Posts by BlkJack-21
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Number crunching :
Strike requests
(Message 329219)
Posted 6 Jun 2006 by  BlkJack-21
Post: Easy solution: Credits = Time spent on it X benchmarks (or something that measures the PCs performance) Agreed it is about the science!! (the main reason why I participate) But please keep in mind that some people measure their participation/accomplishments by their credits earned. Since the release of enhanced some feel as if their earnings/contributions has been devalued. (note: I am making this assumption) for those whom credit does matter simply would like the developers to reconsider the possiblity of an adjustment. |
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Number crunching :
Strike requests
(Message 329214)
Posted 6 Jun 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: I too would like to thank everyone for maintaing a civil discussion. In regards to #3. It is our understanding that Crunch3r was concerned about this issue prior to the release of enhanced. It has been an issue of contention since its release. We have seen that the project's developers would consider..but may take up to a year to reconsider. We are asking that the consideration take place sooner than later. As to what the definition of "fair" credit would be...this may be difficult to answer clearly but there are a few possibilities. Greater parity to the other projects resulting in a slight adjustment to the multiplier, or a possible alternatative or combination to just FPOPS, or possibilities not yet realized. |
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Number crunching :
In defense of Crunch3r
(Message 324777)
Posted 3 Jun 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: I'll third it. The fallout has begun. There are several members of our team (SETI.USA) and members of SG that have pulled the plug on Seti and are not comming back. I believe that individuals and members of other teams have done the same... Edit: Here is a interesting graph of number of active users participating in Seti |
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Number crunching :
EVERYONE PLEASE READ WHAT HAPPENED TO CRUNCHER3D
(Message 324029)
Posted 2 Jun 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post:
What you are describing is a result of the inital requests for a response from developers/admin that were then turned into attack (being a credit monger is less than honorable...though a valid reason to volunteer to seti). I do agree that the subseqent posts certainly became "heated" and a lot was said out of anger...some people are unhappy about the situation, and indeed they are entitled to be unhappy from their perspective. But to return to the topic..it will no longer be the same w/Crunch3r and others absence from the project. |
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Number crunching :
EVERYONE PLEASE READ WHAT HAPPENED TO CRUNCHER3D
(Message 323999)
Posted 2 Jun 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Our team (SETI.USA) have been organizing a "work stoppage" (suspend network activity), but had decided to wait to see if the developers/admin here at Seti were going to take any action to our requests. But now in the development of Crunch3r leaving Seti, our team leaders are now considering moving foward to show our disappointment with the latest developments here. It is certaily a shame to see such a respected and valuable asset to the project (seti..and Boinc) be alienated enough to leave the project altogether. This is truly a sad day for DC.... Thanks Crunch3r for everything you have done!! |
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Team Recruitment Center :
New Member Question
(Message 323930)
Posted 2 Jun 2006 by BlkJack-21
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Hey I resemble that remark..hehehehe Yeah we may be considered the pariah team of Seti..but hey can 2.3K members be wrong? ;) (and we are also climbing the charts for the other projects as well) |
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Number crunching :
Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 308169)
Posted 17 May 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: It is getting pretty ridiculous that people OPPOSE increasing granted credit similar to what Seti Beta was producing?!?!? If someone goes to the gas station to fill their tank and it costs $3 a gallon (which is painful for many). Wouldn't people prefer getting more gas for their money? People that are upset w/the new enhanced credit system are simply requesting that they earn what beta pre-enhanced had given. It is obvious in the last revision of beta/enhanced that they suddenly changed the credit system..and it is fair for some to be upset about the sudden change. re: I too am in agreement that the moderator leadership here has gotten pretty bad as of late. |
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Number crunching :
Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 305578)
Posted 14 May 2006 by BlkJack-21
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Agreed Ned understood that the faster, more powerful machines still would earn more credit than slower less powerful. People just want to see their machines earn the same overall credit. Question is...is it unreasonable to ask to earn the same amount of total credit? |
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Number crunching :
Seti Enhanced Credit Fair?
