Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: Continued DENIAL (#6)

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Message 2109911 - Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 2:21:08 UTC
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How about the police and the courts doing their duty.

1980 Highways act. c. 66 Part IX Obstruction of highways and...

137. Penalty for wilful obstruction.

(1) If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or a fine or both.

WE do not see any more of this, or worse. Just Stop Oil protests: Police officer hurt amid M25 disruption
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Message 2109979 - Posted: 11 Nov 2022, 18:14:52 UTC

What continued madness is this?...


COP27: Key climate goal of 1.5C rise...
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Emissions of CO2 are rising so quickly there is now a 50% chance the world will cross a crucial climate change threshold soon...

... breaching a key 1.5C temperature rise threshold in [JUST] nine years...

... "The report should remind negotiators at COP27 that their actions so far have been inadequate."...


COP27: Sharp rise in fossil fuel industry delegates at climate summit
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The number of delegates with links to fossil fuels at the UN climate summit has jumped 25% from the last meeting...

... more than 600 people at the talks in Egypt are linked to fossil fuels. That's more than the combined delegations from the 10 most climate-impacted countries...

... "We're on a carousel of madness here rather than climate action. The fossil fuel industry, their agenda, it's deadly. Their motivation is profit and greed. They're not serious about climate action. They never have been and they never will."...


COP27: The Namibia-Botswana oil project being called a sin
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... In the Southern African country of Botswana lies one of the largest inland deltas in the world, a landscape the UN has called "exceptional" and "rare" in its beauty...

... A Canadian company, Reconnaissance Energy Africa (ReconAfrica), believes there could be a wealth of oil and gas under the ground in the north of Botswana and neighbouring Namibia. It holds exploration licences for a 34,325sq km area straddling the border of the two countries. Three test wells have already been drilled in Namibia...



"... actions so far have been inadequate.", "... a carousel of madness...", "... a wealth of oil and gas..."

Indeed, what madness is this?...


How do we cure the madness so that we can enjoy our planet, "exceptional" and "rare" in its beauty?

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Message 2109980 - Posted: 11 Nov 2022, 18:32:52 UTC - in response to Message 2109911.  
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... WE do not [want] see any more of this...

Well...

These people look to be very much more genuine and personally motivated and caring. Vastly more so than that for what we see from the fossil fuels polluters wreaking their greedy profitable wrecking of vastly greater disruption:

Times Radio - Just Stop Oil threaten more disruption


You don't get interviews like that from the coal and oil industries.

Where do we go from here?

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Message 2110023 - Posted: 12 Nov 2022, 10:44:17 UTC

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Message 2110028 - Posted: 12 Nov 2022, 14:03:36 UTC

If you have an hour to spare, here is a lecture on all the raw materials needed to go green

CRITICAL RAW MATERIALS for the ENERGY TRANSITION*; LECTURE by Dr. Kathryn Goodenough (BGS*)

With a nice quote "If it can't be grown, it must be mined"

*BGS - British Geological Survey
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Message 2110255 - Posted: 16 Nov 2022, 19:04:37 UTC
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Yet another example of pollute and be damned...


Oil pollution: Investigation reveals Egypt’s 'super coral' at risk
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As Egypt hosts world leaders at COP27 to discuss action over climate change, an oil terminal is dumping toxic wastewater on the country's Red Sea coast...

... "produced water" from Egypt's Ras Shukeir oil terminal is being dumped into the Red Sea every day. The barely treated wastewater - which is brought to the surface during oil and gas drilling - contains high levels of toxins, oil and grease...

... "very alarming", showing pollution from lead, cadmium, copper, nickel and other heavy metals...

... satellite images shows a wide plume of green effluent flowing into the sea, travelling up to 20 km (12 miles) south into areas harbouring marine life...

... while there are signs of a thriving ecosystem on either side of the impacted area, "suddenly you can see it's hard to see through the water" because of "something on the surface which looks like pollution". ... compounds contained in "produced water" can react with sea water, absorb oxygen, and suffocate even the most resilient marine life...



All in the name of short term greed...

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Message 2110800 - Posted: 30 Nov 2022, 23:20:48 UTC
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Pollution...?

What's that??...


