And while the world declares more groups as terrorist organisations why isn't the Zionist movement also included?

Likely as their own religions fall from it, it would declare themselves terrorists, which they are.

Albo has made a big mistake and it isn't going down well.

Albanese's invitation to Herzog is a shift in his approach to Israel.

Adolf Benji and his band of Nazis continue their murders and land thefts.

Palestinians say new Israeli measures in West Bank amount to de facto annexation.

Lebanon says Israel sprayed southern villages with concentrated herbicide.

Meanwhile unwanted Israeli President triggers huge protests here down under and police accused of using undue force.

Police pepper spray protesters as Israeli president visits Sydney.

Lebanon says Israel sprayed southern villages with concentrated herbicide.

from the article:

US Environmental Protection Agency and European Food Safety Authority, have concluded it is unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans.

Glyphosate is perfectly safe... which why we use it everywhere in our agriculture sector, isn't it? Uuh.. I assume it's the wrong thread here for such observations...

back to topic:

In April 2025, the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization reported that the 2024 conflict had caused more than $700m (£515m; 600m euros ) in damage and losses to Lebanon's agricultural sector, particularly in the south and the Bekaa Valley.

This UN organization (FAO) is spot on naming the consequences of this recent war.

The other UN organization, named UNIFIL, which was responsible to uphold and guard the peace in Southern Lebanon was not. I still miss the report of this UN organization, why they were absolutely incapable to detect, to observe and to report about the deployment of thousands of ballistic missiles (infringing UNSC resolution 1701). ...right at their feet, often just a few hundred meters from UNIFIL observation posts.

An unbelievable failure, or rather, the wilful decision of UNIFIL to tolerate a terrorist organization in order to continue their 'important mission' undisturbed, instead of openly denouncing the Hezbollah terrorists on the world stage, which was their original mandate.

UNIFIL has taken the wrong side and allowed another war to erupt. The population bears the consequences. That's how it always is... in every war.

Lebanon says Israel sprayed southern villages with concentrated herbicide.

from the article:

US Environmental Protection Agency and European Food Safety Authority, have concluded it is unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans.

Glyphosate is perfectly safe... which why we use it everywhere in our agriculture sector, isn't it? Uuh.. I assume it's the wrong thread here for such observations...

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/glyphosate wrote:

Glyphosate is on the Proposition 65 list because it has been identified as a carcinogen.

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/glyphosate wrote:

Glyphosate is on the Proposition 65 list because it has been identified as a carcinogen.

Please see my reply in the 'Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: Continued DENIAL (#6)' thread. (maybe not the best fitting thread... anyway.)

The use of chemical weapons on civilians does belong here. For comparison the US use of rainbow herbicides in Vietman of the British use a few years earlier in Malaya. There is a convention prohibiting their use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention but I note that Israel has not ratified it! This is sufficient for any sane mind to understand what is going on.

The use of chemical weapons on civilians does belong here. For comparison the US use of rainbow herbicides in Vietman of the British use a few years earlier in Malaya. There is a convention prohibiting their use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention but I note that Israel has not ratified it! This is sufficient for any sane mind to understand what is going on.

This is a gross exaggeration and therefore incorrect.

Neither Glyphosate nor Agent Orange constitute chemical weapons. These are clearly defined in the three OPCW lists ('schedules'). Glyphosate as well as Agent Orange are herbicides. Their use is not prohibited (at least not by the Chemical Weapons Convention). It's not advised either... and inexplicable for us today how the U.S. and British military back then decided to apply them without considering longterm effects on the ecosystem (and humans).

Ricin or chlorine, or e.g., the Russian 'Novichok' are regulated chemical weapons. Glyphosate is not.

I think it's wrong to spray glyphosate on populated areas. Its proper use demands to protect the skin as well as to prevent inhalation of droplets.
I also think it's the wrong decision still not to belong to the 193 signatory states of the OPCW treaty.

Neither Glyphosate nor Agent Orange constitute chemical weapons.

Try telling that to Vietnam Vets and farmers that are suffering (or have died from) the cancerous effects of those substances.

Neither Glyphosate nor Agent Orange constitute chemical weapons.

Try telling that to Vietnam Vets and farmers that are suffering (or have died from) the cancerous effects of those substances.

It is a chemical. It was (and is) used as a weapon (offensive and defensive). Ergo it is a chemical weapon. It may not be a listed as a prohibited one by a specific treaty, but that does not alter its nature.

It is a chemical. It was (and is) used as a weapon (offensive and defensive). Ergo it is a chemical weapon. It may not be a listed as a prohibited one by a specific treaty, but that does not alter its nature.

Agreed. I assume it depends on their 'mode of action' and their purpose: killing people en masse with maximum lethality differs from eradicating specific plant types.

A strange species we are... Herbicides are no longer used here to keep railway lines clear. Environmental concerns.... Glyphosate on farmland? No restrictions.

I assume it depends on their 'mode of action' and their purpose: killing people en masse with maximum lethality differs from eradicating specific plant types.

