Posts by Steve Cressman

21) Message boards : Number crunching : Pre-empted (Message 310615)
Posted 19 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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this pre-empting is getting crazy..

presently have 6 preempted WU's out of 30. All WU's were downloaded less than 2 hours ago. and since it is a Pentium D, it crunches 2 at a time.

what is crazy though, 2 of the preempted WU's have an earlier deadline than the ones it is working on right now?

and I am only running SETI, no other projects.

Don't worry, the scheduler will get around to doing them again. The scheduler has many rules to follow to make sure all work completes before their deadlines.

Pre-Empted = Paused
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Buttons on boinc manager are broken (Message 310137)
Posted 19 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Did you selected a project before trying to press the buttons?
23) Message boards : Number crunching : unrecoverable error from preempted WU's (Message 308221)
Posted 17 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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This error : Access Violation (0xc0000005)
means that your seti5.12.jpg file is corrupt. You can d/l a replacement here :
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/seti512.jpg
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Sorry Folks for the # of aborted Downloads, Need Help to optimise Enhanced (Message 306120)
Posted 15 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Unless we want widespread selective WU computing, I recommend deletion of this thread.

Agreed.

I disagree; there’s been no information presented that isn’t common knowledge, aside from revealing something about the character of those who’d advocate such behaviour. IMO a better response would be a large, punitive quota reduction incurred from manually aborting results whose deadlines haven’t expired.

Several months ago I made a remark questioning the character of the very same person. That was in regard to telling another person to disobeying orders from an employer and run the Boinc software anyway.
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer clock error (Message 306096)
Posted 15 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I don't think there is much you can do except abort the work. This won't hurt anything because the work gets resent to someone else. And you get issued new ones in there place.
:)
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti Enhanced Credit Fair? (Message 306014)
Posted 15 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I'll notice if you leave, that's for sure :o)

I don't see competition stopping after the transition is complete, as everybody's RAC will drop by the same percentage.

At the moment, the easiest way to stay "on top" would be avoiding enhanced completely, but that's not my piece of cake.
So I took the other option and sort of quit the competition for a while.

Running enhanced and standard at the same time is more like a lottery, and pretty much invalidates any credits gained.

Regards Hans


Thanks, Hans. But after the complete rollout of enhanced is complete, with the lower credits, there will never be any more competition. SETI.USA once had a chance to compete directly with Seti.Germany, and a chance at becoming the #1 team. Now, with only 1/3 of the credits, this overtake cannot possibly happen within MY lifetime. And that is just in TEAM competition. As for one on one competition, I won't be able to move any higher in THAT respect either, in MY lifetime, unless I end up hitting the lotto. So, remove competition, and you remove most volunteer's reason for being here. Compound that with those telling me and the other competitors that we don't matter, because we also think of credits, and the choice is clear. Why bother crunching for a project that considers it's top participants to be pariahs.

Regards, Daniel.

I don't know where you think the competition has gone. As long as we are crunching and getting credits, the competition still exists.

And as for you and seti.germany, it looks like you think that germany is going to continue with the old system while you have to use the new system. Talk about a persecution complex. In case you haven't figured it out seti.germany is using the new credit system also, not just you.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC has work again, Off topic thread (Message 305545)
Posted 14 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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LHC has lost my account. Now I can't even log in to tell them over there that they lost my account. All I get is user not found. Can't get to the forums because it says I need to login but i can't login because it says don't exist. Can someone please post at LHC that I want my account back. Same name as here. Thanx.
Account No. 3254

Never mind. Just got it to work with Internet Exploder. Don't understand why LHC could not find me while using FireFox. Started up Exploder hoping that the auto login was set for LHC but it was not.When trying with FF it would say no user with that email. Started up Exploder and entered my email addy at LHC and it was able to send me my account KEY. Now back using FF and was able to login at LHC.

Scratches head in wonder as I post.


I just tried in my FireFox and I don't have any problems.

It must have been a glitch of some kind...



First let me say thanks Dotsch.

Yes was very strange, never seen anything like it. Was trying to get LHC to send my account info because I could not remember what I did with that info. With FF it said that my email address did not exist but with IE was able to get LHC to send the info to my email account. THen with this info was able to login to LHC with FireFox and all is good in the universe again, lol. I knew my account at LHC still existed since my old scores are still going out with the stats.xml file to the stats sites.

