Posts by Area 51

81) Message boards : Number crunching : HEATWAVE SHUTDOWN!! (Message 1131055)
Posted 23 Jul 2011 by Profile Area 51
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The temperature peaked at 15°C today in the Netherlands so I may have to switch on some more pc's to keep the house warm.

And yes, it is supposed to be summer here and the normal (average) maximum temperature this time of the year is 22.1°C...


Yeah, the heatwave has now hit SW Scotland; I had to open my window by an extra 3/4" today! ;-)
82) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (51) Server problems? (Message 1130609)
Posted 22 Jul 2011 by Profile Area 51
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What the heck have they done to Carolyn, and who is taking her place?


My guess for the reason of this outage was a heatwave, combined with a failed AC-unit in the server closet.

I thought about that yesterday & checked the weather for Berkeley. They are getting highs in the upper 60's °F all week. Not to say something could not have overheated. I am sure their A/C runs year round as it does in my test lab at work.



Well, we did have the a/c go down last year....
83) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 560ti Users: Information Needed (Message 1128405)
Posted 16 Jul 2011 by Profile Area 51
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...where on Earth did you dig that up from??????? I know that feeling all to well ;-)

Brilliant - superb post!
84) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.38 release notes (Message 1122597)
Posted 29 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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After completing about 5500 tasks, I got one down-clock after the folowing task:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1964766177

Had to re-boot to re-apply the overclock.

Only other observation is that my DCF has stayed in the 1.2-1.3 range since using the 0.38 binaries.
85) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't upload/download tasks (Message 1120541)
Posted 23 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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I rebooted my computer but still can't upload.
In another computer I can upload. Any ideas of what might be the problem?

Regards



Right now, the upload server is showing as down.......but the download servers are up - LOL!
86) Message boards : Number crunching : Is there something wrong with my machine? (Message 1120055)
Posted 22 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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I assume that you are referring to these tasks:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5564995&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

These are all 'impossibly short deadline' tasks. I believe (and somebody might like to confirm) that these are all VLARS that the servers timed out to save them being sent to your GPU. I think it was Richard Halselgrove who posted an excellent description of how/why this happens. If this is the case, there is/was nothing you could have done to prevent them
87) Message boards : Number crunching : Rookie mistake (Message 1119791)
Posted 21 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Well, this is interesting. I started this thread as an apology to my wingmen for taking a bit longer than I normally would to finish my work and to explain why so others might not make the same mistake. Never expected it to turn into a rant thread. I've reread my post a couple of times and I don't see where I might have been construed as ranting. I haven't quite made it to nine years yet but I plan to be here at least another nine if that's what it takes to find the signal. I donate what I can and try to help whenever I can. Maybe someday I'll buy a winning lottery ticket and donate a big portion of it to SETI. Until then I'll just keep crunching along.

Okay, enough from me, rant on if you wish gang, the thread's all yours.



Peerjay, you have absolutely nothing to apolgise for - you've got a bunch of tasks you weren't expecting, all nice and snug on your machine and as ever, will doubtless process and report them within the alloted time frame - which I believe is the general objective of the project. Whether it was by accident or design, the important thing is that you look after the data and do what is required with it whilst it is in your care.

It is the general 'naysayers' posting to this thread who need to take a cold hard look at what they are posting about and where, and consider the relevance of their comments to the thread (including who started it, ie you) before they hit the Post Reply button.
88) Message boards : Number crunching : Liquid cooling a cpu (Message 1116374)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Chromespringer:

I think you have to ask yourself what you want to achieve by switching to liquid cooling, and how much you are prepared to spend. There are any number of companies out there who will take your money without a second thought, and many of the products being sold by them do the job admirably.

If you just want a quick and easy, more efficient way of transferring your waste heat from your CPU into the surrounding environment, then the all in one solutions (whether water driven or phase change) are worth more than a second look. If however, you have slightly deeper pockets, a slight sense of adventure, don't mind getting your hands a little 'dirty' and consider that it may be possible that you will extend the range of components serviced by a WC solution, then a custom loop IS the way to go. However, ultimately, either solution is perfectly valid, depending on the answer to the original question.

There is no doubt that the custom loop route will almost certainly provide a 'better' cooling solution overall (and a great sense of satisfaction when complete); there is however more complexity involved - inevitably. However, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to build such a loop; basic physics in terms of remembering that gravity acts vertically downwards, and that you cannot compress a column of air indefinitely with a column of fluid using gravity alone (or a WC pump), will get you through. There are many people here who can help with the mechanics.

I don't often find myself agreeing with BeNt, but he is right in telling you not to listen to the naysayers; WC done carefully with a little common sense is fine (in the same way that you probably wouldn't expect to drive your car into a brick wall at 100 mph and only get a slight headache as a result). Simple precautions and a little patience are all that is required. Gone are the days of home-brew solutions; the products on the market today really are fit for purpose. Even an annual coolant change on a custom loop, if approached with a little forethought isn't that much of a challenge - a little time consuming perhaps, but no more.

