They should just round them up and while they have all them disease riddled pests hit with every vaccine know to humanity. :-)

I feel your frustration. No vax, no NHS / medicare or whatever you call it down there.[/quote]Medicare here. ;-)

Up here the press is going wild that Delta is getting through vax. However I haven't see one report on which vax(s) it is getting through. Saw a report saying XX% of the cases at place ZZ were vaxed. Well if 95% of the people in ZZ are vaxed, you would expect XX% of sick to be vaxed. Press is terrible at statistics, but wonderful at hyping fear.

Locally 100% of the people in ICU are un-vaxed. Also there are stories that younger people are dropping much faster than old people did at the start of the pandemic. Also the report that the r is 5 to 9 for delta is very troubling. That is high enough to essentially insure everyone who can get it will get it.

Stay safe out there.

At last count there was only 2 people in hospital that only had 1 vax shot and neither of them are in ICU, they're just getting a little oxygen therapy due to their age, but all those in ICU are all un-vaxed.

Most of those those here infected who had had 1 shot reported symptoms no worse than the flu at worse while others in the next group reported symptoms no worse than the common cold, there were a surprising amount that didn't even know that they were sick. Of those that had both shots the slight majority report cold like symptoms while the next lot report no symptoms at all, but there are a rare few that report flu like symptoms.

Anyhow I'll be having another bi-annual again in 3 days so I'll see if my doc has anything there, but I guess that I'll just wind up with another 6 month script and a flu jab and told to behave again.

We only have to look at our own TL04 who had both his injections, has some significant health issues. He was infected, which given his health problems one could reasonably expect to lead to an extended stay in hospital, possibly in ICU, but because he's vaccinated and he acted quickly it was a relatively mild infection which is being treated with drugs at home.
Yes, you may be vaccinated, but you can still get it, but the chances are that you only get a mild infection.

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Covid: Taxi and food discounts offer to boost youth vaccine uptake
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Young people will be offered discounted takeaways and taxi rides to get their Covid jabs in a bid to boost vaccine uptake...

Good and important to mop up the "Can't be bothered[*]" crowd!

*: If they were 'bothered' then they would be vaccinated by now, for everyone's good health (including theirs)!...


I do wonder how long the majority patience will last out before frustrations are let loose upon the extra costs and continuing disruptions from the minority not-vaccinated...?

We really do need to get our NHS back from the swamps of COVID!


Stay safe folks!
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YouTube suspends Sky News Australia
I didn't see that clip, so can't comment on it.
However...
...did see Channel 9's Today clip with Karl & Ally interviewing Craig Kelly.
Now I'm all for free speech but everyone involved in that clip were wrong.
Kelly was only interested in defending himself from slander, but his attitude (well, he is a politician).
Ally on the other hand surprised me with her attitude, that is no way for a presenter to act.
Tried finding it again to post, but unable (probably taken down).
You gotta love Covid.
Who needs a world war, this virus has done more damage than any war.

Whatever works!...

Way to go...

More than 85 million COVID-19 vaccines administered in UK
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• Two doses provide over 90% protection against hospitalisation from the Delta variant, which is the dominant strain in the UK
  
  
• All adults are eligible to get their second dose after eight weeks
  

More than 85 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine have been administered across the UK, the latest figures show, as the government continues to urge everyone eligible to get their vaccines as soon as possible to protect themselves and their loved ones...

... The latest data from Public Health England (PHE) and Cambridge University shows that around 60,000 deaths, 22 million infections and 52,600 hospitalisations have been prevented by vaccines up to 23 July...

Note especially, ASAP:

We really do need to get our NHS back from the swamps of COVID!

Stay safe folks!
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YouTube suspends Sky News Australia
I didn't see that clip, so can't comment on it.
However...
...did see Channel 9's Today clip with Karl & Ally interviewing Craig Kelly.
Now I'm all for free speech but everyone involved in that clip were wrong.
Kelly was only interested in defending himself from slander, but his attitude (well, he is a politician).
Ally on the other hand surprised me with her attitude, that is no way for a presenter to act.
Tried finding it again to post, but unable (probably taken down).
You gotta love Covid.
Who needs a world war, this virus has done more damage than any war.

Murdoch, Jones and Kelly says it all, but the actual clip involved was centered on that fake U.K. document that was stating a high number of deaths from vaccines compared to the number of deaths from COVID-19. I mentioned a bit about back here, Message 2080594, and that was old news way back then, but it was funny at the end though when both Jones and Kelly started taking questions and were being shot down by the real facts left, right and center which produced 2 of the reddest faces ever seen on a screen. Jones has basically been in hiding ever since while that fruitcake 1 term politician Kelly won't be around much longer either (his electorate and party has already dropped him with their replacements just waiting for the up coming elections to be held to see who replaces him).