Just one of those things huh Fuzzy, just like your napping computer the other day, LOL.
28) Message boards : Number crunching : Cant get enough work? (Message 305529)
Posted 14 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Ned is right and I have stated also that if your connect time is set high that it can prevent you from getting work from seti.

If the work on the seti d/l server at the time of your request has a short deadline then you will not be issued work because the scheduler thinks that you will miss the deadline with your 10 day connection interval.

Short work = 4.34 days to deadline.

Therefore I would suggest a cache setting less than 4 days to decrease your chances of being refused work.
:)
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Q: Are SETI WUs taking longer to crunch than previously? (Message 305451)
Posted 14 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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[font='courier,courier new']Just an informal poll, but I've been noticing that SETI WUs (and Einstein WUs) are taking much longer to crunch than they used to. I've had two ten-hour-long SETI WUs and a 16-hour-long Einstein WU is still in my queue.

I'm only running BOINC Menubar, so there's no graphics, and I occasionally fire up BOINC Manager (just to look at what's in the to-do list), but that's for maybe a total of 10 sec. tops.

Is anyone else experiencing this?[/font]



I have gone from approx 4 hour times per WU to 9 hour times per Wu since going to the enhanced version of Boinc.

Just because this person did not do any reading before posting about longer times is no reason to mark the persons post negative.

Dragon, The new app does more work, therefore it takes longer for most of the workunits. But there are some that will take less time also. Not to worry though, you will get more credits for the longer wu's based on the Fpops counting method now being used. If your Boinc client is pre 5.2.6 then it is recomended that you update. Updates can be found here .
30) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC has work again, Off topic thread (Message 305353)
Posted 14 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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LHC has lost my account. Now I can't even log in to tell them over there that they lost my account. All I get is user not found. Can't get to the forums because it says I need to login but i can't login because it says don't exist. Can someone please post at LHC that I want my account back. Same name as here. Thanx.
Account No. 3254

Never mind. Just got it to work with Internet Exploder. Don't understand why LHC could not find me while using FireFox. Started up Exploder hoping that the auto login was set for LHC but it was not.When trying with FF it would say no user with that email. Started up Exploder and entered my email addy at LHC and it was able to send me my account KEY. Now back using FF and was able to login at LHC.

Scratches head in wonder as I post.
31) Message boards : Number crunching : What say you about Seti-Enhanced?? (Message 304107)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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But the move to Einstein may only be for a short period. The Alberts will finish about mid-June with no addition of hosts or further optimisation. Akosf has been open with Bruce Allen and his programers so the assumtion must be that most of the optimisation will be included in Einstein's next phase.
It is also quite possible that Einstein will in the next phase or shortly after move to an Fpops or similar credit system and at that stage there will be little disparity in the credit calculation between the largest supported projects.

The most one can then do then, if credits is your thing, is put the hardware where it is most efficient. And if you haven't worked that out yet, then you better get started.

Andy

Well said!
+
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Media Clip on Home Page... (Message 304100)
Posted 13 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Who in the hell still uses RealMedia anymore?
Seriously guys, RM format is absolute crap, installs spyware and generally is not useful in todays computer savvy world.

I feel the same way about realmadia and have for a long time.
I remeber several years ago I had to do a complete reinstall of my system to get rid of it. An uninstall left a lot of stuff behind that when deleted would reapear the next time the system was booted. Not my idea of friendly software.
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Best way from Crunch3rs S@H 4.11 to 5.12? (Message 303459)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Based on what others have suggested, I originally ran the queue dry, let BOINC download the standard 5.12 worker, stopped BOINC, copied in Crunch3r's 4.11 and 5.12 optimized workers and app_info.xml, and restarted BOINC. I did not edit app_info.xml.

Crunch3r's app_info.xml already contains references to both apps.

Does it also contain info regarding apps 5.13 and 5.14? If not you will have problems.
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Pre-empted (Message 303443)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I think my brain got pre-empted yesterday.:-)


I want to ask "pre-empted by what" but on second thought that's kinda scary. :-)

Well booze does a good job of pre-empting the brain, lol.
35) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 5.4.9 (Message 303441)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Not true. It will still do a lot for einstein. If I did not have trux's client installed I would be dragging the credits down at einstein. Without calibration claim 7 or 8 credits, with calibration 37 - 39 credits and the standard claim should be 42 for long einstein units. So even with calibration I still drag it down a bit. There will be many hoping that trux does a 5.4.x client.

