The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean"

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Message 2123136 - Posted: 26 Jul 2023, 3:57:33 UTC

Michael Waldman, The Brennan Center for Justice wrote:
Donald Trump’s legal hot water continues to heat up. Special counsel Jack Smith sent a target letter to the former president last week, and an indictment could come within days.
Smith has reportedly notified Trump that he could be charged under three statutes. The most widely anticipated of the charges is for obstructing an official proceeding — Congress’s certification of the 2020 election results on January 6. A second charge, attempting to defraud the United States, likely relates to Trump’s collection of fake elector certificates, which he pressed Vice President Mike Pence to adopt in order to subvert the Electoral College.
These charges both relate directly to the events of January 6. But the third charge could go further. Smith reportedly will accuse Trump of violating Section 241 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, which makes it a crime to “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person . . . in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States.”
The provision, originally part of the Ku Klux Klan Acts of the Reconstruction era, aimed to protect Black voters from intimidation and physical violence. The KKK’s power has faded since then, but the law remains a vital safeguard against all forms of election subversion, as my colleague Sean Morales-Doyle explains. It has been used to prosecute public officials who attempted to omit valid ballots from a vote count as well as private actors who sought to coerce or bribe voters. Just this year, a Twitter user who gave deliberately false voting instructions to divert votes from Hillary Clinton in 2016 was convicted under Section 241.

KKK? How is Rump related to the KKK?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-fred-trump-detained-kkk-rally-circumstances-unclear/3209853001/
On Sept. 9, 2015 — three months after Trump announced his bid for president — the tech blog BoingBoing.net published a New York Times article from 1927 that reported that Donald Trump’s father, Fred Trump, had been detained at a KKK rally on Memorial Day weekend. According to the article, “1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighborhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested.”
Among those arrested, the article identifies a man with the name and address of the home of Trump’s father in Jamaica, Queens. The article details the charges filed against six of the men.

Now there is some irony.
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Message 2123193 - Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 12:54:10 UTC

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Message 2123196 - Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 12:59:16 UTC - in response to Message 2123193.  
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Undoing the lazy click-bait:

"Trump's visit to Newark causes some fuss on pilots!"

(Hopefully that very human ground controller doesn't get fired...)


All irksome stuff...

Only in the USA?!
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Message 2123224 - Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 23:32:58 UTC

The end game is coming for delusional Donny.

Read the new charges against Trump.

Trump accused of trying to delete the Mar-a-Lago server and wipe surveillance footage in bombshell new indictment: Ex-President hit with MORE charges and head of club's maintenance is also implicated in classified documents case.

Meanwhile he's still having a problem finding lawyers stupid enough to defend his delusions.

Trump struggling to find lawyers because he’s a “uniquely difficult client”.

Well you can't blame them as they don't want to face legal jeopardy over a crooked slime bag.

And what's with Mitch with and his falling down and freezing up episodes?

McConnell seeks to silence GOP speculation about his future.
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Message 2123262 - Posted: 28 Jul 2023, 14:04:55 UTC

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Message 2123317 - Posted: 29 Jul 2023, 19:04:22 UTC

The world's greatest loser, Delusional Donny, has raised the bar again with yet another loss.

Judge throws out Trump's lawsuit against CNN.

As a legal analyst reckons that Trump 'May Die in Prison' If He Doesn't Strike a Deal.
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Message 2123371 - Posted: 30 Jul 2023, 22:30:33 UTC

The crooked and delusionally deranged Donny is still trying his hardest to stay out of jail while still blaming everyone else for the position that he finds himself in.

Trump Calls Jack Smith 'Deranged,' Denies Security Tape Tampering Claims.

Trump’s PAC to Report Legal Expenses Exceeding $40 Million.

Rep. Schiff to Jen Psaki on Trump’s 'eye-popping' legal bills: He’s running 'to keep out of jail'.

Fox News Host Confronts Trump Lawyer With Grim Polling on Trump's Actions.

Judge Aileen Cannon hit by dozens of threats since taking on Trump's case.

