Posts by OVERTAKE_ME

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829792)
Posted 11 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi HAL9000,


I'm thinking I might grab a 2nd board so the temps you get will be good to know. I might go for a pair of the NH-D9DX i4 3U's instead of the NH-U12DXi4's if they get the job done for less money.


I will give you an update on temps once I re-seat the Heat sinks/fan.

Currently, there are around 40c on idle, and 90c+ on 100% load!


It would be interesting to hear what temp's you get on those D9DX's..

Thanks for all the information and advice you have given.


Hi Grant (SSSF), rob smith, and Cruncher-American,

Thanks for the information about attaching heat sinks / fans to CPU's.

Regards,

Chris
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829465)
Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Cosmic_Ocean,

Thanks for the reply.

I currently using Nocturas Heat sinks and Fans, so I have just bought some Nocturas CPU cleaner, and Nocturas thermal paste.

I have just read what you wrote with great interest; hopefully this next I seat the heat sinks/fans I will do a better job.

I think all avenues are pointing to the heat sink/fans not being done correctly due to non-excessive heat coming from them (when cpu's at 90c).

Thanks for your reply and advice,

Chris
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829401)
Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Jim,

... I just assumed there would be a size property setup for the tag used in this forum.

If there is, I've never found it, and I've looked :)
l8r


Some forums have this tag attribute; I think they would have to add it to the SETI forum in order for this to work.

Thanks,

Chris.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829400)
Posted 9 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi HAL,

Thanks for your reply.

I was hoping you were going to say your CPU temps were running really high until you updated the BIOS :(

Currently my Xeon's are running at 2.9 GHz (3Ghz) with Turbo turned on, so not at the full 3.3 GHz.

If the Bios is the not the problem then perhaps it is down to the way I have fitted the heat sinks/fans to the CPU's.

With 100% load across all CPU's and one GTX 970, the CPU core temps run at 88-90c. (via CoreTemp software).

I have read that if your cores are at running at 90c temp, then the heat sink's should be Very Hot; mine are not that hot to the touch, hot but not Very Hot.

So I will probably removed the heat sink/fans, clean off the thermal paste, and re-apply; hopefully this will resolve the heat problems.

Thanks for your advice and information,

Chris
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829166)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi HAL9000,

Thanks for the reply.


The BIOS my MB arrived with was fine, but lacked the option for Turbo. Which is really the only reason I updated it to 02.06.0005.
Special note on updating the firmware. After following the update processes. Clear the BIOS using the reset jumper. Then let the system do its thing. I was sure for a few minutes that I nuked the BIOS. I had some beeping and a "no system memory" message before I cleared the BIOS. After the BIOS was cleared it did some beeps, took a long time to boot, but was fine.

Once I installed the Nocturas I've had no thermal issues. Even with turbo keeping all of the cores running 3.0GHz the heatsinks are not really even warm to the touch. The CPUs are between 50-55ºC running flat out with HT on and the fans right around 1000RPM.

If you are seeing those kind of temps at idle something seems wonky. Like perhaps the heatsinks are not secured correctly or something, but if the heatsinks are getting warm that would point to them making good contact.


I just checked and my BIOS and it is: v1.02.0003 so a much lesser version than the one you updated to: v2.006.0005

Can I ask..

1) Did you update to the next (slightly higher) BIOS update, or just update straight to the latest and highest version BIOS update?

2) Also, what software are using to monitor CPU fan speeds?

3) And lastly, did you monitor CPU temp after you installed the Nocturas, but before you updated the BIOS, or did you not do it in that order?

Thanks HAL, hopefully I can get this finally sorted.

Chris
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829165)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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To everyone posting suggestions on how to resize images.. Thanks.

However, the edit button is now no longer visible on that post, and hence I cannot change the picture size.

Next time I post I will make sure I resize first, I just assumed there would be a size property setup for the tag used in this forum.

Chris
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829152)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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You have it connected correctly. Forget my suggestion.


No worries.

This is why I was hoping to find someone that had built one of these boxes via this Motherboard S2600CP2J as then hopefully they could spot the problem.

I very much appreciate all the help you guys have offered so far though.

I think it all may be related to not updating the BIOS as I think that may fix and add options to the BIOS.

Thanks again,

Chris

In-case anyone else has this problem, and wants a quick fix to crunch..

Turning off Hyper-theading made no difference, and turning off Turbo made little difference. About the only way to keep temps low, espically when some projects that really stress the CPU (PG) start crunching WU's, is to drop % CPU usage down from 100%.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829150)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Zalster,

Could you use a 4 pin splitter to split 1 of the CPU between the Xeons? Leave the other free for the Case Fan hub?


Err, I am not sure. I guess so if I bought a splitter.

Surely the problem is not with the case fans, but with the CPU fan(s) not spinning quick enough?

CPU Fan 1 is going into CPU_Fan_1 header, and CPU Fan 2 is going into CPU_Fan_2 header which to me would seem logical?

Can I ask, why would you think this would make a difference, surely Sys_fan_7 is also reading temps from the MB and possibly CPU temps?

I am very new to all this as this is the first machine I have built!


Thanks,

Chris
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829147)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Brent,

TCASE for that CPU is 80.0°C at 80-90C you should be well into thermal throttling.

What is you idle temp?


Idle temp is around 55 which seems high.

Chris
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829146)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Zalster and Jimbocous,

At present I have no graphics software to resize the images.

