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Message 2068841 - Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 15:46:54 UTC

I'm sure $100 million worth of preferential treatment for CA is not going to stimulate much more than backslapping by the democrats that are pushing it through by attaching it to COVID based legislation.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 2068848 - Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 16:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 2068832.  

Fighting COVID (with a side dish of budget pork for CA).
House COVID bill includes over $100 million for controversial Silicon Valley underground rail project.

"It doesn’t help one person get the vaccine or boost testing capabilities. This is just further proof that congressional Democrats view the reconciliation process as a means to push through their wish list – which includes forcing taxpayers to pay even more for an over budget and delayed construction project in one of the wealthiest poorest regions in the country."
Poor thanks to the Howard Jarvis Landlords Association's proposition 13 that stripped cities and counties of their tax base to perform infrastructure projects.
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Message 2068895 - Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 1:55:38 UTC

"Have The New Jab"

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Message 2068989 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 14:30:29 UTC

Okay. Walked away, had a nice coffee & sat outside in the fresh air. Came back in. Good, nice & calm. :-)
Approx. 11:55 received a call. Posted publicly via Google on surgery.
Your telephone system is shambolic. You lack security concerns. Received a call a short time ago purporting to be your surgery. Caller requested to speak to my partner, a patient of your surgery, so passed phone over to her.
Call was to book a Covid jab & all went well until I heard my partner give her address & D.O.B. Banks & companies do not do this. They only require confirmation when the call is initiated by the client/customer/patient.

I interrupted call at that point & asked the caller to confirm their identity. All I got was that this is the doctors surgery & mentioned something about calling on mobile? Then she hung up.
Tried called the surgery & got told that I am 11th in queue, a short time later, that went to 10th..................
....gave up after 30 minutes waiting. Experienced numerous scam calls over the years which was the reason for the call to the surgery.
In this day & age with the amount of hacking & scams out there, don't you think your staff should identify themselves when they initiate calls?

As for using your online feedback form. Negative you ask for too much personal information which you have no need to have.
When you initiate calls, you have the patients details on screen so why ask for them along with failure to identity yourselves that has all the hallmarks of a scam.
I rate you 1/10
Just like a school teacher, I'll add a comment....
...Could do much better!
BTW, just like mine, her jab is someplace else out in the sticks. Another edge of the city. Sheesh.
Oh, if many think I am out of order, I recognised the voice, it was the surgery. Unless I initiate a call, I don't do personal info over the phone.
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Message 2069002 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 16:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 2068989.  
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BTW, just like mine, her jab is someplace else out in the sticks. Another edge of the city. Sheesh.

Here in the UK, the vaccinations are only being done in large public venues, even cathedrals(!), or only in the larger medical centres. From what I've seen, that looks to be a very good idea to be able to safely get large numbers of people through, quickly, and with enough space to keep everything safe. Some are organized by the military to very good positive effect.

And that is all a good idea that appears to be well organized. OK, that may well mean you need to travel to 'foreign parts' away from your 'normal' territory.

The vaccine roll-out looks to be one good success for our government!


Oh, if many think I am out of order, I recognised the voice, it was the surgery. Unless I initiate a call, I don't do personal info over the phone.

Yes, our medical admins seem to be somewhat behind the times and rely on a name, address, date of birth check for identifying anyone. That is actually intended as a check against mistakes rather than an actual security check. (Those three details are pretty much publicly available in any case...)

Unfortunately, scam callers have pretty much made cold calling poisonous. You can't rely on the caller-id not being spoofed either. Perhaps the only reliable way is for your doctors to send a message for you to call them back on a known number and confirm a security phrase that they sent you with their callback request. However, that secured procedure will be beyond some people to follow...


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Message 2069005 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 16:55:41 UTC - in response to Message 2069002.  

Here in the UK, the vaccinations are only being done in large public venues, even cathedrals(!), or only in the larger medical centres. From what I've seen, that looks to be a very good idea to be able to safely get large numbers of people through, quickly, and with enough space to keep everything safe. Some are organized by the military to very good positive effect.
And that is all a good idea that appears to be well organized. OK, that may well mean you need to travel to 'foreign parts' away from your 'normal' territory.
Maybe so. Are you sure that comment encompasses the whole of the UK?
The satellite office that she was directed to go to, is just that & a small one at that.
As for "normal" territory, we live close to one edge of the city, & it is easier to travel into town where her main surgery is situated.
Before I took over the call, partner was told to get a taxi.
Psst, Martin, I thought you said you were down my way some time ago?
Did you forget I am in the UK?
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Message 2069007 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 16:58:09 UTC - in response to Message 2069002.  

