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 Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36800 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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. . What have I done wrong to offend the server Gods, I still am getting nothing, nada, zilch!Now here's a thought Stephen, at Seti I use separate Home/Work venues with a 3 day + 0.1 cache set on both of my rigs, but my other projects just use my general preference settings which is set to a 1 day + 0.1 cache so I always have room for more Seti work. So what are you doing with yours? Cheers. |
Stephen "Heretic"     Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628
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. . What have I done wrong to offend the server Gods, I still am getting nothing, nada, zilch!Now here's a thought Stephen, at Seti I use separate Home/Work venues with a 3 day + 0.1 cache set on both of my rigs, but my other projects just use my general preference settings which is set to a 1 day + 0.1 cache so I always have room for more Seti work. So what are you doing with yours? . . I am running at 0.49 plus 0.0 so I do not get flooded with WCG tasks on the CPU. E@H is on 0% resource share so it just gets one at a time leaving heaps of room for SETI work @ 100% share. E@H runs as location 'School'. Stephen . . |
betreger   Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 
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They say today the lockdown here will remain until May 10 at least. Juan this is like living in a bad science fiction movie and we are the stars. |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304
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Juan this is like living in a bad science fiction movie and we are the stars.Still, it's better than it could have been. Imagine a virus with the mortality rate of Ebola (50%. Covid-19, 2-3%), and the infection rate of Measles (12-20. Covid-19, 2.3 or so). Grant Darwin NT |
juan BFP  Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 
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Juan this is like living in a bad science fiction movie and we are the stars.Still, it's better than it could have been. You are so optimistic. :) 
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Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628
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Juan this is like living in a bad science fiction movie and we are the stars.Still, it's better than it could have been. . . Now that would be a bad Sci-Fi(?)/horror movie. We would literally be swamped in dead bodies ... Stephen < shudder > |
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Cavalary Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 7,507,548 RAC: 38 
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That is hard to have in practice though, as a very deadly virus has a hard time spreading too much. Would probably need a very long symptom-free period during which it is nevertheless very contagious. Back on topic though, 60 more WUs, 58 of them at once today, taking me back to a full cache of 150, so there'd have been more at that time. I might just hit 7.5M after all with these, really didn't think it. These early resends sure are doing their job though. Had 51 pending validation, stuck like that from the start of the month till the floodgates opened a few days ago. Now it's down to 6. |
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36800 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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I was about to say that my 3570K rig has had pretty much nothing and then 104 GPU tasks turned up for it, but what can 1 say?Well it just got 216 taking its total to 537 now for my day. Cheers. |
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Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628
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I was about to say that my 3570K rig has had pretty much nothing and then 104 GPU tasks turned up for it, but what can 1 say?Well it just got 216 taking its total to 537 now for my day. . . Quick, where's the bucket .... . . mumble, grumble , mutter . . So who did you pay off then? Stephen :( |
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juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799
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Powering down 1/2 of the GPU's and the rest down to 1/4 of impuse. Still few WU to serve (371) but that could be done during the sleeping hours. Drinking the last one of the night & Good night all.
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36800 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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I'm back to doing Seti CPU tasks on all 4 of 2500K cores and letting the GPU's take a break until some time after sunset and the outside temp takes a dive. I've got about 3hrs of GPU work left on the 3570K and then I'll set it to do the same as the 2500K. Cheers. |
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juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799
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My last 4 cpu WU are ending in few minutes. After that all gone. The end of an era. Is a very sad day for me. R.I.P S@H.
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
My last 4 cpu WU are ending in few minutes. After that all gone. +1 I would keep at least 1 S@H system idling even if it not 24/7. Not only are we still getting resends but that will help you notice if S@H becomes active again on another project. A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Hi Stephen, Yeah, I forgot my laptop has a Pentium. I knew it was dual core. ;) EXACTLY!!! That is what I keep asking and Ian just shuts me down saying I asked something illogical or some such crap. He says the host isn't spoofed, but I beg to differ. It would NOT be getting the tasks it gets and would not have the "In progress" quantity it has if it was not spoofed. As I also keep telling him, I get no more than 300, now, at any given time, I'm not going to get 737 with a limit of 300 because I have only 2 GPUs. I highly doubt that the 2 GPUs on that host are running THAT much faster than my 1660Tis or even if they do run faster. I suppose that overclocking the GPUs could come into play for speed. In my opinion, that owner should be a little kinder to the rest of us and set NNT and let the rest of us get a few more than getting some every couple 3 or 4 days or whatever. Yesterday I saw that SETI had 6K+ tasks RTS and I had some tasks to report so I hit the update button and got nothing but a 30 minute comms back off. A minute later the RTS was down to 2 I believe it was. I just had a thought: Would over setting the "Store at least [x] days of work" and "Store up to an additional [x] days of work" allow that many more tasks? Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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And last, you say the host in question is NOT spoofed. I beg to differ! Yeah, it figures, you're ONLY going to respond to a meager part of what I put in that paragraph in the post. Or, because the first 2 sentences were not in agreement with you, you decided NOT to finish the paragraph and respond ONLY to that. And the other one you responded with a canned response "just bad luck...". I KNOW what spoofing is "in this context". The rest of that paragraph had values that are ONLY consistent with a spoofed rig. I asked you to explain to me how it is getting a spoofed quantity of tasks if it is not spoofed. Of course you're not going to tell me; perhaps it's a trade secret of the GPU UG. Who knows? I don't which is why I ask. Oh but then the GPU UG won't deal with pions like me just because I know nothing of programming and such. Which is why I have to keep asking stuff here because of bad memory and such. And you keep responding with "you already know that; I told you 10 times already". Explain to me how that host has 20K+ in progress if it is NOT SPOOFED! L8er CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Kissagogo27  Send message Joined: 6 Nov 99 Posts: 716 Credit: 8,032,827 RAC: 62 
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personnal hosts for comparison ;) P4 630 3ghz Pentium 4 dual core
E7600 3.06Ghz Core2 Duo dual core
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Ian&Steve C.  Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640
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He’s using a different method, which is not device count spoofing, hence... it’s not spoofed. Have a great day! Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours  
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juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799
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I KNOW what spoofing is "in this context". The rest of that paragraph had values that are ONLY consistent with a spoofed rig. I asked you to explain to me how it is getting a spoofed quantity of tasks if it is not spoofed. Of course you're not going to tell me; perhaps it's a trade secret of the GPU UG. Who knows? I don't which is why I ask. Oh but then the GPU UG won't deal with pions like me just because I know nothing of programming and such. Which is why I have to keep asking stuff here because of bad memory and such. And you keep responding with "you already know that; I told you 10 times already". Explain to me how that host has 20K+ in progress if it is NOT SPOOFED! @Siran I always respect respect each one opinions but there is a line you can't cross. You can't speak wrong things about our beloved team. And that i and certainly the others members wish you to respect. For the last time, GPUUG is a team like any other on the Setiverse, yes we are the top team if you look the crunching numbers and some of our members are too, i see nothing wrong with that. But you could see we have mates who has very low RAC without any problem. We are a small bunch of highly dedicated guy's from a lot of different countries and what we have in common is a highly commitment to the Seti cause. Just that. We not have "trade secrets" or anything "obscure" as you wrongly suggest. Yes we are a closed team, but are open to any seti citizen who fill some rules. This rules are simple and clearly exposed on the team page. Mainly be a GPU cruncher, be a S@H supporter, have a participation in the forums and principally be a nice guy. We don't care about any one RAC or crunching power. What we from the GPUUG do different from most of the rest was develop a Boinc client (we called The Pandora Box) who has a lot of new functions and bugs corrected derivative from the "open source code" available to anyone use in the Github DB. But that is not a GPUUG privilege, others do the same and uses their private client in the same manner. The initial idea was to give the user full control of what and how he wish to use his host, and that is exactly what it does. One of the Pandora functions, there are a lot of others, is control the host limits. Any limits, including the WU limits. But when we notice it's potential to crash the Seti DB we decide to not to share it since we can't control it's wrong use outside our team boundaries. BTW Pandora is compatible with any Boinc project so the responsibility is even greater. I'm sure anyone who see what happening in the last December when the WU limits was rised could understand why we take that decision. Remember: With great power comes great responsibilities. About your repeated question about those who have large caches, there are several ways to bypass the WU limit, spoofing is only one of them, i personalty know 5 but knows there are others. All are well documented and available to anyone who has a minimum interest use. Sure you know something called google. There are inclusive some videos posted on YouTube who tell you how to do that. So they are nothing to do with any "trade secret" from GPUUG. You has the right to be against but there are here and open to anyone use. So stop blaming us for something we not done. I still not understand why you are so obsess with this particular host when are a lot others, not from our team, anonymous with larger caches. But about this particular host. I agree with Ian this host not spoofing the GPU's, he has 2 GPU's and shows 2 so no spoofing at all period. Obviously he use a way to bypass the WU limits. But i not see why he need to share how he do with anyone, specially if you keep claiming about him. One last point, with the constant extra wingmen been generated, large caches lost it's meaning since most of their WU crunching times will be lost in the Black Hole only wasting crunching and electric power for nothing. Live Long & Prosper
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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HI Juan, My apologies. I was not blaming GPUUG, I just used it as an example for why Ian refuses to explain what I was seeking to understand. That's it. As for Github and stuff like that, I'm not privy to its use or what it does and really not that interested. Every time I see the name "Github" I think programming. I'm not a programmer. And so, despite Ian's lack of explaining what I wanted to understand, you have done it in your post and I thank you. :) Again, my apologies and have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640
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what happens when you use freely available tools such as Jeff Bucks SETI rescheduler to move all your GPU tasks over to the CPU? your schedule request says you have no GPU tasks, how does the server respond? --it gives you more! what happens when the server sends you work but they get deleted/moved/"ghosted" by your system for whatever reason, your schedule request says you have no GPU tasks, how does the server respond? --it gives you more! neither of these methods are "spoofing" Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours
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