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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17480 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
...and a red nose for Khan IMO the decision to allow any public transport operation to be mask free is the real stupidity. Trapped in a poorly ventilated tin can for many minutes with complete strangers has to one of the definitions that says "masks must be worn". |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Also, not forgetting those that did dock but passengers & crews not allowed to disembark. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
That's why a red nose for Khan. If tying down the biggest transport system in London to compulsory masks, the same should be said of all transport in London. After all, the muppet is Mayor of LONDON not just TfL. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14474 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
That's why a red nose for Khan. If tying down the biggest transport system in London to compulsory masks, the same should be said of all transport in London.That's not his fault. The Barbican story (where National Rail and TfL share neighbouring platforms, but are governed by different rules) was created by the idiots who make rules without understanding or caring about what happens on the ground. In this case, the third-rate reserve team who make up Boris Johnson's government. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
But it is. Mayor of London says it all. Masks are either compulsory or not on public transport. The owner/operator is not relevant. Edit: Nearly had me there. :-) Barbican has had no mainline trains stop there since 2009 after the platforms were extended at Farringdon. Had to check TBH as wasn't 100% sure. There are several other shared platforms but all still inside London. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Somebody please tell Bojo the Clown to STFU. "And I should serve notice now that by the end of September, when all over 18s have had their chance to be double jabbed we're planning to make full vaccination the condition of entry to nightclubs and other venues where large crowds gather."So from 19/7/21 until 30/9/21 is totally safe then Bojo? |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14474 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
But it is.It's a difficult question, which defeated Google. ThamesLink trains, which the BBC report shows sharing a platform with Circle / Hammersmith & City trains are: Temporarily shown on the Underground Network map. Co-ticketed with TfL via the Oyster platform. But I believe: They are not managed by the same company They do not share the same tracks or power supply systems. They are subject to different pandemic rules. I also believe that the Mayor can only make rules changes by ordering TfL to vary its 'conditions of carriage' - probably meaning you can walk mask-free on a TfL platform, but not board a train with the intention of going anywhere. That's different from the National Rail rules, which - until today - demanded that you wore a mask on both trains and stations. Whether that station was King's Cross in the rush hour, or my little commuter halt (two piles of sleepers, two bus shelters, and - outside peak periods - no passengers). |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
ThamesLink trains, which the BBC report shows sharing a platform with Circle / Hammersmith & City trains are:Still in service. - Faringdon to other destinations. Barbican route no longer in use. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14474 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Sorry, my mistake in message 2080396. I mis-remembered Barbican, but the BBC story clearly cites Farringdon as an example of the stations where mask confusion arises. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
No problem. Just forced me to recheck & confirm my memories. Something I think all politicians do not have. |
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No problem. Just forced me to recheck & confirm my memories.They have very good memories of who gives them donations. |
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No problem. Just forced me to recheck & confirm my memories.They have very good memories of who gives them donations. Mitch McConnell, meet your memory! "Do you ... uhhhh, mean ... uhhh. the donors that .... uhhh, finally decided to try to ... uhhh, thin the populaton .... not realizing ... uhhh, that means ... uhhh, less people to profit off ... .uhhh, of?" Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
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Got to ask:Cruise ships that were not allowed to dock at the time. .Makes one wonder why Trump didn't declare all waters international waters. as that would've made his early "number go down". Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
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Got to ask:Cruise ships that were not allowed to dock at the time. Didn't he try that with the South OF China Sea? Didn't go well for him. |
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... Cruise ships that were not allowed to dock at the time. Early on, didn't Trump try to block some cruise ships from docking in the USA so as to make his COVID numbers look 'better'?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Meanwhile around the world: Covid-19: India excess deaths cross four million... wrote: The Covid-19 pandemic has caused excess deaths in India to cross more than four million, a new study has found... Apple delays return to office as Covid cases rise wrote: Apple is delaying the return of staff to its offices, as global Covid cases rise, Bloomberg reports. The office space example is rather telling: Only 1/3rd the usual number of workers can be accommodated healthily in the office space compared to (crammed smelly) business as usual?... The reality of consequences hits home?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17480 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Looks like there are different rules when crossing the border between England and Scotland https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-57896887 @13:01 |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Find this report hard to believe. However, if true... "Hardly anyone under 60 goes into hospital... and of those virtually all survive. And I no longer buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff. Folks I think we may need to recalibrate... There are max 3m in this country aged over 80." |
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Unfortunately, that mindset is far too believable and would confirm my personal suspicions for why the COVID response has been with the apparent strategies that we have seen... Deadly incredible, but in my opinion and observations, very likely all too expensively deadly true. With an added dose of Ivory Towers and extra generous helpings of Eton Mess... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24436 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
The one major disturbing issue I've found during the last 17 months of this fiasco, is the unrelenting "herd stupidity" in labelling people that highlight genuine concerns. Confrontational Controversial Anarchists Conspiracy theorists... and worst of all ...anti-vaxxers. "Herd stupidity" at work In addition, from 7 August in Wales double vaccinated adults will no longer have to self-isolate if a close contact tests positive for Covid.The vaccination DOES NOT guarantee immunity. |
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