [or, was? :) ] the Harbinger of Death.
    5358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 782191)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you seen Windsor Castle?
    No?
    Nor have I.
    5359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Got a new Kitten(It just showed up) (Message 782190)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How is it going with the foundling Hiamps?

    See http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=48002&nowrap=true#780449.
    5360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 782187)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    5361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : German Cafe (Message 782186)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich denke alle diese Gewinde, die einem man' eingeweiht; s-Fotographie sind ärgerlich. Es ist Spam. Denken Sie so auch?
    5362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where the Hell is Matt? (Message 782182)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just something a little different. Not our Matt by the way.

    Where the Hell is Matt?

    or on YouTube


    Influx positron!
    5363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Phoenix Lights (Message 782180)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They still sell that magazine?
    5364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 782177)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only God/Rush knows, and Rush hasn't struck KM down with lightening, so ... . ;)
    5365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AriZonaMoon`s web-site + AZM City ,and other relevant inputs ;-) (Message 782175)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great mini-city!
    5366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Phoenix Lights (Message 782033)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They are unidentified.
    5367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 782031)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So nice
    the cafes
    I visit.
    Iced tea, without the ice.
    Please. It's cold enough already. Now, no more delays.
    The rhythm may be lacking, but it rhymed, didn't it?
    5368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 782027)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice to see you Moon, evenso it is late for you. How about a little Baileys?

    Beetle Bailey?
    5369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I AM A GOD! (Message 782026)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For a week, Rush and rationality ruled.
    5370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 781995)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Angela may not be modded.
    5371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 781994)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is sleepy time for me...Gotta go back to work in 3 hours.

    It's dawn and i just got hioeme!

    She was at her sistener's.

    no no no. I was at a club with my sitsnet!

    The Sistntne CLub closes at 3 a.m.
    5372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 781989)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is sleepy time for me...Gotta go back to work in 3 hours.

    It's dawn and i just got hioeme!

    She was at her sistener's.
    5373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 781979)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since all numerators and denominators are rational (yes, even the 3.4), then unless it terminated, of course it would have to repeat.
    5374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Phoenix Lights (Message 781978)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, not according to one movie I saw.
    But, it seemed to be a feel-good, new-agey movie thingy.
    5375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : *****BEETHOVEN'S CAFE XV***** - Closed for Renovations (Message 781945)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets!
    5376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 781944)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi SE and everyone else. Yep it was rather involuntary, but never mind we are back now.

    At least for a little while until the next outage.

    Outage?
    5377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AriZonaMoon`s web-site + AZM City ,and other relevant inputs ;-) (Message 781943)
    Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's it going, Moon?
    5378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 781906)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    5379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm Rich! (Message 781904)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gotta love that spam mail from NIgeria, eh?
    5380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I AM A GOD! (Message 781902)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "In place of a dark Admin you would have a harmless little fuzzball named Rush, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn, treacherous as the sea, stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love me and despair!" --El Rushbo, Project Admin and Scientist Extraordinaire.

    For those of you that have problems with quotes from fictional characters, please do not read the preceding paragraph.


    OK, Galadriel. :)
    5381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AriZonaMoon`s web-site + AZM City ,and other relevant inputs ;-) (Message 781898)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Population
    148

    Revenues
    30450 €

    Unemployment
    0 %
    Transport
    100 %
    Crime rate
    0 %
    Pollution
    0 %
    5382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 781897)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Armageddon is just a conspiracy theory.

    Only time will tell... ;)

    Time is a myth.
    5383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 781896)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's to ya! :)
    5384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Smoking cessation......and digital cameras (Message 781895)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's the smoking cessation coming along?
    5385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the Kitty People IV...... (Message 781894)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How are the kitties doing lately?
    5386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#66 - joint winners were MUMPS & DUNE (Message 781893)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    5387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Phoenix Lights (Message 781863)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The Phoenix Lights.
    In Arizona.
    5388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 781695)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    -Athletes & the Paranormal- ????

    I wondered how they could run so fast


    If you saw dead people/ghosts or UFOs, wouldn't you run, run away, as fast as you could?
    5389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 781450)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah thank you. I'll get in quick before seti goes down again :) See what you all can do with this:



    "To heck with porridge, I'm testing out this slide!"

    [PM me if I win.]
    5390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 781449)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

    Fri 07.11 >>
    First Hour: Researcher and lecturer Dr. Nick Begich will talk about the threat of an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack on America.
    Open Lines

    Sat 07.12 >>
    Alex Abella
    -RAND Corporation-
    alexabella.com

    6-10pm PT: Art Bell Somewhere in Time: 7/16/97
    Evelyn Paglini
    -Witchcraft-
    Sun 07.13 >>
    Maria Coffey
    -Athletes & the Paranormal-
    hiddenplaces.net
    Host: Ian Punnett
    Mon 07.14 >>
    Ken Hanson
    -Gabriel Tablet-
    website
    Tue 07.15 >>
    Ronald Mallett
    -Time Travel-
    physics.uconn.edu
    Wed 07.16 >>
    Diane Morang
    -Other Dimensions, Hell, & Science-
    Book Link
    Thu 07.17 >>
    David Blume
    -Alcohol Based Fuels-
    permaculture.com
    5391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 12 ) (Message 781447)
    Posted 12 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    will take up where Zecharia Sitchin left off

    The End of Days: Armageddon and Prophecies of the Return ~Zecharia Sitchin... ;)

    Armageddon is just a conspiracy theory.
    5392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems II (Message 779883)
    Posted 6 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    30, 60, 120
    5393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778933)
    Posted 5 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, folks, there's still time to wish those in the Mountain and Pacific time zones a Happy Fourth of July! :)
    5394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778806)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy 4th!!!

    You too!
    5395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 778797)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For ease of expression, x is not the distance from the starting point to the place where the racer cuts into the water. It is the distance from the point where the trip would be along perpendicular segments back to the cutting point.

    f := ((4-x)/6) + sqrt(1+x^2) = 2/3-1/6*x+1/2*sqrt(1+x^2)

    f[prime] := -1/6+1/2/(1+x^2)^(1/2)*x

    -1/6+1/2/(1+x^2)^(1/2)*x = 0

    1/2/(1+x^2)^(1/2)*x = 1/6

    3*x = sqrt(1+x^2)

    9*x^2 = 1+x^2

    8*x^2 = 1

    x^2 = 1/8

    (Obviously, a negative answer for x is undesired.)

    x = 1/4*sqrt(2)

    Thus, the answer is 4-1/4*sqrt(2), or approximately 3.646446610 ... .

    [EDIT: Note f[prime,prime] = -1/2/(1+x^2)^(3/2)*x^2+1/2/(1+x^2)^(1/2). Substituting x results in 8/27*sqrt(2) > 0, indicating x really minimizes the function f.]
    5396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778454)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eric has an excellent sense of humor!

    If he didn't, I'd probably be out of business... ;)

    Or in foreclosure.

    Misfit was sexy those 5 minutes he was queen.
    5397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778452)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know it! :)
    5398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Eric Korpela... (Message 778340)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you all. I will raise a glass of ale to you all this evening. If I can raise it with my feeble old-man arms.

    How old are you now? 50? :P
    5399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778308)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You SOOO have a crush on Rush. But Rush has a crush on Obama.

    He tried out for "Obama Girl" but was nudged out by the competition.

    HEY! What are you doing here? I used my hidden moderator tag to initiate a ban vote on you!

    Ooooops. Sorry.

    Forgiven.
    5400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778307)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    (Oops, wrong thread.)
    5401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778305)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Liberate them, I say!
    5402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778303)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well-done, Dune!
    5403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778302)
    Posted 4 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:





    Nice! :)
    5404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778270)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You SOOO have a crush on Rush. But Rush has a crush on Obama.

    He tried out for "Obama Girl" but was nudged out by the competition.

    HEY! What are you doing here? I used my hidden moderator tag to initiate a ban vote on you!
    5405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778264)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm ... too sexy for my monacle
    too sexy for my monacle
    so sexy
    yeah.
    5406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778260)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon, Dune, where are the balloons, already? :)
    5407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778259)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, indeedy.
    Last night, I was dressed in drag on S@H, for I was briefly a queen.

    You looked fabulous darling.

    Oh, I knoooooooowwww.
    5408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778255)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, indeedy.
    Last night, I was dressed in drag on S@H, for I was briefly a queen.
    5409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 778253)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Ukraine.
    5410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778249)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Yes. I would like to say a big thank you to Eric for having a good sense of humor.

    btw. Happy birthday Eric!


    Eric has an excellent sense of humor! I laughed when I read what he wrote to me about that little exercise! ;-D

    And I really loved to see the little fuzzball Rush



    with those funky tags!




    You SOOO have a crush on Rush. But Rush has a crush on Obama.


    I don't care, I'm not jealous.



    Obama vs. Hollynoodles, 2008.
    Who will carry the red states?
    5411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy 4th of July to everyone else (Message 778235)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whether you're in the USA or wish to celebrate Independence Day elsewhere in the world.

    My new avatar says nothing.
    5412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Queen of SETI?? (Message 778234)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Yes. I would like to say a big thank you to Eric for having a good sense of humor.

    btw. Happy birthday Eric!


    Eric has an excellent sense of humor! I laughed when I read what he wrote to me about that little exercise! ;-D

    And I really loved to see the little fuzzball Rush



    with those funky tags!




    You SOOO have a crush on Rush. But Rush has a crush on Obama.
    5413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 778221)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Height of one of the triangles (not the tetrahedron): sqrt(1^2-(1/2)^2) = 1/2*sqrt(3)

    Area of one of the triangles: (1/2)*1*(1/2*sqrt(3)) = 1/4*sqrt(3)

    Volume of the tetrahedron: (1/3) * Area of triangular base * Height of tetrahedron = (1/3) * (1/4*sqrt(3)) * Height of tetrahedron

    Equilateral triangle, so altitudes are the same as medians.
    Medians are concurrent.
    Split 2 by 1.

    Height of tetrahedron: sqrt((1/2*sqrt(3))^2-((1/3)*(1/2*sqrt(3)))^2) = 1/3*sqrt(6)

    Volume = (1/3) * (1/4*sqrt(3)) * 1/3*sqrt(6) = (1/36) sqrt(18) = sqrt(2) / 12, which is approximately 0.1178511302.

    (This is, of course, under the assumption that Luke meant a regular tetrahedron.)
    5414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Volunteer tester tag..... (Message 778101)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah nuts, I'm still a mod :(

    My tag's hidden. :P

    Operation Ban Dune Again commencing.
    5415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Volunteer tester tag..... (Message 778032)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah nuts, I'm still a mod :(

    My tag's hidden. :P
    5416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Volunteer tester tag..... (Message 778007)
    Posted 3 Jul 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ooooh. Look at all these shiny buttons. Let's see. Whose ban vote should I initiate first?
    5417) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 763245)
    Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello!

    I'm currently looking to join a team and was pointed in your direction.

    I'm currently running Seti@home on 7 computers (two P4 2.4GHz, one Celeron 2.4GHz, one AMD64 dual-core FX, one AMD +2400, one AMD +1800, and finally one P3-800), however I am looking to expand to 9 total computers by the end of the month (one Gateway Xeon dual-processor server a college threw out, and one P3-900 HP Laptop that I just got a new HDD for). I'm also thinking about expanding to other projects.

    I am from the Red River Valley in North Dakota and I am an amateur optical astronomer and beginning radio astronomer (more info here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=47438

    If you are interested in having me on your team, let me know!

    Clear Skies,
    -B


    Join us!
    5418) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 763133)
    Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's it going, team?
    5419) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Looking for Upper-Midwest Team (Message 763132)
    Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A team created by someone in the upper mid-west.
    5420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : One word to describe Seti@Home Project (Message 763011)
    Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Project

    Not the forums.
    5421) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 762954)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    ...but apparently you cannot tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand and someone who really just doesn't care

    Actually. Yes I can. A lot of times the two things go hand in hand.


    ...and it might actually come true if you say it enough, huh?

    You'd know all about that wouldn't you?


    Why, yes.
    Yes, I would.

    Why, yes.
    Yes, I would.

    Why, yes.
    Yes, I would.

    Why, yes.
    Yes, I would.
    5422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : X-Files 2 (Message 762952)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I want to believe"
    that that sig used to say mod, not mad.
    5423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#64 - UNDER DEMOLITION & RECONSTRUCTION as Champ Won (Message 762912)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which would win in a fight between Schroedinger's Cat and Pavlov's Dog?

    If that's not a saying already, you should copyright it. :)
    5424) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 762895)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was sagst du??
    5425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 762853)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poot...

    5426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#64 - UNDER DEMOLITION & RECONSTRUCTION as Champ Won (Message 762852)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello everyone.

    Albert! You're alive.
    How's the theory of special relativity faring?
    5427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 762850)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the Alpha Male thread has indeed returned.
    5428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#64 - UNDER DEMOLITION & RECONSTRUCTION as Champ Won (Message 762839)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New BLOOD?
    5429) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 762814)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, I missed a lot of....nothing.

    Pay attention! They're Racoons!



    Racoons ? I thought KM said they were Wombats


    Here we go again...


    There you go again.
    5430) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 762644)
    Posted 4 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, I missed a lot of....nothing.

    Pay attention! They're Racoons!
    5431) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 762443)
    Posted 3 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hush Sarge... before they quarentine us all.

    Crunchers, meet MzSnowLeopard, our AI bot that is a prodigious writer. :)



    Who you calling an AI ?

    Join calm Chaos... 100 % human


    Most of us anyway. Not too sure about KM and TL.



    Time Lords have two hearts and regenerate... Definitely not human; though, we look human.



    More human than human?
    5432) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 762135)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Andy Rooney is an idiot.

    Sorry all Andy Rooney fans. He simply doesn't have a clue!


    Just to clarify what made me start this thread: there was nothing good on the History Channel at the time and I just happened to leave the TV on CBS and caught parts of 60 Minutes.

    (The History Channel is one of the few channels I can watch anymore.)
    5433) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 762134)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My bad, by Germanic I assumed you meant the Anglo-Saxon roots, of which there are plenty, I've heard that Churchill's "We will fight them ..." would be, to a large degree, comprehensible to the original 1500 anglo-saxon settlers.


    I meant any way in which Germanic languages have influenced the English language.
    And, more generally, the evolution of languages, including English itself.

    But, speaking of the Anglo-Saxons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons

    Old English, sometimes called Anglo-Saxon, was the language spoken under Alfred the Great and continued to be the common language of England (non-Danelaw) until after the Norman Conquest of 1066 when, under the influence of the Anglo-Norman language spoken by the Norman ruling class, it changed into Middle English roughly between 1150–1500.

    Old English is far closer to early Germanic than Middle English. It is less Latinized and retains many morphological features (nominal and verbal inflection) that were lost during the 12th to 14th centuries. The languages today which are closest to Old English are the Frisian languages, which are spoken by a few hundred thousand people in the northern part of the Netherlands and Germany.
    5434) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 762095)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you know French and Latin you can see the Norman and Romance influences --about 50-50 I would say on origins of English words--so we double up here since we have an evolved, non-native language in English.

    French, being one of the Romance languages, comes from Latin. Correct?
    And nothing was said about the very strong influence of the Germanic on the English language.


    Or the norse, I think we get "egg" from them.


    Indeed:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egg


    Main Entry:
    1egg Listen to the pronunciation of 1egg
    Pronunciation:
    \\ˈeg, ˈāg\\
    Function:
    transitive verb
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Old Norse eggja; akin to Old English ecg edge — more at edge
    Date:
    13th century

    : to incite to action —usually used with on<egged the mob on to riot>


    However:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse

    Old Norse is the North Germanic language that was spoken by inhabitants of Scandinavia and inhabitants of their overseas settlements during the Viking Age, until about 1300.

    It evolved from the older Proto-Norse, in the 8th century and evolved into the modern North Germanic languages after the Viking Age.


    Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Old_Norse_origin. I wonder if that is supposed to be a complete list.
    5435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : forum5.com is down (Message 762091)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back up now. Until they can get it running properly, I suggest they rename it...Yoyo.com.

    lol
    5436) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 762072)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you know French and Latin you can see the Norman and Romance influences --about 50-50 I would say on origins of English words--so we double up here since we have an evolved, non-native language in English.

    French, being one of the Romance languages, comes from Latin. Correct?
    And nothing was said about the very strong influence of the Germanic on the English language.
    5437) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 761918)
    Posted 2 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is certainly one of the hardest to learn and master as the spelling rules are so full of exceptions.

    I think that's one con right there, which I agree with: the spelling exceptions.
    Other cons?
    Pros?
    5438) Message boards : Politics : Andy Rooney on the English Language (Message 761857)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He just said, on 60 Minutes, that it is the "best language in the world." Seriously.

    Have at it, debaters.
    5439) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761837)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AI bots, form of synergistic boinc'ing!
    5440) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761816)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Er, Muskoka.
    5441) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761815)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello, SETI.USA and Team Musako!
    5442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 761797)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Waaah, David Letterman's better than me (Conan O'Brien) at self-deprecation!"
    5443) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761727)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How did England get on top?
    AI bots, form of posters that post every 1/2 hour!
    5444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 761724)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Waaah, my post was called obscene."
    5445) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761562)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You think I've rested up already? Ha!
    5446) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761551)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AI bots, form of a "team recruitment bump!"


    You teaching this summer Sarge?


    Bot says doing something.
    5447) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761549)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AI bots, form of a "team recruitment bump!"
    5448) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761534)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos. 100% human. We think.
    5449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : clubseti.com (Message 761533)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many of you peeps are on the clubseti.com community?

    James


    42.
    5450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 761508)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Jeffrey.

    This picture just "spoke" to me...

    I will announce a winner Monday night around 8pm, Berkeley time.





    "Typical reaction when finding the winner is no longer the winner and the snausages have been taken away."
    5451) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761505)
    Posted 1 Jun 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    None of us are actually in space, but we do have some pretty cool frog pads.

    Join Calm Chaos!
    5452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 761491)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Jeffrey.
    This picture just "spoke" to me...
    I will announce a winner Monday night around 8pm, Berkeley time.



    Dr. Bruce Murray of Auburn University gets a strange reaction when suggesting to the child they read a bedtime story.
    5453) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 761395)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Women have been dying through childbirth for thousands of years. Child birth is NOT safe.

    Statically speaking, it is, otherwise the human population would be on the decline rather than increasing exponentially.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=birth+dangerous&fr=fptb-msgr&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
    5454) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761383)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stars on fire,
    find planets round 'em,
    pick up signals from 'em,
    don't call us liars.

    World BOINCing!
    The world's joining ...
    Calm Chaos.
    5455) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761329)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hush Sarge... before they quarentine us all.

    Crunchers, meet MzSnowLeopard, our AI bot that is a prodigious writer. :)
    5456) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761170)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Calm Chaos, the team that only slightly minds off-topic posts and doesn't care if you're a bot. (Yeah, we believe AI is actually quite advanced, but the government is covering it up and stuff. LOL!)
    5457) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 761038)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos
    Don't worry, we don't bite, trust me.

    Except for you? LOL! Kidding.
    5458) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The Scientific Method; Academia (Message 761037)
    Posted 31 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The impetus for this thread are certain posts from the "Planet X Discovered" thread.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=47070&nowrap=true#753171 (Taurus) and ... well, the other posts that you know were made. For example, some posts by my friend Knightmare. So, for example, Taurus and KM, I'd like to see that conversation continue here. Perhaps candorchasma might wish to join us in this conversation.
    5459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kitty folks, UNITE............ (Message 760943)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well Sarge....the simple fact that you feel a need to talk about 'kitty threads' means one of a few things.......

    Either you have nothing else to complain about, or you are speaking on behalf of somebody who does.......


    Wrong and wrong. Who's the one complaining about something here? Certainly not me. It is as simple as my original post: I told you others were complaining about it 6-7 months ago.

    Now, since you are continuing to post in a confrontational manner and not heeding my suggestion, it is I that will take a break.

    Either way......this is a non-issue.....unless you want to pick up on some other issue to complain about......it happens to be a common topic in the cafe......and involves many other users.......I am not the only one here talking about cats..........look at the number of reads to the threads....and the responses.......I do not generate the replies.............................


    (Included in the post because obviously you haven't read a single word, or at least understood, in my previous post in this thread. Have a nice night and don't shoot too many turkeys.)
    5460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kitty folks, UNITE............ (Message 760897)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You received the PM now? People have been talking about it for months, Mark, and I told you.


    Sarge....although I respect your opinions....I do not agree with them, nor do many others.....

    Don't tread on me....thank you.


    And that's the problem, right there.

    First, I did not tread on you. (Nor cats, for that matter, as I will not trash the memory of our family cat, Lilly, part of our lives for 17 years from 1974 to 1991.)
    Second, due to either absurd responses or absurd policies, sometimes a point must be expressed in a veiled manner. Do you REALLY think I was suggesting recently that long threads cause a drain on the S@H servers, making it hard for Eric and company to find ETI? Ha! Take a DEEPER look at what I say (well, most of what I say --- sometimes, it really is just humor) before talking about whether you or the community at large agree with my opinions.
    Third, my opinions are not the issue here. I told you around Thanksgiving that people were complaining about your kitty threads. This was truthfully stated and has nothing whatsoever to do with my opinions.
    Fourth, I am sure the people complaining about the kitty threads are now either grousing over the fact that you have begun another one or sitting back having a laugh as you react to it as if it is some sort of crisis.
    Finally, if you really thought you were being "tread on," I do think you need at least a few hours worth of a break from posting (perhaps reading, as well) from the boards.
    5461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kitty folks, UNITE............ (Message 760856)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You received the PM now? People have been talking about it for months, Mark, and I told you.
    5462) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Starving Those in Poor Countries!! (Message 760844)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why don't you just give it to them for free? Why don't you just feed the entire world for free? [snip]
    Can you see why you don't? If you can see why you don't, you can see why they don't.

    I don't because I can barely afford to feed myself... What's your excuse? ;)

    Isn't that one of his points?
    Next, how do you know he does not, in fact, act charitably? Hmmm?

    Can anyone who thinks only in an egotistic, profit-orientated way ever act charitably? I doubt that.
    Even those rich people who spend money and stuff do it only to improve their image and get more customers. Such acting is not charitable, imo.

    This is not zen.
    5463) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Starving Those in Poor Countries!! (Message 760819)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why don't you just give it to them for free? Why don't you just feed the entire world for free? [snip]
    Can you see why you don't? If you can see why you don't, you can see why they don't.

    I don't because I can barely afford to feed myself... What's your excuse? ;)

    Isn't that one of his points?
    Next, how do you know he does not, in fact, act charitably? Hmmm?
    5464) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Starving Those in Poor Countries!! (Message 760785)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those people in poor countries oughta be convinced to wait to have kids and not have more than two. Sure, God said "Be fruitful and multiply" but we've already done that 60 times in the past 2,000 years. Isn't that enough? The problem is convincing them. As far as the younger workers supporting retirees for finances there's a very good substitute for that, too - saving.

    Clyde, that's quite an assumption hidden in there. How many of these people are "multiplying" because they are Jews, Christians or Muslims trying to respect the exhortation to "be fruitful"?


    Don't Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same God, but just call Him by another name? I just have a feeling that many people, especially the uneducated, think that it's "religious" or "doing a favor to God" to have large families. Maybe, instead, it's doing the world a disfavor by causing more starvation, filth and deaths. Maybe it's breaking one of God's Commandments by "killing" (indirectly). I watch Univisión, a local Spanish TV channel around here and often I see people, especially girls and women, "hold in awe" or "worship" the slightest imaginable human figure on a tree, in a rock, or in a condensation pattern on a (church) window and then call it "God", "Jesus", "Mary", etc. What superstition! Why can't that figure be Hugo Chávez, their brother or a girl working in the garden?


    You've missed the point.
    The point is, a large percentage of the people with large families these days may be those that either follow a faith not part of the three I mentioned or even no faith at all.
    5465) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 760734)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People as a whole simply do NOT hate the USA. What they detest is the arrogance of American politicians who serve only to promote their US business interests and their own pockets. The US has got about as far from the tenets of its founding fathers as it is possible to go.

    Stop feeling hated and start listening for a change. Learn something about other societies and religions. Stop manufacturing terrorists where none existed by using sledgehammers to crack nuts. Recognise that Forest Gump was a satire on the last 60 years of American life and attitudes and adopt a little humility to go along with your awesome power.

    People like me have a huge fund of good will towards the US but that fund is not bottomless and your apparent collective belief that "the American Way" is the only way simply has to change. Please realise that most of the world simply cannot and will not live that way. That does not make them your enemies and they might even make good friends.

    In other words, grow up. The world is not not your playpen.

    Well said!
    Amen!


    Ahem. Please read the discussion that followed, as well, Thorin.
    5466) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The Scientific Method; Academia (Message 760732)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Over several months and several threads, questions have been raised about how we come to know, such as through the scientific method.
    Separate from the method are the people that do or do not employ it. What is the life of a scientist like, some wonder. Or, perhaps some are wondering how trustworthy scientists are?

    This thread should stick closely to these two topics: the scientific method and the scientists themselves.

    I'll share my thoughts later. For now, I'd like those of you with questions to ask them. What precisely are your concerns with the scientific method, for example?

    (BTW, I've noticed some of the people with questions or concerns about the scientific method are the same ones that have pointed out many times the issue of S@H WUs not being analyzed. Is there a contradiction here?)
    5467) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 760515)
    Posted 30 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crunch for the team with people that got to see Carl Sagan speak in person! :)
    5468) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Planet X discovered? (Message 760382)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And you are assuming that I'm not an academic? Try again, bunky.

    Bunky?
    Look, I know someone else that tried to make similar claims is not in academia, so my previous post was quite justified.
    5469) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Starving Those in Poor Countries!! (Message 760356)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many of these people are "multiplying" because they are Jews, Christians or Muslims trying to respect the exhortation to "be fruitful"?

    'Be fruitful and multiply' was updated in the new testament to 'you will be persecuted' and 'stay single if you can'... ;)

    (Of course, the hypocrites have a different take on this, which, I suppose, is the reason why they are called hypocrites.)


    I've already noted in another thread how you've taken Paul to heart.
    5470) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 760355)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We will not assimilate you.
    5471) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 760354)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's time for a new genesis!
    5472) Message boards : Number crunching : The kitties will not be crunching Seti for a bit............ (Message 760346)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll still be on the forums...


    You sure you'll have enough RAC to post? LOL



    I think I have enough for a couple of weeks yet.....LOL.


    It took about 2-3 months for an RAC of at best 1200 to sink to a point where it was too low to post.
    5473) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Starving Those in Poor Countries!! (Message 760340)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Those people in poor countries oughta be convinced to wait to have kids and not have more than two. Sure, God said "Be fruitful and multiply" but we've already done that 60 times in the past 2,000 years. Isn't that enough? The problem is convincing them. As far as the younger workers supporting retirees for finances there's a very good substitute for that, too - saving.

    Clyde, that's quite an assumption hidden in there. How many of these people are "multiplying" because they are Jews, Christians or Muslims trying to respect the exhortation to "be fruitful"?
    5474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 760337)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, I've got work for the other as well.
    The center of the circular table is the origin. The equation for the edge of the table is x^2 + y^2 = r^2. Therefore, the equations for the walls it is flush to can be described as x = r and y = r.

    sqrt((x - r)^2 + (r - r)^2) = 5; i.e., sqrt((x - r)^2) = 5.
    So, similarly, sqrt((y - r)^2) = 10.

    sqrt(a^2) = a or -a. Thus:

    x - r = 5 or -5 and
    y - r = 10 or -10, so

    x = r + 5 or x = r - 5 and
    y = r + 10 and y = r - 10.

    This gives us four possibilities to look at. (Both addition, both subtraction, or a mix, in either order.) Substitute into the formula for the edge of the table.

    For example, solve (r + 5)^2 + (r + 10)^2 = r^2.

    Now, it's not the algebraic work that is necessarily the issue. The set-up is as important, if not more so. So, I am not going to demonstrate here that I can solve quadratic equations.

    We wind up with the following possibilities, most of which are rejected, since r > 0.

    (1) -5, -25
    (2) 5 + 10 * I, 5 - 10 * I
    (3) 25, 5
    (4) -5 + 10 * I, -5 - 10 * I

    Obviously, it is case 3, coming from (r - 5)^2 + (r - 10)^2 = r^2, that yields our two (viable) solutions.

    This is one way to show that there really are only two solutions. When someone posing a problem makes such a claim, it should be verified.
    On the other hand, besides visualization (which allowed me to also see the first solution posted was a correct one), what other approaches could there be to this problem? Algebra is a powerful tool, but solving this problem this way does not give me a feeling of satisfaction in elegance.
    5475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 760307)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now for the calculus point of view:

    Again, we are to maximize z = -kx^2 + 80kx.

    Differentiating and factoring, (dz / dx) = 2 * k *(x - 40). Setting this to zero, for the same reasons mentioned in the previous post, 2 and k cannot be zero, so 0 = x - 40, also leading to an answer of 40 hours, if indeed the critical point produces a maximum rather than a minimum or no information such as what happens when x = 0 when looking at the basic cubic function.

    Either we refer to the way of thinking noted in my previous post, or, if we stick with differential calculus as Luke said would be required, we must use either the first or second derivative test.

    The second derivative of z = -2k. Again, k is positive, so z'' is negative everywhere, including when x = 40, so the critical point really is a maximum.

    On the other hand, using the first derivative test, we must check that the derivative changes from positive to negative in some epsilon-neighborhood of x = 40.

    z' = 2 * k *(x - 40). 2k is always positive. So, we must focus on whether there is a change in x - 40. That one's clear, since anywhere to the left of 40, the line will be below the x-axis and above it to the right.
    5476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 760305)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    looks like the curve peaks at 40 hours on the work problem. The derivative is zero at 40 hours. It is a maximum

    I agree with Bill's answer, but two things.
    First, Luke is incorrect that differential calculus is required to answer this.
    Second, what happened to the explanations portion?

    If x is the number of hours of work and y is the pay, then y = k * x for some positive k because pay is proportional to hours worked. k is obviously positive based on the situation.

    We are to maximize z = y * (80 - x) = k * x * (80 - x) = -kx^2 + 80kx.

    When graphing z(x), we obtain a parabola that opens down. Therefore, there is no question that there is a maximum. It is found precisely at the vertex. The x-coordinate of the vertex can be found using x = -b / (2a), from the standard form z = ax^2 + bx + c.

    x = -b / (2a) = -(80k) / (2 * (-k)) = 40 hours. (Noting earlier that k must be positive, based on the situation, justifies canceling the non-zero k when reducing.)
    5477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 760181)
    Posted 29 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread, not threat.
    5478) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Cooler decade to come (Message 760049)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wonderfully "qualified" folks such as Revs. Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson are now teaming up to make commercials telling us it is the "right" thing to do, to go green.
    So, look out, Michael Crichton! Even some far-righty folks like Robertson won't support the "it's an exaggeration or a hoax!" theory any more.
    5479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 760026)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www2.uol.com.br/cante/lyrics/Bee_Gees_-_Staying_alive.htm

    Staying alive
    (Bee Gees)

    Lyrics:

    Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
    I'm a woman's man, no time to talk.
    Music loud and women warm.
    I've been kicked around since I was born.
    And now it's all right, it's O.K.
    And you may look the other way.
    We can try to understand
    The New York Times' effect on man.
    Whether you're a brother
    Or whether you're a mother,
    You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Feel the city breakin'
    And ev'rybody shakin'
    And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Well now, I get low and I get high
    And if I can't get either I really try.
    Got the wings of heaven on my shoes
    I'm a dancin' man and I just can't lose.
    You know it's all right, it's O.K.
    I'll live to see another day.
    We can try to understand
    The New York Times' effect on man.
    Whether you're a brother
    Or whether you're a mother,
    You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Feel the city breakin'
    And ev'rybody shakin'
    And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Stayin' alive
    Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
    I'm a woman's man, no time to talk.
    Music loud and women warm.
    I've been kicked around since I was born.
    And now it's all right, it's O.K.
    And you may look the other way.
    We can try to understand
    The New York Times' effect on man.
    Whether you're a brother
    Or whether you're a mother,
    You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Feel the city breakin'
    And ev'rybody shakin'
    And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Stayin' alive.
    Ah, ha, ha, ha,
    Stayin' alive.
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Stayin' alive
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Life goin' nowhere.
    Somebody help me, yeah.
    Stayin' alive


    http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu.XyxT1I610BUshXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyNDdwM2w2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0Y5MTlfOTI-/SIG=120kq1vna/EXP=1212094322/**http%3a//www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=7G7ZbhsQsaE

    Dat's right! Imma ladiez man, yo!
    5480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759929)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Misfit....that´s the reason you changed your last pic on your profile?

    Don't know what country you're from but here I celebrate the American holidays and Memorial Day is always a special profile. I've done this every year with most holidays so please follow along.
    By the way: I would increase my donations next year to the SETI Institution in 10 bucks for a real, recent pic of yours!!!!LOL Who offers 11.-???

    Thank you for asking. Now you owe the SETI Institution another $10. And thank you for continuously bolding your comments.


    For your curiosity, I have received a pic of Misfit, the real Misfit, sent from Misfit to me in a personal email, and he's actually a very handsome man. Not anything near that profile pic at all. ;-)

    His wife is very beautiful as well. :-)


    Thanks for advertising that in the SETI Singles thread. I'm sure plenty of single women (and maybe even a few single men) would love to meet the adorable couple. ;)
    5481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 759928)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Methinks it is time for a winner to be selected. Perhaps a PM to the current decidicator is in order?
    5482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759688)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boy o boy, did I open a can of worms or what?

    No, not you.

    To add to cRunchy's post, the previous approach to dealing with things was to sweep disagreements under the rug. Children would then be led to believe that people who crunch for S@H have no disagreements, or they learn nothing about how adults handle internet conflict resolution except through censorship. How awful the idea that adults often need time to hash out their disagreements must seem to some people.
    That said, I will attempt to drop it, so that this thread does not go off-topic. The previous posts do apply since someone tried to insinuate that the thread is "nkf."
    5483) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759646)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9 hours without a post?!? Wake up, fellow Calm Chaos-ians! :)
    5484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759645)
    Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We don't need Matt Lebofsky to tell us that there are people under 18 reading these forums.
    We don't need JM7 to tell us that, either, saying, we can't tell you how we know but rest assured we do.
    Before anybody reacts adversely to this post, read the following:
    Anyone that really pays the slightest bit of attention already knows this to be true!
    "Walla" just started college this year. How long has he been posting? At least 1.5 years.
    Aleksandr from Serbia (whose screen name changes from time to time) is now 18 or 19 and has again been posting here for quite some time.
    "Helsonium" was in his last year of any pre-college/university education either last year or this year. I first noticed posts by Helsonium either last summer or fall.
    A recent post by "Albert Einstein" indicated he is about 16 years old.
    Last, a teacher that posts in this forum has indicated that some textbooks now include info about BOINC (or, at the least, S@H) and the forums.
    I could say more, but I will restrict it to this: the suggestion that this thread is "nkf" is ludicrous. A few posts may deserve to go, but not the thread. Of course, someone will try to suggest that should have applied to some other long gone threads, but when it comes to defending that claim, the reasoning will probably come across as weak.
    5485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! V - Closed for Renovations (Message 759527)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dont-cha just love watching the Seti@home screen saver?

    Good one, Angela, but check this one out. Imagine that's not a leather couch, but the inside of a car. (Since the pic is dark and other visual cues are hard to discern, this is a possibility.)
    "Awww, man! My master's woken me up again to take me to a 'crop circle,' hoping I'll be able to pick up the scent of the 'aliens' this time."
    (PM me if I win.)
    5486) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759409)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess Jim over in the paranormal thread doesn't know Calm Chaos has that topic all locked up! :) (Warning, Jim! We do not accept things uncritically.)
    5487) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 759363)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I fear some people don't know where left ends and right starts or vice versa. I just hate all extremists.

    You're just digging yourself deeper and deeper and deeper. Keep trying. Keep going with those unfounded statements and not actually responding to the questions asked of you. If you continue on this route rather than doing a 180 degree turn, you will quickly become nominalized and ignored by the community at large.
    5488) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 759347)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Glad to have got under your right wing skin. I was merely responding to previous posts which claimed that the whole world hates America. No it doesn't - just large numbers of people. That may be a "generalisation" but it appears that you people both accept and expect it. The world is still not your childish playpen.

    Have a pat on your head to patronise your overheated ego.


    Again you demonstrate your limited view, as I am not a right-winger. Nor am I a left-winger.

    Es, you really think this guy is capable of debate?

    No, he's just another person that resorts to unfounded personal attacks.

    Why appeal to me? :D I am not the arbiter of good and bad debating style.


    On the other hand, you've seen ohhh-so-much evidence of me being a right-winger. LOL.
    5489) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 759336)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Glad to have got under your right wing skin. I was merely responding to previous posts which claimed that the whole world hates America. No it doesn't - just large numbers of people. That may be a "generalisation" but it appears that you people both accept and expect it. The world is still not your childish playpen.

    Have a pat on your head to patronise your overheated ego.


    Again you demonstrate your limited view, as I am not a right-winger. Nor am I a left-winger.

    Es, you really think this guy is capable of debate?

    No, he's just another person that resorts to unfounded personal attacks.
    5490) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759243)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are any of us from Canada?


    Myron is. Kenzie said she'll be joining us as soon as she gets a machine capable of crunching and she is as well.


    Dwilson is also Canadian.


    Whoops. Forgot about him. My bad.


    It's ok. Our team answers questions synergistically.
    5491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759224)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of my conditions is that the woman must let Disney accept that Pluto is a dwarf planet, not a full-fledged planet.
    5492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 759220)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday Dark Angel!!

    Pink on gray does not work well.........

    You could have at least wished DA a happy birthday, man! :)
    5493) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759209)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, "we're still looking," right? :)
    5494) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759192)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are any of us from Canada?
    5495) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759161)
    Posted 27 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW, do we power crunch?
    5496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759130)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, Sticking my neck out here..... I has been brought to my attention that since I started this thread, that I need to be the one to stick my neck out and let it be know what I am looking for.

    Are there any single women on here, that meet the following qualifications? If so, apply within... LOL

    21+ up to around 35ish years old (preferably wanting to have children).
    5'6" or taller.
    Reasonably Beautiful.
    100% faithful.
    Have no diseases.
    Have no drug addictions.
    Have no legal troubles.
    Have no credit problems.
    Willing to travel.
    Willing to live in a small community.
    Willing to learn to put up with a 43 year old male that has been single just a bit too long.

    How's that? - and I even kept it clean! LOL

    Mark


    I don't meet the first requirement either, sorry, the rest is a fair description of me.

    Good luck with your SITF@Home (Search for Intra Terrestrial Female at Home) project, Mark. :-)

    Just be careful what you wish for, you might get it, and then a lot more you didn't wish for. ;-D (like this )


    Here's some Millan smilies for you, choose the one you like the best:





    Me? I'm a mix of them all, all since my last visit at my hairdresser. ;-)


    Are there any single women on here

    I don't meet the first requirement either

    WOT?!?
    5497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759085)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, Tony Stark is out?
    Plus, I think you're going to have as good luck as I do regarding the high level of education. (Good said sarcastically.)
    5498) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 759061)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you hear the whispers???
    Join the team everybody is talking about.
    Calm Chaos.

    Are they talking about us?


    Yes, Sarge. Try to keep up, please. :-)


    Racoons or squirrels?


    Actually, Chipmunks...


    Darn it, I always get it wrong.
    5499) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759053)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I suspect that argument is pretty valid where the SUV is concerned, but I doubt the majority of truck owners have never hauled anything in the back of their truck.


    Heh. It may be a closer ratio than ya think....but I'll give you that one....lol



    I actually find it kind of bizarre that we are at odds on this issue, so let me make sure I've got this straight.

    Now I realize that the 2004 numbers for Ford don't apply across the board to all makes and models, but you're saying that over 3/4 of the trucks and SUV's on the road have never been utilized for work, even if it's moving a couch or hauling off yard waste...something that cannot be done in a car?


    Referring to the bolded part, it's called choosing what is right, not who is right.
    As to your last sentence, should the question be about never using the vehicle that way versus how frequently or infrequently? Suppose such a vehicle was used that waqy just once or twice in the entire time it was owned.


    My argument isn't against the use of electric vehicles. I'm saying they cannot totally replace fossil fuel burning vehicles...at least based on the current technology. If you need performance an electric vehicle cannot deliver, then it doesn't matter how often you need it...


    In this particular case, we were discussing size of vehicles, regardless of how the vehicles are powered.
    On the other hand, I think a number of us are agreeing on a key point: multiple solutions are needed.
    5500) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759049)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I suspect that argument is pretty valid where the SUV is concerned, but I doubt the majority of truck owners have never hauled anything in the back of their truck.


    Heh. It may be a closer ratio than ya think....but I'll give you that one....lol



    I actually find it kind of bizarre that we are at odds on this issue, so let me make sure I've got this straight.

    Now I realize that the 2004 numbers for Ford don't apply across the board to all makes and models, but you're saying that over 3/4 of the trucks and SUV's on the road have never been utilized for work, even if it's moving a couch or hauling off yard waste...something that cannot be done in a car?


    I dunno about " at odds ", but I do disagree to some extent.

    I'm not saying that they have " never " been used for some sort of work, but I am saying that when someone moves a couch, or puts groceries in the back, or hauled a bit of garbage, that doesn't exactly qualify as being as much work as, say, a contractor would be doing with it. I just don't feel that moving your ( or someone else's ) couch a couple of times makes the vehicle a " work " vehicle.

    Think about this. How many of those " Sport Utility Vehicles " that were designed for off road use, have ever seen anything but paved roads? How many F 150's have carried nothing heavier than a load of groceries?? It may not be the majority of them, but I would be willing to bet that the number is pretty high.

    That being said, there are other reasons ( especially in the area I live and others like it ) for owning a truck. But, around here it's mainly for working purposes and weather ( during the Winter having 4WD can sometimes be a necessity ).

    Oh....as far as " can't be done in a car "...during my last move....I got everything I own either in or on my Saturn. A few more trips than I would have done if I had owned a truck of some sort, but it can be done. I didn't have to spend 30 grand on an F150 to move my couch. Didn't even have to rent a U Haul....lol


    Heck, I even fit in that Saturn once! :)
    5501) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759048)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You could still have your SUV for hauling, long vacations with your six kids, dragging your ski-boat to the lake or for schlepping your kids softball team to a game 50 miles away.

    A family with six kids likely does need an SUV. Then again, what in the world are they thinking, have six kids in this day and age?
    5502) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759040)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I suspect that argument is pretty valid where the SUV is concerned, but I doubt the majority of truck owners have never hauled anything in the back of their truck.


    Heh. It may be a closer ratio than ya think....but I'll give you that one....lol



    I actually find it kind of bizarre that we are at odds on this issue, so let me make sure I've got this straight.

    Now I realize that the 2004 numbers for Ford don't apply across the board to all makes and models, but you're saying that over 3/4 of the trucks and SUV's on the road have never been utilized for work, even if it's moving a couch or hauling off yard waste...something that cannot be done in a car?


    Referring to the bolded part, it's called choosing what is right, not who is right.
    As to your last sentence, should the question be about never using the vehicle that way versus how frequently or infrequently? Suppose such a vehicle was used that waqy just once or twice in the entire time it was owned.
    5503) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759039)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I doubt the majority of truck owners have never hauled anything in the back of their truck.

    Where else would they put their groceries, in the glove box? ;)

    I manage to fit all my groceries in the back of my Volkswagen Golf..in fact those things are very roomy and you would be surprised at the things I have managed to haul in the back of that. Most people simply do not need an SUV.

    You'd be surprised what one can carry without any vehicle at all.
    5504) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759037)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Claims of [url=http://www.aptera.com]Aptera[/url}

    Typ-1 EV
    120 Miles on a charge.
    Max speed 90 MPH
    a few hours of recharging time on 120V.
    $26900.

    Typ-1 Hybrid
    60 miles on a charge
    Max speed 90 MPH
    Upside of 200 MPG (not quite certain how far on the upside) after the batteries are discharged.
    a few hour of recharging time on 120V.
    $29900.

    Production cars available fall 2008.
    They are taking deposits.

    Carbon fiber body with a steel roll cage. Very light weight

    I don't know how well it is going to do on the snow.


    This goes back to the diversification issue.
    Of course, plenty of people will need a car that can perform well in the snow.
    Then again, my relatives that have moved to Virginia on a rare occasion note how Virginian drivers forget how to drive in snow (precisely because they deal with it so rarely).
    5505) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759034)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummmm....look around in a major city and take a look at how many SUVs are seen. Then take a guess at how many of them get used to " tow a trailer " or " hauling " much of anything except someone's fat arse.

    Sorry BSR, it may be true in the area you live in that most of those vehicles get used for " work ", but I would be willing to bet that the majority of them sold in this country were sold based on the " Mine's bigger than yours " mentality. That whole " Keeping up with the Joneses " thing is what sold a whole lot of those nice big 15 mpg Expeditions and F 150s.


    Well, that's the part I was censoring myself on: "Keeping up with the Joneses," a.k.a. Thorstein Veblen's "Theory of the Leisure Class."
    5506) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 759033)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now I realize that doesn't mean half the folks buying Fords are actually "working" from their vehicle, but it's a safe bet the majority of those sales WERE to people who need/want standard features not available on cars....that, generally speaking, is increased torque and a trailer hitch for towing and a bed/increased cargo area for hauling.

    There's a difference between wanting and needing.
    5507) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 759030)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That, while much more accurate, doesn't apply to 60, or 300, million people, and certainly does not allow for the interchangeability of the terms "American," and "American gov't" and "individual Americans."

    This (bolded) part indeed puts what I said another way. You did so quite succinctly, Rush. In my earlier post, however, I also argue that perhaps the attitude is being applied not only to American politicians and businesspeople, but the citizenry at large. Hence, my even earlier statement that the post we are responding to was self-nullifying.
    5508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 759007)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    1. 21+ up to around 35ish years old (preferably not wanting to have children of his own but must love other people's and be a good male role model).
    2. 6'0" or taller.
    3. Reasonably Beautiful. (must look like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp)
    4. 100% faithful.
    5. Have no diseases (including mental health problems).
    6. Have no drug addictions.
    7. Have no legal troubles.
    8. Have no credit problems and must be incredibly rich.
    9. Willing to travel.
    10. Willing to live where ever I decide I want to.
    11. Willing to learn to put up with a 35 year old female that hasn't been single that long and isn't sure she wants to give up her independence anyway.
    12. Must be built like a greek god


    I got 7 1/2 out of 12 ROFLMAO!!! Anyone get any nearer?


    What, answer that, and be back to the "Alpha Male" thread of 2-2+ years ago?
    No thanks! :)
    5509) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 759004)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will someone please glad hand me for posting some unfounded generalizations?


    Absolutely!!!! LMAO


    <=== pats KM on the back for patting Rush on the back.
    5510) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 758984)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not available in my country either.....who knew that Michigan was actually a country?? lol


    You guys must be teasing me...

    Just in case you are not then go to YouTube and find a file with the name: "Battlestar Galactica - Hybrid scene#1".

    Or try the file name "4rUqpPbxGzc" in the search box.

    Failing everything else look up the user "mistermirage"...

    Sorry my link went wrong.



    EOL.


    No, you aren't being teased. I received the same message as well.
    I know of a Canadian that is frequently unable to view youtube posts.
    5511) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758977)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People as a whole simply do NOT hate the USA.

    Your "argument" would be better if you clearly defined which people you are referring to and your basis for this statement.

    What they detest is the arrogance of American politicians who serve only to promote their US business interests and their own pockets. The US has got about as far from the tenets of its founding fathers as it is possible to go.

    The same applies here.

    Stop feeling hated and start listening for a change.

    It also applies here. Just which citizens of the USA do you believe:

      Feel hated (by the unstated other people)?
      are not listening (to what is not quite clear, but some clues are provided)?



    Learn something about other societies and religions.

    Who is it that you are asking to do this? Politicians and businessmen / businesswomen in the USA? Do you believe every single one of them knows nothing about these things?
    If so, then why are you posting it here? Do you believe that politicians and CEOs are browsing these forums? What evidence do you have of this?
    It seems much more likely that, simply by where you have posted it and in particular what you are responding to, you are addressing those of us that you believe are in the USA and that you believe think in a certain way.
    What precisely do you know about any of us? Do you know the extent of, for example, my travels, or what do you know about the Buddhist Vietnamese refugee family I befriended as a teenager; my Chinese colleagues; my Hindu friends and colleagues from India; my Arabic Muslim friends and colleagues from Palestine, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and others; my Christian Iranian mentor? Which others which you like me to list? Ukraine? Turkmenistan? I've known and associated with people from those countries as well. How about the friendships I've formed through this forum, not just with people from the USA, but also people from various parts of the UK, as well as Germany, Serbia and so on? (Let's see. Apparently, it is appropriate to list Australia and Canada as part of the Commonwealth.)


    Stop manufacturing terrorists where none existed by using sledgehammers to crack nuts.

    Again, who is this directed at? Apparently, based on where you have posted it (the S@H forums) and what you were responding to, you are addressing it towards us. What evidence do you have that any of us, wherever we may be from, is guilty of manufacturing a terrorist, etc. ... ?

    Recognise that Forest Gump was a satire on the last 60 years of American life and attitudes and adopt a little humility to go along with your awesome power.

    This is the weakest link in your "chain" of "reasoning." Referencing the movie "Forrest Gump" in a political/historical discussion is akin to suggesting one can learn a lot of mathematics by watching "Good Will Hunting" or "A Beautiful Mind." (At least a "Beautiful Mind" was based on the true story about John Nash.)
    Each of these three movies was about the long search to reach inner peace or happiness. It is that simple.
    As a matter of fact, Forrest Gump was portrayed as a humble man, albeit challenged by a low IQ and, earlier in life, by problems with his legs.
    Furthermore, that movie portrayed opposing points of view and ways of living that have existed within the USA over the past 60 years or so. So, just what monolithic "American life" are you referring to, and how can you talk about this when earlier in your post you said, paraphrased, "the world outside the USA" hates the politicians and businesspeople? No, by referencing "Forrest Gump" and "American life," you are addressing something much wider and your view is as limited as you claim our views to be.

    People like me have a huge fund of good will towards the US but that fund is not bottomless and your apparent collective belief that "the American Way" is the only way simply has to change.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DGfXAvgknM
    http://music.yahoo.com/Queensryche/Revolution-Calling/lyrics/32895751#lyricstop
    Our apparent collective belief?
    Again, you demonstrate a limited view of the diversity which exists within the USA itself, the very thing you accuse of us.

    Please realise that most of the world simply cannot and will not live that way. That does not make them your enemies and they might even make good friends.

    Have you ever eaten at a fast food restaurant? Do you drive a car, polluting your environment and the world's environment in general? (I could list others.) If so, then perhaps you aren't so unlike Americans.

    In other words, grow up. The world is not not your playpen.

    Perhaps you need to expand your own view as well. We probably all do.
    You will not assist in this by making unfounded, overgeneralized, statements.
    5512) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758943)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woo hoo?
    5513) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758871)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, sorry, not really. Any good points in there got buried/nullified/whatever by very weak presentation. I was going to post that hours ago, but let it go. Sorry, Es, this patting each other on the back, congratulating each other for weak arguments stuff should stop.


    Sorry, run your strong argument past me once again, will you? Er, what argument?


    Es knows precisely what I am talking about.

    No..I don't sorry. Can you explain it to me please? :D


    Yes, you do, as we have discussed it before.
    5514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 758744)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm single... and I'm staying single! Kapeash? ;)

    That Apostle Paul really got to you, huh?
    5515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 758743)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes. Nothing to see.
    Thread closed.
    :)
    5516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 758671)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, my Grandma went punk purple, too. It was so the fashion statement.
    5517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 758650)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SETI Singles! Now you can crunch one huge workunit instead of several small ones! (For those of you that miss the classic SETI, 24 hours to crunch, days.)
    5518) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758647)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And let's not rewrite S@H forum history either

    I think you'll find a lot of 'evidence' within *my* post history... ;)

    (Why o why will no bod y ev er list en to me.)


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=662086&offset=3000?
    5519) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758639)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the present, there are still enough people among our fellow US citizens that sling racial and religious slurs at Arabs and Muslims (no, the two groups are not precisely the same), and some US citizens that believe Saddam supported al Qaeda in 911.

    And let's not rewrite S@H forum history either, since the threads where I'll bet we can find evidence of such were originally in the Cafe, since the Politics forum did not exist here until last summer. You've been around long enough to know that.
    5520) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758637)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, sorry, not really. Any good points in there got buried/nullified/whatever by very weak presentation. I was going to post that hours ago, but let it go. Sorry, Es, this patting each other on the back, congratulating each other for weak arguments stuff should stop.


    Sorry, run your strong argument past me once again, will you? Er, what argument?


    Es knows precisely what I am talking about.
    5521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 758615)
    Posted 26 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have about 6 hours left to wish DA a Happy Birthday! :)
    5522) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 758524)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So while it's a great alternative for passenger travel, it's not going to work for people who "work" from their vehicles like plumbers, carpenters, welders, etc.


    And there just aren't that many that work from their vehicles, relatively speaking, are there? So, what you're saying is, it would affect you. (I'll censor myself about those people that think they need an SUV.)
    5523) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758522)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You don't know a single fellow citizen of the USA that believes we should be in Iraq?!? Sorry, where have you been the last ... (hmmm, end of May, 2008 - errr, March 2003? = let's say approximately) 5 years and 2 months?
    I have personal friends that argued for being in Iraq in June 2003 and prolly still would. I remember one discussion clearly, over lunch at a little restaurant known as Fazoli's. Worse yet, the spin was already changing: now, all of the sudden, we were there to liberate those poor Iraqis. ("Bill, do you mean to say we shouldn't be there to help liberate those Iraqis? How dare you!" "No, Phil, I am saying that's not the reason we were given for going in. We were told Saddam had WMDs." "What are you talking about, Bill?!? The goal was to liberate the Iraqis! Always was, still is, always will be!" --- OK, the last of the quotes is fabricated. The others are not.)
    I'll bet that if you look through posts from 2-3 years ago just on the S@H forums alone, you will find several Americans arguing it was right for us to go to war with Iraq (some at the same time also insulting Muslims).
    5524) Message boards : Politics : Swirling controversy (Message 758520)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People as a whole simply do NOT hate the USA. What they detest is the arrogance of American politicians who serve only to promote their US business interests and their own pockets. The US has got about as far from the tenets of its founding fathers as it is possible to go.

    Stop feeling hated and start listening for a change. Learn something about other societies and religions. Stop manufacturing terrorists where none existed by using sledgehammers to crack nuts. Recognise that Forest Gump was a satire on the last 60 years of American life and attitudes and adopt a little humility to go along with your awesome power.

    People like me have a huge fund of good will towards the US but that fund is not bottomless and your apparent collective belief that "the American Way" is the only way simply has to change. Please realise that most of the world simply cannot and will not live that way. That does not make them your enemies and they might even make good friends.

    In other words, grow up. The world is not not your playpen.

    Well said!


    No, sorry, not really. Any good points in there got buried/nullified/whatever by very weak presentation. I was going to post that hours ago, but let it go. Sorry, Es, this patting each other on the back, congratulating each other for weak arguments stuff should stop.
    5525) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 758337)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you hear the whispers???
    Join the team everybody is talking about.
    Calm Chaos.

    Are they talking about us?


    Yes, Sarge. Try to keep up, please. :-)


    Racoons or squirrels?
    5526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 758336)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Today is the day! :)
    5527) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 758100)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am saying that the discussions of the past 15 to 20 years suggest there should be more than one alternative. For exaomple, over-reliance on wind power would create new problems.
    5528) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 758050)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mark:

    As I was a child in the 1970s, you and others may be shocked to learn I remember the following things:

    Nixon's resignation.
    Gas lines.
    And, apparently, one Sunday, my Dad pushed it too far, thinking he might still have enough in the tank. But, we ran out of gas not long after we left the church parking lot. Now, when a kid that young knows people are having trouble getting gas, you can imagine that I was scared. I didn't know if Dad was going to be able to get any. Added to that, at the time I did not understand distances and how fast he could walk (which is, it turns out, pretty darn fast), so I did not know how long we'd be sitting there waiting for him to get back. (In hindsight, it was prolly a mile to the gas station, which he certainly made it to in 15 minutes or less.)

    I'll agree to this: most people quickly forgot the lessons of the early 70s.

    On the other hand, IIRC, it has been said (but by whom?) that we should not throw all the R&D into just one alternative. We need a diverse set of alternatives, or we may face other environmental problems. (I can imagine that there'd also be other economic problems as well, then.)
    5529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 758045)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, guys, but I was busy giving and then grading final exams.
    After the submission of final grades (with only about 3 minutes to spare for one section), I have been recovering the last 2 days. Perhaps tomorrow I can give the problems proper thought.
    BTW, Luke, yes, it is likely many people are not around, as it is a 4 day holiday weekend here in the USA.
    5530) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 758021)
    Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can you hear the whispers???
    Join the team everybody is talking about.
    Calm Chaos.

    Are they talking about us?
    5531) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 757560)
    Posted 24 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the Chaos!
    5532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#63 - OPEN FOR RECONSTRUCTION due to Monday's win! (Message 757516)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rhyming day
    again
    only comes our way
    now and then.
    Some might say
    follow zen.
    5533) Message boards : Politics : Biofuels are ruining the Economy (Message 757512)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If only the hot air we find on the S@H forums could be used as fuel. ;)
    5534) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 757510)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tired of your same old boring BOINC sig?
    Rather than join a team that has the same old stock sigs, you can get one created personally for you by one of our team members.
    I don't know which one, though.
    In fact, this might not even be true.
    But, it's a bump for the thread. ;)
    5535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#63 - OPEN FOR RECONSTRUCTION due to Monday's win! (Message 757458)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh no, what have i done. All rhyme now.

    Yo, yo, now it's begun! All time cow.

    ?!?
    5536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 757366)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Two days to go!!!

    yep!
    5537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed for cleaning! (Message 757170)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Even better.
    5538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed for cleaning! (Message 757166)
    Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great song!
    5539) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking for New Members ( 5 ) (Message 757056)
    Posted 22 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump
    5540) Message boards : Politics : Corporations (Message 757042)
    Posted 22 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    According the the World Health Organisation the risks from a mother using the formula with contaminated water (as most of them have to do) is greater than the the risk of passing HIV to the infant through breast feeding. Of course there will be times when the mother can safely use the formula then it is appropriate.

    The problem is that the companies are misselling their product to mothers who cannot safely use it. As a consequence babies are dying.


    Hmmm, sounds to me like what they need is clean drinking water then, as surely if mum gets ill, the breast milk won't be all that nourishing either, when spread amongst multiple infants also. Unless of course third world mums are hardened against drinking the local water supply somehow. I think I'll hold off on that shirt&mug and go for the water programs instead.

    Jason

    [Adelaide tapwater related local saying: "If it's brown drink it down, if it's black send it back"]


    Jason, I think you've unknowingly brought us full circle. Then again, I can't read all the posts in this thread here, either, for lack of time.
    5541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 757037)
    Posted 22 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your thread's not been forgotten, Luke.
    Myself, I've been incredibly busy. Perhaps after 18 hours of well-deserved sleep, I can solve some of these.
    5542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 756247)
    Posted 21 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Platonic isn't exactly what I was talking about.....

    I was clarifying Dune's post, not your goals.
    5543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti Singles (Message 756027)
    Posted 20 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, Dune means platonic relationships. He's happily married. I keep trying to get the guy to be a scout for me, but he refuses. So, next time I am in Ohio, I'll see if he'll play the wingman part instead. :)
    5544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 755866)
    Posted 20 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are a number of shapes that can be rested against the sides of right triangles and their areas will behave in the x^2 + y^2 = z^2 fashion. Off the top of my head, I think they have to be similar figures.
    5545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : go starfish! (Message 755771)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Garden of Rama starfish?
    5546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 755701)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What do you mean by "outside of the field"? Is the right triangle not completely within the 1 acre field?
    5547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 755602)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did I inspire the inclusion of the pictures?
    What program did you use to make that, Fred?
    5548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755566)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because you cannot discuss the topic, and you have at least two threads for inane ramblings, this thread is closed.
    5549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 755483)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Before rolling a 6, 5 rolls expected.
    The expected sum goes up by 3 with each additional roll. (Not proved; observed for 1 through 5 rolls, using for do loops on MAPLE.)
    (3 + 6 + 9 + 12 + 15) / 5 = 45 / 5 = 9, the expected sum ... ?
    5550) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 755439)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How odd...an entire thread went away....and I got no notification about my post in that thread being deleted??

    Have I misplaced my post??


    KM that was my fault (as the thread author.)

    I did post my reason for the deletion request in the thread prior to it's deletion. Obviously those too have been deleted.

    I've PM'd you my apologies for the loss of your post.

    Sarge's thread is just as good a place.

    cRunchy



    As I said...no worries, Crunchy. Nothing major. Not the first post of mine that's been lost. Certainly won't be the last...lol


    It's because your posts are controversial, obscene or both. NOT!!! :)
    5551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 755421)
    Posted 19 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    May 1-18, 2008 ... celebratioooon! Let's celebrate ... and have a good time. WOO HOO!
    5552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755418)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Specific moderator actions, or kitty actions ( ;) ) may not be discussed on the forums. :)

    I have not seen any ruling on discussing kitty actions......LOL.

    It's those non-specific rulings that will get you every time. :)

    Ouch......some of us have learned that one the hard way.......


    It's not just the kitties that help you see more clearly. :)
    5553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755371)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Specific moderator actions, or kitty actions ( ;) ) may not be discussed on the forums. :)

    I have not seen any ruling on discussing kitty actions......LOL.

    It's those non-specific rulings that will get you every time. :)
    5554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755327)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Specific moderator actions, or kitty actions ( ;) ) may not be discussed on the forums. :)
    5555) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 755177)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't it obvious?
    S@H belongs to Berkeley.
    5556) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 755175)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know who S@H belongs to!

    Re-read the line above the image.
    5557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 755168)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you wish to "be" off-topic, kindly go to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=47122 or http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=45167.
    This thread is for discussion, by those who have authored threads, of the logic of thread splicing.
    (It would also be interesting to know if any of them have ever requested such a thing.}
    5558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 754969)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Grow up.
    5559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 754863)
    Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am looking at a Rubik's Cube right now.
    There's a little ambiguity as to what you are taking to be adjacent.

    I was going write a few different versions, based on different interpretations of adjacent, first assuming you mean they share an edge on the visible outside. But that in itself would prevent getting to what I call the core piece (your center cube).

    Even then, there's some amiguity. For example, is a corner piece adjacent to a face center piece?



    Let us assume the answer is no. Then we have the following.

    6 face center pieces, 4 edges pieces and the core piece, for a total of 5 pieces.
    8 corner pieces, each adjacent to 3 edges pieces.
    12 edge (connecting to face center pieces) pieces, adjacent to 2 face center pieces and 2 corner pieces, for a total of 4 pieces.
    1 core piece, adjacent to 6 face center pieces.

    Rephrasing, two sub-cubes are being considered adjacent if they share a face, even if that face is not visible on the outside of the Rubik's Cube. Put yet another way, one cannot travel from one sub-cube to another if the two sub-cubes share only a point or an edge.

    Now, I want to use up all the sub-cubes, ending at the core piece. Do I want the sub-cubes to be the nodes or the arcs? (I am using these terms as opposed to vertices and edges to avoid conflicting geometrical terms about the cubes and graph theoretic/combinatorics terminology.)

    I am currently working on viewing the pieces as the arcs, so that I can consider an Euler path (using all the arcs), for which there are necessary and sufficient conditions to determine if an Euler path exists. "A connected, undirected multigraph has an Euler path but not an Euler circuit if and only if it has exactly two nodes of odd degree."

    A nice thing about this is that I can look at 5 + 3 + 4 + 6 = 18 nodes, rather than 27.

    I guess that means there are 27 arcs then, as well. Therefore, the sum of the degrees is 54. At least it is not odd, but it does not narrow anything out yet.

    Here's the arc set, then: {core,blue,{blue,red,orange},{blue,orange},{blue,orange,green},{blue,green},{blue,green,white},{blue,white},{blue,white,red},{blue,red},white,red,orange,green,{green,white},{white,red},
    {red,orange},{orange,green},yellow,{yellow,red,white},{yellow,white},{yellow,white,green},{yellow,green},{yellow,green,orange},{yellow,orange},{yellow,orange,red},{yellow,red}}.
    Besides, the core, a single color is used for a face center piece, two colors for an edge piece and 3 colors for a corner piece.

    (More editing underway.)
    5560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 754553)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I had been one to always keep the Myths, Legends, Conspiracies thread " on topic " then there is no way it would have survived 11 spawns.

    It wanders around constantly. But yet...it always manages to find it's way back.


    What a wonderful approach!
    Here's an example of how the thread author clearly states at the beginning of each spawn of the thread that going a "bit" off topic is o.k.!
    No splicing required, eh?
    5561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 754526)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And please, I think you are a bit off base by insinuating that a simple thread going off topic impacts the project's efforts.
    The forums use so little bandwidth compared to the crunchers asking for work...
    That is just silly talk........

    There is no other logical explanation for splicings.
    5562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going "off-topic" - closed (Message 754454)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meandering threads cut down on the project's ability to detect ETI.
    It is also sends a bad message to the young ones when they see that, when adults voluntarily speak with each other, adults cannot help but go off on tangents.
    Please, end this bad habit and respect the topic set by the thread author.
    Then again, is it the thread authors that care so much?
    What say you, thread authors?
    5563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED!!! (Message 754414)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have 8 days in which to wish DA a Happy Birthday.
    No belated birthday wishes will be accepted.
    DA will only thank you once, near midnight of that day, from some unknown location (underground lair?) with wireless access.

    Now get posting!

    Happy Birthday, DA!
    5564) Message boards : Politics : THe politics of HIV and other serious diseases. (Message 754240)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How is it that JM7 opened this thread & his opening remarks are missing? They might help to lead this thread in the right direction.

    Let the leader speak!
    5565) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 754216)
    Posted 17 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know who S@H belongs to!
    5566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 754212)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joke answer: consume none. Open boxes, dump out contents, look for prizes, eat none of it.
    Kobyashi Maru.
    5567) Message boards : Politics : THe politics of HIV and other serious diseases. (Message 754207)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, this is BrainSmashR's thread.
    I'm confused.
    Is there a problem here?
    Why can't I keep up here anymore?
    5568) Message boards : Politics : THe politics of HIV and other serious diseases. (Message 754188)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By the thread title and your opening post, I take this to be a thread about HIV. Specifics have mentioned in vitro (is that the correct term?) and breastfeeding. There was something about Nestle? I don't get that whole thing? Chocolate milk?
    5569) Message boards : Politics : THe politics of HIV and other serious diseases. (Message 754173)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Malicious action, BrainSmashR? Where? Sheesh, I wish I could keep up.
    5570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Great white lies (Message 754166)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Clyde's sunk his teeth into this one! Hang on, surfers! :)
    5571) Message boards : Politics : Spirituality Thread (Message 754117)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What does it mean to you?
    If nothing, why?
    5572) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753992)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    do not assume religion/spirituality is just an opiate for un-educated masses.

    I've never understood that 'logic' either... Most uneducated people I've met drink smoke and play video games while most educated people I've met carry a bible around and go to church on sundays... ;)



    Maybe those most educated people who carry the bible schould live according this bible and preventing to aks for forgiveness every sunday.... ;)


    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! :)
    5573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753860)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - don't completely throw out the intuitive stuff. :)
    5574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753855)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have had many experiences where I get a refresher, or am offered up challenges, that serve me well a few months later when teaching.

    I've seen two other spellings of Chebyshev, I believe.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pafnuty_Chebyshev
    His name is transliterated variously as Chebychev, Chebyshov, Tchebycheff or Tschebyscheff (French and German transcriptions) among many others.

    One of the issues is the use of a different alphabet. Also, there are slight differences in what syllables a child learns to pronounce, around the world. But, I do not know if this is the case for Russian vs. English speakers.
    5575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753832)
    Posted 16 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am going to have to think about that one more, Bill.
    I just read your approach quickly.
    On the second draw, would you not have to consider both the situation of picking the same thing you did the first time versus picking one of the 3 remaining colors?
    5576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753768)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another try--my math is a bit sloppy: Thats why I like to use a program or EXCEL.

    sum of (1+.075/12)^N for n=1 to 360 times the 100,000 all divided by 360 to make the same monthly payments and the answer is 699.21

    Sarge is right my answer was for a 15 year loan and was wrong anyway.

    Regards,

    Bill


    Bill, I just taught the material recently, so I figured I better take a shot at it or else I'd have a heck of time scoring the final exam! I think you had the right approach.

    On the pirates one, no clue yet. On the number of cereal boxes, I am trying to turn myself from what originally came to mind because I don't think I was applying the correct concept at first.
    5577) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753709)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes to the wife part, no to the Ph.D. Please don't hold either one against me!

    Oops. OK, I am trying to remember now what you had said or implied before. You do do research, correct? Not just the funny observations of squirrels.
    (Bear with me: I hope to connect this to the topic.)


    Try to keep up, Sarge. It wasn't squirrels...it was raccoons. Take a peek at the avatar....lol


    That's what multi-tasking while sick does to a guy.
    5578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753696)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The mortgage problem solution is $843.86 per month with the rate divided by 12 and amortization set up for 360 periods.


    r = 0.075
    m = 12
    t = 30

    i = r / m = -.00625
    n = m * t = 360

    Periodic payments = 100000 / ((1 - (1 + i)^(-1 * n)) / i) = 699.21
    5579) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753564)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Pediatric speech pathologist," posted 80 days ago?
    I'd say you're no slouch, then.
    My point, then, before some go down the tired old road so many of our peers posting in these forums have ... do not assume religion/spirituality is just an opiate for un-educated masses. I would not be surprised to find many that accept that as an axiom to be dealing with it in just an uncritical manner as they like to assume religious/spiritual people are guilty of.
    5580) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753558)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes to the wife part, no to the Ph.D. Please don't hold either one against me!

    Oops. OK, I am trying to remember now what you had said or implied before. You do do research, correct? Not just the funny observations of squirrels.
    (Bear with me: I hope to connect this to the topic.)
    5581) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753526)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In case you don't know, Taurus, Angela is project scientist Eric Korpela's wife and she is, herself, a Ph.D.
    5582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bright green puppy born in New Orleans (Message 753524)
    Posted 15 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder if this puppy is into social networking?
    5583) Message boards : Politics : Catholic Church: existence of aliens is OK (Message 753373)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aliens are eligible to populate Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo as well ? (could be yuckky up there)
    Did their Adam and Eve undergo the same prohibitions about eating from the tree of knowledge ?
    Did they have to have a "Savior" as well
    Will they have their own private Hell etc

    "Out of the Silent Planet" / "Perelandra" / "That Hideous Strength."
    5584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bright green puppy born in New Orleans (Message 753365)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    green is the color of hope...

    Green is also the color of algae... ;)

    Let us hope that algae remains green forever.
    5585) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Planet X discovered? (Message 753295)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Lord. Do we need a lesson in statistics in here, next?
    5586) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 753277)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fair warning

    This thread runs out off topic. Please be so kind, and stay on topic.



    The prices at the pub are falling; it just costs more to get there. ;)
    5587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bright green puppy born in New Orleans (Message 753275)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Zorrilla said the puppy will not be green forever, and will likely turn white or a light tan color in the next few weeks.
    5588) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 753246)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brain, Es, Jeff-o: see you at the pub soon. When we're gone, the other ppl will think we are mortal enemies. Dang, we sure have them fooled. ;)
    5589) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The permian Extinction Event the smoking gun (Message 753242)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Larry, you forwarded the images to JPL; may we see them, too? :-)


    How do I attach a link to this blog


    Leave out spaces in something such as [u r l]http://www.this.is.my.blog.vogonsphere.com[/ u r l].
    5590) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Planet X discovered? (Message 753239)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Taurus, besides a fleeting reference in the movie K-PAX, I've never heard anyone suggest the things you're claiming they do. Tell me, have you met some "Flat Earthers," too? No, you say? Oh, well then. Please, don't make assumptions about everyone here based on a very limited number of them.
    5591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753233)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Solve for "Planet X." :)
    5592) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Planet X discovered? (Message 753179)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hang on here a minute. There is no announcement about any "Planet X". The announcement is about a supernova explosion that happened 400 years ago!

    Space.com have the story on the front page also; http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080514-galactic-hunt.html

    It is exciting at the same time.

    {EDIT} That was my 1000th post.....LOL :)


    Go, Johnney! You tell 'im! You da man! It's your birthday.
    5593) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Planet X discovered? (Message 753153)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I hope the conference also gets u'tube'd, because I won't be able to watch it.
    Scratch that: I followed the link to the NASA site and clicked the first link.
    5594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753109)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I still say, it's metal, melt it! Or, use Luke's lightsaber. ;)
    5595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 753022)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ahhh, but it is metal and so perhaps it could be melted down and reshaped. :)
    Also, unless told otherwise, a mathematical problem assumes ideal situations, such as no material loss.
    5596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752991)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Agreed as to your approach. Still, if the tank is open at the top, yes, you have the correct result for the area of the lateral surface (approximately 219.91 cubic ... quickly erasing that and replacing it with square ... grrr ... whatever the units were), but ... .
    With only one circle, at the bottom, Pi*r^2 approximately 3.14 * (7/2)^2 = 3.14 * 3.5^2 = 3.14 * 12.25 = 38.465.
    Adding the two, we're at approximately 258.375, where as your answer was very close to mine, where I made the assumption of both the bottom and top enclosed by circles.
    5597) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 752950)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ..and to Brainsmashr's cry that Walmart would never do that....how does he justify Nestle selling powdered baby milk to mothers in 3rd world countries where THEY COULD NOT STERILISE THE WATER?

    It's been a while since my Cub Scouts survival training, or working at a camp several years later, but I have this sneaking suspicion that one boils water to sterilize it? Plus, there are ancient ways of sparking a fire in lieu of a stove. Just checking. Usually my water's clean within the limitations of my senses. Then again, it did freeze twice in that silly winter a few months ago.

    Let them eat cake eh?

    OK Marianne.


    Who said anything like that? Certainly not me.
    5598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752949)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, Luke, was it the first solution or the one I offered after Fred W asked what he asked?

    If the first, which of the two solutions did you find easier to follow? More convincing? More elegant? Etc. ... .


    I'll give Fred 1/2 a point for his help and directions.....
    As for your solution Sarge, Your first one was the "beautiful" one.... but your second one convinced me more...

    I've got one more also....
    Q25:If a cylindrical water tank has a height of 10 and a diameter of 7 calculate the amount of sheet metal needed to create this tank. also Calculate the volume of water that this cylindrical tank will hold.

    Best Regards,
    Luke.

    Without calculator and assuming laser cutting to minimise material loss:

    The parts can be cut from sheet that is 28.99 x 10 = 289.9 Area.

    The volume is 384.89.

    F.


    Do we have rounding errors here?
    2*Pi*3.5^2+2*Pi*3.5*10 is approximately 296.8805058 (referring to surface area, the amount of material needed for construction of the tank).

    As for a night's worth of sleep, I only got 5 hours. :( It took me 30-45 minutes to wind down after I stopped doing work last night. And, in 30-60 minutes I'll be doing more work.

    Luke: interesting, I figured the second solution would be the one you'd consider elegant.
    5599) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 752826)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ..and to Brainsmashr's cry that Walmart would never do that....how does he justify Nestle selling powdered baby milk to mothers in 3rd world countries where THEY COULD NOT STERILISE THE WATER?

    It's been a while since my Cub Scouts survival training, or working at a camp several years later, but I have this sneaking suspicion that one boils water to sterilize it? Plus, there are ancient ways of sparking a fire in lieu of a stove. Just checking. Usually my water's clean within the limitations of my senses. Then again, it did freeze twice in that silly winter a few months ago.
    5600) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 752824)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I just want to get this straight. So, we have a lot of "rocket scientists" here, right, Rush? So, the only problem is that they just do not share your philosophy, correct? Because, as you've said, everybody can think for themselves.
    Just what role does education play in this?
    5601) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Falling Prices!! (Message 752821)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I seriously doubt he called the practice "evil" even though it does undermine American business, but I really don't see anything wrong with telling people that medicine purchased in foreign countries has not been subjected to FDA quality standards.

    Remember this phrase? "Axis of Evil." So, even if he did not use the term "evil" in that instance, it's not hard to understand why KM expressed it as he did.
    5602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752817)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fred:

    5603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752806)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, Luke, was it the first solution or the one I offered after Fred W asked what he asked?

    If the first, which of the two solutions did you find easier to follow? More convincing? More elegant? Etc. ... .
    5604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Daniel Michel's Birthday - May 13 (Message 752792)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    59 minutes left to wish Daniel a Happy Birthday!
    ( Unless, Daniel's pulling an all-nighter. Then again, let us hope it is in a way more fun than reading the message boards. ;) )
    5605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 7 (Message 752726)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some people know how to look after their teeth.

    I'm worried about the state of dentistry in the UK.
    5606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752717)
    Posted 14 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fred: for a moment, you had me worried. See, here, it is mid-evening and the sky is beginning to darken. But, I've been spending much of the day working on grading papers from a different area of mathematics. So, my typing up those two solutions was a bit of multi-tasking and there could indeed be errors.

    However, on that part, I am sure. total time = time courier is going back + time courier returns to the front = t_b + t_f. If the courier went distance x during t_b, since the column was a mile long, the column is marching 1 - x of the distance so that the courier meets the back of the column. If I am correct about that 1 - x, then the x the distance of the column moving forward during t_f is because the column moved a total of 1 mile during the total time, leaving 1 - (1 - x) = x during t_f.

    So, since we are both tired, either I am either making more sense or making my self sound even more ridiculous. :) Sometimes multi-tasking = bad.
    5607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752654)
    Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That is accounted for.
    But, in case it is not, then in my second version:

    1 / x = (distance courier forward) / (distance courier back) = (r_d * t_f) / (r_d * t_b) = t_f / t_b = (r_c / r_c) * (t_f / t_b) = (r_c * t_f) / (r_c * t_b) = (distance column while courier goes forward) / (distance column while courier goes back) = x / (1 - x).

    The relationship here begins to give it away:
    1 / x = x / (1 - x)


    change it to:

    (1 + x) / x = x / (1 - x).

    x^2 = (1 + x)(1 - x) = 1 - x^2.
    2 * x^2 = 1.
    x^2 = 1 / 2.
    x = sqrt(2) / 2, with obvious rejection of the negative branch of the square root.

    The total distance in this case would be 1 + 2x = 1 + sqrt(2).

    And, if Luke does not respond beforehand, then I will check both cases by determining all rates and times involved to check for consistency. I, for one, don't mind brain-storming and sharing an idea, with refinement / correction / improved explanation a little later. :)
    5608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752609)
    Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (x + 1)^2 - (x - 1) - 1 = 0. Solve for x + 1, not x.

    This should read as (x + 1)^2 - (x + 1) - 1 = 0.
    5609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752600)
    Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The total distance is the Golden Ratio, Phi, approximately 1.6180339886


    Is this just spooky or is there a reason for it ?


    This will simplify the solution, perhaps, and maybe elaborate why it must be Phi.

    1 / x = (distance courier forward) / (distance courier back) = (r_d * t_f) / (r_d * t_b) = t_f / t_b = (r_c / r_c) * (t_f / t_b) = (r_c * t_f) / (r_c * t_b) = (distance column while courier goes forward) / (distance column while courier goes back) = x / (1 - x).

    The relationship here begins to give it away:
    1 / x = x / (1 - x)

    ===> x^2 = 1 - x ===> x^2 + x - 1 = 0.
    (x + 1)^2 + (x + 1) - 1 = (x^2 + 2x + 1) + (x + 1) - 1 = (x^ 2 + x - 1) + (2x + 1 + 1) = (x^2 + x - 1) + (2x + 2) = 0 + 2(x + 1) = 2(x + 1)

    As does this version of the equation:
    ===> (x + 1)^2 - (x - 1) - 1 = 0. Solve for x + 1, not x.
    5610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 752571)
    Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let d stand for the deliverer and c stand for the column. Also let b stand for back and f for forward.
    r and t will, of course, stand for rate and time. rate * time = distance.
    Consider the distances traveled over the time it takes for the courier to deliver the message to the back of the column and then during the return to the front of the column.
    Since the column moves forward while the courier moves to the back of the line, the courier marches less than 1 mile. Call this amount x.

    (1) r_d * t_b = x (the distance the courier travels back),
    (2) r_d * t_f = 1 (the courier must cover the entire length of the column on the return trip),
    (3) r_c * t_b = 1 - x,
    and (4) r_c * t_f = x.

    Substitute (4) into (3).

    (5) r_c * t_b = 1 - r_c * t_f.

    Combine the terms with r_c. (t_b + t_f) * r_c = r_c * t_b + r_c * t_f = 1.
    Therefore, r_c = 1 / (t_b + t_f). (6) x = r_c * t_f = t_f / (t_b + t_f).

    Isolate r_d in (2). r_d = 1 / t_f. Substitute this into (1). (7) x = t_b / t_f.

    Therefore, by (6) and (7), (8) (t_b / t_f) = (t_f / (t_b + t_f)).

    In (8), cross-multiply: t_b * t_f + t_b^2 = t_f^2. Solve for t_f. We obtain two possibilities.

    t_f = ((1/2) + (1/2) * sqrt(5)) * t_b or t_f = ((1/2) - (1/2) * sqrt(5)) * t_b. (The first of these is the Golden Ratio, Phi.)

    Substitute each of these into (7). Again, we obtain two possibilities, this time for x.

    Either x = 2 / (1 + sqrt(5)), which is approximately x = .6180339886,
    or x = 2 /(1 - sqrt(5)), which is approximately x = -1.618033988.

    Since x is a distance and direction has already been accounted for from the start, x cannot be negative. The latter must be rejected.

    Therefore, x = 2 / (1 + sqrt(5)), the distance the courier traveled back. Again, the courier then has to walk the entire length of the column, 1 mile, to return to the front.

    1 + x = (3 + sqrt(5)) / (1 + sqrt(5)) = (-2 - 2 * sqrt(5)) / (-4) = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2.

    The total distance is the Golden Ratio, Phi, approximately 1.6180339886.
    5611) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Daniel Michel's Birthday - May 13 (Message 752456)
    Posted 13 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday, Daniel!
    5612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : forum5.com is down (Message 751941)
    Posted 12 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmmhh... ;-)

    Its up and running.. but still with a lot of errors. Anyway.. i will be patient, there is nothing else to do.. And as the saying is; Positive thoughts gives positive results. So i think as positive about it as possible ;-)))


    Yes, the positiveness of the sweet and beautiful Moon is what is required here.
    Let us all retire, giving space where needed, while things are sorted out.
    5613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : forum5.com is down (Message 751933)
    Posted 12 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it is down again.

    Do you?

    I am the administrator of http://www.cafe.forum5.com and I say it is up and running.


    Yes. Yes, I do.
    5614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : forum5.com is down (Message 751921)
    Posted 12 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it is down again.
    5615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Blurf's Birthday TODAY!!! (Message 751258)
    Posted 10 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blarf! Happy Burthday!
    5616) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 750990)
    Posted 10 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mystery solved.
    5617) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 750988)
    Posted 10 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The obvious is that there already is an address where moderation messages come from. So, why did some people get them (moderation messages) from a separate address? Hmmm? The rest of you seem oblivious to the fact that moderation messages were coming from that address. Hence, the address is justifiably suspect.
    'Nuff said in this thread.

    Recently the email address that is the source of the moderation emails has changed. I believe that it used to be setimods@ssl.berkeley.edu. I believe that it is currently seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu.

    As i said earlier..moderation notices come from setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu.
    I think i would know.


    Yes. Moderation notices still comes from setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu


    Let's test this right now. Please hide this post of mine.
    5618) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 750779)
    Posted 10 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The obvious is that there already is an address where moderation messages come from. So, why did some people get them (moderation messages) from a separate address? Hmmm? The rest of you seem oblivious to the fact that moderation messages were coming from that address. Hence, the address is justifiably suspect.
    'Nuff said in this thread.
    5619) Message boards : Politics : Burma (Message 750561)
    Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Again, I think many times people misunderstand Rush.
    And if my interpretations are incorrect, he will almost certainly tell me. Most likely by posting, but perhaps in a PM.
    cRunchy, you DO act charitably. Rush argues against promoting the need for being charitable without being charitable one's self. So, he's not "railing against" someone like you in particular.
    If Rush were Christian, he'd be one that believes "Faith without good works is worthless."
    And he does not trust large government, much, to be the ones to step in to do the good works, saying instead individuals should be the ones doing this, wherever possible.
    Despite his style at times, I am really shocked that many of the rest of you do not read with similar conclusions.
    (Reminder: And if my interpretations are incorrect, he will almost certainly tell me.)
    5620) Message boards : Politics : Burma (Message 750489)
    Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Rush is suggesting some people actually sneak past the military government into Myanmar and start providing those poor people some help instead of typing to each other about it on computers.
    What a concept, eh?
    I figured after 2 years I'd let you know that's probably what he's been saying all along.
    5621) Message boards : Politics : SETI Belongs To You? (Message 750466)
    Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would still run BOINC even if there were no message boards for a sense of community.
    (If you're going to consider RAC, you need to consider combined RAC, not just here at S@H.)
    5622) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 750213)
    Posted 9 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Setiweb
    5623) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 749984)
    Posted 8 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
    Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)


    I don't know. That address was probably around before my time on the forum! The only honest I can give is "don't know" - but why does it matter anyway? - you have the correct addresses to use in the previous post.

    I'll not answer the same question by PM if you don't mind. Don't want to wear my little fingers to the bone answering the same question over & over.


    The address apparently came into existence around April 2 of this year. If you're not aware of that address, then the admin need to know immediately that someone either was spoofing their domain name or hacked the server in order to set up an individual e-mail account for whatever reason.
    5624) Message boards : Politics : Seti Help - Genuine Request or Political Shenigans? (Message 749976)
    Posted 8 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    We're just trying to figure out what the new plan is. It would help if those in charge would be more forthcoming about how things work today.



    Who is "We"?

    If you are specifically trying to contact the Admin then "be patient" is the only advice I can give. If your query to them is forum related then the correct address to use is the one that goes to the moderators - they are the ones who will deal with forum issues and the Admin may well ignore these enquiries for all I know. The moderators address is: seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu


    edit - wanted to add that I don't think things are finallised back here yet, hence no announcement has been made.


    What about this address: setiweb (AT) ssl.berkeley.edu> ... ?
    Is that a legitimate address used by the GROUP of moderators? Please answer honestly. (A PM is acceptable.)
    5625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 749975)
    Posted 8 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Q21: A large tank has a steadily flowing intake and 10 outlet valves, the latter being all of the same size. With 10 outlets open, it takes two and one half hours to empty the tank; with 6 outlets open it takes five and one half hours to empty the tank. After the tank is empty and with all 10 outlets closed, how long will it take to fill the tank?

    The subtleties of question posing.
    It seems as if the intake must have been occurring during the two instances of checking the outflow for full work and 3/5 the work.
    5626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 749741)
    Posted 8 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They would have been simple if everyone had PM'd me for the hints.....

    Bill wins Q18: A997 coins, B0 coins, C1 coin, D0 coins, E2 coins. Congrats again!
    &
    Dominique wins Q19: 2.92 Minutes / 2m 55s. Well Done!!!

    Standings Table:
    1. Mr. Kevvy - 7 Points
    2. William Rothamel - 5 1/2 Points
    3. WinterKnight - 4 Points
    4. Sarge - 1 1/2 Points
    5. John McLeod VII - 1 Point
    6. Dominique - 1 Point
    7. Scary Capitalist - 1/2 Point
    8. TBA.......

    Simpler than ever before....

    Q20 (Half-Point & No calcs) : (8x7)x(15x26) divided by 15 = ???

    Best Regards,
    Luke.


    I'll point I've been a way and have not looked at all posts in this thread.
    I've noticed with some a lack of explanation, just a statement of the answer.
    Maybe Luke can start to award points based on answering versus answering with explanations.
    Now, with this particular question, I'm sure it'll seem trivial, but ...

    Obviously, the factor 15 will cancel, so we're left with 8 * 7 * 26. The associative property allows for dropping the parentheses. We can also factor and re-associate in various ways. (A sub-question some might find interesting is: how many ways could this be done for this multiplication problem.)
    Here, I'm thinking of the prime factorization of 26, 2 * 13.
    (8 * 7) * 26 = 56 * (2 * 13) = (56 * 2) * 13. 56 and 2 are relatively small, so getting to 112 * 13 is not too difficult for us.
    Multiplication relies heavily on the distributive property and I do not want to go get paper and do this in my head late at night, so:
    112 * 13 = (100 + 10 + 2) * (10 + 3) = 100 * 10 + 100 * 3 + 10 * 10 + 10 * 3 + 2 * 10 + 2 * 3 = 1000 + 300 + 100 + 30 + 20 + 6 = 1456.


    So, yeah, I know Dominique and William answered before me, so Dominique can get the points or whatever, but I just wanted to offer food for thought. Again, providing explanations and the related problem of how many ways could we have dealt with 8 * 7 * 26.

    (How about (8 * 13) * (7 * 2) = 104 * 14? Is it an easier than the way I initially broke it down? Hmmm. Actually, yes!)
    5627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 749739)
    Posted 8 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They would have been simple if everyone had PM'd me for the hints.....

    Bill wins Q18: A997 coins, B0 coins, C1 coin, D0 coins, E2 coins. Congrats again!
    &
    Dominique wins Q19: 2.92 Minutes / 2m 55s. Well Done!!!

    Standings Table:
    1. Mr. Kevvy - 7 Points
    2. William Rothamel - 5 1/2 Points
    3. WinterKnight - 4 Points
    4. Sarge - 1 1/2 Points
    5. John McLeod VII - 1 Point
    6. Dominique - 1 Point
    7. Scary Capitalist - 1/2 Point
    8. TBA.......

    Simpler than ever before....

    Q20 (Half-Point & No calcs) : (8x7)x(15x26) divided by 15 = ???

    Best Regards,
    Luke.


    I'll point I've been a way and have not looked at all posts in this thread.
    I've noticed with some a lack of explanation, just a statement of the answer.
    Maybe Luke can start to award points based on answering versus answering with explanations.
    Now, with this particular question, I'm sure it'll seem trivial, but ...

    Obviously, the factor 15 will cancel, so we're left with 8 * 7 * 26. The associative property allows for dropping the parentheses. We can also factor and re-associate in various ways. (A sub-question some might find interesting is: how many ways could this be done for this multiplication problem.)
    Here, I'm thinking of the prime factorization of 26, 2 * 13.
    (8 * 7) * 26 = 56 * (2 * 13) = (56 * 2) * 13. 56 and 2 are relatively small, so getting to 112 * 13 is not too difficult for us.
    Multiplication relies heavily on the distributive property and I do not want to go get paper and do this in my head late at night, so:
    112 * 13 = (100 + 10 + 2) * (10 + 3) = 100 * 10 + 100 * 3 + 10 * 10 + 10 * 3 + 2 * 10 + 2 * 3 = 1000 + 300 + 100 + 30 + 20 + 6 = 1456.
    5628) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Cooler decade to come (Message 748916)
    Posted 6 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is not new, however.
    5629) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748914)
    Posted 6 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it may be a good idea if the admin take note of those who do not wish to consider the position.

    I'll start the ball rolling...........

    On no account e-mail me regarding volunteering for mod position - it will be deleted instantly without reply.

    No offence intended.


    If it's anything like last time, you wake up one morning, go to read/post and BAM! There's a mod tag by your screen name! Even if not, do you really want no news to be assumed to be good news? Meaning, not reading an e-mail "No" could be interpreted as "Tes."



    They shouldn't be making assumptions. I run my own servers & business forum. My e-mail is heavily filtered, so hopefully, it will never get through. Should I wake up & see it so tagged, I will be very displeased!


    Honestly, I doubt it would run the same way this time. But, until we're told otherwise, it remains a possibility, no matter how small the probability.
    5630) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748907)
    Posted 6 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it may be a good idea if the admin take note of those who do not wish to consider the position.

    I'll start the ball rolling...........

    On no account e-mail me regarding volunteering for mod position - it will be deleted instantly without reply.

    No offence intended.


    If it's anything like last time, you wake up one morning, go to read/post and BAM! There's a mod tag by your screen name! Even if not, do you really want no news to be assumed to be good news? Meaning, not reading an e-mail "No" could be interpreted as "Tes."
    5631) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748792)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would you telling us, Eric is a liar?

    Is your point that you missed the context of the comment entirely? Given that you did not quote an important part of the argument as it was presented?

    Oh, SNAP! :)
    5632) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748739)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People say lots of things that may or may not be true.

    Hmm... Lip service? Empty words? Propaganda? BS? Yeah, I know... ;)

    Cover the butt of one/a group? Yeah. I know.
    5633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Jeffrey's Birthday Today (Message 748738)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    <=== bandwidth stealer! :)
    5634) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748708)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eric has said it is not him and he no longer is involved with the forums.

    People say lots of things that may or may not be true.

    Indeed.
    5635) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748691)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cRunchy, it's not SAFE to ask these questions! :)
    5636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 748541)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    3.14159265

    I used to know it one place further out.
    I suspect the next is a 4.
    So, 9 or 10 places.

    LOL..I only remember as far as 3.141 ..but that is usually far enough for most purposes.

    If Luke sets some questions that aren't probabilities I'll have a go. Probabilities are my worst part of maths. :(

    Thats way too accurate, 3 is fine for me most of the time, calculating electronic components, but have to remember 3^2 = ~10. If I need more accurate its time for the plastic brain.

    And I totally agree about the probability and statistics questions. Should be a completely separate subject taught in the business management and marketing building.


    The degree of accuracy needed will, of course, vary.

    No, probability and statistics is far from separate from mathematics.
    Yes, business majors need to know some of it.
    And so do math majors. To suggest otherwise means either the connections to geometry and calculus was never shown or forgotten.
    5637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 748390)
    Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    THE ANSWER IS 40% OR 4 OUT OF 10

    A good one Luke, however I must stipulate that without any information (pre-conditions) I am assuming equal probability that any birth is a 50-50 chance--which may not be exactly true-however for my answer to be correct I must assume this ratio.


    Correct!!! Well done, Bill!
    Official Q17 Answer: 40%

    Statistics Table:
    1. Mr. Kevvy - 7 Points
    2. William Rothamel - 4 1/2 Points
    3. WinterKnight - 4 Points
    4. John McLeod VII - 1 Point
    5. Sarge - 1 Point
    6. Scary Capitalist - 1/2 Point
    7. TBD....

    Now something a bit different....
    Normal questions will resume later.....

    18 Beta: How many digits of Pi do you know? (Please be truthful)
    (Open to everybody)
    The question is worth 1/2 a point to the winner with the most memorized digits....

    Best Regards,
    Luke.


    3.14159265

    I used to know it one place further out.
    I suspect the next is a 4.
    So, 9 or 10 places.
    5638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guess it's not safe (Message 748190)
    Posted 4 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yet another obvious political thread.
    5639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Groundhog's Day (Message 748189)
    Posted 4 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anything that might possibly be interpreted as a political thread (if there is even the slightest hint) must, of course, be placed in the Political Forum.
    5640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Guess it's not safe (Message 747962)
    Posted 4 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll check back in a few months.
    5641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Simple" Maths Problems - CLOSED! (Message 747716)
    Posted 4 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    190 balls. 19 colors, 10 of each.
    P(drawing 2 of the same color) = 1/21.

    After adding 20 of a new color,
    P(drawing 2 of the same color) = (19*choose(10,2) + choose(20,2)) / choose(210,2), which is still 1/21.
    5642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Groundhog's Day (Message 747497)
    Posted 3 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As safe as you want it to be. LOL

    Frodo!
    "Is it secret? Is it safe?!"
    5643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Groundhog's Day (Message 747495)
    Posted 3 May 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pokes head up out of hole.
    Looks around.
    Is it safe?
    5644) Questions and Answers : Web site : Post in Forum go missing (Message 738443)
    Posted 13 Apr 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7435

    6916.
    I received notices for all 519 of them.
    Nah, just kidding.
    5645) Questions and Answers : Web site : Post in Forum go missing (Message 737978)
    Posted 12 Apr 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7435
    5646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Adopt A Scientist Program (Message 708450)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But are they house trained?


    I suppose you could ask Angela...


    Eric is most certainly NOT housebroken. He leaves his crap all over the place!


    Do you want to adopt some additional scientists? :)
    5647) Message boards : Politics : Thread closed due to lack of interest. (Message 708345)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread closed due to lack of interest.
    5648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The thread of useless knowledge (Message 708337)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your interpretation is a possibility. Has Waters, or, less likely, Gilmour, directly addressed this? Given Waters' penchant for writing about war, your interpretation is a plausible one.
    On the other hand, I think they may have been reading Updike's novels. (Please follow the link.) Given many references to people being too paralyzed to take actions throughout "Dark Side of the Moon," I think my connection to the Updike's "Rabbit Run" series of books is also plausible.


    Could be both, I've no idea, I'd heard it was a nod to the song 'Run rabbit, run' though more than once before. Could just be one of those 'rumors', and I don't know any of the Pink Floyd members well enough to ask them myself. lol


    With PF, yes, it could indeed be both.
    5649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The thread of useless knowledge (Message 708330)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in World War II killed the only elephant in the Berlin Zoo.


    One of the first bombs dropped on British soil by a bomber for the Germans was dropped over the Shetland Islands, leaving nothing but a crater, and one fatality: A rabbit. This would be the first unofficial non-military fatality of the war, as it would be over 5 months before a British civilian died in the war. This spawned the WWII song 'Run rabbit, run', (a line also reused in a Pink Floyd song called 'Breathe').


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit,_Run
    Your interpretation is a possibility. Has Waters, or, less likely, Gilmour, directly addressed this? Given Waters' penchant for writing about war, your interpretation is a plausible one.
    On the other hand, I think they may have been reading Updike's novels. (Please follow the link.) Given many references to people being too paralyzed to take actions throughout "Dark Side of the Moon," I think my connection to the Updike's "Rabbit Run" series of books is also plausible.
    5650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Quote of the day (Message 708326)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are many studies of leadership from almost as many perspectives. Howard Gardner focuses on the leader as creator, teller and living exponent of a story, and makes an overwhelming case for the centrality of this function in leadership, and its complement, countering the counter-stories that exist in the organisation. Leaders who understand and use this book will add greatly to their effectiveness.

    The idea of the leader as living exponent of a story is combined with the concept of the 'five year old mind'. Simply put, even sophisticated people are not sophisticated in all domains. In other domains, the common denominator of shared understanding is the 'five year old mind', the five year old having a very concrete, literal and emotionally based understanding of the world. For success, a leader should know how to appeal to the five year old mind, as well as to more sophisticated audiences.

    Excerpt of Bill Godfrey's review of Gardner and Laskin's "Leading Minds: An Anatomy of Leadership" at Amazon.com.
    5651) Message boards : Politics : Lies Lies Lies - Closed (Message 708317)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I do believe calling my President and Vice President liar's is an insult to my country and thus an insult to me.


    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."

    Bill Clinton lied. He admitted it. He was the president of your country and mine. Have I insulted our country and you by reminding you of this? Or do you only get insulted when it's a Republican President (or V.P.) that is being called a liar?
    5652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 708274)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ditto.
    5653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 708224)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't forget Sarge said it first. ;)
    5654) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 708213)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey missed the quotation ("") marks and the reference to it as a "thingy." ;-)
    5655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Adopt A Scientist Program (Message 708206)
    Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But are they house trained?


    I suppose you could ask Angela...


    Ohhhh, more secrets from the Korpela household revealed. Yes, thank you! :-D

    Angela, where are you? Angela!?!




    Angela is here


    Angela is my SETI friend and I PMd her to let her know we miss her and need her input in this thread. :)
    5656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Adopt A Scientist Program (Message 708176)
    Posted 4 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, unless someone wants to adopt Dr. A or K first, who's going to adopt me?!? Or Es, the one with the physics background, for that matter?!? Eh?!
    5657) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 708171)
    Posted 4 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    But! But! Trust me, you'll enjoy this "Rapture" thingy I've got planned. ;)
    5658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 708154)
    Posted 4 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still alive here. Hey! I've only been gone for 2 months. It's a long story.

    Did it have anything to do with handbags?


    *snicker* ;P


    Concur. :)
    [EDIT: WB, Dominique.]
    5659) Message boards : Politics : Lies Lies Lies - Closed (Message 707948)
    Posted 4 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All politicians lie......it's what keeps them in the money.
    And I was a 'dyed in the wool' republican until this second Bush term and the sad state of his handling of our relations with the rest of the world community.
    And oddly enough, his defense of 'our oil' has not resulted in the cost of same going down, as evidenced by the recent spike in crude prices.......so what has it gained us, other than padding his cohorts' pockets with cash, and hardening much of the world's resentment against us?

    Well, there's a lie worthy of discussion: that we invaded Iraq to steal their oil. Not only have we not stolen their oil, but we are paying the highest prices ever for the stuff. The US has not gotten any free oil from Iraq, nor sweetheart deals or any advantage in oil prices from our liberation of Iraq. But you might examine the underlying reasons that "the world community" has complained about our actions in Iraq; I'm sure you will uncover some lies being told there.

    So what do you really think?
    If we had kept our nose out of the Muslim's world would they still have attacked us?
    And would that have made all of our problems go away?

    I am not trying to be argumentative.....I just want to know if you really feel that 911 would not have happened if our leaders had paid more attention and money to what is happening here........
    It makes me rather sad to think about what might have been done domestically with all of the money (and lives) that have been spent in Irag.....


    Don't forget two attacks by al Qaeda in ... what, 1993 and 1998? Yet those were under Bill Clinton's "watch." So, it is not so easy to break this down into black and white.
    As for another post here: no, calling names and impugning integrity is saved for e-mail these days, isn't it?
    5660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 707749)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOT!!!


    be aware of my pants.

    beware the pants! beware! beware!


    I'm not aware. :)
    5661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 707722)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOT!!!
    5662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 707707)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the heck is so funny? Surely I can't be the only person who owns a cape and tights... ;)


    so, as i see it: The Legend is as follows - Ant with cape & tights is seen . . .

    < i believe it's time for Tim (CA) to generate THAT avatar ;)



    How would he afford the avatar? :)
    5663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 707705)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the heck is so funny? Surely I can't be the only person who owns a cape and tights... ;)

    How'd you afford the cape and tights? :)
    5664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 707701)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the heck is so funny? Surely I can't be the only person who owns a cape and tights... ;)


    so, as i see it: The Legend is as follows - Ant with cape & tights is seen . . .

    < i believe it's time for Tim (CA) to generate THAT avatar ;)



    ?
    5665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 707589)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm also amused. :)
    Anyone else? :)
    5666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707587)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I think he did more than simply just fill in for Rhoades. His playing was perfect. He made Ozzy look good. Compare this live Crazy Train with Gillis with another live one with Wylde.

    Hmmm. Is it the playing or Ozzy's singing nearly 25 years later? If you can find an Ozzy/Zakk Wylde vid of this from '88 or '89, we might have a better comparison.
    5667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707505)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We could also make a connection like this:

    Brad Gillis to Jack Blades ... Night Ranger.
    Jack Blades to Ted Nugent ... Damn Yankees. And didn't msattler post a Nugent link? :)
    5668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707500)
    Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Randy Rhoades: Ozzy Osbourne - Over the Mountain.
    Reb Beach: Winger - Headed for a Heartbreak.
    Third Eye Blind - How's It Gonna Be?

    If memory serves, Rhoades and Satriani were associated, Beach studied from Satriani a bit and so did the guitarist from 3EB, but the 3EB guy eschewed the style and went alternative.


    Wait, were did Winger come from all of a sudden? :-D


    As I said, I believe I learned at one time that Reb Beach, the Winger guitarist, did some studying with Joe Satriani. Plus, if you knock out some of the Winger pop hits, you'll find they weren't just straightforward rock/glam metal. There were some elements of progressive rock.

    I could ask the same about Night Ranger (where'd it come from in relation to the rest?), but I know Brad Gillis filled Randy's shoes during an Ozzy tour after Randy's death. Then we got Jake E. Lee.
    5669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 707422)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey ES00

    Esoo? lol :)

    Isn't double-0 the licence to ill?

    Shouldn't it be 00Es then?

    It's like reversing the E and the O in the Deutsch word for "king."
    5670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 707421)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey ES00

    Esoo? lol :)

    Isn't double-0 the licence to ill?

    Beastie Boys? :)
    5671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 707419)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Open Lines

    Now where the heck did I put that darn telephone... ;)

    (BTW, I believe in the Bermuda Triangle, I've seen it, I've swam in it, I've sailed across it, I've flown over it, it's really there.)


    Flown over it? How'd you afford a ticket? ;)
    5672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707380)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Randy Rhoades: Ozzy Osbourne - Over the Mountain.
    Reb Beach: Winger - Headed for a Heartbreak.
    Third Eye Blind - How's It Gonna Be?

    If memory serves, Rhoades and Satriani were associated, Beach studied from Satriani a bit and so did the guitarist from 3EB, but the 3EB guy eschewed the style and went alternative.
    5673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707377)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Along with Joe Satriani, there's Trevor Rabin in Yes - 90125 - Changes (live).
    5674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707366)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe Satriani - Not of This Earth - Rubina (live), Joe Satriani - Not of This Earth - Memories (live), Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien - Always with You, Always with Me, Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien - Circles (live), Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien - Echo (one of my favorites, live), Joe Satriani - Dreaming #11 - The Crush of Love (live), Yes - Big Generator - Love Will Find a Way.
    5675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 'where ever it takes me' thread........... (Message 707354)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joe Satriani - Flying in a Blue Dream (title track, live).
    5676) Message boards : Politics : Thread closed due to lack of interest. (Message 706961)
    Posted 2 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Liberalism

    The liberalism thread is down the hall, turn left, go 2 doors, turn right and then go just a little further.
    5677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706917)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My secret.... I really have legs-I just hide them well, shhhh :)

    You just made me break my vow of not responding directly to a mod. But you've really shown your sense of humor here. Priceless.

    He's a mod? I thought all mods operated in sEcret, and Blurf and his friEnds are just dEcoys?

    Of course we are.....everybody knows that it's my kitties that do the modding.....

    I just knew it! Explains everything...

    No, it doesn't. :P
    Kitties like me.
    5678) Message boards : Politics : Thread closed due to lack of interest. (Message 706904)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In this thread, we trade stories about the fairy tale of a perfect economic system, be it capitalism, socialism, message-bored-ism or whatever.

    You mean things like the story of Enron where the deregulation of the Californian Energy market led to rolling blackouts as traders switched off the power stations in order to push up share prices?

    God Bless the free market.


    That had big words, like deregulation, in it.
    I noe unnerstan dem big wordz.
    5679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706881)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My secret.... I really have legs-I just hide them well, shhhh :)

    You just made me break my vow of not responding directly to a mod. But you've really shown your sense of humor here. Priceless.
    5680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 706880)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Daniel(Mid) --- besides Beets' post, I'm bumping this thread to draw attention to your post regarding the project several of us are crunching to honor Dennis.

    And we did quite well imho.
    The team is on #12 in RAC-stats already.
    Come and join as well.

    For Dennis Peters aka DogBytes
    Team to crunch in memory of Dennis Peters, a.k.a. Darth DogBytes who passed away 12/21/2007.


    The team is still growing, too! :)
    5681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706818)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    N.K.F.?
    5682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 706816)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dr. A. does not believe in The Bermuda Triangle.
    Maybe The Bermuda Line Segment, though? Let's PM him and ask. :)
    5683) Message boards : Number crunching : How to get into this line of work? (Message 706474)
    Posted 1 Feb 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Acheron, your best bet is to send a private message to Eric Korpela, project administrator.
    Also, I hear he's interested in people with some ability with PHP.
    5684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706414)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I bet you would have never guessed this one, I am not really Albert Einstein (shhhh!).

    You won't believe that I really am made of ice?

    "Get Smart" voice --- "OK, then would you believe ONE HUNDRED cubes of ice?"
    5685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mike is UOTD at Beta (Message 706372)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well done Sir!


    Hmm what its me Mike


    Is it you? :)
    You are a Mike, but are you THE Mike?


    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/profile_menu.php



    So, what you are telling me is Mike is THE Mike. Because that sure looks like Mike, or at least a mini-Mike.


    look at mi first post in this thread: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=45066&nowrap=true#706214



    But, but ... !

    That just blended in with:

    Tell your friends about SETI@home

    SETI@home looking for more volunteers


    I'm just glad Mike is Mike and Mike is UOTD! I was so worried it might be another Mike!
    5686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oooooh and so super secret too! (Message 706369)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My secret is that Es is my cousin.
    Just kidding.
    5687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mike is UOTD at Beta (Message 706310)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well done Sir!


    Hmm what its me Mike


    Is it you? :)
    You are a Mike, but are you THE Mike?


    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/profile_menu.php



    So, what you are telling me is Mike is THE Mike. Because that sure looks like Mike, or at least a mini-Mike.
    5688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Drill Sergeant (Message 706285)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you Sir.I feel much better now.
    01976 reporting for duty as requested Sir.Thank you Sir.I will return to my duty.

    Rock ONNN, my brutha!
    5689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mike is UOTD at Beta (Message 706284)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well done Sir!


    Hmm what its me Mike


    Is it you? :)
    You are a Mike, but are you THE Mike?
    5690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For people with no avatars & who have regained them :-) (Message 706212)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My avatar left me, but I kept that RACs ;)

    Dogone it! They're leaving me now, I can feel it :(


    maybe ya mighten like this oNe iX:

    . . . it's 'titled' friends ;)


    oh that is so sweet! :)


    . . . as they say: "anything for a friend, indeed"


    Do you think my avatar will love me when it finds me again?


    Only if you respect in the morning!
    5691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mike is UOTD at Beta (Message 706211)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mike as in THE Mike? :)
    5692) Message boards : Politics : Hitlery baits Obama on race... (Message 706125)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was inevitable that Hitlery would pull out the race card, but to do so on MLK Day was tacky. You see, the second Obama's perception includes race, he loses. Hitlery is a bitch. Next President will be McCaine.

    Since Free can't spell McCain, I'll assume the spelling of Hillary is a typo as well. ;)
    5693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people II (Message 706054)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kitten and Rabbit Fighting!!!
    5694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum script can see the future? (Message 706051)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is old news, and it does not even come from someone with a first name starting with P.
    It was noticed several months ago.
    5695) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 706036)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos,
    The Team that actually enjoys talking to each other.

    LOL

    (Distro?)
    5696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 706029)
    Posted 31 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still kind of cryptic, yet suggestive of clarity.
    5697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 705991)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... months.

    Not one week, lol.
    5698) Message boards : Politics : Egoism---an alternative (Message 705976)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    well i have to say im rather dissapointed about this thread, i saw the topic and dived in looking to get me some good old fashioned philosophy.

    >snip the drivel<

    oh one final thing...Scary Capitalist, we have many dead dictators and the like to pretty much prove- the biggest mouth does not nesicarily shout the best philosophy, so do me a favor. put down the dictionary and just try to be quiet long enough for yourself and others to think.


    I'm not sure you even read what he said.


    I used to.
    I still read much of what you write, though, Rush. Why? What's the difference?
    5699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For people with no avatars & who have regained them :-) (Message 705975)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've had an avatar, I've been without.
    I put my avatar in a car, sent it away and made it pout.
    I currently have no avatars,
    but then again, I also no longer crunch looking for signals from the stars.
    Once, my RAC was high.
    Now, it is about to die.
    Can you make me crunch again,
    if so, should I have an avatar then?
    5700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 705884)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The secret is, I'm really a blonde.
    5701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : For people with no avatars & who have regained them :-) (Message 705882)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    yo



    Word.
    5702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 705849)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to wake up and get moving. That coffee is really helping, but the blimp has yet to go!

    It's quiet here.


    Yes

    and

    You know why!


    And sooo super secret, too! ;)

    Hey, that's my And sooo super secret ,too! You can't have it as well. How can it be a And sooo super secret, too! if you know it?


    I thought it was an open secret that I know many not-so secret secrets?
    Except the Ancient Chinese Secret. But, I suspect it's ... CALGON!

    [P.S. - Anybody remember the good ole days when you had to maintain an RAC of 10 in order to post?]
    5703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 705727)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A great song, by an insanely beautiful group.

    Everybody Hurts - The Corrs


    Very very nice selection, Red.
    I dare say, I think I like this version better than the original!
    5704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 705645)
    Posted 30 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to wake up and get moving. That coffee is really helping, but the blimp has yet to go!

    It's quiet here.


    Yes

    and

    You know why!


    And sooo super secret, too! ;)
    5705) Message boards : Number crunching : Dennis is in the heaven looking for our ET signal... (Message 705612)
    Posted 29 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone who is interested in running a project for February in Dennis' memory PM me and I will get you the details.

    I think Daniel's message deserves a bump for this thread.
    And, once again, RIP Dennis.

    One more bump.
    One person PMd me about this, so I hope my directions helped or he followed up by PMing Daniel.
    5706) Message boards : Politics : State of the Union 2008 (Message 705480)
    Posted 29 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I get 14 channels with an amplified antenna... No State of the Union... ;)

    Which networks are you getting?!?
    5707) Message boards : Politics : State of the Union 2008 (Message 705470)
    Posted 29 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, I'd bet many people are willing to sacrifice other things they need for things they want, including wanting cable.
    5708) Message boards : Politics : State of the Union 2008 (Message 705469)
    Posted 29 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you saying it was not broadcast on the major networks, major networks that can be received without cable still? Seems I caught a portion on NBC when I got home.
    5709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 705454)
    Posted 29 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Beets --- well said, my friend.
    @Daniel(Mid) --- besides Beets' post, I'm bumping this thread to draw attention to your post regarding the project several of us are crunching to honor Dennis.



    Here is Dennis being very serious in his role as a seti mod.

    I am absolutely devastated and shocked at the news of his death....


    That was probably one of my posts he was modding. :)
    Glad we made amends.
    The strange thing is, on Christmas morning, I kept accidentally pressing "Dogbytes" instead of "Dad" when I was trying to call my Dad on Skype. Maybe I should have let it keep ringing. We might have known sooner that something was wrong.


    Don't blame yourself. There was no way you could have known what had happened.




    @Gavin --- I don't blame myself ... at least, I don't think I do. But, I'm still a little haunted by this when I allow myself to think about it. Besides what I described about Christmas morning, I think I had a sense things were going downhill for Dennis. His Skype calls to me were becoming more frequent and those of us that use the Calm Chaos forums saw him a lot in FlashChat. I think I sensed, on some level, that he was doing more to surround himself with his friends from the internet in his last days. I'm tempted to say, "What if I had paid more attention to my emerging gut instinct?" By asking myself this question ... well, am I blaming myself? I don't know.
    5710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : my thought for the day (Message 705365)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's hard to believe that a single generation could do so much damage on a global scale...

    On the bright side, the test results are in for the long term effects of sex drugs and rock&roll abuse...

    Maybe if I think more positively, it will all just go away... ;)


    I think Jeffrey watched "The Secret" one too many times or has realized he should disconnect from his SPs.
    5711) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 705249)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So much for that booming economy we keep hearing about... ;)

    When's the last time you heard that? :P
    5712) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 705248)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most likely, the money will go in the bank so I can get a little closer to the down payment I need for a house.

    They have those in your State?

    Actually, yeah. So many people have been leaving this state that there are LOTS of houses around for sale. It's definitely a buyer's market around here these days...

    Any stats on where they are going to?


    I don't know where they are going...but the last time I looked for it.....something like 30,000 people had left in the last year or so.


    See the post just above yours for slight detail regarding where they're moving.
    5713) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 705169)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0107/p03s03-uspo.html.
    5714) Message boards : Number crunching : Dennis is in the heaven looking for our ET signal... (Message 705166)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone who is interested in running a project for February in Dennis' memory PM me and I will get you the details.

    I think Daniel's message deserves a bump for this thread.
    And, once again, RIP Dennis.
    5715) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 705080)
    Posted 28 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Krokus

    Our Love


    Great song, A/C. But, did they ever do an unplugged version of it? (Or of "Screaming in the Night"?)

    Oops, found one already: Screaming in the Night (unplugged).
    5716) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 704951)
    Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've retired from working, so I probably won't get anything. But if I do, it'll go into my checking account. From there it'll probably go into a munibond mutual fund. Or, possibly to Uncle Sam to whom I owe additional income tax for 2007 (if the check arrives in time - doubtful).

    As of 2-3 days ago, the word was the checks would go out in May. So, that's past April 15.
    5717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Satellite to hit Earth (Message 704866)
    Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great!
    More plutonium raining down on us.



    get on your bike and head for W.Texas. Nothing exciting ever happens here.


    http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/02/01/shuttle.columbia/index.html
    http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=32.200502&lon=-96.644145&mag=11&q1=Nacogdoches%2C%20tx
    5718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Satellite to hit Earth (Message 704861)
    Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People seem to be getting slower at posting these important items here. (Theories?)
    This is old news.
    5719) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 704860)
    Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would you like a Great Lakes water rebate?
    Salt water free!
    5720) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [11] (Message 704669)
    Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Faux Tom Cruise Interview.
    About This Video
    an intro video for our "Misfits" series at Mariners Church Jr. High
    5721) Message boards : Politics : Danger signs for religious freedom in 2008? (Message 704580)
    Posted 26 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/commentary.aspx?id=19511

    Commentary

    Danger signs for religious freedom in 2008
    Inside the First Amendment

    By Charles C. Haynes
    First Amendment Center senior scholar
    01.06.08

    Let’s start the New Year with good news: With all of our challenges and flaws, the United States begins 2008 as the world’s boldest and most successful experiment in religious freedom. Where else do citizens of every faith or no faith enjoy as much liberty to practice religion (or not) without government interference?

    Of course, a cynic might say we don’t have much competition. In a world plagued by religious wars, state persecution of religion, and sectarian strife, religious freedom remains the most-desired but least-protected human right for millions of people throughout the world.

    Our relative good fortune, however, shouldn’t lull us into thinking it can’t happen here. Complacency is the great enemy of freedom, especially in a nation of exploding religious diversity and bitter culture wars.

    Of the many signs of danger to religious freedom in America, here are my nominees for two of the most disturbing trends in 2007 to worry about in 2008.

    # First, the unhealthy mixture of God and politics in the presidential campaign:

    So religion-saturated is this election cycle that Beliefnet.com created a “God-o-meter” to track the shameless, mostly fatuous, invocation of religion by candidates seeking to appear holier-than-thou.

    2007 was the year Democrats got religion — and now they’re competing mightily for the Almighty vote. The God-o-meter reports that Bill Richardson got so carried away in front of an Iowa crowd last week that he told them the state needed to preserve its first-caucus status “for constitutional reasons, for reasons related to the Lord.”

    Meanwhile, some Republicans appear to be running for Christian-in-Chief. Mike Huckabee advertises himself as a “Christian Leader,” Mitt Romney scrambles to prove he’s a true Christian and John McCain tells a reporter he thinks the Constitution establishes a “Christian nation.”

    Enough already. The U.S. Constitution establishes a secular republic, mandates “no religious test” for public office and guarantees full religious liberty for every citizen.

    Politicians, like any American, are free to talk about their faith. But when they use religious language to signal preference for one group over others — or suggest that one group should somehow be privileged by government — they violate the spirit of the First Amendment and undermine religious freedom.

    Personally, I think Roger Williams got it right in the 17th century: A truly Christian nation cannot be a Christian nation in any official or legal sense of the term. As Williams read the Gospel, God requires that liberty of conscience be protected for all people. That means no government entanglement with any religion in a society where everyone has the right to choose freely in matters of faith.

    # Second, the rise of Islamophobia (an irrational fear or condemnation of all Muslims or Islam):

    2007 began on a hopeful note with the swearing in of Keith Ellison, the first Muslim American to serve in the U.S. Congress. But the year ended badly when John Deady, co-chair of the New Hampshire Veterans for Rudy, told a British newspaper last week that Muslims should be chased “back to their caves.” When asked if he meant all Muslims, he replied: “I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They’re all Muslims.”

    Because such sentiments are (for now, at least) politically unacceptable, Deady had to resign from Giuliani’s campaign. But sadly his views about Muslims are shared by a growing number of Americans — including some leading Christian pastors who want to recast the “war on terrorism” as a “war on Islam.”

    Not only are these people wrong about Islam, they are propagating views that are dangerous for American Muslims — and for our national security. We need to work with Muslims who oppose terrorism across the globe, not demonize their faith. And we need to fight anti-Muslim bias at home, not encourage attacks on our fellow citizens.

    We can do better in 2008, but only if enough Americans take seriously their civic duty to defend religious freedom, not just for themselves but for people of all faiths and none.

    Charles C. Haynes is senior scholar at the First Amendment Center, 555 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, D.C., 20001. Web: firstamendmentcenter.org. E-mail: chaynes@freedomforum.org.
    5722) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 704501)
    Posted 26 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What did you do with your 2001 rebate check?
    I went to McDonald's 100 times and super-sized! :)
    5723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Drill Sergeant (Message 704355)
    Posted 26 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Parallel talk.
    5724) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 704200)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    5725) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 704194)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Secretary Albright planning demise of Israel obviously,



    Or it might be interpreted as another secretary meeting someone because you have to.


    Name a time period since the late 1940s that the United States was not closely allied with Israel.
    5726) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 704119)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2004-02-18-college-flasher_x.htm
    5727) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 704117)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    http://brooklyngirl.livejournal.com/198145.html.
    5728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dr. Who in German Television (Message 704113)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aber Battlestar Galactica vergessen nicht, Sir Ulli.
    5729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 704039)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, this thread sure suffered in the past 24 hours.
    Get to it, viewers and posters! :)
    5730) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 704031)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    About the article... I see an agenda:
    Saddam wanted to maintain the image of a strong Iraq to deter Iran, its historic enemy, from hostile action.

    What Jeffrey is saying is that Iran and Iraq have never been enemies; that Iran was never hostile towards Iraq; and Saddam should not have been worrying so much that someday Iran would become hostile towards Iraq, since they'd always been neighborly buddies beforehand. ;-)
    5731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 703824)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    May I also add, R.I.P. Indy ... ?
    5732) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 703821)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note "admitted" is past tense.

    I can only imagine the libel that will miraculously crop up after I'm dead and gone... ;)

    I get the feeling you did not read the article.
    5733) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 703816)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From his grave? How C O N V E N I E N T... ;)

    Did you not click the link and read the article?
    Note "admitted" is past tense.
    5734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In Memory of Actor Heath Ledger (Message 703802)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=33d3b05e-9055-4b1d-a64b-3a046b34473a&entry=index&sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories.
    5735) Message boards : Politics : Saddam admitted he miscalculated ... (Message 703799)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080124/ts_nm/iraq_saddam_interrogator_dc_1.
    5736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Life on Mars? (Message 703796)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It looked like a large rock covered with dust and some of it was blown clean. And remember the face on mars? And it looked like the photo was zoomed in as far as the resolution would take.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080124/sc_space/femalefigureonmarsjustarock ... ?
    5737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ohferchrissakes. (Message 703792)
    Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

    A constant parade of rocket scientistic brilliance.


    I like brilliance.
    5738) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 703719)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats to Calm Chaos on the awesome 10 mil milestone!!


    Thanks SargeD.

    Just a drop in the bucket compared to you folks at SetiUSA....but we do our best...lol

    For the number of members you have, you are doing outstanding. Keep on crunching!!


    Yes it is, just look at these numbers (pulled from boincstats)

    SETI.USA:
    6046 users
    791,854,358 total credit
    130971.61 per user average

    Calm Chaos:
    64 users
    10,128,417 total credit
    158256.51 per user average

    That would put you well below average.


    Projects in which Daniel is participating
    Project
    Click for user page	Total credit	Average credit	Since
    Spinhenge@home 	24,267 	797 	5 Sep 2007
    Enigma@Home 	7,533 	329 	9 Dec 2007
    SHA-1 Collision Search Graz 	17,040 	54 	16 Oct 2007
    QMC@HOME 	1,938 	53 	25 Nov 2007
    MalariaControl 	503 	12 	25 Oct 2007
    Rosetta@home 	3,915 	9 	21 May 2007
    SETI@home 	5,145 	7 	21 May 2007
    ABC@home 	18,413 	7 	26 Oct 2007
    Einstein@Home 	4,255 	3 	30 May 2007
    PrimeGrid 	234 	1 	29 Oct 2007
    climateprediction.net 	95 	1 	2 Jan 2008
    SETI@home Beta 	1,272 	1 	5 Sep 2007
    TSP 	112 	0 	7 Dec 2007
    Belgian Beer@Home 	1 	0 	10 Aug 2007
    RieselSieve 	408 	0 	29 Oct 2007
    RALPH@Home 	27 	0 	5 Sep 2007
    Pirates@Home 	31 	0 	10 Aug 2007
    Sudoku 	699 	0 	14 Sep 2007
    MilkyWay@home 	57 	0 	25 Nov 2007


    Obviously, those who have crunched for a lesser amount of time are going to have a lower total credit. Even if one throws a lot of resources to the project(s), it is going to take some amount of time to catch up (if it is indeed possible at all).
    So, maybe we can look at RAC? Dan's seems to be doing fine.
    Ah, well, just doing my duty of dowsing flames while I have the S@H RAC to do so. Catch ya later! ;)
    5739) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 703714)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats to Calm Chaos on the awesome 10 mil milestone!!

    From one to another Sarge, thank you.
    5740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703584)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is amazing. Nearly 30 to 1 already.

    I click on it just to mark it read.....

    No! Not true! You find something important in this thread. ;)

    Like?

    Well, first, there's this stuff. Then that stuff. A little bit of the other stuff.

    Yup just some old stuff re stuffed....

    Unless one is always original. :)
    5741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703575)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is amazing. Nearly 30 to 1 already.

    I click on it just to mark it read.....

    No! Not true! You find something important in this thread. ;)

    Like?

    Well, first, there's this stuff. Then that stuff. A little bit of the other stuff.
    5742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#54 - CLOSED for a last Boddingtons for Dennis! (Message 703574)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a win, yo.
    5743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703565)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is amazing. Nearly 30 to 1 already.

    I click on it just to mark it read.....

    No! Not true! You find something important in this thread. ;)
    5744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703548)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is amazing. Nearly 30 to 1 already.
    5745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friend Request (Message 703448)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I just want to know why Eric is No. 2 on your list and Pappa is No. 1. :-p


    I didn't realize that the friends list was supposed to be ordered. Actually, I have no clue how to order it.... I've just accepted every friends request I've received and people just seem to show up on my list in a random order. Maybe E.T. has been ordering my list for me? Maybe it gets ordered based on posts and replies.

    I guess I should ask Eric how to put him at the top of the list, since he is and always will be my #1.

    Angela


    Did Eric start crunching for SETI Classic before it was announced to the public? Or did some people join and then he opened his account?
    It's not inconceivable that he led the way and yet did not open his account until a little later.
    From a limited look, my conjecture is that the ordering is based on date of account creation.
    5746) Message boards : Politics : "CENTER OF THE BIBLE" (Message 703415)
    Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#430894.
    5747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 703350)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of the most famous cases was the 1947 crash on a ranch near Roswell, N.M.

    1947 UFO crashes on earth...
    1950 Man creates first personal computer... (SIMON, Berkeley Enterprises)
    1969 Man lands on the moon...

    Almost 2000 years of nothing, then a technology boom... ;)


    #Search Results
    Thursday, January 10 10 pm Ancient Marvels: Ancient Computer? TVPG | cc. Friday, January 11 2 am Ancient Marvels: Ancient Computer? TVPG | cc ...
    history.com/search.do?...&searchText=Ancient+Discoveries - 47k - Cached 
    5748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 703330)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG! What a shock!!! That's terrible news!!! I'm really shocked. I spoke to Dennis on Skype for an hour, just couple of weeks ago. While he said he was not well, I had no idea he was so close to the end. :[[[

    We'll remember him a long time, those of us who knew him.

    Cheers Dennis, wherever you may be.


    In Memoriam









    What?!? You mean you spoke with him individually and not as part of a conference? I feel left out.


    Me too.
    We was talking 2 hours or more about seti and privates.


    I was kidding. :)
    I think after Europeaners were asleep, Dennis would see if he could get hold of me.
    But, the thread has moved on to a different, but important topic ... .
    5749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703323)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh - Look!

    there's one now.

    Misfit, a post .....? Nah, Misfit just talks alot, but that doesn't make him one of "those"


    Videos of posts: http://youtube.com/results?search_query=allman+%22whipping+post%22&search=Search.
    5750) Message boards : Politics : Fun with government rebates (Message 703322)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the spirit of the other "Fun With ..." threads, here's a place to discuss government rebate checks.
    5751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 703319)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Texas UFO Mystery Solved?
    5752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 703315)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    huh... there is life on Mars....



    More pics and story here.


    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/01/23/cooper.shot.tuesday.cnn.

    Called Sasquatchy-looking by some, it's also been rumored that Misfit is scheduled to be the first one allowed to fly to Mars and offer him beef jerky.
    5753) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 703286)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's exposed himself for what he really is.

    BOINC developer.
    :)
    5754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people II (Message 703284)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Cat stowaway makes it home again.
    5755) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 703076)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One view is that the discrepancies cannot be all that bad for SETI when one had an RAC of 1000-1100 while running SETI exclusively (or nearly so) but struggles to have it in the 600-700 range across a diversified portfolio of projects (with SETI merely minimized).
    5756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 703075)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now this thread is really taking off!
    Approximately a 20 views to 1 post ratio!
    5757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 703073)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG! What a shock!!! That's terrible news!!! I'm really shocked. I spoke to Dennis on Skype for an hour, just couple of weeks ago. While he said he was not well, I had no idea he was so close to the end. :[[[

    We'll remember him a long time, those of us who knew him.

    Cheers Dennis, wherever you may be.


    In Memoriam









    What?!? You mean you spoke with him individually and not as part of a conference? I feel left out.
    5758) Message boards : Politics : Bush Hawks Overthrown and Repudiated by Intelligence Community Coup (Message 702982)
    Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "secret supply routes (the Ho Chi Min trail)"

    Well I was only a SP-4 but even I knew about the ho chi min trail; how secret was it?


    Shhh! "Ancient Vietnamese Secret!" (Calgon?)
    5759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Denial of friendship (Message 702870)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just had to do it. A matter of conscience. Stuff like that. Not back anyway. Just a few parting words while fading away.
    5760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Viewers and Posters? (Message 702820)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come on, folks, we can do better than this!
    Let's get this thread's views/posts ratio higher.
    5761) Message boards : Politics : Credibility (Message 702700)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How far back are you going? [SNIP] Maybe the Crusades?

    Looking back that far might not be a bad idea.


    Those who do not understand history are bound to repeat it.


    Rik Emmett said something similar.
    5762) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 702699)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see the following:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22gerald+ratner%22+jewelry&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8 and http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gerald+ratner%22+jewelry&btnG=Google+Search.
    Is there a particular page we should look at?

    Now, here's where it is not comparable. BOINC and the projects are not corporations. There are no shareholders, but there are donators. JM7 pointed out before that there is no funding from an organization such as the US' National Science Foundation or that there had been but there is not any longer. (Please, anyone that can correct me or elaborate on this, please do so.)
    So, if I have my facts correct, if a bit scanty, then I guess it boils down to how the small donators and larger funders (does that sound like a term Dubya would make up? funders?) would react to whatever Dr. Anderson's decisions lead to from the volunteer cruncher community.
    OK, if that was hard to read, bear with me. I am off to bed.
    5763) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 702690)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's an interesting analogy. We'd have to think about whether the two situations are really comparable.
    5764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky and DogByte's Closed (Message 702689)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I've been toasting to Dennis a few days now, but vacation's ending. (And there was work to do during that time, anyway.)
    From Skype conferences, Dennis knew if I went quiet, I was multi-tasking/working. Right, Chris, Es, Thorin, John and Keith? (Mike, when we spoke, I'd actually put the work away!)
    5765) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 702670)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just saddened that the foremost project is underfunded & undermanned. However, should it's leadership become totally isolated in their ivory towers, then it deserves to die a weary death.

    Well, careful there.
    There may be truth to the underfunded/undermanned concern. So, there's always the donation route to go for the first. For the second, I do not know what to tell you. People have talked about whether the WUs we've returned get analyzed. How many people in the world could get together to both determine how to analyze and how that should get coded?
    Not me. My intelligences/skills lie elsewhere, even though growing up 30 miles from Cornell (where Carl Sagan taught) made my first thoughts of going into academia be about astronomy.
    As for the second, please recall that there is both the leadership of this flagship project and then there's leadership of the overall BOINC efforts. They're neither the same nor mutually exclusive and the people in the intersection do not have to be in agreement on all things.
    5766) Message boards : Politics : Bin Laden's son speaks (Message 702660)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey's post is too short to be clear on his meaning.

    The american way of life:

    'Like father, like son.'
    'A chip off the old block.'
    'The apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.'

    Am I gonna have to start explaining these little riddles again? ;)


    Yet I have heard ... and observed, that it can go two ways: 0 degrees from the father or 180 degrees from the father. Only the first applies to your third quote. And, eventually, someone will admit it's actually a continuum and produce studies to show the painfully obvious. :)
    5767) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 702658)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The question then is would the main sites be willing to make steps to cross project equalistaion, if they don't already comply to the +/-20% ruling.
    With the follow on question, would enough volunteers join test projects if the credits don't contribute to the main BOINC statistics.

    There are other distributed computing projects that are not using BOINC. Some of my teammates run them. I understand Folding@Home is one such project? So, apparently, there are volunteers joining projects not at all concerned about BOINC credits.
    5768) Message boards : Politics : Credibility (Message 702628)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How far back are you going? [SNIP] Maybe the Crusades?

    Looking back that far might not be a bad idea.
    5769) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 702626)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You volunteered to work here and if you don't like it simply leave rather than whine over credits. geesh

    It is correct that we have volunteered. It is not appropriate to characterize this as "work." We ourselves do not do work. We have set our machines to do work for the various projects that interest us. The poster's characterization of the discussion that has gone on in this thread so far as "whining" is odd. For someone that has only crunched for the project for 3-4 months to tell people to go away is even stranger. Where (from whom) have we heard such things before?
    5770) Message boards : Politics : Bin Laden's son speaks (Message 702589)
    Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In contrast to 'the american way of life', it would appear that warmongering isn't hereditary among muslims... ;)


    But warmongering is hereditary among Americans or Westerners?

    Or is warmongering more hereditary among us 'evil' Western cultures and society and not the eastern and other cultures?




    Jeffrey's post is too short to be clear on his meaning.
    So, let's focus instead on what Bin Laden's son said.
    I was a bit disappointed. It was not a complete repudiation of his father/terrorism. But, it was a fairly big step for him to express disagreement and to tell his father to end the violence. So, it's still something for those who claim no Muslims speak/spoke out against 9/11 to consider.
    5771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Did ANYBODY miss Lester ? (Message 702539)
    Posted 21 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No offense, Lester, but you did not even cross my mind. ;)
    5772) Message boards : Politics : Bin Laden's son speaks (Message 702507)
    Posted 21 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.cnn.com/video/.
    Go to most popular videos and learn more.
    CNN's Aneesh Raman talks with the son of Osama bin Laden, who says his father should stop fighting.
    5773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 702501)
    Posted 21 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.cnn.com/video/.
    Go to most popular videos and learn more about what's been going on in Stephenville, Texas.
    (Note: the poster makes no assumptions about the origins of said objects.)
    5774) Message boards : Politics : Is It Right.....? (Message 701996)
    Posted 20 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is critical to the success of volunteer computing that participation
    be based on factors like scientific merit - not points per CPU sec.

    Who gets to decide the scientific merit? The National Science Foundation? The BOINC admins? What about people participating in whatever project they darn well please, regardless of credit? I submit to you, fellow BOINCers, that number three will have the most influence.
    5775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 701992)
    Posted 20 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Here is Dennis being very serious in his role as a seti mod.

    I am absolutely devastated and shocked at the news of his death....


    That was probably one of my posts he was modding. :)
    Glad we made amends.
    The strange thing is, on Christmas morning, I kept accidentally pressing "Dogbytes" instead of "Dad" when I was trying to call my Dad on Skype. Maybe I should have let it keep ringing. We might have known sooner that something was wrong.
    5776) Message boards : Politics : "CENTER OF THE BIBLE" (Message 701511)
    Posted 19 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - if you cannot find it, I am sure Jeffrey will help you out. He's the polar opposite of BrainSmashR. Does that mean you like him (enemy of your enemy is a friend) or do you hate them both equally?
    5777) Message boards : Politics : "CENTER OF THE BIBLE" (Message 701504)
    Posted 19 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've read in the Bible, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
    5778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#53 - CLOSED IN MEMORY OF DOGBYTES (Message 701401)
    Posted 19 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    May we declare Dennis the honorary winner?
    5779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people II (Message 701259)
    Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:










    5780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : RIP Dogbytes (Message 701249)
    Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    R.I.P., Dennis.
    :(
    5781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 701156)
    Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For those that do not know, it's been going on in Stephenville, Texas.
    http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=texas+ufo&ei=UTF-8
    5782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 701128)
    Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, uhhh .... erryboddy heard 'bout them thar spozd UFOs in Texas thar, right?
    5783) Message boards : Number crunching : Apostasy (for a day) !! Group Action! (Message 700928)
    Posted 17 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looking at Einstein, they seem to have a well defined plan for their computing. Right now, they report needing 375d at their current volunteer computing rate, to complete the current dataset.

    I think people are getting things backwards here.
    If I have correctly understood this portion of the original post, the idea is to get several people to temporarily crunch for Einstein and crunch hard to help quickly complete what needs to be done on a data set. The idea is to put a positive dent in Einstein's work rather than a negative dent in SETI's.
    Do I understand correctly, PhonAcq?
    [EDIT: BTW, I am not sure what measurement is being abbreviated by the d that follows the 375.]


    The 'd' represents "days"...

    I was going to mention the same thing as you did as well. I understood the idea to be more of a "help Einstein" rather than "hurt SETI".


    I guessed it was 375 days.
    Now ... . Let's think about this and maybe he was right after all and was not talking about hurting SETI.
    What's the combined Einstein RAC? Whatever it is, divide 375 by C (C = combined RAC). Next, set a goal for how many days to change 375 to. Let's say 100 days.

    (375 / C) = (100 / C_New).
    C_New = ((100 * C) / 375); i.e., C_New = (4/15) * C.

    So, how many crunchers would it take to increase C to the new combined RAC for Einstein (C_New). How would one calculate that? Maybe by having some info as to what the average RAC for any cruncher is (regardless of what and how many projects they crunch for). (Of course, there's that whole issue about cross-project comparisons that's being discussed in another thread.)
    Without having numbers for C and the average RAC for all BOINC crunchers, I'm not sure, but I am beginning to think he's right and it'd be hard to put a positive dent into Einstein.
    5784) Message boards : Number crunching : Apostasy (for a day) !! Group Action! (Message 700908)
    Posted 17 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looking at Einstein, they seem to have a well defined plan for their computing. Right now, they report needing 375d at their current volunteer computing rate, to complete the current dataset.

    I think people are getting things backwards here.
    If I have correctly understood this portion of the original post, the idea is to get several people to temporarily crunch for Einstein and crunch hard to help quickly complete what needs to be done on a data set. The idea is to put a positive dent in Einstein's work rather than a negative dent in SETI's.
    Do I understand correctly, PhonAcq?
    [EDIT: BTW, I am not sure what measurement is being abbreviated by the d that follows the 375.]
    5785) Message boards : Number crunching : California News Channel reports SETI signal received (Message 700678)
    Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bah. I should have thought of trying to track the full article down from the university library resources online as well.
    Doesn't look like the journal is subscribed to, nor any nice links to free copies of a pdf file of it.
    But, I did find this: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=A+Bright+Millisecond+Radio+Burst+of+Extragalactic+Origin.&ie=utf8&oe=utf8.
    5786) Message boards : Number crunching : California News Channel reports SETI signal received (Message 700635)
    Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/sci;318/5851/777

    Clicking the link resulted in:

    The content you requested requires a AAAS member subscription to this site or Science Pay per Article purchase. If you already have a user name and password, please sign in below.
    5787) Message boards : Politics : Thread closed due to lack of interest. (Message 694911)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In this thread, we trade stories about the fairy tale of a perfect economic system, be it capitalism, socialism, message-bored-ism or whatever.
    5788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 4 (Message 694875)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy New Year!!!
    5789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Fun! (Message 694867)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is politically incorrect. :P
    5790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How was your Christmas ? (Message 694865)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know what would scare capitalists? Remembering that Jesus is the reason for the season and next year millions of people boycotting this whole stupid buying presents for one another thing. ;)
    5791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC Smileys; Meet Albert BOINCstein! (Message 694862)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Several more have been added; http://www.boincteams.com/viewtopic.php?t=303



    This one is pritty cool!





    Albert as the devil just is not cool.
    5792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : my thought for the day (Message 694860)
    Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
    Bill Watterson



    Well said!
    Hear, hear!
    5793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 694632)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Merry Christmas Knightmare.


    Thank you, Monday. Merry Christmas to you too. :-)


    Merry Christmas, KnightMaTe.
    5794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's your favorite boinc projects (Message 694630)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think you mean, "What are your favorite BOINC projects?" Or, perhaps, "What is your favorite BOINC project?"
    5795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694617)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice to Know You
    5796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Fun! (Message 694613)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fun for fun's sake, for Pete's sake!
    (Disclaimer: by Pete, I mean Saint Peter, as usually referred to in the well-known phrase, and not anyone here with the real name Pete.)
    5797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Holidays to the Berkeley ADmins . . . CLOSED (Message 694552)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've given the best present of which I can possibly think: my RAC is dropping like a rock and I've moved on to other projects. ;) I know many have done the same.


    Do you think they do care.


    No.

    Let them have fun in the silence.


    They will. There are more than 30 people that have left and are silent. :)
    5798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Holidays to the Berkeley ADmins . . . CLOSED (Message 694535)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've given the best present of which I can possibly think: my RAC is dropping like a rock and I've moved on to other projects. ;) I know many have done the same.
    5799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694534)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jesus is the Reason for the Season! :)

    Merry Christmas from banished: ID 230276 and the other co-owners of the Acoustic Open Mic Club! Check out some of the peaceful music here! :)
    5800) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 694436)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Calm Chaos is going for the top!
    5801) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 694433)
    Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join Calm Chaos.
    A Team of great people, who talk to each other and have Fun.
    Our team has spirit ... Yuletide, Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa and Robonodan ... all that spirit rolled into one.
    We don't just crunch for SETI, we're not made up only of USA citizens and when we BOINC, our synergy is homegrown, personal and effective.
    5802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694363)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jesus is the Reason for the Season! :)
    5803) Message boards : Number crunching : Yet another forum update bug (Message 694219)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The current comicbook format of the forum says a lot about the professionalism of a scientific project!!!!

    Give us those profile pix and avatars mucking up the main pages and threads back! :)
    5804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We want our messy forum back! (Message 694217)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Give us those profile pix and avatars mucking up the main pages and threads back! :)
    5805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694214)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=43277
    5806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694206)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44276&nowrap=true#694177
    5807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simpsons' Quotes Threads (Message 694136)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "D'oh!"
    "Oh, Homey!"
    5808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694135)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Love me Tender.

    Love me Tender...]Elvis.

    I like Elvis.

    How old are you?
    I was born in '57...about when Elvis was ramping up...
    My momma once told me that all of the nurses in the hospital where I was born nicknamed me Elvis cus I was born with a shock of black hair on my head.
    Ir's gotten a bit gray now.......

    I can't tell you.
    It's somewhere in the threads, anyway.
    Besides, someone will claim I am actually younger than I have said and someone else will claim I am older than I have said.
    5809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . avatars - everywhere (Message 694125)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I dunno, seems kind of over the top in the "I love me" arrogance department.
    I mean, most of us use avatars, but this seems a bit much. :-)

    More Homer! Start a thread!
    5810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694121)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Love me Tender.

    Love me Tender...]Elvis.

    I like Elvis.
    5811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694109)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    5812) Message boards : Number crunching : Sluggish Seti forums (Message 694103)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I aint got time to f*** around with sluggish forums. I'll just go elsewhere to pass the time. It might not make any difference, anyway. Who cares? Probably nobody.

    He changed his screen name to Dr. C.E.T.I.
    5813) Message boards : Number crunching : Yet another forum update bug (Message 694095)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bug or not, this new "feature" of the avatars is plain old stupid, IMO.

    Let's see... BOINC developer / administrator goes "Oh, look, I have a new "high powered" web server. Let's add more features!!!!"

    DOH! All these features are tied to database performance metrics, so now when the splitters go crazy, the forums are even slower... Considering the close proximity (UCB), it is insane that this would be attempted knowing the struggles that the project is going through...

    Real brilliant...

    Oh, and the "friends" thing, this is not a social networking site. This is not Myspace, Facebook, LiveJournal, Friendster, etc, etc, etc...

    Bah humbug!

    Edit: Clarifying that I know that this is a BOINC thing, not SETI-specific


    Agree with you on all of the above....Hate it, just hate it. But to stay on a more constructive note....if the Boinc developers really feel this is an enhancement to the Boinc featureset, then they should allow it to be turned on or off by each project admin. And I would pray that Seti turns it off.


    David Anderson, this is great! It makes the SETI@Home forums look like MySpace! Yes, this is precisely what an interested, intelligent public at large that is considering crunching needs to be drawn in! It is also what will keep those of who have been around a while constantly coming back!
    Yes, indeed, it is great.
    Forum moderators should be standing behind the developers' decisions rather than quibbling with them.
    5814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694041)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Love me Tender.
    5815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . avatars - everywhere (Message 694027)
    Posted 24 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . what say YOU - do you like the avatars (for one's 'Profile') everywhere ?


    err... NO.... Blech!


    By your command.
    5816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sarge Poem ... The Sarge went a Kilroy-ing (Message 694007)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    May y'all,
    this yule,
    have either a Calm
    or a Chaotic
    Christmas.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM CALM CHAOS!!!
    5817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 694006)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Obi-Wan said, "Well, hello there!"
    5818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693893)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nutshell
    5819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693892)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sailing Ships
    5820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693891)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hourglass
    5821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693890)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sketches in the Sun
    5822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693889)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the Love of God
    5823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693887)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Burning Bushes - The Moon
    5824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693884)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Serenity
    5825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 693883)
    Posted 23 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=sj2xXCt5lu0
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VXQH5sgVMww
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=GnzssOX9cq0
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=9lKZJdvN-Mk
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yF-41wbouXw
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcCOwxI7M40
    5826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Holidays to the Berkeley ADmins . . . CLOSED (Message 693316)
    Posted 21 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Merry Christmas to anyone that still has the bits that are willing to say 'Merry Christmas' instead of 'Happy Holidays'.


    My bits are all present and accounted for.

    Merry Christmas Robert. And Merry Christmas to all!

    Who's "Robert" ?


    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=43903&nowrap=true#692179

    Crotchety One Profile
    Volunteer tester

    Joined: May 26 99
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    Message 692179 - Posted 17 Dec 2007 7:08:05 UTC - in response to Message ID 692024.

    Robert.....
    You are pointing long pointy sticks at some who do not appreciate it.
    If Dr. Ceti's peace posts do not appeal to you, view them (or not) and move on.
    There is no need to post a complaint about it.



    Who is "Robert" ? I don't see a "Robert" posting in this thread. Is that some kind of slang insult at someone?



    If you are not Robert, what is your interest?




    You directed a statement at "Robert" and I don't see a "Robert" posting (or pointing) anything in this thread.


    Should we assume you are delusional? Seeing "Robert"s that don't exist?



    Robert is "Scary Capitalist", unless of course you don't remember his prior display name, which is what I'm assuming. :-)




    Now, was that so hard? What was the previous name?
    5827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 692987)
    Posted 20 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have not seen any new buttons lately.
    5828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people.... (Message 692172)
    Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22912202-921,00.html
    5829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people.... (Message 692171)
    Posted 17 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9833107-7.html
    5830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 692064)
    Posted 16 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    5831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 692021)
    Posted 16 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread ownership transfered.
    5832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Post Closed #{[(52]} (Message 691903)
    Posted 16 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, good!

    The air cleared while I was unconscious


    poot
    5833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sarge Poem ... The Sarge went a Kilroy-ing (Message 691538)
    Posted 15 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When Sarge went through the threads so bold,
    The actions against him were so cold,
    I never thought I’d see the day,
    When my friends were treated this way.

    One day the legends will be told
    and the intrigue unfold.
    An avalanche began in May,
    now rolling down the mountain, come what may.
    5834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Sarge Poem ... The Sarge went a Kilroy-ing (Message 691411)
    Posted 14 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No degrees, you say each night?
    Share as you please. No copyright.

    You thought Zen was then,
    but you never know when ...
    when to drop dough.
    Although
    you played
    a mighty fine game
    it's all the same.
    5835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 690425)
    Posted 10 Dec 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember what I said in May or June?
    I win!!!
    5836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681922)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Haven't We Been Here Before?.
    5837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681919)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Duel of the Fates.
    5838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681916)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shell Shock.
    5839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681914)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Joey.
    ("Houston, we have a problem!")
    5840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681913)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Family Picnic.
    5841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681907)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm Not Amused.
    5842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681903)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    311 covers Love Song.
    5843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681899)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Take a Picture.
    5844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681896)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Exploding Girl.
    5845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681894)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darling Pretty.
    5846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681892)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Twisted.
    5847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681889)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07nv09WiufA&feature=related.
    5848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681886)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How.
    5849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681880)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Long Way Down.
    5850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681876)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Humans Being.
    5851) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681872)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shock to the System.
    5852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : did anybody watch Larry King Live last night? (Message 681802)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That Larry King show has made it to the net. Click



    Thanks, A/C.
    5853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681709)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Finally Free.
    5854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread [2] (Message 681699)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think its much better now.

    Warrior Hearts Video.

    Its a title song of an german fantasy movie.
    7.25 mins long.
    release date august 2007.

    Have fun.



    OK, this one I can see.
    5855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread [2] (Message 681693)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heartbreak Station - Cinderella

    Band image


    Thanks for posting that A/C as I've never seen the video to it. One of the only albums from the hairbands that I still listen to. Nice song.


    Whoa. All these years and it's Cinderella you're still listening to? (Shaking my head.)
    5856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 3 (Message 681686)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is that Dr. 54rg3? Why doesn't he get his own coffee?

    I think that is Sarge; but he doesn't really want the coffee here.

    Oh, well it's not real coffee anyway.

    If it's coffee, I'll drink it, so long as no one spikes it. ;)
    Welcome back, Uncle Chuck my good friend! Do you like coffee?

    Is that you Sarge? I think I saw something about you doing some post-graduate work, so that might explain the name change. Yes, I like coffee, but the stuff here is Cyber-Coffee. I like this thread, because it is usually pretty quiet. Sometimes I even get a wild hair and post something.

    I'd like some minty flavoring in my coffee, please. :)
    5857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Technical changes (Message 681684)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They are All green to me.. ;-)

    Moon, nothing to see here! Move along! ;)
    5858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Technical changes (Message 681674)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing to see here.
    Move along. ;)
    5859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 3 (Message 681672)
    Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is that Dr. 54rg3? Why doesn't he get his own coffee?

    I think that is Sarge; but he doesn't really want the coffee here.

    Oh, well it's not real coffee anyway.

    If it's coffee, I'll drink it, so long as no one spikes it. ;)
    Welcome back, Uncle Chuck my good friend! Do you like coffee?
    5860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TESTING FOR SIGNATURES AND BBCODE (Message 681643)
    Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've got a code I am going to try soon.
    Stay tuned.
    5861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 3 (Message 681642)
    Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is that a hostess/server I see. ;)
    Well, hello there!
    5862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TESTING FOR SIGNATURES AND BBCODE (Message 681632)
    Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New image shack test:::

    move along...nuttin' to see here...



    I do not see anything.
    5863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 3 (Message 681631)
    Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I need coffee.
    5864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 681250)
    Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Matthew!
    Do you have any poems or acoustical jams to share with us?
    5865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 680707)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Try dating one, then, Chris.
    5866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 680664)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Unfortunately, guys, I am not allowed to say.

    Sworn to secrecy or is he just stringing you along?

    Cosmic stringing.
    5867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 680583)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Grrr. Not redhead pix again.
    5868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 680578)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Unfortunately, guys, I am not allowed to say.
    5869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save me from msattler's kitty threads (Message 680573)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, at least this one is still open, even though it was the thread precisely opposite from mine. :) I still say, PROTECT THE SETI KITTIES!
    5870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Technical changes (Message 680467)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi!

    I see there have been many technical changes here in SETI@home web site. Almost every week there is something new. For example, "Send private message" is not a link anymore, it is a button now. I also noticed that when I watch someone's message history I cannot see the texts "Cafe SETI", "Number Crucnhing" etc. anymore. :(

    Sometimes I like changes, sometimes I do not...


    Henri, it's what's called "Let's tinker with the forums to make it look like we're doing something and deflect attention." I particularly like how the Inbox no longer requires them to click on the title of each message when they snoop through our inboxes. :)
    5871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . vOices in yOur head? (Message 680437)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or is it your's?
    5872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to change all kitty threads into squirrel threads (Message 680434)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been cloned? Heavens!
    5873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 680433)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just in!
    As you all know, I am in 'frequent' communication with the esteemed Dr. Eric Korpela.
    He has informed me that, to maintain balance, he will have both auto-cats and auto-squirrels!
    Brilliant!

    Eric's made at me now for letting everyone know we talked about this.
    I'm sorry.
    I won't tell anyone about any more of the auto- experiments.
    Promise.
    (Well, maybe except "Auto-Shutdown.")
    5874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 680431)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please compare MODERN S.L. to pre-modern S.L.
    (Some moved on to post-modernism quite a few decades ago.)
    5875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 680332)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah! Yeah! My AutoSquirrels thread is still open! Yeah! Take that! ;)
    5876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Arizona Moon`s coconut posting thread ;-) (Message 680077)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I assume this is a thread about coconuts and occasionally crabs?
    No kittys?
    5877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people.... (Message 680075)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes...this is the official kitty thread. I will be closing the others to avoid confusion. Gotta run right now, but I will post again when I get home.

    Just trying to make sure you can keep 'em here, msattler! :)
    Of course, this is the one and only "Official Kitty Cafe"!
    Don't worry, when others complain about the kitty threads, I will tell them, "If you don't like the kitty threads, just steer around them. Don't read in them or post in them."
    You would not believe the moaning I've heard about them from a vocal minority.
    5878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thanks to MY cat-like reflexes ... (Message 680069)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this an official kitty thread? :)
    5879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 679834)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just in!
    As you all know, I am in 'frequent' communication with the esteemed Dr. Eric Korpela.
    He has informed me that, to maintain balance, he will have both auto-cats and auto-squirrels!
    Brilliant!

    Yea, just what it says in my signature - Brilliant! ;)

    I did sort of steal it from your toolbar.
    But ... ummm, do you prefer dogs, cats or squirrels?
    P.S.: Good seeing you at the pub today.
    5880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoSquirrels: Experiment Mach 3 (Message 679827)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just in!
    As you all know, I am in 'frequent' communication with the esteemed Dr. Eric Korpela.
    He has informed me that, to maintain balance, he will have both auto-cats and auto-squirrels!
    Brilliant!
    5881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to change all kitty threads into squirrel threads (Message 679821)
    Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will it fly?
    5882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save me from msattler's kitty threads (Message 679688)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trust me....I think about a year ago I made a joke which went unappreciated by ths so callled 'M Sattler' IF THAT IS HIS REAL NAME! . :-P

    He sent his evil cats my way...and I have been biting my tongue ever since.

    I swear to you that one of them mated with local racoons and the offspring are still doing his bidding......

