The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean"

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Message 2060582 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 12:20:37 UTC

Lost in the Trump delusion:


IT'S PARTY TIME!

Beer and angst as White House party defies another protocol
wrote:
... The party was a break with tradition. There is no law that forbids the president from hosting a celebration at the White House on election night. But no other president has organised a gathering like this one...




Whatever next?

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Message 2060591 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 15:41:58 UTC

If Trump gets another 4 years, the World, especially the U.S. will have more than Covid-19 to worry about.
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Message 2060597 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 16:18:36 UTC
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Well it isn't over just yet... Joe Biden has a very narrow path to a very slim victory: he's currently leading in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan by razor-thin margins, and with a comfortable lead in Maine. If he captures all five of these states, he will reach 270 electoral college votes , where 270 are required.

The votes being counted right now are mail-in/absentee which are predominantly Democratic, so he may keep those leads. Of course, Trump's campaign is trying to get the counts stopped but I have no idea why as then Biden would instantly be the victor as he's ahead!

Biden also leads the total vote count by 2.8 million. If Trump wins it will be another electoral college "victory"... 2016 all over again.

Edit: Maine appears to have been called for Biden so he needs the other four states. And I corrected my count above... Joe will get exactly 270 electoral college votes if he wins all four remaining battlegrounds.

Thus, one "faithless elector" could doom his presidency.
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Message 2060598 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 16:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 2060597.  

Well it isn't over just yet... Joe Biden has a very narrow path to a very slim victory: he's currently leading in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan by razor-thin margins, and with a comfortable lead in Maine. If he captures all five of these states, he will reach 271 electoral college votes , where 270 are required.

The votes being counted right now are mail-in/absentee which are predominantly Democratic, so he may keep those leads. Of course, Trump's campaign is trying to get the counts stopped but I have no idea why as then Biden would instantly be the victor as he's ahead!

Biden also leads the total vote count by 2.8 million. If Trump wins it will be another electoral college "victory"... 2016 all over again.

And if it hasn't been decided by Jan 20, then Nancy becomes President.
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Message 2060600 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 17:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 2060597.  

The votes being counted right now are mail-in/absentee which are predominantly Democratic, so he may keep those leads. Of course, Trump's campaign is trying to get the counts stopped but I have no idea why as then Biden would instantly be the victor as he's ahead!
I've been thinking about what he actually said in that speech overnight. I think I've changed my mind - I think it's quite clever.

The words are quite unexceptional - nobody would want forged ballot papers to be dumped from an unmarked truck round the back of the counting centre, at four in the morning.

But I bet there are some high-rises in New York City built with cheaper, weaker cement than the architect specified - dumped out of an unmarked truck, round the back of the building site, at four in the morning. And I think I know someone who could think like that, and who has friends who could organise a scam like that.

I don't think it would or could happen: ballot papers should be escorted, tracked, and counted better than sacks of cement.

But the dog-whistle has spoken, and planted the idea that legitimate votes, properly made in good time and entrusted to the mail, are equivalent to those sacks of forgeries. A lot of voters will hear that dog-whistle, and put pressure on lawyers and courts to call an early end to counting. I hope they can withstand it.
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Message 2060601 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 17:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 2060600.  
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But I bet there are some high-rises in New York City built with cheaper, weaker cement than the architect specified - dumped out of an unmarked truck, round the back of the building site, at four in the morning. And I think I know someone who could think like that, and who has friends who could organise a scam like that.


Many New Yorkers would also know that a similar scam happened during the construction of the Brooklyn Bridge... the wire contractor was changed from the bridge's designer to another by way of political maneuvering. He then ran a scam where shipments of tested and certified wire being shipped to the site were intercepted, and poor-quality rejected wire was substituted. By the time this was discovered, the bad wire was already woven into the bridge cables and could not be removed. It's estimated they are half the strength they were planned for because of this (4x over maximum capacity instead of 8x so still plenty of leeway.) This is one of the reasons semis and buses are prohibited on the bridge.

Edit: Wisconsin has flipped for Biden (went for Trump in 2016.) He needs three more.

Edit2: Michigan has also flipped for Biden (and also went for Trump in 2016.) Two more...
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Message 2060608 - Posted: 4 Nov 2020, 19:50:57 UTC

I had to show an ID to VOTE.

IOWs PROOF

I'm willing to give fingerprints to VOTE at Polling Station. Time fO INTEGRITY of VOTE.

My prints have been in FBI database fO 'bout 50 Years.

Sending in a BALLOT thru Mail with NO PROOF is FRAUGHT with.......

RUBEWorld KNOWs

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Message 2060618 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 1:13:29 UTC - in response to Message 2060601.  
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But I bet there are some high-rises in New York City built with cheaper, weaker cement than the architect specified - dumped out of an unmarked truck, round the back of the building site, at four in the morning. And I think I know someone who could think like that, and who has friends who could organise a scam like that.

That type of very vague public announcement from Trump sounds all-too-similar to the sort of vague rallying cry as broadcast from terrorist leaders, in the hope that disenfranchised loners with nothing to lose gain 'inspiration' from those vague words to perpetrate some random act of stupidity in their name...

Could the bags of cement allegory be interpreted as incitement to commit criminal acts against the vote counting?



