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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36814 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
You'll find plenty of them here, https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/. ;-) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
I've been in Middle of Atlantic Ocean and Middle of Pacific Ocean. When Water is Around One 360 degrees to Horizon, it Sho Looks Flat. I've Also Flown Across Both. Somehow Flatness Disappears. Barely. Why is dat? Oh Yeah. I Know. Thin Air is Makin' Me See Thangs. No Humans on Mars. Maybe Underneath. Again. Human Climate Change DENIED. Yope May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Maybe you can become an associate member of the flat earth society. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A True Believer of the Flat Earth Belief is mentioned in this interview as part of some very interesting observations: How to Talk to a Science Denier - with Lee McIntyre That interview gives some good insight with some interesting examples. All in a game of people? My take on that is that some people are desperate to just believe in whatever it is they believe that the people around them believe in. All regardless of reality and regardless of any facts. Or more simply: People just follow a desperate need to be in with "The Group"? No thinking needed? The examples (amongst others) given in that interview of a devout Flat-Earther and separately, that of a highly political Jim Bridenstine, are two very good examples. Quite a different angle to that of cold reason and logic. Hence, is this more of a game of understanding? (Understanding both emotionally as well as physically/theoretically?) And then also we have the real-world dirty extreme greed at all costs pollution of the fossil fuels industry... All on our only one planet, Martin ps: I was dismayed and scathing of Trump making such a political move in appointing Bridenstine to head up NASA. Since then, I've been very impressed by how Bridenstine turned out to be a very good and beneficial choice for the entire world... See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22535 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Some years ago I met a rabid flat-earther who hit me with a twenty minute lecture on why the earth was flat, and everyone who said it wasn't was totally wrong. After this rant I just said "Oh", and watched as he stomped off to the nearest underground station (Bakers Street) - we had been stood outside the London Planetarium...... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And then we have the fall of Newton's Apple... How could that work on a supposed flat earth?... ;-) All a good giggle. ... And a weird insight into how some people cannot think for themselves... All on our only one planet! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Deny this? And here is a reminder for how we have the smoking gun that tells us, point blank, that we are doing the burning: Oilprice.com (2021): Carbon Isotopes Prove Humans Have Caused Global Warming wrote: ... Unlike people, isotopes do not lie. RealClimate 2004: How do we know that recent CO2 increases are due to human activities? wrote: ... One way that we know that human activities are responsible for the increased CO2 is simply by looking at historical records of human activities. Since the industrial revolution, we have been burning fossil fuels and clearing and burning forested land ... [it is that] we produce CO2 faster than the ocean and biosphere can absorb it that explains the observed increase. SkepticalScience 2020: What is causing the increase in atmospheric CO2? wrote: ... We also know that burning fossil fuels has led to the recent increases in CO2 levels because of observed decreases in atmospheric oxygen levels. Burning carbon requires oxygen, so when we burn an atom of carbon, the required oxygen becomes part of the CO2 molecule. If the CO2 increase is caused by burning carbon (fossil fuels), we would expect atmospheric O2 levels to decrease at the same rate... And for the cold hard raw data, see: US Dept of Energy CDIAC: Modern Records of Carbon and Oxygen Isotopes in Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Carbon-13 in Methane wrote: ... Trends All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Noting the reducing levels of OXYGEN in our atmosphere is an interestingly stark example that doesn't seem to get much air-time in the news. OK, so we will pollute ourselves to hell before asphyxiating, but it all still adds up to the same story of the extreme greed of the dirty fossil fuels industry polluting us all to hell. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Humanity Increases This; Humanity Increases That. So What? Climate Is NOT Being Changed by Humans DENIED Yope May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3806 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Who could possibly refute such a data-rich and comprehensive analysis, Someone Actually Going Out in Summer; Winter - Sweats in Heat; Shivers in Cold; Gets Soaked in a Rainstorm; Shovels Snow for Hours & Hours; Wind Blows Leaves as I Sweep/Rake; Soaks Thirsty Flora when dry; Gets Eaten Alive by Bloodsuckers after RainStorm; Pays for Heat/AC; Actually Sees; Feels; Breathes Full Beauty of Outdoors during Bright Sunny Day or Dark Raging Storm. Someone Without Agenda of Control. Or Bias for Enrichment. And No Herd Mentality. In Eight Different Decades That's Who. Oh Yeah. Someone Respecting Pigs providing and Losing their Lives for Our Needs; Fish being Dragged Out of their Lives to be Ground; Breaded; Heated for Me. Yope May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Bacon could help. Yep |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3806 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
