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Message 2092973 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 12:35:25 UTC - in response to Message 2092941.  

Meanwhile...

Back to reality...
Are you saying that the PPE fiasco never happened?
What reality are you living in?
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Message 2092975 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 14:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 2092973.  
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Meanwhile...

Back to reality...
Are you saying that the PPE fiasco never happened?
What reality are you living in?

The non-believers of covid certainly do not believe in using any PPE!

Except that is for steel toe caps and hard hats... And that is only because they are not allowed to work otherwise. Also, they usually quickly learn after whatever first visit to casualty...

(Except for the inevitable exceptions... One idiot thought ear defenders were for 'sissies'. Sure enough, a certain ear-piercing piece of equipment soon made him deaf as well as even more daft... Sometimes, no meaningful communication is possible... Impossible to explain anything to his boss either!)
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Message 2092976 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 14:32:59 UTC

How will the UK covid numbers go?... How many more deaths??...


Do we hold steady around the 100,000 new infections (as reported) each day?

Or does the pandemic magically end this Monday as decreed by Boris Johnson?...


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Message 2092987 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:27:52 UTC - in response to Message 2092976.  
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Are you looking at all the information in you comparison to previous variants?
How many hospitalisations are there? or, How many do not end up in hospital?
If they go to hospital;
how many go on to require assisted breathing?, or, how many are classified as recovered?
And if the stay in hospital how many end up in ICU?
How many die.

And these are probably best done as percentages of the 'new cases'.

Because if you do look further then it would appear from a very quick check of the Worldometer numbers that there are nearly twice as many recovering every day than new cases. And that is for today, yesterday and 2 days ago.

Or are you blinded by big numbers just like the politicians would like you to be. an off topic example https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58959045
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Message 2092991 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:52:52 UTC - in response to Message 2092987.  
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There is an obvious game being played of avoiding putting the NHS into complete meltdown, but to otherwise 'keep things moving regardless'...

Hence the fallback of the temporary "Nightingale" centres to be used as a 'Get out of disaster' joker card in case the 'big numbers' do not go favorably.

Meanwhile, there appears to be no cares about how many get ill and how many suffer long term ailments from covid provided that the hospitals ICU stay out of the news...


Is there a game being played that takes advantage of (risking) killing off the older generations sooner?

As reported, 100,000 people a day newly infected is a lot of people off work being ill, and also a high proportion of the population. Previously, we have been in total lockdown for far lower numbers.

The real numbers come out on Fridays from the ONS report for the week before.


Is our government's "exit strategy" to play a game of letting evolution take whatever 'natural' course, regardless of expert advice?


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Message 2092992 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:54:17 UTC

So... For one effective and easy reduction of infection rates:

Really, what is the problem for the UK and the USA for people to wear masks in public?


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Message 2092993 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:59:14 UTC
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Some explanation of the numbers here in "Most Covid hospital patients in England not being treated primarily for virus"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/27/covid-hospital-patients-england-not-treated-primarily-virus/
The number of people in hospital in England with primary Covid is now at its lowest since December, having fallen 27 per cent since it peaked at 8,582 patients on January 10.

The percentage of hospital beds being taken up by Covid patients has also fallen to 13.2 per cent compared with 14.8 per cent last week, and 29.8 per cent in last year’s January wave.


edit] And lets not forget that for countries with a population of over 10 million the UK is the most tested country in the world per capita. The next country in that list is France with only just over half as many tests per capita.

The more you test the more cases you will find.
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Message 2092995 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 20:00:19 UTC

Really, what is the problem for the UK and the USA for people to wear masks in public?


You Know Darn Well - People are NOT Allowed to Answer.

However, I have Heard Countless DRs; PhDs; and Other ESTEEMED Answer And I AGREE with Them.

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Message 2092999 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 20:51:17 UTC - in response to Message 2092991.  

Meanwhile, there appears to be no cares about how many get ill and how many suffer long term ailments from covid provided that the hospitals ICU stay out of the news...
gimme or altruism

Is there a game being played that takes advantage of (risking) killing off the older generations sooner?
Underfunded pension plans

Is our government's "exit strategy" to play a game of letting evolution take whatever 'natural' course, regardless of expert advice?
never evolution, only gods will
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Message 2093001 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 21:02:39 UTC

GOD is Great.

