Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7

Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 . . . 52 · Next

AuthorMessage
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2066930 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 9:46:08 UTC - in response to Message 2066929.  

Sorry Rob, there s no disputing what you say regarding WWII. However, at that time it was still fresh in the mind of how deadly the 1918 pandemic
was compared to loss of life in WWI.
Australia dealt with it effectively. The only difference between the 2 is air travel.
Australia, IMV, has dealt with this one more effectively than any other country.
Still allowing air travel is a travesty of major proportions.
ID: 2066930 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2066934 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 9:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 2066932.  

Snap, already did that this morning.
As for the vaccines, it has already been suggested (not predicted YET) that it may become a regular annual jab similar to the Flu jab.
Funny how that has not been mentioned since it was 1st brought up (scientists - not on here).
ID: 2066934 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 21010
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 2066946 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 10:41:44 UTC - in response to Message 2066934.  

I recall a radio program some months ago (don't ask me which one - I've been to bed since I heard it) where it was mentioned that it was possible that the jab may need to be an annual event, but it was far too early to say if this was the case or not and it might be a year or more before a decision could be made. That said, I personally wouldn't be too surprised if it became an annual event, just like the seasonal flu jab.
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 2066946 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2066947 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 10:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 2066946.  

Then the question will be - one jab or two?
ID: 2066947 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 21010
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 2066950 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 10:59:56 UTC - in response to Message 2066947.  

"for future debate" - just now there is no real evidence either way for the annual booster. We'll just have to hurry up and wait.
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 2066950 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2066952 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 11:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 2066950.  

I have no problems in getting the jab. Well the thing that bothers me the most is what WHO & the manufacturers are saying - 3 weeks after 1st for the 2nd. Yet the UK government is saying 12 weeks.
ID: 2066952 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 21010
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 2066954 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 11:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 2066952.  

Yeh, that 12 weeks sounds really off to me.
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 2066954 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14505
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 2066955 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 11:19:48 UTC

I'm finding it harder and harder to work out what goes on inside people's minds.

US pharmacist in vaccine tampering guilty plea

Steven Brandenburg, 46, is accused of removing from cold storage 57 vials with 570 doses of the Moderna vaccine in Grafton, Wisconsin, in December. Without refrigeration, the vaccine becomes ineffective.
The pharmacist admitted that he "believed in various 'conspiracy theories'; subscribed to notions of "alternative history"; and was sceptical of vaccines in general and the Moderna vaccine specifically", the [state attorney's office] statement added.
How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?
ID: 2066955 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2066958 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 11:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 2066955.  

How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?
Much the same for the Italian doctor (47) who has been arrested for murdering elderly patients to free up beds.
ID: 2066958 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 29415
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 2066969 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 14:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 2066955.  

I'm finding it harder and harder to work out what goes on inside people's minds.

How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?

Repeat lie often enough and it becomes truth.
ID: 2066969 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 16633
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2066975 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 16:59:19 UTC - in response to Message 2066958.  
Last modified: 27 Jan 2021, 17:01:09 UTC

How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?
Much the same for the Italian doctor (47) who has been arrested for murdering elderly patients to free up beds.

For 'caring' professions and for life critical professions, we really do need psychological profiling to test people's values before entrusting them with the care of others...


From my pseudo-scientific/Socratic encounters with non-mask people to try to get some idea of what it is they are not seeing, some of my encounters (test subjects / victims?!) have shocked me for how they were completely, totally, utterly, unconcerned for anyone else around them, let alone to be concerned for anyone 'older' and more vulnerable than themselves. Note, that goes far beyond just plain simple uneducated ignorance or a convenient disbelief of any virus.

Is our 'modern' online society really breeding so many socially isolated uncaring zombies?


Thankfully, I too can easily minimize my exposure to the rest of the population. Not working in any 'open plan' sweatshop helps!

Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2066975 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 29415
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 2067007 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 21:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 2066975.  

How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?
Much the same for the Italian doctor (47) who has been arrested for murdering elderly patients to free up beds.

For 'caring' professions and for life critical professions, we really do need psychological profiling to test people's values before entrusting them with the care of others...
You mean like why we have a Police thread?
ID: 2067007 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 16633
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2067020 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 21:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 2067007.  

How does somebody like that get through their medical training and get accredited by their professional body?
Much the same for the Italian doctor (47) who has been arrested for murdering elderly patients to free up beds.

For 'caring' professions and for life critical professions, we really do need psychological profiling to test people's values before entrusting them with the care of others...
You mean like why we have a Police thread?

Yes, that includes for the police and security guards...

In all professions, there are (hopefully mostly) good dedicated people.

Unfortunately, there will also be unsuitable people desperate to enjoy the assumed status and prestige of working alongside such good dedicated people...


Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2067020 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 16633
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2067040 - Posted: 27 Jan 2021, 23:36:06 UTC
Last modified: 27 Jan 2021, 23:37:07 UTC

Here in the UK, very sadly:


Covid-19: 'Poor decisions' to blame for UK death toll, scientists say


Covid-19: UK deaths likely to come down slowly, {England's chief medical officer} Whitty warns


BIG RANT:

So what does it take for the very carefully considered view/results from Scientists to be fully heeded?!


People very definitely have died needlessly.


Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2067040 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 16633
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2067045 - Posted: 28 Jan 2021, 0:21:09 UTC

Here in the UK and elsewhere in the world:

Covid-19: Cough, fatigue, sore throat 'more common' with new variant
wrote:
Cough, fatigue, sore throat and muscle pain may be more common in people who test positive for the new UK variant of coronavirus...

... The new variant, which was first spotted in Kent in September, spreads more easily than the previous form of the virus and has now spread across the UK, causing a surge in cases which prompted the current lockdown. There is some evidence it could be more deadly than other variants, although the data isn't strong enough yet to say for certain.

Two other variants - one from South Africa and another from Brazil - are also circulating, although at lower levels...

... Higher viral load

Prof Lawrence Young, virologist and professor of molecular oncology at the University of Warwick, said the new variant of the virus had 23 changes compared to the original Wuhan virus. "Some of these changes in different parts of the virus could affect the body's immune response and also influence the range of symptoms associated with infection," he said.

Infected people appear to produce more virus and this could result in more widespread infection within the body "perhaps accounting for more coughs, muscle pain and tiredness"...



Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2067045 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2067062 - Posted: 28 Jan 2021, 2:54:52 UTC
Last modified: 28 Jan 2021, 2:57:59 UTC

A lengthy but informative report
Shame politics had to rear its ugly head.
If there is anyone thinking that European citizens would accept that we give this high quality vaccine to the UK and would accept to be treated as second class by a UK-based company, I think that the only consequence can be immediately stopping the export of the BioNtech (vaccine) and then we are in the middle of a trade war.
'So the company and the UK better think twice. When we see Europe is not treated well, not by the United States and not by the UK, then we have to show our weapons.
'We need to tell the other companies in the world if we treat the Europeans as second class, you will suffer for this.'
Someone ought to tell Ms Stella to get her Artois factory to convert to making vaccines instead of beer. Also what has the Pfizer/BioNtech got to do with AstraZeneca?

Love what Die Zeit said...
...It comes as the German press turned on Brussels yesterday as it denounced the EU's shambolic vaccine rollout as the 'best advert for Brexit'
ID: 2067062 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24554
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2067064 - Posted: 28 Jan 2021, 3:11:37 UTC

Good luck J & J
One hell of a game changer if it is that effective.
ID: 2067064 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 16633
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2067106 - Posted: 28 Jan 2021, 17:22:50 UTC
Last modified: 28 Jan 2021, 17:23:23 UTC

Meanwhile, what public craziness is this?!


Covid-19: Third of police officers 'threatened with deliberate infection'
wrote:
One in three police officers in England and Wales has been threatened by someone they believed had Covid-19, a survey suggests.

... 32% said someone they thought to be infected had threatened to breathe or cough on them.

Some 21% of officers said a suspected infected person tried to spit at them...



Debunking the Covid deniers who enter hospitals
wrote:
A man making false and misleading statements about Covid-19 tried to remove a sick coronavirus patient from East Surrey Hospital, and is wanted by police.

The man filmed himself arguing with doctors in the ward...

... It follows a trend of people filming supposedly "empty hospitals" and then posting them online and encouraging others to do the same, spread on social media platforms.

In a statement, Michael Wilson, chief executive of Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust, said: "Any suggestion that Covid-19 doesn't exist or isn't serious is not only extremely disrespectful to the NHS staff caring for patients affected by the virus, but it also puts the lives of others at risk."...




Badly incredible!!

Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2067106 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 29415
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 2067141 - Posted: 29 Jan 2021, 1:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 2067106.  

Badly incredible!!
Social Media. Or is it persons begging for Darwin Awards?
ID: 2067141 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 17729
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 2067142 - Posted: 29 Jan 2021, 2:12:19 UTC
Last modified: 29 Jan 2021, 2:12:45 UTC

Virus variant from South Africa detected in US for 1st time
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A new variant of the coronavirus emerged Thursday in the United States, posing yet another public health challenge in a country already losing more than 3,000 people to COVID-19 every day.

The mutated version of the virus, first identified in South Africa, was found in two cases in South Carolina. Public health officials said it’s almost certain that there are more infections that have not been identified yet. They are also concerned that this version spreads more easily and that vaccines could be less effective against it.

The two cases were discovered in adults in different regions of the state and do not appear to be connected. Neither of the people infected has traveled recently, the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control said Thursday.

“That’s frightening,” because it means there could be more undetected cases within the state, said Dr. Krutika Kuppalli, an infectious diseases physician at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston. “It’s probably more widespread.”
ID: 2067142 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 . . . 52 · Next

Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #7


 
©2022 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.