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Message 2111797 - Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 10:47:18 UTC

Well done kids.

NSW engineering students earn provisional Guinness World Record as their Sunswift 7 becomes the fastest solar-powered race car.

An Australian-made solar-powered race car has narrowly set a provisional Guinness World Record in a 1,000 kilometre race, claiming the title with just six minutes to spare.

The Sunswift 7 vehicle, created by a team of University of New South Wales (UNSW) engineering students, is now on track to hold the record for the fastest electric car to travel more than 1,000 kilometres on a single charge.

But the low-profile vehicle almost missed the finish line, with a battery management issue causing a 14-minute pit stop that almost cancelled the record attempt.

The Sunswift 7, powered by a battery and solar panels on its roof and bonnet, completed 240 laps of Victoria's Australian Automotive Research Centre to complete the challenge, or the equivalent of driving further than Sydney to Melbourne.

Sunswift team manager Andrea Holden said the win had been "validation of all the effort everyone in the team" put in after originally creating the vehicle for the biennial Bridgestone World Solar Challenge that was cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic in 2021....
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Message 2111802 - Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 12:47:49 UTC - in response to Message 2111797.  

Over 620 miles. Nice.
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Message 2113507 - Posted: 24 Jan 2023, 18:39:14 UTC

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Message 2114051 - Posted: 3 Feb 2023, 21:39:28 UTC

When German automaker Porsche was preparing to release its first electric vehicle (EV) in 2019, executives met with a roomful of historians to test a slogan idea: "The world's first electric Porsche."

From the end of the long table, there came a chuckling noise.

Heads turned to stare.

"That won't work," said Guido Eickholz, the director of the archive of the German auto-parts manufacturer, Reutter.

"It's not the first electric Porsche. There's been one done years ago and it's sitting in a factory in Melbourne."....
How the world's first electric Porsche ended up in Melbourne via Pennsylvania.
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Message 2114161 - Posted: 6 Feb 2023, 0:16:38 UTC
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Your typical V8 Supercar or a GT3 race car will lap Mount Panorama in around 2mins 4 secs, but over the weekend Audi pulled it's road going RS e-tron GT for a few laps.

Audi’s RS e-tron GT delivers a shock to the system.

It took just 2mins 21secs to do a lap, not bad at all for a 2.4-tonne electric "road" car against full on race cars that weigh much less.
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Message 2116414 - Posted: 20 Mar 2023, 8:32:49 UTC

7 minute read.
Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car
LONDON/DETROIT, March 20 (Reuters) - For many electric vehicles, there is no way to repair or assess even slightly damaged battery packs after accidents, forcing insurance companies to write off cars with few miles - leading to higher premiums and undercutting gains from going electric.
And now those battery packs are piling up in scrapyards in some countries, a previously unreported and expensive gap in what was supposed to be a "circular economy."
"We're buying electric cars for sustainability reasons," said Matthew Avery, research director at automotive risk intelligence company Thatcham Research. "But an EV isn't very sustainable if you've got to throw the battery away after a minor collision."
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Unless Tesla and other carmakers produce more easily repairable battery packs and provide third-party access to battery cell data, already-high insurance premiums will keep rising as EV sales grow and more low-mileage cars get scrapped after collisions, insurers and industry experts said.
"The number of cases is going to increase, so the handling of batteries is a crucial point," said Christoph Lauterwasser, managing director of the Allianz Center for Technology, a research institute owned by Allianz (ALVG.DE).
Lauterwasser noted EV battery production emits far more CO2 than fossil-fuel models, meaning EVs must be driven for thousands of miles before they offset those extra emissions.

"If you throw away the vehicle at an early stage, you've lost pretty much all advantage in terms of CO2 emissions," he said.
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Message 2116893 - Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 0:27:41 UTC

That's some price increase.
Ford hikes F-150 Lightning's price again to battle high costs
The base variant of Ford's electric F-150 truck now starts at $59,974, excluding shipping and taxes, up nearly 50% from its starting price when launched last year.
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Message 2117285 - Posted: 8 Apr 2023, 18:40:51 UTC

The next problem to be sorted out, Multi-story car parks.