[edit] As for channel 9 I only watch it when the cricket is on and I watch Sunrise on channel 7 instead of that Today bunch. ;-)

On Jan 7, before the vaccines were widely available, and the 'delta' variant, Florida reported 19,334 cases.
By Saturday, July 31, after about 60% of Floridians have been vaccinated, the state reported 21,683 cases.

If Florida were a separate country, it would have been 9th in the listing for 'New Cases'.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has resisted mandatory mask mandates and vaccine requirements, and along with the state Legislature, has limited local officials’ ability to impose restrictions meant to stop the spread of COVID-19. DeSantis on Friday barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-health-business-arts-and-entertainment-florida-01fa89e1d9491ab075c5deb689af1ea8

Delusional DeSantis (along with Delusional Donny) certainly doesn't seem to realise yet that it's his supporters who are the main ones doing the dying these days. :-O

Florida's DeSadist is right, no need for masks or vax. Delta poses no risk whatsoever.

LA County COVID-19 Hospitalizations Nearly Quadruple In One Month

Hospitalizations and Deaths are WAY DOWN from 2020 CV Peak.

Graphs of CV show a mole hill NOW and a 2020 Super Volcano.

Very Low Numbers are EASY to Double; Triple; Quadruple.

Use TODAYs CV Numbers with Peak Numbers of CV Peak 2020 and One would get a VERY SMALL One Digit Percentage.

Science Thread Posters Know Numbers and I'm Quadruple Sure. 'They' 'See' CV is NOT what is Was. And Is NOT going to be.

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No doubt you are looking at the numbers for the whole of the U.S.A. and yes they are down because a lot of people have been vaccinated.

But, if you take a look at the states where vaccinations are low the numbers are higher than in previous waves.
A prime example, as you venerate Desantis so much, is Florida.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

While I was in town for bi-annual medical and annual blood letting yesterday I put myself down on a 2nd list for the jab seeing as the jabs that should be coming here through the chemist network keep on being redirected back to city folk. It was a very long list, but I'll try my best to get it even if I have to put myself down on a 3rd list.

China responds quickly for good health.

In stark contrast, the USA response is looking badly deadly for some parts of the USA...



After a COVID-free year, delta arrives in Wuhan, China
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Delta is thought to have arrived in the country on a flight from Russia.

Officials in Wuhan, China, on Monday confirmed three delta cases, prompting them to order coronavirus testing for all 12 million or so of the city's residents...

... In addition to the massive testing campaign, officials sealed off parts of the city and restricted some domestic travel...

YET!!! In deadly stark contrast, we have this:

Delta engulfs unvaccinated in Florida, Louisiana; CDC clarifies breakthroughs

Vaccines and masks are both needed to lower transmission, US officials stress.

The delta-fueled surge in COVID-19 cases among unvaccinated Americans continues to overwhelm states and health care systems across the country, with Florida and Louisiana experiencing some of the worst tolls.

Nearly one in five new cases reported in the US each day is in the state of Florida—the third-most populous state in the country and one with below-average vaccination rates. On Friday, the Sunshine State reported 21,683 new cases ... the state's highest daily total of new cases in the course of the entire pandemic...

... On Monday, Louisiana Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards reinstated a statewide mask mandate, requiring everyone ages five and above to wear a mask indoors. "It has been clear that current recommendations on their own haven’t worked,” Gov. Edwards said at a press conference today.

Meanwhile, Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, took the opposite approach and signed an executive order Friday that barred school districts from forcing students to wear masks in schools...[!!!]

... US health officials re-emphasized that vaccines and masks are effective against the current surge, which is largely among the unvaccinated...

(Stupid) POLITICS BE DAMNED!

It is your lives...


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China responds quickly for good health.
YET!!! In deadly stark contrast, we have this:

In China a gun barrel is applied to your skull if you don't allow the government to put shot into your arm.
Yes, it is quite a contrast.

Well the last reporting period saw the world's total case tally pass 200.2 million as deaths passed 4,258,400 and the U.S. exceeded 104,000 new cases even with 3 states' stats still missing. :-O

Anyhow the only change at the top end of the death list was Bolivia replacing the Netherlands in 33rd while down the other end Vietnam has jumped from 109th position up to 96th and now it's time for the case list changes.

Mauritius displaced Comoros from 182nd place, the Isle of Man passed Chad to become the 178th member of the 5K+ club just after Gibraltar became the 177th while Laos jumped over Sierra Leone and Eritrea to claim 170th, Burundi took the C.A.R. out of 167th as Timor-Leste nudged South Sudan from 159th, Aruba took 157th from Djibouti and Lesotho jumped over Congo and Burkina Faso into 153rd just after Curaçao moved past Burkina Faso into 152nd.

