Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: Continued DENIAL (#6)

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Message 2102888 - Posted: 9 Jul 2022, 23:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 2102886.  

FAKE Manufactured EVIDENCE


Which specific evidence is fake?
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Message 2102946 - Posted: 11 Jul 2022, 14:43:14 UTC
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Business as usual:


Maine energy: How one hydropower project sparked a $100m 'hoohah'
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... New England Clean Energy Connect (NECEC) was supposed to be an industry-leading project, transporting 1,200 megawatts of Canadian hydropower to Massachusetts across 145 miles (233 km) of transmission line, and eliminating over three million metric tonnes of carbon emissions every year.

The $1bn (£840m) project, funded by utility company Hydro-Quebec and Central Maine Power (CMP) ... received final approvals... Construction began in January 2021.

Now, the hydropower project could be dead in the water...

... it didn't help that Hydro-Quebec had partnered with CMP, which has had a number of public relations gaffes in the state, including allegations of overbilling and major outages. Market research firm JD Power has ranked the company dead last out of 88 utilities in the US for customer satisfaction. "They have a lousy reputation," Mr Saviello said. "Do you want somebody like that running a big project like that?"...

... People on both sides of the debate lobbied aggressively to make their case. By the time the issue came to voters, it was the most expensive ballot question in the state's history.

In total, the referendum battle cost over $100m, according to the Maine Ethics Commission, which tracks political spending. Those in favour of the project raised about $82m, mostly coming from Avangrid, Hydro-Quebec and CMP.

Some of the biggest donors to the opposition came from fossil-fuel companies. Energy firm NextEra gave over $20m, most of which was spent on television advertising. While the company supplies green energy elsewhere, in Maine it mostly delivers oil and gas... In total, opponents to the project spent twice as much on television advertising than the supporters.

That proved deadly...

... He blames lobbying from fossil-fuel competitors for the project's demise ... "There's not a corner of the world that isn't being adversely affected by global warming, and it's getting worse at an accelerating rate in many places because we're unable to push back against the fossil fuel interests,"...


Who few people benefit from destroying our planet?...


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Message 2103018 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 12:51:29 UTC

Climate change. What climate change?
So, it's our first look at Erik ten Hag's Manchester United today.
It's a pretty familiar looking first line up for the Red Devils in Bangkok, but the style of play is going to be very interesting to see. Many of the players haven't had too long to adapt to the former Ajax manager's new demands, so it remains to be seen how quickly they can implement his plan...
Kick off 14:00 BST today.
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Message 2103029 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 16:01:12 UTC
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How much fossil fuels fueled plastic in the Greenwash?...


The Big Plastic Count: Survey shows 'recycling doesn't work'
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... "jaw-dropping" findings...

... estimate that the UK throws out nearly 100 billion pieces of plastic a year...

... the results prove that recycling alone is not a solution for reducing how much plastic ends up as waste...

... "Pretending we can sort this with recycling is just industry green-wash. We're creating a hundred billion bits of waste plastic a year, and recycling is hardly making a dent."...

... just 12% of our plastic waste ends up being recycled in the UK.

"Recycling doesn't work, we all know it," Everyday Plastic founder Daniel Webb told BBC News, "If we think things are being recycled we can carry on the way we are. We need to address things further up the chain. By reducing the amount we produce it will reduce the amount that is thrown away." ...



Indeed jaw dropping...

... And bad all round.


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Message 2103039 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 17:02:12 UTC - in response to Message 2103029.  

I have to ask, why is it "... "jaw-dropping" findings..."?

If a member of the general public has a piece of plastic in hand and has to make the decision "which bin do I throw this in" will they get it right?

Probably not, has to be the answer, even if it has got the 'triangle with number' embossed into it.
Only numbers 1,2 & 5 are recyclable in most councils recycling centers unless they have informed you separately.

Unless I specific knowledge that this piece of plastic is recyclable it goes in the general rubbish bin, because in many cases if the recycling is polluted with 'non-recycleable plastics' then it is a wasted effort.
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Message 2103043 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 18:00:54 UTC

While this may only be a drop in the vast ocean of climate change it is one small step:
BoHoo starts charging for online returns
One scary line about half way down (a link to another bit of "news") is a young lady proudly proclaiming she will order five bits of clothing with the intent of only keeping one of them. This sort of attitude has led to a large pile of worn-once clothes somewhere, and costs the retailers a large pile of money both in the loss of revenue from that pile but also from the costs associated with having to sort and "dispose" of said pile.
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Message 2103046 - Posted: 12 Jul 2022, 20:18:34 UTC

Who few people benefit from destroying our planet?...