I don't care that much about credits but I do like to see the numbers go up, lol. And since there seems to be so many that get bent out of shape over credits I use the calibration to keep them happy.

I setup BAM on this system the other day using trux's client but CC v5.4.9 is needed I think for full functionality of the account manager software. So in order to use it I am having to decide :
1) Do I install 5.4.9 to get this working and drag down the credits at einstein
or
2)Not install for now and hope that trux does a new client. But this option does not look good because there has been no activity at the truxoft site since january I think according to check-in notes.

Not positive on this but some have mentioned crunch3r also makes a calibrating client. If trux doesn't do it maybe crunch3r will update his if he has one. Just was checking crunc3r's site and can't find any mention of calibrating clients so guess some people are confused as to who's client they are using.
:)
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Changing Global Preferences (Message 303427)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Yes, but BAM is closed again for signing up. They allowed 200 people to come in for the (final?) beta test.

Yes Ageless, I know that at the moment I am one of the lucky few but it won't stay that way for long. Also I think that there is more than one place that is working on bringing Account Managers to the masses. BAM is just one of them. I got my account because I was in the right place at the right time.
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Changing Global Preferences (Message 303421)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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I think what you are looking for is an Account Manager. An account manager allows you to control all your computers and all your projects from one web site. I setup a BAM account 2 days ago. It still has some rough edges but like everthing Boinc it is a work in progress and will improve. To get full functionality of the 'account manager' you need to install the latest version of Boinc, that would now be v5.4.9.

Some more info on Account Managers can be found here
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors on Seti Enhanced (Message 303095)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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Hi All

Since moving to Seti enhanced v5.1.2 around 9 in 10 of my work units fail to complete with the following message. "12/05/2006 00:03:30|SETI@home|Unrecoverable error for result 01mr99aa.26277.30545.972158.3.131_0 ( - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005))" Obviously the date and WU ref change but the exit code is always the same. Does anyone know what this specific exit code means?

Any enlightenment would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Marts

XP with sp2
AMD Athlon XP 2800+
1024 MB RAM
Nvidia 6800 128MB
Running Windows firewall only

THat exit code was mentioned earlier in this thread and it was determined that this means that you have a corrupt seti512.jpg file. You can d/l a replacement file from the Berkeley servers here .
:)
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Firefox Extension: BOINC Stats (Message 303017)
Posted 11 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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The extension manager still says 'no updates found' but I'll keep tryin' and let you know when it does happen. Also the search for 'BOINC Stats' on the FireFox add-ons page reports:

Addon Search

There are currently no results. Please use the options above to adjust your search terms.

So I guess getting a home on Mozdev is just the first step in a mutli part process.

Edit: Looks good to see the page up there at Mozdev just the same :)
40) Message boards : Number crunching : What say you about Seti-Enhanced?? (Message 302987)
Posted 11 May 2006 by Profile Steve Cressman
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This post is not directed at any one person but it could be directed at you.

I just don't understand this choice thing I keep reading about. Seti developers have decided that they want to do a more in depth search of the work to increase our chances of finding the signal. We should all be glad this has happened! This requires a new seti app and that app is 5.12. Most of the work now takes a bit longer, so what, we get credit for it. Some of it will take a very long time, some of it even takes less time to do. THe credit now recieved for the standard 5.12 app is the same per hour as the standard 4.18 app. Some of us have been spoiled with what could be viewed as extra credits because we where using optimized apps. Now You cry because you don't have the advantage any more over those who where ignorant to the optimized apps. Just where do you think that you are going to spend those credits? Not any place that I know any time soon. Those of us who once again install otimized apps will still get an advantage but not as great of an advantage as before because a lot of the optimizers techniques have already been added to the standard app. The advantage won't be extra credit for a result because of Fpops counting but by increased throughput giving us more done in the same time span.

I think that if people give it a chance and allow themselves to understand the new way of doing things they will come to appreciate it's benefits.

This volunteer cruncher likes the new seti, and I think most will agree.
:)


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