Most car parks were built in the late 60's and 70's, the most popular cars in the UK at that time, Cortinas and Vivas weighed about 770kg. The current Tesla 3 weighs in at 1672kgs and even the Nissan Leaf, one of the smallest EV's comes in at 1580kgs.

Were the car parks designed to take this extra weight and even if they were have they been maintained well enough to take the designed load. If not then are we going to see weight limits, or closures, or are thge owners going to ignore the problem until we have a collapse?
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Message 2117289 - Posted: 8 Apr 2023, 19:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 2117285.  

That's good...

At long last we can have parking spaces that are doubled in size so that the humans are not doubled up in contortions to squeeze out of ridiculously small gaps for the overcrowded too-small parking spaces.

Hopefully that will also reduce the cost of repairing the dings from other's struggles with extricating themselves after parking up...


An update in the regulations needed?...

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Message 2117301 - Posted: 8 Apr 2023, 20:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 2117285.  

or are the owners going to ignore the problem until we have a collapse?


Probably, then we will see weight limits imposed, and most "small" cars will exceed the imposed limit with the drivers being ignorant of this until the penalty notices start landing through the post.
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Message 2117317 - Posted: 8 Apr 2023, 22:59:42 UTC - in response to Message 2117289.  

That's good...

At long last we can have parking spaces that are doubled in size so that the humans are not doubled up in contortions to squeeze out of ridiculously small gaps for the overcrowded too-small parking spaces.

Hopefully that will also reduce the cost of repairing the dings from other's struggles with extricating themselves after parking up...


An update in the regulations needed?...

Stay cool folks...
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The small spaces are again a hangover from the 60's/70's as cars were also narrower then. We like our comforts and a bit of space too much and expect electric windows and mirrors these days, so cars got wider.
If you want wider parking spaces, then be prepared to pay more, the owners and shareholders cannot be expected to lose money, can they, it would probably be guarenteed that maintenance would be reduced, increasing the chances of a collapse.
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Message 2118348 - Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 22:06:42 UTC

Guess his extension cord was not long enough.
“Towed my first EV Today… a brand new $90,000 electric pickup from the rest area on South Pass to Rocksprings…” Jake Yeaman, tow truck operator with Specialty Towing, wrote in a Facebook post.
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Message 2118349 - Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 22:15:30 UTC - in response to Message 2118348.  

Guess his extension cord was not long enough.
“Towed my first EV Today… a brand new $90,000 electric pickup from the rest area on South Pass to Rocksprings…” Jake Yeaman, tow truck operator with Specialty Towing, wrote in a Facebook post.

There needs to be a figure quoted for, max milage when the weather is cold and wet at night in hilly country, in the specs.
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Message 2118362 - Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 1:00:02 UTC - in response to Message 2118349.  

Guess his extension cord was not long enough.
“Towed my first EV Today… a brand new $90,000 electric pickup from the rest area on South Pass to Rocksprings…” Jake Yeaman, tow truck operator with Specialty Towing, wrote in a Facebook post.

There needs to be a figure quoted for, max milage when the weather is cold and wet at night in hilly country, in the specs.

You assume people: 1) can read 2) do math 3) aware of surroundings ...
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Message 2118365 - Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 1:22:05 UTC - in response to Message 2118362.  

Guess his extension cord was not long enough.
“Towed my first EV Today… a brand new $90,000 electric pickup from the rest area on South Pass to Rocksprings…” Jake Yeaman, tow truck operator with Specialty Towing, wrote in a Facebook post.
There needs to be a figure quoted for, max milage when the weather is cold and wet at night in hilly country, in the specs.
You assume people: 1) can read 2) do math 3) aware of surroundings ...
And even if it was put in the owner's manual the only likely person to touch that will be the mechanic servicing it.
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Message 2119350 - Posted: 13 May 2023, 22:08:52 UTC

Knock a couple of zeros off the price and this would be a real buzz.

Tiny Electric Car Cost $420,000 To Build (video).

