Posts by Robert Gammon
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News :
Free Speech and SETI@home
(Message 1870123)
Posted 29 May 2017 by  Robert Gammon
Post: Very Very critical of the recent protests at UCB after the campus has previously led the nation in Free Speech and thought. It is still the duty of the administration to expose students to a wide variety of speakers to help the students to think well and act well after graduation. Listening to ONLY those speakers that the Students agree with IS NOT FREE SPEECH. From Robert Gammon |
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News :
Free Speech and SETI@home
(Message 1864256)
Posted 28 Apr 2017 by Robert Gammon
Post: I believe that the Chancellor is attempting to broaden the experience of the students and challenge them to REALLY think about what they believe in so that when they leave the University they will not be necessarily tied to one belief system. "Liberal Fascism" is a contradiction in terms and should no be used to belittle someone's expressed views. |
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Technical News :
Maxed (Dec 16 2010)
(Message 1058064)
Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: I like the ideas recently espoused concerning fairness. The question is how to implement. When work unit production/availability is low, limit each responder to 1 WU (regular or Astro). When work unit has been returned to normal, but only for a short while, limit each responder to 1 days worth (regular or AP) As workflow returns to normal, and the servers are normal, increase the number of WU's allowed by one day's worth for each day of uptime on the servers. And yes absolutely, the reputation of the project is that it allows people from all over the world to participate so long as they have a computer that meets the minimal requirements and an internet connection. 150,000 users who turn in 1 WU per day is a POWERFUL amount of work. 10 users who turn in 1,000 WUs a day are piddling by comparison |
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Number crunching :
Limiting users
(Message 1057968)
Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: Yes but lots of folks appear to grab anywhere from 100 to 500 WUs and SIT on them taking 4 weeks or longer to process them I for one, have no problem with those that have the resources to process 1000 WUs a day, accurately and turn them back in 24 hours after receiving. There are far too many who download 100 or more and take forever to return them, that is my only complaint If you have hardware that can process 1000 per day, GREAT. Just so long as you play fair with the rest of us, and let us get a few of the WUs in the pool. To save bandwidth, I do not refresh my connection to the server every 2 minutes looking for more WUs |
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Number crunching :
Limiting users
(Message 1057966)
Posted 20 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: Hey on this machine Milkyway report 58 hours runtime when it downloads, actuals come in at 32 hours approx, so 6 WUs limit is not bad Dual Intel CPU 2.3GHz no Nvidia card |
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Technical News :
Maxed (Dec 16 2010)
(Message 1057959)
Posted 19 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: In large cities, choice of ISP is difficult as there are so many offerings Not all of us live in large cities. so we may be stuck with either Dialup, Satellite or Packet radio (if offered) Slightly closer to a town and we may add Cable to the mix, and still closer, DSL or Uverse if offered The plethora appears to occur when local populations exceed roughly 150,000 The wealth of America is unevenly spread |
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Technical News :
Maxed (Dec 16 2010)
(Message 1057908)
Posted 19 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: Fairness lies in the eye of the beholder. I see the rationale for having as much seti work as your machine can handle, as the seti folks have had extended downtime over the last several months. High RAC, low RAC, that all depends on just how many computers you can employ and the relative hotness of each of the machines. Some of us only have one computer, and that one is several years old. If the High RAC users get all the WUs then we can be shut out. A slightly better approach would reward users who consistently turn in units that pass validation, turn them in on time, and grade higher for short turn around time. People who fail to turn in units on time get throttled on how many work units they have at one time. People who have compute errors on their work get limited on how many WUs can be outstanding at one time. People who turn in work units well inside the time limit (lets assume that they return them inside 5 days, but sysadmin makes the decision) get rewarded with more WUs. |
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Technical News :
Maxed (Dec 16 2010)
(Message 1057826)
Posted 19 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: I am not sure how this could be done, but some of us ache for a fairness doctrine as applied to downloaded WUs. While the system was up for the last couple of weeks, I managed to snag 2 Astropulse and 8-9 Seti Enhanced WUs. Now the my last 6 Seti enhanced WUs are Pending Validation as the second computer is one of the machines that downloads 4-10 WUs per day. Granted most of them get returned inside the window of time, but still, I turn them around in 2 days, and wait 3-6 weeks for validation to happen. Seti is out of WUs now so my Boinc is working on other projects JUST to stay busy |
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Message boards :
News :
SETI@home is back online
(Message 1055455)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: Sad to say, I FAILED to notice that the date/time stamp was OLD when I looked at server status. Sighh I ramped up BAM! to now collect up to 5 days of work when the team gets things working again rgammon51 |
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Message boards :
News :
SETI@home is back online
(Message 1055430)
Posted 12 Dec 2010 by Robert Gammon
Post: It is interesting, to say the least, that my BOINC client, 6.10.58 keeps asking the servers for work, and the consistent reply is no work available at a time when the server status page shows over 240,000 Seti Enhanced WUs ready to download. Also curious that while i struggle to get a WU to work on, two WU's that I did manage to get and turn in over the last few days are stuck waiting on two different BOINC clients that have backlogs of well over 60 WU's to process. so back online, at least to me, seems to be a myth. rgammon51 |
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Technical News :
Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)
(Message 797771)
