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Message 2141563 - Posted: 3 Oct 2024, 20:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 2141561.  

... And for just one very significant 'footnote', note:

... a hostage, kept captive for 10 years since she was just 11, has been rescued in Gaza.

The woman is a Yazidi, a religious group that lives across parts of Iraq and Syria.

Named as Fawzia Amin Sido, she was taken hostage in northern Iraq when she was just a girl by terror group Islamic State.

IS massacred or took hostage thousands of Yazidi people.

She was then moved to Gaza where, Israel said, an air strike killed her captor, allowing her to flee elsewhere.

Now aged 21, Ms Sido has returned to her family in Iraq...

How many more examples of such tragedy are there across that entire region?

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Message 2141580 - Posted: 3 Oct 2024, 23:35:38 UTC
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Benji is to blame? That seems to be a rather one-sided view.

I miss the demand the Mullahs refrain from sending further cargo planes filled with missiles to Syrian airbases near Lebanon; which happen to be used by the Russians too.

It is more likely it all will stop when Tehran looks like Gaza city. I really hope that those responsible for aggression and terror come to their senses before. One thing seems certain: Israel is no longer tolerating the missile terror of the Mullahs and their proxies in Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen. It is up to the Mullahs to understood this turning point and adjust their policies accordingly.

What makes me doubt was the information the Iranian president Peseshkian was not informed of the massive missile attack. That means Khamenei and the Mullahs alone are in command of the Iranian military.

I fear a lot of civilian merchant ships will be set on fire in the Red and Arabian Sea before the Mullahs will come (or brought?) to their senses. After all, it is Putin who wants to drag the West into a war in the Middle East to dissuade them from supporting Ukraine. Anyone noted, Putin's prime minister Mishustin officially visited Tehran two days before Iran's latest rocket attack?
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Message 2141585 - Posted: 4 Oct 2024, 3:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 2141580.  

I suspect there is one supreme leader that is just waiting for Benji to actually engage and not tit for tat. I suspect he has a few thousand cheap missiles ready to send so poor Benji runs out of chrome dome and then they will be followed by several dozen highly capable ICBM types with some large warheads, flight path not cruise missile but several hundred miles high so they come back at orbital speed. Only USA and China have interceptors at those speeds and there aren't many of them. He will score many direct hits. And WWIII starts all because some Zionist settler steals land by murder.
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Message 2141587 - Posted: 4 Oct 2024, 4:52:15 UTC

Benji is to blame? That seems to be a rather one-sided view.
Now that is 1 totally hypocritical response you realise? I had at least a 2 views about all this 3 or so years ago, but that changed drastically 2yrs ago.
And WWIII starts all because some Zionist settler steals land by murder.
Exactly, and Adolf Benji is supporting them to the hilt.
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Message 2141592 - Posted: 4 Oct 2024, 10:14:50 UTC - in response to Message 2141587.  

And so an apocalypse of Iranian and Russian Mullah missiles raining down upon the whole of Israel is the right way to go?

What of the Israelies and their children?

What of all the other Christian and Muslim peoples and their children that peacefully live there also?


And how many merchant seamen are yet to die in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf...?


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Message 2141599 - Posted: 4 Oct 2024, 12:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 2141592.  

And so an apocalypse of Iranian and Russian Mullah missiles raining down upon the whole of Israel is the right way to go?

Benji begs, Benji gets.
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Message 2141606 - Posted: 4 Oct 2024, 16:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 2141599.  

And so an apocalypse of Iranian and Russian Mullah missiles raining down upon the whole of Israel is the right way to go?

Benji begs, Benji gets.

... And who started it all?


A definitive answer is required, with full history and references...

Or... How do we look forward to a positive future without further death, genocide, holocaust, or enforced migration?


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Message 2141641 - Posted: 5 Oct 2024, 14:45:51 UTC - in response to Message 2141606.  

... And who started it all?
Moses.
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Message 2141652 - Posted: 5 Oct 2024, 20:52:54 UTC

Of cause he is Joe and until the elections are over he'll continue ignoring you in the hope that Donny wins so that his slaughter plans can be increased.

Biden unsure if Netanyahu holding up Gaza deal to influence US election.

Macron has it right.

Netanyahu slams Macron for urging weapons deliveries halt.

And a bit further down that page is "‘An insult’: Irish president slams Israel over request to relocate UNIFIL" which I can't provide a direct link for.

Ireland’s President Higgins has slammed Israel for demanding and threatening the relocation of a UN peacekeeping force, UNIFIL, from southern Lebanon.

“It is outrageous that the [Israeli army] have threatened this peacekeeping force and sought to have them evacuate the villages they are defending. Indeed, Israel is demanding that the entire UNIFIL operating under UN mandates walk away,” Higgins said in a statement.

“This is not only an insult to the most important global institution to which 193 members are committed, but it is also an insult to the soldiers and their families who have taken risks so we might all live in peace and protect the most vulnerable,” he added.

His comments came after the Israeli military asked UN peacekeepers earlier this week to prepare to relocate more than five kilometres (three miles) from the Blue Line – the border between Israel and Lebanon.

