Interesting, not polluting is a radical left wing thing, does the right wing endorse pollution?

Oh, nice try.
I already stated a few posts ago that I have no issue with pursuing green energy policies.
The current discussion is about the way ... Biden is going about things.
He's trying to put the cart before the horse.

Or are the old fossil fuels oligarchs dragging their dirty heels for yet more greedy profit and everyone else and the world be damned?


A huge political advantage with 'going green' is that the reliance on supplies from a few super-rich petrochemical states is removed.

Resulting in: Cleanly greater freedoms all round!

Also, hopefully, the political strife over restricted supplies will be removed to also remove some of the conflicts across the world.


Stay safe folks!
Martin

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The reason your gas prices have risen is because OPEC has cut production and U.S. stocks are low.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Prices-Soar-Amid-Rumors-Of-New-Commodities-Supercycle.html

Oil was set for a second straight weekly gain, as OPEC+ continued to slash output and the group expects a stronger second half of the year, which to Bloomberg indicates "that global inventories will face sharp declines unless the cartel boosts supply." Indeed, Iraq said OPEC+ is unlikely to change its output policy at a March meeting. Meanwhile, in the U.S., crude stockpiles are at the lowest in nearly a year.

Thank you for making my point!
That absolutely underscores what a stupid move is was for Biden to quash the XL pipeline, which would bring additional supplies of Canadian crude to the US.
And it would be almost as stupid to step on the Dakota Access project as well.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/anthony-swift/department-energy-data-shows-keystone-xl-export-pipeline

Hmmm, that report puts a very new light on the XL Pipeline's function.
A pipeline designed to transport foreign oil to a port area for export.
The real "loosers" in this saga are not the People of the USA (with the exception of those involved in the operation of the pipeline in the USA and harbour), but the Canadian government who lose a good few billions of US dollars income.
But do they actually loose? Not being able to put costs on the clean-up process of both the oil sands and land left behind after excavation which are going to be local saving. Further there is quite an energy saving because, as far as I'm aware, the oil that was to be exported via the USA is more like road tar than "nice thin" Brent crude.
And I don't see the Canadians crying in their beer/coffee about this loss of income.

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Thank you for the additional information concerning the XL pipeline.
I admit I was a bit mislead as to it's impact on the US.

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Freed from Trump, we have:


Anthony Fauci wins Israel's Dan David $1m prize for 'defending science'
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The US top infectious diseases expert, Anthony Fauci, has been awarded a prestigious $1m (£717,000) Israeli prize for his commitment to science.

Dr Fauci, who was often at odds with former President Trump over how to handle the pandemic, was given the Dan David Prize for "defending science".

He was also praised for advocating for Covid vaccines, and for his leadership on HIV research and Aids relief.

Dr Fauci, 80, has advised seven US presidents...

Here's hoping the new freedoms now allow the good Dr to help more quickly!


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While republican states run around trying to make it even harder for democrats to win through unfair tactics Every House Democrat signs up to massive voting rights bill that will make things fairer all round while bringing it more inline with proper democracies around the world.

Now I am really worried. Joe has promised that the vaccines are 100% safe. NOTHING is 100% safe. If, by this time next year, there have been no major side effects from taking the vaccines I may decide to get vaccinated. Meanwhile I will just stay home 90% of the time like I have done for the last 10 years. Not one outbreak of the flu in my house in over 10 years.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Now I am really worried. Joe has promised that the vaccines are 100% safe. NOTHING is 100% safe. If, by this time next year, there have been no major side effects from taking the vaccines I may decide to get vaccinated. Meanwhile I will just stay home 90% of the time like I have done for the last 10 years. Not one outbreak of the flu in my house in over 10 years.

Your choice, and I respect that, but IMHO it is the wrong one.

In the UK all reports have to be reported on a Yellow Card, The Yellow Card report, up to the14th Feb 2021 can be found at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting#yellow-card-reports, at that time 15 million does had been administered and

As of 14 February 2021, for the UK

26,823 Yellow Cards have been reported for the Pfizer/BioNTech
31,427 have been reported for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine
177 have been reported where the brand of the vaccine was not specified

The vast majority of these are for minor symptoms, which if they listened or read the leaflets, they would have known could occur.
there have been a small number of;

Events with a fatal outcome
The MHRA has received 197 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 205 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.

And so far, as of yesterday over 220 million doses have been administered. I am sure if there was a serious problem anywhere it would have been all over the media already.

Now I am really worried. Joe has promised that the vaccines are 100% safe. NOTHING is 100% safe. If, by this time next year, there have been no major side effects from taking the vaccines I may decide to get vaccinated. Meanwhile I will just stay home 90% of the time like I have done for the last 10 years. Not one outbreak of the flu in my house in over 10 years.

