Boeing: Profits 1st, Safety 2nd? (Part 3)

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Message 2146331 - Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 10:40:52 UTC - in response to Message 2146330.  

engine bleed air, bypass air

engine bleed air is taken from within the engine compressor, between a pair of compressor stages and used to supply air to the cabin - it never enters the combustion stage of the engine, thus may be said to bypass it, but is never used to provide thrust. "True" bypass air is that which is pushed b the fan around the engine core, never being compressed and not used to supply the cabin, on a modern engine like the CFM56 family the majority of the engine thrust comes from this air.
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Message 2146333 - Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 10:53:48 UTC - in response to Message 2146331.  
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Indeed so...

But also note:

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Engine bearing seals are installed to ensure that critical engine bearings are continuously lubricated, and to prevent engine oil from leaking into the compressed air stream. Engine seals will leak a small amount of oil as a function of the seal design. This is known as the permissible oil leak rate.

... Oil leaks may be detected by an odour often called 'dirty socks', or, in more serious cases, by smoke in the cabin. This is known in the industry as a fume event.



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Message 2146338 - Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 12:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 2146333.  

The "good old" HS146 was infamous for this rather indelicate aroma that would percolate into the cabin shortly after take-off.
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Message 2146360 - Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 21:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 2146330.  

Both Airbus and Boeing moved to using electrically powered aircon, for much cleaner air, for their later aircraft.
As far as I know, it was just Boeing which abstained from using bleed air with the 787.

Airbus did not take the risk to replace a well-tried pneumatic system with an all-electric one for the A350. Boeing did, which later led to serious problems that delayed type certification and deliveries.
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Message 2146377 - Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 5:48:11 UTC

Undoubtedly Boeing's fault for not having full self flying beta.
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Message 2146381 - Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 9:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 2146377.  

Undoubtedly Boeing's fault for not having full self flying beta.
https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/476745

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Message 2146386 - Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 11:37:09 UTC

737 Max aren't equipped with roo bars in front of gears? That's willful negligence...
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Message 2147399 - Posted: 14 Mar 2025, 10:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 2147380.  

Not just Spirit AeroSystems Holdings, Inc. ... https://aviationa2z.com/index.php/2025/03/13/over-500-boeing-787-with-faulty-parts-cleared-audits/

Thanks for that...

Another ouch!

So... From my reading...

Fraudulently faulty parts made, tick-box certification with no physical checks, those parts used on over 477 of the the Boeing 787, possibly more to be found...

The fraudulent parts are used to hold the cabin floor in place and may well fail with a heavy landing...

... In ya go in through the passenger doors... Out ya come spaghettified out through the cargo door...


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Message 2147405 - Posted: 14 Mar 2025, 12:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 2147399.  

Fraudulently faulty parts made, tick-box certification with no physical checks
Isn't the fiduciary duty to the shareholder to make the most money ANY way wonderful?
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Message 2147408 - Posted: 14 Mar 2025, 14:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 2147405.  
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Fraudulently faulty parts made, tick-box certification with no physical checks
Isn't the fiduciary duty to the shareholder to make the most money ANY way wonderful?
The question is... Whose shareholders benefit from fraudulently faulty parts? Seems it's not Boeing's shareholders.

Believe the paperwork of certification...
[...] None of these audits included physical inspection of the floor fittings, which serve as structural elements in the aircraft.[...]
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Message 2147481 - Posted: 16 Mar 2025, 15:45:45 UTC
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Boeing lost trust of Americans, needs strict oversight, US official says
WASHINGTON/SEATTLE, March 14 (Reuters) - U.S. planemaker Boeing(BA.N) lost its way and also lost the trust of the American people after a January 2024 mid-air emergency involving a new Boeing 737 MAX and two fatal crashes in 2018 and 2019, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said Friday.

Duffy also said the Federal Aviation Administration is not yet ready to lift a 38-plane per month production cap on the 737 MAX.

"When you breach the trust of the American people with that safety and with your manufacturing, we're going to put the screws to you to make sure you change your ways and start doing things right," Duffy told Fox News Channel’s The Faulkner Focus after a visit on Thursday to the Boeing 737 factory in Renton, Washington. "They've lost trust."
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Message 2147661 - Posted: 21 Mar 2025, 22:19:17 UTC
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Boeing's Starliner future uncertain as NASA weighs next steps
Fix testing to stretch into the summer. When will aerospace giant decide enough is enough?

More than six months later, the future of Starliner is unclear. During the post-splashdown news conference for Crew-9, the manager of NASA's commercial crew program, Steve Stich, said that Boeing's new CEO, Kelly Ortberg, remained "committed to Starliner." However, longstanding problems dog the project.

Boeing has incurred enormous losses due to Starliner's difficulties. As of February's financial results, the company has bled over $2 billion, which is unlikely to stop until the spacecraft finally becomes operational.
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Thus there is a real chance that Boeing might throw in the towel in the coming months and extract itself from an increasingly expensive contract. Unlike with its Space Launch System work, the aerospace giant is on the hook for the ballooning Starliner costs.
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