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Message 2132424 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 0:24:13 UTC

Genocide, slaughter and most certainly war crimes are being committed and that is all you can call it. :-(

'They are shooting at us.' A fleeing Gaza family is killed along with the medics sent to find them.

The sound of gunfire crackled over the phone as the teenage girl hid in the car and spoke. An Israeli tank was near the vehicle as she and her family were trying to heed Israel’s call to evacuate their home in Gaza.

Something had gone horribly wrong. Everyone in the vehicle was dead, the teen said. Everyone but her and her 5-year-old female cousin, Hind.

“They are shooting at us,” 15-year-old Layan told the Palestinian Red Crescent. “The tank is next to me.”

And then there was a burst of gunfire. She screamed and fell silent.

That began a desperate rescue attempt by medics with the Palestinian Red Crescent, one of many during the war in Gaza and one that ended Saturday with the discovery of their ambulance, blackened and destroyed.

The two medics were dead. The Palestinian Red Crescent accused Israeli forces of targeting the ambulance as it pulled up near the family's vehicle. The organization said it had coordinated the journey with Israeli forces as in the past.

There was no immediate comment from Israel.

The body of 5-year-old Hind was found, too, along with her family. Twelve days had passed since the phone call.

The world only sees pinhole views of the fighting in Gaza. Few people are let into the besieged territory, communications have been cut multiple times, and only a few journalists are working there.......
And that's because journalists are targets as well.
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Message 2132429 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 7:13:26 UTC

The lying little turd.

Netanyahu promises 'safe passage' to Palestinians ahead of Rafah operation.

But he's already started bombing the crap out of the place.

Gaza mediators warn against Rafah ground invasion after 44 killed in Israeli air strikes.

And the Arab countries have just about had enough of this.
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Message 2132434 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 8:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 2132429.  

In Benji's fantasy world everyone in Gaza is a Hamas so they are all legitimate targets.
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Message 2132440 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 10:51:18 UTC - in response to Message 2132429.  

... And the Arab countries have just about had enough of this.

And what useful positive peaceful solution are those Arab countries offering?

... Other than screaming Holy Jihad and Death and Destruction?...


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Message 2132447 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 11:50:50 UTC
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Why is there no outcry against the humanitarian disaster that has been created by the unholy hegemony that is Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran?

All aided and abetted by the supposed humanitarian relief:

... “Hamas Tunnels” Under UNRWA Facility | Dozens Killed In Rafah | Iran Warns Netanyahu


Note how Egypt and Jordan want nothing to do with that deadly hegemony, or to do anything about it whilst there is some other scapegoat to deal with the problems...

All a very deadly political game...

And people die.

What good and lasting peaceful way out is there?


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Message 2132463 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 20:56:38 UTC

And what useful positive peaceful solution are those Arab countries offering?
This.
....The two leaders spoke after two Egyptian officials and a Western diplomat said Egypt threatened to suspend its peace treaty with Israel if Israeli troops are sent into Rafah, where Egypt fears fighting could push Palestinians into the Sinai Peninsula and force the closure of besieged Gaza's main aid supply route.....

.....All three officials confirmed Egypt's threats, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief reporters on the sensitive negotiations. Qatar, Saudi Arabia and other countries have also warned of severe repercussions if Israel goes into Rafah.......
Biden says Israel shouldn't press into Rafah without 'credible' plan to protect civilians.

How is Israel going to fair if all the Arab countries combine at once for an ultimate slap down?
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Message 2132465 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 23:02:55 UTC

A 24min interview with Stephen Walt who describes it pretty well.

Why does the US refuse to call for a ceasefire in Gaza?

US political scientist Stephen Walt says Israel has changed over the years, but Biden’s policy is stuck in the past.

The United States’ support for Israel’s war on Gaza makes the country look ineffectual and hypocritical to the rest of the world, according to Harvard University professor Stephen Walt, co-author of The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy.

Walt tells host Steve Clemons that Israel and the US-Israel relationship have changed over the decades, but US President Joe Biden is holding on to a view of Israel formed in the West in the 1970s.

By rejecting a ceasefire, the US looks like it “encourages conflict” instead of being a peacemaker, Walt argues, especially since Israel has no political strategy for resolving the Palestinian question.
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Message 2132471 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 1:53:06 UTC

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Message 2132472 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 1:58:27 UTC

Note how Egypt refuses to accept entry of a single Palestinian...


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Message 2132488 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 11:14:54 UTC
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Attack on Rafah was to rescue hostages.

Pictured: Freed hostages reunited with their family at Sheba Medical Centre
From L-R: Gabriela Leimberg kisses her brother Fernando Marman, Clara Marman next to her partner Louis Har, at the Sheba Medical Centre

The two Israeli hostages freed overnight were held captive in a family home in Rafah, according to reports.

The rescued hostages, Fernando Simon Marman, 60, and Louis Har, 70, told Sheba Medical centre that they were held in a Gaza home, according to the Ynet news site.

The pair were kidnapped from a home in southern Israel along with three other relatives who were freed in the late-November deal. No other family members of theirs remain in Gaza, Israeli media reported.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/12/israel-hamas-war-latest-news-two-israeli-hostages-rescued/
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Message 2132489 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 11:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 2132472.  

