What exactly does "credit screw" mean?

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Historian for the Defunct Riviera Hotel and Casino, Former Classic Seti@home user for Team Art Bell. Greetings from the High Desert!

What exactly does "credit screw" mean?

It's the term often used here at Seti for Credit New- which was a change in the way credit is awarded for work done which resulted in people getting a lot less Credit (a lot less) then they did before Credit New was brought in. AFAIK most other BOINC projects don't use it for that reason.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I still think the title of this thread is very misleading as there is no Seti@Home and COVID-19.

Finally I got a minirosetta_3.7 task on a Linux box running in Science United. Also a Rosetta@home on a Windows 10 PC, also in Science United.
Tullio

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The purpose of this thread (as I understand it) was to highlight that there are BOINC projects out there that are researching this virus, that Setizens might wish to consider after the 31st March.

No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures.

SETI@home will stop distributing tasks soon, but we encourage you to continue donate computing power to science research - in particular, research on the COVID-19 virus. The best way to do this is to join Science United and check the "Biology and Medicine" box.

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I am running two Rosetta@home tasks , one in Windows 10 and the other in the Tumbleweed development version of OpenSuSE Linux. I know very well that I won't get any credit, only a weekly mail of thanks sent by a BoincAdmin.
Tullio

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"No, the purpose was a little different... Advertise Science United not Boinc Projects... using the Covid-19 crisis as a propagand boy. Something highly questionable from the ethics point in some cultures."

I agree and really did not appreciate it.

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Dave

Many are finding Science United a duff idea. If you want to support a project helping Covid-19 try Folding at Home as many Setizens are, and have decided to do. Yes it is non-Boinc, so what?

Or just attach directly to Rosetta as Wiggo suggested.

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Grant
Darwin NT

One feature of Science United which I appreciate is the listing of CPU hours and GPU hours used by a project. One can immediately see which projects use GPUs and those which do not, also their relative weight in hours.
Tullio

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Meanwhile, people were asking why no results after 10 years, then 15 years, and finally almost 20 years. In 2017 DA wrote a report that said that Seti@home was simply an experiment, and like all experiments, it should have a beginning and an end, and a conclusion. His report said that after 18 years, they hadn't found anything, and were just collecting data and doing nothing with it. In his view the original experiment was over. DA proposed a project called Nebula which introduced a new back end, which would use the Atlas cluster at Hanover. However, 3 years later the software isn't ready despite help from Eric K.

The Admins can see that there is no point in continuing on as we are for another 20 years. We may have already found evidence of ET, but until we look in depth at the results, we won't know that. So three reasons for the mothballing, To look deeper at results already got, Lack of money, Lack of staff. It also could be said there are too many people using Seti as social media like Twitter or Facebook etc. We are supposed to be a scientific research program, not ranting about politics.

Remember an interview with someone from SETI years ago, might have been on The Guardian (but not sure), which included an estimate that something will be found in the first half of the 2020s, with hints coming at most a couple of years before the breakthrough, if it won't be completely sudden, so it seems like there was no expectation of a result earlier anyway. And that's entirely reasonable, and I'd call even this extremely optimistic.
As for what the project became for many, it is what it is, sometimes you should take a project where it goes instead of where it was "supposed" to be.

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That is exactly what I am going to do when one of my machines finishes the existing SETI work. My other machine will keep running SETI until April 1st.

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Sadly WCG doesn't make WU for covid-19...

Or just attach directly to Rosetta@home. ;-)

Cheers.

+1

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides.

Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there?

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

I will switch to rosetta@home the 1st of april, glad that new wu comes laten on seti@home.
In June i will celebrate 5 years of crunching for seti@home, it will not be the case.

Don't forget, there is already an over-arching Berkeley SETI Research Center, which includes SETI@Home but a whole lot more besides.

Thank you for the link. There aren't any other Distributed Computing projects hidden in there?

Depends whether you count Breakthrough Listen...

It's noticeable that the co-operation between BL and SaH has been terminated, for the time being at least - no more BLC tapes being added to the SSP. On one level, that makes sense - the purpose of the hibernation is to free up resources for the 20-year analysis, and we don't yet have 20 years of comparable BLC records. But on the other hand, I think it's on the record that the SaH algorithm provides the most sensitive signal processing of all the SETI projects. The others are more "never mind the quality, feel the width". It would be good to find a way of injecting the SaH signal processing technology into the other data sources, irrespective of whether it's done at the telescope, in the lab, or 'at home'.

been a cruncher on and off since 1999. Sorry to see its over.......that is all.

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