Posted 14 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: I was allowed to get 10 wus tuesday early. However, uploads are still not allowed, uploads timeout with Access to refer site succeeded, project servers may be down. This has been going on for the last 24 hours. Access for me is twice a day for 45 minutes at a pop. |
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Technical News :
Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)
(Message 796852)
Posted 12 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: Looks like they finally got in there and kicked the right box. At least I was able to upload all my finished work units just now on my work laptop, with a little manual coaxing by me. Well, early this morning, before they got to work for the Tuesday shutdown, I managed to upload a couple of WUs, and downloaded 10 more, in spite of Server Status saying 2 WUs queued for download. So they were putting out new WUs yesterday and this morning, just not a flood of them. Tight scheduling deadlines on WU's downloaded too, BOINC says "Running, high priority" for Wus with a deadline of 8/19 |
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Technical News :
Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)
(Message 796533)
Posted 11 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: Looks like they finally got in there and kicked the right box. At least I was able to upload all my finished work units just now on my work laptop, with a little manual coaxing by me. the home page says wait for assimilate, validate, purge to clear first. They will hold off more work til this calms somewhat. Lots of WUs to upload, validate, assimilate, purge first. |
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Technical News :
Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)
(Message 796418)
Posted 11 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: Looks like they finally got in there and kicked the right box. At least I was able to upload all my finished work units just now on my work laptop, with a little manual coaxing by me. The upload process has been BUSY, almost 200,000 WUs uploaded in the last hour alone. The backend processes have noticed that quorums have been achieved with many workunits, and are processsing them out to the database. They may have to wait until tomorrow to let things settle down after a very busy afternoon letting things get caught back up. After all, there are over 3M WUs out there, and there must be a large fraction of them ready to be uploaded, much much more than this first 200,000 (5 of which were mine). |
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Technical News :
Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008)
(Message 795916)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: Note posted to home page. Upload server not working (bruno). This server runs several critical processes, Server status showed up, but we have all observed not. There have been several notes since the first of the month that bandwidth usage is WAY up. So we wait for news tomorrow. When it comes back up, the flood of backlogged work will likely give us spotty results on uploads for quite some time, perhaps 2-4 days before it all gets straightened out. This person could be surprised, of course, and the backlog gets cleared before the Tuesday regular outage |
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Technical News :
Ups and Downs (Aug 05 2008)
(Message 795643)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: I sure hope you can clear up all the server problems soon, Matt.I have several machines with work results that won't upload and I've also had problems with my machines getting new work too. Good luck on getting the issues sorted tomorrow. I will note from observation of the server status over the last two days, that the back end processes, db-purge, and wu-purge (may have the process names in error) are working fine. In a few hours, certainly before Monday, all that back end work will be complete. Result analysis is clogged up and not making much progress. The tapes are not spitting out new WUs, or more precisely, any WUs read from the tapes are not making it to the outgoing queue. So there is more going on than simply "Can't upload completed WUs" |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
AstroPulse Ghost WUs !!!
(Message 792686)
Posted 4 Aug 2008 by Robert Gammon
Post: Sounds like a solid solution for the laptop... better to cancel WUs upon issue than creating more 30 day ghosts. I too have a Ghost, web site says I have the wu, but the file does not exist on the PC. I too see the error messages in the log State File Error relating to no astropulse and a wu that cannot be processed. So the question is, how to cancel this WU, given that the localhost has NO knowledge of this wu? Onto another topic, seti has been running dry this week after the outage. It appears that the back office functions (analysis, result merge with database, purge results, purge wus) are deluged and that is slowing down the splitters |
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Questions and Answers :
Getting started :
Possible DEAD user contrib client
(Message 540858)
Posted 4 Apr 2007 by Robert Gammon
Post: My OS/2 machine has been happily running the seti enhanced client since it was released, few problems observed in the transition. However, recently, it started saying that it had an outdated account key, and that I should detach and reattach using a new account key. After fumbling around a bit, I got a new account key and reattached the client. But now it REFUSES to go get more work, with the server saying "Platform 'i386-pc-os2-emx' not found" Yuri Dario ported the client originally, so i wonder if he will go execute on a new port of the later client. |
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Questions and Answers :
Wish list :
No work for old clients
(Message 312447)
Posted 21 May 2006 by Robert Gammon
Post: If you are on an unsupported plaform, i.e. a usercontibuted platfrom, you have already run out of work, or will run out of work in the next few days since the spliters are now outputing work units ONLY for the enhanced client. I wish that the staff would consider running the splitters in dual mode for a few more weeks until the user supported clients can get upgraded to the enhanced 5.12 client I happen to be on OS/2 (ecs 1.0) running Seti v4.18. This is the latest version available, created 30 Nov 2005 |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
unable to upload result
(Message 203901)
Posted 5 Dec 2005 by Robert Gammon
Post: Somewhat surprising (to me) that this problem has persisted for so long. I normally have one or two WUs to upload with my contact server settings, but now have 5 to upload and another 2 will complete later today (not a high volume processor). OTOH, no problems downloading new work here, downloaded one today and 5 yesterday. |
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