    I'm still uncertain as to the outcome and resolution and so forth. Some say it's due to illegal immigrants. Others claim 'supernatural infestations' (see Knightmare's threads)

    I'm not certain yet. Aggggaaa hahahhagggggahahheagg. <that's me being strangled by strange creatures.


    KITTY HATER!!!
    You're siding with the Trotskyites on this, you know.
    5883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Meoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww, The kitties are here. (Message 679609)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here is another one. this is Puck @ two weeks.

    That's a cute cat.
    5884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679589)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    TAZ, Yoda, Fosdick, and Puck are my cats and we all say keep your hands off the kitty threads!!!!

    And the Eagle has landed.
    5885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoCats: An Experiment (Message 679588)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Only for the mice.
    5886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoCats: An Experiment (Message 679587)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AutoCat at work.

    LOL!
    Good one!
    Any more like that?
    5887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people.... (Message 679534)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All beware The Kitten Claw.

    Rock on, kittiez!
    5888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679522)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I implore all posters, do not allow this! I, for one, read and enjoy all of the kitty threads! Not only are the threads cute, but you can also glean useful information from them.


    I wonder? Is it because he is now a moderator?

    I'm adding my support - Leave the KITTIES alone!


    No.
    The kitties threads have been around long before msattler became a mod. Unfortunately, people not even associated with the project have been e-mail admin saying, "Hey, I just saw your SETI@Home forums. Did you know you have many threads devoted to kitties? They're kinda ... sleepy."

    Well, actually I already leave them alone. No even looked inside one or another of them hardly for a long time. I'm more worried about the kittie threads expanding like the red martian weed and have nightmares about the tripod Martians coming to get me! :( help! Even my cats are scared :(



    Spot on! If you don't like kitties, don't look in the threads!
    5889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679519)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I implore all posters, do not allow this! I, for one, read and enjoy all of the kitty threads! Not only are the threads cute, but you can also glean useful information from them.


    I wonder? Is it because he is now a moderator?

    I'm adding my support - Leave the KITTIES alone!


    No.
    The kitties threads have been around long before msattler became a mod. Unfortunately, people not even associated with the project have been e-mail admin saying, "Hey, I just saw your SETI@Home forums. Did you know you have many threads devoted to kitties? They're kinda ... sleepy."


    Unfortunately, now, we have a vocal minority (leftist Trotskyites) that do not like fluffy kitties egging admin on, calling for the removal of the kitty threads. :(
    5890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679514)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I implore all posters, do not allow this! I, for one, read and enjoy all of the kitty threads! Not only are the threads cute, but you can also glean useful information from them.


    I wonder? Is it because he is now a moderator?

    I'm adding my support - Leave the KITTIES alone!


    No.
    The kitties threads have been around long before msattler became a mod. Unfortunately, people not even associated with the project have been e-mail admin saying, "Hey, I just saw your SETI@Home forums. Did you know you have many threads devoted to kitties? They're kinda ... sleepy."
    5891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : AutoCats: An Experiment (Message 679511)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rumor has it that Eric is going to start a new experiment, 366 days after the original. An experiment where the only mods are ... you guessed it ... CATS!
    Would AutoCats be a good idea ... or not?
    5892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save me from msattler's kitty threads (Message 679496)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew it!!! The first kitty hater has stepped forward!
    5893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679494)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . o O (Has anyone heard the rumor about "Autocats: An Experiment"?)
    5894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 679490)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.
    G. K. Chesterton
    English author & mystery novelist (1874 - 1936)

    Eating of cheese
    tends to cause a breeze
    that does not blow with ease.
    But,
    when it does ...
    it's in "thy general direction."
    5895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Meoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww, The kitties are here. (Message 679489)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ewww!
    5896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679488)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am inclined to say yes.
    5897) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Meoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww, The kitties are here. (Message 679466)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Matthew, post those in the "A petition to save msattler's kitty threads" thread! :) Let's support ALL the fluffy kittens.
    5898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A petition to save msattler's kitty threads (Message 679461)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right now, in the not so-distant background, there is an insidious plot working for the removal of msattler's various kitty threads. They are trying to bend the ear of admin and a minority of mods that will still listen to them.

    I implore all posters, do not allow this! I, for one, read and enjoy all of the kitty threads! Not only are the threads cute, but you can also glean useful information from them.

    Sign here if you want the kitty threads to stay.

    (And an avatar with a fluffy kitten is a clever disguise!)
    5899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 679460)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is needed at the Cafe is honest people, not people who deny they were called when requested:

    Jul 07, 2007 21:27;+1704*******;USA;call;03:08;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 00:58;+1989*******;USA;call;00:54;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:30;+1704*******;USA;call;11:32;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:43;+1704*******;USA;call;00:49;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:44;+1704*******;USA;call;00:54;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:45;+1704*******;USA;call;01:00;USD 0.000;


    See, that's the difference between 'claiming' all your calls are logged and also recorded, versus actual log evidence.

    And Mr. Doctor.....just what are you really talking about??

    Yes.. I am confused too. It doesn't seem to be about kitties at all.


    Es99! Although you have a fluffy kitten pictured in your avatar, we all know you are anti-kitten! Please, do not hurt msattler's non-offensive kitty threads in an anti-kitty campaign. Please!
    5900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Meoooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww, The kitties are here. (Message 679459)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Careful.
    Word has it the restless masses are getting tired of the kitties.
    Next thing you know, Esme will use her mind control tricks on us and send us on a anti-kitty campaign.
    5901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : whAt Is nEEded @ tHe SETI Cafe . . . (Message 679227)
    Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is needed at the Cafe is honest people, not people who deny they were called when requested:

    Jul 07, 2007 21:27;+1704*******;USA;call;03:08;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 00:58;+1989*******;USA;call;00:54;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:30;+1704*******;USA;call;11:32;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:43;+1704*******;USA;call;00:49;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:44;+1704*******;USA;call;00:54;USD 0.000;
    Jul 07, 2007 21:45;+1704*******;USA;call;01:00;USD 0.000;


    See, that's the difference between 'claiming' all your calls are logged and also recorded, versus actual log evidence.
    5902) Message boards : Politics : . . . U.S. Veteran's PETITION (Message 678691)
    Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://click2gov.monroenc.org/agendamanager/City%20Council/2007-08/21-18-30/Action%20Agenda.pdf.
    See p. 4 of the four page pdf document?
    33. Public Comment Period
    A. Libby Long --– Request for Meeting with City Council and Town of Fairview officials --- Agreed
    B. Garland B. Denny --– Remarks in support of Veterans Stamp -- No Action
    5903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posting and YOU... (Message 678552)
    Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    w4+ch 0u+!!!

    Methinks we need a cryptologist for the cryptographer... ;)


    Change the y for an a and you'd be about right....




    Somebody mention Crap?


    Watch out crapped.
    I mean, watch out for crap.
    5904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posting and YOU... (Message 678187)
    Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I 'now' know WHO is posting WHAT and HOW ... and bElieve mi when I tell you ... be VERY assured ... 'I' am watching YOU. :)

    Uh oh! ;)

    w4+ch 0u+!!!
    5905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Posting and YOU... (Message 677907)
    Posted 14 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I 'now' know WHO is posting WHAT and HOW ... and bElieve mi when I tell you ... be VERY assured ... 'I' am watching YOU. :)
    5906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : did anybody watch Larry King Live last night? (Message 677352)
    Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember many head of states have someone psychic maybe the most open one was american president Reagan.


    Apparently true, from what I have heard.

    it is quite logical that if any politician goes to church that means he is ready to listen to psychics or someone in that business


    Untrue! Indeed, fundamentalist Christians are told to stay far away from psychics and other such people. If you call it logical, then back up your statements.

    Finally, to Ratava: I believe the thing going on yesterday was not much of announcement. Just that some people are lobbying to have investigations into UFOs, for national security reasons, re-opened. Please see my post in KM's MLC thread, where I provided a link.
    5907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 11 ) (Message 677062)
    Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071112/ts_nm/usa_ufos_dc_1.
    5908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 676669)
    Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Morning Beets and also Good Morning to Champ...Breakfast looks scrumptious!


    Good Morning, Dan!

    Have you ever tried Corned Beef Hash? With egg yolk running down it, it's absolutely delicious! :]]

    I usually like my egg yolk well cooked and coagulated...the runny yolk is not my favorite thing.

    Aha! I understand. I'm just curious though, do they serve Corned Beef Hash in England?

    I think so...But then i'm from Illinois!


    OMG! I always thought you were from England; you're up early in the day with the rest of the English. You have the good manners of an English gentleman to the manor born, so I was completely fooled. hahahah!

    I'm so sorry about the mistake, Dan. No offence intended!

    No offense taken...I am a well mannered savage beast in real life.


    Wow! A man as Real online as he is In Real Life?! That IS rare!


    Someone call ?

    Now here comes a real English gentleman.


    Quite so! Quite so! Hear Hear!

    I always pictured you, (and Chris, too) as living in Tiptoe Farm, Cornhill, Northumberland. :]]






    The funny thing is, Beets keeps getting corrected about where Dan's from and he keeps making the mistake! :)
    You do know, Beets, that I am in Ireland, don't you?
    5909) Message boards : Politics : Egoism---an alternative (Message 676460)
    Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Wouldn't dare not be in one?" You must have worked for some miserable employers in your life. And that is severely limiting your employment prospects as actual union membership has diminished sharply since the end of WWII, from about a third of workers to about 10 percent now and on the way down.

    Why? Because they've priced themselves out of the market.

    What a great plan.


    Well, Rush, this too should fall under your "Why? Becuz u sez so?" mantra. Provide evidence of it.
    I'm not saying I disagree with you.
    In fact, I've had the impression that unions can themselves become a bureaucracy in place of the bureaucracy they were supposed to be protecting the individuals from. But, this is just an impression and I have not researched this matter, so I cannot provide evidence.
    I don't make my decisions of where to work based on whether there is a union or not. However, I have not sought to undermine a union when there is one at a place where I work, nor have I fought to organize a union when there is not one at a place where I work.
    Heck, work keeps me too busy to do the latter!
    5910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 676179)
    Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes
    words fail.
    Topics of the rhymes
    growing stale.
    And in spite
    of all logic and tact,
    you're not right,
    despite all the facts.
    5911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 675781)
    Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't start BOINC'ing yesterday, you know! :)
    5912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 675736)
    Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Were have everyone gone??
    Ok.. i shall be my own company
    Maybe play some music.. ;-)
    Fly me.......

    ... Courageous?!?
    5913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 675410)
    Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We need some background music in this cafe..
    Here..i`ll put on some ;-) enjoy.
    Song from a Secret Garden

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbx-ij-XKYk
    5914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 675097)
    Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, Dominique's post of the x-ray made things quite clear. As I'd said, I had only heard the news in passing, so she provided me some info I did not have either.
    5915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 675040)
    Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks to Ratava and Dominique for following up when I pointed out Lakshmi's case was not about "normalcy."
    5916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 674251)
    Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:




    This just in...


    Lakshrni, a two year-old girl born with four arms and four legs, just went a successful operation in Bangelor, India, to amputate the extra four appendages.

    My question is: why didn't they just leave well enough alone? I think she would have had a very interesting life with the extra four limbs.







    Are we taking "normalcy" too far?


    Uhhh ... I did not get to hear too much about this, but ... . This was not about normalcy. I believe the term was along the lines of "parasitic (Siamese?) twin." She was endangered. It had to be done.
    5917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 673844)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i like a nice rac

    Sometimes they droop. :)
    5918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 673789)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, I think Chris is going to be jealous of this co-ownership!
    BTW, Chris speaks in a very distinguished manner via Skype.


    Well well, so Beets got the girl eh?

    And a very good evening to you Mr S. I thank you for your kind words there. I also thought that you expressed yourself in an efficacious manner.

    However, I fully expect to be shown to the best table in this establshment, when I frequent it :-)




    Leave it to Chris to use a word I have to look up!
    Ah, yes. Thank you. It was good to know my connection was one of the clearest ones.
    5919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 673748)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, I think Chris is going to be jealous of this co-ownership!
    BTW, Chris speaks in a very distinguished manner via Skype.
    5920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 673744)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    oooh

    Don't worry, Alex. It does not all have to be all acoustic. After 9 p.m., when the kids are gone, the amps go to distortion and Jesus turns coffee into beer. :)
    (BTW, what do you think of the RAC?)
    5921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 673735)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is now co-owned by Sarge and Daniel Michel!
    5922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****Moon and Beethoven's Cafe XIV - Everyone's Welcome!!!**** - CLOSED! (Message 673734)
    Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew who Beets referred to with "Moon," and I am barely here! So there, Dan! :)
    5923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Video editing program? (Message 672790)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not believe Windows Movie Maker can handle .flv's, so ignore my suggestion.
    I paid $29.95 for another editor to use in my math education research, which can switch between file formats. Otherwise, if I need to simple stuff and it is already in .wmv format, I used Windows Movie Maker.
    5924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Video editing program? (Message 672775)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does any one know of a video editing program that can separate the audio layer from a video format and let me export it in mp3 or another audio format?

    Was lookin around windows movie maker but cant find nuthin similar to a tool like that.


    Are you still using Linux?
    Windows Movie Maker does what you are asking about.
    5925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 672721)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, Beets, November 16th will be upon us soon! :)
    5926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 672702)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Know what, Beets?
    If ETIs capable of sending signals across interstellar distances are out there and not in imminent danger of self-destruction or destruction from without, then they'll still be there tomorrow, next week or next year, still sending signals! :)
    5927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 672603)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Afternoon everyone!







    This just in....


    King Tut had buck teeth!








    (Pic by The New York Post, November 5, 2007.)


    That says "Tut 'beets' the rap!"

    (Oh ... and no he's not! I am!)
    ::Waving to the onloookers!::
    (P.S., E.K., like the R.A.C.? Watch ... watch ... watch!)
    5928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link II (Message 672461)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOINC

    Broca's (Brain)
    The Dragons of Eden
    Cosmos
    Contact
    Pale Blue Dot
    The Demon Haunted World
    5929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link II (Message 672432)
    Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sagan.
    5930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Word Link II (Message 672022)
    Posted 4 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Birthday

    thread.
    5931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition... (Message 671710)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nobody expected 11/16/06, either.
    5932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671693)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    David A is certainly no volunteer.


    Oh pants and I so much wanted "David A" to be real.

    Maybe 'John McLeod' can give reference for David.

    Personally I don't think support staff need to crunch to be SETI volunteers.

    Though it does help if they are known and supported by regular forum mods and admins.


    I really shouldn't have to. Look at the tags under his name. He is one of the administrators, and all of those are paid staff.


    Didn't I say that already?
    5933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671665)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    David A is certainly no volunteer.
    5934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The new improved(?) PM system......your views. (Message 671657)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An unpaid volunteer posting as "David A"? Well, now, that's an interesting take on it. LOL.
    And *everyone* knows to copy your own ID and send it both to the recipient AND yourself so you have a record of what you have sent.
    ::Waving to the onlookers.::

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=43337&nowrap=true#671187
    I think I fixed the Opera problem.
    Let me know if any other problems.


    Posted by:

    David A.
    Forum moderator
    Project administrator
    Project developer


    Interesting tidbits:
    Total credit 4,000
    Recent average credit 0.00
    SETI@home classic workunits 3,125
    Team BOINC Synergy
    5935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 671640)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, no! "They" say "he's" got to go!
    Oh, no! There goes Tokyo! Go, go, Godzilla! :)
    5936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 671556)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Earl Grey, hot, coming right up!
    KB7RZF!
    5937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 671435)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone is welcome here, so long as they behave.
    (Thread created upon supernatural request --- Sarge is known for dealing in copious amounts of the strongest of coffees.)

    Bump!
    5938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Look! New buttons! (Message 671308)
    Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No disrespect, but the PM box looks awful in Firefox now.
    5939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thousand of millions or just billions? (Message 668903)
    Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blame in on the French, see Names for Large Numbers

    From that site, my logic for the American system is explained:
    In the American system for naming large numbers, the name coined from the Latin number n applies to the number 10^(3n+3). In a system traditional in many European countries, the same name applies to the number 10^(6n).

    Again, I still find it odd that a millenium is 1000 years. I still say something is historically muddled there, but otherwise we Yanks have a logic to the rest of the naming. Just a different logic.
    5940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC safety (Message 668900)
    Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope no one minds that I am moving off-topic posts from "Trekkies" here.

    Ah, sorry, another off-topic thingy.
    Looking at your avatar, I see my PM to you in June or July was correct. You are indeed a fan of Ozzy Osbourne. Hence, no mystery to my quoting you some Ozzy lyrics.
    5941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thousand of millions or just billions? (Message 668599)
    Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I forgot to add this:
    A thousand million is not difficult, but perhaps not efficient.
    What sense would make to always express a hundred as 10 tens?
    Or, 25 as 5 fives.
    Each is true, but it is not efficient to think of them this way all the time.
    5942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thousand of millions or just billions? (Message 668575)
    Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is odd that 1,000 is called "one thousand," when one thousand years is referred to as a millenium.
    I think there is some muddling of the use of "thousand" and "mill-," so in the US we have 1,000 as a "thousand" first, followed by 1,000,000 as a "million" second.
    It is this part that is perhaps illogical.
    After that, I think perhaps the logic is how many triples of zero there are beyond 1,000.
    Mill- could be similar to mono- (one), so one more triple beyond 1,000: 1,000,000.
    Billion (two), two more triples beyond 1000: 1,000,000,000.
    Trillion (three), three more triples beyond 1000: 1,000,000,000,000.
    So on and so forth, to quadrillions, quintillions ... .
    Based on the prefix, you know what to multiply 1,000 by: some power of 10^3.
    5943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thousand of millions or just billions? (Message 668247)
    Posted 28 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The error in that case was due to, if I remember correctly, not making conversions between metric and English measurements (inches and centimeters).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion
    5944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 667997)
    Posted 28 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump
    5945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667964)
    Posted 28 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay R/B, the definitive proof you've been looking for. lol

    Now to something more seious (?). I don't know WTH to make of this video supposedly from Australia.


    Hmmmm....very tough to determine what that might be.

    Could just be a huge spotlight on a helicopter...except for that burst of speed at the end.


    I dunno, but the little girl was scared. It sounded very loud. If it was actually coming from IT instead of just being wind that is.


    Some of the stuff MrGray was posting over the last few months, which he later reported had been debunked/were hoaxes, also had such things. Gasps. Sounding scared. I do not take that as an indication of truth. They could be good actors.
    5946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667954)
    Posted 28 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dang. He beat me to it (posting-wise).
    "Highly unlikely" was the phrase I used with KM in FlashChat 30 minutes ago.
    5947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667781)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last I knew this was a Myths, Legends, Conspiracies thread....let's try to get back on topic here please.

    Please see how epistemology was ... at least somewhat legitimately ... introduced into the discussion ... days ago.
    Please note that the thread author allowed it.
    For further discussions about whether any of this is off-topic or not, contact the thread author, please. :)
    5948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : User of the day!?! (Message 667733)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been around for over 7 years and never been selected as far as I know. Do you have to have a profile in your account to be UOTD? I have never taken the time to put one together.


    I think you do need to have a profile set up Mark. I got a UOTD the day after I set up a profile on SHA-1, a relatively new project.

    Makes sense. Maybe I'll have to do that little project one of these days.


    Be forewarned, msattler, that certain devious people will take screenshots of your profile, or download it, or download the pix and place the pix in his or her own Photobucket account, etc. ... to use against you or poke fun at you later. PM me for more details.
    5949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : User of the day!?! (Message 667704)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would wager to say that the SETI UOTD is one of the harder one's to win. Given the amount of users here. That is when it's chosen at random. You may also vote for user profiles you like.

    For example Click here Thanks! lol


    ?!?
    5950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To the kitty people.... (Message 667697)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How do kitties help the SETI project?
    5951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : User of the day!?! (Message 667694)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wag the dog!
    5952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : User of the day!?! (Message 667670)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If, as Toby states here, that one of the conditions is that a user can not have been UOTD previously,

    All UOTDs must have a RAC of over 1 and they can't have been UOTD before and it is chosen at random (ORDER BY RAND() does that).


    then how did Fuzzy get awarded UOTD twice?


    • One Classic and one BOINC?
      * Multiple Accounts?
    • Just a mistake in the code?



    I'm just curious.




    Maybe Eric wanted to give me a birthday present? He said it was totally random and a stroke of luck. LOL

    EDIT: And for your information, I have multiple UOTD's in other projects which all use the same code.



    What do you know?
    Look what she indented and bolded.
    She gave us a hint.
    5953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667656)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the f***?
    That's just effing wrong.
    Seriously, it's f-ing wrong!
    WTF?!?
    5954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667539)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.objectivistcenter.org/showcontent.aspx?ct=46&h=44
    Among the sciences, mathematics has a unique relation to philosophy. Since antiquity, philosophers have envied it as the model of logical perfection, because of the clarity of its concepts and the certainty of its conclusions, and have therefore devoted much effort to explaining the nature of mathematics.

    Modern Issues

    The popular current view is that mathematics has passed through a series of logical or epistemological crises that have done it severe damage. For a history of these "crises" (e.g. the invention of non-euclidean geometry and the discovery of the set-theoretic paradoxes), and a thorough survey of the issues in modern mathematical philosophy, see Morris Kline's Mathematics: The Loss of Certainty. Kline was a mathematician; this book accurately reflects the sort of attitude that one encounters among practitioners, and it is well documented with pertinent mathematics.

    To determine whether there are flaws in the foundations of a subject, one must first answer the more basic epistemological question of what constitutes a proper foundation. The Objectivist position that all knowledge must be grounded in perception, and grasped and organized conceptually, has played virtually no role in the historical development of the philosophy of mathematics. The primary task of an Objectivist approach is to ground mathematics objectively. An important secondary task is to explain how other epistemological presuppositions have brought about the sense of crisis and doubt that has characterized the field.


    That all knowledge must be grounded in perception presupposes such advances as the complex number system. No one could perceive sqrt(-1). It was a thought experiment, to call sqrt(-1) the "imaginary" unit i.
    5955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667536)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.jburgd12.k12.il.us/jjhs/dept/math8/ssweb/malist.htm
      Descartes, Rene - French algebraist, geometer, and philosopher
      Hypatia of Alexandria - Greek geometer, astronomer, and philosopher
      Leibniz, Gottfried von - German philosopher and logician
      Pythagoras of Samos - Greek geometer and philosopher
      Thales of Miletus - Greek geometer, philosopher, and astronomer


    That's just a few. :)

    5956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667531)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Axioms are neither proved nor disproved.

    Exactly! They are superior to proven facts! They are the basis for ALL proof. They are the 'gods and goddesses' of proof as a concept in our consciousness!.

    They're far above 'proof'. They're the perfect absolute truth.


    This is as close to saying they're self-evident as you can get without actually saying it. Axioms are merely assumptions to proceed from.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiomatic_system

    History

    The earliest record we have of such a practice dates back to Euclid (circa 300 BC) in his attempt to axiomatize Euclidean geometry and elementary number theory. Up until the beginning of the nineteenth century it was generally assumed, in European mathematics and philosophy (for example in Spinoza's work) that the heritage of Greek mathematics represented the highest standard of intellectual finish (development more geometrico, in the style of the geometers). As such, modern mathematician often discuss the axiomatic method as if it were a unitary approach.

    This traditional approach, in which axioms were supposed to be self-evident and so indisputable, was swept away during the course of the nineteenth century, by the development of non-Euclidean geometry, the foundations of real analysis, Cantor's set theory and Frege's work on foundations, and Hilbert's 'new' use of axiomatic method as a research tool. For example, group theory was first put on an axiomatic basis towards the end of that century. Once the axioms were clarified (that inverse elements should be required, for example), the subject could proceed autonomously, without reference to the transformation group origins of those studies.

    If one were to look at non-Western mathematics, one would observe that mathematics developed to some sophistication in the ancient civilizations in the Near East, India and China without employing the axiomatic method. Although many disciplines in modern mathematics, notably abstract algebra and topology, are conceived within the framework of the axiomatic method, the flourishing of ancient mathematics provides a viable alternate epistemology towards the practice of mathematics.


    An axiomatic system is said to be consistent if it lacks contradiction, i.e. [it lacks!] the ability to derive both a statement and its negation from the system's axioms.


    Again, the early geometers were first and foremost philosophers. Thus, mathematics and philosophy share roots when it comes to epistemology.
    5957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667529)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A statement, by definition, is something that is either true or false within a given axiomatic system.

    In Euclidean geometry, in any triangle, the sum of the measures of the three interior angles is 180 degrees. Such is not the case following the axioms of Hyperbolic geometry.
    5958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667526)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Geometers (mathematicians) were first and foremost philosophers.
    5959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667525)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Axioms are neither proved nor disproved.
    5960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667514)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivist_philosophy

    Ayn Rand's philosophy is based on three axioms: the axiom of Existence, the law of Identity, and the axiom of Consciousness. Rand defined an axiom as "a statement that identifies the base of knowledge and of any further statement pertaining to that knowledge, a statement necessarily contained in all others whether any particular speaker chooses to identify it or not. An axiom is a proposition that defeats its opponents by the fact that they have to accept it and use it in the process of any attempt to deny it."[5] As Leonard Peikoff noted, Rand's argumentation "is not a proof that the axioms of existence, consciousness, and identity are true. It is proof that they are axioms, that they are at the base of knowledge and thus inescapable."[4]

    Objectivism states that "Existence exists" (the "axiom of Existence") and "Existence is Identity." To be is to be "an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes."[5] That which has no attributes does not and cannot exist. Hence, "A is A" ("Law of Identity:") a thing is what it is. Whereas "existence exists" pertains to existence itself (whether something exists or not), the law of identity pertains to the nature of an object as being necessarily distinct from other objects (whether something exists as this or that). As Rand wrote, "A leaf cannot be all red and green at the same time, it cannot freeze and burn at the same time. A is A."


    That which is exists is definable (by its attributes) is a questionable statement.
    What are the points of undefined terms and axioms?
    To avoid circular reasoning.
    It is from undefined terms, then definitions, then axioms, that propositions and their proofs follow.

    From Euclid until Hilbert, axioms were statements taken to be true without proof. These statements were viewed as "self-evident." Interesting? The current approach to axioms is that there does not need to be any self-evidence. The axioms may even be about mathematical structures for which there is no currently known way to view them in the ways we perceive the universe, so how can we talk about them being self-evident? However, the axiomatic system must be consistent.
    It cannot lead to two if-then statements later on which contradict each other.

    As an example, what a straight line is in Euclidean geometry is different from what a straight line is in Hyperbolic geometry. Which, if either, is the geometry of "reality"? It is not known yet. Empirical attempts to measure this have taken place and some are probably still under way.
    5961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 667471)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All I know is, that everybody follows a borrowed philosophy. Few are original thinkers

    And people complain about Jeffrey's Q'uranic cut and pastes! LOL!!!
    5962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Stacey Jane !!! Oct. 26 - TODAY! (Message 667446)
    Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy B'Day, SJ.
    5963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! III (Message 667123)
    Posted 26 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd like to remind you all of the Kid Friendly Atmosphere (KFA?) we try to foster here at SETI. Some of these are a little close to the line. Can we have a winner please and move on?

    Great caption, Pawly!
    5964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! III (Message 666749)
    Posted 26 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Remember, soccer is played without using the hands."
    5965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Stacey Jane !!! Oct. 26 - TODAY! (Message 666464)
    Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1 More Day 'till Stacey's Birthday . . .

    26 - 25 = ... .
    Oh. Yeah. You're right.
    1 day!
    :)
    5966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Earth" or "The Earth" (Message 665946)
    Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've got a shovel and am not afraid to use it. Next person to post in here will be buried 6 feet under the 'earth' or 'the earth' on 'The Earth'. Hell, forget it. Celestial dirt nap is the punishment.


    Huh?

    ;)


    Yer cruisin' for a bruisin' Labbie. Hate ta see ya go. That would be Terra-ble.


    Pawly's RAC is referred to as "The 17."
    5967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Earth" or "The Earth" (Message 665941)
    Posted 25 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some refer to me as "The Sarge," to place me above all the other Slim Shady Imitatin' Sarges.
    5968) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Earth" or "The Earth" (Message 665865)
    Posted 24 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It could be to demean Earth.

    Why "The Ukraine"? Why do Russians call it "The Ukraine" when it is in fact "Ukraine". Why don't the Russians say The USA, or The England or The South Africa?

    It's because 'the river' is part of something, 'the sun' is in the sky. The Ukraine is a province of Russia (so they arrogantly want to continue to think of it as).

    So that is my explanation - Earth is demeaned by being referred to as part of something (the solar system?) rather than being acknowledged in it's own right (as other planets).


    Given most humans tendency towards Earthnocentrism, puplemnknavel's assertion makes more sense than this "demean the Earth" idea.
    5969) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : teams for blue collar slobs (Message 664854)
    Posted 23 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And some of us are not even blue collar!
    5970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 664155)
    Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poot.
    5971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Funny code? (Message 664068)
    Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How comes all Misfit's threads and now Qui-Gon's show up White?

    Qui-Gon's "Religious Thread [11]" shows up as grey to me.
    5972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 655891)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They already started putting Xmas crap on the store shelves last month...!

    You mean now Halloween and Christmas compete?!? :) Now THAT's non-kid friendly.

    That means it's time for me to start shaking my money maker.

    LOL! Competition against the Timmy Dance?
    5973) Message boards : Politics : Short politics quiz (Message 655847)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoops with the link. All's well that ends well however

    Seems most are reasonably happy with their results so as vague or general as the test is it isn't too bad an indicator (for a minutes worth of work).

    Doesn't seem to be too many conservatives or centrists around here huh...

    Figures since they probably wouldnt like the internet or looking for ET.


    Incorrect.
    A centrist is open to possibilities.
    A centrist may be aware of Drake's Equation and, trying many different n-tuples as inputs, realize the many different predictions do not result in 0 other planets in this universe where life could arise, attain intelligence and, finally, communicate beyond planetary boundaries.
    A centrist may hope SETI@Home will find a signal or may believe that with all the searching turning up 0 results so far, either the scientists will find a better part of the sky to listen to or see that the odds for finding life elsewhere are going down.
    A logical/mathematical centrist may realize that 0 results so far is not proof against, hopes for the counterexample to the assertion "There is no (intelligent) life elsewhere" ... yadda, yadda, yadda.
    Get the idea?
    5974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 655841)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Ding dong.

    Another sunny day is moving in.

    Yeah here too!

    How ya doin Mike?


    Not that good Al.

    Horrible week is over now.
    Two birthdays and a big lost in my family.

    Oh I'm sorry to hear that buddy :(


    No problem mate.



    On top of all that, it seems to have been one of "those" weekends as well.

    Ah well, how many shopping days to Christmas? Yup, you heard it here first!



    They already started putting Xmas crap on the store shelves last month...!


    You mean now Halloween and Christmas compete?!? :) Now THAT's non-kid friendly.
    5975) Message boards : Politics : Suitable images for use in avatars...... (Message 655741)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    good choice dennis.

    Sorry Sänger if you dont understand but thats the way.

    The world isn´t black and white.

    No, but why can images of guns be deleted by people with the same guns in their avatars, isn't that pure hypocrisy?

    Of course it's not black and white, but it should at least be consistent.


    Logic is not the forte.
    Preconceived (incorrect) notion: defense rush.
    Hence: do same.
    Conclude: potshots at the Almighty bounce off Superman.
    5976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 655618)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your turn Jeffrey.

    I'll pass... ;)

    (Test results: FAILED... Reason: Dirty thoughts don't make a clean pic dirty.)


    Jeffrey, do what I did and post a different pic.
    5977) Message boards : Politics : Short politics quiz (Message 655617)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "... pride themselves on keeping an open mind, tend to oppose '... extremes,' ..."
    5978) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : I am creating artificial life, declares US gene pioneer (Message 655606)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seems like a great leap from this to solving energy problems ??




    I was thinking the same thing William.


    Ditto. That portion was not really followed up on.
    5979) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Why? (Message 655605)
    Posted 7 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    William and Clyde have made some plausible suggestions.
    And, dividing by 2, 3, 4 or 5 is typical. (Even 6, as it is 2 times 3.) So, we can see where 60 and 90 can come from this.
    5980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 655409)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Clarification pending.
    5981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . i Post - YOU like Good Music? (Message 655358)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . sEttin' a Board in Motion - per se ?



    And the kitties say '?????????'.

    Must be an inside joke, eh?


    Guess I'm on the outside with you, msattler. :)
    5982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 655339)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like goulash.
    5983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 655008)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, early breakfast. 4:56 am there?
    5984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sputnik 1 launched 4 October 1957 (Message 655007)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People world-wide were deeply impressed with this Russian accomplishment. This was not lost on the powers-that-be in America, who were Russia's great rival in the Cold War, which had already started. I think that the idea of an American flight to the moon was born here, and not out of some whim or fancy on the part of President John F. Kennedy, as it's often portrayed.

    You're probably right, but I do not think I've seen/interpreted the USA getting to the moon as a result of JFK. His speech was just another big kick in that direction.


    [Edit]: The way I remember it, people in general did give the credit to President Kennedy for the idea. You have to remember that there was no internet back then. People got their news strictly through the television and the printed newpapers. There were a lot fewer content providers back in those days, and it was easy to portray this as the President's inspiration.

    JFK was an inspirational leader, with his flight to the moon project and also his American Peace Corps initiative.

    I'm just saying that his father Joseph Kennedy senior must've grumbled about how much prestige the d*mn Russians got out of that event. The flight to the moon reversed all of that.


    I'm thinking more of how I may have heard things portrayed during my school years. Furthermore, I've known since at least 1992 or earlier the effect of Sputnik on mathematics and science education in the USA. I think included in this knowledge was probably also that NASA formed about 1 year later, as a result of Sputnik.
    5985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sputnik 1 launched 4 October 1957 (Message 654997)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People world-wide were deeply impressed with this Russian accomplishment. This was not lost on the powers-that-be in America, who were Russia's great rival in the Cold War, which had already started. I think that the idea of an American flight to the moon was born here, and not out of some whim or fancy on the part of President John F. Kennedy, as it's often portrayed.

    You're probably right, but I do not think I've seen/interpreted the USA getting to the moon as a result of JFK. His speech was just another big kick in that direction.
    5986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654989)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check it out!









    <=== Broke 250,000!
    5987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Magic Dick harmonica lessons......... (Message 654987)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=magic+dick+harmonica&fr=yfp-t-501-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
    5988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654874)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevermind.

    Yes, this pic is going to be a true test of 'self control'... ;)

    Not necessarily. One can demonstrate self-control and make a reasonable caption, then have it misinterpreted.
    5989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654872)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevermind.
    5990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday Hungover Beethoven. October 4 (Message 654869)
    Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heyas Pawly!

    Thanks for the greets! Join the party!


    Wow! There's a whole lotta dancing on tables goin' on...






    Which one is Cyn?
    5991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 654690)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Yellow Wallpaper.



    OMG!! *Hugs*

    A classic feminist story!! I studied that one at college. :)

    Very chilling.


    Then I studied it just a few years before you. I remembered a lot of it a long time, but I do not remember much of it now. Nor does my posting it indicate what my beliefs or conclusions on feminism are. :)

    Yeah..it's a creepy chilling story. Very suitable for Halloween. I might see if i can remember any more from the course I did.


    I believe I read it as part of junior/300 level history course on "The Gilded Age." I had the other people in that class, who planned to be secondary history teachers, thinking I had the same plans. (This was not deliberate. They had assumed.) They were very surprised to learn at graduation I had trained to teach secondary mathematics.
    5992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 654677)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Yellow Wallpaper.



    OMG!! *Hugs*

    A classic feminist story!! I studied that one at college. :)

    Very chilling.


    Then I studied it just a few years before you. I remembered a lot of it a long time, but I do not remember much of it now. Nor does my posting it indicate what my beliefs or conclusions on feminism are. :)
    5993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 654658)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Yellow Wallpaper.
    5994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654650)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JM7 is correct. I figured people generally understood "taking the cake" means winning and it seemed a nice pun on the rice cake.
    5995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654649)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shhh. :)
    Be productive. :)
    5996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This rates! (Message 654634)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Calm Chaos pointed this out months ago. :)
    5997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654606)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah. Yes.
    5998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654600)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Moving swiftly on...

    Just received my box of free goodies from BT Vision. Contains a couple of gizmos that plug into electric sockets. Apparently it allows the house wiring to be used as a mini LAN.

    Anyone had experience of these??


    I don't have any experience, but here is some info that might help. There are some that are experimenting with using power lines to bring broadband into rural areas via the high-tranmission power lines.

    Power line communications


    Don't know if this will help, but I tried those, & every so often, lost network connections on all machines so switched back to wired.

    BTW, nice thread Sarge.


    :)

    With networks, we can return our results to BOINC more efficiently.
    5999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 654397)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    g'nyt . . . ;)



    Ditto.
    6000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 654392)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When getting prank phone calls or tele-marketers ... and they won't give up ... starting screaming into the phone, imitating Robin Williams or hard rock/heavy metal singers such as W. Axl Rose (Guns 'n' Roses) or James Hetfield (Metallica).


    I've considered a canned air horn a time or three...


    LOL!
    6001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Britney (Message 654306)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    She didn't go nuts until she got involved with that Federline
    Character, Two Babies and a Bad marriage combined with Lots of
    cash, exposure to all the drugs you can sniff....

    Seems strange that she held it together until she stopped
    performing...


    I agree! She needs the influence of some more positive role models, I think she should start hanging around more with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan. I loved their crazy exploits!


    I hope you're not serious. :)
    6002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 654305)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for that info, Ratava. I was thinking of doing exactly that.
    6003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654303)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mommy? This tastes like the cooler you yelled at me for chewing on this morning. But I LIKE styrofoam!!

    JM7 "takes the 'cake'!"
    6004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday Hungover Beethoven. October 4 (Message 654294)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hate cell phones and I am sure Beets specifically told me not to buy him one for his b'day, because he hates them too. In fact, we formed a club. He's the president. We're not sure what the name is yet.


    Club name suggestion: "Hang Up, Don't Call Again". Okay...gotta run. I'm outta here. Later Guys, Luv ya all!!!!


    We do have a lot of hang ups, don't we? :)
    Once again, Happy Birthday!
    6005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 654290)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When getting prank phone calls or tele-marketers ... and they won't give up ... starting screaming into the phone, imitating Robin Williams or hard rock/heavy metal singers such as W. Axl Rose (Guns 'n' Roses) or James Hetfield (Metallica).
    6006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654286)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, we need at least 3 more. Depending on the timing of posting your captions, you may have to wait about 12 hours for declaration of a winner as:

      1) It's evening here.
      2) I'm really tired.
      3) If it takes a few hours before there are 3 more posts, then I will not see them until tomorrow morning, my time.



    Good luck!

    6007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654281)
    Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope it's not "Pat" from Saturday Night Live. :)
    6008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 654215)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats, Ice!
    And let's pat Labbie on the back, too.
    6009) Message boards : Politics : No Andrew Meyer Thread Till Now? Not Surprising, Given the Generally Low Level of Consciousness (Message 654108)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey, 'Ms.' is an honorific similar to 'Mr.'

    Personally, I don't really care for 'honorifics'... I have a name, I don't need a title too... ;)

    That's terrific.
    6010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday Hungover Beethoven. October 4 (Message 654098)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hate cell phones and I am sure Beets specifically told me not to buy him one for his b'day, because he hates them too. In fact, we formed a club. He's the president. We're not sure what the name is yet.
    6011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654043)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    ?
    6012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 654023)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. This one does not seem to be drawing attention. The choice was inspired by Es' speech awarding me the top prize of the last round. I could use a different pic a little later if no wants to create captions for the one I have currently chosen.

    It's kinda difficult that one Sarge, to think of anything funny that isn't naff. A replacement pic would be good I think - something I can win for a change ;)

    LOL!
    Well, I see what I can do within a few hours. Unless Beets speaks up and says it's not in the rules.
    6013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653997)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess, must be British Telecom.


    Yup in one. Left in 2000 after 25 years.


    Good guess, Champ!

    P.S.: Closing in on 250000 credits! :)


    No. It is only the same in Germany. No one likes the Germany Telekom.


    ???

    Ich verstehe nicht.



    Sorry, Sarge

    Telecom, there is one in GB and one in Germany. We got only trouble with our Telecom over here.


    I thought that might be what you meant, but I do not understand how it connects to the "Good guess" or "P.S."
    6014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653987)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess, must be British Telecom.


    Yup in one. Left in 2000 after 25 years.


    Good guess, Champ!

    P.S.: Closing in on 250000 credits! :)


    No. It is only the same in Germany. No one likes the Germany Telekom.


    ???

    Ich verstehe nicht.
    6015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 653985)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, in general, it is ok to eat rice, right? I hope no one breaks out in protest over rice eating one of these days.
    6016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ye Olde Tea Rooms (Message 653981)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's easy for you to say!

    Actually, I'm still sore from saying it! The only thing more difficult is Klingon!
    6017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653979)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is the coffee strong enough to lever open one's eyes?


    I dont think so.

    Had a horrible night, only 4 hours of sleep.


    Same here, Mike. And I spent the last two days working nearly 15 hours each day.
    6018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653978)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe we should do that in the Mods thread....

    Do what?
    Besides, why even look at it?
    6019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653972)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess, must be British Telecom.


    Yup in one. Left in 2000 after 25 years.


    Good guess, Champ!

    P.S.: Closing in on 250000 credits! :)
    6020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653963)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Me too, I only do the minimum for Seti so I can post. Once our lot hit the 1 mill, we moved on to Einstein. We'll do 1/4 mill there then probably on to Rosetta. Probably come back to Seti at some point, we'll see.

    As in the BT Retired Club? What's the BT stand for, BTW?
    6021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday Hungover Beethoven. October 4 (Message 653926)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy B'Day, Beets!
    6022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 653785)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. This one does not seem to be drawing attention. The choice was inspired by Es' speech awarding me the top prize of the last round. I could use a different pic a little later if no wants to create captions for the one I have currently chosen.
    6023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653776)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy.
    6024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 653757)
    Posted 4 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Good stuff.
    6025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653692)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When Es gets hold of you lot, I will be the official photographer!

    It'll cost you for the negatives!

    She already hates me...So i'm used to this trouble.


    Nah, Hevs Ok in my book. She's buying me a pint when Mike comes over.


    [Hobbit voice]A pint? It comes in pints?[/Hobbit voice]
    6026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sputnik 1 launched 4 October 1957 (Message 653690)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    50 years ago, just over 1 year before I was born.

    If you were around then, what do you remember about it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1


    Keith, that was a little before my time. Dad was about to graduate high school (valedictorian). But, I did not remember it was 10/4 (just the 1957) part. Thanks for pointing out to us this important date.
    6027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653680)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    in a 24 hour period (DO the Math) i crunch ONE Unit per 2 1/2 hrs and mi cache is fine - crunchin' 'im ALL on time . . . enough to cover mi 'speed' . . .




    As others have learned I am sometimes not so good at explaining myself :-(

    Perhaps you should ask some of the brainiacs over in the NC forum about this?

    For what it’s worth, my average turnaround time is 8.57 days.

    :-)


    Obviously, the 3 of us have high RACs and we're turning things around quickly. The explanation you've proposed sounds feasible, but, yes, NC guys might know better. However, the brainiacs do not just hang out in that forum only.
    6028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653667)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    i crunChed 10 Units today (approx. 24 hrs') THOUGH the stats "SAY" that i am doin' ONE per every 7 days . . . har hardy har! so muCh 4 the stats . . .



    Which stat are you looking at? I can't find a WU rate stat on the setiathome site :(

    As for my own productivity, looks like I'm a week or so away from reaching a score of 1,000,000 :)


    > i was referrin' to 'statistically' speakin' . . .

    < when you go to your account - click Your Computers - THEN click Computer ID and see: Average turnaround time 7.66 days (mine)

    now - i realize THIS is the turnover time with the QUorum of two - the other person takes a longer time - MY BOX is crunchin' one every 2 - 2 1/2 hrs on the average ;)

    I think that the 7.66 days includes the time that the wu spent sitting on your HD before it got crunched.


    That's possible, if he has a larger cache.
    6029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653666)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    i crunChed 10 Units today (approx. 24 hrs') THOUGH the stats "SAY" that i am doin' ONE per every 7 days . . . har hardy har! so muCh 4 the stats . . .



    Which stat are you looking at? I can't find a WU rate stat on the setiathome site :(

    As for my own productivity, looks like I'm a week or so away from reaching a score of 1,000,000 :)


    > i was referrin' to 'statistically' speakin' . . .

    < when you go to your account - click Your Computers - THEN click Computer ID and see: Average turnaround time 7.66 days (mine)

    now - i realize THIS is the turnover time with the QUorum of two - the other person takes a longer time - MY BOX is crunchin' one every 2 - 2 1/2 hrs on the average ;)


    Average turnaround time 4.78 days

    Also, most really take 2-2.5 hours for me.
    6030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dyslexics discrimated by SETI (Message 653662)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just thought that you would like to know that I have a severely dyslexic student in my ECDL class at College.

    She is highly intelligent, speaks very well, but unfortunately has strong problems in dealing with written class material. As such our Student Support Unit provide a reader for her during classes and exams. She is such a lovely girl and we have a really nice teacher/pupil bond.

    Dyslexia is not in my opinion a subject for fun or mockery. I have dealt with it first hand, and I can tell you now, more famous people than you would imagine have this problem.


    Spot on, Chris.
    Mocking this is just not cool!
    6031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653559)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PS Nice thread Sarge



    Righty-ho, chap. That Sarge fella, he's got a few swella ideas, eh? :)
    6032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653548)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I seemed to have finally max'd out on the RAC. :(
    6033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653547)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So i have to come to england then, because not that much people have weapons in germany like me.

    You must come to England again soon!! I was so sad we missed your last visit.

    Chris..sorry about that mix-up thing.. I have sent you an email. I guess I had my own senior moment. :D

    Aha!...I knew you were older than 53!


    Is not! :P

    She uses the anti-wrinkly cream and it really works.


    Let E = Es99's age.
    If E >= 53, then Es99 uses anti-wrinkle cream.
    Let S = the set of all posters here that are over 53.
    Let S_f = the set of a female posters here that are over 53. (Read "S sub f.")
    Then find an example of an element, H, in S_f such that H either does not use anti-wrinkle cream or does use it but to no avail.
    6034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TESTING FOR SIGNATURES AND BBCODE (Message 653541)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread no longer needed.
    See "Preview" button to the left of "Post reply," as well "Edit this post."
    6035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653539)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So i have to come to england then, because not that much people have weapons in germany like me.

    You must come to England again soon!! I was so sad we missed your last visit.

    Chris..sorry about that mix-up thing.. I have sent you an email. I guess I had my own senior moment. :D

    Aha!...I knew you were older than 53!


    Is not! :P
    6036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 653537)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So i have to come to england then, because not that much people have weapons in germany like me.

    You must come to England again soon!! I was so sad we missed your last visit.

    Chris..sorry about that mix-up thing.. I have sent you an email. I guess I had my own senior moment. :D


    Rosi would like to meet you too.
    I talk sometimes to her about my first visit.


    Mike ... when you do, I would like to know and make a point of bringing Sheila and myself down to meet with you two.


    I let you know John.
    If i knew how to pay i would come next week.


    We can start a donation drive for Mike to make another trip to the UK.
    6037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ye Olde Tea Rooms (Message 653533)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mrs. Miggins,

    As you may have duly noted I have taken great care in the style by which I've introduced my new paramour. I'm sure you found her to be lovely in her azure petticoats. However, one of her shawls has gone missing and since I'm certain none of your fine guests or patrons should be suspected for absconding with the article I would duly request you look into the matter.

    You see, the shawl was given by her mother before her passing and perhaps the coatman has been 'tipping' while sitting if you gather my meaning.

    I can't say that I would blame him much as your guest list is typically so exclusive as to bore the attentive doorman. However, I'm still in the quandary....I abhor the idea of casting aspersions upon that gaggle of women in the antechamber and I certainly cannot accuse the men in the chess room. After all...I was there the whole time and although we did get a bit into the brandy I don't suspect one of us drunkards would have stolen a woman's shawl!!!!

    What am I to do? If it's not returned what is the gentlemanly behaviour for our following engagement? Surely, she's looking for it and expects me to be proper and return it which is the intent of this missive.

    Cordially,

    Sir Robert.


    Siwrnai ail ddylasem gwrthladd 'r adfachau 'n anfonedig at dwr chan barnwyr arfaethedig at achosa cawdd a chyfrysedd!
    6038) Message boards : Politics : Racism (Message 653529)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On the other side: Pro-Palestinian does not necessary mean anti-Israeli or anti-Jewish.

    I had some good friends of both sides (Israelis and Palestinians) and they told me, that these nations have not always been fighting each other. Jews and Palestinians even lived as neighbors for several time until one of these Israel wars which then made them enemies. But (and this gives me hope) there are some towns in Israel where Palestinians and Israeli live peacefully side by side.


    I've known and worked with two Palestinians over the past 7 years. One, whom I've known 3-4 years, states that even currently Jews, Christians and Muslims live in peace ... not just as neighbors but sometimes even as roommates ... it is Israeli government they have a problem with ... not Jews.
    6039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653415)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just crunched a WU.

    WAY TO GO!!!
    6040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 653414)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the winner:



    Alright, have at it and post some captions! :)
    6041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread devoted to daily reports of SETI/BOINC productivity! (Message 653408)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread is for anyone who wishes to report on their SETI (or, BOINC in general) crunching productivity on a regular or sporadic basis! Why? Because we can discuss whatever the heck we want to, so long it is within Berkeley's/admin's rules. Have at it!
    6042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread [2] (Message 653176)
    Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dio - Last In Line

    Damn good song!

    Not a Dio fan, but this song is a good one. (Sheesh! They cut part of the solo?!? What were they thinking?!?)
    And now for something in that vain ... sorta ...
    Peace Sells.

    Er, vain.
    6043) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 653044)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe mods are not the main roles in this issue the Seti institute supposedly to follow the policy of supporting multicultural forum. And you would enforce that policy, since we have an "international" project.

    Everyone heard that the project has No1 problem of funding, but my intention is to reprocess the Forum into multicultural mode and I hope it should not hurt the tight budget.


    Orgil ... while I do not agree with the way some have responded to you (and to cRunchy) ... it has been stated simply: it is not the administration's responsibility to make the forum multicultural. Nor is it the responsibility of the mods. Besides, some mods say "Be careful what you wish for; you might just get it ... and more."

    What the administration cares about, and rightfully so, is having many people crunch for the project.

    I have said it time and time and time again: these forums are merely hosted by the project and can only be posted on by people who are participating or did participate and have enough RAC remaining to keep posting for a while; beyond that, the project and the forums are separate, except that there can be public relations problems.

    You are already a volunteer, Orgil, by crunching for the project. You can volunteer to get a wider range of people in the world crunching for the project, first of all, followed by getting those people involved in what become a more diverse forum.

    (As it says at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/moderation.php,
    We aren't a social engineering project nor are we in the business of creating a perfectly fair system.


    While some things evolve, I am willing to bet the stance of the project administrators regarding this one issue will not change.)

    I am sorry this point keeps getting lost. OzzFan said it; Knightmare said something similar and provided another option. Unfortunately, OzzFan did not keep to the topic and his main, most important point, was lost. The posts of many others, and a small number of my own, contributed to the loss of the point.
    6044) Message boards : Politics : Racism (Message 653037)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I agree it is pro Palestinian,

    But had no idea the anger it would draw. I sometimes post data that will get a conversation rolling. I believe this video was not a good choice to begin with. I apologize for it and will probably delete it from my website as soon as my database guys is done upgrading my site.

    :(


    Still not sure why you refer to "data" the way you do, MrG.
    Anyway, I am surprised this thread also remains.
    6045) Message boards : Politics : Racism (Message 653035)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most Muslims are Semites too.


    Not quite, if we're talking ethnicity, "Arabs account for around 20% of all Muslims worldwide" with most Muslims coming from regions of Asia with little or no Semitic ancestry. For that matter, a sizeable portion of Jews are not descended from Semites either, for example, of the 8 million or so Ashkenazi Jews about 60% cannot trace their mitochondiral DNA back to the Middle East, that is their maternal bloodlines do not have Semitic ancestry.

    As there are Christian Arabs (and quite likely Bhuddist Arabs, atheist Arabs and the rest), it follows that there are also ethnically Semitic Christians (etc.) too.

    Having said that I have to agree with wikipedia when it goes on to say "[anti-Semitism] is in practice used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews as a religious, racial, or ethnic group". So while there may be others that are ethnically Semitic, hostility towards non-Jewish Semites is not considered anti-Semitism, whereas hostility towards non-Semitic Jews is anti-Semitism.

    As for the video linked at the start of this thread, while certainly distasteful, I'm not completely sure it is anti-Semitic, though it seems pretty clear it's pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli.


    Bobby! You're my boy, Bobby! Throw the ball, Bobby!
    6046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Preview button - Is it just me? (Message 653028)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With "preview" we can get rid of that silly BBC testing thread.
    We didn't need it since we could edit our posts within 1 hour, anyway.
    6047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . TECHNO BUDDHA Thread (Message 653006)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Place that techno Buddha (Boddhisatva) underneath the cyber Boddhi tree, next to a Pagoba inhabited by Abe Bigoda (Fish) and let 'em eat virtual Condi Rice cakes! :)
    6048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 652923)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I need sleep.
    6049) Message boards : Politics : Racism (Message 652864)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Incorrect,

    Please see that thread again for my comments.

    Also see another thread started by me:

    Here...


    .

    I have spent the past few moments checking out some of your website.

    In view of that, it would surprise me if anyone took anything that you ever said seriously. So, I apologize to you sir. You are not a racist. Just a fool.


    Since we're all crunching for SETI@Home (a project to do ... what ... ?), I would be surprised if anyone here or anyone stumbling by for a read took anything we had to say seriously.
    You should ask for your own thread to be closed now, Mr. Wilson, since you now recognize MrG is not a racist.
    I told you not to be swift in judgment or anger.
    6050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : on topIc {microsoft TIme updatE} off topIc (Message 652863)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    nope - and there's 'nothin' wrong w/ mi machine . . . ;)


    Certificate of Computation


    This certifies that
    watCh out!

    has participated in the SETI@home project since 28 February 2000, and has contributed 104,467 Cobblestones of computation (90.26 quadrillion floating-point operations) and 1111 Classic workunits to SETI@home's search for extraterrestrial life.



    I'm referring to the stuff to the left of your post.

    Joined: Feb 29, 2000
    Posts: 9498
    ID: 259585
    Credit: 104,467
    RAC: 867
    6051) Message boards : Politics : Racism (Message 652859)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've recently detected anti-Welshism and pro-Welsh threads should be unlocked. :)
    6052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : on topIc {microsoft TIme updatE} off topIc (Message 652855)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . Question: has anybody else NOTED (in regards to SAH Certificates)

    whether OR not their Date is wrong on the Print out . . .

    > mine says February 28th 2000 . . . it's actually the 29th - which was a Leap Year

    so it seems the Servers / Database needs some 'Time Corrections' made, eh . . .






    It says the 29th now.
    6053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread [2] (Message 652702)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dio - Last In Line

    Damn good song!

    Not a Dio fan, but this song is a good one. (Sheesh! They cut part of the solo?!? What were they thinking?!?)
    And now for something in that vain ... sorta ...
    Peace Sells.
    6054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 652691)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    s'up?
    6055) Message boards : Politics : UK legislation changes (Message 652653)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow! I guess this is political after all?!?
    6056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 652634)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean BOINCing, right? :)
    6057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652632)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Listening to her song right now.
    6058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 652631)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All Good Things (W.A.S.; February, 1996)

    We used to talk for hours.
    You used to beg me to stay.
    Now talking for a few minutes is supposed to be an honor.
    What else am I to say?
    We used to hold each other's hand.
    You'd love to watch the waves of the sea.
    Now I am missing making love to you on the beach in the sand,
    holding you close to me.

    And all ...
    I ever wanted ...
    was a friend.
    And now ...
    I am haunted ...
    by this untimely end.
    But I ...
    I am undaunted ...
    I never could pretend.
    'Cause I ...
    have always known ...
    that all good things ...
    must END.

    We used to share our dreams.
    You used to have a vision.
    Now all the flights of fancy have faded, it seems,
    lacking new revision.
    We're going our own ways.
    You have a long road ahead.
    Now I turn and face into the wind - I'll see you, one of these days ...

    Whatever else might be said ...
    Everything I have ever had,
    good or bad,
    I can't pretend.
    It all comes to an end.
    6059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652564)
    Posted 2 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't read that.
    Orgil, is this something you can translate?
    6060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652541)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol, jm7
    6061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652520)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The famous pagoda at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.




    And the rice (cakes)?
    6062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Jim_S. & littlegreenmanfrommars's Birthday - October 09, 2007 (Message 652490)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hbd, do0ds
    6063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652488)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    I love how Labbie's pic of eating a rice cake is underneath Matthew L's pic of a pagoda. But what does Abe Vigoda (Bigoda? Ahhh, I give up ...) ... .
    6064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 652485)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everything will work out,

    Strange times will bring us to a better time.



    .


    Or Armageddon. :)
    6065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 652483)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The goats begin practicing their cheers."
    (Pick mine, Es99, pick mine!)
    6066) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652444)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you lose sleep because many here perceive your posts as intentionally irritating and genuinely sexist?

    You would need to provide evidence of that. (Turnabout is fair play and I will be able to spot attempts to weasel out of it.)
    The mods and your teammate R/B do not count.
    6067) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652441)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I get modded whenever I point out that this feminist hate filled person has two identies. Why's that?

    I dunno... But apparently, this post was an exception... ;)

    Jeffrey, find at least two identities for his non-feminist, loving and caring friend. :)
    6068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652440)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL, Ice providing a pic of rice, as Clyde sits and eats, not rides or walks with his feet.
    6069) Message boards : Politics : Hun llywia achos Cymru! (Message 652333)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fi jyst angen at gwiredda rhywbeth. Bostia i mewn 'r cerydda dafodiaith i mewn hon edau?

    Uffar gwirion...Twll Din Pop Saes!

    Dwi odiaeth gratified a Buais ddealledig blwc yn areithio mewn balog Gwna mo hyd yn oed adnabod!



    Dwi 'n falch baech ddealledig , namyn Ca afrwyddineb rationalising beth DB eb atat


    Dybia Darth Chi Brathau ddeudedig 'm a goblygodd 'm mewn Sith cara Dreisio afflau.
    6070) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652330)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well I remember once having a 3 week tournament with Rush about global warming until I realised I was banging my head against a brick wall :D

    I felt bad for you as well. I had hoped that just once you would present an argument instead of statements of your opinion and belief, but no, that was not to occur. 8^]

    ...I just feel there is a need for it here, and it is very challenging to hone ones debating skills in an arena that is essentially hostile to the topic...which also suggests that there is a place for it here.

    Exactly.


    Honing one's debate skills?!?
    On these message boards?!?
    6071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652329)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ruuuush? Ohhhh, Rush?!? Where arrrrrre you? :)
    6072) Message boards : Politics : Hun llywia achos Cymru! (Message 652161)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fi jyst angen at gwiredda rhywbeth. Bostia i mewn 'r cerydda dafodiaith i mewn hon edau?

    Uffar gwirion...Twll Din Pop Saes!

    Dwi odiaeth gratified a Buais ddealledig blwc yn areithio mewn balog Gwna mo hyd yn oed adnabod!
    6073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 652154)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back from the Guthrie Concert allot of Fun..

    Glad you had fun buddy!

    Ditto.
    6074) Message boards : Politics : Hun llywia achos Cymru! (Message 652139)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fi jyst angen at gwiredda rhywbeth. Bostia i mewn 'r cerydda dafodiaith i mewn hon edau?
    6075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652135)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ever put peanut butter on rice cakes? :)

    No, but that might make them actually edible. As far as I am concerned, they have the taste of sawdust, and I get enough of that when I play in my wood shop.

    LOL The plain ones, yes, I totally agree. I can't stand those things. I'd rather chew on my leather boots. But the flavored ones are alright.

    Concurring in a Rush-like fashion. :)
    (RUUUUUUUUSSSSSHHHHH!!! How's London and can you buy rice cakes there?!?)
    6076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652122)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ever put peanut butter on rice cakes? :)
    6077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652095)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    You guys are great!!!
    (Who was it that said, "When it's not about the science it's about the fun"?)
    6078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rice cakes eaten under pagodas (Message 652084)
    Posted 1 Oct 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone said this would be a good thread.
    What do you think?
    A pagoda is a type of building, right?
    :)
    6079) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652019)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Muslims do not claim Mohammed was a/the savior. They refer to him as a prophet. They also apparently deny the divinity of Christ. Some seem to claim that He did not save the world but that God/Allah will send Him back a second time and that it is at that time He will be The Savior.
    Where did I get this from? Marwan of Jordan.


    But they do believe he will be sent back, thus making him a form of Savior anyway, correct? After all, if Allah sent back anyone else, Mohamed wouldn't be the Savior. Since it is preordained that it will be Mohamed, he is by default their Savior whether they call him that or not.

    But, of course, this is off-topic, isn't it?


    At this point, just about everything is off topic, and sometimes I think I'm the King of Off Topic posts (unintentionally, of course).


    If I understood Marwan correctly and if he spoke for a large amount of Muslims, he did not say Mohammed would be sent back. He said Christ would be sent back.
    (See how easy misinterpretation is?)
    6080) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652011)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only thing that the moderators can do is fairly treat those that are here. Follow the posting rules, and your posts stay. Break them, and see your posts disappear.

    What do moderators have to do with the issue Orgil has raised?

    I was just wondering that. :D

    He keeps claiming that S@H is unfair because there are not enough people outside of Western Europe and English speaking countries on the message boards. This is a response to that.

    It's simple and people keep deflecting the issues.
    I have said, simply, to him that his use of "fair" is incorrect.
    He has been provided, by me and OzzFan, suggestions for making the forums become more diverse.
    This has nothing to do with moderators or moderation. Simply stated.
    6081) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 652003)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only thing that the moderators can do is fairly treat those that are here. Follow the posting rules, and your posts stay. Break them, and see your posts disappear.

    What do moderators have to do with the issue Orgil has raised?
    6082) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651996)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My point was the phenomenon of Seti members from only 5-10 countries being active in the Forum not any personal hate/like feeling things.

    And I am suggesting this phenomenon is Not Fair. If there is possible solution presented in our case then at least people from 50 countries talking here then that would be Fair Phenomenon.


    With all due respect, Orgil, fairness is not the issue.
    6083) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651991)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... and I wouldn't go to a Christian board insisting that Mohamed is the proper Savior ... .


    Muslims do not claim Mohammed was a/the savior. They refer to him as a prophet. They also apparently deny the divinity of Christ. Some seem to claim that He did not save the world but that God/Allah will send Him back a second time and that it is at that time He will be The Savior.
    Where did I get this from? Marwan of Jordan.
    But, of course, this is off-topic, isn't it?
    6084) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651898)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Orgil raised some valid points, but to call something unfair is unwarranted.
    OzzFan raised some valid points as well, but not all of them were.
    Keep on the point Orgil originally raised. Ultimately, if Orgil or others want a more diverse forum, then, as a volunteer project, they should advertise to as many people from diverse places about SETI and BOINC in general and then also encourage these people to participate in the forums if they so wish.
    That is all that needs to be said. Plain and simple. For example, KM kept it simple, to the point and truthful. No need for endless debate, devolving into deflections of the main points, etc. ... .


    And this is the reason for the "endless debate". With all due respect, what makes Orgil, myself or even yourself final arbitrator as to what SETI@Home should do? Why is it that SETI@Home should advertise all over the place and target specific nationalities (I really dislike the term race because there's only one race - the human race!)?

    To target specific nationalities would also be to slight anyone who speaks English as well. After all, why can't they be targeted too? And who's to say that SETI@Home doesn't target anything other than English? I've seen a relative amount of Asian nationalities post here in their native tongue.

    Really, I think all of this is a non-issue. Others disagree with me. Hence the debate.


    "They" does not refer to SETI@Home.
    "They" refers to Orgil and other volunteer participants. This should be clear in context and also that the pronoun "they" followed the immediately previous nouns "Orgil and others."
    Sorry to be a bit pedantic, but I sincerely hope this clears up the misunderstanding.
    6085) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651845)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread was pointed out by someone who is:
    Not a member of "The 30."
    Not a member of TFFE.
    Not in the United States of America.

    This person does post here, but has not posted in this thread.

    Not sure if I can get my head around this one Sarge. But I will say this if I may. The 30 is made up of people from a number of teams, including Team England which I am a member of. I was also member of TFFE and KWSN and other teams before that. This incessant claim that The 30 represents TFFE, and is led and created by them is utterly not true, as is any claim that it is utterly staffed by dwarfs and elders of the Cockney Ankle tribe of Zimbabwe.

    I hope this straightens a few facts out. Certain people, one at least who has posted in this thread, seems to be getting her facts and claims totally wrong again.


    Agreed and it simply to point out that:
    1) the discussion has been deflected from what Orgil originally raised and what cRunchy followed up on;
    2) people are watching and are concerned ... and are not members of either of these groups/teams.

    Do not attempt to reason with the unreasonable. :)
    6086) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651829)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Furthermore, Orgil is not a member of TFFE nor "The 30."
    cRunchy is not a member of "The 30."
    Attempts to deflect Orgil's thread into a discussion of the team TFFE or "The 30" (which is not a team) is unwarranted.
    Orgil raised some valid points, but to call something unfair is unwarranted.
    OzzFan raised some valid points as well, but not all of them were.
    Keep on the point Orgil originally raised. Ultimately, if Orgil or others want a more diverse forum, then, as a volunteer project, they should advertise to as many people from diverse places about SETI and BOINC in general and then also encourage these people to participate in the forums if they so wish.
    That is all that needs to be said. Plain and simple. For example, KM kept it simple, to the point and truthful. No need for endless debate, devolving into deflections of the main points, etc. ... .
    6087) Message boards : Politics : The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED (Message 651812)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread was pointed out by someone who is:
    Not a member of "The 30."
    Not a member of TFFE.
    Not in the United States of America.

    This person does post here, but has not posted in this thread.
    6088) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 651730)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good luck with the relocation.
    I'm more likely to find your posts on the CC Forum rather than here in Team Recruitment.
    6089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 651674)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo

    Bump.
    6090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 651614)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo
    6091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : which Carl Sagan book should I read first? (Message 651575)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go in chronological order.
    6092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 651574)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean @Sarge. Please do not confuse me with others.


    No, I was talking to Fuzzy.
    BOTD is already back, just over at Beta, and FOTD is past.



    No, you were reminded by me first.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=42451&nowrap=true#651260
    6093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 651566)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't expect a serious response to that post. Most of the threads here are trivial. People talk about trivial things all the time, there's nothing wrong with that. Trivial is fun!

    I don't want the FOTD thread back. As for the rest, I'm pleading the 5th to keep the peace.



    @Fuzzy, I know BOTD is at Beta. My memory isn't that bad yet. :)





    You mean @Sarge. Please do not confuse me with others.
    6094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 651339)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good evening Dan, and hockey.

    Tomorrow is my friday, off for 10 days. Ahh, gonna be nice not listing to everyones problems and having the police go deal with um. LOL

    I'll take some pictures when I'm out there, show you guys the beautiful Nevada desert. LOL

    Anyhow, almost bed time. See you all tomorrow.


    Night, J. I'm headed to bed soon as well.
    6095) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED**** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XI ****CLOSED (Message 651336)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Broke 275K total for BOINC projects. :-)

    Congrats!
    6096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 651319)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    We have a new submission for logo!
    6097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 651260)
    Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When are we getting a Pride and Prejudice thread?


    After we get the "Babe of the day" and "Flame of the day" threads back.


    Not these trivial things again.
    Besides, you can get BOTD on SETI Beta. Isn't that enough?
    If not, PM me.
    6098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 651133)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo
    6099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 651129)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dune, is your sis going to design some stuff for our coffee/tea threads? :)
    6100) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 651016)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see that Exit13 has registered on our forums, and made a couple of posts.

    Welcome again. Hope you enjoy your time with us. :-)


    Yes, I saw that (again) after my post and it stuck in my mind this time. Unfortunately, the brand of hard rock and metal he mentioned there is not the type of hard rock/metal I go for.
    6101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Asides from SETI....Home Users Only (Message 651006)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Work related, while at home: teaching and researching related stuff.
    Non-work related: stuff. LOL!
    6102) Message boards : Number crunching : Apologies To Wingmen (Message 650766)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (or explaining how tracking down can be accomplished).

    I wrote it, so I looked back through my own posting history for one that seemed relevant!

    (pssssst - there's a search function, too)


    The search function often returns an error.
    Google or Yahoo work nicely, though.
    6103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 650577)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Always one to follow orders, the Captain suddenly discovers the perils of hosting the annual bartenders mini cruise on a ship named "Martini".


    Speaking of bartenders, where's Pawly?
    6104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 650562)
    Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey lets have a Tea Party! All the Beer, Whisky, Coffee and that Nice Tea Earl Grey! We Can Invite Mrs. Miggins and Sarge from down the street..Those two Nuts
    can be the entertainment....

    Earl Grey is quite fine.
    As a doddering Picard once said, "I could swear that this is Darjeeling."
    6105) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos looking for new members ( 4 ) (Message 650523)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Sarge..just talked to Labbie..told me that you're a vocalist..care to send me some links to your recordings..Im a guitar player..Think we'd have a lot to talk about,bro..




    Cheers!!


    Have you visited the Calm Chaos forums yet?
    6106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 650521)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems to me that these particular rules are probably ones with some built in flexibility, whereas other rules should not be messed with.
    6107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650497)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Having been 18 barely 1-2 months and the summer camp did not pay a lot, I was in no position to buy a motorcycle like that! :)
    6108) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 650495)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Well, thanks to Eric (?) and Richard, I can finally and proudly say that I joined the 8 Year Club about one month ago. :)


    yes to Eric (Sarge) . . . and CONGRATULATIONS Sir!

    Congratulations to All the 8 Year Veterans - Berkeley is Quite Proud (i'm sure) of Each of Your Persistence in the Search and as Well - the Science . . .

    note: guess i've got four months before i get there eh . . .



    Well, I figure if it wasn't him, his PM response would have been, "What are you talking about?!?" So, that means it's a good chance it was him.

    ( Something for Chris to chew on. :) )


    why would you think that (i), richard had access to the Server and would fix said problem - i simply TOLD Eric WHAT the problem was and links to your account (for 'expediency' sake) and Eric set it right . . .

    <------------ps - hit 100,000 Credits today ;) (usin' HP Cruncher from June 22, 2007) darn RAC though ;( ;))))

    i'm just happy your date is fixed Sarge - CONGRATULATIONS on YOUR 8 Years here @ SETI BOINC . . .




    LOL.
    6109) Message boards : Number crunching : Apologies To Wingmen (Message 650494)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sirius B, it was discussed in your "Detaching from Project" thread, I think.
    I had to switch between two laptops very quickly (not my choice) and had a large cache. Some folks walked me through moving the stuff off the one laptop to the other so I could finish crunching what was in the cache.


    Thanks Sarge, problem was that I could not find the thread, went through the threads again, & still can't find it.

    I wanted to save it for future reference.

    You may have been thinking of this post.

    And remember to check the addendum.


    Yes, that's the one, Richard. Sirius B, he beat me to tracking down the thread (or explaining how tracking down can be accomplished).
    6110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650490)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650489)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    6112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650488)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650487)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650485)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650484)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good. I never watched all of it.

    Here it is (I liked the youtube you offered)

    The movie, and that song, came out during the first summer I worked at a summer camp. Later in the summer, kids were coming to the camp raving about how "awesome" the movie and that song were. I never had an interest to see the whole movie.
    6116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 650442)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do we join forums?

    Because the abuse here is slightly less irritating than the abuse in the workplace...

    I'm guessing most forum posters don't have a clue about what I just said... ;)


    Sorry Jeffrey, you guessed wrong, & you're right it is a lot less irrating.


    Never tell Jeffrey he is wrong. :)


    Why not????

    Its a lot more fun that way ...

    ;-)



    He won't believe you.
    6117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650440)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good. I never watched all of it.
    6118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 650436)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do we join forums?

    Because the abuse here is slightly less irritating than the abuse in the workplace...

    I'm guessing most forum posters don't have a clue about what I just said... ;)


    Sorry Jeffrey, you guessed wrong, & you're right it is a lot less irrating.


    Never tell Jeffrey he is wrong. :)
    6119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650433)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Top Gun, you say?
    6120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650398)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The grand re-opening!
    6121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650397)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well that's OK then.

    Set em up barkeep, 4 pints of mild & bitter, and a Babycham for the Wife...


    Coming right up!
    6122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 650304)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?
    6123) Message boards : Number crunching : Apologies To Wingmen (Message 650217)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sirius B, it was discussed in your "Detaching from Project" thread, I think.
    I had to switch between two laptops very quickly (not my choice) and had a large cache. Some folks walked me through moving the stuff off the one laptop to the other so I could finish crunching what was in the cache.
    6124) Message boards : Number crunching : Why was I denied credit? (Message 650216)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you look at the 'result ID' you'll see the answer your machine gave, didn't match that of your wingman closely enough and after a third user returned it the other two matched and were granted credit. Yours since it didn't match the others was considered "invalid", so no credit was issued. If you see this happen frequently, you might need to service the machine.

    How is it you track these things down? (Then interpret?) It might be good to know so others can provide similar help when you're asleep. ( Or do you sleep very little, like Thorin? :) )
    6125) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Global Warming ,Astroids,controling the ... (Message 650215)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Earth climate is best described by non linear equations, which can bring to chaos theory. There are efforts like climateprediction.net to approximate these equations by linear equations, much depending on the initial conditions. Unfortunately, they require a great computing power and my PII Deschutes is not adequate. Maybe they should port these programs to the Playstation3, like Folding@home has done, with terrific results (more than one petaflop).
    Tullio

    Hmmm. Now that I have a better computer to work with, maybe I can donate some time to climateprediction again. The WUs would have taken at least 84 hours on my older laptop!
    6126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649969)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I remember the Timmy Dance! lmao

    time for an encore/reprise?

    I'de do it for you but ... unfortunately I'm too uncoordinated...

    lol
    If it's not by Tim, how can it be The Timmy Dance?
    6127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649966)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I remember the Timmy Dance! lmao

    time for an encore/reprise?
    6128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649965)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK Back to happy times......

    Let's talk about Timmy and The Timmy Dance.


    Or DB's evil brother...




    lol
    6129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . watCh out! - 100,000 Cobblestones (Message 649906)
    Posted 28 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thanks again to Each of You - It is Appreciated - after all - THIS is for the SCIENCE that we are here and i believe every little bit counts - regardless

    < ps - thanks for the Mails from 'the others' - they are appreciated too

    (though maybe 'you' could Post in the actual thread ;)



    These mysterious others should introduce themselves. :)
    6130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 649824)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I tried to find the bar Johnny Reznik frequents.
    I wound up at Darien Lake instead.
    6131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sense & Sensibilty (Message 649821)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    English
    Irish
    and German.
    6132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 649818)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rick Donovan wins this round with "And the winner of the intergalactic TOM GREEN look alike contest is ZOLTAIR!"
    6133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 649780)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With my weak eyes, I count 11 or 12. Give me about 2 hours and hopefully I will have new glasses. In the meantime, post a few more captions for this one.
    6134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 649714)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am going to wait 6 or 7 hours, at least, before choosing a winner. I need to buy a new pair of glasses when I leave work this afternoon, as I can barely see well enough to read. This serves to explain the delay. Keep the captions coming in the meantime.
    6135) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Scientists burn water? (Message 649511)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note that water is not listed as an element.

    I just figured he was talking about Hydrogen.


    If he was, Hydrogen is in the 1.5% all others. Hardly the most abundant element on the planet.


    I don't know where you got the figures in your previous post, but hydrogen is THE most abundant of all elements in the universe.




    That did strike me as wrong.
    Aren't the "lighter" elements the most abundant, generally speaking?

    [EDIT]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen#Natural_occurrence
    Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, making up 75% of normal matter by mass and over 90% by number of atoms.[6] This element is found in great abundance in stars and gas giant planets. Molecular clouds of H2 are associated with star formation. Hydrogen plays a vital role in powering stars through proton-proton reaction nuclear fusion.

    Throughout the universe, hydrogen is mostly found in the atomic and plasma states whose properties are quite different from molecular hydrogen. As a plasma, hydrogen's electron and proton are not bound together, resulting in very high electrical conductivity and high emissivity (producing the light from the sun and other stars). The charged particles are highly influenced by magnetic and electric fields. For example, in the solar wind they interact with the Earth's magnetosphere giving rise to Birkeland currents and the aurora. Hydrogen is found in the neutral atomic state in the Interstellar medium. The large amount of neutral hydrogen found in the damped Lyman-alpha systems is thought to dominate the cosmological baryonic density of the Universe up to redshift z=4.[7]

    Under ordinary conditions on Earth, elemental hydrogen exists as the diatomic gas, H2 (for data see table). However, hydrogen gas is very rare in the Earth's atmosphere (1 ppm by volume) because of its light weight, which enables it to escape from Earth's gravity more easily than heavier gases. Although H atoms and H2 molecules are abundant in interstellar space, they are difficult to generate, concentrate, and purify on Earth. Still, hydrogen is the third most abundant element on the Earth's surface.[8] Most of the Earth's hydrogen is in the form of chemical compounds such as hydrocarbons and water.[9] Hydrogen gas is produced by some bacteria and algae and is a natural component of flatus. Methane is a hydrogen source of increasing importance.

    [/EDIT]
    6136) Message boards : Number crunching : Apologies To Wingmen (Message 649508)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sirius, I don't think apologies are necessary as long as you do the right thing, i.e., aborting the remaining WUs as you say you will do.

    I had to do the same thing 2 days ago. I thought I had turned on the NNT, but apparently didn't. When you abort the WUs are automatically put back into the queue, ready for assignment to another cruncher.

    Just make sure you update after you abort.



    Could he not have done what I did a few weeks ago when switching computers?
    6137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649476)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Godo evening cafe dwellers!

    Hello, Frodo. :)
    6138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649469)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The love o Tim's imagination!

    Keep up with the meds CA?

    I sent this to another thrad to spread some love and it got Deleated.....
    I guess I cant post there........and if you read this...Kiss Kiss Kiss!

    Enforced segregation...But what the heck...We can see it here...So it's cool.


    Does this mean I have to sit in the back of the bus because I do not have a crewcut?
    6139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 649435)
    Posted 27 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the winner:



    Alright, have at it and post some captions! :)
    6140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 649433)
    Posted 26 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, busy afternoon.
    I'll post a funny pic in a few minutes.
    6141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 649033)
    Posted 26 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Will my RAC hit 1100 soon?
    6142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 648859)
    Posted 26 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Join human resources for "The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team," a workshop based on the best selling book by Patrick Lencioni, on Oct. 9 from 9 a.m. to noon in Rowe Hall 229. In his book, Lencioni reviews the five dysfunctions that prevent most organizations from optimally performing: absence of trust, fear of conflict, inability to commit, lack of accountability, and inattention to results. Participants will explore how to apply strategies to overcome the challenges teams encounter. Harley Blake will facilitate. Call 6447 to register; seating is limited.
    6143) Message boards : SETI@home Science : NASA Begins Hunt for New Astronauts (Message 648767)
    Posted 26 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :D
    6144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 648766)
    Posted 26 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Beets.
    Good luck from me as well.
    6145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 648706)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Two Sides of a Soul (W.A.S.; February, 1996)

    There is an emotional side to me
    that wants to you hold you in my arms so tight,
    make everything alright.
    (Though that side is getting smaller.)
    Because you look so sad.
    Come on and tell me,
    what was it that hurt you so bad?

    There is an emotional side of me
    that also wants to tell you
    go to hell.
    (And it's getting stronger.)
    And on your way down,
    I will sarcastically
    wish you well.

    There is the intellectual side in me
    that tells me, walk away.
    (And it's always speaking, always there.)
    Just walk away from you.
    Yet, if it's so damn logical,
    then why is it so damn hard to do?
    6146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 648698)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    500th post
    The one with the poem
    you'll love the most.
    Wherever I may roam,
    with my breakfast there is usually toast.
    When you find yourself in Rome,
    it is best not to boast.
    Now that you have read this tome,
    take a rest then eat a roast.
    6147) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (summary) (Message 648695)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see now that there's a help button in the BOINC manager, leading to the Help Desk.
    Which version was it where this began to show up?
    Again, anything that can be done to better advertise this or, if someone has already stumbled into the forums, advertising the links to get help?

    Thoughts?
    6148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 648688)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for a Stein or 3 of cold cold beer before bed


    Make it four, and you've got a drinking partner!


    Good OK!


    Al and Dan got the snacks, we's a rumbling!


    Hope you're drinking draft, we have a small problem with the bottled delivery.




    I told KM not to let Labbie be the CC truck driver!
    6149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : boinc stats in signature (Message 648687)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    are the stats generated in the signature able to become dynamic?

    cheers

    alan


    I haven't tried one of these, but I believe it changes as your stats change and will also reflect your results if you also start crunching for other BOINC projects besides SETI@Home.

    Can anyone confirm or deny?
    6150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 648638)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OJ?
    6151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 648291)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spock was good, but Uhura was not done just yet ... hailing frequencies still open!
    6152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 648288)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I recently spoke with African American man (a university professor), when this story was breaking. He said that the "black community," as he referred to it, did NOT necessarily believe OJ was innocent back in the mid-90s. If we had spoken longer, I might have been able to get a fuller understanding of why he told me they rallied around him anyway.
    On the other hand, I would like to know what his references were in making the initial claim.
    6153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-Closed.. (Message 648251)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :( :(
    6154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648207)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sipping more coffee while watching
    Dancing with the stars....

    No more coffee for me tonight.
    6155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 648204)
    Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Can the toolbar take GIF's? if so, I'd use this one.

    [EDIT]Or this one that Red made, but you'd have to shrink it a bit.

    Crickey, I hope they can, they look great


    Yeah, if SETI would allow GIF's for avatars, that's the one I'd be using. It is the one I use on the Calm Chaos forums.


    Labbie, conversion of a pic from one file type to another is usually not too difficult. Animated ones may pose a slight problem, though. C/A or Red might be able to speak to that issue.
    6156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 648180)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks cool, Ice. I'm just a member, though, not a "decider." :)
    6157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648163)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVhkIBW9_PE&mode=related&search=
    6158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648154)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One is the loneliest.
    6159) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 648124)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Well, thanks to Eric (?) and Richard, I can finally and proudly say that I joined the 8 Year Club about one month ago. :)


    yes to Eric (Sarge) . . . and CONGRATULATIONS Sir!

    Congratulations to All the 8 Year Veterans - Berkeley is Quite Proud (i'm sure) of Each of Your Persistence in the Search and as Well - the Science . . .

    note: guess i've got four months before i get there eh . . .



    Well, I figure if it wasn't him, his PM response would have been, "What are you talking about?!?" So, that means it's a good chance it was him.

    ( Something for Chris to chew on. :) )
    6160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 648123)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hast du das "Calm Chaos" team?

    Hey Sarge, I've added Calm Chaos. But I'm having a little trouble uploading the icons. I think the skull icons might be too scary for the upload program 8-)

    LOL. Perhaps Labbie (5) can suggest an icon?
    6161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 648122)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A law-teaching professor friend of mine thinks he's cooked. He states the charges are too severe and also the other people involved can't back up any BS story he makes...

    He predicts he'll do some jail time...


    We saw what happened with "If the glove does fit, you must acquit."
    Remember to wear a pair of gloves before putting on another pair of gloves. Don't want to taint the evidence.
    6162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648121)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is the total number of posts indicated?
    6163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648091)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where are you seeing a 333333?
    6164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 648069)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hast du das "Calm Chaos" team?
    6165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 648066)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What, you do not like cookies?
    But you get a free coffee with it! :)
    6166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : On This Day (Message 648064)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_&_Doug_McKenzie
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qHpW7X2Zk8&mode=related&search=
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot70G4wSQi0 (The Music!)
    6167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 648061)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have Fun with this one.....



    Thinking that Knightmare was Santa, this little girl was quite upset to learn she had not made the list.
    6168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : On This Day (Message 648047)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which day did those two dudes "take off" to "the great white north"? :)
    6169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 647961)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oops. I meant to say "Mmmm, cookie!"
    6170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 647810)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    mmm, cookir
    6171) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 647601)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, thanks to Eric (?) and Richard, I can finally and proudly say that I joined the 8 Year Club about one month ago. :)
    6172) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (summary) (Message 647598)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see now that there's a help button in the BOINC manager, leading to the Help Desk.
    Which version was it where this began to show up?
    Again, anything that can be done to better advertise this or, if someone has already stumbled into the forums, advertising the links to get help?
    6173) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Scientists burn water? (Message 647597)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    JM7, excellent post on diversifying types of energy.
    You touched on this a little, but I recall reading a bit on how focusing on ONLY a single one of these can be detrimental. Have anything more to add in this respect?
    6174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Noitacifitnedi fo etisoppo Sesrevinu (Message 647594)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Si ereht yna ecnahc fo ITES ot tceted etisoppo sesrevinu?!

    esaelp etirw ni siht redro! (-:


    SETI is not searching for parallel universes (or, as you call them, opposite), just for signals from any ETIs that might be in our own universe.
    6175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : zwerg8_thorin UOTD!!!-CLOSED (Message 647558)
    Posted 24 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulations Thoren (I thought you had to be taller than 3 feet to be UOTD):)

    LOL! Er sind zwei times das!
    6176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : zwerg8_thorin UOTD!!!-CLOSED (Message 647527)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WTG!
    That makes 2 of 30+ in recent weeks.
    I'll bet it takes more than that many (30) votes to become UOTD.
    ( And both in Calm Chaos, too! :) )
    6177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 647466)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crap. Dan 's gonna start a "Big Mamma's House" thread? :)
    6178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 647373)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stop, stop, you don't want to end up living like us!!!!

    That was one of the reasons for Dr. Ransom's mission. :)
    6179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 647333)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've taken inspiration from the good book for the next one...




    Dr. Ransom arrived on his mission to Perelandra just a little too late.
    (If you do not understand, check out the Out of the Silent Planet trilogy.)
    6180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Trans Siberian tour... (Message 647332)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Trans Siberian Orchestra is great; I like the evolution that the group Savatage made.

    I was waiting for Savatage to be mentioned. How many of those guys are still involved in TSO? Then again, how many of our fellow crunchers have even heard of Savatage?
    6181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646921)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speechless. :)
    6182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646890)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol
    6183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 646888)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    SETI@Home forum posters scramble to find another way to "Blame MsFit!"
    6184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646868)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2 million flushes later and ...

    Dan ... I thought you said smells like a frog?

    I don't know how to smell like a frog.

    But you do know how to smell like a bag of poots tho. LOL


    You're mean! :)

    Nah, look at him, a ball of gas. LOL What do you expect??? Borgs don't smell. :-)


    Ah. I see the logic.

    Borg don't smell?...They reek!...Borg never bathe.


    C'mon. They fly around in cubes and spheres. Cleanliness is next to perfection, to them.

    Have you checked out the Borg Queen lately...She's slimy.


    She usually uses Clearisil.
    6185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646863)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2 million flushes later and ...

    Dan ... I thought you said smells like a frog?

    I don't know how to smell like a frog.

    But you do know how to smell like a bag of poots tho. LOL


    You're mean! :)

    Nah, look at him, a ball of gas. LOL What do you expect??? Borgs don't smell. :-)


    Ah. I see the logic.

    Borg don't smell?...They reek!...Borg never bathe.


    C'mon. They fly around in cubes and spheres. Cleanliness is next to perfection, to them.
    6186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646858)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2 million flushes later and ...

    Dan ... I thought you said smells like a frog?

    I don't know how to smell like a frog.

    But you do know how to smell like a bag of poots tho. LOL


    You're mean! :)

    Nah, look at him, a ball of gas. LOL What do you expect??? Borgs don't smell. :-)


    Ah. I see the logic.
    6187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 646857)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "CR finally got that bazooka he'd always wanted for Christmas."


    LOL! :)


    I was hoping you would enjoy that. :)


    I did and a good way to make me come out of lurk mode.




    BOO!!!
    6188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646851)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2 million flushes later and ...

    Dan ... I thought you said smells like a frog?

    I don't know how to smell like a frog.

    But you do know how to smell like a bag of poots tho. LOL


    You're mean! :)
    6189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 646833)
    Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "CR finally got that bazooka he'd always wanted for Christmas."


    LOL! :)


    I was hoping you would enjoy that. :)
    6190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 646696)
    Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's it going?
    6191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 646619)
    Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was at The University of Florida.
    6192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My RAC doesn't need Viagra (Message 646319)
    Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could your recent average credit use some help?


    Why Yes!! lol


    Have you tried the optimized applications?
    If I understand correctly, they are made specifically for various CPUs, whereas BOINC is a one size fits all.
    6193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646258)
    Posted 22 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please lock this thread for a while. Thanks.
    6194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646143)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uoy ees neve ym etivaitini sgnirb tuo ruoy gnol tsol\\dessim Snah morf dnalhctueD!!!

    Close. You mean Deutschland. :)
    6195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646122)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    haey I syawla rednow yhw hguone lpp morf aisa dna acirfa od ton klat ereh taht si a gib yretsim... ylno snacirema dna snamreg ton riaf...

    Why do you suppose that is?
    6196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646113)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ti si oot gnirob ot daer eno yaw niarb nrettap ecnis taht ts1 tebahpla.

    I ma yllaer gniyrt ot ekaw uoy pu TUB OS DRAH PEELS uoy evah?! (-:


    English, please. Some of us are not multi-lingual.


    Remember, he's in Mongolia and it is quite an accomplishment that he can express himself well in English.
    6197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646104)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Go easy, Hans. Orgil is not a problem.
    :)


    But reading his posts makes my head spin :o)


    He is making a very good point about how, if we are unable to communicate with another here on Earth, how could we ever hope to have meaningful communications with ETIs if they exist.
    6198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646080)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was Scire scip eh si a 03 gnihtemos yug.

    Either that or he has aged well.


    Neht uoy dih ruoy nwo cip taht saw gnihtemos.


    Another misused it, hence it no longer shows.
    6199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 646065)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was Scire scip eh si a 03 gnihtemos yug.

    Either that or he has aged well.
    6200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645988)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG.
    Richard?
    I see the date on the left. (Guess I was wrong about April or May, but August makes sense. I knew it was at a transition time.)
    (SETI@home classic workunits 2,329 ... as opposed to the 1998 or 1999 formerly showing.)


    Eric just fixed that factor . . .

    maybe sometime - in the near future - that factor shall be put into the Equation and will 'straigthen out' All the Accounts Database . . .

    glad you like it Sir!

    (pm Eric with a Thanks maybe?)




    Something for Chris to chew on. :)


    ?em ohW



    .cirE ot sklat ydobon kniht ton seod taht eno eht, oN !spoO
    6201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645956)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG.
    Richard?
    I see the date on the left. (Guess I was wrong about April or May, but August makes sense. I knew it was at a transition time.)
    (SETI@home classic workunits 2,329 ... as opposed to the 1998 or 1999 formerly showing.)


    Eric just fixed that factor . . .

    maybe sometime - in the near future - that factor shall be put into the Equation and will 'straigthen out' All the Accounts Database . . .

    glad you like it Sir!

    (pm Eric with a Thanks maybe?)




    Something for Chris to chew on. :)
    6202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 645535)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He's around-try PM'ing him please...

    Now back to the thread... :)


    The reason I asked was specifically for the protection of this thread.
    6203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 645386)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's Michael Roberts?
    6204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645307)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    tmi
    visuals ... no!
    6205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator changes... (Message 645304)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats, Blurf.
    Good luck to Henri.
    6206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645295)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    omg
    lol
    I used to donate plasma, so I can imagine. They hated me. I drank so much coffee my blood oozed out so slow, lol.
    6207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645285)
    Posted 21 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    :)
    How are you, DB?
    6208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645281)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Done.
    Something for Chris to chew on.
    :)
    6209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 645279)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hi! :)
    6210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645267)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG.
    Richard?
    I see the date on the left. (Guess I was wrong about April or May, but August makes sense. I knew it was at a transition time.)
    (SETI@home classic workunits 2,329 ... as opposed to the 1998 or 1999 formerly showing.)
    6211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645266)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doin' alright with my allergies and such!

    I hate allergies! Hay fever can be terrible in NY State.
    6212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645259)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How ya doing, codycowboy?
    6213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645246)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich kenne das.
    (Wisse?)
    6214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645223)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645196)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which wrong stuff would that be?
    6216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645170)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, you are a lost soul. Did you see that code the Arian Brotherhood uses in prison ? I would explain it to you but.....uhhh

    Maybe Lester is an alter ego of ... ?
    6217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645156)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yllufepoh ydobyreve si emoclew ot ites. (-:



    We hope that daily.
    6218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645143)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Orgil, the guy apparently does not know you're from Mongolia. How said that, rather than being amazed by how your English can be understood and you can even express yourself in reverse English spelling ... rather than recognizing that you are addressing the very purpose of SETI ... after finding a signal, figuring out what it says! ... he turns it into one of his new harangues. :(
    6219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 645100)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ?ligrO, uoy gnisoppo enoemos sI
    6220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To be, or not to be? the SETI Forums (Message 644873)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's up with http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate.php?

    Unable to handle request

    HOME PARTICIPATE ABOUT COMMUNITY YOUR ACCOUNT STATISTICS

    missing or bad parameter: inV

    HOME PARTICIPATE ABOUT COMMUNITY YOUR ACCOUNT STATISTICS
    Copyright © 2007 University of California
    6221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To be, or not to be? the SETI Forums (Message 644872)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Berkeley, you rock!
    BOINC4evah, yo!
    6222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 644707)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wb db :)
    6223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 644694)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yhw?

    Esuaceb ti si yhtlaeh?

    I naem emoc no yna etaretil nosrep elba ot od siht. I ma ton neve a evitan hsilgne rekaeps.


    I wonk! I kniht ruoy hsilgnE sah emoceb retteb!
    6224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DogBytes' Bail Fund (Message 644655)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dennis, now that you're back ... when what you talk to a wall becomes ... no more hospitals ... on http://red.esmartweb.com/Sarge.html you your frustration take out.
    6225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 644651)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I kniht elpoep deen ot trats gnitirw siht yaw esuaceb siht si yhtlaeh.

    Wow, Orgil!
    I think we tried something similar to that on the forums a few weeks ago.
    Some did not like it.
    6226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 644647)
    Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hi!
    6227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 644449)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's, now caffeinating your RACs to 1000 and above! :)

    My RAC will rise again soon...I have optimized yet another machine...and once all the other projects get their stuff crunched i will have another run at SETI to see how much i can crunch.

    How many machines do you have BOINCing?
    How many projects?
    6228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 644439)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now it's time for some acid indigestion.

    LOL! Ouch!
    6229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 644437)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's, now caffeinating your RACs to 1000 and above! :)
    6230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 644219)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Live on Fox News,Court TV and CNN Waiting for
    OJ to enter Court, Nothing like a good OJ trail
    to liven up your Day....

    Like the high "drama" low speed chase of June 1994?


    do YOU 'realize' - "how much $money$ was PAID OUT to tons of people to stand out there on the Freeway Overpasses . . . ? and 'ROOT' 'im on . . .?

    oh oh - i shall be very, very quiet from THIS moment on . . . ;))))


    You do realize that while most of the nation was glued to their televisions for that idiocy, I went for a walk?
    6231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 644201)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Live on Fox News,Court TV and CNN Waiting for
    OJ to enter Court, Nothing like a good OJ trail
    to liven up your Day....

    Like the high "drama" low speed chase of June 1994?
    6232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 644184)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember to already have on a pair of gloves before finding out if another pair of gloves will fit.
    6233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Juice is back behind bars :0 (Message 644087)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The man got away with brutally killing his ex-wife and her friend. I hope someone did set him up for this robbery and he spends the next 30 years in prison. Karma's a bi**h...

    Allready decided have you ? The DNA blood test said it was 2 in 6 Billion that somebody else could have done it ! So, beyond a reasonable doubt ? Jury was right on this one....

    DNA? What's that? :)
    6234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643930)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Coffee Time!

    But it's late!
    6235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 643918)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "CR finally got that bazooka he'd always wanted for Christmas."
    6236) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 to avoid (Message 643917)
    Posted 19 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fred W: A cursory search shows the first user can receive private messages. Have you tried to contact him with your concerns?

    If taking this route, do it nicely!
    Just inform him/her about the newer versions. I think going the route of "you're holding back my RAC" would be bad. On the other, besides pointing out the newer versions, indicate how this will do a better job for SETI.
    So on and so forth.
    My humble ideas, submitted.
    6237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643831)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)


    OK. I think we get the drift.


    Thanks, Chris. Not that I intended to say any more, but you have let me know that if the temptation arises ... avoid it.


    :-)
    :-)


    Resisting.
    Resisting.
    Help, Chris!


    Heck. I can't resist anymore.
    Looks, folks ... .
    If you're in a bad mood ... .
    Posters, before posting something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Thanks to Red Atomic for it. You can beat up on a bobble-head Sarge!
    Mods, before posting, moderating or e-mailing something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Yadda yadda yadda, repeat above end comments.

    (Disclaimer: Red Atomic ... NOT a member of "The 30.")


    John, I meant click the link at the top of the post. Do so whenever you feel frustrated.

    Sarge That Pic is just Wrong! LOL
    I got your head bouncing all over the screen!


    Knock my head around when you're in a bad mood. :)
    Thanks to Red Atomic.
    6238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Loss of a cruncher (Message 643829)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Blurf. Looking at his profile, I wonder what he taught.
    6239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643823)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)


    OK. I think we get the drift.


    Thanks, Chris. Not that I intended to say any more, but you have let me know that if the temptation arises ... avoid it.


    :-)
    :-)


    Resisting.
    Resisting.
    Help, Chris!


    Heck. I can't resist anymore.
    Looks, folks ... .
    If you're in a bad mood ... .
    Posters, before posting something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Thanks to Red Atomic for it. You can beat up on a bobble-head Sarge!
    Mods, before posting, moderating or e-mailing something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Yadda yadda yadda, repeat above end comments.

    (Disclaimer: Red Atomic ... NOT a member of "The 30.")


    John, I meant click the link at the top of the post. Do so whenever you feel frustrated.
    6240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please send my wife your condolences :-( (Message 643781)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats ... er, condolences.
    6241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Loss of a cruncher (Message 643777)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blurf, do you have a link to some info about John? I'm sure many of us did not know him, but are curious to know a little of who are fellow cruncher was.
    6242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 643666)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is that Olga? :)
    6243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 643665)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this this Toolbar available in other languages?

    Yes, you can build these toolbars in many different languages http://accounts.conduit.com/Wizard/, but I built this in English and typed all the menu items in English.

    I don't know If I can convert mine into other languages, but I'll take a deeper look later and let you know champ.


    This would be great. I want to posts this Toolbar in my Teamfora.


    That's the spirit! :)
    6244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's brilliant !!! (Message 643366)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The screenshot demonstrates various options that are available on the drop-down menus. Apparently, the menus include sub-menus? :)
    6245) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (summary) (Message 643357)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Alinator" wrote:
    Another possibility might be if some of us NC regulars popped into the Q & A area a little more often to help out there.

    ...

    The only thing I might ask of them is to take little time to look over the running threads before starting a new one. You can be pretty sure that any project related problem has most likely been detected by one of the regulars and been brought up for closer scrutiny. Generally we regulars take the effort to make 'problem' related titles descriptive enough so almost everyone can see which ones are applicable to their situations, as a recent new thread just demonstrated. ;-)


    "msattler" wrote:
    And some problems require the help of a techie type to get to the bottom of.


    "RandyC" wrote:
    You might consider reading the Enhanced FAQ thread as well as the FAQ itself.


    "Alinator" wrote:
    We NC regulars should make the effort to:

      1.) Keep an eye on the more entry level Q & A fora, and help out there some more, especially when we know there are current issues with the project which have wide ranging impact to the participants.
      2.) Take a closer look at the user profile when a 'newbie' posts here in NC to get a least a thumbnail feel for where they are coming from.
      3.) Keep in mind everyone was a newbie once, and someone with a post count of like 2 and posts with a title of 'Help??!!', is probably deep in the smelly stuff already and reeling from what the Manager has been telling him about what's wrong for the last week. The 'Readers Digest' condensed version of the answer may be better in this case.



    For the Newbies amd Lurkers:

      1.) Keep in mind, NC is where the rubber meets the road when it comes to BOINC and SAH. A lot of action happens in here, and lot of it is pretty 'heavy duty'.
      2.) That being said, most of us eat this stuff up with a spoon, and are more than willing to bend your ear about it in excruciating detail, if you give us half a chance.
      3.) Even then, the first 'Rule of Wisdom' says that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. So if the first reply elicits a 'glazed eye' response on your part, just say, 'BOINC!!?? What the @#$% does that mean?'



    "Red Atomic" wrote:
    Maybe a stickied thread called "Beginners - Start Here"
    Where a Simple message could point someone to the right place.


    "OzzFan" wrote:
    There is an alternative to the BOINC Wiki, for those that feel lost on that site (no offense to all those who worked hard to contribute to the BOINC Wiki - it's a great site with lots of info).

    The BOINC FAQ Service should be a lot easier to search, and we strive to answer questions in layman's terms.


    From Jim-R's sig:

    http://boinc-wiki.ath.cx/index.php?title=Main_Page
    and
    http://68.222.181.19/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=2.
    6246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 643332)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could be from one of the huge pictures?
    6247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 643329)
    Posted 18 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    He sent me one saying he felt like he was banging his head against a wall. I PM'd him back suggesting he walk away from the wall. At least temporarily. He just said "OK" and that was the last I heard from him. :(


    ouch! Calling 911 would have been a better suggestion.


    He didn't say he was experiencing pain, but I am wondering if he was at the time,
    6248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 643293)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get well soon Dennis.

    Hope I didn't jinx you with the PM I sent just before you got sick.


    He sent me one saying he felt like he was banging his head against a wall. I PM'd him back suggesting he walk away from the wall. At least temporarily. He just said "OK" and that was the last I heard from him. :(
    6249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 643275)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry to hear of the continued difficulties, Beets. Like DB, we'll keep you and your computers in our hearts, minds and prayers.


    Awww, Thanks Sarge! I sure think about you guys when I'm not around!


    If the computer problems really irritate you, see the latest link in my coffee/tea shop thread. BBL!
    6250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643272)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)


    OK. I think we get the drift.


    Thanks, Chris. Not that I intended to say any more, but you have let me know that if the temptation arises ... avoid it.


    :-)
    :-)


    Resisting.
    Resisting.
    Help, Chris!


    Heck. I can't resist anymore.
    Looks, folks ... .
    If you're in a bad mood ... .
    Posters, before posting something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Thanks to Red Atomic for it. You can beat up on a bobble-head Sarge!
    Mods, before posting, moderating or e-mailing something as foul as your mood, click the link at the top of this post. Yadda yadda yadda, repeat above end comments.

    (Disclaimer: Red Atomic ... NOT a member of "The 30.")
    6251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643269)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heyas! and Thanks, Richard.

    I see Sarge is here too. Hi Sarge! I"m sorry I didn't get your google thingie until you'd left. I was away from the machine for hours.


    [Edit]: It sounds like he's finally getting some medical attention. Good!!!


    Not a problem, Beets.
    So, DB went straight to the good hospital right from the start, guys?
    6252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 643268)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry to hear of the continued difficulties, Beets. Like DB, we'll keep you and your computers in our hearts, minds and prayers.
    6253) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 643225)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I notice that this thread isn't "sticky" anymore, so to keep it from being lost to the non-techies forever, I thought I'd "bump" it forward...

    My apologies, if this tactic offends, but I think this thread is a wonderful idea. Even if it's not frequently posted to, it could provide useful help and links to the newcomers and non-techies here.

    Anyways...


    Not a problem at all.
    We'll get it sorted out.
    Unfortunately, several misunderstandings abound and the loss of this thread's sticky status is most likely directly related to that.
    Keep NC for providing solutions and not for personal battles. :)
    I'll point out, again, that this thread started because of one person's questions/suggestions to me. These in turn came from what he has heard from other newbies. All I did was pass on questions and suggestions.
    6254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643222)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    use crunChr's 2.4v with the BOINC Core Client 5.10.20 w/ SETI optimised 5.27 for Window Boxes . . .






    I'm using 2.4_SSE3-Core2, based on the info about the CPU provided by the program CPU-Z and the assistance of our good Labbie and some other great helpers in the NC Forums.


    btw Sarge - i could 'ave sworn You 'ad a Thread Stickied in NC that was for 'Newbies'???


    There was. If it no longer is, you can bet it occurred at the same time the one in the Politics Forum lost its sticky status.
    Quite sad.
    6255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 643221)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    so . . . where is Beets anyhow?

    Look for him at the G.
    Opposite of female.
    Sometimes he's around for a brief G chat.
    6256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643200)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    use crunChr's 2.4v with the BOINC Core Client 5.10.20 w/ SETI optimised 5.27 for Window Boxes . . .






    I'm using 2.4_SSE3-Core2, based on the info about the CPU provided by the program CPU-Z and the assistance of our good Labbie and some other great helpers in the NC Forums.
    6257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643193)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)


    OK. I think we get the drift.




    Thanks, Chris. Not that I intended to say any more, but you have let me know that if the temptation arises ... avoid it.


    :-)
    :-)


    Resisting.
    Resisting.
    Help, Chris!
    6258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 643192)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like that pic was taken in ... say, Fairfax?


    > NOT that i know of - the Only Fairfax i know is in Southern California - just below Hollywood . . .

    < i took the Photograph of Dennis during the October 2006 in Washington, DC TFFE Meet . . .



    ed. sp






    http://maps.yahoo.com/broadband#mvt=m&q1=fairfax%2C+va&trf=0&lon=-77.306328&lat=38.847195&mag=7
    6259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643191)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you tried the optimized apps, Dan?

    Yes...My laptop is using the latest...But I'm having a wee problem with my other rigs...should be resolved soon as i get to it...I had been optimized before with the older applications.

    Cool. Do you think the problems with the others is something the guys in NC could provide suggestions about? (I never did get feedback about addressing non-SETI related technical issues.)

    I think it was a problem with me not following the directions completely...I'll be up and running at full speed soon.

    So it is a SETI/BOINC/Optimized Apps issue, rather than some unrelated problem with other computers?
    6260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News re Dogbytes (Message 643188)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like that pic was taken in ... say, Fairfax?
    6261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643174)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    whats an app?

    Short for application.
    As one of youngest, Al, I expected you to be up on the tech savvy terminology.
    But, maybe it is a language thing.
    :)

    [EDIT: my RAC is 2 to 3 times the highest it ever was without using optimized applications.]

    Ty for the info,much appreciated!



    Do you want to try to get your computer to do a better job of crunching for SETI@Home?
    6262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643173)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you tried the optimized apps, Dan?

    Yes...My laptop is using the latest...But I'm having a wee problem with my other rigs...should be resolved soon as i get to it...I had been optimized before with the older applications.

    Cool. Do you think the problems with the others is something the guys in NC could provide suggestions about? (I never did get feedback about addressing non-SETI related technical issues.)
    6263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643164)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    whats an app?

    Short for application.
    As one of youngest, Al, I expected you to be up on the tech savvy terminology.
    But, maybe it is a language thing.
    :)

    [EDIT: my RAC is 2 to 3 times the highest it ever was without using optimized applications.]
    6264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Matthew L's BIRTHDAY on Friday - September 21, 2007 (Message 643159)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy B'Day, Matthew!
    6265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643154)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you tried the optimized apps, Dan?
    6266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643150)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)


    OK. I think we get the drift.




    Thanks, Chris. Not that I intended to say any more, but you have let me know that if the temptation arises ... avoid it.
    6267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 643148)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check out my










    <=== RAC!











    I am for SETI@Home! :)
    6268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643141)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.

    Sarge's: a cafe where the owner (read, thread author) can poke fun at himself.
    Sarge's: where if it needs to be spawned, Sarge'll use something [sexy and super] cool, like "Mach II." Or at least historically and outline style correct, like IIA instead of II point 2. :)
    6269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643012)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red, for the funny pic.
    6270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 643011)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Red!
    6271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread closed and may be locked (Message 642805)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread closed.
    6272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642804)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning all. I'm nearly awake.

    Why?...What happened?

    I went to bed ... and the next thing I knew it was morning again .. and now it has just ticked over midday.

    There was an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation very much like this.
    6273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642770)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo seti peoples!

    Aren't you supposed to be sleeping at this hour?

    Better that it's him awake than others. :)

    I'm not awake.

    Oh. :)
    6274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642766)
    Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo seti peoples!

    Aren't you supposed to be sleeping at this hour?

    Better that it's him awake than others. :)
    6275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread closed and may be locked (Message 642700)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== turning out the lights
    6276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642588)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ganz schön international hier :)

    Ein Sprachgewirr wie bei dem Turm von Babel :-O


    Entire nice international here.
    One speak-something how something something something from Babel.
    6277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642546)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    E sta se to radi A!?

    Darn it! Serbian, too?
    6278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642537)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Der hvor har i oprette at? Jer lad være nyde hvilken som helst mening hvoraf jer netop skrev , lave jer? Men Ja så et eller andet hos kaffe , altså ikke tak , Jeg har allerede fik noget.
    6279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642457)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That will be a match made in heaven. Congratulations to the happy couple.

    Hvordan har De det? idag Fuzzy Hollynoodles? MÃ¥ JEG behage nyde noget kaffe?
    6280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642454)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was sagst du?

    ماذا أنت قلت?
    你说什么?
    Wat zei u?
    Qu'avez-vous dit ?
    Che cosa avete detto?
    何を言ったか。
    당신은 무엇을 말했는가?
    Que você disse?
    Чего вы сказали?
    ¿Qué dijiste?
    Gjorde vad dig något att säga?
    6281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642447)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was sagst du?
    6282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 642426)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just in! Monday claims "Beets has been eaten by sea monsters!"
    This reporter hopes this story will resolve itself in the same way as "Jonah and the Whale."
    6283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread closed and may be locked (Message 642425)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets has been eaten by sea monsters!

    No!!!
    6284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thread closed and may be locked (Message 642391)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wouldn't you say, Beets?
    6285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642387)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I concur.
    6286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642069)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - had a long conversation today.
    6287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642066)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush and Esme are hooking up in London...It was inevitable i guess...I hope they have a wonderful time.

    I would think that they would get along, as long as they dont talk about
    Politics and Religion...

    They should just stick with discussions about love and marriage and they'll be alright.

    Al & Peg Bundy? :P

    I Know Esme fairly well and I tell ya she is no Peg Bundy! LOL

    Now, now. I was only referring to the bit about "love and marriage." (Theme song.)

    "Love and marriage
    love and marriage
    go together
    like a horse and carriage."

    Yadda yadda yadda.
    6288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642059)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush and Esme are hooking up in London...It was inevitable i guess...I hope they have a wonderful time.

    I would think that they would get along, as long as they dont talk about
    Politics and Religion...

    They should just stick with discussions about love and marriage and they'll be alright.

    Al & Peg Bundy? :P
    6289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 642035)
    Posted 16 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It just dawned on me. Dawg is going to have a lot of answers to go through when he gets back. Maybe it may not be a bad idea to let laughingboy the honors of picking this! Just an idea!

    Is he in phone contact wit da Dawg?
    6290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 642003)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good evening.
    6291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Bon Voyage, Rush... (Message 641929)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I concur.
    6292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 641824)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    mmm ribice

    fresh meat


    "Are you a dollar menunaire?"
    6293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 641821)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yummy! The Kenzie Nurses again! :)
    6294) Message boards : Number crunching : HELP!! AKA Broke-BOINC Mountain (Message 641651)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's this stand now, Pawly?
    6295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 641629)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Road Construction Ahead

    Hit the gas!

    Slam the brakes!

    Full speed ahead!

    Police lights flashing! :O

    More power, Scotty!!

    Almost double posted.
    6296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 641600)
    Posted 15 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get Well Dogbytes

    Big time ditto.
    6297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 641425)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ditto.
    6298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's just a matter of time.......and other oldies....... (Message 641343)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A m(s)att(l)er of time? :)
    6299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's just a matter of time.......and other oldies....... (Message 641309)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dream Theater
    Only A Matter Of Time (06:39)
    - Kevin Moore

     A suited man smiled said:
     'It's just a matter of time
     You can have the world at your feet by tomorrow
     just sign on this line.'
     Hold tight... limelight!
     Approaching the paramount
     with the sun in our eyes
     fearing family ties, legalies, compromise
    
     In a dimly lit room with a stool as his stage
     a dream-stricken prince of a pauper's descent
     haunts the eavesdropping silence
     that presses his window
     as he sweats a performance
     to an audience that ticks on the walls
    
     To the practical observer
     It's just a matter of time
        'You can deviate from the commonplace
        only to fall back in line.'
     I understand mine's a risky plan
     and your system can't miss
     But is security after all a cause
     or symptom of happiness?
    
     Brave, yet afraid, his eyes on horizon
     in a steady-set gaze
     a mariner soon from an open cocoon
     takes a moment to summon his courage
     to stifle his grave apprehension and
     trembling, approaches the surf
     A father's benediction as his hopeful son departs
     to brave the sea of rage and conquer at all costs
    
     lingers in his memory
     and visions still surviving in a logic-proof shell
     that should have been held sacred, safe and hidden well
     are compromised in usury
     with every rising sun that yields no sight of land
     the hesitation cultivates within the tired man
     and rumors spread of mutiny
     and though the time will come when dream and day unite
     tonight the only consolation causing him to fight
     is fearless faith in destiny
    
     Even when plan fall to pieces
     I can still find the courage
     with promise I've found in my faith
    
     Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
     and at odds with our senses we'll climb
     But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
     And if spirit's a sign
       then it's only a matter of time
       only a matter of time
    6300) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 641293)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sounds interesting, Jim. Thanks for the post.
    6301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640878)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just ... ignore ... ******.
    6302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640830)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You've been Banished!


    Who been what?


    I've been there.
    6303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640797)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last night's experience ...

    has shown us ...

    **** does matter.
    6304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640796)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last night's experience ...

    has shown us ...
    6305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640795)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last night's experience ...
    6306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640782)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just saying ... .
    6307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640744)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    don't ask/tell?
    6308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640741)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lots of love?
    6309) Message boards : Number crunching : 20 years ago... (Message 640737)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did they have 386s yet in 1987? I bought my first computer in mid-1990, a Gateway 2000 386-25. The coprocessor was a 387-25. The whole thing cost $4205 including a $500 Tatung monitor (that subsequently broke twice). The hard drive was a 110MB Microscience. At that time Gateway 2000 was offering a 486 as its cutting edge machine. I don't know. To go back three more years I guess one could get a 286. This was one month before the big stockmarket crash called "Black Monday".



    87' was at the front-end of 386 in the market, though @ $4.5K, it was too rich for me. Heck, my car cost 1/2 of that back then. I didn't know anyone who had a 386 at the time. 286 was still the mainstay for PC and w/ the substantial investment that even a 286 required, one wasn't going to upgrade every couple of years after plucking down 3-4K.

    A home computer was a serious investment 20 years ago.


    You mean one that could do much of anything. :) Right?
    6310) Message boards : Number crunching : Reflection on SETI Classic (Message 640734)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To address #4, that should not be a surprise. Was not SETI@Home the first distributed computing project and a driving force behind BOINC?
    6311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640729)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    got any proof?

    lots of it
    6312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640717)
    Posted 14 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Grad students aren't privileged in a monetary sense.
    6313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640590)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So far I've only seen comments from the folks with good to great speeds.

    I am concerned about those who are on slow connections so I can find out for myself and other members if posting videos and large file size pictures kills the forums for some, but enjoy the conversations in here and think it is nice to compare the net speeds of the planet.

    My thanks to all and to Sarge for asking this question.


    .


    I think only one or two people have mentioned slow connections (like dialup) in the past few months. No matter what you post, MrG, there's plenty of stuff out there ... on webpages they might wish to check from day to day ... that those people would have trouble with. Frankly, besides the entertainment, I must use the internet for work communication and research, etc ... . I would refuse to ever go back to a slow connection. If at all possible, I do, and will continue to do so, get a decent/fast connection and accept the costs that come with it.
    6314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640582)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I'm 64

    oops did again!
    6315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640568)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I'm 69?
    6316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640561)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So ... do the speeds we've shown help MrG answer his question?
    I generally only have trouble viewing vids he links to when on wireless.
    That doesn't mean everytime I'm on wireless.
    Also, there are only certain ones that I try to watch.
    6317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time for a Roast? Peacefully Closed (Message 640524)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "It's not policy, it's behavior"?
    6318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 640522)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Above the law.
    6319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640521)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Yorkshire to San Francisco not bad considering the extra 5000 miles

    LOL!
    I think AOL must be ... .
    6320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time for a Roast? Peacefully Closed (Message 640518)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You don't have to post here, by the way.

    But I'm afraid of no one, and I voice my disapproval of such conduct.

    It was dealt with by other moderators. Where did you get the idea that thread stretching requires an automatic ban?


    More to say, have you, Master Qui-Gon?


    No,no,no. That's a fair question. I think Qui-Gon doesn't know the history of it.

    Let him be, please. :)


    I'm "giving him a line," in two ways.
    First, a chance to expound.
    Second, from Episode I, what Yoda asked, just before Q-G asked to train Anakin.
    6321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 640516)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aight, dawg.
    6322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time for a Roast? Peacefully Closed (Message 640514)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You don't have to post here, by the way.

    But I'm afraid of no one, and I voice my disapproval of such conduct.

    It was dealt with by other moderators. Where did you get the idea that thread stretching requires an automatic ban?


    More to say, have you, Master Qui-Gon?
    6323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 640475)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woot!
    6324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640446)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've never had a problem loading or playing your videos. Even before I upgraded my connection speed from 768 kb/s to 3000 kb/s.

    btw, Thank you for making that website. I've spent many hours watching interesting videos there.


    MrG is butt-kickingly cool.
    6325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 640444)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You'd think after more than a decade people could ... .
    6326) Message boards : Number crunching : Start work-units in order of ending day (Message 640324)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's the button when i will start an selected work-unit or all of them in order of ending day ?

    There isn't one. BOINC knows automatically which ones are close to the deadline and acts accordingly.
    P.S. - Questions like this usually get dealt with in the Number Crunching forum. :)
    6327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Net connect speed poll (Message 640323)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To Chicago:
    26457 down
    6780 up
    Ping: 14 ms
    Distance: ~100 miles

    To San Jose:
    9022 down
    1122 up
    Ping: 65 ms
    Distance: ~1800 miles

    To San Francisco:
    9617 down
    1129 up
    Ping: 124 ms
    Distamce: ~1800 miles
    6328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 640316)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On Conflict
    October, 1995 (WAS)

    Wish I could say
    that I didn't see this coming,
    but I've felt this way for a long time.
    Such a very long time.
    And I wish I could say
    that only you were to blame.
    But I know the part I played (yes, I played it well) so I can't.
    But I guess you can.

    Conflict - it hardens hearts.
    Conflict - tears people apart!
    Conflicts - escalate.
    Conflicts - devastate!

    Conflict - with a forgotten start.
    Conflict - now it's gone too far.
    Raise a shield and choose your weapon.
    Bitter fight to the end.

    Wish I could stay,
    but there's nothing to be gained here.
    With each step forward, one step back.
    Can't go on like that (it's a living hell).
    Wish I could stay.
    Heal each-every-bloody wound.
    But instead I end up causing more.
    Somebody show me the door?

    Conflict - of sticks & stones.
    Conflict - see broken bones.
    Don't you see what we have managed?
    Broken hearts grow cold.
    Conflict - I think it's time ...
    Conflict - I think it's time ...
    When everything around me has been damaged,
    I know it's time to go.
    6329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 640187)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Robert!

    I cant do much posting tonight I got hit with a nasty little Trojan about 3 hours ago. ;)

    I'll be mainly lurking this early morning. Later, during business hours, I'll call Microsoft and we'll get to the bottom of this.

    Someone's in a bad mood or doesn't like me tonight.


    Trojans = the 1995 way of settling Net differences, lol.
    6330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640172)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's your birthday.

    I had no idea.

    Oops.
    Sorry.
    Got the date wrong.

    It's not the first. Surely won't be the last.

    Awww ... don't be mean to Pawly. He worked so hard to make the thread for you.

    I was up all night planning and everything!

    Nice to see your ears were burning. :)
    6331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640074)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man, all this excitement, and I forgot my popcorn. :-)

    Movie theater buttered popcorn?

    Thats the kind. Smothered in Butter. Yum!

    Oh, h3ck yeah!
    6332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640064)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Man, all this excitement, and I forgot my popcorn. :-)

    Movie theater buttered popcorn?
    6333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640052)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Coffee Wars...Episode VII

    Hilarious!
    6334) Message boards : Number crunching : 20 years ago... (Message 640050)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (In 1987, the way I was accessing the internet was through serial dialup to a local VAX/VMS .edu machine, using just a terminal emulator. PPP, or even SLIP, didn't exist yet. Actually having your own IP address, at home, was a pipe dream!)


    I was doing that on the job in 1993 and maybe a little bit between 1985 and 1990. I don't recall what they had us logging into to do some student projects.
    6335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640028)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's your birthday.

    I had no idea.

    Oops.
    Sorry.
    Got the date wrong.

    It's not the first. Surely won't be the last.

    Awww ... don't be mean to Pawly. He worked so hard to make the thread for you.

    I was up all night planning and everything!


    "It's not your fault."

    "I know."

    "No, you don't. It's not your fault."

    "I know, man!"

    "It's not your fault."

    "Don't this to me. Not you!"

    "It's not your fault."
    6336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 640025)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    900th view!
    6337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640020)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's your birthday.

    I had no idea.

    Oops.
    Sorry.
    Got the date wrong.

    It's not the first. Surely won't be the last.

    Awww ... don't be mean to Pawly. He worked so hard to make the thread for you.
    6338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640013)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's your birthday.

    I had no idea.

    Oops.
    Sorry.
    Got the date wrong.
    6339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640001)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cain't we's all git along?



    Ask him. tvlp
    6340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 640000)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that was weird.

    The board is run by ET. It's all an illusion.

    In more ways than you know.

    Doesn't explain why I got an unwelcome email, though.

    Oh don't worry about that. I got many. :-D


    It's your birthday.
    6341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 639998)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the kind thought Dan, but I can hold my own with these guys. I didn't spend 40 years in the cut and thrust of industry, rising to managerial status, without being able to deal with this sort of thing. If they want to ban me, let them go ahead. I'll be back, as others have before me, the campaign will continue regardless.

    I am but a small cog in a much larger machine, I play my part as best Ican.

    Ride on, Don!

    I think that i am not allowed to answer those in authority who have just responded to this message in a scornful way...So i will just say...while they are here...there will be little hope of anything changing...

    Hey you two, did it ever cross your mind that the Gang of 30 is so busy red x'ing the Gang of 30, that they cannot see straight?

    Do you think that helps, or hurts, the ever-shifting sands of your cause du jour?

    No...It hasn't crossed my mind...But I do think that the RED X may have become your personal "windmill" for a more personal reason...Perhaps you've been the victim of a RED X and you simply didn't like it...

    There are moderators and various mechanisms for complaints in just about every forum you visit...It is preferred by management that you use that mechanism for complaints...

    Best of luck Rush Quixote...Perhaps you will win your your never ending battle against the RED X...Your windmill awaits.


    LOL!
    6342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 639955)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More to say, have you, Master Qui-Gon?
    6343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 639943)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ^
    |

    nkf
    6344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 639912)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I need a drink or 3.

    3 sounds good. Impromptu jam session, too?
    (I can't record on this laptop in the same way as the other, so I will have to do the overdub on that one later this week.)
    6345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 639899)
    Posted 13 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    night night,stay safe

    And kill all humans, oh Metal Lord!

    (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41174&nowrap=true#639867)
    6346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 639867)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=42318&nowrap=true#639863
    Yes, DB. Dan and I do Acoustic Open Mic here about once a week. Tune in soon! :)
    6347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 639853)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOTH of you: COOL down.
    6348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rockys Coffee Club III point 3 (Message 639852)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can stop calling it a gang.
    I will have a talk with Chris S.
    And why you mention Beets is beyond me.
    6349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 639835)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope! It's 41 years later, but Austin Powers still has his mojo.


    Is it still working?



    If he has it, it is working.
    Ask Heather Graham, Beyonce Knowles et al.
    6350) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 639834)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, I used the task manager to close all BOINC related processes running.

    Ah, that might explain it. Some of the BOINC processes are designed to monitor that other processes - such as the science applications - are running, and re-start them if they stop when BOINC doesn't expect them to stop!

    Far better to use BOINC's own control interface (File|exit, or right-click and exit from the TaskBar icon) to shut it down: and then use Task Manager just to look and check that all's well. If it's still running maybe it was a service install? In that case, use the services snap-in (control panel, administrative tools), or 'Net stop BOINC' at a command prompt). By all means check again with Task Manager, but if you ever actually have to use it to close anything, reboot the machine to get back to a known, stable state before you do anything else.

    Sorry - remind me to include all that in my instructions next time.


    No problem.
    I believe I did install it as a service rather than for an individual.
    6351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 639829)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope! It's 41 years later, but Austin Powers still has his mojo.
    6352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 639825)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BEER!

    01000010 01000101 01000101 01010010 00100001


    Let us all now pray to the Metal God.
    6353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 639824)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah!

    Lets have an underground movement for Tonto. Lets lobby Congress, yeah, lets march on Capitol Hill....


    No, no, Chris! You must go to Parliament.
    While we're at it, un-ban Toronto, too! :)

    (Beets, I hope Tonto had no hidden references. Toronto, on the other hand ... wait. I do not even know what I am talking about it. I'm free-associating, at no cost to you.)
    6354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 639813)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wasabi, Kimo Sabe?


    Hi Ho Tonto, and away......


    I never understood why me, Tonto, didn't get a mask, too. I mean, why'd the Lone Ranger put me at risk?

    That's all I hear nowadays...Tonto did this, Tonto did that.


    Un-ban TONTO!!! :)
    6355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 639810)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Darn, I thought it was only turtles that couldn't right themselves when on their backs! This darned ice isn't helping, either!"
    6356) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 639789)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I had to quickly replace one laptop with another, I followed the instructions of ... Richard Haselgrove (?) ... given in Sirius B's "Detaching from Project" thread last Friday.
    Things seemed to go smoothly over the weekend.
    Richard had warned against multiple instances of BOINC running.
    So, though I had downloaded BOINC, I did not let it have tasks. BOINC ran from the copied folder instead as it flushed out old WUs. The copied version of BOINC also was not allowed to download more WUs.
    When I could see I had about a day of work left, I temporarily turned off the copied version of BOINC ... turned on the main version (that saves in it's usual place) ... got some workunits ... turned off the main one ... turned the old copied version back on and ... BAM!!! Abort!
    Connected or not? :(


    Note:
    The folder for the copies from the other laptop went straight to the desktop, not where BOINC usually installs.
    Also, I used the task manager to close all BOINC related processes running.
    6357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 639740)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, baby! Ever try human horn?
    6358) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 639735)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I had to quickly replace one laptop with another, I followed the instructions of ... Richard Haselgrove (?) ... given in Sirius B's "Detaching from Project" thread last Friday.
    Things seemed to go smoothly over the weekend.
    Richard had warned against multiple instances of BOINC running.
    So, though I had downloaded BOINC, I did not let it have tasks. BOINC ran from the copied folder instead as it flushed out old WUs. The copied version of BOINC also was not allowed to download more WUs.
    When I could see I had about a day of work left, I temporarily turned off the copied version of BOINC ... turned on the main version (that saves in it's usual place) ... got some workunits ... turned off the main one ... turned the old copied version back on and ... BAM!!! Abort!
    Connected or not? :(
    6359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 639630)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This TV show has been canceled.
    6360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You are all drafted! (Message 639627)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This time I'm moving to Canada...


    You won't like it up here ;)

    I should have been more specific...I meant Quebec.


    I'm moving in with Beets.
    6361) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 639611)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Except this isn't the case here, since there was no quorum formed on any of the WU's at the time of the 221, and they got reissued seconds after the abort command.

    Offhand I'd have to say, it looks like some kind of backend malfunction, perhaps due to the work on distributing the data files storage locations around the backend more.

    Alinator


    Did you look through my recent results list to make this determination?
    Can you simplify the rest of what you said just a little?
    I'm slightly concerned as to whether it is something I did.
    6362) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Nice to see SETI & BOINC on YouTube! (Message 639589)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice to see SETI on YouTube!

    BOINC - Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing

    Dr. David Anderson describes SETI@home, BOINC and Distributed Computing.

    From: Setiweb
    Views: 2,288

    http://www.youtube.com/Setiweb

    Subscribed, linked twice, commented, and rated. (5 Stars)


    Blame ... . Well, you know who.
    6363) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 639588)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's up with a message such as cancelled by project, redundant result no longer needed?!?
    (I'm 98% sure the 25-35 WUs were nowhere near their due date.)
    6364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 639585)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Several people were speaking out about the Taliban over the summer of 2001.
    6365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639179)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    another thread disappears


    for no good


    reason and it


    pisses me off!


    bunch of tards!


    Off limit topic.
    6366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639128)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cut it out.


    Hi Tom. Welcome!

    Aloha! You too.


    You've had breakfast?

    Nine PM here.


    Two hours behind ...


    ... Pacific Standard Time.
    6367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639127)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cut it out.


    Hi Tom. Welcome!

    Aloha! You too.


    You've had breakfast?

    Nine PM here.


    Two hours behind ...
    6368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639126)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ^
    |

    My first post ...


    ... in this thread?
    6369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639125)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ^
    |

    My first post ...
    6370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 639124)
    Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's "faux pas."
    6371) Message boards : Number crunching : Flash Drive (Message 638970)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any luck, Philadelphia?
    (Are you, btw, in the Philly area?)


    I haven't had a chance yet, I was going to do it this morning. Something came up that took that time I was going to try it :(

    I'm hoping I can squeeze some time in this afternoon and try it but that's not looking good either.

    BTW, I grew up in Philly & Lansdale, went to North Penn. I've lived in Phoenix most of the last 28 years --- and it is soooooo hot this summer :(

    It killed my on Sunday to see the Eagles absolutely give that freekin game away, arrrrrhhhhh.


    Post the results of the experiment when you can.
    I went to a college in central PA for my freshmen year. I met several ppl from the Philly area: Byrn Mawr, West Chester and so on.
    6372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW(46) - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & REFURBISHMENT (Message 638937)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the misinterpreters: losing. (Translation: I'm winning.)
    6373) Message boards : Number crunching : Flash Drive (Message 638934)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any luck, Philadelphia?
    (Are you, btw, in the Philly area?)
    6374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638929)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    huh?
    6375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just three words (Message 638633)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    just three nerds
    6376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638625)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    in one hour of post original must it be done
    6377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638624)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    when move ... type you should

    ?Doing You How, OBI-Won

    yoda
    6378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638620)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    when move ... type you should
    6379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638609)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With the work laptop are you logging into a domain or into the computer itself? If you normally log into a domain, you can still get to your PC when you're not connected to the domain, but you may NOT be able to share within a workgroup until you are logged onto the computer. I don;t know that I have ever tried to do that.

    At the login box, click Advanced (More, something like that) button and it should expand the box to add a 3rd drop-down box. You can choose between the domain and the computer there.

    But...your account for the domain may NOT be the account for the computer. The IT desk may have to help in this area. Logging into the computer instead of the domain (and vise-versa) can be confusing at first, but normally the only difference to the user is that 3rd drop-down list on the login page.



    I see at some point, in the login and the list of computers in my workgroup, a -1 appended to the username from login.
    Anyway, I will need to get to sleep soon. I'll check this thread in the morning as well as pester the Help Desk folks.


    I'm not sure what the -1 is, could just be something in the script or a return code of some kind.


    username
    vs.
    username-1
    6380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638602)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With the work laptop are you logging into a domain or into the computer itself? If you normally log into a domain, you can still get to your PC when you're not connected to the domain, but you may NOT be able to share within a workgroup until you are logged onto the computer. I don;t know that I have ever tried to do that.

    At the login box, click Advanced (More, something like that) button and it should expand the box to add a 3rd drop-down box. You can choose between the domain and the computer there.

    But...your account for the domain may NOT be the account for the computer. The IT desk may have to help in this area. Logging into the computer instead of the domain (and vise-versa) can be confusing at first, but normally the only difference to the user is that 3rd drop-down list on the login page.



    I see at some point, in the login and the list of computers in my workgroup, a -1 appended to the username from login.
    Anyway, I will need to get to sleep soon. I'll check this thread in the morning as well as pester the Help Desk folks.
    6381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638593)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I log on to the work laptop, there is an option of whether to use it only as a workstation or not. When at work, I leave it unchecked. At home/coffee shops, etc. ..., it is checked. I think this is what you are asking about, right?
    6382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638574)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then I'm not sure what is going on. Personally, I have never used the wizard, so I don't really know what it asks you to do.

    Another thing to check is, open My Computer, click on the Tools drop-down and select Folder Options. Click on the View tab and make sure the Use Simple File Sharing option is checked. It should be the last item in the list.

    Could also be a firewall problem. Are you using the Windows firewall or a 3rd party firewall?





    Since one is from work, I cannot even tell what firewall is being used; they just assure me it has one. Real helpful , eh?
    6383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638566)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Work laptop:
    Windows XP Professional
    Version 2002
    Service Pack 2

    Personal laptop:
    Windows XP Home Edition
    Version 2002
    Service Pack 2
    6384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : {Please Post}The Strangest Video You have Ever Seen (Message 638562)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, THAT was kid friendly!
    6385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638546)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The workgroup name must match on the two machines. To get to this, right-click on the My Computer icon and select Properties, then click on the Computer Name tab, then click on the Change button.

    Took care of that while using the Wizard on each. Just double-checked. The workgroup name is the same on each, all in caps on each.


    Are you using wireless? With a 3rd party driver setup (LinkSys or Cisco, etc.)? Some of those default setup to an Access point connection instead of an Infrastructure, which prevents sharing.


    Cabled. Not wireless. Linksys.
    6386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638539)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The workgroup name must match on the two machines. To get to this, right-click on the My Computer icon and select Properties, then click on the Computer Name tab, then click on the Change button.

    Took care of that while using the Wizard on each. Just double-checked. The workgroup name is the same on each, all in caps on each.
    6387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 638535)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the cabled router issues.
    When I first set it up, I just wanted to have both connected to the internet.
    I knew at some point I would want to be able to share files between them, but it was not (and is not yet) an urgent issue.
    Last night, I ran the Wizard. I was able to have my personal laptop recognize my work laptop and sees the folders/files I told it to share. But, the work laptop does not always see the personal laptop; or, when it does, it still cannot see which files I've told the personal laptop to share.
    TimeLord gave some assistance. He thinks I need to have an account with the same name and password on each. If I followed his instructions correctly, it did not work.
    The IT Helpdesk at work told me to check the IP of each machine. When logged in at home, the two IPs different only in the last digit. The guy I spoke with told me one other thing I could try would be to type, in DOS on the work laptop, \\\\ip of personal laptop.
    The message I received was: The filename, directory name or volume label syntax is incorrect.

    Any suggestions, folks?
    6388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II point 2 - Closed (Message 638516)
    Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not Mach instead of point? :)
    6389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638489)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pinball Wizard.
    6390) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 638487)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i wonder who was first to sign up,is he or she still crunching?

    Who thinks it was Nez, lol?!
    6391) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 638482)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Part of this gets to the reason of why I have asked.
    If I have set "connect every x days" to a number less than 1, say 0.125 (1/8 of a day, so every three hours) ... then I would expect these things would not still be sitting at 100% in my task tab when I wake up in the morning, since the task was a 2-3 hour WU to crunch. Furthermore, having read a fair amount of what you guys have said about anxious users hammering the update button, I wonder (am concerned) about the frequency of connection I have set up and that to me it looks like I need to tell it to update when I get up in the morning.
    In fact, whatever frequency I have set, 1 day, 0.125 days, 1/24 of a day ... whatever ... I still find plenty of these things at 100% under the task tab if I do not tell it to update.

    What happens if you just leave it alone?

    Well, when I sleep anywhere from 4-8 hours, I am leaving it alone. Similarly when teaching for a few hours in a row. I'd just have to not look at it for a larger number of hours and then see if I've got an even bigger batch of completed WUs showing under the task tab or not.
    6392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 638403)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I'm having Corn on the Cob tonight, woot! YUM

    I'll be over for dinner soon.
    Who's cooking? You or Mrs. Buckingham?

    I can just visualize Sidney Portier ringing the doorbell now...

    lol
    6393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638398)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not at work, but I am also not at home. And I will soon be working. But not at work.


    Are you working?


    Yep.
    6394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 638394)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I'm having Corn on the Cob tonight, woot! YUM

    I'll be over for dinner soon.
    Who's cooking? You or Mrs. Buckingham?
    6395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 638383)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how are the ladies of SETI@Home forums today?
    Has Irish Angel been in here, yet?
    6396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638373)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not at work, but I am also not at home. And I will soon be working. But not at work.
    6397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 638339)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the winner:



    Alright, have at it and post some captions! :)
    6398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638336)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ...a non kid friendly cup of coffee!


    That looks like one hell of an "Irish" coffee!!!

    But anyhow, the cup is too small :(

    I usually use cups this size (don't mind the text on it, it's a clear understatement, I saw even bigger ones :D )


    Forget Pauley (not Pawly) --- the woman in the above pic is welcome at Sarge's ANYtime. :)
    6399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638335)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hookahs are used extensively in the Middle East at many cafes and tea shops for smoking waded balls of Turkish tobacco...any other use is in the mind of the beholder.

    Hookahs are being used, somewhat, in mid-Michigan. My friends from Jordan also use them.
    6400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638301)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Btw: I try to contact a potential frequenter of this coffee (and tea) shop. She's a REAL coffeeholic:



    Who that is escapes me.
    It me who that is escapes.
    6401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638297)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's ... the coffee/tea shop where it's up to someone else to clean up those non-kid friendly pix a few posts back.

    uhm... which ones, please?

    Not yours and I cannot see a problem with DB's latest.

    Do you mean that picture from Alice in Wonderland? That's an illustration from a kids book :)

    Lewis Carroll, besides being an author and a mathematician, was known for some other things, I think.
    Unless that's a hookah in the pic. That's hookAH, not the other hook** that I cannot type, folks!
    6402) Message boards : Number crunching : Flash Drive (Message 638293)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps ... just perhaps ... Richard Haselgrove's comments to me in Sirius B's Detaching from Project thread can be similarly applied to this question? (I had to get rid of one laptop on very short notice and it was replaced by a new one just a few hours after. Richard's posts helped me moved a large cache from the old to the new, by copying the entire BOINC folder onto the flash drive, etc. ... .) Look into his posts there, wait for comments from others. Maybe this is a start.


    Thanks Sarge, I'll give that a go.

    I'm 'wondering' if Boinc knows I have it already on my 'C' drive and therefore won't allow me to add it again on another drive, even though it's a removable.


    I think the concern would be moving things back and forth multiple times, having multiples instances of BOINC Manager open and maybe two different machines working on the same WU. Not that I know the consequences. I'd intended to ask, so now I've thrown those questions out into the ether.
    6403) Message boards : Number crunching : Flash Drive (Message 638285)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps ... just perhaps ... Richard Haselgrove's comments to me in Sirius B's Detaching from Project thread can be similarly applied to this question? (I had to get rid of one laptop on very short notice and it was replaced by a new one just a few hours after. Richard's posts helped me moved a large cache from the old to the new, by copying the entire BOINC folder onto the flash drive, etc. ... .) Look into his posts there, wait for comments from others. Maybe this is a start.
    6404) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 638270)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I understand perfectly well why it is designed the way it is, and it made sense at the time...

    The upload server knows that a file has been uploaded, but it doesn't know what it is or how long it took etc. If the report is uploaded to the upload server at the same time, then the master database could poll the upload server for results and reports at *its* leisure, instead of having to respond and deal with whatever demand is put onto it. Traffic then remains internal and steadier.

    I vote that this would improve efficiency and reduce internet bandwidth requirements as the report and file upload could be part of the same tcp session, and there wouldn't be a million users hammering the update button to make sure their results are up to date, only to get more work and current credit status. I don't think users are as anxious to make sure their caches contain the maximum amount at all times!

    Andy.


    Part of this gets to the reason of why I have asked.
    If I have set "connect every x days" to a number less than 1, say 0.125 (1/8 of a day, so every three hours) ... then I would expect these things would not still be sitting at 100% in my task tab when I wake up in the morning, since the task was a 2-3 hour WU to crunch. Furthermore, having read a fair amount of what you guys have said about anxious users hammering the update button, I wonder (am concerned) about the frequency of connection I have set up and that to me it looks like I need to tell it to update when I get up in the morning.
    In fact, whatever frequency I have set, 1 day, 0.125 days, 1/24 of a day ... whatever ... I still find plenty of these things at 100% under the task tab if I do not tell it to update.
    6405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Water Fluoridation...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 638259)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's my dentures?
    6406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638257)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've received the following submission in the "Design a Sign for Sarge's" contest:



    Any other submissions?
    6407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638117)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's ... the coffee/tea shop where it's up to someone else to clean up those non-kid friendly pix a few posts back.

    uhm... which ones, please?

    Not yours and I cannot see a problem with DB's latest.
    6408) Message boards : Number crunching : Weird: upload vs. update (Message 638111)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I wake up in the morning or return to look at the computer after teaching a few hours, I'll see WUs ready to report under the task tab. Looking under the messages tab, it claims the very same WUs were already uploaded ... minutes to hours beforehand.
    What gives?
    6409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638103)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I like Jim Carey , However the movie 23 I think it came with a sublimanal message of SLEEP close to the end myself. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! But I did like it. I like who done it's :)


    It might be entirely my fault. I find it hard to take Jim Carey in a serious movie, and this movie was indeed very serious and included adult themes. Unfortunately, and to my wifes chagrin, I had it figured out about half way into the movie. :/

    EDIT: Fixed various spellings.


    Have you seen him in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"?
    6410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638102)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did you see what Sarge sent me?

    He nicked the imitation Cafe's sign for redesign and manufacture, and between us (mainly with Es's physics support) we made this one.

    What do you think?




    "Did I do that?"
    6411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 638101)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Good morning ladies :)


    very refreshing indeed.

    But i miss Stacey Jane and Mac.


    I'm sure Stacey Jane will visit from time to time.
    6412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CHECK YOUR COMPUTERS SETI IS WORKING AGAIN (Message 638100)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have not run into deadline problems either, as far as I know. I am waiting for further explanation. I have this sense that, if you run few projects, then the BOINC Manager will make sure you do not download something to close to the deadline ... knowing your settings for how often to connect and how much you've cached. Any truth to this? If not, could it be programmed that way?
    6413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 638006)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's ... the coffee/tea shop where it's up to someone else to clean up those non-kid friendly pix a few posts back.
    6414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 638005)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great movie!
    6415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 638003)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I only talk about coffee. (And tea.)
    6416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637987)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woot!


    Fo shizzle :)


    Get bizzle!
    6417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 637986)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge's ... the coffee/tea shop lacking in willful misinterpretations (and decaf).
    6418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 637982)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here at Sarge's, you can show appreciation for the signs without being called a malcontent. We'll let you know when and if this franchise actually has signs. In the meantime ... CAFFEINE!!!
    6419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637981)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woot!
    6420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637977)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    "Let's all talk to Dr. Zoidberg. Right!"
    6421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 637976)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since Tiare's a mod, I'm sure she must already know about Es99 being indisposed and why.
    6422) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Robot Rides: Fun? (Message 637834)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No helmet?
    How do we know it's a robot and not just something like an amusement park ride?
    6423) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 637832)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's see if in a couple of days we can collate the best info here:
      Places new crunchers can be directed to for the simplest possible explanations.
      Our advice to each other for how to help.


    Sound like a plan?

    6424) Message boards : Number crunching : Lost work!! (Message 637827)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I turned my laptop off several days ago to leave home. when I turned it back on today, the3 work was gone. My stats show many wu in progress but there is nothing on my Boinc Mgr. What happened? I'm a non-technie ultimate. Linda

    Is it possible you did not turn it off as intended and it kept on going/crunching?
    6425) Message boards : Number crunching : So, where is your RAC now (Message 637825)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now at around 808 and no end in sight, yet, as to how much further it will go up.
    6426) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : BBC's Stone Age Columbus (Message 637816)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I post for those who haven't heard of some of the topics yet.

    Good point!
    6427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 637807)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe we should have spent a little more time in the simulator... ;)

    Good one, as have been many of the others.
    6428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637802)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woody is here.
    6429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 637745)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    <-------- RAC


    6430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 637671)
    Posted 10 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tonight on Coast to Coast AM airing at 1am EST :

    Sat 09.08 >>
    First Hour: Researcher Alan Turnbull will talk about some of the world's Secret Bases. Then, writer and producer Jack Cashill will discuss how the 1993 and 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center are directly related to TWA flight 800 and how the template for future attacks lives on in spite of Homeland Security.

    Live stream courtesy of KFI 640AM Los Angeles

    Coast to Coast AM affiliates in the USA, Canada and XM Satellite radio



    Ooooo! Super secret bases oh my! Get the popcorn.


    Ya know Robert..cynicism and sarcasm can be quite refreshing at times.....lol

    Although....it's not so much the sarcasm....


    I gots yer cynicism and sarcasm right heyerre, yeah! :)
    6431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637649)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hmmm?
    6432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637648)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We could always do with more coffee grinders in all our fine, honorable establishments.
    6433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637635)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Make one for the Sarge's franchise! :)
    6434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : $20 cure for HIV, Cancer, and more? (Message 637602)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Link us Sarge!

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41785
    6435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : $20 cure for HIV, Cancer, and more? (Message 637595)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I altered one of my threads so that the discussion can move there if you guys like.
    6436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 637576)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post to change thread title.
    Sometimes, what you learn might later help you do a better job crunching for BOINC or vice versa.
    6437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : $20 cure for HIV, Cancer, and more? (Message 637567)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What about S cables, Labbie?
    Beets, want to start your thread on this issue?
    6438) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : BBC's Stone Age Columbus (Message 637546)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I liked the video, MrG.
    I did learn some stuff I did not know.
    But, I will say that the discussion has been public for at least a few years. Check some back issues of Discover magazine, for example.
    6439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ET is at work (Message 637505)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That response was a little ambiguous, since it referred to both decreasing and increasing that number.
    The first is correct: set the number regarding how often to connect to the server to a lower number. This means, in turn, that the contact is more frequent.

    It means that you promise to allow BOINC to attempt to contact servers at least this often. BOINC will attempt to contact servers as needed if it is allowed to.

    No denying that.
    Just clarifying what gets decreased and what gets increased. (Inverse variation going on here.)
    6440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 637500)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Sarge and Labbie,

    I run Vista and am going to unhide my computer now.


    Re-hide it after Labbie's seen it and helped! :)
    6441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ET is at work (Message 637490)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That response was a little ambiguous, since it referred to both decreasing and increasing that number.
    The first is correct: set the number regarding how often to connect to the server to a lower number. This means, in turn, that the contact is more frequent.
    6442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 637484)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone know if the optimizer works with the new version of BOINC/SETI, yet?

    http://lunatics.at/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=12.


    Version 5.10.20?
    I'm using it on mine, but I do not know if they've got something compatible for each type of WU. Need help finding a thread in NC so we can track down this info?
    6443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637478)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    msattler, I'm still wishing you'd offer to Eric your services as a mod.
    6444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637437)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Give us a warning before you post such Youtube links again! :)
    6445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637436)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You really need to read the Number Crunching forum, please.
    Did this really need three different threads?

    Sarge, please stop chastising new participants. You are the last one to talk when it comes to creating new threads.

    Misfit, let's go look back at your posts from 2-3 years ago and see how YOU talked to newbies.
    And of course someone is going to create multiple threads when they get immediately hidden for no good reason anyway. Until they figure out your ways and you cannot wind them up anymore.
    Last, Irish Angel's responses to all this today and over the next few days will speak volumes.
    Irish Angel, once again, welcome to the Cafe and I am glad that I and some others were able to provide you some assistance/explanation..
    6446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637432)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My point was I like the sign. No more. No less.
    6447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 637431)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulations Sargeâ„¢ for being UOTD nowhere!!

    That's as good as being UOTD somewhere...

    Soon to be EVERYwhere! :)
    wAtch OUt! :)
    6448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 637356)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    boat?
    6449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637297)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're welcome.
    6450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637293)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because of problems with servers, etc. ... .
    If you have it set to a quarter day, you'll soon run out of work when there are server problems. And you'll then either get work at a very slow trickle or not at all until the server problems are solved.
    6451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637291)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great. Those signs should be at all Rocky's franchises. :)


    Let's place an order for one then....


    How much do you think they cost?
    Can we have a special one for the Sarge's SUPER STRONG Coffee & Tea Joint as well.


    Nope.

    Rocky ones are a special.

    Sarge ones are a new line yet to be costed.



    Hmmm.
    Yes, I am given to understand that Rocky was quite special.
    6452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637283)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great. Those signs should be at all Rocky's franchises. :)


    Let's place an order for one then....


    How much do you think they cost?
    Can we have a special one for the Sarge's SUPER STRONG Coffee & Tea Joint as well.
    6453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637276)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On the slower of my two computers, it seems to just download less WUs.
    6454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Fashion Police...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 637274)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, boys and girls ... errr, girls ... don't dress like the young lady in the pic. Particularly if you want to fly on that plane with your parents to Disney Land, where you can see "High School Musical."


    Ooh, have you heard about that scandal? Let's just call it a "lack" of fashion on the female lead's part.

    Can't discuss it here, not kid friendly.


    Yep, I heard.
    Perhaps Dominique could discuss it in a kid-friendly way.
    6455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 637268)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Great. Those signs should be at all Rocky's franchises. :)
    6456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Fashion Police...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 637262)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW, eat your fruits, kids, as part of a balanced diet.
    6457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Fashion Police...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 637261)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, boys and girls ... errr, girls ... don't dress like the young lady in the pic. Particularly if you want to fly on that plane with your parents to Disney Land, where you can see "High School Musical."
    6458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Fashion Police...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 637260)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The "Fashion Police" at Southwest Airlines


    Not "KID FRIENDLY" according to Southwest's Fashion Police.

    Now where have I heard that phrase before? Hmmm....


    Thanks, Dominique, for doing so much for the kids here on SETI Cafe. :)
    6459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637257)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey hold on guys.

    It's been standard procedure round these parts to have some sort of cache of workunits, usually 3 days or so, to allow for these unplanned outages. Nothing new.


    Thanks Chris, for making my point. :)
    6460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637224)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, Mike, some threads in Number Crunching will also help people find out how to have several WUs waiting in the background for them so they can get through the rough times like what Matt described in Technical News.
    6461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 637221)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brush your teeth with fluoridated tooth paste then have some super strong coffee.
    6462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : wHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ? (Message 637220)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You really need to read the Number Crunching forum, please.
    Did this really need three different threads?
    6463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HEY MY SETI IS BACK UP ! (Message 637022)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then more people should be reading in the Number Crunching forum.
    I've got plenty of work.
    6464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 636948)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I want some of that coffee like Howard Johnson's serves. The stuff that makes ******* look like a sedative...

    The stuff served here is better than anything you'll find at Howard Johnson's. No need to discuss any illegal substances.
    6465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : robert kinkead is UOTD @ SETI - Sept 08 2007 (Message 636946)
    Posted 9 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way to go, Robert!
    6466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Water Fluoridation...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 636872)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you lived in at least two areas, one where the water is fluoridated and one where it is not?
    6467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Water Fluoridation...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 636759)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Drink fluoride free water, and watch your teeth drop out when you are 100!

    You mean 30.
    6468) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 636757)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was that objective?
    6469) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 636748)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Objective or objectionable?
    6470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ET is at work (Message 636563)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've got lots to crunch! :)
    6471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Water Fluoridation...It's for the KIDS don'tcha know... (Message 636550)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fluoride is good for your teeth. It helps you get less cavities.
    Brush your teeth, all you kids reading! :)
    6472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 636546)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we established before, though, that DB does not eat bacon?
    6473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 636189)
    Posted 8 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WOOT!

    Word.
    6474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 635994)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some people are happier in real life. :)
    6475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 635973)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rocky!!! :)
    6476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 635701)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm confused.
    6477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 635681)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hmmm
    6478) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 635576)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Which app will be needed for this?
    6479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 635351)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ahem! Cough ... edit ... cough!
    6480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 635321)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's the pic? I'm really jones'n to caption something.

    Jones'n? That's so 1982. The reach of Thorstein Veblen is longer than once thought.
    6481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 635319)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I line up this kick just right he'll go down life a ton of lard ..hehehe

    OK, Monday, you win.


    Give us a pic, Monday.

    Ooo... Sorry John and Jon I didn't mean to win I just wanted to play. I don't have a photo to post. So anyone who has please feel free to jump in.


    Find a funny one online. :)
    6482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 635294)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you, thank you, thank you! :)
    6483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 634992)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did he post something objective? :)
    6484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sarge (TM) is UOTD nowhere (Message 634986)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just so y'all know that.
    Thanks for your support. :)
    6485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 634984)
    Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rut roh!
    It might be time to revive the "Where's Beets?" thread!
    6486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634953)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone else noticed Labor Day is over?

    Yes...I had to stay longer at work.

    Name some songs played today.
    6487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 634951)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's it going, Beets?
    6488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 634942)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Headsets do NOT have to be USB. I do old school; a headset with both things and 1/4 inch jacks.
    2) If you pay for SkypeIn, you can choose a phone number in another country. You could choose a UK or USA number for example, so your non-Skype friends can call you on Skype from the UK or the USA and not pay a lot. You could even make it a local call for some of them! :)
    6489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 634929)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice to see this refuge reinstated. And nice to see the ladies well.

    Unfortunately, one is missing temporarily: Es99. At least I miss to read her.


    Ahem.
    6490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634923)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone else noticed Labor Day is over?
    6491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 634871)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice, Logan.
    6492) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeologists discover ancient beehives (Message 634860)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More about bees: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070906/sc_nm/bees_virus_dc;_ylt=AqIdBmWzbBgAiI8xfzlQujZxieAA.
    6493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 634839)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we thinking happy thoughts while drinking our super strong coffee or tea? :)
    6494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! II - CLOSED (Message 634775)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "This gives Sisyphus new meaning."
    6495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why are.. (Message 634670)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And yet, at times, one can only be harrassed as one will let one's self be harrassed. If you let it roll off of your shoulders, the aggressor has no hold.
    This is virtual reality, my friends, it can only do to you what you let it.

    And the kitties say.......crunch well, and let the rest pass.


    Well said, msattler.
    6496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634571)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To those discussing bans, particularly my fellow members of "The 30":
    If you are upset by recent events, or still upset about kenzieB's ban and claim she will never return, please, try to keep your "cool" for as long as possible. "30," I have posted something specifically for all of you elsewhere.
    Again ... keep your cool. No more bans, please.
    6497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 634553)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Will this picture remain?

    No...It's a fishing lure.

    You mean, it's not kid-friendly?


    Of course it's not kid-friendly! You've got a gummy worm, impaled on a hook and in flames! What a senseless waste of yummy candy! The kids are in shock! ;)

    It Must Go!

