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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This article nicely summaries how AMD pioneered the use of, and commercially exploited, present day chiplets ahead of Intel so as to very successfully get ahead of Intel... Chiplets helped save AMD. They might also help save Moore’s law and head off an energy crisis wrote: ... AMD came to the conclusion that it didn’t have the resources to replicate Intel’s wide range of server chip designs and compete head-to-head across all those categories. It would be too expensive and difficult for the much smaller rival. And if it copied Intel, nothing about the new line of server chips would stand out either. I'll leave it to others to argue the history... Happy crunchin'! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13847 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
This article nicely summaries how AMD pioneered the use of, and commercially exploited, present day chiplets ahead of Intel so as to very successfully get ahead of Intel...Building on work that has been done previously and giving it a new name doesn't make them the first to do it. It just makes them the first to use the term. Grant Darwin NT |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
no one is saying that what AMD did with Zen wasn't novel. It certainly was, especially as it pertains to the IO die. but don't act like they invented the technology. they built on what Intel already did and used it in a different way and slapped a new name on it. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36613 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
After Intel says one of its 13th Gen CPUs will hit 6GHz out of the box they went and just leaked its 13th Gen processor specs. Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36613 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Nvidia has some stiff competition ahead of it. Intel’s RTX 3060 competitor is priced at just $289 Cheers. |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Why would Nvidia care that Intel is competing with a previous gen product from 2 years ago? These kinds of clickbait headlines are just asinine. It’s like racing a parked car. Nvidia isn’t trying to compete with Intel here lol. But I think it’s the $329 A770 that will compete more on par with the the 3060 anyway. Kudos to the Intel team for sticking this out. But Nvidia’s drivers are way more mature and they have matured features that Intel hasn’t proven yet (media encoding, super sampling, and ray tracing). There will be growing pains for Intel at launch. Drivers will need to be fine tuned and I hope they make it a priority, especially on the Linux front. Realistically, Intel will likely be in the same camp as AMD for many generations to come, always competing with nvidia’s last gen stuff or competing on the low-mid range, and not the very top. And on a more relevant note, BOINC projects are going to need to make some adjustments at least to their schedulers if they want to support these cards. Maybe even BOINC GPU detection itself. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Intel Marketing says thus... Intel's policies have made ECC so rare in the mass market... Indeed... Why is ECC RAM needlessly and detrimentally so ridiculously rare?!!! IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3332 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Intel Marketing says thus... Because someone decided that they need an excuse to make extra money / price gouge the average PC customer by what appears to be intentional tall tales. |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Intel Marketing says thus... Do you have ECC on any of your systems? Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Do you have ECC on any of your systems? Yes. Some, but not all despite all my AMD systems being ECC RAM capable for all of the CPU, motherboard/mainboard, and BIOS. And despite the wish to go all out ECC. But... There are games at play... Happy crunchin'... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Intel is back with WHAT?!... Intel offers desktop chip that can hit 6GHz if everything goes right, you can keep it cool, stars align, pigs fly wrote: Intel delivered on its promise of a 6GHz Raptor Lake chip this week with the launch of its Core i9 13900KS. Years late and 36 cores short of AMD, who are Intel’s 4th-gen Xeons even for? wrote: Here's what $17,000 of silicon gets you... Warm over to those?... Happy hot crunchin' folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Intel is back with WHAT?!... After too long a teaser, we have: Linus Tech Tips - Intel’s New CPUs... Hot stuff? At what fearful cost? (And who pays??) ... Special bits for crunching AI... And DRM baked into the CPUs themselves so that only Intel Marketing can turn you on... What strange business is this?... Enjoy? Martin DRM: Digital Restrictions Marketing See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1136 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
I remember a Linus Torvalds freaking out in a discussion a few years ago, resolutely opposing calling a bug a "bug" because the cause was nowhere in the Linux kernel, but in the Intel CPU's memory protection during speculative code execution. He said angrily that we should probably get over x86/x86_64 and look for the future in a clean ARM64 architecture. So additional bits for AI and "baked in" DRM. Fine. What about similar weaknesses like SPECTRE and MELTDOWN? Can they be ruled out with such a complex instruction set as Intel's with an (almost) infinite number of extensions added within four decades? The future will show. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36613 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Intel Touts Three Future Generations of PC Processors to Take On Apple. Intel held a coming-out party Tuesday for its Meteor Lake, the processor that will go on sale Dec. 14. But if you're trying to decide whether to stick with Intel-powered Windows laptops or move to Apple's efficient, powerful new MacBooks, pay attention to the three other processors in the works.Cheers. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1136 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Intel Touts Three Future Generations of PC Processors to Take On Apple. "You can definitely tell there is a vibe again that Intel is an engineering-led company again," [...] "That's the image they need to portray after years being run by accountants."Off topic... but that maybe also the ultimate solution for Boeing's series of mishaps. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Same old thing, same old ways?... Downfall fallout: Intel knew AVX chips were insecure and did nothing, lawsuit claims wrote: Billions of data-leaking processors sold despite warnings and patch just made them slower, punters complain... The pricing stays up as the performance goes down... Happy crunchin'? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Intel is back in the news for all the wrong reasons... Intel Accused of Inflating Over 2,600 CPU Benchmark Results wrote: ... SPEC, has invalidated over 2600 of its own results testing [Intel] Xeon processors... Same old "game"?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3332 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Intel 14900KS runs so hot, PC makers can officially dismantle it The first delidded Core i9 14900KS gaming systems appear, promising improved cooling, and they're reportedly backed up by Intel's warranty. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This is quite THE turnaround: AMD Overtakes Intel in Datacenter Sales For First Time How did Intel go so wrong?... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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