Many New Yorkers would also know that a similar scam happened during the construction of the Brooklyn Bridge...

... This is one of the reasons semis and buses are prohibited on the bridge.

Indeed, greedy crimes do have consequences that others have to pay for...



Edit: Wisconsin has flipped for Biden (went for Trump in 2016.) He needs three more.

Edit2: Michigan has also flipped for Biden (and also went for Trump in 2016.) Two more...

Oooer!

We already have the daily/nightly COVID-19 count-up.

Can we survive the suspense and turmoil of the Trump count-down?!!!


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Message 2060619 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 1:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 2060608.  
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... Sending in a BALLOT thru Mail...

In a real democracy, ALL votes must be counted, fairly.


Trump has offered NO (zero, zilch) evidence of voter fraud. The only votes comments from Trump have been nothing but random Fake News to allow him to squirm in any and all directions!

Mmmmm, did he try to fake his home address for the sake of trying to vote twice to try to game some system or to demonstrate voting fraud? Regardless of his motives for the Mar-el-Largo address spoof silliness, that one quite rightly didn't work!


So: Where is there any evidence?

And why after so many years, is this newly a Trumped-up 'hot topic' now?...


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Message 2060628 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 5:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 2060619.  

Trump has offered NO (zero, zilch) evidence of voter fraud. The only votes comments from Trump have been nothing but random Fake News to allow him to squirm in any and all directions!

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2019-08/Report_Truth-About-Voter-Fraud.pdf
It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.
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Message 2060631 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 6:49:25 UTC

It's final and certified, Billable Hours won!
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Message 2060632 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 7:19:44 UTC

Just seen the news - It looks as if t.Rump's lawyers are on their way to making a profit.

Also what has happened about the news/rumour that Deutsche Bank are going to pull in all their loans etc. to t.Rump?
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Message 2060673 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 17:14:14 UTC

Not looking good for Trump
Maybe a manufacturer of "baby dummies" can assist him & his followers by handing out free samples. :-)
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Message 2060675 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 17:19:55 UTC

Along with the makers of diapers to soak up the inevitable leakage?
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Message 2060677 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 18:02:25 UTC - in response to Message 2060673.  
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Not looking good for Trump ...

As of the time of posting:

That's a good jump for Biden from 243 to now 253 units on the 'Electoral College' count.

However, the race is not done yet... There's still reality to unfold from that live update:

The BBC has been projecting results based on its own data. The latest estimates in the six remaining states that are yet to be projected are:

  • Arizona: Biden 50.5% Trump 48.1%
  • Georgia: Biden 49.2% Trump 49.6%
  • Nevada: Biden 49.3% Trump 48.7%
  • Pennsylvania: Biden 48.3% Trump 50.4%
  • North Carolina: Biden 48.7% Trump 50.1%
  • Alaska: Biden 33.0% Trump 62.9%


With those guesses, there's only Alaska that looks to be a dead certainty for Trump.

All the others are still anyone's guess!!


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Message 2060678 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 18:10:46 UTC - in response to Message 2060677.  
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Some outlets are already calling Arizona for Biden. The only other state he currently leads in, which will put him to exactly 270, is Nevada.

Edit: If it does come down to just Nevada, the outcome may not be decided conclusively and finally for five more days as Nevada law allows one week for delivery of all mail-in ballots, as long as they are postmarked on the day of the election Nov. 3rd.
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Message 2060686 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 19:06:06 UTC

SECOND SUPERTrump Term gunna Be MAGA Fantastic!!!!!

RUBEWorld is MAGAwesome

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Message 2060700 - Posted: 5 Nov 2020, 21:22:14 UTC
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Yep, this makes for MAGA-Awesome 'Reality TV', but for real!


YouTube - John King: If Trump loses here, he's done


For once for an American channel, that is a good clear summary of the gameplay as is at that moment.

So: The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is critical for Trump, no matter how many other states he might (or might not) win...



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Message 2060724 - Posted: 6 Nov 2020, 4:25:06 UTC

A question for all Americans.
How did you allow this to happen?
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Message 2060738 - Posted: 6 Nov 2020, 10:37:02 UTC
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Joe Biden has even taken an exceedingly narrow lead (currently 984 votes) in Georgia. The count continues.

So far, 63% of all ballots cast in this election were mail-in/absentee/drop box, with only 37% being traditional in-person. This is why the count is taking so long: state resources were simply overloaded in an unprecedented way. Democrat votes are disproportionately those mail-in/absentee/drop box votes for several reasons:

1) Trump cast doubt on the mail-in/absentee/drop box process for months before election day and encouraged Republican voters to use in-person voting
2) Trump made intimidating statements (ie telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by") and his militia followers stated they would possibly be "monitoring" polling places while armed, which Democrat voters would want to avoid via mail-in/absentee/drop box voting
3) Because Trump has downplayed the COVID-19 pandemic (ie holding gatherings/rallies whereas Biden and other Democrats have done the opposite and held no rallies), Democrat voters would also be more likely to use mail-in/absentee/drop box voting to avoid the risk of contracting or spreading COVID-19 at polling places

Thus, the Democrats have slowly made gains in the states still remaining.
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