It just goes to show that you can't trust the Israeli government to do anything right.

It doesn't matter who I / we can trust. The Israelis don't trust Hamas and Hamas figures don't trust Israel. Nothing can change that for a long time to come. And that's why there are always two parties who are responsible for delays, deviations from agreements. It is misleading to always just blame Israel for being responsible for A, B or C in regard to agreements, while ignoring the destructive negotiating tactics of the Hamas side.

Gaza ceasefire deal could mean Netanyahu is at war with his own government.

Indeed! The Orthodox, who are pushing for maximum resistance without any concessions, can leave the government any day.

British-Israeli hostage says Hamas held her at UN facilities

her captors only provided her with an out-of-date bottle of iodine to treat gunshot wounds in her leg and her left hand, on which she lost two fingers.

These 2 moronic thieves are really going to stir up a hornets nest now.

Key takeaways from Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu's press conference in Washington DC.

2 wannabe Hitlers against the Palestinians.

These 2 moronic thieves are really going to stir up a hornets nest now.

All[&] the hornets of the Middle East already flew out of their nests in a blind rage to drive the lone Israeli lion mad. As a result, most hornet nests have been trampled by the furious lion; in the scattered remains the few hornets are busy with their own survival. The lion now has a few years to think about how to prevent such hornets' nests from being resettled in his neighborhood.

[&] (except for the Persian hornets, which had goaded all the others, now hide deep down in their nest, trembling with fear. Hastily they are trying to breed ultimate 'doomsday drones' to scare the lion from crushing them).

2 wannabe Hitlers against the Palestinians.

You are right; one has to criticise ill-conceived plans which (now) just seem absurd.

But the most difficult thing, however, is to develop a feasible plan for the Gaza strip. To do so, one should discuss different strategies:

• Fast reconstruction: Some dozen billions of dollars would enable rapid reconstruction; that is: external money, external construction companies; external advice; external expertise; external armies of aid organizations. Permanent external support for 2+ million people. Thus, repeat the mistakes of the past... a fast but non-sustainable solution.
  
• Slow reconstruction: Gazans plan and build themselves; that is residential buildings and a viable domestic economy. Western or international aid only supports basic needs and selected, targeted projects that promote self-sufficiency (agriculture, trade, manufacturing, ...). Gazans must learn to appreciate the standard of living they have achieved themselves (instead of through vast and permanent international transfers). [#] That is, keep the peace above all else; a slow but hopefully lasting solution.
  
• Trump's proposal: Resettlement of all Gazans (who are all[*] Sunni Arabs and descendants of Jordanians or Egyptians) to Jordan or Egypt (or e.g. some place at the coastline of some Arab country). A fast (, potentially lasting) solution which may offers Gazans more space for future developments. But, but, but... Or is it just a trumpesque provocation?
  

[#] In Germany we still recognize with honorable gratitude the "Trümmerfrauen"; women who cleared up the rubble in post-war Germany with many men dead, missing or in Siberian POW gulags.
[*] a small minority of Arab Christians...

Each of these three basic options has its advantages and disadvantages. Which one is more realistic; more targeted? I intentionally (for now) left out a 'Peace Treaty' or 'Two State' solution which would require mutual trust first. Nobody knows when they can think about that again.

From an Israeli point of view there's this observation: Never in the history of the Palestinian liberation movement there was the clear and outspoken will of a Palestinian people to establish their own, sovereign state. Palestinians lack any elite or leaders who propagate a Palestinian state in peaceful coexistence with Israel; instead: 'From the river to the sea...' threats. If there's no will [+] to establish an own state they could either become part of Egypt or Jordan; or Israel is forced to exert suzerainty over Gaza and West Bank (control its external borders, harbors, airspace, military defense, domestic police, ...). Despise it as 'occupation' if you prefer; but there's no other viable option for Gaza and West Bank than either become part of Egypt/Jordan or an own sovereign country (which includes the duties of a sovereign nation: e.g. peacekeeping and self-subsistence).

[+] Arafat was unwilling in Camp David, July 2000. Mahmoud Abbas' so-called 'Palestinian Authorithy' is unwilling today

To speed things up (this old man has no time to waste), Trump suggests a third option: an U.S. overseas territory replaces the Gaza strip, freed from all Arabs. Profitable building plots under the warm, Mediterranean sun for Americans. This man is an experienced real estate developer, isn't it? Eventually, this should 'convince' all parties in the Middle East to rethink their strategic objectives... force them to cooperate... to achieve a lasting peace, even if only to prevent the formation of a sovereign U.S. territory right at their frontyard. Yes, that's blackmailing, irresponsible, disgusting... you name it...

