Posts by Philosopher8659

21) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737082)
Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Your a hypocrite.

Did you mean you're?



Wow! how would you like to proof everyone who uses the English Language on this forum along. You might be gainfully employed!

You call that a mature response? Really?

How do you respond to ur, or Ur? It must be just as amazing.
22) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737075)
Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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That is clever, because I have one standard by which I answer questions, means I cannot answer questions in accordance with that standard.

I agree with bobby.
You must be a carpenter who never built a thing.

Once again you go ad hominum, you have not disappointed me yet.


every metaphor must be an "ad hominum" to you. I bet you don't comprehend analog processing very well.

So why is it you don't point that out to other posters when they post non-sense which is not on topic. Why do either ignore it, accept it, or call it flaming, or trolling? Your a hypocrite.
23) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737064)
Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Then please demonstrate to us how it does not fit in with the things you are discussing here, while it does fit in to the context of wherever the post was before. Your move.



That is clever, because I have one standard by which I answer questions, means I cannot answer questions in accordance with that standard.

You must be a carpenter who never built a thing.

There is one standard for human behavior, and that resolves to mental processing which is wholly linguistic, both branches logic and analogic.

You may skirt issues by not recognizing it, but it is a fact.

And furthermore, how is it you demand of me, what you do not demand either of yourself or others?
24) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737061)
Posted 26 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Not until it is recognized that the mind has a biologically determined job to perform.

Every life support system of the body has a healthy diet and a healthy product. When that is not recognized for the mind, you have what is called at best, a stupid society, which is factually a dysfunctional society.

You treat the mind differently than what it is, you don't get the right product.

There will always be the insane, but in our current status, we are actually creating dysfunctional people.

The mind learns by example. When you create a technological society which removes craft learning from the population, you are decreasing their learning environment and increasing psychological instability.



This post does not belong here. It got here as an act of moderator censorship. Other posts above are acts of social intolerance.

Although a board needs moderators, it does not nether either of the above.
25) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737031)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Not until it is recognized that the mind has a biologically determined job to perform.

Every life support system of the body has a healthy diet and a healthy product. When that is not recognized for the mind, you have what is called at best, a stupid society, which is factually a dysfunctional society.

You treat the mind differently than what it is, you don't get the right product.

There will always be the insane, but in our current status, we are actually creating dysfunctional people.

The mind learns by example. When you create a technological society which removes craft learning from the population, you are decreasing their learning environment and increasing psychological instability.
26) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737022)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Or again, equality itself, as a function of mind, also determines pattern recognition; which again determines levels of intelligence.

The psychology is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind. Therefore, as was pointed out by great minds, education of a population, which is not the same thing as indoctrination, is the first political goal of a sapient species.

Education is always aimed at linguistic functionality. This is not supported today. Linguistic functionality is not being illiterate in a dozen languages, but the ability of a mind to abstract concepts from the environment, or as Plato put it, the ability to see the similar idea in many examples, pattern recognition.

This is one reason I am fascinated with the Judeo-Christian Scripture. It uses pattern recognition to test the reader. It will say one thing to look bad and then it will say the same thing, the same concept, to look good. It does this from cover to cover, and it is done deliberately as it is always referencing the same basic elements. Fascinating. It is even stated plainly what one must do to read it, judge not by appearance but by righteous judgment.

It is the same method used in I.Q. testing.
27) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737019)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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The greatest minds in politics are those who actually know what the function of a mind is. Stated by Socrates, exampled by Plato, and demonstrated by the Judeo-Christian Scripture, Judgment,

Put into a puzzle for man to figure out, and determine if he does know judgment,

"To regulate behavior so as to turn the past into the future and to bring a future to pass."

Or again, in more metaphorical terms;

The testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy.

In the laboratory, with certain givens produce a specific result. They all mean, one and the same thing.
28) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737015)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Exactly, and that starts with not even knowing what the business of a mind is.
29) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737013)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Take an example of why there is such a thing as politics; an elementary class room.

Most of the students are reading Spot, Dick, and Jane. One student is reading The Grapes of Wrath.

Now, everyone is content to do their own reading. There is no conflict unless, some individuals question why it is that that they are reading the one, while others are reading the other. Then the conflict is actually based on a child's belief that standards of behavior are determined by an alpha animal.

In such an environment, of alpha animal hierarchy there are policemen which are dedicated to keeping the animal kingdom in a certain pecking order,

However, that poor student reading Steinbeck, firmly grasps onto the concept of Nomocracy, that human behavior is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind. His only policeman is the word.
30) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737008)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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yawn .....



http://psychcentral.com/disorders/adhd/
31) Message boards : Politics : Equality. (Message 1737006)
Posted 25 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Umm can someone EXPLAIN what he just said and how that has anything to do with Equality for those of us with only a high school education .

Man that went way over my head Yep Zombu2 YAWN!!!

guess what ppl I'M back crunching so run for the hills the mad ozzie is back aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



https://www.khanacademy.org/coach/dashboard
32) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736727)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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A woman is factually not only the most dangerous animal in all of creation, she is also the most beautiful.

