SETI@home and COVID-19

Message boards : News : SETI@home and COVID-19
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8466
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 2041914 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 9:25:42 UTC

I have no connection with UC Berkeley and don't know its intentions. But on the Berkeley Online Newsletter which I receive there is an article on a very ambitious project together with San Diego UC, Harvard U and Caltech to start a search for ETI in the optical range using a network of telescopes with 80 mirrors each. It is called PANOSETI and the first two telescopes are installed at Lick Observatory.
Tullio
ID: 2041914 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile mohavewolfpup
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Oct 18
Posts: 32
Credit: 3,666,574
RAC: 24
United States
Message 2041916 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 9:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 2041914.  

Took a look at their website, seems interesting but over my head as always.

What little I could glean (guess?) from it, seems like it's almost looking for light sources?

Would it be fair to say it's almost like training a telescope at the sky as a plane flies over ahead with it's navigation lights and that's what they are looking for? Horribly oversimplified, but best I can think of
Historian for the Defunct Riviera Hotel and Casino, Former Classic Seti@home user for Team Art Bell. Greetings from the High Desert!
ID: 2041916 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8466
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 2041959 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 13:06:55 UTC
Last modified: 31 Mar 2020, 13:07:36 UTC

The Lick Observatory was in danger of being shut down, like Arecibo and other older astrononomical observatories, in order to save money needed by new telescopes like the JWST. Now it looks like they found a useful job for it. On the latest CERN Courier there is an article about the works in progress on the Extremely Large Telescope of the Eurpean Southern Observatory on the Atacama Highland in Chile. It has a 30 meters main mirror and should be completed by 2025.
Tullio
ID: 2041959 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Buckeye4LF Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 19 Jun 00
Posts: 173
Credit: 54,916,209
RAC: 833
United States
Message 2042004 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 15:53:12 UTC

For those wanting to do Covid-19 tasks, use Rosetta@home if you still want to use the BOINC umbrella. I would say 75%-100% of tasks I am pulling are Covid-19 related. It should be noted that Rosetta is RAM intensive and can use up to 2GB RAM per CPU job. Unfortunately, the project does not support GPUs.

ID: 2042004 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Craig

Send message
Joined: 5 Feb 14
Posts: 2
Credit: 3,111,686
RAC: 17
United States
Message 2042008 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 16:15:40 UTC

I've already switched to Rosetta@Home and respect the work they're doing. I just today (2020-03-31) read the recommendation to run Science United so I took another look at their site, but, as this is my computer and I pay the bill for the electricity I'll choose the projects to run. I didn't like the socialist nature of SU deciding for me and don't like the haughty attitude towards SETI's way of running a project, and I don't care for the "dumbing down" attitude of the user interface. I'm not in a competition with other users, but I do like to see a record of my progress, and I'm glad to see folks with more resources doing more work towards a common goal.
Craig
ID: 2042008 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Pierre A Renaud
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 3 Apr 99
Posts: 994
Credit: 9,101,544
RAC: 65
Canada
Message 2042162 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 2:46:47 UTC - in response to Message 2041563.  

Sadly WCG doesn't make WU for covid-19...
Not in the short term, at any rate.
Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020
ID: 2042162 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14391
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 2042601 - Posted: 2 Apr 2020, 19:05:38 UTC

I've just been talking with a couple of the guys from World Community Grid. They're gearing up to host this project on the WCG platform:

https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2020/20200401-OpenPandemics-covid19.html

They're in the middle of "capacity planning" - expecting anything up to 10x their normal volume of work, what with SETI closing and everything. In spite of that, they might have some Beta apps in a couple of weeks, and maybe full production in a couple of months. Expected to be CPU only - WCG can handle GPUs and would be willing to host GPU apps - but it's up to Scripps to do the basic scientific programming, then WCG adapt it for the BOINC platform.
ID: 2042601 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14391
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 2042734 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 7:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 2042717.  

I'm pretty sure it will be on the existing WCG platform, presumably as a new sub-project. You may have to change your preferences on any existing account.
ID: 2042734 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile doublechaz

Send message
Joined: 17 Nov 00
Posts: 87
Credit: 76,455,865
RAC: 735
United States
Message 2042745 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 10:32:53 UTC

I'm putting most of my work towards Distributed.Net. They were up and running 2 years before Seti@home. They support CPU and GPU, and the resource footprint is microscopic, except of course the cycles. But it is about Crypto Freedom and research math.
ID: 2042745 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile RichardET Project Donor

Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 99
Posts: 6
Credit: 8,366,309
RAC: 12
United States
Message 2042777 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 14:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 2042008.  