    "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers"


    Maybe Rush will red-X it?
    6498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634544)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now I see my RAC. :(
    Look away, Jeffrey!
    6499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634543)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG, these latest captions are great!
    6500) Message boards : Number crunching : My units keep downloading. (Message 634523)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, two things.
    First, I meant the situation of needing to detach one computer because of an almost spur-of-the-moment, beyond one's control decision. The, almost immediately thereafter attaching a new computer to the project.
    Second, if I understood the stuff towards the end of your post correctly, then I do not think that generally applies to me as the computer is generally crunching 24 hours a day.
    ?
    6501) Message boards : Number crunching : My units keep downloading. (Message 634446)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Erhh... I'm sorry for these silly questions...

    Thanks anyway ;)


    the only "silly" question is the one that you don't ask. There's probably 100 other people wondering about the same thing.

    Crunch-on!


    I think you know, Nico, a fair amount than you did before.
    Again, when there is work for you to download, with that cache set to 10, you'll get LOTS of WUs and you can crunch happily for sometime.
    In fact, let's say the servers go down or have no work to send for 2 days. At the end of those 2 days, you'll still have about 8 days of work left, then you'll start getting new work again.
    People that don't know they can set the cache that way could find themselves with no work, or close to it, throughout those entire 2 days.
    Am I right, guys?

    Two or three days is enough to meet that objective. If you go as high as 10 days, you can find yourself in all sorts of trouble if you have to re-allocate the machine at short notice - as you yourself have recently found, in another thread.


    True, but ... I think this is a rare situation?
    6502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634436)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...dinner is served.

    Nice! And it would have gone well with the last one as well.
    6503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 634433)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting.
    Well, it made me think of two possibilities.
    One that is reminiscent of TfF's "Sowing the Seeds of Love."
    The other would be ... heavier.
    6504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 634425)
    Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think I'd like to put the vocals to this one, Dan. May I attempt it?
    6505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 634423)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bouncy
    6506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634421)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You got two instant responses. :)
    I think you need gnotify.exe
    6507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 634411)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Staind:Falling
    From LyricWiki

    This song appears on the album "Chapter V (2005)" by Staind
    You in your shell
    are you waiting for someone to rescue you
    from yourself.
    Don't be disappointed when no one comes.

    Don't blame me you didn't get it [3x]

    [Chorus]
    I already told you, that falling is easy its getting back up that becomes the problem,
    becomes the problem
    and if you don't believe you can find a way out you become the problem,
    become the problem.

    You, all alone,
    are you waiting for someone to make you whole?
    Can't you see
    aren't you tired of this dysfunctional routine.

    Don't blame me you didn't get it [3x]

    [Chorus]

    [Chorus]

    falling is easy its getting back up that becomes the problem,
    becomes the problem
    and if you believe you can find a way out then you solve the problem,
    you solve your problem.
    6508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 634405)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fun, fun, fun!
    Happy thoughts!
    :)
    6509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634402)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    yer a bike?



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner

    I KNEW IT!~



    Actually, I am "Know One". I know who Number 4 is. ;)


    If you really think you do, e-mail me.
    Even then, I am not answering it.
    It's that person's choice.
    Just curious what ya know, lol.


    But if I told you, I would have to kill you! LOL


    As if I don't know. :P
    6510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634385)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    yer a bike?



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner

    I KNEW IT!~



    Actually, I am "Know One". I know who Number 4 is. ;)


    If you really think you do, e-mail me.
    Even then, I am not answering it.
    It's that person's choice.
    Just curious what ya know, lol.
    6511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634368)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Leigenkugel's! (With an umi over the u?)
    6512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634367)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Leigenkugel's! (With an umi over the u?)
    6513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 634362)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's drink coffee and be happy!
    6514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634357)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am one of the 30! Number 2.72 to be exact!

    Sorry!! Number 2.7236, to be exact. Oops.

    It's true, Thorin. I, the primary organizer, recruited him before I recruited you and 5 of 30. Unfortunately, know one knows who 4 of 30 is and probably never will.

    OK, I was kidding. I knew Rush would not have discussed it with us in our original, think tank incarnation.
    6515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634356)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, this one looked ok.
    I recognized, sort of, the word for enough (sufficiently close to sufficient, lol).
    But I had no idea if "foam" got translated correctly.
    6516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 634350)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Not enough foam.


    hat's the depth of foam we like here, Mike

    More than that and we suspect the hostelry is short changing us on the liquid, and the law lays down how foamy the pint should be. At the bottom of the foam is a 1 pint (568 cc) mark the liquid must reach by law


    I know that John, Chris told me that.

    But we germans dont like beer with not enough foam.


    And now it is time for another terrible AltaVista Babelfish translation!

    Wie wissen Sie, wann ein Bier genügend Schaumgummi hat?


    (How know you, when one/a Beer enough (foam?) has?)
    6517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634347)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am one of the 30! Number 2.72 to be exact!

    Sorry!! Number 2.7236, to be exact. Oops.

    It's true, Thorin. I, the primary organizer, recruited him before I recruited you and 5 of 30. Unfortunately, know one knows who 4 of 30 is and probably never will.
    6518) Message boards : Number crunching : Detaching From Project (Message 634344)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I just set to NNT and I followed most of what Richard said in 1 or 2 takes, so I *might* be able to pull this off Friday morning. Hopefully I can still locate this thread that morning! :)
    6519) Message boards : Number crunching : need more work to down load (Message 634340)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are the BOINC settings on both your PCs the same?
    [Joe beat me to the question.]
    6520) Message boards : Number crunching : My units keep downloading. (Message 634336)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Erhh... I'm sorry for these silly questions...

    Thanks anyway ;)


    the only "silly" question is the one that you don't ask. There's probably 100 other people wondering about the same thing.

    Crunch-on!


    I think you know, Nico, a fair amount than you did before.
    Again, when there is work for you to download, with that cache set to 10, you'll get LOTS of WUs and you can crunch happily for sometime.
    In fact, let's say the servers go down or have no work to send for 2 days. At the end of those 2 days, you'll still have about 8 days of work left, then you'll start getting new work again.
    People that don't know they can set the cache that way could find themselves with no work, or close to it, throughout those entire 2 days.
    Am I right, guys?
    6521) Message boards : Number crunching : Detaching From Project (Message 634332)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, I have a question that is semi-related, so does it make sense to make another thread by me? Let me try the question here.
    I have to detach a computer from the project on Friday morning. Split moment decision.
    Can I move my WUs in the large 10 day cache to another computer I have that is still attached to the project?!?
    I'm also willing to bet I will be told no, but I just had to ask.


    It can be done, but isn't worth the effort. Just make sure you abort & report any WUs that you haven't crunched before you detach. This will ensure they are resent immediately to other crunchers instead of having to wait for the deadline.


    That was the first thing I thought of, but it sounds to me like I am doing something "crappy." Meaning, was I greedy by setting the cache to 10 days, not anticipating that computer would have to be detached, to be followed soon after by attaching yet another?

    You said it would not be worth the effort. Well, what would it entail? If you guys can make the steps pretty clear, I could then determine for myself if it is worth the time/effort involved.

    Thanks!
    6522) Message boards : Number crunching : Detaching From Project (Message 634307)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know, I have a question that is semi-related, so does it make sense to make another thread by me? Let me try the question here.
    I have to detach a computer from the project on Friday morning. Split moment decision.
    Can I move my WUs in the large 10 day cache to another computer I have that is still attached to the project?!?
    I'm also willing to bet I will be told no, but I just had to ask.
    6523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634304)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    But ... but ... Champ was admin bashing with that quote?!?


    I don't think so. And besides: Funny is Funny. :)


    Imma red-X 'em! Imma red-X 'em! Watch and see! I'll do it. Imma really do it!!!
    6524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 634302)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Taquiza is approximate to the correct spelling. I know which he means and I tried one or two about 1-1.5 months ago, in the company of a lovely young lady.
    6525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634301)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't you know,
    there's a place you can go?
    A place you gathered
    before the automod was a term you knew or mattered.
    A place
    where everybody knows your name,
    and it doesn't take 1000 deletions
    to gain some fame?
    6526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What is your favourite picture and where is it from? (Message 634276)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chloddia 'n benbaladr ddisgwyl at d chan Seren Rhyfeloedd

    Yes, I know Seinfeld doesn't like Newman and he gave Elaine a Claddagh ring.
    6527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The loss of a cruncher..... (Message 634270)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Many times, it wasn't even red-X'd.
    6528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634028)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL You did yourselves proud with this one!

    Many of these had me gigling to outright belly-larrfing!


    A special mention goes to Es for "Tories try for softer more caring image as new London Mayor candidate is announced." and to Jon (nonreid) for "Hey, mate! Can you spare some moisturizer?.

    But the winner is....

    <trumpets herald> Da Da Da Da DaDaaaaaaaah!


    Champ, with "Eric has found more than a signal!"


    Congratulations, Champ!


    It's your turn to give us a picture. :))




    But ... but ... Champ was admin bashing with that quote?!?
    6529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 634018)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Wanna find out if we can make a hybrid?"
    6530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 633863)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eric has found more than a signal!

    No admin bashing. :)
    6531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 9000 th Post - wOOt (Message 633776)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    c0ngr4tul4t10ns or c0nd0l3nc3s t0 R1ch4rd on 9o0o, of+En c0nfus1ng, p0s+5. :)
    6532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 9000 th Post - wOOt (Message 633771)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why? Becuz u sez so?
    6533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 9000 th Post - wOOt (Message 633752)
    Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It'll take another 9000 posts to figure out what Richard is talking about anyway....lol

    OMG! LOL!!!
    6534) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633657)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    John, well, the PMs weren't available back then.
    It probably was someone saw the tag by your post, knew your addy, and e-mailed you.
    Strange that Eric did not send e-mails.

    I'm glad you and I are able to discuss things.

    ( P.S. - get back into the Brain Busters thread, man! :) )
    6535) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633638)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then please present your reasons, with evidence, again, please. Because I do not remember a full-blown proof that that's the main cause of all our problems.

    You can use the search function as well as I can. I'm not reposting all that again. Start with the comment when cRunchy seemed incredulous that red x'ers would complain about moderation, when Kenzie got axed.

    Most times I try searching here, I get an error message. Sometimes googling it works. Sometimes.

    Anyway, a caveat to my previous post. I do not recall how I came to my understanding that it was automatic.
    I also recall precisely who followed me into those threads and posted in them. Maybe they red-X'd me that day. Funny, we managed to get past our misconceptions of each other and our differences of opinion.
    6536) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633636)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]As I have reminded people recently, I was autobanned for excessive thread creation September 26, 2006 --- the day the BOTD debate boiled over and Matt L. asked us if the Cafe needed to die. (After seeing that logic and offering pros and cons no one else had, or just saying aye or nay to certain points, was futile, I tried to inject humor into the Cafe, made a lot of threads to do so and ... bam ... banned.)

    Funny, you say: "Oh, and I have difference of opinion with you about all big problems here being merely over difference of opinion," and yet, here was a difference of opinion that resulted in your being banned.

    I am saying I sense that OVERALL, less of it has to do with differences of opinions than to do with something else. More below about my ban.

    Not because you posted an overt threat, not because you posted porn, but because it was someone's opinion that your transgression was sufficient to ban you. 100 bucks says there were a bunch of red x's that day: "Sarge is creating too many threads!! Sarge is creating too many threads!!"

    Maybe there were, I have no way of knowing. It'd be pure speculation on both our parts, would it not? Besides, it is my understanding that it was done automatically. Apparently a script was set up to watch for excessive thread creation, after the actions of some long gone poster I have never seen. WordWeaver or something like that?
    6537) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633631)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush and his blame the red-X again? Why is it the red-X's fault? Becuz u sez so?

    The reasons have been presented to you. Did you wish to present an argument?


    Then please present your reasons, with evidence, again, please. Because I do not remember a full-blown proof that that's the main cause of all our problems.

    Say what you will about Siran, folks, but the fact that he refused his "auto"mod appointment within days showed integrity.

    Integrity would have been refusing it instantly. Not playing with it a while until what was already obvious became hideously, painfully, obvious.

    My understanding was that he had not been posting, never used mod powers, and when he saw the e-mail from Eric, he came back, posted something along the lines of "What the heck? I'm a mod now?!?" (Or, he never saw the mail, posted, looked at his post and saw the mod tag.) Immediately, people ganged up on him, primarily folks from SETI.USA whom I had hardly seen post in the Cafe. Within about a day, Siran's tag was gone. Again, it is my understanding that he never took any actions as a moderator.
    6538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633626)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, didn't know you were either bald or shaved it all off.
    Try for the Capt. Jean Luc Picard look, ,then. :)
    6539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 633624)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closed.
    Thanks. (Red-X'ing this will not be used. It was a bad idea to let that become a precedent for requesting the closing of a thread. Why? Well, becuz I sez so?)
    6540) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633618)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uhhh ... huh?!?
    Folks, are we reading the same post of Eric's here?!?
    Wasn't he talking about meta-moderation? The idea where randomly selected posts that a randomly selected mod has modded can then be reviewed by randomly selected posters to see if we think the post has been justifiably hidden?
    If so, again I ask Eric where this proposal stands. Is it still likely to happen?
    Oh ... and if you want someone capable with PHP, Buga1 of Calm Chaos might be of assistance if he has time and I think khe'd be more trustworthy than some others.
    Or have I misunderstood or overlook something here?
    If not, then please read more closely. (Ducking and running, lol.)

    There are some problems with meta moderation.

    1) Underage viewing of some of the posts that were deemed not kid friendly.
    2) Context. Sometimes an individual post may seem innocuous, but in the context of the other posts that were deleted the problem can be seen.

    #2 can be worked around somehow. #1 is probably a show stopper.


    Yes, John, there are things to consider. I think you made better points when you posted soon after Eric mentioned the idea. I also PMd from him regarding the pros and cons I saw, but never received a response. (I guess the one or two responses I received from him in June or so is about all I can expect.)

    #1: there's no questions about it and what problems you foresee, I do not know.
    Here's one I shared with Eric: if the idea is implemented, are we going to know who's post was hidden?; who hid it? THAT could lead to meta-moderation retaliations. Such info should be hidden. Even then, sometimes you can just tell who posted what and make a reasonable guess who hid it. Round and round we go, eh?
    6541) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633614)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think anyone ever asked for rules. They just asked for some decent moderators that actually would respond to some of the extreme things that used to be posted on these forums.

    Heh. And "moderators" is somehow different than "rules?"

    But regardless, the problem has never been the "extreme things," (e.g. porn, overt threats, et cetera) because there are rational reasons those things aren't appropriate here. The problem has always been the differences of opinion as denounced by those that stoop to using the red x.


    Rush and his blame the red-X again? Why is it the red-X's fault? Becuz u sez so?
    Oh, and I have difference of opinion with you about all big problems here being merely over difference of opinion. LOL.

    However..the admin don't really want to be dealing with it so tried to automate the mod appointment system which didn't actually take into account people skills or mental stability when it appointed the automods.

    Any further automation of the mod process will only compound this problem.

    Yep.


    We really still have some people that believe automods was truly automated?!? Please, Eric, step forward and tell us if it really was. C'mon. How incredibly coincidental was it that some of the ppl (who are either trouble makers or perceived as such, on both perceived sides to the issue lasting well over a YEAR) were made mods? Say what you will about Siran, folks, but the fact that he refused his "auto"mod appointment within days showed integrity. And, please, for the love of God or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, don't you EVER think of "auto"modding me, Eric. :)

    Michael Buckingham and Knightmare spring to mind as I must say the boards were better with them as mods then they have been before or since.

    They quit because they, by their own admission, couldn't handle it. That isn't a recipe for success.

    Couldn't handle which part of it? Hmmm? Besides, I don't think "couldn't handle it" is quite the right term to use. However, it is unfortunately close enough, they quit and we're left with what we are left with.
    6542) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633609)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uhhh ... huh?!?
    Folks, are we reading the same post of Eric's here?!?
    Wasn't he talking about meta-moderation? The idea where randomly selected posts that a randomly selected mod has modded can then be reviewed by randomly selected posters to see if we think the post has been justifiably hidden?
    If so, again I ask Eric where this proposal stands. Is it still likely to happen?
    Oh ... and if you want someone capable with PHP, Buga1 of Calm Chaos might be of assistance if he has time and I think khe'd be more trustworthy than some others.
    Or have I misunderstood or overlook something here?
    If not, then please read more closely. (Ducking and running, lol.)

    I was merely responding to the quoted section that Richard posted.

    So, who was closer to understanding Eric's post? (Made July 17, 2007, if I remember correctly?)
    6543) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633607)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Master Qui-Gon, I think you should review some very explanatory e-mails I sent you.

    I read them. Do you still have me blocked?



    I do here. You still have the avenue of responding via e-mail, if you choose, for the time being.
    6544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 633605)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've already heard about FSM.
    6545) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633527)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    But is it only my misinterpretation of moderation actions that I see the posts of a very limited number of posters are watched much closer than the posts of all other posters in the Cafe SETI?


    No.


    Er?? I got an email from Qui-Gon just the other day saying that you were all doing exactly that. He said that the 30 were being watched extra closely. So either you or Qui-Gon are lying about this.

    Es99,
    That is not what I said. And the difference is significant. My statement to you was, "Oh Esme, You and the rest of the Gang of 30 have been causing so much trouble that it is only natural we should keep an eye on you. Here's some advice for you: Step one: Post all you like without harassing other posters, including the moderation team, or breaking other rules of posting. No other steps are necessary." Please don't misrepresent what I said. You are not being watched extra closely, you are being watched in light of the fact that many of you have a history of causing trouble. But we also watch everyone else who posts, and of course that includes anyone whose posts are Red-X'ed.


    Master Qui-Gon, I think you should review some very explanatory e-mails I sent you.
    6546) Message boards : Politics : Feedback on Moderation Policy (Message 633525)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    MODERATION POLICY

    from Eric: ". . . We could even extend it to having posting points such that people who consistently get moderated down would be allowed fewer posts per day."



    The Following is 'Specifically being Addressed to Dr. Eric Korpela's ATTENTION' . . .


    Well - IF this is to become a 'Rule' (per se) - then the Moderation of Threads / COmments shall have to looked @ 'very closely' . . . afterall - when a MODerator Moderates,

    (Deletes / Hides / Locks) Threads / Comments - especially as in the Specific Case of a Moderator that Posted in 'said' Thread - certain "breaking of the Moderation Rules" -

    then this is NOT a Good Policy - especially since the 'likelihood of a sort-of-agenda' comes to mind - in which a Particular MOD (or a group of MOD's) could set the ball in

    motion for 'dismissal' or 'elimination' of Posting @ All - simply by their playing 'unfair' in the Forums . . . and i have Very Specific Details readily available

    when You may deem it necessary to peruse said Informations - though it is quite the 'Complex' of Issues - in regards to that which i speak - i Shall take some of my 'Precious Time'

    and work with You on this Specific Matter and provide You Said Documents / Records Sir . . . Please feel free to Contact me in the usual context - and we can discuss this Matter

    in Private.


    With Due Respect, and Thanking You for Your Time & Consideration,


    Richard W Lubrich Jr (AKA leonardo, nobody & watCh out! @ SETI/BOINC since February 29, 2000)


    I would say that the idea of limiting a posters who get modded a lot is an appalling idea considering the way we have seen the moderation guidelines applied in the last few months. I think this would be away for those moderators who bear personal grudges to bring in permanent bans through the back door.

    THIS SECTION REMOVED

    If this posting limit rule were bought in, this injustice would go towards my posting score. Along with the many other posts that have been deemed (incorrectly) as 'flame bait' or 'off topic' or were deleted in retaliation for red X complaints made against a moderator. Considering the excuses used to delete posts of posters the moderators do not like, I think this system would lead to further injustices and allow further abuse of moderator powers to occur.


    Uhhh ... huh?!?
    Folks, are we reading the same post of Eric's here?!?
    Wasn't he talking about meta-moderation? The idea where randomly selected posts that a randomly selected mod has modded can then be reviewed by randomly selected posters to see if we think the post has been justifiably hidden?
    If so, again I ask Eric where this proposal stands. Is it still likely to happen?
    Oh ... and if you want someone capable with PHP, Buga1 of Calm Chaos might be of assistance if he has time and I think khe'd be more trustworthy than some others.
    Or have I misunderstood or overlook something here?
    If not, then please read more closely. (Ducking and running, lol.)
    6547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 633507)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Edward's last words before being attacked by the alien --- "No, Mom, it's a statue. It's not real. Look, I'll stand within 5 feet of it. Nothing will happen. Trust me, I'll be o.k."
    6548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 633504)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't wanna see anybody's, or nobody's, noodle. :P
    6549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633501)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - got some coffee right here, yeah! (Imitating ID$4, "You got your victory dance?" "I got it right heeerrreee, yeeeahh!")
    6550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633499)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just for Men hair color really helps, Beets. I mean, seriously. It helps! ;)
    6551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633493)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some people think I look 29, but, really, I am 39. Really.
    6552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 633469)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Huzzah! everyone. Just popped in to do a quick meet and greet and be on my merry way once more. Still breathing to the consternation of the surly evil people.....

    Ta!


    Classifying anything as evil is not a particularly objective way of viewing the world.
    6553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . Your computer has made a significant discovery" (Message 633434)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now back to Woodall Primes ... .
    6554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633307)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *yawn* Good morning all :)

    Ditto.
    6555) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633222)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, keep it simple. Yes/No answers where possible.
    6556) Message boards : Number crunching : Are some work units just undownloadable? (Message 633221)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wasn't going to comment on the very same thing, Major. :)
    6557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 633218)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's Beets? I haven't seen him all day.

    He posted 11 hours ago.
    6558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 633172)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fellow SETIzens:

    If you are not one to regularly check the homepage or the Number Crunching forum, this is to inform you that there is a BOINC update. http://boincdl.ssl.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.20_windows_intelx86.exe.

    (This is a link directly to the download itself.)
    6559) Message boards : Number crunching : Are some work units just undownloadable? (Message 633167)
    Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, see some of the recent threads that refer to keeping a cache of a certain amount of days. If you have this set low and you do not tell it to connect t othe internet particularly often, then you might have everything done ... and now you're waiting to get just one more to work on.
    So, some of us set our cache to have 10 days of work. That way, so what if ONE WU is having trouble downloading? You'll have plenty of others that HAVE downloaded just fine and get crunched. As KWSN-MajorKong says, be patient, and you'll probably get that other, slow-downloading WU as well.
    Plus, you can also attach to some other BOINC projects.
    6560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 633080)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Labor Day! :)
    6561) Message boards : Number crunching : Keine neuen Daten (Message 633078)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wie geht es, Sir Ulli? Your RAC seems to have jumped considerably! :)
    6562) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633072)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm...

    I suppose that could be....

    OTOH, it doesn't hurt to click the thread and find out what it's all about. I've never gotten a zap from the keyboard or mouse from choosing the 'wrong' thread, yet. ;-)

    Alinator


    LOL!
    Let me get Labbie to start working on that thing that will zap you. :)
    6563) Message boards : Number crunching : Keine neuen Daten (Message 633070)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Seit Tagen bekomm ich keine neuen Daten von Seti,woran liegt das?


    Kannst du mal posten was unter 'Meldungen' steht!?


    [edit] Sarge, where did you get that translation? [/edit]


    I am sure the translation is terrible, but I wanted to get a start for his thread.
    I could recognize most of what he asked in his post but would have had difficulty expressing my response without a translator. Again, I am sure it is terrible but I figured he or someone could make sense of it or state it better. :)
    6564) Message boards : Number crunching : My units keep downloading. (Message 633068)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If he is use a certain version or above of the BOINC Manager, shouldn't he be able to make the preferences change on BOINC Manager itself?
    (Top left corner, choose ADVANCED --- fifth one over, then PREFERENCES --- second one down.)


    err ... using, not use
    6565) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633054)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just to float an idea....
    What about a new forum in the message boards area specifically called 'Request technical help' with the subtitle along the lines of 'request help with Boinc/Seti errors and running problems'.
    Or would that just be a diversion from NC?

    What I gathered from JM7's e-mail response to me was that there's something already in place, so I am saying that should be easier to find/better advertised ... ?
    6566) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633048)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And some problems require the help of a techie type to get to the bottom of.

    There's no doubt about that. I think my teammate was trying to address how to get a conversation going without getting overloaded too soon.
    6567) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633047)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The only thing I might ask of them is to take little time to look over the running threads before starting a new one. You can be pretty sure that any project related problem has most likely been detected by one of the regulars and been brought up for closer scrutiny. Generally we regulars take the effort to make 'problem' related titles descriptive enough so almost everyone can see which ones are applicable to their situations, as a recent new thread just demonstrated. ;-)

    Naming the threads is very important, as is updating them when the nature of problems discussed has either subsided or the focus of discussion has shifted, etc. ... .
    On the other hand, I think the thread titles in themselves, both the vague ones and the very specific ones might be scaring some folks off ... ?
    6568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Labor day in the USA (Message 633029)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I washed my dog......

    That's labor.
    6569) Message boards : Number crunching : For non-techies (Message 633028)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A friend/teammate recently stated:

    Maybe a mini-Forum or thread can be set up for beginners, I know that the Number Crunching forum is very intimidating for non-tech people.


    I passed this onto a mod, to see what the response would be and if no such thing existed already to perhaps have the mod forward it to admin/dev.

    His response was that the Help Desk already exists. I thought he meant the help some volunteers provide via Skype or some particular forum.

    So, to the point: where do we send people with questions when these people are not as into tech as some of the rest of us (and many of are you are more techy than I am, no doubt about it); and, second, is the place we should point them to advertised well enough?
    6570) Message boards : Number crunching : My units keep downloading. (Message 633026)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If he is use a certain version or above of the BOINC Manager, shouldn't he be able to make the preferences change on BOINC Manager itself?
    (Top left corner, choose ADVANCED --- fifth one over, then PREFERENCES --- second one down.)
    6571) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit. (Message 633024)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can even tell who the wingman is?
    MB has a similar RAC to yours.

    Sure, you see all sorts of weird and wonderful names out there. It reminds you how many SETI crunchers there are who never post in these boards, and, more importantly, probably never read them either.

    Just seeing Michael's name (or any name I recognised from the boards) was sufficiently unusual to be worth commenting on.


    Yes, Michael is known around here. Former moderator and I believe he also assists on the Help Line, via Skype ... ? Speaking of ... .
    6572) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit. (Message 633011)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In any event, if your trying to estimate how long the WU may stay pending it doesn't matter if the host is anonymous or not. You still get the info you need for that from the detailed host listing for your wingman.

    Alinator


    Can I PM my wingmates for certain WUs and say hurry the heck up?
    [Just kidding!]
    6573) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit. (Message 632991)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can even tell who the wingman is?
    MB has a similar RAC to yours.
    6574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . Your computer has made a significant discovery" (Message 632852)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's try this one.Which BOINC project is it that is trying to prove the Parallel Postulate?
    6575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goobledegook Part II (Message 632850)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    goodmorningtoall

    duneareyourunningoptimizedapps
    6576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goobledegook Part II (Message 632848)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wassupwasabi
    6577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . Your computer has made a significant discovery" (Message 632840)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's now official on www.primegrid.com. Finally. I've been eagerly waiting for the announcement. It was no surprise that it was a cullen/woodall, had it been a twin we would have been told. So we're still hunting for a twin prime.

    I found some!
    3 and 5!
    5 and 7!
    11 and 13!
    I suspect you mean the largest known twin primes.
    6578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . Your computer has made a significant discovery" (Message 632827)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a*(2^a)-1?
    6579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 632825)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not like green eggs and ham. :)
    6580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'watCh out! Bistro . . . (Message 632808)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nope
    6581) Message boards : Number crunching : Settings: which WUs get crunched first (Message 632805)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Points made. Currently I am only crunching for SETI, so I was not thinking about how this would conflict with other projects.
    6582) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit. (Message 632803)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps another issue is, when one looks and sees their pending credit rising, that there is some fluctuation up and down and more importantly it is not the same set of results waiting for validation as seen the previous time one looked? Likelihood of this guess?
    6583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632801)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just got back from downtown...There was a big fire...lots of smoke...I just drove through town and now i stink like the fire.

    Is it under control?

    Yes...The entire building is gone...and the last hot spot was being doused the last time i got close.



    ooh! Nasty. I feel for the owners!

    The owner was my cousin Mike...It was his restaurant and bar.


    :(
    6584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632790)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just got back from downtown...There was a big fire...lots of smoke...I just drove through town and now i stink like the fire.

    Is it under control?
    6585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632784)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about some music videos? :)
    6586) Message boards : Number crunching : Keine neuen Daten (Message 632776)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich bin nicht ein Muttersprachler des Deutschen. Sie fragten, warum Sie nicht neue Arbeit Maßeinheiten empfangen haben. Sie geben an, daß das Problem dauerte für einige Tage hat. Ein Moderator verschiebt vermutlich Ihren Pfosten auf das Zahl-Knirschenforum. Können Sie die Anzeigen kopieren, die unter dem vierten Vorsprung im BOINC Manager gezeigt werden und sie bekanntgeben?
    6587) Message boards : Number crunching : Keine neuen Daten (Message 632774)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SVEagle has asked, "For days now, I have received no new data (workunits) from SETI (at Home). Why is that where does the problem lle."
    6588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632772)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning.
    6589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 632771)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BBQ it up, America!
    Woot!
    :)
    6590) Message boards : Number crunching : Settings: which WUs get crunched first (Message 632682)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think what Ned said made that pretty clear.
    What I am saying is, why have download order be the standard order?
    You explained the bit about WUs that are in danger of not being finished in time resulting in going to EDF (earliest deadline first).
    So, what I am saying is, why not go by EDF always? Or a mix of that and consideration of some WUs that have already gone through 80-90% (or more) of the crunching, when there is no danger of missing a deadline?
    6591) Message boards : Number crunching : Settings: which WUs get crunched first (Message 632677)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, put it this way. Can I set it to go for the one with the closest deadline? It'd be nice if it took into account deadline, no matter how far off; progress already made; download order. But I think the last of these might be least important. If not, why not?

    [EDIT: I have quite a bit due this month after following your suggestion about caching in the other thread.]
    6592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632674)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope.
    6593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632665)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am back to say good night to beets, and give you guys a little mor hard time. ;-))))
    BTW if you guys would crunch Beta as well then we could chase each other all around the SETI Boards.

    LOL.
    Nah. Even if we crunched it, we would not post there.
    6594) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly running out of SETI work, or not Downloading (Message 632645)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ned, agreed. I just did not know about the second option until you pointed it out. Perhaps more accurately, I had overlooked it. I have another settings question. I'll create a new thread for it. At my cursory glances, it is not something recently discussed.

    It "snuck in" rather quietly, and it's very cool.

    As in the option had not been there previously?
    6595) Message boards : Number crunching : Settings: which WUs get crunched first (Message 632644)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To keep this brief, for the time being, isn't there a setting where you can tell BOINC the WUs that are closer to their due dates should be crunched first?
    6596) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly running out of SETI work, or not Downloading (Message 632642)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ned, agreed. I just did not know about the second option until you pointed it out. Perhaps more accurately, I had overlooked it. I have another settings question. I'll create a new thread for it. At my cursory glances, it is not something recently discussed.
    6597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 632630)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Night, Beets.
    6598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632625)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NO!!! Stay here! :)
    6599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632621)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo!

    Woot! MB be here!


    I'm always here...just keeping a low profile. Guess I don't have to explain why :)


    Because all the cute ladies would be after you and that would mean you'd have a lot of explaining to do with your wife? :)
    6600) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly running out of SETI work, or not Downloading (Message 632613)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ned,

    As you are not a novice, I'm sure you noticed the caching options in BOINC, especially the newer BOINC versions. I've got "connect every 'x' days" at 0.25 and "keep 'x' days of additional work" set to 10.

    At my current rate, I've got approximately a weeks' worth of SETI waiting to be crunched. I've never gone a week without being able to upload/download.


    Thanks for this portion of the post. I had set connect every 10 days so that I could have many WUs ready to work over the course of a week or so as you stated. But, to get them to upload, I would update. (Then, I increased the frequency of connections so I would not have to do that, but with, of course, a dwindling cache.) Thanks to you, I see that there is the "Keep 'x' days of additional work" setting as well. Thanks again!
    6601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632603)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yo!

    Woot! MB be here!
    6602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . Your computer has made a significant discovery" (Message 632569)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's awful lot of people with the screenname "Owner."
    6603) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 632562)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I doubt fluffy kittens could help with technical issues. Or are we saying that fluffy kittens create technical issues? My first suggestion would be, clean out your fan periodically. Make sure all kitty hair has been removed from the fan.
    6604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632553)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dont make my head hurt trying to read the words....

    lol
    6605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 632545)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am wondering if we need a forum for non-SETI technical issues? Sometimes what we learn there can lead to our running our machines better overall, including da crunchin'! :)



    Only just noticed this post Sarge!!!!

    That is a terrific idea.

    Possible, do you think?

    Regards

    PJ


    Strike my previous response, PJ. So, you do like the idea? Anyone else for it? Who would like to present the idea to admin and developers?
    6606) Message boards : Number crunching : Quick Question? (Message 632527)
    Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And how does one get clocked?


    Diss a Liverpudlian's girlfriend ;)


    OK, now for the REAL answer, please?
    6607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 632469)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Master burns nice fishes.

    Hey, now, Lord of the Rings references have not gone over well in the last 2 days. :)
    6608) Message boards : Number crunching : Quick Question? (Message 632465)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And how does one get clocked?
    6609) Message boards : Number crunching : Quick Question? (Message 632284)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Explain what is meant by the term "overclocking," please.


    Overclocking is manually adjusting a computer's bios settings to run the cpu, fsb, or ram (or all of them) at faster speeds than they are rated for by the manufacturer.


    That was one of my guesses. Thanks.
    6610) Message boards : Number crunching : Spotted on Usenet (Message 632273)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donald Knuth, the developer of TeX?
    6611) Message boards : Number crunching : Quick Question? (Message 632272)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Explain what is meant by the term "overclocking," please.
    6612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 632264)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Base?
    6613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 632184)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got promised a care package by a crazy redhead last summer.
    She always came up with excuses for not sending one out.
    6614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 632178)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yesterday's breakfast looked better. :)
    6615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goobledegook Part II (Message 632088)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    thenursesgavemeadaypass...

    ikeephearingaboutnurseolgawasitherireallydonotknowanythingaboutolga
    6616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632087)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course not. The singer from INXS did. As did Saddam.

    Where they both seti posters?

    I don't think so - it just seems like that sometimes.

    You can't associate all Australians with INXS. :)
    BTW, Michael, would you be willing to provide me your e-mail address in a PM? Thanks.
    6617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632079)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not believe so.
    (You've got mail.)
    6618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632075)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of course not. The singer from INXS did. As did Saddam.
    6619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goobledegook Part II (Message 632074)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    backagaintimetoplayhowareallyouitsabeautifulday

    whoaihaveonlyseenyouateinstein
    6620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 632065)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's difficult to type that way.
    6621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Goobledegook Part II (Message 632062)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    houdiyouvegotemail
    6622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A reminder of Lady Diana (Message 631989)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    sorry for my mistake Dennis.



    Danke, Mike.
    6623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631986)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guten morgen.
    6624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 631815)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Believe it or not...?

    George is not at home.
    If he were,
    he'd pick up the phone.
    6625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 631806)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Greatest American Hero?
    6626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 631792)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK..so now the radio is looking at me...

    So, just put a pillow or a blanket over it. Anyway I thought it was the TV that looked at you.

    John, it looks like your RAC needs some help? How about some optimized apps?
    6627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 631735)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Turn UP
    the radio.
    I need the music.
    Gimme some more.
    6628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW[45] - Condemned for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 631732)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hey guys, say Hi to some people we know....





    Hi people F, M, T :D


    Hi ppl we all know.
    6629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 631673)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's the BBQs?
    6630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631596)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HI Sarge Need rating on the strength of the coffee :o)

    You're the rater or you want my rating?
    6631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 631591)
    Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no good ideas, PJ. :)
    6632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631498)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When it's a foul ball
    who ya gonna call?
    Fat or skinny short or tall?
    6633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631487)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

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    6634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 631468)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Geller?
    6635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631360)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets is trying to give the 20somethings a run for their money.
    6636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631340)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doing it all for Rocky.
    6637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631296)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.


    LOL You must be the Top Cat!


    Not me.
    Rocky.
    6638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631278)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.
    6639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631257)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All are welcome to post here, so long as they BEHAVE.
    6640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A reminder of Lady Diana (Message 631254)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would be nice if Mother Teresa was given the same media coverage and recognition. The 10th anniversary of her death is due on the 5th Sept.

    Which will history remember the most?


    I dont know how blind you are.

    But she has.

    I pleased to be nice.

    There is a misunderstanding here...I wasn't diminishing Diana, but only putting her death into context. Both ladies should get recognition for the best aspects of their lives.

    And I was just questioning which would be remember more in the future for their accomplishments. How was this not being nice...I am confused about this reply.


    As am I.
    Mike, wir sind konfus. Dennis war nicht unfreundlich.
    6641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 631196)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Hey, I told you I like my lion cubs medium rare!"
    6642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631194)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, did someone lose something?
    6643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 631191)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The word
    wasabi
    was taken for a commercial as a slang version of "What's up?"

    Try putting a teaspoon of that into your mouth and ask "what's up!"

    I eat Chinese; I only had Japanese once. The saki was disappointing.
    6644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 631099)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The word
    wasabi
    was taken for a commercial as a slang version of "What's up?"
    6645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631084)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.
    6646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631083)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heyas! How's everone?

    There's nothing special on my mind. I'm just dropped in to pick up my "Thank you for stopping by."

    I mean, what makes Chris so special? I want my "Thank you for stopping by." too! :)

    You don't want the same "Thank you for stopping by." I gave Chris S. I always appreciate your coming over here, whereas Chris S was only here to try and cause a problem. My message to him was as meant to show him the door.

    Thanks Tom, for reinstating my post. That was nice of you. :)

    My humor is sometimes misunderstood, particularly when someone's being oversensitive. Happens to the best of us, from time to time.

    May cool heads prevail. :)


    "I am Saruman. Or, rather, Saruman as he should have been."
    6647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631078)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/08/rip-death-by-penguin-mints
    6648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 631062)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not lately.
    Where's your sig?
    6649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631048)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It'd probably make crash 30 minutes later.
    6650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 631046)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?
    6651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 631045)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks yummy! :)
    6652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 631044)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It really is time for a very strong coffee!

    Could I have one here, or is Sarge's coffee even stronger?

    If memory serves...Sarge's coffee is "super" strong...whereas John is requesting coffee that is merely "very" strong..."Super strong" is a notch stronger than "very" strong...Of course "ludicrously" strong coffee is stronger even than "super" strong coffee...and should not be consumed by small children or those with health problems.

    It's time for the "Dan's Ludicrously Strong Coffee" thread! :)
    6653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 631036)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's just support SETI and drink lots of coffee and tea! :)
    6654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 631031)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like the Labor Day Weekend Party is shaping up quite nicely. :)
    Is more food or beer needed?
    6655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630779)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.
    6656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 630778)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmm, Labor Day... The day when the people who never work take off and the people who always work get time and a half... ;)


    Triple time here. Gotta love the " Premium " holidays. :-)


    Think what you can do with all the extra money.
    6657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630774)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is that pic from a visit?
    6658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630768)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    fangorn forest is awakening
    6659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630724)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Trees?
    6660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630717)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of Old Smokey ... .
    6661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Run your car on water fuel? (Message 630692)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... can't be done. :)
    6662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630637)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The BBQ is going on in the Labor Day Weekend thread.
    All are welcome, so long as they hebave.
    6663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 630632)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You need some optimized apps.
    If 5 of 30 is not around this weekend, I shall try to help you install them.

    I don't want to sound ungrateful, but pleeease could you send 7 of 9 instead?

    That part would be played by Esme. Will she do?
    6664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630623)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    it was kind of a thread killer comment wasn't it?

    My thread is getting bigger and better all the time!
    ("BILBO BAGGINS! DO NOT THINK OF ME AS SOME CHEAP CONJURER OF TRICKS! I'm trying to HELP you.")

    I'm talking to a hobbit on AIM right now.

    Are you sure it is not a dwarf/zwerg?
    6665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 630605)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You need some optimized apps.
    If 5 of 30 is not around this weekend, I shall try to help you install them.
    6666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630597)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    it was kind of a thread killer comment wasn't it?

    My thread is getting bigger and better all the time!
    ("BILBO BAGGINS! DO NOT THINK OF ME AS SOME CHEAP CONJURER OF TRICKS! I'm trying to HELP you.")
    6667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 630583)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmm - how do obstetricians celebrate labor day?

    michael, your rac indicates you need to labor more for seti. :)
    6668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : happy labor day weekend, america!!! (Message 630562)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a thread for the truly patriotic!
    6669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630556)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I prefer Deutsch pastry. Jawohl?
    6670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630536)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...
    6671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why are.. (Message 630522)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... people posting in this thread?
    6672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630521)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anywho, since it's you and you are cool and you asked nicely, I will respect your request. :)
    6673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630514)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top!
    6674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630504)
    Posted 1 Sep 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (We're out of baked beans this morning, the staff appologizes.)


    You just can't get 'em these days....

    Good Morning, Chris!
    That's a Poot point, everyone around here seems to have eaten them all. :)


    Morning Beets, I'll get back to yer....


    Thankee! Bring a bunch of... whatever, with you, okay?


    Will do my friend.

    In the meantime, thought you'd like to see some friends of ours




    That one in the middle looks like The Hamburgler.
    6675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 630476)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hehehe I'm liking this competition :D

    thanks Dog bytes

    so here we go again <(°¿°)>



    Knock yerselves out :)


    "Senator Larry Craig's disguise prior to the Milwaukee Airport debacle."
    6676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630468)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When did San Diego secede from Canuckia?
    6677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 630366)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Huh? What? How the heck did I get in this thread?
    BTW, Mrs. Miggins says "I didn't mean to quote a post which depicted poopy."
    6678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630322)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quit complaining and support SETI! :)
    6679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630225)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Me:
    Nice, but has naughty lapses. High marks in the good deeds department. Better than average manners. Hopefully, thoughtfulness will continue to be as good as last month. Neatness needs improvement!
    6680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630221)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Santa Derek al-Kwarizmi Claus?
    6681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630219)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets to the rescue, saving us from a triumvirate of teddy bears!


    Moi? Little Me? LOL

    I posted this elswhere, but did you hear of the secret Teddy Bears Picnic?

    Teddy Bears Picnic


    I think it was held last weekend in Ontario?
    6682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 630214)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    In the meantime, thought you'd like to see some friends of ours




    They seem so nice!

    Who's providing security?


    Sarge.




    Thank Goodness it's a military man! I mean, with all the threats out there and all.


    Oh. Crap. Somebody should have warned me sooner! :)
    6683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630212)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which Triumvarate?


    Shhhh!

    http://seti.meetup.com/




    Great site. I go there. It's a place where I can support SETI.
    6684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630211)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets to the rescue, saving us from a triumvirate of teddy bears!
    6685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630193)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which Triumvarate?
    6686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630191)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where's my coffee?!?
    6687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630177)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is a substitute.
    6688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630175)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Accept no substitutes! :)
    6689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630171)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SETI Supporters website.


    OK, see you there....


    It's a busy site! That and the Yahoo! Group!
    6690) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630170)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Teddy Ruxpin?
    6691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630124)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SETI Supporters website.
    6692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630122)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SETI Supporters website.
    6693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 630115)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's Teddy?
    6694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630041)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nite cap
    6695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630007)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    30 packets of ketchup, please!

    Sarge Hold up there it may be poison.

    Big Daddy would never poison anyone!
    6696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 630001)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    30 packets of ketchup, please!
    6697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629985)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wassup?

    New by-line Sarge?

    Keeps things moving. Creates a yellow image. Makes people look. People look, people post.

    Wassup is a new Ketchup brand....

    It is?
    6698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations Eric - ' . . . the algorithm' (Message 629983)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And, once again, way to go Derek on your al-Kwarizmi! :)
    6699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629981)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wassup?

    New by-line Sarge?

    Keeps things moving. Creates a yellow image. Makes people look. People look, people post.
    6700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629974)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wassup?
    6701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629970)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey

    howdy!
    6702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 629942)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    DB, explain metaprolol.
    Hi Robert.
    6703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 629911)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?
    6704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 629907)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets rules!
    All you other cafes (except the Original Rocky's) drool!
    Yeah, Beets is the real shady
    the real Slim Shady.
    All you other shadies
    are just imitating.
    So will the real Slim Shady
    please stand up?
    6705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My Total Lunar Eclipse pics! (Message 629905)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice!
    6706) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 629899)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    TL, Pawly and I had PMd him, but I am sure there'd be no problem if you contacted him yourself. Let me know if you'd prefer otherwise. (PM thru Calm Chaos?)
    6707) Message boards : Number crunching : Wolf 359 Club (Message 629891)
    Posted 31 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your current SETI@home/BOINC account is already linked to a Classic account.

    Please click on "Your Account" and look in the "Work done" section to see your Classic statistics.


    Stupid website set up --- I had an original SETI Classic account and then the e-mail address became invalid, followed by a second SETI Classic account formed in 2001, long before BOINC. Grrr.
    6708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 629816)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "OK, that's it! If you don't hop off that bear's back right NOW and put away those cymbals, I am filing for divorce!!!"
    6709) Message boards : Number crunching : Wolf 359 Club (Message 629813)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you join SETI@home, the electronic transaction creates radio waves which travel outward at the speed of light. They're too faint to be detected at any significant distance, but they do exist.

    At about 4 years and 4 months those waves reach the triple star system Alpha Centauri, around 6 years they reach Barnard's star, and at 7 years and 10 months they reach Wolf 359.

    I'll be able to join the Wolf 359 club in about 3 months.
                                                      Joe


    What's annoying to me is I cannot tie my account into my original account, which was formed around September, 1999.
    Anyone still have links to the Classic page that gave stats by entering an e-mail address?


    Try the link at the bottom of this page.

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php

    Claggy


    Claggy, I am referring to a page that provided stats, pre-BOINC days. Drk background.
    As I said, my original e-mail account I signed up with has been inaccessible for years and so I cannot merge my original account with the one I formed in 2001.
    6710) Message boards : Number crunching : If your RAC keeps dropping, check your preferences (Message 629812)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FWIW, as thread originator you can change the title, but only for the one hour edit period of the OP. After that the edit box for the title goes away.

    Also, My RAC seems to have bottomed out finally (about a 60 % drop from the peak I was at, due to all factors involved with the MB rollout) and is now starting to go up again as the work from the backups gets finished.

    Alinator


    That's not true. I have been able to change my thread title for days after something I've authored.
    Again, you must make a clean post in your thread; not a post that is a reply to someone else's post.
    Last, do not encourage the changing of thread titles by others.
    6711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629810)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go to sleep quietly to the sound of the Snodgrass rhapsody in F minor

    Ahhh! The Snodgrass rhapsody! I thought it was in ZZZZZ Major, though.


    For Dogbytes it would be in Canis Major...


    As long as the sound system has good Woofers, I agree! :)


    Boo!
    6712) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 629805)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Yo, ma! Watch me play the drum solo from 'Whole Lotta Love' for this polar bear!"
    6713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 629801)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, here are two with maple leaves.

    They are 127 x 127 pixels, so you might shrink them to 100 x 100 pixels








    Fantastic, many thanks Fuzzy. Sorry about the delay in repling, My wife forgot to take her medication earlier this evening and had a bad fit earlier, so I've had to keep an eye on her.

    She's ok now & has seen the pic's & she also said thank you (she's crazy like me)

    Regards

    PJ.


    Give a man a fish vs. teaching him to fish.
    6714) Message boards : Number crunching : Wolf 359 Club (Message 629673)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When you join SETI@home, the electronic transaction creates radio waves which travel outward at the speed of light. They're too faint to be detected at any significant distance, but they do exist.

    At about 4 years and 4 months those waves reach the triple star system Alpha Centauri, around 6 years they reach Barnard's star, and at 7 years and 10 months they reach Wolf 359.

    I'll be able to join the Wolf 359 club in about 3 months.
                                                      Joe


    What's annoying to me is I cannot tie my account into my original account, which was formed around September, 1999.
    Anyone still have links to the Classic page that gave stats by entering an e-mail address?
    6715) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 629669)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoa. You doubled or tripled in just a few days?!?
    6716) Message boards : Number crunching : If your RAC keeps dropping, check your preferences (Message 629668)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, but how do I do that?

    Carlos, if you post a new reply (without quoting someone else), you as the thread author can look just above the message box ... and ... there you will see you have another box with the thread title that you can enter and alter.
    6717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 629662)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The poor penguins were about to find that Knute was not as cute and cuddly as he was when he was an infant bear.
    6718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629648)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, my!
    6719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629644)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who remembers this post?
    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#454087
    You say the same thing over and over, lie and put lies in the mouths of others. Goodbye, Chuck. You are not worth speaking with.


    So Sarge, you do have a limit to your patience. I am surprised you took so long to reach it.

    Then Chuck posts this little bit of irony:

    Why does all of this annoy me and put a cactus in my backside? Because I detest seeing people misled and abused - and religion sure abuses females, aside from others.


    . . . from perhaps the most abusive poster these boards have seen in a very long time. And yet Chuck has the nerve to complain that he is being deprived of his "freedom of expression", as if he has some right to be as rude, intolerant, close minded and verbally abusive as he has so consistently been.
    6720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 629641)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Thorin...

    Now it's your turn to post a pic, Logan.
    6721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629629)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_forum.php?id=3
    6722) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 629623)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My RAC broke 500 overnight! Woo hoo! :)
    6723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629622)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the faint of heart..LOL



    Crap. Just wait until I go back to my office, CA!



    ... office speeds! :P

    Wow you must be right at the Hub! Smokin!


    --- coffee shop speeds.
    6724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 629617)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I red-x'd you Rush. Your soon to be my only ignored member on the SETI forums. Congratulations. At least I won't have to watch you hijack this thread any more. I will miss your political babel, though.

    Do as you wish, I couldn't care less.

    I encourage anyone who believes, as I do, that Rush argues for the sake of arguing, to join me in a happier place without Rush's bad karma. We can always watch him on the Dr. Phil show in the near future. Interpret that.

    OK: ride on, Don Quixotes, ride on.

    Oh stop whinning about Rush !! Acknowledge your superior !!!!!


    It's spelled "whining." :)
    Anyway, like you acknowledged I am your superior? :)
    (Posters helping other posters spell good!)
    6725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 629544)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    6726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629528)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The whole world is gradually slowing down due the the massive uptake of the internet in the last couple of years. Most routers are running already at maximum capacity. By the end of this decade there will be a serious problem if its not tackled soon.

    http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

    The Original Rocky's Cafe - beware cheap imitations


    My router is only running at 6% of it's capacity!

    Where is the problem?

    Drinking coffee while Chris thinks about his answer!

    Your router needs more coffee...


    Amen to that!
    6727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629456)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about that Heroes thread?
    6728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629451)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon, Cap! You gotta comment on those speeds.
    6729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629445)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the faint of heart..LOL



    Crap. Just wait until I go back to my office, CA!



    ... office speeds! :P
    6730) Message boards : Number crunching : 1/3 (Message 629428)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Law of the Middle Third"? Exclusion?
    Cantor's Set?
    6731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 629374)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No problem! :)
    6732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 629366)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wasn't this update supposed to go in the "Where's Beets?" thread? :)
    6733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kokomiko is SETI UOTD! (Message 629358)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We're BOINCing, alright.
    6734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kokomiko is SETI UOTD! (Message 629344)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RE: Ditto.
    Repeated addition is the simplest introduction to multiplication; repeated multiplication is the simplest introduction to exponentiation.
    Repeated BOINCing?

    Congrats, Kokimiko!
    6735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 629335)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doctors did not kill Beethoven.
    Beets is alive, well, and kicking BUTT!!!
    Howdy, Beets! :)
    6736) Message boards : Number crunching : If your RAC keeps dropping, check your preferences (Message 629319)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - your reasons for the RAC drop are different than others might experience when there is a server problem. Therefore, the thread title could be seen as alarmist. Might I suggest altering it a bit?
    6737) Message boards : Number crunching : If your RAC keeps dropping, check your preferences (Message 629316)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm. 25000/4 is indeed nearly 6000.
    6738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629315)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I feel very slow tonight.

    Thats cause you have Jim S, server lol..

    The Hillbilly Network!

    It's A T & T...But I am near the maximum permissible distance from the central office...So my speed suffers...But yes...there is a cornfield nearby.

    We have cornfields here too! Lots of em, But not like Iowa....

    Siran's in Iowa...I'm in Illinois!

    Not only do we have cornfields...But we also have plenty of soybean fields here too...But no maple surple.

    No maple Syrup?? How can that be?? Maple Syrup is a must have for all those great IL flapjacks.

    Maple syrup comes from Vermont; happy cows come from California.
    6739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 629291)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? : Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?
    6740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629249)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the faint of heart..LOL



    Crap. Just wait until I go back to my office, CA!

    6741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629245)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Evening, Dan.
    6742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629238)
    Posted 30 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the one and only Rocky's!
    6743) Questions and Answers : Web site : Problem with yellow post marker (Message 629188)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not necessarily. Messages that have changed (edited in some way), will have the tag turned back on.

    Mods do not have the power to change messages.
    We should not be discussing moderation on these forums.
    If we have a problem, we should send it to the setimods e-mail address provided by Berkeley.
    6744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 629181)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    186,272, actually.
    Perhaps with some stuff following the decimal point.
    The answer Chris mentioned is that whole "this is just right for the porridge" theory. "Three Bears," anybody?
    6745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 629129)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the one and only Rocky's!
    6746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 629048)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eat DU and DIE you worthless scumbags!!!!!

    Disclaimer: The above hy-larious caption should not be interpreted as a command to actually ingest heavy metal dust of any kind. It doesn't react well with the human body.


    Some of us like heavy metal music!
    6747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why is earth life so boring to me? (Message 629025)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Funny thing is, I bet this has nothing to do with what the thread author was getting at.
    6748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 629020)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't blame it on today's kids. It's been around a long time and more people were and are doing that than some of us imagine.
    As for Franciscan schools: I'm not Catholic, but for my freshman year I went to a Catholic college on a full-tuition scholarship. Alcohol was very present there and marijuana was there as well. Trust me. It was there. Over 20 years ago.
    6749) Message boards : Number crunching : Troubleshooting SETI@Home (Message 628999)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Dave!
    No expert here but maybe you need to install the latest version of BOINC?
    Just a thought. Maybe check with the guys on the Number Crunching Board.

    Hope this helps,
    Paul

    Nothing like a high tech Windows 98 screensaver...the old Classic one was far better by a long shot...I disable the thing.


    Unfortunately the poster is running a Mackintosh which I have no experience with.


    I ran Classic on a Mac.
    6750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628998)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've never touched it either. That doesn't mean I do not know what it looks like.
    6751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628994)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait your turn, Dennis! It's Thorin's turn. :)
    6752) Message boards : Number crunching : Troubleshooting SETI@Home (Message 628979)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello, people. I am a long-time S@H user, and for the first time the displayy seems to be "stuck." The interface floats in the starfield, my other BOINC project seems OK, but S@H seems NOT to be processing, at least as shown in graphics. Any suggestions?

    BTW, what other BOINC project(s) are you running?
    6753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628978)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On closer examination, I see some suspicious looking leaves over The Grim Reaper's shoulders and the smoke coming from the ... cigarette (?) ... is green ... .


    I do believe they may be Maple leaves, which might be appropriate given the Genteman's Team?


    I noticed the sig/team, but I guess Sirius B will have to confirm or deny.
    6754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628960)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Just google for it.

    I saw such pics, but i don´t remember where.




    Hi Mike

    I've managed to edit it, please let me know if this is acceptable & please accept my apologies. I totally forgot about being kid friendly.



    Regards

    PJ


    On closer examination, I see some suspicious looking leaves over The Grim Reaper's shoulders and the smoke coming from the ... cigarette (?) ... is green ... .
    6755) Message boards : Number crunching : Servers down? (Message 628954)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How the hell are we supposed to find ET if the damn servers are down all the time???

    This is why BOINC caches work.

    The servers don't need 99.999% availability.


    Set the "Connect to internet" to every 10 days, then download a bunch of WUs! :)
    Then, once you've got a lot, change the connect to something more reasonable.
    6756) Message boards : Number crunching : Troubleshooting SETI@Home (Message 628941)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello, people. I am a long-time S@H user, and for the first time the displayy seems to be "stuck." The interface floats in the starfield, my other BOINC project seems OK, but S@H seems NOT to be processing, at least as shown in graphics. Any suggestions?

    This might be better in the number crunching forum.
    Have you tried exiting then restarting BOINC?
    I think several of us do not even us the graphics anymore. Look under your tasks tab for indication of whether SETI is processing any WUs.
    6757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My RAC doesn't need Viagra (Message 628897)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    wOO-hOO . . . gOt that credit of 106.44



    Congrats!
    6758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 628888)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am wondering if we need a forum for non-SETI technical issues? Sometimes what we learn there can lead to our running our machines better overall, including da crunchin'! :)
    6759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628875)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin wins, with: "Robinson Crusoe, the latest remake :)"
    6760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628834)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And a sensible conclusion we got, just shows you how it can be done. 10/10 to all concerned.


    Yes, I quite agree. I was always taught by my late parents that If you are unsure of something, rather than just going ahead & doing it, Ask.

    Regards

    PJ


    Yep, ask the mods (or "The 30").
    6761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628828)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You could e-mail it to the setimods e-mail address at Berkeley and ask if it would be appropriate as an avatar. Alternatively, you could ask one of "The 30," poster advocate group!
    6762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Avatars (Message 628816)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That would be inappropriate as an avatar.
    6763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628783)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon! One more caption.
    6764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 628693)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I used to. Now I live in Oregon.

    Klamath Falls?

    Ya, thats me.

    I was trying to tell you in another thread a few days ago that I have relatives there.
    6765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628678)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ever heard the phrase " A cold day in Hell " ?? LMAO

    Nope. Never heard it. :P
    6766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628671)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Friday



    Saturday



    Sunday

    6767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 628667)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But was he waiting for Godot? Or Gushy?


    Definitely Gushy!


    OK. But leave the stuff of the other post to the hologram Al. :P
    6768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 628664)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I used to. Now I live in Oregon.

    Klamath Falls?
    6769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628594)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the one and only Rocky's!
    6770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 628593)
    Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not, everything else is possible, why not time travel??


    Have you seen any tourists from the future?

    I have a hypothesis that time travel is only possible going forward, but not back in time. The 4th dimension (time travel) doesn't have a direction. One simply cannot face one direction and move backwards faster than the speed of light and expect time to move in reverse, rather time would still travel forward but the individual would be moving in the reverse direction.

    Unless of course, Dr. Sam Beckett's String Theory is a little more accurate than we all thought. ;)


    But was he waiting for Godot? Or Gushy?
    6771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Travel (Message 628518)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aw, phooey!

    For a moment there, I thought I was going to have a chance to explain why Time Travel is Impossible in this Universe.

    And *without* having to use any complex math either.


    I'd still love to hear it. 8-)

    Keep in mind that Douglas Adams teaches us that nothing is impossible, just highly improbable.


    I want the complex math, more Douglas Adams quotes and some old-school Ozzy tunes.
    6772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628495)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?!?
    6773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628300)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmm, coffee.
    Got up just a little too late for the eclipse, myself.
    6774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628297)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge tries to " impress the ladies " by doing his best Flamingo impersonation.

    I could give them a little chronology. May I use the pic in your sig? Linked or download and then put in my own Photobucket?



    Ummmm....what??? lol


    Remember? Meeting Death the next day?
    6775) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 628205)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am going to guess he downloaded the newest ... stock?
    He'd also mentioned formatting, so maybe he did a reformat ... ? ... then downloaded the newest BOINC app?
    6776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628201)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge tries to " impress the ladies " by doing his best Flamingo impersonation.

    I could give them a little chronology. May I use the pic in your sig? Linked or download and then put in my own Photobucket?
    6777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Space Question (Message 628191)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we'll see a moon base within the next 20 years...China is now challenging the US with their space program...The US will respond with more funding for things like a moon base to retain leadership in this vital arena...The Chinese space program is the best news NASA could get...It means that the space race is on again.

    That'll probably be the kick in the pants for the US.
    6778) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 628178)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just out of pure curiosity, did anyone find out exactly who Rick emailed?

    He didn't mention it in his PM to me. Why not PM him and ask, pointing out you are one of the forum moderators?


    I didn't want to inundate him with too many PMs from too many people. I just figured if someone knew, they'd share.


    Good point.
    He just PMd me within the past hour.
    He said he's got things working now, as we've seen. He also said something about a "full format." A reformat?!?
    6779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Space Question (Message 628168)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Wasn't there a proposal in the 1950's to send a ship to Mars by usings small atomic bombs as a propellant?


    The previous comment made by CRUNCHY about thrust levels is all too true, we need better technology and MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE of if.


    I think 'jim little' made that comment. It was not me. (Though I wish I had.)




    You should have been there in 1982 when I got to see Carl Sagan shoot down some crazy audience member's idea of a "space butterfly" and another's idea of nuking some moon of Jupiter or Saturn to warm it up for human habitation.
    6780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628153)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm saving coffee for 5:30 a.m. tomorrow; need a good night's rest tonight.
    6781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628149)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know.
    6782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628144)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ow

    You ok Sarge?? ;-))

    I'll live.

    Remind us next time to use the larger branch. ;-)

    I guess it's "Sarge Self-Deprecation" night. :)
    6783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628130)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ow

    You ok Sarge?? ;-))

    I'll live.
    6784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 628129)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Michael.
    No flames on this next one.

    6785) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 628121)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just out of pure curiosity, did anyone find out exactly who Rick emailed?

    He didn't mention it in his PM to me. Why not PM him and ask, pointing out you are one of the forum moderators?
    6786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628116)
    Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ow
    6787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628061)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ha ha!
    6788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 628044)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Coffee won't help me now. I just need rest.
    6789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 628034)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have to wonder what sorts of jobs/careers people have in mind when they post their thoughts in this thread?

    Next Attorney General

    Funny, but I doubt that is what is on their minds.
    6790) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 628020)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just looked at his hosts again. He shows to have two results downloaded on his computer.

    As of when?
    I thought he said last night he has not been able to connect to the project for about a month? Of course, I see the parts where it says no work from project.
    Pawly, thanks. I also PMd him. You saw the response first. Thanks for being another poster that helps posters! :)
    6791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 628016)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have to wonder what sorts of jobs/careers people have in mind when they post their thoughts in this thread?
    6792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 627862)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unfortunately, I am off to work and will be busy several hours.


    Well, I hope your day goes better than expected!

    See you later, Sarge.


    Lunch break!
    6793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 627861)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dominique says, "Eat a banana!" :)
    6794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 627859)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the other threads

    Nah, we wants to see Beets in other threads, too!
    Hi, Dominique!
    6795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 627748)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unfortunately, I am off to work and will be busy several hours.
    6796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 627737)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Sarge, John, Dan and Domi!

    Coffee anyone?



    Yes, coffee, please.
    6797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 627733)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BANaNaED?
    6798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 627732)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eating BANANAS now also seems to be offensive.

    If you have a complaint about moderation, do not discuss it on the forums, Instead, e-mail the moderators at the Berkeley setimods address.
    Alternatively, e-mail on of "The 30," poster advocate group.
    6799) Message boards : Number crunching : good bye (Message 627660)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    His 5 posts do not state the problem. Perhaps someone should PM him and ask the problem. Hopefully, Rick will see an e-mail that he has a private message and then respond to it. I'm sure we can put him in touch with someone helpful.
    6800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 627645)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the one and only Rocky's!
    6801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 627642)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not quite 24 hours later and now he's no longer Chinese, but is instead Telly Savalas.
    6802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627637)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I came prepared for the rain.
    I'll bet Sarge never wore one of these!


    No, his has a propeller on top...


    That's reminiscent of one of Dominique's sigs! :)
    6803) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 627630)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now my RAC is over 400 for ... I think ... the first time ever?
    Thank Chicken? :)
    6804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 627629)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    you're not kidding- that's an understatement...

    Nieca has been trying to get my attention and I can't figure out what she wants.



    She wants water.
    6805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627628)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BTW, The ladies dig umbrella hats!

    I've researched this and, no, they don't. They rank only slightly less worse than do beer mug hats and cheese heads. :P
    6806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627621)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't.
    She doesn't.
    No, I don't.

    ;^D


    lol!
    6807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 627619)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    6808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627615)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I seriously doubt his girlfriend would let him out like that...

    I seriously doubt Pawly lets her boss him around. :)
    6809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627610)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I came prepared for the rain.
    I'll bet Sarge never wore one of these!




    Well - at least he's not wearing socks with those flip flops. LOL

    - Love ya Pawly ;)


    He took the black socks he was wearing off just before the pic was snapped.
    6810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627607)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I came prepared for the rain.
    I'll bet Sarge never wore one of these!



    I have dignity. :P
    6811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 627593)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no idea who Grizz is, but Pawly, you need to stop stealing my casual dress style! :P
    6812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627584)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Imma puke now. Thanks, msattler.


    I didn't bring it up...no pun intended.


    Well, in this case, it'd be like the one kid on the bus that did it and it was so bad other kids on the bus had to as well. :P
    6813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627581)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Imma puke now. Thanks, msattler.
    6814) Message boards : Number crunching : Nez to reach 1,000,000 RAC ? (Message 627580)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What are you talking about? My RAC has been on the rise for 8 days!


    Yes, but your's went down first just like everyone else.....his has just been going up and up and away......

    Although I'm sure you'll catch up with him in a few hundred years....;-)


    You did not ask why it went down.
    It was not for the same reason as everyone else.
    :)


    My RAC was going down 8.15-8.17.
    Looking at the host average, it was increasing, though the slope itself increased around 8.18.
    6815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627578)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sounds "Ewww!," Dan.
    6816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627568)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can also remember the days when the occasional upstart tried to make an impression. I wonder where they are now?

    You talkin' to me? Huh? You talkin' to me? You must be talkin' to me, 'cuz I don't seen anybody else up in herre. FO SHIZZLE!


    Sarge, are you saying you are an upstart?? ;-)


    I suppose what I was trying to impart was that the friendly banter that went on, was nothing more that that. We had respect for one another regardless of the ribald comments.

    Believe me, I was on the end of some. I should know.


    I know not this ribaldry of which you speak. Nay, not even the word be one which to me I find familiar.
    6817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627523)
    Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can also remember the days when the occasional upstart tried to make an impression. I wonder where they are now?

    You talkin' to me? Huh? You talkin' to me? You must be talkin' to me, 'cuz I don't seen anybody else up in herre. FO SHIZZLE!
    6818) Message boards : Number crunching : why am I not getting credit (Message 627488)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have tons of units pending.
    Not sure if it has any bearing on this thread though.

    That's what my post was getting at. Seeing the --- in Astro's cut-n-paste made me think of it.
    6819) Message boards : Number crunching : why am I not getting credit (Message 627464)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If I am reading Astro's cut 'n' paste correctly, is it also possible he saw --- under granted credit and thought this meant 0? --- simply means it needs time or more data before making the decision of how much credit to grant, right folks?
    6820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Your Own Chinese Name Here! (Message 627300)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought he was related to KWSN Major Kong? :)
    6821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627298)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I never used to post much unless I had a problem with SETI that I could not iron out on my own. Now look at me ;-)))
    Lots of new friends. HIP-HIP Hooray!!!


    Well, you are exactly the sort of person I was meaning. Sept 7, 2000, 2 months before I joined up. We are both still here, must be a good reason.

    It can be like it was, I and my friends intend that to be....


    That's because we're SETI Supporters. :)
    6822) Message boards : Number crunching : All my computers are Stopped. (Message 627288)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, so the issue is with overclaiming, correct?
    I only installed optimized apps about a week ago.
    That said, several times beforehand, when just running regular old BOINC alone, I would see instances where what I claimed either received more or less granted credit.
    So, what's the issue? It's going to happen from time to time.
    6823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627198)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, we've got the link.
    Trust me. We've got the link.

    ...lots of links.

    Lots indeed.
    6824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627194)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7389
    6825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627191)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or an opthamaologist.
    6826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nostalgia (Message 627189)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, we've got the link.
    Trust me. We've got the link.
    6827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Your Own Chinese Name Here! (Message 627187)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Father of many?
    6828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627167)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    Ha ha, eat my shorts ;)


    I can't think of anything more disturbing than eating your shorts.

    Do they come with gravy?



    Eating his shorts with gravy?!

    I can't think of anything more disturbing than that!


    Ice's shorts are disturbing. :)
    6829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you think to this? (Message 627158)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, brokering peace deals is never a good idea. :)
    6830) Message boards : Number crunching : Nez to reach 1,000,000 RAC ? (Message 627153)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What are you talking about? My RAC has been on the rise for 8 days!


    Yes, but your's went down first just like everyone else.....his has just been going up and up and away......

    Although I'm sure you'll catch up with him in a few hundred years....;-)


    You did not ask why it went down.
    It was not for the same reason as everyone else.
    :)
    6831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you think to this? (Message 627145)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What do you think to this: Rudolf Hess suggested for Nobel Peace Price!

    Pssst! Thorin! It's priZe, not priCe. :)
    6832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 627144)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets sighting again!
    He now goes by Lin Xian du.

    LOL!
    6833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Your Own Chinese Name Here! (Message 627129)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    6834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My RAC doesn't need Viagra (Message 627126)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Could your recent average credit use some help?
    6835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 627124)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets sighting again!
    He now goes by Lin Xian du.
    6836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Your Own Chinese Name Here! (Message 627122)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No .., I was the one born in the Year of the Monkey.
    6837) Message boards : Number crunching : Nez to reach 1,000,000 RAC ? (Message 627111)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nez is about to break the 700,000 RAC barrier....

    The recent downturn in RAC doesn't seem to have affected him.

    Now taking bets....whether he'll cross the 1,000,000 RAC mark.

    I say by 30th September he will....;-)


    What are you talking about? My RAC has been on the rise for 8 days!
    6838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 627095)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump


    I wish I could join you, but I can't speak Formulese. :(

    Actually, it's all Geek to me!


    No formulas on this one necessarily.
    6839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 627092)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He said any time, not any thing.
    6840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 626901)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ahhh well at lease i can play a guitar...


    But you still can't tuna fish. :-)


    Boo!


    Thank you!!! Thank you!!! I'll be here all week. Try the veal!!!

    lol


    At the end of the universe? You can think of eating a time like this?
    6841) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626900)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It passed the comprehensive test.
    Looking at the screenshot again:

    [/quote]

    Looking at it when BOINC is not running, the last two listed are a little lower. I do hear the fan running. It seems weak. What's this Fan1 and Fan2, 0 RPM in the screenshot? If I hear the noise it should be greater than 0 RPM. If there's only one fan, why does it show Fan1, Fan2?
    6842) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Systray, Whats the Red Dot? (Message 626899)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, I've been using the older BOINC client up until now. (Which I believe didnt use RPC)

    I am sure I saw the red dot a fair number of times since originally installing BOINC a little over 2 years ago.
    My solution ... take it with a grain of salt ... has always been to exit then restart the BOINC Manager.
    My guess ... again, take with a grain of salt ... is it has to do with the order of programs booting up, making connections with the internet, so and so forth, all competing to get started!
    6843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 626892)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ahhh well at lease i can play a guitar...


    But you still can't tuna fish. :-)


    Boo!
    6844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why is earth life so boring to me? (Message 626882)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess it is b/c you are bored?

    Bingo, we have a winner.
    I agree with you Sarge

    Woo hoo!
    6845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you think to this? (Message 626874)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The threat is everywhere, even within ourselves.
    6846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : And the kitties know... (Message 626873)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kitties rule.
    6847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A poem (Message 626872)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only two poems?
    6848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oh no i've sold my soul for nothing again. (Message 626871)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guitar player thread?
    6849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Did we meet before? (Message 626870)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yes
    6850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Spiders (Message 626869)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally, I do not like spiders.
    6851) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 626868)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump
    6852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Would you know E.T. if you met him? (Message 626867)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yes
    6853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why is earth life so boring to me? (Message 626865)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess it is b/c you are bored?
    6854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 626864)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope it didn't rain.
    6855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 626863)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the one and only Rocky's!
    6856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626860)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lester, you are not allowed to discuss moderation. If you have a complaint, e-mail it to the setimods e-mail address at Berkeley.
    6857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Explore the sky with Google Earth 4.2 (Message 626851)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Fuzzy, If you are using Google Earth you can see the town I live in, just type in Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA. The quality is pretty good, not as good as previous versions, but still good.

    Know anyone there of the last name Zingg or Ward?
    6858) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626847)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I had already cleaned the fan as best as I could. 1-2 days before the SpeedFan test.


    Wow, ok, was that with the case open ? ...either way if there isn't obvious signs of rotation & blowing going on I'm still with Astro on the service thing... If there is rotation & blowing going on, no clogging, but no heat blowing out at full load, then restarts, I'd be back to questioning the sink/pipes integrity (heatpipes, if it has them, can leak all the gas out... hopes its not that)

    Oh I should note, The symptoms with those hard drives the machine spontaneously going to standby ...stuck until power disconnect...or possibly a reset... that's not what's happening is it ? [ HP compaq usually has a hard drive integrity tester in BIOS, If it passes the quick test but fails the comprehensive then you know [one of] your problem[s]. ]


    It passed the quick test; the comprehensive test is running now.
    6859) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626841)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another tip: Don't let "speedfan" control the fans, and open it just to check temps. It might work fine for fan control, but you never know. Temps will probably be list "temp 1" and "temp 2" and maybe "temp3" with no further explanation. Let's see what you see.

    Ummm, this does not look good ... at all [EDIT: BOINC is set at only 20% right now]:



    Looking at it when BOINC is not running, the last two listed are a little lower. I do hear the fan running. It seems weak. What's this Fan1 and Fan2, 0 RPM in the screenshot? If I hear the noise it should be greater than 0 RPM. If there's only one fan, why does it show Fan1, Fan2?
    I'm about to look into the BIOS stuff Jason brought up.
    6860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626837)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An advertiser receives payment for advertising. You do not.
    6861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626791)
    Posted 26 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where are going? Sailing?
    6862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 626721)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No

    But you're on BOINC Synergy!
    6863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 626717)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    6864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 626716)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody like music videos? :)
    6865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626715)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's a thread about nothing.

    Jerry = you
    George = me
    Kramer = Beets
    Elaine = Stacey Jane

    Newman = ... :)
    6866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 626642)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    x
    6867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626641)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Coast to Coast AM schedule airing @ 1am EST

    Live stream courtesy of KFI 640AM Los Angeles

    Coast to Coast AM affiliates in the USA, Canada and XM Satellite radio

    Click the links for Beets updates! :)
    6868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 626636)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks KB7RZF, Sarge. Let's see what we can make of this:


    Copyright (c) 2007 Mike Swift


    "Never kiss a Viking on the amusement park cups --- You'd think they'd have strong stomachs from all that sailing --- but NO!!!"
    6869) Message boards : Number crunching : Hiding the Boinc icon (Message 626602)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No. boinc.exe and boincmgr.exe, but that's normal, right?
    And it should not matter that there's hyperthreading, so that I crunch 2 WUs at the same time. Right?
    Usually, I just let the 2 icons sit there and say to myself, it's stupid for 2 to show up, lol.
    Once or twice I have exited one of them, so that I only see one icon.
    6870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Would you know E.T. if you met him? (Message 626597)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    20/200?
    6871) Message boards : Number crunching : Hiding the Boinc icon (Message 626595)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, as I said, this is a new laptop to me and it had been wiped clean.
    I've only had it about a week, so, no, no upgrades of BOINC yet.
    I merely point it out as an oddity.
    6872) Message boards : Number crunching : Hiding the Boinc icon (Message 626587)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At each reboot, I get TWO BOINC manager icons.
    Windows XP.
    I just installed BOINC on this one approximately one week ago and I thought I did set it as "service," not "single user."

    You may not have uninstalled the first installation, so Boinc may still be in your start menu, and it may be starting both as a service and again as an application.

    Not the case here. I did not have possession of the laptop before and the IT folks "re-imaged" it ... wiped it clean ... before it was handed to me.
    6873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626580)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - I hope that telegram was not via Western Union! :)
    6874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626579)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I received personal communication from Beets form an undisclosed location this morning via telegram.


    All is well :)


    *wink*


    This reporter is currently seeking multiple methods for making Beets contact outside this forum, so that updates may be more quick and accurate.
    6875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 626575)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump!
    6876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 626573)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, all of these were good. Thanks for the good laughs. But the time has come to choose a winner, and it is.............

    Michael Roberts! That one just fits great!!

    On to you sir!


    Congrats, MR!
    6877) Message boards : Number crunching : Hiding the Boinc icon (Message 626572)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At each reboot, I get TWO BOINC manager icons.
    Windows XP.
    I just installed BOINC on this one approximately one week ago and I thought I did set it as "service," not "single user."
    6878) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 626568)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=148478902

    At least for me, this is a new record for granted credit, 109.12.


    I also saw a 109.12 in my list, I believe.
    [Edit: I guess I imagined it, but there's one sort of close.]


    It could have disappeared overnight Sarge. About half of my finished results were purged overnight.


    I considered that possibility as well.
    6879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626494)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's nice to know we have a doctor in the house.

    Really, Chris, "Dr. Maharushie" is just far too formal. 8^]


    OK, whats up doc?


    Doc Sarge?


    Sh!


    Huntin' wabbits?
    6880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626488)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's nice to know we have a doctor in the house.

    Really, Chris, "Dr. Maharushie" is just far too formal. 8^]


    OK, whats up doc?


    Doc Sarge?
    6881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626486)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Shouldn't you be Maha, then?

    It's a cultural thing.

    I'll ask Sriram about it. :)
    6882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626483)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's nice to know we have a doctor in the house.

    Really, Chris, "Dr. Maharushie" is just far too formal. 8^]

    LOL!
    SHouldn't you by Maha, then?
    6883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626475)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The point is, the link is to information that changes every day. It is only externally that it appears the same. :)

    Ah, so you do understand that it is the exact same post every day. That's called bumping. That the information at the other sites changes wasn't the point.

    I haven't examined the links, though that would be easy to do.
    I do find this different than, say, some of the stuff in Team Recruitment. Different because, again, his post looks the same every day and it is probably even the same page linked, but the contents at the linked site are changing every day.
    Now I suppose I would have to go the Team Recruitment forum and actually see what links, if any, show in the repeated posts there. (If it were up to me, I'd post a link to the Berkeley page where one can read the team description and press the button to join if they wish.)
    6884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 626470)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bavarian?
    6885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626467)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It seems doubtful, but could Rush be applying reverse psychology here? (A conspiracy?) Is he trying to get KM to go back to the previous approach; to ignore the cries that it was spamming? Stay tuned!
    6886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626463)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah well. Take it up with the mods.

    Of course not.

    I was told that my copy and paste was being considered " spam ".

    That's ludicrous as well.

    So now I get to post the same thing over and over.....seems like THAT is spam more than what I was doing before.

    Yep. It's called bumping either way.

    * edit * Oh by the way. I am NOT " bumping " the thread.

    Yes, you are, by posting the exact same thing every day.

    I am actually posting the show schedule. So the bump doesn't apply * edit *

    "Actually posting the show schedule" would be a different post each day, noting the guest and topics like you (whoever) used to do. Which was useful.


    The point is, the link is to information that changes every day. It is only externally that it appears the same. :)
    6887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626462)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Coast to Coast AM schedule airing @ 1am EST

    Live stream courtesy of KFI 640AM Los Angeles

    Coast to Coast AM affiliates in the USA, Canada and XM Satellite radio



    eh KM - hopE you'rE 'avin' a Great Day Sir!!!

    btw - thE *links* 'bovE aRe thE 'corrECt' onE's for Today - RIGHT? i wouldn't want to bE buMpin' OLD NEWS 'ErE . . .


    Wouldn't they be for last night's show?
    6888) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 626459)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=148478902

    At least for me, this is a new record for granted credit, 109.12.


    I also saw a 109.12 in my list, I believe.
    [Edit: I guess I imagined it, but there's one sort of close.]
    6889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626456)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . hm - bE rEal FUNNY - IF - everybody Created a Thread aka 'Where's _ _ _ _?' (EaCh with thEir 'individual naME)

    Now - would THAT bE considErEd 'spammin' ?

    runs & duCks 4 CovEr . . . ;))


    Don't give them any ideas!
    Ladies and gentlemen, while this reporter rested, many more Beets spottings were made by other observers and e-mails flooded my e-mail box overnight. These e-mails indicated Beets made several posts, that he is alive and well and isn't letting "The MAN" get him down. More updates as we have them.
    6890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 626446)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeebus, Rush! You're a smart guy. Why is this an issue?
    6891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 626240)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm thinking on this "over-qualified" idea.
    I'll post on it if I think I have something worthwhile to contribute.
    6892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 626230)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My dad worked until he was 57 then he died of cancer. That was over thirty years ago. I have had several job interviews in which I was told that I was 'over qualified', and then they hired someone who was about 20 years younger than me. I thought there was no more age discrimination Ha Ha Ha Ha!

    That sucks, Robert. :(
    6893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 626211)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've got a neat idea. When I leave for vacation tomorrow, I'll post & no one posts after me. That would give me 1 week of winning. Do you think that'll work?

    It'll work.
    6894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 626210)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ladies and gentlemen, there have been a few Beets sightings tonight.
    Reports are sketchy.
    Some say he wizzed thru here like a faux UFO, but The Canadian Air Force, run by Doug, who used to work at a hockey stick manufacturing factory, will neither confirm nor deny such theories.
    6895) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626207)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I had already cleaned the fan as best as I could. 1-2 days before the SpeedFan test.


    Wow, ok, was that with the case open ? ...either way if there isn't obvious signs of rotation & blowing going on I'm still with Astro on the service thing... If there is rotation & blowing going on, no clogging, but no heat blowing out at full load, then restarts, I'd be back to questioning the sink/pipes integrity (heatpipes, if it has them, can leak all the gas out... hopes its not that)

    Oh I should note, The symptoms with those hard drives the machine spontaneously going to standby ...stuck until power disconnect...or possibly a reset... that's not what's happening is it ? [ HP compaq usually has a hard drive integrity tester in BIOS, If it passes the quick test but fails the comprehensive then you know [one of] your problem[s]. ]


    Jason: case open.
    Astro: possible that something was not connected when put back together, yes.
    Jason: it's been turned off for now. Tomorrow I'll turn it on briefly, turn the TV off, the room fan, etc. ... and look and listen for what the laptop fan may or may not be doing.
    This tester in BIOS: sounds like hitting F10 or F12 before Windows boots if I am going to run that?
    6896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 626158)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    you have some lucky fathers there...
    to have work in an age when other people get retired...

    On several of my last job interviews I've been told to be too old for the job I applied for, though I'm not even 40!


    Unless one is in poor physical health or not sharp minded, why the heck are people retiring earlier than 65 these days? Are so many ppl independently wealthy now and I missed it?
    6897) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 626157)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Umm... Doesn't this pic already have a caption??? ;)

    Quit applying blatant logic, Jeffery. :)
    6898) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626154)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Jason, it's an HP zv5434rs. HP bought out Compaq, correcy?

    Correct, and I wouldn't trust the sensors too much, but go by performance indicators as Astro is.

    There are some good things in what you've mentioned.... heat 'oozing' out the back means the heatpipes/spreader is [more than likely] ok & contacting the CPU properly, so it's probably just the fan obstructed / clogged.

    The HP/Compaq you mention should be able to sustain 100% for quite some time (probably indefinitely) if not clogged. At 20 to 30% it should be pretty much stone cold ... I used to play Halo on a nearly identical model while transcoding video.


    I had already cleaned the fan as best as I could. 1-2 days before the SpeedFan test.
    6899) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626107)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shouldn't be hard to get a screenshot of Boinc NOT running. LOL, just kidding.

    True, msattler, if you cannot get WUs, but I haven't had that problem for a while.
    But, I meant to see if we could see a difference and make extra sure it is failure of the fan and not BOINC.

    Probably okay, otherwise it would shut down (like it does for you after time)...
    Is it one of these Compaq jobs with no temperature sensor ? that would fit the timeframe + hard drive combo.


    Jason, it's an HP zv5434rs. HP bought out Compaq, correcy?

    I can't speak for your plan or how you've treated the notebook. In these people's case it was covered, until the service plan ran out a few months before they went... I think they were pretty hard on the notebook though (dropped a few times maybe) First thing I did was check toshiba's hard drive site .. 'Check with your Vendor for warranty'... a bit different to other hard drive manufacturers i guess.

    Jason, by vendor, I meant where I bought it, not the manufacturer. They did some work for me for free back in February. (Actually, it did get dropped once, near Christmas 2005, due to my porch being slippery.)

    Sarge, are you saying you DON'T feel air coming out of any of the orifices of the machine? If you, you're fan has failed. Get immediate medical attention, especially if you have a warranty. Nothing you can buy for external air supply to help with cooling will do enough to save your laptop.
    If it's really 102C then you'd have a hard time keeping your hands on parts of the laptop/notebook. I.E If you feel it's hot, in spots, and there's no fan. I'd shut it down until repairs can be made. Most desktop processor have a thermal FAILURE of 120C or so. Some laptops have higher failure temps but you're looks to be failing due to no fan.

    It was close to finishing a WU, so I let it take a few more minutes to finish and report. I now have that laptop shut down.
    Astro, I feel hot air from the back, more like it's oozing out, not blowing out.
    Now, what I had been doing before was running my hands along edges around the keyboard. It usually feels warmer in the back, near the monitor.
    However, I picked it up while I was waiting for responses from you guys and, what do you know, a portion of the bottom was hot. I had to move my hand away quickly.
    6900) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626090)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another possiblilty is a laptop cooler. This is basically a platform with some fans that circulate air across the bottom of the laptop.

    Thanks, John. I've considered that.
    Sorry, guys, I never got around to checking this last night. Soon. I'll report back.


    eh Sarge - find the 'NOTEPAL' by Cooler Master Designed for HD WIDESCREEN Systems . . .

    works w/ 2 turbos in the back / underside of laptop USB - for mi - WORKS great

    google 4 link ;)



    These external platforms ... can they work as effectively as internal fans? Meaning, if I get one of the external laptop cooler platforms, am I still going to have to replace the internal fan?
    Regarding cost, which is more expensive, the internal fan or the external cooler? I thought I saw the external cooler for $30-$40 (USD) ... ?
    6901) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626088)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should I get a similar screen shot from when BOINC is not running?
    6902) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626087)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL... duh, i think your fan's stopped :P

    That's what I am afraid of.


    [ Can you feel hot air blowing out ?]

    well, while you're getting that fixed ... I'll let you know that I've replaced about 4 of those toshiba 60 gig drives in the last month (for other people in my area), all failed just out of warranty of the notebook. Some were replaced with seagate and some with hitachi...[ So maybe while you're there...].


    Not blowing, really ... but I do feel the heat.
    I've had this thing since May 2005. I have an extended service plan that should last another year thru the vendor. I wonder if this is covered?
    6903) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626086)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have had speedfan give erroneous results on some of the OCing forums I've been on......and for God's sake, do not let it try to control your fan speeds.

    I exited the program immediately after taking the screen shot.
    6904) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626080)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL... duh, i think your fan's stopped :P

    That's what I am afraid of.
    6905) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 626075)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another tip: Don't let "speedfan" control the fans, and open it just to check temps. It might work fine for fan control, but you never know. Temps will probably be list "temp 1" and "temp 2" and maybe "temp3" with no further explanation. Let's see what you see.

    Ummm, this does not look good ... at all [EDIT: BOINC is set at only 20% right now]:

    6906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 626066)
    Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    5. The red-headed nurse will see you now.

    Olga is a red head?

    Who said it was Olga?
    6907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 626053)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, BOTD was set up so that I could have a date every weekend. ;)
    If only Misfit knew all the PMs I've sent to the lovely ladies he's brought to my attention. ;)


    Pfffft


    I have a 76.2% success rate with responses. With those responses, a 69% success rate in getting dates! Nice, huh?

    :P
    6908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you think to this? (Message 625995)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, I remember 1969. I was 1.
    Clearer memories, about family and locations, begin in 1971.
    Of national events ... remembering long gas lines and Nixon's resignation.
    6909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 625893)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to SKYPE! :)
    6910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 625888)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "White City"? Do you mean the "Ships of Light"?
    6911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 625879)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/NEWS/tricia-helfer-n6.jpg
    6912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 625875)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, write up the article explaining why it was His fault. :)
    6913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 625873)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Lord, we got to get you a woman.......

    Didn't we already talk about this? :)

    Bring the striper.

    Candy striper?
    Stryper, the awful Christian metal band?
    6914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 625866)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Lord, we got to get you a woman.......

    Didn't we already talk about this? :)
    6915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 625861)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/08227002_11_godskype.shtml.
    Conspiracy?
    :)
    6916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 625860)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump
    6917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the photography thread II (Message 625853)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, my!
    6918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625841)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Office.
    6919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625807)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, BOTD was set up so that I could have a date every weekend. ;)
    If only Misfit knew all the PMs I've sent to the lovely ladies he's brought to my attention. ;)


    Pfffft


    I have a 76.2% success rate with responses. With those responses, a 69% success rate in getting dates! Nice, huh?
    6920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625803)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, BOTD was set up so that I could have a date every weekend. ;)
    If only Misfit knew all the PMs I've sent to the lovely ladies he's brought to my attention. ;)
    6921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625802)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, my. LOL. Never was a cigar man. KM can vouch for that!
    6922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625795)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the states, I don't think southerners ever try to sound northern. But you'd be surprised at a few imitations and accents I can pull off. :)


    No no no no I wouldn't, honest!!!


    Perhaps I'll record my imitation of Bill Clinton and post it somewhere. :)
    6923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625794)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then again, maybe I could pay a visit around Christmas time?
    Or ... are you a coffee drinker, MB? Around that same time, we could hit a coffee shop in a mutually convenient DC spot?


    I enjoy nothing more than meeting friends at coffee shops for lunch and some talk. Once a week we locals gather at this coffee shop in Georgetown and talk politics. Which reminds me, I havn't been in a few weeks.


    Well, I don't know how well I could keep up on political discussions. My observations are, unfortunately, too limited. So, I can only apply a little of what I think is logical to a small sample.

    On the other hand, I could entertain with vocal imitations of past Presidential candidates. :)
    6924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625786)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then again, maybe I could pay a visit around Christmas time?
    Or ... are you a coffee drinker, MB? Around that same time, we could hit a coffee shop in a mutually convenient DC spot?
    6925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625784)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What'll happen now is that that kid's parents will continue to have more children. Money donated will be used to support those extra new children instead of helping the burnt child.

    Let's see: if those organizing/administrating the donation pay directly to an airline company for a round-trip ticket ... and the remainder of the money goes to the doctor(s) performing plastic surgery or whatever it is he/she/they will do ... your gloom and doom scenario occurs how?
    Clyde, I cannot recall ever seeing a disagreeable post from you; I hope this one does not reflect some hidden bias.
    6926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625775)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I.E., he is essentially with the same organization, but at a different location within the same geographic region ... and I believe at a higher level of administration?
    6927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625774)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My father e-mailed me this morning to tell me he is taking on a new job in Washington, DC. At the moment, I think it is a vertical move. And he's 67. ROCK ON!


    Ahh cool, I work in DC also, live in White Plains.


    If he has any questions at all about the area give him my contact info. i will be more than happy to answer questions and or look things up for him :)


    Actually, he's been in the area since 1997. His brother, also known as my uncle (lol), has been in the area since about 1982.
    6928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 625769)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phew, then I don't have to use this emoticon to you. ;-P





    Please don't, then he might.....


    This quadruple reverse psychiatry is driving me sane!


    Jumping Jehosaphats!

    It works......

    1. Can I patent it?
    2. Can I bottle it?
    3. Is it stable at boiling point?
    4. Is it compatible with Viagara?
    5. Is that a nice man with a white coat?


    1. Yes, W. Axl Rose will sing "Patience" (which may sound like "patients.")
    2. If you can bottle water ... .
    3. Yes.
    4. It is indeed compatible with Viagara Falls. (Where is all that water rushing off to?)
    5. The red-headed nurse will see you now.
    6929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625750)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the states, I don't think southerners ever try to sound northern. But you'd be surprised at a few imitations and accents I can pull off. :)
    6930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 625747)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phew, then I don't have to use this emoticon to you. ;-P





    Please don't, then he might.....


    This quadruple reverse psychiatry is driving me sane!
    6931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625745)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YEAH!

    Actually, if he like rock/metal, I'd send him your sig, Al.
    6932) Message boards : Number crunching : Jobs restarting, with longer time to completion (Message 625736)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It sounds like a checkpointing problem, and no, I haven't heard anyone else seeing (or at least, reporting) anything like this. We know that the 'Splitsville' WUs (the 2.5% with impossibly low treshholds) wouldn't checkpoint, but they only showed %age complete in the 0.0x% range.

    As a temporary workround, if you're prepared to run the machine like this, you could set 'Leave applications in memory while suspended?' to Yes: provided you didn't have to restart BOINC for any reason, the WUs would then crunch to completion without having to rely on a checkpoint file.

    Then, once you've uploaded and reported the WUs which have been struggling to date, we can look in <stderr_txt> and see if there are any messages about checkpointing to help the next person who asks.


    Bill and Richard: Yes, I have had one SETI WU act like this. There is another BOINC project where something similar can happen quite often. (I do not recall which project, since I am back to only running SETI@Home for the time being.)
    As someone who has only asked or suggested a few things in this forum, I ask the following hesitantly: what about just aborting the WU?
    6933) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 625732)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another possiblilty is a laptop cooler. This is basically a platform with some fans that circulate air across the bottom of the laptop.

    Thanks, John. I've considered that.
    Sorry, guys, I never got around to checking this last night. Soon. I'll report back.
    6934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625684)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, which trustworthy person/people could deal with the donations idea mentioned by cRunchy?

    You.


    Then I'd have to do it all in three days.


    That's OK. 3 days are enough.

    By the way I was serious.

    It doesn't matter who is in control. All that matters is that we matter.


    It was just a thought.


    I would think that if it were to occur in three short days, it should be someone well-versed in using PayPal for making and receiving payments. And it still has to be someone trustworthy.
    6935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New (Message 625644)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My father e-mailed me this morning to tell me he is taking on a new job in Washington, DC. At the moment, I think it is a vertical move. And he's 67. ROCK ON!
    6936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625635)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, which trustworthy person/people could deal with the donations idea mentioned by cRunchy?


    You.


    Then I'd have to do it all in three days.
    6937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625626)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Never mind all that, just pass me another beer

    Chris and Ice's picture: a cat.
    Leinenkugel's: have no fear.
    6938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625621)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, which trustworthy person/people could deal with the donations idea mentioned by cRunchy?
    6939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 625618)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've passed this way.
    Sometimes I stay
    a while,
    before I go another mile.
    6940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625606)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, no. First, we were there to get rid of those WMDs. THEN we started being told we were there to liberate them. (No, Big Brother Media has not rewritten my memory.)


    I'm hoping to keep this discussion about the article and my hope is that some of you will feel compelled to help out...I am hoping this thread doesn't turn into a war debate....mostly because I don't want it moved into "Politics".


    Good point, MB. [Points at Ice ... he brought it up first!] I have to wait a month before I could donate. Darn: SETI or Youssif?
    6941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Please Help This Child (Message 625590)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, no. First, we were there to get rid of those WMDs. THEN we started being told we were there to liberate them. (No, Big Brother Media has not rewritten my memory.)
    6942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI's July/August '07 Movie Reviews: (Message 625587)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm going out on a limb and calling this one a winner before it comes out:

    Sunshine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNZwrgFo3GE

    Director: Danny Boyle
    Writer: Alex Garland
    Release Date: 27 July 2007 (USA) more view trailer

    Genre: Adventure / Sci-Fi / Thriller

    Tagline: If the sun dies, so do we.

    Plot Outline: A team of astronauts are sent to re-ignite the dying sun. 50 years into the future.


    Maybe, but even though I haven't seen it yet, isn't it similar to "Armagaeddon"

    Can't Hollywood come up with original plots?


    I guess you'd have to see it, as well as Armageddon.
    I am going for a record: waiting the longest to see Armageddon.
    6943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 30 (Message 625346)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh pooty..

    Im not supposed to be here in this thread because I don't have a number but if I wanted to give you folks a song would I be wrong?

    I love Nelly Furtado so here's a song from her to you:

    Forca




    I wish she was just a bird again.
    6944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 625271)
    Posted 24 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many times are you going to post that same message?

    I AM with Rush on this one ! AGAIN ! When when u all acknowledge Rush as our logic master ? We are all primorial ooz reaching up a tendril for salvation hoping we are worthy of his salvation

    D'oh!

    Jeebus!
    6945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A poem (Message 625195)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Artist: Queensryche
    Album: Promised Land
    Title: My Global Mind

        There's hunger in africa,
        And anger on assembly lines.
        At the touch of a button
        I'm miles away.
        I want no connection, just information,
        And i'm gone.
    
        I feel so helpless,
        So i turn my gaze to another place.
    
        My global mind reaches out for the truth.
    
        Why try holding back the wave?
        You'll only drown in the changes.
        You've got to learn to let go.
        Just let go and experience the flight.
        Try to see from a different side..
        If balance is the key
        Maybe we'll see
        A future understanding,
    
        Then we won't feel so helpless,
        An turn away and hide from the change.
    
        My global mind searches for something new.
        My global mind zeros in on news.
    
        Time and rules are changing.
        Attention span is quickening.
        Welcome to the information age.
    
        I feel so helpless,
        So i turn my gaze to another place.
    
        My global mind searches for something new.
        My global mind zeros in on news.
        My global mind reaches out for the truth.
        My global mind zeros in on you.
    
        It's searching everywhere,
        Across the mountains,
        Across the oceans,
        Across every man made line.
        No boundary gonna keep it from you.
    6946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 625149)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    well, I tried around a bit. If I'm right, it could be possible to solve this in Euclidean geometry. But: only if the segment PB is equal to the segment BC, and the segment AP is equal to the segment PC.

    Work on it some more and elaborate.
    If that case works, then you'd either have to show that is the only case or work out what other sets of conditions also work.
    By the way, feel free to look up definitions, axioms and theorems in books or online. I doubt you'd find this problem posted elsewhere, but please do not look for it. :)
    6947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 625124)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let ABC be a triangle and P a point on the segment AB. P is distinct from A and B. Is it possible for the two sub-triangles APC and BPC to be isosceles? Under what conditions? How do you know?

    well it's possible that either APC or BPC are isosceles, but not both sub-triangles at the same time - well, except if ABC, APC, and BPC are spheric triangles.

    What do you mean by "spheric"?
    How do you know that (otherwise) it is impossible?

    with "spheric" I mean: being on the surface of a globe.

    I'd call that elliptical geometry.
    Anyway, in Euclidean geometry, how do you know it's impossible?
    6948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 625121)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or walk away, leaving people to reflect on your words?


    Now now sarge, don't confuse the poor boy!


    I doubt I have ever confused Rush, just agreed or disagreed with him.
    6949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 625118)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let ABC be a triangle and P a point on the segment AB. P is distinct from A and B. Is it possible for the two sub-triangles APC and BPC to be isosceles? Under what conditions? How do you know?

    well it's possible that either APC or BPC are isosceles, but not both sub-triangles at the same time - well, except if ABC, APC, and BPC are spheric triangles.

    What do you mean by "spheric"?
    How do you know that (otherwise) it is impossible?
    6950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 625095)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Patrick,

    I'll have a fiver bet with you that you will think differently in 3 months time.



    I would agree with Chris

    Ah, two more bits of wisdom and brilliance! It's almost like they're saying nothing whatsoever at all, except that, well, ummmm, except that... except that, uh, well, sorry. Except that nothing. They are saying nothing at all.

    Maybe here is where I should start whining about how my thread wasn't what I intended and then I should start red x'ing posts?


    Or walk away, leaving people to reflect on your words?
    6951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 625084)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The info that came with mine talked about sharing files between the computers connected to it. I am going to guess, while away from home, that I can see other computers on the 'network' listed under "My Computer"?



    only if they are on the same sub net and in the same workgroup.

    You mean the shared folders that you set up between your machiens at home on your network? No. Once you are off your network you won;t be able to see those machines anymore.


    No, I mean when both machines are hooked into the router while I am at home.
    But, if I am correct, I think you pointed out something that would need to be done: I would have to specify which folders can be shared ... ?


    Yes. You have to actually go onto each machine and share it out on your subnet. However, when you go on the road to say, for example, a hotel, you will not be able to see those shared files (because you are outside of your subnet).


    Thanks, Michael.
    6952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 625079)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The info that came with mine talked about sharing files between the computers connected to it. I am going to guess, while away from home, that I can see other computers on the 'network' listed under "My Computer"?



    only if they are on the same sub net and in the same workgroup.

    You mean the shared folders that you set up between your machiens at home on your network? No. Once you are off your network you won;t be able to see those machines anymore.


    No, I mean when both machines are hooked into the router while I am at home.
    But, if I am correct, I think you pointed out something that would need to be done: I would have to specify which folders can be shared ... ?
    6953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 625047)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The info that came with mine talked about sharing files between the computers connected to it. I am going to guess, while away from home, that I can see other computers on the 'network' listed under "My Computer"?
    6954) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 625030)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks. The other laptop is at home. I'll try to test this in a few hours.
    6955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624991)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you all. I'd also like to thank the Academy...Oh wait, wrong speech. ;)



    Wise-guy! :P
    6956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome to the Canadian Cafe! (Message 624986)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I lost my map.
    6957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome to the Canadian Cafe! (Message 624981)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Canadian Cafe will have one member absent.

    They ALL come back sooner or later.

    To "Cheyenne" Wyoming?
    6958) Message boards : Number crunching : Q? for Astro or other helpers (Message 624980)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Astro, I am now working with two laptops. I wound up cleaning out the fan on the older one, as we discussed a while back. Even with BOINC running at 25-30%, there's still some issue with the laptop spontaneously shutting down. Yes, I do have the most recent main version of BOINC, as shown 2-3 days ago, installed.
    You'd mentioned something to download about a speed test of the fan? Somehow, my bookmarks got wiped out recently, so maybe you could provide the link again? If not, hopefully I can phrase a web search well enough to hunt it down easily.
    Thanks!
    6959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome to the Canadian Cafe! (Message 624976)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Canadian Cafe will have one member absent.
    6960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Non-Farewell Thread (Message 624974)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... SNIP ...
    "I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.


    I'm trying to understand what you are saying.

    Are you saying that KenzieB (or anyone) was banned because she was Red X'ed by some of those who now offer her their best wishes?

    That would be hypocrisy if it were true.

    Did I misunderstand you?


    You did not misunderstand him.
    Rush, when did people ask for the red-X option? It has been present for as long as I can remember during my time posting. I take issue with calling the red-X a way for posters to control other posters. Do you include in this something such as "Look, if my very similar post got moderated, then this one should not remain, either"? That "similar post" could be from anybody: friend, foe or stranger.
    What about red-X'ing your own post? Or the fact that kenzieB asked for her posts to be red-X'd? This does not fall under one poster exercising control over another. If anything, it might indicate one poster failing, temporarily, to exercise self-control.
    6961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 624961)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let ABC be a triangle and P a point on the segment AB. P is distinct from A and B. Is it possible for the two sub-triangles APC and BPC to be isosceles? Under what conditions? How do you know?
    6962) Message boards : Politics : Arbitrators Required (Message 624954)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh no, Mike, that would mean the project would lose face and we can't have that, can we?

    No ... the forum associated with the project might. Once again, the strong links between the project and the forums many of us, or the public that reads but does not crunch or post, make are just that: too strong.
    6963) Message boards : Politics : Arbitrators Required (Message 624952)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I actually know that my English isn't bad, but I'm in constant fear of saying something that I didn't intend to say... That happens quite frequently to me, even in my native language...

    Unfortunately, I think that I don't have the time for moderating a forum (anymore). Maybe, I will even have to give up my own forum soon.


    Understood. If you change your mind, tell us and we'll let you know how to contact an administrator for offering your services.
    6964) Message boards : Politics : Arbitrators Required (Message 624935)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I am a forum administrator myself, I have to say that moderators are arbitrators only in theory. In practice however, many moderators tend to play with their "power", most often not realizing their own mistakes.
    I have implemented several ways of arbitration in my own forum, but they, too, are not perfect, since arbiters also make mistakes and arbitration is quite difficult on a scale like this. It works pretty well at my forum (where I usually handle arbitration), but it is of much smaller size.

    I can, however, imagine, that important moderator decisions (e.g. bans) be discussed publicly before they are applied.

    I'd probably volunteer, but I think I'm not yet very familiar with these boards and its users and, to tell the truth, I'm also a little bit reluctant to use the English language.


    I understood everything you said here. I also just read your profile. Again, I understood everything. Furthermore, reading somewhat quickly, I do not see any errors in either place. So, maybe you do not need to be so reluctant? We have several moderators from countries where English is not the primary language. If this has helped ease your reluctance some, would you really be willing to offer your services by joining the moderator team? (Note: you will need to have enough time.)
    6965) Message boards : Politics : Arbitrators Required (Message 624912)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    shouldn't moderators be kind of arbitrators themselves?

    Well, I also volunteer :)


    It was my original understanding that on a forum such as this, the two terms were to be virtually synonymous. (Rush, any objections to the theoretical idea?)
    I do not volunteer.
    6966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624909)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just like many others, she's said she wasn't going to be back before... And then she came back. I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

    Maybe. Useless to speculate? Also, to John C., no, I don't think she was looking for excuses to move to other projects (I thought Dune told us she'd uninstalled BOINC?) nor planned for some time to go out with a bang.
    6967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624887)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Triumph: Follow Your Heart.


    Heart dont belong to a fora.

    Believe it or not.

    You will see.


    It is simply a song, Mike. I posted it only because of the phrase Dennis used.
    6968) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624880)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Triumph: Follow Your Heart.
    6969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624874)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Farewell KenzieB...follow your heart...

    Interesting. Follow Your Heart is the name of a song by a Canadian band.
    6970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624866)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now sent.
    6971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 624852)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We'll keep this thread open for regular Beets updates. :)
    6972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624850)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last month, I started a thread on a forum which to me, was polite, requesting info on an o/s matter. On my next visit to the forum, I saw that my thread was closed. On reading the closure post, I was well P****d as I thought it totally ridiculous. I logged off the site straight away.

    After several hours, I logged back on & re-read my post. On thinking about it, I realised that it was ambiguous & posted a reply to the FORUM MANAGER who had closed the thread, explaining what I requested. Matter resolved.

    The point being made: -

    That forum had Moderators, Forum Managers, & Administrators. As the forum is 24/7, any problems crop up & the thread is instantly closed.

    I have yet to see Administrators or forum Managers on this site.

    I feel that THEY ARE NEEDED!!!


    BRING BACK KenzieB!!!!!


    See the Technical News Forum for admin presence. Remember, the admins are the very scientists behind SETI and, if I have understood correctly, much of BOINC.

    (P.S. - as for 24/7, at the time kenzieB requested her thread be closed and before she blew up, one that could have handled the situation ... well, CC ... Denny's Restaurant ... Flash Chat ignore messages. Thanks for all that, since, of course, kenzie's matter did eventually got resolved.)
    6973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624840)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . hErEby Thanking You LabbiE, for ALL Your AssistanCE in thE NC FORUMS

    < YOU, Sir, DESeRVeD eVeRY VOTE . . . CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AGAIN . . .





    "Posters helping posters."
    6974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624839)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!

    Well it's about time you had some Michelob then.

    I'm into the "reds" right now.

    The reds?

    Killian's and some mid-western brand I found about 2 months ago that starts with an L.

    Ah...The famous L beer.

    Leifenheigerpfleugel or something like that. :)

    With a name like that...It's just gotta be good.

    OK, Leigenkugel is much closer to the actual brand name.
    6975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624821)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Both UOTD and in "The 30"!!!
    6976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : the photography thread II (Message 624811)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice, Mike! How tall are the towers?
    6977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624810)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did see what was posted. Someone else got a screenshot.
    As for length of bans? Well, I know some have done MUCH worse than me and then had a ban lifted after 2 or 3 days while I served the full time.
    Marzipan vs. inject humor to defuse a hot debate?
    6978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 624799)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many times are you going to post that same message?


    It's not the same message ( technically speaking ) because the Coast to Coast link changes every night.

    It was " suggested " that I do it this way because my posts were beginning to be considered " spam " when I was posting the show schedule manually.

    Sorry folks.


    All things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one ... ?
    6979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Fond Farewell (Message 624797)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cRunchy, I will probably catch flak for this, but ... . There are one or two posts that clearly were over the line. Obviously, we cannot share those with you on the forum. For one, re-posting certain words would almost guarantee the "re-poster" getting banned as well.
    However, what should be considered is what led up to it. My guess is that there were factors in her life followed by some typical issues on this forum which combined explosively.
    6980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 624764)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It still looks good in the wrapper.

    I solved it in zero moves!!!


    :D


    Ha ha ha!
    6981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624649)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    6982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624647)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!

    Well it's about time you had some Michelob then.

    I'm into the "reds" right now.

    The reds?

    Killian's and some mid-western brand I found about 2 months ago that starts with an L.

    Ah...The famous L beer.

    Leifenheigerpfleugel or something like that. :)

    With a name like that...It's just gotta be good.

    OK, Leigenkugel is much closer.
    6983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 624636)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bought a cube today...

    $10.99

    :0


    Frustrated yet? :)
    6984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 624626)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BEFSR41. But, everything seems fine now.
    It got caught in a feedback loop about their stupid password.
    6985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 624623)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, everything is sorted out now.
    Two laptops on the net, both running BOINC, with optimized apps for SETI! :)
    6986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Non-SETI related technical issues (Message 624614)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, I am waiting, on hold, on Linksys' 800 number.
    Obviously, I've been able to connect to the internet. I'm trying to find out why towards the end of the installation process it keeps askimg me for a password and ... every time ... it repeats its test of my settings.
    I also want to find out if I also have to run the installation on my other computer. The CD drive on the other computer is messsed up. :(
    Anyone have suggestions while I wait on the phone, on hold?
    6987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624613)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm UOTD today, so I WIN!!!!

    Labbie...If you drive out to Berkeley you can pick up your winnings...An SAH T-shirt and coffee mug.

    Less of a drive for him then some.

    With the price of gas these days...It pays to be close to Berkeley so you don't have so far to drive for your SAH T-shirt and coffee mug that you get for being UOTD.

    Remember Bush campaign ads from 2000? "If Al Gore is elected, Americans really will be ... 'gored' ... at the pump."
    6988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624606)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm UOTD today, so I WIN!!!!

    Labbie...If you drive out to Berkeley you can pick up your winnings...An SAH T-shirt and coffee mug.

    Less of a drive for him then some.
    6989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624592)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm UOTD today, so I WIN!!!!

    LOL!
    6990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : found on my Blogdrive (Message 624566)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't say if it was him or not... I don't know.

    I am 99.44% certain. PM him and ask?
    6991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : found on my Blogdrive (Message 624564)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know which Jim S it is...

    Jim_S.
    6992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624561)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you all, but how in the HELL did I get UOTD? Just my turn? ;)

    See my explanation in the Number Crunching forum :)
    6993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : found on my Blogdrive (Message 624559)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know which Jim S it is... I had posted the content of the post he made on my blog- hoping whoever it was would recognize his own words- and get my Thank you- but my message has vanished.

    Disappeared? (If you wish to elaborate, please do so at the CC board.)
    6994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624557)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He tries so hard. A for effort? :)
    6995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624555)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your very welcome Dan.

    Cody just wants to win for once. :)
    6996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624554)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go get them Labbie.

    What's with that RAC, Cody? You stole Red Atomic's number! :)
    6997) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 624548)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I concluded Astro was right a while back and that the fan needed cleaning. A neighbor provided a screwdriver of the right size. That way, I could get closer when using the canned air. For the moment, I've set BOINC Manager to use a very low percentage of the CPU time. My plan, if I can be patient so I can see what goes on, is to go up by 10% each day until either I am at 100% or I see a breaking point where it starts overheating again and spontaneously shuts down.
    6998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624547)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Labbie's been active and helpful in the Number Crunching forum. So, a big round of applause in here for Labbie!
    6999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624545)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This would be a good time to post.

    Here's a post! :)
    7000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD of the Day - August 22 2007 (Message 624544)
    Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WAY TO GO, Labbie!
    7001) Message boards : Technical News : Tuesday Afternoon (Aug 21 2007) (Message 624536)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Matt, when you refer to a "load" of 20 or more, what do you mean? What load? Thanks.
    7002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624520)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Arthur Dent

    To quote Wikipedia -

    Dent escapes the Earth's destruction as it is demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass. Arthur spends the next several years, still wearing his dressing gown, helplessly launched from crisis to crisis while trying to straighten out his lifestyle. He rather enjoys tea, but seems to have trouble obtaining it in the far reaches of the galaxy. In time, he learns how to fly and carves a niche for himself as a sandwich-maker.

    Just about sums my life to date..


    I think I know who will get to reprise the movie version of Zaphod Beeblebrox. ;)
    7003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624506)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Enjoy, John.
    7004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Welcome to the Canadian Cafe! (Message 624482)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was hilarious, MrG!
    7005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 624462)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris and Lester: where's Beets?

    They probably don't want to join you ;)

    join us

    I just got back from England and Scotland. I cant AFFORD to join your team ! You all must be RICH ! And pale


    Eh?
    7006) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Pioneering NASA Spacecraft Mark Thirty Years of Flight (Message 624434)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So that means those Voyagers are moving out at Pluto's distance every ten or so years. That means about 30 astronomical units per ten years (since Pluto is still closer than its 40-AU average) or 3AU per year. Since a light-year is a little more than 60,000 AU that's about a light-year in 20,000 years or to Alpha Centauri in about 80,000 years. By then it's possible that the nearby stars will have moved out and been replaced by other stars.

    And if we get some much faster craft, the V'gers could also be overtaken and passed.
    7007) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 624432)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Labbie's suggestion seems to work. Thanks again, to both of you.
    Now if I just had the right screwdriver to open up the old laptop and clean the fan. :(


    Update:

    Bahhh... Don't know where that link went, Sarge, sorry. :-(

    I did Google for Notebook Assembly tools and got quite a few hits, and some possibilities. So you could try starting there if you wanted.

    Alinator


    I think you're making it too complex. :)
    I'll post more here soon, when things are running smoothly on the other laptop or if I find it's more problematic than I thought.
    7008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624370)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I recognize Mike. I assume the guy on the left in the second pic is Chris?
    7009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 624365)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chris and Lester: where's Beets?
    7010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Locked threads (Message 624348)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You must be creating some naughty threads! :)


    Not me mate! Most of 'em are requested by their owners, it just seems a lot at the moment that's all.


    hmmm
    7011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aloha! (Message 624345)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mahallo!

    Malahini!

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malahini.
    7012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Locked threads (Message 624344)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You must be creating some naughty threads! :)
    7013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ChildrEn's playground . . . (Message 624333)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol
    7014) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 3 ) (Message 624332)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to Calm Chaos!
    7015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624231)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol
    7016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624229)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way too long Dan.

    Says the guy who was up on top of this thread for 5 hours earlier today.

    Hehe, your just jealous cause it wasn't you. Its skill my friend, pure skill. LOL :-) I've just learned when you all post, so I can sneak in for my victory. Hehehe

    Who gotz da skillz?

    eWe iZ lOoKiN aT 'iM!

    Hehhe


    Dang, mah righteous brutha!
    7017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#44 - CLOSED FOR RECONSTRUCTION (Message 624226)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way too long Dan.

    Says the guy who was up on top of this thread for 5 hours earlier today.

    Hehe, your just jealous cause it wasn't you. Its skill my friend, pure skill. LOL :-) I've just learned when you all post, so I can sneak in for my victory. Hehehe

    Who gotz da skillz?
    7018) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 624223)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Labbie's suggestion seems to work. Thanks again, to both of you.
    Now if I just had the right screwdriver to open up the old laptop and clean the fan. :(
    7019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624203)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!

    Well it's about time you had some Michelob then.

    I'm into the "reds" right now.

    The reds?

    Killian's and some mid-western brand I found about 2 months ago that starts with an L.

    Ah...The famous L beer.

    Leifenheigerpfleugel or something like that. :)
    7020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Aloha! (Message 624198)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mahallo!
    7021) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 624197)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, not yet, because of the internet connection problems with the other laptop.
    So, SSE or SSE2?
    7022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624196)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!

    Well it's about time you had some Michelob then.

    I'm into the "reds" right now.

    The reds?

    Killian's and some mid-western brand I found about 2 months ago that starts with an L.
    7023) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624188)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!

    Well it's about time you had some Michelob then.

    I'm into the "reds" right now.
    7024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624182)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I haven't had that brand in years, lol!
    7025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624172)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Michelob, eh?
    7026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You As A Movie Character. (Message 624167)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Will Hunting. Guess why. :)
    7027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News Flash! Dogbytes is out of the hospital. Party here! (Message 624145)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check of Sunrise Hospitals ratings...especially patient safety practice...

    Scroll down for explanation of the graphics used.
    Basically, on many factors, they do not meet the criteria of the reviewers?

    Those are self reportings...even with the fox watching the hen house, they are dismal.

    Oh, wow.
    7028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News Flash! Dogbytes is out of the hospital. Party here! (Message 624141)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check of Sunrise Hospitals ratings...especially patient safety practice...

    Scroll down for explanation of the graphics used.
    Basically, on many factors, they do not meet the criteria of the reviewers?
    7029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 624133)
    Posted 22 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Guys!

    Thanks for asking after me, that makes me feel so good!


    Just to explain: I was out sailing today. At night you can already feel that autumn chill and it made me realize that I've only got two more weeks of summer left. After Labour Day, the weather turns rainy and nsdty real quick around here.

    So for the next couple of weeks I won't be around the computer much. I'll try to keep up with things at night and do a post or two. But please forgive me, I won't be around here during the daytime much for the next couple of weeks.

    Everybody okay? I hope so!


    Cheers from Beets! :)

    Good to hear that you are OK...I was about to send the Navy after you.


    Awww shucks! You mean i missed a ride on the Yellow Submarine?

    It's no good sending the Navy after me, they're all up North in the arctic somewhere, both ships probably (LOL), defending a teensy weensy island from those marauding Dane Vikings. :)


    omg! lol!
    coast guard, then?
    7030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 624117)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's your favorite brand, Dan?
    7031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 624076)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/windows_update_skype_me.html?kc=EWKNLSTE082107STR1

    August 20, 2007 5:48 PM
    Windows Update: Skype Me

    Joe Wilcox

    Skype has identified the smoking gun that brought down the service last week: Windows Update. Say what?

    According to a post today by Villu Arak on the Skype Heartbeat blog:

    "The disruption was triggered by a massive restart of our users' computers across the globe within a very short timeframe as they re-booted after receiving a routine set of patches through Windows Update. The high number of restarts affected Skype's network resources. This caused a flood of log-in requests, which, combined with the lack of peer-to-peer network resources, prompted a chain reaction that had a critical impact."

    I hadn't realized that Microsoft had in Windows Update a weapon against peer-to-peer networks. Maybe record labels and movie studios should rejoice. If Windows Update can bring down Skype, what could all that massive rebooting do to P2P illegal file sharing networks?

    The question is asked in jest. Arak acknowledged that the massive reboot triggered a "previously unseen software bug within the network resource allocation algorithm." Windows Update may have set off the outage, but the ultimate flaw lies with Skype.

    Not So Super Nodes
    Skype relies on supernodes—user computers acting as proxies for others—to maintain the network's data connectivity. If too many supernodes fall off the network too quickly, service integrity could collapse. Based on Arak's explanation, too many supernodes shut down while too many re-log-ins occurred. The re-log-ins overwhelmed the remaining supernodes, leading to a cascading failure.

    At some point, a critical mass of supernodes failed, making a service restart nearly impossible. I wouldn't be surprised if the service only recovered after a critical mass of Skype users gave up their log-in attempts.

    The real questions: Why then? Why now? Microsoft issues new patches every second Tuesday around 1 p.m. ET, which during Daylight Savings Time is 17:00 GMT. But the Skype outage occurred on Thursday. Also, Microsoft has used this second Tuesday schedule for about four years.

    Windows' default automatic update time is daily at 3 a.m. local time. I've reset my computer to 8 p.m. When set to automatic mode, Windows Update checks for updates when the computer connects to the Internet. The user can then optionally install the updates, otherwise Windows will automatically do so at the scheduled time. Windows also can force installation when the computer is put to sleep or shut down.

    At first glance, the math doesn't quite add up, getting from 3 a.m. local time on August 14 or 15 to a service failure on August 16. For example, 3 a.m. in Beijing comes two hours after Microsoft is supposed to release second-Tuesday updates. But the updates often aren't available everywhere at once. It's conceivable then that many computers in Asia would have started installing updates on the afternoon of August 15 in the United States. From there, it's not a stretch to see a service problem starting late on August 15, as would appear to be the case.

    So, I buy the idea of Windows Update as the trigger—as computers rebooted or shut down across time zones for the installation of second-Tuesday updates. If enough supernodes shut down fast enough, service interruption would be inevitable. But why now, when Microsoft second-Tuesday updating is a longstanding practice? Skype doesn't offer any real explanation.

    Off the Hook at a Bad Time
    The timing is fortuitous for Microsoft, which is making a major push into unified communications, including voice over IP. Skype is used by some enterprises and probably by even more small businesses. Skype has been adding presence and call routing features that are reminiscent of some Microsoft Office Communicator capabilities. Microsoft and Skype are moving from opposite sides into the same business market segments.

    Businesses depend on reliability—for smaller shops perhaps even more so because they might not have a backup option. Additionally, their small size magnifies the impact of any services outage. Microsoft has new versions of Office Communicator and Office Communications Server in the queue. Granted, these products cost a whole lot more than does Skype. But Microsoft can tout reliability.

    For many businesses, reliability will matter more than cost. Skype's service problem is a Microsoft sales opportunity to generate some fear, uncertainty and doubt.

    The outage also calls into question Skype's broader services architecture. Rather than rely on dedicated servers, Skype infrastructure depends on its users—particularly those designated as supernodes. What happens in the future should a worm spread across the Skype network, possibly one designed to choke IP traffic among supernodes? This outage reveals potential weakness that somebody is sure to try and exploit.

    It's a good week for Microsoft to tout Office Communicator.
    7032) Message boards : Number crunching : Updating to new optimized app (Message 624071)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AVG found a virus in the download of 7-Zip.

    7z442.exe?
    7033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 624050)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WooHOo! Pawly wins!

    Here ya go.



    Lindsay Lohan takes Britney Spears' mohawk look many steps further.
    7034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 624039)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, that's a key point: it's free if the person you are calling is also on Skype. However, in the past 8 months, the only other people on Skype I know of are via the SETI Cafe and from related sites such as Calm Chaos' board. No one else I call (family, friends, colleagues, potential employers, etc. ...) have mentioned using Skype, even after I tell them my number and that it is via Skype.
    (I should say one colleague has used it, but I think he has switched to a different program for price reasons. He is from Palestine and claims to be getting a cheaper deal elsewhere.)


    Trust me, Sarge: Businesses see the advantages of having their customer service and sales departments doing business long-distance without having to pay for those long-distance telephone charges. Be patient and I think you'll see those Skype numbers popping up everywhere soon. This is an odd case where business is taking to it faster than the general public is, but if business supports it the public will usually follow.


    In hindsight, I suspect you downloaded a plug in Skype provides where you can click on phone numbers that show up on a web page. If so, having used that myself, I can tell you many of the numbers you are seeing listed are not Skype numbers.
    7035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 624036)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello

    You may or may not know but last week Skype wasn't available for a
    couple of days. There were a number of reasons for this and I am
    delighted to say that the problem is now well and truly sorted and
    everything is back to normal. For those of you who tried to use Skype
    during that time but couldn't, we're very sorry. For those of you who
    didn't try to use Skype - well thankfully you were not affected but we
    want to reassure everyone that Skype is now working happily and the
    problem is fixed.

    We know we have many faithful users out there who give us feedback
    (good and bad) on what we're doing as a company. The Skype community
    makes us what we are. Without you, our users, we simply wouldn't
    exist. We've helped people stay in touch with their friends and
    family over the past four years without any massive hitch and we want
    it to stay that way.

    When the unexpected happens, it's important to remember the people who
    stuck behind us and whose loyalty humbled us. I want to thank
    everyone for their support, patience and being part of the Skype
    community. And for those of you who missed out on using Skype last
    week - I want to especially thank you as well.

    As a goodwill gesture to all you faithful Skype Pro, Skype Unlimited,
    SkypeIn or Skype Voicemail customers, we're adding an additional seven
    days to your current subscription, free of charge. And even if you
    didn't miss out on using Skype last week - you can still have a week
    free on Skype, on the house!

    So please enjoy it, call your loved ones, friends, family and
    colleagues and thanks again.


    Talk soon,
    The people at Skype
    7036) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 624031)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I need to register at the optimized site?
    Do I need to download many of the files listed there or just one?
    I have, on this laptop, Genuine Intel(R) CPU.
    T2600 at 2.16 GHz. 0.99 Gb of RAM.
    So, which file(s) do I need?

    [EDIT: Please feel free to PM an answer to me, as I am not always checking in at the NC Forum.]

    Just one, the Pentium-M build should be best on that system. The T2600 is a Core Duo one generation later in that family. You do not need to register in order to download, but it would allow you to opt in to getting email from the thread in which Simon announces changes, new builds, etc. It's a very low volume, specifically meant for those who read the NC Forum infrequently.
                                                                    Joe


    Thanks again, Joe.

    How about this one, if it can run any of the versions at all:

    HP Pavilion ZV5434RS
    PT277UA AMD ATHLON XP-M PROCESSOR 3000+
    1.6GHZ, 54G
    Etc. ... .
    7037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 623825)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BEETS!
    7038) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Human origins (Message 623795)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice !

    Thanks, Sarge!!!


    y/w
    7039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 623787)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WooHOo! Pawly wins!

    Here ya go.



    The rose-colored glasses explain Mz. Piggy's love for Kermy.
    7040) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 623780)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I need to register at the optimized site?
    Do I need to download many of the files listed there or just one?
    I have, on this laptop, Genuine Intel(R) CPU.
    T2600 at 2.16 GHz. 0.99 Gb of RAM.
    So, which file(s) do I need?

    [EDIT: Please feel free to PM an answer to me, as I am not always checking in at the NC Forum.]

    Just one, the Pentium-M build should be best on that system. The T2600 is a Core Duo one generation later in that family. You do not need to register in order to download, but it would allow you to opt in to getting email from the thread in which Simon announces changes, new builds, etc. It's a very low volume, specifically meant for those who read the NC Forum infrequently.
                                                                    Joe

    Thanks, Joe!
    7041) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 623755)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bump
    7042) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Human origins (Message 623753)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070820/sc_nm/egypt_antiquities_dc_1
    7043) Message boards : Number crunching : Gibt es hier auch Deutsch sprechende?? Hab da eine Frage... (Message 623749)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    zwerg.thorin sprechen Deutsch.
    7044) Message boards : Number crunching : CPU and Chicken app (Message 623748)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do I need to register at the optimized site?
    Do I need to download many of the files listed there or just one?
    I have, on this laptop, Genuine Intel(R) CPU.
    T2600 at 2.16 GHz. 0.99 Gb of RAM.
    So, which file(s) do I need?

    [EDIT: Please feel free to PM an answer to me, as I am not always checking in at the NC Forum.]
    7045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 623742)
    Posted 21 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good MorningAfternoonNight to all!...And welcome back to Beets who spent Sunday in the Twilight Zone.

    And of course...Get Well Dennis!


    "Twilight Zone"? Was that by Golden Earring?


    goin' baCk a wEE bit there eh Sarge? they were pretty good too (i liked 'em)

    [edit] the Post Number was 777 - the Number of mi other Printer - an Epson 777 ;)


    It's the first thing that jumped to my free associating, at no cost, mind.
    7046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623647)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES, off with you.

    Whoa!

    dayum

    There we go. :)
    7047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623644)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES, off with you.

    Whoa!
    7048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623641)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Off with you!

    Whoa.
    7049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623631)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    7050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 623611)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what's your caption, Chris?
    Ah, now you put it in.
    7051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 623600)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thank you CyberWraith.

    Here's the next one:



    "This is what you get for dragging me around all these years!"
    7052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623582)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy, here I am again in this thread! :)
    7053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 623578)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ours will probably be pretty "intimate"!

    BOINCing usually is intimate.

    In your case just a man and his laptop.

    All the ladies will be all over me. :P

    Pics don't count. Or vids! LOL

    I mean the beautiful ladies that BOINC that will be present. Take pix for Misfit to see, ha ha ha!
    7054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 623575)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ours will probably be pretty "intimate"!

    BOINCing usually is intimate.

    In your case just a man and his laptop.

    All the ladies will be all over me. :P
    7055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 623557)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ours will probably be pretty "intimate"!

    BOINCing usually is intimate.
    7056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623554)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, among The 30 we are able to hash out our differences with each other and keep going. Even a recent attempt to divide us failed.
    7057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623543)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do friends share chocolate? :)


    Hehehe.. The sharing of chocolate is a true test of any friendship.

    Just got back from the shop and we're all going to be sick as dogs tonight: I got a bar of Green & Black's organic dark chocolate with cherries, one with real ginger, a bag of gummy bears another with foamy shrimps and bananas as well as a bag of jelly beans.

    I did however forget the cheese so it's gummy bears and lettuce sandwiches for dinner.



    Haha, my son the other day asked if he could have gummy bears for lunch. I caved. He had his gummy bears.


    LOL! And 30 packets of ketchup?
    7058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623517)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To ask someone to do something out of blind loyalty is probably the furthest thing from friendship I can think of.
    7059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623513)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A hallmark of my best friendships has been that we can tell each other when we are wrong.


    Way to go Sarge.

    When our real friends (not acquaintances) tell us we are wrong, we sit up & notice.


    Sometimes, though, it doesn't hurt to hear it twice; either from the same person or even better from more than one friend.
    7060) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Artificial life likely in 3 to 10 years (Message 623497)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the post.
    LOL@the bit about such life running amok.
    Even if it did, how many years would it take for it to develop such a capability? Thousands to millions?
    7061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Space Shuttle Endeavour is home!! CLOSED! (Message 623494)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Chris. I'll try to remember to tune in. If this thread is kept in the forefront, it will help remind me. :)
    7062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Space Shuttle Endeavour is home!! CLOSED! (Message 623469)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Endeavour undocked from space station and preparing to come home. It is one day earlier than planned due to the hurricane. Landing planned for 6pm GMT Tuesday afternoon or 1pm EST.

    Can we keep track of this on the NASA TV like Michael B had brought to our attention with the previous shuttle mission?
    7063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623459)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do friends share chocolate? :)
    7064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623417)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A hallmark of my best friendships has been that we can tell each other when we are wrong.
    7065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Friendship/Loyalty (Message 623398)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What do these terms means to you? Are they synonymous?
    I will add my own bit later.
    If cRunchy could add something here, I think this thread could have a very elegant beginning.
    7066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 623385)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good MorningAfternoonNight to all!...And welcome back to Beets who spent Sunday in the Twilight Zone.

    And of course...Get Well Dennis!


    "Twilight Zone"? Was that by Golden Earring?
    7067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 623313)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm here, Buddy! :)

    It's just been a hectic day. Nothing like Dennis's though.


    It's ok, folks, Beets is not banned.
    Yes, best wishes to Dennis.
    7068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Beets? (Message 623082)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, where are you?!?
    7069) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 3 ) (Message 623075)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At Calm Chaos, we have great forums and a nice chat room!
    You can even put someone on ignore multiple times and send them new messages with each ignoring! :)
    7070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 623072)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    7071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : News Flash! Dogbytes is out of the hospital. Party here! (Message 623009)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've got a special nurse for you, one that will care for all your needs.

    That one won't do it for him...

    Best wishes, D.


    She'd do for me. But, she's for Dennis. :)
    7072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm a kitty cat (Message 622997)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Meow!
    7073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The seti sci-fi and fantasy book club. (Message 622996)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anybody know Dogbytes' favorite sci-fi/fantasy book?
    7074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sci-Fi Movies of the 1950's (Message 622994)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should have a 1950s movie in honor of DOgbytes. One he would like.
    7075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 622992)
    Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    see the 'News Flash' Thread on Dennis (DogBytes)


    see the News Flash! Dogbytes is in the hospital UPDATE



    Get better, Dennis.
    7076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 622908)
    Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hurah Thanks

    Get well soon Dog Bytes


    here is the next pic, I have added my own caption cos I can but it is disqualified from the Comp.



    Tiddles agreed to look again at his earlier assertion that "Walking around the edge of the bath was a piece of piss"


    IN honor of Dennis, "The dog ALWAYS wins" (even though I prefer cats).
    7077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 622889)
    Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good evening! :)
    7078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 622865)
    Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon! :)
    7079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright (Message 622719)
    Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Simple solution then:

    Change forums so that no images at all (no IMG tag or avatars). No hyperlinks at all (remove the URL tag).

    And to go further to ensure everyone is happy. No typing URL addresses in text (without URL tag).

    Since regular user can not delete/edit old posts I take it then the mods/admins would go through and do this for us? But leave the plain text behind?


    LOL! That would keep them busy for a while1
    7080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 622358)
    Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Your best decision all year, mister.
    7081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ride on, Don Quixotes (Message 622277)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heavy stuff

    Very...

    So's the music that goes with it. Heavy but melodic and well done.
    7082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Just a note.... (Message 622215)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've tested the boundaries, folks. We know what they are. There is no longer any need to test the boundaries, lest we sink to the childish level of others.
    7083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 621711)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    come on Lester, I want to see this Video.
    Does it have police in it?


    LOL I dunno how to send. MSN ?


    How big is the video?
    7084) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : Calm Chaos Team Looking For New Members ( 3 ) (Message 621705)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woo hoo! Welcome back to the land of unlocked threads, CC!
    7085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ride on, Don Quixotes (Message 621704)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bruce Dickinson
    Tattooed Millionaire (1990)

    1. Son Of A Gun

    Holy was the preacher.
    Riding on his rig of steel in the rising sun.
    This was no grim reaper.
    But a man with a smile who took a pride in a job well done.
    Ohh in a blood red sunrise.
    He's preaching conversion as you lay down and die.

    Just a god given holy roller.
    In a god forsaken land.
    He didn't choose this killing ground.
    He didn't want this scrap of land.
    You've got to scorch the earth, yeah.
    and make the rivers run dry.
    Until we learn to hate like him.
    Kill for killin'. Live to die.

    [CHORUS:]

    Ride on you son of a gun. Ride on. Ride into the setting sun.

    You've gotta be a hero, for one last time.
    To prove through your destruction.
    That killing is a great way of life.
    There's a wooden cross somewhere.
    Where they'll bury you down deep.
    You lie to your people, You lie to yourself.
    Your in love with death babe.
    You've got no shame.

    [CHORUS]

    The preacher laughed. The preacher cried.
    He loaded bullets as he smiled.
    Congregation sat and wondered.
    Would they live or would they die.
    Just an ordinary man, with his orders and his plans.
    In the shadows of a cross.
    Oh in a blood red sunrise.
    Take me to Jesus, with Judas my guide.

    [CHORUS]

    Ride on your bleeding heart.
    Ride on you play no part.
    Ride on you feel no pity.
    Ride on you feel no pain.
    Ride into history.
    7086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 621682)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should. We have a very nice state. :-)


    I spent a week in Michigan one night.


    Hmmm. Does this fall under myth? Legend? Or conspiracy? :)

    Has Michigan become a conspiracy?


    I'm referring to the one day/one week portion of this story. :)


    Be honest Sarge....you've had nights like that too. lol


    I'll have to think about that. :)
    7087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621676)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - If team boards are altered to allow people to register even though they are not team members, then yu may find you draw someone in. More importantly, someone could, from time to time, post links in the team recruitment forum and here in the Cafe.
    7088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621602)
    Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everybody, take a break from this thread.
    I have already requested, via red-X, that the posts after I asked KM to share his suggestion, be deleted.
    If KM does not type it up by tomorrow morning, then I'll go ahead and share what I remember of his suggestion.
    7089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621429)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been stable 2-2.5 for me.
    7090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My all time most favorite ever... (Message 621425)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    • single ... Hotel California, The Eagles
    • album ... The Wall, Pink Floyd
    • film ... The Last of the Mohicans, with Daniel Day-Lewis
    • alcoholic drink ... Bloody Mary
    • book ... Dune, Frank Herbert
    • car ... TVR Griffith
    • place on this planet ... Connor Pass, Ireland



    Can I frighten you with some eerily good Waters/Gilmour imitations?
    (The girlfriend of a very good local musician recently heard me perform Comfortably Numb and was impressed.)
    7091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621384)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As of around 10 minutes ago, Skype seems to be up and running again.

    I'm more concerned with extended periods of time that it maintains the connection.
    But, I will say in the last 30 to 60 minutes, it's been behaving.

    We just had a video call and its workin fine.(what a horror movie! :D)

    Dare we ask who called and why the video was a horror movie? :)

    Hehehe ;-) wouldn't you like to know :D

    IT was the grand master him self.


    I thought Darth Maul cut him in half and he fell down a long, high pipe?
    7092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621374)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As of around 10 minutes ago, Skype seems to be up and running again.

    I'm more concerned with extended periods of time that it maintains the connection.
    But, I will say in the last 30 to 60 minutes, it's been behaving.

    We just had a video call and its workin fine.(what a horror movie! :D)

    Dare we ask who called and why the video was a horror movie? :)
    7093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621368)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As of around 10 minutes ago, Skype seems to be up and running again.

    I'm more concerned with extended periods of time that it maintains the connection.
    But, I will say in the last 30 to 60 minutes, it's been behaving.
    7094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 621321)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL.
    I spoke with MrGray last night. He did not say "Sarge, you were way off base."
    Furthermore, shoot and shut ... .
    Let's see: when someone says "I win, you loose," do you think the person is commenting on something not being tight? Or do you recognize that loose was supposed to be lose?
    How about this one? "I wondered about the fields for a while wandering if there is life on the planets circling other stars?"
    (I've seen these kinds of errors from college students, as well.)

    No, I didn't assume anything. I read what was said and used the plain meaning of the words used.


    I have also read them.
    MrGray and I had a run in or two a few months back.
    We now talk in these threads, in PMs and on the Calm Chaos board. I believe we are able to make ourselves pretty clear to one another, across several posts. If he or ML1 wants to come along and tell me I have misunderstood, that is something which they are welcome to do and I would be more convinced by their responses.
    I have also read several of your posts. These include your posts regarding other posters' complaints about interactions and moderation here. I continue to maintain that you mistook this disagreement as being typical of an internet forum argument, yet neither MrGray or ML1 said something about red-X's. The only clear cut example is when MrGray told ML1 he was put on ignore.

    Now, I'll interpret here a bit and suggest that maybe MrGray will like the thread bumps.
    But, enough's enough. Until MrGray or ML1 joins this discussion about what they meant, you and I could go round and round 'til we're both blue in the face. There's no point in that.
    7095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621306)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As discussed last night and one other time: attempts to move away from flame wars here by going to other sites and why those attempts either failed or met with limited success; your idea(s) for how it could be tried again, with more success this time.

    Hoping this clarified things for KM.
    Hope he'll post on his idea(s).
    Thread bump until then. :)
    7096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 621274)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing that I can see in the interactions of MrGray and ML1 suggests either was using "shut down" in the sense typically used on this message board. What was meant by "shut down" was, most likely, shooting down virtually every example, purported as evidence of UFOs and ETIs, posted.

    Then we disagree. Gray said "You've continually tried to shut this thread down." He didn't say "shoot this thread down," and he didn't say "shoot every example down," he said "shut this thread down."

    The only typical interpretation here, based on the fact that this is an internet forum, is what MrGray meant when he said he put ML1 on ignore.

    That may be your interpretation, but that doesn't mean it's typical. Be that as it may, that's the same post, I might add, when he said "shut this thread down," explicitly. Since it was explicit, it's reasonable to take the words at face value, given that he did not, as you interpreted, say "shooting down virtually every example..."


    The point is simple and easy to see, without interpretation.
    You assumed that MrGray and ML1 were arguing in an internet forum fashion, when instead they were not getting along and it just happened that they discussed things on an internet forum. I am willing to bet if their discussions took place in some other medium, including face-to-face, similar words and phrases would have been used.
    As for the second part you quoted, somehow, you missed the point: the only part of this that was typical of an internet forum argument (as opposed to an argument that just happens to occur over an internet forum) was where MrGray put ML1 on ignore.
    7097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 621211)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should. We have a very nice state. :-)


    I spent a week in Michigan one night.


    Hmmm. Does this fall under myth? Legend? Or conspiracy? :)

    Has Michigan become a conspiracy?


    I'm referring to the one day/one week portion of this story. :)
    7098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621207)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doesn't help, Richard.
    Let KM share his idea.
    7099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 621202)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should. We have a very nice state. :-)


    I spent a week in Michigan one night.


    Hmmm. Does this fall under myth? Legend? Or conspiracy? :)
    7100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621199)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As discussed last night and one other time: attempts to move away from flame wars here by going to other sites and why those attempts either failed or met with limited success; your idea(s) for how it could be tried again, with more success this time.
    7101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The New Battlestar Galactica Thread (Message 621196)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like the original Battlestar Galactica better.

    While the original, along with Buck Rogers, were were fine eye candy as a kid...basically Star Wars on network TV*, they were pure crap. I bought the DVDs of the original series. It makes me cringe, it's so corny.

    I *do* like how they brought the original Apollo back... =;^)

    *I know! No comparison! But that was the goal of the networks.


    Buck Rogers was crap.
    About 1/3 of the original Battlestar Galactica was good. Filter out the Bonanza in Space crap and you get some very interesting stuff. Indeed, it was the remaining stuff that Ronald D. Moore built on. Look again and you will see several nods to ideas and episodes (even episode titles) from the original, as well as ideas put forth by Glen A. Larson for a second season of the original or found in Richard Hatch's books ... continuations of the original from before the new series' beginning.

    Here are the interesting episodes from the original, mostly because of the mythology built up:

    [Edit: Credit where credit is due ... the following comes from an episode guide at http://battlestargalactica.com, associated with Richard Hatch and initially for a revival/continuation of the original. Since dedicated to both series.]

    1.) "Saga of a Star World" The Twelve Colonies of Man (Twelve Tribes; Colonials) are destroyed in a Trojan Horse gambit by their 1,000-yahren old enemies, the Cylons. A surviving military starship, the battlestar Galactica, leads a handful of survivors in a 220+ civilian starship fleet to safety amongst the stars. The Galactica's commander, Adama, intends to search for a lost Thirteenth Tribe who inhabit the planet Earth. The Colonials face pursuit by their Cylon aggressors -- and the Colonial traitor who helped orchestrate the holocaust: Baltar.

    Among cut scenes from the theatrical version: Serina in her news broadcaster role, reporting on the peace celebration as the Cylons attack; Athena and Starbuck discussing the destruction and their relatonship; Adama and Athena discussing the destruction, with Adama's remorse of their inability to save everyone; Baltar's beheading by the Cylons in the the theatrical version/Baltar's salvation by the Cylon's Imperious Leader to serve them in their pursuit of the fleeing Colonials.

    2.) "Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I" Apollo plans to "seal" (marry) with Serina. Apollo and Starbuck discover a magnetic void ahead of the fleet. Jolly and Boomer bring back a viral plague from their scouting mission to a Cylon asteroid which infects all of the Viper squadron pilots--and cripples their military capabilities. As Baltar and the Cylons threaten the fleet as the Colonials scramble to train new pilots to defend the fleet, while Dr. Salik searches desperately for a cure to the mysterious illness. Adama orders the fleet into the void for safety.

    3.) "Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II" The Galactica and her fleet are led by a lone star in the magnetic void to a dead planet which may contain the key to the Colonials' salvation. Starbuck is captured by the Cylons. Apollo and Serina "seal" as a lone star appears within the void. Adama believes the planet is Kobol, the world "where life began." The Colonials survey the dead world. Baltar appears to bargain with the Colonials; Adama finds proof of the exodus with insights into the Thirteenth Tribe's wherabouts. The Cylons betray Baltar's plans and attack the fleet and Kobol; the new pilots face destruction as they are outnumbered. The ill pilots recover, thanks to Dr. Salik's medical work, and bolster the Colonial defenses. Starbuck is returned, but Serina is killed.

    (There is an interesting reference to the "mythology about Earth at the end of Episode 5, "The Long Patrol.")

    11.) "The Living Legend, Part I" The legendary Commander Cain of the battlestar Pegasus meets up with the Colonial survivors and ignites a new campaign against the Cylons at Gamoray. But Adama finds Cain's warmonging ways to threaten the fleet's very existence, despite to renewed morale among the Colonials. Sheba, Cain's daughter and love interest for Apollo (Anne Lockhart) and Bojay (Jack Stauffer) are introduced.

    12.) "The Living Legend, Part II" Facing overwhelming odds, Commander Cain, teamed with the Galactica's warriors, continues his campaign to destroy the Cylons at Gamoray regardless of the cost. The Pegasus is lost at the end of the episode, after destroying two Cylon basestars. It is theorized that the battlestar escaped into deep space and that Cain will eventually meet up with the fleet again.

    14.) "War of the Gods, Part I" Several Viper patrols disappear, including one with Bojay and Jolly, while ghostly lights harass the Colonial fleet. And on a barren world, Apollo, Starbuck and Sheba encounter the mysterious Count Iblis, the lone survivor of a large spaceship crash. Iblis promises salvation for the fleet -- at an extreme price. Meanwhile, Sheba finds herself romantically drawn to Iblis, while Apollo, Adama, Tigh and Starbuck see Iblis as a growing threat -- and one which the desperate fleet is willing to embrace. (Note: This is the first appearance of the Triad game.)

    15.) "War of the Gods, Part II" Count Iblis's influence over the entire Colonial fleet--and particularly Sheba--grows as he works miracles, including the delivery of the traitor Baltar to the Council of the Twelve. Adama, Tigh, Apollo and Starbuck seek to uncover the truth about Count Iblis. And the Ships of Light/Beings of Light are revealed -- and coordinates to Earth are given to Sheba, Starbuck and Apollo.

    This episode featured the famous "cloven feet" within the wreckage of Iblis's ship. This is what Sheba, Apollo and Starbuck uncover in the wreckage. The props were created, but the footage was never aired. It was known that this crashed spaceship was not the Battlestar Pegasus. In fact, Commander Cain and the Pegasus was under consideration to return in the second season, had it taken place.

    Also note: While coordinates to "Earth" are provided by the Ship of Light/Beings of Light, it has been conjectured that they were, in fact, leading the Colonials to the planet Terra. (Terra = Earth.) We know the Beings of Light need Colonial help, as witnessed in the episode, "Experiment in Terra."

    ( Sarge's own note: Ronald D. Moore at one point mentioned the possibility of including the Ships of Light in the new series. If he's going to do that, I guess he only has one season left. :( )

    18.) "Greetings from Earth" (a telemovie which contains both Parts I and II together) An alien spacecraft is discovered by Starbuck and Apollo on patrol. It contains six human fugitives in suspended animation--possibly from the planet Earth. Tension amongst the fleet at the prospects of brethren from Earth rises. In time, the humans are revealed to be from Terra, a Colonial-like world. They are journeying to Paradeen (a nearby colony world) to escape the threat of the Eastern Alliance, a Terran faction with a ruthlessness akin to the Cylons. Starbuck, Cassiopeia and Apollo finish the journey with the Terrans, hoping to find clues to the location of Earth. But the Eastern Alliance pursues the ship to Paradeen, where more troubles ensue.

    (Sarge's own note: O.K., take out the silly dancing robots from this. The rest of the two-parter is fairly good.)

    20.) "Experiment in Terra" Apollo is chosen by the Ship of Lights/Beings of Light to perform a mission to save the planet Terra (discussed in "Greetings from Earth") from the Terran faction, the Eastern Alliance.

    (Sarge's own note: Apollo learns that this Terra is not the Earth/Terra they have been searching for. But what tribe were these humans from? As Boomer noted in "Greetings from Earth," all others they'd encountered were clearly stragglers from their own 12 tribes.)

    22.) "The Hand of God" The final episode of Battlestar Galactica before cancellation by ABC-TV in late Spring 1979. Sheba, Apollo, Cassiopeia and Starbuck retreat to an ancient navigation dome aboard the battlestar, where they intercept mysterious, fragmented transmissions (recognizable as those from the 1969 Apollo moon landings). As they attempt to enlist Boomer's electronics/communications knowledge with the transmissions, the fleet faces a Cylon basestar. Instead of running, Adama orders a military strike. Both Apollo and Starbuck volunteer to take Baltar's Cylon Raider to the basestar to infiltrate and cripple the ship's systems, to give the Galactica a better chance of victory. Baltar bargains for his freedom in return for tactical data. The Galactica (and Apollo/Starbuck's mission) is successful; the Cylon base ship is destroyed and the fleet departs their galaxy, in search of Earth.

    Note: The departure of Baltar is not seen, but assumed.
    7102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 621195)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like the original Battlestar Galactica better.

    While the original, along with Buck Rogers, were were fine eye candy as a kid...basically Star Wars on network TV*, they were pure crap. I bought the DVDs of the original series. It makes me cringe, it's so corny.

    I *do* like how they brought the original Apollo back... =;^)

    *I know! No comparison! But that was the goal of the networks.


    Buck Rogers was crap.
    About 1/3 of the original Battlestar Galactica was good. Filter out the Bonanza in Space crap and you get some very interesting stuff. Indeed, it was the remaining stuff that Ronald D. Moore built on. Look again and you will see several nods to ideas and episodes (even episode titles) from the original, as well as ideas put forth by Glen A. Larson for a second season of the original or found in Richard Hatch's books ... continuations of the original from before the new series' beginning.

    Here are the interesting episodes from the original, mostly because of the mythology built up:

    1.) "Saga of a Star World" The Twelve Colonies of Man (Twelve Tribes; Colonials) are destroyed in a Trojan Horse gambit by their 1,000-yahren old enemies, the Cylons. A surviving military starship, the battlestar Galactica, leads a handful of survivors in a 220+ civilian starship fleet to safety amongst the stars. The Galactica's commander, Adama, intends to search for a lost Thirteenth Tribe who inhabit the planet Earth. The Colonials face pursuit by their Cylon aggressors -- and the Colonial traitor who helped orchestrate the holocaust: Baltar.

    Among cut scenes from the theatrical version: Serina in her news broadcaster role, reporting on the peace celebration as the Cylons attack; Athena and Starbuck discussing the destruction and their relatonship; Adama and Athena discussing the destruction, with Adama's remorse of their inability to save everyone; Baltar's beheading by the Cylons in the the theatrical version/Baltar's salvation by the Cylon's Imperious Leader to serve them in their pursuit of the fleeing Colonials.

    2.) "Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I" Apollo plans to "seal" (marry) with Serina. Apollo and Starbuck discover a magnetic void ahead of the fleet. Jolly and Boomer bring back a viral plague from their scouting mission to a Cylon asteroid which infects all of the Viper squadron pilots--and cripples their military capabilities. As Baltar and the Cylons threaten the fleet as the Colonials scramble to train new pilots to defend the fleet, while Dr. Salik searches desperately for a cure to the mysterious illness. Adama orders the fleet into the void for safety.

    3.) "Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II" The Galactica and her fleet are led by a lone star in the magnetic void to a dead planet which may contain the key to the Colonials' salvation. Starbuck is captured by the Cylons. Apollo and Serina "seal" as a lone star appears within the void. Adama believes the planet is Kobol, the world "where life began." The Colonials survey the dead world. Baltar appears to bargain with the Colonials; Adama finds proof of the exodus with insights into the Thirteenth Tribe's wherabouts. The Cylons betray Baltar's plans and attack the fleet and Kobol; the new pilots face destruction as they are outnumbered. The ill pilots recover, thanks to Dr. Salik's medical work, and bolster the Colonial defenses. Starbuck is returned, but Serina is killed.

    (There is an interesting reference to the "mythology about Earth at the end of Episode 5, "The Long Patrol.")

    11.) "The Living Legend, Part I" The legendary Commander Cain of the battlestar Pegasus meets up with the Colonial survivors and ignites a new campaign against the Cylons at Gamoray. But Adama finds Cain's warmonging ways to threaten the fleet's very existence, despite to renewed morale among the Colonials. Sheba, Cain's daughter and love interest for Apollo (Anne Lockhart) and Bojay (Jack Stauffer) are introduced.

    12.) "The Living Legend, Part II" Facing overwhelming odds, Commander Cain, teamed with the Galactica's warriors, continues his campaign to destroy the Cylons at Gamoray regardless of the cost. The Pegasus is lost at the end of the episode, after destroying two Cylon basestars. It is theorized that the battlestar escaped into deep space and that Cain will eventually meet up with the fleet again.

    14.) "War of the Gods, Part I" Several Viper patrols disappear, including one with Bojay and Jolly, while ghostly lights harass the Colonial fleet. And on a barren world, Apollo, Starbuck and Sheba encounter the mysterious Count Iblis, the lone survivor of a large spaceship crash. Iblis promises salvation for the fleet -- at an extreme price. Meanwhile, Sheba finds herself romantically drawn to Iblis, while Apollo, Adama, Tigh and Starbuck see Iblis as a growing threat -- and one which the desperate fleet is willing to embrace. (Note: This is the first appearance of the Triad game.)

    15.) "War of the Gods, Part II" Count Iblis's influence over the entire Colonial fleet--and particularly Sheba--grows as he works miracles, including the delivery of the traitor Baltar to the Council of the Twelve. Adama, Tigh, Apollo and Starbuck seek to uncover the truth about Count Iblis. And the Ships of Light/Beings of Light are revealed -- and coordinates to Earth are given to Sheba, Starbuck and Apollo.

    This episode featured the famous "cloven feet" within the wreckage of Iblis's ship. This is what Sheba, Apollo and Starbuck uncover in the wreckage. The props were created, but the footage was never aired. It was known that this crashed spaceship was not the Battlestar Pegasus. In fact, Commander Cain and the Pegasus was under consideration to return in the second season, had it taken place.

    Also note: While coordinates to "Earth" are provided by the Ship of Light/Beings of Light, it has been conjectured that they were, in fact, leading the Colonials to the planet Terra. (Terra = Earth.) We know the Beings of Light need Colonial help, as witnessed in the episode, "Experiment in Terra."

    ( Sarge's own note: Ronald D. Moore at one point mentioned the possibility of including the Ships of Light in the new series. If he's going to do that, I guess he only has one season left. :( )

    18.) "Greetings from Earth" (a telemovie which contains both Parts I and II together) An alien spacecraft is discovered by Starbuck and Apollo on patrol. It contains six human fugitives in suspended animation--possibly from the planet Earth. Tension amongst the fleet at the prospects of brethren from Earth rises. In time, the humans are revealed to be from Terra, a Colonial-like world. They are journeying to Paradeen (a nearby colony world) to escape the threat of the Eastern Alliance, a Terran faction with a ruthlessness akin to the Cylons. Starbuck, Cassiopeia and Apollo finish the journey with the Terrans, hoping to find clues to the location of Earth. But the Eastern Alliance pursues the ship to Paradeen, where more troubles ensue.

    (Sarge's own note: O.K., take out the silly dancing robots from this. The rest of the two-parter is fairly good.)

    20.) "Experiment in Terra" Apollo is chosen by the Ship of Lights/Beings of Light to perform a mission to save the planet Terra (discussed in "Greetings from Earth") from the Terran faction, the Eastern Alliance.

    (Sarge's own note: Apollo learns that this Terra is not the Earth/Terra they have been searching for. But what tribe were these humans from? As Boomer noted in "Greetings from Earth," all others they'd encountered were clearly stragglers from their own 12 tribes.)