Trump Predicts Two More Impending Indictments.

'An exercise in futility': Trump fake electors furious over being 'duped' by his people.

And I'll Willy to his statement.

Barr Says He'll 'Jump Off a Bridge' if Donald Trump Becomes the 2024 Republican Nominee.

Then there's the moronically stupid Mini Me and his drive to make sure that everyone in his state is dumber than him.

DeSantis 'Tripping Over' His Arrogance Amid Campaign Reset.

‘I’m not wanted’: Florida universities hit by brain drain as academics flee.

You know what would make good entertainment? Watching Donny and Mini Me sitting down in front of the cameras as they complete IQ tests followed by a year 4 end of year exam.
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Message 2123430 - Posted: 1 Aug 2023, 10:30:21 UTC

Another day and another loss for Donny.

Georgia judge rejects Trump bid to quash grand jury report, disqualify DA.

Meanwhile Donny needs more $'s from his mushrooms to pay legal costs as his PAC's maybe running a foul (but that shouldn't surprise anyone).

Trump’s New Legal Fund Is a Lean, Mean Grift Machine.

Trump PAC Broke Campaign Finance Laws—Former FEC Attorney.

Explainer-Can Trump use political donations to pay for legal defense?

As another of Donny's employees gets sucked into legal chaos.

Mar-a-Lago property manager is the latest in line of Trump staffers ensnared in legal turmoil.

And then there's the Donny's MAGA RINO investigation into Joe and his son that's going nowhere and has produced nothing, but the waste of time and $'s.

Devon Archer Turns Out to Be a Dud for Republicans.

While junior proves to be as delusional as his moronic father.

Trump Jr accuses Bidens of 'racketeering' after latest hearing falls flat.
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Message 2123456 - Posted: 1 Aug 2023, 20:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 2123430.  
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Washington Post says Special Council Jack Smith is making an announcement at 21:00 UTC (in ten minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAZaqPAdB8

edit] That worked well, we got 5 mins looking at the court house, then it just stopped saying this is private.
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Message 2123463 - Posted: 1 Aug 2023, 21:51:19 UTC
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Just in. Donny's been indicted on another four charges. More to come.

As it unfolds.
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Message 2123470 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 0:32:42 UTC
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Message 2123492 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 15:14:34 UTC

What a to-do!...


Donald Trump indictment: Why these charges are most serious ones yet
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The January 6th attack on the capitol was "fuelled by lies", said special counsel Jack Smith at his brief news conference. Donald Trump's lies...

... But will any of this matter to voters?

All over America I have met countless numbers of Trump supporters who appear to sincerely believe that Donald Trump really did get more votes than Joe Biden and was cheated out of office. That is one of the tenets of faith that solidifies his bedrock of support. How will these people react when they hear detailed evidence that Donald Trump knew there was no evidence of electoral fraud? That he was told again and again, by his trusted inner circle, that he had lost the election?

Can their faith withstand the weight of the evidence the prosecution will bring to court?...

... Its is such a cliché to describe events involving Donald Trump as "unprecedented".

But what other word is there is to describe the prospect of a US presidential candidate running a re-election campaign at the same time as being prosecuted for attempting to subvert the results of the last election?




How say The American People?

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Message 2123494 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 15:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 2123492.  

Many Americans, but certainly not all, have only one news source, and will never understand the evidence against Trump. Many others don't know anything about much of anything that goes on not only in the United States, but anywhere else as well. They just hear sound bites, and immediately believe them, as they are in line with what they want to think. Actual evidence will never get through to them. I deal with this at work, but not only for this particular situation, but many, many topics. It is extremely difficult to cut through the nonsense many of these people have been fed for so many years. When asked questions, they can't answer them and just refer to the talking points they may have heard. Fortunately, there are people who search for information, and care where it leads them. Unfortunately, there are not enough of these people.
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Message 2123549 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 17:32:03 UTC
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Huuuh, I've already asked this question in the gun violence forum: Was it always like this? Or is it a newer phenomenon that has arisen in the last 10...20 years. In the past, the media, newspapers and TV stations served to provide the population with neutral (the journalistic ethos) information. Newspapers had to earn credibility and readership through reliable, neutral reporting. This reputation had to be proven daily in order not to lose buyers (readers). In social coexistence in villages and towns, there were respected, prominent personalities who were better educated and often opinion leaders, such as pastors, judges, teachers, professors, lawyers, doctors, councilors and mayors... We took a wrong turn somewhere in the recent past, which has led to the current situation.
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Message 2123552 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 19:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 2123549.  