That was very prosaic, but again it has absolutely nothing to do with being correct or having any actual evidence whatsoever. Lots of people said and wrote plenty of prosaic things for thousands of years "proving" that the earth was the center of the universe, or that large objects fell faster than small ones, or that lead could be transformed into gold chemically. And all their prosaic words were worthless once the first person decided to actually collect some actual evidence one way or the other. We're in the same situation here. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Evidence and Facts are NOT Evidence and Facts Anymore. No Mater dA Letters After Name; or Before; Prizes Won; Reputation Excellence or Anything Once Having Rock Solid Cred. It is ALL About CONTROL; POWER; MONEY and How Many Can Be Herded Along; 'specially MSM and Their ZOMBIE Believers. This Situation has Always Existed. In Small Ways and Enclaves. NOW It has INFECTED Every Hall of Power; Academia; Industry; Local Business; Down to the People Livin' on Streets. I DO NOT BELIEVE - Sorry Mulder - The Spoken Word; Written Word; Exposed by Anyone with Agenda and Obvious Bias. And When I Can't Immediately Suss Them Out - I'll Not Believe. And There May never be an Until............. Correctness and Evidence. In This World? Wat a JOkE. Prosaic? Actual Evidence? One Brainiac Says This. Another Counters with That. Both with Rock Solid Proof. I'm Glad to be an Idiot and Believe wat I Believe. And Care Less 'bout Back and Forth 'Proving'. I'll Stick with My Sense. Common or Otherwise. Venus and Mars seem to have been Destroyed by 'Climate Change'. When they Prove they had Humans There - I'll Believe Asteroids were the Culprits - Not Humans. C'mon Man! I Don't BELIEVE a Thang I Make Up and I Make Up Everythang I Believe. Yope - May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3806 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Evidence and Facts are NOT Evidence and Facts Anymore. No Mater dA Letters After Name; or Before; Prizes Won; Reputation Excellence or Anything Once Having Rock Solid Cred. This is me agreeing with you. Of course this is probably not the "MSM" you had in mind, but it will do. (That was "News"Max's White House correspondent, by the way. Probably not anymore as got kicked off Twitter for spreading, well, stuff without evidence and facts.) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Deny this Biblical deluge?... Egypt: Scorpions kill three and injure hundreds in Aswan wrote: Scorpions in Egypt have stung three people to death in the southern city of Aswan after heavy storms brought them into the streets and homes. First time I've seen anything like that on the news for some 3000 years!! Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21231 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The most greedy and dirty of all politics here on our planet? Climate change: Why Australia refuses to give up coal wrote: In a world racing to reduce pollution, Australia is a stark outlier. What dirty corrupt greedy madness is this?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31012 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What dirty corrupt greedy madness is this?...Steady state universe conservatism. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36814 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
What dirty corrupt greedy madness is this?...It comes from a government that relies on what comes out of the ground to try and balance their books and coal plays a big part of that. Before COVID hit that same government bought many boxes full of thousands of coffee cups with "Back In Black" printed on them, but they never got their books back in the black so all those cups are gathering dust now (they were asking $25ea for cup that cost them less than $5ea and some reports suggest that they bought 30K of them, though the party is staying tight lipped on the real number). Hopefully this incompetent government will be gone in the upcoming elections this time (or they'll get themselves another new leader for them, nah, they've done that 3 times now and I doubt that that trick will work for a 4th time). And the funniest part about it all is that they're now trying to use some of the opposition's policies on climate change that they blasted left, right & center during the last elections. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
I've Worked at Coal Plants and Always Breathed Fine. Wat is Nasty is an UNTuned Car goin' by with Open Windows and Foul Cig Smoke Bellowing Out. A Double Whammy of Sickening Car Exhaust and Lung Exhaust. Only Dirty Foul Air at Coal Plant was from Car Exhaust and Human Lung Exhaust. Coal Plants are SAWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET. Looking Thru Coal Burning Boiler Sight-Glass and All I've Ever Seen is a Beautifully Hot Sun Colored Flame. And As I was Lookin', Breathing Fine, Real Fine. Yoe May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
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