Science is MEH

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Message 2093004 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 21:34:36 UTC - in response to Message 2093001.  
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Are you willing to go back and enjoy the lifestyle before Issac Newton and the Industrial Revolution?

Thought not.

Therefore science and engineering are Great.
god is meh.
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Message 2093013 - Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 23:06:24 UTC

Are you willing to go back and enjoy the lifestyle before Issac Newton and the Industrial Revolution?


On Long Cold WINTER NIGHTs - I Do Contemplate LifeStyle Choices.

Science MEH is Reference to Media and MediaAbusers USING Science for AGENDAs NOT Conducive to MANYs Well Being. WORSE is Actual SCIENTISTs Doing So. One Would Actually THINK, Knowing How Religion has Been USED for NEGATIVE Outcomes, to Use SCIENCE in Same Ways to DESTROY People and Institutions.

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Message 2093015 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 0:29:12 UTC

Kiribati blasted onto the charts and has shot up to 213th spot in their 1st week. :-O

The world's total case tally has now passed 366 million as total deaths now exceed 5.6 million. :-(

But trying to keep up with all the place changes on the lists is damn near impossible these days with countries jumping around all over the place.

Though the U.S. still leads the way with 1 of their unfinished clubhouses being prepared for tomorrow's grand opening of their 75M+ club while another was used for their 900K+ clubhouse's grand opening that occurred today.

India entered the 40M+ case club while Brazil made it into the 24M+ club and may enter the 25M+ clubhouse tomorrow. France is flying through the clubs entering the 18M+ club today and the 20M+ club is well within their reach. The U.K. has made it into the 16M+ club while Russia is trying to stay ahead of Turkey in the 11M+ club as Italy cruises through the 10M+ clubhouse in pursuit of both Russia and Turkey and Spain is trying to stay ahead of Germany in the 9M+ club. That rounds out the case list top 10 and the top 10 highest daily performers (just not quite in that order).

And all the protesters around the world are doing nothing other than fueling the fire thus making everything even worse (and that includes the worldwide inflation rates).

I must also add, if you don't believe in science then what the hell are you doing here?
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Message 2093018 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 0:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 2093015.  

That's some pretty impressive bad news from France, 5 million cases in two weeks.
From your https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85768&postid=2092155#2092155,
but France is rocketing along as they flew into the 13M+ club while they keep on breaking records
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Message 2093020 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 1:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 2093013.  

Your choice
Spinning wheel, with no cotton cloth for you, just very rough wool at best.
or
the Spinning Jenny and the flying shuttle plus mercerisation so you can have it permanently coloured to any pattern you want, at a price you can afford.
N.B. All invented in or within a few miles of my Dad's home town.
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Message 2093027 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 2:02:08 UTC

I must also add, if you don't believe in science then what the hell are you doing here?


When Did I Say? I DO NOT BELIEVE in Science?

I've Read My Posts and I've NEVER Said: I DO NOT BELIEVE in Science. If One Believes I am Intimating Such - I Am NOT.

Continue to Have Your Fun.

It is Your Right.

And I APPLAUD Your Right to Have Fun.

There are People Reading My Posts and DO NOT Publicly Comment on This MB about or Reference My Posts. Their Right.

Lots of INVENTIONs were NOT Invented by Scientists. Use of Fire? Wheel? Foot Wear? Body Coverings? Club? Dice? Bowling Pins?

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Message 2093028 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 2:04:08 UTC

Funny considering how much you are rubbishing it then.
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Message 2093029 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 2:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 2093027.  

Lots of INVENTIONs were NOT Invented by Scientists. Use of Fire? Wheel? Foot Wear? Body Coverings? Club? Dice? Bowling Pins?
Not surprising as the term "Scientist" wasn't used until the middle of the 19th century.

So strictly speaking Issac Newton wasn't known as a scientist in his lifetime.
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Message 2093032 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 3:48:47 UTC

Not surprising as the term "Scientist" wasn't used until the middle of the 19th century.

So strictly speaking Issac Newton wasn't known as a scientist in his lifetime.


I Commend Your Continuing Efforts at Having Fun. Thanks for All Historical Info. Very Interesting.

I Wonder Who 'Invented' Idea of Tabulating Historical Info? I'd Like to Thank Him/Her when I Get To GREAT BEYOND. Praise GOD.

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Message 2093035 - Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 5:50:32 UTC

inventions are done by engineers, discoveries are done by scientists
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