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Message 2042859 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 0:39:11 UTC

The Italian based BOINC project tn-grid http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/ is doing gene extensions on SARS-CoV-2: http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=265&postid=1731#1731

CPU only, but it works great!
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Message 2042966 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 18:01:38 UTC

I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Sam Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
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Message 2043518 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 15:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 2042966.  

I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Sam Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
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Sounds interesting, thanks ! Goes live in about 80 minutes (scheduyled for 1 pm pacific time, 15h utc, today)
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Message 2044133 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 0:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 2039956.  

I joined scienceunited.org...

It appears as it's in its infancy (for breaking down projects and the credits you earn and whatnot) but so far I have WU from many projects...all my machines are plugging away
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Message 2044134 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 0:19:54 UTC - in response to Message 2039986.  
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So your posting for people to go to another "project" you're involved in called Science United? A little biased isn't it?

I'll stick with Rosetta or F@H directly then.


scienceunited draws from MANY projects...supporting all of em together..it's automatic and each computer assists

https://scienceunited.org/su_about.php
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Message 2044155 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 1:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 2042966.  
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I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Saul Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
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Fixed that for you I think. :^)
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Message 2044897 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 8:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 2040054.  

Seti is not closing for good it is simply being halted for the time being to clear 20 years worth of results. And then rethink how we proceed after that. The blunt facts are that if we haven't found anything in 20 years "For whatever reason",,

1. There is nothing to find
2. ET doesn't want to be found
3. We are not looking in the right place
4. We aren't looking for the right type of signal
5. Our algorithms aren't up to the task.

How likely are we to find anything in the next 20 years, carrying on as we are?

There are currently 49 Boinc projects and 13 non-Boinc Distributed Computing projects.. They cover a multi discipline range of work from, maths, science, medicine and space and & Earth sciences.

Yes, the announcement could have been handled less clumsily, and with a gentle forewarning, of what might be necessary, but that is by the by. Seti may have become to some a way of life like a religion or creed, but it is simply a successful scientific project, that is taking a much needed break. No need for hand wringing or angst.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects



stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
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Message 2044903 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 8:52:09 UTC - in response to Message 2044897.  

stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
I think you'll find that they build new accelerators, built new detectors, upgraded the new accelerator...

They didn't just go on using the same tools, again and again and again. They paused the old experiment, improved it, tried again - and found it in the end.
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Message 2044922 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 9:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 2044903.  

Thankyou Richard, that is exactly what I was alluding to.

By analysing those 20 years of results we may very well find that a particular portion of sky gets more positive results than elsewhere. At present S@H piggybacks on others dish data, wherever they happen to be pointing as we don't have our own. Nebula, when it happens, might give us a clue as to where to point. Then we could fund some dedicated dish time to explore further.

Erics update was simply that they had enough data for the time being to begin further analysis.
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Message 2044925 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 9:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 2044903.  

stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
I think you'll find that they build new accelerators, built new detectors, upgraded the new accelerator...

They didn't just go on using the same tools, again and again and again. They paused the old experiment, improved it, tried again - and found it in the end.


i know, i just mean, to stop it because there isnt found anything in 20 years, is no reason.

to rethink how to serch is a good Point to go on
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Message 2044942 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 12:11:30 UTC

Is SETI@Home done, or just for now? Joined Science United this morning, but liked the idea of SETI work.
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Message 2044973 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 14:37:05 UTC - in response to Message 2044942.  
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Is SETI@Home done, or just for now? Joined Science United this morning, but liked the idea of SETI work.

This well organized project is extremely underfunded and does this global thing with a workforce of two or three people. Now they have a master database full of "detections" (as David calls them now) from twenty years of observations with the Arecibo telescope. In these twenty years, the team constantly chased the rapidly growing computing power of the clients, struggled with overloaded servers etc. The data volume multiplied with the MultiBeam receiver in Arecibo. In the end, the guys at Berkeley were extremely skilled at keeping the project running with inadequate and aging servers and dozens of everyday problems. Some powerful servers (graciously donated and paid for by users) saved the whole thing a few years ago.
This meant that developers and astronomers were maintaining the servers almost around the clock. There was never time or money to develop a sufficiently powerful backend to scientifically evaluate the collected "detections" from twenty years.
There has been a clear plan for this for some time now and great progress. David calls it "Nebula: the Seti@home backend.

further reading: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/nebula/web/

The team was given the opportunity to use a sufficiently large supercomputer by the founder of the Einstein@home project, Bruce Allen (ATLAS cluster, Hanover, Germany). In order to concentrate fully on the development, testing, etc. of the backend, and to minimize everyday server maintenance tasks, no new telescope data has been sent to Seti@home clients since March 31st. Their goal now is a detailed evaluation of 20 years of Seti@home and its scientific publication.

Afterwards there are hopefully lessons learned and many new exciting ideas for a Seti@home II (more telescopes, telescopes in the southern hemisphere, novel detection algorithms, ...). Who knows ...

Please keep the Seti project active in your BOINC client to get the message someday we are all waiting for: That a new voyage begins...

... to boldly go where no man has gone before!
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Message 2049517 - Posted: 17 May 2020, 18:13:06 UTC

There is another interesting project about Covid-19: https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/ from hard hit Spain.

There goal is to investigate, if some of the known viral medication might work as well on Covid-19.

They might need some love.
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Message 2049531 - Posted: 17 May 2020, 22:49:37 UTC

I am volunteer at World Community Grid too, since 2020-05-15 my computers started to receive tasks from a new sub-project named Open Pandemics Covid-19.
Tasks are not long, computing is going without any problems on AMD and Intel CPUs, nice screensaver...
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Message 2049538 - Posted: 18 May 2020, 1:18:54 UTC

I like the Rosetta@home screensaver although I don't know what it says, except that I am a member of the SETI orphans team.
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Message 2050038 - Posted: 22 May 2020, 10:41:51 UTC - in response to Message 2039956.  

Will Seti@Home ever resume processing again or is it to be replaced by some other Investigative body?
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Message 2050043 - Posted: 22 May 2020, 11:33:33 UTC

This has already been answered:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85267&postid=2035163
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