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![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 16007 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
There are reports that the Sinovac vaccine, that is most common in use in Chile, is only just over 50% effective.And it is selective out-of-context quoting like that that fuels the anti-vax hysteria... Adding the context from that article, we have for completeness: ... Data on the efficacy of the CoronaVac vaccine is varied. Brazilian trials suggested an efficacy rate of around 50.4% but results from late-stage trials in Indonesia and Turkey suggested a much higher rate - between 65% and 83%. So, to summarize the main points:
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To add to the highly notable and influential who have been vaccinated, we at long last have His Holiness himself: Covid: Dalai Lama urges others to get vaccinated as he receives first {dose} wrote: Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama has received his first dose of the coronavirus vaccine while urging others eligible to "take this injection". All very good! (But why do the press have to cause alarm by suggesting in the title that His Holiness had been "shot"?) Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24446 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
To me, that looks like a big win regardless of which vaccine someone might get - for the protection seen AFTER THE FULL COURSE OF TWO DOSES.Also those implying that the jabs will stop one catching Covid. They do not, they only "potentially" prevent hospitalisation & fatality, something which even doctors state. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17489 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
The Turkish trial was only carried out on a very small number of people, in the tens, no more. A real-world study of millions of Chileans finds CoronaVac vaccine has found it 67% effective against symptoms after both shots. The Brazil 50.4% numbers come from Sao Paulo in a trial of 13,000 people. For the moment I will go with the low efficiency numbers and say with that few people tested , that wasn't a trial in Turkey. |
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The last reporting period saw the world's total case tally pass 140.7 million while registering over 3,011,550 deaths. :-( The only change at the top end of the death list was Bulgaria replacing Iran in 31st so let's see what's changed on the case list. Thailand jumped over Malawi and Zimbabwe into 11th place, both Kyrgyzstan and Zambia passed China, but Cuba flew over the lot to claim 92nd, while North Macedonia replaced Myanmar in 81st, Guatemala slipped past Armenia into 69th as Lithuania displaced Slovenia from 65th, Paraguay leapt over Denmark and Ireland to take over 61st (I thought that they may have taken Moldova as well, but they havn't got their last day's figures in yet), Azerbaijan nudged past Georgia into 51st and rounding out the final changes is Lebanon taking 39th spot from Morocco and Argentina replacing Colombia in 12th. BTW, Sweden didn't get to stop the Philippines from cementing 27th place, but they did become the 28th member of the 900,000+ clubhouse. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24446 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
WMD's? No need, just use WMI's (weapon of mass infiltration). Russia normally has to spend huge amounts of money on computer hacking and disinformation to spread discord and uncertainty in Europe. Now the vaccine appears to be achieving something similar without any effort.Politicians at work Also, the Jab does not stop you getting Covid. Argentinian President Alberto Fernández tested positive for Covid-19 in April after receiving two doses of Sputnik in January and February. That's a reminder that even if the Gamaleya Institute's claimed efficacy rate of 91.6% turns out to be true, a small statistical risk remains among those who've been vaccinated. Meanwhile elsewhere What's wrong Canada? |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17489 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Also, the Jab does not stop you getting Covid. How do we get that message through to the "We must be allowed to ............ crowds" 1. go down the pub 2. go to a restaurant 3. go on a foreign holiday 4. all of the above. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24446 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Have no idea. We don't want to go this route though. Zig Heil "As such, this constitutes one of the most dangerous policy proposals ever to be made in the history of British politics." Yep, very dangerous indeed. |
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It's the weekend, it's sunny, and the crowds have been told they can go out to play: Pub and shop staff: 'Please be nice to us this weekend' wrote: "It's going to be a couple of manic days." Reopening verdict: 'It was 'buzzing, chaotic and crazy' wrote: On Monday morning, many business owners across the country nervously flipped signs from 'closed' to 'open'. Covid: Canada sounds the alarm as cases overtake US wrote: The rate of coronavirus infections in Canada's biggest province has reached an all-time high as hospitals warn they are close to being overwhelmed. Here's hoping that the UK COVID infection rate really is low enough to allow such enthusiastic playtime without the repeat spike as was seen from the Christmas shopping spree. Truly a game of shopping vs deaths? More caution needd for a more cautious opening up?... We'll have to watch the numbers carefully. The real killer still, is the 3 or 4 week delay before any increase in infections is noticed... Good luck for Canada to reverse their deadly infection surge... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Well India didn't hang around to welcome Brazil into the 14 million case clubhouse as they're already in the 15 million clubhouse clearing out the over 4 months of cobwebs and dust build up from it, but it doesn't look like that they'll spend much time in there as their daily case numbers continue to grow towards 300,000. :-O Meanwhile Honduras became the 71st member of the 200,000+ club as Azerbaijan became the 51st to join the 300,000+ club and Sweden is still collapsed in the doorway of the 900,000+ clubhouse, but they should recover soon enough to make it up to the bar eventually. |
