Posts by xpozd

1) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118) (Message 2029588)
Posted 28 Jan 2020 by Profile xpozd
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each task i did get shows 52d,14:37:xx the xx changes like a countdown.
Im guessing thats normal, i just never seen that before.


turns out thats a setting on boinc tasks that i usually dont use.
so i guess all is solved for now.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118) (Message 2029563)
Posted 27 Jan 2020 by Profile xpozd
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@Richard Haselgrove
thanks for that, i re-installed everything with newer versions,
that took care of that issue with the messages.
and i can download new tasks now again.

I appreciate getting new tasks now.
but its like the tasks are showing a countdown for the deadline.
each task i did get shows 52d,14:37:xx the xx changes like a countdown.
Im guessing thats normal, i just never seen that before.
ill just run it as usual and see where it goes.

thanks
3) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118) (Message 2029504)
Posted 27 Jan 2020 by Profile xpozd
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Almost a week now with no work units/tasks at all...
i see others say they get them.
yet all i see is this:

-Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
-Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

should i be worried ?
4) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118) (Message 2029213)
Posted 25 Jan 2020 by Profile xpozd
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@Jimbocous
thanks for the reply,
I re-ran the Lunatics installer and re-generated the app_info.xml.
then tried getting new tasks again but i keep getting the same notices.

- Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
- Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

this seems like a longer than usual time to go with no tasks at all.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118) (Message 2029017)
Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Profile xpozd
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Please help me find out if this problem is my computer,
or with the seti@home website.

Everything was working fine before the Jan. 21 maintenance downtime.
I have not been able to receive any tasks since.

The messages i get when trying to update are:
- Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
- Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

thats all i see regarding this problem.

Also i dont know if this matters, but since the problem started,
i did remove my app_info.xml figuring it would renew with my website
options i have set but it hasnt been downloaded yet since i havent
got any new tasks yet since the 21st.

i am not sure if this is a seti@home issue or if i will need to re-install
my boinc and seti@home....

suggestions please.
thanks in advance.
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1761275)
Posted 1 Feb 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi BilBg
Im getting a general understanding between GPU & CPU tasks.

When i said
"I had no trouble" running SETI@home v7 on this NVIDIA

Honestly, i recall i did have trouble at first when i 1st installed seti v7.
which i believe you same guys helped me with those ones as well.

But once everything was working ok i had no further problems with it.
(until now when i changed to v8)

But anyway everything seems to getting back to kind of 'normal' for me now.
thanks for the help again.
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760857)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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thanks Ageless,

i just wasnt sure if it might of been an issue or not.
just thought i would mention it.

i was just wondering about install paths.
if you noticed boinc is not installed on my windows drive.
im not sure if thats a good/bad thing.
i dont think it would really matter, or does it?
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760691)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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hi rob,
1st of all i was not addressing you. if you saw the reply it was to BilBg.
2nd i am not stupid, i have said quite a few times now if you read my replies
that i understood about times not bieng right and so on.
yet you keep hammering me about it even when i only reference it.
i do appreciate the advice and help, but not the hype.
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760629)
Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi BilBg,
the VLARs might of been left from other tries to get lunatics installed,
But i did have 8 or more of them i did complete a few
but also I aborted a few, as you can probably see by looking at my tasks.

Normally ive only done CPU tasks as mentioned earlier in this post.
ive never knowingly selected to do GPU tasks.
so usually i would not select anything that was obviously for GPU.

Uh Oh - CUDA version 2.2

dont forget as my signature shows, my acer aspire x1200 pc, is kind of custom.
as it does not originally support windows xp, i think thats why the
version is like 2.2 i believe it was a universal driver compatible with xp.
so i think its best to try to make due with what i have until i decide to upgrade my windows.

Also note, i think i made a few posts when i 1st joined seti about issues i had
with tasks related to the same cuda driver thats why i never selected it again,
and only ran CPU tasks.

But you need to change or disable CUDA app with the driver you use now!