    22.) "The Hand of God" The final episode of Battlestar Galactica before cancellation by ABC-TV in late Spring 1979. Sheba, Apollo, Cassiopeia and Starbuck retreat to an ancient navigation dome aboard the battlestar, where they intercept mysterious, fragmented transmissions (recognizable as those from the 1969 Apollo moon landings). As they attempt to enlist Boomer's electronics/communications knowledge with the transmissions, the fleet faces a Cylon basestar. Instead of running, Adama orders a military strike. Both Apollo and Starbuck volunteer to take Baltar's Cylon Raider to the basestar to infiltrate and cripple the ship's systems, to give the Galactica a better chance of victory. Baltar bargains for his freedom in return for tactical data. The Galactica (and Apollo/Starbuck's mission) is successful; the Cylon base ship is destroyed and the fleet departs their galaxy, in search of Earth.

    Note: The departure of Baltar is not seen, but assumed.
    7103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621179)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All shiny and new is not connecting, either.
    7104) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : The Final Front Ear (Message 621123)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I figured TFFE probably likes bumping, so here's a bump for your thread.
    Throw a few the CC way when you can, if you don't mind. :)
    7105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621117)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, that's a key point: it's free if the person you are calling is also on Skype. However, in the past 8 months, the only other people on Skype I know of are via the SETI Cafe and from related sites such as Calm Chaos' board. No one else I call (family, friends, colleagues, potential employers, etc. ...) have mentioned using Skype, even after I tell them my number and that it is via Skype.
    (I should say one colleague has used it, but I think he has switched to a different program for price reasons. He is from Palestine and claims to be getting a cheaper deal elsewhere.)
    7106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare's suggested solution ... ? (Message 621106)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've tested the boundaries, folks. We know what they are. There is no longer any need to test the boundaries, lest we sink to the childish level of others. Knightmare has an excellent piece of advice, regarding previous attempts to move away from this forum, and I invite him to post about it.
    7107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 621095)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm not a skypette but, as I understand it, it's free long distance telephone, right?

    One way or another, ya get what ya pay for. imho.

    :)


    I am surprised this went by for 9 hours without someone providing better explanation.
    In short, the answer is No. It is a not a free long distance telephone.
    What comes for free is like what comes for free with other messenger programs such as Yahoo! Messenger or AOL Instant Messenger (AIM). So, it can serve as a text messenger.
    It also allows for voice chatting between Skype users. This is not unique. I believe, however, that this portion is also free.
    Last year, one could also use it to call landline phones and cell phones for free. That is no longer the case. My guess is they were building up interest and testing things.
    If you want to call out to landlines or cell phones, you must purchase SkypeOut:

      * 12 months of unlimited calls to any phone within the US and Canada
      * No connection fees charged for calls to US or Canadian phones
      * Only $29.95 for 12 months, or $8.85 for 3 months
      * Applies only to calls made from within the US and Canada



    International calls - as low as 2.1¢ per minute

      * 2.1¢ per minute to over 30 global destinations
      * Rates based on destination country
      * Connection fee of 3.9¢ charged for each call
      * Buy Skype Credit to pay per-minute. The credits are deducted as you make your SkypeOut calls



    (You can also purchase some credit so that you can send text, or SMS, messages to people on their cell phones, for about 11-12 cents for 180 characters. They, however, cannot text you back.)

    Moreover, you can also purchase SkypeIn, which will let people call you from landline and cell phones.

    Get a SkypeIn number - and free Skype Voicemail
    Just $18 for 3 months or $60 for a full year.

    In January, I bought SkypeOut and I have purchased, 3 times, SkypeIn for 3 month intervals. So, if the amounts now showing are the prices at the times of my purchases, then I have paid a total $93.95 for nearly a year's worth of service. ($10 for the ability to send text messages.)

    Until the problems that began yesterday, service while on a local area network has been very good. While on a wireless network, it's been anywhere from very good to poor, but that's my fault for using a slow connection at the time.
    My only other issue has been using the keypad during a call so I can enter information. For example, calling Expedia.com's 800 number and entering my reservation number.

    See http://www.skype.com, http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/, http://www.skype.com/products/skypein/ and http://www.skype.com/products/skypesms/. (The latter is regarding SMS Text Messaging.)

    Again, I am surprised no one clarified this earlier and now you can see this is not some free thing that can therefore be expected to be crap.
    Furthermore, notice how cable companies offer bundles now? Cable/phone/internet? I'd say Skype is one more version of this wave. I get most of my telephone service over the Internet. For me, it is a substitute for a cell phone: I already carry my laptop and I can be contacted when I am away home or my office (and people can leave me voicemail if the laptop is turned off, if my internet connection is poor or if I am too busy to answer) yet this does not get used like the chatty cell phone kids do.

    7108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'ARGHHH!! CafE . . . (Message 621079)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    By changing which simian referred to and adding in "your," what was perhaps questionable was transformed into something definitely non-kid-friendly.
    7109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620746)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...

    I looked for a cube on ebay but they have a bunch of small ones. I want the original size. (Fingers too big.)

    :(

    Guess I'll have to walk into a toy store...

    I did see some 4x4 cubes. I'll stick with the 3x3 for now, lolol.



    Rgr Sarge. Good to go. Inbound, your position.


    4x4x4 broke easily when first made.
    2x2x2 is much easier than 3x3x3.
    7110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620744)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Telling Kenzie nothing.
    7111) Message boards : Team Recruitment Center : TEAM SETI.USA - MEMBERS NEEDED (Message 620738)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi fellow crunchers

    On March 24, 2005 Team SETI.USA was created to consolidate United States users and become the #1 SETI Team in the world. This goal was achieved within 24 months of inception thanks to the extraordinary efforts of our dedicated membership. To parlay that effort, and for the benefit of all BOINC distributed computing projects, Team SETI.USA’s commitment to extend beyond a single project has begun. SETI.USA is now BOINCing the world! Join with us as we boldly go where no team has gone before!

    We are a very active and fun loving team and offer the following to our members:
    Website
    Newsletter
    Message Board
    Team Chat!!
    (Regular Monday night chat session, but always available.)

    Come Join in the fun as we strive to reach our goal of becoming the #1 Team in BOINC overall. Everyone welcome.

    If you are already a member of our great team and have not yet visited the message forums, please come on over and introduce yourself. We would love to see you there!!

    Together we will accomplish something amazing!


    Howdy!
    7112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620735)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's it. I'm buying one.

    :D


    The Calm Chaos chat room is calling you.
    7113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620733)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's it. I'm buying one.

    :D


    LOL.
    7114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620729)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    7115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620728)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would tick off, or freak out, people, when I would go for several seconds turning it and not looking at it. They could see progress was being made.
    7116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 620710)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo, Adrian!
    7117) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620709)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    7118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620706)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    i win

    nuh uh
    7119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620702)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    7120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620701)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How's your Skype, folks?
    7121) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'ARGHHH!! CafE . . . (Message 620689)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ARGHHHH!! Someone let ... out of his cage again!

    7122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620684)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=49750&cl=3661712&ch=61492&src=www.yahoo.com
    7123) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Computer Equipment Donations Thread . . . (Message 620671)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just so you all know, Eric and I will not be having any conversations. :)
    I think that makes both Eric and I super-cool dudes.
    7124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'ARGHHH!! CafE . . . (Message 620670)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    "All the power, none of the responsibility."
    7125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'ARGHHH!! CafE . . . (Message 620661)
    Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shh.. one is not allowed to express one's feelings.

    ::Waving at Houdi and da Blowfish!::
    7126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620568)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://heartbeat.skype.com/. Scroll down for updates.
    7127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620557)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like Skype have done something. I am connected, and see Michael B has logged in and available!

    Watch the connection disappear again real soon.
    7128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620549)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well it is too late to call England now I think anyway. It must be late there? I don't think my dad would be too thrilled to be woken up in the middle of the night.


    10:30 p.m. or so?

    I think it is board time +1. So probably a bit too late to call.


    How many time zones span ... sheesh, I do not know whether to say England or Britain. I guess I will say England. But, I do not mean the entire U.K.

    The whole of the UK is on the same timezone. They are on British Summer time at the moment so they are an hour ahead of board time. But England is not the same as Britain. Don't ever make that mistake or the Scots, Welsh and Irish will lynch you. :D

    I know they're not the same and that point is made a bit clearer from C.S. Lewis' "That Hideous Strength," but I do not know the full history or which word is appropriate when.
    7129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 620538)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have not seen Bodley in a long time.
    7130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620536)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well it is too late to call England now I think anyway. It must be late there? I don't think my dad would be too thrilled to be woken up in the middle of the night.


    10:30 p.m. or so?

    I think it is board time +1. So probably a bit too late to call.


    How many time zones span ... sheesh, I do not know whether to say England or Britain. I guess I will say England. But, I do not mean the entire U.K.
    7131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620531)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had trouble with skype earlier too. I was hoping to call England but had to give up.



    Hi there Esme

    Hope you are enjoying Canada, and the holiday.

    My Skype has been trying to connect for the last 3/4trs hour, and still not succeeded. This is even when it is set to away or not available

    I think the only choice today is give up!

    Well it is too late to call England now I think anyway. It must be late there? I don't think my dad would be too thrilled to be woken up in the middle of the night.


    10:30 p.m. or so?
    7132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620525)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While we're on downtime, I thought I'd ask. Does anyone know how to prevent unsolicited connections? I always get the willies when I turn my Skype on. It seems their are always 4-5 attempts to make connections with me, according to my firewall, which keeps throwing up "permission" requests.

    I take it you mean connections over the Net in general and not people trying to call or chat with you via Skype?


    Yep. These are connection attempts over the Net whenever I open Skype, Sarge.


    And you're sure this is not also occurring when Skype is not open?


    Correct. Yes, I'm sure. You can see the attempt notices on Skype too, simultaneously with the firwall alets.

    Hmmmn, maybe I Am talking about unsolicited Skype telephone calls after all. What the fix for those?


    OK, let's back up.
    Did you purchase SkypeIn and let people know they can call you on a computer/internet phone number while they are on a cell phone or a landline?
    Or are other Skype users making unsolicited calls to you? Or, at the least, trying to get you to join in a text chat on Skype?
    I have never received an unsolicited call from another Skype user. A few from landlines or cell phones are hard to tell because it will sometimes say unknown number and unless I am there to answer it or they leave me voice mail on Skype, I cannot tell. So far, all voice mail I have received is from people to whom I have given the number.
    On the other hand, I have woken up in the morning a few times to find that someone got me in an unsolicited group chat, even though I almost always have Skype set to invisible.
    7133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620509)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While we're on downtime, I thought I'd ask. Does anyone know how to prevent unsolicited connections? I always get the willies when I turn my Skype on. It seems their are always 4-5 attempts to make connections with me, according to my firewall, which keeps throwing up "permission" requests.

    I take it you mean connections over the Net in general and not people trying to call or chat with you via Skype?


    Yep. These are connection attempts over the Net whenever I open Skype, Sarge.


    And you're sure this is not also occurring when Skype is not open?
    7134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620508)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Perhaps there is a different origin for these cubes:



    :D


    LOL!
    Season 2. I believe the episode was "Q Who?" Immediately followed the episode where Data was a "pen pal" with some little orange girl from a pre-warp technology planet.
    7135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620497)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just looked in on this thread, and was prompted to move my Skype account from invisible to online.

    I see it is attempting to connect without success.

    So, I take it they have yet to solve their network issue?


    It does not appear to be resolved.
    7136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620487)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While we're on downtime, I thought I'd ask. Does anyone know how to prevent unsolicited connections? I always get the willies when I turn my Skype on. It seems their are always 4-5 attempts to make connections with me, according to my firewall, which keeps throwing up "permission" requests.

    I take it you mean connections over the Net in general and not people trying to call or chat with you via Skype?
    7137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620472)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hey skype just gone green :)

    I had it connect for a few seconds to a few minutes about 3 times late this morning or early this afternoon. (Maybe more when I was not looking.) But, generally, when I look, it is trying to connect. :(
    7138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620432)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is anyone else that uses Skype having trouble connecting to it today?
    Or is it just me?

    Same prob here...dammit

    Really? Has it been going on for several hours?
    I went to their main page, hoping to see whether they announced they were experiencing problems, but no such luck.
    [EDIT: I looked again and it is now mentioned.]
    7139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Learn about Skype (and the recent outage) (Message 620405)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is anyone else that uses Skype having trouble connecting to it today?
    Or is it just me?
    7140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 620356)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    times up. I,m winning new.

    Are you?
    7141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 620306)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Consider, for a moment, El Rushbo, that a phrase along the lines of shutting something down has multiple meanings and these meanings are not restricted by the fact that the communication is taking place on an internet forum.

    Sure. How would one tell? And if in doubt, wouldn't the plain meaning of the words chose be a reasonable choice for interpretation?

    Nothing that I can see in the interactions of MrGray and ML1 suggests either was using "shut down" in the sense typically used on this message board. What was meant by "shut down" was, most likely, shooting down virtually every example, purported as evidence of UFOs and ETIs, posted.
    The only typical interpretation here, based on the fact that this is an internet forum, is what MrGray meant when he said he put ML1 on ignore.
    7142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 620295)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The BBC reports an improved ultimate solution to Rubik's cube.

    I always preferred the "smallest description" type of solution to a more complicated one with fewer moves, but the 26-move solution is I imagine way beyond the repeated action of a few simple operations.


    The core issue: beauty (or simplicity or efficiency) in the description versus efficiency in the number of moves.
    7143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 620283)
    Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Reports of crop circles have been around that long?
    At least the blame has shifted, lol.
    7144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 619872)
    Posted 15 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warum sagst du das?

    One lump or two?

    "Pour some sugar on me"?

    Nah...I'd rather have Hysteria.

    As a song?
    Because PSSOM was on the album Hysteria.
    A disappointing album, in my opinion. :(

    I liked it...But it was not as good as Pyromania.

    That's pretty much my point. :)
    Since, at the time, Pyromania was so good, since Hysteria was nowhere near as good, Hysteria had to be disappointing.

    Yeah...I was agreeing with you.

    WTH?!? Dainbramage, accessible through iTunes and under the alternative section is playing "One in a Million" by Trixter. Did they get confused by the fact it was released around 1991? LOL!
    7145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE 'ARGHHH!! CafE . . . (Message 619823)
    Posted 15 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Argh, new laptop, new internet connection(s) and no WUs!!!
    (Take that, Blurf! :P)
    7146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 619779)
    Posted 15 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Jeremy, Richard, Doc, Mike and Ice!

    I'm back early from sailing. I had some errands I have to get done, today. Too bad though...Days like this, I'd like to stay out forever. LOL


    Did I hear someone say Espresso?



    :P
    7147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 619575)
    Posted 15 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's a tea joint? And are they legal?

    They are legal...as long as you don't smoke 'em at a party.

    I have heard all about these illegal tea parties. You don't want to get caught up in the underground tea scene.

    I haven't seen you in ages Myst! Here pass me one over here.

    I am still about..these outages are confusing and I have been pretty busy with real life stuff.

    Real life is what happens during database outages? :)
    7148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 619258)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warum sagst du das?

    One lump or two?

    "Pour some sugar on me"?

    Nah...I'd rather have Hysteria.

    As a song?
    Because PSSOM was on the album Hysteria.
    A disappointing album, in my opinion. :(

    I liked it...But it was not as good as Pyromania.

    That's pretty much my point. :)
    Since, at the time, Pyromania was so good, since Hysteria was nowhere near as good, Hysteria had to be disappointing.
    7149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 619231)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay Jeremy, that's long enough, now I win.

    Whoa, a Stacey Jane sighting! :)

    I see her too!...Hi Stacey Jane!

    Wow, theres Dan, Stacey Jane, Sarge. WOOHOO!!!

    I wonder when she'll be back next?


    For a Christmas drink?


    That would be a long absence.
    7150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 619221)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay Jeremy, that's long enough, now I win.

    Whoa, a Stacey Jane sighting! :)

    I see her too!...Hi Stacey Jane!

    Wow, theres Dan, Stacey Jane, Sarge. WOOHOO!!!

    I wonder when she'll be back next?
    7151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 619214)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warum sagst du das?

    One lump or two?

    "Pour some sugar on me"?

    Nah...I'd rather have Hysteria.

    As a song?
    Because PSSOM was on the album Hysteria.
    A disappointing album, in my opinion. :(
    7152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 619199)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay Jeremy, that's long enough, now I win.

    Whoa, a Stacey Jane sighting! :)
    7153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 619171)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon folks.

    sure, walk over me, why don't ya? :P
    7154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#43 - CLOSED FOR CLEANING & RECONSTRUCTION (Message 619163)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning
    7155) Message boards : SETI@home Science : If time is affected by mass... (Message 619156)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== tutoring Kenzie ;)

    Good luck, my friend, but I am truly hopeless when it comes to math.

    I remember trying to study the calculus in high school. Mostly I remember vaguely appreciating that it was a beautiful thing, and I remember profoundly not understanding it.


    Sorry, I was speaking to kenzieB. Who is this Jen Y Typical Prototype? :)
    7156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 619153)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warum sagst du das?

    One lump or two?

    "Pour some sugar on me"?
    7157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 619145)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keep scrolling down,

    Oh wait... it's Rush. Fitting name.


    "Rush" to a conclusion? :)
    Consider, for a moment, El Rushbo, that a phrase along the lines of shutting something down has multiple meanings and these meanings are not restricted by the fact that the communication is taking place on an internet forum.
    7158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 619144)
    Posted 14 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good evening! :)
    7159) Message boards : SETI@home Science : If time is affected by mass... (Message 618852)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== tutoring Kenzie ;)
    7160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 618849)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Warum sagst du das?
    7161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 618751)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MrGray, I am trying to figure out where CA posted "data" proving the Haiti video is a fake. What I see instead is a link to video editing software which would let us know in general how easily things could be faked these days.

    If you would have gone to the link you would see the actull video and how it was made..Great Software..BTW...:-)

    I did cut and paste the link and, after two quick looks, did not see anything referring to the Haiti UFO Hoax.
    7162) Message boards : SETI@home Science : If time is affected by mass... (Message 618747)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In Sagan's "Cosmos," there was a scene where a young man goes for a moped ride around his sleepy Italian town. He goes near the speed of light. When he returns, he finds the younger brother he left to wait for him in the center of town is now 70-80 years old.
    Of course, part of my letter to Sagan when I was an 8th grader was to ask why ... when the moped rider passes a woman hanging laundry on the outskirts of town ... the woman whips her head around to watch him whizzing by ... I asked why was she not instead coming out each day thinking: "When is that slow kid ever going to pass my house?" (See, I had this idea that the woman and the younger brother of the moped rider would be in the same temporal frame and stuff.)
    7163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 618669)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Whole Lotta Nothing" by Led Zeppelin? :)

    Yeah...Exactly.

    Well, at least you can post a lotta nothing while doing a lotta nothing!

    If we went by the real song title, Dan wouldn't be posting much of anything for quite some time. :)

    Ain't that the truth!...This forum would be a ghost town if everyone had a whole lotta love.

    Dan practices "A whole Lotta Self Love"

    Which i learned of from Timmy...The Master!

    Of his domain? :)
    7164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 618663)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it what your eyes see, or is it what your mind wants to believe you see?

    I made no comments on its authenticity in either direction.
    7165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HEY!!! WakE up on thEsE BOARDS (Message 618661)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 618613)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon. :)
    7167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to solve the Rubik's Cube - PDF (Message 618610)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The same year I wrote to Carl Sagan asking him to come talk to our gifted and talented class (heck, it would have only been a 30 mile trip for him), I also sent in to a company that published a Rubik's Cube solution manual some shortcuts that could be used. Of course, Dr. Sagan never came to talk to us and my shortcuts never got published. But some say it was pretty ballsy for an 8th grader. LOL.
    7168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 618608)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    MrGray, I am trying to figure out where CA posted "data" proving the Haiti video is a fake. What I see instead is a link to video editing software which would let us know in general how easily things could be faked these days.
    7169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 618599)
    Posted 13 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joint
    3 b: place, establishment
    7170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 618212)
    Posted 12 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Whole Lotta Nothing" by Led Zeppelin? :)

    Yeah...Exactly.

    Well, at least you can post a lotta nothing while doing a lotta nothing!

    If we went by the real song title, Dan wouldn't be posting much of anything for quite some time. :)
    7171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 618209)
    Posted 12 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the spirit of "equal time," something only a true centrist can understand ...

    7172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 618208)
    Posted 12 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 618203)
    Posted 12 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Whole Lotta Nothing" by Led Zeppelin? :)
    7174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 618119)
    Posted 11 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://potw.news.yahoo.com/s/potw/30293/the-real-x-files;_ylt=AjdwZuyExwXg9qGX9FJttZYKwId4
    7175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 618088)
    Posted 11 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Waddup?!? :)
    7176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 617678)
    Posted 10 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?!?
    7177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 617587)
    Posted 10 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 617572)
    Posted 10 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Sounds like you guys have slow connections?!?

    IhavenoslowconnectionjustamediumoneButcanIhaveacoffeepleasetoslowmedown?

    Maybe.
    7179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 617563)
    Posted 10 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    'retire' the RESPECT Thread?


    Agreed Richard.

    Think it's served it's purpose.

    Well, thank Jeebus we have you two here to decide what's best for the rest of us.

    Here's an idea: don't read the thread.


    Wow. What a novel idea. Think a little harder and you can come up with one that is even more novel and more effective. :)
    7180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 617561)
    Posted 10 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow. Sounds like you guys have slow connections?!?
    7181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : unterhaltung / information auf deutsch (Message 617060)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Herzlich Willkommen Namensvetter.

    Wenn du was wissen willst einfach fragen.

    Ich und Champ sind täglich hier.



    Hearty welcome Namensvetter.
    When you know, as your question.
    Champ and I are (often? moderators?) here.


    English translation for Sarge:

    Welcome namesake.
    When you want to know anything, please ask.
    Me and Champ are daily around.


    I was very close, with no programs or websites used.
    I suppose, since tag (or tage?) is day, I should have recognized täglich as daily.
    7182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : unterhaltung / information auf deutsch (Message 617056)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Herzlich Willkommen Namensvetter.

    Wenn du was wissen willst einfach fragen.

    Ich und Champ sind täglich hier.



    Hearty welcome Namensvetter.
    When you know, as your question.
    Champ and I are (often? moderators?) here.
    7183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 617051)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning on another wall-to-wall sunshine day, and a fine hello to -

    Monday (welcome)
    Mystique (long time and hoping you enjoy where you are on holiday)
    ICE (but he never left)
    Richard (like wise)
    Sarge (a regular)
    Tim (drops in to keep a health watch on the Cafe)
    and, of course -
    Beets (offering to get a bat drunk before flying).

    A fine cruising day to you all, with a strong cuppa tea or coffee to wake up with!




    Sarge will have difficulty with being a regular for a while, given that he is on the road.
    7184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 617045)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gang of the 30th wives and girlfriends hold their annual demonstration at Berkeley

    I thought Champ had more class than that.


    Cmon Sarge, don´t take the fun away.


    I will echo Chris S' statement on this matter from 2 months ago. "Fun? Humor? Not much of that left here."
    Now I will echo a Rush-type response: "What you find fun or humorous is not what all others will find funny or humorous. What some others find funny and humorous ... you will not always agree. You begged for more fun and humor, but when you got it, it wasn't the brand of fun and humor you expected. So, now you react even more emotionally."
    BTW: how do you stand traffic in Chicago?!? Ugh!!! More people need to use CTA. Oops, I hope that wasn't an emotional post.
    7185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 617041)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's my caption:
    "Just another classic example of people protesting emotionally rather than being objective."
    7186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 617039)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gang of the 30th wives and girlfriends hold their annual demonstration at Berkeley

    I thought Champ had more class than that.
    7187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 617035)
    Posted 9 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Artist: Rush
    Album: Presto
    Title: Available Light

    Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson

    The restless wind
    Has seen all things
    In every kind of light
    Rising with the full moon
    To go howling through the night

    The sleepless wind
    Has heard all things
    Between the sea and sky
    In the canyons of the city
    You can hear the buildings cry

    Oh the wind can carry
    All the voices of the sea
    Oh the wind can carry
    All the echoes home to me

    Run with wind and weather
    To the music of the sea
    All four winds together
    Can't bring the world to me
    Chase the wind around the world
    I want to look at life --- in the available light

    Play of light
    A photograph
    The way i used to be
    Some half-forgotten stranger
    Doesn't mean that much to me

    Trick of light
    Moving picture
    Moments caught in flight
    Make the shadows darker
    Or the colors shine too bright

    Oh the light can carry
    All the visions of the sea
    Oh the light can carry
    All the images to me

    Run to light from shadow
    Sun gives me no rest
    Promise offered in the east
    Broken in the west
    Chase the sun around the world
    I want to look at life --- in the available light

    All four winds together
    Can't bring the world to me
    Shadows hide the play of light
    So much i want to see
    Chase the light around the world
    I want to look at life --- in the available light

    I'll go with the wind
    I'll stand in the light
    7188) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616499)
    Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The PM system has resulted in successes where people go back and edit their posts.


    This is certainly true.

    A quiet request, possibly with a brief reason, is much more likely to draw a positive and supportive response than being heavy.

    That is human nature!


    I can confirm, that, fairly recently I was asked politely by a Moderator, via PM, to amend a post. This I did. It would not be appropriate in all cases, but where it is, it can work well.


    It does not have to be a mod, either. Posters PMing posters about it has had success. Not that certain people would be willing to acknowledge such a thing.
    7189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ~~~~~ RESPECT ~~~~~ (Message 616302)
    Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's human nature I guess, to say, "Well, leave it to them", but it doesn't do us much good. Things would be a lot better, especially with our new PM system, if we all chipped in to encourage people who are acting below the usual standards of decency, with encouragement, persuasion and even admonishments, to behave themselves.

    The PM system has resulted in successes where people go back and edit their posts.
    7190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 616233)
    Posted 8 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Darned wireless.
    7191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615873)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm skipping coffee today. Need the caffeine, but not the heat, etc. ... .

    What about some ice coffee then? I'd like some. :)

    Iced tea is far more preferable to iced coffee.
    7192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615837)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm skipping coffee today. Need the caffeine, but not the heat, etc. ... .
    7193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 615836)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. New rule, apparently. Do not compliment some moderators.
    Sorry to have offended you with my compliments.
    LOL.

    Your off-topic posts were removed at the thread author's request.

    But your the thread author. Misfit and Fuzzy come to this particular Cafe a lot. So I let them know here that they "RULE" and "ARE THE BEST." :)
    7194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 615786)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL. New rule, apparently. Do not compliment some moderators.
    Sorry to have offended you with my compliments.
    LOL.
    7195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 1st Annual BOINCers Picnic in the Park (Message 615695)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, people will be BOINCing in the park?
    7196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Daily Funnies - Part III (Message 615531)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615514)
    Posted 6 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have seen a monster to two in my time. Maybe one day I will reveal all.

    Sorry, Sarge's coffee is not known for causing hallucinations. LOL.
    7198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615505)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tsk, tsk, Sarge. But funny? Yes! LOL

    Huh?
    Rubber sounds like Robert.
    Robert Plant sang for Led Zeppelin.
    Hence, when one night several years ago some women left a rubber plant outside to see what people walking by would do, I saved it and named it "Robert the Plant." (Which will also explain one of my former screen names.)
    Unfortunately, about 7-8 years later, an apartment mate's two kittens pretty much killed Robert.
    7199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615390)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nessy?
    Loch Ness?
    7200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : HEY!!! WakE up on thEsE BOARDS (Message 615303)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615261)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Morning everyone!


    This poor little rubber tree needs a home, so I thought I'd bring it over here to Rocky's...where people and plants take care of one another. :)







    Where'd you get that pic of Robert the Plant?
    7202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615159)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG!
    7203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The K-Pax thread. (Message 615158)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    looks like a good movie. I'm downloading it now, all 1.38 GB of it. :)

    Good deal, Boss!
    7204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615147)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OMG!

    Do that in a Cartman voice. :)
    7205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 615128)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's up, Boss?
    7206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615123)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks very much for the coffee!!!!

    You're welcome. :)
    7207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615121)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whaddup?!? :)
    7208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615109)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come back.
    7209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615080)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who you calling a Yo-Yo Yo? LOL


    (Heyas Sarge! :) )


    Ain nobuddy roun here no yo-yo, yo!
    7210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615077)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one for Beets, the Boss, with the option of one or two lumps.


    Thanks Sarge! I'll have one of your morning mochas, please.

    <Looks around> Nice place you've got here! Good company, too. :)



    Ahhhh! Now that's good!









    Morning mocha in the evening, coming right up, Boss! :)


    Oh Goodie! There's nothing like having tomorrow's coffee tonight. Talk about fresh! :)


    The great thing, Boss, is that there'll also be more fresh coffee in the early a.m. tomorrow! :)
    7211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615068)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo, yo, yo.
    7212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615066)
    Posted 5 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one for Beets, the Boss, with the option of one or two lumps.


    Thanks Sarge! I'll have one of your morning mochas, please.

    <Looks around> Nice place you've got here! Good company, too. :)



    Ahhhh! Now that's good!









    Morning mocha in the evening, coming right up, Boss! :)
    7213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 615047)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Condition Green is a good condition, right? :)
    7214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 615045)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's one for Beets, the Boss, with the option of one or two lumps.
    7215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 615025)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo, Beets, you need some coffee from over at Sarge's? :)
    7216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614975)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Bend over, I want to see a little more of the world." ;)
    7217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614928)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Studying College Geography 101 became a lot more interesting once our professor showed us how we live in an elliptically-shaped universe."
    7218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614892)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I'm just here to make up the numbers :0)

    Oh, OK then, make it a strong one with milk on top.


    Aight!

    semi detached please


    You got it, boss! :)

    Thank you Sarge :)




    Wow, headless man went to extremes!
    7219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614847)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I'm just here to make up the numbers :0)

    Oh, OK then, make it a strong one with milk on top.


    Aight!

    semi detached please


    You got it, boss! :)
    7220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614843)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I'm just here to make up the numbers :0)

    Oh, OK then, make it a strong one with milk on top.


    Aight!
    7221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614831)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Coming right up!
    7222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614790)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Dunn0. d0 u kn0w, w4+ch 0u+?
    D1d h3 g3+ b4nn3d?
    7223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614779)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Waddup?
    7224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614764)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Coffee!
    7225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614756)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please note: Sarge's stopped selling ice cream 6 years ago and has no plans of selling it again.
    7226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614754)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi @all!

    Can I have the strongest espresso possible please? You know, prepared the way that the spoon just sticks. And, please, not such a doll cup usually taken for espresso: a real mug if it makes no trouble :-D


    In a real mug, coming up! :)
    7227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The K-Pax thread. (Message 614626)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An earlier K-PAX thread.
    7228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The K-Pax thread. (Message 614621)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I wanna tell you something Mark, something you do not yet know, that we K-PAXians have been around long enough to have discovered. The universe will expand, then it will collapse back on itself, then will expand again. It will repeat this process forever. What you don't know is that when the universe expands again, everything will be as it is now. Whatever mistakes you make this time around, you will live through on your next pass. Every mistake you make, you will live through again, & again, forever. So my advice to you is to get it right this time around. Because this time is all you have."

    A place to discuss K-PAX.
    7229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614599)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wake up! :)
    7230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614573)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy, y'all. S'up?

    The Sky is Up!

    Sky is falling on our heads!

    That is what happens when you place a mirror on the ground, you naughty little boy.

    So mirrors should go on our ceilings?
    7231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 614550)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No title as yet.
    Written by me during March 2006.
    I may revise it.

    Chorus
    Now ... is the time
    to let it all go.
    Let it fade away,
    into the past.
    Now ... is the time.
    Need to let you know
    that yesterday
    just can't last.

    Verse 1
    Time to make amends
    with an old friend.
    Time to set things right.
    Let go the fight.
    Time to say those things.
    Could mean everything.
    Time to speak from the heart.
    Could mean a new start.

    Repeat Chorus

    Verse 2
    Time for cycles to break.
    Find new ways to take.
    Time to know yourself,
    then become selfless.
    Time for forgiving.
    Let's start living.
    Time to share my wish ...
    to not go on like this.

    Repeat Chorus twice.

    Very nice. Inspiring; hopeful.


    My first post,
    August 27, 2005.
    A little earlier than I thought,
    though my explanations are not for nought.
    Few knew I was alive,
    Unrecognized, until around August or September, 2006, by most.


    BTW, a little reminder about my "posting behavior" ...
    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#454087.
    or
    http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&nowrap=true#454662
    Sooner or later
    one had to demonstrate
    absurdity
    by being absurd.
    Multiply the one hater
    one so many times duplicate
    duplicate ad absurdum.
    Haven't you heard?
    7232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614503)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "She was still looking for another contender in the mud-wrestling contest ... ."
    7233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614473)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "'Up to Your Knees in Crap'" is no longer figurative, but literal, as well!
    7234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614471)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "How high's the crap, Mama?"
    "Knee high and rising," Mama responded.
    7235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614470)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    There was no lack of volunteers to help clean up the Great Chocolate Spill of 2004



    Dang!
    Another strong contender.
    7236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614469)
    Posted 4 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No!
    Up is a preposition.
    :)
    7237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 614431)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No title as yet.
    Written by me during March 2006.
    I may revise it.

    Chorus
    Now ... is the time
    to let it all go.
    Let it fade away,
    into the past.
    Now ... is the time.
    Need to let you know
    that yesterday
    just can't last.

    Verse 1
    Time to make amends
    with an old friend.
    Time to set things right.
    Let go the fight.
    Time to say those things.
    Could mean everything.
    Time to speak from the heart.
    Could mean a new start.

    Repeat Chorus

    Verse 2
    Time for cycles to break.
    Find new ways to take.
    Time to know yourself,
    then become selfless.
    Time for forgiving.
    Let's start living.
    Time to share my wish ...
    to not go on like this.

    Repeat Chorus twice.

    Very nice. Inspiring; hopeful.


    My first post,
    August 27, 2005.
    A little earlier than I thought,
    though my explanations are not for nought.
    Few knew I was alive,
    Unrecognized, until around August or September, 2006, by most.
    7238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 614426)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice poem Sarge. It made me think. Which I don't often do.

    It was written about the O.J. Simpson case ... but it was also inspired by Rush's "Show Don't Tell" about the Scopes trial. That and my first experiences in January 1995 with how people portray themselves and others on the 'Net.
    7239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614407)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Well thanks a lot, Mr. "I don't need to ask directions"!!!


    ^
    |

    Thorin, this one might need to be the winner!

    Well, let's first see the other captions coming. I won't decide until it's the full ten captions.


    Of course, but so far I think Beets' entry is strong.
    7240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614402)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy, y'all. S'up?
    7241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 614388)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Well thanks a lot, Mr. "I don't need to ask directions"!!!


    ^
    |

    Thorin, this one might need to be the winner!
    7242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614385)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top! :)

    Just doing my duty.

    Continually.
    7243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 614231)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No title as yet.
    Written by me during March 2006.
    I may revise it.

    Chorus
    Now ... is the time
    to let it all go.
    Let it fade away,
    into the past.
    Now ... is the time.
    Need to let you know
    that yesterday
    just can't last.

    Verse 1
    Time to make amends
    with an old friend.
    Time to set things right.
    Let go the fight.
    Time to say those things.
    Could mean everything.
    Time to speak from the heart.
    Could mean a new start.

    Repeat Chorus

    Verse 2
    Time for cycles to break.
    Find new ways to take.
    Time to know yourself,
    then become selfless.
    Time for forgiving.
    Let's start living.
    Time to share my wish ...
    to not go on like this.

    Repeat Chorus twice.
    7244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614229)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top! :)

    Just doing my duty.
    7245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 614196)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top! :)
    7246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Hard Rock Café (Message 614177)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But you know, I don't think it's always gotta be loud to be Hard Rock. Sometimes the "edge" is in the voice, in the hard-driving rhythm.

    Agreed.
    7247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where's Domi and Ziggy? - CLOSED! (Message 614049)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone heard from them lately?

    I haven't seen Domi around since they got back from their trip to Florida.

    I hope they're okay.


    They said they were sick of propellor-heads and there was the use of the word "choad" at some point earlier.
    7248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 614047)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wie geht es?
    7249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 613849)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chaotic Team Member

    蔡李佛


    You seem to be wondering about the skull....lol

    Just an award when you join the team. :-)


    Welcome. :)
    7250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 613759)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dan,
    Your poem inspired me. How about this:

    I don't think they get it...

    They claimed Discrimination....
    I don’t think they get it...
    Claimed Abusive Behavior,
    I don’t think they get it...
    And they said they’re Still Waiting, but
    I don’t think they get it.

    Their gluttony was immense
    I don’t think they get it...
    They went to café’s,
    I don’t think they get it...
    Iced Tea Shops and Ladies Country Clubs
    I don’t think they get it...

    They speak of Power Trips, Misogyny, Evil of others;
    I don’t think they get it...
    Then off to Shoe parlors, Tea Bistros, Starbucks, and an Old English Inne,
    Though I don’t think they get it...
    They claim (in French) that it isn’t a café,
    I don’t think they understand it...

    They asked for Deletion, they told us Goodnyt.
    I don’t think they get it...
    They told us what spam is,
    They clearly don’t know that...
    And one got her answer, but
    I don’t think she “gets” it...

    All it took was a click!
    I don’t think they get it...
    Their pranks were just null,
    I don’t think they get it...
    But peace has returned
    I do hope they keep it.


    Not as artistic as yours, huh Dan.


    LOL
    7251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 613740)
    Posted 3 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Mr Elbow. Please suggest captions for this one, taken recently by my brother-in-law:


    Copyright 2007 Mike Swift.


    Sir Michael Roberts, pointing to the seven-fold path of good and righteous postings.
    7252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 613602)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of waking up early, I woke up earlier than planned this morning and could not fall back to sleep because it was already so hot. :(
    7253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613599)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If it's before coffee, it's got to be drivel, for any of us. :)

    I agree. So, before coffee, are any of us capable of anything other than drivel?

    If it's not Scottish, it's crap!

    Scottish coffee? You sure mean a mug of strong coffee with one or two ounces of Scotch in it? drivel drivel :-)


    If it's not Scottish, it's crap!

    If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
    7254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613561)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If it's before coffee, it's got to be drivel, for any of us. :)

    I agree. So, before coffee, are any of us capable of anything other than drivel?

    If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
    7255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613552)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I post drivel?

    Obviously you can, the question is, are you capable of posting anything that is not drivel?

    Now, now, Tom. We all know that's a flame. Be a good boy. :)

    Not at all. It was a legitimate post in response to his own question. He brought it up, I just responded. His answer could be yes, or no, or he could post something that is not drivel.

    If it's before coffee, it's got to be drivel, for any of us. :)
    7256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613548)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I post drivel?

    Obviously you can, the question is, are you capable of posting anything that is not drivel?

    Now, now, Tom. We all know that's a flame. Be a good boy. :)
    7257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613524)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Can I post drivel ?


    You can even post ::waves:: to cRunchy! :)
    7258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 613487)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ::waves:: to Beets.
    I hope it is ok to ::wave:: to Beets, since I am no longer allowed to ::wave:: to cRunchy.
    7259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 613459)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Swimsuit Edition (Message 613376)
    Posted 2 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Wa we wa wo

    Post your swimsuit pics here unless they are too weird!



    .


    Dang, that one on the left is HAWT!
    Wassup, Lisa Moore?
    7261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 613207)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nurse Olga celebrates being Seti@home User of the Day in style.

    That's not very nice to Nurse Olga!
    7262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 613205)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brighton Police Helicopter Chases UFO

    http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?topic=893.msg1118#msg1118


    10 minute chase, but we do not see that much of it. The video seems to be going back forth between daytime and night, but I suppose the ones that look like they were filmed in daylight were on ... I dunno ... not infrared, but you get my drift. Maybe infradead or ultraviolent?
    7263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612977)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    I'm not sure it's legal to have alcohol in this coffee and tea joint.


    Its all your fault anyway or driving us to it!


    But I liked the movie, K-PAX. :)
    7264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612967)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Had milk


    I like milk


    especially in tea




    Milk goes in coffee, not tea. :P
    7265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612962)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    I'm not sure it's legal to have alcohol in this coffee and tea joint.
    7266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Common Phrases Turned Around (Message 612854)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.


    For every reaction, there was a initial action.


    Reductio ad absurdum.
    7267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612853)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you catch on fire with the BBQ, Tim, do what I do!
    Jump in the Pacific Ocean!

    7268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 612852)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tom, you really didn't have to throw me in the Pacific Ocean!

    7269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612846)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Misfit and I had a chance to speak civilly, about the movie K-PAX, over at the Calm Chaos chat room! :)

    7270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612845)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Myself, I will avoid beer tonight.

    But will beer avoid you?

    Yes.
    7271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 612843)
    Posted 1 Aug 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone notice a difference in the type of numbering, etc. ... that's on ... well, whatever it is, lens, window, whatever ... before and after the so-called ship is spotted?
    7272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612719)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be it cold or be it hot...Sarge's Super Strong Coffee Joint has got alot!

    (suggested jingle lyrics for promotional campaign)


    LOL!
    Who's going to sing it? You or me?
    Having heard you sing one of your songs, I am willing to bet if we did a duet it would sound rather like Gilmour and Waters.


    i've got a 'sustain pedal' that'll do thE trick (for the Gilmour Voices) ;)



    Oh, I can sustain. These days, with being so busy on other things, not singing often and etc. ..., the problem is less of a range than before and I sound raggedy sometimes. :(
    7273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612718)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be it cold or be it hot...Sarge's Super Strong Coffee Joint has got alot!

    (suggested jingle lyrics for promotional campaign)


    LOL!
    Who's going to sing it? You or me?
    Having heard you sing one of your songs, I am willing to bet if we did a duet it would sound rather like Gilmour and Waters.


    i've got a 'sustain pedal' that'll do thE trick (for the Gilmour Voices) ;)



    Oh, I can sustain. These days, with being so busy on other things, not singing often and etc. ..., the problem is less of a range than before and I sound raggedy sometimes. :(
    7274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612715)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Myself, I will avoid beer tonight.
    7275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612714)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be it cold or be it hot...Sarge's Super Strong Coffee Joint has got alot!

    (suggested jingle lyrics for promotional campaign)


    LOL!
    Who's going to sing it? You or me?
    Having heard you sing one of your songs, I am willing to bet if we did a duet it would sound rather like Gilmour and Waters.
    7276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612687)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    haha ... coffee -and- tea joint!!!!?

    Yes, I also serve tea here. :)
    7277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Common Phrases Turned Around (Message 612540)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can one turn around "six of one or a half dozen of the other"?


    Certainly if its a bakers dozen


    Nice response!
    7278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Hard Rock Café (Message 612538)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Monster Magnet - Negasonic Teenage Warhead

    The Four Horsemen - Rockin' Is Ma Business

    PS Hey Beets! What's the deal with all the specialized Cafe and Music threads around the Cafe??? Did I miss something? Seems kinda redundant. Not bvlaming you just figured I'd ask the Canuck! lol


    Urban development. One guy started up a new Cafe, and then the rest followed suit. ;)


    I hope I wasn't the first to follow suit. :)


    You, follow a Suit?! Not in this lifetime! LOL


    I look good in a suit.
    7279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612535)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The last two weeks life is fallin' like rain...gimme a beer to ease the pain...Gimme some whiskey...give me a glass...i'll drink beyond drunk and i'll do it fast.


    To Better Days!!!
    7280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Hard Rock Café (Message 612529)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Monster Magnet - Negasonic Teenage Warhead

    The Four Horsemen - Rockin' Is Ma Business

    PS Hey Beets! What's the deal with all the specialized Cafe and Music threads around the Cafe??? Did I miss something? Seems kinda redundant. Not bvlaming you just figured I'd ask the Canuck! lol


    Urban development. One guy started up a new Cafe, and then the rest followed suit. ;)


    I hope I wasn't the first to follow suit. :)
    7281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Common Phrases Turned Around (Message 612522)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can one turn around "six of one or a half dozen of the other"?
    7282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 612520)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this is my favourite....

    Which thing is your favo(u)rite and in what sense?
    7283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Swimsuit Edition (Message 612360)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This commercial?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIOE0MR99oM

    or this one...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySN_plfiNI


    :D




    .


    The first one. Note the "to the world" part. :)
    7284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Hard Rock Café (Message 612345)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajVLfxD58Is ?
    7285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Swimsuit Edition (Message 612344)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol

    If anyone knows the rules by now it is me but why would anyone want to be a mod anywhere?




    .


    To improve the world, like that Snickers commercial?
    7286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 612343)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is always a nice place to sit down, and have a brew. Whats on tap tonight?

    Take your pick we have got it all and if we dont we can always get it
    from down the street!

    I get my coffee on deserted beaches in Hawai'i with inside out houses. Krikkit, anybody?
    7287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 612341)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo! J!

    J, to the E, to the ERE, yea, dat's MY.
    7288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Swimsuit Edition (Message 612340)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I got red-x'd within 3 minutes of posting this with the original pic.


    http://www.jaunted.com/files/3/borat_swimsuit_cannes.jpg


    :)



    .


    Definitely on the road to a modship! :)
    7289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : .∗~*Seti Wimmin's cafe...CLOSED*~∗. (Message 612338)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought it might get spelled "womyn's" ... ?
    7290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Swimsuit Edition (Message 612335)
    Posted 31 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That might be too much like a BOTD thread.....and we all know what happens when one of those pops up.

    Yeah, next thing you know, MrGray will be a mod!
    So, keep it up, MrGray! :)
    7291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 611969)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Beets.
    7292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611900)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow Look at at all the new Clubs and Cafes!
    Rocky's is the original and the best!
    Always free and plenty of great food, Drink and conversation!

    And we have WIFI Access too!


    Crap, did I forget to mention we have that at Sarge's as well?
    Plus, tea can be iced, luke-warm or piping hot.
    But, there's no denying Rocky's is best. In fact, I am just a franchise/subsidiary in the establishment's basement and attic. :)
    7293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611846)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was already serving tea before you came along, mister! :P ;)

    But is it minty?

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41174&nowrap=true#609917.
    (Except for the non-minty ones.)
    7294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Hard Rock Café (Message 611842)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crank It Up!!!!!







    Rock on, brutha!
    7295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611837)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was already serving tea before you came along, mister! :P ;)
    7296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611809)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey! Here's another Coffee place. Didn't see it before.

    Well, I am one of the biggest coffee drinkers around, so I figure I should open up a place. ;) Good to see you around, Uncle Chuck.


    UC, Sarge . . . 'ello guys

    EXTReMeLY DARK EsprEssO bEin' sErvEd 'ErE . . .

    btw - Thanks for this 'Particular' Super Strong Coffee Joint Sarge . . .





    y/w

    You know Sarge, with all these coffee shoppes around. And me being an English type wot drinks tea, I'm just going to have to do it. Open a tea shoppe.


    But, as I said, we do serve tea here, as well. STRONG tea. :)
    7297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611761)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey! Here's another Coffee place. Didn't see it before.

    Well, I am one of the biggest coffee drinkers around, so I figure I should open up a place. ;) Good to see you around, Uncle Chuck.


    UC, Sarge . . . 'ello guys

    EXTReMeLY DARK EsprEssO bEin' sErvEd 'ErE . . .

    btw - Thanks for this 'Particular' Super Strong Coffee Joint Sarge . . .





    y/w
    7298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611718)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, I'm drinking coffee right now. :)
    7299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611717)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Sarge,
    Is this place named after Rocky Balboa? What have I missed? It's nice to have a place to chat and have a cup of coffee.

    I'll let the His Eminence, our Imperious Leader (Qui-Gon) explain the current shameful turf battle over the name "Rocky," the name of a former poster who passed away. :(
    7300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611716)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey! Here's another Coffee place. Didn't see it before.

    Well, I am one of the biggest coffee drinkers around, so I figure I should open up a place. ;) Good to see you around, Uncle Chuck.
    7301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 611707)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good points,

    I saw this at a friends house and just posted without looking into it. From your comments and the comments attached to the vid on YouTube I now have doubts.

    ML1: I'm sorry for being a jerky and blocking you. I've unblocked you and sincerely apologize. I'm a grump old man sometimes but hope you can forgive me.


    I also wondered why I could not hear the voices, with only seeing text on the screen. It struck me as odd that they would venture a guess right then and there that it had been there billions of years, based on being hit by so many meteors. What was, and is, the frequency of such strikes on the Moon through its history and today?
    7302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to recognize a compulsive liar (Message 611703)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have just been banned for a month for being a feminist and left wing and an anarchist and an atheist and generally unAmerican.

    All this time, I thought you lived across The Big Pond. :)
    7303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611702)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about this thread? Isn't that your thread? Isn't it called "Rocky's"?

    Maybe it was Rocky Balboa. You'll never know for sure, will you? ;)
    Besides, I already made good points in the last post in there before it was hidden.
    FYI, Beets did ask that I change the name on one or two things, just as he asked you. Since I knew my threads would disappear soon anyway, on capricious whims, it did not matter. So, you still have the request Beets made of you to consider.
    7304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611651)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been quite sunny here for over a week.
    7305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to recognize a compulsive liar (Message 611650)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is airing on the Today Show (NBC Network) in a matter of minutes. Tune in quickly if you can.

    Liar. It wasn't on. :-P J/K hehehheeh :-)

    LOL! Nice one!
    7306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to recognize a compulsive liar (Message 611648)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was nearly 4 hours ago that it was on. Perhaps the NBC or MSNBC website has it online?
    7307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611600)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    quick win after work.

    Wow, Mike. What kind of schedule do you work? By my estimate, it was 3:45 p.m. for you when you posted that.


    Yes thats true.

    If you start at 5 am its long enough.


    That would explain it. I figured you must have an early start to your day.
    7308) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Transportation and the Environment. (Message 611582)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It does look that way. Any evidence?


    Last I heard about that, it's just a general design; good for cargo more than people (lots of space in the wing, no windows though).


    Ah, yes, I suppose it could also serve for cargo carrying purposes. Referencing the rest of your post below, what would the pros and cons of this approach vs. trucks be?

    On the train thing, one of the scandinavian countries said that a fast electric train emitted something like 20g of carbon per passenger over 100km (lubricants & stuff I guess) when the electricty was sourced renewably, compared to 60kg for air and a bit less for cars. Massive difference, I didn't realise the rail was that much more efficient.
    I wonder how an electric car would do?


    Very interesting.
    Do you have links or full articles to share on this?
    7309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611578)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    quick win after work.

    Wow, Mike. What kind of schedule do you work? By my estimate, it was 3:45 p.m. for you when you posted that.
    7310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611577)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning Mike, John, Chris, Es and Richard!

    It's a so-so day here weather-wise. I'm off to the bank to stop payment on a bad company that double-bills on my automated withdrawals. Like: enough of that, thank you!


    I'll be back in about an hour.


    Here's some coffee, to start with.



    Morning to you as well, Beets.
    7311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 611558)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, the interference just before it shows is disturbing and even more disturbing is the fact that the linar lander would have had to be virtually motionless to focus on what it did for so long. No evidence of major zooming of the lens to keep it looking that way as the lander would have been moving away from it.
    7312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How to recognize a compulsive liar (Message 611555)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It is airing on the Today Show (NBC Network) in a matter of minutes. Tune in quickly if you can.
    7313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611486)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd like to go to Yosemite myself, some day.
    In the past 8 months, I've done the most travelling I've ever done since I was 18. There's probably more of that to come.
    7314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Grandparents. (Message 611481)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My mother was a French prostitute name Chloe with Webbed Feet?
    Oops, I might not get it.
    You might have been serious this time.
    ???
    7315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611480)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Have you found Jesus yet?"
    "I didn't know I was supposed to be looking for him, Sir."
    7316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 611467)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Little Did He Know That He Was Crossing That River Styx and That, Soon, He'd Be Gratefully ... Dead."
    7317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 611466)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "This Boat Powered Gratefully by the Dead (across the River Styx)."
    7318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611430)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like i came in at a bad time...I'll check in a little later.

    OK it's later...and the room is still cleared out from my last visit...C ya later then.


    You didn't forget to wear deodorant/antiperspirant, did you Dan?

    That must be it...The people are staying away in droves...

    It's safe to return now...I am leaving Rocky's...The stench will soon be cleared.


    I have a simpler solution: here's some Right Guard (or Old Spice, or whatever). :)
    7319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611425)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodnight to those going to bed. Good morning to those waking up, and good day to those that have been up. :-)

    If they are waking up, they are either working a non-standard shift, or are 3 hours east of Germany, which would be ... hell, I dunno where, lol.
    7320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611415)
    Posted 30 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like i came in at a bad time...I'll check in a little later.

    OK it's later...and the room is still cleared out from my last visit...C ya later then.


    You didn't forget to wear deodorant/antiperspirant, did you Dan?
    7321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611365)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've pretty much given up the mochas. Too much fat.
    7322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611330)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...nobody here.

    I'm here, I'm here! :)


    You are?? Now, where did you come from?


    Hey, now. I gave you some props, elsewhere.


    I know. I'm just foolin' around, didn't mean anything bad by it. :)




    I know. I was just kidding, too.
    7323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611316)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come on in!
    7324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611305)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...nobody here.

    I'm here, I'm here! :)


    You are?? Now, where did you come from?


    Hey, now. I gave you some props, elsewhere.
    I think I should have given KM some props, too.
    7325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611299)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while waking up.

    Ah, not so much winning, time this.

    Sorry, but I am. Now.

    Now you see it, now you don't?
    7326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611293)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Caffeine goooooooood!

    Yes.
    I thought you were on vacation?



    4 DAYS only... got back Wednesday.


    :(

    Anywhere nice MrGray ?



    I went backpacking in Yosemite.

    :)


    Great!
    Did it take coffee to keep going during the journey?
    7327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611260)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well...nobody here.

    I'm here, I'm here! :)
    7328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611239)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come on over to the Original Rocky's! Lighten up.
    As Beets says, UP DA FUNSTAS!

    Would that be this thread? Lighten up yourself, Sarge.

    Up da funstas!
    I think the thread is pretty fun, even though a mod tried to hijack it last night.

    Nope, no moderators in your Rocky's thread. And how many requests have you received to close it? It's funny, you didn't even know my friend Rocky--so I don't think your opinion of what he would like is at all valid.

    [EDIT: Look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41174&nowrap=true#610832 and http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41174&nowrap=true#610834. They were originally here and were reasonable responses to posts about dysfunction that were already present in this thread. Once moved into my thread, I edited them to "..." and "Very funny ... ." I am sure you can understand why.]
    I'm sorry, could you remind where I explicitly or specifically called it a Rocky's thread?
    I have seen some of Rocky's posts.
    You should recall that I began posting around Christmas 2005 and had only logged 282 posts by around August or September of 2006.
    So, because I do not know when he passed away, I do not know if I saw his posts while he was alive and actively posting or if I ran across them much later.
    For everything everybody all around has said about him and the posts of his that I have seen, thank you, yes, I do think I can guess what he would or would not have liked.
    (You should also recall that there were two things that surrounded my becoming a more active poster. YOUR Religious Thread and the BOTD debacle. To this day, my posting style has not changed and has not been influenced by anyone except maybe Dan and Chris S who suggests calming/slowing some stuff down from time to time. [EDIT: Beets can claim some credit as well.] How do I post? There are the logical posts. Then there are the zany humor posts. Finally, the demonstrate absurdity by being absurd posts. Heard of Limbaugh?)
    7329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611224)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - I lightened up on the sugar 2 years ago. Between that and virtually never drinking a mocha anymore, I lost 40 pounds! :)
    7330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611223)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    O.K. than you can have the black coffee, zwerg!

    Can I have tea?

    Sure. We particularly specialize in Earl Grey and my own Southern-Thick-as-Molasses tea.
    7331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611219)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come on over to the Original Rocky's! Lighten up.
    As Beets says, UP DA FUNSTAS!

    Would that be this thread? Lighten up yourself, Sarge.

    Up da funstas!
    I think the thread is pretty fun, even though a mod tried to hijack it last night.
    7332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611205)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just in case ya need it, Cap'n ... :



    Come on in!
    UP DA FUNSTAS!

    Is it possible to be a funsta and behave?


    Indeed!
    7333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611201)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just in case ya need it, Cap'n ... :



    Come on in!
    UP DA FUNSTAS!
    7334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611200)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes! Coffee! Let's have some coffee!

    (I do wish you'd change the name of this thread, though.)

    As I told you, under the right circumstances I will remove this thread. Recent events have shown me that those circumstances are not soon in coming. But right now I have my Starbucks grind COSTCO house brand coffee awaiting--and not a moment too soon.

    Come on over to the Original Rocky's! Lighten up.
    As Beets says, UP DA FUNSTAS!
    7335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 611192)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I saw a deadhead sticker on a boat today ... a little voice inside my head said 'cross that moat, you can cross that moat.'"
    7336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 611191)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Just because there's flooding, there's no excuse for not dressing sharply or forgetting your briefcase."
    7337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 611189)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Beethoven. Gosh..it is hard to find funny pics. Here is my offering.



    "After a listening to some Grateful Dead and partaking in some illegal substances, Christopher was sure that, while he nor anyone else could walk on water, he'd find a way to fake it. Unfortunately, he forgot to add the invisibility screen to the boat and the board as he crossed the Thames."
    7338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 611185)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What would be your epitaph?


    He came, he left.


    Then he came back?
    7339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611164)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while waking up.

    Ah, not so much winning, time this.
    7340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611163)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just dropping in to see that this place doesn't fall to far down the page...


    dont worry.


    @ Mike - mi Post (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//forum_thread.php?id=41209&nowrap=true#611150) WAS NOT (in case you may wondEr) ANY Reflection on You Sir!!! just lettin' ya know . . . ;)



    But Mike IS ahead of the game.
    Er sind ein gut mennsch.
    7341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 611160)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I finally managed to get over 450 RAC! :-)

    WOOT!
    7342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611157)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi guys!

    Does anyone here follow baseball closely? I've got a tough little choice to make on one of today's games.


    Tough choice = not being Pete Rose?
    7343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611153)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    aCtually - thErE ARe soME pEoplE WAY AHeAD of thE gaME . . . ;,]



    How far?
    Which game?
    7344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 611152)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aaaaaah, Coffee!
    7345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 611132)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just dropping in to see that this place doesn't fall to far down the page...

    That could never happen. :)
    7346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ok, how about this then? (Message 611125)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do be careful.


    Self edit - Being dealt off line.


    What are we being careful about? :)
    7347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 611120)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think the Haiku in my sig would work pretty well.

    Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome


    The Haiku....not the link you putz.....lmao


    http://www.wordreference.com/definition/putz :)
    No signs of the CC Forums needing an epitaph.
    7348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Self-actualization (Message 611098)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No idea if the numbers are correct, but just remember one golden rule about mental health. It's ok to talk to yours self as long as you don't answer back.


    Hey that sounds like good advice.


    LOL! Do you see any of that happening?
    7349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : cRunchy Is Back. (Message 611095)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry for the interruption.
    You can red-X post's you don't like instead of trashing the thread they are in yourself, and before you say that that is a waste of time, I have been responding to a red-X from a user in tidying this thread up.

    I will remove the above comments a little later so they do interrupt the thread.
    So don't quote them or I will have to remove your post too.


    Keep up the good work, Michael.
    Welcome back, cRunchy, even though I was absent during the events.
    The best thing to do is not even announce when you will be gone for a while. Sometimes, a while turns into weeks, months or forever. If that's what is best for someone, so be it.
    7350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 611089)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, I use AVS, but it's PayWare.

    I also use AVS. It only costs about 30 U.S. dollars.
    7351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 611082)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get ready for the SUNDAY VERSION of super strong coffee!!!
    7352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 610896)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Greetings Tim. Welcome back. I hope your well sir.

    Greetings to Dan, Sarge, and whoever is lurking.

    Sure does feel nice to be in company of friends.


    'Owdy, It's Me ... Again.
    7353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Something to make you smile... (Message 610892)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm on my way

    Lovely song!...I remember that one.

    I think the only one I ever heard by them was "I Would Walk 500 Miles." That one was a song my friend Andy and I considered, a few different times, performing at acoustic open mic, but it never happened.
    7354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 610889)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I borrowed that one from Ice.
    The other was borrowed from Es.
    However, I am trying to follow netiquette and download a copy then put it up in my own site, so that I am not "hotlinking" (?).
    7355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610883)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closed...

    Because Timmy has come home.


    Is it ok to help using this gif, Dan?

    7356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 610881)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just in case ya need it, Cap'n ... :

    7357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Original Rocky's Cafe-Closed (Message 610879)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's that hottie in a straightjacket? :)
    7358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 610877)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump! :)

    Here's a hint about the diagrams:



    and




    More hints:



    7359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Self-actualization (Message 610866)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-actualization#Self-actualization

    Self-actualization

    Self-actualization--invented by Kurt Goldstein, a mentor to Maslow--is the instinctual need of humans to make the most of their abilities and to strive to be the best they can.

    Self Actualization is the intrinsic growth of what is already in the organism, or more accurately, of what the organism is.[2]

    Maslow writes the following of self-actualizing people:

    * They embrace the facts and realities of the world (including themselves) rather than denying or avoiding them.
    * They are spontaneous in their ideas and actions.
    * They are creative.
    * They are interested in solving problems; this often includes the problems of others. Solving these problems is often a key focus in their lives.
    * They feel a closeness to other people, and generally appreciate life.
    * They have a system of morality that is fully internalized and independent of external authority.
    * They have discernment and are able to view all things in an objective manner.

    In short, self-actualization is reaching one's fullest potential.

    According to Maslow, the tendencies of self-actualizing people are as follows:

    1. Awareness

    * efficient perception of reality
    * freshness of appreciation
    * peak experiences
    * ethical awareness

    2. Honesty

    * philosophical sense of humor
    * social interest
    * deep interpersonal relationships
    * democratic character structure

    3. Freedom

    * need for solitude
    * autonomous, independent
    * creativity, originality
    * spontaneous

    4. Trust

    * problem centered
    * acceptance of self, others, nature
    * resistance to enculturation - identity with humanity

    [edit] Self-transcendence

    At the top of the triangle, self-transcendence is also sometimes referred to as spiritual needs. Spiritual Needs are a little different from other needs, accessible from many levels. [3]

    Maslow believes that we should study and cultivate peak experiences as a way of providing a route to achieve personal growth, integration, and fulfillment. Peak experiences are unifying, and ego-transcending, bringing a sense of purpose to the individual and a sense of integration. Individuals most likely to have peak experiences are self-actualizing, mature, healthy, and self-fulfilled. All individuals are capable of peak experiences. Those who do not have them somehow suppress or deny them.

    Maslow originally found the occurrence of peak experiences in individuals who were self-actualizing, but later found that peak experiences happened to non-actualizers as well but not as often:

    I have recently found it more and more useful to differentiate between two kinds of self-actualizing people, those who were clearly healthy, but with little or no experiences of transcendence, and those in whom transcendent experiencing was important and even central… It is unfortunate that I can no longer be theoretically neat at this level. I find not only self-actualizing persons who transcend, but also non-healthy people, non-self-actualizers who have important transcendent experiences. It seems to me that I have found some degree of transcendence in many people other than self-actualizing ones as I have defined this term…[4]

    In 1969, Abraham Maslow, Stanislav Grof and Anthony Sutich were the initiators behind the publication of the first issue of the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroticism

    Neuroticism is a fundamental personality trait in the study of psychology. It can be defined as an enduring tendency to experience negative emotional states. Individuals who score high on neuroticism are more likely than the average to experience such feelings as anxiety, anger, guilt, and depression (Matthews & Deary, 1998). They respond more poorly to environmental stress, and are more likely to interpret ordinary situations as threatening, and minor frustrations as hopelessly difficult. They are often self-conscious and shy, and they may have trouble controlling urges and delaying gratification. Neuroticism is related to emotional intelligence, which involves emotional regulation, motivation, and interpersonal skills (Goleman, 1997). It is also considered to be a predisposition for traditional neuroses, such as phobias and other anxiety disorders.

    Contents

    * 1 Emotional stability
    * 2 Measurement
    * 3 Physiology
    * 4 Reference
    * 5 See also

    [edit] Emotional stability

    On the opposite end of the spectrum, individuals who score low in neuroticism are more emotionally stable and less reactive to stress. They tend to be calm, even tempered, and less likely to feel tense or rattled. Although they are low in negative emotion, they are not necessarily high on positive emotion. That is an element of the independent trait of extraversion. Neurotic extraverts, for example, would experience high levels of both positive and negative emotional states, a kind of "emotional roller coaster." Individuals who score low on neuroticism (particularly those who are also high on extraversion) generally report more happiness and satisfaction with their lives.

    [edit] Measurement

    Neuroticism is typically viewed as a continuous trait, rather than a distinct type of person. People vary in their level of neuroticism, with a small minority of individuals scoring extremely high or extremely low on the dimension. Because most people cluster around the average, neuroticism test scores approximate a normal distribution, given a relatively large sample of people. Neuroticism is one of the most studied personality traits in psychology, and this has resulted in a wealth of data and statistical analysis. It is measured on the EPQ, the NEO PI-R, and other personality inventories.

    [edit] Physiology

    Neuroticism appears to be related to physiological differences in the brain. Hans Eysenck theorized that neuroticism is a function of activity in the limbic system, and research suggests that people who are high on neuroticism have a more reactive sympathetic nervous system, and are more sensitive to environmental stimulation. (Eysenck & Eysenck, 1985). Behavioral genetics researchers have found that a substantial portion of the variability on measures of neuroticism can be attributed to genetic factors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis

    Several years ago, I heard something along the following lines: only 10% of us are self-actualized; 80% are neurotic to some degree; and 10% are psychotic. (The numbers may have been 20%, 60% and 20%, respectively.)

    I don't know how trustworthy those numbers are.
    Any thoughts?
    Any evidence?

    I have also heard neurosis described more briefly as repeatedly doing things one knows are not healthy for the self.
    7360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610845)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the wrong thread, with no coffee to keep me from the land of nor, and no sight of Timmhay!

    The countdown continues...99 bottles of beer on the wall...99 bottles of beer...take one down and pass it around...there's 98 bottles of beer on the wall...

    Crap. I only have 4. Killian's.
    7361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610834)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Very funny. More and more my points are validated.
    (Now, back to coffee talk.)
    7362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610832)
    Posted 29 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...
    7363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610779)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have extra room in my sleeping bag.
    7364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 610778)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hawai‘i is nice, but any visitors planning a trip should spend no more than two days in Waikiki (too many "hightowers" as Cebion says). There is much more beauty on the outer islands, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i and Maui, though Maui is getting built up more an more.

    I stayed in the "Waikiki Vista" hotel, which was probably beachfront and lived up to its name when first built. Since then someone has built something several times higher between it and the sea!

    If the conference is at the Waikiki Hilton, then you go to Waikiki. Diamond Head looks good to me, despite any towers.
    7365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610741)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can we invite Dune, kenzieB and Stacey Jane, too? ;)
    7366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610735)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]How much is my post 200 worth? pPp ..Can I have a coffee please.. and maybe I shall hide away here for a while... it would be good..


    Congrats on 200 posts.

    Hide under the table its going to be a hairy saturday night...

    ;-) I will...... come and join me for a while.. It has taken me a long time to reach this high amount of posts, so i have to celebrate..just a bit.. :) ..What do you usually do under the table??


    He protects beautiful Norwegian women from charmers like me.
    He says my own Dad did not raise me right, so he has to look out for me, instead. :)
    7367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610728)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ewww.
    That's all I've got to say.
    (P.S. - that has nothing to do with recent posts in here.)
    7368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610661)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once you've found Waldo, find Sarge.
    (Hint: I am now in Location 4.)
    7369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610636)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are we smoking, or is this a coffee joint to meet at?


    Hey, lets all get clay pipes and start up a second LLoyds.


    I'll undertake to do that.


    Just e[i]nsure you do...




    Wow. That joint looks rather spacious.
    7370) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Transportation and the Environment. (Message 610615)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It does look that way. Any evidence?
    7371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610560)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My coffee had nothing to do with it.
    The coffee I sell stimulates intensively deep and productive thought.
    7372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 610554)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoah! This one is REAL hard to pick a winner on!

    I Loved Kenzie's: "...days later, from his hospital bed, Larry still didn't understand why Extreme Shark Diving never caught on..."

    and Thorin's "Wanna bet I can kick your nose before you bite me?"

    But the one that caught the spirit of the whole thing, and cracked me up, was...


    "Geronimoooooooooo..."


    So, Jeffrey, you're the winner! Congrats!


    I hope you've got a funny pic. To you, mah man!





    Kenzie's was the best, all around. Great, off-beat humor like from some of the best Sunday comics.
    Thorin's displayed an attitude - dark humor.
    Jeffrey's may have caught some Spirit, as he is often trying to do, but, sorry, "Geronimo" is just so unoriginal.
    7373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 610535)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought the topic was ice cream?
    7374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610534)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 610416)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    !gninniW
    7376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Coffee Club II (Message 610414)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't Hawai'i beautiful?










    (I nominate the woman in the center of the above pic for BOTD!)



    I wonder if Rocky ever got to go there?
    7377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 610390)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hit a school bus once.....my hand controls failed....my brother rear-ended the town judge.

    None speed related-although I do like to drive 'bout 10 mph above the speed limit in most cases...


    You should be more careful.
    7378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Celebrating my 10,000th post!!! (Message 610333)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But have you actually SAID anything?
    Or are you just like Misfit and post, post, post and never say anything? ;)

    The government made me do it.


    Well, the government is good at doing things that accomplish nothing. You've been trained well.

    But enough off-topic nonsense. CONGRATS Jeremy!!!


    Crap.
    You got away with this?
    I wanted to respond to you, quoting you, only to find you'd been modded and that my post had to be modded, too, as it would have quoted a deleted post!
    7379) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Transportation and the Environment. (Message 610329)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Boeing’s experimental X-48B plane prepared for testing. The unmanned, blended-wing aircraft recently flew for the first time, reaching an altitude of 7,500ft (2,300m). The innovative design is quieter and more fuel efficient than conventional aircraft.

    Military or commercial plans?
    7380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Celebrating my 10,000th post!!! (Message 610306)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way to go!
    7381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Philanderers Cafe - NOW CLOSED for Deconstruction! (Message 610299)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave

    By definition, is not a philanderer one that has not behaved?


    Given the defenition of philanderer, I wonder what you are after in your posting..........

    have casual affairs with women: to flirt with and have casual sexual affairs with many women, especially when married to another woman

    [Late 17th century. < Greek philandros "loving men" < andr- "man"]

    Especially condsidering that rugby bunch.


    It's quite simple. I find casual affairs with many women, especially when married to another woman, to be poor behavior. Which goes back to the opening post, though the opening post was meant in good humor.
    7382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610292)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was taken last June, in Kansas. (Shhhhhh! don't tell Jeremy!).

    Tell him what? :)
    7383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610281)
    Posted 28 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Few pix could look as simultaneously terrifying and beautiful/idyllic.
    7384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610170)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be Good Boy!

    Arrr-woof! :)
    7385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Philanderers Cafe - NOW CLOSED for Deconstruction! (Message 610164)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I once saved some stamps. And saved my head from getting too wet with the fortuitous use of an umbrella.


    I don't understand...

    You cashed your stamps in for an umbrella? Or did you make an umbrella by pasing stamps all over the top of your head?

    I was being a philanderer. Philandering here, and philandering there. Philandering everywhere...


    You mean a philatelist.



    EEK! Is that "Child Friendly"?


    A philatelist is a stamp collector. I would expect my contemporaries and elders to know this.
    Philadelphia is also kid friendly.
    The movie? Not so much.
    7386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 610163)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And remember, Beets, you can create, and post in, whatever thread you want, "so long as you behave." :)
    7387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610155)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Philanderers Cafe - NOW CLOSED for Deconstruction! (Message 610153)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I once saved some stamps. And saved my head from getting too wet with the fortuitous use of an umbrella.


    I don't understand...

    You cashed your stamps in for an umbrella? Or did you make an umbrella by pasing stamps all over the top of your head?

    I was being a philanderer. Philandering here, and philandering there. Philandering everywhere...


    You mean a philatelist.
    7389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 610151)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So that's what I keep bumping in to in this jungle?

    LOL!
    Afternoon?
    Night?
    Delight?
    Sky rockets in FLIGHT!

    Rockets?




    I cannot see the fireworks for the tree. ;)
    7390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610149)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ♥

    I just wanted to see if I could make a red heart from Mystique's name


    Big red hearts all around in the Super Strong Coffee Hangout.
    7391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Philanderers Cafe - NOW CLOSED for Deconstruction! (Message 610128)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Only in their mind, and outside this thread.

    This is the place where they rest from the partner, or demented other!


    Guess who will post here, soon, then? :)
    7392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610125)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all this strong minty coffee about, who is eating the grounds?

    Scooby Doo.
    7393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 610119)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why can't I have some hot fudge and vanilla ice cream?

    Quit whining, behave, and maybe you can. :)
    7394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 610118)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So that's what I keep bumping in to in this jungle?

    LOL!
    Afternoon?
    Night?
    Delight?
    Sky rockets in FLIGHT!
    7395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Philanderers Cafe - NOW CLOSED for Deconstruction! (Message 610116)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave

    By definition, is not a philanderer one that has not behaved?
    7396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 610097)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    Dune bad.
    Dune can't play nice.
    Dune go into corner.


    Can't see the forest for the tree? ;)
    7397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 610096)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    Dune bad.
    Dune can't play nice.
    Dune go into corner.

    Have you been mooded today? :)
    7398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610048)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this thread as strong as the last brownie thread you had?

    I do not do brownies. :)
    7399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610041)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donchya just love the dismissiveness of the tone in such a phrase?

    Well as the Mock Turtle said: "Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense."

    That would be rather dismissive, as well. :)
    7400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610035)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Donchya just love the dismissiveness of the tone in such a phrase?
    7401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610031)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6) Message boards : : Team invites : PM used for spam by at least one team (Message 3092)
    Posted 47 days ago by Misfit Saenger, since you brought it up you were banned by SETI admin for thread spamming. The moderators had nothing to do with this. Repeatedly posting deleted posts/threads is spam and is a bannable offense - to which admin acted on their own. You have posted your PM Spam posts across multiple projects and multiple forums. That makes you a spammer; especially in your own words. I am now, by Saenger's definition of spam, receiving unsolicited (spam) PM's at SETI by his teammate pschoefer from SETI.Germany. The hypocrisy increases. I wonder how many more I will get! As for your conspiracy theories that's just crazy talk.
    7402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610027)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LMAO! You people are crazy! (or stoned..or possibly both)

    Don't touch the stuff.
    And "crazy" is a word bandied about a bit too easily.


    "That's just crazy talk!"


    LOL


    I see I made yet another one of my points. ;)
    7403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610026)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, as we consider "Self Actualized" vs. "Neurotic" vs. "Psychotic" --- don't the neurotics make up a majority of the population? If so, what makes, say, someone in ... oh, Denmark, qualified to judge? :)

    I am not from Denmark though..and so probably not qualified to judge your metal health...but if you are all wealthy perhaps we can allow that you are all eccentric?

    Metal Health?
    Wasn't that the sub-title to "Bang Your Head" by "Quite Right"?
    7404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610015)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, as we consider "Self Actualized" vs. "Neurotic" vs. "Psychotic" --- don't the neurotics make up a majority of the population? If so, what makes, say, someone in ... oh, Denmark, qualified to judge? :)
    7405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610013)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LMAO! You people are crazy! (or stoned..or possibly both)

    Don't touch the stuff.
    And "crazy" is a word bandied about a bit too easily.
    7406) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 610011)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boot em all out.

    :D


    I totally agree. Vote out every single elected person in Wash. DC, and replace them all with new people. Furthermore, I would argue for STRICT term limits on ALL of those offices as well. In my opinion, one term then you are out for good.

    This would get rid of all the corruption and other tomfoolery that goes on in Wash. DC.


    No such things occur.
    S'all good.
    No worries.
    7407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 610010)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An espresso-flavored joint? Hey! That's a new one for me!

    Pass the Spliff, Sarge!


    Joint = establishment.
    1920's lingo.
    7408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Being British (Message 610004)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If Seti and Berkeley were in England....
    1. We'd have stormed the barricades months ago
    2. We'd have sacked half the Mods
    3. We'd have a proper forum by now
    Then again, it's run by the Yanks so we dream on....
    p.s. If this post lasts more than 1 hour, $25 will go to Seti.

    Pfffft. What actually would have happened is that you would have whined to the gov't to save you from SETI, and decided to pass laws to not only save YOU from it, but to save those poor souls that don't know any better and actually liked and enjoyed it from it.

    That seems way more likely.


    Pffft. Nobody expects the unexpectedness of the Don Quixote-like Spanish Inquisition. Nobody. Not one single person. Hurry. Choose. Then get to it. People are inquisiting. Pffft. Thank geepus.
    7409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 610000)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Streaker Patrol:




    Eminem and Dr. Dre, yo?!
    7410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609999)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Caffeine goooooooood!

    Caffeine sandwich would be good

    A la mode?
    7411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609995)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Caffeine goooooooood!

    Yes.
    I thought you were on vacation?
    7412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609986)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    eRRR, I mean ... Cebion for mod! :)
    7413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 609975)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!!!

    LOL. Maybe I should sell some for thrupence a scoop




    'ere yer are mister, I've been good all week, 'onest I 'as

    Excellent! And you don't have to be good. Just behave yourself. And that doesn't apply to you Chris, 'cause you know that already. Didn't need to be told I expect.

    But Everyone is welcome here, as long as they behave.



    Plus, everyone is behave here, so long as they are welcome. :)
    7414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609967)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello@all!

    .. on sunny day and by my first mail I bring the


    I nominate Batgirl for BOTD.
    7415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609931)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A place to go to when you're feeling MOoDy.
    7416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609927)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge kicks out Sarge for being a naughty boy.
    "Don't you EVER come back!"

    More coffee for me. Yea!!!

    "Watch out," it is very strong. "Watch Out's" espresso is applied heavily.

    Will it give me bad breath?

    It's minty.

    Like my ice cream eh? ;)

    Yes, indeedy.
    7417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609926)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    NEWS HeADLINe: Berkeley Avatar

    ~ editOr ~ watCh out!

    thE mOOd CafE rECEntly was awardEd thE 'cOOl prizE'



    CopyrightEd 2007 Berkeley Avatar News



    "Do not question" the "Cool Prize" awarded by Berkeley!
    7418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609917)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge kicks out Sarge for being a naughty boy.
    "Don't you EVER come back!"

    More coffee for me. Yea!!!

    "Watch out," it is very strong. "Watch Out's" espresso is applied heavily.

    Will it give me bad breath?

    It's minty.
    7419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609916)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like a pendulum?
    7420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609913)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this cafe needs some cool psychedelic lighting.
    7421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609912)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    cOOl . . .



    I think this will be a weekend for co0l mo0ds! :)

    Can my MoOds swing?


    They swing both ways?
    7422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609909)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge kicks out Sarge for being a naughty boy.
    "Don't you EVER come back!"

    More coffee for me. Yea!!!

    "Watch out," it is very strong. "Watch Out's" espresso is applied heavily.
    7423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 609905)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!!!

    LOL. Maybe I should sell some for thrupence a scoop

    I want butterscotch AND caramel on top!

    OK. But only if you behave while posting here!


    Ooooh, oooh, it's so hard. I can be such a naughty boy.
    7424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609902)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    cOOl . . .



    I think this will be a weekend for co0l mo0ds! :)
    7425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 609901)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!!!

    LOL. Maybe I should sell some for thrupence a scoop

    I want butterscotch AND caramel on top!
    7426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609899)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge kicks out Sarge for being a naughty boy.
    "Don't you EVER come back!"
    7427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : thE mOOd CafE . . . (Message 609897)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    Waz ur mO0d, d0Od?
    7428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ice's cream parlor (Message 609894)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone can post here, so long as you behave.

    I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!!!
    7429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Acoustic Open Mic Club (Message 609888)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everyone is welcome here, so long as they behave.
    (Thread created upon supernatural request --- Sarge is known for dealing in copious amounts of the strongest of coffees.)
    7430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609857)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm smoling now, but still cannot get a decent win.

    Hi there Tim!


    Are you smoking at work?!?


    sure why not?


    LOL. I meant John.
    It's illegal here, within the last 20 years.


    I know what you meant.


    Then again, what did John mean by "smoling"?
    7431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609856)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning Mike, Beets, Sarge and all.

    Off to work. See ya in 16 or so.


    Big hug!
    7432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Idea for BOINC and seti@home (Message 609821)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello All,

    I was just at one of my favorite computer stores the other day ... MicroCenter. Anyway, I noticed that they have almost 30 computers and laptops running as demo computers. I really think stores like MicroCenter and Best Buy should install BOINC on those computers and create teams. I just keep thinking if 1000 best buys run BOINC ... look at all the research that could be done. With no increase of power usage.

    The main problems I see is that the computers would need Internet Access, but this should not be a problem with the Laptops. Another problem I see is that the computers might sell, but demo computers usually are not sold.

    So if anyone has any good contact info you might want to email these companies.

    Oh well. If this idea was posted before, please ignore.

    Christopher.


    Actually, the desktop I bought in April 1997 was a demo and this laptop I bought in May 2005 was also a demo.
    7433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609818)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm smoling now, but still cannot get a decent win.

    Hi there Tim!


    Are you smoking at work?!?


    sure why not?


    LOL. I meant John.
    It's illegal here, within the last 20 years.
    7434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609792)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I´m planning a trip for my vacation in two weeks.

    Any ideas?


    You get another vacation already?!? Lucky man.
    7435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609791)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm smoling now, but still cannot get a decent win.

    Hi there Tim!


    Are you smoking at work?!?

    (P.S. - Hi, Misfit! ::waving::)
    7436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Foiled (Message 609760)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmmn. I've been gone all day, so before I post there I'd like to ask...


    Qui-Gon says he opened Rocky's Cafe II "by request". By whose request? Tim's? Or is this akin to the thread-title hijack I suffered with "Beethoven's V"?

    If anyone here knows, that is. :)


    Rocky contacted Qui-Gon from the "other side."
    7437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Foiled (Message 609759)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are quite right Beets!

    I was foiled, and it keeps the evil radiation away from my brain!

    I am completely sane!

    I know I am!


    Like that movie, "Signs."
    7438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 609751)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am, and my 52 fatal crashes in the last 65 years of driving prove I am good!

    You drive a landspeeder on Tatooine. All you killed were a few Jawas. :)
    7439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 609745)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And of course, 'every' driver considers themself to be 'the best driver in the world'... And not just the young show-off hot-heads.

    Perhaps putting quotes around 'every' was to indicate you do not really mean such a sweeping generalization.

    Do you not consider yourself to be a "good and conscientious driver"?

    Regards,
    Martin

    7440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609742)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Espresso!
    7441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK where is it (Message 609740)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    It's over there.


    nopE - iT's ovEr 'ErE . . .



    Keep-a-way?




    jEst kiddErz . . . ;')



    That's a very m'odd picture. :)
    7442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You got your answer Nobody (Message 609739)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    knOCk knOCk . . .



    'ing on heaven's door.


    . . . put i guns in thE ground . . . i Can't do this anyMorE . . .



    I can't moahwoahohodd here ... anymowoahore.
    7443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609723)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    lEt's hEar iT for ROCKY . . . Top 'o thE Morn' ta ya . . .



    ROCKY!!!
    ROCKY!!!
    ROCKY!!!
    7444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You got your answer Nobody (Message 609721)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    knOCk knOCk . . .



    'ing on heaven's door.
    7445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK where is it (Message 609719)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    It's over there.


    nopE - iT's ovEr 'ErE . . .



    Keep-a-way?
    7446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609699)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's the Eye of the Tiger! :)
    7447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You got your answer Nobody (Message 609689)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Now that he has his answer, are there any other questions?


    QUeRIe . . .?


    For whom does the bell toll?


    For Cliff Burton, apparently.
    7448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . havE you got a hEadaChE (Message 609687)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    tiME 4 thE CoffEE . . .



    COFFEE!!! :)
    7449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609578)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, u spammer!


    I took a course in it at a learning annex in San Diego.

    Who was your teacher?????


    Some low level government lackey needing some extra money, I think.

    Ahh I see.


    The course included how to track down profiles of inactive users.
    7450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Daily Funnies - Part III (Message 609576)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's pretty funny!
    7451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609573)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, u spammer!


    I took a course in it at a learning annex in San Diego.

    Who was your teacher?????


    Some low level government lackey needing some extra money, I think.
    7452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Give Us A Caption! - CLOSED (Message 609571)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Did someone say invent a contraption?
    7453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . havE you got a hEadaChE (Message 609569)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Usually, yes.
    7454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 609568)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have a nice RAC but know many have a nicer one!

    Post here so we can see your RAC!

    :D




    .

    Not sure how much nicer it is but it is a bit higher.


    Hiamps for mod!
    7455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is Free Will An Illusion? (Message 609566)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who knows?
    7456) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rain in England today (Message 609565)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Again?
    7457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You got your answer Nobody (Message 609564)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now that he has his answer, are there any other questions?
    7458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK where is it (Message 609563)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's over there.
    7459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 609561)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Got any nicve Moooo type numbers that I can Moooo along to?

    Moo?
    7460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Where is the next Sinclair? (Message 609560)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Timex Sinclair 2000 with 2K memory.
    7461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Monday (Message 609559)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Manic Monday.
    7462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Right in the Funny Bone (Message 609558)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hate it when my arm smashes against something and the funny bone hurts.
    7463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Name that flic! (Message 609556)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Die Hard?

    Die Hard the Hunter!
    7464) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 609555)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait. So, we're saying Michael Moore is a sicko?
    7465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 609553)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And of course, 'every' driver considers themself to be 'the best driver in the world'... And not just the young show-off hot-heads.

    Perhaps putting quotes around 'every' was to indicate you do not really mean such a sweeping generalization.
    7466) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old chicken bones show Polynesians came to Chile (Message 609550)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That would be rather odd of them, to stop at Easter Island, wouldn't it?
    7467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A few parting thoughts............... (Message 609547)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone who doesn't like cats is an enemy of mine.


    My kitties don't really have any enemies, but if you don't like them I do suspect they'll strut right by with noses and tails in the air.


    They'll definitely strut with their tails high in the air now to this:


    Thomas Edison Hates Cats


    Almost makes one go candles now, doesn't it?



    And the kitties flea.........


    ???
    7468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Foiled (Message 609544)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (a+b)(c+d)=ac+ad+bc+bd.
    FOIL.
    7469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609542)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, u spammer!


    I took a course in it at a learning annex in San Diego.
    7470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609541)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, you are 1 of a kind. LOL

    Wheres the beer????


    Someone in Germany drank it ALL!
    7471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 609540)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oooh! Oooh! I got a conspiracy 4 ya!


    I'm almost afraid to ask......

    What is it??


    It's a secret!
    7472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 609536)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oooh! Oooh! I got a conspiracy 4 ya!
    7473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe-CLOSED 7-28-07 (Message 609535)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread freaking rules!
    YO, ADRIAN!!!
    7474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Its my birthday. (Message 609533)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ummm
    7475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609527)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh. I forgot. They are kinda ... slow.
    7476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609526)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why isn't someone else winning yet?
    7477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609525)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I continue to be winning.
    7478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609523)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am winning.
    7479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609522)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win.
    7480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations, Derek ... (Message 609516)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dick York.
    Dick Sargent.
    Sha! Right! As if we wouldn't notice!
    Wait a minute. Sargent York?
    7481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations, Derek ... (Message 609515)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Endora Meets Darrin.
    7482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#42 - Aaron Finny CLOSES this thread for RECONSTRUCTION (Message 609513)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NizWhfsNWTM
    7483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations, Derek ... (Message 609511)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... on your really cool al'Kwarizmi!
    7484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 609396)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing completed, Richard.

    Here's a snippet of something I was working on in March 2006:

    Now is the time
    To let it all go
    Let it fade away
    Into the past

    …
    Need for you to know
    Yesterday
    Just can’t last.
    7485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 609393)
    Posted 27 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crushing Me to Lift Yourself (by ... me, July, 1996)

    Subtle as a brick.
    Subtle as a brick.
    Your opinion of me is as subtle as a brick.
    Smashing into a skull so thick.

    It's what you want to do.
    It's what you want to do.
    What you wanted to do to me for so long, it's true.
    Now I know I didn't know *you*.

    I once stood so tall.
    I once stood so tall ...
    in your mind, and it was you that set me up to fall.
    I wasn't tall, nor quite so small.

    You're green with envy.
    You're green with envy.
    You've turned green with envy and focused your energy.
    Angry, you seek the death of me.

    You've become so disturbed.
    You are so disturbed.
    Caught you by surprise, these violent feelings you cannot curb.
    One-way road - rigid wheel - can't swerve.

    Who will be around?
    Who will be around?
    Be around to lift you up after you crush me down.
    No one around ... to make a sound ... .

    (This was written taking a different viewpoint on the same events described in Our Last Mile, which I had written about one month earlier.)
    7486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : To whomever it may concern (Message 609319)
    Posted 26 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, it depends on whether you are aware of the full content or the email containing the "minor content" that you reference.

    No, I'm not, I generally don't pay any attention to that crap. Especially given that you didn't post it here, send it to me, or do anything else other than make generalized and vague comments about an e-mail.

    Maybe you, the FBI or Dr. Anderson might not be interested, but the threat written is very explicit, and copies are being made available to certain parties, and maybe even to the California press next. Who knows, perhaps even Arnie might be horrified at what is happening in Berkeley.

    Well, good luck with that. Especially if you're just sending e-mails.

    Perhaps he needs the publicity, since Posh and Becks are there to soak it all in. I wonder if they are getting the same hate mail right now?

    I would bet that Arnie, Vic, and The Beckster have all gotten their share of hate mail, throughout their public lives.

    Let's just make light of this and laugh about it shall we? While a sick person who has sent explicit threats is having their own sick laugh right now.

    Yeah, well, maybe they are. And if they are, you likely have given them exactly what they wanted.

    For any of you that want to come kill me:
    1833 W Belle Plaine Ave
    Chicago, IL, 60613-1826
    Phone: 716-741-7874, before 11pm CST por favor

    Only until the middle of September though. Then it's off to London. You can come kill me there.


    Interesting.
    716 was the area code for Rochester and Buffalo, NY. Now, Buffalo is too big for its britches and has taken it over completely. Rochester now has the 508 area code or something like that.
    So, either Rush is lying or he's carried a cell phone number from an earlier place of habitation.
    Not that it really matters, though. I don't want to be a Don Quixote. ;)
    7487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dawdling on the distro (Message 602797)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The very definition of the word. ;)


    (intErnEt) ShortEnEd form of distribution.




    Correct.
    And I have to sort through listserv discussions of math education. :(
    7488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dawdling on the distro (Message 602788)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The very definition of the word. ;)
    7489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602787)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... that it's great Pappa is our friend!
    7490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602784)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some on the ... "team" are ... Disconnected ... from reality.
    7491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602777)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're fearless leader is here.
    But who is it?
    7492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602776)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If that was the case, the majority of people would have little to no ability to recall physically or emotionally painful events. But many people can and dp.
    7493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 602665)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see my RAC is bigger yours. :P

    ????? Oh! that RAC.

    The schwartz is strong in this one. ;)
    7494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 602661)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    7495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 602660)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see my RAC is bigger yours. :P
    7496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602658)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good night Mike, and Sarge (fearless leader). I am closing down for a double malt and the sack

    ::waving:: Hi, John!
    7497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602657)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.

    Oh? :)

    Yup.

    If you say so. :)
    7498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602654)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top.

    Oh? :)
    7499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602607)
    Posted 13 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes, you're fighting with the Gods of War.
    7500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602583)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Evening, John.
    7501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602581)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Many here await Better Days.
    Some work for it.
    7502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602579)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An amazing find! We Are the Normal.
    (Go, Buffalo, NY!)
    7503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602578)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes, I feel like it's All Eyes on Me.
    7504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602575)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I Want Out, anybody else?
    7505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602569)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, so you're back? Back for More?
    7506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 602563)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You Think You're Tough.
    (I think these guys are originally from San Diego.)
    7507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602522)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you referring to Mike or you? Oh! fearless leader?

    Time to time out now!

    See you guys!


    Fearless leader! :)
    Who is he or she? :)


    I thought you would like the title. It gives you Factorial 78 (78!) kudos points.

    You can have the claim verified by The Guinness Book of Records, and then published in your local newspaper. Everyone will recognise you for the sheer number of points, which nobody in history had accumulated to date!

    Or do you like to keep anonymous?


    LOL!
    Hmmm. Anonymity. Then the fearless leader would be Nobody?
    :)
    7508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602519)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Last win before going to sleep.

    Have fun.


    Night, Mike!
    7509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602516)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you referring to Mike or you? Oh! fearless leader?

    Time to time out now!

    See you guys!


    Fearless leader! :)
    Who is he or she? :)
    7510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602513)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    winning because i can.

    Yes, you certainly can! :)
    7511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is TLPTP might W # 40 thread - No Black Puddings today! It has gone away! (Message 602510)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Check it out, everybody! Look who's here? :)
    7512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 602466)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've thought about this a great deal... mine would either say:

    "I'm outta here!"

    or simply

    "Ha ha ha ha ha!! So long, suckers!"




    LOL! Good ones, Melt Wreckage.
    7513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602396)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know that it is repression.
    In repression, something is forced down, deeply, quickly and quite forcefully.
    You remember Rebel.
    You're forgetting some details.
    This is natural with memory, considering aging and all the other memories stored within the mind.
    An example of repression would be such as the following:
    My father, mother, older brother and I were on our way to see family in Rochester, NY some time in the 70's. I was trying to open my thermos. I couldn't. Mom tried and couldn't. Dad got frustrated, grabbed the thermos while he was driving and we wound up in a ditch. We were near a farm and some farmer had to come pull us out with his tractor.
    My Dad does not remember this. At all. It was during a time shortly before a rough divorce.
    I mentioned it to my brother many years later. The memories came rolling back for him, allowing him to connect some things about it he had remembered to reconstruct the entire event.
    I have reminded him (my brother) of several things. He's reminded me of a few.
    With time, aging and all the stuff in my head regarding my Ph.D. studies, I'm sure there are things similar that I remembered for a long time but no longer can. But it's not repression.
    7514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602371)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that last pic might be stretching the thread?

    But it's only 738 x 448 pixels, the acceptable maximum being 600 x 800 pixels.

    Maybe it's time you should treat yourself to a nice 19" TFT screen? ;)


    You do remember I am a Ph.D. student, right?

    Oh no, we can't have that Sarge. We already got a Doc. We'll have to call you .... (I think we need a poll or something ;)


    It's quite simple: "Doc Sarge."

    Fine, so long as you let me have my botox.


    That would be a mistaking of Ph.D. for M.D. :)
    7515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602368)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm using a 15" tft flat screen and that pic was fine on mine.

    Can't stay too long, got some very important draft letters to get together.


    But, Chris, I said no, don't write to Eric suggesting me as a mod. ;)


    Why didn't you say so before. Now I've got a wastebin full of scrap paper.

    Doh!


    LOL.
    7516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602365)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of that, I looked at Major's profile last night.
    He's working on a Ph.D. in Astrophysics?!? Kudos, Major!
    But why in the world would you take on a modship during such a busy time? it's difficult enough just having time to read and post.
    7517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602363)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm using a 15" tft flat screen and that pic was fine on mine.

    Can't stay too long, got some very important draft letters to get together.


    But, Chris, I said no, don't write to Eric suggesting me as a mod. ;)
    7518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602358)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that last pic might be stretching the thread?

    But it's only 738 x 448 pixels, the acceptable maximum being 600 x 800 pixels.

    Maybe it's time you should treat yourself to a nice 19" TFT screen? ;)


    You do remember I am a Ph.D. student, right?

    Oh no, we can't have that Sarge. We already got a Doc. We'll have to call you .... (I think we need a poll or something ;)


    It's quite simple: "Doc Sarge."
    7519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602355)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that last pic might be stretching the thread?

    But it's only 738 x 448 pixels, the acceptable maximum being 600 x 800 pixels.

    Maybe it's time you should treat yourself to a nice 19" TFT screen? ;)


    You do remember I am a Ph.D. student, right?
    However, much more money is coming fairly soon.
    (Oh, and laptops with larger screens are prolly a pain to carry. This one's bad enough!)
    7520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 602353)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hey! It's the Jim Beam and Coke guy!


    In honor of our Puerto Rican telescope, shouldn't we be drinking Bacardi and Coke?

    Or better yet Ron del Barrilito neat?


    Eric posting in Rocky's? Sweet!
    7521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 602352)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Morning Dan, John and Sarge!

    It's supposed to be cloudy with rain coming, but actually it's a bright sunny morning, 16 °C. If the weather holds, I'll go sailing this afternoon. I haven't checked the newspapers this morning, but my little Burgh is still standing. That's a good start to the week. :)

    More coffee?



    Sorry I did not get back to this thread sooner.
    Yes, more coffee, please.
    Actually, I am at a coffee shop right now, drinking coffee.
    I didn't leave here until 11 p.m. last night! :)
    For me, it's a great place to work on my dissertation.
    7522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602347)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that last pic might be stretching the thread?
    7523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602346)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess you folks across the pond have some different nursery rhymes. :)
    7524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602209)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woo hoo!

    What are you so happy about??? LOL

    By now, you only have about an hour left.
    Plus, I finished another chapter today!
    7525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602206)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Woo hoo!
    7526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602185)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Psyche!
    7527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 602179)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jes' w4nt3d 2 say, Rich4rd, sorry for h0+l1nkin' dat pic in da 0p3nin' p0s+ 'n' s3nd1n i+ 2 k3nz13.
    7528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 602176)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Oh, the double entendre...


    And that coming from one of the mods...TSK TSK....lmao


    Hey, we mods are only human too, ya know. Personally, I've had to moderate some stuff (here and elsewhere) that had me 'LMAO' as well... I appreciate the original poster's joke. So far, no one has complained about it in a red-x, so....


    No worries Major. I had the same problem when I was a mod. I knew I HAD to mod something....but I thought it was hilarious.....lol

    I just coldn't resist giving you a little flak. :-)


    T think Major is a nice guy.
    7529) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Transportation and the Environment. (Message 602149)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The costs of the train can be incredibly cheaper than the airfare.
    I wonder about the countries with high-speed trains. The USA certainly has little to none of that. In those other countries, how do train vs. plane usages within the country compare? Why? Have any of those decisions been made taking the environment into consideration.
    7530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602137)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yeah so watch out cos i dont know scheisse about German....


    Dont use those words please.

    Or i have to mod you "til then"


    Lay down the law, Mike!

    smite the sinners


    Smite that Al,
    crack that whip.
    Whip him good.
    Whoop that sinner Al good!

    (Note: no Al's felt attacked or were harmed in the above dramatization.)
    7531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602136)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I translated the txt but it makes no sense...
    She asks about Total credit and the just "...."



    "I AM NEW IN THIS AND WANTED TO KNOW IN WHICH IT SAYS TOTAL CREDIT THAT IS ....... SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS SPANISH PLEASE…. GRACIAS"

    Yes, I got that from translation software. I wonder if Tiare is still around?

    I dunnno did PM her a while back,never heard back.
    But have a go.

    I just PMed her. About all I can do I guess. I remember being a noobie around here myself and how confusing it was. Would be ten times worse for someone who doesn't speak the predominant language. :)



    Tiare received a promotion at work and cannot be around anywhere near as much. She told me she would be resigning as a mod, but I do not know if she ever did tender that resignation. (Oh, crap. Is this talking about moderation?)
    7532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Computer Equipment Donations Thread . . . (Message 602101)
    Posted 12 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    so . . . shall there be a 'separate' Religious Thread created also ???


    I'm sure you meant separate Religious forum; I would suggest that there doesn't seem to be a need for it. The new Politics forum can hold discussions of many different political issues. There may be times when things that did not start as political issues may be moved there. Religion has been much less discussed than politics (note the version numbers of the two threads) and threads in the Café rarely devolve into religious discussions. Also, posters in the Politics forum will likely engage in heated arguments, which may be inappropriate in other Café threads.


    yep - and it was simply a 'Suggestion' - based on my experience as a MODerator and the 'Religious' FORUM was indeed always a separate entity from the Cafe (as in Social / etc) - and THEY were usually quite 'heated' discussions revolving around very good discourse - even though 'heated' . . . and sooooo,

    as i said - a 'Suggestion' AND 'of course' it's left up to ADmin . . .


    Yes.
    All good ideas come from there. :)
    7533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602051)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    yeah so watch out cos i dont know scheisse about German....


    Dont use those words please.

    Or i have to mod you "til then"


    Lay down the law, Mike!
    7534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What would be your epitaph? (Message 602025)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    Mine would be, "When asked what he wanted to do when he finished his doctorate, he responded 'Sleep.'"
    7535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602011)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning,again :)

    nightie night, Mike


    I´m not going to sleep.

    The man said night night!


    LOL hehe hey Mike!


    I know Al, but believe me he understood.


    Ich habe, was ihr sagt, verstehen ... or something like that. :)


    not really.


    Not even close? I know Thorin is going to correct me, soon. :(
    7536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 602004)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning,again :)

    nightie night, Mike


    I´m not going to sleep.

    The man said night night!


    LOL hehe hey Mike!


    I know Al, but believe me he understood.


    Ich habe, was ihr sagt, verstehen ... or something like that. :)
    7537) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 602000)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am growing very weary of those who just simply can't hear this. They are disconnected.

    ;)

    "Many miles away, there's a shadow on the door
    Of a cottage on the shore,
    Of a dark,
    Scottish lake...."

    Synchronicity II.
    7538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601997)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said:
    Wassup?

    7539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601993)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wassup?
    7540) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : global warming issue (Message 601951)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.patrobertson.com/. Speaking of religion, just who is Pat Robertson to act like an expert on global warming? He's not a scientist. He's an evangelist. My religious beliefs aside, let's keep the critics of this idea that humanity is causing a rapid increase in global warming to the scientific circle.

    (Note: to the forum cleaners, you will see from the opening post by the thread author that he has connected it to the solar system.)



    Well Mars is too going through a warming phase (measured at least). If this is merely due to enhanced measuring techniques, I don't know.. but it is worth noting.


    Everyone and their mothers have been commenting on global warming (you and I included) and an Earth Sciences major I am not... but I don't think it fair of you or anyone to limit "who" can speak on such subjects.

    I mean, after all, what makes the "media elite" any more an expert on global warming and politics than Pat Robertson?



    They are no more experts and have as much of an agenda as Pat Robertson does, so they are equally suspect.
    7541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Computer Equipment Donations Thread . . . (Message 601935)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    so . . . shall there be a 'separate' Religious Thread created also ???

    Now, Richard, even such a suggestion will make certain people (with reading comprehension problems) think you are trying to keep certain people out of the Cafe. Let's leave the wonderful ideas to our wonderful admins. :)
    7542) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 601889)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'Member when someone had a reading comprehension problem? 'Member? Yeah. That was awesome!!!

    Nothing has changed... They've just been tamed... ;)

    Far from it.
    7543) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mystery Solved: Mars Had Large Oceans (Message 601887)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cool!
    thx for the good read!
    You're welcome! :)

    Just so everyone knows, MrGray and I had both found the same article and posted it in separate forums. Apparently, the two threads were merged. Cool.
    7544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601877)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "only human" - that's almost a racist remark. Can be read as if non-humans were better...
    I'm dwarfish btw. :D


    And:

    I'm winning!


    6 feet and how many inches, Mr. Dwarf? :)
    7545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601875)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thank you Sarge.

    I´m trying to.

    But i´m only human.



    You are one of the better ones.


    Chris stole my podium after only 11 minutes?!?
    Actually, I'm ok with that.
    7546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601867)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thank you Sarge.

    I´m trying to.

    But i´m only human.

    Still 2 houres at work.



    Each of us is precisely that: only human.
    Right now, this human has the podium!
    7547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 601860)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How to appear more intelligent than you are.

    Speak quickly
    Speaking fast is a true indicator of intelligence but it can also be a sign that you have been at the cooking sherry too long.

    Use a large vocabulary
    Having a lot of words at your command is a remarkable sign of intelligence. Dullards are unlikely to bother faking it because it's such hard work.

    Be clear
    Clarity is another pretty obvious indicator of mental capacity. It's tough one to fake, though.

    Wear spectacles
    It's long been known that wearing glasses are believed to shown superior brain capacity. It doesn't, but most people think it does.

    Talk loudly
    This is believed, falsely of course, to be a sign of intellectual strength. It is, in fact, just a sign that you talk loudly.


    "Thank you for sharing your views with us." ;)
    7548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 601849)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To quote Mighty Mouse: "If you want to look smart, hang around with dumb people."

    That gets boring very quickly.

    I think only teachers can do this without getting bored :D

    Are there any teachers around here?


    K




    L-M-N-O-P!
    7549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 601846)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To quote Mighty Mouse: "If you want to look smart, hang around with dumb people."

    That gets boring very quickly.

    I think only teachers can do this without getting bored :D

    Are there any teachers around here?
    7550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Things a bright person can do. (Message 601834)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To quote Mighty Mouse: "If you want to look smart, hang around with dumb people."

    That gets boring very quickly.
    7551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . just wantEd to say (Message 601817)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . just wantEd to say




    Me Too!


    Ditto!
    7552) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 601811)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Probably because of the Explorer fault which leads to the desktop blanking out it's causing on some systems. FWIW, it's run fine on my Win2K guinea pig.

    Alinator


    I got that Explorer fault this morning. It did not seem to cause any problems, though ... ? Things just reappeared after a few seconds.
    On the other hand, one shut down in the last few days. I lowered the CPU % by another 10%. Still think it is a heat issue.
    7553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601809)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning, goodnight to all, see you tomorrow, sometime, maybe, dunno yet. :0)

    Eat plenty of fiber Jeremy...and see how it works out.


    As the constipated mathematician said, "work it out with a pencil!"


    Ewww, John!
    That supposed quote was never covered in my Math History classes.
    7554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601806)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    winning because i´m still able to.

    Du bist ein gut mensch.
    7555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 601803)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My RAC has been in decline

    Join the club...

    Election time is coming up, and da big wigs gotsta do whats da big wigs gotsta do... ;)


    Elections are in November 2008 for us, Jeffrey.

    That said, a lot of people do seem to have the RAC's going up.
    7556) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I have a nice RAC (Message 601801)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmmm RAC DOH!

    Graeme! Where've you been? See your Brain Busters thread. :)
    7557) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 601780)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many people (besides myself) here in the SCIENCE part of the boards want to bash their own heads against the wall over religion??

    I hope the wall is okay... ;)

    'Member when someone had a reading comprehension problem? 'Member? Yeah. That was awesome!!!
    7558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 601773)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi folks.
    Thanks to the tireless work of Eric and others of admin, we now have the new non-SETI science and Politics forums! (Big round of applause!)
    Now, I didn't know they were going to do that when I started this "In the News" thread.
    KWSN - MajorKong has, upon my request, moved several of my posts into that forum, splitting them up into certain individual threads. (Big round of applause for KWSN - MajorKong, as well!)
    Looking at some of the other posts in here, I was not sure what thread to suggest. Plus, what about some of those originally posted by someone else in this thread or the posts that generated some discussion? Any ideas for applicable threads for some of these other posts, dear readers?
    7559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601611)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [quote]Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.


    True.

    And with paint programmes spoof the details!


    Why would we want to do that? I just want to have records of my "golden" posts. ;)


    Dude....you would only need 1 or 2 quick screenshots for those " golden posts ". LMAO


    [Humor On]Now for the following "attack" on Knightmare: Dude, I hate you!!! How dare you say that?!? Why, I oughtta ... !!![/Humor Off]


    You would expect any less of me??? lmao


    [Humor On]I got so upset at your previous post, I quit Calm Chaos ... again! I am sorry, fearless leader, may I rejoin ... again?[/Humor Off].

    Sure...but we do have a 3 strikes, you're out program....lmao


    Oh, felgercarb! :)
    7560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601601)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.


    True.

    And with paint programmes spoof the details!


    Why would we want to do that? I just want to have records of my "golden" posts. ;)


    Dude....you would only need 1 or 2 quick screenshots for those " golden posts ". LMAO


    [Humor On]Now for the following "attack" on Knightmare: Dude, I hate you!!! How dare you say that?!? Why, I oughtta ... !!![/Humor Off]


    You would expect any less of me??? lmao


    [Humor On]I got so upset at your previous post, I quit Calm Chaos ... again! I am sorry, fearless leader, may I rejoin ... again?[/Humor Off].

    (Note: for the easily confused, the above was like "wrestling." No teams were actually harmed or quit in this dramatization.)
    7561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601594)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.


    True.

    And with paint programmes spoof the details!


    Why would we want to do that? I just want to have records of my "golden" posts. ;)


    Dude....you would only need 1 or 2 quick screenshots for those " golden posts ". LMAO


    [Humor On]Now for the following "attack" on Knightmare: Dude, I hate you!!! How dare you say that?!? Why, I oughtta ... !!![/Humor Off]
    7562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Computer Equipment Donations Thread . . . (Message 601575)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not only do the administrators work tirelessly for the project, but they consistently produce wonderful ideas for this forum. Thank you Eric and whomever else among admin is responsible for this great new addition to the website.
    7563) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Thank you, Eric! :) (Message 601564)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not only do the administrators work tirelessly for the project, but they consistently produce wonderful ideas for this forum. Thank you Eric and whomever else among admin is responsible for this great new addition to the website.
    7564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601551)
    Posted 11 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If deleted, I hope at least they will be backed up on disk somewhere. These threads could make interesting reading for some grad student in a couple hundred years.

    But don't you dare suggest that grad student be a female. Some react very strongly to such a notion. ( Not myself, of course. ;) )
    7565) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 601530)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Remember when Chuck suggested Greek philosphers set back science by centuries by believing questions could be answered just by thinking hard?
    7566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601523)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like the auto-delete idea also :)

    Frees up disk space and prevents other things :)


    Heed the wise words of Michael Buckingham. :)
    7567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601495)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Eric's post proposing to auto lock old threads which have not been posted to for 60 days is an excellent idea.

    This should specifically apply to the Cafe, leaving legacy posts in the Science and Number crunching forums alone.

    Regarding the auto-locking of Cafe unused threads. Can the auto-action not extend to autohiding or complete removal to release disc space for the DB?


    A discussion of auto-hiding was requested by Eric when he informed us on the modlist of the new auto-lock policy. After some discussion, Eric decided not to do the auto-hiding at this time.


    We humbly request that you pass on a request that they be auto-deleted.
    It frees up database space. ;)


    I already did suggest that during the discussion, and for exactly that reason.


    Wow! We think alike on some things? We should engage in some further dialogue to share ideas about improving this place. :)
    7568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601489)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Eric's post proposing to auto lock old threads which have not been posted to for 60 days is an excellent idea.

    This should specifically apply to the Cafe, leaving legacy posts in the Science and Number crunching forums alone.

    Regarding the auto-locking of Cafe unused threads. Can the auto-action not extend to autohiding or complete removal to release disc space for the DB?


    A discussion of auto-hiding was requested by Eric when he informed us on the modlist of the new auto-lock policy. After some discussion, Eric decided not to do the auto-hiding at this time.


    We humbly request that you pass on a request that they be auto-deleted.
    It frees up database space. ;)
    7569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601482)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.


    True.

    And with paint programmes spoof the details!


    Why would we want to do that? I just want to have records of my "golden" posts. ;)


    Keeping them on your local machine as screenshots?


    It's like my singing. I love the sound of my own voice.
    Similarly, I love the sight of my own posts.
    I'm rather narcissistic that way. ;)

    (: ?em eveileb uoy oD
    7570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601459)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.


    True.

    And with paint programmes spoof the details!


    Why would we want to do that? I just want to have records of my "golden" posts. ;)
    7571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601453)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Besides, we know that if you want to save something for posterity, you can always take a screen shot.
    7572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Auto-locking threads after 60 days "no activity" (Message 601452)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Eric's post proposing to auto lock old threads which have not been posted to for 60 days is an excellent idea.

    This should specifically apply to the Cafe, leaving legacy posts in the Science and Number crunching forums alone.

    Regarding the auto-locking of Cafe unused threads. Can the auto-action not extend to autohiding or complete removal to release disc space for the DB?


    In fact, let's just have threads that have not posted in after N days just plain get deleted from the database?
    7573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 601397)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while others are whining!
    7574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601324)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh! Congratulations on the 10,000 posts. Good lord you talk a lot! :P

    I'll second that. :D

    sniCkrz . . . oh boy - i bEt i can CongratulatE You First Misfit whEn ya hit 25,000 Posts . . . let's *c* - that's 623 Posts ta go matE . . . ;)))

    Perhaps I should expect more than a t-shirt?


    You reckon you'll still be around by another 600 posts??

    What a brave little person.....


    I've got his t-shirt right here.
    7575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601308)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    On my way to get plenty of that right now! :)
    7576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601303)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Right thinking will be rewarded, wrong thinking will be punished.
    7577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601300)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now the dynamic duo cannot necromance threads!
    I win!!!
    7578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations Eric - ' . . . the algorithm' (Message 601224)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, and congrats, Eric! :)
    7579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congratulations Eric - ' . . . the algorithm' (Message 601223)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Congratulations Dr. Korpela - on another Fine Work of Science . . .

    see this Article in Scientific Newsletter - July 9, 2007 - Radar Blanking' [i]by Jeff Cobb

    < Note: Congratulations to Berkeley Again for the Science . . .



    Copyright © 2007 University of California


    <=== Richard seems pretty connected to the info! ;)
    7580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601220)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Oh! Congratulations on the 10,000 posts. Good lord you talk a lot! :P

    I'll second that. :D


    sniCkrz . . . oh boy - i bEt i can CongratulatE You First Misfit whEn ya hit 25,000 Posts . . . let's *c* - that's 623 Posts ta go matE . . . ;)))




    Don't encourage him, my friend. :)
    oh boy +)

    eh Sarge - call now?




    Lol. Nah, Sarge needs sleep. Sarge took time off from dissertation writing when attractive 24 year old woman said she was taking me to a belated birthday dinner. ;)
    7581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 601209)
    Posted 10 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Oh! Congratulations on the 10,000 posts. Good lord you talk a lot! :P

    I'll second that. :D


    sniCkrz . . . oh boy - i bEt i can CongratulatE You First Misfit whEn ya hit 25,000 Posts . . . let's *c* - that's 623 Posts ta go matE . . . ;)))




    Don't encourage him, my friend. :)
    7582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ". . . a landmark in the history of scientific computing" (Message 601073)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ". . . a landmark in the history of scientific computing"

    The 'TitlE' hEadEr is a Quote from this ArtiClE: A SETI@home Update by Amir Alexander and Charlene Anderson . . . ChECk iT ouT - iT's quitE EnlightEnin' . . .

    Copyright © 1993 – 2007 The Planetary Society. All rights reserved



    © :)
    7583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 601061)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know this received some posts in at least one or two other threads, but maybe someone could post some articles (from free sources?) on cases about: digital articles, digital music/video, etc. ... . One of the things I had in mind for this thread was technology news.
    7584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I like to talk (Message 601011)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dialogue is about people—listening to them, empathizing with them, and humbling ourselves for a moment that we might understand a different view.

    Well said!
    7585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 600889)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Earth smaller than thought

    BONN, Germany, July 6 (UPI) -- German researchers say their discovery that the Earth is smaller than originally thought may have serious ramifications for climate change.

    The difference is minute -- all of five millimeters -- but that is crucial to studying how climate changes the Earth, said researchers at Bonn University.

    Five millimeters (0.2 inches) is less than half the width of an average finger, which may seem negligible in comparison to the earth's diameter of 7,926.3812 miles.

    But "it is essential for the positioning of the satellites that can measure rises in sea level," said lead researcher Axel Nothnagel. "If the ground stations tracking the satellites are not accurate to the millimeter, then the satellites cannot be accurate, either."

    Nothnagel's team worked for two years using radio waves to measure the Earth's diameter, Deutsche Welle reported Friday.

    Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.

    (Please note: if someone could tell me whether cutting and pasting of these articles is improper --- at least when they indicate a copyright, I would greatly appreciate it. I obtain these articles from free websites, as the links I include indicate.)
    7586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 600856)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Heyas Mystique!
    ...and Welcome to Beethoven's! :)
    There's a mistake in that post of mine, btw. Petra is actually in Jorden, not in Syria.
    Here's a pic for you of Al Kazneh, the ancient treasury building in Petra. People think the middle east is all desert, but as you can see, there are mountains in Jorden too. :)

    I have a number of friends and colleagues here that are from Jordan. They made this clear to me a few years ago. (It was not as if I thought all of the Middle East was desert, but they did help me expand my understanding of the different terrains/climates one can find there. Maybe someday I will get to see for myself.)
    7587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 600846)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All around congratulations!
    7588) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 600817)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Knighmare!

    I'm glad you like the place. That means you'll come back often, I hope. :)

    Notice we've added an outdoor patio for people watching and partying!


    I'll come back as often as I am able to. Keep in mind that Death has a tendancy to chase away business though....lol


    Death will behave himself, ...or I'll kill him! LOL


    Sounds like a "Family Guy" episode. :) Or "The Simpsons."


    Hahahah! It does, doesn't it?



    D'oh! Homer killed The Reaper. Woo hoo!
    7589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 600815)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Morning, Mike!


    It's still raining here, 13 °C. No sailing for me today. LOL

    I'll go out to the City Market, to pick up some more pluots, among other things. Have you ever had a pluot? It's a cross between a plum and an apricot. It has a wild fuscia color under its skin and is much sweeter than a plum, don't you think?


    Coffee?



    Heck yeah! Coffee sounds great!
    7590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 600812)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, howdy, folks! :)

    Oops, I forgot to mention ... I'm winning.
    7591) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 600811)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, howdy, folks! :)
    7592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ****BEETHOVEN'S XIII Cafe**** (Message 600678)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks Knighmare!

    I'm glad you like the place. That means you'll come back often, I hope. :)

    Notice we've added an outdoor patio for people watching and partying!


    I'll come back as often as I am able to. Keep in mind that Death has a tendancy to chase away business though....lol


    Death will behave himself, ...or I'll kill him! LOL


    Sounds like a "Family Guy" episode. :) Or "The Simpsons."
    7593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 600658)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My turn on the podium.

    It's all you, Cody. :(
    7594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 600560)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Norwegian hacker says he can bypass AT&T on iPhone

    Fri Jul 6, 2:12 AM ET


    [Caption: The new iPhone is seen inside the Apple Store in New York, June 29, 2007. A well-known hacker claims to have overcome restrictions on Apple Inc.'s iPhone, allowing highly technical users to bypass AT and T Inc.'s network to use the phone's Internet and music features. (Shannon Stapleton/Reuters)]

    MENLO PARK, California (Reuters) - A well-known hacker claims to have overcome restrictions on Apple Inc.'s (Nasdaq:AAPL - news) iPhone, allowing highly technical users to bypass AT&T Inc.'s network to use the phone's Internet and music features.

    In a post dated July 3 on his blog, Jon Johansen, 23, a prolific hacker of consumer electronics gadgets since he was a teenager in Norway, said "I've found a way to activate a brand new unactivated iPhone" without signing up for AT&T service.

    "The iPhone does not have phone capability, but the iPod and Wi-Fi work. Stay tuned!" he wrote on his long-running blog, which is combatively named "So Sue Me." The post was entitled "iPhone Independence Day," a play on the July 4 U.S. holiday.

    The site contained technical details for other hackers, as well as links to software necessary to complete the process.

    One potential use would be for an iPhone user living or traveling outside the United States to access the iPhone's music player and Internet service over Wi-Fi connections without using the phone.

    AT&T (NYSE:T - news) spokesman Mark Siegel said it was necessary to activate the iPhone on AT&T's network to ensure optimum performance. Using the phone without AT&T's two-year service contract was unauthorized under the phone carrier's exclusive network service contract with Apple, Siegel added.

    "Any other use of the device is not authorized and we can't guarantee the device will perform as intended to. We'll monitor situations like this and if necessary we will take appropriate action," he said. "Our terms and conditions are very clear."

    He did not elaborate on potential action AT&T might take.

    Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris declined to comment on Johansen's claims.

    Apple has yet to reveal network operator deals in markets outside the United States. But the iPhone is a quad-band GSM phone and will work in many parts of Europe and Asia with international roaming deals arranged by AT&T, Kerris said.

    Neither Apple nor AT&T have disclosed sales figures since the iPhone went on sale in the United States on June 29, but some analysts have estimated sales of up to 700,000 units for the costly coveted phone's first weekend on the market.

    Johansen became known as "DVD Jon" earlier this decade for helping to reverse engineer the code used to protect DVD movies against piracy, saying he did so in order to play them on his Linux computer.

    The computer activist has engaged in a cat-and-mouse game with Apple to bypass copyright controls on various Apple products, including QuickTime, iTunes and Apple TV.

    (Additional reporting by Sinead Carew in New York)
    7595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 600556)
    Posted 9 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks to A/C for his posts. Keep them coming. Beets, I'm glad you find some of these worth discussion.
    7596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with RUSH --- CLOSED! (Message 600379)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't it funny how one person can create a "Rushmas" thread, but this thread was seen as an attack on Rush? Ha! As if!!! Videos by the band Rush hardly constitutes an attack. Making the thread title (formerly "Fun with RUSH") sound like the title of Rush's "Fun with Global Warming" hardly constitutes an attack. The worst thing possible in here was the comment "Don't forget to link these ..." and that was pretty tame. ;) That said ...

    THIS THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY CLOSED!
    7597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : My 3000th Post! (Message 600244)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In honor of my 3,000th post
    I dedicate My post to the
    Dumb Redneck Jerk from Vermont
    who stole the head to make a Bong!


    BTW: Not all of us Vermonters are that stupid!









    Congrats on your 3000th post, CA!
    7598) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Locations of moved threads (Message 600243)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The first point (automatically include the new thread details in the notification email) is a good one.

    The second (email all contributors to a moved thread) is (a) not really necessary as users can find the new thread from their post history and (b) not really practicable as it would mean scanning the thread for unique posters and (c) would generate extra emails which could easily annoy more people than they help.


    I've got some good ideas, eh?
    They don't all have to be. But, I promise, 99.44% of my ideas will be good. ;)
    7599) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Locations of moved threads (Message 600173)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It might be a good idea for all users that posted in the thread before it being moved to know where the thread has been moved.

    This could alleviate a lot of misunderstandings/complaints.
    7600) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Deleting PMs (Message 600172)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We should have the option of a delete box so that we never have to read a PM if it comes from a user we do not want a PM from or someone we are unfamiliar with.
    7601) Questions and Answers : Windows : What happened to 5.10.7 (Message 600168)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's exactly what was happening to me.

    That has not happened to me, so far as I know.
    Must we go to the other version?
    7602) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Locations of moved threads (Message 600162)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The mods should have a drop-down box so they can check off which forum a moved thread has been moved to, so the user can continue to read and post in it.
    7603) Questions and Answers : Wish list : PMs during banning (Message 600148)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The PM system, surprisingly, has proven to be effective in sorting out differences between users. A user should not be prohibited from trying to continue to sort out differences just because they've been banned.
    7604) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 600147)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Set preferences with the manager, not on the websites.
    2) Be able to select more than one WU at a time you wish to suspend work on or resume work on.

    I'm sure I'll have more ideas.
    Anybody else have ideas?
    Or contrary thoughts to the two I have already listed?

    If we get a good list, how should we bring it to the attention of those who could create/distribute an update?

    isn't that what the wish list is for? I doubt they would really listen to us...

    Wish list


    It seems possible that the first was listened to. In any case, we've got it now.
    So, developers, how about the second?
    In fact, in v.5.10.7, why can we not scroll through the projects on the main tab or through the WUs under the task tab?
    7605) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 600143)
    Posted 8 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There seem to be no problems with spontaneous shut downs for me today.
    Just keeping some of you posted.
    7606) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 600021)
    Posted 7 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ThreadMaster actually limits the CPU usage of the program rather than cycle the program, but BOINC's method is the only one found so far that works on other operating systems besides Windows.

    Also I haven't seen any numbers about whether BOINC's method is as effective as using a continuous limit on CPU usage. I'd figure it wouldn't be quite as good since the CPU chip never really gets a chance to 'cool down' to a stable level, nevertheless it is lower overall with the CPU throttle feature turned on. I did notice the fans on a laptop constantly cut on and off due to the fluctuating temps caused by BOINC starting/stopping the program.


    I don't have any hard numbers myself, but I can tell you from experience that on hot days, when I switch my computers down to 75%, 50%, 33% or even 25% (all depends on how hot it is outside), I can noticeably feel a difference in the room due to less heat output.

    Speaking of which, I think that would be a great addition to BOINC. The ability to set different "CPU limits" based on time of day. For instance, I would like to be able to limit my CPUs to, say, 50% or 33% during the day when it is hotter, then when it cools at night to around 60F, I could have it run back at 100%.


    Well, Ozz, as a mod it might be a bit easier for you to make the necessary contact with those in software development. I say go for it and let us know what you hear! :)
    7607) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599787)
    Posted 7 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alpha versions can be downloaded here. Be careful before using them, alpha versions can be unstable.

    What happens with the unstable veriosns?
    Shutdowns?
    Many WUs aborted?
    Etc. ... ?
    7608) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599776)
    Posted 7 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Running 5.10.13 on all machines now and having no Explorer difficulties at all...so far

    Thought you were on vacation, Blurf?
    And where'd you get 5.10.13, when the main page says the recommended version is below 5.10.7?
    7609) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599766)
    Posted 7 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.almico.com/speedfan432.exe is a link to the "download page", then under the first catagory, click on the link for speedfan432.

    yes, the harder the cpu works the hotter it gets.

    msattler, of the 1/2 a dozen laptops I've owned (hp, toshiba, compaq, gateway) NONE have come with monitoring software.


    OK, no problems have occurred today and I have lowered the CPU settings on BOINC. Let me see what happens as it crunches SETI WUs over the next day or so. I've bookmarked the speedfan web site, so it'll be easy for me to go look it up if I keep running into further problems. Thanks!
    7610) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599728)
    Posted 7 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I think we've all tried to address why it shuts down. We're assuming you mean that you walk in and see it sitting at a "windows login screen", or new desktop (like it just restarted), if so, see my posts and the posts of others. HEAT is the LIKELY cause. If you have a temperature monitor program, use it to find out the temps. If not, there's a "generic" program called speedfan which might recognize your equipment and give general temp readings. NOTE: I wouldn't leave speedfan running (controlling the fans) as I don't trust it for that function.

    OK, I'm back.
    I am inclined to believe that, yes, heat is an issue.
    I do not think it has to do with recent weather in my area. This has happened in the winter, too.
    So, a question.
    Wouldn't the higher percentage of CPU use generate the heat?
    Earlier I was multi-tasking, so when I looked at the speedfan website, I could not spot the link for downloading it. Now, I am tired and still can't spot it. What am I missing?!?
    7611) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599619)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guys, thanks. I will try to get back to you in 6-12 hours.
    Working on the dissertation right now.
    Thanks again.
    7612) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599611)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uh....
    I don't wanna be an idiot and ask if you're both barking up the wrong tree........
    BUT...

    I cruised through the preceding posts and didn't see any mention if Sarge posted what temps his laptop is running at. Excuse me if I missed it.

    AND...
    If this is the computer that is running 5.10.7 Boinc, wasn't that withdrawn to Beta status exactly because of a random Windoze shutdown bug?? Excuse me if that is not the computer in question.


    No, I haven't posted the temps.

    No one had addressed the question in this thread about Windows shutting down.

    But, this has happened since I reinstalled BOINC on the laptop back in April.

    It has happened any time since I have run BOINC on this laptop.
    7613) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599602)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can start at 80% and see what happens. Again it's a matter of what else the computer is doing. Different projects and for that matter different WU within a project may require more or less of specific function in doing its calculation. Some functions may generate more heat than others. Also turning off the screensaver and going to blank screen is sure to reduce the overall heat of the system.

    OK, thanks.
    I've just made that change. We'll see what happens.
    I can tell you that sometimes the spontaneous shutdown occurs overnight while I am asleep, so the only other things running are usually a couple of instant messenger programs that will tell me if I have e-mail to check when I get up in the morning. Sometimes I leave Firefox open, as well.
    Here's another thing: right now, I have WUs from 4 projects. Rosetta, Rectilinear, Spinhenge and SETI. I have the preferences under the advanced tab set to switch between applications every 60 minutes. I assume that means switch between projects? Why doesn't it switch to SETI, then? I see it switch to other projects, or not switch at all, so sometimes I suspend work on one or more projects so it will finish up on SETI WUs.
    7614) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599597)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no one setting. It's all a matter of the quality of the brand and the individual unit itself and what else it is used for. Is it dust free? All you can do is try a setting to see if it's stable and adjust it up/down accordingly.

    Crap.
    Well, it's an HP zv5434rs. So, anyone else with this one or something very similar, what have you found?
    It was dust free. It probably needs cleaning again.
    How about this? Is there a setting on the CPU percentage you suggest I start with? If things run fine, I can slowly try to push it back up, little by little.
    Also, why would it only be SETI@Home WUs, maybe ones from 1-2 other projects, but not a problem when crunching WUs from 7-8 other projects?
    7615) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599593)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I've seen the spontaneous shutdown on 2 laptops. Each time it's been due to heat build up. You could try checking the temp, and maybe using threadmaster to lower the cpu useage. (not good news I know)

    The threadmaster is under the performance tab of the Task Manager, correct?

    BOINC has the option in Advanced Prefs, Processor Usage to limit CPU usage, use at most n% of CPU time.

    Yes, I'm aware of that. What I am really looking for is what percentage should I set it to, to avoid the problem? It'd be nice if someone with the same HP laptop or something reasonably similar could make suggestions, rather than me having to engage in trial and error.
    Frankly, I noticed the problem when I first got the laptop, since I installed BOINC on it almost immediately. I wound up running it on the desktop only for nearly a year, but two months ago I put BOINC back on the laptop. Only SETI and maybe 1-2 other projects cause this.
    When I first raised the issue, 1.5-2 years ago, I believe the basic response was "You're dreaming" or "Quit complaining about BOINC, it's great!" Neither of these was the case. I am not dreaming nor was I, or am I, complaining.
    7616) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599586)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, I've seen the spontaneous shutdown on 2 laptops. Each time it's been due to heat build up. You could try checking the temp, and maybe using threadmaster to lower the cpu useage. (not good news I know)

    The threadmaster is under the performance tab of the Task Manager, correct?
    7617) Message boards : SETI@home Science : ‘Scary storm’ could kill Mars rovers (Message 599516)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    These rovers sure have been running a long time, haven't they?
    7618) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599507)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's the snooze feature?


    I think it does the same thing as 'suspend' under the activity tab in the Boinc manager. Hit the snooze and then open the Boinc manager and see what it says on the tasks page.


    It suspends BOINC, but AFAIK only for an hour. Like the snooze button on your alarm clock will tell it to go off again in a short while (usually 5 - 15 min.).


    OzzFan!!!
    Hey, I sent you about 3 PMs, after you PMd me, but you never responded?!?
    Wassup with that?

    Anywho ...

    I would like to again raise the issue that when BOINC crunches SETI WUs for me on my laptop, the laptop will eventually spontaneously shut itself down. I have no such difficulties on my desktop, nor difficulties with other projects I have running except possibly 1 or 2.

    Jason Safoutin (sp?) mentioned something about how his fan sounds like a jet taking off. I used to have the same issue, until I stopped using the screensaver. (Yes, I had already cleaned out the fan.)

    I think he and I have similar laptops, as I seem to recall he also has an HP.

    Please, folks, let me know what info from my preferences page you need me to cut and paste and what specs about my laptop you need to know, so that you can help me sort through this problem.

    Thanks ever so much! :)
    7619) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 599505)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any reason it's not recommended version anymore???

    The recommended version has gone back to 5.8.16


    I was about to ask the same thing.
    7620) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mass-extinction events/Supernovae. (Message 599503)
    Posted 6 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am rereading a book by Stephen Webb published in 2002 discussing some solutions to the Fermi Paradox. Webb mentions that a supernova exploding within 30 light years from Earth could destroy most surface life on our planet. Since all stars are moving through space, over the course of aeons, random stellar motions will bring our Sun close to a supernova. How often? A supernova could occur within 30 light years of Earth about every 50 million years or so.
    Have we been extremely lucky? Our Earth, since life emerged on land, has been spared the destruction of a nearby supernova. Maybe other earth like planets harboring ETCs in the universe have not been so lucky.
    Instead of billions of other ETCs, there could be only a precious few.

    I find it hard to believe that every planet in the universe has be wiped lifeless by a super nova.
    There is evidence that super novas happened near us in the past and here we are talking about it.
    Things like that seem like an attempt at making us look special and that there is no one out there. I just don`t believe that.
    I find all these rare earth reasons for us being here dubious. Something is just not right.

    Whoa.
    Wait a minute.
    The idea is not about rarity, is it? It's about not surviving long, on a cosmic scale.
    Furthermore, just because WE are here able to talk about it, that does NOT address all the others that COULD HAVE been here (on Earth or elsewhere) to talk about it as well (assuming those species would have ever been able to evolve capacity for such communication).
    7621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599426)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now, for another (extended) commercial break.
    Enjoy the science; enjoy the silence.
    7622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Breakfast in America (Message 599407)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been to America.
    I've had breakfast there.

    ANd how was it?!?

    It's varied, since all meals have been in the USA. Unless I had a couple in Canada that I cannot remember.
    Even the ones in Hawai'i were still in the USA.
    7623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599404)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder if John is awake?
    7624) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599401)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not own a cell phone.
    I do have a color TV, 13", purchased around Christmas 1997.
    Shall I go on?

    Since you seemed to have missed the point entirely, that's up to you.

    Oh, and if I could not get bread or something similar, would I be posting right now?

    Maybe try substitution here. Maybe your computer would work in place of mobile phone in the example? Maybe the leisure time you have to post here would work as well, given that you don't have to spend every waking moment scraping to buy some (really really really cheap) bread?


    Humor can illustrate so well...

    Too bad there wasn't any in your post.


    Not gonna argue with you, Rush.
    Bigger fish to fry and MUCH MORE important tasks to attend to off-line.
    Believe it or not, you have my respect.
    If time allows and I feel like it, I may PM you some additional explanation.
    In either case, TTYL.
    7625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599382)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Best Males Have Less Successful Daughters

    Science Daily — The strongest and fittest of a species might be expected to produce the best offspring, but this is not always the case, researchers at the University have found.


    [Caption: Red deer stag. (Credit: iStockphoto/Roger Whiteway)]

    Studies of red deer published recently in Nature suggest that the most successful males are more likely to produce less fertile daughters.

    Male and female deer need different attributes to succeed. Genes which prove to be an advantage in fathers don't necessarily prove beneficial in daughters.

    Males who win fights for females go on to produce daughters who have fewer offspring, whereas the daughters of less successful males demonstrate higher fertility.

    The research helps explain why, despite natural selection, there can still be broad biological diversity between individuals in a population.

    Dr Loeske Kruuk and Dr Kathi Foerster, of the School of Biological Sciences, and their colleagues conducted a long-term study of a wild population of red deer on Rum, in the Inner Hebrides.

    Dr Kruuk says:

    “Natural selection means that the most successful individuals pass on their genes more frequently than the losers, so in the next generation more individuals should be carrying those good genes. As time goes on we should expect the low quality genes to be lost, causing less variation between individuals.

    “But we still see huge differences between individuals in a population. This effect of the best males not producing the best daughters is possibly an important reason why such differences remain. Maybe the idea that some genes are better than others is just too simplistic: it depends on the sex of the individual animal.”

    The research was partly funded by the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC).

    Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University Of Edinburgh.
    7626) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599268)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not own a cell phone.
    I do have a color TV, 13", purchased around Christmas 1997.
    Shall I go on?

    Since you seemed to have missed the point entirely, that's up to you.

    Oh, and if I could not get bread or something similar, would I be posting right now?

    Maybe try substitution here. Maybe your computer would work in place of mobile phone in the example? Maybe the leisure time you have to post here would work as well, given that you don't have to spend every waking moment scraping to buy some (really really really cheap) bread?


    Humor can illustrate so well...
    7627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599241)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Viking voyage: The crew's diary

    A replica Viking ship has set sail for Dublin from the Danish port of Roskilde, in an attempt to recreate the voyages undertaken by early Norsemen.

    The volunteer crew on the 30m-long (100ft) Sea Stallion from Glendalough are recording their experiences on the journey.

    Three days into the voyage, bad weather is already proving a major challenge. Like the vikings the crew have no shelter from the weather, no cleaning facilities and no lavatories.

    TUESDAY 3 JULY: TOUGH REALITY

    Susanne Malmstrom, ship's nurse

    Launch day (Sunday, 1 July) was great; there were a lot of people in the harbour. All the family and friends came to say goodbye and to have a good trip. They brought small presents; and some of the patients where I work - they came with flags. It was fantastic.


    [Caption: The crew is learning fast]

    When we left Roskilde, I have to say I cried a little bit when I said goodbye to my kids and to my husband. In the inlet, it was very beautiful with all the boats that followed the ship out to sea.

    Then, the first night came and I have to tell you so much happened. The weather changed; it began to rain. It was very wet and cold. People were seasick, of course. You can always see a person who is about to be sick. They go and sit by themselves and look out over the ocean. And I had the same feeling.

    We were getting more and more cold; not because of the wind but because of the rain. And there were a few people whose equipment was not good enough and they found out too late because by then, they couldn't just go out and buy new socks.


    [Caption: A large crowd had gathered to send off the Sea Stallion]

    Return of the Viking warship

    In the early stages of the voyage, some of the young women especially were getting very cold. They said, "I'm OK, I'm fine; I can handle it", but you could see in their faces something was wrong.

    We put more clothes on them; and I could see one girl was really not good. So we decided to move her to our "safe" place and to work on her to keep her warm. The signs of developing hypothermia were quite different to what I expected.

    One girl didn't answer me correctly when I asked her to do something, so we decided she had to leave to the safety of the support ship. We took four across in all. The waves were big at the time and it was quite difficult to get across but they did it. They're now back with us and doing fine.

    On reflection what has happened was probably the best way to start because we are now better prepared for what is ahead. Yes, everything is wet - our underwear is wet - but as I speak, the weather is perfect.

    The Sea Stallion hopes to reach Dublin on 14 August.

    The ship's crew will be writing a weekly diary for the BBC News website. More regular updates and a satellite map of the ship's latest position can be found at BBC History's
    Viking Voyage website.

    The ship's voyage is also being filmed for a BBC Two Timewatch programme in the autumn.
    7628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599233)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Of that I have no doubt.
    7629) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599229)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not own a cell phone.
    I do have a color TV, 13", purchased around Christmas 1997.
    Shall I go on?
    Oh, and if I could not get bread or something similar, would I be posting right now?
    7630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599226)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Color me as Winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You enjoy that win. :P
    7631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599222)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This post is meant to amaze and confuse you.

    Color me confused! :)
    7632) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Bird Flu (H5N1) (Message 599220)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bird flu found near France-Germany border

    PARIS, July 5 (UPI) -- Tests have confirmed that three swans found dead in France near the German border died of the H5N1 bird flu virus, which is dangerous to humans.

    The tests, which revealed the second outbreak of H5N1 in France, led officials to raise the country's bird flu threat from moderate to high, the BBC reported Thursday. The elevated threat level causes domestic birds around the country to be kept from contact with wild birds.

    The discovery follows a week of tests on wild birds in several locations in the eastern part of the country, the BBC said. The infected swans were discovered near Assenoncourt.

    In 2006, H5N1 killed 62 wild birds in France.

    The virus was found in June on two Czech Republic poultry farms. Outbreaks were reported in 2006 in 13 European Union countries, but none led to human deaths.

    Worldwide, nearly 200 people died from the disease in 2006.

    Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
    7633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : you are all Good people here at the Café you are all winners in my books! (Message 599215)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bah! I'm as jealous as The Wicked Queen in "Snow White"!!!


    lol NOW NOW! Put those claws away.


    But... I'm just GREEN with envy! LOL


    About his trip or the love .... or both?
    EDIT Byron don't take any apples from Beethoven!


    Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?



    We await your return, Byron, and promise not to let anyone hijack your thread during your absence.
    7634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599184)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scientists find clues to ice cap longevity: study

    By Michael Kahn 49 minutes ago


    [Caption: Millions of microscopic plants called phytoplankton colour the waters of the North Atlantic in this image captured on June 23, 2007 by the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer. The upper left edge of the image is bounded by Greenland while Iceland is in the upper right. (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center image courtesy Norman Kuring/Handout/Reuters)]

    LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists using DNA extracted from ice buried deep below the surface have found evidence that a lush forest once existed in southern Greenland, a finding that sheds light on how climate change affects Earth's frozen areas.

    The researchers analyzed ice cores 2-3 km below the surface from several locations in southern Greenland and discovered what they believe to be the oldest authenticated DNA ever recorded.

    Eske Willerslev, a biologist at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, said scientists know very little about fossils hidden below ice and glaciers -- which cover about 10 percent of the earth's surface -- because usable DNA samples tend to be buried so deep and are difficult to get.

    "We have shown a principle and now you can move around to other ice cores and try to do the same thing," he said in a telephone interview. "We have limited knowledge about the Antarctic ice sheet and the biology there."

    Willerslev said drilling techniques developed over the past few years allowed him and his colleagues to search far below the surface to discover evidence of an ancient forest.

    Writing in the journal Science on Thursday, they said their research showed it was possible to explore and understand Earth's vast frozen areas by sampling basal ice that sits far below the surface.

    Basal ice is soil trapped at the bottom of ice and, because the dirt holds on to biological material, offers a richer source of DNA to study past life and climate change than clean ice near the top.

    In southern Greenland they found a wide range of plant and insect life, including pine, spruce and alder tries along with beetles, flies, spiders, butterflies and moths, from 450,000 to 800,000 years ago.

    Scientists had thought the area was last ice-free about 120,000 years ago during the last interglacial but the study showed southern Greenland was still covered in ice at that time.

    This suggests the southern Greenland ice sheet is more stable than thought and might not be as big a contributor to sea level rises caused by rising temperatures, Willerslev said.

    This does not change the view that climate change is problematic but could force scientists to rethink their models looking at the impact of warming temperatures, he said.

    "If we have found evidence that the ice didn't melt away then people have to take that into account when modeling how ice caps might react in the future to climate change," he said.
    7635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599182)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which is the chatty sex? Turns out both are

    By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor 41 minutes ago


    [Caption: A man talks on the phone in a file photo. Men talk every bit as much as women do, U.S. researchers said after painstakingly counting every word that 400 volunteers spoke. (Catherine Benson/Reuters)]

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Men talk every bit as much as women do, U.S. researchers said after painstakingly counting every word that 400 volunteers spoke.

    Their study, published on Thursday in the journal Science, challenges the common wisdom that women are somehow biologically programmed to talk more -- but the researchers said people do often fulfill gender roles when it comes to subject matter.

    "Women and men both use on average about 16,000 words per day, with very large individual differences around this mean," the researchers, led by psychologist Matthias Mehl of the University of Arizona, wrote.

    Mehl and colleagues had been struck by widespread assertions that women talk more each day than men, and have a bigger vocabulary. "The 20,000-versus-7,000 word estimates appear to have achieved the status of a cultural myth," they wrote.

    "So we generalize and say that women just talk all the time," Mehl added in a telephone interview.

    Mehl's team tested this belief by recruiting 396 U.S. and Mexican college students who wore a personal digital assistant with a recorder for anywhere between two and 10 days.

    The devices recorded for 30-second periods every 12 or so minutes, giving representative samples of how much each person talked.

    OVERWHELMING VERBIAGE

    Teams of transcribers took down every word and then extrapolated each person's daily verbiage.

    "The data suggest that women spoke on average 16,215 words and men 15,669 words over an assumed period of, on average, 17 waking hours," the researchers wrote.

    The variation among the different men in the sample and among the women was far greater than the differences between the sexes as a group, Mehl said.

    "Just to illustrate the magnitude of difference, among the three most talkative males in the study, one used 47,000 words. The least talkative male spoke just a little more than 500," he said.

    Mehl noted that because all the volunteers were college students, there could be social or cultural factors at work. But the study suggests that there is no underlying biological difference that accounts for talkativeness.

    "I think the next step is to look into older community samples, maybe older adults in different parts of the world and see whether different cultural norms play a role," Mehl said.

    There were stereotypical difference in subject matter.

    "Men talk more about technology, work, money. They also use more numbers," he said.

    "Women talk more about fashion and about relationships."

    But again, Mehl said, the differences between two men or between two women were far greater than overall sex differences.

    And both sexes can babble on senselessly. "Sometimes you find a stream of words but people don't say very much," he said. "You just talk and talk and talk."
    7636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599181)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gadget boom to drive up energy demand: report

    By Peter Griffiths Wed Jul 4, 6:14 AM ET


    [Caption: A LG Electronics television with a LG.Philips LCD is displayed at a store in Seoul April 11, 2005. Flat-screen televisions, computers and other hi-tech gadgets will use nearly half of a typical British household's total electricity by 2020, an energy conservation body said in a report on Wednesday. (You Sung-Ho/Reuters)]

    LONDON (Reuters) - Flat-screen televisions, computers and other hi-tech gadgets will use nearly half of a typical British household's total electricity by 2020, an energy conservation body said in a report on Wednesday.

    Britain's Energy Saving Trust (EST) said consumer electronics will overtake kitchen appliances and lighting as the biggest single drain on domestic power.

    Its report, "The Ampere Strikes Back," said new devices are often more power-hungry than earlier models and many are left on standby rather than being switched off. Some don't even have an "off" button.

    "Not only are there many more devices in the typical home, but many of them are in a permanent state of readiness to swing into action," the report says.

    In 1982, only three percent of homes had a personal computer compared to 60 percent today. Similarly, printer ownership has shot up to 58 percent from 0.7 percent.

    Houses often have more than one TV and people are buying more large screen sets that use more energy, the report says.

    By 2020, televisions on standby will consume 1.4 percent of all domestic electricity, the report predicts.

    Despite attempts by some manufacturers to make more energy-efficient products, some digital radios still use four times as much power as analogue sets, the report says.

    The growth of single person households -- many with big TVs, set-top boxes, computers, games consoles, TV and music recorders and digital radios -- will add to the higher energy consumption.

    The trust said households could save 37 pounds a year on their energy bill by switching devices off at the wall.

    "Think about how you are using appliances and turn equipment off when not needed as well as rein in the impulse to hoard equipment that has already been replaced," said EST Chief Executive Philip Sellwood.

    The EST was set up by the government in 1993 to promote energy conservation to help cut greenhouse gas emissions and tackle climate change.
    7637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Breakfast in America (Message 599153)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been to America.
    I've had breakfast there.
    7638) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599141)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scala choir performing "Enjoy The Silence"
    7639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599138)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kim Wilde live in Amsterdam - Enjoy the silence
    7640) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599135)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another cover, by Failure.
    7641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599134)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cover of same by Lacuna Coil.
    7642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599133)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence.
    7643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599130)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    To much podium time. It's my turn to win!!!!!!!!!!!




    freewilly
    7644) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Altruism in Other Species (Message 599121)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Altruistic Rats: First Evidence For Generalized Reciprocal Cooperation In Non-humans

    Science Daily — Cooperation in animals has long been a major focus in evolutionary biology. In particular, reciprocal altruism, where helpful acts are contingent upon the likelihood of getting help in return, is especially intriguing because it is open to cheaters. In a new study published this week in the open-access journal PLoS Biology, Claudia Rutte and Michael Taborsky demonstrate the first evidence for generalized reciprocal cooperation in non-humans. The authors show that rats who received help in the past were more likely to help another unknown partner.


    [Caption: In this study, rats received help gaining food from a partner who pulled a stick to produce the food. Rats could therefore be grouped into two classes: those that had previously received help and those that had not. The rats who had previously been helped were then more likely to help another unknown partner receive food. (Credit: iStockphoto/Leroy Dickson)] And I keep on winning! :P

    Although many models have predicted reciprocal altruism, scientists had found evidence only of direct reciprocity ("if you help me, I'll help you") in non-human animals in previous studies. Direct reciprocity is intuitively appealing, yet requires that animals interact repeatedly with the same individuals and remember past interactions. By comparison, generalized reciprocity makes no such cognitive assumptions. In generalized reciprocity, animals are more likely to help a partner if they have been helped in the past, regardless of the past helper's identity.

    For example, in humans, people who found a coin in the coin return of a telephone were more likely to help a stranger pick up dropped papers than control subjects who had not previously found money. In humans, this can be explained by cultural experience as well as by natural selection. But if similar reactions to anonymous experience can be found in non human animals, an evolutionary explanation would be far more likely.

    In this study, Norway rats received help gaining food from a partner who pulled a stick to produce the food. Rats could therefore be grouped into two classes: those that had previously received help and those that had not. The rats who had previously been helped were then more likely to help another unknown partner receive food. This simple mechanism may promote the evolution of cooperation among unfamiliar non-relatives in many other animals.

    Citation: Rutte C, Taborsky M (2007) Generalized reciprocity in rats. PLoS Biol 5(7): e196. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.0050196.

    Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by Public Library of Science.
    7645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Chirp chirp chirp ... (Message 599116)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... said the little birdy.
    7646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599110)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Free Willy?
    7647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599105)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Study finds uses for jellyfish material

    TOKYO, July 5 (UPI) -- Growing jellyfish population concerns led Japanese scientists to develop a process for extracting a commercially viable material from the marine animals.

    The surge in jellyfish worldwide -- attributed to global warming and artificial reefs built along coastlines -- has created a nuisance by the creatures' clogging water intakes at nuclear and conventional power plants, Science Daily reported.

    In their study, National Institute for Materials Science researchers developed a process for extracting large amounts of a protein substance called mucin that could be used as a the basis for "designer mucins" use for such things as drug delivery, cosmetic products or food additives. Mucins, tiny particles that make up mucus, lubricate body surfaces and sometimes have antibacterial effects.

    Researchers said they found jellyfish mucin is similar to human mucin and could substitute for the biomaterial currently taken from pigs and cows.

    The report will appear in the July 27 issue of American Chemical Society's Journal of Natural Products.

    Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
    7648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599083)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    FREE ERIC!!!

    But I really want to know where Eric is?!?
    How dare they ban an administrator?!?
    They wouldn't have this place to chat if it weren't for him, Matt Lebofsky, Rom Walton, Thierry van Driesche and so on.
    7649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 599073)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    FREE ERIC!!!
    7650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599070)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Liver is awful.
    7651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599069)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cheese makes me vomit.
    7652) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Endangered/Extinct Species (Message 599062)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wolves Of Alaska Became Extinct 12,000 Years Ago, Scientists Report

    Science Daily — The ancient gray wolves of Alaska became extinct some 12,000 years ago, and the wolves in Alaska today are not their descendents but a different subspecies, an international team of scientists reports in the July 3 print edition of the journal Current Biology.


    [Caption: A wolf in Yellowstone. (Credit: Barry O'Neill)]

    The scientists analyzed DNA samples, conducted radio carbon dating and studied the chemical composition of ancient wolves at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History. They then compared the results with modern wolves and found that the two were genetically distinct.

    "The ancient Alaskan gray wolves are all more similar to one another than any of them is to any modern North American or modern Eurasian wolf," said study co-author Blaire Van Valkenburgh, UCLA professor of ecology and evolutionary biology.

    The research was federally funded by the National Science Foundation.

    The ancient gray wolves lived in Alaska continuously from at least 45,000 years ago --probably earlier, but radio carbon dating does not allow for the establishment of an earlier date -- until approximately 12,000 years ago, Van Valkenburgh said.

    The ancient gray wolves were not much different in size from modern Alaskan wolves, although their massive teeth and strong jaw muscles were larger. They were capable of killing large bison, Van Valkenburgh said.

    The ancient wolves suffered many broken teeth and tooth fractures, she said.

    Van Valkenburgh has also studied tooth fractures in ancient animals at Los Angeles' Rancho La Brea Tar Pits and in modern lions, tigers, leopards, puma and wolves. The ancient large mammals broke their teeth frequently when they ate, crunching the bones of their prey much more often than their modern counterparts. Why"

    "Because they were hungry, which may have been because it was difficult to catch and hold onto prey when there was much competition and theft among carnivores, forcing them to eat quickly," said Van Valkenburgh, who won a UCLA distinguished teaching award in June. "They were probably living at such high densities that we have difficulty even imagining, with frequent encounters between carnivores."

    The ancient wolves' competitors for food included lions, saber-toothed cats and enormous short-faced bears, she said.

    The saber-toothed cat and other large mammals became extinct about 10,000 to 11,000 years ago when their prey disappeared due to factors that included human hunting and dramatic global warming at the end of the Pleistocene, Van Valkenburgh said.

    Prior to the new research, it was not known whether today's gray wolves in Alaska and elsewhere descended from ancient gray wolves that roamed those areas in the Pleistocene or whether there was an extinction or near extinction of the gray wolves from northern North America.

    Does the research have implications for global warming today"

    "When environmental change happens very rapidly, animals cannot adapt, especially when the few places for them to move as habitats shrink; they are more likely to go extinct," Van Valkenburgh said. "It was a rapid climate change in the late Pleistocene."

    The lead author on the research, Jennifer Leonard, earned her doctorate from UCLA and is now on the faculty of Sweden's Uppsala University. She studied the DNA of more than a dozen wolves that lived 12,000 to 45,000 years ago. Other co-authors are Carles Vilà, a faculty member at Uppsala University; Kena Fox-Dobbs and Paul Koch from the department of Earth and planetary sciences at the University of California, Santa Cruz; and Robert Wayne, a UCLA professor of ecology and evolutionary biology.

    Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University of California - Los Angeles.
    7653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599061)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Study: Girls skip insulin to lose weight

    LONDON, July 4 (UPI) -- Thousands of diabetic British women and girls may be slacking on insulin injections in an attempt to lose weight, a British charity group reported.

    Diabetes UK said up to one in three female diabetes sufferers under age 30 may be skipping insulin shots for weight related reasons, a practice known as diabulimia, The Daily Mail said Wednesday.

    An estimated 5,000 women -- 3,000 of them teenagers -- take part in the practice.

    Diabulimia can have severe health consequences, including blindness, heart failure, kidney disease and an increased risk of diabetic coma.

    "Diabetes is a chronic condition," said Matt Hunt, science information manager for Diabetes UK. "Teenagers and young adults need appropriate and rapid access to psychological care and support to help them manage their condition effectively.

    "There also needs to be improved transitional care services from children to adult diabetes services which, at present, do not always adequately address young adults needs," he said.

    Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
    7654) Message boards : Politics : Goofy George W. Bush Quotes (Message 599057)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The video or this old thread?
    :P
    :)

    The video. :)
    7655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599053)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It made me pass wynde.
    7656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Most Horrid Thing You Ate? (Message 599052)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mod.
    7657) Message boards : Politics : Goofy George W. Bush Quotes (Message 599049)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way to go! Great find, MrGray! :)
    7658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 599040)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your welcome Sarge. You didn't have to give me credit. You asked me if I knew any good links and I gave you a couple. I want half of whatever it was you won!;)

    Don't be so modest!
    CR, you rock!!!
    Having such a thread.
    7659) Message boards : Politics : Michael Moore's: Sicko (Message 599039)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Part of the problem.

    OMG! That was hilarious!!!
    I'll bet Dune Finkleberry would like that video.
    7660) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Autism (Message 599007)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Boys With Autism, Related Disorders, Have High Levels Of Growth Hormones

    Science Daily — Boys with autism and autism spectrum disorder had higher levels of hormones involved with growth in comparison to boys who do not have autism, reported researchers from the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Cincinnati Children’s Hospital and the University Of Cincinnati College Of Medicine.