Instead of displacing Palestinians from their land (ethnic cleansing), how about moving all Israelis to Florida instead?

That would solve more problems that the Delusional Donny and Adolf Benji's plan will.

Think of all that added weight on top of sinkholes ....

Instead of displacing Palestinians from their land (ethnic cleansing), how about moving all Israelis to Florida instead?

Just their land? There is substancial written evidence that tells different:

https://maps.free-bible.com/geography/israel-in-the-new-testament-map

The war 'they' started on Oct 7th has not promoted their cause of establishing an own state; in fact, may even made it impossible.

There is substancial written evidence that tells different:
https://maps.free-bible.com/geography/israel-in-the-new-testament-map

Also substantial written evidence that Earth is square and stationary.

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The war 'they' started on Oct 7th has not promoted their cause of establishing an own state; in fact, may even made it impossible.

I see that you still can't accept the fact that Adolf Benji and his far right mob of fascists lit the fuse for Oct 7 I see.

And now that Gaza has been leveled Adolf Benji and his Nazi mob are now focusing their death, destruction and land theft on the West Bank.

Western ignorance/stupidity and Israel's outright greed is now stirring up the Arab world up, so do you think that that is a good outcome as well?

I see that you still can't accept the fact that Adolf Benji and his far right mob of fascists lit the fuse for Oct 7 I see.

Personally, and only with some circumstantial evidence, I think our buddy Vlad had a strong hand in it, possibly was behind it. Hamas leaders met with him around the time of the first attack on Israel, it was perfectly timed to throw chaos into the US presidential election and swing it for Donald Trump because Biden/Harris would be forced to deal with this mess, and he is ideologically/politically closer to Trump and Netanyahu.

The initial attack was a few hundred militants attacking/kidnapping civilians. How could this possibly be designed to do anything but start a war of retribution?

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But PooTin wasn't in this picture back when this thread was started, though PooTin's land grab in Ukraine probably spurred Adolf Benji and his mob on, but what is well known is that Adolf Benji will do anything to prevent a 2 state solution from ever happening.

And now we have crooked Donny stupidly wading on it with his own box of matches.

The war 'they' started on Oct 7th

This war was started over a millennia ago, Oct 7 was just another battle. As to who started it, that person has been lost to history.

It is simply a fact of stupendous stupidity that they both pray to the same god, but they so violently disagree on how to properly pray to this god. Each claims their way is correct and the only way and have become so invested in it that they will kill and commit other atrocities to prevent anyone from praying differently. It is this mental illness that must be removed from earth.

Because if it isn't over how to pray then it has to be over the theft of land, and theft of anything must be punished.

Also substantial written evidence that Earth is square and stationary.

A flat earth map said to be the 'Bible map of the world', centred on America, the "New World". That's ridiculous... Its creator probably had the habit of taking too hot a bath regularly... up there in Hot Springs, Dakota territories.

There's a difference between preserved descriptions of history, of societies, of ancient knowledge (based on witness reports or e.g. proof of validity by ancient Mathematicians) AND ancient perceptions about the earth, space, the future (without facts, evidence, or proof). You have to differentiate between both.

Denying the origins and heritage of the Jewish People in the Middle East is ahistorical; It is a lie, no... it's the base of the deadly ideology of "From the river to the sea...". This bigoted perspective is what ignited the war on Oct 7th.

The 'flat earthers' already admitted defeat. They finally accepted facts and evidence. It's about time for Arabs and (keffiyeh-wearing) Western progressives to follow their example.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/sometimes-you-are-wrong-flat-earthers-admit-defeat-after-seeing-24hour-antarctica-sun/news-story/0bc1d6b85396c04e163ba1a1b5b7bb21

Btw.: I, who grew up in the second generation in a socialist society where religiosity, religious customs and traditions had been completely abandoned since decades, or rather had been suppressed as backward and outdated; now defend the value of the historic narratives in the Bible against a very new-fangled trend (with the exception of the aloof, elitist Freemasons) in the formerly God-fearing Anglo-American hemisphere of reassessing their Christian religious heritage as false and void. What a turn of history... [all off-topic]

[...] though PooTin's land grab in Ukraine probably spurred Adolf Benji and his mob on, but what is well known is that Adolf Benji will do anything to prevent a 2 state solution from ever happening.

