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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Oooer... This is quite a "hum-dinger" from Maximus Aviation: Why Airbus NEEDS To Worry About Boeing's MAX And Dreamliner Fuselage Problems And A New Lawsuit... Is there more than Boeing at risk of being tarred and feathered over Boeing's latest 'incidents'? Fly safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And yet another 'loose screw': Unbelievable: Data From Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 Voice Recorder Was Wiped ... At what price are the lives of people? ... How far behind in safety can Boeing go?? Fly safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19272 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
And yet another 'loose screw': I've already reported that. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85359&postid=2130958#2130958 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36023 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Door plug inspections widen to include 737-900ER's. FAA recommends door plug inspections on other Boeing model after midair Alaska blowout. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration on Sunday recommended visual inspections of Boeing 737-900ER planes because the have similarities to the model involved in a Jan. 5 midair emergency on an Alaska Airlines flight. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30871 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Congress must force Boeing to be betterWait until SCOTUS decides the Chevron case and takes away the ability of the FAA to do any regulation! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
From many years ago... There was an expedient "in flight fix" to avoid the risk of a completely deadly decompression from 'inadvertently' losing the door on the Space Shuttle: What happens when an astronaut in orbit... The fix was duct tape and later, a padlock... Although the main contractor was Boeing, at least on this occasion the main aspect was "Human Factors". Careful consideration is needed for safety critical aspects... Fly safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36023 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Another hint that the greedy little leprechaun isn't planning on coming back to face the music. Former Qantas boss Alan Joyce resigns as chair of Sydney Theatre Company months after Palestine scarf row. And I'm pretty sure that the "scarf row" was just a convenient excuse. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19272 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Lucky this happened before take-off. Boeing 757 loses nose wheel while preparing for takeoff in Atlanta Reuters |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30871 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Delta mechanic fails to tighten nut holding tire rim onto axle. But in the press Boeing is responsible. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Delta mechanic fails to tighten nut holding tire rim onto axle. But in the press Boeing is responsible. ... Well... It is Boeing that writes the maintenance manuals and describe the checks that are required... Was that a deficiency in the procedures, or a failure to follow the procedures? And why/how the checks didn't catch the failure?... Note in this article: Nose wheel falls off Boeing 757 passenger jet awaiting takeoff wrote: ... With passenger concerns rising, Kayak, a leading online travel agent, has updated filters to allow customers to exclude flights that use Boeing’s troubled 737 Max planes... Fly safe folks? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This is a deadly scary Ouch!: Boeing's Quality Management Failure Explained 737-Max-9 Door 24 Jan 2024 ... And where else are there such deadly disconnects amidst the daily chaos of rush and rework... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Further details... A very deadly slippery slope: "Yes, We Have No Bolts" 9 Jan 737 Max-9 Update ... And indeed what else?... Hundreds of people have already needlessly died on this plane... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36023 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
No quality control for certain and likely too many foreman/supervisors suffering from what I use to call the "Missus disease" or "Idiot disease", they'd want you to drop tools on 1 job to do something else. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30871 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Delta mechanic fails to tighten nut holding tire rim onto axle. But in the press Boeing is responsible. Last 757 came off the production line in 2004. Are you trying to tell me that no tires have been replaced on any 757 since 1982 when it first entered service, when that service manual was written? Or could it be every other person was proficient in English, but his guy it wasn't his first language? Perhaps someone needs to tell you that A&P mechanics both do the work and sign the logbook that the work was done. Same person. No double check. But that is only after the plane leaves the factory. Now some things do require an IA, but if the A&P also holds an IA, again single person signs off the work. Perhaps you should rail against the FAA. But don't worry the Chevron cases in front of SCOTUS will dissolve the FAA and there will be no regulation of airlines or airplanes. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/467/837/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/10/justices-grant-four-new-cases-including-chevron-companion-case/ |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20801 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Boeing write the procedures to be followed:
See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 997 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
I searched briefly: Incident: Mesa CRJ9 at Denver on Nov 20th 2023, arrived without nose tyre Incident: Swift B733 at Dayton on Mar 17th 2022, dropped tyre on departure I think there's nothing special to landing gears and tyres of Boeing aircraft compared to any other commercial aircraft. Such events are caused by negligent maintenance or maybe bad luck. Gary already said it: Boeing deserves criticism for what goes wrong in the design and manufacturing of their aircraft. But airlines (and negligent authorities) are often responsible for operational problems. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 997 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Can anyone explain in a sentence or two what the significance of the "Chevron cases" before the SCOTUS is in relation to FAA's authority to regulate aviation? Or a helpful URL? For continental Europeans the American/British legal system (case law) is an inscrutable tangle of old judgments which are endlessly linked, intertwined, scrambled..., compared to our (in theory) "crystal-clear" legal texts based on Roman or French traditions. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 997 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
... With passenger concerns rising, Kayak, a leading online travel agent, has updated filters to allow customers to exclude flights that use Boeing’s troubled 737 Max planes...Uuuhh... I think this won't work for the major airlines with large 737 fleets like e.g. United Airlines. If you have a domestic or continental flight with e.g. Lufthansa the ticket always states: "A320series". Depending on the booked passengers and the current check-in status, the airline decides at short notice to take a larger A321, a newer A320neo or a smaller A319 departing at their main hubs. Often I got a notice only two or three hours before departure on changed gate and aircraft type for domestic connections in Germany. I also had it with British Airways in Heathrow... Why else would airlines force Boeing to maintain the previous 737 generation's type rating for the Max? You only need that for the flexible mixed operation of the 737 NG and Max with the same pool of pilots. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30871 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Can anyone explain in a sentence or two what the significance of the "Chevron cases" before the SCOTUS is in relation to FAA's authority to regulate aviation? Or a helpful URL? For continental Europeans the American/British legal system (case law) is an inscrutable tangle of old judgments which are endlessly linked, intertwined, scrambled..., compared to our (in theory) "crystal-clear" legal texts based on Roman or French traditions. The cases that SCOTUS took seek to overturn the ability of federal agencies, experts, to write regulation and seek to force congress, buffoons, to write the regulations. Essentially they seek to remove the Code of Federal Regulations. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. The Chevron case says courts shall defer to the judgement of the experts in the federal agency where there is ambiguity in something congress wrote. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19272 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Or could it be every other person was proficient in English, but his guy it wasn't his first language? Aircraft documentation is always written to the standards to remove ambiguities that may occur when used by people who's first language is not English. ATA 100 is a good starting point, although this has been superseded since 2015, |
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