Rubbish!

4 wives? About time you learned to get it right then. Don't come crying around here for sympathy.


Obviously, you don't know a simply fact about logic, such as common grammar, the analog content comes from your own mind. So, thinking that I am crying by simply stating a fact, does not indicate my view of the facts, but yours. I don't recall anything that indicated I wanted a worthless sympathetic response from anyone.

Secondly, being ignorant of any facts, how do you conclude that I didn't have it right other than your own obvious obsession with yourself?



Are you trying to find out how many people you can wind up and piss off ? Coz if that's your objective you are managing it in every thread you start or contribute to . You won't get very far by only listening to only your point of view and ignoring everyone else .
I think myself your just a wind up merchant and ain't worth the " steam off my p#/s "



Really? I posted very clear and concise statements, just when did I become responsible for behavior which had absolutely nothing to do with the topic?

You must spend a great deal of time in blaming other people for your own behavior. Must be easier for you.
33) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736721)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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A woman is factually not only the most dangerous animal in all of creation, she is also the most beautiful.

Rubbish!

4 wives? About time you learned to get it right then. Don't come crying around here for sympathy.


Obviously, you don't know a simply fact about logic, such as common grammar, the analog content comes from your own mind. So, thinking that I am crying by simply stating a fact, does not indicate my view of the facts, but yours. I don't recall anything that indicated I wanted a worthless sympathetic response from anyone.

Secondly, being ignorant of any facts, how do you conclude that I didn't have it right other than your own obvious obsession with yourself?
34) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736719)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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A woman is factually not only the most dangerous animal in all of creation, she is also the most beautiful.


Balderdash!



I only have my own experience to go by, after all, I have been married four times. I like marriage, a personal weakness of mine. A childhood dream, hand in hand exploring reality itself. Truly a magic vision.
35) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736715)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Well, in language you might prefer, an old poem of mine.

To loose my limitations,
The bonds of mind set free,
To step forth from shadow
and greet God's Galaxy,

To snub the nub of tide in me?
Hell vengeance fire my soul!
I shall! I shall!! I shall!!!
I cry, have nothing more to know.


Have you met Mark?
When he returns from sabbatical, I predict some very interesting discussions.


Well, I have to confess, the topic of this discussion may confuse many, so I will set the record straight. I am homophobic, if you allow the atrocity in the term. Biology determines what is rational and not rational.

A woman is factually not only the most dangerous animal in all of creation, she is also the most beautiful. So, when I set high standards for conceptual ability, it is only out of a concern for self-preservation.
36) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736710)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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I know a few computer languages and have used some of them. All those based on the second order predicate logic like Prolog have failed. Those which prevailed are C and C++, based on less rigorous logic and more empiric. On the other hand, Kurt Goedel has demonstrated the impossibility of an axiomatic logic system capable of including arithmetics.
Tullio


Perhaps Kurt was ignorant of a plain demonstrable fact of language. Logics, derived from the term logos, are simply indexing systems for analog content. To claim that an indexing system differ from indexing systems as an indexing system is a self referential fallacy. So, claiming that an indexing system which is a logic is not a logic, only means that Kurt could not, in Aristotle's words, think no better than a vegetable.

I simply happen to agree with Aristotle, because the principles of a logic do not differ from the principles of logic.

Secondly, as was pointed out long ago, and can be reached by the simplest reflection, all you can do is name abstractions, i.e. establish a one-to-one correspondence. This is a self evident fact, or axiom, the only one actually required for language. Aristotle, himself pointed out, all other so called axioms are derived from this, i.e. they are not actually axioms at all.
37) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736692)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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I have actually created a new analog language, rigorously proofed with Mathcad and Sketchpad. Perhaps you should try answering the question. I know that avoidance is an answer, but hey, I like to give at least a second try.
38) Message boards : Politics : existance of god (Message 1736690)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Could P8659 be a troll?


Absolutely!

I could even be a tree in somebodies back yard.
39) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736687)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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Really? You ever hear of the concept of a closed system?

For example, no matter what you do in arithmetic with numbers, the product is always a number?

Or what you say in words, the product is always words?

Or what you do with wood, the product is always wooden?

How is it that language is not a biological product, unless you imagine yourself as some kind of mystical sprite that happen to land on a flower?
40) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Looking for a Life Project Partner (Message 1736681)
Posted 24 Oct 2015 by Profile Philosopher8659
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You say you know language.

If that is true, then perhaps you can explain something to me.

Language is a biological function, and all biological functions have a common goal, can you honestly say that the way mankind conceives of language today is expressing that common goal?

And, if one does not know the factual biological connection, nor how language is derived from their own biology, that they in fact do not know language, they are at best proto-linguistic? And further, that being proto-linguistic, they do not actually know what they are saying?

In the face of this, I say, that the ability to manufacture strings of words in a socially acceptable manner does not prove linguistic ability, nor does it indicate good or bad behavior. Also, that being illiterate in one language is sufficient for me. In other words, sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.


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