Go with this:

https://join.worldcommunitygrid.org/?recruiterId=1107060
ID: 2042777 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
klepel

Send message
Joined: 8 Jun 10
Posts: 17
Credit: 31,137,164
RAC: 41
Peru
Message 2042859 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 0:39:11 UTC

The Italian based BOINC project tn-grid http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/ is doing gene extensions on SARS-CoV-2: http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=265&postid=1731#1731

CPU only, but it works great!
ID: 2042859 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8466
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 2042966 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 18:01:38 UTC

I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Sam Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
Tullio
ID: 2042966 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Pierre A Renaud
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 3 Apr 99
Posts: 994
Credit: 9,101,544
RAC: 65
Canada
Message 2043518 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 15:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 2042966.  

I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Sam Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
Tullio
Sounds interesting, thanks ! Goes live in about 80 minutes (scheduyled for 1 pm pacific time, 15h utc, today)
Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020
ID: 2043518 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile The Jedi Alliance - ^WarHawk^

Send message
Joined: 25 Jun 99
Posts: 29
Credit: 33,205,318
RAC: 77
United States
Message 2044133 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 0:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 2039956.  

I joined scienceunited.org...

It appears as it's in its infancy (for breaking down projects and the credits you earn and whatnot) but so far I have WU from many projects...all my machines are plugging away
ID: 2044133 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile The Jedi Alliance - ^WarHawk^

Send message
Joined: 25 Jun 99
Posts: 29
Credit: 33,205,318
RAC: 77
United States
Message 2044134 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 0:19:54 UTC - in response to Message 2039986.  
Last modified: 11 Apr 2020, 0:24:12 UTC

So your posting for people to go to another "project" you're involved in called Science United? A little biased isn't it?

I'll stick with Rosetta or F@H directly then.


scienceunited draws from MANY projects...supporting all of em together..it's automatic and each computer assists

https://scienceunited.org/su_about.php
ID: 2044134 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Mr. Kevvy Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 May 99
Posts: 3280
Credit: 1,114,826,392
RAC: 3,319
Canada
Message 2044155 - Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 1:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 2042966.  
Last modified: 11 Apr 2020, 1:47:42 UTC

I've read on the Berkeley Online Newsletter that on April 7 Nobel prizewinner Saul Perlmutter will host a TV conference in Berkeley on the problems of data processing posed by COVID-19. I intend to attend.
Tullio


Fixed that for you I think. :^)
ID: 2044155 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Hartbeat

Send message
Joined: 15 Jul 99
Posts: 2
Credit: 10,818,054
RAC: 88
Germany
Message 2044897 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 8:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 2040054.  

Seti is not closing for good it is simply being halted for the time being to clear 20 years worth of results. And then rethink how we proceed after that. The blunt facts are that if we haven't found anything in 20 years "For whatever reason",,

1. There is nothing to find
2. ET doesn't want to be found
3. We are not looking in the right place
4. We aren't looking for the right type of signal
5. Our algorithms aren't up to the task.

How likely are we to find anything in the next 20 years, carrying on as we are?

There are currently 49 Boinc projects and 13 non-Boinc Distributed Computing projects.. They cover a multi discipline range of work from, maths, science, medicine and space and & Earth sciences.

Yes, the announcement could have been handled less clumsily, and with a gentle forewarning, of what might be necessary, but that is by the by. Seti may have become to some a way of life like a religion or creed, but it is simply a successful scientific project, that is taking a much needed break. No need for hand wringing or angst.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects



stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
ID: 2044897 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14391
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 2044903 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 8:52:09 UTC - in response to Message 2044897.  

stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
I think you'll find that they build new accelerators, built new detectors, upgraded the new accelerator...

They didn't just go on using the same tools, again and again and again. They paused the old experiment, improved it, tried again - and found it in the end.
ID: 2044903 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Hartbeat

Send message
Joined: 15 Jul 99
Posts: 2
Credit: 10,818,054
RAC: 88
Germany
Message 2044925 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 9:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 2044903.  

stop after 20 years wile not finding something…… What do y mean everyone stoped serching the Higgs-Boson after 20 years ???
I think you'll find that they build new accelerators, built new detectors, upgraded the new accelerator...

They didn't just go on using the same tools, again and again and again. They paused the old experiment, improved it, tried again - and found it in the end.


i know, i just mean, to stop it because there isnt found anything in 20 years, is no reason.

to rethink how to serch is a good Point to go on
ID: 2044925 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Thomas Rackovan
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Apr 12
Posts: 3
Credit: 2,027,216
RAC: 5
United States
Message 2044942 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 12:11:30 UTC

Is SETI@Home done, or just for now? Joined Science United this morning, but liked the idea of SETI work.
ID: 2044942 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

Message boards : News : SETI@home and COVID-19


 
©2021 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.