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Message 2142177 - Posted: 18 Oct 2024, 20:26:19 UTC

Delusional Donny scores yet another loss to add to his losers tally.

Judge Chutkan Unseals Mountain of Donald Trump Evidence From Jack Smith.

Attorney General Bill Barr told Donald Trump that his claims of election fraud were "crazy," newly released prosecution documents show.

Judge Tanya Chutkan unsealed nearly 2,000 pages of evidence in the former president's election fraud case on Friday despite impassioned pleading from Trump's lawyers that it could damage his presidential campaign.

The testimony forms part of the evidence in Trump's election fraud case, suggesting that Barr may be called a witness, making him the first attorney general to testify against his president.....
It should be an interesting read.
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Message 2142350 - Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 22:35:39 UTC

I hope that those girls get to enjoy all those things.

Giuliani Has 7 Days To Surrender His Apartment.

Then there's Donny's pet judge.

Aileen Cannon Being Considered as Donald Trump's AG Sparks Fury: 'Insane'.

The U.S. will be in crooked delusional hands and in big trouble if Donny gets back in.
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Message 2142399 - Posted: 25 Oct 2024, 0:12:02 UTC - in response to Message 2142350.  

It's very concerning to learn the following from highly placed officials in the Trump administration, who worked directly with him: Trump is reported to have repeatedly praised Adolph Hitler as having done 'good things'. He also expressed the desire to have generals under his command like Hitler's generals; pretty clearly meaning: loyal to him, personally, not to the Constitution of the United States of America.

When I reflect on the sacrifices, including the ultimate one, which so many made in World War II to stop fascism, I realize what a bizarre figure Trump is, and what perilous times we are living in.
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Message 2142420 - Posted: 25 Oct 2024, 12:38:18 UTC - in response to Message 2142399.  
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We've known this about him since 1990 when Ivana Trump (who was married to him until that year) indicated that he kept a copy of Mein Kampf or My New Order on his nightstand...

"It was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew."

In response, Davis is quoted as saying he did give his friend a book about Hitler, but that it was actually My New Order A Collection of Speeches not Mein Kampf.


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I notice in his manner and bearing though that he seems to have studied, and emulated, Mussolini far more.
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Message 2142431 - Posted: 25 Oct 2024, 20:22:29 UTC

This really does put Trump into a very real context:

BRUTAL Trump dementia ad suggests HORRIFYING reality

... And yet, that really is the reality of Trump.

And note that Trump really has said, in public, on TV, at rallies, all of those crazy things...



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Message 2142513 - Posted: 29 Oct 2024, 8:10:02 UTC

The fallout from Trump’s NYC rally continues.

‘He’ll lose it for us’: Donald Trump voters panicking.

It’s the final days of the US election campaign and the momentum would appear to be with Donald Trump.

He has clawed back some of Kamala Harris’ lead in the polls, leaving the contest essentially neck and neck.

But a small sign – no bigger than an A4 piece of paper – on a Republican Party office window in a remote corner of the US, has revealed a deep worry in the Trump campaign.

“He could lose this, he could,” one Trump supporter told news.com.au.

While an academic has said his bombastic rally this weekend in New York City may have “angered” more people that were energised..........
And this idiot should've known better, if he had at least half a brain to use.

An Aussie dad who sported a MAGA cap to a pub in Brisbane has been left stunned by the reaction to the item of clothing.

An Aussie dad claims to have been shocked when he was asked to leave a proud LGBTQIA+ Brisbane pub for wearing a Donald Trump hat, with staff telling him he was “not welcome” in the establishment.

Queensland dad Rob Holt, was attending a Halloween rave at The Wickham in Fortitude Valley, with his wife and six-year-old daughter over the weekend when a staff member asked him to leave due to his ‘Trump 2024’ cap.......
Luckily he had his wife and daughter with him as there could've been a big pile on happening with him being on the bottom of it.
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Message 2142554 - Posted: 30 Oct 2024, 16:50:13 UTC - in response to Message 2142420.  
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In response, Davis is quoted as saying he did give his friend a book about Hitler, but that it was actually My New Order A Collection of Speeches not Mein Kampf.
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I notice in his manner and bearing though that he seems to have studied, and emulated, Mussolini far more.
It is disgusting what he bases his thinking on. It reveals an immoral, historically uninformed narcissist who admires the diabolic genius of fascist despots to create mass movements of ardent followers to ruthlessly push evil goals. But studying Hitler's or Mussolini's phrasing or manners to gather supporters and convince voters does not make Trump another Hitler.

What I think is more serious: Trump clearly has an affinity to Putin; or rather is forced to submit to Putin's will.

A President of the U.S. must never be a submissive tool of Moscow. Any such candidate is ineligible.

Ronald Reagan exaggerated the USSR as the "Evil Empire". It was ruled by three factions: heads of state-run big industry, omnipresent KGB, and the Communist Party (CPSU). Neither faction had absolute power; some kind of "checks and balances"; autocratic, but post-Stalin no longer despotic.