It's the Arabs, in the West Bank and Gaza, who supported Hamas as well as these terrorists' ideological and financial backers abroad in Qatar, Egypt, Lebanon or elsewhere (Mullahs!!!) who probably prevented a two state solution forever by destroying the trust that the majority of leftist, liberal Israelis, longing for peace, had in most Palestinians. Future elections will remove Likud from power but this loss of confidence will remain... at least as long as the affected surviving hostages live on to bear witness.

The attack was planned and prepared in detail by the Mullahs for a long time. Putin may have been vaguely informed in advance. Already the Soviets had been supplying the Arabs with huge quantities of arms, tanks, fighter jets, ... since the 1950s, just after Israel began to demand the emigration of Soviet Jews to Palestine.

I don't believe Putin was able to time the Oct 7th attack. This said, it surely (or hopefully?) was just a strange coincidence that Oct 7th is Putin's birthday.

A flat earth map said to be the 'Bible map of the world', centred on America, the "New World". That's ridiculous...

Yes, it is, isn't it? I wonder how the Mormons would react to your opinon, though. My point was that one should not use religious sources as "evidence".

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The initial attack was a few hundred militants attacking/kidnapping civilians. How could this possibly be designed to do anything but start a war of retribution?

Normally, there should have been strong forces of the IDF. I believe Hamas could not have known in advance that this attack would kill more than 1,000 Israelis and lead to hundreds of hostages, thus starting 'a war' instead of a limited military retribution.

On the other hand, never before had Hamas launched such a broad attack like a military invasion, with dozens of coordinated attack squads (land, air, sea) on several targets. Previous attacks were massive (e.g. rocket terror) or focused on one or a few points (a bus, a market, a military patrol). Who was the mastermind, the brain? Hamas? No. Mullahs or Putin? I think the Mullahs. It would be interesting to know their assessment of what the strategic goals of this attack should be (besides public protests in the West).

It would be interesting to know their assessment of what the strategic goals of this attack should be

It seems that many want to ascribe some grand plan to each action. That could be the case only if the Mullahs were a legitimate government. If they are terrorists, then there will be nothing more complex than causing deaths to avenge the perceived wrongs perpetrated on their group.

Well the death, destruction and land theft continues at an accelerated pace now as Adolf Benji and his Nazi mob are emboldened by delusional Donny and his PooTin ass licking crew.

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu presses for Gaza ceasefire extension.

Hamas accuses Israel of sending Gaza peace process back to 'square one'.

Hamas is accusing Israel of sending the Gaza ceasefire process back to "square one", rejecting calls to extend the current temporary truce and demanding negotiations on a lasting peace begin immediately.

There has been a furious response across the Arab world to the announcement by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to block all aid deliveries entering Gaza, which is being labelled as a clear breach of international law.

Mr Netanyahu said it was in response to Hamas's rejection of what Israel is describing as a US proposal to continue phase one of the ceasefire through to mid-April, in a bid to secure the release of more Israeli hostages.....

So the U.S. is certainly complacent now in genocide and land theft.

Adolf Benji is lower than a worm, not only has he stopped all aid he's found a way to sink even lower.

Israel halts Gaza electricity supply ahead of new truce talks.

Israel ordered an immediate halt to Gaza’s electricity supply Sunday to pressure Hamas into releasing hostages, even as it prepared for fresh talks on the future of its truce with the Palestinian militants.

Israel’s decision comes a week after it blocked all aid supplies to the war-battered territory, a move reminiscent of the initial days of the war when Israel announced a “siege” on Gaza.

Hamas described the electricity cut as “blackmail,” a term it had also used after Israel blocked the aid.

The truce’s initial phase ended on March 1, and both sides have refrained from returning to all-out war despite sporadic violence, including an air strike Sunday that Israel said targeted militants.......

He's as bad as PooTin.

I didn't know Israel is obliged under international law to supply electricity to a self-proclaimed state whose government is at war with Israel.

I think it was a grave mistake made decades ago to supply Gaza with electricity (result of appeasement). Why? If they would have been responsible themselves to build sufficient power plants, water works, maintain them, pay for them, obtain fuel (or seek international funding); they would have appreciated what they had in Gaza, instead of the constant warmongering.

Whatever Israel does now to end the threat that Hamas represents will be wrong. Difficult to correct past mistakes.