[url]Unfortunately, scam callers have pretty much made cold calling poisonous. You can't rely on the caller-id not being spoofed either. Perhaps the only reliable way is for your doctors to send a message for you to call them back on a known number and confirm a security phrase that they sent you with their callback request. However, that secured procedure will be beyond some people to follow...[/url]

Before, and after having the jab I had a number of scam callers, various give-aways like expecting one to pay, call not coming from the UK, not using my mobile phone.
Then a couple of letters arrived and I went onto the NHS website, booked both first and second jabs at the same time. Headed off at the allotted hour and everything went very smoothly.
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Message 2069014 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 18:30:55 UTC
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For some good positive results:


Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness
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The first data on the UK Covid vaccine rollout suggests it is having a "spectacular" impact on stopping serious illness, researchers say.

Within weeks, one shot reduces the risk of being admitted to hospital by at least three-quarters for the over 80s. Researchers said this was particularly impressive as this age group was the most frail and least likely to have a strong immune response. Monitoring of health staff also shows vaccination helps cut transmission.

So far a third of adults have received a vaccination in the UK...



Hopefully we don't get a renewed wave due to vaccinated people becoming less cautious and less safe with their actions...


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Message 2069019 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021, 20:08:50 UTC

Our vaccine rollout started yesterday and once front line workers (1A) and nursing/retirement home residents (1B) are done it'll be time for the rest of us old farts down under to get it.
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Message 2069060 - Posted: 23 Feb 2021, 5:12:49 UTC

Now that most of the weekend's numbers are in at the last reporting period saw the world's total case tally pass 112.2 million while deaths passed 2,484,800. :-(

Now for the latest in the case list, New Zealand is down in 174th while Vietnam is in 173rd and it looks like Australia will keep 111th for a little bit longer.

Mozambique nudged Afghanistan from 97th, Ghana and Sri Lanka both passed Uzbekistan to take up 88th and 89th places respectively while Albania kicked North Macedonia out of 82nd long with passing 100,000 cases, Paraguay removed Nigeria from 72nd as Kazakhstan slipped past Denmark to claim 57th, Ecuador took 47th from Nepal, Hungary became the 38th country to pass 400,000 infections along with Israel blowing Belgium out of 26th and Chile became the 23rd country to pass 800,000 cases while passing Portugal, Indonesia replaced Peru in 18th and India (2nd place) finally passed 11 million cases, but it is good to see that the daily numbers have dropped dramatically.

Anyhow that's it until the next update.
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Message 2069106 - Posted: 23 Feb 2021, 16:37:08 UTC

Earlier, Mr Hancock said he wanted measures to become a "matter of personal responsibility and social norms" that could see people choosing to wear masks on public transport.
Prof Sir John Bell, regius chair of medicine at Oxford University, told BBC Radio 4's World at One he thought, and hoped, the country would get back to the stage where people did not wear masks, with Covid "operating in the background" like flu.
Sadly, still too many stuck in rose tinted ivory towers
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Message 2069149 - Posted: 24 Feb 2021, 1:29:25 UTC

India coronavirus: 240 new COVID strains found as cases suddenly surge.

Authorities are particularly concerned about what is happening in Maharashtra, a state in the western peninsular region, where cases have suddenly surged.

Dr Shashank Joshi, a member of Maharashtra’s COVID Task Force, told Indian media that experts have detected 240 new strains of the virus across India in the recent surge.

He believes some of the new strains may be more infectious and could be a reason for the sudden increase in cases.
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Message 2069275 - Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 16:33:56 UTC

What a farce.
Amazing, get a letter from the NHS about booking an appointment for both doses.
Okay, no problem, let's try it.
NHS number - check
D.O.B. - Check
Answer various questions regarding flu jabs - check
Enter postcode for nearest Vac centre - check
Up crops a list of 30.
Now the fun starts
The nearest is 28 miles away & in tier 3 (I'm in tier 4)
The furthest is 60 miles away.

