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Message 2118916 - Posted: 7 May 2023, 14:36:25 UTC

We had a food thread long ago that I forgot about until today. I guess it got closed due to inactivity.

Here's a new food thread. Let's see if this one gets any action.

I'd like to talk about diabetes and what healty snacks you fellow diabetics have found.

Or something else.
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Message 2118918 - Posted: 7 May 2023, 15:30:10 UTC
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Nuts!

See:

Zoe - nuts ... healthy ... science


Also to recommend:

Olives, or grapes...


Enjoy!
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Message 2118925 - Posted: 7 May 2023, 18:42:22 UTC

Celery is a good choice.
But be warned. Celery is one of a select group of foods that can induce severe allergic reactions that can lead to shock and death, so don’t go slipping celery into an unsuspecting visitors green smoothie!
I know you are thinking Wha…?! But it can happen.

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Message 2118943 - Posted: 8 May 2023, 3:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 2118925.  

Yes, celery can cause anything from mild to severe and even debilitating reactions.

I have a friend who has a photosensitivity reaction if he eats celery and gets exposed to the UV rays of the sun. He gets blisters on his face, arms or anything exposed to the sun for more than 30 minutes.

Celery Allergy, Symptoms, and How to Treat It?
Celery root is one of the most common causes of food allergies in pollen-sensitive individuals. As well as celery, carrot, coriander, dill, and parsley are all members of the Umbelliferae family. All over the world, this plant is called Apiumgraveolans.

...Overall, celery sensitization was observed in 6.8 percent of the general population in 2022.
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Message 2118964 - Posted: 8 May 2023, 13:32:41 UTC - in response to Message 2118943.  
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I have a friend who has a photosensitivity reaction if he eats celery and gets exposed to the UV rays of the sun. He gets blisters on his face, arms or anything exposed to the sun for more than 30 minutes.

Celery Allergy, Symptoms, and How to Treat It?
Celery root is one of the most common causes of food allergies in pollen-sensitive individuals. As well as celery, carrot, coriander, dill, and parsley are all members of the Umbelliferae family. All over the world, this plant is called Apiumgraveolans.

...Overall, celery sensitization was observed in 6.8 percent of the general population in 2022.


Nice... learned something new today so thank you. :^) Umbelliferae is the same family as giant hogweed which has this phototoxicity to an extreme degree and is dangerous in many other respects as well. Did not know that celery was also a member and so even has a little bit of this effect.
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Message 2118969 - Posted: 8 May 2023, 15:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 2118943.  

Mmmm...

I really like mi carrots and coriander!

Then also, just as well how I like celery and never noticed any ill effects.

Of all the foods, the photosensitivity reaction is quite a surprise to hear!


Eat in the dark??...

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Message 2118976 - Posted: 8 May 2023, 20:48:51 UTC
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Celery. Yuk. It is a good idea, though. I'd have to spread it with peanut butter or creamed cheese. That's how my mom would do when we were kids and company was coming over. I'll definitely buy some celery on my next shopping trip.

I know about all the things you've mentioned. The problem with me and fresh fruit/vegetables is that they often go bad before I eat all of them. That's because I don't shop frequently so when I buy fruits/vegetables, I'm stuck with only buying what won't go bad before I eat it. That leaves me with days when I don't have those things to snack on.

I'm not allergic to anything, really, although I do have a weird reaction to walnuts. My gums get irritated. I don't know if I'd call that an allergy. I'm the only one in my family who has that reaction to them.

I like other nuts, but they usually have to be seasoned. For example, I like pistachios that are seasoned with salt and pepper. I also like "smokehouse" almonds.


(Coriander is called cilantro these days. At least it is in the USA. I had to look it up because I wasn't sure what coriander was, but I'm very familiar with cilantro, this being very common in Mexican and Tex-mex dishes, which are pleantiful in my area and others across the country.)
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Message 2118985 - Posted: 8 May 2023, 22:04:33 UTC

I enjoy using celery, peppers, carrots, breadsticks, whatever else, cut for dipping in a selection of hummus, salsa, whatever...

And then there is the wonder of home baked bread dipped in extra virgin olive oil and balsamic vinegar, seasoned with whatever mix of herbs and spices.

There's some very good fun healthy combinations to enjoy!


Enjoy a healthy enjoy!
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Message 2119041 - Posted: 9 May 2023, 23:02:33 UTC - in response to Message 2118985.  

I enjoy using celery, peppers, carrots, breadsticks, whatever else, cut for dipping in a selection of hummus, salsa, whatever...

And then there is the wonder of home baked bread dipped in extra virgin olive oil and balsamic vinegar, seasoned with whatever mix of herbs and spices.

There's some very good fun healthy combinations to enjoy!


Enjoy a healthy enjoy!
Martin


I love bread. I'll sometimes buy a loaf of Italian bread and eat it all alone with butter. But bread is full of carbs so I can't do that too often. I shouldn't do it at all. :-(
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Message 2119045 - Posted: 10 May 2023, 0:35:46 UTC

Lately, my go-to snacks have been unsalted cashews or unsalted almonds.

I also have a banana and 2 cups of coffee - black, every morning as part of my breakfast routine.

I try to stay away from "junk food" such as pretzels or corn chips, but will allow myself to have some about once a month as a small reward.

I don't drink soda but will have 12oz can of a off brand "light beer" with dinner. Otherwise it's water during the rest of the waking hours.
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Message 2119072 - Posted: 10 May 2023, 15:19:32 UTC

I understand the French bread. I like butter garlic thin sliced loafs. I use kitchen scissors to cut it up for use in soups.
I have been thinking about chili lately. I have a bunch of 1.5 cup Rubbermaid food containers. Good for portion control. Toss filled containers in the freezer for later snacking attacks. Microwave and eat. Jello is good too.