Tse on farm crops to starve the enemy.

Just another reason why Adolf Benji and his Nazi government needs to go.

Israel passes death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks.

Israel's Parliament has passed a law approving the death penalty for Palestinians convicted of murdering Israelis.

The bill's passage on Monday marked the culmination of a years-long push by Israel's far right to escalate punishment for Palestinians convicted of nationalistic offences against Israelis.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was in the chamber to vote yes.

The law makes death by hanging the default punishment for West Bank Palestinians convicted of nationalistic killings.

The law also gives Israeli courts the authority to impose either the death penalty or life imprisonment on its citizens. It is not retroactive, applying only to future cases......

So that's more protection for land thieving settlers terrorists.

This removes the motivation for Palestinian terrorists to take more hostages and abduct them in order to secure the release of convicted murderers from Israeli prisons which in fact was the outcome of Hamas' Oct 7th attacks.

That has always been wrong. Impunity for such terrorists always leads to more terrorism.

This removes the motivation for Palestinian terrorists to take more hostages and abduct them in order to secure the release of convicted murderers from Israeli prisons which in fact was the outcome of Hamas' Oct 7th attacks.

It does not. All it does is to protect terrorist Israeli settlers from West Bank Palestinians trying to defend their own homes against those criminal land thieves and is just more proof of an illegal apartheid type set up being applied by Israel.

Why not hang these criminal land thieves that kill Palestinians as well?

Far right Zionism is a criminal cancer now effecting many around the world and that needs to be finally cured or cut out.

This removes the motivation for Palestinian terrorists to take more hostages and abduct them in order to secure the release of convicted murderers from Israeli prisons which in fact was the outcome of Hamas' Oct 7th attacks.

It does not. All it does is to protect terrorist Israeli settlers from West Bank Palestinians trying to defend their own homes against those criminal land thieves and is just more proof of an illegal apartheid type set up being applied by Israel.

Why not hang these criminal land thieves that kill Palestinians as well?

Far right Zionism is a criminal cancer now effecting many around the world and that needs to be finally cured or cut out.

All men are created equal, except Zionists who are better than all others.

Wiggo is correct.

Apartheid was a system of race segregation. Look at so-called Palestinians: homogeneous group of Sunni (and few Christian) Arabs. Eventually you can still identify different clans based on family names, or different accents among them indicating if their ancestors were Palestinian Arabs or migrated to Palestine in the economic boom of the 1920s (initiated by early Zionists btw.)... from Jordan, Lebanon, or Egypt (e.g. Yassir Arafat).

Look at Israelis: among them white Ashkenazim, Yemenite and Oriental Jews, millions of Muslim, Christian, Druze and Bedouine Arabs. There isn't a white supremacist faction segregated from others in Israel.

That's not Apartheid. There's just a rapidly growing number of millions of Arabs in Gaza and (occupied) West Bank, totally dependent on international assistance who don't have an influential and educated elite and thus are incapable to establish an own sovereign nation state or alternatively unite their inhabited territories (so-called 'Palestine' as perceived by the UN) with Egypt resp. Jordan.

Responsible for this are Arabs' (Jordan, Egypt) willful ignorance to any practical solution to the 'Palestinian cause' but also Likud's Greater Israel objectives (and fanatics in power like Ben-Gvir); finally and decisively the Arab islamist terrorists and their current puppet masters (in Tehran and Doha) that up to now undermined each and every approach to achieve peace.

'Zionism' is the belief that Jews are entitled to have a sovereign Jewish nation state on their ancestral lands which exhibits a continuous Jewish cultural history that spans three millennia; the only Jewish state, btw.

The followers of Muhammad who originated from the Arabian Peninsula have conquered a Caliphate that once spread across the Middle East, Northern Africa, the Iberian peninsula. Its remnants are fragmented in 26...27 independent Arab countries today; resp. there are 57 Islamic ones today (Malaysia... Indonesia...), each of which wasn't Islamic before the 7th century conquests.

But Zionism is THE 'cancer that needs to be cured out'?

I challenge this notion. Something different needs to be cut out: the persistent Islamist warmongering, conquest, and terror, which prevents any progress or peace there since a hundred years.

Please mind that the Iranian Mullahs propagate the belief their movement's delusion is the only righteous belief that must be forced upon mankind, all Sunni Arabs included. Without the U.S. nowadays, resp. after the UK/France established (weak) Arab nation states; guess who would easily conquer and subjugate the whole Middle East with all of its oil riches?

It's neither the Zionists, nor the Arab 'king'doms (royal autocracies... or military juntas, anyway), that's for sure.

That's not Apartheid. There's just a rapidly growing number of millions of Arabs in Gaza and (occupied) West Bank, totally dependent on international assistance who don't have an influential and educated elite and thus are incapable to establish an own sovereign nation state or alternatively unite their inhabited territories (so-called 'Palestine' as perceived by the UN) with Egypt resp. Jordan.

When the Zionists prohibit trade, how is a functioning government going to exist? When you bomb away the international airport? When you blast apart the hotels from a thriving tourist trade? When you prohibit fishing in the sea?