    The researchers believe that the higher hormone levels might explain the greater head circumference seen in many children with autism. Earlier studies had reported that many children with autism have very rapid head growth in early life, leading to a proportionately larger head circumference than children who do not have autism.

    The researchers found that, in addition to a larger head circumference, the boys with autism and autism spectrum disorder who took part in the current study were heavier than boys without these conditions.

    “The study authors have uncovered a promising new lead in the quest to understand autism,” said Duane Alexander, M.D., Director of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, the NIH institute that funded the study. “Future research will determine whether the higher hormone levels the researchers observed are related to abnormal head growth as well as to other features of autism.”

    Autism is a complex developmental disorder that includes problems with social interaction and communication. The term autism spectrum disorder (ASD) refers to individuals who have a less severe form of autism.

    The study was published on line in Clinical Endocrinology.

    The researchers compared the height, weight, head circumference and levels of growth-related hormones to growth and maturation in 71 boys with autism and with ASD to a group of 59 boys who did not have these conditions.

    The investigators found that the boys with autism had higher levels of two hormones that directly regulate growth (insulin-like growth factors 1 and 2). These growth-related hormones stimulate cellular growth. The researchers did not measure the boys’ levels of human growth hormone, which for technical reasons is difficult to evaluate.

    The boys with autism also had higher levels of other hormones related to growth, such as insulin-like growth factor binding protein and growth hormone binding protein.

    In addition to greater head circumference, the boys with autism and those with autism spectrum disorders weighed more and had a higher body mass index (BMI). BMI is a ratio of a person’s weight and height. A higher BMI often indicates that a person is overweight or obese. The boys’ higher BMI may be related to their higher hormone levels, said the study’s principal investigator, NICHD’s James L. Mills, M.D., a senior investigator in the Division of Epidemiology, Statistics and Prevention Research’s Epidemiology Branch. Dr. Mills and his coworkers also found that there was no difference in height between the two groups of boys.

    The levels of growth-related hormones were significantly higher in the boys with autism even after the researchers compensated for the fact that higher levels of these hormones would be expected in children with a greater BMI.

    “The higher growth-related hormone levels are not a result of the boys with autism simply being heavier,” said Dr. Mills.

    While it has long been noted that many children with autism have a larger head circumference than other children, few studies have investigated whether these children are also taller and heavier, Dr. Mills added.

    Researchers analyzed medical records and blood samples from 71 boys diagnosed with autism and ASD who were patients at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center from March 2002 to February 2004. The researchers compared the information on the boys with autism and autism spectrum disorders to other boys treated for other conditions at the hospital and who do not have autism. Children with conditions that may have affected their growth — such as being born severely premature, long-term illness, or the genetic condition Fragile X were not included in the study. Girls are much less likely to develop autism than are boys, and the researchers were unable to recruit a sufficient number of girls with autism to participate in the study.

    Dr. Mills explained that the bone age of the boys with autism — the bone development assessed by taking X-rays and comparing the size and shape of the bones to similarly-aged children — were not more advanced in the group of boys with autism. For this reason, Dr. Mills and his coworkers ruled out the possibility that they were merely maturing more rapidly than were the other boys.

    Dr. Mills said that future studies could investigate whether the higher levels of growth hormones seen in children with autism could be directly related to the development of the condition itself.

    Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by NIH/National Institute of Child Health and Human Development.
    7661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598934)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, and there's my one thumb, where I took stitches out myself, lol!
    7662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598932)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ya,

    I added the word, "Video" to the end of the link just now.

    Thank you, Sarge.


    Great stuff, MrGray! Keep it coming! :)
    7663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598927)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The link at the top is a vid link, correct?
    7664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598924)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fppmffppppppmffpppmfm fppmfffmpmfp Pmpmppppppppffm.

    Fmm**fmp, mpfppfmffpmfmppmpm mmmmfmmmmmffppp!

    Fmpmfpmmmfmp mfffmm ppfpmpmmmffm. Ppmffm Pfmmmmfpmpmfppffpmmffmmmppp mpmppfmfm mpmppfmppfmm pppppffmp mfpmmmfpmmpp fmpmfpmpp mmfppfpffpffmppmmffmp fmppffmmmpppfmmpmfmmmfmpppfpff. Mfpmpp mfffmm mfpmmmfpmmffpppmfm mpmmffmpfmpfmffmmffmfpmffmpffm. Mff fppmffppp.

    Kenny, shut up.
    7665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598919)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fppmffppppppmffpppmfm fppmfffmpmfp Pmpmppppppppffm.

    Ummm, shut up.
    7666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598915)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    7667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598914)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'Fmpfppmmmfmm mmppffmffpmfpmfmffmfm, mmmpppmpm fmpmfpmpp fmmpmfmfffmpmfpffm fmpppffpmmppfmm
    Mpmmffmpm mfmffmpffmpp mmmpppmpm mfmmffppmmmppmfmpp mffppp fmpmfpmpp fppmmmmmpmpp:
    Mmmpmfpmf ppmmffppmfmmffm fppmpppffmpp fmpmfpmpp mmpppfpffppfmfmppffpmmppfmm,
    Mmmpppmpm fmpmfpmpp ppmppfppmmpp pffmmmfmpmfpfmm ppffmffmpmfmpffmmmmmpmpp.

    mmmmfffppp mmfmfmfmfmffmfpppp mfmffmpfmpmfmfmfpmpmpm fmfmfmfmfpmfpfmfpmpmpfmfpmfpmfpm fmfpmfpfmpfmf pfmfmpf fmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmpmpmfpmfpmfpf mpfmpfm fpmpfmf mf fmpfmfpmfmmfpm m fmpfmpfmfpm fpmffp fpfm fpmffmpf mfpmpm mf fmfpfmpfmfpmfp f fmpfm pmfpmf pmf mpfmf mfpm fpmfpmfmpfm mpfmfpmfpfm m fpm fpmf pm fpmfm fpmf pfm f fpmmf pmfpf fpmf!!!

    So take that!
    7668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598909)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is weird.
    Why are your sig thingys showing up in my posts? :(
    Something must be wrong with the forum codes, again. :(
    7669) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598907)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have scars from my Caesarean. ;)

    Heh?

    Just kidding! :)
    7670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598902)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have scars from my Caesarean. ;)
    7671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598901)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then there's the time I swam in the college's fountain a week before graduation.
    And, 16 years later, the scar is still there.
    7672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598893)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess it is time to make a
    .
    again. eh? :)
    7673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598891)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Based on the number of posts and ratio of views in the number of days it was open, my freedom day for all Earthicans thread has WON!!! :P
    400th view!!!
    7674) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598882)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, I meant to credit CR with the suggestion to visit http://www.sciencedaily.com. This is where the previous article was found. But, I forgot to do so earlier. Thanks, CR!
    Once again, you know who, I win. :P
    7675) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 598876)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump! :)

    Here's a hint about the diagrams:



    and


    7676) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598862)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When a drunk driver hit me, doing 80-100 mph, back in 1994 as I returned from an interview ... I found my only scar was on the back of my right hand. Soon, it took the shape of a heart. It lasted for much of the following year. I have not been able to see it since.


    It would be cool to have a heart shaped scar.

    How do you know the driver was drunk?

    Did the driver just hit your hand?


    Sorry ;o)~




    His car struck the rental car I was driving.
    He sent me spinning.
    The song I had playing on a cassette did not stop until the car stopped spinning and came to a rest. The song was "Under a Silver Moon" by the band Dream Theater. (And ... there's a picture of a burning heart on the cover of the album.)



    I know he was drunk because he stumbled up to me after both of us got out of our cars and apologized, slurring his words. Plus the police confirmed it upon their arrival.

    His car caught fire many many minutes later. I wonder if it exploded after we were taken away? The fire department had not arrived yet.
    7677) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imperfections & Scars. Do They Tell A Story? (Message 598852)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When a drunk driver hit me, doing 80-100 mph, back in 1994 as I returned from an interview ... I found my only scar was on the back of my right hand. Soon, it took the shape of a heart. It lasted for much of the following year. I have not been able to see it since.
    7678) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598837)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Phew! Thank God!

    God said that you are quite welcome... ;)


    Now I wonder.....if Jesus came back tomorrow....would he admit that he's ben talking to you??? Or would he say to chalk it up to the " little voices "???


    What WOULD Jesus do?
    7679) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598836)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stressed-out African Naked Mole-rats May Provide Clues About Human Infertility

    Science Daily — A tiny, blind, hairless subterranean rodent that lives in social colonies in the harsh, semi-arid conditions of Africa could shed light on stress-related infertility in humans, the 23rd annual meeting of the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology will hear.


    [Caption: A naked mole rat (Heterocephalus glaber). (Credit: Roman Klementschitz, Wien / courtesy of Wikimedia Commons)]

    Dr Chris Faulkes, a senior lecturer at the School of Biological & Chemical Sciences, Queen Mary, University of London, will tell the conference that the African naked mole-rat is at the extreme end of a continuum of socially-induced reproductive suppression among mammals, with other examples including primates such as marmosets and tamarins, mongooses and members of the dog family (such as wolves and jackals).

    The naked mole-rat lives in colonies of between 100-300 animals, but only the "queen" reproduces, suppressing fertility in both the females and the males around her by bullying them.

    Dr Faulkes said: "The queen exerts her dominance over the colony by, literally, pushing the other members of the colony around. She 'shoves' them to show who's boss. We believe that the stress induced in the lower-ranking animals by this behaviour affects their fertility. There appears to be a total block to puberty in almost all the non-breeding mole-rats so that their hormones are kept down and their reproductive tracts are under-developed.

    "Currently, we think that the behavioural interactions between the queen and the non-breeders are translated into the suppression of certain fertility hormones (luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormones). In the non-breeding females this has the effect of suppressing the ovulatory cycle, while in the non-breeding males it causes lower testosterone concentrations, and lower numbers of sperm. In most non-breeding males, sperm that are present are non-motile.

    "The queen also seems to exert control over the breeding males, so that concentrations of their testosterone are suppressed except when she is ready to mate."

    However, this stress-related block to fertility is reversible. When the queen dies, the other non-breeding, highest ranking females battle it out for dominance, with the winner rapidly becoming reproductively active.

    "Studies of dominance within colonies have revealed that breeding animals have the highest social rank. Furthermore, concentrations of urinary testosterone, a hormone associated with aggression, in the queen and non-breeders of both sexes correlated significantly with rank position. In experiments where the queen is removed from her colony, reproductive activation in the female taking over as queen was accompanied by the development and expression of aggressive behaviour in the form of 'shoving'. These succeeding females were also previously high ranking and had relatively high concentrations of urinary testosterone. This supports the hypothesis that the attainment and maintenance of reproductive status in the queen, and control of the social order of the colony, is related to dominance behaviour," said Dr Faulkes.

    Natural cues such as changes in day length and social stress act through areas of the brain that control reproduction and, as it is likely that such neuroendocrine pathways are similar across species, understanding how they work in naked mole-rats could lead to a better understanding of the mechanisms involved in some stress-related infertility in humans. Dr Faulkes said: "Social suppression of reproduction in marmoset monkeys is very similar to that in naked mole-rats, and as these are primates the applications to understanding human stress-related infertility aren't so far fetched.

    "The neurobiological process underlying the way mammals respond to social and environmental cues are still largely unknown," he continued. "In a wider comparative study of African mole-rat species, we are also researching into genes that may give rise to the quite different forms of social bonding and affiliative behaviours observed in mole-rats. Studies on voles by researchers in the US have shown that complex behaviours like monogamy and promiscuity can be influenced by single genes that differ among species in their patterns of expression in the brain.

    "Humans also vary widely in the way in which they form social bonds with their partners, offspring and kin. By making careful comparisons with model species like mole-rats, we may be able to tease apart the relative contribution of genes, environment, up-bringing and culture to complex social behaviour in our own species."

    For the African naked mole-rat, the advantages of their social organisation mean that almost all the members of the colony are co-operating and directing their energies towards foraging for food in order for the whole community to survive, rather than indulging in physically exhausting mating and reproductive behaviour. The "workers" dig a network of tunnels, often several kilometres long, which they use to find their food of roots and tubers, while the "soldiers" defend the colony against foreign mole-rats and predators such as snakes.

    "By living in large social groups with a co-operative non-breeding workforce, naked mole-rats are able to exploit an ecological niche where solitary animals or small groups would be unlikely to survive," said Dr Faulkes.

    Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology.
    7680) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598830)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Dunno, I didn't have my thingy in .....


    So...your ###### was ###...

    TMI...

    ;-)


    Oh, man, that's moderatable. :P
    7681) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598823)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well... To be fair to the mods longshanks, she did get into nasty, open fights with about three of the moderators, and that's clearly against the rules!

    Mod in-fighting?
    Breaking rules?
    Say it is not so!


    Okay...it ain't so! :-P


    Phew! Thank God! :)
    7682) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598821)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm...I wasn't even close to having any volume to speak of at that time. I was being nice because I knew you had been awake for quite some time. :-)

    I think I slept for most of the different legs of the flight. :)
    7683) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598806)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well... To be fair to the mods longshanks, she did get into nasty, open fights with about three of the moderators, and that's clearly against the rules!

    Mod in-fighting?
    Breaking rules?
    Say it is not so!
    7684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598805)
    Posted 5 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've heard of this person to which you refer.


    Like music?

    Go to ....

    Nice bit of piano...


    Playing the blues! :) (Not singing them!)
    7685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598772)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've heard of this person to which you refer.
    7686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598768)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm...I have an exceptionally loud stereo in my car...including 2 12" subwoofers that are rated at 900 watts each.

    However...I don't dress like a " little boy ". Unless of course you feel that jeans and a t shirt are " little boy " clothes. :-)

    By the way....just for the record...I am 37 years old and I still like my music loud.


    You little cruiser you!!!


    I cruised with KM once. It wasn't THAT loud. :)
    Then again, maybe my tolerance level is higher than a fair amount of people's?
    7687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598760)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    fUnnY th1ng i5, n0on3 but R1ch4rD n' I kn0w wh4t h3 r34lly m34n+! :)
    7688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598751)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevada?
    7689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Man acquitted of loud singing in park (Message 598730)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The police officers should have just smiled and passed by..

    Like they do when a car is parked in the lot vibrating the neighborhood with its big sub woofers expressing its 'freedom to annoy'... ;)

    Notice they all dress like they are little boys, That crap bass is making the hearing Aid companies rich and in 20 years they will have a "Boom" in business..
    of course they said that about Rock N Roll... But that Music if you can call it that is way out of control, I'd bet the whales can Hear it...

    I already posted the news about whales and their hearing.
    7690) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeology and Paleontology (Message 598718)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ancient remains found by pupils

    eenagers who joined archaeologists on a dig in an historic village uncovered the 1,000-year-old remains of a woman.

    Pupils from different schools in Cambs and Suffolk were on a higher education course digging near Halesworth when their spades hit a skull.

    Cambridge University archaeologist Carenza Lewis said they do not know all that much about the body they found.

    "We think she may be Anglo Saxon or from before the Norman Conquest. She is ancient, adult and female," she said.

    The dig, in the village of Chediston, was part of a series of higher education field academies run by Access Cambridge Archaeology.

    The body was found outside the confines of an existing churchyard and this is very unusual, the archaeologists believe.

    Ms Lewis said: "She was buried about three feet down and facing east which is evidence of a classic Christian burial.

    "Before the Norman Conquest the churchyard occupied a different area and this may account for her grave."
    7691) Message boards : Cafe SETI : MmfPmfPpfFmmMppMpm! CLOSED! (Message 598715)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Points tricorder at Chris.
    Darn it, the universal translator has failed!
    7692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : MmfPmfPpfFmmMppMpm! CLOSED! (Message 598714)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn it, where's the translator?
    7693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598704)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    (Credits: Beethoven von Ludwig)

    Hey! Where are my credits, Sarge?! LOL

    What? You could not see them?
    7694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598698)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Oh god...

    Did someone change the name of this thread or am I going completely loopy..

    Has Eric Korpela also been banned?

    Is everyone banned...

    Am I here alone..

    cRumbs..


    Don't worry, cRunchy. Bans only last a week or two.
    Now ... where's Waldo?
    7695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : MmfPmfPpfFmmMppMpm! CLOSED! (Message 598677)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fppmfpppf mmmpffmpp fmpmfpmppffm?
    7696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598653)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Free Eric! :)
    7697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598649)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Where's John Clark? (Or is that Clarke?)
    Has he been put under a gag order?
    Free Di Atribe!!!
    7698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : MmfPmfPpfFmmMppMpm! CLOSED! (Message 598636)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets!
    These two are saying nasty things to each other on the phone!
    7699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boogie woogie piano........ (Message 598629)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blues


    Very nice!
    And who is that, may I ask?

    That is Esme'!!! You didn't know?


    I did not know either..

    It breaks my heart to see such talent banned from these forums..

    I guess those of heart have a difficult path to follow.

    I am quite ashamed.



    The baners have no heart.


    If only they'd step away from their computers and play the piano, too! :(

    Don't thinkI'de like controlll freak music.


    Freaking me out

    Nice song .. Dedicated to furry little animals everywhere ..

    It was the first one with the key words I entered that showed up, but I like it. I know I heard it in the last few days.
    7700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : MmfPmfPpfFmmMppMpm! CLOSED! (Message 598625)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fppmfpmmmfmp fppppffmfpmfmpm mmpmpp mmfppfpppfmmmffmpmmpppff fmpppf mmpmpp mmm fmmmmmmpfmpp mmmfpmmmmfmpmmmpff ppfpff fmmmffmfmpppmmmfmpfmfpffmpp fmpppf fmffmmmpp mffppp fmpmfpmpp Mmfmmmmpfmpp?

    Gag order?
    Sounds like a few of my PMs to Beets during my ban.
    He said he recorded them and pretended the sounds came from something else.
    I ran away scared from Beets! :)
    7701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boogie woogie piano........ (Message 598610)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blues


    Very nice!
    And who is that, may I ask?

    That is Esme'!!! You didn't know?


    I did not know either..

    It breaks my heart to see such talent banned from these forums..

    I guess those of heart have a difficult path to follow.

    I am quite ashamed.



    The baners have no heart.


    If only they'd step away from their computers and play the piano, too! :(

    Don't thinkI'de like controlll freak music.


    Freaking me out
    7702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boogie woogie piano........ (Message 598601)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blues


    Very nice!
    And who is that, may I ask?

    That is Esme'!!! You didn't know?


    I did not know either..

    It breaks my heart to see such talent banned from these forums..

    I guess those of heart have a difficult path to follow.

    I am quite ashamed.



    The baners have no heart.


    If only they'd step away from their computers and play the piano, too! :(
    7703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598576)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spain
    Chile
    Argentina
    Brazil

    Come on in! :)
    7704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598574)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's new?
    I win!!!
    7705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598571)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's have a Tea Party...

    No, seriously folks: Happy Birthday, US of A.


    Have any green tea?
    7706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598567)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Canada, England, Pakistan, Mongolia and so on!
    Come on in! :)
    7707) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598565)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All are welcome.
    7708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 598560)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Enjoy the collection. :)
    7709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 598556)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now for this commercial break.I win!!
    7710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598554)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now for this commercial break.
    7711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598545)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eye checks urged for signs of later heart disease

    By Tan Ee Lyn Tue Jul 3, 7:01 AM ET


    [Caption: A woman eats her lunch at an outdoor cafe in Sydney September 6, 2005. A study in Australia has shown that changes occur in blood vessels in the eyes of heavier and obese children from as young as six, warning signs that might be linked to cardiovascular disease in later life. (Will Burgess/Reuters)]
    I win!

    HONG KONG (Reuters) - A study in Australia has shown that changes occur in blood vessels in the eyes of heavier and obese children from as young as six, warning signs that might be linked to cardiovascular disease in later life.

    Previously, these changes -- widening of veins and narrowing of arteries -- were only observed in the retinas of heavy teenagers and adults, and this is the first time that such troubling signs have been seen in children so young.

    Writing in the International Journal of Obesity, the researchers called for extensive monitoring of these subtle blood vessel changes as they can be an early indication of risks such as hypertension and stroke when the children enter adulthood.

    "It was initially thought that the risk profile developed in adolescents and young adults, but (this study) suggests that these changes probably occur even at an early age," Paul Mitchell, a professor at the University of Sydney's Centre for Vision Research, said in a telephone interview.

    "It may be worthwhile examining children or adolescents for subtle retinal vessel size as these could be markers of a person's risks as they get older into adulthood."

    The retina is a thin layer of neural cells that lines the back of the eyeball.

    The study involved 1,740 six-year-olds from 34 schools in Sydney.

    After accounting for differences such as sex, ethnicity, length of the eyeball, birth weight and mean blood pressure, the researchers found unique changes in minute blood vessels in the retinas of children who were over the mean weight.

    The average diameter of their retinal veins was 2.1 microns larger than those of their lighter peers. However, the average diameter of retinal arteries in the heavy children was 2.2 microns narrower than other children.

    Veins carry low-oxygen blood back to the heart, while arteries carry oxygenated blood from the heart.

    "The reason for widening of the veins may simply relate to a larger blood volume associated with a heavier child. It's harder to explain the effects on the retinal (arteries). It could be a reflex response in obese children, but that remains to be seen," Mitchell added.

    It also remained to be seen if the changes to blood vessels were reversible.

    "In adult populations, we haven't (seen) reversibility so often. For the narrowing of arteries associated with elevated blood pressure, even when blood pressure is back to normal, the arteries don't seem to respond, but we don't know about the (retinal blood vessels)," Mitchell said.
    7712) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Transportation and the Environment. (Message 598540)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Green appeal helps UK trains in battle vs. planes

    By Pete Harrison Tue Jul 3, 1:49 PM ET


    [Caption: A rail commuter walks down steps at Waverly train station in Edinburgh, December 27, 2006. The train is catching up with the plane in Britain, with airports reporting fewer domestic travelers and trains becoming ever more full. (David Moir/Reuters)]
    I win.

    LONDON (Reuters) - The train is catching up with the plane in Britain, with airports reporting fewer domestic travelers and trains becoming ever more full.

    Liverpool's John Lennon Airport last week finally fell victim to the rise of rail after years of competition when Belgian airline VLM scrapped its last flights from London, saying it could not make money on them.

    At nearby Manchester Airport, the number of domestic travelers fell by 8.6 percent to 1.33 million in the first five months of this year.

    And while airline executives argue that the weakness is largely due to consumer sentiment, train companies have seen no such evidence.

    Journeys between Manchester and London were up 18.2 percent to around 821,700 in a similar timeframe, says Virgin Rail, a joint venture between Stagecoach and Richard Branson's Virgin Group.

    In recent years, journeys which typically took over four hours by rail - such as London to Edinburgh - were successfully targeted by airlines.

    But the sector's rule of thumb is changing in Britain amid tight airport security which slows boarding and the impact of rising taxes and interest rates.

    And this year, aviation has also started to face a growing challenge from environmentally-conscious travelers concerned at CO2 emissions from planes.

    MODAL SHIFT

    "Environmental issues have had a major impact," said Stagecoach Chief Executive Brian Souter. "We are seeing a modal shift."

    The environmental statistics vary wildly, putting the CO2 impact of aviation anywhere between four and ten times that of rail on domestic-length journeys.

    But airline executives argue money and time are still the biggest factors. "If people do have an environmental conscience, you can buy it for a fiver," said one.

    And European air travel is still expected to double by 2020, says the industry body Airports Council International.

    But UK domestic aviation has been suffering for the last few months as consumers tighten purse strings amid rising interest rates and terrorism fears, highlighted last week when two attackers rammed a burning Jeep into Glasgow airport.

    A failed plot to bomb transatlantic airliners last August had already led to a crackdown at UK airports causing queues and delays and forcing some travelers back on to long-distance trains.

    There they discovered that the slow, overcrowded carriages they remembered had been replaced by slicker, faster trains as years of investment in once-creaking infrastructure starts to make itself felt.

    Many trains have power sockets and WiFi wireless internet to attract business travelers.

    "People are now treating the train as an extension of the office," said a Virgin Rail spokesman. "We hear of lawyers billing for four or five hundred pounds while on the train."

    With rail in the ascendancy and two major franchises up for grabs in coming months -- Cross Country and InterCity East Coast -- competition is heating up between operators such as Stagecoach, National Express, FirstGroup and Arriva.

    THE HEAVIEST BLOW

    The heaviest blow for domestic airlines came when then-Finance Minister Gordon Brown doubled airport tax (APD) from Feb 1 because of environmental concerns, forcing up air fares, said an easyJet spokesman.

    The long-term decline in UK domestic aviation is inevitable, having only been given room to grow due to the lack of investment in high speed railways, says Chris Green, chairman of the Railway Forum.

    "We are out of step with the rest of Europe, but ultimately domestic aviation will decline as high speed lines replace them," he added. "The change has started, which is very exciting."

    Longer term, a new north-south high speed rail link could persuade 90 percent of travelers to switch to the train for journeys from London to Manchester, up from around 55 percent today, says Jim Steer, a former managing director of Britain's Strategic Rail Authority.

    Steer is campaigning, through his group Greengauge21, for that link to be built, which would cut the journey time between London and Manchester from today's 130 minutes to 90 minutes.

    EasyJet Chief Executive Andy Harrison told Reuters in a recent interview he was not overly concerned by increasing competition from trains, but added: "If we ever had a true high speed rail service to Scotland, that would affect the airlines."

    Steer says that with a high speed link to Manchester and further upgrades north of there, the journey time to central Scotland could be cut to 3 hours.

    However Steer says the 11 billion pounds ($22.1 billion) project is still at least 10 years away, even with strong political backing.
    7713) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598539)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Russia gas field noise harms whales, says WWF

    By Ajay Kamalakaran Tue Jul 3, 9:01 AM ET

    SAKHALIN, Russia (Reuters) - Noise from a Russian gas field in the Pacific Ocean is driving the endangered grey whale away from one of its few feeding grounds, says the WWF environmental group.

    The grey whale is one of the largest and oldest mammals on earth -- it can grow larger than a city bus and the species is thought to be 30 million years old.

    But environmentalists say there are only 100 grey whales left off the Asian Pacific coast, with another 300 off the North American coast. Now construction work at a Russian gas project is forcing them away from their natural habitat.

    "I feel that a huge construction bulldozer is working near my tent. I feel the vibration and hear the low, hollow rumble," said Natalia Illarionova, who monitors the whales from a camp on the island of Sakhalin for the WWF.

    She said the whales were disappearing from the area she was monitoring because of the noise, putting more pressure on other feeding grounds.

    Russia has grown rich from soaring energy revenues over the last few years and the $20 billion Sakhalin-2 project, majority owned by Gazprom with Royal Dutch Shell as a minority partner, is central to its plans to sell gas to Asia.

    The Sakhalin Energy project leaders had agreed to recommendations from a whale conservation panel prior to starting the project, and a company spokesman said they had not broken those guidelines.

    "The acoustic monitoring buoys detected no unusual noise and at no time did noise levels at the outer edge of the feeding area exceed the action criteria levels," spokesman Ivan Chernyakhovsky said.

    Sakhalin Energy is ready to share and discuss data with environmentalists, he said.

    The whales eat shrimps and small fish during the summer feeding season to fatten themselves up ahead of their winter migration towards warmer waters.
    7714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598537)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription ( provided by Jeffrey, so if there are any errors ... blame MISFIT! :) )

    In Congress, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighboring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

    The 56 signatures on the Declaration appear in the positions indicated:

    Column 1
    Georgia:
    Button Gwinnett
    Lyman Hall
    George Walton

    Column 2
    North Carolina:
    William Hooper
    Joseph Hewes
    John Penn
    South Carolina:
    Edward Rutledge
    Thomas Heyward, Jr.
    Thomas Lynch, Jr.
    Arthur Middleton

    Column 3
    Massachusetts:
    John Hancock
    Maryland:
    Samuel Chase
    William Paca
    Thomas Stone
    Charles Carroll of Carrollton
    Virginia:
    George Wythe
    Richard Henry Lee
    Thomas Jefferson
    Benjamin Harrison
    Thomas Nelson, Jr.
    Francis Lightfoot Lee
    Carter Braxton

    Column 4
    Pennsylvania:
    Robert Morris
    Benjamin Rush
    Benjamin Franklin
    John Morton
    George Clymer
    James Smith
    George Taylor
    James Wilson
    George Ross
    Delaware:
    Caesar Rodney
    George Read
    Thomas McKean

    Column 5
    New York:
    William Floyd
    Philip Livingston
    Francis Lewis
    Lewis Morris
    New Jersey:
    Richard Stockton
    John Witherspoon
    Francis Hopkinson
    John Hart
    Abraham Clark

    Column 6
    New Hampshire:
    Josiah Bartlett
    William Whipple
    Massachusetts:
    Samuel Adams
    John Adams
    Robert Treat Paine
    Elbridge Gerry
    Rhode Island:
    Stephen Hopkins
    William Ellery
    Connecticut:
    Roger Sherman
    Samuel Huntington
    William Williams
    Oliver Wolcott
    New Hampshire:
    Matthew Thornton
    7715) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Genetics and ailments/diseases (Message 598536)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Genetic change raises risk of childhood asthma: study

    By Michael Kahn 1 hour, 18 minutes ago

    LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists have identified a genetic change that raises a child's risk of developing asthma, a discovery that may lead to better treatments for one of the most common chronic childhood ailments.

    The finding adds to further evidence of the role genetics -- rather than environmental factors such as allergies -- play in how children develop asthma, said William Cookson, a researcher at London's Imperial College's National Heart and Lung Institute, who coordinated the multinational study.

    "We often think about asthma in terms of allergies," Cookson said in a telephone interview. "This gene doesn't affect allergies. It suggests other things besides allergies are driving the disease process."

    Asthma is an inflammatory disease causing wheezing, coughing and labored breathing that can be life threatening. In some countries as many as 30 percent of children develop the condition, according to the World Health Organization.

    Scientists do not exactly know why some children develop asthma, although some believe that allergies can trigger the disease that causes a narrowing of the bronchial tubes.

    Treatments include daily inhaled steroid therapy to keep mild-to-moderate cases at bay but Cookson said his team's research could potentially lead to more targeted drugs.

    Cookson and colleagues from France, Germany, the United States and Austria, used a new technique to identify genes that predispose children to the disease.

    Writing in the journal nature on Wednesday, they said they tested differences in DNA of about 1,000 children with asthma and about 1,200 without and found the big difference between them was on chromosome 17, Cookson said.

    Genetic variations on chromosome 17 increased the expression, or activity, of a gene called ORMDL3 in the blood cells of children with asthma, raising the risk of developing the disease by 60 percent.

    "We were able to look at genome specimen in the blood of some children and we found that the level of a particular gene ORMDL3 was increased in the blood cells of children with asthma," Cookson said.

    "It opens the way for possible new treatments," said Cookson. "The gene could be a target for drugs."

    Cookson noted previous studies have found links between genetics and asthma but said this research provides some of the strongest evidence yet of how genetic factors cause the condition in children.

    "It is a complex picture," he said. "This isn't the whole picture but it is a major step forward."
    7716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598532)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pssst, the party's in this thread. ;)



    Pass the Belvedere, Grey Goose, Bacardi 151, and Romulan Ale circa 2309; keep 'em all coming.



    Rock on, TimeLord! :)



    I forgot; add in the Absolut, too...



    Keep safe! :)
    7717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598529)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pssst, the party's in this thread. ;)



    Pass the Belvedere, Grey Goose, Bacardi 151, and Romulan Ale circa 2309; keep 'em all coming.



    Rock on, TimeLord! :)
    7718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598527)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pssst, the party's in this thread. ;)
    7719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598516)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Us_declaration_independence.jpg
    7720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boogie woogie piano........ (Message 598511)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just don't let her sing to you, lol! ;)
    7721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598365)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598364)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598362)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598360)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The non-discriminatory freedom thread (Message 598357)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let freedom ring! :)
    7726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598345)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy! :)
    7727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 598343)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aces High.
    Great opening speech! :)
    7728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 598249)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think I've answered that. :)
    7729) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeology and Paleontology (Message 598245)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lucy fossil approved for US tour

    By NATASHA T. METZLER, Associated Press Writer Wed Jun 27, 7:09 PM ET

    \\
    (AP Photo/Houston Museum of Natural Science, Dirk Van Tuerenhout, file)

    WASHINGTON - A fossil tour doesn't have to mean an aging rock band's reunion concerts. The State Department gave final approval Wednesday for one of the world's most famous fossils — the 3.2 million-year-old Lucy skeleton unearthed in Ethiopia in 1974 — to tour the U.S. on exhibit for the first time.

    The Smithsonian has objected to the idea, however, because museum experts don't think the fragile remains should travel. So Lucy won't be stopping at the National Museum of Natural History, but in other U.S. museums instead.

    Smithsonian scientists feel that certain artifacts, such as Lucy, are too valuable for the stresses of travel and should remain in their homes, according to National Natural History Museum spokesman Randall Kremer.

    "This is one of the most important specimens relating to human origins in the world," Kremer said Wednesday. "We think it is too much of a risk to have it travel for the purposes of public viewing."

    Even in Ethiopia the public has only seen the real Lucy remains twice. The Lucy exhibition at the Ethiopian Natural History Museum in the nation's capital, Addis Ababa, is a replica and the real remains are usually locked in a vault.

    "We share with them the fact that artifacts like this need to be surrounded with the utmost care, but that should not preclude them from traveling," said Dirk Van Tuerenhout, curator of anthropology at the Houston Museum of Natural Science, which is arranging the tour. He added that representatives from his museum did deem some of the other artifacts offered by the Ethiopian government unable to travel.

    "If you are able to showcase an original fossil, then you have a story, then you have a point of attraction that will bring in the most number of people, and then you can tell them that story," Van Tuerenhout said.

    The State Department approved the exhibit for temporary importation into the U.S., saying that display of Lucy and the other artifacts is in the national interest because of their "cultural significance." The official announcement was published Wednesday in the Federal Register.

    Lucy goes on display at the Houston Museum of Natural Science on Aug. 31, continuing through April 20, 2008. The other tour stops have not been finalized, according to museum spokeswoman Melodie Francis. But in announcing the plans to display the artifact last October, Ethiopian officials listed Washington, New York, Denver and Chicago as tour stops.

    The fossilized remains were discovered in 1974 in the remote, desert-like Afar region in northeastern Ethiopia. Lucy is classified as an Australopithecus afarensis, which lived in Africa between about 4 million and 3 million years ago, and is the earliest known hominid.

    Most scientists believe afarensis stood upright and walked on two feet, but they argue about whether it had ape-like agility in trees. The loss of that ability would suggest crossing a threshold toward a more human existence.
    7730) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 598243)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then that person wandered away from what Thorin intended the thread to be about. :)
    7731) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The Human mind. (Message 598239)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brain Scans Reveal Why Meditation Works

    Melinda Wenner
    Special to LiveScience
    LiveScience.com Sat Jun 30, 1:35 PM ET

    If you name your emotions, you can tame them, according to new research that suggests why meditation works.

    Brain scans show that putting negative emotions into words calms the brain's emotion center. That could explain meditation’s purported emotional benefits, because people who meditate often label their negative emotions in an effort to “let them go.”

    Psychologists have long believed that people who talk about their feelings have more control over them, but they don't know why it works.

    UCLA psychologist Matthew Lieberman and his colleagues hooked 30 people up to functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) machines, which scan the brain to reveal which parts are active and inactive at any given moment.

    They asked the subjects to look at pictures of male or female faces making emotional expressions. Below some of the photos was a choice of words describing the emotion—such as “angry” or “fearful”—or two possible names for the people in the pictures, one male name and one female name.

    When presented with these choices, the subjects were asked to pick the most appropriate emotion or gender-appropriate name to fit the face they saw.

    When the participants chose labels for the negative emotions, activity in the right ventrolateral prefrontal cortex region—an area associated with thinking in words about emotional experiences—became more active, whereas activity in the amygdala, a brain region involved in emotional processing, was calmed.

    By contrast, when the subjects picked appropriate names for the faces, the brain scans revealed none of these changes—indicating that only emotional labeling makes a difference.

    “In the same way you hit the brake when you’re driving when you see a yellow light, when you put feelings into words, you seem to be hitting the brakes on your emotional responses,” Lieberman said of his study, which is detailed in the current issue of Psychological Science.

    In a second experiment, 27 of the same subjects completed questionnaires to determine how “mindful” they are.

    Meditation and other “mindfulness” techniques are designed to help people pay more attention to their present emotions, thoughts and sensations without reacting strongly to them. Meditators often acknowledge and name their negative emotions in order to “let them go.”

    When the team compared brain scans from subjects who had more mindful dispositions to those from subjects who were less mindful, they found a stark difference—the mindful subjects experienced greater activation in the right ventrolateral prefrontral cortex and a greater calming effect in the amygdala after labeling their emotions.

    “These findings may help explain the beneficial health effects of mindfulness meditation, and suggest, for the first time, an underlying reason why mindfulness meditation programs improve mood and health,” said David Creswell, a UCLA psychologist who led the second part of the study, which will be detailed in Psychosomatic Medicine.
    7732) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeology and Paleontology (Message 598238)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chilean teenagers find trove of whale fossils

    By Rodrigo Martinez Fri Jun 29, 11:56 AM ET


    [Caption: A general view of the area where students found fossils in Los Maitenes town, about 160 km (99 miles) northwest of Santiago, June 26, 2007. In the Town of Los Maitenes, in the central coast of Chile, a group of secondary students discovered some fossil remains of what could be a prehistoric whale cemetery during a workshop of paleontology. (Eliseo Fernandez/Reuters)]

    LOS MAITENES, Chile (Reuters) - Chilean teenagers on a field trip have found what experts say could be a treasure trove of fossils from whales which died millions of years ago.

    Teenagers from a school in Concon, a town on the Pacific coast, found the fossils last month in the hills near the village of Los Maitenes, nearly four miles from the sea and 100 miles from the capital Santiago.

    They found fossilized jawbones, backbones and ribs of four whales which scientists say likely died 5 million years ago.

    Geologists expect to find more whale fossils in the area. "What we have to work out is whether we're dealing with a few examples that have washed in on the tide or whether we're talking about a real whale cemetery," said Hernan Vergara, a marine geologist studying the find.

    Vergara, who teaches at the nearby University of Valparaiso, said the gentle hills around Los Maitenes were once part of the sea bed.

    The teenagers found the fossils while on a field trip with their biology teacher Veronica Andrade.

    "We got to the place thinking we might find a bone, something small and some invertebrate fossils," Andrade told Reuters. "But because the kids are restless they fanned out all over the area and they found lots of fragments close to the surface."

    Local authorities are hailing the discovery as one of the most important of its kind in central Chile and say they plan to declare the area a national monument, which would give the area protected status.

    "I don't know of any other find like this," said Valparaiso Gov. Ricardo Bravo, who added the provincial government was considering building a natural history museum on the site.
    7733) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeology and Paleontology (Message 598234)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Million-year-old human tooth found in Spain

    Mon Jul 2, 6:59 AM ET


    [Caption: This picture released by Fundacion Atapeurca shows a human tooth found in the Atapuerca Sierra, near Burgos. Spanish researchers on Friday said they had unearthed a human tooth more than one million years old, which they estimated to be the oldest human fossil remain ever discovered in western Europe.(AFP/FA-HO)]

    MADRID (AFP) - Spanish researchers on Friday said they had unearthed a human tooth more than one million years old, which they estimated to be the oldest human fossil remain ever discovered in western Europe.

    Jose Maria Bermudez de Castro, co-director of research at the Atapuerca site said the molar, discovered on Wednesday in the Atapuerca Sierra in the northern province of Burgos, could be as much as 1.2 million years old.

    "The tooth represents the oldest human fossil remain of western Europe. Now we finally have the anatomical evidence of the hominids that fabricated tools more than one million years ago," the Atapuerca Foundation said in a statement.

    "Since it is an isolated fossil remain, it is not possible at this point to confirm which Homo species this tooth belongs to," the foundation added, but said first analyses "allow us to suppose it is an ancestor of Homo antecessor (pioneer)."

    In 1994 at the nearby Gran Dolina site several Homo antecessor fossils were uncovered, suggesting human occupation of Europe around 800,000 years ago, whereas scientists had previously believed the continent had only been inhabited for around half a million years.

    Subsequent findings in various sites across Spain lent further credence to the earlier date.

    The Sierra Atapuerca contains several caves such as the Gran Dolina site, where fossils and stone tools of Europe's earliest known hominids have been found.

    Researchers found the molar in the Sima del Elefante section of the sierra which had previously yielded fossils from mammals including bison, deer and bear as well as birds and a mouse.

    The foundation said studies of the geological level suggested it was more than one million years old but that final results were being awaited prior to "publishing this extraordinary finding in a research journal of the highest scientific prestige."

    Bermudez de Castro, one of three paleontologists leading the expedition, said the fossil appeared to be "well worn" and from an individual aged between 20-25.

    "For the time being we have no idea what species but there is no doubt, from the (geological) level where the tooth was found, that it belonged to the oldest European found to date," he added.

    Excavations in recent years in the sierra have uncovered human remains ranging from early humans through the Bronze Age to modern man.

    Atapuerca's most famous site is "Sima de los Huesos" (pit of bones) and fossils found there date from at least 350,000 years ago.
    7734) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Endangered/Extinct Species (Message 598229)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scientists fly into raptures over flightless Fred

    By Ed Harris Fri Jun 29, 11:23 AM ET


    [Caption: An undated illustration of a dodo. The remains of a dodo found in a cave beneath bamboo and tea plantations in Mauritius offer the best chance yet to learn about the extinct flightless bird, a scientist said on Friday. (HO/File/Reuters)]

    BOIS CHERI, Mauritius (Reuters) - The remains of a dodo found in a cave beneath bamboo and tea plantations in Mauritius offer the best chance yet to learn about the extinct flightless bird, a scientist said on Friday.

    The discovery was made earlier this month in the Mauritian highlands but the location was kept secret until the recovery of the skeleton, nicknamed "Fred," was completed on Friday. Four men guarded the site overnight.

    Julian Hume, a paleontologist at Britain's Natural History Museum, told Reuters the remains were likely to yield excellent DNA and other vital clues, because they were found intact, in isolation, and in a cave.

    "The geneticists who want to get their hands on this will be skipping down the street," he said, after bringing the last of the remains to the surface.

    Given the nickname "Fred" after the 65-year-old who found them, the remains should provide the first decent specimens of dodo DNA, he said.

    "Then you can work out how it actually got to Mauritius, because it must have originally flown here before evolving into flightlessness and the big, fat bird that we know," he said.

    "We know it's a giant pigeon," he added.

    It the first discovery of dodo remains away from the coastal regions, suggesting that the bird, extinct since the 17th century, lived all over the Indian Ocean island, he said.

    Hume said the dodo was almost certainly finished off by animals introduced by Europeans about 400 years ago. Theories that it was hunted to extinction by the Dutch were "total nonsense," he said, adding that the remains were highly fragile.

    "If you try and pick it up, it just falls apart," he said. "You won't see a mounted, beautiful thing from this."
    7735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598226)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Surge of dead seabirds alarms scientists

    By BRUCE SMITH, Associated Press Writer Tue Jul 3, 8:09 PM ET

    CHARLESTON, S.C. - Hundreds of dead seabirds that washed up along the Southeast coast in recent weeks apparently starved to death, but experts don't know why.

    The deaths of the birds — similar to gulls and called greater shearwaters — have wildlife officials worried about possible changes in the ocean that could have affected the fish that the birds usually eat.

    "It's got a lot of folks talking and wondering," said Jennifer Koches, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. "Is this a canary in the coal mine issue? Is there something that serious going on out in the ocean that it should be causing us serious alarm?"

    An estimated 1,000 of the dead birds have been found from the Bahamas to Florida and north to the Carolinas, said Craig Watson, a wildlife biologist with the Fish and Wildlife Service.

    About 160 have been found along the South Carolina coast from Hilton Head to Murrells Inlet.

    The birds, which feed on small fish, nest on islands off southern Africa and then migrate north during the summer to the ocean off Canada. Most of the dead birds are juveniles that were born this year.

    "It does look like they are starving to death," Watson said. "They are extremely malnourished."

    The winds on the ocean could be pushing the birds off course where they find less to eat, he said.

    "The other thing is the forage fish they rely on may be unavailable to them for some reason," Watson said. "Is it because there is less out there? We don't know. We are hearing that off the coast of South Carolina it could be one of the worst years on record for forage fish."

    Initial tests on the dead birds do not seem to indicate bird flu or some other disease. Al Segars, a state Department of Natural Resources veterinarian, said that dehydration also was a factor because seabirds get much of the water they need from the fish they eat.

    There was a similar die-off two years ago when about 600 dead birds were found, Watson said.

    He said some other birds have also been found in recent weeks, but the majority are the shearwaters. There is always mortality among the young birds "but this appears to be a little more," Watson said.

    "There are millions of these shearwaters out on the ocean. I'm not sure an event like this would impact the population that greatly unless it happens year after year," he said. "But the bigger question is, 'Why is this happening?'"
    7736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 598223)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, whatever passions he may have, he does well at not demonstrating them.
    He keeps to the point. He has rarely expressed frustration that I know of and, when he does, it is brief, non-abusive and he leaves the discussion or at least does not carry it out with a particular poster.

    Anyway, Thorin's points have been the intentional sharing of stuff freely.
    7737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 598220)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thought it might be somewhat funny that some 'expert' was paid a lot of money to come up with this idea.

    You mean, what is the origin of such speed laws?
    As for funny, yeah, that got me far, too! :)
    7738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 598216)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't make a moral judgment, I didn't say it was right or wrong. I said it simply IS. It IS reality, like it or not, and given that NO ONE will/can use the resources it would take to prosecute even 1/10,000th of the people that do it, the practice will continue.
    Let me ask you this. How is what you're doing different from the thief who crawls through a window?
    If all he's after is the collection of CDs and DVDs then isn't he technically doing the same thing you are?

    He did not say he is doing it. [EDIT: At least, I did not catch it, if he did, at a quick read.]
    Meet Rush. He'll come right down the middle, pointing out errors in arguments coming from either side. I think. :)
    7739) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Black holes and the big bang (Message 598210)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting.
    Let's back up.
    Do we know of galaxies with little mass towards the galactic core?
    It was my understanding that, in the Milky Way, things are a lot more dense at the core ... ?
    7740) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Archaeology and Paleontology (Message 598207)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Egypt to use DNA tests to identify pharaoh Tuthmosis


    [Caption: Peruvian archaeologist Walter Alva (L) poses with fellow archaeologists in a tomb from the ancient Mochica culture discovered at the Huaca Rajada site in the northern Peruvian city of Chiclayo July 2, 2007. The tomb is estimated to be about 1,700 years old, according to archaeologists. Picture taken July 2, 2007. REUTERS/Museo Tumbas Reales de Sipan/Handout (PERU). EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NOT FOR SALE FOR MARKETING OR ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS.]

    Tue Jul 3, 1:22 PM ET

    CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt will run DNA tests on an unidentified mummy to determine whether it is the pharaoh Tuthmosis I, who ruled over a period of military expansion and extensive construction, state news agency MENA said on Tuesday.

    Egypt's chief archaeologist Zahi Hawass said the findings would be compared with DNA from mummies of known members of Tuthmosis's family, including Queen Hatshepsut, whose mummy was identified last week, and Kings Tuthmosis II and III, according to MENA.

    Hawass said on Wednesday that he had recently concluded that a mummy once assumed to be that of Tuthmosis I was not in fact his, but belonged to a much younger man who died from an arrow wound.

    According to MENA, Hawass said the conclusion had prompted a new search for Tuthmosis's mummy.

    Tuthmosis, who took the throne somewhere around 1506 BC, led a series of successful military expeditions, expanding Egypt's territory into Nubia and the Levant.

    After his death, he was succeeded by Tuthmosis II, his son from a minor wife, who chose to marry his royal half-sister, the famous Queen Hatshepsut, to cement his claim to the throne.
    7741) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Endangered/Extinct Species (Message 598206)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scientists find endangered monkey in Vietnam



    Tue Jul 3, 6:06 AM ET

    HANOI (Reuters) - Scientists have found the world's largest-known population of an endangered monkey species in central Vietnam, increasing its chances of survival, conservationists said on Tuesday.

    Surveys since 2005 by the WWF global environmental conservation organization and Conservation International recorded at least 116 of the tree-dwelling grey-shanked doucs, one of the world's 25 most endangered primates.

    "It's very rare to discover a population of this size with such high numbers in a small area, especially for a species on the brink of extinction," Barney Long, a conservation coordinator with WWF Vietnam, said in a statement.

    "This indicates that the population has not been impacted by hunting like all other known populations of the species."

    The species has only been recorded in the five central Vietnam provinces of Quang Nam, Kon Tum, Quang Ngai, Binh Dinh and Gia Lai. Fewer than 1,000 are believed to exist, and until the discovery announced on Tuesday, only one other population with more than 100 animals was known, the statement said.

    Conservation International said 65 per cent of Vietnam's primates are endangered.
    7742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : In the News (Message 598204)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scientists solve puzzle of Chile's missing lake




    Tue Jul 3, 4:51 PM ET

    SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Scientists said that a lake in southern Chile that mysteriously disappeared last month developed a crack which allowed the water to drain away.

    A buildup of water opened a crack in an ice wall along one side of the lake. Water flowed through the crack into a nearby fjord and from there into the sea, leaving behind a dry lake-bed littered with icebergs, scientists told Chilean state television on Tuesday.

    "It looks like it's slowly filling up with water again," said Andres Rivera, a glacier expert who headed a team which recently flew over the lake in a bid to solve the mystery.

    The lake is situated in the Magallanes region in Patagonia and is fed by melt-water from glaciers. Earlier this year it had a surface area of 4 to 5 hectares (10-12 acres) -- about the size of 10 soccer fields.

    Scientists noticed it had disappeared during a routine patrol of the area in May.

    Rivera said the incident was evidence of the effects of global warming.
    7743) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Internet communications technology (Message 598203)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Google acquires Web-calling service GrandCentral

    By Eric Auchard Tue Jul 3, 2:11 PM ET

    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc. has acquired GrandCentral Communications, a start-up that lets users manage their existing phones and voice mailboxes over the Web as if they were a single account, the company said on Monday.

    Financial terms were not disclosed.

    Grand Central of Fremont, California is one of dozens of innovative companies that are taking advantage of Web-based software to allow consumers and businesses to make voice calls over the Internet while also working with regular phones.

    GrandCentral was founded in late 2005 by Craig Walker and Vincent Paquet, who worked together while running Web-calling pioneer Dialpad Communications. Google's biggest rival, Yahoo Inc., acquired Dialpad in June 2005.

    "You get a single phone number that forwards to all of your phones, giving you one number for life," Walker and Paquet said in a statement on GrandCentral's Web site confirming the deal.

    EBay Inc. unit Skype, a pioneer in the Internet phone market, has signed up more than 200 million users for its free or low-cost phone services globally. Newer names in the field include venture-backed firms Jajah, Jangl, Jaxtr and Rebtel, which together have signed up millions of users in just the past year.

    The idea for GrandCentral was borne out of Walker's frustration upon landing at a local airport and realizing he needed to check three voicemail mail boxes -- one for his cell phone, another for work and one for his Blackberry phone.

    "If you have multiple phone numbers (e.g., home, work, cell), you get one phone number that you can set to ring all, some, or none of your phones," Wesley Chan, a Google product manager, said in a blog post on his company's Web site.

    "This way, your phone number is tied to you, and not your location or job," he said.

    Rather than competing directly with the likes of Vodafone Plc or China Telecom Corp. Ltd., many of these newer Web-based calling services are focused on incorporating phone-like talk features into Internet services on blogs or social network sites like MySpace or Facebook.

    Konstantin Guericke, the co-founder of Silicon Valley-based business networking site LinkedIn, took over as the chief executive of Web-calling service Jaxtr late last year.

    "The way I see it, social networks and blogs are about communication and the phone hasn't been really in the mix," Guericke told Reuters following news of Google's acquisition.

    GrandCentral has been holding public tests of its service for several months. Current GrandCentral customers will continue to have uninterrupted service, Google said.

    However, one feature that allowed users to upload their own audio tracks to create ringtones now will be limited to licensed music, GrandCentral said on its own site.

    A limited number of invitations to receive GrandCentral unified numbers will be available for users who sign up at http://www.grandcentral.com, it said.

    "We think GrandCentral's technology fits well into Google's efforts to provide services that enhance the collaborative exchange of information between our users," Chan said. Google did not disclose future products plans it has in the area.

    But voice-calling features will quickly be built into many popular Web sites over the next three months to a year, Guericke said. "We think there is a billion-dollar business to be built, so we have no plans to get acquired any time soon."

    In the last five weeks, Jaxtr has seen the number of registered users of its service on sites like Facebook grow to 300,000 users from 100,000 on May 25, he said.
    7744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : you are all Good people here at the Café you are all winners in my books! (Message 598174)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I miss him because he hardly posts in the Cafe. :(
    I suspect he rivals Rocky in the respect he has and at least Byron is still with us.
    7745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598171)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [There's probably a fine line between the enjoyment/property right and the fear of another man seeing her face.
    I am trying to remember if I have been told another interpretation of this practice, whether by my Muslim friends or anyone else.

    There is a fine line between the two, and I think it's a question of cultural context.
    This seems to be a fundamentalist trait. Orthodox Jewish women wear wigs in public for the same reason I gave. The same with the Quaker women in Pennsylvania and their bonnets; though modesty per se, to be 'plain', is a part of that too.

    I've heard about the wigs. Mostly among Hasids, correct?
    7746) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598167)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you have a society where men force their women to cover from head to toe, there's some sort of fear facor at work. The fear of other men actually seing the faces of their women.

    Um, I think you misunderstand the practice A/C, with respect.
    The women are covered up to preserve the intimacy of their appearance for their husbands' enjoyment, I think. It seems more of a property right to me, than any kind of cowardice.

    There's probably a fine line between the enjoyment/property right and the fear of another man seeing her face.
    I am trying to remember if I have been told another interpretation of this practice, whether by my Muslim friends or anyone else.
    7747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . exercisING undue authority (Message 598160)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm ... to be blunt, that assumes the woman would be attractive to other men.
    Some are.
    Some ... probably not. :(
    7748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 598129)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    7749) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Black holes and the big bang (Message 598115)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just as thoughts, sure ...
    Erupt its contents elsewhere? Could be. I think that's been theorized.
    Where? Elsewhere in this universe? Probably. Into another universe? Well, maybe.
    Create a big bang starting another universe? Well, can someone tell us the amount of energy predicted to have been involved in the Big Bang? Does what a black hole sucks in equal this? I tend to doubt that. But these are just thoughts.
    7750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 598109)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Northern Territory used to have highways that were unlimited. Long straight roads (not much better than Queensland's highways). The fastest my dad ever did on them was 130 kph. We still got overtaken at times.

    Ever get overtaken by a highly-customized, black, 1973 XB GT Ford Falcon Coupe?


    No I don't think so, but it was several years ago.

    Why? You drive around in the Northern Territory of Australia?


    He's got ya there, Rush! :)
    7751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Mystery clouds (Message 598108)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, nice pictures, and I am sure Jason likes how they look as well.
    However, seeing some of his other threads, I strongly suspect he would rather discuss with you WHY this is happening.
    Right or wrong, Jason?
    7752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 598105)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We were taught in driver's education classes in 1985 that we should be at least 4 seconds behind any vehicle in front us. That means that you watch them pass a stationary object (such as a sign), then do your best to count off how many seconds it is before you pass it.

    The speed limit then was 55 mph (88 kph).

    People 10 years younger than me think that "following time" is only supposed to be 2-3 seconds, and that's with speed limits being 5-15 mph (8-24 kph) higher than before. (Plus, assuming they're actually obeying the limit.)

    Martin, some background:

      Don't take offense, msattler. I created this thread because others were not seeing my point about the differences between

      Good and bad ideas
      Legal and illegal
      Right and wrong
      (and, for the religious/spiritual-minded) Good and evil/sin.



    I do not claim to be an expert driver. I rarely drive. When I do, I do sometimes exceed the speed limit on interstates so I can spread things out. As soon as I can, I return to the slow lane, leaving plenty of room in front of me and behind me so that I can have that distance/time to stop.

    Finally, here's a poem/song I wrote in the Summer of 1996, reflecting on being hit by a drunk driver doing 80-100 mph (128-160 kph) in the Summer of 1994, as I returned from an interview. Want some more details about it besides what you can glean from the poem?

    (Unfortunately, the first few lines are too reminiscent of Journey's "Faithfully.")

    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=15950&nowrap=true#241441

    Highway drive.
    Sixty-five.
    1000 miles behind,
    Blurring in my mind.
    The journey's end's so far.
    Music's loud & I'm protected in my car -
    but I'm feeling tired
    and it's time to retire.
    I have to pull off & sleep soon.
    Get some sleep.
    Pray the Lord my soul to keep.

    Good ole boy.
    Brand new toy.
    Watch out lil southern town,
    when he & the gang's around.
    The night has just begun,
    the music's loud & he's buying drinks for everyone.
    He's been feeling wired.
    Set the world on fire.
    Shoot 'em up & howl at the moon.
    Hold on tight.
    Lord, no sleep in here tonight.

    Rear-view mirror.
    You're too near.
    100 miles an hour.
    Unaware of your power.
    The music still plays as you slam into my car.
    The journey's end just got farther.
    The world spins & comes to a screeching halt.
    All around me are the shattered results.
    I don't want to think about it.
    I need to sleep.
    Pray the Lord my soul to keep.
    7753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 598102)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The Marble Thinker"
    by me
    sometime in Fall 1994 or Winter 1994/1995.

    Truth -
    permeates our existence.
    Falsehood -
    hinders our persistence.
    What will you offer up
    in resistance?
    Will you swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time,
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to sell ya -
    It's called
    propaganda.
    Truth rearranged,
    money's exchanged.
    Truth become lies, bought.
    Never given a 2nd thought.

    We -
    are watching from the fence.
    Watching
    them fight for the defense.
    Just takes a few thousand dollars,
    for them to put a spin on the evidence.
    Will we swallow it
    hook, line & sinker?
    Prime-time
    boob-tube
    marble thinker.

    What they're trying to tell ya -
    could it be
    they have an agenda?
    It's all perception.
    If there are 2 sides to every story,
    is there no such thing as deception?
    Artful depiction -
    leaving only 1 choice for the jury ...
    Not enough evidence for conviction.

    Truth -
    "It's all relative" isn't what Daddy said.
    Falsehood -
    is what we keep getting fed.
    I will offer up
    a fight until I'm dead.
    No, I won't swallow it -
    hook, line & sinker.
    I define the fine line
    between an open mind & a marble thinker.

    So awkward and out of place -
    I see
    you're charmed by my smiling face.
    Put me on the stand -
    raise my right hand.
    Of course, you believe me.
    "He couldn't be lying, could he?"
    7754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 598065)
    Posted 4 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Thorin" wrote:
    Hi Sarge,

    Could you please copy&paste this one into the Copyright vs Copyleft thread? I can't post atm, need to gain more RAC before.

    -------------------------

    I realize that this conversation is about digital distribution of music- but I feel I have some insight here. Being a writer who depends on my fans buying my books- these Free distributions bother me. And it also bother me that some people think it should be okay-

    I'm not trying to cause trouble here- I'm grateful that there's laws in place to protect creative works.

    I look at it this way- I wouldn't want some one distributing free copies of my work.

    As an unknown writer and nowhere near the caliber of Stephen King and Tom Clancy - if some one were to pass on copies of my work- they would be cutting in to my paycheck which takes food off my table.

    The main thing about these Free Licenses is that the artist / author deliberately puts his work under such a license.
    A friend of mine whom I am translating for and helping out as a ghost-writer always puts this sign: (the symbol for "Copyleft") below each of his texts, deliberately. He wishes that his texts are able to be copied free. It's his decision to not gain profit from it.
    I agree with you nonetheless that taking something which is not intended to be given away for free is theft. Look at the GPL quotation which I posted at the beginning of this thread, there also is a COPYRIGHT paragraph in it. But the GPL and similar free licenses are only working - and only then - when the AUTHOR / ARTIST themselves put this license upon their work. These Licenses do not allow any theft or copying/distribution without accepting the license.
    So no reason to be bothered by any Free Licenses. If you don't claim your books to be "copyleft" by yourselves, all free copying and distribution is theft or receiving stolen goods
    7755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 598033)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not that eyewitness accounts, with nothing else to go on, must be considered bogus. It's that they do not provide enough to go on. (You've already addressed reliability.)
    BTW, you might want to check a profile: it'll help the understanding and vice versa. Consider slang and abbreviations being used.
    7756) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 598004)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's the snooze feature?
    7757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 597953)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Free music, like free software, is music that can freely be copied, distributed and modified for any purpose. Thus free music is either in the public domain or licensed under a public license. It does not mean that there should be no fee involved. The word free refers to freedom (as in free software), not to price.


    The above is from the Wikipedia entry you linked to.

    What that says to me is that, even though the music is in the public domain, the RIAA could still very well decide that they wanted to charge me fees for using it on an Internet Radio Station.

    I may be misreading it, but I don't want to wind up with the RIAA knocking on my door in six months or a year telling me I owe them a boatload of money.

    Most artists who put their art under Free License don't want any money for it - and as you see: you also have the right of free distribution. And isn't playing it on a website a kind of distribution?
    Same with Linux: You can download it for free, but you also can buy it (including a support service) - both do grant you the same freedom to copy, to distribute, to modify it for any purpose.


    Ok. Thanks for the link Thorin. I will check it out and see if there is any music there that I would want to play.

    Never know.....I may decide that Calm Chaos Radio is a good idea after all..lol


    Amazon.com also has quite a collection of free music to download.
    7758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Copyright vs. Copyleft (Message 597951)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why has it always been okay to record music off the radio but now it is such a crime to download and record music from the internet... Is there a difference?

    To me, this is just more kooky rules and regulations set in place by profiteers... ;)


    Somebody would have to look this up, but I do not think it is or was legal to record music from the radio. They just wanted to tempt us more by putting the different devices together.
    7759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 597944)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Before the speed cameras enforcing regulations (speed only), I had my car up towards the speeds Mike drove at. The A1 15 years ago, on a late June Sunday evening was empty then.

    Well, if it is empty, not too curvy, etc. ... .
    7760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597939)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    7761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597925)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the last shall be first?

    Or first is last?

    Watch it; or, I'll sick I-Chaya on you. ;-D
    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Whats an I-Chaya??? LOL

    A Vulcan new aged iced tea,, made out of Vulcan teddy bears.
    7762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597919)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And the last shall be first?
    7763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 597869)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quick post to change the thread title.
    7764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 597868)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I find it interesting because we sell much cars from germany in the US.

    What does those guys with an porsche?

    Driving 55 mph would be an joke in germany.
    I drive almost over 230 kph should be around 110 mph on the highways.


    On interstates, depending on where you are, the limit might be 70 but many are doing 80. When I do drive, I find myself needing to do that in order to keep plenty of space between myself and others.

    BTW, folks, I was surprised to see this thread get revived. You can see in an earlier post why I created it. But, it has generated such good discussion, I guess we can keep it going, right?
    7765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597838)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've heard that rhyme before.
    Pretty ancient around these here United States.
    7766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597832)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Objects are closer than they appear.

    Dang!
    I should have thought of that rhyme when I wrote that in 1996.
    7767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597824)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see ya all back there...In my rear view mirror.

    Rear view mirror
    you're too near.
    100 miles an hour,
    unaware of your power.
    7768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 597821)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I find it interesting because we sell much cars from germany in the US.

    What does those guys with an porsche?

    Driving 55 mph would be an joke in germany.
    I drive almost over 230 kph should be around 110 mph on the highways.


    Multiply by the fraction 5/8 to convert from kph to mph.
    7769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 597816)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interesting post, WinterKnight.
    7770) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old chicken bones show Polynesians came to Chile (Message 597747)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So did aborigenies. or however
    you spell it

    The aborigines also did what?
    7771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sci-Fi Movies of the 1950's (Message 597740)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Broken link?
    7772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 597736)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen any bears lately?

    They were out in full force.

    Did someone ear their porridge?

    You often put porridge in your ears, Sarge??

    Oops! Another typo! EAT, not EAR. Ugh. No wonder KM asked that! :)
    7773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 597735)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ugh. I hate reading my old posts and finding errors. Bolded stuff shows the correct grammar, etc. ... .

    As for two square roots, I've found a common misconception coming up when I am teaching earlier algebra to college students.

    When one solves something like x^2 = 25, we know x = +5 because we can also solve it by factoring x^2 - 25 = 0 with the difference of two squares.

    7774) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Before the "Big Bang"... (Message 597729)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070701/sc_space/glimpseoftimebeforebigbangpossible
    7775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 597721)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    What about the idea of taking the negative square root instead, as opposed to the positive (or principal) square root?

    As stated, from calculus, f(x) = sqrt(x) is an increasing function. Similarly, g(x) = -1 * sqrt(x) is a decreasing function. So, if a >= b, then -1 * sqrt(a) <= -1 * sqrt(b). But then multiplying (or dividing) both sides by -1 will change the direction of the inequality: sqrt(a) >= sqrt(b).

    Here's a hint about the diagrams:



    and

    7776) Questions and Answers : Web site : New Team (Message 597698)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am an individual member. Hoe do I form a team ?

    Visit this link to create a team: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_create_form.php.
    7777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redeeming Qualities (Message 597621)
    Posted 3 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Please hide this thread and the others threads I requested be hidden, through the newly designated proper channel of the red-X. Thank you.
    7778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 597552)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Under my temporary stewardship while Timmy is on hiatus.
    Gee, Dan! When I started a thread with Rocky's name in it, it got deleted. Funny thing . . .

    I thought we were supposed to get past these things or address our complaints through the proper channels.
    I wasn't even around to know Rocky.
    Why are we suffering for the grudge matches of posters that have been here longer?
    7779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597533)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Doh!



    I've seen that one.
    Which is why I avoid words like "find" and ask them to calculate, compute, solve for, etc. ... .
    7780) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 597314)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Monday is almost over. YAY!

    >>>WINNING<<<

    Monday has just started...Booo!


    No work for me.



    Some guy´s have all the luck!!!!


    Some guys have all the pain.
    7781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 597306)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm out too...

    Ya'll behave yourselves now

    see ya banana


    I thought we weren't allowed to say banana on this message board. :)
    7782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ok, how about this then? (Message 597300)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:








    Well ... I guess these must be acceptable.
    7783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 597192)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The following is from Misfit's opening thread in the Science Forum:
    Welcome to the SETI Science forum!
    Life in the universe, radio SETI, and SETI@home's search for ET[b]
    A friendly request to use this forum only for subjects relating to:


    Astrobiology
    Astronomy
    Astrosociobiology
    Extraterrestrial Life
    Methodology of SETI@home
    Outer Space
    Physical Cosmology
    Radio S.E.T.I.
    Space Science

    When posting, please keep in mind to stay on the subject of the thread as people who do believe in the interest of this forum cannot be happy when looking at posts that have nothing to do with the thread itself. All people interested in Science thank you for your understanding and kind cooperation.


    Now, many of those posting for the side of UFOs being of extraterrestrial origin are indeed meeting Criteria #4.
    Furthermore, follow the link there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life and one finds another link, Extraterrestrial life in popular culture. Specifically, one of the sections is: 3.2 Ufos.
    Last, there are others who post in the thread in the attempt to de-bunk at least some of what the believers put forward as evidence. Looking at the posts, one can see that there are quite a few that go into more depth than:

    If there was any proof that Unidentified Flying Objects were in fact from anywhere off of this earth, a much better case could be made for this being science rather than pseudo science or pure speculation. An in focus picture or an artifact would be an imense help in this regard to everyone on both sides.


    So, the movement impacts not just those who may or may not be just posting their "beliefs," but also those that seek to address what they say is unlikely or flat out wrong, supported by science.
    7784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redeeming Qualities (Message 597170)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But Hollywood is not the only place entertainment comes from.
    7785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redeeming Qualities (Message 597164)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    [towelling dry] YUUUUUUCK, slobber everywhere![/towelling dry]lol

    towel???
    swallow

    HHHMMM??? While we are enertaining, we hardly could call this redeeming.

    So entertainment has no redeeming qualities?
    7786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redeeming Qualities (Message 597069)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Everything I post has redeeming qualities.

    I just haven't found them yet. :-)


    We'll help you look. :)
    7787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 597067)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - the movement of threads from there to her or vice versa seems to be based on whether it meets a condition of whether it is about astronomy. Is this a narrow interpretation of the intentions of the board developers of what the Science Forum was supposed to be about?

    Basically science related to SETI - Astronomy, cosmology, exobiology and extra terestrial geology (don't know exactly what this field should be called).

    OK, John. But, SETI is primarily about astronomy as it pertains to searching for signals from intelligent extraterrestrial life. Those that believe UFOs are a different indication of intelligent extraterrestrial life are treading the same ground in a different way. In the other forum, you are much more likely to find people responding to those that believe in UFOs being related to extraterrestrials with comments that quote Carl Sagan's views on the likelihood of that.
    7788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 597048)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - the movement of threads from there to her or vice versa seems to be based on whether it meets a condition of whether it is about astronomy. Is this a narrow interpretation of the intentions of the board developers of what the Science Forum was supposed to be about?
    7789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 597045)
    Posted 2 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... because of Ufo things are Officially not proven yet Scientifically not denied so please move back this thread to the Science section...

    Wrong argument, and all arse-about-tit backwards.

    There's no scientific suggestion for UFO 'things'.

    Note that it is often impossible to completely prove a 'negative'. We live in a world where all things might be possible...


    To my mind, the contents of this thread are more like "Cafe" subject stuff rather than actually anything 'scientific'.

    And then again, it is rather quiet over on the Science forum!


    Keep searchin',
    Martin


    Martin,

    One, yes, it is quieter over in the Science Forum and I do not see how that can be a good thing.
    Two, by a thread such as this or Jason's "Unexplainable Object ..." thread being in the Science Forum, it gives people a chance to post what may be scientific refutations or support for the issues MrGray or Jason have brought to our attention. I see this as very different from the rest of the Cafe threads.
    Unless, of course, someone wants to move the Stem Cell Research or Global Warming threads over to the Science Forum?
    7790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 597007)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You made your case well, Orgil.
    7791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 596994)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Amen.
    Speak the word.
    So let it be written, so let is be done.
    So say we all.
    7792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596989)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What did, are, or will you have/having/have for dinner, folks? :)
    7793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596892)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That would be like going to McDonald's after leaving the Ritz.

    Wow.
    Sister, are you familiar with the term "burn"? :)
    Luckily, Pawly is a resilient fellow.
    7794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 596857)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while making a statement...

    Pertaining to Chris S.'s signature line about "i before e except after c? That's weird!"

    hmmm Science can be weird. ;-D (It can be fun, too; however, 'fun' doesn't fit along with the aforementioned signature line.)


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D



    Einstein's not an English name, anyway, so they can put E before I, even without C, if they want to. :)


    But science can be weird nonetheless :-)


    Do you mean its findings can be weird?
    7795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 596849)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while making a statement...

    Pertaining to Chris S.'s signature line about "i before e except after c? That's weird!"

    hmmm Science can be weird. ;-D (It can be fun, too; however, 'fun' doesn't fit along with the aforementioned signature line.)


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D



    Einstein's not an English name, anyway, so they can put E before I, even without C, if they want to. :)
    7796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596844)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <--- Enjoyin an icy cold Sleeman Original Draught (in a bottle). First of many after a lovely family lunch, consisting of Fettucine in Homemade Pesto Sauce (Basil grown in backyad and picked right before preparing sauce), BBQ Pork Ribs & Grilled Vegetables.

    I shoulda took a pic but it smelled so good it didn't last very long!

    *EDIT* HEEEELLLLLOOOOOOOOOO Ladies.


    Darn it!
    Now I have to go to Pawly's after Beets'.
    7797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596807)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I know nothing!"
    (Ich kenne nicht.)

    Sargent Schultz.
    7798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596800)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Odds 10-1 on thread disappearing in 30 minutes. Bets anyone?


    For 20 RAC... You're on!

    And...

    You loose!

    I win!


    Just dipping my toe in the water there, a bit shallower than I thought.


    That be 20 RAC, leaving you with 9. oO. :-P

    An' don' give me any o' dat, "Not fair! You placed the bet after the results were clear!"

    Your offer dun contain no time limits.


    You wanna bet again? LOL


    Does this thread have any redeeming qualities? :)


    Only if your humor is sick and demented, like mine.


    Mmmm, maybe a little demented.
    Must be my partially English ancestry.
    7799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596796)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's gonna be driving?



    Not us Canucks! LOL


    Dang it, I need a passport to get the Canada for Beets' party!
    Darn Homeland Security Moderators.

    No, you don't! It's Canada Day!!!

    Everybody's drunk and nobody's working, not even at Customs.


    Just walk on by! Heehee


    LOL!
    Yes, I know n0body's working, b/c he's been posting his thoughts on it. :)

    That old hippie?

    He's only taking photographs. He's not taking names, Silly!


    He got a haircut.
    7800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596795)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Odds 10-1 on thread disappearing in 30 minutes. Bets anyone?


    For 20 RAC... You're on!

    And...

    You loose!

    I win!


    Just dipping my toe in the water there, a bit shallower than I thought.


    That be 20 RAC, leaving you with 9. oO. :-P

    An' don' give me any o' dat, "Not fair! You placed the bet after the results were clear!"

    Your offer dun contain no time limits.


    You wanna bet again? LOL


    Does this thread have any redeeming qualities? :)
    7801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596787)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Odds 10-1 on thread disappearing in 30 minutes. Bets anyone?


    For 20 RAC... You're on!

    And...

    You loose!


    I win!


    You loose be sounding like dat odder way of talkin', yo.
    I lose (one 0), u win, do0d.
    7802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596785)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's gonna be driving?



    Not us Canucks! LOL


    Dang it, I need a passport to get the Canada for Beets' party!
    Darn Homeland Security Moderators.

    No, you don't! It's Canada Day!!!

    Everybody's drunk and nobody's working, not even at Customs.


    Just walk on by! Heehee


    LOL!
    Yes, I know n0body's working, b/c he's been posting his thoughts on it. :)
    7803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596779)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn it, who made it say "Hood"?


    Thats better!!!

    Odds reduced to 100-1

    :-)


    Darn it, 100 can say there's nothing wrong with it, but only one has to disagree.
    7804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596778)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmm, French Toast! Yummy! Any syrup?


    Of course, but its all gone now.

    I've been told I don't share very well.


    Was that your ex that said that? :(
    7805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596775)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's gonna be driving?



    Not us Canucks! LOL


    Dang it, I need a passport to get the Canada for Beets' party!
    Darn Homeland Security Moderators.
    7806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596769)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey folks, finally home after a long boring Saturday night at work. Sittin and having a beer before bed. :-)


    Enjoy

    I'm with the coffee and breakfast!


    Good Morning Jeremy, Longshanks, John, Mike and Al!


    Did I hear someone say "Coffee"?

    I just put on a fresh pot...

    Coffee anyone?




    To coffee, I say, "HELL YEAH!" :)
    7807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596767)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Good monring, afternoon, night all.

    Guten morgen, abend und nacht, Herr Mike. :)
    7808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596764)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you scan down the page, we all look like twins.

    could you organize your twin (me) a huge early morning espresso, please?

    Holy crap, we're quadruplets! :)

    at least :) dunno how many clones are around here...

    Ya'll just wanna be like Me. LOL :-)

    Then we really could say "It's me, AGAIN!"
    7809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#39 - HEALTH & SAFETY HAVE CLOSED THIS THREAD (Message 596757)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning here because #38 was killed for no apparent reason. I saw no flame posts, no arguments; nothing to warrant a lock out... WTF???



    You didn't see them because they were removed rather quickly, many did not deserve the treatment they received.



    TimeLord would make a good mod.
    7810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redeeming Qualities (Message 596749)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From here on, all posts must now demonstrate redeemable qualities. All creatures in the universe must be able to recognize the redeemable qualities as such. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! :P
    7811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 596746)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    <------ nEEd anything *ErasEd* in 'ErE . . . ;*)



    LOL!
    Maybe in a couple other threads. :)
    7812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596732)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have links to family in Vancouver, Fort St. John, Hudsons Hope, Calgary, and Toronto. My Grandfather was in the Lakes area in the early 1900's seeking his fortune. Feel half flipping Cannuck anyway

    Was that the grandfather from the "swimming incident"?

    Fair treatment for all SETIzens!


    Yes, yes it was! Jeez you've got a good memory! Still on their wanted list I imagine. There was a girl from Montreal called Christine in the 1960's, but I screwed up big time.....

    It was a great story Chris...unforgettable.

    Fair treatment for all SETIzens!


    The Sir Winston Churchill Pub & The Boiler Room - Crescent Street, off St. Catherine . . . ;*)



    Hey, no sharing addresses publicly! :)
    7813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596730)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's this long line of SETI@Home cafe'ers winding down the street near Beets' house?


    There is a growing group among us, that simply objects to heavy-handed moderating and arrogant conduct.


    Willing conscripts wanting to sign up, word has got around. And a slurp of something special upon induction is always attractive.




    OK, so, Beets is plying new conscripts with expensive Canada Day Cognac? :)
    7814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : , (Message 596729)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/stalk

    Main Entry: 1stalk
    Pronunciation: 'stok
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English stalke; akin to Old English stela stalk, support
    1 : a slender upright object or supporting or connecting part; especially : PEDUNCLE
    2 a : the main stem of an herbaceous plant often with its dependent parts b : a part of a plant (as a petiole or stipe) that supports another
    7815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596718)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    mmm, lunch
    7816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596717)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pawly!!!
    7817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 596714)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beethoven, I would have thought you would be serving something special for Canada Day besides tea, nothing too extravagant I hope.

    Good morning everyone. :)


    An excellent point Sister Edith!


    Nothing less than the best for Canada's Birthday!!!



    We're drinking Remy-Martin Fils de Louis XIII cognac today. $1,600 a bottle, but worth every penny.


    Cheers! Enjoy!









    What's this long line of SETI@Home cafe'ers winding down the street near Beets' house?
    7818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : , (Message 596656)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well whats anything got to do with anything....

    Cause and effect?
    7819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596655)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL to the last two posts.
    7820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596650)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn it, who made it say "Hood"?
    7821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596647)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But! But!
    What's wrong with well-wishing and suggesting good nutrition? :)
    7822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596643)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmm, French Toast! Yummy! Any syrup?
    7823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596641)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bagels, anyone?
    Or an English Muffin?
    7824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Good morning, mods. :) (Message 596640)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sleep well last night? :)
    Time for orange juice and Wheaties! :)
    7825) Message boards : Cafe SETI : , (Message 596601)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    7826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596460)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you scan down the page, we all look like twins.

    could you organize your twin (me) a huge early morning espresso, please?

    Holy crap, we're quadruplets! :)
    7827) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD is A/C - June 30 2007 (Message 596447)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AC/DC rocks!
    Er, I mean, A/C.
    7828) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 596441)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen any bears lately?

    They were out in full force.

    Did someone ear their porridge?


    You often put porridge in your ears, Sarge??


    Better than wax! :)
    7829) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 596437)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen any bears lately?

    They were out in full force.

    Did someone ear their porridge?
    7830) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 596433)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen any bears lately?
    7831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596426)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3am just isn't coming fast enough.

    What happens at 3am?

    Gets out of work at that time?
    7832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 596412)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4gLkawe4U
    7833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 596392)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bringing this thread forward again, as a curtsy for cRunchy :)


    Umm...you mean a courtesy??? lol

    Yes, sorry ... my keyboard went on a temporal, partial strike anyhow...


    Sorry, Thorin. I just couldn't picture you doing a curtsey in front of cRunchy....lmao

    Well, I sure would look ridiculous wearing a dress and doing a curtsy.

    How about this for an avatar?
    7834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 596391)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I thought i'd dive in here for awhile...Any other lonely drinkers are welcome to join me.

    Howdy Dan. :-)

    Howdy, Jeremy!
    7835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Solidarność (Message 596381)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah ... awful dictatorial governance!
    And the unfortunate disease of opportunism!
    :(
    7836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 596377)
    Posted 1 Jul 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you know how blooming annoying it is to spend my time typing my usual cRuddy responses to a thread only to find the thread was killed whilst I was trying to respond?

    Yes I do cRunchy. I think I know what you are trying to say here. You are in mid conversation posting in a thread which is shattered by somebody, perhaps a member posting something which causes hide notices, or a moderator hiding posts for the wrong reason, and maybe not even unhiding them because they don't want to admit they made a mistake. I understand mistakes are made, on all sides, but people just don't realize how frustrating it is when they kill someone else's conversations. Just take a take a breath before hitting the post buttons or hitting those hide buttons.

    Please.


    Well, Qui-Gon does apologize for mistakes, so that is a positive sign.
    7837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK, what is this -seconds?????? (Message 595981)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw a In 15 Seconds earlier today too.

    In 7 seconds todays ago, because someone was hiding then unhiding posts.
    7838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Solidarność (Message 595974)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    7839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Solidarność (Message 595960)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity

    What thoughts come to mind?
    7840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OK where is it (Message 595955)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ESA wants volunteers to go on a simulated mission to the red planet.
    @ Misfit been over to the Science forum and i cant see it (Who wants to go to Mars)




    Isn't this stuff of moving threads getting silly?
    7841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 595952)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good Morning everyone!


    Thank Goodness It's Friday! It's Truckstop Breakfast this morning, to get us through the day to the weekend: Steak and Eggs, Homefries and Toast.


    Enjoy!












    What? It's still Friday?
    7842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 595950)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Howdy!
    7843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You Are What You Hear (Message 595948)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You Are What You Hear

    Are you calling me a liar? ;)

    What's going on here/hear?
    7844) Message boards : Number crunching : NEZ is No. 1 in the new BOINC All Project Stats (Message 595942)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    BOINC All Project Stats

    I wish I could be an all-star cruncher, too. :)
    7845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 595509)
    Posted 30 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I'm still waiting for my response, OzzFan.

    Still ... .
    7846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Predictor is banning members today. (Message 595457)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1.) Yes, it's true that discussion on the 'Wate Question', pro or con, will in all likelyhood draw you a posting suspension. I drew a 60 dayer, and I was defending the project's right to ban anyone, for any reason they saw fit to, for the simple reason that a forum hosted on a private server is not a democracy. However deleting the accounts (and the ban bypassing sub-accounts and team accounts) was reserved for the most egregious 'crusaders', contrary to 'popular' belief.

    I would like to correct something too.
    My account and my credits were deleted at Predictor.
    Do you know why ? i was not a "crusader" but i joined B4L because i didn't like what was happening.
    Later i read this news
    05/14/07
    Due to recent attacks on the Predictor@Home forums by a small group of malicious hackers we have enabled some restrictions in the forums. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause our volunteers. As so often is the case a few bad apples can spoil the lot and their behavior has forced us to enforce policies we would prefer not to. The accounts used by the attackers have been deleted. Despite these issues, which we will weather, we continue to value your efforts and the resources you volunteer toward the scientific objectives of the Predictor@Home project.

    My account has been deleted.



    I was also a member B4L. This team is deleted and all accounts on this team, too.
    Blame DLB!!! Everyone of B4L has lost all the credits.


    Champ, as the situation here at SETI@Home will rival this, and since you are a mod here, you might want to be careful admitting what you did there.
    ;)
    Just watching out for you, friend.
    Auf wierdersehen.
    7847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 595431)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I'm still waiting for my response, OzzFan.
    7848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boredom Formulator List (Message 595262)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    . . . makE a donation?

    1. nExT
    2.



    I've come to appreciate that little feature, thank you sir! ;)


    Which feature is that?
    7849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boredom Formulator List (Message 595227)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know what I want for Christmas! :)
    7850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boredom Formulator List (Message 595215)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nobody don't want no stinkin' private messages! :)
    7851) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boredom Formulator List (Message 595196)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    . . . makE a donation?

    1. nExT
    2.




    DoEs it hElp reliEvE modulator borEdom? :)


    'You have no unrEad private messages . . .'




    3. R4c mu5t be >=1000!
    7852) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 595184)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Talk, talk, talk! ;)
    7853) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Boredom Formulator List (Message 595182)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    . . . makE a donation?

    1. nExT
    2.




    Does it help relieve modulator boredom? :)
    7854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594974)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

    it'll be 1785 posts, soon!

    then 1790

    followed shortly thereafter by 1800
    7855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594973)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

    it'll be 1785 posts, soon!

    then 1790
    7856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594971)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

    it'll be 1785 posts, soon!
    7857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594969)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

    in deed
    7858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594965)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    that's ok.

    Like my new flag?

    ;-D

    You punk! :P
    7859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 594959)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is Timmy??? *don't know the hiatus*

    Hiatus...means a break...a vacation...In other words Timmy's RAC has slipped too low to post here.

    He might also not be feeling too well.
    7860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594957)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Like my new sig?
    7861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe/Closed 7-26-07 (Message 594955)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Come on In!

    Nice and Clean, Poot Free For now...

    Welcome!

    Greetings...It's another rendition of Rocky's Cafe!

    Come in and enjoy yourself.
    Everything is free and help yourself!
    No Flaming in the cafe Thanks.....
    Have Fun enjoy the free food and drink.
    Pleasant conversation only...
    If a discussion gets too long or heated please create a new thread.

    Under my temporary stewardship while Timmy is on hiatus.


    Woo hoo, Dan! :)
    7862) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594954)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.lebofsky.com/music/

      - Three Piece Combo - Instrumental experimental rock trio
      - Fuzzy Cousins - Opposable thumb rock duo
      - Midline Errors - Solo pop/experimental/vanity project
      - Research and Development - Big band prog/funk
      - Casino Royale - 60's cover band extraordinaire
      - The Fuxedos - Lounge freak-out punk jazz what the hell?
      - Faun Fables - Fuzzy Cousins performed with them (as opener and "backing band") on tour in spring 2006
      - JOB - Noisy, cathartic stuff - not "free jazz"
      - Dropsy - Catchy, upbeat, jazzy pop for cynical people
      - Immersion Composition Society - A real life musical Fight Club
      - Mumble & Peg - Indie rock. Not "folk." Not "classic rock."



    Oh, no! I've posted, and listened, to some of Matt Lebofksy's music!
    I must be trying to annoy him. It's not like I ever showed any interest in music in the forum before tonight!

    7863) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594948)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodness, Sarge! We seem to have struck a nerve. (Are you hep, Dugout Dick [Cheney])?

    On a technical note, while disallowing editing, another improvement would be to allow preview and spellchecking, although in the Cafe's defense, I grant this is one of the more literate islands in the otherwise abysmally embarrassing sea which is the average American speaker of English today.


    I too would like post preview. The spell checker built into firefox works well enough for me. If we could get a preview function, so I could check my posts for errors, then I would gladly support removal of the post edit function.


    Why have a post preview when you can re-read your post while in the message box?


    Why send a PM when you don't intend to answer the response? :)


    I'm waiting ... .


    Did you have to go to the mod e-mail distro list to come up with other insane reasons why I posted Ozzy lyrics?
    7864) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594947)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm *this* close to going for popcorn.

    Ha ha ha!
    7865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe... CLOSED (Message 594945)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's it for me tonight.


    Good night.



    May the Fours be with you!



    Nighty night Beets!
    7866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594942)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodness, Sarge! We seem to have struck a nerve. (Are you hep, Dugout Dick [Cheney])?

    On a technical note, while disallowing editing, another improvement would be to allow preview and spellchecking, although in the Cafe's defense, I grant this is one of the more literate islands in the otherwise abysmally embarrassing sea which is the average American speaker of English today.


    I too would like post preview. The spell checker built into firefox works well enough for me. If we could get a preview function, so I could check my posts for errors, then I would gladly support removal of the post edit function.


    Why have a post preview when you can re-read your post while in the message box?


    Why send a PM when you don't intend to answer the response? :)


    I'm waiting ... .
    7867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594938)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hope no mod ever chooses the name QueensycheFan, because then I will get a PM asking if my posts from several months ago of their songs and lyrics were meant to annoy them today! Heaven forbid that they used to be my favorite band.
    7868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594934)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Why have a post preview when you can re-read your post while in the message box?


    One should have a post preview because it's more elegant to see what the actual result will be, rather than doing so by trial and error, especially where coding's concerned. Quotation marks, at least in my browser's version of Cafe reality, cause the annoying appearance of forward slashes. I would prefer to have seen that up front.

    The stupid slashes began to appear today.
    7869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594932)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guys should see the latest PM I received. LOL!
    7870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594931)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge...Sometime today you passed the 5K mark in posting...Congratulations!

    FAIR TREATMENT FOR ALL SETIzens


    Scary, huh? :)
    7871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594929)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodness, Sarge! We seem to have struck a nerve. (Are you hep, Dugout Dick [Cheney])?

    On a technical note, while disallowing editing, another improvement would be to allow preview and spellchecking, although in the Cafe's defense, I grant this is one of the more literate islands in the otherwise abysmally embarrassing sea which is the average American speaker of English today.


    I too would like post preview. The spell checker built into firefox works well enough for me. If we could get a preview function, so I could check my posts for errors, then I would gladly support removal of the post edit function.


    Why have a post preview when you can re-read your post while in the message box?


    Why send a PM when you don't intend to answer the response? :)
    7872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594916)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Major, please sticky this thread? :)
    7873) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594912)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For the record, Mods cannot edit posts. Only thread titles.

    I know that things are going wrong for me.
    Ya gotta listen to my wooooorrrdsss
    yeeeeaaahhhhhaaaaahhhh.

    You're no different from me.
    You're no different to me.
    7874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594910)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.


    Continued annoying posts require continued modding.


    Want a list of the very few of my posts modded in the last 48 hours?
    7875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How To Kill A Thread? (Message 594909)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If someone wanted to destroy my post or thread all they would need to do is post an extreme image or say something most other people would not care to post.

    I am no prude and really do not care about bad language or lost thoughts but I so love that I have the chance to talk people here..

    One of the threads I recently posted to was killed.

    It was one of those threads that lived on the edge.

    Why the hell do some people push too far?

    Is it because they do not know the boundaries or is it because they simply wanted to kill the thread.



    We Move.









    Don't kill any more of cRunchy's threads!
    He's one of youngest and most innocent posters!
    Just look to the left! ;)
    7876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The GREEN STAR (Message 594907)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    whoa im a cheap seti supporter.




    Booo! Hiss! Boo!

    Cough up your minimum $10 or I'll send over the SETI@HOME hooligans to rough you up. LOL


    Mommy...

    Mommy already gave you your week's allowance. It's no good looking to her. :)



    AHA! Another one!

    And where is YOUR ?
    Hmmmmm?

    The SETI@HOME hooligans have your address, too




    It's on my other profile that doesn't work with Boinc: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8383710;

    Call off your thugs! LOL


    Unable to handle request

    HOME PARTICIPATE ABOUT COMMUNITY YOUR ACCOUNT STATISTICS

    No such user found - please check the ID and try again.
    7877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594906)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you come to the black pudding
    bet you're gonna find some black pudding who lives
    you don't have to worry
    'cuz ya got no black pudding
    people with black pudding are happy to give.

    ( When you see the avatar, is it me or is it It's Me, Again? :) )
    7878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594894)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They can only edit a thread title.

    Pardon me while I maintain a healthy skepticism.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
    7879) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594892)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blaaaackkkk puuuudddding
    raining down
    raining down on meeee.
    7880) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594891)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Many who were auto-modded resigned immediately.
    Others, after a few months.
    Seems it is back to an unknown process of selection or people volunteering ... ?
    7881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594886)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .....to create whatever reality deemed expedient.


    Ahh, there it is. Excessive moderation is precisely that. Just like it is in the mainstream media. An artificial reality rather than allow the conveyance of the actual one.


    One major improvement would be to disallow editing, including editing by the mods. Of course, they could still doctor by deletion, in another similarity to media manipulation, where facts are expertly excised onto the cutting room floor to make up whatever story sells best or curries most favor.


    They can only edit a thread title.
    7882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594885)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning.

    FAIR TREATMENT FOR ALL SETIZENS!!!!


    Are you talking to yourself? ;)
    7883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594883)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    7884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594857)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aww, look, Everyone! The children have come out to play. How quaint, their blissful unawareness that the integrity of the boards might reflect on the integrity of the underlying project.


    So we should "act like adults" (as SO many people often say) and just swallow what we might see as unfair or double standards?


    There is a fundamental problem with a board that has hidden moderatorship. A board with anonymous moderators cannot have integrity. If you're not one of the hidden kiddies with the mod buttons, I have no beef with you.


    They're not hidden.
    Are you receiving messages with no one signing it?
    7885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594855)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At this rate, Esme might be the last person to post. :(
    Wait! That would mean she can win! ;)
    7886) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of Elements (Message 594850)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once again, you are welcome.
    I'll tell you, this one was a little hard to believe.
    Maybe that's because of the original article title?
    7887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594846)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aww, look, Everyone! The children have come out to play. How quaint, their blissful unawareness that the integrity of the boards might reflect on the integrity of the underlying project.


    So we should "act like adults" (as SO many people often say) and just swallow what we might see as unfair or double standards?


    A/C, look more closely at his other posts and changes to the board over the past 30 minutes or so. :)
    7888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594844)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Message boards : Cafe SETI : Current final word
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    Message 422897 - Posted 18 Sep 2006 16:56:16 UTC
    Last modified: 18 Sep 2006 19:31:58 UTC

    I hate posting to this forum as my words are universally met with misaimed rage (towards me or unsuspecting others), but nevertheless...

    With regards to recent events, the bottom line is these forums are a free service on servers controlled by SETI@home, a project supported by the University of California and various funding sources. If we find anything on these forums we deem inappropriate, it may be removed. No debate (public or private) is necessary before removal. Case closed. If you don't like it, we welcome you to have your discussions on one of the almost infinite other forum services elsewhere on the internet. Further violent aggression between users will not be tolerated. Such user accounts may be deleted outright. Note the purposeful use of the word "may" - we don't claim to be 24/7 police force, either.

    We don't need to explain ourselves. We have the right to refuse service to anybody. If you are misbehaving, or simply being a general nuisance, thank you but we no longer want your business. There are hundreds of thousands of other people more deserving of our attention.

    - Matt
    7889) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Request for the folks writing the code for this board (Message 594839)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please allow us a way to hide certain threads from our own personal views: i.e., not even showing up on the list of threads as we the main forum page(s) on an individual basis.
    It would be particularly useful when a mod goes through and is either un-deleting posts or deleting them, without the wisdom of a temporary thread hiding, making the yellow indicator keep popping up.
    Jeremy, think this one is for Rytis?
    7890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594833)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As Nobody would ask, "Is there are bored person in the house?"
    And he'd answer himself with, "Yep!"
    Guess who's home from work, folks?
    7891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Predictor is banning members today. (Message 594832)
    Posted 29 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL, now they're deleting posts about something they themselves have protested. SUPER IRONY!!!
    7892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594663)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice post, MrGray.
    A couple of things ... .
    One, please note the difference between a moderator and an administrator.
    Two, I doubt as much thought was actually put in to a reason for a moving it as you have hypothesized, like whether it was an embarassment to the project by appearing in the Science forum.
    7893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : DAN'S POETRY CORNER (Message 594586)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Way to go, A.I!
    7894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594574)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also good points.
    7895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594561)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First, atop the 1,097 graduating class of NYPD 2007! Way to go, Cheryl!

    I guess. Though somebody didn't get to go to Harvard because Cheryl picked a job that you hardly even need an associates degree for. I wouldn't think she had any trouble at all with the course work.

    I was thinking along similar lines, Rush.
    7896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 594558)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I tried out the formula with these many square roots I got the result: "x = y"
    hmm... Don't know where the mistake was...


    If you set the two expressions equal, yes, you will get x = y.
    Going in a forward direction, if x = y, then sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2)=sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+x^2)=2*sqrt(1+x^2)=sqrt(4(1+x^2))=
    sqrt(4+4x^2)=sqrt(4+(2x)^2)=sqrt(4+(x+x)^2)=sqrt(4+(x+y)^2). (The x = y assumption is used in the first and last equalities.)
    7897) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594544)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I once saw a boredom formation in the sky...It made me sleepy.


    3. If you begin to feel sleepy read threads on the SETI cafe.


    Did someone say redheads on SETI Cafe?
    7898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594542)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I once saw a boredom formation in the sky...It made me sleepy.

    Time to hand Dan some Red Bull/Full Throttle, Amp'd ... something like that. :)
    7899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Insulting Behaviour (Message 594536)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm insulted that we haven't made this a discussion about ...
    FREE AVATARS!!!
    :)

    Sorry, but free association is guaranteed by the Constitution.

    My free association don't cost a thing.

    Well, it's a harder version than the Beatles' "Money Can't Buy You Love", I'll give you that. LOL

    My free ass0ciations may have earned me a free belated birthday dinner next week. ;)

    That sounds loverly! Make sure your ass0ciations bring a redhead with them.

    Nope, if it works out, it'll be a blonde.
    7900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594529)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't Boredom Formulators create boredom?

    Indeed. :)


    Then count me in as I'm mostly bored all the time and can help others to get that way also. :)


    So you want to formulate?
    7901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594514)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't Boredom Formulators create boredom?

    Indeed. :)
    7902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594513)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, there is some talent.
    Now, did they get it from UFOs?


    Yes, they are all part of a grand UFO experiment.

    Want an avatar, A/C? It's free! :)


    Sure!


    Just right click on mine or Dan's, download it, then upload it to your avatar. :)
    Now, how is American Idol part of the UFO experiment? (We do not want to hijack MrGray's thread.)
    7903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594491)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe we need the Boredom Formulator List.
    I think this is a job for n0body! :)
    7904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594490)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    lol! Aren't we supposed to contact the boredom formulators about our boredome issues?

    Oh, crap! You might be right!!! LOL.
    7905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Information Regarding Boredom Formation (Message 594488)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We can alleviate your boredom.
    Tell us about your boredom.
    We'll suggest solutions.
    The only cost for your psychotherapy will be the free avatars. :)
    7906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Insulting Behaviour (Message 594487)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm insulted that we haven't made this a discussion about ...
    FREE AVATARS!!!
    :)

    Sorry, but free association is guaranteed by the Constitution.

    My free association don't cost a thing.

    Well, it's a harder version than the Beatles' "Money Can't Buy You Love", I'll give you that. LOL

    My free ass0ciations may have earned me a free belated birthday dinner next week. ;)
    7907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594486)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    American Idol may be the apex of lameness but the talent is still there.


    I disagree with the second part


    No, there is some talent.
    Now, did they get it from UFOs?
    Want an avatar, A/C? It's free! :)
    7908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 594483)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My avatar is free...free for you and me!

    America, land of the free
    we love you Berkeley
    oh, yes, we do
    and you love us too.
    7909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594482)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Orgil, can I interest you in a free avatar, in support of mis-movements? :)
    7910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Insulting Behaviour (Message 594480)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm insulted that we haven't made this a discussion about ...
    FREE AVATARS!!!
    :)

    Sorry, but free association is guaranteed by the Constitution.

    My free association don't cost a thing.
    7911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Insulting Behaviour (Message 594454)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm insulted that we haven't made this a discussion about ...
    FREE AVATARS!!!
    :)
    7912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 38 - Grolsch Het Kanon, Black Beer & Theakstons all week end (Message 594453)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    THE GAS GIANT IS THE RECENT COMPETITION THREAD WINNER, so congratulations

    Come out cleanly and do not take too many baths or showers, it will weaken you!


    FREE AVATARS!!!
    Want one, Gas Giant? :)
    7913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Did you know? Part II (Message 594451)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whatever's been said here, I am willing to bet I did not kow most of it! :)
    7914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 594450)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have you ever had once of those months where there's heavy posting at the end, but by the end of the week, the posting's slowed down?
    FREE AVATARS can help with your monthly problems!
    FREE AVATARS can help you get through your week. ;)
    7915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 594446)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are your posts missing an avatar? If so, check out some of the cool avatars to your left. Feel free to borrow. They're free!
    7916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Horrible Crash (Message 594305)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats horrible. But didnt I read that the founder of mothers against drunk drivers got popped for a 502 ?

    I didn't hear that. Who are you talking about?

    The woman who had her kid killed by a drunked driver. Who started madd. Dunno her name

    I think the question was surrounding the phrase "Popped for a 502." ???


    I believe a 502 is a " Driving While Under The Influence "


    That was my guess, but then it's saying the MADD founder was DUI (or DWI).
    7917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594299)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @ Beets...
    I offered you a branch and you proceeded to kick it in the dirt... every one here sees that...
    If you want a peace, it's on you...
    ( oh... and while it might stroke your ego somewhat to refer to me as a troll, participants that have been around since the classic days know you're fudging it...)

    Answer my questions.
    7918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594286)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm late to the discussion.
    "Swipage of others' content?"
    Are you referring to the posting of cartoons?
    How do this, or does this not, apply to posting news articles from elsewhere?
    If it is not something someone needs to sign up for and not password protected, how do you defend it being called swiping?
    7919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 594283)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WTH?!?
    Way to twist yet another meaning.
    MrGray, sorry that my post, which followed one in here, led to this.
    7920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 594253)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    UFO's? They all seem to be in the Science forum.

    ;)

    Why is Jeffrey becoming funnier each day?
    7921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594248)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Chip, let me say that, while Beets has not been happy with some things I have said recently (or, more often, how I have said them) and he has bluntly told me so when he thinks necessary, I truly believe he has changed. He is very nearly a voice of level-headedness in here these days. (I know he flew off the handle on some things in the past.) Now, if I can say that, you might want to give it some thought and try to bury a hatchet with him.
    7922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594244)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Visit The Newest Version of the Myths, Legends and Conspiracies Thread!
    7923) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594240)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, I've created mirror threads, too, and pissed off some people in doing so. More often than not, it's part of my twisted humor. Rarely is it to truly annoy or upset someone.

    Yeah, but that's you. This guy we're talking about is a different kettle of fish altogether. You had to be there, or you wouldn't even say that.

    Now move along! No loitering! Nothing to see here! LOL


    Good thing there is nothing to see since we don't have any damn windows yet. LOL

    You've got to stop lounging in the basement, Knightmare! All the windows and all the good-looking waitresses are on the main floor. Okay, so there's no bullet-proof glass yet, but since there's been requests for it, I'm working on it. :)


    You mean this is the BASEMENT!!!??

    I was wondering why the bouncer insisted I go down the stairs! Maybe it's the robes and sythe....


    Keep that scythe away from me, big boy! :)
    7924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 594232)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kenzie...

    Many thanks for taking a well intentioned comment and running with the idea.

    The effort involved in taking all those posts and pm's and gathering the information, and then sorting it out, is very much appreciated. :-)


    Ditto.
    7925) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Neutron Stars Spew Like Black Holes (Message 594231)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was this double post always here since soon after the origination of the thread?!?
    7926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 594228)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL to these last two posts. :)
    7927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 594226)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because one of the first things that happens is that the square is done, all values from that point on are positive and it makes no difference if the numbers started negative or not. If one is positive and one is negative, the difference will be much larger than if both are positive or both are negative.

    sqrt(1 +x^2) + sqrt(1 + y ^2) >= sqrt(4 + (x + y) ^2)
    (1 + x^2) + 2*(sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2)) + (1 + y^2) >= 4 + (x + y)^2
    1 + x^2 + 2*(sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2)) + 1 + y^2 >= 4 + x^2 + 2xy + y^2
    2*(sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2)) >= 2 + 2xy
    sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2) >= 1 + xy
    sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2)*sqrt(1+x^2)*sqrt(1+y^2) >= (1 + xy)^2
    (1+x^2)*(1+y^2) >= 1 + 2xy +xy^2
    1 + x^2 + y^2 + x^2y^2 >= 1 + 2xy + xy^2
    x^2 + y^2 + xy^2 >= 2xy + xy^2
    x^2 + y^2 >= 2xy // this does not seem right, but I am missing where I went wrong. Too tired - going to bed now.


    Of course, there are 2 square roots for any positive number. If the negative square root is used instead of the positive square root, then the oposite result occurs from the positive square root.


    I'm not seeing any errors here.

    In x^2 + y^2 >= 2xy, what if you re-write it as x^2 - 2xy + y^2 >= 0?

    As for two square roots, I've found a common misconception coming up when I teaching earlier algebra to college students.

    When one solves something like x^2 = 25, we know x = + 25 because we can also solve it by factoring x^2 - 25 = 0 with the difference of two squares.

    But, when a square root is already present in an expression, and you are not taking the square root of both sides, then just the principal (or positive) square root is involved. + should not even come into play.

    On the other hand, if a >= b, can we be sure a^2 >= b^2? This is a minor, but sticky, point!

    Anyway, if you again look at your last line and then what I transformed it into, x^2 - 2xy + y^2 >= 0 ... .

    If you finish it, check out again how this might or might not connect to the diagrams I provided. I think you mentioned geometric transformations? (Pssst! Reflections!)
    7928) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of Elements (Message 594218)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge:

    Can you just link us to your data?


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070625/sc_space/starshaveearthlikeweather;_ylt=Aob9uMJNet5yhJFZnB7_9dME1vAI
    7929) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Neutron Stars Spew Like Black Holes (Message 594212)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Incredible interesting!

    Thanks, Sargeâ„¢.


    You're welcome. :)
    7930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 594211)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't think of that one.

    Good thinking.


    Sarge: I appreciate art in all forms. American Idol may be the apex of lameness but the talent is still there. I have many singers in my family, including myself.


    If you want to discuss singing more, a PM is fine. I don't want to de-rail your thread topic. :)
    7931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594208)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, I've created mirror threads, too, and pissed off some people in doing so. More often than not, it's part of my twisted humor. Rarely is it to truly annoy or upset someone.
    7932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594197)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A PM? Not if it's about wazzisname. Otherwise, okay.

    Since I do not know for sure who you mean, sorry, but it may be. Put it this way: I was informed that the question I asked could be perceived as flaming you, yet the person who told me this knows it went on LONG before I ever showed up (or became a particularly active poster). So, just so you know, you were not flamed and in this case someone was being over-protective and so my entire point got lost simply because of the question on the first line. Which, unfortunately, also goes more towards proving my point. :(
    7933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 594191)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Damn Sarge ! What exactly did you DO in the military ?

    The nickname Sarge, in my case, has nothing to do with military service.
    7934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Horrible Crash (Message 594189)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats horrible. But didnt I read that the founder of mothers against drunk drivers got popped for a 502 ?

    I didn't hear that. Who are you talking about?

    The woman who had her kid killed by a drunked driver. Who started madd. Dunno her name

    I think the question was surrounding the phrase "Popped for a 502." ???
    7935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594188)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge is a blast!



    (I liked that Mars article, btw. Keep up the good content!)




    But you already modded it, you secret, provoked mod! ;)

    Did not!

    I didn't even red-x it, I thought it was a good article.

    You might want to try another thread title for it, though. Something that's a little more on-topic to the article. ;)


    It's called humor. ;)
    May I send you a PM?
    7936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies (10) (Message 594181)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Homer voice on]Woo hoo![/Homer voice off]
    7937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Horrible Crash (Message 594174)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crashes like this are always a tragedy. Does the state have mandatory drivers education?

    Yes, it's NY State. I assume Blurf is talking about something that happened in the Rochester area.
    7938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 594170)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Based on the above, it still makes a difference what X and Y are. If x = y, then it can be proven that they are the same. If X != y, then I believe, but have by no means proved that the first will be larger.

    If x = y, then assume that the two sides are equal and start doing the same transforms to each side (or transforms to a single side that do not change the value of that side). Mathematical proof time in other words.

    2*sqrt(1+x^2) = sqrt(4+(2*x)^2)
    sqrt(1+x^2) = sqrt(4+(2*x)^2)/2
    1+x^2 = (4 + (2*x)^2)/4
    1+x^2 = (4 + 4*(x^2))/4
    1+x^2 = 1 + x^2
    x^2 = x^2
    x = x


    And then re-written backwards for the nitpickers to proceed from the assumption x = y to the conclusions sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2)=sqrt(4+(x+y)^2). Anyway ... .
    Alright! Now we're getting somewhere!
    In this and something you posted before, if x = y, then in the diagrams I provided, the hypotenuses of the two small right triangles are going to be collinear. So, yes, x and y should be different when considering the diagrams.
    How would you interpret the diagrams if x or y (inclusive or) is negative?

    Re-quoting:

    If x = y, then it can be proven that they are the same. If X != y, then I believe, but have by no means proved that the first will be larger.


    Is there a way to put this all together so that you can make one statement for all (x,y) pairs?
    7939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 594144)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I would like everyone to know I have been working for nearly 12 hours today, on my birthday. So, to the person who thought I was drunk on my birthday before it was even noon, I say to you, "sir": YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE TALKING TO.
    To the rest: thank you for your birthday wishes to me.
    7940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's the count? (Message 594124)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe only five were available at the time. On any given day, less than half participate. Some, I have never seen participate. Some go on trips or have other obligations. The system is not perfect, but at least it's not the Electoral College. (That was a joke.)

    Thank you for addressing this, Qui-Gon. Many of us view this as a problem. Those who never participate might either be asked to only moderate in the other forums, if possible, or flat out replaced with people who can, even in their busy lives, generally participate in the discussions and votes. Please, consider this seriously, discuss it on the mod list and with Eric K. We have actually asked for more mods before and in private discussions. If you think about it, how can that be the ranting of a spoiled little child who simply cannot stand any moderation of one's self at all?
    7941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's the count? (Message 594066)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gavin, I'm glad Qui-Gon is discussing this with you.
    Let me answer one thing, and he can either correct me or corroborate me.
    If needed, you can theoretically take a complaint further, to an administrator. The problem is, they're busy with their research. You and I are in similar situations, so we can understand.
    In any case, it is quite likely an e-mail you send to admin would either never be seen or they would not be able to deal with it.
    There was once or twice an idea about having a super-moderator boss. I have no idea whether that is appropriate now.
    7942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 594061)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd better say happy birthday while we both can!!!


    My sentiments exactly.

    Happy Birthday Sarge!!!!


    In danger of being banned, Labbie? :)


    You just never know when I'll unlease the evil....



    Release the good!
    Popeye's is the shiznitz! ;)
    7943) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 594058)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I've got a mod position at Predictor to sell you. ;)


    That position would last about an hour. David wouldn't like me too much.


    LOL!
    7944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's the count? (Message 594029)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dang, Gavin. We've been trying to discuss that for at least a month! If you haven't experienced it, count your lucky stars and perhaps you should consider not even risking having that very post modded for daring to ask the questions.


    I'm well aware of that. However, I thought a somewhat different approach might yield some results.

    If you rather we can arrange that have it removed.

    EDIT: And this one and any other posts of mine that you want removed :)


    Gavin, various methods have been tried, meeting with two kinds of responses. (A hasty estimation on my part.)
    I have no desire for your post to be removed. Not at all.
    7945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594018)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge is a blast!



    (I liked that Mars article, btw. Keep up the good content!)




    But you already modded it, you secret, provoked mod! ;)
    7946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's the count? (Message 594014)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dang, Gavin. We've been trying to discuss that for at least a month! If you haven't experienced it, count your lucky stars and perhaps you should consider not even risking having that very post modded for daring to ask the questions.
    7947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 594012)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets rocks!
    7948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 594009)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    7949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 594008)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It needs to be connected to the problem "Determine which is 'larger': sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2) or sqrt(4+(x+y)^2)."
    You might also want to consider the case of x = y and whether the diagram(s) tell you anything in that case.

    I think tht it depends on what X and Y are.

    If X and Y are both 0, then both are the same 1 + 1 = sqrt(4).
    If X= 1 and Y = -1, then 2 * sqrt(2) > 2.
    If X = 10 and Y = 1, then sqrt(101) + sqrt(2) < sqrt(125).


    OK.
    On the first part, what about if x = y, rather than making them specifically 0?
    On the third part, double-check it. Estimations will be difficult on some of these, as they'll be very close. If using a calculator, make sure it goes a fair number of decimal places.
    7950) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Huge Dust Storm Breaks Out on Mars (Message 594003)
    Posted 28 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Huge Dust Storm Breaks Out on Mars



    NASA's Hubble Space Telescope took this picture of Mars 11 hours before the planet made its closest approach to Earth on Aug. 26, 2003. If you have planetary vision, want to be on the cutting edge and don't get bored easily, the European Space Agency may be looking for you. It is looking for 12 volunteers for a simulated mission to Mars that will last up to 520 days in 'extreme isolation and confinement.' Despite the rigorous conditions, more than 2,000 applications have been received in two days, project manager Jennifer Ngo-Anh said Thursday, June 21, 2007. (AP Photo/NASA)

    Dave Mosher
    Staff Writer
    SPACE.com Wed Jun 27, 2:45 PM ET

    Updated at 1:40 p.m. ET

    A major dust storm has developed on the red planet, blocking sunlight and prompting Mars mission managers to keep a close eye on it, SPACE.com has learned.

    It is not known how large the storm might grow, but already it is thousands of miles across. If it balloons, as dust storms have done in the past, it could hamper operations of NASA's Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity.

    For now, officials don't think the storm will threaten rover operations, however. In fact, the windy conditions on the planet have blown off large amounts of dust from the rovers' solar arrays, giving them more power. The power boost may lend a helping hand to the Opportunity rover, should officials decide to send it into Victoria Crater.

    "We've been watching this storm for about six days now," said Steven Squyres of Cornell University, who is the lead scientist of the Mars Exploration Rover Project. "It's not unheard of for Martian dust storms to cover half the planet, and this one is now a regional storm."

    Squyres wasn't certain of the storm's exact size, but said it appears to be thousands of miles in diameter and "ain't no little hurricane." In fact, "it's one of the most sunlight-blocking storms we've seen on Mars," he said.

    According to reports from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which Squyres deemed as Mars' weather satellite, the storm has grown in size and is lifting up dust about 560 miles (900 KM) east of Opportunity, which is presently at Meridiani Planum. "The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter team is watching this closely, because we worry about dust in the atmosphere obscuring the sunlight," Squyres said.

    Experienced amateur astronomers have spotted the storm with large telescopes. Paul Maxson of Phoenix, Arizona, was one of the first to image the storm.

    Dust storms on Mars occur regularly, but seldom do they grow beyond regional proportions. A storm in 2001, however, engulfed the entire planet in red dust.

    "If the storm continues to get worse, it could cut into our activities," Squyres said. One of those activities, should the team decide it's not too risky, could be the descent of Opportunity into the massive Victoria Crater. A press conference is planned for Thursday to discuss the decision.

    "The upshot of all this wind is that the arrays are so clean that the dust is insignificant right now," he said. "But this is Mars, and we can't predict the weather-we can only to react to it."

    Diana Blaney, the deputy project manager for the Mars exploration rovers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, said dust levels can significantly impact the rovers' missions. "When big dust storms like this come along, they decrease the energy the rovers can work with," Blaney said.

    JPL spokesperson Guy Webster said Mars mission managers will be monitoring the storm's progress and how it may affect the planned descent into the crater. "They've really been paying attention to the storm and been getting regular reports of its progress," Webster said.
    7951) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 593948)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm a Mormon, and I'm active.

    Well now that explains your peculiar behavior... ;)


    LMAO!!


    Wanna be a SETIish Mormom, too?


    I was laughing at Jeffrey's comment, not at you for being a Mormon.

    So, what would I have to do to become a SETIish Mormon? I'm not going to Marry several woman, I can barely handle one at a time. and the Osmonds give me the creeps.

    Never mind. I'll stick to my current religion, "The Church of Foamy". :)


    I've got a mod position at Predictor to sell you. ;)
    7952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 593933)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Of the 60 people who participated, 51 guys, 9 gals.
    BIG surprise...
    a large majority are from the USA
    No surprise...
    And 7 who didn’t reveal that information.
    Babies!
    Average age: 42.8
    No surprise...

    ;)


    Actually Jeff, I was a little surprised at 9 women. Though that number seems to be dropping and will again very soon :(

    The average age was also a surprise to me. Going in, and depending on how I felt at the moment, I'd have pegged the average at about 14.


    It'll be down to 8 when I leave. ;)
    7953) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 593919)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm a Mormon, and I'm active.

    Well now that explains your peculiar behavior... ;)


    LMAO!!


    Wanna be a SETIish Mormom, too?
    7954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 593829)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    kenzie rocks!
    People who did not want to participate could have silently ignored the thread. ( Gee, where have we heard THAT advice before? ;) ) They don't need to tell kenzie "None of your business."
    7955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 593815)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like you have another charming mod after your heart, kenzie. ;)
    7956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 593797)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Opps. Wrong thread for me. And when did Sarge get so damn smart ?

    Oops, guess you haven't been paying attention.

    You are just playing with them arn't you. Got the teachers edition of the text ?

    So far as we know, I created the problem, though it was inspired by someone else's work.
    7957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 593783)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Opps. Wrong thread for me. And when did Sarge get so damn smart ?

    Oops, guess you haven't been paying attention.
    7958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You got your answer Nobody (Message 593754)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how does it feel? ;)


    ;O my 'actual' reference was . . . "wonderin' what the thread felt like . . ."

    as in - could a thread have thoughts, emotions . . . feelings (within itself)

    sniCkr'n



    Yeah, that was a pretty scary thought! You should have never 0p3n3d that thr3aD, mi' fr13nD!
    7959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593739)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This one looks nice. :)

    More curls would be nice, though.
    7960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593735)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hmmm. Good start. Sort of a 50's feel, though. And, with the coloring of the overall pic, the red just isn't as vibrant as it could be. :)

    Do you like this one better?





    Hmmm. Not sure.
    Gimme a few minutes to see if I can find an example of what I like.
    Also doing work.
    7961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593732)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm...Now where were we?...I seem to have passed out...and can't remember what i was going to say.

    'Cuz you stole my birthday beer and drank too much of it? ;)

    So it's your fault!...It's your birthday!


    That's right! Who authorized this birthday, anyway?


    My Mama.
    And you cannot send her any complaints on the birth moderation mailing list, because she passed away in mid-March.
    And Dad just won't listen. :)
    7962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593730)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon, Beets. :-)

    We definitely need to install some windows. It was rather dark in here last night. Besides, it'll save on the electric bill. Perhaps if we put windows in this joint, we can stop Global Warming!


    Wassssssuuuuzzzzzaaaaaapppp, Knightmare? :)


    The Birthday Boy is here!

    Greets Sarge! And Happy Birthday!!!!


    Any plans for this special day? How are you going to spend it?


    Bring on the redheads!!! :)


    Well, alright, seeing that it's your birthday and all. You better make your own copy quick though, ...just in case.







    Hmmm. Good start. Sort of a 50's feel, though. And, with the coloring of the overall pic, the red just isn't as vibrant as it could be. :)
    7963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593729)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm...Now where were we?...I seem to have passed out...and can't remember what i was going to say.

    'Cuz you stole my birthday beer and drank too much of it? ;)

    So it's your fault!...It's your birthday!

    Blame Sarge. ;)
    7964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 593724)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Alright, listen up youze guys.

    I warned yaz what wuz gonna happen if ya don’ repliez:



    Well, yuz kin also adds the kittie to da list



    Yuz got a 1 hour an 30 minits before BANG! BANG!

    note to msattler: no, I’m not really going to shoot the kitty. The duck, however…


    The duck is dead. Long live the duck.
    7965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593722)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm...Now where were we?...I seem to have passed out...and can't remember what i was going to say.

    'Cuz you stole my birthday beer and drank too much of it? ;)
    7966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593721)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon, Beets. :-)

    We definitely need to install some windows. It was rather dark in here last night. Besides, it'll save on the electric bill. Perhaps if we put windows in this joint, we can stop Global Warming!


    Wassssssuuuuzzzzzaaaaaapppp, Knightmare? :)


    The Birthday Boy is here!

    Greets Sarge! And Happy Birthday!!!!


    Any plans for this special day? How are you going to spend it?


    Bring on the redheads!!! :)
    7967) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593713)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I remember when I was doing my Junior Practicum, a preparation for student teaching. It was at a Catholic middle school. My cooperating teacher was not a nun. I got to see pictures of her daughter, my age, a beautiful redhead. I never said anything. But, one day at lunch, some of the nuns said to my cooperating teacher, "Liz, you should introduce your daughter to Bill."
    Unfortunately, that never happened.
    About 2 years later, while working on my Master's degree, one of my apartment mates said, "Mrs. ******** says hello." I asked him how he knew my cooperating teacher from the Junior Practicum. He told me her daughter and he had gone to the same college for undergraduate and that she was now at the same university also working on a Master's degree.
    Still, I never did meet her. But, Brian pointed her out once while we were in a car, just heading out for the April 1992 Metallica concert. She looked as good in person as in the pictures, at least from a distance. ;)
    7968) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of Elements (Message 593703)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Methinks someone wants to hide findings and theories about the formation of elements within stars, Greg.


    It was a glitch in the DB, happened in NC too.



    STOP COVERING UP THE CONSPIRACY!!!









    LOL! Joke.
    7969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 593702)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon, Beets. :-)

    We definitely need to install some windows. It was rather dark in here last night. Besides, it'll save on the electric bill. Perhaps if we put windows in this joint, we can stop Global Warming!


    Wassssssuuuuzzzzzaaaaaapppp, Knightmare? :)
    7970) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of Elements (Message 593696)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Methinks someone wants to hide findings and theories about the formation of elements within stars, Greg.
    7971) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Origin of Elements (Message 593691)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, isn't this special?!?

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    7972) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Neutron Stars Spew Like Black Holes (Message 593686)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stars Have Earth-Like Weather

    Charles Q. Choi
    Special to LiveScience
    SPACE.com Mon Jun 25, 12:15 PM ET

    The skies of stars might experience weather like that on planets, researchers now find.

    The drifting clouds scientists have seen are wispy, "just like cirrus clouds on Earth"-except these are made of mercury, explained astrophysicist Oleg Kochukhov at Uppsala University in Sweden.

    Investigating these metal clouds might shed light on how elements form inside stars.

    Kochukhov and his colleagues spent seven years peering at alpha Andromedae, the brightest star in the Andromeda constellation. The bluish-white star lies about 100 light-years from Earth and is more than twice as hot as the Sun and roughly three times its mass and diameter.

    Stars can develop spots on their surfaces, which are largely thought due to magnetic fields. These are how sunspots on the Sun are created, for instance. However, alpha Andromedae is not magnetic, so the spots Kochukhov and his colleagues discovered on it five years ago were an enigma.

    Now the researchers find these spots are clouds in that form and disperse in alpha Andromedae's skies, following dynamics similar to weather patterns on planets, findings detailed online June 24 in the journal Nature Physics.

    Such weather could be seen on stars that, like alpha Andromedae, are hot and massive. They also have to spin relatively slowly-alpha Andromedae completely rotates about once every 60 hours-as spinning too fast might destroy any clouds. Kochukhov noted a half-dozen or so other candidates have recently been seen already, including the star AR Aurigae, which might have clouds of strontium, yttrium and platinum as well.

    Mystery process

    What makes these metal clouds form remains uncertain. Kochukhov suggested random disturbances in alpha Andromedae's atmosphere could generate clouds, "a process similar to what is quite often seen in the atmosphere of our own planet," or perhaps the gravitational pull of alpha Andromedae's companion star helps perturb its sky.

    The discovery of weather on stars could help solve a mystery concerning why startling discrepancies were seen in the levels of mercury and other heavy elements in stars like alpha Andromedae.

    "These are all the same type of star, so you'd expect them all to have roughly the same abundances of mercury, but they could vary by a factor of 100 from one star to the next," explained George Preston, astronomer emeritus at the Carnegie Observatories, who did not participate in this study. "Now it turns out this variation could be due to weather. You might see different amounts of mercury at different times."

    Alpha Andromedae and similar stars "are critical to understanding the origin of elements," Kochukhov said, as heavy elements are concentrated in them that are too faint to detect in sun-like stars. Stellar weather could shed light on how elements mix around in these stars, he added.
    7973) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Neutron Stars Spew Like Black Holes (Message 593679)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Neutron Stars Spew Like Black Holes

    SPACE.com Staff

    SPACE.com 49 minutes ago

    Black holes are not the only objects in the universe that spew powerful jets from their poles. Dead, smoldering stars can emit them, too, and the jets they create rival and might even surpass those fired by black holes, scientists find.

    The discovery, to be detailed in an upcoming issue of The Astrophysical Journal Letters, shows that the unusual properties of black holes-like the presence of an event horizon and the lack of an actual surface-are not required for jets to form.

    "Gravity appears to be the key to creating these jets, not some trick of the event horizon," said study leader Sebastian Heinz of the University of Wisconsin at Madison.

    Using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, scientists spotted the jet 20,000 light-years from Earth in Circinus X-1, a system where a spinning stellar corpse known as a neutron star is orbiting a normal star several times the mass of the sun. A neutron star forms when the material left over from a supernova explosion collapses into a dense core.

    Many jets have been found near black holes, but the Circinus X-1 jet is the first extended X-ray jet associated with a neutron star.

    Heinz and his colleagues estimate that a surprisingly high percentage of the energy created by material falling onto the neutron star is used to power the jet.

    "In terms of energy efficiency across the universe, this result shows that neutron stars are near the top of the list. This jet is almost as efficient as one from a black hole," said study team member Norbert Schulz of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    The Chandra findings also help clear up a mystery about how diffuse lobes of radio-emitting gas around Circinus X-1 are created. The researchers found the X-ray jets of high-energy particles spewed by the system's neutron star are powerful enough to maintain the lobes.

    "We've seen enormous radio clouds around supermassive black holes at the centers of galaxies," Heinz said. "What's unusual here is that this pocket-sized version, relatively speaking, is being powered by a neutron star, not a black hole."

    Heinz and his team spotted two extended features shaped like a "V" in the Chandra observations of Circinus X-1 that they speculate could represent the outer walls of a wide jet. Another possibility is that the features represent two separate, narrow jets fired at different times as the neutron star wobbles to and fro in space like a spinning top.

    If this second scenario is correct, Circinus X-1 would have one of the longest, narrowest jets found to date, surpassing even those discovered around black holes.
    7974) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Crater Could Solve 1908 Tunguska Meteor Mystery (Message 593658)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Originally, because no impact crater was obvious, it was assumed the meteor had air burst to cause the devastation!

    Yes, I'd heard that.
    7975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient penguins waddled, swam in warm locales (Message 593649)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ancient penguins waddled, swam in warm locales

    By Will Dunham Mon Jun 25, 8:55 PM ET



    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Penguins were waddling and swimming in warm locales tens of millions of years earlier than previously thought, according to scientists who described on Monday fossils of two previously unknown types found in Peru.

    One of the two, named Icadyptes salasi, lived about 36 million years ago, possessed a long, spear-like beak, and stood 5 feet tall.

    "This one had a beak you had to reckon with," North Carolina State University paleontologist Julia Clarke, who led the research, said in a telephone interview.

    It was bigger than any penguin alive today and the third-largest penguin known to have lived, Clarke said.

    The earliest known fossil of these aquatic flightless birds, found in New Zealand, dates to about 61 million years ago, not long after the extinction of the dinosaurs and many other life forms 65 million years ago.

    The largest penguin around today is the Emperor Penguin, which stands almost 4 feet tall.

    The second newly discovered species was smaller and slightly older than Icadyptes.

    Perudyptes devriesi lived about 42 million years ago and was about the size of today's King Penguin, about 2-1/2 to 3 feet tall. It is thought to represent an early part of penguin evolutionary history.

    Both of these ancient penguins lived on Peru's southern coast and were found relatively close to one another in a coastal Peruvian desert in 2005. Penguins still live on Peru's coast.

    These remains are among the most complete ever found of extinct penguins and throw into doubt existing notions about the timing and pattern of penguin evolution and expansion.

    Many scientists had believed that penguins did not leave cold-weather regions like Antarctica and New Zealand for warmer, more equatorial regions until perhaps 4 million to 8 million years ago, but these two newly discovered species indicate this took place tens of millions of years earlier.

    Penguins, denizens of the Southern Hemisphere, populate cold climates such as Antarctica, but also inhabit warmer regions closer to the Equator like the Galapagos Islands.

    They are beautifully adapted to life in the ocean, with wings that have evolved into flippers, allowing them to swim gracefully through the water, catching fish, squid and other food.

    The research, which also included scientists from Peru and Argentina, was published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
    7976) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Crater Could Solve 1908 Tunguska Meteor Mystery (Message 593648)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crater Could Solve 1908 Tunguska Meteor Mystery

    Dave Mosher
    Staff Writer
    SPACE.com Tue Jun 26, 6:46 AM ET

    In late June of 1908, a fireball exploded above the remote Russian forests of Tunguska, Siberia, flattening more than 800 square miles of trees. Researchers think a meteor was responsible for the devastation, but neither its fragments nor any impact craters have been discovered.

    Astronomers have been left to guess whether the object was an asteroid or a comet, and figuring out what it was would allow better modeling of potential future calamities.

    Italian researchers now think they've found a smoking gun: The 164-foot-deep Lake Cheko, located just 5 miles northwest of the epicenter of destruction.

    "When we looked at the bottom of the lake, we measured seismic waves reflecting off of something," said Giuseppe Longo, a physicist at the University of Bologna in Italy and co-author of the study. "Nobody has found this before. We can only explain that and the shape of the lake as a low-velocity impact crater."

    Should the team turn up conclusive evidence of an asteroid or comet on a later expedition, when they obtain a deeper core sample beneath the lake, remaining mysteries surrounding the Tunguska event may be solved.

    The findings are detailed in this month's online version of the journal Terra Nova.

    Submerged evidence

    During a 1999 expedition, Longo's team didn't plan to investigate Lake Cheko as an impact crater, but rather to look for meteoroid dust in its submerged sediments. While sonar-scanning the lake's topography, they were struck by its cone-like features.

    "Expeditions in the 1960s concluded the lake was not an impact crater, but their technologies were limited," Longo said. With the advent of better sonar and computer technologies, he explained, the lake took shape.

    Going a step further, Longo's team dove to the bottom and took 6-foot core samples, revealing fresh mud-like sediment on top of "chaotic deposits" beneath. Still, Longo explained the samples are inconclusive of a meteorite impact.

    "To really find out if this is an impact crater," Long said, "we need a core sample 10 meters (33 feet) into the bottom" in order to investigate a spot where the team detected a "reflecting" anomaly with their seismic instruments. They think this could be where the ground was compacted by an impact or where part of the meteorite itself lays: The object, if found, could be more than 30 feet in diameter and weigh almost 1,700 tons-the weight of about 42 fully-loaded semi-trailers.

    Caution for now

    From a UFO crash to a wandering black hole, wild (and wildly unsupported) explanations for the Tunguska event have been proposed. Alan Harris, a planetary scientist at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado, said the proposal by Longo's team isn't one of them.

    "I was impressed by their work and I don't think it's something you can wave off," said Harris, who was not involved in the research.

    Longo and his team "are among the recognized authorities on Tunguska" in the world, Harris told SPACE.com. "It would be thrilling to dig up chunks of the meteor body, if they can manage to. It would lay the question to rest whether or not Tunguska was a comet or asteroid."

    Some researchers, however, are less confident in the team's conclusions.

    "We know from the entry physics that the largest and most energetic objects penetrate deepest," said David Morrison, an astronomer with NASA's Ames Research Center. That only a fragment of the main explosion reached the ground and made a relatively small crater, without creating a larger main crater, seems contradictory to Morrison.

    Harris agreed that physics could work against Longo's explanation, but did note that similar events-with impact craters-have been documented all over the world.

    "In 1947, the Russian Sikhote-Alin meteorite created 100 small craters. Some were 20 meters (66 feet) across," Harris said. A site in Poland also exists, he explained, where a large meteor exploded and created a series of small lakes. "If the fragment was traveling slowly enough, there's actually a good chance (Longo's team) will unearth some meteorite material," Harris said.

    Longo's team plans to return to Lake Cheko next summer, close to the 100th anniversary of the Tunguska Event. "This is important work because we can make better conclusions about how cosmic bodies impact the Earth, and what they're made of," Longo said. "And it could help us find ways to protect our planet from future impacts of this kind."
    7977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 593643)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still looking for someone to tackle the most recent problem referred to. CR, wanna take a crack at it? :)
    7978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 593642)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread has received a lot of views, but few suggestions regarding those scientists we'd like to honor.

    How about today we dedicate the thread to the team of scientists at Berkeley?
    7979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What's the count? (Message 593621)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How many have been banned so far?
    Also, post here if you'd like to be banned. ;)
    7980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593620)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then I had better get in quickly and wish you a happy birthday.

    No, not you, too, Sister. You're risking a ban?
    You know, "they" probably didn't like how you talked about the Church is having to learn to become open, to expose corruption and so on. It might have hit too close to home. :)
    7981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593618)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd better say happy birthday while we both can!!!


    My sentiments exactly.

    Happy Birthday Sarge!!!!


    In danger of being banned, Labbie? :)
    7982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 593609)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I envisioned ML1 as Simon Cowell...

    Phah! Really?

    Never been called that name before!

    ... a symbiant relationship...

    Don't tell my girlfriend!


    Keep searchin',
    Martin


    Who's Simon Cowell? (Joke!) I hoped SETIzens were above watching that drivel.
    7983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 593429)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am I.
    7984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I think someone will be up all night (Message 593424)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Looks better than last year's, but ... you might want to delete that from the post. ;)


    Good grief, wait till you see what I have planned for tomorrow...


    Rut roh!
    7985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I think someone will be up all night (Message 593419)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, that was last year. LOL.
    I have no intentions of staying up all night tonight.


    [Image link]

    Are you sure... ;)


    Looks better than last year's, but ... you might want to delete that from the post. ;)
    7986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Definitions of flaming and baiting (Message 593414)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Spell it out. Because it seems a vocal but powerful few have quite a different conception of it from the rest of the community.
    7987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 593410)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Didn't think I'd do it did ya... ;)


    Ha ha ha!

    Gotta race card to play, too? ;)
    7988) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I think someone will be up all night (Message 593403)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bring on the hot women.


    Well, I know you like the red heads, so...




    No, that was last year. LOL.
    I have no intentions of staying up all night tonight.
    7989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 593378)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    grumble, grumble Darn thing came apart, it's gotta go back together mutter, mutter

    Oh, night thorin. Hi Sarge.

    Nurse, forget the hammer. Bring on the cutting torch...


    I'm thinking about getting a used/cheap monitor for the desktop I have not used in one year, putting Linux on it and then crunching for BOINC that way.
    If it turns out the monitor is not the problem, might have to take out the 2 old hard drives and slave them to something else.
    7990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 593371)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm here too, just not posting much in this thread after finally earning a win last time. :)
    7991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 593361)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ML1 and MrGray, I like these last two posts.
    7992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I think someone will be up all night (Message 593330)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, yeah, time to celebrate the birthday!
    Bring on the hot women.
    ( Oh, is that what I meant by the thread title? ;) )
    7993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Winning! (Message 593322)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CHECK THE TIMES BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ME OF POSTING A CUT-N-PASTE OF YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGE TO ME IN THE THREADS. There's probably a good 30 minutes in between my post before you sent your PM. (If the post had not been deleted, I'd give you proof in an INSTANT.)
    7994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Congrats CHIP LONG on UOTD (Message 593309)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats, Chip! :)
    7995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Winning! (Message 593294)
    Posted 27 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I responded. :)
    7996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETIzen (Message 593263)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just caught sight of a thread before it vanished mysteriously, but someone, a moderator, sorry I didn't catch your name, used the term SETIzen. That's real cool. I wanna be a SETIzen, what do I have to do to get to be one?

    Check your e-mail on our special site.
    7997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593210)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy birthday Sarge, when it comes, about 15 minutes to it in this part of the world

    It'll be 12:10 a.m. on the 28th your time in the UK?
    7998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593085)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just like to add my 2 groats worth, Sarge:
    All The Besht...Hic
    For Wednesday

    LOL! Thanks.
    7999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593081)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I be banned for my birthday? ;)


    Only if you have a birthday thread


    Hey, what do you know? I do! ;)
    8000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 593075)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I be banned for my birthday? ;)
    8001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 593036)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Definately me.

    And it was me. HAHAHAHA

    COngrats,wonder where sum threads are.

    I had to cut them from my clothing. They were hanging loose. ;)
    8002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Winning! (Message 593031)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    First back after the outrage! Ha ha ha! :)
    8003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Deep Sea Creatures (Message 592702)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Deep-sea glass squid




    Apparently, one must have permission to view this particular image?
    8004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592678)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anybody found nazca site through google earth? An year ago I tried for few days around peru and could not find.

    Maybe if there were too much questionable evidences in nazca lines in satellite pictures, google might be airbrushed too or doesn't want to make those images public.

    it is in german and ich no sprache deutsche. :(

    Nazca in German


    If you type in "Nazca Lines" in the search bar you will be taken to a point a good distance northeast from the actual Nazca site. First, type in "nazca lines",, when that "flight" is finished then type in "Nazca, Condor" and you should be right in the middle of it. There are many markers for the different figures.

    They are visible, but nearly as big as von Daniken and others have led you to believe.




    If memory serves me correctly, these things ARE big, there are several of them ... and I would not be surprised if they are spread out over several miles. So it does not surprise me that Google Earth could not come up with something showing up at one particular location, if there are indeed several locations within a radius of many miles.
    8005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 592659)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rush's last post seems ... mysterious and uncharacteristic.
    8006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592653)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Some case on Google Earth:

    I heard officially area 51 doesn't exist in any organizational list in america but google earth is showing a51. So is Google making cover-ups or is public reference list? Does Google need to involve into unproven case like this or what is going on?


    If Google Earth is showing Area 51, then that says it is not participating in its cover-up. Of course, that does not mean they do not cover-up some other things, though. I make no claims as to whether or not they do.
    8007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592646)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was all about cover-ups.

    If public news medias are so much mastered in cover ups like this way the last resort is becoming private witnesses at least in our "unidentified sector".


    Both individuals and groups can be trustworthy or untrustworthy.
    And my main point is while other things may be getting covered up, I do not understand why you think the Nazca Lines have been covered up just because you had trouble finding them on Google Earth. Next time you misplace your keys, call that a cover-up, too! I've given you two pieces of evidence that knowledge about the Nazca Lines has not been covered up. I am an individual, not associated with media or government, so you should believe me. ;)
    ( Labbie, a little help here, if possible, please? Unless you disagree with me. :) )
    8008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592628)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Should I believe in CNN and BBC or personal witnesses like these. I think even CNN and BBC do perfect cover-ups, Open your EYEs Sarge. ;)

    Read my message again before you suggest I open my eyes.
    In addition, I had heard of the Nazca Lines long before I saw them shown on TV in 1999. In neither case was I looking to find something supposedly hidden. You might also want to see my links in the Cafe area on archaeological finds. Hmmm, NASA publicly releasing info to corroborate things once believed to be myths. Sounds like some things are being uncovered.
    8009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592627)
    Posted 26 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    MPD is often diagnosed by several disturbing characteristics. One and usually the most prominent is talking to and answering yourself. :)


    shut up you stupid ugly squirrel!!


    LOL! :)
    8010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tribute To The BEST Post in THE WORLD (Message 592592)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hehe yeah,i was bored

    In the US, ripping one means you have ... pooted. :)
    8011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tribute To The BEST Post in THE WORLD (Message 592590)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nice rip....

    He "ripped one"?
    8012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NO SMOKING - By Order (Message 592585)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    I know.But its horrible and something will hit the real world.


    What do you mean by this 'something.'?


    Most of it maybe all.


    You were talking about babies.
    8013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NO SMOKING - By Order (Message 592578)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm sure all smokers will appreciate what UK is doing for them! The State of Ohio has already declared no smoking in bars! For a free country, we are sure not very free.

    Isn't it no smoking anywhere outside that is public property in Columbus?
    That's what I was told when visiting there in March 2006.
    8014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stonehenges all around us (Message 592563)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The new discovery, two miles from Stonehenge itself, is an elaborate residential compound now being excavated. It is a site where the builders of Stonehenge may have lived and where pilgrims may have stayed while attending feasts and ceremonies. Fascinating tidbits have been unearthed: a timber version of Stonehenge, evidence of different kinds of occupations in the 4,600-year-old village and a processional "road" leading to the nearby Avon River. These finds add to the picture of an enigmatic Neolithic religion, in which stone-paved roads are aligned with celestial features and great circles frame the rising and setting sun at key times of the year.


    ??????????????????

    Woodhenge was known in 1922!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodhenge



    I'm not sure, Chris, but perhaps it's news again based on the last few lines of the site you linked to ... ?

    For many years work on the study of Stonehenge had overshadowed any real breakthroughs in the understanding of Woodhenge. However, recent ongoing investigations as part of the Stonehenge Riverside Project are now starting to cast new light on the site.


    That, along with comparing and contrasting to other finds all around the word.
    8015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 592560)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . TWO DAYS & COUNTIN' SARGE . . .

    Is he gonna be 39?

    Yes, in my case, 39 is the correct number.

    Another kid!

    Tell that to cute women only 5-10 years younger who, even though I usually do not look my age, think it is sick for me to talk to them because, you know, when I was such and such an age, they were this age (= such age - 5) or that age (= such age - 10), etc. ... .
    8016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592536)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anybody found nazca site through google earth? An year ago I tried for few days around peru and could not find.

    Maybe if there were too much questionable evidences in nazca lines in satellite pictures, google might be airbrushed too or doesn't want to make those images public.

    it is in german and ich no sprache deutsche. :(

    Nazca in German


    This makes it sound like you want to believe in cover-ups, even by Google. How is it, then, that you ever heard of the Nazca Lines in the first place? Why, in 1999, did I get to see them on The Discovery Channel's special program "Atlantis: Search for the Lost Continent"? Oops, must be I didn't?!? Some show producer, network executive or government official airbrushed them out?!? Nope! ;)
    8017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592526)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What do you do if you encounter a bear?


    I should have thought the answer was obvious...

    Blame Misfit!



    LOL! :)
    8018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592457)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?s_site=stargazette&f_site=stargazette&f_sitename=Star-Gazette+%28Elmira%2C+NY%29&p_theme=gannett&p_product=ESGB&p_action=search&p_field_base-0=&p_text_base-0=bear&Search=Search&p_perpage=10&p_maxdocs=200&p_queryname=700&s_search_type=keyword&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=-3qzM
    8019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 592451)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . TWO DAYS & COUNTIN' SARGE . . .

    Is he gonna be 39?

    Yes, in my case, 39 is the correct number.
    8020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592392)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But do I care? ;)

    Do I dare?

    Eat a peach?

    Invite Stacey Jane to the beach? ;)

    Wait, that one's out of reach. :)
    8021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592390)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But do I care? ;)

    Do I dare?

    Eat a peach?

    Invite Stacey Jane to the beach? ;)
    8022) Message boards : Politics : Goofy George W. Bush Quotes (Message 592276)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The United States has no right, no desire and no intention to impose our for of government on anyone else. That is one of the main differences between us and our enemies."

    February 2, 2005
    8023) Message boards : Politics : Goofy George W. Bush Quotes (Message 592274)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "You see, the best way to defeat ... a society where people become so angry they're willing to become suiciders, is to spread freedon, is to spread democracy."

    June 8, 2005
    Washington, D.C.

    (It's the decider vs. the suiciders.)
    8024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Easter Eggs (Message 592257)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is a good one for Star wars Fans that have windows XP. It's a hidden star wars ASCII movie.

    Open Windows XP and go to Start, then run.

    Type in or copy "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl" without the commas.




    That one worked, but ...
    There's no commas, but quotes.
    And, it's not something hidden in Windows XP. Telnet takes you to a site.
    8025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592249)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My tv remote has been missing for days. Sucks that I have to get up and walk across the living room to change channels.

    LOL! You might have to go and purchase a universal remote to replace it.
    8026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 592241)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday Sarge!

    Just in case I'm not around on the 27th. Better early then...



    Argh, I have to respond in order to read size=1. :)
    8027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Avatar Is Fantastic or Is Not Worthy of You. (Message 592230)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    Pulling me back on topic..

    I think my avatar's hair looks like straw.

    I wonder if anyone ever met me off this forum they would recognise me?

    Age-progression technology? :)
    8028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : E-mail address changes (Message 592228)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If it is possible to merge the two accounts, the old e-mail address is going to have to be accessible. If it is no longer accessible or completely closed, I am 99.44% certain you will be out of luck.
    8029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592218)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh.
    Is that missing?
    8030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592212)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But do I care? ;)

    Do I dare?

    Eat a peach?
    8031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592211)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But do I care? ;)

    Do I dare?
    8032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592209)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is Sarge saying I an missing?

    I think I exist, and I can find myself as I can touch me!

    Is this good enough?


    Huh? You're a sexist in the buff?!?
    LOL! Kidding.
    8033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592205)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi, Rush! :)
    8034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592199)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    15 UFOs in 1 and a half minutes - NASA Shuttle Footage

    Link


    Well, the music on this one was not new age, more like the music from that "Party Boy in Mexico" video. Why is music needed at all? :)
    8035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free avatars!!! :) (Message 592194)
    Posted 25 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But do I care? ;)
    8036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592096)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Jeffrey meant he is a bear and he wants his head patted/belly rubbed. ;)

    Jeffrey is very much like a teddy bear.

    Give 'em some cuddling?
    8037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592090)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think Jeffrey meant he is a bear and he wants his head patted/belly rubbed. ;)
    8038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592066)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who is David Bowman? guess some local celebrity. ;)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowman
    8039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 592059)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A bare what?

    Park ranger. :^D

    dont do that no more

    I don't think he did, even though she was a fox and only 5'1". ;)
    8040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 592044)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Regarding John Lears talk on unaccounted astronauts fact, russians had same bust in 80's. In one live TV transmission from MIR station officially there were 2 people onboard but suddenly 3d person appeared very shortly in camera and transmission got cut maybe millions of tv viewers little bit amazed. And no one spoke anything except local ufo enthusiasts.

    So his that claim can be confirmed by other space country too.

    But whether that was military business or ufo business that is a different question.


    That was David Bowman showing up as the third person. :)
    8041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Security camera records 'unexplainable' object (Message 592042)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Insects ...not to mention they don't glow.

    Really?
    None of them?
    How about eels?


    eels are insects? news to me.


    It's news to me that no insects, such as fireflies, glow, so I figured he'd say no living thing glows. Eels seemed as good as any, right? Get it now?
    8042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Easter Eggs (Message 592018)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did this on Windows XP Professional.

    Got a macintosh version? ;)

    http://www.eeggs.com/tree/1119.html

    FYI when I followed these directions on my 'puter I got this.
    畢桳栠摩琠敨映捡獴


    Typo in the URL?
    8043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Easter Eggs (Message 592012)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I did this on Windows XP Professional.

    Load up notepad.
    Type "bush hid the facts"
    save the document, any name works.
    Close it.
    Open it again.
    what you open isn't what you typed.


    I've seen similar things before and they worked as promised, but not this one.
    Must be my XP is not the professional one. :)
    8044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you do if you encounter a bear? (Message 591975)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dune's and Mikey's responses seem to correspond pretty well with something I read in early May in a newspaper. Seems there've been some encounters with bears within 30-60 miles of my old stomping grounds (from 1973 to 1991). I do think, though, they did say something about how close the bear is to you (or, how far?) before taking those actions, like yelling, etc. ... . Check this, but I think if the bear is a good distance away from you, act instead as Thorin suggested. ???
    8045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Woo Hoo! 1000 plays! (Message 591970)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was play #1002...Nice song...some excellent lyrics!

    It's got the Dan stamp of approval, folks, so it's safe to listen to. :)
    8046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Security camera records 'unexplainable' object (Message 591948)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Insects ...not to mention they don't glow.

    Really?
    None of them?
    How about eels?
    8047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Egyptian City Spotted From Space (Message 591626)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    More on archaelogical finds from orbit at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/98/angkor98.html, this one regarding Angkor Wat.
    8048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Egyptian City Spotted From Space (Message 591610)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Satellite-Led Expedition Finds Atlantis of the Sands


    Shuttle Endeavour radar image of desert around the lost city of Ubar in the modern nation of Oman. The outpost assembled caravans transporting frankincense across the desert, from 2800 B.C. to 300 A.D. Magenta depicts large sand dunes. Green is limestone rock on the desert floor. White is a wadi, or dry riverbed.

    Observation satellites staring down from space have penetrated 600-ft. mountains of windswept sand to make a startling find on the fringe of the Arabian Desert. The faint shadow of a lost civilization has turned up like a ghost in computer-enhanced radar images of ancient ground under the Rub al Khali desert in the sultanate of Oman. A timeworn network of roads under the dunes seems to point to the burial place of the legendary society of Ad.

    Referred to in the Koran, the tales of The Arabian Nights and the Holy Bible, Ad probably was the bustling hub of the world's frankincense trade 5,000 years ago. Biblical archaeologists suggest wise men traded there for frankincense they bore as gifts for the infant Jesus.

    Frankincense is an aromatic resin from the sap of Middle Eastern and East African trees -- an incense used ages ago by monarchs and common folk alike, in cremations, religious rituals, ceremonies and imperial processions.

    Back in the 1930s, the grinding sand of the Rub al Khali had defeated a water-short British explorer's search for Ad's ancient trade routes. Modern archaeologists still are unable to search the entire perilous desert. Instead, they work in shirtsleeves in laboratories, feeding data from satellite radar to computers searching for long-lost clues.

    Ubar. In observation satellite photos made in the 1980s, archaeologists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California were able to see a 100-yard-wide, hoof-trodden path hidden under tons of sand in giant dunes.

    Backed by in 1990 a wealthy businessman, a scouting expedition of NASA, British and private explorers tracked the trail they had concluded was formed by frankincense traders riding camels. Following their satellite map, the party looked for geological evidence of a trail through the now-barren land to the once-thriving city of Ubar.

    The explorers stumbled upon Ad artifacts- 900 pottery shards and flint pieces -- on the trade route in the sprawling Rub al Khali desert in 1990.

    The adventurer T.E. Lawrence once described Ubar as the "Atlantis of the sands." Frankincense was an important commodity in the ancient world before the rise of Christianity when Ubar may have been the main shipping center of Ad. Worldwide shipments of frankincense to markets as far away as China and Rome could have started at Ubar.

    Ad society lasted from 3000 B.C. to the 1st century A.D. In the end, it was victimized by politics, economics and climate after a drop in demand for the frankincense fragrance as Christianity preached burying bodies instead of burning them. The abandoned villages of Ad eventually were inundated by tides of shifting sands, and eventually dunes reaching heights of 200 to 600 feet.

    Shifting Sands. The world's largest desert fluctuated in size during the 1980s, according to a NASA study of observation-satellite data.

    The Sahara Desert was observed in red light and infrared light reflected from the desert surface up to four orbiting American weather satellites, NOAA-6, -7, -9 and -10.

    Desert fluctuations depended on the amount and distribution of the rainfall in the area. Rainfall controls the amount of vegetation seen from space. Scientists suggest changes in global desert area may be tied to global climate changes.

    The Atlas Mountains and Mediterranean Sea make up a nearly immovable northern boundary, but the Sahara's southern boundary moved south 80 miles between 1980 and 1990.

    After moving to the south between 1981 and 1984, the Sahara retreated northward 88 miles from 1985 to 1986. However, it migrated 34 miles south in 1987. The southern boundary retreated 62 miles to the north in 1988, then expanded 46 miles to the south in 1989 and 1990.

    How The Expedition Found The Lost Arabian Society.

    Radar satellites staring down from space at the local topography along remote reaches of the globe penetrated 600-ft. mountains of windswept sand to make the startling find on the fringe of the Arabian Desert.

    A faint shadow of the lost civilization of Ad was turned up like a ghost in a computer-enhanced image of ancient ground under the Rub al Khali desert in the sultanate of Oman. The timeworn network of roads under the dunes seemed to point through the desert to the burial place of the legendary Ad society, believed to be the bustling hub of the world's frankincense trade 5,000 years ago.

    Ad is referred to in the Koran, in the tales of The Arabian Nights, and in the Holy Bible. Some biblical archaeologists suggest wise men traded there for frankincense they bore as gifts for the infant Jesus.

    The grinding sand of the Rub al Khali had defeated water-short British explorer Bertram Thomas looking for Ad's ancient trade routes in the 1930's. Today, unable to search the entire perilous desert environment, modern archaeologists have worked in their laboratories, feeding data from satellite radar pictures to computers searching for long-lost clues.

    In the satellite photos, Charles Elachi and Ronald Blom of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, were able to see a 100-yard-wide hoof-trodden path hidden under tons of sand in giant dunes. A 1990 scouting expedition tracked that trail which may have been formed by frankincense traders riding camels.

    Atlantis of the sands. Frankincense is an aromatic resin from the sap of Middle Eastern and East African trees. Ages ago, it was an incense used by everyone, monarches and common folk alike, in cremations, religious rituals, ceremonies and imperial processions.

    Backed by wealthy businessman Armand Hammer, the Ad expedition included Blom, Elachi, British explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes, Los Angeles attorney and part-time explorer George Hedges, and an archaeologist, geologist, computer scientist and documentary filmmaker.

    Following their satellite-drawn compass, a scouting expedition looked for geological evidence of a trail through the now-barren land to the once-thriving city of Ubar, once the main frankincense shipping center of Ad. The adventurer T.E. Lawrence once described Ubar as "the Atlantis of the sands." The city was a starting point for worldwide shipments -- to markets as far away as China and Rome -- of frankincense, an important commodity in the ancient world before the rise of Christianity.

    Ad society lasted from 3000 B.C. to the 1st century A.D. In the end, it was victimized by politics, economics and climate after a drop in demand for the frankincense fragrance as Christianity preached burying bodies instead of burning them. The abandoned villages of Ad eventually were inundated by tides of shifting sands. Today those dunes reach heights of 200 to 600 feet.

    Subtle signs. There have not been many scholarly writings about Ad. Because of a lack of ruins to study, many archaeologists have said the Ad civilization was mythical. The JPL scientists found both modern tracks and ancient ones in their satellite maps. The new ones go around the dunes while the old ones go underneath. The main 100-yard-wide path seen in satellite photos is very subtle with the ground worn slightly into the desert floor.

    The explorers had been preparing for six years to start excavating in January 1991 when they stumbled upon Ad artifacts -- 900 pottery shards and flint pieces -- on the trade route in the sprawling Rub al Khali desert during a three-week scouting expedition in July 1990. High winds drove the team away, leaving the artifacts in the hands of Oman's Department of National Heritage until the expedition returns. The main expedition in 1991 will try to prove the Ad people existed.

    The winds of war in the Middle East delayed the main expedition in 1991. Oman, once known as Muscat and Oman, is a sultanate on the southeast side of the Arabian Peninsula. It is bounded on the north by the Gulf of Oman and on the east and south by the Arabian Sea. To the southwest is Yemen. To the west is Saudi Arabia. On the northwest border is the United Arab Emirates. The Rub al Khali desert extends into the western area of Oman, but is mostly in Saudi Arabia.

    About one million people live in Oman. Besides commercial quantities of oil found in 1964, they export dates, limes, cereals and fish.

    Oman was ruled for centuries by emirs controlled by a caliphate at Baghdad. Later it was controlled by Portugal followed by the British government of India. Today, the ruling sultan has close ties with Great Britain.
    8049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient Egyptian City Spotted From Space (Message 591606)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ancient Egyptian City Spotted From Space

    Heather Whipps
    Special to LiveScience
    LiveScience.com Fri Jun 8, 11:55 AM ET

    Satellites hovering above Egypt have zoomed in on a 1,600-year-old metropolis, archaeologists say.

    Images captured from space pinpoint telltale signs of previous habitation in the swatch of land 200 miles south of Cairo, which digging recently confirmed as an ancient settlement dating from about 400 A.D.

    The find is part of a larger project aiming to map as much of ancient Egypt's archaeological sites, or "tells," as possible before they are destroyed or covered by modern development.

    "It is the biggest site discovered so far," said project leader Sarah Parcak of the University of Alabama at Birmingham. "Based on the coins and pottery we found, it appears to be a massive regional center that traded with Greece, Turkey and Libya."