Due the BIOS being the first version they does not seem to be any options on changing fan speeds as there is in other BIOS setups that I have seen.

Sorry perhaps I did not explain very well; Both Xeons CPUs are plugged into CPU_fan_1 and CPU_fan_2 headers, respectively.

I have plugged the Case fan hub into Sys_fan_7 header as the other sys_fan_N headers are all 3 pin but the case lead is a 4 pin. Sys_fan_7 takes a 4 pin lead.

Chris
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829142)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi Brent,

May I ask the obvious? Did you put the thermal paste on properly?


Yeah I believe so, about a pea sized amount on both heat-sinks.

The heat sinks are getting real hot so I guess there is heat transfer from the the CPU into the sinks, plus the fans are expelling hot air.

Chris
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Building a 32 thread xeon system doesn't need to cost a lot (Message 1829140)
Posted 8 Nov 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi,

I noticed that some of you had bought the Natex S2600CP2J boards with Xeon E5-2670's, I wondered if I could ask a question about this as I have just built one of these?

(Aplogies about the size of the images; I am not sure how to force them to be smaller via this forum)



Everything has put together well and seems to be working okay except that the CPUs are getting real hot, 80c-90c; the Heat sinks and fans are spinning, and are plugged into CPU_fan headers.


I am using the: Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U 92mm Intel Xeon CPU Cooler's.

I thought maybe this was because it was out of the box, so put the MB into the box but it has not made any difference. The case front fan is pulling, and back fan is pushing out air.



The problem seems to be that that CPU fans are not spinning fast enough to expel enough air. The case fan hub cable is plugged into Sys_fan_7, the only 4 pin fan header left (after cpu_fan1 and cpu_fan2).

The only thing I have Not done is update the BIOS.

Could anyone who has built one of these offer some advice on how I can get the CPUs to a normal temperature?

Is this related to not updating the BIOS?

Thank you for any help you can offer me..

Chris
13) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Raspberry Pi 2 Model B - Can someone give me the Unix commands to upgrade Boinc/SETI from v7 to v8? (Message 1807025)
Posted 4 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Just got another notice:

SETI@home: Notice from server
Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of SETI@home v8.

Can someone give me the unix commands to upgrade boinc+seti from v7 to v8 please?
14) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Raspberry Pi 2 Model B - Can someone give me the Unix commands to upgrade Boinc/SETI from v7 to v8? (Message 1807024)
Posted 4 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Just got the notice:

SETI@home: Notice from Server

Unknown app name setiathome_enhanced in app_info.xml

(see next post)
15) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Raspberry Pi 2 Model B - Can someone give me the Unix commands to upgrade Boinc/SETI from v7 to v8? (Message 1807020)
Posted 4 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi,

I installed BOINC and Added SETI to Raspberry PI 2 (model B) but when the GUI loaded it said: no work units? (seti is added as a project)

Now it keeps saying: communication deferred until N; where N is a time period.

I am a windows user and do not really know Unix too well!

As there anyone that can help me setup PI/Boinc seti so that it constantly runs?

Also can I ask, will PI and Bonic run constantly if I take the HDMI cable out?

Thanks in advance..

(see last post)
16) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 x SETI@Home tasks stuck 1/2 done on 'waiting to run'.. (Message 1806437)
Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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OK Thanks; I did use the same email address across accounts.
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 x SETI@Home tasks stuck 1/2 done on 'waiting to run'.. (Message 1806417)
Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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I think you have hit the nail on the head.

All the new tasks have a sooner deadline than the tasks that are 'waiting to run'.

I guess from a processing point of view that make sense to do.

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Can I ask another question?

If you look at my profile it does not list climate prediction as one of my projects, just 2 old projects (that I dropped), SETI and Rosetta.

Is this likely to correct itself at some point? Or do I need to do something?

Thanks for your help.
18) Questions and Answers : Windows : 6 x SETI@Home tasks stuck 1/2 done on 'waiting to run'.. (Message 1806392)
Posted 1 Aug 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Boinc v7.6.22 (x64)

Windows 10

Intel Core i7 4790 (Haswell)

3.60 GHz - (4 Cores / 8 Threads,Logical processors)

16 GB RAM

99.99% time used for Boinc

Currently running: SETI, Rosetta, World Community Grid, & Climate Predication

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For the last week I have noticed that 6 SETI tasks (12.5% - 97% completed) have been stuck on 'waiting to run'; all that happens is existing tasks are completed and then new tasks are fetched and set to 'ready to run', starting when new tasks are required.

However these existing tasks stuck on 'waiting to run' are never completed!

Can someone tell me how I can get these 6 tasks completed? They are all SETI tasks.

If I stop my internet connection and then let Boinc run out of tasks (except these 'waiting to run' task's, should Boinc then complete them?)

It would be a bit of a waste though while I waiting for that to happen (or not).

Thanks for your help, in advance.
19) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to leave a team? (Message 1789217)
Posted 21 May 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Thank you BilBg, much appreciated.
20) Questions and Answers : Preferences : How to leave a team? (Message 1789207)
Posted 21 May 2016 by Profile OVERTAKE_ME Project Donor
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Hi,

I clicked a text in an message and before I knew it I was subscribed into the Korean team!

Being British, from Cambridge, I would prefer to join a related team; no offence to our Korean friends :)

Can someone point me to how one changes the team that they are in?

** Also, how do I delete the duplicate post that I accidentally made? **

Thanks in Advance.

chris.cambridge.uk





 
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