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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Deny this?... New global dataset shines a light on humidity extremes wrote: ... As the global temperature of our atmosphere rises, it can hold more moisture. As well as contributing to an increase in frequency and intensity of extreme rain events, this additional moisture held in the atmosphere can increase humidity. Humidity affects how easily the body can cool by sweating. In warm, humid conditions this is more difficult... Note that dataset is only from 1970 onwards. Also that the "0" threshold line is arbitrarily set at the midpoint of the days count scale... To my eye, that data suggests there is an ongoing steady increase from BEFORE 1970 which isn't covered by that data... Stay cool?! If ya can?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24907 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Why should an individual do their "bit" for the climate, when they constantly see crap like this giving them "the Bird"?If you think that's bad, try this... ...Climate change is just a figment of someone's imagination |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Flippy-floppy-wishy-washy Rishi diktat politics reigns supreme over reality? ‘Detached from reality’: anger as Rishi Sunak plans to restrict solar panels wrote: Climate campaigners dismiss government argument that controversial move will improve food security Building firms tell Sunak undoing green policies will hit housing investment wrote: More than 100 leading companies urge PM to reinstate net zero measures to avoid hardship for many So... Our politicians like to play their golf? And our planet be damned. Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36378 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Sounds like Sunak has been taking advise from our SloMo. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22454 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The only good thing is that Sunak will soon be facing an election, which he will hopefully be removed from office and loose his seat. He is rapidly becoming (if he hasn't already become) a monstrous liability to the Conservative party. A summary of his destructive to the environment reads like a Steven King horror story. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19316 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The only good thing is that Sunak will soon be facing an election, which he will hopefully be removed from office and loose his seat. He is rapidly becoming (if he hasn't already become) a monstrous liability to the Conservative party. The problem is, are any of the alternatives any better. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22454 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
In the forth-coming by-election we have one candidate standing for a party whose name suggests hey know they are mad or at least loonies. Unlike all the other parties who say the are sane, but one has good reason to doubt that..... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Just one small consequence. but a worldwide exemplar for many others in our world: Claimants take UK government to court over inadequate climate adaptation wrote: Kevin Jordan, whose home is 5 metres from the cliff edge in Norfolk, says government’s shortcomings breach his human rights Meanwhile, our politicians procrastinate yet further too late... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19316 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Who said it was safe for a century? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30932 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Who said it was safe for a century?The agent so he could get his commission and run. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The politics of continued Denial... Is this the only way to keep in the news? Just Stop Oil: Activists arrested after National Gallery painting damaged wrote: Two Just Stop Oil protesters have been arrested after glass protecting the Rokeby Venus painting at the National Gallery in London was smashed... How do we cleanly get off all the dirty oil and gas pollution?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36378 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I reckon that it's the fossil fuel industry behind this sort of misinformation that the mushrooms feed on. Editor of scientific journal says fake study linking whale deaths to wind farms is 'deliberate misinformation'. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36378 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Are we already in a runaway mode? Scientists studying Antarctic Circumpolar Current to take closer look at 'heat flux gates' letting in warmer water. It is the planet's strongest flow of water and behaves like a climatic force field in the Southern Ocean. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
All 'just' an oligarchs' 'game'? EU, Germany and Denmark sued by oil firm over windfall tax wrote: Exclusive: Officials fear secret courts will block climate action and divert billions into coffers of fossil fuel investors... I consider that the ECT was flawed from the outset and is also now long outdated and not fit for purpose... IIRC elsewhere, we still subsidize the fossil fuels industries to the tune of about 7% of the WORLD GDP! Are we long long overdue to get real on such continued expensive pollution?... All on our only one planet... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Deny this?... COP28: UAE planned to use climate talks to make oil deals wrote: The United Arab Emirates planned to use its role as the host of UN climate talks as an opportunity to strike oil and gas deals... How to deal with those cynically destructively untrustworthy? All on our only one planet... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
More of the deadly greedy game of Denial? Revealed: Saudi Arabia’s grand plan to ‘hook’ poor countries on oil wrote: Saudi Arabia is driving a huge global investment plan to create demand for its oil and gas in developing countries ... Critics said the plan was designed to get countries “hooked on its harmful products”. All 'just' a 'game' to have the world burn? All on our only one planet... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21012 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And there are Consequences: Toxic gas putting millions at risk in Middle East... wrote: ... Flaring - the burning of waste gas during oil drilling - is taking place across the Gulf, including by COP28 hosts the United Arab Emirates. See the flaring. They are brighter and more expansive than some of the local cities! All on our only one planet... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24907 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Many know that the UN is nothing more than a toothless tiger. Blah, Blah, Blah Climate change? What climate change? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36378 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Twiggy gets up them at COP 28. Andrew Forrest calls for fossil fuel bosses' 'heads on spikes' in extraordinary outburst on sidelines of UN COP28 climate conference. Australian mining magnate and climate campaigner Andrew Forrest has lashed out in an extraordinary outburst aimed at oil and gas supremos, saying their heads should be "put on spikes". |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1072 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
The heads of the fossil fuel industry bosses to be put on a spike? Then what about the green, environmentally conscious politicians who travel around the world in gas-guzzling government jets, visit developing countries, where they advocate their energy transition to renewables, the move away from oil and gas, which they are eager to support with a lot of money in these countries too. Immediately afterwards, they sign supply contracts for oil, gas and coal, the actual reason for their trip. They seek as much fossils as possible, at almost any price. (Germany imports coal from Australia, South Africa, Colombia, LNG as far as from Australia, shipped halfway around the globe). We have condemned and banned nuclear energy as a biblical mortal sin. Without these fossil energies as a backup, our renewable energy policies in Central Europe (50...60 deg north latitude) simply don't work. So what about the fossil fuel buyers? Are they morally superior than the providers? So, the heads of the fossil fuel bosses should roll. Well, then please chain all our green politicians next to them to a pillory and provide rotten tomatoes for the people to throw. Only when the demand for fossil fuels declines will the fossil bosses' profits fall and this industry will come to an end. This requires a sensible, realistic energy policy. I think it's wrong to blame the fossil industry for CO2 emissions. Of course you can rightly accuse them of wanting to save their dirty business. But those responsible in Qatar, for example, understand a hundred times more about responsible, practically implementable energy policy, the integration of renewables that focuses on security of supply and reasonable prices than the green ideologues who are currently determining our failing energy policy. |
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