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![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 15953 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
This is quite a debacle of Boeing profits and politics vs good modern design and safety: Maximus - Chairman Says NO To Max-10 Certification Extension Raising Real Risk The Program Could Be Shut Down wrote: Chairman Peter DeFazio says he is voting "no" to a Boeing [737] Max-10 certification extension. So what does this mean for the future of the program? In my biggest Max video yet I will explain everything you need to know about the Max 10 and why the certification of Boeing's largest 737 has become Boeing's most recent headache. Note especially the comments about modern day cockpit design and safety, and how the old yet still being made Boeing aircraft simply do not have that modern day safety in the cockpit... How can that be?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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How can that be?...Same way everything out of Textron is legacy. Hint the answer is three letters and one of them is repeated. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17448 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Boeing set to move headquarters to Arlington, Virginia, sources say WASHINGTON/SEATTLE, May 5 (Reuters) - U.S. planemaker Boeing Co (BA.N) is set to move its corporate headquarters from Chicago to Arlington, Virginia, two people familiar with the matter said. All cynical comments welcome. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14472 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Not too close, I hope. You don't want the boardroom heavies close to the regulators: you want the designers, engineers and builders under close scrutiny, for the next few decades at least. |
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da MORE PROFITs a Business Has - dA MORE SAFETY can be Implemented. LOSING Money aka Less or NO PROFITs - Will NOT Pay fo da SAFETY Measures. SUPERYap ![]() May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17448 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
da MORE PROFITs a Business Has -dA MORE SAFETY can be paid in bonuses and to the share holders. The accountants will tell you spending a billion or so, on more safety is a waste of money, when the cost of insuring to cover the costs of the few accidents, is only a few million/year. |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 2521 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Boeing set to move headquarters to Arlington, Virginia, sources say Don't know why was not done in the first place some years back when they wanted Corp HQ out of Seattle area. Chi-Town costs for rent, talent, etc much higher than Arlington VA. |
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Yeah Baby!!!!! Arlington, VA. Where I was Born Baby!!!! Stay Safe Baby!!!!!! Make Profits Baby!!!! SUPERYap ![]() May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 29141 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
da MORE PROFITs a Business Has -dA MORE SAFETY can be paid in bonuses and to the share holders. BINGO - Ford Pinto gas tanks. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17448 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US report WSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit |
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China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US reportWSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit CFIT. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85359&postid=2096309#2096309 |
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Yes, and sadly having actual footage of that crash really left it beyond doubt that it was a controlled dive overriding both aerodynamic principles and electronic fail safes. :-(China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US reportWSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 15953 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
The sorry (deadly?) saga of Boeing continues: (All just my own uneducated personal viewpoint as always...) Boeing is losing the plane race. So it packed up and left for Washington wrote: Boeing is moving its headquarters from Chicago to a suburb of Washington, DC. But some analysts think this move is one in the wrong direction. Boeing unveils new safety plan that sharpens focus and culture wrote: Boeing has published its 2022 Chief Aerospace Safety Officer Report which reveals a host of major changes to sharpen focus and improve culture... FAA finds Boeing 787 certification documents wrote: Deliveries of the 787 have been halted for a year as Boeing addressed inspections and repairs in an industrial headache expected to cost $5.5 billion... FAA plans tighter reins than normal on Boeing wrote: The manufacturer this week was denied a standard request for a new, five-year period for self-regulation by the FAA, with the regulator instead opting to delegate that authority for only three years. Boeing clashes with key supplier ahead of Starliner spacecraft launch wrote: ... at odds over the cause of a problem involving fuel valves in the Starliner propulsion system that forced a postponement of a test flight last July, with the two companies faulting one another... Boeing's Starliner encounters propulsion problems on way to ISS wrote: ... Boeing's Starliner capsule was heading for the International Space Station Thursday, in a critical uncrewed test flight that followed years of failures and false starts... Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft lands in New Mexico after successful test flight wrote: Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft parachuted to a “picture perfect” landing in southern New Mexico Wednesday, capping a six-day test flight to the International Space Station... What's next for Boeing's Starliner capsule after historic space station mission? wrote: Starliner could fly astronauts for the first time later this year... Are NASA and Boeing getting overconfident about Starliner? wrote: Yesterday, Boeing gave Starliner a score of 15 out of a possible 10! Was the test flight really this good? Or is this the kind of hubris that we saw at NASA just prior to the Challenger disaster... NASA to buy 5 more astronaut missions from SpaceX wrote: ... Assuming the newly purchased five flights continue in sequence after Crew-9, the contract modification would bring SpaceX through mission Crew-14... Boeing stock sinks to new 52-week low after latest string of depressing news wrote: Boeing (NYSE:BA) closed -4.8% in Thursday's trading, touching a new two-year intraday low of $120.28, and shares have shed 26% since the company's big Q1 earnings miss on April 27, when it also said it would pause production of the 777X at least through 2023. What do you believe? Will this unnecessarily risk the death/killing of yet more people for the sake of deadly greedy corporate (and directors' personal) profit? Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 20762 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Having been involved at the sharp end pf the compliance industry.... It is not uncommon for early issues of so called compliance demonstration documents to be both inadeqiate and incomplete. Why do I say both? Incomplete means they don't cover all the required clauses of the standards. Inadaequate means that the responses to clauses does not clearly and unequivocally demonsttate compliance with one or more clauses of a given stamdard. It's no good saying "We comply" without the appropriate demonstration of compliance. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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Is this the lawsuit that will eventually force the Boeing 'accountants' to reassess the price of a life? A New Six BILLION Dollar Suit Has Be Filed Against Boeing By Family Members Of A Lion Air Passenger wrote: ... This suit also [personally] names former CEO Dennis Muilenburg along with present Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun and former Chief Test Pilot Mark Forkner. Also for quite an eye-opener:
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