A MAN claims he has created a car that might solve the world’s traffic congestion problems. Rick Woodbury from Spokane, Washington USA, is the president, founder and sole employee of ‘Commuter Cars.’ The carmaker’s flagship model is the 2005 super slim two-seater Tango T600, a high-performance electric car that preceded Tesla. Rick told BTV: “I started this company 21 years ago – it was based on an idea that I came up with in 1982.” He was inspired by the shocking traffic congestion he had to face on a daily basis.
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Message 2124925 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 23:28:12 UTC

Have they?

Scientists just invented a new material that could help EVs drive 10 times as far before needing a recharge.

Electric vehicles are taking the world by storm — and now, new research in lithium-ion batteries could expand EVs’ driving range up to ten times.

Two of South Korea’s top research universities — Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH) and Sogang University — have joined forces to create a new material that could radically expand the charge capacity of EV batteries.

The new material developed by the researchers uses both hydrogen bonding and Coulombic forces — best summed up as the attraction between negative and positive charges, according to SciTechDaily. By combatting the shortcomings of high-capacity anode materials, these combined forces allow the researchers to use silicon and other high-capacity materials that were previously too unreliable for widespread use in EV batteries.

Silicon and other high-capacity anode materials have at least 10 times the capacity of the materials that are currently used, like graphite.

The researchers discovered that by removing cobalt and increasing the amount of lithium in EV batteries, their energy density substantially increases and retains most of its capacity after hundreds of charges.....
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Message 2126417 - Posted: 3 Oct 2023, 23:32:17 UTC

Donny gets fact checked on his EV claims.

Trump’s Misleading Claims About Electric Vehicles and the Auto Industry.

In a speech at a Michigan auto parts plant, former President Donald Trump distorted the facts about electric vehicles and the U.S. auto industry.

* Trump said President Joe Biden “has dictated that nearly 70% of all cars” made in the U.S. must be “fully electric” in 10 years. The administration cannot mandate how many cars must be all-electric. It proposed new emission standards, and how the industry meets the new rules is up to them.

* We found no support for Trump’s claim that the proposed rules would kill 40% of the auto industry’s jobs. Instead, Ford’s CEO said EVs take 40% less labor to make, but the company would offset job losses by making its own EV parts.

* Trump claimed all-electric vehicles can only “drive for 15 minutes before you have to get a charge.” Most EVs have a range of 110 to 300 miles, with some expensive models reaching 400 to 500 miles.

* He claimed EVs are “bad … for the environment.” But studies show that electric cars produce less pollution over their entire lifespan than gas-powered vehicles.

* He said Ford expects to lose $4.5 billion on EVs. The company projected that loss for this year but expects to make a profit on EVs by the end of 2026.

* Trump falsely claimed he “saved American auto manufacturing” after “eight long years of [Barack] Obama and [Joe] Biden.” The Obama administration helped rescue the industry, which increased the number of motor vehicle and parts manufacturing jobs in Michigan by 79,600, or 83%, in those eight years.....
The battery issue was about the only thing that he was about half right about.
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Message 2126450 - Posted: 4 Oct 2023, 17:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 2126417.  

Yes...

Compare with:

(YouTube) Ex-Top Gear Star Sets Electric Car "Experts" Straight. Shocking Truth About EVs!
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Is it any wonder that politicians like Rishi Sunak & Donald Trump are pushing back so hard against Electric Cars when there is so much wrong with them? Too expensive, too heavy, flawed batteries, flawed infrastructure, & are they really 'greener ' anyway? These are just some of the things that we hear every day.

So why are sales of battery electric vehicles growing like crazy around the globe?...



There is quite a different world between reality, and the Oil-ICE-sponsored sell-more 'PR' and their 'FUD'.

Enjoy reality?!

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Message 2126484 - Posted: 5 Oct 2023, 5:04:59 UTC - in response to Message 2126450.  

FUD: Fear Uncertainty and Doubt to stifle any/all change to anything good and new

Is that anything like RFP: Reality, Fraud, Propaganda?
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