Prove Venus and Mars were FULL of LIFE at One Time and Then DESTROYED by This 'LIFE'- I 'Might' Give Credence to Any
'DESTROYING OUR PLANET'.

More Likely PLANET WILL DESTROY LIFE and NOT Because of HuWoMan MADE Climate Change.

As I've Stated Before - ALL Humans Alive Now Can Be LOG STACKED in Grand Canyon and NO One would Know
'cept from Above or Standing where one can see in.

I came from Outside a Short while ago after working Outside for 2 Hours and Was Same as any Time in My Past as
Far Back as I can Remember My Environ - which is Around 8 Years Old.

The More We Do to Protect Our Environment da Better.

The More We Do To Protect and Improve Many Things da Better.

The More We Do to STOP DESTROYING Each Other...........Who Knows?

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Message 2103063 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 1:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 2103043.  

Ah the joys of online shopping. But you don't have brick and mortar rent or a huge labor bill ...
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Message 2103235 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 17:14:45 UTC
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The fiendish no-morals Marketing of:


'The Fossil Fuel Empire Strikes Back' - with Kevin Albin and Prof Simon
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... explores the current public relations battle and what could instead...

... Kevin Albin, author, naturalist and former police inspector, is a trained Climate Reality Project Leader. He points out, that rather than climate denier, fossil fuel companies could be “Heroes”...



All very clever for the sake of greedy profits without any cares for the consequences...

There should be laws against that?...


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Message 2103238 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 19:14:08 UTC

.....greedy profits.....


AnyOne Making PROFITs from 'Climate Change' Activism?

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Message 2103267 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 11:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 2103238.  
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.....greedy profits.....


AnyOne Making PROFITs from 'Climate Change' Activism?

SUPERBucks

Yes. In very big ways.

So much so for the leap in clean technology that, for just one example, the dirty polluting old fossils industry in Australia have been playing dirty tricks and sabotage-the-clean-competition to keep burning our planet.

Meanwhile, just one battery and a few wind turbines have transformed the power grid for Southern Australia... For just one example.


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Message 2103293 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 21:07:39 UTC

More on what the deniers keep on wanting to deny is really happening.

The Western Drought Is Getting Weird.

And then there's the many places elsewhere around the world where the sea is invading once fertile river systems like this 1.

Po Valley farmers living through Italy's worst drought for 70 years.
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Message 2103689 - Posted: 23 Jul 2022, 19:21:28 UTC

I've Listened to So Many Scientists Speak of Climate History and Their

Heads are NOT Exploding.

Bjorn Lomborg Spakes GOoD Real GOoD

https://www.lomborg.com/

I Go Out Every day for HOURs and Sweat like a mo fo.

Feels SO GOoD when BREEZE Caresses Me and I COOL.

NO WORRIES Maties.

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Message 2103696 - Posted: 23 Jul 2022, 19:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 2103689.  

Bjørn Lomborg - A real scientist? - no some jumped up political scientist who is very, very good at pulling wool over peoples eyes by blinding them with pseudo science.

Lomborg was an undergraduate at the University of Georgia, earned an M.A. degree in political science at the University of Aarhus in
1991, and a PhD degree in political science at the University of Copenhagen in 1994.

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Message 2103707 - Posted: 23 Jul 2022, 20:54:24 UTC

What He Says Has Reason and POWER.

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Message 2103709 - Posted: 23 Jul 2022, 20:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 2103707.  
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What He Says Has Reason and POWER.

Lomborg: Yep, the power of propaganda and Marketing-speak.

Unfortunately, some no-morals people profit from promoting Denial...


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Message 2103743 - Posted: 24 Jul 2022, 16:13:59 UTC

Incredible.

Don't look up?!!...


{News} Anchor lashes out at meteorologist over heat wave reporting



Really?... Not the story wished for?...

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Message 2103744 - Posted: 24 Jul 2022, 16:16:28 UTC

On a very personal and practical note:


Climate change: How to talk to a denier



Non-technical patience is needed... But do we have the time and patience and forbearance?

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Message 2103767 - Posted: 24 Jul 2022, 19:23:02 UTC

Yep. BJORN is a GO TO BRAINIAC

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