21) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Carl Sagan (Message 56427) Posted 21 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: You're welcome. And very thoughtful of you posting those handsome pictures of Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan. Thank You Now Please, let's all post articles and pictures and memories of Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan. Sir Ulli and Bruno Moretti provided this thread with a good start. Let's keep it going. There must be more memories and stories to pass along about how we were first introduced to the cosmos by him and his books and television series and appearances. Sic itur ad astra

22) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Carl Sagan (Message 56270) Posted 21 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: December 21, 1996 Carl Sagan, an Astronomer Who Excelled at Popularizing Science Carl Sagan, an astronomer who became one of the nation's best-known scientists by enthusiastically conveying the wonders of the universe to millions of people on television and in books, died yesterday at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle. He was 62 and lived in Ithaca, N.Y.

23) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Richard Feynman, The Nobel Prize, Physics 1965 (Message 55935) Posted 20 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: There were three winners for the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1965: Sin-Itiro Tomonaga, Julian Schwinger, and Richard P. Feynman. Here is the presentation speech given by Professor Ivar Waller, member of the Nobel Committee for Physics. The speech begins with these remarks: "The electrons of an atom move according to the laws of quantum mechanics established in 1925 and the next following years. For the hydrogen atom, which has only one electron and consequently is the simplest atom to investigate theoretically, the calculation of the motion of the electron in the electric field of the nucleus led to results of such accuracy that 20 years elapsed until any error of the theory could be found experimentally..."

24) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Favourite food? (Message 53686) Posted 13 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Rachel, Tea would not be the beverage!...ugh...But the foods, there are so many I do not eat because of gout. But one allowed sandwich that came to mind is a Bagel, cut, lightly smeared with cream cheese, slices of fresh tomato so that the juice of it soaks into the bagel, lox, lettuce, some sweet onion. In other words, a bagel, lox, and cream cheese! Maybe some orange juice or milk. Or a thick juicy filet mignon. Either one... Or swordfish steak...or...or...M&M peanuts! :-) (-:

25) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The "big bang didn't happen" thread. (Message 51746) Posted 6 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: In response to message 51714 "Hi Charles, Likely, the theorists mentioned in the article are awaiting completion of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN. Might be up and running in 2007. Can't wait. Kinda makes me want to live a lot longer than I'm entitled to, just to see what happens. Robert" .......................... Don't we all Doctor, don't we all...but, AY, THERE'S THE RUB.....HAMLET .......................... I Wish I Was Eighteen Again by Ray Price Oh I wish I was eighteen again And going where I've never been Now old folks and old oaks Standing tall, just pretend I wish I was eighteen again .....

26) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 51716) Posted 6 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: > http://www.theregister.com/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/ > > Excerpt: > "By Lucy Sherriff > Published Monday 15th November 2004 15:57 GMT > > A theoretical physicist at the University of Nevada has published a paper > alleging that Einstein did not derive the gravitational field equations at the > heart of the General Theory of Relativity, and might in fact have copied key > equations from fellow physicist David Hilbert. ..." > > Interesting article. > > AIP home advanced search home contact us sitemap Physics News Update Number 10 (Story #2), November 27, 1990 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein AFTER 75 YEARS GENERAL RELATIVITY is still alive and well. Clifford M. Will of Washington University (314-889-6244) reviews the many experimental tests of Albert Einstein's theory, from early measurements of the advance of Mercury's perihelion and the Sun's deflection of starlight, to today's observations of binary pulsars and the search for gravity waves, and finds "GR" to be as valid as ever. (Science, November 9, 1990.)

27) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The "big bang didn't happen" thread. (Message 51714) Posted 6 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: AIP home advanced search home contact us sitemap Physics News Update Number 5 (Story #4), October 18, 1990 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein THE SUPERSTRING THEORY ,sometimes referred to as the "theory of everything" since it apparently unifies all four known forces into a single framework, has been criticized on the grounds that it is not testable. Now theorists Dimitri Nanopoulos of Texas A&M University and John Ellis of the CERN laboratory in Geneva, Switzerland assert that their version of the theory is open to experimental verification. In particular, they claim that soon they may be able to calculate the mass of neutrinos, or the lifetime of protons; they may be able to predict the existence of new particles not yet observed, including a new class of non-radiating particles, "cryptons," which, if they exist, might account for some of the "missing mass" in the universe. (Science News, October 13, 1990; Nanopoulos: 409-845-7790.)

28) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 51707) Posted 6 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Not to get too far off the subject of Einstein per se, but this is really good Science: "Boy are we havin'fun..." You wanna have some fun? For starters here are the closing lines of a lecture given by Philip Morrison, October 6, 1960 at the Philosophical Society of Washington: "I should like to close with an early reference to these ways of thought. Teng Mu, a scholar of the Sung Dynasty in China, wrote this. I cannot close more fittingly than by reproducing the words now seven hundred years old, of a man who thought as we think, but who lacked the technical capability to verify in real life what his imagination was capable of foreseeing: Empty space is like a kingdom, and earth and sky are no more than a single individual person in that kingdom. Upon one tree are many fruits, and in one kingdom there are many people. How unreasonable it would be to suppose that, besides the earth and the sky which we can see, there are no other skies and no other earths." And there are a lot more names you'll recognize where that came from. Here's a link, see for yourselves. Here is the link Philosophical Society of Washington

29) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The "big bang didn't happen" thread. (Message 51426) Posted 4 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: The Big Bang Never Happened! or, Did The Big Bang Happen? or, Will we Ever Know with Ceratinty? I have no idea, no answer to any of these questions. But I do know that they are all wonderful 'thought problems' as Einstein would call them. I am no phycisist, 'In French It's Physicien' as Little Sun said. Wonderful word. Anyway, the Big Bang, what a terrific thought to try to 'wrap ones mind around'. Petit Soleil 'The Big Bang is nothing more then the moment where we can define the notion of space and time. It is our space and time horizon, no one can see how the universe was before or if this event is really the beginning of our universe. Was there something before? Nobody knows.' Great thought point. And wonderful conclusion, 'Nobody knows.' And it leaves us all, even the most brilliant physicist, looking to the possible one who does know, the one who does not 'play dice with the universe'. Will we ever, ever know with certainty? 'Nobody knows.' But as thoughtful beings we will continue to question because this is where thousands of years of evolution has brought us. I suppose all here have read most of the same books, magazines, articles, seen the same tv shows, internet sites, and so on. We have mostly the same information base and that is why we are here reading this thread and some of the rest of these threads and will continue to mine every bit of information we can. And why the physicists and scientists will continue to do as they do: We want the truth, We CAN handle the truth if/when it is finally discovered. And before it is finally discovered, if we are wise enough to recognize it, we will feast on every small crumb that falls from the table or that we ourselves can come up with in our discussions with each other. These threads are wonderful ... 'water coolers' around which to talk, the more refreshing, thoughtful ones. Me, I'm wanting for the HST to get updated, fixed, more far sighted, so we can see the Face of The Creator up close and personal, if - will stand still for a portrait, and if we are intelligent enough to understand what we are seeing. Please smile and say, 'I Am that I Am'(I love that phrase. What writing!).

30) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 50669) Posted 2 Dec 2004 by K3UZZ Post: > It wasn't a complaint! I was just... well... it was a case of information > saturation - Not intended as a complaint!! EDIT: Link has been set in place. Sorry for those with ADD and can not read long articles! > And as an addition to newyork's 49970... > Woah! You solved the riddle! Give K3UZZ a cigar! > EDIT: Do you know there are those who never learned that New York was settled by the Dutch as New Amsterdam! A good CIGAR is a SMOKE!

31) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 50166) Posted 30 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Guess I should extend a bit of an 'apologia' (justification)for that long read. It was not intended as rant. It was found here in the internet and contained so many useful bits of historical data that I could not resist. And as an addition to newyork's 49970, I remember seeing a NOVA broadcast about Grace Murray Hopper whereon she displayed a length of what looked like mag tape to show the distance that perhaps light traveles in a second? But I do remember she was there to 'debug'a problem by removing a moth from a unit and hence the term we still use, to debug a problem. And tidbits to so many others including my favorite, Richard Feynman. If you have seen any of the Nova hours about him or read any of the books by and about him, you'll understand he was no dried up old physicist but a guy and a teacher everyone wanted to hang with. 'So join Team: Richard Feynman' which was started to keep his name visible to members of SETI. *Sorry I don't get the nack of copying the URL, but if you google "Philosophical Society of Washington/Retiring President's Lecture"... *EDIT: Link has been set in place. Chuck

32) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 49981) Posted 29 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Philosophical Society of Washington Retiring President's Lecture 14 January 2000 © Copyright 2000, John S. Garavelli Comments welcomed. [Slides are displayed in a single, separate window that will not return to this window. Slides 37, 51 and 54 were omitted.] [Slide 1] When I knew two years ago that I was probably going to be giving the Retiring President's Address, I started asking people what aspect of my work in the Protein Sequence Database they would be most interested in hearing about. Their responses made me decide to talk about something else. During the year 1900 various members of the Philosophical Society of Washington prepared reports on developments in the fields of science in which they had expertise. Most of these were rather dry reports on geology and geography, so I thought I would look at a very influential speech given in 1900 by [Slide 2] David Hilbert. Hilbert, born, educated and then teaching at Königsberg, first came to international prominence in 1888 when he produced a proof of the general form of Gordan's Theorem in the field of algebraic invariants. Hilbert's characteristic existence proof, a demonstration that a certain solution logically must exist without actually producing an explicit solution, established him as an innovative thinker who would rely on formal rules to obtain elegant results rather than laboriously search for complicated results embedded in elaborate calculations. Paul Gordan himself was so disappointed in this Alexandrian solution of the Gordian knot that he declared, "Das ist nicht Mathematik. Das ist Theologie!" The complete lecture can be found here