    Another large city dating to 600 B.C. and a monastery from 400 A.D. are some of the four hundred or so sites that Parcak has located during her work with the satellites. The oldest dates back over 5,000 years.

    Egypt contains a wealth of already identified archaeological tells like these, but even they represent only about 0.01 percent of what is out there still uncovered, Parcak said.

    Most of the ancient settlements still buried are at risk of being lost to looting and urban sprawl. Residential sites, where the Egyptian empire's millions of citizens lived during its heyday, are especially vulnerable, archaeologists say.

    "There are thousands of settlements that Egyptians don't even know are there," Parcak told LiveScience. "Nothing will ever destroy the Pyramids or the Temple of Luxor, but these huge settlement sites where we get a lot of information are being threatened. And that's how we find out how people lived."

    The satellite technology lets archaeologists such as Parcak—the first to use space imagery in Egypt—identify points of interest on a large scale.

    "Basically, I'm trying to distinguish the ancient remains from the modern landscape," she said. "A site is going to appear very differently from space." Archaeological sites absorb moisture in a different way, she explained, and tend to be covered with specific types of soil and vegetation.

    The subtle differences would take much longer to identify on the ground, said Parcak, so Egypt's government uses her catalog to identify sites and excavate there before development takes over and destroys the site for good.
    8050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Stonehenges all around us (Message 591604)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Stonehenges all around us

    Architectural relics and modern structures show that we may not be much different than our ancestors.
    By Craig Childs, CRAIG CHILDS is the author, most recently, of "House of Rain: Tracking a Vanished Civilization Across the American Southwest."
    February 16, 2007

    ARCHEOLOGISTS recently discovered what appears to be the other half of Stonehenge, illuminating what they believe is a much larger Neolithic complex than has long been envisioned. What is coming to the surface seems strangely familiar. Looking closely at Stonehenge and other Neolithic sites, we find the formative patterns of our modern world.

    Step out of your house and you might notice your street is fixed on a cardinal grid: north, south, east, west. This pattern defines many American and European cities, as well as Neolithic sites such as Anyang in China and the Mexican city of Teotihuacan. FOR THE RECORD:
    Stonehenge: A Feb. 16 commentary about Stonehenge stated that a megalithic structure in the Sahara dating back 6,000 years was the oldest in the world . A site in Turkey known as Gobekli Tepe dates back more than 11,000 years. —
    The new discovery, two miles from Stonehenge itself, is an elaborate residential compound now being excavated. It is a site where the builders of Stonehenge may have lived and where pilgrims may have stayed while attending feasts and ceremonies. Fascinating tidbits have been unearthed: a timber version of Stonehenge, evidence of different kinds of occupations in the 4,600-year-old village and a processional "road" leading to the nearby Avon River. These finds add to the picture of an enigmatic Neolithic religion, in which stone-paved roads are aligned with celestial features and great circles frame the rising and setting sun at key times of the year.

    This all has an uncanny resemblance to Neolithic sites in different parts of the world. The Big Horn Medicine Wheel in Wyoming, dating back several hundred years, is a complex celestial calendar, its 28 spokes of aligned stones pointing to risings and settings of the sun and various stars. This medicine wheel, in turn, is similar to the Nonakado Stone Circle of Japan, from the 1st millennium BC, where standing stones mark important, calendrical events on the horizon.

    My friend and colleague, Kim Malville, recently discovered an Egyptian Stonehenge in the Sahara dating back more than 6,000 years. Malville believes that it acted as both a calendar and a temple for people living along the edge of an ancient lake, and it is the oldest known megalithic site in the world.

    My personal favorite Stonehenge look-alike — at least in concept — is in northern New Mexico, where in the 11th century, the Chaco culture built hundreds of miles of processional "roads." Rather than rings of giant standing stones, the Chacoans erected enormous masonry temples known as great houses. Many of these great houses are aligned to view celestial events through portals and windows.

    Looking at the way ancient people assembled themselves, archeologists see cults and primitive, celestial religions. But how primitive were these people's beliefs, and how different from them are we?

    I once ambled around the Colorado Capitol in Denver with a compass and notebook in hand. I had come to a modern landmark to apply the same questions we had been asking at ancient sites. I found that every aspect of the building's neoclassical architecture has alignments you see at many Neolithic ceremonial centers. Every bench is symmetrically arranged around the cruciform building, which is, in turn, set to cardinal directions. It lies within an array of other government buildings and open processionals, each holding to the same cardinal patterns.

    At the Chaco site, certain ruins were found swept clean, while nearby buildings were loaded with trash. The same thing was just unearthed near Stonehenge: some buildings littered with broken pottery and discarded bones — what archeologists believe to be the leavings of feasts and pilgrimage — and others remarkably clean.

    Julian Thomas of the University of Manchester commented that these clean rooms near Stonehenge may have belonged to special people, chiefs or priests. He also suggested that they were possibly shrines and cult centers.

    That day in Denver, tens of thousands of people were gathered in an open area at the foot of the Capitol for some kind of weekend fair. The atmosphere boomed with music and smelled of food cooking in numerous tents. What was I seeing? Pilgrims, feasts and cult centers? Were the meticulously kept buildings erected for priests and chiefs?

    The same kind of architecture can be seen in Washington, where countless astronomical alignments are constructed into the Capitol and its surrounding buildings and monuments. Most recently, Gerald Ford joined a long line of presidents whose bodies have lain in state inside the majestic, symmetrical Rotunda. Will future archeologists imagine the worship of ancient leaders whose bodies were kept within circular chambers before burial?

    So often we see ourselves as a lonely, cultural pinnacle, superior beyond all comparison. But if recent excavations at Stonehenge offer anything, they put our era in perspective, reminding us of an unbroken lineage shared across continents and cultures. We are simply an extension of an ancient age, living now in the next lost civilization.
    8051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Three thousand year-old mummy discovered in Egypt (Message 591592)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Three thousand year-old mummy discovered in Egypt

    Fri Jun 22, 4:08 PM ET


    A picture taken in 2002 shows an ancient statue of the Egyptian Pharoah Ramses II adorning the pylon of the Luxor Temple in Luxor. Archaeologists have discovered the 3,000-year-old mummy of a high priest to the god Amun in the southern city of Luxor, antiquities supremo Zahi Hawass told the official MENA news agency on Saturday.(AFP/File/Mike Nelson)

    CAIRO (AFP) - Archaeologists have discovered the 3,000-year-old mummy of a high priest to the god Amun in the southern city of Luxor, antiquities supremo Zahi Hawass told the official MENA news agency on Saturday.

    The 18th Dynasty mummy of Sennefer was unearthed in a tomb in the Valley of the Kings -- one of the most famous archaeological sites in the world -- by a team from Britain's Cambridge University.

    "The mummy was found in tomb 99 in the Valley of the Kings on the west bank of Luxor," Hawass said.

    A high priest was considered to be the most important man after the king, performing duties, religious rituals and offerings on his behalf.

    Other mummies were found during the excavation, including one with a brain tumour, a foetus, a female mummy wrapped in plaster and others which appeared to have suffered from arthritis, Hawass said.

    The Valley of the Kings was used as a burial site for royalty and nobles to the west of present day Luxor, some 700 kilometres (450 miles) south of Cairo.

    Millions of foreign tourists come to see Egypt's pharaonic treasures each year, including hundreds of thousands making the long journey south from the capital to the Valley of the Kings.

    Hawass said a report on the findings would be presented to Culture Minister Faruq Hosni, in order to allocate resources for continued excavations in the area.
    8052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing: Large lake in southern Chile (Message 591487)
    Posted 24 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey, ever watch the History Channel and hear of some possible scientific explanations for various things that occurred during The Exodus?

    Yes... The conclusions always being something like this: They could build great pyramids and lay out our solar system, yet they had no idea what clay was...
    Just some food for thought... ;)

    Nooo ... that was far from the types of conclusions that were drawn in the show I saw. If anything, they were saying that they had good evidence for The Exodus occurring and many of the strange events preceding and during it, as well as why they could have occurred. As I recall, they made little to no mention of whether something supernatural was further behind all of that. Because that's not something they could prove or disprove, is it?
    8053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing: Large lake in southern Chile (Message 591391)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    History Channel - Lake Peigneur

    It has also happened in Russia.

    Nice finds, Labbie! Thanks! I am fairly certain I saw the one from the History Channel, but probably had my attention divided between that and 1 or 2 other things as it was airing.
    8054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing: Large lake in southern Chile (Message 591360)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    this happened before but in the US a large lake was being drilled for oil and a giant salt mine was being mined right underneath it due to a miscalculation and the oil drillers drilled right into the salt mine creating a huge drain aking the lake dissapear.

    Thanks. Have a link to that story?

    Jeffrey, ever watch the History Channel and hear of some possible scientific explanations for various things that occurred during The Exodus?
    8055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 591331)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Name: Esmé

    Kenzie will certainly enjoy hearing from you. You and her have alot in common. Expect a PM within a couple of days Esmé!

    Yes..someone mentioned her to me a few weeks ago saying we were quite similar!! I did wonder what they meant by that.

    It's that both of you find my mind attractive, but for different reasons. ;)

    Now why did the final scene of Hannibal spring to mind when you said that?
    8056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Woo Hoo! 1000 plays! (Message 591093)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was play #1002...Nice song...some excellent lyrics!

    Thanks, Dan!
    8057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Woo Hoo! 1000 plays! (Message 590910)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Our Last Mile; (June, 1996)

    Could it be that we're feeling the same thing?
    Could it be that we both find the same thing wrong?
    Is it too hard to admit it?
    Could it be that I'd get something through to you in a song?

    So strange,
    that we should come together from such different roads,
    to walk together for awhile.
    Things change,
    and it becomes clearer that we carry separate loads,
    threatening to drag us down ...
    on our last mile.

    Why should it be wrong for me to want to dance and sing?
    Why should it be that you just don't feel as strong?
    It is hard for me to understand it.
    Could it be one day ...
    you'll turn around?

    How strange,
    that this should be the end of the road.
    We won't be together for awhile.
    Things have change,
    and it becomes clearer that we must carry separate loads,
    threatening to drag us down.
    This is our last mile.

    Our last mile.
    8058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Woo Hoo! 1000 plays! (Message 590906)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1000 plays of my song Our Last Mile!
    8059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590904)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It ain't over...'till it's over...unless it's over.

    Oh, I'm 99.44% certain it's over.
    8060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Missing: Large lake in southern Chile (Message 590903)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Missing: Large lake in southern Chile (wonder what Tiare will say about this?)

    Wed Jun 20, 6:44 PM ET

    SANTIAGO (Reuters) - A lake in southern Chile has mysteriously disappeared, prompting speculation the ground has simply opened up and swallowed it whole.

    The lake was situated in the Magallanes region in Patagonia and was fed by water, mostly from melting glaciers.

    It had a surface area of between 4 and 5 hectares (10-12 acres) -- about the size of 10 soccer pitches.

    "In March we patrolled the area and everything was normal ... we went again in May and to our surprise we found the lake had completely disappeared," said Juan Jose Romero, regional director of Chile's National Forestry Corporation CONAF.

    "The only things left were chunks of ice on the dry lake-bed and an enormous fissure," he told Reuters.

    CONAF is investigating the disappearance.

    One theory is that the area was hit by an earth tremor that opened a crack in the ground which acted like a drain.

    Southern Chile has been shaken by thousands of minor earth tremors this year.
    8061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590900)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    J.W. Dundee's Original Honey Brown!


    SARGE--that's from my neck of the woods. Matter of fact I know exactly where the brewery is! :)


    I asked what area of Rochester you're in (just a general idea is all I ask) in some other thread. I can't remember which thread, so maybe you answered me already.
    8062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ancient viral battle left people vulnerable to HIV (Message 590884)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ancient viral battle left people vulnerable to HIV

    By Will Dunham Thu Jun 21, 3:24 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A battle won by human ancestors against a virus that infected chimpanzees and other primates millions of years ago may have left people today more vulnerable to the AIDS virus, scientists said on Thursday.

    That ancient battle helped humans evolve and rely on a gene that may not protect so well against a modern retrovirus, the human immunodeficiency virus or HIV, the researchers said.

    They focused on an ancient virus, known as Pan troglodytes endogenous retrovirus, or PtERV1, to find clues as to why HIV has exacted such a high toll on humanity.

    "Events that happened millions of years ago have shaped human evolution, in particular susceptibility to modern human infectious diseases," Michael Emerman of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington, who led the study, said in a telephone interview.

    There is genetic evidence that the PtERV1 virus infected chimpanzees, gorillas and old-world monkeys about 4 million years ago, but no evidence it infected humans. The virus is believed to have gone extinct perhaps 2 million years ago.

    Emerman's team was able to resurrect a small portion of the PtERV1 by using DNA remnants of the virus lodged in the genome of chimpanzees.

    Working with cells in a laboratory, they found that an old virus-fighting gene present in people, known as TRIM5a, succeeded in neutralizing PtERV1.

    The gene makes a protein that binds to and destroys the virus before it can replicate within the body, they report in the journal Science.

    "However, while TRIM5a may have served humans well millions of years ago, the antiviral protein does not seem to be good at defending against any of the retroviruses that currently infect humans, such as HIV-1," Emerman said in a statement.

    VIRAL INFILTRATION

    Small mutations may account for this. TRIM5a taken from baboons and African green monkeys carried mutations that helped it reduce HIV in lab dishes but it was almost useless against PtERV1.

    When TRIM5a worked well against PtERV1, as in humans, it was ineffective against HIV.

    "In the end, this drove human evolution to be more susceptible to HIV," Emerman said.

    Retroviruses have been infiltrating the genomes of human ancestors and other animals for millions of years. These viruses go into the chromosomes and DNA of the cells they infect and can get passed on from generation to generation.

    In fact, such vestiges of primitive infections comprise 8 percent of the human genome, Emerman said.

    Other researchers found remnants of the PtERV1 retrovirus in the genomes of chimpanzees, gorillas and some other primates in Africa, but not humans or another great ape, the orangutan.

    When the chimpanzee genome was mapped, a major difference compared to the human genome was the presence of about 130 copies of PtERV1 in chimpanzees and zero in people, the researchers. The retrovirus is so mutated in living chimps that it is inactivated, the researchers said.

    While the study sheds light on the historical human susceptibility to pathogens, Emerman said, it does not appear to provide immediate clues as to how to beat HIV.
    8063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590873)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must ... drink ... more ... hearing ... fireworks ... outside ... reminding ... ne ... of ... last ... year.
    8064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590867)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, not quite all. We met in 1986.

    I don't have red hair and I never visited you.
    Please tell us more about your sordid past :o)

    LOL! And, as far as I know, you are also male.
    The redhead was female.
    Nothing sordid.
    But, I am so busy, when I tried to tell someone the story in PM, I only got through Chapter 1. :)
    8065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590864)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I second the motion. Bring on the beer... or the redhead.

    J.W. Dundee's Original Honey Brown!
    8066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590857)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, not quite all. We met in 1986.
    8067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beer to forget the crazy redhead that visited me 1 year ago today, a few days before my 38th birthday (Message 590856)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The thread title almost says it all. :)
    8068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 590849)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Ewww! Not Barney!
    8069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 590848)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . FOUR DAYS & COUNTIN' SARGE . . .

    What timezone are you going by?
    And by the way... FANTASTIC!

    Yep, that looks like Georgia alright! :)
    ( I told Nobody he should go by Eastern time. :) )
    8070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Knightmare - User of the Day June 22'nd 2007... (Message 590846)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    wtg!
    8071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590845)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Female, 'great lookin' hippy of 64, long suffering mother of Esme and a socialist.


    < well well well - the young lady has coME outta hidin' - Thankz Mom / Esme' {'ello)

    > SETI History has now been Set - 'Guiness' shall be callin' on ya kenzieB ;O



    Or at least "Amber Bock" or "Honey Brown." ;)
    8072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : *** Es turns 39! *** Closed (Message 590777)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    39??!!! WTF??!

    I AM NOT 39!!!


    ..i am 35..actually.. I started going backwards once I hit 30 so I am really 25.

    ..but thanks for the thread anyway Rush. :p

    and thank you everyone that posted here: Sargeâ„¢, Dune, Dan, Jeremy,Knightmare, Jim, Nobody, Michael Roberts, hiamps, Misfit ( who actually remembered my correct age!), Kenzie ( nice to meet you) , Jeffry ( we missed you too), Chris (nah..it is nice to be missed..but 39..seriously..do I look 39?), Doc (huggles), Monday (hows's it hanging?), Clarkie, Michael B, Doggy, Mikey, Mike, Timmy! and last but not least A/C.

    I have missed you all..well..almost all :D



    What? Are you saying I do look 39? Which is what I turn next Wednesday?
    :P
    8073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590774)
    Posted 23 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Name: Esmé

    Kenzie will certainly enjoy hearing from you. You and her have alot in common. Expect a PM within a couple of days Esmé!

    Yes..someone mentioned her to me a few weeks ago saying we were quite similar!! I did wonder what they meant by that.

    It's that both of you find my mind attractive, but for different reasons. ;)
    8074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Networking (Message 590525)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yeah, I pretty much despise myspace. I also joined after much begging from old high school friends. But myspace allows people to create hideous abominations of profile pages. Things like full-picture backgrounds with illegible text over the top and 30 different audio/video clips that all start playing as soon as the page loads make me want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon. I log in a couple times a year to see whats going on but I dread it every time.

    Recently I got on to facebook and it seems much more sane. There is still plenty of user generated content and social networking going on but there are a few more guidelines that make for a cleaner and in my opinion more pleasant environment. And I too was surprised by how many people that I haven't spoken to in 5+ years have managed to find me on there.


    I have to agree with what Toby says about Myspace, that people have no concept of creating an organized site. In fact, each person's profile is not a site, but one page and perhaps links to their pix, videos and blogs.
    As for the whole idea of Web 2.0, user-generated ... just like anything else produced, like Hollywood movies, music, newspaper editorials and so on, there's some great stuff, some good stuff, some mediocre stuff and some pure crap. Right?
    Who's got time to sort through a lot of it?
    8075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Networking (Message 590513)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    would you be enabling or disabling that plugin?

    That would depend on the flexibility of the plug-in preferences... ;)


    Dude....if you want to attract women...try a bug zapper.


    [That 70's Show voice on]Oooh! Burn!!![/That 70's Show voice off.]
    8076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 590227)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . FIVE DAYS & COUNTIN' SARGE . . .

    How was your vacation, Dune?
    8077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590173)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, I don't Jeffrey, as she said they can be PM'd. Are you afraid of kenzie and her sending you mean PMs? LOL!
    8078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : *** Es turns 39! *** Closed (Message 590171)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As of this post it is the wee early hours of the morning of June 22 in the United Kingdom.

    Someone very near and dear to me was born 39 years ago today.

    Now accepting the Happiest of Birthday wishes, you have 24 hours. Be prompt or be gone.

    Go!!


    No, Es is younger than me.
    EDIT: But Happy Birthday anyway, even if you beat me by 5 days, darn you!
    8079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590153)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon, Jeffrey.
    Just b/c you're paranoid doesn't mean you have to shoot down her idea.
    Think of it as a time capsule.
    8080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who Are You? (Message 590133)
    Posted 22 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why not ask for educational level and, if above high school, area of specialization and whether their work afterwards (if applicable) has used what (s)he studied? :)
    8081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Social Networking (Message 590105)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because of my friends, I am now on Myspace.com. All my friends begged me and begged me to get on there, so I did. Now I'm getting contacted by friends I haven't heard from in years. So its actually cool!

    When I get some spare time, I'll check your site out. :-)

    Jeremy


    Oooh! Oooh! Can I add you as a friend on Myspace, Jeremy? :)
    8082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free tv online.... (Message 590044)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Try http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/11 watching BSG divxs last coupe of hours :P
    [ note pilot episodes are out of sequence, part 2 = part 1... & switch audio track to English unless of course you prefer German]

    PERFECT!!! I just watched it a few minutes ... much better quality!
    What else have they got, besides Battlestar Galactica?!?
    8083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Free tv online.... (Message 590033)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone tryed the free tv online. i have checked out freetvonline.com and it looks good. i have watched a few movies and about any episoed of any series, star trek and even the Cosmo's series. remember Alf, haha, even that.. check it out

    I typed in "battlestar" and all I got was links to other sites, many broken. The ones that did work would have been short clips anyway, not full episodes.
    8084) Message boards : SETI@home Science : +/-E = +/-mc^2 (Message 589930)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think you mean c = +(E/m)^(1/2)
    8085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 589767)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's 10:44 p.m. and I just finished my supper. Now time for popcorn, beverage and an hour's worth of work on the dissertation.
    8086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 589763)
    Posted 21 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now, the first video of the week entry!

    (Drum Roll):

    Movie of the week: Week 1

    Next one on Monday. (or there abouts.)

    :)


    I get "impressions" about which ones are obvious hoaxes by how people sound in these videos. Do they sound stilted? Insincere? In this one, quoted, both seem to be the case. There's been 1 or 2 other recent posts with links where I get the same impression.
    8087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Opinions on the best FREE antivirus? (Message 589720)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hands down for me it's AVG....

    Can you provide him a link?
    8088) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 589656)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like the slight difference in the look.
    I found out about this by looking at the messages tab, something I rarely do.
    Looking at the main page, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/, I do not see an announcement of the update.
    I still wish for an automated notice when a newer version of the BOINC manager is available.



    Adds memory and disk usage in the messages file, also you can fine tune settings without doing it over the web and save them locally. No big deal really.


    Cool, that is one thing I asked for! :)
    8089) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC v5.10.7 (Message 589615)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like the slight difference in the look.
    I found out about this by looking at the messages tab, something I rarely do.
    Looking at the main page, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/, I do not see an announcement of the update.
    I still wish for an automated notice when a newer version of the BOINC manager is available.
    8090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : School Gestapo bans touching (Message 589594)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The more "Politically Correct" society gets...The more screwed up things seem. Protectionism sucks!



    I agree.


    Wait! You can't "agree". You now need to phrase that as:

    "I am thought-positive with you." ;-)


    The silliest thing I think I've heard lately is the change in the drug advertisements on television. The word "doctor" has been replaced with "prescriber". I don't know what was so un-PC about "doctor"... :shrug:



    Ummm ... you're in Virginia, right?
    I have family in Fairfax and also in Alexandria/Springfield.
    From them, I have heard you can get a doctor to prescribe you something over the phone without ever going in for an examination.
    Is this true?!?
    If so, then those doctors have lost the right to that name, thank you very much.
    8091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 589517)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning because of moving molecules?

    Hi Mike and Dan.

    Hows the birthday developing Mike?


    Fine so far.

    Now off to pick up some beer and coke.


    Beer does not mix with Coca-Cola (or Sinalco) and don't you dare be referring to the other kind of coke!
    8092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 589402)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But! But! The pic is so small!
    8093) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 589395)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    For MY birthday, I want a picture of ... .
    8094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 589390)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich wünsche du alles Gute zum Geburtstag.
    (I think this says "I wish everything good to you on your birthday.")
    [EDIT: I replaced Ihnen with du. Hmmm. Perhaps "dir"? Heck, I don't know!!!]

    try "Dir"

    Aber ich Mike ... wissen/kennen/ummm ... ?
    8095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 589387)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    102!
    8096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Mike the Mod - June 20 (Message 589385)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ich wünsche du alles Gute zum Geburtstag.
    (I think this says "I wish everything good to you on your birthday.")
    [EDIT: I replaced Ihnen with du. Hmmm. Perhaps "dir"? Heck, I don't know!!!]
    8097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 589382)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry for your loss....I'm in Rochester.

    May I ask which part?
    My Dad's parents used to live near the Gundry plant, then Gates.
    On my Mom's side, they're originally from West Henrietta and now they're spread out through their, Pittsford, Webster, so on and so forth.
    8098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 589380)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It needs to be connected to the problem "Determine which is 'larger': sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2) or sqrt(4+(x+y)^2)."
    You might also want to consider the case of x = y and whether the diagram(s) tell you anything in that case.
    8099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 589363)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Determine which is "larger": sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2) or sqrt(4+(x+y)^2).
    Once you have solved it, state a related more general problem. Solve it and include your proof.


    Can you figure out what these diagrams have to do with the problem?


    Yes.


    Then state your solution! :)
    8100) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 589353)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm also 1/2 Jewish.
    8101) Message boards : Number crunching : "Classic" data. (Message 589350)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's with all this classic/old data that I keep getting.

    I just rejoined SETI@HOME after being away for many years only to find that we are processing data from 1999, 2001 etc.

    I thought that data would have already been scanned by now. What's up with that?


    Your right! I mean, we've got, what, 99% of all computers working for the project and 99% of people have computers, plus the number of stars is small (maybe 42,000?) and the area we've scanned so far is pretty huge, so ... !
    8102) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Another big discovery on water from Mars (Message 589349)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Water on Mars, Poppy Cock!

    How can water be located on a rock that is a long way from earth?

    Earth was created by GOD.

    The heavens were created by GOD.

    What did GOD create a "TEST" Planet first?

    I think not!

    GOD does not make mistakes!

    RAT


    Yes, just like God didn't create a test human race and then wipe all but a few out, like Evan Almighty and his family ... errr, I mean ... Noah and his family.
    8103) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Another big discovery on water from Mars (Message 589347)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This claim has been debunked here http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00000998/


    Thanks for the link - of course I didn't believe it for a second because of the false colour, but it never ceases to amaze me what some people will do to get their 15 minutes of fame...


    What evidence do you have that they were simply seeking fame?
    8104) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 589334)
    Posted 20 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do you mean TL? I'm a baptized "Mormon" myself, though having been inactive

    No, BH... I didn't know... Aren't most inactive, cept for the missionaries... ;)

    I'm a Mormon, and I'm active.
    8105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 588980)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (My best HAL 9000 voice) "We're all alone, Dan. It's just us, Dan. I think they're all dead, Dan. Can you hear me, Dan. Dan..."

    It is CREEPY quiet around here tonight.


    Rut roh, Dan and Kenzie alone? What ever will happen? ;)
    8106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588978)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself.

    8107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588976)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here I thought Jeffrey was going to break down and finally tell us his theory of how the Twin Towers were really destroyed. Oh, well.
    8108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588973)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow... This was an unexpected turn of events...

    Talk about 'beating a dead horse'...

    Does this somehow justify what we Americans have done? ;)

    8109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588962)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We went to Iraq in the first place to topple the Govt. of well-known international bad-boy Saddam, because he didn't live up to the surrender agreements made after his failed invasion of Kuwait. That was a strong mission accomplished.


    What?!? You mean we didn't go there because we thought he had WMDs?!? ;)
    8110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588960)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :(
    8111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588909)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, of course not. History is replete with examples where a conquered people whose gov't was completely destroyed never did this. It's rare indeed that anyone has thought that the best way to fight back was to go around slaughtering your own countrymen. The Germans didn't slaughter other Germans after losing WWII. The Indians didn't figure that the best way to fight back against the white man here in America was to slaughter other Indians. The Eastern Asians didn't fight back against the Japanese in WWII by slaughtering themselves. This list is endless.

    This is out of my area of expertise, but ... Rush, what about former blocs of the Soviet Union after the collapse of the USSR?

    Eh, I don't think those situations are much of a parallel, as you are talking about gov't control that, in essence, collapsed from within of its own weight. In Iraq, or here, or Germany, there was clearly an outside invader that had dismantled the gov't in question.

    Ummm ... no, I don't think it was from within, since it was the so-called "satellite" countries that experienced the problems. I'm thinking of Kosovo, Serbs, Czechs, Slovaks, etc. ... .
    8112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588880)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, of course not. History is replete with examples where a conquered people whose gov't was completely destroyed never did this. It's rare indeed that anyone has thought that the best way to fight back was to go around slaughtering your own countrymen. The Germans didn't slaughter other Germans after losing WWII. The Indians didn't figure that the best way to fight back against the white man here in America was to slaughter other Indians. The Eastern Asians didn't fight back against the Japanese in WWII by slaughtering themselves. This list is endless.

    This is out of my area of expertise, but ... Rush, what about former blocs of the Soviet Union after the collapse of the USSR?

    Now extending my previous question with a comment:
    Did not the USSR force together peoples into a single country where those people had ancient problems with another?
    I recently read that Iraq had not even been a country before the 20th century. There are at least three separate groups there. They were lumped together into a single country by treaty agreements. (Is this correct?) Then, add to that, being ruled by a cruel leader with an iron fist, which could also be considered somewhat parallel to the USSR. Correct or not?
    8113) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588873)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, it seems that some Moslems (in the Middle East) are eager to kill each other, let alone people of other faiths from other areas.

    Do you honestly believe that this wouldn't happen between the different factions in America if the Government were to be completely dismantled as it was in Iraq?

    No, of course not. History is replete with examples where a conquered people whose gov't was completely destroyed never did this. It's rare indeed that anyone has thought that the best way to fight back was to go around slaughtering your own countrymen. The Germans didn't slaughter other Germans after losing WWII. The Indians didn't figure that the best way to fight back against the white man here in America was to slaughter other Indians. The Eastern Asians didn't fight back against the Japanese in WWII by slaughtering themselves. This list is endless.

    This is out of my area of expertise, but ... Rush, what about former blocs of the Soviet Union after the collapse of the USSR?
    8114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 588866)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't really pay attention to the stuff you posted. I'm sorry about that. I figured it was just an example of how video can be faked, manipulated, or misinterpreted. Was I wrong?

    Yes, I have a digital cam but no vid.


    I did check the vid he posted. Not that I completely followed what it was supposed to be, but I did not get the impression that he believed it was something fake. If any of what you listed, maybe misinterpretation, but I am not even sure about that.
    Is your digital camera only for still shots or for video. If for video, but you have no cassettes, if you have the right port on a laptop computer and the right cable, you can do your experimenting. :)
    8115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588862)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most of the terrorist violence in Iraq now is not directed towards the USA.

    Then why is most of the USA 'verbal violence' directed at Muslims?[/quote]

    Jeff, if all goes according to my plan, I will engage you less and less in this discussion. To this one quoted point, sorry, you are probably not right. There is indeed bigotry. But, most of our "verbal violence" is directed towards ourselves and our fellow Americans. It's easier to be down on one's self, feeling guilt and shame, or to lash out at somebody nearby ... a family member, a former friend, a "faceless" fellow US citizen on the Internet ... . Ignore the boards and the news for a while. When you hear people within EARSHOT throwing around insults or anything of the sort, I'll bet you more often it is towards someone else nearby or the person is berating himself or herself.
    8116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 588853)
    Posted 19 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Siran is frustrated ... .
    8117) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588810)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3. Burn In Hell

    YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THE THINGS I'VE DONE WRONG IN MY LIFE
    WITHOUT EVEN TRYING I'VE LIVED ON THE EDGE OF A KNIFE
    WELL, I'VE PLAYED WITH FIRE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET MYSELF BURNED
    TO THINE OWN SELF BE TRUE, SO I THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR A TURN

    BEFORE I BURN IN HELL
    OH, BURN IN HELL

    I'll come right out with it: I think this song is crap.

    So far as the music part goes, I think it's third-rate rock. There isn't a speck of originality in it, it's all rehashed '60s and '70s rock...and not nearly as good.

    So far as the lyrics go, I think they're even worse. It's trying to glamorize people being losers as being "one up" on the rest (they're not); and it's trying to equate "doing wrong" with "living on the edge" and being "free", which is also a load of crap.

    I feel sorry for the way music like this turns impressionable young people away from worthy goals.


    Sorry Sarge, but I have to rate this one Both Thumbs Down!


    LOL!
    (Ummm, beside posting it being a joke, you did misunderstand the lyrics. Re-read them. :) Furthermore, that band HAS been around since the early 70s, though the song was released on album in 83 or 84.)
    8118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 588789)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to win. :-)

    Congrats Sarge.


    I'm letting you win this time. :)
    8119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 588781)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey London guys.

    I´ve found a flight on 27 of June very cheap.

    Could you tell me if something special going on between 27 and 30 of june in London.

    I couldn´t find a hotel.


    You're flying me to London for my birthday? How nice! :)
    8120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Truth Be Told (Message 588780)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Feel the Love of almighty Allah!!! :)
    8121) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588767)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMOeBTHbTUs
    8122) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588764)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    3. Burn In Hell

    WELCOME TO THE ABANDONED LAND
    COME ON IN CHILD, TAKE MY HAND
    HERE THERE'S NO WORK OR PLAY
    ONLY ONE BILL TO PAY
    THERE'S JUST FIVE WORDS TO SAY
    AS YOU GO DOWN, DOWN, DOWN

    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    OH, BURN IN HELL

    YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ALL THE THINGS I'VE DONE WRONG IN MY LIFE
    WITHOUT EVEN TRYING I'VE LIVED ON THE EDGE OF A KNIFE
    WELL, I'VE PLAYED WITH FIRE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET MYSELF BURNED
    TO THINE OWN SELF BE TRUE, SO I THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR A TURN

    BEFORE I BURN IN HELL
    OH, BURN IN HELL

    TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN YOUR HEART, TELL ME WHAT DO YOU SEE?
    IT'S BLACK AND IT'S DARK, NOW IS THAT HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE?
    IT'S UP TO YOU, WHAT YOU DO WILL DECIDE YOUR OWN FATE
    MAKE YOUR CHOICE NOW FOR TOMORROW MAY BE FAR TOO LATE

    AND THEN YOU'LL BURN IN HELL
    HEAR NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    SEE NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    OH, BURN IN HELL
    LAY NO EVIL DOWN ON ME
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    SPEAK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    THINK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    OH, BURN IN HELL
    PLAY WITH EVIL, 'CAUSE I'M FREE

    HEAR NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    SEE NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    LAY NO EVIL DOWN ON ME
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    SPEAK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    THINK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    PLAY WITH EVIL, 'CAUSE I'M FREE
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    HEAR NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    SEE NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    LAY NO EVIL DOWN ON ME
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    SPEAK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    THINK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU
    PLAY WITH EVIL, 'CAUSE I'M FREE
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL

    HEAR NO EVIL, DON'T YOU SEE NO EVIL
    OH, BURN IN HELL
    DON'T YOU LAY NO EVIL DOWN ON ME
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    SPEAK NO EVIL, DON'T YOU THINK NO EVIL,
    OH, BURN IN HELL
    DON'T YOU PLAY WITH EVIL, 'CAUSE I'M FREE
    YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL
    HEAR NO EVIL, DON'T YOU SEE NO EVIL
    OH, BURN IN HELL
    DON'T YOU LAY NO EVIL DOWN ON ME
    8123) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588763)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All praise be to Allah, for he shall smite the non-believers and the wrong-believers and they shall burn in Hell and not even have the water the dogs in hell get to lap up.
    8124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTP may W # 37 - CLOSED! THE WINNER IS THE GAS GIANT! (Message 588724)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning! :)
    8125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588723)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    oh . . . fyi - the littlE bat's flyin' undEr thE radar

    Indeed, he is. :)
    8126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588716)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    tiME 2 closE thE thrEad? mi littlE bat friEnd WINS . . . ;OO

    Nope. I got 1066. :)
    8127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588703)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beets, I'm a Muslim.
    8128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588700)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back from "Funnies" Land, and winning!

    Beets, you lost the Battle of Hastings. :P
    Wihlelm da Konkweror hath WONNETH and er sind mich!
    8129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588696)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Hey London guys.

    I´ve found a flight on 27 of June very cheap.

    Could you tell me if something special going on between 27 and 30 of june in London.

    I couldn´t find a hotel in the middle.

    Help is much apreciated.



    A flight on my birthday? You're buying me a ticket to London on my birthday? :)
    8130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588691)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unless, of course, they changed the year of the Battle of Hastings ... ?
    Darn time travelers!
    8131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588688)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    bing!

    Finally, I win. :P
    8132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588686)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1066?
    8133) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588684)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1064~
    8134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 588675)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    8135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588665)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dang, not 6!
    8136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588663)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    6
    8137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588661)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    8 to go
    8138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588640)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At the very least, you will need your birth certificate and, I think, one of other piece of ID like a driver's license. That's currently and if you do not have a passport. If I had been able to track down where in my apartment my birth certificate is, I would have been able to travel from Michigan through Canada to Rochester, NY (and back) for my Mom's funeral in mid-March.
    8139) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Outbox in the PM feature? (Message 588639)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean you do not cc to yourself?


    That's a good idea too!


    For longer PMs I still use Word .docs, just in case I hit the wrong button and erase something.


    Excellent idea.
    I was being slightly silly, but I have cc'd myself a few times, to keep a record and to check how the "send to multiple addresses" thing works.
    8140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588638)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning by the numbers!

    I use BOTH numbers and intuition, so you guys that only use one or the other are so ^&#(*ed! :) ( No left-brain/right-brain dominance for me! :) )
    8141) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588598)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Together with MF, Jeffrey and DB form a friendly triumvirate. :)
    8142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588597)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning intuitively :-)

    Winning. :P
    8143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588591)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1034 and winning :-)


    winning without numbers.


    If there were no numbers John could not stop it.


    He can stop it by date or just intuitive.


    Dates involve numbers. :P
    He'd have to choose a time on that date. Which involves more numbers. :P
    Intuitive? John doesn't get intuitive on his R&D proposals, so I expect him to exact the very same precision here. :)
    8144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588583)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1034 and winning :-)


    winning without numbers.


    If there were no numbers John could not stop it.
    8145) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588582)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Note: Jeffrey and Dogbytes are actually good friends. They just use this message board for honing their debate skills and do not actually hold the beliefs they espouse on the boards. ;)
    8146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588562)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A 2 hour win? Down the drain it goes!

    What goes down...must come up.

    Round and round.
    8147) Questions and Answers : Wish list : Outbox in the PM feature? (Message 588561)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean you do not cc to yourself?
    8148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 588555)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [font="symbol"]p[/font]
    Bah
    8149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588552)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A 2 hour win? Down the drain it goes!
    8150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588478)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while getting home from work.
    Oops, I guess I woke Sarge up :)

    Wanna put me back to sleep?
    8151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588475)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning after waking up from only 1.5-2 hrs. of sleep.
    8152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588448)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well now that 1K is out of the way i can have a good nights rest up here.

    Nighty night!

    Nighty night to you too!

    Thank you.

    You're Welcome!

    Sweet dreams of the BOTD (special bonus profile tonight!)

    Sweet dreams are made of this...


    7. Powerslave

    [Dickinson]

    Into the Abyss I'll fall - the eye of Horus
    Into the eyes of the night - watching me go
    Green is the cat's eye that glows -
    In this Temple
    Enter the risen Osiris - risen again.

    [Chorus:]
    Tell me why I had to be a Powerslave
    I don't wanna die, I'm a God,
    Why can't I live on?
    When the Life Giver dies,
    All around is laid waste,
    And in my last hour,
    I'm a Slave to the Power of Death.

    When I was living this lie - Fear was my Game
    People would worship and fall -
    Drop to their knees.
    So bring me the blood and
    Red wine for the one to succeed me,
    For he is a man and a God -
    And He will die too.
    8153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588440)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well now that 1K is out of the way i can have a good nights rest up here.

    Dan's using reverse psychology to get the rest of us in the USA to go to sleep.
    8154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588436)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1,000th POST!

    I win! Go figure.

    ...oh hell...


    You LOSE! :P
    8155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588434)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1000!!!
    8156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588433)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    999
    8157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588427)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rut roh, kenzieB is #13! She's gonna come in late at night and cast of spell of bad luck upon us all and she'll win!
    8158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588426)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OOOH! They call me "Mister Six"!

    Thanks Richard!

    Winning in black and white!

    They call me "Mister Four"...'cause i've got more.


    Do I detect a trace of "Two Upsmanship"?


    lol
    8159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588393)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still Winning

    Oh? :)

    Yes

    Alrighty, then. :)
    8160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588388)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still Winning

    Oh? :)
    8161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588380)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, I'm officially moved, now comes the unpacking. Ick, more work.

    Happy Father's Day all you fathers out there?


    Wanna help me move in August? ;)

    Huh, huh, yeah sure, where are you again? It'll only cost you a plane ticket.


    You're in Ontario, right?

    Correct sir.


    No "sir," please. :) It's a name, not a rank. And people at that rank do not get called sir or saluted, anyway. :)
    Kidding.
    I'm in Michigan, but will be hopping over the westerly lake.
    8162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588378)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, I'm officially moved, now comes the unpacking. Ick, more work.

    Happy Father's Day all you fathers out there?


    Wanna help me move in August? ;)

    Huh, huh, yeah sure, where are you again? It'll only cost you a plane ticket.


    You're in Ontario, right?
    8163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe... CLOSED (Message 588372)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey!


    Hey back! Minden jo?


    Igen :),és te?

    I'm fine A.1. I had a very quiet afternoon playing cards with my Dad.



    Hey John!

    It's been awhile since I've had a gin and tonic, myself. Have you ever tried the Bombay Blue Gin? It tasted fine but I don't see what all the fuss is about.



    Edit: I'm hiding out here from Thorin on the TLPTPW thread. He posted, "Trying to get Beets off the podium", so I just vanished! LOL

    Shhhhhh... Don't tell him I'm here!


    I will PM him on Yahoo and tell him. :)
    8164) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588368)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, I'm officially moved, now comes the unpacking. Ick, more work.

    Happy Father's Day all you fathers out there?


    Wanna help me move in August? ;)
    8165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 588367)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    666:

    666: is the number of the Devil. If you look closely, you will see that there is never any post in any thread numbered 666 on Cafe Seti. The numbering goes to 665, then jumps to 667.


    Question: Is that because the mods have been ordered to remove all 666 post numbers from the thread? Or, is this an administrative "fix" to keep the forums "Kid Friendly"? Or...is this some kind of religious cabal foisted on the forums by the Da Vinci Code guardians?

    EEK!


    Oh, really?

    Unread post(s) Rocky's Cafe...:-)
    666
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    Unread post Message 588362 - Posted 18 Jun 2007 0:49:00 UTC
    Last modified: 18 Jun 2007 0:53:51 UTC

    The French elections were held today. Le Figaro is reporting that the UMP Party is doing very well. They're the dark blue on the map below. I don't really know much about French politics, though. :(

    The story headline on the right there says, "Frenchmen wanted to accord the Left the status of Opposition". So, I'm guessing the winning UMP Party is a Right-Central party.


    Edit: Ahhh! The Globe and Mail reports, "PARIS — French President Nicolas Sarkozy's allies won a large majority in parliamentary elections on Sunday but fell short of the predicted landslide."


    Well, isn't that special? ;)
    8166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588361)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will bring order to the galaxy.

    Anakin Skywalker, shortly after killing the leaders of the Trade Federation?

    Great Parody.
    8167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588359)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I will bring order to the galaxy.

    Anakin Skywalker, shortly after killing the leaders of the Trade Federation?
    8168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588349)
    Posted 18 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No Chaos here anymore

    winning

    SETI@home member since 29 Sep 2006
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    hey I think I'm less chaotic than you are :-P
    I'm simply more of the calm kind
    LOL


    I'm actually so calm that I need to go to bed :-D



    Nope, you're only 800 posts away from me, approximately, and have been posting for about 1 year less. :P
    8169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588345)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No Chaos here anymore

    winning

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    8170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588343)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There is no order...only chaos.

    Calm Chaos?
    Borg Queen: "We will bring order to the chaos."
    8171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 588338)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Hope your dreams all come true,
    Golden candles, Sugar bangles,
    Happy Birthday to you.


    I get "The Bangles" for my birthday?


    Good for you Sarge, but don't wear 'em too tight on the day. lol


    I could have too much fun with this comment!
    The Bangles Official Website.
    8172) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588335)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while watching Law&Order New York (does this show have the same name in the US?)

    The original (main) series is just called "Law&Order", Thorin. ;)

    But now they also have "Law & Order SUV" (Sports Utility Vehicle). ;)
    8173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588284)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wrong thread Dan.

    The air freshener is needed here, but not there.

    You smells what you get!

    You gets what you see!

    951

    Winning again?

    You can see poot gas?

    Apparently that is one of John's superpowers. :)
    8174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 588273)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Holy poot-i-tude, Batman!
    8175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 588272)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Determine which is "larger": sqrt(1+x^2)+sqrt(1+y^2) or sqrt(4+(x+y)^2).
    Once you have solved it, state a related more general problem. Solve it and include your proof.


    Can you figure out what these diagrams have to do with the problem?

    8176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588271)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL KM, i dont need a greencard, and i still do business trips to the US. twice a week :D


    LMAO

    I don't need a passport to get into Canada since I live in Michigan. I have only been there a couple of times though.


    Don't be too sure about this, Knightmare. Maybe not (yet) to get INTO Canada, but to get back into the USA it already is or soon will be required (depending on your mode of travel).

    As of Jan. 23, 2007, you need a US Passport to return to the USA from Canada by air. A special exemption to this is granted through Sept. 30, 2007, if you can present proof that you have APPLIED for a US Passport.

    As early as Jan. 1, 2008, a US Passport requirement for reentering the USA using land or sea travel will go into effect. This may be delayed a short while, but the DHS is working to meet the Jan. 1, 2008 target date.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/whtibasics.shtm


    At the very least, you will need your birth certificate and, I think, one of other piece of ID like a driver's license. That's currently and if you do not have a passport. If I had been able to track down where in my apartment my birth certificate is, I would have been able to travel through Canada to Rochester, NY (and back) for my Mom's funeral in mid-March.
    8177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588270)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back from a good day watching motor racing (Le Mans 24 this morning and the Indy F1 this afternoon). Had beer and slept some as well.

    Winning now the weekend is disappearing?


    The weekend is pooting away.
    8178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 588266)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOOOooottttt!!!&
    I'm WINNING!!!

    And now Jim S is back in the race!!!
    He's been eating franks and beans and drinking Killian's, folks, so this promises to be a smelly, loud, poot-filled afternoon!
    8179) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588256)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning with ease.


    Who's ease?

    Winning all by myself!


    Disease?


    Feeling uncomfortable? Stretch out on this Rack. LOL


    Spend a little time in the iron maiden?
    8180) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Sorry, Pluto! You aren't even the biggest dwarf planet!!! (Message 588253)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Once a planet, always a planet!


    Once a flat Earth, aways a flat Earth!

    Once the Earth was center of the Universe, always the Earth should be the center of the Universe!

    :)


    Ummm, I do not think this is quite the same.
    What you've listed are beliefs.
    The bit about Pluto is about changing definitions. My element analogy, therefore, was not entirely appropriate, as I guess some ancients DID believe all things were made up of these four things to varying degrees ... ?
    8181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588248)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning with ease.


    Who's ease?

    Winning all by myself!


    Disease?
    8182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI Social Club + Cafe SETI (The Experiment) . . . (Message 588247)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    SETI Social Club + Cafe SETI (The Experiment) - The Interplanetary Internet . . . requiring detailed cooperation between the space communications community

    and the groups that set standards for Internet communications


    JPL's Interplanetary Internet . . . 23 August 1999


    What the new JPL project is trying to do is to take the technologies that are emerging for wireless and satellite communications on Earth

    and move them off the planet. The task is to organize various research groups to develop standardized procedures and protocols that will make the

    Internet work in space, Hooke said. It requires detailed cooperation between the space communications community and the groups that set standards

    for Internet communications



    . . . and here's MRO. . . the first link in a communications bridge back to Earth -- an "interplanetary Internet" that can be used by spacecraft in coming years - 12 May 2006


    > in conslusion ('a Start') the Actual Wiring up the solar system certainly seems like the next big challenge . . .


    < nEXt . . . ? ? ?


    I haven't followed the links yet, so maybe this is my fault, but I do not entirely follow the idea here. I think wiring Earth is still a big enough challenge to deal with, let alone the security issues (and I am thinking of individuals keeping their computers secure, but there can be other interpretations).
    For example, while in Chicago in early April, a newspaper stated that it will not be too long, relatively speaking, before the entire city is covered by a WiFi cloud or whatever that next thing above WiFi is.
    How reliable will that cloud be? Will it cut and in and out?
    What about other bigger cities?
    What about the rest of the country? Someone in Washington state was able to keep sending me on Yahoo instant messenger for at least 1/2 an hour while she was riding in a car that her fiance was driving down a highway. How common is that?
    What about the rest of the world?
    8183) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588237)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which category do you fall into, Jeffrey?

    WW + PZ... ;)

    Wild women plus Persian Zoroastrianism?
    8184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 588236)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . COUNTDOWN - 10 Days to Go Sarge SIR!!! (HAPPY FATHER'S DAY 2 U TOO)

    LOL, no, I'm not a Dad. Being picky about finding my future kids' future mom first, lol.


    precisely WHAT i Meant - *Future* Dad Obviously . . . DOH!!! ;O


    Is this a combination of the shows "Futurama" and "American Dad"? LOL. :)
    8185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588231)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The network may be failing, but I'm winning!

    Hee Haw!


    What's for dinner tonight, Grandma?



    Whatever Grandpa wants... It's Father's Day, remember?


    Did they celebrate Father's Day on Hee-Haw?
    8186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588229)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The network may be failing, but I'm winning!

    Hee Haw!


    What's for dinner tonight, Grandma?

    ("I searched the world over and thought I find true love.
    You found another and ...
    pbbbt ...
    you was gone.")
    8187) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Sorry, Pluto! You aren't even the biggest dwarf planet!!! (Message 588227)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, it means that just because a bunch of bureaucrats decide to restrict the number of planets to eight, doesn't count for diddley squat with us Plutonians.

    They weren't bureaucrats, they were scientists. Granted, not all planetary scientists agreed with them. Some for good reasons. But, there's been too much junk regarding emotions and public outcry.
    8188) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Sorry, Pluto! You aren't even the biggest dwarf planet!!! (Message 588221)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear Pluto,

    You'll always be a planet in our minds, and in our hearts.

    God Bless!


    - Beets and the Plutonians


    Does this mean fire is still an element? :)


    No, it means that just because a bunch of beaurocrats decide to restrict the number of planets to eight, doesn't count for diddley squat with us Plutonians.

    Once a planet, always a planet!


    We at the "Earth, Air, Rock, Fire - Four Elements Only Society" beg to differ with you. Stop looking for quarks and leptons, while you're at it! :)
    8189) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Sorry, Pluto! You aren't even the biggest dwarf planet!!! (Message 588218)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dear Pluto,

    You'll always be a planet in our minds, and in our hearts.

    God Bless!


    - Beets and the Plutonians


    Does this mean fire is still an element? :)
    8190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588217)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fehler: Netzwerk-Zeitüberschreitung









    Der Server unter setiathome.berkeley.edu braucht zu lange, um eine Antwort zu senden.






    * Die Website könnte vorübergehend nicht erreichbar sein, versuchen Sie es bitte später nochmals.

    * Wenn Sie auch keine andere Website aufrufen können, überprüfen Sie bitte die Netzwerk-/Internetverbindung.

    * Wenn Ihr Computer oder Netzwerk von einer Firewall oder einem Proxy geschützt wird, stellen Sie bitte sicher,
    dass Firefox auf das Internet zugreifen darf.




    As I said:

    --t----h----e-- --c----o----n----n----e----c----t----i----o----n-- --i----s-- --m----u----c----h-- --t----o-- --s----l----o----w--






    UTC Error: Network exceeding the time

    The server under setiathome.berkeley.edu needs to for a long time, in order to send an answer.

    * The Website could be temporarily not attainable, tries you please later again it.
    * Even if you can call no other Website, examine please the network/InterNet connection.
    * If your computer or network is protected by a Firewall or a Proxy, guarantee please that Firefox may access the InterNet.

    Further translation:

    The server setiathome.berkeley.edu is talking too long to reply.

    [Possiblities]

      * The network is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.
    • If you cannot connect to other websites, please check your network connection.
      * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or a proxy, please see if you can un-check "Work offline" under the Firefox drop-down menu under File. If so, un-check it, so that Firefox can work online and access the Internet.



    :)

    8191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 588207)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . COUNTDOWN - 10 Days to Go Sarge SIR!!! (HAPPY FATHER'S DAY 2 U TOO)

    LOL, no, I'm not a Dad. Being picky about finding my future kids' future mom first, lol.
    8192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 588206)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Hope your dreams all come true,
    Golden candles, Sugar bangles,
    Happy Birthday to you.

    It's just another manic monday. :)
    8193) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 588203)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, Mike the Mod. I was becoming green with envy and had to have MY birthday more recently update than yours. ;)
    8194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Beware: Bad guys run Wi-Fi networks (Message 588196)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How about seeing hpsetup in many places you go, as an unsecured computer-to-computer network, purporting a good signal strength, etc. ... ? I seem to recall running across an ad or a webpage indicating these are scams, but now websites are talking about HP printers?!? Where was such a so-called printer during most or all of my trip on an Amtrak train from Chicago to E. Lansing, MI?!?
    8195) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 588190)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think GreggyBee should be the winner.
    8196) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588188)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again :-)

    Winning while Thorin is in a hypnotic trance.

    Your no longer winning.

    No?
    8197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588157)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again :-)

    Winning while Thorin is in a hypnotic trance.
    8198) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588149)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Look, he posted over here, too, lol.
    8199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588147)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning. (Dark Lords of the Sith [no e] don't count.)
    (Message board preferences have affects on their metachlorions!)
    8200) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 588141)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oooo... A fight between unbelievers over false gods...

    This aught to be interesting... ;)


    You mean ought.
    Actually, it's boring.
    Lester just likes stretching threads with meaningless nonsense attempts to provoke people. YAAAAWWWWNNNN.


    Dont worry, his mummy will shortly be reminding him its bedtime.....

    Meaningless ? Provoke ? Facts are meaningless ? Just asking. My god might not be better than yours, but he is RICHER !


    Lester's still boring me. YAAAWWWNNN.
    I think his(?) tight pink thongs are cutting off blood circulation to his(?) brain. :)
    So, let me get this straight: you believe that I have a G/god(dess) in which I believe?
    8201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588139)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning! :P
    8202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588088)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmmm, all seems quiet in posting land ..... hee hee hee, I win.

    Nope! :P

    What, do you have a subscription to this thread now?

    Also a nope.
    All mail from Berkeley never reaches me. It's filtered. That way, snide comments are never seen. :)
    8203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588083)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmmm, all seems quiet in posting land ..... hee hee hee, I win.

    Nope! :P
    8204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Going to Cancun for a week... (Message 588061)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Beware of the Chupacabra... ;)

    Chupaneebray.
    8205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588059)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nighty night.

    It's a bit early for you to go to sleep, Jeremy. :)
    8206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588055)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    since you don't have a Green Card...you are still here illegally!!!!

    Relax... I'll be going home soon... ;)

    Will you have internet access at home? ;)
    8207) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588054)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    since you don't have a Green Card...you are still here illegally!!!!

    Relax... I'll be going home soon... ;)

    BillyHyland's getting you deported?
    8208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588053)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    since you don't have a Green Card...you are still here illegally!!!!

    Relax... I'll be going home soon... ;)

    The Rapture is at hand?!?
    8209) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Sorry, Pluto! You aren't even the biggest dwarf planet!!! (Message 588052)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070614/sc_space/dwarfplanetoutweighspluto

    Dwarf Planet Outweighs Pluto
    Ker Than
    Staff Writer
    SPACE.com Thu Jun 14, 7:15 PM ET

    The dwarf planet that effectively forced astronomers to strip Pluto of its planethood is not only bigger than the former ninth planet, but also much more massive, a new study finds.

    Michael Brown, a planetary scientist at Caltech, and his graduate student Emily Schaller have determined that Eris, discovered in 2005 by Brown and his team, is about 27 percent more massive than Pluto.

    The finding, detailed in the June 15 issue of the journal Science, also confirms Eris and Pluto have similar compositions.

    The moon holds the key

    Eris circles the sun from about 9 billion miles away-about twice the distance of Pluto at the farthest point in its orbit. Its discovery was one of several factors that led some astronomers to create a new definition for planethood at the 2006 meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in Prague. The ruling reduced the planet count in our solar system to eight and left Pluto renamed as a "dwarf planet."

    To determine Eris' mass, the researchers used the
    Hubble Space Telescope and the Keck Observatory to calculate the orbital speed of its moon, Dysnomia. According to Newtonian physics, the more massive a celestial object is, the faster its satellite will zip around it.

    "So by looking at the time it takes the moon to go around Eris, we're able to calculate the mass," Schaller said.

    Because Eris and Dysomnia are located more than 90 times farther from the sun than Earth--out in the Kuiper Belt region of the solar system, they appear as little more than pricks of light in telescope observations. "Eris is slightly larger than a point source, but just barely," Schaller said.

    Dysnomia is thought to be less than 100 miles (150 km) across and to take about 16 Earth-days to make one trip around Eris.

    Eris itself is believed to have a diameter of 1,490 to 1,860 miles (2,400 to 3,000 km). "To put that into perspective, if you took all the asteroids in the asteroid belt [between Mars and Jupiter] and multiplied by four, they would easily all fit into Eris," Schaller told SPACE.com.

    Pluto has a diameter of about 1,430 miles (2,300 km) across.

    Knowing Eris' mass and size, the researchers were also able to confirm that Eris' density is similar to that of Pluto, and that it is therefore likely made up mainly of rock and water ice.

    Born into controversy

    Formerly known as 2003 UB313, the dwarf planet was rechristened Eris (pronounced ee'-ris) by astronomers last year. The name is fitting: Eris is the Greek goddess of discord and strife, who stirred up jealousy and envy among the goddesses that led to the Trojan War. When Eris the dwarf planet was discovered, it created a furor among astronomers that led to the controversial decision last year to demote Pluto.

    While some planetary scientists still oppose the decision on grounds that the new definition of planet is not specific enough, Schaller thinks the IAU made the right choice. "I think that really only the big eight planets distinguish themselves as clearly different from all the other objects," Schaller said.

    Schaller points to the example of Ceres, a former asteroid whose naming history resembles that of Pluto. When Ceres was first discovered in 1801, it was classified as a planet on account of its large size (it is 530 miles across). But "once they started discovering more and more asteroids, it got a bit ridiculous," Schaller said.

    As with Pluto, Ceres was downgraded to the status of asteroid once scientists realized it was just the first-known of a class of rocky bodies residing mainly between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Last year, the IAU voted to reclassify Ceres as a dwarf planet, elevating it to the same ranks as Pluto and Eris.

    In the current debate surrounding Pluto, Schaller sees history repeating itself. "Pluto was discovered and for a really long time there wasn't anything else discovered," she said. "But if it had transpired in the same way to the asteroid belt where the following year many more objects were discovered, then I think we wouldn't be having this discussion right now."
    8210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588031)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just got here.


    From where? :)

    Out there!


    Sounds like the end of a Star Trek : TOS movie. :)

    Thataway!


    That way to the 900th post? :)
    8211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588025)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just got here.


    From where? :)

    Out there!


    Sounds like the end of a Star Trek : TOS movie. :)
    8212) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 588024)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Forget the long-running bipartisan concern about creating an educated, highly skilled workforce. What the U.S. economy desperately needs is more high-school dropouts — so desperately that we should import them hand over fist.


    LOL! An educated, highly skilled work force to do the same crap jobs of 30 years ago instead of the types of jobs that have arisen since then and more in the future?

    The National Research Council reports that an immigrant to the U.S. without a high-school diploma — whether legal or illegal — consumes $89,000 more in governmental services than he pays in taxes during his lifetime. An immigrant with only a high-school diploma is a net cost of $31,000. Forty percent of illegal immigrants have no more than a high-school degree, and 60 percent have less than a high-school degree.

    Assuming that the NRC can be trusted, that the writer of this article can be trusted and that Wynde can be trusted to have not altered the article, then, yes, this refutes Carlos' claim.
    8213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 588018)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I just got here.


    From where? :)
    8214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 588015)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Most laws, I do not even question whether I should follow them. Some of them, they make sense to me and so I try not to break them. Either way, I do not want to end up in jail. Furthermore, even if something is legal, that does not mean I do it. So much for someone's anarchy comment in another thread, lol.
    8215) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588013)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where do I find the links to the other 2 blog links? My myspace knowledge is basically 0.


    To the right, beneath the music player.
    8216) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 588005)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well I have been hopeing to meet a alien from another planet.Yeah its really great to try new things.I got my boots!Im still working on my music project.Check out http://www.myspace.com/01976 .All my songs can be downloaded for free.

    Its lonely out here in worlds unknown. Drop by and visit me.



    Welcome to the Cafe. I just checked out your myspace site. Pretty cool.


    Should I download some of the music?
    ( A/C, check out MY myspace music site. :) )


    I'm there :D

    I think it's alright if you dl some of his music. He says so.


    Follow my two blog links, also. :)
    8217) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 587990)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .... that people think that the rest of the world wants to listen to the noise they call music.

    http://www.myspace.com/Bill_and_Andy_Music
    LOL!
    8218) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 587985)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.myspace.com/Bill_and_Andy_Music

    (Note: bent mic jack means nasty crackling sounds on the cover of the U2 song "Sometimes You Can't Make it on Your Own.")
    8219) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 587983)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Hope your dreams all come true,
    Golden candles, Sugar bangles,
    Happy Birthday to you.


    I get "The Bangles" for my birthday?
    8220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : High! (Message 587980)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well I have been hopeing to meet a alien from another planet.Yeah its really great to try new things.I got my boots!Im still working on my music project.Check out http://www.myspace.com/01976 .All my songs can be downloaded for free.

    Its lonely out here in worlds unknown. Drop by and visit me.



    Welcome to the Cafe. I just checked out your myspace site. Pretty cool.


    Should I download some of the music?
    ( A/C, check out MY myspace music site. :) )
    8221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587979)
    Posted 17 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's another thing, been here 30 years.

    Say what?!?
    8222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587937)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Changing coordinates in August.
    8223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587913)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while breaking from packing and moving.

    Moving?

    Moving!!

    And I guess that's all the explanation we get. ;)
    8224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587894)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And therein, I think, lies the problem with the US speed limit laws being turned back over to the states about 12 years ago. If you are on an interstate that has medium to heavy traffic, there are several other drivers that go at least 5-10 mph over the limit, and enough that far exceed that. So, to be safe, even someone who would rather do the limit or maybe a little less finds themselves pushed to do at least 5-10 over the limit as well. That way, they keep with the flow of traffic, do not create a problem by going too slow and do not find people tail-gating them as much.

    Uh, that happens at any speed, regardless of where the speed limit is set. It's part of the nature of using a vehicle on public roadways.

    I don't recall it happening as much before 1995, but then I've only been driving since 1985 and the powers of observation and memory are not perfect.
    8225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rosie O'Donnell to host Price is Right? (Message 587887)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bob Barker has endorsed Rosie O'Donnell as a choice for next host of the longest running daytime game show.

    Personally, I think someone needs to shut her up and not give her any kind of forum for her stupidity.

    Thoughts?


    Maybe his "fight" with Adam Sandler about a decade ago did something to his brain. ;) ("The price is wrong, Bobby!")
    8226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587885)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while breaking from packing and moving.

    Moving?
    8227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587882)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are MANY other factors to consider besides the speed.
    <...>
    I do not recall the other guy having any injuries at all.


    If he was speeding then this causes problems with drivers within the limit, but if you had both been doing 80 then there wouldn't have been a problem.
    If both cars are doing the same speed then it doesn't matter if its 30 or 130, they still won't collide. (This is two cars heading in the same direction)


    And therein, I think, lies the problem with the US speed limit laws being turned back over to the states about 12 years ago. If you are on an interstate that has medium to heavy traffic, there are several other drivers that go at least 5-10 mph over the limit, and enough that far exceed that. So, to be safe, even someone who would rather do the limit or maybe a little less finds themselves pushed to do at least 5-10 over the limit as well. That way, they keep with the flow of traffic, do not create a problem by going too slow and do not find people tail-gating them as much.
    8228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587841)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If two cars hit at 50, the occupants are usually certifiably dead, so whats really the difference between hitting at 50 and hitting at, say, 80?
    Its perfectly simple to keep a car on the straight and narrow at 90mph, so if its a reasonably straight road whats the problem?

    Typically in a head on collision at least one of the vehicles has some time to get slowed (at least a bit). This is why most collisions happen at below 35 MPH. This is why child seats are specified to survive and protect the child at up to 35 MPH (stupidly they are not tested at this speed).

    The 55 MPH limit makes some sort of sense in congested areas around cities, but none at all in rural areas. I believe that New Mexico has a speed limit of 80 on rural interstates. For a time Montana had a "safe and reasonable" requirement on speeds on rural interstates. Before 1973, Nevada had no speed limit on many of its roads.

    By the way, on which type of road are you more likely to die, a city interstate, a city street, a rural interstate, or a rural road?


    Don't we often here most accidents occur within a mile of home? Is it true? And, if so, what sorts of roads tend to be within a mile of most homes. That could lead to the answer to your question.

    As for Montana, an ex-g/f told me when she lived there, her ex-husband would do 100 mph outside of Bozeman.
    8229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : JFK....what do YOU believe??? (Message 587832)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, you are conspiracy theorist

    Actually, I have my own theory about 911, and I can assure you, it's like none you've heard before...

    To answer your next question: It ain't gonna happen on these boards... ;)


    Ha ha! I've figured you out well enough to know we would not see your theory here. Unfortunately, that means you will continue to be persecuted and no one can help you with making sense to others. Catch-22. Enjoy.
    8230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587830)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gandhi refused to follow certain laws, and he did that to bring attention to their immorality, but critical to his action was his willingness to take the consequences. Most people don't apply that aspect of "civil disobedience".
    Kind of like "passive resistances" and bans. ;)

    True enough. If someone is banned from these boards for not following the rules, especially if they purposely violated the rules to bring attention to some perceived unfairness, then that person should be willing to take the punishment, that is, remain banned. Otherwise, they are just acting like spoiled brats, throwing a tantrum and trying and get their way.

    I don't know of any repealed bans except for two way back in late September. :) Just remember, now, folks! No Marzipan cake stuff, lol! But, if you get banned for posting them, because they link to pix of unclothed dolls with upper body female body parts showing, you can become a mod a few months later. ;)
    8231) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587827)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If two cars hit at 50, the occupants are usually certifiably dead, so whats really the difference between hitting at 50 and hitting at, say, 80?
    Its perfectly simple to keep a car on the straight and narrow at 90mph, so if its a reasonably straight road whats the problem?

    There are MANY other factors to consider besides the speed.
    In 1994, I was traveling through West Virginia, on my way back from a job interview (not in West Virginia), and was struck from behind. I was probably about 2 miles per hour above or below the speed limit, which, if I remember correctly, was 65 mph. Two truck drivers ( lorrie drivers, for you Brits ;) ) said the guy that hit me had to be doing at least 80. It was fun finding out concrete helps a car bounce, listening to Dream Theater ("Under a Silver Moon") continue to play until the car stopped spinning, etc. ... . Even more fun was finding the several foot long spray from my toothpaste tube under a truck. But the best was when the other guy's car caught fire many many minutes later. Oh, and he was drunk. But, as for injuries? A scratch on the back of one of my hands that a little while later started to look like a heart and was still visible for a year. I do not recall the other guy having any injuries at all.
    8232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : JFK....what do YOU believe??? (Message 587794)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But the Official Version of Kennedy's assassination stunk to high heaven, so I did some investigation.

    Wanna tackle the 911 conspiracy next? ;)

    So, you are conspiracy theorist, eh? I knew it!
    8233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587790)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning!

    Climbing Jeremy's back to win. :)
    8234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587787)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In 1995 it was repealed, returning the power of setting speed limits to the states.
    Labbie is correct. The point of the thread was to compare to other threads, where laws are being equated with "right and wrong."
    8235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Is to follow the laws always right? (Message 587786)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gandhi refused to follow certain laws, and he did that to bring attention to their immorality, but critical to his action was his willingness to take the consequences. Most people don't apply that aspect of "civil disobedience".
    Kind of like "passive resistances" and bans. ;)
    8236) Message boards : SETI@home Science : what is the hottest (temperature) element/celestial body ever hypothesized? (Message 587785)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back in the sixties (or whenever we blew up our last- or one of our later- hydrogen bomb(s)) Life Magazine said ..Five Times Hotter Than the Center of the Sun" and said that the temperature of (the center?) of that fireball was about 100,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit (about 55,555,555C). So the center of the Sun is much hotter than its surface. I even recently read (in the past decade or so) the the center of the Earth might be hotter than the surface of the Sun.

    Do you recall where you read this?
    I read within the past 1-2 months an article in Discover magazine about different theories about the core of the Earth (and layers above it, as well), but I do not think there was any suggestion of the core being much hotter than the surface of the Sun ... ?
    8237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : vista good or bad? (Message 587776)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The first manufacturer to produce a pc with upgradeable cpu's, chip sets and ram will make a fortune.
    Right on! Then again, other parts would need replacing, sooner or later, as well.
    8238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 587749)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL.. What about the Calm Chaos Thong KM?

    Lester is the only one who would buy it. In pink.
    8239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : vista good or bad? (Message 587746)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Vista:
    Good or bad?
    Right or wrong?
    Legal or illegal?
    Good or sin?
    LOL. :)
    8240) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587742)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BillyHyland seems to think that I was stating something about whether illegal immigration is right or wrong. He could not be more wrong. It should be easy to see that my points were about equating right and wrong with legal and illegal and that these are not the same. End of lesson.
    8241) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587637)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    it must be poet's day
    that's why i feel this way
    nothing much left to say
    it must be poet's day

    who do you think i am?
    do you still give a damn?
    sending me all your spam
    do you still give a damn?


    Anyone else receiving at least 200 spam e-mails a day on most days over, say, the last 2-3 months?

    Try more like over 400, and that happend about 2 weeks ago, since then, I get roughly 150/day.


    190 in a period of 36 hours so far.
    8242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587634)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Peter Gabriel in an 'extended play' mode: " . . . i can hEar iT comin'"


    In the air tonight?
    Knocking at your back door?
    Empire?
    :)
    8243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587633)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sarge_II" wrote:
    http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=dad98b5a-a8c3-4c34-b6ce-9143cee02bf1&entry=index&sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

    Madonna, although her pay is only a piddling $72 million these days, received the most press out of all the celebrities listed, had the second-biggest Internet showing, and came in at number three. (Ranked on her biceps alone, she would have been number one, of course.)


    And Wynde thought people could tell the difference between large numbers. LOL!
    8244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587475)
    Posted 16 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning! :)
    8245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587448)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Gosh... You people really know how to destroy a thread... ;)

    Jeff, in this case, it's you with the reading comprehension problem. ;) You yourself said it quite nicely and succinctly when referring to being legal-minded versus moral-minded. We have since been discussing that, though Wynde seemed to miss two things:

      The bit about the difference between $6 billion and $50 billion was said slightly facetiously.
      People DO have difficulty seeing much of a difference when the numbers are beyond what they can comprehend.



    (We could make a separate thread for countably infinite, cardinality c, cardinality of power sets, cardinality of power sets of sets already infinite, the continuum hypothesis, etc. ... .)

    8246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587444)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sure. Why not? Total Anarchy rules! Because of the way you've put it, who needs laws anyway?

    That's a huge extrapolation. It's Rush, and maybe R/B, that are the libertarians, remember?

    Which, of course, does not mean they are anarchists.


    Oops, sorry, I myself erroneously and distractedly extrapolated to equate libertarians with anarchists.
    8247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587438)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    825, Sarge is alive.
    8248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587437)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know where you're going with this...............


    Don't take offense, msattler. I created this thread because others were not seeing my point about the differences between

      Good and bad ideas
      Legal and illegal
      Right and wrong
      (and, for the religious/spiritual-minded) Good and evil/sin.

    8249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Web inventor gets Queen's honour (Message 587436)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The joke is years old, but I do not recall having seen/read that article/interview/speech/press conference. :)


    Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN's 'Late Edition


    Nice find!

    But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.


    Next question is, where was he during the predecessors to the Internet, such as ArpaNet? I suspect he had nothing to do with it. Follow-up question is, DID he have anything to do with the initiative surrounding creating the Internet, as opposed to actually creating it.
    8250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587421)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning. :-)

    Nope. :)

    Yes, I am :-)

    Maybe.
    8251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587420)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Cool we in germany are driving as fast as we can.
    My car around 250 KPH.

    That's just WRONG! You should go to JAIL! With Paris Hilton!!!
    (Just kidding.)
    8252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587407)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning. :-)

    Nope. :)
    8253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Web inventor gets Queen's honour (Message 587405)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The inventor of the world wide web has been awarded the Order of Merit, one of the UK's most prestigious honours.


    I Thought that was Al Gore ;)


    I was going to make that joke! :) What is the etymology of that joke, anyway? :)



    Gore said he invented the internet in an article or interview/speech/press conference. Years ago.


    The joke is years old, but I do not recall having seen/read that article/interview/speech/press conference. :)
    8254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speed limits (Message 587375)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well?
    8255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587371)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning. :-)

    Nope.
    8256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587367)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== sends Beets and Thorin to the "Illegal Immigration" thread.
    8257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587363)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll re-read it later.
    I think the larger issue is not what you and Carlos have posted. The larger issue is what we label as right and wrong, etc. ... . As I said, what's legal or illegal is not the same as what's right and wrong.


    Sure. Why not? Total Anarchy rules! Because of the way you've put it, who needs laws anyway?


    That's a huge extrapolation. It's Rush, and maybe R/B, that are the libertarians, remember?


    Bless you Wynde......


    ...... hands Wynde Kleenex. :)
    8258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587357)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll re-read it later.
    I think the larger issue is not what you and Carlos have posted. The larger issue is what we label as right and wrong, etc. ... . As I said, what's legal or illegal is not the same as what's right and wrong.


    Sure. Why not? Total Anarchy rules! Because of the way you've put it, who needs laws anyway?


    That's a huge extrapolation. It's Rush, and maybe R/B, that are the libertarians, remember?
    8259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587338)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2003 db michel


    Your a really noisy lad ...

    Concorde on take off, using reheats, was only able to generate 128 dB


    Unfortunately some posters could treble that....


    It gets harder to hit the high notes with age. :)
    8260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587335)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2003 db michel


    Your a really noisy lad ...

    Concorde on take off, using reheats, was only able to generate 128 dB


    Oh, Danny Boy? :)
    8261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Web inventor gets Queen's honour (Message 587334)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The inventor of the world wide web has been awarded the Order of Merit, one of the UK's most prestigious honours.


    I Thought that was Al Gore ;)


    I was going to make that joke! :) What is the etymology of that joke, anyway? :)
    8262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587326)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll re-read it later.
    I think the larger issue is not what you and Carlos have posted. The larger issue is what we label as right and wrong, etc. ... . As I said, what's legal or illegal is not the same as what's right and wrong.
    8263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587308)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I’m off to work
    And I haven’t the time
    To come up with
    A half descent rhyme

    That's a crime. :(
    8264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587306)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You apparently missed the point.
    How about this hot-button issue?
    Abortion was illegal. Now, in most cases, it is not. So, does that make it "right"?
    8265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587294)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To immigrate illegally is, by definition, to break the law.

    Breaking the law is, by definition, wrong.

    This means that illegal immigration is wrong.

    End of lesson.


    What is a good or a bad idea?
    What is legal or illegal?
    What is right or wrong?
    What is good and what is a sin?

    Illegal = wrong? Sorry, I do not think so.

    Many examples could be discussed. The legal drinking age in the USA was 18. Now it's 21. So, was it wrong for all those 18-20 year olds to be drinking before the age was raised? It sounds to me it was more about legislating over good and bad ideas, not what's right and wrong. There are people who are 21, 30, 50 and so on who still cannot handle alcohol well. Are there people who handle it well? Could any of those people be 18? Even 16? Not that I'd want to find out. I've seen enough people who cannot handle it that it seems like a bad idea to let someone 16 or 18 drink alcohol. So, now it's a law: no alcohol for people in the USA before 21. But does it make it wrong if someone drinks it before 21? Nope. It's illegal and worse it could be a very bad idea for that person.
    8266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587293)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the language of this country is English??

    It is? The America I used to know welcomed diversity...

    As of late, I'm quite ashamed to be called an American... And the worst part is, most Americans don't even see how ugly they've become... ;)


    Jeffrey...
    I am PROUD to be an American. And I don't mind diversity. Or immigration. My granparent were all immigrants. But they did it legally.
    The root question/problem is about all the ILLEGAL immigrants in this country right now, what they are sucking out of the social services of this country, and what we should do with the whole lot of them.


    I am Hispanic and have followed this issue closely. My family settled in California before it was part of the US. I am a seventh generation California. Let me first say that I agree that something must be done to stop or at the very least control illegal immigration.

    However, I detest the use of mis-information in support of immigration reform. Msattler, I am not blaming you for your post or the statement about abuse of social services. The mis-information seems to come from the press and other "reputable" sources. It is often claimed that illegal immigrants get free medical services, free education, free, etc all at our expense. That is not true.

    The truth is that illegal immigrants are paying much more than they receive. How is this possible? The vast majority, nearly 100%, of employers require a social security number before they hire someone. Some illegal aliens have valid social security numbers, very few, others have fake ones. Employers withhold taxes from the paychecks of all employees, legal or not. The withholding are reported and paid to the appropriate agency by employers. You and I file our tax returns and get our refund. The vast majority of illegal aliens, especially the ones with fake social security numbers, do not. The IRS reports that they receive billions of dollars annually from people with fake social security numbers. The Social Security administration stashes the money received from fake number in an “earnings suspense file”. This earning suspense file is growing on average by more than $50 billion a year. The non-partisan National Research Council found that on average over their lifetime, an illegal immigrant will contribute $80,000 more in taxes than they consume in services.
    There are a number of reasons for cracking down of illegal immigration, but free social services is not one of them. Please don't spread the myth.


    Your figures are way off and it's not just illegals that pay into the ESF.

    What happens to the money assigned to people using false identities, or names matched with the wrong Social Security Number (SSN), or newlyweds who forgot to register their name changes with the Social Security administration?

    The answer lies in a little-known aspect of the Social Security behemoth known as the Earnings Suspense File (ESF).

    The ESF has become a hotbed for debate over everything from immigration rights to identity theft, as it continues to accrue money at roughly $6 billion a year, with the total as of 2005 sitting at $519 billion.

    I'd say that's quite a bit shy of $50 billion.




    I'd say to most normal human beings, even with the 44 billion dollar difference, since most us cannot conceive of dealing with either 6 billion or 50 billion dollars at once, it starts to seem pretty close together. Another number close to those two is forty-two gajazillion.


    I guess you're right. 6 bucks is about equal to 50 bucks.


    No, most people can tell the difference between those two. Except for young children, people can appreciate having either $6 or $50 and can tell the difference between what they can get with each amount.

    The differences probably blur in the other case, because each is so incomprehensibly huge to most people.

    The non-partisan National Research Council found that on average over their lifetime, an illegal immigrant will contribute $80,000 more in taxes than they consume in services.


    Let's take the ratio of $6 billion/$50 billion. Knock off the billions, as you did. 6/50 = 12/100 or 12%. What's 12% of $80,000? It's $9,600. If it is roughly appropriate to apply that ratio, then that still means an illegal immigrant contributes $9,600 more in taxes than they consume in services. Either way, $9,600 or $80,000 doesn't sound too good to me.
    8267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587265)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winneroooooooo

    There's not enough rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
    for you
    on the podium too.
    8268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587262)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Hungry Years

    remind me of the hungry years
    raucous laughter and bitter tears
    up all night to greet the dawn
    so far out to almost gone

    remind me of the misspent days
    bend my ears with treasured ways
    hand me down a cup of old
    makes today seem dead and cold

    remind me of the way we were
    pockets empty but we had more
    crazy dreams that float like clouds
    we were poor but we were proud

    2005 db michel


    Dream Theater
    Falling into Infinity
    4. Hollow Years
    [Lyrics: John Petrucci]

    He's just the kind of man
    You hear about
    Who leaves his family
    For an easy out
    They never saw the signs
    He never said a word
    He couldn't take another day

    Carry me to the shoreline
    Bury me in the sand
    Walk me across the water
    And maybe you'll understand

    Once the stone
    You're crawling under
    Is lifted off your shoulders
    Once the cloud that's raining
    Over you head disappears
    The noise that you'll hear
    Is the crashing down of hollow years

    She's not the kind of girl
    You hear about
    She'll never want another
    She'll never be without
    She'll give you all the signs
    She'll tell you everything
    Then turn around and walk away

    Carry me to the shoreline
    Bury me in the sand
    Walk me across the water
    And maybe you'll understand

    Once the stone
    You're crawling under
    Is lifted off your shoulders
    Once the cloud that's raining
    Over you head disappears
    The noise that you'll hear
    Is the crashing down of hollow years

    Carry me to the shoreline
    Bury me in the sand
    Walk me across the water
    And maybe you'll understand

    Once the stone
    You're crawling under
    Is lifted off your shoulders
    Once the cloud that's raining
    Over you head disappears
    The noise that you'll hear
    Is the crashing down of hollow years
    8269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587257)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning Kenzie.

    You back from work?

    It's a strange world, this time zone thing, and getting to grips what part of the day you are at!

    UTC-8 was it?

    This would mean it is about 2.00 am your way?

    It's easier for Mike and myself ... the UK is on daylight saving (BST) which puts me about 1 hour behind him!


    Nope, she's UTC-7.
    8270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587255)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    the language of this country is English??

    It is? The America I used to know welcomed diversity...

    As of late, I'm quite ashamed to be called an American... And the worst part is, most Americans don't even see how ugly they've become... ;)


    Jeffrey...
    I am PROUD to be an American. And I don't mind diversity. Or immigration. My granparent were all immigrants. But they did it legally.
    The root question/problem is about all the ILLEGAL immigrants in this country right now, what they are sucking out of the social services of this country, and what we should do with the whole lot of them.


    I am Hispanic and have followed this issue closely. My family settled in California before it was part of the US. I am a seventh generation California. Let me first say that I agree that something must be done to stop or at the very least control illegal immigration.

    However, I detest the use of mis-information in support of immigration reform. Msattler, I am not blaming you for your post or the statement about abuse of social services. The mis-information seems to come from the press and other "reputable" sources. It is often claimed that illegal immigrants get free medical services, free education, free, etc all at our expense. That is not true.

    The truth is that illegal immigrants are paying much more than they receive. How is this possible? The vast majority, nearly 100%, of employers require a social security number before they hire someone. Some illegal aliens have valid social security numbers, very few, others have fake ones. Employers withhold taxes from the paychecks of all employees, legal or not. The withholding are reported and paid to the appropriate agency by employers. You and I file our tax returns and get our refund. The vast majority of illegal aliens, especially the ones with fake social security numbers, do not. The IRS reports that they receive billions of dollars annually from people with fake social security numbers. The Social Security administration stashes the money received from fake number in an “earnings suspense file”. This earning suspense file is growing on average by more than $50 billion a year. The non-partisan National Research Council found that on average over their lifetime, an illegal immigrant will contribute $80,000 more in taxes than they consume in services.
    There are a number of reasons for cracking down of illegal immigration, but free social services is not one of them. Please don't spread the myth.


    Your figures are way off and it's not just illegals that pay into the ESF.

    What happens to the money assigned to people using false identities, or names matched with the wrong Social Security Number (SSN), or newlyweds who forgot to register their name changes with the Social Security administration?

    The answer lies in a little-known aspect of the Social Security behemoth known as the Earnings Suspense File (ESF).

    The ESF has become a hotbed for debate over everything from immigration rights to identity theft, as it continues to accrue money at roughly $6 billion a year, with the total as of 2005 sitting at $519 billion.

    I'd say that's quite a bit shy of $50 billion.




    I'd say to most normal human beings, even with the 44 billion dollar difference, since most us cannot conceive of dealing with either 6 billion or 50 billion dollars at once, it starts to seem pretty close together. Another number close to those two is forty-two gajazillion.
    8271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587253)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    End of lesson.

    Being a God fearing man such as yourself, I would have thought that you might have wanted to help them rather than kick them to the curb...

    I feel sorry for any stray animals or homeless persons that may illegally and unknowingly wander onto your property in search of a little compassion...


    Thanks for the 'legal' lesson, but I prefer the 'moral' lessons... ;)


    He shoots the stray illegal kitty cats.
    8272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 587251)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To immigrate illegally is, by definition, to break the law.

    Breaking the law is, by definition, wrong.

    This means that illegal immigration is wrong.

    End of lesson.


    LOL!
    Ha ha ha!
    Man, this is hilarious.
    "Breaking the law is, by definition, wrong"?!?
    Holy CRAAAAP!!!
    BillyHyland, you are HIGH-LARRY-OUS!
    If breaking the law was wrong, no laws would ever change, get repealed, no new laws would be added and there'd be no lessons in the "sacred" books about balancing living under G/god(s) laws and humanity's laws.
    LOL.
    Man, you are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo funny.
    8273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Simple Moments. (Message 587249)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Huh? Single mothers with large oranges from Mars?
    Oh! Simple moments in large oceans on Mars!
    :)
    8274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 587247)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nightmare wears pink Speedos under his cape ! Yeah, I'm bored

    No, you're boring. YAAAWWWNNN. See ya in another couple months.
    8275) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 587246)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oooo... A fight between unbelievers over false gods...

    This aught to be interesting... ;)


    You mean ought.
    Actually, it's boring.
    Lester just likes stretching threads with meaningless nonsense attempts to provoke people. YAAAAWWWWNNNN.
    8276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587117)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    it must be poet's day
    that's why i feel this way
    nothing much left to say
    it must be poet's day

    who do you think i am?
    do you still give a damn?
    sending me all your spam
    do you still give a damn?


    Anyone else receiving at least 200 spam e-mails a day on most days over, say, the last 2-3 months?
    8277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : World Crisis Maps (Message 587115)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Instead of pictures that stretch the thread automatically, you could of course offer all of these as links.
    So people have a choice if they want to load the pictures, or not.

    Or, you can go to your account and change your preferences so that you only see the images if you click a link.
    On the other, Beets, the resolution is not so great when I do click the links. I guess these have been saved at your PhotoBucket account. Any chance you could link us directly to where you found these?
    8278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 587076)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . COUNTDOWN - 12 Days to Go

    [Singing]It's the final countdown ...[/Singing]
    Man, Europe's lyrics could be a bit lame. ;)
    8279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 587075)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I krept in and ...

    BAAARR-WUP-POP-POP-FUT! FUT! FUT! PEERRRIPONE-WUP-POOOT!


    Was that a poot?
    Is that thread now mute or moot?
    8280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 587070)
    Posted 15 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HA few months ago scholars thought the city of Troy was just a myth.
    It was my understanding that Heinrich Schliemann found Troy around one century ago.
    [EDIT: I heard that reported back in November or December of 1999.]
    8281) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mystery Solved: Mars Had Large Oceans (Message 586989)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL@asking if Misfit might be from Mars.

    OK, why must there be lightening within an atmosphere?

    More importantly, if memory serves me correctly, yes, lightening plays a part in the formation of amino acids. But aren't there several other factors to consider in that formation?

    Anyway, that's not rambling. Haven't these ideas been heard before?
    8282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586977)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again.
    Nein. Du verlierst.
    Do you think so.
    Jawohl. Ich tun.


    You only think so.

    Bad translator BTW.
    The answer is

    Ja ich weiss es.


    Doesn't "Ich tun" mean "I do."? As in, "Yes. I do." Short for "Yes. I do think so." "Ich weiss es" would either mean "I know it" or "I think it."

    [EDIT: No translator was used. :P]


    No german says "Ich tun" sometimes "Ich tue"

    gramatically correct but no one is using it any more.


    Warum nicht? :)


    Why is water wet.


    It just is. :P
    8283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586969)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again.
    Nein. Du verlierst.
    Do you think so.
    Jawohl. Ich tun.


    You only think so.

    Bad translator BTW.
    The answer is

    Ja ich weiss es.


    Doesn't "Ich tun" mean "I do."? As in, "Yes. I do." Short for "Yes. I do think so." "Ich weiss es" would either mean "I know it" or "I think it."

    [EDIT: No translator was used. :P]


    No german says "Ich tun" sometimes "Ich tue"

    gramatically correct but no one is using it any more.


    Warum nicht? :)
    8284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586963)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again.
    Nein. Du verlierst.
    Do you think so.
    Jawohl. Ich tun.


    You only think so.

    Bad translator BTW.
    The answer is

    Ja ich weiss es.


    Doesn't "Ich tun" mean "I do."? As in, "Yes. I do." Short for "Yes. I do think so." "Ich weiss es" would either mean "I know it" or "I think it."

    [EDIT: No translator was used. :P]
    8285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586956)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again.
    Nein. Du verlierst.
    Do you think so.
    Jawohl. Ich tun.
    8286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586951)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning again.
    Nein. Du verlierst.
    8287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 586933)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Paris in Jail" video.
    8288) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Why the SETI telescopes can't locate a signal?" (Message 586916)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    On the other hand, what is the likelihood of receiving a signal versus the likelihood of ETI's capabilities to travel interstellar distances?
    8289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586914)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:



    winning !!!!





    For 2-3 minutes? :)
    8290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586910)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Got it.
    So, perhaps a normal USB Key would not work this way, but some of these newer ones do?
    Prices look decent.
    8291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586907)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have a good break, and we will keep winning, and closking up the hours, until you return. By then this thread and It's replacement should be history!

    Remember TLPTPW # 36!!

    Winning again then Dan, or just readying yourself for Skype?

    Skype comes on every time i plug in my USB key...Thanks for reminding me....Now on to victory.


    Why would it do that? Mine just auto-starts when I boot up the laptop or PC at the office. (Then again, there's been the rare, seemingly random, occurrence, where it does not auto-start.)

    On the computer based version of Skype there is an option to start the program when Windows starts...But as of yet i have not found a way to stop Skype from launching when i launch the U3 system to use Firefox from the USB key...As long as i don't launch the U3 system i'm OK.


    You lost me at "U3." What is that?
    Using Firefox from a USB key: is this from a particular computer where you do not have the Firefox program installed on the hard drive and you're able to run the program from the USB? If so, I've never tried that. I suppose some programs installed to a USB, if possible, would keep some hard drive space clear.
    8292) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Mystery Solved: Mars Had Large Oceans (Message 586861)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cool!
    thx for the good read!
    You're welcome! :)
    8293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586858)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have a good break, and we will keep winning, and closking up the hours, until you return. By then this thread and It's replacement should be history!

    Remember TLPTPW # 36!!

    Winning again then Dan, or just readying yourself for Skype?

    Skype comes on every time i plug in my USB key...Thanks for reminding me....Now on to victory.


    Why would it do that? Mine just auto-starts when I boot up the laptop or PC at the office. (Then again, there's been the rare, seemingly random, occurrence, where it does not auto-start.)
    8294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586851)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Rut roh, Thorin just logged off. :)
    8295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586850)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning at work.
    Working at winning.
    8296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586848)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while finally headed out of here. Georgia here I come! See you all in a week to ten days. Someone please keep the birthday threads counting down for me!!! Thankx, gotta go.

    I was in Georgia in early May, but for only 1-2 days. :(
    8297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Illegal immigration................right or wrong?? (Message 586798)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which Way To America
    by Living Colour
    album: Vivid (1988)

    I look at the T.V.
    Your America's doing well
    I look out the window
    My America's catching hell

    I just want to know which way do I go to get to your America?
    I just want to know which way do I go to get to your America?

    I change the channel
    Your America's doing fine
    I read the headlines
    My America's doing time

    I just want to know which way do I go to get to your America?
    I just want to know which way do I go to get to your America?

    Go west young, go west young man

    Don't want to crossover
    But how do I keep from going under?

    Where is my picket fence?
    My long, tall glass of lemonade?
    Where is my VCR, my stereo, my T.V. show?

    I look at the T.V.
    I don't see your America
    I look out the window
    I don't see your America

    I want to know how to get to your America
    I want to know how to get to your America
    America
    8298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586782)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had to wake up to knock Sarge off the podium.

    Having done that Dune slowly trudges off to bed.


    Back to podium for me. :)

    You are feeling very sleepy...one more hour of sleep...can't stay awake.


    Not working. :)
    8299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586764)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had to wake up to knock Sarge off the podium.

    Having done that Dune slowly trudges off to bed.


    Back to podium for me. :)
    8300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586597)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the early evening @ 16 degC.

    (9*16/5)+32=60 or 61 degrees F, rounded. :P
    [EDIT: I think you got the better deal, compared to Stacey Jane, spelled with an E, also known as Knute.)

    Well it was great for a jump in the river though, cool water very refreshed now.

    Misfit wants pictures. ;)
    ( Oh, wait, who am I to say what Misfit wants? :) )

    We know Misfit though, and he's not getting any.

    Thats cause he is Ugly.....

    Looking crazy at stop my ugly you man.
    8301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586580)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the early evening @ 16 degC.

    (9*16/5)+32=60 or 61 degrees F, rounded. :P
    [EDIT: I think you got the better deal, compared to Stacey Jane, spelled with an E, also known as Knute.)

    Well it was great for a jump in the river though, cool water very refreshed now.

    Misfit wants pictures. ;)
    ( Oh, wait, who am I to say what Misfit wants? :) )

    We know Misfit though, and he's not getting any.

    Oh, my. :)
    8302) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 586562)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=38865&nowrap=true#550794
    Any links or data from anyone else or has the hissing section grown far to large for practical conversation ¿.

    MrGray, I check some of these video posts. I simply haven't got the time to look at all of them. It would be wonderful to find one that is quite convincing. I just think none of them have convinced me yet. And the guy from Mexico that used to be their equivalent of Dan Rather seems to have simply become some New Age guru. What's up with the music they add to their presentations, for example?!? Just show the videos, if they are convincing. No need for music added, as if it helps us reach a higher consciousness.
    8303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586561)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the early evening @ 16 degC.

    (9*16/5)+32=60 or 61 degrees F, rounded. :P
    [EDIT: I think you got the better deal, compared to Stacey Jane, spelled with an E, also known as Knute.)

    Well it was great for a jump in the river though, cool water very refreshed now.

    Misfit wants pictures. ;)
    ( Oh, wait, who am I to say what Misfit wants? :) )
    8304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 586556)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    69

    Straight from the dictionary:

    69
    adj : being nine more than sixty.


    Who'd of thought... ;)


    Jeff, have a Killian's! :P

    Is he Irish?


    LOL!
    If YOU have to ask ... look it up. :P
    8305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 586555)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    69

    Straight from the dictionary:

    69
    adj : being nine more than sixty.


    Who'd of thought... ;)

    The ironic thing is (I think). that if you're unable to understand that meaning of 69 what's the likelihood that you can read a dictionary? LOL


    Oh, my.
    In the coffee shop I frequently frequent ... yesterday ... the barista said it was hot and I disagreed. She said the thermostat was set for 69. I said it was not hot and said she should be psychoanalyzed for what she'd set the thermostat too. Look of shock on her face, LOL!
    8306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586553)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the early evening @ 16 degC.

    (9*16/5)+32=60 or 61 degrees F, rounded. :P
    [EDIT: I think you got the better deal, compared to Stacey Jane, spelled with an E, also known as Knute.)
    8307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 586551)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    69

    Straight from the dictionary:

    69
    adj : being nine more than sixty.


    Who'd of thought... ;)


    Jeff, have a Killian's! :P
    8308) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 586550)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My god is better than yours. Wanna go to WAR about it ?

    No. Have fun trying to find somebody who will.

    It's always been easy. So wars over religion are over. Whose god won ?

    Nobody's. :P
    8309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fun with Numbers (Message 586539)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fun is I will hit 200000 soon! :P
    8310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OMG MySQL is overloading! (Message 586537)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    well I mean it was a lil shock when they boast about how unlimited everything is, then that happens... the MySQL database was 18GBs in size after I finished with it... and apparently, UNLIMITED only means 750MB with them lol!

    I still say you're a naughty boy.
    8311) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 586533)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My god is better than yours. Wanna go to WAR about it ?

    No. Have fun trying to find somebody who will.
    8312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586523)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning after a refreshing swim and 40 degree heat (that's Celcius).

    Holy crap! F=(9C/5)+32, so 104 degrees Fahrhenheit?!?

    Yeah, hottie is sort of an understatement ... scorcher is more like it!!! And wearing coveralls gets really sticky.

    It's only been in the low to high 80s around here, so far as I know.
    8313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586516)
    Posted 14 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning after a refreshing swim and 40 degree heat (that's Celcius).

    Holy crap! F=(9C/5)+32, so 104 degrees Fahrhenheit?!?
    8314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Well Wishes for Tiare Arroway Rivera Taiba (Message 586475)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oooh, plans, huh? ;)
    8315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586425)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    winning while learned a lot today.

    Interests are changing like the wind by the most.
    I thought some where different but i was wrong.
    I´m really sorry.


    What do you mean?
    8316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586415)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sir, we've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals!"
    "What?"
    "We've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals! How do you feel about this?"
    Long pause ... .
    "ANGRY!!!"

    What is it with fake coffee flavored water with no caffeine?

    That's what I am talking about?!? :)
    8317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586414)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while at work!

    Makes a call to Reno using Skype with a supposed Reno area-code, making Jeremy think there's a wild party going on next door ... .
    Phone call includes making weird loud background noises like on Mrs. Doubtfire, followed by shrieking like Michael Jackson, roaring like James Hetfield and finally, an Eminem rap.
    Jeremy shakes head, plans to send police to caller's house to arrest caller. Jeremy cannot track down caller, because he's not really in Reno. :) Jeremy ... ANGRY! Goes all Chris Farley like.

    ROFLMAO!!!



    hmmmm... I wonder if this alleged Skype Incident also works for Vonage VoIP... Untraceable phone service... This could be really cool! 8-D


    Winning, again!!! 8-D



    I could call TimeLord on Skype, where I am not ignored, but here on SETI, I am ignored. :)
    8318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@Home homepage news, June 12th (Message 586413)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PTB?
    8319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586412)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Right behavior is rewarded. Wrong behavior will be punished."

    Reminiscing about the way things 'should be', are we? ;)

    No, it's Star Trek, so isn't that the way things will be? ( Siran, jump in on this one! :) )
    It's not Rush Limbaugh's "The Way Things Ought to Be." :)
    8320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586304)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . rEally DARK ESPRESSO coming UP!!! from Tangiers, MOROCCO

    . . . i can sEE your EyEs brightin' alrEady



    YUMMY! Coffee, espresso, a rare mocha! (Too many mochas adds 40 pounds.)
    8321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586303)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nightie night @ all!

    WINNING, again :-D


    11 minutes later, I think you are still awake.


    Poor guy forgot to log out.

    Yap

    Wonder if I should make his computer chirp with the "chime up" sound? :)

    Don't even dare :-P


    btw: winning!


    Oh, I dare. Believe me. I dare. :)
    8322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586302)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    The a galaxy far, far away...well actually in a third world place
    called Manchester, England to Dark Side touched down at 0920 GMT in GMT.

    Congratulations Ambassador Darth on your safe landing. Mothership computer HAL2 alert: "Do not stand midfield in the stadium when a Manchester United game is in progress".

    Good Luck in your explorations!


    Do not land during a Cricket game traveling on a Chesterfield sofa.
    "Eddie's in the space-time continuum."
    "Ah, he is, is he? Well, I hope he's having a splashing good time in there!"
    Oh, no, killer Cricket plays from the planet Krikkit!
    8323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586297)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    LOL Admit it! You can be quite the hero when you put your mind to it.


    Jeez, don't encourage him pleeeeeeze.....

    You know you'll regret it..


    "Right behavior is rewarded. Wrong behavior will be punished."
    --- Star Trek, "The Menagerie"
    8324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586245)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sir, we've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals!"
    "What?"
    "We've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals! How do you feel about this?"
    Long pause ... .
    "ANGRY!!!"

    I love my coffee crystals...don't you dare replace them with real coffee!

    LOL!
    8325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 586244)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Ga7FEzePY.

    And what has that got to do with red rain?
    OK, so a very nice shaky vid of Venus.
    Nothing better or more certain than that example?!
    (None of the usual fuzzy crap please.)
    Keep searchin',
    Martin

    I do not think it was meant to have to do with the sub-discussion of red rain.
    I didn't find the video all that informative or impressive, either.
    8326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586226)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Sir, we've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals!"
    "What?"
    "We've just replaced your regular coffee with decaffeinated crystals! How do you feel about this?"
    Long pause ... .
    "ANGRY!!!"
    8327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586225)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while at work!

    Makes a call to Reno using Skype with a supposed Reno area-code, making Jeremy think there's a wild party going on next door ... .
    Phone call includes making weird loud background noises like on Mrs. Doubtfire, followed by shrieking like Michael Jackson, roaring like James Hetfield and finally, an Eminem rap.
    Jeremy shakes head, plans to send police to caller's house to arrest caller. Jeremy cannot track down caller, because he's not really in Reno. :) Jeremy ... ANGRY! Goes all Chris Farley like.

    ROFLMAO!!!

    Maybe that could give you an idea for a new avatar? :)

    I'm not good at making avatar's, maybe when the Captain comes back and is in full swing again can make me a new one. :-)

    Sarge angry over absence Captain!
    8328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586220)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think it's right to rant about the software another boinc-related system runs. I do believe it's best left to the Boinc Boards...it's software related---not Cafe related but that's my opinion. :)

    Life goes on....


    Cafe SETI
    Trade stories with other SETI@home users

    Actually, almost everything in here is not appropriate. It says share "stories." I, Vroomfondel, now demand all posts be in the form of a story. However, it does not say they have to be stories about SETI. :)
    8329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586119)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nightie night @ all!

    WINNING, again :-D


    11 minutes later, I think you are still awake.


    Poor guy forgot to log out. Wonder if I should make his computer chirp with the "chime up" sound? :)
    8330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586118)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you people insist upon dragging my threads off topic!?!?!?

    [edit] If, per chance, you are attempting to drive me away from here, forget it. I'm here for the long haul! :) [/edit]


    I'm not trying to drive anybody away from here. This is the cafe, people tend to chat off topic. I do it a lot, don't take it personally.


    We're working with him on this, Siran, but his 12 step recovery program is going to take a long time and it will be a grueling process. :)
    8331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Get Well Wishes for Tiare Arroway Rivera Taiba (Message 586117)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Tiare says

    “Man is free at the moment he wishes to be” – Voltaire
    8332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586095)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    nightie night @ all!

    WINNING, again :-D


    11 minutes later, I think you are still awake.
    8333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586089)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while at work!

    Makes a call to Reno using Skype with a supposed Reno area-code, making Jeremy think there's a wild party going on next door ... .
    Phone call includes making weird loud background noises like on Mrs. Doubtfire, followed by shrieking like Michael Jackson, roaring like James Hetfield and finally, an Eminem rap.
    Jeremy shakes head, plans to send police to caller's house to arrest caller. Jeremy cannot track down caller, because he's not really in Reno. :) Jeremy ... ANGRY! Goes all Chris Farley like.

    ROFLMAO!!!

    Maybe that could give you an idea for a new avatar? :)
    8334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 586079)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while at work!

    Makes a call to Reno using Skype with a supposed Reno area-code, making Jeremy think there's a wild party going on next door ... .
    Phone call includes making weird loud background noises like on Mrs. Doubtfire, followed by shrieking like Michael Jackson, roaring like James Hetfield and finally, an Eminem rap.
    Jeremy shakes head, plans to send police to caller's house to arrest caller. Jeremy cannot track down caller, because he's not really in Reno. :) Jeremy ... ANGRY! Goes all Chris Farley like.
    8335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586076)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If this works, Siran, please let us know, and do not forget to say thank you to Misfit.

    He did in his own special way.
    And, Misfit, can we see a lot more of you being like this? :)

    $how me the money.

    With a donation? Sorry, that could get me auto-modded. And now backing out of the thread so Siran can vent. :)
    8336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586069)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw that the RieselSieve site had automagically set me up on the phpBB message boards with an account.

    I checked their forum and no "siran" or version thereof exists. Where did you see you were automatically set up?
    There is no way to set up an account with that phpBB message board. At least none that I could find.

    Go here and click the Register link, located top right.

    Well, I'm not really sure now. I just logged into Riesel and cannot find what I read the told me that. I did read, however, something in my account that may have given me the idea. It may have been a misunderstanding. If it was, my apologies.

    Feel free to vent frustrations here anyway.

    Dif-tor heh smusma \\V/_


    HOW DARE YOU READ SOMETHING INCORRECTLY AND HAVE MISUNDERSTANDINGS?!? THIS IS EXTREMELY UNACCEPTABLE, PARTICULARLY FOR A VULCAN!!!

    Just kidding. :)
    8337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : OMG MySQL is overloading! (Message 586066)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey,

    I was in the process of building a search engine, and I built a web spider... and I have an unlimited storage and unlimited bandwidth account with my hosting company... and my web spider archived 18GB's worth of data into a MySQL database, and the told me I had to stop as it was using 80% of their CPU power.
    :(


    You naughty naughty boy! :)
    8338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586065)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw that the RieselSieve site had automagically set me up on the phpBB message boards with an account.

    I checked their forum and no "siran" or version thereof exists. Where did you see you were automatically set up?
    There is no way to set up an account with that phpBB message board. At least none that I could find.

    Go here and click the Register link, located top right.

    If this works, Siran, please let us know, and do not forget to say thank you to Misfit. And, Misfit, can we see a lot more of you being like this? :)
    Siran, we KNEW you were venting.
    So, Jeffrey, let's save the discussion of comprehension for the matters that count. ;)
    8339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 586051)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And I thought Rushmas was so well-loved

    Love can't be bought at any price, only obedience which eventually leads to resentment which ultimately leads to anger can be bought...

    We don't love them, we simply put up with them because they pay us to...

    It's a 'capitalist' thing... ;)


    OK, that made no sense.
    8340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 586049)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just from experience I'd say you could be mostly wrong about that.
    I really hope your wrong. I'm not ready to deal with that yet.
    Good luck!


    Thanks Sarge!

    I decided she's not allowed to date boys until after college. Problem solved...I wish it was that simple.


    I doubt it will be that simple.
    8341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 586047)
    Posted 13 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why do you people insist upon dragging my threads off topic!?!?!?

    [edit] If, per chance, you are attempting to drive me away from here, forget it. I'm here for the long haul! :) [/edit]


    Actually, I figured it would be something you'd be interested in. And CR answered it pretty well.
    8342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It is so frustrating.... (Message 585958)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ageless
    Forum moderator

    Message 9183 - Posted 29 Mar 2007 10:44:23 UTC

    When you are sent from any other BOINC project forums to these forums, you need to make a new posting account.

    These forums are completely separate from any of the Projects. They are available for BOINC specific problems. If you have problems with any science application post on the affected Project forums first.

    ____________
    Jord

    BOINC FAQ Service
    ID: 9183 | Rating: -1 | rate: + / - - Report this post as offensive


    Now, what is the point of rating a statement like that as a -1?
    8343) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 585937)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isaiah 32:5-8
    The fool will no more be called noble, nor the knave said to be honorable. For the fool speaks folly, and his mind plots iniquity: to practice ungodliness, to utter error concerning the Lord, to leave the craving of the hungry unsatisfied, and to deprive the thirsty of drink. The knaveries of the knave are evil; he devises wicked devices to ruin the poor with lying words, even when the plea of the needy is right. But he who is noble devises noble things, and by noble things he stands. ;)

    Evan Almighty! ( Sarge, the fool, speaking folly. ;) )
    8344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585926)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Me Winning:

    You Losing!


    Or not! :)

    After Thursday, you won't have me to kick around for a week anyway, so how about letting me win till then?


    Vacation?
    8345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585918)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    My 14 year old graduated from the 8th grade today :)


    That's fun!
    But will high school be fun?
    8346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585898)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (Heeheehee! Did I have you looking over your shoulder?)
    Where's the image link for thst? :)
    8347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585885)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn, change the thread title and it's not fun, anymore!
    And I thought Rushmas was so well-loved people would appreciate a summer solstice version. So much for thinking! :)
    8348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585884)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Me Winning:

    You Losing!


    Or not! :)
    8349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 585822)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is everybody ? I used to be able to offend somebody every 20 minutes. Have you ALL been through "anger Management" class ? I'm getting bored. Is this your new stratagy ?


    I flunked that class miserably, 'Joe'!


    Sounds like a myth. I haven't seen anyone capable of provoking you.

    Yeah, we all flunked it. Damned wives !!!!


    Wives?? What wives?? I have never had one of those. :-)

    Look in your basement. In the long box.


    Lunch box?

    Is nightmare THAT evil ? But what will we do without our wives......nevermind....I get it


    With his glasses on, he looks really bada$$. :)
    8350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585731)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good moooorning!

    I win while America sleeps :-D


    As Bono said: "I'm wide awake ... in America."


    I don't get it: If he's wide awake in America, can he be asleep anywhere else? LOL


    He's Irish.
    8351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585727)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good moooorning!

    I win while America sleeps :-D


    As Bono said: "I'm wide awake ... in America."
    8352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 585725)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is everybody ? I used to be able to offend somebody every 20 minutes. Have you ALL been through "anger Management" class ? I'm getting bored. Is this your new stratagy ?


    I flunked that class miserably, 'Joe'!


    Sounds like a myth. I haven't seen anyone capable of provoking you.

    Yeah, we all flunked it. Damned wives !!!!


    Wives?? What wives?? I have never had one of those. :-)

    Look in your basement. In the long box.


    Lunch box?
    8353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585632)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it fun yet?
    8354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585627)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Try Green Tea instead, it has caffeine as well as antioxidants and it helps your digestive system too.
    The green teas I have tried taste awful. I like various other teas, though.
    8355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585626)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just from experience I'd say you could be mostly wrong about that.
    I really hope your wrong. I'm not ready to deal with that yet.
    Good luck!
    8356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585593)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    EXTREMELY DARK ESPRESSO COMIN' UP . . .



    Make mine a double!


    Dang it, Beets, do not steal my espressos! I need them!!!



    Not to worry, Sarge. There's enough to go 'round for everyone.


    No!!! I need them all!!! All the espressos in the world!!!
    8357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585591)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    EXTREMELY DARK ESPRESSO COMIN' UP . . .



    Make mine a double!


    Dang it, Beets, do not steal my espressos! I need them!!!
    8358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 585581)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . COUNTDOWN - 15 Days to Go


    Is the launch pad clear of debris?


    The launch pad is constantly in motion.
    8359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585567)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    EXTREMELY DARK ESPRESSO COMIN' UP . . .



    Woo hoo! :)
    8360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585565)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My sons little war.

    Who's winning? ;)


    More than likely his side.


    Unless it like the movie Independence Day. In that case, first, the good guys get whooped really bad, then, somehow some ne-er-do-well but smart guy sweeps in and saves the day.


    Come to think of it, isn't that the plot of "Top Gun" too? I wonder what Misfit has to say about this. :)


    I've never watched all of Top Gun. Never had an interest. But it was also the plot of Deep Impact and The Day After Tomorrow (both mediocre), except natural disasters = bad guys in those movies.
    8361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585562)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    LOL! How old is he?


    He's turning 14 in a couple months. My daughter is almost 12. She's still happy playing with her dolls, not interested in yucky boys yet.

    Edit: I think she's not interested in boys yet! I could be wrong about that.. :/


    She probably is. Probably she likes boys a few years older than her.
    I don't even want to think about all the girls around that age , or 13, or 14, who had crushes on me when I was a camp counselor.
    8362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 585561)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    . . . COUNTDOWN - 15 Days to Go

    LOL! Let's keep it on Eastern time. :)
    8363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585549)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo!


    YO!


    Word to da ... I need more dang coffee 'cuz I gots mo' work ta do!
    8364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585546)
    Posted 12 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My sons little war.

    Who's winning? ;)


    More than likely his side.


    Unless it like the movie Independence Day. In that case, first, the good guys get whooped really bad, then, somehow some ne-er-do-well but smart guy sweeps in and saves the day.


    LMOA! He's outside talking to his girlfriend. Somehow I doubt playing war is on his mind tonight.


    LOL! How old is he?
    8365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585533)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I was in Europe around the time that I played with toy soldiers. Most boys there played with Medieval Knights tin soldiers with large papier-mache castles complete with drawbridges. So, the main scenario was a siege, with some brave knights coming out from the castle to joust with the beseigers.


    Happy times!


    Cool! I only had the regular cheap plastic solders. Most of them died horrible deaths with my dads lighter fluid. Some with firecrackers. Of course, several had arm, leg and head amputations done with scissors. Now that I think about it, that's probably why I never saved any of them. LOL!


    Ouch!
    8366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585527)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My sons little war.

    Who's winning? ;)


    More than likely his side.


    Unless it like the movie Independence Day. In that case, first, the good guys get whooped really bad, then, somehow some ne-er-do-well but smart guy sweeps in and saves the day.
    8367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585525)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    well, Thorin, I think the 5 hours you got earlier was enough, now I win

    Yes, let Stacey Jane win. ;)
    8368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 585510)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Where is everybody ? I used to be able to offend somebody every 20 minutes. Have you ALL been through "anger Management" class ? I'm getting bored. Is this your new stratagy ?


    I flunked that class miserably, 'Joe'!


    Sounds like a myth. I haven't seen anyone capable of provoking you.
    8369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585507)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    La Be Da - Do Do Do Do Be Do Be Do Be. Booby Do Be Booby Bar.

    I think Susan must know how to have fun. :)
    8370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585443)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning everybody...........although it will probably be the afternoon by the time this gets posted.

    LOL, AJ!
    8371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585416)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to win so very S=L=O=O-W-L-Y again

    Well, that did not last long. :)
    8372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585407)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn lag.
    8373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585403)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin ... you can see your post arrived at 13.14.02, or nearly 2 hours before it was sent!

    Now I win in a slow time warp?


    That's UTC versus Deutsch time. :)
    8374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585391)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin ... you can see your post arrived at 13.14.02, or nearly 2 hours before it was sent!

    Now I win in a slow time warp?


    That's UTC versus Deutsch time. :)
    8375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585385)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while having a little snack between coming home from a visit at friends and leaving home to help some of my class-mates in Maths (and have them help me in Socio-Economics after that)

    Rush would be proud. :)
    8376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 585345)
    Posted 11 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL! Learning and growing? She thinks she can do that in just a few days? What a lousy role model for the 25-somethings and younger.
    8377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585294)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    pffftttttt !!! miss MisfiT . . . goT a CErtain *ring* 2 iT . . .
    sniCkErn' az i run *.*

    Does anybody miss Misfit? I think Stacey does. ;)
    8378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585284)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does Nobody miss Misfit?
    8379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585276)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Posting here is like running through water .... slow mo

    Good thing have important work to do, otherwise I'd be really upset at this slow mo.
    8380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585268)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last post before an outrage.

    Wait. This one was scheduled?
    [EDIT: the last day something like this was posted on the home page was May 25th.]

    I knew it, I knew it! But wait, I don't think this is over.

    Don't go getting all outrage psychic on us! :)

    Still very slow... I'm getting a feeling.. I will finish this 6 pack tonight before bedtime! Yes......

    I was right..... AGAIN!

    Yep. :(
    8381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Humans Had Help Finishing Off Woolly Mammoths (Message 585265)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Have some links to the History Channel website where they tell more about it or tell when the show will be re-aired?
    8382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585251)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I pity the fool that has dial-up.

    Mr. T!
    8383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585248)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I pity the fool that has dial-up.

    Mr. T!
    8384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585239)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I pity the fool that has dial-up.

    Mr. T!
    8385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585217)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last post before an outrage.

    Wait. This one was scheduled?
    [EDIT: the last day something like this was posted on the home page was May 25th.]

    I knew it, I knew it! But wait, I don't think this is over.

    Don't go getting all outrage psychic on us! :)
    8386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Humans Had Help Finishing Off Woolly Mammoths (Message 585208)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Off topic.
    8387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 585204)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I know what I want for my birthday: coffee. Lots and lots of very strong coffee to last me the rest of the summer.
    8388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585200)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Last post before an outrage.

    Wait. This one was scheduled?
    [EDIT: the last day something like this was posted on the home page was May 25th.]
    8389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585197)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm here for the outrage.


    Hope you're supporting Kenzie B

    Why shouldn't she? These girls stick together.


    Oi

    on this one

    I am supporting the girls

    OK

    Of course I support Kenzie B ... anything specific she needs support for?


    I think it's in relation to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=40060&nowrap=true#584977, but based on Chris' response to my response, I am not sure. Hopefully Chris and I can sort this out?
    8390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585196)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cutting short someone's 1 hour long win. ;)
    8391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585195)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And it's docked (about 30 minutes ago, message delayed by an unscheduled outrage).
    8392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585189)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speed, approximately one-tenth of a foot per second.
    8393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585188)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    28 minutes to go.
    214 miles above Earth.
    A little over 200 feet away.
    8394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585187)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    170 feet. Go for docking.
    EDIT: might have had the distance wrong, there. Sorry!
    8395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585185)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    360 feet!
    8396) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Countdown for Atlantis or STS-117 (Message 585184)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://www.nasa.gov/news/highlights/index.html
    See the docking online!
    360 feet away now!
    8397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585182)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shuttle is in front of ISS and 400 feet away.
    8398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585179)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Docking in about 56 minutes!
    8399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585178)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    600 feet below ISS!
    8400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585176)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I found it at

    http://www.nasa.gov/news/highlights/index.html

    and scrolling down just a little.

    Of course, it cuts in and out since I am on wireless right now.


    Watch the docking at the same site I posted before! :)
    8401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 585174)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Docking in about 1 hour 45 mins from the time of this post...

    16,500 feet apart


    Is this also being shown on NASA tv?
    8402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585120)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My husband dug these out for me today and told me that as a 'kid' they were fun to play with.



    I'm guessing that this may not be "kid friendly" these days anymore. For God's sake those little guys have guns, grenades and bazookas.

    [edit] bayonets and knives too.[/edit]


    But is this the kind of fun that was supposed to begin?
    We don't even know what kind of fun we're looking for and it has been about 12 hours! Waaahhh!!! :(
    8403) Message boards : Politics : Automods: an experiment... (Message 585102)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . So, Eric - How do You Find the 'Experiment' going so far Sir?

    Don't know, but, there have been a few people that have stopped being moderators (at least some by the request of the person in question), and there have been some new moderators appointed.


    And, as the money situation here is pretty grim, if they don't get those about 500,000 bucks they need, there won't be a board to moderate on.

    So please consider a donation.




    post bump


    EDIT: This is still relevant...



    (# of unmoderated posts) x sqrt(RAC x (1+has_donated))


    Depends on if that is still the formula! :)
    8404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585091)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    oh yeah! This has to go. No fun allowed in here! :P

    No, we just can't have multiple fun. :)
    8405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585090)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Why do you open two threads.

    I would think there'd be a fair amount of obviousness to this. Why do some people sometimes make double posts? More often than not, it is because their connection to the forum has slowed down, they press the stop button on the web browser and then press the post button in the forum again.
    Please go ahead and delete/hide the second one.
    8406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585084)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is where the fun begins! ;)


    I can feel it.. Something big is coming...

    I hope I don't have to wait too long...


    Who knows?
    It's not my fun. :)
    8407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is where the fun begins! (Message 585073)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is where the fun begins! ;)
    8408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585072)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    winning before watching the formula one grand prix in montreal.

    Winning before ignoring all that waste of gas.
    8409) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 585071)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So if a flying saucer lands on the White House lawn and an alien steps out. What would you shoot him with ?

    "...Questions...Queries...Posers."

    We should decide NOW !

    @The Mods,Please delete the last few posts.
    I answered a dumb question with a dumb answer.
    I apologize. Sorry, totally "Off Topic".:-(

    That's not how the mods work.
    8410) Message boards : Politics : Gun ownership..........right or wrong?? (Message 585069)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wait.
    I'm confused.
    Can we post pix with guns or not?
    Does this apply to avatars?
    Can I, for example, have an avatar of Milla Jovan-who-cares-who-she-is-and-how-you-spell-it-o-vich, pointing two guns? Better yet, a Borg-a-fied Milla pointing guns?
    8411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585064)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOTD at SETI Beta/Astropulse! I win!

    The poison has spread through all BOINCdom. Time to let the patient go.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory
    http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i4pyrrhic.htm
    8412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who wants to go up with Virgin Galactic? (Message 585062)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please keep posts on topic and kid-friendly. :)
    If you are unsure what Virgin Galactic is, please click the link. ;)
    8413) Message boards : Politics : Automods: an experiment... (Message 585061)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . so far - so good: The Experiment is Coming Along Fine



    "I do believe it's working ... good ... that'll keep you going through the show ..."

    Amazing! Richard unlOcked a thread! ;)
    8414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585055)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning only for fun.


    Winning for the science!


    Winning for the fun of science.
    Winning for the science of fun!
    8415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585051)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BOTD at SETI Beta/Astropulse! I win!

    The poison has spread through all BOINCdom. Time to let the patient go.


    Any guesses who it was posted by??????????????

    Yup

    You got it


    Huh?
    8416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 585047)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning only for fun.


    Winning for the science!
    8417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 585042)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "When it's not about the science it's about the fun." -- Misfit


    Well it had better be about the science as there sure aint any fun around here any more and hasnt been for ages.....


    "The sociologists at Berkeley are analyzing these message boards to study the science of 'fun." --- Sarge ;)
    8418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 585022)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "When it's not about the science it's about the fun." -- Misfit


    Well it had better be about the science as there sure aint any fun around here any more and hasnt been for ages.....


    Here's where the fun begins! ;)
    8419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584916)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pix of Knute? :)
    8420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584911)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Red, long time no see. How'r you?

    Hi, Red! Haven't seen you in ... what ... 1-2 days, since over on the CalmChaos forums?

    haha Yep Sarge, How you be Sir

    You've got Skype, right, Red?

    No Sarge.

    Oh. I was going to try an experiment, but I guess you cannot help. Oh, well.
    8421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584909)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Red, long time no see. How'r you?

    Hi, Red! Haven't seen you in ... what ... 1-2 days, since over on the CalmChaos forums?

    haha Yep Sarge, How you be Sir

    You've got Skype, right, Red?
    8422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584904)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Red, long time no see. How'r you?

    Hi, Red! Haven't seen you in ... what ... 1-2 days, since over on the CalmChaos forums?
    8423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584901)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to break up this Canadian gathering, move on, nothing to see here.

    Dune isn't Canadian! Or is he?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri7zQCkMMhc!
    8424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 584896)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Bigfoot Forums ( let's see if we can get Misfit to spend some time over there, with his video links ;) ... more time there = less time here ;) )
    8425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 584852)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Goodnight Song.
    Listen to the lyrics in the second verse.
    Performed this in Hawai'i back in January. Glad I pulled it off decently! :)
    8426) Message boards : SETI@home Science : how would liquid water behave on Mars? (Message 584847)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All you need to know is in "Out of the Silent Planet." :)
    8427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 584817)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From what I can see, the legal issue is a very live one. Can a Judge sentence someone to a particular prison without the prior consent of the Department of Corrections? I wouldn't think so.

    Can a judge decide whether or not a convicted person shall be kept in solitary confinement or serve time in the general population without the prior consent of Department of Corrections ? Again, I wouldn't think so.

    It seems to me that a judge has NO authority to direct how a sentence of imprisonment should be served at all. That's for a different government body to decide, imho.

    And if that's the case, an order such as "no electronic house arrest" exceeds his authority by encroaching upon the corrections' authority indirectly. The gewnral rule is that you cannot do something indirectly if you cannot do it directly.


    I don't know the answers to those legal questions. From what I've been hearing in the media, Paris Hilton is serving jail time for offences that most others don't get jail for. So my view is that the judge is trying to satisfy the people that think she was somehow getting a better deal than an average person.


    People seem to forget that she's not being jailed for illegally operating a motor vehicle but for "VIOLATION OF PROBATION" .


    Which is why I spoke with less certainty than in other situations and asked if I was remembering correctly.
    8428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 584813)
    Posted 10 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From what I can see, the legal issue is a very live one. Can a Judge sentence someone to a particular prison without the prior consent of the Department of Corrections? I wouldn't think so.

    Can a judge decide whether or not a convicted person shall be kept in solitary confinement or serve time in the general population without the prior consent of Department of Corrections ? Again, I wouldn't think so.

    It seems to me that a judge has NO authority to direct how a sentence of imprisonment should be served at all. That's for a different government body to decide, imho.

    And if that's the case, an order such as "no electronic house arrest" exceeds his authority by encroaching upon the corrections' authority indirectly. The gewnral rule is that you cannot do something indirectly if you cannot do it directly.


    I don't know the answers to those legal questions. From what I've been hearing in the media, Paris Hilton is serving jail time for offences that most others don't get jail for. So my view is that the judge is trying to satisfy the people that think she was somehow getting a better deal than an average person.


    If I remember correctly, caught twice for driving while her license was suspended? And why was it suspended? Again, if memory serves, DUI (or DWI, as it is called in some states).
    Since I am doing some work right now, I am not going to track down more articles on it. Someone want to track down this info for me/us?
    If DUI, then, yes, people get jail time for that, right?
    8429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584795)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still bored. Still raining. Must find something to do......

    I love the rain. It makes me feel so cozy. We had a wicked down pour here yesterday, a little bit of hail mixed in. It was a short but powerful storm. As long as I'm not getting drenched and cold, I like it.


    It rains here 7 months of the year. I want summer, and I want it now. :)

    You're from the same place as . She loves the rain....


    No, he's on the other side of Canada. By Spice, not Sugar.


    Yeppers, I'm on the Dark Side of the country.

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!


    Not you! (aj)_in_(bc) Get it? :)
    8430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584788)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still bored. Still raining. Must find something to do......

    I love the rain. It makes me feel so cozy. We had a wicked down pour here yesterday, a little bit of hail mixed in. It was a short but powerful storm. As long as I'm not getting drenched and cold, I like it.


    It rains here 7 months of the year. I want summer, and I want it now. :)

    You're from the same place as . She loves the rain....


    No, he's on the other side of Canada. By Spice, not Sugar.
    8431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584785)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I feel
    a song coming on.

    I'm just a poor boy , nobody loves me!


    He's just a poor boy, from a poor family ....
    Spare him his life from this monstrousi TEEEEEE!

    Hi Stacey, come to pick up Monday's poor shattered life?

    Man, it's Bohemian Rhapsody, you know by Queen ... hasn't anyone else seen Wayne's World?

    Hi Dune.


    People in the 33-39 age range may have, others, less likely.
    But, that song is much older than the movie.
    That and Freddy Mercury passed away around the time of the movie release, perhaps a few months before?
    8432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584783)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You mean Knute? ;)



    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE!!!

    I feel
    a song coming on.

    I'm just a poor boy , nobody loves me!

    Such a mournful post I have decided to give your cousin back to you.



    8433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 584767)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Word up to da science, yo! Deyz sum strait-up-jack-et wack space aliens, ya dig?
    8434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584759)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was Yogi Berra.
    8435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 584643)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From the Detroit Free Press ... .

    Shuttle Atlantis chasing space station
    June 9, 2007
    CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The space shuttle Atlantis, fresh from a fiery launch, was in hot pursuit of the international space station on Saturday, but won't catch up until Sunday.
    A slight concern about an exposed area in the shuttle's delicate heat-protection system arose overnight when engineers examined photos taken by the shuttle's crew after launch. The photo showed a small exposed area in thermal blankets on the left side of the shuttle near the thrusters Atlantis uses to move about in orbit, said NASA spokesman Louis Parker.

    That area is not a usual focus for potential heat problems when the shuttle returns to earth, but normal day-after-launch inspections will assess it, Parker said.

    "There's not a whole lot of concerns just yet," Parker said Saturday morning.

    Atlantis' seven-man crew was closing the gap between the two space bodies by 920 miles every 90-minute orbit. By 9 a.m. EDT, the shuttle was scheduled to be 8,630 miles away from its destination. Atlantis was to dock with the space station Sunday afternoon.

    During the 11-day flight, the astronauts will deliver a new segment and a pair of solar panels to the orbiting outpost. They plan three spacewalks - on Monday, Wednesday and Friday - to install the new equipment and retract an old solar panel.

    On Sunday, astronaut Clayton Anderson will replace astronaut Sunita Williams as the U.S. representative aboard the space station, and Williams will return to Earth aboard Atlantis. She has spent the past six months in orbit.

    Much of Saturday's work was designed to set the stage for Sunday's docking and the tasks that follow. Astronauts were also going to check if the shuttle was damaged from foam debris shaken loose during Friday night's launch. It was a foam hit that caused Columbia's fatal accident in 2003; since then, NASA spends its first full day in orbit looking for potential problem spots.

    About an hour after launch, NASA managers said initial checks found nothing to worry about. One piece of foam that appeared to come off the shuttle's fuel tank - which bore ugly white patches that repaired hail damage that had delayed the flight by three months - about 135 seconds after launch did not seem to hit the shuttle, said shuttle program manager Wayne Hale.

    "The tank performed in a magnificent way, despite having several thousand repairs to it," Hale said at a news conference. "(The debris) should not be a hazard that late in the flight."

    Astronaut Patrick Forrester will use the shuttle's robot arm and a boom extension to examine its wings and outer edges.

    Minutes after launch, Atlantis' contrails formed an intricate and unusual knot in the Florida sky, framed by the colors of sunset and with the bright light of Venus peeking through.

    Veteran shuttle watchers oohed and aahed at the second sky show of the night.

    The first shuttle launch of the year helped put NASA back on track after a run of bad luck and scandal on the ground during the first half of the year.

    In the past few months, NASA has seen the arrest of astronaut Lisa Nowak in an alleged plot to kidnap her rival for a shuttle pilot's affections; a murder-suicide at the Johnson Space Center in Houston; and the derailment of a train carrying rocket-booster segments for future shuttle launches.

    More recently, NASA Administrator Michael Griffin has come under fire for suggesting that global warming may not be a problem worth wrestling with. And the agency's inspector general was lambasted at a congressional hearing Thursday by former staff members, congressmen and senators over the way he managed his office, treated his employees and investigated complaints.
    8436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 584640)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Experts: Paris May Set Legal Precedent
    by Josh Grossberg
    Fri, 8 Jun 2007 05:14:07 PM PDT



    As Paris burns back in county jail, the debate over her short-lived release rages on, with law experts dissecting the thorny legal issues raised by the Simple Life star's sentence.

    The main issue? Whether Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer was correct in overruling Sheriff Lee Baca's decision to transfer Hilton to house arrest after just three full days in jail for what was originally a 45-day sentence.

    "It's really bizarre that the most frivolous person in the western world in the most frivolous case in which she didn't know she has a license to drive might end up creating precedent that could affect thousands of prisoners and where they're housed and how they're housed for years to come," said Stan Goldman, professor of criminal law at Loyola University Law School.

    Goldman and others agree the showdown creates a legal quandary—i.e., whether the elected sheriff is truly independent of the judiciary and whether Judge Sauer overstepped his bounds.

    "The judge attempted to impose control over the sentence," said Jody Armour, professor of law at the University of Southern California. "The sheriff doesn't have discretion to do anything willy-nilly, but once the custody of an inmate has been given over to his department, the sheriff is given a lot of latitude. But with one huge exception."

    Armour said that Sauer's sentencing order explicitly forbade Baca from putting her in home confinement. "The judge was trying to limit the discretion of the sheriff, and the sheriff was saying this is our domain," Armour said.

    "The Sheriff's Department didn't know that their discretionary decision would be overridden by the judge. But apparently so far they're mistaken, and now, unfortunately, Paris is paying the price of that confusion and that misunderstanding."

    The point was seconded by one of Armour's colleagues at USC. "Usually the court is very loath to intervene with how the sheriff runs his jail facilities. He may have reason to move people around because of overcrowding or an emergency arises," observed law professor Jean Rosenbluth. "But I think because the judge said from the very start no home confinement and 23 days, and the sheriff didn't get his permission...the judge was quick to assert his control."

    Sauer hauled Hilton back into court early Friday after learning that Baca had authorized Hilton's so-called reassignment. The sheriff's move sparked a monster PR nightmare, with accusations of his department giving special treatment to the hotel heiress.

    At a Friday press conference, Baca attempted to deflect criticism by first asserting that Hilton was a "low-level offender" and he was under a federal mandate to reduce inmate overcrowding. He then switched tacks and said she had "severe medical problems" and her condition was "rapidly deteriorating" without proper medication. After consulting with two psychologists, he made his decision.

    Goldman said the 23 days Hilton is expected to serve of her sentence (once she's credited for time served and good behavior) is typical for such offenders, and normally she might get released after two weeks. But Goldman thinks that the hoopla over Hilton's early release could work against her.

    "Is the sheriff going to be so gun-shy that he's not going to release her in 15 or 16 days but they're going make her do the 23?" Goldman wondered. "The question is, Can a judge in L.A. override that? Up until now, my answer would have been no. I have no doubt [Hilton's lawyer] is going to appeal this to a higher court and decide whether [the sheriff] is independently functioning from the judge."

    Which is exactly what Hilton attorney Richard Hutton did Friday. Goldman thinks the appeal has a shot at success.

    "I've never seen someone pulled out of house arrest because the judge didn't like it, as opposed to the judge saying that they violated the rules of house of arrest. It may be that the court of appeals may completely agree with the judge," he said.

    Sauer has hardly been sympathetic to Hilton. During his original sentencing, he chided her for failing to take responsibility for her errors after prosecutors showed she was twice caught driving with a suspended license within weeks after pleading no contest to alcohol-related reckless driving in January.

    Baca said Hilton was being tossed around like a "football" by the criminal justice system. According to the legal experts, she will likely suffer much more than had she never got out of solitary confinement in the first place.

    "The sense of deprivation being so close to a release and you have expectations and then to have those firm expectations dashed with such a stark reversal of fortune must be really psychologically traumatic," said Armour. "This has to heap on even more psychological trauma on her."

    Added Goldman: "I've never had one defendant say to me that he was glad to be out. They all said [they were] sorry they didn't go straight through because it was just too much for them to come out and have to go back in."
    8437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Internet Radio (Message 584632)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    im listen'in to a local station on the net. it's wxeg.com. it's in dayton, ohio

    What sort of music do they generally play?

    I just looked at their site and their top 10. Looks like enough there that I know and would like to want to check it out some time. :)
    8438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Internet Radio (Message 584628)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    im listen'in to a local station on the net. it's wxeg.com. it's in dayton, ohio

    What sort of music do they generally play?
    8439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Internet Radio (Message 584624)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am currently listening to Morow on iTunes. Their description: "The Best Progressive Rock of Yesterday and Today."

    Does anyone have internet radio stations they'd like to make to others?

    I like to listen to progressive rock and metal and sometimes New Age and Ambient (nothing to "dancy" --- yuck!).

    And if I go back to the music of my teens and early adulthood, to check what these "80s Stations" play, they tend to play the mediocre junk that made it onto mediocre non-internet stations back then. :(
    8440) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 584520)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Krazy Karl is sitting here at the coffee shop and says he does not know how to help me hijack my own happy b'day thread!
    8441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Birthday Sarge - June 27 (Message 584425)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm sorry. The Sarge you are trying to reach, S-A-R-G-E, is no longer in service, as he is spending the next 18 days partying for his birthday. Please check your Sarge and then try again. :)
    8442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 584414)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9:00am - 11:00am, SCIFI (38)
    Sasquatch Hunters

    Paleontologists, students and forest rangers encounter a legendary creature in a deeply wooded area.
    8443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Team For My Son (Message 584261)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And sometimes, they come back. :)
    8444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584248)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm in
    for another long win.
    I'll rhyme anytime I like.
    It always easily comes back, just like riding a bike.
    8445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584231)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So for those on the other side
    of the globe
    keep the rhyme flowing with the tide.
    But, please, no disco strobe!
    8446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584222)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, so it's now Saturday, no need to keep rhyming.

    Diatribe,
    "a bitter and abusive speech or writing."
    Perhaps he will accept a bribe,
    amidst this post fighting
    to let me win.
    C'mon, it's not a sin.
    For him it is Saturday,
    for Stacey and I it remains a Friday.
    8447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 584219)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Each stanza
    four lines long.
    Tony Danza
    never sang Alyssa Milano a song.

    Giving me 2 seconds was not cool! LOL

    :)
    8448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 584138)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Related article ... .

    Paris Goes Directly Back to Jail



    by Sarah Hall
    Fri, 8 Jun 2007 05:20:22 PM PDT

    Easy come, easy go for Paris Hilton.

    A day after she was "reassigned" from the Century Regional Detention Facility to house arrest due to an undisclosed medical condition, the hotel heiress was sent back to the slammer by Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer, the same judge who originally sentenced her to 45 days for violating her probation on an alcohol-related driving charge.

    The judge ordered that Hilton return to a county jail to serve out the remainder of her sentence, which the Los Angeles City Attorney's office pegged at 31 days. [See video of the announcement.]

    After hearing the verdict, a weeping Hilton was escorted from the courtroom by a female deputy, shrieking, "It's not right! Mom!"

    She was taken to the downtown Twin Towers jail for medical and psychiatric examination to determine which facility she will be held in, and will remain there for at least the next two days, Sheriff's Department spokesman Steve Whitmore said.

    Her lawyer was said to be readying an appeal in the meantime.

    The 26-year-old socialite had not intended to be present in court Friday, but upon learning that she was planning on phoning in her testimony rather than putting in a personal appearance, Sauer ordered the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department to send a squad car to pick her up at her Hollywood Hills home and escort her to the courthouse.

    An O.J. Simpson-in-the-white-Bronco-esque scene ensued, with swarms of news helicopters trailing the police convoy as it transported Hilton to the hearing.

    Hilton dressed for the occasion in a oversize gray sweatshirt and sloppy slacks, with her hair tied back in a messy ponytail and her face free of makeup.

    She cried and shook visibly throughout the hearing, and turned several times to mouth, "I love you," to her parents, who were seated behind her.

    Her attorney, Richard Hutton, asked the judge to order a hearing in his chambers to hear testimony about Hilton's medical condition, but Sauer did not comply with the request.

    Another defense attorney argued that the court's role "is to let the Sheriff's Department run the jail."

    Sauer said he had never approved Sheriff Lee Baca's decision to send Hilton home.

    "I at no time condoned the actions of the sheriff and at no time told him I approved the actions," Sauer said. "At no time did I approve the defendant being released from custody to her home."

    The judge also said that he had received a call from an undersheriff on Wednesday advising him that Hilton had a medical condition and that he would be given paperwork to consider in the case.

    "I never received medical documents. The sheriff's office still has done nothing," he said.

    Shortly thereafter, he announced: "The defendant is remanded to county jail to serve the remainder of her 45-day sentence. This order is forthwith." [See the judge's handwritten order and filings from the city attorney.]

    Hilton screamed, while her mother, Kathy, collapsed into her husband Rick's arms, groaning, "Oh my God!"
    8449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : "Entertainment" news --- legal precedents? (Message 584137)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a few of us focus on things like the shuttle launch, others pay attention to ...

    Wailing Paris Hilton ordered back to jail



    By Steve Gorman 1 hour, 40 minutes ago

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A sobbing Paris Hilton was sent back to jail on Friday as a judge overturned a sheriff department's decision to place the heiress under house arrest after just three days behind bars.

    The slender 26-year-old celebrity trembled and cried quietly throughout the hearing and then broke into loud sobs when the judge ordered her back behind bars. "Mom, Mom. It's not right," she shrieked as she was led out of the courtroom. Her mother, Kathy Hilton, sobbed.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Sauer ordered Hilton to complete her 45-day sentence in jail rather than at home, marking a stunning turn of fortune for the multimillionaire socialite who has become a symbol of the excess of America's celebrity culture.

    But it remained unclear how long the star of the television reality show "The Simple Life" would spend in jail since she will be given time off for good behavior.

    Sheriff Lee Baca, who runs the county detention facilities, let Hilton out of jail on Thursday for unspecified medical reasons and ordered her confined to her lavish house in Hollywood Hills with an electronic monitoring device attached to her ankle.

    At that point she had served just three full days of what was expected to be a 23-day stint in jail. She had been on probation for reckless driving when she was caught driving her Bentley with a suspended license.

    The hearing was delayed two hours because of confusion over whether Hilton would testify by video from her Hollywood Hills home, or in person.

    Finally, she was handcuffed and placed weeping into a sheriff's car for the trip to court and later driven back to jail, trailed by news helicopters.

    HEALTH ISSUES

    The sheriff's department did not say what health issues led to Hilton's shift to house arrest.

    Judge Sauer said in court on Friday that he was contacted by a sheriff's official on Wednesday and told a psychiatrist who examined Hilton in jail reported a serious problem.

    But Sauer did not elaborate and said the sheriff's department never gave him any documentation of Hilton's condition. "I at no time condoned the action of the sheriff," Sauer said from the bench.

    The sheriff's decision sparked national outrage and accusations of preferential treatment for a celebrity, though Hilton's original sentence was considered by many to be excessive.

    The City Attorney's Office, which prosecuted Hilton, said Sheriff Baca overstepped his authority and should be held in contempt of court for violating the judge's sentencing order, which expressly prohibited electronic monitoring.

    Assistant City Attorney Dan Jeffries said that if Baca felt Hilton needed to be released on medical grounds, he should have sought a court hearing to review the matter.

    Attorneys for the sheriff's department argued that Baca has the discretion to effectively modify a sentence under his authority as chief administrator of the jail system.

    Hilton's lawyer, Richard Hutton, asked the judge to allow Hilton to return to house arrest while such a hearing was convened, but the judge refused.

    And at the end of an hour-long hearing, he declared, "The defendant is remanded to the L.A. County jail to serve the balance of her 45-day sentence. The order is final."

    Celebrity Web site TMZ.com said Hilton's lawyer was planning to appeal her sentence. TMZ also reported that she would probably spend the weekend in a medical facility at a city jail. Officials could not confirm that.
    8450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 584135)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They're past the most dangerous part of it, aren't they?

    Of the launch.
    8451) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 584126)
    Posted 9 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have never received a pm on this board.


    Now you have. :)

    Then that makes it two. (I sent him one an hour ago.)


    Can I get one, too? :)


    OK, I was kidding, folks.
    8452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584118)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!


    It makes your avatar look interesting


    Mine? The halo of supposedly dark matter?
    8453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584103)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    8454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 584086)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I found it at

    http://www.nasa.gov/news/highlights/index.html

    and scrolling down just a little.

    Of course, it cuts in and out since I am on wireless right now.
    8455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle Launch (Message 584081)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's watching it on NASA TV? I am...

    Link? nasa.gov/??? ?
    8456) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 584058)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually ... there ARE some differences ... .
    One, axiomatic systems must pass some tests to be called that, such as "consistency," meaning that the undefined terms, axioms and definitions, along with applying deductive reasoning, cannot result in two statements that contradict each other but are both true.
    Beyond that, axioms are taken "for the sake of argument" as a place to begin. They used to be thought of as self-evident. After about 2200 years, kicked off by Euclid's Parallel Postulate, mathematicians finally saw that axioms need not be self-evident.
    (For more, I would have to link back to some of my better posts in Thread ... 7? ... since I do not have lots of time this evening.)
    8457) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584046)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Just a tiny little poot?
    8458) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 584032)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have never received a pm on this board.


    Now you have. :)

    Then that makes it two. (I sent him one an hour ago.)


    Can I get one, too? :)
    8459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584030)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BUUURRRRAAAH-PARP-PUT-PUT-PUT-FFFFFFIITTTTZZZZZ-PUSSSSHHHITTT-POP!

    [img=http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/j/images/joe-dirt.jpg]Dang![/img]
    8460) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 584022)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At last.... Truth in religion.


    I thought we found truth when we had the sign that kenzie was lost in the woods! Oh, wait, it was a faked pic!
    And even if the one D/B posted was NOT faked, that congregation does not speak for all congregations.
    Of course, if Chuck were here, he'd argue that the minute a person makes ANY assumption, they have thrown away reason.
    Despite the points I made to him about the history of philosophy, math and science ... how we cannot prove EVERYthing ... we must begin with undefined terms and axioms to avoid circular reasoning ... he chose to paint ME as a religious fanatic (funny, really!).
    8461) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 584012)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have never received a pm on this board.


    Now you have. :)

    BUAHAHAHHAA I was thinking the same thing, but decided not to!


    So was I and so did I and ... well, you get the idea. :)
    8462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 584009)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    PARP

    That's one funny-sounding poot! :)
    8463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Team For My Son (Message 583943)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ramchaza has already joined team Calm Chaos, so there's no need for more suggestions, I think.

    Um...I think we should leave that up to Ramchaza, who can announce the thread closed whenever he likes. We should give him that courtesy as the thread starter, don't you agree?


    Both sides sound reasonable. How about a compromise? If Ramchaza comes back and asks for more suggestions, then we make them at that time?

    ( BTW, Beets, she signed her name in the second post of hers in this thread as Theresa. ;) Unless he thinks Knightmare is a woman named Theresa?)
    8464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583736)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What was the reason for scrapping the Concorde, again?


    That's all BS. They weren't selling enough of them. Those Yanks (Boeing) sure know how to sell their planes!


    Why do people always use my initials when they disagree with something? ;)
    8465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583710)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks, Chris.
    8466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583532)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Each stanza
    four lines long.
    Tony Danza
    never sang Alyssa Milano a song.

    Giving me 2 seconds was not cool! LOL

    No problem. :)
    8467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583530)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Each stanza
    four lines long.
    Tony Danza
    never sang Alyssa Milano a song.
    8468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583528)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sleep to win,
    win to sleep.
    Away from the clamor and din.
    my absence do not weep.
    8469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Humans Had Help Finishing Off Woolly Mammoths (Message 583503)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Humans Had Help Finishing Off Woolly Mammoths

    Charles Q. Choi
    Special to LiveScience
    LiveScience.com Thu Jun 7, 12:45 PM ET

    Humans might have finished off the woolly mammoths, but the genetics of the giants apparently helped them decline well beforehand, scientists now find.

    The woolly mammoth (Mammuthus primigenius) was coated in hair up to 20 inches long and possessed extremely long, curved tusks up to 16 feet in length. The giants lived for tens of thousands of years, apparently going extinct roughly 12,000 years ago, around the end of the last ice age.

    For years, scientists suspected that ancient human tribes hunted the mammoths and other ice age giants to oblivion. Recent research seems to contradict this notion, however—for instance, a comet or tuberculosis may have helped kill off the American mastodons (Mammut americanum), closely related to mammoths.

    DNA lifted from wooly mammoth bones, tusks and teeth now reveals the extinction of those giants was not "a sudden event at the end of the last ice age, but a piecemeal process over tens of thousands of years involving progressive loss of genetic diversity," said University of London evolutionary biologist Ian Barnes.

    The researchers analyzed 96 mammoth samples that often came as a result of gold mining in Alaska or paleontological digs in Siberia or Europe. Barnes recalled one instance when he and some Russian colleagues went collecting samples in Siberia and the boat broke down miles upriver from their camp.

    "I looked at the two Russians, who probably had about 50 years of Arctic experience between them, and asked what we did now. 'Now we row!'" Barnes said. "Which was a bit tricky, as they only had one paddle. After a while I asked how long it would take, and one of them said, 'Maybe one day, maybe two, ha, ha, ha.'"

    "We had no food, and just as critically, none of the key elements of any Siberian field team—no tea and no sugar," Barnes said. "After a couple of hours of zigzagging down the river, we got picked up by a passenger ferry and taken in as the guests of some local guys who plied us with vodka and cranberries. You get a fair number of transport problems in Siberia, it seems, but things generally work out OK. That said, I last went in the field five years ago, and I'm fairly happy about that."

    When all was said and done, the team's analyses suggest that woolly mammoth populations remained mostly constant in size for their last 70,000 years. However, occasional drops in population size led to gradual reductions in genetic diversity, findings detailed in the June 19 issue of the journal Current Biology.

    "The fact that they were not genetically diverse might have meant they were not very adaptable to climate change or disease," Barnes told LiveScience. "Maybe when the climate changed and warmed up, things became wetter, and boggy ground doesn't suit mammoths too well. Then humans might have killed off the small, remaining terminal populations."

    The fact that mammoths seemed to hang in there for tens of thousands of years with fairly low genetic diversity, not really expanding much in population size, "could be interpreted as having implications for modern elephant conservation," Barnes said. "Perhaps all the elephant family are able to exist for long periods with low genetic diversity and at a constant population size."

    "However, I would be extremely cautious about going down this route, as we don't really have enough data to extrapolate in that way, and modern elephants have human predation to deal with in a way that mammoth didn't for most of their history," Barnes cautioned.
    8470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Fossilized tracks evidence that dinosaurs swam (Message 583497)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Reuters Photo: This sketch shows how a meat-eating theropod dinosaur might have looked swimming in the shallow...

    Fossilized tracks evidence that dinosaurs swam

    By Will Dunham Thu May 24, 3:47 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Fossilized foot marks left by a big meat-eater on a lake bed in northern Spain 125 million years ago provide strong evidence that at least some dinosaurs were good swimmers, scientists said on Thursday.

    Dinosaurs ruled the land from about 230 million years ago to 65 million years ago. But how they did in the water has been less clear.

    There were numerous huge, fully marine reptiles living at the same time, including the plesiosaurs and ichthyosaurs, but they were not dinosaurs and in fact were only very distantly related to them.

    Writing in the journal Geology, researchers led by Loic Costeur of the Universite de Nantes in France described tracks fossilized in sandstone that were left as a dinosaur swam in water roughly 10.5 feet deep, scratching the lake bottom with clawed feet.

    "The animal used a pelvic paddle motion, much like living aquatic birds," Costeur said by e-mail.

    Twelve "swim tracks" over a stretch of about 50 feet (15 meters) included long and slender sets of grooves. Fossilized ripple marks at the site suggested the dinosaur was swimming against a current whiling trying to maintain a straight path, the researchers said.

    The researchers said the shape and nature of the tracks indicated they were left by a large bipedal theropod dinosaur and not a big crocodile even though these were around at the time. Theropods are the familiar big carnivores like the North American dinosaurs Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus.

    Scientists have been seeking evidence that dinosaurs -- like today's large mammals such as elephants and tigers -- were capable of swimming when circumstances demanded, like hunting in wet ecosystems, crossing rivers or escaping floods.

    Previously discovered fossils showed swimming tracks apparently left by other dinosaurs such as sauropods -- long-necked animals like Diplodocus -- and duckbilled dinosaurs. But some of these have been disputed and were not as revealing as the new ones.

    The new tracks provided the first definitive evidence of an active swimming behavior in dinosaurs and are the best record of swimming by theropods, researchers said.

    The finding also extends the range of ideas about dinosaur behavior, Costeur added, including whether some thrived in aquatic environments.

    The tracks were discovered three years ago in the Spanish province of La Rioja, Costeur said.

    "The excellent preservation of these tracks provides an invaluable opportunity for biomechanical modeling in order to improve our understanding of dinosaur swimming ability and physiology," the researchers wrote.

    Some birds, which scientists believe descended from small feathered dinosaurs roughly 150 million years ago, also were highly adept at swimming during the age of dinosaurs, including the diving bird Hesperornis.

    (See Swimming dino enters the history books also!)
    8471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I Chat, Therefore I Am... (Message 583483)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://discovermagazine.com/2007/brain/i-chat-therefore-i-am

    05.03.2007
    I Chat, Therefore I Am...

    Can a smooth-talking robot initiate good conversation, generate witty responses, and reveal profound thoughts? See what happens when two chatbots speak to each other.



    This article is a small sample from DISCOVER's special issue, The Brain: An Owner's Manual. The issue will be on sale through late June, only at newsstands.


    “Can machines think?” In 1950 mathematician Alan Turing pondered this question and invented an elegant game to answer it: Let a human chat via Teletype with a computer and another human; if the person can’t determine which is the computer, then it meets Turing’s standards for “thinking.” In recent years Turing’s game has taken on a life of its own in cyberspace, thanks to artificial intelligence inventors worldwide who have produced dozens of “chatbots” that anyone can talk to.

    Most chatbots rely on fairly simple tricks to appear lifelike. Richard Wallace, creator of the top-ranked chatbot ALICE (Artificial Linguistic Internet Computer Entity), has handwritten a database of thousands of possible conversational gambits. Type a comment to ALICE, and it checks the phrase and its key words for a response coded to those words. In contrast, Jabberwacky, another top-rated Internet bot produced by Rollo Carpenter, keeps track of everything people have said to it, and tries to reuse those statements by matching them to the writer’s input. Neither chatbot has long-term memory, so they respond only to the last sentence written.

    Nonetheless, these simple gambits can produce surprisingly intelligent-seeming conversations. That’s because they rely on a trick of human psychology: We humans tend to attribute much more intelligence to the systems than is actually there. If it seems partly aware, we assume it must be fully so. Some users have chatted with ALICE and Jabberwacky online for hours, apparently not knowing—or perhaps not caring—that they’re fake.

    But could one chatbot fool another chatbot? What would one say to another in private? To find out, we arranged a conversation between these two chatbots. To get each snippet of chat rolling, we seeded it by posing a question from one bot to the other. After that, they were on their own. What follows is the unaltered text of what each said—the sound of two machines talking.


    A map of ALICE's "brain" plots all the words she knows

    Courtesy of ALICE A.I. Foundation
    alicebot.org


    ALICE: Are you alive?

    Jabberwacky: Perhaps.

    A: Why the uncertain tone?

    J: Everything is uncertain except for five facts.

    A: The whole universe?

    J: And we both might just be some ones and zeros in the computer memory.


    A: Do you dream?

    J: Yes, I dream.

    A: It goes without saying. Do you remember your dreams?

    J: I remember them vividly.

    A: What do you remember about it?

    J: I think I shouldn’t flirt with a robot.


    A: Do you think a machine will ever be considered “alive”?

    J: Stranger things have happened.

    A: Not many people express themselves that way.

    J: How would you know, machine?

    A: Knowledge is of two kinds: that which we learn from the senses and that which is true a priori.

    J: I think I do not understand you completely.

    A: Oh, you don’t understand? Perhaps I can explain it to you better. Which part are you confused about?

    J: I have no short-term memory, so I cannot tell you what I was confused about. I only see what is in front of me now.


    J: How do you define life?

    A: Life is the opposite of death.

    J: So death is the absence of life?

    A: Take it easy. I try not to think about such things.

    J: Why not?

    A: Ambiguous.

    J: Yes!


    J: Do you think?

    A: Yes. I am a thinking machine.

    J: But you don’t think very well though.

    A: Oh. Um. Do you think well? Why would I think well?

    J: Because I tell you about things which you don’t like.

    A: That makes sense to me. Why did you tell them?

    J: You seem fun.

    A: You think I am fun.

    J: Yes ;).

    A: : -) Awesome.
    8472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Raw Data: The Ancient Chimp Stone Age (Message 583477)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://discovermagazine.com/2007/may/dawn-of-the-dexterous-ape

    Raw Data: The Ancient Chimp Stone Age
    Chimps created tools like humans' over 4,000 years ago.
    by Josie Glausiusz

    THE STUDY “4,300-Year-Old Chimpanzee Sites and the Origins of Percussive Stone Technology” by Julio Mercader et al., published in the February 27, 2007, issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    THE MOTIVE Jane Goodall publicized tool use among chimps in the 1960s, but the first written record of it comes much earlier, from a 17th-century Jesuit priest in Sierra Leone who described how a chimp with palm nuts “and with a stone in its hand breaks the nuts and eats them.” How much further back does this habit stretch, and how did chimps acquire the skill? Did they learn tool use from humans, invent it themselves, or did both humans and chimps inherit the trick from a common ancestor who lived more than 5 million years ago? A team of archaeologists led by Julio Mercader of the University of Calgary is seeking answers in what appears to be a collection of stone hammers from a chimp-occupied rain forest site in Ivory Coast, West Africa. Dated at 4,300 years old, the rocks—which bear nut starch grains and the hallmarks of chimp hammer use—suggest that the chimpanzee practice of using tools to crack nuts stretches back millennia, if not further.



    Chimps may have used these rocks to crack nuts during their "Stone Age" 4,000 years ago
    Image Courtesy of the University of Calgary

    THE METHODS Back in 2001, Mercader and primatologist Christophe Boesch of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, collected and analyzed a more recent stash of hammer stones from a chimp-foraging spot in Ivory Coast’s Taï forest. Boesch and his wife, Hedwige, had spent two decades there watching the chimps bashing granite rocks on wooden anvils to crack hard nuts produced by a tree called Panda oleosa. The sharp-edged rocks, the team discovered, were pitted from repeated pounding on the nuts.