Reagan destroyed the USSR's economy; won the Cold War. The crisis led Boris Yeltsin to destroy the CPSU; a failed coup ended the existence of the union state. The KGB survived essentially unchanged; no revolution destroyed its structures unlike in most other Eastern-bloc dominions. For a century the feared Chekists improved their skills and methods to spy out and blackmail people, to infiltrate groups; to control and subdue whole societies... to hide the truth, destroy evidence; and establish an alternative truth instead.

It should not be forgotten that WWII was initiated by Hitler AND Stalin; to divide and subdue most European nations. Nazis were defeated, the USSR ultimately among the victors; their claimed superiority recognized; its expansion-oriented, violent mindset still intact. Putin, the former 'FSB' a.k.a. 'KGB' chief, rehabilitated Stalin; a 2nd time covered up all his genocidal crimes and formed a true "Evil Empire".

Trump and Putin... that scares me... not Trump's passion for fascists of the past. Ohhh... if I would look at Putin as a modern-day fascist...
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Message 2142572 - Posted: 30 Oct 2024, 22:06:44 UTC

Donny's pillow buddy only has himself to blame for the position that he's in.

My Pillow's Mike Lindell Sues Lenders, Alleges 'Loan Sharking' Terms.

My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell has filed a lawsuit accusing several financing companies of exploiting his business through a high-interest $600,000 loan, alleging the lenders employed "loan sharking" tactics.

An outspoken supporter of Republican presidential nominee and former President Donald Trump, Lindell claims that the cash advance deal with Lifetime Funding, CapSpot Financial and Funderz Group was disguised as a sales contract, effectively operating as an illegal, high-interest loan to skirt New York's strict usury laws.

According to Lindell's team, MyPillow urgently needed $600,000 as the company's financial options had dwindled under the strain of litigation costs, a diminished credit line and retail boycotts. In this context, Lindell's legal team argues, the merchant cash advance (MCA) companies exploited the situation by imposing strict terms, including access to employee records and restrictions on pursuing other financing sources.

Newsweek reached out to Lifetime Funding, CapSpot Financial and Funderz for comment on Tuesday.

Details in the complaint show that the financing agreement required daily payments of $16,800, amounting to $840,000 in total. This pushed the effective interest rate to 368 percent—or 441 percent with additional fees—well above the legal limit set in New York........
It just goes to show that lenders realise how much of a liability he really is.
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Message 2142625 - Posted: 1 Nov 2024, 20:59:01 UTC

Delusional Donny just can't stop sprouting hate, vengeance and violent rhetoric.

Trump's Latest Liz Cheney Remarks Spark Fury from His Former Aides.

Trump's comments about Liz Cheney made during a sit-down interview with Tucker Carlson on Thursday in Arizona sparked backlash from some of his former administration aides who found the rhetoric "dangerous and escalatory."

Trump sat with Carlson in Glendale, Arizona as the former president looked to shore up support in one of the seven swing states that could decide the election. Trump also held a rally, but it was his comments during his sit-down with Carlson that caused a stir.

Cheney continues to be one of the most vocal anti-Trump Republicans, which has caused no shortage of aggravation for the former president. He took aim at her during his interview, calling her "a radical war hawk."

"Let's put her with the rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her," Trump said. "OK, let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.".........
Which has erupted into a pile on with this result.

Trump's Liz Cheney Remarks Probed by AG as Possible 'Death Threat'.

Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes on Friday said her office is investigating whether former President Donald Trump's remarks about former Wyoming Liz Cheney having "guns trained on her face" broke the law.

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws," Mayes said to NBC affiliate 12NEWS.

This is a developing story and will be updated when more information becomes available.
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Message 2142657 - Posted: 2 Nov 2024, 11:31:06 UTC
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Incredible... Obscene.

What is Trump doing with that poor microphone, amongst all his threats against the backstage staff?

Trump Does the UNTHINKABLE at his FINAL SPEECH

I'm incredulous. Tickling his own petard???!!! On stage, in public, for his closing act?!!! Definitely stinky after being fondled by his sweaty hands!

Completely not befitting any country let alone the great USA...


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Message 2142659 - Posted: 2 Nov 2024, 12:25:50 UTC - in response to Message 2142657.  

At the end, even the presenter is uncomfortably lost for words...

Myself also.


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Message 2142703 - Posted: 4 Nov 2024, 0:17:01 UTC

What a month catching up with the illegal acts of Donald J Trump the convicted criminal:


Oct. Legal Recap: From Jack Smith Disclosing Evidence of Trump's J6 Crimes to Trump Unraveling


Phew!

That lot makes Watergate look like a kindergarten party!!

Whatever next for the USA?


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Message 2142738 - Posted: 4 Nov 2024, 21:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 2142703.  

Whatever next for the USA?


For what little it's worth, I'm predicting "A Kamala Harris presidency" with very little reliance on polls. We'll see over the next couple of days...
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Message 2142743 - Posted: 5 Nov 2024, 5:09:30 UTC

Sitting at the pub tonight listening to an obvious Rump supporter calling him a liar, a felon, a expletive (pile of crap) and many other terrible things, then spouting his lines about the economy tanking under Biden (look up GDP and national debt if you want real information). They were still going to vote for him.