33) Message boards : SETI@home Science : "Was Einstein a Plagiarist?" (Message 49541) Posted 27 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Found after what is posted below this one: "David Hilbert, great mathematician Hilbert was, with Poincaré, the leading mathematician of his day. All quantum physicists need Hilbert space. Hilbert also contributed to other areas of theoretical physics, for example, by suggesting an action principle from which Einstein's equations of general relativity could be derived. Recent research into the question of whether Einstein saw the proofs of Hilbert's paper before modifying his equations of motion to include the term 1/2 R g{mu,nu} have been resolved. John Stachel (Boston University, Center of Einstein Studies) has copies of documents that show the printer's proofs of Hilbert's article (published in March, 1916) were sent to Hilbert by the publishers on 6 Dec 1915, two weeks after Einstein had submitted his papers with the correct equations of GR. Moreover, the proofs of Hilbert's paper differ substantially from the published version, and do not contain the equations of Einstein, though they do propose a covariant action principle. Go to my HOME PAGE for more links. © by Ray Streater 8/8/00." Einstein never kept secret that he required some help with the mathematical formulas. I've read that in several of his bios and at least one of his autobios. This I found on the web: In 1903 Einstein married a former classmate, Maria Maric, though his parents disapproved. They'd had a daughter Liserl in 1902, but she was given up for adoption. They later had two sons. 1905 was a huge year for Einstein. He published five papers in the German Yearbook of Physics, three or them groundbreaking. The first was on the motion of particles suspended in liquid. He developed a mathematical formula to explain that the visible motion of the particles was due to the invisible motion of the molecules of the liquid. In 1914, Einstein was in Berlin. War broke out, and his wife and two sons returned to Switzerland. The couple's relationship had grown increasingly distant, and after the war the two were never reunited. They officially divorced in 1919. Some historians now believe that Maria Maric was instrumental in Einstein's early work, especially the mathematical calculations. In his letters to her he mentioned "our papers," and in one even wrote, "How happy and proud I will be when both of us together will have brought our work on relative motion to a successful end." As he gained greater prestige and scientific positions, she gained greater household responsibilities and their collaboration ended. When he received the Nobel Prize, however, Einstein gave the cash award to Maria Maric. Soon after they divorced.

34) Message boards : SETI@home Science : The 1965 (Message 49534) Posted 27 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: There were three winners for the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1965: Sin-Itiro Tomonaga, Julian Schwinger, and Richard P. Feynman. Here is the presentation speech given by Professor Ivar Waller, member of the Nobel Committee for Physics. The speech begins with these remarks: "The electrons of an atom move according to the laws of quantum mechanics established in 1925 and the next following years. For the hydrogen atom, which has only one electron and consequently is the simplest atom to investigate theoretically, the calculation of the motion of the electron in the electric field of the nucleus led to results of such accuracy that 20 years elapsed until any error of the theory could be found experimentally..."

35) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI Spy: Roelof rest in peace (Message 48326) Posted 21 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Would that you could have stayed longer for your loved ones and for the SETI family who still enjoy your good works. Listen to all the praise we have for you Roelof. You did good. All heart felt wishes for you. We will miss your good example. Continue giving to those who know best the happiness in your memories.

36) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread - CLOSED (Message 43650) Posted 6 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: > >>(BTW were you an Admiral?) > >No...I rose to the rank of S1c, twice.> > > A more modest reply I've never read. #4 is clear, Captain.

37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The best Sci fi film ever made? (Message 43637) Posted 6 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: Yes, the 1982 John Carpenter 'The Thing'(the one with Kurt Russell)is a trerific sci/fi movie. But I had to mention the 1951 Howard Hawkes original version because it left quite an impression on me. We went to see it when it was new in the theater, when we were told Not to go to that movie but to the one across the street because mother knew 'The Thing'was a scarey movie. Sooo, we all went to see it. I sat down, started watching, the warm blanket was placed on the block of ice, then as I remembered the scene, something under the blanket started to move. The next thing to move was me! Out of the theater! It was about 25 years until I saw the entire movie. It was not all that scarey after all. Now, I think Scarey was...'Night of The Living Dead',...eh? Funny was...the original 'Little Shop of Horrors',...eh?

38) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The best Sci fi film ever made? (Message 43401) Posted 6 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: > > Here's my Top Three > > > > > > War of the Worlds. > > > > Blade Runner. > > > > The Thing. (the one with Kurt Russell) > > > > Own The Thing with Kurt on dvd.It's very good. > Blade Runner, yes. The Thing, but the original with James Arnes XXThe original Flash Gordon series on TV with Buster Crabbe...oh, y'all too young to have seen that oneXX Replace with: Silent Running

39) Message boards : Politics : Religious Thread - CLOSED (Message 43266) Posted 5 Nov 2004 by K3UZZ Post: I've been following this terrific thread since the begining. Nice stuff. We have the two great questions here: Does E.T. exist and will we find 'it'? What is your Religious Belief? Terrific stuff. Today I read with great interest Misfit's missives stating a thought I never thought anyone else ever had. Let me post it here: What I think about our western religion is quite easy to understand. Like most things surrounding all of us right now, it is man-made and plastic (is that redundant?). Some think the laws and the teachings in the bible are divinely inspired. Others think the old book is nothing but a bunch of stories collected a very long time ago. Some people think they do not need anything from that book, that they need nothing beyond themselves. The common quality of being human is that we all think, eventually. That is perhaps the wonder of being human, the ability to Think and decide for ourselves. What greater gift is there? With it, there is the SETI, for instance. Some time ago I gave myself a 'thought problem': How could we get Evolutionists and Creationists to start a more reasonable dialogue on how the universe and life came to be. It was just a thought, but here, briefly, is how it turned out: When I hear or read about the big-bang theory I soon thereafter think of the Genesis. To me the two could be linked. The creator could well have done the one and then the other, in just a few 'days'. The big bang, then evolution, then the Law as it is told in the old bible. Only problem is that the creator left out the part between the big-bang and Genesis because what would people then have known about moving continents and dinosaurs and all the other stuff before that modern human couple, Adam and Eve, and their offspring. But if that is what happened then I think there was a reason the creator left out those little details: He knew that with the brain developing in humankind and its ability to grow and think and reason and to question more and with logic, humankind would eventually get to where we are today and to where we will be tomorrow: From venturing forth on the open savannas standing upright in search of food; to gaining the garden of Eden; to replacing fear with religion; to walking on the moon; to the imminent creation of our own kind in a sterile laboratory; to... I think religion is a wonderful thing, a worthy discipline to keep the mind active and, before the printing press and TV, when religion consisted of oral stories and laws, a way to pass the history of the community from one generation to the next. The philosophy of religion makes for a good study for a learned lifetime. I think that is an excellent approach to the subject. But religion has become an opiate to some, something that dulls the senses (being replaced today by television). One should not accept either blindly, on Faith alone. When discussing religion with someone, and they answer with that word, I find the discussion has brick walled. Question, always Question, and ask Why. I had to throw the next line in because perhaps this could have been something that happened during one hour of one of those 'days': "For 300 million years, nothing happened," explains Windhorst, the Arizona State University astronomer. "The universe is just sitting there. Then all of a sudden the first stars began to shine." The New History of Black Holes: 'Co-evolution' Dramatically Alters Dark Reputation By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer Posted: 07:00 am ET 28 January 2003 The Talmud tells that a gentile came to Rabbi Hillel saying that he would convert to Judaism if Hillel could teach him the whole Torah in the time that he could stand on one foot. Hillel converted the gentile by telling him, "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it." Abraham, the Buddha, Jesus, wonderful teachers. The Beatitudes and his sermon on the mount. Absolutely terrific. Misfit's is a bit more scientific or well thought out, but the same basis, I think.

40) Message boards : Cafe SETI : CLOSED (Message 39762) Posted 24 Oct 2004 by K3UZZ Post: (1)And Notre Dame fans, half time and ND is ahead 20 to 3 over Boston College. Good throwing by Brady Quinn in the half. Oh No! Can not belive ND lost by ONE POINT to Boston College! When will Quinn learn to throw TO his receivers instead of over their heads? (2)Philadelphia teams, sometimes will get to the finals, but will always find a way to blow it there. Ok, the Flyers won two Stanley Cups in the early '70s, but did not get the HatTrick! (3)Soccer is a real game of endurance. No time outs. Player gets hurt, he has to endure. No time out. Liking the game more and more. (4)And Basketball. Endurance. (5)Has not been a good baseball team since Mr. Mack's Athletics left Philadelphia. (6)Now that the baseball season is over, and there is no hockey season, and Shaqu has left LA...and Phil Jackson...and will Carl Malone be back... There is, however, this World Championship Heavy Weight Bout on November 2nd coming up...but I digress...

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