I threw the h50 (or h60 or h70) into the discussion because such solutions really are quick, easy, practical and portable. I use two custom loops for my GPUs, but decided that it really wasn't worth the extra effort and complexity to include the CPU in either of my loops; it was just more practical and expedient to go with a separate Corsair unit - and I have yet to regret that decision.
89) Message boards : Number crunching : Liquid cooling a cpu (Message 1116257)
Posted 12 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Hello
system
AMD Phenom II 970 BE quad. cpu
Asus M4A89GTD Pro AM3 mainboard
am going from air cool to liquid cooling on the cpu and would like suggestions on quality liquid coolers @ reasonable prices. pros & cons ?
Any and all suggestions and help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin



I would save yourself a bundle of money (if you're just looking at the CPU) if I were you, and drop a Corsiar h50 in. Mine keeps my 1090t at low to mid 40s, running @ 3.96 GHz on very low fan speeds (you really cannot beat the value of those things). That way, you get the advantage of a completely self-contined liquid cooling setup - at a fraction of the cost.
90) Message boards : Number crunching : May/June Fund Drive (Message 1114466)
Posted 8 Jun 2011 by Profile Area 51
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A little late to the party, and a little small, but every little helps:

Thank you for your gift to:

SETI@home

We received your gift of $20.00 via Visa on 06/07/2011. Your confirmation number is 75043.

91) Message boards : Number crunching : Please Tell Me BOINC Isn't Stupid (Message 1095857)
Posted 10 Apr 2011 by Profile Area 51
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OK, heres my four pennorth worth ...

Microsoft Excel stores dates and times as a number representing the number of days since 1900-Jan-1


Today is day 40642 :-)

Next ...




...perhaps julian dates would be the thing, then we just have a single number for date and time!

Immagimne that: right, thats confirmed; we meet at 2455662.37314; ahh, no hang on - busy then, how are you fixed for 2455662.39314? No sorry, got a squeeze on then, I can make 2455662.49314 though.... !!!!

Perhaps on second thoughts, that's not such a good idea! Lets just stick with what we've got - confusion and all - and beg to differ.
92) Message boards : Number crunching : 8 GPUs (Message 1092769)
Posted 2 Apr 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Think that just stunned us all into silence.




...which in itself is quite something!!!!
93) Message boards : Number crunching : you have $1200 theoretically speaking (Message 1090391)
Posted 25 Mar 2011 by Profile Area 51
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I'm so broke, I need a third job! Yuk!

Steve




...no money in the 'piggy bank' ehh???
94) Message boards : Number crunching : GTX 295 Driver Hell (Message 1086129)
Posted 11 Mar 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Eck, scratch everything. I ran with the 260.99's, 266.58's and the 267.24's and everything seemed ok. Got a BSOD 0x18 error, reference_by_pointer error. Seems to be a miss match of driver and cuda dll's as it only happens when crunching. DO NOT INSTALL the 270.32's if you are a gamer. You can not enable SLi with them, texture corruption in some game, crashes in some games, but some games show better performance. Extremely beta continue at your own risk.

I'm rolling back now, I didn't have any error'd units with the new cuda, but I did have a machine crash. It's not ready for prime time yet! That's what testing is all about now I know. ;)




How about DO NOT INSTALL period.

Somehow, I don't think the S@H production system is a suitable test environment. These dlls will make into the production code once those who are familiar with their use and the delta between them and the previous versions are satisfied with their stability and suitability; installing them before this is foolhardy.
95) Message boards : Number crunching : OMG......I did it. (Message 1081784)
Posted 26 Feb 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Many long years and just a few computers later.........
Meanwhile, I was stilllllllllll crunching.

I only lost one kitty during the duration.....my beloved Tigger.
And Lori's Oscar. and Shadow.

Kinda strange when time has to be measured in kitties, eh?

But it's true.....and my Squirrel is on her last legs too.

Many moons come Shachtow.......

Long time from the 233 mmx I started with.

Many trials and tribulations. I am still here.
Like I said, 'till the last dog is hung, or the last WU is split, I shall be here.

The kitties have done this all themselves....LOL. Or at least not I without them.
100 million. Only the 11th person in Seti post classic history to have done so.

My, my, my.

Kibble's on me...........




Its such a big number, it only just fits in your box!!!! Well done - through thick and thin you've stuck through it; a lesson in tenacityy for some folks methinks!
96) Message boards : Number crunching : Quad Core vs. Hex Core (Message 1077492)
Posted 15 Feb 2011 by Profile Area 51
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I'm running a 550W power supply right now, and I've found out that the mobo I have can support the Phenom II X6 series thanks to a BIOS flash. The main thing I'm having to debate at this point is if the system can handle the additional heat. I'm currently running at 45C pretty consistently (yay other projects when Seti is down).