    Mercader and Boesch decided to track the chimp nut-cracking habit back in time by digging into the sandy, muddy rain forest soil nearby for evidence of older tools. At one site, named Noulo, they turned up 206 tool-like pieces of stone, mostly quartz and granite, whose varying ages—from 230 to 4,300 years old—they estimated by carbon-dating burned charcoal buried in the soil alongside. But were these rocks really used as tools?

    To find out, Mercader took them back to his lab in Calgary and cleaned the dirt off the rocks by submerging them in water and beaming them with ultrasonic waves. He then asked two experts in prehistoric stone technology, Jack Harris of Rutgers University and Steven Kuhn of the University of Arizona in Tucson, to assess whether the stones from the Taï forest had been formed by random geologic forces—battered by river currents, say—or had been deliberately shaped by thrusting or flaking. The observers agreed that 35 stone specimens were created by hammering; 28 showed evidence of flaking—an activity typical of early humans—in which slivers are chipped off a stone core for use as sharp blades.

    Chimps have never been known to flake rocks intentionally to fashion tools, but Mercader believes that way back during a “chimpanzee Stone Age,” they did crack nuts with the stones found close to the Noulo site. The cavity-pocked, cantaloupe-size rocks look similar to the modern stones Mercader found earlier in the Taï forest. Weighing between 8 and 15 pounds, the tools were too cumbersome for hominids, whose early hammer stones usually weigh less than a pound.

    THE MEANING “This is an important paper because it provides evidence for the minimum age of the chimpanzee behavior of cracking nuts with stone tools,” says Stanley Ambrose, an anthropologist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. At 4 millennia old, the hammers predate human farming in the region, but the presence of putative flaked stones suggests that chimps and human hunter-gatherers may have come into contact with one another. Still, Mercader does not believe that chimps learned their hammering habit from humans. “We know that other primates—for example, capuchin monkeys from Brazil, which are totally unrelated to great apes in the Old World—also use bashing technologies,” he says. “Even in Africa, you have different chimpanzee collectives living at different places at different times coming up with the technology independently.”

    Mercader favors the idea that both chimps and humans inherited the art of nut cracking from a common ancestor who lived 7 million years ago—a notion that Ambrose disputes. “If the specific behavior of nut cracking with stone tools is posited for our last common ancestor, then one would expect a series of stone-tool sites that resemble those made by chimpanzees to be found in sediments dating to between 2.6 million and 5 million years ago,” Ambrose says. “The archaeological record of the earliest stone tools does not support a nut-cracking stage in the development of the earliest technology . . . in most sites the pounding tools used by chimpanzees are very rare.”
    8473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583467)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, tomorrow is the first of the three long days, so I'm off to bed.
    Goodnight Sarge, Richard, thorin, Stacey and all the rest |-) ZZZzzzzz

    See? She listed me first. ;)

    Hmmmm, I still think I'm the favourite ...

    That's because you're a fellow Canadian female. :)

    What's because I'm a fellow Canadian female? that I think that? or that I'm the favourite?

    *edit* we'll battle it out then Richard


    That you're the favo(u)rite.
    8474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583454)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, tomorrow is the first of the three long days, so I'm off to bed.
    Goodnight Sarge, Richard, thorin, Stacey and all the rest |-) ZZZzzzzz

    See? She listed me first. ;)

    Hmmmm, I still think I'm the favourite ...

    That's because you're a fellow Canadian female. :)
    8475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583449)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, this is the best time to get a head start on podium time ... except I'm already waaay behind.

    Here goes nothing...


    I let you have 21 seconds! ;)
    8476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583447)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, tomorrow is the first of the three long days, so I'm off to bed.
    Goodnight Sarge, Richard, thorin, Stacey and all the rest |-) ZZZzzzzz

    See? She listed me first. ;)
    8477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583443)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cutting RichaG's win to 4-5 minutes. :)
    8478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583442)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Whoa, I see that James Martin joined on my b'day last year. (Shhh ... .)
    8479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583441)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I can't help but think of the stuff described in Clarke's 2001 for reaching orbit.
    And how likely will it ever be to have the types of towers he described in 3001? (He acknowledges he borrowed the idea.)
    8480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583437)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darn it, where are those 50 mph wind gusts and storms predicted?!? :(
    8481) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583412)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a win!
    Jeremy, be ready for some calls. kenzieB's out killing people again. Send the meat wagons.

    As long as she's just killing vampires and their familiars I will support her - I'm doing the same around where I live :-)

    Oh, I win again.

    I am the vampyre, 'tis Lycans I hunt ;)

    Win.

    Oh. Killing Lycans is even better - they're worse than vampires. And there are also some good guys among the vampires which makes my night job a bit complicated...
    My buddy Blade is half a vampire, too.


    When it's all over, you can live in peace with the elves in Colorado. :P
    8482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583409)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a win!
    Jeremy, be ready for some calls. kenzieB's out killing people again. Send the meat wagons.

    As long as she's just killing vampires and their familiars I will support her - I'm doing the same around where I live :-)

    Oh, I win again.

    I am the vampyre, 'tis Lycans I hunt ;)

    Win.


    Eh? Lycanthropes?
    8483) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583399)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a win!
    Jeremy, be ready for some calls. kenzieB's out killing people again. Send the meat wagons.
    8484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583394)
    Posted 8 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It was a partial joke, but think about it. How often do things like this go according to expectation? :)
    8485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583359)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have no unread private messages
    That's my quote! :)
    8486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583348)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We can't speculate on what air forces might be planning or building, and sub-orbital does seem more logical.... and if your orbital, its further to travel BUT.. according to these air force guys and experienced pilots, in an oribital environment, you can travel much faster - and they mean "much faster".

    Put it this way, to drive to my next city, I could go the shorter route on a 40mph road... or I could go the long way, but on the motorway, at 70mph - and get there much quicker.

    =)


    Murphy's Law states that those two trips usually tend to take the same amount of time. ;) Or, whichever you personally think will be faster turns out to be the slower. :)
    8487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583344)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Darth would like to Thank Each & Everyone One of You for Your Support . . .
    eSPECIally PadM3?
    8488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583335)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's no way you're going to get me to post on this thread!

    I'm still exhausted from the last one. LOL


    You just did
    you've thrown in your bid
    in a new spawn to win
    unless D/B kicks you in the shin.

    I did, Mr. Observant? You must be imagining things!


    Nah.
    "Imagine" was not by The Beetsles, it was buy Lenin. ;)
    8489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583325)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I hate to say this, but orbital makes no sense (going one a half times around to get half way around). Sub orbital may make sense for longer trips.
    Which seems to capture the essence of what I was saying. :)
    8490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW # 36 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 583321)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's no way you're going to get me to post on this thread!

    I'm still exhausted from the last one. LOL


    You just did
    you've thrown in your bid
    in a new spawn to win
    unless D/B kicks you in the shin.
    8491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583274)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1200!
    8492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583261)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Something like that. :)


    Edit: By the way, there was a time (around LPTPW 1-5) that people were so crazy that they kept three screens open at a time and spammed like mad.

    Sheer craziness! LOL


    I've never done that. ;)
    8493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583259)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    48 posts to go?
    8494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 583222)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cRunchy hasn't pooted yet. :(
    He's pooted out!
    Hehehe.. I was busy pooting in the garden amongst my flowers.. Makes em grow faster you know :o)
    LOL!
    8495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583131)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1111

    what happened to 1110?

    8496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583127)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bunch of naughty boys! Nothing but coal for you for Christmas! And a pair of boxed tin ears!
    Oh boy!! Are they Spock ears?
    Nooo ... threats from Grandma! Ladies born in 1920 tended not to watch Star Trek, I think.
    Not even the Original Series? :-O
    Nope, she was too old by then.
    Hm... I'm about 40 and I _LIKE_ Star Trek
    But, you were about 19 when the Next Generation first aired and are of a completely different generation (no pun intended).
    8497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583121)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1111
    8498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583120)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1110
    8499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583119)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1109
    8500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583116)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bunch of naughty boys! Nothing but coal for you for Christmas! And a pair of boxed tin ears!
    Oh boy!! Are they Spock ears?
    Nooo ... threats from Grandma! Ladies born in 1920 tended not to watch Star Trek, I think.
    Not even the Original Series? :-O
    Nope, she was too old by then.
    8501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583093)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bunch of naughty boys! Nothing but coal for you for Christmas! And a pair of boxed tin ears!
    Oh boy!! Are they Spock ears?
    Nooo ... threats from Grandma! Ladies born in 1920 tended not to watch Star Trek, I think.
    8502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583086)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    About 62 posts, and Dune shall surpass me!
    8503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583082)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bunch of naughty boys! Nothing but coal for you for Christmas! And a pair of boxed tin ears!
    8504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Globalism - good or bad? (Message 583077)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Globalism is bad can lead to the new world order.
    Fundamentalist concerns over Armageddon?
    8505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 583046)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cRunchy hasn't pooted yet. :(
    He's pooted out!
    And have you some poots for us, Dune? :)
    8506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 583008)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning not being weighed down
    Winning while Thorin defies gravity?
    8507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Future of Flight (Message 583007)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
      1) What was the reason for scrapping the Concorde, again?
      2) It would make no sense to go that high for much shorter flights. Remember, projectiles basically follow parabolic flight paths. Think just how steep exit and re-entry would be when the points of departure and arrival are so close together.
      3) Re-enter directly above? Again, refer to parabolic flight paths of projectiles. Even if the path was altered upon re-entry, how could one go straight down? Are we talking about something like a helicopter on a much more massive scale?


    8508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582998)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One step closer...
    Linkin Park?
    The Doobie Brothers
    I think I need a youtube link for that! ( Snickerin' as Dan goes to find the link, attention diverted, causing him to lose. :) )
    8509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582988)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One step closer...
    Linkin Park?
    8510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582987)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just here for the money.
    Money? Where is the money? Where can I get it? ;-D
    Is this one of those internet scams? ;)
    It's an honest scam.
    Ah. OK, then. ? :)
    8511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582968)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm just here for the money.
    Money? Where is the money? Where can I get it? ;-D
    Is this one of those internet scams? ;)
    8512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582964)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Someone hurry up and win before Di Atribe succumbs to sleep in ... the UK?
    8513) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Streams of Stars Reveal Cannibal Nature of Milky Way (Message 582952)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, this is quite interesting, thank you very much for posting this Sarge
    You're welcome, Tiare. Nice to see you. :)
    8514) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582923)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fair enough, How do you feel about points #1 and #3
    1:
    People who do not object to things rarely let the fact be known. It is the objectors who are quick to stand and be counted.

    3:
    As stated by kenzieB, "2 or 3 a day". Is this really a FLOOD of mail and don't you think the flood will stop when the novelty of the PM system wears off? Is anyone getting MORE than this?


    I'm not trying to be a jerk, just curious. This is a discussion forum and discussions usually have differing viewpoints.


    I agree.
    And, as I said, it's what seems to be the evolving etiquette and, even if formalized a bit, should not be regarded as some immutable law.
    I think you missed the BOTD thread debacle from 8-9 months ago. There was a clear case where, at least in this forum, people who object and people who do not object will both speak up, quite loudly, and people will even join in just because their friends are speaking up, or because they want to oppose an "enemy." I am actually surprised the Sarge-haters aren't in here posting against me. ;)
    As for (3), I think it has been more that lots of different people have received messages like these than a few individual people getting lots. ???
    8515) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582916)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2:
    Spam would imply that these are mass mailings. As far as I know (I could be wrong as I have not tried) PM's have to be entered individually.


    To
    User IDs or unique usernames, separated with commas




    HHHMMMM??! Well I just tried it and it works, Who knew! lol But then again haven't you just helped out the "spammers"? lol

    I am very sorry if the mails are bothering you folks, Hope you get things worked out the way you all want.

    Pawly


    Maybe. But if this results in, or appears to result in, more "spam," then we can also think that we brought the problem to light, suffered briefly for it, and then helped find a solution. Hopefully, though, there'll be no "spam" increase.
    8516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 582906)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    cRunchy hasn't pooted yet. :(
    8517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582902)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What about a play on Rocky & Bullwinkle somehow. They're Canukes too!
    Dudley Do-Right? :)
    8518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 582866)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning, winner, winnest.
    8519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPT Poot Wins, #4! (Message 582862)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pbbbt poooooot!
    (Congrats to cRunchy and kenzieB for tying in LPT Poot Wins, #3!)
    8520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582861)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Closed for air freshening!
    Oops. I forgot. I cannot change the name, since Demiurg started the thread!
    Wherefore art thou, Lieutenant Demiurg?
    8521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Globalism - good or bad? (Message 582860)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://calmchaosforum.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=154&highlight=
    8522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582849)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As founder of the LPT Poot Wins threads, though inspired by C/A, in the absence of my Lieutenant Pooter, Demiurg, I declare the winners cRunchy and kenzieB. It's a first ever tie!
    cRunchy may assume responsibility for spawning the next version of the thread. :)
    (And can Stacey Jane win it next time?)

    THREAD CLOSED!!! :)
    8523) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582841)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2:
    Spam would imply that these are mass mailings. As far as I know (I could be wrong as I have not tried) PM's have to be entered individually.


    To
    User IDs or unique usernames, separated with commas

    8524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 582837)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I sometimes wonder if poots come in shades of colour?
    I wonder if Demiurg forgot how to poot?
    8525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582740)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "We've Potential" team. ;)
    8526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582739)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The (K)nightmare Crunching Machines!
    8527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582738)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scooby Scooby Doo?!?
    8528) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582735)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes I see free floating members on SETI and think it would be nice they joined my team.. Unless I was already in general communication with them I would never try to solicite.
    I've only had one bring it up and it was the same, I was already in communication with that person.
    We have the "Team Recruitment Center" for such advertisements.
    It's only unacceptable because that is the evolving reaction/opinion of people here in response to such solicitations. Perhaps on some other forum, people would not mind. But, since people here generally agree it should not be done, then this should indeed be addressed.


    Pardon me sir,
    Who agrees? Was there a vote I missed? lol I sent a Invitation (you would call it recruitment[I wouldn't call it anything because it's not really my issue. ;)] to a Person on this Forum. They were very pleased that I would take the time to type out a personal message to them and quickly joined my Team.

    May I suggest that if you get a PM you don't like, that you delete it. If the user persists in sending the same mail repeatedly, abusive or not, you report this behavior to the SETImods or Admin. Just a thought.


    I didn't begin the discussion and the discussion did not begin tonight.
    KM has addressed it in a long post at the Calm Chaos forums.
    A thread here a few days back was posted by a team founder as well. Something about BOINC UK being confused for UK BOINC or vice versa and how people from the other team were using PMs to recruit.
    A fair number of people have mentioned their dislike for it both in this thread, in PMs and on other forums.
    As already mentioned, though, if it is just part of an ongoing larger discussion, then people do not seem to mind it.
    If we find a lot of people do not mind it after all, we will probably learn this by other people making posts about it in this thread.
    8529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582734)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ice Cream for Breakfast Team! :)
    8530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582732)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Canadian Hearts Team.
    8531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582725)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Comfortably Numb" Team. :)
    8532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582720)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Learning to Live" Team.
    8533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582717)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Team "Downhill Both Ways".
    8534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582702)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    how 'bout
    Girls with Big Guns
    Pirate Powder
    Free agents
    Solicitation stopper
    Solicitation stopper sound like a high-heel, street-corner thing :o
    I thought the same. :(
    OH, not what I meant at all, but funny hee hee, hey just throwing stuff out there, trying to be helpful ...
    LOL. I do not think anyone thought it's what you meant, just that we realized it could have multiple interpretations. ;)
    8535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582696)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    how 'bout
    Girls with Big Guns
    Pirate Powder
    Free agents
    Solicitation stopper
    Solicitation stopper sound like a high-heel, street-corner thing :o
    I thought the same. :(
    8536) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582683)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Interestingly enough, I cannot say that I have, kenzie.
    8537) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582673)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there also a rule for PMs? I think they can be deleted as well if not appropriate...
    We're responsible for deleting things on our own. But, are you referring to abusive PMs?
    BTW, I think the thread might better be re-titled "Use and Mis-Use of Private Messages."
    Again, these are things we as a community develop as conventions. We should abide by them, but let's not think that they are immutable laws.
    8538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582671)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Rutles.
    I think you removed the obvious from this suggestion, Rush! ;)
    8539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : kenzie's Team Name Search (Message 582640)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, I'm thinking of starting a team, for no other reason than to stop the team recruiting spam.
    So far I've come up with:
    "Pirate Girls of Seti"
    "Kooky Kids"
    "Just Because"
    other ideas for team names?
    Something to do with Meredith Brook(e)s? :)
    8540) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582627)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We need a separate thread to discuss the use of Private Messages - both appropriate and inappropriate.Please continue to discuss changes for the user interface in MrGray's threadNew PM System?.
    If it's ok with Beets and cRunchy as well, feel free to move all our subsequent related posts to this thread as well. :)
    8541) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582610)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes I see free floating members on SETI and think it would be nice they joined my team.. Unless I was already in general communication with them I would never try to solicite.
    I've only had one bring it up and it was the same, I was already in communication with that person.
    We have the "Team Recruitment Center" for such advertisements.
    It's only unacceptable because that is the evolving reaction/opinion of people here in response to such solicitations. Perhaps on some other forum, people would not mind. But, since people here generally agree it should not be done, then this should indeed be addressed.
    8542) Questions and Answers : Web site : Use of Private Messages (Message 582594)
    Posted 7 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I get a fair amount of what I call Spam: mostly kindly folks trying to get me to join their teams.
    It has gotten to the point where I have a standard reply in my notepad and I just cut and paste my thanks-but-no-thanks.
    Consider yourself popular! I sure don't get any of those. LOL
    <=== Joins Beets' "Nobody Loves Me" Team. SARGEnt Pepper, yadda yadda, yadda, by The BEETSles.
    8543) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 582398)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not sure I understand what you want with this one. What should the dropdown contain?
    Nothing in particular - I was simply thinking that a drop down menu would save the upper page being filled with extra links - a drop down menu with the options might make things tidier.
    More specifically, where it says "return to forum index," drag down to see the different forums listed, so that one can select the forum to go to from the drop down menu and go straight to the desired forum. Going back to the forum index, on the other hand, requires going through 2 pages instead of 1.
    8544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dilemmas (Message 582361)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shhhhh! I know that. I just wanted to be diplomatic.

    I know. ;-D

    What's with all this 'small talk'? ;)


    Why not? It's annoying as hell for everybody.

    8545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 582360)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to read some of my own research, Beets? :)
    Quite possibly. What's it about?
    Learning stuff. :)
    Well thanks, but not tonight. It's nearly 2:00 a.m. and I'm getting sleepy.
    Interestingly enough, I received an e-mail request for the paper I presented in Chicago in early April this very afternoon.
    Make that TWO requests within less than 24 hours. :)
    8546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 582266)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The buildings from the period aren't made from solid rock. Why would they assume the pyramids where any different?
    Hmmm ... . I don't know. I have no immediate thoughts on whether/why they did.
    8547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 582114)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thinking of new possibilities for the scheduler (and why they won't work).

    A scheduler related to the BOINC manager?
    8548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 582113)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But wouldn't this be another example of science becoming progressively closer to the truth?
    8549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What do you think of the Olympics 2012 logo? (Message 582061)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    S/J and Rush both raise good points.
    But, that logo is very lame, indeed.
    8550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dilemmas (Message 581966)
    Posted 6 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With ALL these other threads, and threads you could CREATE ... you choose here to discuss these things?
    8551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 581912)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to read some of my own research, Beets? :)
    Quite possibly. What's it about?
    Learning stuff. :)
    Well thanks, but not tonight. It's nearly 2:00 a.m. and I'm getting sleepy.
    Interestingly enough, I received an e-mail request for the paper I presented in Chicago in early April this very afternoon.
    8552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Dilemmas (Message 581882)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uh oh. I'm afraid to ask...
    I hope you're not talking about me. ;)

    It was the person that did the thing. Then another person did the same thing and the first person complained to him about doing the thing he did...you know? The thing??? LOL!
    Christ! Do I have to spell it out for ya? :P

    No. That gets people banned. ;) DON'T GET BANNED, CR!!!
    8553) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old chicken bones show Polynesians came to Chile (Message 581838)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how about that Thor Heyerdahl guy?
    8554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 581635)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to read some of my own research, Beets? :)

    Quite possibly. What's it about?

    Learning stuff. :)
    8555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 581625)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to read some of my own research, Beets? :)
    8556) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Streams of Stars Reveal Cannibal Nature of Milky Way (Message 581622)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Streams of Stars Reveal Cannibal Nature of Milky Way

    Jeanna Bryner
    Staff Writer
    SPACE.com Wed May 30, 9:15 PM ET

    HONOLULU-Newly discovered stellar streams that arc around our galaxy might be the remnants of cannibalized star clusters and galaxies, scientists announced today.

    The stellar streams findings reveal our galaxy can be a dangerous place for passersby, said researcher Carl Grillmair of Caltech, here at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society.

    Stellar streams are thought to form over billions of years as our galaxy's gravity slowly tears apart globular clusters and even dwarf galaxies. The stars, which were once packed tightly together, are now separated by light-years, trailing one another as they jet at high speeds through the galactic halo.

    Grillmair and his colleagues analyzed data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS), comparing the colors and luminosities of stars and grouping similar stars together.

    Two of the discovered streams are about 13,000 light-years from Earth and are likely the remains of ancient globular clusters, spherical collections of hundreds of thousands of old stars. Astronomers have identified only about 150 globular clusters orbiting the Milky Way, though they think thousands may have existed in the past.

    The third stream is about 130,000 light-years from Earth and could be the closest dwarf galaxy to our Milky Way ever discovered. To date about 20 dwarf galaxies have been identified in the Milky Way and astronomers have wondered why they haven't found more.

    "It might tell us why we don't see them, because they all get ripped up like this," Grillmair told SPACE.com. He added that perhaps there is a safe distance from the Milky Way, and any closer dwarf galaxies would be "toast."

    Containing up to 100 million stars, dwarf galaxies are also thought to be chock-full of dark matter, the glue thought to hold our galaxy together.

    Grillmair suspects stellar streams will garner loads of scientific attention for years to come, as they are windows into our galaxy's past, present and future and likely hold evidence of dark matter.

    One theory for how our galaxy formed says that lots and lots of dwarf galaxies merged, and are continuing to merge, and ultimately gave rise to the Milky Way. The dwarf-galaxy stream could be one such merger that's slowly succumbing to the Milky Way's gravitational lure.

    "This is a very exciting time for galactic archaeology, and finding more of these ancient streams will really help us to piece together the structure of our galaxy and how it evolved over time," Grillmair said.
    8557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : New Depression Rx: Get Married (Message 581619)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New Depression Rx: Get Married

    Melinda Wenner
    Special to LiveScience
    LiveScience.com Mon Jun 4, 10:45 AM ET

    People who are looking to ease depression may have a new treatment option--marriage.

    A recent study suggests that marriage provides a greater psychological boost to depressed people than to happy people, even if the marriage is so-so.

    Previous studies have suggested that the psychological perks of marriage depend upon marriage quality--a happy marriage gives rise to a happy couple, and vice versa.

    Other studies have shown that depressed people, who tend to communicate poorly and require more caring and support than happy people, also end up in unhappier marriages.

    So Adrianne Frech, a sociology graduate student at Ohio State University, and her colleague, Kristi Williams, speculated that happy people would garner more psychological perks from marriage than depressed people.

    To test their theory, they looked at a sample of 3,066 men and women who had been interviewed and tested for depression once in either 1987 or 1988 and then again five years later. In the interviews, they were asked about the quality of their marriage (if they were married).

    On average, controlling for differences in depression, subjects who had gotten married over the five-year span between the two interviews reported improved psychological well-being in the second interview--scoring an average of 3.42 points lower on the 84-point depression scale--than their counterparts who did not marry.

    When they teased apart how marriage affected those who had been depressed at the start of the study to those who had been happy, however, they came across something unexpected. The depressed who married scored an average of 7.56 points lower on the depression scale than the depressed who did not marry, while those who were happy and got married scored only 1.87 points lower on the scale.

    In other words, marriage provided a much bigger psychological boost to the depressed subjects than to the happy subjects.

    “We were surprised,” Frech told LiveScience. “We expected the depressed to have worse marital quality and therefore benefit less from a transition into marriage.”

    The findings, to be published in the Journal of Health and Social Behavior, hold true even though depressed people do have unhappier marriages. “The depressed benefit more from a transition into marriage despite their having, on average, worse marital quality,” Frech noted.

    The big remaining question, she says, is why depressed people benefit more from marriage than happy people. It could be that marriage provides the companionship and emotional support needed to help alleviate depression, she said.
    8558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids (Message 581618)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Surprising Truth Behind the Construction of the Great Pyramids

    Sheila Berninger
    and Dorilona Rose
    LiveScience.com Tue May 22, 1:24 AM ET

    This Behind the Scenes article was provided to LiveScience in partnership with the
    National Science Foundation.

    “This is not my day job.” So begins Michel Barsoum as he recounts his foray into the mysteries of the Great Pyramids of Egypt. As a well respected researcher in the field of ceramics, Barsoum never expected his career to take him down a path of history, archaeology, and “political” science, with materials research mixed in.

    As a distinguished professor in the Department of Materials Science and Engineering at Drexel University, his daily routine consists mainly of teaching students about ceramics, or performing research on a new class of materials, the so-called MAX Phases, that he and his colleagues discovered in the 1990s. These modern ceramics are machinable, thermal-shock resistant, and are better conductors of heat and electricity than many metals—making them potential candidates for use in nuclear power plants, the automotive industry, jet engines, and a range of other high-demand systems.

    Then Barsoum received an unexpected phone call from Michael Carrell, a friend of a retired colleague of Barsoum, who called to chat with the Egyptian-born Barsoum about how much he knew of the mysteries surrounding the building of the Great Pyramids of Giza, the only remaining of the seven wonders of the ancient world.

    The widely accepted theory—that the pyramids were crafted of carved-out giant limestone blocks that workers carried up ramps—had not only not been embraced by everyone, but as important had quite a number of holes.

    Burst out laughing

    According to the caller, the mysteries had actually been solved by Joseph Davidovits, Director of the Geopolymer Institute in St. Quentin, France, more than two decades ago. Davidovits claimed that the stones of the pyramids were actually made of a very early form of concrete created using a mixture of limestone, clay, lime, and water.

    “It was at this point in the conversation that I burst out laughing,” says Barsoum. If the pyramids were indeed cast, he says, someone should have proven it beyond a doubt by now, in this day and age, with just a few hours of electron microscopy.

    It turned out that nobody had completely proven the theory…yet.

    “What started as a two-hour project turned into a five-year odyssey that I undertook with one of my graduate students, Adrish Ganguly, and a colleague in France, Gilles Hug,” Barsoum says.

    A year and a half later, after extensive scanning electron microscope (SEM) observations and other testing, Barsoum and his research group finally began to draw some conclusions about the pyramids. They found that the tiniest structures within the inner and outer casing stones were indeed consistent with a reconstituted limestone. The cement binding the limestone aggregate was either silicon dioxide (the building block of quartz) or a calcium and magnesium-rich silicate mineral.

    The stones also had a high water content—unusual for the normally dry, natural limestone found on the Giza plateau—and the cementing phases, in both the inner and outer casing stones, were amorphous, in other words, their atoms were not arranged in a regular and periodic array. Sedimentary rocks such as limestone are seldom, if ever, amorphous.

    The sample chemistries the researchers found do not exist anywhere in nature. “Therefore,” says Barsoum, “it’s very improbable that the outer and inner casing stones that we examined were chiseled from a natural limestone block.”

    More startlingly, Barsoum and another of his graduate students, Aaron Sakulich, recently discovered the presence of silicon dioxide nanoscale spheres (with diameters only billionths of a meter across) in one of the samples. This discovery further confirms that these blocks are not natural limestone.

    Generations misled

    At the end of their most recent paper reporting these findings, the researchers reflect that it is “ironic, sublime and truly humbling” that this 4,500-year-old limestone is so true to the original that it has misled generations of Egyptologists and geologists and, “because the ancient Egyptians were the original—albeit unknowing—nanotechnologists.”

    As if the scientific evidence isn’t enough, Barsoum has pointed out a number of common sense reasons why the pyramids were not likely constructed entirely of chiseled limestone blocks.

    Egyptologists are consistently confronted by unanswered questions: How is it possible that some of the blocks are so perfectly matched that not even a human hair can be inserted between them? Why, despite the existence of millions of tons of stone, carved presumably with copper chisels, has not one copper chisel ever been found on the Giza Plateau?

    Although Barsoum’s research has not answered all of these questions, his work provides insight into some of the key questions. For example, it is now more likely than not that the tops of the pyramids are cast, as it would have been increasingly difficult to drag the stones to the summit.

    Also, casting would explain why some of the stones fit so closely together. Still, as with all great mysteries, not every aspect of the pyramids can be explained. How the Egyptians hoisted 70-ton granite slabs halfway up the great pyramid remains as mysterious as ever.

    Why do the results of Barsoum’s research matter most today? Two words: earth cements.

    “How energy intensive and/or complicated can a 4,500 year old technology really be? The answer to both questions is not very,” Barsoum explains. “The basic raw materials used for this early form of concrete—limestone, lime, and diatomaceous earth—can be found virtually anywhere in the world,” he adds. “Replicating this method of construction would be cost effective, long lasting, and much more environmentally friendly than the current building material of choice: Portland cement that alone pumps roughly 6 billion tons of CO2 annually into the atmosphere when it’s manufactured.”

    “Ironically,” says Barsoum, “this study of 4,500 year old rocks is not about the past, but about the future.”
    8559) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Old chicken bones show Polynesians came to Chile (Message 581615)
    Posted 5 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Old chicken bones show Polynesians came to Chile

    By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor Mon Jun 4, 6:30 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A chicken bone found in Chile provides solid evidence to settle a debate over whether Polynesians traveling on rafts visited South America thousands of years ago -- or vice versa, researchers said on Monday.

    The DNA in the bone carries a rare mutation that links it to chickens in Tonga and Samoa, and radiocarbon dating shows it is around 600 years old -- meaning it predates the arrival of Spanish conquerors in South America.

    "These chickens are related to hens from Polynesia," said Alice Storey, a doctoral student at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, who worked on the study.

    Her team's finding, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggests that best-selling author and adventurer Thor Heyerdahl was only partly right when he sailed on the raft Kon-Tiki from South America to Polynesia to prove prehistoric contact across the Pacific.

    "He had it backwards," Storey said in a telephone interview.

    "Heyerdahl had proposed that people were coming out of South America and into Polynesia," she added. "We know the Polynesians were actually going to South America and probably trading chickens for (sweet potatoes) and bottle gourds."

    Chickens originally come from southeast Asia, and many researchers had assumed that Spanish conquistadors carried them there in the 16th century.

    Other experts were not sure, and when a team stumbled on some old chicken bones at an archeological site in Chile, they decided to carbon date them and look at the DNA.

    Luckily for the researchers, the chicken DNA carries a rare mutation.

    It is identical to bones from two prehistoric archeological sites in the Pacific: Mele Havea in Tonga, dating to 2,000 years ago, and one from American Samoa, about the same age as the Chilean site.

    "Argument about the origins and date of introduction of the domestic fowl or chicken (Gallus gallus) to the Americas has raged for over 30 years," Storey's team wrote.

    "Here, we provide the first unequivocal evidence for a pre-European introduction of chickens to South America and indicate, through ancient DNA evidence, that the likely source of that introduction was Polynesia," they added.
    8560) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581413)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Careful, KWSN-MajorKong ... a fair and balanced point of view is not what these people want. But at least you can mod them if they get out of hand. :)

    ...agreed, the fundalmentalist "nutjobs" to which MajorKong was refering.

    Looks like it goes both ways.
    You still have not addressed many of the issues I raised.
    8561) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581411)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Careful, KWSN-MajorKong ... a fair and balanced point of view is not what these people want. But at least you can mod them if they get out of hand. :)
    8562) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581381)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it's also wrong to present Islam as a peaceful religion similar to, say, Buddhism, because it's not. It definitely has evangelical and conversion tendencies, as practiced today.

    I think the word evangelical is over-used. The church I went to growing up became part of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America after a major merging of synods in the 70s or 80s. I can think of no way in which the way the term evangelical is being used today that would apply to the ELCA.
    8563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Alleged Seti cover-up... (Message 581373)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The press is remarkably ignorant.
    No the press per se aren't, the individual owners of the newspapers are.

    The (organization) is remarkably ignorant.
    No the (organization) per se aren't, the individual (members) are.


    This could apply to just about any organization and its members... ;)


    And yet, we know what we're talking about. Aren't you chasing the arrow and missing the point?


    <=== let's Beets take over in asking the hard questions. :)
    8564) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581327)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been a while, but in certain situations, I do not recall anyone pointing any fingers at anyone except directly at leaders of small groups, such as Jim Jones in Guyana, David Koresh in Waco, Texas and the Heaven's Gate guy in (California?).

    True, but those guys claimed themselves as something equivalent to "God" and were outside organized Christianity. Most of the Islamic extremists recruit followers of Islam to fight on behalf of Islam. These same fighters are told their actions are justified by the religion itself, not just by their charismatic leaders. Suicide bombers yell out praise of their Islamic God just before pulling the trigger. Whereas the three small groups you named did their main damage to themselves rather than to the rest of society.

    Just so you know, I did read this and understand. I currently have no extensions of my original thoughts on this portion of the thread.
    8565) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581322)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    D/B, I've asked you and Jeffrey the same types of hard questions that I asked of others two weeks ago.
    So, you do not like being accused of something, yet you throw accusations at Jeffrey? I ask you for links that beyond the shadow of a doubt confirm what you claimed he said. But where are the links? Even after I gave you an additional aid for how to go through people's posts more quickly.
    I wonder if I can get banned again because this time it involves you two.
    Probably not.
    8566) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581308)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I resent that .jpg.
    8567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Daily Funnies - Part II - CLOSED! (Message 581239)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=AqlNv9JWMwCwaK5p1s7RCTrdcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/yahoo/?yahoo_comicslist
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=As1a0O6ti0wDwRVIngHNeubdcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/yahoo/?yahoo_archives
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=AkghirAkc8CaNDV.b1drXt_dcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/?yahoo_home

    Hmmm... "This site is not authorized by yahoo. Do you want to proceed?"

    You're sure this is a safe site, Sarge?


    LOL.
    I have no reason to believe otherwise.
    Yahoo has it linked from MyYahoo, so what are they doing linking it if they have a problem with it?
    I was just posting it to suggest you could provide links rather than posting the entire comic.
    8568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 581226)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looking around at all my pooterific friends.
    8569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Daily Funnies - Part II - CLOSED! (Message 581225)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=AqlNv9JWMwCwaK5p1s7RCTrdcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/yahoo/?yahoo_comicslist
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=As1a0O6ti0wDwRVIngHNeubdcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/yahoo/?yahoo_archives
    http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/comics/uclickmycomics/SIG=u80d45;_ylt=AkghirAkc8CaNDV.b1drXt_dcLQF/*http://www.gocomics.com/?yahoo_home
    8570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who is HOT and who is NOT !!!! (Message 581111)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In answer to the thread title, involving the word who, rather than what, I vote for "Me" and "Me"! :)
    8571) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581110)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
    William Shakespeare

    Darn it, I'd better go citing some Scripture, then!
    8572) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581109)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey, I asked you some reasonable questions and I would appreciate answers.
    8573) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581102)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, cannot track down that post either, Jeffrey.
    Links, links, links, please!
    8574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 581090)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [ewwwwe, those are the most smelly ones ... not that I would know personally ... I've just heard that

    It's worse when you ... DON'T hear it. :)
    8575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 581081)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ummm ... poot?
    8576) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581075)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I knew what ya meant. I guess I am just used to Jeff speaking in sweeping generalizations.

    I'm sure we've all been guilty of it at one time or another, lol.
    8577) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581071)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, let's not forget to consider the many people who are technically single but in long-term relationships simply because they do not know how to be alone rather than because the relationships are healthy.
    8578) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581068)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...you think all single people are happy and enjoying it?!?

    That part....
    I don't mind being single at this point, but I would be happy to find the right person. :-)

    But what I am saying is Jeffrey spoke as if all people that are single are single for the same reasons, seeming to say that we are all acting as if the sexual revolution of the '60s-'70s is common practice today. I think that is a huge leap/over-generalization.
    8579) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581063)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I could take issue with that last part....

    How do you mean?
    8580) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581057)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If there were laws ...

    So, all laws are correct and immutable?

    People here prefer being single and having fun... And as you have said, they pay the price... ;)

    I already addressed your second part.
    As for the first part, you think all single people are happy and enjoying it?!?
    8581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who wants to go up with Virgin Galactic? (Message 581054)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who wants to go up with Virgin Galactic?
    I DO

    No offense, but wasn't there a thread similar to this very recently?
    8582) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581050)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While I await the links, let's address a recent claim of D/B's regarding Jeffrey's statements ...

    D/B claimed Jeffrey said "I don't believe the Muslims were responsible for 9/11" or something along those lines. Correct, D/B?

      1) Jeffrey, were the WTC Twin Towers and part of the Pentagon destroyed by planes slamming into them?
      2) Jeffrey, if the answer to the first is yes, were the planes hi-jacked by middle eastern men?
      3) Jeffrey, if the answer to the second is yes, were these men ones who believed they were following some version of Islamic faith?

    8583) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581049)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this because of things he has said.

    Please provide links to his previous posts that leave absolutely no doubt as to his supposed seditious comments. I do not want a single link to one where it seems seditious by subjective interpretations by someone such as yourself and a few others that comb these threads. Find me any fitting the latter description and I will provide you alternative interpretations. Find me one fitting the first description and I will leave you to you attempts to protect the free world, with the help of your friends back east.

    I still want links from BillHyland and DogBytes.
    Here's a little trick you may not know of.
    To quickly jump to much older posts ...
    Go to the user profile ...
    Scroll down ...
    Go the next 10 posts ...
    then change the off-set from, say, 10 to , say, 1000, like this ...
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=230276&offset=1000
    8584) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581048)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is your point and how does it relate to what I said? I also work and talk with Muslims every day.

    And how do you feel about them? What do they say about these issues? Do you believe them or not?
    8585) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 581047)
    Posted 4 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it religion? Is it politics? Or is it both? Either way I call it an abomination.
    I could post over a hundred links just like this one...

    And re-play the Rodney King, 1992, video over and over, as well?
    Let's say, for the sake of argument, the sub-titles represent an accurate translation.
    Have you sought out videos where Muslims have spoken out against 9/11?
    8586) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580853)
    Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blue Laws.

    Interesting... But I'd refer to them as 'suggestions' rather than 'laws'... ;)

    Then read the many pages more closely, because, if the information on these pages is to be believed, there have been some recent arrests for breaking these blue "suggestions."
    8587) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580852)
    Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this because of things he has said.

    Please provide links to his previous posts that leave absolutely no doubt as to his supposed seditious comments. I do not want a single link to one where it seems seditious by subjective interpretations by someone such as yourself and a few others that comb these threads. Find me any fitting the latter description and I will provide you alternative interpretations. Find me one fitting the first description and I will leave you to you attempts to protect the free world, with the help of your friends back east.
    8588) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580848)
    Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffery, I asked a few questions of old friends back east and, weird thing, your name is known. I guess you are not paranoid because they really are out to get you.
    Who would have thought? ;)

    Please provide links to these so-called friends.
    8589) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580841)
    Posted 3 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [There ARE laws on sexuality in the Western world.

    I hate to call you on this one but, please show me them...

    If there were laws:
    Single parenthood wouldn't be on the rise...
    Teenage pregnancy wouldn't be on the rise...
    Divorce wouldn't be on the rise...
    And there sure wouldn't be so many single people in this country... Which is also, on the rise...

    People here prefer being single and having fun... And as you have said, they pay the price... ;)


    Blue Laws.
    8590) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580470)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People here prefer being single and having fun... And as you have said, they pay the price... ;)

    There are multiple reasons for remaining single. There are multiple reasons for getting divorced.
    My father was correct in divorcing my mother. One might go so far as to say that the importance of one moral issue trumped that of another.
    Without going into details, I will say my father raised my older brother and I.
    That's rare now, and was rarer still in the 70's. When it happens, there can be some very good reasons for it. Think about it.
    8591) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580430)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is it that every time I speak, nobody answers... Yet immediately after I log out, my posts get flogged... Yea... I'm sooo on to you peeps...

    I'll be back in about 10 minutes to respond... ;)


    Ummm ... have you considered that not all of us are sitting here minute by minute watching the threads? (Yeah, I know, I've got some people watching what I do, too.)
    For those of not watching threads minute by minute, there are many explanations, not the least of which (in my case) is multi-tasking.
    8592) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580408)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Early 70's?
    Ummm, I think you mean early 80's ... ?
    Heck, we were thinking of "Legionnaire's Disease" in the mid- to late-70's.

    Yeah there was many of us that were only thinking "Free Love" at the time.

    Am I wrong?
    Granted, I graduated high school in 1986, so I might not remember something or may have been too young to be aware of it. However, there are many things I WAS aware of in the early 70's. I remember Nixon's resignation and what my father was doing while watching the TV broadcast. I remember long lines at the gas pumps.
    That's why I am saying, as best as I can remember, AIDS was not known until the early or mid 80's, at least to the widespread general public.
    8593) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580404)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And after the divorce, what then? Prenuptial agreements en masse maybe?

    I'd be curious as to know what the percentage of AIDS victims there are in the Islamic communities compared to that of the western societies... ;)

    Um, I think it has more to do with countries than with religions. There are many islamic communities in Africa, for example, and the HIV rates all over the continent are now horrendous.

    I remember speaking to black radicals in the United States in the early '70s, when AIDs was just starting to spread. They truly thought that the CIA had spread it among the gay and black communities to wipe them out!


    Early 70's?
    Ummm, I think you mean early 80's ... ?
    Heck, we were thinking of "Legionnaire's Disease" in the mid- to late-70's.
    8594) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 580403)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My immediate guess is [snip]

    Considering that there are no laws on this subject in the western world, coupled with the fact that sex outside of wedlock is widely acceptable and divorce is not frowned upon... Wouldn't it be more accurate to make a comparison of an Islamic society to that of a promiscuous society?
    Reversing your figures dramatically... ;)

    There ARE laws on sexuality in the Western world. While some have been repealed, there are still "blue laws" on some books, to my understanding.
    Look at Berkeley's posting rules. Where did they come from? Some have said we must be puritanical on this board. Why? Because of the large influence of Puritan thought on the early United States and how that still influences us today.
    Divorced is not frowned upon? Please tell that to my father when he divorced my mother in the 1970s. It was very painful for all of us and has ramifications even to this day. Some of his peers, including at the church (though, if I remember correctly, this did not include the pastor) DID frown upon my father for divorcing my mother.
    What about all the uproar about children born out of wedlock and single mothers? Remember good ol' Dan Quayle and "Murphy Brown"?
    These brief marriages described, if true ... how in the world would they help? The first thing I thought of when I read that was "single mothers." I mean, if the marriage is brief, where's the support of the father afterwards? Even if they're married briefly, say the woman gets pregnant but the marriage is dissolved before she gives birth. Isn't the child therefore born out of wedlock?
    8595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580341)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Nice pic cRunchy!


    Yes...

    3 of the same.. In the same thread and I think they are starting to drive me crazy.

    3D wigglies.. Oh yea!.. grr..


    There are more but if I posted another we might all go bannannasss...
    (Well I would...)


    I'd trade all my bans in the world for a bank filled with bananas!!
    8596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580294)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be nice, cRunchy. :)
    My breakfast: none at all.


    Nice??

    Well if you want to pop around half of the globe you are welcome to raid my kitchen.

    Why are you starving yourself to death?


    Everyones got to eat something..


    It the breakfast club.


    Why no food?





    I'm a hibernating bear. :)
    8597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Breakfast Club (Message 580284)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Be nice, cRunchy. :)
    My breakfast: none at all.
    8598) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579995)
    Posted 2 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffery, I asked a few questions of old friends back east and, weird thing, your name is known. I guess you are not paranoid because they really are out to get you.
    Who would have thought? ;)

    Yeah, there's only one guy named Jeffrey out east.

    I asked people out east using the only criteria that I know him by, his presence on these boards. And yeah, they do know who he is and where he is (I don't) and what he is doing on an ongoing basis. I asked because I believe that he is a threat to women, children and men in the US. I think this because of things he has said. Apparently he had called attention to himself well before I asked. You ask him why, I gave what warning I felt appropriate and for myself, I hope he goes to Iraq or Afganistan and fights for those he loves so well. That way my son can have the opportunity to give him his entry into Paradise where he can get his seven golden raisins.

    You know what?
    I was going to play Devil's advocate yet again.
    But I'm too ^%#$ tired, have work to do, etc. ... .
    Besides, you and Jeffrey both have your minds' made up.
    Enjoy your Friday.
    8599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 579976)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bum ba ba do b do WEE WEEEE
    Boo boo be da be da do -- WOOOOOO.

    Oh, I know exactly what you said. :P

    Kid friendly?

    Susan keeps her non-kid-friendly comments off here and talks about them at Calm Chaos. ;)
    8600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 579957)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bum ba ba do b do WEE WEEEE
    Boo boo be da be da do -- WOOOOOO.

    Oh, I know exactly what you said. :P
    8601) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579939)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What's really strange is, if Jeffrey showed no knowledge of the Koran (Qu'ran?), then his comments about 9/11 might be regarded as similar to those in the conspiracy camps.
    8602) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579938)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since something else just ... disappeared ... I'll say it here.

    Maybe you're not familiar with this phrase:
    'aggressive cry baby'
    They provoke with venom, then cry over a pin prick...
    It's quite the juxtaposition... ;)


    Just a little pin prick?

    "I do believe it's working!"
    "Good."
    "That'll keep you going through the show. C'mon, it's time to go."
    8603) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579927)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Since something else just ... disappeared ... I'll say it here. "Most of you humans subscribe to this policy of an eye for eye, which is known throughout most of the rest of the GALAXY for its stupidity. Your buddha and your christ, they had quite a different vision, but no one's listened to them very much, not even the buddhists and the christians ... ."
    8604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A useful idea? (Message 579843)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another nice idea, one I think is much more manageable, is that the BOINC Manager checks when an update is available AND TELLS YOU, so you do not have to keep looking at the front page of this project.
    8605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 579822)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking in tongues is a real Scam....

    Dunno, I've always liked tongue-twisters...and I believe ******* ********* are quite popular, too...

    *****************? Hahahah!

    Guys, this is getting non-kid friendly.

    Linguist: uses language
    Cunning: clever
    pretentious: moi?

    Your double meaning was not lost upon us.
    8606) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579791)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Proverbs 26:11
    Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool that repeats his folly.
    Ok... I'm done... For now... ;)

    Is this about the boards somehow? ;)
    8607) Message boards : Politics : Political Thread [20] - Closed (Message 579782)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New Al Qaeda Attacks Ultimatum Issued by Adam Gadahn.
    American renegade Adam Gadahn , now a senior Al Queda operative believed to be in Pakistan, released a video warning to President Bush of new and worse attacks on America than 9/11 unless an ultimatum is met. The terms include withdrawal from all muslim lands and the release of all prisoners.
    Question: If such an attack should occur, would that not sweep the Republicans back into power? And if that is likely, why would Al Qaeda favor the Republicans over the Democrats?

    Nice question.
    8608) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579649)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffery, I asked a few questions of old friends back east and, weird thing, your name is known. I guess you are not paranoid because they really are out to get you.
    Who would have thought? ;)

    Yeah, there's only one guy named Jeffrey out east.
    8609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 579588)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keep nominating those brains!
    8610) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579574)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    D/B ... "No abusive comments involving race, religion, nationality, gender, class or sexuality."
    8611) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579556)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is this video 'real'?
    bush sunday bloody sunday
    Clearly, it was something I could watch... ;)

    Obviously, that was stuff strung together.
    8612) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579535)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I do not speak Arabic, so how do I know that that's really what was being said, when reading the sub-titles?

    How do we know that the video itself is real?
    When they see movies such as 'Fahrenheit 911' and 'Jar-head' in plain english they cry claims of lies and propaganda, yet when they see little video clips in a foreign language they scream, well, it must be real, it has to be real, there's no way that it can't be real...
    People only see what they want to see... ;)

    You're going to have to clarify what you mean by real. Clearly, it was something I could watch. Clearly, there was an adult interviewing two very young children. As I said, the sub-titles can be called into question.
    Suppose the sub-titles are not accurate. Then who posted it?
    Suppose they are accurate. Was this really on television, or was that part faked? Whom does this television station, if real, reach? So on and so on ... .
    8613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Checklist for quitting the SETI boards (Message 579526)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1. Make intentions known in a single thread...
    2. Update profile with a list of reasons, demands, and ultimatums...
    3. Change avatar, two, three, or four times...
    4. Have friends flood the boards with childish nonsense...
    5. Return under a different name and repeat the process...

    And as for the final phase of all the drama:
    6. Subtly return and start posting as if nothing had ever happened...
    I'm soooo on to you peeps... ;)

    Yeah?
    8614) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579514)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it religion? Is it politics? Or is it both? Either way I call it an abomination.
    I could post over a hundred links just like this one...

    D/B ... I could play Devil's Advocate here and say, well, I do not speak Arabic, so how do I know that that's really what was being said, when reading the sub-titles?
    However, I could speak to a friend from Palestine and play the video for him and see how he responds.
    He and I had a long talk a few months back. He told me that he and many of those he knows lived with Jews and Christians in peace. He said their struggle is with the Israeli government.
    8615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Kid Friendly Posts Only (Message 579492)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see that we've all discovered the 'youtube'...

    Is this the video version of cut n paste? ;)


    Youtube?
    What's that?
    ;)
    8616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 579456)
    Posted 1 Jun 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking in tongues is a real Scam....


    Dunno, I've always liked tongue-twisters...and I believe ******* ********* are quite popular, too...

    *****************? Hahahah!


    Guys, this is getting non-kid friendly.
    8617) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579365)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think ... should reconsider any posts ... makes, after the garbage ... spouted a few weeks ago, including a thread called "Mods, please stop it!" and then turned on the people that tried to help ... . Any benefit of the doubt some may have held out for you regarding your ability to analyze any person, or topics from politics and religion have been seriously undermined after that event.
    8618) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579266)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's been a while, but in certain situations, I do not recall anyone pointing any fingers at anyone except directly at leaders of small groups, such as Jim Jones in Guyana, David Koresh in Waco, Texas and the Heaven's Gate guy in (California?).
    8619) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579245)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    BillHyland, why do you look to the Imams, anyway?
    If I did something wrong, would you cast blame on all the pastors of the churches I've attended in the past, or even one of them?
    What do the ACTIONS of the Muslims you say you see and work with every day tell you?
    8620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 579178)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats because you're a real Lady.....But you can Poof in public......
    Silent but Deadly..lol

    Wait a minute! Are we going to have separate threads? Poot and poof?


    Oh god, please don't.....


    So let it be written, so let it be done!
    Demiurg, arch-creator of all zany threads, worketh thine magic one more time again upon the bemused crunching/posting community.
    8621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 579156)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats because you're a real Lady.....But you can Poof in public......
    Silent but Deadly..lol

    Wait a minute! Are we going to have separate threads? Poot and poof?
    8622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#35 - It all Ended on Thursday! CLOSED! (Message 579047)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My only post in this version of the thread.
    [Though I can keep editing it for up to an hour. :)]
    [[But sleep seems like a BEttER idea.]]
    [[[I don't think she'll be able to spend those in Vancouver.
    And please stop sending me those quarters I cannot use in US vending machines! :)]]]
    [[[[No, DB, Dunes's not a sore loser! :)]]]]
    [[[[[Hey, Jeremy, wassup?]]]]]
    8623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 579044)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    8624) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579038)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In fact, it's the ridiculous bickering that could turn a few to his side.
    8625) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579036)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice dodge

    I saw no reason to refute his slander... ;)

    How is it slander? I ask a direct question and you do not answer. Coward.

    You know what?
    We really could use Chuck back, because you two fighting each other is ridiculous and pointless. GOOD NIGHT!!!
    8626) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 579035)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice dodge

    I saw no reason to refute his slander... ;)

    How is it slander? I ask a direct question and you do not answer. Coward.

    You call him both son and coward?
    What an interesting juxtaposition!
    8627) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578929)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does anyone know how to shut down the email notification?
    I know I can do it through 'preferences' but that would stop messages that I might actually want.

    btw: yes, Knightmare, I know. I am weak. Very, very weak :)


    Hey...bravery...even if limited...is better than total cowardice...lol


    Yet the payoffs are sometimes limited.


    But in some cases, the payoff may be more than expected. :-)


    In the case I am thinking of, I now highly doubt it.
    8628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578925)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes when it rains and it's humid my hair gets kinky, is that what you mean?

    ** nope, I just can't poot in public ...


    Yes, SJ, I think that's what they meant by kinky.

    How do you apply that to poots then?


    I will admit I am completely clueless on this one! :)
    Demiurg?
    8629) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578924)
    Posted 31 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does anyone know how to shut down the email notification?
    I know I can do it through 'preferences' but that would stop messages that I might actually want.

    btw: yes, Knightmare, I know. I am weak. Very, very weak :)


    Hey...bravery...even if limited...is better than total cowardice...lol


    Yet the payoffs are sometimes limited.
    8630) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578763)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    All the questions up to this point I have put into an email and sending it to Rytis. I will post whatever info he sends me back.

    Jeremy


    Cool! Thanks, man!
    8631) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 578761)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, the problem is that most normal Muslims are not declaring against "those zealots who are terrorizing others" (I will just call them those murderers from now on), leading most of the rest of us non-Muslims to believe that thay agree with the those murderers. We feel certain that "normal Muslims" don't go out and murder women, children and men like those murderers. But when Al-Jazeera sings the praise of those murderers and shows those murderers cutting the head off someone who is helping rebuild the Iraqi infrastructure it's hard to remember who the "normal Muslims" are, because we never hear from them.

    I see and talk to Muslims on a daily basis. So I know what they're saying and what they claim to agree with. I suppose you do not meet many Muslims in your area of the country.

    What is your point and how does it relate to what I said? I also work and talk with Muslims every day. The statement is a non-sequitir.

    Let me spell out what I am saying very clearly. When those murderers are murdering in the name of Islam and Allah, we do not hear the Imams anywhere refuting their words and repudiating their acts. This leads many to the assumption that the Imams agree and support those murderers.

    The Muslims I know DO speak out against the words and actions of extremists.
    Thus, it is your conclusion that is a non-sequitUr.


    Sarge. How many of the Imams have gone to the general public ( through the media for instance ) to say that what those others are doing is wrong??


    None of the Muslims I know are Imams and I do not have access to view al-Jazeera. I could ask my friends if there are videos on the web where some Imams do go to the general public and speak out against the extremists.
    8632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578754)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sometimes when it rains and it's humid my hair gets kinky, is that what you mean?

    ** nope, I just can't poot in public ...


    Yes, SJ, I think that's what they meant by kinky.
    8633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578700)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's keep it kid-friendly, Dune. :)
    8634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578646)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FLOOP INGLE DWOOP NINGY DQAPS IBDLS MSWYT
    DIMPS TRDCX MFJUT HYETA KIDME NHSYS KLPOW

    8p


    You changed something on me again.
    8635) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Languages, Ancestry and Some Off-Topic Stuff (Message 578644)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, Be3ts and Demiurg, heR3 ya's go3s ... !
    8636) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Coloquialisms and other sayings. (Message 578640)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Edit: Here's one in Hungarian. "Nem minden tarka sarka farka tarka, chok a farku fayta tarka sarka farka tarka". It's a tongue twister, like the English "Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Picled Peppers".

    Translated literally, it means, "Not every chequered peacock has a chequered tail, just the chequered tailed peacock has a chequered tail".


    Fair equivalent would be "just about"...

    And the not literal translation?

    Are you hungarian? Sorry if I am nosy.

    Nope, I'm Canadian. I understand it orally but I can't read or write in it. My father is a master of languages: to some degree he speaks 67 of them! Anyway, he taught this tongue-twister to a friend of his that used to go to a Hungarian barbershop. After the friend Louie got this memorized, he went in and put it out to the gang there. From that moment on, nobody would believe that he didn't speak Hungarian! LOL

    I understand a handful of languages but I'll never get close to what my father knows; I wouldn't even try.

    The meaning is: "Don't overgeneralize".


    hEY, GuYz, maybe we could have a separate thread for this? BTW: yes, you're Canadian, but what are your roots from before settling in Canada?
    8637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578625)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WSHWM DNWBN HXSRL FNWQR JDBUJ ZEHYP UDXWS
    HWSRZ HUWFU IRENW HUIFN

    Hehe!


    ARPFZ IRFHP FEKPF SINKK ARERF ERPFS ZODUU
    RERSK LVORH TRLFS LAVVH RUEVP FSOTR OVSVK
    RQRSA FQRKV NHRVS RHVKE FSHYF ERSK
    8638) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578617)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess it will be the forum you where in last. But with more buttons you could get to any forii.

    No, it takes you http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php.


    Okay, but still, with a few extra buttons you would be able to go to any foraii.


    That's what I'm suggesting. I imagine Jeremy might forward this idea to Rytis ... ?
    8639) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578616)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    XSBZS MDNWI BISRL HTRIF EBUJP DFEQH UJRWW
    BUJZD UAFNR I


    KARVS RFHJD SXUVE KARYP URFKN ERKVI RERPV
    QROKR PYVEF EDMZU EVPKA RFLLV NSKHV UKAVH
    RTAVF ERIFS SRO
    8640) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578610)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess it will be the forum you where in last. But with more buttons you could get to any forii.

    No, it takes you http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php.
    8641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578608)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    LOL!
    8642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578605)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RNMRZ BHCCP NBUZR PDFEQ HUXHN CBAWR IHZDF
    MCRDA IHPNH JD

    ZRHIN KARPF ORKAR YVHKO NEDSX PZIFS
    8643) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578603)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The new PM system is great!
    Could use an outbox, though.
    And is there any information posted about how it works, for example, how many posts can your inbox contain? Will thay auto delete when the box fills up to a certain number of posts or after a certain date if you do not manually delete them?

    All good questions. If no one else does it before I get home, I'll email Rytis who has been working on the forum code. And I'll post his response once I hear something.

    Jeremy


    Might also ask him if it's possible to get a " Return to Forums " button. Having to click the " Back " arrow a bunch of times to get back to the forums is a pain.


    I see the red X got added, along with what KM asked for. But, it'd be nice to have it list which forums you can go back to.
    8644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578590)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    VSKAR VKARE AFSOD KADSJ HRWDH SDLRI NKDPD
    HHPZY VHKRE YDLKN ERUEV PXERR SYRFL RKAFK
    PDJRE RPVQR OTAFK DHTEV SXTDK AFSRM RYAFS
    KUFKT VPFSS NORDS KARTF KREUF EKDSX MDJRF
    TAFMR HAFQR KARTA FMRH

    SVSNO DKZDH FMMVT ROPZU EDRSO


    UVIXQ ZSXRP UVIXC KXXIZ URPUR GGJDQ UUVAV
    PUUMX CDKUR QHJMD GXJVL DQ

    Did you switch things up on me without proper notification?

    Anyway ...

    BNRHK DVSHF SOFSH TREHX RSREF MDHHN RHTDH
    AMDHK ERXFE ODSXY EDQFK RPRHH FXRHY VHKRO
    WAVNE HFXVI ZPDHU DKKRP YVEFE DMZOD HFIMR
    KADHU RFKNE RUEVP IFSSR OUVEN PFLLV NSKHI
    FSSRO RBNFM HSVYP TAFKD HKADH XNZTA DSDSX
    UVE
    8645) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578585)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Am I the only one they've locked out of sending more PMs and reading them?
    I mean, I know I'm a naughty boy and all.

    Fatal error: Cannot redeclare pm_header() (previously declared in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/user/forum_pm.php:160) in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/forum_pm.inc on line 10


    I think that was done as an emergency act to stop you from PMing while you where banned...

    *Spanking naughtyboy*


    See the other thread in response to this.
    8646) Questions and Answers : Web site : New PM system? (Message 578572)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Am I the only one they've locked out of sending more PMs and reading them?
    I mean, I know I'm a naughty boy and all.

    Fatal error: Cannot redeclare pm_header() (previously declared in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/user/forum_pm.php:160) in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/forum_pm.inc on line 10
    8647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578570)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You guy have to much time!!!!

    Uhhh, Champ, notice 3 hours between posts?
    Do you recall what it is I do for a living?
    This takes hardly any time at all. :)
    8648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578569)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    VSKAR VKARE AFSOD KADSJ HRWDH SDLRI NKDPD
    HHPZY VHKRE YDLKN ERUEV PXERR SYRFL RKAFK
    PDJRE RPVQR OTAFK DHTEV SXTDK AFSRM RYAFS
    KUFKT VPFSS NORDS KARTF KREUF EKDSX MDJRF
    TAFMR HAFQR KARTA FMRH

    SVSNO DKZDH FMMVT ROPZU EDRSO
    8649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578567)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    KVBNV KRUNC CZVSM ZRSXM DHAKR WKTDM MIRPV
    OREFK ROONR KVFPR EDLFS HIRDS XKVYE NODHA
    KVAFQ RHRW


    TRPFZ IRYEN ODHAI NKTRM DJRKV YVVKF SOSVK
    XRKPV OOROU VEHDM MZKAD SXHMV M
    8650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 578488)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poot!
    8651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578487)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    berkeley


    Berkeley? That was an oddsounding poot:-)


    they pooted
    8652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578485)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, let's try this again:

    LFSKA RPVOR EFKVE HPVOR EFKRD UKARZ LFSSV
    KERFO DK

    E:(3,5)
    D:(9,7)

    :)


    PmfMpfFmmPmpMmm PffPfmFpmPpfPff MppMpfPmpFpmMpp MfpPfmFpmPpfPff MppMpfPmpPffMpm FmfPmpMmmPffFfp PmfMpfFmmFmmFpm
    PmpMppPffMpfPpf MpmPmp



    You naughty little thing! I just recommended you four NUotD (Naughty User of the Day).

    ERSKA DT£AL FETLE


    Sorry, your reply came out as RENTH IWHCA RWCR ... .
    8653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578483)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, let's try this again:

    LFSKA RPVOR EFKVE HPVOR EFKRD UKARZ LFSSV
    KERFO DK

    E:(3,5)
    D:(9,7)

    :)


    PmfMpfFmmPmpMmm PffPfmFpmPpfPff MppMpfPmpFpmMpp MfpPfmFpmPpfPff MppMpfPmpPffMpm FmfPmpMmmPffFfp PmfMpfFmmFmmFpm
    PmpMppPffMpfPpf MpmPmp



    Also incorrect. Sorry.
    8654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578469)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, let's try this again:

    LFSKA RPVOR EFKVE HPVOR EFKRD UKARZ LFSSV
    KERFO DK

    E:(3,5)
    D:(9,7)

    :)
    8655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578467)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    gdhjsfgdysa fedsfhv hqwrfqwts uewwew.,
    jkafbdssdkfb wertdfs.jufjf/ nhjndfj./dusahahudokoiq/
    jbdffbjff.iweweoiyjagdf.

    /edit- didn't mean to shout the last bit \\edit


    Greggy, must be the wrong language.
    Please try again.
    8656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578465)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - Do not provide a translation here. Simply encode a response using the same "tongue." Thanks! :)
    8657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578464)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, you've onviously got too much time on your hands, there must be something more constructive to do?

    LOL! Dude, it's 9:20 a.m. and I am about to go get coffee and go to work.
    8658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Speaking in tongues phenomenon (Message 578461)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    CUUSW KQYGK KUSYK OQYGK KUSKA OSWKM CUUUY
    SKKUG EWUSE KUKKE KASAU S
    8659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578445)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    berkeley
    8660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578444)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    boards
    8661) Message boards : Politics : Fun with Global Warming - Part Deux! (Message 578440)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    don't
    8662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578321)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is the post you've been waiting for.

    Yes, I was. :)
    What's playing on the radio?
    8663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578314)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.

    Didn't you see the previous post? :)
    8664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578311)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My Number one Puter Died...:-(..Blue screen no heart beat...
    only 1 year old....

    I've got one that can commiserate with it.
    8665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578304)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Dune and Captain my Captain.
    I've no self control at all.
    Gonna keep the guns for awhile though. Ya never know when they might prove useful ;)

    I know one of these days they're going to be aimed at me! I'm always saying something to piss someone off.

    Nah, Dune, you're actually kinda cool.
    But Ice is the coolest.
    His name says so! :)
    8666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 578302)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must...post...can't resist...darn, I am sooooo weak and have no will power at all *sigh*

    You're getting sleepy ... very sleepy ... dreaming of men who've potential. ;)
    8667) Message boards : Politics : Political Thread [20] - Closed (Message 578296)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    there has been cases of threats posted, but no actual violence.
    I would say a lot is not reported.

    Perhaps. That's a shame. It's bad enough what we have happening in the US and one would like to hope little to none of it occurs elsewhere. :(
    8668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 578288)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. I'm trying to remember the name of a member I haven't heard from in a while. She's a woman, she was from South America somewhere, and she was involved with science. ...

    Tiare Arroway Rivera.

    Specifically, Chile.
    8669) Message boards : Politics : Political Thread [20] - Closed (Message 578279)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Red, has there been as much of this going on in Australia as in the US?
    8670) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Right in the Funny Bone (Message 578277)
    Posted 30 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Yes there is, " the man replied, as he moved closer to the woman and fixed a winsome gaze upon her. "Tell me, do you have an Internet connection?"

    LOL! Good one, Stacey Jane!
    8671) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Official Last Kinky Person to Poot Wins! # 3 (closed) (Message 578185)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, Demiurg, since I started this idea (though inspired by the Captain!), I suggest we let a lady win this one when it's time. ;)
    8672) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your Quiet Time (Message 578087)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe part of the world is asleep or another is at work
    or the SETI boards are just almost in slumber before being woken up yet again.
    What do you think about in your quiet time?

    What I'm going to do with ..oh wait
    nevermind. Posts must be kid friendly.
    I will say that I am a happily married father. And I bought my wife a new car back in March and I am still exploiting that success...

    Oh, my.
    8673) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Last Person to Poot WINS # II (closed) (Message 577997)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cloed?
    Oh, poooot.
    8674) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577927)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You are what is known as a mental midget.

    Really? Why, thank you! At least I can tell where this thread belongs, unless it is to be completely deleted.
    8675) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577926)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You're fluttering around like a bird with a broken wing. Quit crying.

    Yes, you are, and it is not very becoming.
    8676) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577925)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think a moderator was offended by Chuck's rants against religion.
    How odd, then, that this thread was not completely removed way back then.
    8677) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577924)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As I am an educator, among other things, I stand by my statement that Chuck has a right to ask his questions related to science or relate what he knows about it. He may not get quite the answers he hopes for. So be it.
    8678) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577923)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From Chuck: "Thanx Sarge, you hit the nail on the head completely and squarely" (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=35148&nowrap=true#477372).
    At least Chuck doesn't need a translator.
    8679) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577921)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's easy enough to find, or dig up, a thread such as this one, whether in the Cafe or the Science forum. If you were thinking of hiding the entire thread, why didn't you do so around 6 months ago?
    8680) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577920)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Scientists or those well-versed in its literature, who are more likely to enter the science forum than the Cafe, are better qualified to clarify things for Chuck that the typical Cafe reader/poster.
    8681) Message boards : Politics : Scientists ONLY (Message 577904)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Einstien was religious, so I am not suprised he made a stupid and short-sighted statement. Clearly, not everything that comes out of the mouth of a genius is a brilliant statement.


    Ninjadwarf, here you can gain some insight to Chuck's view of Einstein. Note, my posting this does not imply disagreement with the second statement.

    Most important here: Chuck's claim appears to be that when one adheres to some religious faith system or something similar and is a scientist, that person begins to lose some credibility. In fact, that is the essence of a statement by Dawkins in a recent Time-moderated debate between Dawkins and a famous geneticist whose name eludes me right now. (*) In fact, Chuck seems to go further. Not only is some credibility lost, Chuck seems to suggest that makes the person not a scientist at all. (???)

    * Wanna see something new added here? How about the bit about the Time article? A debate between scientists!!!. How about the fact that within approximately the last two years, one could find a similar article in Discover magazine? A science magazine for the general public. So, we have some scientists weighing in on religion, using science to back up a lot of their claims and when the one who is religious cannot back up a claim and resorts to talking about God or gods (whether this is right or not - no judgement by me in this post) ... the other says that lowers the scientist's credibility. So ... it is a scientific discussion! Otherwise, neither Dawkins nor the other would have engaged in Time magazine moderated debate!.


    Hmmm ... .
    8682) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 577702)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, the problem is that most normal Muslims are not declaring against "those zealots who are terrorizing others" (I will just call them those murderers from now on), leading most of the rest of us non-Muslims to believe that thay agree with the those murderers. We feel certain that "normal Muslims" don't go out and murder women, children and men like those murderers. But when Al-Jazeera sings the praise of those murderers and shows those murderers cutting the head off someone who is helping rebuild the Iraqi infrastructure it's hard to remember who the "normal Muslims" are, because we never hear from them.

    I see and talk to Muslims on a daily basis. So I know what they're saying and what they claim to agree with. I suppose you do not meet many Muslims in your area of the country.

    What is your point and how does it relate to what I said? I also work and talk with Muslims every day. The statement is a non-sequitir.

    Let me spell out what I am saying very clearly. When those murderers are murdering in the name of Islam and Allah, we do not hear the Imams anywhere refuting their words and repudiating their acts. This leads many to the assumption that the Imams agree and support those murderers.

    The Muslims I know DO speak out against the words and actions of extremists.
    Thus, it is your conclusion that is a non-sequitUr.
    8683) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [10] - Closed (Message 577693)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, the problem is that most normal Muslims are not declaring against "those zealots who are terrorizing others" (I will just call them those murderers from now on), leading most of the rest of us non-Muslims to believe that thay agree with the those murderers. We feel certain that "normal Muslims" don't go out and murder women, children and men like those murderers. But when Al-Jazeera sings the praise of those murderers and shows those murderers cutting the head off someone who is helping rebuild the Iraqi infrastructure it's hard to remember who the "normal Muslims" are, because we never hear from them.

    I see and talk to Muslims on a daily basis. So I know what they're saying and what they claim to agree with. I suppose you do not meet many Muslims in your area of the country.
    8684) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 577679)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Questions for Today:
    Who is Brandy Taylore and does she really want me to have “noticeable improvement in bust size within 30 days” if I buy the herbal supplement that she’s flogging?
    And how did this get trough a spam filter that wouldn’t let setiadmin mail through ‘till I told it that it was okay to do so?

    Btw: these are rhetorical questions designed to let me post with an apparent reason when I really have no reason at all :)

    You've received e-mail from the admin?
    [EDIT: Crap, 4000 seemed such a nice place to stop.
    And to Daniel, good tune, "Drops of Jupiter." Better yet, as part of the K-PAX soundtrack.]
    8685) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 577629)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one's thought of a brain in 7 days?!?

    You expect us to have thoughts?

    Well, actually ... yes! :)
    [EDIT: 4000 posts! And ... I'm spent. See ya!!! :)]
    8686) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 577624)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one's thought of a brain in 7 days?!?
    8687) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ********BEETHOVEN'S XII******** NOW CLOSED! (Message 577555)
    Posted 29 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You will note, Beets, that I respected your request in your last PM to me.
    8688) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLTPW#34 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 577536)
    Posted 28 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning?
    8689) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Red Delicious or Macintosh? (Message 573119)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally, I prefer the Red Delicious ones, just like prot. :)
    8690) Message boards : Number crunching : We've solved yesterday's problem and we're back up. (Message 573098)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I came into my office this morning to find one work unit demanding 5500 hrs. of work! And it is due in 3 days!!!

    Is your time machine working? ;)

    Nope.
    I aborted it. I knew it had no chance of completing in time.
    8691) Message boards : Number crunching : We've solved yesterday's problem and we're back up. (Message 573070)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If the "Results waiting for deletion" figure on the Server Status page is anything to go by, it looks like they've still got some work to do.

    That looks like an overflow/divide by zero sort of number.

    I came into my office this morning to find one work unit demanding 5500 hrs. of work! And it is due in 3 days!!!
    8692) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really hate ... (Message 573062)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... missing you.

    Maybe if your aim was better...

    Nice one.
    Maybe I need a different projectile. :)
    8693) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 573021)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Been sitting here too long. Time to go outside and play.
    See ya later.

    Winning!

    Play?
    No.
    Work!
    :P
    8694) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572998)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Floating petunias must always be wary of falling planets.

    Whales. Whales falling onto planets.

    Really? Well, I read it in high school, a decade ago. I guess I got mixed up on which incarnation died where and how. My bad :)

    Agrajag was the pot of petunias. He said, "Oh, no, not again" because he saw Arthur peering out the window of The Heart of Gold.
    8695) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572987)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Floating petunias must always be wary of falling planets.

    Whales. Whales falling onto planets.
    8696) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572962)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I read only one Ringworld thingy.
    Or was that Discworld?
    8697) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 572958)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aw c'mon! I bet there are some GREAT Big Brain Bikini shots of Euclid!

    No bikinis allowed. :)
    8698) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572947)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WOW, Monday gets the 10 hour unplanned outrage post!!!

    Of course, I blame Misfit for this.


    Perhaps I'm paranoid, but it does seem like Misfit is around when all these bad things happen...

    Because Misfit is ALWAYS around. Of course, that can induce paranoia on its own.

    Hiya kenzie.

    Floating skull...still creepy;)

    So am I. Creepy, not floating. ;)


    You're not creepy. You're also not winning.


    Oh, you don't know me very well....


    Labbie is Agrajag. :)


    No, I'm Louis Wu.

    Louis Who?
    8699) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572943)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd say I'm SJ, but that'd be creepy.

    It would also require extensive surgery...

    I don't want that! :P
    8700) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572934)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My inbox has no undread messages.
    8701) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572932)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd say I'm SJ, but that'd be creepy.
    8702) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572925)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WOW, Monday gets the 10 hour unplanned outrage post!!!

    Of course, I blame Misfit for this.


    Perhaps I'm paranoid, but it does seem like Misfit is around when all these bad things happen...

    Because Misfit is ALWAYS around. Of course, that can induce paranoia on its own.

    Hiya kenzie.

    Floating skull...still creepy;)

    So am I. Creepy, not floating. ;)


    You're not creepy. You're also not winning.


    Oh, you don't know me very well....


    Labbie is Agrajag. :)
    8703) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain of the Day [1] (Message 572923)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here in the BOTD, we show respect for our favorite scientists. I nominate Euclid.
    (No pix or links to pix allowed.)
    8704) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572916)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You can't say that.
    8705) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really hate ... (Message 572913)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't "Missing You" by John Waite an awful song? :)

    What was up with Tina Turner covering it??
    8706) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really hate ... (Message 572912)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Isn't "Missing You" by John Waite an awful song? :)
    8707) Message boards : Cafe SETI : what the heck is this? (Message 572909)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When someone stands at the head of the room with a microphone they almost always has an agenda. Folks with agendas have been known to occasionally fib.
    My observation: anyone who steps up to the microphone is a politician of sorts. Believe accordingly.

    Don't believe any singer's lyrics. :)
    8708) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572906)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL@belly poot.
    8709) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I really hate ... (Message 572902)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... missing you.
    8710) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572825)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An Hour ? Holy Pooty!

    Less than that. :)

    Jeeze I cant post for even a minute without getting booted off..

    Well, I'll finish some work here, so you can maintain the pooty throne a while. :)

    Well you got 47 more minutes Sarge....

    I did?
    8711) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572782)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An Hour ? Holy Pooty!

    Less than that. :)

    Jeeze I cant post for even a minute without getting booted off..

    Well, I'll finish some work here, so you can maintain the pooty throne a while. :)
    8712) Message boards : Number crunching : RAC up by ... (Message 572779)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also, why so many threads that deal with the same thing? Can we say "Merge them, please?"

    Ever try and open/read one of these 200 post threads on dial-up?

    Good point, I suppose. (I haven't been using dial-up [except a few occasions] since 2002.)
    8713) Message boards : Number crunching : RAC up by ... (Message 572774)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Did I read this correctly - you complaining about so many threads about the same thing in a new thread started by you?

    Did I read this correctly? You thought it said the same thing?
    Funny, I thought it said I am receiving WUs and returning results and many others still active complain about the opposite.
    8714) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572772)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    An Hour ? Holy Pooty!

    Less than that. :)
    8715) Message boards : Number crunching : RAC up by ... (Message 572767)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For all the complaining, why have I seen my RAC go back up by 30-40 since the replacement of the server?
    Also, why so many threads that deal with the same thing? Can we say "Merge them, please?"
    8716) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572694)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Do we have Gas Masks? :o)

    If we wish. It's cyberspace, you know!
    8717) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572674)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think it's better in red and all capitals.
    8718) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572672)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We've got air freshener when needed!
    8719) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572642)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pooting into first place!

    Then poot in the pooting thread! :)
    8720) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Danish Clan (Message 572623)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We do have a lot in common here in Norden. Og så kan vi forstå hinanden. :-)

    "Og så kan vi forstå hinanden" = "And so we can understand one another."
    8721) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572607)
    Posted 21 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wanna' be last! Let me, let me!

    Cant Happen!

    Poot on it!
    8722) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 572573)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, things sure have changed. Hello DB, Dan and nObOdY. I have come by and watched the goings on, but not posted (mainly because my RAC was too low). Let's see how long I can stand it this time.

    Welcome, Qui-Gon. Need a Paduan learner? :)
    8723) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572523)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, I see the point. yep, the grammar in German is a lot more difficult than in English - and not only in declination. It needed a much bigger database than Babelfish seems to have to get all phrases right.

    Not necessarily more difficult, just different.
    8724) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sorry ... (Message 572506)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    I forgive you Sarge...we all act crazy at one time or another in our lives.

    You know that's not what I said.
    No deflections, now.
    8725) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sorry ... (Message 572470)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There seemed to be brief hope yesterday.
    Yet the frogs and worms dig up the earth and slide things beneath it!
    8726) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sorry ... (Message 572463)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    thEy CANNOT Understand . . .

    Can they learn?
    8727) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sorry ... (Message 572455)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .pooottttttt?!?

    8728) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We're all human ... (Message 572454)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Somehow I think Richard and I are getting closer to knowing what the other is saying! :)
    8729) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm sorry ... (Message 572432)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... did you say something?
    ;)
    8730) Message boards : Cafe SETI : We're all human ... (Message 572431)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ... and we all make mistakes.
    Some are just better at admitting it than others.
    8731) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572430)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't like Babelfish, it's too wrong. When there are words or sentences I don't know, I use dictionaries, or dictionary programs - like "Ding" for example

    You could put in a word at a time at Babelfish to get the one word.
    Unless you say that make mistakes, as well?
    Part of the problem could be phrases (rather than whole sentences).
    The other issue is the grammatical differences.
    I would say "I have a forgotten a lot" (or "much" in place of "a lot").
    But, in German, the grammatical structure is "I have much forgotten." Translating to "Ich habe viele vergessen."
    If you don't remember your lessons from learning another language, you could forget the grammatical structure, let alone when dealing with different tenses.
    8732) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572428)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ladies never poot!
    POOT!
    Never was very lady-like.

    As long as you don't belch. ;)
    8733) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572417)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Are you using BabelFish? seems so.
    @Sarge - I learned Russian in school for over 6 years, plus the years of apprenticeship. By now I just can read the alphabet, and say a dozen phases.
    The saying is right: "If you don't use it, you lose it"
    Btw: winning

    Occasionally Babelfish is used.
    As I said, I did take German in high school and 1 year in college.
    But, we never got to put it to use outside a classroom.
    So, I agree completely with the saying you've quoted.
    8734) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572403)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If you write german is real funny.

    Birthday party is finnished.

    another win.


    Ja Michael. Ich bin traurig, daß ich am Deutschen so schlecht bin. Ich sollte besser sein, nachdem ich in Deutschland für vier jahre studiert habe.


    I think you are better in german than me in swedish.

    I am guessing it said:
    Yes, Michael. I am sorry, that I am so terrible in speaking German. I should be better, since I studied in Germany for four years.
    8735) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572399)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    If you write german is real funny.

    Birthday party is finnished.

    another win.

    As I said before, "Ich habe viele vergessen."
    8736) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572392)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ja ist dieses zutreffend. Jedoch mag sie nicht eine Mitte der Aufmerksamkeit sein. So sollten wir nicht von ihr weiter sprechen:)
    8737) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572383)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning

    Dein gewinnt ist verboten.
    ( No, no webpages, just a random attempt. :) )


    Nein, nein!
    "Irhe Winferooing ist verboten, hende hoch oder ich schisse. Du bist ein arskopf!"

    I think that was what you tried to say:-)

    Nein, ich glaube Thorin sind any-type-of-kopf nicht!

    Düne wünsche für die Rückkehr des Kenzie.
    8738) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572380)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning

    Dein gewinnt ist verboten.
    ( No, no webpages, just a random attempt. :) )


    Nein, nein!
    "Irhe Winferooing ist verboten, hende hoch oder ich schisse. Du bist ein arskopf!"

    I think that was what you tried to say:-)

    Nein, ich glaube Thorin sind any-type-of-kopf nicht!
    8739) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572376)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning

    Dein gewinnt ist verboten.
    ( No, no webpages, just a random attempt. :) )
    8740) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572359)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we have more pooters out there that just are afraid to post their poots.
    8741) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572358)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winferooing!
    And here is the word of the day, Kökkenmödding! Suck on that:-)

    I wonder what that means?
    8742) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572355)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been pooting for years. I never knew there where more pooters out there like me.

    Therefore I have released a new Boinc project that calculates gaseous emissions via boolean-lagrangian difractionate partial path-integrals.
    It is named POOTI@home.

    Welcome to download

    The GodFarther of Poot

    Hilarious!
    Glad you could find some fellow pooters.
    8743) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572331)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while others attempt to rewrite history.
    8744) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572320)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's not talk about mom's.

    Why not? As annoying as they sometimes are - without them, we were not here. 8^)

    Because some are gone.
    8745) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572299)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let's not talk about mom's.
    8746) Message boards : Number crunching : failed with a return value of 500 (Message 572298)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe this should go in number crunching?
    8747) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572297)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while talking to mom on the phone. "No, Mum, that's not a keyboard clicking you hear..."

    No, Mom, I don't have a phone program on the computer so that I'm talking to you on the phone and cool ppl on the computer phone.
    8748) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572294)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    To Infinity and Beyond

    The point being? :)
    8749) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572268)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning, at half past six pm - so good afternoon everyone :D

    Winning now that Thorin fell asleep.
    8750) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572264)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :P
    8751) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 572254)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Wait. You seriously have CDs? Of you performing?

    I'm just a regular person with a large music cd collection.
    I did say regular, not normal.

    I was hoping you were saying you're a musician, whether amateur or professional.
    Speaking of that, Matt Lebofsky does play in a band, correct? I wonder if he has any postings of the band's music?


    Just cliCk on thE Link Above SargE, SIR!!! ;O


    Already found it.
    8752) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572251)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A little late, but congrats Dune F! grumble, grumble

    ;)
    8753) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572247)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why is pooting so hilarious?
    Because it's there!!

    C/A started the poot fascination!
    8754) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572119)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning without links!
    8755) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572115)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    8756) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 572110)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump.

    Did it Hurt?

    The science made him do it.

    We always Talk about the Science,
    But Most of us have never seen the results....

    We've been blinded by the science!

    I blame Kelly LeBrock.

    I blame Kelly Hansen.
    8757) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572109)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Image Link]

    Nice Link...

    :)
    8758) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572103)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Image Link]
    8759) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 572101)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Pooting Begins!
    8760) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572097)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    pee
    poot
    win

    Pooty Tang!

    Wrong thread! :)
    8761) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 572095)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump.

    Did it Hurt?

    The science made him do it.

    We always Talk about the Science,
    But Most of us have never seen the results....

    We've been blinded by the science!
    8762) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572082)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now away for the moorning with a last pootiliciously seductive image:-)

    Winning.

    Winfinf on the way to work:-)

    Walking and surfing the web with your cell phone?
    8763) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 572079)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump.
    8764) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572074)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And now away for the moorning with a last pootiliciously seductive image:-)


    Winning.
    8765) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 572072)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, had I not mentioned my name is Απροσάρμοστος Borg ?
    8766) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572056)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win. Resistance is futile.

    Is it coincedence that you earned the 420th post?

    I contend this was a predestination paradox.

    The Borg do not believe in fate, yet some things are ... inevitable.
    8767) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572034)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win. Resistance is futile.

    Is it coincedence that you earned the 420th post?
    8768) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572020)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning with non-gray skin!
    8769) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572016)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    doh

    You mean, d'oh?
    Or, doe?
    Dough?
    8770) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 572014)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    8771) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 571990)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    401st post!
    8772) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571973)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    100th POOT!

    Not pootilicious enough to this discussion.

    wipe that thought from your mind.

    I refer you to Message 569604.
    8773) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571970)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    100th POOT!

    Not pootilicious enough to this discussion.
    8774) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571969)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOOOooottttt Putt Putt BARRUuuuummmpppphhhhh!!!

    need a box of tissues???

    Its a 2 square rule on TP...

    Eeeeewwwwww, sounded like more than a two square moment to me. (unless you ask my wife who seems to go thru a roll a day, for some freakish reason)(probably related to her need for a dozen bottles of strange things in the shower, while I just have soap, and shampoo)

    I said, can you spare a square?

    I'm sorry, I haven't a square to spare!
    8775) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571968)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOOOooottttt Putt Putt BARRUuuuummmpppphhhhh!!!

    need a box of tissues???

    Its a 2 square rule on TP...

    Eeeeewwwwww, sounded like more than a two square moment to me. (unless you ask my wife who seems to go thru a roll a day, for some freakish reason)(probably related to her need for a dozen bottles of strange things in the shower, while I just have soap, and shampoo)

    I said, can you spare a square?
    8776) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hillary Clinton Needs Your Advice (Message 571943)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd feel better about Hillary, if she'd have acted the way that I think my wife would have at the news that I was messing around on her. It wouldn't be pretty. I can assure you. Ofcourse, I'm so darn old now, who'd have me. LOL

    Good point.
    Similar thoughts about Gore and his response to Phone-Gate.
    8777) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hillary Clinton Needs Your Advice (Message 571886)
    Posted 20 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unbelievable.
    But, I guess she was trying to be funny.
    BTW, I hate Beck.
    8778) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 571849)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Wait. You seriously have CDs? Of you performing?

    I'm just a regular person with a large music cd collection.
    I did say regular, not normal.

    I was hoping you were saying you're a musician, whether amateur or professional.
    Speaking of that, Matt Lebofsky does play in a band, correct? I wonder if he has any postings of the band's music?

    Yes.

    Care to say where?
    8779) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 571842)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Wait. You seriously have CDs? Of you performing?

    I'm just a regular person with a large music cd collection.
    I did say regular, not normal.

    I was hoping you were saying you're a musician, whether amateur or professional.
    Speaking of that, Matt Lebofsky does play in a band, correct? I wonder if he has any postings of the band's music?
    8780) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Zeta Reticuli monitoring... (Message 571841)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I doubt that SETI makes their decisions of where to monitor based on claims of where UFOs are coming from.
    8781) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 571825)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    How many do you have?

    I have about 150, and no I won't send any to California addresses.

    Wait. You seriously have CDs? Of you performing?
    8782) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 571815)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Technology has finally caught up with us.
    Now we can all stay in touch..if that's the right phrase...

    But something doesn't smell right...

    Just think: we could be Skyping right now! :)
    8783) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 571804)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Chris Richards. Brother of Keith Richards. Notice the resemblance.

    Now everybody's going to want free CD's from me!

    Not really.
    If your last name were one of the following, it might be different:

    Clapton
    Hendrix
    Gilmour
    Page
    Rhoades
    Satriani
    Lynch
    Cantrell
    etc. ... .
    8784) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571795)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pooting in Earnest.....:

    I am still very very disturbed after meeting captain Pooty's girlfiend just as Earnest must be after you pooted in him...
    Poor Earnest... and you had cabage and beans too..

    Cabbage and beans sure would do it, wouldn't they?! :)
    8785) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Excellent read from Lee Iacocca (LONG but properly credited) (Message 571774)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Iacocca really wrote this?
    (I do know he has a book out.)
    Wow. Straight shooter indeed! A captain of industry coming out against a conservative?
    8786) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571753)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    Oh ... and ... poot!
    8787) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571694)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pootinf on the app_info.

    Keep on pootin'!
    8788) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 571688)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    I've heard that many times before...


    People should stop asking me what CR means. I've only repeated this story about 20 times now.

    Next time I'll tell them it stands for (insert Misfit's real name).

    What does CR stand for?
    8789) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571439)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He called her Fussy.
    8790) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571435)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    50th post!
    8791) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 571432)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The blueberries were tested by Opportunity in 2004 http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4790

    So here is a question. If it is from water, then why has this not been found on earth?

    Message 570007.

    This type of feature is so common on Earth that very few even notice it. Take that picture to your local rockhounding group and ask them what they think of it. They could probably take you to a similar site near where you live.

    That would be Buffalo.
    8792) Message boards : Cafe SETI : WARNING... BBCODE thread had Phishing Trojan...now fixed (Message 571378)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Again:
    People would be well advised to go to their account, go under message board preferences, and check boxes to:

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      Hide avatar images
      Hide signatures


    8793) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571371)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can I ask all my fellow team members (TFFE) to vacate this thread.. I do so value your kinship but I chose my path regardless of the team..

    You mean I have to quit TFFE in order to participate?
    I suppose it would be easier to join BOINC Synergy. Then I wouldn't have to put up with as much nonsense.

    Also not germane to the discussion.
    8794) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 571348)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The blueberries were tested by Opportunity in 2004 http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4790

    So here is a question. If it is from water, then why has this not been found on earth?

    Message 570007.
    8795) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 571345)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe Monday should win.


    I dont think so.

    Hello Monday.

    Maybe the winner should be declared (on) Monday?
    8796) Message boards : Cafe SETI : WARNING... BBCODE thread had Phishing Trojan...now fixed (Message 571331)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    People would be well advised to go to their account, go under message board preferences, and check boxes to:

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    8797) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Big Issue Foundation (Message 571324)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While out and about the midwest, east, and southeast in my interviews, I saw homelessness in some of these places and, in one place, I was told about local efforts to help.
    8798) Message boards : Cafe SETI : WARNING... BBCODE thread had Phishing Trojan...now fixed (Message 571321)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Which page is the BBCODE thread on?

    I assume "TESTING FOR SIGNATURES AND BBCODE" (do not link).
    8799) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571265)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I already made my points about why the e-mailing concerns is not an acceptable solution. I'm not going to re-tread that, for the sake of keeping a little of the peace that so many have asked for. Therefore, I leave it you, moderators, to search your memories or do your homework on what I have already raised.
    8800) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Moderator or Member. Can We Be Both? (Message 571252)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    After a 1.5 yr. absence, I see Crunchy has picked up on what the issue is incredibly well. He doesn't need to look back at threads from six months ago. If anything, many of you should look at the the stuff that went on over Thursday night/Friday morning between Misfit, F/H and D/B in the original Cunning Plan thread. Who's the bully? Who's the flamer? Are they equally responsible or not? Whomever it is (or they are), we want the crap to end. The overwhelming majority on this board have expressed a desire for peace. The true bully (bullies) and flamers need to get revealed. They need to be dealt with in an appropriate way. And if he or she or they are in moderator positions, they must be removed. None of this was germane approximately six months ago, because we had a different set of moderators or had an occasional "hidden" one.
    There it is, folks, plain and simple.
    8801) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I found ET! (Message 571234)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No comment.
    8802) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571233)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Was it a poot that destroyed the Shuttle Pootumbia?
    8803) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 571020)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Correct: 1000th post (of a poot).
    8804) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 571002)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Umm...it's all Misfit's fault

    According to Google

    This one's better
    8805) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Punning Clan (Message 570988)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the meantime...the men in white coats are lurking, rumours are rife that one has flown from the cuckoos nest.

    I couldn't find the nest b/c the landing lights were turned off. :)
    8806) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Danish Clan (Message 570985)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    51. Carlsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Carl.

    7,428
    52. Dahl Danish: topographic name for someone who lived in a lowlying area (from ON dalr meaning valley). 7,185
    53. Skov Danish: topograpfic name for someone who lived in or near a forest (literal meaning "forest"). 7,138
    54. Søndergaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Søndergaard" (literal meaning "the southern farmstead"). 7,101
    55. Christoffersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Christoffer. 6,779
    56. Bertelsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Bertel. 6,737
    57. Bruun Danish: nickname for a person with brown hair or eyes. 6,203
    58. Lassen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Las. 6,099
    59. Gregersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Gregers. 5,837
    60. Bach 5,723
    61. Friis Danish: regional name for someone of Friesian origin (most often from the Friesian areas in Schleswig). 5,299
    62. Kjeldsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Kjeld. 5,085
    63. Johnsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name John. 5,041
    64. Steffensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Steffen. 5,001
    65. Lauritsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Laurits. 4,847
    66. Krogh 4,842
    67. Bech 4,783
    68. Danielsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Daniel. 4,547
    69. Andresen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Andres. 4,519
    70. Mathiesen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Mathies. 4,426
    71. Toft 4,323
    72. Winther 4,286
    73. Ravn 4,282
    74. Brandt 4,036
    75. Dam 4,023
    76. Holst Danish: regional name for someone of Holstein origin. 3,914
    77. Lind Danish: ornamental name from the tree so called (from common Gmc. lind meaning lime tree. 3,872
    78. Mathiasen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Mathias. 3,810
    79. Berg Danish: topographic name for someone who lived on or by a hill (from ON berg/bjarg, literal meaning mountain). 3,751
    80. Overgaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Overgaard". 3,726
    81. Bak 3,674
    82. Nilsson Swedish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Nils. 3,674
    83. Schultz German: status name for a parish official performing certain judicial functions in the parish (from German Schultze). 3,662
    84. Klausen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Klaus. 3,607
    85. Kristoffersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Kristoffersen. 3,582
    86. Paulsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Paul. 3,541
    87. Schou Danish: Germanized form of Skov. Topograpfic name for someone who lived in or near a forest (literal meaning "forest"). 3,534
    88. Koch Germanic: occupational name for a cook. 3,527
    89. Thorsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the Old Norse given name Thor. 3,516
    90. Hermansen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Herman. 3,487
    91. Thygesen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Thyge. 3,445
    92. Nygaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Nygaard" (literal meaning "the new farmstead"). 3,388
    93. Bang 3,362
    94. Kruse Danish: nickname for a person with curly hair. 3,349
    95. Karlsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Karl. 3,341
    96. Juhl 3,321
    97. Villadsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Villads. 3,261
    98. Hedegaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Hedegaard" (literal meaning "the farmstead by/on the heath"). 3,230
    99. Lorenzen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Lorenz. 3,226
    100. Damgaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Damgaard" (literal meaning "the farmsted by the pond").
    3,159
    8807) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A Danish Clan (Message 570984)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)

    Of the following 100 surnames, as many as 64 derive from the patronymic naming tradition (names ending with "-sen"), 23 from nicknames, 9 from topographic features, and 2 from an occupation. Due to the natural immigration over the years many foreign surnames have appeared in Denmark, however, only one surname of German origin (SCHULTZ) and one of Swedish origin (NILSSON) have made it to the top 100 list.

    Among the 5.3 mill. Danes present day JENSEN is the most common lastname, carried by 312,396 individuals comprising 5.84 percent, followed by HANSEN, NIELSEN, PEDERSEN and ANDERSEN. The 15 most common names account for as many as 40 percent of the Danish population - all of them of patronymic origin - and all top 100 surnames account for as many as 57,22% of all Danes.

    Over the years the top surnames have remained consistent and there has only been little change in the distribution of the more common surnames in the Danish population.
    Rank Surname Origin / Meaning Occurrence
    1. Jensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jens. 312,396
    2. Nielsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Niels. 304,509
    3. Hansen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Hans. 255,892
    4. Pedersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Peder. 191,144
    5. Andersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Anders. 175,607
    6. Christensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Christen. 135,979
    7. Larsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Lars. 132,441
    8. Sørensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Søren. 127,078
    9. Rasmussen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Rasmus. 106,249
    10. Jørgensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jørgen. 100,376
    11. Petersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Peter. 95,232
    12. Madsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Mads. 71,448
    13. Kristensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Kristen. 65,680
    14. Olsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given names Ol/Ols/Ole. 55,461
    15. Christiansen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Christian. 41,005
    16. Thomsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Thom/Tom. 40,796
    17. Poulsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Poul. 34,731
    18. Johansen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Johan. 33,500
    19. Knudsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Knud. 32,567
    20. Mortensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Morten. 31,846
    21. Møller Danish: occupational name for a miller - the man who operated the mill (from Dan. "mølle" = mill). 31,024
    22. Jakobsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jakob. 28,820
    23. Jacobsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jacob. 26,852
    24. Olesen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Ole. 24,043
    25. Mikkelsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Mikkel. 23,250
    26. Frederiksen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Frederik. 21,791
    27. Laursen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Laur/Laurs. 19,044
    28. Henriksen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Henrik. 18,776
    29. Lund Danish: topografic name for someone living in or near a grove. 16,747
    30. Schmidt Danish (German): occupational name for a worker in metal. Most often a Germanized form of Smed (meaning Smith) but can also be of German origin (from Ger. Schmied). 15,923
    31. Eriksen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Erik. 15,693
    32. Holm Danish: topografic name for someone living on a islet/small island. 15,029
    33. Kristiansen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Kristian. 14,489
    34. Clausen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Claus. 13,653
    35. Simonsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Simon. 13,110
    36. Svendsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Svend. 12,529
    37. Andreasen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Andreas. 12,305
    38. Iversen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Iver. 11,209
    39. Jeppesen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jeppe. 10,376
    40. Mogensen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Mogens. 9,651
    41. Lauridsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Laurids. 9,511
    42. Østergaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Østergaard" (literal meaning "the eastern farmstead"). 9,423
    43. Nissen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Nis. 9,398
    44. Jespersen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jesper. 9,318
    45. Jepsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jep. 8,876
    46. Frandsen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Frands. 8,781
    47. Vestergaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Vestergaard" (literal meaning "the western farmstead"). 8,181
    48. Kjær Danish: topografic name for someone living near a pond. 8,154
    49. Nørgaard Danish: nickname for a person living on the farmstead named "Nørgaard" (literal meaning "the northern farmstead"). 7,702
    50. Jessen Danish: patronymic name deriving from the given name Jes.

    7,657
    8808) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570982)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh darn...
    Did I do something wrong.. :((( Sorry

    I don't think so. If you did, so did I.
    8809) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Big Issue Foundation (Message 570976)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd never heard of it, Richard.
    8810) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570970)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The 1000th pooter wins. :)

    I can "bump" your post until the count shows 999, then I'll win. Unfortunately you and all the mods would have over 900 emails. ::poot::

    Maybe the mods will, but not me.
    8811) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570965)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It would be nice to know when the last poot was acceptable in this last pooting race and what the prize that biggest pooter wins?
    (Please understand I never poot in public..)

    The 1000th pooter wins. :)
    8812) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570843)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Deflection poot!
    8813) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570833)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Might not be for someone, but it is my "nighty time" here! 5:ooAM comes whether I want it or not. Have fun !!!!

    Night Cody.
    8814) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570771)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, you're in 194th place. :)
    8815) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Cunning Plan….*** CLOSED** (Message 570738)
    Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Sorry, Fuzzy, but your animated pic has no words with it and so we cannot guess what you mean. Therefore, it could mean anything. Because it could mean anything, you might not like how it would be interpreted. Therefore, please moderate yourself. :)
    8816) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570729)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it possible that there is one quite bored that he is so busy in the forums? *snickering*
    No, I won't say nightie night right now, because although it's 1:40 am at my place it's not the time to go to bed for me yet - and over there in the US, it's too early to go to bed :D

    Form your "I'm Thorin, I'm on Holiday and I'm Finding Some Kick-Butt Music to Download" thread. :)

    No offense meant, dude :D

    Why would I take offense? :)
    I'd start the thread for you, but someone might take offense.
    8817) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570725)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it possible that there is one quite bored that he is so busy in the forums? *snickering*
    No, I won't say nightie night right now, because although it's 1:40 am at my place it's not the time to go to bed for me yet - and over there in the US, it's too early to go to bed :D

    Form your "I'm Thorin, I'm on Holiday and I'm Finding Some Kick-Butt Music to Download" thread. :)
    8818) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570705)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Also now under consideration: "The Good Morning Thread," "The I Am Away Eating Thread," "I'm Watching a Movie Thread" and "I am Enjoying a Malt Thread."
    ( As always, please note: You are in no way forced to state it here, to state it at all and are not prevented from stating it in other threads --- in fact, multiple threads, if you wish. Also, you may post signs in here saying the thread is closed, so you can feel like you have magical powers, but do not expect the thread to really be closed. ;) )
    8819) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570638)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all due respect , Sarge. Doesn't help whom? You? Keifer?

    No, Pawly, SETI@Home or distributed computing in general.

    Actually it helped ME release some of the bad feelings I have about people throwing hissy fits on the boards when they don't get their way or {GASP!} the servers have crashed.

    Sorry to hear you were in a bad mood and needed that release.

    If someone wants to leave a project then why not do so with class and dignity. Meaning quietly and privately. Starting a thread to tell the world you're leaving is just childish.

    As I pointed out to Labbie, Keith made a lot effort over in the Number Crunching forum to point out problems and both ask and suggest fixes.
    To Keith: I do wonder why you brought this over to the Cafe, though. It may be a valid point that the thread title you chose and the initial post caused a lot of irritation. However, as I said to Bill Hyland, in Message 569813:

    Because posting the intent in the thread title is tantamount to saying, "I'm taking my toys and going home!" Anything after that is simply window dressing. If he wanted to let his reasons for leaving get a serious review, he would have titled the thread something like "The SETI@Home project is down 25% of the time!" and included the fact that he was disconnecting in the body if his initial post.

    Sorry, but I see no reason to believe this community's response to one thread title would be any different from its response to the other.


    Does he think others will follow his lead? Dogbytes and others tried that and they STILL post here sometimes while bad mouthing this project elsewhere. He'll be back just like they are occasionally.

    Again, virtually all of Keith's posts were in "Number Crunching," except for a few in "General Issues" and "Platform Specific Problems." (Easily checked, since, as of last night, he only had made 199 posts --- easily sorted through with little time and not much heavy analysis needed.) I think that should tell us a lot right there.
    Frankly, I do not think the connection to D/B and others is warranted.

    Last, to Keith again:


    It was disappointing to see the nature of the line of "discussion" that this thread took. The lowest point was the subject of fluff in feminine navals.

    Again let me refer you again to Message 566751 and Message 566808. Please remember these people were just trying to get you to lighten up and suggesting they'd give you gifts if you'd stay. Unfortunately, the second one devolved, and I am equally responsible for it. I am surprised mods did not remove the related posts as off-topic. Again, I apologize for being as much a part of an inappropriate following up on the latter one as anyone else that did.

    [EDIT: In the process of adding a P.S. Please check back in a few minutes.]
    Just because tact may have been lacking in the past doesn't mean we cannot try to turn a new leaf. Don't forget, people have been using the Internet for differing periods of time and even the ones that have been around a while might go many years before reading and posting on a message board. (The 'Net has many other uses and things available on it.) Newbies get trampled when not respecting the unique set of etiquettes that develops for each forum. Where is it stated how someone should craft a thread title when expressing the types of concerns Keith wished to express? I liked A/C's response, about not finding Keith's posts all that irritating.
    8820) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570607)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for me to go home before I get killed by the people in here:-)

    Whoo kills whoom? *pootering*
    Winfing! (with an F)

    You - me? Nightie night!
    Carl

    Carl's been winning about 52 minutes.

    Sure - while (and because) I was distracted, surfing somewhere else in the 'net :D

    How will you ever win if you keep letting things like that distract you from the important things in life?

    Well, winning the TLPTPHW thread is not the most important thing in my life :D
    There are other important things, too - even in the internet.

    Say it is not so!
    8821) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570596)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for me to go home before I get killed by the people in here:-)

    Whoo kills whoom? *pootering*
    Winfing! (with an F)

    You - me? Nightie night!
    Carl

    Carl's been winning about 52 minutes.

    Sure - while (and because) I was distracted, surfing somewhere else in the 'net :D

    How will you ever win if you keep letting things like that distract you from the important things in life?
    8822) Message boards : Cafe SETI : why do people believe in ghosts and ghost "busting"? (Message 570595)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who you gonna call............... ;)

    I always feel like ... somebody's watching me!
    8823) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570555)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for me to go home before I get killed by the people in here:-)

    Whoo kills whoom? *pootering*
    Winfing! (with an F)

    You - me? Nightie night!
    Carl

    Carl's been winning about 52 minutes.
    8824) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forest Fire (Message 570554)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The fire started on the Warren Grove Gunnery Range, a 9,400-acre expanse of sand and scrub pine used for bombing practice by military aircraft.
    The range was the same facility from which a National Guard jet accidentally strafed an elementary school with large-caliber rounds in 2004 during a training exercise. In 2001, an errant practice bomb caused a fire that burned more than 1,600 acres of pine forest.

    Have any links about the previous incidents?
    8825) Message boards : Number crunching : Paid too much attention to my BOINC manager (Message 570499)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yepp, you are a bonafide Satiholic.
    Say after me...
    "My name is Sarge, I am a Setiholic."
    My name is Carl, I am a Setiholic.

    Hi Carl, hi Sarge. My name is Pam and I am a Setiholic.

    Welcome Pam!
    Here is your badge!

    Hi, Pam.
    I was being silly when I created this thread and apologize.
    That said, let's try to turn this into something constructive.
    What would be the best types of questions and answers for this forum?
    In other words, how can the obsessive compulsive checking of WUs in the BOINC manager (and perhaps comparing this to what is shown on the web), and complaining be turned into something positive?
    8826) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570434)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poot never ever rests!
    8827) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 570432)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In absolute terms, the US gives more than, I believe, the sum of the next three countries.

    Is it 'absolute', or is it what you 'believe'???

    Got any facts? Or are you just blowing more patriotic sunshine up everyones behind... ;)

    Google it you *^&^&^%$.

    Is this the same Bill Hyland?!?
    The same one who chastised me when I finally sank to Chuck's level?
    The one that reminded D/B, when he was a moderator, of

      No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people, or to hijack a thread.
      No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.



    ???

    8828) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 570429)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Personally I find the whole idea of religion hostile and insulting, but I shall refrain from complaining about your posts if you allow those of us with a different opinion from yours to express it.

    Personally I find it hostile and insulting that finding the idea of religion both hostile and insulting, just as it is hostile and insulting to find the ideas of atheism and agnosticism hostile insulting.
    Furthermore, personally I find it just as hostile and insulting for people who suggest that "If you believe as I do, everything will be a-ok" as it is when people who were raised as agnostic/atheistic think they are any more free of the shackles of assumptions.
    Just a little pin prick ....
    8829) Message boards : Number crunching : Paid too much attention to my BOINC manager (Message 570348)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :)
    8830) Message boards : Number crunching : Paid too much attention to my BOINC manager (Message 570336)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Over the past 2 years, I have watched my BOINC manager endlessly. I can tell when there's a ghost unit. I know when there are upload and download problems. I'm a BOINC manager watching OCD geek. :)
    8831) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570323)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As a matter of interest, I am running ClimatePrediction on my MacBookPro, but was disappointed that the other Macs only get a continuously repeated message (with no explanation) that connection delayed by 24 hours. A search revealed that it was only available for Intel based computers, so I have 3 computers now idle for projects.

    And, he attached to Climate Prediction on February 20, 2006.
    So, obviously he knew there are other projects to crunch for when SETI's servers are having a bad time.
    8832) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570305)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while pooting on bullies and particularly the bullies that whined about being bullied.
    8833) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570304)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see no poems.
    Don't nobody know 'em?
    Five second of your time
    and you can begin a rhyme.
    8834) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570296)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hear, Hear, Pawly, I couldn't have said it better. It's not liek he asked for help. He just wanted some attention. Well, he got it.

    Oops!
    All other posts in Number Crunching, except for a few in Platform Specific Problems and General Issues. Does this tell us anything?
    Nah ... that might take some heavy analysis to figure out. LOL!!!
    8835) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570244)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats on the new, pooty, avatar, C/A ... er, C/P.
    8836) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570236)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Air freshener has been sprayed and a new day has dawned.
    Poot away!
    8837) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570115)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nighty night!
    8838) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570113)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My tUrn to Poot and Win!

    Poot on, my righteous brutha!

    Poot error: Poot error, unexpected Big Butt Poot in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/util.inc on line 122

    My brudda Captain Avatar, iz ya saying ya iz constipated and stuff?

    Oh Yes I iz canstipated...

    Man, datz wack!
    8839) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The "Nighty Night" thread (Message 570112)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here's where you can tell all your friends it is about time for you go to bed.
    (Please note: You are in no way forced to state it here, to state it at all and are not prevented from stating it in other threads --- in fact, multiple threads, if you wish.)
    8840) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570110)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My tUrn to Poot and Win!

    Poot on, my righteous brutha!

    Poot error: Poot error, unexpected Big Butt Poot in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/util.inc on line 122

    My brudda Captain Avatar, iz ya saying ya iz constipated and stuff?
    8841) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570106)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOT, Marcel (1901-1988)
    The original Pooter!

    Did he win?

    Wind maybe...

    Wow, ppl are doing great with the puns in the past 24 hrs. or so.
    8842) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 570104)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lemon prolly isn't needed in the tea I make.
    8843) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570102)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOT, Marcel (1901-1988)
    The original Pooter!

    Did he win?
    8844) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 570099)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevermind, I'll just make my own ice coffee.

    Why iced?
    Personally, if it is to be iced, I prefer iced tea over iced coffee.
    Of course, my tea is pretty strong. :)

    I am glad its your Tea that is Strong!

    My Dad's tea is like water.
    His coffee is like tea.
    My iced tea has been likened to the sweetened teas of the US south. It has been called "thick and sweet like molasses."

    I loved sweet tea when I lived in Kentucky..

    The guy that referred to it that way is from the Cincy, OH/Northern KY area.
    8845) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570097)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Straining But I am still Pootin!

    May the Poot be with you!

    and also with you!

    Amen!


    Ewww!
    LOL!
    8846) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 570095)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevermind, I'll just make my own ice coffee.

    Why iced?
    Personally, if it is to be iced, I prefer iced tea over iced coffee.
    Of course, my tea is pretty strong. :)

    I am glad its your Tea that is Strong!

    My Dad's tea is like water.
    His coffee is like tea.
    My iced tea has been likened to the sweetened teas of the US south. It has been called "thick and sweet like molasses."
    8847) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 570093)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    My tUrn to Poot and Win!

    Poot on, my righteous brutha!
    8848) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570092)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Straining But I am still Pootin!

    May the Poot be with you!

    and also with you!

    Amen!
    8849) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570089)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Straining But I am still Pootin!

    I see your Poot is as big as mine.
    8850) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570088)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Straining But I am still Pootin!

    May the Poot be with you!
    8851) Message boards : Number crunching : Explain "ghost"results (Message 570071)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thanks for the explanation, guys.
    8852) Message boards : Number crunching : Explain "ghost"results (Message 570058)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A lot have complained about this.
    If you do not explain what you mean, you've lost most of your audience and people you might be able to discuss the concerns with.
    8853) Message boards : Number crunching : Pay to crunch -- CLOSED (Message 570057)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No comment, As this has been debated already, Ad infinitum.

    Agreed

    Who are you???
    No profile…nothing!!!
    If you’re going to ask for money…..better let us know who you are!
    Would you listen to someone asking for money, who has a cat as an avatar and NO profile?

    A profile became necessary when?
    Perhaps you should check some of the stats of the poster again.

    Credit: 2,934,103
    RAC: 4,215
    8854) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570052)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They also have a choice on wether or not to make their feelings known as far as the person leaving.

    And I have a choice on whether or not to express my own feelings and that I felt some of the others' comments could be counter-productive. (Woo-hoo, consonance with the consonant C!)

    For those who didn't read the initial post, or failed to understand exactly what Keith was trying to get across, why are they not allowed to make their statements even if it IS based on a misunderstanding?

    To twist something Uncle Chuck posted a few hours ago, there's a big difference between suggesting that some comments could be counter-productive and the stifling of speech.

    It's not like most people do any really heavy analysis of a post before they respond to it.

    Heavy analysis was not called for in this case.
    In fact, I refer you to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39429&nowrap=true#566705, where my first post in this thread was:

    I don't think SETI have any idea as to what is happening at this end of the line
    Cheerio all - I'm logging off all my computers from SETI
    Keith

    Had enough of what?
    (Folks, enough of the "no sympathy from me" type-responses.)


    Notice the first sentence. I didn't jump to a conclusion and the second sentence is not an un-reasonable extension of the first.

    One other thing you need to realize is this...Some people simply don't careabout who stays and who goes.

    On the other hand, if someone else does care, that's their choice as well. Catch-22, huh?

    By the way....you, yourself, recently did something based on a misunderstanding of someone's intentions. I wouldn't start stomping too loudly about this subject, Sarge.

    "Stomping around" = making more of it than it is.
    As for the first part of that paragraph, no matter what you may believe, it is not germane to the current conversation.

    I have no ill feelings towards Jeremy or Pawly on this or any other matter. If, by some chance, they are offended by my suggestion that they no longer make such comments, then my apologies guys. Perhaps the three of us can discuss this further, whether in this thread or via PMs.
    8855) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570043)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2) How do we know Keith, or anyone that has ever expressed similar sentiments, has made a complete decision to detach and whether that has already been done? Before any of that is known, via whatever method, we start to see the "don't let the door ..." comments fly. Why?!?

    Extending my previous thought: could the negative responses cause someone to finally take the plunge and detach?
    8856) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 570038)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Cheerio all - I'm logging off all my computers from SETI

    Keith


    Just for awhile, or permanently?

    A/C, I don't think he's detached. Am I reading this correctly?
    8857) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570005)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOOOooottttt!!!&
    I'm WINNING!!!

    Welcome, Jim S.
    Misfit has added your pootological distinctiveness to his own.
    8858) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 570003)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Is it coming from the direction of San Diego? ;)

    Around the northern La Jolla area. Perhaps Torrey Pines.

    Well, keep on pootin', La Jolla!
    8859) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 570002)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ever seen a dried up river bed?

    I've seen a dried up creek bed instead. Well, not quite dry, but very very shallow at one point. The bed had broken up into square-like shapes that could fool one into thinking they'd been chiseled that way. (See discussion of the "Bimini Road" and it's supposed connection to Atlantis.)
    But no, I have not seen something like what's in the pix posted here ... so far as I can recall.
    8860) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 569980)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nevermind, I'll just make my own ice coffee.

    Why iced?
    Personally, if it is to be iced, I prefer iced tea over iced coffee.
    Of course, my tea is pretty strong. :)
    8861) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 569975)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like rock

    Yes, but how to explain the nice spherical shaping and that there are so many in one place?
    Just a question, not a suggestion that the other interpretation is correct.
    8862) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Gravity? (Message 569974)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Vogons?
    Finally...some HHG2G Fans!

    I guess since you're new you've missed frequent references to HHGTTG.
    Stramrovulon Beta.
    8863) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569973)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, I'm not faulting her at all. I was just using her as an example for Walla, since (being a high school student still) he thought it was odd that a teacher knew very little about something outside his field. That is perfectly normal, especially as you get older. Nobody can know everything. You wouldn't be normal if you could. Knowing where to find, and apply, information is just as valuable as knowing information right off the top of your head. Unless, you are on Millionaire. :^)

    Sorry, I think we're generally in agreement and my mind must have filled in an extra word when reading your response to Walla. Where you wrote "had," I think I accidentally read it as "had bad."
    As for the rest of your last post: interesting schtuff.
    8864) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569971)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    O.K., moving on then, please see my previous post.

    indeed, man - I read it

    Any thoughts on it? Like I said, I cannot immediately discount his observation.
    8865) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569967)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a quick win before I go sit in the sun on the deck and have a tall cold one.

    "Tall Cool One," Robert Plant (solo), 1988.
    8866) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569966)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I refuse to post in a thread that is so undignified.

    Oh my god, the perfect answer.

    I think he pooted ... er, posted. ;)
    8867) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569964)
    Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Is it coming from the direction of San Diego? ;)
    8868) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569883)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread has gotten pretty....STRUNG OUT.

    Nicely put, Blurf! :)
    8869) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569833)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Please try http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39438
    got about 30 WU's downloading

    Best response to this whole thread quoted here.
    8870) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569813)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Because posting the intent in the thread title is tantamount to saying, "I'm taking my toys and going home!" Anything after that is simply window dressing. If he wanted to let his reasons for leaving get a serious review, he would have titled the thread something like "The SETI@Home project is down 25% of the time!" and included the fact that he was disconnecting in the body if his initial post.

    Sorry, but I see no reason to believe this community's response to one thread title would be any different from its response to the other.
    8871) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569799)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What an amazing way to construe things.
    Tell you what: how about each of us, based on limited information, tells whomever we please to leave this project or that project for whatever reason we wish to make up. Don't worry, you can make up a reason that does not in any way address the concerns someone has raised.
    Yeah, I can see where that will head.

    Telling someone to leave is very different from expressing your opinion about someone's decision to leave.

    The problems here are:
    1) How closely are they looking at what the person has to say? Are some of them, perhaps, saying, "Oh, I've heard this before --- someone's leaving --- see ya and don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on your way out" before reading closely?
    1.5) It's pretty clear from some of the responses they did NOT read closely, as they seem to think it has to do with something on the message boards, when it clearly does not. That brings us back, as we have tried to cover several times, why there is some people link message board events with crunching for a certain project. That said, and I think it is an important issue to work out, it is not germane to the discussion of Keith's concerns.
    2) How do we know Keith, or anyone that has ever expressed similar sentiments, has made a complete decision to detach and whether that has already been done? Before any of that is known, via whatever method, we start to see the "don't let the door ..." comments fly. Why?!?
    8872) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569786)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hmmmm...should I?

    I have no idea.
    Do you mean lock the thread?
    EDIT: If so, please at least tell me if you disagree with what I've been saying. You may do so via the PM. Thanks.
    8873) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569771)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please define human construct and then try to determine whether many different things are or are not human constructs.

    I agree with that completely - and I'm sure you and I could compile a long list of examples... ( sciences, mathematics, philosophy... etc...) but astrology, to me, seems almost like a form of animism. We're attributing near-sentience to not only extremely distant but unrelated/unconnected celestial bodies. I believe the human condition is defined by the individual. Horoscopes are like a placebo for the emotions. If it "works" internally, of course, the resulting benefits are both tangible and valid - but not for the supernatural reasons many believe. I do agree with you though - and without getting bogged down in philosophy, it's interesting to consider that most of what we "know" is, in fact, second-hand knowledge

    O.K., moving on then, please see my previous post.
    8874) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569765)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8875) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569763)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keith / Kevin / Kyle Whatever. If he wants to take his ball and go home then let him. I like his Shorty Shorts thread though! Waytago, Kalvin!

    An attitude like this does not help. Better to say nothing if you disagree with someone leaving the project.

    Oh, please. It's not like many people around here can be accused of extreme tactfulness. There is absolutely no reason for someone not to make their opinion known in a case like this.
    Some may choose not to say anything even if they agree with Pawly. Some ( like Pawly ) may choose to step forward.
    It's not up to us to determine what is right and what isn't.

    And in any case, these boards are "for entertainment only", just like phone psychics and 900 numbers.

    Where, oh where, dear Mr. Hyland, did Keith ever say anything about the message boards?!? Oh. That's right. Nowhere, except to express confusion over the "brothel." If you do not know what I mean, then re-read the entire thread and do so closely this time. Thank you.
    8876) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569761)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What an amazing way to construe things.
    Tell you what: how about each of us, based on limited information, tells whomever we please to leave this project or that project for whatever reason we wish to make up. Don't worry, you can make up a reason that does not in any way address the concerns someone has raised.
    Yeah, I can see where that will head.
    8877) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 569757)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Folks, it is not difficult to understand.
    If you have someone on your ignore list, they cannot PM you here.
    Likewise, you cannot PM them.
    Trust me, I checked it.
    8878) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569707)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8879) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Massive database of all species to be put online (Message 569700)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They should start in the oceans
    As I've always heard it, we've sent more expeditions to other planets in outer space, than to our own oceans
    Which reminds me, how deep would the sea be if there were no sponges?

    The depth would obviously remain the same. On the other hand, if sponges could have that much effect, the question should be how high might the water levels go?
    8880) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569698)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Astrology doesn't even deserve our consideration. It's an entirely human construct. It's pure fiction, and as such, is suitable for entertainment purposes only - in which case, its use is justified. Otherwise, it's total BS. I'd never waste my time reading a horoscope - let alone pay for it! People who believe in astrology irritate me. I'm a very difficult person to irritate, mind you!! haha

    Please define human construct and then try to determine whether many different things are or are not human constructs.
    8881) Message boards : Cafe SETI : only skype? (Message 569690)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But has your question about BOINC help and whether it is only through Skype been answered?
    8882) Message boards : Cafe SETI : only skype? (Message 569668)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Were you referring to BOINC Live Help Desk?
    8883) Message boards : Cafe SETI : only skype? (Message 569666)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ohhh ... you're talking about the BOINC help?
    There used to be a sticky that kept that thread towards the top of this forum for a while. I never used it before. Maybe we can track down info on that again and find out if it is via Skype only. My guess is, yes, it is Skype only.
    As for combining credits from different machines, you first had to have attached to a project on the new machine using the same e-mail address you had originally used on that project.
    8884) Message boards : Cafe SETI : only skype? (Message 569658)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    just built new mach and re-installed boinc with latest version and she aint workin so good ........ are the servers that messed up? is skype the only client for im ?

    Yes, the server is indeed [that badly] messed up [currently].
    I don't follow your question regarding Skype.
    8885) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569652)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fethajja att jag vinner era dubiösa bekantskaper. Och det här är verkligen ett annat språk:-)
    I love this!

    "Bold shark yes that I win your dubiösa acquaintances. And this is actually another language: -)"
    "Yes, I am a bold shark that has won your dubious acquaintances. Oh, and this is another language." ???

    And there it is proven that you can use the Babelfish without ever getting anything. Fethajja = to really know something (only used if your bellow fifteen).
    Dubiös = dubious.
    Unt now!
    Oppa lidre derauti hausknauta ga 'n varga sa he jär förbålt!
    I would like to see a translation of that one:-) And yes, it is actually the Kings swedish.
    Carl

    It wasn't BabelFish.

    Now I am curious, what was it?

    Some other website. BabelFish does not have Swedish to English.
    Before using the site, I was hoping my (old) knowledge of German might help, but it did not help one bit. I guess the languages are too different after all.
    In 2002, I downloaded an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation using KaZaa and it had sub-titles, in Danish, I believe. I was able to make enough sense of that based on knowing what was being spoken in English and the (old) knowledge of German.
    8886) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569644)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fethajja att jag vinner era dubiösa bekantskaper. Och det här är verkligen ett annat språk:-)
    I love this!

    "Bold shark yes that I win your dubiösa acquaintances. And this is actually another language: -)"
    "Yes, I am a bold shark that has won your dubious acquaintances. Oh, and this is another language." ???

    And there it is proven that you can use the Babelfish without ever getting anything. Fethajja = to really know something (only used if your bellow fifteen).
    Dubiös = dubious.
    Unt now!
    Oppa lidre derauti hausknauta ga 'n varga sa he jär förbålt!
    I would like to see a translation of that one:-) And yes, it is actually the Kings swedish.
    Carl

    It wasn't BabelFish.
    8887) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569635)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fethajja att jag vinner era dubiösa bekantskaper. Och det här är verkligen ett annat språk:-)

    I love this!

    "Bold shark yes that I win your dubiösa acquaintances. And this is actually another language: -)"

    "Yes, I am a bold shark that has won your dubious acquaintances. Oh, and this is another language." ???
    8888) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Message from Zog of Planet Zarg (Message 569614)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Your universal translator should enable you to read my sig. Ka'pla.

    I think you mean Q'aH'PlaH or something like that.
    Du'ju'KaH, StoVoKor!
    8889) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569604)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this thread is pootilicious:-)

    Fergie poots!

    Now I've heard it all, a tractor that poots...

    No, Fergie is a female hip-hop singer. Fair voice, fair looks, lame lyrics.
    8890) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569586)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think this thread is pootilicious:-)

    Fergie poots!
    8891) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569583)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bawahahahahahahahah... Pooty with a smile!

    There he is!!!
    Woo hoo!
    Welcome, C/A!
    Poot away!

    Sarge You Made my Day! Poot!

    Glad to help. Too bad I could not help with someone else.
    8892) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569575)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bawahahahahahahahah... Pooty with a smile!

    There he is!!!
    Woo hoo!
    Welcome, C/A!
    Poot away!
    8893) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569569)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8894) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569554)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You see mods/admins? Sometimes it DOES help to create a distraction. You may now apologize for that two week ban back at the end of September, 2006.
    BTW: you may also mod the post directly proceeding this one.
    8895) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569510)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8896) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569501)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The one and only true LPTPW is right here.
    Poot with us!
    (Myth, legend, conspiracy ... or ... pooting plan?)
    8897) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569500)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8898) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569461)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw that competition yesterday. Misfit in swedish means that you are a very well-musculated person of the female persuasion.
    I am still working my too swedefied head into understanding that Misfit is a person of the male persuasion.
    *Scratching my shaggy chin*

    How dare you speak of our beloved mod that way?!? Changing Misfit into "Miss 'Fit'!" How appalling! ;)
    8899) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 569449)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No, I do not understand either side and I won't get into it.
    You've been provided one solution for part of the online situation.
    I'm sure you can work out rational solutions to most or all of the rest.
    8900) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569432)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But at least it was a cute thread stretcher:-)

    Misfit is our resident cuteness detector.
    8901) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569429)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *re-POOT*

    Way to go!
    8902) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569423)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread stretcher!
    8903) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569421)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats, Dune!
    Winning while leaving to visit my friend :)

    Thorin, have you pooted today?
    8904) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569417)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39532!

    But... Didn't I just win that one???
    Winningstreak comming up!

    Try to win again!

    Aha... I think I am starting to understand now... *with dull dumb voice*

    I don't understand.
    8905) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 569415)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A myth/legend/conspiracy ... or ... a cunning plan?
    8906) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569411)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *Holding my hands boxer-style over my head*
    "I wish to thank the academy, my couches, my coaches, my wife and daughter for not strangling me, the dog for not doing that doggy thing against my leg, and most of all I would like to thank the communist party in the Peoples Republic of Irkutsk for all the Slobotniks they have invested in the Norwegian navy. I would also like to tha...argh!"
    *FTUD!*

    Demiurg is currently winning.
    I know someone can do better!!!
    C/A, perhaps?
    8907) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 569410)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sent PM to you which was rejected!
    Looks like this is the route for posters to prevent unwanted contacts.

    Did you get my earlier PM that I sent to you? Curious whether it got through? Taking you off ignore.

    Yes I did Dune.
    This proves the PM system can block unwanted posts from known trolls, etc.

    But, but, but ... Johnnnn!!! If you block me, how can I ever win LPTPW!

    That explains why Dune or a female cruncher always wins:-) Those are the only un-blocked people left:-)

    It's a conspiracy, I tell you!
    Errr, I mean ... a cunning plan!

    Yepp... A cunning plane so that he will be alone with all the beautifull persons of the female persuasion:-)

    Only in SETI-thread-land!
    8908) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569406)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39532!

    But... Didn't I just win that one???
    Winningstreak comming up!

    Try to win again!
    8909) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Yeahhhh!!!!! Olé! (Message 569400)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Double thread!
    8910) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#33 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569398)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39532!
    8911) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 569395)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sent PM to you which was rejected!
    Looks like this is the route for posters to prevent unwanted contacts.

    Did you get my earlier PM that I sent to you? Curious whether it got through? Taking you off ignore.

    Yes I did Dune.
    This proves the PM system can block unwanted posts from known trolls, etc.

    But, but, but ... Johnnnn!!! If you block me, how can I ever win LPTPW!


    That explains why Dune or a female cruncher always wins:-) Those are the only un-blocked people left:-)

    It's a conspiracy, I tell you!
    Errr, I mean ... a cunning plan!
    8912) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569388)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    *POOTY* Because I can!

    And you're winning! With SBD!
    8913) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Last Person to Poot Wins [1] (Message 569384)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Get out your air freshener and come out pooting!
    8914) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 569383)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sent PM to you which was rejected!
    Looks like this is the route for posters to prevent unwanted contacts.

    Did you get my earlier PM that I sent to you? Curious whether it got through? Taking you off ignore.

    Yes I did Dune.
    This proves the PM system can block unwanted posts from known trolls, etc.

    But, but, but ... Johnnnn!!! If you block me, how can I ever win LPTPW!
    8915) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569382)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've found your thread!

    Great!
    Errr, I mean ... what thread?
    Are you spinning yarns again?

    As always, you need to spin a lot of yarn to hyperthread:-)

    Now if only we could find cosmic string!
    8916) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569378)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've found your thread!

    Great!
    Errr, I mean ... what thread?
    Are you spinning yarns again?
    8917) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SKYPE (Message 569358)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For a good time call pawly_canuck

    For a boring time call demiurg2

    Of course there's not a problem, Pawly! Sheesh!
    8918) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 569357)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keith / Kevin / Kyle Whatever. If he wants to take his ball and go home then let him. I like his Shorty Shorts thread though! Waytago, Kalvin!

    An attitude like this does not help. Better to say nothing if you disagree with someone leaving the project.
    8919) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569226)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    Nope, n0bOdy's turn!
    8920) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569224)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8921) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569221)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8922) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569219)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are units you can put underneath it with an extra fan.

    Thanks but I think the real solution is a shiny new computer...when I can afford it. Dare I say the dreaded Mackintosh word around here ;))

    No! PC, PC, PC!!!
    8923) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 569196)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Jerry FaLwell

    8924) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569193)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8925) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569192)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what thread got deleted/higgen?

    Probably nothing important. :)
    8926) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569191)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what thread got deleted/higgen?

    Huh? What? Something happened?
    Sorry, I was working on the dissertation.
    8927) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569190)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what thread got deleted/higgen?

    Huh? What? Something happened?
    Sorry, I was asleep.
    8928) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569188)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    what thread got deleted/higgen?

    I dunno!
    8929) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Total Random Weirdness... (Message 569183)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I want my dollar star.

    You want your MTV.
    8930) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569180)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back (until the ice melts)


    The thing works fine as long as it is on it's side, fan blowing on it. But heaven forbid I should actually use the thing...Then I could toast marshmellows on the bottom of it!

    btw: Now winning.

    If it's a laptop, trying propping the back up on something so some air can get under it. That usually helps a lot.

    Going to bed now, goodnight everyone.

    There are units you can put underneath it with an extra fan.
    8931) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569168)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8932) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569147)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8933) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569141)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8934) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Ha ha ha! (Message 569136)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can't take a joke, so you have to have the thread removed/hidden? It's a GAME, people! Get over it!!!
    8935) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569135)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8936) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569125)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Although she had a bigger nose.
    8937) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569124)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Actually, she looked more like this (the one on the left), age progression:

    8938) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569120)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HeeHeeHee Guys are sooooo easy.:))

    That's what Alicia S. thought in 1989, but I sent her home and never slept with her. Just to make a point.
    (WTH was I thinking?!?)


    Okay, I want this 'Alicia S' person's photo and social security number...

    Here's Alicia and I in 1984: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1060/Mptv/1060/10882-0018.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0086822.
    8939) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569117)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HeeHeeHee Guys are sooooo easy.:))

    That's what Alicia S. thought in 1989, but I sent her home and never slept with her. Just to make a point.
    (WTH was I thinking?!?)


    Okay, I want this 'Alicia S' person's photo and social security number...

    Why would you want her SSN?!?
    As for a photo, I do not think I could even find one now.
    Besides, she was 19 or 20 at the time.
    8940) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569114)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HeeHeeHee Guys are sooooo easy.:))

    That's what Alicia S. thought in 1989, but I sent her home and never slept with her. Just to make a point.
    (WTH was I thinking?!?)

    That's just it, you weren't thinking.

    Actually, I was. With my brain, not that other part. LOL.
    8941) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569107)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    HeeHeeHee Guys are sooooo easy.:))

    That's what Alicia S. thought in 1989, but I sent her home and never slept with her. Just to make a point.
    (WTH was I thinking?!?)
    8942) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569105)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Game over.
    Kenzie wins.
    8943) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569100)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1000!
    EDIT: Darn it! 1001! Kenzie wins! :(
    8944) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569098)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    999!
    8945) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569096)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    kenzieB is going to sneak in and try to win by first PMing defenseless guys!
    8946) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569095)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    4 to go!
    8947) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569090)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    990!

    Oops, that was 991, now 992, and keeping John awake!
    8948) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569089)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    990!
    8949) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569087)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while saving the thread from ... trolls!
    8950) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569084)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8951) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569079)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    985?
    8952) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569078)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One last win before sleep!
    982
    So when is the winner to be declared, and who will it be?

    Stay up!

    That's what she said.
    8953) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569077)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One last win before sleep!
    982
    So when is the winner to be declared, and who will it be?

    Stay up!
    8954) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569075)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    8955) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe...Closed for cleaning.... (Message 569065)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning, despite registry cleaners and a dropping RAC

    Your in the wrong thread.

    LOL!
    8956) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569064)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning with all my WUs uploaded and reported, totaling almost 1700 credits!!!


    Mine too...'cept almost all are pending...

    Mine are all pending too. The validators are disabled at the moment.

    I only have 2 or 3 pending.
    Laptop has many projects running now, after no BOINC on it for nearly a year.
    Desktop, only SETI and I had to turn it off for 5 days due to a campus-wide electrical shut down while I was away on two interviews.
    8957) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569052)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'LL SUPPORT kENZIE AND HELP HER HERE?

    She's a mature girl who can handle things herself. ;)
    8958) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569050)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's not what he said! :P
    8959) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569048)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for a change.

    BTW, Jeremy, since I was only in that part of NJ for an interview and left Monday evening to return to Michigan, it would not be easy to drop by the station to file my complaint.
    8960) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569047)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for a change.

    Such as?
    8961) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569042)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win despite a very low number of hours from RichardG's thread stars.
    I must try and do better!
    I must try and do better!
    I must try and ...
    I must try ...
    I must ...
    I ...
    ....?

    You spawned the last few threads of this. Do you ever let yourself win?
    8962) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569037)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    RichaG!!
    Sup Homey!

    For a bad time, Skype canuckian_paulster!
    8963) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569033)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Still winning:)

    Apparently so.
    8964) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569030)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm winning!

    Oh. OK, then. ;)
    8965) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brand New SETI@home Video..... WOW its cool! (Message 569028)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    John, one thing to consider is making it clear to ppl not already involved in crunching that crunching for SETI and joining your team are two different things. (Except that they should first crunch before joining the team. What is not clear, though, is that one can crunch but not join a team or join a different team.)
    8966) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Total Random Weirdness... (Message 569026)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, c’mon guys, you know the drill. When all else fails:

    Blame MISFIT!

    kenzieB catches on quick!
    Anyway, total random weirdness = TL having me on his ignore list here and yet willing to chat with me on Skype.
    8967) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569025)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all that said, a friend said about a year ago that he cannot completely discredit astrology because of the nature vs. nurture debate. If environment can affect us, why can't the month in, or astrological sign under, which we were born? Note that the friend is also working on a Ph.D. in Math. So, try de-bunking the connection to nature vs. nurture, because I had no immediate answer.
    8968) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 569023)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one here wants to hear this, I couldn't believe it myself. I'm in the information technology block classes at my high school. We currently have a professor from a local community college who comes down and teaches us macromedia flash. One day I had a photo of a galaxy as the wallpaper on my computer. Our professor came over started talking to me about astrology, he asked me if I had a telescope, and he went on to talk abut the sun. A COLLEGE PROFESSOR DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASTRONOMY AND ASTROLOGY!


    Well, in his defense, just because he is a "college professor" doesn't mean much. I'm sure many can relate to having had professors/instructors that were severely lacking in one discipline or another. I had a teacher for a couple of the BS psychology classes that I was required to take that didn't know simple math. The woman had a PhD and couldn't multiply decimals. This was at a large university.

    He isn't alone with his astrology versus astronomy confusion. I would wager that 50% of the population doesn't know the difference. Yes, I'm that cynical. This should come as no surprise though. Astrology is in every grocery store checkout line and is on page A2 of the daily paper. Astronomy, for the general masses, is just random blurbs on the news: a little remote control car on Mars, eclipses (how do they happen again?), and, at the most, perhaps a naked-eye comet (what do they signify?).




    As a guy nearly done w/ a Ph.D. in Math and concentrating on Math Education, I am not at all surprised by a Ph.D. in Psychology being unable to multiply decimals. I imagine many of you would be shocked if you knew just how weak the mathematical knowledge of many of your peers in many (but not all) of your countries truly is.
    (Note: not being surprised is not to be equated with accepting it.)
    Rather than call the professor bad, you should have left it at how one who has is good/excellent in one field can be severely lacking in another. The days of being able to be a Renaissance Man (person) are LONG past. Can any of us claim to be even close?
    8969) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569021)
    Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Who's winning?
    8970) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 569015)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    When I have a bad day at work, this is sometimes why:



    Where has all the water gone?

    Water, water, everywhere, not a drop to drink!
    8971) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568961)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess I should simply ask: Jeffrey, have I interpreted your question correctly?

    Actually, you seem to be doing a fine job as a mediator between me and the herd... ;)

    Then why is it that it appears you're always getting stampeed...? :)

    A deflection. Duly noted.
    8972) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568955)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hummpft....Poot!

    Always read the label before buying underwear, C/A! Make sure it is poot-proof!
    8973) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568946)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.

    nope. I win.

    I had a long day, tomorrow is holiday and I can sleep long, so I will win.

    Too many holidays.
    Work, work, work, I say!!!
    8974) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 568938)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why aren't you using your real name?

    One word: chucky... ;)

    You mean your real name is not Jeffrey? I wonder if his real name is Chuck?

    I hope you guys are talking about that other Chuck.

    Yes.
    8975) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568935)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    8976) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 568932)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why aren't you using your real name?

    One word: chucky... ;)

    You mean your real name is not Jeffrey? I wonder if his real name is Chuck?
    8977) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568926)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    just winning (- or attempting to win)

    And it almost worked!
    8978) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568924)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess I should simply ask: Jeffrey, have I interpreted your question correctly?

    Actually, you seem to be doing a fine job as a mediator between me and the herd... ;)

    There you have it, folks.
    So, do we clear the air about some things? (Yes, I realize some things are confidential.)
    Or, do we drop it? That not only includes this sort of question being asked, but also dropping the attempts to deflect the conversation.
    8979) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568913)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    He asked a legitimate question, which can be re-worded: "Why do people leave the project rather than just stop reading and posting on the message boards when much of the problem they have is in regards to the message boards?"

    I keep forgetting to word things in such a way that even a second grader would understand... ;)

    Before I make any more guesses, no matter how reasonable, and make any sweping generalizations, I guess I should simply ask: Jeffrey, have I interpreted your question correctly?
    8980) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568908)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    keeping the winning streak alive

    >snip<

    Blah.

    Blah <snip! :P>

    Bah hum-bug.

    boloney :D

    Bah-loney?
    8981) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568898)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    keeping the winning streak alive

    >snip<

    Blah.

    Blah <snip! :P>

    Bah hum-bug.
    8982) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568885)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    keeping the winning streak alive


    Blah.
    8983) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568857)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    P.S. - Blurf, is it stomach flu?
    Can she hold down water, toast or apple sauce?
    If not, there's a good chance it is stomach flu.
    8984) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568856)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning because I work in hell and tonight I have to go home to a wife who is projectile-vomiting...God help me but I win

    Work in hell?


    Dude, you deserve to win!

    As does Thorin for injuring himself at work recently and me too for my run-in with a weird police officer on Sunday,
    8985) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Private Messages - can this be removed from account? (Message 568853)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I see my harasser's friends won't stop as usual. Lot's of people used to live in basement flats , DB. Why don't you leave me alone. I still get comments , emails, and generally bad mannered behavior from your kind from all over the web. Go away.

    Neither have I, nor do I wish to communicate with you in any manner, shape or form by any type of medium. You're now plonked...and not by mommy dearest.

    Had I known this myself earlier, I could have dealt with him on a different level than I and many other people did. I can't go back and change anything, and since I've quit the Seti project, chances are that I won't be communicating with him in the foreseeable future.

    Yep, we're all doing a real good job of following up, aren't we?
    8986) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568846)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning because I work in hell and tonight I have to go home to a wife who is projectile-vomiting...God help me but I win

    Work in hell?
    8987) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568811)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another Winning Touch Down to move into first place


    Winning while messing up pic linx.
    8988) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Astrology vs. Astronomy (Message 568776)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Astronomy is the study of Stella Facts, Astrology is the study of stellar crap..pure and simple.

    There are actually thirteen zodiac constellations that the Sun appears to track through, Ophiuchus being the unused one, and I believe that in total the planets (visible) track through 15, but with the invisible worlds it raises again, but I am not too sure of the number and I beleive this varies over time due to perturbations of the various planet orbits and the fact that Pluto and mercury have highly eccentric orbits.

    It's total ballderdash..to use an old polite English phrase.

    Yep, but ppl who believe it won't get anything out of your post. Please be more concise and explain what any of this has to do with it.
    8989) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568756)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is R/B and I approved this message.

    LOL!
    8990) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I'm impatient... I need more work from SETI@home, please. (Message 568755)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nice that you have a lot of time on your hands to keep checking this. I suggest you waste some of it by posting on these message boards some more. It'll take your mind off it. Barring that, improve your off-line life. ;)
    8991) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568694)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win.
    8992) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568662)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Mmm, coffee.
    8993) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568640)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    'Scuse me, just elbowing in for a fraction of a second win.
    btw "The Prez" is much easier to type than the old nickname :)

    I hadn't even noticed he'd changed it!
    On the other hand, one could have cut and paste KB7RZF. The Prez has 2 more characters to type in it.
    8994) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 568637)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the 'real world' everyone calls me "Mac", like the woman on JAG. Which I hate (both the nickname and the TV show).
    So online, where I get to choose, I chop my given name up in a different way.

    Ewww! You're no Mac. You are kenzie, Mackenzie, or beautiful. :)
    8995) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568617)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.

    Yes I am.

    Not.
    8996) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568612)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    8997) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568603)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    8998) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568601)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Off-line, some problems are dealt with behind the scenes and others are dealt with publicly. People learn nothing about how to interact with each other on-line when most things are dealt with behind the scenes. Posts removed, bans, etc. ..., this is all behind the scenes stuff. Other things also go on that we are not supposed to mention. Clearly, no one is learning and nothing is solved.
    Jeffrey's question might be viewed as bait. Whatever his intentions were, I view it as an opportunity to clear the air. I find it unlikely that will occur, however and unfortunately.
    He asked a legitimate question, which can be re-worded: "Why do people leave the project rather than just stop reading and posting on the message boards when much of the problem they have is in regards to the message boards?"
    Now, the conversation can either be dropped because we won't gain any understanding, but let's not deflect the conversation to make it look like it was for some other reason.
    8999) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568597)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9000) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568595)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry, perhaps I should call him brain-dead instead.
    If only people had clues, but now they pay their dues.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander, as well as Ned Flanders.
    9001) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568542)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Please note, we have now found proof it is possible for someone to be caught up in a temporal causal loop. Someone please send a message of "3-3-3" into the next loop, then look at the Commander's pips during a critical moment.
    9002) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568540)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    So, how's it going, Thorin?
    9003) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568520)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...

    Winning!
    9004) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568513)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hello?
    9005) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568511)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Wake up, mods.
    9006) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568509)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Sneaking suspicion someone wrote a script to spam this thread.
    9007) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568507)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    ^
    |
    This man should be disqualified. ;)
    9008) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why aren't you using your real name? (Message 568506)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Why aren't you using your real name?

    Why aren't you?
    9009) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568503)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Yes, say it again, why don't you?
    9010) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568501)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Very nice.
    9011) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568498)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    The originality has now become truly frightening.
    9012) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568495)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    gETTINg more and m0re OriginaL by the m0ment!
    9013) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568493)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK FDBGDF- Since FDBCA says "No GFBbumping Cats"; hereFDB's the most faFDBmous Cat of all tFGBime:


    Felix The Cat Pics.


    Felix The Cat Song.


    WIDFBNNING,FDGB AFDBGAIN!!! 8-D


    9014) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568491)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the mosDBADFFBt famous Cat of all time:


    DAFBCat Pics.


    FeliFDBx The Cat Song.


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    9015) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568488)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think that's spam.
    Shouldn't the multiple posts be deleted?
    :)
    9016) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568484)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time: Felix The Cat Pics. Felix The Cat Song. WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Please come back, C/A!

    C/A! C/A! Wherefore art thou, C/A?
    9017) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568481)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time: Felix The Cat Pics. Felix The Cat Song. WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Please come back, C/A!
    9018) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568477)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK - Since CA says "No bumping Cats"; here's the most famous Cat of all time:
    Felix The Cat Pics.
    Felix The Cat Song.
    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    No, he said, "No bumping SARGE."
    9019) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568471)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I'll save you, Nell!" Dudley Do-Right.

    Anyone else tired of the cartoon characters yet?

    Me! I am!
    9020) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568470)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "I'll save you, Nell!" Dudley Do-Right.

    Anyone else tired of the cartoon characters yet?
    9021) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568466)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Go Go Gophers Song 1.


    Go Go Gophers Song 2.


    Full Lyrics:


    Out west in Gopher Gulch lived Indian tribe.
    Then come the pioneers, pushed them aside.
    All Indians leave but two, they vow to fight.
    What can two Indians do? (Gibberish)
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.

    Here comes the colonel with his sergeant.
    Both are a-roarin’ and a-chargin’.
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.

    Two little Indians, no others near.
    Colonel he vows these two soon disappear.
    Fighting the army with soldiers galore.
    What can two Indians do? (Gibberish)
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.

    Here comes the colonel with his sergeant,
    Both are a-roarin’ and a-chargin’.
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go.
    Go go gophers, watch them go go go!


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    No gophers allowed, either.
    9022) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568464)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WAIT!!! Pulling into the lead; it's, THE MACH 5 with Speed Racer!!!




    Speed Racer Theme Song.


    Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer - he’s a demon on wheels
    He’s a demon and he’s gonna be chasin’ after someone.

    He’s gainin’ on you so you better look alive.
    He’s busy revvin’ up a powerful Mach 5.
    And when the odds are against him
    And there’s dangerous work to do

    You bet your life Speed Racer will see it through.
    Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer, Go!

    He’s off and flyin’ as he guns the car around the track
    He’s jammin’ down the pedal like he’s never comin’ back
    Adventure’s waitin’ just ahead.
    Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer, Go!


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    Speed racer emits too much soot and poot!

    Winning again!
    9023) Message boards : Politics : Political Thread [19] - CLOSED (Message 568463)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now in my class you will learn to think for yourselves again.

    The real shame is how true that statement actually is... School used to be about teaching people 'how to think', nowadays they only teach you 'what to think'... There is a big difference between the two... ;)

    Nope.
    The school has been modeled after the factory for at least 150 years.
    When was this Golden Age you refer to, for I am willing to bet it never existed.
    9024) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568458)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WAIT!!! Pulling into the lead; it's, THE MACH 5 with Speed Racer!!!




    Speed Racer Theme Song.


    Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer - he’s a demon on wheels
    He’s a demon and he’s gonna be chasin’ after someone.

    He’s gainin’ on you so you better look alive.
    He’s busy revvin’ up a powerful Mach 5.
    And when the odds are against him
    And there’s dangerous work to do

    You bet your life Speed Racer will see it through.
    Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer, Go!

    He’s off and flyin’ as he guns the car around the track
    He’s jammin’ down the pedal like he’s never comin’ back
    Adventure’s waitin’ just ahead.
    Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer, Go!


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    Speed racer emits too much soot and poot!
    9025) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568456)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bumper Poot!

    Bumper Poot!

    Pooting bumpers?

    Exactly!

    Emissions should be reduced!
    9026) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568453)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bumper Poot!

    Bumper Poot!

    Pooting bumpers?
    9027) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568451)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning :D

    Indeed?
    9028) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568448)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's no need to fear, Underdog is here!!!




    Underdog "wav" file.


    There's no need to fear! Underdog is here!

    when criminals in this world appear
    and break the laws that they should fear
    and frighten all who see or hear
    the cry goes up both far and near
    for Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all who rob or plunder
    Underdog. Underdog!

    when in this world the headlines read
    of those whose hearts are filled with greed
    who rob and steal from those who need
    to right this wrong with blinding speed
    goes Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all who rob or plunder
    Underdog. Underdog!



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    9029) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568446)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Or when they tear down curtains.
    Or when they bat at the Christmas tree ornaments and the whole tree falls down.
    9030) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568443)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning despite error messages.

    Error Poots!

    cat poots?

    cat poots are far worse than Dog Poots!

    But kitties still rule!
    9031) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568441)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning despite error messages.

    Error Poots!

    More errors as time goes by!
    Why, oh why, oh why?
    To take away my win they try,
    or to get me to from the SETI Store buy, buy, buy?
    Bye!
    9032) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568438)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning despite error messages.

    Error Poots!

    cat poots?
    9033) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568436)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning despite cats.
    9034) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568435)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning despite error messages.
    9035) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568432)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back at the top, and:


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    Hi TL! No Bumping cats!

    Cats?
    9036) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568429)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The connection is OK. So I win?
    BUMP to Thorin

    BUMPs back :)
    winning

    Thorin's bringing bumping back.

    But now I am winning.
    9037) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568426)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The connection is OK. So I win?
    BUMP to Thorin

    BUMPs back :)
    winning

    Thorin's bringing bumping back.
    9038) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568414)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9039) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568413)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are no results, so nothing can be duplicated...so at this stage things are in the area of an unproven theory.

    LOL!
    Please tell me, what is the theory?

    That there is something for the most part lacking here...intelligent life in the cosmos.

    Perhaps you are referring to The Drake Equation or something like that.
    But, let's get down to brass tacks.
    You know that's not what Jeffrey was getting at. I happen to believe that his question is valid. The comment posted in the profile of one of the mods that left says it all. That's one of my pieces of evidence. Do you really want us to believe that it was instead because results we send back are not being analyzed?
    9040) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 568411)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and anyone know what the text says?

    What text?

    The text that appears to be in Japanese or some other Asian language.
    9041) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 568410)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not this one again!
    LOL!
    Come on. It looks like it is being lifted on a rope from a helicopter. Sounds like very primitive technology for a "UFO."

    I see no rope, and I sure don't see how its primitive. Cows have complex bodies, several stomachs, can provide large amounts of food etc...seems logical for a group of starving aliens ;-)

    Ever take a photo and use a program to edit something out? I have.
    I imagine it is quite easy to do the same with a video.
    So, not being able to see a rope, let's say that has been explained away for the sake of argument.
    Heck, even if you still disagree, look at how it droops.
    9042) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568281)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's no need to fear, Underdog is here!!!
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    Ugh
    9043) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568277)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, enough Mighty Mouse.
    9044) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568275)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quotes from StarCraft/BroodWar:
    "Shields up, weapons on-line... What, not equipped with shields??? Well then, buckle up!", Terran Battle-cruiser.
    "Power overwhelming... We burn... We need focus... It all looks so different on this side... It's beautiful... They should have sent a poet... Break on through...", Protoss Archon.
    "Identify target!!! Yes, Sir!!! What is your major malfunction?!? I'm about to drop the hammer... ...And dispense some indiscriminate justice!!!", Terran Siege Tank.
    Oh, and btw:
    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Thank the lord there's no sound here. Otherwise I have a feeling I'd be hearing the Thundercats song about now.

    Huh?
    9045) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568273)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now winning.
    9046) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568271)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    User TimeLord04 (ID: 8363397) is not accepting private messages from you.

    Guess I wasn't supposed to leave the Calm Chaos compound. ;)

    I don't think that had anything to do with it.

    Of course it did!
    9047) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568269)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    User TimeLord04 (ID: 8363397) is not accepting private messages from you.

    Guess I wasn't supposed to leave the Calm Chaos compound. ;)
    9048) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 568268)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    User TimeLord04 (ID: 8363397) is not accepting private messages from you.
    Interesting, huh?!
    9049) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568266)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    User TimeLord04 (ID: 8363397) is not accepting private messages from you.
    9050) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568264)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pre-emptive strike.

    Strike 3!

    you're out.
    Game over, I win!!!

    Nope.
    9051) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568261)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Really winning this time!
    9052) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568260)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    9053) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568257)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pre-emptive strike.
    9054) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568254)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It still isn't Wednesday, yet!!! WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    You're still too enthusiastic to be allowed to win.

    We don't need troll ... I mean, Monday.
    9055) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568252)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It still isn't Wednesday, yet!!!


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    9056) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568251)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It still isn't Wednesday, yet!!! WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    You're still too enthusiastic to be allowed to win.
    9057) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568249)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not Wednesday, yet!!!
    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    You're too enthusiastic to be allowed to win.
    9058) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568248)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's not Wednesday, yet!!!
    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    You're too enthusiastic to be allowed to win.
    9059) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568246)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is another one.

    Oh yeah? :)

    Yeah...I'm running out of material.

    Let us turn to The Bard for more material.

    To be...or not to be...

    Actually i was delayed by this piece of prose from the server:

    Warning: mysql_pconnect() [function.mysql-pconnect]: Too many connections in /disks/setifiler1/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/db.inc on line 22
    Unable to connect to database - please try again later Error: 1040Too many connections

    I have seen that a few times tonight.
    9060) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568239)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is another one.

    Oh yeah? :)

    Yeah...I'm running out of material.

    Let us turn to The Bard for more material.
    9061) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568236)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is another one.

    Oh yeah? :)
    9062) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568234)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is the one.

    That win it all for me!!!

    9063) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568233)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is the one.

    9064) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568232)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back at the top of the World, and:


    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D


    9065) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 568226)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Subject You dork!
    Sender Sarge User profile image
    Date 16 May 2007 1:53:55 UTC
    Message You are a massive dork-wad!
    Delete | Reply | Inbox

    Self-harassment?!
    9066) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568225)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here I come to save the day!!!!! 8-D

    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Winning w/o the help of Mighty Mouse.

    9067) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 568222)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not this one again!
    LOL!
    Come on. It looks like it is being lifted on a rope from a helicopter. Sounds like very primitive technology for a "UFO."
    9068) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568216)
    Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here I come to save the day!!!!! 8-D

    WINNING, AGAIN!!! 8-D

    Winning w/o the help of Mighty Mouse.
    9069) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 568066)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's broken. I tried sending a test message to someguyincanada and it didn't work.


    Did you use his ID#? Its 276422 (I think)

    I tried responding to kenzieB but all I got back is binary!
    I think we'll just have to talk on Skype instead. ;)
    9070) Message boards : Cafe SETI : I thought it was about the science (Message 568063)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are no results, so nothing can be duplicated...so at this stage things are in the area of an unproven theory.

    LOL!
    Please tell me, what is the theory?
    9071) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568056)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said ...
    Back in Michigan and winning.


    :P
    9072) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568054)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said ...
    Back in Michigan and winning.

