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Message 2155177 - Posted: 8 Apr 2026, 19:32:10 UTC

Those murderous land thieves just won't stop carrying out their war crimes against innocent people.

Hundreds killed in 'barbaric' wave of Israeli strikes in Lebanon.
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Message 2155192 - Posted: 9 Apr 2026, 15:32:08 UTC

It's not a war crime to attack a foreign terrorist organization that attacked your country repeatedly. The U.S. did this for 20 years in Afghanistan. Undoubtedly, many innocent civilians die.

A ceasefire agreement with Lebanon had been in effect since 2024. Hezbollah broke it on March 2nd 2026 when firing rockets at Haifa. They claimed their attack was unrelated to the war in Iran.; they wanted to force IDF to retreat from territories in Lebanon.

Lebanon first attacked Israel in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Like Syria they never negotiated a peace treaty thereafter... just a number of ceasefire agreements since almost 80 years. Unlike so-called Palestine, Lebanon masquerades as a sovereign country and a respected UN member.

If this country starts a war and then looses territory to Israel; you can't scorn Israel as "land thieves". It would be a legitimate annexation of territory that Lebanon was forced to cede in war; a peace treaty then seals the changed borders under international law.

For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind...

Nobody forced Hezbollah to reignite the war. But was this decision made in Beirut or rather in Tehran?

The leader of Iran, Khamenei, was killed on Feb 28 in Tehran. Two days before... but unrelated...

So, they need another ceasefire. Negotiated by whom? Lebanon's government or Hezbollah? Another piece of paper signed either by a powerless mook or a vengeful Islamist terrorist... a waste of paper.

No one will restrict Netanyahu a.t.m., neither the U.S. nor Arab powers who are now in war with the Mullah regime.

Power changes character. Increasingly, it leads to a lack of caution and rational assessment of costs and benefits. Netanyahu has been PM far too long.
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Message 2155193 - Posted: 9 Apr 2026, 15:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 2155177.  
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The Iranian IRGC and Hezbollah and Houthis have long declared a Fanatical "Forever War" until they complete their Genocide to eradicate Israel from their self-proclaimed Iranian world.

And the (Shi'i) IRGC "Forever War" then continues against the majority Sunni Arab world after that...?

The IRGC deliberately use all/any civilians as pawns and weapons in their "Forever War" war.


How are you supposed to fight against that?

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Message 2155218 - Posted: 10 Apr 2026, 13:17:15 UTC - in response to Message 2155193.  

How are you supposed to fight against that?
Who is 'you' in this regard?

We preferred to trade with them. Machinery, precision mechanics, CNC lathe, surface coating technology... We exported lots of that stuff which they need for their thriving car industry, we believe.
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Message 2155219 - Posted: 10 Apr 2026, 13:32:07 UTC - in response to Message 2155193.  

How are you supposed to fight against that?
Don't start what you can't win?
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Message 2155422 - Posted: 21 Apr 2026, 7:21:00 UTC

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Message 2155428 - Posted: 21 Apr 2026, 9:37:05 UTC

The fact however is that Israel is frequently attacked (by Hezbollah) from Lebanon. They launch rockets into civilian neighborhoods or attack military installations in northern Israel. They planted rocket platforms into civilian neighborhoods of villages all over southern Lebanon, even as close as a few hundred meters from UNIFIL troops' observation posts.

This is ridiculous. A pure clown show in the circus the UN is. Several UN Secretaries-General who tolerated these warmongers there for decades already have completely destroyed the UN's reputation as a peacekeeping power. The UNPROFOR's appeasement in 1993 of the Serbian Army invading the protected UN zone of Srebrenica (Bosnia) that led to mass murder was understandable due to the UN's sluggish, civilian decision-making. The UN's decades-long appeasement and ignorance to Hezbollah aggression in Lebanon was deliberate.

The state of Lebanon formally still is in a state of war with Israel since 1948. Two times already Israel occupied large parts of Lebanon and ceded the territory later in ceasefire agreements. They retreated completely from Lebanon two times. The Lebanese government since decades refuses to agree on a peace treaty, like Syria. They refuse to even talk with Israel. Why? Because they aren't sovereign to decide on peace. The Mullahs decide for their Lebanese dominion. And before Syria's dictator Assad did so.

Under international law the government of Lebanon is responsible for its foreign policies; also for those by Hezbollah on their territory.

What is a solution for Lebanon to achieve a lasting peace and regain all of its territories?

Accusing the Zionists of land theft won't help them. Now it's merely "Might makes right". They don't like it? Hard luck!

Btw.: it looks like Israel, together with the Druze population of Southern Syria also started to form a separate Druze state outside the jurisdiction of Syria, protected by IDF.