How much of a temperature increase have people noticed moving from 2 cores to 6? I know that some of that will depend on the location of the machine, but I'm just hoping for a ballpark figure increase. If I have to take the machine out of it's current cabinet, I can. I'd just like to know if that's something I have to think about before I upgrade.

As for the video card, I've definately looked at the NVidia GTX 460s. The Radeon 46XX I'm using now has been good, but with the wealth of projects that can use NVidia GPUs I'd be a fool not to go with them.

On the plus side, this will also be a nice gaming rig when I'm not crunching. :D




See previous post re TDP; there is no additional heat output.
97) Message boards : Number crunching : Quad Core vs. Hex Core (Message 1077231)
Posted 14 Feb 2011 by Profile Area 51
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TDP is not the amount of power it's using. TDP = Thermal Design Power:


Never claimed it was, and I'm well aware of what TDP represents. I was simply pointing out that cooling a 1050 is no different to cooling a 955 since their TDP values are the same (I used to run a 955, and now I run a 1050).

The edit to my post was simply to point out (before someone else did), that when upgrading a CPU, you do need to consider the PSU side of things as well and not just assume that your current setup can handle whatever you demand of it.
98) Message boards : Number crunching : Quad Core vs. Hex Core (Message 1076914)
Posted 13 Feb 2011 by Profile Area 51
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First off, I would like to apologize if this question has been posted elsewhere, I was unable to locate it.

I am looking at an upgrade to my PC's processor and currently I'm debating between a Phenom II X4 or X6. I'm not sure which would be better, so I could use some suggestions.

As an aside on the upgrade, my current processor is rated for 80W TDP. Can I go to the 125W TDP processors in the X4 or X6 families without much difficulty, or should I scale back the ambition of the upgrade for the sake of a still functional machine?



The TDP of the 1050 (hexa core) is the same as the 955 (quad core), so provifding you have the cooling aspect covered and your mainboard supports the 6 core CPUs (not all AM3 boards do), it makes ense to seriously consider the 1050T.


[edit] What about your PSU; how close are you to drawing its maximum rated output? Although there is only a small additional power draw between a 955 and a 1050, you may find yourself OTT if going from an 80 watts TDP CPU up to 125 watts[/edit]
99) Message boards : Number crunching : Errors on Cuda Units with new server build (Message 1063704)
Posted 5 Jan 2011 by Profile Area 51
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Man though this was resolved, it appears today the issue is back but now I'm getting -177 errors with the information listing "Unhandled Exception Detected...". I tried going back to crunching only one gpu and the problem is still there. Really getting irritated, especially consider my other machine never gave any issues. Going to start running a memtest to see it's the ram.


-177 errors can be fixed with Fred's Rescheduler tool. There is a checkbox that can fix them.

Steve



Yeah I've used the rescheduler for a bit now. But it isn't fixing these issues. I'm getting all kinds of errors. In the last 2 days or so I've returned 8-10 bad units. I'm still thinking it's a power supply issue but I'm not sure.

*Edit*
I apologize Steve it isn't check marked on my server machine. Not sure if I want to stop the mem check and start crunching again or not to find out.

*Update on some research*

-177 - No clue still. Normally caused by gpu trying to process cpu tasks?

1(0x1) error (Incorrect function) - Says out of date drivers possibly the cause. But I'm running 260.99 from Nvidia. Verified both cards were using it as well.

-1073741819 (0xffffffffc0000005)/ Access Violation (0xc0000005) - Can not find any information about this error. This one was caused directly after I tried OCing my 8800.

-6 (0xfffffffffffffffa) (Bad Work Unit Header) - Says this is mainly caused by something on the Seti@Home server side or issues during transfer. I don't think this was caused by my computer but could be wrong. I think this one also may have came after my OC attempts. No sure though.

Seems most of my errored work units have been the -177 and 1(0x1) items. This is really smelling of an under powered set of video cards to me.

e8400 @ 3Ghz (no oc)
4GB Mushkin Blackline DDr2 800
GTS 250 1GB
8800 GTS 640MB
Assorted hard disks x 4
580 watt psu.

I don't think the psu is enough still, but like I said I want to try any available routes before I have to spend $100+ for a 750-850 watt. And if you were buying a power supply for this machine what size would you shoot for? I'm thinking a 750 would be enough, but I've never ran dual card. I'm figuring, on a rough estimate, ~200 watt for motherboard, ram, processor and optical drive. About 170 each on the video cards and 80 watt's or less for the drives. That would put me at about 450. Like I said I've got a 580 supply but I'm thinking under load it may be spiking too high for the psu and cause one of the cards to error out.



Thermaltake hasve a PSU sizing tool on their website:

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

Never used it before, but it may be of some use to you......
100) Message boards : Number crunching : Are the servers down again? Not getting any new WU. (Message 1055729)
Posted 13 Dec 2010 by Profile Area 51
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In case anyone wasn't aware, from the front page:

Since we're recovering from a failed disk over the weekend, we might as well stop the project and do our usual Tuesday 13 Dec 2010 19:49:12 UTC
outage chores today.


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