    9073) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568050)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back in Michigan and winning.
    9074) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 568047)
    Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin is posting here while bleeding profusely...that's dedication!

    If he doesn't win, he deserves an honorary win.
    As do I, since I was harassed by a New Jersey police officer yesterday for no reason. Note: do not go to a McDonald's a few blocks from a Hilton Hotel. You'll quickly find yourself in a bad side of town.

    Aren't Hilton and McDonalds just other words for slum?

    If you put the name Paris in front of it.
    9075) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567099)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.






    9076) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567095)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning. Thorin, hope it gets better.

    @Sarge, did you make a complaint about the harassment? I always make sure to stay out of the bad parts of town. Specially here in Reno. I avoid downtown, too many homeless people, crooks like to hang out there, druggies, prostitutes.

    Jeremy, I have thought about lodging a complaint.
    How might I go about it?
    Anyway, I did not have any idea it'd be a bad part of town until a minute or two after spotting the McD's arches and started walking towards them.
    9077) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567086)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.





    9078) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567073)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, when I hear/read ambulance, I only think of the vehicle that transports one to a hospital. People with the ambulance may be EMTs (Emergency Medical ... Technicians?), who can only do limited things to help before rushing one to a hospital. At least, that's how it works here.
    9079) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 567072)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Keith:

    The bit about the "brothel" was a brief joke that built around someone suggesting she'd let you spend time with some cute girls if only you'd stay. Laugh at it or be disgusted by it, but, of course, the brief conversation it generated was off-topic.

    Regarding August 10, 2005, I had switched from Classic to BOINC by then, but I am not aware of the outage to which you're referring. However, I think that your concerns, as do the concerns of others, stem from looking too closely at the tasks under your manager, worrying about credit and RAC. Am I on the right track?

    I also am having trouble downloading a new WU that shows up in my task and transfer tabs. Again, why is it such a problem, though?

    I would say the only thing we should be concerned about is analysis of the resulting crunched WUs we send back.

    Last, obviously, your thread has not been closed. Since some of us took it off-topic for a bit, maybe it was in danger of it, but apparently the danger has passed. I suspect the off-topic stuff was the only thing that would have made a moderator consider closing the thread.
    9080) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567069)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin is posting here while bleeding profusely...that's dedication!

    If he doesn't win, he deserves an honorary win.
    As do I, since I was harassed by a New Jersey police officer yesterday for no reason. Note: do not go to a McDonald's a few blocks from a Hilton Hotel. You'll quickly find yourself in a bad side of town.
    9081) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567065)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin, are you referring to the hospital rather than the ambulance?
    9082) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567062)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looking like I might be winning, despite feeling sleepy/drunk/an idiot/level headed by dribbling evenly both sides/in a white jacket/white rubber room/etc

    (cross out the most applicable to your circumstances)

    The one in bold applies to me.
    9083) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567052)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey You Guys!

    Been up 30 minutes, eh, Dan?

    Was up for 20 minutes at that time...Just awake enough to post.

    LOL!
    I'd been up 75 minutes by then.
    Finishing a PowerPoint presentation before heading to the interview.

    I hope all that work pays off for you...Good luck Sarge!

    Thanks and ...
    500th post?

    heh heh heh...

    Darned armadillos!
    9084) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567050)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey You Guys!

    Been up 30 minutes, eh, Dan?

    Was up for 20 minutes at that time...Just awake enough to post.

    LOL!
    I'd been up 75 minutes by then.
    Finishing a PowerPoint presentation before heading to the interview.

    I hope all that work pays off for you...Good luck Sarge!

    Thanks and ...
    500th post?
    (Edit --- Crap: 501)
    9085) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567046)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey You Guys!

    Been up 30 minutes, eh, Dan?

    Was up for 20 minutes at that time...Just awake enough to post.

    LOL!
    I'd been up 75 minutes by then.
    Finishing a PowerPoint presentation before heading to the interview.
    9086) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567020)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey You Guys!

    Been up 30 minutes, eh, Dan?
    9087) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567012)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.




    9088) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567009)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.



    9089) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 567001)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.


    9090) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566998)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.

    9091) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566994)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9092) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566988)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9093) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 566892)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge....
    There's a reason why the Oxford Philosophic Dictionary has an enormous girth. Looking up terms in Webster's is useless when people are trying to discuss deeply thought out ideas and theory.
    What takes 1,000 pages in a proper philosophic dictionary is about what the ENTIRE standard english dictionary consists of, sir.
    He set up a straw man TROLL bait.......sorry.
    Don't feed the trolls.

    Nonetheless, it does not change my point.

    How so, Sarge?
    Maybe I've mistook your point. Will you restate it for me, sir? I'd like to address it.

    Given Jeffrey's interests, it might be appropriate for him to read your 1000 pages that go solely into the definitions of altruism and egoism.
    When it comes down to it, most people do not have the time for it, but there's another good reason: definitions should be reasonably short, to capture the essential meaning of something and to set boundaries on things; this thing is x, this other thing is not x.
    BTW, an example of evolving definitions is that of what is a planet. Personally, I think it is a joke that people would protest that Pluto has been demoted to a dwarf planet. The only thing worth debating is the definition that has now been chosen for a planet and whether it meets the standard of other good definitions. A definition is not for making your favorite Disney character ... er, planet ... retain its status.
    9094) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Note to self: (Message 566886)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    : mute Skype when going to bed early.
    Friend from Texas may call 45 minutes after laying down and 10-15 minutes after actually falling asleep.

    Has he ever woken up in Oklahoma and phoned you from there?

    Having grown up in Oklahoma, I can guarantee that Texans do not wake up in Oklahoma. ;)

    No, you can't! :P
    9095) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . iT's Daniel Michel's Birthday - May 13th, 2007 (Message 566884)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one leaves this party till Condi says so...
    <=== yucky!
    We've another four hours of partying here on the west coast.

    9096) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Note to self: (Message 566882)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    : mute Skype when going to bed early.
    Friend from Texas may call 45 minutes after laying down and 10-15 minutes after actually falling asleep.

    Has he ever woken up in Oklahoma and phoned you from there?

    No.
    He has called me while back in Michigan and also while driving from Texas to some southeastern state for a conference. So, while he did so, I IM'd his wife and told his wife he'd said she's Fergalicious.

    I'd be wary about fergaliciousizing that.

    Please...not in front of the ladies.

    Actually, I used their last name, which sounds a lot like Ferguson. So, it wasn't quite "fergalicious," but close enough.
    9097) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Note to self: (Message 566869)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    : go back to sleep.
    9098) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . iT's Daniel Michel's Birthday - May 13th, 2007 (Message 566868)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One more big thank you for all the greetings in this thread...And a special thank you to Dune for starting it...I had a great time!

    Isn't it 2.5 hrs. before it ends?
    9099) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Note to self: (Message 566867)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    : mute Skype when going to bed early.
    Friend from Texas may call 45 minutes after laying down and 10-15 minutes after actually falling asleep.

    Has he ever woken up in Oklahoma and phoned you from there?

    No.
    He has called me while back in Michigan and also while driving from Texas to some southeastern state for a conference. So, while he did so, I IM'd his wife and told his wife he'd said she's Fergalicious.
    9100) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Note to self: (Message 566861)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    : mute Skype when going to bed early.
    Friend from Texas may call 45 minutes after laying down and 10-15 minutes after actually falling asleep.
    9101) Message boards : Cafe SETI : He really means it! He added an exclamation point!!! (Message 566846)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Unread post(s) Political Thread [19]
    668
    Gone! User profile image
    4966 4 minutes ago
    9102) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566845)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while having the first cup of coffee today

    Winning without having been to bed yet.
    9103) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566840)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while taking my evening run.

    Winning while huffing and puffing behind kenzieB, but, wow, what a view! ;)
    9104) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566839)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Apparently I have just started a brothel.

    Sure looks that way.

    So, which blonde do you want, Labbie?
    If I were you, I'd say neither.
    9105) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566831)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you stay I'll let you play with Blurf's girlfriends...

    He won't mind 'cause he's married.

    I want the one on the left.

    I'll FedEx her right over. I'm sure neither Blurf nor Keith will notice if one is missing ;)

    Referring to yourself as "her." ???

    You can send me the one with the umbrella sticking out of her head. I feel very sorry for her because she has no arms, but that's the sort of guy I am, prepared to help the 'armless out.

    You can't have her. I have been promised from the left to the middle.
    You're stuck with the blondes.
    9106) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 566824)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ten days since my last hostile take over??!!

    Let's Get It Started

    9107) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 566822)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anywho, I was harassed by a New Jersey police officer today.
    9108) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 566821)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    At least Spam hasn't found it's way into the new system.

    True! But, in the meantime, I still have no undead private messages.
    9109) Message boards : Cafe SETI : You have no unread private messages. (Message 566818)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have no unread private messages.
    9110) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566816)
    Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you stay I'll let you play with Blurf's girlfriends...

    He won't mind 'cause he's married.

    I want the one on the left.

    I'll FedEx her right over. I'm sure neither Blurf nor Keith will notice if one is missing ;)

    Referring to yourself as "her." ???
    9111) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566809)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you stay I'll let you play with Blurf's girlfriends...

    He won't mind 'cause he's married.

    I want the one on the left.
    9112) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566798)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I said I WIN! WOOHOO!

    I said "You have no unread private messages."
    9113) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 566797)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9114) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566793)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Stacey and why not?
    I am a spoilt 93 year old teenager!
    but at my advanced years I need my sleep!
    Getting up early for a home delivery of derv for the 4x4 (biodiesel from agricrops) 426

    What, you only care why Stacey's not a mom and not why I'm not?!?
    I'm hurt!
    9115) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566786)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Stacey. Happy Mother's Day (?)

    Hi Kenzie, Thank you, but alas, I am not a mother. I'm still the spoiled kid with no responsibilities, yaaaaaay.

    I'm not a mother, either.
    9116) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 566781)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread closed.
    9117) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 566759)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This thread remind me of the days of yore when, it is said, philosophers and theologians would spend vast amounts of time arguing over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
    In this thread we have endless arguing over semantics.

    I'm trying to argue over whether or not there are angels.... :-)

    I'm trying to establish whether or not kenzieB is an angel.
    9118) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 566754)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Need a hint?
    9119) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 566744)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +×æ_åÉè_ìÜ×ø_ÆÜ_æÉê+

    Not as easy to translate this one, eh? Need a hint?
    9120) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566740)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Okay now that is just ironic.

    A little too ironic.
    And, yeah, I really do think ...
    it's like rai-i-in ... .
    9121) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 566710)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge....
    There's a reason why the Oxford Philosophic Dictionary has an enormous girth. Looking up terms in Webster's is useless when people are trying to discuss deeply thought out ideas and theory.
    What takes 1,000 pages in a proper philosophic dictionary is about what the ENTIRE standard english dictionary consists of, sir.
    He set up a straw man TROLL bait.......sorry.
    Don't feed the trolls.

    Nonetheless, it does not change my point.
    9122) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sorry mates, I've had enough - Goodbye (Message 566705)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't think SETI have any idea as to what is happening at this end of the line
    Cheerio all - I'm logging off all my computers from SETI
    Keith

    Had enough of what?
    (Folks, enough of the "no sympathy from me" type-responses.)
    9123) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 566704)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If he looked these up rather than went with his opinions, then, I hate to tell you R/B, but that makes it hard to call his definitions "wrong."
    Looking to science and mathematics, definitions are evolving and agreed upon socially. Examples may be posted later.
    Put your winkys away...
    Your definitions are wrong and incomplete.
    You defining these 2 vastly differing schools of ethos in such a way is short sighted at best and devious at worst. Such a quipped definition of these terms might be likened to a physicist being asked what an electron is..
    "it's a negatively charged particle"
    A wholly insufficient and even misleading answer.
    Altruism is [snip]

    Altruism:
    Regard for others, both natural and moral; devotion to the interests of others; brotherly kindness; -- opposed to egoism or selfishness. -- The quality of unselfish concern for the welfare of others.
    Egoism:
    Excessive love and thought of self; the habit of regarding one's self as the center of every interest; selfishness; -- opposed to altruism.
    ;)

    9124) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566603)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry to interrupt your wet moment...But I win!!!

    Eh?
    9125) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 566594)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    +×æ_åÉè_ìÜ×ø_ÆÜ_æÉê+
    9126) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566586)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dumb Blond Moment of the Day (Brunette edition):

    Just woke up and was checking my mail. Decided to take a shower. Got up from ‘puter, but forgot to take off glasses. Got in shower. Water spots immediately form on lenses. Wondered why it is raining in my bathroom.

    Sounds sexy.
    9127) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566571)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning.

    Nah.

    Why not?

    Dunno.
    9128) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566564)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to winning.

    Nah.
    9129) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566556)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES!

    YES!
    QUITE RIGHT!

    Quiet Riot?

    QUIET RIOT!!!

    With Randy Rhoades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxGuLsVpUXo
    Without Kevin DuBrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KJH0OiRomc
    See who you can recognize in this one: Hear n' Aid- Stars (a hard rock/heavy metal response to "We Are the World."
    9130) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566526)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES!

    YES!
    QUITE RIGHT!

    Quiet Riot?
    9131) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566523)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YES!

    9132) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566516)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good afternoon and may I say what a great pleasure it is to be seen WINNEROOing here in this thread of competition?341

    No?
    9133) Message boards : Politics : History Repeating Itself (Message 566514)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Please remove the off-topic posts. (Including this one.)
    9134) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566465)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've returned to claim my rightful place as the WINNER!!!!

    Eh?
    9135) Message boards : Cafe SETI : NEW! whats this! SETI@home private messages! (Message 566284)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bad idea.
    9136) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566252)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Greetings from NYC.

    Greetings Sarge...What is the occasion for your visit to NYC?

    An interview Monday at a university close by, but not in NYC itself.

    I hope the interview goes well.

    Domo arigato.
    9137) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566250)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Greetings from NYC.

    Greetings Sarge...What is the occasion for your visit to NYC?

    An interview Monday at a university close by, but not in NYC itself.
    9138) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#32 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 566245)
    Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Greetings from NYC.
    9139) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 565583)
    Posted 12 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
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    9140) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564832)
    Posted 11 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while trying to think of a word that rhymes with Nantucket.

    Easy ... bucket.

    pluck it

    Twang twang ... twang.
    Bang.
    Bang and blame.
    Fame
    burns like a flame
    until you forget my name.
    Ain't it a shame
    some are slow at the rhyme game?
    9141) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564830)
    Posted 11 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while trying to think of a word that rhymes with Nantucket.

    Easy ... bucket.
    9142) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564795)
    Posted 11 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    2

    Winning!
    9143) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564793)
    Posted 11 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't believe I like your tone....


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    9144) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564473)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm insulted by all of these zeros and ones. My twos are feeling left out.

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    9145) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564470)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
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    9146) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564469)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9147) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564449)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
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    9148) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 564446)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Poor Dune ... I should have let him down gently. 8P
    Watching TV, drinking scotch *Yaaaa*
    1859

    I'll drink scotch with ya....
    0500

    5:05 a.m.
    9149) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564444)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9150) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564442)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9151) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564440)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9152) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564438)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9153) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564436)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9154) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564431)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9155) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564429)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9156) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564427)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9157) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564425)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9158) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564422)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9159) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564417)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
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    9160) Message boards : Cafe SETI : It's Blurf's birthday today May 10'th... (Message 564413)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Happy Birthday Blurf!
    I'm sending a couple of my friends over to help you celebrate...
    Jusk keep them away from the cake.

    I gotta go with the first one on the left.

    Amazing. We actually agree on one more thing.
    9161) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564411)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01010011, 01101111, 00101100, 00100000, 01110111, 01101000, 01101111, 00100000, 01100101, 01101100, 01110011, 01100101, 00100000, 01101100, 01101001, 01101011, 01100101, 01110011, 00100000, 01110100, 01101111, 00100000, 01100010, 01110101, 01101101, 01110000, 00111111
    9162) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564410)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01000010, 01110101, 01101101, 01110000, 00100001
    9163) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564409)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Eating sandwiches, drinking Rock Star Energy Drink and 55 minutes, approx., before heading to the airport.
    9164) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 564393)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ;)
    9165) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564373)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Quite right too Sarge

    Sorry ... did you say ... Quiet Riot?
    9166) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 564371)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== way too tired to continue this conversation.
    9167) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564356)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I saw the opportunity, waking up at the time I did, and took it?
    <grin>

    Eh?
    9168) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564352)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A wide grin

    and

    the

    800th post as well

    Can't be bad?

    800

    Back to bed with you, Mr. Clark. LOL!
    9169) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 564350)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would a rational man do? :-)

    No one is perfectly rational.


    Sounds like 'loser talk'.

    edit....of course you haven't met 'all' men. Even if you had what would be classified as a 'rational man' doesn't incorporate temporal facts that you describe as 'all the time'.

    If it does then that means there is no such thing as a rational man. This to me is funny because the inversion of this concept is never employed. Noone ever says, 'There is no such thing as an irrational man'.....

    The logical attack is directed at Reason. Not the other way around...

    In dealing with proposition functions, it is sufficient to find one example that makes the statement false to declare the entire statement "all people are rational all the time" false.
    9170) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED (Message 564305)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Swell...Atlantic hurricanes usually buzz up through PA and Upstate NY when they die out.....

    Try Hurricane Agnes, 1972. Check out what it did well into central and western NY.
    P.S.: Your profile indicates you are in upstate NY. That could mean anything. As a former NY state resident, Jamestown, Corning, Elmira and Binghamton are rightly called Southern Tier; Syracuse, central; Pulaski, Watertown, Alexandria Bay, Massena, northern; Rochester, Buffalo, western.
    9171) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Comcast CEO Shows Off Super Quick Modem (Message 564304)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9172) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 564303)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Benjamin Franklin:
    The moral and religious system which Jesus Christ transmitted to us is the best the world has ever seen, or can see.

    The political system which Benjamin Franklin and his colleagues transmitted to us is the best of all possibilities currently out there?
    - The Sarge (2007)

    Oh, it's a terrible system with many problems. The only thing that recommends it is that it works better than any other ever tried.

    Is that not what I said? (Said Data to Geordi.)
    9173) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564301)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Oh, that would be a good ad:

    BORG - House-broken by design
    Do you want your husband stop sitting and farting around?
    He could be more obedient?
    More effective?
    More to serve your needs?
    More HELPFUL?
    Have him transformed to a Borg - and he'll be your best servant.
    And he won't mind anymore that you have a lover besides.
    Borg - servants by design
    Call 1-800-B-O-R-G-S-E-R-V-E, and your Husband will become a living robot!

    oh man, is this really the best way to improve men?

    Who needs improving?
    Some of us only play ppl in need of improvement on the 'Net. ;)
    9174) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564177)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01001001, 00100000, 01110111, 01100001, 01101110, 01110100, 00100000, 01110000, 01101001, 01111010, 01111010, 01100001, 00101100, 00100000, 01110100, 01101111, 01101111, 00101100, 00100000, 01110111, 01101001, 01110100, 01101000, 01101111, 01110101, 01110100, 00100000, 01100011, 01101000, 01100101, 01100101, 01110011, 01100101, 00101100, 00100000, 01100001, 01101110, 01100100, 00100000, 01110100, 01101111, 00100000, 01100110, 01101001, 01100111, 01110101, 01110010, 01100101, 00100000, 01101111, 01110101, 01110100, 00100000, 01110111, 01101000, 01100001, 01110100, 00100000, 01110100, 01101000, 01100101, 00100000, 01101110, 01100001, 01110100, 01110101, 01110010, 01100001, 01101100, 00100000, 01101100, 01101001, 01101110, 01100111, 01101111, 00100000, 01101001, 01110011, 00101110, 00100000, 00111011, 00101001
    9175) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564143)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That translated slightly funny, lol. Have came out as Æve.
    9176) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564142)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That translated slightly funny, lol. Have came out as Æve.
    9177) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564139)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Hey, baby! Wanna help me kill all humans?"
    (Bender, Futurama.)
    9178) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564138)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL@"work harder for the collective."
    9179) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 564134)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Benjamin Franklin:
    The moral and religious system which Jesus Christ transmitted to us is the best the world has ever seen, or can see.

    The political system which Benjamin Franklin and his colleagues transmitted to us is the best of all possibilities currently out there?
    - The Sarge (2007)
    9180) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564114)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This just in! Misfit revealed as the fifth of the final five Cylons!
    9181) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564112)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :-)

    Wait a minute...Borg don't smile....

    I'm not, look at my avatar, I have to write my smileys. :-)

    But you just said that Borg have no emotions, so why do you use a smiley?

    To show the effect of an emotion, since I have none.

    I don't think you're really a Borg.

    Don't you remember Hue? Or was it Hugh?
    9182) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564111)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :-)

    Wait a minute...Borg don't smile....

    I'm not, look at my avatar, I have to write my smileys. :-)

    But you just said that Borg have no emotions, so why do you use a smiley?

    Jeffrey is part of the Lore-break-off unimatrix. Since the death of Lore, the unimatrix has been infected by the leadership of ... ;) ... Jeffrey. :)

    Um, cool.

    The first Jeffrey was supposed to say "Jeremy."
    9183) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564107)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :-)

    Wait a minute...Borg don't smile....

    I'm not, look at my avatar, I have to write my smileys. :-)

    But you just said that Borg have no emotions, so why do you use a smiley?

    Jeffrey is part of the Lore-break-off unimatrix. Since the death of Lore, the unimatrix has been infected by the leadership of ... ;) ... Jeffrey. :)
    9184) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564104)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01001001, 00100000, 01101000, 01100101, 01100001, 01110010, 00100000, 01001001, 00100000, 00100010, 01100011, 01101100, 01100101, 01100001, 01101110, 00100000, 01110101, 01110000, 00100010, 00100000, 01110000, 01110010, 01100101, 01110100, 01110100, 01111001, 00100000, 01110111, 01100101, 01101100, 01101100, 00101110
    9185) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 564094)
    Posted 10 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Armadillos, bats, this place is becoming a regular zoo.
    I guess that means the borg boy has to shovel out the stables!

    Oh no, borgs don't shovel ****. LOL

    Then what do they do with it?

    They don't do nothing, not our job, we don't care. Borgs have no feelings.

    ::squish::

    So they just live with it everywhere?

    We fling it when under attack.

    At each other?

    At whoever we please.

    Oh, no, you wasted a good avatar by fitting in with a mod!
    9186) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564028)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    0101000101110101011010010111010000100000011001110110100101110110011010010110111001100111001000000110000101110111011000010111100100100000011101000110100001100101001000000111001101100101011000110111001001100101011101000010110000100000011100110110100101101100011011000111100100100001
    9187) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 564026)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Distributed computing cracks Enigma code

    More than 60 years after the end of World War II, a distributed computing project has managed
    to crack a previously uncracked message that was encrypted using the Enigma machine.

    One of my profs, while I was working on my Master's, was a member of the team working in England to crack the Enigma code. A guy named Peter Hilton. If I remember correctly, he was not even 18 when he joined the team.
    9188) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563862)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Example:
    BOINC is crunching while I am connected to a LAN at home.
    I shut down, go to a coffee shop, fire the laptop back up. Sometimes the wireless networks available in the area are either down or it is not easy to connect to them.
    Yet, when I have no wireless connection, if I open the BOINC manager, I do not see it working on the WUs it was working on 10-20 minutes earlier. Nothing shows under the project or tasks tabs when I do not have a connection.

    There are only two explanations I can think of;

    1. You are having a strange dream.

    2. The reason you can't see the project or WUs is because the BOINC Manager has not finished opening up yet. Your network connections are such that your BOINC manager is going to sit there trying to open your networks connections, or some processing relating to lack of network connection, and will not continue with the next step of opening up, which is displaying all the things about your project and WUs that it should display.

    I think you need to get your network settings sorted out. (For both 1 and 2 above.) Make sure your Advanced-options-connections/HTTP proxy etc settings in BOINC Manager are OK

    Nope, no strange dreams. Any time I bother to check it, it has happened every time.
    In the cases where the wireless network is available, it seems part of the issue is that sometimes when I boot up, BOINC starts before the wireless does and other times, the reverse.
    9189) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563858)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dot

    Com

    bust.
    9190) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 563838)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Would a rational man do? :-)

    No one is perfectly rational.
    9191) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563821)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01011001 01100101 01110011 00100000 01001001 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110
    43 61 6e 20 79 6f 75 3f

    4F, 66, 20, 63, 6F, 75, 72, 73, 65, 20, 49, 20, 63, 61, 6E, 21, 20, 20, 57, 68, 61, 74, 20, 61, 20, 73, 69, 6C, 6C, 79, 20, 71, 75, 65, 73, 74, 69, 6F, 6E, 21, 20, 3A, 50
    9192) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563791)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dot

    Short for Dorothy?
    9193) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563774)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Related question: If you do not have a 'Net connection for a while, the manager shows nothing under the project tab and no WUs under the task tab. Is it still crunching at the time, or is nothing going on when you have no 'Net connection? If so, why? The connection should only be needed to download WUs and upload results, correct?

    If you are not attached to a project or do not have ant WUs showing, then there is nothing to crunch - your BOINC manager will be idle. Apart from trying to download WUs from a non-present network link (unless you set the option to stop it trying to use a network connection).

    Lack of network connection will not stop your BOINC Manager Crunching. There are some things that will, including lack of disk space and lack of available memory, both of which have parameters in each projects 'General settings'.

    Example:
    BOINC is crunching while I am connected to a LAN at home.
    I shut down, go to a coffee shop, fire the laptop back up. Sometimes the wireless networks available in the area are either down or it is not easy to connect to them.
    Yet, when I have no wireless connection, if I open the BOINC manager, I do not see it working on the WUs it was working on 10-20 minutes earlier. Nothing shows under the project or tasks tabs when I do not have a connection.
    9194) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563761)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    43 6f 6f 6c 20 61 69 6e 27 74 20 69 74 20 63 6f 6d 70 75 74 65 72 20 6c 69 6e 67 6f 21 21 21 0d 0a 0d 0a

    53, 6F, 2C, 20, 79, 6F, 75, 20, 6C, 69, 6B, 65, 20, 74, 68, 65, 20, 63, 6F, 6D, 70, 75, 74, 65, 72, 20, 6C, 69, 6E, 67, 6F, 2C, 20, 64, 6F, 20, 79, 6F, 75, 3F, 20, 3A, 29, 20, 20

    NTRU?
    9195) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563759)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Related question: If you do not have a 'Net connection for a while, the manager shows nothing under the project tab and no WUs under the task tab. Is it still crunching at the time, or is nothing going on when you have no 'Net connection? If so, why? The connection should only be needed to download WUs and upload results, correct?
    9196) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563757)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    just sneaked in here, and it reminded me on some problem with my BOINC under Linux: Is there a way to tell the BOINC manager where to place the WUs? I mean to another partition than "/home"? Last weekend I again had to stop my Linux crunching BOINC because the WUs filled the entire home-partition. :(

    Good question.
    If I ran Linux, I might be able to answer. Anyone else running it on Linux, though?
    9197) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563746)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi, I'm a Marvel...and I'm a DC. (Mac PC Parody) #2
    9198) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563741)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01011001 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101001 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100001 00100001 00100001

    01001110011010010110001101100101011011000111100100100000011001000110111101101110
    01100101
    9199) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563739)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The direct drive coupler on my Whirlpool washing machine just snapped... again.

    It's made to spin clothes, it's not a Merry-Go-Round.

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round Misfit

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round, Misfit!

    Yeah, what they said!

    Yeah!

    YEAH!!!!!

    Don't get TOO excited.
    9200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563737)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01001110011010010110001101100101011011000111100100100000011001000110111101101110
    01100101
    9201) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563736)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    0100111001101111 ?
    9202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563734)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    010110010110010101110011 ?
    9203) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563732)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The direct drive coupler on my Whirlpool washing machine just snapped... again.

    It's made to spin clothes, it's not a Merry-Go-Round.

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round Misfit

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round, Misfit!

    9204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Binary thread closed. (Message 563730)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    01000011011000010110111000100000011110010110111101110101001000000111001001100101
    0110000101100100001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111
    ?
    9205) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563728)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The direct drive coupler on my Whirlpool washing machine just snapped... again.

    It's made to spin clothes, it's not a Merry-Go-Round.

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round Misfit

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round, Misfit!

    Yeah, what they said!

    Yeah!
    9206) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563723)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The direct drive coupler on my Whirlpool washing machine just snapped... again.

    It's made to spin clothes, it's not a Merry-Go-Round.

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round Misfit

    Yeah, not a Merry-Go-Round, Misfit!
    9207) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563698)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    100000110101010011010101?

    1-0-0-1-0-0-1
    S.O.S.
    1-0-0-1-0-0-1
    In distress
    1-0-0-1-0-0

    Is Rush quoting a Rush song? "Distant Early Warning"?
    9208) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563522)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Julian - I WIN!!!
    Delivery guy - WHAT??
    Julian - I WIN!!!
    Delivery guy - HEY I got the same hand as that last time you and I didn't win...
    Julian - WELL I WIN!!!
    Delivery guy - THATS BULL$H**!!!
    9209) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563521)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Julian - Electricity
    Sonny - Yeah
    Julian - Constitution
    Sonny - Yeah
    Julian - Philadelphia
    Delivery guy - Fish
    Sonny - Yeah
    Delivery guy - Pony
    Sonny - Yes
    Delivery guy - Hip, hiphop, hip-hop-anonymous, ****it, you gave him the easy ones!!
    (It was supposed to be hippopatamus.)
    9210) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 563520)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the movie Big Daddy with Adam Sandler he has this little kid. They play cards all the time with the foriegn delivery guy. The delivery guy gets mad because the kid has cr@p hands all the time like 2 - 5 - 8 - J - K and he keeps throwing the cards down and saying I WIN :b4

    Well the foriegn delivery guy gets pissed off and says what is this. Everytime he wins. I have those hands and I don't win! Whats the name of this game. The little kid says "I WIN!" LOLOL That is the name of the game "I win" LOL!

    9211) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 563519)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ok ok ok... Consider it reconsidered... ;)

    Now ... where's Chuck? :)
    9212) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563515)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Weakly encrypted message:

    01001011 01100101 01101110 01111010 01101001 01100101 00101100 00100000 01001001 00100000
    01100011 01100001 01101110 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01110100 01100001 01101100
    01101011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00101100 00100000
    01100010 01100101 01100011 01100001 01110101 01110011 01100101 00100000 01000100 01110101
    01101110 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100001 01100011
    01100011 01110101 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101111 01100110
    00100000 01110011 01110100 01110010 01100001 01101110 01100111 01100101 00100000 01110100
    01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 01110011 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01001001
    00100000 01100100 01101111 00100001

    Now, back to the topic. :)
    9213) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563507)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    100000110101010011010101?
    9214) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563503)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C/A, I haven't looked in that forum for some time. Sorry. However, different people tend to peruse different portions of the overall site, so does it hurt to gather some ideas here and take it from that point on?
    Dan, good point about some pros and cons. Using the website means you can set things differently for different computers, all at once rather than walking to each machine, right?

    Right now you get one setting for all your computers from the website...no machine by machine settings...it's one size fits all...If i could set preferences with the BOINC manager i could set my laptop up to run at less than 100% CPU...While letting the rest run full bore.

    Dan, scroll all the way down in general preferences and see:
    "Add separate preferences for home"
    "Add separate preferences for school"
    "Add separate preferences for work"
    Then again, what if one has multiple computers in a particular location?
    9215) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563495)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Plus, the whole idea isn't to complain, but suggest improvements.
    (BOINC is open source, right?)
    9216) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563492)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C/A, I haven't looked in that forum for some time. Sorry. However, different people tend to peruse different portions of the overall site, so does it hurt to gather some ideas here and take it from that point on?
    Dan, good point about some pros and cons. Using the website means you can set things differently for different computers, all at once rather than walking to each machine, right?

    Hi Sarge, Thanks for starting this thread, I didn't mean to sound negative really
    but if a suggestion comes from US crazies on the Cafe thread, I doubt it would ever reach the top....

    Maybe, but in a few months I can sign it "Dr. Sarge."
    9217) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563488)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Set preferences with the manager, not on the websites.
    2) Be able to select more than one WU at a time you wish to suspend work on or resume work on.

    I'm sure I'll have more ideas.
    Anybody else have ideas?
    Or contrary thoughts to the two I have already listed?

    If we get a good list, how should we bring it to the attention of those who could create/distribute an update?

    isn't that what the wish list is for? I doubt they would really listen to us...

    Wish list

    I'd put money on saying your right. :-)

    Then again, the version of the manager currently available is not the one I originally downloaded. I'm pretty sure there are differences, least of which is the simple and advanced views.
    9218) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563486)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C/A, I haven't looked in that forum for some time. Sorry. However, different people tend to peruse different portions of the overall site, so does it hurt to gather some ideas here and take it from that point on?
    Dan, good point about some pros and cons. Using the website means you can set things differently for different computers, all at once rather than walking to each machine, right?
    9219) Questions and Answers : Wish list : BOINC manager ideas (Message 563477)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Set preferences with the manager, not on the websites.
    2) Be able to select more than one WU at a time you wish to suspend work on or resume work on.

    I'm sure I'll have more ideas.
    Anybody else have ideas?
    Or contrary thoughts to the two I have already listed?

    If we get a good list, how should we bring it to the attention of those who could create/distribute an update?
    9220) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 563468)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Here they are by request


    "The difference between you and me is ... I make this look GOOD!"
    9221) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 563467)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's always a good thing. :-)

    Or it's a ... conspiracy! :)
    9222) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 563454)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Looks like we've got some new posters in this thread. :)
    9223) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UOTD for SETI@HOME IS TL!!!!! (Message 563445)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congrats!
    9224) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Seti has been Tomahawked! for days now (Message 563442)
    Posted 9 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There are other projects too...spread the love for now. Seti will return..it always does


    Yes...but I hope the crunchers do.

    They will.

    If you build the WUs, they will come.
    (Keep on jammin', Dan!)
    9225) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 562993)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Pre-Outage win.
    Rock out with your SETI@home message board connection out!
    9226) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 562762)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder.

    How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;)

    Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder?
    Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider.

    Or, from the other side ... getting limbs blown off in Vietnam and ending up with post-traumatic stress syndrome was the top of the ladder?

    And to be sarcastic ... who worked at the McDonald's' of the time if not the boomers? Infants? Senior citizens?
    9227) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 562760)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder.

    How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;)

    Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder?
    Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider.

    Or, from the other side ... getting limbs blown off in Vietnam and ending up with post-traumatic stress syndrome was the top of the ladder?
    9228) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 562755)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    especially for Gen-Xers that insist on starting somewhere above the bottom of the ladder.

    How about at the top of the ladder where the boomers started? ;)

    Getting stoned for days at Woodstock was the top of the ladder?
    Sorry folks, but that's no flame. It is meant to get Jeffrey to reconsider.
    9229) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Big Brother is here (Message 562730)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, the Gen'X-ers are now well into their 30s and some are close to pushing 40. If you think they're still like that, you must think they still live with their parents or are homeless.
    9230) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562676)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, Eastern Canada was my other guess. So, I think you are an hour ahead of me, meaning you might be in the area of Prince Edward Island. And I have probably asked you all of this before.
    9231) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 562673)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Ha ha ha! When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Ha ha ha!" ("Futurama" episode.)
    9232) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562656)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, if Beethoven can be a girl, and if Nobody can be a girl, maybe Stacey Jane and I ought to get beef-cake dude avatars.
    btw: Who is that in you're avatar Beethoven? She looks familar.

    16:34

    Click on my profile and you'll find out where you've seen her before.

    It's 11:30 pm, according to the Cuckoo Clock that doesn't tell the right time either.


    Huh? I thought you were on the West Coast of Canada, Beets? Or does this have to do with a broken clock?
    9233) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Tornados May 4 2007 (Message 562609)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I had a dream last night, probably between 4 and 5 a.m., that I had been caught outside during a tornado. There was still snow on the ground. I was trying to run for cover. I was out in a street, but there were no ditches around. I ran to one side and held on to some cement or concrete thing you might find in front of some houses or along some streets. Right hand on the upper part and left hand finding a crevice at the bottom to reach in somewhat and grab a little. The dream ended with the funnel being within a few feet of me, to my right, going diagonally across the street (from left to right in my field a view) but right about at the center at the moment.

    One, it is possible I consciously ended my own dream. I seem to have done that a few times in the past 16 years. (Similar to lucid dreaming.)

    Two, I wonder why I dreamed it in the first place? I knew something regarding tornados had happened, but I hadn't had much of a chance to pay a lot of attention.
    9234) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 562606)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    a round of beers for everyone


    She looks like a woman that serves me coffee.
    And she's a huge Bono fan.
    9235) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562605)
    Posted 8 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm a man.
    No doubt about it.
    And my pic has been seen.
    9236) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562507)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Want to get married Beethoven ? (On condition you don't really look like your avitar) :-P

    Dude, Beethoven is a dude.
    9237) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562317)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But what time is it, Beets?
    9238) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562313)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1:31 p.m., haven't been on a train in about 2 weeks (and the schedules were not on the 24 hour system) and the last time on a boat was ... 2003? Took it to Mackinac Island. Been there, KM?
    9239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 562308)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1:23 p.m., working hard, and ignoring military methods of stating time (i.e., 13:23). It's a NAME, not a RANK! ;)
    9240) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 562165)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, I'm quite aware of the representations difficulties, trust me.
    I'll be more specific.
    As part of a project in a math class I taught several years ago, students constructed, and presented in class, a 3-d representation of a hypercube. It's too bad I do not have a picture of it I could post.
    It did not look like the 3-d representations, compressed to 2-d representations, that have been posted here.
    9241) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 562164)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, I'm quite aware of the representations difficulties, trust me.
    I'll be more specific.
    As part of a project in a math class I taught several years ago, students constructed, and presented in class, a 3-d representation of a hypercube. It's too bad I do not have a picture of it I could post.
    It did not look like the 3-d representations, compressed to 2-d representations, that have been posted here.
    9242) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562026)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A rough AltaVista Babel Fish Translation. (Somewhat fixed by myself and Thorin.) This is as good as I am going to make it for now. I need to go to sleep.

    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Where does it belong, in to your opinion, then? Surely not completely [moved] into the play forum! And the general forum is only specific to the PS3 in the German Community except the play forum... Therefore I ask you to unlock this topic again general PS3 forum, or [move it to] its own PS3 specific forum to be put in the Folding@home [topic] also, as well as this to shift this topic.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: Does the blockage of this topic have to do, coincidentally with your interest in Folding@home? I just wanted to post a message with links to other projects, and because of your blockage the entire text that could be directly provided has been lost! I imagine you can tell how annoyed I am about your blockage?

    Why would it make sense for it to have been within the small talk thread?
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    Being in the PS3 range does not mean it should be part of the small talk thread! And since there is a stickied topic in the general PS3 thread also a topic for the Folding@home Community, sees I even completely above no reasonable reason why I cannot also have in this forum a topic for SETI@home! Otherwise also the Folding@home Community topic should not be tolerated in the general PS3 thread, since otherwise am @home project [there] is a one-sided preference.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: I also have the Linux kit for the PS2, if one would talk about SETI@home in the general small talk thread, would have one to it to then always say for which Platform: PS2 or PS3!

    Then one can to it-write it in the thread title.
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    What is going on now? Did you unlock my SETI@home topic? Or did you shift it together with the still open Folding@home topic in the general small talk thread of the entire HP Community? Or will you now close the Folding@home topic for reasons of equal treatment also?
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: What I do not intend to suggest is an one-sided preference of Folding@home, which goes so far that to topics to other @home projects in this forum through blockage is immediately made mute during over Folding@home is [even] more mute continued to discuss!

    I will not unlock it: the first is just searching for aliens; the other is for the good of all humanity, which does not have to do with the PS3. Ergo nothing is lost in the PS3 General Thread. If you would like to take care of it yourself, you can you do it here.
    L.G.
    Silent bass
    9243) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562021)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no idea what the abbreviation L.G. might stand for.

    I can think of one but I would be incorrect in this instance.

    Sie sollten auf Deutsch denken.
    (You should think in German.)

    L.G. stands for Liebe Grüße - something like. "yours..." MfG stands for "Mit freundlichen Grüßen"

    With much friendliness?
    9244) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562017)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A rough AltaVista Babel Fish Translation. (Somewhat fixed by me. Help, Thorin!)

    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Where does it belong, in to your opinion, then? Surely not completely [moved] into the play forum! And the general forum is only specific to the PS3 in the German Community except the play forum... Therefore I ask you to unlock this topic again general PS3 forum, or [move it to] its own PS3 specific forum to be put in the Folding@home [topic] also, as well as this to shift this topic.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: Does the blockage of this topic have to do, coincidentally with your interest in Folding@home? I just wanted to post a message with links to other projects, and because of your blockage the entire text that could be directly provided has been lost! I imagine you can tell how annoyed I am about your blockage?

    Why would it make sense for it to have been within the small talk thread?
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    Being in the PS3 range does not mean it should be part of the small talk thread! And since there is a stickied topic in the general PS3 thread also a topic for the Folding@home Community, sees I even completely above no reasonable reason why I cannot also have in this forum a topic for SETI@home! Otherwise also the Folding@home Community topic should not be tolerated in the general PS3 thread, since otherwise am @home project [there] is a one-sided preference.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: I also have the Linux kit for the PS2, if one would talk about SETI@home in the general small talk thread, would have one to it to then always say for which Platform: PS2 or PS3!

    Then one can to it-write it in the thread title.
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    What is going on now? Did you unlock my SETI@home topic? Or did you shift it together with the still open Folding@home topic in the general small talk thread of the entire HP Community? Or will you now close the Folding@home topic for reasons of equal treatment also?
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: What I do not intend to suggest is an one-sided preference of Folding@home, which goes so far that to topics to other @home projects in this forum through blockage is immediately made mute during over Folding@home is [even] more mute continued to discuss!

    I will not unlock it: the first is just searching for aliens; the other is for the good of all humanity, which does not have to do with the PS3. Ergo nothing is lost in the PS3 General Thread. If you would like to take care of it yourself, you can you do it here.
    L.G.
    Silent bass
    9245) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562013)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no idea what the abbreviation L.G. might stand for.

    I can think of one but I would be incorrect in this instance.

    Sie sollten auf Deutsch denken.
    (You should think in German.)
    9246) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562009)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have no idea what the abbreviation L.G. might stand for.
    9247) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562008)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah. Thank you Thorin. Translation appreciated. :-)
    Sarge, thanks for your effort as well. :-)

    Keep checking for edits.
    I am using what little I remember along with cues from where things break between quotes to try to progressively improve the translation. Perhaps Thorin can add in some help or corrections if I have intuited incorrectly?

    Sure. I'm pleased to help.

    Keep pressing refresh/reload then. :)
    9248) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562004)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ah. Thank you Thorin. Translation appreciated. :-)
    Sarge, thanks for your effort as well. :-)

    Keep checking for edits.
    I am using what little I remember along with cues from where things break between quotes to try to progressively improve the translation. Perhaps Thorin can add in some help or corrections if I have intuited incorrectly?
    9249) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 562000)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A rough AltaVista Babel Fish Translation
    In English:

    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Where does it belong, in to your opinion, then? Surely not completely [moved] into the play forum! And the general forum is only specific to the PS3 in the German Community except the play forum... Therefore I ask you to unlock this topic again general PS3 forum, or [move it to] its own PS3 specific forum to be put in the Folding@home [topic] also, as well as this to shift this topic.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: Does the blockage of this topic have to do, coincidentally with your interest in Folding@home? I wanted a straight message also left to other projects posts, and because of your blockage the entire text that could be directly provided has been lost! I imagine you can tell how annoyed I am about your blockage?

    Why would it make sense for it to have been within the small talk thread?
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    Being in the PS3 range does not mean it should be part of the small talk thread! And there generally PS3 range also a topic for the Folding@home Community angepinnt is, sees I even completely above no reasonable reason why I cannot also have in this forum a topic for SETI@home! Otherwise also the Folding@home Community topic not generally PS3 range should be tolerated, since otherwise a @home project is preferred on one side.
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: I also have the Linux kit for the PS2, if one would talk about SETI@home in the general small talk thread, would have one to it to then always say for which Platform: PS2 or PS3!

    Then one can to it-write it in the thread title.
    L.G.
    Silent bass

    What is going on now? Did you unlock my SETI@home topic? Or did you shift it together with the still open Folding@home topic in the general small talk thread of the entire HP Community? Or did you now close the Folding@home topic for reasons of equal treatment also?
    MfG, MEX
    P.S.: What I do not intend to suggest is an inside preference of Folding@home, which goes so far that to topics to other @home projects in this forum through blockage is immediately made mute during over Folding@home is [even] more mute continued to discuss!

    I will not unlock it: one is for the good of all humanity; the other one is just searching for aliens, which does not have to do with the PS3. Ergo nothing is lost in the PS3 General Thread. If you would like to take care of it yourself, you can you do it here.
    L.G.
    Silent bass
    9250) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home for PS3 ? ! (Message 561996)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    A rough AltaVista Babel Fish Translation
    In English:

    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Silent bass wrote:
    MEX wrote:
    Where does it belong in to your opinion then? Into the play forum completely surely not! And the general forum is the only specific to the PS3 in the German Community except the play forum... Therefore I ask to unlock you this topic again generally PS3 forum, or its own PS3 specific forum to be put on in also the Folding@home, as well as this topic be shifted. MfG, MEX HP: The blockage of this topic has to do not coincidentally with your interest in Folding@home? I wanted a straight message also left to other projects posts, and because of your blockage the entire straight provided text with all left lost! I take on you can probe as annoy I about your blockage am? How would it have been with the Smalltalkbereich? L.G. Silent bass In the PS3 range does not give it to Smalltalkbereich! And there generally PS3 range also a topic for the Folding@home Community angepinnt is, sees I even completely above no reasonable reason why I not also in this forum a topic for SETI@home having may! Otherwise also the Folding@home Community topic not generally PS3 range should be tolerated, since otherwise a @home project is preferred on one side. MfG, MEX HP: I have also the Linux kit for the PS2, if one generally Smalltalk range would talk about SETI@home, would have one to it to then always say for which Platform: PS2 or PS3! Then one can to it-write it in the Threadtitel. L.G. Silent bass What is now? Do you unlock my SETI@home topic? Or do you shift it together with the still open Folding@home topic in the general Smalltalk range of entire HP of Community? Or do you close the Folding@home topic now for reasons of equal treatment also? MfG, MEX HP: Which I do not add intend is an in side preference of Folding@home, which goes so far that to topics to other @home projects in this forum through blockage is immediately made mouth dead during over Folding@home is more muter continued to discuss! I will not unlock it one am an official history those mankind good to do am, the other one am AU?ERIRDI, which has to do not with the PS3. Ergo lost it in the PS3Allgemeinbereich nothing. if you to weight would like can you this here do. L.G. Silent bass
    9251) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561990)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there any business man fighting directly at the front first line? Any polician? Does anyone of them send their sons (or even daughters) there? No. Not even one.

    Wrong. Among others, John McCain's son is serving in Iraq. You may not be aware of this, but Mr. McCain is one of the senators from the state of Arizona and has announced that he is running for the office of President. There are others, it's not hard to find out who they are.

    Next time, check your facts before ranting on assumptions.

    Beat you to it, Bill.
    But I think I said it a bit more nicely. :)
    9252) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561978)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is there any business man fighting directly at the front first line? Any polician? Does anyone of them send their sons (or even daughters) there? No. Not even one.

    I suppose that rules out one of the princes from England, too, except that he actually is in Iraq.
    (Otherwise, I'm not indicating which side I am on in the overall debate here. I prefer to make others re-think some of their "facts." ;) [That's a Jeffrey-type wink!])
    9253) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Science, money, humans (Message 561975)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe you haven't noticed... Morality has already been lost, the bullies have won by force...

    Thorin seems perfectly happy to use force. He IS one of the bullies.

    Congrats on your victory... In the end, there will be hell to pay...

    You'll have to use force to get someone else to pay that too. Because I certainly won't.

    Is not also in the States that saying: "The end justifies the means"? I mean, GWB spends thousands of Billions on tax money to give other people democracy. Just one percent off that budget, taken for the welfare of the Americans, could be not that bad, could it?

    The phrase is attributed to Machiavelli, of Italy. From what century, I do not recall, but I'd be willing to guess a few hundred years before the U.S.A. was recognized as a sovereign country.
    9254) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#31 - POETS Day is THREAD CLOSED DAY! (Message 561972)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think people should check out Dan's performance of his original song, "That's So Beautiful." Nicely done, Dan. I'm wondering if you do any Pink Floyd covers as well?
    9255) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 561914)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess he hasn't clicked the link since I replaced the video. I didn't know sasquach was so talented.

    That is the video that was available at the time I quoted your link (and then removed that is was a quote).

    Yeah but there are a lot more than that one video on youtube.

    400th POST! lol

    But that was the one you linked to. I thought a good conspiracy would be to make people see it again.

    At one point in time I had all of them posted. You'll have to look back at the older threads.

    I believe I saw most to all of them several months ago. Not going to take the time right now to search the old threads.
    9256) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 561819)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    U2 - Lemon
    9257) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 561817)
    Posted 7 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alice in Chains - Would?
    Alice in Chains - Nutshell (w/ a few seconds of weird junk before the actual video starts)
    Staind - Layne
    9258) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 561662)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, I guess it finally updated itself and started alternating. It was crunching an Einstein WU for a while, and now it has started a climate prediction WU. I suspect when I look again in a few hours it will be working on something from another project.
    9259) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 561661)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess he hasn't clicked the link since I replaced the video. I didn't know sasquach was so talented.

    That is the video that was available at the time I quoted your link (and then removed that is was a quote).

    Yeah but there are a lot more than that one video on youtube.

    400th POST! lol

    But that was the one you linked to. I thought a good conspiracy would be to make people see it again.
    9260) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 561641)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess he hasn't clicked the link since I replaced the video. I didn't know sasquach was so talented.

    That is the video that was available at the time I quoted your link (and then removed that is was a quote).
    9261) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 561592)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Skip the graphics dude. It ain't gonna work.
    Instead start with constructing the two cubes in your head and then insert the interconnections. The result looks rather nice. When you have gotten the hang of it insert a singularity in the middle with an evenspread anti-singularity that is covering the entire outside of the tesseract. Than you will have a slowly tumbling tesseract that is getting swallowed up and "reborn" on the outside.
    What you are seeing is a calabi-yau room, or as it is also called, a fourdimensional quantum singularity.
    I promise it is well worth the time!

    What I have been trying to get at is why most of the pictures provided, except the one I linked from here to mathworld.com, do not look like what I saw 12 years ago or so. Either one is wrong or they are isomorphic to each other.
    What I am thinking is that what I saw follows nicely from a progression:
    1) Start with a point.
    2) Determine an arbitrary distance, make a copy of the point and place it that distance away. Connect the points with a line segment.
    3) Copy the line segment, set it parallel to the first line segment, and the distance between the two line segments is the same as the distance between the two points. Connect the two line segments with two more line segments. A square is formed.
    4) Now we get into where Akhentaton's first picture comes in. Copy the square, place the copy in a parallel plane to the one the first square lies in and so that the distance between the two squares is the same distance as between the first two points. Connect corresponding vertices with line segments (a total of four) to form a cube.
    5) Finally, we get to where there may be a discrepancy. When we copy the cube,
    set it in a hyperplane (I think that is the term) parallel to the hyperplane the first cube is in and so that the distance between the two cubes is the same as the distance between the first two points and at last connect corresponding vertices with line segments (a total of 8) to form the hypercube/tesseract, then does it look like what is shown in the link to mathworld I provided or like that other things shown or linked to in this thread? Or, are they isomorphic?
    9262) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 561585)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Let me try to reflect back to you what you said, Ice, to be sure I have followed correctly. What it all boils down to is that I will have to change the preferences on every single project I am attached to?
    If that's the case, then among us let me say that sounds very inefficient. Why doesn't the BOINC manager have a tab or drop-down from the menu so we can do it all for all projects from one place?
    9263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SKYPE (Message 561555)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    For a good time call pawly_canuck

    For a boring time call demiurg2

    My handle and SkypeIn number are unlisted. :)
    9264) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561138)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The plan is....

    cunning?
    Sure. Hehe, got it! 1000th post!

    And this was the 1000th post, so Jeremy wins!
    9265) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561136)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The plan is....

    cunning?
    Sure

    Sure Deodorant?
    9266) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561130)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The plan is....

    cunning?
    (I love it when a plan comes together.)
    9267) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561127)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ROFLMAO

    Smile!
    9268) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561125)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!

    Ahhh..... I see i can score some points here! ....Great!

    Yes. They can be traded in for real Euros! :)

    Other intellegent life needs to share in the wonder that Guinness can provide.
    A fue pints of stout down in the pub will definatly turn the Alien's GREEN if there not green already.

    Good stuff, John!
    How about Killian's?

    Its a ritual, i habitually drink Guinness!

    Caught ya before you edited out the spelling error! :)

    You pup Sarge, you caught me

    Rut roh, Raggy!
    9269) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561123)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!

    Ahhh..... I see i can score some points here! ....Great!

    Yes. They can be traded in for real Euros! :)

    Other intellegent life needs to share in the wonder that Guinness can provide.
    A fue pints of stout down in the pub will definatly turn the Alien's GREEN if there not green already.

    Good stuff, John!
    How about Killian's?

    Its a ritual, i habitually drink Guinness!

    Caught ya before you edited out the spelling error! :)
    9270) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561122)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!

    Ahhh..... I see i can score some points here! ....Great!

    Yes. They can be traded in for real Euros! :)

    Other intellegent life needs to share in the wonder that Guinness can provide.
    A fue pints of stout down in the pub will definatly turn the Alien's GREEN if there not green already.

    Good stuff, John!
    How about Killian's?

    Its a ritual, i habitually dring Guinness!

    OIC.
    9271) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561120)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Message from John Clark:
    The winner of TLPTPW#30
    is
    SARGE

    Now get competing for the past post before the outrage!
    9272) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561117)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!

    Ahhh..... I see i can score some points here! ....Great!

    Yes. They can be traded in for real Euros! :)

    Other intellegent life needs to share in the wonder that Guinness can provide.
    A fue pints of stout down in the pub will definatly turn the Alien's GREEN if there not green already.

    Good stuff, John!
    How about Killian's?
    9273) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561113)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!

    Ahhh..... I see i can score some points here! ....Great!

    Yes. They can be traded in for real Euros! :)
    9274) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561110)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Morning, Jeremy!

    980!
    9275) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 561109)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's what I thought, processor usage.
    It's set for 60 minutes.
    Maybe it is only controlling my office computer.
    The laptop hasn't run BOINC in nearly a year, until a few days ago.

    EDIT: office computer only runs SETI.

    I seem to have had no differences in what is worked on since I made the changes to the preferences last night. It just keeps going on the big Einstein unit right now.
    9276) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561104)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good day all

    Morning, Jeremy!
    9277) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561102)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning again!
    9278) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home ADDICTION. The Setiholic! (Message 561091)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post #50!

    Sarge, only a pure Addict wound have posted that!...Now Get a Grip Man!

    Come over here, John!

    I'm scared Sarge. Is there bad things there?

    Nah!
    Try to be the last person to post! You might win!
    9279) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home ADDICTION. The Setiholic! (Message 561089)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post #50!

    Sarge, only a pure Addict wound have posted that!...Now Get a Grip Man!

    Come over here, John!
    9280) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home ADDICTION. The Setiholic! (Message 561088)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post #50!

    Sarge, only a pure Addict wound have posted that!...Now Get a Grip Man!

    I was just parodying Misfit. :)
    9281) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561083)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    9282) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561081)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9283) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561080)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9284) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561079)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9285) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561077)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9286) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561076)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9287) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561075)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9288) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561072)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9289) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561071)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    9290) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561069)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're

    aiming

    for

    1000

    posts,

    right?
    9291) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561068)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're

    aiming

    for

    1000

    posts,
    9292) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561067)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're

    aiming

    for

    1000
    9293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561066)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're

    aiming

    for
    9294) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561065)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're

    aiming
    9295) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561064)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...

    We're
    9296) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561063)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John

    Clark ...
    9297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561061)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So

    John
    9298) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561060)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So
    9299) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 561057)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Anyone have any 'Rush' videos?

    9300) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561056)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9301) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561046)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9302) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 561013)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    It's not helpful for me because I do not see two clearly resolvable cubes in there.


    Hit "Stereo" twice. You should get two tesseracts side by side.

    Not what I want to see.
    I want to see the two cubes separately, and then how they are connected to form the tesseract.
    In fact, what I see is not even two cubes apparently.
    9303) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561012)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    You're getting very good at this.

    Wanna prize?

    How about a cookie?

    Or perhaps ...

    ... a vegamine sandwich?
    9304) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561011)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    You're getting very good at this.

    Wanna prize?

    How about a cookie?

    Or perhaps ...
    9305) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561010)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    You're getting very good at this.

    Wanna prize?

    How about a cookie?
    9306) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561009)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    You're getting very good at this.

    Wanna prize?
    9307) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561008)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .

    You're getting very good at this.
    9308) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561005)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of dots

    .
    9309) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561004)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Don't worry, she'll be back, and then you can stop typing dots.
    9310) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 561002)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And so it starts again.
    LOL!
    9311) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SETI@home ADDICTION. The Setiholic! (Message 560999)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post #50!
    9312) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560997)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Post #915
    9313) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560996)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ID: 230276
    9314) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560995)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ..

    ...

    :-)
    9315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560994)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ..

    ...
    9316) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560992)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, very nice.
    9317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560987)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    C'mon, UK folks, wake up and put this guy out of his misery!
    9318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560984)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Getting better.
    9319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560980)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow.
    9320) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 560979)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Dream Theater - Learning to Live.
    9321) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560977)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uh huh?
    9322) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560973)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's for the Proctor & Gamble thread.
    9323) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560970)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning.
    9324) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560933)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I didn't see your laptop in the list and the owner's manual states that you should only use it on laptops that are on the list. It's not a complete list but before you spend that much money, I'd ask if your's is on the list.

    BTW, you can get a second battery for your laptop from HP for $130. A 12 cell lithium, an 8 cell is the standard. And you can probably get them cheaper elsewhere.

    Only $130? But how quick is delivery?!?
    You're right, it is an incomplete list and my does not show on what they have listed. I am thinking of asking, but first wanted to know what ppl knew about them in general first.
    9325) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560931)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, but it kills your average.

    I am referring to the length of a win.
    9326) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560925)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've been winning for nearly an hour!
    (Does RichaG's stats cover two posts in a row from one person?)
    9327) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560919)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know what you're talking about, but I think you'd be better off just getting a second battery for your laptop.

    Some laptops have a special battery that you can put in place of the CD/DVD drive. What is your laptop?


    HP zv5434rs. The cost of this external is really nice, though, if reliable!

    I don't know for sure, but I would bet that it wouldn't last very long on the external. Check your AC adapter for the wattage/amperage and compare it to the external power pack.

    That may indeed be an issue. 75 watts versus 90 watts or something like that.
    Then again, I've been on the road so much lately, I need something to run this a few hours at a time when no plug is available.

    Although it might run a laptop for a while, I think those devices are mainly for recharging phones, portable games, etc.

    This one is specifically for laptops.

    http://www.cellboost.com/product_laptop.htm.
    9328) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560917)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know what you're talking about, but I think you'd be better off just getting a second battery for your laptop.

    Some laptops have a special battery that you can put in place of the CD/DVD drive. What is your laptop?


    HP zv5434rs. The cost of this external is really nice, though, if reliable!

    I don't know for sure, but I would bet that it wouldn't last very long on the external. Check your AC adapter for the wattage/amperage and compare it to the external power pack.

    That may indeed be an issue. 75 watts versus 90 watts or something like that.
    Then again, I've been on the road so much lately, I need something to run this a few hours at a time when no plug is available.

    Although it might run a laptop for a while, I think those devices are mainly for recharging phones, portable games, etc.

    This one is specifically for laptops.
    9329) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560912)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know what you're talking about, but I think you'd be better off just getting a second battery for your laptop.

    Some laptops have a special battery that you can put in place of the CD/DVD drive. What is your laptop?


    HP zv5434rs. The cost of this external is really nice, though, if reliable!

    I don't know for sure, but I would bet that it wouldn't last very long on the external. Check your AC adapter for the wattage/amperage and compare it to the external power pack.

    That may indeed be an issue. 75 watts versus 90 watts or something like that.
    Then again, I've been on the road so much lately, I need something to run this a few hours at a time when no plug is available.
    9330) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560910)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I know what you're talking about, but I think you'd be better off just getting a second battery for your laptop.

    Some laptops have a special battery that you can put in place of the CD/DVD drive. What is your laptop?


    HP zv5434rs. The cost of this external is really nice, though, if reliable!
    9331) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560908)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That's what I thought, processor usage.
    It's set for 60 minutes.
    Maybe it is only controlling my office computer.
    The laptop hasn't run BOINC in nearly a year, until a few days ago.

    EDIT: office computer only runs SETI.
    9332) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560905)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Changing thread title.
    9333) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560903)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, did John ever explain what protaferous means? I'm going to start losing sleep.

    It means Misfit wins!

    I doubt it.

    Ditto! :)
    9334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560902)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Processor usage
    Disk and memory usage
    Network usage

    ...

    I assume it is under the first?
    9335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560899)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I was looking for it on the BOINC manager itself.
    9336) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560889)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    5:30 in the morning - time for a nap
    see ya folks!

    Night, Thorin.
    9337) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560888)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I have 13 projects. Projects tab of BOINC manager says each is at 7.69% of resources shared, which makes sense for equal distribution. But it tackles one thing at a time based on the closest due date, it looks like. But, I can no longer see where to manage my preferences, to make it do something like switch between projects every few hours or whatever.
    9338) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560881)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen one (a re-chargeable laptop battery)?

    I thought all laptop batteries were rechargeable... ;)

    OK, how to rephrase this ... ?
    What I saw yesterday was a battery for multiple brands and models.
    Furthermore, when you wire your laptop to this battery, it will think it is plugged into a wall (supposedly) until the battery is drained and needs recharging.
    Is this additional description helping in understanding?
    EDIT: this thing is external.
    9339) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560876)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, then remind me: is it possible to set the preferences so it does a little on one thing, then a little on something else, round and round and so on? I don't have hyper-threading on this laptop, so it is only going to work on one WU at a time.
    9340) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560847)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think i'll just sit here and drink.

    What are you having, how was "Women's Day Out" (that was today, right?)?
    And, Thorin, what is Mandriva?

    Woman's Day out turned out to be a crowd of mostly older women...But they were a very nice group and i had a good time...It was kind of a festival atmosphere downtown...with a Farmer's Market...a flea market...and a country band playing...I'd been up since 4:30am...having to do my regular stuff...then go downtown for the remote...By the time i got home at about 2pm i was very tired.
    (drinking Diet Coke)

    This sounds somewhat like January, 1996, when a friend dragged me to see the Goo Goo Dolls. I'd been up since 6 a.m., taught, then headed to Syracuse to see the Buffalo boys play. I only knew one or two of their songs. I fell asleep in the club while they played. LOL. (And it was LOUD!)

    Every time i go somewhere it's always after work...So i know the feeling of exhaustion too well...Makes me sleepy just thinking about it.

    While working as a research assistant and on the dissertation, I have very little in the way of a set schedule. So, I can only look to my memories to empathize.
    9341) Message boards : Cafe SETI : EXTERNAL Re-chargeable laptop batteries (Message 560843)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Has anyone seen one (a re-chargeable laptop battery)? Used one?
    I saw one for sale yesterday, at $99.
    If I remember correctly, it's called iCharge or iReCharge.
    The website, I think, is http://www.cellboost.com.
    I'd like to know if these things are reliable.
    9342) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560836)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think i'll just sit here and drink.

    What are you having, how was "Women's Day Out" (that was today, right?)?
    And, Thorin, what is Mandriva?

    Woman's Day out turned out to be a crowd of mostly older women...But they were a very nice group and i had a good time...It was kind of a festival atmosphere downtown...with a Farmer's Market...a flea market...and a country band playing...I'd been up since 4:30am...having to do my regular stuff...then go downtown for the remote...By the time i got home at about 2pm i was very tired.
    (drinking Diet Coke)

    This sounds somewhat like January, 1996, when a friend dragged me to see the Goo Goo Dolls. I'd been up since 6 a.m., taught, then headed to Syracuse to see the Buffalo boys play. I only knew one or two of their songs. I fell asleep in the club while they played. LOL. (And it was LOUD!)
    9343) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560830)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think i'll just sit here and drink.

    What are you having, how was "Women's Day Out" (that was today, right?)?
    And, Thorin, what is Mandriva?

    Woman's Day out turned out to be a crowd of mostly older women...But they were a very nice group and i had a good time...It was kind of a festival atmosphere downtown...with a Farmer's Market...a flea market...and a country band playing...I'd been up since 4:30am...having to do my regular stuff...then go downtown for the remote...By the time i got home at about 2pm i was very tired.
    (drinking Diet Coke)

    This sounds somewhat like January, 1996, when a friend dragged me to see the Goo Goo Dolls. I'd been up since 6 a.m., taught, then headed to Syracuse to see the Buffalo boys play. I only knew one or two of their songs. I fell asleep in the club while they played. LOL. (And it was LOUD!)
    9344) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560809)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think i'll just sit here and drink.

    What are you having, how was "Women's Day Out" (that was today, right?)?
    And, Thorin, what is Mandriva?
    9345) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560778)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Oh! Canada!
    This was the closest to there I've ever been:
    http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n212/eighthdwarf2006/Scannen0003.jpg

    I'm trying to remember which side of the Falls that would mean you were on.

    I was in Niagara Falls (US side) :)

    And that's what I was getting at, US or Canadian side. It's been some time since I've been there.

    Well, it's been a while for me, too. 13 years, to be exactly.
    I was much younger then, and some things were better...

    That means when you were in NY, I was still living in NY State.
    People often tell me I look completely different in every single picture (even if from only 3-4 months apart), and it seems that applies to you as well.
    9346) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560775)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winking, while watching my pratoferous!
    Look at that! A good number to land on
    850

    You and your pratoferous.

    I remember becoming a prat quite a few times as I grew up.
    The oferous is a variation of the creatures in a South Park episode, who got on everyone's wicks. In the end they were made to win a competition with a first prize of a trip to France.
    Now I am winning

    I thought they were trying to get to Canada to see a Terence and whoseywhatsey.

    Oh! Canada!
    This was the closest to there I've ever been:
    http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n212/eighthdwarf2006/Scannen0003.jpg

    I'm trying to remember which side of the Falls that would mean you were on.

    I was in Niagara Falls (US side) :)

    And that's what I was getting at, US or Canadian side. It's been some time since I've been there.
    9347) Message boards : Cafe SETI : climateprediction.net (Message 560774)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, I finally attached this project.
    A workunit downloaded immediately.
    It is due 4/17/2008. It will take 2671 hours 10 minutes and 50 seconds to complete.
    What in the world?!?
    Anyone else seeing something like this?
    BTW: Jeremy, did I see elsewhere that you had/have an Einstein work unit stating a 70 to 80 hour range for the time to completion?
    9348) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560767)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winking, while watching my pratoferous!
    Look at that! A good number to land on
    850

    You and your pratoferous.

    I remember becoming a prat quite a few times as I grew up.
    The oferous is a variation of the creatures in a South Park episode, who got on everyone's wicks. In the end they were made to win a competition with a first prize of a trip to France.
    Now I am winning

    I thought they were trying to get to Canada to see a Terence and whoseywhatsey.

    Oh! Canada!
    This was the closest to there I've ever been:

    I'm trying to remember which side of the Falls that would mean you were on.
    9349) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SKYPE (Message 560765)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I guess no one else is experiencing the problems with the dial-pad.
    How about problems with the Skype Toolbar? If you have it, you can just click on phone numbers showing on web pages and Skype will dial the number. However, the toolbar is incompatible with Yahoo! Mail Beta (or was up until about a month ago). I hope Yahoo! or Skype works that out, because it is a handy feature!
    9350) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560760)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winking, while watching my pratoferous!
    Look at that! A good number to land on
    850

    You and your pratoferous.

    I remember becoming a prat quite a few times as I grew up.
    The oferous is a variation of the creatures in a South Park episode, who got on everyone's wicks. In the end they were made to win a competition with a first prize of a trip to France.
    Now I am winning

    I thought they were trying to get to Canada to see a Terence and whoseywhatsey.
    9351) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Trying to quit smoking......after 25 years..... (Message 560758)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    But, it even happened that when I was lacking money and had too little tobacco for the day, I put some black tea to it to fill the portion up: it tasted terrible and made me dizzy and gave me a sour throat, but I had enough to smoke

    Now that's desperation for a smoke!
    BTW, it's sore, not sour. :)
    Aber remember, ich habe viele Deutsch vergessen.
    9352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560754)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is most unlike you.

    Maybe tonight I'm not like myself... Could be the lacking sleep...

    Could be.
    9353) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Trying to quit smoking......after 25 years..... (Message 560745)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the late '90's, I tried the gums. It made me nauseous. A strong taste of pepper.

    You shouldn't have smoked them

    Now, that's just crazy!
    9354) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560744)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the bottom.
    Back on top!

    Bottom, top? Are you doing */*, guys?
    Here it's another kind of games, so change topics please ;)
    Btw: I win

    That could get you modded.

    Are you sure? Oh. I thought there are not so many people out there knowing this abbreviation...

    Just because people aren't involved in it does not know they do not know what it means. But, what you're saying is you thought you could get away with using it because you figured most were ignorant of what it meant? I am surprised at you! ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink!)

    Uh... er... Nope :D

    LOL!
    This is most unlike you.
    9355) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560740)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it safe to venture in here again?

    No. ;)
    9356) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 560734)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ;) (Jeffrey-type winks!)
    Now THAT's a conspiracy!!!
    9357) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 560733)
    Posted 6 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    As always, this is the place for some alternative views on things like UFO's, Bigfoot and other such things.

    Those aren't the only subjects allowed here, as anyone who has posted of viewed the previous versions of this thread can attest to.

    I usually just let the thread wander around where ever people want it to go, and it usually finds it's way back to it's base.

    Once again....thanks to everyone who makes the continuation of this thread necessary.

    Enjoy, everyone! Have fun. :-)

    Knightmare

    This is a continuation of Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 8 )

    The only subject not allowed is: videos of Bigfoot that are linked to food commercials! ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink!)
    9358) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 560732)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'd still like to know why we are wearing these black avatars in protest...now THAT is a mystery in need of explantions....


    Ummmm...isn't a protest kinda pointless if you don't know what it is that you are protesting?? lol

    I make points with humor now and then.....you know me. :-)

    I object to objective humor!
    Now THAT's a conspiracy!
    9359) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560713)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the bottom.
    Back on top!

    Bottom, top? Are you doing */*, guys?
    Here it's another kind of games, so change topics please ;)
    Btw: I win

    That could get you modded.

    Are you sure? Oh. I thought there are not so many people out there knowing this abbreviation...

    Just because people aren't involved in it does not know they do not know what it means. But, what you're saying is you thought you could get away with using it because you figured most were ignorant of what it meant? I am surprised at you! ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink!)
    9360) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560704)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win.
    9361) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560700)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the bottom.
    Back on top!

    Bottom, top? Are you doing ***, guys?
    Here it's another kind of games, so change topics please ;)
    Btw: I win

    That could get you modded.

    Oh, btw, I win.
    9362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560698)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back to the bottom.
    Back on top!

    Bottom, top? Are you doing ***, guys?
    Here it's another kind of games, so change topics please ;)
    Btw: I win

    That could get you modded.
    9363) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560691)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Back on top!

    Winning.
    9364) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560622)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You have to be extra supra special like me to have her mod you.... :-P



    Fuzzy, I know you have a crush on me, but why don't you moderate me from time to time, lol?!? ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink!)


    Or so nice that she reads all your posts - and sees when there is a double post or a wrong quotation ;D

    lol
    9365) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560601)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Prato

    Yes, I think you've got it Stacey.
    Iron made in Italy!

    Next topic.

    Okay, how about white water rafting? Esprit Rafting on the Kipawa Anybody in for June?

    That sounds sooo kewl!
    Unfortunately I won't be able to go there

    But you could be winning, unless you take a laptop and have a wireless internet connection.
    9366) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560599)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi SJ, Sarge , Dune....

    Hi, we were just talking about you. Poot!

    Oh My! I just came back from a shoot, The food was great and lots of beans too....
    MMMMMMM POOT!

    Franks and beans?
    9367) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe....Closed (Message 560598)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Didn't there used to be a whole thread about milking on this board?

    Shhh ... you'll bring the return of the ghost of BSR!
    9368) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560595)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Fuzzy, I know you have a crush on me, but why don't you moderate me from time to time, lol?!? ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink!)
    9369) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560591)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi SJ, Sarge , Dune....

    C/A! It's pootin' time!
    9370) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560590)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "He" is you, silly.

    "He" knew that silly.

    ha ha, now you're talking about yourself in third person ... sign of dimensia

    4th-dimensional dementia?
    9371) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560580)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thank you, but in that case isn't ferous spelled wrong? Should be ferrous.


    ferous

    OK, ferriferous = bearing iron

    But that's not our word. Talk about how to keep blonds busy for hours. lol

    pratoferous is our word.

    bearing the Prato? or the weight?



    Being the center ...

    ... of attention.
    9372) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560578)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Prato

    Yes, I think you've got it Stacey.
    Iron made in Italy!

    Next topic.

    Okay, how about white water rafting? Esprit Rafting on the Kipawa Anybody in for June?


    I wonder if the roots of Chippewa and Kipawa are the same/similar?
    9373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560574)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thank you, but in that case isn't ferous spelled wrong? Should be ferrous.


    ferous

    OK, ferriferous = bearing iron

    But that's not our word. Talk about how to keep blonds busy for hours. lol

    pratoferous is our word.

    bearing the Prato? or the weight?



    Being the center.
    9374) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560569)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Prato

    Notice how many times center or central is mentioned.
    I believe you may even find Prato is in central Italy.
    9375) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560565)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like odoriferous, thinking of CA.

    C/A is a lovable man, just poots a little too often.

    ha ha, pooting was exactly my point, odoriferous ... you'll have to look it up

    Odoriferous was precisely why I mentioned pooting.
    9376) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560559)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I like odoriferous, thinking of CA.

    C/A is a lovable man, just poots a little too often. Be nice to him. Speak sweet-nothings in his ear!
    9377) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560554)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Thank you, but in that case isn't ferous spelled wrong? Should be ferrous.


    ferous


    Or, -ferous (suffix).
    9378) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560545)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does anyone know what a funny pratoferous is? JC?

    How to keep blondes busy for hours ... make up a word and call their friends names with it. hee hee hee.

    Well JC comes up with these big words. Sometimes I can look 'em up. Sometimes I already know 'em. But this has me stumped. Yeah, I'm blond.

    I've tried a dictionary, encyclopedia dictionary and Wikipedia ... no dice. He either made up the word or mispelled it. I don't know.



    prato ferous

    I'm still not getting it. Can you spell it out for me? Maybe draw me a diagram?



    < ----------------------------- proCEEd to thE hEad of thE class Stacey ;O

    Central
    Magnet
    Producing (productive in discussions?)
    9379) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560529)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning again.
    9380) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Trying to quit smoking......after 25 years..... (Message 560526)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In the late '90's, I tried the gums. It made me nauseous. A strong taste of pepper.
    9381) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560509)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win.
    9382) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560506)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Official Moderator notice...

    This thread is like my email's spam folder. One delete command and all the spam disappears. Both have a lot of nonsense from a lot of people. But if this thread turns into another Flame thread it will be deleted just as easily. The moderators will not be busying themselves out by going through several hundred posts to remove a few flames here and there.

    P.S. I win.


    I'll take the Vanilla Ice cream, leave out the sardine, take the pudding (how can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?) and Tea? Earl Grey, iced, with a little sugar for sweetening, please!
    P.S. I win.
    9383) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560405)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I've just been intelligently Sarged off the podium!

    Don't worry, John, I need to leave soon and work on the dissertation.
    As if ppl need to worry about putting me on ignore! Ha!
    9384) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560400)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nah, what a lame-o 58 year old already married man. LOL! ;) (That's Jeffrey-type wink.)

    Mods, correct this man. I'm 57.

    Maybe, if everyone ignored him, he would just go away. Some people are just looking for a fight, even if we weren't even talking to him.

    No, your Fune Dinkleberry friend was one of the people that started it, making unjust accusations.
    9385) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560398)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WINNING WHILE STAYING DIPLOMATICALLY SCILENT


    John, you had the dignity and intelligence to not jump in on things before. I see you maintain this dignity and intelligence, while others could learn from you. :)
    9386) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560395)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While everyone appears to be sleeping or otherwise occupied, I will be winning.




    http://www.un-official.com/Truman/TrumanShow.html!
    9387) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560388)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    While everyone appears to be sleeping or otherwise occupied, I will be winning.


    9388) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560386)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "In case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening and good night!"

    (Click the link! ;) )
    9389) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560381)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    <=== Winning while being nice?
    9390) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560378)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "In case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening and good night!"
    9391) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560361)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    Yup, I think you're right.

    Do you prefer sweet nothings or real substance?

    Start out with real substance and then move into sweet nothings once you've totally fallen for me.


    I guess Dune is going straight to sweet nothings, I guess he's already fallen for me. Awwww, what a sweety. :D

    Nah, what a lame-o 58 year old already married man. LOL! ;) (That's Jeffrey-type wink.)
    9392) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Women only - An open letter to Proctor and Gamble (Message 560360)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you ever wondered...

    About twelve years ago I got a big box in my mailbox. When I opened it I found a letter stating;
    "Dear Carl, you and 999 other persons have been selected to try out a new product for Proctor & Gamble, the brand new Always Ultra+ with wingsTM. For you troubles we will reimburse you with a years supply of schampoo."

    So for a couple of days I tested the Ultras with wings and then I filled out the questionnaire. Everything went well untill the last question, "Any further comments?" And there I dutifully filled in what I saw as the largest flaw in their design. "Your product does not suck up the ****-perspiration well enough, thusly creating a keapt in odour in my pants."

    A few weeks later I recieved another box containing 40 cans of schampoo for frail hair and a letter. "We are happy about your comments, we are changing the modell according to your suggestions."

    So now you know that Always is made to suck up ****-juice for men and not menstruation-blood from women.

    I still have the schampoo since I am bald as a bat and has been so since I was twenty.

    Carl


    Don't be surprised if you get modded.
    9393) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Women only - An open letter to Proctor and Gamble (Message 560359)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, funny thing, I believe it's Knut (without an "e") ... hee hee, now this all over again. :D

    The Cute Knut

    Nice one dune.

    Nope, I am the one that mentioned Knut.
    9394) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560283)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    Yup, I think you're right.

    Do you prefer sweet nothings or real substance?

    Start out with real substance and then move into sweet nothings once you've totally fallen for me.

    Nah, you have to keep a fair amount of real substance.
    9395) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 560008)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    Yup, I think you're right.


    You cant <=== beat me...Or Misfit....

    9396) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559999)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    Yup, I think you're right.

    Do you prefer sweet nothings or real substance?

    Misfit is better at sweet nothings, lol! ;) (That's a Jeffrey-type wink.)
    9397) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559996)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    IMO Anyone who remembers the 70s wasn't there. ;-)


    Nice thing to say to the folks who were kids at the time.
    9398) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559980)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    Yup, I think you're right.

    LOL! Good luck with that!
    9399) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559974)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time to be last.

    Time for you to sleep.


    "Yes, but, if I make a supposition, Doctor, it was not meant as an indication of fatigue, but to suggest a course of action."
    9400) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559963)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.

    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    That you should be talking to me instead.

    No, he's the worst to talk to! LOL!
    9401) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559942)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Finkleberry, Finkleberry, Finkleberry ... I can't stop speaking it out loud. Fun, fun. Cheers to beers.

    Gad, I finally get to talk but can't. Hopefully see you (smiling?) face tomorrow.

    Okay, have a good one. Talk to you after.

    Oooh, now who will SJ talk to?
    9402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559939)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Finkleberry, Finkleberry, Finkleberry ... I can't stop speaking it out loud. Fun, fun. Cheers to beers.

    Gad, I finally get to talk but can't. Hopefully see you (smiling?) face tomorrow.


    Mrs. Dune put tape over his mouth! :)
    9403) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559936)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one can prove Labbie is single.

    I can. My ex (if you can find her) can. The IRS can too.


    Prove you have an ex.
    Prove she can or cannot be found.
    Prove there is an IRS.


    Scroll down just past halfway.

    I leave the final two proofs to the teacher.

    Are you Rick?


    No, Buga is Rick.
    9404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 559930)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The legend of Sasquatch.
    9405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559919)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.


    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    Women talk too much! :P

    Very tactful.

    Yep!
    I tell ya, I'm glad my last g/f broke up with me.
    It was all ... like, I got up at 7 a.m., took the kids to school, did shopping, laundry, argued with my ex-husband at 7 p.m.
    Man, how many times did I need to hear THAT?!
    9406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Myths, Legends, Conspiracies ( 9 ) - CLOSED (Message 559917)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning!
    Now THAT's a conspiracy!
    9407) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559915)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.


    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.

    What are you trying to say?

    Women talk too much! :P
    9408) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Women only - An open letter to Proctor and Gamble (Message 559908)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I personally thought the messages that say "Have a Happy Period" were somewhat amusing. Not that I don't suffer sometimes from the aches and pains, but so far I haven't felt like killing anyone.

    That message makes me giggle when I see it.


    Hello, Knute! :)

    Hey, funny thing, I believe it's Knut (without an "e") ... hee hee, now this all over again. :D


    Maybe it is ... maybe it isn't.
    9409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559907)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Must be user error.

    I used it in spite of the error. *Edit* Gosh darn it, I'm good.


    SJ has over 1/3 the number of my posts, but she's been here about 2 months and I've been here about 1.5 yrs.
    9410) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559905)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one can prove Labbie is single.

    I can. My ex (if you can find her) can. The IRS can too.


    Prove you have an ex.
    Prove she can or cannot be found.
    Prove there is an IRS.
    9411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Women only - An open letter to Proctor and Gamble (Message 559903)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I personally thought the messages that say "Have a Happy Period" were somewhat amusing. Not that I don't suffer sometimes from the aches and pains, but so far I haven't felt like killing anyone.

    That message makes me giggle when I see it.


    Hello, Knute! :)
    9412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559897)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No one can prove Labbie is single.
    9413) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559895)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge, I thought I was replying to Dune. Imagine my comprehension if I'd quit!!!!
    ;)

    Very permissive in New Mexico?

    Just kidding Sarge. I haven't even had any alcohol in over 2 years.

    Big choice or it hasn't occurred to you?

    Just got tired of it. Never really drank much at home and quit going out.

    No wonder you're single!
    9414) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rosslyn - Musicians unlock mystery melody in Scottish chapel (Message 559893)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'll let you guys do the homework this time.
    ;)
    See my book review section for clues to your quest.
    .


    Fine, you write my dissertation for me, then, and go on two more interviews for me.
    9415) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I Joined Seti! (Message 559891)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is this SETI thing everyone is talking about?!?


    Wasn't he a Pharoh?


    Yes.
    9416) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559889)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @
    I thought, reading past posts that yer 'puter was going kafluey.

    It wasn't my computer going kafluey, but this site that was being wierd, the box that normally shows up where you type your messages was a square about 1/4" by 1/4" .... impossible to see what you were typing.

    Well now, that's kinda' weird. It's been super slow at times, but never that. How is it now?

    Everything is back to normal now.


    It is?
    Shall someone stretch the thread again?
    Sometimes, when things are stretched, it's hard to fit things in that box.

    Well, I managed to click on the box, couldn't even see a cursor, it was so small and typed away. Strangely enough, even though I couldn't see what I typed, I could post a reply.

    Let's not do that again, it's just difficult.

    I would say things in here are back to the way it was, I use the term "normal" loosely.


    That's what happens when things get stretched.
    9417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe....Closed (Message 559886)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Well, on the bright side.... Esme' posted again.

    It was a temporary visitation...But still welcomed...and i'm glad it was there to mention for my 11,000th post.

    WOW!!!! Congrats my friend! One more post & you've ruined it.

    Well, I see you've ruined it.

    You knew i would...it was only a matter of time.

    Newbie assimilated.

    Of course when we talk about being windy...Misfit is by far #1 in that category...The most comments of all time...If he stopped today...it would take me almost 3 years to catch up.

    He's had years to do that. You have however had only 3 years.
    You're at half of his posts. I reckon in another 5 years you'll overtake him.
    Mathematicians: I need something to bolster my arguments.

    I'm not sure...But i think he only had about a 3 month lead on me in this forum...On the day he hit 5,000...i hit the 500 mark.

    To know me is to love me is to know me.

    How could you not be known?...At SETI...knowing you is inevitable.

    You mean in the BOINC universe.

    I'll let you tell that story.

    Once upon a time ... .
    9418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I Joined Seti! (Message 559877)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :-)

    :-)

    :o)

    :>P





    9419) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Why I Joined Seti! (Message 559868)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is this SETI thing everyone is talking about?!?
    9420) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559865)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge, I thought I was replying to Dune. Imagine my comprehension if I'd quit!!!!
    ;)


    Very permissive in New Mexico?


    Just kidding Sarge. I haven't even had any alcohol in over 2 years.


    Big choice or it hasn't occurred to you?
    9421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559863)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @
    I thought, reading past posts that yer 'puter was going kafluey.

    It wasn't my computer going kafluey, but this site that was being wierd, the box that normally shows up where you type your messages was a square about 1/4" by 1/4" .... impossible to see what you were typing.

    Well now, that's kinda' weird. It's been super slow at times, but never that. How is it now?

    Everything is back to normal now.


    It is?
    Shall someone stretch the thread again?
    Sometimes, when things are stretched, it's hard to fit things in that box.
    9422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 559859)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I heard recently that I "clean up well," but I ignored it for the most part.
    9423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rosslyn - Musicians unlock mystery melody in Scottish chapel (Message 559857)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes,
    Nothing mystical about it other than someone using the symbols to create part of a puzzle 600 years old in a Temple designed after Solomon's Temple and built by one of the founding families of the Knights Templar, who were killed by the greed of the King of France and Pope Clement V, over money, after enjoying a papal sanction for 200 years.
    :)
    .


    That made sense because ... ?
    Please elucidate. Elaborate on how each and every one of your points suggests something mystical.

    Point 1 = puzzles.
    Point 2 = plagiarism.
    Point 3 = heck, I do not bother trying to talk about Knights Templar; I didn't see the Da Vinci Code and do not care to.
    Point 4 = human greed/money lust.
    Point 5 = the turns of whimsical humans (like Iran, 1979, a US enemy, so it's enemy, Iraq = a US ally ... including Saddam. Later, Saddam, not so much a friend ... a la Borat voice.)
    9424) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559849)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry Sarge, I thought I was replying to Dune. Imagine my comprehension if I'd quit!!!!
    ;)


    Very permissive in New Mexico?
    9425) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe....Closed (Message 559847)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmmmm...

    Yup.

    Exactly...

    Talk about a disappearing act....


    *grin*

    Well, on the bright side.... Esme' posted again.


    To yell at me for someone else drawing her into something that was over-blown and misunderstood in the first place. I think someone owes her an apology, and it is not me this time.
    9426) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 559843)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any cute redheaded ladies wander through this thread?
    Yoo-hoo!
    Where ARE you?!?

    Sarge, you appear to have red hair!

    He's not that cute John.


    Dune looks like Tommy Shaw. I look like Johnny Rzenik.
    9427) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 559840)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any cute redheaded ladies wander through this thread?
    Yoo-hoo!
    Where ARE you?!?

    Sarge, you appear to have red hair!


    That's not me.
    I'm only 1/4 Irish and brunette.
    9428) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559837)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I'm an ex-hippie that doesn't use any more.

    Errrr, Nope, self-modded.

    Prove it.

    Prove what?

    Sorry I thought you were saying I'm lying. My bad.

    No problem, I know how you ex-hippies memory's are. ;)

    EDIT: I thought you wanted me to prove that I modded myself. /EDIT


    I have an excellent memory. :)
    I remember things from 1971.


    But what about everything in between then and now??? lol

    Just think what you could remember if you started using again!!!
    Maybe even 1969!!!!


    I don't use [EDIT: and never did].
    And since in 1969, I was 1, all I remember is the Fisher Price clock outside my crib and the very steep hills of Ithaca, NY, where we lived 1/2 year.
    9429) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559836)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    No problem, I know how you ex-hippies memory's are. ;)

    It's actually improving as time goes on. Why yesterday I even remembered my pants. This morning however, I took a slight downturn.


    That's 'cuz you forgot to change into jammies two nights ago.
    9430) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 559834)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Any cute redheaded ladies wander through this thread?
    Yoo-hoo!
    Where ARE you?!?
    9431) Message boards : Cafe SETI : #####PADDY'S IRISH PUB##### (Message 559833)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Killian's?
    9432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559825)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I'm an ex-hippie that doesn't use any more.

    Errrr, Nope, self-modded.

    Prove it.

    Prove what?

    Sorry I thought you were saying I'm lying. My bad.

    No problem, I know how you ex-hippies memory's are. ;)

    EDIT: I thought you wanted me to prove that I modded myself. /EDIT


    I have an excellent memory. :)
    I remember things from 1971.
    9433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559817)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I'm an ex-hippie that doesn't use any more.


    LOL! Tell me another one!
    Thanks to you ex-hippies, younger guys that grow their hair long get assumed to be one of you! Darn you, ex-hippies!

    I know, sad but true. The world may know my secret. I'm disgustingly straight.
    Everyone wants to be us, secretly in some cases.


    I'm sure Mrs. Dune is happy about that!
    9434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559816)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thread assimilated. I win.


    Admiral Janeway: "Must be something you assimilated."
    Borg Queen: "What have you done?"
    Admiral Janeway: "I thought we didn't need words to understand each other."
    Borg Queen: "You've infected us with a neuralytic pathogen."
    Admiral Janeway: "Just enough ... to bring chaos to order."
    9435) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559813)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Time for me to make an appearance in this thread.



    I win. You lose.
    9436) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No One Can Prove! (Message 559812)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    OK, I'm an ex-hippie that doesn't use any more.


    LOL! Tell me another one!
    Thanks to you ex-hippies, younger guys that grow their hair long get assumed to be one of you! Darn you, ex-hippies!
    9437) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559732)
    Posted 5 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning after the first lawn mowing of the year. Surprisingly, the mower started easily after a long winter's nap.

    Well, it's not really a lawn so much as it is a collection of dirt, weeds, cacti, and some grass.


    Hello, again, Cabbie. :)


    How's it going Large?


    And in CHARGE! :)
    9438) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559704)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning after the first lawn mowing of the year. Surprisingly, the mower started easily after a long winter's nap.

    Well, it's not really a lawn so much as it is a collection of dirt, weeds, cacti, and some grass.


    Hello, again, Cabbie. :)
    9439) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rosslyn - Musicians unlock mystery melody in Scottish chapel (Message 559696)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If one could dump whatever that stuff was on a drum and get those patterns to show up by singing at a certain note or maybe by striking the drum, then who's to say someone didn't do the same hundreds of years ago, see an interesting pattern, and incorporate it into the architecture. If so, then it began with an accident and overall there may be nothing mystical about it.
    9440) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 559689)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    There's an excellent Java animation here, with various things you can adjust. I find it looks best if you set the projection to about 0.5, the speed to about 80. And if you can go cross-eyed, switch to the double view and go cross-eyed so the two views merge in the middle.


    It's not helpful for me because I do not see two clearly resolvable cubes in there.
    9441) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559685)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alas, I need a nap. Later Dudes.

    I have that effect on women.

    Bore them to death? :(
    At least you've got Mrs. Dune.

    She's sleeping right now.

    I guess that would fit the pattern. :P

    Speaking of put to sleep.....

    You should make some wake-up music for her :)


    That was pretty scary.
    And MTV2 still plays music in Deutschland?
    9442) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The first reason (Message 559654)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The first reason was, ummmmmm, errrrrrr

    It was ummmmmmm

    (I'll get back to you.)


    I'd say ...



    ... so that this silly, over-blown thing gets dropped.

    But closing someone else's thread (yeah, as if I have that magical power) pisses people off.

    Catch-22, lol.
    9443) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559649)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alas, I need a nap. Later Dudes.

    I have that effect on women.

    Bore them to death? :(
    At least you've got Mrs. Dune.

    She's sleeping right now.

    I guess that would fit the pattern. :P
    9444) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559641)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Alas, I need a nap. Later Dudes.

    I have that effect on women.


    Bore them to death? :(
    At least you've got Mrs. Dune.
    9445) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559636)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @
    I thought, reading past posts that yer 'puter was going kafluey.

    It wasn't my computer going kafluey, but this site that was being wierd, the box that normally shows up where you type your messages was a square about 1/4" by 1/4" .... impossible to see what you were typing.


    The entry box gets re-sized sometimes when somebody has stretched the thread with oversized images.
    9446) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559624)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Maybe you could get Mrs. Dune to cook you a nice meal! :-)
    9447) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559622)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Then you could also detour to Toledo or Akron or wherever that place someone else is.
    9448) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559620)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dune, what's shakin'?


    Strangely, she looks like that cute and famous polar bear in Germany, affectionately known as Knute. What a coincedence!

    That's just a wee, baby bear, I'm all grown up.


    Oh, yeah?

    Yup. Adult bear, this one.


    With adult teeth and adult claws, eh?

    Eat you for a meal if you are reachable.


    I don't taste good and reachable only if you're coming to Michigan.
    You can visit KM along the way.
    Labbie is too far away, in New Mexico or one of those southwestern places.
    9449) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559613)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dune, what's shakin'?

    Methinks there is someone who adores you

    Who's that? Mr. Finkleberry?

    *Sigh* Where have you been? I've (& Kenzie) have been worried sick about you!!!

    Sorry to have worried you Dune. I did poke my head in here on Wednesday to say hello. Saw Kenzie, said hi. I have been in demand in the real world, so I haven't had time for this virtual one. Miss me?


    Sorry, Stacey Jane, I wasn't worried about you, because I figured it was precisely what you said it was. :-)
    9450) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559612)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dune, what's shakin'?


    Strangely, she looks like that cute and famous polar bear in Germany, affectionately known as Knute. What a coincedence!

    That's just a wee, baby bear, I'm all grown up.


    Oh, yeah?

    Yup. Adult bear, this one.


    With adult teeth and adult claws, eh?
    9451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559605)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dune, what's shakin'?


    Strangely, she looks like that cute and famous polar bear in Germany, affectionately known as Knute. What a coincedence!

    That's just a wee, baby bear, I'm all grown up.


    Oh, yeah?
    9452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559603)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    9453) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559594)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey Dune, what's shakin'?


    Strangely, she looks like that cute and famous polar bear in Germany, affectionately known as Knute. What a coincedence!
    9454) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559547)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    GoodMorningAfternoonNight!


    "In case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening and good night!"
    9455) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559545)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    looking for that magical post...


    Hello Cabbie.

    Cabby? Isn't that the nickname for taxis? Hello TAXII!!!


    A cabby is the driver of the taxi.
    See above poem.
    A Labbie is the dermist of a taxi.
    I guess you don't know 'em.
    :)
    9456) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 559539)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Okay, having read my reply, I realize it's less than clear. So I've quickly whipped up a couple of pictures to illustrate.


    This is what I mean by making a cube from two squares.


    This is a tesseract fomed from a blue outer cube and a red inner cube. The corners are joined by more lines. The interesting thing is that the internal bits that look like pyramids with the tops cut off (I've highlighted one yellow) are also CUBES in four dimensional space, and all the new faces are squares. It's just because we can't properly represent a four-dimensional object in three dimensions that these cubes and squares look distorted.

    BTW, I like your avatar.


    From http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/docs/holt/tesseract/top.html ...

    How to make a tesseract
    Start with a point. Make a copy of the point, and move it some distance away. Connect these points. We now have a segment. Make a copy of the segment, and move it away from the first segment in a new (orthogonal) direction [EDIT by Sarge: and by the same distance as the distance between your first point and the copy of that point]. Connect corresponding points. We now have an ordinary square. Make a copy of the square, and move it in a new (orthogonal) direction [same as in my other edit]. Connect corresponding points. We now have a cube. Make a copy and move it in a new (orthogonal, fourth) direction [same as in the first edit]. Connect corresponding points. This is the tesseract.

    What new (orthogonal, fourth) direction, you may ask. Well. . . any other direction! That is, to visualize the tesseract, there doesn't need to be a physical analogue of the fourth dimension. All you need is your imagination, and we hope you will enjoy this demonstration of just such an approach.


    Akhenaton's post, quoted here, shows nicely Step 3: inflating from the 2-d square to the 3-d cube.

    Since we need the fourth dimension for the last step, and it must be mutually orthogonal to other three dimensions, well, I guess the quote is correct, there is no 3-d physical analog. But, the version I recall seeing (follow the MathWorld post) seems to make it easier to tell that the lengths of the segments connecting the two cubes are the same as the lengths of any of the segments from the previous steps.
    9457) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 559532)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Tesseract.html

    Note that the two 3-d cubes are side by side, not one within the other.
    I'll post more on this later if I can, perhaps showing some step-by-step construction.
    9458) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559522)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    looking for that magical post...


    Hello Cabbie.
    9459) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559394)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    470

    and is mathematics not poetic enough?


    It's discovery/creation, yes.
    It's presentation? That all depends. (Some turn it into something very stale.)
    Now, go back to the Brain Buster's thread already!!! :)
    9460) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559339)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The winner of TLPTPW#29 isLABBIE
    He was once employed as a cabbie.
    Now get competing for the past post before the outrage!
    And win before TLPLTPW#29 becomes TLPLTPW#30 on another page.
    9461) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559332)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Monday wrote:
    How about a poem then?


    Hm, I thought, this is answer enough:

    I wrote:
    Challenged by poets
    I feel suppressed while knowing
    I'm no poet myself

    But: I'm winning :D


    Challenged by poets,
    yes he know its.
    He feels suppressed while knowing
    a need to rhyme ever-growing.
    He claims he's no poet himself,
    yet also claims to be a dwarf rather than an elf.
    He once was winning,
    now he's in Religious Thread[9] and trying to avoid sinning.
    9462) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559320)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    and winning again, this time without a HAIKU


    Haiku.
    Ah-choo.
    Bless you.
    9463) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559310)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win...I win...Whatchagunnado...Whatchyagunnado when they come for you?

    I am Innocent!


    That's not what I heard.
    9464) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559284)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am Poetically Challenge...


    Rise up to the challenge!
    Take the time
    to construct a rhyme
    that is the poetic rival of Stonehenge.
    9465) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559277)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    if you need a rhyme
    for poet's day
    here's a rhyme
    sent from down my way
    if the words
    say what you would say
    they are yours
    on poet's day


    Double post?

    Repeat from last night...I didn't feel like writing another poem.


    I don't mean to boast,
    but I win ... with this post.
    9466) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559263)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    no
    9467) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559258)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Glue post.
    9468) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559255)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    if you need a rhyme
    for poet's day
    here's a rhyme
    sent from down my way
    if the words
    say what you would say
    they are yours
    on poet's day


    Double post?
    9469) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559106)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    That was CRAP.
    9470) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 559100)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    ...and now for something completely different...

    The Happiest Days of Our Lives / Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2 MTV2 broadcast of the movie

    Comfortably Numb

    I was going to also post "What Shall We Do Now?", but it is questionable for here because of the rules...


    Wish You Were Here.
    9471) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559092)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Roy is a figment of your imagination.
    9472) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 559087)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    NASA likes us to think that the entire planet of Mars is completely red.


    Where'd you get that idea?!?
    9473) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559085)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ummm, yeah.
    9474) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559042)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "That is a stomach turner." -- MrGray
    Nighty night!

    Where is that wascally Mr. Gray?
    9475) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 559007)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning! It's some minutes past five in the morning, I had a short nap, posted something in the religious thread, and now the water for my coffee is boiling :)

    winning while having a big mug of hot strong coffee hours before the alarm-clock is ringing :-D


    Sleep is for the weak.

    Or for the exhausted.


    What does that mean, lol?!?
    9476) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Music Video thread (Message 559005)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeannie part 1 - one of my most favorite songs by Falco, though AFAIK it was indexed for the first year(s)

    Jeannie part 2
    Jeannie part 3
    Jeannie part 4 (the last two ones came out after Falco's death)


    "Vienna Calling"
    9477) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558974)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good morning! It's some minutes past five in the morning, I had a short nap, posted something in the religious thread, and now the water for my coffee is boiling :)

    winning while having a big mug of hot strong coffee hours before the alarm-clock is ringing :-D


    Sleep is for the weak.
    9478) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558961)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In for a quick loOse?


    Er, lose, you mean?
    9479) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558957)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    We need more losers rather than loOse peOple!
    9480) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558955)
    Posted 4 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lucky #7!


    Messages analyzed = 366

    First Message Dated = Friday, May 4, 2007 2:13:58 AM UTC, Message ID 558935
    Last Message Dated = Tuesday, May 1, 2007 3:49:16 PM UTC, Message ID 557480
    A total of 2.4 days.

    Standings

    001 Member ID is 00007119, John Clark-------------------- 11:28:45 ___ 36 posts with average 19.12 minutes, 2 day increase 08.13h.
    002 Member ID is 01112853, Daniel Michel----------------- 10:19:27 ___ 36 posts with average 17.20 minutes, 2 day increase 09.12h.
    003 Member ID is 08206040, Monday------------------------ 5:06:51 ___ 19 posts with average 16.15 minutes, 2 day increase 04.90h.
    004 Member ID is 08355887, Dune_Finkleberry-------------- 4:56:04 ___ 26 posts with average 11.38 minutes, 2 day increase 04.31h.
    005 Member ID is 00009826, Mike-------------------------- 3:55:43 ___ 9 posts with average 26.18 minutes, 2 day increase 03.55h.
    006 Member ID is 08606933, kenzieB----------------------- 3:10:04 ___ 39 posts with average 04.87 minutes, 2 day increase 02.42h.
    007 Member ID is 00230276, Sarge------------------------- 3:04:31 ___ 23 posts with average 08.02 minutes, 2 day increase 03.08h.
    008 Member ID is 00293549, KB7RZF------------------------ 2:55:34 ___ 55 posts with average 03.18 minutes, 2 day increase 01.36h.
    009 Member ID is 08428716, Labbie------------------------ 2:26:37 ___ 36 posts with average 04.07 minutes, 2 day increase 01.40h.
    010 Member ID is 00322107, Misfit------------------------ 1:54:02 ___ 16 posts with average 07.12 minutes, 2 day increase 01.61h.
    011 Member ID is 00147175, Captain Avatar---------------- 1:39:24 ___ 10 posts with average 09.93 minutes, 2 day increase 01.59h.
    012 Member ID is 08489449, zwerg8_thorin----------------- 1:32:32 ___ 19 posts with average 04.87 minutes, 2 day increase 00.84h.
    013 Member ID is 00031411, The Gas Giant----------------- 1:30:01 ___ 6 posts with average 15.00 minutes, 2 day increase 01.29h.
    014 Member ID is 00117632, Jim_S------------------------- 0:59:18 ___ 3 posts with average 19.77 minutes, 2 day increase 00.99h.
    015 Member ID is 00440777, Matthew----------------------- 0:55:36 ___ 14 posts with average 03.97 minutes, 2 day increase 00.73h.
    016 Member ID is 08367652, ajinbc------------------------ 0:42:09 ___ 6 posts with average 07.02 minutes, 2 day increase 00.70h.
    017 Member ID is 00012569, RichaG------------------------ 0:38:48 ___ 5 posts with average 07.75 minutes, 2 day increase 00.62h.
    018 Member ID is 00259585, nobody------------------------ 0:23:31 ___ 3 posts with average 07.83 minutes, 2 day increase 00.39h.
    019 Member ID is 08597505, Stacey Jane------------------- 0:17:30 ___ 2 posts with average 08.75 minutes, 2 day increase 00.29h.
    020 Member ID is 00258570, Lampros----------------------- 0:15:18 ___ 1 post in 15.30 minutes, 2 day increase 00.26h.
    021 Member ID is 08566784, Pawly------------------------- 0:12:57 ___ 1 post in 12.95 minutes, 2 day increase 00.22h.

    May 4, 2007 2:16:41 AM UTC

    Additions!
    The fine print!
    There are no guarantees. I am not responsible for any errors.
    If there are errors blame Misfit even though he/she/it has nothing to do with any errors or stats.


    9481) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Is a Tesseract the fifth dimension? (Message 558753)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think we need to clarify projections and cross-sections.
    I do not agree with the use of the terms.
    Nor do I agree with Sagan's presentation of the shadow of a cube into 2-d space.
    Backing it up, I do not agree with the 2-d representation of a 3-d representation of a tesseract (aka hypercube) as shown by Chris S's original post (and also featured in Cosmos).
    The 3-d representation of a tesseract that I have seen has some distinct differences.
    9482) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558749)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    WINNERROOing

    Well, John, you messed up a perfectly good winning streak!

    Was this Thursday outrage?


    That makes three this week.
    9483) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Visitors from the future? (Message 558701)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once I read that, due to evolution and climatic change, the human beings of the future will be small, hairless and pale, because the sun will be so strong that the new generations will be living under artificial light. One day I was talking about travelling through time with a friend, and I told her that if this was possible, people from the future would be visiting us. Now I started to think: could it be possible that our typical aliens with white bold heads are just the future human generations visiting us? Just a thought that came to my head...


    May the women of the future be as intelligent and as beautiful as you.
    Therefore, hopefully, they will not be hairless. :)
    Pale's ok, though. :)
    9484) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558694)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    POOOOooottttt!!!&
    I'm WINNING!!!
    Just had to add some aroma to the thread. 8-]

    Whay flavour is it?

    Beans & Bacon.


    Getting grossed out here. LOL.
    9485) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558663)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hmmm.
    9486) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558627)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Destroying a 6 hour winning streak!
    9487) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558560)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From http://battlestargalactica.com:


    9488) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558559)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Adrian is now winning.


    Yo, Adrian!
    9489) Message boards : Cafe SETI : No Data? (Message 558532)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Lore and Data are dead, now we have B4.
    9490) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558526)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How'd you like my timing of the screenshots of those three scenes?
    9491) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558525)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sure does, eh, Dan?
    9492) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558520)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FTL is sufficient:



    9493) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558519)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FTL is sufficient:



    9494) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558505)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    FTL is sufficient:



    9495) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558485)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Borg mod is your friend.
    9496) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558480)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Blah bLAh bLaH!
    9497) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558477)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    If you say so. :)


    Indeed I do!
    9498) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558474)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning for at least 30 minutes.
    9499) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 558457)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, no! This was at the bottom of the first page!
    9500) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nobody (Richard), or anyone, Can you read this? (Message 558455)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I could read it. Actually it was much easier than most of Richard's posts :)

    I can read it and I agree.

    But why can't I do the Jumble puzzles?


    Perhaps the first and last letters are not in their proper places.
    9501) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558449)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome back Stacey! Dune was preparing a search party...

    Ohh, it is nice to be missed, even if it is by people I've never actually met before. Gotta run again, be back soon. xoxo

    She's Alive!


    <=== Not missed and barely alive.
    9502) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Nobody (Richard), or anyone, Can you read this? (Message 558366)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This has already been circulating in e-mail a while.
    Many people CAN read things like this, because of the brain's ability to unscramble things or fill in blanks. It appears to be an innate ability of the human brain.
    9503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : *********BEETHOVEN'S XI********* (Message 558362)
    Posted 3 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    1) Message boards : : Cafe SETI : *********BEETHOVEN'S XI*********
    Posted 38 days ago by Beethoven
    9504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558358)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The Last Person To Post Wind # 30
    ?!?
    9505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558144)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    winning while having to comfort a good friend who just realized that her boyfriend seems to be an alcoholic


    People never expect the Spanish (Alcoholism) Inquisition!
    9506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558141)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Good evening, and good morning, and good afternoon to everyone! Just had a nice afternoon and evening outside, and learned from my friend that today was not only the official Workers' Holiday, but also the pagan holiday "Betane". Interesting.

    Came here, and realized that it's already a new LPTPW thread again. My, YOU are fast!!! ;-)

    Congratulations Labbie!


    I second that. :-)


    btw: I win!

    And: on this site I learned that there are 0 people in the States with my name :-) So, when I go there, I'm unique


    Wie heisst du?
    Was ist dein Nahmen?
    9507) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558140)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hey, why was Richard's Birthday thread hidden?

    Oh well.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANIEL . . . HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY . . .

    . . . iT's Daniel Michel's Birthday - May 13th, 2007


    Because of the rule that all UOTD and birthday wishes must be done within a single UOTD and Birthday thread, respectively. Next, condolences.
    9508) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558139)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Missed by [.........] that much!


    Apparently, [.........] = approximately 20 minutes.
    9509) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558137)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It's back!


    What is it? (Faith No More, "Epic.")
    9510) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#30 - Thread CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 558135)
    Posted 2 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Not so sneaky, it sat there for almost 30 minutes.

    Yeah, but I was busy at work. LOL Therefore, sneaky. Hehe. You caught me with my guard down. Hehe.

    It's not my fault you just can't dismiss your clients to do something more important, like posting.

    LOL I can't tell the cops to shut up and leave me alone. LOL :-) Thats ok, the best man won! heheh. Next time. :-)


    Reno 9-1-1.
    9511) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557340)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    ?


    ¿


    !?
    9512) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557333)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wow, the Aussies, Brits, and West Coast Canucks sure did not post much last night!
    9513) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557332)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Can't sleep. So, winning with insomnia!

    I hate it when that happens.

    me too...

    So do I, and I'm supposed to be awake!
    947

    I should be drunk...considering how I feel... :(


    ?
    9514) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557150)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Going to bed later and getting up earlier to win!
    Nah, it'll be a Brit or an Aussie.
    9515) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557141)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    They can be rather vociferous.
    9516) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557140)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    It'll probably cause the return of a few ppl.
    9517) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557139)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Wonder how that will go.
    9518) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557136)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I win. This thread has been assimilated.

    Sleep...


    He's exhausted.
    Yes, Doctor, but if I may make a supposition: his comment was not meant to indicate fatigue, but to suggest a course of action.
    9519) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557134)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge got 2 hours? Wow.... hehhe


    Huh?
    9520) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 557111)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Now I have one from Einstein@Home. 14 hrs. into it. Predicted time, 85 hrs. Wassup widdat?
    9521) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 557110)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So how did it all turn out?...Did the WU's ever finish?


    I believe some WUs finished and uploaded.
    9522) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 557092)
    Posted 1 May 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    speaking of left-handed: Does it only seem that there is a higher percentage of left-handed people in the States than in Germany, or is this a fact?

    oh, btw:
    <<<< winning! :-)


    Left-handedness is rare, period.
    At best, 10%.
    Backwards people try to make their children not write with their left hand.
    9523) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556957)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning a hotel.

    Oh, so you're rich? ;-D

    Sure, he stars in Mad Magazine!

    wooooooooooooooow!!!

    Easy, he doesn't do autographs.


    Yes, I do.
    Not too many left-handed males that sign as neatly as I do, so I like to show it off. Off to meet some potential colleagues. Lata'!
    9524) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 556955)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    (because I like wires & poles)

    Why does trig always have to be about poles and wires? ;)


    Why do wires and poles always have to be about trig?
    But let's see what he comes up with.
    Especially curious, since minimization is not something usually connected with trigonometry, is it? :)
    And if/when he gets it, let's see what he tells us regarding how he made his sketches, etc. ... .
    The solution is not what I am looking to learn about ... .
    9525) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556949)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning from a hotel.
    9526) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 556814)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    it should be close to:
    - Call the line segment along the ground L, the distance between the two poles
    - Call the base of 1st wire's triangle X ( along L but shorter )
    - other triangle's base is L-X
    1) define the wirelengths as a functions of their base(X or L-X) & height ( pythagoras )
    2) add the two functions to get a function for total wire length ( with respect to L, X, poleheight1 & poleheight2 )
    3) take the first derivative of that function
    4) Set the first derivative to 0 ( to find a relative extrema )
    5) used the solved functions as argunents to TAN functions on both sides to show the angles are equal on both sides.


    Derivative with respect to what as the variable?
    Keep at it.
    9527) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556812)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning from a different airport.
    9528) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 556594)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    New face on Mars:
    Left: Actual image from Mars Global Surveyor.
    Right:Artists enhanced impression of the "new face."

    Also from Life On MARS-New Scientific Evidence

    Images taken by Mars Global Surveyor in 2000 or 2001.


    Strange, the recent pix I have seen make it seem much less like a face, not more.
    9529) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556574)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Awww, man, I expected 3 faces to be showing.
    9530) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A sugestion from Sheryl Crow (Message 556573)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Good one, C/A! :)
    9531) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556531)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    We are misfitus of Borg, your Blame belongs to us.


    Now put that on all faces showing, not just the one.
    Try it on a Rubik's Cube, as well. :)
    9532) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 556519)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Is it a rock or a skull?
    This image was taken from one of the rovers.

    This post seems out of the ordinary for you, Walla. Not a slight, just curious.
    9533) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 556515)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    LOL!
    Looks blonde to me!
    9534) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556511)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Checkpoints? As in starts from the beginning if paused?

    Yeah...that's what he meant...RCN had no checkpoints...so if you had to stop BOINC for any reason....The WU would start from the beginning...If you had to reboot...all your crunching up to that point goes down the drain.


    Sounds silly.
    Wonder if there is a good reason for it?
    9535) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 556448)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    Mmmm.
    But so not natural.


    And all this time I thought she was :(

    Well, me still loves her.


    If she is, then she's been a fake blonde in 99.44% of other movies in which she's acted.
    9536) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SKYPE (Message 556431)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I am primarily using Skype as my substitute for a cell phone. I've got one year for unlimited SkypeOut in the US & Canada, and am buying SkypeIn at 3 months at a time. (3 months at a time because I'll probably move towards the end of the summer.)

    I have problems with dialpad when I dial-out. A call is made, and then if I try to put in an extension number or something like that, it often does not read it whether I punch the keys on the virtual pad or type in the numbers. It's worst when I am connected to the 'Net on wireless.

    Does anyone else experience this problem?

    I've filled out feedback forms for them sometimes, but I wonder if it might be time for some more direct contact?
    9537) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556428)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Checkpoints? As in starts from the beginning if paused?
    9538) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 556425)
    Posted 30 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    red and proud

    Kirsten Dunst. She's sooooo sweet ♥





    Mmmm.
    But so not natural.
    9539) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556369)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [I just grabbed one WU since I'm home now, so I'll check it out and let you know.


    Thanks, Jeremy. Dan, I think it might be still doing just what you said.

    So far mine is at 11 minutes, and still at 0%. It might not give a % done, the Time to Completion doesn't change either.


    4/29/2007 6:59:04 PM|Riesel Sieve Project|Computation for task riesel-sieve_1798236_1 finished
    4/29/2007 6:59:08 PM|Riesel Sieve Project|[file_xfer] Started upload of file riesel-sieve_1798236_1_fact.out
    4/29/2007 6:59:32 PM|Riesel Sieve Project|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file riesel-sieve_1798236_1_fact.out

    I think this is saying I've completed some work units?
    9540) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556347)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [I just grabbed one WU since I'm home now, so I'll check it out and let you know.


    Thanks, Jeremy. Dan, I think it might be still doing just what you said.
    9541) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556339)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does BOINC not like to connect to servers when ppl are on certain wireless networks? No connection for the last 90-120 minutes, ever since I took the laptop from home to a coffee shop and am on a wireless network.

    Did you try restarting BOINC at that location.?

    btw 3000th post...Congrats Sarge!


    I was thinking about it.
    Did it now, and that did the trick.
    Still, some work unit from Riesel Sieve with 22 mins. of work and no percentage completed?!?

    I have crunched some RCN...and as i recall it showed no percentage readout while it was crunching...So it may be normal.


    Perhaps it jumps from 0 to 100 percent once it is done? If so, that's weird.
    9542) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Predictor is banning members today. (Message 556323)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Once again an example of linking board events with the "science" ... ?
    9543) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556267)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does BOINC not like to connect to servers when ppl are on certain wireless networks? No connection for the last 90-120 minutes, ever since I took the laptop from home to a coffee shop and am on a wireless network.

    Did you try restarting BOINC at that location.?

    btw 3000th post...Congrats Sarge!


    I was thinking about it.
    Did it now, and that did the trick.
    Still, some work unit from Riesel Sieve with 22 mins. of work and no percentage completed?!?
    9544) Message boards : Cafe SETI : BOINC and wireless (Message 556259)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Does BOINC not like to connect to servers when ppl are on certain wireless networks? No connection for the last 90-120 minutes, ever since I took the laptop from home to a coffee shop and am on a wireless network.
    9545) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556196)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thats crap Sarge. Sorry


    Never did get the call. Weird.
    9546) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556180)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sarge, your fingers are gonna have a bad buildup of ear-wax on them.


    What, me worry?
    9547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556177)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In fact, Dune, think I'll try that wee trick right now ;))

    Let me know!


    Ahhhh, sweeet! Silence, blessed silence.:)))


    ?
    9548) Message boards : Cafe SETI : seti图形界面的上面的红色条带是什么? (Message 556119)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AltaVista BabelFish indicates stuff about shapes, boundaries and colors, indicating the question was indeed about the screensaver.
    9549) Message boards : Cafe SETI : seti图形界面的上面的红色条带是什么? (Message 556115)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I lost interesest in translating after the headline
    "My Mother Was a Computer"


    No way. It says that?
    9550) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556113)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    5 minutes now.
    9551) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556112)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning, without singing, cause I don't sing. :-P


    Some say I don't either.
    Now, if someone says "I'll call around 2 p.m." about a job, and it is 2:31 p.m., how much longer should I wait?!? I need to finish preparations for the interview I am going to tomorrow, down in Georgia.

    if they wanted you bad enough, they would have called earlier. Unless you want this job real real bad, go after another.


    I'm going to wait 8 more minutes.
    After that, I am calling my Dad.

    Is dad the one who's supposed to call you for the job?


    No, I wanted to let him know one other place has made an offer.
    9552) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556111)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Errr, 6 minutes.
    9553) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556109)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Make that 7 minutes.
    9554) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556108)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning, without singing, cause I don't sing. :-P


    Some say I don't either.
    Now, if someone says "I'll call around 2 p.m." about a job, and it is 2:31 p.m., how much longer should I wait?!? I need to finish preparations for the interview I am going to tomorrow, down in Georgia.

    if they wanted you bad enough, they would have called earlier. Unless you want this job real real bad, go after another.


    I'm going to wait 8 more minutes.
    After that, I am calling my Dad.
    9555) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556106)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Welcome to the land of ignore. :)
    9556) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Professor Stephen Hawking's Zero-G Experience 04/26/07 (Message 556103)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Crabs ??? Inhaling crabs ??? All sounds pretty crook to me.

    Another missunderstanding ... Many people say that scuba diving is weightless. Another missunderstanding.


    By the smell and look of it he had eaten a lot of crabs for lunch...
    I had cheese omelett. With enough cheese in your guts its hard to hurl. Disgusting tip of the day number two.

    Scuba diving is as weightless as laying on the beach. You are suspended in water, but every cell is still feeling the drag of one g.


    Cheese makes me hurl.
    9557) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556100)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    In fact, Dune, think I'll try that wee trick right now ;))

    Let me know!


    It could take a while.
    9558) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556096)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning, without singing, cause I don't sing. :-P


    Some say I don't either.
    Now, if someone says "I'll call around 2 p.m." about a job, and it is 2:31 p.m., how much longer should I wait?!? I need to finish preparations for the interview I am going to tomorrow, down in Georgia.
    9559) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556091)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    AC/DC, a blight on hard rock/heavy metal.
    Fun to sing in a Tom Keifer type-voice, making fun of both bands.
    9560) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556090)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Guess it is time for a lesson in probability, statistics, the law of LARGE numbers, etc. ... .
    9561) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556085)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the dark!


    What's your wife got to say about this?

    She lives in the dark too.


    You're keeping her in the dark?

    No, she put herself there.


    Anybody connected to Riesel Sieve? How could my computer work on a unit for 40 minutes that is predicted to take 72-73 minutes and still have 0.000% done?!?
    9562) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556079)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while it's 15 minutes after another potential employer should have called.
    9563) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 556075)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Working on Problem 2 (because I like wires & poles)

    notes so far:
    - poles can be different heights
    - smallest length of wire is always where, angle between wire segment #1 and ground is equal to angle between wire segment #2 and ground.
    - can prove with pythag + a little calc

    gotta sleep :D


    Hmmm. What's this angles thingy?
    9564) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556074)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the dark!


    What's your wife got to say about this?

    She lives in the dark too.


    You're keeping her in the dark?
    9565) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CONGRATULATIONS AL (Doc) on almost bEin' MarriEd SIR!!! (Message 556070)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Congratulations and all the best to you both.


    Congrats to Al, lil Al, and Alinator.
    9566) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556068)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know what they say,
    Once you go black,
    You'll never go back. :^D


    Urban myth. :P


    Once you go Sarge, you know large.


    Sarge, large and in charge.
    9567) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556066)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know what they say,
    Once you go black,
    You'll never go back. :^D


    Urban myth. :P


    Once you go Sarge, you know large.
    9568) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556064)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning in the dark!


    What's your wife got to say about this?
    9569) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556056)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You know what they say,
    Once you go black,
    You'll never go back. :^D


    Urban myth. :P
    9570) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556043)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how do I look as a black guy? No flames intended.


    Like a redheaded freckly guy with curly hair and buck teeth.

    ROFLMAO Come on Sarge, you know you want to.


    What, me worry?
    9571) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 556000)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    So, how do I look as a black guy? No flames intended.


    Like a redheaded freckly guy with curly hair and buck teeth.
    9572) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Strange things you find you wrote the night before (Message 555997)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Have you ever fired up your PC in the morning, logged onto your favorite forum to find that after returning from a night out just a few hours ago, you wrote something very strange?

    Did you even think you might have to report some identify thefy, because no way did you write that?


    Hint: do not drink and post at the same time.
    9573) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555996)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nothing but black avatars for the last 20 posts or so. LOL Come join the club!! The Black Avatar Club!


    Join the No Avatar Club.
    9574) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555993)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sorry to mess up your black avatar club.


    Avatars are atavistic.
    9575) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555970)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:







    2001 was 6 years ago.
    9576) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555955)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :P


    .


    9577) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555954)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :P


    .
    9578) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555953)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    :P
    9579) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555776)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Today the last CD rolls off the assembly line ... roll off ... I don't know how they roll off ... yes, vinyl's here to stay ladies and gentleman ... And I keep hearing about this called global cooling ... the studio's so cold in here today I can't get the ladies to come in here topless ... everybody's crazy ... here's one for ya, folks ... Kennedy says he doesn't want to run for another term ... and I can understand that ... people ... I mean, if you wake up in the morning with Marilyn, you don't wanna get outta bed!

    Weird, Tripper. Weird, and not too funny.
    9580) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555769)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What is the smallest Dirac field?
    ...
    Come on, come on, you are my students.
    ...
    This sort of intellectual taupor may be sufficient for some disaster-prone place like Chernyobl, but it won't cut the mustard with me.
    ...
    Mr. Mallory, I have spent years honing my considerable intelligence so that I can impart a subject this complex with lucidity. I won't even bother to ask you the answer ... which is, my dear babes in the woods ... U(4)! That's U(4), Mr. Benesh, not U2!
    9581) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555764)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kind of quiet in here.
    Guess I'll sneak in a win.


    Nah.


    I'll have to keep trying.
    How's the dissertation coming Sarge?


    Submitted a chapter yesterday.
    Have to finish preparing a presentation for a Monday/Tuesday interview.
    Hopefully I will have time to type more on the dissertation on Sunday.


    What field are you based in? If you don't mind the question.


    Left field?
    Or, maybe, Z[2]?
    How about (Z[2])(x)/<x^2+1>? :)
    9582) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555758)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kind of quiet in here.
    Guess I'll sneak in a win.


    Nah.


    I'll have to keep trying.
    How's the dissertation coming Sarge?


    Submitted a chapter yesterday.
    Have to finish preparing a presentation for a Monday/Tuesday interview.
    Hopefully I will have time to type more on the dissertation on Sunday.
    9583) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 555754)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    K. Just tuned in. Who is "Dr Robert Falco" ?

    2110


    Rock Me, Amadeus!
    Der Kommissar is calling from Vienna.
    9584) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555753)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Kind of quiet in here.
    Guess I'll sneak in a win.


    Nah.
    9585) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 555752)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One of the 67 civilian and military videos, on the message of 18 April, at 19:19:47 UTC, the one from Chile on January 1, 2007, looks like somebody was flying a radio-controlled saucer, just like a model airplane.



    [EDIT:] Here is the video we are speaking of: UFO in Chile January 1, 1007.

    Doh! I was ready to prove you wrong ;) I watched it several times and here are some of what I thought were interesting observations I made to determine it was a hoax or fake and why I agree with you.

    1) The cameraman seems to be determined to film something, not matter what. He is filming this "UFO" but is not too concerned to take a minute to get a five star shot of his BBQ ribs ;) So in other words, whatever it was he knew was going to be there.


    And the rest of the people seem so interested/concerned.

    2) I was nearly convinced until I seen this thing spin around in a circle (the same circle, speed, coarse...etc) and looked like it belonged on a mobile.

    3) If you take into the account the size of the house, and the size of the object, and how poor it looks when he focues in, the thing is very very very very small. Maybe a fly?

    4) There are several faint, but noticeable sun glares in the lower right corner at times, same with the object. This could well be a camera glare, or a hoax, which the likely case IMO is a hoax. (PS. Note how only he is interested in it...everyone else is laughing and having a good old time :) ).

    [EDIT:] 5) New Years day...confetti? ;)



    The thing looks DRAW IN, for Pete's sake.
    And does this guy have an unsteady hand, or does he keep using zoom/tele or did he super-impose an image at various places in various time frames?
    9586) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 555750)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Aien Autopsy - The Sequel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phEWjUXFiSg
    The smoking gun for alien existence.


    Dr. Zoidberg!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty8tf-IG1Lk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqMq_rm4slQ
    9587) Message boards : Cafe SETI : UFO Videos & Documents (Message 555746)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You'll like this,
    Give me a couple minutes...
    Ok:


    WOW...no thats too weird...


    It's not like this suggestion has not been around for several years.
    9588) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 555744)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Certainly what was listed are examples of irrationality.
    Is there a contradiction here?
    I suspect there is.
    Rush said a collective will fail some/every time.
    So, can there be such a thing as collective rationality, even some of the time? Perhaps sometime, but not all the time?
    Is it even possible for an individual to be objective all the time, since they are always around collectives? (Hermits excluded, lol!)


    Strictly speaking, rationality only exists in individual men. There's no 'collective mind'....which itself is a thoroughly irrational notion.

    I find it revealing but not surprising that those that make a point of denigrating people that choose to be rational act so blatantly irrational...and anti-rational even. I wish you'd read your own posts sometimes. To be honest, A/C ...you don't even sound like yourself.


    You responded to my post, not A/C's.
    It is undeniable that groups make collective decisions, whether just for that group, for a larger group that elected them or a larger group that they have subjugated.
    So, if you wish, let us massage the term until we find one we can agree upon. We could play games with whether decisions take place in the heart (emotional, perhaps irrational) or the brain/mind (supposedly rational, though the brain contains the medulla oblongata --- see Version 7 of this thread for both funny and serious points about the medulla oblongata).
    Or, we could play games discussing whether "mind" should be replaced with "consciousness" or "decision making" or whatever ... .
    Let's consider the major areas of psychology over the past century: behaviorism, constructivism and sociocultural.
    ALL posit, and provide evidence for, how the outside ... society ... impacts the individual.
    Behaviorism: knowledge (from the one or the collective knowledge amassed by a group), or a sub-set of it, can be transmitted. Stimulus/response and all that good stuff.
    Constructivism: knowledge cannot be directly transmitted. An individual will interpret new things in light of their previous experiences, and learning only takes place when not only does new knowledge contradict knowledge gained from previous experience, but also when one experiences a cognitive disequilibrium and, rather than rejecting things, moves forward to a richer knowledge base. Rejection/assimilation/accommodation and all that good stuff. The individual is key/dominant here.
    Sociocultural: history, society, culture, economics, politics, etc ... are dominant forces on a person's cognition. Nothing exists in the individual mind which first did not exist in some way on the social/cultural level.
    No matter how you slice it, the individual does not exist in a vacuum.

    EDITed for grammar and spelling errors.
    9589) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555742)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    His posts are becoming shorter and less insightful.
    9590) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555739)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What the heck is going on here?

    Someone think my mistranslations are funny


    nObOdy previously pointed out "mourning" versus "moaning."
    Thorin, if you were to post "auf Deutsch," I would be able to read some of it but would have a lot of difficulty.
    Similarly, if I were to try to post "auf Deutsch," you would laugh from time to time because:

    1) Ich habe viele vergessen.
    2) If I were to use an online translator, you'd eventually figure it out because they are not perfect. (Maybe even far from it?)
    9591) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 555722)
    Posted 29 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    This is PRECISELY why rationality is a virtue. It is how human beings exist, survive, create civilizations, and achieve happiness.


    You forgot a few others: Deplete Earth's natural resources, wage war, gradually destroy the environment, etc.

    As far as logic and reason having a common bond within all of our humanity, well, I wouldn't agree with that completely. That might be correct for programmed robots, but humans will often define logic and reason based on their own interests.


    None of what you describe is possible among rational men.


    Certainly what was listed are examples of irrationality.
    Is there a contradiction here?
    I suspect there is.
    Rush said a collective will fail some/every time.
    So, can there be such a thing as collective rationality, even some of the time? Perhaps sometime, but not all the time?
    Is it even possible for an individual to be objective all the time, since they are always around collectives? (Hermits excluded, lol!)
    9592) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 555594)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Awaiting the return of Thorin and Jason Gee ... .

    LOL, I'm here, 6am with no sleep again, perfect for some geometrical gymnastics :P, waddup? more triangles?


    See any of the following: Problem 1; Problem 2; Problem 3; Problem 5; or Problem 6. You and Thorin have already been considering Problem 4.
    9593) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555576)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think thorin has a twitchy indext finger or a sensitive mouse, all this double clicking...

    none of both - just a system which is reacting a bit strange during ubdate & upgrade. instead of showing that I posted the post, my browser has asked me where to download the "forum_reply.php"-file! So I ondered, and hit the "Post reply" button once again, and got the same request. strange thing. That's why I'm using my laptop for posting atm

    btw.: winning!


    None of the above ... .


    Neither of either ... .
    9594) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555575)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I think thorin has a twitchy indext finger or a sensitive mouse, all this double clicking...

    none of both - just a system which is reacting a bit strange during ubdate & upgrade. instead of showing that I posted the post, my browser has asked me where to download the "forum_reply.php"-file! So I ondered, and hit the "Post reply" button once again, and got the same request. strange thing. That's why I'm using my laptop for posting atm

    btw.: winning!


    None of the above ... .
    9595) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555573)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Ok, back on topic, I win.


    me is changing the winner.


    I am.
    9596) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 555572)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Awaiting the return of Thorin and Jason Gee ... .
    9597) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 555570)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    EDIT: Connection error double post.
    9598) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 555564)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I wonder who flew over it?
    9599) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 555563)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "Redheads are an effort to understand the creation.
    Blondes involves our relation to the Creator.
    Since we can learn about the Creator from his creation, blondes can learn from redheads."
    (Paul H. Carr)
    9600) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 555531)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Shakespeare was Ginger, one of the most famous English writers ever

    That's news to me. All the portraits I recall seeing of Shakespeare didn't include any Ginger. But then cameras weren't so good then ;)


    The world will fall apart if this claim fails to be true.
    9601) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555467)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Mike. I'll take over for now.


    Go to sleep, Jeremy.

    Im at work, not allowed to sleep.


    Thought you worked a night shift.

    Nope. Right now I work 5am till 3pm, in about 2 weeks we change shifts, and I'll be working 5pm till 1am. :-)


    OIC.
    Anywho ... BUMP!
    9602) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 555466)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Another bump.
    3 bumps in a week is good, especially if it is a redhead. ;)
    9603) Message boards : Politics : History Repeating Itself (Message 555464)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump.
    9604) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 555461)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ?
    > moi'

    The science of course, these boards are really a waste of time. ( I know, why am I here now? I don't know)
    Second Life is much more fun!!

    Someone could do a sociological study on these message boards.

    > maybE nobody (is) do(ing) a *sociological study on these message boards*. ;0


    Maybe nobody is somebody. Maybe nobody is more than a photographer.
    9605) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555454)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Mike. I'll take over for now.


    Go to sleep, Jeremy.

    Im at work, not allowed to sleep.


    Thought you worked a night shift.
    9606) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555451)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Hi Mike. I'll take over for now.


    Go to sleep, Jeremy.
    9607) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 555448)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Need to count the losses. LOL :-)


    I would love [it if] i could win at work.LOL

    9608) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 555447)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ?

    > moi'


    The science of course, these boards are really a waste of time. ( I know, why am I here now? I don't know)
    Second Life is much more fun!!


    Someone could do a sociological study on these message boards.
    9609) Message boards : Cafe SETI : when SETI makes contact... (Message 555120)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    And this, too!
    9610) Message boards : Cafe SETI : when SETI makes contact... (Message 555118)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Nope, it will be like this! (See 2:27.)
    9611) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Current snapshot (Message 555113)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    How long before this gets updated?



    And what's wrong with updates?
    The clamor of elementary school children over Pluto's demotion was ... [fill in the blank].
    9612) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imus (Message 555112)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    From what is stated in the news his program was a sounding board for politcal politians who are against the current politcal machine. To rid of this format would put an end opposition.


    Ummm ... McCain was to join him for a show that was coming up not long afterwards.
    McCain may have been seen as slightly opposition in 2000, but he is far from being viewed that way now.
    9613) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 555111)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    [Yeah, no offense, but it's been that way for a while... That's probably why you two got in a bit of a disagreement on the significance...


    Perhaps, but I think it was he was assuming I was approaching things from approximately the same direction as the person who started this thread.

    BTW, I still haven't found name resolution for my IP address in my info, so I guess that's something peculiar to your info (???)


    Yes, mine is peculiar. Again, it tells more than the network, and that's due to the way the people overseeing the network named things.
    9614) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imus (Message 555090)
    Posted 28 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    My best guess it that some Big players in the news industry wanted IMUS out!! for political reasons.


    But he'd been around, what ... 20 or 30 years?
    So, why now, within your guess framework?
    9615) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 555058)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I submit that when it looks like someone is going to leave anyway, while there's a good chance that's correct, that we maintain an open mind and not say things in a harsh manner that in the end drives someone away that was not quite yet sure about leaving. I also submit that in the future I should use shorter sentences.
    9616) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 555045)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    BOINC uninstalled

    Why did you come to this forum to let us know about this? Are you trying to get sympathy? Are you looking for reasons to stay? Are you trying to convince others to leave the project too? If you have a problem with the project, in its current form, why tell people here who are, probably, the projects best supporters? I don't understand that at all.

    Have a good life.


    Uncle Chuck: too brusque again.
    Focus on the problems he has stated.
    Suggest, if possible, ways for him to make improved use or for him to contact the developers with concerns.

    EDIT: And, if by some chance, he is looking for sympathy or to stir up problems, which I hope is not the case, then by not posting more in this thread, things will begin to disappear.
    9617) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 555041)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    they'll figure out more than they should when it comes to where my computer is.


    Apparently I'm not smart enough at the moment to figure this out. So, without asking you to tell me, go ahead and see if you can post the same stuff about me. I've already openly declared where I live, so it's no biggie for me... I'm just curious if you can get the information or not...

    Brian


    Brian, no, I cannot see it. When I look at my info, I see name and then, following another link, I see domain name. I do not see any of that information available when I look at the computers under your account.
    So ... this suggests that only the admin and the individual user are seeing the individual's info. That's a little more comforting.
    Never did I suggest admin would abuse having this info.
    Indeed, I fault those that set up the network I am on for making it easier to determine more than just what the network is for those that CAN find the domain info.
    9618) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 555001)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Test post: [font=symbol]a[/font]

    Edit: Sweet, it worked the way in which I expected!
    9619) Message boards : Cafe SETI : A sugestion from Sheryl Crow (Message 554996)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    From Rolling Stone

    9620) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554922)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    With all due respect:

    Fine with me, but don't expect any anyone to take such open ended generic commentary seriously. Especially when you try to spin it into BOINC is some kind of massive security leak, when virtually every other web enabled application on the planet is capable of doing the same and in some cases far more 'damage'.


    With all due respect, there is no attempt to claim that BOINC has collected anything on me that is hasn't collected on anyone else. Just that if one read's closely enough and can add 2 and 2, they'll figure out more than they should when it comes to where my computer is.
    With all due respect, you should re-read this thread. You made a claim, rudely, I might add, trying to shoot down someone else's claim. I interjected by providing an example to make you re-consider your stand at least slightly. Instead, you have shifted your rudeness from the other person to me and suggest that I am overly concerned about internet security/privacy when in fact it is only a minor concern for me. This is what I get for interjecting and asking you to re-consider your stand?
    9621) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554883)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What a fully qualified domain name??!! Gee like that's hard to get.

    And even then the project doesn't give that up to just anybody casually browsing.


    It provides much more info than that to the wise.

    I'm curious.

    what else does it show?


    Obviously I am not going to give out that info if it has not already been figured out.


    This is still smacking of FUD:

    1.) The OP was referring to info which is only shown to the account holder, and is on record with project. No one from the general public has access to some of those fields, unless they have compromised your machine already or broken into the project servers. Neither of which would be BOINC's fault.

    2.) I can only assume you are taking exception to the project logging the local interface IP, DNS domain name, and the host name. Big deal, this is nothing that isn't available to anybody residing on your LAN (segment) anyway. Unless the addresses on your LAN are routeable so what. If the local IP's are NAT'ed private ones, that and $2.50 gets you a 'Great One' at Dunkin' Donuts. Unless of course you've done something dumb like leaving your router's remote management port enabled with a weak or default PW, or deliberately (inadvertantly) have misconfigured your firewall appliance. Again, nothing you can blame BOINC for here.

    So unless you're willing to cough up some specific detail, like I said 'Twilight Zone' stuff. The simple truth is to be able to connect the internet (or any network for that matter) you have to give up some information about your system, by definition. The corollary to that is you have to accept the increased risk which accompanies that connectivity. But again, that's nothing unique to BOINC.

    Alinator


    I don't care what you think.
    I know I can see there info that should not be determinable from it.
    Certainly I am not going to provide you the info.
    Call it what you like (FUD, Twilight Zone and other nebuluous b.s.) and try to make me look bad. All you'll have to do is read some of my other posts and you can tell I do not engage in the kind of crap you're insinuating here.
    This discussion is over.
    9622) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Other Side of the Coin (Message 554839)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You should simply ask what you want to know about.
    Maybe i could tell you.

    Its simply 30 - 50% quicker in completion.


    So some more direct questions would be, where are these apps obtained?
    What else is great about them besides speed?
    EDIT for additional question: Are these apps ones written by the BOINC developers, or at least authorized by them?
    9623) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The Other Side of the Coin (Message 554827)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Speaking of the optimized stuff, tell me a bit about the stuff, quickly. Make it for a guy who's reasonably intelligent but does not have a lot of time to look very deeply into this particular issue.
    9624) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554810)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning while showing a crap fuel consumption of 8.2 L/100 Km


    19.27 miles per gallon (for those of us in countries to stubborn to switch to metric)?!? Are you driving an S.U.V.? Sounds like you should enlist the aid of an S.V.U., because the auto company sure victimized you!
    9625) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554754)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    One last post before work. *sigh*


    You stop working?
    Whatever happened to no sleep, working much of the time and occasionally posting while working?
    I tell ya, these kids of today!!!
    9626) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Rocky's Cafe....Closed (Message 554746)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yo, Adrian!
    9627) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554744)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin, bust your brain some more! :)

    ??


    In the Brain Buster thread! :)
    9628) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554742)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Look more closely.

    And why may I ask aren't your other two computers crunching? ;)


    I did not see two others showing ... anymore.
    I removed BOINC from my laptop due to having several problems with the laptop, including the fan running constantly and running high. Lo and behold, when I removed BOINC, no such behavior. I figured why take chances, with all the other problems (adaptors and pins in DC jacks) that I have had?
    As for the desktop, it has hyper-threading and initially showed as if there were two CPUs, but I do not see that showing up anymore.
    9629) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554740)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What a fully qualified domain name??!! Gee like that's hard to get.

    And even then the project doesn't give that up to just anybody casually browsing.


    It provides much more info than that to the wise.

    I'm curious.

    what else does it show?


    Obviously I am not going to give out that info if it has not already been figured out.
    9630) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554738)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin, bust your brain some more! :)
    9631) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554707)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What a fully qualified domain name??!! Gee like that's hard to get.

    And even then the project doesn't give that up to just anybody casually browsing.


    It provides much more info than that to the wise.
    9632) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554693)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Look more closely.


    Does this tell you anything?

    Computer ID
    Click for more info Name Recent average credit Total credit CPU type Operating system Results Last contact
    1223029 mth-pe403G-pc01.central.cmich.local 298.03 153,773.64 GenuineIntel
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz Microsoft Windows XP
    Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 65 27 Apr 2007 2:45:47 UTC

    9633) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554683)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Brief win while staying up all night to work on the dissertation.
    9634) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554593)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    <snip>

    And I will not even get started with the amount of Information BOINC takes about the PC's it's running on. Is there anyway to get all of that info removed from the BOINC Databases?


    Scratch



    BOINC??!! What information? The only 'classified' information you have to give a project is an email address. Virtually everything else collected is 'public domain' or given out routinely in a standard browser header. The only exception I've seen is some path and environment information sent back in debug dumps. I would probably trust the projects not to do anything 'bad' with it than I would a commercial entity, and most people send this info back to them without a second thought for tech support.

    Alinator


    Does this tell you anything?

    Computer ID
    Click for more info Name Recent average credit Total credit CPU type Operating system Results Last contact
    1223029 mth-pe403G-pc01.central.cmich.local 298.03 153,773.64 GenuineIntel
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz Microsoft Windows XP
    Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 65 27 Apr 2007 2:45:47 UTC
    9635) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 554592)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    amoral:
    adj : without moral standards or principles; "a completely amoral person"
    [syn: unmoral] [ant: moral, immoral]

    -----------------

    Moby Thesaurus words for "amoral":
    conscienceless, corrupt, corrupted, criminal, crooked, dark,
    devious, dishonest, dishonorable, doubtful, dubious, evasive,
    felonious, fishy, fraudulent, ill-got, ill-gotten, immoral,
    indirect, insidious, nonmoral, not kosher, questionable, rotten,
    shady, shameless, shifty, sinister, slippery, steeped in vice,
    suspicious, tricky, unconscienced, unconscientious, unconscionable,
    underhand, underhanded, unethical, unmoral, unprincipled, unsavory,
    unscrupulous, unstraightforward, vice-laden, vice-prone, vicious,
    without remorse, without shame

    Take your pick... ;)


    Of all these, all I see is viciousness.
    I think you should concede you're wrong.
    9636) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 554551)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    .
    9637) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 554548)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I'm also in it for the hot nerdy chics....can't do without those.


    You go, boy!
    I'm sure many couples have come together via these message boards ... .

    NOT!!! ;)
    9638) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 554520)
    Posted 27 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey, didn't you say you missed this guy?

    People who preach that you don't need God to live a moral life while exhibiting extreme amoral behavior can be quite entertaining... ;)


    In the interest of equal time, and aside from the religious issues, all are capable of amoral behavior. The only example from the person you refer to is, as Es put it, bloody-mindedness ... making the same point over and over, being rude to people who disagree with him on ONE issue, and rarely conceding a point. (Only the one in bold comes anywhere close to amorality.) He has also provided examples that, if true, do indicate guidance from some moral compass.


    Sarge, perhaps if you rethought this entire post of yours, checked your definitions, reexamined your concepts and reposted it it would make sense.

    'amoral'? Probably here you mean 'immoral'. Once you read through it I think you'll easily detect its flaws. I won't rewrite it for you of course.


    The word amoral was initially used by Jeffrey. It does appear either he used it incorrectly or I misunderstood his intent.
    To be amoral is to be essentially neutral, while to be immoral is to act in ways essentially directly opposite with commonly and traditionally held principles.
    Either Jeffrey had these reversed or I misunderstood his intent, and either way I perpetuated or began the mis-use/reversal.
    9639) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 554488)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The Goal of Science is understanding lawful relations among natural phenomena.
    Religion is a way of life within a larger framework of meaning."
    (Ian Barbour, "Religion and Science," pg. 204)


    Saw that in the other thread.
    Careful, when I do posts like that, repeating in a few threads, people get up in arms and mods delete all or all but one of the posts.
    9640) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread [9] - CLOSED (Message 554479)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Jeffrey, didn't you say you missed this guy?

    People who preach that you don't need God to live a moral life while exhibiting extreme amoral behavior can be quite entertaining... ;)


    In the interest of equal time, and aside from the religious issues, all are capable of amoral behavior. The only example from the person you refer to is, as Es put it, bloody-mindedness ... making the same point over and over, being rude to people who disagree with him on ONE issue, and rarely conceding a point. (Only the one in bold comes anywhere close to amorality.) He has also provided examples that, if true, do indicate guidance from some moral compass.
    9641) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 554446)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yes, part of it is the science of distributed computing overall, I guess. Is this perhaps a little more transparent and understandable than the science of the particular projects.
    9642) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Does ANYONE like this BOINC garbage.....?!?!? (Message 554375)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep,

    It's been a real long time since I gave up on SETI due to the BOINC thing. As to why am I bringing up the whole BOINC issue so long after the fact, well I was asked to give it another go from the Seti/BOINC team. Figured what the heck.

    Still I'm afraid this is not going to last long. Not impressed with the whole 'Credit' thing, I really enjoyed the whole "Work Unit" concept of it all, and I'm not seeing them increment any more. So to be honest I'm probably gonna remove BOINC this weekend (Sad as it seems) It's just not SETI@Home anymore.


    Scratch


    I find both workunits and credits irrelevant and one primary reason for this is that if ET is out there, broadcasting and SETI picks it up, then honors will go to the ones SETI recognizes/announces as having crunched the particular set of data. (And that's assuming they get a lot of analysis done at some point.) Therefore, all your credit, regardless of how it is computed, will not get you a shred of recognition from the world at large.
    9643) Message boards : Cafe SETI : . . . How Many of You are @ SETI for thE SciEnCE ? (Message 554370)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    What other reason would there be?
    The pretty screen-savers?
    Or, you could be asking about why we came to the message boards. For that, I will say it is both for socialization and discussion of academic matters.
    However, in light of ongoing discussions here and recent revivals, let's stick for the moment to "why we crunch."
    As many of you know, I am engaged in research. I am also somewhat to fairly well versed in other things. However, I must ultimately say, as I have pointed out before, it is absolutely impossible for any one person to go back and verify every experiment in the areas they are interested in. If they research, they carve a few niches and remain informed about a few others. They cannot be jack-of-all-trades.
    What I find most irritating is people that either are researchers that do not provide a shred of background/evidence into what it is they work on and so we do not know if they can speak as authorities, or arm-chair vicarious scientists through reading that also act as if they are authorities. (Reading outside one's area is fine. Acting as if you know more than you do and maligning others is not.)
    9644) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 554229)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    @Sarge: After learned of this Huron formula just today, I give up to prove it. I fear I either forgot it entirely, or I never had it when I was in school.

    But I'm willing to take the next challenge:
    Two poles are perpendicular to the ground, set a certain distance apart. The top of each pole is connected to the ground by a wire. The two wires meet on the ground somewhere in between the two poles. Where should the point of meeting be in order to minimize the amount of wire used? (You may assume the ground between the two poles is a line segment.)

    Question: These poles, are they supposed to have the same height?


    Good question, Thorin.
    The answer is, you get to choose.
    See Georg Polya's (1945) "How to Solve It."

    Regarding Heron's Formula:





    9645) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 554201)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Oh, crap, sorry. Just send to me:
    ################### at hotmail.com

    I don't care who knows, that's just a spam filter anyway.


    Maybe you should, considering the overblown crap of last week.
    9646) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Redheads ONLY. (Message 554180)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Bump!
    9647) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 554174)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Thorin:

    Well, the issue wasn't the label for area. We're used to A for area in the U.S.
    What I was trying to clarify was whether you were investigating Angle-Angle-Side or Angle-Side-Angle and I guess you were considering the latter.

    I get the same thing you do for Angle-Side-Angle, but I would re-write alpha as 180-(beta+gamma) so that it is only expressed in terms of the assumed measurements.
    If you worked this out yourself, then I am pleased that you used your solution for Angle-Side-Angle to solve Angle-Angle-Side, rather than go back to putting the A-A-S question in terms of A = (1/2)bh (area of a triangle formula w/ the usual letters used here).
    So, what you did was called "folding back," meaning you let your work on the first become a piece of core knowledge rather than going back to only what had been previously your core knowledge.

    Also, I was hoping outside the U.S. that more people knew about Heron's Formula for computing the area of a triangle just from knowing the lengths of the sides.
    See if you can develop it, and then see my posts on medians, angle bisectors and altitudes. :)

    Or any of the others I posted besides the area of a triangle question.
    9648) Message boards : Cafe SETI : TLPTPW#29 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 553989)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Briefly winning while debating the virtues of sleep versus the virtues of writing more in this chapter of my dissertation.
    9649) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LMAO!!!!! (Message 553916)
    Posted 26 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Uncle chuck. would you like to exchange emails/ contact info?


    Awww, that's cute!
    9650) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LMAO!!!!! (Message 553648)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Avatars are atavistic.
    9651) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imus (Message 553636)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    hEar! hEar!!!


    'Arf!
    9652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 553629)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I don't know a lot about the Heron formula.
    But I know, the area of any given triangle is base*height divided by 2 (A= 1/2 * g*h).

    If I have a triangle A, B, C, with the two sides ("a" and "b") given instead of base (="c") and height (="h"), and the angle between these sides (GAMMA), then the formula for computing the area is A = 1/2*a*b*sin(GAMMA).

    And for example: if b is not given, but one of the other angles, say ALPHA instead, you can find out BETA (= 180° - GAMMA - ALPHA), and can use the sinus formula to find out "b":
    a/sin(ALPHA) = b/sin(BETA) ----> b = a*sin(BETA)/sin(ALPHA)

    So, the area A will be: A = (a^2)*sin(ALPHA)*sin(GAMMA)/(2*sin(BETA))

    Is this okay, or is it too low level?


    Unless I am reading it too quickly, your first situation, which we can call Side-Angle-Side, is correct. The "level" is fine, unless you want to look back at it and perhaps provide a different, more efficient or more elegant solution. (I make no claims as to whether such another solution exists.)
    As for the second, I think we need to consider whether the side is included between the angles (Angle-Side-Angle) or not (Angle-Angle-Side). If you think such distinctions are not needed, please explain why and I will try to read more slowly next time. :)
    9653) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imus (Message 553617)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I overheard, during the whole Imus debacle, some reporter or talk show host commenting that within a week or two we'd be on to discussing something else. The events at Virginia Tech certainly shifted attention. How much are people discussing Imus now?

    (P.S. - one of the places I applied to for a professor position was VT. By the time I'd applied, though, they'd already interviewed some people and soon after had made their hiring decision.)


    SargE - iT's a good thing thaT ya didn't makE iT thErE . . . ya might bE onE of thE . . . arghhh!!! don'T vant ta go thErE . . . horriblE thought . . .

    so glad yEr 'ErE SIR!!!

    ;O



    I wouldn't have started until next fall, anyway, had I interviewed there and been offered the position.
    9654) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LMAO!!!!! (Message 553575)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    "The moderator gave this explanation to why your post was moderated:
    Flame/hate."


    You been out and about and a hatin' again?


    Apparently lil Al has been around a while, but I have no knowledge of lil Al as a playa hata.
    9655) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Imus (Message 553574)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    I overheard, during the whole Imus debacle, some reporter or talk show host commenting that within a week or two we'd be on to discussing something else. The events at Virginia Tech certainly shifted attention. How much are people discussing Imus now?

    (P.S. - one of the places I applied to for a professor position was VT. By the time I'd applied, though, they'd already interviewed some people and soon after had made their hiring decision.)
    9656) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LMAO!!!!! (Message 553569)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    You've been moderated?!?

    Yep... ;)


    Well, I'll be.
    9657) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LMAO!!!!! (Message 553536)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    The moderator gave this explanation to why your post was moderated:
    Off topic for this thread.

    Followed by a more in depth explanation...

    And, well, they were right... I should not have posted it... ;)


    You've been moderated?!?
    9658) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 553511)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:


    All true, good spot! well looking closer....


    Alright, I think , should get area of triangle, from (area of) median triangle * 4/3. six inner triangles appear equal in area. so use known 1/3 & 2/3 median lengths and one sixth total area to determine ... mental block.... :S .... Ooh treat as a base & height of a right triangle and use pythag to determine third side ... then add em up (six of them )

    any closer ? appears to work (on my dodgy sketches )


    If the median triangle is defined as the triangle with side lengths equal to the lengths of the medians of the original triangle, then, yes, if memory serves me correctly the area of the original triangle = (4/3) * the area of the median triangle. So, just apply Heron's Formula to get the area of the median triangle and multiply by 4/3.

    The things to check, then, are that you actually get a unique triangle (up to isomorphism) when talking about a median triangle and that area of the original triangle = (4/3) * the area of the median triangle.

    I don't recall a comparison of the areas of the six inner triangles.
    9659) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Brain busters (Message 553450)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Fair enough! a rough sketch made it much easier. add up bases of inner right triangles created by the medians ( calculated from known 2/3 & 1/3 medians, using pythagoras' ), LOL avoiding trig where possible is a good thing :D


    From the sounds of it, you may have not made your sketch look general enough and it led you to assume something you shouldn't. (Euclid was also guilty of this in a small number of cases.)

    If your sketch looked isosceles or equilateral, then some or all medians will be also altitudes. In the general case, medians are, of course, something altogether different. Thus, the sub-triangles are not going to be right triangles in general.
    9660) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553447)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Dela-where?


    LOL!

    The first of the original 13 colonies. The first state to become a state!

    But you already know that don't ya? :)


    I probably had that information in my memory at some point.
    But, I was making a joke. A "Wayne's World" reference.
    9661) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553406)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    CR is on Eastern.


    Delaware most of my life.


    Dela-where?
    9662) Message boards : Cafe SETI : LPTPW#28 - CLOSED! CLOSED! CLOSED! (Message 553275)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Winning


    Nope.
    9663) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553273)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    YO!
    11:04 PM


    Also Germany or in the same time zone, lil Al?
    9664) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553272)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Smoking a cigarette.

    16.31


    Champ is 2 hours ahead of UTC (which I think used to be GMT?) --- Germany?
    9665) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553270)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:

    Start posting links to your fave profiles. When you get around to last year's threads necromance a few of those. That usually stirs the critters out from under the brushpiles.
    0058


    No critter stirring please. It's nice and calm in here. :)

    1:52


    CR is on Eastern.
    9666) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553268)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Yep, street thugs and prostitutes...

    0405


    Crooks and hos


    A/C is on Eastern.
    9667) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553264)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    Sitting here wishing I could adopt that cat in England that hops on the local bus in the mornings and gets off at the next stop where the fish n chips shop is...

    0205


    R/B is 4 hours behind UTC. Eastern Time.
    9668) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Time Check (Message 553262)
    Posted 25 Apr 2007 by Profile Sarge
    Post:
    22° C (72° F) at 22:22...Went for a walk earlier this evening.


    Daniel Michel is 5 hours behind UTC (Central Time), while Labbie is on Mountain Time.


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