'Zionism' is the belief that Jews are entitled to have a sovereign Jewish nation state on their ancestral lands which exhibits a continuous Jewish cultural history that spans three millennia; the only Jewish state, btw.

Yes the sudetenland fantasy. They held a small portion of one city. That is all and all that they should be able to claim as their land.

When the Zionists prohibit trade, how is a functioning government going to exist? When you bomb away the international airport? When you blast apart the hotels from a thriving tourist trade? When you prohibit fishing in the sea?

All this grumbling about a dysfunctional government, obstruction of trade, no airport. It's a waste of time. Thriving tourist trade? ...in Gaza?? ...must have missed that. Anyway...

Constant moral outrage won't eliminate the clear reasons why. So far, there's no influential (trusted) group among the Palestinians willing to behave responsibly, peacefully, to act(speak) for all of them, in a way that builds trust, suggests they are going to uphold agreements... that's why no airport, no harbor, no trade, no functioning government (an Palestinian Army? ...like the Lebanese one?)... They have to start at the beginning (trust), not the end (sovereignty).

Or to put it more bluntly: There are two options to claim the missing freedoms you are complaining about; a sovereign state that controls its harbors, airports, airspace, borders, fisheries, or decides on its intl. coalitions...:

• ONE: Keep the peace; obtain consent from your sovereign neighbors first; typically put on record in a few (friendship?) treaties.
  
• TWO: or... Defeat every opposing power first, which you are may going to endanger, threaten or which you already waged war against. Prepare to preserve your newly proclaimed freedoms the day after, when your new enemies are going to stop you. ...or credibly deter them. Power play with high risks if it fails.
  

It's these century old principles which the UN and supporters of Palestinians don't comprehend. In doing so, they betray them, suggesting there is a fictions 'Palestinian state'. There isn't... not yet.

The Arab powers tried option two repeatedly, wasn't successful. Btw. they never planned to give them a sovereign state. I think Palestinians should stick to option one and their supporters better stop luring them to try option two again and again.

Great Carthage waged three wars. After the first, it was still powerful. After the second, it was still habitable. After the third, it had vanished without a trace.

Bertolt Brecht (1898 - 1956), German writer, poet.

Universally true, isn't it? One should tell it Trump... Netanyahu... Palestinians... Hamas.. Mullahs...

'Zionism' is the belief that Jews are entitled to have a sovereign Jewish nation state on their ancestral lands which exhibits a continuous Jewish cultural history that spans three millennia; the only Jewish state, btw.

Yes the sudetenland fantasy. They held a small portion of one city. That is all and all that they should be able to claim as their land.

Sudetenland fantasy?

I don't think you're convincing me the former inhabitants of so-called 'Sudeten mountains', >80% German-speaking Bohemians, were subject to a delusional fantasy that led them to mistakenly believe they have been native to these mountains since medieval times. The Czechs aren't history-erasing barbarians. Still today I can read the many German-language inscriptions on old tombstones, monuments, castles, historic buildings everywhere there; All towns and villages there also bear historic German names. You find them on old maps; or e.g., in the Germany-localized Google Maps; strange...

After WW2 the Catholic majority German-language Bohemians from so-called 'Sudetenland' were expropriated and brutally expelled (thousands murdered) from Czechoslovakia. Most of them moved to Bavaria, protestants to Saxony.

Do you notice something? There was a country with a similar culture, same language and religion, where they could flee to; where they could merge into the majority society to enjoy full civil rights and state protection without having to give up their own identity. Where can a Jew from Brooklyn flee to when the extent of antisemitism eventually becomes unbearable one day? To Israel and just there.

The raging pro-Palestine mob in Western countries demonstrated why Zionists were right; why today's Israel is indispensable. They threaten and attack their fellow citizens just because... why?

The Jews held just a small portion of a city in Israel? Their ancient ancestors founded this city Jerusalem, one of the oldest of mankind ~3,000 years ago. Even in the 19th century in the Ottoman Empire the majority population of Jerusalem was Jewish. Other large groups with their own city quarters: Armenian, Catholic and Greek Christians, and an Arab minority. The Jews of Jerusalem, also those from the Muslim majority quarters were expelled by (Trans)Jordan just in 1948. When Israel reconquered all of this city in 1967 they did not expel the Arabs from the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem. Were they too considerate?

Millions of Jews settled and owned property all over Europe, Western Asia, Northern Africa in the early 20th century. So you suggest they should claim all of it back? Nobody ever compensated them for their expropriated property in most countries. The Jewish Claims Conference (JCC) just reclaims property stolen by Nazi Germany.

~900K Jews from all Muslim countries were expropriated and expelled after 1948; nobody cares... it was justified, because... Israel.

The peoples right to self determination is indisputable, except for Jews... because...

There's a biased reading of historic events. Nobody cares about misdeeds of Arabs... Russians, of formerly unequal civil rights for Jews... in many countries... forgotten. At least the Holocaust is not.