Ireland’s contingent of 347 is part of an allocation of 10,000 UNIFIL soldiers from 50 countries.

The UN mission has been in the troubled southern region since 2006 as part of a UN Security Council’s mandate ruling that the Lebanese army and UNIFIL would have been the exclusive armed presence south between the Blue Line and Lebanon’s Litani River.
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Message 2141701 - Posted: 6 Oct 2024, 23:56:21 UTC

This is very real:


Isreal Wants to Make This the Last War


... And an integral part of that is to have an understanding of why The Holocaust happened...


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Message 2141702 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 0:08:39 UTC - in response to Message 2141701.  
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The comments to that very stark interview say a lot.


Where do we go with Iran from here?...

Or does the rest of the world leave the planet?


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Message 2141703 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 0:14:07 UTC - in response to Message 2141652.  

UNIFIL have done nothing to stop the deadly attacks of war against Israel.

Simples.

How many bludgeoning punches to your face would you take?...



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Message 2141718 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 11:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 2141599.  

And so an apocalypse of Iranian and Russian Mullah missiles raining down upon the whole of Israel is the right way to go?

Benji begs, Benji gets.
This can also be seen the other way around: The Mullahs beg, the Mullahs get.

I admit there's something in Gary's theory of a supreme leader with thousands missiles ready to send. But they have to be shipped (and arrive intact) first at the launch sites of Mullah's proxies... In the last week IDF started to 'convince' cargo plane operators not to transport goods from Iran to Lebanon or Syria. As for ICBMs... It's easy to launch a dozen of them but you better don't do that without a credible, reliable airforce and state-of the art air defence. I don't know that the Mullahs have either of these two.
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Message 2141719 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 12:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 2141652.  

The UN mission has been in the troubled southern region since 2006 as part of a UN Security Council’s mandate ruling that the Lebanese army and UNIFIL would have been MUST BE the exclusive armed presence south between the Blue Line and Lebanon’s Litani River.
That's the crucial detail why Higgins better had kept quiet.

“It is outrageous that the [Israeli army] have threatened this peacekeeping force and sought to have them evacuate the villages they are defending. [...]
UNIFIL's task is to monitor and report cross-border war acts and aggressions. UNIFIL or any other UN peace keeping force never defended anything since the Korean War in 1953. Higgins is ill informed and suffers from a long known antisemitic bias:

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/10/07/we-have-not-received-threats-unifil-spokesman-responds-to-claim-made-by-president-higgins-on-irish-troops-in-lebanon/
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/05/26/chief-rabbi-criticises-higgins-for-dismissal-of-anti-semitism-in-ireland/
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Message 2141722 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 12:30:17 UTC - in response to Message 2141606.  
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Or... How do we look forward to a positive future without further death, genocide, holocaust, or enforced migration?
I leave out 'migration' but the first three from death to holocaust could be easily achieved by taking out the Mullahs from this eternal game. The sad thing is: How to reliably kick them out? Benji seems convinced that he is on the home stretch...

Isreal Wants to Make This the Last War
I don't believe Israel (alone) is capable to make it the 'Last War'. Such ambitious strategic goals require coalition partners and quite the right balance of military & economic pressure AND diplomacy. (what could Iranian's powerful outside of the Mullah's inner circle gain from stepping down?). Partners for Benji's plans and related diplomacy seems missing.
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Message 2141724 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 12:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 2141718.  

But they have to be shipped (and arrive intact) first at the launch sites of Mullah's proxies....
If the supreme leader himself is sending them, then they launch direct from his factories. His buddies Putin, Xi and Kim can be convinced to send some direct as well. Thus the IC in ICBM.
Benji wants to live in a high radiation environment.
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Message 2141732 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 14:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 2141724.  

If the supreme leader himself is sending them, then they launch direct from his factories. His buddies Putin, Xi and Kim can be convinced to send some direct as well. Thus the IC in ICBM.
Benji wants to live in a high radiation environment.
Mullahs... eventually. Never Putin, Xi and Kim.
If so... the Mullahs hopefully noted that Israel operates a series of larger than usual German-made hydrogen fuel cell powered submarines, some with vertical launch capabilities. The BM in ICBM then better hit all of them with the first strike.

Someone noted shortly before Iran's last missile attack (which the Mullahs announced in advance) that the US nuclear command post took off and flew holding patterns over the Midwest (some modified military Boeing 707). Why? The classic understanding of a nuclear power is that it previously demonstrated its capability through nuclear tests (see Pakistan, North Korea). Do they have secret disturbing news?
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Message 2141735 - Posted: 7 Oct 2024, 17:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 2141732.  
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Good to see the US military stay prepared...

(There are no niceties or sense when gaming the military...)


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Message 2141753 - Posted: 8 Oct 2024, 4:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 2141732.  

Do they have secret disturbing news?
<classified>Yes</classified>
As i said Putin, Xi and Kim might be arm twisted into something; to see some value in goading the USA into.
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