Funny thing though is a report today....
She says there are so many complex factors at play. "If you haven't got a car or you are in ill health, it may not be easy to get to a vaccination centre. We can't assume it is because people do not want to be vaccinated - it may be about access.
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So much for lockdown.
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Message 2069286 - Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 18:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 2069275.  
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What a farce.
Amazing, get a letter from the NHS about booking an appointment for both doses.
Okay, no problem, let's try it.
NHS number - check
D.O.B. - Check
Answer various questions regarding flu jabs - check
Enter postcode for nearest Vac centre - check
Up crops a list of 30.
Now the fun starts
The nearest is 28 miles away & in tier 3 (I'm in tier 4)
The furthest is 60 miles away.

Funny thing though is a report today....
She says there are so many complex factors at play. "If you haven't got a car or you are in ill health, it may not be easy to get to a vaccination centre. We can't assume it is because people do not want to be vaccinated - it may be about access.
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So much for lockdown.

Yes... For the transport practicalities...

I was under the impression that the travel restrictions are relaxed for the 'essential' such as medical or vaccination?

Interestingly, the advice from my medical centre is to travel by taxi...

Again, all a game of numbers and practicalities. The big centralized vaccination centres are a good idea for logistics and safety at those big centres. However, they also require a large circle of people to travel into that centre (from hopefully not too far afield)...


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Message 2069296 - Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 19:20:12 UTC - in response to Message 2069286.  

Yes... For the transport practicalities...
I was under the impression that the travel restrictions are relaxed for the 'essential' such as medical or vaccination?
Just an example, HOW many "new" medical centres built between the 28 mile Vac centre & the 60 mile one?
I know of 6 within 5 miles of my location - not small dinky little surgeries but large centres.
No matter how you attempt to spin it...
... it's a total farce.
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Message 2069299 - Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 19:47:50 UTC - in response to Message 2069296.  

It looks as if the local medical centres, and the national mass vaccination centres, aren't hooked up to the same booking list.

The local medical centre (~2 miles away) got to me before the national call-up (by about 12 hours). So I had my first jab done at the medical centre. For giggles, I've just tried to book my booster through the national website.

As soon as I'd identified myself (nhs number and d.o.b. - not even a name, which saves typing with a long name like mine!), I got the firm retort:

You are not currently eligible to book through this service
If you’ve already had your first dose of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine at a GP surgery or hospital, contact them to book the second dose of the vaccine.
So it seems it's "either / or". The national service probably doesn't even know where the medical centres are, and I doubt my GP has bothered to find out where the national centres are. Once you've chosen your channel of communication (phone or website), you're marshalled down the appropriate pathway.
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Message 2069316 - Posted: 25 Feb 2021, 22:42:50 UTC - in response to Message 2069299.  

Government websites are built for the government official, not their users, the taxpayer.
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Message 2069366 - Posted: 26 Feb 2021, 16:01:20 UTC

This is rather a long read, but gives a good comparison across Europe:


Coronavirus: What Europeans have learned from a year of pandemic


Quite a contrast...

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Message 2069369 - Posted: 26 Feb 2021, 16:06:03 UTC

And for deep food for thought:


Covid: Thousands sign petition against vaccine passports


All a question of for who's liberty?

Freedoms regardless? Or insist upon the freedom to not be recklessly infected?


The joker amongst all that are the scary proportion of ignorant and fearful... How can we safely and 'reasonably' work around those?


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Message 2069374 - Posted: 26 Feb 2021, 16:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 2069369.  

Why are politicians so bad at lateral thinking?

There are "deep and complex issues" with using vaccine passports or certificates to prove someone's Covid "status", Boris Johnson has said.

Announcing a review of the proposal, he said using certificates to allow visits to venues such as pubs and theatres was a "novelty for our country".
Completely untrue - at least as far as pubs are concerned.

British pubs are age-limited - no access if you're under 18 (except children accompanying parents or other adults). There have been many "Proof of age" certification schemes over the years - and the kids can't wait to qualify for them.

I'm a lot further from 'first legal drink' than Boris is, and I can remember them - why can't he?
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