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Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
This afternoon in my hometown, four Rumpists had covered the bridge railings over the 10 lane freeway with Rump signs and were busy waving others at the evening rush hour traffic. Considering that Rump is going to lose in California without question, why is the campaign spending money here when it won't make any difference in the vote? [...]Hmm, can't excessive faith in polls eventually lead to supporters of the likely winner feeling less motivated to vote because they have other plans, the weather is bad, whatever. Perhaps Republicans are counting on the effects of such polls and are still mobilizing? In Germany political scientists and advisors developed a method called "asymmetric demobilization". It is a campaign strategy that aims to demotivate the political opponent's potential voters to such an extent that they refrain from voting by avoiding statements on controversial issues. Unless the party's own voters are inadvertently demobilized at the same time, the share of votes for the party that practices this strategy increases. The decrease in voter turnout is deliberately accepted. |
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This afternoon in my hometown, four Rumpists had covered the bridge railings over the 10 lane freeway with Rump signs and were busy waving others at the evening rush hour traffic. Considering that Rump is going to lose in California without question, why is the campaign spending money here when it won't make any difference in the vote? [...]Hmm, can't excessive faith in polls eventually lead to supporters of the likely winner feeling less motivated to vote because they have other plans, the weather is bad, whatever. Perhaps Republicans are counting on the effects of such polls and are still mobilizing? California, where I'm located, 100% get a vote by mail ballot so there are few reasons to not vote and the return postage is even free. |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
California, where I'm located, 100% get a vote by mail ballot so there are few reasons to not vote and the return postage is even free.Without previously ordering the mail ballot? Which would at least require the voter to fill out a form and send it to the electoral authority (or e.g. online form)? In my opinion, that's not right. That's not what is meant by "general, direct, free, equal and secret elections" (as it is written for example in our constitution). It gives activist supporters a variety of opportunities to "collect" votes, so to speak: in the family; among older citizens; in community accommodation, among those who are not interested in elections. In Germany, on average 30% of votes are cast by mail. Never 30% of citizens are out of town on election days (always sundays). In my opinion, this is a growing problem for democracy. |
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Correct.California, where I'm located, 100% get a vote by mail ballot so there are few reasons to not vote and the return postage is even free.Without previously ordering the mail ballot? Which would at least require the voter to fill out a form and send it to the electoral authority (or e.g. online form)Old system. In my opinion, that's not right. That's not what is meant by "general, direct, free, equal and secret elections" (as it is written for example in our constitution).The problem some see here is the turnout being less than 20% of registered voters for many elections. [not presidential but local] |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
The problem some see here is the turnout being less than 20% of registered voters for many elections. [not presidential but local]Ouch! Supposedly, any turnout below 50% is worrying if you think about what 'elected representative' means. Then, I understand authorities' decision to send everyone a mailin ballot. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19490 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
The problem some see here is the turnout being less than 20% of registered voters for many elections. [not presidential but local] Go the Australian way, move polling day to Sunday and make it compulsory, with fines for non-voters. |
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Trump's lies have very real word very real people consequences: Furious North Carolinian EVISCERATES Trump on air Very sad and very real consequences. Only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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INCREDIBLE!... Really? Is this the great USA? Land of The People?? See, hear, squirm: BREAKING: New Supreme Court scandal SURGES into spotlight Ouch. That explains a lot. How does the USA get out of that?... Only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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A compulsive liar? Podcast host LAUGHS IN TRUMP’S FACE over blatant lie Oh so honest a natural reaction. But is that against a psychopathic liar There are drastic consequences to very real people and our world... 'Just' only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Phew! Incredible #2! See, hear, Ouch! Judge BLOWS UP Trump’s Plan in ORDER He Feared Is this the end of Trump? Only in the USA... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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My personal reaction: All simply sickening. Truly a narcissistic detached from reality psychopath. With worldwide threat and danger. How do people vote for that?! Only in the USA?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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BBC - Sparks fly in Question Time US election special, video clip 1m:58s Full 1 hour program, Youtube - LIVE: BBC Question Time US Special | BBC News. Not available to UK viewers, unless you use a VPN. |
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Only a wannabe dictator would even suggest this, and it should worry many. Trump doubles down on idea to use the military against US citizens who disagree with him. Former US president Donald Trump is not stepping away from his suggestion that America’s military should be deployed against its own citizens if they disagree with him, politically. |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
How do people vote for that?!In normal times, any respectable, politically experienced opponent should be able to beat Trump in a landslide victory. The fact that it will probably be close is certainly not due to Trump's superior abilities. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party was unable or unwilling to recognize this. When Joe Biden became president, he was a politically experienced, convincing personality. That's why he won. Kamala Harris is supposed to be the Democrats' most suitable candidate for the Oval Office? Among 330 million Americans? I fear she is not a convincing personality. That's why many people still prefer to vote for Trump, despite all of the narcissistic, almost unbelievable stuff we can read about him here frequently. |
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McDuck, she is a woman. To the small brained that alone that is enough. |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
McDuck, she is a woman. To the small brained that alone that is enough.Whoa... I thought we are beyond that. So let me put it more precisely: ... "among >100 million female Americans". If we are not beyond that... even then it is still the party's responsibility to nominate the most suitable, experienced candidate... thus, which also has to consider stone-age prejudices... i.e. to win the elections in swing states with sufficient votes also from rural* regions. [*] Assuming a rural bias for MAGA... Gender prejudices also work the opposite direction: There cannot be sufficient many female Trump voters to win him the elections, isn't it? |
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Whoa... I thought we are beyond that.Germany is. The USA is not. Far too many bible thumpers who believe it literally. |
Scrooge McDuck ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1354 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
I doubt we really are.Whoa... I thought we are beyond that.Germany is. Within party organizations we are beyond that; in part due to quotas or mandatory alternating genders on candidate lists. Our female political leaders (former chancelor, state presidents) won elections with proportional representation; not majority elections like in the UK or US. They were elected by a majority coalition of MPs, not by majority of the voters. Would be interesting to directly elect state presidents or the chancellor. I assume it would not change the proportion of female leaders but it would change the character and personalities of those successful in elections. I don't go so far to say that would improve things. Surely voters would elect a couple of MTG copies or Boris Johnson like mavericks. |
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Enough to Trump Trump on his home turf of Fox(y sly) News? Fox News’s interview of Kamala Harris was grievance theater, not political journalism wrote: “fascist to the core” Quite an interview. And that very much wasn't Trump... He'd have s**t his pants! Only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Ouch! Trump's ALL-WOMEN Town Hall, Says He’s the Father of IVF & Dave Bautista Shreds Trump's Masculinity Hilarious!! Except... It's all for real... Only in the USA? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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