Wasted methane gas 'a scandal'
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The UK government is allowing the fossil fuel industry to waste large amounts of gas ... oil and gas companies are wasting enough methane to power more than 700,000 UK homes.

It says high energy prices mean more of the gas should be captured and used.

A spokesperson for UK oil and gas companies rejected that, saying it was not profitable to capture all of it...

... cutting down on it in the oil and gas production that accounts for 11% of emissions is considered low-hanging fruit.

The vast bulk of the UK oil and gas industry is located offshore in the North Sea. Methane is brought to the surface as a routine part of production. Part of it is flared (burnt); vented (released) or leaks out of pipes...

... "flaring and venting and associated emissions should be at the lowest possible levels in the circumstances." But critics say there's not enough monitoring or enforcement.

In October 2021 the International Energy Agency (IEA) calculated that 45% of global methane emissions could be stopped at no net cost to the oil and gas companies. Now [with increased gas prices], stopping emissions should even be profitable...



The continuing problem here is that the oil industry has no costs to what volume of the Earth's resources that they squander and waste. Worse still, there are no costs to their business for causing reckless pollution...

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Message 2110831 - Posted: 1 Dec 2022, 19:01:00 UTC
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Really?...


Canada: Ambassador tells EU that deforestation rules 'burdensome'
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Canada's ambassador to the European Union has voiced concern with proposed EU rules to curb deforestation.

A November letter from Ailish Campbell said the rules add "burdensome" requirements and will hurt trade between Canada and the EU. The EU regulation aims to limit the trade of products linked to deforestation worldwide.

Climate campaigners have called Canada's resistance to the rules "shocking"...



That really does suggest that the EU rules are good and really are needed. And without being watered down for the sake of the likes of Sarah Palin...

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Message 2110883 - Posted: 2 Dec 2022, 20:43:34 UTC
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We need to move further, faster, with this...


Oil giant TotalEnergies to cut North Sea investment over windfall tax
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French oil giant TotalEnergies has said it will cut North Sea investment by 25% next year after the windfall tax on oil and gas firms in the UK was extended...



We already have the technology available to smoothly and rapidly move off dirty polluting old oil.

Why not go cleaner and sooner??...


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Message 2110888 - Posted: 2 Dec 2022, 21:38:39 UTC

It Can Be Done as FAST as The DIRTY MONIES of 'CLEAN' 'TECH' can Be FUNNELED into da Right Pockets.

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Message 2111002 - Posted: 5 Dec 2022, 7:58:07 UTC
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As our own slow moving flood seas continue on their agonising slow way down to S.A. others are suffering much worse.

Landslide in Colombia kills three people, traps 20, as La Niña wreaks more havoc.

Meanwhile up in tropical Darwin.

Darwin heat stings as parts of city still without shade trees years after Cyclone Marcus ripped through.

I reckon that Mother Nature is getting angry at us.
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Message 2111027 - Posted: 5 Dec 2022, 22:52:29 UTC - in response to Message 2110883.  
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Message 2111486 - Posted: 14 Dec 2022, 20:39:45 UTC

Meanwhile...

The consequences continue...


More snow and RAIN is falling in the Arctic
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... It's getting wetter everywhere, and in all seasons, with a shift from snow to rain at the fringes of the Arctic where the temperatures are highest.

October 2021 through to September 2022 was the 3rd wettest year of the past 72 years...

... "Over most parts of the Arctic, there are positive trends in the years' heaviest one-day and five-day precipitation amounts. This is especially true in the sub-Arctic North Atlantic, while the number of consecutive wet days is increasing over much of the central Arctic."...

... Alaska's second largest city, Fairbanks, recently experienced a 35mm downfall. The problem is the ice layer that's left behind. It makes roads more hazardous and creates difficulties for foraging wildlife until the spring thaw comes. Other complications include the rapid melt of heavier amounts of snowfall, which leads to flooding...

... Warmer temperatures mean more moisture is evaporating from the ocean, which will eventually precipitate out and show up as snow or rain. But the higher temperatures are also melting the sea-ice cover, exposing more ocean to evaporation, leading to further precipitation...



Have we already tripped across one of the world-changing Tipping Points?...

"Don't Look Up" north?...