Note how Egypt refuses to accept entry of a single Palestinian...


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Can you name a country willing to accept Palestinian refugees?
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Message 2132498 - Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 16:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 2132489.  

Note how Egypt refuses to accept entry of a single Palestinian...


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Can you name a country willing to accept Palestinian refugees?

Palestine. Indicating, or course, that the entire issue is created by Benji.
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Message 2132511 - Posted: 13 Feb 2024, 0:52:01 UTC - in response to Message 2132429.  
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And the Arab countries have just about had enough of this.
The Arab countries are going to loose their thorn in the paw of the Israeli lion. Since decades they could move it a little whenever they deemed it useful to cause the lion pain, to make him roar or jump around wildly. They desperately need a roaring, unpredictable lion, not a contented, calm lion dozing in the shadows, so that their subjects never forget that this beast, this mythical demon must be shot or drowned in the sea; that coexistence is no option.

On Oct 7th, someone accidentally stuck the thorn too deep into the lion's paw that the lion, near fainting, began to make the effort to completely and permanently remove this painful thorn.
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Message 2132512 - Posted: 13 Feb 2024, 1:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 2132489.  
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Can you name a country willing to accept Palestinian refugees?
I can't name a country, that is its people. But I can name a government willing to do so. It's the current German ruling "elite". It's the same government policy which over more than a decade has shoveled billions of dollars into Gaza without bothering to effectively examine the whereabouts of that money there. Any well-founded criticism of this policy has been rejected by these well-meaning benefactors with a highly moral, indignant outcry.
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Message 2132513 - Posted: 13 Feb 2024, 2:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 2132463.  

....The two leaders spoke after two Egyptian officials and a Western diplomat said Egypt threatened to suspend its peace treaty with Israel if Israeli troops are sent into Rafah, where Egypt fears fighting could push Palestinians into the Sinai Peninsula and force the closure of besieged Gaza's main aid supply route.....
The 1978 Camp David Accords? I don't think Egypt is ready to endanger its tourist sector at Sinai's Red Sea coast, now that their most important Suez Canal business will be severely impacted by the Houthis for the foreseeable future.

How is Israel going to fair if all the Arab countries combine at once for an ultimate slap down?
Then the lion probably has to get rid of the remaining thorns stuck in his back. So, a déjà-vu of 1948, 1967, 1973? Arab autocrats aren't so stupid and arrogant as their predecessors (....you never know with the mullahs). And there's no longer a USSR backing their aggressions. Only a majority of their fanatical subjects, brainwashed by Islamism, are still resistant to... how to name it... enlightment? For this audience, old tanks and anti-air missiles are rolled out to the Sinai. Only for them their king beats loudly on (re)percussion drums. 'Keep calm and carry on' is the mantra of another trio of lions.
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Message 2132551 - Posted: 14 Feb 2024, 2:40:32 UTC

They've been doing it themselves to others for decades now, but once it gets done to them they scream blue murder and want the rules changed to protect them.

Australia to ban doxxing after pro-Palestinian activists publish data on hundreds of Jews far right Israeli groups.

And even the latest boss of our national broadcaster gets grilled for his bending over backwards to accommodate these same people.

ABC receives over 3,000 complaints about Israel-Gaza war coverage, David Anderson accused of ‘hiding away’.

Which is hard to hide considering the coverage coming out of its sister network and I also expect that it's this same group that's behind financing those illegal West Bank settlements who belong in jail.
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Message 2132733 - Posted: 18 Feb 2024, 20:46:38 UTC

Another leader sees the light and calls it for what it really is.

Brazil's Lula accuses Israel of 'genocide' in Gaza.

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva accused Israel Sunday of committing "genocide" against Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip and compared its actions to Adolf Hitler's campaign to exterminate Jews.

In response, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the 78-year-old's comments "shameful and grave" and said his government had called in Brazil's ambassador in protest.

But his comments drew praise from the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which described the remarks as "an accurate description" of what people were facing in the Gaza Strip that it controls.

Lula told reporters in Addis Ababa, where he was attending an African Union summit, that what was happening in the Gaza Strip "isn't a war, it's a genocide".

"It's not a war of soldiers against soldiers. It's a war between a highly prepared army and women and children," added the veteran leftist......
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Message 2132761 - Posted: 19 Feb 2024, 8:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 2132733.  

Another leader sees the light and calls it for what it really is.

Brazil's Lula accuses Israel of 'genocide' in Gaza.
He has certainly already condemned Putin's mass murder in Ukraine as 'genocide' too. Oh, didn't he?
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Message 2132923 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 15:30:22 UTC
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When will the World stop pandering to this?...






Ma’aleh Adumim, West Bank
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A member of a search and rescue team inspects a car after Palestinian gunmen fired on people at a traffic jam, leaving one dead and eight wounded

Photograph: Amir Levy/Getty



There are multiple sides to a conflict.

How do we persuade such people to move from their ugly madness to instead choose cooperation and a prosperous peace?

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Message 2132944 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 20:15:40 UTC

All while the count of slaughtered Palestinians fast approaches 30,000.

Israel strikes Gaza's Rafah as truce talks under way.
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