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Message 2119099 - Posted: 10 May 2023, 21:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 2119072.  

I understand the French bread. I like butter garlic thin sliced loafs. I use kitchen scissors to cut it up for use in soups.
I have been thinking about chili lately. I have a bunch of 1.5 cup Rubbermaid food containers. Good for portion control. Toss filled containers in the freezer for later snacking attacks. Microwave and eat. Jello is good too.

I will make a pot of chili in the next couple of days. It's low-carb and a pot will last several days. It's also very economical. I'd better remember to stock up on my Beano. LOL! (But really.)
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Message 2119285 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 0:46:00 UTC
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I've ordered some groceries. My order is filled with "snacks" and very little actual food, as in meals. LOL! I've got nuts, seeds, cheese, celery, and more. I'm also going to start making my breakfast smoothies again. The ingredients are typical, I think: plain yogurt; a splash of fruit juice; a handful of frozen fruits; a banana; and some vegan, fruit-flavored protein powder.

My plan is to eliminate as much sugar as possible while still eating and snacking, which will really be a struggle. I am one of those who is addicted to sugar.

Wish me luck.

P.S. I should have done this a long time ago.
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Message 2119287 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 1:11:32 UTC - in response to Message 2119285.  

If you can get the sugar and especially the carbs out of your habit for a while, you will find the urges to spurge decrease in both intensity and frequency.
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Message 2119296 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 6:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 2119285.  
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I've ordered some groceries. My order is filled with "snacks" and very little actual food, as in meals. LOL! I've got nuts, seeds, cheese, celery, and more. I'm also going to start making my breakfast smoothies again. The ingredients are typical, I think: plain yogurt; a splash of fruit juice; a handful of frozen fruits; a banana; and some vegan, fruit-flavored protein powder.

My plan is to eliminate as much sugar as possible while still eating and snacking, which will really be a struggle. I am one of those who is addicted to sugar.

Wish me luck.

P.S. I should have done this a long time ago.

Don't smoothies just turn fruit into sugar, defeating the original aim of eliminating sugar.

edit] British Heart Foundation (BHF) - 5 reasons why smoothies are not a shortcut to a healthy diet
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Message 2119307 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 13:08:30 UTC - in response to Message 2119296.  
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Don't smoothies just turn fruit into sugar, defeating the original aim of eliminating sugar.

The "baddie" is the refined sugars (cane sugar, sugar beet, and the worst and killer 'corn syrup').

My reading around suggests smoothies let you all too easily overdose on a meal too quickly: You're not slowed down for the intake by having to chew the food!

Hence: Enjoy a small taster? Make your own from fresh ingredients and only lightly/briefly process so as to leave chunky bits?


Take a look at:

Zoe - How to control blood sugar spikes


It's a fascinating tasty topic to explore!

Enjoy!
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Message 2119308 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 13:16:20 UTC - in response to Message 2119285.  
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... while still eating and snacking...


My own 'trick' was to become interested in food and to move from "sweet" to instead "tasty".

A good help was that I discovered a '1001' ways to make baked/microwaved potatoes interesting with fun bits. Very quick in the microwave, and very good to feel you've enjoyed eating a snack. (Also good for a brief enforced break whilst preparing it.)

And then... There's always Patatas Bravas! (If cooking with oil, good to use Extra Virgin oil.)


Good luck!

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Message 2119311 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 14:17:22 UTC
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Another way is through portion control. Just dividing a mega bag of say chicken nuggets into smaller ziplock bags is a viable alternative. It is much easier for me to just grab a snack bag size than to reach for the big bag and of completely fill the plate. Same goes for Totino Pizza rolls.

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Message 2119317 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 16:20:33 UTC - in response to Message 2119296.  

Don't smoothies just turn fruit into sugar, defeating the original aim of eliminating sugar.

I've been told eat fruit whole, never ever juice. Juice concentrates the natural sugars into a smaller volume, hence big spike. Also the digestive tract doesn't have to mash up (exercise) the meal to extract the sugar. Finally the act of chewing is part of making the body think it has a meal and satiating hunger. As smoothies do the chewing part for you (without saliva), you have to decide if you want processed fruit.

What I'd suggest is get two oranges the same size. Turn one into a smoothie, note size, and have it. Some time later eat the other whole. Which one provides more satisfaction?

If you can train yourself to crave umami rather than sugar. It is far better for you in the long term.

Final note, we are obviously talking type 2, type 1 even celery has to be planned for in advance.
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Message 2119376 - Posted: 14 May 2023, 3:41:11 UTC - in response to Message 2119296.  
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I've ordered some groceries. My order is filled with "snacks" and very little actual food, as in meals. LOL! I've got nuts, seeds, cheese, celery, and more. I'm also going to start making my breakfast smoothies again. The ingredients are typical, I think: plain yogurt; a splash of fruit juice; a handful of frozen fruits; a banana; and some vegan, fruit-flavored protein powder.

My plan is to eliminate as much sugar as possible while still eating and snacking, which will really be a struggle. I am one of those who is addicted to sugar.

Wish me luck.

P.S. I should have done this a long time ago.

Don't smoothies just turn fruit into sugar, defeating the original aim of eliminating sugar.

edit] British Heart Foundation (BHF) - 5 reasons why smoothies are not a shortcut to a healthy diet


No. Juice is when you take something and squeeze all the liquid out of it, throwing the remainder away. I don't do that, except for the already-squeezed orange juice, and I buy OJ with lots of pulp. What I do is take whole fruit and put it in the blender, consuming the whole thing. It's similar to swallowing a whole strawberry and letting your body break it down. You still get the "pulp" of the fruit.

IMHO.

(And I'll believe this until I die.)
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