The line, you can have your own opinion, but there is only one set of facts. That pile of crap - and he is worse than most can imagine - has brainwashed about 1/2 the country into the belief of false facts.
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Message 2142752 - Posted: 5 Nov 2024, 7:58:19 UTC

An American acquaintance of mine, hates Trump but is not ready to vote for a mixed race woman. Lives in Florida so says his vote won't matter, so might as well vote for Trump!!
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Message 2142753 - Posted: 5 Nov 2024, 8:14:16 UTC

I don't think that this can only be attributed to Trump. There is a broad political movement behind him that supposedly started with the Tea Party movement within the GOP. A bad-informed, raging grassroots resistance against those at the top, against the federal government (perceived as intrusive), excessive government spending... If Trump weren't their candidate, it would be someone else with a similar world view.

Well, Trump's self-obsession, repulsive lack of character; his immoral actions and speeches are unique and disgusting... His fierce 'supporters' who are attracted to this kind of dirty politcal debate, who actively advocate on the streets (or storming Capitol on Jan 6), seem just as repulsive.

Would someone else than Trump, e.g. Vivek Ramaswamy; a candidate who might appear more civilized and credible, who doesn't obviously lie every minute, might even win more votes with a landslide victory? Only to push the same policies as Trump intends... against all resistance and advice (that what in former decades constituted 'conservatism': resistance to too far-reaching changes in too short a time)

Maybe I'm completely wrong.
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Message 2142760 - Posted: 5 Nov 2024, 12:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 2142743.  

Sitting at the pub tonight listening to an obvious Rump supporter calling him a liar, a felon, a expletive (pile of crap) and many other terrible things, then spouting his lines about the economy tanking under Biden (look up GDP and national debt if you want real information). They were still going to vote for him.

The line, you can have your own opinion, but there is only one set of facts. That pile of crap - and he is worse than most can imagine - has brainwashed about 1/2 the country into the belief of false facts.


I couldn't agree more. I read news, or at least what is said to be news from every source I find, and not only is Trump spreading misinformation, so is right wing media. Yes, left wing news outlets spread misinformation, but the magnitude is light years apart. On the right, I see extreme gerrymandering, voter suppression, and outright lies to gain or hold onto power. This can't be justified regardless of policies. What I see as a huge problem, is that the policies on the right don't solve anything, other than make life for everyday people harder.

I see pure ideologies as traps, whether they are political, religious, or other. Solutions often lie in a mix of ideologies. The free market is a good thing, but it doesn't always work. Health care, education, and even the military are examples of where the solutions lie in a more social system. The US healthcare system a a rotten mess, and is the most expensive in the world. It is filled with complex, nonsensical insurance options, that vary from state to state, and from company to company. You need a PHD is horse excrement to even begin to understand the ridiculous system we have, which no other country should ever emulate.

Anyway, today I will vote, and it won't be for anyone who lies, cheats, and projects those traits on their political opponents. I will vote for solutions to existing problems, not evil rhetoric. The Chips act, In Inflation Reduction Act, and the Infrastructure package went a long way to actually solving problems, and even the suggested repeal of the Chips Act from the Speaker of the House were rebuffed by another GOP Congressman because it was helping his constituents so much. These policies were long overdue, and still not enough.

I have seen first hand what happens if things are allowed to decay. Whether it is your house, your company, your town, your state, your country, or your planet. Things don't fix themselves. It takes actual work, and money to make things happen. Giving tax cuts to the wealthiest individuals does nothing to solve any of these problems. Removing lead pipes, rebuilding bridges and roads, ensuring clean air, and reducing greenhouse gasses do solve problems.

I guess I'm done ranting for the moment. I have to work before my boss discovers that I am typing here. :)
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Message 2142765 - Posted: 5 Nov 2024, 15:35:45 UTC - in response to Message 2142752.  
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An American acquaintance of mine, hates Trump but is not ready to vote for a mixed race woman. Lives in Florida so says his vote won't matter, so might as well vote for Trump!!


Egads... I am glad they are an "acquaintance" rather than a "friend". Even disregarding the overt sexism and racism of their observation, Florida went to Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 so a vote there certainly does matter.

Hope... fading..... :^p I'm avoiding all news today and tomorrow both internet and TV. May have to stay away from here too.
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Message 2142797 - Posted: 6 Nov 2024, 4:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 2142738.  
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Whatever next for the USA?


For what little it's worth, I'm predicting "A Kamala Harris presidency" with very little reliance on polls. We'll see over the next couple of days...


And this is why I usually don't make predictions... they don't work out well. :^p

Donald Trump has been confirmed to be re-elected as the 47th POTUS capturing 276 electoral votes (270 required) so far, and also winning the total/popular vote 51% to 47.7% at current count.

By doing so, he becomes only the second POTUS to win two non-consecutive terms, with the only other being Grover Cleveland in 1892. The GOP also flipped two Senate seats and now have Senate control with 51. The House is still in contention.
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