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bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Agree, because I thought that Scrooge McDuck was a moderator in disguise, so therefore not wanting to quarrel. From now on I will hack on other users if not listed as moderators because of the Politics board for its meaning. First of all, we should know about unevenness where also something should not match. Here not thinking about such between possible enemies, but that Neil Armstrong once made a leap down on the Moon for not any backwards. Here disagreement in nature, for not any wars among humans, but sometimes irregularities for also uncertainties, and also differences, and for that also jumping back and forth. Meant here that when some things could be even for also regular, other things could be more uneven or irregular for also unpredictable. Nature is having its march and sometimes it could become out of sync for only irregular, but also in between for just happening. So when not knowing for just only happening and it could be unpredictable, but also the opposite when still predictable. The one thing I see here is that it could be unpredictable for outcome, but only because of not balancing. So just the thing in between for only balancing and it becomes counter-balancing when you try it the opposite way. Is that such a thing tit-tat or could it end up even instead for not any result achievable at all? We could make it implicit versus Chaos for that of nature for only a difference, but still not any in between. Rather choose here instead, for still one or the other thing, for still not any deciding. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
This is nothing but the blatant genocide of innocents and must to be stopped now. Satellite images show parts of Gaza now a wasteland after weeks of bombardment. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
That is the legal answer, but is it the moral answer?That still leaves my last question: If any was given away without permission would the real owners be justified in reclaiming it?No. Newly founded states, revolutions, and wars moving borders erase old rights, old laws. Nothing new for Germans: four different states or regimes, Nazis, Communists, occupation within the 20th century. New rulers erase old rights at will. |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
I notice a couple of interviews just here and still think the Palestinian opinion is a parasite. I know, but only for that of self-respected land, the Israelis or Jews are still a victim of Holocaust. Therefore a right to self-defence, but nothing else. The problem with the Israelis is that it could be hypocratic for only becoming Idiosyncratic. The Palestinians are still poor, but still not any exuse of attacking the Israelis in my opinion. So when you make such a thing for that of the United Nations, also an exuse for a war. Self-defence is still one thing, but that it also should concern other nations. I rather took wrong of nature for making it wrong, so next only an excuse here instead. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The Palestinians are still poor, but still not any exuse of attacking the Israelis in my opinion.The Palestinians didn't attack Israelis, Hamas did, but the Israeli government lit the wick. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
<ed add>Before you answer if it is moral, consided the artworks looted by the Nazi's and that the world now sees fit to return it to the descendants of the people it was taken from. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This gives a good summary for the present here-and-now: Israel is in a fight to the finish. Whatever comes next, it must change wrote: While unprecedented [and extreme] in scale and horror [and atrocities], the Hamas terrorist attacks on 7 October that killed more than 1,400 people were tactically and geographically limited... Where do the politics go next? And how many people die yet? Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Not reading the other posts here before posting myself, so doing that afterwards. And I visited Gaza Live on YouTube a short while ago, and here a mentioning in chat or comments that was interesting. Here the other poster mentioned that of dogma and Religion together, while not doing this for this time or myself for this conflict. The problem is that when still hatred also Religion for the same while Ideologies could rather be handled or managed by politicians instead. I think this has become a war when still an internal conflict and therefore could spill above borders when still not any for defined. I think that both Egypt and Saudi-Arabia for also Jordan wants to stay out of it, for only Lebanon and Syria remaining. Poverty is still one thing when Religion another so when still a war or conflict it only becomes that of Ideologies instead. Both that of Jewish for that of Messiah and Islam are separate beliefs, but here I want this for explicitly stated unless otherwise. Maybe rather Hebrew instead, except that was only a language and needs checking. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
And tempers flare, but I could differentiate between poverty among Palestinians and what should be declared terrorism by a terrorist organization, and here Hamas. Here the Palestinians should distance themselves from Hamas and concentrate on a political solution, because it should be still about a two-party state. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