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... it's sunny, and the crowds have been told they can go out to play: What is that fabled story about Cassandra? And also Einstein's quote about repeating the same actions yet expecting/hoping for a different outcome? Yet we have developing: Covid-19: How India failed to prevent a deadly second wave wrote: In early March, India's health minister Harsh Vardhan declared the country was "in the endgame" of the Covid-19 pandemic... India coronavirus: Delhi announces lockdown as Covid cases surge wrote: ... a week-long lockdown after a record spike in cases overwhelmed the city's healthcare system... And now we have over here in the UK: Shoppers making 'revenge purchases' flock back to High Street wrote: Shoppers flocked back to the High Street last week to treat themselves after non-essential stores reopened in England and Wales... And as we've repeatedly seen for this worldwide pandemic, the real killer is that the reported increases in infection rates only become apparent three or more weeks after the real world increase in the spreading of infections, with the politics then responding weeks later and deadly woefully too late... More caution needed? More gradual 'opening up' with smaller more cautious steps?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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The world's total case tally has now passed 142.7 million as deaths passed 3,043,200. :-( By the end of the last reporting period the only change at the upper end of the death list was Hungary replacing Chile in 22nd place so let's get onto the case list. P.N.G. has rocketed up to 150th place now (has anyone heard anything about those 1st million doses of that Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine that we redirected there yet? Me either), Mongolia has also been on a charge flying up to 122nd while Madagascar replaced Sudan in 114th, Thailand sprinted past Senegal and Uganda into 109th as Kyrgyzstan claimed 92nd from Ghana, but not before Cuba took 91st from them, Bahrain passed Nigeria and then Uruguay came along to snatch 77th from them both. Ethiopia took 63rd spot from Denmark and now have Ireland within their sights, Paraguay relieved Moldova of 60th as even though Tunisia passed Nepal they remain in 55th because Kazakhstan passed both including Bolivia to take over 53rd, Malaysia dumped Slovakia from 44th while Canada swept past Chile into 22nd, Indonesia deprived Czechia of 18th and Argentina blew Poland out of 11th place. Meanwhile things are doing ok here down under so far with quarantine free travel now happening both ways with our Kiwi cousins across the ditch and there's some more good news. Australia's COVID-19 win to help fuel economic growth this year: Reuters poll. |
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... it's sunny, and the crowds have been told they can go out to play: How many 'Cassandras' are going to be ignored?... Covid: Government scientist warns of summer surge in cases wrote: The UK is likely to see a "summer surge" in Covid cases as lockdown is relaxed, a government scientist says. So the UK politics are that we are going to blunder into another deadly surge/wave of our own making regardless?... Except this time round, we have more than enough experience to know how to avoid any such further deadly 'surges'... Instead, and far more healthy, go for a more gradual 'opening up' with smaller more cautious steps?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Well India has set a new daily case record of 315,728 as they're about to transition from the 15 million clubhouse to the 16 million job while Brazil has entered the 14 million club as Iraq became the 25th member 1 million club, Austria became the 37th to join the 600,000+ club and the U.A.E. was the 41st to enter the 500,000+ clubhouse. |
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Even though this reporting period isn't over as yet the world itself has now set a new daily case record of at least 854,030. :-O |
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Well India has set a new daily case record ... And still developing deadly badly: Covid: India sees world's highest daily cases amid oxygen shortage wrote: India has recorded the highest one-day tally of new Covid-19 cases anywhere in the world - and the country's highest number of deaths over 24 hours. How can politics be pushed so rabidly when so deadly to healthy good sense?! Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Will the politics and the ignorant take heed? Vaccines alone will not stop Covid spreading - here's why wrote: ... scientists say jabs alone will not currently be enough and other measures are still needed. Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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India has yet again set another new daily case record with 332,503 this time as they charged into 16 million clubhouse. :-O |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 20797 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Ouch, mega ouch :-( Edit to add: I caught something on the radio today where a person working in India thought that the figures, bad as they are, are actually below the real situation as so many people in India are not actually registered, so they can't be ill or die because officially they haven't been born. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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The world's total case tally has now passed 146.2 million as deaths pass 3.1 million. :-( At the end of the last reporting period India had set a new daily case record of 345,147 and when Sweden wakes up to get their numbers in could see the world's daily case numbers pass 900,000 for the 1st time. :-O The only change at the top end of the death list was the Netherlands replacing Portugal in 27th place so it's onto the case list. Mongolia flew over Rwanda, Angola and the Maldives to land in 119th place, Madagascar nudged Malawi out of the way to claim 113th while Thailand put in a mighty leap to pass Jamaica, the Ivory Coast, Botswana and Namibia to take over 105th, Cyprus took 103rd from Afghanistan as Cuba knocked Montenegro out of 90th, Uruguay blasted Libya from 76th and Costa Rica replaced Slovenia in 66th spot. Denmark passed Ireland to claim 63rd spot after Ethiopia jumped over Ireland and Moldova to take over 61st, Kuwait shoved the Dominican Republic out of 58th as Tunisia and Nepal both passed Bolivia to claim 54th and 55th respectively, Ecuador took 46th from Panama while the Philippines kicked Belgium from 26th, Iran took 14th from Mexico and Turkey blew the U.K. out of 6th place. Meanwhile here down under we've cut back on the number of Australians returning from India by 30% due to the high numbers of them coming back infected with the virus and creating problems with our quarantine services. So much for our P.M.'s promise on having everyone home by last Xmas, but you can't expect much from a man who continually sits on his hands while towing the right wing line. :-( |
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