The 'Use NVIDIA GPU' is already unselected in SETI@home preferences,
I never selected it before,
but it was selected in the lunatics app when i installed it.
(just never selected on the website) only 'use cpu' is selected there.

Also, I just recieved a bunch of new tasks. 44 in all. (says 9 days worth)
i hope that is just an estimate or something is broken.
in my boinc tasks options i have selected
minimum work buffer = 2.00 days
additional work buffer= 3.00 days
that should be 5 days worth of tasks not 9.

i was just curious about that considering all the other time variations.
its probably nothing but thought id mention it.
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760463)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi Rob,
Yes i know, I was just relaying the results of what i did to BilBg.
i reinstalled the lunatics app as he mentioned since i wasnt sure if i selected
the SSE3 or not the 1st time.

I did not know that about
Nvidia cards do not like VLARs


Here is the 1st 30 lines, from boinc tasks,because of all the spaces etc
i tried to edit it to better fit here, but it is all 30 lines.

cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_intelx86
log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
Data directory: F:\Seti@home\data
Running under account Administrator
CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9200 (driver version unknown, CUDA version 2.2,
compute capability 1.1, 254MB, 219MB available, 29 GFLOPS peak)

Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
Host name: oblivion
Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
[Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 2]

Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush
mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow

OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
Memory: 2.25 GB physical, 5.47 GB virtual
Disk: 243.27 GB total, 153.43 GB free
Local time is UTC -5 hours
VirtualBox version: 5.0.10
URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7609404; resource share 100
General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 26-Jan-2016 23:24:10)
Computer location: home
General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
Reading preferences override file
Preferences:
max memory usage when active: 1841.98MB
max memory usage when idle: 1957.11MB
max disk usage: 15.00GB
suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 30%
(to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
task 04se15ab.4037.13155.6.33.112.vlar_1 resumed by user
task 01no15ab.1386.6207.14.41.177.vlar_1 resumed by user
Message from task: 0
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760412)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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hi BilBg,
Ok, I installed the lunatics application over the old one as suggested.
I selected multibeam v8 (CPU)-includes legacy v7
and set it for SSE3.
(did not select any astropulse or whatever it is, settings)

Then I selected multibeam v8 (nv -cuda) includes legacy v7
and enabled process multibeam tasks on gpu (nv -cuda)
and selected lunatics_x41zi_win32_cuda32.

however this did not appear to make any difference.
everything seemed the same as before i did it.
(i think i already had the same settings and just overwrote it with the same)
i just have 6 tasks showing, all ending with .vlar_0 or .vlar_1
they are averaging 7 hours to complete even though the time shows as 19 hrs.
(i know its not accurate time, i only mentioned what it says)
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760252)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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hi BilBg,

What is "stock boinc"?
my mistake, i misunderstood.

Do you have now CPU (SSE3) app running?

Honestly, i think I do, but not sure, but i will look into that when i finish
the current running tasks. (ive selected not to receive anymore until i do)

The ones i am doing seem to be finishing faster than the displayed time.
so should not be to long to complete them, then i will try what you said.
(they should finish sometime tomorrow)

Was my mistake saying 'bad tasks',
I was making reference to the discussion with Ageless earlier in the post.
where he said
All of these have certain thresholds. Go over and the task drops out early.
They're not really bad tasks, that was a bit of an error from me, but they're tasks which have to be looked at by the project before they're resent to try again.
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760216)
Posted 29 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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hi BilBg,
So are you saying it was a bug in seti 8 as well as seti 6 & 7.?
or a bug in the stock boinc ?

As far as my tasks go, i only have 8 current tasks im working with.
(i know the website shows more)
I kind of messed up on the last lunatics app install (wrong one)
as a result it downloaded new tasks but then i changed the lunatics app again
after you suggested it and didnt pay attention to those tasks.
after i got the CUDA 3.2 app installed the tasks i had vanished from boinc.
and they were not aborted.
so like 22 tasks out of 30 that show in progress i dont have access to.
(not with current settings) so I dont know what to do about those.

