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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... This blatant slaughter and unhoming of innocents must be stopped... Should it not be that the blatant use of "Human Expendables" by Hamas must be stopped?... There is always more than one side to a war. And the Hamas rampage against Israel is still blood curdling chilling despicable and grotesque. There was nasty harm and suffering and cruel torture inflicted for the sake of creating the maximum of atrocity and hate. Instead: Be excellent to one another! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36838 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Martin the only way to get rid of organisations like Hamas and others like them is to get rid of the far right Zionists that breed them and underhandedly support them so that there's always a reason to retaliate. How would you like it if you lived your whole life with no legal protections at all, where even your own property can be taken away or destroyed at a whim by others that just think that you're nothing but an animal and you can even be arrested and thrown into jail for decades without a trail or lawyer based on those same whims without any actual evidence to support those whims? And have you ever seen those far right religious Zionist parades where as they parade along they split on Christians, Muslims and anyone else who isn't a Zionist along their way to their destination as well as on their properties and especially on their places of worship? I'm sorry Martin, but any Palestinian is a "Human Expendable" to Benji and his far right Zionist mob and always will be until there are no Palestinians (aka: "Human Expendables") left in Gaza and the West Bank. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
That is far from the full story. As was witnessed in 2007... Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah, need a forever conflict so as to keep their gangsters in gangster riches and power. Hence how all the peace initiatives of the previous decades have all been blown up by them. How do we chop off the malevolent heads in Iran and Russia who are pushing the puppets in Hamas and elsewhere?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The truth came out. No shirt to show no weapons or suicide belt, hands up in surrender, speaking Hebrew, waving a white flag too. I'm terrified by them at 30 meters in a fortified position, I must kill, that is the order. Benji's orders are exactly what his propaganda says, eliminate ALL in Gaza (they are all Hamas after all). The BS talking out of both sides of the mouth about rules, is just that; lip service. Benji, every member of the Knesset and every commanding officer in the IDF needs a quick trip to Nuremberg; a day in the dock and then a rope around the neck. Has Benji given Hamas that much power over Israel? Has he made all of Israel that frightened? If he wasn't killing innocents a trip to the insane asylum might be in order. (I seem to remember Heinlein writing about hysteria inducing machines - it wasn't X but that seems to be it now) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36838 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
To Benji and his far right Zionist mob those hostages are just "Human Expendables" to them as well and even if his mob kills them all he'll just blame Hamas anyway and as you know all Palestinians are Hamas and are also "Human Expendables". It's about time that Benji and his mob became "Human Expendables" instead as they're nothing but greedy trouble makers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36838 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Things are only going to get worse while Benji and his far right clowns stay there course. ‘That’s true’: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ‘proud’ that he stymied two-state solution. As yet another country condemns Benji's government as the wholesale slaughter continues. Israel-Gaza: WHO calls Al-Shifa hospital a 'bloodbath' as France condemns Israel for Rafah strike. While the fallout of Benji's policies affect shipping. UK and US shoot down more Houthi drones in the Red Sea as shipping companies pause operations. And we're getting dragged into that. Australia dragged into dangerous game in Middle East. But he doesn't want to be your partner unless you take part in the slaughter. Senate Democrat says Netanyahu ‘has been a exceptionally difficult partner’. The U.S. has been well known to topple foreign governments before and Benji's is 1 that certainly needs to be toppled now before the problem gets far worse. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Meanwhile, where did all that international aid to the Palestinians really go to?... Inside the Hamas tunnel network wrote: What strikes you first about the tunnel is its size. Jutting out from the desert sand at a gradient of about 25 degrees, the rusty tubular steel opening is just big enough to drive a car through. How do you pander to that? Stay safe?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Is it tunnel network or bomb shelter? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Is it tunnel network or bomb shelter? Really??... What "bomb shelters" are many kilometers long and branch off like a spider's web?... ... And are the exact size to drive small vehicles through?... ... And note that some lead outwards towards Israel and Egypt... Regardless, that's an awful lot of expense underground for a supposedly impoverished area dependent on UN aid... How far is the Arab controlled UN behind all this?... Stay safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
London underground WWII?Is it tunnel network or bomb shelter? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
