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Rethinking RFI algorithms
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David Anderson Send message Joined: 13 Feb 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 502,653 RAC: 0 |
Things have been a little crazy around here, what with the rapidly accelerating climate change eco-disaster and the political machinations of its instigators. The down-sizing of the SETI@home server complex is finally finished, and Eric is ramping back up on Nebula. A lot of my recent work involved getting the Nebula software to run on Atlas again. Atlas is in the process of upgrading their machines from Debian 8 to 10, and the system libraries changed in a non-backward-compatible way. Also the new machines don't have libraries we need (healpix and fitsio). I spent a while trying to get things to work with shared (.so) libraries. Eventually we gave up, got the latest sources, and built the libraries in static (.a) form. I spent several days trying to figure out a problem that turned out to be in our data - there were millions of copies of the same small set of detections, and the RFI removal code choked on that. Probably a bug in the assimilator. I fixed this by having "filter" limit the number of detections per result. After all this, I finally finished a complete run - RFI removal, scoring of 256K pixels - on the new (final) data set, which includes the last several years of results. Everything was a little slower, of course, but this was balanced by the speed of the 96-core Atlas machine we're using now. Eric looked at the results and found some pulse/triplet detections that should have been flagged as RFI, but weren't. We also noticed that some birdie detections (spikes) were being flagged as RFI, where they didn't look like RFI on the waterfall plots. This got us looking at RFI removal again. Currently there are three main algorithms. They have the same basic idea: find groups of detections that are separated in sky position but similar in other respects. They differ in terms of time scale:
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Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Not really expecting an answer to this (as it would obviously take the novelty off any paper or announcement), but are you seeing any consistent 'hotspots' in any regions of the sky from the complete run? |
Sesson Send message Joined: 29 Feb 16 Posts: 43 Credit: 1,353,463 RAC: 3 |
I don't think anything would be found right now. Learned from Zooniverse projects, telescopes have some error aiming at the target, resulting in an offset of one or two pixels among images taken for the same target at different times. What's more, if ET is near the Earth, for example 20pc, their proper motion over 20 years would be significant, and I haven't seen any model about that in Nebula code. |
Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Excellent point about the drift of stellar position. Presumably not an issue for targeted observations of the same star over time, but could certainly affect basket-weave scans. You might also expect the search sensitivity to improve over time, as new equipment comes along, and I'm unaware whether that has been considered. I suspect these data will be analysed and re-analysed for years to come as new ideas and algorithms come along. Hopefully, there's something in there just waiting to be discovered.... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22535 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The data collected by SETI is nowhere near the same as that used for the Zooniverse work as it uses radio telescopes unlike the visible light used for the Zooniverse work; the exact position of the two radio telescopes used to feed SETI@Home has been very well calibrated over the years. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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