If you're basing that opinion on a certain person saying that that is a Democrat Bob then it's up to you to stay vulnerable to this hideous virus if you wish, but don't blame Joe or any other sensible people for saying that you're being silly (maybe even childish or .....). :-(

A couple of European countries have reported deaths after the jabs, but they were only people that were already on their last legs in nursing homes and it was more likely that only natural causes that finished them.

Personally if someone wants to avoid the jab/s then I'll take up their place quick smart. ;-)

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90556

Overall, 21 cases of anaphylaxis following COVID vaccination were reported out of about 1.9 million doses given as of Dec. 23, according to an early Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report release. That amounts to 11.1 cases per million

99.99889% So he is off by 0.00111%. That is a pretty close number when something is coming out of a politician's mouth.

Isn't the general consensus for margin of errors +/- 2%?

In my hopefully educated opinion, and totally regardless of whatever politics:

Go for vaccination.

From following some of the recent USA news, the greatest risk is in physically getting there or of being hit by falling aircraft engine parts!


For myself, I'm in for my vaccination at the earliest opportunity.

Good luck,
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Bob,
If you can get to it, then Israel’s ahead-of-the-world vaccine rollout offers hope for countries lagging behind in the Washington Post, might answer some of the concerns you have about Covid-19 vaccinations.

I'm referring to ANY politician. I didn't like Trump and didn't vote for him the first time around. I am also in that group of people, over 70, that are at greater risk to developing a reaction to the vaccine. The development time has been too short and IMHO too many corners were cut to get it out. I think my course of action is safest for me. If I had to go out and make a living and be in contact with the general population I might have a different opinion.

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Just the facts:


Covid vaccine: How many people in the UK have been vaccinated so far?
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More than 20 million people in the UK have received at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine - part of the biggest inoculation programme the country has ever launched...

Edit: Note that the UK started with the oldest (most vulnerable) people first. We're now inoculating a wider group of people for those next most vulnerable.


Is the Covid vaccine safe?
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How do we know a vaccine is safe?...

Vaccine rumours debunked...
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We've looked into some of the most widely shared false vaccine claims - everything from alleged plots ... to the supposed re-engineering...

Covid-19: What’s the harm of ‘funny’ anti-vaccine memes?
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Memes, often in the form of humorous images and videos, are a major part of how people communicate on the internet, but they can also be used to spread disinformation...

Choose good healthy science over social media silliness?

Obvious choice really!


Go safe folks! (Go vaccinated!)
Martin

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Choose good healthy science over social media silliness?

The microchip runs Windows 10. Wait till it BSOD's.

I'm referring to ANY politician. I didn't like Trump and didn't vote for him the first time around. I am also in that group of people, over 70, that are at greater risk to developing a reaction to the vaccine. The development time has been too short and IMHO too many corners were cut to get it out. I think my course of action is safest for me. If I had to go out and make a living and be in contact with the general population I might have a different opinion.

If you had read 2067365

The real Covid-19 news.
I've just had my first vaccination.

and knew the UK policies on vaccinations. You could easily work out that I am in the 70 - 75 age bracket.

Bob, on Monday here down under last week an 88-year-old man and 94-year-old woman in a Brisbane nursing home were accidentally given overdoses of the Pfizer vaccine (reports vary between 4-5 times the recommended dosage) and both were immediately taken to hospital for observation. Neither showed any adverse reactions to the overdose and the woman has since been returned to the home while the man is still there as he was due to have surgery there this week, though that has now been put off until next week, but he has been pictured walking quite well around the hospital over the last few days. So I certainly can't see any problems for either of us based on that alone let alone let alone the millions of elderly people around the world that have already had it. Also none of the 2 vaccines so far approved here (Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca) were fast tracked for use so they went through our usual full approval process (the Novavax jab is just finishing stage 3 trails here with the results of that due later this month).

However the contracted doctor who administered those doses has been stood down and faces further investigations, but thankfully for an observant nurse his mistakes were picked up quickly before he could overdose anyone else.

Though I must say that your post on this would've been better off being in the "Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7" thread instead of this particular thread where the wrong assumptions could be mistakenly made. ;-)

... Though I must say that your post on this would've been better off being in the "Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7" thread instead of this particular thread where the wrong assumptions could be mistakenly made. ;-)

Good note thanks.

Which is a good reminder that medicine and science should NEVER get politicised.

However... In one political arena, everything seems to be 'politics' against all morals and against all reason.

Hopefully Biden can quietly pull the USA away from such unhealthy ways!


Stay safe folks!
Martin

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