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Message 2111769 - Posted: 19 Dec 2022, 18:30:58 UTC

WE'RE ALL DOOMED TO DIE IN LESS THAN 80 YEARS!
Supercomputer predicts mass extinction by 2100 with a quarter of Earth’s species lost
The terrifying conclusion comes after scientists consulted one of Europe’s most advanced supercomputers.

The report claims 10 per cent of all plants and animals on Earth will disappear by 2050, with that number rising to 27 per cent by 2100.
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Message 2111800 - Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 12:42:06 UTC

With all the furore raised over Qatar 22, wonder what will the furore be in 2026?
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Message 2111843 - Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 19:11:04 UTC
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And yet the denial of the costs and pollution and get-rich-quick schemes continues unabated?...

See:


Why Coal Companies Love Bankruptcy
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US coal companies are required by law to clean up their old mines, but a common practice of transferring those mines to smaller operators has left many polluted sites unreclaimed...

Why The U.S. Has Millions Of Leaking Oil And Gas Wells
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... It’s going to cost billions to clean them up, but for the first time there’s major federal funding devoted to doing just that.

How Fracking Became America's Money Pit
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... What’s worse, the startup mentality of the U.S. fracking industry promised investors mythical growth and nonexistent returns. In the end, it burned a $340 billion hole...

EPA cracks down on fracking
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The Costs of Fracking Add Up

Fracking damages the environment, threatens public health, and affects communities in ways that can impose a multitude of costs...

History of the Fracking in the United States
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... Question: Would you mind if fracking was done near your home?


Enjoy?...

Only in the USA??

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Message 2112411 - Posted: 2 Jan 2023, 1:23:03 UTC
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Make of this as you will.

North America's grasslands are suffering from a billion-dollar plague, trees.

We'd love a lot more trees across our dust bowls here.
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Message 2112537 - Posted: 4 Jan 2023, 18:01:53 UTC

So you think we can go green by going down the clean energy and electric vehicles path, well maybe you might have a different view if you watch this, Mineral exploration, Future Metal Needs, and Opposition to Mining in Europe
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Message 2112599 - Posted: 6 Jan 2023, 1:57:50 UTC
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Yet more mining?...


Whitehaven {NEW} coal mine: Friends of the Earth to launch legal fight
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Friends of the Earth is to take legal action against the government over its decision to approve the UK's first major coal mine in more than 40 years...

... lawyer at Friends of the Earth, said: "With the world facing a climate emergency, we shouldn't have to take this challenge to court.

"Any sensible government should be choosing to leave coal in the ground and accelerating the transition to a safe, clean and sustainable future."...



Meanwhile...

We have the ever more inconvenient reality, steadily worsening to ever greater extremes, of such as:

European weather: Winter heat records smashed all over continent
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Temperatures for January have reached an all-time high in a number of nations across Europe...

... more than 10C [16F] above average.

The mild European weather comes as North America faces more severe storms, days after a deadly winter cold snap left more than 60 dead...

... In Spain, New Year's Day temperatures in Bilbao were equivalent to the average in July, and parts of Catalonia including Barcelona are subject to restrictions on water use...

... It's not all warm in Europe, though - colder temperatures and snow are forecast in parts of Scandinavia, and Moscow is expected to drop to -20C by the weekend...

... Heatwaves have become more frequent, more intense, and last longer because of human-induced climate change...

... The world has already warmed by about 1.1C since the industrial era began and temperatures will keep rising unless governments around the world make [immediate] steep cuts to emissions.

Evacuations ordered in California as massive storm slams into coast
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Heavy rain and powerful winds are lashing coastal areas of northern California and forecasters have warned of the risk of flooding and landslides. More severe weather is expected in the coming hours as a result of a powerful storm system known as a bomb cyclone...

... "Floods are inevitable," San Francisco Mayor London Breed said on Wednesday...



The more we pollute, the more extreme the weather gets... Inconvenient?

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Message 2112661 - Posted: 6 Jan 2023, 23:14:42 UTC

How can this be...?


Shell to pay UK tax for first time in five years
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... Oil and gas prices began to rise after the end of Covid lockdowns but surged after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, resulting in bumper profits for energy companies including the likes of Shell and BP in 2022...


That is... No tax paid for four out of five years...

What crazy huge subsidy is this?...

Can those fossils subsidies instead go to immediately boost clean sustainable renewable energy?...


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