London underground WWII?Not really a fair comparison. That was a pre-existing network, designed and built for public transport, and it continued to fulfill that primary purpose throughout the war, alongside its wartime function as a shelter network. Sure, many changes were made to enhance the shelter role: old abandoned tunnels were brought back into use; newly-constructed tunnels and stations were opened as shelters before a single train had used them; and some special, secret, resources were used by the government of the day to protect their staff and communications. But the shelters were publicly advertised and available for the civilian population to use. Sometimes with disastrous consequences: read what happens during the fog of war. Bethnal Green Tube Disaster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Just how many decades has Gaza been bombed by Israel? Might not have been at the intensity of today. Do you not think that bomb shelters would be prudent? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Just how many decades has Gaza been bombed by Israel? Might not have been at the intensity of today. Do you not think that bomb shelters would be prudent?As mitigation, yes. As a permanent solution, no. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19404 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The Gaza tunnels, built with materials we provided, are bomb shelters, but only for the Hamas leadership and some of its fighters. They don't give a damn about the Palestinians, as demonstrated by digging up the water pipes, which we again paid for, to make rockets to fire into Israel. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Really? Is this the description of merely a bomb shelter?... Inside the Hamas tunnel network wrote: ... What strikes you first about the tunnel is its size. Jutting out from the desert sand at a gradient of about 25 degrees, the rusty tubular steel opening is just big enough to drive a car through. That describes something more akin to the lair of a trapdoor spider that leaps out of the ground to grab passing prey. Stay safe?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The hostages that Hamas have grabbed: Hamas hostages: Stories of the people taken from Israel wrote: ... An estimated 240 people were taken prisoner by Hamas on 7 October... Very human victims who are now pawns in the games between Hamas and the rest of the world. Stay safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36838 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
And what about all the hundreds Palestinians hostages being held in military prisons for little to no reason? It takes 2 to tango and whether you like it or not Benji is leading this dance and always has. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21235 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
For a very deadpan military summary of the status on the ground and the state of the politics, hear: Israel utilising AI warfare to ensure ‘precision strikes’ on Hamas targets | Maj. Gen. Chip Chapman An all too real very hard deadpan summary. How do we untangle that when all players are fighting for their very existence?... Stay safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1196 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Martin the only way to get rid of organisations like Hamas and others like them is to get rid of the far right Zionists that breed them and underhandedly support them so that there's always a reason to retaliate.The Jews, the Zionists have only themselves to blame. This accusation is centuries old. Why did Zionism arise in the 19th century? Because of regular pogroms in Europe AND the Middle East. Déjà-vu? How would you like it if you lived your whole life with no legal protections at all, where even your own property can be taken away or destroyed at a whim by others that just think that you're nothing but an animal and you can even be arrested and thrown into jail for decades without a trail or lawyer based on those same whims without any actual evidence to support those whims?That also summarizes Hamas rule over Palestinians in Gaza quite well. I'm sorry Martin, but any Palestinian is a "Human Expendable" to Benji and his far right Zionist mob and always will be until there are no Palestinians (aka: "Human Expendables") left in Gaza and the West Bank.They are expendables to the Hamas leaders. One of them explained Hamas "policy" in a TV interview. Just listen to these terrorists. They publicly anounced their plans. No Palestinians in Gaza---a dystopy. I can assure you, as long as Western aid money is paid in the billions, they will multiply splendidly, as they have in recent decades, as have the Orthodox Jews in the West Bank. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1196 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
[...] Benji, every member of the Knesset and every commanding officer in the IDF needs a quick trip to Nuremberg; a day in the dock and then a rope around the neck.... every member of Knesset... a quick death sentence... Sorry. I'm out of words. There's a war going on. I didn't know Israel started it. In each war many innocents die. Afghan women an children were accidently killed by Americans, by British soldiers, by a German commander too. No different in Iraq. Because terrorists also disguised themselves with burqas or attacked from within groups of civilians. Was the death of civilians in Afghanistan, or in Iraq preventable? Sure, but at what risk? Fatal decisions are made in every battle. It's better not to start a war in the first place. Who is to be condemned? The frontline soldier who daily risks his life? Their commanders? Here it's Hamas and their disregard for international martial law. Israel learns from fatal mistakes, it always did. I can't see such learning process among Palestinians. |
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