The Bahamas knocked Andorra out of 148th spot, Togo replaced Taiwan in 144th as French Polynesia became the 138th country to enter the 20K+ clubhouse before removing Haiti from 137th, Suriname bumped Gabon from 134th while Eswatini and Mauritania jumped over Guinea and Syria to claim 130th & 131st places, Fiji closed the 5K gap to French Guiana to take over 128th and Australia reclaimed 125th spot back from that cheeky little Malta.

Réunion's weekly report had them move past Trinidad/Tobago to become the 122nd member of the 40K+ club, Angola rolled over Madagascar into 120th while the D.R.C. replaced the Ivory Coast in 118th, Cambodia displaced the Maldives from 110th as Cyprus slipped past Montenegro into 104th, Botswana removed Zimbabwe from 100th and Vietnam took flight again to pass over Norway, Latvia, Afghanistan, North Macedonia, Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia to make a refueling stop in 88th place.

South Korea became the 84th member of the 200K+ club, Honduras slipped past Oman to become the 71st member of the 300K+ club as Ireland became the 69th member of that same club before Myanmar became the 70th country to enter it flying over Oman, Honduras, Ireland and Venezuela in the process to land in 68th place as Denmark displaced Palestine from 65th, Kuwait became the 58th member of the 400K+ club after Cuba became the 57th as well as passing Costa Rica to grab 56th while Georgia kicked Bulgaria out of 54th, Greece became the 48th country to enter the 500K+ clubhouse and Thailand threw Tunisia out of its way to become the 43rd member of the 600K+ club before taking 42nd spot from Morocco.

Nepal became the 39th member of the 700K+ club while Malaysia leapt over both Sweden as Belgium to land in 27th spot and in only fortnight after the grand opening of the 35 million clubhouse the U.S. has just had the grand opening of their brand new 36 million clubhouse.

So that ends this update even though these days it's getting harder to get days with sufficient data from most countries to do these updates otherwise I'd go back to a 2 day update with all that's going on across the world with this Delta variant doing great damage.

China responds quickly for good health.
YET!!! In deadly stark contrast, we have this:

In China a gun barrel is applied to your skull if you don't allow the government to put shot into your arm.
Yes, it is quite a contrast.

That sounds more like the USA for just walking down the sidewalk, or Russia or Belarus for even just being seen on the street...


More seriously:

China does indeed have a desperately dire reputation for their authoritarian despot styled imprisonment and 're-education/indoctrination' 'camps'...

However, the notable aspects of those quotes for such a stark contrast are:

"three delta cases" and that immediately prompts the "testing for all 12 million or so of the city's residents" for coronavirus;

vs:

"delta-fueled surge in COVID-19 cases among unvaccinated Americans continues to overwhelm states and health care systems" prompting despair and denial and the incredibly stupid response of "Ron DeSantis, took the opposite approach and signed an executive order Friday that barred ... wearing masks"!


Is there an alternate agenda of trashing Florida and dead voters be damned for the sake of political points scoring?

Or is DeSantis somehow working for the benefit of China or Russia or both even?

(Or is DeSantis in the pay of USA Pharma to reap untold profits from the pain of all the long-term COVID victims? The Delta variant is claiming a highly profitable 50-50 chance of causing long term 'medical complications' damages... Ignore medical misery. Follow the money?)


Stay safe folks!
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China responds quickly for good health.
YET!!! In deadly stark contrast, we have this:

In China a gun barrel is applied to your skull if you don't allow the government to put shot into your arm.
Yes, it is quite a contrast.

More seriously:
China does indeed have a desperately dire reputation for their authoritarian despot styled imprisonment and 're-education/indoctrination' 'camps'...

"three delta cases" and that immediately prompts the "testing for all 12 million or so of the city's residents" for coronavirus;

testing at gunpoint something easy to do in a police state

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-china-coronavirus-pandemic-46fd21e9be94b2b3f4ebeb59ec4fa77c

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/01/china-quarantine-coronavirus/605455/

Thanks for those.

Well, that seems to have worked and for far less costs of life and disruption.

Most likely there were far fewer guns involved than are used daily on the streets in the USA.


The quarantines and sharp (short) lockdowns look to have worked well to minimize overall disruption.

Can we learn positively from that?...


There has to be a better way than the present ongoing muddled messy politics costly deadly mess.

Stay safe folks!
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China responds quickly for good health.

Was this copied verbatim off of one of their posters? :^p

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People As Believers in SCIENCE say This?:

Well, that seems to have worked and for far less costs of life and disruption.

Most likely there were far fewer guns involved than are used daily on the streets in the USA.

The quarantines and sharp (short) lockdowns look to have worked well to minimize overall disruption.

Can we learn positively from that?...

People Believe in Science? Believe CHINA?

Do No Harm. Believe CHINA Believes in Doing No Harm?

DIS; MIS; and NO INFORMATION CHINA?

CHINA says What Believers in SCIENCE will Believe.

ROTFLMFAO

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