While the power of veto is held by certain countries the U.N. will mainly be the toothless tiger that it currently is. :-( And those veto powers should be abolished so that the U.N. can function as it is suppose to. ;-) But I'm just repeating myself there again. :-( I havn't seen enough of overseas news to be sure, but certainly here there is much more support for the Palestinian people than the oppressive Israeli government. Israeli government support video from here is all narrow focus stuff to make crowds look larger than they actually larger when they're really rather small while Palestinian support is done with wide angle focus to actually capture their full numbers. No matter what some may say, the Israeli government has brought this all about over decades and there's nothing that will convince me otherwise. The west must pull this terrorist far right Zionists government of crooks and religious nutters into line or there will never be any peace there. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
This is just plain straight out murder. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Confronts IDF Flack Who Admitted to Bombing Refugee Camp. As their war crimes continue to escalate. Amnesty International says Israeli forces wounded Lebanese civilians with white phosphorus. Any country supporting the Israeli government should also be held accountable for indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians as well. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... I havn't seen enough of overseas news to be sure, but certainly here there is much more support for the Palestinian people than the oppressive Israeli government... Amazing how Hamas and Iran and Russia are NOT in the news for the conflict. Whilst those three groups exist and have vowed to destroy Israel, their support of genocide will continue all the conflicts for another 100 years... And very recently, I'm very glad to be nowhere near Dagestan International Airport: Mob storms Dagestan airport in search of Jewish passengers from Israel wrote: ... “This is your captain,” one announcement said. “There’s an angry mob outside that doesn’t know where we’ve come from and why [we are here]. It’s possible we’ll also come under attack.”... How social media fuelled antisemitic violence in Dagestan, Russia wrote: On Sunday morning, details of a flight arriving later that day from Tel Aviv were posted on a popular channel on Telegram in Dagestan... Desperately deadly nasty. There was the Spanish Inquisition and now we have religiously hate fueled mob lynchings to contend with. Russia, Iran, and Hamas, really are making war in all the worse ways. Also note how both Hamas and Russia have very current and nasty deadly examples of genocide that they have recently perpetrated... How do you reason with that? Stay safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
How do we persuade the thuggish masked riotous self-righteous sympathizers to behave themselves?... McDonald's condemn Birmingham restaurant mice protests wrote: McDonald's has condemned what it called disinformation over the Israel-Gaza war after boxes of live mice were released in three of its restaurants in apparent protests... That is outright callous cruelty to animals! How many mice suffered from being smothered in paint to then suffer almost guaranteed death? Let there be peace upon the earth?... Instead of the misguided fervid religions, instead: Be excellent to one another! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
How many mice suffered from being smothered in paint to then suffer almost guaranteed death?Isn't that the point, Palestinian suffering followed by guaranteed death? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
How many mice suffered from being smothered in paint to then suffer almost guaranteed death?Isn't that the point, Palestinian suffering followed by guaranteed death? And what of the Hamas inflicted guaranteed no-mercy ruthlessly mindless deadly cruel rampage with deadly cold atrocities against fellow human beings whilst asleep in their homes?... And then further their cold deadly use of using both their own Palestinians and other hostages as a human shield? To put an end to such future barbarism, what useful approach can be taken? Or do we encourage Hamas and others in the further taking of hostages and the use of human shields as being a profitable tactic? Stay safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
While wannabe dictator and terrorist leader Benji continues to lose support at home as well as abroad and western governments are finding out that support in their homelands for the Israeli government isn't anywhere near as strong as they thought it's Benji's son that's now grabbing the headlines. Israel has called up 360,000 reservists as it goes to war with Hamas. But Benjamin Netanyahu's son is not one of them. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
To put an end to such future barbarism, what useful approach can be taken?So you become them. Someone else comes along and takes you out. The cycle doesn't end. Think outside the box |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Outside the Gaza box: Russia gives air defence missile units to Hezbollah... And that has to include Russian personnel to operate them... And then we suffer another MH17 to be added to the atrocities? Russia really is at war with the world and Israel is their present distraction victim... And many people Stay safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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