Huuuh, I've already asked this question in the gun violence forum: Was it always like this? Or is it a newer phenomenon that has arisen in the last 10...20 years. In the past, the media, newspapers and TV stations served to provide the population with neutral (the journalistic ethos) information. Newspapers had to earn credibility and readership through reliable, neutral reporting. This reputation had to be proven daily in order not to lose buyers (readers). In social coexistence in villages and towns, there were respected, prominent personalities who were better educated and often opinion leaders, such as pastors, judges, teachers, professors, lawyers, doctors, councilors and mayors... We took a wrong turn somewhere in the recent past, which has led to the current situation.

The problem is money. News sources can first tell people how to think, then continue to reinforce those ideas regardless of evidence otherwise. All the while attracting and holding viewers who want to think in the same way. It's big business selling people what they want. As an example, when Fox News first called Arizona for Biden, their viewers went berserk, and Tucker Carlson actually had a fit, and told the network that they were losing viewers because of a technically correct call, but that didn't match what viewers were told to think. In some cases, actual truth can be dangerous once people have been conditioned to accept a different reality. They built a business on distorted, or actually false news, and kept selling it. Follow the money.

Unfortunately, once the tiger of misinformation has been let loose, there is no (easy) way to put it back in the cage.
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Message 2123562 - Posted: 4 Aug 2023, 0:07:59 UTC

Donny's day went well (though he didn't like all the middle fingers he was given) as more dark clouds approach to rain on him.

Trump's day in court, an unusual proceeding before an unusual audience.

While his drunken little buddy may have inadvertently delivered more ammo to Donny's prosecution.

Giuliani hyped this video as 'smoking gun' for voter fraud – now it may land Trump in jail.

As another of Donny's traitorous crooks gets collared.

Pro-Trump Michigan attorney charged with 'accessing and tampering with voting machines'.

Will Pence and Hutchinson be the first to bow out?

Republican Party raising qualification bar for second presidential primary debate.

Meanwhile in Wisconsin the GOP's crooked cheating ways to stay in power with a minority maybe finally coming to an end.

America’s worst gerrymander may soon finally die.

There certainly will be more to come from crazy Donny's delusionally crookedly moronic MAGA RINO mob world.
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Message 2123573 - Posted: 4 Aug 2023, 1:35:05 UTC - in response to Message 2123562.  
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Giuliani hyped this video as 'smoking gun' for voter fraud – now it may land Trump in jail.


I still have my doubts he'll see a day of jail. He'll probably end up with some suspended sentence nonsense and continue as if nothing had happened. He may even be re-elected (and if he is will immediately pardon himself of every Federal charge, which is to say... everything worth anything) because although he tried to overthrow the federal government (among other things), Joe Biden despite leading a record-setting stock market and strong economy and passing two historic bills with unprecedented bipartisan support (plus many others) from his decades of experience, stammered and stumbled a couple of times (being 80 and all), and also has a (D) after his name so is clearly unfit for office. :^p

Wish I was kidding about the possibility of this coming to pass...
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Message 2123603 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 4:10:54 UTC

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Message 2123627 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 20:53:21 UTC

Delusional Donny just can't help himself (or his mouth), but he'll whinge about it anyway, as he's given a deadline of 5pm on Monday.

Judge Chutkan Gives Donald Trump New Deadline After Truth Social Threat.

Lock him up!
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Message 2123632 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 22:31:16 UTC

How long could we keep him alive for?

Trump is facing 561 years in prison over multiple criminal charges.

Just to make the most of all those years. ;-)
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