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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30971 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://apnews.com/668bb0219afcc086376c9d56685ab9d0 SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A broken cable caused severe damage at Puerto Rico’s Arecibo Observatory, causing a suspension of operations for one of the world’s largest single-dish radio telescopes, officials said Tuesday. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Oh dear... That sounds very disruptive and expensive... Were there insufficient repairs or additional unknown damage from the last big hurricane that hit them? Here's hoping there is some magic for a full repair! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Further detail from Scott Manley: YouTube: Snapped Cable Damages Arecibo Observatory Radio Telescope wrote: ... On Monday night a support cable snapped and fell into the reflector dish, damaging the reflector panels, it also crashed into the side of the gregorian dome which includes the secondard and tertiary reflectors. Here's hoping this is a wake-up to gain proper funding for full repairs and continued operation! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Another cable has snapped at the Arecibo Observatory, damaging the dish further. https://astronomynow.com/2020/11/08/aericibo-radio-telescope-suffers-additional-damage-from-second-cable-failure/ Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
Another cable has snapped at the Arecibo Observatory, damaging the dish further. More information here https://www.ucf.edu/news/a-second-cable-fails-at-nsfs-arecibo-observatory-in-puerto-rico/ |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Another cable has snapped at the Arecibo Observatory, damaging the dish further. Here's hoping they can catch up with the repairs before any further damage! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22492 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Let's hope they do a thorough inspection of all the other cables as I'd hate to see them replace the two broken ones, take up the strain and have another couple fail. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
The NYTimes says that Arecibo is beyond repairs and will be shut down. But its data will remain. Tullio |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The NYTimes says that Arecibo is beyond repairs and will be shut down. But its data will remain. This is newly being discussed over in the Cafe... See: Message 2061782 Very sad indeed! Do we have anything to replace it? Or any comparable capability? Keeo searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22492 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Parkes, GBT, Lovell to start with and they are all steerable, which Arecibo wasn't so in one sense exceed Arecibo's capabilities even if they are a bit less sensitive. For fixed telescopes there's the FAST in China, which is slightly bigger and thus probably a little bit more sensative For arrays there's the SKA, e-Merlin and another one I can't think of its name (Keith where are you?), these should all be much more sensitive, but getting time on them will be difficult for targetted observations, but for general surveys they should be just as good, and depending on their viewing horizon should cover new parts of the sky That said Arecibo was the first, and for many years the only source used by SETI@Home. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30971 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Now we know its dead Jim. We also know the last W/U of collected data was sent out. Nothing more to come. Other researchers will have to design a new search using new telescopes. |
Yavanius Send message Joined: 8 Jul 99 Posts: 50 Credit: 249,309 RAC: 0 |
Farewell Arecibo... 57 years of science and memories... https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21575025/arecibo-observatory-puerto-rico-decommission-structural-collapse-cable-break |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
VLBA (Very Large Baseline Array) New Mexico. Canberra Deep Space What will be most missed from Arecibo is its use as a radar transmitter probably excluding its sensitivity features. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Ghery S. Pettit Send message Joined: 7 Nov 99 Posts: 325 Credit: 28,109,066 RAC: 82 |
I saw the news about Arecibo earlier today. I'm glad I got a chance to go out on the platform in 2005. It was (still is for now) an incredible place. what will replace it, if anything? |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
There is ALMA in Chile, although at different wavelengths, and Sardinia in Sardegna with a 70 meters dish with smart focusing. Also Effelsberg in Germany with a 100 meters dish. But I think they are not interested in SETI. Tullio |
pavlos Send message Joined: 5 Apr 03 Posts: 29 Credit: 90,415,610 RAC: 249 |
Just read this morning the Arecibo Radiotelescope is to be demolished. A cable failed in Aug, another in November, causing structural damage. Sad ... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22492 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Some background to the exact nature of the failure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEe4Wlc5Vp0&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=9GvbKIGEq7Fgauud%3A6 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Cavalary Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 7,507,548 RAC: 38 |
Basically what the title says, just struck me as oddly fitting to see that announcement that Arecibo will be torn down now, the same year that SETI@home got shut down (er, mothballed, if you must). Actually came here yesterday looking for the thread I expected to find about it, but found none. Surprised at that. |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
Doesn't Einstein@Home ALSO use Arecibo??? (Or, at least I thought they did at one time....) TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21099 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Doesn't Einstein@Home ALSO use Arecibo??? IIRC: Yes, for their pulsars search. They may even have used the data from the s@h data recorder! Keep searchin'! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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