Im going to try to complete the 8 that i do have.
although all of them show 19+ hours each.
I just hope its not all bad ones also.
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1760080)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi BilBg
appreciate the help,
(I didn't go to stock first, I was using manually edited app_info.xml and now just installed apps from Lunatics_Win32_v0.44_setup)

I just left everything as it was after installing the apps.
i did not edit any files, (I wouldnt know what to edit)
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759801)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Also BilBg,
You need only one more "good" "Lunatics" task to have good estimates:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7609404

I seen it mentioned about completing 10 or more tasks first,
But i did not understand why that was needed when updating seti 7 to seti 8.
That might of been the only problem ive had, if that is needed to be done.
16) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759755)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi Rob,
i do appreciate the help.
In your situation I would avoid the Lunatics apps until you are used to how your computer is running.


Not to seem snarky or anything, but i know how my pc is running,
I had seti 7 working perfectly fine without any of the issues like these.
Then as soon as i updated to version 8 that all changed & I had issues.
and for some reason now i cant get any v8 tasks to work like they did in V7.

everyone says there is nothing wrong with V8, and that its more or less my PC.
if that was the case i should have been able to update from seti v7 to v8
even without changing my boinc or boinc task setting, without issues,
but its not that simple. and now im just trying to get it all working again.
hoping to get things working as good as they did when i used seti 7.
17) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759749)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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hi BilBg,
Your CPU (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+) should have SSE3 (SSE3 and SSE2 apps are almost the same speed, they are faster than the stock)

according to cpu-z the instructions are MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64, AMD-V

Your GPU (NVIDIA GeForce 9200 (253MB)) is probably too slow and low RAM to be of real use (but you can try CUDA 3.2 app if you wish).

well i dont know about my NVIDIA being slow, probably is compared to some of the rigs out there, i just know in seti v7 i had no trouble like this. all the tasks were running smooth, no issues then I changed to version 8 and all heck broke loose so i didnt know what was going on.
(only thing i changed originally was the seti version)

anyways, I added the CUDA 3.2 app. as suggested.

Question though, all the CPU tasks i had vanished from boinc tasks,
(not deleted or aborted though) they seem hidden from boinc tasks now.
since the lunatics app was installed.

How can I get those back?
or would i have to remove lunatics app to get those tasks to show again. ?

thanks for the help.
18) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759565)
Posted 27 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Hi Rob,

1 - SETI v8 is for both
2 - In your account preferences you can select to run on only CPU, or only GPU, or both CPU and GPU

Thank you for the help.

If I only want to run CPU tasks, (no GPU) should i avoid lunatics app ?
or is there a specific way to set it up just for CPU tasks.
Paying closer attention when I was trying to install it before,
I noticed it seems to insist on selecting a GPU option to install lunatics.
19) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759359)
Posted 26 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Ok Just so everyone knows, everything seems fine once again.

I just installed boinc & boinc tasks, (nothing else)
and I received 23 seti 8.8 tasks, all vlar's does not look like any GPU
(estimated 4 days to complete) which for my system.. thats normal.
Now i can get back to doing some crunching.
thanks for any help.
20) Questions and Answers : Windows : V8 very slow & wrong time (Message 1759348)
Posted 26 Jan 2016 by Profile xpozd
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Ok sorry if this all seems confusing,
but just so i can get a better understanding of all this.

1- is seti V8 mostly for GPU or is it a mix of GPU & CPU tasks ?

2- Could I run just seti V8 to do CPU tasks, or do you have to do GPU ones to ?
and if i can do just CPU, what would be suggested besides BOINC.
and is there a proper way to set things up just for CPU tasks.

I was all set up for seti v7 just fine, unfortunately nothing backed up.
and all this mess now has me confused and i cant get boinc to work now.
ive tried changing settings in lunatics application (probably used wrong ones)
as im not used to setting up to do GPU tasks. never did it successfully before.
which is why i stayed with CPU tasks.

any help would be appreciated.


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