(Message 305450)
Posted 14 May 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Thinking back to when enhanced was being developed (Seti Beta), I remember Matt L. saying something to the effect that under the current Boinc system and growth that it was becoming more and more difficult for the servers to maintain that growth. Enhanced and eventually Astorpulse would dramatically reduce the load on their hardware and allow the project to continue their growth. I believe that many of us in the Seti Community can accept these changes. Very few would argue that if the development of these projects did indeed allow for that growth. Of course I'm stating the obvious that the whole argument is the credit system. Could it have been possible that rather than the resulting system that has been packaged with enhanced..but to have left it similar to what the original boinc app produced? If the purpose was to reduce the load on the servers..why would one alter the credit system as well? I think that more people would have been happy if that Enhanced and Astropulse would have only done so..(reducing server load) |
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Number crunching :
SETI.USA #1 ( RAC )
(Message 253764)
Posted 25 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Seti.Germany has retaken the lead!! Congrats on their push back to the top. This copmpetition is definitely fun :) (ultimatelty for the benefit of science) We will definitely attempt to keep this as interesting as possible..lol |
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Number crunching :
SETI.USA #1 ( RAC )
(Message 251468)
Posted 21 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Pappa, Specifically because of your remarks, I will no longer be helping w/beta testing. This forum is appropriate for this thread. Number crunching:Credit, Leaderboard, CPU Performance (note the heading?!?!?!) If some of our teammates are proud of this accomplishment, then why not celebrate a little?? It is disappointing that someone like yourself would come here and "urinate on their parade" In fact, I do not remember seeing this negativity until you (pappa) began posting. So instead of helping out w/beta, I'll wait til I'm forced to use it. Thanks Pappa |
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Number crunching :
Project III is UOTD
(Message 247118)
Posted 12 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Congrats on being user of the day for 2/12/06!! Project haven't you been UOTD before? |
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Number crunching :
Larry Quinn is UOTD
(Message 246524)
Posted 12 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Congrats @ Larry for UOTD for Seti!! Yeah it is interesting: Stan Ott, Eric Amsler, and now Larry Quinn all in one week!! ;) |
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Number crunching :
Do we have a Boinc virus?
(Message 242954)
Posted 5 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: @Michael Buckingham my latest posts are in response to this statement. I applaud this proposal. For the more paranoid, I'd allow hiding the OS version, but that's about all. There is indeed no reason to hide the hosts, unless you cheat in some way or install BOINC illegally on computers without permission. |
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Number crunching :
Do we have a Boinc virus?
(Message 242942)
Posted 5 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Regarding policing others: If anyone has the time and interest in doing so, so be it. No disagreement here. When discussing "hidden" computers. This particuar issue regarding a trojan/worm was not discovered because of this. I am in disagreement when one says that anyone who choses to have their computers "hidden" is guilty of cheating. Not wanting the public to see number of systems, what types of CPU, OS and breakdown of credits is certainly a choice of privacy. Otherwise Berkeley would have never given users the discretion of keeping this information private. Certainly this issue will have differences of opinion. Fortunately this forum allows us to voice our differences of opinion. :) |
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Number crunching :
Do we have a Boinc virus?
(Message 242802)
Posted 5 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: I applaud this proposal. For the more paranoid, I'd allow hiding the OS version, but that's about all. There is indeed no reason to hide the hosts, unless you cheat in some way or install BOINC illegally on computers without permission. I am very disppointed to see this kind of remark. To make this kind of generalization is not very responsible. If an issue or irregularity occurs w/a user's account, the staff @ Berkeley can easily review the account's hosts, OS, etc. It is not our responsibility to monitor user's accounts..(we are contributing to science, right?!?!) The purpose of "hidden" hosts is meant for privacy. If a user wishes not to share this kind of information with the public, they should be entitled to this choice. The issues in this thread have become clouded, and "hidden" computers has nothing to do with a potential Boinc trojan/worm. |
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Number crunching :
Do we have a Boinc virus?
(Message 241812)
Posted 3 Feb 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: I,(and indeed others), have been watching this thread closely. I appreciate the fact that action has been initated to deal with this sensitive issue. I do believe that the area of greatest concern is the fact that members of our team, myself, and the Seti Community equate our value of participation to this project by the current credit/reward system. Many of our members have invested considerable amount of time and money to Seti. Understood that this is completely voluntary. But that value of credit/reward system is how we "place" our contributions. It is apparent that "the punisment must equal the crime." If this member in question is indeed guilty, and the punisment is considered to be too leanient, the value of the current reward system will be diminished. This, I believe is what is upsetting most people that are monitoring this. |
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Number crunching :
Unless somebody can explain what is going on, I quit!
(Message 227738)
Posted 7 Jan 2006 by BlkJack-21
Post: Get use to it folks. Seti will forever be plagued by incompetent workers who can't do their job correctly. I don't think I have seen a month go by without them having problems. This just continues to emphasize the stupidity of their decision to get rid of classic seti. Seti would be gone if most people left like Brant did. @Michael J. Campbell Interesting comment from a member of a team that is extremely dedicated to contributing to Seti (Specifically Boinc). I will say, on behalf of our team, that this type of comment absolutely is not the view of our team or its members. |
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Cafe SETI :
Sam Lapp is User Of The Day
(Message 223643)
Posted 31 Dec 2005 by BlkJack-21
Post: Woo Hoo! SAM you rock! 2 million total BOINC credits and UOTD for Seti all in one week. Congrats! |
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Cafe SETI :
Team SETI.USA Chat (another one)
(Message 221872)
Posted 27 Dec 2005 by BlkJack-21
Post: Hamlet, ACT II, Scene I incognito ehhh misfit?? :) |
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