Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: Continued DENIAL (#6)

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Message 2103916 - Posted: 27 Jul 2022, 15:15:41 UTC - in response to Message 2103910.  

This story is both old and new....
Protests by Dutch farmers have been rumbling on for three or four years. The farmers gripe is about them facing a significant reduction in the use of nitrogen fertilisers they can use and in the number of livestock they are allowed to keep. Traditionally there have used vast amounts of animal manure and artificial fertilisers to provide the nitrogen required to grow the crops needed to feed their vast livestock herds as well as to produce crops for direct human consumption. The trouble is a lot of that nitrogen ends up in the waterways, where it encourages massive grow in the aquatic plants that live in those waterways, and a proportion of those plants detach from where they are growing quite happily. These detached plants then clog up the various pumps and drains that keep the approximately 50% of the country that is at or below sea level habitable/farmable.
Much of the nation's export is in the form of farm produce, predominately dairy & dairy related. So if one cuts one's livestock size you reduce the amount of feedstuffs needed, but you also reduce your income, you make it easier to maintain the water levels and thus the land area available for forming, but you need less of that......
Not an easy problem to solve, and certainly not in the time that the government set out back in about 2018......
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Message 2103968 - Posted: 28 Jul 2022, 2:24:35 UTC

"Dont't look up?"...


Al Gore: This Is the Moment to Take On the Climate Crisis


THAT is the closest thing I've ever seen for a TED talk risking stirring up a riot!


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Message 2103979 - Posted: 28 Jul 2022, 6:33:57 UTC

Money talks, climate change sucks
New figures reported this year show that, for the first time ever, the Premier League will receive more revenue from international broadcasters than it will from domestic channels in its UK home market. Asia alone is expected to account for $1.4bn between next season and 2025.

Until the Premier League kicked off, Yanks belittled soccer much preferring their version of football.
Premier league kicks off & WOW, they now love soccer (only because they realised just how much Big Bucks are involved).
It's worth reading the report.

I can recall pre-Premier League days. Would often go watch 2/3 pre-season friendlies. Most of the time doing that, I had to leave London for just one of those games.
At that time, there were 11 London clubs in the old First Division.
Practically all the 1st Div teams played at least 1 pre-season friendly with a team from a lower div, thereby helping those clubs financially, unlike now.
How times change...
...and not always for the better.
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Message 2103982 - Posted: 28 Jul 2022, 7:19:54 UTC

I wonder what the deniers will make of this.

Armadillos in Chicago? Southern Animal Migrating North.

Armadillos are a common sight across the southern United States thanks in part to the warmer weather that attracts them, but recently, these creatures have started making a home for themselves in the Midwest - and during the colder parts of the year, too.

Historically, nine-banded armadillos have thrived in the Southwest, with Texas hosting the largest population in the country, according to 101 Highland Lakes. But thousands of miles farther north, the armadillo is being spotted more frequently.

Armadillos have been traveling up rivers and streams to the Midwest in recent years, and thousands of them are being spotted year-round as far north as Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois....
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Message 2104005 - Posted: 28 Jul 2022, 13:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 2103968.  
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"Dont't look up?"...

Al Gore: This Is the Moment to Take On the Climate Crisis

THAT is the closest thing I've ever seen for a TED talk risking stirring up a riot!

Meanwhile, a USA Democrat dared to Look Up?

Senator Joe Manchin suddenly backs Biden climate and tax bill
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A US Democratic senator who has proved a political thorn in the White House's side has stunned Washington by announcing sudden support for President Joe Biden's top agenda item.

Joe Manchin says he now backs a bill to raise corporate taxes, fight climate change and lower medicine costs...

... It is not clear what prompted the senator's dramatic reversal to support the new bill. He is something of a political anomaly, representing a conservative state that voted overwhelmingly for former President Donald Trump...

... He had previously expressed concern that policies boosting the development of clean energy without also increasing fossil fuel production could hurt the US by making it more dependent on foreign imports.

Oil and gas companies employ tens of thousands of people in West Virginia...


Why is our World Climate a victim of petty politics against reality?...


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Message 2104132 - Posted: 30 Jul 2022, 12:40:07 UTC
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Sadly:

Don't Look Up!

UK heatwave: Weather forecasters report unprecedented trolling
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Weather forecasters faced unprecedented levels of [abusive] trolling during this month's extreme heat in the UK, according to leading figures in the industry.

The BBC's team received hundreds of abusive tweets or emails questioning their reports and telling them to "get a grip", as temperatures hit 40C.

BBC meteorologist Matt Taylor said he had never experienced anything like it in nearly 25 years working in weather...

... The Met Office estimated the heatwave had been made 10 times more likely because of climate change.

The BBC's Matt Taylor said: "It's a more abusive tone than I've ever received. I switched off a bit from it all as it became too depressing to read some of the responses."...

... "I've noticed abuse getting nastier and more personal, and it's pretty demoralising when you're trying to do your job."

Matt Taylor said covering the heatwave was "really emotional" and it felt "like a real turning point in public attitude and realisation to what has happened to our climate."

He added: "The weather is very emotive. It gets people so worked up. What's good for some is bad for others and vice versa.

"Our climate has changed, so our reporting and response also has to change. All we're trying to do is bring people the facts."

BBC Weather said: "It is completely unacceptable for any member of staff to receive abuse on social media simply for doing their job."



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Message 2104173 - Posted: 30 Jul 2022, 23:49:48 UTC

While some still deny climate change many have to live through it and trying to survive, but sadly some don't.

Kentucky flooding death toll rises as rescue crews struggle to reach hard-hit areas.
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Message 2104201 - Posted: 31 Jul 2022, 12:03:29 UTC

Another hockey stick:





Yet I'm sure the "Don't Look Up!" Deniers will still lose themselves in their Denial.


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Message 2104222 - Posted: 31 Jul 2022, 18:09:26 UTC - in response to Message 2104219.  

Humans Have Been Keeping TEMPERATURE Records for How Long?

Good question....
In the UK official records go back to 1884, but individuals were recording data for at least another couple of hundred years.

Here in the UK the official declaration of a weather record contains a statement along the line "since records began", and possibly give the date of the first official recording of that type of data.
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Message 2104227 - Posted: 31 Jul 2022, 20:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 2104222.  

Humans Have Been Keeping TEMPERATURE Records for How Long?

Good question....
In the UK official records go back to 1884, but individuals were recording data for at least another couple of hundred years.

Here in the UK the official declaration of a weather record contains a statement along the line "since records began", and possibly give the date of the first official recording of that type of data.

One set of records I know about are from Townley Hall, Burnley.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259213018_Richard_Towneley_and_300_Years_of_Regular_Rainfall_Measurement
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Message 2104231 - Posted: 31 Jul 2022, 21:14:24 UTC
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Message 2104249 - Posted: 31 Jul 2022, 23:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 2104247.  

Straw man, yep
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Message 2104686 - Posted: 8 Aug 2022, 23:23:04 UTC

An interesting question.

A volcano is erupting again in Iceland. Is climate change causing more eruptions?

Though I guess with the weight of millions of tonnes of snow and ice no longer pressing downward then something could be allowed to escape upwards.
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