Is that land theft? It's not even a breach of international law to meddle in the affairs of a foreign country if there's a formal state of war between them, isn't it?

It's the stupid islamist ideology (...from the river to the sea...) that hinders Lebanon and Syria from agreeing on peace with Israel. Egypt, Jordan and other sane Arab regimes achieved it decades ago.
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Message 2155441 - Posted: 21 Apr 2026, 19:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 2155428.  

The fact however is that Israel is frequently attacked (by Hezbollah) from Lebanon.
Would they be punished if they didn't steal land?
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Message 2155446 - Posted: 21 Apr 2026, 20:26:59 UTC
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India occupies (stole?) territories in Cashmere, claimed by Pakistan. That's why Nepal is entitled to punish India?

A strange concept.

I choose Nepal intentionally in this comparision bc. India could crush Nepal in days, just like Israel could with Lebanon. Weak, inferior powers that attack powerful neighbours is madness, resp. it's the 21st century 'art of warfare'... that creates victims to ignite the global outrage in mass media, social media.. etc.
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Message 2155450 - Posted: 21 Apr 2026, 22:28:13 UTC - in response to Message 2155422.  
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Israel's occupation of south Lebanon spells 'bleak' future despite ceasefire, experts say.

"The central challenge for Lebanese authorities is defending a sovereignty they cannot enforce on the ground,"
They cannot? Then they aren't sovereign...

[...] former Khiam mayor Adnan Alyan remains hopeful that the "south will be rebuilt".

"God willing, everyone will return. They will retreat again and the entire south will be rebuilt,"

"It's all worth the sacrifice for the resistance and Lebanon, but the most important thing is our dignity to stay intact."
'Worth'? Outright deluded.... Such officials do not act for the interests of their people.

Insanity is repeating the same mistake and expecting different results. Israel won't repeat it a third time.
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Message 2155470 - Posted: 22 Apr 2026, 20:56:48 UTC

The cost of genocide inflicted by Adolf Benji and his Nazi butchers.

Gaza needs $US71 billion in next decade for recovery, UN and EU report finds.

More than $US71 billion ($99.4 billion) will be needed over the next 10 years for recovery and reconstruction in Gaza, according to a new report by the European Union and the United Nations.

The final Gaza Rapid Damage and Needs Assessment found housing, health, education, commerce and agriculture were the hardest-hit sectors........
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Message 2155481 - Posted: 23 Apr 2026, 8:39:25 UTC
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What "we" should rebuild there first is the potable water supply.

This time, it absolutely must be done exclusively with PVC pipes, instead of high-quality steel pipes. In this region, that's a more sustainable material choice.

I fear without a change of mind among Gazans the willingness of intl. donors to rebuild Gaza will be retarded. I don't see the Gulf states have much interest to invest in their Arab brothers either.

Rebuilding a Hamas led Gaza is a lost investment from day 1 on. It's not rational to do that.

But there are two million people (quickly growing, btw.: obviously no genocide). The majority without homes. How do you just approach this giant problem?

What is the European plan to rebuild Gaza? The Arab plan? Uh... I think there are no plans.
Trump suggested to build Gaza Beach Resort City (not a place for most of the current Gazans).

Are there any realistic and practicable ideas how to rebuild Gaza?

And what about Southern Sudan, Somalia, Haiti? Nobody interested? The same could easily happen to Gaza as soon as there's a lasting peace (e.g. Mullah's removed; More Gulf states join the Abraham accords)...

If the international attention is ever lost for a regional war or conflict, then its victims are doomed.
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Message 2155638 - Posted: 29 Apr 2026, 20:47:18 UTC

Those Israeli Nazis just don't know when to stop committing war crimes or what a ceasefire means.

Lebanon ceasefire not working because free rein given to Israel, says deputy prime minister Tarek Mitri.
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Message 2155640 - Posted: 29 Apr 2026, 21:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 2155638.  
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Lebanon ceasefire not working because free rein given to Israel, says deputy prime minister Tarek Mitri.
The militant group [Hezbollah], considered a terrorist organisation under Australian law, has been highly critical of talks between the Lebanese and Israeli governments in recent weeks - negotiations it is not a party to.
Hezbollah never agreed to any ceasefire agreement, so they are neither bound to the 2024 ceasefire agreement, nor to Trump's recently announced one, right?

"Hezbollah are upset with the direct negotiations [with Israel] altogether"
"The idea of peace treaty as the end game is controversial in Lebanon,"
Controversial. Hezbollah rejects peace with Israel altogether, like all other lunatic islamist terrorists.

Appeasement of terrorists never achieved peace.

How to circumvent this minor obstacle? I think we will see a solution one day that dries up financing of Hezbollah. When? IDK.
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