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Message 2041041 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 9:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 2040895.  

What exactly does "credit screw" mean?
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Message 2041043 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 10:03:39 UTC - in response to Message 2041041.  

What exactly does "credit screw" mean?
It's the term often used here at Seti for Credit New- which was a change in the way credit is awarded for work done which resulted in people getting a lot less Credit (a lot less) then they did before Credit New was brought in. AFAIK most other BOINC projects don't use it for that reason.
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Message 2041114 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 17:24:13 UTC

I still think the title of this thread is very misleading as there is no Seti@Home and COVID-19.
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Message 2041115 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 17:24:28 UTC
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Finally I got a minirosetta_3.7 task on a Linux box running in Science United. Also a Rosetta@home on a Windows 10 PC, also in Science United.
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Message 2041119 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 17:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 2041118.  
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The purpose of this thread (as I understand it) was to highlight that there are BOINC projects out there that are researching this virus, that Setizens might wish to consider after the 31st March.

No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures.

SETI@home will stop distributing tasks soon, but we encourage you to continue donate computing power to science research - in particular, research on the COVID-19 virus. The best way to do this is to join Science United and check the "Biology and Medicine" box.

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Message 2041141 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 19:02:48 UTC

I am running two Rosetta@home tasks , one in Windows 10 and the other in the Tumbleweed development version of OpenSuSE Linux. I know very well that I won't get any credit, only a weekly mail of thanks sent by a BoincAdmin.
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Message 2041152 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 19:59:22 UTC

"No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures."

I agree and really did not appreciate it.
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Message 2041281 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 10:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 2041276.  

Many are finding Science United a duff idea. If you want to support a project helping Covid-19 try Folding at Home as many Setizens are, and have decided to do. Yes it is non-Boinc, so what?
Or just attach directly to Rosetta as Wiggo suggested.
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Message 2041328 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 14:58:28 UTC

One feature of Science United which I appreciate is the listing of CPU hours and GPU hours used by a project. One can immediately see which projects use GPUs and those which do not, also their relative weight in hours.
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Message 2041331 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 15:22:12 UTC - in response to Message 2041036.  

Meanwhile, people were asking why no results after 10 years, then 15 years, and finally almost 20 years. In 2017 DA wrote a report that said that Seti@home was simply an experiment, and like all experiments, it should have a beginning and an end, and a conclusion. His report said that after 18 years, they hadn't found anything, and were just collecting data and doing nothing with it. In his view the original experiment was over. DA proposed a project called Nebula which introduced a new back end, which would use the Atlas cluster at Hanover. However, 3 years later the software isn't ready despite help from Eric K.

The Admins can see that there is no point in continuing on as we are for another 20 years. We may have already found evidence of ET, but until we look in depth at the results, we won't know that. So three reasons for the mothballing, To look deeper at results already got, Lack of money, Lack of staff. It also could be said there are too many people using Seti as social media like Twitter or Facebook etc. We are supposed to be a scientific research program, not ranting about politics.

Remember an interview with someone from SETI years ago, might have been on The Guardian (but not sure), which included an estimate that something will be found in the first half of the 2020s, with hints coming at most a couple of years before the breakthrough, if it won't be completely sudden, so it seems like there was no expectation of a result earlier anyway. And that's entirely reasonable, and I'd call even this extremely optimistic.
As for what the project became for many, it is what it is, sometimes you should take a project where it goes instead of where it was "supposed" to be.
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Message 2041339 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 15:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 2039957.  

That is exactly what I am going to do when one of my machines finishes the existing SETI work. My other machine will keep running SETI until April 1st.
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Message 2041563 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 9:50:20 UTC

Sadly WCG doesn't make WU for covid-19...
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Message 2041585 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 11:57:09 UTC - in response to Message 2039957.  

Or just attach directly to Rosetta@home. ;-)

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Message 2041589 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 2040934.  

Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides.


Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there?

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Message 2041590 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:18:09 UTC
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I will switch to rosetta@home the 1st of april, glad that new wu comes laten on seti@home.
In June i will celebrate 5 years of crunching for seti@home, it will not be the case.
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Message 2041593 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:25:10 UTC - in response to Message 2041589.  

Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides.
Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there?
Depends whether you count Breakthrough Listen...

It's noticeable that the co-operation between BL and SaH has been terminated, for the time being at least - no more BLC tapes being added to the SSP. On one level, that makes sense - the purpose of the hibernation is to free up resources for the 20-year analysis, and we don't yet have 20 years of comparable BLC records. But on the other hand, I think it's on the record that the SaH algorithm provides the most sensitive signal processing of all the SETI projects. The others are more "never mind the quality, feel the width". It would be good to find a way of injecting the SaH signal processing technology into the other data sources, irrespective of whether it's done at the telescope, in the lab, or 'at home'.
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Message 2041613 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 14:31:41 UTC

been a cruncher on and off since 1999. Sorry to see its over.......that is all.
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Message 2041904 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 8:10:45 UTC
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Message 2041906 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 8:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 2041904.  

Try my new COVID-19 Monitor here https://windows10gadgets.pro/toolsandutils/coronavirus/coronavirus.html
Why use an app when there's a perfectly good website to checkout the numbers?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Or does it warn you if you catch it?

Cheers.
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Message 2041911 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 9:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 2041906.  
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Small gadget on desktop maybe more comfortable no? BTW, I just post information. Use it or not is your decide
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